Time to purge the undead filth from Lordaeron

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 10633 points ยท Posted at 14:37:07 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)


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QuiksLE ยท 1257 points ยท Posted at 14:37:41 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

that ashbringer

Mr_Jekyll_Dr_Hyde ยท 739 points ยท Posted at 15:41:35 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Ashfinger

TrippyWentLucio ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 16:28:18 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The Ash Flinging Finger

Cococarmel ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 16:48:40 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The ash finger flinger?

The_Rick_Sanchez ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 16:40:08 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The sash wringing... the trash thinging... mash flinging... the flash springing, bringing the the crash thinging the...

Lupinthrope ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:07:08 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

...Yes, the Ash Flinging Finger..

i_love_you_shinobu ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 15:46:51 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
slashoom ยท -28 points ยท Posted at 18:06:45 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

that quick lip lick at the end is so cringe

xXWaspXx ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:24:45 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

that quick lip lick at the end is so cringe beautiful

ftfy

RemtonJDulyak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:19:56 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You are such an asshole, how you dare write such things?

BEAUTIFUL IS NOT A BIG ENOUGH WORD FOR IT!!!

that quick lip lick at the end is so such cringe beautiful awesomely awesome awesomeness

i_love_you_shinobu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:58 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

..??

slashoom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:45 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

do u not see it?

rugology ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:19 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

does that word even mean anything anymore

Mekaista ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:40:23 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TheGayslamicQueeran ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:22:53 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That man can fing my ash any day of the week! And twice on ash wednesday!

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:15:44 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Assfinger

aidsmann ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 16:11:52 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

we've reached peak meme levels towards the end of this content drought.

Raesong ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 18:55:13 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And the last raid isn't even out yet.

0verstim ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:27:30 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

End? I play for the PvE, Iโ€™m still working my way through the Suramar quest line.

Warlordsandpresident ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:21 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I don't like the city :(

JFuriousJones ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 15:48:11 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The ash slinging slasher

FryingPanHero ยท 124 points ยท Posted at 17:12:31 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

[Genn]: Years ago at this very city, the Ash Bringing Slasher used to be a Paladin just like you... only sexier! And then, one day, when he was cutting the undead, it happened...

[Anduin]: He forgot to rebuff himself?

[Genn]: No.

[Anduin]: He didn't recast Seal of Vengeance?

[Genn]: No.

[Anduin]: Irregular DPS?

[Genn]: NO! He killed the King on purpose!

[Anduin]: You mean like this? (Shows flashback of Varian being killed by Gul'dan)

[Genn]: Yes, except he wasn't disenchanted like your father.

[Anduin]: So?

[Genn]: SO HE WASN'T A MEME!

[Anduin]: OH NO!!!

fffogolin ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 18:39:06 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Anduin isn't a paladin!! He's just, you know. Swordcurious.

RemtonJDulyak ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 19:21:29 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Swordcurious.

This word seems to be hiding serious sexual implications...

Blame_the_ninja ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 21:43:00 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You know. Because of the implications.

3and4-fifthsKitsune ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:49:26 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

What, like Hilting?

Blame_the_ninja ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:15:02 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
vandy17 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:00:42 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

"Are you gonna hurt those girls?"

Love Mack

OmegamattReally ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:47:45 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Leave it in the scabbard.

Lupinthrope ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:06:26 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

"I feel like you don't know what that word means"

BiomassDenial ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:10:40 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Him and Wrathion are set to "It's Complicated" on AllianceBook.

Shamerida ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:37 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Anduin would never touch someone like Wrathion, he's pure.

dreamfisher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:15 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, he can only be with someone as pure as him: Turalyon.

Locally_Grown_Egg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:38 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I don't care what Ion says, Anduin is a paladin.

TehSlippy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:14:09 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Anduin is a priest... don't you play Hearthstone?

Locally_Grown_Egg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:31:34 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And Garrosh is alive. Hearthstone is irrelevant here.

Iridachroma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:32 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, that spell looked more like a Power Word: Barrier than anything else.

Locally_Grown_Egg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:43 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

What?

Iridachroma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:22 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I was referring to the heal he cast in the cinematic.

Piffinatour ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:24:46 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

!redditsilver

Sprickels ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:40:47 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Seal of Vengeance isn't even a thing anymore

Lunux ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:13:03 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

*Ash bringing slasher

8bitHandyman ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:53:05 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

*Ass bringing smasher

0hwowitsme ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:06:09 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Ashy slashy?

aquadamn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:13:33 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Sassbringer

Rabid-Hyena ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:04:25 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I spent days of online time trying to find that fucking sword after blue mentioned that it was in game.

nater255 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:57:15 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

So did I... and I got it. Roar.

wastakenanyways ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:12:49 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Assbringer

___Not_The_NSA___ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:47:13 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PullingInV ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:26:54 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

lol ikr

Strepitoso ยท 147 points ยท Posted at 17:21:10 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
leva549 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:48:39 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I AM MY BONEY ELBOWS

FacePunsch ยท 242 points ยท Posted at 14:49:58 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Where can I get that Ashbringer appearance in-game?

Leucifer ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 16:54:00 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

First, sell your soul to RNG'sus.

Second..... I hope you enjoy fishing.

StormclawsEuw ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 17:12:52 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Only needed around 700 trys. The waiting for the mop spawn was more brutal.

zgh5002 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:00:59 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Hold up. There's a skin where the floaty shit on the sword giving the bird?

RemtonJDulyak ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 19:25:00 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, but you unlock it only if you manage to not get perma-banned after logging 20 tickets, and always telling the GM to fuck off.

Matazaonreddit ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:35:16 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

No, but there is the secret deathbringer skin in black/green with a skull emblem. That includes one of the most tedious quest line of the secret appearances.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:45:35 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

They actually nerfed a great deal of it. It took me like six tries to fish the piece up, for example. I'm not sure whether they did anything about that annoying Large Vile Slime's spawn timer, though.

rogueypiesladyhuman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:16:48 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

They did. I've seen the slime twice in the last week while I spent hours previously with no luck.

Leucifer ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:35:25 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

/shudder

roerd ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:38:59 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Neither is a problem anymore. The mob is up basically always now, and the drop rate from fishing has been drastically increased.

StormclawsEuw ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:50:33 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I dont know didnt play since argus and got the weapon since EN. Waited 12 hours for it to spawn.

Tekens ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:03:23 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I saved all the fish, ended up with about 600 of fishies in my bags and one shiny dark orb.

anonymousssss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:35 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Right, because nothing requires work these days. Bliz just gives you whatever you want.

Arnesian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:30 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Over 1500 tryโ€™s for me. Where as I found a group for the mob spawn after 5 mind of check custom groups.

Visualz66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:30 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, I had heard people were taking 500-1000 casts and like 2-4 days to get that crystal. On day one of the hidden skins being obtainable, it took me a grand total of 30 minutes, and 11 total casts to get the skin.

Zaseishinrui ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:43 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

i flew there and the mob was up, and then i got the cast in like 2 tries

TheBaconAbyss ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:02:41 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

RNG'sus is the best priest name ever

Gho1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:08:15 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Kill 2 million goblins or gnomes

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:34:33 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

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Onagda ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:27:35 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

A boar is worth 1/37th of a gnome or goblin, but you need exactly 2 million, not a single gnome/goblin more OR short, so you need to kill the boars in groups of 37 or else you overshoot it.

TheMentelgen ยท 147 points ยท Posted at 16:08:41 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Knock knock.

who's there?

THE CRUSADE!

praeteria ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 17:25:30 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Nobody expects the silver hand crusade.

leva549 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:56:19 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The Argent Ashen Silver Dawn Verdict Hand Crusade.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:12:53 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You forgot a Scarlet in there somewhere.

StopEnjoyingThings ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:40:34 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

LUX VULT

Grim_Onyxheart ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 15:08:03 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Looks like his jaw dropped off in shock

HawaiianShirtMan ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 15:58:41 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That reminds me of this scene from Azerothian Super Villains.

stagfury ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:24:32 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god I feel young again.

Patzzer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:46:16 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

hahahahahaha

s133zy ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 15:01:27 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Heres the Highlord!

The silver hand flipping people off is the best thing ever haha!

Mendusr89 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:55:47 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Omg hahahhaha

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 248 points ยท Posted at 14:46:05 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Credit to /u/Rehbero for making this first.

Rehbero ยท 169 points ยท Posted at 15:08:36 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Oh hey, someone took my shitty edit and made a proper meme out of it, respect my man

And I should say, I edited this, admittedly im unsure as to the original source

___Not_The_NSA___ ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 15:47:49 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blubbey ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:55:46 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

raw sauce

Floofsy ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 15:17:53 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Grand strategy game "Crusader Kings" popularised the Deus Vult meme in 2012, you see the Deus Vult stuff pretty commonly on Paradox subs and gsg though its become more common outside of that niche area since 2015.

Mage505 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 15:34:38 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Correct, and just in case people don't know the original reference (lots of people are young on this sub). It's from a Movie called "The Shining". Based off of a Steven King Novel and directed by Stanley Kubrick, which was the 70's version of Aronofsky.

Now watch cinephiles rip me a new one over comparing Kubrick to Aronofsky

giolort ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:00:29 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

To further expand the movie is amazing and you should watch it

Blubbey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:56:44 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Not nearly as scary as its reputation suggests either but it is a tad creepy at times

WhyLater ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:44:20 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Now watch cinephiles rip me a new one over comparing Kubrick to Aronofsky

I raised a skeptical eyebrow at the comparison, but your lampshade makes it a fun endeavor.

Syteless ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:16 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I had just assumed Deus Vult was a For Honor meme. I saw it get used excessively in relation to it.

BenedickCabbagepatch ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:37 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Nah it's an alt-right hateful slogan. It's as horrifying as Pepe the Frog.

Floofsy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:31 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

As I said, its become popular outside of that niche area since 2015.

One of the popularised uses for it is indeed anti-muslim, but that is not the origin of the meme. You may well have first encountered it in this form, but rest assured the Deus Vult memes have been kicking around for years prior to that.

Sawgon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:57 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Delete yourself

BenedickCabbagepatch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:51 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Macro-aggression! Mods! MODS!

Secret_Wizard ยท 383 points ยท Posted at 15:10:52 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The subtle change to the hand symbol on the Ashbringer makes this.

Orleanian ยท 192 points ยท Posted at 17:28:05 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

subtle

Right

TalenPhillips ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 19:13:18 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Right

It's a left hand, actually.

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:05:19 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Subtle?

Patzzer ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 15:45:47 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I know right?! It had me laughing so bad

[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:14:05 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

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FleurDeMur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:38 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

What?

shabadabadabada ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:59:20 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

About as subtle as an ASHBRINGER TO THE FACE

Jpzett ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:26:16 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair

JWarblerMadman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:04:56 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Per se

Tyragon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:33 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's the Fubringer!

AngerFork ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 16:03:08 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Heeeerreโ€™s Pally!!

[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 15:53:45 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My only regret is not knowing how better to contribute to this discussion.

Promanguy ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 14:41:57 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The madman actually did it

Tennate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:20:50 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

T H E M A D M A N

newsonofvader ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:39:39 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The light will forge you a new one.

BiteSizeRudy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:08:45 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I saw that post here before I did the cutscene/quest. I could not stop laughing at what otherwise would have been a serious scene.

Sage_of_the_6_paths ยท 376 points ยท Posted at 15:26:00 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, a non-pro Sylvanas post? Where am I?

MachoCat ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 15:54:36 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's just a matter of time before someone edits Sylvanas face on top of this.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 153 points ยท Posted at 15:29:22 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Someone just needs to replace this with a torch poking through the door, Tyrande cowering in fear, and Sylvanas on the other side.

mitchmike14 ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 15:36:28 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Or Nomiโ€™s face and a burnt drumstick poking through.

[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:26:33 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

"Heeeeeere's Nomi!" has a better ring to it too, fits in with the original source.

Sage_of_the_6_paths ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 15:32:55 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've seen enough Sylvanas these past few weeks to last a life time. I'm good.

PocoConejito ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:54:31 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Slicing a door with a torch.

Wut?

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:07:30 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

During some world quests, my Monk can punch portals closed with his fists. I'm not about to question the logistics of destroying means of egress with impractical tools.

Agys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:17:52 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Tyrande would wreck Sylvanas, tho

no_more_can ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:33:33 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Make Lordaeron great again!

Bonty48 ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 18:57:43 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Where are pro-Sylvanas posts? All talk about Sylvanas is either alliance fanboys hating her or people editing her cinematic.

Sage_of_the_6_paths ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:18:51 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

She's like every other post man. All the edits, all the discussion posts about how she couldn't POSSIBLY burn down the tree, all the pictures of people's Sylvanas statues. It's been Sylvanas central since Blizzcon. During Blizzcon one of the highest posts was just a picture of her, and the post was titled "I'm...I'm just proud of our queen..."

Zezin96 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:11:43 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The middle finger on the Ashbringer adds so much.

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:11:26 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Been waiting for this a long time.

PureReiter ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 15:15:54 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

DEUS VULT

moonlight_ricotta ยท 129 points ยท Posted at 16:33:42 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flownyte ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 18:43:58 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

filthysewerdweller

That hit a littler harder than I thought it would.

Dreaming_Desires ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 16:59:36 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Paladin top dps? I wish ๐Ÿ˜ข

omnomcookiez ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 17:32:03 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Perhaps Blizz will release a Wrath of the Lich King server and you can live your dream.

GrumpySarlacc ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 18:22:45 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My life peaked in 3.3.5a as a Ret Pally. I was a literal god. 30% crit, instant heals on crit procs, mana glyph and judgement of Wisdom meant I had the highest DPS in the party while healing myself endlessly and never running out of mana. I tanked as Ret it was insane.

Edit: oh yeah and I moved 16% faster than everyone at all times, I was inescapable.

ActiveNL ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:15:35 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Ahh, good old Deus Vulting day's.

Shrek1982 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:58:24 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

don't forget bonus dmg to undead with some spells

[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:44:56 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Meme appeared before they nerfed Crusade.
If you were lucky enough to get prenerfed cloak + Belt.
You would indeed be topdps at the end of Crusade.

Visualz66 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:28:25 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also during Dragon Souls days, Censure bug + Gurthalak Voice of the "Deeps" + Dragon Aspect Buffs = Bannable exploit DPS. I did it a few times by accident before it was identified in both 2s and on Madness, Ret was doing an easy 75% of all dmg during that encounter.

xinxy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:42:33 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

When they release HOLY TEMPLAR spec, sure.

ifeanychukwu ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:22:13 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I see people meme about the "wheelchair" spec all the time but paladins have been doing fine all expansion. They may be meh outside of their cooldowns but not terrible and their survivability is crazy. You pretty much have to actively be trying to die as ret.

iyaerP ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:27:03 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Lower middle of the pack when ret is our only dps spec is not "fine".

RevengeV ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:36:42 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Considering were not pulling shadow priest or survival hunter numbers, I'd say yes were fine compared to some specs. Some of our talents desperately need a rework but were nowhere near the wheelchair meme people like to throw around.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:01:33 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

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TequilaWhiskey ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:34:06 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

AD MORTEM INIMICUS!!

Cuillin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:18:34 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Ew lawbringer go away.

Flexappeal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:24 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

โ€come on, I know you wanna retake the holy landโ€

KretzPC ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 15:23:34 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

DISMANTLE

ApatheticBeardo ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 15:47:06 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

THE

KretzPC ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 16:10:42 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

HORDE

Vorcion_ ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 18:19:56 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ThreeSevenFiveMe ยท -29 points ยท Posted at 15:53:00 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

KANGZZZ

[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 16:00:08 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

come again lad

Tsobaphomet ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:57:12 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder how they will get rid of every single artifact weapon. I certainly hope they won't all just get destroyed. Hopefully passed down to several NPCs who will actually exist in the world and will actively wield the artifact weapons

proffesordaddy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:58:56 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I hope not, can you imagine just giving up the most powerful weapons in the world to npcs, I hope they get the Indiana Jones treatment and get put in a museum

no_more_can ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:13:47 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

They could also make it so the final fight exhausts the power of the artifacts. At that point, they become a symbol of victory, but not of much use to a champion. They then become enshrined in the class halls. Or a building in each faction's capital that only phases in after level 110. They could even go so far as to have the artifacts split among each race to showcase that races affinity to a class and/or spec.

proffesordaddy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:17:19 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™d imagine theyโ€™d just give the fire mage artifact back to the sindorei. But I like this idea a lot actually

longoverdue83 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:10 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah once you do aggravate it becomes exhausted

Why doesnโ€™t anyone want to do the final raid?!? ๐Ÿคฃ

Luvas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:18:49 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And I'd like to know if we can even enter 110 content in BfA if we don't do Legion. If I can skip getting my artifact, then I can still buy this guy's cool shit.

moopimoop ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:06:31 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Was not expecting that. Haha 10/10

Erik_Von_Whiteeyes ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 15:09:01 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

UC is my favorite horde city.. I play only undead.

I am going to be so fucking sad :(

[deleted] ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 15:26:14 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Would you feel better if we put some rubble and green goo in ogrimmar and put some skulls on the spikes?

Erik_Von_Whiteeyes ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:11:26 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yes please!

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:17:37 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Ok, let me go get some human skulls

narok_kurai ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:41:41 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Careful, they've only got about a 1/3rd drop rate! I guess all the inbreeding to keep the population up finally caught up with them.

yingkaixing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:48 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Orc or tauren skulls would be fine.

hhhnnnnnggggggg ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:28:42 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

What is the green goo anyway?

nuggets456 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:25:50 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:31:14 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Well we are in the sewers, I imagine the green is just normal sewer stuff and waste from all the plague experiments.

juel1979 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:24 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I always thought embalming ichor, since Forsaken used to bleed green, IIRC.

hhhnnnnnggggggg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:43:32 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, that's what I was thinking

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 15:25:23 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If it makes you feel any better, UC is only captured/destroyed by the Alliance from 110-120. The leveling experience will still include UC as a Horde hub.

lonelyboyisme ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:23:22 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Awwww, lame, I was hoping they'd use this chance to re-design all these areas from lvl 1 up. That's actually kind of disappointing.

narok_kurai ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:43:37 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I dunno, Lordaeron is a pretty awesome place to level through, and you even get some quality 1-on-1 time with your Queen.

bpostal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:46:56 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

get some quality 1-on-1 time with your Queen

THAT is how you sell a subscription to a lapsed player.

lonelyboyisme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:20:03 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Oh for sure, but I was really hoping they'd change it up, like someone else said, to level as an undead in the smoldering remains of Teldrassil, or to finish cleansing the undead menace from the still-bleeding battlefield of Lorderon.

I'm a big fan of the plaguelands-silverpine areas, love just playing around with low level undeds

BioDefault ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:08 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

For real, I was looking forward to a leveling up in Teldrassil as an Undead.

lonelyboyisme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:20:54 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck yeah, running through the ashes, taking care of elves that lagged behind the rest, picking off alliance ships as they flee. I'd be down 100%.

I mean, the original undead starter zones are cool enough, but still.

ironudder ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:57:42 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My biggest concern: what about our Zeppelins :c

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:04:59 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to assume that the zeppelins will work as normal during leveling, but at upper levels the zep will either be removed via phasing or will take you to a different location. My guess is that it will be a different location near Lordaeron because they still want that region to be accessible (and likewise for Alliance ships to Kalimdor). The Horde presence in Eastern Kingdoms isn't gone, just greatly diminished. There is is still stuff to do for Horde in EK, so I assume we can still use the zep to get there.

Erik_Von_Whiteeyes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:50 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Oh shit that's awesome!

WhyLater ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:55:20 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And, if I was a betting man, I'd wager that the occupation of Undercity/destruction of Teldrassil won't be permanent.

Leucifer ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:05:59 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'd wager that the occupation of Undercity/destruction of Teldrassil won't be permanent.

Um..... one is a hell of a lot more permanent than the other.

WhyLater ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:25:25 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Dude, this is Warcraft. A world tree can bounce back from being on fire. Wisp magic or some such.

Leucifer ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:28:29 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Tree comes back as a raid boss.....

"BURNING ME WAS ONLY A SETBACK!!!!"

Clavactis ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:42:56 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It would give an excellent excuse to update these cities next expac...

guitarburst05 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:51 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

With the addition of the classic servers, I assumed it would be a chance for them to make more lasting changes to the overworld. That's a shame.

Nemioni ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:28:38 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Same, I would miss that great ambient music

They'll have to conquer UC over my dead body (literally)

juel1979 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:43:05 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'll be going back to my garrison for the nostalgia factor.

Metalmatt2891 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:31:41 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

At least your capital city won't be burnt to the ground...

offlightsedge ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:21:50 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't the Alliance originally abandon Lordaeron? Why want it back all of a sudden? Poor undead have't suffered enough, I guess.

Luvas ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:16:42 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Like most of the actions by both Factions since the death of Arthas, the motivation is the mere opportunity to give a middle finger to the other side.

CI_Iconoclast ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:04:47 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

why even bother with lordearon when stratholm is ripe for the rebuilding, I mean lights hope has been properly repopulated and it'd be a pretty big boon to have the headquarters of ALL the paladins right at your doorstep.

juel1979 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:46 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I walked around in a daze all the weekend of Blizzcon (at home, though).

I try not to think about it too hard. What is my life? Heh

Mike737 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:32:43 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Come home to WoW Classic

jp_courier ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:48:01 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

DID SOMEBODY ORDER... JUSTICE!?

OzyOzbourne ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 15:30:31 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

breath deeply

DEUS VULT!!!!

kaltsone ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:01:00 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, you can have it.

whitebreadsandwich ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:46:24 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS

KingStoph ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:16:10 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

ALL HORDE AND NO BLUES MAKES JACK A DULL BOY

OfficeBrowser_ ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:58:28 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

๐Ÿ‘Œ Certified Dank

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:02:56 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Not Garithos, resurrected.

Zephyronno ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:48:13 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

HEEEEERRES PALLY!

sigillumdei ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:01:53 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have to admit the first time a friend showed me what happens when you weird that sword in Scarlett Hold or whatever I needed out a little.

arkindal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:30:59 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

What happens?

sigillumdei ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:44:43 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
arkindal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:22:36 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks, I'll watch it when I can, I appreciate you picking the video for me.

WanderingKing ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:15:17 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Jokes aside....where will the Forsaken be moving to when it falls?

Flownyte ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:44:15 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The dustbin.

WolfShaman ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:17:00 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Into Jaina's ego. Enough room there for the entire Horde.

leva549 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:46:35 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Orgrimmar's sewers. (Does it have sewers?)

KingSpooki ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:55:00 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you :) bout time we see some love for the Alliance :)

IGdoesitbest ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:31:50 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Iiiiiiiiiitss arthas!!

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:34:20 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Here's JOHNNY!

-Perimeter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:44:45 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Here's Pally!

hery41 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:36:40 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is how you reply to memes about your faction. With a meme about the other faction, not with 300 butthurt comments.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:07:12 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And it only took a meme made by someone who only plays Horde characters to do it.

Reimos_Drevon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:33:41 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The culling everyone wants.

Felinomancy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:30:29 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Dude, they prefer the term vitally-challenged.

And "purge" is such a harsh term. I prefer to put them to a well-deserved, eternal rest.

no_more_can ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:20:08 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly. The alliance are just trying to right the world after what Arthas did. Part of that is ending the scourge problem. It's less a purge, more making things right.

Felinomancy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:24:00 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I say this with sadness: to kill a Forsaken is no murder. At its very worst, it is an act of mercy.

AbyssalKultist ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:07:49 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Am Undead and still enjoyed. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ–•

Aldiirk ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 16:05:43 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Am Orc.

It's OK, you can slaughter the creepy zombies and burn their disgusting city. Please kill our emo queen while you're at it, so we can get a badass like Saurfang, Thrall, or Baine as Warchief.

Gonji89 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:26:30 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I say give Blaine a chance.

Edit: Goddamn iphone autocorrect.

ginfish ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:00:58 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah he's a pretty good magician. He will dazzle everyone with his tricks.

carpesangrea ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:18:51 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I remember an episode of Supernatural where they had this asshole named "Chris Angel"...the whole thing pretty much making fun of David Blaine.

SociopathicShark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:53:08 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

They're not tricks, they're illusions. Tricks are what whores do for money.

Loki_the_Poisoner ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:13:57 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Bad meatshield. Get back on the front line! Ignore the green smoke and goo.

Cydanix ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:22:05 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm gonna guess Gallywix is next because shit's and giggles.

Luvas ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:21:59 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Real talk, if the WoW-Donald got the boot somehow, and we got Gazlowe instead as the Goblin Racial Leader, then it would be the best trade in the history of trades, forever,

Hitchy92 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:04:56 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I don't even know how he became faction leader considering the goblin starting zone involves you fighting against him with Thrall.

strike089 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:16:57 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

No thrall please. Having green Jesus as warchief for vanilla and 2 expansions was more than enough.

carpesangrea ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:21:29 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thrall isn't an option. Out of those 3 it would be either Baine or Saurfang. Personally I'd like to see Baine with a solid story arc, but given the upcoming story direction of returning to the old conflict, it's more likely we'd get Saurfang(admittedly he's a pretty solid choice).

Bedlam10 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:36 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This guy gets it.

Slammybutt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:10:27 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If Blizz couldn't make a story out of Vol'jin what the fuck do you think they can do with someone like Baine or Thrall.

Ishmael_Euler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:13:40 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You can take whiny thrall and useless baine and live in the undercity with all the other alliance pansies!

xzarion2112 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:44:06 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You sound just as bad as that Alliance scum.

shamanProgrammer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:42:45 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Baine is a basic bitch. He couldn't even take out a troop of centaurs.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:02:35 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It took a coward's poison and the fury of Hellscream to bring my father down. WHAT CHANCE HAVE YOU?

DrewZee-DC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:10:45 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Baine for Warchief 2018!

Jenks44 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:24:21 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

YES! There aren't many of us, but Horde players still exist! (no, zombies and elves, not you)

kajeslorian ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:10:32 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Your Horde sounds a little.. Orcish.. to me..

enoughdakka ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:01:45 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

As about the only person I've seen around here who has been calling for going full DEUS VULT on lordaeron for months now, seeing this stuff now is great

sea_dot_bass ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:45:10 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Username definitely doesn't check out!

NOT ENUFF DAKKA YA GIT!

enoughdakka ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:44:32 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sea_dot_bass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:10 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

or At least almost....

:) love TTSD

RemusWins ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:16:37 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Heeeeere's Ashy!

DeepFriedHooker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:45:01 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yaaas

JNH1225 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:46:40 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I play a human retpally, can confirm we all feel like this

drfarren ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:27:59 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

FOR LORDAERON!

I hope the alliance gets Lordaeron back. I enjoy a little RP and in my main's lore he lost his wife and children to the plague when it swept through Andorhal while he was away, trading goods.

Also, I would hope that if the aliance does take the kingdom back, it would have a cutscene that opens just like Arthas' return in WC3, but with Calia Menethil walking the ruined streets then taking her place on the old, ruined throne where the King was slain. Kinda like a resolution to the fall of the kingdom.

holysmoke532 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:19:55 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Calia doesn't want it.

For a start 'it's just Calia now'

Though apparently any references to her declaring the kingdom lost and renouncing the throne were removed from legion in beta so who knows.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:01 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to guess a strategic marriage between her and Anduin. They're also both priests (Anduin a little less so these days, though).

D_A_BERONI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:38 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

She's likely older than Jaina, as during the creation of the original Alliance she was old enough to be engaged to Deathwing.

allrightletsdothis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:51:32 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That middle finger is just icing on the cake, fantastic.

Retr0z ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:33:51 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

this is the best picture I've ever seen

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:54:36 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This has to be the funniest post Iโ€™ve ever fucking seen. Whoever made this is the best person in the universe

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:06:04 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

...Thanks? I guess?

There wasn't just one person that made this, though. We're like 5 levels deep. I wouldn't call this OC or anything, it's more like Derivative Content.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:20:31 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The middle finger on the ashbringer is hilarious. Then the look on his face as he looks through the door. LMFAO

frazzbot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:12 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

genuine LOLs were had

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:07:17 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

VARIAN VULT

Aevalia ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:33:59 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my fucking God

This tickled me. I was laughing so hard at work. That fucking expression and the ashbringer... Fucking perfect.

Hotdoq ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:54:15 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I am offended by this painting. Someone please do something it hurts my feelings.

CrusaderNoVa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:16:46 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Hahahaha :'D I mainly play Horde and this had me burst out laughing in work.. good shit! I think it's the art style paired with the title that got me, wp!

onlyomaha ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:36:15 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Dont they remove ashbringer in that expansion ? Corrupted ashbringer still remains tho

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:54:59 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Could be transmog, IDK. Anything is possible when you believe.

D_A_BERONI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:42 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe he's just really excited and got there early.

reddit_reaper ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:55:00 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

For the Alliance!

nater255 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:29:36 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Deus Vult! Deus Vult! Deus Vult!

StarbrandAlex ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:51:20 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

LUX VULT

Can't wait to remove zombie while Hordies cry on forums about the Forsaken being the original inhabitants.

werepenguins ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:27:19 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

that whole plot kinda makes no sense. Aren't the forsaken living in Lordaeron the reanimated corpses of the original Lordaeron citizens? They have more claim to it than anyone from Stormwind.

RevengeV ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:43:24 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The rumored theory is that somehow someone convinces Calia Menethil to side with the Alliance after the legion is defeated and therefore try to assert her claim to the throne.

werepenguins ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:21:30 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I guess... but like... she has no subjects.

StarbrandAlex ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:13:58 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

"The Forsaken are the only descendants of the people of Lordaeron!"

"What about all those people in the area that have died fighting the Forsaken? The people near Dalaran crater, Gilneas, Southshore, Stomgarde...?"

"Who?"

"What about all the refugees from Lordaeron who fled to Stormwind?"

"They don't count. I just like being an edgy zombie, OK?"

shamanProgrammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:24 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Gilneas holds no claim to anything but Gilneas. They seceded and need to deal with it.

Stormgarde and Southshore are basically ignored because the former was ruled by morons and the latter is a small fishing town.

If Stormwind cared for Lordaeron at all, maybe they shouldn't have left them alone to become zombies.

werepenguins ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:50:40 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That's all retcon. Anything that contradicts Warcraft 3's lore isn't canon to me.

SociopathicShark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:04 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

"It's not canon because I don't like it"

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:22:50 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

There are still a lot of living Lordaeron citizens out in the world. They all died or fled, but those that fled can always go back if it's safe to do so.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:59:33 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

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Vachna ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:18:54 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

XENO FILTH

You may want to look for certain goats on your side first.

Sebleh89 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:10:24 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Heeeeeeeere's Andy!

Anduin encouraged by his puppy, probably.

squanchy_91 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:27:47 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Can't wait until battle for azeroth so we can finally wipe the alliance assholes out

Jayown ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:02:39 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Kekked out loud. GG

roerd ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:44:24 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You know, there has been a group trying to do that the whole time. They're called the Scarlett Crusade. But I guess you Alliance people are particular about which Dreadlord you like to follow.

CARDBOARDWARRIOR ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:44:24 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Hordebabs are the last people who should be flinging shit about Dreadlords after WotLK.

Bedlam10 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:39:24 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Finally a post that's not an edgy banshee circlejerk.

Mifune_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:49:26 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Jeraziah that you?

seidinove ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:38 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Looks a little bit like Shelly Duvall.

Rockwolf125 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:55 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

So are you saying that 'All work and no play' re-ignited the war between factions? sweet reference

Zimmonda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:27 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I need a comic with Genn cleaning out the sewers

jasundead ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:29 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You can have it when you pry it from my cold, dead...oh wait.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:51:15 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Fucking christ

kwelts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:09 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That undead has my exact transmog!

Airique ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:31 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This shit made me laugh out loud.

Like a sudden awkward uncomfortable loud laugh.

(And I play horde.)

stereotyperoast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:57 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Should have had a caption saying โ€œHEEERRREEโ€™S ANDY!โ€

holysquish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:16 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

HERES JOHNNY LOL

Pabludes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:22 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Did you buy marshmallows yet? That tree of yours might just make a lasting bonfire.

donquexada ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:12 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Heeeeeeeeerrrrrreeeeeeee's PALLY

aeolus88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:04:06 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Crying from laughing on my lunch at work. Thank you so much for that ashbringer.

JeremyMo88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:01 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s gonna be a pain to get rid of that long river of slime. Where did that even come from?

antithesisofnormies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:17:11 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE'S PALLY!

SamuraiJakkass86 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:44:08 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This was a Forsaken door, so it technically already had that huge broken hole in it.

adamrsb48 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:15:32 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Precisely how I feel as a Ret Pally.

Makes me feel so weird when I log on to my Forsaken Arc Mage.

Haslinhezl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:16 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

that is fantastic good lord

Miyulta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:33:07 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

All this kids not thanking blizzard for nerfing the forsaken

hell0_cthulhu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:16 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yes defeat the undead scourge of Lordran, ashen one! Wait wrong game

HitlersBagOfMemes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:50 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

lOaR iMpLaCaShUnS?

IComeBaringGifs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:22 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Reptar Ogar, bitches

longoverdue83 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:21:36 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck this is gold!

sylect ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:34:55 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Good luck. What is dead may never die

sirfannypack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:08:11 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The battle for the Undercity V2.

charisma6 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:00:48 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Dankness falls...

nineonewon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:43:40 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The is magnificent. For the alliance, friendo.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:56:26 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Legit Question:

Why so much hate for the Forsaken and their current hold on Lordaeron?

Yes they've committed war crimes, but pretty much every race/faction has at some point in Warcraft's History.

No playable race or faction is inherently good or evil from what I've seen. They all have their quirks, flaws, failings at one point or another.

Just generally curious what drives so many Alliance players (and some Horde players) to hate on the Forsaken so much.

FlugelDerFreiheit ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:05:21 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Probably an unpopular opinion, but most of my hate for the Forsaken has to do with Sylvannas herself. She was an interesting character when the Lich King was still around, her story wasn't finished until she had her revenge on Arthas. But after Wrath, she stopped being an anti-hero and became a straight up villain. She's desperately trying to propagate her abomination of a race, trying to wipe out Gilneas who until that point really sort of just minded their own business, used biological warfare against them despite EXPLICIT orders from Garrosh to not use it and face the Gilneans in battle honorably. Then to appease the fanwank she gets written in as the Warchief, utterly upstaging Voljin before he even got to do anything, and axing pretty much the only lore relevant troll character. Then she tried to enslave the valkier on the broken isles (thankfully taking a fat L due to Genn's intervention) and WHY exactly does she do all these awful things? Because she's afraid. She's afraid of the rightful oblivion that awaits her when she dies, a great motivation for a villain, but she's not a hero and honestly hasn't been for a long time. This combined with the fact that it really feels like the other horde races by all accounts shouldn't really tolerate the Forsaken among themselves, all the races hordeside save for the blood elves are all traditionalists who place a high value on nature and things that are natural. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me that they'd continue existing alongside them without any problems. The fact that when Sylvannas said "Who will follow me as warchief?" it wasn't met with an tense untrusting silence baffles me to be honest.

arkindal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:33:42 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

trying to wipe out Gilneas who until that point really sort of just minded their own business

That was Garrosh's order though. Just pointing that out.

AhriLifeAhriWife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:54 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And she wasn't given the means to do it so she had to invent a way to get it done. That's why the plague was made and used to bomb gilneas.

Trickian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:46:33 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Garrosh ordered the Forsaken to the front line to function as meat shields, Sylvanas chose to save her people.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:43:11 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If you read her dialogue and POV in war crimes*....lol sheโ€™s so evil....that is the last person I would want for a war chief.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:23:58 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't personally call the Forsaken an "abomination of a race" as most are just citizens of former Lordaeron who were unfortunate enough to be turned into the undead either when Arthas was doing his Death Knight spree in WC3, or from plagued grain before the Culling of Stratholme.

I can understand your hate for Sylvannas, just as I can understand her fear of the unknown when she finally experiences true death. I can't say I wouldn't have done some of the things she has in an attempt to avoid whatever horrors might come for those who experience true death after undeath.

All in all though, do the Forsaken deserve to die out? Maybe, maybe not. Do they deserve to be purged and cleansed in flame because it is the "Holy" thing to do? In my opinion, absolutely not. We've all seen how corrupt the "Holy Light" can actually be.

Thank you for your reasoning though. It really helped me to understand why some people are opposed to the Forsaken.

Diltyrr ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:17:12 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I agree that the forsakens in general don't deserve to be purged. But they shouldn't be allowed to make more undeads unless the dead they bring back had given his agreement before dying.

Make them a bit hypocritical when they qq "What are we but slaves to this curse?" Is it a curse ? Then don't curse others or you're evil it's that simple.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:21:44 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Could the Forsaken not committing the war crimes just be spared and allowed to move out of the Undercity and go somewhere where they can be left alone? That'd be nice.

Diltyrr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:38:08 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sure Anduin could be talked into this !

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:31:55 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

As long as his puppy hasn't clouded his judgement.

Diltyrr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:50:49 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sure Genn dosen't give a flying fuck if Dumass and his friends (un)live happily ever after. As long as he can put down Sylvanas.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:54:17 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds good.

no_more_can ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:31:50 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm curious, do we know what happened that caused the Alliance to attack the Ruins of Lordaeron to begin with? Anduin is a generally peaceful man, so it seems out of place that he would just start going at the Forsaken that hard without provocation, especially knowing that action would lead to full on war with the Horde. It would be really out of character for him to attack people who are unarmed and trying to avoid fighting unless some real serious shit went down. Like Sylvanas pulling one of her mass conversion attacks on a heavily populated area. Again.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:35:40 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It is believed that the burning of Teldrassil happens before the attack on Lordaeron, and since Sylvanas was there during the burning of Teldrassil (exact reasons unknown) they attribute it to being an Attack from the Forsaken, if not the Horde as a whole.

no_more_can ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:54 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I really, really hope that doesn't all go down outside of the game like the events that opened WoD. It would be awesome if Blizzard sets up a couple prepatch events similar to Legion. One that guides the player through the story of the burning of Teldrassil and one that tells about the assault on Lordaeron. Each from the perspective of their own faction. This is the kind of stuff that always needs to be part of the game.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:50:00 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I agree. Hopefully Blizzard will do this.

arkindal ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:37:17 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

No playable race or faction is inherently good or evil from what I've seen.

Tell me one bad thing the tauren from Thunder Bluff have done.

WolfShaman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:21:48 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

They mutilated (picked) all those flowers! For no reason other than to use them for a multitude of things! THEY'RE CRIMINALS, I TELL YOU!

arkindal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:22:07 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, you got me :(

kajeslorian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:07:44 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you. I only play Alliance, but I really like those big nature loving bovine. It's hard to imagine what things were like prior to the Orcish Horde invading Azaroth.

arkindal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:11:12 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Tauren are cute, I wish there was a way for tauren and night elves to play together as they should, since their races have always been friends. I have alliance and horde characters (Among them an undead and a night elf, I'm so pissed for the destroyed capitals), and I also have a tauren druid, he's cool, I roleplay on wow too, and he has provided me some of my chillest moments.

SociopathicShark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:19 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I really wish that Alliance had gotten Highmountain Tauren. It doesn't make much sense but I really want an alliance cow.

arkindal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:41 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It would've been cool since horde got a twist on night elves and alliance a twist on blood elves.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:57 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I can't really name any specific events off the top of my head right now, nor can I currently do any research into it as I am at work (and 99% of my sources for lore are blocked). I'm sure there's something, but I could be wrong. I will try to look into it when I get home and have some spare time.

arkindal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:21:39 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure that tauren and kaldorei are the only races that never did anything evil. Unless you consider the faction of night elves with Azshara, which "our" kaldorei rebelled against.

Kaldorei even sacrificed all they had most precious for the greater good.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:26:15 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah pretty sure you're right. Tauren and Night Elves are pretty much the exception to my earlier statement.

Fairly sure the only reason the Night Elves are Alliance is because "pretty" and Tauren are part of the Horde is because "monster/ugly". Other than that they could make their own faction.

arkindal ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:34:57 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Fairly sure the only reason the Night Elves are Alliance is because "pretty" and Tauren are part of the Horde is because "monster/ugly". Other than that they could make their own faction.

Yes and no.

They should totally have their own faction as lore wise they've been friendly for thousands of years as far as I know.

Night elves and forsaken shouldn't have been in either faction imo.

Tauren are horde because in warcraft 3 the orcs saved their asses and tauren promised to be honorable about it. It's still an alliance that makes little sense imo, since tauren are nature loving and orcs are burning forests loving.

Night elves even claimed they wouldn't join any faction in warcraft3 if I remember correctly.

CARDBOARDWARRIOR ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:20 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Tauren are the only race that have actually factually legitimaterally done nothing wrong.

arkindal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:30:38 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

What about the faction of night elves we play?

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:20 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

What about the Bloodtotem, though?

meibolite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:01 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The blood totem are not the playable Tauren. That's like saying humans are bad because of The Scarlet Crusade, or the Dwarves are bad because of the Dark Irons.

Divenity ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:43:47 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

They are significantly and consistently worse than the others.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:26:43 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Could you elaborate on why you feel that way?

Not saying your view of them is unjustified, but to just say "They are worse" without any logical reasoning seems unfair.

Divenity ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:00:47 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Because they do morally reprehensible things far more often than any other race, they use the plague, even when ordered not to, against civilians. They experiment on prisoners of war, constantly. They raise people into undeath without consent, Sylvanas knows(and is one of the only people that seems to) that being raised into undeath damns a person to an oblivion of nothingness when they finally die for good instead of a peaceful afterlife in the spirit world (see the short story that takes place after the death of the Lich King), and yet she still raises people into undeath, without consent, without telling them about the price.

So, yeah, worse, much worse.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:51 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

As I stated in other replies to other redditors, the actions of racial leaders and troops should not be damning to those citizens who were not involved in said war crimes and more than likely did not want said war crimes to occur.

But I guess that doesn't matter and we should just commit mass genocide of an entire race because their leaders made piss poor decisions or their army committed atrocities? I guess we should have wiped out all of Germany after the Nazis did what they did?

Believe me, I in no way support the things Sylvannas has done since the death of the Lich King, but I do not think that all of the Forsaken should be purged and cleansed in flame because it is the "Holy" thing to do, especially considering that the "Holy Light" can be corrupt as well.

Diltyrr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:36:53 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Just a quick headcount

Evils : Sylvanas, Nathanos(No need to elaborate on those two), Master Apothecary Faranell (Experimentation on PoW), Grand Apothecary Putress (Wrathgate), Alexi Barov (Ask the horde PC to Kill his brother out of greed), Galen Trollbane (Turns on the DK Players after they helped him), Lord Godfrey (Do i need to elaborate, read his wiki page, quite a art piece that one)

Neutrals : Dark Ranger Velonara (Maybe?)

Good : Lilian Voss (Crusade agains the Scarlet Crusade and evil necromancers)

Most Forsaken who do have some kind of history are depicted as evil, if Blizzard wanted them to be morally grey they might give us story of morally grey characters ? Just a thought.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:59 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

So Blizzard's writing/portrayal is just crap? Seems about right.

Also, as I've stated multiple times in multiple comments to others, evil actions of leaders does not necessitate the purging of an entire race.

leva549 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:08 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Lillian Voss isn't forsaken, she runs off to do her own thing, she's a quest giver for the alliance too.

Diltyrr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:59:05 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Well then i'm stumped for good forsaken characters :p

Hoblerman ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:09:51 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Theres no hate man. Its just messing about. Altho 8 years ago those ud rogues in Stv were preeetty annoying...

aquadamn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:06 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Ah STV, where everyone thought everyone was annoying but rogues always took the cake

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:50 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I figured that OP's intent was just a bit of playful banter amidst our constant war between the Horde and Alliance.

I just had to ask the question, because between this subreddit and players I've talked to in-game, I've seen a lot of hate towards the Forsaken which seems to come from nowhere half the time, and when reasons are given it's usually things like "BUT THE WRATHGATE" which wasn't committed by the entirety of the Forsaken, only a small corrupt sect, or "BUT GILNEAS" which was ordered by Garrosh and the plague was used because Sylvanas has become a bit loopy since the death of the Lich King. Doesn't mean that all of the Forsaken are insane, plague-tossing, war crime commiting, abominations. Most probably just want to live out their existence in as much peace as possible.

no_more_can ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:37:58 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, that really goes for all the races, save for the Orcs. The Forsaken just have a real bad leadership problem. Any time the Allied races see a Forsaken, they are driving a plague wagon, ready to convert another town for the sake of not becoming extinct. Always at the command of their crazy-ass Banshee Queen. If the Forsaken really want to live out the remainder of their lives in peace, they're going to have to do something about the thousands pounds of insanity in the 150 pound sack.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:45:22 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed. I feel that the majority of the Forsaken are too afraid to speak up or stand up to their Queen though. Just like Germans who wanted nothing to do with the Holocaust were afraid to oppose Hitler.

DeathKnight00 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:23:59 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:25:11 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s cool! Hopefully Blizz fleshes that bit out more.

Lugonn ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:01:50 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Because the Forsaken make absolutely no goddamn sense in lore.

The Forsaken rebelled against their government and started to systematically exterminate anyone who doesn't want to join their death cult. They are evil, which is fine, but the world is not allowed to react logically to them or it would upset the faction balance, which is not fine.

Thrall just got his teeth kicked in by Daelin. Jaina was barely able to buy him a chance at peace, he should be tiptoeing around the Alliance hoping to god that he can convince them to let the orcs be. What's the first thing he does? He reaches out to rebels in Lordearon and starts murdering living humans. How does that make sense?

Lordaeron was the heart of the Alliance. Literally every single human in Stormwind was taken in by generous people from Lordaeron. Now their cities are filling up with refugees and the Forsaken are slaughtering everyone they can, and nobody does anything? Why?

Tirion was willing to march right into Icecrown Citadel to shove his fist up Arthas' bum, but Sylvanas is building concentration camps and he doesn't even comment? What's his problem?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:34:38 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm unsure what you mean by "rebelled against their government" and "systematically exterminate anyone who doesn't want to join their death cult".

The only thing that comes to mind as far as "rebelling against their government" is Sylvannas' decision to go against a tyrannical Garrosh Hellscream and use the plague on Gilneas. That doesn't mean all of the Forsaken were involved or wanted that to happen. I would venture to guess that the only Forsaken who were for that plan were the Royal Apothecary Society and the troops of the Forsaken Army. That isn't the entire population of the Forsaken. Same reasoning goes for the Wrathgate incident, whether or not Sylvannas was actually for or against that is uncertain, but I can almost guarantee that 90% of the Forsaken didn't want that atrocity to happen.

As for your other points, once again the war crimes committed by troops and leaders is not necessarily representative of the race as a whole. You understand that there are more than just our player characters and the racial leaders right? I mean look at how the building of Stormwind was handled. The ruling class decided to not pay the masons who built the city and were cast out, which resulted in the formation of the Defias Brotherhood.

Honestly I must have missed the part where Sylvannas was using concentration camps, so I can't really comment there.

Lugonn ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:41:28 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm unsure what you mean by "rebelled against their government" and "systematically exterminate anyone who doesn't want to join their death cult".

Well I suggest you go play TFT then, it's a good game. At the very least check the transcripts on Wowpedia.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:07:52 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The Frozen Throne? I played that. Forsaken and Scourge are not the same thing. Nice try though.

Lugonn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:11:47 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The Forsaken are in TFT. Again, read the bloody transcripts.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:23:51 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I know they were, but you're attributing the "Death Cult" and other atrocities committed by the Scourge to the Forsaken. Doesn't add up man.

Did the Forsaken fight against the Alliance races in WC3? Yeah, but I'm pretty sure 99% of that was due to the fact that the Alliance was all "Eww Monsters. Kill Them." rather than the Forsaken just wanting to kill for no reason.

Lugonn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:55 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Well if you're not sure then read the damn transcripts, Jesus Christ.

meibolite ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:53:17 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Don't be angry. /u/sporkthulhu refuses to believe that the forsaken are anything other than kitten loving pacifists.

Count_de_Mits ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:05:40 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Well im leveling my first horde character and from what ive seen so far the seem to be the most "evil" race in the game. Sure, no ones perfect and every race has their share of bad deeds but forsaken are the only ones whose quests seem to consistenly involve using plague, enslaving, experimenting on captives, conquering and other downright evil acts. What I dont understand is why people defend them so much. Sure, its ok to like them and play them and are very interesting both lorewise and as characters, but they are by no means they innocent and downtrodden this sub makes them out to be

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:24:48 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The way Blizzard portrays Forsaken today, especially with their new starting quests through Tirisfal, Silverpine, and Hillsbrad, they are definitely more "evil" than before Cataclysm.

I don't exactly know why Blizzard has decided to portray them in this way since Cataclysm, because I remember they weren't nearly this bad before the change to the quests and areas.

I personally feel like a lot of the "evil" that is happening with the Forsaken is coming from the Royal Apothecary Society (which has always been shady even before the events that occurred at the Wrathgate) and Sylvannas' misguided quest to preserve her people since the death of the Lich King.

meibolite ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:36:56 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The Wrathgate. I will never forgive the forsaken for unleashing the plague upon horde and alliance. Also the invasion of Gilneas. I cannot forgive the use of the plague anywhere at any time

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:30:41 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Wrathgate was due to a small sect of Forsaken involved with the inner circle of the Royal Apothecary Society, not the Forsaken as a whole.

Invasion of Gilneas was Sylvannas trying to quickly end the conflict with the Worgen as ordered by Garrosh (although use of the same plague that was used at the Wrathgate was supposed to be prohibited, I think Sylvanas just wanted to be done with it and made rash decisions. She's also probably a little insane now since her one driving force to continuing her life in undeath was finished with the death of the Lich King).

CI_Iconoclast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:21:09 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure she used the plague in gillneas because garrosh was throwing forsaken troops at the wall like expendable fodder to the point that when the wall was finally breached there was a literal bridge of forsaken corpses, how would baine or vol'jin have reacted if those were troll or tauren lives so carelessly discarded?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:02 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly my point. Not saying it was the right thing to do, but heck if my so called "Warchief" was forcing me to throw my citizens to their death in a war they couldn't possibly win on their own I'd probably make similar stupid decisions in hopes that I could save the lives of those loyal to me.

meibolite ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:43:05 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Sylvannas totally knew and approved of the Wrathgate, but she had plausible deniability. I stand by Wrathgate being sanctioned by Windrunner

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:06 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Even if that were true, that shouldn't damn all of the Forsaken for her piss poor decisions.

If it were okay to commit genocide against an entire race because of the actions of their leader then why didn't the Allies do the same to the Germans after World War II?

meibolite ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:53:41 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

No, we just told them they were not allowed to govern themselves because they started not one, but two wars that took the lives of more people than any other war in the history of civilization. Also we do hold the people responsible when they do not do anything to stop their leader from committing atrocities. Just look at history and you see it all around, from Ancient Egypt to contemporary times.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:22 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Who is the โ€œweโ€ youโ€™re referring to? The Horde or the Alliance?

Also, glad to know we completely purged all of Germany, Japan, and Italy after World War II. So glad those pesky Germans, Italians, and Japanese are no longer around to visit and experience their culture with.

meibolite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:10 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Obviously the "we" i was referring to is the Allies in WWII. And Japanese German and Italian culture was completely changed after WWII. The US forced Japan to abandon everything having to do with Imperial Japan following their surrender in 1945, and as well as the Allies completely dismantling and controlling both the Italian and German peoples for quite a few decades after WWII. The "culture" that you see now in Germany and Italy is a facsimile of pre-imperial Bavaria and Italy. Its the culture the world allowed them to have, not the one that came naturally. Just because you can go there and see all the buildings from the classical era doesn't mean that they are the same culture as back then. That is called historical preservation, not cultural preservation.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:36:59 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

So we agree that an all out purge of a people because of the actions of their leader(s) is ridiculous? Cool.

meibolite ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:27 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I do agree that it is, unless of course those people are an affront against life itself like the forsaken. The scourge cannot be suffered to exist, no matter what they call themselves now.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:43 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

So because they're undead they shouldn't be allowed to exist? Regardless of how peaceful they could be?

Seems logical.

Not.

meibolite ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:49:00 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

They cannot continue to exist without the death of the other races. How is it logical to keep them alive

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:39 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Just let the peaceful ones go somewhere where they can be left alone and live out their days? No need to purge them.

meibolite ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:55:35 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

They are an abomination. They are the defiled corpses of people who are denied their eternal rest. Many of whom were forced to become forsaken. Not a single one was given the choice on whether they would become a twisted mockery of life. Even Sylvanas knows that most will become twisted, and preys upon that to get them to do her bidding. They should not exist at all. The ultimate goal of Sylvanas is the same as the Lich King's, For all life on azeroth to be scoured, and only the Scourge to remain

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:06:56 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

So they weren't given the choice to become undead.

What gives you or anyone the right to kill them and force them into "true death" without their consent?

meibolite ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:19:09 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

How about the fact that they use biological warfare to kill their enemies and bolster their ranks? The undead are an affront to nature. The only reason the Horde even accepted them in the first place was because they needed additional manpower during the third war. Do you have a problem with destroying the Burning Legion? They are just as sapient as the Forsaken. Do you have issues with destroying the Silithid? The Faceless ones? The Mogu? Those are all threats to life on Azeroth, just as the Forsaken are. The Forsaken cannot be suffered to live because they are the antithesis of life.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:22:19 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I believe that any race that shows the ability to be peaceful should be given the chance, even if it is just a small fraction of that race.

I don't condone the blind slaughter of every remnant of a people because a portion of them did bad stuff that one time.

But obviously trying to reason with you is hopeless so I won't be replying to any more comments from you as it is a waste of my time.

meibolite ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:41:22 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If you could have shown me a single Forsaken in the lore that had peaceful intentions then you'd have a point. But the forsaken are STILL doing vile things in the name of the Banshee Queen. I cannot believe in letting live an entire race whose entire existence requires the continual destruction of other races. There is no peaceful way for the forsaken to live. So they either die off naturally, or they die by the sword. At least if they die by the sword, more lives are saved in the long run.

You also are getting way to worked up over a fictional people in a video game. I honestly don't care either way, but from a lore standpoint, there is no reason for any of the races of the horde or alliance to accept the forsaken's existence. If you want to see what happens when the forsaken are left to their own devices, just look at Tirisfal and Silverpine, and to a lesser extent, the plaguelands

arkindal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:36:43 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The Wrathgate.

A faction that worked against Sylvanas' orders, controlled by a dreadlord.

Gilneas

Garrosh' orders.

It's ok to hate someone/something, but do it for the right reasons.

meibolite ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:56:58 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Garrosh ordered her to NOT use the Plague. She used the Plague. Therefore she is evil. And the fact that she was more than willing to use the exact same plague used at the Wrathgate completely undermines her "It wasn't me" defense with the Wrathgate. We know Sylvanas is willing to go to extreme lengths in order to not only keep the abominations that are the Forsaken alive, but to also bolster their ranks. She is no different than the Lich King and the way her forsaken act is no different than The Scourge.

arkindal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:27 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Garrosh ordered her to NOT use the Plague.

I don't think I claimed otherwise. I just mentioned that Gilneas being attacked in the first place was on Garrosh's order.

leva549 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:45 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

No playable race or faction is inherently good or evil from what I've seen.

The Forsaken are. Massacre of civilians, slavery, death camps, live experimentation, biological weapons, necromancy.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:17:40 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Tell that to the ashes of your silly tree.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 16:20:54 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You can tell them yourself. Because the paladin brought the ashes with him. Because Ashbringer.

I'll just see myself out.

xzarion2112 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:45:30 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Time to purge the undead filth rightful citizens from Lordaeron.

Jenks44 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:22:24 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

They're purging zombies, not the Scarlet Crusade.

CI_Iconoclast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:39 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I mean most of the scarlet crusade are zombies by this point, their entire presence in the plague lands was turned to the scourge and the high inquisitor rides with the horsemen, their garrison at the scarlet monestary has been crushed twice! all that should be left of the scarlet crusade is straglers and plague husks.

Jenks44 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:40:25 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If they're zombies, then they're no longer the rightful citizens. There's no question about the undead state of the current squatters.

Lugonn ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:02:57 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Little late for that sentiment. As shown by the Horde's actions after Wrathgate, once your country is taken over through backstabbing and mass murder you're perfectly allowed to take it back.

xzarion2112 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:04:26 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That'd make sense if the Horde was responsible for the battle at the Wrathgate. The Horde was ATTACKED at the Wrathgate.

Lugonn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:11:34 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, by a group of Lordaeroni citizens felt their leader wasn't representing them properly, so they ousted their former leader and installed a new one. Then they massacred everyone who didn't want to join them and the survivors were driven out of the country.

Clearly the Horde thinks that this does not result in a valid claim to the country. Funny thing is, that's the exact same thing Sylvanas did. The Horde made its position on the matter very clear: the Alliance is well within their rights to take their country back.

xzarion2112 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:54 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. You're acting as though Putress was leading some kind of populist revolt. Delusional.

Lugonn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:50 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Oh but he very clearly was, no matter how much that goes against your headcanon. Sylvanas wasn't nearly "death to the scourge and death to the living"-y enough for about half of the Forsaken, so they kicked her and her bootlickers out and installed Varimathras on the throne.

Both represent "the people of Lordaeron"

Both have zero actual claim to the throne

Both got in power by stabbing the last ruler in the back

Both slaughtered everyone who didn't want to join their death cult

What makes one more legitimate than the other?

xzarion2112 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:52:59 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Well, I'm done here. I can't get any benefit out of arguing with someone who can't even acknowledge the facts of the matter. If believing things the way you do helps you sleep at night, that's fine. Have a good one.

sea_dot_bass ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:03:49 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Putress & Varimathras literally usurped Slyvanas as leaders of UC, hence why there was a Battle for Undercity scenario after the Wrathgate.

xzarion2112 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:26:35 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm aware of that, I've played it. But putting down a revolt doesn't illegitimatize the people of Lordaeron's right to live in their home. That's like saying that because the South tried to secede from the US, that the people who live in the States are there illegitimately after the war ended.

sea_dot_bass ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:32:05 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

But an undead corpse isn't a citizen of Lordaeron and there are living refugees from Lordaeron who have the actual claim to it. The actual parallel you need to draw from is True Blood. If absolutely no citizens of Lordaeron were left alive, then the right to the land reverts back to you, but that isn't the case.

xzarion2112 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:47 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The Forsaken sure seem lively for corpses. Undead =/= Dead.

sea_dot_bass ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:45:37 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You are still undead, almost all legal laws and hereditary claims apply only to the living. The laws that do deal with the dead tend towards the "do not defile or desecrate a person's remains" territory. Guess the Forsaken like to ignore both those things ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ.

meibolite ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:53:58 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

hey, you dropped this: \

Lugonn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:13:47 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Destroying someone's headcanon is never fun. I don't blame you for not knowing the lore. Blizzard is both incompetent and likes to actively lie to rile up the player base against each other, it's their fault.

LaughingGaster ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:16 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

He's not wrong...

rparr3784 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:02:57 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Gonna Eminent Domain yall off the continent so hard.

Rio_Walker ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:09:13 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I swear to Elune Graymane, if I find out that this whole "Liberating" campaign against Horde is actually your Pissing match with Sylvanas - i'll go back in time, save your son and then throw him off my Hippogryph in your arms so that if he dies it would be your fault. FFS...

strike089 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:19:45 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

In before we find out that Greymane set that tree on fire as a false flag so he can fight Sylvanas again

Rio_Walker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:45 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I bet he peed on it first.

CptnZolofTV ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:31:47 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I laughed harder at this at work the my coworkers would have liked.

Message_ahead ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:21:56 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Or when classic wow comes out time to run out of quests from 45-58. I can't wait!

rieh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:33:45 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

/2 LF 4 more BRD

>5 hours later

/2 LF 1 more BRD

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:52:17 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

/2 LF 4M Need Tank

1 hour later

/2 LF 3M Need Tank

4 hours later

/2 LF 1 Tank

2 hours later, finally in the dungeon.

"Sorry all, my house is on fire, g2g."

/2 LF 1 Heals

CARDBOARDWARRIOR ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:52:58 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Jokes aside I'm sure we can all agree that Forsaken genocide is the best course forward for Azeroth.

StarbrandAlex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:57 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Dilly dilly

Patzzer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:19 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I laughed way too much at this hahahhaha

StarMagus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:44 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Except they are taking away the sword before you can do that with it. :(

Tsevyn ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:39:46 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Na itโ€™s still transmogable, so heโ€™ll be good to split him in half.

marisachan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:03:26 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You'll be able to transmog to any appearances you've unlocked (and a few of them will be unlockable post-Legion.)

shadox96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:07 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I don't remember them saying they're specifically removing them from inventories, do you have a link to such statements?

timwoj ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:56:56 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

IIRC, they also stated that the artifact appearances will be available for transmog.

StarMagus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:24 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I guess if you want to you could use them, I mean techinically nothing is stopping people from using the starting weapons they get at level 1 at level 110 either.....

TrueRadicalDreamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:39 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That feel when you know Blizzard won't let you actually cleanse the Horde filth from the game because sales.

Feels bad, man.

sea_dot_bass ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:05:10 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

They will if we keep trying! DEUS VULT!

WeareLegion_Dogs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:57:53 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Wish we could burn more than the tree

Sgtdeweyfish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:01:28 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Literally made me lol, take my upvote good sir! (Even if I am a filthy Horde)

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:03:04 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's okay I am too

akanyan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:53 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'll trade the home of a people who are already used to uprooting themselves and have no attachment to the world for the glorious sight if the bastard world tree burning any day.

Oscalev ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 21:23:20 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

But see the thing is while we most certainly will succeed in deforesting the wretched elf lands, the alliance will fail miserably in taking our city. Anduin doesn't have the balls to take it from us and Greymane is a ferocious poodle with a one track mind that our beautiful dark lady will keep distracted with tennis balls until the time is right to cleanse the world of those horrid beasts.

Nightveil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:44 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Now I want a Foresaken Tennis Ball toy.

shamanProgrammer ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:51:49 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Lordaeron doesn't belong to you.

You, who stood and watched from your hollowed walls as innocents were slain by the Scourge. Who refused to give help to refugees fleeing. Who, upon realizing you were fucked, summoned a pack of mad druids to attack the advancing Scourge that turned your people into beasts.

Fuck Greymane and his dick-measuring contest. And fuck the Alliance, who turned down the Forsaken because "ew monsters" then happily accepts violent wolfmen into their ranks.

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:49:57 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The dead should stay dead. The living citizens of Lordaeron are massacred by the forsaken as we speak but do they not matter? The undead are not the only people living in Lordaeron.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:07:25 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

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Vanamman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:55 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I mean that is technically true, with caveats lol

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:35:12 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

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๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Proditus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:54 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Some did, but were turned away because of the bad things the rest of their people were doing. As far as the Alliance knew, it was just anouther Scourge plot.

wilder_people ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:14:46 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Who did? Is it mentioned in game or in the books anywhere?

swanzor1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:55 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Chad alliance

ItsACaragor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:11 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You wish pigskin.

Tyrealle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:16 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm glad it takes the whole might of the Alliance to ruin some ruins. Great job guys!

LaughingGaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:48 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

But I'm so glad it takes 1 felguard to kill your war chief. great job guys!

Tyrealle ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:42 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

At least we managed to keep our leader! Great job leaving yours to die, cowardice is truly the alliance way.

Drakav ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:29 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Varian sacrificed himself to save the others. That's the exact opposite of cowardice.

Tyrealle ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:59:12 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Well they should have followed his example and got disenchanted with him, who knows, maybe a draenei would have turned into a small shard.

LaughingGaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:38 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Your warchief: stabbed in the belly, then died crying

Varian: Killed an infernal, killed numerous felguards, and only died after 2 felguard stabbed him from behind and Gul'dan disenchanted him

Tyrealle ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:42:54 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Where are said tears? Vol'jin died on his feet, unlike Varian who died on his knees, submitting to the legion at the last minute!

Also Vol'jin didn't leave behind an orphan, unlike a certain pile of green dust. Alliance parenting at it's best.

LaughingGaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:08 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Vol'jin died sitting on his throne moaning about spirits

FTFY

At least you guys have Sylvanas :)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:03 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

tirisfal glades is my favorite place in wow. I love the undercity. Will break my heart to have to leave it :(

arkindal ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:30:33 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

"Time to force ourselves in somebody else's home we have no claim to and destroy the home".

Typical human.

nventor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:06 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Bitch, we forsaken will never die!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:53 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Be fucked.

ginfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:14 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm still unsure how to feel about Teldrassil burning down. This is where I started playing WoW and it's beautiful. One of the most beautiful areas in this game. It fits the Night Elves so perfectly... I find it hard to imagine it otherwise.

I'm getting the idea that Night Elves are getting the boot from Kalimdor and Undead from Eastern Kingdom... but what about Blood Elves and Draeneis?

carpesangrea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:45 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

As to the latter part of that post, I do believe BE/draenei are getting explanations as to why their areas will not be affected.

Robsn0w ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:35 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Stay away from our city Alliance filth. :p

Thinkingpotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:01 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's gonna be another Wrathgate Alliance Scum. Come and get it!

Randomgamerc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:28 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

thats fine...if ya read the syl short story of how she gets her second in command a new body im sure things are gonna end great for that paladin =p

_Insomniac__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:47 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You guys can gladly take undercity, we really don't have a use for it, us Horde members will warm our hands over the burning remains of Teldrassil

StarbrandAlex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:09:06 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Teldrassil

What that? Is that where those weird chicks that ride tigers come from? Oh well. Lordaeron is back!

Neilas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:51 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Implying the Highlord is human filth

Zimmonda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:33 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Time to purge lorderaneans (is that the word?) From lorderan in the name of a kingdom that let them all die in the first place because it was busy not paying the people who rebuilt their city.x2 for gilneas

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:47:21 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah come try and take this uninhabitable city from us. I thought Alliance were smart?

Flownyte ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:26:03 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You know we can purify, right? The Argent Crusade has been doing it to the plague lands for years now.

By the light, this is going to be easier than I thought.

[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 18:27:14 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah good luck purifying a city full of plague LOL.

Rehbero ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:40:06 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

They kind of managed it in WPL, which is a bit bigger

yingkaixing ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:00:19 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My vote is to just fill the undercity with concrete.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:15:34 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Imagine the Alliance when they storm into UC with no resistance only to see everything is sealed with concrete and mana buns.

arkindal ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:33:44 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I thought Alliance were smart?

That's your mistake.

smitch42a ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:02:17 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Lordaeron rightfully belongs to the undead. Got over it!

Morec0 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:32:28 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Forsaken here: dutifully dedicated to camping your sorry asses ALL over Lordaeron when this happens.

AlmightyBracket ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:20 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Bring it.

Moerdac ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:01:04 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Dark lady watch over you

Oscalev ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 21:11:56 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

So you plan to invade our homeland, kill (kill again) our citizens and steal our city in the name of what? The Alliance? Bunch of fairies and racist terrorists if you ask me. The forsaken in Lordaeron are the same people that have lived there before the Scourge came into being. Undead John the Fisherman is the same as live John the Fisherman, only difference is that now his skin is falling off his bones. How dare you. I hope all your elves die after we burn the twig you all call the "World Tree". FOR THE HORDE!

Falling_Rayne ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:28:43 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

DEUS VULT, INFIDEL!

SirBaldBear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:36 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Not everyone stayed in Lordaeron. Death people have no claim. So... no, you don't have a claim to a human kingdom.

Oscalev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:51 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The Dark Lady will have your head for this. Death to the living!

Ezben ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:27 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Daily reminder that humans dont have any fucking right to lordaeron and that 99% of people who lived there lives there now

StarbrandAlex ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:07 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Daily reminder that Forsaken are not people and Hordies will say anything to defend their terribad faction.

Naxxremel ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:30 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Come. We need fresh bodies.

proffesordaddy ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:06 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

But does the assbringer protect you from being bombed by plague? Because I hope it does.

LordZombie14 ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 16:32:15 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

According to the Warcraft 3 game, all the filth has already been removed. Humans are the filth. Give it a watch... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIz4lgxlLHw

Real_Lich_King ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:49:46 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

PERSONALLY, I AM MODERATELY INVESTED IN THE OUTCOME OF WHAT HAPPENS IN MY KINGDOM. LET IT BE KNOWN THAT TRAITORS AND TURNCOATS FOLLOWING THAT WORTHLESS BANSHEE ARE THE REAL PROBLEM. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD, THE LESSON IS THAT YOU SHOULD NEVER STICK YOUR CURSED RUNEBLADE NAMED FROSTMOURNE IN CRAZY.

Seradima ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:20:59 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

is it bad that it took like a minute and a half to read this because I read it in his voice?

acheron53 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:58:29 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

no, it just adds to the character to imagine his voice saying this.

extoxic ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:04 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Just like you filthy human scum to take homes away from others. But on a related note did anybody call for a night elf bonfire? And after that maybe some roast space cow.

meibolite ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:42:33 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Goat. We are Space Goats thank you very much.

Tantric75 ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 16:28:42 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but instead of blood flooding the hallway it will be anduin's tears.

Edit: Relax people, it is just a joke.

MLGVergil ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:53:45 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

How big is your Sylvanas body pillow?

Tantric75 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:03:04 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think it's too big, but your mom complains about it in bed sometimes.

MLGVergil ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:28:21 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Edgy af man

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:17:07 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Says the guy making the same lame body pillow joke that all these threads bring about.

Elennoko ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:28:58 on November 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, y'know. Except the Forsaken are largely made up of Lordaeron citizens, so the Stormwind humans have absolutely 0 claim to it. Whatever continues your "Muh faction conflict. Your faction sux" I suppose.

StickyRAR ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 23:53:05 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That's fine. We'll just burn it down so you can't use it.. oh, and our kindling will be from that delicious tree we burnt down...

jycreddit ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:33:37 on November 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Anybody else saw a Glory Hole and a dead bitch?

Sorry.