Hello everyone, we've locked this video due to repeated inquiries or attempts at finding and spreading this person's personal information. This is a violation of Rule 3 as well as reddit's content policy. We greatly appreciate those of you who just came to comment or have a civil discussion.
To be honest, I've been in he situation (crazy lady tried to get me involved while working at Chick-fil-A) and I enjoyed telling the story to my coworkers 300x more than how much it annoyed me. If she got physical or really confrontational, she might have been in a different mood.
But you can see her start to giggle. She's thinking "man when Rick gets in here he ain't going to believe this story". Shes got conversation starters for a week now. I saw the drive through lady is the only winner here
Shit, I wish juicy stuff like that would happen while I'm at work. I love it when customers get all uppity. I don't care if they yell at me, insult me, whatever. I don't let it make me mad as long as I'm doing my job properly, I just find it entertaining.
This is from my neighborhood in Richmond, VA. This lady has a reputation for being super aggressive: knocking on and pressing her sign up against people's windows, calling them out if they don't give her money, refusing the offer of a meal/food, beating on the dog she often has with her...
Suffice to say that I got a little chuckle out of these guys exposing her scam. Fuck her, her car's worth more money than mine is and I work my ass off!
I see this same woman almost daily during my commute to work. She never hesitates to get up close and yell through your window. Her sign usually says something like "Homeless. Please help." I have never given her any money and now I'm glad.
It's not, but consider if you didn't do anything wrong and someone was following you around with a camera and saying they're going to post it on the internet. It's tough not to feel a little violated. Of course, we only ever see the videos done to people that deserve it, so no one really cares, but what if it was some creepy guy following around some attractive girls?
Making money off of them without the person's face blurred out or receiving their release is a jurisdictional matter and a civil suit could be brought in most places I believe.
I'd that were the case, how would any television news media exist at all?
In which country? This video was taken in the United States where filming in public is legal in all states to my knowledge, but I recognize that may not be true in your country.
myhihi1 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:33:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not necessarily illegal but it is kind of rude to film random people without their consent unless you know the person you're filming is doing something wrong that the public needs to see like this lady.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:49:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
ref_ ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:02:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not illegal to film, but it is still technically illegal to commercially broadcast someone's likeness/actions without their consent.
it's not true. Photography doesn't work that way. The "art" is the photo and the photographer owns the intellectual property, the photo. It's the reason paparazzi exist. Even celebrities don't own their likeness. That alone should tell you everything you need to know. Photos belong to the photographer, not the subject.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, you don't need consent to broadcast someone's face on television. Haven't you ever seen B-roll of people walking down a random street? Do you think they went out and hunted each one of those people down and asked them for consent before running it on the news? Same for Times Square on New Year's or spring break. All those random couples kissing as the ball drops- no way did they each sign an agreement saying they could be broadcast around the world. They just went to Times Square for a party. Spring break is the same, some reporter out on a beach covered in attractive young people partying, they don't get consent from hundreds of people before airing that, and they don't blur their faces.
Ik right? If a woman is wearing a skirt in public, I don't get why they get so mad when i take pics
sizz_lor ยท 7863 points ยท Posted at 17:42:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I gave her money and then she made fun of my job. I had a pizza topper on my car. She's a bitch and will literally walk up to your car and stare at you.
Wait. After you gave her money, she made fun of you? WTF?
sizz_lor ยท 5009 points ยท Posted at 18:19:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. She asked how much money I made and proceeded to tell me that it wasn't very much, then she laughed and walked away with the change I handed to her. Lol.
That's unreal and I'm sorry you had to experience that. Meanwhile, there are probably people out there begging for money that really are homeless and we don't give it to them because of people like this lady.
sizz_lor ยท 1507 points ยท Posted at 18:30:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had the suspicion that she was not really homeless. I just gave her money so she would get the hell away from me. She was way too chipper and excited like she was getting pleasure out of scamming people. plus i've seen her walking up that same road talking on a cell phone.
Maybe she is really fucked up in the head and dependent on people to make a living. That's a very strange thing to say and do if she is indeed a con-artist playing a part.
in the early 2000s I was in Santa Monica and I saw a homeless man ( not like lady in this video, full rags and very rough looking) unlock a brand new silver mercedes-benz and drive away....
There are quite a few people who do it.
Panhandlers can make a shit ton of money doing it, and you know full and well they are not reporting it on their taxes.
This guy can make 100k take home in a year by panhandling. Put that into perspective. In a state with no income tax, a person would have to make about 128k to make a take home of 100k after taxes, social security, and Medicaid/Medicare taxes came out.
This guy likely reports no taxes, probably gets government assistance... AND brings home 100k a year.
A car isn't a home. Maybe the car doesn't even run and that's where she lives. What is she going to do? Tell a few random guys and all of the internet that she lives in that SUV?
Durzio ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 18:07:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she's willing to beg for money, why not? She's willing to tell anyone driving down the street that she's homeless, why not tell people who could actually get her attention. The internet occasionally does nice things.
But that's a nice new fiat. She's clearly got the money.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:16:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because she's illegally parked.
Durzio ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:17:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:57:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You really think that's a nice body?
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:51:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kinda jumping to conclusions there
mognoj ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:55:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Evidence of her never having worn a name tag herself, and hence, being oblivious to the lack of authoritative powers said name tag imbues on the wearer.
[deleted] ยท 9071 points ยท Posted at 16:44:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When getting confronted the best course of action is to ask the drive thru staff for advice.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:12:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
70ish dollars. Some Redditors are generous. But I don't need the money anymore (I guess I never really did) so I'm thinking of deleting this account and starting another.
mzoltek ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:21:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If asking them fails, be sure to confront the guy taking out the trash.
Thats the thing that was really odd to me. Going around to random people asking them what was going on... like how the fuck should they know, you just approached them while they were minding their own business. That and the "Somebody gonna kill you" comments.
Of course she is. Why else would she go up to that big dude taking the trash out... she was hoping somebody would step in and just beat them up for no reason.
I think she was trying to avoid going to her car so that they wouldn't get it on video. She was hoping going to other people would stop their filming. That's my two cents.
Honestly, it gives me a feeling the woman isn't 100% right in the head. Not just in the "I'm a con artist" kind of way, but in the "I'm out of touch with reality and not 100% functional in society" kind of way.
Hash43 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:09:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminded me of my round of golf yesterday. I was sitting in the club house getting a hot dog with my group when some random guy came in wearing a star wars shirt and walked up to us and asked "where is Dylan?", like he expected every single person on the golf course at any given time knew who Dylan was. When we told him we have no clue who that is he looked shocked.
[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 18:34:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hardly odd. She is attempting to be deceitful and manipulative. If she poses the question "what are these people doing to me" to a stranger, she expects them to assume that since they are men and shes a woman that she is under some type of sexual assault.
If the stranger jumps to this conclusion on their own, then they are more likely to run with it. As a professional con artist/liar/manipulator this woman understands this perfectly.
I'm honestly surprised she didn't solicit more dialtone 'white knights' to pick a fight with these dudes. It would have worked in 2012 I bet. Clearly the "I'm a victim!" card is being used up to the point of no-effect.
Welcome to 2017 bitch - enough people have watched this shit happen on the internet that now logic is prevailing.
Luckily for you I am a certified internet armchair psychologist and I can explain this behaviour by a bloated sense of entitlement. This lady thinks she is the shits so she can demand anyone to explain to her whatever she wants. And she gets so pissed off when her wishes don't come true that she resorts to threats of violence and murder. In her mind any demands she makes are perfectly reasonable. Nah, I don't know. But that could be one explanation.
It's a tactic abusive people use - gaslighting. You make the other person think they're being unreasonable or going crazy.
In this case, they do it by leveraging their power, which is that nobody wants confrontation or violence in public. They act a bit wild, and frame their question such that lack of reply implies agreement. "Does anyone think this stupid ass is right?!" and then when there's silence: "See, everyone thinks you're wrong."
You see this sort of poker game / social game of 'chicken' all the time in social groups. Pay particular attention when someone raises an objection to someone who is quite popular, and if you want, confront them: "no, the reason nobody is speaking up is because they don't want to piss you off."
Now they look like a bully, and the group realizes they're being manipulated. I think this'll only really work if you're sorta mid-tier social-standing-wise.
I think its to try to divert attention. Its as if she's saying look, no-one knows what you're talking about, you must be the mad man.
However, and I hate to be that guy, it is possible to own a relatively recent vehicle but be unable to make ends meet including paying off that vehicle and any rent or mortgage you may have. She may not be taking the piss but be a bit misguided and still stressed and desperate.
Of course, she may be a freeloading bitch, but it's worth considering other possibilities too.
Like the lady who flipped out on me for touching her salad at a nice lunch spot? That was a good one. Like lady, if you want tongs and plastic gloves, go to Subway. I'm the cook, I'm gonna touch your food. There's a reason for handwashing protocols. Entertaining as all hell though when people freak out and you're like "whatevs, I'm getting paid."
That McDonald's worker was clearly lying to her. That McDonald's worker clearly holds the answers to all of the universe's secrets. She has the capability of seeing into forever, past and future but that selfish McDonald's employee is being selfish by not sharing the information that is asked of her.
I assume she was doing it to get people on her side, like, "look at these weirdos filming me! I'm innocent, I'm doing nothing wrong, help me." And then when that doesn't work, she moves on to someone else who didn't hear the first exchange to try and get them to make them stop so she doesn't have to do anything on camera.
Yeah, that was kind of weird. She was just by her car. You'd think she'd just speed on out of there. What the fuck can McDonalds do, other than call the police? Perhaps she wanted McDonalds to trespass the guys from the property, so she could keep doing her thing.
That drive thru employee had on the expression of "Oh lawdy I do not get paid enough to deal with your dumb ass." As if this person is going to A: have any power to fix your problem, B: holds knowledge you do not regarding the situation, and C: gives a fuck.
This woman is an idiot.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She didnt say that...
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was so strange, she was acting like a literal child just walking up to the nearest adult. Some McD employee doesn't care about your problem or have any sort of authority.
I think you stop looking at fast food workers as figures of authority around age 12.
I'm sure people have called her on her crap in the past, and it hasn't taken much to make them (aka "the problem") go away. The pseudo-threat of "I'm going to make a scene" or "I'm going to get others involved and complain about you" was enough to get them to buzz off so she could go back to her schtick. This time it didn't work.
Because she's used to having somebody else deal with her problems in life. It's why she's out begging for money and then hassling McDonalds workers instead of taking charge of whatever situation she's in and trying to change it.
She most likely has a mental illness. I actually feel a little bad for her. It's would be humiliating to most people to do what she is doing - there must be something else motivating her. People do not have to give her money - in fact, people probably shouldn't be giving the homeless money if there is a decent safety net in place in the community.
Not at the drive through, not after paying/before getting. Small window of McDonald's Employee->President->Vice President->etc
vwzwv ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:22:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was so strange, she was acting like a literal child just walking up to the nearest adult. Some McD employee doesn't care about your problem or have any sort of authority.
I think you stop looking at fast food workers as figures of authority around age 12.
Criminal women always involve the nearest stranger and false accuse when discovered. 'McDonalds worker, this man is hurting me' 'Yes mam, I've called the police, they will dispose of him shortly and I will stand by your side.' Those damn abusive men just keep hurting all the princesses.
Usually an adult acting like a child is mentally ill or not in a healthy state of mind. So let's all just insult her without finding out more info about the situation. Sounds like reddit.
Sounds more like reddit to blame everything on mental illness and not on people being shitty.
Either way I don't know and I don't care. If she's homeless she's not going to be reading my comment, and calling her behavior childlike is a pretty soft insult.
I recall a post about a guy who paid his own way through harvard or princeton or somesuch university by working in Alaska and coming back and using the money he made while in Alaska to pay for school and minimized the rest of his expense by living out of a van on campus and eating only rice and beans which he cooked using a camping stove inside his van.
Sure, but there's a whole spectrum of "work and sacrifice" between A) fucking off and doing nothing and B) doing what this guy did.
ndpugs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If he went to apply anywhere, then told that story. It's a strong chance he had a better possibility at getting a job. I'd hire someone with that kind of drive and motivation.
There is not really a reason that you can't both enjoy your time in college and get your work done. It doesn't have to be a binary choice.
Not exactly the same thing, but it reminds me of those people that brag about never getting any sleep, working through vacations and missing a bunch of family events so that in 30 years they can enjoy their lives.
Yea, that part sounded pretty cool. The living in your van, eating pan cooked beans and rice for 4 years instead of enjoying your college years was the part that sounded awful.
The living in your van, eating pan cooked beans and rice for 4 years instead of enjoying your college years was the part that sounded awful.
Yeah, that was part of it. I drove to Alaska and back, then lived in a van for a few years. It was awesome. Had lots of good friends, a driveway to park in, low overhead...
And that was after college. I wish I had a van then. I was sleeping in a car, or if I was lucky, my dad's Jeep. It was easier and cheaper than commuting from home to just sleep in the lot most days, since I had a gruelling round-the-clock schedule.
Except you can go to Harvard and not be guaranteed luxurious living.
Like school doesn't automatically dictate that you'll ball out on your job out of College, right?
That's what I came to say. Not to mention you're sacrificing what, for many, are the greatest years of their lives, for a shot at some dream that may or may not happen.
So you guys think someone brave, resourceful, and self-sufficient enough to work in alaska and live out of a van, and parlay that into graduating from an ivy league school with little or no debt, can't figure out how to become successful?
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:58:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pride. Hard work. Sacrifice. Self-reliance.
Yea, it sounds horrible. If you're a lazy, pampered, soft, entitled, greedy loser.
That guy sounds like he is tougher than most, and had the tenacity to stick to his plan. Most people I know wouldn't even walk a city block if you told them there was a million dollars in it for them.
Yeah, getting out of Harvard without student loans, poor bastard.
Semirgy ยท 241 points ยท Posted at 17:41:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Harvard/Princeton has extremely generous financial aid policies. If your family earns less than ~$80k a year, you pay $0 to attend. Even if your family earns ~$150k a year your expected contribution is something like $15k, which makes it on par with a cheap state school.
If this guy was eating rice & beans out of a van, it's either because his family makes good money and is cheap or... well he really likes rice & beans.
Semirgy ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:09:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a common misconception that Harvard/Princeton/Yale etc. are only for the super rich. Hell, even if you pay the sticker price, Harvard is still cheaper than USC and has more generous financial aid.
cgio0 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:19:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, and you know you will have a job after college. I know of a lot of schools that let almost everyone in and charge 30k a year. So kids go get straight C's or B's and can't find a job and are living at home with student loan debt
The reason they're able to do it is because mostly rich kids get in due to doing better in school,so good colleges make it easy to go if you're poor, the hard part is getting accepted
Lots of rich kids get in even if they don't do better in school. Power and connections go a long way. If you don't believe me hear it from rich kids themselves.
The guy just wanted some bs sympathy. Ivy League schools have insane financial help for poor people. Most poor people go to school for free there because they want them there.
My brother works on the north slope. They stay out their in like 2-3 week shifts generally I believe or at least he does. They pay a ton. He said it's not even too hard (granted it's summer now). He said like 70 percent of it the work is sitting in a truck in case you have to go fix or move something. He said they pay a ton.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doubt it was Harvard. You're obviously unfamiliar with the saying "ya can't pahk ya cah in Havahd Yard." Plus Harvard is tuition-free for low-income students.
Back in the 80's you could make $30,000 fishing in alaska for 3 months, rent+tuition+food+books was probably about $20,000 at state U. Never did it though, super hard/dangerous work obviously.
I obviously have much to gain by making up a barely interesting story about an old reddit post. You seem like a smart person, I bet you could find it if you know where the search bar is.
The notion that you have to be rich to go to Harvard comes from so many people lying about how they got into Harvard but didn't go because it was too much money.
A lot of the people I met at Harvard were not wealthy when they attended.
DB473 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But I thought the old fashioned way was pretending to be homeless and beg for money to fund your education?
My parents couldn't afford some fancy scholarship.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People squat and do the same thing in Harvard. Sucks when someone can make more money sitting hanging out in the square than someone working a full day.
emmsix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, don't ask me, HE'S the one with the 2.0 grade point average!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or an employment opportunity at McDonald's
Nikwoj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Harvard accepts a higher percentage of applications than McDonald's. They're top people
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Harvard are having black-only graduation events now, cant wait to see the media reacts
I really need information in a YouTube format with lots of infographics, metaphors, and a British man in his late 30s to explain anything to me nowadays.
babsa90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nature vs. nurture debate
xiroir ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:51:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my comment was to compliment the woman, not the position she is in. nature vs nurture has nothing to do with it. either her macdonalds job is a fraction of the reason or it is not at all. there are a lot of nature/nurture things that went on in her life to make her the person she is now. it's not the crux of what i wanted to say.
babsa90 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:03:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People learn from their jobs all the time, and dealing with hundreds of customers every day will definitely teach somehow how to handle a lot more social interactions with strangers than they would if they were working an office job or whatever else. I don't know if you worked a customer service job, but I have definitely felt a lot more comfortable with interacting with people after a while of working at a grocery store. Saying that she probably developed those skills from having to deal with shitty people is not taking away from her at all, there's plenty of ways someone could have dealt with that situation. Some people I worked with in customer service were complete idiots and would probably have said something stupid or felt compelled to seek someone else to deal with the problem because they were overwhelmed by the situation. So, no, I don't think that it's taking away from her at all when someone says she has learned from her job experience. Humans learn all throughout life, it's not just something that happens in your formative years. I was being tongue-in-cheek with my original reply insinuating that you must not believe people are capable of learning and they are just inherently born with their abilities/personality.
Lol I cannot believe you guys are actually arguing about this. Every single sentence, every letter and every punctuation point has to perfectly align with a redditor's point of view, or else they will inevitably list all the reasons why they are right and their interlocutor is blind and ignorant.
It's like watching a really annoying nature documentary.
Pr0go ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
eek barba durkle.. someone's gonna get laid in college
She may be, she may not be. Hard to tell from that 10 second interaction.
xiroir ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:58:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the video gives you a lot of information about her. she's friendly in a wierd situation, does not blame anyone or mingles with the situation. she just calmly and rationally talks about this problem. that shows a lot of maturity/social skills/friendly disposition. she could have just as easily told them to leave the premise and leave, but she did not. she tried to DE-escalate the problem aswel. i probably explained it poorly, but i just wanted to note that it is better to compliment a person. she handled it well and the person should be getting the compliment.
[deleted] ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 17:26:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She is still clocked in so that I totally give a fuck is still in full swing.
And that's why you'll never see the POTUS, VPOTUS, Speaker and a random MD's employee all in the same room at the same time. Gotta have a contingency if something goes down.
Dude you messed up that order. Everyone knows it goes President -> Vice President -> United Airlines Employee-> Speaker of the House -> Random McDonalds employee.
President -> Vice President -> United Airlines Employee Jam -> Federal Airport Security -> Scarlet -> Fire -> Speaker of the House -> Drums -> Space -> Random McDonalds employee (acoustic encore).
I mean, with the way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if so many people get impeached that the line of succession ends up all the way down to a random McDonalds employee.
In my city people collect disability/welfare then deliver pizzas and beer for cash. Business doesn't claim it they don't claim it. They also get Percocets prescribed to them by the 100s and sell them for cash. Clean houses for cash.
Then complain the government doesn't Give them enough when they're smoking a pack a day and eating out every second day.
Poverty in Canada is a 300 pound fat white woman yelling at the cable tv. Talking on her cell phone. Driving her car. While eating 2nd and 3rd suppers.
She isn't "lying to avoid work": she's lying as part of what she has chosen to do as "work". I know a couple of people who do this - one guy from my hometown I've known for over 25 years - who really do see what they do as their job. I know that's a very fucked-up way of looking at things but that's their call - and, in the case of the guy I know well, it's far better IMO that he sits out on the street pretending to be homeless and asking for money than that he does what he used to do to earn money, which was grab people at ATMs, hold a syringe to their necks and tell them he'd give them AIDS if they didn't give him a couple of hundred quid...
helimx ยท 195 points ยท Posted at 16:49:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially when they figure out she probably makes more money than they do working at McDonald's
you can see that connection happen on the McD's lady's face when these guys said "she parks in your lot, doesn't buy anything here, and begs for money out on the corner there." The look of "parking here and not a customer? OH HELL NO!"
To be fair, I don't understand why someone would work at a job like that. There are plenty of entry-level, no-skill-needed, minimum-wage jobs that could actually lead somewhere other than $10.38/hr for shift manager.
You are absolutely right. But the problem is that people feel like these jobs should provide a living. They aren't supposed to be anything more than college kids and high school drop outs. You aren't meant to live off McDonald's wage. People are just lazy. Because ultimately it is easier than a lot of other jobs. People don't have ambition just desires.
I'm not talking about service in general. McDonald's store structure in particular is very limited. I worked in the food/service industry as a student, but started at a small restaurant. Worked on customer service and quickly got up to deliveries, bringing in $12+/hr within a few months. It wasn't great, but there's nothing comparable at McDonald's.
Beyond that, if there's no good work nearby, apply elsewhere. You live only once. Dedication to a dead-end, minimum-wage job will only distract you from real opportunities.
and then the guy taking out trash, he gets paid minimum wage to work his fucking ass off, he probably works full days with little to no break and this dumb useless fucking cunt who can't even work for her own money comes up and asks him for help. If it was me I would have been like "get fucked" after those guys told me she was out there begging.
mognoj ยท 839 points ยท Posted at 17:48:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work at McD. Taking out the trash WAS my break. Notice how he just mozies along, not in a hurry to get back inside. Dude knows how to work that trash break.
Didn't work at McD's but I worked at another fast food place, can confirm trash breaks are a thing, we had a lot of trash cans and a dumpster with a lock on it so I could take up to about 6-8 mins. without anyone thinking it suspicious
If you commute on the subway in NYC you will end up hearing the same beggars telling the same sob stories on the same trains every day.
One guy has a dog he brings with him that has been "pregnant with puppies" for like two years now. Another lady's house is in a perpetual state of just having burned down for the last three years or so.
It's unfortunate because I would help someone out if I knew they were in genuine need. But I've become so jaded at this point that I just assume every beggar's story is bullshit.
mrkruk ยท 122 points ยท Posted at 18:11:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite honest beggar - guy on a sidewalk bridge in Las Vegas. His sign said "Why lie? I want beer." I went in a casino and got a free beer, then left and took it to him.
Best I'll do is offer to buy them some food at a nearby fast food place. In the several times I've done that, they've never taken me up on it. "Nah man...I just need a few bucks."
If you've ever worked at a fast food place, you know how zoned-out that guy was. Then out of nowhere some lady is talking nonsense and being filmed about something.
I guarantee he didn't get a break unless he took out the garbage. A lunch? Fuck no! If you don't smoke, then keep on working! When I worked in fast food, I actually took up smoking so I could get a break, and I was a shift manager, and made $7.10 an hour to get screamed at, food thrown at me, and almost all the paper work, because at 17, I was more competent than the other shift manager, who was 35 or 36. I was also closing manager (until about 12:30-1am even though we closed at 10pm and I was only allowed to be clocked in until 11pm) while still in high school. It was terrible!
Fuck that lady for hoping for their rescue...she is a shit human being.
ZeroV2 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:32:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, it's legally required you get a break if you work over 6 hours or something like that
SigO12 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:33:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was driving through New Mexico and it was a sunny and fairly hot day. There was some guy out holding a sign for a business across from a beggar taking money from cars. It had to suck to see at least one person every cycle give that guy money while you're working some shit job to at least try.
I felt like giving him the $40 I had on hand but I figured he had the dignity to not beg for money and not accept. Also I was in a 20' moving truck pulling a vehicle and he was on the opposite side of the road.
She's taking charity from good-hearted people who might otherwise give money to causes/people that actually need it. Sure, you could say what's the big deal, it's some loose change, a dollar here and there... but it's the principle, she's not self-employed, she is exploiting people who see her as a woman in distress and needing help.
People aren't suckers for wanting to help someone who might be hungry, what a stupid thing to say. And nobody is saying she can't make money off them. Clearly she can. But with that, she should rightfully pay the price of being exposed as a shit human being, and people rightfully should let her know how dishonorable her actions are.
Yeah they are. People have NO CLUE what that money is going to be used for. They are giving it away just making an assumption, even if the person tells them that is what they are using for, you still don't know if that is true or not. If you are freely going to give out money like that, don't be pissed when its not used the way you want.
ZeroV2 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:33:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The point is that she is ruining it for people who might actually need some quick help to get back on their feet. It's pretty shameful to beg for money when you're able bodied and make at least enough to own a pretty nice car like that instead of just working an honest job
Truan ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:50:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because she's taking advantage of an unwritten system.
huh.....everyone take advantage of said system. Some when pannhanlders do it its a terrible thing.
Truan ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:58:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here, let me explain it a little better.
I think it's safe to assume that when a person is panhandling, the donate expects that they are at the end of their rope for survival. That the spare change they are donating will give the person a meal, or maybe some semblance of structure for the future. I can't believe that any donor is assuming that they're encouraging a person to make a career out of it. Mostly because those kinds of people are a shitty blight on society for taking advantage of other people's kindness
I 100% assume that there is good chance the person is panhandling professionally. I know they are out there. People make good money doing it. I rarely give money to panhandlers anymore. I give to local agencies that help.
All of that is on the donor. They are making a lot of assumptions with very little info. If you don't know exactly how your money is going to be used then don't use it. If you are willing to give it away then be ready to accept that you might be suckered.
Truan ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:05:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a really immature way to look at life. If you're a stock broker and put all your money into Enron, do you just blame yourself for not looking at how you spent your money, and not at the company for duping you? You're basically just excusing dishonesty
I am certainly not supporting either dishonesty or what u/mero8181 is saying, but I don't think your analogy there is an especially good one: if you are a stockbroker and you put all your money into anything you need to accept a degree of responsibility if things go tits-up. You need to diversify your portfolio in a way that spreads your risk sufficiently. It doesn't matter how honest or not a company is: if you everything into it, and it goes under, you have to accept that your strategy was flawed.
Truan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't literally mean life savings because that would be irresponsible. I just can't imagine the user would be duped, and walk away thinking "well that outta teach me a lesson!"
Yes, accept the possibility but that doesn't mean you can't get pissed when you find out you are being duped. This lady deserves all the hate/shame headed her way.
Should you really get pissed if you blindly give money to someone without knowing how the money will be used? If their is any question don't give.
2OP4me ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:12:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone giving Charity is not a sucker, they are a good person. Someone taking advantage of said person is human garbage, like you right now. The fact that you can't comprehend why this is a morally terrible act just makes you a piece of shit like this woman.
Not all charities are the same. Giving to the right charity makes them a good person. If you give to charity before you do your research on how the money will be used then don't get pissed if the money isn't used how you would like.
You're making the assumption that everyone is morally corrupt.
Edit: You are also making the sweeping assumption that, if people have the option to commit "morally corrupt" or "illegal activities" without any fear of punishment, that people will always commit the morally corrupt or illegal activity, which isn't true at all.
(Note that not all morally corrupt activities are illegal, just to point that out)
BB8MYD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe not everyone, but probably at least 60%, and .6 rounds up to 1. 1=100% and 100% = everyone. Solid logic in my opinion.
If people are willing to give money indiscriminately like they, why shouldn't people be able to try and get a share? Yeah its wrong what they are doing, but don't give money out if you don't want to learn how its being used.
So, on the real, panhandlers around my area make about $85/day. It's above minimum wage, about as much as entry level office work or a senior fast food position. Still not much though, and there's a certain level of abasement to it, so most folks aren't lining up to do it.
Basically, if you can get better work, usually you do.
Most panhandlers ARE essentially homeless, but many pay a small rent to stay in slum houses or sheds or whatnot. The reason they opt for this is usually so they have the freedom to take drugs as they want (which are forbidden at the shelters), and they don't have the up-to-date documentation (ID, pay stub, bills) required to get better lodging.
My point is that the myth of the rich-and-comfortable panhandler is generally not true. You could get an office job that pays the same, and not have to worry about chasing down cars. With this lady, she's probably mentally unstable and on drugs (meth is my default guess), so that car (which is likely either a boyfriend's or stolen), won't last long, and if she's living at her parents' or boyfriend's house right now, that sign might not be lying come this time next year. Prostitution or some kind of fraud usually come next.
Dahkma ยท 631 points ยท Posted at 17:22:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She is searching for white knights to "deal with these guys".
The sad part is that strategy could have and probably did work in the past when she was younger and more attractive. She keeps at it for 3 attempts. I wonder how many times she successfully used it in the past to come to rely on it.
Maybe she was really just looking for some White Castle.
Dahkma ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:33:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Burger Shack Employee: Ding-dong! May I interject for a second? As a Burger Shack employee for the past three years, if there's one thing I've learned, it's that if you're craving White Castle, the burgers here just don't cut it. In fact, just thinking about those tender little White Castle burgers with those little, itty-bitty grilled onions that just explode in your mouth like flavor crystals every time you bite into one... Just makes me wanna burn this motherfucker down.
[he turns to his partner]
Employee: Come on, Pookie! Let's burn this motherfucker down! [starts destroying stuff] Come on, Pookie! Let's burn it, Pookie! Let's burn this motherfucker down! Let's burn it down! Let's burn it! [calms down] So you guys maybe should just suck it up and go to White Castle.
You seem to be projecting. She's begging for money on a street corner, I'm sure she's just trying to take the "easy" but humiliating way out and also assumed they might escort them off because since she's parked there.
I agree she's being scummy, but there's
something really irritating about the camera guy too. Also, wouldn't she have grounds for suing since he's lambasting her without permission/her license?
Those poor employees though ๐ Probably just thinking "... fucking white people..."
Dahkma ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:26:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"...redditor for 7 minutes"
You seem to be projecting
there's something really irritating about the camera guy
he's lambasting her without permission/her license
"... fucking white people..."
Looks like you'll fit right in here, welcome to Reddit.
I used to have people try and rope me into arguments when I was 16 years old working at a bowling alley. Really people? The fuck am I gonna do to resolve this?
The most power I ever had was to tell people they were too drunk and if they didn't remove themselves the police would do it in a few minutes.
Ha, you must have gone into one of those "fancy" bowling alleys. At mine you wore whatever stank the last person had. Not my proudest job but at least the people were a blast.
iShark ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:47:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god that look at 1:30 when they tell the McDonald's manager what car she drives...
She was rattled and knew she was busted. Total panic move. Would've been 1000% better to just get in the car and drive away. People do stupid things under pressure.
Oh, that's not irrational. If that's McDonald's (or a franchisee's) property, then the employees might be authorised to decide who can or can't be on the premises.
"Management reserves the right to refuse admission", or something similar.
Her only problem was not understanding that she wasn't any more welcome on the premises than them, what with her not buying anything and taking up a parking spot (in an admittedly empty lot though).
Still, it could have gone another way too, because corporate probably doesn't appreciate someone coming on McDonald's property and creating drama, and making another person feel unwelcome.
Probably thought she could salvage the situation if she could convince the worker she was a customer being harassed since they hadn't yet gotten footage of her in the car. Too far gone lady, and putting it on the minimum wage* worker who already deals with shit on a daily basis is a real class act.
She was actually just trying to make a scene hoping that would make them feel bad and go away so they wouldn't film her getting in the car. She can argue that she just put her stuff on it and it wasn't her so long as she never gets in and drives away.
Lmaoooo she literally went up to every worker trying to play the victim. These are mcdonalds workers lady, they're not getting paid enough to listen to you bitch. And every single one of them probably needs that money more than she does
NapClub ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:12:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah those drive thru workers have all the real power.
that lady actually said someone was gonna kill that guy, pretty insanely aggressive.
though lets be real, i doubt any of this will hinder that lady in the least from making lots of money.
yeah i didnt get the point of asking random people around to help when she is clearly caught making a fool of people. and might i add thats one sweet ride Fiat 500X worth 15-20000$
in markdown using two underscores makes italics so in /u/chappinn's comment the (ใ) is in italics. Italics were created in Italy(hence the name) because they realised they could print letters on an angle and fit more letters into a given space, while still remaining legible.
I feel like this comment has the potential to be factually bullshit, but you stated it with such eloquence and conviction that I'm tempted to believe you.
Italics were first used in Italy.
Markdown escape sequence is used to differentiate characters that are used in the markdown language from just plain text (comments)
What would you say if some random lady came up at your work saying these guys are bothering me and the guys said she's begging for money but she's not homeless and she says tell them to stop bothering me and the guys say she's parked in your parking lot she says she's homeless but she has a car?
"Excuse me, McDonalds authorities? Please place these harassers under arrest. Lock them up in the play pin until Ronald arrives to set bail. What? Yes, and an extra-large diet coke, please..."
A 'homeless' woman in Toronto was pictured on front page of local newspaper (1990s), her neighbor recognized her, called the paper. The 'homeless' woman actually lived in a $1m mansion, and her husband was the dean of a university.
Cash = no tax record. Free food, free clothes, and cash.
There are a number of them around where I live too. We see them daily. They will park blocks away from where they beg and at the end of the day go get in their car and drive away.
You can make $20 an hour at busy intersections no problem. All it takes is 4 people giving you $5 in an hour.
I think she says something about being on disability. If that is the case, then this is a way for her to supplement her disability income without losing her disability benefits (which she would if she got a job). Because it is "off the books", she gets her disability money plus some extra.
Of course, if she is capable of this, she is likely capable of working, so not only is she fleecing well-intentioned people, she is also fleecing taxpayers as well.
edit: to be clear - we don't have all the facts here and there are tons of possible factors that could make this worse or better. I am just providing one possible explanation of why a person on disability might do this. Whether that is acceptable requires more information.
Yeah this is not a judgement against the people participating - it's just a showcase of how and why people do it and survive financially.
Mental problems can't be readily seen unless they have physical manifestations. She could be abusing her disability or she could suffer from severe anxiety or some other issue that wouldn't work well in an office environment.
The issue is, for me, do they pay taxes aside from sales tax? If so, it might not be the best income from a moral perspective but it could be much much worse.
She could be abusing her disability or she could suffer from severe anxiety or some other issue that wouldn't work well in an office environment.
As someone with anxiety problems, having to ask strangers for money and the constant threat of being arrested for vagrancy or fraud would stress me out way more than dealing with some asshole in my office. And even if I were successful, I'd still have to live with the guilt of intentionally defrauding people of their money. I'll pass.
The issue is the financial cliff that welfare like disability creates. You're not incentivized to earn more until you can get a significant amount more at a job. Minimum wage levels and service industry stress levels aren't worth it.
This speaks both to minimum wage being too low and probably to the need for something closer to UBI instead of disability.
As a "side effect" of fixing the panhandling fraud it would also virtually eliminate actual homelessness.
Of course then workers would get the idea they could demand fair treatment from employers because they wouldn't be under threat of homelessness themselves. That would be bad for the ruling class.
Pawk ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:48:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why don't they do a graduated system? Like every extra dollar you earn, you lose 20 cents in benefits?
Basic income exists in Macau since 2008, a UBI existed in Dauphin Manitoba and eradicated poverty, Basic Income existed in Namibia and Indiaโโall of them showed positive results: http://ubi.earth - http://basicincomeday.com/evidence
Because imagine someone who is juuuust shy of working. They're on disability. Okay, so the get a job at McDonalds.
Now imagine someone else that works at that McDonalds who has a lot of fucking problems, physical and mental, but is juuuust shy of qualifying for disability.
So now these two people are working at the same place, their difficulties are similar enough in severity that it would be difficult to guess which one is on disability if you didn't know, doing the same job. But one of them is making, say, 75% more because they're on disability.
It's easy to say that's okay from a comfortable, educated, middle-class perspective. But to the person that makes their living at minimum wage at McDonalds because they come from a poor family, didn't have good opportunities growing up, and is now too bogged down to improve himself, this is profoundly fucked up.
Can you imagine struggling to pay your power bill every month and having to eat McDonalds every day because you can't afford three meals all the time, having to work right next to this guy who is not discernibly different than you but is coasting by on government cheese? Maybe he has a nicer car than you?
No, the problem with disability is that if you rely on your insurance unless you can somehow swing a job with a top notch government-level insurance plan then you can go fuck yourself as far as social security is concerned. You can either not work and get 800 a month to live on or you can work and lose your insurance.
Disability literally traps people in their situations.
I might not be the best with money, but I'm okay. The 'newest' care I've been able to afford at any point in my life is probably 4 - 5 years old.
Now this lady with no job who's begging for change and is probably collecting some sort of welfare or disability has a newer car than me, as I BUST MY ASS at multiple jobs?
While your hard work is laudable, I'm sure glad I haven't had to work that hard, and I'd rather see our society ratchet down the work responsibilities and increase the average person's leisure time (especially in the face of increasing automation), rather than feed an entitlement complex driven by "well, if I had to work this hard, so should you!"
Not everyone who gets assistance deserves it. Many who deserve it don't get it. In order to fix the latter more important problem, the former may not be addressed as well as some would like. Same with criminal justice. In pursuit of punishing all wrongdoers, we sometimes punish innocents. I'd rather avoid the latter than be perfect at the former.
Threads like this one are just outrage peddling that ultimately hurts people like you and me, because we far outnumber people like in OP's video.
I want more free time too... but until then calling out some fucking scumbag for scamming people into giving her money under false pretenses is perfectly acceptable.
The entire system is created to keep people in their place. Who benefits from health insurance being tied to a job as well as subsidized 30-year mortgages? If you want health care and a roof over your head you are much less mobile.
There is plenty of evidence that backs up many of your above statements: http://ubi.earth - http://basicincomeday.com/evidence - Basic income exists in Macau since 2008, a UBI existed in Dauphin Manitoba and eradicated poverty, Basic Income existed in Namibia and Indiaโall of them showed positive results.
Don't blame it on minimum wage--we need minimum wage for high school and college kids, or anyone with zero job experience. It's a starting wage for a reason--it's supposed to built upon. The problem is that companies no longer provide a culture of job stability and career growth. Everything that American workers' unions tried to build got abused and discredited. The middle and lower classes are no longer about picking an employer and sticking around for the long haul, because the money isn't livable, nor is the treatment. And the companies are just fine with that, because they don't have to pay into your healthcare or your retirement plans.
She could be abusing her disability or she could suffer from severe anxiety or some other issue that wouldn't work well in an office environment.
Oh yeah. To anxious to work in an office, not too anxious to aggressive panhandle on the side of the road and angrily confront people who call you on your deception.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:31:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mental problems can't be readily seen unless they have physical manifestations.
Yep - the fact that she thought that the random McDonald's employees were somehow going to intervene and help her leads me to believe that there is something not quite right in there.
This woman is not suffering from anxiety. I don't think anyone with anxiety would be fucking panhandling like that. That's like oil and water man, the two don't mix.
Hey man people have problems - I'm not one to judge them. If they pay taxes I don't care - if they completely cheat the charity of others and cheat their neighbors, county, city, state, and country out of taxes is where I start to care.
It's easy to villainize without knowledge
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:27:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This woman is obviously an example that people would take advantage of compassionate people like you. I think your best off donating to charity than just blindly trusting people.
Yep and that's why I donate my effort and not my wallet to people. I'll help you physically but donations are to charities with a proven history of doing good
Stress manifests itself in many ways, many of which do not necessarily make not much sense to anyone from the outside looking in. It doesn't make it any less a disability, it's simply something that needs to have therapy to be managed.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:17:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that "I function perfectly fine except when I have to actually do something difficult like work at a job stress". Yeah that is very convenient. the truth is 95% of these people would shape right up if forced to. They are taking the path of least resistance.
This is what I always see. Can't work in the office because anxiety or w/e, but has no problem going to concerts, parties, etc. I see a lot of people that needed to be smacked when they were kids, but instead got nothing but coddled.
It's really hard to see how she could be on permanent disability. Permanent disability is supposed to reflect an inability to hold down any meaningful work, and it usually requires an inability to perform work activities for a year to qualify. She's very clearly performing work activities if she's panhandling in a regular spot at regular hours.
If your welfare system encourages people to work harder to stay on welfare than to actually earn their own money, then something is wrong with your welfare system.
It could also be someone else's car that she's borrowing. Or someone else is paying for it. Having a car like that is an indication of wealth, but not enough--by itself--to conclude that she's totally faking it. For all we know, there could be a repo man following close behind.
There's obviously something mentally wrong with her if she is doing this.
S7EFEN ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:49:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's providing a service.
By accepting money from others she's making others feel good about themselves for helping out this woman who is playing the role of a disabled person in need.
:)
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:04:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
your sir; should be the moderator at r/capitalism. take your up vote.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:44:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are thieves and scumbags mentally ill?
While it's possible there's something wrong with her, it doesn't look like it. Look at her demeanour when she goes away after they ask her about her disability..she's full of shit.
Here's my story about people working while disabled: I used to work for a large international investment bank on Wall St. There was a man who worked there who was a quadriplegic. He was in a wheelchair that he maneuvered with oral controls. He was there in a suit every day.
I'm not sure what his job entailed; maybe he was a Hawking-like financial genius. But was there, working.
Of course, if she is capable of this, she is likely capable of working
Which isn't really the right way to look at it. There are plenty of disabled people who are perfectly able to have a job.
The problem is that people with disabilities should not lose their disability checks when they work.
I know a guy with some neuro-illness which means that he is bound to a wheelchair but still perfectly able to work an 8-hour workday as the head of programming.
His life is however far more costly than of the average able bodied person.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:12:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you can run and beg strangers for money you are not disabled
Ermcb70 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:24:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can be mentally disabled. I know people with PTSD who can't hold down a job but could do all the things she does. But at the end of the day If the government is giving you disability then you should live within the means of that stipend. The guys I know do.
What a load of goddamn ratshit. I'm applying for disability right now and you get a decent paycheck especially since you aren't working. If you live with a SO then you automatically make 700+ bucks a month.
This woman does not need cash with that clearly brand new vehicle, and there is no possible way she could have afforded that vehicle on disability.
dbx99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having financial trouble is a long way from homeless and begging
I'm sure her case worker will be interested to see a video of her running after cars.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Capable of working doesn't mean a job is available. People are quick to judge a "fake" panhandler, but you really gotta ask your self - if they are literally begging on the fucking highway, perhaps they don't have a better option? Like, who in the fuck begs on the high way if they don't have to?
can't tell if im out of touch or not but $20 and hour doesnt sound like its worth the effort for the amount of...pity and disgust you have to live through to get that.
Or roughly $60k a year untaxed in cash assuming a standard 8 hour work day 5 days a week. Start doing it longer and 7 days a week and you start getting upwards of $80k in handouts a year. It adds up
workact ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:02:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$20/hour ~ $40,000/ year. Closer to $50k/ year if you count taxes. Could be up to $80k equivalent if she has a ton of other income (higher tax bracket)
$20 an hour is lowballing it especially as a woman panhandling. There was a TV interview here in Florida where a guy and his gf did this and were clearing over $100 an hour. They did have a dog on a rope leash so maybe they had that in their favor.
In another post I point out a number of stories of "high-income" panhandlers and the reality that most of them make very little (the true homeless). The people that abuse the charity of others are the most upsetting
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:41:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Used to be homeless. You do this for too long, real homeless people will find out about you, and they will beat the living shit out of you. Dangerous game.
Yeah - they are a gang - they work together. They rotate who buys lunch and who is at what corners. We see them meet up at the start of the day and at the end of the day they all head the same direction. They are younger and healthy looking people.
They control the area essentially. I feel bad for them and have some disdain towards them.
Your hourly wage is determined by your net over 8 hours divided by those 8 hours. You can't rake someone's yard for an hour for 50 bucks and say you make fifty bucks an hour, lol.
phome83 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My elderly neighbor once gave me 10 bucks to help him move a dresser up his stairs. Took all of 5min maybe(took the drawers out first)?
But you'd think someone living in a mansion wouldn't want to be caught dead asking for money. What if they run into someone they know? Wouldn't that be embarrasing? And wouldn't they rather spend their time doing anything but getting $20 an hour asking strangers for cash in the middle of the road?
Weird. Reminds me of a show, or maybe sketch comedy bit, where rich people pay to pretend they're poor. Some kind of "poor person camp" or something, to simulate what it's like being poor. As if they were fantasizing over that kind of life in much the same way the poor fantasize over being rich. Wish I could remember what it was...
Some people like to experience the unknown. Some people like to feel like they are getting the better of others. Some people are just whacky. We don't know the reality of this lady or the one mentioned in the comment. It just sucks that it appears to be a reality, even if the percentage of cheat beggars is low.
I try to feel it out by looking at their shoes, clothes can be cleaned but you dont see a homeless person with a nice pair of shoes if they are sleeping outside. Also, i try to only give to people doing something to contribute, music, window cleaning, magic tricks, one kid keeps the alleyway behind my work for lunch each day. even if they are bad at it, rewarding laziness just promotes more of it. Get up and try to do SOMETHING for a few bucks, you only have the entire fucking day
Can't tell if sarcasm...some people conceptualize better by understanding it in terms of people and amount. 4x$5 is easy to understand and makes it understandable.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And here I am begging my city's employers for an opportunity to work.
I just keep thinking... maybe I can earn enough to buy a gun soon. It'll be the last purchase I have to make.
I'm sorry I didn't mean to strike a chord. You seem like a decent person and I thought humor would lighten the mood. I have no problem deleting the post if you'd like.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's fine. You just hit a little close to home with that one. I managed to get an interview later tonight at a place I used to work at, so I'm feeling slightly less hopeless right now.
Earlier the food stamp lady laughed at me and I just want to cry. At least I got approved for benefits.
There was a King of the Hill episode where Bobby learned to do exactly this from a bunch of people in their early 20s doing it despite not being homeless.
They could be house poor...idk - or the person could just like feeling like they got the better of someone by taking their money without doing anything.
Just because you live in a million dollar house doesn't mean you have money. Look at Toronto home prices, even in the 90s they were high. Same for the bay area. Million + homes can be shacks in drug infested areas.
Or she could be the worst person alive - it's all conjecture and anecdotes.
If you live in a million dollar house it means you don't have to beg for money. I'm not trying to argue about it. I'm trying to speculate. That person isn't doing it for the money in my opinion. There's a neurosis there.
If middle class people have to resort to panhandling - which, from personal experience, is kind of a grueling activity - it says something about the decline of the middle class.
I'd say more than half the "homeless" around my city are like that... I'm not saying they live in the lap of luxury but they're abled bodied and sound of mind, they just don't wanna work for their money when they could be making more sitting and begging, tax free.
This one dude near my shop uses his dog to get more money, was bragging about how much he made one day and it made me sick... Dude earns more than 20$ an hour just by saying "Have any spare change for the two of us?" Or some variation to that.
A metropolitan area that I lived in had a huge problem with panhandlers at major intersections. Heavy traffic plus lots of red lights means plenty of opportunity to panhandle.
Reports were that panhandlers at a busy intersection could generate $300-500/day.
After I read that in the paper, I stopped giving money directly to homeless people. In fact, I don't give out random charity, period, unless I know and trust the organization. Too many con artists out there looking for a handout in the name of charity.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the small town I live in there is a hotel on the main road where this clan of 'homeless' people live. They pay to live in the hotel and then walk down the quarter mile road to the intersection and panhandle all day. Some of them have cell phones which they use while they beg. All of them have new clothes and are clean shaven.
I first came to this town 7 years ago and immediately knew they were not homeless at all because I am from Los Angeles. The difference between real homeless people and fake ones is night and day.
You can make $20 an hour at busy intersections no problem. All it takes is 4 people giving you $5 in an hour
You can make a million dollars an hour if you get get a thousand people to give you a million dollars an hour too, if we're just making up numbers might as well go all out.
Do you have any sources on how much money pan handlers are making, because I hear this pan-handlers make more money than (insert respectable profession here) line all over the internet but I've never seen a bit of data to support it outside of personal anecdote.
making $300-$500 daily is very viable. I know where I live, we're encouraged not to give money to homeless. There are plenty of shelters and food banks here. Giving money just creates this problem or perpetuates other problems.
But she doesn't need to beg. They've got money, she could be doing anything she wants. She could golfing, playing tennis, going out for dinner, shopping, yet she decides to beg and take people's money.
That's what makes the least sense to me. Not that she doesn't need, but that this is how he CHOOSES to spend her time, when she doesn't need to.
[deleted] ยท 280 points ยท Posted at 17:06:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it seems like a pretty easy method of getting cash
It also seems terribly degrading and tiresome and monotonous. If you don't have to do it, I still have no idea why you would.
Bakoro ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:28:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The boredom I think is the worst part. I started doing a security gig while I finish up school, and standing around with nothing to do is surprisingly hard.
If I could sit and watch paint dry I'd at least be able to shut my brain off, but I have to stay just alert enough to be aware of my surroundings, and there's not really any groove I can fall into.
Shit seems like it should be the easiest thing, and it's fucking killing me. I don't see why anyone would willing choose to stand and do nothing when they could be doing, virtually anything else.
Almost all the rich people I know are incredibly stingey and thrifty. I guess you don't get to be wealthy by frittering away your dosh paying your way, right?
Let's not mince words or advocate ambiguous ideas: You become rich by making a lot of fucking money. The typical "rich people penny pinching" is just that person being an asshole. If someone makes $1 million a year, not ordering a slice of cheese on their Whopper to save $.30 isn't even worth the time it takes them to argue about it; they just get off on being difficult and making other people miserable.
Edit: To put an even finer point on it: These rich penny pinchers usually drive BMW's, Jaguars, Mercedeses, etc. To me, a car like a BMW sounds like a cheapskate's nightmare... Expensive to buy, expensive to insure, and especially expensive to maintain. You want to know how a true cheapskate rolls, you look at the master: my dad. He has a 1992 Toyota Celica. The body panels are all rusting out and it's had wiring problems out the ass, but somehow the thing just won't die. He keeps it on the road, making repair after repair, spending sometimes weeks scouring junkyards.
i'm surprised you haven't noticed that a good general rule is that the more money someone has the more selfish they are with money.
you don't get rich giving money away to homeless people, you do get rich saving every dime you earn and spending only the money you've swindled from other people. to a lot of people it's not about having enough money for what you need and want to do, it's only about having as much money as possible. i have family members like this, have millions in the bank but will freak out over a dollar.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i think you misread something. a paycheck is money you earn, which is why i differentiated 'earning' from 'swindling' in my post. swindling is obtaining money in an unethical but legal manner.
not at all what i said. if rich people earn it ethically then it's not swindling. this is not very complicated and i'm surprised you're having such a hard time understanding it.
Have you ever played runescape? Go to the grand exchange. People beg for money. Eventually people give it to shut them up. repeat. Its simple and it works.
That's what makes the least sense to me. Not that she doesn't need, but that this is how he CHOOSES to spend her time, when she doesn't need to.
Because she can make good money just walking around in decent weather. She probably only does it like 6-8 months of the year and only when not raining.
Kind of reminds me of all the celebs that get caught shop lifting. It's like their status quo is so monotonous to them they have to do this crap to break it.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:47:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My neighbor has a nice car, a big house, and goes on vacation every year with his family. I don't know why he goes to work every day--he has money!
That's what makes the least sense to me. Not that she doesn't need, but that this is how he CHOOSES to spend her time, when she doesn't need to.
This is actually really simple to me I'm surprised more people don't see it. Trump has had this same problem at time. Asset rich, cash poor. All your cash is tied up in this or that. Your car. Your home. Some business. Investments that require more time to become accessible. I bring up Trump cause he's got a quote where he's telling his daughter a homeless guy in NY with a quarter in his bucket has more cash than Trump had access to at the time. Debts and obligations. This was likely a faster way, and cheaper way, to get cash, and not lose out on things like disability for making too much money, by getting it in a way where you don't have to report it.
Exactly. Around Minneapolis there are a ton and I worked at Catholic Charities for a while and most of them lived at a facility where they can drink. (All chronic alcoholics) they 100% spend the money on booze. Just feeding their habit.
Oh yeah, several intersections on the way to work have 4 people there every day, especially on Minnehaha. I also work across from a liquor store, so I see drunks come shuffling along to pick up their cheap booze and shuffle back. I've had to call ambulances and cops on them every so often as they pass out, get into fights, and just be disruptive to the neighborhood.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:05:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should seek help, seriously.
bgovern ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:11:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here in Albuquerque nearly every corner has multiple people begging almost 24/7. I see some of them wearing their Patagonia jackets with their North Face backpacks sitting nearby. It has to be lucrative or people wouldn't do it.
Hwang, along with his research partner, Rohit Bose, found that panhandlers in their city made (not adjusted for inflation or currency differences) about $30 a day from panhandling, and $300 a month. That's the median. While some panhandlers probably make far more or far less than that, any supposition that they're raking it in, according to the Toronto guys who've really looked at this, is just a supposition.
...
My results (which are unscientific) seemed to be in line with what Bose and Hwang found in Toronto: No one's getting wealthy by panhandling.
Learn to read, it will save you embarrassment in life
Some people who beg, are homeless, and can make around $300/day (Montreal paper). Others have apartments/homes and possibly jobs/or on welfare, but do it for extras cash (which is untaxable).The ones in that article lived under an overpass.
Also, quite a few young people who do this (US paper), are from well-off families. Some of these people will eat free meals at shelters, while they travel across the US.
It really helps if you're a moderately attractive girl.
I work with this guy, a real cheap bastard with everything. But one day he was out and this girl comes up crying about how she lost her train ticket to DC and she needs money to get a new one so she can get home. Dumb fuck gave her $20. She hit him up again with the same sob story a few weeks later.
She hit me up with it before but I told her to fuck off. If I feel bad for any beggers it's the late 30's and 40's ones because society just doesn't give a shit about giving that demographic charity.
my boss made a great point the other week when we saw someone panhandling on a corner in Denver...I asked him, "wouldn't that be boring? Why don't they just get a job?" and he replied, "they wouldn't be doing it if they weren't making good money."
It's kind of sad, I stopped giving my money to homeless people for about 6 months now.
hybroid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:48:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Beggars in London make about ยฃ50,000 a year give or take. Tax free. That's more than the majority of working class people.
ir0bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lived in Denver for 10 years, and there was this one particular intersection I went through often that was always populated by a youngish looking homeless woman. Then the next day it would be a different woman, and third woman the day after that. Eventually there was a story in the paper about this group of women who were students at University of Denver (a super expensive school), who took turns rubbing some dirt on their faces, putting on the rags, and panhandling at the corner. That was their full-time job and it paid enough for them to afford their tuition, and with their combined resources, they roomed together in a super expensive, upscale apartment.
After the story came out, I never saw them there again.
Dementia? There was a woman who looked/acted homeless in a town I worked in selling Pizzas. She actually owned a nice house, but her husband was gone. I don't think she begged, though people offered her money.
The problem with this sort of ambush "journalism" is she could easily owe more on the car than its worth, so selling it could be bad versus just not paying until its repossessed, and hoping you'll get a job before that happens.
A professor in Boston did it as an economics experiment. He got like $60k/yr out of it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
About 10 years ago there was a news segment on the local Sacramento Fox Affiliate where they investigated this. One of the people admitted they would spend their weekends by going to San Fran and just panhandling all day.
They said it would get them fresh air, exercise and a bunch of tax free income. These people were working typical 9-5 office jobs
I work and live in Toronto and there are a few cases like this, you know which people are the regulars
One of my coworkers used to occasionally chat with a pan handler who always sat in front of my office. He said he could usually pull in 300-400 cash a day, and had an apartment a few blocks away with a big screen TV etc etc. Guy even had an iPhone. Of corse when his "shift" was over he would hop onto to bus and tell the guy he had a bad day collecting to get a free fare
That said he wasn't without his issues. He would sometimes disappear for weeks at a time and when you saw him again he would tell you he had saved up 5k and went on a cocaine bender with a friend
Stand outside for an hour, two people give you $10 bills. You just made $20 in one hour (in cash), more than the vast majority of Americans. If you stand outside for a few hours, you'll probably average that. All just from standing outside and having no shame.
They can make a killing. Some dude in Norway pretended to be homeless for a week a while back. He sat on a bridge connecting the train- and buss station in the capital. He made 35,000 NOK in a week, which is about $4,200.
Nauvio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine almost disowned his mother when he found out she was using his 2 year old sister. According to him she made over $1k USD a weekend because of the baby.
Unfortunately, panhandling in some areas can earn you more money than an entry-level job. Sometimes it can even earn a decent living. Plus, as already mentioned, its tax-free. I have a former friend who traveled the country begging for money and gas. When he got home I learned that he still had several hundred dollars in the bank. Some people just have no morals and will do anything for money.
It's drugs, their partner cuts them off financially but doesn't know what to do to get them better so they go panhandle to get money for drugs and alcohol
dbx99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1) you get some money (but obviously, there isn't a need for it, so it's not the chief motivator)
2) you get SYMPATHY. People are nice. People will roll down their windows and will give you a dollar but also some really comforting words. I suspect this person got addicted to it. This outpouring of love from strangers.
3) you feel like you're living out some kind of martyr fantasy. This implies some mental and emotional problems you need to get counseling for.
4) hey get some sun!
Renimar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remember, in Canada there are $1 and $2 coins so reaching into your pocket and dumping change can get net a panhandler more than you think in Toronto.
They do. There's a surprising amount of people who do this, actually. It's tax-free money, it's easy money, and you wouldn't believe how much income some people get doing this. We had a problem with non-homeless "homeless" people in my area a while back that really exposed the issue, though I can't say it was ever resolved.
For a while last summer two teenage girls would sit off a busy freeway exit on the bumper of their car with a sign that said out of gas. They were there about a week before I saw the cops talking to them one day omw home.
People have given financial reasons but I think it might be a slightly deeper thing.
The only reason I can come up with would be that they want people to feel sorry for them. In a world where they already have all the money they could ask for, are successful, and are rarely ever looked down upon, they crave that sense of unconditional love you get from a stranger helping you in a time of need.
I can't imagine someone that successful would do it simply for MORE money, that seems like low hanging fruit to me... seems more like a psychological thing where they want sympathy so bad they'll delve into extremes to get it, even if it isn't authentic.
bakela ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Talking to a guy in the suburbs of Vancouver, he said his record for panhandling is $300 in a day and he hits $200 once every few weeks.
Because you obviously don't understand how much money a person can make in a day on the right corner. You can have $500-$1000 days doing this. Find a busy intersection, dress and look like a bum with a sign and run window to window. extra points if your a child or women.
I guarantee you this isn't happening unless they're an extremely talented musician or another kind of street performer. Source: Live in NYC and hardly see anyone giving money to homeless people.
talones ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:18:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They do it so they can afford $1million mansion. Cleaning car windshields at crossroads is also lucrative business.
zzy335 ยท 1424 points ยท Posted at 17:05:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hah this was the 'shaking woman' at Yonge and St. Clair. She was a local celebrity and EVERYONE gave her their change. She never spoke, she just sat on the corner of a very busy intersection and acting as though she had a neurological disorder. She did this for years and collected hundreds of dollars per day. She was actually well liked. So one day a Toronto Sun reporter followed her home. After she did her shaky disabled walk to the St Clair subway, she took it to the outskits of town, threw away all the food she had been given, and her walk was miraculous fixed when she changed out of her begging clothes and jumped into a mercedes SUV, owned by her husband. The day that story ran she was never seen or heard from again. People were absolutely furious as she had totally fooled everyone.
That kind of makes me think about people who fake illnesses in general, for sympathy or attention but a step up the chain into conning people for cash.
Like there's probably some sort of underlying mental issues but mostly they know what they are doing.
A dude I've seen at my old regular bar would act deaf and hand out pamphlets with common hand signs, and would ask for a donation.
After the marks would leave, he talked completely normally and laughed about it. We at the bar are a working class bunch and he nearly got his ass kicked as he was told never to return by the owner.
Same bar, a girl was in the parking lot with a kitten, saying it was starving and she just wanted to get him some food. I offered to buy some across the street at the minimart, but she wouldn't do it. I told her she better damn well feed that cat or I would personally kick her ass. And I better not see her anywhere around the bar again. I couldn't just take the cat or anything and I was NOT giving her money.
edit: SPOILER (also shame on you if you haven't seen the film already)
[deleted] ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 18:07:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The day that story ran she was never seen or heard from again. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world she did not have a home. And like thatโฆ she is gone.
Fixed it for him.
dshoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:10:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Naw man you have to look at it like this: all that begging and some random rich dude decided to marry her Cinderella style and give her a fresh start. IT'S A MIRACLE!
Did you ever hear of Langdon Reid? The journalist who uncovered it? He ended up going missing 14 days after the story went to print. I mean fucking gone. Never heard from, never seen, nothing. Which strikes me as odd - I mean, you come off one of the biggest expose stories in the city, you're gonna move up, a story that would make a career and vanishes. They suspect it ended up much worse for him, but have no proof it occurred.
So strange. She's not doing it for the money, clearly. Maybe she just likes the theatrics. Or it's a way to interact with people because she's lonely. Well, or maybe she just feels useless not working and can't find a job. Or she won't demean herself working a job as "herself," where people will know it's her and think she's going through hard times or something while she's not.
[deleted] ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 17:14:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got it!!! If we stop donating money, then there won't be any homeless. It's genius!!!
Donate it to homeless shelters or food banks that can inturn provide food and shelter. Else you run major risk of directly feeding an addiction or sometimes scammers.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:42:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. The Shakey Lady. She used to sit on a blanket outside the Bloor/Yonge subway station with a sign that said "Please Help. God Bless" and just...shake. She was actually a really pitiful sight and you'd often see her blanket covered in loonies, toonies, even fives and tens. Then a reporter from the Toronto Sun followed her to her Dodge Escalade, tailed her to her upscale condo in Mississauga, and exposed her. It turned out that she was not only fake, but she was also selling instructional videos online to her home country showing people how to make money panhandling in Canada.
ckozler ยท 227 points ยท Posted at 17:04:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is big in Boston too that I learned. I legitimately saw a beggar get up and walk over to a Mercedes Benz and get in and drive way. I'm willing to bet someone didnt drop those keys in their cup.
I'm not sure if he's still there, but there used to be a guy in Boston who would basically walk from Back Bay to the Financial District everyday begging for cash while walking his massive dog, which I believe was a Newfoundland. My dad saw this guy all the time but never gave him money because "poor people don't own Newfies," which I would say is objectively true given the amount of food they eat. He saw the guy get dropped off by a private driver/limo one day near BPL and pretty much has his suspicions confirmed.
There was a guy that would stand just off Copley by a store 24 in the 90's I saw get into a BMW. He was there daily.
Another dude I saw in chinatown day after day on the same corner. Never said a word and never asked for money. Just sat on the same corner all day. I never figured out what his deal was. I just assumed someone owed someone money and he sat outside the business all day as a threat or something... still bugs me almost 20 years later.
I got one for you. There's a lady in downtown Montreal who walks on those European style crutches and asks for people to help her cross the street.
My friend and I unknowingly almost saw some woman fall for it when a random additional person approached them and said that it was a scam, and that she steals your wallet while you are trying to carry her across the street. She then started yelling in French and swinging her crutches at the person who called her out.
A woman in trouble (especially playing the role of a sweet disabled homeless woman) pushes the compassion level to extremes and causes people to donate more than they would a typical homeless man. It can be very lucrative as shown in the video.
There is also the fake buddhist monk that was a pretty popular scam a few years ago. They push a worthless medallion on you and ask for money. How can you refuse a monk?
Ive had a british guy come to me asking for money for gas (mind you this was downtown with no gas station around), his car was out of gas a few blocks away and was looking for 10$ to buy a canister so he can go back. He was decently dressed and showed he had quids but no one would take it (this is in Canada) I gave him 2$.
2 weeks later he comes up to me again, with the exact same story clearly forgetting he did this on me before. I let him do his whole speech, wallet waving act, I told him he needs to use a new line if he wants to try to scam people a second time.
Also like the squeegee kids in Toronto fiasco where there were a bunch of "homeless" kids who forcibly cleaned peoples car wind shields at stop lights and demand money after.
The Mayor launched a war against them and had the police arrest them on the street corners where they worked. It turns out that majority of the kids lived in mansions and had well off parents who had no idea their kids were going out and pretending to be homeless youth.
My great uncle has a LOT of money. He's told me about a few times where he's been traveling in a different city or country and pretended to be homeless for the day to see who would give him money. Only difference was that when people gave him something he'd give them $100 and tell them to keep being a nice person.
ylsf ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:30:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was this shaky lady or someone else? I am forgetting who is who, I think shaky lady just had a nice apartment/etc and she didn't even "shake" normally and just put it on as an act to get peoples money.
Pretty sure that was the "shaky lady" - as in her shtick was tremors and age. After the Sun exposed her, she took off to MTL and continued her shenanigans. The same damn reporter caught her there too.
http://www.tribemagazine.com/board/threads/husslin-homeless.5073/
Sadly I can't find any of Mike Strobel's old articles, just the Tribe forum. Further aplogies that I also can't locate a related post from Mike and his Montreal dealings with her.
The pink-haired homeless woman in the Appleton area was also featured here on reddit, and reading the comments about people who actually ask you to go to an ATM for them.
Then, a day later on Friday of last week, I get a white dude in a nice truck at the gas station ask me for a couple bucks and I said I don't carry cash, he then asked me to put $5 on my card for him please for gas - remembering the thread, I just told him sorry, no.
Feels bad sometimes having to turn someone down who may really need the help, and it infuriates me when I see the players out doin' their thang.
jcchef ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:35:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think i remember this one. She had a driver drop her off and pick her up and load her wheelchair she didnt need into the trunk everyday. Heard she was caught and eventually owed a huge amount of unpaid taxes on years of panhandling income.
Happened here in hamilton. A woman "panhandled" using her disability. Someone followed her and watch her get into a super expensive car and drive to a huge house. She was exposed in the newspapers and on TV. A couple of months later she showed up in Toronto doing the exact same thing. She was exposed again and I think she just sort of disappeared. People are fucked
cotch85 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:01:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know morally this is wrong, but is it actually illegal? I'm glad she these people get exposed, but is it actually illegal? If not, then i don't see what the deal is.
It's from 2002, I can't find the original article but it's mentioned here since there was a new scammer of the same nature. But this lady is called shaky lady apparently, if you wanna search.
I had this one "homeless" guy beg from me, and he must have forgot that he was carrying freshly dry-cleaned dress clothes.
My policy is to start at my own doorstep, and get to know the needy people in an expanding radius from there. Offer attention, acquaintance, interest, and then see if I can do anything to help them.
If it pays that much, why don't you quit your job and go do it? These stories about rich beggars exist to assuage your guilt. They don't need to be true, or even make sense, it just needs to make you feel validated in doing what you were going to do anyway.
I live in Virginia too, and it's crazy how many pan handlers I see on my commute. The sad thing is, pan handling is usually more profitable than if these people just worked at retail or food services.
[deleted] ยท 895 points ยท Posted at 17:00:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to live in Charlottesville. Panhandlers were literally at every intersection year-round. I used to be the kind of person to cave easily and give somebody money who was asking for it, but if I would have given money to everybody who was asking me for money I would be broke right now.
I tried to be kind hearted and would offer to take a person begging for money to supposedly buy food into the nearest fast food restaurant and get them something, but after doing this probably 10 or so times, I only had one person ever actually go inside with me. The rest of them insisted on cash and then hurled profanities at me when I refused.
I specifically remember one guy approaching me who did not look homeless and he started chatting me up on the downtown mall. Charlottesville's a very liberal and friendly place, so I thought this guy was just looking to talk. I had my Bose noise cancelling headphones around my neck and he started asking me about them and how I liked them. We talked for about 10 minutes and then at the very end he asked in a very coy way if I had any cash to give him because he was hungry. I told him no and then a dark look came over his face and told me that I was a bitch ass mother fucker and then he stormed away. Fucking asshole.
I lived in Philadelphia, and this was definitely a problem then. Panhandlers had places to go if they needed, and you could tell the legit homeless. But you'd see people like the above woman, and they knew to pick their targets.
There was a huge guy who used to hang outside Tower Records and go up to women only (his size was intimidating) and they'd hand him cash without hesitating just so they could keep walking. This guy was out there every night for about two years until he got busted.
He was on a busy intersection. I imagine the guy was able to make $50+ an hour. If not more.
Northern Virginian here. There's a street like five minutes away from my house which is PACKED with these people every day. The owner of a nearby dry cleaners told me that he sees these fakes arrive and organize each morning. It's ridiculous and could become even more if a problem if the skepticism they procure winds up catching actual homeless people in the fray.
I've bounced between Reston, Herndon and Manassas for the past few years, and (thankfully) not seen that. The one thing I do see is people at gas stations always begging for gas. It's always the same "I forgot my wallet" story, and it... frustrates me. It frustrates me because I've been in that situation, but I can't quite tell if people are being honest, telling the truth, or are just trying to squeeze out some cash for a free tank.
ninguen ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 18:17:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A young woman asked me for money to buy milk for her baby, and I told her that I would go to buy milk with her, she told me "no no no, that would take very long", I insisted that I wasn't going to give her money but if she really needed the milk I would buy it for her... she started getting very rude, so I walked away... and she yelled at me.
On the contrary, yesterday there was this young man juggling at a traffic light and I had a spare apple so I offered it to him and he was so happy :) made my day
All too used to it by now. Being a native San Franciscan has led to me interrupting anyone who approaches me with a loud, stern "nope" with hard eye contact.
It's not even just that I'd be broke if I gave em each a quarter, I seriously don't have enough time in my day for all their spiels.
C'mon man, I just need like $20 to get to Tennessee on a greyhound cause my brother got in jail and I gotta hide the evidence because he got like 20 kids and that's a lot of .youths to feed...
I was finishing grad school and found a cheep place to rent for my last few months. There was a guy already living there in another room but I didn't get to meet him before I signed the lease.
Turns out hes living there, 40 years old and jobless, with his rent paid by his parents while collecting welfare checks. He spent his days sitting downtown panhandling with homeless/hungry signs. I ended up having him evicted but mommy just got him another place to rent while he stole from the community.
Moral of the story is, I don't give handouts directly to homeless. I'll donate to the food bank and shelters. Our panhandling is out of hand. 3-4 people on every corner and near whole foods every single day.
I was in Chicago recently and I saw the buy lunch instead of give cash backfire a little bit. We were walking into McDonalds and heard a gentleman talking to a panhandler. I heard them negotiating a food order. The gentleman came in shortly behind us and ordered the food. I saw him go outside and give the panhandler the food. Shortly after the gentleman walked away the panhandler came in demanding a refund and an upgraded meal because so much was wrong with his quarter pounder combo.
I try to see the good in people, but then I see interactions like that.
One time I was eating at Christian's pizza on the corner with a girl who was a friend of mine and this couple comes up to me and the guy (completely unsolicited) asks me for some cash so he can buy his wife a slice of pizza. Keep in mind his "wife" is wearing a fucking North face coat and just stared at me angrily.
I wanted to tell them to fuck off but I didn't want to look like a dick in front of the girl I was with so I gave him $2 and felt like such an idiot. They probably saw me and thought I was on a date and there was no way I could say no, which ended up being the case I guess.
I was actually driving back to Jax from Panama City yesterday, and I'm dressed somewhat nicely, as I had just had a buisiness casual lunch with friends before I had left. I'm sitting in a Taco Bell at this point, getting a quick snack for the last half of the trip, and a guy with earbuds in walks up, trying to look like he isn't focused on approaching me, but clearly is. I did my usual nod with a greeting of some sort, and he strikes up a conversation about how he could use some jumper cables. I tell him I dob't have any, and go back to my soda, thinking it was the end of it. He begins to go into a whole different story about his 22 years in the service, and asks where I'm from. Me being polite, I tell him from Jax, then he proceeds to go on about how his wife has his car, and he has hers, and she's in Jax visiting family and so on. My immediate reaction mentally screamed bullshit, especially when I told him I had to get going, right as I noticed he was going to ask for a ride. He tried to stop me multiple times, never bailed out of a Taco Bell so fast in my life.
Austin, TX here. Same problem. And I felt the same way you did, went through the same progression. Used to feel bad. Now I don't.
However, I still like to help those in need. So, I save my help for the holidays. That person out on Christmas or Thanksgiving Day? Probably needs a bit of help - or, at the very least, is dedicated enough to come out while the rest of the world enjoys the holiday. So I find a particularly needy looking panhandler on a holiday and toss a couple hundred bucks their way. It's my charity contribution for the year, and it makes their day.
Can confirm. Currently attending UVA and I walk passed the same homeless people on the corner almost every single day. You can only rely on other people's help so much before they stop feeling bad for you because you don't even try to help yourself.
Wow, what an asshole. Such an asshole! I know the type. You described him well. I really enjoyed reading your comment. Such a great comment. You write so well. The story you wrote resonated with me on a deep level... I think you and I have a lot in common. I really do. I hope you can appreciate that I'm not a jerk either. Maybe we can be friends. Hey, by the way, you know, I'm a little light... You wouldn't happen to have any Reddit Gold on you would you?
I think it's a statement or the state of affairs when someone living off kindness in others can live lavishly, but a worker at the bottom rung will struggle to make ends meet. There is no incentive to stop panhandling. That's like taking a demotion.
charge- ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:40:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good panhandlers in major cities make something like 180 dollars an hour. Does that mean we should raise minimum wage to 180 dollars an hour?
The first link talks about a family of two adults and two children making $183 from begging hourly. That's about $45/h per person, though I'd suspect the 5 and 7 year old are bringing in most of it.
The Kentucky handler bragged he made 100k, but obviously thats an unverified claim. Even then, it would only be $48/h.
The third is also an unverified claim (and the dude who made the claim, Will Andersen, hasn't been seen begging since), from The New York Post, which is a pile of sensationalist garbage. This was a story they put on a cover, so there's no doubt it's hammed up.
Do we have actual evidence or just anecdotes. These people could be easily lying or the very rare exception. http://www.snopes.com/do-panhandlers-make-50-an-hour/ points out that the real evidence that people have collected shows that most of them make like $20-50 a day, and in Toronto, only about $300 a month.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Since when is the minimum wage dependent upon how much a person can make panhandling? That is about the most ridiculous economic argument I've heard in awhile. But I will bet you have no grasp of economics, do you?
If someone can make more standing on street corners with a sign that a minimum wage worker can working a full time job then there's something wrong. At no point did I claim a direct correlation, nor did I act like I was some economics genius or even try to put it in economic terms. I was making an observation of the plight of minimum wage workers and offered it as an argument for the case of minimum wage increase. Where is the incentive to work if I can pull that in chilling by traffic lights?
duhhuh ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:58:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say it is a much stronger indicator to the amount of disposable income and empathy (gullibility?) of the area.
If someone can make more standing on street corners with a sign that a minimum wage worker can working a full time job then there's something wrong
And yet few people that aren't super poor are begging. So it's stupid to argue that our current min wage needs to be higher because of pandhandling. There are real economic arguments to be had, yours is not
Some panhandlers can make $30/hr+. Guess we should raise the mine wage to $40/hr
Y'all are really taking what I say to the extremes. There is a middle ground. At $8.25 that's just not a living wage. If a bum can make more than a worker, instead of seeing it like I'm saying the worker should make as much as the bum, see it as me saying the worker shouldn't look over and envy the bum. They should make a living wage. You and the other debaters are giving me hyperbolic numbers from your 30-50/hr to someone else saying a million a year. There is a middle ground. You guys are acting like you're either poor or rich, earning pennies or Benjamins.
If a bum can make more than a worker, instead of seeing it like I'm saying the worker should make as much as the bum, see it as me saying the worker shouldn't look over and envy the bum.
Good panhandlers can make $30/hr. So what? Why should the min wage increase because panhandlers make $30/hr? It would take something close to $30/hr min wage so they aren't jealous. Furthermore, regardless of what panhandlers make, it's beyond stupid to base any economic policy on that. Unless you had HUGE populations giving up jobs to panhandle, then it has no purpose in this discussion.
You Bernie supporters always give republicans a hard time about ignoring facts and logic....stop doing the same shit because you're embarrassing our left
Ok then, here's a fun game. I call out sick to work today and decide to go stand on a street corner instead. Luckiest day of my life: a really, really good samaritan takes pity on me and hands me a briefcase stuffed with hundreds. I am now a millionaire.
How much should minimum wage be? $1,000,000/hour, or just $1,000,000/year?
I've responded to plenty of commenters, but when the same argument is made a few times I present my side to the top comment for the sake of continuity. You can just click on my name and see if I've responded or present a different viewpoint and I'd be happy to debate this further. You may even convince me.
yeoller ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:45:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They were saying when it seems more profitable to beg, people will beg instead of doing legit work.
I will bet you have no grasp of economics, do you?
Certainly not as weak of a grasp on economics as you seem to have. This is economics 101. When the supply of "free money" is greater than the demand for labor... the price of labor goes up.
Do you have any research on the belief that the the US min wage should be raised due to potential revenues some small individuals can make via panhandling???
I made no such claim. When certain states and cities decided to legitimize panhandling they put those people in direct competition with minimum wage employers. In order to bring those people back into the workforce those areas would either need to raise the minimum wage to a point where it makes more sense to have a job than to beg or to recriminalize panhandling. Raising the national minimum wage would certainly be a brute-force method of solving the issue, but it is something that only occurs where panhandling is legal and therefore an unnecessary leap.
When you decriminalize panhandling you create an incentive for people to "fake it" because there is no consequence. In an area where it is criminalized only the truly needy are going to be doing it. The proper way to handle them is not necessarily to arrest them, but identify them and get them into the programs that will provide help.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:13:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. My graduate level Law and Econ classes haven't given me the ability to understand this. Gotcha. One has nothing to do with the other. A minimum wage job is never intended to be a living wage job. It is intended to be entry level often part time work so that someone can gain work experience and move up to actual living wage jobs. And if an employer can't justify paying someone more to do the job because the economics don't justify it, you don't raise the wage. It wasn't until the liberal left got their hands on this, most of whom haven't even dipped their toe in the water of the free market, created this fiction that the minimum wage was supposed to be a living wage. You are frankly wrong.
To be blunt, nothing you just wrote is correct in any way. When you legalize panhandling you put those people in direct competition with minimum wage employers. The only way for the employers to bring those people back into the workforce to fill minimum wage jobs in those places is to increase the compensation. This would quite literally be the free market in action. You want to force the market to correct itself in the other direction, where the action of legitimizing panhandling has changed the local labor market in a way you no longer control.
It wasn't until you thought left/right wing politics had anything to do with true economics that you completely lost touch with reality. Your alleged education didn't teach you do be dispassionate to poor and uneducated people, your preconceived biases did.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever. You have no idea how I help the poor and I really don't give a shit what you think I know or don't know, do or don't do.
It was indeed the left that glommed on to raising the minimum wage with the argument that it was to be a living wage. And your free market argument is bullshit also. If the market drove min wage workers to panhandle instead, we'd see a lot more panhandlers than people trying to better themselves through more traditional means.
Panhandling isn't legal in many places, which is why you don't see so many of them.
You don't have to get angry, you certainly wouldn't if you have the economic education to back up your arguments. Or are you a trial lawyer? Or are you a research chemist? You tell a lot of stories.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of it is true. I'm a licensed practicing attorney and a published research chemist with two patents. That leads to running a few businesses.
Thanks for looking up my history. That's not creepy at all.
You probably don't understand that law and economics are very related. In fact Posner and Easterbrook are among the leading judicial economists in the world.
When you start and run businesses, you'd better have an economics background.
I can assure that most of those commenters on this thread have no economic background and I actually enjoy getting into it with people who clearly have no idea what they're talking about.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...Or maybe you didn't, and making assumptions completely irrelevant to the conversation about others' political affiliation in order to fallaciously try and discredit their claims, is just a pretty shit thing to do.
Why not just directly refute his argument with proper economic counter-arguments if you don't agree with him? Instead of directly attacking someone for their "you don't now real economics" and "you're probably a Bernie supporter" and "I have an MBA and thus I'm automatically right and you're automatically wrong". Those aren't logical arguments at all, and you haven't refuted anything of what he said in any real tangible way, only personal attacks and appeal to your so-called authority. Which isn't even verifiable, since everyone has a PhD on the internet. If you truly do, I don't see why it'd be so hard to easily try and shortly explain why you disagree with him, with clear sound economic arguments and theoretical proof.
No, I''m left wing and have never voted for a Republican. But the stupidity of arguing that min wage needs to be addressed because of panhandling is only something far left individuals would argue. It is not based on facts nor even logic. It's beyond stupid.
Now, if I argued "We shouldn't have a min wage at all", then it would be a good guess to say "you voted for Trump".
Why not just directly refute his argument with proper economic counter-arguments if you don't agree with him?
I did elsewhere. He wont' provide an research that would back up his claims nor will he give a sound logical explanation based on facts.
Instead of directly attacking someone for their "you don't now real economics" and "you're probably a Bernie supporter" and "I have an MBA and thus I'm automatically right and you're automatically wrong". Those aren't logical arguments at all, and you haven't refuted anything of what he said in any real tangible way, only personal attacks and appeal to your so-called authority.
The purpose was to demonstrate that Bernie Sander supporters don't really understand economic issues. The guy couldn't back up his views with research or facts & logic. Bernie supporters get a pass too often on Reddit for ignorance on economic issues. It should be challenged and pointed out where Bernie economics is wrong...unless you want to remain ignorant for ideological reasons.
MrTrevT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't you didn't graduate high school, I guarantee it.
Got an MBA. But sure, lets make the very stupid argument that min wage needs to be higher because some small number of individuals can make more money from panhandling
MrTrevT ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:07:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't make any argument. Just making baseless claims the same way you are.
The guy is arguing EXACTLY like Bernie does. I guarantee you that most people upvoting his stupid argument are Sander supporters
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a doctorate and own three businesses and there is no way I would have voted for Bernie because socialism has a finite life that usually ends up with economy fizzling out and those connected with the government class being the only ones to make it through. You youngsters are really gullible and easily led to believe that knowledge is the same as wisdom.
tianan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or doing so will cause fewer jobs and more beggars
Who told you it would decrease the number of jobs? You know the minimum wage has been increased before right? There are a plethora of studies showing the effects of a wage increase. It doesn't decrease jobs. It doesn't shoot up the whole amount over night, it takes months/years. You don't shock the economy but you have a destination with set dates in mind.
I live in NoVa and the pan handling is insane. You can't stop at a red light without someone asking for money. But the homeless population is also huge here. There's homeless camps everywhere- you can see them from 95. I never know who to give money to anymore...
I scoff at your Virginia panhandlers. I can't remember the last time I was able to stop for gas to visit a convenience store without being panhandled. -Florida man
Anecdotal from NJ, but I see a pan handler at a busy intersection every day (Not necessarily the same person), and I've never seen anyone give them money. They hold their sign, walk along the cars stopped at the red light, and when it goes green, he walks back to the start. There's a concrete divider in the middle he walks on. It's a 6 lane road, 3 each way.
Though certainly I can understand panhandlers in some places making bank. I just don't see it here.
twinsea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They cracked down on pan handling in Loudoun Virginia as we kept getting pan handlers from different states commuting up here. They would literally stay at a hotel and spend months pan handling. You are now unable to pan handle without a permit. You notice OPs car is from Maryland and she is pan handling in Richmond. They migrate to well off areas with lax panhandling laws.
ninguen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My SO told me about this man from his town who made 100โฌ/day begging for money at a traffic light... that's 2000โฌ/month free of taxes, given that he only "worked" on weekdays...
Ugh...I just... the absolutely CRINGEY feeling watching her squirm and looking to random strangers for help knowing that her big ploy has been exposed. This is harder to watch than Scott's Tots.
Thank y'all so much!!!! I really wondered if I was the only person who couldn't watch that episode again. When I saw it for the first time my buddy just died laughing, and I was like "Dude, this is fucking awful". The worst part is knowing we've all promised things before we knew we couldn't back up, and that episode shows us what happens if it were to ever come back on us.
Nothing is harder to read than another forced thread on Scot's Tots. I mean, I've read through the entire reddit upwards of 7 times and every time I get to another Scot's Tots thread I want to rip my fucking eyeballs out. Seriously, it's so cringe worthy someone should make a subreddit dedicated to it. /r/CantReadScotsTotsComments
I think the speech michael makes at Jim and Pam's wedding is a close second.. he goes on talking about unprotected sex in front of children and old people alike. It's just awful.
While he's funny as hell, I think Michael Scott overall as a character is just so cringe-worthy. I mean, all of his interactions with women, his attempts to look important, just all of it has some sort of cringeworthiness to it.
Vanck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:12:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are not the only one by a long shot. I skip this episode every time too. It's so hard to watch. I cringe just thinking about it
Same! I am currently rewatching for the 8th or 9th time (not all seasons every time, since when I originally watched it there were less seasons), I've lost count, but I have no intention to watch Scott's Tots. I barely made it through the first time, never again.
aveeight ยท 1466 points ยท Posted at 16:47:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love people's reaction to being filmed. "McDonalds drive thru worker, why are they filming me!!??!!" The guiltier they are, the more inane their reaction is.
Nothing that outrageous really. Lots of people driving drunk or stoned as hell. People constantly grinding their cars on the wall because they can't drive but need to reach the window. People who think it's funny to try to suprise us by, for instance (girls) driving through topless. Couples getting into end of relationship level arguments because one of them (usually the woman) can't decide what she wants and is holding up 15 cars behind her, or something equally ridiculous (though frustrating as hell, because now the argument is holding people up). Some really angry people, but it seldom gets physical. I've had someone shout at me about putting pickles on burgers as if he wanted me to go to the U.N. and get it banned. Not just his burger, all burgers. People constantly trying to become your friend in 30 seconds and then immediately trying to leveraging it to get free stuff. You know those things you use to slice cucumbers and such? Well, being a busy shitty place, obviously the safety guard goes missing and obviously it doesn't get replaced, but the cucumbers still need slicing. One of my co-workers lost the sking of the palm of her hand and fingers. I say lost, it was held on at the wrist, and they sowed it back up (That's not a drive through story though). A lot of people who assume because you work there, you're an idiot and they try to scam you when you give them their change:
Customer: "Hey I gave you $60 for that"
Me: "really, you gave me 3 $20 notes for a 12 dollar order?"
Customer: "Uh... yeah I did"
Me: "Reeeaaallly?"
Customer: "Yeah, I know I did."
Me: (to Boss) "Boss, we need to stop the entire drive through and count my till for this guy."
Customer: "Uh, nevermind I just, uh, found it."
But one good one where a guy freaked out so hard (and was threatening and abusing staff) about missing the breakfast menu that he ended up fighting one of the big Polynesian night-shift cleaners. Bad idea. The biggest one just picked him up and dropped him on his head in the parking lot. Ambulance was called, but it turned out he had just come from somewhere else where the cops had been called on him so his friends piled him in the car and they drove off.
Generally just low level stuff, but often enough that if this had happened it would just be a Tuesday.
10am drunk people, I had a man introduce me to his wife which was a duffle bag, airhorns. During lunch/dinner rush everyone in the drivethru is hungry, which makes them more likely to be irrational, after dark the drunks show up in high numbers and we all know how that goes.
I'm pretty sure they don't have to as there's no reasonable right to privacy while working at the drive through line at a McDonald's.
Heck, I'm not even sure if McDonalds would object. This doesn't make them look bad.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:09:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why are you under the incorrect impression that consent is ever a necessary component to displaying a video?
georog ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:21:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't claim it was illegal (though it most certainly is in certain states), but it would've been the decent thing to do - at least blur her face.
EDIT: The link above indeed only applies to private conversations. In the German speaking area, however, the situation is different: there's a notion of copyright for pictures that you're on (Recht am eigenen Bild) - if the picture shows you as one of only a few people (as opposed to a group of people), and you're clearly recognizable, then whoever took the video/picture needs your permission to publish that material.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:03:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to point out that it says in the link you provided that it would not be illegal in Washington for this recording to have happened without her consent. There is no expectation for the conversation to be private, there is no privacy expected in a MacDonald's parking lot.
Looking at the Two-Party Consent Law states show the same thing. This is a public place with no expectation of being private, no recording was done without knowledge of it occurring. Is there something I'm missing? The link you provided disputes what you are saying.
I used to get drunk in Saratoga Springs, NY a lot and disappear from my friends. They'd invariably find me talking to this homeless busker I had grown attached to. He had a guitar and as far as I can tell that was about it.
That being said, the dude could play and he took requests and told stories. I'd give him 20 dollars and he'd play Neil Diamond and Johnny Cash for me. His vocals weren't the best but he made it work. Even walked 15 minutes to the gas station to buy him USA gold 100's several times.
Miss that guy.
Also fuck this lady.
[deleted] ยท 148 points ยท Posted at 17:57:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your story is better than the post you commented on. Upvoted.
Honestly that's a little concerning cuz it suggests he saw the story, got outraged, and decided to track this woman down to make his own video on it. The lady is shitty but you get the wrong person doing that and she's in danger of physical harm.
[deleted] ยท 122 points ยท Posted at 17:24:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are riding a fine line of doxxing rn. Careful.
Edit: I meant it is against community guidelines. Telling everyone on the Internet where she spanges is also a good way to incite violence against her. Jesus Christ get a grip reddit. may also be why the comments are locked.
Mtulncr ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:43:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone who lives in Richmond and saw the Broad St sign knows exactly where that is at. I know exactly where she begs for money. There is no doxxing. Anybody who knows the area can go see her themselves.
I was more curious about the un-blurred license plate on her car. Granted I have no idea what you could do with that information, but it's out there lol
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not personal information. That's an intersection. Name, phone number, actual residence would be personal. If there were a story about me and someone recognized me and said "hey I know him, frequently see him at publix." That wouldn't be doxing. So we're saying here, hey we know that lady. See her all the time at x and y streets.
even searching by the street names didn't make finding anything about her easier. only thing to find is this video. naming streets isn't even close to doxxing.
Well one can create their own content/editorial from a previously covered story. Nothing wrong with that. This is almost rule #1 for news organizations.
ttrublu ยท 148 points ยท Posted at 17:10:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He said that the local news had already covered the lady's scam on their morning segment or something.
I think he was implying that the story was viral, they made it sounds like a couple of local news outlets had picked up the story. Not sure why the said it though, the story wasn't viral.
Yeah these guys are assholes too. They are trying to hide behind "citizens justice" but seem very focused on how notable their contribution is.
Enverex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saying something's going to go viral in a video is painfully cringy. It's like people on r/iamsosmart and r/quityourbullshit saying that they're going to post it there as it's happening.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:52:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really understand why people care enough to follow her and record the interaction. Doesn't everyone know that most panhandlers aren't actually homeless? Just don't give money.
mcoulton ยท 8406 points ยท Posted at 16:53:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Akron Ohio , the panhandlers all have to wear permits to panhandle or are arrested, they have to prove they are in need
That's a disability too, you know? Feel free to beg for some money, maybe your local Drive Through employee can consult you in that personal finance related issue, they seem to be experts for everything.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
don't read them. eat them
dtrmp4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:34:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I eat them just fine. Reading dates is a much harder skill ;P
vlozko ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:38:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The panhandling problem in Worcester, MA got so bad that a city ordinance was passed. ACLU ended up suing and the city and won. The city had to pay half a million In legal fees.
Was gonna say, I've lived here over a year in the middle of downtown and out of the hundreds of bums asking me for money I've never seen one with a permit.
The google says that Ohio's panhandlers license is free to get, and just requires that people provide proof that they need financial help.
It's a physical badge that they wear that shows that they're working with the local government and police. According to what I've read, real homeless folk are in favor of the license, since it chases off the criminal element, like that woman there.
Hey, there are many affordable and accessible lease to own programs for newer garbage receptacles. Just because you're down in the dumps doesn't mean you need to be in a late model dumpster.
HBlight ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 17:58:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ho, man, I wish. Dumpster-brand trash bins are top-of-the-line. This is just a Trash-Co waste disposal unit.
look at Mr Rockefeller over here with his own dumpster, while i am here in the cold with nothing but my lint coat, whats a lint coat you ask? its years and years of lint and dirt picked from my belly button sewn together by the few body hairs and dignity i have left
Contrary to popular belief, most homeless individuals do have work. I don't know about panhandlers specifically, but most homeless have employment.
ben7337 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:50:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But then people who panhandle as a sole source of income who do well are going to still be able to claim need because it's their only source of income. Plus panhandlers get cash so they can easily hide most of their income.
ben7337 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:20:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only the ones shown online mainly, I ignore others, though I'm originally from one of the wealthiest counties in the country and know my dad would mention panhandlers at Walmart and other areas who would get into nice cars and drive off, personally I ignore anyone begging for money.
Isn't the whole point of having a job so you don't beg for change?
Scizmz ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:43:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depending on where you are, you can make more begging for change than working a minimum wage job. Several years ago a bum that would panhandle near where I worked was telling me he averaged $6.50 an hour doing that. Now keep in mind she probly makes double or tripple that as people will have more pitty on her cause she's a woman.
Yes, they do. They make bank, too. Some folks can earn upwards of $30/hr begging on the right street corner.
Why bother with a minimum-wage job when the loss of a few fucks results in earning something like $30/hr tax free?
I really like Akron's method. I wish every other city did that, as well.
Some people truly need the help. Most (I'd say) do not, and are only out there earning $ because they don't want to work for it another way.
Hell, I knew of a guy about 10 years ago who was on disability in a wheelchair, but didn't want to be at home all day, so he just begged for $ on a street corner. He routinely earned more doing that than he did from the government for his disability.
When minimum went up in my state, so did everything else.
Which came up first though? Often, the minimum wage is raised to match raising prices, so that minimum wage workers can actually live.
then the products the minimum wage workers produce have to go up in price in order to cover the raised wages they're being paid, and so then minimum wage workers can't actually afford anything again.
I saw a study about this. Statistically speaking the reason for your financial stress is housing. It used to be that we prided ourselves in spending less than 20% of our income to housing. Now housing accounts for 60% of our budget. Imagine that. That a majority of humans in America spend 60% of what they earn just to have shelter. Everything else has gone down. Everything except housing. Exponentially up.
All economic research shows that prices on goods and services only go up slightly with an increase in minimum wage.
The housing market would be almost completely unaffected by a reasonable minimum wage of 12 - 15 dollars per hour.
If you have a high paying job, but are being priced out to the point where you "practically have to beg" there may be several factors to this that has nothing to do with the increase in minimum wage such as increased demand for housing due to an increase of high paying workers (ie: workers making far above the minimum wage) or a mismanagement of your own funds.
Many people, if not most people, often increase their lifestyle as they increase in wage rather than maintaining a comfortable lifestyle at their old pay scale. This creates the artificial sense of a high wage not being enough. Because you can suddenly afford to live better does not mean that you should.
But there is no way that you have a "high paying job" and are being priced out because of a minimum wage increase. It is impossible. To price you out, they would make the minimum wage completely unlivable
There's tons of jobs and professions you can work under the table for like contracting/painting/landscaping/construction. What stops a dude netting $900 a week from panhandling after work?
Hahahaha yes I mean for the sake of utilizing social security as a way to check for employment
movzx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:37:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No system is going to be foolproof. You aim to cover 90% of the scenarios, not the 10%. It's why the "drug test welfare recipients!" stuff is such a waste of time and money. 90% of your effort and funds are being wasted trying to deal with an edge case.
new2bay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SSNs don't work that way.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably social security number and they run it to see if you're employed
Well, of course, I'm unemployed. I make like $200.00 a day panhandling on the streets. Duhh, silly goose.
tomz17 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:54:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The application process involves a visit to the police department where the panhandler answers a series of questions, including criminal history and telephone and address, if any. Those who have been convicted of violating the city statute more than once are ineligible for the ID card.
So they're literally making it illegal to beg for change if you didn't know you needed an official "I'm allowed to beg for scraps" card. That's incredibly fucked up.
We certainly shouldn't be acting like it's positive. "We fucked them over WAY harder, now we're only fucking people over slightly less hard" shouldn't be met with "Hey, that's great!".
Ronin1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:15:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Usually some kind of documentation as proof of homelessness. It can be provided by organizations that provide survival services to homeless people. Police officers that do community outreach and are familiar with the individual can do the same thing.
Source: I am a social worker that provides these services.
You actually have to bring someone with you to a public stairwell (any public stairwell will do, as I've noticed) and urinate in it.
Sybre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure why you're being so smug but homeless people can obtain banking documents too. It's not like they don't have a debit or credit card. Just because you're homeless doesn't mean you don't know how modern-day banking works.
dsquard ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 17:42:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And it helps them stay connected to society, which is, from what I understand, one of the most difficult hurdles to overcome once you're homeless and on the streets.
One problem worth noting is that a huge factor in homelessness is a combination of mental illness and ignorance/unwillingness to participate in such programs (which may itself stem from mental illness). I still saw German panhandlers in Germany, and my SO pointed out that they basically have the ability to receive a small apartment and modest amount of money relatively easily.
I have a legitimate question about this. I am offended that people like this lady stand outside and panhandle for people's money because they assume they are homeless. It's even worse if they are hold a sign when they really aren't in need. My girlfriend thinks this is fine "because they aren't FORCING people to give them money, they are willingly giving a gift."
Can someone please (without browbeating my girlfriend) tell me what's criminal about faking your economic status to take advantage of someone's generosity? It seems like a moral issue, not a legal one.
In general, aggressive panhandling is a solicitation made in person for immediate donation of money or other gratuity. This may be done by vocal appeal (asking, requesting, coercing (badgering), sympathy appeals, harassment, threats, or demands) or by nonvocal appeal (usage of signs or other signals gestures, postures, children, animals, or props such as toys and musical instruments). It is a habitual manipulative, coercive, or intimidatory use of another individual's sympathy, fear, guilt, or insecurity for monetary gain. Also, it is a form of emotional and financial abuse.
Housing costs a lot more than a piece of paper that says Certified Homelessโข
sadashn ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:56:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They do. There are emergency homeless shelters, shelters for people who need something longer term and, once you're working, programs that provide you heavily subsidized housing that require no deposit and don't charge rent for the first several months. Literally helped someone utilize all of these a few months ago. There's a legitimate route to getting off the street for those that want it; a lot of people just don't go through the effort of using those programs or would rather remain homeless. It's a culture/society of its own and many of them genuinely prefer it to the alternative of being a normal part of society.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a culture/society of its own and many of them genuinely prefer it to the alternative of being a normal part of society.
They're "keepin' it real".
duhhuh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which google? We have all 6 and I checked.
Valisk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is nova new idea, been used in England since th3 Napoleonic wars ended
Here in Quebec, we have most of our homeless that suffer from the deinstitutionalization of mental health center. Those people are, indeed, socially awkward and have some hard time even facing human interaction. So you imagine even getting to the city hall to get a paper. The point is, not any homeless are in this situation because of financial crisis or drug abuse and they might literally never get out of it without active support.
That said, I'm not aware of the Ohio program and action that this legislation also put in place. It could be the procedure for cops to hand them over to city hall and help them get the permit if they judge that this simple act would help them.
It could be the procedure for cops to hand them over to city hall and help them get the permit if they judge that this simple act would help them.
I would assume this is the case.
Here in Texas, the police will help transport homeless folk to help centers rather than arrest them. From what I understand, they hate arresting homeless, since they'd rather spend their time dealing with criminals, not homeless folk.
root88 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If homeless people were good at paperwork, they probably wouldn't be homeless.
That sounds like a pretty good idea to me - a bright yellow star badge would do the trick, though I'd be worried they could be misplaced or stolen. A tattoo would be more permanent. In fact, that would make it easier to provide them with shelter, almost like a camp. Why aren't more places doing this?
Wow, no one at all has made that really hilariously bad analogy yet. Good job.
But, just so people understand: You're comparing a panhandlers license to the star of david that the Nazis made the jews wear in the lead-up to the Holocaust.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not possible to prove a negative. You can't prove you don't have a job. What do you think happens when you get fired. "Ok, sir, here's your box of stuff, and here's your certification of unemployment to show to authorities while you beg for food."
I would want to see a study that shows the % of panhandlers that aren't homeless or poor. And I don't have any idea of that % would be. I'ld assume most panhandlers are homeless/poor. But I might be wrong.
IMO it is often pointless to make laws and rules which apply to a very small group or have a low percentage of happening. Like the Trolley problem when talking about self driving cars. (Do you crash the car and kill the driver or avoid the crash and kill people walking on the sidewalk).
Problems like that have such a low likely change of happening, that making laws and writing codes to address them just muddy the water and in terms of codes just creates more points of failure.
I wonder how many people are arrested for panhandling in Ohio and how much that cost the public in police time and resources. When I believe it probably is a crime that isn't worth the hassle.
Homeless people don't have access to the internet, they don't have a way to get to city hall. Some people say even the permitting small businesses need are prohibitively difficult, and those entities are no doubt better able to interact with the legal system. This is a way to catalogue and manage the homeless (which is either scary or useful, depending on your beliefs)
Gahvynn ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't see why they shouldn't be in favor of it. We have someone in my city that applied and got the license (again free where we live) and she was eventually exposed as she already had a paid for car and lived basically rent free with some relatives and in no danger of being run off and certainly wasn't going hungry. Yet she basically had the only spot to panhandle in the busiest intersection in the city I live in.
Yep pretty much. I have an aunt who hasn't had a full time job in 40 years because she has no skills and no work ethic but if she needs food or a payment from the government she knows how to get everything in 2 days. She tried explaining the process to me and I felt like a 4 year old hearing an attorney explain tax law.
Certainly doesn't apply to all homeless, but when substance abuse and physical addiction are at play most people jump through the hoops quite nicely. Working in salvage the customers we have that suffer from addiction tend to be the most polite, they want to get in, out, and check cashed as soon as possible with little hassle.
Ceremor ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A ton of homeless people are too mentally ill to form relationships or get a job. Fuck you they can't all just figure out where the government building is and stay competent enough to work through a process like this. A lot of them are out there precisely because because they need mental health help and they can't get it themselves. And a lot of them simply won't be able to navigate those hoops because of their inability to make rational decisions.
But no, let's pretend they're all a bunch of scoundrels who know how to work the system, and the rest of them that are too crazy to fill out the permit form, well they're just faking it anyway toss 'em in jail!
Most likely, while at the jail, they are then given a permit to panhandle. You really are an asshole. You're not 100% wrong but when you come across as an asshole, people are going to come away from what you said thinking "Man, what an asshole" and not "You know, he had some valid points".
Wow you sure injected a lot of bullshit subtext into my simple statement.
Sybre ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:33:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a bit shocking how everyone in this thread thinks they know everything about homelessness yet they probably been living in the upper middle class their whole life.
I knew a homeless man who was a mechanical engineer. He chose to be homeless. He never begged, but if he had, I'm sure he could figure out how to get a permit.
Tl:dr. Not all poor people are dumb.
Edit: downvoted for saying not all homeless people are dumb. Wow.
There are a lot of people making that choice, almost specifically because of the above. Having our lives dictated by bureaucrats, regulation, and technology can be a frustrating and demeaning existence. That's actually part of why I enjoy survivalism so much, despite being a head engineer at a major telecommunications company. Sometimes it's just necessary to "unplug", as cliche as that has come to sound. Some people just can't make that choice in moderation, so they're either always connected, or completely disconnect themselves permanently.
If my Wife and Dad were to die (before the Wife and I had kids), I'd not have anything technology based again. I'd do my very best to find a cabin in the woods that was secluded enough to be away but close enough to get food. This coming from someone who's addicted to technology.
B) Regardless, it's not the job of the state to alleviate all suffering of the people living in said state.
Ceremor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you never talked to a homeless person? It's pretty fucking self evident dude.
Also it is the job of the state to alleviate the people's suffering. That's a huge aspect of the state. Making life more tolerable is one of the founding principles of government for fuck's sake.
Have you never talked to a homeless person? It's pretty fucking self evident dude.
That's not a statistic, dude. That's called an anecdote, and is not a valid representation of a population.
Also it is the job of the state to alleviate the people's suffering. Making life more tolerable is one of the founding principles of government for fuck's sake.
Where are you deriving this from exactly? What principle are you referring to?
But then you're trusting the government to do the right thing and keep the permit process smooth and timely. Back in my home country sometimes if the government doesn't want you to do something thats legal but requires a permit they just drag their feet on the paperwork, or pretend to lose it and make you fill it out again and again, or slow you down in other ways, and its just not fair to homeless people who may not be able to find a job for whatever reason to basically choose between getting arrested because they're hungry, or just starving to death.
25546 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:50:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe the Akron municipal government isn't as corrupt as the one of your home country.
But then you're trusting the government to do the right thing
As people do daily, it's called living in a society.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, there's not that much corruption in the US and if a city government doesn't do their job they risk getting sued. A homeless person may have trouble finding a lawyer, but the risk is still there. Hence I doubt it will be worth it. Besides, there's a huge difference between making something illegal and actually arresting people for it. As far as I know people get arrested quicker in the US than where I live, but I don't really see why arresting people for such a minor infraction would make sense. These things are what fines are for.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And if they can't pay the fine?
Well, here you'd end up in long process starting with warnings that could ultimately end with the authorities either seizing your assets (in case of someone homeless that would hardly be much) or - if you're very unlucky - you being locked up for some time. I'm not quite sure that that would be fair if people actually don't have any money (maybe offer community service as an alternative?), but here it's pretty much impossible to not have any income due to welfare. Combined with payments in instalments it should be pretty much impossible to actually end up in jail for it. E.g. I knew a guy who paid (well probably still pays) a โฌ1000 fine at rates of โฌ5 per month.
Let me just get my homeless ass over on the other end of the county, and fill out some annual or semiannual paperwork. Instead of you know, the government worrying about shit like improving the situation.
Keeping fraudulent beggars off corners so that donors at least know what they're donating to would seemingly be an improvement for the legitimately needy over having to compete with any phony on a street corner.
You won't fix homelessness and poverty overnight, but that seems like a decent initiative. Not all impacts have to be major to be worthwhile. I agree that there is more to be done about improving the situation, but I don't think fixing the underlying problem and taking small steps like this are mutually exclusive.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:34:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, considering like 25% of homeless people are mentally ill and have little to no other options, somebody needs to legitimately help take care of them. That somebody is generally the government when private citizens and industry fail.
Lol, that statistic is so fucking skewed. Having been around a ton of homeless people, volunteering at shelters, the majority of them are on SSI simply because they acted crazy enough. They're perfectly able to work, they just prefer panhandling because it's better money than anything Labor Ready offers.
I'm happy your anecdotes confirm your biases but unless you can show me how these numbers are skewed with actual data from a peer-reviewed study I'm skeptical. I too have worked with homeless people, both in Sacramento and in the Bay Area (as well as refugees in Berlin, though that is something else entirely) and my experience matches more closely to what these studies show. Though my experiences are just anecdotes as well so I tend to trust the peer-reviewed data.
These people are homeless. They are homeless for a reason other than not being able to "wipe their ass". This conversation always gets to this point because of people not informed on why a majority of people are homeless in the first place.
State ID, driver license or passport are required in order to obtain a panhandling license.
The_0P ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 17:28:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes, require hundreds of thousands of people battling schizophrenia to obtain a permit to essentially continue being homeless or else they get locked up. makes a lot of sense...
Ceremor ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:26:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here's an article detailing the fact that in this study out of 22,790 people in prison they'd looked at 3.7% had psychotic illnesses. (That's 843 individuals)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2755284/
Here's an article about how when one such schizophrenic man was taken to jail rather than a mental institution he boiled to death in a shower.
I know these stories. I've also seen plenty of cops helping the homeless. Just like not all homeless are meth addicted thieves, not all cops are pieces of shit.
Trust me, I grew up a skater punk. I'm no cheerleader for the police. Just a human adult who has seen how the really real world works.
If they're battling schizophrenia maybe they need to be locked up (in a mental health facility, where they can get treatment).
Instead of, y'know, stabbing each other or anyone else who comes near.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:27:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
we're having a national discussion that it's 'too hard' for people to get voter ids, and you want homeless, a lot of whom suffer from mental illness to 'just get the permit'? Loled.
How do we pinpoint who has mental illnesses and who doesn't?
Who do we send out to check up on the homeless people with mental illnesses?
Who regulates whether or not you still qualify as someone with a mental illness?
Who regulates what mental illnesses apply to being able to get voter registration or not?
Who keeps tabs on where those with mental illnesses are, and which jurisdiction they fall under for voting?
As well, who pays all of these people to do these jobs and services?
It really sucks, but the solutions to these issues are not black and white, and it's not as simple as, "we need to do more for the homeless."
chellis ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:28:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:41:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude cops arrest legitimate homeless people all day long for anything they want. I come from coastal California where in many areas being homeless in and of itself is a crime.
There are laws against vagrancy and loitering. No ones talking about arresting the homeless. They're talking about arresting panhandlers. Not every homeless person panhandles, and not every panhandler is homeless.
robeph ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:11:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I met a homeless Uber driver from Nashville. Returning vet, wife left, house sold. Just stayed in the streets. Saw an ad for uber at a library, got enough money for a cheap phone at a gas station, used their rent program to get a car, pays 220 a week for it which I a bit steep, but he showed me his week be pay and the six days he worked he legit had 2600 some odd dollars. Says he'd not had as much money as he does ever especially with no bills. I said he can get a place now. "Nah, I just got a year membership at planet fitness, shower and a few hours sleep in those massage chair who needs a house".
I picked him up about a block from the store he requested a ride from Uber for. He said he really just wanted to talk to another driver. Guy probably works his ass off if he's making that much but it's nuts. Said he had no plans on being homed.
I mean a lot of places will just arrest you for being homeless and there no option to have a permit. So i guess it's better than anything. But then again being in jail could be safer. It's pretty shitty how America treats their homeless, especially considering many of them are veterans. I have so many friends who are all about war, 'murica, and dropping freedom on all sorts of people, but if you even raise the question about welfare programs they get so opinionated and judgemental. Fucking hypocrites.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:25:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. If you need it get the permit, otherwise you just can't panhandle. Not like they can arrest you for being homeless
"It was not illegal to be destitute or beg for money, Yossarian knew, as long as one obtained a permit. A permit for begging required one to go to City Hall with identification and proof of permanent address. No permits could be issued without those things.
The city would then determine if one was truly homeless and unable to work. First, they would check to see if the applicant had a permanent address. Then, they would check to see if they had identification. Having either would, of course, mean that an applicant was not homeless and could obtain legal employment. The permit was then denied.
After implementing this program, Akron Ohio announced that the number of registered homeless in their city had dropped to zero, and they congratulated themselves on solving the issue of homelessness for good."
Ceremor ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:18:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. I can't grasp how people look at an idea like this and go 'Wow that fixes everything!'
Sweet summer child. Police departments all over the country routinely arrest people that are homeless knowing that the population is particularly vulnerable to abuse and are often financially and/or mentally unable to pay bail and cope with the process.
But thats effectively what the government can then do. By artificially slowing the permit process (just enough so you really need the money for food, have no other alternative and must panhandle) they can pretty much force your arrest.
Yea, that sounds like a horrific idea. What about mentally ill? Like who is honestly gonna go through the trouble of getting a permit to go hang out on the street and panhandle?
I'm confused... Why would you not be in favor of this? This law prevents random people from doing this, which means that there's more for the people who are truly in need.
Might be more civilized not to have a need for panhandling in the first place... Like a social welfare net or something for those who need help. (OK this is your cue people, start screaming about the evils of Communism.)
There is a great deal of work to build a set of programs to abolish all cases of homelessness, poverty, and unemployment. It's a long process and a large investment, and having a system that ensures panhandled money gets into the hands of people that need it is a good thing.
Kriieod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Rhode Island they ruled that not letting people panhandle was unconstitutional though. So yeah, there's 1 at literally every intersection, but what do I care
It's sad that we can't help the panhandlers beyond requiring permits so greedy assholes won't cut into their profits.... There's got to be a better way of helping those people.
Mangalz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats actually pretty civilized.
In what way is requiring beggars to get a begging permit civilized?
This is the same stupid shit that you would end up complaining about when a homeless person gets fined for not having a begging permit, or even worse gets imprisoned.
Think!
olawd92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a great way to "clean up the streets" by harassing & arresting people who are generally powerless, vulnerable & often mentally ill, instead of dealing with serious crime. It's just an updating of the depression era vagrancy laws that made being unemployed a crime. There is nothing actually civilized about this.
Meh. If we can't have voter ID cards without disenfranchising millions then a law like this is surely to only improve things for those who have the means to make their own choices in life.
From my perspective it sounds even less civilized, because you get a government agency involved and they are almost not accountable to anyone.
daft357 ยท 217 points ยท Posted at 17:16:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish Phoenix AZ would do that. Its getting little out of hand here.
robeph ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:13:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm here from Flagstaff, my daughter is at the hospital pregnant and I have no gas to get there. Could you help me out?
[deleted] ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 17:22:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, no joke. It's becoming quite excessive near the freeway entrances.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:46:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially at 7th St and the I-10. There are so many people who cycle through that one freeway exit, its ridiculous.
bpwnz ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:30:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The alternative is something like what Charleston, SC has done. In order to hide the homeless population from the tourists they passed a law worded so tightly that even Firefighters can't collect money on public streets any more, and both the begger and gifter will be fined.
I would be okay with that kind of a law, or maybe saying you have to ask in a park or something to give that action it's place. Freeway onramps, freeway offramps, jesus fucking christ that should be illegal to stand there, I don't even care if you're asking for money, that's like the car death zone, humans die there.
rguy84 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where I live there's a guy with a significant limp, and often picks up trash. The road he walks down is one of those streets that turned into a highway. I have to cross to catch the bus. While I am not religious, I say a prayer every time he walks by, scarier than shit.
It's also a shitty thing to do. They practically setup a checkpoint in my area.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:40:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
bpwnz ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:43:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes exactly. Sorry I thought it was pretty universal that Firefighters stood by intersections with Boots raising money for kids with cancer and what not. Maybe it's not as universal as I thought, should have clarified.
SO True. I live off the 101 and Broadway. It's the same team that work that enterance everyday. It's a young man in his 20's and a young woman of a similar age. It's painfully obvious they aren't in need and are probably just collecting money for drugs.
It's like this in the entire city and it's getting out of hand. A lady at a gas station the other day asked me for money while holding a pack of smokes and smoking a cigarette. Which I was incredulous about because if she can buy smokes, why does she need money from me?
The sad part is it discourages me from giving money, which I am normally happy to do for those in need.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:42:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I'm in Phoenix pretty regularly and can't recall ever being approached while getting on/off the freeway.
That being said, I'm driving pretty much from the Airport to North Scottsdale.
I'm driving pretty much from the Airport to North Scottsdale.
Surprised you haven't noticed then.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:49:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really not that bad for a major city. There are lots of homeless people, but not anymore than I'd expect. I saw way more homeless when I lived in Austin. They travel in packs over there.
There are certain corners in the Phoenix Area that are always populated by the unfortunate. The highways between the Airport and North Scottsdale are not among those that are popular. However, I've noticed a few panhandlers around the Scottsdale Rd exit off the 101; and also around the access roads through out the shopping area around WalMart/Sam's Club off the Raintree Exit.
Personally, I think the low panhandling population is due to a mix between not wanting to be harassed by police and general populace. (The populace of Scottsdale can be brutal to those that they feel do not belong.) And, the distance from regular services that help the homeless. The exits closer to downtown and around the Glendale area are always prolific...I can't speak for other areas of town; I live in Scottsdale and work in Glendale, so those are the only corners I'm familiar with.
It's pretty terrible on Mill Ave as well. A few times a week on my way to work I get stopped and asked to give a dollar. Apparently they put a law through so it's illegal to sit on the ground due to high volumes of homeless people.
Seriously. I've lived here 30 years and the last 2 or 3 years have gotten really bad.
There's an elderly guy with an obvious physical disability that's on Tatum/Shea most days, which I pass on my way to work. I started packing an extra banana or yogurt and bottle of water with me, if I forget I'll give him a few bucks. He's always grateful.
Some days there's this couple sitting there with a folding chair, like they got there first or something, alternating between which one stands and holds the sign, and which one sits in the chair. They don't give a shit about a banana and water. Fuck those people.
This rant might sound smug but I don't care it is how I feel after a year.
My house is about a 1/4 mile from a major road in my city. In the past year some panhandlers have shown up at the intersection of the road. It varies between 4 different people. About 50% chance of 1-2 of them being they a given day.
That intersection is just a dump. Before last summer the area was nice and didn't have anymore trash then an average intersection has.
From the cross walk North to South on each side the grass is now just a mud/dirt path. And garbage is EVERY there. I've seen a few of them get some subway and they will leave their drink and bag on this pipe with a flat top, as a table. Then let the trash blow away.
One corner of the intersection is an old gofl course turned into a public park/public land. It's like you opened up a few trash bags and let it blow all over there. Again before the panhandlers the area wasn't dirty at all. And on my way to work I'll see one of them with a coffee cup, then on my way home that coffee cup is left on that pipe.
Of course not all of the trash is generated by them, but I've seen them litter many times. And there is a trash big about an eight of a mile away at a bus stop. Which many of them use.
I stopped a few months ago and told one of them. "If I see them occasionally pick up some trash and throw it away at the bus stop garbage can I'll give them some money now and then." He didn't say anything and the area still looks like a dump.
It is frustrating. I know that they are likely down on their luck. I know Correlation does not imply causation. Yet, in this case I think it they are the cause of a litter problem. It makes me want them gone, I hate litter in general and do my best to pick up trash around my neighborhood when I walk my dogs. I wish, even though they are homeless, they did a little to help the community. Them just picking up some trash and taking it to the bin near them ever day would really help.
And I would probably give them a 5 or 10 every now and then if I seen them doing task like that.
I submitted a pic of a pan handler laying down in r/Phoenix a few years ago. Just relaxing barely holding up the sign at the exit ramp of 60 and Gilbert.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Salt Lake too. Some law was eased like 4 years ago and since then they've steadily gotten worse with each year. Used to never have ANY. Now they're everywhere.
Our elected officials work for us, and they don't know what we want unless we tell them. Sure it's easy to be cynical and think they won't listen, but you can't know until you try.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:35:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Arkay's law was struck down as unconstitutional violation of the 1st ammendment. You don't need a government license to speak, no matter what you want to say, including "have some change?"
Doesn't AZ have a law against soliciting employment in public? Like it's illegal to hold a sign that says "Need work" but okay to hold a sign that says "Need free money"?
FailRob ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:58:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Always lived in San Francisco where they have way more homeless people than you'll ever have in Phoenix, that said, I've always womderedwhy don't these people move to Phoenix where it doesn't rain and the weathers like 1 billion times better for homeless people.
I guess they're finally catching on.
Vann1n ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:52:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TBF they really need it. People will straight up Harass you agressively for money here. And living near the college, I see them every morning going car to car to see which one is unlocked and then stealing. And they make the nastiest messes, literally taking a shit on busy street corners.
I'm saying that with the college becoming a panhandling hotspot the homeless issue has gotten really bad. I'm guessing the law was an attempt to get less people to beg around here.
Like on the north side of town, they're everywhere but they aren't begging so its fine, but if you go east/south they literally make tarp tents on street corners and go window to window at red lights.
I got screamed at in spanish once because I gave a couple bags of food and directions to where I worked (they were hiring) to a guy with a sign saying 'need help'. He wanted money, not food and a potential job. Got furious when I refused to give him any cash.
On the other hand, I had a guy break down crying when I gave him some water and food outside a Walgreens. I was the only one who stopped and he actually was in need.
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:45:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a homeless dude outside a Walgreens in San Juan, PR. Started talking to him since I was finishing a cigarette, he ended up being a pretty cool dude. Once I got my shit in the store, I walked him to the McDs down the street and told him to get whatever he wanted. That was the most grateful I'd ever seen anyone. I don't give beggars cash, but I'll buy them a meal on occasion. I think he ended up getting 2 double cheeseburgers and some fries and a drink, dude just tore through it.
I bought a dude a sandwich, and then one day I was walking along and dude called from the other side of the street, "Hey, food lady!" and ran across the street and hugged me. Just today I sat with my friend on the bus and he asked if I had a little time, cause he was gonna cash his check and buy me a pack of cigarettes because I had done so for him. I said no dear, no need to pay me back. He is now tied up with a white woman I've seen many times before who is bad news, I feel bad for him. I will NOT give her one red cent but he's sweet and as never asked for anything since.
It's up to you and your street-smarts to discern who is or is not in need. I felt terrible Friday because I left the corner store and a white dude in a nice truck and fluorescent shirt asked if I had a couple dollars for gas, I said I don't carry cash and he asked if I could just put five bucks on my card for him, I was just like no, I am sorry, but no. White or black, I've seen 'em all; no discrimination here!
The assholes make it worse for the truly desperate out there.
I lived in Central Phoenix the last 7 years years. Most don't want food. You can always tell the difference. The people with big back packs are often very thankful when I feed them/buy them water. That's what makes it worth it, to know they needed it.
Once I had a guy approach me in a strip mall parking lot asking for money to buy food. I only had my debit/credit cards on me. I offered to buy him food from each restaurant and he had problems with all of them, "it's too greasy," "their menu is boring," "it's too processed." I asked him what he wanted me to do then? "Go to the ATM and get me money and I'll walk to where I want to eat."
I did that once. I was younger, with my parents and we went to meet some people in a nice steak place downtown. The parking lot was a bit of a walk away and we were dressed up nicely, so of course you'd expect us to get bothered.
I had an untouched delicious bacon mac and cheese side dish. When we were confronted by a dude asking for 'help', my dad gave that to him.
Before we turned the corner, we saw him throw it in the trash.
It's just upsetting to see people like that. Also, I was anticipating eating that later...
kwiztas ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:25:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been turned away when someone was asking for gas money at a station. I offered to put a few dollars on the pump and they looked disgusted. like how dare I beet them at their own game. some people are fucking pathetic.
As a rule of thumb it's a bad idea to accept unsealed food from people when you're homeless, tampering with food before giving it to the homeless is a common occurrence.
Chody88 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:59:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I give them beer, and they have to drink it in front of me.
When i was on a trip in DC in high school my teacher offered to buy a pan handler a meal and he refused and just wanted money. Unfortunately a lot of these people are scam artists.
I had a first hand experience of this. I ordered too many mcdoubles and tried to give my extra to a panhandler. Burger was still hot in the wrapper. He got right pissed and demanded cash instead.
Was a bit of an eye opener when you think your doing the right thing by giving food instead of cash.
As a former homeless person, it's about immediate value versus future value. Money has value that can be saved for when you can't find food or other needs otherwise (this person may have just eaten and didn't "need" food at the moment). Food is a good gift, but it only lasts a few hours, maybe a day at best, so a gift of food is kind of like a backhanded gift (here, here's some food for now, but I won't give you the ability to buy food later). Food can't be saved, and can't be put in a pocket to keep safe from thieves. Unless you have a cart (which people avoid cause it's like you resigning yourself to homelessness), you don't have anywhere to put any of the stuff people give you.
Also, that guy doesn't have an address, so that job you offered (that he would have to abandon his corner, that he may have fought for to apply for) isn't as useful as you think. He needs to eat "immediately", but paychecks can come once a month or every other week; he doesn't have the ability/energy to both work and panhandle for those weeks, so he has to make a choice. Pay checks also don't usually come in the form of cash, so he'll have to find a way to get a bank account (without an address that's not gonna happen) first.
To summarize, he knows he's homeless and you offering to give him food and a potential job doesn't really help his situation any more or less than someone who just walked by. Cash has the best value, and our whole societal security is based on having food and shelter, neither of which they have the ability to build or hoard.
The hard thing I find is you can't guarantee that money you give to a stranger goes to the right needs instead of to an addiction problem. I just want to say good on you for breaking away from homelessness though.
Kind of a hard question to ask, but are you able to recognize those who are truly homeless who could really use the money from those who won't? The only time I've truly felt my cash was going to the right cause is when I talked to a man charging his phone at a parkade car outlet (for winter block heaters). Learned he had an interview later that day and heard a bit of his life story so I gave him $40 and wished him the best. Extremely polite and evidently embarrassed to ask for change.
In answer to your question, I have a question for you: if a homeless person has an addiction, is that need not just as real (and potentially fatal) as the need for food and shelter?
As an actual answer: no, I can't tell the difference at all, and it's really impossible to do so. The answer is crazy complicated but, after being there myself, maybe I can try. Most homeless people have gotten themselves caught in a cycle (my cycle was ended by my parents, but I'd absolutely still be there if not for an infusion of cash) that society has caused. Without a little money and an address, you won't be getting employment. Homeless shelters require you to be there and line up if you want "a bed with a post address" really early, so you can't be out looking for a job while you're waiting for a bed. If you leave that shelter for too long, that address isn't yours anymore and any job applications become nebulous, so that adds a crazy amount of stress and anxiety to an already mentally exhausting situation.
Basically, it's way easier to just deal with sleeping outside and hoping someone has some cash because trying to rebuild a life in this society when you start at literally zero is near impossible. Drugs provide a nice out that allows them to feel better for a while, but now that causes an addiction and other problems. Their need for relaxation and the ability to de-stress (even if it is just chemical and "fake") is just as necessary as your need for it, except you have a place where you can feel safe and express that need.
I know this was long, and probably a little controversial, but I'm gonna end it with this: homeless people are already living a life that you couldn't imagine, and dealing with more stress than most people will admit to, so, if they wanna get a little high or drunk with your money instead of eating a second meal today, can you really blame them? Don't hate them for their needs, or give them things out of pity to make yourself feel like you're helping, but maybe that $5 you got in change could make one day in their life a little less miserable. It won't end the homelessness, but neither will everyone buying them food.
kwkard ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:00:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet he would have gladly accepted a double cheeseburger instead.
And when you think about it, some of these panhandlers make more than minimum wage per hour by simply standing out there, begging for money (untaxed, might I add). That's straight up fucked up. You have people who actually work and then these people.
Homeless people require more than food. These other requirements involve cash exchange. Maybe the guy legitimately wants to brush his teeth or wear deodorant. They are still people.
It let's you arrest the ones without a permit and force them to work for $0.25/hour! That makes much more money than simply feeding them and providing them housing.
Ronasty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same for North Carolina. You have to get a permit from the city council to beg or else it is illegal.
Those permits suck and are normally very restrictive.
robeph ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got proof? Or just talking.
Mangalz ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Average Government Bureaucrat 1: Oh man we can just create a law that requires beggars to get permits, and then make them a pain in the ass to get so very few people can legally beg for money, and then we can fine them and arrest them when they dont pay it and get them off the streets. Where we can spend lots of money housing them taking away their freedom and making it impossible for people to get back on their feet.
Then I can campaign on being instrumental in fixing the homeless problem, by stopping illegitimate begging. And if anyone says what I did was bad I will just say they hate the poor, and especially the black poor.
robeph ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:32:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're just making things up based on a theoretical government bureaucrat and your belief that there is no positive intent in the reason behind the law. Gotcha.
Reality is, you're just hand waving and making baseless statements. Reality is also that the law was repealed. But not for any reason you've thus suggested.
Been here a year, already got robbed twice, watched my neighbor's car get smashed in with a pcp fueled rock wielding naked man, walked outside to a random dude sleeping on my porch. Great town.
Akron was pretty bad when I went to college in 06. Once had a dude drool all over my window asking for money outside my bank.
On another note, had a friend that I would make bootleg movies and CDs for in exchange for a gram bag lol. Best dude ever. I would also buy him burgers with my zipcash in exhange for trees as well. True hustling out there.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:39:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean homeless people can get permits but voter ID laws are racist?
Don't they have that in downtown Cleveland as well? I was approached outside house of Blues by a guy with a placard around his neck with a picture of him and his daughter and some personal info. Looked pretty official at a glance but I didn't have any cash to give him. This was probably 5 or 6 years ago though
So they make a particular group of people wear a badge based on the thing that sets them apart from others? This sort of thing never leads to anything good.
yeah, if I saw someone doing this I wouldn't make a video trying to shame them cause they clearly have none. I would just make note of her car and then next time she goes off to panhandle i would let down all of her tyres and and pour paint thinner on her car and leave a note on her windshield.
Does that make me a bad person....maybe, but I bet having her car fucked like that will make her stop.
They passed this same law in my hometown, but the ACLU is fighting it. They say it is unconstitutional, that begging on street corners is free speech protected by the 1st Amendment.
If they are in public begging they are indeed more in need than me, either psychologically, financial, or both. No need for further analysis. Just the act of begging confirms it. I don't judge my fellow man on his worthiness to engage in the act of begging.
If you ever visit NYC, do not give money to the "beggars". They are all PROFESSIONAL panhandlers. NYC has programs to help the homeless. The people with funny/clever signs begging for money or the "cripples" begging for money are PROFESSIONAL panhandlers making a lot more money that most people in the world.
"some one is going to kill you" um.... threatening poeple's life doesn't sound smart
athural ยท 502 points ยท Posted at 17:16:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For real. I dont know if they can get the cops involved because of her begging for money. I can guarantee that they can get the police involved over death threats
Edit: so the police would not be able to do anything about this threat because there is no sense of imminent danger.
[deleted] ยท 185 points ยท Posted at 17:24:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
athural ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 17:30:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upon googling, it appears that while this definitely costitutes a threat and if something were to happen could be used as evidence, it would not be actionable in itself. "When combined with apparently imminent bodily harm, however, a threat is an assault for which the offender might be subject to civil or criminal liability."
In other words, just saying "someone is going to kill you" isn't a non-punishable threat, but saying it and actually having the intention to harm you, which she clearly didn't (she's a pussy) is punishable?
athural ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:43:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thats right she's clearly just puffing up to try and get them to go away. however if she had been walking towards them saying "im going to kill you" that would have been a whole different thing
robeph ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:18:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't constitute a threat except under context. The context here is not threatening
Depends on the jurisdiction, but some U.S. states have a statute for "terroristic threats", which are actionable, in and of themselves.
To wit: "Aย terroristic threatย is when a person threatens to commit any crime of violence against another person with the intent to terrorize. Because this is a speech based crime, it can often be difficult to determine if a person's actions constitute a criminal offense." Source. Just sayin'...
Yeah, seems like she was hoping to run into someone that would hurt them for her, hence going up to all the Mcree D's employees. I think that's why she said that 'someone' would kill them. Definitely a pretty direct threat
When they ask for what, she says for filming her specifically. I'm not saying it would hold up anywhere, but it is a little more specific than a general warning.
Is it really not obvious what she's trying to say? She's not saying that she is going to have someone kill them, but someone is going to kill them if they go around doing to others what they're doing to this lady.
odd84 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:29:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Some one is going to kill you" is not legally a death threat, because it's not credible and specific enough that a reasonable person would believe they are in imminent danger from the person making the threat.
closest ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure she'll have the best lawyers representing her and get her off with some community service at friend's company, where she'll get an automatic sign off with a little bit of bribery, and back on the streets begging in no time.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:49:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
4juice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think what she meant was, if the videographer keep exposing these homeless frauds, some homeless chap will kill him. It is still a threat nonetheless.
She literally said that someones going to end up killing him for harassing her. More specifically the exchange was "Someones going to end up killing you you hear me?". He says "How? For what?" and she proceeds to say "for harassing me". Sure sounds like a direct threat to me.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:36:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I probably would have pushed the button a bit more to get her to say something stupid no also may or may not have been stabbed
There's a guy here in Sรฃo Paulo, Brazil, that asks for money so he can get his passport back. He says he's from Auckland, NZ (as I recall), and only speaks in English. I mean, only when that's his character. His Portuguese is excellent.
Right outside Penn Station in NYC once I was walking behind two men having a convo about scamming people for money like this. One guy, a pretty young, fairly ratty looking white guy, was telling his buddy how he made over $100 that day begging people for money with his usual sob story, telling everyone he desperately needed just a few more dollars to finally buy a ticket home for bla bla bla reasons. Made his money, walked out of the train station, went on with his life. What a piece of shit.
That reminds me of a twitch streamer that would make all sorts of money from donations due in no small part to the fact that he portrayed himself as disabled and confined to a wheel chair until one video where the phone rings and he thinks it's stopped recording, so he stands up and walks to pick up the phone. Pretty great to see the guy bust himself.
That's another reason I hate seeing a video like this become so popular. Not just because of it showing me an example of a terrible person, but that for every one of these videos that gets big, it nudges everyone to be slightly less compassionate towards the truly destitute and homeless. And those people really do need help that they are not getting.
Not sure where you live, but where I live, there's plenty of homeless assistance, shelters, food banks, etc. They'll help you get new ID, clean up, find a job, etc.
BUT you have to be willing to do those things.....
Right, but thats oversimplifying the situation even when there is help offered. Take a drug addict for example, heroin isn't easy to quit and has a high recidivism rate. The options (from my limited knowledge) for help if you are an addict and homeless are basically to go to an inpatient psych ward, get the drugs that make it so you don't die from the shakes, and then likely get released (but maybe not) in a few weeks. Very few people even in a bad spot want to give up their freedom for un undisclosed amount of time to have the privilege of maybe getting a minimum wage job.
eh, IDK if that's necessarily the case -- it could just as well be that it pushes people to be more compassionate to the truly destitute and they go and donate money to GiveDirectly or something, or to a larger aid program that can take advantage of economies of scale. Hell, given plausibly order-of-magnitude differences in effectiveness, even if they gave a fraction of the money they'd give to local panhandlers to somewhere else, the world might still be all the better for it
To play devil's advocate, is their only proof that she has a car?... aren't there a lot of people who are homeless and who live in their car?... Not saying she's innocent or anything. Just wondering.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:15:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In regions where vacancy rates are low, landlords would not rent to somebody without a job or references. Living in a car is sometimes the only option. Potentially a better use of money as well, as long as you have somewhere to shower and clean up.
Fraud is wrong; playing deceitfully on people's sympathy is wrong.
But one false beggar gets a big article on the news, all the real beggars can just get lost and die.
Erdumas ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:25:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people come up to me and ask for money, if I have some on me I give it to them.
I don't believe whatever story they have, maybe it's true, maybe it's not, ultimately I can't verify so that's immaterial.
Asking people for money, face to face, is difficult for most people. Standing in the sun all day is difficult for most people. If someone does hard work, they should get compensated. I'll give what change I have. Although I usually don't have cash on me.
That's how I feel about it. I'm sure others disagree, and that's fine. It's just easier than trying to figure out if I'm being lied to, and more compassionate than saying nobody gets money.
[deleted] ยท 236 points ยท Posted at 17:29:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"This IS viral" I wish I had that confidence in my content.
Theres a "homeless" woman who asks for money by where I live (monterey, ca). Her sign says something along the lines of "camper broke down. Son is sick in Oregon. Anything helps. Need to see him. God bless". The sign is painted and looks really good for a panhandling sign, like an old lady with a few extra hours, paints and paintbrushes did it. Ive seen her off and on for a little over two years now. Shes made no progress to Oregon!! Her son Gon' die!!!!!
The real victims of this are those poor McDonalds employees the woman won't leave alone.
[deleted] ยท 184 points ยท Posted at 18:39:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is my struggle every day on the NY subway. People will start with "Excuse me, I don't mean to bother anyone, I wouldn't do this if I didn't have to" and usually give a speech about having to feed their disabled child.
It's a moral debate every day not knowing if 1. They are telling the truth and I will burn in hell for not helping or 2. It's a scam and am an idiot for giving them money
jamexxx ยท 2658 points ยท Posted at 16:12:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give food, not money, little difficult to spend food๏ปฟ.
Off topic: When I was young I hung out with a thief l'll call Neil. One day we pulled up to a house that caught fire the previous day or so and was now boarded up. Neil jumps out , breaks in and comes out with a few items. Smash-cut to later that day we are barbequing chicken out at the lake.
Neil informs me that we are eating stolen chicken (from the burned out house, the electricity was still hooked up) and the owner died in the fire.
I ate a dead man's chicken.
yojay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha. Same happened here. We had a chest freezer in the garage which got broken into. They left the nice joints of beef and lamb but took a couple ice lollies and fish fingers.
That's low as hell to take the fish sticks. I could understand taking a couple of corn dogs and maybe even half of a bag of bagel bites, but you don't fuck with someone's fish sticks.
Fish is still meat...... My family would fight about this every year but my mom welp apparently fish is not meat by some unknown reason coming from my mom
xaijin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone broke into my car at work and stole my lunch bag, and not the change in the front, or cigarettes, or anything else. Just a broken windows and no lunch pail
nahxela ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look, I already apologized to Dave dozens of times about that. Can you please stop bringing that up, I was just a little hungry!!
Neat trick for this, you can block off the heater vent on the drivers side and put the dogs in a ziplock on the passenger side vent. This prevents the smell of having them in aluminum foil on your dash. Although I don't think they cook as well.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:49:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's great for red meat, not hotdogs. You can actually overcook hot dogs and the block is a great way to do that. Now if you are cooking for yourself, you can regulate the timing better, but you don't always know when you are going to meet a panhandler that isn't a Vegan.
BKD2674 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 16:54:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always have a pack of Yorkshire Puddings, Suet and a pocket OS Map, in case someone asks for change. Got this from my dad because he coined a phrase 'if you give a man a hammer he will hit nails for a while before the hammer begins to show signs of wear, teach a man to repair that hammer at a later date and he will likely not encounter serious issues with the hammer until several years after the hammers manufactured warranty - if it's from a reputable vendor.'
bclagge ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 17:24:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your dad coined that? I use it all the time. He's a wise man.
Thanks. He also revolutionised the drainage and compacting process required to package coconut fibre, at the size required for the demands of a modern market. Likely you have heard of Roger Ellis. But he only perfected the plastic wrapping and chemical cleaning. You won't have heard of James Tamworth. The games rigged.
I've done this. Went out of my way to give food. They were clearly disappointed. That's when I learned they can get essentials. It's other things they want.
After speaking to a few homeless people, they are grateful but you can see you it can be frustrating when it's winter and plenty of people will happily spend ยฃ2 on a sandwich when they don't need food but can't get any money for a hostel that night. It's a complex problem that can't be solved by just giving food away.
Also if they became homeless when they already have a paid off car food isn't going to pay for stuff like gas or parking. In most of America a car is essential to getting around. And just because they're on disability like this woman claims to be food doesn't buy things like clothes. Also who are you to decide someone else's dietary needs? What if they're allergic?
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:03:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just supplementing disability, not really needy in the first place.
If you think disability pays enough to not be needy you're deluding yourself. Disability is like less than half of minimum wage. Most of my disability cheque goes to my rent. If my dad didn't help me by doing stuff like paying for my internet and I wasn't on my brother's netflix I'd probably be out there begging too. Not to mention with the inflated medical costs in the united states.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 18:18:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also have a fridge! and a microwave! and electricity! I must be FUCKIN' RICH
RRSC14 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:34:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you really REALLY just put Netflix on the same level of need as electricity, a fridge and a microwave? Holy shit. I suppose it would be impossible to live without Netflix when you're sitting around all day waiting for that disability check to come.
I have to know what people say when they're angry you gave them a free lunch. It's a giveaway they want cash for something other than food. What kind of crap do they give you?
The most recent one after being given several sleeves of peanut butter crackers asked "what else you got?" The one before took the subway sandwich I had just bought for myself and said "where am I supposed to put this?" The one before that had no response at all.
Just wow. I was in a Starbucks years ago right about closing time getting a black coffee and the cashier asked me if I would like any of the sandwiches and handed me a couple of turkey and stuffing varieties. She explained that they were all going to be thrown away after closing because of the sell by date and hated to see them go to waste. There were a bunch of them left and I accepted two of them with many thanks. She was offering some to a few folks at the tables outside as I left. Someone taking time to share food with you is one of the kindest acts they can do. It's implicitly concerned for your well being, I mean it's something mothers do for their children. That cashier stuck in my mind for a long time because of the gesture. The sandwiches were freaking delicious too lol. It just blows my mind that a person would look down on you or turn up their nose at such compassion. Even if they're not hungry in that moment, they will be at some point. I just can't imagine being down and out and having food not be good enough.
I went through a McDonald's drive thru at 2:30 AM one time...not drunk, just super hungry. I added an apple pie to my order and the guy gave me 12 apple pies!!
Not really relevant, I just don't get many chances to share this story because it embarrasses me wife. I ate all of the apple pies.
I'm not a college student anymore and I'm still grateful whenever I get offered free food. I've never and will never give anything to these asshat pan handlers. There are people who are in need of mental healthcare or just really had a hard life but then you have people who know they can make a buck and ruin it for everyone. It's also upsetting to see people give them money too because they have a heart but also gullible as hell. This also just increases the problem. If you're going to give, just give food.
janiekh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:29:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the homeless people that turn down free food aren't actually homeless. Or they just want money to buy more drugs.
Agree with you for the most part, but there is also some fear on homeless folks' minds that people will intentionally tamper with food that they are giving.
Sure, there are some people who are like you're referring to, but just wanted to let you know why some may be weary of taking free food that's offered to them.
Edit: I guess the dv are from people with aggressive homeless, that's not the case everywhere
the real answer is that the majority of homeless people get all the free food they want since this is a first world country overflowing with an abundance of organizations eager to feed the homeless. They don't want the fresh food you order them because they aren't hungry. They want money for drugs or booze most of the time.
Hey, I'm no dietician or anything, but in that case they either cross "Hungry" off of their cardboard sign; OR they get the fuck off of the median for a while, clearly satisfied of their human need?
Hey, I'm no dietician or anything, but in that case they either cross "Hungry" off of their cardboard sign; OR they get the fuck off of the median for a while, satisfied?
I'll never be satisfied as long as tough guy dipshits like you exist. Don't give them money or food if you don't want, dumbass.
You're over here trying to stand up for Beggars who end up being Vicious choosers. You're attempting to justify them lashing out at kind hearted folks who offer them that which they don't truly want.
And I'm the tough guy for pointing out an obvious flaw in your specious reasoning? What was even "tough" about it? Nothing.
Meanwhile your response painting me with the broad brush you keep loaded at your hip can easily be characterized as antagonistic, making you the limp wristed tough guy here, bud.
It sucks to receive those kind of responses but don't let it stop you. Anyone says that and you can immediately label them as a fraud just looking for drug/booze money. At the very least you know for the next time you see them. And at best it's a chance to show some love to someone who needs it.
Just to break up all the shit stories of shit people being shitty:
I was driving to work last week when a gentleman walked up to my car (stopped at a red) and put his hand to his mouth. I looked at my lunch: a bag of deli ham and a babybel cheese. I held up the bag and mimed like "I don't know man, all I have is a bag of ham, you can have it though." and he nodded, smiled and came to the window. He said "thank you" and took it and went back to the sidewalk.
It was weird, but I hope it made his day a little better.
On a freezing day a few years back, my sister stopped in to her regular cafe for her daily coffee. She bought a guy begging outside a hot chocolate, on her card no less, and gave it to him. He literally threw it at her, spilled all over her clothes. He said "I don't want your fucking food I want your fucking money". Now if she hadn't been bundled up, she could have been seriously burned. The guy was lucky I wasn't there. I would have beat him to death. But that's just one example, and the big reason I stopped giving anything to beggars in Philadelphia.
MrHaxx1 ยท 175 points ยท Posted at 17:25:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
???
Even if I was a fake homeless, I would've still said yes to a free hot chocolate. Hell, I'd say yes to a free hot chocolate now.
This is the correct answer. And for anyone reading this far down, I want to be clear that I am sympathetic to the plights of these people. I just...have to take care of myself and protect those that I love.
Z0di ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:02:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He'd probably welcome a trip to jail if it was freezing. And prosecuting the homeless rarely gets you anywhere anyways. It's fairly hard to serve a summons if they have no home address or place of work and you have no idea where they are. They will invariably miss court dates, probation meetings, and won't do community service. Even if they rack up enough "bad boy points" to go to prison, it's not going to be worse than the streets. They'll get fed, have a bed and amenities, and in the end be put in cahoots with worse networks of people.
Better to just leave him in the cold if you're really feeling vindictive.
If you're freezing and have no real way to get out of the cold, wouldn't you welcome a hot drink? If someone can get in their car anytime or go home, they're probably not too concerned about the cold. Someone who is homeless knows survival means accepting what you can.
RovDer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:14:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've known a few homeless people that'll purposely get caught stealing in a store when it's cold. Usually just something cheep so the sentence won't be severe.
Philly beggars done fucked up my charitable inclinations too. Washing my hands in the Suburban station restroom some guy asks for a hand out. Poor student me fished out some pocket change. He looks at it pissed off, "Is that all!". It took me a second to process the audacity of it. I just turned around and threw it all over the piss-covered floor then left. -WB
And that is how me and Bill met. Jk. Different restroom, different kind of soliciting. -DT
Leaving Cheesecake Factory in Seattle, have homeless guy ask for my leftovers, give them to him, watch as he opens the box and checks the food, then walks across the street and trashes it. Fuck those people.
He'd go to the Wawa at 21st and Hamilton every day for his morning coffee, about ten years back. Same guy was outside everyday begging, same sign that read "homeless and hungry" and everyday my buddy would give him the left over change from his purchase. One Friday this guy wasn't there, and right back at it Monday. My friend was sitting in his car as he pulled up, responding to a text about work. He heard his regular beggar talking to another semi regular beggar about his absence the week prior, and how he had picked up overtime at work, and then had to prep food for a cookout at his house he was hosting on Saturday so he just didn't have the time to panhandle. When my friend left the guy said "hey man, good to see you, got anything for me today?" and my buddy just said "no pal, but how was the cookout?". They didn't get along after that.
We have panhandlers in Seattle, and I always passed this one dude every day but never had cash. He was always so friendly and had a great big smile on his face, rain or shine. He was selling papers at $2 a pop. I couldn't afford to buy any of his papers, but I did offer to buy him coffee and a meal at Starbucks. He was super cool about it and didn't abuse that privilege. We chatted for a while and he was homeless, but saving up money to go to a different city (I think Vancouver?) and start a life there.
I haven't seen him in two years, so I hope shit actually worked out for him. They're not all bad, but I totally understand how that would spoil your attitude about it. Just makes me angry that shitheads like the one in your story ruin it for everyone else.
Too true. As a person with empathy I want to help, and I hope for the best for all. But I can't pick and choose either, so I keep it to a strict "no handouts policy". Besides, I'm not well off. I'm alone at the moment, and trying to do things with my life. I work hard, and I try to enjoy myself all while planning for my future. It is what it is I suppose.
Sidenote, I'll be in Seattle in 2 weeks. I love it out there, try to vacation in the Pacific Northwest as often as possible.
I was a graduate student, and I recently graduated (like, last week) - so I'm still burdened with debts. Whatever I have on me isn't mind, it's my parent's money. I have zero money to my name and zero employment. I'm in no position to be giving out money either, but I happily give my time to the local trail association.
Yay! Sounds like you've been here before so I imagine you don't need the grand ol' tour, but if you need someone to grab a bite or a HH drink with, feel free to message me and we can try to meet up.
matane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's philly for you. If they're not interested in food I give them the location of the nearest men's/women's shelter, because there are a shitload here, and tell them they should go there for a roof over their head and medical care if they need it. Lots of mental illnesses and money grubbing have definitely let me to ignore a lot of panhandlers here in the city.
Philly is the worst for beggars and their scams. One guy had an iPhone when they first came out so many years ago. Is it possible that it was gifted to him or he purchased it before he fell on hard times? Yes, but it wasn't likely.
In fairness, many homeless people are mentally ill and the behavior this individual displayed was not necessarily as intentionally/consciously hostile as it may have appeared. Plus, if you have never lived on the street before it is really hard to understand what these people go through. It is a brutal and unforgiving existence.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i gave dude an orange once. he threw it back at my car. never again. i was gonna eat it.
ohh-kay ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:35:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like some George from Seinfeld shit, though he would have gotten out of the car, and walked over to go pick it up, but just before he got there, another car would have driven by ans squished it. Then would have yelled at the homeless guy for ruining a perfectly good orange. But of course then his boss or girlfriend at the time or whomever would be eating in a restaurant across the way and just see George yelling at some homeless guy.
A few months ago, a guy came up to me asking for money "so he could take the train to his appointment." Through the course of our short chat, his story fell apart pretty quick and we both realized it. I still wanted to help him and told him that I'd get him some food from the 7-11. He scoffed and glared at me and said "naw man, why can't you just gimme the money?"
I have read about some legitimate answers to this issue, the best explanation is that if EVERYONE gives food (especially stuff that has to be kept cold/hot) the donation goes to waste because it can't all be eaten, and has to be thrown out before it goes bad. I rarely get the stink eye for giving non-perishables like granola bars or trail mix, and if they have a problem with THAT, then they are looking for money or booze
I mean, if everyone did give food, wouldn't a person stop begging for a bit when they got enough for a day or two and just go back at it when they are hungry again? If they are homeless then it's not like they have rent or utilities to worry about so I can't really get behind the notion that they only want cash because all the food won't keep. I think we're wise to the fact that not everyone begging is being honest though and that stings a bit.
I once went to lunch at a Wendy's near work and noticed a guy with a sign that said he was hungry. I thought "Right, I should buy this guy a meal!" I got him food and a drink and took it out to him. This was many years ago so I don't remember if he thanked me, but what I DO remember is that as I walked away I looked back just in time to see him throw the entire bag into the garbage. I stopped giving anything after that day.
Another time, we were waiting in line to see a show and a homeless lady approached the line and went down to each person begging for money. When she got to us I gave her a quarter and told her "Sorry, this is all I have." Which was true. After taking the quarter she looks down at my coat pocket and jabs a round object that she can see through the fabric and she says "Then what's that?" As if I was holding out on her and she was owed any money I was carrying.
You're not obligated to give her anything, and that includes the truth. Not that she was being entirely truthful with what she's using the money for. Unbelievable reaction at being given something.
They don't want lunch, they want drugs. People seem to be really naive about the fact that many panhandlers are drug addicts and are looking for money to buy their next bag/pill/rock. They're not starving. There are resources for the homeless to be fed. Churches, food pantries, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, dumpsters, etc. are sources for free food. Not so many places offer free drugs.
da1hobo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:28:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tried giving a subway sandwich to a guy who had a sign that said he was hungry. He asked me how he was going to pay rent with a sandwich. Another time a guy gave me a story about being out of gas so I gave him the emergency 3 gallon can I have in my trunk and he threw it in the trash as he stormed off.
My friend and I saw a "homeless" person near a McDonald's once in Colorado Springs and her sign said, "Homeless and hungry." We went through the drivethru and got an extra meal and went up and offered it to her. She kept refusing to the point of being angry, so we drove off and split the food. Becauae of this, I have never given a single thing to any other person that claims they are homeless, not even food.
It's important to remember that generally, they're mentally unstable or drug abusers (or both). Sometimes they get angry, but most are very appreciative if the kindness.
butting in The ones I've offered food to (in NYC) usually just say "no thanks". My daughter has handed them granola bars and they usually take it and say "thanks. Got any spare change?"
jbg830 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in college, I was walking home drunk from the bars and this guy was standing outside of a Mcdonalds asking for money for food. I, being drunk and feeling compassionate, didn't have any money so I went in and bought him a 2 cheeseburger meal with my debit card. He threw the bag at me when I handed it to him.
To be fair, a lunch is going to feed them, but it isn't going to help them stop being homeless. The only thing that will do that is a stable job, and that often requires looking presentable in an interview. And for that they'd need money to clean up and get a good pair of clothes.
SJaxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bought a panhandler a cookie from Ben and Jerry's last month and he turned it down because "sweets hurt his stomach." While walking away I saw a cell phone behind his "hungry" cardboard sign.
Ahhh, one day I had came out of the store with a six pack in hand and there was a panhandler outside. He asked for change but told him I didn't carry cash. I offered him the beer and he said "allllriiiiiiiight that'll work". At least I know it isn't going towards something I wouldn't do right?
When I was in my 20's we had a company party that resulted in a bunch of alcohol not getting consumed. When people we're looking for ideas on what to do with it, the first thing that came to mind was to go give it to the homeless. I got so much shit for publicly saying that, but for fucks sake, some people are not able to deal with reality head on. I ended the day by telling my boss, you're right, I realize now we should only be offering the homeless vegan gluten free bran muffins and I apologize. That comment set me back again.
A friend of mine runs a homeless shelter. She begged us to not even give the local homeless food. Because they eat your food so they don't have to go to the shelter where they try and get them clean and get them a job. You donation of food means they can avoid the shelter and spend all of their money on drugs and alcohol.
bclagge ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:28:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, and if you give them money they'll just buy whatever they want - food, drugs, alcohol. The solution is to never give them anything. If someone desperately wants to help, give money to the local shelter or soup kitchen.
Yeah I remember one time a guy came up to me and my dads truck window while we were eating and asked for money. My dad turned him down and I asked howcome, he said since the guy was smoking a cigarette he probably would have just spent it on them or booze and wasnt going to support that
Just having left a restaurant, a friend offered half a pizza to a homeless guy begging nearby. Homeless guy's response: "grrr I DON'T LIKE PIZZA!!!". Definition of a beggar trying to be a big time chooser. And who doesn't like pizza?
I've heard before that it usually isn't a good idea to give food for a couple of different reasons. One is that they might have some allergy or intolerance you aren't aware of. Another is that not everyone who is begging for money is starving right that instant. If everyone gives them food, they now have to carry that food around with them. It's not good if it is perishable too.
Everyone is different though and some may be fine with you giving them food.
No? People shouldn't be forced to take food that they are allergic or intolerant to just to be polite. If someone isn't hungry at that moment and doesn't have the ability to carry around food or store perishable food, they shouldn't feel inclined to take food from someone else either. Of course they should be polite when declining the food.
Fkeu ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:22:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad buys $5 McDonalds gift cards and hands those out to people he judges looks like they really need it. Never a complaint but they can only spend it on food. And 5 is a good amount there.
You're absolutely right, they really don't want food anyway. Story time: years ago, when I about 18-19, I pulled into a combination gas station/McDonald's in Detroit. As I was walking in, a panhandler asked for $1.05 for "a double cheese burger." I told the guy that I didn't have any change on me, but I would take care of him on the way out. After I made my initial purchase, I swung by the McDonald's counter and ordered a few double cheeseburgers for the dude standing outside asking for food money. I walked back out, the guy asked me again for $1.05, seemingly forgetting about the previous conversation that we had before I walked into the store. I handed him the hot and fresh bag of McDonalds... and I'll never forget the look he gave me. He looked at me like I was literally insane, then threw the bag on food on the ground and said something like, "I asked for money, not for food." This interaction has shaped the way I treat all panhandlers from that point forward. Regardless of how dire their situation may appear, I will not "donate" in any of these situations. It's not my job to determine or try to remedy someone's level of destitution, I just tell them "sorry" and keep walking.
You give then food instead of money and that tells someone right away that you think they'll just blow the money on booze or alcohol. It takes away the thing beggars lack most: autonomy. Food scraps so you don't starve to death is easy to beg for. Enough money to.make at least one autonomous decision, what to purchase, is much harder--and a much greater psychological attack.
Given their situation, you'd hope they'd be grateful for food, but between mental illnesses and bitter broken people it stands to reason some aren't going to be grateful for the reminder of their powerlessness.
The thing is people have needs. You need to pay for transportation, shelter, and other needs beyond food. Moreover people don't realize the kind of food they give (and many times there are better sources of food). If you go to a mac donalds and buy them a meal and give it to them, you, inadvertently, gave them the meal for took away from them the bathroom.
To play devil's advocate: you are not giving them what they ask you for, you are giving them what you think they need without really understanding their situation. It's like you asking me to borrow a screwdriver and I giving you a hammer because "it's free, you should take it and be thankful to me for it".
Can confirm...worked in downtown Atlanta for 15 years and would get panhandled daily by various people. In hundreds of attempts my entire time down there I offered each time to take them less than a block to a food court and buy them what ever food they wanted ...as much as they wanted if they came with me right then......15 years and 0 people took me up on my offer. I would have bought them enough food to last multiple days if they need/wanted it but they always wanted money...no food. I never carry cash so said sorry I couldn't help them.
Had a few instances of being verbally accosted for offering to get them food. Had one guy that followed a few feet behind me for 2 blocks cussing at me and threatening me physically if I didn't give him a dollar. Called cops on cell and just kept walking. One of the few times I really felt in fear for my safety. Gotta say it was awhile after that incident before I started offering to buy people food.
A couple good "rules" to follow when giving food are:
Give food only if they ask for food.
Give something sealed, like a bag of chips or a sandwich box sealed with a sticker.
My lunch routine is to pick up a sub sandwich and a drink, but if a homeless person along the way asks me for food - and then doesn't curse me out when I pass by - I just pay a few cents extra to upgrade my meal to a combo with chips and then drop off the chips on my way back.
The 2nd point is kind of important because some messed-up people will spit in food (or worse) and then "kindly" give it to the homeless.
A guy I pass every day stands outside with a sign that says "homeless vet, hungry, anything helps." So one day I tried to give him a fresh bagel I had in the car and he just said "Nah, I'm good." No thanks or anything.
Most beggars on the street are there for cash, there are plenty of ways to get food if you're homeless in most cities.
LazyCon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:46:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homeless people aren't supposed to take food. People poison it a lot and leftovers can get you sick. Cash is better, but sealed food containers are find too. As long as they don't take a can opener obviously, or heating.
I had one guy tell me this when I offered him my leftovers from a pretty high end dinner, and he demanded cash instead. Where is this epidemic of people poisoning food to give to the homeless?
LazyCon ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:59:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't call it an epidemic but it's often enough that social workers do tell them not to accept unsealed food(though most do anyways). Also eating after other people is a good way to get sick and nothing makes being homeless and hungry worse than the flu or diarrhea.
p4lm3r ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:24:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This must be area specific, as I work in conjunction with the United Way and their Mini-MACH(Midlands Area Consortium for the Homeless) program and I have never heard this ever. I also work directly with a ton of homeless, and they will happily take prepared food if we are cooking.
Again, my region may not be representative of elsewhere, I am just surprised if it is a thing, United Way and the other partners haven't brought it up.
Casult ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:10:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's interesting they are worried about getting sick from actual leftovers, people around here with jobs and money are dumpster diving for food out of wanting to recycle.
It's pretty shit advice if it means refusing the only guy who offers to give you anything that night. And it only furthers the unfair stereotype that they might not be homeless/hungry, or only want it for drugs
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Assuming someone did not spit back into a container, how are you suggesting food is contaminated? from what is someone getting sick if they do not share the utensil?
If we're talking about partially eaten leftovers, you don't need to have shared the utensil. The utensil touched the leftovers at some point, so saliva, viruses and bacteria are transferred.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then cut off the portion that has been exposed. Problem solved.
I was going to say "who the fuck poisons homeless people?" But then I remembered that some people are sadistic pieces of shit, and like preying on the less fortunate. That's pretty fucked up.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:06:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Aren't supposed to", according to what rule, regulation, or law? Who sets the conduct on what they are 'suppose' to do? Exactly who or what entity has, in your mind /u/lazycon, dictated what is and is not 'suppose' to occur?
Umm.. that's a pretty bold statement. Can you back up that a lot of people poison food they give to the homeless?
I mean that seems even less tenable than the old poison Halloween candy story that's completely fake (there has been one semi-related case, a father tried to kill his son with poison candy at Halloween).
There were cases of restaurants bleaching their food before throwing it in a dumpster. But that's a long way off from handing someone poisoned food.
I was in a Pret a Manger recently (a sandwich shop). This young lady walked in with a homeless guy and had him pick out whatever he wanted. Then she bought it for him. It was really sweet, and a good way of getting around the problems you mention regarding tainted food.
wtfduud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now you made me remember the story of the guy who put razorblades in candy.
Really? I gave food once after telling the same guy I didn't have money an hour earlier (I'm in college so I really didn't have any), but the guy was super grateful for the candy I shared with him.
It sucks to receive those kind of responses but don't let it stop you. Anyone says that and you can immediately label them as a fraud just looking for drug/booze money. At the very least you know for the next time you see them. And at best it's a chance to show some love to someone who needs it.
I was grabbing lunch downtown once and asked a homeless guy (who is a regular in our town) if he wanted to grab a burrito with me. He asked where I was going and I said probably just Chipotle. He goes, "Ehh... I'm kinda holding out for some Tio Alberto's..."
Another time, my wife and I made a bunch of breakfast burritos, and went walking downtown to hand them out to anyone that wanted them. One gentleman became very angry and aggressive, and made some strong advances toward my wife, so we had to book it out of there. She was pretty shaken up, and it was pretty clear he had some issues with mental illness. I saw a news story somewhere the following week that the same man had been arrested for slapping a little boy in the face who was just walking by with his mom.
Interacting with homeless folks can be such a mixed bag, because you never know what background they are coming from. I used to be in the habit of inviting folks to lunch with me, and talking with them for half an hour or so. Much harder to do now with a wife and kids. Reactions ran the gamut from people who genuinely seemed to appreciate the meal and the human interaction, and people who declined altogether. I'd usually still buy them something to eat after, if they seemed like they didn't want to lose half an hour of holding a sign. It's tough to not let the difficult reactions become disheartening, but it totally makes up for it when you get to have a great, encouraging talk with someone and learn about their life and experiences.
tmntnut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll usually ask if they're hungry, if they say yes I'll swing by a drive thru and grab a meal for them. Couple times I ran into the same lady outside of a convenience store and bought her a little cuban sandwich, every time I've done that the person was grateful but I've also always asked before hand if they'd like a meal. I've never given money because I used to have a problem with substance abuse and I am not about to enable anybody else, I will however put a meal in their belly if they're in need.
Buying them a sandwich and giving them your shitty leftovers are two very different things. Many homeless people are not starving so being offended when they turn down your half eaten piece of pizza shouldn't come as a surprise. That said buying them a $5 sandwich from subway should be fine...
One time I went to give a homeless dude some money and he said he'd rather food cause he couldn't trust himself with the money so I bought him a burger.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does it? Are you being charitable for them or yourself?
One time my boyfriend and I were eating on the patio of a restaurant and a homeless lady approached us. She asked for money claiming she and her kids hadn't eaten in days and that they were left inside her van nearby. Visibly she appeared to be abusing meth or some other hard drugs. She looked like she hadn't slept in days and her skin was riddled with sores and scabs. I told her to go get her kids, bring them to us and we could all sit and have dinner with each other and that I'd happily pay. She smiled and thanked me and went off to "get her kids". She never returned.
You can't buy dope with food (usually). Know that the vast majority of beggars are junkies that will use that change to buy drugs. If you're okay with that, then by all means, give them a dollar. But I choose not to. I might spare the few coins I have in my car occasionally but I'm not paying for someone's next pill of dope. Generally I ignore panhandlers, especially the overzealous ones.
I was talking to a homeless guy once and he told me he'd been fucked with too many times with people putting things in food just to mess with him that he doesn't trust food anymore. I know this isn't always the case but he made a valid argument on why he didn't want the half a sandwich I had leftover from lunch.
Same here. I gave a rotisserie chicken to a begger once. Looked in my rear view mirror as I drove away to see him throwing it in the trash... Man I would of ate the shit out of that chicken.
I went to see the Red Hot Chili Peppers in Louisville a few days ago and saw a woman sitting outside of a white castle. She directly asked for food and I gladly go her some. I do understand though and I have done that before and gotten shit for it, but she directly asked for it.
Even though most homeless people will probably want money for alcohol, it's understandable that they won't accept food from strangers, you wouldn't either. Unless it's packaged and unopened, you don't know what someone might have done with/put in the food.
I've gotten food for homeless before. I've seen them break down that someone actually cared and I've seen them wait till they thought they couldn't see me and threw it out and went back to their panhandling business.
Genuine people who are down on their life versus the assholes begging when they COULD be working.
I stopped giving money to homeless, so I keep a box of granola bars and case of water for any homeless I see. If they reject the food then 9/10 times they're not really homeless. I usually demand an explanation why they are rejecting the food, most of the time "I'm not hungry or thirsty, I just need money to buy essentials" then usually I follow up with "Oh my apologies, can I get those essentials for you?" .. "oh, no that's okay, uhh thanks, im good, i can get them myself if you give me money"
Had the same issue in Indy, tried giving a panhandler a unopened box of granola bars. He tried telling me he had crohn's disease and couldn't eat them. Just shook my head and drove away.
I feel like that makes sense though. People's diseases, allergies, or intolerances aren't going to go away just because society may see them as too poor to refuse food. If they accepted them they might be able to try to give them to other homeless people, but they shouldn't eat things that will put them in a worse position than missing a meal.
Granola bars are still a good idea on your part though, since they are sealed and have a shelf life. Most people can eat them, and the ones who can't know they can't(nuts/wheat).
janiekh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They get angry either because they're not actually homeless or because they'd rather spend money on drugs. It's better than giving money.
Niadain ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They cant know if you tampered with it though.
bclagge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well... beggars can't be choosers and all...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure they can, I just won't give them anything if they do act choosy.
Niadain ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:48:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah... these beggars can. Because there's a choice to go hungry or risk that kid who bought you a mcd burger having snuck glass into it.
Not always the best thing to do, but often easiest. After speaking to many homeless people often they find they have loads of sandwiches but no money to get a hostel that night. It's hard but giving food isn't a simple solution.
Phones services are much cheaper than youd think in certain places. $30 a month with Metro Pcs. I would be suprised to see a honeless person without a phone where i live
[deleted] ยท -21 points ยท Posted at 17:20:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:47:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1) libraries
2) phones are important for getting jobs
3) you can get web accessible phones for probably less than 50 bucks
Not sure I understand your comment. Are you saying every homeless person on the planet is a victim of their own ineptitude? There are no other factors at play, life is that simple?
Those that become homeless by their own choices don't garner any sympathy from me personally. Those thrust into such unfortunate circumstance by external factors are a different case but there's no easy way to differentiate them superficially at least
Fair enough. Your solution is simple. Ignore them. Solved it for you.
If I'm being honest, I usually do the same, but I'll tell you what I don't do. I don't cry on reddit because some homeless guy was mean to me when he turned down my leftovers.
And I don't tell people to "get the fuck off the median".
Matter of opinion. I'm of the opinion that people who cant even be smart enough to stay clean (please save me the bleeding heart. I know its difficult, it does not matter. A lot of things adults need to do are difficult.) Then you dont deserve help. We all know the risks of drugs. We all know how to behave. Im tired of supporting the people who just dont care.
Take opiods, for example. Individuals taking opioids for genuine pain can quickly develop addictions that lead to opioid abuse or even the use of heroin.
No. I just got through explaining I think that's stupid.
Also didnt I say to save me the bleeding heart? We've all heard this opinion. A lot of things are hard, but we all know how to act. If you choose to ignore that knowledge and fuck yourself over then I'm not interested in helping out. There are too many people who have legitimately tragic lives who end up on the street I'd rather help before getting to Jack and Jill Junkie.
Is addiction awful? Yes. Is it a horror show? Absolutely. Is it my problem? No.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
time
So many people think that if you find yourself in a shitty situation then you must have obviously done it to yourself and you are no longer worthy of common consideration. It's the "I work hard to make sure my life isn't shit, so why should I feel sorry for you when you did it to yourself." Empathy is an endangered species.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's either one or the other. You either deserve to die a slow, painful death, or you deserve food. Saying "they don't deserve either" makes no sense whatsoever.
Oh, stick it in that bank that won't talk to you until you've got an address?
Don't lecture me on how to be a virtuous poor person, go out and be one all by yourself and show everyone your great inner strength and wisdom. While maintaining a healthy diet, good hygiene, no drugs (that means coffee too you filthy addict), and no frivolous spending.
Go show all those hobos why they american dream just somehow isn't quite working for them. Just don't forget to let go of mommy's hand first.
I'm currently homeless. In my city homeless people don't go hungry. In fact, we put on about 20 pounds.
There are places that provide food, there's a Restaurant that gives you two free slices of pizza if you ask.
You can get a day pass to ride the bus for less than $5. I say if anything, I'd be able to accomplish a lot more in a day if I didn't have to walk everywhere with a giant backpack.
Spend like $20, get a bunch of day passes and just hand those out.
The shelter here requires you to blow zeroes in order to stay the night.
[deleted] ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 17:46:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, getting called out for lying about being homeless in a thread about calling someone out for lying to be homeless. At least the one in the video gets money. What do these guys get?
If you'd quit blowing zeroes and blew rich people instead you'd probably make better money and then maybe you could stay somewhere other then a shelter
You act like someone who is recently homeless and is probably trying to better their situation shouldn't have that device. This is the stigma that gets attached to people for no reason. We should be helping the homeless become homeowners. A phone can hold a resume, send email, word process, browse for jobs , etc... Fuck you.
relax kemosabe. you can get a smartphone and data for free through SNAP. It's just an amusing reality that everyone is connected even when they have practically nothing
Last time I went to the Grand Canyon there were signs all over saying not to feed the wild animals. We didn't and my daughter almost got attacked by a squirrel because she wouldn't share her chips with it.
You can get food anywhere though. How many adults die of hunger in the US? It doesn't make sense to ask for food. Five people drive up and give you burgers, there's only so much you need to eat before the food is no good because you don't have a fridge. You gonna give them canned goods then? Okay, they will just carry that around with all their other stuff, hope they have a way to cook it.
I'm not saying money is the best thing to give them, but it beats food
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:22:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did this at a red light once and some girl who was with him followed my car to the parking lot I pulled into (about a quarter mile away), knocked on my window while I was sitting in my parked car, and got aggressive when I declined to give her cash.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:27:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give a man a fish and he'll eat a day, teach him how to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime.
Granted, they'll often just waste money on drugs and booz and learn nothing. But giving them food does nothing more then perpetuate their situation either.
If you want to help these people, loose your apathy for the homeless on the community and political stage.
If you see how many veterans end up homeless because of untreated mental conditions they developed while serving, it just piles on top of how bad they are treated once they get home and even more so when they leave the army or are ejected from it because they are no longer fit for duty due to untreated PTSD and other traumas.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:54:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...or whatever you want, or nothing at all? I don't understand the "fight against fake homeless." If you want to look dirty, and act like a bum for a living, that's your choice. It's not like these people have salaries, healthcare, vacations, and benefits. They're fucking bums. If you don't want to give them anything, don't.
I know this is a pretty common suggestion and as someone who spent about a year homeless when I was younger, it IS much appreciated but after a certain point you have had as much food as you can literally stomach. Not to mention all the places that feed the homeless as well. So yes, if you want to give food, do so! It helps more than you know and sometimes people will give you such incredible food that you wouldn't choose to purchase yourself (for cost or other reasons) and it's great. However sometimes, it's the other necessities like finding a place to sleep and shower for the night, transportation, etc. that keep people out there longer. So don't be offended if they politely turn down your food. It's possible that their entire backpack is full of food or there is an entire grocery bag of food just behind that median. I often times found myself bringing back and giving away much of the food at the shelter that I simply couldn't finish and had no way to store. Many of the older homeless guys just don't have the energy to stand out there panhandling. An older gentleman named Paul who showed me the ropes taught me to accept everything graciously even if we can't use it because those people are trying to help and you don't want to offend them. Also, there is almost always someone around that could use it that isn't out their panhandling for whatever reason.
And yes, sometimes people use money for drugs or alcohol too. But I always saw it like this: If you are giving money to someone, you are giving it to them. There aren't any strings attached. You are doing it because you want to help. Choosing to not give money is fine but once you do, you have to be okay with that person using it as they see giving them the greatest benefit. Even if that is something that you don't agree with, like in the case that the person is sick with an addiction. This was actually more wisdom from same homeless man named Paul that I mentioned above. I respected him incredibly and we spent countless hours after the sun went down just talking philosophy, science, his time in in the military, etc. He was a vet that had been out there homeless about ten years when I was there and we had this discussion about the morality of people using panhandling to support their heroin addiction. In the end, we both agreed.
I once read on reddit that socks were simple things that homeless people valued highly. So I went to Costco and bought a large thing of socks. Wrapped them up in two pair combos and handed them out during the holidays. People like that were overjoyed to get an actual present, especially one that can fulfill so many needs in their situation.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's this homeless guy that lives behind the a retail chain-store that I pass by on occasion. He just sits there with a sign that says homelessness can happen to anyone.
I asked him the one day what he could use. He said, a coffee and some gloves would be great. Got the guy some coffee & doughnuts, he seemed so happy. I hope he's not conning me
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they usually aren't upset if you ask first. Would you rather be asked of you wanted a cheeseburger or just have one thrust into your hands
This is why they go to cars. Don't really have time to park, and take you into a restaurant.
I was in Germany, and a friend of mine was approached by a woman holding a sign. He took her to a restaurant, and bought some food and said "take this to your kids so they can eat." The person at the window said "you do know you can't return this, right?" yeah, we did, as we walked away, she was arguing with the person at the window trying to return the food item.
I had friends go into a store with a woman to buy supplies for her baby and kids, ended up spending $40ish euro, and walk away feeling like they helped. They didn't think that her asking for a receipt because "police might not believe she bought it herself" was a shady thing. Yeah, she returned all of that stuff.
This is why having a public homeless service is better. It's a difficult thing to solve, but if you have decent homeless shelters or help in your area, that's the best thing to donate to.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They actually don't want food and there is a legitimate reason why. You have to remember, in this crazy world that we live in, some people are absolute pieces of shit. They will intentionally sabatoge the food that they are giving to the homeless. Putting gross or dangerous stuff in it. Think of the "it's just a prank bro" kinda people. That's why they often refuse food. Plus, you only need to eat a couple times a day. Food isn't going to buy them clothing, shelter, or hygiene products.
b3ar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as a side note, I have seen a few posts on Reddit from people talking about begging and homelessness. Apparently, it is not unheard of for people to put shit like glass and razors into food they give away.
I don't know if there is any truth to that or not, but it definitely changes how I think about people who do not accept random sandwiches.
Yeah that sounds about as common as the epidemic of razor blades inside of Halloween candy, as in it seems like a horseshit story that has never happened that's accepted as truth for some reason. I'm not homeless though, so maybe I just don't hear the real truth. Anyways, starving is going to hurt you a lot more than a 0.00000000000000001% chance that someone is trying to poison your food. If I wanted to kill a homeless panhandler I'd just buy them enough heroin to OD on.
All that aside, you'll do the most good if you donate to shelters and food banks. True poor/homeless people will be able to make use of them and you won't just be funding a drug habit or some douchebag yuppie who thinks it's easier to scam people than work for a living.
Also, just because a panhandler has a car doesn't mean they're not homeless, living out of a car is a deeply unpleasant lifestyle that next to no one would choose for themselves.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Google search: "homeless poisoned" and you see that there are many people poisoning the homeless. It's a far greater risk than what you perceive it to be.
oh... don't get me wrong... I am sure there is plenty of shenanigans. That being said, what percentage of "glass shards or poison in food" would it take for you to not accept leftover sammies?
Not always wanted or accepted. My wife and I ran into someone about 10 years ago who asked us for money because she was hungry. This was in a large parking lot surrounded by numerous shops, a grocery store and a deli. We told her we'd go into the grocery store to buy her food and she refused because she "didn't have any way to carry it around". By the time we told her we'd buy her a meal in the deli she was walking off. That said, I still give money in occasion and shit like this makes me feel like I shouldn't even bother anymore.
ylsf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people will throw out the food when you leave because then others won't donate money to them if they see that they have food already. (those that aren't really "hungry" but just want money for other stuff). I donate to support agencies only and not to people asking for it on the street but I know that isn't perfect either.
My wife keeps zip lock bags of cereal in her car for when she's driving through Paterson NJ. The homeless go car to car at the stop lights.
nespid0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to give the same guy whatever spare change I had 3 4 times a week at this one intersection. After a short while, he would recognize my car and walk over through traffic to me, smile, I'd put some change in his cup and he'd say, "thank you, God bless."
One day, after a year or so, I introduced myself, shook his hand, and he introduced himself as Roy. I told him he's gotta start earning the money and I expect him to have a joke for me next time.
Seriously, socks. It's one of the few things homeless people need and are in short supply of. If you wanna be the homeless MVP take a few toiletries such as deodorant, toothbrush, toothpaste, hand sanitizer, and roll it up into one or two pair of socks.
Slylock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One time I saw a homeless guy with a sign that said "hungry" and nothing else. Usually I go for these. I stopped at a gas station and bought a big ass sandwich and a huge bottle of water. I brought it to him and he said "does it have cheese on it?"
I said "dude, its food just pick the cheese off." He did.
Fast forward a few months and the same dude has the same sign. I bought him another sandwich. I give him the sandwich and he says "I don't want the cheese". I said "this is the second time I've done this for you, quit complaining about the cheese!"
He said "I'm lactose intolerant, I don't want to shit my pants here."
That's what I did once. A lady was panhandling outside of Target on Mother's Day with a sign saying she couldn't feed her kids. So I went in, bought some ready-quick food, chips, and the like and brought them out to her. I also threw in a mother's day card and a flower just for the sake of it.
Yep. I gave a homeless man some leftover hotdogs and fries near a trainsration. The train station was elevated so I saw the him share the food with another homeless guy.
Many of them won't accept food, mostly for security reasons.
I heard that it happened several times that people gave homeless people sandwiches with needles or a crap in them, as a sort of cynic and reckless prank.
I beg to differ I remember specifically trading food for the glorious quarter or more that I had pack in my lunch for school. Or trading food for food but hey it all works.
We did exactly this, a huge group of us had just had dinner at a pizza place, homeless guy was begging us for money for food as we were getting on our bus. We gave him basically 2 pizzas, he threw them on the ground, and stomped on them. He didn't want food. Cussed us out for not giving him money
My mum gives cash to homeless people. She buys an extra sandwich at lunch, if any are near a restaurant she's at she'll ask the waiter to send them a plate, she donates online to reputable charities, but she always gives cash to people too. Says it's not her choice what they spend it on, and as someone formerly very poor, she says having cash and being able to buy what you want is liberating. She figures if they've no dignity and are lying about being homeless, the five dollars or whatever is worth the risk in case it's someone who is actually down in life. Mental health issues run in the family too so it's definitely a different perspective. I'm not sure how I feel about it, but you can't always tell who is and isn't legit. Sometimes a warm smile and genuine concern go a long way, too.
My high school baseball team once gave a homeless dude in Florida a box full of subs and chips we weren't going to eat. Perfectly good food, he just left that shit out in the sun to get all nasty.
Cash is king
wtfduud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most people don't carry food around with them, but most people have cash.
I once gave the other half of my subway sandwich to a homeless woman, she looked at it and threw it in to the bushes right in front of me! I was so pissed, I actually wanted that sandwich.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:50:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except they don't want the food and throw it away. Seen it twice.
Very true. I used to work in downtown Boston and I have seen it all. I've seen beggars ask for money while people waited in line to get food and when the person offers to buy food installs the homeless guy just says forget it and walks away. I've also seen a lady give a homeless guy an orange and as she walked away he threw it at her. I've also seen a homeless guy begging for money and all around him were hundreds of pennies that he would throw down and leave there because he didn't want pennies. I've seen shit. I haven't given a penny to a homeless person after seeing this sort of shit all day everyday.
Dan000 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:58:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tried to give a Snickers to a guy panhandling once... He tells me, "No thanks, I'm watching my sugar intake."
I bought a bag of pretzels for a lady outside of a Walgreens once and when I offered them to her as I left she says, "oh I don't like pretzels" and refused to take them...
yep, we always keep granola bars and protein bars in our glove box. that way we're not contributing to any drug/alcohol problems, and we're also not helping the fakers. we want to help the homeless, but people like this woman drive me nuts.
I agree with you and do just that. One time, I work in construction, I tried to give a guy my business card and said I'd give him a job tomorrow (site was right where he was panhandling and I actually needed labour) the guy jumped back like I had pulled out a gun or something.
I've been burned too many times by dudes trying to sell back the food. Give them food and watch them eat it. If you don't have the time to listen to one of their stories while they eat your gift, your gift is halfassed and is not helping.
I can't imagine a less useful task than praying for someone, but not everyone who begs is homeless, and not everyone understands what they need vs what they want.
It's often more complicated than that. After talking to many homeless people, it seems they get loads of ยฃ2 sandwiches but no change for a hostel which you can understand is frustrating. It's a complex problem to solve but money or sandwiches alone can't solve it.
I did this once. Saw a homeless guy on my way to grocery store. Picked up bread, peanut butter, and jelly for him. He threw the bag at my car and damaged it. They don't want food, they want money for booze.
Funny (maybe sad) story, my brother went to a McDonald's a few years back to see a homeless person begging out front. He asked my brother for some cash, and my brother said that he got him on his way out.
My brother proceeds to buy the guy a large soda, 3 big macs and 2 large fries and hands it to him on his way out. The homeless man threw it all on the floor saying that he didn't want food, he wanted money.
Needless to say, he's never given to a panhandler (without a license) again, which is unfortunate.
He could go on with multiple stories that have turned out with similar levels of ingratitude, but that one sticks out.
You cracked the case arm chair psychologist! You now know my brother better than I do! You also know the area I'm from better than I do, and have the means to provide every beggar with money! Good for you.
Hope you stay this cynical for the rest of your life
gonna assume the "cynical" one is the person who thinks "i wasn't shown proper gratitude for my act of charity, therefore i'll never perform one again"
but there are worse words than cynical you might use
My grandpa said he tried to give a homeless man a bag of potatoes and he refused them solely because "he doesn't like potatoes" if your really homesless you don't care if you don't like something, it'll help you survive
sicurri ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the best way to tell if the panhandler is really in need, I gave food to a homeless guy, looked desperate. He threw the food on the ground and spat in my face demanding cash.
People who are suffering from drug addiction don't need your leftover food. Just don't engage them if you have some moral superiority complex.
[deleted] ยท 172 points ยท Posted at 18:38:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who's literally been unemployed, homeless, penniless, and living out of a tent in the woods for close to a year, people like this are a real insult to me because I never once panhandled or begged for change or anything close to it.
Ya they could have recorded her sign and stuff while she was begging and her actually getting in the car or a whole host of other things instead of shouting about how viral she's gonna be.
Crazy lady: "You're barking up the wrong tree, I'm telling ya"
Man behind camera: "I bark wherever I want to bark!"
Crazy lady: "No, you don't bark around me!!"
Beautiful.
mwilkez ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 17:20:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work as a social worker in a skilled nursing facility, and have several residents who panhandle for money on a daily basis despite having Medicare, Medicaid, Disability Income, a roof over their heads, television, and 3 square meals a day with snacks in between. I once pointed out to one of my residents that her sign was misleading because it said she was homeless, and she responded with, "It works better this way." I've even seen some of my residents claim to be disabled vets when they have no military background, but lost their legs from drinking too much and passing out in the snow. Sorry folks, giving money out to panhandlers is just not a good idea.
This will probably get buried anyways but there's so many stories of shitty homeless people, I wanted to share a nice/funny one!
Just yesterday I'm out shopping with my 4 year old daughter and we're about to grab some lunch and head home. I'm driving through a shopping mall parking lot and there's a young dude, maybe 25ish and his dog sitting on the sidewalk. Obviously dirty and carrying a large backpack but he had a little cardboard sign that said "homeless and hungry". I glance at it and feel a little bad but then he flips the sign as I'm driving by and it says "smile life is beautiful" and it literally made me smile. So I go through the drive thru and grab him a cheeseburger/fries and a drink and me and my daughter park and walk up to him and give him the lunch. He was SO HAPPY. He talked to my daughter for a minute and told her his dogs name was Boo and that it was originally after Boosie but his dog was way too sweet and didn't live up to the name so he decided to say it's name was Boo from Monsters Inc instead ๐
I brought 5 bucks to give him too for dog food but saw that his dog had plenty of food and water which made me happy that his dog was a priority for him so I gave him the 5 bucks anyways.
I usually don't give money out like that but this guy just seemed like he needed some help and I'm glad I stopped!
I hope this takes off. It is a disgusting practice.
Edit: Here was an experience of mine in Richmond that I posted about some time ago:
Several years back, I had a couple of weeks vacation I had to take, but my wife had to work. I realized that after a decade of living in the city, I had never really explored it. So for two weeks I just rode around on my bike checking things out.
Not being a daily rider, I had to rest a lot, and had stopped at Leigh and Belvidere in the shade trees. I watched the panhandlers, curious as to how much they made, and was there for about a half hour. I was watching a girl, and this guy rolls up on a bike. Sandy brown hair, mustache, mid-40's talks to the girl, gave her a McDonald's bag of food (Saw her eat something out of it) they swapped places, and she rode off.
I ride off, cruised some more and later that afternoon, I see the same girl at 95 & Boulevard. Huh.
So as I continued riding the city, I started recognizing more and more faces. Shot the breeze with them at stoplights. This one guy was pretty funny, so when I saw him, we would chat for a while, and eventually I started sharing food and whatnot with him.
Long story short, we become friendly enough that I asked how much he was pulling in, where he lived, best places to panhandle, things of that nature, and after I shared a joint with him once, he started opening up. It turned out that the Sandy-haired guy was the leader. He had a van, (That I'm pretty sure I saw- Older white van that had a bike rack on the top, and on the rear) brought everyone to a central area (My guess is that it moved around to avoid detection, on the day of the conversation it was at the porn store on Boulevard that is now a taco shop), and they walked/rode off to their assigned area. After morning traffic was over, they took a break and switched places so folks going to lunch would see a new face. Same thing in the afternoon. I was impressed with the organization of it all. And it wasn't like these were weird people- We had great conversations, and from the way he described it to me, they all lived in various places, indicating that they had apartments/homes. Once while I was talking with him, the sandy-haired guy showed up, they walked over to a quiet spot, talked for a minute, he gave the guy a bag of food, and left.
I also had a hunch that there was some not-insignificant marijuana business going on. There were several small things that pointed to this, and it made me wonder how many of the people giving money and being told "God bless" are palming a bag. It seemed at the time that the guy I befriended somehow knew which car to walk toward, and I notice it still with other handlers. Yeah, sometimes you see a hand stick out with a couple of bucks, but there are a lot of times you will see the panhandler start in that direction before their window is down. They handler will also lean in a bit more, rather than taking the money at arm's length.
It is a scam, no doubt. Bear in mind that these events were a very minor part of my two weeks- I was not out to bust up a panhandling ring, so I didn't gather evidence or anything to give the police. I don't see what they could do about it anyway. Nothing prevents me from writing a sign and standing on a corner this afternoon.
It is funny- I don't live in the city anymore, but have had to go there several times over the past month, and have seen the sandy-haired guy twice (It is a bit more gray now) He still has a mustache, wears a ball cap, and rides a red bicycle. Once he was riding down Belvidere toward Leigh, and the second he was at Lee's buying a ton of chicken. I nearly asked him how business was going, but ultimately decided against it.
Wow, this went a lot longer than I thought. On a side note, if you or anyone reading has the chance- Please grab a bike, and ride around the city. There is a LOT of cool stuff that you miss when driving. I was quite out of shape at the time, and didn't find it taxing at all.
TL;DR: Many (If not all) of the panhandlers you see in the usual spots are a scam. Read it all if you want more evidence.
lapekes ยท 821 points ยท Posted at 16:30:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped giving to the homeless when one day I didn't have any spare change, but I did have a sandwich that was untouched that I just purchased which I was taking back to the office to enjoy.
I offered the guy the sandwich, he looks me dead in the eye, and asks "WTF am I going to do with that???"
Some people are just hungry. I happily give them what food I have or buy them food.
I don't give people money usually unless it's a totally insignificant amount (like literally whatever coin change I have in my pocket). Some people indeed only just want something to eat. But I've run into a few other people:
Woman said her car ran out of gas near by and just needed some money to get a gas jug and a gallon of gas. I was with 2 coworkers. Two of us were immediately skeptical. This isn't an area where you can just leave your car at the side of the road. But the other gave her some money and we gave her a tiny bit reluctantly to not look bad (I know, dumb reason). I see that same lady 2 days later near a bar with the same story.
Was eating outside an Italian place. A lady comes by asking for money for food cuz she was hungry. I had 2 fresh breadsticks, still wrapped in foil. I offer them to her. She gives me this scornful look "I don't want those, I wanna buy me a sandwich!" Yeah. I don't think so.
Was on the escalator and some dude asked me for a dollar. I did have $0.35 in change on me and I was like "sorry, I only have 35 cents if you want it." He says "give it to me" (really not very polite now is it). I shrug give him a quarter and dime, he takes it and THROWS IT down the escalator. "That's what I think about your $0.35". I'm thinking "what a fucking moron" while a girl wearing tight pants goes up the escalator (the opposite direction). He then turns and proceeds to cat call her. "Ooooh baby, you look good in those pants."
Walking down the promenade and a middle aged lady is asking for money for food because she's hungry. Brother feels bad and asks if we should do something. I said we can buy her food, but don't give her money. So he goes up to her and asks her if he can buy her some food. She tells him "yes, there's a grocery store up there, please give me gift cards." "Uh, I thought you wanted food." "Yes, I need to buy certain groceries and the easiest way is to give me gift cards to the store..." I look at my brother and shake my head.
BSB8728 ยท 203 points ยท Posted at 16:50:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I had a dime for every time my husband has fallen for the "out of gas, no money" story, I'd be a millionaire. My sons and I have to take his arm and steer him away whenever we see one of those people approaching him.
I got ripped off for $120 from a guy with that story. I had never been scammed before, and I had no skepticism at all. Now I'm a lot more cynical. That experience still makes me angry
had a similar encounter, and i helped them out with 120 euro. of course it was a scam. it still makes me angry when i think back, not because of the money, because luckily i'm in a position that such amounts of money are not a problem, but more because i really wanted to help someone and just got fooled. and i particularly don't like that this incident changed me, i never will be able to trust a stranger which asks me for a favour again. on the other hand, maybe it was good to learn this lesson, the world is very often not a nice or fair place, and we should be careful who we trust.
Exactly. I look at it now as paying a $120 fee for an invaluable lesson, so that's some comfort. It's good to know that other people have been in that situation too
They usually claim they lost their wallet or something and promise to repay you. They'll take down your address or phone number, saying they'll mail it back and a whole lot more as soon as they get home for getting them out of a jam. It doesn't hit you that it's a scam until days later when you never hear from them again - or worse, you see them on the street a few weeks later pulling the same shit to someone else.
OniTan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:15:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why? Why not like $10? What gas tank even holds $120?!
He said he also needed food and stuff for his wife and kid, both of whom he brought me to meet at his car. I was also just not thinking straight. Hindsight is 20/20, as they say
I got ripped $40, and at a time when it really hurt. Every decent person gets hit eventually, mine was from a decently dressed black man with a massive sob story - 11pm, lost his wallet, needed train ticket money back home, elderly mom taking care of his kids, etc. Still pisses me off that I was so green to fall for it.
ariehh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:50:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was on vacation near the Mont Blanc in France and some Bulgarian man walked up to me if I had some money for him because his car was low on fuel and he did not have the right currency. We were in the mountains, going downhill. I asked him if he could not just roll downhill, knowing that there was a fuel station there. (That fuel station accepted a lot of currencies since it was near a few borders.) But no that wasn't possible because "his car was too heavy to roll on nearly flat surfaces". So I offered to tow him (I always go on vacation prepared and have that sort of stuff with me) but he got angry and scolded at me in his home language and then sped off, screeching tires UPHILL.
juskajo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:29:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I had a dime for every time my husband has fallen for the "out of gas, no money" story, I'd be a millionaire.
But because your husband presumably hands over a lot more than $0.10 every time he falls for that story, you guys would still be in the red.
I gave a young girl some gas. I questioned her a bit about it... actually, just long enough for her boyfriend to come out with some coke. I was too dumb to ask for a couple of cans.
I see those scammers a lot. One time I was at a gas station and someone came up to me with the same old story. I told them to grab their gas can and I will fill it up. Well... they actually had a gas can and brought it to me to fill up after I filled my car. So I guess there's at least one person who told the truth. That or there is some type of black market using gas as currency.
podocks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:17:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you had that dime, you'd be the panhandler in this situation!
I gave a young girl some gas. I questioned her a bit about it... actually, just long enough for her boyfriend to come out with some coke. I was too dumb to ask for a couple of cans.
In Ohio and Indiana I've frequently had people pull up in a relatively new car with a sob story about how they went the wrong way for hundreds of miles and are out of gas and then ask if you can play to fill up their car a bit.
How about the asshole who jumped up from a stoop as I walked by and exclaimed that his daughter was inside his apartment having an asthma attack and that he needed $10 so he could run to the pharmacy for an inhaler.
I was extremely skeptical, and told him as much. I also told him that I really hoped he was telling the truth, and that he would pay the kind deed forward in the future.
A couple weeks later, I was walking down the same sidewalk with my wife, and the same guy jumps up from the same stoop and launches into the same story about his asthmatic daughter. I flipped out and bellowed about what a pathetic piece of shit he was, which I'm sure led to no self-reflection at all on his part.
joyfall ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:39:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The damn gift cards!
My cousin is a drug addict and very manipulative. She's come running to my mom and all of my aunts at some point or another begging for money. She's done this for years, who knows how many people she's swindled. It's always a sob story. Mom caught on when my cousin claimed twice in two months that she didn't have enough money to pay her annual drivers car renewal fees.
One day she shows up at my parents house crying, saying she doesn't have enough money for food for her kids. My mom brings her straight to the supermarket and fills the cart with milk, eggs, bread, fruit, and other necessities and heads to the checkout. My cousin freaks out at this point and breaks down crying at the checkout, begging my mom to also buy some prepaid credit cards. My mom is a kind woman but snapped at this point, telling her she was on a fixed budget but was paying about $100 for groceries for her niece who should be thankful.
My cousin stopped visiting after that. She's also since gone to rehab and gotten custody of her three kids back.
Last time I gave money I was at a gas station and a lady was distraught by her car. She didn't have money for gas. I knew she was lying but figured what the hell and gave her a $10 bill I had. Go to use the card in the pump and it isn't working so I have to go inside. There she is buying cigarettes. She looked at me and gets flustered and says "I uhhh, do you, do you want ... a candy bar?".
I wasn't trying to catch you lying miss, frankly I don't care, if that makes you feel bad then you probably deserve that feeling.
I don't understand why some people are such assholes. I have stood with a sign before but never verbally begged. Usually my intent was to get money for a hotel room so I could shower and actually get a good night's rest. At the same time though I surely wouldn't turn down any kind of help, food, tampons, prayers, water, job leads...really anything. I thought it was funny a couple times I had people like ask me if I was ok with taking change and be apologetic that that's all they had...like change helps so why wouldn't I take it? The worst though is creepy dudes who try to convince me to get in their car or want me to meet them in an alley to "make some more money," no thank you.
Damn escalator dude was a total cunt, fuck that guy.
adrr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:43:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They'll scam you if you buy them food as well. Common scam here is ask a person to buy you food from a grocery store then they return it and take the cash. Stop giving them anything and give to the charities who specialize in helping people in need.
I had a guy yell at me to take my change back since it was an insignificant amount. "A quarter?! I can't even buy a coffee with that!" So I took my change back and walked off. I see him regularly, but I'll be damned if I ever offer him any change.
I had a guy walk up to me in a grocery store parking lot, where there's also a gas station on the front corner of the lot.
He gestures to a car parked to the side of the gas station, and tells me he is from out of town, and someone stole his wallet, and he just needs enough money to get gas to get back home.
I look back at his car, and there's a big guy getting into it, and I say to the panhandler "Looks like your problems are about to get worse. Someone is stealing your car."
He looked at me dumbfounded for a moment, so I pointed to the car he had pointed at, and he looks over just as the car is driving off. He looked back at me, gave me a sheepish look, and just walked off.
I'll take 5 quinoa and 7 arugula and I'll be paying by gift cards
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people fuck with food before they give it to the homeless. That's why a lot of them won't take food unless they see you buy it and bring it right to them. Not for nothing but who's gonna investigate a homeless guy getting poisoned or eating a glass sandwich?
I had a homeless person (or what I assumed to be homeless) walk into a BevMo (a large store that sells mostly alcoholic beverages) and proceeded to ask the lady in front of me in line to the cashier for $5. She said no and the person immediately asked me for $5. I too said no, and the person went over to the stand where they had sampler shots of various different liquors. I would have probably given the person food if the same question was asked at a restaurant, but not at BevMo.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Check them coins.
Quarters, dimes, and half-dollars from 1964 and earlier are 90% silver and worth more than their face value. Hang on to them.
Nickles from 1964 and earlier are 35% silver, and worth more than their face value.
Half-Dollars from 1965-1969 are 40% silver and worth more than their face value.
Also the gift cards story... that sounds legit to me. What's she gonna do with grocery store gift cards? Pretty much all she can do is buy groceries. Buying the right foods at the right prices can feed her a lot longer than if you just get her something for now. If she finds some way to turn those gift cards into cash or drugs or something, you know what, fuckin' good on her for her resourcefulness.
What's she gonna do with grocery store gift cards?
Sell them for $0.50 on the dollar and use the cash to get drugs / booze.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:57:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that makes her undeserving of help, why?
I dunno, as someone struggling to ensure I have enough food right now, I can feel for the need to buy the right groceries to last, and I think I would take the risk if someone asked me for gift cards so they could get their own groceries... If I could afford to give.
People trade SNAP EBT cards (basically a debit card for food stamp benefits) for things all the time. For example, I used to work for social services, and smokers in front of our office building would get offered EBT cards in exchange for cigarettes. Not hard to imagine the same thing happening with a gift card. Besides, depending on the location, it's possible that the store sells cigarettes, booze, and/or other items that a gift card could directly purchase.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So would most recipients (and that's the way the system is supposed to work). You can actually still keep the benefits during a transition period even after you're no longer eligible, btw.
There is a small subset of "perpetual recipients" who have decided that they're ok with scraping by on benefits (I'm not talking about people who are unfit for work). At least some of them are probably getting income from illegal (or at least untaxed) sources, but there are a few who just don't see the point in working. Unfortunately, their existence feeds into the "lazy" stereotype, which makes it harder for everyone who's trying to earn their way off of benefits.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, homeless people aren't necessarily starving. There are plenty of real homeless people out there who have plenty of food, a decent phone (which these days can be < $40), toiletries, etc. Those aren't too hard to get in the US. Compare the cost of those things to the cost of rent, which is much higher. Most homeless people are trying to get a place to stay.
I'd love to pick up a homeless person and give them a place to stay for a few weeks, if it would genuinely help them. I'm just afraid I would get robbed or worse.
I've thought about doing this but there are several issues:
I have roommates and a landlord who would not approve.
Robbery is highly unlikely, but any guest might steal your stuff.
People are usually homeless for a reason other than simply "hard times" -- many have mental health issues (including addictions); or less seriously, they might just be difficult people. There's a reason they are out on the street and not crashing on a friend's couch. People with addiction problems are likely to steal from you -- not that this is the worst thing in the world. Unless you have a ton of free time, you may not be able to handle living with someone like this.
If you let a guest stay with you long enough they might be able to claim tenancy and stay longer than you want them to. In some situations it might be possible even if they don't pay you anything. I'm just guessing but it's something to look out for.
Even if the person does not have a legal right to stay with you, you might find it hard to kick them out. Your guest will know where you live and knows you have a soft spot for them and may try to take advantage of that.
So, sheltering a homeless person would be a very admirable, selfless, and radical thing for you to do. But you have to be ready for it. Probably a better course of action would be to volunteer at a homeless shelter and make friends with non-transient homeless people in your community. Maybe you'll find someone you trust enough to let them be a guest in your home.
Said in many more words than I think necessary. But yes, all of those things are reasons why I wouldn't do it. I just wish those reasons weren't a threat, in which case I would happily supply a mattress and even food for a predetermined length of stay.
Exactly. I could steal food if I was really hungry and I have a shitty safe link phone. Most the time I flew a sign it was because I needed money for a hotel room so I could get a shower and some good sleep. But I would never turn down any kind of help whether it be food or tampons.
I have a hard time believing they're gonna come up with 2 months rent to get started, plus don't most places require at least a reference and a pay stub? There are already places homeless can stay in every town I've lived in, at least temporarily.
Once after shopping for groceries, I encountered a panhandler in the parking lot. I didn't have cash, but I had a bag of yogurts... So I gave him a yogurt. He said thanks and I walked to my car.
When I got to my car, I turned around and saw him furiously hurl the yogurt at the ground. WTF!? You didn't have to take the yogurt, brah!
I remember offering a wrap I just bought off a street vendor to two old ladies who were starving. They looked at me and said they couldn't share and needed money.
One time in China, this old lady and her young daughter asked for money. I told them they were looking for dish washers (people to wash dishes) in the restaurants the street over. They left fairly quickly.
In Korea, a woman kept asking for money at a subway. My friend insisted it's fine, she gave her the money - should've been enough. We got on the train, the lady resumed her begging.
China, bridge, cyclist with a map says his tyre was punctured and need money for food to ride back to his hometown. He was all geared up. I have him fruit which he threw into the river below.
China, friend gave a begged ยฃ5. The bigger picked it up and placed it into his roll of bills and back into his jacket and continued begging.
Italy, lady with a sleeping child. She was crying out for help that her son had no food. Doesn't take food but want money...
I am done with all of them.
Edit: When I say 'it should've been enough' for the Korean womean - that's because my friend gave her the exact amount she needed for her train. Yet she stayed on the platform and continued asking when we got on our train and the train doors closed.
You say the money your friend gave should have been enough, should have been enough for what? How do you know how much money that person needed? Whenever I've gone out I have a specific goal in mind and stop when I reach it. Usually it's $50 which is enough for a hotel room, because honestly I'd rather starve and sleep in a bed after having a shower. So just because some guy gave me a $10 doesn't mean that I'm not going to continue standing with the sign if I have $45 in my pocket and am $5 away from a hotel room. Sure some people out there are full of shit but you don't know without actually talking to them instead of just passing judgement.
'Should've been enough' because that's exactly the amount the Korean lady asked for to get the train back home. My friend is also Korean so no way there was any miscommunication.
I don't have time to pass judgement just providing my observation and sharing my experience.
You say the money your friend gave should have been enough, should have been enough for what? How do you know how much money that person needed? Whenever I've gone out I have a specific goal in mind and stop when I reach it. Usually it's $50 which is enough for a hotel room, because honestly I'd rather starve and sleep in a bed after having a shower. So just because some guy gave me a $10 doesn't mean that I'm not going to continue standing with the sign if I have $45 in my pocket and am $5 away from a hotel room. Sure some people out there are full of shit but you don't know without actually talking to them instead of just passing judgement.
If you see a homeless person approaching you and you do not want to be stopped, point at their feet and say something like "LOOK OUT" or "DONT STEP IN THAT" and really sell it. When they look down you just keep walking and do not stop
"Here you go sir, a nice sandwich :)"
"I said a dollar bitch!" hurls sandwich
lapekes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty much how the situation unfolded.
mmadiaa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:06:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would you also hate all black people if one black guy was mean to you once? Just because ONE "homeless" guy is a dick doesn't mean you should never give money to any of them.
I work with someone who is also a pastor. He is such a kind man. He has literally dozens of stories just like that. He had one just last week. He walked into a fast food place and a homeless looking man was sitting outside. He offered the man a meal if he was hungry but supposedly the dude had just eaten.
Had a homeless guy tell me he didn't like bacon when I tried to give him my ultimate breakfast sandwich I had just bought at the jack in the box he was begging at.
If I'm not in a hurry, I will offer to walk with the person to McDonalds or whatever is nearby and buy them a meal. I've done that about 10 times, and have only been taken up on it 3 times. Had some good conversations on those occasions. I assume the other 7 were just full of shit and just wanted money for whatever reason.
The day I realized I'm never giving money to homeless people is when I offered my untouched subway sandwich to some lady and she said "no I don't want it, give me 5 bucks and I'll go buy one my self"
This is the most often rehashed and recycled story in the world. I know it happens to people, but I think it's just become a popular thing to say because people can repeat it to each other to not feel guilty about ignoring the homeless.
So one guy didn't want your food, what about the next dozen who might've been starving?
Edot: Also personally even if I were homeless right now I'm not a fucking dog. If someone offers me their leftovers I'm not gonna kiss their feet. I don't know if this is what you mean but often I'll see a person offer leftovers, and that's just demeaning and gross.
Edit#2 since this is locked now, just wanted to clarify. I'm not saying fuck you everyone needs to help the homeless, I'm saying it's gross when people pat each other on the back for neglecting them. When it becomes a celebration of ignoring them or telling them off like most of the comments section here.
I usually ignore the homeless, and I do sometimes feel guilty about it. But I largely do it for my own safety, after some bad encounters and how violent then can get sometimes. I'm simply not going to increase my risk of getting hurt (as a tiny woman who is usually approached by these people on my own at night), it just scares me and it is not worth the risk for me.
That and there are literally so many "homeless" people in my city that if I helped everyone I wouldn't be able to afford to eat myself. And how am I supposed to choose who to help?
I'd never give a homless person scraps, but I have bought food for them before (as I never carry cash, so I can't give them cash).
So in summary, do I sometimes feel guilty for ignoring the homeless? Yes. But I am also at a loss as to what the best solution for actually helping them is. That not only actually helps them, but also keeps me safe.
I've told this story before... My wife was in a Whole Foods while me and the kids were waiting in the car. A couple of dudes stroll up to the window, give me a story about how they're hungry and sleeping under an overpass. I told them I didn't have any money, but my wife was in the store and I'd be happy to call her and have her bring them something. One guy says, "What do they have in there?" I said sandwiches, pizza, pretty much anything they would want. Guy says "Do they have Mountain Dew?" I said probably not and he said no thanks they moved on. At least they were polite.
I'll spend some of my money on just about whomever asks, but I don't ever give them my money.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what my dad does, he never gives money but offers to buy them something to eat. He hardly ever gets taken up on the offer of food.
It's happened a few times where a homeless person(s) approached me and gave me a sob story about how they have no money for food, they're from out of town, cars broken down, etc. so I ask what they want? Sandwiches? Chips? Snacks? Water? Or all of it? And then they all reply with the same response, "Well, you think you can go to an ATM and pull out some money?"...
I ended up giving a homeless couple a large bottle of water and whatever change I had, like 5 bucks. For some reason I just can't say no even when I know they just want the money for drugs.
Best way to determine if they are legit or not is to offer food. If they happily take it and thank you, they actually need it.
๐๏ธ SK_RVA ยท 243 points ยท Posted at 16:57:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a guy in Portland politely ask for money, and when I said "no" (because I genuinely didn't have and change/cash), he started screaming at me and my wife like a maniac, saying, "go back to n-ggerland man, go back to n-ggerland!"
Mental illness is a thing. I was jogging at 7am yesterday and got a called a Jew faggot bunny fucker by some old man here in San Francisco. And there's no way he could have known that.
Im being honest here, in no way would I have ever thought to put those words together in that way for an insult. I have to give him a golf clap for the effort and original content
He had me dead to rights for sure. The spryness of the street populace in San Francisco has taken me aback on several occasions. Couple weeks ago a man at Fisherman's Wharf was blaring death metal at incredible volume at 7am as old people and children are walking by. I politely said "Sir, no one here wants to hear that shit" and continued walking. There was the briefest of pauses before he yelled "Yeah? Well no one here wants to hear YOUR FACE!"
Touche, dirtied indigent street man. Touche.
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 18:37:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
adrr ยท 127 points ยท Posted at 17:04:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
don't acknowledge them. Learned my lesson in NY when someone asked me for money and he tried to pick a fight when i said no. Brother-in-law scolded me for replying to them.
Sage advice. The only time I got into a conversation with the homeless was in San Francisco. I was at the pier taking a picture of Alcatraz when a homeless man came up to me and demanded I pay him for the picture because that was his spot on the boardwalk. I explained that I was on a business trip and would gladly pay him, but I would need him to fill out a lot of paperwork so I could write it off on my taxes. He mumbled something and walked away. A couple on the boardwalk came up to me later and said it was pretty funny, but to be careful with the homeless there. A few hours later I saw a fist fight over a cigarette.
had a homeless guy I pass regularly scold me once for "not even looking at him"....motherfucker I know what youre gonna ask for and I dont owe you shit! hate those fucks that think they can get aggressive when you dont give them what they want.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:03:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are the homeless people in San Fran actually dangerous though? Is there anything particularly different with them (homeless in SF), is what I'm trying to ask.
I swear they can tell if you're new to their town/city. I remember moving to Pittsburgh for school years ago, and the first few weeks it was ridiculous. "Hey, I need some cash to see my brother out in Cleveland ..."
Portland local here. Yep, sounds about right. I remember a guy giving his sob story about how he hadn't eaten since the day before... while he had a McDonalds burger in his hand. Truly trying to convince me and a couple friends that he was desperate for food until I pointed out what he was holding, then he got all pissed off, called me a "stupid faggot" and went and sat down to finish his burger.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:02:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"nggerland, The blackest place on Earth"
johnjay ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:13:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rides include being subjected to racial slurs and being dragged from a Ford pickup. I haven't been yet but I heard their rope attraction is pretty fun.
Yeah dude there's some crazies in Portland. Best not to even acknowledge them if you don't want to give them any money. But down there I've seen homeless families with kids, really young kids too. They could use some help for sure.
See? Proof positive he doesn't need you. He has a gaming computer all set up at home. And when he goes there, he starts spamming voice chat.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:57:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well did you go back or what!?
Rynur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my gf and I were in Portland for a week, we were surprised on how many homeless people we walked by and no one talked to us. Here in Colorado, I would say 75% of them ask you for something. Hell, a couple years ago my gf and I were in the middle of eating and a homeless guy came up and asked if he could have it -_- He probably wasn't all there though. After we declined, he sang a love song to the two of us. Well if you call yodeling a type of singing.
Never had a problem with homeless people in Portland. They were some of the most polite I've seen in the states, also the youngest. Surprising since there are so god damn many of them. Was this during one of their beer festivals? -WB
Did you guys actually go? How are the beggars there? -DT
bilzar1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This just happened to me this weekend. Was at the food carts literally paying for my food with a card when he approached and asked for a dollar. Said "Sorry, I don't carry cash." And he starts flipping out "I know your f'ing lying man!" and waving his hands everywhere
Took my girlfriend and my takoyaki and got away from that guy. Came back after eating to properly thank the people who gave me food.
dbx99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is admittedly a little strange since you're ethnically Chinese...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Been here 4 years, the panhandlers haven't changed and operate in different locations. Same spot all the time.
I'm indifferent to panhandlers now.
Gules ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:16:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to carry around a big box of individually wrapped bags of chips in my car and give them out - after giving them to the one guy on Hamilton and Monument like 4 times he said I should stop unless I had cash. I was like... really dude.
Genuinely interesting read. Goes to show that wherever there's a decent sum of money to be made, people will start to organise and run it like a business.
Oh man, it's not nearly as bad here in the US, but Europe has some despicable rackets that prey on people's charity. Women forced to panhandle in the street with a "loaner baby" that is often drugged to keep him quiet/sleeping. Kids forced to beg all day and get beat for not bringing in enough. Really nasty stuff.
Very likely, but I can't really remember as it's been a while since I watched the docs. Definitely East European something or other though. Whatever it was I'm sure the same is present in Roma culture.
The really fucked up ones give you their baby to hold and then steal all your shit while you're holding their baby. Then you're stuck with a random kid and they've run off somewhere. It's not like you're gonna drop a baby.
To be fair I saw a lot of panhandlers and shady criminals in Europe, but never actually saw the "hold my baby" scam firsthand. Just heard about it.
Maybe the overall amount of beggars, but I've never seen child "gangs" in the streets here asking for money. I can't speak for the whole of Europe as my travels are limited as well, but in the few places I've been (mostly touristy) they were thick.
Google "drugged baby begging" and you'll probably find some good hits.
It really sucks because in Carytown there is a shelter with real homeless people, several with mental disabilities, that need help. And here are these people, taking away help from those who really need it. It's disgusting.
I'm also sick of the story about how "I had to bury my moms today and we are only in town for the weekend and my daughter is back at a motel alone in a shitty part of town and we need exactly $8.39 so she can get her food."
This same story is used weekly on me. More people taking money from those who need it. I've even had the same dude in the same week, a few days apart, ask me. Fuck your scam.
I was stuck at the LA International Airport for 12 hours once. Went to the food court and was immediately approached by a pan handler. I declined. Because I was there so long, he approached me two more times so on the third time I said, "I'm getting some food. Would you like some food or a drink?" He accepted a drink and we sat and talked. After a couple of minutes, he got squirmy then said, "Look man. This is nice and all but I'm losing money. I gotta get back to work." And off he went. When I started to get tired, I asked him where I could get some rest and he took me behind a construction area where there were rows of seats with a dozen or so sleeping pan handlers, passengers, and security guards. He showed me how to put my luggage between me and a window and sleep without fear of losing anything.
TL;DR: Many (If not all) of the panhandlers you see in the usual spots are a scam. Read it all if you want more evidence.
That's quite the assertion to make based on one anecdote. I worked with the homeless in Portland, OR, and knew or at least recognized many of the homeless people around the city. At least in Portland, the panhandlers aren't going back to apartments and houses. They are homeless.
Either way, though, the best thing to do is to give directly to non-profits that help the homeless. Whether they are real panhandlers or not, giving to a reputable organization addresses both issues.
Portland has an issue with runnaways from UT that become homeless in OR correct?
That is an issue and there are legit homeless panhandlers however the fake ones or union ones as we call them here in South FL are scam artist and are very much real and an issue.
Portland has an issue with runnaways from UT that become homeless in OR correct?
I don't know if there was a lot specifically from Utah. I worked with the adult homeless population, though, so I wouldn't know particular youth trends well. Portland does attract a lot of homeless though, because we have mild weather and some of the best programs in the country.
That is an issue and there are legit homeless panhandlers however the fake ones or union ones as we call them here in South FL are scam artist and are very much real and an issue.
Yeah, I know it's an issue, I just took exception to OPs statement that it was "many (if not all)." From my experience, that's inaccurate. And I wouldn't want people to treat those actually in need like they are scummy scam artists.
I agree for the most part however, different areas have different issues. Some areas it is an issue of fake panhandlers others they are legit homeless. In your area might be mostly legit homeless panhandlers, in my area of South FL? They are mostly union.
And the UT thing came from my research of Portland as a possible "get the fuck outta Florida" escape city, seems to be a bunch of kids running away from the Mormon Church
At least in Portland, the panhandlers aren't going back to apartments and houses. They are homeless.
Don't live in Portland but worked a couple construction projects downtown. There is a massive contingent of people, most of whom I'd refer to as "kids", that are willingly homeless. Like... a shocking amount. Been all over the Country and never seen anything like it.
Portland was also the first City I'd been to where instead of asking for a cigarette or change... or even a dollar... the street urchins would walk up and say, "Hey man, can I have five bucks?" Really? Five bucks?
Also had my car broken into 3 times in the span of 6 months while I worked there.
I'm sure there is a very real problem with true homelessness... mental illness etc... but whatever y'all are doing is also attracting lots of lazy assholes.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:17:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Downtown Austin used to be like that with the homeless kids back in the late 90s, especially during the summers.
After decades of living in the city that's the FIRST time you walked (or I guess biked around it?) I thought it was kinda funny that you were advocating walking around as though it was something nobody did..(or I guess biking around). Perhaps the city is spread out?
Thankyou for not shittymorph-ing the end of your interesting story. Sad state of affairs when I start gritting my teeth towards the end of a post, expecting an Undertaker-themed tangent.
I work in a similar size city in the midwest, and a lot of the panhandlers here are part of some sort of loosely-organized syndicate just like you describe.
I don't know about other places, but in Buenos Aires, Argentina, at night you would see a lot of trans people standing in the corners, offering their services. I used to think, damn there must be a lot of closet gays in this city. Then I learned that many of them sell cocaine, and when you see then leaning to a car window, they are not discussing how much for a blow job. They are selling dope
Yeah there was another ring based in the alley behind the Chanello's at Broad and Boulevard. The leader of that one got the shit kicked out of him and was found in that alley. He survived but he was seriously fucked up. Still a lot of panhandlers at that intersection though so I'm sure someone else took over.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:27:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know that the police couldn't do much about it, but a local news station could do something maybe.
I agree this is a practice which should be exposed but let's be honest, if people want to leave their day job, park their car, and beg on the corner for cash because other people will just give it to them, they can. There is no laws against lying. Her pretenses may be false, and she is likely scum , but the real dummies in these situations are the people who give her money. Further, the guy was an asshole. He could have exposed her fraudulent behavior and went about his day without looking like a douche.
bpwnz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
offtopic, but as a cyclist I found Richmond to be an amazing town to ride in. Will have to come back soon, hope you're still exploring on 2 wheels.
In areas that don't get particularly cold, you get a lot of crust punks. But they usually have longer spiels from what I know. They're more of the "I was travelling across the country because my wife is giving birth in a few days but my car broke down. Can I get like $20 so I can buy parts? If you give me your address I'll mail you the money back once I'm home" stories. I guess they feel like begging for just change isn't rewarding enough.
Very little of this reads "scam," to me. It shows organization, but that's not deceptive.
I noticed this on a much smaller scale outside my office building. There were two dudes who "worked" the same median. One would stand out there and collect money while the other guy sat on a shaded park bench.
After a while they'd switch it up. I suspect the split the money that came in.
Again -- not a scam, just organization. It's hot as heck on that median and you're not gonna stand on it for 12 hours.
While they did often work towards specific cars I figured that was because there are certain people who give on a frequent basis, and the panhandlers come to recognize their car.
While cities are sort of big chaotic places, you get a fair amount of routine built in there (same people same place same time every day).
I rarely notice it, but it's there for people who are looking.
Nothing wrong with a guy living out of his van to coordinate to help out his homeless community. I mean not every person is going to be your image of death's door needs to eat right now every day. Good on them for entrepreneur-ing their situation into something that works, and pulls enough in to get them their calories. You seem like you have a concept of what the rules are governing being homeless.
They are a scam because you know if they're poor just by looking at them? Uhhh what? Poor people can't drive or borrow vehicles or accept cars as gifts?
Where is the empathy? What right does anyone have to say they know if someone is poor or not by how they look?
Edit: i love the downvotes here. Proves me right when i get downvotes and no debate. People are ashamed that they think they know who is poor and who is not based on the car they drive or the clothes they wear.
I worked at Dollar general and had a hippie lady and her family come in all the time. Coworker saw her begging outside Walmart for food, stopped an offered a box or Ritz crackers, lady refused and said they only wanted organic items or cash. Fuck those people.
They owned a hippie shop right around the corner from my work. The next day her husband or baby daddy whoever he was came in and bought some stuff and whips out his wallet that is filled like a fucking bank deposit bag with cash. Couldn't even fold it in half.
Fiat-chrysler. It's like begging for shoddy electrical and transmission systems. Or hell, Jeep Renegade. 500 with a Jeep badge.... Asking for bad juju.
GraharG ยท 366 points ยท Posted at 16:49:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People in this thread are getting to the right conclusion with the most retarded logic.
If she were really homeless, do you think she'd give a shit what her shirt says? A homeless person would probably grab whatever they could from Salvation Army or whatever.
People in this thread are getting to the right conclusion with the most retarded logic.
How do we know it is "the right conclusion?" Is there more to this story that I have no seen? Because there is absolutely nothing conclusive in that video. The car could have been bought before she fell on hard times, or it could be a loan from a friend.
Yep I'm on the side of this. A car means fuck all.
Infact, I'm reminded of a very recent thing that happened in my country - where a guy was hounded by the daily mail (normal people being hound down and their lives ruined by the daily mail? Whod have thought it...) For being "homeless with a car".
The guy used the car to sleep. He had a serious heroin addiction. If he didn't sleep in his car he could sometimes stay at a B&B for a night (the DM said this was "friends houses").
The car was given to him as part of an uncles will. He hadn't sold it because he was scared he'd spend the money on drugs, and it was also his only proper possession. And he could sleep in it.
He got so many threats, so much harrassment, he had to give his dog away (his only friend left).
Oh and don't worry - the local people also destroyed his car.
So he doesn't have that anymore.
Honestly, I fucking hate this shit. People go round with a massive boner for "catching" this stuff out, when they know 5% of the situation at most, and they've just ruined someone elses life so they can feel morally superior over someone.
Edit: fixed some words and just wanted to add how gross it is that I had to scroll down this far to find anyone questioning this.
Even if she is faking, my thoughts are that it doesn't matter. It doesn't stop me giving my change. And I don't care if they spend it on drink or drugs - everyone has their problems. I drink. I do drugs - who the fuck am I to judge someone else on harder times?
We are all two unlucky situations away from being homeless. All of us are. And that's why, even if people are faking, that is not the issue.
If you want to reduce "fake panhandlers" reduce panhandling in general. Make a proper support system for these people. Going around "shaming" people only makes things far worse for the actual homeless people (if you believe there are people faking this, which really blows my mind anyway)
We are all only two unlucky situations from being in the same position. So make the position a less desperate one.
The conclusion in this case had to do with whether or not she's disabled. She's clearly not disabled, not physically anyway.
But your other point is spot on. Literally no proof here as to whether or not she's really homeless. She dodgy, but most people are when they have a camera in their face.
Do you not consider psychological disability a possibility? I've seen so many comments ITT about how childlike and dim she seems yet no one wants to believe she might actually be disabled. I'm not saying she is or isn't, the video doesn't provide enough context. But considering what she's doing with her life it's definitely worth considering and would explain a lot.
As you said, most anyone, when surprised by two camera guys threatening you, would appear "dodgy."
And it could have been loaned to her by a friend. Or maybe she is crashing a friend's couch. What you are doing is not looking at the facts and saying "What can we really tell?" It seems to me you are looking at the facts and saying "how can I view the facts to support my position?"
I'm just throwing this out there. I am disabled. I didn't need a lawyer and years of court to get it. I've got some bad mental problems and I promise no one wants me working for anyone. If you see me outside, I am having a good day/moment. You aren't seeing the bad shit that goes on behind closed doors.
Are we really citing t-shirts as proof of a person not having a disability?
Look, I don't know this woman's story. But neither do you. She could be running some scam, or maybe she bought a car and fell on hard times. Or maybe she fell on hard times and a friend loans her a car so she can drive out here and beg. If she does actually have some issues, it's no surprise to me that she isn't sharing it with some guys who just come up and start filming it, threatening to share it all over social media and the news?
This is basically just a witch hunt. Why not reserve judgment until you know all the facts, rather than trying to force the facts to fit your prejudice. I mean, seriously, you are citing what her shirt says to prove she doesn't have a disability. I can't believe this is getting upvotes.
Not to give her argument any credit, but many people do have disabilities that are not easily seen. And they have no obligation to tell you what it is. However, this woman is a piece of shit and probably doesn't have one at all.
Luck_E ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:59:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was asking for money because she was homeless. So, when they called her out on that, she claimed it was actually because she had a disability, but her sign said she needed money because she was homeless. Couldn't name her disability and didn't have a good reply when the sign was pointed out. Pretty clear she is a liar.
I didn't see anything that proved to me that she was saying she was homeless. If there is a link to what her sign said, I would like to see it. I did a quick google search and turned up nothing but this video.
Couldn't name her disability
Or she didn't want to name her disability. I probably wouldn't share my medical history, especially if I found it somewhat embarrassing, to some people promising to share the video of me all over social media and the news.
Speaking as someone who probably should be on disability because my psychological problems leave me bouncing job to job and often homeless, just because I may look healthy and able bodied or occasionally happy doesn't mean a thing.
This is very true, but in the video, she states that her disability is she has hip problems. Yes not a visible disability in every case, I know this well because I have hip problems too and you wouldn't know it unless you looked really carefully and knew you were looking for a hip problem. But at the same time, you have to ask what kind of hip problems could someone have that are so bad they can't work... but they are fine walking around and even jogging at one point to beg for money for hours?
Edit: Though I do definitely agree with what others have said about her owning a Fiat not proving she isn't homeless. It is very possible she got it when things were better then she lost her job, then her home, and now the car is all she really has left and is essentially her home now and has to use some of the money she gets to pay for it if it's not paid off. Which, is a shitty situation to be in of course. Granted at that point you'd be better off selling the car and using what you get for it to get a place, then you can use the money you get panhandling to pay for your new place while looking for a job. If where you live has public transport or is easy enough to still get around on like a bike or if walking wouldn't be a massive stretch.
It could still be a physical one. Physical disabilities are often "unseen" and have nothing to do with how fit you are, eg epilepsy, diabetes, severe IBS (irritable bowel syndrome), etc. They're called hidden disabilities and there are many of them. It's a shame most people forget about them.
j4_jjjj ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Besides what everyone else said, she could have been wearing clothes that were donated. I wear some tshirts for a gym I've never been to because my grandma passed away and I turned her old gym shirts into pajamas.
I don't think she's legitimately homeless but I'm just saying this on the off chance you come across someone who is actually homeless or disabled but is wearing a tshirt that indicates otherwise.
I feel like the more aggressive panhandlers are at begging for money, the more likely they are a "fake." Most of the panhandlers in my area that legitimately could use some help are a bit more humble or "ashamed" of having to ask, and they will generally leave when they have what they need.
Generally I agree. I think there are two exceptions I can think of. One is mental illness. The other is someone who is legitimately homeless being taught by someone who is a professional panhandler how to increase the odds of landing the donation.
The aggressiveness is a learned behavior, though there's an art to it. It increases the odds of success overall.
It's kind of like dealing with a telemarketer. They have carefully picked every action to make sure you stay on the line until you donate, and there are different approaches they will take depending on the mark. There are different experience/skill levels, but it's definitely good business.
In my old neighborhood, you'd see this one a lot. Pimp/trick pairs where the pimp hangs back and lets the frail-looking woman walk up and ask, but stays just close enough to jump in and intimidate and guilt trip people who say no.
At a Halloween festival, I saw two guys do it where one is the smiley, chummy guy who asks for money, and the other is the mean, scary guy who yells at you if you say no.
In my opinion, the best ones to give money to are the showmen. Magicians, musicians, statues, jugglers, dancers, etc. These guys are mostly doing honest work, though beware pickpockets and purse snatchers in this situation.
I live downtown. I see a lot of homeless people and a lot of beggars. If they say they want change for food, offer to buy them food instead. The truly homeless will accept, but usually they say no, and will avoid you after that.
There is a homeless guy near where I live who I see regularly when I get my weekend morning bagels. I've given him fresh bagels and hot coffee numerous times and we address each other by name when our paths cross. He's always very grateful. At one point I asked if he wanted to grab some Jake's Wayback (burger place in CT) with me and he politely declined. He seemed like he really wanted to go, but he explained that it's embarrassing enough to be homeless in the first place, but to go sit down in a restaurant with someone else who was obviously paying for his meal wasn't something he was comfortable doing. He didn't want to be stared at. Long story short, I bought double the food I usually would and took it to go. I met back up with him and you'd think the guy breathed beef.
Not sure why I bothered telling this story.. .it's a slow Monday I guess.
Excellent point! I didn't make that connection, but you're right. Her whole personality seems to be crafted around getting other people to handle her problems. She's like a middle manager of panhandling.
It looked like they had seen her before and were prepared. They also knew they could film all they want so long as they didn't touch her. Great job gentleman.
evilili ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I AM the bark!" would have been nice.
podocks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:22:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she were a serious bitch, she'd be the one doing the barking, amirite?
[deleted] ยท 265 points ยท Posted at 17:05:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. I cannot believe how many people are defending this POS. If she lived in her car, or really wasn't scamming anyone she would explain her situation to the guy. Instead, she just threatens him because she's been caught.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 18:33:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i know and to go the "mental health issues" route is just making people with real mental issues seem rude or POS.
and i am a counselor with my NCE and LCPC, this is not a person with "mental health issues"
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:37:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't spent enough time with this person to know if she has neurological issues. But she is obtaining others' property (money) by false pretenses.
Not defending her, but they were being pretty confrontational. She should've just bolted and left in her car rather than do what she did or try to explain herself.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 18:30:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, she really does owe no one any explanation. The videographers are acting aggressively, regardless of the situation. If I were in her situation I'd also feel threatened and would never try justifying myself to people like them.
This video should be a prime example of how to not confront people...
The sickest thing I see in New Orleans is the exploitation of kids for pan handling. They do it under the guise of they're raising money for a sports team. They'll have half a dozen kids working both sides of a busy intersection wearing the most generic colored athletic wear that just says "cheer" or something. New day, new color jersey.
I'd love for someone to expose this for what it is.
Dat_J3w ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 17:55:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, I seen this woman around RVA all the time, everyone knows she's a sham. When I saw this video I thought, man what if it's the girl from parham and patterson and hot dog it is. Reddit is a marvelous place.
Fuddit ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 18:09:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The way she's lying straight up, playing the victim game, pretending she don't know what they're talking about. Classic scumbag of humane society, why do I have to live and breath the same air as these degenerates. I hate humans.
I think if you are literally buying gas for them (they have a car at the pump and all you do is swipe) that's debateable over whether it's being scammed or helping, but this is definitely a common tactic and no one should be handing over cash to "stranded" travelers.
Another common one is "I/my mother/my son just got out of the hospital."
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:59:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A few months ago at the gas station, someone asked me for money, for gas. I said sure, but I am not giving you money, Ill pay for the gas. I asked the lady to put money on the pump he was at. She said, I know you want to help, but as soon as you leave, he will come back in here and demand a refund (I was giving her cash). She said it happens all the time. So I walk out and tell him and he gets pissed off and drives away, in his car....that was out of gas. LOL
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:25:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Put the gas in first. Can't get a refund then no matter how much they bitch.
I buy them gas... I don't give them cash. If they're taking the few gallons I squirted into their gas can to sell for drugs or whatever... more power to them.
Exactly, we don't have many homeless in my country (the netherlands). But once I encounter one I always offer food. Not one cent will go to that guy, always a sandwich or something like that.
8/10 times they decline and are subtile about wanting money.
No thank you sir.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:26:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you want to help keep working hard at your job where you pay taxes that pay for the services that actually help these people. Many of whom conform to all the worst stereotypes about them.
Well... if you want to help... donate to a reputable, local charity... or volunteer time if you can't afford it. Being alive for a long time there's a rule that I've learned... Government sucks ass at doing stuff.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really any more or less than private companies or charities, half of which are scams.
Lots of them are scams... which is why you need to check out any place you're giving your hard earned money.
That said... simply by the nature of the size and scope of the programs involved, government is horrifically inefficient... even with the best intentions. Add in the unnecessary bureaucracy, bloat and potential corruption and it gets worse.
Here's a great recent example about the ridiculous problems with the Children's Trust Fund in LA.
I do a few different biker Toy Runs in my area... I can be pretty damn sure that the toys don't end up in a fucking warehouse.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, I didn't know that anyone still talks like this. Of course we don't have nearly enough taxpayer-funded services in this country, just paying taxes isn't doing nearly enough.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:15:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How much is "enough" exactly? There is food housing and clothing for anyone who bothers to try and generally follows a few simple rules (don't be high, don't be violent).
Lol you reminded me. the other day at a gas station see a guy standing out front and asks me for money says his car broke down. I was just like "ha yeah ive heard that one before". cause for some reason everyone down here says that. but i ended up giving him 2 dollars anyway. we end up talking more and i find out he is a pan handler and wants me to drive him to a good spot. said he makes good money there too. had to pass on that one
I used to be a bank teller by a popular beach in Southern California. There was a guy with $3000 in his account, lived in section 8 housing (low income housing) for about $300 a month 2 blocks from the beach. Everyday, I saw him hang out by the touristy shops with a "I <3 Jesus" hat begging for money. Then, he would hang out with his friends rest of the afternoon until just before the bank closed, he would come deposit what was left or withdraw some more for the night. I hated this guy, he ate better than me, lived at a better place, had better clothes, and worked less. Fuck able bodied and mentally able beggars.
BGYeti ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 17:27:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And this is why you donate to charities that help the homeless instead of giving money to people on that side of the road, not to mention your money will go further helping more people when given to a charity.
But always donate directly. Skip the callers and the cash register collections. I've been told the agencies that collect for charities take a substantial cut.
Well they pointed out that her sign specifically said she was homeless so that can't even save her.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:47:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would be her only saving, mitigating grace, I guess. If she was truly mentally unbalanced, I would find this type of video sad and cringe-worthy from the reverse viewpoint.
Zanpie ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:32:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do find it sad and cringe worthy from the other perspective.
Perhaps it's just because I've been down and out...
Those guys calling her out just seem a bit shrill with their vindication. I don't know her story and neither do they. I simply don't think it's worth following her, filming her and shouting the same phrases over and over...
She may very well be neurodiverse, this sort of manipulative behavior is certainly an indicator. If that is the case I honestly hope this woman gets some help because abuse and other things can trigger behavior like this and need to be addressed at some point.
Not even to shame people with anxiety, but there are a shit load of people who refuse to handle stress and opt to claim they are mentally unfit to be a productive member of the market.
An not working due to anxiety, yet can approach random strangers in their car and ask for money. Thought of even asking family members for money gives me anxiety.
yeah but unless you have a way to get into someone's head, it is not easy to spot the difference.
I went through almost 5 years of anxiety, almost costing me my engineering degree and it put me through almost two years without a job. Now, even after one year being employed without any real anxiety attack, i still feel very hesitant to doubt anyone claiming he has anxiety, even if it was the case of that woman in the video. That shit is the worst.
Really? You're going to say that people are just too sensitive? That's beyond ableist, honestly.
Speaking as someone with multiple anxiety disorders and who is on the autism spectrum who can barely manage work, but has to- And I'll explain why in a moment... Just no. You have no idea what anxiety is like, the same goes for depression. You can't just take it away, force it to not be a thing. Force yourself to not feel it. It's not humanely possible. People out there on disability for anxiety and like neurodiversity need that. And I will qualify that as follows.
I was raised by a baptist family, the worst kind. At that I was home schooled 1st - 12th grade. Never went to a doctor, never got exposure. I got out of there as soon as I could. It was tough, I worked- But I didn't keep work long. I had a full on panic attack that required me to arrive 2 hours before my shift started to be in the right place to go to work on time, and a full on panic attack as soon as I got out of work. Anyway, it wasn't until into my mid 20's when I had a serious suicide attempt that I got actual mental health care and diagnosed as on the Autism Spectrum, as well as diagnosed with PTSD, Social Anxiety Disorder, and Derealization-Depersonalization disorder. Just one of these things should qualify me for disability, so I don't have to face tremendous stress every day, yet I don't qualify. Why not? I have a solid work history. Literally the case against me is "You worked in the past, why can't you work now?"
It's really bloody important to understand there are more people out there facing serious problems and that society does in fact discriminate against specifically those problems. For instance I've been fired for not integrating with a team well- Well guess why? I have autism. I didn't know that at the time, but it's just the simple truth.
On top of all of this is the fact that sure, there may be people able to fake disability to some degree, but it's rather hard to do so because you have to get doctors you don't hire to investigate and test yourself. You have to qualify in a hundred ways people don't know. The only problem with neurodiversity and disability is the fact not enough qualify for it, nor is there enough support for it.
In regards to the lady in the video, regardless of neurodiversity or not- Manipulation isn't okay and she should be dealt with. Likely at least have some out patient mental health care mandated.
rjcarr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering she looked pretty fit and her shirt talked about "training", I'd guess you'd have to be correct, or someone would have another good fraud case against her.
Wow... this woman is vile. This is no prediction, it's a wish.
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:48:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Two stories, each with their own lesson. If you read the first story, please be sure to read the second story:
In the downtown area of the city in which I live there is a guy that I see regularly asking for money and he always has a sob story and often claims he's a vet. He asked me for money for food once and we just happened to be outside of a restaurant, so I tell him that he can come into the restaurant with me and that I'd buy him a meal. He said no and that he wasn't allowed in the restaurant. I told him that I'd buy him something from the Jimmy Johns next door and he said no and that he just wanted something from McDonalds (which was about a mile away). I was on my bike, so I told him I would ride down to McDonalds and pick him something up and bring it back to him. He said, "Really, I'm just looking for some money." and I told him that I couldn't do that and then we went our separate ways.
(((KEEP READING)))
Story 2.
My apartment overlooks a bus station. For the past three nights a woman of around 55 years old has been sleeping there. She's obviously homeless, has the accompanying two bags of all of her worldly possessions, etc. I decided to make sure she got some food Friday night and I brought over a PBJ sandwich, some cookies, peanuts and banana. She was nervous around me, but said thanks. The next day I brought her some more food and a large bottle of water. Saturday night was pretty cold where I live and when I looked out my kitchen window I saw that all she had was a coat to keep her warm. Well, I had a blanket that my employer gave me for Christmas last year and I almost never use it, so I took it out to the woman and gave it to her. Sunday, I took her some food and talked to her for a little bit and she asks me, "Why are you being nice to me," with genuine surprise that anyone would be helping her. That fucking ripped my guts out. What kind of a world do we live in where someone is surprised that another human being would make sure they got some food for the day? I have plenty. I can spare a sandwich and piece of fruit or even a blanket for another person from time to time.
Don't let the scammers keep you from being generous to those in need. Empathy is a virtue. Be smart with how you help, but please help.
xts2500 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:40:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Omaha and we've had a major increase in panhandlers over the last couple of years. People don't even try to hide that they don't need the money, half the time they're dressed better than I am and they have their North Face back packs with them. Many of them have gotten smart though, instead of panhandling in the city they go to the intersections near interstate exits so they can work the people who are traveling the interstate and aren't familiar with them. If they worked the same intersections in the city then people would wise up quickly and they would stop making money.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:17:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stop involving random people in your shit. McDonalds workers aren't negotiators and don't want to deal with your shit. If you don't want to talk to someone, just stop talking to them and walk away.
My next door neighbors do this, They haven't been doing it as regularly so I haven't been able to figure out their schedule yet. I live in Toronto and a few years ago I went to the local exhibition we have here the CNE, it's like a big fair with rides and games and shows and stuff. Basically the neighboring area gets crowded with beggers, there are some legit buskers performing and stuff but it's mostly homeless people just sitting there on a blanket with hat. Saw my neighbor sitting there once begging for change. He's kind of fucked in the head though and is definitely disabled but the rest of his family joins in the fun. His mother also begs in the city and I believe there is another brother but I'm not sure he lives with them anymore. I should also mention that my neighborhood isn't cheap, were talking million dollar homes.
Same thing happens here on the NYC subway. I saw one guy begging for money one day with dirty/old clothes. The next day saw him at my stop, all dressed up and wearing his Jordan's counting a wad of cash he pulled out from his pocket.
Was in a pizza place around the corner from my apartment in Midtown, and a homeless looking guy comes in, and hands me a price of paper claiming he is deaf, and in need of help. I immediately knew he was full of shit, seeing as how after he handed me the note he waved his arms and made sounds indicating more that he was mentally handicapped over deaf. Before I could even refuse though, the owner of the pizza shop comes out from behind the counter and says "dont give this piece of shit anything, he's not even really deaf." As soon as he said that, the guy booked it out of the pizza place.
I'm not sure that laziness is considered a disability. This is the reason you don't give money to these people on the side of the road. There are avenues for you to help the ACTUAL homless. This only makes the problem worse when people can make more money from sincere, honest, good hearted people, than from being a productive contributing member of society.
[deleted] ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 17:16:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course she's from fucking Maryland...
tetshi ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 17:18:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey hey! I'm from Maryland.... andddd I can confirm this all checks out. Carry on.
I'm also from Maryland. I am outraged that both of you failed to mention that this shit happens daily.
dbx99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am not from Maryland although I've visited a few times by way of Washington DC, and I got no strong impression about Maryland other than it seemed like a hot and humid shithole in the summer.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:45:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, an intersection close to where I work rotates 3-4 people every day. Whoever gets there first gets the money I guess. I see different people all the time, many of them wearing clean clothes. Even saw one girl with a purse on her shoulder.
This is a growing issue in the West End of Richmond. So much so that police have put up signs at the intersections with a phone number for help for anyone begging for money, also demanding them to not stand in the median. They do so anyway, and people still hand them money while they're literally standing under the signs.
In one area of the west end (corner of Broad and Pump), there's a gentleman I saw there every day with a small puppy that was kept in a backpack while he panhandled. Even on days where it was nearing 100 degrees he was out there, with this poor dog(the dog had thick black hair at that). That's kind of where I draw the line - obviously using a puppy to garner sympathy.
I was standing behind the guy in the 7-11 on the corner one night when that very guy was ahead of me in line with the dog's head sticking out of his back up. I reached up to pet him and he bit me actually. Didn't break any skin and wasn't major but broke my heart because I know as soon as the dog's services are no longer needed for the panhandler, he'll probably just be left to run free and end up sheltered or in the pound.
People like this ruin it for legit homeless in my mind. I just assume they are all faking it. After seeing one dude power slam the burger i gave him after i drove off, it's been a long line of i don't care anymore.
its like people will ask me for bus money here all the time. If you really are stuck somewhere i have really no problem giving you a few euros to get home. Really this is a fucked situation and i would help you. But i hear the same stories everytime they need to catch a bus blaablaa. I even give money on a regular basis if i think this person is really in need for some food or stuff but the fact that you lied to me makes me angry and you wont get anything. And it makes me angry that if i ever happen to lose my wallet in a town that is not mine i feel like nobody would be believe me if i would ask for a bus ticket or smth. They really ruin it for people that are legit in problematic situations.
We saw the same guy who'd "run out of gas" as he was going to a town a half hour north for a couple of weeks outside my work. The first day, my coworker gave him money. We'd still walk by him selling the same story. He even made the mistake of trying to ask the same coworker a few days later.
There's always some emergency factor with this one like, "I've got my daughter with me," or, "I need to take my mom to the hospital," or whatever else makes it seem like this needs to happen right now and your help is essential.
I used to work delivering pizzas. Had a guy in a minivan roll up behind the restaurant asking for gas money. His wife was in the passenger seat. He was saying they needed to be somewhere like 100 miles away for something(l don't remember what). I told him no because I've been scammed before with similar stories. Then he says his wife has been crying all night and they don't know what they were going to do. I said I don't know either but I'm sure you can call someone to help you I even offered to let him use my phone. He said he couldn't call anyone. Then he started talking about how they were christians and blah blah blah. So I firmly but nicely said, no I'm not going to give you money. I don't know you. Then I told him there were 3 churches nearby and that I'm sure they'd be more than willing to help a fellow Christian out. He then got all pissy with me and tore out of the parking lot.
I felt bad for awhile afterward but the more I thought about it the more angry I was at the guy. Like I'm some how responsible for him and his wife? I'm not the one who left on a long trip without enough gas money. I gave him plenty of legitimate options to help him out. But I'm the bad guy? Fuck him and his wife.
I'm curious...when you give money to a "real homeless person" do you think that money you gave them is going towards saving up to buy a house? Or to rent an apartment? I guess if you actually think that, I can understand your anger towards her.
Reality is, 90% of those "real homeless" people that you give money to are not using it for anything other than a quick "fix". Whether that is a bite to eat, drugs, alcohol, etc.
Shes no worse than every begger in my opinion. Quite frankly, I'd rather give my money to her than a "real homeless person" who sits in the same subway every single day begging for money to fund their drinking habit.
There was a woman once in Lake Worth Florida that had a sign telling a story how her husband and children were killed when their house burned down and now they have nothing.
The following week I saw her out there with a man where both had signs saying their CHILDREN burned alive in their house fire.
If I encounter a regular corner-dweller, who begs professionally, I always offer to buy a cigarette. It's a perfect arrangement: they get money, I get the satisfaction of helping them, plus cancer.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:36:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this shit gets me mad because I know a lady who lives in a house, 3/2 with her 2 children, and every day she is out on the corner 3 blocks away begging up money. The city is big enough that you'd never know she is a home owner probably worth at least $400,000. Her kids are druggie con artist as well but they travel further into the city to scam people.
She probably collects anywhere between $30-50/hr at a busy intersection. She is there regularly so people assume she is "homeless" in the area, people sometimes get out and stand next to her with their own signs that say "NOT HOMELESS" and drive her away but eventually she comes back because of the high traffic at the corner.
It's a kick in the face to the real homeless in the area.
I think the most important take-away is that if you feel compassion for people that don't have anything, your donation is better utilized by giving directly to local organizations that help the homeless directly, like a shelter. That completely eliminates having to wonder whether an individual, who could be a scammer is just taking free money. It reasonably ensures your money is used for actually helping people that need it. Scammers don't use shelters.
OMG, I've seen something like this. I completely froze not out of surprise but more confusion as to why you would.
I parked up in the car park by the Oracle car park in Reading a while back. I walked through the alley to the main town and spotted a homeless person mostly covered by a throw. I asked him if he wanted a sub, (I know, I'm the douche who doesn't give money but I was going to get food anyway) so I got him a subway that's over the bridge. I came back and gave him his sub etc and went on with my day.
5 hours later...
Finished hanging with my friends and snooping the Magic cards at the Eclectic Games store. I was walking back when I notice this guy wearing fairly nice clothes holding a cover of sorta getting into Jaguar F type. I carried on walking closer as it was in open sided car park where I parked and I recognised IT WAS THE FUCKING HOMELESS GUY!!! sucks cause now I feel hesitant to give stuff, I thought I was doing something nice. I was feeding some guy who clearly has money.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:39:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I need someone but not a cop. Let me just act like a woman being followed by men and not a scam artist and hopefully someone can call the cops on these guys for harassing a woman."
It's entertaining and informative! It may have also even inspired me to go out and play detective on my day off. Better than sitting at home on Reddit all day. I'll just sit in the car on Reddit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically i don't think it would count as a threat since she isn't saying that she will be the cause of any harm that could come to them. The fact that she said that makes me think she really does have a mental disability.
1) It's a woman. The vast majority of actual homeless people are men.
2) She's not wearing or carrying all her clothes and her clothes look like they've been washed fairly recently.
3) She appears to have energy. Real homeless people do not jog. When you don't necessarily get to eat every day you don't waste energy jogging.
4) She looks like she has showered at least once in the last 2 weeks or so. Spending most of your time in the elements makes you rather dirty, and not owning a shower makes it a bit harder to shower regularly.
5) She has nice white shoes. Homeless people's shoes are generally beat to hell.
6) She's wearing fucking yoga pants. Real homeless people do not wear yoga pants. Seriously people. How the fuck is she fooling anyone?
[deleted] ยท -56 points ยท Posted at 18:33:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who cares? Just don't give her money if you don't think it's a good use of your money... You don't have to chase her around with a camera and exploit her on the internet
milecai ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:39:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
expose*
[deleted] ยท -51 points ยท Posted at 18:40:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no, she's not as poor as I think she should be!
Do you know how many people make money dishonestly? Why are you blaming a woman begging on the street for anything when you have no clue what her story is besides the fact that her car is nicer than yours? Do you really think she would be panhandling in the road if she had a reasonable option otherwise? Is it that her method of making money isn't as hard as you think yours is, or that she makes more than you for 'less work'? Recognize jealousy when you see it, in others and yourself. Use your head.
I'm from Richmond VA and unfortunately this thing happens all the time. On multiple occasions I've seen people park their cars, walk down the street and beg for change. It's a horrible practice that needs to be stopped.
I think the issue is giving in to pan handlers. Instead you should donate your money or time to local establishments that help the homeless. I've been guilty of giving in to pan handlers and still do occasionally. So maybe I should listen to my own advice before preaching.
One time I gave a homeless dude an apple and he threw it on the ground yelling I don't want your f'in apple!
GozoGun ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:30:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The woman at the drive through's perplexed expression throughout the entire ordeal was fantastic.
Years ago, my uncle would see the same guy standing at the freeway off-ramp begging for money as he'd drive home from work everyday. He said that something just felt "off" with this guy and that he didn't believe he was actually homeless. One evening on his commute home, he gets off at his exit and sure enough, the guys is there, begging as always. So my uncle decides to finally give into his itch and play detective. He pulls into a Walgreens parking lot adjacent to the off-ramp and watches the homeless guy for another couple hours or so until the guy decides to leave. Sure enough, my uncle watches this dude walk straight over to the same walgreens parking lot and pull out car keys to some SUV. After following this guy for 5 minutes, it turns out, this "homeless" guy lived two streets behind my uncle's house. As the SUV approached a house, it pulled into the driveway and the guy just walked right in.
I remember my uncle saying how shocked he really was, and just sat there dumbfounded. I don't think he wanted his suspicions to be true, but seeing it unfold before his eyes was pretty unbelievable. To this day, my uncle refuses to give money to any homeless person on the street, he'll give food if he has it, but money is a no-no for him.
Pretty crazy, but I'm sure this is happening on a daily basis throughout the country.
She has a rare disability called damnigotcaughtoutitis
It's unfortunate but many "homeless" people suffer from it.
nwo97 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:38:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe that she doesn't have a disability because from my experience of being caught doing something completely wrong and knowing it is completely wrong I become very frantic and start saying and doing things that otherwise would not make sense to someone who isn't in my brain. So I'm assuming, she got caught and was very embarrassed and scared of what was going to happen to her so her brain goes into overdrive and tries to resolve the situation but it completely just lacks coherent sense when she speaks.
Only if she makes something like over $200 or $300 a month and does not report it as income.
The SSDI people take extra income VERY seriously - as they should. What most people don't realize is they can still work while on SSDI and they are actually encouraged to as long as the job won't make their disability worse and they are honest about how much money they make. I believe the amount of benefits are just adjusted accordingly.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:29:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Over the last month I became a victim of a clever scam while out shopping. Simply going out to get supplies has turned out to be quite traumatic. Don't be naive enough to think it couldn't
happen to you.
Here's how the scam works:
Two seriously good-looking 18 or 19-year-old girls come over to your car as you are packing your shopping into the trunk. They both start wiping your windshield with a rag and Windex, with their breasts almost falling out of their skimpy T-shirts. It is impossible not to look.
When you thank them and offer them a tip, they say "No" and instead ask you for a ride to another Home Depot. You agree and they get in the back seat. On the way, they start having sex with each other. Then one of them climbs over into the front seat and performs oral sex on you, while the other one steals your wallet.
I had my wallet stolen May 4th, 9th, 10th, twice on the 15th, 17th, 20th, 21st, three times just yesterday, and very likely again this upcoming weekend as soon as I can buy some more wallets.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:22:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in a pretty small town (25,000 people.) There's a weird homeless cabal in my town. Like, it's all the same people, but sometimes they have each others signs, like there's a sign repository, and they just grab one from the pile. Apparently, there's like a head "beggar" and he collects a cut from each of them.
How many more years until people realize its not illegal to film people in public lmao
nate-x ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:29:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her response is evidence of her disability. No rational person goes to the drive thru and knocks when someone's taping them. She could've just got in the car and driven off. She clearly has some issues.
Not only is she dishonest to do this, it ruins it for the people that actually need money. There was someone in our neighborhood who was begging for change who shouldn't have been like her. Now, I can't give money to anyone because I don't know what their situation is.
People do this all the time in Canada. Dirty Panhandlers. Specifically the ones who walk up to your car while at lights.
Actual homeless tend to not bother and put cups/signs out.
A buddy of mine is a cop and confirmed a few of the people I see regularly have a house/rent and can generate, in some situations, $50k a year of untaxed dollars. Which in Canada means basically a salary of $75k a year....
All this videos reveals is that she drives a Fiat. She still could technically be homeless.
๐๏ธ SK_RVA ยท 414 points ยท Posted at 16:26:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She asked person filming if he think one needs to be homeless to panhandle. Yet her sign says she is. She looks clean and nice clothes/nice car, no way she is homeless.
I've been homeless with a car and managed to bathe everyday. Granted, I didn't panhandle because I was busy with school and looking for a job, but my point is there's a misconceived notion that all homeless people are dirty and unkempt looking. They're not. You may have encountered a homeless person and didn't know.
zorroz ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:10:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately this is highly accurate. I've seen so many people wear buissness suits and you'd never know they were homeless. People with child support payments and a student loan actively looking for full time work for example.
๐๏ธ SK_RVA ยท 133 points ยท Posted at 16:42:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see what you are saying, and I think that is sometimes true, but not in this case. She basically admits she isn't. I am torn on the whole thing because when I see people begging, I kind of feel like "at least they aren't stealing and victimizing people or being a prostitute." But this woman really seems to be taking advantage of people by deceiving them.
Is it just me or does no one else know that people can have a newer car and still be homeless? I own a 2011 Camry and have for 4 years. It was a gift from a family member who wanted a new car and could afford to give away the older one. If I lost my job or had another bout of pneumonia, I'd be living in the damned thing. If I lost my job 5 years ago, I'd have a two year old Toyota Camry AND be living in the damned thing.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What people here are neglecting to think about is that minimum wage jobs, which are generally available, don't pay as much as panhandling. I'm a skilled craftsman in a very skill specific job that pays well. And I live in the SF Bay Area making a decent living, but I'm absolutely broke at the end of each month. I'm paying $2500/month rent on a house I don't own. That's $30,000/year in rent alone. Add insurance and utilities and my monthly bills before things like groceries, gas, car repairs/tires/oil-change/etc and cell phone are over $3500/month. Exactly how much is my "wealthy" relative supposed to "help me out"? Maybe I got help for one month and that $5000 is now gone 6 weeks later.
There's a hundred reasons why someone would be out on the street, perfectly healthy looking and broke. I have a spine injury that leaves in debilitating pain 24/7. If it wasn't for Obamacare I wouldn't have health insurance to pay for the pain meds that give me my life back.
So there's ALWAYS a reason this gal may well NOT be what OP says she is.
I always always give money to young people with signs like "hitchin across the US" or whatever. Young people just experiencing life. They get my money always. I respect that honesty.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:41:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Generally people assign accountability for a deception to the deceiver, not the deceived.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:16:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So since the "product" she is selling is fake/lies/deceit, then would you be ok with Snake Oil salesman and other scammers not being prosecuted or held accountable when their "product" turns out to be a fraud? I think that's the point that's trying to be made here. What she is selling is a lie. If we don't allow others to do it in other ways, why is it ok for her to defraud people using emotional manipulation instead of fraudulent market data or a fake product?
fllr ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:20:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The difference being she is not "selling" anything... It it entirely up to you to give your money to her, or not. This is a donation, not a purchase.
She is being fraudulent. This isn't a hard concept. She is withholding information that would otherwise influence a person's decision on whether or not to give her money. That is fraud.
It not only hurts the donor, but those that actually do need the help. She took money that could have gone to someone actually starving (opportunity cost) and is contributing to a chilling effect that discourages people from giving out spare change under skepticism that the beggar actually needs the help.
Most people feel empathy and would gladly fund a hungry person's next meal. Many of those same people would not be interested in helping some random woman make her car payment this month, on a car newer than the one they are driving no less.
I don't get the point on confronting her. To shame her? She's already doing basically the most shameful thing in America, begging. %99.999 of people don't want to beg, so this guy assumes he's found the %.001 that is cheating the system. That's a big assumption Imo
I would agree that people who beg out of genuine need probably feel shame beyond what most of us will experience. However, I think people who beg to run a con probably don't feel shame at all; they're probably laughing to themselves every time someone buys it.
I would say this. The shame I think comes from knowing you have nowhere else to turn to but the help of others and then physically showing that to thousands of people by asking them for help. If you're conning people, you know you don't need to be doing that, so the shame isn't really there.
That's just my life experience. I'm not an expert on homelessness. Often on reddit and elsewhere when people talk about begging it's the humiliating lowest part of thier life.
Another misconception: that homeless people must be deferential to others, otherwise they are lying. That they "owe" the world an explanation (which in many cases would mean outing themselves as LGBTQ, rape victims, psychologicallly disabled, drug addicted, etc.). Being homeless doesn't mean you necessary lose all sense of dignity.
It's true that telling a story may get them more sympathy money, but keep in mind this isn't someone asking to hear her story over lunch. This is two strange guys she doesn't know walking up to her threateningly with a camera. I'm not surprised she didn't want to tell them her personal details whether or not she's "guilty."
Idk if the woman in question is actually homeless or not, but her attitude alone doesn't rule it out.
Okay think about this. You start out begging when you really need it. You start making decent money doing it. A couple years pass. You don't need to do it anymore, but it became a crutch. You don't have the experience to do something that pays more. You have a two year break in employment, so even if you are qualified for something decent, it'd be tough justifying it. I could see how this could easily become difficult to get out of.
Another misconception: that homeless people must be deferential to others, otherwise they are lying. That they "owe" the world an explanation (which in many cases would mean outing themselves as LGBTQ, rape victims, psychologicallly disabled, drug addicted, etc.). Being homeless doesn't mean you necessary lose all sense of dignity.
It's true that telling a story may get them more sympathy money, but keep in mind this isn't someone asking to hear her story over lunch. This is two strange guys she doesn't know walking up to her threateningly with a camera. I'm not surprised she didn't want to tell them her personal details whether or not she's "guilty."
Idk if the woman in question is actually homeless or not, but her attitude alone doesn't rule it out.
I've lived on the streets. Not ashamed of it at all, just another cross to bear, and a hurdle to be overcome, which I did. It helped make me who I am today. Why should I be ashamed of it? If I had not asked for help, I'd likely still be there.
Edit: Sigh. Downvoted, but no reasons why. What is it that I said that you disagree with?
Glad you got through it! I'm not saying people should be ashamed, just that people get shamed. This thread is proof that the public at large has very negative views of begging.
Idk, selling that $20,000 car to get a little money for rent and a down payment seems like the more optimal thing to do than beg don't you? I mean she can get a cheaper car that will serve the same purpose. She's voluntarily out there begging for cash when she's got it.
Perhaps that car is the only possession she has. People can have possessions and still be homeless. I was living out of my car for a bit a while back and it was the thin thread that kept me from turning into a feral dog living under a bridge.
The problem of course, is that she has an asset worth many thousands of dollars. She spends her time parking that car, and going to ask other people for their money. Why should anyone give her their money if she's unwilling to make a sacrifice as simple as selling her car, and buying something less expensive? Why should anyone give somebody money that isn't being truthful to them?
I don't want to give a homeless person money so they don't have to sell their late model Fiat. Too many people don't even know where their next meal will come from for me to be wasting my money on somebody else's car payment.
I get that you're advocating for giving people the benefit of the doubt, that's honorable and I commend you for it. But at some point there's so much evidence that somebody isn't being truthful, that it becomes important to be a voice for those that actually do need the help.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:23:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That car is nearly new. She could sell it, use public transit, and get a place to live with the proceeds.
That's if I believed she was homeless, which I do not.
She should stop begging and go in that McDonalds and get a job.
Okay, so sell your car so you can pay for rent for a few months only to end up completely homeless again?
If you end up unemployed and own a car it makes no sense to liquidate the car just to throw money into rent. An automobile holds value and even if it breaks down can be used as a reliable source of shelter. Paying rent on the other hand is just burning money away for temporary relief.
A car that new she's likely still making significant payments on it. It's basically the same issue either way. Selling the car would net her enough profit to float for a bit and find a place to live or a job if she were really unemployed due to situations outside her control. If she doesn't sell the car everything she earns panhandling is likely to go towards paying for the car lest a repo agency show up and take it and she gets no value out of it.
These douchey cameramen assume to know everything about her... While they will probably get paid soon for youtube views and the internet laughs and insults. Disgusting behavior.
Look again, there is no proof at all that is actually her car. That shirt she is wearing, could easily be from goodwill.
ITT: hundreds of people being disrespectful to other human beings so it makes themselves feel better about their own financial situation. Does anyone stop to actually think "Well gee, we don't really know what her situation really is do we?" No. Shame on you all. Nobody stops to even consider why people like her might be forced to go out there? We point and laugh and blame and insult- as if she is some kind of subhuman - it's sick. Meanwhile the youtube video is probably going to be making easy cash while this lady who could genuinely have major problems - is aggressively harassed.
It's not "women like this" who are a problem with society. It's "videos like this" and people who laugh and make themselves feel better about their own financial position - that is the problem with society.
Well, they are stealing. It's stealing if I tell you I'm collecting money for a charity and keep it, and it's stealing if I tell you I'm homeless and need money for food and go buy an Xbox with it, at least to the extent that fraud = theft. Taking money through force and money through deception aren't very different.
I can see that, my plan if I ever become homeless, is to live out of my car, and get a gym membership. I can do laundry at a landromat, take showers and work out at 24 hour and sleep in my car. Probably would be able to do more without having to pay rent each month if I started living like that. Dog probably wouldnt enjoy it though.
I know this doesn't apply to like 99% of the homeless populous but just for shits and giggles: My uncle, who is an amazing person, was in between housing and was currently making close to 100k a year, he had this big van that he sorta retro fitted to be a much much smaller trailer...long story short he got a gym membership to cover the hygiene deficiency without a home... He did this for about 18 months before he found a place he liked. got in great shape, spent a lot of time with family and friends because he didn't have a "home" to watch TV and be bored at, and was in all honesty just in a great place. He was technically homeless despite looking and feeling great
It's not so much the objective evidence that marks her as not legitimately homeless as much as the woman's behavior. She never really made an attempt to deny it. She just makes every effort to remove the business problem in whatever way she can think of.
We don't have much real evidence to work with here. It's all speculation. I don't really see this as evidence to the contrary though. There are a lot of reasons she might not handle an unexpected confrontation well.
Goleeb ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree the car, and all that seems like circumstantial evidence. Though the way she expects everyone else to take care of these guys for her seems like someone who is pampered. I assume a women that has spent sometime homeless would know how do deal with people harassing her. That too though is circumstantial.
Is there a link to her sign? I didn't see it in the video. All I saw was a claim that she was "being aggressive" because she was slowly shaking the sign.
That doesn't mean in thing unless you put your own inference on it. Asking that question doesn't mean it's about her or her reasons. There's not any proof here. Just two men following a woman around a parking lot yelling at her.
Still. Being jobless and struggling is good enough IMO. Trying not to become homeless/starve. Why wait until you're fully dug into that hole to start asking for help? I know if I found myself suddenly unable to eat, or risking getting evicted, I would have no problem with begging.
Yeah, I think the rage here risks hurting folks that need to resort to begging others for a handout in order to make ends meet. As you say, life can be shit (or on the cusp of becoming shit) even if you aren't homeless.
Maybe this lady is 100% fake, publicising her scam does little more than anger up the blood of viewers (she pissed me off too [edit: then I realised I don't know her true circumstances or backstory]). But considering this video doesn't really hurt her (is it really likely that her or the 'victims' are going to see this?), what the point?
The rage over the odd "million dollar mansion faker" story helps justify a "fuck this guy" attitude towards all of the less fortunate - not necessarily from all rational viewers, but a good chunk (I'll wager) want to be able to feel that all beggars are scammers. It sure does feel better to think that way!
Edit: removed "as you say". Don't want to put words in your mouth. Sorry
Edit 2: and to those saying she's mentally ill not homeless, should was say "well fuck her, out here living the 'good life' on someone else's dime"? Maybe her sign does lie, but perhaps a sign saying "open your window and give me money I'm mentally ill" just doesn't connect with people in the same way.
While I'm at it. Who knows the integrity and motivation of these citizen journalists? Harassing her because what she's doing "is wrong" might not capture the full story.
All I'm saying is get off your rage horses, have a little perspective. Whenever I feel the rage (I did when I first watched), try to find a reasonable explanation. Going through life assuming everyone is a scammy cunt (although this lady might be) isn't conducive to improving the world.
publicising her scam does little more than anger up the blood of viewers
And one of those viewers might be someone who has done this on occasion, or may be thinking about doing it. If it stops even one person from pulling this shit then I'd say that's a victory.
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:26:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:44:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it's way more likely to perpetuate the insane idea that every single begging or on welfare has a Mercedes and makes 6 figures gaming the system.
Good point, but I think either way you slice it the homeless are getting less money than they should. If you don't make people aware, the amount of scammers are going to continue to increase and take money from people who really need it. If you make people aware of the scammers, they're going to be more cautious as a result and be a bit more selective of who they give their money to.
I think these scammers are already much more prevalent than you think (at least it is here), and it's going to continue being an issue until it stops being lucrative for them, or there are consequences for doing it. I'd rather that people are aware of it so that they're directing their money to shelters and such where you know it's going to be put to good use.
When most people think of homeless, they don't think about people having cars. Most real homeless would consider sleeping in a car on par with staying a 5-star hotel.
It was pretty wussy and unprofessional. Run the license plates, do some research.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:34:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, she doesn't fit into whatever the neckbeard cameraman's idea of what a panhandler should be, so she deserves to be harassed and exploited on the internet?
12th comment down is the first reasonable response. What's happened to this site?
edit: Imagine yourself broke, no food and about to be evicted. Just can't quite land a job. Do you sell your car? Move out of your home? Or start begging to prevent that from happening before shit gets out of hand? It actually pisses me off that I even need to explain this. Have some god damned empathy, people...
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*that she likes to place her things on a FIAT that might or might not be hers
Not all disabilities keep you from working a nine-to-five either. Especially not disabilities that leave you fully capable of driving, able to form coherent sentences, standing for hours on end and jogging from time to time, and manipulating other people around you for cash in a devious, self thought out, scheme.
I'm not defending her, nor commenting on the video at all. Just replying to his comment.
VGBAMF ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:53:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homelessness, panhandling, and being transient are three different things, and I wish we talked about them more clearly and openly.
Panhandlers are often not homeless. When I did daily deposits for my company several years back, my timing often matched up with a nearby panhandler's, who deposited ~$700/day before leaving in a BMW.
Transients are often opportunists who movefrom city to city, looking for the freest ride before settling in. My city has a large transient population filled with people from across the country because of its reputation for providing 3 good meals to the homeless, having space, and low drug enforcement.
Both of these populations are different than people who are genuinely homeless and seeking a path back to getting their feet back under them.
Transients and panhandlers often want minimum work for maximum reward. They don't want a job. A homeless person does. They often aren't interested in being helped into a self-sufficient lifestyle. A homeless person is.
Homeless people rarely beg and are usually be grateful for help received, want sustainable things, and are willing to accept responsibility. Begging is very rare.
Conversely, panhandlers and transients are often aggressive or humorous in their requests for handouts. They will approach people on streets, stand outside bars at 2 in the morning and try to empty wallets, or enter businesses where only teenage girls are working and intimidate them.
The more aggressive and visible someone is, the less likely they are to be in genuine need.
These are my observations from living in a city for 20 years and walking my dog 3X a day and talking to people on my walks. I talked to people on the street often (50% of the time they asked me to give them my dog so they could make more money), and never once met a panhandler in genuine need. Once I gave a guy a sandwich I'm just bought only to watch him walk to the nearest garbage can and throw it away before finding another person.
As a result, I only give to organizations that feed homeless people, not to people on the street. I'm very lucky that great organizations make sure everyone has 3 meals in my city, and I'm happy to support them. We all need food and shelter, but I've had way too many experiences with aggressive panhandling to reward it in any way.
How to stop fake homeless people from scamming: don't give anyone begging on the street money. There are enough public and private welfare and assistance programs to take of everyone who is truly in need. The only reason a woman like this is on the street begging for money is because the scam works. Many people feel guilty and hand over money and then think that makes them a good person. Sadly , it does not. It just opens you up to scams which have been going on for years and one viral video from Richmond is not going to stop it. Think of all the people who did NOT see this. I know it is hard for some to believe that people fake poverty to get cash, but that is the real world.
Ok, but telling someone they are not disabled is messed up. I have a disability resulting from a traumatic brain injury. I do not look disabled. I continue to work but suffer from constant dizziness and vertigo that makes it very difficult and dangerous to stand for any duration. I'm not saying this woman is or is not disabled, but it is not fair to just decide she isn't because of her nice car and start yelling accusations. Yes, it seems shady and probably is, but she could very well be disabled, as she claims.
I think it was more along the lines of while she was out panhandling her sign says it's because she's homeless, but when confronted about it with her sign folded up, suddenly it's because she's disabled. She just changed her story to fit the moment.
Voixoff ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:58:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're correct, COULD be, but pretty unlikely since she immediately tries to divert attention. She's panhandling, in a brand new car while "homeless" actually running up and down the the center median wearing a shirt that says "I train while you sleep"
Her only disability is the lack of ability to see that what she is doing is not ok
You work, and so could she. Long hours in the Sun and even some intermittent jogging, fully capable of driving and taking part in coherent conversation. She looks to be in shape enough and her shirt shows that she may even like to exercise. She's not an agoraphobic person nor one that suffers from anxiety issues. She simply doesn't seem to be as mentally or physically where she could not hold down a job.
Telling someone they aren't disabled when they claim to be disabled, but in reality are not disabled whatsoever is something you should get a gold star for.
Fuck those lying scumbags.
Nasty-J ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 17:03:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just don't give money to anyone. They're all either scammers or junkies that slow down traffic for us working folk.
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 17:55:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah fuck hungry people, right?! All those hungry people could eat trash, why do they beg me hard-working law-abiding role model citizen with spectacular abs for a dollar!!!!
I agree with this. If they're really hungry they won't turn down a free meal. It's really sad that we have to decide who is really homeless and who isn't. And it's because of people like the lady in the video.
There are homeless shelters and plenty of services in my city for these people. In fact in my city there is a charity that encourages people to give THEM your loose change, rather than the homeless who wont spend it on what they need. I imagine most cities are like this.
Why do you think so many of them get pissed off if you try to give them food? They dont want food. They can get food easily- They want money.
Also my city has a HUGE problem with intersection beggars. Every street corner is littered with them. You hit a red light and one or more person is going to be knocking on your window begging for money. This is not okay. Especially when lots of them have nicer clothing than I do. You can tell the real deal from the fakers- The real deal dont wear nice clean high end brand clothing.
When you give homeless people money you're just making yourself feel better while you enable them to slowly kill themselves. They will NEVER get better if they can tread the water begging for change to feed their addicitons. You are killing them to make yourself feel all fuzzy inside. If you REALLY cared you'd be at a soup kitchen or some other charity dedicated to ACTUALLY helping the homeless, rather than giving them the .50c in your pocket.
Nasty-J ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats exactly the mindset these street hustlers want you to have. These people aren't starving and if they are it's probably because they pissed away their food stamps/ EBT.
Wow, she feels exposed and vulnerable so she gives them death threats.
wisrd ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:58:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a little scared of going against what seems to be the consensus here, but here goes. I actually know a few homeless people, some through volunteering at a shelter and some because my apartment is near a popular socializing spot for homeless people. I've never met a person who was pretending to be homeless and wasn't, and, while I'm not saying they don't exist, I don't think they're nearly as prevalent as everyone in this thread seems to think they are.
I also do give money to panhandlers regularly. I don't give food unless they specifically ask for it (which does happen sometimes). The truth is most homeless people don't really need food. At least where I live, there's a good few soup kitchen's about, and you can get a ton of calories off the McDonald's dollar menu for next to nothing. People do often need stuff like good socks, or a jacket that's actually mildly warming, which are a lot harder to find for cheap/free. They usually know what they need better than you do.
But what if they spend it on booze or drugs or luxury items? I don't really care. If a man in an Armani suit came up to to you and said he was really sorry, but needed a buck and would appreciate it if you would spot him, would you be like, "No, I don't think you need or deserve it enough." Hell, I even needed to ask a stranger to cover me during finals week when I urgently needed a blue book and the shop's card machine was down. I don't think charity needs to be precipitated by an in-depth poverty analysis. And if someone turns around and spends that money on crack or plastic bottle vodka, I honestly don't care either. If I slept on church steps behind a poorly constructed cardboard privacy wall and carried all my worldly possessions in a stolen shopping cart, I'd probably look for any escape I could find, too.
People exist who will take advantage of other people's kindness pretty much everywhere, panhandling included. I don't think that's a reason to start restricting our kindness to situations where we can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the person we are kind to "deserves" our help. That dollar could mean a lot to someone else, whereas for us it costs nothing or our immortal soul, depending on who you listen to.
Looks like fraud and multiple threats spilling out of her mouth, all on record. Did they not the call the police cause they knew they'd do little to nothing about this thief?
Pretty good shape. Probably goes to the gym after traffic hour is over.
w00tah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:33:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a formerly ACTUALLY homeless person, anyone acting the part is a piece of shit.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:33:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The real shame is between people like this woman, and the guy who followed me for three blocks last week calling me every swear word there is because I don't smoke and couldn't bum him a cig, it can be dangerously easy to villify all homeless/impoverished people.
If you're reading this keep in mind there are poor people out there who are decent human beings in dire circumstances they have no control over. If we can have a redditquette on here, and remember to be respectful to others, we can carry that to the physical world and never assume homeless/poor = always scumbag scammer asshole.
This is why I never give beggars money. It's unfortunate, but this happens a lot. I've caught people in lies many times. All you have to do is ask a few questions.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:28:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Someone's gonna kill you."
Wow.
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 16:30:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never give homeless money. They're either druggies, alcoholics, people with mental issues, or people like this women scamming people. If you want to help out the homeless, donate money to a local shelter or organization that aids them.
EDIT: I'm not saying I hate those people. I'm just saying if you want to really help them, donate to a shelter. You don't know who or what kind of people they are. They could be scamming you out, they could use that money to buy alcohol or drugs. I'd rather put my money where I know it'll matter, versus taking a risk.
This is what bothers the fuck out of me. I mean damn I walk past people sitting on a crappy blanket in the doorway with no home and I want to help them. It just sucks that there are so many that are cheating or are going to buy booze. You want to help the real ones so bad.
Yes, the only way to separate the scum from the actual needy, is you offer to go buy them some food, its more work for you but It'll be better off 99% of the time, you could also end up saving an addict from burning the money on drugs instead of what he actually needs to survive.
Go to a store and grab em a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter, it'll get them further than pre-made more expensive shit
You can't give a warm meal to someone sitting on the street or outside the store, so the money is better spent at a shelter that buys in cheaper bulks of raw ingredients and cooks them. Healthier, cheaper and it's a consistent source of food for homeless to frequent. An overpriced sandwich or burger is still better than nothing though.
rjbman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:53:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pro tip: you can give leftovers though!
Revircs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even some water and sanitary wipes would be helpful.
250kcal ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:40:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, unless you watch them eat it in front of you, they will just trade that food for drugs.
Ehh, kinda hard to trade a cold Quarter Pounder to any legitimate drug dealer. Though if there was another homeless person that had drugs and wanted the food instead, I could see it working. But still, not as easy as paying cash for drugs.
Voixoff ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:38:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All this proves is that she drives a car, not that she isn't homeless. I think there is something potentially wrong with her, the way she runs to an adult when she's old as shit. I don't think she's entirely with it
I think people have a very clean-cut, black-and-white definition of homelessness in their heads. The mere fact that she's not wearing rags and has a new-ish cars isn't proof of anything. It's no more meaningful than when politicians rail about low-income people having fancy iphones.
On another level, is homelessness the only standard by which panhandlers are certified as legit?
Agreed, but keep in mind how clean she looks, she probably also has a gym membership to shower in.
Is it wrong of me to say not to jump to conclusions on this lady?
e92zcp ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:01:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes she drives a car, a fucking Fiat and not some rusted old Chevy. She's obviously doing just fine financially and most likely has a home and no "disability".
She ran to the closest person she could find because she was trying to make a scene to get them to leave. You can tell by her reaction that she never expected to get caught. She was arguing the same way my teenager does when he gets caught red handed.
Yes she drives a car, a fucking Fiat and not some rusted old Chevy. She's obviously doing just fine financially and most likely has a home and no "disability".
she might be recently homeless
e92zcp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then she should be resorting to things like downgrading her vehicle and dropping that gym membership before lying to strangers and begging for money.
I am disabled. I often do not call ahead of time because I really shouldn't have to. Esp if the place I am going to is a chain, they should have their shit together. And yeah, disabled people get pissed. Do you have any idea how much shit we have to put up with just to do normal things? God forbid your disability doesn't involve the constant use of a wheelchair or you will be constantly berated by "do-gooders" who think they are exposing "fakers" when really they are just harassing disabled people.
I've had a woman spit in my face for using my disabled parking spot because I "look healthy." I have a damn doctor for every part of my body. My body is a fucking house of cards waiting to tumble any minute and I have to tell complete strangers about my medical history all the time just to avoid being harassed. Do you have to tell complete strangers your private medical history on the daily while they look at you disgustedly? You try going through that for years and not getting pissed at the next person in your face accusing you of being a faker.
You'd be surprised how getting caught doing something wrong makes people do the most illogical things. I'm not saying she doesn't suffer from some sort of mental disability, but her behavior debunks that notion as much as it proves it. I mean, the fact that she brought up her "disability" at the perfect moment, to me, suggests it can't be serious enough to prevent her from knowing that her actions are wrong. My experience with people who have mental disabilities is that there isn't a ton of self-awareness surrounding the disability itself, especially not in time of distress. But who knows? I'm not a psychological expert.
This is misplaced energy: harassing someone who might be doing something unethical, but is not, as far as we see in this video, breaking the law in any way. Yeah, she probably doesn't report the income on her taxes, but I don't know how random harassment by some angry dude with a phone is going to resolve that.
There's so much large-scale bullshit and corruption going on right now by corporations and government that pursuing a single, sketchy individual seems pointless and stupid. Your energy would be much better applied to catching the big fish. Of course, that would require strategy and planning.
I had an interesting interaction with a beggar just this last weekend. She came up to my wife, and kids, as we were packing up to leave, and asked for food. Normally, I automatically say no to any panhandler, but since she was asking for food, I stopped and looked in the car. She was scruffy, was wearing only socks, and was pretty dirty. She definitely looked homeless, or at least desperate enough to want food instead of money. We had oranges, and some baby food. Not a great selection, but, we did have a package of peaches for the kids. I grabbed two oranges, the package of peaches, and turned to offer them to her.
"what the fuck am I supposed to do with that? It isn't food?"
Uh... Ok. I guess we have nothing for you, the. She then staggered over to a lifted truck, fell over... then picked up a pair of shoes that were next to the, stumbled again, and then stumbled down the road.
She was way off the planet... I wonder if I missed some kind of hidden message in her asking for food.
A guy walks up to me once as I'm heading to my car from buying groceries. "Hey buddy, I need help,my truck ran out of gas at the intersection of 80 and 133 and I rolled it to the gas station across the street. But I noticed I didn't have my wallet with me. Can you help me with just 1 gallon of gas. "
The guy seemed sincere and like he needed help. I told him...I don't carry cash...and before I could say anything else he said, "thank you anyways" and walked away.
A week later I see him approaching another guy and say : "Hey buddy, I need help,my truck ran out of gas at the intersection of 80 and 133 and I rolled it to the gas station across the street. But I noticed I didn't have my wallet with me. Can you help me with just 1 gallon of gas. "
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shoulda offered to go to the gas station and pay with your card, bet he'd of bocked.
Mattums ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My biggest problem is that seeing people like this make me less likely to want to give to people who might genuinely need it. So really, it's less about how she's screwing me or other people by taking money away from us... it's how she's taking money away from real homeless people. Why is it that the people with the least amount of morals in this country end up with all the money? Sigh.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would it be reasonable to make their own signs that say "This woman is a thief, etc & then follow her around town."
yagidy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why does she run to the McD's employees for help?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And this is why I don't give shit to people on the street. I donate food to local food banks. No one should be giving these people on the street money.
She never called the cops because she knew if the cops came they would arrest her for fraud vagrancy McDonalds is within their right to tow her car since she is using their parking lot to commit fraudulent acts....come on lady call the cops
According to the site posted above a 4 lane road w/ left turn lanes (which that road looks like it is imo) can see 31,000 cars a day.
So say she gets a dollar from maybe every fiftieth car that goes through ( I think that's fair). That is 620 dollars untaxed that she gets to take home. Makes six figures a year. Obviously this is speculation but c'mon, this shit is weak.
yup pretty sweat scam, if she has combined it with a BS disablitiy claim to cover her main living expences the IRS would track she is golden. hell she prolly also gets food stams and sells the card for cash as well.
My guess why she didn't really want to call the cops: She knew there was nothing they would do and she didn't want to pull her phone out of her purse to show that she had one.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bitch I work at McDonalds do I look like law enforcement to you?
abefg4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you see someone begging on the street like this, give them some food or water, not money. If they are greatful, they're likely homeless. It's the ones who aren't that you can tell are faking being so.
There are fake homeless people in my town who literally are on their $500 powered cell phone with service all fucking day while begging for money and people STILL give them money. There needs to be some sort of big campaign against these people.
You do realize you can get a phone for a few dollars down and pay a little bit a month, right? Having a phone, even an expensive one doesn't mean a damn thing.
Look man she's just a street performer you like her act give her the money you don't like it just walk away. Who cares she's homeless or not. The dude was just happy that the video is going to go viral.
jawshoe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty common in new york. Major categories here are disabled, mentally ill, drug addicts, and fake. Id say they are relatively evenly distributed
I was always curious how much these people make. So I tried this once. Dressed down, chose a busy intersection, and started pacing with my sign. After an hour I made $2.
I am actually homeless and I appreciate that there are people exposing asswipes like her. I busk (play street music) for a living and I work hard for the little money I get. I dont panhandle and I don't ask for money other than tips for my muaic and I never verbally ask for money. I can't stand that some people want to just leech off society by begging for money, I wish people had a little more self respect than to beg, it's cowardly and shows that they cant face their issues head on. Like I said I work hard for what little I get, and I'm well below the poverty line. But I still do not agree with the process of panhandling whether in an aggressive nature or not.
because everyone deserves a living wage or because you're finally not a heartless monster?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:10:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who works in Richmond, VA...I wouldn't expect anything less out of these people.
You have people like this, you also have people dressed in expensive clothes, holding up a sign claiming to be homeless while they text on their iPhone behind said sign. Then you have the most common form of homeless people, the "Homeless Veteran". The reason i put the quotes is because in 2015 VA became the first state to "functionally" end Homeless Veterans, meaning all of the homeless vets you see are either lying about being vets, or were offered housing but declined.
In 8th grade our teacher made us to a little research assignment on homelessness. I don't remember exact numbers or anything but I was shocked how many are actually scammers. I do remember reading if you do anything buy and offer them food. If they are really needy they'll take it.
A classmate of mine had a crazy story about how their family saw a homeless man and he wanted a train ticket home to see his family. Well they buy him they ticket take him to the train station. Who do they see a few days later? The same guy back out asking people for money. He traded the ticket in for cash.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:12:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That McDonald's employee doesn't give a fuck lol. Why should anyone give a fuck? I'm so tired of these cell phone vigilantes.
Don't get me wrong, this lady is dumb. But is it really worth this? These guys just want to be internet famous.
impmd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For those that actually want their money to do THE MOST GOOD: give well !
For those that actually want their money to do LOCAL GOOD EFFICIENTLY read these reviews
My opinion is aligned with you. I'll offer to buy a sandwich if the person looks younger. And I always name the locations in town that I've volunteered at before. Also two shelters in town.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This bitch wont get anywhere in South Africa. Unless you can fake a lost limb, or some mental retardation, you are fucked.
Not only is she ripping off the drivers, but she is also hurting the real homeless people who need help.
I already suspected this was happening a lot in LA, because sometimes the people begging are better dressed than I am and they want my money. But I always try to assume the best, but people like this now push me towards assuming they are con people. So I will be much less likely to give to them.
snorlz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go away from me, you stupid
this is like a preschool level insult
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really sad, but this is why I avoid helping homeless people. I literally do not know if I'm helping someone in need or giving someone who makes double what I make, a bunch of my money that would benefit me and my debt more. My wife brought food to a woman with kids and a sign saying they needed money for food and the woman said.. no shit "I would prefer cash, what do you want me to do with this?" bitch I want you to feed your so called starving ass and kids. Gave chicken nugs to the kids then I opened her burger and started eating it while walking away. Don't put your fucking hands out for help, then think you are entitled to more than what someone is trying to offer you.
gghggg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I only give out drugs to homeless people! That way I know I'm not being screwed!!
Yes this is sickening that people lie and steal for their own benefit, but it happens on a much larger scale on a daily basis. I truly believe she does have a disability or is sick, because bottom line drug addicts are sick people in and I truly believe that is why she would be doing something of this nature. If she had money she would not be begging for it on the side of the road, it would just be nice to see her get help rather than scamming people for a dollar or two.
Poor people arguing amongst eachother, never seen that before.
berggg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a couple of these people in my hometown. I've not seen it with my own eyes but I've been told people have witnessed them getting in and out of the same car everyday with a clear trash bag full of cans.
I've also heard someone ended up following the car and finding out they live in the same condo complex as the "homeless" person.
Most of this is all based on he said she said but I've gotta say I've never seen any homeless person in my city or even the surrounding cities (which some aren't the best places around) and I'm curious how they get to the spots that they beg at considering I don't think there is any public transit even close.
I've always hoped I could expose them in the way this person does.
There was a legitimate homeless guy that lived in the park by my apartment complex. He never panhandled, and he talked to himself a lot. I think he may have been schizophrenic. He had a few dogs with him as well and kept up with this outdoor animal house in the park for when freak snowstorms came by. I gave him packaged food all the time, and he was always very happy for it. I wasn't sure what else I could have done, this guy actually needed help.
Meanwhile, I was in Austin, Texas one time and was harassed constantly by young, mentally intact "homeless" people. They were fairly well dressed (sort of hipster style), and well kept. This was a huge contrast to me. It reminded me a lot of that panhandling episode from King of the Hill.
It's these sorts of people that have made me so skeptical for people in need. I suppose if they were truly just hungry, or looking for a job, or need gas, they don't care if they get the cash, they only care about the end game item. As in, if they're actually hungry and you give them a sandwich then they're satisfied. If they need a gas, and you simply buy them gas, then they're completely good.
I tried it for 8 hours one day as punishment for coming in last place in my fantasy football league. I made just over $380, better than the 2nd place team's earnings ($250). Needless to say, we didn't do that for the last place team again.
Begging is her business model. It never has nor never will demand honesty. Look at the situation. It is not right, but neither is the fucking society she is in. Money, or die.
At least it isn't about completely shafting people and poisoning them while forcing them to pay for it or possibly die from dehydration.
Typical closet criminal. Get called out on their shit and all of a sudden they're the victim, and proceed to latch onto anything to get the people exposing them off them, from lying, claiming ignorance, and worst of all going to others and seeing if she can play the damsel in distress card to get them to help her in the heat of the moment. They'll do whatever it takes just so they can continue being the horrible human beings they are.
I see fake homeless often enough that I never, ever give to homeless people anymore. I give to some charities monthly that I have researched properly and want to support.
"Organized pan handling" is all over the place in both Richmond and Charlottesville. You can see them in Cville on just about every major intersection. Same folks rotating through the same spots every day. One pissed me off bc I had to explain "Fuck the world" to my 10 year old little bc of this guys sign.
Long story short, follow the feedback here and donate to a shelter if you want to help the homeless. These organized folks are a business basically.
The pan handling got so bad in my town that it was straight up outlawed. They used to be at every interstate exit, but now it's rare to see any at all.
... I thought everyone gave to the homeless under the assumption they probably aren't?
da1hobo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:43:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do this. Partly because it's the easiest way to make them leave me alone though.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:00:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you are like the person at the beach who gives food to seagulls and then they fly around shitting on other people who had the knowledge to not give food to seagulls?
da1hobo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If in this analogy the seagulls will slash my tires if I don't give them food then yeah I'm that guy.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:04:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL outing a fake homeless person is more morally upstanding than outing a fake veteran
biggoof ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:27:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea he probably does, cause shit like this probably makes him feel superior to someone else, but in this case, I fully support him. There's people with legit needs, and these types of people ruin it for them.
Probably? There is NO PROBABLY there. It most definitely does, and his friend too. Listen to the end of the video, the two sitting in their car laughing and patting each other on the back. "well done dude, exposing this fraud!" Look again, there is no proof at all that is actually her car. That shirt she is wearing, could easily be from goodwill. Just a bunch of assumptions.
Good? Regardless of if the lady is homeless or not- publicly ostracizing people in potentially precarious positions could spell the literal end of someone who is really in a life or death situation. I would hardly call that good.
I'm pretty sure she has some sort of mental impairment. Not saying what she is doing is right and obviously she doesn't need the help of change from strangers. But, I can't reconcile why she would walk up to a McDonald's drive-thru window and ask why they are filming her... Very odd
This will probably get buried but here's my "panhandling" story:
I answered a Craigslist ad for a home builder that was having an open house. They were going to pay me $100 to stand there holding/waving a sign for 4 hours. I lasted 20 minutes. It was the most boring, mind-numbing task I've ever attempted.
If folks want to stand on a corner with a sign in order to make money, I say more power to them. I certainly couldn't do it.
This video is a perfect example of why the internet can be a great thing. Fuck this con artist bitch. She literally had a massive brain fart and didn't know what to do when her worst fears came true. I love it. The guys filming did a fantastic job keeping their cool and not overstepping their bounds. I'm surprised she didn't try to pull the sexual harassment or rape card on them. This chick should be punished for what she's been doing. And that is a nice ass car. CUNT
The internet also sucks because this will be used to paint every homeless person everywhere with a broad brush. This very comment thread is proof enough of that.
Please, please don't think all homeless people are like this. There are way too many people who are homeless but can't get help because of people like this one.
Too late, this video damage has been done tenfold, just look at the thousands of gross comments here. The people who made it should be proud, they've probably caused a real homeless person to die by now, if not soon. They assume to know everything about her... While they will probably get paid soon for youtube views and the internet laughs and insults. Disgusting behavior.
Look again, there is no proof that is actually her car. That shirt she is wearing, could easily be from goodwill. They really know nothing about this stranger. She could be homeless but entirely embarrassed to admit it- gee wonder why.
ITT: hundreds of people being disrespectful to other human beings so it makes themselves feel better about their own financial situation. Does anyone stop to actually think "Well gee, we don't really know what her situation really is do we? We're just assuming a whole awful lot!" No. Shame on you all. Nobody stops to even consider why people like her might be forced to go out there? We point and laugh and blame and insult- as if she is some kind of subhuman - it's sick. Meanwhile the youtube video is probably making easy cash while this lady who could genuinely have major problems - is aggressively harassed.
It's not "women like this" who are a problem with society. It's "videos like this" and people who laugh and make themselves feel better about their own financial position - that is the problem with society.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:49:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah dude, I live in Richmond and pan handling was non existent until recently. It's on every major corner. It's gotten so bad, some counties have put up signs making it illegal but offering help. Yet it continues. Different people, every day, some the same, some dressed better than myself. There may be a legit few but most of them are scammy. There's a couple were the whole family is brought out. Children used as props, animals also used as props. If you can feed yourself, why do you have a dog?
It a huge thing right now in RVA and it's starting to get out of hand. I hope they keep exposing these people and I hope the people exposed learn a lesson.
This is pretty common, people can make a lot of money, when they have just a sign and are aggressive about you giving them money, they are going to be someone like this (a fake). It's become a problem in a lot of places.
Homeless people tend to have their belongings with them. Most do not beg for money like this either.
Better to give the money to an independent small charity that provide hot meals and supplies for homeless people.
purged6 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:20:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a "homeless vet" in my area, every day after rush hour he walks to the craft beer store, buys a six pack and walks home talking on his cell phone.
I live in Richmond. The panhandlers here are intense. I had a friend who was torn between staying in Richmond or moving to Portland, OR. His decision was made for him when, in 24 hours, he:
A) Had one guy hit him up for money on his way into a convenience store (which he gave) and then hit him up again for cigarettes on his way out because "smokes are expensive". And...
B) Had another panhandler come up to his truck at a light downtown in the middle of the night. The guy asked for money, my friend declined, and the guy saw a bucket of change near the center console. It was for tolls in the downtown area. The guy slapped the top of my friend's truck hard and screamed "Mother f****r, you got change, I can see it right there!", prompting my friend to run the light and basically drive until he was in Oregon.
I feel like this type of content doesn't come from sympathy for real homeless people and more from contempt for beggars, at least on Reddit. It seems less about "They're stealing money from real homeless people!" and more about "See? This is why you should never help anyone on the street!".
As for this woman maybe she's scamming, but maybe instead there's a whole wide spectrum between "homeless and broke" and "completely self-sufficient scammer." I don't necessarily want to give her the benefit of the doubt but I definitely don't want to condemn her on the spot and pretend I know her life story.
Had to stop watching when she said she has a disability. What a sorry bitch.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's a lousy thing she's doing :(
SpruxHD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:39:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there was this fat lady that sat in the shade of my local CVS parking lot asking for change, and then my mom told me one day she saw her drive off in a mercedes or something, or drive off with her daughter that worked in the starbucks in the same plaza.
Not ethical, but a work or die system with few essential jobs also invites this kind of behavior.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:04:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Scamming people? Nah. If you give money to a complete stranger you know nothing about, that idiocy is on you.
People who want to help others give money to nonprofits they trust to use their donations wisely. Or if they're bothered by a percentage of their money paying for administrative overhead, then they donate food or clothing or expertise so that 100% of their donation goes to people in need.
who honestly gives a shit about stuff like this, if people want to beg for money all day let them, no one has to give anything and its about as annoying as a go fund me popping up on fb, so who cares..
Im pretty sure it is. I've seen people like this on a daily basis and it infuriates me. Too fucking lazy to work and too stupid to go to school so they do this. There are honest people begging but a majority of them don't need it.
Although this woman is clearly not homeless (and she admits as such) a lot of homeless people do live out of their cars. Owning a car is not evidence of being homeless it is evidence of owning a car. I have worked with a lot of homeless over the years on various job sites and so many of them just park their cars in a nearby lot and sleep in it.
Some were, some weren't. It depends on the year and circumstances. Last year Fort MacMurray burnt down. The vehicle of choice in Fort Mac is a lifted souped up truck. A lot of these people became homeless and those who didn't have money stashed away for emergencies lived in their vehicles. We hired a good number of these people.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:53:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have zero idea if she is homeless and I bet that guy has zero idea either.
Should probably use the efforts to educate about services and the consequences of panhandling to the public. Nah thats probably to much work.
I think this guys being a dick and just screaming in some ladys face cause he thinks she shouldnt be panhandling. He has no proof ethier way.
Its probably scary to have some idiot follow you around in a aggressive manner over panhandling
Xef ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:17:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OK, this woman obviously shouldn't be begging for money, BUT this dude shouldn't be chasing her down like this, either. I especially disliked the part where he made comments about how he didn't see any disabilities. Mental disabilities are serious and shouldn't be ignored just because they can't be seen.
I told this story in another comment thread, but I think it's applicable. I'm not defending her, I just think we can give her the benefit of the doubt before the entire internet becomes so angry.
I knew a guy in high school who suffered from depression and other mental problems, and was incapable of holding a steady job. Eventually his family got sick of him and he ended up being cast out on the streets. I live in a nice area, so he had a nice-ish car, a smartphone, and a suitcase full of his clothes, but after some time of being homeless and living out of his car was begging on the streets. I even remember being like "Why the hell is this guy begging, he has a rich family. What an asshole!" before I knew the whole story.
It makes me sad seeing those comments too like "What disability? She's walking around just fine!" I remember hearing a story about a girl with a heart problem that makes it difficult for her to walk around for long periods of time. She looks fine on the outside, so when people see she was parking in a handicap spot, people would yell at her and throw things at her for being a "fraud" or a "liar" even though she really needed that spot.
Again: I'm not defending her. I don't live anywhere near there, so it's possible she's just totally lying and everyone knows it. If that's the case, then that is horrible and unforgivable, but if she just lost her job, or actually mentally handicapped and is living out of her car, it's also horrible to put her on the spot like that for the entire world to make fun of her.
This is why it's such a crapshoot when deciding to help someone in "need."
2 weeks ago I ran into town to grab some fast-food and stop at Wal-Mart and I was asked by 3 separate people for anything I could spare. I gave the first guy 5 dollars (he was asking for money to get to Oklahoma and openly told me he had a vehicle and wife and pointed at them who waved at me). The second had no reason why, just said he was out of luck (so I gave him 3 dollars). The third was at Taco Bell and he asked for enough to get a taco (which I gave him enough for). He proceeded to stand right where he was when I drove up and I went inside. I waited for him to come in to get something, but after a minute or two I walked outside to see if he was coming because he hadnt yet. I had just enough time to make him out walking into a house that was behind the building across the parking lot.
You just never know.
lhedn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:01:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work with people with mental illness and she looks like she might not be right in her head. The way she acts and carries herself looks exactly like one of our patients.
Yeah in the clear picture of her face at the beginning she reminds me of someone with mental illness. (I believe it's that kind of 'distant' look from social isolation).
squabbl ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:27:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Panhandlers who aren't homeless looking enough-- THAT'S what's wrong with this country!!
My favorite thing to do as I pass by the 'homeless' people standing by the freeway exits is out on The Offspring's 'Why don't you get a job?', roll down the windows, and maintain eye contact.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:50:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh. I think there's some good that can be done exposing her, so people wouldn't give money to someone who's pretty much faking poverty. But I don't think they needed to confront her so aggressively.
But its a bit different. There are people who need money, and there are people who beg for money, when they dont need it.
A friend of mine used ro volunteer at some food bank who used to give boxes of food ebeey 2 weeks to lower income families, or people etc.....and he said there was this bitchy hasidic jew woman who would come every 2 weeks for the family box. She would show up in her Mercedes and demand a box because she claimed to be poor. People are just shit somtimes.
Sure, the example you gave sounds like someone being terrible. Although, she could have become poor and still had the car from before.
Either way, most people don't know the backstory behind why someone is begging. And it's not like we're talking huge sums of money here. Nor are there many people out there doing this. It just seems like such a pretentious thing to get upset about.
If someone wants to be upset about people taking advantage of others then go birddog the CEOs and stockbrokers who skirt the system, cheating people billions of dollars through tax shelters, bullshit loopholes, or just straight up corruption.
If someone wants to be upset about people taking advantage of others then go birddog the CEOs and stockbrokers who skirt the system, cheating people billions of dollars through tax shelters, bullshit loopholes, or just straight up corruption.
I see it the exact same way. Pretty sure "fake" homeless people have a nearly negligible impact on society compared to the white collar criminals you listed.
That's the thing I can't believe. It's ridiculous how hyped up people are over this one lady. Something tells me they like seeing "bad" people punished more than they care about the dollar someone gave her. What a dumb thing to be concerned about in the big scheme of things.
Because there are people who actually need help, and then there are people who are taking advantage of generosity. Generosity that cannot be given to someone who might actually need it.
Voixoff ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:54:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amazon, Google, Apple, Nike, and other big ass companies make millions by evading taxes and underpaid labor, sometimes children slave labor. The US goverment is selling weapons to dictatures. So are other big nations.
But hey, let's give crap to the local cookie lady who begs for change on the parking. That's the priority.
Fuck this guy. She's not stealing money. She may not be homeless but who is he to determine at what level panhandling is appropriate. Like you have to be this destitute. She's already lowering herself to that act of panhandling, it's not like she's getting joy out of it, why make it worse and get in her face.
And for all the "stealing" from people, it's not stealing if they're freely giving it. I didn't see what the sign read but I'm not going to make any assumptions about claims to be homeless on it, either. She's got an angle, if it works for her, let her be. Of all offenses to society at large, asking people for change isn't exactly all time top 10.
What he's doing, shoving a camera in her face and posting it on the internet for others to presumptuously judge, is 10x less civil and upstanding than what she's doing. Fuck that guy.
She's pretty annoying, but I don't understand these guys' fascination with her.
She's begging for money. Ok. She either had enough money already or got enough money begging to buy a car. Ok. What's the problem here? We don't know anything about her. Maybe she does the whole /r/vandwellers thing and sleeps in that car. Maybe she's got a home she drives back to every day. I don't know, they don't know, who cares.
Let's all put the pitchforks down for a minute... people can have cars- even nice ones and still be in need. We don't know the whole story. Maybe the car was paid off before she found herself in this situation. I'm more irritated by the camera man than by her "What's your disability?" Seriously? That's as bad as assuming that just because someone isn't in a wheel chair then they don't really need a handicap parking sticker.
If this gets buried, so be it. But these guys are jerks. Plain and simple.
This equals going up to someone parking in a disabled parking lot and appearing to be fine and attacking them for it without knowing the full truth. I have worked with the homeless in Dallas and Fort Worth and some have gone there due to alcoholism, dependence on drugs, mental illness. Some looked like you would when you first Google Homeless, some look like you and me.
Some have a shopping cart with grocery bags tied to the side, some have really nice cars and are soon going to lose that nice car.
Picture a woman beaten by her rich hubby every day, treated like garbage who has had enough. Scared out of her mind, gets in the car he finances or maybe luckily outright bought for her. She doesnโt know where to go, family and friends may be in short supply. Maybe she is afraid he will track her down.
She gives in to her dignity and panhandles. Every day in despair wondering how she got here, what she is going to do next.
And two asshats spend their time harassing her and putting her on social media high fiving themselves for EXPOSING THIS FRAUD.
She goes to the McDonalds hoping to get someone to help because lets face it, when terrified and alone with two or more guys hounding you, itโs scary. They are ASKING WHERE DOES SHE LIVE. Are you kidding me?!
โI have a disability!โ Maybe thatโs true. Maybe not. Maybe she is on drugs and needs a fix, maybe not. Maybe she is a worthless person who has a nice car and a nice home and is panhandling because she wants to take advantage of good peopleโs generosity. Which one of these situations seem more likely.
Is it that hard to spend time erring on the side of compassion? Is it that hard to use this time to say, hey, may I speak to you for a moment? What can I do to help, it worries me to see you out here begging for money and I am curious of your situation because you seem to be more well off than you make appear? Is this a recent event you losing your home? How can I help.
But no. Let me get this viral cause thatโs what is more important. (Hell, the first thing he says is this video is viral.)
There is a worthless idiot taking advantage of peopleโs emotions in this video. Itโs not the woman.
She has a late-model vehicle and is panhandling. She has a sign saying homeless but admits she is not.
Anyone in a true need situation would get rid of her car, live in it, etc. She's taking advantage of the charity and gullibility of other people. You're trying to debate something where the chances of any of the outcomes you're defending her for is slim to none.
[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 18:20:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One thing I know...if she is at the point where she is begging for money, my guess is she is not in a great situation. I don't really think you can hate on her more than any other beggar. The notion that begging is OK if you are homeless and not OK if you drive a car/have a place to sleep is ridiculous.
I guess what I am trying to say is...this guy should come to NYC and do the same thing for every homeless person sitting there begging for money with a bottle of whiskey in their hand. What she is doing is no better or worse than what they are doing.
This shouldn't surprise people. I live in San Francisco, where there are thousands of homeless - most are good people just down on their luck, or in many cases, mentally ill. But there are scammers. There was one guy who worked the Financial District - he was clean and well dressed, friendly and outgoing. His story was that he had just gotten here - his wallet was stolen, his job started in a couple of days, etc.
I almost never give to panhandlers, but he was so charming and convincing that I gave him $5, IIRC. Found out later that he had been doing this scam for a couple of years.
And there are 'homeless' people who aren't homeless - just trying to get money to feed their habits - usually drugs.
F*** ppl like her shame they don't have any self pride
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:26:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have mixed feelings about this. Yes, there are likely many other people like her who are panhandling when they have a house and such. Apparently my hometown has an underground business of sorts, where people have shifts at certain places. But this video going viral would just take away money from people who actually need it.
I was talking to the wait staff at a bar in Ann Arbor one day, and somehow we started talking about one of the local panhandlers. They said they followed him home one night, and found that he was living in a very upscale apartment (well above the pay grade of said wait staff!). I know it's sort of a "friend of a friend" story, but thought it was interesting enough to be worth sharing. That guy is a friendly panhandler at least from what I remember. He's entertaining and doesn't harass people (like a lot of them do). But it still seems like a shitty thing to do when you're not actually poor.
The interesting thing to me was that he seemed to be borderline wealthy, not just not poor. I feel like if I were in a situation where I needed to panhandle, and I was taking in more than I needed, I would set the extra aside until I was able to get myself out of the situation, rather than making it a lifestyle and buying luxuries. I suppose it would be interesting to get an honest explanation from the guy.
Just because you have a car doesn't mean you're not homeless or don't need financial help. Obviously this woman could have some mental disability or be lying. Without knowing this woman I would have tried to follow her to see where she went (if she had a house), and try to find out her name and some more information before confronting her. Threatening to kill someone, however, is inexcusable whether you have a disability or not.
Okay, if someone who is financially stable is taking charity from people who actually need it, thats obviously shitty, but is anyone else really uncomfortable with how low we're setting the bar for proof?
We really don't know the full situation - not necessarily with this woman, but with anyone you see on the street. Not every homeless person mumbles unintelligibly and lives out of a shopping cart. Most are just average people who hit a string of bad luck.
People in this thread are acting like this is proof that homeless people don't deserve to be helped. It sort of feels like people just want to justify their apathy towards poverty.
I'm not saying this to try and guilt anyone into giving money - poverty and begging are serious issues that are largely the result of systemic problems - but this idea that homeless people are gross jerks who probably deserve their misfortune just really upsets me.
Anyway, sorry for the rant. I just get really uncomfortable seeing how casually people demonize the homeless in our culture.
umm isnt this witch-hunting material? I understand the want to call out this bitch out for shit behavior but this video shows us the city in which she begs and her number plate, can someone correct me?
Okay, so, I watched the video and have read some comments, and am of the opinion that she really is fake.
However, I want to just point out, based on the apparent premise of the recorder, nice car does not necessarily equal not homeless. 2014 is 3 years ago. A lot can happen in 3 years. It's entirely possible she had bought that car new, then lost her job, or got a divorce or something and lost her home, but the car was already paid off. At that point, it wouldn't be real practical to sell the car at a loss, only to have to buy another car, even if it is a lower-priced car. Unlikely, but not unheard of.
It appears this woman is mentally ill to some degree. People shouldn't panhandle if they don't need it. It seems like she doesn't need to but the truth is we don't know the full story. The guy talking had a voice and superior attitude that makes me want to punch him. End of the day I don't like anyone in this vid except the workers. They're just trying to to their job and they have to deal with these two idiots. I believe in karma. If she's scamming she'll get hers someday. And dude, you don't have to give her anything so why do you care so damn much about panhandling transactions between consenting adults. If you choose to give you should give without ever having any expectation of getting anything back or of judging what that money will be used for. If you don't want to give them don't give. The hubris of the voice guy was irritating. He's excited because he feels he just won the likes/upvotes lottery. Pride goeth before the fall dumbass.
There's folks outraged in here, but why? She wasn't imposing on anyone's "turf". She may or may not be in need (I don't know her finances). She may have at one point been homeless and just can't quit!
In Oklahoma City for example, there's daily ones (aka the folks who seemingly are always at the same spot). There's panhandlers who are doing it to get the homeless off the streets. There's the traditional "These kids need to go on vacation!" type. And my favorite...firefighters with boots! Yep, our firefighters wanna drum up money for charities.
My only issue with this is that it's non-taxed, OR, it requires self-regulation. We all know though that unless she's a "special one", she's not going to report these earnings. I dislike that. Outside of that....it's on you as a person to give anybody money. I give them food from my car. You can tell on their faces the ones who really want the food...and the ones who don't want no stinkin' food!
Dude should have followed her in his vehicle to wherever she resides. If she drives her fiat and parks it underneath an overpass right next to her two-person tent then I'd let it slide but if she pulls it into a driveway to a house with a white-picket fence, the vids are going viral.
I work with many homeless people in Europe and there are cases of people being exploited and forced to beg and collect a daily sum or risk getting hurt. That's in a context of human trafficking and organized crime. They do it because they or their families are extorted and they feel the authorities can't help them (lots of stigma).
Anyhow, I never ever ever ever saw something like this happen. Don't know what her deal is.
Key message: don't forget that every homeless person has a first name and a story that goes with it. Please don't generalize based on viral videos. Cheers.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yet if she put on a bad knock-off Cookie Monster costume and stood in Times Square doing the same thing, she'd be legitimate.
I live in Cleveland, and we see a LOT of these folk. Normally, they are actually homeless and I occasionally talk to a few of them (Cleveland is largely homeless) and buy them juice or hand em a cigarette. Really good people. Just had some ups and downs in life.
Women like the woman shown in this video are ever increasing. What it's over?
If you think itโs a big deal that this woman can pretend to be broke when she isnโt, you ought to turn that camera right back on the McDonaldโs drive-thru legal support and ask her about their milkshake machine.
Youโll see theyโre two peas in a pod, I guarunfuckingtee it.
I swear people like this make me sick. How r u gonna own a damn Fiat 500, park at McDonalds and then beg for peoples hard earned money? Even if she has a disability that doesn't mean she should lie about being HOMELESS! If she can afford a damn foreign car she can afford rent.
That woman freaked out so bad. Your disability is being a terrible liar.
Jenodd1 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just scrolled most comments. I've seen no sympathy from anybody, and not one question posed about what can't be seen. The closest was "I wonder if the disability is mental." It's sad, because usually I find the reddit community seems open about having conversations about mental health. What changed in this video versus other posts? Is it because she looks like an able bodied woman? There's so much more to this picture. Even if it doesn't fit your perfect narrative of a person who needs help, this woman needs help. I don't quite understand how a couple of somewhat aggressive people with a cell phone cam confronting somebody is an act of heroism. What are you saving us all from? Accidentally giving somebody $2? Things like this just make the millions of people second guess lending people a helping hand. Even you. Next time you see somebody who needs help, you'll think... I WONDER IF IT'S ONE OF THOSE SHEISTY IMPERFECT PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP, NO WAY. It's not worth sharing, it's not an act of heroism, it's divisive and sad. I'm sad for them and I'm sad for her. We're all imperfect people who need help. It looks different for everybody.
Madhy_A ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:37:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bro her voice makes me cringe I would punch her so hard that she will lose her "disability"
Im confused as a person who has been homeless multiple times but always took care of their appearance and still had a car. I didn't panhandle because I have crippling anxiety and refuse to seek help generally when needed. I'm also psychologically 'disabled' and I can't manage hold a job longer than six to twelve months, haven't my entire life, I should be on disability but I'm afraid to go through the process and often give up because I'm not worth it anyway, etc.
Panhandlers exist for all sorts of reasons and plenty of them lie to get the highest dollar amount to get by, but all the reasons people are saying she's a lying scumbag don't make her not homeless or in need of help.
I think it's pretty obvious this lady shouldn't have been asking for money, but it's also not okay to operate on the pretense that a nice object doesn't mean they're homeless or struggling or disabled. It's the same argument you hear from older people about food stamps and iPhones: "You have a new iPhone so you must not really be poor." Being poor, being homeless, having a disability takes many forms. That might be a friends car she's (supposed) to be using to look for a job. That might be her parents car. She might have been given a phone by an outreach center to look for jobs.
I think this video was a little bit of revenge porn and people are getting off on the idea that they've confronted a fake homeless person. In fact I think most of the Reddit and Youtube comments reflect that. When the truth is she never even gets inside that car. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN BE HER CAR. I think confronting her for an explanation and an offer to help might have been INFINITELY better for the universe. This was just more satisfying. You can even tell the way he's bragging "this is gonna go viral!"
We're all on a ladder, and the people on the top rungs want you to kick down.
That's the mentality this video plays into. Forget being compassionate, be suspicious! Don't think about helping, you're being ripped off! That's it, fight amongst each other and remember it's the poor people that are taking advantage of everybody else.
Who fucking cares? I don't know which is more detrimental to society, some lady begging for change while pretending to be homeless, or two guys that feel the need to film her for the gotchya!
And the lady is right, if she has a disability, it's none of their damn business what it is.
You want to effect the begging for money situation, convince people not to give people money on the side of the street. You don't try to go viral.
I'm sure this will be a relatively viral video because people love it when others get their comeuppance, but everyone involved with this thing is just sad.
Can you explain your motivation? I've seen a lot of comments like yours, and I don't understand the thought process behind them.
"It's the fault of people giving money to pandhandlers. Pandhandlers themselves are doing nothing wrong".
"Never tell someone they don't have a disability. She may very well have one, which makes it alright".
"The guy is just salty that he's not getting in on the clever action. This woman is smart and deserves her money".
I'm paraphrasing, but I've seen a dozen comments like these so far.
Alkenes ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 18:21:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In regards to the first paraphrase. If I give someone on the side of the road money I understand that they may not be in need. If you can't accept that possibility then just don't give people your money, or give it to shelters instead. There's no need to harass people because they're faking, it just makes the world a more hostile place.
Voixoff ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 18:08:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're trying to shame her so she'll stop and other people like her won't do it. The sign said "Homeless" on it and she said she had a disability. Yet she's standing outside for hours and running up and down the sidewalk. Sounds like more work than my current job. There are actually people that are homeless and I would like it if people didn't pose as them. Even if they did it for the gotchya, it still will probably stop her and maybe others for fear of being publicly shamed
I don't know which is more detrimental to society, some lady begging for change while pretending to be homeless, or two guys that feel the need to film her for the gotchya!
It's the guys who film her for the gotchya. Honestly, I think it's really pathetic and petty-minded.
[deleted] ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 18:33:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost as petty-minded as begging for change while her car is nicer than mine. I do tree work for a living and useless human beings like this make me angry. Disability my ass.
Are investigative journalist petty-minded as well?
Thank you for speaking up. Everyone is so interested in what other people are doing. It doesnt matter if you think its wrong, its up to the individuals who are willing to give money to do the research on who they are giving money to.
Not some jack wagons trying to make a buck off of a viral video, or even trying to be social justice warriors. Get over yourselves, you're not doing anyone a justice.
This woman is obviously full of shit, but they didn't have more evidence against her other than her having a newer car? That in and of itself doesn't mean you can't be homeless.
When I lived in Charlotte riding the bus. Every day about every other black guy on the street would say "gimme a dollar " . I was like wtf is this for ?
I used to live in a city drowning in mental illness and homelessness.
The story from the new panhandlers was that they were being shipped there, from other cities and states, by police officers who were tired of arresting them.
It was a common enough story, and believable due to the Greyhound station downtown never lacked new faces. I had the fortune to work with the public, so most of the friendly strangers were good for the odd smoke or bit of change, until they eventually disappeared.
The only regulars we had were locals from the three different assisted living facilities in the area. Prestera was a huge provider in the area, with clients out numbering staff even during high tides of hiring.
The new people though, they would come through and pass quickly on to the next place they landed.
I can respect the nomadic lifestyle, but settling is part of human nature. No wonder so many crack around the edges after years with no village.
That lady, and others like her, deserve to be shamed. It's bad enough being homeless as is, without this shit.
Honestly why I give homeless food or water. I don't want you to suffer, but I don't want my cash being spent on stupid shit youre addicted to or for you to exploit my kindness or anybody elses.
vactu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I lived in Bellingham twelve years ago I worked on Meridian. And at the exit and entrance to the main highway there by the mall there would always be like four random homeless people. They made a killing. Mostly cos Bham peeps are nice and also the Canadians were generous. Anyways after about a year of working and living there I heard that those people all resided together in a house and pooled their money. I recall I never gave them money but back in the day us Petsmart employees would get one bag of dog food a pay period and I always gave mine to the homeless dude w a dog.
hey401 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kaeloso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like following the pan handlers where I live. I had a guy in dicks parking lot ask for help and I told them theres an autozone around the corner. As soon as I went in dicks and explained what happened they got their manager out there to yell at them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of something you might see on those reality shows about really cheap people...this woman just panhandles for all of her meal money
These was this lady who would beg at a stoplight every day when I went to work. She would sob and act panicked. Some days she would have a fake pregnant belly and others she wouldn't. It was a shame to see the lies. Some days I noticed her giving the money to a guy. Seemed like he was working some sort of business.
Even if they made a couple hundred a day (which can't be 365 anyway), that's still a pretty shitty job and wage. Why would I pan handle for $40-50K/year with no future when I could just get a job that easily pays the same and can move forward in life? What an awful life decision and waste of a life.
People like this is why I'm skeptical about handing out change. While growing up in my city, I knew of kids who would go "homeless" for the summer but once the cold weather would come, they'd go back to their parents nice home in the burbs.
While I will admit she is a total pile of steaming shit, she's not dressed like a homeless person in her clean yoga atire, and people should be smarter than that to even give money to her in the first place.
raver6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why in God's name does she keep harassing the McDonald's employees?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone I know from work was recently seen begging on a town about 15 miles away. He got asked about it and said how much money he made was ridiculous.
I once got taken by a professional panhandler who was famous in Seattle. I told my friend the story like "Yeah it was this old lady saying she ran out of gas..."
She then asked me clarifying questions about her and told me "yeah, no, that lady has a nice home and the news exposed her already".
I totally understand that this could be a mental disability as well, but this just seems a little too fishy to me.
Years ago, I was living in the Milwaukee area. I had a regular who proudly came in all the time and bragged that he regularly drove to Chicago and begged on street corners for money. The man drove a Cadillac. I banned him from the restaurant after he conned one of my servers out of a bunch of money (don't remember how much but it was enough).
There's like an army of fake homeless people in my city who beg day in and day out at the same intersections and then they'll all get together and walk off to a distant parking lot and leave to go to their homes and whatnot.
The problem is that not every person there is a part of that group so it's hard to tell if it's the group or actual homeless people.
The damage this woman does to homeless people is two pronged: She takes extra cash someone might have given to the next panhandler they saw, AND she makes people less trusting of panhandlers and therefore less likely to give.
She sucks
clwu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My rule for homeless, If they have fully functioning arms and legs, don't EVER give them money.
Sorry I didn't watch the whole video, but just because she has a car doesn't mean she isn't in need. She could be behind on payments house in foreclosure etc. Shit she could be sleeping in said car.
She could sell her (supposed) 2014 Fiat worth about 10k for a clunker for 3k and rent a nice place, clean up (which she visually looks fine), and get a day job to pay whatever bills she needs paid. If she truly has a disability then there are services you can turn to. Felons can still get jobs (Not easily). What this is is a woman that took an easy way out and has no sense of pride.
Oh my god. This woman posts up like a block over from where I've work. I've actually given her money coming back from lunch before. Can't believe I'm finding out like this...
EDIT: She even drives a nicer car than I do. I feel so stupid.
What's worse, someone who isn't homeless but pretends to be in order to get free money or a person who is willing to spend time and effort to out a fake homeless person when they could have spent their time and effort helping actual homeless people?
Frankly, the latter is worse to me.
Jloch98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I'm always skeptical of people that beg for money. For all you know they could be rich and you would have no idea.
Downtown St Pete is rampant with bums. My boyfriend brings ones with him so he can give them out and we will be left alone. I think it's ridiculous, Id rather ignore them. I have no sympathy for beggars, there are wayyyyyy too many resources to keep that from being necessary.
Most of the people that do this aren't actually in need. They just want money and know people will give it to them. You will be surprised how much these people make.
This is infuriating. It happens so much in my country and I can't help anyone, not even old people, because of this. They sometimes have big scale scams where "babysitters" send several kids to beg on the streets unbeknownst to their hard working lower midclass parents. Now I only give to firefighters (they don't get funded here) bc I can guarantee they will put it to good use.
Revircs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a person in AZ doing this same shit with a sign saying "Help me bury my son". People started calling him out after he was out there everyday for 4 months instead of getting a job. Once people stopped giving him money, he just moved to the other side of town.
rumster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good work! I have two stories on homeless people in Chicago. One I helped a man get food and transportation to the hospital after noticing a huge leg fracture he was just walking on. The man almost lost his leg. Second and bad story was a woman who faked being homeless such as this and I caught her getting in her Lincoln town car.
I give money to the homeless but I notice minor things to see if they are legit.
Shoes (if they are crappier than mine)
Teeth ( usually brownish)
Shaved/Hair (I noticed homeless men usually don't have a damn shaver laying around)
Airilin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously? People give this lady money? She looks like the least homeless person on earth
Excuse me Ms. Drive-thru attendant; please arrest these 2 for bothering me. Cuff 'em with onion rings; oh rats that's right you don't serve onion rings.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is one reason why I don't give to homeless people.
Here around Santa Barbara, I've had almost entirely good experiences with the homeless. There's even a famous one called Pirate (Raymon Lucero), who tells great stories. He finally got sober around a year ago and is maintaining a job now. I really hope he keeps it up.
There was a guy who had a great story about having newborn children and assuring people that he did not need money he only needed diapers for his kidsโฆ Very sympathetic, seemingly no way it could be a scamโฆ He would go to the ghetto and sell diapers for a dollar each out of the package. Quite the little hustle.
In my town, there's a lady that panhandles who's been pregnant for two years. It's obviously a scam but she's out there all the time with a basketball up her shirt.
This is much more common than many think. Donate to a real charity who helps the homeless rather than give money to anyone who is homeless. Or give them food.
I always am torn when I watch videos like this. On one hand, I hate the pieces of shit who take advantage of people's generosity, and l get a justice boner when they're exposed. On the other, I worry that these videos will reduce the already limited amount of help given to people in dire need.
funny thing is we have a kid (well 19 i think) who does this by the mall.he got posted all over our local fb for sale groups for doing this.even got recorded by police telling him he cant do this anymore after people provided pics he wasnt homeless and of his car
I've heard stories of "fake homeless people" begging for money and becoming well to-do my entire life. It's manufactured. To the extent that it happens it's rare, and if anyone has actually become "well to-do" as a result it is one in a literal million.
Last year on my birthday I was having a good day. Was gassing up my car and a girl approached me asking for money and said car broke down, etc....I didn't really trust her but I was happy and I gave her 20 bucks, I didn't need it. One week later, 2 miles down (at another gas station) she approaches me. Doesn't even remember me. I pretty much stated "oh so you're a liar?' and she was like 'what?' and I said "ummm you did this to me on my birthday last week" and she responded with "oh..." and she walked away from that gas station, immediately. Fool me once, well...you know the saying.
Tbh though, has anyone thought about doing this? Like having a job where you make a good living, say 80-100k salary, but on the weekends just pretending your homeless. I've thought about buying a super nice suit, like $2000-$3000, and being completely decked out in diamonds and gold jewelry, just the absolute image of materialistic wealth (maybe add a gold apple watch and super expensive yeezy shoes), and begging for money to see what people's reaction would be. I am actually so curious what people would do and I would probably laugh my ass off if someone asked me for money. First recorded incident of a pedestrian asking a homeless man for money/help.
The mere fact she thought she could motivate some random bystanders to her cause as a fake-homeless person preying on the generosity of others makes me wonder if she does have some serious mental issues (not a disability obviously, she observably high functioning, just evil).
She could have NPD (narcissistic personality disorder):
Symptoms include an excessive need for admiration, disregard for others' feelings, an inability to handle any criticism, and a sense of entitlement.
This is yet another reason to not give money to the beggars on every street corner. There are usually state programs that will give then food and a roof to sleep under as long as they aren't drunk or high when they show up.
These people on the corner want to get drunk and do drugs that they cannot afford. Either that or they are con artists. Don't feed their downward spiral and enable their lifestyle. It's pointless to help someone that refuses to help themselves.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can be homeless and still have a car, but her car's a bit tooo nice lol
Sadly I think most people begging on the side of the road are full of it, so I never give out money. I've seen the same girl in front of South Station in Boston for 14 years with a sign begging for money to get a bus home.
I volunteered in college for a homeless advocacy group, the 1st thing I learned was that most homeless people are not on the street or unemployed, but underemployed and living with friends or family. They just cannot make enough money to stand on their own. Unfortunately the public thinks of homeless people as the beggars and are reluctant to help the cause due to this misrepresentation of the situation. The people you see on the streets are addicts and drunks.
JZN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These scavengers are everywhere. Shame on the people who give them money. Its clear they aren't homeless. Clean, new clothes and shoes, nothing amongst them they would need in order to survive such as a sleeping bag or personal necessities. Nope, just time and a freshly made cardboard lie about being homeless.
I saw one at the mouth of a Walmart parking lot wearing fucking glitter. Literally did the Saturday morning cock walk of shame to panhandle in club clothes.
Don't fall for it.
*edit. Tough to find one of these needy scumbags when its raining out. Odd, wouldn't you say?
I never give panhandling people money. If someone is begging outside of a fast food place I'd give them some food or water, never money. That's how you tell the difference between actually desperate people and the fakers.
I had this happen in Deep Ellum in Dallas in the late 90's. A "homeless" guy was harassing me for money, which I didn't have, got loud and very aggressive. Later as I was leaving, I see him getting into a brand new Explorer. That was the end of me ever giving money to a beggar again.
I thought, "wow this happens in Richmond VA all the time" video starts playing, says it's in Richmond Va. yup. Don't be too surprised this literally happens all the time here. Especially up near VCU with the high flow of people. These shameless people beg full time students who are trying to do things with their lives.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homeless or not, if somebody is desperate enough to beg they clearly need help. Whether or not thats money or a psychiatrist, i don't know, but acting like shes stolen valor or some shit is a bit much.
To anybody driving from LA to the BAY, do NOT give money to the poor old ladies whose car "broke down" in the small town along the 5. They are doing this exact same shit, except they're getting people who are just stopping through town for gas so people wont call them out.
I've given gift cards to cheap fast food places, like McDonalds or Taco Bell, and that's been pretty well received. A $10 gift card to one of those places can buy a few meals, if they're strategic. I hope it was helpful :/, but that was the best compromise I could find between wanting to help and making sure I didn't get taken advantage of/have food angrily thrown back in my face.
Ha! There's a lady that does (did?) this in Midland, TX who has one leg and wears a sign that says "On My Last Leg." She made a killing before being videotaped getting into her brand new Infiniti SUV in the Wal-Mart parking lot. Not sure if she's still down there or not.
remlik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The worst part for me is having to try and explain this to my bleeding heart 11 year old daughter. She would give you her shoes if you asked and looked like you needed it. Yes there are people who need help, and we should help them, but not everyone does. How do you tell the difference? I said the best way to help is to either volunteer time at homeless shelters and soup kitchens or to work on clothing/food drives through the church or other local organizations who help make sure the needy actually get the help they need.
HyJedi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahahah how did she not know that poor and homeless people can't borrow cars from people or have cars purchased for them?!? Duh. If you're poor you should be naked and only weigh 60 lbs. Anything more and you're just a filthy moocher.
Hit__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly....people are stupid to give those who beg for money instead of earning it. So I blame the people. You can donate to homeless shelters if you'd really like to help
In downtown Chicago I once noticed a group of three people (2 guys, 1 woman) talking in hushed tones looking like they were casing the corner. They looked out of place which caught my attention. The next week I saw the same woman sitting on the same corner with her legs straight out onto the sidewalk pretending to be disabled literally screaming about how she needed help (money). Thankfully (?) everyone I saw ignored her. I was tempted to step on her and give her something to really yell about.
In a world of selfjustice i would have smacked the hell out of that woman the moment she said someone is gonna kill you. Trying to threaten this guys life subliminally because they're exposing your shady "business".
I know it's messed up, but there is something seriously wrong with a person like her feeling so safe to do whatever she wants without any sort of repercussion.
I don't think people realize that begging for change is a hard job. You have to stand there for HOURS and be bored, all day, dealing with people that want nothing to do with you.
Dunno, it sounds pretty shitty to me. I wouldn't do it.
There are ladies in the Bay Area that panhandle with small infants, either on the train or on the street. I have heard that the kids aren't even theirs, and that they might be being paid as nannies, then they take the kid like a prop out in public to earn even more. I have to stop myself from calling CPS every time because I don't want to be that guy...
I saw a guy at my local intersection with a sign that said "Will work for Food."
I didn't know that it was a scam. I pulled over, thinking I could use a lot of work done on my small farmette and even could pay money besides a good lunch, and I walked back to the guy offering a job. The guy was totally offended about the work offer and kind of aggressively wanted just money. He never intended to want to work. "F**k you man" was all I heard as I walked away.
I've seen a shift change of sorts at an intersection. Looked super organized and pre-arranged with a third guy organizing it. There was even a little handoff to the guy.
Only in the US will you find people who beg for money. And ironically enough, when you see Hispanic folk on the freeway exits (compared to white folk), they're actually selling something instead begging for money.
People call Hispanics lazy? But they're always working. Even in Mexico. It's rare to see a phenomenon like begging for money, unless you're handicapped in a physical or mental way, over there. People will work for money, but never beg for money.
This video is a prime example of the perfect irony with Americans constantly calling Hispanics lazy.
Same bs in Missouri. Had people multiple times ask me for gas money, I always offer to take them to the gas station and buy them gas. Been told "don't worry about it man, I 'll go ask this other guy" and then they leave to go bother someone else.
Only ONE time has someone actually taken me up on this and guess what, he got free has. Not sure if he really needed the gas, but I'd rather that then give my money away.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I ran into a lot of this bullshit in Bakersfield and in the end, it helped me decide to never give handouts of any kind, to anyone, ever again.
I remember this guy coming up to me, saying he needed money for a prescription for his medication. His foot was all fucked up and full of pus, just nasty.
There was a Walgreens literally a block away. I told him I wouldn't give him money, but I'd walk with him to Walgreens and pay for his script.
He refused, instead demanding money. I told him to go get fucked.
Either give her money or don't. That should be the end of it. If she isn't being aggressive I don't see how it's hurting anyone.
Lying? People lie all the time, especially in sales. These guys are jerks. They have nothing better to do than harass her for a video to post on their YouTube channel.
I don't know what her issue is. Maybe she is a piece of shit, I don't know. I do know that you can't tell what someone's story is just by looking at them.
LPT - Almost EVERY person you see begging like this is not homeless. Time and again I've offered people who have signs saying "no food" breakfast. They either refuse or take it and throw it away. They can make more money standing there than doing real work. I don't give anyone money or food anymore.
I've carefully assessed, and analyzed this video only to come to conclusion that this woman is in fact homeless and mentally abused. It's disgusting that the majority of people here think that this woman truly is faking her situation, proving to me that people who upboat this video are shameless sexists. This isn't how you treat a lady, or a homeless person. If the roles were reversed, the hypothetical male would be left alone.
If continue to perpetuate disinformation, then I will have to get The YouTube Admins.
Name Redacted, Feminist, Promoter of Equality, Love, and Peace.๏ปฟ
Oh shit, you're right. I mean, I didn't know until I looked at "her" videos, and the first one is obvious satire IMO. The comment could have gone either way though. Eh, i'll edit my comment
drmchan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wild "homeless" lady flees from her main means of escape. she chooses the fight option by finding her local mcdonald's employees to defend her
get a sign to stand next to her all day. "she drives (insert car yr/make/model/license) and is begging for your cash". she either tries to find a new spot, so you follow and use the same sign. she may get violent, or she calls the police. either one of those 2 and now she has to explain to authorities why she is lying to get money(from the video she doesn't seem to want to call the cops). Let the scum rot while you inform those around she is lying.
Imak312 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not only could she not defend herself, but also threatened those guys.
DrTots- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From what I can tell, Most of the actual homeless people don't even bother to beg, theirs plenty of shelters and programs to help them.
iBu11et ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They have doors to the McDs. You don't have to walk up to the drive through. You can make an even bigger scene inside the restaurant. Maybe there's even an ACLU attorney in there eating his McNuggets.
Diodon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(WHY IS THIS PERSON ASKING ME FOR CONFLICT RESOLUTION THIS IS A HAMBURGER RESTAURANT I'M JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE)
0311 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You don't bark around me!"
I love the things people say when they're flustered.
not shocked that she tried to get the McDonald staff to handle it
Bmandk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet you in a few days or something, her "real story" is going to be leaked, and she "actually has a disability". A donation fund is started for her, and she (they) make a ton of money.
bri111e ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People like this are the reason so many of us hesitate to give to panhandlers. In general it's more effective to donate to well vetted charities, but what if I do have spare change in my pocket? What if it really would help out some dude who's starving or looking for a bus ride? Because of people like this I (along with many others) will always have doubts, and guess who suffers? The people actually needing help. Fuck this woman and everyone that does this. Every opportunity should be afforded to publicly shame these people, and if possible, prosecute them for fraud. Maybe some mandatory service at a homeless shelter would be a suitable punishment.
It's because of these disgusting people become so sceptical of giving money to homeless people, to the point where they don't give any at all. She's fucking scum.
In most cities panhandling is legal, though you often have to get a permit for it.
Also, in most cities, fraud is defined as false representations for personal gain... So if she is making money by holding a sign saying she is homeless, and she isn't homeless, then she is likely breaking the law on top of making things harder for actual homeless people.
I'm also curious if she is reporting all of that money on her taxes and as income against her disability payments.
Why do people still give money to panhandlers? Just fucking stop and these people will slowly disappear.
Kvmabis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Working at a live monitoring company I see fake homeless people all the time, fake injured panhandlers, fake wheelchair bound people. Some have cellphones and tablets asking for money. I feel bad but after this job I don't give homeless money. Living in my area everyone you're a gas station you'll get a creative story about how they need a dollar for a number of things. I just stopped giving people money.
mega512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even like asking my parents for $20 let alone begging on the streets to strangers. Have some self respect.
That's fucked up, I usually tell people that I will buy them some food or some bottled water. When they tell you that they just need the cash, that is usually a sign that they are full of shit. Not always, but for the most part. I was going to a sandwich shop and there was a guy that came up and asked me for a few bucks because he was starving. I told him I was going to a sandwich shop and if he gave me like 15 minutes I would bring him a hot sandwich and he told me that he would really appreciate it and that's what he was going to use the money for anyways. So after I eat my food I get an extra sandwich and a glass of water and bring it to him and he ate the sandwich so fast that he got almost got choked. When I realized that he was seriously hungry I gave him the rest of the cash in my wallet ( I think it was 23 or 24 dollars) and the guy legit started crying. I remember him telling me that he knows that I won't remember him, but he will never forget me. I think about this guy constantly and wonder how he is doing today. I don't think anyone should have to go hungry. The fact that this woman is doing this bullshit makes me realize how many people out there could really use the money.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom actually keeps a stack of gift cards with her for homeless people. They have $5 max on them, you should see some of the responses the homeless give when they get them.
just to keep everyone grounded in reality, real homeless people do exist and don't always look as homeless as they are. I felt terrible the other day because someone asked me for spare change and i didn't have any or offer any bills and immediately after i crossed the street i saw him start eating out of the trash.
I was expecting this to be the homeless lady I encountered once. I pulled up to a stop light and decided to give her some food. She comes to my door and I say, "hey I don't have any money but I can give you this chick-fil-a sandwich" and she declined. She said "no thanks, I already ate. I have sandwich meat at home. But thank you." It was petty bizarre.
What blows my mind is that she asks a McDonald's worker for help. Ya know, someone working for (probably) minimum wage and (probably) driving a junker.
Although, I agree that we should definitely expose people who "fake" being homeless, but just because someone has a car does not mean that they are not homeless. Some people live in their cars.
ThatFag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's fucking baffling me is the fact that she's going to absolutely random fucking people and complaining about being "harassed" by them? Like, what the fuck are they supposed to do? What can they do that she herself can't? That whole thing was just fucking confusing.
All the fakers always hope for a white knight, reminds me of emily from r/2007scape except she faked cancer for money...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seen more than one panhandler in Austin TX get into a nice car parked nearby after their "shift" was over.
They also hold signs saying things like they can't find roofing work because of the wet weather etc, but see the same guy out there 6 months later in good weather. See the same ones out there 2 years later.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a guy walk up to my car while I was in line at a fast food restaurant. He was holding a folded McDonald's bag and told me that the lady in front of my had been nice enough to give him money for a couple burgers and could i spare some change for a drink and a dessert.
I said sure and thinking I was doing my good deed for the day I gave him 5 bucks. he took it without a word and walked off, not towards the door to the restaurant, but towards the damn liquor store behind it. I saw him in my rear view mirror throw the bag he was holding in the trash.
I had half a mind to go after him, then I realized that it was me who had been foolish. Lesson Learned.
Homeless or not, I'm not sure that giving cash to people actually helps them.it seems to simply extend their current situation.
I'm sure there are exceptions, but it seems that most homeless end up that way because they can't handle the resources they had and need more than a hand out to get back on top of the basic skills for keeping a job, managing money, and kicking a substance abuse issue or getting meds/treatment for mental illness.
Giving money to homeless seems to only help those that give assuage their guilt.
I worked downtown in Halifax, Canada, and there's quite a few "homeless" on the main drag. I'd walk to get a coffee every morning and I'd get asked by 5 people for change.
Anyways, I worked for a local TV/internet provider and one of the girls that was always on the same corner would come in very month and pay her cable bill, which was usually around $200~.
I looked up her address and she lived in a pretty nice neighborhood as well... In the winter time some of them would have Canadian Goose jackets which can range from $300-600.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Why are they doing this? What do they want?" Oh, here's another random McD's employmee fresh from takIng the trash out... "They keep harassing me! What do they want?"
Question! If a woman says, "Someone is going to kill you-" during an altercation like this, can someone legally put her in a headlock until police arrive? I wouldn't be able to stand idle and let someone leave my sight while threatening me or someone else's life. Threats like that can't go unpunished.
Oh the outrage! This woman is not in dire need, yet she is bilking the hardworking citizens of this town out of hundreds of dollars every month!!
Know what I want to see? I want to see a video just like this, but the subject is a multi-bajillionaire that is using offshore accounts and tax loopholes to bilk ALL AMERICANS out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. THOSE are the people that need to be exposed and harassed.
This behaviour is employed across all levels of society lifestyle. Yes she begs change while driving an SUV but this also happens in professionals looking for Nickle and dime when they overinflate their travel expenses and other things.
"I'm indignant so I'm going to act all kinds of confused so I don't have to admit I'm actually a shitty person. Ah yes, I'm going to drag this involved person into it and demand answers from them."
oh good she is gone, now I can take her place, will leave the corvette at home though hehehe
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roasted
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love this soooooooo much. "That's a nice ride."
Instead of just covering her face and getting into the car, she runs around looking for an authority figure that can tell these people off. Strange behavior.
This woman clearly needs help, but not for the reason she's asking.
JAG319 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why does this have 16k upvotes and the video only has 7k views
cebjmb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people make $200/day doing this. Tax free.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who the fuck cares. She not selling something... She is begging for change. If thats what she chooses to do with her life, good for her. She hasnt forced anybody to give her money and there is no law that says you have to live in a box to panhandle. Is it sad... sure. But exactly how has she conned people. If somebody is asking for money on the corner and I feel compelled to give them some of my hard earned cash, I dont ask for a resume in the process.
I used to to live in an apartment complex that was off a service road so everytime I had to leave I would go down the service road to this big intersection that was panhandler central. I guess some people give goodie bags with deodorant, snacks, toothpaste, etc and I saw two of the panhandlers leave and get into a nice newer model Mitsubishi Lancer in the McDonald's parking lot and just left the goodie bags behind.
That is definitely a Fiat 500x. They only started making them in 2014. Even the cheapest ones run for about 15k. This one looks brand new so its more like 20k. This homeless woman has a newer car than I do.
KiloLee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, /u/sk_rva, you went from local hero to front page legend.
This is why I never give money to anyone. I have no problem whatsoever giving money to people in need. But I don't trust any panhandlers anymore. I have no idea which ones are legit. It's really sad that people like her ruin it for those that truly need help.
Fuck all people that beg for money and fuck our government for not giving assistance to people that really fucking need it.
I have started a new thing where I buy cans from the store and fucking throw that shit as hard as possible to vagrants begging that I see gambling at the casino all the time.
We had a woman that would sit out with her small children when the weather started to get nice. I frequented the area for work and she was out with them a lot, just different spots. Never saw her towards the area where the restaurants were. Guess she didn't want people offering to buy them food. Just cash please.
The first and only time I encountered her up close she said one of the things she was too broke to do was get her youngest their next set of immunization shots. My friend happens to do a community out reach program that provides either free or next to nothing cost for these shots. She wasn't interested in my charity. Okay, but if I gave you money that would be all right? Good to know.
If memory serves me right one of the kid's dad's family members recognized them and she was busted that way. She picked an area that was far enough from home that she thought no-one she knew would see her I guess.
Anytime I see someone sitting out with little kids it just makes my heart sink and I wonder how many people use their own kids as props like that lady did.
And she has Maryland tags on her car. She is either driving from Maryland to Richmond to panhandle, or she is avoiding paying Virginia taxes on her car to scam the system even more.
There's a couple that has a 45,000 SUV that ask for money on the side of our freeway.
We don't really have a national conversation about the homeless and what is being done to stop it , so stuff like this continues.
Was an expose' on the Salt Lake news a while back. Buncha people doing that. The were dropped off from a van, and picked up in the evening and were staying in an upscale home..
I had a woman in an suv pull up on the street and ask me for money for gas, she had her 3 young daughters in the car with her... I obviously gave her the few dollars i had. But i have a suspicion she just drives around nice areas of town scamming well dressed white guys... her spiel was to well practiced
I have a suspicion of a homeless group that I pass like everyday on my way to the gym. on my way to the gym I go by the street that they ask for money on my way back I pass a street that they don't ask for money. and on my way back I see them hiding from the drivers on the street they beg on while they smoke and use their cellphones.
MGM2112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was homeless for a period, and I met tourists, people who had jobs and homes but when they took holidays they would just be homeless for a few weeks, then go back to their lives. Also saw the opposite, people who were really homeless but went to a real job everyday, the world is an odd place.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never give money, give food and supplies instead. That way it can help if they're real and it'll be pretty useless if they're fake. To be fair though, she could've been made homeless recently and the vehicle is all she has, that would explain her nice vehicle. He should've tailed her a bit in a vehicle to see if she goes home.
Ap0R1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"someone's going to end up killing you" x2
Threats noted twice. Subject is now liable to arrest
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They should have followed her and confronted her in the parking lot of her house.
Finum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I am going into a store a few years ago and see this guy approaching. I immediately size him up as a panhandler and he confirms by asking for money and trying to share his down-and-out story. I give him the nope and go inside.
While inside the store I start my inner dialogue and examination of my handling of the beggar. I think that if he was indeed sincere maybe I should just once actually help him. I resolve to do so and go back outside. The exchange is as follows:
Me: Hey man if you and your daughter really need to get into the salvation army tonight I will take you there now and pay for both of you.
Beggar: I can't go I have my bike here.
Me: That is no problem. I have a truck. Throw it in the back.
Beggar: My daughter gets off school in 2 hours and she expects me to be here.
Me: OK - we will go to the SA and I will bring you back.
The beggar paused considering this.
Beggar: C'mon man I just need some money!
Me: I am offering what to do what you said you needed and I am not just giving you cash.
He then mumbled something and walked off.
I know this is pure anecdote and there are plenty of genuinely needy people but damn....
I haven't visited my home town in almost 3 years or so. When I decided to go with my family to revisit some old spots where I used to hang out, I swear I was asked for money or change every 5 minutes. I was so annoyed.
I came arrived back to my home and bumped into a man with a bucket, windex, and rags. He approached me and asked if he could clean all my windshields for a dollar. I said sure, gave him 3 bucks and bought him a cold sprite. It was a hot day and thought he could use a cold drink.
I guess we can approach this in a positive way. Provide me a service and you get money for the service. It could be something simple or small, such as telling a joke.
Wow The Mcdonalds didn't help her? Aren't fast food employees obligated to solve all your problems? They should have at least given her some free big mac coupons. Right?
There is this piece of shit I play poker with and I see him panhandling for money on a weekly basis. Last week I came off the freeway and he was there and I stretched out my hand with a $20 bill and he came running up to my car and I said "FUCK YOU" and drove off.
We have a neighborhood family that does this. No proof that they are fake yet, just a feeling. All perfectly healthy, and young, and always at the same corner. Different person for each day of the week, but almost guarantee same family.
Do not give money to "homeless" people. Instead donate to the local homeless shelter. Many of these people are either on drugs, scamming or a little of both.
If you see homeless with a little day bag with water and a sandwich, probably fake IMO. If they have a big bag of all their belongings, probably more likely to be real. In seattle, just buy Real change paper from a vendor with a badge, don't give money at freeway off-ramps.
My response would've been so simple if she had approached me... "I'm sorry ma'am, I'm fresh outta sympathy. You're more than welcome to check back later, have a nice day!" ๐
Fun fact if you are a drug dealer and get shot dealing drugs. You now qualify for disability benefits. Now you can deal drugs and get disability benefits.
Ruidan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is disgusting. Every time I see a panhandler I feel so horrible given their situation, this is just spitting in the face of people that are already rock bottom.
There is this older Asian man at an off ramp close to where I live. He literally hobbles up the side of the ramp asking for money. When the light turns green, he doesn't even bother hobbling back. He just straight walks like anyone else. All the drivers who gave him money can clearly see that they've been duped. The man may be homeless, but he definitely doesn't have the disability that he portrays.
dougm68 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get why she thought getting a McDonald's employee involved could have swayed the situation her way. Homeless, disabled woman harassed on camera by 2 men at McDonald's parking lot. Workers of the fast food chain ignored her plead for help. ?
mrkruk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone, if you really want to give money to panhandlers, do it to the Salvation Army around the holidays. At least there's a chance it'll go to something worthwhile.
I was really certain this would be about the woman who panhandles along the Roosevelt Blvd in northeast Philly who's fairly notorious for doing the same thing. Now I see that its even more ridiculous that there's more people like that in the world. They must have their own scumbag chatrooms and yearly conventions
I live in a busy area that has a ton of pan handlers. I used to give them my spare changed until I noticed just how many are in the area now. It's like we supported their bad habits. There are a certain few that I have talked to with disabilities that I will still help out however
It could be someone who couldn't afford to stay in their house and used all of their money to buy a new car to live in. A car is more productive than a shitty apartment in terms of how much money each will help you make.
And if she was living in the car, it would be pretty consistent for her to park the car in an area where it wouldn't draw a lot of attention, where it's lighted at night (which is safer), and where she would have access to a public restroom, and food, without needing to drive the car too far.
IDK, i feel like she has some mental stuff going on. Yes, what she is doing is wrong as fuck. It just seems like she isn't all there.
mak6453 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:09:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I see comments like this more and more recently and just want to take a quick second to remind everyone that being an asshole isn't a mental disability. Neither is being an idiot. She seems to be both, but that's all I think you can gather from this video.
The thing that popped into my head is that some people who may be a skitzo often live with others who may be supporting her. Like maybe that isn't her car and she is out of her dam mind but her family just lets her wander.
We really don't know anything about her besides that she thought that a cashier would be on her side in helping her out. Do sane people think like that?
There are plenty of attention whore princesses who can be considered "sane".
Panzis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:27:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a middle-aged lady who used to come into my restaurant, who had that look in her eyes like she lives in another dimension, that this whole world everyone else resides in is very much separated from hers. She would ask the strangest questions, and when questioned would respond with the strangest answers. My boss told me she has money, that she came from a family with money, and has been recently arrested multiple times for breaking into people's houses and stealing medicine. Mental illness twists people into beings that the rest of us can't even comprehend.
I would ask on a pragmatic note to those who find this woman's behavior problematic, "just how poor does one need to be in order to be suffering enough to justify public assistance?"
I ask because my father is homeless and collects 700$ a month as well as 153$ a month in food stamps. He lives in the woods and rides his self-made bike/motorcycle around when i am unable to supply water and food trips... I would like to say thanks to the usa for that little help he does get... but to the wider community i will peraonally attest that this is beyond sub par assistance for a person in this area... the truth is he can't afford housing, health care.. honestly he would be dead without my personal additional assistance on a consistant basis.(which is pretty hard on my jobless depressed ass)he has either some form of autism or dementia or he had a stroke... it's hard to tell from web md and he refuses to ride his bike to the hospital to get checked out.. and refuses to take the (probably wrong) medication he was prescribed as he claims it incapacitates him and prevents him from getting food/taking care of himself... i have to say.. .anybody who see's this woman and thinks they know the slightest thing about what she is dealing with... you probably don't. also it is worth noting.. I drive a cheap old truck... its value is maybe 2 grand... but it costs >2 grand a year to drive as it only get 12mpg.. if i had a car like hers, (which is worth max 5-10 grand) i'd save a little, but the truth is that does not matter. if she sells that she probably won't be able to get reliable transportation for several years....I honestly don't get the malice you guys have... get out of your little bubble. poverty line is 22,000$ do you honestly think this woman is making more than that?
NearHi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:51:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While this lady might have been shady, I urge everyone not to judge right away.
tl;dr - Husband and Wife had great jobs, bought and paid off a Mercedes. Recession hit. No income. Sold all the frills, but the car was new and worked and was used for shopping and job searching, etc. She goes to food bank and gets nasty looks and back-handed comments. She kept the car because it was practically a necessity.
That's kind of how I felt watching this. Obviously I don't know the whole story, but isn't it possible that she either 1) recently lost a job and had no savings and forced to live out of her albeit nice car (maybe that's even why she doesn't have savings. Now forced to beg for her car payment so she's not forced to live on the streets?) or 2) had a mental disorder and was cast out of her family for it?
I knew a guy in high school who suffered from depression and other mental problems, and was incapable of holding a steady job. Eventually his family got sick of him and he ended up being cast out on the streets. I live in a nice area, so he had a nice-ish car, a smartphone, and a suitcase full of his clothes, but after some time of being homeless and living out of his car was begging on the streets. I even remember being like "Why the hell is this guy begging, he has a rich family. What an asshole!" before I knew the whole story.
If she's just a regular person who doesn't want to work for a living so resorted to lying and stealing, then that is reprehensible and perhaps she deserves being lambasted on the internet or worse, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt at first.
I hope that she wasn't just "outed" despite falling on hard times and having no choice.
Just because somebody becomes homeless doesn't mean suddenly all the things they just had explode and disappear. When I was homeless I still had an iphone because I had one from when I was gainfully employed. Rent in most places is $700+ a month whereas a cell phone, once purchased, does not cost nearly as much (and you really don't even need a cell plan in areas where there is a lot of free wifi). So it's perfectly reasonable that somebody can be homeless and still own a smartphone.
Panhandling is meant for people with no where else to turn too hence the name begging. She could easily apply at that Mcdonald's she parks her car infront of or sell her phone and get a cheaper one. I've been homeless myself in highschool and pulled myself out of it by working hard not by begging. She has every opportunity to better herself but stands on the road for hours looking for change. That's assuming she is homeless which she isnt. They play peoples sympathy and its sick she obviously doesn't need the help and the video proved it.
Anyone who resorts to begging is in a pretty desperate situation. This person clearly needs financial help, and is willing to lower themselves to holding a hand out for coins on the street, face to face.
If this were someone online, faking cancer, or a sick kid, running a kickstarter, I'd be mad, but this is not exactly a criminal scam, but a symptom of inequality and poverty in America, hitting all stripes of the population.
It's not necessarily a desperate situation as it is them taking advantage of existing good will and charity towards the homeless. All this does is make people distrust even more.
You can make a lot of money begging at the right spots. A LOT.
It's great for someone who is on unemployment or welfare and doesn't want to get a job they might think is "beneath them" or have to report income that would lower their benefits. Still, as you said, it is a product of inequality but shamming like this has been around as long as humans have printed money.
Poverty is a big issue in this country but some people are just lazy and you have to acknowledge that as a possibility in these situations.
If you want to truly help the homeless, volunteer at a shelter and donate to a food pantry. Anyone begging for change that refuses a bottle of water or a nutritious meal is either a scammer or looking to get a fix for their substance habit. You'll not be doing them any favors by giving them cash.
I can't get in to any single person's refusal of food offer, but to say that maybe they are not hungry at the moment. Where would a homeless person keep/store/preserve the 23'rd 1/2 a turkey sandwich someone gives them in a day. Maybe they need to buy cell phone credits for their burner phone, so they can "pull themselves up by their boot straps", and get a job?
People can look at this person, and opt to give, or not. She's not in blackface, faking anything; she's a white lady, and I'm sure she's not raking it in. The idea that "You can make a lot of money begging at the right spots" is a myth. Where are these LOT of money spots? if they exist, I suspect people get wise to them and others would be there too and they'd be overrun.
Years ago I visited the Vatican. To get in, there's a huge long line that has 25,000 people on some days. Nearer to the front, there was a woman on the ground, who was clearly crippled, and had gruesome injuries. She was literally laying head on the ground palm up, in the middle of the line. Italy has a very generous social safety net, and this woman was probably taking in well more than 500+ euros a day off Catholic guilt [maybe even thousands]. That's specialist doctor money, for lowering ones self to begging in the street, but she was indeed horribly disfigured.
Another guy in the UK waits outside a popular museum and draws the Da Vinci last supper in chalk, then covers it with a tarp overnight, only to continue the next day, complete with a pot of money in front of him. He also rakes in tons of cash, for presumably his artistic talent. Is he working? Are living statues or buskers working when they occupy our public spaces with their profit making endeavors making my world better?
All I'm saying is that moral judgement from a distance is complicated. Maybe some people are drunks, or drug addicts, others may be paying for their place to sleep at a hostel, or they live in their car and need to put gas in it; in my opinion, we ought not be so quick to judge someone else's situation.
Why do people care so much? It's not your money these people are giving her. She may not be working for some million dollar company making them money but it's still kind of like being an entrepreneur... She just has 0 start up money. Personally I like the people playing music more, but if people stopped giving money this way, they wouldn't do it. So the real problem is people giving her money.
She's exploiting people the same way million dollar companies exploit people... So if this video makes you mad, stop shopping at Walmart too.
To play devil's advocate, they were harassing her on private (owned my Mcdonalds) property. She has a car and automatically assumed she wasn't homeless when really that means nothing. If she was homeless, it would probably be better to keep whatever car she had if its relatively new as it's less likely to break down and very useful for getting back on her feet.
PAR_KER ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who gives a shit. I love how everybody is all shocked and shit. The guys filming are a couple of cuntboys. If she has the balls to ask strangers for change, fuckin let her. She technically has as much a right to beg as a homeless person.
I'm probably going to be crucified for saying this but it is possible she is homeless but just happens to have a pretty nice car... you honestly never know. However, if she is fraudulent that is wrong for her to do that.
I hate to say it, but just because she has a car, doesn't mean she has income. Maybe she lost her job but still needs a reliable way to get around town. Maybe her husband got a pay cut and now they need a little extra money every month to make ends meet.
ox_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:54:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do most people just come to /r/videos for videos of women being put in their place? Because that's what's at the top, everyday.
Who cares??? Is it morally wrong? Yes It is. Is she acting like a child? Yes she is. She's not forcing people to give her anything. Don't like it? Ignore her. The internet is full of people trying to be the next viral sensation.
Maybe she lives in her car? Recently homeless? You don't have to sleep on the sidewalk to be in need jussayin. I don't think there's some grand panhandling ploy in play here, doesn't seem that lucrative.
I stopped watching after the McDonalds Employee came in... My only thing to say is some homeless people so live in their cars. I knew a woman and child running from an abusive husband that lived in a car for a few weeks. I feel like a converastion would have been more appropriete than flanking this woman and trying to expose her like TMZ. Maybe she cant work has money from a disability to cover a car and house but would like some spending money and begs for change. People in the end have the right to not give her any and if shes being aggressive involve the police. Just my two cents.
[deleted] ยท -58 points ยท Posted at 16:18:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, maybe she needs some extra cash, who knows. Yeah there are actually people struggling for money but in the end it's us giving them the money, we don't have to. You wouldn't believe a stranger on the internet, so why would you in reality?
You wouldn't believe a stranger on the internet, so why would you in reality?
Because it's easier for someone to believe a filthy person standing at an intersection is homeless than it is the sob story of someone behind a computer screen.
ofhdhdy ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 17:34:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you need extra cash, sell your newer car and take the fucking bus.
Really not okay to put her license plate in the video, no matter what she did. Give that to the proper authorities if you feel it's necessary, but don't facilitate a witch hunt on a platform like this.
Really not ok to lie and claim that you're homeless with your hand out taking hard working people's money, while rolling around in a brand new-ish car...if you can't understand that,you obviously don't understand right vs wrong....fuck this lady
I 100% agree with that, but there's such a thing as too much. You don't spread people's private information like that. Leave it to the proper authorities so justice gets done correctly.
"proper authorities" won't do shit, this lady will be out tomorrow and the next day and so on and so forth, the more people from her hometown who see this the better, the less money she gets for free the better, everybody else's money is not your money, work for what you want, work hard, do good, and improve yourself and your situation, that is what this country is all about, not beggars on the corner who have no decency and lie and thieve off of others, once again fuck this lady, even if cops chased her off from this corner she'd find somewhere else, she's a lazy piece of shit and is taking money away from actual homeless people who could really use it, there is no excuse for her actions and I wouldn't do a damn thing different than these guys, this woman should be outed for the fraud that she is for the whole world to see and I truly stand behind that...
No but I feel like people from her hometown have a right to see her car recognize it from this video and tell her to fuck off and stay away from her...period
They kinda don't. You can call it what you want, but that's harassment until they actually witness her doing it. The guys filming are lucky she didn't call police because legally they're more at fault than she is.
Your license plate is not private. I never understood this. It's public - hence why it's readily available to view by anyone, any time. The exact opposite of private. Why it's required by law to be on your car and visible, at all times.
Just because it's on your car and registered to you doesn't mean it's private. These made up internet laws are funny.
Goddamn 1400 comments. This has probably already been suggested, but given that this is filmed by a "production company", I have to wonder if it's fake, ala deceptive planned parenthood videos.
Are these ppl serious? Who gives a shit if shes begging for change she's not wrong at all if people wanna give her money that's on them. I see dozens of YouTubers begging for patreon subs all the time, basically the same shit. When I was younger I was taught to absolutely never give the homeless money. Either buy them.some snacks or a meal, or leave em be. Just like everyone else should.
wryan12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless the people you're referring to on youtube are claiming to be homeless it's not the same thing. It's not that she's asking for money, it's that she's misrepresenting why she needs it.
Ya I mean if shes straight up saying she's homeless and needs money, than ya she's definitely scum but still nobody should give any homeless person money, it's just not how you help them. And that was more directed at the people who play video games and stream them etc. I'm sorry but I don't care how good you are at the game, I'm not supporting you so you can continue to play a video game for 10 hours a day.
wryan12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see what you mean with the homeless. Getting them food and other type of help is usually better just incase they have a drug habit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is just as annoying as those stolen valor videos. Who cares.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the daily "reddit jerks off over the idea of hating poor people" video
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's an awful lot of assumptions going on here.
I'm not arguing for or against her state of homelessness in this particular case, but
Plenty of homeless people own an auto. Even a newish one. People can go from seemingly stable finances to losing the roof over their head right quick.
Plenty of homeless people aren't hobos. They haven't been homeless for years. They could be couch surfing, with access to laundry and showers. That doesn't mean they aren't homeless; it just means they aren't destitute.
Loads of folks do dumb shit when confronted with a camera. Loads of people do dumb shit when embarrassed. It's entirely possible that she's the type to do both, and is, you know, embarrassed about begging for change and for being homeless.
TL;DR We don't know her story. Stop assuming. And, if you do want to help the homeless and worry about situations like this, give money or time directly to a credible charity, not to a beggar.
So, I just want to point out something that a lot of people (including the guys filming) might not understand. It definitely seems like she's not actually homeless, but just because she has a car (even a nice one) doesn't mean you're not homeless. She seems like she just has a screw loose, but I've known several people who have been forced to live out of their cars. It's like saying "How can you be homeless if you have a smart phone?!" You can actually sign up for a free limited plan through the government if you qualify. Just want to say, that's a slippery slope to be going down.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is no problem here. People can ask for your money and you can give it or you can choose not to give it. I don't give because of this kind of thing and not wanting to support chronic substance abuse, but if you want to put a few dollars down, go ahead; just don't cry about it when you find this kind of thing is happening. Leave her alone.
vwzwv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Notice how when a woman gets caught red handed she immediately co-ops a complete stranger to witness 'harassment'? ..and it usually works. women power.
shuvvel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These are the same kind of people that stand outside abortion clinics and harass women until they have a mental breakdown without even thinking of doing a damn thing to actually address the causes of abortion (or in this case homelessness.)
[deleted] ยท -31 points ยท Posted at 17:03:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:27:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and the public has a right to know about scams like this through reporting.
So if you gave this lady a dollar a day for a year and then this video surfaced, you would give her a pat on the back and say "hey, nice job, you got me good" ?
G3m1nu5 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 16:30:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know she's not homeless? This video could be misleading.
How do you know she is homeless? If she was sleeping in her car or whatever then the normal reaction to someone confronting her would be to just explain the situation and explain why things aren't as they look.
Once you get defensive like this it's pretty clear you're hiding something.
Dang, why does reddit have such a hard-on for exposing the exceptions to situations where people face difficulty. False-rape accusations, race relations. This shit. Who cares? Are people really that insecure about their privilege?
mak6453 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have a lot of these people around my city. They're organized and obviously not actually homeless. They have iPhones and I once saw two of them come together, share a bag of chips, and then both walk away and adopt the exact same limp. It's disgusting.
hang3xc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why is it that people still don't understand that you CAN be recorded in public, and/or have your picture taken. It is NOT illegal. You have no expectation of privacy in public. Nobody needs your permission & they don't have to delete anything
Funny how she claims she is disabled, yet is recorded RUNNING back and forth taking money under false pretenses.
Even funnier is knocking on a McDonald's drive thru window to report(?) them. LOL at the expression from the worker, like "What do you want ME to do about it???
She's not a "fake homeless person" she's a panhandler and these people are everywhere and like the guy in the video says there are actually homeless people out there that really need help and these panhandlers hog all the corners trying to get free money from people.
i thought about doing this once with my gf as an experiment just to see who would be able to collect more money. I can't bring myself to do it even for that reason. If someone wants to do what she is doing then more power to them. These guys are just as bad as the jerk who blocks a lane of traffic when merging is ahead.
The fake homeless people expose themselves in Edinburgh.
Walk up and down Princes street a few times, and you could very easily see a few hundred homeless people over the course of a day. Of course, once it gets to about 7-8pm and it's starting to get dark, the numbers will very rapidly dwindle.
Hey. Just like republicans tell us that corporations never game the system, the democrats tell us people never defraud the welfare system. My life is a lie.
I mean, she certainly could have a mental disability... that's obvious if she feels validation for parking at McDonalds and not being a customer, to go and panhandle. But, she probably needs some assistance and intervention from APS and other organizations to get her the help she obviously needs for mental illness. McDonald's would actually have to surveillance and prosecute by having her vehicle towed. I'll definitely keep an eye out for this lady as we do a lot of work in the area where this was filmed... What a shitty thing to do... coming from someone who was homeless, in the middle of winter, with my 8 yo... sleeping in your car is not fun, but what a horrible disrespect to folks that are without even the shelter of a vehicle. I never took a dime from another person or Gov't assistance while I was homeless. Saved my money and bought a house.
She's not the only con out there. This is unfortunately quite common. There was a lady who lived in a mansion who would panhandle it was in a documentary or something. Pretty incredible. Of course there's also people who will con others and not pretend to be homeless. It's just insane what people do. I'm always curious about their rationale too. How they justify it to themselves. Like how does their mind work? Pretty messed up. Just as messed up as some business person conning people too. All shapes and sizes... anyway, They should make it illegal to panhandle on the road, it creates a hazard.
Been living in austin for 7 years, I feel the struggle as well lol, I pass manchaca/Ben white intersection multiple times everyday and get asked for money by a different person every time. Very Frustrating
This is why it should be illegal to panhandle. Seriously, she probably makes more than I do because of all the morons handing her wads of large bills.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was young and stupid with a bleeding heart I used to give these people money until one of them on crutches with a bad limp dropped the crutches and scurried back to his stash as I drove away when I gave him a bunch of money.
Ads an adult I have worked a lot with the programs that help these people, and for every sob story about someone who is actually really a hard worker down on their luck there are 20 people who are just lazy and/or drunks.
The truth is if you simply show up to work on promptly for every shift and speak clearly and respectfully you will be making more than minimum wage in no time.
I get that maybe this lady isnt homeless and someone may have more proof to that but I really don't understand why everyone is making it a big deal because she has a car. I've been very homeless and still had a car to sleep in. That doesn't mean I didn't try to get money for a hotel room as often as I could because believe it or not a car (or in my case truck) isn't a great place to sleep every night and I do like the occasional shower.
Has anyone pointed out she could be living out of her car? Thats considered homeless in my opinion
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's allowed to beg for money if she wants. That's her prerogative. You don't have to give her money. I personally assume that most people asking for money don't NEED it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll have to find the article, but there was a woman in my city who was panhandling outside of a Wal-Mart. The police were called after a few weeks and she moved to a McDonald's.
I guess someone at the local newspaper did some serious investigating and found out she was pretty much living at a hotel, which can't be cheap, and she had 3 kids.
The article was published and the police got involved. She ended up loosing her kids and going to jail.
jsnoots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glad bag!!!!! I lived in NYC for years and would see a fake homeless lady that we named Glad Bag. She would beg in the subway or on the subway steps, she would be naked and shoeless but she would be wearing a black garbage bag. She would sometimes actively beg, sometimes she would pretend to be asleep and just keep a cup for change in her hand, sometimes she would go "all in" and writhe on the floor slowly wriggling out of her garbage bag moaning "my baby, my baby..."
Anyway, she killed it in the begging department, once the train of tourists had rolled out of the station she would get up, count her money, do a quick call on her hidden cell phone and at the end of her day she hopped in a car (old PT Cruiser) and drive away.
She did roll around on the wet subway floor screaming and crying, letting her rather unkempt vagina come out of the trash bag to look extra crazy but she was very smart and most definitely not homeless.
Glad Bag rulled, she is no longer on the job, I haven't seen her in 10 years or more.
Tyehn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean yeah, it's crappy and dishonest, but she is not breaking any law unless the state requires a license to panhandle that she does not possess. There is no law written law that says you have to be destitute to beg for money. I do wonder though if there is some sort of applicable law to having a sign that states you are homeless, when you in fact are not, that could be enforced in a situation like this.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IMO nobody begging for money in the U.S. actually needs you to give them money. They don't need money to get food and they don't need money to get shelter because there are government services (not to mention charities on top of that) that will provide those for them if they really need it.
They may need something: mental health care, a job, drug rehab, etc., but your money is definitely not one of them regardless of what they say. Giving them money won't help them. This is the primary reason (amongst others, e.g. my own safety) I won't do it.
I'm all for not giving, just on the base that you never know where the money will go. There are ton of drunk and beggars networks , I don't want my money to go in booze or mafia/criminals pocket.
It's sad, but that's how shity the world is/has turned into.
Honestly, they shouldn't have confronted her until they saw the house she lives in. Other than the car she drives, they have no idea what her life is actually like. I'm sure they're all right about what she's doing, but a car isn't much to go by. If you lose your house, you do still have a car, usually, so it's plausible that she really is homeless. More ammo is needed.
This is why I always buy food for homeless people. The ones who are actually homeless are always incredibly thankful, and the ones who are just alcoholics or scammers fuck right off.
Although one time a homeless guy asked me for $3.28 exactly. I asked him why $3.28, and he informed me that it was the price of his favorite 40 oz. I said, "fuck it, you're honest, so why not"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who knows her story?!? Vehicle might be her dad's, maybe she suffers from mental disabilities. Maybe she lives in the vehicle but can't sell it to get back on her feet due to unpaid parking tickets or something.
It's likely that she's just taking advantage but, why is panhandling reserved specifically for homeless people with drug and alcohol problems? Maybes she's just down on her luck in between jobs and needs to fund her life rather than losing everything.
All I am saying is just stop judging people we know nothing about.
These cameramen make all sorts of assumptions (threateningly too) and make themselves look like huge assholes - do they really have to assume they know what her situation is?
Look again, there is no proof that is actually her car. That shirt she is wearing, could easily be from goodwill.
ITT: hundreds of people being disrespectful to other human beings so it makes themselves feel better about their own financial situation. Does anyone stop to actually think "Well gee, we don't really know what her situation really is do we?" No. Shame on you all. Nobody stops to even consider why people like her might be forced to go out there? We point and laugh and blame and insult- as if she is some kind of subhuman - it's sick. Meanwhile the youtube video is probably going to be making easy cash while this lady who could genuinely have major problems - is aggressively harassed.
It's not "women like this" who are a problem with society. It's "videos like this" and people who laugh and make themselves feel better about their own financial position - that is the problem with society.
A 2004 Fiat is not exactly a home. This woman may be everything the video makers are accusing her of, but this video certainly doesn't prove she isn't homeless, or isn't in need.
Still, scams along these lines are why I only give through charities I trust.
Ah, thanks. Doesn't necessarily mean it's hers, however... and it's still possible to be homeless and have a car. In fact, it was quite common at the start of the Great Depression.
its a fiat 500x they didn't make those in the US till just a couple years ago. they are 20k+ vehicles. if she can afford that she isn't poor or homeless. if she is she is just dumb
OK, I'm gonna play the devil's advocate. We have no actual proof, just different opinions, voiced by two or more upset people. Let's not grab the pitchforks yet, we might not be seeing the full picture. The video was fun to watch though.
This is sadly more common than you would expect. One of my buddies knew a group of people that would do this. They knew each-other and would coordinate their pan handling locations. I believe they even shared profits in some cases.
IMHO, she didn't do anything wrong. If you are dumb enough to give money to a panhandler then don't complain if money isn't used for what you thought. In my state, there are EBT cards, food stamps, WIC programs, SNAP programs, free cell phones, soup kitchens and homeless shelters, no one needs to be hungry and shelter less in Massachusetts, the bluest liberal state in the Union,unless they are mentally ill or have addiction issues. I don't give them anything, they get enough free stuff already.
People scam...all people whom you know! Either it's begging for money or starting a company to sell you stuff you don't need, but there is a trick to make you buy. Even people who work 9 to 5...are scamming! They believe that working those hours at a dead-end job lets them think they are better than the next guy or girl. It's a big scam...or better, an illusion.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this lady is obviously a cynical jerk but these dudes need to get a damn life
Kinda wish she would have called the police. She probably doesn't have a permit to solicit money from people; therefore, she could be charged if the city they're in requires one.
How does this post have 11k upvotes even though the video only has 5k views? Does it have to do with the way youtube refreshes it's viewcount or something?
Scufix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her choices after being confronted tell me she's at least a little crazy. There's nothing that says you have to be homeless to beg for money. Buddhist monks do it door to door. Good job though guys. You really cracked the case.
Steveth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Come on Reddit, no one has identified this woman yet? We even have her license plate number.
What's worse she has an out of state license plate, she's that calculating she can't do it on her home turf. At the same time she is taking away from people in need. I'm glad she was exposed and no one rescued her from her stupidity.
She's 100% in the wrong but goddamn those guys are acting like assholes. They aren't doing this for good reasons.
Eeju ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"This is already viral" while filming her? Lol
Now that they exposed her, the folks can rest easy. They have exposed the most shady person in America ever! Sorry Trump, this women in Richmond with Maryland tags beat you lol
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Richmond resident here. If this is all I have to do to top the front page, give me a few minutes. Brb.
"Excuse me, can you ask these MEN to stop harassing me?! I'm a poor defenceless woman and these men are harassing me for no reason!"
"Somebody is gonna KILL you!"
Jesus, what an absolute cunt. She's probably far from homeless. I bet she grew up in a rich family where they handed her whatever she wanted and now that she's not getting stuff handed to her she's out begging other people for money and acting as if everyone else around her is the problem and not herself and owes her a hand out. You can tell that's her attitude by how insistent she's being with those poor McDonalds staffers.
If she's "disabled" shouldn't she have a disabled parking thing in her car to hang on her rear-view mirror when she's in the McDonalds parking lot begging for change?
This looks more fake then her sign, which we don't see. Don't give to the homeless folks. Never know when the middle class will fake being poor, and rich simultaneously.. seriously. Give to the homeless. They don't wear lycra and get paid for YouTube hits.
The guys who made this video are pathetic. Harassing a woman with mental health issues in the guise of justice. If they are out to "expose" injustice there are plenty of real issues out there.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:13:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would call it fraud or scam. You are exploiting the kindness of others and that normally involves money.
evenios ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:02:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
she dont look homeless to me.
McDuble ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:24:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bull, capitalism is based on consensual private trade. If we are gonna argue with such hyperbole thefn maybe we should also be saying socialism is based on stealing from people since you don't own your own labor and it gets taken from you whether or agree to it or not.
Go set up a fake charity and after you make $10,000 from it, announce to everyone how you defrauded them and see where that takes you.
How is it people don't recognize the deference, This one is clean cut and better dressed than a homeless person. If you give people like this food/money it's your stupidity.
Leave the poor woman alone. If she wants to ask people for money that's her business, and if they want to give it to her that's their business. That self-righteous cameraman needs to find a hobby that doesn't involve harassing innocent civilians who are just going about their day.
That self-righteous cameraman needs to find a hobby that doesn't involve harassing innocent civilians who are just going about their day.
But it makes them feel so much better about their own financial position, making less fortunate people feel like they are subhuman! "lmao what an idiot, a fraud!" They assume to know everything about her... While they will probably get paid soon for youtube views and the internet laughs and insults. Disgusting behavior.
Look again, there is not proof that is actually her car. That shirt she is wearing, could easily be from goodwill.
ITT: hundreds of people being disrespectful to other human beings so it makes themselves feel better about their own financial situation. Does anyone stop to actually think "Well gee, we don't really know what her situation really is do we? Wow we are assuming an awful lot about this person!" No. Shame on you all. Nobody stops to even consider why people like her might be forced to go out there? We point and laugh and blame and insult- as if she is some kind of subhuman - it's sick. Meanwhile the youtube video is probably going to make some easy cash while this lady who could genuinely have major problems - is aggressively harassed.
It's not "women like this" who are a problem with society. It's "videos like this" and people who laugh and make themselves feel better about their own financial position - that is the problem with society. This is not much different from racism, it's worthism.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes I am sure the $.15 cents he will make will really improve his quality of life
Do you see the irony here? that could be how much she made- you don't even know. You just keep assuming you know everything about a stranger.
Everyone is assuming they know everything about this persons situation. Just because she rests a bag on a car, that is not proof that is actually her car. That shirt she is wearing, could easily be from goodwill. Stop assuming you know everything about a stranger and their situation.
We'd rather shit on the lady because its easier and makes us feel better about our financial choices.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:37:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And you're so blind to even see how that completely illustrates my point about assumptions. You can't even see I said nothing about "rich". It proves my point.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Terrence and Phillip sound pretty confident this is going "viral" almost like they paid Reddit for upvotes since there are twice as many of those as actual youtube views.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:38:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Giving to a panhandler is a voluntary act. There is no exchange of goods or services, therefore, no misconduct or misrepresentation. There is no "deal" for an involved party to feel they've been defrauded. OP is a third party intruder making judgements and accusations based on nothing but his own prejudices. He could be charged for slander, libel, and harassment. Edit: changed "she should sue" to "he could be charged", because she's clearly incapable of rational discourse, and the DA could pursue the case, if so inclined.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:34:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 16:20:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If people give her money, why not keep doing it? If you want to stoop that low then go ahead. We should be scolding the people who give her money. She wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for them.
I see, so we're supposed to punish altruism for assuming that they really are experiencing hardship? Where do you draw the line with that mentality?
DutchDK ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:58:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean in the same manner we should blame a rape victim, instead of the rapist ? After all, if she hadn't walked alone/worn that skirt/worn makeup/been female, the rapist would not have done anything...
(FYI: Sarcasm was sprinkled extensively all over this reply..)
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:30:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone with a criminal record that makes it next to impossible to find a job facing a very real possibility of being "actually homeless" very soon, remember that there are people that are actually in need out there who really don't have any options. Proof is proof and there are people out to take advantage of yoyr generosity, but don't be an aggressive dick just because you "don't believe" that someone is homeless.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:37:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty shitty thing to do. There are plenty of people that are honestly down on their luck and in need of assistance and this woman just makes like less likely that those people in real need get the help they need.
That being said, please don't let this stop you from helping people. Obviously, giving money directly to the person might not be the best way to help. You can always donate to a legitimate organization that assists the homeless. For example, in my city, there is a homeless shelter to which I annually contribute. That way I know that I"m helping the homeless and that the money is going toward the right things.
edit: what piece of shit people would downvote this?
What a shame she is a looney, that pussy looks tight af.
[deleted] ยท -29 points ยท Posted at 18:38:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how much time and effort do you suppose the creator of this video invested in this outrage mongering piece? a few hours, perhaps? was outing this woman as a fraud in exchange for a bunch of youtube views a more effective use of time than volunteering at a soup kitchen or a homeless shelter?
listen to the audio of this thing. the people taking the video are clearly very upset, breathing heavily, stammering inarticulate accusations. they're angry that this person seems to be taking advantage of their community, and they're by god going to get as many other people as they can angry about it. smh.
i'm not defending this lady acting shitty, taking advantage of peoples' generosity - which she very well may be if the facts of her situation are what the CC is implying. i'm honestly confused and saddened that this is what we're so often reduced to as an example of our species. get pissed, type some stuff, click some things, go read more stuff, repeat.
here's one for you: either put money directly into the hand of a random stranger holding a sign, or don't. why be super, super pissed that some debatable portion of them are scam artists? maybe do you while they do them, and try to find something to smile about today.
Because it's corrupting good will. Because people feel like there are a lot of scammers out there like this lady, they're less likely to be compassionate when it really matters.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:46:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
Voixoff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They may need money to pay for medecine, a place to stay, a place to take a shower, a blanket, new socks, new under garment, sanitary pads,
And hell, poor people deserve the liberty to buy some shit from time to time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
Voixoff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have given leftovers and hot coffee to homeless people before
(I was at a get-together and whole pies were left untouched so i just walked around the block handing over slices to the regular panhandlers. Then i found a lady looking into the dumpsters and i proposed her the pie and she took the rest)
But mostly, i think even poor people deserve to buy there own food (they may have religious restrictions/allergies) and nice things. I think it's wrong to not think of them as humans. They have the same wants and needs you do.
They have the right to want something else besides bare necessities.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
Voixoff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't see "figuring out the fake homeless people" as my priority. On the grand scale of evil this is a petty, small, inconsequential one.
I you are on the street begging for money rather than having fun somewhere / working there is more chance you need it than you don't.
I don't see what's so wrong with this. If the most valuable think she can do with her time is pan handle on the corner than that's it. I feel sorry for her.
hahjews ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:08:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The guy is actually treading the law by asking about her disability. She really might have a 'mental disorder/disability'. But yeah I can't explain the nice car.
Panhandling should not be allowed. There are enough charities and government programs to help if you are truly in need. If you think it's OK, then maybe "homeless" people should just start ringing home doorbells asking for food and money. That would be even more fun, right?
rjcarr ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:17:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, a few points:
For those that do give money to panhandlers, this shouldn't dissuade you from doing so because the number of scammers is probably pretty small.
Just because she drives a nice car doesn't mean she isn't homeless. You can lose your life quickly for a number of reasons (it happened to my sister and bro-in-law). It often doesn't make sense to sell your car if it's your only mode of transportation.
Similarly, she really could be disabled, but obviously not physically (or if she was, there'd probably be another fraud case).
Anyway, the point is just don't be cynical. The lady in this video likely was a fraud by the way she acted, but it's certainly possible the lady could have fallen on hard times and thought this was the best short term solution.
Not voicing my opinion of this video in any way, but I can't help but feel like most of the people who comment in this thread will be the same people that say they hate SJWs.
Edit: I'll take the downvotes as confirmation of my suspicions, thank you.
Edit: Good, good. Let the hate flow through you.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:36:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So not only are you admitting that your comment is irrelevant to the topic at hand, you're going to make wild assumptions about the people appalled at her bullshit.
some people actually have a car, and yet have no money and no job..and they might actually beg for some money... this does not give this idiot any right to harass her...
this female is doing nothing wrong.
all praise to her.
the truth is that she probably made thirty or fifty dollars, if she was lucky, and that will be spent and gone quickly, she committed no crime against any person.
and, one issue that this prick that made this video failed to recognize is that even tho she has a 2014 vehicle that he does not know her situation... she could be behind on her payments.... she could be facing foreclosure at home... maybe she doesnt have a home... maybe she is sleeping in her car... maybe she has recently ended an abusive relationship and she managed to come out of it with the keys to a decent car....
somebody should knock the sht out of this inconsiderate and hateful btch that made this video.
wanna know what he is trying to do? he is trying to make a newsworthy video at the expense of this obviously nice young lady.
have a nice day.
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 17:50:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Luda87 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my brother in law friend was a Holmes's after he lost his business and got everything taking away from him except the car prenew BMW 750 he was sleeping in it and running around so it doesn't get repos. No one know what happen to this women maybe she sleeps in the car who knows
Your BIL's friend should have had at least a year's worth of expenses saved up long before he bought a BMW 750. He also should never have been financing a fancy car without making sure he would never be homeless in the event his business failed.
His homelessness was not something that just happened to him. He stupidly set up his life so that he would be completely fucked if he lost his business. There was no reason this guy should have ever been homeless. If he had enough money to buy an $80,000 car, then he should have had enough money to secure his life against homelessness.
mv202 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
we don't know her story. a car means almost nothing - she could have lost her job and is now way behind on payments, desperate to just stay afloat. does she have kids that need food? we don't a morality police - she lives with it, not you. when people give a few dollars on corners, they do it (generally) to make themselves feel good. no way is giving a few dollars to this woman taking away from others that MIGHT need it more... and who are you to say she doesn't need it. if you don't like what she is doing, keep your dollar for yourself - i suspect you do keep it no matter who is asking for it. if you're ever in such a spot where you need to ask people for money, pray that people are kinder to you.
I'm fairly certain this is actually becoming more and more common. Where I live these "homeless" people dress well and look like they have it together. They actually are there all the time like they're on the clock. Always army vets with a family that is struggling.
+1 - Lots of rich kids get in even if they don't do better in school. Power and connections go a long way. If you don't believe me hear it from rich kids themselves.
She isn't breaking any law and this is a standard hustle. People are upset that she's taking money that would have otherwise gone to homeless people. But they just spend it on booze and drugs anyway so I'm not sure why people think they are noble for chastising her.
Actually, by state and specific county she could be. Aggressive panhandling (standing somewhere that affects traffic, etc) can be considered unlawful panhandling, which is a crime.
Playing devil's advocate, owning a car doesnt mean you are not homeless or in need. Also, many states' SSI (disability payments) are paltry and not easy to live on.
And you may be a person who cant hold down a part time job due to your disability and only get an unsurvivable amount from the state to try to live on. Many states want you to work part time to supplement your income when they give you a portion of disability payments.
Getting on disability can be very difficult. Some people actually have to hire lawyers to do it because the state looks for any reason to deny you.
I used to know a guy on SSI and he was just a person who had judgement problems (part of his mental disability). Got paid a paltry amount from the state that there was no way he could survive on. He could not hold down a job for long because he made bad decisions. He was really fucked.
Edit: and the thread got locked! Mods of r/video never disappoint! No submission gets my upvote more than a locked thread from r/videos because the mods are afraid of the plebs of reddit gettin allllll riled up!
What is she doing taking a handful of change from every 5th person on the highway? Get off her ass. If she can't make ends meet then she can't make ends meet. You don't have to be homeless to beg for change, you just have to be low and desperate enough
Edit because thread locked: I don't care if she makes more than minimum wage doing this. I don't care if it's untaxed. 16 year olds make hundreds of untaxed dollars bringing out plates in a restaurant.
Acting like she's some kind of villain when 90% of the places you shop and eat at are profitable because of lies and misrepresentation. Hell I don't even know if she's lying because I never saw anything that said she explicitly claimed to be homeless.
Stupid muricans, compaining that a woman with a car is not homeless.
Here in Romania, were showing on national television that two beggars in one of the poorest regions were earning enough money to own a nice house and were rich enough to travel by taxi or sleep at the hotel when were too tired, and people still gave them money.
Well....that turned out absolutely exactly as I expected it to be. The camera man repeating his right to film whomever for the intent to monetize the video and earn revenue; a woman who just continues to look for authorities expecting the camera man to be beaten and cuffed and dragged away for filming her without her consent; a horribly awkward feeling the entire time where nothing really is solved other than the camera man showing evidence until about 10 minutes into the video; and the cops showing up at the end.
Ugh why do people do this!? People panhandle and you don't have to be homeless to do it! Actually a lot of homeless that I've met on the streets do it because they're barely getting by.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Self-righteous asshats who go around with cameras trying to "expose" fake homeless people actually irritate me more than the people they're trying to "expose". Especially this dipshit. "How much you get? HOW MUCH YOU GET!? PEOPLE ARE REALLY HOMELESS GAWD!" Man, get the fuck outta here.
And lol, trying to involve random McDonalds people.
Wow that was disgusting. Sure it's bad to be begging on the side of the road pretending to be homeless. But the way the hotblooded SJW filming her and harrasing her because he doesn't agree with welfare is pathetic. Hate is hate and I have a lot now for this waste of a video...
While this is certainly shady and most likely fraudulent, it boggles my mind that anyone would be so outraged by it that they'd take the time out of their day to record this. This woman is getting spare change from people. Compared to large scale corporate greed and corruption this is nothing, but here we are talking about it instead of focusing on things that actually impact our lives.
You're adorable. I'll explain why your silly little comment isn't applicable.
The "not as bad as" fallacy, also known as the fallacy of relative privation,[2] asserts that [1] if something is worse than the problem currently being discussed, then [2] the problem currently being discussed isn't that important at all. In other words: nothing matters if it's not literally the worst thing happening.[note 1] It's popular with people who know perfectly well they're doing something wrong. Since they are fully aware that they're doing something wrong, they feel compelled to attempt to justify it and do so by pointing to other (usually worse) actions.
I'm not saying it isn't wrong. Did you miss the first sentence of my comment, where I pointed out that "this is certainly shady and most likely fraudulent"? There's a difference between saying that there's nothing wrong with a thing, and saying that there are things that are more deserving of time and effort.
edit: Furthermore, we're taking the recorder at his word that the sign says she's homeless, that she isn't homeless, and that she's begging for money. All we actually see in this video, is a guy recording a woman with a sign at an intersection. We don't even see any money change hands. She could be doing anything. There's so little information about this woman's situation. If you're going to present yourself as possessing superior logic, maybe you shouldn't start on such a shaky foundation.
You would be surprised how much these people get. My ex FIL told me a story of a well dressed guy in a suit panhandling saying he missed his flight and his baggage was lost and he needed some extra money to get back home after his business trip. He got a few dollars for that. A week later he did the same thing. My Ex FIL asked him why he had been doing that for 2 weeks. Caught- the guy told him he had been a banker or something and lost his job and realized he could make more money in a few hours panhandling than he did in a day at his job and he had his afternoons free to surf.
That has nothing to do with how little this woman's sphere of influence is, or how little impact panhandlers have on the economy, and whether, as a result, the time and effort spent on recording this wouldn't be better spent exposing things that actually impact everyone, rather than a relative handful of people that drive through a specific intersection.
Depending where she lives, she may very well be homeless with a car like that. It's pretty common in places like LA to work an office job and still not make rent.
Welcome to Vancouver BC. (Not to say we don't have a very, very serious and real homeless/drug/mental health problem with the DTES and around downtown) but you get insane amounts of these kids acting homeless on Granville street - and tourists and locals alike seem to buy it up. I see them at night sometimes when im biking taking their shitty clothes and 2 dogs and 5 skateboards back into their SUV that mommy bought and heading home for the night. People need to learn how common and big this scam is.
So what can she expect to have happen to her by the authorities? So let's say her story is straight, and she's disabled. She collects from the government, yet owns a 2016 car bought new, and she's wearing a marathon shirt while jogging quite healthily for a homeless person down the island of the road. My grandmother makes $895 from the government monthly for being disabled in California, and she co-pays for prescriptions so take away $20. Realistically speaking you would need at the very least $200 put away to go for food for the month, expecting she only spends it on herself. Where are you realistically putting away the money to purchase that car?
Disregarding the possibility that she is possibly disabled, she would have to be evading taxes, because she is collecting what are essentially donations. Let's say $15 an hour on a busy street near a fast food area, not taxed. People come around with money to spend. Makes sense why you would panhandle there.
So, she is either saying she's homeless and also disabled, which is illegal or illogical because you can't file for disability without a stable home of some sort. Or she's not actually disabled, claiming to be both disabled and homeless, and collecting money of the oblivious which won't get taxed.
There's also the subtle threat on their life, which may be taken as if she was saying someone may not take too well to their harassment in the future which may end up in them dying, but it was probably just a flustering of an idiot who got caught red-handed clasping for things to say to have any sort of argument left.
Again, what are the repercussions for this? What can you expect to happen to someone like this from a legal standpoint? At worst, she's fraudulent in either collecting disability she doesn't need or she's conning people out of their money when she has a influx of income, maybe both, and she made a threat on someone's life.
I mean I'm glad she was exposed but the people that expose this kind of shit are always just as cringe in my opinion. "I'm going to tell McDonald's your parked in their parking lot without being a customer".
The truth speaks for itself there is no need to act like you are a bad ass by degrading these people even if they deserve it.
I mean, she is very attractive for a 'homeless' person. I could easily see her pulling in 30-40$ an hour doing this. Its weird but I feel like women make more than men when it comes to begging.
I'm just playing devils advocate here but, is what she's doing all that bad? Who is it hurting? People don't have to roll down their windows and give this lady money, and I can't imagine she makes that much off the people that do. So the fuck what she's asking people for money? Unless panhandling is illegal wherever this is taking place I really don't quite understand the hatred this is generating. Yeah, she's probably lying about being homeless, but even then, who the fuck really cares? And maybe she really does have a disability? Why is that possibility immediately dismissed? She certainly doesn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer, and neither do the two filming her. In fact, the McDonalds employees seem like the most sensible people in this whole video.
Is witch-hunting this woman really taking the moral high ground?
Again, I disagree with what she's doing, sure. But I also disagree with the absurd amount of negative attention she's getting, and the demeanor of the two guys recording the video. This isn't exactly the highest level of fraud we're talking about here, even if it is some kind of fraud.
This is the YT version of beating up homeless people.
Why does it matter to the cammer what income/residence/lifestyle the beggar has?
Cammer IS harrassing the beggar. She was minding her own "business" and someone who doesn't like her "business" came along and accused her of violating their point of view.
Beggar's POV is that she wants to stand on a street corner breathing car fumes in the hot sun ... let her! maybe she thinks it's more fun than waiting tables or sucking dick or selling stocks.
I understand that cammer and his ilk might feel like beggar scammed some people for money ... perhaps they should remember what Daoism says about giving: The person giving should thank the recipient for the opportunity to all them to feel good about giving.
Cammer is a true SJW ranting about something which doesn't affect them and feels they need to change behavior of someone else.
I think the issue that is being taken with this women is that she's out there with her "Homeless" sign, and is untruthful. Someone begging isn't the problem. Lying in order to play on the sympathy of others is what people have a problem with in this case. Same if someone claims they have some disease and sets up a Gofundme...if they lie to play on the sympathy of others, it is worth the scorn of others just for lying, but it also hinders people with those actual issues to get the attention they might have otherwise.
So, now we're so concerned about honesty in the public realm?
talk about asinine. I don't disagree with you ... I think that is the motivation of these cammer's, they said as much.
I think that perhaps the energy of being upset about "dishonesty" might be better spent calling bullshit on the really dishonest claims made by ... oh, say CEOs, Presidents, Governors ... but, those are too big to tackle. Easier to harass some random woman.
It's curious that they didn't choose to harass a male homeless person ... mysogany, perhaps? Fear of physical reprisal, perhaps?
Again, what does it matter?? We choose to live in a Capitalist society. Selling water with bubbles in it for a profit ... some would call deceitful scamming.
The point is, it's a persons' own decision to do what they want with their own time, and another person's own decision on what to do with their own money.
If someone is panhandling daily for money they don't actually need, I feel sorry for them. Being them is probably punishment enough.
Since normal people don't do that, there probably is something wrong with her. Not all disabilities are visible and government assistance doesn't always cut it. Unless she is outright abusing a charity organization or doing it for malicious reasons (not enough context in the video), these "vigilantes" just come off as bullies to me. They think they're so tough intimidating this gangly woman. If she's doing something illegal and they're so worried about justice, they could go to the police.
Is it just me or does no one else know that people can have a newer car and still be homeless? I own a 2011 Camry and have for 4 years. It was a gift from a family member who wanted a new car and could afford to give away the older one. If I lost my job or had another bout of pneumonia, I'd be living in the damned thing.
I can't imagine a single good reason these guys give a fuck what this woman is doing. Who cares why she decided to panhandle? Who cares if people give her money or not? She's not stealing, she's accepting.
Fine, think panhandling is wrong, decide on an arbitrary line to draw for who it's okay for, but why in the hell would you commit yourself to chasing her around a McDonald's parking lot with a cameras in her face? They're bigger losers than she is.
Ok, that was pretty bad of her to do that, but you should never get into how much they're making out of a financial disability check, whether they're disabled or not. Bad on your part.
There are so many other injustices in the world which deserve our attention other than a lady asking people for money who may not need it as bad as a truly homeless person. Yes she is being fraudulent, but she isn't stealing anything.
[deleted] ยท -24 points ยท Posted at 18:36:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope.There is no excuse to be out here scamming when she could get a job and not abuse people's kindness. That's what people are upset about.Abusing the kindness of strangers when most people would just step over you and ignore you walking down the street.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:16:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's wrong with this? People who give her money believe they're helping her out. Both parties win - She provides people with the happy feeling of helping someone in need while she gets money. This is no different from using money to buy any other type of good/service.
It is dishonest. There are likely a number of factors that have led to her being in this position, but this is not really going to help her get out of her position at all. It is the same reason a lot of states require you to actively be looking for work when you start receiving welfare.
Voixoff ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 17:23:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You guys need to get a life rather that annoy random people
You ain't the Justice League. You are selfrightious asses
What do you know about her life ? She may need it.
She may be homeless and living in her car. She may be disabled.
Don't give her change if you don't feel like it, but don't expose her on the internet. What are you hopping, that she gets beaten by an angry mob next time ?
You have a wrapped sense of justice.
Whoooa ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 17:01:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever heard of mental illnesses..? They are just like any other illnesses, they need treatment. If you wanted to change things so badly (to even go harass this woman) you could try to actually help her.
Saved comment
Meltingteeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hello everyone, we've locked this video due to repeated inquiries or attempts at finding and spreading this person's personal information. This is a violation of Rule 3 as well as reddit's content policy. We greatly appreciate those of you who just came to comment or have a civil discussion.
SomethingIntangible ยท 202 points ยท Posted at 19:40:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yo that's either a brave move or a rookie move using your personal account to sticky a comment.
Meltingteeth ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:56:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can call it brave but fortunately I'm no stranger to posting high level comments on reddit.
pkoleary ยท 5067 points ยท Posted at 17:54:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the drive thru employee should've just given her ketchup packets. that usually solves everything.
This_Is_A_Robbery ยท 1597 points ยท Posted at 17:26:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man I gotta respect these people who come across a big pot of crazy and their first instinct is to stir like hell.
thisisjess12 ยท 7511 points ยท Posted at 17:46:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Homeless, hungry and my fiat doesn't even have Bluetooth capability"
IHoldSteady ยท 8086 points ยท Posted at 17:05:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see this lady almost every single day on my way to and from work.
Chair_tester ยท 7669 points ยท Posted at 18:09:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Next time you see her just pull up and start barking
WhipWing ยท 3995 points ยท Posted at 18:31:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't bark around me
StargateMunky101 ยท 4311 points ยท Posted at 18:12:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get a sign and sit next to her that reads "this woman isn't homeless, that's her car over there"
I will pay you to do that even though it's completely hypocritical of what I'm trying to achieve here.
Chance_Wylt ยท 1578 points ยท Posted at 18:17:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's completely hypocritical. One of these two people would be doing a public service. That's the one you'd be paying.
My_Name_Is_Declan ยท 217 points ยท Posted at 18:30:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On your way over tomorrow, please pretend to give her money, and instead shoot a water gun out the window while filming.
dbx99 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:29:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give her a dollar and tell her jEsus loves her
[deleted] ยท -35 points ยท Posted at 18:25:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[removed]
the_leprechauns_anus ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 18:35:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually assault.
Chris1671 ยท 8739 points ยท Posted at 17:02:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"can you tell me why they're doing this?"
Poor McDonald's lady.. She has no idea what's even going on
buck45osu ยท 3778 points ยท Posted at 18:33:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest, I've been in he situation (crazy lady tried to get me involved while working at Chick-fil-A) and I enjoyed telling the story to my coworkers 300x more than how much it annoyed me. If she got physical or really confrontational, she might have been in a different mood.
But you can see her start to giggle. She's thinking "man when Rick gets in here he ain't going to believe this story". Shes got conversation starters for a week now. I saw the drive through lady is the only winner here
Large_Dr_Pepper ยท 894 points ยท Posted at 18:34:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, I wish juicy stuff like that would happen while I'm at work. I love it when customers get all uppity. I don't care if they yell at me, insult me, whatever. I don't let it make me mad as long as I'm doing my job properly, I just find it entertaining.
TomBradysmom ยท 182 points ยท Posted at 18:39:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whats even worse was she asked the guy in the back of the store too, like he would know?!
Jim_Nills_Mustache ยท 5655 points ยท Posted at 16:42:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the point where I just couldn't hold in my laughter any more
TooShiftyForYou ยท 2309 points ยท Posted at 17:10:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was completely exposed and her mind was grasping for anything.
Castleprince ยท 1081 points ยท Posted at 18:24:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine was the guy singing "She works hard for the money". Lol
lnSerT_Creative_Name ยท 918 points ยท Posted at 17:41:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I was the guy behind the camera I would've just said "woof". Given ger reactions to other stuff he did, it'd be comical as hell.
Gregorofthehillpeopl ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 18:09:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would have started barking.
XIII-0 ยท 8102 points ยท Posted at 17:22:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That lady was like "I don't get paid enough for this shit"
oh-just-another-guy ยท 1513 points ยท Posted at 18:19:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, she is famous now :-)
the_leprechauns_anus ยท 146 points ยท Posted at 18:32:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was more like "Now is my chance to be what I've always dreamed of being, a psychologist"
twelvesteprevenge ยท 3023 points ยท Posted at 18:33:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is from my neighborhood in Richmond, VA. This lady has a reputation for being super aggressive: knocking on and pressing her sign up against people's windows, calling them out if they don't give her money, refusing the offer of a meal/food, beating on the dog she often has with her...
Suffice to say that I got a little chuckle out of these guys exposing her scam. Fuck her, her car's worth more money than mine is and I work my ass off!
MooseWithAKeyboard ยท 2283 points ยท Posted at 18:14:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see this same woman almost daily during my commute to work. She never hesitates to get up close and yell through your window. Her sign usually says something like "Homeless. Please help." I have never given her any money and now I'm glad.
EdisonKeys ยท 2718 points ยท Posted at 17:17:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do people still think it's illegal to film in public?....
Chaotic-Catastrophe ยท 2532 points ยท Posted at 18:01:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't like it = It's illegal
specfreq ยท 128 points ยท Posted at 18:24:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Yes 911? I have an emergency, there a man in the street with a gun!!"
"Did he threaten you?"
"No, but it's really scary!"
lovecooks ยท 983 points ยท Posted at 18:26:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right?! I was filming some lady and she called the cops on me. The cop told her that he was filming her too with his bodycam and that it's legal.
[deleted] ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 17:53:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't. It's just an empty scare tactic.
SolenoidSoldier ยท 133 points ยท Posted at 18:31:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not, but consider if you didn't do anything wrong and someone was following you around with a camera and saying they're going to post it on the internet. It's tough not to feel a little violated. Of course, we only ever see the videos done to people that deserve it, so no one really cares, but what if it was some creepy guy following around some attractive girls?
DarkLordKohan ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:46:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some places require consent but not all.
[deleted] ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 17:51:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
CaptainBrant ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:23:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is McDonald's considered public?
[deleted] ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 18:29:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
oh_livre ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 18:36:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So if the lady went inside mcdondalds, the camera couldn't follow? or they could unless/until management kicks them out?
murphysics ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:37:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not in PA, Google got into shit for streetview photographing people (they were on their property but visible from the street)
eliteKMA ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:24:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you publicly share the videos though? especially if the video with your face on it is moneytised by the uploader.
[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 18:26:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
halfascientist ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:35:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd that were the case, how would any television news media exist at all?
Chairboy ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:14:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In which country? This video was taken in the United States where filming in public is legal in all states to my knowledge, but I recognize that may not be true in your country.
myhihi1 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:33:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not necessarily illegal but it is kind of rude to film random people without their consent unless you know the person you're filming is doing something wrong that the public needs to see like this lady.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:49:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
ref_ ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:02:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
source?
thehappyheathen ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 18:10:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's not true. Photography doesn't work that way. The "art" is the photo and the photographer owns the intellectual property, the photo. It's the reason paparazzi exist. Even celebrities don't own their likeness. That alone should tell you everything you need to know. Photos belong to the photographer, not the subject.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
thehappyheathen ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:20:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, you don't need consent to broadcast someone's face on television. Haven't you ever seen B-roll of people walking down a random street? Do you think they went out and hunted each one of those people down and asked them for consent before running it on the news? Same for Times Square on New Year's or spring break. All those random couples kissing as the ball drops- no way did they each sign an agreement saying they could be broadcast around the world. They just went to Times Square for a party. Spring break is the same, some reporter out on a beach covered in attractive young people partying, they don't get consent from hundreds of people before airing that, and they don't blur their faces.
HitlerHistorian ยท -32 points ยท Posted at 17:47:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ik right? If a woman is wearing a skirt in public, I don't get why they get so mad when i take pics
sizz_lor ยท 7863 points ยท Posted at 17:42:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I gave her money and then she made fun of my job. I had a pizza topper on my car. She's a bitch and will literally walk up to your car and stare at you.
Iswearitsnotmine ยท 4162 points ยท Posted at 18:14:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait. After you gave her money, she made fun of you? WTF?
sizz_lor ยท 5009 points ยท Posted at 18:19:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. She asked how much money I made and proceeded to tell me that it wasn't very much, then she laughed and walked away with the change I handed to her. Lol.
Iswearitsnotmine ยท 2789 points ยท Posted at 18:22:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's unreal and I'm sorry you had to experience that. Meanwhile, there are probably people out there begging for money that really are homeless and we don't give it to them because of people like this lady.
sizz_lor ยท 1507 points ยท Posted at 18:30:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had the suspicion that she was not really homeless. I just gave her money so she would get the hell away from me. She was way too chipper and excited like she was getting pleasure out of scamming people. plus i've seen her walking up that same road talking on a cell phone.
spankymuffin ยท 182 points ยท Posted at 18:27:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she is really fucked up in the head and dependent on people to make a living. That's a very strange thing to say and do if she is indeed a con-artist playing a part.
Spicy-Grandma ยท 636 points ยท Posted at 18:26:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should record her and piss her off and expose her. Tell her she's already viral lol
[deleted] ยท 240 points ยท Posted at 18:33:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
let her stare into your phone's camera and bark at her.
dbx99 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:30:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well now you know what to do.
My_Name_Is_Declan ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 18:31:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
buy a water gun
johnnyshortdick123 ยท 16860 points ยท Posted at 16:31:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lady: (to McDonald's Drive Through worker") "Why are they doing this?"
McDonald's Worker at Window: "....Uhhhh why don't you ask THEM?"
dogofpavlov ยท 1792 points ยท Posted at 17:12:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously WTF... this lady just assumes ANYONE with a name tag or employee uniform somehow has the authority to help her
[deleted] ยท 1354 points ยท Posted at 17:28:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
yamiatworky ยท 1157 points ยท Posted at 17:52:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might be fake homeless... but has real issues.
[deleted] ยท 375 points ยท Posted at 18:16:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
TravelingT ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 18:35:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in the early 2000s I was in Santa Monica and I saw a homeless man ( not like lady in this video, full rags and very rough looking) unlock a brand new silver mercedes-benz and drive away....
Culvey60 ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 18:36:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are quite a few people who do it. Panhandlers can make a shit ton of money doing it, and you know full and well they are not reporting it on their taxes.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/scammer-claims-he-pulls-in-100k-a-year-panhandling/
This guy can make 100k take home in a year by panhandling. Put that into perspective. In a state with no income tax, a person would have to make about 128k to make a take home of 100k after taxes, social security, and Medicaid/Medicare taxes came out.
This guy likely reports no taxes, probably gets government assistance... AND brings home 100k a year.
dick_van_weiner ยท -42 points ยท Posted at 18:04:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A car isn't a home. Maybe the car doesn't even run and that's where she lives. What is she going to do? Tell a few random guys and all of the internet that she lives in that SUV?
Durzio ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 18:07:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she's willing to beg for money, why not? She's willing to tell anyone driving down the street that she's homeless, why not tell people who could actually get her attention. The internet occasionally does nice things.
But that's a nice new fiat. She's clearly got the money.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:16:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because she's illegally parked.
Durzio ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:17:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure I'm getting your point
chillphil420 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 18:23:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if it didn't run she would get towed from the mcdonalds parking lot at some point, probably sooner than later
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 18:29:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sell the car and have enough money for rent for a year.... come on. Look at that thing. It looks brand new.
HomeStallone ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:38:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm starting to believe she has a disability....
PM_ur_Rump ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:38:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She ain't wrong.
ReasoningButToErr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:25:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The 'mental' kind.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:33:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being retarded is a kind of disability, although I would assume with that disability, you wouldn't be able to drive.
dwsinpdx ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 17:42:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Butterface disease.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:57:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You really think that's a nice body?
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:51:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kinda jumping to conclusions there
mognoj ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:55:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Evidence of her never having worn a name tag herself, and hence, being oblivious to the lack of authoritative powers said name tag imbues on the wearer.
[deleted] ยท 9071 points ยท Posted at 16:44:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When getting confronted the best course of action is to ask the drive thru staff for advice.
lutinopat ยท 2779 points ยท Posted at 17:45:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ja Rule wasn't available.
Shyguy8413 ยท 787 points ยท Posted at 18:27:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HELP ME MAKE SENSE OF ALL THIS
n0th1ng_r3al ยท 509 points ยท Posted at 18:33:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somebody get Ja Rule on the phone so he can make sense of all this!
NormalMacdonald ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 18:23:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ol boy hiding under a deeeeeeeeeeeep rock rn
Ramy_ ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 18:32:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't want to dance I'm scared to death
nuttin2fear ยท 702 points ยท Posted at 17:35:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The best LPT is always in the comments.
pheonix2OO ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:10:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't be surprised if she is mod of lifeprotips, getmotivated and upliftingnews.
ripeart ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:27:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You DON'T bark around me.
30-xv ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:30:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's motivating, thanks i have better life now.
Ravenman2423 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:25:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The best comment is always in the comments
khanjar_alllah ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:33:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The underrated comment is always in the comments
yamiatworky ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:52:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about you but I just skip the therapy sessions and go straight to the drive through.
motions2u2wipemyass ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:30:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think you could find any people who give less of a shit what you got going on than drive-thru staff.
Tman101010 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:02:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How much money have you made of that username?
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:12:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
70ish dollars. Some Redditors are generous. But I don't need the money anymore (I guess I never really did) so I'm thinking of deleting this account and starting another.
mzoltek ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:21:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If asking them fails, be sure to confront the guy taking out the trash.
Cats_say_Moo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:22:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe if their ice cream machine wasn't broken their wouldn't be a problem.
ohmyfsm ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:27:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those people don't get paid nearly enough to deal with this shit.
what_a_bug ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:23:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the event of an emergency, seen your nearest McDonald's and ask the staffโfor further instruction.
cubanjew ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:27:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love how this woman is acting like she's somehow been wronged.
derpderp5000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:31:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SOMEONE GET JA RULE ON THE PHONE
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get the reference. Please explain?
BasedBrexitBroker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:33:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that is why Im currently serving concurrent life sentences.
BeefArtistBob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:35:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think she was so caught off guard she temporarily lost her mind.
TaffyFlash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*aks them
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:08:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But don't axe them.
Ask_me_4_a_story ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats the second dumbest thing Ive seen in the McDonalds drive thru line.
Your honor, I give you exhibit A: She say she ARE the manager
DjentRiffication ยท 1928 points ยท Posted at 17:13:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats the thing that was really odd to me. Going around to random people asking them what was going on... like how the fuck should they know, you just approached them while they were minding their own business. That and the "Somebody gonna kill you" comments.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 706 points ยท Posted at 17:36:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At that point, she's making threats.
DivideByZeroDefined ยท 982 points ยท Posted at 17:40:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's hoping for a 'white knight' I bet
topwheeler3 ยท 701 points ยท Posted at 18:01:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course she is. Why else would she go up to that big dude taking the trash out... she was hoping somebody would step in and just beat them up for no reason.
aznsensation8 ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 18:26:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a winning bet all day.
HippoPotato ยท 116 points ยท Posted at 18:11:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the correct answer.
This really should be x-posted to /r/pussypassdenied
pm_me_ur_CLEAN_anus ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 18:16:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too bad they were all black.
zamoht1216 ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 18:32:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dark Knights
ipresident ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:11:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cx
nahumatwork ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 18:24:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think she was trying to avoid going to her car so that they wouldn't get it on video. She was hoping going to other people would stop their filming. That's my two cents.
BeeQueenbee60 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:32:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're right.
truemeliorist ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:37:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, it gives me a feeling the woman isn't 100% right in the head. Not just in the "I'm a con artist" kind of way, but in the "I'm out of touch with reality and not 100% functional in society" kind of way.
Hash43 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:09:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminded me of my round of golf yesterday. I was sitting in the club house getting a hot dog with my group when some random guy came in wearing a star wars shirt and walked up to us and asked "where is Dylan?", like he expected every single person on the golf course at any given time knew who Dylan was. When we told him we have no clue who that is he looked shocked.
[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 18:34:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hardly odd. She is attempting to be deceitful and manipulative. If she poses the question "what are these people doing to me" to a stranger, she expects them to assume that since they are men and shes a woman that she is under some type of sexual assault.
If the stranger jumps to this conclusion on their own, then they are more likely to run with it. As a professional con artist/liar/manipulator this woman understands this perfectly.
I'm honestly surprised she didn't solicit more dialtone 'white knights' to pick a fight with these dudes. It would have worked in 2012 I bet. Clearly the "I'm a victim!" card is being used up to the point of no-effect.
Welcome to 2017 bitch - enough people have watched this shit happen on the internet that now logic is prevailing.
drunkenbrawler ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:02:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Luckily for you I am a certified internet armchair psychologist and I can explain this behaviour by a bloated sense of entitlement. This lady thinks she is the shits so she can demand anyone to explain to her whatever she wants. And she gets so pissed off when her wishes don't come true that she resorts to threats of violence and murder. In her mind any demands she makes are perfectly reasonable. Nah, I don't know. But that could be one explanation.
alltheacro ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:26:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a tactic abusive people use - gaslighting. You make the other person think they're being unreasonable or going crazy.
In this case, they do it by leveraging their power, which is that nobody wants confrontation or violence in public. They act a bit wild, and frame their question such that lack of reply implies agreement. "Does anyone think this stupid ass is right?!" and then when there's silence: "See, everyone thinks you're wrong."
You see this sort of poker game / social game of 'chicken' all the time in social groups. Pay particular attention when someone raises an objection to someone who is quite popular, and if you want, confront them: "no, the reason nobody is speaking up is because they don't want to piss you off."
Now they look like a bully, and the group realizes they're being manipulated. I think this'll only really work if you're sorta mid-tier social-standing-wise.
ASK_IF_IM_PENGUIN ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:42:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think its to try to divert attention. Its as if she's saying look, no-one knows what you're talking about, you must be the mad man.
However, and I hate to be that guy, it is possible to own a relatively recent vehicle but be unable to make ends meet including paying off that vehicle and any rent or mortgage you may have. She may not be taking the piss but be a bit misguided and still stressed and desperate.
Of course, she may be a freeloading bitch, but it's worth considering other possibilities too.
TooShiftyForYou ยท 1086 points ยท Posted at 16:55:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
McDonald's lady is just like "Not my problem."
hdsgdsagdsaggdsagsda ยท 805 points ยท Posted at 17:37:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the look the mcdonald's lady gives at 1:33 after the dude explains what the begging woman does is hilarious.
[deleted] ยท 200 points ยท Posted at 17:53:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that was the best part of the video
gisbo43 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:35:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sure was
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:53:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that was the best part of the video
gisbo43 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:35:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sure was
absolutelybacon ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:35:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surely it was.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 228 points ยท Posted at 17:38:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
McDs lady like "Not my problem" but you know she's laughing her ass off inside at the sheer absurdity.
Psychedellyfish ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 18:28:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh dude it's these kinds of things that keep you sane in the food industry.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:37:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like the lady who flipped out on me for touching her salad at a nice lunch spot? That was a good one. Like lady, if you want tongs and plastic gloves, go to Subway. I'm the cook, I'm gonna touch your food. There's a reason for handwashing protocols. Entertaining as all hell though when people freak out and you're like "whatevs, I'm getting paid."
FootofGod ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:58:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Please leave, all of you. Don't know, don't care."
i_stay_turnt ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 17:48:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That McDonald's worker was clearly lying to her. That McDonald's worker clearly holds the answers to all of the universe's secrets. She has the capability of seeing into forever, past and future but that selfish McDonald's employee is being selfish by not sharing the information that is asked of her.
Travis_Healy ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:22:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
girl in McDonalds working a min wage job like a respectable human being, and this trash beggar expects her to come to her rescue. Step off, bitch!
johnny_mclovin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:13:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, that's what I was thinking.... Why would you ask her that? She doesn't know
StormRider2407 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:34:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I assume she was doing it to get people on her side, like, "look at these weirdos filming me! I'm innocent, I'm doing nothing wrong, help me." And then when that doesn't work, she moves on to someone else who didn't hear the first exchange to try and get them to make them stop so she doesn't have to do anything on camera.
antigravitytapes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:59:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol "I just work here..."
nespid0 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:39:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm homeless, can I have a packet of ketchup? There, now I'm a customer!"
Z0di ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:57:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's pretending like she's a victim.
spankymuffin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:06:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that was kind of weird. She was just by her car. You'd think she'd just speed on out of there. What the fuck can McDonalds do, other than call the police? Perhaps she wanted McDonalds to trespass the guys from the property, so she could keep doing her thing.
waynehell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:18:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
better get Ja Rule in on this shit
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:24:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Would you like fries with this consultation?"
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:25:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
InternetCommentsAI ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:12:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Minimum wage I don't give a fuck attitude.
DefconDelta88 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:13:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That drive thru employee had on the expression of "Oh lawdy I do not get paid enough to deal with your dumb ass." As if this person is going to A: have any power to fix your problem, B: holds knowledge you do not regarding the situation, and C: gives a fuck.
This woman is an idiot.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She didnt say that...
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
RedKetchum ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:15:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you, Leela
paladipus ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think they said "why don't you AXE them"
[deleted] ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 17:28:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
DisturbinglyHonest ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 17:59:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
romyori ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 17:30:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ftfy
GoodBull1748 ยท 812 points ยท Posted at 18:02:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First homeless woman I've ever seen in lulu lemon leggings and a shirt from her gym
[deleted] ยท 830 points ยท Posted at 17:35:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love the mcdonalds lady. So calm and realistic like "idk what you want me to do?"
murphSTi ยท 489 points ยท Posted at 17:13:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This lady is always on broad st. next to my house--she's aggressive as hell and it's so uncomfortable driving up next to her. Glad she got caught.
iwiggums ยท 17847 points ยท Posted at 16:06:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, better get the drive thru worker involved! They'll lay down the hammer!
JohnCavil ยท 2568 points ยท Posted at 16:39:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was so strange, she was acting like a literal child just walking up to the nearest adult. Some McD employee doesn't care about your problem or have any sort of authority.
I think you stop looking at fast food workers as figures of authority around age 12.
smallbluetext ยท 651 points ยท Posted at 16:52:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of them are half her age too. Lady is a big child.
randCN ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:59:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you exposed her scam would she die?
ZippidieDooDah ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:36:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It would be extremely painful
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:35:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think she was doing some kind of fetish shit tbh or she's has a drug habit. She looked rough
PentatonicTriangle ยท 168 points ยท Posted at 16:54:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's an insult to children. Maybe she had a mental disability?
Lichius ยท 221 points ยท Posted at 17:29:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's an insult to mentally disabled people. Maybe her brain is controlled by parasitic space worms?
sixteenmiles ยท 133 points ยท Posted at 17:37:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's an insult to brains. Maybe this woman is a single cell organism.
ultrahobbs ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:46:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's an insult to single cell organisms. Maybe this woman is a rock
PentatonicTriangle ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 17:48:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well... I guess we've hit rock bottom.....
Rioraku ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:03:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's an insult to rocks and/or bottoms actually.
VladimirPootietang ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:08:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
true, both the rock and an experienced power bottom are better than this woman. shes just shit
Portmanteau_that ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:07:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WE NEED TO GO DEEPER
QuasarSandwich ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:08:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Time for OP's mum to shine...
vito1221 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:14:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Feel free to go deeper into the bottoms.
MinecraftNightcrawle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:12:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's an insult to anything deeper, maybe this woman is a man.
JimmyBVlogz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:04:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HAHAHAHAHAHAH... I'm at work dying over this one!
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:06:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's an insult to Dwayne Johnson maybe this woman is the embodiment of Lindsay Logan's career post Mean Girls
Bizoza9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't matter what you think
bpitlik1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:52:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Parasitic space worm here. We prefer more suitable hosts than this batshit insane woman
ShirtlessGirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ผ Previously on brain dead...
dick_van_weiner ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:01:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well she said she had a disability...
Caboozog ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:43:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She literally will take anyone standing around but wont call the police cause she knows shes in the wrong.
chris9321 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:29:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I need an adult!"
tomdarch ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:12:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure people have called her on her crap in the past, and it hasn't taken much to make them (aka "the problem") go away. The pseudo-threat of "I'm going to make a scene" or "I'm going to get others involved and complain about you" was enough to get them to buzz off so she could go back to her schtick. This time it didn't work.
The_UnApologist ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:29:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because she's used to having somebody else deal with her problems in life. It's why she's out begging for money and then hassling McDonalds workers instead of taking charge of whatever situation she's in and trying to change it.
TheForgottenOne_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:53:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was hoping to scare them off. She knew if she called the cops it could end really badly for her.
slurpeee76 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:25:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She most likely has a mental illness. I actually feel a little bad for her. It's would be humiliating to most people to do what she is doing - there must be something else motivating her. People do not have to give her money - in fact, people probably shouldn't be giving the homeless money if there is a decent safety net in place in the community.
the_leprechauns_anus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:16:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She is hoping that the person will assume that because she is a woman she is being harassed and victimized.
8styx8 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:33:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[]
vito1221 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not at the drive through, not after paying/before getting. Small window of McDonald's Employee->President->Vice President->etc
vwzwv ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:22:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Criminal women always involve the nearest stranger and false accuse when discovered. 'McDonalds worker, this man is hurting me' 'Yes mam, I've called the police, they will dispose of him shortly and I will stand by your side.' Those damn abusive men just keep hurting all the princesses.
vinylsavings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe that's her disability?
blamethestarfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
maybe that's her disability
PoopEndeavor ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:02:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Usually an adult acting like a child is mentally ill or not in a healthy state of mind. So let's all just insult her without finding out more info about the situation. Sounds like reddit.
JohnCavil ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:05:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds more like reddit to blame everything on mental illness and not on people being shitty.
Either way I don't know and I don't care. If she's homeless she's not going to be reading my comment, and calling her behavior childlike is a pretty soft insult.
theneedfull ยท 18747 points ยท Posted at 16:38:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone knows it goes President -> Vice President -> Speaker of the House -> Random McDonalds employee.
Justicles13 ยท 3263 points ยท Posted at 16:43:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Basic knowledge. Surprised it still has to be explained
30-xv ยท 1729 points ยท Posted at 16:50:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some of us weren't blessed with a Harvard scholarship.
SkyezOpen ยท 1881 points ยท Posted at 17:00:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? I had to pay my way through Harvard the old fashioned way.
With a trust fund.
reticulatedtampon ยท 848 points ยท Posted at 17:18:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got in because Dad's old friend is a hot shot burger flipper in Boston now. Sometimes it's good to know people.
[deleted] ยท 642 points ยท Posted at 17:22:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
FanofWhiskey ยท 501 points ยท Posted at 17:28:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*golden spatula
plzdontsplodeme ยท 401 points ยท Posted at 17:48:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*pineapple under the sea
PM_ME_UR_PINEAPPLE ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:04:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:15:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
BassAddictJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:17:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AND MY CHECKBOOK
MagicZombieCarpenter ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:52:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You went through the Wendy's training video as well?
๐ถMeat's got grain, just like wood. Lay it down straight like ya know ya should๐ถ
Booblicle ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:21:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Golden nugget*
MonkiChowder ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:49:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A silver "bendy" straw.
uncertainusurper ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 17:21:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm so from burgers to burgers...
lurker2918 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:55:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
E
enotsdirk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:51:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*aspergers
ftfy
WARNING_im_a_Prick ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:47:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got a Pepsico scholarship after my mom blew the extra-crispy Colonel behind a Kroger.
QuasarSandwich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It really is true what they say: it's not what you serve, it's whom you serve.
theforerunner343 ยท 475 points ยท Posted at 17:15:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recall a post about a guy who paid his own way through harvard or princeton or somesuch university by working in Alaska and coming back and using the money he made while in Alaska to pay for school and minimized the rest of his expense by living out of a van on campus and eating only rice and beans which he cooked using a camping stove inside his van.
Edit: Since people are whining that I made this up, I've done the work for you and found a source. I didn't get the facts quite right, but here it is: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/14/education/edlife/ken-ilgunas-lives-in-a-van-while-a-graduate-student-at-duke-university.html
davydooks ยท 252 points ยท Posted at 17:19:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds awful
[deleted] ยท 350 points ยท Posted at 17:25:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the American dream.
MisfortunateFox ยท 204 points ยท Posted at 17:51:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds awful
Cheeseand0nions ยท 182 points ยท Posted at 18:00:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are both right. The American Dream comes with flea bites and dysentery. Always has.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:11:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
deleted What is this?
ThingsThatAreBlue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds awful.
Uncle_Rabbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You think it sounds awful? Just wait till you smell it!
uncertaintyman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds aweful
broadcasthenet ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:20:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
American dream is called a dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.
Ewaninho ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:53:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the American dream.
IWantAnAffliction ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:03:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called The American Dream because you'd have to be asleep to believe it.
ItsYouNotMe707 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:53:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yea for immigrants, spoiled americans would never try that hard t be successful.
ndpugs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:58:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until you have very little debt, and a Harvard degree.
davydooks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess. It'd be cool if we lived in a society that didn't make you torture yourself for 4 years in order to have a shot at success though.
Coopersma ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Enjoying your college years instead of working and sacrificing comes at a price.
davydooks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but there's a whole spectrum of "work and sacrifice" between A) fucking off and doing nothing and B) doing what this guy did.
ndpugs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If he went to apply anywhere, then told that story. It's a strong chance he had a better possibility at getting a job. I'd hire someone with that kind of drive and motivation.
TeriusRose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is not really a reason that you can't both enjoy your time in college and get your work done. It doesn't have to be a binary choice.
Not exactly the same thing, but it reminds me of those people that brag about never getting any sleep, working through vacations and missing a bunch of family events so that in 30 years they can enjoy their lives.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:41:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have lived in a van and traveled to Alaska on a minimal budget. It's better than many people's "successful" lives if you do it right.
davydooks ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:57:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, that part sounded pretty cool. The living in your van, eating pan cooked beans and rice for 4 years instead of enjoying your college years was the part that sounded awful.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:03:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that was part of it. I drove to Alaska and back, then lived in a van for a few years. It was awesome. Had lots of good friends, a driveway to park in, low overhead...
And that was after college. I wish I had a van then. I was sleeping in a car, or if I was lucky, my dad's Jeep. It was easier and cheaper than commuting from home to just sleep in the lot most days, since I had a gruelling round-the-clock schedule.
Nixed-cs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It does sound awful, but respect if true.
adzik1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least he is not $200k in debt at the end
JerryMau5 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:25:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going through a couple years of awful for a lifetime of luxurious living seem worth it.
gaysmutwriter ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:49:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the lie they feed you to take your money. A "good" college doesn't mean success, it's what you do with it.
edit: lol 2 bitter students downvoted me for telling the truth.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:00:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A "good" college increases your chances of networking with the "right" people, which absolutely can affect your chances of success.
EllisDee_4Doyin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:39:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except you can go to Harvard and not be guaranteed luxurious living. Like school doesn't automatically dictate that you'll ball out on your job out of College, right?
davydooks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:56:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I came to say. Not to mention you're sacrificing what, for many, are the greatest years of their lives, for a shot at some dream that may or may not happen.
Just___Dave ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:38:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you guys think someone brave, resourceful, and self-sufficient enough to work in alaska and live out of a van, and parlay that into graduating from an ivy league school with little or no debt, can't figure out how to become successful?
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:58:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pride. Hard work. Sacrifice. Self-reliance.
Yea, it sounds horrible. If you're a lazy, pampered, soft, entitled, greedy loser.
That guy is worth 1,000 of you.
Uncle_Rabbit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:14:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That guy sounds like he is tougher than most, and had the tenacity to stick to his plan. Most people I know wouldn't even walk a city block if you told them there was a million dollars in it for them.
davydooks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You must be very pleasant in person...
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:17:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"The sting in any rebuke is the truth" ~Ben Franklin
Seems like my comment hit you close to home
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:09:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. Ever heard of puncutation?
4cranch ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:20:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better than being a bum taking handouts when you're fully capable!
davydooks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So it's either eat beans and rice while living out of a van for 4 years or your a bum taking handouts?
Huh, TIL...
Just___Dave ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:35:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, getting out of Harvard without student loans, poor bastard.
Semirgy ยท 241 points ยท Posted at 17:41:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Harvard/Princeton has extremely generous financial aid policies. If your family earns less than ~$80k a year, you pay $0 to attend. Even if your family earns ~$150k a year your expected contribution is something like $15k, which makes it on par with a cheap state school.
If this guy was eating rice & beans out of a van, it's either because his family makes good money and is cheap or... well he really likes rice & beans.
brown-bean-water ยท 212 points ยท Posted at 17:50:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL I could've gone to Harvard or Princeton for free.
fuckwhoyouknow ยท 229 points ยท Posted at 17:53:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You still gotta get in though
Semirgy ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:09:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a common misconception that Harvard/Princeton/Yale etc. are only for the super rich. Hell, even if you pay the sticker price, Harvard is still cheaper than USC and has more generous financial aid.
cgio0 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:19:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, and you know you will have a job after college. I know of a lot of schools that let almost everyone in and charge 30k a year. So kids go get straight C's or B's and can't find a job and are living at home with student loan debt
I_not_Jofish ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:02:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The reason they're able to do it is because mostly rich kids get in due to doing better in school,so good colleges make it easy to go if you're poor, the hard part is getting accepted
broadcasthenet ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 18:23:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of rich kids get in even if they don't do better in school. Power and connections go a long way. If you don't believe me hear it from rich kids themselves.
Evil_Garen ยท 149 points ยท Posted at 17:42:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Twist is he majored in Philosophy so still lives in the van to this day....
kevingattaca ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:02:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No the twist is that he's now in hospital with his rice and beans diet !? ...Eck :(
Evil_Garen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:39:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who are you M. Night?????
Limjucas328 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That'd better than a ton of people I know
ThisBastard ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 17:27:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds better than the dorms
WARNING_im_a_Prick ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:48:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Yer gonna be eatin plenty of rice and beans when yer livin in a VAN down by the Harvard!"
-Michael Scott
stephqerry ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've known people who fished in Alaska part of the year and made bank to go to state university.
I know a famous dude who lived in a van at Duke http://www.kenilgunas.com/
It's not surprising at all that a Harvard or Princeton student might fish in Alaska and dwell in a van to afford it.
mlvisby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:57:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about ramen? Cheapest and tastier than rice and beans. Smells better too.
crashddr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:21:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might taste better, but beans will keep you relatively healthier with less sodium.
mlvisby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, I know I am probably close to a heart attack but nothing yet.
yzlautum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The guy just wanted some bs sympathy. Ivy League schools have insane financial help for poor people. Most poor people go to school for free there because they want them there.
Dumpythewhale ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother works on the north slope. They stay out their in like 2-3 week shifts generally I believe or at least he does. They pay a ton. He said it's not even too hard (granted it's summer now). He said like 70 percent of it the work is sitting in a truck in case you have to go fix or move something. He said they pay a ton.
Mastasliz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:50:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thats how I live the sweet bean dream
olmikeyy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:50:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah just go ahead and neglect to mention where he parked that van... (hint:H2O)
acxyzzy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy had a job at google and lived in a box truck: https://www.inc.com/bill-murphy-jr/meet-the-google-employee-living-in-a-truck-in-the-parking-lot.html
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doubt it was Harvard. You're obviously unfamiliar with the saying "ya can't pahk ya cah in Havahd Yard." Plus Harvard is tuition-free for low-income students.
Rasputain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Living in a van, down by the river?
The_Caged_Rage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But how was his roommate?
Monorail5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back in the 80's you could make $30,000 fishing in alaska for 3 months, rent+tuition+food+books was probably about $20,000 at state U. Never did it though, super hard/dangerous work obviously.
kevingattaca ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh thanks for the link or proof there of this smart/hard working guy!!!....buddy !?
I seem to remember that I've got a 6.3 inch penis !? ( For proof I'd direct you to the local STD clinic ... They ALL know me down there !?
theforerunner343 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I obviously have much to gain by making up a barely interesting story about an old reddit post. You seem like a smart person, I bet you could find it if you know where the search bar is.
HellaBrainCells ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:58:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked my ass off to get a small $1million dollar loan from my father
MkaisodL ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:16:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd rather go for a little walk
uncertainusurper ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:21:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shaky camera work but kind of tranquil
Mr_Industrial ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to beg for money on the street to get through Harvard.
ghsghsghs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Harvard will pay the way of any poor person who gets in.
https://nonprofitquarterly.org/2013/11/08/harvard-initiative-to-attract-low-income-students-includes-free-tuition/
The notion that you have to be rich to go to Harvard comes from so many people lying about how they got into Harvard but didn't go because it was too much money.
A lot of the people I met at Harvard were not wealthy when they attended.
DB473 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But I thought the old fashioned way was pretending to be homeless and beg for money to fund your education?
4realzbruh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:08:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Harvard has a huge endowment (hurr hurr). No one from a family making less than $150k pays to go to Harvard. If they can get admitted that is.
DigdigdigThroughTime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents couldn't afford some fancy scholarship.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People squat and do the same thing in Harvard. Sucks when someone can make more money sitting hanging out in the square than someone working a full day.
emmsix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, don't ask me, HE'S the one with the 2.0 grade point average!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or an employment opportunity at McDonald's
Nikwoj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Harvard accepts a higher percentage of applications than McDonald's. They're top people
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Harvard are having black-only graduation events now, cant wait to see the media reacts
Blackwolfhunter ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:01:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really need information in a YouTube format with lots of infographics, metaphors, and a British man in his late 30s to explain anything to me nowadays.
TtheDuke ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If only pops would give me that small loan for a million dollars I'd get the edumacation I always wanted
arrow74 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's right there in Article 5 Section 3 of the Constitution
Trumps_DNM_Account ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's how Pence became VP
armored-dinnerjacket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you're barking up the wrong tree.
you're gonna get killed
NotABMWDriver ยท 1121 points ยท Posted at 16:54:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, out of all of them, the McDonald's employee handled it best.
Shows the kind of poise you develop after dealing with crap customers all day long.
Edit: Yes, she could just be a good person too. I get it.
xiroir ยท 562 points ยท Posted at 17:28:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
don't take it away from the woman, it's not her Mc donald's job that made her act so well. she's just a good person.
Edit; to be clear i just wanted to point out it is better to compliment a person rather than something else.
[deleted] ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 17:52:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
xiroir ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:00:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mclady tips fedora
Peanuttttttt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:42:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
can we skip to the random McD's employ when the "I" word happens?
Peanuttttttt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pretty please??
babsa90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nature vs. nurture debate
xiroir ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:51:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my comment was to compliment the woman, not the position she is in. nature vs nurture has nothing to do with it. either her macdonalds job is a fraction of the reason or it is not at all. there are a lot of nature/nurture things that went on in her life to make her the person she is now. it's not the crux of what i wanted to say.
babsa90 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:03:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People learn from their jobs all the time, and dealing with hundreds of customers every day will definitely teach somehow how to handle a lot more social interactions with strangers than they would if they were working an office job or whatever else. I don't know if you worked a customer service job, but I have definitely felt a lot more comfortable with interacting with people after a while of working at a grocery store. Saying that she probably developed those skills from having to deal with shitty people is not taking away from her at all, there's plenty of ways someone could have dealt with that situation. Some people I worked with in customer service were complete idiots and would probably have said something stupid or felt compelled to seek someone else to deal with the problem because they were overwhelmed by the situation. So, no, I don't think that it's taking away from her at all when someone says she has learned from her job experience. Humans learn all throughout life, it's not just something that happens in your formative years. I was being tongue-in-cheek with my original reply insinuating that you must not believe people are capable of learning and they are just inherently born with their abilities/personality.
Reddit_Rule_Bot ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:17:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol I cannot believe you guys are actually arguing about this. Every single sentence, every letter and every punctuation point has to perfectly align with a redditor's point of view, or else they will inevitably list all the reasons why they are right and their interlocutor is blind and ignorant.
It's like watching a really annoying nature documentary.
Pr0go ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
eek barba durkle.. someone's gonna get laid in college
willyoupleaseSTFU ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:50:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She may be, she may not be. Hard to tell from that 10 second interaction.
xiroir ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:58:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the video gives you a lot of information about her. she's friendly in a wierd situation, does not blame anyone or mingles with the situation. she just calmly and rationally talks about this problem. that shows a lot of maturity/social skills/friendly disposition. she could have just as easily told them to leave the premise and leave, but she did not. she tried to DE-escalate the problem aswel. i probably explained it poorly, but i just wanted to note that it is better to compliment a person. she handled it well and the person should be getting the compliment.
[deleted] ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 17:26:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She is still clocked in so that I totally give a fuck is still in full swing.
NickHoman4 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:06:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to comment this. As someone who works in service I was continuously impressed by her responses.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:23:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
chris9321 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:28:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's lovin' it?
Dqueezy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she'll head to a parking lot where she'll be the king.
JimmyBVlogz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:01:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
high fives Agreed!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:58:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, all Mac Shack employees show that poise /s
Half of those motherfuckers look like they want to punch you, even if you're only talking to them because they forgot half of your order.
bakdom146 ยท 418 points ยท Posted at 17:03:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's why you'll never see the POTUS, VPOTUS, Speaker and a random MD's employee all in the same room at the same time. Gotta have a contingency if something goes down.
tolandruth ยท 157 points ยท Posted at 17:19:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why that show designated survivor bothered me so much Jack Bauer gets job of president over a random McDonald's manager such a fake show.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plz stop I loved that show and they skewered it with a two month hiatus and a rushed season finale
ILoveToiletpaper ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:01:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your mixing 2 series, he is jack bauer in 24, kirkman in designated survivor.
But the reason why he became president is because his son saw all the numbers and knew how the past, the present and the future are all connected.
tolandruth ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:03:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you are confusing him with keifer Sutherland the country singer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SAD!
The_Caged_Rage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So that's why Clinton liked Burger King, less detail needed.
bigbeaudelindeau ยท 224 points ยท Posted at 17:02:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
McDonalds employees get paid shit but they do have a license to kill.
walrusdoom ยท 367 points ยท Posted at 17:10:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, parents were gunned down by McDonalds managers in the Second Burger King War.
uncertainusurper ยท 133 points ยท Posted at 17:23:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that was The Great Cheeseburger Rebellion of 1931
dementorpoop ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:14:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it was the French Fry Revolution of 1948
walrusdoom ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:34:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My great uncle was killed in that.
Cockwombles ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 17:24:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did Taco Bell win the franchise war anyway, ridiculous.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 17:42:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gave everyone else dysentery until they drowned in their own trenches.
Odin02 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:49:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The bodies were pulled out and stacked like sandbags by the survivors.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:58:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And thus was the Naked Human Chalupa created.
uncertainusurper ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:22:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Airdrop me some fire sauce!
TheLastHaggis ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:58:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know what kind of revisionist propaganda shit this is, but there's a reason there's a burger KING. He won all the burger wars.
Christ, what do they teach in history these days?
LethalFortune ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:40:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some say their victory involved the three shells
caraccount11 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:01:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some say that citizens of the King's royal city are still experiencing shell-shock to this day.
vito1221 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:11:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Their alliance with KFC. Everybody knows that.
Sovereign1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:39:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the future every restaurant is a Taco Bell
ShippyWaffles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:01:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's bogus, fake news, propaganda. The government just wants you to believe they did. Sad!
Booblicle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They have them the finger... oh wait that's Wendy's
randompasta ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:43:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That means you're Batman and the Hamburgler is the Joker.
metompkin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:24:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IMPEACH MAYOR McCHEESE!
aznsensation8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:29:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read that as ground down like into meat patties.
Trump_with_dildos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did that scar you for life? Do you dress up as Wendy and roam the streets at night fighting crime in your Wendymobile?
metalflygon08 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:36:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
Lillipout ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 16:56:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have to respect the uniform.
sierra120 ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 16:58:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude you messed up that order. Everyone knows it goes President -> Vice President -> United Airlines Employee-> Speaker of the House -> Random McDonalds employee.
SuckerFreeCity ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:18:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
President -> Vice President ->
United Airlines EmployeeFederal Airport Security-> Speaker of the House -> Random McDonalds employee.shanemcoyle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:00:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
President -> Vice President -> United Airlines Employee Jam -> Federal Airport Security -> Scarlet -> Fire -> Speaker of the House -> Drums -> Space -> Random McDonalds employee (acoustic encore).
Source: SBD -> DAT -> FLAC
JimmyBVlogz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speaker of the House may even be lower then the Mcdonalds employee at this day and age...LOL
StareInTheMirror ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine kidnapping paul ryan, face-offing some sort of asian into him, just to have him dragged off a plane
MisterInternational ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He works drive-thru. Of course he fucked up the order.
thisjetlife ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:17:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Orrin Hatch is gonna be pissed.
rmundon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:28:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The official Designated Survivor
CaptainMudwhistle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:35:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't the next in line be Mayor McCheese? We need experienced leadership in a crisis.
universal_rehearsal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:37:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to point your attn to article 54 , section 54:B regarding the addition of extra potato crops, tell me sir do you want fries with that?
scirio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:08:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I know this. You know this. Everyone knows this. Everybody." -Trump
retundamonkey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:10:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God -> Jerry -> Kent -> Cleaners
dr_pepper97 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:20:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Getting paid minimum wage to give fucks
/s
nodoubtguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:22:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kelsey Grammer is actually 4th in the chain
bobsp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, not just any random McDonald's employee--the Richmond mid-afternoon drive-thru operator. Get it right!
Tdmort ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:24:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Government 101.
TheForgottenOne_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:47:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're in Canada. They go to the Queen before the President.
your_odd_erection ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is one of the best things I've ever read......i should read more i guess
Illmatched ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:55:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was having an off morning and your comment made it a little better, hysterical
SUMTHINBEASTy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:55:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't get it twisted, that was clearly a McDonald's Manager.
pi22seven ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, you're not to far off.
https://youtu.be/cGuT97v4pv0
samjowett ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not random. There is a clear heirarchy.
Drive-through person -> Lot man -> Fry guy
pokerking89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is known.
sazz16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol pure gold
AdolfTrumpler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not anymore...
Rivuzu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, the Designated Fry Server.
bayoubevo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mayor McCheese is the alexander haig of the group.
sucobe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. This is why I did not pass my citizenship test.
COYBIG ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They just ain't getting paid enough to care
tripwire0220 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is known.
Armantes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thought it was POTUS > VPOTUS > SoH > Kelsey Grammer...
RevRowGrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm kilt. Also explains why the drive through staff were so rude to me next to base when I was in the military..
Duff_McLaunchpad ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:27:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only difference is that the random McDonalds employee is actually trained to do their job correctly.
kevingattaca ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:55:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You got just ONE point for that funny comment !?! Come on people !!!! ;)
PS feel free to give me more points than him to fuck with his mind lol
spankymuffin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, with the way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if so many people get impeached that the line of succession ends up all the way down to a random McDonalds employee.
NoNoiseBefore5am ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Former FBI director Comey used to be 4th places, but now he's unemployed and homeless begging for money on the streets....
Cant-stop-reddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so good, thanks for the laugh today...
gazzamatron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Belly laugh, thanks
wickedawesomewow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐๐๐๐
MutinyofClowns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey...she's a manager. There are certain responsibilities that come with that headset.
Portmanteau_that ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah so this is what we're gonna end up with... Still a step up from Trump
bannedeverywhereman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God this is the best reddit comment I've read.
In my city people collect disability/welfare then deliver pizzas and beer for cash. Business doesn't claim it they don't claim it. They also get Percocets prescribed to them by the 100s and sell them for cash. Clean houses for cash.
Then complain the government doesn't Give them enough when they're smoking a pack a day and eating out every second day.
Poverty in Canada is a 300 pound fat white woman yelling at the cable tv. Talking on her cell phone. Driving her car. While eating 2nd and 3rd suppers.
shtuffit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oddly enough that lists IQ from low to high as well
8styx8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[]
TheSilentPunjabi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This may actually be true currently
Dblstandard ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:28:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
Mister_V3 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:26:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah because the mangers do fuck all, except deligate the work, live off expenses and have way to much holiday.
loanmagic24 ยท 1140 points ยท Posted at 16:49:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry but we don't offer McAdvice here.
johnnyssmokestack ยท 690 points ยท Posted at 17:11:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
McScuse me, bitch? edit: sauce
dread_beard ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 17:18:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She should've called her McLawyer.
I'm an expert in Big Mac Law, ma'am.
ButtmanAndRubbin ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:08:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh now if you want to go toe to toe on Burg Law...
JHTech03 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mc'mam
FTFY
untrustableskeptic ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:24:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You McHeard me.
unsane_sandwiches ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:17:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
legit lol
toferdelachris ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:27:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"have you seen McC?"
johnnyssmokestack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:41:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calvin's got a job!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:48:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This video is from the town I live in, in Ohio and it makes me sad lol
snaab900 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:15:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I throatpunched that bitch!
Indyy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:52:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The machine is broken
danah2014 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best comment I've seen today. Lol
dirtymoney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
where's the McLawyer?
MoNkEySpOoNeRz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lmfao giggle giggle
hang3xc ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:18:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literal LOL at that one!
[deleted] ยท 366 points ยท Posted at 17:24:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
QuasarSandwich ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 18:23:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She isn't "lying to avoid work": she's lying as part of what she has chosen to do as "work". I know a couple of people who do this - one guy from my hometown I've known for over 25 years - who really do see what they do as their job. I know that's a very fucked-up way of looking at things but that's their call - and, in the case of the guy I know well, it's far better IMO that he sits out on the street pretending to be homeless and asking for money than that he does what he used to do to earn money, which was grab people at ATMs, hold a syringe to their necks and tell them he'd give them AIDS if they didn't give him a couple of hundred quid...
helimx ยท 195 points ยท Posted at 16:49:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially when they figure out she probably makes more money than they do working at McDonald's
JJGeneral1 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:32:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you can see that connection happen on the McD's lady's face when these guys said "she parks in your lot, doesn't buy anything here, and begs for money out on the corner there." The look of "parking here and not a customer? OH HELL NO!"
diafeetus ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 17:26:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I don't understand why someone would work at a job like that. There are plenty of entry-level, no-skill-needed, minimum-wage jobs that could actually lead somewhere other than $10.38/hr for shift manager.
ThatIrishDude ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 18:14:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A job is a job man. When you need money for rent and food, you're just looking for the first place that's hiring.
dementorpoop ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:22:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's also easier to get a job when you have a job.
diafeetus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:22:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's kind of the point, though. Even if you make McDonald's shift manager, you're not making enough for rent, alone -- in any state.
Any diner or other restaurant job with tips would pay better, and you generally don't need experience to start running/bussing food.
This isn't about food/service jobs. This is about places like McDonald's where you top out at $10/hr and there's ~no prospect for more.
Jurgrady ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 18:27:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are absolutely right. But the problem is that people feel like these jobs should provide a living. They aren't supposed to be anything more than college kids and high school drop outs. You aren't meant to live off McDonald's wage. People are just lazy. Because ultimately it is easier than a lot of other jobs. People don't have ambition just desires.
Xellirks ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:29:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Totally depends where you work, some places are impossible to get a job outside service
diafeetus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not talking about service in general. McDonald's store structure in particular is very limited. I worked in the food/service industry as a student, but started at a small restaurant. Worked on customer service and quickly got up to deliveries, bringing in $12+/hr within a few months. It wasn't great, but there's nothing comparable at McDonald's.
Beyond that, if there's no good work nearby, apply elsewhere. You live only once. Dedication to a dead-end, minimum-wage job will only distract you from real opportunities.
SamuraiGalactus ยท 712 points ยท Posted at 16:59:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and then the guy taking out trash, he gets paid minimum wage to work his fucking ass off, he probably works full days with little to no break and this dumb useless fucking cunt who can't even work for her own money comes up and asks him for help. If it was me I would have been like "get fucked" after those guys told me she was out there begging.
mognoj ยท 839 points ยท Posted at 17:48:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work at McD. Taking out the trash WAS my break. Notice how he just mozies along, not in a hurry to get back inside. Dude knows how to work that trash break.
Peanut11239 ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 18:34:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't work at McD's but I worked at another fast food place, can confirm trash breaks are a thing, we had a lot of trash cans and a dumpster with a lock on it so I could take up to about 6-8 mins. without anyone thinking it suspicious
patientbearr ยท 290 points ยท Posted at 18:03:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you commute on the subway in NYC you will end up hearing the same beggars telling the same sob stories on the same trains every day.
One guy has a dog he brings with him that has been "pregnant with puppies" for like two years now. Another lady's house is in a perpetual state of just having burned down for the last three years or so.
It's unfortunate because I would help someone out if I knew they were in genuine need. But I've become so jaded at this point that I just assume every beggar's story is bullshit.
mrkruk ยท 122 points ยท Posted at 18:11:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite honest beggar - guy on a sidewalk bridge in Las Vegas. His sign said "Why lie? I want beer." I went in a casino and got a free beer, then left and took it to him.
AlwaysHere202 ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 18:21:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't ever give money to beggars.
Now, if they do something to entertain you, feel free to give. That is an exchange.
I have no respect for someone who won't at least tell a bad joke for their dime.
ViaticalTree ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 18:27:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best I'll do is offer to buy them some food at a nearby fast food place. In the several times I've done that, they've never taken me up on it. "Nah man...I just need a few bucks."
CaptainMudwhistle ยท 398 points ยท Posted at 17:41:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you've ever worked at a fast food place, you know how zoned-out that guy was. Then out of nowhere some lady is talking nonsense and being filmed about something.
Her: "Excuse me, these men won't..."
Trash Man: "Uh. Wat."
Pomgilus ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:18:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guarantee he didn't get a break unless he took out the garbage. A lunch? Fuck no! If you don't smoke, then keep on working! When I worked in fast food, I actually took up smoking so I could get a break, and I was a shift manager, and made $7.10 an hour to get screamed at, food thrown at me, and almost all the paper work, because at 17, I was more competent than the other shift manager, who was 35 or 36. I was also closing manager (until about 12:30-1am even though we closed at 10pm and I was only allowed to be clocked in until 11pm) while still in high school. It was terrible!
Fuck that lady for hoping for their rescue...she is a shit human being.
ZeroV2 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:32:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, it's legally required you get a break if you work over 6 hours or something like that
SigO12 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:33:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was driving through New Mexico and it was a sunny and fairly hot day. There was some guy out holding a sign for a business across from a beggar taking money from cars. It had to suck to see at least one person every cycle give that guy money while you're working some shit job to at least try.
I felt like giving him the $40 I had on hand but I figured he had the dignity to not beg for money and not accept. Also I was in a 20' moving truck pulling a vehicle and he was on the opposite side of the road.
mero8181 ยท -27 points ยท Posted at 17:45:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then don't give her money? I just think of these people as self employed. They are working a job that makes them money. How can you fault them for it?
JMinTampa ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 17:54:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's taking charity from good-hearted people who might otherwise give money to causes/people that actually need it. Sure, you could say what's the big deal, it's some loose change, a dollar here and there... but it's the principle, she's not self-employed, she is exploiting people who see her as a woman in distress and needing help.
mero8181 ยท -42 points ยท Posted at 17:58:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then don't give money. No one is forcing anyone to give money. Just because people are suckers means she can't make money off those suckers?
JMinTampa ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:34:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People aren't suckers for wanting to help someone who might be hungry, what a stupid thing to say. And nobody is saying she can't make money off them. Clearly she can. But with that, she should rightfully pay the price of being exposed as a shit human being, and people rightfully should let her know how dishonorable her actions are.
mero8181 ยท -25 points ยท Posted at 18:40:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah they are. People have NO CLUE what that money is going to be used for. They are giving it away just making an assumption, even if the person tells them that is what they are using for, you still don't know if that is true or not. If you are freely going to give out money like that, don't be pissed when its not used the way you want.
ZeroV2 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:33:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The point is that she is ruining it for people who might actually need some quick help to get back on their feet. It's pretty shameful to beg for money when you're able bodied and make at least enough to own a pretty nice car like that instead of just working an honest job
Truan ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:50:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because she's taking advantage of an unwritten system.
mero8181 ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 17:52:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
huh.....everyone take advantage of said system. Some when pannhanlders do it its a terrible thing.
Truan ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:58:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here, let me explain it a little better.
I think it's safe to assume that when a person is panhandling, the donate expects that they are at the end of their rope for survival. That the spare change they are donating will give the person a meal, or maybe some semblance of structure for the future. I can't believe that any donor is assuming that they're encouraging a person to make a career out of it. Mostly because those kinds of people are a shitty blight on society for taking advantage of other people's kindness
yoyomuggle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:35:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I 100% assume that there is good chance the person is panhandling professionally. I know they are out there. People make good money doing it. I rarely give money to panhandlers anymore. I give to local agencies that help.
mero8181 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:00:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of that is on the donor. They are making a lot of assumptions with very little info. If you don't know exactly how your money is going to be used then don't use it. If you are willing to give it away then be ready to accept that you might be suckered.
Truan ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:05:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a really immature way to look at life. If you're a stock broker and put all your money into Enron, do you just blame yourself for not looking at how you spent your money, and not at the company for duping you? You're basically just excusing dishonesty
RoninMusashi ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:11:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly you don't give ocular patdowns like mero. Mero would have assessed the lady (and Enron), cleared her, and would have had an ABC strike plan.
Truan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:36:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He stole the car?
Yeah mac gave him an ocular patdown and everything! Said the kid was totally safe!
QuasarSandwich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am certainly not supporting either dishonesty or what u/mero8181 is saying, but I don't think your analogy there is an especially good one: if you are a stockbroker and you put all your money into anything you need to accept a degree of responsibility if things go tits-up. You need to diversify your portfolio in a way that spreads your risk sufficiently. It doesn't matter how honest or not a company is: if you everything into it, and it goes under, you have to accept that your strategy was flawed.
Truan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't literally mean life savings because that would be irresponsible. I just can't imagine the user would be duped, and walk away thinking "well that outta teach me a lesson!"
mero8181 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:23:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, I am supporting first amendment rights.
Truan ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:40:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the everloving fuck are you talking about
Anonny1212 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:14:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, accept the possibility but that doesn't mean you can't get pissed when you find out you are being duped. This lady deserves all the hate/shame headed her way.
mero8181 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should you really get pissed if you blindly give money to someone without knowing how the money will be used? If their is any question don't give.
2OP4me ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:12:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone giving Charity is not a sucker, they are a good person. Someone taking advantage of said person is human garbage, like you right now. The fact that you can't comprehend why this is a morally terrible act just makes you a piece of shit like this woman.
mero8181 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not all charities are the same. Giving to the right charity makes them a good person. If you give to charity before you do your research on how the money will be used then don't get pissed if the money isn't used how you would like.
JMinTampa ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:55:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That makes no sense. "Everyone take advantage of said system." Uh, no they don't.
mero8181 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:57:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah they do. Do you speed when no cops are around? Do people claim all the cash they get on their taxes?
downvote_me_moreYOLO ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:05:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're making the assumption that everyone is morally corrupt.
Edit: You are also making the sweeping assumption that, if people have the option to commit "morally corrupt" or "illegal activities" without any fear of punishment, that people will always commit the morally corrupt or illegal activity, which isn't true at all.
(Note that not all morally corrupt activities are illegal, just to point that out)
BB8MYD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe not everyone, but probably at least 60%, and .6 rounds up to 1. 1=100% and 100% = everyone. Solid logic in my opinion.
downvote_me_moreYOLO ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:13:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, that's pretty solid. Can't argue with that logic. Pack it up boys.
PhilxBefore ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:16:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the cut of your jib.
SamuraiGalactus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:20:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
self employed liars? self employed con artists?
mero8181 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If people are willing to give money indiscriminately like they, why shouldn't people be able to try and get a share? Yeah its wrong what they are doing, but don't give money out if you don't want to learn how its being used.
FeatheredSun ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:12:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, on the real, panhandlers around my area make about $85/day. It's above minimum wage, about as much as entry level office work or a senior fast food position. Still not much though, and there's a certain level of abasement to it, so most folks aren't lining up to do it.
Basically, if you can get better work, usually you do.
Most panhandlers ARE essentially homeless, but many pay a small rent to stay in slum houses or sheds or whatnot. The reason they opt for this is usually so they have the freedom to take drugs as they want (which are forbidden at the shelters), and they don't have the up-to-date documentation (ID, pay stub, bills) required to get better lodging.
My point is that the myth of the rich-and-comfortable panhandler is generally not true. You could get an office job that pays the same, and not have to worry about chasing down cars. With this lady, she's probably mentally unstable and on drugs (meth is my default guess), so that car (which is likely either a boyfriend's or stolen), won't last long, and if she's living at her parents' or boyfriend's house right now, that sign might not be lying come this time next year. Prostitution or some kind of fraud usually come next.
mero8181 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:21:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet that myth comes from like the 1 or 2 videos people see then they just assume all of them are rich and make tons of money.
workedmisty ยท 129 points ยท Posted at 16:15:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's so painful as it's clear they don't want to have to do with it
Communalbuttplug ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 16:35:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was begging everyone!
ss98camaross ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 16:38:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol, she clearly was disabled in the brain area.
WARNING_im_a_Prick ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:49:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Malfunction in the brain housing unit
Dahkma ยท 631 points ยท Posted at 17:22:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She is searching for white knights to "deal with these guys".
The sad part is that strategy could have and probably did work in the past when she was younger and more attractive. She keeps at it for 3 attempts. I wonder how many times she successfully used it in the past to come to rely on it.
CaptainMudwhistle ยท 492 points ยท Posted at 17:52:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
White knights have multiple response settings...
Hot chick: LEAVE HER ALONE!!~!~! starts swinging
Average chick: Come on guys, take it easy. escorts her away
This chick: Uh, just get in your car and leave, lady. escorts garbage can away
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:12:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There might be a hot chick watching that's currently taking a women's studies course.
technobyrd8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:10:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can somebody give this guy some gold please
[deleted] ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 18:28:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, just get in your car and leave, lady.
BRUTALLEEHONEST ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:21:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you begging right meow? What kind of cat do you drive?
Dubaku ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:22:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lion
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:28:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quit lion around an get a job.
sharklops ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 17:43:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You got it. I just said the same in the YouTube comments. She was hoping to stumble on someone who would start beating on them no questions asked.
VladimirPootietang ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:10:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
why even comment on youtube? lol
sharklops ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:16:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's mostly the masochism
Booblicle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looking for a beaying of thier own
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's where I go to be reminded that half of all people are utter scum.
essence_of_moisture ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:28:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she was really just looking for some White Castle.
Dahkma ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:33:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Burger Shack Employee: Ding-dong! May I interject for a second? As a Burger Shack employee for the past three years, if there's one thing I've learned, it's that if you're craving White Castle, the burgers here just don't cut it. In fact, just thinking about those tender little White Castle burgers with those little, itty-bitty grilled onions that just explode in your mouth like flavor crystals every time you bite into one... Just makes me wanna burn this motherfucker down. [he turns to his partner]
Employee: Come on, Pookie! Let's burn this motherfucker down! [starts destroying stuff] Come on, Pookie! Let's burn it, Pookie! Let's burn this motherfucker down! Let's burn it down! Let's burn it! [calms down] So you guys maybe should just suck it up and go to White Castle.
ramamayala33 ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 18:22:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You seem to be projecting. She's begging for money on a street corner, I'm sure she's just trying to take the "easy" but humiliating way out and also assumed they might escort them off because since she's parked there.
I agree she's being scummy, but there's something really irritating about the camera guy too. Also, wouldn't she have grounds for suing since he's lambasting her without permission/her license?
Those poor employees though ๐ Probably just thinking "... fucking white people..."
Dahkma ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:26:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"...redditor for 7 minutes"
You seem to be projecting
there's something really irritating about the camera guy
he's lambasting her without permission/her license
"... fucking white people..."
Looks like you'll fit right in here, welcome to Reddit.
Whichguy ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 16:52:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'M GONNA TELL ON U!!!
theotherpachman ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:13:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to have people try and rope me into arguments when I was 16 years old working at a bowling alley. Really people? The fuck am I gonna do to resolve this?
The most power I ever had was to tell people they were too drunk and if they didn't remove themselves the police would do it in a few minutes.
CaptainMudwhistle ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:48:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Do you want me to spray this stuff in their shoes? I don't know what it is."
theotherpachman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, you must have gone into one of those "fancy" bowling alleys. At mine you wore whatever stank the last person had. Not my proudest job but at least the people were a blast.
iShark ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:47:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god that look at 1:30 when they tell the McDonald's manager what car she drives...
"Fiat."
Looks over at the car.
Oh this bitch...
ofsinope ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:27:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Love how she appeals the decision to the guy taking out the trash.
mikeoley ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:52:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was rattled and knew she was busted. Total panic move. Would've been 1000% better to just get in the car and drive away. People do stupid things under pressure.
darkjedidave ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:12:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The new crime series, Law and can I take your Order: Drive Thru Intent
PortonDownSyndrome ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:29:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, that's not irrational. If that's McDonald's (or a franchisee's) property, then the employees might be authorised to decide who can or can't be on the premises.
"Management reserves the right to refuse admission", or something similar.
Her only problem was not understanding that she wasn't any more welcome on the premises than them, what with her not buying anything and taking up a parking spot (in an admittedly empty lot though).
Still, it could have gone another way too, because corporate probably doesn't appreciate someone coming on McDonald's property and creating drama, and making another person feel unwelcome.
TheyCallMeAli ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:45:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably thought she could salvage the situation if she could convince the worker she was a customer being harassed since they hadn't yet gotten footage of her in the car. Too far gone lady, and putting it on the minimum wage* worker who already deals with shit on a daily basis is a real class act.
WorkFlow_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:46:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was actually just trying to make a scene hoping that would make them feel bad and go away so they wouldn't film her getting in the car. She can argue that she just put her stuff on it and it wasn't her so long as she never gets in and drives away.
midoriiro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tbf she handled that situation mad professionally.
gervinho90 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:04:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lmaoooo she literally went up to every worker trying to play the victim. These are mcdonalds workers lady, they're not getting paid enough to listen to you bitch. And every single one of them probably needs that money more than she does
NapClub ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:12:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah those drive thru workers have all the real power.
that lady actually said someone was gonna kill that guy, pretty insanely aggressive.
though lets be real, i doubt any of this will hinder that lady in the least from making lots of money.
Myid0810 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:16:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah i didnt get the point of asking random people around to help when she is clearly caught making a fool of people. and might i add thats one sweet ride Fiat 500X worth 15-20000$
zaphod_beeble_bro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:24:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
she was going back and forth between people, in the hopes of a white knight stepping in and defending her.
icreateaccounttopost ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:14:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't feel like watching that far. What did the McD employee say?
chappinn ยท 164 points ยท Posted at 16:15:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ยฏ\(ใ)/ยฏ
[deleted] ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 16:36:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
bakdom146 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 17:04:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are Italians notorious for not having shoulders?
Cucumber_Fucker ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:16:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in markdown using two underscores makes italics so in /u/chappinn's comment the (ใ) is in italics. Italics were created in Italy(hence the name) because they realised they could print letters on an angle and fit more letters into a given space, while still remaining legible.
ThatsWhatSheaSaid ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:27:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this comment has the potential to be factually bullshit, but you stated it with such eloquence and conviction that I'm tempted to believe you.
Urethra_is_Ourethra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:46:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Italics were first used in Italy. Markdown escape sequence is used to differentiate characters that are used in the markdown language from just plain text (comments)
itssarahw ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:26:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever you say, no-shoulders
PHALLUSAUR ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:40:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you, that was very insightful, /u/Cucumber_Fucker
TheMysteriousFizzyJ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:38:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/shittyhistoryisactuallyreal ...
I didn't believe you, but you're right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italic_type#history
be-targarian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL. Do you get paid in cucumbers for all your useful knowledge sharing?
bakdom146 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, that's a hell of a stretch for a joke. I like it.
jostler57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the Italophile.
Panopticon01 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:14:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
AppleDane ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:26:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Denmark we call Italians "Ryggeslรธse", which translates to both "Shoulderless" and "pissed off French guy".
CaptainMudwhistle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:45:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ayyyy, a bada bing a bada boop ยฏ\(ใ)/ยฏ
BOBfrkinSAGET ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:00:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty spot on for what she said
JungProfessional ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This has 13k up votes and only 6k views.
Phish_Jam_Tostada ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 16:16:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pretty much the reaction of anyone dealing with a random situation not in their pay grade.
PoorEdgarDerby ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 16:49:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What would you say if some random lady came up at your work saying these guys are bothering me and the guys said she's begging for money but she's not homeless and she says tell them to stop bothering me and the guys say she's parked in your parking lot she says she's homeless but she has a car?
sierra120 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 17:00:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Umm...in...Real life I would have said: "you can call the police if you feel threatened or just...leave the area. "
Then under my breath mutter "ain't my job lady cause I don't get paid enough to care"
TesticleMeElmo ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:09:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's more on point to what the McDonald's lady actually said.
icreateaccounttopost ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:18:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd close the window.
CaptainMudwhistle ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:46:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
maintains eye contact and closes window as slow as possible
grandmoffcory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd tell the guys to leave her alone or call the police if it bothers them that much. Why do I care if she's homeless, panhandlers lie all the time.
Bao_time ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:09:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She said don't be a lazy cunt, watch the video yourself.
icreateaccounttopost ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:22:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's really amazing they said that.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:12:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She is more comfortable knocking on windows, that's why.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"would you like fries with that?"
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, they did catch the facebook killer.
WarBeastPegasus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know. She's pretty stupid.
IncredibleVossman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well she IS wearing a uniform
LEtitan82006 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The drive thru worker's look after she saw the woman's car... priceless
indoorcat007 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:47:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those MickyD workers will cut a bitch. ๐ /s
viverroidea ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:14:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe it's actually King Burger Employees who will cut you. King Burger...where they will do it your way (but don't get crazy).
rockstar_nailbombs ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:35:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
flashin the pussy pass looking for a white knight
SilverWaterG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep! Everyone knows that a random McDonalds employee is the highest level of government!
Ultimater3333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry ma'am, but our McAdvice machine is broken right now. Come back tomorrow. Edit: one word
Rioraku ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, it was being cleaned.
laissezfaireF1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was hoping for a much different type of video based on the title
Raise_Uplights ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She thought grabbing an attractive woman would baffle the men and their camera phones
frothface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[puzzled as to why no one cares] "They won't leave me alone!?!"
Yeah, not at all surprised that this person is begging for change she doesn't need or deserve.
spankymuffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Excuse me, McDonalds authorities? Please place these harassers under arrest. Lock them up in the play pin until Ronald arrives to set bail. What? Yes, and an extra-large diet coke, please..."
FidelHimself ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
McDonald's employees are basically police officers.
yuhbuddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of them did catch a murderer.
Citypatown42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ask every mcemployee no matter what your issue is and they will tell they can't help u even if u just paid $20 for mccrap
FloatLife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He who controls the fries controls the universe.
Citypatown42 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As always the poor black at McDonald's have to see the effects of white crackhead ism and lib tard
BeeQueenbee60 ยท 10313 points ยท Posted at 16:12:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A 'homeless' woman in Toronto was pictured on front page of local newspaper (1990s), her neighbor recognized her, called the paper. The 'homeless' woman actually lived in a $1m mansion, and her husband was the dean of a university.
AiDs_Biscuit ยท 4061 points ยท Posted at 16:19:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What?!...why do people do this? Is there something I'm missing? How can there be much money in this?...I should quit job...
life_questions ยท 4403 points ยท Posted at 16:27:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cash = no tax record. Free food, free clothes, and cash.
There are a number of them around where I live too. We see them daily. They will park blocks away from where they beg and at the end of the day go get in their car and drive away.
You can make $20 an hour at busy intersections no problem. All it takes is 4 people giving you $5 in an hour.
sarcasticorange ยท 2392 points ยท Posted at 17:07:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think she says something about being on disability. If that is the case, then this is a way for her to supplement her disability income without losing her disability benefits (which she would if she got a job). Because it is "off the books", she gets her disability money plus some extra.
Of course, if she is capable of this, she is likely capable of working, so not only is she fleecing well-intentioned people, she is also fleecing taxpayers as well.
edit: to be clear - we don't have all the facts here and there are tons of possible factors that could make this worse or better. I am just providing one possible explanation of why a person on disability might do this. Whether that is acceptable requires more information.
life_questions ยท 306 points ยท Posted at 17:11:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah this is not a judgement against the people participating - it's just a showcase of how and why people do it and survive financially.
Mental problems can't be readily seen unless they have physical manifestations. She could be abusing her disability or she could suffer from severe anxiety or some other issue that wouldn't work well in an office environment.
The issue is, for me, do they pay taxes aside from sales tax? If so, it might not be the best income from a moral perspective but it could be much much worse.
johnnyfiveizalive ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 18:04:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She is clearly mentally disabled if she bought a 4door Fiat.
life_questions ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:04:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This man is after my own heart - hey at least it's not a Pontiac Aztec...
speedy_delivery ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 18:37:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone with anxiety problems, having to ask strangers for money and the constant threat of being arrested for vagrancy or fraud would stress me out way more than dealing with some asshole in my office. And even if I were successful, I'd still have to live with the guilt of intentionally defrauding people of their money. I'll pass.
branewalker ยท 259 points ยท Posted at 17:30:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The issue is the financial cliff that welfare like disability creates. You're not incentivized to earn more until you can get a significant amount more at a job. Minimum wage levels and service industry stress levels aren't worth it.
This speaks both to minimum wage being too low and probably to the need for something closer to UBI instead of disability.
As a "side effect" of fixing the panhandling fraud it would also virtually eliminate actual homelessness.
Of course then workers would get the idea they could demand fair treatment from employers because they wouldn't be under threat of homelessness themselves. That would be bad for the ruling class.
Pawk ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:48:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why don't they do a graduated system? Like every extra dollar you earn, you lose 20 cents in benefits?
jonblaze32 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:05:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It kind of works out like that, as a basic income is usually coupled with a progressive tax system.
Theon_Severasse ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:38:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know where you are, but in the UK there is a hard cut-off point for earnings. If you earn over that amount then you lose all of your benefits.
That amount is also potentially a lot less than you would get just from the benefits alone (once they are all added up).
imperabo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:14:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You say that like ubi is something that exists somewhere. Or do you mean in theory?
EmotionLogical ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:26:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It exists in Macau, it has existed in Dauphin Manitoba, it existed in Namibia and Indiaโall of them showed positive results: http://ubi.earth - http://basicincomeday.com/evidence
AnAnnoyedExLurker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't a part of Finland applying it?
branewalker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. They're just increasing unemployment benefits and calling it UBI.
EmotionLogical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Basic income exists in Macau since 2008, a UBI existed in Dauphin Manitoba and eradicated poverty, Basic Income existed in Namibia and Indiaโโall of them showed positive results: http://ubi.earth - http://basicincomeday.com/evidence
thingandstuff ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:33:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The guy that was for that was guilty of not knowing what Aleppo is, so we can't have nice things.
sololipsist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because imagine someone who is juuuust shy of working. They're on disability. Okay, so the get a job at McDonalds.
Now imagine someone else that works at that McDonalds who has a lot of fucking problems, physical and mental, but is juuuust shy of qualifying for disability.
So now these two people are working at the same place, their difficulties are similar enough in severity that it would be difficult to guess which one is on disability if you didn't know, doing the same job. But one of them is making, say, 75% more because they're on disability.
It's easy to say that's okay from a comfortable, educated, middle-class perspective. But to the person that makes their living at minimum wage at McDonalds because they come from a poor family, didn't have good opportunities growing up, and is now too bogged down to improve himself, this is profoundly fucked up.
Can you imagine struggling to pay your power bill every month and having to eat McDonalds every day because you can't afford three meals all the time, having to work right next to this guy who is not discernibly different than you but is coasting by on government cheese? Maybe he has a nicer car than you?
That would suck.
ohmygodlenny ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:27:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, the problem with disability is that if you rely on your insurance unless you can somehow swing a job with a top notch government-level insurance plan then you can go fuck yourself as far as social security is concerned. You can either not work and get 800 a month to live on or you can work and lose your insurance.
Disability literally traps people in their situations.
harborwolf ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:52:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been working since I was 14.
I might not be the best with money, but I'm okay. The 'newest' care I've been able to afford at any point in my life is probably 4 - 5 years old.
Now this lady with no job who's begging for change and is probably collecting some sort of welfare or disability has a newer car than me, as I BUST MY ASS at multiple jobs?
Cool. I guess I'm doing it wrong.
housebird350 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:08:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dont even work that hard and my ass has a crack in it....
branewalker ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 18:24:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While your hard work is laudable, I'm sure glad I haven't had to work that hard, and I'd rather see our society ratchet down the work responsibilities and increase the average person's leisure time (especially in the face of increasing automation), rather than feed an entitlement complex driven by "well, if I had to work this hard, so should you!"
Not everyone who gets assistance deserves it. Many who deserve it don't get it. In order to fix the latter more important problem, the former may not be addressed as well as some would like. Same with criminal justice. In pursuit of punishing all wrongdoers, we sometimes punish innocents. I'd rather avoid the latter than be perfect at the former.
Threads like this one are just outrage peddling that ultimately hurts people like you and me, because we far outnumber people like in OP's video.
harborwolf ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:25:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's an amazing idealology to have.
I want more free time too... but until then calling out some fucking scumbag for scamming people into giving her money under false pretenses is perfectly acceptable.
That is the only issue here.
Roguish_Knave ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:44:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The entire system is created to keep people in their place. Who benefits from health insurance being tied to a job as well as subsidized 30-year mortgages? If you want health care and a roof over your head you are much less mobile.
EmotionLogical ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:29:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is plenty of evidence that backs up many of your above statements: http://ubi.earth - http://basicincomeday.com/evidence - Basic income exists in Macau since 2008, a UBI existed in Dauphin Manitoba and eradicated poverty, Basic Income existed in Namibia and Indiaโall of them showed positive results.
the_air_got_to_it ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:30:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't blame it on minimum wage--we need minimum wage for high school and college kids, or anyone with zero job experience. It's a starting wage for a reason--it's supposed to built upon. The problem is that companies no longer provide a culture of job stability and career growth. Everything that American workers' unions tried to build got abused and discredited. The middle and lower classes are no longer about picking an employer and sticking around for the long haul, because the money isn't livable, nor is the treatment. And the companies are just fine with that, because they don't have to pay into your healthcare or your retirement plans.
Obi_Kwiet ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:59:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah. To anxious to work in an office, not too anxious to aggressive panhandle on the side of the road and angrily confront people who call you on your deception.
life_questions ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:03:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well would you want to work with her?
Obi_Kwiet ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:21:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being a shitty person isn't a disability.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:31:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep - the fact that she thought that the random McDonald's employees were somehow going to intervene and help her leads me to believe that there is something not quite right in there.
DefconDelta88 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:22:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This woman is not suffering from anxiety. I don't think anyone with anxiety would be fucking panhandling like that. That's like oil and water man, the two don't mix.
life_questions ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:24:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're likely right - it was a hypothetical. We don't know I was just trying to think of something and that popped into my head
[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 17:22:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah severe anxiety and cannot work in an office but can beg strangers for money. I think that mental disorder is in the DSM under sloth.
life_questions ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:25:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey man people have problems - I'm not one to judge them. If they pay taxes I don't care - if they completely cheat the charity of others and cheat their neighbors, county, city, state, and country out of taxes is where I start to care.
It's easy to villainize without knowledge
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:27:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This woman is obviously an example that people would take advantage of compassionate people like you. I think your best off donating to charity than just blindly trusting people.
life_questions ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:29:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep and that's why I donate my effort and not my wallet to people. I'll help you physically but donations are to charities with a proven history of doing good
AcornTits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stress manifests itself in many ways, many of which do not necessarily make not much sense to anyone from the outside looking in. It doesn't make it any less a disability, it's simply something that needs to have therapy to be managed.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:17:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that "I function perfectly fine except when I have to actually do something difficult like work at a job stress". Yeah that is very convenient. the truth is 95% of these people would shape right up if forced to. They are taking the path of least resistance.
Wantsomepeniscake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what I always see. Can't work in the office because anxiety or w/e, but has no problem going to concerts, parties, etc. I see a lot of people that needed to be smacked when they were kids, but instead got nothing but coddled.
Aww_Topsy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:06:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really hard to see how she could be on permanent disability. Permanent disability is supposed to reflect an inability to hold down any meaningful work, and it usually requires an inability to perform work activities for a year to qualify. She's very clearly performing work activities if she's panhandling in a regular spot at regular hours.
JackBond1234 ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 17:29:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If your welfare system encourages people to work harder to stay on welfare than to actually earn their own money, then something is wrong with your welfare system.
1PsOxoNY0Qyi ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 17:58:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it's paying out too much - people shouldn't be comfortable on welfare, it should be damn well uncomfortable.
spankymuffin ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:13:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It could also be someone else's car that she's borrowing. Or someone else is paying for it. Having a car like that is an indication of wealth, but not enough--by itself--to conclude that she's totally faking it. For all we know, there could be a repo man following close behind.
MR_SHITLORD ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:59:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That system seems bad when you are punishing people for working.
grandmoffcory ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 17:21:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Disability doesn't always mean physical. She might be mentally unfit for work.
Wolfntee ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:26:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's obviously something mentally wrong with her if she is doing this.
S7EFEN ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:49:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's providing a service.
By accepting money from others she's making others feel good about themselves for helping out this woman who is playing the role of a disabled person in need.
:)
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:04:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
your sir; should be the moderator at r/capitalism. take your up vote.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:44:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are thieves and scumbags mentally ill?
While it's possible there's something wrong with her, it doesn't look like it. Look at her demeanour when she goes away after they ask her about her disability..she's full of shit.
thingandstuff ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:34:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not the part that makes me think she's mentally ill. Her thinking that her problems are also McDonald's problems is what concerns me.
robeph ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:17:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL demeanor it's part of the diagnostics criteria.
Starkville ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:55:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here's my story about people working while disabled: I used to work for a large international investment bank on Wall St. There was a man who worked there who was a quadriplegic. He was in a wheelchair that he maneuvered with oral controls. He was there in a suit every day.
I'm not sure what his job entailed; maybe he was a Hawking-like financial genius. But was there, working.
vitringur ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:50:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which isn't really the right way to look at it. There are plenty of disabled people who are perfectly able to have a job.
The problem is that people with disabilities should not lose their disability checks when they work.
I know a guy with some neuro-illness which means that he is bound to a wheelchair but still perfectly able to work an 8-hour workday as the head of programming.
His life is however far more costly than of the average able bodied person.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:12:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you can run and beg strangers for money you are not disabled
Ermcb70 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:24:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can be mentally disabled. I know people with PTSD who can't hold down a job but could do all the things she does. But at the end of the day If the government is giving you disability then you should live within the means of that stipend. The guys I know do.
procupine14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely something that she'd be obligated to report. If caught, she'd definitely lose those benefits.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't know her disability though.
someting_amazing ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:10:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
According to the guys in the video her sign said homeless
BenificusAngorio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And someone wants to know why we aren't feeding these people, too. What is next? Wiping their asses? Carrying them around?
X-the-Komujin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:55:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a load of goddamn ratshit. I'm applying for disability right now and you get a decent paycheck especially since you aren't working. If you live with a SO then you automatically make 700+ bucks a month.
This woman does not need cash with that clearly brand new vehicle, and there is no possible way she could have afforded that vehicle on disability.
dbx99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having financial trouble is a long way from homeless and begging
highRPMfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But to be on disability benefits you can't have too many assets. Wouldn't that Fiat would make her ineligible?
snailisland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure her case worker will be interested to see a video of her running after cars.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Capable of working doesn't mean a job is available. People are quick to judge a "fake" panhandler, but you really gotta ask your self - if they are literally begging on the fucking highway, perhaps they don't have a better option? Like, who in the fuck begs on the high way if they don't have to?
gervinho90 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah you saw her running in the video and she was mentally sound(kinda). She can work.
RMcD94 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well intentioned idiots. Give people in the street money for nothing and what do you know more people start asking for money.
Basic concept, where there's demand to give the supply will be filled
Horse_Bacon_TheMovie ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:18:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
can't tell if im out of touch or not but $20 and hour doesnt sound like its worth the effort for the amount of...pity and disgust you have to live through to get that.
life_questions ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 17:22:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people like feeling pitied - also $20/hour untaxed is a much bigger number than it sounds like. No withholding makes a big impact.
NO_TOUCHING__lol ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:41:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$20/hr is ~$41k per year.
Just to put this in perspective for anybody still having trouble, this would be like taking home $1,600 every bi-weekly paycheck..
Horse_Bacon_TheMovie ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:36:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you are right that would be about 28.57 before taxes otherwise.
life_questions ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:39:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or roughly $60k a year untaxed in cash assuming a standard 8 hour work day 5 days a week. Start doing it longer and 7 days a week and you start getting upwards of $80k in handouts a year. It adds up
workact ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:02:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$20/hour ~ $40,000/ year. Closer to $50k/ year if you count taxes. Could be up to $80k equivalent if she has a ton of other income (higher tax bracket)
FrostyD7 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:34:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Untaxed cash, pick your own hours, its gotta be addictive the same way stealing is.
Joverby ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:08:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most the successful ones make more than that too.
LeadBased ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The original crowdfunding
dumbgringo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:04:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$20 an hour is lowballing it especially as a woman panhandling. There was a TV interview here in Florida where a guy and his gf did this and were clearing over $100 an hour. They did have a dog on a rope leash so maybe they had that in their favor.
life_questions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In another post I point out a number of stories of "high-income" panhandlers and the reality that most of them make very little (the true homeless). The people that abuse the charity of others are the most upsetting
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:41:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Used to be homeless. You do this for too long, real homeless people will find out about you, and they will beat the living shit out of you. Dangerous game.
life_questions ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:43:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah - they are a gang - they work together. They rotate who buys lunch and who is at what corners. We see them meet up at the start of the day and at the end of the day they all head the same direction. They are younger and healthy looking people.
They control the area essentially. I feel bad for them and have some disdain towards them.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:56:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can make hundreds in a day in the right place. If 10000 cars pass you, and every 20th one gives you a buck, that's $500.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/theydidthemath
I_Hate_Monster_Math ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/dontfuckingsayit
clamps12345 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if i was on that kind of scam I'd at least have the decency to buy a shitty car to drive to beg in.
Juxtaposn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your hourly wage is determined by your net over 8 hours divided by those 8 hours. You can't rake someone's yard for an hour for 50 bucks and say you make fifty bucks an hour, lol.
phome83 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My elderly neighbor once gave me 10 bucks to help him move a dresser up his stairs. Took all of 5min maybe(took the drawers out first)?
Can I claim I make 120 bucks an hour?
spankymuffin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:11:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But you'd think someone living in a mansion wouldn't want to be caught dead asking for money. What if they run into someone they know? Wouldn't that be embarrasing? And wouldn't they rather spend their time doing anything but getting $20 an hour asking strangers for cash in the middle of the road?
Weird. Reminds me of a show, or maybe sketch comedy bit, where rich people pay to pretend they're poor. Some kind of "poor person camp" or something, to simulate what it's like being poor. As if they were fantasizing over that kind of life in much the same way the poor fantasize over being rich. Wish I could remember what it was...
life_questions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's always the movie Trading Places
Some people like to experience the unknown. Some people like to feel like they are getting the better of others. Some people are just whacky. We don't know the reality of this lady or the one mentioned in the comment. It just sucks that it appears to be a reality, even if the percentage of cheat beggars is low.
seasicksquid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have a lady where I live who has been pregnant since at least August 2014. No baby. Just always pregnant.
ButterAndEggs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I try to feel it out by looking at their shoes, clothes can be cleaned but you dont see a homeless person with a nice pair of shoes if they are sleeping outside. Also, i try to only give to people doing something to contribute, music, window cleaning, magic tricks, one kid keeps the alleyway behind my work for lunch each day. even if they are bad at it, rewarding laziness just promotes more of it. Get up and try to do SOMETHING for a few bucks, you only have the entire fucking day
bnksy420 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:38:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cash=cash? Nooooo
I-hate-other-Ron ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:02:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imma need to see some proof.
Gredenis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cache
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:50:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
I_RARELY_RAPE_PEOPLE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean if you never deposit that cash, you don't have to tell anyone.
worldDev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is incorrect. Legally it is a part of your gross income and taxable, but its just impossible for the IRS to prove. https://www.irs.gov/uac/reporting-miscellaneous-income
hellofellowstudents ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alright then.
ALONE_ON_THE_OCEAN ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:04:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love that you did the math on how someone could get 20 in an hour. Thanks for that.
life_questions ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:07:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't tell if sarcasm...some people conceptualize better by understanding it in terms of people and amount. 4x$5 is easy to understand and makes it understandable.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And here I am begging my city's employers for an opportunity to work.
I just keep thinking... maybe I can earn enough to buy a gun soon. It'll be the last purchase I have to make.
I just don't want to lose my home.
Maybe I can go live in this lady's mansion.
life_questions ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:13:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey man if you need to talk to someone please reach out to /r/SuicideWatch - they are great people there
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't need to talk to somebody.
I need a job.
Can anyone over there get me a job?
I'm highly qualified, in fact, that seems to be the problem.
be-targarian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:35:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Highly qualified and untalented. I think I found your problem!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:38:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck you, too.
My username is a reflection of how I've been feeling about myself lately.
I only keep it 'cause it's fairly unique.
be-targarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry I didn't mean to strike a chord. You seem like a decent person and I thought humor would lighten the mood. I have no problem deleting the post if you'd like.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's fine. You just hit a little close to home with that one. I managed to get an interview later tonight at a place I used to work at, so I'm feeling slightly less hopeless right now.
Earlier the food stamp lady laughed at me and I just want to cry. At least I got approved for benefits.
EmmBee27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a King of the Hill episode where Bobby learned to do exactly this from a bunch of people in their early 20s doing it despite not being homeless.
ATXBeermaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/theydidthemath
staygold_pony_boy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Current top post in /r/theydidthemath
gigajoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Math checks out
life_questions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're god damn right it does lol
OniTan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Inform the businesses so they get tow trucks called one them.
braised_diaper_shit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But dude these people were millionaires according to him. She should be at a country club or something.
life_questions ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:17:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They could be house poor...idk - or the person could just like feeling like they got the better of someone by taking their money without doing anything.
Just because you live in a million dollar house doesn't mean you have money. Look at Toronto home prices, even in the 90s they were high. Same for the bay area. Million + homes can be shacks in drug infested areas.
Or she could be the worst person alive - it's all conjecture and anecdotes.
braised_diaper_shit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you live in a million dollar house it means you don't have to beg for money. I'm not trying to argue about it. I'm trying to speculate. That person isn't doing it for the money in my opinion. There's a neurosis there.
horatiowilliams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If someone had a job they wouldn't do this.
If middle class people have to resort to panhandling - which, from personal experience, is kind of a grueling activity - it says something about the decline of the middle class.
Grimzkhul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say more than half the "homeless" around my city are like that... I'm not saying they live in the lap of luxury but they're abled bodied and sound of mind, they just don't wanna work for their money when they could be making more sitting and begging, tax free.
This one dude near my shop uses his dog to get more money, was bragging about how much he made one day and it made me sick... Dude earns more than 20$ an hour just by saying "Have any spare change for the two of us?" Or some variation to that.
HaiKarate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A metropolitan area that I lived in had a huge problem with panhandlers at major intersections. Heavy traffic plus lots of red lights means plenty of opportunity to panhandle.
Reports were that panhandlers at a busy intersection could generate $300-500/day.
After I read that in the paper, I stopped giving money directly to homeless people. In fact, I don't give out random charity, period, unless I know and trust the organization. Too many con artists out there looking for a handout in the name of charity.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Math checks out guys.
Nocturniquet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the small town I live in there is a hotel on the main road where this clan of 'homeless' people live. They pay to live in the hotel and then walk down the quarter mile road to the intersection and panhandle all day. Some of them have cell phones which they use while they beg. All of them have new clothes and are clean shaven.
I first came to this town 7 years ago and immediately knew they were not homeless at all because I am from Los Angeles. The difference between real homeless people and fake ones is night and day.
AdminsAreSRSschills ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:58:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can make a million dollars an hour if you get get a thousand people to give you a million dollars an hour too, if we're just making up numbers might as well go all out.
Do you have any sources on how much money pan handlers are making, because I hear this pan-handlers make more money than (insert respectable profession here) line all over the internet but I've never seen a bit of data to support it outside of personal anecdote.
life_questions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on what you consider verifiable - http://www.ibtimes.com/how-much-do-panhandlers-make-new-york-city-homeless-man-earns-200-hour-sitting-2181312
But in reality - most of them probably live like this - https://thinkprogress.org/everything-you-think-you-know-about-panhandlers-is-wrong-36b41487730d
And overall, research is pretty dang limited because there isn't much money in finding out the finances of true panhandlers/beggars - http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/the-millionaire-panhandler/Content?oid=10627133
But who knows - they could be like this guy - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/23/shane-warren-speegle-says_n_1694577.html
Or this one - http://www.kcra.com/article/self-proclaimed-professional-panhandlers-net-182-an-hour/6410369
I'm not making any assertions at all in my statement - just /r/theydidthemath
stilesja ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:07:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be happy with $3.50
c9IceCream ยท 704 points ยท Posted at 16:26:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
making $300-$500 daily is very viable. I know where I live, we're encouraged not to give money to homeless. There are plenty of shelters and food banks here. Giving money just creates this problem or perpetuates other problems.
ithinarine ยท 326 points ยท Posted at 16:52:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But she doesn't need to beg. They've got money, she could be doing anything she wants. She could golfing, playing tennis, going out for dinner, shopping, yet she decides to beg and take people's money.
That's what makes the least sense to me. Not that she doesn't need, but that this is how he CHOOSES to spend her time, when she doesn't need to.
[deleted] ยท 280 points ยท Posted at 17:06:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
Socrates_Burrito ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 17:52:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It also seems terribly degrading and tiresome and monotonous. If you don't have to do it, I still have no idea why you would.
Bakoro ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:28:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The boredom I think is the worst part. I started doing a security gig while I finish up school, and standing around with nothing to do is surprisingly hard.
If I could sit and watch paint dry I'd at least be able to shut my brain off, but I have to stay just alert enough to be aware of my surroundings, and there's not really any groove I can fall into.
Shit seems like it should be the easiest thing, and it's fucking killing me. I don't see why anyone would willing choose to stand and do nothing when they could be doing, virtually anything else.
transc3nder ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:19:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost all the rich people I know are incredibly stingey and thrifty. I guess you don't get to be wealthy by frittering away your dosh paying your way, right?
InVultusSolis ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:38:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let's not mince words or advocate ambiguous ideas: You become rich by making a lot of fucking money. The typical "rich people penny pinching" is just that person being an asshole. If someone makes $1 million a year, not ordering a slice of cheese on their Whopper to save $.30 isn't even worth the time it takes them to argue about it; they just get off on being difficult and making other people miserable.
Edit: To put an even finer point on it: These rich penny pinchers usually drive BMW's, Jaguars, Mercedeses, etc. To me, a car like a BMW sounds like a cheapskate's nightmare... Expensive to buy, expensive to insure, and especially expensive to maintain. You want to know how a true cheapskate rolls, you look at the master: my dad. He has a 1992 Toyota Celica. The body panels are all rusting out and it's had wiring problems out the ass, but somehow the thing just won't die. He keeps it on the road, making repair after repair, spending sometimes weeks scouring junkyards.
mainfingertopwise ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:44:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't shoplifting kind of a trend for wealthy and bored people for a while?
UndergroundLurker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she's addicted to painkillers and her other expenses are carefully tracked.
bassinine ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:04:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i'm surprised you haven't noticed that a good general rule is that the more money someone has the more selfish they are with money.
you don't get rich giving money away to homeless people, you do get rich saving every dime you earn and spending only the money you've swindled from other people. to a lot of people it's not about having enough money for what you need and want to do, it's only about having as much money as possible. i have family members like this, have millions in the bank but will freak out over a dollar.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How much a dollar cost?
bassinine ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:25:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if you're rich a dollar cost $.50, if you're poor it cost $2.00
RichardDixxon ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 17:39:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, this is fucking retarded.
bassinine ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:46:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
do you understand what jokes are?
RichardDixxon ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 17:51:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jokes? What's funny about a fucking retarded statement that doesn't make sense?
Cannibichromedout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:57:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here Dickie, have a snickers.
wtfduud ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I take it you hear the word "retarded" often?
SnakeAColdCruiser ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:38:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
do you have a job? do you "swindle" your paycheck?
bassinine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i think you misread something. a paycheck is money you earn, which is why i differentiated 'earning' from 'swindling' in my post. swindling is obtaining money in an unethical but legal manner.
SnakeAColdCruiser ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 17:46:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so you earn your paycheck, rich people swindle theirs. got it.
Cannibichromedout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's going on with you? Is everything okay?
SnakeAColdCruiser ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:27:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah man just making fat stacks
bassinine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not at all what i said. if rich people earn it ethically then it's not swindling. this is not very complicated and i'm surprised you're having such a hard time understanding it.
rondosparks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever played runescape? Go to the grand exchange. People beg for money. Eventually people give it to shut them up. repeat. Its simple and it works.
LonelyPleasantHart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wynona Rider didn't need to shoplift either.
__Hello_my_name_is__ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:03:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why the story probably isn't true.
Edit: I stand corrected.
beejmusic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:11:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is, though.
WHAT NOW, SUCKA?!
Macedwarf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but aren't homeless people evil with their huge mansions and liveable incomes?
__Hello_my_name_is__ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Livable? Didn't you read? $300-$500 daily, easily! That's $6000 these guys make a month, minimum.
That's even more than you can make working from home, if the totally trustworthy emails I constantly get are to be believed!
somedude456 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because she can make good money just walking around in decent weather. She probably only does it like 6-8 months of the year and only when not raining.
Hows_the_wifi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could be a sympathy thing. She craves the attention and sympathy she garners from people "donating" to her.
abraxsis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of reminds me of all the celebs that get caught shop lifting. It's like their status quo is so monotonous to them they have to do this crap to break it.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:47:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My neighbor has a nice car, a big house, and goes on vacation every year with his family. I don't know why he goes to work every day--he has money!
PoliticalSafeSpace ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:57:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually really simple to me I'm surprised more people don't see it. Trump has had this same problem at time. Asset rich, cash poor. All your cash is tied up in this or that. Your car. Your home. Some business. Investments that require more time to become accessible. I bring up Trump cause he's got a quote where he's telling his daughter a homeless guy in NY with a quarter in his bucket has more cash than Trump had access to at the time. Debts and obligations. This was likely a faster way, and cheaper way, to get cash, and not lose out on things like disability for making too much money, by getting it in a way where you don't have to report it.
SadPenisMatinee ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:45:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. Around Minneapolis there are a ton and I worked at Catholic Charities for a while and most of them lived at a facility where they can drink. (All chronic alcoholics) they 100% spend the money on booze. Just feeding their habit.
Snowboarding612 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:20:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lived in Uptown for a year and half, and it was the same 2-3 people at the corner off 35 for the whole time I lived there.
JVonDron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, several intersections on the way to work have 4 people there every day, especially on Minnehaha. I also work across from a liquor store, so I see drunks come shuffling along to pick up their cheap booze and shuffle back. I've had to call ambulances and cops on them every so often as they pass out, get into fights, and just be disruptive to the neighborhood.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:05:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should seek help, seriously.
bgovern ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:11:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here in Albuquerque nearly every corner has multiple people begging almost 24/7. I see some of them wearing their Patagonia jackets with their North Face backpacks sitting nearby. It has to be lucrative or people wouldn't do it.
hormonal_society ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:28:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Source?
daimposter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:37:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Total bullshit. If $300/day+ was easy, lots and lots of people would be doing it
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:42:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not. Used to be homeless. People who tried this would get the shit beaten out of them.
c9IceCream ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:30:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i'm in texas. every place has its own laws. Its also pretty easy to look up info on professional panhandlers.
hormonal_society ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:46:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes I googled it and found nothing reliable. I think you're wrong
c9IceCream ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're Incompetent
hormonal_society ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:09:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, you can't read. Second result from your google suggestion:
http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/the-millionaire-panhandler/Content?oid=10627133
...
Learn to read, it will save you embarrassment in life
MuttinChops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate panhandlers. Growing up in Philly you never knew if you were about to get ran up on, or if they were trying to sell you water.
Never got ran up on, but my uncle got robbed twice by a "panhandler."
BeeQueenbee60 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:46:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people who beg, are homeless, and can make around $300/day (Montreal paper). Others have apartments/homes and possibly jobs/or on welfare, but do it for extras cash (which is untaxable).The ones in that article lived under an overpass. Also, quite a few young people who do this (US paper), are from well-off families. Some of these people will eat free meals at shelters, while they travel across the US.
holejumper ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:01:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister use to beg for money a few years ago to get bus fare., according to her she could get $10 within 15 minutes.
We aren't from a well-off family by any means, but we're not dirt poor either.
CrisisOfConsonant ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:19:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It really helps if you're a moderately attractive girl.
I work with this guy, a real cheap bastard with everything. But one day he was out and this girl comes up crying about how she lost her train ticket to DC and she needs money to get a new one so she can get home. Dumb fuck gave her $20. She hit him up again with the same sob story a few weeks later.
She hit me up with it before but I told her to fuck off. If I feel bad for any beggers it's the late 30's and 40's ones because society just doesn't give a shit about giving that demographic charity.
holejumper ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:25:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yea, I am totally aware that my sister was only able to do it because she was a 16 year old teenager.
I doubt somebody would give as much to an old guy.
daimposter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:37:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Source in $300/day? Is that one or two individuals that did that?
BeeQueenbee60 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One. Sometimes they'd bring a dog, which would get more sympathy and more money.
daimposter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:31:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't doubt some people can scam well off panhandling. It's just not going to be that many that are dedicated or talented enough to do it daily.
choufleur47 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:59:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
kleptomania. I don't think that millionaire woman did it for the money but there are people doing it for the money.
metaphorm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:34:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd bet that she had no money of her own and overspent her allowance (because shopaholic or something)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:22:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like it's probably more about the enjoyment of exploiting people in secret than the actual need for money.
HungerForHipHop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:36:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my boss made a great point the other week when we saw someone panhandling on a corner in Denver...I asked him, "wouldn't that be boring? Why don't they just get a job?" and he replied, "they wouldn't be doing it if they weren't making good money."
It's kind of sad, I stopped giving my money to homeless people for about 6 months now.
hybroid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:48:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Beggars in London make about ยฃ50,000 a year give or take. Tax free. That's more than the majority of working class people.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/beggar-who-earned-50000-a-year-and-lives-in-300000-fulham-flat-is-arrested-again-8646973.html
ir0bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lived in Denver for 10 years, and there was this one particular intersection I went through often that was always populated by a youngish looking homeless woman. Then the next day it would be a different woman, and third woman the day after that. Eventually there was a story in the paper about this group of women who were students at University of Denver (a super expensive school), who took turns rubbing some dirt on their faces, putting on the rags, and panhandling at the corner. That was their full-time job and it paid enough for them to afford their tuition, and with their combined resources, they roomed together in a super expensive, upscale apartment.
After the story came out, I never saw them there again.
Blog_Pope ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dementia? There was a woman who looked/acted homeless in a town I worked in selling Pizzas. She actually owned a nice house, but her husband was gone. I don't think she begged, though people offered her money.
The problem with this sort of ambush "journalism" is she could easily owe more on the car than its worth, so selling it could be bad versus just not paying until its repossessed, and hoping you'll get a job before that happens.
Mitch_from_Boston ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:39:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A professor in Boston did it as an economics experiment. He got like $60k/yr out of it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
About 10 years ago there was a news segment on the local Sacramento Fox Affiliate where they investigated this. One of the people admitted they would spend their weekends by going to San Fran and just panhandling all day.
They said it would get them fresh air, exercise and a bunch of tax free income. These people were working typical 9-5 office jobs
politicalGuitarist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The rich (some of them) don't get rich by spending and giving.
Joliet_Jake_Blues ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Free money from stupid people.
I've thought of doing this for a day just to see what it's like. But with my luck I'd get shanked.
hula1234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lucky Shanks sounds like a cigarette flavored breakfast cereal.
obarnesmorgan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are ones in London earning ยฃ75-200k a year. If you have a dog with you the money triples because nobody wants to see a dog go without.
toronto_programmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work and live in Toronto and there are a few cases like this, you know which people are the regulars
One of my coworkers used to occasionally chat with a pan handler who always sat in front of my office. He said he could usually pull in 300-400 cash a day, and had an apartment a few blocks away with a big screen TV etc etc. Guy even had an iPhone. Of corse when his "shift" was over he would hop onto to bus and tell the guy he had a bad day collecting to get a free fare
That said he wasn't without his issues. He would sometimes disappear for weeks at a time and when you saw him again he would tell you he had saved up 5k and went on a cocaine bender with a friend
HoTs_DoTs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could also be mental illness. Only way to find out if the said person(s) went to court and loss and we found out why.
cricketfluffernutter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One guy at an intersection in Michigan said he makes $60k/yr. Since that's tax-free, that's equivalent to a $75k/yr job.
OhBestThing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. How much could you possible make...
Nowhere_Man_Forever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stand outside for an hour, two people give you $10 bills. You just made $20 in one hour (in cash), more than the vast majority of Americans. If you stand outside for a few hours, you'll probably average that. All just from standing outside and having no shame.
sotomoto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A man in Cambridge, ma put 3 kids through college begging for money in the same spot for many years.
GullibleFool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They can make a killing. Some dude in Norway pretended to be homeless for a week a while back. He sat on a bridge connecting the train- and buss station in the capital. He made 35,000 NOK in a week, which is about $4,200.
dontgive_afuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mental disorder
Nauvio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine almost disowned his mother when he found out she was using his 2 year old sister. According to him she made over $1k USD a weekend because of the baby.
Paranoidas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately, panhandling in some areas can earn you more money than an entry-level job. Sometimes it can even earn a decent living. Plus, as already mentioned, its tax-free. I have a former friend who traveled the country begging for money and gas. When he got home I learned that he still had several hundred dollars in the bank. Some people just have no morals and will do anything for money.
lycoris_collective ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some do it for the money, those who don't need the money do for attention or for the thrill.
One time I was panhandled but the guy legit taught me a lesson in the process, so he earned his money.
Z0di ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol, I did this for a few weeks when I was 14.
I made about 60$/hr.
It pays really really well.
FootofGod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sociopaths
xxmindtrickxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's drugs, their partner cuts them off financially but doesn't know what to do to get them better so they go panhandle to get money for drugs and alcohol
dbx99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1) you get some money (but obviously, there isn't a need for it, so it's not the chief motivator) 2) you get SYMPATHY. People are nice. People will roll down their windows and will give you a dollar but also some really comforting words. I suspect this person got addicted to it. This outpouring of love from strangers. 3) you feel like you're living out some kind of martyr fantasy. This implies some mental and emotional problems you need to get counseling for. 4) hey get some sun!
Renimar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remember, in Canada there are $1 and $2 coins so reaching into your pocket and dumping change can get net a panhandler more than you think in Toronto.
brandonsamd6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a chapter in Chuck Palahniuk's Haunted about this which is a pretty interesting read (completely fictional)
DavesMomsTits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people are scum. It's really that simple.
DefconDelta88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They do. There's a surprising amount of people who do this, actually. It's tax-free money, it's easy money, and you wouldn't believe how much income some people get doing this. We had a problem with non-homeless "homeless" people in my area a while back that really exposed the issue, though I can't say it was ever resolved.
snowdog_93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No kidding. You'd think the embarrassment of it all would outweigh the benefits of whatever change you get.
Tyler1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For a while last summer two teenage girls would sit off a busy freeway exit on the bumper of their car with a sign that said out of gas. They were there about a week before I saw the cops talking to them one day omw home.
Wake_and_Blake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People have given financial reasons but I think it might be a slightly deeper thing.
The only reason I can come up with would be that they want people to feel sorry for them. In a world where they already have all the money they could ask for, are successful, and are rarely ever looked down upon, they crave that sense of unconditional love you get from a stranger helping you in a time of need.
I can't imagine someone that successful would do it simply for MORE money, that seems like low hanging fruit to me... seems more like a psychological thing where they want sympathy so bad they'll delve into extremes to get it, even if it isn't authentic.
bakela ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Talking to a guy in the suburbs of Vancouver, he said his record for panhandling is $300 in a day and he hits $200 once every few weeks.
Whatsthisaboot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because you obviously don't understand how much money a person can make in a day on the right corner. You can have $500-$1000 days doing this. Find a busy intersection, dress and look like a bum with a sign and run window to window. extra points if your a child or women.
TheDevilsHorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I've heard people in big cities can make a few hundred an hour.
CrisisOfConsonant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:16:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty much called lies.
If you listen to any old idiot you can hear anything.
PMYourGooch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guarantee you this isn't happening unless they're an extremely talented musician or another kind of street performer. Source: Live in NYC and hardly see anyone giving money to homeless people.
talones ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:18:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
because why not. Also who gives a shit.
PmMeYourAttributes ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:23:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They do it so they can afford $1million mansion. Cleaning car windshields at crossroads is also lucrative business.
zzy335 ยท 1424 points ยท Posted at 17:05:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hah this was the 'shaking woman' at Yonge and St. Clair. She was a local celebrity and EVERYONE gave her their change. She never spoke, she just sat on the corner of a very busy intersection and acting as though she had a neurological disorder. She did this for years and collected hundreds of dollars per day. She was actually well liked. So one day a Toronto Sun reporter followed her home. After she did her shaky disabled walk to the St Clair subway, she took it to the outskits of town, threw away all the food she had been given, and her walk was miraculous fixed when she changed out of her begging clothes and jumped into a mercedes SUV, owned by her husband. The day that story ran she was never seen or heard from again. People were absolutely furious as she had totally fooled everyone.
yamiatworky ยท 192 points ยท Posted at 17:56:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That kind of makes me think about people who fake illnesses in general, for sympathy or attention but a step up the chain into conning people for cash.
Like there's probably some sort of underlying mental issues but mostly they know what they are doing.
thegeneraldisarray ยท 178 points ยท Posted at 18:39:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A dude I've seen at my old regular bar would act deaf and hand out pamphlets with common hand signs, and would ask for a donation.
After the marks would leave, he talked completely normally and laughed about it. We at the bar are a working class bunch and he nearly got his ass kicked as he was told never to return by the owner.
Same bar, a girl was in the parking lot with a kitten, saying it was starving and she just wanted to get him some food. I offered to buy some across the street at the minimart, but she wouldn't do it. I told her she better damn well feed that cat or I would personally kick her ass. And I better not see her anywhere around the bar again. I couldn't just take the cat or anything and I was NOT giving her money.
Fuck those people. Just awful human beings.
CalmQuit ยท 188 points ยท Posted at 17:16:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like the scene from The Usual Suspects.
edit: SPOILER (also shame on you if you haven't seen the film already)
[deleted] ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 18:07:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fixed it for him.
dshoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:10:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I need to re-watch that movie. Damn.
Crustice_is_Served ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 18:14:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This always reminds me of the scene in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince where Snape kills Dumbledore.
ReallyForeverAlone ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:59:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Naw man you have to look at it like this: all that begging and some random rich dude decided to marry her Cinderella style and give her a fresh start. IT'S A MIRACLE!
Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:22:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you ever hear of Langdon Reid? The journalist who uncovered it? He ended up going missing 14 days after the story went to print. I mean fucking gone. Never heard from, never seen, nothing. Which strikes me as odd - I mean, you come off one of the biggest expose stories in the city, you're gonna move up, a story that would make a career and vanishes. They suspect it ended up much worse for him, but have no proof it occurred.
BeeQueenbee60 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:17:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the one! I always wondered what happened to her. Thanks for the update.
Iqshala ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:18:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's why I don't give money to people asking for money on the street. Most work for a cartel that picks them up when they're done working.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:25:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most?
sydneyzane64 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:31:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Most" seems excessive.
its-ender ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:38:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cartel? like the Cashaloa? or maybe the Guadanychanja?
Iqshala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just some random criminal organisation
PrideOfAmerica ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:15:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I saw that in the second John Wick documentary
spankymuffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So strange. She's not doing it for the money, clearly. Maybe she just likes the theatrics. Or it's a way to interact with people because she's lonely. Well, or maybe she just feels useless not working and can't find a job. Or she won't demean herself working a job as "herself," where people will know it's her and think she's going through hard times or something while she's not.
[deleted] ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 17:14:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got it!!! If we stop donating money, then there won't be any homeless. It's genius!!!
tasmanian101 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 17:38:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Donate it to homeless shelters or food banks that can inturn provide food and shelter. Else you run major risk of directly feeding an addiction or sometimes scammers.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:42:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
Unnormally ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:55:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donate to drug dealers, so that they can provide drugs to the needy.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:28:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shelters and food banks aren't the best either. If you aren't a female or a child you are treated like a criminal.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:41:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it's a joke. I'm not wealthy enough to donate anyway, unless I want to live like a monk.
ListenToTheStooges ยท 342 points ยท Posted at 17:44:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. The Shakey Lady. She used to sit on a blanket outside the Bloor/Yonge subway station with a sign that said "Please Help. God Bless" and just...shake. She was actually a really pitiful sight and you'd often see her blanket covered in loonies, toonies, even fives and tens. Then a reporter from the Toronto Sun followed her to her Dodge Escalade, tailed her to her upscale condo in Mississauga, and exposed her. It turned out that she was not only fake, but she was also selling instructional videos online to her home country showing people how to make money panhandling in Canada.
EDIT: Cadillac Escalade. Apparently I can't car.
Futhermucker ยท 134 points ยท Posted at 18:20:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a dodge escalade huh?
ListenToTheStooges ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 18:24:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Very rare.
Cosmic_Ostrich ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:15:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, what a piece of human garbage.
ckozler ยท 227 points ยท Posted at 17:04:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is big in Boston too that I learned. I legitimately saw a beggar get up and walk over to a Mercedes Benz and get in and drive way. I'm willing to bet someone didnt drop those keys in their cup.
longhorn617 ยท 156 points ยท Posted at 17:55:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure if he's still there, but there used to be a guy in Boston who would basically walk from Back Bay to the Financial District everyday begging for cash while walking his massive dog, which I believe was a Newfoundland. My dad saw this guy all the time but never gave him money because "poor people don't own Newfies," which I would say is objectively true given the amount of food they eat. He saw the guy get dropped off by a private driver/limo one day near BPL and pretty much has his suspicions confirmed.
elastic-craptastic ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:19:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a guy that would stand just off Copley by a store 24 in the 90's I saw get into a BMW. He was there daily.
Another dude I saw in chinatown day after day on the same corner. Never said a word and never asked for money. Just sat on the same corner all day. I never figured out what his deal was. I just assumed someone owed someone money and he sat outside the business all day as a threat or something... still bugs me almost 20 years later.
SaberDart ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:20:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Houston checking in. Same shit, different place.
DukeNukem_AMA ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:39:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got one for you. There's a lady in downtown Montreal who walks on those European style crutches and asks for people to help her cross the street.
My friend and I unknowingly almost saw some woman fall for it when a random additional person approached them and said that it was a scam, and that she steals your wallet while you are trying to carry her across the street. She then started yelling in French and swinging her crutches at the person who called her out.
BeeQueenbee60 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:28:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Montreal! I'm glad you commented about her. I'll keep an eye out for her.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:30:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in mississauga and i used to see her allllllll the time..horrible fucking woman. She was filmed being picked up in a Cadillac one time.
FirebotYT ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:03:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember that story. While trying to find it I found a few more recent ones.
https://youtu.be/zPEkH6lg24g
http://www.torontosun.com/2013/02/14/infamous-sticker-lady-makes-a-return-to-yonge-st
A woman in trouble (especially playing the role of a sweet disabled homeless woman) pushes the compassion level to extremes and causes people to donate more than they would a typical homeless man. It can be very lucrative as shown in the video.
There is also the fake buddhist monk that was a pretty popular scam a few years ago. They push a worthless medallion on you and ask for money. How can you refuse a monk?
Ive had a british guy come to me asking for money for gas (mind you this was downtown with no gas station around), his car was out of gas a few blocks away and was looking for 10$ to buy a canister so he can go back. He was decently dressed and showed he had quids but no one would take it (this is in Canada) I gave him 2$.
2 weeks later he comes up to me again, with the exact same story clearly forgetting he did this on me before. I let him do his whole speech, wallet waving act, I told him he needs to use a new line if he wants to try to scam people a second time.
bleeetiso ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:59:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also like the squeegee kids in Toronto fiasco where there were a bunch of "homeless" kids who forcibly cleaned peoples car wind shields at stop lights and demand money after. The Mayor launched a war against them and had the police arrest them on the street corners where they worked. It turns out that majority of the kids lived in mansions and had well off parents who had no idea their kids were going out and pretending to be homeless youth.
unbelizeable1 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:32:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My great uncle has a LOT of money. He's told me about a few times where he's been traveling in a different city or country and pretended to be homeless for the day to see who would give him money. Only difference was that when people gave him something he'd give them $100 and tell them to keep being a nice person.
ylsf ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:30:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was this shaky lady or someone else? I am forgetting who is who, I think shaky lady just had a nice apartment/etc and she didn't even "shake" normally and just put it on as an act to get peoples money.
Cosmic_Ostrich ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:14:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he/she meant to type "there was this" rather than "this was the", which is confusing.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:49:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sauce?
backcountrycamper ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:17:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure that was the "shaky lady" - as in her shtick was tremors and age. After the Sun exposed her, she took off to MTL and continued her shenanigans. The same damn reporter caught her there too. http://www.tribemagazine.com/board/threads/husslin-homeless.5073/
Sadly I can't find any of Mike Strobel's old articles, just the Tribe forum. Further aplogies that I also can't locate a related post from Mike and his Montreal dealings with her.
thegeneraldisarray ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:34:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The pink-haired homeless woman in the Appleton area was also featured here on reddit, and reading the comments about people who actually ask you to go to an ATM for them.
Then, a day later on Friday of last week, I get a white dude in a nice truck at the gas station ask me for a couple bucks and I said I don't carry cash, he then asked me to put $5 on my card for him please for gas - remembering the thread, I just told him sorry, no.
Feels bad sometimes having to turn someone down who may really need the help, and it infuriates me when I see the players out doin' their thang.
jcchef ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:35:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think i remember this one. She had a driver drop her off and pick her up and load her wheelchair she didnt need into the trunk everyday. Heard she was caught and eventually owed a huge amount of unpaid taxes on years of panhandling income.
its-ender ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:35:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I remember this!
CircusSizedPeanuts ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:48:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Happened here in hamilton. A woman "panhandled" using her disability. Someone followed her and watch her get into a super expensive car and drive to a huge house. She was exposed in the newspapers and on TV. A couple of months later she showed up in Toronto doing the exact same thing. She was exposed again and I think she just sort of disappeared. People are fucked
cotch85 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:01:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know morally this is wrong, but is it actually illegal? I'm glad she these people get exposed, but is it actually illegal? If not, then i don't see what the deal is.
Mendican ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:20:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surly there's a link if it's that memorable.
YGaddict ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's from 2002, I can't find the original article but it's mentioned here since there was a new scammer of the same nature. But this lady is called shaky lady apparently, if you wanna search.
PMmeYourNoodz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:04:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Toronto $1M will buy you a 2 bedroom condo, not a mansion.
deans28 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that the one that used to hitch a ride from Barrie to Toronto every day so no locals could recognize her?
__Hello_my_name_is__ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Source, for those interested.
dudenotcool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to be fair she is homeless. However, she is not mansionless
StickyCarpet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:23:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had this one "homeless" guy beg from me, and he must have forgot that he was carrying freshly dry-cleaned dress clothes.
My policy is to start at my own doorstep, and get to know the needy people in an expanding radius from there. Offer attention, acquaintance, interest, and then see if I can do anything to help them.
KrishanuAR ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:37:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where are these mansions near Toronto that only cost $1m??
clwu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:43:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Source?
nespid0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's so sad that's the working class poverty line in Toronto.
manolid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was she the one who would sit at Yonge and Eglinton and was followed to her Mercedes by a news crew?
dbx99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guys, guys... it was just a social experiment!
BassSounds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a kid, I remember millionaires doing this in San Francisco in the very late 80's.
Wulm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$1m dollar mansion? In toronto? I believe it would be a nice house. But a mansion?
TheHatedZebra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I took a class in college and we played this game called professor or homeless.
Social experiments are ridiculous.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not finding anything. Can you link the story please?
Sanders-Chomsky-Marx ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:53:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it pays that much, why don't you quit your job and go do it? These stories about rich beggars exist to assuage your guilt. They don't need to be true, or even make sense, it just needs to make you feel validated in doing what you were going to do anyway.
Oturo_Saisima ยท 250 points ยท Posted at 17:56:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Can't assume I'm homeless"
Has a sign which says she's homeless. Fair.
Totallydidntgetgold ยท 1783 points ยท Posted at 16:25:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Virginia too, and it's crazy how many pan handlers I see on my commute. The sad thing is, pan handling is usually more profitable than if these people just worked at retail or food services.
[deleted] ยท 895 points ยท Posted at 17:00:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to live in Charlottesville. Panhandlers were literally at every intersection year-round. I used to be the kind of person to cave easily and give somebody money who was asking for it, but if I would have given money to everybody who was asking me for money I would be broke right now.
I tried to be kind hearted and would offer to take a person begging for money to supposedly buy food into the nearest fast food restaurant and get them something, but after doing this probably 10 or so times, I only had one person ever actually go inside with me. The rest of them insisted on cash and then hurled profanities at me when I refused.
I specifically remember one guy approaching me who did not look homeless and he started chatting me up on the downtown mall. Charlottesville's a very liberal and friendly place, so I thought this guy was just looking to talk. I had my Bose noise cancelling headphones around my neck and he started asking me about them and how I liked them. We talked for about 10 minutes and then at the very end he asked in a very coy way if I had any cash to give him because he was hungry. I told him no and then a dark look came over his face and told me that I was a bitch ass mother fucker and then he stormed away. Fucking asshole.
DragoneerFA ยท 245 points ยท Posted at 17:18:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lived in Philadelphia, and this was definitely a problem then. Panhandlers had places to go if they needed, and you could tell the legit homeless. But you'd see people like the above woman, and they knew to pick their targets.
There was a huge guy who used to hang outside Tower Records and go up to women only (his size was intimidating) and they'd hand him cash without hesitating just so they could keep walking. This guy was out there every night for about two years until he got busted.
He was on a busy intersection. I imagine the guy was able to make $50+ an hour. If not more.
Jusclalas ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 18:06:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Northern Virginian here. There's a street like five minutes away from my house which is PACKED with these people every day. The owner of a nearby dry cleaners told me that he sees these fakes arrive and organize each morning. It's ridiculous and could become even more if a problem if the skepticism they procure winds up catching actual homeless people in the fray.
DragoneerFA ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:38:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've bounced between Reston, Herndon and Manassas for the past few years, and (thankfully) not seen that. The one thing I do see is people at gas stations always begging for gas. It's always the same "I forgot my wallet" story, and it... frustrates me. It frustrates me because I've been in that situation, but I can't quite tell if people are being honest, telling the truth, or are just trying to squeeze out some cash for a free tank.
ninguen ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 18:17:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A young woman asked me for money to buy milk for her baby, and I told her that I would go to buy milk with her, she told me "no no no, that would take very long", I insisted that I wasn't going to give her money but if she really needed the milk I would buy it for her... she started getting very rude, so I walked away... and she yelled at me.
On the contrary, yesterday there was this young man juggling at a traffic light and I had a spare apple so I offered it to him and he was so happy :) made my day
BecauseTheyDeserveIt ยท 175 points ยท Posted at 17:27:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All too used to it by now. Being a native San Franciscan has led to me interrupting anyone who approaches me with a loud, stern "nope" with hard eye contact.
It's not even just that I'd be broke if I gave em each a quarter, I seriously don't have enough time in my day for all their spiels.
gibsonsg_87_2 ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 18:11:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C'mon man, I just need like $20 to get to Tennessee on a greyhound cause my brother got in jail and I gotta hide the evidence because he got like 20 kids and that's a lot of .youths to feed...
BecauseTheyDeserveIt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:31:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I couldn't find the clip and I'm too stoned to upload it myself so this is all you get but relevant: https://i.imgur.com/qRbDrvC_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high
diracdeltafunct_v2 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:22:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fellow Cville guy here.
I was finishing grad school and found a cheep place to rent for my last few months. There was a guy already living there in another room but I didn't get to meet him before I signed the lease.
Turns out hes living there, 40 years old and jobless, with his rent paid by his parents while collecting welfare checks. He spent his days sitting downtown panhandling with homeless/hungry signs. I ended up having him evicted but mommy just got him another place to rent while he stole from the community.
Moral of the story is, I don't give handouts directly to homeless. I'll donate to the food bank and shelters. Our panhandling is out of hand. 3-4 people on every corner and near whole foods every single day.
Ketchuphed ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:38:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was in Chicago recently and I saw the buy lunch instead of give cash backfire a little bit. We were walking into McDonalds and heard a gentleman talking to a panhandler. I heard them negotiating a food order. The gentleman came in shortly behind us and ordered the food. I saw him go outside and give the panhandler the food. Shortly after the gentleman walked away the panhandler came in demanding a refund and an upgraded meal because so much was wrong with his quarter pounder combo.
I try to see the good in people, but then I see interactions like that.
Ceramicrabbit ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:30:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One time I was eating at Christian's pizza on the corner with a girl who was a friend of mine and this couple comes up to me and the guy (completely unsolicited) asks me for some cash so he can buy his wife a slice of pizza. Keep in mind his "wife" is wearing a fucking North face coat and just stared at me angrily.
I wanted to tell them to fuck off but I didn't want to look like a dick in front of the girl I was with so I gave him $2 and felt like such an idiot. They probably saw me and thought I was on a date and there was no way I could say no, which ended up being the case I guess.
WorkFlow_ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:57:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is rather hurtful, I must say.
Peakomegaflare ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:13:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was actually driving back to Jax from Panama City yesterday, and I'm dressed somewhat nicely, as I had just had a buisiness casual lunch with friends before I had left. I'm sitting in a Taco Bell at this point, getting a quick snack for the last half of the trip, and a guy with earbuds in walks up, trying to look like he isn't focused on approaching me, but clearly is. I did my usual nod with a greeting of some sort, and he strikes up a conversation about how he could use some jumper cables. I tell him I dob't have any, and go back to my soda, thinking it was the end of it. He begins to go into a whole different story about his 22 years in the service, and asks where I'm from. Me being polite, I tell him from Jax, then he proceeds to go on about how his wife has his car, and he has hers, and she's in Jax visiting family and so on. My immediate reaction mentally screamed bullshit, especially when I told him I had to get going, right as I noticed he was going to ask for a ride. He tried to stop me multiple times, never bailed out of a Taco Bell so fast in my life.
AustinTransmog ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:36:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Austin, TX here. Same problem. And I felt the same way you did, went through the same progression. Used to feel bad. Now I don't.
However, I still like to help those in need. So, I save my help for the holidays. That person out on Christmas or Thanksgiving Day? Probably needs a bit of help - or, at the very least, is dedicated enough to come out while the rest of the world enjoys the holiday. So I find a particularly needy looking panhandler on a holiday and toss a couple hundred bucks their way. It's my charity contribution for the year, and it makes their day.
The_Gabagool ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:41:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Currently attending UVA and I walk passed the same homeless people on the corner almost every single day. You can only rely on other people's help so much before they stop feeling bad for you because you don't even try to help yourself.
9999monkeys ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:28:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, what an asshole. Such an asshole! I know the type. You described him well. I really enjoyed reading your comment. Such a great comment. You write so well. The story you wrote resonated with me on a deep level... I think you and I have a lot in common. I really do. I hope you can appreciate that I'm not a jerk either. Maybe we can be friends. Hey, by the way, you know, I'm a little light... You wouldn't happen to have any Reddit Gold on you would you?
undercooked_lasagna ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:50:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You only gave your side of the story though. For all we know, you are a bitch ass motherfucker.
lovesickremix ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Check your pockets, that's a good way to get swiped
dementorpoop ยท 146 points ยท Posted at 16:39:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's your answer as to why I guess. When beggars make more than workers, we really do have to address minimum wage.
Worktime83 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 17:20:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
plus they don't have to pay taxes.
DefconDelta88 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:25:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But something tells me plenty of these fake-homeless people will turn right around and complain about other people who don't pay taxes
This woman seems like the kind of hypocritical asshole that would do that.
SeattleOverSF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True but if they live long enough to collect SS, they'll receive much less than those of us that have worked our whole lives.
daimposter ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:42:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a really really stupid argument for a higher min wage
Chaotic-Catastrophe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:53:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Minimum wage won't change anything
dementorpoop ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:08:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's just like your opinion, man.
Chaotic-Catastrophe ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You honestly believe raising minimum wage will stop people from panhandling?
dementorpoop ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:16:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's a statement or the state of affairs when someone living off kindness in others can live lavishly, but a worker at the bottom rung will struggle to make ends meet. There is no incentive to stop panhandling. That's like taking a demotion.
charge- ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:40:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good panhandlers in major cities make something like 180 dollars an hour. Does that mean we should raise minimum wage to 180 dollars an hour?
dicknipplesextreme ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:47:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[Citation needed]
charge- ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:55:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.kcra.com/article/self-proclaimed-professional-panhandlers-net-182-an-hour/6410369 here is one.
Another scammer supposedly making a fortune http://www.cbsnews.com/news/scammer-claims-he-pulls-in-100k-a-year-panhandling/
https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2015/11/11/this-bum-boasts-he-makes-200-an-hour-panhandling/amp/ this guy makes 200 dollars an hour.
From what I've read a majority of panhandlers do not make nearly this much money, but a good amount in large cities do.
dicknipplesextreme ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:15:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first link talks about a family of two adults and two children making $183 from begging hourly. That's about $45/h per person, though I'd suspect the 5 and 7 year old are bringing in most of it.
The Kentucky handler bragged he made 100k, but obviously thats an unverified claim. Even then, it would only be $48/h.
The third is also an unverified claim (and the dude who made the claim, Will Andersen, hasn't been seen begging since), from The New York Post, which is a pile of sensationalist garbage. This was a story they put on a cover, so there's no doubt it's hammed up.
barrinmw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do we have actual evidence or just anecdotes. These people could be easily lying or the very rare exception. http://www.snopes.com/do-panhandlers-make-50-an-hour/ points out that the real evidence that people have collected shows that most of them make like $20-50 a day, and in Toronto, only about $300 a month.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Since when is the minimum wage dependent upon how much a person can make panhandling? That is about the most ridiculous economic argument I've heard in awhile. But I will bet you have no grasp of economics, do you?
dementorpoop ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 17:40:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If someone can make more standing on street corners with a sign that a minimum wage worker can working a full time job then there's something wrong. At no point did I claim a direct correlation, nor did I act like I was some economics genius or even try to put it in economic terms. I was making an observation of the plight of minimum wage workers and offered it as an argument for the case of minimum wage increase. Where is the incentive to work if I can pull that in chilling by traffic lights?
duhhuh ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:58:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say it is a much stronger indicator to the amount of disposable income and empathy (gullibility?) of the area.
daimposter ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And yet few people that aren't super poor are begging. So it's stupid to argue that our current min wage needs to be higher because of pandhandling. There are real economic arguments to be had, yours is not
Some panhandlers can make $30/hr+. Guess we should raise the mine wage to $40/hr
dementorpoop ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:07:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Y'all are really taking what I say to the extremes. There is a middle ground. At $8.25 that's just not a living wage. If a bum can make more than a worker, instead of seeing it like I'm saying the worker should make as much as the bum, see it as me saying the worker shouldn't look over and envy the bum. They should make a living wage. You and the other debaters are giving me hyperbolic numbers from your 30-50/hr to someone else saying a million a year. There is a middle ground. You guys are acting like you're either poor or rich, earning pennies or Benjamins.
daimposter ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:13:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good panhandlers can make $30/hr. So what? Why should the min wage increase because panhandlers make $30/hr? It would take something close to $30/hr min wage so they aren't jealous. Furthermore, regardless of what panhandlers make, it's beyond stupid to base any economic policy on that. Unless you had HUGE populations giving up jobs to panhandle, then it has no purpose in this discussion.
You Bernie supporters always give republicans a hard time about ignoring facts and logic....stop doing the same shit because you're embarrassing our left
Chaotic-Catastrophe ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 17:57:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they can? Like, if it's possible?
Ok then, here's a fun game. I call out sick to work today and decide to go stand on a street corner instead. Luckiest day of my life: a really, really good samaritan takes pity on me and hands me a briefcase stuffed with hundreds. I am now a millionaire.
How much should minimum wage be? $1,000,000/hour, or just $1,000,000/year?
daimposter ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:15:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The idiot won't respond. It was the stupidest economic argument I've seen get upvoted
dementorpoop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:26:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've responded to plenty of commenters, but when the same argument is made a few times I present my side to the top comment for the sake of continuity. You can just click on my name and see if I've responded or present a different viewpoint and I'd be happy to debate this further. You may even convince me.
yeoller ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:45:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They were saying when it seems more profitable to beg, people will beg instead of doing legit work.
daimposter ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 17:51:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And yet very few people are begging that aren't super poor....so it was a stupid statement to make
hommeprehistorique ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:56:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps because a lot of people have moral fibre that stops them pretending to be homeless for money, isn't really that stupid of a statement
daimposter ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:59:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So then if it's not an issue, why is it a factor?
Besides, some panhandlers can easily make $30+/he. Guess we need to raise min wage to $40/hr?
It's such a stupid opinion but of course Reddit wants to circlejerk over it
descender2k ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:48:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Certainly not as weak of a grasp on economics as you seem to have. This is economics 101. When the supply of "free money" is greater than the demand for labor... the price of labor goes up.
daimposter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have any research on the belief that the the US min wage should be raised due to potential revenues some small individuals can make via panhandling???
descender2k ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:14:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I made no such claim. When certain states and cities decided to legitimize panhandling they put those people in direct competition with minimum wage employers. In order to bring those people back into the workforce those areas would either need to raise the minimum wage to a point where it makes more sense to have a job than to beg or to recriminalize panhandling. Raising the national minimum wage would certainly be a brute-force method of solving the issue, but it is something that only occurs where panhandling is legal and therefore an unnecessary leap.
When you decriminalize panhandling you create an incentive for people to "fake it" because there is no consequence. In an area where it is criminalized only the truly needy are going to be doing it. The proper way to handle them is not necessarily to arrest them, but identify them and get them into the programs that will provide help.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:13:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. My graduate level Law and Econ classes haven't given me the ability to understand this. Gotcha. One has nothing to do with the other. A minimum wage job is never intended to be a living wage job. It is intended to be entry level often part time work so that someone can gain work experience and move up to actual living wage jobs. And if an employer can't justify paying someone more to do the job because the economics don't justify it, you don't raise the wage. It wasn't until the liberal left got their hands on this, most of whom haven't even dipped their toe in the water of the free market, created this fiction that the minimum wage was supposed to be a living wage. You are frankly wrong.
daimposter ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:17:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a left winger who follows facts, I 100% agree with you.
descender2k ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:16:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be blunt, nothing you just wrote is correct in any way. When you legalize panhandling you put those people in direct competition with minimum wage employers. The only way for the employers to bring those people back into the workforce to fill minimum wage jobs in those places is to increase the compensation. This would quite literally be the free market in action. You want to force the market to correct itself in the other direction, where the action of legitimizing panhandling has changed the local labor market in a way you no longer control.
It wasn't until you thought left/right wing politics had anything to do with true economics that you completely lost touch with reality. Your alleged education didn't teach you do be dispassionate to poor and uneducated people, your preconceived biases did.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever. You have no idea how I help the poor and I really don't give a shit what you think I know or don't know, do or don't do.
It was indeed the left that glommed on to raising the minimum wage with the argument that it was to be a living wage. And your free market argument is bullshit also. If the market drove min wage workers to panhandle instead, we'd see a lot more panhandlers than people trying to better themselves through more traditional means.
descender2k ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:27:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Panhandling isn't legal in many places, which is why you don't see so many of them.
You don't have to get angry, you certainly wouldn't if you have the economic education to back up your arguments. Or are you a trial lawyer? Or are you a research chemist? You tell a lot of stories.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of it is true. I'm a licensed practicing attorney and a published research chemist with two patents. That leads to running a few businesses.
Thanks for looking up my history. That's not creepy at all.
You probably don't understand that law and economics are very related. In fact Posner and Easterbrook are among the leading judicial economists in the world.
When you start and run businesses, you'd better have an economics background.
I can assure that most of those commenters on this thread have no economic background and I actually enjoy getting into it with people who clearly have no idea what they're talking about.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
daimposter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol. The idiot is the one pegging min wage on what some individual can do panhandling. I'm not the least bit libertarian either
daimposter ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:43:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He voted for Bernie. I guarantee it
altpoint ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:18:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You voted for Trump, I guarantee it.
...Or maybe you didn't, and making assumptions completely irrelevant to the conversation about others' political affiliation in order to fallaciously try and discredit their claims, is just a pretty shit thing to do.
Why not just directly refute his argument with proper economic counter-arguments if you don't agree with him? Instead of directly attacking someone for their "you don't now real economics" and "you're probably a Bernie supporter" and "I have an MBA and thus I'm automatically right and you're automatically wrong". Those aren't logical arguments at all, and you haven't refuted anything of what he said in any real tangible way, only personal attacks and appeal to your so-called authority. Which isn't even verifiable, since everyone has a PhD on the internet. If you truly do, I don't see why it'd be so hard to easily try and shortly explain why you disagree with him, with clear sound economic arguments and theoretical proof.
daimposter ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:37:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, I''m left wing and have never voted for a Republican. But the stupidity of arguing that min wage needs to be addressed because of panhandling is only something far left individuals would argue. It is not based on facts nor even logic. It's beyond stupid.
Now, if I argued "We shouldn't have a min wage at all", then it would be a good guess to say "you voted for Trump".
I did elsewhere. He wont' provide an research that would back up his claims nor will he give a sound logical explanation based on facts.
The purpose was to demonstrate that Bernie Sander supporters don't really understand economic issues. The guy couldn't back up his views with research or facts & logic. Bernie supporters get a pass too often on Reddit for ignorance on economic issues. It should be challenged and pointed out where Bernie economics is wrong...unless you want to remain ignorant for ideological reasons.
MrTrevT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't you didn't graduate high school, I guarantee it.
daimposter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got an MBA. But sure, lets make the very stupid argument that min wage needs to be higher because some small number of individuals can make more money from panhandling
MrTrevT ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:07:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't make any argument. Just making baseless claims the same way you are.
daimposter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:18:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The guy is arguing EXACTLY like Bernie does. I guarantee you that most people upvoting his stupid argument are Sander supporters
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a doctorate and own three businesses and there is no way I would have voted for Bernie because socialism has a finite life that usually ends up with economy fizzling out and those connected with the government class being the only ones to make it through. You youngsters are really gullible and easily led to believe that knowledge is the same as wisdom.
tianan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or doing so will cause fewer jobs and more beggars
dementorpoop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who told you it would decrease the number of jobs? You know the minimum wage has been increased before right? There are a plethora of studies showing the effects of a wage increase. It doesn't decrease jobs. It doesn't shoot up the whole amount over night, it takes months/years. You don't shock the economy but you have a destination with set dates in mind.
A1_ThickandHearty ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:50:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We need a minimum wage of $20 per hour
troutscockholster ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:00:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No we dont we need a cost of living based minimum wage
A1_ThickandHearty ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 18:01:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If only the Bernouts understood this
lgaarman ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:07:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We do
A1_ThickandHearty ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:10:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently not
lgaarman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:16:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a few people do not speak for everyone....
blanketswithsmallpox ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:59:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Make it $50!
FlexGunship ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:04:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You stupid capitalist shills... make it $500 so everyone can be rich.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:05:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Make it an even 73.19!!!
SnailPoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:26:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What an odd thing to say.
daimposter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:43:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Odd how I didn't even get the pun until your comment
bakdom146 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But then there will be more money to hand to panhandlers and they'll just be making more!
Edit: Fuck this guy below me for trying to politicize my stupid joke right before the thread got locked, now I can't respond to him.
A1_ThickandHearty ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If only the Bernouts understood this
Pinkist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:02:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's starting to become a problem in Rhode Island . Mainly Providence.
jjtonelli ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not only providence, Newport and middletown as well. Glad I'm not the only one seeing it.
jacoobz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:37:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably the rich people wanting more money.
jacoobz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen Warwick?
foxbluesocks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:36:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in NoVa and the pan handling is insane. You can't stop at a red light without someone asking for money. But the homeless population is also huge here. There's homeless camps everywhere- you can see them from 95. I never know who to give money to anymore...
Ualwaysmadbro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:49:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I scoff at your Virginia panhandlers. I can't remember the last time I was able to stop for gas to visit a convenience store without being panhandled. -Florida man
Unnormally ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:59:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anecdotal from NJ, but I see a pan handler at a busy intersection every day (Not necessarily the same person), and I've never seen anyone give them money. They hold their sign, walk along the cars stopped at the red light, and when it goes green, he walks back to the start. There's a concrete divider in the middle he walks on. It's a 6 lane road, 3 each way.
Though certainly I can understand panhandlers in some places making bank. I just don't see it here.
twinsea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They cracked down on pan handling in Loudoun Virginia as we kept getting pan handlers from different states commuting up here. They would literally stay at a hotel and spend months pan handling. You are now unable to pan handle without a permit. You notice OPs car is from Maryland and she is pan handling in Richmond. They migrate to well off areas with lax panhandling laws.
http://www.loudountimes.com/news/article/supervisors_ban_panhandlers543
ninguen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My SO told me about this man from his town who made 100โฌ/day begging for money at a traffic light... that's 2000โฌ/month free of taxes, given that he only "worked" on weekdays...
MikeDubbz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read some stat that panhandlers outside of Walmarts make more per hour than most people working inside of the Walmart.
TheSneakySeal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea how those people make any money I doubt it pays the bills.
somedude456 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once saw an interview where a dude said he could make anywhere from 20-80 if he "worked" a popular highway exit for 8 hours.
stugots85 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:10:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So that should tell you something about those jobs then...
rsyay ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:13:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're scum, worse than a thief
Rhombus_O_Terror ยท 2866 points ยท Posted at 16:48:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh...I just... the absolutely CRINGEY feeling watching her squirm and looking to random strangers for help knowing that her big ploy has been exposed. This is harder to watch than Scott's Tots.
StormFiles ยท 644 points ยท Posted at 17:09:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That episode is the only one I skip during my rewatchings of the office... just so awkward
TheSuperlativ ยท 353 points ยท Posted at 17:13:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing is harder to watch than Scot's Tots. I've watched and re-watched the show upwards of 7 times but I've only seen that episode once.
dropkickderby ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 18:31:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well you should go back and rewatch it, cause that episode is fucking hilarious. Especially Stanley's reaction remembering Scotts Tots.
BamaGenteel ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 17:45:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank y'all so much!!!! I really wondered if I was the only person who couldn't watch that episode again. When I saw it for the first time my buddy just died laughing, and I was like "Dude, this is fucking awful". The worst part is knowing we've all promised things before we knew we couldn't back up, and that episode shows us what happens if it were to ever come back on us.
Jefferncfc ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 17:59:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I swear I've seen this exact conversation before
d3l3t3rious ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 18:32:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, and it usually ends with this: /r/CannotWatchScottsTots/
_abba_zabba_ ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 18:33:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing is harder to read than another forced thread on Scot's Tots. I mean, I've read through the entire reddit upwards of 7 times and every time I get to another Scot's Tots thread I want to rip my fucking eyeballs out. Seriously, it's so cringe worthy someone should make a subreddit dedicated to it. /r/CantReadScotsTotsComments
War_Messiah ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:32:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the speech michael makes at Jim and Pam's wedding is a close second.. he goes on talking about unprotected sex in front of children and old people alike. It's just awful.
BamaGenteel ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:39:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While he's funny as hell, I think Michael Scott overall as a character is just so cringe-worthy. I mean, all of his interactions with women, his attempts to look important, just all of it has some sort of cringeworthiness to it.
Vanck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:12:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are not the only one by a long shot. I skip this episode every time too. It's so hard to watch. I cringe just thinking about it
aldehyde ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:02:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey Mr. Scott, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do? Make our dreams come true.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 18:21:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can struggle through Scott's Tots, what I can't deal with is The Dinner Party. It's just so hard to watch.
TheSuperlativ ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 18:23:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Dinner Party is easily in my Top 3 favourite episodes of the entire series.
Chriscrazy99 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:59:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/CantWatchScottsTots/
Graynard ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:29:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason Andy's Play is worse for me.
GiveMeHeadPhones ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:42:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/cannotwatchscottstots
tobiascuypers ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:53:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That and when he proposes to Karen at Diwali. Those are the absolute worst to watch
Jaimizzle14 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:40:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same! I am currently rewatching for the 8th or 9th time (not all seasons every time, since when I originally watched it there were less seasons), I've lost count, but I have no intention to watch Scott's Tots. I barely made it through the first time, never again.
stateofmind1994 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:52:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obligatory mention of r/CannotWatchScottsTots
PartyOfZero ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
R/CannotWatchScottsTots
jamesaclarkson ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 17:15:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey Mr Scott, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do? Make our dreams come true!
shizza_ ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:36:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're lithium!!
Professor_Wayne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, my favorite Michael Scott line ever
Zokusho ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:22:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite part of the video was that no one else gave a fuck.
mak6453 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 17:11:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We watched the same video, so I know where you're coming from, but nothing is harder to watch than Scott's Tots.
EternalXV ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:47:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/cannotwatchscottstots
LongEZE ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:08:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was expecting this to be one of those "We should create this board but it's nonexistent" type deals, but lo and behold, this one works.
I also hate that episode.
Thanks for turning me onto something new, btw. Here's a gold coin.
heywhatsupdude1984 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:08:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whatchu gonna do make our dreams come true.
littlekapkan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:39:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You put it into words!
EdmundXXIII ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:12:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But nowhere near as hard to watch as Bill Nye the Sex Ed Guy.
TheHottuB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They learned a very important lesson: Never Trust Whitey. jk
Thanks_cinco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just watched this episode again last night! So difficult to get through...
katieanyone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That episode made me nauseated
aveeight ยท 1466 points ยท Posted at 16:47:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love people's reaction to being filmed. "McDonalds drive thru worker, why are they filming me!!??!!" The guiltier they are, the more inane their reaction is.
HaiKarate ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:26:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She spends her days guilting people into helping her.
She was fearless in walking up to McDonalds employees and trying the same thing.
georog ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 16:54:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder whether they asked the McDonald's drive through worker for her consent before they made that video available online.
aveeight ยท 141 points ยท Posted at 16:56:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would doubt it, although she was incredibly composed given the random nature of that interaction.
HitlerHistorian ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 17:37:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That probably comes with the job of working a McDonalds drive thru
MrAlpha0mega ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:45:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. I did for a while. You see some odd stuff every so often.
MagicMajeck ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:01:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
like what?
MrAlpha0mega ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:27:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing that outrageous really. Lots of people driving drunk or stoned as hell. People constantly grinding their cars on the wall because they can't drive but need to reach the window. People who think it's funny to try to suprise us by, for instance (girls) driving through topless. Couples getting into end of relationship level arguments because one of them (usually the woman) can't decide what she wants and is holding up 15 cars behind her, or something equally ridiculous (though frustrating as hell, because now the argument is holding people up). Some really angry people, but it seldom gets physical. I've had someone shout at me about putting pickles on burgers as if he wanted me to go to the U.N. and get it banned. Not just his burger, all burgers. People constantly trying to become your friend in 30 seconds and then immediately trying to leveraging it to get free stuff. You know those things you use to slice cucumbers and such? Well, being a busy shitty place, obviously the safety guard goes missing and obviously it doesn't get replaced, but the cucumbers still need slicing. One of my co-workers lost the sking of the palm of her hand and fingers. I say lost, it was held on at the wrist, and they sowed it back up (That's not a drive through story though). A lot of people who assume because you work there, you're an idiot and they try to scam you when you give them their change:
Customer: "Hey I gave you $60 for that"
Me: "really, you gave me 3 $20 notes for a 12 dollar order?"
Customer: "Uh... yeah I did"
Me: "Reeeaaallly?"
Customer: "Yeah, I know I did."
Me: (to Boss) "Boss, we need to stop the entire drive through and count my till for this guy."
Customer: "Uh, nevermind I just, uh, found it."
But one good one where a guy freaked out so hard (and was threatening and abusing staff) about missing the breakfast menu that he ended up fighting one of the big Polynesian night-shift cleaners. Bad idea. The biggest one just picked him up and dropped him on his head in the parking lot. Ambulance was called, but it turned out he had just come from somewhere else where the cops had been called on him so his friends piled him in the car and they drove off.
Generally just low level stuff, but often enough that if this had happened it would just be a Tuesday.
murphysics ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:28:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
10am drunk people, I had a man introduce me to his wife which was a duffle bag, airhorns. During lunch/dinner rush everyone in the drivethru is hungry, which makes them more likely to be irrational, after dark the drunks show up in high numbers and we all know how that goes.
tayman12 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:59:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or she could just be like.. ya know... a chill person...i know a lot of people who dont work at mcdonalds that would act like that...
what_a_bug ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:28:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was literally the most normal customer she's had all day.
DefconDelta88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Christ I'd have been laughing so hard at that woman after about 10 seconds of that shit, like "Bitch are you fuckin serious right now?"
seductivestain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was also composed enough to hold in her laughter. Barely.
BrightNooblar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've worked drive thru. You need to be able to deal with copious amounts of random nonsense.
Salmon_Quinoi ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:20:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure they don't have to as there's no reasonable right to privacy while working at the drive through line at a McDonald's.
Heck, I'm not even sure if McDonalds would object. This doesn't make them look bad.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:09:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why are you under the incorrect impression that consent is ever a necessary component to displaying a video?
georog ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:21:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't claim it was illegal (though it most certainly is in certain states), but it would've been the decent thing to do - at least blur her face.
EDIT: The link above indeed only applies to private conversations. In the German speaking area, however, the situation is different: there's a notion of copyright for pictures that you're on (Recht am eigenen Bild) - if the picture shows you as one of only a few people (as opposed to a group of people), and you're clearly recognizable, then whoever took the video/picture needs your permission to publish that material.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:03:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to point out that it says in the link you provided that it would not be illegal in Washington for this recording to have happened without her consent. There is no expectation for the conversation to be private, there is no privacy expected in a MacDonald's parking lot.
Looking at the Two-Party Consent Law states show the same thing. This is a public place with no expectation of being private, no recording was done without knowledge of it occurring. Is there something I'm missing? The link you provided disputes what you are saying.
doctorjesus__ ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:06:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why do you phrase your questions like an asshole?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:55:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
confirmed: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/05/cop-sued-for-drawing-gun-on-man-filming-him/
TheBigCheese7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It seems like everyone's first reaction when being filmed is to film back then threaten to call the cops.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:38:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TBH if I've done nothing wrong, I'd be even more genuinely pissed if someone started filming me.
hellofellowstudents ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:12:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean I kinda get it. It's a pressured situation, and approaching someone else is an appeal to authority.
kurburux ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fires boss of FBI
WARNING_im_a_Prick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Inane in da membane
PesoMystic ยท 935 points ยท Posted at 17:54:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to get drunk in Saratoga Springs, NY a lot and disappear from my friends. They'd invariably find me talking to this homeless busker I had grown attached to. He had a guitar and as far as I can tell that was about it.
That being said, the dude could play and he took requests and told stories. I'd give him 20 dollars and he'd play Neil Diamond and Johnny Cash for me. His vocals weren't the best but he made it work. Even walked 15 minutes to the gas station to buy him USA gold 100's several times.
Miss that guy.
Also fuck this lady.
[deleted] ยท 148 points ยท Posted at 17:57:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your story is better than the post you commented on. Upvoted.
PesoMystic ยท 118 points ยท Posted at 18:25:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I suck at Reddit so that's no surprise. I just like to shout into the void.
HawterSkhot ยท 207 points ยท Posted at 17:18:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, her car is nicer than mine...
Mypopsecrets ยท 6744 points ยท Posted at 16:31:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the middle of recording "this has already gone viral"
Throwmeaway122456v ยท 4468 points ยท Posted at 16:50:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just like my left stroke
zGoldenGiraffe ยท 1703 points ยท Posted at 17:15:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right stroke put a lil baby in a spiral
my_othr_acnts_4_porn ยท 966 points ยท Posted at 17:24:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soprano C we like to keep it on a high note
bubblebobby ยท 741 points ยท Posted at 17:30:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's levels to it, you and I know
Heyyy-ohhh ยท 722 points ยท Posted at 17:40:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bitch, be humble.
todayilearmed ยท 352 points ยท Posted at 17:43:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sit down
DrChoppah ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 18:28:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BIYOMBO
Flobarooner ยท 287 points ยท Posted at 17:46:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be humble
CleanSanchz ยท 246 points ยท Posted at 17:54:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sit down
CrazyFart ยท 227 points ยท Posted at 17:56:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be humble
Hol up, hol up, hol up, hol up lil bitch
clev3rbanana ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:09:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sit down
RyanTV ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:35:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be humble
DrJetta ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 18:30:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bees bumble
CaptainPussybeast ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 17:41:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When r/hiphopheads leaks
1337m00nm4n ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 17:44:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no hhh had the decency to ban lyric threads
Ravenman2423 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 18:29:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck I thought I was legitimately the only one who thought lyric threads were the cringiest shit
CaptainPussybeast ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:55:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True. Maybe that's why they're doing it here? ๐
Castleprince ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:23:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More like, when r/KendrickLamar leaks
giannini1222 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:50:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
biyombo
sorry I guess that's not acceptable outside of /r/nba
ImReallyGrey ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:05:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing worse than a lyric chain, y'all corny as hell
Lester8_4 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:44:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always imagine a bunch of people googling what lyrics come next whenever these K dot song threads start.
sceIIaux ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah i just got into this album, soooo good!
TerminalReddit ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:46:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hol' up, bitch.
ownat ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:17:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ok stop
my_othr_acnts_4_porn ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:33:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I already stopped, not because you asked me to, but because I wanted to. #mybodymychoice
Waterskier87 ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 17:30:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there's levels to it, you and I know
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:37:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
CoyoteTheFatal ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 17:36:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's levels to it, you and I know
RatedRGamer ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:46:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i was in a dark room loud tunes looking to make a vow soon
milecai ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:31:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah its cool i didnt want the coffee i just spit out.
[deleted] ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 17:15:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sit down.
flykessel ยท 238 points ยท Posted at 17:38:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Biyombo
TrumpIsOurOnlyHope ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:55:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sihdown
AnnaKendrickPerkins ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:32:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Father?
motions2u2wipemyass ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:37:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently it's actually "be humble", I've been saying "biyombo" for weeks too doe.
destrekor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bitch, be humble!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
PollyWantsTeenSpirit ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No.
TheVileReich ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hold up bitch
mwrscs1 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 17:13:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something about a high note, be humble.
Cthulhu4President ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:39:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
saprano c we like to keep it on a high note
supersonicmike ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:20:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hope the baby is ok
raco35 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:14:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right stroke?
Rhett_Buttlicker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone not up to date on the hip lingo, what does that lyric even mean?
Creativation ยท 685 points ยท Posted at 16:57:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He does mention a news report on a local NBC station so it likely does have some level of notoriety.
bplaya220 ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 18:10:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea there have been a few stories in Richmond about fake panhandlers
theotherpachman ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:22:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly that's a little concerning cuz it suggests he saw the story, got outraged, and decided to track this woman down to make his own video on it. The lady is shitty but you get the wrong person doing that and she's in danger of physical harm.
[deleted] ยท 122 points ยท Posted at 17:24:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
chocoboat ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:02:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Broad and every road, every day. There are dozens of them.
Alexanderdaawesome ยท -62 points ยท Posted at 17:39:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are riding a fine line of doxxing rn. Careful.
Edit: I meant it is against community guidelines. Telling everyone on the Internet where she spanges is also a good way to incite violence against her. Jesus Christ get a grip reddit. may also be why the comments are locked.
Mtulncr ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:43:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone who lives in Richmond and saw the Broad St sign knows exactly where that is at. I know exactly where she begs for money. There is no doxxing. Anybody who knows the area can go see her themselves.
Alwaysahawk ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 17:41:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By naming streets in Richmond? No.
[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 17:44:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol what a vague and empty threat. Careful for what? Naming the cross streets of what appears to be a fairly large intersection?
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:42:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
AFineDayForScience ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:02:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was more curious about the un-blurred license plate on her car. Granted I have no idea what you could do with that information, but it's out there lol
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not personal information. That's an intersection. Name, phone number, actual residence would be personal. If there were a story about me and someone recognized me and said "hey I know him, frequently see him at publix." That wouldn't be doxing. So we're saying here, hey we know that lady. See her all the time at x and y streets.
lonjaxson ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:22:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
psst. you're on the same side as the person you replied to.
MTMzNw__ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:03:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't know what doxxing is, not even close.
david0990 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:00:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
even searching by the street names didn't make finding anything about her easier. only thing to find is this video. naming streets isn't even close to doxxing.
Creepy_Shakespeare ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:48:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol screw off
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:46:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[removed]
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:25:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
deleted What is this?
wtfduud ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:07:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
stupid games etc etc
Syphillisdiller1 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 18:02:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So he's panhandling for ad revenue with someone else's already reported story?
Creativation ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:20:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well one can create their own content/editorial from a previously covered story. Nothing wrong with that. This is almost rule #1 for news organizations.
ttrublu ยท 148 points ยท Posted at 17:10:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He said that the local news had already covered the lady's scam on their morning segment or something.
beepbloopbloop ยท 179 points ยท Posted at 17:14:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's Spaceballs style. What you're seeing is happening now. It's the latest in VHS technology.
Mypopsecrets ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:18:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now!?
Mr_Tchuwinsky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:29:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Name checks out.
I_FIST_CAMELS ยท 150 points ยท Posted at 17:03:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Facebook Live?
NewtonsFLS ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:08:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pandemic 2?
amajesticgayappears ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:08:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Civilization 6?
BRUTALLEEHONEST ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:24:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
6 / 2 = 3
Half life 3 confirmed
Resinade ยท 229 points ยท Posted at 16:55:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he was implying that the story was viral, they made it sounds like a couple of local news outlets had picked up the story. Not sure why the said it though, the story wasn't viral.
TriumphantTumbleweed ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:39:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say that's still considered viral. If it's on the news and being posted around Facebook, that's viral, even if only locally.
evanc1411 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:14:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it is now
MikeDubbz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:33:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, getting that top spot on Reddit definitely means that the internet has noticed.
johnnyshortdick123 ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 16:33:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's some nasty virus that makes something pre-viral.
Mypopsecrets ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 16:47:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I recorded your thought crime tomorrow, it's already on the front page of reddit"
Honkadoo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:13:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We did it reddit!
derekandroid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Minority Redditport
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this would be funny if it wasn't so close to the truth.
chappinn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:02:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Must be one of those viral computer viruses
inDface ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:06:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
get vaccinated
welestgw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Predictive Viral
IHoldSteady ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:20:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a post about her here with over 3k shares on facebook in the first day so it was fairly viral already. That was like 3(?) days ago I think.
6chan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:27:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he meant that her panhandling had already been covered by NBC or something (he mentions that at some point).
Blacklist3d ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:22:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It has to do with the fact that she already has a story about her being homeless when in reality she isn't homeless.
Trampolice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:14:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FB Live maybe?
clamps12345 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Paging Dr. Mantis Toboggan
Cosmic_Ostrich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe he's a time traveler?
Garconanokin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like that Savage Garden song where he talks about how he loved the woman before even met her
Swembizzle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People are already smashing that like button.
AllLooseAndFunky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It had went viral on the news and such, then these guys went out and filmed her.
mrdude817 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm facebook live! I'm live!"
bubblyhobo15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was on the news the other day in Richmond. I have friends that attend VCU
scoops22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's referring to other stories about her.
gervinho90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He was right tho it did.
gildedlattenbones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He stated on Facebook so it was probably live as well
falnatsha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He did mention Facebook just before that maybe one of them was doing Facebook Live?.
falcon4287 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
20 views on Facebook Live, and only 3 ad spammers!
Thedirtyjersey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah these guys are assholes too. They are trying to hide behind "citizens justice" but seem very focused on how notable their contribution is.
Enverex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saying something's going to go viral in a video is painfully cringy. It's like people on r/iamsosmart and r/quityourbullshit saying that they're going to post it there as it's happening.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:52:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really understand why people care enough to follow her and record the interaction. Doesn't everyone know that most panhandlers aren't actually homeless? Just don't give money.
mcoulton ยท 8406 points ยท Posted at 16:53:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Akron Ohio , the panhandlers all have to wear permits to panhandle or are arrested, they have to prove they are in need
jamesbretz ยท 891 points ยท Posted at 17:35:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was repealed - http://fox8.com/2016/05/10/akron-city-council-repeals-panhandling-ordinance-after-lawsuit-threat-from-aclu/
dtrmp4 ยท 425 points ยท Posted at 17:43:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Less than 2 weeks ago too.
edit: i can't read dates
jamesbretz ยท 414 points ยท Posted at 17:48:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually a year and 2 weeks ago
dtrmp4 ยท 204 points ยท Posted at 17:50:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh... yeah lol
socialisthippie ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:38:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And here I am still writing 1999 on checks in the grocery checkout line.
reincarN8ed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:35:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WHAT YEAR IS IT?!
KyrgyzManas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:36:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a disability too, you know? Feel free to beg for some money, maybe your local Drive Through employee can consult you in that personal finance related issue, they seem to be experts for everything.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
don't read them. eat them
dtrmp4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:34:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I eat them just fine. Reading dates is a much harder skill ;P
highRPMfan ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:10:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that sucks.
vlozko ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:38:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The panhandling problem in Worcester, MA got so bad that a city ordinance was passed. ACLU ended up suing and the city and won. The city had to pay half a million In legal fees.
wellthatsucks826 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:16:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was gonna say, I've lived here over a year in the middle of downtown and out of the hundreds of bums asking me for money I've never seen one with a permit.
CargoShortViking ยท 4376 points ยท Posted at 17:00:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats actually pretty civilized.
SpoonHanded ยท 1943 points ยท Posted at 17:21:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also a great way to justify arresting legitimate homeless people. That's a dangerous power to have.
Infernalism ยท 2873 points ยท Posted at 17:26:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The google says that Ohio's panhandlers license is free to get, and just requires that people provide proof that they need financial help.
It's a physical badge that they wear that shows that they're working with the local government and police. According to what I've read, real homeless folk are in favor of the license, since it chases off the criminal element, like that woman there.
pouponstoops ยท 898 points ยท Posted at 17:36:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you provide proof? Just walk in, smelling like urine?
Oddblivious ยท 1429 points ยท Posted at 17:39:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"here's my non-existent pay stub. And a picture of my dumpster"
kivalo ยท 1129 points ยท Posted at 17:45:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just wondering why you have a 2014 dumpster while you're beggin' for change all over the city.
Fried_Cthulhumari ยท 129 points ยท Posted at 17:58:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, there are many affordable and accessible lease to own programs for newer garbage receptacles. Just because you're down in the dumps doesn't mean you need to be in a late model dumpster.
HBlight ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 17:58:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ho, man, I wish. Dumpster-brand trash bins are top-of-the-line. This is just a Trash-Co waste disposal unit.
InVultusSolis ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:27:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thou shalt not let moochers into thine... hut.
Danickjames ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:02:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The real reason i have this dumpster here is because it's a reminder of the time when i only had 47 dumpsters in my dumpster account
WarriorNN ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:05:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
META
E
T
A
Bombingofdresden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"BECAUSE, I'm trying to work my way up to a recycling bin, asshole."
Smoolz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:00:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What year is that dumpster?
MTMzNw__ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:00:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you want to trade in that dumpster the best I can do is $5.
MCHammer666 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:03:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah! I wanna know too
falcon4287 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:27:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Do refrigerators still come in cardboard boxes?"
"Yeah, but the rent is outrageous."
NawNaw ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:46:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Sir, this is just a jumble of newspapers you've obviously used to wipe your ass with.....here is your license."
MuttinChops ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:45:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got three cents, and a moldy tuna sandwich. I'll trade you a bite and a penny for the permit. ONLY ONE BITE, mans gotta eat, ya know.
Smaskifa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at Mr Moneybags here with his fancy camera and pictures!
grande_huevos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
look at Mr Rockefeller over here with his own dumpster, while i am here in the cold with nothing but my lint coat, whats a lint coat you ask? its years and years of lint and dirt picked from my belly button sewn together by the few body hairs and dignity i have left
Black_Santa_FTW ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:59:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HAHAHAHA
Cowboywizzard ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:14:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at richy rich here with a camera!
cryogenisis ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:19:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My neighbor, Oscar, can vouch.
__FilthyFingers__ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:22:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Here's my cardboard box home and Walmart carriage I push all my things around in."
crewchief535 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 368 points ยท Posted at 17:39:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably social security number and they run it to see if you're employed
[deleted] ยท 213 points ยท Posted at 17:45:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"All these illegals are stealing our jobs" -Homeless person
Oh this is locked I made it for once.
Icculus33_33 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:59:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Took er jerbs
keytop19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dey took er jobs!!!
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:59:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you get so many more upvotes
purple_potatoes ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:28:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Contrary to popular belief, most homeless individuals do have work. I don't know about panhandlers specifically, but most homeless have employment.
ben7337 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:50:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But then people who panhandle as a sole source of income who do well are going to still be able to claim need because it's their only source of income. Plus panhandlers get cash so they can easily hide most of their income.
dinosaurbubblesxoxo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:57:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How many panhandlers do you know who "do well"?
tequilapuzh ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:01:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least one!
ben7337 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:20:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only the ones shown online mainly, I ignore others, though I'm originally from one of the wealthiest counties in the country and know my dad would mention panhandlers at Walmart and other areas who would get into nice cars and drive off, personally I ignore anyone begging for money.
code0011 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
people beg for change while also having a job?
Isn't the whole point of having a job so you don't beg for change?
Scizmz ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:43:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depending on where you are, you can make more begging for change than working a minimum wage job. Several years ago a bum that would panhandle near where I worked was telling me he averaged $6.50 an hour doing that. Now keep in mind she probly makes double or tripple that as people will have more pitty on her cause she's a woman.
spanishgalacian ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:51:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plus it's tax free.
samfreez ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:45:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, they do. They make bank, too. Some folks can earn upwards of $30/hr begging on the right street corner.
Why bother with a minimum-wage job when the loss of a few fucks results in earning something like $30/hr tax free?
I really like Akron's method. I wish every other city did that, as well.
Some people truly need the help. Most (I'd say) do not, and are only out there earning $ because they don't want to work for it another way.
Hell, I knew of a guy about 10 years ago who was on disability in a wheelchair, but didn't want to be at home all day, so he just begged for $ on a street corner. He routinely earned more doing that than he did from the government for his disability.
PoliticalSafeSpace ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:43:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't people complain endlessly about how the minimum wage is too high?
What they hell do people want, low paying jobs with people who have to beg, or high paying jobs where people don't have to beg? Pick one people!
teetheyes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When minimum went up in my state, so did everything else. Now I have a high paying job and practically have to beg.
tiger8255 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:05:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which came up first though? Often, the minimum wage is raised to match raising prices, so that minimum wage workers can actually live.
teetheyes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
then the products the minimum wage workers produce have to go up in price in order to cover the raised wages they're being paid, and so then minimum wage workers can't actually afford anything again.
tiger8255 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While I don't really agree, I don't have the energy to debate this right now.
I do see your point though, and that is fair enough.
PoliticalSafeSpace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a study about this. Statistically speaking the reason for your financial stress is housing. It used to be that we prided ourselves in spending less than 20% of our income to housing. Now housing accounts for 60% of our budget. Imagine that. That a majority of humans in America spend 60% of what they earn just to have shelter. Everything else has gone down. Everything except housing. Exponentially up.
liontamarin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:10:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All economic research shows that prices on goods and services only go up slightly with an increase in minimum wage.
The housing market would be almost completely unaffected by a reasonable minimum wage of 12 - 15 dollars per hour.
If you have a high paying job, but are being priced out to the point where you "practically have to beg" there may be several factors to this that has nothing to do with the increase in minimum wage such as increased demand for housing due to an increase of high paying workers (ie: workers making far above the minimum wage) or a mismanagement of your own funds.
Many people, if not most people, often increase their lifestyle as they increase in wage rather than maintaining a comfortable lifestyle at their old pay scale. This creates the artificial sense of a high wage not being enough. Because you can suddenly afford to live better does not mean that you should.
But there is no way that you have a "high paying job" and are being priced out because of a minimum wage increase. It is impossible. To price you out, they would make the minimum wage completely unlivable
convenientcolostomy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:33:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you have a high paying job and have to beg for money stop buying stupid shit all the time
paligror ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's tons of jobs and professions you can work under the table for like contracting/painting/landscaping/construction. What stops a dude netting $900 a week from panhandling after work?
PM_Trophies ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:16:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pride mostly
paligror ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahaha yes I mean for the sake of utilizing social security as a way to check for employment
movzx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:37:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No system is going to be foolproof. You aim to cover 90% of the scenarios, not the 10%. It's why the "drug test welfare recipients!" stuff is such a waste of time and money. 90% of your effort and funds are being wasted trying to deal with an edge case.
new2bay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SSNs don't work that way.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, of course, I'm unemployed. I make like $200.00 a day panhandling on the streets. Duhh, silly goose.
tomz17 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:54:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Easy
Infernalism ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:40:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stratisphear ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So they're literally making it illegal to beg for change if you didn't know you needed an official "I'm allowed to beg for scraps" card. That's incredibly fucked up.
Infernalism ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:55:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering that it was already illegal to panhandle, this is actually an improvement over the previous status quo.
Puntley ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:06:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B-But muh poleece are evil
bettareckognize ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In this case it's more likely a city council or something acting like dicks
Stratisphear ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:07:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So we're celebrating that it's slightly less fucked up than criminalizing poverty outright?
Infernalism ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:07:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should we mourn an improvement over the status quo?
Stratisphear ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 18:11:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We certainly shouldn't be acting like it's positive. "We fucked them over WAY harder, now we're only fucking people over slightly less hard" shouldn't be met with "Hey, that's great!".
Infernalism ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:15:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's 'not' great that we're making it easier for people to get the help that they need?
Okay then.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
Stratisphear ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:06:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do they?
Ronin1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:15:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Usually some kind of documentation as proof of homelessness. It can be provided by organizations that provide survival services to homeless people. Police officers that do community outreach and are familiar with the individual can do the same thing.
Source: I am a social worker that provides these services.
rundmcarlson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't you see how retarded she is?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpIfVUiKvLI
drunkenvalley ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No home address for one, I suspect.
Wribro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your shitcanned credit score probably helps.
shitterplug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Take a dump in the corner of the room and wipe you ass with Burger King wrappers.
mognoj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The smell is actually from the urine sample cup they have to provide in order to get licensed to walk around smelling like urine.
PM_Me_Yourbutts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
check
ArminscopyofSwank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cold.....
ImElkay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just have to be covered in an adequate amount of feces.
skwerrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it can get Ted Nugent out of going to 'Nam it should be sufficient for this
Ppleater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty easy to get background info on someone and see whether they're getting a steady income or not.
Charlie_Warlie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hello. My sister is retarded, and I'm addicted to crack. I'd like my badge please.
Edit, this is a test to see if I can edit a comment on a locked thread.
edit2 Turns out you can
GladiatorJones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You actually have to bring someone with you to a public stairwell (any public stairwell will do, as I've noticed) and urinate in it.
Sybre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure why you're being so smug but homeless people can obtain banking documents too. It's not like they don't have a debit or credit card. Just because you're homeless doesn't mean you don't know how modern-day banking works.
dsquard ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 17:42:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And it helps them stay connected to society, which is, from what I understand, one of the most difficult hurdles to overcome once you're homeless and on the streets.
okami11235 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:13:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One problem worth noting is that a huge factor in homelessness is a combination of mental illness and ignorance/unwillingness to participate in such programs (which may itself stem from mental illness). I still saw German panhandlers in Germany, and my SO pointed out that they basically have the ability to receive a small apartment and modest amount of money relatively easily.
clamps12345 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:01:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
is it really criminal to ask for money or just scummy?
Infernalism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's illegal in a lot of places to ask for money from strangers.
phaiz55 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:39:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd support this. My city has so many fake panhandlers you never know who really needs your help.
Gotelc ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:13:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I never give money only food or water.
Lazy_Genius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:19:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah cause most homeless people really love walking into government offices and registering.
ExRays ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:59:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still seems like a system that could put some homeless people in a catch-22 situation, especially if they may not be all that mentally stable.
longboardingerrday ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:15:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why don't they just take these people in need and actually help them?
Valuedinput ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a legitimate question about this. I am offended that people like this lady stand outside and panhandle for people's money because they assume they are homeless. It's even worse if they are hold a sign when they really aren't in need. My girlfriend thinks this is fine "because they aren't FORCING people to give them money, they are willingly giving a gift."
Can someone please (without browbeating my girlfriend) tell me what's criminal about faking your economic status to take advantage of someone's generosity? It seems like a moral issue, not a legal one.
Infernalism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For one thing, tax evasion.
Valuedinput ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Outside of extreme cases, is there anything illegal about it other than hiding some money from the government?
Infernalism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, the wikipedia says this:
ottoman_jerk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
why doesn't that local government just provide them with housing?
ketralnis ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:55:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Housing costs a lot more than a piece of paper that says Certified Homelessโข
sadashn ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:56:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They do. There are emergency homeless shelters, shelters for people who need something longer term and, once you're working, programs that provide you heavily subsidized housing that require no deposit and don't charge rent for the first several months. Literally helped someone utilize all of these a few months ago. There's a legitimate route to getting off the street for those that want it; a lot of people just don't go through the effort of using those programs or would rather remain homeless. It's a culture/society of its own and many of them genuinely prefer it to the alternative of being a normal part of society.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're "keepin' it real".
duhhuh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which google? We have all 6 and I checked.
Valisk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is nova new idea, been used in England since th3 Napoleonic wars ended
PoliticalSafeSpace ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:42:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you prove you have an empty stomach? If you lost your job this year, but you were employed last year, are you not allowed to be homeless? lol
KaribouLouDied ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:50:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when people had to wear badges in live in ghettos at some point in history. Fuck government interference.
Infernalism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when people with badges were the police.
KaribouLouDied ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most still are
StaplerLivesMatter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:50:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They have to wear a badge and "prove" they're in financial need?
That is some fucked up shit. Is there a star on the badge? How many points on it?
Infernalism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, the badge with the star on it is the one that the police wear.
StaplerLivesMatter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:55:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You missed the joke
Infernalism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, I got the joke, I just ignored it.
noreligionplease ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:12:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is the woman a criminal? Unethical for sure but if people are willing to hand her money I see no laws being broken.
Infernalism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't ask me for the legal logic behind the law. I didn't craft it.
agrophobe ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:43:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds ethically frightening.
Infernalism ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How so? I'm sincerely curious how this bit of regulation is frightening.
agrophobe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here in Quebec, we have most of our homeless that suffer from the deinstitutionalization of mental health center. Those people are, indeed, socially awkward and have some hard time even facing human interaction. So you imagine even getting to the city hall to get a paper. The point is, not any homeless are in this situation because of financial crisis or drug abuse and they might literally never get out of it without active support.
That said, I'm not aware of the Ohio program and action that this legislation also put in place. It could be the procedure for cops to hand them over to city hall and help them get the permit if they judge that this simple act would help them.
Infernalism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would assume this is the case.
Here in Texas, the police will help transport homeless folk to help centers rather than arrest them. From what I understand, they hate arresting homeless, since they'd rather spend their time dealing with criminals, not homeless folk.
root88 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If homeless people were good at paperwork, they probably wouldn't be homeless.
Infernalism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a pretty broad statement to make.
root88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you understand the point.
Infernalism ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:06:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I understand it. It's wrong, but I do understand what you're saying.
Finbel ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:05:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like "rich people are good with money" or "drug addicts have low self controll".
TrayvonsAngelWarrior ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like a pretty good idea to me - a bright yellow star badge would do the trick, though I'd be worried they could be misplaced or stolen. A tattoo would be more permanent. In fact, that would make it easier to provide them with shelter, almost like a camp. Why aren't more places doing this?
Infernalism ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:59:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, no one at all has made that really hilariously bad analogy yet. Good job.
But, just so people understand: You're comparing a panhandlers license to the star of david that the Nazis made the jews wear in the lead-up to the Holocaust.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not possible to prove a negative. You can't prove you don't have a job. What do you think happens when you get fired. "Ok, sir, here's your box of stuff, and here's your certification of unemployment to show to authorities while you beg for food."
Infernalism ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:02:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a lot of ways to check and see if you're employed.
filbert13 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would want to see a study that shows the % of panhandlers that aren't homeless or poor. And I don't have any idea of that % would be. I'ld assume most panhandlers are homeless/poor. But I might be wrong.
IMO it is often pointless to make laws and rules which apply to a very small group or have a low percentage of happening. Like the Trolley problem when talking about self driving cars. (Do you crash the car and kill the driver or avoid the crash and kill people walking on the sidewalk).
Problems like that have such a low likely change of happening, that making laws and writing codes to address them just muddy the water and in terms of codes just creates more points of failure.
I wonder how many people are arrested for panhandling in Ohio and how much that cost the public in police time and resources. When I believe it probably is a crime that isn't worth the hassle.
Ginkachuuuuu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:41:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds fantastic. Where I live we have a big problem with fake panhandlers.
mero8181 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:47:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has this been taken to court? I would assume this would be a violation of free speech.
seacomet ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homeless people don't have access to the internet, they don't have a way to get to city hall. Some people say even the permitting small businesses need are prohibitively difficult, and those entities are no doubt better able to interact with the legal system. This is a way to catalogue and manage the homeless (which is either scary or useful, depending on your beliefs)
Gahvynn ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't see why they shouldn't be in favor of it. We have someone in my city that applied and got the license (again free where we live) and she was eventually exposed as she already had a paid for car and lived basically rent free with some relatives and in no danger of being run off and certainly wasn't going hungry. Yet she basically had the only spot to panhandle in the busiest intersection in the city I live in.
adidasbdd ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So they can get a panhandlers licence, but they can't get an ID to vote?
[deleted] ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 17:23:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just get the permit
frozenfire ยท 182 points ยท Posted at 17:26:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homeless people aren't exactly known for being savvy with bureaucratic process.
sharklops ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 17:47:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homeless and poor people navigate bureaucracyโ more deftly than anyone else. They've been forced to learn how to get the things they need.
SlickWilly74 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:56:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep pretty much. I have an aunt who hasn't had a full time job in 40 years because she has no skills and no work ethic but if she needs food or a payment from the government she knows how to get everything in 2 days. She tried explaining the process to me and I felt like a 4 year old hearing an attorney explain tax law.
ArminscopyofSwank ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:02:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is true.
When you have to, you know everything available.
3riversfantasy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:59:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Certainly doesn't apply to all homeless, but when substance abuse and physical addiction are at play most people jump through the hoops quite nicely. Working in salvage the customers we have that suffer from addiction tend to be the most polite, they want to get in, out, and check cashed as soon as possible with little hassle.
Ceremor ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A ton of homeless people are too mentally ill to form relationships or get a job. Fuck you they can't all just figure out where the government building is and stay competent enough to work through a process like this. A lot of them are out there precisely because because they need mental health help and they can't get it themselves. And a lot of them simply won't be able to navigate those hoops because of their inability to make rational decisions.
But no, let's pretend they're all a bunch of scoundrels who know how to work the system, and the rest of them that are too crazy to fill out the permit form, well they're just faking it anyway toss 'em in jail!
Get fucked.
Stalked_Like_Corn ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:38:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most likely, while at the jail, they are then given a permit to panhandle. You really are an asshole. You're not 100% wrong but when you come across as an asshole, people are going to come away from what you said thinking "Man, what an asshole" and not "You know, he had some valid points".
sharklops ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:15:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow you sure injected a lot of bullshit subtext into my simple statement.
Sybre ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:33:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a bit shocking how everyone in this thread thinks they know everything about homelessness yet they probably been living in the upper middle class their whole life.
whitedan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:46:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea they are just animals living in the dumpster.
Oh wait...
antwan_benjamin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if the permit process is nothing more than putting together a convincing cardboard sign?
frozenfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then what good does it do? How does that add legitimacy to anything?
Dangerous-Donald ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:29:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew a homeless man who was a mechanical engineer. He chose to be homeless. He never begged, but if he had, I'm sure he could figure out how to get a permit.
Tl:dr. Not all poor people are dumb.
Edit: downvoted for saying not all homeless people are dumb. Wow.
frozenfire ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:41:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a lot of people making that choice, almost specifically because of the above. Having our lives dictated by bureaucrats, regulation, and technology can be a frustrating and demeaning existence. That's actually part of why I enjoy survivalism so much, despite being a head engineer at a major telecommunications company. Sometimes it's just necessary to "unplug", as cliche as that has come to sound. Some people just can't make that choice in moderation, so they're either always connected, or completely disconnect themselves permanently.
Dangerous-Donald ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's exactly what he did. He said he did the whole house and bills thing and didn't want to do it any more.
Stalked_Like_Corn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:40:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If my Wife and Dad were to die (before the Wife and I had kids), I'd not have anything technology based again. I'd do my very best to find a cabin in the woods that was secluded enough to be away but close enough to get food. This coming from someone who's addicted to technology.
derekandroid ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:34:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank God you put a tl;dr on that one. Also, your example is anomalous.
thesoupoftheday ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:11:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's anecdotal. There's a difference.
Dangerous-Donald ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:46:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/iamverysmart
Edit: I thought r/iamverysmart was used when someone's post was intended to be smart but comes across as dumb.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:02:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Using words with four syllables isn't sufficient to be verysmart.
ZigZag3123 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:03:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not the guy you replied to, but seriously? The word "anomalous" is /r/iamverysmart to you?
POTUS_Washington ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Big words hurt head, must be iamverysmart
ffn ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:37:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good for your friend, but that doesn't help the homeless people who aren't as capable as he is.
Dangerous-Donald ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:47:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then go help them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty dumb to choose to be homeless
Anpher ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:38:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saves a lot of living expenses.
code0011 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:42:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
some say it saves all of the living expenses
Devileyekill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:38:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To you maybe.
IfYouCantDoTeach ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:37:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well tough shit then.
DoctorGirby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:40:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most homeless people are mentally ill
IfYouCantDoTeach ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:52:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A) Is there actually statistics supporting that?
B) Regardless, it's not the job of the state to alleviate all suffering of the people living in said state.
Ceremor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you never talked to a homeless person? It's pretty fucking self evident dude.
Also it is the job of the state to alleviate the people's suffering. That's a huge aspect of the state. Making life more tolerable is one of the founding principles of government for fuck's sake.
IfYouCantDoTeach ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:24:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a statistic, dude. That's called an anecdote, and is not a valid representation of a population.
Where are you deriving this from exactly? What principle are you referring to?
Jugg3rnaut ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 17:29:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But then you're trusting the government to do the right thing and keep the permit process smooth and timely. Back in my home country sometimes if the government doesn't want you to do something thats legal but requires a permit they just drag their feet on the paperwork, or pretend to lose it and make you fill it out again and again, or slow you down in other ways, and its just not fair to homeless people who may not be able to find a job for whatever reason to basically choose between getting arrested because they're hungry, or just starving to death.
25546 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:50:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe the Akron municipal government isn't as corrupt as the one of your home country.
crappyaccent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As people do daily, it's called living in a society.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, there's not that much corruption in the US and if a city government doesn't do their job they risk getting sued. A homeless person may have trouble finding a lawyer, but the risk is still there. Hence I doubt it will be worth it. Besides, there's a huge difference between making something illegal and actually arresting people for it. As far as I know people get arrested quicker in the US than where I live, but I don't really see why arresting people for such a minor infraction would make sense. These things are what fines are for.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And if they can't pay the fine?
lolwuttles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then they can probably get the permit instead.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, here you'd end up in long process starting with warnings that could ultimately end with the authorities either seizing your assets (in case of someone homeless that would hardly be much) or - if you're very unlucky - you being locked up for some time. I'm not quite sure that that would be fair if people actually don't have any money (maybe offer community service as an alternative?), but here it's pretty much impossible to not have any income due to welfare. Combined with payments in instalments it should be pretty much impossible to actually end up in jail for it. E.g. I knew a guy who paid (well probably still pays) a โฌ1000 fine at rates of โฌ5 per month.
tabblin_okie ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 17:27:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me just get my homeless ass over on the other end of the county, and fill out some annual or semiannual paperwork. Instead of you know, the government worrying about shit like improving the situation.
MayoneggVeal ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:43:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A permitting process might be useful for getting an accurate count of the people in need of assistance when asking for increased funding or grants.
AgedMaduro ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:40:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keeping fraudulent beggars off corners so that donors at least know what they're donating to would seemingly be an improvement for the legitimately needy over having to compete with any phony on a street corner.
You won't fix homelessness and poverty overnight, but that seems like a decent initiative. Not all impacts have to be major to be worthwhile. I agree that there is more to be done about improving the situation, but I don't think fixing the underlying problem and taking small steps like this are mutually exclusive.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:34:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
should the government wipe their ass, too?
Socrates_Burrito ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:40:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, considering like 25% of homeless people are mentally ill and have little to no other options, somebody needs to legitimately help take care of them. That somebody is generally the government when private citizens and industry fail.
shitterplug ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, that statistic is so fucking skewed. Having been around a ton of homeless people, volunteering at shelters, the majority of them are on SSI simply because they acted crazy enough. They're perfectly able to work, they just prefer panhandling because it's better money than anything Labor Ready offers.
Socrates_Burrito ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:59:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm happy your anecdotes confirm your biases but unless you can show me how these numbers are skewed with actual data from a peer-reviewed study I'm skeptical. I too have worked with homeless people, both in Sacramento and in the Bay Area (as well as refugees in Berlin, though that is something else entirely) and my experience matches more closely to what these studies show. Though my experiences are just anecdotes as well so I tend to trust the peer-reviewed data.
OneOfDozens ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:40:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
people are saying they shouldn't...
instead of the government locking them up and then costing everyone money for it
Rocky87109 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These people are homeless. They are homeless for a reason other than not being able to "wipe their ass". This conversation always gets to this point because of people not informed on why a majority of people are homeless in the first place.
FeelDeAssTyson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:42:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like the govt has already taken steps to improve the situation.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 17:37:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[removed]
GracchiBros ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:49:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could the government just leave these people the fuck alone then instead of micromanaging them? Because that's what him and me are saying.
Ceremor ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:16:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if they have schizophrenia and they can barely figure out how to use public transportation or maps?
The government has more than enough money to provide for those that are suffering out on the streets. Fuck you and your asshole libertarian attitude.
swedishtaco ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:28:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if you don't have ID?
State ID, driver license or passport are required in order to obtain a panhandling license.
The_0P ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 17:28:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes, require hundreds of thousands of people battling schizophrenia to obtain a permit to essentially continue being homeless or else they get locked up. makes a lot of sense...
Sharrakor ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:41:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL Akron has hundreds of thousands of homeless people battling schizophrenia.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:50:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing that when the police find a panhandler w/o a permit, they help them get one if they need it, not repeated jail them.
FinallyNewShoes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:16:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what I assume as well. It's a way for the police to ID homeless people and limit needless interactions.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. I have problems with the police in this country like many do, but I know that most are generally good people.
Ceremor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have a lot of faith in the police.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on the police. Some are good people.
Ceremor ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:26:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here's an article detailing the fact that in this study out of 22,790 people in prison they'd looked at 3.7% had psychotic illnesses. (That's 843 individuals) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2755284/
Here's an article about how when one such schizophrenic man was taken to jail rather than a mental institution he boiled to death in a shower.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/19/520743255/after-schizophrenic-inmate-dies-in-a-shower-florida-prosecutor-finds-no-wrongdoi
You have too much faith in the police.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:32:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know these stories. I've also seen plenty of cops helping the homeless. Just like not all homeless are meth addicted thieves, not all cops are pieces of shit.
Trust me, I grew up a skater punk. I'm no cheerleader for the police. Just a human adult who has seen how the really real world works.
flee_market ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they're battling schizophrenia maybe they need to be locked up (in a mental health facility, where they can get treatment).
Instead of, y'know, stabbing each other or anyone else who comes near.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:27:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
we're having a national discussion that it's 'too hard' for people to get voter ids, and you want homeless, a lot of whom suffer from mental illness to 'just get the permit'? Loled.
T0PHER911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Getting a permit to panhandle is much simpler than becoming a registered voter.
Socrates_Burrito ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being a healthy person is a lot simpler than being a schizophrenic without medications or support.
T0PHER911 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:54:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let's not assume that all homeless people/panhandlers have mental illnesses.
As well, if it's your only source of income, I'm sure you'd want to do your best to weed out those who are cheating the system.
Socrates_Burrito ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are plenty of studies that put the mental illness frequency in the homeless population around 25%. Not enough is done for them.
T0PHER911 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do we pinpoint who has mental illnesses and who doesn't? Who do we send out to check up on the homeless people with mental illnesses? Who regulates whether or not you still qualify as someone with a mental illness? Who regulates what mental illnesses apply to being able to get voter registration or not? Who keeps tabs on where those with mental illnesses are, and which jurisdiction they fall under for voting?
As well, who pays all of these people to do these jobs and services?
It really sucks, but the solutions to these issues are not black and white, and it's not as simple as, "we need to do more for the homeless."
chellis ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:28:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Permit is $8000 a year plus 10% of earnings.
neoridgerunner ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:02:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from Akron. The police are the biggest thugs in town.
BearForce0ne ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:27:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dont some homeless people try to get arrested for the free meals/cot/showers and a roof over their heads?
4x49ers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:39:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Because you know what's worse than a night or two in jail? Freezing to death.
BearForce0ne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:41:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude cops arrest legitimate homeless people all day long for anything they want. I come from coastal California where in many areas being homeless in and of itself is a crime.
cricketfluffernutter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are laws against vagrancy and loitering. No ones talking about arresting the homeless. They're talking about arresting panhandlers. Not every homeless person panhandles, and not every panhandler is homeless.
robeph ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:11:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I met a homeless Uber driver from Nashville. Returning vet, wife left, house sold. Just stayed in the streets. Saw an ad for uber at a library, got enough money for a cheap phone at a gas station, used their rent program to get a car, pays 220 a week for it which I a bit steep, but he showed me his week be pay and the six days he worked he legit had 2600 some odd dollars. Says he'd not had as much money as he does ever especially with no bills. I said he can get a place now. "Nah, I just got a year membership at planet fitness, shower and a few hours sleep in those massage chair who needs a house".
I picked him up about a block from the store he requested a ride from Uber for. He said he really just wanted to talk to another driver. Guy probably works his ass off if he's making that much but it's nuts. Said he had no plans on being homed.
TesticleMeElmo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:55:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some places panhandling is straight up outlawed and they all get arrested.
SassySamSafetySchool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:40:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean a lot of places will just arrest you for being homeless and there no option to have a permit. So i guess it's better than anything. But then again being in jail could be safer. It's pretty shitty how America treats their homeless, especially considering many of them are veterans. I have so many friends who are all about war, 'murica, and dropping freedom on all sorts of people, but if you even raise the question about welfare programs they get so opinionated and judgemental. Fucking hypocrites.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:25:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. If you need it get the permit, otherwise you just can't panhandle. Not like they can arrest you for being homeless
meddlingbarista ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 17:35:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's bordering on some catch-22 shit.
"It was not illegal to be destitute or beg for money, Yossarian knew, as long as one obtained a permit. A permit for begging required one to go to City Hall with identification and proof of permanent address. No permits could be issued without those things.
The city would then determine if one was truly homeless and unable to work. First, they would check to see if the applicant had a permanent address. Then, they would check to see if they had identification. Having either would, of course, mean that an applicant was not homeless and could obtain legal employment. The permit was then denied.
After implementing this program, Akron Ohio announced that the number of registered homeless in their city had dropped to zero, and they congratulated themselves on solving the issue of homelessness for good."
Ceremor ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:18:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. I can't grasp how people look at an idea like this and go 'Wow that fixes everything!'
ZigZag3123 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Were you aiming for Douglas Adams's style? Because I wouldn't bat an eye if this was in a Hitchhikers' Guide book.
meddlingbarista ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:31:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going for Catch-22, but I haven't read that since high school. Maybe a little bit of Adams and Orwell.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:30:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
robeph ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like one of the many homeless shelters around. I've worked in several both here in North Alabama and in Chicago. Rarely are the beds completely full.
heartbeats ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:51:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweet summer child. Police departments all over the country routinely arrest people that are homeless knowing that the population is particularly vulnerable to abuse and are often financially and/or mentally unable to pay bail and cope with the process.
OTMsuyaya ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:39:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.
Jugg3rnaut ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:30:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But thats effectively what the government can then do. By artificially slowing the permit process (just enough so you really need the money for food, have no other alternative and must panhandle) they can pretty much force your arrest.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not just outlaw panhandling at that point.
I'm gonna guess that the police generally try to help people get permits if they need one, and only really bust fakers.
robeph ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:04:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Care to show that this slowing actually occurs is this just another what if hypothetical?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wanna bet?
Thedickmeister69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Panhandling is a First anl right nationwide. This requirement was illegal, and if challenged, would likely be struck down
Requi3m ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:26:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
at least they get a place to stay and something to eat!
Danger-Moose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Panhandling != being homeless just like being homes != panhandling
dont_wear_a_C ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't people say that prison/jail is better than being homeless? Since, living space, for one.
LegacyLemur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, that sounds like a horrific idea. What about mentally ill? Like who is honestly gonna go through the trouble of getting a permit to go hang out on the street and panhandle?
cheeeeeese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they are arresting legitimate panhandlers, ignorance is no excuse to breaking the law
SnakeAColdCruiser ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
found the fake homeless guy
robeph ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:58:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or you know just get the license. It's not actually difficult.
Slydog486 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:14:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm confused... Why would you not be in favor of this? This law prevents random people from doing this, which means that there's more for the people who are truly in need.
SGCleveland ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:49:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...it's civilized to have to ask permission to ask for help?
PraiseBeToScience ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:35:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now what would be civilized is giving them some support so they don't have to panhandle.
mrgonzalez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:00:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From 2018, a $40 fee is required for panhandle permits, to cover administration costs.
benoitrio ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:47:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no it fucking isn't
swedishtaco ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:29:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not an expert, but it sounds to me like a clear violation of the first amendment.
9999monkeys ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:24:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might be more civilized not to have a need for panhandling in the first place... Like a social welfare net or something for those who need help. (OK this is your cue people, start screaming about the evils of Communism.)
broomguy7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:37:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a great deal of work to build a set of programs to abolish all cases of homelessness, poverty, and unemployment. It's a long process and a large investment, and having a system that ensures panhandled money gets into the hands of people that need it is a good thing.
Kriieod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a fantasy novel beggars guild sort of way.
mero8181 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:46:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or violation of their first amendment rights.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Rhode Island they ruled that not letting people panhandle was unconstitutional though. So yeah, there's 1 at literally every intersection, but what do I care
PoopEndeavor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's one perspective. It would be much more civilized to help them get housing, health care, and employment to not have to be homeless anymore.
JinDenver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Civilized and/or creepy and dangerous as fuck. Let's make all the poor people register and wear these special armbands we've designed for them...
SickSociety14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's sad that we can't help the panhandlers beyond requiring permits so greedy assholes won't cut into their profits.... There's got to be a better way of helping those people.
Mangalz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In what way is requiring beggars to get a begging permit civilized? This is the same stupid shit that you would end up complaining about when a homeless person gets fined for not having a begging permit, or even worse gets imprisoned.
Think!
olawd92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not when you see how they have to prove it.
not_the_queen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a great way to "clean up the streets" by harassing & arresting people who are generally powerless, vulnerable & often mentally ill, instead of dealing with serious crime. It's just an updating of the depression era vagrancy laws that made being unemployed a crime. There is nothing actually civilized about this.
thingandstuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meh. If we can't have voter ID cards without disenfranchising millions then a law like this is surely to only improve things for those who have the means to make their own choices in life.
orangepeel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From my perspective it sounds even less civilized, because you get a government agency involved and they are almost not accountable to anyone.
daft357 ยท 217 points ยท Posted at 17:16:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish Phoenix AZ would do that. Its getting little out of hand here.
robeph ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:13:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm here from Flagstaff, my daughter is at the hospital pregnant and I have no gas to get there. Could you help me out?
[deleted] ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 17:22:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, no joke. It's becoming quite excessive near the freeway entrances.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:46:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially at 7th St and the I-10. There are so many people who cycle through that one freeway exit, its ridiculous.
bpwnz ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:30:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The alternative is something like what Charleston, SC has done. In order to hide the homeless population from the tourists they passed a law worded so tightly that even Firefighters can't collect money on public streets any more, and both the begger and gifter will be fined.
http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/TheBattery/archives/2015/09/23/panhandlers-adapt-to-life-under-new-city-ordinance
GoiterGlitter ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:38:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if you're a firefighter, standing in traffic waiting for people to hand you something is dangerous.
PoliticalSafeSpace ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:45:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would be okay with that kind of a law, or maybe saying you have to ask in a park or something to give that action it's place. Freeway onramps, freeway offramps, jesus fucking christ that should be illegal to stand there, I don't even care if you're asking for money, that's like the car death zone, humans die there.
rguy84 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where I live there's a guy with a significant limp, and often picks up trash. The road he walks down is one of those streets that turned into a highway. I have to cross to catch the bus. While I am not religious, I say a prayer every time he walks by, scarier than shit.
Icon_Crash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's also a shitty thing to do. They practically setup a checkpoint in my area.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:40:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
bpwnz ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:43:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes exactly. Sorry I thought it was pretty universal that Firefighters stood by intersections with Boots raising money for kids with cancer and what not. Maybe it's not as universal as I thought, should have clarified.
pocket_turban ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:54:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Volunteer departments do that, if you live in an incorporated city you likely have a professional department funded by taxes.
bpwnz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try reading my comment again. Charleston is a bonafide city, and the money they're out raising is for bonafide charities.
defiancy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:43:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SO True. I live off the 101 and Broadway. It's the same team that work that enterance everyday. It's a young man in his 20's and a young woman of a similar age. It's painfully obvious they aren't in need and are probably just collecting money for drugs.
It's like this in the entire city and it's getting out of hand. A lady at a gas station the other day asked me for money while holding a pack of smokes and smoking a cigarette. Which I was incredulous about because if she can buy smokes, why does she need money from me?
The sad part is it discourages me from giving money, which I am normally happy to do for those in need.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:42:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I'm in Phoenix pretty regularly and can't recall ever being approached while getting on/off the freeway.
That being said, I'm driving pretty much from the Airport to North Scottsdale.
MR_Rictus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:53:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surprised you haven't noticed then.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:49:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really not that bad for a major city. There are lots of homeless people, but not anymore than I'd expect. I saw way more homeless when I lived in Austin. They travel in packs over there.
love_pho ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:58:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are certain corners in the Phoenix Area that are always populated by the unfortunate. The highways between the Airport and North Scottsdale are not among those that are popular. However, I've noticed a few panhandlers around the Scottsdale Rd exit off the 101; and also around the access roads through out the shopping area around WalMart/Sam's Club off the Raintree Exit.
Personally, I think the low panhandling population is due to a mix between not wanting to be harassed by police and general populace. (The populace of Scottsdale can be brutal to those that they feel do not belong.) And, the distance from regular services that help the homeless. The exits closer to downtown and around the Glendale area are always prolific...I can't speak for other areas of town; I live in Scottsdale and work in Glendale, so those are the only corners I'm familiar with.
Spooky_Will321 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty terrible on Mill Ave as well. A few times a week on my way to work I get stopped and asked to give a dollar. Apparently they put a law through so it's illegal to sit on the ground due to high volumes of homeless people.
daredaki-sama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in a good neighborhood in CA and we've become infested as well.
WuTangWizard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You ever been to Santa monica?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, but i've been to the Long Beach area and near LA. That's some horrible shit right there.
__KODY__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a terrible spot to pick. No one is going to stop while they're trying to get on the freeway.
chrysamere ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:27:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only good thing about summer here is that the panhandlers burn.
Wow I am sick.
Mega_Onion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:49:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not just Phoenix. It's pretty much everywhere in Arizona.
tenaciousdeev ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:53:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. I've lived here 30 years and the last 2 or 3 years have gotten really bad.
There's an elderly guy with an obvious physical disability that's on Tatum/Shea most days, which I pass on my way to work. I started packing an extra banana or yogurt and bottle of water with me, if I forget I'll give him a few bucks. He's always grateful.
Some days there's this couple sitting there with a folding chair, like they got there first or something, alternating between which one stands and holds the sign, and which one sits in the chair. They don't give a shit about a banana and water. Fuck those people.
filbert13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never give them any money any more.
This rant might sound smug but I don't care it is how I feel after a year.
My house is about a 1/4 mile from a major road in my city. In the past year some panhandlers have shown up at the intersection of the road. It varies between 4 different people. About 50% chance of 1-2 of them being they a given day.
That intersection is just a dump. Before last summer the area was nice and didn't have anymore trash then an average intersection has.
From the cross walk North to South on each side the grass is now just a mud/dirt path. And garbage is EVERY there. I've seen a few of them get some subway and they will leave their drink and bag on this pipe with a flat top, as a table. Then let the trash blow away.
One corner of the intersection is an old gofl course turned into a public park/public land. It's like you opened up a few trash bags and let it blow all over there. Again before the panhandlers the area wasn't dirty at all. And on my way to work I'll see one of them with a coffee cup, then on my way home that coffee cup is left on that pipe.
Of course not all of the trash is generated by them, but I've seen them litter many times. And there is a trash big about an eight of a mile away at a bus stop. Which many of them use.
I stopped a few months ago and told one of them. "If I see them occasionally pick up some trash and throw it away at the bus stop garbage can I'll give them some money now and then." He didn't say anything and the area still looks like a dump.
It is frustrating. I know that they are likely down on their luck. I know Correlation does not imply causation. Yet, in this case I think it they are the cause of a litter problem. It makes me want them gone, I hate litter in general and do my best to pick up trash around my neighborhood when I walk my dogs. I wish, even though they are homeless, they did a little to help the community. Them just picking up some trash and taking it to the bin near them ever day would really help.
And I would probably give them a 5 or 10 every now and then if I seen them doing task like that.
E: spelling
AlexIsAnAnchorBaby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Terry "All DaTerJohnson is the most notorious one.
masuabie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's terrible in SoCal. They are everywhere and some of them are obviously fakes
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
San Diego also
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its getting little out of hand here.
MidWestMind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I submitted a pic of a pan handler laying down in r/Phoenix a few years ago. Just relaxing barely holding up the sign at the exit ramp of 60 and Gilbert.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In LA too...
RockyVplusRockyII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Salt Lake too. Some law was eased like 4 years ago and since then they've steadily gotten worse with each year. Used to never have ANY. Now they're everywhere.
negajake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speak up then.
Share something like this (or whatever other story you think would be best) with your representative or in a city council meeting.
Our elected officials work for us, and they don't know what we want unless we tell them. Sure it's easy to be cynical and think they won't listen, but you can't know until you try.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:35:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Arkay's law was struck down as unconstitutional violation of the 1st ammendment. You don't need a government license to speak, no matter what you want to say, including "have some change?"
someonesomewherex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try San Francisco. They are everywhere! You will often find poop in the street from the homeless.
HighlandRoad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:27:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Portland, OR checking in. "Dog or Human" is a pretty common game in my neighborhood.
CaptainMudwhistle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:01:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone mentioned Phoenix. I'm picturing the baked turds all over.
Is this where lava rocks really come from?
akaijiisu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't AZ have a law against soliciting employment in public? Like it's illegal to hold a sign that says "Need work" but okay to hold a sign that says "Need free money"?
FailRob ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:58:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should visit San Francisco...
LostGundyr ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fake panhandlers like this bitch?
AlexIsAnAnchorBaby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yee
LonelyPleasantHart ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Always lived in San Francisco where they have way more homeless people than you'll ever have in Phoenix, that said, I've always womderedwhy don't these people move to Phoenix where it doesn't rain and the weathers like 1 billion times better for homeless people.
I guess they're finally catching on.
Vann1n ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:52:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rubber city represent... Yay homelessness?
FyreBlastkin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:47:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, also live in Akron.
AllLooseAndFunky ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:54:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ole Crackron, OH my old stomping grounds.
thejpn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the ACLU sued because that ordinance was unconstitutional and the city got rid of the permit requirement.
http://fox8.com/2016/05/10/akron-city-council-repeals-panhandling-ordinance-after-lawsuit-threat-from-aclu/
wellthatsucks826 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TBF they really need it. People will straight up Harass you agressively for money here. And living near the college, I see them every morning going car to car to see which one is unlocked and then stealing. And they make the nastiest messes, literally taking a shit on busy street corners.
LegacyLemur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then arrest them for stealing.
What does the ordinance have to deal with them stealing from cars? Would they be done stealing from cars once they have the permit?
wellthatsucks826 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm saying that with the college becoming a panhandling hotspot the homeless issue has gotten really bad. I'm guessing the law was an attempt to get less people to beg around here.
Like on the north side of town, they're everywhere but they aren't begging so its fine, but if you go east/south they literally make tarp tents on street corners and go window to window at red lights.
wereallinittogether ยท 164 points ยท Posted at 17:22:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So we can develop a process to "tag" them. But actually feeding them was too much to ask.
Misterwierd ยท 202 points ยท Posted at 17:24:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Panhandlers aren't homeless people, they are just people asking for stuff. They want money, not food.
Farmer771122 ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 17:27:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to prove this, try offering one of these "hungry" people either a lot of food, or a little bit of money.
*edit: summary of replies, "you're full of shit", "you're totally right", "they always accept food from me", "they never accept food"
azrael4h ยท 129 points ยท Posted at 17:35:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got screamed at in spanish once because I gave a couple bags of food and directions to where I worked (they were hiring) to a guy with a sign saying 'need help'. He wanted money, not food and a potential job. Got furious when I refused to give him any cash.
On the other hand, I had a guy break down crying when I gave him some water and food outside a Walgreens. I was the only one who stopped and he actually was in need.
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:45:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a homeless dude outside a Walgreens in San Juan, PR. Started talking to him since I was finishing a cigarette, he ended up being a pretty cool dude. Once I got my shit in the store, I walked him to the McDs down the street and told him to get whatever he wanted. That was the most grateful I'd ever seen anyone. I don't give beggars cash, but I'll buy them a meal on occasion. I think he ended up getting 2 double cheeseburgers and some fries and a drink, dude just tore through it.
throwawayaccount5944 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:49:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:52:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So he could eat the soda, duh
throwawayaccount5944 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That joke went right over your soda.
pocket_turban ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:57:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm friends with my dad.
throwawayaccount5944 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:59:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
believe in santa
thegeneraldisarray ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:30:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bought a dude a sandwich, and then one day I was walking along and dude called from the other side of the street, "Hey, food lady!" and ran across the street and hugged me. Just today I sat with my friend on the bus and he asked if I had a little time, cause he was gonna cash his check and buy me a pack of cigarettes because I had done so for him. I said no dear, no need to pay me back. He is now tied up with a white woman I've seen many times before who is bad news, I feel bad for him. I will NOT give her one red cent but he's sweet and as never asked for anything since.
It's up to you and your street-smarts to discern who is or is not in need. I felt terrible Friday because I left the corner store and a white dude in a nice truck and fluorescent shirt asked if I had a couple dollars for gas, I said I don't carry cash and he asked if I could just put five bucks on my card for him, I was just like no, I am sorry, but no. White or black, I've seen 'em all; no discrimination here!
The assholes make it worse for the truly desperate out there.
IkeaViking ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:53:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lived in Central Phoenix the last 7 years years. Most don't want food. You can always tell the difference. The people with big back packs are often very thankful when I feed them/buy them water. That's what makes it worth it, to know they needed it.
Once I had a guy approach me in a strip mall parking lot asking for money to buy food. I only had my debit/credit cards on me. I offered to buy him food from each restaurant and he had problems with all of them, "it's too greasy," "their menu is boring," "it's too processed." I asked him what he wanted me to do then? "Go to the ATM and get me money and I'll walk to where I want to eat."
"Beggars can't be choosers"
SmashedBug ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:43:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did that once. I was younger, with my parents and we went to meet some people in a nice steak place downtown. The parking lot was a bit of a walk away and we were dressed up nicely, so of course you'd expect us to get bothered.
I had an untouched delicious bacon mac and cheese side dish. When we were confronted by a dude asking for 'help', my dad gave that to him.
Before we turned the corner, we saw him throw it in the trash.
It's just upsetting to see people like that. Also, I was anticipating eating that later...
kwiztas ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:25:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude don't give someone your half eaten food.
Devileyekill ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:39:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a "homeless" guy come up to me yesterday and say he was starving so I offered him an MRE and he declined lol.
grackychan ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:48:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't blame him
Devileyekill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:58:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An MRE is a gold mine if you're starving but if you have a full belly then yeah, I don't blame him either.
PhilxBefore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could have invoked flashbacks of Vietnam PTSD-type shit.
david0990 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:54:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been turned away when someone was asking for gas money at a station. I offered to put a few dollars on the pump and they looked disgusted. like how dare I beet them at their own game. some people are fucking pathetic.
PhilxBefore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like to ask them for a dollar first.
Sir_Selah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:58:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some of them are still legit.
As a rule of thumb it's a bad idea to accept unsealed food from people when you're homeless, tampering with food before giving it to the homeless is a common occurrence.
Chody88 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:59:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I give them beer, and they have to drink it in front of me.
TheMegaWhopper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:40:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When i was on a trip in DC in high school my teacher offered to buy a pan handler a meal and he refused and just wanted money. Unfortunately a lot of these people are scam artists.
hippy_barf_day ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i always offer food, never been turned down.
LonelyPleasantHart ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:52:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are full of shit
Navi_Here ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:35:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a first hand experience of this. I ordered too many mcdoubles and tried to give my extra to a panhandler. Burger was still hot in the wrapper. He got right pissed and demanded cash instead.
Was a bit of an eye opener when you think your doing the right thing by giving food instead of cash.
IKnowUThinkSo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:59:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a former homeless person, it's about immediate value versus future value. Money has value that can be saved for when you can't find food or other needs otherwise (this person may have just eaten and didn't "need" food at the moment). Food is a good gift, but it only lasts a few hours, maybe a day at best, so a gift of food is kind of like a backhanded gift (here, here's some food for now, but I won't give you the ability to buy food later). Food can't be saved, and can't be put in a pocket to keep safe from thieves. Unless you have a cart (which people avoid cause it's like you resigning yourself to homelessness), you don't have anywhere to put any of the stuff people give you.
Also, that guy doesn't have an address, so that job you offered (that he would have to abandon his corner, that he may have fought for to apply for) isn't as useful as you think. He needs to eat "immediately", but paychecks can come once a month or every other week; he doesn't have the ability/energy to both work and panhandle for those weeks, so he has to make a choice. Pay checks also don't usually come in the form of cash, so he'll have to find a way to get a bank account (without an address that's not gonna happen) first.
To summarize, he knows he's homeless and you offering to give him food and a potential job doesn't really help his situation any more or less than someone who just walked by. Cash has the best value, and our whole societal security is based on having food and shelter, neither of which they have the ability to build or hoard.
Navi_Here ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:18:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The hard thing I find is you can't guarantee that money you give to a stranger goes to the right needs instead of to an addiction problem. I just want to say good on you for breaking away from homelessness though.
Kind of a hard question to ask, but are you able to recognize those who are truly homeless who could really use the money from those who won't? The only time I've truly felt my cash was going to the right cause is when I talked to a man charging his phone at a parkade car outlet (for winter block heaters). Learned he had an interview later that day and heard a bit of his life story so I gave him $40 and wished him the best. Extremely polite and evidently embarrassed to ask for change.
IKnowUThinkSo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:31:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In answer to your question, I have a question for you: if a homeless person has an addiction, is that need not just as real (and potentially fatal) as the need for food and shelter?
As an actual answer: no, I can't tell the difference at all, and it's really impossible to do so. The answer is crazy complicated but, after being there myself, maybe I can try. Most homeless people have gotten themselves caught in a cycle (my cycle was ended by my parents, but I'd absolutely still be there if not for an infusion of cash) that society has caused. Without a little money and an address, you won't be getting employment. Homeless shelters require you to be there and line up if you want "a bed with a post address" really early, so you can't be out looking for a job while you're waiting for a bed. If you leave that shelter for too long, that address isn't yours anymore and any job applications become nebulous, so that adds a crazy amount of stress and anxiety to an already mentally exhausting situation.
Basically, it's way easier to just deal with sleeping outside and hoping someone has some cash because trying to rebuild a life in this society when you start at literally zero is near impossible. Drugs provide a nice out that allows them to feel better for a while, but now that causes an addiction and other problems. Their need for relaxation and the ability to de-stress (even if it is just chemical and "fake") is just as necessary as your need for it, except you have a place where you can feel safe and express that need.
I know this was long, and probably a little controversial, but I'm gonna end it with this: homeless people are already living a life that you couldn't imagine, and dealing with more stress than most people will admit to, so, if they wanna get a little high or drunk with your money instead of eating a second meal today, can you really blame them? Don't hate them for their needs, or give them things out of pity to make yourself feel like you're helping, but maybe that $5 you got in change could make one day in their life a little less miserable. It won't end the homelessness, but neither will everyone buying them food.
kwkard ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:00:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet he would have gladly accepted a double cheeseburger instead.
processedmeat ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:35:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
panhandleing is kickstarter for /r/outside
Konadrew ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:48:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/showerthoughts
dont_wear_a_C ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And when you think about it, some of these panhandlers make more than minimum wage per hour by simply standing out there, begging for money (untaxed, might I add). That's straight up fucked up. You have people who actually work and then these people.
LonelyPleasantHart ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:51:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some. Some.
SOME
MonkeyOnATypewriter8 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homeless people require more than food. These other requirements involve cash exchange. Maybe the guy legitimately wants to brush his teeth or wear deodorant. They are still people.
BenificusAngorio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why don't you feed them?
buddha453 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haven of rest on market street in Akron has free meals daily for anybody in need.
PM-ME-YOUR-DOGPICS ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:25:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It let's you arrest the ones without a permit and force them to work for $0.25/hour! That makes much more money than simply feeding them and providing them housing.
Ronasty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same for North Carolina. You have to get a permit from the city council to beg or else it is illegal.
mcfliermeyer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:31:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hello akron I am akron. Highland square specifically :)
TakesTheWrongSideGuy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:39:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those permits suck and are normally very restrictive.
robeph ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got proof? Or just talking.
Mangalz ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Average Government Bureaucrat 1: Oh man we can just create a law that requires beggars to get permits, and then make them a pain in the ass to get so very few people can legally beg for money, and then we can fine them and arrest them when they dont pay it and get them off the streets. Where we can spend lots of money housing them taking away their freedom and making it impossible for people to get back on their feet.
Then I can campaign on being instrumental in fixing the homeless problem, by stopping illegitimate begging. And if anyone says what I did was bad I will just say they hate the poor, and especially the black poor.
robeph ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:32:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're just making things up based on a theoretical government bureaucrat and your belief that there is no positive intent in the reason behind the law. Gotcha.
Reality is, you're just hand waving and making baseless statements. Reality is also that the law was repealed. But not for any reason you've thus suggested.
LeahaP1013 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:30:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man I miss A-town.
wellthatsucks826 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:23:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Been here a year, already got robbed twice, watched my neighbor's car get smashed in with a pcp fueled rock wielding naked man, walked outside to a random dude sleeping on my porch. Great town.
cbullins ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:30:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where did you move to that you miss Akron!?
Beer2Bear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Ohio too, I noticed a lot of 'homeless/beggars' sitting standing near Route exits. What gives about that?
ZaMelonZonFire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was like that in Dayton Ohio before I left... it's a big problem up there
Chucktayz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately They often don't wear them tho. And the majority of Akron is in financial need
scottevil110 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha ha, of course that's the solution they came up with. "Come obtain a homelessness license from city hall."
There's no need for anyone to prove anything. I can either choose to give them money or not. That's my call.
EL1CASH ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:55:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did not expect to see my hometown in the comments. Good work.
ohiofish1221 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lebron Change
StoneyMcGyver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from the Akron area and haven't seen any badges. What do they look like?
nodeofollie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Akron was pretty bad when I went to college in 06. Once had a dude drool all over my window asking for money outside my bank.
On another note, had a friend that I would make bootleg movies and CDs for in exchange for a gram bag lol. Best dude ever. I would also buy him burgers with my zipcash in exhange for trees as well. True hustling out there.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:39:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean homeless people can get permits but voter ID laws are racist?
jsaucedo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm assuming it's to tax them
Rellikten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So like a beggars license or guild of beggars of sorts?
Mcmuphin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't they have that in downtown Cleveland as well? I was approached outside house of Blues by a guy with a placard around his neck with a picture of him and his daughter and some personal info. Looked pretty official at a glance but I didn't have any cash to give him. This was probably 5 or 6 years ago though
WARNING_im_a_Prick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Spare some change?"
"lemme see some credentials"
sotomoto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would say instead of going through all of that to get a license to beg, they should spend that money towards some sort of work program for the city.
Macarogi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They eliminated the permit system last year:
http://fox8.com/2016/05/10/akron-city-council-repeals-panhandling-ordinance-after-lawsuit-threat-from-aclu/
fantasygod777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would 100% give money more if this was the case. I don't give do to not knowing if they are like this scummy lady.
thick1988 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a great idea. We should just give them all this special yellow star to wear so everyone knows they are legit.
loki2002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So they make a particular group of people wear a badge based on the thing that sets them apart from others? This sort of thing never leads to anything good.
OldBreadbutt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how you acquire a permit like that. ... holy crap there's an article about it.
infinitypIus0ne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, if I saw someone doing this I wouldn't make a video trying to shame them cause they clearly have none. I would just make note of her car and then next time she goes off to panhandle i would let down all of her tyres and and pour paint thinner on her car and leave a note on her windshield.
Does that make me a bad person....maybe, but I bet having her car fucked like that will make her stop.
acrowsmurder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't panhandling illegal, making getting a permit a catch-22?
Lepryy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also in Winston-Salem NC.
Haokah226 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't this an actual practice in the past. I feel like I have heard that this has been used before in history.
FreeThinkk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. I've given to panhandlers fairly often on market street in Akron. Never noticed they had permits.
GamingWithBilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how much does a panhandler permit cost?
ohmy1027 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They passed this same law in my hometown, but the ACLU is fighting it. They say it is unconstitutional, that begging on street corners is free speech protected by the 1st Amendment.
Drews232 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they are in public begging they are indeed more in need than me, either psychologically, financial, or both. No need for further analysis. Just the act of begging confirms it. I don't judge my fellow man on his worthiness to engage in the act of begging.
readscarymakeart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It blew my mind the first time I saw a panhandler license there!
pheonix2OO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you ever visit NYC, do not give money to the "beggars". They are all PROFESSIONAL panhandlers. NYC has programs to help the homeless. The people with funny/clever signs begging for money or the "cripples" begging for money are PROFESSIONAL panhandlers making a lot more money that most people in the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLkX7e4G0h8
https://www.reddit.com/r/JusticePorn/comments/15briu/disabled_woman_beggar_busted_in_new_york_city/
g_mo821 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People come to Boulder to be homeless, the choose to live on the street because it's an alternative lifestyle. It's stupid.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this sounds pretty bad actually
elislider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/Portland where is your god now?
FlatusGiganticus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As good as that sounds, it seems like a blatant 1A violation.
ViciousDiarrhea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How much does the permit cost?
jostler57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does one prove they have nothing?
Like, someone asks, "Do you have a house or other assets," and if the reply is "Nope," they believe it?
Or, for example, I have student loan debt; my net worth is -$30,000. Am I in need? I have less than nothing.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:34:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats definitely the dumbest thing I've heard today....you have to get permission from the government to be homeless? That's ridiculous
DangerOfLightAndJoy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, you have to get permission to beg on the side of the road.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's just as ridiculous
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:37:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That seems like a smart way to do it. Do you know how they get the permits?
zmose ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: Lebron AND Steph curry were both born in Akron, Ohio
hi_iam_lalaisland ยท 3115 points ยท Posted at 16:47:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"some one is going to kill you" um.... threatening poeple's life doesn't sound smart
athural ยท 502 points ยท Posted at 17:16:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For real. I dont know if they can get the cops involved because of her begging for money. I can guarantee that they can get the police involved over death threats Edit: so the police would not be able to do anything about this threat because there is no sense of imminent danger.
[deleted] ยท 185 points ยท Posted at 17:24:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
athural ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 17:30:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upon googling, it appears that while this definitely costitutes a threat and if something were to happen could be used as evidence, it would not be actionable in itself. "When combined with apparently imminent bodily harm, however, a threat is an assault for which the offender might be subject to civil or criminal liability."
marikuana ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:40:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In other words, just saying "someone is going to kill you" isn't a non-punishable threat, but saying it and actually having the intention to harm you, which she clearly didn't (she's a pussy) is punishable?
athural ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:43:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thats right she's clearly just puffing up to try and get them to go away. however if she had been walking towards them saying "im going to kill you" that would have been a whole different thing
robeph ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:18:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't constitute a threat except under context. The context here is not threatening
EvryMthrF_ngThrd ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:58:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on the jurisdiction, but some U.S. states have a statute for "terroristic threats", which are actionable, in and of themselves.
To wit: "Aย terroristic threatย is when a person threatens to commit any crime of violence against another person with the intent to terrorize. Because this is a speech based crime, it can often be difficult to determine if a person's actions constitute a criminal offense." Source. Just sayin'...
HelperBot_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Non-Mobile link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terroristic_threat?wprov=sfla1
HelperBot v1.1 /r/HelperBot_ I am a bot. Please message /u/swim1929 with any feedback and/or hate. Counter: 71117
drakanwolf ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 18:01:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it became a threat when she added it as a consequence of what was currently happening:
Lady: "Someone's going to end up killing you."
Man: "How? For What?"
Lady: "For harassing me!"
That suddenly made the whole statement a lot more specific.
Abradolf--Lincler ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:24:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, seems like she was hoping to run into someone that would hurt them for her, hence going up to all the Mcree D's employees. I think that's why she said that 'someone' would kill them. Definitely a pretty direct threat
maaaatttt_Damon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:16:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When they ask for what, she says for filming her specifically. I'm not saying it would hold up anywhere, but it is a little more specific than a general warning.
tashibum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:04:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it really not obvious what she's trying to say? She's not saying that she is going to have someone kill them, but someone is going to kill them if they go around doing to others what they're doing to this lady.
odd84 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:29:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Some one is going to kill you" is not legally a death threat, because it's not credible and specific enough that a reasonable person would believe they are in imminent danger from the person making the threat.
lambocinnialfredo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:55:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Procrastinating bar study too, eh?
closest ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure she'll have the best lawyers representing her and get her off with some community service at friend's company, where she'll get an automatic sign off with a little bit of bribery, and back on the streets begging in no time.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:49:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thats why you say "someone"
MrAlpha0mega ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:52:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um, did you copy this comment off youtube? Copied the bad grammar too.
PolarBearRawr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:28:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Come on. She wasn't threatening anyone. Just stating an opinion.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:44:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
hi_iam_lalaisland ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:53:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i made the youtube comment
Mind_Extract ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 18:19:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...Why? Why both?
hi_iam_lalaisland ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:24:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
because its 2 platforms ? why do you care?
Mind_Extract ยท -20 points ยท Posted at 18:33:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's just strange to me. A different way to live your life, I guess.
edit: The stuff that can strike a nerve... I'm sorry that you were offended?
lemonpjb ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:39:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You see commenting on two platforms as a lifestyle choices? Jesus, man.
bagel-master ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
deleted What is this?
skunkwrxs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would have asked 'Who?!'
4juice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think what she meant was, if the videographer keep exposing these homeless frauds, some homeless chap will kill him. It is still a threat nonetheless.
RichardMcNixon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In solidarity with their fake homeless counterparts, i'm sure ;-)
blankemp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:17:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She literally said that someones going to end up killing him for harassing her. More specifically the exchange was "Someones going to end up killing you you hear me?". He says "How? For what?" and she proceeds to say "for harassing me". Sure sounds like a direct threat to me.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:36:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I probably would have pushed the button a bit more to get her to say something stupid no also may or may not have been stabbed
sysadminbj ยท 998 points ยท Posted at 16:51:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hate seeing shit like this. Makes me question everyone that wants a dime. Fuck this guy in particular. I gave him $10 once because I felt sorry for the handicapped dude that was seemingly homeless.
pabloiswatchingyou ยท 325 points ยท Posted at 17:34:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a guy here in Sรฃo Paulo, Brazil, that asks for money so he can get his passport back. He says he's from Auckland, NZ (as I recall), and only speaks in English. I mean, only when that's his character. His Portuguese is excellent.
fernandotakai ยท 118 points ยท Posted at 18:35:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
goddamit i know who this fucker is. my wife was almost dupped by him.
wedwken ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 18:38:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get a lot of australian guys asking for money for a plane ticket home here in germany. Dunno wtf that is about.
mullerjones ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:39:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where is this? I live in Sรฃo Paulo and I've never seen him.
cbhaga01 ยท 111 points ยท Posted at 18:10:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't feel too bad, man. He's in a world of shit now.
OhBestThing ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:59:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right outside Penn Station in NYC once I was walking behind two men having a convo about scamming people for money like this. One guy, a pretty young, fairly ratty looking white guy, was telling his buddy how he made over $100 that day begging people for money with his usual sob story, telling everyone he desperately needed just a few more dollars to finally buy a ticket home for bla bla bla reasons. Made his money, walked out of the train station, went on with his life. What a piece of shit.
HaiKarate ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:25:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give to organizations you trust, not to random strangers walking up to your car window.
MikeDubbz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:35:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That reminds me of a twitch streamer that would make all sorts of money from donations due in no small part to the fact that he portrayed himself as disabled and confined to a wheel chair until one video where the phone rings and he thinks it's stopped recording, so he stands up and walks to pick up the phone. Pretty great to see the guy bust himself.
Calabast ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 17:26:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's another reason I hate seeing a video like this become so popular. Not just because of it showing me an example of a terrible person, but that for every one of these videos that gets big, it nudges everyone to be slightly less compassionate towards the truly destitute and homeless. And those people really do need help that they are not getting.
foofdawg ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:23:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure where you live, but where I live, there's plenty of homeless assistance, shelters, food banks, etc. They'll help you get new ID, clean up, find a job, etc.
BUT you have to be willing to do those things.....
Wave_Entity ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:30:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but thats oversimplifying the situation even when there is help offered. Take a drug addict for example, heroin isn't easy to quit and has a high recidivism rate. The options (from my limited knowledge) for help if you are an addict and homeless are basically to go to an inpatient psych ward, get the drugs that make it so you don't die from the shakes, and then likely get released (but maybe not) in a few weeks. Very few people even in a bad spot want to give up their freedom for un undisclosed amount of time to have the privilege of maybe getting a minimum wage job.
captainNematode ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
eh, IDK if that's necessarily the case -- it could just as well be that it pushes people to be more compassionate to the truly destitute and they go and donate money to GiveDirectly or something, or to a larger aid program that can take advantage of economies of scale. Hell, given plausibly order-of-magnitude differences in effectiveness, even if they gave a fraction of the money they'd give to local panhandlers to somewhere else, the world might still be all the better for it
Matthew212 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:22:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How much a dollar cost?
nevek ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:37:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently the cost is not available.
WolfGuy100 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:49:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, I'm from Lexington too! I remembered WKYT did a story on that guy. Wonder what they think of him now considering that he got exposed.
Soyelkabron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll just save my charity money for the school-age kid selling tamales at the Walmart parking lot
galaxyfilament8602 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even have to click the link to know it was the Lexington wheel chair guy.
Guardian_Ainsel ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To play devil's advocate, is their only proof that she has a car?... aren't there a lot of people who are homeless and who live in their car?... Not saying she's innocent or anything. Just wondering.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:15:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrpp ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:23:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In regions where vacancy rates are low, landlords would not rent to somebody without a job or references. Living in a car is sometimes the only option. Potentially a better use of money as well, as long as you have somewhere to shower and clean up.
faithle55 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fraud is wrong; playing deceitfully on people's sympathy is wrong.
But one false beggar gets a big article on the news, all the real beggars can just get lost and die.
Erdumas ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:25:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people come up to me and ask for money, if I have some on me I give it to them.
I don't believe whatever story they have, maybe it's true, maybe it's not, ultimately I can't verify so that's immaterial.
Asking people for money, face to face, is difficult for most people. Standing in the sun all day is difficult for most people. If someone does hard work, they should get compensated. I'll give what change I have. Although I usually don't have cash on me.
That's how I feel about it. I'm sure others disagree, and that's fine. It's just easier than trying to figure out if I'm being lied to, and more compassionate than saying nobody gets money.
[deleted] ยท 236 points ยท Posted at 17:29:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"This IS viral" I wish I had that confidence in my content.
LavamonsterH2O ยท 149 points ยท Posted at 18:22:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Theres a "homeless" woman who asks for money by where I live (monterey, ca). Her sign says something along the lines of "camper broke down. Son is sick in Oregon. Anything helps. Need to see him. God bless". The sign is painted and looks really good for a panhandling sign, like an old lady with a few extra hours, paints and paintbrushes did it. Ive seen her off and on for a little over two years now. Shes made no progress to Oregon!! Her son Gon' die!!!!!
dreadmonster ยท 373 points ยท Posted at 17:49:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The real victims of this are those poor McDonalds employees the woman won't leave alone.
[deleted] ยท 184 points ยท Posted at 18:39:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is my struggle every day on the NY subway. People will start with "Excuse me, I don't mean to bother anyone, I wouldn't do this if I didn't have to" and usually give a speech about having to feed their disabled child. It's a moral debate every day not knowing if 1. They are telling the truth and I will burn in hell for not helping or 2. It's a scam and am an idiot for giving them money
jamexxx ยท 2658 points ยท Posted at 16:12:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give food, not money, little difficult to spend food๏ปฟ.
MashdPotatoJohnson ยท 3818 points ยท Posted at 16:34:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I always keep a handful of hot dogs in my car
Graize ยท 1728 points ยท Posted at 16:49:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be careful, my friend's car got broken into once and they stole all the hotdogs.
t_bonium119 ยท 799 points ยท Posted at 16:55:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For real, my house got robbed and they took a box of fish sticks from the freezer. During Lent. I needed those fish sticks.
avocadosconstant ยท 455 points ยท Posted at 17:00:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's your explanation. Supply and demand.
My_mann ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 17:05:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The convenience store across the street probably sent a guy to do that job. Smart
[deleted] ยท 164 points ยท Posted at 17:48:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Catholics did 7/11.
mainfingertopwise ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:44:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shop smart! SMart!
losotr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or jesus...always testing
I_worship_odin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:26:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Protestantism is entrenched. Price of fish has gone up 10%. Supply and demand.
TheDollarCasual ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:39:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lent has been commercialized by the Big Fish Stick lobby to increase sales in the waning fish stick industry, don't fall for those charlatans.
antonm07 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:13:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes the invisible hand took your fish sticks. This is basic economics
Hu5k3r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:24:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You guys are killing me!
[deleted] ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 17:07:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
sproaty88 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:20:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you like to put fish sticks in your mouth?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Choke a South Park writer with a fish stick
TheCowfishy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:08:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's an older meme, sir, but it checks out
timbo4815 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:29:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're a gay fish.
IMSmurf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So would you say they liked Fish Sticks? You like putting Fish Sticks in your mouth?
Syllygrrrl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:16:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You like fish sticks? You like to put fish sticks in your mouth?
cryogenisis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Off topic: When I was young I hung out with a thief l'll call Neil. One day we pulled up to a house that caught fire the previous day or so and was now boarded up. Neil jumps out , breaks in and comes out with a few items. Smash-cut to later that day we are barbequing chicken out at the lake.
Neil informs me that we are eating stolen chicken (from the burned out house, the electricity was still hooked up) and the owner died in the fire.
I ate a dead man's chicken.
yojay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeeeeaah
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guys..... I was hungry........
Aldo24Flores ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you dip them in guacamole like this redditor?
porkabeefy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're a gay fish?
jibbyjam1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weird. My house once got broken into and all they stole was a box of tuna cans. There must be cats burgling peoples' homes.
ikmiar82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those poor, poor fish sticks. I feel you man. I've been there. at 3:23 am when you are hungry and first breakfast is still 5 hours away.
_MicroWave_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha. Same happened here. We had a chest freezer in the garage which got broken into. They left the nice joints of beef and lamb but took a couple ice lollies and fish fingers.
willie1707 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's low as hell to take the fish sticks. I could understand taking a couple of corn dogs and maybe even half of a bag of bagel bites, but you don't fuck with someone's fish sticks.
EvryMthrF_ngThrd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... doesn't that make it a religious hate crime? Because of its obvious connection to and being motivated by religion? Hmmmm...
almondania ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MR WEST IS IN THE BUILDING
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My runescape account got robbed. Rip GP.
DeckJesta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are you, a gay fish?
Project_Zombie_Panda ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:23:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fish is still meat...... My family would fight about this every year but my mom welp apparently fish is not meat by some unknown reason coming from my mom
xaijin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, San Francisco.
Squally160 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:26:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had that happen once in my house. Someone broke in, and skinned all my hotdogs. left the centers.
It has taken years of therapy to get back into society.
Thesmuz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what you get for buying off brand, you cheapskate
wazoheat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That might've been a bear
I_Am_Disagreeing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Steal whatever you want but don't you dare touch my hotdogs!
Grimauldus14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stay safe. Don't carry hotdogs or hide them in the boot so would-be thieves can't see them.
slowrx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd think that with his salary phil kessel could buy his own hot dogs
spankymuffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unforgivable.
odombones94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone broke into my car at work and stole my lunch bag, and not the change in the front, or cigarettes, or anything else. Just a broken windows and no lunch pail
nahxela ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look, I already apologized to Dave dozens of times about that. Can you please stop bringing that up, I was just a little hungry!!
FeetOnGrass ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:49:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're all hotdogs on this blessed day!
speranza ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 16:49:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neat trick for this, you can block off the heater vent on the drivers side and put the dogs in a ziplock on the passenger side vent. This prevents the smell of having them in aluminum foil on your dash. Although I don't think they cook as well.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:49:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just use the engine block to cook them, duh.
speranza ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:53:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's great for red meat, not hotdogs. You can actually overcook hot dogs and the block is a great way to do that. Now if you are cooking for yourself, you can regulate the timing better, but you don't always know when you are going to meet a panhandler that isn't a Vegan.
BKD2674 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 16:54:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found Caveman Sam.
HybridGirth ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:45:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sam Losco? What the fuck?
I-hate-other-Ron ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 17:05:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm all about the pocket dog.
Steev182 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:57:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where do you keep getting these hot dogs from?!
PM_ur_Rump ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:29:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/yI6Q_6S-DD4
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people carry a rabbits foot, I like to rock a pocket of puke
Skorpazoid ยท 171 points ยท Posted at 17:06:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always have a pack of Yorkshire Puddings, Suet and a pocket OS Map, in case someone asks for change. Got this from my dad because he coined a phrase 'if you give a man a hammer he will hit nails for a while before the hammer begins to show signs of wear, teach a man to repair that hammer at a later date and he will likely not encounter serious issues with the hammer until several years after the hammers manufactured warranty - if it's from a reputable vendor.'
bclagge ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 17:24:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your dad coined that? I use it all the time. He's a wise man.
Skorpazoid ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 17:29:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. He also revolutionised the drainage and compacting process required to package coconut fibre, at the size required for the demands of a modern market. Likely you have heard of Roger Ellis. But he only perfected the plastic wrapping and chemical cleaning. You won't have heard of James Tamworth. The games rigged.
Artificial_Ninja ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:39:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolls off the tongue
spastic-plastic ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:56:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you Bobby Hill?
housewifeonfridays ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where do you buy suet?
1010010111101 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:54:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One hot dog is a handful if you hold it right.
politicojo33 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:55:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why keep them in your car when you can walk around with a pocket dog?
EddieCheddar88 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:21:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not hotdog
PresMarkle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:21:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found Phil Kessel
Lovescutedogs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good god, Lemon.
Dietomaha ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people get really mad when they see hot dogs in a car though. I've heard of people even breaking the windows to get them out.
I guess some people just don't like cylindrical meat
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can I get some mashed potatoes with that too?
IDontReadTheTitle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Filthy casual. This is why I keep a bunch of spaghetti in my fanny pack
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or maybe just bags of chips and granola bars...
mastiffdude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Timmy, how many hot dogs would you say you eat a day? On average?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too, but I never thought about giving them away. Them are my tube steaks
darkhero5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just imagining you giving out month old moldy hotdogs to people now
SpartanH089 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I keep mine warm in my bunghole.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How long till we see this on /r/lifeprotips ?
neon-blue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn it Gary, I told you my mother is visiting and to get rid of those hot logs last week!!!!!
CO_PC_Parts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pocket dogs
imdivesmaintank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
20 hot dogs equal roughly a nickel ... depending on the strength of the yen. I'm not quite sure.
T0PHER911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about catsup and mustard?
Erj2969 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carry pocket dogs so they stay warmer.
Bluedagger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have some hot dogs ma'am.
darwinuser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes that is a reason.
falconx50 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, this is the reason?
nkronck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Phil Kessel?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
20 of em is like a nickel
itstrueimwhite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The real LPT is always in the comments.
NoMpls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kessel?
NoJelloNoPotluck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
u/MashdPotatoJohnson in action
Floyddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
something something chicken tender something.
I_BE_OVER_9000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How many hot dogs would you say you eat a day?
walkingxbeard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Frozen hotdogs*
HenryAlSirat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please make sure to stay away from Phil Kessel.
Corcast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got โhotdog!โ Join the adventure
jeffmonger ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 17:19:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've done this. Went out of my way to give food. They were clearly disappointed. That's when I learned they can get essentials. It's other things they want.
lululaplap ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 17:29:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After speaking to a few homeless people, they are grateful but you can see you it can be frustrating when it's winter and plenty of people will happily spend ยฃ2 on a sandwich when they don't need food but can't get any money for a hostel that night. It's a complex problem that can't be solved by just giving food away.
TheInverseFlash ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 17:55:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also if they became homeless when they already have a paid off car food isn't going to pay for stuff like gas or parking. In most of America a car is essential to getting around. And just because they're on disability like this woman claims to be food doesn't buy things like clothes. Also who are you to decide someone else's dietary needs? What if they're allergic?
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:03:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
TheInverseFlash ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 18:07:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you think disability pays enough to not be needy you're deluding yourself. Disability is like less than half of minimum wage. Most of my disability cheque goes to my rent. If my dad didn't help me by doing stuff like paying for my internet and I wasn't on my brother's netflix I'd probably be out there begging too. Not to mention with the inflated medical costs in the united states.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 18:18:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
TheInverseFlash ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:20:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also have a fridge! and a microwave! and electricity! I must be FUCKIN' RICH
RRSC14 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:34:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you really REALLY just put Netflix on the same level of need as electricity, a fridge and a microwave? Holy shit. I suppose it would be impossible to live without Netflix when you're sitting around all day waiting for that disability check to come.
riddleman66 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:39:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why did you even bring up Netflix? Jesus.
Dubhzo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drugs most of the time unfortunately, at least where I'm from.
PainMatrix ยท 455 points ยท Posted at 16:34:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've given food several times and gotten shit for it each time. Makes it hard to keep feeling charitable.
thefuzzyfox ยท 192 points ยท Posted at 16:41:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have to know what people say when they're angry you gave them a free lunch. It's a giveaway they want cash for something other than food. What kind of crap do they give you?
PainMatrix ยท 115 points ยท Posted at 16:44:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The most recent one after being given several sleeves of peanut butter crackers asked "what else you got?" The one before took the subway sandwich I had just bought for myself and said "where am I supposed to put this?" The one before that had no response at all.
thefuzzyfox ยท 183 points ยท Posted at 17:09:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just wow. I was in a Starbucks years ago right about closing time getting a black coffee and the cashier asked me if I would like any of the sandwiches and handed me a couple of turkey and stuffing varieties. She explained that they were all going to be thrown away after closing because of the sell by date and hated to see them go to waste. There were a bunch of them left and I accepted two of them with many thanks. She was offering some to a few folks at the tables outside as I left. Someone taking time to share food with you is one of the kindest acts they can do. It's implicitly concerned for your well being, I mean it's something mothers do for their children. That cashier stuck in my mind for a long time because of the gesture. The sandwiches were freaking delicious too lol. It just blows my mind that a person would look down on you or turn up their nose at such compassion. Even if they're not hungry in that moment, they will be at some point. I just can't imagine being down and out and having food not be good enough.
Mr_Tchuwinsky ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 18:36:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went through a McDonald's drive thru at 2:30 AM one time...not drunk, just super hungry. I added an apple pie to my order and the guy gave me 12 apple pies!!
Not really relevant, I just don't get many chances to share this story because it embarrasses me wife. I ate all of the apple pies.
zoomfrog2000 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:26:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a college student anymore and I'm still grateful whenever I get offered free food. I've never and will never give anything to these asshat pan handlers. There are people who are in need of mental healthcare or just really had a hard life but then you have people who know they can make a buck and ruin it for everyone. It's also upsetting to see people give them money too because they have a heart but also gullible as hell. This also just increases the problem. If you're going to give, just give food.
janiekh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:29:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the homeless people that turn down free food aren't actually homeless. Or they just want money to buy more drugs.
i_give_you_gum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agree with you for the most part, but there is also some fear on homeless folks' minds that people will intentionally tamper with food that they are giving.
Sure, there are some people who are like you're referring to, but just wanted to let you know why some may be weary of taking free food that's offered to them.
Edit: I guess the dv are from people with aggressive homeless, that's not the case everywhere
thefuzzyfox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:36:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sealed food and drink would be welcomed though, I would think.
parchy66 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:27:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
huh?
the real answer is that the majority of homeless people get all the free food they want since this is a first world country overflowing with an abundance of organizations eager to feed the homeless. They don't want the fresh food you order them because they aren't hungry. They want money for drugs or booze most of the time.
CrisisOfConsonant ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 17:10:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The answer to that seems extremely obvious.
SenselessNoise ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:16:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's "Up your ass," right?
cjhobbes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:27:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"what do you want, cartman? a freakin medal?"
Cosmic_Ostrich ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:18:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
relevant
tgifmondays ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:26:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if the person just ate? If everyone was offering them food, they would have to lug around a garbage bag of sandwiches going bad.
tomcatHoly ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:50:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, I'm no dietician or anything, but in that case they either cross "Hungry" off of their cardboard sign; OR they get the fuck off of the median for a while, clearly satisfied of their human need?
tgifmondays ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 17:53:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll never be satisfied as long as tough guy dipshits like you exist. Don't give them money or food if you don't want, dumbass.
tomcatHoly ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:05:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're over here trying to stand up for Beggars who end up being Vicious choosers. You're attempting to justify them lashing out at kind hearted folks who offer them that which they don't truly want.
And I'm the tough guy for pointing out an obvious flaw in your specious reasoning? What was even "tough" about it? Nothing.
Meanwhile your response painting me with the broad brush you keep loaded at your hip can easily be characterized as antagonistic, making you the limp wristed tough guy here, bud.
chelseablues111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Up your ass
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:19:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't put this up my nose or in a needle!
frelling_nemo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, not with that attitude.
downvote_me_moreYOLO ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:12:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just inject the sandwich into your veins
cramdizzl ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:42:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sucks to receive those kind of responses but don't let it stop you. Anyone says that and you can immediately label them as a fraud just looking for drug/booze money. At the very least you know for the next time you see them. And at best it's a chance to show some love to someone who needs it.
Pyro_Cat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:58:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just to break up all the shit stories of shit people being shitty: I was driving to work last week when a gentleman walked up to my car (stopped at a red) and put his hand to his mouth. I looked at my lunch: a bag of deli ham and a babybel cheese. I held up the bag and mimed like "I don't know man, all I have is a bag of ham, you can have it though." and he nodded, smiled and came to the window. He said "thank you" and took it and went back to the sidewalk.
It was weird, but I hope it made his day a little better.
skip_tracer ยท 315 points ยท Posted at 17:00:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On a freezing day a few years back, my sister stopped in to her regular cafe for her daily coffee. She bought a guy begging outside a hot chocolate, on her card no less, and gave it to him. He literally threw it at her, spilled all over her clothes. He said "I don't want your fucking food I want your fucking money". Now if she hadn't been bundled up, she could have been seriously burned. The guy was lucky I wasn't there. I would have beat him to death. But that's just one example, and the big reason I stopped giving anything to beggars in Philadelphia.
MrHaxx1 ยท 175 points ยท Posted at 17:25:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
???
Even if I was a fake homeless, I would've still said yes to a free hot chocolate. Hell, I'd say yes to a free hot chocolate now.
What's wrong with people?
Imgonnathrowawaythis ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 17:42:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drug addiction.
MrHaxx1 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:46:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, of course, but I don't think that anyone would give him money, after he threw hot chocolate at him.
But then again, I shouldn't consider proper logic from drug addicts.
[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 17:52:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mental illness and drug addiction
skip_tracer ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:01:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the correct answer. And for anyone reading this far down, I want to be clear that I am sympathetic to the plights of these people. I just...have to take care of myself and protect those that I love.
Z0di ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:02:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They want 5$ for hard drugs.
thefuzzyfox ยท 195 points ยท Posted at 17:12:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's when you call the police for assault with a weapon. Fuck that guy.
brycedriesenga ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:35:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure I would've went back inside, bought another coffee, and then poured it on him.
MikoRiko ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 17:28:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He'd probably welcome a trip to jail if it was freezing. And prosecuting the homeless rarely gets you anywhere anyways. It's fairly hard to serve a summons if they have no home address or place of work and you have no idea where they are. They will invariably miss court dates, probation meetings, and won't do community service. Even if they rack up enough "bad boy points" to go to prison, it's not going to be worse than the streets. They'll get fed, have a bed and amenities, and in the end be put in cahoots with worse networks of people.
Better to just leave him in the cold if you're really feeling vindictive.
SinkHoleDeMayo ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:29:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're freezing and have no real way to get out of the cold, wouldn't you welcome a hot drink? If someone can get in their car anytime or go home, they're probably not too concerned about the cold. Someone who is homeless knows survival means accepting what you can.
RovDer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:14:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've known a few homeless people that'll purposely get caught stealing in a store when it's cold. Usually just something cheep so the sentence won't be severe.
JustThall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. Speaking of malicious indifference
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:29:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:45:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
good, give him something he likes and take it away again
WildBillandDirtyTom ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:36:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Philly beggars done fucked up my charitable inclinations too. Washing my hands in the Suburban station restroom some guy asks for a hand out. Poor student me fished out some pocket change. He looks at it pissed off, "Is that all!". It took me a second to process the audacity of it. I just turned around and threw it all over the piss-covered floor then left. -WB
And that is how me and Bill met. Jk. Different restroom, different kind of soliciting. -DT
weiistone ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 17:03:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...that makes you want to give up on charity all together. Luckily she wasn't burnt.
Luquitaz ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:59:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the contrary, if you're feeling generous give to a reputable charity and not to beggars on the street.
bl00drunzc0ld ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:19:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Leaving Cheesecake Factory in Seattle, have homeless guy ask for my leftovers, give them to him, watch as he opens the box and checks the food, then walks across the street and trashes it. Fuck those people.
raspberry_man ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:00:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
really? it does?
sounds like you're weren't all that invested in charity
weiistone ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:12:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
true. i don't really give out except to the food bank.
hellofellowstudents ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with that.
I'm not particularly invested in charity.
raspberry_man ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:19:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cool
tatertot255 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:59:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every Wawa sob story ever
"Hey my wife and kid are in my car that's out of gas and I need 5 dollars to fill my car up enough to drive home back to Pittsburgh"
Fuck off
skip_tracer ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:08:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best friend told me this one years ago...
He'd go to the Wawa at 21st and Hamilton every day for his morning coffee, about ten years back. Same guy was outside everyday begging, same sign that read "homeless and hungry" and everyday my buddy would give him the left over change from his purchase. One Friday this guy wasn't there, and right back at it Monday. My friend was sitting in his car as he pulled up, responding to a text about work. He heard his regular beggar talking to another semi regular beggar about his absence the week prior, and how he had picked up overtime at work, and then had to prep food for a cookout at his house he was hosting on Saturday so he just didn't have the time to panhandle. When my friend left the guy said "hey man, good to see you, got anything for me today?" and my buddy just said "no pal, but how was the cookout?". They didn't get along after that.
tatertot255 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahaha that's too good.
Lairothelastone ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:17:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You wouldn't have beat him to death. He's already fucked up by the state he was. Throwing coffee at him would've been way more appropriate.
demortada ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:11:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is so infuriating to me.
We have panhandlers in Seattle, and I always passed this one dude every day but never had cash. He was always so friendly and had a great big smile on his face, rain or shine. He was selling papers at $2 a pop. I couldn't afford to buy any of his papers, but I did offer to buy him coffee and a meal at Starbucks. He was super cool about it and didn't abuse that privilege. We chatted for a while and he was homeless, but saving up money to go to a different city (I think Vancouver?) and start a life there.
I haven't seen him in two years, so I hope shit actually worked out for him. They're not all bad, but I totally understand how that would spoil your attitude about it. Just makes me angry that shitheads like the one in your story ruin it for everyone else.
skip_tracer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too true. As a person with empathy I want to help, and I hope for the best for all. But I can't pick and choose either, so I keep it to a strict "no handouts policy". Besides, I'm not well off. I'm alone at the moment, and trying to do things with my life. I work hard, and I try to enjoy myself all while planning for my future. It is what it is I suppose.
Sidenote, I'll be in Seattle in 2 weeks. I love it out there, try to vacation in the Pacific Northwest as often as possible.
demortada ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was a graduate student, and I recently graduated (like, last week) - so I'm still burdened with debts. Whatever I have on me isn't mind, it's my parent's money. I have zero money to my name and zero employment. I'm in no position to be giving out money either, but I happily give my time to the local trail association.
Yay! Sounds like you've been here before so I imagine you don't need the grand ol' tour, but if you need someone to grab a bite or a HH drink with, feel free to message me and we can try to meet up.
matane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's philly for you. If they're not interested in food I give them the location of the nearest men's/women's shelter, because there are a shitload here, and tell them they should go there for a roof over their head and medical care if they need it. Lots of mental illnesses and money grubbing have definitely let me to ignore a lot of panhandlers here in the city.
Champigne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No wonder he was an asshole.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That pissed me off so much that I almost downvoted you :(
katieanyone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Philly is the worst for beggars and their scams. One guy had an iPhone when they first came out so many years ago. Is it possible that it was gifted to him or he purchased it before he fell on hard times? Yes, but it wasn't likely.
Nayre_Trawe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:25:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In fairness, many homeless people are mentally ill and the behavior this individual displayed was not necessarily as intentionally/consciously hostile as it may have appeared. Plus, if you have never lived on the street before it is really hard to understand what these people go through. It is a brutal and unforgiving existence.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guy sounds like a real jerk
DefconDelta88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should have thrown her coffee back at him. Worth it.
timescrucial ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:24:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i gave dude an orange once. he threw it back at my car. never again. i was gonna eat it.
ohh-kay ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:35:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like some George from Seinfeld shit, though he would have gotten out of the car, and walked over to go pick it up, but just before he got there, another car would have driven by ans squished it. Then would have yelled at the homeless guy for ruining a perfectly good orange. But of course then his boss or girlfriend at the time or whomever would be eating in a restaurant across the way and just see George yelling at some homeless guy.
stokelydokely ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:27:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A few months ago, a guy came up to me asking for money "so he could take the train to his appointment." Through the course of our short chat, his story fell apart pretty quick and we both realized it. I still wanted to help him and told him that I'd get him some food from the 7-11. He scoffed and glared at me and said "naw man, why can't you just gimme the money?"
cruelhumor ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:58:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have read about some legitimate answers to this issue, the best explanation is that if EVERYONE gives food (especially stuff that has to be kept cold/hot) the donation goes to waste because it can't all be eaten, and has to be thrown out before it goes bad. I rarely get the stink eye for giving non-perishables like granola bars or trail mix, and if they have a problem with THAT, then they are looking for money or booze
thefuzzyfox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, if everyone did give food, wouldn't a person stop begging for a bit when they got enough for a day or two and just go back at it when they are hungry again? If they are homeless then it's not like they have rent or utilities to worry about so I can't really get behind the notion that they only want cash because all the food won't keep. I think we're wise to the fact that not everyone begging is being honest though and that stings a bit.
LemonBork ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:47:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once went to lunch at a Wendy's near work and noticed a guy with a sign that said he was hungry. I thought "Right, I should buy this guy a meal!" I got him food and a drink and took it out to him. This was many years ago so I don't remember if he thanked me, but what I DO remember is that as I walked away I looked back just in time to see him throw the entire bag into the garbage. I stopped giving anything after that day.
Another time, we were waiting in line to see a show and a homeless lady approached the line and went down to each person begging for money. When she got to us I gave her a quarter and told her "Sorry, this is all I have." Which was true. After taking the quarter she looks down at my coat pocket and jabs a round object that she can see through the fabric and she says "Then what's that?" As if I was holding out on her and she was owed any money I was carrying.
It was button.
thefuzzyfox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not obligated to give her anything, and that includes the truth. Not that she was being entirely truthful with what she's using the money for. Unbelievable reaction at being given something.
Champigne ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:17:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't want lunch, they want drugs. People seem to be really naive about the fact that many panhandlers are drug addicts and are looking for money to buy their next bag/pill/rock. They're not starving. There are resources for the homeless to be fed. Churches, food pantries, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, dumpsters, etc. are sources for free food. Not so many places offer free drugs.
da1hobo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:28:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tried giving a subway sandwich to a guy who had a sign that said he was hungry. He asked me how he was going to pay rent with a sandwich. Another time a guy gave me a story about being out of gas so I gave him the emergency 3 gallon can I have in my trunk and he threw it in the trash as he stormed off.
thefuzzyfox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I mean he could save his money he was going to spend on lunch. Subway ain't free!
jediassassin37 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:57:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend and I saw a "homeless" person near a McDonald's once in Colorado Springs and her sign said, "Homeless and hungry." We went through the drivethru and got an extra meal and went up and offered it to her. She kept refusing to the point of being angry, so we drove off and split the food. Becauae of this, I have never given a single thing to any other person that claims they are homeless, not even food.
HappyPlace003 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:39:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's important to remember that generally, they're mentally unstable or drug abusers (or both). Sometimes they get angry, but most are very appreciative if the kindness.
thefuzzyfox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's true, you just never know who you're dealing with.
Starkville ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
butting in The ones I've offered food to (in NYC) usually just say "no thanks". My daughter has handed them granola bars and they usually take it and say "thanks. Got any spare change?"
jbg830 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in college, I was walking home drunk from the bars and this guy was standing outside of a Mcdonalds asking for money for food. I, being drunk and feeling compassionate, didn't have any money so I went in and bought him a 2 cheeseburger meal with my debit card. He threw the bag at me when I handed it to him.
RiotTerablo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:37:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I found out the gentleman hanging out at the bus stop next to taco bell in santa monica is Vegan. He turned down honeys kettle fried chicken.
Sadly, I surprisingly rarely have leftover broccoli with me on my way home from a restaurant.
thefuzzyfox ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:39:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never have I thought the adage "beggars can't be choosers" is more appropriate.
Kanyes_PhD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:20:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, a lunch is going to feed them, but it isn't going to help them stop being homeless. The only thing that will do that is a stable job, and that often requires looking presentable in an interview. And for that they'd need money to clean up and get a good pair of clothes.
CosmicVibrations ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's a "power user" stoking the fire for karma
SJaxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bought a panhandler a cookie from Ben and Jerry's last month and he turned it down because "sweets hurt his stomach." While walking away I saw a cell phone behind his "hungry" cardboard sign.
joshmoneymusic ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:02:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a homeless fellow ask me for change so I gave him an IPA instead. He seemed pretty happy about that.
DukeNukem_AMA ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:15:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I gave a Hoegaarden to one once then felt really bad because I didn't have an opener. I'm pretty sure he found a way though.
i_give_you_gum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:24:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a dam fine beer
guccinova ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:03:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhh, one day I had came out of the store with a six pack in hand and there was a panhandler outside. He asked for change but told him I didn't carry cash. I offered him the beer and he said "allllriiiiiiiight that'll work". At least I know it isn't going towards something I wouldn't do right?
joshmoneymusic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:14:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was basically my same scenario. I already had the beer so why not?
_The_Judge ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:27:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in my 20's we had a company party that resulted in a bunch of alcohol not getting consumed. When people we're looking for ideas on what to do with it, the first thing that came to mind was to go give it to the homeless. I got so much shit for publicly saying that, but for fucks sake, some people are not able to deal with reality head on. I ended the day by telling my boss, you're right, I realize now we should only be offering the homeless vegan gluten free bran muffins and I apologize. That comment set me back again.
CamenSeider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Way to possibly feed an addiction.
joshmoneymusic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:56:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then it's what he would have done with the money anyway. I saved him the trouble.
CamenSeider ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:57:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I don't give money.
FrostyD7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its also an easy item to sell or give to other homeless people you may know. Food not so much because there are services providing this already.
hang3xc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
India Pale Ale? International Phonetic Alphabet ?
These are what a Google search turns up
joshmoneymusic ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:28:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He was so happy I gave him an alphabet to use for his signs.
sibre2001 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:21:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine runs a homeless shelter. She begged us to not even give the local homeless food. Because they eat your food so they don't have to go to the shelter where they try and get them clean and get them a job. You donation of food means they can avoid the shelter and spend all of their money on drugs and alcohol.
bclagge ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:28:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, and if you give them money they'll just buy whatever they want - food, drugs, alcohol. The solution is to never give them anything. If someone desperately wants to help, give money to the local shelter or soup kitchen.
Antinode_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:29:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I remember one time a guy came up to me and my dads truck window while we were eating and asked for money. My dad turned him down and I asked howcome, he said since the guy was smoking a cigarette he probably would have just spent it on them or booze and wasnt going to support that
talk2melikethatagain ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:14:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was visiting Boston with my boyfriend and we passed by someone who had a sign that said "homeless and I love whiskey."
My boyfriend gave him money and said "Gotta respect the honesty"
Stratisphear ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:01:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's wrong with them spending money on alcohol?
Antinode_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're the only who who said anything about that
SnakeAColdCruiser ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:30:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just having left a restaurant, a friend offered half a pizza to a homeless guy begging nearby. Homeless guy's response: "grrr I DON'T LIKE PIZZA!!!". Definition of a beggar trying to be a big time chooser. And who doesn't like pizza?
iamkoalafied ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:28:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard before that it usually isn't a good idea to give food for a couple of different reasons. One is that they might have some allergy or intolerance you aren't aware of. Another is that not everyone who is begging for money is starving right that instant. If everyone gives them food, they now have to carry that food around with them. It's not good if it is perishable too.
Everyone is different though and some may be fine with you giving them food.
PunkorTrendy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They should be grateful for anything because it's free
Beggars can't be choosers
iamkoalafied ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:18:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No? People shouldn't be forced to take food that they are allergic or intolerant to just to be polite. If someone isn't hungry at that moment and doesn't have the ability to carry around food or store perishable food, they shouldn't feel inclined to take food from someone else either. Of course they should be polite when declining the food.
Fkeu ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:22:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad buys $5 McDonalds gift cards and hands those out to people he judges looks like they really need it. Never a complaint but they can only spend it on food. And 5 is a good amount there.
Semyonov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good idea
CrazyAlice ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:52:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're absolutely right, they really don't want food anyway. Story time: years ago, when I about 18-19, I pulled into a combination gas station/McDonald's in Detroit. As I was walking in, a panhandler asked for $1.05 for "a double cheese burger." I told the guy that I didn't have any change on me, but I would take care of him on the way out. After I made my initial purchase, I swung by the McDonald's counter and ordered a few double cheeseburgers for the dude standing outside asking for food money. I walked back out, the guy asked me again for $1.05, seemingly forgetting about the previous conversation that we had before I walked into the store. I handed him the hot and fresh bag of McDonalds... and I'll never forget the look he gave me. He looked at me like I was literally insane, then threw the bag on food on the ground and said something like, "I asked for money, not for food." This interaction has shaped the way I treat all panhandlers from that point forward. Regardless of how dire their situation may appear, I will not "donate" in any of these situations. It's not my job to determine or try to remedy someone's level of destitution, I just tell them "sorry" and keep walking.
Kokeshi_Is_Life ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:25:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's...inherently patronizing most of the time.
You give then food instead of money and that tells someone right away that you think they'll just blow the money on booze or alcohol. It takes away the thing beggars lack most: autonomy. Food scraps so you don't starve to death is easy to beg for. Enough money to.make at least one autonomous decision, what to purchase, is much harder--and a much greater psychological attack.
Given their situation, you'd hope they'd be grateful for food, but between mental illnesses and bitter broken people it stands to reason some aren't going to be grateful for the reminder of their powerlessness.
lookmeat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:28:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is people have needs. You need to pay for transportation, shelter, and other needs beyond food. Moreover people don't realize the kind of food they give (and many times there are better sources of food). If you go to a mac donalds and buy them a meal and give it to them, you, inadvertently, gave them the meal for took away from them the bathroom.
To play devil's advocate: you are not giving them what they ask you for, you are giving them what you think they need without really understanding their situation. It's like you asking me to borrow a screwdriver and I giving you a hammer because "it's free, you should take it and be thankful to me for it".
pontoumporcento ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:19:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the point. They come asking for money to buy food, I usually tell them alright let me go with you and I'll buy the food.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many times they are on EBT, so food isn't a problem. Beggers who get angry need the money for either alcohol or drug.
WorkFlow_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just don't give anything at all. Problem solved.
buzzkill71 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm...worked in downtown Atlanta for 15 years and would get panhandled daily by various people. In hundreds of attempts my entire time down there I offered each time to take them less than a block to a food court and buy them what ever food they wanted ...as much as they wanted if they came with me right then......15 years and 0 people took me up on my offer. I would have bought them enough food to last multiple days if they need/wanted it but they always wanted money...no food. I never carry cash so said sorry I couldn't help them.
Had a few instances of being verbally accosted for offering to get them food. Had one guy that followed a few feet behind me for 2 blocks cussing at me and threatening me physically if I didn't give him a dollar. Called cops on cell and just kept walking. One of the few times I really felt in fear for my safety. Gotta say it was awhile after that incident before I started offering to buy people food.
bubbletea_fett ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A couple good "rules" to follow when giving food are:
My lunch routine is to pick up a sub sandwich and a drink, but if a homeless person along the way asks me for food - and then doesn't curse me out when I pass by - I just pay a few cents extra to upgrade my meal to a combo with chips and then drop off the chips on my way back.
The 2nd point is kind of important because some messed-up people will spit in food (or worse) and then "kindly" give it to the homeless.
MyHobbyIsMagnets ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A guy I pass every day stands outside with a sign that says "homeless vet, hungry, anything helps." So one day I tried to give him a fresh bagel I had in the car and he just said "Nah, I'm good." No thanks or anything.
FrostyD7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most beggars on the street are there for cash, there are plenty of ways to get food if you're homeless in most cities.
LazyCon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:46:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homeless people aren't supposed to take food. People poison it a lot and leftovers can get you sick. Cash is better, but sealed food containers are find too. As long as they don't take a can opener obviously, or heating.
KosmicTom ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 16:56:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had one guy tell me this when I offered him my leftovers from a pretty high end dinner, and he demanded cash instead. Where is this epidemic of people poisoning food to give to the homeless?
LazyCon ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:59:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't call it an epidemic but it's often enough that social workers do tell them not to accept unsealed food(though most do anyways). Also eating after other people is a good way to get sick and nothing makes being homeless and hungry worse than the flu or diarrhea.
p4lm3r ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:24:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This must be area specific, as I work in conjunction with the United Way and their Mini-MACH(Midlands Area Consortium for the Homeless) program and I have never heard this ever. I also work directly with a ton of homeless, and they will happily take prepared food if we are cooking.
Again, my region may not be representative of elsewhere, I am just surprised if it is a thing, United Way and the other partners haven't brought it up.
Casult ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:10:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's interesting they are worried about getting sick from actual leftovers, people around here with jobs and money are dumpster diving for food out of wanting to recycle.
kwyjibohunter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mental illness certainly is interesting.
DukeNukem_AMA ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:13:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty shit advice if it means refusing the only guy who offers to give you anything that night. And it only furthers the unfair stereotype that they might not be homeless/hungry, or only want it for drugs
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Assuming someone did not spit back into a container, how are you suggesting food is contaminated? from what is someone getting sick if they do not share the utensil?
jmurphy42 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:13:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If we're talking about partially eaten leftovers, you don't need to have shared the utensil. The utensil touched the leftovers at some point, so saliva, viruses and bacteria are transferred.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then cut off the portion that has been exposed. Problem solved.
Bloodysneeze ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:26:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Is this actually happening or is this another 'razor blades in candy on Halloween' thing?
ghostdate ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:57:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to say "who the fuck poisons homeless people?" But then I remembered that some people are sadistic pieces of shit, and like preying on the less fortunate. That's pretty fucked up.
MaxPaynesRxDrugPlan ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:13:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here's one example: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/san-antonio-police-officer-matthew-luckhurst-fired-homeless-man-feces-sandwich/
RUFckinKdingMe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hardly an applicable example
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:06:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Aren't supposed to", according to what rule, regulation, or law? Who sets the conduct on what they are 'suppose' to do? Exactly who or what entity has, in your mind /u/lazycon, dictated what is and is not 'suppose' to occur?
scro-hawk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:20:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, and what are the ramifications?
Gen_McMuster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Social workers tell them it's a bad idea. They generally don't listen to social workers though
CrisisOfConsonant ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:13:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Umm.. that's a pretty bold statement. Can you back up that a lot of people poison food they give to the homeless?
I mean that seems even less tenable than the old poison Halloween candy story that's completely fake (there has been one semi-related case, a father tried to kill his son with poison candy at Halloween).
There were cases of restaurants bleaching their food before throwing it in a dumpster. But that's a long way off from handing someone poisoned food.
thurn_und_taxis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was in a Pret a Manger recently (a sandwich shop). This young lady walked in with a homeless guy and had him pick out whatever he wanted. Then she bought it for him. It was really sweet, and a good way of getting around the problems you mention regarding tainted food.
wtfduud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now you made me remember the story of the guy who put razorblades in candy.
weiistone ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:03:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of those signs that say "don't feed the animals"
Wolfntee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I gave food once after telling the same guy I didn't have money an hour earlier (I'm in college so I really didn't have any), but the guy was super grateful for the candy I shared with him.
TheMysteriousFizzyJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They usually say they have diabetes or can't eat something like that.
I might offer bread or donuts. Sometimes I'll buy a burger if near a McDs
cramdizzl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sucks to receive those kind of responses but don't let it stop you. Anyone says that and you can immediately label them as a fraud just looking for drug/booze money. At the very least you know for the next time you see them. And at best it's a chance to show some love to someone who needs it.
trevmiller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was grabbing lunch downtown once and asked a homeless guy (who is a regular in our town) if he wanted to grab a burrito with me. He asked where I was going and I said probably just Chipotle. He goes, "Ehh... I'm kinda holding out for some Tio Alberto's..."
Another time, my wife and I made a bunch of breakfast burritos, and went walking downtown to hand them out to anyone that wanted them. One gentleman became very angry and aggressive, and made some strong advances toward my wife, so we had to book it out of there. She was pretty shaken up, and it was pretty clear he had some issues with mental illness. I saw a news story somewhere the following week that the same man had been arrested for slapping a little boy in the face who was just walking by with his mom.
Interacting with homeless folks can be such a mixed bag, because you never know what background they are coming from. I used to be in the habit of inviting folks to lunch with me, and talking with them for half an hour or so. Much harder to do now with a wife and kids. Reactions ran the gamut from people who genuinely seemed to appreciate the meal and the human interaction, and people who declined altogether. I'd usually still buy them something to eat after, if they seemed like they didn't want to lose half an hour of holding a sign. It's tough to not let the difficult reactions become disheartening, but it totally makes up for it when you get to have a great, encouraging talk with someone and learn about their life and experiences.
tmntnut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll usually ask if they're hungry, if they say yes I'll swing by a drive thru and grab a meal for them. Couple times I ran into the same lady outside of a convenience store and bought her a little cuban sandwich, every time I've done that the person was grateful but I've also always asked before hand if they'd like a meal. I've never given money because I used to have a problem with substance abuse and I am not about to enable anybody else, I will however put a meal in their belly if they're in need.
Imreallythatguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Buying them a sandwich and giving them your shitty leftovers are two very different things. Many homeless people are not starving so being offended when they turn down your half eaten piece of pizza shouldn't come as a surprise. That said buying them a $5 sandwich from subway should be fine...
lukin187250 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One time I went to give a homeless dude some money and he said he'd rather food cause he couldn't trust himself with the money so I bought him a burger.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does it? Are you being charitable for them or yourself?
antaryon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's because you're not really helping them, just pretending to. They don't need food.
Z0di ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
don't give as if you know they want it, ask if they want it.
sonrisa_medusa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One time my boyfriend and I were eating on the patio of a restaurant and a homeless lady approached us. She asked for money claiming she and her kids hadn't eaten in days and that they were left inside her van nearby. Visibly she appeared to be abusing meth or some other hard drugs. She looked like she hadn't slept in days and her skin was riddled with sores and scabs. I told her to go get her kids, bring them to us and we could all sit and have dinner with each other and that I'd happily pay. She smiled and thanked me and went off to "get her kids". She never returned.
Champigne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't buy dope with food (usually). Know that the vast majority of beggars are junkies that will use that change to buy drugs. If you're okay with that, then by all means, give them a dollar. But I choose not to. I might spare the few coins I have in my car occasionally but I'm not paying for someone's next pill of dope. Generally I ignore panhandlers, especially the overzealous ones.
drootire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was talking to a homeless guy once and he told me he'd been fucked with too many times with people putting things in food just to mess with him that he doesn't trust food anymore. I know this isn't always the case but he made a valid argument on why he didn't want the half a sandwich I had leftover from lunch.
lildil37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. I gave a rotisserie chicken to a begger once. Looked in my rear view mirror as I drove away to see him throwing it in the trash... Man I would of ate the shit out of that chicken.
Nathan_hale53 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went to see the Red Hot Chili Peppers in Louisville a few days ago and saw a woman sitting outside of a white castle. She directly asked for food and I gladly go her some. I do understand though and I have done that before and gotten shit for it, but she directly asked for it.
seductivestain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know your city has a legit homeless problem (Eugene, Oregon) when the panhandlers are polite and very grateful when you give them food.
BRUTALLEEHONEST ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really tough to buy meth with hot dogs yo
SinkHoleDeMayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've given food a bunch of times. I've gone to Wendys and gotten a dollar burger, chili, and fries. Those guys were pretty damn excited.
Might just be the area you're at.
Zenabel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People are always thankful to me. I wonder why you keep getting shitheads? :,( that sucks
Snowghost11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even though most homeless people will probably want money for alcohol, it's understandable that they won't accept food from strangers, you wouldn't either. Unless it's packaged and unopened, you don't know what someone might have done with/put in the food.
infinitezero8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've gotten food for homeless before. I've seen them break down that someone actually cared and I've seen them wait till they thought they couldn't see me and threw it out and went back to their panhandling business.
Genuine people who are down on their life versus the assholes begging when they COULD be working.
I stopped giving money to homeless, so I keep a box of granola bars and case of water for any homeless I see. If they reject the food then 9/10 times they're not really homeless. I usually demand an explanation why they are rejecting the food, most of the time "I'm not hungry or thirsty, I just need money to buy essentials" then usually I follow up with "Oh my apologies, can I get those essentials for you?" .. "oh, no that's okay, uhh thanks, im good, i can get them myself if you give me money"
Tunerstyle63 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had the same issue in Indy, tried giving a panhandler a unopened box of granola bars. He tried telling me he had crohn's disease and couldn't eat them. Just shook my head and drove away.
AmandaPlease42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like that makes sense though. People's diseases, allergies, or intolerances aren't going to go away just because society may see them as too poor to refuse food. If they accepted them they might be able to try to give them to other homeless people, but they shouldn't eat things that will put them in a worse position than missing a meal.
Granola bars are still a good idea on your part though, since they are sealed and have a shelf life. Most people can eat them, and the ones who can't know they can't(nuts/wheat).
janiekh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They get angry either because they're not actually homeless or because they'd rather spend money on drugs. It's better than giving money.
Niadain ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They cant know if you tampered with it though.
bclagge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well... beggars can't be choosers and all...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure they can, I just won't give them anything if they do act choosy.
Niadain ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:48:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah... these beggars can. Because there's a choice to go hungry or risk that kid who bought you a mcd burger having snuck glass into it.
Joliet_Jake_Blues ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And they're mentally ill, which usually includes paranoia.
Bloodysneeze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is true for a huge portion of food people eat.
lululaplap ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:24:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not always the best thing to do, but often easiest. After speaking to many homeless people often they find they have loads of sandwiches but no money to get a hostel that night. It's hard but giving food isn't a simple solution.
LickMyBloodyScrotum ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 16:45:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give clean socks. We need them
Entorgalactic ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 17:14:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about scrotum bandaids?
OleSpecialZ ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:13:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clean socks hell, you probably need a band-aid.
timbo4815 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What with the bloody scrotum and all.
bclagge ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:29:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have clean socks but you have access to reddit?
AlphakirA ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:49:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP, but the library is free, socks are not.
ButterAndEggs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:07:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Phones services are much cheaper than youd think in certain places. $30 a month with Metro Pcs. I would be suprised to see a honeless person without a phone where i live
[deleted] ยท -21 points ยท Posted at 17:20:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:47:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1) libraries
2) phones are important for getting jobs
3) you can get web accessible phones for probably less than 50 bucks
4) there are free wifis everywhere
5) fuck you
tgifmondays ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:30:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck yourself.
flashpanther ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
self reliance? pffft who needs it
tgifmondays ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:49:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure I understand your comment. Are you saying every homeless person on the planet is a victim of their own ineptitude? There are no other factors at play, life is that simple?
Forgive me if that's not what you were implying.
flashpanther ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those that become homeless by their own choices don't garner any sympathy from me personally. Those thrust into such unfortunate circumstance by external factors are a different case but there's no easy way to differentiate them superficially at least
PigHaggerty ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:10:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How would you differentiate them?
flashpanther ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:12:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
talk to them? Give em a lick? idk
tgifmondays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough. Your solution is simple. Ignore them. Solved it for you. If I'm being honest, I usually do the same, but I'll tell you what I don't do. I don't cry on reddit because some homeless guy was mean to me when he turned down my leftovers.
And I don't tell people to "get the fuck off the median".
lambocinnialfredo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:00:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude you just went off on the wrong person lol
flashpanther ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:00:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
man i'd hate to be the guy he thought he was replying to. That's quite the verbal lashing
tomcatHoly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was me!
flashpanther ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:06:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
!
c9IceCream ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 16:29:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
some places you're encouraged not to give food. There's plenty of food banks/shelters that give out daily meals but to get in you have to be sober.
Flashthunder ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 16:48:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drug addicts still deserve food
[deleted] ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 17:11:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but people who are high or drunk at the time should not be let in. that just increases the chance of a homeless thunderdome breaking out
LukeNeverShaves ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:18:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they'd sell tickets and ppv they'd never need funding from elsewhere.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:46:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WHO RUN SHELTERTOWN?
Princepurple1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:51:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to the makers of bum fights who literally already did this.
chelseablues111 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then we just need to bust out the bum-zappers
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:09:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Other homeless people deserve a safe place to stay.
Flashthunder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get that. I was just saying that even if not in a shelter people should get to eat.
Princepurple1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:50:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Matter of opinion. I'm of the opinion that people who cant even be smart enough to stay clean (please save me the bleeding heart. I know its difficult, it does not matter. A lot of things adults need to do are difficult.) Then you dont deserve help. We all know the risks of drugs. We all know how to behave. Im tired of supporting the people who just dont care.
DontCallMeJay ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:35:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drug addiction isn't that simple.
Take opiods, for example. Individuals taking opioids for genuine pain can quickly develop addictions that lead to opioid abuse or even the use of heroin.
HBO has a pretty good documentary on specific cases of opioid prescriptions leading to addictions.
Princepurple1 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:38:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. I just got through explaining I think that's stupid.
Also didnt I say to save me the bleeding heart? We've all heard this opinion. A lot of things are hard, but we all know how to act. If you choose to ignore that knowledge and fuck yourself over then I'm not interested in helping out. There are too many people who have legitimately tragic lives who end up on the street I'd rather help before getting to Jack and Jill Junkie.
Is addiction awful? Yes. Is it a horror show? Absolutely. Is it my problem? No.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So many people think that if you find yourself in a shitty situation then you must have obviously done it to yourself and you are no longer worthy of common consideration. It's the "I work hard to make sure my life isn't shit, so why should I feel sorry for you when you did it to yourself." Empathy is an endangered species.
Ascurtis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just wait until after lunch to spark the globe?
beejmusic ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 17:08:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No one deserves food. We don't deserve to be denied food, but nothing is guaranteed except the pursuit of happiness. Not happiness itself.
randiesel ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:26:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone deserves food.
teh_booth_gawd ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:29:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And clean water. And healthcare.
flashpanther ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:40:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
rofl
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or, in other words, everybody deserves a slow and painful death by starvation if they fuck up badly enough?
beejmusic ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:22:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. No one deserves anything.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's either one or the other. You either deserve to die a slow, painful death, or you deserve food. Saying "they don't deserve either" makes no sense whatsoever.
beejmusic ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:25:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Act the way you want. The universe is just a giant random accident and nothing matters.
wtfduud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But everything is matter!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So how do you act? Do you give people food because you believe they shouldn't starve, or do you allow them to starve?
Macedwarf ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 17:07:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drunks deserve beer, especially if they've not yet worked out where they're sleeping tonight.
Fuck all you puritan motherfuckers who think those who have it hardest need to be the most virtuous, like you need someone to show you how to do it.
McDrMuffinMan ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:10:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean if you're relying on someone else's purse strings, they have the right to attach conditions.
Macedwarf ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 17:18:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, like not give anything, it's begging they're not working at being poor and virtuous so you can Mother Teresa them.
sphigel ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:22:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps YOU should start a charity with no strings attached instead of sitting on your ass criticizing others.
flashpanther ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:42:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe if the only thing you buy with the little money you have is booze then you deserve to be homeless
Macedwarf ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 17:45:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck buying a home with $50 or good luck staying alive on the streets with a $10,000 deposit, don't be naive.
flashpanther ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:48:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If only there were something you could do with money that you don't spend on essentials.
Macedwarf ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, stick it in that bank that won't talk to you until you've got an address?
Don't lecture me on how to be a virtuous poor person, go out and be one all by yourself and show everyone your great inner strength and wisdom. While maintaining a healthy diet, good hygiene, no drugs (that means coffee too you filthy addict), and no frivolous spending.
Go show all those hobos why they american dream just somehow isn't quite working for them. Just don't forget to let go of mommy's hand first.
flashpanther ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gee willickers mister
hang3xc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:26:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In some places you get ARRESTED for giving out food. Fact.
tuwabe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:10:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here in Houston it's illegal to feed them.
Nonyabiness ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 16:51:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm currently homeless. In my city homeless people don't go hungry. In fact, we put on about 20 pounds.
There are places that provide food, there's a Restaurant that gives you two free slices of pizza if you ask.
You can get a day pass to ride the bus for less than $5. I say if anything, I'd be able to accomplish a lot more in a day if I didn't have to walk everywhere with a giant backpack.
Spend like $20, get a bunch of day passes and just hand those out.
The shelter here requires you to blow zeroes in order to stay the night.
[deleted] ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 17:46:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
b...but what happened? https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/68swml/relatively_nonawkward_people_whats_the_number_one/dh2epcn/?context=3
lohith_is_a_fag ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:34:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, getting called out for lying about being homeless in a thread about calling someone out for lying to be homeless. At least the one in the video gets money. What do these guys get?
Good on you for being a skeptic :)
IAmNotNathaniel ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:56:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who is Zeroes?
liontamarin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:16:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No alcohol in your system.
EDIT: I don't understand how answering someone's question is a downvote.
Iaintlurkinnomo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:06:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you'd quit blowing zeroes and blew rich people instead you'd probably make better money and then maybe you could stay somewhere other then a shelter
achessinsolvent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:28:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry bro
Nonyabiness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just gotta roll with the punches.
flashpanther ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:43:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
homeless with an internet connection lol
AlphakirA ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:51:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you think it's 1995?
flashpanther ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do I?
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:49:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some shelters have computer access, as do libraries.
Gelidaer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:59:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's free wifi all over the place where I live
Imadynamo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:01:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You act like someone who is recently homeless and is probably trying to better their situation shouldn't have that device. This is the stigma that gets attached to people for no reason. We should be helping the homeless become homeowners. A phone can hold a resume, send email, word process, browse for jobs , etc... Fuck you.
flashpanther ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:05:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
relax kemosabe. you can get a smartphone and data for free through SNAP. It's just an amusing reality that everyone is connected even when they have practically nothing
Imadynamo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Word, carry on then. I just get mad at people being dicks to the less fortunate. I've been poor, it sucks.
LyKam_Yung ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EE'RY BODY GOT THAT OBAMAPHONE
raspberry_man ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you're genuinely stupid
flashpanther ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
promise?
raspberry_man ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i do. i promise
flashpanther ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
aww geez
bretttwarwick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Last time I went to the Grand Canyon there were signs all over saying not to feed the wild animals. We didn't and my daughter almost got attacked by a squirrel because she wouldn't share her chips with it.
tgifmondays ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:24:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are things people need other than food, and there a many organizations that exist to get food to homeless people already.
I'm not saying don't offer people food, just don't flip out and cry foul when someone turns it down (Which happens all the time here on reddit).
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:55:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A little difficult to buy clean clothes with a sandwich
therealdanhill ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:15:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get food anywhere though. How many adults die of hunger in the US? It doesn't make sense to ask for food. Five people drive up and give you burgers, there's only so much you need to eat before the food is no good because you don't have a fridge. You gonna give them canned goods then? Okay, they will just carry that around with all their other stuff, hope they have a way to cook it.
I'm not saying money is the best thing to give them, but it beats food
Race_Bannon_Prime ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:46:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I give bottles of water.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:22:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did this at a red light once and some girl who was with him followed my car to the parking lot I pulled into (about a quarter mile away), knocked on my window while I was sitting in my parked car, and got aggressive when I declined to give her cash.
AandJweddingthrow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:19:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Christ
undercooked_lasagna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How much strychnine do you add?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:27:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give a man a fish and he'll eat a day, teach him how to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime.
Granted, they'll often just waste money on drugs and booz and learn nothing. But giving them food does nothing more then perpetuate their situation either.
If you want to help these people, loose your apathy for the homeless on the community and political stage.
If you see how many veterans end up homeless because of untreated mental conditions they developed while serving, it just piles on top of how bad they are treated once they get home and even more so when they leave the army or are ejected from it because they are no longer fit for duty due to untreated PTSD and other traumas.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:54:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...or whatever you want, or nothing at all? I don't understand the "fight against fake homeless." If you want to look dirty, and act like a bum for a living, that's your choice. It's not like these people have salaries, healthcare, vacations, and benefits. They're fucking bums. If you don't want to give them anything, don't.
mrbrannon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:07:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know this is a pretty common suggestion and as someone who spent about a year homeless when I was younger, it IS much appreciated but after a certain point you have had as much food as you can literally stomach. Not to mention all the places that feed the homeless as well. So yes, if you want to give food, do so! It helps more than you know and sometimes people will give you such incredible food that you wouldn't choose to purchase yourself (for cost or other reasons) and it's great. However sometimes, it's the other necessities like finding a place to sleep and shower for the night, transportation, etc. that keep people out there longer. So don't be offended if they politely turn down your food. It's possible that their entire backpack is full of food or there is an entire grocery bag of food just behind that median. I often times found myself bringing back and giving away much of the food at the shelter that I simply couldn't finish and had no way to store. Many of the older homeless guys just don't have the energy to stand out there panhandling. An older gentleman named Paul who showed me the ropes taught me to accept everything graciously even if we can't use it because those people are trying to help and you don't want to offend them. Also, there is almost always someone around that could use it that isn't out their panhandling for whatever reason.
And yes, sometimes people use money for drugs or alcohol too. But I always saw it like this: If you are giving money to someone, you are giving it to them. There aren't any strings attached. You are doing it because you want to help. Choosing to not give money is fine but once you do, you have to be okay with that person using it as they see giving them the greatest benefit. Even if that is something that you don't agree with, like in the case that the person is sick with an addiction. This was actually more wisdom from same homeless man named Paul that I mentioned above. I respected him incredibly and we spent countless hours after the sun went down just talking philosophy, science, his time in in the military, etc. He was a vet that had been out there homeless about ten years when I was there and we had this discussion about the morality of people using panhandling to support their heroin addiction. In the end, we both agreed.
timmyisinthewell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:17:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you want to make the effort, grocery store gift cards.
TomatoWarrior ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or donate to charities/shelters. Your money goes further and it's less arbitrary than giving to people you happen upon.
RsonW ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:11:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a piece of above that sounds good on the surface, but is actuallyโbad.
Food is readily available. Food stamps, soup kitchens, food banks, etc.
You can't buy socks with food. You can't buy a razor with food. You can't buy a motel room with food.
brettf123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:18:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See this seems fine until you realize that the homeless are human beings and sometimes also need things like hygiene products and quarters for laundry
poochyenarulez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:16:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
better; donate to local shelters and food kitchens. If there people need help, they have places to go.
Xadrian89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:43:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once read on reddit that socks were simple things that homeless people valued highly. So I went to Costco and bought a large thing of socks. Wrapped them up in two pair combos and handed them out during the holidays. People like that were overjoyed to get an actual present, especially one that can fulfill so many needs in their situation.
timeforknowledge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They have more food than they can eat, I have seen homeless people turn away food more times than they accepted it (London).
They do need money though, the places they stay at night can cost money and they may need money for non food items (clothes, hygiene products etc)
People just need to make judgement calls or speak to them (they don't bite)
Edit: this is coming from the UK
SundayExperiment ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I said a dollar bitch!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's this homeless guy that lives behind the a retail chain-store that I pass by on occasion. He just sits there with a sign that says homelessness can happen to anyone.
I asked him the one day what he could use. He said, a coffee and some gloves would be great. Got the guy some coffee & doughnuts, he seemed so happy. I hope he's not conning me
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they usually aren't upset if you ask first. Would you rather be asked of you wanted a cheeseburger or just have one thrust into your hands
mkhpsyco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why they go to cars. Don't really have time to park, and take you into a restaurant.
I was in Germany, and a friend of mine was approached by a woman holding a sign. He took her to a restaurant, and bought some food and said "take this to your kids so they can eat." The person at the window said "you do know you can't return this, right?" yeah, we did, as we walked away, she was arguing with the person at the window trying to return the food item.
I had friends go into a store with a woman to buy supplies for her baby and kids, ended up spending $40ish euro, and walk away feeling like they helped. They didn't think that her asking for a receipt because "police might not believe she bought it herself" was a shady thing. Yeah, she returned all of that stuff.
This is why having a public homeless service is better. It's a difficult thing to solve, but if you have decent homeless shelters or help in your area, that's the best thing to donate to.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They actually don't want food and there is a legitimate reason why. You have to remember, in this crazy world that we live in, some people are absolute pieces of shit. They will intentionally sabatoge the food that they are giving to the homeless. Putting gross or dangerous stuff in it. Think of the "it's just a prank bro" kinda people. That's why they often refuse food. Plus, you only need to eat a couple times a day. Food isn't going to buy them clothing, shelter, or hygiene products.
b3ar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give to a charitable organization.
cheddarben ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:54:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as a side note, I have seen a few posts on Reddit from people talking about begging and homelessness. Apparently, it is not unheard of for people to put shit like glass and razors into food they give away.
I don't know if there is any truth to that or not, but it definitely changes how I think about people who do not accept random sandwiches.
bakdom146 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:16:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that sounds about as common as the epidemic of razor blades inside of Halloween candy, as in it seems like a horseshit story that has never happened that's accepted as truth for some reason. I'm not homeless though, so maybe I just don't hear the real truth. Anyways, starving is going to hurt you a lot more than a 0.00000000000000001% chance that someone is trying to poison your food. If I wanted to kill a homeless panhandler I'd just buy them enough heroin to OD on.
All that aside, you'll do the most good if you donate to shelters and food banks. True poor/homeless people will be able to make use of them and you won't just be funding a drug habit or some douchebag yuppie who thinks it's easier to scam people than work for a living.
Also, just because a panhandler has a car doesn't mean they're not homeless, living out of a car is a deeply unpleasant lifestyle that next to no one would choose for themselves.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Google search: "homeless poisoned" and you see that there are many people poisoning the homeless. It's a far greater risk than what you perceive it to be.
Don't use your feelings in place of facts.
cheddarben ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yup.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
cheddarben ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:16:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh... don't get me wrong... I am sure there is plenty of shenanigans. That being said, what percentage of "glass shards or poison in food" would it take for you to not accept leftover sammies?
awesome717413 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I usually have a box of granola bars in my car. I just give a handful to panhandlers.
welestgw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
35 Double Bacon Cheeseburgers.
Dangernj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a bag of hotel toiletries and sample feminine hygiene products in my car. I've never been met with anything but gratitude.
anosmiasucks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not always wanted or accepted. My wife and I ran into someone about 10 years ago who asked us for money because she was hungry. This was in a large parking lot surrounded by numerous shops, a grocery store and a deli. We told her we'd go into the grocery store to buy her food and she refused because she "didn't have any way to carry it around". By the time we told her we'd buy her a meal in the deli she was walking off. That said, I still give money in occasion and shit like this makes me feel like I shouldn't even bother anymore.
ylsf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people will throw out the food when you leave because then others won't donate money to them if they see that they have food already. (those that aren't really "hungry" but just want money for other stuff). I donate to support agencies only and not to people asking for it on the street but I know that isn't perfect either.
TheRemonst3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife keeps zip lock bags of cereal in her car for when she's driving through Paterson NJ. The homeless go car to car at the stop lights.
nespid0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to give the same guy whatever spare change I had 3 4 times a week at this one intersection. After a short while, he would recognize my car and walk over through traffic to me, smile, I'd put some change in his cup and he'd say, "thank you, God bless."
One day, after a year or so, I introduced myself, shook his hand, and he introduced himself as Roy. I told him he's gotta start earning the money and I expect him to have a joke for me next time.
I never saw Roy there again.
reality_aholes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, socks. It's one of the few things homeless people need and are in short supply of. If you wanna be the homeless MVP take a few toiletries such as deodorant, toothbrush, toothpaste, hand sanitizer, and roll it up into one or two pair of socks.
Slylock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One time I saw a homeless guy with a sign that said "hungry" and nothing else. Usually I go for these. I stopped at a gas station and bought a big ass sandwich and a huge bottle of water. I brought it to him and he said "does it have cheese on it?"
I said "dude, its food just pick the cheese off." He did.
Fast forward a few months and the same dude has the same sign. I bought him another sandwich. I give him the sandwich and he says "I don't want the cheese". I said "this is the second time I've done this for you, quit complaining about the cheese!"
He said "I'm lactose intolerant, I don't want to shit my pants here."
Edit: I felt like a dick.
zclake88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from Richmond. My mom's friend has offered this lady food. This chick told her to fuck off. She just wants money for drugs.
harleyfax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I did once. A lady was panhandling outside of Target on Mother's Day with a sign saying she couldn't feed her kids. So I went in, bought some ready-quick food, chips, and the like and brought them out to her. I also threw in a mother's day card and a flower just for the sake of it.
mojomako ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. I gave a homeless man some leftover hotdogs and fries near a trainsration. The train station was elevated so I saw the him share the food with another homeless guy.
likeicarrotall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Usually they can come by food, other items not so much. Socks and wet wipes seem to be pretty desirable non money/food items.
utentenome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many of them won't accept food, mostly for security reasons. I heard that it happened several times that people gave homeless people sandwiches with needles or a crap in them, as a sort of cynic and reckless prank.
DanGarion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is why I keep a box of MREs.
Project_Zombie_Panda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I beg to differ I remember specifically trading food for the glorious quarter or more that I had pack in my lunch for school. Or trading food for food but hey it all works.
SaberDart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't giving food just free up whatever cash they were given for things other than food?
yojay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aw, $20?
skunkwrxs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most are thankful, some are not.
Clinty76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Dad give's panhandlers McDonald's gift cards.
southdakotasomeone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We did exactly this, a huge group of us had just had dinner at a pizza place, homeless guy was begging us for money for food as we were getting on our bus. We gave him basically 2 pizzas, he threw them on the ground, and stomped on them. He didn't want food. Cussed us out for not giving him money
queenkallieenn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mum gives cash to homeless people. She buys an extra sandwich at lunch, if any are near a restaurant she's at she'll ask the waiter to send them a plate, she donates online to reputable charities, but she always gives cash to people too. Says it's not her choice what they spend it on, and as someone formerly very poor, she says having cash and being able to buy what you want is liberating. She figures if they've no dignity and are lying about being homeless, the five dollars or whatever is worth the risk in case it's someone who is actually down in life. Mental health issues run in the family too so it's definitely a different perspective. I'm not sure how I feel about it, but you can't always tell who is and isn't legit. Sometimes a warm smile and genuine concern go a long way, too.
bear_knuckle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My high school baseball team once gave a homeless dude in Florida a box full of subs and chips we weren't going to eat. Perfectly good food, he just left that shit out in the sun to get all nasty.
Cash is king
wtfduud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most people don't carry food around with them, but most people have cash.
benoitrio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or give money, or whatever else you want
people can do what they want with what you give
Joliet_Jake_Blues ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:24:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't give them anything, they go away.
slykrysis ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:43:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, give them nothing. You're only reinforcing behavior to stay in the position they are in.
GrowlmonDrgnbutt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do NOT. They can sue you if they are allergic, claim the food was poisoned, etc.
raspberry_man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh, fuck off
Infini-Bus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:10:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I give them cigarettes.
wtfduud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really the thing they need the most when they're homeless.
saxophonefartmaster ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:40:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or just give them nothing so they stop panhandling.
EquinsuOchaACE ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:44:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once gave the other half of my subway sandwich to a homeless woman, she looked at it and threw it in to the bushes right in front of me! I was so pissed, I actually wanted that sandwich.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:50:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except they don't want the food and throw it away. Seen it twice.
lukin187250 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:54:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I pay people in gum.
qovneob ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:54:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck that, dont give them shit.
sotomoto ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:58:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very true. I used to work in downtown Boston and I have seen it all. I've seen beggars ask for money while people waited in line to get food and when the person offers to buy food installs the homeless guy just says forget it and walks away. I've also seen a lady give a homeless guy an orange and as she walked away he threw it at her. I've also seen a homeless guy begging for money and all around him were hundreds of pennies that he would throw down and leave there because he didn't want pennies. I've seen shit. I haven't given a penny to a homeless person after seeing this sort of shit all day everyday.
Dan000 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:58:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tried to give a Snickers to a guy panhandling once... He tells me, "No thanks, I'm watching my sugar intake."
SkibumStu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:02:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bought a bag of pretzels for a lady outside of a Walgreens once and when I offered them to her as I left she says, "oh I don't like pretzels" and refused to take them...
irisuniverse ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:03:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I keep lara bars around for this. I'm happy to give food to anyone really.
irisuniverse ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:03:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I keep lara bars around for this. I'm happy to give food to anyone really.
housebird350 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:10:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are homeless people supposed to buy a home with food?
sleepingdeep ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:11:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yep, we always keep granola bars and protein bars in our glove box. that way we're not contributing to any drug/alcohol problems, and we're also not helping the fakers. we want to help the homeless, but people like this woman drive me nuts.
rolli_83 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:18:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with you and do just that. One time, I work in construction, I tried to give a guy my business card and said I'd give him a job tomorrow (site was right where he was panhandling and I actually needed labour) the guy jumped back like I had pulled out a gun or something.
bronkula ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been burned too many times by dudes trying to sell back the food. Give them food and watch them eat it. If you don't have the time to listen to one of their stories while they eat your gift, your gift is halfassed and is not helping.
raspberry_man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hahaha you've been "burned" by giving a sandwich to a homeless person? really?
bronkula ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I spent my charity on someone that didn't want it or appreciate it. I got burned.
raspberry_man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i can't imagine a less self-aware reaction than "i gave food to someone in need who tried to sell it for money. i am the victim here"
but i'll pray for you
bronkula ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:22:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't imagine a less useful task than praying for someone, but not everyone who begs is homeless, and not everyone understands what they need vs what they want.
raspberry_man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i can't imagine a less useful trait than having no ability to detect sarcasm
so?
and you're the arbiter of what people need?
bronkula ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:38:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. Got it. Thought we were having a discussion. Enjoy your day, fren.
PmMeYourAttributes ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard some do beg for food and then they throw most of it away. Some are just not satisfied with any food but only keep the tasty food.
lululaplap ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:34:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's often more complicated than that. After talking to many homeless people, it seems they get loads of ยฃ2 sandwiches but no change for a hostel which you can understand is frustrating. It's a complex problem to solve but money or sandwiches alone can't solve it.
PmMeYourAttributes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. That could be a legit reason for this to happen. And if the homeless person refuses the sandwich he will look picky in the givers eyes anyway.
whatthewhatk ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did this once. Saw a homeless guy on my way to grocery store. Picked up bread, peanut butter, and jelly for him. He threw the bag at my car and damaged it. They don't want food, they want money for booze.
ANAL_FUSION ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny (maybe sad) story, my brother went to a McDonald's a few years back to see a homeless person begging out front. He asked my brother for some cash, and my brother said that he got him on his way out.
My brother proceeds to buy the guy a large soda, 3 big macs and 2 large fries and hands it to him on his way out. The homeless man threw it all on the floor saying that he didn't want food, he wanted money.
Needless to say, he's never given to a panhandler (without a license) again, which is unfortunate.
He could go on with multiple stories that have turned out with similar levels of ingratitude, but that one sticks out.
There's always one sour grape to spoil the rest
raspberry_man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or, more likely, your brother never gave a shit to begin with
ANAL_FUSION ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:01:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, he bought 15 bucks of food for the guy knowing it would be thrown on the ground because he didn't give a shit. Makes sense to me
raspberry_man ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:03:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or he did it to make himself feel better and could give less of a shit about the actual plight of people in need
pretty easy conclusion to come to if that was his reaction to one likely mentally ill person being rude to him
ANAL_FUSION ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:09:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You cracked the case arm chair psychologist! You now know my brother better than I do! You also know the area I'm from better than I do, and have the means to provide every beggar with money! Good for you.
Hope you stay this cynical for the rest of your life
raspberry_man ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:16:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gonna assume the "cynical" one is the person who thinks "i wasn't shown proper gratitude for my act of charity, therefore i'll never perform one again"
but there are worse words than cynical you might use
freeze123901 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandpa said he tried to give a homeless man a bag of potatoes and he refused them solely because "he doesn't like potatoes" if your really homesless you don't care if you don't like something, it'll help you survive
sicurri ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the best way to tell if the panhandler is really in need, I gave food to a homeless guy, looked desperate. He threw the food on the ground and spat in my face demanding cash.
Screw him!
atomofconsumption ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:22:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People who are suffering from drug addiction don't need your leftover food. Just don't engage them if you have some moral superiority complex.
[deleted] ยท 172 points ยท Posted at 18:38:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who's literally been unemployed, homeless, penniless, and living out of a tent in the woods for close to a year, people like this are a real insult to me because I never once panhandled or begged for change or anything close to it.
pregnantbaby ยท 546 points ยท Posted at 17:08:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
he caught a fish, but i don't think he knew what to do with it
[deleted] ยท 356 points ยท Posted at 17:46:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
drakoslayr ยท 118 points ยท Posted at 18:26:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the plan was to get her to drive away and she just didn't because her shame sense is either stunned in the moment or broken entirely.
Custodious ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:35:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok we have all we need she cant be dumb enough to stay can she?
Zenguppy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:25:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
agreed they could have handled themselves better, being an ass while filming an ass just gets you two asses.
JayCroghan ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:48:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ya they could have recorded her sign and stuff while she was begging and her actually getting in the car or a whole host of other things instead of shouting about how viral she's gonna be.
drummerjmp ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 18:34:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Crazy lady: "You're barking up the wrong tree, I'm telling ya"
Man behind camera: "I bark wherever I want to bark!"
Crazy lady: "No, you don't bark around me!!"
Beautiful.
mwilkez ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 17:20:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work as a social worker in a skilled nursing facility, and have several residents who panhandle for money on a daily basis despite having Medicare, Medicaid, Disability Income, a roof over their heads, television, and 3 square meals a day with snacks in between. I once pointed out to one of my residents that her sign was misleading because it said she was homeless, and she responded with, "It works better this way." I've even seen some of my residents claim to be disabled vets when they have no military background, but lost their legs from drinking too much and passing out in the snow. Sorry folks, giving money out to panhandlers is just not a good idea.
vinegarfingers ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 17:06:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol the drive thru woman's face at 1:31
"Oh you did what?"
needward ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 18:00:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see this woman every day! Glad to see she sold her xterra and upgraded. I might take her place.
groorgwrx ยท 154 points ยท Posted at 18:22:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: McDonalds drive thrus double as life coach stations.
somedude456 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:35:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll take a large fry and the meaning of life please.
MEGGO0922 ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 18:32:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This will probably get buried anyways but there's so many stories of shitty homeless people, I wanted to share a nice/funny one! Just yesterday I'm out shopping with my 4 year old daughter and we're about to grab some lunch and head home. I'm driving through a shopping mall parking lot and there's a young dude, maybe 25ish and his dog sitting on the sidewalk. Obviously dirty and carrying a large backpack but he had a little cardboard sign that said "homeless and hungry". I glance at it and feel a little bad but then he flips the sign as I'm driving by and it says "smile life is beautiful" and it literally made me smile. So I go through the drive thru and grab him a cheeseburger/fries and a drink and me and my daughter park and walk up to him and give him the lunch. He was SO HAPPY. He talked to my daughter for a minute and told her his dogs name was Boo and that it was originally after Boosie but his dog was way too sweet and didn't live up to the name so he decided to say it's name was Boo from Monsters Inc instead ๐ I brought 5 bucks to give him too for dog food but saw that his dog had plenty of food and water which made me happy that his dog was a priority for him so I gave him the 5 bucks anyways. I usually don't give money out like that but this guy just seemed like he needed some help and I'm glad I stopped!
SevenMason ยท 1626 points ยท Posted at 16:03:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope this takes off. It is a disgusting practice.
Edit: Here was an experience of mine in Richmond that I posted about some time ago:
Several years back, I had a couple of weeks vacation I had to take, but my wife had to work. I realized that after a decade of living in the city, I had never really explored it. So for two weeks I just rode around on my bike checking things out.
Not being a daily rider, I had to rest a lot, and had stopped at Leigh and Belvidere in the shade trees. I watched the panhandlers, curious as to how much they made, and was there for about a half hour. I was watching a girl, and this guy rolls up on a bike. Sandy brown hair, mustache, mid-40's talks to the girl, gave her a McDonald's bag of food (Saw her eat something out of it) they swapped places, and she rode off.
I ride off, cruised some more and later that afternoon, I see the same girl at 95 & Boulevard. Huh.
So as I continued riding the city, I started recognizing more and more faces. Shot the breeze with them at stoplights. This one guy was pretty funny, so when I saw him, we would chat for a while, and eventually I started sharing food and whatnot with him.
Long story short, we become friendly enough that I asked how much he was pulling in, where he lived, best places to panhandle, things of that nature, and after I shared a joint with him once, he started opening up. It turned out that the Sandy-haired guy was the leader. He had a van, (That I'm pretty sure I saw- Older white van that had a bike rack on the top, and on the rear) brought everyone to a central area (My guess is that it moved around to avoid detection, on the day of the conversation it was at the porn store on Boulevard that is now a taco shop), and they walked/rode off to their assigned area. After morning traffic was over, they took a break and switched places so folks going to lunch would see a new face. Same thing in the afternoon. I was impressed with the organization of it all. And it wasn't like these were weird people- We had great conversations, and from the way he described it to me, they all lived in various places, indicating that they had apartments/homes. Once while I was talking with him, the sandy-haired guy showed up, they walked over to a quiet spot, talked for a minute, he gave the guy a bag of food, and left.
I also had a hunch that there was some not-insignificant marijuana business going on. There were several small things that pointed to this, and it made me wonder how many of the people giving money and being told "God bless" are palming a bag. It seemed at the time that the guy I befriended somehow knew which car to walk toward, and I notice it still with other handlers. Yeah, sometimes you see a hand stick out with a couple of bucks, but there are a lot of times you will see the panhandler start in that direction before their window is down. They handler will also lean in a bit more, rather than taking the money at arm's length.
It is a scam, no doubt. Bear in mind that these events were a very minor part of my two weeks- I was not out to bust up a panhandling ring, so I didn't gather evidence or anything to give the police. I don't see what they could do about it anyway. Nothing prevents me from writing a sign and standing on a corner this afternoon.
It is funny- I don't live in the city anymore, but have had to go there several times over the past month, and have seen the sandy-haired guy twice (It is a bit more gray now) He still has a mustache, wears a ball cap, and rides a red bicycle. Once he was riding down Belvidere toward Leigh, and the second he was at Lee's buying a ton of chicken. I nearly asked him how business was going, but ultimately decided against it.
Wow, this went a lot longer than I thought. On a side note, if you or anyone reading has the chance- Please grab a bike, and ride around the city. There is a LOT of cool stuff that you miss when driving. I was quite out of shape at the time, and didn't find it taxing at all.
TL;DR: Many (If not all) of the panhandlers you see in the usual spots are a scam. Read it all if you want more evidence.
lapekes ยท 821 points ยท Posted at 16:30:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped giving to the homeless when one day I didn't have any spare change, but I did have a sandwich that was untouched that I just purchased which I was taking back to the office to enjoy.
I offered the guy the sandwich, he looks me dead in the eye, and asks "WTF am I going to do with that???"
I don't know... fucking eat it?
nobodynose ยท 371 points ยท Posted at 16:44:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people are just hungry. I happily give them what food I have or buy them food.
I don't give people money usually unless it's a totally insignificant amount (like literally whatever coin change I have in my pocket). Some people indeed only just want something to eat. But I've run into a few other people:
BSB8728 ยท 203 points ยท Posted at 16:50:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I had a dime for every time my husband has fallen for the "out of gas, no money" story, I'd be a millionaire. My sons and I have to take his arm and steer him away whenever we see one of those people approaching him.
machiavelly ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 17:11:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got ripped off for $120 from a guy with that story. I had never been scammed before, and I had no skepticism at all. Now I'm a lot more cynical. That experience still makes me angry
catfromjacksonville ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 17:46:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
had a similar encounter, and i helped them out with 120 euro. of course it was a scam. it still makes me angry when i think back, not because of the money, because luckily i'm in a position that such amounts of money are not a problem, but more because i really wanted to help someone and just got fooled. and i particularly don't like that this incident changed me, i never will be able to trust a stranger which asks me for a favour again. on the other hand, maybe it was good to learn this lesson, the world is very often not a nice or fair place, and we should be careful who we trust.
machiavelly ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:59:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's exactly how I feel. $120 is still a lot for me, but I'm more angry that I was taken advantage of like that
arcrad ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:00:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean in the end you DID end up helping someone out... alot. So there's that at least.
Mozambique_Drill ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:49:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$120? Was he "filling up" his semi truck?
wronglyzorro ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:29:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he rob you or did you willing give him 120 bucks for gas?
machiavelly ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:58:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I willingly gave him 120. He brought me to the atm and I took out the cash for him. It was sort of like a "deer in the headlights" experience for me.
IAmNotNathaniel ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:02:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This kinda happened to me. But instead of giving it to a guy for gas, I gave it to a stripper for lap dances.
I mean, I guess I did get some lap dances out of the deal. But left to my own devices, I doubt I would have gotten that many of them.
machiavelly ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:03:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh that's rough. At least you did get some sort of service from your payment though haha.
wronglyzorro ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:59:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sucks. Relatively cheap learning experience though. Some people lose 10's of thousands.
machiavelly ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:01:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. I look at it now as paying a $120 fee for an invaluable lesson, so that's some comfort. It's good to know that other people have been in that situation too
xenaloom ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:27:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
agreed. a great lesson to learn. along the same lines, a situation like that is good to learn the power of saying "no"
Gl0riousGr0uch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i'm a little curious as to how you found out you got scammed...
machiavelly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:21:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He gave me contact info so that he could pay me back, and when I looked up his info it was all fake.
JVonDron ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:25:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They usually claim they lost their wallet or something and promise to repay you. They'll take down your address or phone number, saying they'll mail it back and a whole lot more as soon as they get home for getting them out of a jam. It doesn't hit you that it's a scam until days later when you never hear from them again - or worse, you see them on the street a few weeks later pulling the same shit to someone else.
OniTan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:15:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why? Why not like $10? What gas tank even holds $120?!
machiavelly ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:22:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He said he also needed food and stuff for his wife and kid, both of whom he brought me to meet at his car. I was also just not thinking straight. Hindsight is 20/20, as they say
JVonDron ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:18:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got ripped $40, and at a time when it really hurt. Every decent person gets hit eventually, mine was from a decently dressed black man with a massive sob story - 11pm, lost his wallet, needed train ticket money back home, elderly mom taking care of his kids, etc. Still pisses me off that I was so green to fall for it.
heavy_metal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
he taught you a valuable life lesson for cheap. be thankful.
machiavelly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:24:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am definitely thankful, but I still can't help getting mad at myself for falling for it. Live and learn I guess
abcdefghi1234567 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow that's stupid.
ariehh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:50:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was on vacation near the Mont Blanc in France and some Bulgarian man walked up to me if I had some money for him because his car was low on fuel and he did not have the right currency. We were in the mountains, going downhill. I asked him if he could not just roll downhill, knowing that there was a fuel station there. (That fuel station accepted a lot of currencies since it was near a few borders.) But no that wasn't possible because "his car was too heavy to roll on nearly flat surfaces". So I offered to tow him (I always go on vacation prepared and have that sort of stuff with me) but he got angry and scolded at me in his home language and then sped off, screeching tires UPHILL.
juskajo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:29:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But because your husband presumably hands over a lot more than $0.10 every time he falls for that story, you guys would still be in the red.
TheMysteriousFizzyJ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:46:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I gave a young girl some gas. I questioned her a bit about it... actually, just long enough for her boyfriend to come out with some coke. I was too dumb to ask for a couple of cans.
AFarewellToArms ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:12:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see those scammers a lot. One time I was at a gas station and someone came up to me with the same old story. I told them to grab their gas can and I will fill it up. Well... they actually had a gas can and brought it to me to fill up after I filled my car. So I guess there's at least one person who told the truth. That or there is some type of black market using gas as currency.
podocks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:17:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you had that dime, you'd be the panhandler in this situation!
TheMysteriousFizzyJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I gave a young girl some gas. I questioned her a bit about it... actually, just long enough for her boyfriend to come out with some coke. I was too dumb to ask for a couple of cans.
ghostdate ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 16:54:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a crack sandwich no doubt.
skip_tracer ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 16:54:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gas can scam's an oldie, I see it in Philadelphia all the time.
popefatherman ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:12:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
same thing happened to me. except i drove her to a gas station and she got gas.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:23:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that'll show her!
kingrichard336 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:26:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Ohio and Indiana I've frequently had people pull up in a relatively new car with a sob story about how they went the wrong way for hundreds of miles and are out of gas and then ask if you can play to fill up their car a bit.
stokelydokely ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:40:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about the asshole who jumped up from a stoop as I walked by and exclaimed that his daughter was inside his apartment having an asthma attack and that he needed $10 so he could run to the pharmacy for an inhaler.
I was extremely skeptical, and told him as much. I also told him that I really hoped he was telling the truth, and that he would pay the kind deed forward in the future.
A couple weeks later, I was walking down the same sidewalk with my wife, and the same guy jumps up from the same stoop and launches into the same story about his asthmatic daughter. I flipped out and bellowed about what a pathetic piece of shit he was, which I'm sure led to no self-reflection at all on his part.
joyfall ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:39:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The damn gift cards!
My cousin is a drug addict and very manipulative. She's come running to my mom and all of my aunts at some point or another begging for money. She's done this for years, who knows how many people she's swindled. It's always a sob story. Mom caught on when my cousin claimed twice in two months that she didn't have enough money to pay her annual drivers car renewal fees.
One day she shows up at my parents house crying, saying she doesn't have enough money for food for her kids. My mom brings her straight to the supermarket and fills the cart with milk, eggs, bread, fruit, and other necessities and heads to the checkout. My cousin freaks out at this point and breaks down crying at the checkout, begging my mom to also buy some prepaid credit cards. My mom is a kind woman but snapped at this point, telling her she was on a fixed budget but was paying about $100 for groceries for her niece who should be thankful.
My cousin stopped visiting after that. She's also since gone to rehab and gotten custody of her three kids back.
The_Cat_Is_Maybe ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:14:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Last time I gave money I was at a gas station and a lady was distraught by her car. She didn't have money for gas. I knew she was lying but figured what the hell and gave her a $10 bill I had. Go to use the card in the pump and it isn't working so I have to go inside. There she is buying cigarettes. She looked at me and gets flustered and says "I uhhh, do you, do you want ... a candy bar?".
I wasn't trying to catch you lying miss, frankly I don't care, if that makes you feel bad then you probably deserve that feeling.
jcleary555 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:42:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why some people are such assholes. I have stood with a sign before but never verbally begged. Usually my intent was to get money for a hotel room so I could shower and actually get a good night's rest. At the same time though I surely wouldn't turn down any kind of help, food, tampons, prayers, water, job leads...really anything. I thought it was funny a couple times I had people like ask me if I was ok with taking change and be apologetic that that's all they had...like change helps so why wouldn't I take it? The worst though is creepy dudes who try to convince me to get in their car or want me to meet them in an alley to "make some more money," no thank you.
Custodious ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:39:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn escalator dude was a total cunt, fuck that guy.
adrr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:43:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They'll scam you if you buy them food as well. Common scam here is ask a person to buy you food from a grocery store then they return it and take the cash. Stop giving them anything and give to the charities who specialize in helping people in need.
TheMysteriousFizzyJ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:44:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a guy yell at me to take my change back since it was an insignificant amount. "A quarter?! I can't even buy a coffee with that!" So I took my change back and walked off. I see him regularly, but I'll be damned if I ever offer him any change.
foofdawg ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:32:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a guy walk up to me in a grocery store parking lot, where there's also a gas station on the front corner of the lot.
He gestures to a car parked to the side of the gas station, and tells me he is from out of town, and someone stole his wallet, and he just needs enough money to get gas to get back home.
I look back at his car, and there's a big guy getting into it, and I say to the panhandler "Looks like your problems are about to get worse. Someone is stealing your car."
He looked at me dumbfounded for a moment, so I pointed to the car he had pointed at, and he looks over just as the car is driving off. He looked back at me, gave me a sheepish look, and just walked off.
armored-dinnerjacket ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:20:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll take 5 quinoa and 7 arugula and I'll be paying by gift cards
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people fuck with food before they give it to the homeless. That's why a lot of them won't take food unless they see you buy it and bring it right to them. Not for nothing but who's gonna investigate a homeless guy getting poisoned or eating a glass sandwich?
rockywos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a homeless person (or what I assumed to be homeless) walk into a BevMo (a large store that sells mostly alcoholic beverages) and proceeded to ask the lady in front of me in line to the cashier for $5. She said no and the person immediately asked me for $5. I too said no, and the person went over to the stand where they had sampler shots of various different liquors. I would have probably given the person food if the same question was asked at a restaurant, but not at BevMo.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Check them coins.
Quarters, dimes, and half-dollars from 1964 and earlier are 90% silver and worth more than their face value. Hang on to them.
Nickles from 1964 and earlier are 35% silver, and worth more than their face value.
Half-Dollars from 1965-1969 are 40% silver and worth more than their face value.
Also the gift cards story... that sounds legit to me. What's she gonna do with grocery store gift cards? Pretty much all she can do is buy groceries. Buying the right foods at the right prices can feed her a lot longer than if you just get her something for now. If she finds some way to turn those gift cards into cash or drugs or something, you know what, fuckin' good on her for her resourcefulness.
doctechnical ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:52:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sell them for $0.50 on the dollar and use the cash to get drugs / booze.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:57:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that makes her undeserving of help, why?
I dunno, as someone struggling to ensure I have enough food right now, I can feel for the need to buy the right groceries to last, and I think I would take the risk if someone asked me for gift cards so they could get their own groceries... If I could afford to give.
VictrixCausa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People trade SNAP EBT cards (basically a debit card for food stamp benefits) for things all the time. For example, I used to work for social services, and smokers in front of our office building would get offered EBT cards in exchange for cigarettes. Not hard to imagine the same thing happening with a gift card. Besides, depending on the location, it's possible that the store sells cigarettes, booze, and/or other items that a gift card could directly purchase.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair point.
I'd trade my SNAP EBT card for a job.
VictrixCausa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:15:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So would most recipients (and that's the way the system is supposed to work). You can actually still keep the benefits during a transition period even after you're no longer eligible, btw.
There is a small subset of "perpetual recipients" who have decided that they're ok with scraping by on benefits (I'm not talking about people who are unfit for work). At least some of them are probably getting income from illegal (or at least untaxed) sources, but there are a few who just don't see the point in working. Unfortunately, their existence feeds into the "lazy" stereotype, which makes it harder for everyone who's trying to earn their way off of benefits.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I don't care.
I just want to work.
Senorhip ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/thathappened
bigbeaudelindeau ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 17:06:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, homeless people aren't necessarily starving. There are plenty of real homeless people out there who have plenty of food, a decent phone (which these days can be < $40), toiletries, etc. Those aren't too hard to get in the US. Compare the cost of those things to the cost of rent, which is much higher. Most homeless people are trying to get a place to stay.
Unnormally ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:06:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd love to pick up a homeless person and give them a place to stay for a few weeks, if it would genuinely help them. I'm just afraid I would get robbed or worse.
bigbeaudelindeau ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:30:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've thought about doing this but there are several issues:
I have roommates and a landlord who would not approve.
Robbery is highly unlikely, but any guest might steal your stuff.
People are usually homeless for a reason other than simply "hard times" -- many have mental health issues (including addictions); or less seriously, they might just be difficult people. There's a reason they are out on the street and not crashing on a friend's couch. People with addiction problems are likely to steal from you -- not that this is the worst thing in the world. Unless you have a ton of free time, you may not be able to handle living with someone like this.
If you let a guest stay with you long enough they might be able to claim tenancy and stay longer than you want them to. In some situations it might be possible even if they don't pay you anything. I'm just guessing but it's something to look out for.
Even if the person does not have a legal right to stay with you, you might find it hard to kick them out. Your guest will know where you live and knows you have a soft spot for them and may try to take advantage of that.
So, sheltering a homeless person would be a very admirable, selfless, and radical thing for you to do. But you have to be ready for it. Probably a better course of action would be to volunteer at a homeless shelter and make friends with non-transient homeless people in your community. Maybe you'll find someone you trust enough to let them be a guest in your home.
Unnormally ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:40:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Said in many more words than I think necessary. But yes, all of those things are reasons why I wouldn't do it. I just wish those reasons weren't a threat, in which case I would happily supply a mattress and even food for a predetermined length of stay.
jcleary555 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:45:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. I could steal food if I was really hungry and I have a shitty safe link phone. Most the time I flew a sign it was because I needed money for a hotel room so I could get a shower and some good sleep. But I would never turn down any kind of help whether it be food or tampons.
robotnudist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a hard time believing they're gonna come up with 2 months rent to get started, plus don't most places require at least a reference and a pay stub? There are already places homeless can stay in every town I've lived in, at least temporarily.
plasmasphinx ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:49:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once after shopping for groceries, I encountered a panhandler in the parking lot. I didn't have cash, but I had a bag of yogurts... So I gave him a yogurt. He said thanks and I walked to my car.
When I got to my car, I turned around and saw him furiously hurl the yogurt at the ground. WTF!? You didn't have to take the yogurt, brah!
MayorOfCrownKing ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:03:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's so weird, who doesn't like sandwiches? I make good money but if someone just up and gave me a sandwich. I'd still be thankful!
Jst_curious ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:24:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember offering a wrap I just bought off a street vendor to two old ladies who were starving. They looked at me and said they couldn't share and needed money.
One time in China, this old lady and her young daughter asked for money. I told them they were looking for dish washers (people to wash dishes) in the restaurants the street over. They left fairly quickly.
In Korea, a woman kept asking for money at a subway. My friend insisted it's fine, she gave her the money - should've been enough. We got on the train, the lady resumed her begging.
China, bridge, cyclist with a map says his tyre was punctured and need money for food to ride back to his hometown. He was all geared up. I have him fruit which he threw into the river below.
China, friend gave a begged ยฃ5. The bigger picked it up and placed it into his roll of bills and back into his jacket and continued begging.
Italy, lady with a sleeping child. She was crying out for help that her son had no food. Doesn't take food but want money...
I am done with all of them.
Edit: When I say 'it should've been enough' for the Korean womean - that's because my friend gave her the exact amount she needed for her train. Yet she stayed on the platform and continued asking when we got on our train and the train doors closed.
jcleary555 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You say the money your friend gave should have been enough, should have been enough for what? How do you know how much money that person needed? Whenever I've gone out I have a specific goal in mind and stop when I reach it. Usually it's $50 which is enough for a hotel room, because honestly I'd rather starve and sleep in a bed after having a shower. So just because some guy gave me a $10 doesn't mean that I'm not going to continue standing with the sign if I have $45 in my pocket and am $5 away from a hotel room. Sure some people out there are full of shit but you don't know without actually talking to them instead of just passing judgement.
Jst_curious ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:04:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Should've been enough' because that's exactly the amount the Korean lady asked for to get the train back home. My friend is also Korean so no way there was any miscommunication.
I don't have time to pass judgement just providing my observation and sharing my experience.
jcleary555 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You say the money your friend gave should have been enough, should have been enough for what? How do you know how much money that person needed? Whenever I've gone out I have a specific goal in mind and stop when I reach it. Usually it's $50 which is enough for a hotel room, because honestly I'd rather starve and sleep in a bed after having a shower. So just because some guy gave me a $10 doesn't mean that I'm not going to continue standing with the sign if I have $45 in my pocket and am $5 away from a hotel room. Sure some people out there are full of shit but you don't know without actually talking to them instead of just passing judgement.
The-Juggernaut ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:24:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you see a homeless person approaching you and you do not want to be stopped, point at their feet and say something like "LOOK OUT" or "DONT STEP IN THAT" and really sell it. When they look down you just keep walking and do not stop
wheresmychips ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:46:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Here you go sir, a nice sandwich :)" "I said a dollar bitch!" hurls sandwich
lapekes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty much how the situation unfolded.
mmadiaa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:06:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would you also hate all black people if one black guy was mean to you once? Just because ONE "homeless" guy is a dick doesn't mean you should never give money to any of them.
somedude456 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:08:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work with someone who is also a pastor. He is such a kind man. He has literally dozens of stories just like that. He had one just last week. He walked into a fast food place and a homeless looking man was sitting outside. He offered the man a meal if he was hungry but supposedly the dude had just eaten.
PokemonWizard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a homeless guy tell me he didn't like bacon when I tried to give him my ultimate breakfast sandwich I had just bought at the jack in the box he was begging at.
chrisreevesfunrun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I'm not in a hurry, I will offer to walk with the person to McDonalds or whatever is nearby and buy them a meal. I've done that about 10 times, and have only been taken up on it 3 times. Had some good conversations on those occasions. I assume the other 7 were just full of shit and just wanted money for whatever reason.
walkingxbeard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The day I realized I'm never giving money to homeless people is when I offered my untouched subway sandwich to some lady and she said "no I don't want it, give me 5 bucks and I'll go buy one my self"
grandmoffcory ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:23:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the most often rehashed and recycled story in the world. I know it happens to people, but I think it's just become a popular thing to say because people can repeat it to each other to not feel guilty about ignoring the homeless.
So one guy didn't want your food, what about the next dozen who might've been starving?
Edot: Also personally even if I were homeless right now I'm not a fucking dog. If someone offers me their leftovers I'm not gonna kiss their feet. I don't know if this is what you mean but often I'll see a person offer leftovers, and that's just demeaning and gross.
Edit#2 since this is locked now, just wanted to clarify. I'm not saying fuck you everyone needs to help the homeless, I'm saying it's gross when people pat each other on the back for neglecting them. When it becomes a celebration of ignoring them or telling them off like most of the comments section here.
Stop_LyingToYourself ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:12:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I usually ignore the homeless, and I do sometimes feel guilty about it. But I largely do it for my own safety, after some bad encounters and how violent then can get sometimes. I'm simply not going to increase my risk of getting hurt (as a tiny woman who is usually approached by these people on my own at night), it just scares me and it is not worth the risk for me.
That and there are literally so many "homeless" people in my city that if I helped everyone I wouldn't be able to afford to eat myself. And how am I supposed to choose who to help?
I'd never give a homless person scraps, but I have bought food for them before (as I never carry cash, so I can't give them cash).
So in summary, do I sometimes feel guilty for ignoring the homeless? Yes. But I am also at a loss as to what the best solution for actually helping them is. That not only actually helps them, but also keeps me safe.
PrincessBuzzkill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had this experience as well - except the guy threw the food in my face, spit on me, and screamed "I asked for your money, not a sandwich".
Last time I've ever given to a panhandler.
science_andshit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've told this story before... My wife was in a Whole Foods while me and the kids were waiting in the car. A couple of dudes stroll up to the window, give me a story about how they're hungry and sleeping under an overpass. I told them I didn't have any money, but my wife was in the store and I'd be happy to call her and have her bring them something. One guy says, "What do they have in there?" I said sandwiches, pizza, pretty much anything they would want. Guy says "Do they have Mountain Dew?" I said probably not and he said no thanks they moved on. At least they were polite.
I'll spend some of my money on just about whomever asks, but I don't ever give them my money.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what my dad does, he never gives money but offers to buy them something to eat. He hardly ever gets taken up on the offer of food.
McBrodoSwagins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's happened a few times where a homeless person(s) approached me and gave me a sob story about how they have no money for food, they're from out of town, cars broken down, etc. so I ask what they want? Sandwiches? Chips? Snacks? Water? Or all of it? And then they all reply with the same response, "Well, you think you can go to an ATM and pull out some money?"...
I ended up giving a homeless couple a large bottle of water and whatever change I had, like 5 bucks. For some reason I just can't say no even when I know they just want the money for drugs.
SnakeAColdCruiser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
amazing
SextonMcCormick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Donate to NEAH instead.
http://www.endhomelessness.org/
https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/national-alliance-to-end-homelessness/352
Dorkamundo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best way to determine if they are legit or not is to offer food. If they happily take it and thank you, they actually need it.
๐๏ธ SK_RVA ยท 243 points ยท Posted at 16:57:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a guy in Portland politely ask for money, and when I said "no" (because I genuinely didn't have and change/cash), he started screaming at me and my wife like a maniac, saying, "go back to n-ggerland man, go back to n-ggerland!"
harryhartounian ยท 832 points ยท Posted at 17:17:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mental illness is a thing. I was jogging at 7am yesterday and got a called a Jew faggot bunny fucker by some old man here in San Francisco. And there's no way he could have known that.
VaporNinjaPreacher ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 18:20:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best comment on the page. Well done sir!
Murfdirt ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:21:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im being honest here, in no way would I have ever thought to put those words together in that way for an insult. I have to give him a golf clap for the effort and original content
harryhartounian ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 18:25:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He had me dead to rights for sure. The spryness of the street populace in San Francisco has taken me aback on several occasions. Couple weeks ago a man at Fisherman's Wharf was blaring death metal at incredible volume at 7am as old people and children are walking by. I politely said "Sir, no one here wants to hear that shit" and continued walking. There was the briefest of pauses before he yelled "Yeah? Well no one here wants to hear YOUR FACE!"
Touche, dirtied indigent street man. Touche.
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 18:37:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
deleted What is this?
harryhartounian ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:39:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I propose that cynical internet cowards are worse than the whole lot.
lotus2471 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:25:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have your upvote, sir. And one for your bunny, too.
Zenguppy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:33:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
your future self was trying to warn you of something
harryhartounian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:37:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looper Me, is that you?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
deleted What is this?
razuku ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:39:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So was it mental illness? Or x-ray vision and or clairvoyance?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
harryhartounian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:35:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That may be true. I've never even considered the origin. It's the name of Jackie Mason's character from The Jerk. (Greatest Comedy of all time!)
toesonthenose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ืืกืื ืฉืื ืืืื ืืืชื
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
deleted What is this?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
Bloodysneeze ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:09:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You wouldn't fuck a Playboy bunny?
WorkFlow_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think that was the bunny he was referring to.
Bloodysneeze ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:16:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't know that.
adrr ยท 127 points ยท Posted at 17:04:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
don't acknowledge them. Learned my lesson in NY when someone asked me for money and he tried to pick a fight when i said no. Brother-in-law scolded me for replying to them.
Moments_In_A_Box ยท 112 points ยท Posted at 17:13:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sage advice. The only time I got into a conversation with the homeless was in San Francisco. I was at the pier taking a picture of Alcatraz when a homeless man came up to me and demanded I pay him for the picture because that was his spot on the boardwalk. I explained that I was on a business trip and would gladly pay him, but I would need him to fill out a lot of paperwork so I could write it off on my taxes. He mumbled something and walked away. A couple on the boardwalk came up to me later and said it was pretty funny, but to be careful with the homeless there. A few hours later I saw a fist fight over a cigarette.
VladimirPootietang ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:28:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
had a homeless guy I pass regularly scold me once for "not even looking at him"....motherfucker I know what youre gonna ask for and I dont owe you shit! hate those fucks that think they can get aggressive when you dont give them what they want.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:03:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The real magic is under the boardwalk.
downvote_me_moreYOLO ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:24:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are the homeless people in San Fran actually dangerous though? Is there anything particularly different with them (homeless in SF), is what I'm trying to ask.
diphiminaids ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:02:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Sorry I pay with plastic"
My go to line
fungobat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I swear they can tell if you're new to their town/city. I remember moving to Pittsburgh for school years ago, and the first few weeks it was ridiculous. "Hey, I need some cash to see my brother out in Cleveland ..."
Champigne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. Don't engage and they won't bother you.
DjentRiffication ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:26:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Portland local here. Yep, sounds about right. I remember a guy giving his sob story about how he hadn't eaten since the day before... while he had a McDonalds burger in his hand. Truly trying to convince me and a couple friends that he was desperate for food until I pointed out what he was holding, then he got all pissed off, called me a "stupid faggot" and went and sat down to finish his burger.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:02:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"nggerland, The blackest place on Earth"
johnjay ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:13:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DARKNESS
kushari ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:35:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Charlie Murphy!
johnjay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RIP - I genuinely liked his comedy.
kushari ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
johnjay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://imgur.com/n1HcLTl
supersonicmike ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rides include being subjected to racial slurs and being dragged from a Ford pickup. I haven't been yet but I heard their rope attraction is pretty fun.
armored-dinnerjacket ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what's at naggerland? is it like Neverland?
MajesticBosom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:24:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah dude there's some crazies in Portland. Best not to even acknowledge them if you don't want to give them any money. But down there I've seen homeless families with kids, really young kids too. They could use some help for sure.
irving47 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See? Proof positive he doesn't need you. He has a gaming computer all set up at home. And when he goes there, he starts spamming voice chat.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:57:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well did you go back or what!?
Rynur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my gf and I were in Portland for a week, we were surprised on how many homeless people we walked by and no one talked to us. Here in Colorado, I would say 75% of them ask you for something. Hell, a couple years ago my gf and I were in the middle of eating and a homeless guy came up and asked if he could have it -_- He probably wasn't all there though. After we declined, he sang a love song to the two of us. Well if you call yodeling a type of singing.
WildBillandDirtyTom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never had a problem with homeless people in Portland. They were some of the most polite I've seen in the states, also the youngest. Surprising since there are so god damn many of them. Was this during one of their beer festivals? -WB
Did you guys actually go? How are the beggars there? -DT
bilzar1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This just happened to me this weekend. Was at the food carts literally paying for my food with a card when he approached and asked for a dollar. Said "Sorry, I don't carry cash." And he starts flipping out "I know your f'ing lying man!" and waving his hands everywhere
Took my girlfriend and my takoyaki and got away from that guy. Came back after eating to properly thank the people who gave me food.
dbx99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is admittedly a little strange since you're ethnically Chinese...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad to see racists be homeless.
Love_asweetbooty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Naggerland?
BreakfastsforDinners ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:22:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
are you a...nagger?
he probably just wanted you to stop bothering him.
Gules ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:16:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RVA has had an influx of panhandlers recently. I even saw some out in Short Pump! Crazy.
ArmoredFan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:12:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Been here 4 years, the panhandlers haven't changed and operate in different locations. Same spot all the time.
I'm indifferent to panhandlers now.
Gules ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:16:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to carry around a big box of individually wrapped bags of chips in my car and give them out - after giving them to the one guy on Hamilton and Monument like 4 times he said I should stop unless I had cash. I was like... really dude.
ArmoredFan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahaha
TheBionicBoy ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:13:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Genuinely interesting read. Goes to show that wherever there's a decent sum of money to be made, people will start to organise and run it like a business.
Hight3chLowlif3 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 16:36:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, it's not nearly as bad here in the US, but Europe has some despicable rackets that prey on people's charity. Women forced to panhandle in the street with a "loaner baby" that is often drugged to keep him quiet/sleeping. Kids forced to beg all day and get beat for not bringing in enough. Really nasty stuff.
computeraddict ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:08:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roma?
Hight3chLowlif3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:27:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very likely, but I can't really remember as it's been a while since I watched the docs. Definitely East European something or other though. Whatever it was I'm sure the same is present in Roma culture.
milesdizzy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:40:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The really fucked up ones give you their baby to hold and then steal all your shit while you're holding their baby. Then you're stuck with a random kid and they've run off somewhere. It's not like you're gonna drop a baby.
To be fair I saw a lot of panhandlers and shady criminals in Europe, but never actually saw the "hold my baby" scam firsthand. Just heard about it.
AnDie1983 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:19:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about the whole of Europe, but drugged babies are something I never heard of.
Getting kids to beg and steal still happens in some places though. Especially as kids don't get punished a lot (if at all).
Overall - when I last visited - I had the impression, that there were much more people begging in the states than here in Europe.
However this might be due to living in Germany and comparing tourist hotspots with my usual quiet city.
Hight3chLowlif3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe the overall amount of beggars, but I've never seen child "gangs" in the streets here asking for money. I can't speak for the whole of Europe as my travels are limited as well, but in the few places I've been (mostly touristy) they were thick.
Google "drugged baby begging" and you'll probably find some good hits.
toechill ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:50:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It really sucks because in Carytown there is a shelter with real homeless people, several with mental disabilities, that need help. And here are these people, taking away help from those who really need it. It's disgusting.
I'm also sick of the story about how "I had to bury my moms today and we are only in town for the weekend and my daughter is back at a motel alone in a shitty part of town and we need exactly $8.39 so she can get her food."
This same story is used weekly on me. More people taking money from those who need it. I've even had the same dude in the same week, a few days apart, ask me. Fuck your scam.
furyofdragns ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:56:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a richmonder!
Xtinguish ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:08:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is common. People that beg don't want jobs, they have them, they're professional beggars.
djuggler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:29:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was stuck at the LA International Airport for 12 hours once. Went to the food court and was immediately approached by a pan handler. I declined. Because I was there so long, he approached me two more times so on the third time I said, "I'm getting some food. Would you like some food or a drink?" He accepted a drink and we sat and talked. After a couple of minutes, he got squirmy then said, "Look man. This is nice and all but I'm losing money. I gotta get back to work." And off he went. When I started to get tired, I asked him where I could get some rest and he took me behind a construction area where there were rows of seats with a dozen or so sleeping pan handlers, passengers, and security guards. He showed me how to put my luggage between me and a window and sleep without fear of losing anything.
_Quetzalcoatlus_ ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 16:36:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's quite the assertion to make based on one anecdote. I worked with the homeless in Portland, OR, and knew or at least recognized many of the homeless people around the city. At least in Portland, the panhandlers aren't going back to apartments and houses. They are homeless.
Either way, though, the best thing to do is to give directly to non-profits that help the homeless. Whether they are real panhandlers or not, giving to a reputable organization addresses both issues.
Stoopid-Stoner ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:54:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Portland has an issue with runnaways from UT that become homeless in OR correct?
That is an issue and there are legit homeless panhandlers however the fake ones or union ones as we call them here in South FL are scam artist and are very much real and an issue.
_Quetzalcoatlus_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:07:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if there was a lot specifically from Utah. I worked with the adult homeless population, though, so I wouldn't know particular youth trends well. Portland does attract a lot of homeless though, because we have mild weather and some of the best programs in the country.
Yeah, I know it's an issue, I just took exception to OPs statement that it was "many (if not all)." From my experience, that's inaccurate. And I wouldn't want people to treat those actually in need like they are scummy scam artists.
Stoopid-Stoner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree for the most part however, different areas have different issues. Some areas it is an issue of fake panhandlers others they are legit homeless. In your area might be mostly legit homeless panhandlers, in my area of South FL? They are mostly union.
And the UT thing came from my research of Portland as a possible "get the fuck outta Florida" escape city, seems to be a bunch of kids running away from the Mormon Church
TheMysteriousFizzyJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh man
I have pleeeeennnty of friends that fit this
for some reason Bellevue and Portland attract young Utahns
GOTaSMALL1 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:02:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't live in Portland but worked a couple construction projects downtown. There is a massive contingent of people, most of whom I'd refer to as "kids", that are willingly homeless. Like... a shocking amount. Been all over the Country and never seen anything like it.
Portland was also the first City I'd been to where instead of asking for a cigarette or change... or even a dollar... the street urchins would walk up and say, "Hey man, can I have five bucks?" Really? Five bucks?
Also had my car broken into 3 times in the span of 6 months while I worked there.
I'm sure there is a very real problem with true homelessness... mental illness etc... but whatever y'all are doing is also attracting lots of lazy assholes.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:17:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Downtown Austin used to be like that with the homeless kids back in the late 90s, especially during the summers.
ILL_Show_Myself_Out ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After decades of living in the city that's the FIRST time you walked (or I guess biked around it?) I thought it was kinda funny that you were advocating walking around as though it was something nobody did..(or I guess biking around). Perhaps the city is spread out?
transc3nder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thankyou for not shittymorph-ing the end of your interesting story. Sad state of affairs when I start gritting my teeth towards the end of a post, expecting an Undertaker-themed tangent.
lucky_ducker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:57:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in a similar size city in the midwest, and a lot of the panhandlers here are part of some sort of loosely-organized syndicate just like you describe.
hangfromthisone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about other places, but in Buenos Aires, Argentina, at night you would see a lot of trans people standing in the corners, offering their services. I used to think, damn there must be a lot of closet gays in this city. Then I learned that many of them sell cocaine, and when you see then leaning to a car window, they are not discussing how much for a blow job. They are selling dope
sparklingbuttknuckle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah there was another ring based in the alley behind the Chanello's at Broad and Boulevard. The leader of that one got the shit kicked out of him and was found in that alley. He survived but he was seriously fucked up. Still a lot of panhandlers at that intersection though so I'm sure someone else took over.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:27:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know that the police couldn't do much about it, but a local news station could do something maybe.
borndigger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:16:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree this is a practice which should be exposed but let's be honest, if people want to leave their day job, park their car, and beg on the corner for cash because other people will just give it to them, they can. There is no laws against lying. Her pretenses may be false, and she is likely scum , but the real dummies in these situations are the people who give her money. Further, the guy was an asshole. He could have exposed her fraudulent behavior and went about his day without looking like a douche.
bpwnz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
offtopic, but as a cyclist I found Richmond to be an amazing town to ride in. Will have to come back soon, hope you're still exploring on 2 wheels.
a_calder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goes on for 5 more paragraphs
podocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're saying it's a brothel now?
888-23-9912 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Philadelphia?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hold up: "a porn store that is now a taco shop"? That's not how I like my guac.
thunderhole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting read. Thanks for sharing
SillieNelson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Half way though the story I thought, "If this ends with in a hell in a cell match I'm going to be pissed."
CrisisOfConsonant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In areas that don't get particularly cold, you get a lot of crust punks. But they usually have longer spiels from what I know. They're more of the "I was travelling across the country because my wife is giving birth in a few days but my car broke down. Can I get like $20 so I can buy parts? If you give me your address I'll mail you the money back once I'm home" stories. I guess they feel like begging for just change isn't rewarding enough.
TotesMessenger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a bot, bleep, bloop. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit:
If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads. (Info / Contact)
HungerForHipHop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is pretty much what Frank does in one season in 'Shameless' hahaha
nutmac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or better yet, don't give money to panhandlers. Donate your money to homeless organizations like homeless shelter and homeless kitchen instead.
And frankly, I don't want to encourage panhandlers to keep returning to where I frequent.
TheGlennDavid ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very little of this reads "scam," to me. It shows organization, but that's not deceptive.
I noticed this on a much smaller scale outside my office building. There were two dudes who "worked" the same median. One would stand out there and collect money while the other guy sat on a shaded park bench.
After a while they'd switch it up. I suspect the split the money that came in.
Again -- not a scam, just organization. It's hot as heck on that median and you're not gonna stand on it for 12 hours.
While they did often work towards specific cars I figured that was because there are certain people who give on a frequent basis, and the panhandlers come to recognize their car.
While cities are sort of big chaotic places, you get a fair amount of routine built in there (same people same place same time every day).
I rarely notice it, but it's there for people who are looking.
CharlesInCars ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:04:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing wrong with a guy living out of his van to coordinate to help out his homeless community. I mean not every person is going to be your image of death's door needs to eat right now every day. Good on them for entrepreneur-ing their situation into something that works, and pulls enough in to get them their calories. You seem like you have a concept of what the rules are governing being homeless.
twomillcities ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:00:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They are a scam because you know if they're poor just by looking at them? Uhhh what? Poor people can't drive or borrow vehicles or accept cars as gifts?
Where is the empathy? What right does anyone have to say they know if someone is poor or not by how they look?
Edit: i love the downvotes here. Proves me right when i get downvotes and no debate. People are ashamed that they think they know who is poor and who is not based on the car they drive or the clothes they wear.
LukeNeverShaves ยท 215 points ยท Posted at 17:21:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked at Dollar general and had a hippie lady and her family come in all the time. Coworker saw her begging outside Walmart for food, stopped an offered a box or Ritz crackers, lady refused and said they only wanted organic items or cash. Fuck those people.
spankymuffin ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 18:23:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's hilarious.
LukeNeverShaves ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:33:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They owned a hippie shop right around the corner from my work. The next day her husband or baby daddy whoever he was came in and bought some stuff and whips out his wallet that is filled like a fucking bank deposit bag with cash. Couldn't even fold it in half.
the_leprechauns_anus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:37:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"We only eat Argonic"
PeachTrees632 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 18:33:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LMAO please provide me immunity oh sovereign state of Mcdonalds
lapekes ยท 1901 points ยท Posted at 16:26:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bitch, you're wearing a t-shirt that says I Train While You Sleep..
What disability allows you to still run marathons?
Moose_Nuts ยท 815 points ยท Posted at 16:39:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A mental one, of some sort. Based on some of her comments and how she handled the situation, I'd say she has a screw loose.
Ezymandius ยท 310 points ยท Posted at 16:59:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's obviously a mental disability. I mean, she bought a Fiat. Those things are the least dependable cars sold.
HitlerHistorian ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:43:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saabs too. They will put your mechanic's kids through college
isUsername ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:22:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fix it again, Tony.
jaksida ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:44:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know that's what Ford stands for.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:59:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit, Dale, that's a Fiat.
spali ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:09:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do it for Dale!
isUsername ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was "Found On Road Dead".
downvote_me_moreYOLO ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:27:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fatally obese redneck drivers
VAPERWAVE ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:08:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the ugliest
molrobocop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fiat-chrysler. It's like begging for shoddy electrical and transmission systems. Or hell, Jeep Renegade. 500 with a Jeep badge.... Asking for bad juju.
GraharG ยท 366 points ยท Posted at 16:49:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i think she may just have been stupid
Stoopid-Stoner ยท 171 points ยท Posted at 16:57:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She wasn't expected to get caught
ExcerptMusic ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:12:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a different mental handicap.
Revircs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:55:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mentally in a wheelchair.
dbx99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like Stephen Hawking?
jamesd33n ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:28:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She has the dumbs
Graynard ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:33:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More like selfishlazy-itis
ohshitineedmusic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:32:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its 100% just stupidity. Shes just panicking and trying to find a way to get out of the situation shes in...
IcedDante ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that qualifies
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 16:47:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking the dude should've said that, "Maybe a mental disability". It's probably best he didn't.
Moose_Nuts ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 16:51:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, you've got to be level headed when you're the cameraman...save the judgement for us here on Reddit!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:58:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's better said now than then. She could've spun that into hate speech(maybe?) or actual harassment.
Moose_Nuts ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:07:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I was actually disappointed that the guy filming didn't respond to the ladies comments that someone might kill him.
"Oh, is that a threat?"
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That really did sound like a threat.
choufleur47 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:00:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
he was too busy explaining the virality of the video
doogie88 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:35:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely something wrong with her by some of the things she was saying.
I_m_High ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No she knew what she was doing. She tried bring other people into the mix to play the victim card she just didn't catch a white knight
Gl0riousGr0uch ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:01:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
personally i find it slightly alarming that someone with a mental disability is still allowed to drive....
_Sasquat_ ยท 146 points ยท Posted at 17:21:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People in this thread are getting to the right conclusion with the most retarded logic.
If she were really homeless, do you think she'd give a shit what her shirt says? A homeless person would probably grab whatever they could from Salvation Army or whatever.
EatATaco ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:49:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do we know it is "the right conclusion?" Is there more to this story that I have no seen? Because there is absolutely nothing conclusive in that video. The car could have been bought before she fell on hard times, or it could be a loan from a friend.
Kousetsu ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 18:28:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep I'm on the side of this. A car means fuck all.
Infact, I'm reminded of a very recent thing that happened in my country - where a guy was hounded by the daily mail (normal people being hound down and their lives ruined by the daily mail? Whod have thought it...) For being "homeless with a car".
The guy used the car to sleep. He had a serious heroin addiction. If he didn't sleep in his car he could sometimes stay at a B&B for a night (the DM said this was "friends houses").
The car was given to him as part of an uncles will. He hadn't sold it because he was scared he'd spend the money on drugs, and it was also his only proper possession. And he could sleep in it.
He got so many threats, so much harrassment, he had to give his dog away (his only friend left).
Oh and don't worry - the local people also destroyed his car.
So he doesn't have that anymore.
Honestly, I fucking hate this shit. People go round with a massive boner for "catching" this stuff out, when they know 5% of the situation at most, and they've just ruined someone elses life so they can feel morally superior over someone.
Edit: fixed some words and just wanted to add how gross it is that I had to scroll down this far to find anyone questioning this. Even if she is faking, my thoughts are that it doesn't matter. It doesn't stop me giving my change. And I don't care if they spend it on drink or drugs - everyone has their problems. I drink. I do drugs - who the fuck am I to judge someone else on harder times?
We are all two unlucky situations away from being homeless. All of us are. And that's why, even if people are faking, that is not the issue.
If you want to reduce "fake panhandlers" reduce panhandling in general. Make a proper support system for these people. Going around "shaming" people only makes things far worse for the actual homeless people (if you believe there are people faking this, which really blows my mind anyway)
We are all only two unlucky situations from being in the same position. So make the position a less desperate one.
_Sasquat_ ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 18:00:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The conclusion in this case had to do with whether or not she's disabled. She's clearly not disabled, not physically anyway.
But your other point is spot on. Literally no proof here as to whether or not she's really homeless. She dodgy, but most people are when they have a camera in their face.
PoopEndeavor ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 18:17:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you not consider psychological disability a possibility? I've seen so many comments ITT about how childlike and dim she seems yet no one wants to believe she might actually be disabled. I'm not saying she is or isn't, the video doesn't provide enough context. But considering what she's doing with her life it's definitely worth considering and would explain a lot.
As you said, most anyone, when surprised by two camera guys threatening you, would appear "dodgy."
_Sasquat_ ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:35:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes
shadycrop ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:15:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That car looked pretty spotless. I kinda doubt she was living out of it.
EatATaco ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:19:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And it could have been loaned to her by a friend. Or maybe she is crashing a friend's couch. What you are doing is not looking at the facts and saying "What can we really tell?" It seems to me you are looking at the facts and saying "how can I view the facts to support my position?"
CrazyTillItHurts ยท 168 points ยท Posted at 16:50:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just throwing this out there. I am disabled. I didn't need a lawyer and years of court to get it. I've got some bad mental problems and I promise no one wants me working for anyone. If you see me outside, I am having a good day/moment. You aren't seeing the bad shit that goes on behind closed doors.
jack_shephards_pie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:46:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out..
ArjenRobbenVanPersie ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 18:33:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out
EatATaco ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:47:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are we really citing t-shirts as proof of a person not having a disability?
Look, I don't know this woman's story. But neither do you. She could be running some scam, or maybe she bought a car and fell on hard times. Or maybe she fell on hard times and a friend loans her a car so she can drive out here and beg. If she does actually have some issues, it's no surprise to me that she isn't sharing it with some guys who just come up and start filming it, threatening to share it all over social media and the news?
This is basically just a witch hunt. Why not reserve judgment until you know all the facts, rather than trying to force the facts to fit your prejudice. I mean, seriously, you are citing what her shirt says to prove she doesn't have a disability. I can't believe this is getting upvotes.
mattmccurry ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:58:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to give her argument any credit, but many people do have disabilities that are not easily seen. And they have no obligation to tell you what it is. However, this woman is a piece of shit and probably doesn't have one at all.
dis_ABLED ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 17:18:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have one leg and I'm wheelchair bound, I do 5 and 10ks. The liar sucks, but don't assume what us disabled folks can and cant do.
Space_Conductor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:04:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but you are a little bit slower aren't you, you cheeky bastard.
dis_ABLED ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:06:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bet I can roll faster than you can run. People can beat me, but those people tend to be athletes as well. I easily outpace your average 5k runner.
Space_Conductor ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:12:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, with your mechanical wonder wheels.
iDidAcidOnce ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would consider most people who run in 5k's and 10k's to be athletes. They're participating in an athletic event.
I'm assuming that a lot of people can run faster than you in your wheelchair. Sorry man. You're being kinda cocky, can't you see that?
pfont ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
dis_ABLED ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey guys look! It one of dem dere trolls. Get the poking sticks!
doctorjesus__ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:11:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ man, you get what he's saying, stop trying to spin what a stranger said into your own personal story
EatATaco ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know she is lying?
Luck_E ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:59:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was asking for money because she was homeless. So, when they called her out on that, she claimed it was actually because she had a disability, but her sign said she needed money because she was homeless. Couldn't name her disability and didn't have a good reply when the sign was pointed out. Pretty clear she is a liar.
EatATaco ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:22:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't see anything that proved to me that she was saying she was homeless. If there is a link to what her sign said, I would like to see it. I did a quick google search and turned up nothing but this video.
Or she didn't want to name her disability. I probably wouldn't share my medical history, especially if I found it somewhat embarrassing, to some people promising to share the video of me all over social media and the news.
grandmoffcory ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:28:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not all disabilities are visible or physical.
Speaking as someone who probably should be on disability because my psychological problems leave me bouncing job to job and often homeless, just because I may look healthy and able bodied or occasionally happy doesn't mean a thing.
prickelypear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is very true, but in the video, she states that her disability is she has hip problems. Yes not a visible disability in every case, I know this well because I have hip problems too and you wouldn't know it unless you looked really carefully and knew you were looking for a hip problem. But at the same time, you have to ask what kind of hip problems could someone have that are so bad they can't work... but they are fine walking around and even jogging at one point to beg for money for hours?
Edit: Though I do definitely agree with what others have said about her owning a Fiat not proving she isn't homeless. It is very possible she got it when things were better then she lost her job, then her home, and now the car is all she really has left and is essentially her home now and has to use some of the money she gets to pay for it if it's not paid off. Which, is a shitty situation to be in of course. Granted at that point you'd be better off selling the car and using what you get for it to get a place, then you can use the money you get panhandling to pay for your new place while looking for a job. If where you live has public transport or is easy enough to still get around on like a bike or if walking wouldn't be a massive stretch.
GoiterGlitter ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:43:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can buy used marathon shirts at every thrift store in America.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:47:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to defend her but that's the exact kind of shirt you can probably find a dozen of in a goodwill
B-rizzle ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:23:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can also tell from the shape of her arms and body that she's physically fit. If she has a disability, it isn't a physical one.
caesarsaladmustdie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:05:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It could still be a physical one. Physical disabilities are often "unseen" and have nothing to do with how fit you are, eg epilepsy, diabetes, severe IBS (irritable bowel syndrome), etc. They're called hidden disabilities and there are many of them. It's a shame most people forget about them.
j4_jjjj ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dat ass doe...
benoitrio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you seriously, genuinely think this makes sense? just want to be sure
iamkoalafied ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Besides what everyone else said, she could have been wearing clothes that were donated. I wear some tshirts for a gym I've never been to because my grandma passed away and I turned her old gym shirts into pajamas.
I don't think she's legitimately homeless but I'm just saying this on the off chance you come across someone who is actually homeless or disabled but is wearing a tshirt that indicates otherwise.
WalterWhiteBeans ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 16:39:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The kind that makes her a self righteous cunt.
Envoy_to_the_Stars ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 17:37:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like the more aggressive panhandlers are at begging for money, the more likely they are a "fake." Most of the panhandlers in my area that legitimately could use some help are a bit more humble or "ashamed" of having to ask, and they will generally leave when they have what they need.
wastesHisTimeSober ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:14:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Generally I agree. I think there are two exceptions I can think of. One is mental illness. The other is someone who is legitimately homeless being taught by someone who is a professional panhandler how to increase the odds of landing the donation.
The aggressiveness is a learned behavior, though there's an art to it. It increases the odds of success overall.
It's kind of like dealing with a telemarketer. They have carefully picked every action to make sure you stay on the line until you donate, and there are different approaches they will take depending on the mark. There are different experience/skill levels, but it's definitely good business.
In my old neighborhood, you'd see this one a lot. Pimp/trick pairs where the pimp hangs back and lets the frail-looking woman walk up and ask, but stays just close enough to jump in and intimidate and guilt trip people who say no.
At a Halloween festival, I saw two guys do it where one is the smiley, chummy guy who asks for money, and the other is the mean, scary guy who yells at you if you say no.
In my opinion, the best ones to give money to are the showmen. Magicians, musicians, statues, jugglers, dancers, etc. These guys are mostly doing honest work, though beware pickpockets and purse snatchers in this situation.
I wound up rambling. Fuck it, I'm posting it.
bluvelvetunderground ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:59:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live downtown. I see a lot of homeless people and a lot of beggars. If they say they want change for food, offer to buy them food instead. The truly homeless will accept, but usually they say no, and will avoid you after that.
Ivanka_Trumpalot ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 18:25:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a homeless guy near where I live who I see regularly when I get my weekend morning bagels. I've given him fresh bagels and hot coffee numerous times and we address each other by name when our paths cross. He's always very grateful. At one point I asked if he wanted to grab some Jake's Wayback (burger place in CT) with me and he politely declined. He seemed like he really wanted to go, but he explained that it's embarrassing enough to be homeless in the first place, but to go sit down in a restaurant with someone else who was obviously paying for his meal wasn't something he was comfortable doing. He didn't want to be stared at. Long story short, I bought double the food I usually would and took it to go. I met back up with him and you'd think the guy breathed beef.
Not sure why I bothered telling this story.. .it's a slow Monday I guess.
fightoffyourdemons- ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:38:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a lovely story, I appreciated it.
Not in a "superior" way, but helping someone and seeing their gratitude always gives me the warm and fuzzies.
Ericellent ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 16:34:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She feels entitled to people's help in a number of ways. Wow.
wastesHisTimeSober ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 17:49:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent point! I didn't make that connection, but you're right. Her whole personality seems to be crafted around getting other people to handle her problems. She's like a middle manager of panhandling.
Shirfyr_Blaze ยท 146 points ยท Posted at 17:20:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Love it when she implies someone is going to kill them. What an adult thing to say!
Frankieseshy ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 18:21:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, she was so embarrassed that she just solicited validation from a McDonalds drive thru employee.
accidentlycelibate ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 17:30:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha the people at McDonalds are thinking I dont get paid enough to involve myself in this shit
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:00:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, they should panhandle.
Richie2K ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:18:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"They won't leave me alone!"
Now you know how the people you beg from feels like. You got what you deserved "homeless" lady.
jetemias95 ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 17:44:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But she trains while we sleep
Mr_Satizfaction ยท 221 points ยท Posted at 16:44:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I bark wherever I wanna bark." I like this guy, and that woman is being a serious bitch about being caught.
TooShiftyForYou ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 17:14:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It looked like they had seen her before and were prepared. They also knew they could film all they want so long as they didn't touch her. Great job gentleman.
StargateMunky101 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:11:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You're stupid. Someone's gonna kill you."
evilili ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I AM the bark!" would have been nice.
podocks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:22:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she were a serious bitch, she'd be the one doing the barking, amirite?
[deleted] ยท 265 points ยท Posted at 17:05:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. I cannot believe how many people are defending this POS. If she lived in her car, or really wasn't scamming anyone she would explain her situation to the guy. Instead, she just threatens him because she's been caught.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 18:33:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i know and to go the "mental health issues" route is just making people with real mental issues seem rude or POS.
and i am a counselor with my NCE and LCPC, this is not a person with "mental health issues"
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:37:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't spent enough time with this person to know if she has neurological issues. But she is obtaining others' property (money) by false pretenses.
spankymuffin ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:24:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not defending her, but they were being pretty confrontational. She should've just bolted and left in her car rather than do what she did or try to explain herself.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 18:30:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, she really does owe no one any explanation. The videographers are acting aggressively, regardless of the situation. If I were in her situation I'd also feel threatened and would never try justifying myself to people like them.
This video should be a prime example of how to not confront people...
sunnyohno ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 17:18:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The sickest thing I see in New Orleans is the exploitation of kids for pan handling. They do it under the guise of they're raising money for a sports team. They'll have half a dozen kids working both sides of a busy intersection wearing the most generic colored athletic wear that just says "cheer" or something. New day, new color jersey.
I'd love for someone to expose this for what it is.
Dat_J3w ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 17:55:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, I seen this woman around RVA all the time, everyone knows she's a sham. When I saw this video I thought, man what if it's the girl from parham and patterson and hot dog it is. Reddit is a marvelous place.
Fuddit ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 18:09:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The way she's lying straight up, playing the victim game, pretending she don't know what they're talking about. Classic scumbag of humane society, why do I have to live and breath the same air as these degenerates. I hate humans.
GOTaSMALL1 ยท 152 points ยท Posted at 16:48:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donate to a local shelter/work placement program... I have bought gas for "stranded" travelers... and I give "homeless" people food when I can.
If you want to help... stop giving panhandlers cash!
WestsideStorybro ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 17:28:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Stranded" that is a popular scam as well. Doesn't it bother you that you are hoodwink into parting with your capital?
cloistered_around ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:45:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think if you are literally buying gas for them (they have a car at the pump and all you do is swipe) that's debateable over whether it's being scammed or helping, but this is definitely a common tactic and no one should be handing over cash to "stranded" travelers.
Another common one is "I/my mother/my son just got out of the hospital."
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:59:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A few months ago at the gas station, someone asked me for money, for gas. I said sure, but I am not giving you money, Ill pay for the gas. I asked the lady to put money on the pump he was at. She said, I know you want to help, but as soon as you leave, he will come back in here and demand a refund (I was giving her cash). She said it happens all the time. So I walk out and tell him and he gets pissed off and drives away, in his car....that was out of gas. LOL
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:25:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Put the gas in first. Can't get a refund then no matter how much they bitch.
GOTaSMALL1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:59:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I buy them gas... I don't give them cash. If they're taking the few gallons I squirted into their gas can to sell for drugs or whatever... more power to them.
ikmiar82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, we don't have many homeless in my country (the netherlands). But once I encounter one I always offer food. Not one cent will go to that guy, always a sandwich or something like that. 8/10 times they decline and are subtile about wanting money. No thank you sir.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:26:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you want to help keep working hard at your job where you pay taxes that pay for the services that actually help these people. Many of whom conform to all the worst stereotypes about them.
GOTaSMALL1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well... if you want to help... donate to a reputable, local charity... or volunteer time if you can't afford it. Being alive for a long time there's a rule that I've learned... Government sucks ass at doing stuff.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really any more or less than private companies or charities, half of which are scams.
GOTaSMALL1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:34:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of them are scams... which is why you need to check out any place you're giving your hard earned money.
That said... simply by the nature of the size and scope of the programs involved, government is horrifically inefficient... even with the best intentions. Add in the unnecessary bureaucracy, bloat and potential corruption and it gets worse.
Here's a great recent example about the ridiculous problems with the Children's Trust Fund in LA.
I do a few different biker Toy Runs in my area... I can be pretty damn sure that the toys don't end up in a fucking warehouse.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, I didn't know that anyone still talks like this. Of course we don't have nearly enough taxpayer-funded services in this country, just paying taxes isn't doing nearly enough.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:15:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How much is "enough" exactly? There is food housing and clothing for anyone who bothers to try and generally follows a few simple rules (don't be high, don't be violent).
IWillKarateKickYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol you reminded me. the other day at a gas station see a guy standing out front and asks me for money says his car broke down. I was just like "ha yeah ive heard that one before". cause for some reason everyone down here says that. but i ended up giving him 2 dollars anyway. we end up talking more and i find out he is a pan handler and wants me to drive him to a good spot. said he makes good money there too. had to pass on that one
sereneflash ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:47:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is insane
Lahwrenzeaux ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:55:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yo this is crazy it's been all over my local news and here it is on Reddit!!
merc27 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:54:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm disabled, your sign says your homeless. Priceless
__zombie ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 18:19:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to be a bank teller by a popular beach in Southern California. There was a guy with $3000 in his account, lived in section 8 housing (low income housing) for about $300 a month 2 blocks from the beach. Everyday, I saw him hang out by the touristy shops with a "I <3 Jesus" hat begging for money. Then, he would hang out with his friends rest of the afternoon until just before the bank closed, he would come deposit what was left or withdraw some more for the night. I hated this guy, he ate better than me, lived at a better place, had better clothes, and worked less. Fuck able bodied and mentally able beggars.
BGYeti ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 17:27:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And this is why you donate to charities that help the homeless instead of giving money to people on that side of the road, not to mention your money will go further helping more people when given to a charity.
wastesHisTimeSober ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:59:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But always donate directly. Skip the callers and the cash register collections. I've been told the agencies that collect for charities take a substantial cut.
gervinho90 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:06:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is important. Some charities take the large majority for themselves.
HitlerHistorian ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:50:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a fair amount of charities that are scams too
staygold_pony_boy ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:09:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But I only give to charity by registering for Susan G. Komen 5k events, so I'm good, right?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:13:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, I donate to food banks directly.
BeastMaster66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good point! Or unless it is clear they just need a bus ticket or something.
PetriMobJustice ยท 164 points ยท Posted at 17:16:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My guess is her disability is in the mental health category.
fatman_danish ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 18:20:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well they pointed out that her sign specifically said she was homeless so that can't even save her.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:47:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would be her only saving, mitigating grace, I guess. If she was truly mentally unbalanced, I would find this type of video sad and cringe-worthy from the reverse viewpoint.
Zanpie ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:32:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do find it sad and cringe worthy from the other perspective.
Perhaps it's just because I've been down and out... Those guys calling her out just seem a bit shrill with their vindication. I don't know her story and neither do they. I simply don't think it's worth following her, filming her and shouting the same phrases over and over...
the_leprechauns_anus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It clicked a nano-second before I read your commment.
UsagiMimi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:27:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She may very well be neurodiverse, this sort of manipulative behavior is certainly an indicator. If that is the case I honestly hope this woman gets some help because abuse and other things can trigger behavior like this and need to be addressed at some point.
SpookyKid94 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:09:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I can't work, because I have anxiety"
Not even to shame people with anxiety, but there are a shit load of people who refuse to handle stress and opt to claim they are mentally unfit to be a productive member of the market.
WhyYesIWouldVeryMuch ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:17:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An not working due to anxiety, yet can approach random strangers in their car and ask for money. Thought of even asking family members for money gives me anxiety.
idee_fx2 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:22:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah but unless you have a way to get into someone's head, it is not easy to spot the difference.
I went through almost 5 years of anxiety, almost costing me my engineering degree and it put me through almost two years without a job. Now, even after one year being employed without any real anxiety attack, i still feel very hesitant to doubt anyone claiming he has anxiety, even if it was the case of that woman in the video. That shit is the worst.
UsagiMimi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? You're going to say that people are just too sensitive? That's beyond ableist, honestly.
Speaking as someone with multiple anxiety disorders and who is on the autism spectrum who can barely manage work, but has to- And I'll explain why in a moment... Just no. You have no idea what anxiety is like, the same goes for depression. You can't just take it away, force it to not be a thing. Force yourself to not feel it. It's not humanely possible. People out there on disability for anxiety and like neurodiversity need that. And I will qualify that as follows.
I was raised by a baptist family, the worst kind. At that I was home schooled 1st - 12th grade. Never went to a doctor, never got exposure. I got out of there as soon as I could. It was tough, I worked- But I didn't keep work long. I had a full on panic attack that required me to arrive 2 hours before my shift started to be in the right place to go to work on time, and a full on panic attack as soon as I got out of work. Anyway, it wasn't until into my mid 20's when I had a serious suicide attempt that I got actual mental health care and diagnosed as on the Autism Spectrum, as well as diagnosed with PTSD, Social Anxiety Disorder, and Derealization-Depersonalization disorder. Just one of these things should qualify me for disability, so I don't have to face tremendous stress every day, yet I don't qualify. Why not? I have a solid work history. Literally the case against me is "You worked in the past, why can't you work now?"
It's really bloody important to understand there are more people out there facing serious problems and that society does in fact discriminate against specifically those problems. For instance I've been fired for not integrating with a team well- Well guess why? I have autism. I didn't know that at the time, but it's just the simple truth.
On top of all of this is the fact that sure, there may be people able to fake disability to some degree, but it's rather hard to do so because you have to get doctors you don't hire to investigate and test yourself. You have to qualify in a hundred ways people don't know. The only problem with neurodiversity and disability is the fact not enough qualify for it, nor is there enough support for it.
In regards to the lady in the video, regardless of neurodiversity or not- Manipulation isn't okay and she should be dealt with. Likely at least have some out patient mental health care mandated.
rjcarr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering she looked pretty fit and her shirt talked about "training", I'd guess you'd have to be correct, or someone would have another good fraud case against her.
J-Unleashed ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:44:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow... this woman is vile. This is no prediction, it's a wish.
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:48:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Two stories, each with their own lesson. If you read the first story, please be sure to read the second story:
In the downtown area of the city in which I live there is a guy that I see regularly asking for money and he always has a sob story and often claims he's a vet. He asked me for money for food once and we just happened to be outside of a restaurant, so I tell him that he can come into the restaurant with me and that I'd buy him a meal. He said no and that he wasn't allowed in the restaurant. I told him that I'd buy him something from the Jimmy Johns next door and he said no and that he just wanted something from McDonalds (which was about a mile away). I was on my bike, so I told him I would ride down to McDonalds and pick him something up and bring it back to him. He said, "Really, I'm just looking for some money." and I told him that I couldn't do that and then we went our separate ways.
(((KEEP READING)))
Story 2. My apartment overlooks a bus station. For the past three nights a woman of around 55 years old has been sleeping there. She's obviously homeless, has the accompanying two bags of all of her worldly possessions, etc. I decided to make sure she got some food Friday night and I brought over a PBJ sandwich, some cookies, peanuts and banana. She was nervous around me, but said thanks. The next day I brought her some more food and a large bottle of water. Saturday night was pretty cold where I live and when I looked out my kitchen window I saw that all she had was a coat to keep her warm. Well, I had a blanket that my employer gave me for Christmas last year and I almost never use it, so I took it out to the woman and gave it to her. Sunday, I took her some food and talked to her for a little bit and she asks me, "Why are you being nice to me," with genuine surprise that anyone would be helping her. That fucking ripped my guts out. What kind of a world do we live in where someone is surprised that another human being would make sure they got some food for the day? I have plenty. I can spare a sandwich and piece of fruit or even a blanket for another person from time to time.
Don't let the scammers keep you from being generous to those in need. Empathy is a virtue. Be smart with how you help, but please help.
xts2500 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:40:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Omaha and we've had a major increase in panhandlers over the last couple of years. People don't even try to hide that they don't need the money, half the time they're dressed better than I am and they have their North Face back packs with them. Many of them have gotten smart though, instead of panhandling in the city they go to the intersections near interstate exits so they can work the people who are traveling the interstate and aren't familiar with them. If they worked the same intersections in the city then people would wise up quickly and they would stop making money.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:17:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stop involving random people in your shit. McDonalds workers aren't negotiators and don't want to deal with your shit. If you don't want to talk to someone, just stop talking to them and walk away.
Abe_Vigoda ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:36:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drive a piece of shit car that doesn't work quite right and I can't afford to get it fixed. Fuck everything about this lady.
SamuraiGalactus ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 17:03:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My next door neighbors do this, They haven't been doing it as regularly so I haven't been able to figure out their schedule yet. I live in Toronto and a few years ago I went to the local exhibition we have here the CNE, it's like a big fair with rides and games and shows and stuff. Basically the neighboring area gets crowded with beggers, there are some legit buskers performing and stuff but it's mostly homeless people just sitting there on a blanket with hat. Saw my neighbor sitting there once begging for change. He's kind of fucked in the head though and is definitely disabled but the rest of his family joins in the fun. His mother also begs in the city and I believe there is another brother but I'm not sure he lives with them anymore. I should also mention that my neighborhood isn't cheap, were talking million dollar homes.
tamtam528 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 17:24:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing happens here on the NYC subway. I saw one guy begging for money one day with dirty/old clothes. The next day saw him at my stop, all dressed up and wearing his Jordan's counting a wad of cash he pulled out from his pocket.
sweetcuppingcakes ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:09:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe the day you saw him was the best panhandling he's ever had
heyenikin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hahahah, I was going to say exactly this.
CapnCanfield ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:37:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was in a pizza place around the corner from my apartment in Midtown, and a homeless looking guy comes in, and hands me a price of paper claiming he is deaf, and in need of help. I immediately knew he was full of shit, seeing as how after he handed me the note he waved his arms and made sounds indicating more that he was mentally handicapped over deaf. Before I could even refuse though, the owner of the pizza shop comes out from behind the counter and says "dont give this piece of shit anything, he's not even really deaf." As soon as he said that, the guy booked it out of the pizza place.
fightoffyourdemons- ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 18:39:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find these "confronting and filming strangers" videos so stressful.
mistercherrymann ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 18:40:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure that laziness is considered a disability. This is the reason you don't give money to these people on the side of the road. There are avenues for you to help the ACTUAL homless. This only makes the problem worse when people can make more money from sincere, honest, good hearted people, than from being a productive contributing member of society.
[deleted] ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 17:16:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course she's from fucking Maryland...
tetshi ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 17:18:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey hey! I'm from Maryland.... andddd I can confirm this all checks out. Carry on.
i_stay_turnt ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:53:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm also from Maryland. I am outraged that both of you failed to mention that this shit happens daily.
dbx99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am not from Maryland although I've visited a few times by way of Washington DC, and I got no strong impression about Maryland other than it seemed like a hot and humid shithole in the summer.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:45:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, an intersection close to where I work rotates 3-4 people every day. Whoever gets there first gets the money I guess. I see different people all the time, many of them wearing clean clothes. Even saw one girl with a purse on her shoulder.
WHO ARE YOU KIDDING?
spankymuffin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from Maryland but I don't recognize the area. The street sign says "Broad St," which can be anywhere.
Tribal_Tech ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are homeless people not allowed to have a purse to carry around their items?
keggers813 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's so bad in Maryland off the major highways. Near the intersection of 95 and 1 there's always about 5 or 6 out at a time.
RonaldSilks ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:11:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a growing issue in the West End of Richmond. So much so that police have put up signs at the intersections with a phone number for help for anyone begging for money, also demanding them to not stand in the median. They do so anyway, and people still hand them money while they're literally standing under the signs.
In one area of the west end (corner of Broad and Pump), there's a gentleman I saw there every day with a small puppy that was kept in a backpack while he panhandled. Even on days where it was nearing 100 degrees he was out there, with this poor dog(the dog had thick black hair at that). That's kind of where I draw the line - obviously using a puppy to garner sympathy.
I was standing behind the guy in the 7-11 on the corner one night when that very guy was ahead of me in line with the dog's head sticking out of his back up. I reached up to pet him and he bit me actually. Didn't break any skin and wasn't major but broke my heart because I know as soon as the dog's services are no longer needed for the panhandler, he'll probably just be left to run free and end up sheltered or in the pound.
svm_invictvs ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:26:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And he held the camera correctly!
skittlesaddict ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:06:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no shame
cornycomic ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:24:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
shits viral yo
justfortheprize ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:03:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"stupid" - I train while you sleep
Schroder8823 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:39:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please, never ever give money to panhandlers. Don't do it, don't let anyone you know it, it's just not a good idea.
romansixx ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 17:06:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People like this ruin it for legit homeless in my mind. I just assume they are all faking it. After seeing one dude power slam the burger i gave him after i drove off, it's been a long line of i don't care anymore.
yourbraindead ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:21:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
its like people will ask me for bus money here all the time. If you really are stuck somewhere i have really no problem giving you a few euros to get home. Really this is a fucked situation and i would help you. But i hear the same stories everytime they need to catch a bus blaablaa. I even give money on a regular basis if i think this person is really in need for some food or stuff but the fact that you lied to me makes me angry and you wont get anything. And it makes me angry that if i ever happen to lose my wallet in a town that is not mine i feel like nobody would be believe me if i would ask for a bus ticket or smth. They really ruin it for people that are legit in problematic situations.
wastesHisTimeSober ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:19:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We saw the same guy who'd "run out of gas" as he was going to a town a half hour north for a couple of weeks outside my work. The first day, my coworker gave him money. We'd still walk by him selling the same story. He even made the mistake of trying to ask the same coworker a few days later.
There's always some emergency factor with this one like, "I've got my daughter with me," or, "I need to take my mom to the hospital," or whatever else makes it seem like this needs to happen right now and your help is essential.
InSixFour ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:37:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work delivering pizzas. Had a guy in a minivan roll up behind the restaurant asking for gas money. His wife was in the passenger seat. He was saying they needed to be somewhere like 100 miles away for something(l don't remember what). I told him no because I've been scammed before with similar stories. Then he says his wife has been crying all night and they don't know what they were going to do. I said I don't know either but I'm sure you can call someone to help you I even offered to let him use my phone. He said he couldn't call anyone. Then he started talking about how they were christians and blah blah blah. So I firmly but nicely said, no I'm not going to give you money. I don't know you. Then I told him there were 3 churches nearby and that I'm sure they'd be more than willing to help a fellow Christian out. He then got all pissy with me and tore out of the parking lot.
I felt bad for awhile afterward but the more I thought about it the more angry I was at the guy. Like I'm some how responsible for him and his wife? I'm not the one who left on a long trip without enough gas money. I gave him plenty of legitimate options to help him out. But I'm the bad guy? Fuck him and his wife.
Jewboy86 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:12:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm curious...when you give money to a "real homeless person" do you think that money you gave them is going towards saving up to buy a house? Or to rent an apartment? I guess if you actually think that, I can understand your anger towards her.
Reality is, 90% of those "real homeless" people that you give money to are not using it for anything other than a quick "fix". Whether that is a bite to eat, drugs, alcohol, etc.
Shes no worse than every begger in my opinion. Quite frankly, I'd rather give my money to her than a "real homeless person" who sits in the same subway every single day begging for money to fund their drinking habit.
JoeyDee86 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:14:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately most of them are not homeless.
There was a woman once in Lake Worth Florida that had a sign telling a story how her husband and children were killed when their house burned down and now they have nothing.
The following week I saw her out there with a man where both had signs saying their CHILDREN burned alive in their house fire.
Karma needs to catch up with some people...
screwjakk ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:37:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exposed.... Nice work
MR2FTW ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:38:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saw her post up for her "shift" on Saturday morning at Glenside and Broad. Lady is a total fake.
Mendican ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:52:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I encounter a regular corner-dweller, who begs professionally, I always offer to buy a cigarette. It's a perfect arrangement: they get money, I get the satisfaction of helping them, plus cancer.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:36:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this shit gets me mad because I know a lady who lives in a house, 3/2 with her 2 children, and every day she is out on the corner 3 blocks away begging up money. The city is big enough that you'd never know she is a home owner probably worth at least $400,000. Her kids are druggie con artist as well but they travel further into the city to scam people.
She probably collects anywhere between $30-50/hr at a busy intersection. She is there regularly so people assume she is "homeless" in the area, people sometimes get out and stand next to her with their own signs that say "NOT HOMELESS" and drive her away but eventually she comes back because of the high traffic at the corner.
It's a kick in the face to the real homeless in the area.
ExBroBob ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:15:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the most important take-away is that if you feel compassion for people that don't have anything, your donation is better utilized by giving directly to local organizations that help the homeless directly, like a shelter. That completely eliminates having to wonder whether an individual, who could be a scammer is just taking free money. It reasonably ensures your money is used for actually helping people that need it. Scammers don't use shelters.
throwawaythumbsup ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:52:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
looks like andy dick
SlipperyStep ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:05:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Virginia on the front page twice today? That's it I'm moving
bstanley824 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:16:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I bark wherever I want to bark" Quote of the year.
SoupCanVaultboy ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:16:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMG, I've seen something like this. I completely froze not out of surprise but more confusion as to why you would.
I parked up in the car park by the Oracle car park in Reading a while back. I walked through the alley to the main town and spotted a homeless person mostly covered by a throw. I asked him if he wanted a sub, (I know, I'm the douche who doesn't give money but I was going to get food anyway) so I got him a subway that's over the bridge. I came back and gave him his sub etc and went on with my day.
5 hours later...
Finished hanging with my friends and snooping the Magic cards at the Eclectic Games store. I was walking back when I notice this guy wearing fairly nice clothes holding a cover of sorta getting into Jaguar F type. I carried on walking closer as it was in open sided car park where I parked and I recognised IT WAS THE FUCKING HOMELESS GUY!!! sucks cause now I feel hesitant to give stuff, I thought I was doing something nice. I was feeding some guy who clearly has money.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:39:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha I bet this is a McDonalds ad.
herBurner ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:55:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao I love her thought process.
"I need someone but not a cop. Let me just act like a woman being followed by men and not a scam artist and hopefully someone can call the cops on these guys for harassing a woman."
Omnipotent_Manimal ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:38:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope this trend of exposing phonies continues.
Chance_Wylt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's entertaining and informative! It may have also even inspired me to go out and play detective on my day off. Better than sitting at home on Reddit all day. I'll just sit in the car on Reddit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
Omnipotent_Manimal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure. But if there isn't one, there certainly should be.
FantasticPeace319 ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 16:55:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"someone is going to end up killing you" threatening people's life doesn't sound smart...๏ปฟ
MrAlpha0mega ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:52:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you copy this comment off youtube?
larrythefatcat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, it's fine because they have a disability.
DChalo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:29:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol I SAW THAT TOO
dbx99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your comment has been locked down for copyright infringement by RUN DMCA
MrAlpha0mega ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Excuse me, what exactly did you think was going to happen here, why don't you just walk this way,
Crosseyeaccount ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically i don't think it would count as a threat since she isn't saying that she will be the cause of any harm that could come to them. The fact that she said that makes me think she really does have a mental disability.
Generico300 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 18:05:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clues that this person is not homeless:
1) It's a woman. The vast majority of actual homeless people are men.
2) She's not wearing or carrying all her clothes and her clothes look like they've been washed fairly recently.
3) She appears to have energy. Real homeless people do not jog. When you don't necessarily get to eat every day you don't waste energy jogging.
4) She looks like she has showered at least once in the last 2 weeks or so. Spending most of your time in the elements makes you rather dirty, and not owning a shower makes it a bit harder to shower regularly.
5) She has nice white shoes. Homeless people's shoes are generally beat to hell.
6) She's wearing fucking yoga pants. Real homeless people do not wear yoga pants. Seriously people. How the fuck is she fooling anyone?
[deleted] ยท -56 points ยท Posted at 18:33:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who cares? Just don't give her money if you don't think it's a good use of your money... You don't have to chase her around with a camera and exploit her on the internet
milecai ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:39:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
expose*
[deleted] ยท -51 points ยท Posted at 18:40:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no, she's not as poor as I think she should be!
Do you know how many people make money dishonestly? Why are you blaming a woman begging on the street for anything when you have no clue what her story is besides the fact that her car is nicer than yours? Do you really think she would be panhandling in the road if she had a reasonable option otherwise? Is it that her method of making money isn't as hard as you think yours is, or that she makes more than you for 'less work'? Recognize jealousy when you see it, in others and yourself. Use your head.
saviorcoffee ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:17:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I never give to anyone. To the truly needy, I apologize, but people like the woman ruin it for everyone else.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:17:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
DialSquare84 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:19:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plot twist: Your BF bought his shoes back.
chuckrodi ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:21:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from Richmond VA and unfortunately this thing happens all the time. On multiple occasions I've seen people park their cars, walk down the street and beg for change. It's a horrible practice that needs to be stopped.
I think the issue is giving in to pan handlers. Instead you should donate your money or time to local establishments that help the homeless. I've been guilty of giving in to pan handlers and still do occasionally. So maybe I should listen to my own advice before preaching.
One time I gave a homeless dude an apple and he threw it on the ground yelling I don't want your f'in apple!
GozoGun ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:30:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The woman at the drive through's perplexed expression throughout the entire ordeal was fantastic.
fuckinsuckdick ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:36:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
she will never be convinced that she's wrong. there are so many people like this in the world
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:27:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a disgusting bitch. Just take your L, honey. I hope everyone in Richmond knows her face now.
Defenestraitorous ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:30:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You misspelled "miserable piece of shit."
Kozlow ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:38:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All she had to say was that she lives in the car.
TangAlpha ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:35:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Years ago, my uncle would see the same guy standing at the freeway off-ramp begging for money as he'd drive home from work everyday. He said that something just felt "off" with this guy and that he didn't believe he was actually homeless. One evening on his commute home, he gets off at his exit and sure enough, the guys is there, begging as always. So my uncle decides to finally give into his itch and play detective. He pulls into a Walgreens parking lot adjacent to the off-ramp and watches the homeless guy for another couple hours or so until the guy decides to leave. Sure enough, my uncle watches this dude walk straight over to the same walgreens parking lot and pull out car keys to some SUV. After following this guy for 5 minutes, it turns out, this "homeless" guy lived two streets behind my uncle's house. As the SUV approached a house, it pulled into the driveway and the guy just walked right in.
I remember my uncle saying how shocked he really was, and just sat there dumbfounded. I don't think he wanted his suspicions to be true, but seeing it unfold before his eyes was pretty unbelievable. To this day, my uncle refuses to give money to any homeless person on the street, he'll give food if he has it, but money is a no-no for him.
Pretty crazy, but I'm sure this is happening on a daily basis throughout the country.
Alienthehuman ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:38:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She has a rare disability called damnigotcaughtoutitis
It's unfortunate but many "homeless" people suffer from it.
nwo97 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:38:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe that she doesn't have a disability because from my experience of being caught doing something completely wrong and knowing it is completely wrong I become very frantic and start saying and doing things that otherwise would not make sense to someone who isn't in my brain. So I'm assuming, she got caught and was very embarrassed and scared of what was going to happen to her so her brain goes into overdrive and tries to resolve the situation but it completely just lacks coherent sense when she speaks.
cougar2013 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:09:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's Transeconomic you fucking hateful normie pieces of shit
Grungus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:45:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a scumbag. Don't understand why people hand out money to random idiots on the street. Seems like a good way to support someone's drug habits.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:08:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she actually has a disability and receives help from the government, would panhandling be considered fraud?
mothernatureisfickle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if she makes something like over $200 or $300 a month and does not report it as income.
The SSDI people take extra income VERY seriously - as they should. What most people don't realize is they can still work while on SSDI and they are actually encouraged to as long as the job won't make their disability worse and they are honest about how much money they make. I believe the amount of benefits are just adjusted accordingly.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:29:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That car is a 2016 model.
SeattleDeplorable ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:32:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kudos to the guys that made her sorry ass go viral
anjelloh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:35:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
appreciate you exposing this truth. I see this a lot in Richmond, it can be very frustrating at times
Fendisaoming ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:37:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stay classy Richmond!
Robigo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:39:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sir arthur conan doyle would be proud.. she is the woman with the twisted lip.
Adolph_Fitler ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:51:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice butt for a homeless lady.
6502programmer ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:26:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Over the last month I became a victim of a clever scam while out shopping. Simply going out to get supplies has turned out to be quite traumatic. Don't be naive enough to think it couldn't happen to you.
Here's how the scam works:
Two seriously good-looking 18 or 19-year-old girls come over to your car as you are packing your shopping into the trunk. They both start wiping your windshield with a rag and Windex, with their breasts almost falling out of their skimpy T-shirts. It is impossible not to look.
When you thank them and offer them a tip, they say "No" and instead ask you for a ride to another Home Depot. You agree and they get in the back seat. On the way, they start having sex with each other. Then one of them climbs over into the front seat and performs oral sex on you, while the other one steals your wallet.
I had my wallet stolen May 4th, 9th, 10th, twice on the 15th, 17th, 20th, 21st, three times just yesterday, and very likely again this upcoming weekend as soon as I can buy some more wallets.
rukioish ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:29:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
came here for arguments about the law, left with a good joke and a boner. 11/10
MasterKey2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like you need a case of wallets. Maybe a whole pallet of wallets.
ultrasaurustooth ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:26:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a rental car she has. It's got the scan code for Enterprise right on the driver front window.
everydaylowvices ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:10:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I need an adult!"
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:22:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in a pretty small town (25,000 people.) There's a weird homeless cabal in my town. Like, it's all the same people, but sometimes they have each others signs, like there's a sign repository, and they just grab one from the pile. Apparently, there's like a head "beggar" and he collects a cut from each of them.
TreChomes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:09:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How many more years until people realize its not illegal to film people in public lmao
nate-x ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:29:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her response is evidence of her disability. No rational person goes to the drive thru and knocks when someone's taping them. She could've just got in the car and driven off. She clearly has some issues.
BradyGustavo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:39:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not only is she dishonest to do this, it ruins it for the people that actually need money. There was someone in our neighborhood who was begging for change who shouldn't have been like her. Now, I can't give money to anyone because I don't know what their situation is.
superhuman117 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:39:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People do this all the time in Canada. Dirty Panhandlers. Specifically the ones who walk up to your car while at lights. Actual homeless tend to not bother and put cups/signs out. A buddy of mine is a cop and confirmed a few of the people I see regularly have a house/rent and can generate, in some situations, $50k a year of untaxed dollars. Which in Canada means basically a salary of $75k a year....
HeyBayBeeUWanTSumFuk ยท 231 points ยท Posted at 16:16:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All this videos reveals is that she drives a Fiat. She still could technically be homeless.
๐๏ธ SK_RVA ยท 414 points ยท Posted at 16:26:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She asked person filming if he think one needs to be homeless to panhandle. Yet her sign says she is. She looks clean and nice clothes/nice car, no way she is homeless.
borristehbear ยท 267 points ยท Posted at 16:36:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been homeless with a car and managed to bathe everyday. Granted, I didn't panhandle because I was busy with school and looking for a job, but my point is there's a misconceived notion that all homeless people are dirty and unkempt looking. They're not. You may have encountered a homeless person and didn't know.
zorroz ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:10:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately this is highly accurate. I've seen so many people wear buissness suits and you'd never know they were homeless. People with child support payments and a student loan actively looking for full time work for example.
๐๏ธ SK_RVA ยท 133 points ยท Posted at 16:42:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see what you are saying, and I think that is sometimes true, but not in this case. She basically admits she isn't. I am torn on the whole thing because when I see people begging, I kind of feel like "at least they aren't stealing and victimizing people or being a prostitute." But this woman really seems to be taking advantage of people by deceiving them.
silverfox762 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:40:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it just me or does no one else know that people can have a newer car and still be homeless? I own a 2011 Camry and have for 4 years. It was a gift from a family member who wanted a new car and could afford to give away the older one. If I lost my job or had another bout of pneumonia, I'd be living in the damned thing. If I lost my job 5 years ago, I'd have a two year old Toyota Camry AND be living in the damned thing.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
silverfox762 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:37:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What people here are neglecting to think about is that minimum wage jobs, which are generally available, don't pay as much as panhandling. I'm a skilled craftsman in a very skill specific job that pays well. And I live in the SF Bay Area making a decent living, but I'm absolutely broke at the end of each month. I'm paying $2500/month rent on a house I don't own. That's $30,000/year in rent alone. Add insurance and utilities and my monthly bills before things like groceries, gas, car repairs/tires/oil-change/etc and cell phone are over $3500/month. Exactly how much is my "wealthy" relative supposed to "help me out"? Maybe I got help for one month and that $5000 is now gone 6 weeks later.
There's a hundred reasons why someone would be out on the street, perfectly healthy looking and broke. I have a spine injury that leaves in debilitating pain 24/7. If it wasn't for Obamacare I wouldn't have health insurance to pay for the pain meds that give me my life back.
So there's ALWAYS a reason this gal may well NOT be what OP says she is.
xxBeatrixKiddoxx ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:25:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always always give money to young people with signs like "hitchin across the US" or whatever. Young people just experiencing life. They get my money always. I respect that honesty.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:41:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
wastesHisTimeSober ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:51:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Generally people assign accountability for a deception to the deceiver, not the deceived.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:16:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So since the "product" she is selling is fake/lies/deceit, then would you be ok with Snake Oil salesman and other scammers not being prosecuted or held accountable when their "product" turns out to be a fraud? I think that's the point that's trying to be made here. What she is selling is a lie. If we don't allow others to do it in other ways, why is it ok for her to defraud people using emotional manipulation instead of fraudulent market data or a fake product?
fllr ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:20:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The difference being she is not "selling" anything... It it entirely up to you to give your money to her, or not. This is a donation, not a purchase.
rogwilco ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:36:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She is being fraudulent. This isn't a hard concept. She is withholding information that would otherwise influence a person's decision on whether or not to give her money. That is fraud.
It not only hurts the donor, but those that actually do need the help. She took money that could have gone to someone actually starving (opportunity cost) and is contributing to a chilling effect that discourages people from giving out spare change under skepticism that the beggar actually needs the help.
Most people feel empathy and would gladly fund a hungry person's next meal. Many of those same people would not be interested in helping some random woman make her car payment this month, on a car newer than the one they are driving no less.
Flashthunder ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 17:01:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get the point on confronting her. To shame her? She's already doing basically the most shameful thing in America, begging. %99.999 of people don't want to beg, so this guy assumes he's found the %.001 that is cheating the system. That's a big assumption Imo
imnotmarvin ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:26:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would agree that people who beg out of genuine need probably feel shame beyond what most of us will experience. However, I think people who beg to run a con probably don't feel shame at all; they're probably laughing to themselves every time someone buys it.
captionUnderstanding ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:36:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would say this. The shame I think comes from knowing you have nowhere else to turn to but the help of others and then physically showing that to thousands of people by asking them for help. If you're conning people, you know you don't need to be doing that, so the shame isn't really there.
oc_starships ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 17:10:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This number looks very scientific. Do you have a source for that?
Flashthunder ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:27:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's just my life experience. I'm not an expert on homelessness. Often on reddit and elsewhere when people talk about begging it's the humiliating lowest part of thier life.
Buffmonkey00 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:45:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I was homeless , I wouldn't be driving a 2014 car. Idk. She seems fishy the way she handled it. She didn't even try to explain or reason it.
PoopEndeavor ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:33:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another misconception: that homeless people must be deferential to others, otherwise they are lying. That they "owe" the world an explanation (which in many cases would mean outing themselves as LGBTQ, rape victims, psychologicallly disabled, drug addicted, etc.). Being homeless doesn't mean you necessary lose all sense of dignity.
It's true that telling a story may get them more sympathy money, but keep in mind this isn't someone asking to hear her story over lunch. This is two strange guys she doesn't know walking up to her threateningly with a camera. I'm not surprised she didn't want to tell them her personal details whether or not she's "guilty."
Idk if the woman in question is actually homeless or not, but her attitude alone doesn't rule it out.
goatpunchtheater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:35:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay think about this. You start out begging when you really need it. You start making decent money doing it. A couple years pass. You don't need to do it anymore, but it became a crutch. You don't have the experience to do something that pays more. You have a two year break in employment, so even if you are qualified for something decent, it'd be tough justifying it. I could see how this could easily become difficult to get out of.
PoopEndeavor ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:33:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another misconception: that homeless people must be deferential to others, otherwise they are lying. That they "owe" the world an explanation (which in many cases would mean outing themselves as LGBTQ, rape victims, psychologicallly disabled, drug addicted, etc.). Being homeless doesn't mean you necessary lose all sense of dignity.
It's true that telling a story may get them more sympathy money, but keep in mind this isn't someone asking to hear her story over lunch. This is two strange guys she doesn't know walking up to her threateningly with a camera. I'm not surprised she didn't want to tell them her personal details whether or not she's "guilty."
Idk if the woman in question is actually homeless or not, but her attitude alone doesn't rule it out.
ByCriminy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've lived on the streets. Not ashamed of it at all, just another cross to bear, and a hurdle to be overcome, which I did. It helped make me who I am today. Why should I be ashamed of it? If I had not asked for help, I'd likely still be there.
Edit: Sigh. Downvoted, but no reasons why. What is it that I said that you disagree with?
Flashthunder ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:07:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glad you got through it! I'm not saying people should be ashamed, just that people get shamed. This thread is proof that the public at large has very negative views of begging.
ByCriminy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh. Then I see your point.
Gen_McMuster ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My life experience is the opposite so that should show you the representative power of anecdotes or lack thereof
OutbreakMonkey ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:40:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This source is as good as any other anecdote in these comments.
Cosmic_Ostrich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It won't do much good, %88 of statistics are made up on the spot.
SauronDidNothingRong ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:10:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least you're optimistic.
freeze123901 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk, selling that $20,000 car to get a little money for rent and a down payment seems like the more optimal thing to do than beg don't you? I mean she can get a cheaper car that will serve the same purpose. She's voluntarily out there begging for cash when she's got it.
CommieLoser ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:08:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it's important to have this anecdote, so we don't have to feel so depressed about the reality of homelessness.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly it doesn't cause shame for her. Every dollar she pockets is a theft, because people are giving it to here based on a lie.
She's a scam artist, pure and simple.
Flashthunder ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:14:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps that car is the only possession she has. People can have possessions and still be homeless. I was living out of my car for a bit a while back and it was the thin thread that kept me from turning into a feral dog living under a bridge.
rogwilco ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:25:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The problem of course, is that she has an asset worth many thousands of dollars. She spends her time parking that car, and going to ask other people for their money. Why should anyone give her their money if she's unwilling to make a sacrifice as simple as selling her car, and buying something less expensive? Why should anyone give somebody money that isn't being truthful to them?
I don't want to give a homeless person money so they don't have to sell their late model Fiat. Too many people don't even know where their next meal will come from for me to be wasting my money on somebody else's car payment.
I get that you're advocating for giving people the benefit of the doubt, that's honorable and I commend you for it. But at some point there's so much evidence that somebody isn't being truthful, that it becomes important to be a voice for those that actually do need the help.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:23:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That car is nearly new. She could sell it, use public transit, and get a place to live with the proceeds.
That's if I believed she was homeless, which I do not.
She should stop begging and go in that McDonalds and get a job.
CommunismWillTriumph ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:30:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, so sell your car so you can pay for rent for a few months only to end up completely homeless again?
If you end up unemployed and own a car it makes no sense to liquidate the car just to throw money into rent. An automobile holds value and even if it breaks down can be used as a reliable source of shelter. Paying rent on the other hand is just burning money away for temporary relief.
tattlerat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A car that new she's likely still making significant payments on it. It's basically the same issue either way. Selling the car would net her enough profit to float for a bit and find a place to live or a job if she were really unemployed due to situations outside her control. If she doesn't sell the car everything she earns panhandling is likely to go towards paying for the car lest a repo agency show up and take it and she gets no value out of it.
Jesus_Harold_Christ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This woman has no shame.
billionaire_ballsack ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:15:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you made this video, you should be ashamed.
Cash does help people: https://www.odi.org/sites/odi.org.uk/files/resource-documents/10748.pdf
These douchey cameramen assume to know everything about her... While they will probably get paid soon for youtube views and the internet laughs and insults. Disgusting behavior.
Look again, there is no proof at all that is actually her car. That shirt she is wearing, could easily be from goodwill.
ITT: hundreds of people being disrespectful to other human beings so it makes themselves feel better about their own financial situation. Does anyone stop to actually think "Well gee, we don't really know what her situation really is do we?" No. Shame on you all. Nobody stops to even consider why people like her might be forced to go out there? We point and laugh and blame and insult- as if she is some kind of subhuman - it's sick. Meanwhile the youtube video is probably going to be making easy cash while this lady who could genuinely have major problems - is aggressively harassed.
It's not "women like this" who are a problem with society. It's "videos like this" and people who laugh and make themselves feel better about their own financial position - that is the problem with society.
bakdom146 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:22:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, they are stealing. It's stealing if I tell you I'm collecting money for a charity and keep it, and it's stealing if I tell you I'm homeless and need money for food and go buy an Xbox with it, at least to the extent that fraud = theft. Taking money through force and money through deception aren't very different.
jrobinson3k1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Manipulating your emotions, especially under false pretenses, to get money is still stealing imo.
LeahaP1013 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:35:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But she is stealing. She is victimizing. And she is selling herself- maybe not for sex, but she's selling her "story"
OneFatTurkey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:(
Grogslog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can see that, my plan if I ever become homeless, is to live out of my car, and get a gym membership. I can do laundry at a landromat, take showers and work out at 24 hour and sleep in my car. Probably would be able to do more without having to pay rent each month if I started living like that. Dog probably wouldnt enjoy it though.
Inspace96 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 17:46:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She can downgrade her car and be looking for a job but is panhandling instead.
The problem isn't that she's homeless, it's that she's panhandling when she shouldn't.
[deleted] ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 16:40:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This
69KennyPowers69 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:20:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she's homeless with a car she can be driving around applying for jobs and not standing on that corner often enough to be recognized.
Mr_Tugboat ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:49:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know this doesn't apply to like 99% of the homeless populous but just for shits and giggles: My uncle, who is an amazing person, was in between housing and was currently making close to 100k a year, he had this big van that he sorta retro fitted to be a much much smaller trailer...long story short he got a gym membership to cover the hygiene deficiency without a home... He did this for about 18 months before he found a place he liked. got in great shape, spent a lot of time with family and friends because he didn't have a "home" to watch TV and be bored at, and was in all honesty just in a great place. He was technically homeless despite looking and feeling great
UnoriginalRhetoric ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 16:41:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Day centers with showers and clothes donations, and owning a car.
I work with a lot of homeless people and that evidence is super circumstantial.
wastesHisTimeSober ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not so much the objective evidence that marks her as not legitimately homeless as much as the woman's behavior. She never really made an attempt to deny it. She just makes every effort to remove the business problem in whatever way she can think of.
UnoriginalRhetoric ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:29:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, that also isnt really evidence, it's actually kind of evidence to the contrary.
I would expect a fully able person to be a better liar.
wastesHisTimeSober ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:39:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We don't have much real evidence to work with here. It's all speculation. I don't really see this as evidence to the contrary though. There are a lot of reasons she might not handle an unexpected confrontation well.
Goleeb ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree the car, and all that seems like circumstantial evidence. Though the way she expects everyone else to take care of these guys for her seems like someone who is pampered. I assume a women that has spent sometime homeless would know how do deal with people harassing her. That too though is circumstantial.
UnoriginalRhetoric ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:30:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not if they are recently homeless, or is actually disabled either cognitively or psychiatricly.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a subset of people that literally do this type of living. One subculture is called van-living.
EatATaco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a link to her sign? I didn't see it in the video. All I saw was a claim that she was "being aggressive" because she was slowly shaking the sign.
GoiterGlitter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't mean in thing unless you put your own inference on it. Asking that question doesn't mean it's about her or her reasons. There's not any proof here. Just two men following a woman around a parking lot yelling at her.
Gr1pp717 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still. Being jobless and struggling is good enough IMO. Trying not to become homeless/starve. Why wait until you're fully dug into that hole to start asking for help? I know if I found myself suddenly unable to eat, or risking getting evicted, I would have no problem with begging.
StaplerLivesMatter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're clairvoyant to judge a person's entire life, including specific financial information, by how they look on a given day?
Orval ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't recall seeing what her sign says one time. Just saying.
eleemosynary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention her sparkling white full set of teeth.
OutbreakMonkey ยท 154 points ยท Posted at 16:50:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I think the rage here risks hurting folks that need to resort to begging others for a handout in order to make ends meet.
As you say,life can be shit (or on the cusp of becoming shit) even if you aren't homeless.Maybe this lady is 100% fake, publicising her scam does little more than anger up the blood of viewers (she pissed me off too [edit: then I realised I don't know her true circumstances or backstory]). But considering this video doesn't really hurt her (is it really likely that her or the 'victims' are going to see this?), what the point?
The rage over the odd "million dollar mansion faker" story helps justify a "fuck this guy" attitude towards all of the less fortunate - not necessarily from all rational viewers, but a good chunk (I'll wager) want to be able to feel that all beggars are scammers. It sure does feel better to think that way!
Edit: removed "as you say". Don't want to put words in your mouth. Sorry
Edit 2: and to those saying she's mentally ill not homeless, should was say "well fuck her, out here living the 'good life' on someone else's dime"? Maybe her sign does lie, but perhaps a sign saying "open your window and give me money I'm mentally ill" just doesn't connect with people in the same way.
While I'm at it. Who knows the integrity and motivation of these citizen journalists? Harassing her because what she's doing "is wrong" might not capture the full story.
All I'm saying is get off your rage horses, have a little perspective. Whenever I feel the rage (I did when I first watched), try to find a reasonable explanation. Going through life assuming everyone is a scammy cunt (although this lady might be) isn't conducive to improving the world.
wastesHisTimeSober ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An effective local marketing campaign might have more impact than you think. Of course, she could just find a new spot, but moving is a bitch.
Mr_HandSmall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:29:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A marketing campaign over a fake homeless person scam? lol
noodlz05 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:09:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And one of those viewers might be someone who has done this on occasion, or may be thinking about doing it. If it stops even one person from pulling this shit then I'd say that's a victory.
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:26:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:44:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it's way more likely to perpetuate the insane idea that every single begging or on welfare has a Mercedes and makes 6 figures gaming the system.
noodlz05 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good point, but I think either way you slice it the homeless are getting less money than they should. If you don't make people aware, the amount of scammers are going to continue to increase and take money from people who really need it. If you make people aware of the scammers, they're going to be more cautious as a result and be a bit more selective of who they give their money to.
I think these scammers are already much more prevalent than you think (at least it is here), and it's going to continue being an issue until it stops being lucrative for them, or there are consequences for doing it. I'd rather that people are aware of it so that they're directing their money to shelters and such where you know it's going to be put to good use.
OutbreakMonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the sprit! No one left behind!
Edit: do I need the /s ?
StaplerLivesMatter ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:52:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can live in your car, but you can't drive your house to work. If it's paid for and it runs, why get rid of it?
Could_Be_Your_Father ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:29:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So sell the car that's worth $20k, pay for rent for a year, get a shitty old car that runs, then try to start working again.
She's in great physical shape, clean, driving a car worth 2 years rent. Stop trying to defend shitty people.
whinecube ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She does not deny that she is not homeless.
himynameisjay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at the sticker in the window. It's a rental Fiat so we can't even say she regularly drives the Fiat.
Futhermucker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i've never been homeless. i've also never been able to afford a car newer than 1994. that fiat was at least 20 grand.
Grimpler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When most people think of homeless, they don't think about people having cars. Most real homeless would consider sleeping in a car on par with staying a 5-star hotel.
tomdarch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was pretty wussy and unprofessional. Run the license plates, do some research.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:34:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, she doesn't fit into whatever the neckbeard cameraman's idea of what a panhandler should be, so she deserves to be harassed and exploited on the internet?
Gr1pp717 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:49:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
12th comment down is the first reasonable response. What's happened to this site?
edit: Imagine yourself broke, no food and about to be evicted. Just can't quite land a job. Do you sell your car? Move out of your home? Or start begging to prevent that from happening before shit gets out of hand? It actually pisses me off that I even need to explain this. Have some god damned empathy, people...
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*that she likes to place her things on a FIAT that might or might not be hers
Imbigazoid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:36:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Disgusting.
mcoulton ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:54:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the government sees her running to cars while claiming to be disabled, she could lose her check from the government
DeathsIntent96 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:34:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not all disabilities are physical, and not even all physical disabilities affect one's ability to walk/run.
Chance_Wylt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:16:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not all disabilities keep you from working a nine-to-five either. Especially not disabilities that leave you fully capable of driving, able to form coherent sentences, standing for hours on end and jogging from time to time, and manipulating other people around you for cash in a devious, self thought out, scheme.
DeathsIntent96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not defending her, nor commenting on the video at all. Just replying to his comment.
VGBAMF ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:53:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homelessness, panhandling, and being transient are three different things, and I wish we talked about them more clearly and openly.
Panhandlers are often not homeless. When I did daily deposits for my company several years back, my timing often matched up with a nearby panhandler's, who deposited ~$700/day before leaving in a BMW.
Transients are often opportunists who movefrom city to city, looking for the freest ride before settling in. My city has a large transient population filled with people from across the country because of its reputation for providing 3 good meals to the homeless, having space, and low drug enforcement.
Both of these populations are different than people who are genuinely homeless and seeking a path back to getting their feet back under them.
Transients and panhandlers often want minimum work for maximum reward. They don't want a job. A homeless person does. They often aren't interested in being helped into a self-sufficient lifestyle. A homeless person is.
Homeless people rarely beg and are usually be grateful for help received, want sustainable things, and are willing to accept responsibility. Begging is very rare.
Conversely, panhandlers and transients are often aggressive or humorous in their requests for handouts. They will approach people on streets, stand outside bars at 2 in the morning and try to empty wallets, or enter businesses where only teenage girls are working and intimidate them.
The more aggressive and visible someone is, the less likely they are to be in genuine need.
These are my observations from living in a city for 20 years and walking my dog 3X a day and talking to people on my walks. I talked to people on the street often (50% of the time they asked me to give them my dog so they could make more money), and never once met a panhandler in genuine need. Once I gave a guy a sandwich I'm just bought only to watch him walk to the nearest garbage can and throw it away before finding another person.
As a result, I only give to organizations that feed homeless people, not to people on the street. I'm very lucky that great organizations make sure everyone has 3 meals in my city, and I'm happy to support them. We all need food and shelter, but I've had way too many experiences with aggressive panhandling to reward it in any way.
Creativation ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:04:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This so reminds me of the fake gold ring scammer in this video.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:05:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
Matt463789 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I keep boxes of dog biscuits in my car, so if a "homeless" person is using their dog to get sympathy, I give them the biscuits for the dog.
Goats_vs_Aliens ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:14:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To show I am very smart I'll make death threats while being recorded.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:03:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She seems pretty disabled to me- retardation is a disability afterall.
ejhickey ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:13:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How to stop fake homeless people from scamming: don't give anyone begging on the street money. There are enough public and private welfare and assistance programs to take of everyone who is truly in need. The only reason a woman like this is on the street begging for money is because the scam works. Many people feel guilty and hand over money and then think that makes them a good person. Sadly , it does not. It just opens you up to scams which have been going on for years and one viral video from Richmond is not going to stop it. Think of all the people who did NOT see this. I know it is hard for some to believe that people fake poverty to get cash, but that is the real world.
chrispy179 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:29:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is viral advertising getting this complex?
falcon4287 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:31:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goes up to random McDonald's employee- "HALP these guys are herassing meh!"
McDonald's employee- "bitch you make more than I do and don't pay taxes on it, solve your own problems."
astraledge ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:38:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome. That's where I live. ๐
bcuzimadude ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:38:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There have been stories before of "professional panhandlers" making upwards of 100k a year. Which is impressive and disheartening at the same time.
fartjoke69 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 16:35:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, but telling someone they are not disabled is messed up. I have a disability resulting from a traumatic brain injury. I do not look disabled. I continue to work but suffer from constant dizziness and vertigo that makes it very difficult and dangerous to stand for any duration. I'm not saying this woman is or is not disabled, but it is not fair to just decide she isn't because of her nice car and start yelling accusations. Yes, it seems shady and probably is, but she could very well be disabled, as she claims.
Milenkoben ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 16:46:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it was more along the lines of while she was out panhandling her sign says it's because she's homeless, but when confronted about it with her sign folded up, suddenly it's because she's disabled. She just changed her story to fit the moment.
Voixoff ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:58:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It can be two things
Milenkoben ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're correct, COULD be, but pretty unlikely since she immediately tries to divert attention. She's panhandling, in a brand new car while "homeless" actually running up and down the the center median wearing a shirt that says "I train while you sleep"
Her only disability is the lack of ability to see that what she is doing is not ok
you_are_the_product ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:19:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bet the IRS hotline that gives you rewards based on taxes they collect might want to know about her revenue.
Chance_Wylt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:26:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You work, and so could she. Long hours in the Sun and even some intermittent jogging, fully capable of driving and taking part in coherent conversation. She looks to be in shape enough and her shirt shows that she may even like to exercise. She's not an agoraphobic person nor one that suffers from anxiety issues. She simply doesn't seem to be as mentally or physically where she could not hold down a job.
yourbrotherrex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Telling someone they aren't disabled when they claim to be disabled, but in reality are not disabled whatsoever is something you should get a gold star for.
Fuck those lying scumbags.
Nasty-J ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 17:03:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just don't give money to anyone. They're all either scammers or junkies that slow down traffic for us working folk.
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 17:55:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
Klmffeee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:18:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because hes not gullible and see these people for who they are?
Mr_HandSmall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol, now every single homeless person is fake?
Klmffeee ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:31:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of them are pretty easy to tell if you aren't sheltered
stugots85 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 18:07:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, you're a prick.
Magnetobama ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 17:21:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah fuck hungry people, right?! All those hungry people could eat trash, why do they beg me hard-working law-abiding role model citizen with spectacular abs for a dollar!!!!
OMG...
uncoveringlight ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:40:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here's the rule. If they are hungry, give them food.
Iswearitsnotmine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:17:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with this. If they're really hungry they won't turn down a free meal. It's really sad that we have to decide who is really homeless and who isn't. And it's because of people like the lady in the video.
Wonderfart11 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:45:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are homeless shelters and plenty of services in my city for these people. In fact in my city there is a charity that encourages people to give THEM your loose change, rather than the homeless who wont spend it on what they need. I imagine most cities are like this.
Why do you think so many of them get pissed off if you try to give them food? They dont want food. They can get food easily- They want money.
Also my city has a HUGE problem with intersection beggars. Every street corner is littered with them. You hit a red light and one or more person is going to be knocking on your window begging for money. This is not okay. Especially when lots of them have nicer clothing than I do. You can tell the real deal from the fakers- The real deal dont wear nice clean high end brand clothing.
When you give homeless people money you're just making yourself feel better while you enable them to slowly kill themselves. They will NEVER get better if they can tread the water begging for change to feed their addicitons. You are killing them to make yourself feel all fuzzy inside. If you REALLY cared you'd be at a soup kitchen or some other charity dedicated to ACTUALLY helping the homeless, rather than giving them the .50c in your pocket.
Nasty-J ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats exactly the mindset these street hustlers want you to have. These people aren't starving and if they are it's probably because they pissed away their food stamps/ EBT.
PlacentaStew ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:49:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL all homeless people are lazy
phsics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everybody's failures except mine are due to lazyness. Mine are from bad luck.
/s
CosmicVibrations ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:50:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What?
electroze ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:38:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, she feels exposed and vulnerable so she gives them death threats.
wisrd ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:58:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a little scared of going against what seems to be the consensus here, but here goes. I actually know a few homeless people, some through volunteering at a shelter and some because my apartment is near a popular socializing spot for homeless people. I've never met a person who was pretending to be homeless and wasn't, and, while I'm not saying they don't exist, I don't think they're nearly as prevalent as everyone in this thread seems to think they are.
I also do give money to panhandlers regularly. I don't give food unless they specifically ask for it (which does happen sometimes). The truth is most homeless people don't really need food. At least where I live, there's a good few soup kitchen's about, and you can get a ton of calories off the McDonald's dollar menu for next to nothing. People do often need stuff like good socks, or a jacket that's actually mildly warming, which are a lot harder to find for cheap/free. They usually know what they need better than you do.
But what if they spend it on booze or drugs or luxury items? I don't really care. If a man in an Armani suit came up to to you and said he was really sorry, but needed a buck and would appreciate it if you would spot him, would you be like, "No, I don't think you need or deserve it enough." Hell, I even needed to ask a stranger to cover me during finals week when I urgently needed a blue book and the shop's card machine was down. I don't think charity needs to be precipitated by an in-depth poverty analysis. And if someone turns around and spends that money on crack or plastic bottle vodka, I honestly don't care either. If I slept on church steps behind a poorly constructed cardboard privacy wall and carried all my worldly possessions in a stolen shopping cart, I'd probably look for any escape I could find, too.
People exist who will take advantage of other people's kindness pretty much everywhere, panhandling included. I don't think that's a reason to start restricting our kindness to situations where we can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the person we are kind to "deserves" our help. That dollar could mean a lot to someone else, whereas for us it costs nothing or our immortal soul, depending on who you listen to.
happysunbear ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:26:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My beloved Virginia keeps making the front page for all the wrong reasons. ๐
jog7 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:38:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lmaoooo McDonald's workers don't give a fuck about anything, let alone about this tragic woman!
poop_in_my_coffee ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:25:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is basically every fucking homeless SOB at intersections in Toronto.
isparkeeh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always thought the ones around Yonge and College are legit... well, some of them look like it.
ilovepide ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:39:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like fraud and multiple threats spilling out of her mouth, all on record. Did they not the call the police cause they knew they'd do little to nothing about this thief?
jermzdeejd ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:55:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty good shape. Probably goes to the gym after traffic hour is over.
w00tah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:33:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a formerly ACTUALLY homeless person, anyone acting the part is a piece of shit.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:33:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The real shame is between people like this woman, and the guy who followed me for three blocks last week calling me every swear word there is because I don't smoke and couldn't bum him a cig, it can be dangerously easy to villify all homeless/impoverished people.
If you're reading this keep in mind there are poor people out there who are decent human beings in dire circumstances they have no control over. If we can have a redditquette on here, and remember to be respectful to others, we can carry that to the physical world and never assume homeless/poor = always scumbag scammer asshole.
thecoachtaylor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:38:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"very focused, very dedicated" Fucking lol
RandomUser9313 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:09:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You guys showed her license plate, reddit is going to off on this woman lol.
MoonStache ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:59:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I never give beggars money. It's unfortunate, but this happens a lot. I've caught people in lies many times. All you have to do is ask a few questions.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:28:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Someone's gonna kill you."
Wow.
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 16:30:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never give homeless money. They're either druggies, alcoholics, people with mental issues, or people like this women scamming people. If you want to help out the homeless, donate money to a local shelter or organization that aids them.
EDIT: I'm not saying I hate those people. I'm just saying if you want to really help them, donate to a shelter. You don't know who or what kind of people they are. They could be scamming you out, they could use that money to buy alcohol or drugs. I'd rather put my money where I know it'll matter, versus taking a risk.
legosexual ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 16:41:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or give food. Some people are actually homeless.
you_are_the_product ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:18:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what bothers the fuck out of me. I mean damn I walk past people sitting on a crappy blanket in the doorway with no home and I want to help them. It just sucks that there are so many that are cheating or are going to buy booze. You want to help the real ones so bad.
15blairm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, the only way to separate the scum from the actual needy, is you offer to go buy them some food, its more work for you but It'll be better off 99% of the time, you could also end up saving an addict from burning the money on drugs instead of what he actually needs to survive.
Go to a store and grab em a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter, it'll get them further than pre-made more expensive shit
PBerggren ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:16:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't give a warm meal to someone sitting on the street or outside the store, so the money is better spent at a shelter that buys in cheaper bulks of raw ingredients and cooks them. Healthier, cheaper and it's a consistent source of food for homeless to frequent. An overpriced sandwich or burger is still better than nothing though.
rjbman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:53:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pro tip: you can give leftovers though!
Revircs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even some water and sanitary wipes would be helpful.
250kcal ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:40:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, unless you watch them eat it in front of you, they will just trade that food for drugs.
EuropoBob ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:28:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is so moronic. You're blind through hate.
ReallyForeverAlone ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:04:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ehh, kinda hard to trade a cold Quarter Pounder to any legitimate drug dealer. Though if there was another homeless person that had drugs and wanted the food instead, I could see it working. But still, not as easy as paying cash for drugs.
Voixoff ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:38:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People with mental issues deserve to live too.
IntimidatingBlackGuy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:01:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those low lifes need to keep their hormonal levels BALANCED! /s
Voixoff ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:05:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are Hideously selfish, hatefull and ignorant. You are the low-life
xmknzx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:18:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pro-tip: /s means sarcasm
Voixoff ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With the amount of hatefull shit in this thread, it's a fair mistake
yourbrotherrex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I offer sex.
Edgarallenbroo ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 17:22:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All this proves is that she drives a car, not that she isn't homeless. I think there is something potentially wrong with her, the way she runs to an adult when she's old as shit. I don't think she's entirely with it
woowoo293 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:59:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think people have a very clean-cut, black-and-white definition of homelessness in their heads. The mere fact that she's not wearing rags and has a new-ish cars isn't proof of anything. It's no more meaningful than when politicians rail about low-income people having fancy iphones.
On another level, is homelessness the only standard by which panhandlers are certified as legit?
UprisingPlant ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:48:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed, but keep in mind how clean she looks, she probably also has a gym membership to shower in.
Is it wrong of me to say not to jump to conclusions on this lady?
e92zcp ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:01:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes she drives a car, a fucking Fiat and not some rusted old Chevy. She's obviously doing just fine financially and most likely has a home and no "disability".
She ran to the closest person she could find because she was trying to make a scene to get them to leave. You can tell by her reaction that she never expected to get caught. She was arguing the same way my teenager does when he gets caught red handed.
UprisingPlant ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:11:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
she might be recently homeless
e92zcp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then she should be resorting to things like downgrading her vehicle and dropping that gym membership before lying to strangers and begging for money.
UprisingPlant ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:35:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She needs hygiene
Futhermucker ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
could that be a result of irresponsible decisions like buying brand new cars?
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:02:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
badgreengator ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:26:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am disabled. I often do not call ahead of time because I really shouldn't have to. Esp if the place I am going to is a chain, they should have their shit together. And yeah, disabled people get pissed. Do you have any idea how much shit we have to put up with just to do normal things? God forbid your disability doesn't involve the constant use of a wheelchair or you will be constantly berated by "do-gooders" who think they are exposing "fakers" when really they are just harassing disabled people.
I've had a woman spit in my face for using my disabled parking spot because I "look healthy." I have a damn doctor for every part of my body. My body is a fucking house of cards waiting to tumble any minute and I have to tell complete strangers about my medical history all the time just to avoid being harassed. Do you have to tell complete strangers your private medical history on the daily while they look at you disgustedly? You try going through that for years and not getting pissed at the next person in your face accusing you of being a faker.
the_leprechauns_anus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She looks like a trophy wife to me.
truth__bomb ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd be surprised how getting caught doing something wrong makes people do the most illogical things. I'm not saying she doesn't suffer from some sort of mental disability, but her behavior debunks that notion as much as it proves it. I mean, the fact that she brought up her "disability" at the perfect moment, to me, suggests it can't be serious enough to prevent her from knowing that her actions are wrong. My experience with people who have mental disabilities is that there isn't a ton of self-awareness surrounding the disability itself, especially not in time of distress. But who knows? I'm not a psychological expert.
DrCheezburger ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:20:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is misplaced energy: harassing someone who might be doing something unethical, but is not, as far as we see in this video, breaking the law in any way. Yeah, she probably doesn't report the income on her taxes, but I don't know how random harassment by some angry dude with a phone is going to resolve that.
There's so much large-scale bullshit and corruption going on right now by corporations and government that pursuing a single, sketchy individual seems pointless and stupid. Your energy would be much better applied to catching the big fish. Of course, that would require strategy and planning.
Nix-geek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had an interesting interaction with a beggar just this last weekend. She came up to my wife, and kids, as we were packing up to leave, and asked for food. Normally, I automatically say no to any panhandler, but since she was asking for food, I stopped and looked in the car. She was scruffy, was wearing only socks, and was pretty dirty. She definitely looked homeless, or at least desperate enough to want food instead of money. We had oranges, and some baby food. Not a great selection, but, we did have a package of peaches for the kids. I grabbed two oranges, the package of peaches, and turned to offer them to her.
"what the fuck am I supposed to do with that? It isn't food?"
Uh... Ok. I guess we have nothing for you, the. She then staggered over to a lifted truck, fell over... then picked up a pair of shoes that were next to the, stumbled again, and then stumbled down the road.
She was way off the planet... I wonder if I missed some kind of hidden message in her asking for food.
sierra120 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A guy walks up to me once as I'm heading to my car from buying groceries. "Hey buddy, I need help,my truck ran out of gas at the intersection of 80 and 133 and I rolled it to the gas station across the street. But I noticed I didn't have my wallet with me. Can you help me with just 1 gallon of gas. "
The guy seemed sincere and like he needed help. I told him...I don't carry cash...and before I could say anything else he said, "thank you anyways" and walked away.
A week later I see him approaching another guy and say : "Hey buddy, I need help,my truck ran out of gas at the intersection of 80 and 133 and I rolled it to the gas station across the street. But I noticed I didn't have my wallet with me. Can you help me with just 1 gallon of gas. "
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shoulda offered to go to the gas station and pay with your card, bet he'd of bocked.
strange_fate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:14:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
McDonald lady didn't expect to be playing judge that day.
johnTheKeeper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:14:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I had a car... hmm I wonder if she can give me lessons on how to get money.
Digi-Wolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I KNEW IT!!!!!!
tylercreatesworlds ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:20:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She jogs pretty good for a disabled person.
StopHereOnRed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:20:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love the repeated and impassioned appeals to McDonald's employees, who are -- apparently, in her world -- some sort of top-tier civil magistrates.
D1sCoL3moNaD3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These guys won't leave me alone. Then get in your car and drive away. LOL classic.
Bigshmeeb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The last part of this video... "she works hard for her money, so hard for it hunny"
foycifus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:22:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes me sick
SnakeAColdCruiser ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ultimate "I just work here"
Mattums ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My biggest problem is that seeing people like this make me less likely to want to give to people who might genuinely need it. So really, it's less about how she's screwing me or other people by taking money away from us... it's how she's taking money away from real homeless people. Why is it that the people with the least amount of morals in this country end up with all the money? Sigh.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nothing wrong with making money off a hobby
trim_reaper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would it be reasonable to make their own signs that say "This woman is a thief, etc & then follow her around town."
yagidy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why does she run to the McD's employees for help?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And this is why I don't give shit to people on the street. I donate food to local food banks. No one should be giving these people on the street money.
Suicidal_pr1est ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every time I see my city on front page I hope its uplifting news... Nope.
OldGrayMare59 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:43:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She never called the cops because she knew if the cops came they would arrest her for fraud vagrancy McDonalds is within their right to tow her car since she is using their parking lot to commit fraudulent acts....come on lady call the cops
shanep35 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:43:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Donate to churches and homeless shelters!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sherlock Holmes in 1891 basically had the same exact scam as a story. It's been going on since then, at the very least.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_with_the_Twisted_Lip
xSpeedyMonkeyx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.mikeontraffic.com/numbers-every-traffic-engineer-should-know/
According to the site posted above a 4 lane road w/ left turn lanes (which that road looks like it is imo) can see 31,000 cars a day.
So say she gets a dollar from maybe every fiftieth car that goes through ( I think that's fair). That is 620 dollars untaxed that she gets to take home. Makes six figures a year. Obviously this is speculation but c'mon, this shit is weak.
Jonkampo52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yup pretty sweat scam, if she has combined it with a BS disablitiy claim to cover her main living expences the IRS would track she is golden. hell she prolly also gets food stams and sells the card for cash as well.
xSpeedyMonkeyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the shit that needs to be stomped out.
Warriv9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:50:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this lady is scummy.
However.... There is something majorly wrong with society when you can make more money panhandling than minimum wage.
tomolive ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My guess why she didn't really want to call the cops: She knew there was nothing they would do and she didn't want to pull her phone out of her purse to show that she had one.
ncreasethepeace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's disgusting.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bitch I work at McDonalds do I look like law enforcement to you?
abefg4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you see someone begging on the street like this, give them some food or water, not money. If they are greatful, they're likely homeless. It's the ones who aren't that you can tell are faking being so.
This is absolutly disgusting.
MattTheFlash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:57:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She went to the nearest person in hope that that person would be a "white knight" for her without context to wtf was going on.
haigins ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:57:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
11k upvotes and 5k YT views. Makes sense.
CraftZ49 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are fake homeless people in my town who literally are on their $500 powered cell phone with service all fucking day while begging for money and people STILL give them money. There needs to be some sort of big campaign against these people.
GoiterGlitter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:03:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You do realize you can get a phone for a few dollars down and pay a little bit a month, right? Having a phone, even an expensive one doesn't mean a damn thing.
SurfingDog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This shit pisses me off ๐ก
Snowy_Thighs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Side question: How does this video have 12.5k upvotes but youtube video has under 7k views??
Do that many people not watch the video and blindly upvote or what?
GoiterGlitter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep.
PrezLittleFingers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look man she's just a street performer you like her act give her the money you don't like it just walk away. Who cares she's homeless or not. The dude was just happy that the video is going to go viral.
jawshoe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty common in new york. Major categories here are disabled, mentally ill, drug addicts, and fake. Id say they are relatively evenly distributed
TheAbsurdityOfItAll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was always curious how much these people make. So I tried this once. Dressed down, chose a busy intersection, and started pacing with my sign. After an hour I made $2.
gervinho90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't wait for an update on this one
typhoidmarry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Richmond, I recognize those street corners. Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for her. I may point at laugh.
pwned_sheep ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am actually homeless and I appreciate that there are people exposing asswipes like her. I busk (play street music) for a living and I work hard for the little money I get. I dont panhandle and I don't ask for money other than tips for my muaic and I never verbally ask for money. I can't stand that some people want to just leech off society by begging for money, I wish people had a little more self respect than to beg, it's cowardly and shows that they cant face their issues head on. Like I said I work hard for what little I get, and I'm well below the poverty line. But I still do not agree with the process of panhandling whether in an aggressive nature or not.
JingoKhanDetective ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worse case of I want to talk to the manager I've ever seen.
codingmusician ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm starting to think these McDonald's workers might actually deserve $15/hr.
acetrainerjames ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
because everyone deserves a living wage or because you're finally not a heartless monster?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:10:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who works in Richmond, VA...I wouldn't expect anything less out of these people.
You have people like this, you also have people dressed in expensive clothes, holding up a sign claiming to be homeless while they text on their iPhone behind said sign. Then you have the most common form of homeless people, the "Homeless Veteran". The reason i put the quotes is because in 2015 VA became the first state to "functionally" end Homeless Veterans, meaning all of the homeless vets you see are either lying about being vets, or were offered housing but declined.
Jonesmania ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:10:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In 8th grade our teacher made us to a little research assignment on homelessness. I don't remember exact numbers or anything but I was shocked how many are actually scammers. I do remember reading if you do anything buy and offer them food. If they are really needy they'll take it.
A classmate of mine had a crazy story about how their family saw a homeless man and he wanted a train ticket home to see his family. Well they buy him they ticket take him to the train station. Who do they see a few days later? The same guy back out asking people for money. He traded the ticket in for cash.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:12:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That McDonald's employee doesn't give a fuck lol. Why should anyone give a fuck? I'm so tired of these cell phone vigilantes.
Don't get me wrong, this lady is dumb. But is it really worth this? These guys just want to be internet famous.
impmd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For those that actually want their money to do THE MOST GOOD: give well !
For those that actually want their money to do LOCAL GOOD EFFICIENTLY read these reviews
mattdan79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly why I never give a pennie to someone who approaches me. I give monthly to a food bank instead.
JonnyPopo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My opinion is aligned with you. I'll offer to buy a sandwich if the person looks younger. And I always name the locations in town that I've volunteered at before. Also two shelters in town.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This bitch wont get anywhere in South Africa. Unless you can fake a lost limb, or some mental retardation, you are fucked.
MeowntainMan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, she does have a disability: stupidity
m00n_child0707 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:17:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WOW WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE GET A FUCKING JOB
botolo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:17:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe next time cover her license plate
azsheepdog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SHAME! SHAME! Ding Ding SHAME! SHAME! ding ding ding SHAME!
CodeMonkeyX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not only is she ripping off the drivers, but she is also hurting the real homeless people who need help.
I already suspected this was happening a lot in LA, because sometimes the people begging are better dressed than I am and they want my money. But I always try to assume the best, but people like this now push me towards assuming they are con people. So I will be much less likely to give to them.
chikeetaBonBon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I bark wherever I wanna bark"
snorlz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is like a preschool level insult
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really sad, but this is why I avoid helping homeless people. I literally do not know if I'm helping someone in need or giving someone who makes double what I make, a bunch of my money that would benefit me and my debt more. My wife brought food to a woman with kids and a sign saying they needed money for food and the woman said.. no shit "I would prefer cash, what do you want me to do with this?" bitch I want you to feed your so called starving ass and kids. Gave chicken nugs to the kids then I opened her burger and started eating it while walking away. Don't put your fucking hands out for help, then think you are entitled to more than what someone is trying to offer you.
gghggg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I only give out drugs to homeless people! That way I know I'm not being screwed!!
MasterKey2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Little does she know that she made it to the top of the front page of Reddit.
deaconjudge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes this is sickening that people lie and steal for their own benefit, but it happens on a much larger scale on a daily basis. I truly believe she does have a disability or is sick, because bottom line drug addicts are sick people in and I truly believe that is why she would be doing something of this nature. If she had money she would not be begging for it on the side of the road, it would just be nice to see her get help rather than scamming people for a dollar or two.
Cassius_Rex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Years ago I learned to not give money to homeless people. I give food or even clothing (I actually keep a sack of cheap socks and gloves in my trunk).
I can't tell you how many time's i've been turned down by a "homeless" person who I offered to buy food for.
Castleprince ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ถshe works hard for the money๐ถ
Ivikatasha ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is very interesting how she decided not pull out her cell phone, probably because its like a iphone 7 or something.
dumblondflicka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poor people arguing amongst eachother, never seen that before.
berggg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a couple of these people in my hometown. I've not seen it with my own eyes but I've been told people have witnessed them getting in and out of the same car everyday with a clear trash bag full of cans.
I've also heard someone ended up following the car and finding out they live in the same condo complex as the "homeless" person.
Most of this is all based on he said she said but I've gotta say I've never seen any homeless person in my city or even the surrounding cities (which some aren't the best places around) and I'm curious how they get to the spots that they beg at considering I don't think there is any public transit even close.
I've always hoped I could expose them in the way this person does.
Sugarpeas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a legitimate homeless guy that lived in the park by my apartment complex. He never panhandled, and he talked to himself a lot. I think he may have been schizophrenic. He had a few dogs with him as well and kept up with this outdoor animal house in the park for when freak snowstorms came by. I gave him packaged food all the time, and he was always very happy for it. I wasn't sure what else I could have done, this guy actually needed help.
Meanwhile, I was in Austin, Texas one time and was harassed constantly by young, mentally intact "homeless" people. They were fairly well dressed (sort of hipster style), and well kept. This was a huge contrast to me. It reminded me a lot of that panhandling episode from King of the Hill.
It's these sorts of people that have made me so skeptical for people in need. I suppose if they were truly just hungry, or looking for a job, or need gas, they don't care if they get the cash, they only care about the end game item. As in, if they're actually hungry and you give them a sandwich then they're satisfied. If they need a gas, and you simply buy them gas, then they're completely good.
ToriBeth214 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So did anything happen to her as a result of this video?
darkjedidave ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tried it for 8 hours one day as punishment for coming in last place in my fantasy football league. I made just over $380, better than the 2nd place team's earnings ($250). Needless to say, we didn't do that for the last place team again.
somedude456 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where? Like what city? Did you pick a busy off ramp? Did you dress dirty?
mastertheillusion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:29:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Focus on dirty rich people please.
Begging is her business model. It never has nor never will demand honesty. Look at the situation. It is not right, but neither is the fucking society she is in. Money, or die.
At least it isn't about completely shafting people and poisoning them while forcing them to pay for it or possibly die from dehydration.
HumbleSnek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:29:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Typical closet criminal. Get called out on their shit and all of a sudden they're the victim, and proceed to latch onto anything to get the people exposing them off them, from lying, claiming ignorance, and worst of all going to others and seeing if she can play the damsel in distress card to get them to help her in the heat of the moment. They'll do whatever it takes just so they can continue being the horrible human beings they are.
SlowRollingBoil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see fake homeless often enough that I never, ever give to homeless people anymore. I give to some charities monthly that I have researched properly and want to support.
glasspheasant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Organized pan handling" is all over the place in both Richmond and Charlottesville. You can see them in Cville on just about every major intersection. Same folks rotating through the same spots every day. One pissed me off bc I had to explain "Fuck the world" to my 10 year old little bc of this guys sign.
Long story short, follow the feedback here and donate to a shelter if you want to help the homeless. These organized folks are a business basically.
cmonpplrly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It amazes me how stupid people act when they get busted doing something shitty.
cantstandya_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Car's registered in Maryland. This degenerate is scamming multiple states!
LevelOneTroll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:34:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The pan handling got so bad in my town that it was straight up outlawed. They used to be at every interstate exit, but now it's rare to see any at all.
strange_fate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:34:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Twist: she's collecting money to hire a hitman to get the last guy that found her out.
bigpig1054 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:34:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love how indignant and defensive she gets when she's caught.
KleetsandKlicks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why do stupid people have to be around
Bloodmark3 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:48:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice ass tho
blanketswithsmallpox ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:00:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... I thought everyone gave to the homeless under the assumption they probably aren't?
da1hobo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:43:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do this. Partly because it's the easiest way to make them leave me alone though.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:00:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you are like the person at the beach who gives food to seagulls and then they fly around shitting on other people who had the knowledge to not give food to seagulls?
da1hobo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If in this analogy the seagulls will slash my tires if I don't give them food then yeah I'm that guy.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:04:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seagulls in my area are pretty aggressive....
Chance_Wylt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn those seagulls have fast metabolisms and no other food source.
Seagulls I know about are Savage. When someone bit my girlfriend's tongue when pulling sandwich from her mouth. It was ridiculous.
Inspace96 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:47:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or you could just have your headphones on and ignore them. Also can just say you don't have cash on you, only card.
da1hobo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://abc13.com/news/man-gets-attacked-by-panhandlers-at-westchase-donut-shop/1443035/
http://www.khou.com/news/local/council-members-call-for-action-on-aggressive-panhandling/293989860
This is the sort of panhandlers we have in my area.
pedrotheterror ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 17:21:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The dude filming seems like the same type of douche-bag that makes those stupid stolen valor films.
SpitzerFX ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:45:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL outing a fake homeless person is more morally upstanding than outing a fake veteran
biggoof ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:27:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea he probably does, cause shit like this probably makes him feel superior to someone else, but in this case, I fully support him. There's people with legit needs, and these types of people ruin it for them.
billionaire_ballsack ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:01:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably? There is NO PROBABLY there. It most definitely does, and his friend too. Listen to the end of the video, the two sitting in their car laughing and patting each other on the back. "well done dude, exposing this fraud!" Look again, there is no proof at all that is actually her car. That shirt she is wearing, could easily be from goodwill. Just a bunch of assumptions.
the_taco_baron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:43:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least he's using his douche bag powers for good.
billionaire_ballsack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good? Regardless of if the lady is homeless or not- publicly ostracizing people in potentially precarious positions could spell the literal end of someone who is really in a life or death situation. I would hardly call that good.
peterpantheman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:13:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate this woman, she is vile, I hate this woman, she is in denial.
suckmyassboiii ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:17:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This bitch driving a fiat smh
Thundabeast ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:39:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure she has some sort of mental impairment. Not saying what she is doing is right and obviously she doesn't need the help of change from strangers. But, I can't reconcile why she would walk up to a McDonald's drive-thru window and ask why they are filming her... Very odd
BamaboyinUT ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:09:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This will probably get buried but here's my "panhandling" story:
I answered a Craigslist ad for a home builder that was having an open house. They were going to pay me $100 to stand there holding/waving a sign for 4 hours. I lasted 20 minutes. It was the most boring, mind-numbing task I've ever attempted.
If folks want to stand on a corner with a sign in order to make money, I say more power to them. I certainly couldn't do it.
MinecraftNightcrawle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:19:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
McDonalds employee knows what's good though.
Lady = crazy, mentally challenged.
Filmer = Nosy and wants 5 minutes of fame.
Car = wants to run away from all of this and start a new life in italy, maybe meet a nice chicken, and have kids.
WTF THEY BROKE THE 4TH WALL, HOW DOES HE KNOW REDDIT EXISTS?! THIS IS INSANE.
DownForever ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:53:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This video is a perfect example of why the internet can be a great thing. Fuck this con artist bitch. She literally had a massive brain fart and didn't know what to do when her worst fears came true. I love it. The guys filming did a fantastic job keeping their cool and not overstepping their bounds. I'm surprised she didn't try to pull the sexual harassment or rape card on them. This chick should be punished for what she's been doing. And that is a nice ass car. CUNT
dis_ABLED ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The internet also sucks because this will be used to paint every homeless person everywhere with a broad brush. This very comment thread is proof enough of that.
TheMy5teryMan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:17:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please, please don't think all homeless people are like this. There are way too many people who are homeless but can't get help because of people like this one.
billionaire_ballsack ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:58:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too late, this video damage has been done tenfold, just look at the thousands of gross comments here. The people who made it should be proud, they've probably caused a real homeless person to die by now, if not soon. They assume to know everything about her... While they will probably get paid soon for youtube views and the internet laughs and insults. Disgusting behavior.
Cash does help people: https://www.odi.org/sites/odi.org.uk/files/resource-documents/10748.pdf
Look again, there is no proof that is actually her car. That shirt she is wearing, could easily be from goodwill. They really know nothing about this stranger. She could be homeless but entirely embarrassed to admit it- gee wonder why.
ITT: hundreds of people being disrespectful to other human beings so it makes themselves feel better about their own financial situation. Does anyone stop to actually think "Well gee, we don't really know what her situation really is do we? We're just assuming a whole awful lot!" No. Shame on you all. Nobody stops to even consider why people like her might be forced to go out there? We point and laugh and blame and insult- as if she is some kind of subhuman - it's sick. Meanwhile the youtube video is probably making easy cash while this lady who could genuinely have major problems - is aggressively harassed.
The one sensible response: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/6co2ch/fake_homeless_woman_exposed/dhw300n/ and even then there is no proof that is her car. Idiots.
It's not "women like this" who are a problem with society. It's "videos like this" and people who laugh and make themselves feel better about their own financial position - that is the problem with society.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:49:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
thatryry0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The people who gave her free money before realizing she's a fraud would care
AbSoluTc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:10:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah dude, I live in Richmond and pan handling was non existent until recently. It's on every major corner. It's gotten so bad, some counties have put up signs making it illegal but offering help. Yet it continues. Different people, every day, some the same, some dressed better than myself. There may be a legit few but most of them are scammy. There's a couple were the whole family is brought out. Children used as props, animals also used as props. If you can feed yourself, why do you have a dog?
It a huge thing right now in RVA and it's starting to get out of hand. I hope they keep exposing these people and I hope the people exposed learn a lesson.
dislikedopposingview ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yea, if you think it's no big deal you have the same amount of shame she does... which is none
roguekiller23231 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:21:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is pretty common, people can make a lot of money, when they have just a sign and are aggressive about you giving them money, they are going to be someone like this (a fake). It's become a problem in a lot of places.
Homeless people tend to have their belongings with them. Most do not beg for money like this either.
Better to give the money to an independent small charity that provide hot meals and supplies for homeless people.
purged6 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:20:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a "homeless vet" in my area, every day after rush hour he walks to the craft beer store, buys a six pack and walks home talking on his cell phone.
polldiggs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:25:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why you should never give homeless people $. Give them food/water/snacks if you really want to help out.
Bebopcanoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homeless or not, disabled or not, you never know what someone may be going through.
a_goonie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Priorties man. If shes really struggling shes got 10 to 15k in that car sale. Just sayin. Driving is a privledge not mandatory.
MarioTheMaster1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:26:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She so dumb
McLaffyTaffy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:46:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Richmond. The panhandlers here are intense. I had a friend who was torn between staying in Richmond or moving to Portland, OR. His decision was made for him when, in 24 hours, he:
A) Had one guy hit him up for money on his way into a convenience store (which he gave) and then hit him up again for cigarettes on his way out because "smokes are expensive". And...
B) Had another panhandler come up to his truck at a light downtown in the middle of the night. The guy asked for money, my friend declined, and the guy saw a bucket of change near the center console. It was for tolls in the downtown area. The guy slapped the top of my friend's truck hard and screamed "Mother f****r, you got change, I can see it right there!", prompting my friend to run the light and basically drive until he was in Oregon.
natr0nFTW ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:03:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stick a fork in her that bitch is done !
ftctkugffquoctngxxh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:11:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, don't give to panhandlers. Give to your local homeless shelter if you want to help the homeless.
Snatch1414 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:14:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this type of content doesn't come from sympathy for real homeless people and more from contempt for beggars, at least on Reddit. It seems less about "They're stealing money from real homeless people!" and more about "See? This is why you should never help anyone on the street!".
As for this woman maybe she's scamming, but maybe instead there's a whole wide spectrum between "homeless and broke" and "completely self-sufficient scammer." I don't necessarily want to give her the benefit of the doubt but I definitely don't want to condemn her on the spot and pretend I know her life story.
ccm20012000 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:16:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Btw that cars a rental you can see the sticker
B12shots ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:17:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"They took our jobs"
Jetemple ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:27:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you're too ugly to be a hooker.
GeneralBape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And bitches like her talking about Mexicans taking her job lol
southerstar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had to stop watching when she said she has a disability. What a sorry bitch.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's a lousy thing she's doing :(
SpruxHD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:39:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there was this fat lady that sat in the shade of my local CVS parking lot asking for change, and then my mom told me one day she saw her drive off in a mercedes or something, or drive off with her daughter that worked in the starbucks in the same plaza.
AlwaysBeNice ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:01:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not ethical, but a work or die system with few essential jobs also invites this kind of behavior.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:04:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Scamming people? Nah. If you give money to a complete stranger you know nothing about, that idiocy is on you.
People who want to help others give money to nonprofits they trust to use their donations wisely. Or if they're bothered by a percentage of their money paying for administrative overhead, then they donate food or clothing or expertise so that 100% of their donation goes to people in need.
MACKJESUS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
who honestly gives a shit about stuff like this, if people want to beg for money all day let them, no one has to give anything and its about as annoying as a go fund me popping up on fb, so who cares..
Mr_HandSmall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's definitely people fucking us over in much bigger ways than this.
I guess people just like having a specific person to get mad at? I don't know. Funny thing to get so worked up about.
stugots85 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:06:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT people pretending this is a common occurence. It isn't. Most people out there panhandling would really rather not be.
Klmffeee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:16:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im pretty sure it is. I've seen people like this on a daily basis and it infuriates me. Too fucking lazy to work and too stupid to go to school so they do this. There are honest people begging but a majority of them don't need it.
zoahporre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I deal with assholes like her professionally. Most of them make more money than I do.
garlicroastedpotato ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:23:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Although this woman is clearly not homeless (and she admits as such) a lot of homeless people do live out of their cars. Owning a car is not evidence of being homeless it is evidence of owning a car. I have worked with a lot of homeless over the years on various job sites and so many of them just park their cars in a nearby lot and sleep in it.
Wonderfart11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How bout owning a high end SUV?
zap283 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:30:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The vast majority of homeless people had homes, cars, and everything most people had before they were homeless.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
garlicroastedpotato ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:10:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some were, some weren't. It depends on the year and circumstances. Last year Fort MacMurray burnt down. The vehicle of choice in Fort Mac is a lifted souped up truck. A lot of these people became homeless and those who didn't have money stashed away for emergencies lived in their vehicles. We hired a good number of these people.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:53:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have zero idea if she is homeless and I bet that guy has zero idea either.
Should probably use the efforts to educate about services and the consequences of panhandling to the public. Nah thats probably to much work.
I think this guys being a dick and just screaming in some ladys face cause he thinks she shouldnt be panhandling. He has no proof ethier way.
Its probably scary to have some idiot follow you around in a aggressive manner over panhandling
TheFatCrispy ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 17:53:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't scream once. Her pseudo threat of death was there though. She's scamming people. It's that simple.
Revircs ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 17:48:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you can afford a 2014 Fiat, there's no reason for you to be panhandling.
U8336Tea ยท -30 points ยท Posted at 18:24:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This instance
might have beenmost likely was a scam(I didn't watch with sound), but maybe someone got a new car and donated an old one.flopastus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:05:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nice ass tho
Xef ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:17:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OK, this woman obviously shouldn't be begging for money, BUT this dude shouldn't be chasing her down like this, either. I especially disliked the part where he made comments about how he didn't see any disabilities. Mental disabilities are serious and shouldn't be ignored just because they can't be seen.
Vanderscramble ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:38:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I told this story in another comment thread, but I think it's applicable. I'm not defending her, I just think we can give her the benefit of the doubt before the entire internet becomes so angry.
It makes me sad seeing those comments too like "What disability? She's walking around just fine!" I remember hearing a story about a girl with a heart problem that makes it difficult for her to walk around for long periods of time. She looks fine on the outside, so when people see she was parking in a handicap spot, people would yell at her and throw things at her for being a "fraud" or a "liar" even though she really needed that spot.
Again: I'm not defending her. I don't live anywhere near there, so it's possible she's just totally lying and everyone knows it. If that's the case, then that is horrible and unforgivable, but if she just lost her job, or actually mentally handicapped and is living out of her car, it's also horrible to put her on the spot like that for the entire world to make fun of her.
Colinwal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:08:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think what she was doing is wrong but I also don't like this type of very aggressive harassment.
TrippyWentLucio ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:24:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why it's such a crapshoot when deciding to help someone in "need."
2 weeks ago I ran into town to grab some fast-food and stop at Wal-Mart and I was asked by 3 separate people for anything I could spare. I gave the first guy 5 dollars (he was asking for money to get to Oklahoma and openly told me he had a vehicle and wife and pointed at them who waved at me). The second had no reason why, just said he was out of luck (so I gave him 3 dollars). The third was at Taco Bell and he asked for enough to get a taco (which I gave him enough for). He proceeded to stand right where he was when I drove up and I went inside. I waited for him to come in to get something, but after a minute or two I walked outside to see if he was coming because he hadnt yet. I had just enough time to make him out walking into a house that was behind the building across the parking lot.
You just never know.
lhedn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:01:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work with people with mental illness and she looks like she might not be right in her head. The way she acts and carries herself looks exactly like one of our patients.
Mr_HandSmall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah in the clear picture of her face at the beginning she reminds me of someone with mental illness. (I believe it's that kind of 'distant' look from social isolation).
squabbl ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:27:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Panhandlers who aren't homeless looking enough-- THAT'S what's wrong with this country!!
Energy could be better spent elsewhere.
changeling12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite thing to do as I pass by the 'homeless' people standing by the freeway exits is out on The Offspring's 'Why don't you get a job?', roll down the windows, and maintain eye contact.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:50:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[removed]
10cats1dog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, you know that this money is all cash, or do write checks to beggers? You going after the bottle deposit scavengers next?
davydooks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never understood why people get so upset over other people begging for money. It's not like they're forcing anyone to give them money.
No need to get up on your high horse about it. Either give them money or don't. Who cares?
spankymuffin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh. I think there's some good that can be done exposing her, so people wouldn't give money to someone who's pretty much faking poverty. But I don't think they needed to confront her so aggressively.
whinecube ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:01:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do not like it when they are walking around major intersections in between cars, causing unsafe hazards. They need at least get off the road.
davydooks ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well then just take them home with you. Problem solved!
plagues138 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:35:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But its a bit different. There are people who need money, and there are people who beg for money, when they dont need it.
A friend of mine used ro volunteer at some food bank who used to give boxes of food ebeey 2 weeks to lower income families, or people etc.....and he said there was this bitchy hasidic jew woman who would come every 2 weeks for the family box. She would show up in her Mercedes and demand a box because she claimed to be poor. People are just shit somtimes.
davydooks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, the example you gave sounds like someone being terrible. Although, she could have become poor and still had the car from before.
Either way, most people don't know the backstory behind why someone is begging. And it's not like we're talking huge sums of money here. Nor are there many people out there doing this. It just seems like such a pretentious thing to get upset about.
If someone wants to be upset about people taking advantage of others then go birddog the CEOs and stockbrokers who skirt the system, cheating people billions of dollars through tax shelters, bullshit loopholes, or just straight up corruption.
Mr_HandSmall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see it the exact same way. Pretty sure "fake" homeless people have a nearly negligible impact on society compared to the white collar criminals you listed.
Mr_HandSmall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the thing I can't believe. It's ridiculous how hyped up people are over this one lady. Something tells me they like seeing "bad" people punished more than they care about the dollar someone gave her. What a dumb thing to be concerned about in the big scheme of things.
radelrym ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because there are people who actually need help, and then there are people who are taking advantage of generosity. Generosity that cannot be given to someone who might actually need it.
Voixoff ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:54:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amazon, Google, Apple, Nike, and other big ass companies make millions by evading taxes and underpaid labor, sometimes children slave labor. The US goverment is selling weapons to dictatures. So are other big nations.
But hey, let's give crap to the local cookie lady who begs for change on the parking. That's the priority.
You guys have been brainwashed so thoroughsly.
nevercomindown ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:33:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get triggered harder.
TheMightyPathos ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:53:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cute ass at least.
inquirewue ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:53:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is so common in NoVA that I shrug it off and don't give money to anyone.
Wulfbrir ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:36:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel this is the appropriate response. If you feel the need to help give food or water.
GeezusKreist ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:15:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shes got a nice little ass
I know Im not the only one thinking it
-Chareth-Cutestory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck this guy. She's not stealing money. She may not be homeless but who is he to determine at what level panhandling is appropriate. Like you have to be this destitute. She's already lowering herself to that act of panhandling, it's not like she's getting joy out of it, why make it worse and get in her face.
And for all the "stealing" from people, it's not stealing if they're freely giving it. I didn't see what the sign read but I'm not going to make any assumptions about claims to be homeless on it, either. She's got an angle, if it works for her, let her be. Of all offenses to society at large, asking people for change isn't exactly all time top 10.
What he's doing, shoving a camera in her face and posting it on the internet for others to presumptuously judge, is 10x less civil and upstanding than what she's doing. Fuck that guy.
YeahButThatsNothing ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:33:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's pretty annoying, but I don't understand these guys' fascination with her.
She's begging for money. Ok. She either had enough money already or got enough money begging to buy a car. Ok. What's the problem here? We don't know anything about her. Maybe she does the whole /r/vandwellers thing and sleeps in that car. Maybe she's got a home she drives back to every day. I don't know, they don't know, who cares.
abcedarian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:53:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let's all put the pitchforks down for a minute... people can have cars- even nice ones and still be in need. We don't know the whole story. Maybe the car was paid off before she found herself in this situation. I'm more irritated by the camera man than by her "What's your disability?" Seriously? That's as bad as assuming that just because someone isn't in a wheel chair then they don't really need a handicap parking sticker.
thejohnblog ยท -26 points ยท Posted at 17:58:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If this gets buried, so be it. But these guys are jerks. Plain and simple.
This equals going up to someone parking in a disabled parking lot and appearing to be fine and attacking them for it without knowing the full truth. I have worked with the homeless in Dallas and Fort Worth and some have gone there due to alcoholism, dependence on drugs, mental illness. Some looked like you would when you first Google Homeless, some look like you and me.
Some have a shopping cart with grocery bags tied to the side, some have really nice cars and are soon going to lose that nice car.
Picture a woman beaten by her rich hubby every day, treated like garbage who has had enough. Scared out of her mind, gets in the car he finances or maybe luckily outright bought for her. She doesnโt know where to go, family and friends may be in short supply. Maybe she is afraid he will track her down.
She gives in to her dignity and panhandles. Every day in despair wondering how she got here, what she is going to do next.
And two asshats spend their time harassing her and putting her on social media high fiving themselves for EXPOSING THIS FRAUD.
She goes to the McDonalds hoping to get someone to help because lets face it, when terrified and alone with two or more guys hounding you, itโs scary. They are ASKING WHERE DOES SHE LIVE. Are you kidding me?!
โI have a disability!โ Maybe thatโs true. Maybe not. Maybe she is on drugs and needs a fix, maybe not. Maybe she is a worthless person who has a nice car and a nice home and is panhandling because she wants to take advantage of good peopleโs generosity. Which one of these situations seem more likely.
Is it that hard to spend time erring on the side of compassion? Is it that hard to use this time to say, hey, may I speak to you for a moment? What can I do to help, it worries me to see you out here begging for money and I am curious of your situation because you seem to be more well off than you make appear? Is this a recent event you losing your home? How can I help.
But no. Let me get this viral cause thatโs what is more important. (Hell, the first thing he says is this video is viral.)
There is a worthless idiot taking advantage of peopleโs emotions in this video. Itโs not the woman.
rasGazoo ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 18:28:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're viewing this the wrong way.
She has a late-model vehicle and is panhandling. She has a sign saying homeless but admits she is not.
Anyone in a true need situation would get rid of her car, live in it, etc. She's taking advantage of the charity and gullibility of other people. You're trying to debate something where the chances of any of the outcomes you're defending her for is slim to none.
[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 18:20:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the lady in the video!
nevercomindown ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:30:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not fooling anybody.
Jewboy86 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:41:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a lot of mixed feelings about this...
One thing I know...if she is at the point where she is begging for money, my guess is she is not in a great situation. I don't really think you can hate on her more than any other beggar. The notion that begging is OK if you are homeless and not OK if you drive a car/have a place to sleep is ridiculous.
I guess what I am trying to say is...this guy should come to NYC and do the same thing for every homeless person sitting there begging for money with a bottle of whiskey in their hand. What she is doing is no better or worse than what they are doing.
Jinbuhuan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! Come to NYC, and ride the subway! Is it a scam, do they make more money than you and your 9 to 5 job? I don't know or care!
llewkeller ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This shouldn't surprise people. I live in San Francisco, where there are thousands of homeless - most are good people just down on their luck, or in many cases, mentally ill. But there are scammers. There was one guy who worked the Financial District - he was clean and well dressed, friendly and outgoing. His story was that he had just gotten here - his wallet was stolen, his job started in a couple of days, etc.
I almost never give to panhandlers, but he was so charming and convincing that I gave him $5, IIRC. Found out later that he had been doing this scam for a couple of years.
And there are 'homeless' people who aren't homeless - just trying to get money to feed their habits - usually drugs.
ddiiggss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone in this video sucks, except the McDonald's employees who don't get paid enough to deal with this shit.
901babidaddi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
F*** ppl like her shame they don't have any self pride
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:26:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have mixed feelings about this. Yes, there are likely many other people like her who are panhandling when they have a house and such. Apparently my hometown has an underground business of sorts, where people have shifts at certain places. But this video going viral would just take away money from people who actually need it.
The-Banana-Tree ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Someone is going to end up killing you for harassing me" Really lady?
Congjeezy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
damn, this made me hungry for a McChicken.
kraftykraftpaper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:35:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was talking to the wait staff at a bar in Ann Arbor one day, and somehow we started talking about one of the local panhandlers. They said they followed him home one night, and found that he was living in a very upscale apartment (well above the pay grade of said wait staff!). I know it's sort of a "friend of a friend" story, but thought it was interesting enough to be worth sharing. That guy is a friendly panhandler at least from what I remember. He's entertaining and doesn't harass people (like a lot of them do). But it still seems like a shitty thing to do when you're not actually poor.
grandmoffcory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if he's only not poor because he panhandles and if he quit panhandling he'd be poor again and need to panhandle to survive.
kraftykraftpaper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:47:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The interesting thing to me was that he seemed to be borderline wealthy, not just not poor. I feel like if I were in a situation where I needed to panhandle, and I was taking in more than I needed, I would set the extra aside until I was able to get myself out of the situation, rather than making it a lifestyle and buying luxuries. I suppose it would be interesting to get an honest explanation from the guy.
Gimpythecrutch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These guys are almost as annoying as she is.
bafrad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol. What a waste of time. Why even video tape this person?
Captain_Juba ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just because you have a car doesn't mean you're not homeless or don't need financial help. Obviously this woman could have some mental disability or be lying. Without knowing this woman I would have tried to follow her to see where she went (if she had a house), and try to find out her name and some more information before confronting her. Threatening to kill someone, however, is inexcusable whether you have a disability or not.
NewMemeGuy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We need to make classes to
TEACH WOMEN NOT TO LIE.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/quityourbullshit
BeanBayFrijoles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, if someone who is financially stable is taking charity from people who actually need it, thats obviously shitty, but is anyone else really uncomfortable with how low we're setting the bar for proof?
We really don't know the full situation - not necessarily with this woman, but with anyone you see on the street. Not every homeless person mumbles unintelligibly and lives out of a shopping cart. Most are just average people who hit a string of bad luck.
People in this thread are acting like this is proof that homeless people don't deserve to be helped. It sort of feels like people just want to justify their apathy towards poverty.
I'm not saying this to try and guilt anyone into giving money - poverty and begging are serious issues that are largely the result of systemic problems - but this idea that homeless people are gross jerks who probably deserve their misfortune just really upsets me.
Anyway, sorry for the rant. I just get really uncomfortable seeing how casually people demonize the homeless in our culture.
ohiofish1221 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm gonna tell McDonalds you're parked in their parking lot not being a customer" -2017 Badass of the ear
chainplatinum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
umm isnt this witch-hunting material? I understand the want to call out this bitch out for shit behavior but this video shows us the city in which she begs and her number plate, can someone correct me?
Codex_of_Wisdom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, so, I watched the video and have read some comments, and am of the opinion that she really is fake.
However, I want to just point out, based on the apparent premise of the recorder, nice car does not necessarily equal not homeless. 2014 is 3 years ago. A lot can happen in 3 years. It's entirely possible she had bought that car new, then lost her job, or got a divorce or something and lost her home, but the car was already paid off. At that point, it wouldn't be real practical to sell the car at a loss, only to have to buy another car, even if it is a lower-priced car. Unlikely, but not unheard of.
Certainly NOT the case here, however.
Bthejerk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:11:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It appears this woman is mentally ill to some degree. People shouldn't panhandle if they don't need it. It seems like she doesn't need to but the truth is we don't know the full story. The guy talking had a voice and superior attitude that makes me want to punch him. End of the day I don't like anyone in this vid except the workers. They're just trying to to their job and they have to deal with these two idiots. I believe in karma. If she's scamming she'll get hers someday. And dude, you don't have to give her anything so why do you care so damn much about panhandling transactions between consenting adults. If you choose to give you should give without ever having any expectation of getting anything back or of judging what that money will be used for. If you don't want to give them don't give. The hubris of the voice guy was irritating. He's excited because he feels he just won the likes/upvotes lottery. Pride goeth before the fall dumbass.
blacksoxing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's folks outraged in here, but why? She wasn't imposing on anyone's "turf". She may or may not be in need (I don't know her finances). She may have at one point been homeless and just can't quit!
In Oklahoma City for example, there's daily ones (aka the folks who seemingly are always at the same spot). There's panhandlers who are doing it to get the homeless off the streets. There's the traditional "These kids need to go on vacation!" type. And my favorite...firefighters with boots! Yep, our firefighters wanna drum up money for charities.
My only issue with this is that it's non-taxed, OR, it requires self-regulation. We all know though that unless she's a "special one", she's not going to report these earnings. I dislike that. Outside of that....it's on you as a person to give anybody money. I give them food from my car. You can tell on their faces the ones who really want the food...and the ones who don't want no stinkin' food!
Wet_Walrus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude should have followed her in his vehicle to wherever she resides. If she drives her fiat and parks it underneath an overpass right next to her two-person tent then I'd let it slide but if she pulls it into a driveway to a house with a white-picket fence, the vids are going viral.
_halalkitty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work with many homeless people in Europe and there are cases of people being exploited and forced to beg and collect a daily sum or risk getting hurt. That's in a context of human trafficking and organized crime. They do it because they or their families are extorted and they feel the authorities can't help them (lots of stigma). Anyhow, I never ever ever ever saw something like this happen. Don't know what her deal is. Key message: don't forget that every homeless person has a first name and a story that goes with it. Please don't generalize based on viral videos. Cheers.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yet if she put on a bad knock-off Cookie Monster costume and stood in Times Square doing the same thing, she'd be legitimate.
ElliotGrant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Cleveland, and we see a LOT of these folk. Normally, they are actually homeless and I occasionally talk to a few of them (Cleveland is largely homeless) and buy them juice or hand em a cigarette. Really good people. Just had some ups and downs in life.
Women like the woman shown in this video are ever increasing. What it's over?
Heroin
jcarnegi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you think itโs a big deal that this woman can pretend to be broke when she isnโt, you ought to turn that camera right back on the McDonaldโs drive-thru legal support and ask her about their milkshake machine.
Youโll see theyโre two peas in a pod, I guarunfuckingtee it.
iloveyou271 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's mentally ill. No one in their right mind would seek help in this situation from a fast food worker.
I would have gone to the police and showed the footage instead of confronting her about it.
Dkswaggg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this is how a lot of "homeless" people are. It really is sad that they don't have the drive to try to better themselves
Deplar1782 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:34:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I swear people like this make me sick. How r u gonna own a damn Fiat 500, park at McDonalds and then beg for peoples hard earned money? Even if she has a disability that doesn't mean she should lie about being HOMELESS! If she can afford a damn foreign car she can afford rent.
jermzdeejd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That woman freaked out so bad. Your disability is being a terrible liar.
Jenodd1 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just scrolled most comments. I've seen no sympathy from anybody, and not one question posed about what can't be seen. The closest was "I wonder if the disability is mental." It's sad, because usually I find the reddit community seems open about having conversations about mental health. What changed in this video versus other posts? Is it because she looks like an able bodied woman? There's so much more to this picture. Even if it doesn't fit your perfect narrative of a person who needs help, this woman needs help. I don't quite understand how a couple of somewhat aggressive people with a cell phone cam confronting somebody is an act of heroism. What are you saving us all from? Accidentally giving somebody $2? Things like this just make the millions of people second guess lending people a helping hand. Even you. Next time you see somebody who needs help, you'll think... I WONDER IF IT'S ONE OF THOSE SHEISTY IMPERFECT PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP, NO WAY. It's not worth sharing, it's not an act of heroism, it's divisive and sad. I'm sad for them and I'm sad for her. We're all imperfect people who need help. It looks different for everybody.
Madhy_A ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:37:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bro her voice makes me cringe I would punch her so hard that she will lose her "disability"
abradolph ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why does this have more upvotes than views?
grandmoffcory ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:35:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im confused as a person who has been homeless multiple times but always took care of their appearance and still had a car. I didn't panhandle because I have crippling anxiety and refuse to seek help generally when needed. I'm also psychologically 'disabled' and I can't manage hold a job longer than six to twelve months, haven't my entire life, I should be on disability but I'm afraid to go through the process and often give up because I'm not worth it anyway, etc.
Panhandlers exist for all sorts of reasons and plenty of them lie to get the highest dollar amount to get by, but all the reasons people are saying she's a lying scumbag don't make her not homeless or in need of help.
Thank_You_Wont_You ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for sharing your opinion, I was thinking something similar after watching this video.
DarthCalla ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:36:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a cunt
xthetalldudex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:31:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unpopular opinion.
I think it's pretty obvious this lady shouldn't have been asking for money, but it's also not okay to operate on the pretense that a nice object doesn't mean they're homeless or struggling or disabled. It's the same argument you hear from older people about food stamps and iPhones: "You have a new iPhone so you must not really be poor." Being poor, being homeless, having a disability takes many forms. That might be a friends car she's (supposed) to be using to look for a job. That might be her parents car. She might have been given a phone by an outreach center to look for jobs.
I think this video was a little bit of revenge porn and people are getting off on the idea that they've confronted a fake homeless person. In fact I think most of the Reddit and Youtube comments reflect that. When the truth is she never even gets inside that car. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN BE HER CAR. I think confronting her for an explanation and an offer to help might have been INFINITELY better for the universe. This was just more satisfying. You can even tell the way he's bragging "this is gonna go viral!"
jfartster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:41:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're all on a ladder, and the people on the top rungs want you to kick down. That's the mentality this video plays into. Forget being compassionate, be suspicious! Don't think about helping, you're being ripped off! That's it, fight amongst each other and remember it's the poor people that are taking advantage of everybody else.
RelaxPrime ยท -76 points ยท Posted at 16:52:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who fucking cares? I don't know which is more detrimental to society, some lady begging for change while pretending to be homeless, or two guys that feel the need to film her for the gotchya!
And the lady is right, if she has a disability, it's none of their damn business what it is.
You want to effect the begging for money situation, convince people not to give people money on the side of the street. You don't try to go viral.
I'm sure this will be a relatively viral video because people love it when others get their comeuppance, but everyone involved with this thing is just sad.
spaghettilee2112 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:05:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No way man that mickydees employee was spot on.
Dorskind ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 18:05:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She brought it up.
sandratcellar ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 17:16:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you explain your motivation? I've seen a lot of comments like yours, and I don't understand the thought process behind them.
"It's the fault of people giving money to pandhandlers. Pandhandlers themselves are doing nothing wrong".
"Never tell someone they don't have a disability. She may very well have one, which makes it alright".
"The guy is just salty that he's not getting in on the clever action. This woman is smart and deserves her money".
I'm paraphrasing, but I've seen a dozen comments like these so far.
Alkenes ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 18:21:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In regards to the first paraphrase. If I give someone on the side of the road money I understand that they may not be in need. If you can't accept that possibility then just don't give people your money, or give it to shelters instead. There's no need to harass people because they're faking, it just makes the world a more hostile place.
Voixoff ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 18:08:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We are not ignorants, hatefull and classists.
CrazyLeader ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 17:28:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're trying to shame her so she'll stop and other people like her won't do it. The sign said "Homeless" on it and she said she had a disability. Yet she's standing outside for hours and running up and down the sidewalk. Sounds like more work than my current job. There are actually people that are homeless and I would like it if people didn't pose as them. Even if they did it for the gotchya, it still will probably stop her and maybe others for fear of being publicly shamed
rattatally ยท -38 points ยท Posted at 17:58:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except that they shame her for their own perverted gratification not because they want to make the world a better place.
Detlef_Schrempf ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:11:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know why they do it?
rattatally ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 18:15:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because I know human nature.
Detlef_Schrempf ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 18:23:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, so if said only an asshole would use this kind of rationale and my reasoning was "because I know human nature" you'd. E fine with is?
rattatally ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 18:27:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure what you're asking.
rattatally ยท -73 points ยท Posted at 17:56:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the guys who film her for the gotchya. Honestly, I think it's really pathetic and petty-minded.
[deleted] ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 18:33:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost as petty-minded as begging for change while her car is nicer than mine. I do tree work for a living and useless human beings like this make me angry. Disability my ass.
Are investigative journalist petty-minded as well?
rattatally ยท -40 points ยท Posted at 18:37:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LMAO These idiots are not "investigative journalists", they're just trying to get clicks on youtube.
[deleted] ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 18:39:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sure seems they came up with some decent journalistic material that will most likely be paid for by news agencies.
I do hope they get paid for their work. She deserves to be exposed. Just like Hilary.
Johknee5 ยท -31 points ยท Posted at 18:39:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for speaking up. Everyone is so interested in what other people are doing. It doesnt matter if you think its wrong, its up to the individuals who are willing to give money to do the research on who they are giving money to.
Not some jack wagons trying to make a buck off of a viral video, or even trying to be social justice warriors. Get over yourselves, you're not doing anyone a justice.
_Sasquat_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:48:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This woman is obviously full of shit, but they didn't have more evidence against her other than her having a newer car? That in and of itself doesn't mean you can't be homeless.
nevercomindown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Props to attempting to sound smart while you willingly choose an already losing side, proved by said video.
nature_and_grace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is gonna go viral. Pauses It already is viral.
desiderius123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This just makes me angry.
whoknowseh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Up-Viraled and liked.
DavidDann437 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hold your head high and reach the top!
Baybutt99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i know exactly where this is , they are out there every day.
10cats1dog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But she's making people happy about their altruism! /s
gysergeezer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I lived in Charlotte riding the bus. Every day about every other black guy on the street would say "gimme a dollar " . I was like wtf is this for ?
Spaceman_Fry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to live in a city drowning in mental illness and homelessness.
The story from the new panhandlers was that they were being shipped there, from other cities and states, by police officers who were tired of arresting them.
It was a common enough story, and believable due to the Greyhound station downtown never lacked new faces. I had the fortune to work with the public, so most of the friendly strangers were good for the odd smoke or bit of change, until they eventually disappeared.
The only regulars we had were locals from the three different assisted living facilities in the area. Prestera was a huge provider in the area, with clients out numbering staff even during high tides of hiring.
The new people though, they would come through and pass quickly on to the next place they landed.
I can respect the nomadic lifestyle, but settling is part of human nature. No wonder so many crack around the edges after years with no village.
That lady, and others like her, deserve to be shamed. It's bad enough being homeless as is, without this shit.
Gopherson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sad sad lady....
xSpeedyMonkeyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly why I give homeless food or water. I don't want you to suffer, but I don't want my cash being spent on stupid shit youre addicted to or for you to exploit my kindness or anybody elses.
vactu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, my wife and I do the same.
Booksandcards ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like busking without skill.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
((((((((((()))))))))))
alex_dlc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First thing they should have done is film her sign to confirm that she's says she is homeless.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
video has 1400 views
xxBeatrixKiddoxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I lived in Bellingham twelve years ago I worked on Meridian. And at the exit and entrance to the main highway there by the mall there would always be like four random homeless people. They made a killing. Mostly cos Bham peeps are nice and also the Canadians were generous. Anyways after about a year of working and living there I heard that those people all resided together in a house and pooled their money. I recall I never gave them money but back in the day us Petsmart employees would get one bag of dog food a pay period and I always gave mine to the homeless dude w a dog.
hey401 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dang
ThunderCr0tch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love the singing right at the end lol.
she's running around begging "She works haaard for the money"
6chan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that a threat?
ErwinAckerman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/quityourbullshit
Kaeloso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like following the pan handlers where I live. I had a guy in dicks parking lot ask for help and I told them theres an autozone around the corner. As soon as I went in dicks and explained what happened they got their manager out there to yell at them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of something you might see on those reality shows about really cheap people...this woman just panhandles for all of her meal money
T92_Lover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"This is gonna go viral... it's already viral."
Heh.
MorphineBear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never buying anything at the McDonalds you park at... shame...
mysimsarehappier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These was this lady who would beg at a stoplight every day when I went to work. She would sob and act panicked. Some days she would have a fake pregnant belly and others she wouldn't. It was a shame to see the lies. Some days I noticed her giving the money to a guy. Seemed like he was working some sort of business.
superEpicRedditBoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find that hilarious.
AppleDane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know Fiat made cars that big...
noone111111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't get why someone who isn't homeless would want to do that anyway. It's bizarre. You're making what, a few dollars per hour?
xDuvelx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some of these panhandlers in nice areas walk away with a couple hundred dollars a day
noone111111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if they made a couple hundred a day (which can't be 365 anyway), that's still a pretty shitty job and wage. Why would I pan handle for $40-50K/year with no future when I could just get a job that easily pays the same and can move forward in life? What an awful life decision and waste of a life.
OldManAndTheBench ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People like this is why I'm skeptical about handing out change. While growing up in my city, I knew of kids who would go "homeless" for the summer but once the cold weather would come, they'd go back to their parents nice home in the burbs.
homesteaddaddy1290 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While I will admit she is a total pile of steaming shit, she's not dressed like a homeless person in her clean yoga atire, and people should be smarter than that to even give money to her in the first place.
raver6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why in God's name does she keep harassing the McDonald's employees?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone I know from work was recently seen begging on a town about 15 miles away. He got asked about it and said how much money he made was ridiculous.
Rellikten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
reminded me of this
TyroneTheDriver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These people make me sick.
weathermaker89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/justiceboner
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I made a sub a few years ago. r/fakebeggars
I-luv-boobies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
West end of RVA representing lol. I knew she was full of shit.
googlemaster1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once got taken by a professional panhandler who was famous in Seattle. I told my friend the story like "Yeah it was this old lady saying she ran out of gas..."
She then asked me clarifying questions about her and told me "yeah, no, that lady has a nice home and the news exposed her already".
I totally understand that this could be a mental disability as well, but this just seems a little too fishy to me.
Steelemdvor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who cares, give your money to reputable charities not to pan handlers if it bothers you this much.
Salesman89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To those saying they've been homeless and had a car... was it a fucking Fiat? This lady knows what she's doing is wrong and THREATENED THEIR LIVES!
captainp42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly a common practice.
Years ago, I was living in the Milwaukee area. I had a regular who proudly came in all the time and bragged that he regularly drove to Chicago and begged on street corners for money. The man drove a Cadillac. I banned him from the restaurant after he conned one of my servers out of a bunch of money (don't remember how much but it was enough).
AverageStormTrooper1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Someone's gonna end up killin' you!"
Can that be construed as a threat against the man behind the camera?
Ade5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well its not stealing as they say..
1987ruredy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like to watch videos and think about my own insecurities.
SilverWaterG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She is such a jerk
Camdennn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey look, it's a microcosm of the welfare system
Rimong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm convinced my aunt does this.
armandhammer777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolute garbage
trynagetrich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope there is a follow up video of her being arrested.
jonboy345 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me if this guy catching a woman who he's bought lunch for driving a nicer car than his in OKC.
https://youtu.be/hezYIvWjO6k
RichieGusto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mental disability?
Llesar_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is pretty disgusting behaviour. Can she atleast face any legal repercussions?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Irony alert: Her shirt says "I TRAIN while you SLEEP."
Emperosabi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's like an army of fake homeless people in my city who beg day in and day out at the same intersections and then they'll all get together and walk off to a distant parking lot and leave to go to their homes and whatnot.
The problem is that not every person there is a part of that group so it's hard to tell if it's the group or actual homeless people.
Canuck_fuk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people are so low.
midoctober ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me sad for the human race.
CatchMeWritinQWERTY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The damage this woman does to homeless people is two pronged: She takes extra cash someone might have given to the next panhandler they saw, AND she makes people less trusting of panhandlers and therefore less likely to give.
She sucks
clwu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My rule for homeless, If they have fully functioning arms and legs, don't EVER give them money.
Takeitinblood5k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry I didn't watch the whole video, but just because she has a car doesn't mean she isn't in need. She could be behind on payments house in foreclosure etc. Shit she could be sleeping in said car.
xSpeedyMonkeyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She could sell her (supposed) 2014 Fiat worth about 10k for a clunker for 3k and rent a nice place, clean up (which she visually looks fine), and get a day job to pay whatever bills she needs paid. If she truly has a disability then there are services you can turn to. Felons can still get jobs (Not easily). What this is is a woman that took an easy way out and has no sense of pride.
Takeitinblood5k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She can only sell it if she's done paying for it.
xSpeedyMonkeyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends how she bought it.
Centaurd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god. This woman posts up like a block over from where I've work. I've actually given her money coming back from lunch before. Can't believe I'm finding out like this...
EDIT: She even drives a nicer car than I do. I feel so stupid.
elconquistador1985 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's worse, someone who isn't homeless but pretends to be in order to get free money or a person who is willing to spend time and effort to out a fake homeless person when they could have spent their time and effort helping actual homeless people?
Frankly, the latter is worse to me.
Jloch98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I'm always skeptical of people that beg for money. For all you know they could be rich and you would have no idea.
whatthewhatk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Downtown St Pete is rampant with bums. My boyfriend brings ones with him so he can give them out and we will be left alone. I think it's ridiculous, Id rather ignore them. I have no sympathy for beggars, there are wayyyyyy too many resources to keep that from being necessary.
HouseOfPalm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that illegal?
balancedchaos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...why not just drive away?
Why extend the drama?
WarBeastPegasus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck this greedy bitch!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is really really sad
wjdrudwn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I have a disability!" Yea you probably do. A mental one.
7Sans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's just sad to see something like this.
I work in downtown Detroit and there is at least 3 "homeless" beggars near the I-375 exits; I can't tell if they're real because of people like this
I used to give couple change money here and there but from hearing from my colleges and etc now I just don't because I don't know if it's real
Pyrog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/cringe
Panda_911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, she is ruined now!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"someone is gonna kill you for harassing me" quote of the day
therestimeforklax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't give money to beggars.
CringeName ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the people that do this aren't actually in need. They just want money and know people will give it to them. You will be surprised how much these people make.
75percent-juice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is infuriating. It happens so much in my country and I can't help anyone, not even old people, because of this. They sometimes have big scale scams where "babysitters" send several kids to beg on the streets unbeknownst to their hard working lower midclass parents. Now I only give to firefighters (they don't get funded here) bc I can guarantee they will put it to good use.
Revircs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a person in AZ doing this same shit with a sign saying "Help me bury my son". People started calling him out after he was out there everyday for 4 months instead of getting a job. Once people stopped giving him money, he just moved to the other side of town.
Darkwolfie117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I swear to God if this vid is removed for 'witchhunting'...
Balakov_Gang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sounds like porn ....
gamjar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This seems really fake to me. Seems like just a good way to make a viral video.
FourFootProdigy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to the front page of Reddit!
rumster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good work! I have two stories on homeless people in Chicago. One I helped a man get food and transportation to the hospital after noticing a huge leg fracture he was just walking on. The man almost lost his leg. Second and bad story was a woman who faked being homeless such as this and I caught her getting in her Lincoln town car.
I give money to the homeless but I notice minor things to see if they are legit.
Airilin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously? People give this lady money? She looks like the least homeless person on earth
schpeucher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Throwback to John Stossels segment https://youtu.be/uA1NXKBigJk
theneverman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Excuse me Ms. Drive-thru attendant; please arrest these 2 for bothering me. Cuff 'em with onion rings; oh rats that's right you don't serve onion rings.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is one reason why I don't give to homeless people.
smallpoly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here around Santa Barbara, I've had almost entirely good experiences with the homeless. There's even a famous one called Pirate (Raymon Lucero), who tells great stories. He finally got sober around a year ago and is maintaining a job now. I really hope he keeps it up.
myexguessesmyuser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a guy who had a great story about having newborn children and assuring people that he did not need money he only needed diapers for his kidsโฆ Very sympathetic, seemingly no way it could be a scamโฆ He would go to the ghetto and sell diapers for a dollar each out of the package. Quite the little hustle.
mr3inches ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it illegal to beg for change if you aren't homeless?
morex87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so thats how she trains while you sleep.. too damn bad tho
bogidyboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"SOMEONE IS GOING TO KILL YOU"
Lolololol she wanted to strangle him so badly for blowing her cover
Grover_Cleavland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my town, there's a lady that panhandles who's been pregnant for two years. It's obviously a scam but she's out there all the time with a basketball up her shirt.
LtPatterson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is much more common than many think. Donate to a real charity who helps the homeless rather than give money to anyone who is homeless. Or give them food.
filmester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for posting!
Attica_Sc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always am torn when I watch videos like this. On one hand, I hate the pieces of shit who take advantage of people's generosity, and l get a justice boner when they're exposed. On the other, I worry that these videos will reduce the already limited amount of help given to people in dire need.
VitameatavegamN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fake homeless person? That's like 10% of the population of Murfreesboro, TN.
I_Nice_Human ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This just in, people lie for money.
More at 11
nmnoz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe next time she doesn't beg for money but she begs for people to stop these guys from not recording her lol
PM_YOUR_SOURCECODE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...And this is why I pretty much never give money to people on the street like this.
JuicyJoints6969 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Takes a lot of courage and hate to do something like this...
Wirly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She seemed like your run of the mill crazy lady
Nelly_platinum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
funny thing is we have a kid (well 19 i think) who does this by the mall.he got posted all over our local fb for sale groups for doing this.even got recorded by police telling him he cant do this anymore after people provided pics he wasnt homeless and of his car
DOPE_AS_FUCK_COOK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great now shes going to come to /r/Roanoke.
vinnythehammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"She works haaaard for the money" Best part
Isolatia79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Professional victims are the worst
tomasienrbc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard stories of "fake homeless people" begging for money and becoming well to-do my entire life. It's manufactured. To the extent that it happens it's rare, and if anyone has actually become "well to-do" as a result it is one in a literal million.
mrdude817 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"very focused, very dedicated"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is how I think ever redditor who has a second account and trolls ends up looking like. sad and lonely.
HoTs_DoTs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Last year on my birthday I was having a good day. Was gassing up my car and a girl approached me asking for money and said car broke down, etc....I didn't really trust her but I was happy and I gave her 20 bucks, I didn't need it. One week later, 2 miles down (at another gas station) she approaches me. Doesn't even remember me. I pretty much stated "oh so you're a liar?' and she was like 'what?' and I said "ummm you did this to me on my birthday last week" and she responded with "oh..." and she walked away from that gas station, immediately. Fool me once, well...you know the saying.
aworthyrepost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant scene
datdutho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tbh though, has anyone thought about doing this? Like having a job where you make a good living, say 80-100k salary, but on the weekends just pretending your homeless. I've thought about buying a super nice suit, like $2000-$3000, and being completely decked out in diamonds and gold jewelry, just the absolute image of materialistic wealth (maybe add a gold apple watch and super expensive yeezy shoes), and begging for money to see what people's reaction would be. I am actually so curious what people would do and I would probably laugh my ass off if someone asked me for money. First recorded incident of a pedestrian asking a homeless man for money/help.
bottyliscious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The mere fact she thought she could motivate some random bystanders to her cause as a fake-homeless person preying on the generosity of others makes me wonder if she does have some serious mental issues (not a disability obviously, she observably high functioning, just evil).
She could have NPD (narcissistic personality disorder):
QuantumBeef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is yet another reason to not give money to the beggars on every street corner. There are usually state programs that will give then food and a roof to sleep under as long as they aren't drunk or high when they show up.
These people on the corner want to get drunk and do drugs that they cannot afford. Either that or they are con artists. Don't feed their downward spiral and enable their lifestyle. It's pointless to help someone that refuses to help themselves.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can be homeless and still have a car, but her car's a bit tooo nice lol
cleancutmover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly I think most people begging on the side of the road are full of it, so I never give out money. I've seen the same girl in front of South Station in Boston for 14 years with a sign begging for money to get a bus home.
I volunteered in college for a homeless advocacy group, the 1st thing I learned was that most homeless people are not on the street or unemployed, but underemployed and living with friends or family. They just cannot make enough money to stand on their own. Unfortunately the public thinks of homeless people as the beggars and are reluctant to help the cause due to this misrepresentation of the situation. The people you see on the streets are addicts and drunks.
JZN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These scavengers are everywhere. Shame on the people who give them money. Its clear they aren't homeless. Clean, new clothes and shoes, nothing amongst them they would need in order to survive such as a sleeping bag or personal necessities. Nope, just time and a freshly made cardboard lie about being homeless.
I saw one at the mouth of a Walmart parking lot wearing fucking glitter. Literally did the Saturday morning cock walk of shame to panhandle in club clothes.
Don't fall for it.
*edit. Tough to find one of these needy scumbags when its raining out. Odd, wouldn't you say?
Thenadamgoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its like they are having a trial and the drive thru its the judge.
Whatsthisaboot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because of people like this I no longer give anyone change.
Skithana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd be surprised at the amount of "homeless" that aren't homeless at all and actually have quite a bit of money.
DoubleE55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never give panhandling people money. If someone is begging outside of a fast food place I'd give them some food or water, never money. That's how you tell the difference between actually desperate people and the fakers.
Hudson818 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit, that's going down in my home state. I hope people stop giving her money for sure.
tony1378 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had this happen in Deep Ellum in Dallas in the late 90's. A "homeless" guy was harassing me for money, which I didn't have, got loud and very aggressive. Later as I was leaving, I see him getting into a brand new Explorer. That was the end of me ever giving money to a beggar again.
Camelbus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought, "wow this happens in Richmond VA all the time" video starts playing, says it's in Richmond Va. yup. Don't be too surprised this literally happens all the time here. Especially up near VCU with the high flow of people. These shameless people beg full time students who are trying to do things with their lives.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homeless or not, if somebody is desperate enough to beg they clearly need help. Whether or not thats money or a psychiatrist, i don't know, but acting like shes stolen valor or some shit is a bit much.
mrtrashwheel2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I TRAIN WHILE YOU SLEEP"
Wow, what a hard working lady.
rocinantethehorse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To anybody driving from LA to the BAY, do NOT give money to the poor old ladies whose car "broke down" in the small town along the 5. They are doing this exact same shit, except they're getting people who are just stopping through town for gas so people wont call them out.
yunggoldensmile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Making my city look bad !! Smh
TrumpIsOurOnlyHope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shame!
BigBlueJAH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why does this have to be my hometown? You see these kind of people on a lot of busy intersections usually in nicer parts of town.
Eaaaase ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like how she asks the random McDonalds employee who never saw anything "why they're doing this" to her
MattColeO1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She asked the lady at McDonalds as if she was gonna turn to a super hero and save her.
LouieKablooie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend is OP! You so famous! First link on the front page!!!! You've peaked.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So homeless she nothing her but a sign, clean-weather appropriate clothes and a new car.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I only give money to animal shelters / rescues. Can't trust people as far as you can throw them, but animals are innocent and honest.
faithle55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sit by the car and wait until she comes back to it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Disability check not enough to fund her crack/meth/heroin addiction
SnuffXP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn! All three!?!?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hopefully not.
hungaryforchile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've given gift cards to cheap fast food places, like McDonalds or Taco Bell, and that's been pretty well received. A $10 gift card to one of those places can buy a few meals, if they're strategic. I hope it was helpful :/, but that was the best compromise I could find between wanting to help and making sure I didn't get taken advantage of/have food angrily thrown back in my face.
goyotes78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! There's a lady that does (did?) this in Midland, TX who has one leg and wears a sign that says "On My Last Leg." She made a killing before being videotaped getting into her brand new Infiniti SUV in the Wal-Mart parking lot. Not sure if she's still down there or not.
remlik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The worst part for me is having to try and explain this to my bleeding heart 11 year old daughter. She would give you her shoes if you asked and looked like you needed it. Yes there are people who need help, and we should help them, but not everyone does. How do you tell the difference? I said the best way to help is to either volunteer time at homeless shelters and soup kitchens or to work on clothing/food drives through the church or other local organizations who help make sure the needy actually get the help they need.
HyJedi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx8zlgjQ-rg
TrowwayFiggenstein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Can I get some muscle over here?"
Oh_Hamburger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Go away, you stupid!"
When you have literally nothing else to come back at them with...
Rocko9999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see this quite often now. Many 'homeless' beggars doing begging as a job.
Sunshine_of_Darkness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People like her ruin it for real homeless people. How many people are going to give money to a homeless person if they know they could be faking it?
zlassiter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
we had a local journalist do this a few years ago around my area.
Inf1n1tyBFIT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was anyone else wishing he would have thrown a little DMX bark in there when she was talking about barking up the wrong tree.
atticusfinch2112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/quityourbullshit
twomillcities ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahahah how did she not know that poor and homeless people can't borrow cars from people or have cars purchased for them?!? Duh. If you're poor you should be naked and only weigh 60 lbs. Anything more and you're just a filthy moocher.
Hit__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly....people are stupid to give those who beg for money instead of earning it. So I blame the people. You can donate to homeless shelters if you'd really like to help
pokersoaker13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually sickening to think that people actually do this shit
Plisken999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like how she just faces the first clerk for like a minute speechless and letting the camera dude filming and just destroy her.
She clearly needs help.. but lying saying you are homeless to beg money when she has a quite a nice car is just wrong.
gray_gb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well we got her good work was done today.
thelectrician ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if you want to help poor and homeless, you should do it through institutions.
fruitycheerios77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of those 'fake valor' videos that used to get posted around a lot
emokneegrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dont bark around me...
iemploreyou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is an Insurance Doctor?
LargeBerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I too support bringing back crucifixion
myslimfatmuslim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You're barking up the wrong tree" "Well I bark wherever I wanna bark" "Well you don't bark around me"
And the award for the whitest quarrel goes to.........
JimmyBVlogz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just blows my mind it has to be explained...LOL
danksouls666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guy I my town drives a benz and does the same thing guys actually crazy no one seems to lay it on him
GroundhogExpert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a disgusting and detestable bitch. I hope people start vandalizing her car every time she parks in public to go beg for money.
bottyliscious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At 0:15 I would love to be a fly on the windshield of that conversation to know why she starts shaking the sign...
tlk666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want to be nice say in a coherent manner, but fuck that bitch foreal son.
PineapplePosse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ever since the episode of Manswers aired it seems people are doing this fake homeless shit more and more.
StaticReversal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In downtown Chicago I once noticed a group of three people (2 guys, 1 woman) talking in hushed tones looking like they were casing the corner. They looked out of place which caught my attention. The next week I saw the same woman sitting on the same corner with her legs straight out onto the sidewalk pretending to be disabled literally screaming about how she needed help (money). Thankfully (?) everyone I saw ignored her. I was tempted to step on her and give her something to really yell about.
CurraheeAniKawi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What'd her sign say? Maybe it said "I am not homeless, but consider myself disabled - please give me free money" lol
halalchampion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a world of selfjustice i would have smacked the hell out of that woman the moment she said someone is gonna kill you. Trying to threaten this guys life subliminally because they're exposing your shady "business".
I know it's messed up, but there is something seriously wrong with a person like her feeling so safe to do whatever she wants without any sort of repercussion.
Trooper1226 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The nature of her disability is being retarded
Asquared1205 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This woman has MD plates. At least she isn't conning people from her home state lol.
superchibisan2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think people realize that begging for change is a hard job. You have to stand there for HOURS and be bored, all day, dealing with people that want nothing to do with you.
Dunno, it sounds pretty shitty to me. I wouldn't do it.
GanasbinTagap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
her whole face tenses when she realises just how bad she messed up, that driving away was probably the best idea
TychoSean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are ladies in the Bay Area that panhandle with small infants, either on the train or on the street. I have heard that the kids aren't even theirs, and that they might be being paid as nannies, then they take the kid like a prop out in public to earn even more. I have to stop myself from calling CPS every time because I don't want to be that guy...
DoctoreVodka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is so fucked up?
Icon_Crash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then there's this guy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjOtTwZLxkA
narwhalyurok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a guy at my local intersection with a sign that said "Will work for Food." I didn't know that it was a scam. I pulled over, thinking I could use a lot of work done on my small farmette and even could pay money besides a good lunch, and I walked back to the guy offering a job. The guy was totally offended about the work offer and kind of aggressively wanted just money. He never intended to want to work. "F**k you man" was all I heard as I walked away.
kaledharam1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stupid woman, banking off others hard work
klaatu422 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen a shift change of sorts at an intersection. Looked super organized and pre-arranged with a third guy organizing it. There was even a little handoff to the guy.
dont_wear_a_C ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only in the US will you find people who beg for money. And ironically enough, when you see Hispanic folk on the freeway exits (compared to white folk), they're actually selling something instead begging for money.
People call Hispanics lazy? But they're always working. Even in Mexico. It's rare to see a phenomenon like begging for money, unless you're handicapped in a physical or mental way, over there. People will work for money, but never beg for money.
This video is a prime example of the perfect irony with Americans constantly calling Hispanics lazy.
SuperMar1o ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same bs in Missouri. Had people multiple times ask me for gas money, I always offer to take them to the gas station and buy them gas. Been told "don't worry about it man, I 'll go ask this other guy" and then they leave to go bother someone else.
Only ONE time has someone actually taken me up on this and guess what, he got free has. Not sure if he really needed the gas, but I'd rather that then give my money away.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I ran into a lot of this bullshit in Bakersfield and in the end, it helped me decide to never give handouts of any kind, to anyone, ever again.
I remember this guy coming up to me, saying he needed money for a prescription for his medication. His foot was all fucked up and full of pus, just nasty.
There was a Walgreens literally a block away. I told him I wouldn't give him money, but I'd walk with him to Walgreens and pay for his script.
He refused, instead demanding money. I told him to go get fucked.
TheTruthHurts1908 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this just goes to show that trump supporters are mentally unstable
iKnoJopro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"What do you want from me, you stupid!" Damn she really got them...
shplongl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Either give her money or don't. That should be the end of it. If she isn't being aggressive I don't see how it's hurting anyone. Lying? People lie all the time, especially in sales. These guys are jerks. They have nothing better to do than harass her for a video to post on their YouTube channel. I don't know what her issue is. Maybe she is a piece of shit, I don't know. I do know that you can't tell what someone's story is just by looking at them.
I1lI1llII11llIII1I ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LPT - Almost EVERY person you see begging like this is not homeless. Time and again I've offered people who have signs saying "no food" breakfast. They either refuse or take it and throw it away. They can make more money standing there than doing real work. I don't give anyone money or food anymore.
ShutChoMEOWTH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her disability is laziness. What a scummy bitch
RichardMcNixon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in the comments, paging /r/tumblrinactionLooks like i've been satire'd
whoops
http://i.imgur.com/yNgrncJ.png
mrjeIIyfish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
??? Lol how is this sexist at all? Just because shes a woman? This is why I avoid tumblr or anything related
GoiterGlitter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're that blind to satire?
RichardMcNixon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit, you're right. I mean, I didn't know until I looked at "her" videos, and the first one is obvious satire IMO. The comment could have gone either way though. Eh, i'll edit my comment
drmchan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wild "homeless" lady flees from her main means of escape. she chooses the fight option by finding her local mcdonald's employees to defend her
the attack was not very effective...
NeonCheese1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OOF
ThePandyMayn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See them every where.... To avoid
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol. Im leaving right now. Im going to be a beggar in the us.
david0990 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
get a sign to stand next to her all day. "she drives (insert car yr/make/model/license) and is begging for your cash". she either tries to find a new spot, so you follow and use the same sign. she may get violent, or she calls the police. either one of those 2 and now she has to explain to authorities why she is lying to get money(from the video she doesn't seem to want to call the cops). Let the scum rot while you inform those around she is lying.
Imak312 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not only could she not defend herself, but also threatened those guys.
Johknee5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What does her shirt say??
DrTots- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From what I can tell, Most of the actual homeless people don't even bother to beg, theirs plenty of shelters and programs to help them.
iBu11et ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They have doors to the McDs. You don't have to walk up to the drive through. You can make an even bigger scene inside the restaurant. Maybe there's even an ACLU attorney in there eating his McNuggets.
Diodon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
0311 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You don't bark around me!"
I love the things people say when they're flustered.
jennyCKC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not shocked that she tried to get the McDonald staff to handle it
Bmandk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet you in a few days or something, her "real story" is going to be leaked, and she "actually has a disability". A donation fund is started for her, and she (they) make a ton of money.
bri111e ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guess she never graduated highschool.
suztoyou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good for you!
muchobucho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe instead of working out/training and panhandling....she can get a job.
Phuket_Bucket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not to late for the brigade, am I?
rogwilco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People like this are the reason so many of us hesitate to give to panhandlers. In general it's more effective to donate to well vetted charities, but what if I do have spare change in my pocket? What if it really would help out some dude who's starving or looking for a bus ride? Because of people like this I (along with many others) will always have doubts, and guess who suffers? The people actually needing help. Fuck this woman and everyone that does this. Every opportunity should be afforded to publicly shame these people, and if possible, prosecute them for fraud. Maybe some mandatory service at a homeless shelter would be a suitable punishment.
ImMrMeeseekzLookAtMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's because of these disgusting people become so sceptical of giving money to homeless people, to the point where they don't give any at all. She's fucking scum.
redditfetishist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
is it illegal to say someone is going to kill you?
Adadgumscott ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So there are over 12k upvotes and the video shows 6.2k views. For shame Reddit.
zoahporre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only shame is that you dont know how youtube counts views.
owen1212 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This has been the worst trade deal of all time
HITNRUNXX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In most cities panhandling is legal, though you often have to get a permit for it.
Also, in most cities, fraud is defined as false representations for personal gain... So if she is making money by holding a sign saying she is homeless, and she isn't homeless, then she is likely breaking the law on top of making things harder for actual homeless people.
I'm also curious if she is reporting all of that money on her taxes and as income against her disability payments.
GamingWithBilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Somebodies going to kill you"
I laughed at work and everyone looked at me. oops.
Changsta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why do people still give money to panhandlers? Just fucking stop and these people will slowly disappear.
Kvmabis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Working at a live monitoring company I see fake homeless people all the time, fake injured panhandlers, fake wheelchair bound people. Some have cellphones and tablets asking for money. I feel bad but after this job I don't give homeless money. Living in my area everyone you're a gas station you'll get a creative story about how they need a dollar for a number of things. I just stopped giving people money.
mega512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even like asking my parents for $20 let alone begging on the streets to strangers. Have some self respect.
pheonix2OO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think she is mod of /r/lifeprotips, /r/getmotivated and /r/upliftingnews.
willie1707 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's fucked up, I usually tell people that I will buy them some food or some bottled water. When they tell you that they just need the cash, that is usually a sign that they are full of shit. Not always, but for the most part. I was going to a sandwich shop and there was a guy that came up and asked me for a few bucks because he was starving. I told him I was going to a sandwich shop and if he gave me like 15 minutes I would bring him a hot sandwich and he told me that he would really appreciate it and that's what he was going to use the money for anyways. So after I eat my food I get an extra sandwich and a glass of water and bring it to him and he ate the sandwich so fast that he got almost got choked. When I realized that he was seriously hungry I gave him the rest of the cash in my wallet ( I think it was 23 or 24 dollars) and the guy legit started crying. I remember him telling me that he knows that I won't remember him, but he will never forget me. I think about this guy constantly and wonder how he is doing today. I don't think anyone should have to go hungry. The fact that this woman is doing this bullshit makes me realize how many people out there could really use the money.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom actually keeps a stack of gift cards with her for homeless people. They have $5 max on them, you should see some of the responses the homeless give when they get them.
clamps12345 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just to keep everyone grounded in reality, real homeless people do exist and don't always look as homeless as they are. I felt terrible the other day because someone asked me for spare change and i didn't have any or offer any bills and immediately after i crossed the street i saw him start eating out of the trash.
Eat1nPussyKickinAss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This needs to be posts on as many subs as possible. Esp any ones local to that area.
haccthaplanet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The drive through worker can't even get your order right, what the heck are they gonna do?
stouk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not fake homeless. Professional homeless.
TheFearsomeFoursome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was expecting this to be the homeless lady I encountered once. I pulled up to a stop light and decided to give her some food. She comes to my door and I say, "hey I don't have any money but I can give you this chick-fil-a sandwich" and she declined. She said "no thanks, I already ate. I have sandwich meat at home. But thank you." It was petty bizarre.
Edit: accidentally hit send halfway through
Creepy_OldMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shitttt I could use some extra cash on the side too not gonna lie
Sircheeze89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What blows my mind is that she asks a McDonald's worker for help. Ya know, someone working for (probably) minimum wage and (probably) driving a junker.
SweetDick_Willy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Although, I agree that we should definitely expose people who "fake" being homeless, but just because someone has a car does not mean that they are not homeless. Some people live in their cars.
ThatFag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's fucking baffling me is the fact that she's going to absolutely random fucking people and complaining about being "harassed" by them? Like, what the fuck are they supposed to do? What can they do that she herself can't? That whole thing was just fucking confusing.
ipresident ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All the fakers always hope for a white knight, reminds me of emily from r/2007scape except she faked cancer for money...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seen more than one panhandler in Austin TX get into a nice car parked nearby after their "shift" was over.
They also hold signs saying things like they can't find roofing work because of the wet weather etc, but see the same guy out there 6 months later in good weather. See the same ones out there 2 years later.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
Cassius_Rex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a guy walk up to my car while I was in line at a fast food restaurant. He was holding a folded McDonald's bag and told me that the lady in front of my had been nice enough to give him money for a couple burgers and could i spare some change for a drink and a dessert.
I said sure and thinking I was doing my good deed for the day I gave him 5 bucks. he took it without a word and walked off, not towards the door to the restaurant, but towards the damn liquor store behind it. I saw him in my rear view mirror throw the bag he was holding in the trash.
I had half a mind to go after him, then I realized that it was me who had been foolish. Lesson Learned.
PatchesNgravy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol she definitely has a disability a mental disability. Lol this is the first interesting thing ive seen on reddits frontpage in maybe a year lol
indefinito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the weirdest version of "The Net" to date...
jayraxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bark wherever I wanna bark!
gr8banter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You're barking up the wrong tree!"
"I bark wherever I wanna bark"
love it lmao
uhavebeenbanned ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The McDonald's employees should act like it's ok then tow her car next day
dintclempsey ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:14:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tried toeing a car once, it was fucking painful.
zintone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love how the drive thru lady waved or smiled at the camera when they said "this will be viral" XD
nightcrawlerCRD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dumb bitch, they should have called the cops for her telling them someones gonna kill them
DJScotchTape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm- begs for money all over Richmond.
Source: I live in Richmond and have seen her
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i would totally have a vagrancy story with her even let her come live with me in my coop apartment!
these idiots just went and picked a fight with some homeless woman y??? to badger her obviously!
Rossticles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Can you tell me why they're doing this?"
Ummmmmmmmmmm.
thecouchpundit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homeless or not, I'm not sure that giving cash to people actually helps them.it seems to simply extend their current situation.
I'm sure there are exceptions, but it seems that most homeless end up that way because they can't handle the resources they had and need more than a hand out to get back on top of the basic skills for keeping a job, managing money, and kicking a substance abuse issue or getting meds/treatment for mental illness.
Giving money to homeless seems to only help those that give assuage their guilt.
xxhamzxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked downtown in Halifax, Canada, and there's quite a few "homeless" on the main drag. I'd walk to get a coffee every morning and I'd get asked by 5 people for change.
Anyways, I worked for a local TV/internet provider and one of the girls that was always on the same corner would come in very month and pay her cable bill, which was usually around $200~.
I looked up her address and she lived in a pretty nice neighborhood as well... In the winter time some of them would have Canadian Goose jackets which can range from $300-600.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Why are they doing this? What do they want?" Oh, here's another random McD's employmee fresh from takIng the trash out... "They keep harassing me! What do they want?"
StoIen_memes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/quityourbullshit
relyks-sparks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I just work here."
Tinkzalot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Question! If a woman says, "Someone is going to kill you-" during an altercation like this, can someone legally put her in a headlock until police arrive? I wouldn't be able to stand idle and let someone leave my sight while threatening me or someone else's life. Threats like that can't go unpunished.
erik_with_a_k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh the outrage! This woman is not in dire need, yet she is bilking the hardworking citizens of this town out of hundreds of dollars every month!!
Know what I want to see? I want to see a video just like this, but the subject is a multi-bajillionaire that is using offshore accounts and tax loopholes to bilk ALL AMERICANS out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. THOSE are the people that need to be exposed and harassed.
ronatonx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen this before!
Evilmuskie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This behaviour is employed across all levels of society lifestyle. Yes she begs change while driving an SUV but this also happens in professionals looking for Nickle and dime when they overinflate their travel expenses and other things.
Magneticitist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
she expects everyone else to handle her problems for her in this entire video
n8toxic21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damnnnn
Plarbatha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Typical liberal.
REEEEEEEE
DefconDelta88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm indignant so I'm going to act all kinds of confused so I don't have to admit I'm actually a shitty person. Ah yes, I'm going to drag this involved person into it and demand answers from them."
I bet the IRS would love to see this.
cactuskid1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh good she is gone, now I can take her place, will leave the corvette at home though hehehe
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roasted
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love this soooooooo much. "That's a nice ride."
Instead of just covering her face and getting into the car, she runs around looking for an authority figure that can tell these people off. Strange behavior.
SpicyBeardedWarlock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How come no one has exposed Elizabeth Warren yet?
ohhwerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why i never carry cash, can't give money, if you don't have on you to give
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit! That close to me! There are truly too many panhandlers in southeast Virginia
Sir-Sniffs-your_seat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup,. Hit that.
zoahporre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Panhandlers are shit!
Worst people in existence, they are ALL criminals. If you have given them money youve been stolen from.
NoCatsPleaseImSane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me sum this up:
If you want to help the homeless, find a charity that does that with transparency and oversight.
TotesMessenger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a bot, bleep, bloop. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit:
[/r/commentunlock] Fake Homeless Woman Exposed โข r/videos
[/r/drama] mods in /r/videos lock drama over doxxing of /u/phedre's mother
[/r/misanthropy] Fake Homeless Woman Exposed โข r/videos
[/r/pka] Topic suggestion [Video to watch]: Fake Homeless Woman Exposed
If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads. (Info / Contact)
SuitedRIP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll never forget that dude at Boston inner harbor who had brand new Jordans on under his rags.
useridhere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm. Maryland license plate on her car.
blind_devotion08 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This woman clearly needs help, but not for the reason she's asking.
JAG319 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why does this have 16k upvotes and the video only has 7k views
cebjmb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people make $200/day doing this. Tax free.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who the fuck cares. She not selling something... She is begging for change. If thats what she chooses to do with her life, good for her. She hasnt forced anybody to give her money and there is no law that says you have to live in a box to panhandle. Is it sad... sure. But exactly how has she conned people. If somebody is asking for money on the corner and I feel compelled to give them some of my hard earned cash, I dont ask for a resume in the process.
Speedking2281 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, the guy in the video says that her panhandling sign says "homeless" and she doesn't deny it, so I think that's kind of a con.
Saw_Boss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Odd. 16k upvotes, only 8k views.
aerovado ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Richmond, I will be on the lookout for her. No homeless granola bars for you.
710chemist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can someone do this in Greeley, CO?
taxidriver1138 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to to live in an apartment complex that was off a service road so everytime I had to leave I would go down the service road to this big intersection that was panhandler central. I guess some people give goodie bags with deodorant, snacks, toothpaste, etc and I saw two of the panhandlers leave and get into a nice newer model Mitsubishi Lancer in the McDonald's parking lot and just left the goodie bags behind.
JODIELOWOLLER ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A woman at a gas station said she couldn't afford gas, asking people for money. She pulled off in a Lamborghini out of nowhere
dixadik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't she need to report that income to the IRS? Not only is she preying on people's good intentions she is also not paying her fair share.
2uiop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a small part of why I don't give any money to any homeless people ever.
Jarrell1221 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RVA WE MADE IT
radseven89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is definitely a Fiat 500x. They only started making them in 2014. Even the cheapest ones run for about 15k. This one looks brand new so its more like 20k. This homeless woman has a newer car than I do.
KiloLee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, /u/sk_rva, you went from local hero to front page legend.
GhostlyPickles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a dirty bitch.
elderjedimaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let's get this person more famous than Martin Schrewface-li
lukc1987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is no need to give money to the homeless. A portion of our taxes already goes to welfare and I think thats enough. Thank you.
InSixFour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I never give money to anyone. I have no problem whatsoever giving money to people in need. But I don't trust any panhandlers anymore. I have no idea which ones are legit. It's really sad that people like her ruin it for those that truly need help.
ohshitineedmusic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The employees facial expression when OP points out which car is the ladys us fucking great
Heisenberg991 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where is the link to the tv news crew that did this.
BoringWebDev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Someone is gonna kill yew!"
WHO. WHO DO YOU KNOW THAT WILL KILL ME? IS THAT A FUCKING THREAT? THE FUCK ARE YOU ON???
President_Troll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck all people that beg for money and fuck our government for not giving assistance to people that really fucking need it.
I have started a new thing where I buy cans from the store and fucking throw that shit as hard as possible to vagrants begging that I see gambling at the casino all the time.
NotARealPenguinToday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HAH I've seen her
Spoontasic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had a woman that would sit out with her small children when the weather started to get nice. I frequented the area for work and she was out with them a lot, just different spots. Never saw her towards the area where the restaurants were. Guess she didn't want people offering to buy them food. Just cash please.
The first and only time I encountered her up close she said one of the things she was too broke to do was get her youngest their next set of immunization shots. My friend happens to do a community out reach program that provides either free or next to nothing cost for these shots. She wasn't interested in my charity. Okay, but if I gave you money that would be all right? Good to know.
If memory serves me right one of the kid's dad's family members recognized them and she was busted that way. She picked an area that was far enough from home that she thought no-one she knew would see her I guess.
Anytime I see someone sitting out with little kids it just makes my heart sink and I wonder how many people use their own kids as props like that lady did.
PM_me_your_muscle_up ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish the panhandler ring in my town was exposed.
HuntredX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anybody witchhunted her skinny ass yet?
feedagreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And she has Maryland tags on her car. She is either driving from Maryland to Richmond to panhandle, or she is avoiding paying Virginia taxes on her car to scam the system even more.
why_fucking_bother_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She deserves an ass kicking.
At minimum she deserves punishment for threatening a man's life.
m3th0d1989 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately, people like this is the reason I don't give money to homeless anymore... You just can't tell anymore.
PopulousEnthusiast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I have never given a beggar any money, and I never will.
PregnantMilf3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PHONY
justagimmick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I got a few problems" lmao
58akaFIF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
salute to the guys that exposed this vile human being
Tallgates ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a couple that has a 45,000 SUV that ask for money on the side of our freeway.
We don't really have a national conversation about the homeless and what is being done to stop it , so stuff like this continues.
4567898761 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was an expose' on the Salt Lake news a while back. Buncha people doing that. The were dropped off from a van, and picked up in the evening and were staying in an upscale home..
instantbitcoins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That LAdy was Fake
abhinavwow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"These people won't leave me alone", yeah the McDonald's employees are going to help you.
Wisemagicalhags ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you give beggars anything give them good. Don't give them money
palmtrees2blizzards ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a woman in an suv pull up on the street and ask me for money for gas, she had her 3 young daughters in the car with her... I obviously gave her the few dollars i had. But i have a suspicion she just drives around nice areas of town scamming well dressed white guys... her spiel was to well practiced
PM_ME_CLITS_ASAP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a suspicion of a homeless group that I pass like everyday on my way to the gym. on my way to the gym I go by the street that they ask for money on my way back I pass a street that they don't ask for money. and on my way back I see them hiding from the drivers on the street they beg on while they smoke and use their cellphones.
MGM2112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's one evil bitch. Messed up.
highRPMfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If people like this just held signs that said "I'm not homeless but please give me money" then no one would be mad.
MontyCruz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is disgusting.
forevernomad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was homeless for a period, and I met tourists, people who had jobs and homes but when they took holidays they would just be homeless for a few weeks, then go back to their lives. Also saw the opposite, people who were really homeless but went to a real job everyday, the world is an odd place.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never give money, give food and supplies instead. That way it can help if they're real and it'll be pretty useless if they're fake. To be fair though, she could've been made homeless recently and the vehicle is all she has, that would explain her nice vehicle. He should've tailed her a bit in a vehicle to see if she goes home.
springbreakbox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't feed the strays.
Ap0R1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"someone's going to end up killing you" x2
Threats noted twice. Subject is now liable to arrest
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They should have followed her and confronted her in the parking lot of her house.
Finum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I am going into a store a few years ago and see this guy approaching. I immediately size him up as a panhandler and he confirms by asking for money and trying to share his down-and-out story. I give him the nope and go inside.
While inside the store I start my inner dialogue and examination of my handling of the beggar. I think that if he was indeed sincere maybe I should just once actually help him. I resolve to do so and go back outside. The exchange is as follows:
Me: Hey man if you and your daughter really need to get into the salvation army tonight I will take you there now and pay for both of you.
Beggar: I can't go I have my bike here.
Me: That is no problem. I have a truck. Throw it in the back.
Beggar: My daughter gets off school in 2 hours and she expects me to be here.
Me: OK - we will go to the SA and I will bring you back.
The beggar paused considering this.
Beggar: C'mon man I just need some money!
Me: I am offering what to do what you said you needed and I am not just giving you cash.
He then mumbled something and walked off.
I know this is pure anecdote and there are plenty of genuinely needy people but damn....
GrantTheGeek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow,She's A Bad Person
Microwave_Pizza_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at that hamburglar
Osod3Caramelo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't visited my home town in almost 3 years or so. When I decided to go with my family to revisit some old spots where I used to hang out, I swear I was asked for money or change every 5 minutes. I was so annoyed.
I came arrived back to my home and bumped into a man with a bucket, windex, and rags. He approached me and asked if he could clean all my windshields for a dollar. I said sure, gave him 3 bucks and bought him a cold sprite. It was a hot day and thought he could use a cold drink.
I guess we can approach this in a positive way. Provide me a service and you get money for the service. It could be something simple or small, such as telling a joke.
ktreektree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow The Mcdonalds didn't help her? Aren't fast food employees obligated to solve all your problems? They should have at least given her some free big mac coupons. Right?
President_Troll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is this piece of shit I play poker with and I see him panhandling for money on a weekly basis. Last week I came off the freeway and he was there and I stretched out my hand with a $20 bill and he came running up to my car and I said "FUCK YOU" and drove off.
shwarma_heaven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have a neighborhood family that does this. No proof that they are fake yet, just a feeling. All perfectly healthy, and young, and always at the same corner. Different person for each day of the week, but almost guarantee same family.
Do not give money to "homeless" people. Instead donate to the local homeless shelter. Many of these people are either on drugs, scamming or a little of both.
RMis2VULGAR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't seen anyone mention the part when she said that he could find himself getting killed! wtf!? crazy nut.
Monorail5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you see homeless with a little day bag with water and a sandwich, probably fake IMO. If they have a big bag of all their belongings, probably more likely to be real. In seattle, just buy Real change paper from a vendor with a badge, don't give money at freeway off-ramps.
zeeshan243 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amazing
B_VULCaN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My response would've been so simple if she had approached me... "I'm sorry ma'am, I'm fresh outta sympathy. You're more than welcome to check back later, have a nice day!" ๐
ArmenianPepsi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Such scum.
themarkattack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact if you are a drug dealer and get shot dealing drugs. You now qualify for disability benefits. Now you can deal drugs and get disability benefits.
Ruidan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is disgusting. Every time I see a panhandler I feel so horrible given their situation, this is just spitting in the face of people that are already rock bottom.
Bluecoregamming ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me angry, although there isn't much I can do but continue to help people and just hope the majority actually needed it...
Knightbladehd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it is a Fiat, that does put you in the level with homeless ๐
g34rg0d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing that comes to mind is schizophrenia.
SheepLeaningCurve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a classic Sherlock Holmes story about a missing wealthy man and a panhandler. Turns out they are the same person
generaltso78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is this older Asian man at an off ramp close to where I live. He literally hobbles up the side of the ramp asking for money. When the light turns green, he doesn't even bother hobbling back. He just straight walks like anyone else. All the drivers who gave him money can clearly see that they've been duped. The man may be homeless, but he definitely doesn't have the disability that he portrays.
dougm68 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And her T-shirt insulted ME! wtf!??
blamethestarfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get why she thought getting a McDonald's employee involved could have swayed the situation her way. Homeless, disabled woman harassed on camera by 2 men at McDonald's parking lot. Workers of the fast food chain ignored her plead for help. ?
one-hour-photo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
@ 2:41.
Gears turning rapidly.
starogre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's female version of Frank Gallagher
mrkruk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone, if you really want to give money to panhandlers, do it to the Salvation Army around the holidays. At least there's a chance it'll go to something worthwhile.
YerrytheYanitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could say she is... Fauxmless.
daymanahhh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was really certain this would be about the woman who panhandles along the Roosevelt Blvd in northeast Philly who's fairly notorious for doing the same thing. Now I see that its even more ridiculous that there's more people like that in the world. They must have their own scumbag chatrooms and yearly conventions
innocent_bystander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Naturally, a Maryland driver.
twatzkof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She looks like maz kanata from Star Wars Force Awakens (the orange alien)
renanpontara ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anything happened?
rondog469 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in a busy area that has a ton of pan handlers. I used to give them my spare changed until I noticed just how many are in the area now. It's like we supported their bad habits. There are a certain few that I have talked to with disabilities that I will still help out however
RubItOnYourShmeet ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 16:56:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She might live in her car.
karma_aversion ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:07:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I seriously doubt anybody is living out of a brand new fiat.
RubItOnYourShmeet ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:16:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It could be someone who couldn't afford to stay in their house and used all of their money to buy a new car to live in. A car is more productive than a shitty apartment in terms of how much money each will help you make.
Columcille ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:58:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And if she was living in the car, it would be pretty consistent for her to park the car in an area where it wouldn't draw a lot of attention, where it's lighted at night (which is safer), and where she would have access to a public restroom, and food, without needing to drive the car too far.
J0EYGREC0 ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 16:36:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IDK, i feel like she has some mental stuff going on. Yes, what she is doing is wrong as fuck. It just seems like she isn't all there.
mak6453 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:09:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I see comments like this more and more recently and just want to take a quick second to remind everyone that being an asshole isn't a mental disability. Neither is being an idiot. She seems to be both, but that's all I think you can gather from this video.
J0EYGREC0 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:18:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing that popped into my head is that some people who may be a skitzo often live with others who may be supporting her. Like maybe that isn't her car and she is out of her dam mind but her family just lets her wander.
Grimpler ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:07:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looking at her reactions it would suggest she as mental health problems and drugs.
J0EYGREC0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was my thinking the instant I saw the video.
mak6453 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a pretty fringe scenario to just suppose from this video. Much more likely she's an asshole.
RPFM ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:01:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't all there with her 2014.......
J0EYGREC0 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:19:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do we really know that it is hers? Perhaps her family is supporting her and she is a nut job who just wanders away
GalactusPoo ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 16:59:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that this lady doesn't know what she's doing. She knows exactly what she's doing.
J0EYGREC0 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:19:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We really don't know anything about her besides that she thought that a cashier would be on her side in helping her out. Do sane people think like that?
rammingparu3 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:27:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are plenty of attention whore princesses who can be considered "sane".
Panzis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:27:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a middle-aged lady who used to come into my restaurant, who had that look in her eyes like she lives in another dimension, that this whole world everyone else resides in is very much separated from hers. She would ask the strangest questions, and when questioned would respond with the strangest answers. My boss told me she has money, that she came from a family with money, and has been recently arrested multiple times for breaking into people's houses and stealing medicine. Mental illness twists people into beings that the rest of us can't even comprehend.
J0EYGREC0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's wild dude.
corelatedfish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would ask on a pragmatic note to those who find this woman's behavior problematic, "just how poor does one need to be in order to be suffering enough to justify public assistance?"
I ask because my father is homeless and collects 700$ a month as well as 153$ a month in food stamps. He lives in the woods and rides his self-made bike/motorcycle around when i am unable to supply water and food trips... I would like to say thanks to the usa for that little help he does get... but to the wider community i will peraonally attest that this is beyond sub par assistance for a person in this area... the truth is he can't afford housing, health care.. honestly he would be dead without my personal additional assistance on a consistant basis.(which is pretty hard on my jobless depressed ass)he has either some form of autism or dementia or he had a stroke... it's hard to tell from web md and he refuses to ride his bike to the hospital to get checked out.. and refuses to take the (probably wrong) medication he was prescribed as he claims it incapacitates him and prevents him from getting food/taking care of himself... i have to say.. .anybody who see's this woman and thinks they know the slightest thing about what she is dealing with... you probably don't. also it is worth noting.. I drive a cheap old truck... its value is maybe 2 grand... but it costs >2 grand a year to drive as it only get 12mpg.. if i had a car like hers, (which is worth max 5-10 grand) i'd save a little, but the truth is that does not matter. if she sells that she probably won't be able to get reliable transportation for several years....I honestly don't get the malice you guys have... get out of your little bubble. poverty line is 22,000$ do you honestly think this woman is making more than that?
NearHi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:51:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While this lady might have been shady, I urge everyone not to judge right away.
Here's a great article of why: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/07/08/this-is-what-happened-when-i-drove-my-mercedes-to-pick-up-food-stamps/?utm_term=.3e786aff9493
tl;dr - Husband and Wife had great jobs, bought and paid off a Mercedes. Recession hit. No income. Sold all the frills, but the car was new and worked and was used for shopping and job searching, etc. She goes to food bank and gets nasty looks and back-handed comments. She kept the car because it was practically a necessity.
CommunismWillTriumph ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair she could be recently unemployed and living in her car. That could why she has a nice car despite having to beg for money.
I never resorted to begging, but I was homeless once despite still owning a decent car.
Vanderscramble ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:19:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's kind of how I felt watching this. Obviously I don't know the whole story, but isn't it possible that she either 1) recently lost a job and had no savings and forced to live out of her albeit nice car (maybe that's even why she doesn't have savings. Now forced to beg for her car payment so she's not forced to live on the streets?) or 2) had a mental disorder and was cast out of her family for it?
I knew a guy in high school who suffered from depression and other mental problems, and was incapable of holding a steady job. Eventually his family got sick of him and he ended up being cast out on the streets. I live in a nice area, so he had a nice-ish car, a smartphone, and a suitcase full of his clothes, but after some time of being homeless and living out of his car was begging on the streets. I even remember being like "Why the hell is this guy begging, he has a rich family. What an asshole!" before I knew the whole story.
If she's just a regular person who doesn't want to work for a living so resorted to lying and stealing, then that is reprehensible and perhaps she deserves being lambasted on the internet or worse, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt at first.
I hope that she wasn't just "outed" despite falling on hard times and having no choice.
Klmffeee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh and on top of the smartphone and clean clothes? Fuck this women I hope she really does lose her job.
CommunismWillTriumph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just because somebody becomes homeless doesn't mean suddenly all the things they just had explode and disappear. When I was homeless I still had an iphone because I had one from when I was gainfully employed. Rent in most places is $700+ a month whereas a cell phone, once purchased, does not cost nearly as much (and you really don't even need a cell plan in areas where there is a lot of free wifi). So it's perfectly reasonable that somebody can be homeless and still own a smartphone.
Klmffeee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Panhandling is meant for people with no where else to turn too hence the name begging. She could easily apply at that Mcdonald's she parks her car infront of or sell her phone and get a cheaper one. I've been homeless myself in highschool and pulled myself out of it by working hard not by begging. She has every opportunity to better herself but stands on the road for hours looking for change. That's assuming she is homeless which she isnt. They play peoples sympathy and its sick she obviously doesn't need the help and the video proved it.
OlderRedditAccount ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone who resorts to begging is in a pretty desperate situation. This person clearly needs financial help, and is willing to lower themselves to holding a hand out for coins on the street, face to face.
If this were someone online, faking cancer, or a sick kid, running a kickstarter, I'd be mad, but this is not exactly a criminal scam, but a symptom of inequality and poverty in America, hitting all stripes of the population.
R0N_SWANS0N ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not necessarily a desperate situation as it is them taking advantage of existing good will and charity towards the homeless. All this does is make people distrust even more.
You can make a lot of money begging at the right spots. A LOT.
It's great for someone who is on unemployment or welfare and doesn't want to get a job they might think is "beneath them" or have to report income that would lower their benefits. Still, as you said, it is a product of inequality but shamming like this has been around as long as humans have printed money.
Poverty is a big issue in this country but some people are just lazy and you have to acknowledge that as a possibility in these situations.
If you want to truly help the homeless, volunteer at a shelter and donate to a food pantry. Anyone begging for change that refuses a bottle of water or a nutritious meal is either a scammer or looking to get a fix for their substance habit. You'll not be doing them any favors by giving them cash.
OlderRedditAccount ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't get in to any single person's refusal of food offer, but to say that maybe they are not hungry at the moment. Where would a homeless person keep/store/preserve the 23'rd 1/2 a turkey sandwich someone gives them in a day. Maybe they need to buy cell phone credits for their burner phone, so they can "pull themselves up by their boot straps", and get a job?
People can look at this person, and opt to give, or not. She's not in blackface, faking anything; she's a white lady, and I'm sure she's not raking it in. The idea that "You can make a lot of money begging at the right spots" is a myth. Where are these LOT of money spots? if they exist, I suspect people get wise to them and others would be there too and they'd be overrun.
Years ago I visited the Vatican. To get in, there's a huge long line that has 25,000 people on some days. Nearer to the front, there was a woman on the ground, who was clearly crippled, and had gruesome injuries. She was literally laying head on the ground palm up, in the middle of the line. Italy has a very generous social safety net, and this woman was probably taking in well more than 500+ euros a day off Catholic guilt [maybe even thousands]. That's specialist doctor money, for lowering ones self to begging in the street, but she was indeed horribly disfigured.
Another guy in the UK waits outside a popular museum and draws the Da Vinci last supper in chalk, then covers it with a tarp overnight, only to continue the next day, complete with a pot of money in front of him. He also rakes in tons of cash, for presumably his artistic talent. Is he working? Are living statues or buskers working when they occupy our public spaces with their profit making endeavors making my world better?
All I'm saying is that moral judgement from a distance is complicated. Maybe some people are drunks, or drug addicts, others may be paying for their place to sleep at a hostel, or they live in their car and need to put gas in it; in my opinion, we ought not be so quick to judge someone else's situation.
edit, for clarity & spelling
DrakeSucks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:19:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omg who gives a fuck Jesus
GoldenFalcon ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why do people care so much? It's not your money these people are giving her. She may not be working for some million dollar company making them money but it's still kind of like being an entrepreneur... She just has 0 start up money. Personally I like the people playing music more, but if people stopped giving money this way, they wouldn't do it. So the real problem is people giving her money.
She's exploiting people the same way million dollar companies exploit people... So if this video makes you mad, stop shopping at Walmart too.
reincarN8ed ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would someone with money panhandle?! What's the appeal?
Wesker405 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:13:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To play devil's advocate, they were harassing her on private (owned my Mcdonalds) property. She has a car and automatically assumed she wasn't homeless when really that means nothing. If she was homeless, it would probably be better to keep whatever car she had if its relatively new as it's less likely to break down and very useful for getting back on her feet.
PAR_KER ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who gives a shit. I love how everybody is all shocked and shit. The guys filming are a couple of cuntboys. If she has the balls to ask strangers for change, fuckin let her. She technically has as much a right to beg as a homeless person.
lectric_scroll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm probably going to be crucified for saying this but it is possible she is homeless but just happens to have a pretty nice car... you honestly never know. However, if she is fraudulent that is wrong for her to do that.
dragonfangxl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate to say it, but just because she has a car, doesn't mean she has income. Maybe she lost her job but still needs a reliable way to get around town. Maybe her husband got a pay cut and now they need a little extra money every month to make ends meet.
ox_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:54:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do most people just come to /r/videos for videos of women being put in their place? Because that's what's at the top, everyday.
jjcombo18 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who cares??? Is it morally wrong? Yes It is. Is she acting like a child? Yes she is. She's not forcing people to give her anything. Don't like it? Ignore her. The internet is full of people trying to be the next viral sensation.
cjbeames ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:06:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no she is scamming small change from people who can clearly afford it.... Maybe leave her alone?
ICARUS-Overwatch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she lives in her car? Recently homeless? You don't have to sleep on the sidewalk to be in need jussayin. I don't think there's some grand panhandling ploy in play here, doesn't seem that lucrative.
Gravel-Road-Cop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped watching after the McDonalds Employee came in... My only thing to say is some homeless people so live in their cars. I knew a woman and child running from an abusive husband that lived in a car for a few weeks. I feel like a converastion would have been more appropriete than flanking this woman and trying to expose her like TMZ. Maybe she cant work has money from a disability to cover a car and house but would like some spending money and begs for change. People in the end have the right to not give her any and if shes being aggressive involve the police. Just my two cents.
MrPecanSandy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So were making fun of Bernie supporters now??
djfivenine11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is gross on both sides.
jtOCmale ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can be homeless and own a car. Just saying.
Redditing_on_toilet ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:34:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who cares? She doesn't make people give her money. She just cons suckers
drocdoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost 20k upvotes but only 10k views on youtube......
excepti0nalp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:36:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it illegal to beg for money?
[deleted] ยท -58 points ยท Posted at 16:18:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, maybe she needs some extra cash, who knows. Yeah there are actually people struggling for money but in the end it's us giving them the money, we don't have to. You wouldn't believe a stranger on the internet, so why would you in reality?
cat_of_danzig ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:14:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could use some extra cash. I just started bringing lunch to work and skipping Starbucks. Maybe selling an old bike I have in the garage.
sandratcellar ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:06:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's easier for someone to believe a filthy person standing at an intersection is homeless than it is the sob story of someone behind a computer screen.
ofhdhdy ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 17:34:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you need extra cash, sell your newer car and take the fucking bus.
CharadeParade__ ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:55:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She had a sign claiming she was homeless
Hotrod_Greaser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That car could be way behind and up for repo and she's desperate as fuck.
Or she's a piece of shit. I don't know. Fuck it, have an upvote.
Potatoe_away ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure she had a cell phone because she was going into her purse at first, but she actually had the foresight to not pull it out.
BMOCROC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
who the hell cares....
spartan36 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live for these videos!!
nicanuva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really not okay to put her license plate in the video, no matter what she did. Give that to the proper authorities if you feel it's necessary, but don't facilitate a witch hunt on a platform like this.
Generican ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really not ok to lie and claim that you're homeless with your hand out taking hard working people's money, while rolling around in a brand new-ish car...if you can't understand that,you obviously don't understand right vs wrong....fuck this lady
nicanuva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I 100% agree with that, but there's such a thing as too much. You don't spread people's private information like that. Leave it to the proper authorities so justice gets done correctly.
Generican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"proper authorities" won't do shit, this lady will be out tomorrow and the next day and so on and so forth, the more people from her hometown who see this the better, the less money she gets for free the better, everybody else's money is not your money, work for what you want, work hard, do good, and improve yourself and your situation, that is what this country is all about, not beggars on the corner who have no decency and lie and thieve off of others, once again fuck this lady, even if cops chased her off from this corner she'd find somewhere else, she's a lazy piece of shit and is taking money away from actual homeless people who could really use it, there is no excuse for her actions and I wouldn't do a damn thing different than these guys, this woman should be outed for the fraud that she is for the whole world to see and I truly stand behind that...
nicanuva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, so you think her information should be published so she can fall victim to "street justice"? We're no better than her if we act that way.
Generican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No but I feel like people from her hometown have a right to see her car recognize it from this video and tell her to fuck off and stay away from her...period
nicanuva ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They kinda don't. You can call it what you want, but that's harassment until they actually witness her doing it. The guys filming are lucky she didn't call police because legally they're more at fault than she is.
AbSoluTc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your license plate is not private. I never understood this. It's public - hence why it's readily available to view by anyone, any time. The exact opposite of private. Why it's required by law to be on your car and visible, at all times.
Just because it's on your car and registered to you doesn't mean it's private. These made up internet laws are funny.
nicanuva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's public in places you choose to bring your car to. Nowhere else. That's how it works.
AbSoluTc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Again, so it's public in this instance. Thanks for clarifying that.
KublaKahhhn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goddamn 1400 comments. This has probably already been suggested, but given that this is filmed by a "production company", I have to wonder if it's fake, ala deceptive planned parenthood videos.
phaerodox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are these ppl serious? Who gives a shit if shes begging for change she's not wrong at all if people wanna give her money that's on them. I see dozens of YouTubers begging for patreon subs all the time, basically the same shit. When I was younger I was taught to absolutely never give the homeless money. Either buy them.some snacks or a meal, or leave em be. Just like everyone else should.
wryan12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless the people you're referring to on youtube are claiming to be homeless it's not the same thing. It's not that she's asking for money, it's that she's misrepresenting why she needs it.
phaerodox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ya I mean if shes straight up saying she's homeless and needs money, than ya she's definitely scum but still nobody should give any homeless person money, it's just not how you help them. And that was more directed at the people who play video games and stream them etc. I'm sorry but I don't care how good you are at the game, I'm not supporting you so you can continue to play a video game for 10 hours a day.
wryan12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see what you mean with the homeless. Getting them food and other type of help is usually better just incase they have a drug habit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is just as annoying as those stolen valor videos. Who cares.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the daily "reddit jerks off over the idea of hating poor people" video
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's an awful lot of assumptions going on here.
I'm not arguing for or against her state of homelessness in this particular case, but
Plenty of homeless people own an auto. Even a newish one. People can go from seemingly stable finances to losing the roof over their head right quick.
Plenty of homeless people aren't hobos. They haven't been homeless for years. They could be couch surfing, with access to laundry and showers. That doesn't mean they aren't homeless; it just means they aren't destitute.
Loads of folks do dumb shit when confronted with a camera. Loads of people do dumb shit when embarrassed. It's entirely possible that she's the type to do both, and is, you know, embarrassed about begging for change and for being homeless.
TL;DR We don't know her story. Stop assuming. And, if you do want to help the homeless and worry about situations like this, give money or time directly to a credible charity, not to a beggar.
nagsnyder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, I just want to point out something that a lot of people (including the guys filming) might not understand. It definitely seems like she's not actually homeless, but just because she has a car (even a nice one) doesn't mean you're not homeless. She seems like she just has a screw loose, but I've known several people who have been forced to live out of their cars. It's like saying "How can you be homeless if you have a smart phone?!" You can actually sign up for a free limited plan through the government if you qualify. Just want to say, that's a slippery slope to be going down.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is no problem here. People can ask for your money and you can give it or you can choose not to give it. I don't give because of this kind of thing and not wanting to support chronic substance abuse, but if you want to put a few dollars down, go ahead; just don't cry about it when you find this kind of thing is happening. Leave her alone.
vwzwv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Notice how when a woman gets caught red handed she immediately co-ops a complete stranger to witness 'harassment'? ..and it usually works. women power.
shuvvel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These are the same kind of people that stand outside abortion clinics and harass women until they have a mental breakdown without even thinking of doing a damn thing to actually address the causes of abortion (or in this case homelessness.)
[deleted] ยท -31 points ยท Posted at 17:03:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:27:55 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and the public has a right to know about scams like this through reporting.
9999monkeys ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 17:29:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We care because she is taking advantage of people's kindness, which is not cool.
Wet_Walrus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:12:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So if you gave this lady a dollar a day for a year and then this video surfaced, you would give her a pat on the back and say "hey, nice job, you got me good" ?
G3m1nu5 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 16:30:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know she's not homeless? This video could be misleading.
JohnCavil ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:41:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know she is homeless? If she was sleeping in her car or whatever then the normal reaction to someone confronting her would be to just explain the situation and explain why things aren't as they look.
Once you get defensive like this it's pretty clear you're hiding something.
Its_All_Me ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:43:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok so homeless people drive around in brand new cars.
MoonStache ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:04:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol let's just ignore the 2014 Fiat.
aldehyde ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well for one in the video she says she isnt homeless
charlescopley ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:36:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dang, why does reddit have such a hard-on for exposing the exceptions to situations where people face difficulty. False-rape accusations, race relations. This shit. Who cares? Are people really that insecure about their privilege?
Invokationz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
good video hahaha, but shoulda drove past her whilst she was begging to see what bs story she would have made up
Joe_Sapien ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey woman can be fake homeless people too!
mak6453 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have a lot of these people around my city. They're organized and obviously not actually homeless. They have iPhones and I once saw two of them come together, share a bag of chips, and then both walk away and adopt the exact same limp. It's disgusting.
hang3xc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why is it that people still don't understand that you CAN be recorded in public, and/or have your picture taken. It is NOT illegal. You have no expectation of privacy in public. Nobody needs your permission & they don't have to delete anything
Funny how she claims she is disabled, yet is recorded RUNNING back and forth taking money under false pretenses.
Even funnier is knocking on a McDonald's drive thru window to report(?) them. LOL at the expression from the worker, like "What do you want ME to do about it???
This "lady" is too much.
balmung8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's not a "fake homeless person" she's a panhandler and these people are everywhere and like the guy in the video says there are actually homeless people out there that really need help and these panhandlers hog all the corners trying to get free money from people.
elfliner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i thought about doing this once with my gf as an experiment just to see who would be able to collect more money. I can't bring myself to do it even for that reason. If someone wants to do what she is doing then more power to them. These guys are just as bad as the jerk who blocks a lane of traffic when merging is ahead.
PlaylisterBot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Comment will update if new media is found.
Downvote if unwanted, self-deletes if score is less than 0.
save the world, free your self | recent playlists | plugins that interfere | R.I.P. u/VideoLinkBot
_mad_adventures ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, she's obviously making a good living doing minimal. I certainly can't blame her. No worse than a majority of our politicians.
DracoCharky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fake homeless people expose themselves in Edinburgh.
Walk up and down Princes street a few times, and you could very easily see a few hundred homeless people over the course of a day. Of course, once it gets to about 7-8pm and it's starting to get dark, the numbers will very rapidly dwindle.
ButterOnToads ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Judging from how she attempted to get help from random McDonald's strangers, she might have "mental disability"๐ she just doesn't make sense๐
noSoRandomGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey. Just like republicans tell us that corporations never game the system, the democrats tell us people never defraud the welfare system. My life is a lie.
ScumWithBoundaries ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not that I really give a fuck but I'm surprised this hasn't been removed for breaking Rule #3... clearly her license plate is showing.
laceyinthewoods ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, she certainly could have a mental disability... that's obvious if she feels validation for parking at McDonalds and not being a customer, to go and panhandle. But, she probably needs some assistance and intervention from APS and other organizations to get her the help she obviously needs for mental illness. McDonald's would actually have to surveillance and prosecute by having her vehicle towed. I'll definitely keep an eye out for this lady as we do a lot of work in the area where this was filmed... What a shitty thing to do... coming from someone who was homeless, in the middle of winter, with my 8 yo... sleeping in your car is not fun, but what a horrible disrespect to folks that are without even the shelter of a vehicle. I never took a dime from another person or Gov't assistance while I was homeless. Saved my money and bought a house.
JitWeasel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's not the only con out there. This is unfortunately quite common. There was a lady who lived in a mansion who would panhandle it was in a documentary or something. Pretty incredible. Of course there's also people who will con others and not pretend to be homeless. It's just insane what people do. I'm always curious about their rationale too. How they justify it to themselves. Like how does their mind work? Pretty messed up. Just as messed up as some business person conning people too. All shapes and sizes... anyway, They should make it illegal to panhandle on the road, it creates a hazard.
goodwc72 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Move to Dallas, we banned panhandling in 2009, although it still happens like crazy, now you can tell them they are breaking the law and to fuck off
JitWeasel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, well apparently they didn't adopt that in Austin. But I will say the guy with an "ex super model out of work" sign is my hero.
goodwc72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Been living in austin for 7 years, I feel the struggle as well lol, I pass manchaca/Ben white intersection multiple times everyday and get asked for money by a different person every time. Very Frustrating
BagofPain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why it should be illegal to panhandle. Seriously, she probably makes more than I do because of all the morons handing her wads of large bills.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was young and stupid with a bleeding heart I used to give these people money until one of them on crutches with a bad limp dropped the crutches and scurried back to his stash as I drove away when I gave him a bunch of money.
Ads an adult I have worked a lot with the programs that help these people, and for every sob story about someone who is actually really a hard worker down on their luck there are 20 people who are just lazy and/or drunks.
The truth is if you simply show up to work on promptly for every shift and speak clearly and respectfully you will be making more than minimum wage in no time.
jcleary555 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get that maybe this lady isnt homeless and someone may have more proof to that but I really don't understand why everyone is making it a big deal because she has a car. I've been very homeless and still had a car to sleep in. That doesn't mean I didn't try to get money for a hotel room as often as I could because believe it or not a car (or in my case truck) isn't a great place to sleep every night and I do like the occasional shower.
tws111894 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone pointed out she could be living out of her car? Thats considered homeless in my opinion
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's allowed to beg for money if she wants. That's her prerogative. You don't have to give her money. I personally assume that most people asking for money don't NEED it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll have to find the article, but there was a woman in my city who was panhandling outside of a Wal-Mart. The police were called after a few weeks and she moved to a McDonald's.
I guess someone at the local newspaper did some serious investigating and found out she was pretty much living at a hotel, which can't be cheap, and she had 3 kids.
The article was published and the police got involved. She ended up loosing her kids and going to jail.
jsnoots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glad bag!!!!! I lived in NYC for years and would see a fake homeless lady that we named Glad Bag. She would beg in the subway or on the subway steps, she would be naked and shoeless but she would be wearing a black garbage bag. She would sometimes actively beg, sometimes she would pretend to be asleep and just keep a cup for change in her hand, sometimes she would go "all in" and writhe on the floor slowly wriggling out of her garbage bag moaning "my baby, my baby..."
Anyway, she killed it in the begging department, once the train of tourists had rolled out of the station she would get up, count her money, do a quick call on her hidden cell phone and at the end of her day she hopped in a car (old PT Cruiser) and drive away.
She did roll around on the wet subway floor screaming and crying, letting her rather unkempt vagina come out of the trash bag to look extra crazy but she was very smart and most definitely not homeless.
Glad Bag rulled, she is no longer on the job, I haven't seen her in 10 years or more.
Tyehn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean yeah, it's crappy and dishonest, but she is not breaking any law unless the state requires a license to panhandle that she does not possess. There is no law written law that says you have to be destitute to beg for money. I do wonder though if there is some sort of applicable law to having a sign that states you are homeless, when you in fact are not, that could be enforced in a situation like this.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IMO nobody begging for money in the U.S. actually needs you to give them money. They don't need money to get food and they don't need money to get shelter because there are government services (not to mention charities on top of that) that will provide those for them if they really need it.
They may need something: mental health care, a job, drug rehab, etc., but your money is definitely not one of them regardless of what they say. Giving them money won't help them. This is the primary reason (amongst others, e.g. my own safety) I won't do it.
MetaParser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm all for not giving, just on the base that you never know where the money will go. There are ton of drunk and beggars networks , I don't want my money to go in booze or mafia/criminals pocket.
It's sad, but that's how shity the world is/has turned into.
MouthOfTheGiftHorse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, they shouldn't have confronted her until they saw the house she lives in. Other than the car she drives, they have no idea what her life is actually like. I'm sure they're all right about what she's doing, but a car isn't much to go by. If you lose your house, you do still have a car, usually, so it's plausible that she really is homeless. More ammo is needed.
IAmKnightSolaire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I always buy food for homeless people. The ones who are actually homeless are always incredibly thankful, and the ones who are just alcoholics or scammers fuck right off.
Although one time a homeless guy asked me for $3.28 exactly. I asked him why $3.28, and he informed me that it was the price of his favorite 40 oz. I said, "fuck it, you're honest, so why not"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
ThomYorkesGoodEye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who knows her story?!? Vehicle might be her dad's, maybe she suffers from mental disabilities. Maybe she lives in the vehicle but can't sell it to get back on her feet due to unpaid parking tickets or something.
It's likely that she's just taking advantage but, why is panhandling reserved specifically for homeless people with drug and alcohol problems? Maybes she's just down on her luck in between jobs and needs to fund her life rather than losing everything.
All I am saying is just stop judging people we know nothing about.
billionaire_ballsack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Remember, be respectful to others."
These cameramen make all sorts of assumptions (threateningly too) and make themselves look like huge assholes - do they really have to assume they know what her situation is?
Look again, there is no proof that is actually her car. That shirt she is wearing, could easily be from goodwill.
Cash does help people: https://www.odi.org/sites/odi.org.uk/files/resource-documents/10748.pdf
ITT: hundreds of people being disrespectful to other human beings so it makes themselves feel better about their own financial situation. Does anyone stop to actually think "Well gee, we don't really know what her situation really is do we?" No. Shame on you all. Nobody stops to even consider why people like her might be forced to go out there? We point and laugh and blame and insult- as if she is some kind of subhuman - it's sick. Meanwhile the youtube video is probably going to be making easy cash while this lady who could genuinely have major problems - is aggressively harassed.
The one sensible response: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/6co2ch/fake_homeless_woman_exposed/dhw300n/ and even then there is no proof that is her car. Idiots.
It's not "women like this" who are a problem with society. It's "videos like this" and people who laugh and make themselves feel better about their own financial position - that is the problem with society.
sdneidich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A 2004 Fiat is not exactly a home. This woman may be everything the video makers are accusing her of, but this video certainly doesn't prove she isn't homeless, or isn't in need.
Still, scams along these lines are why I only give through charities I trust.
typhoidmarry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The vehicle in the video is a 2014.
sdneidich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, thanks. Doesn't necessarily mean it's hers, however... and it's still possible to be homeless and have a car. In fact, it was quite common at the start of the Great Depression.
Jonkampo52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
its a fiat 500x they didn't make those in the US till just a couple years ago. they are 20k+ vehicles. if she can afford that she isn't poor or homeless. if she is she is just dumb
sdneidich ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:18:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Point taken. Doesn't mean it's her car, however.
R0N_SWANS0N ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fiats were sold in the USA in 2004. It's a 2014.
Zxcvbnmlkjhgfdsazxcv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ctrl+F "devil". None?
OK, I'm gonna play the devil's advocate. We have no actual proof, just different opinions, voiced by two or more upset people. Let's not grab the pitchforks yet, we might not be seeing the full picture. The video was fun to watch though.
eppinizer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is sadly more common than you would expect. One of my buddies knew a group of people that would do this. They knew each-other and would coordinate their pan handling locations. I believe they even shared profits in some cases.
ecurrencyhodler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's very likely this woman does have a mental disability. Not right to lie about being homeless. But yea.
prisoner_human_being ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That woman looks like an athlete to me. lol
slipperylips ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IMHO, she didn't do anything wrong. If you are dumb enough to give money to a panhandler then don't complain if money isn't used for what you thought. In my state, there are EBT cards, food stamps, WIC programs, SNAP programs, free cell phones, soup kitchens and homeless shelters, no one needs to be hungry and shelter less in Massachusetts, the bluest liberal state in the Union,unless they are mentally ill or have addiction issues. I don't give them anything, they get enough free stuff already.
Jinbuhuan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People scam...all people whom you know! Either it's begging for money or starting a company to sell you stuff you don't need, but there is a trick to make you buy. Even people who work 9 to 5...are scamming! They believe that working those hours at a dead-end job lets them think they are better than the next guy or girl. It's a big scam...or better, an illusion.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this lady is obviously a cynical jerk but these dudes need to get a damn life
ZOMGitsRadimus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kinda wish she would have called the police. She probably doesn't have a permit to solicit money from people; therefore, she could be charged if the city they're in requires one.
Oo_oo_ah_ah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nearly 12,000 upvotes, but not half that on the video itself.
zedsdead20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen dreaded hippies do this in Montreal, park their car and get out and beg for money for food
PimpStallions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw the thumbnail and thought it was a filthy frank video.
Brrryyycccee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The drive their lady doesn't seem involved, but it seems staged from the other people.
sven2123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does this post have 11k upvotes even though the video only has 5k views? Does it have to do with the way youtube refreshes it's viewcount or something?
Scufix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
12.9k upvotes and ~7k views on YT
zoahporre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Learn how youtube counts views friend.
Robyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't assume people are homeless just because they're panhandling. It doesn't mean she's "fake".
allthedamnvampires ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i saw a vet holding up a sign in San Diego that said, "not gonna lie, i just want a drink." dropped a buck in his hus cup, just for the honesty.
Sockrats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does it have 12k upvotes with only 7k views?
naturalwonders ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her choices after being confronted tell me she's at least a little crazy. There's nothing that says you have to be homeless to beg for money. Buddhist monks do it door to door. Good job though guys. You really cracked the case.
Steveth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Come on Reddit, no one has identified this woman yet? We even have her license plate number.
Warrior__Maiden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's worse she has an out of state license plate, she's that calculating she can't do it on her home turf. At the same time she is taking away from people in need. I'm glad she was exposed and no one rescued her from her stupidity.
butterball1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Over 15K upvotes and the video had only 7K views. Curious.
RancidLemons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is cringey as fuck.
"This is going viral! It already is viral!"
"Where do you live?"
"What is the nature of your disability?"
"How much do you get from the government?"
She's 100% in the wrong but goddamn those guys are acting like assholes. They aren't doing this for good reasons.
Eeju ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"This is already viral" while filming her? Lol Now that they exposed her, the folks can rest easy. They have exposed the most shady person in America ever! Sorry Trump, this women in Richmond with Maryland tags beat you lol
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Richmond resident here. If this is all I have to do to top the front page, give me a few minutes. Brb.
somedude456 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll be waiting, LOL
The_UnApologist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Excuse me, can you ask these MEN to stop harassing me?! I'm a poor defenceless woman and these men are harassing me for no reason!"
"Somebody is gonna KILL you!"
Jesus, what an absolute cunt. She's probably far from homeless. I bet she grew up in a rich family where they handed her whatever she wanted and now that she's not getting stuff handed to her she's out begging other people for money and acting as if everyone else around her is the problem and not herself and owes her a hand out. You can tell that's her attitude by how insistent she's being with those poor McDonalds staffers.
If she's "disabled" shouldn't she have a disabled parking thing in her car to hang on her rear-view mirror when she's in the McDonalds parking lot begging for change?
l--___--I ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm like 90% sure that's a threat
cheeze_n_mustarda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This lady ain't begging no more on this continent thanks to Reddit
strange_fate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this worse than spending it on crack? Maybe she's addicted to nice shoes.
youllbedeadwrong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This looks more fake then her sign, which we don't see. Don't give to the homeless folks. Never know when the middle class will fake being poor, and rich simultaneously.. seriously. Give to the homeless. They don't wear lycra and get paid for YouTube hits.
paradisevendors ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:02:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The guys who made this video are pathetic. Harassing a woman with mental health issues in the guise of justice. If they are out to "expose" injustice there are plenty of real issues out there.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:13:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
hazeleyedwolff ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:31:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree that they don't have to be, but her sign said "homeless".
JoestarUniverse ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:22:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
okay wow, that's the dumbest comment i've ever read on this website.
screwdawork ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? That's the dumbest comment you've read on Reddit?! Oh... you're only two months old. Give it time.
JoestarUniverse ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:34:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
because people don't have multiple accounts. but i'm glad you were so upset that you had to go to my profile lol
screwdawork ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:35:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't waste that much time on you, don't worry. It's called RES. A simple mouse-over does just fine.
JoestarUniverse ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 16:36:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
mhm. if you say so bud.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:13:59 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
dislikedopposingview ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:11:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
your way off kid lol
Method__Man ยท -22 points ยท Posted at 17:00:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She may be homeless, maybe she lives in her car? Also she's not stealing people's money when they GIVE it to her.
Capitalism is based on exploiting people, she does. Othing doffefent than basically every big corporation in the world.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:03:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is FRAUD if the money is obtained under false pretenses, such as telling someone you're homeless when you are not.
Method__Man ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it actually though? I'm not def ending her but is there actually a law for this?
Buffmonkey00 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:49:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Begging is illegal under the Vagrancy Act of 1824. However it does not carry a jail sentence and is not well enforced in many cities.
Grimpler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:29:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would call it fraud or scam. You are exploiting the kindness of others and that normally involves money.
evenios ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:02:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
she dont look homeless to me.
McDuble ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:24:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bull, capitalism is based on consensual private trade. If we are gonna argue with such hyperbole thefn maybe we should also be saying socialism is based on stealing from people since you don't own your own labor and it gets taken from you whether or agree to it or not.
Go set up a fake charity and after you make $10,000 from it, announce to everyone how you defrauded them and see where that takes you.
Wet_Walrus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:14:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen several videos like this where someone gets exposed for faking homelessness and for that reason alone, I no longer give cash to homeless.
I'd feel like an absolute idiot if I repeatedly gave a homeless person money only to find out they drive a nicer and newer car than I do.
I.e. she is ruining it for the people who actually need the money.
Method__Man ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:17:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
100% True
no_modest_bear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Easy for you to say.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:11:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet she doesn't report that income. That's a crime
Method__Man ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:22:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So do hotdog vendors
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's your point?
stevenw84 ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 17:50:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Leave the goddamn lady alone holy shit.
chmod_888 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is it people don't recognize the deference, This one is clean cut and better dressed than a homeless person. If you give people like this food/money it's your stupidity.
SilasYonderbar ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 17:43:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Leave the poor woman alone. If she wants to ask people for money that's her business, and if they want to give it to her that's their business. That self-righteous cameraman needs to find a hobby that doesn't involve harassing innocent civilians who are just going about their day.
billionaire_ballsack ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 17:59:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it makes them feel so much better about their own financial position, making less fortunate people feel like they are subhuman! "lmao what an idiot, a fraud!" They assume to know everything about her... While they will probably get paid soon for youtube views and the internet laughs and insults. Disgusting behavior.
Cash does help people: https://www.odi.org/sites/odi.org.uk/files/resource-documents/10748.pdf
Look again, there is not proof that is actually her car. That shirt she is wearing, could easily be from goodwill.
ITT: hundreds of people being disrespectful to other human beings so it makes themselves feel better about their own financial situation. Does anyone stop to actually think "Well gee, we don't really know what her situation really is do we? Wow we are assuming an awful lot about this person!" No. Shame on you all. Nobody stops to even consider why people like her might be forced to go out there? We point and laugh and blame and insult- as if she is some kind of subhuman - it's sick. Meanwhile the youtube video is probably going to make some easy cash while this lady who could genuinely have major problems - is aggressively harassed.
The one sensible response: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/6co2ch/fake_homeless_woman_exposed/dhw300n/ - and even then theres no proof of that.
It's not "women like this" who are a problem with society. It's "videos like this" and people who laugh and make themselves feel better about their own financial position - that is the problem with society. This is not much different from racism, it's worthism.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
billionaire_ballsack ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you see the irony here? that could be how much she made- you don't even know. You just keep assuming you know everything about a stranger.
Everyone is assuming they know everything about this persons situation. Just because she rests a bag on a car, that is not proof that is actually her car. That shirt she is wearing, could easily be from goodwill. Stop assuming you know everything about a stranger and their situation.
We'd rather shit on the lady because its easier and makes us feel better about our financial choices.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:37:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
billionaire_ballsack ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And you're so blind to even see how that completely illustrates my point about assumptions. You can't even see I said nothing about "rich". It proves my point.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Terrence and Phillip sound pretty confident this is going "viral" almost like they paid Reddit for upvotes since there are twice as many of those as actual youtube views.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:38:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/309fuf/how_reddit_was_destroyed_ver30/
TheGlassCitizen ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so, is it illegal to go begging if you have a flat?
Angrymonkee ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 16:42:02 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Camera guy is just mad he didn't think of it first. Or he's pissed cause he fell for her lies.
SadlyIamJustaHead ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:50:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People can't be legitimately offended that there's scam artists working in broad daylight anymore?
Surfinbird88 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:01:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That some people are trying to defend her makes me sad inside.
Hujikolplop ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:33:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Giving to a panhandler is a voluntary act. There is no exchange of goods or services, therefore, no misconduct or misrepresentation. There is no "deal" for an involved party to feel they've been defrauded. OP is a third party intruder making judgements and accusations based on nothing but his own prejudices. He could be charged for slander, libel, and harassment. Edit: changed "she should sue" to "he could be charged", because she's clearly incapable of rational discourse, and the DA could pursue the case, if so inclined.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:34:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
SynchronizedRapture ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:36:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are they dicks? Just out of curiosity.
[deleted] ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 16:20:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If people give her money, why not keep doing it? If you want to stoop that low then go ahead. We should be scolding the people who give her money. She wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for them.
_josepi_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:03:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Working with that type of thinking, we shouldn't help our elderly from falling into scams/etc because it's their money right?
mrnr_1_alt1 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:29:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see, so we're supposed to punish altruism for assuming that they really are experiencing hardship? Where do you draw the line with that mentality?
DutchDK ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:58:03 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean in the same manner we should blame a rape victim, instead of the rapist ? After all, if she hadn't walked alone/worn that skirt/worn makeup/been female, the rapist would not have done anything... (FYI: Sarcasm was sprinkled extensively all over this reply..)
asdrojas ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was homeless no carless
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:30:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone with a criminal record that makes it next to impossible to find a job facing a very real possibility of being "actually homeless" very soon, remember that there are people that are actually in need out there who really don't have any options. Proof is proof and there are people out to take advantage of yoyr generosity, but don't be an aggressive dick just because you "don't believe" that someone is homeless.
BroknTrust ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:34:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Go away from me ya stupid"
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:37:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty shitty thing to do. There are plenty of people that are honestly down on their luck and in need of assistance and this woman just makes like less likely that those people in real need get the help they need.
That being said, please don't let this stop you from helping people. Obviously, giving money directly to the person might not be the best way to help. You can always donate to a legitimate organization that assists the homeless. For example, in my city, there is a homeless shelter to which I annually contribute. That way I know that I"m helping the homeless and that the money is going toward the right things.
edit: what piece of shit people would downvote this?
Trump4prez2020 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:12:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a shame she is a looney, that pussy looks tight af.
[deleted] ยท -29 points ยท Posted at 18:38:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how much time and effort do you suppose the creator of this video invested in this outrage mongering piece? a few hours, perhaps? was outing this woman as a fraud in exchange for a bunch of youtube views a more effective use of time than volunteering at a soup kitchen or a homeless shelter?
listen to the audio of this thing. the people taking the video are clearly very upset, breathing heavily, stammering inarticulate accusations. they're angry that this person seems to be taking advantage of their community, and they're by god going to get as many other people as they can angry about it. smh.
i'm not defending this lady acting shitty, taking advantage of peoples' generosity - which she very well may be if the facts of her situation are what the CC is implying. i'm honestly confused and saddened that this is what we're so often reduced to as an example of our species. get pissed, type some stuff, click some things, go read more stuff, repeat.
here's one for you: either put money directly into the hand of a random stranger holding a sign, or don't. why be super, super pissed that some debatable portion of them are scam artists? maybe do you while they do them, and try to find something to smile about today.
SonGoku915 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:01:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her disability is liberalism
em_h_e ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:00:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GIVE FOOD! not money...
i have a feeling most lie
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:11:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She probably makes more in an hour than those Mcdonald's employees. That is disgusting. I really hope this goes viral.
MM320 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:38:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For anyone wondering, that's a 2016 Fiat 500x
MSRP $23,000
EvilisZero ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:46:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why people hate on other people's hustles like that.
zephixleer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:45 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's corrupting good will. Because people feel like there are a lot of scammers out there like this lady, they're less likely to be compassionate when it really matters.
EvilisZero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We don't know her struggle.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:46:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
Voixoff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They may need money to pay for medecine, a place to stay, a place to take a shower, a blanket, new socks, new under garment, sanitary pads,
And hell, poor people deserve the liberty to buy some shit from time to time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
Voixoff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have given leftovers and hot coffee to homeless people before (I was at a get-together and whole pies were left untouched so i just walked around the block handing over slices to the regular panhandlers. Then i found a lady looking into the dumpsters and i proposed her the pie and she took the rest)
But mostly, i think even poor people deserve to buy there own food (they may have religious restrictions/allergies) and nice things. I think it's wrong to not think of them as humans. They have the same wants and needs you do.
They have the right to want something else besides bare necessities.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:32 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
Voixoff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't see "figuring out the fake homeless people" as my priority. On the grand scale of evil this is a petty, small, inconsequential one.
I you are on the street begging for money rather than having fun somewhere / working there is more chance you need it than you don't.
evilketchup ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:50:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She should lose her car and her house
Mostexcelllllent ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:59:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't see what's so wrong with this. If the most valuable think she can do with her time is pan handle on the corner than that's it. I feel sorry for her.
hahjews ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:08:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The guy is actually treading the law by asking about her disability. She really might have a 'mental disorder/disability'. But yeah I can't explain the nice car.
zoahporre ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can ask about anything you want.....the people who cant are like employers and shit.
onesillyoldman ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:11:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Panhandling should not be allowed. There are enough charities and government programs to help if you are truly in need. If you think it's OK, then maybe "homeless" people should just start ringing home doorbells asking for food and money. That would be even more fun, right?
rjcarr ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:17:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, a few points:
For those that do give money to panhandlers, this shouldn't dissuade you from doing so because the number of scammers is probably pretty small.
Just because she drives a nice car doesn't mean she isn't homeless. You can lose your life quickly for a number of reasons (it happened to my sister and bro-in-law). It often doesn't make sense to sell your car if it's your only mode of transportation.
Similarly, she really could be disabled, but obviously not physically (or if she was, there'd probably be another fraud case).
Anyway, the point is just don't be cynical. The lady in this video likely was a fraud by the way she acted, but it's certainly possible the lady could have fallen on hard times and thought this was the best short term solution.
SoLar_Iconic ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:22:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SAVE ME RONALD MCDONALD
screwdawork ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 16:28:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not voicing my opinion of this video in any way, but I can't help but feel like most of the people who comment in this thread will be the same people that say they hate SJWs.
Edit: I'll take the downvotes as confirmation of my suspicions, thank you.
Edit: Good, good. Let the hate flow through you.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:36:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
screwdawork ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:36:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
&
GraharG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
#
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:40:33 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
legosexual ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:44:00 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think his point is that this person is being a SJW and probably also makes fun of SJW (or people liking this video)
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:48:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes
dementorpoop ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:42:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So not only are you admitting that your comment is irrelevant to the topic at hand, you're going to make wild assumptions about the people appalled at her bullshit.
sonicssweakboner ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:41:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha what's your logic there?
nevercomindown ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You do realize that you're talking about yourself, right.
screwdawork ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:32:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, I'm not.
nevercomindown ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:35:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Checks downvotes
Reads your comment
Checks downvotes again
Ooookkkayyyy then....
giranguin ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:37:24 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone else thought this was gonna be way sexier?
sdewar01 ยท -31 points ยท Posted at 18:39:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like a liberal to me....just saying.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:18:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/pussypassdenied
custom_arduino ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 18:31:42 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
some people actually have a car, and yet have no money and no job..and they might actually beg for some money... this does not give this idiot any right to harass her...
this female is doing nothing wrong.
all praise to her.
the truth is that she probably made thirty or fifty dollars, if she was lucky, and that will be spent and gone quickly, she committed no crime against any person.
and, one issue that this prick that made this video failed to recognize is that even tho she has a 2014 vehicle that he does not know her situation... she could be behind on her payments.... she could be facing foreclosure at home... maybe she doesnt have a home... maybe she is sleeping in her car... maybe she has recently ended an abusive relationship and she managed to come out of it with the keys to a decent car....
somebody should knock the sht out of this inconsiderate and hateful btch that made this video.
wanna know what he is trying to do? he is trying to make a newsworthy video at the expense of this obviously nice young lady.
have a nice day.
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 17:50:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
nevercomindown ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:33:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Florida in your name. Checks out.
thatryry0 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:50:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing nobody gives a shit what you think
pappy-bulljohn ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably a Bernie voter... that's where my tax money went with Obama
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:19 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
CelticRockstar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:57 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In what the hell country can you park for only $0.25?
odelljaj ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:31:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what a completely dumb statement
Luda87 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my brother in law friend was a Holmes's after he lost his business and got everything taking away from him except the car prenew BMW 750 he was sleeping in it and running around so it doesn't get repos. No one know what happen to this women maybe she sleeps in the car who knows
whinecube ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your BIL's friend should have had at least a year's worth of expenses saved up long before he bought a BMW 750. He also should never have been financing a fancy car without making sure he would never be homeless in the event his business failed.
His homelessness was not something that just happened to him. He stupidly set up his life so that he would be completely fucked if he lost his business. There was no reason this guy should have ever been homeless. If he had enough money to buy an $80,000 car, then he should have had enough money to secure his life against homelessness.
mv202 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She voted for Bernie!
Chesty_McNipplestein ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:29:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
we don't know her story. a car means almost nothing - she could have lost her job and is now way behind on payments, desperate to just stay afloat. does she have kids that need food? we don't a morality police - she lives with it, not you. when people give a few dollars on corners, they do it (generally) to make themselves feel good. no way is giving a few dollars to this woman taking away from others that MIGHT need it more... and who are you to say she doesn't need it. if you don't like what she is doing, keep your dollar for yourself - i suspect you do keep it no matter who is asking for it. if you're ever in such a spot where you need to ask people for money, pray that people are kinder to you.
kuhrispy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:00:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You must be a special kind of person to be doing something like this.
snyte ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:01:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its just sad people like this do this.
Actionjack7 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:05:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny that she was panhandling on Broad Street. #stupidbroad
Haephestus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:12:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I should just hand out non-perishable food items to homeless people. Cans of spam maybe?
armored-dinnerjacket ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:16:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
she's also fairly well dressed and groomed for a supposedly homeless person
RJDavies2001 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:16:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That women is absolute scum.
Artie_Fufkin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:17:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm fairly certain this is actually becoming more and more common. Where I live these "homeless" people dress well and look like they have it together. They actually are there all the time like they're on the clock. Always army vets with a family that is struggling.
Toolspaper ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:19:04 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew I'd seen her before
Mentioned_Videos ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:20:07 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Videos in this thread: Watch Playlist โถ
I'm a bot working hard to help Redditors find related videos to watch. I'll keep this updated as long as I can.
Play All | Info | Get me on Chrome / Firefox
n0eticsyntax ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:36:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does this video only have 2k views?!
Smartch ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:39:05 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Commenting before it gets locked.
vinsaw ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:45:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DOX.. now?
Cluster_Frick ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:46:41 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She isn't breaking any law and this is a standard hustle. People are upset that she's taking money that would have otherwise gone to homeless people. But they just spend it on booze and drugs anyway so I'm not sure why people think they are noble for chastising her.
R0N_SWANS0N ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, by state and specific county she could be. Aggressive panhandling (standing somewhere that affects traffic, etc) can be considered unlawful panhandling, which is a crime.
Cluster_Frick ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:20:34 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She could be a Muslim terrorist too, but I see no proof of that in the video.
bavarian ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:47:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just looked up her tag, that is a 2016 Fiat.
oh-just-another-guy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:15:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
16K upvotes here but only 8k YouTube views. That is odd.
Papasteak ยท -35 points ยท Posted at 18:39:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's a bleeding heart liberal as well.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 16:20:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey I have a disability too!
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 16:29:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That woman is the type of butthole that I wish would just burn in hell.
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 17:20:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The most annoying person in this video is the loser filming it, to be honest.
dirtymoney ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:30:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Playing devil's advocate, owning a car doesnt mean you are not homeless or in need. Also, many states' SSI (disability payments) are paltry and not easy to live on.
And you may be a person who cant hold down a part time job due to your disability and only get an unsurvivable amount from the state to try to live on. Many states want you to work part time to supplement your income when they give you a portion of disability payments.
Getting on disability can be very difficult. Some people actually have to hire lawyers to do it because the state looks for any reason to deny you.
I used to know a guy on SSI and he was just a person who had judgement problems (part of his mental disability). Got paid a paltry amount from the state that there was no way he could survive on. He could not hold down a job for long because he made bad decisions. He was really fucked.
Edit: and the thread got locked! Mods of r/video never disappoint! No submission gets my upvote more than a locked thread from r/videos because the mods are afraid of the plebs of reddit gettin allllll riled up!
RicoSavageLAER ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:29:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is she doing taking a handful of change from every 5th person on the highway? Get off her ass. If she can't make ends meet then she can't make ends meet. You don't have to be homeless to beg for change, you just have to be low and desperate enough
Edit because thread locked: I don't care if she makes more than minimum wage doing this. I don't care if it's untaxed. 16 year olds make hundreds of untaxed dollars bringing out plates in a restaurant.
Acting like she's some kind of villain when 90% of the places you shop and eat at are profitable because of lies and misrepresentation. Hell I don't even know if she's lying because I never saw anything that said she explicitly claimed to be homeless.
Fuck the people who did that "expose"
NCFishGuy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:30:23 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd be very surprised how much you can make in a day doing this, and it's tax free
rraadduurr ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:37:56 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stupid muricans, compaining that a woman with a car is not homeless.
Here in Romania, were showing on national television that two beggars in one of the poorest regions were earning enough money to own a nice house and were rich enough to travel by taxi or sleep at the hotel when were too tired, and people still gave them money.
omalleyrp ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting
sn76477 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't matter to me. She thinks this is the best that she can do. I do not care, I give because I want to.
tcran420 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:12 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should probably blur the license plate before posting
3Dartwork ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well....that turned out absolutely exactly as I expected it to be. The camera man repeating his right to film whomever for the intent to monetize the video and earn revenue; a woman who just continues to look for authorities expecting the camera man to be beaten and cuffed and dragged away for filming her without her consent; a horribly awkward feeling the entire time where nothing really is solved other than the camera man showing evidence until about 10 minutes into the video; and the cops showing up at the end.
illtellyoulaterokay ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh why do people do this!? People panhandle and you don't have to be homeless to do it! Actually a lot of homeless that I've met on the streets do it because they're barely getting by.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
illtellyoulaterokay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:50 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neither do I. I'll talk to them though.
Boar_expert ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:08 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She is mean. So are the people who made this video.
internaloutdoors ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:54 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she just collected enough change to buy the fiat
Boingbing ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:43:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Think about what you just said
internaloutdoors ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:14 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was being sarcastic
Boingbing ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok lol the. Add /s
internaloutdoors ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:21 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I figured it wouldn't need it ๐ that's a lot of change to collect.
Boingbing ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:10 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol I know haha but its the internet. No one understands everyrhing haha
StaplerLivesMatter ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Self-righteous asshats who go around with cameras trying to "expose" fake homeless people actually irritate me more than the people they're trying to "expose". Especially this dipshit. "How much you get? HOW MUCH YOU GET!? PEOPLE ARE REALLY HOMELESS GAWD!" Man, get the fuck outta here.
And lol, trying to involve random McDonalds people.
you-warm-the-globe ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:28 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least she is not fat. I hate seeing fat homeless people begging for money. How they hell do they afford food if they are begging for change?
MyBiased ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:44 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow that was disgusting. Sure it's bad to be begging on the side of the road pretending to be homeless. But the way the hotblooded SJW filming her and harrasing her because he doesn't agree with welfare is pathetic. Hate is hate and I have a lot now for this waste of a video...
goodwc72 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:30 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How much want to bet this bitch thinks Donald Trump is a fascist/racist
iq8 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one who doesnt really care about this sort of thing? she may get a thrill out of it or whatever, its a victimless crime imo.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
justagimmick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The title is sexy
shrubberynights ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:40 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While this is certainly shady and most likely fraudulent, it boggles my mind that anyone would be so outraged by it that they'd take the time out of their day to record this. This woman is getting spare change from people. Compared to large scale corporate greed and corruption this is nothing, but here we are talking about it instead of focusing on things that actually impact our lives.
mmellinger66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:48 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which type of argument are you trying to make? "Not as bad as..."
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_as_bad_as
shrubberynights ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're adorable. I'll explain why your silly little comment isn't applicable.
I'm not saying it isn't wrong. Did you miss the first sentence of my comment, where I pointed out that "this is certainly shady and most likely fraudulent"? There's a difference between saying that there's nothing wrong with a thing, and saying that there are things that are more deserving of time and effort.
edit: Furthermore, we're taking the recorder at his word that the sign says she's homeless, that she isn't homeless, and that she's begging for money. All we actually see in this video, is a guy recording a woman with a sign at an intersection. We don't even see any money change hands. She could be doing anything. There's so little information about this woman's situation. If you're going to present yourself as possessing superior logic, maybe you shouldn't start on such a shaky foundation.
acetrainerjames ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:20 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You would be surprised how much these people get. My ex FIL told me a story of a well dressed guy in a suit panhandling saying he missed his flight and his baggage was lost and he needed some extra money to get back home after his business trip. He got a few dollars for that. A week later he did the same thing. My Ex FIL asked him why he had been doing that for 2 weeks. Caught- the guy told him he had been a banker or something and lost his job and realized he could make more money in a few hours panhandling than he did in a day at his job and he had his afternoons free to surf.
shrubberynights ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:51 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That has nothing to do with how little this woman's sphere of influence is, or how little impact panhandlers have on the economy, and whether, as a result, the time and effort spent on recording this wouldn't be better spent exposing things that actually impact everyone, rather than a relative handful of people that drive through a specific intersection.
g_squidman ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:58 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depending where she lives, she may very well be homeless with a car like that. It's pretty common in places like LA to work an office job and still not make rent.
headmustard ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The woman is a cunt for what she's doing, but so is the dbag for hounding her with a camera.
shuvvel ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yo, harassment isn't a right.
flatspotting ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to Vancouver BC. (Not to say we don't have a very, very serious and real homeless/drug/mental health problem with the DTES and around downtown) but you get insane amounts of these kids acting homeless on Granville street - and tourists and locals alike seem to buy it up. I see them at night sometimes when im biking taking their shitty clothes and 2 dogs and 5 skateboards back into their SUV that mommy bought and heading home for the night. People need to learn how common and big this scam is.
Give food, never money.
MrShawnatron ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tl;dr Lady do illegal thing, what authoritah do?
So what can she expect to have happen to her by the authorities? So let's say her story is straight, and she's disabled. She collects from the government, yet owns a 2016 car bought new, and she's wearing a marathon shirt while jogging quite healthily for a homeless person down the island of the road. My grandmother makes $895 from the government monthly for being disabled in California, and she co-pays for prescriptions so take away $20. Realistically speaking you would need at the very least $200 put away to go for food for the month, expecting she only spends it on herself. Where are you realistically putting away the money to purchase that car?
Disregarding the possibility that she is possibly disabled, she would have to be evading taxes, because she is collecting what are essentially donations. Let's say $15 an hour on a busy street near a fast food area, not taxed. People come around with money to spend. Makes sense why you would panhandle there.
So, she is either saying she's homeless and also disabled, which is illegal or illogical because you can't file for disability without a stable home of some sort. Or she's not actually disabled, claiming to be both disabled and homeless, and collecting money of the oblivious which won't get taxed.
There's also the subtle threat on their life, which may be taken as if she was saying someone may not take too well to their harassment in the future which may end up in them dying, but it was probably just a flustering of an idiot who got caught red-handed clasping for things to say to have any sort of argument left.
Again, what are the repercussions for this? What can you expect to happen to someone like this from a legal standpoint? At worst, she's fraudulent in either collecting disability she doesn't need or she's conning people out of their money when she has a influx of income, maybe both, and she made a threat on someone's life.
She's a cunt.
age_of_cage ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How the fuck do those idiots end up coming off as even more obnoxious than her?
Neuromancerrr ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:11 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean I'm glad she was exposed but the people that expose this kind of shit are always just as cringe in my opinion. "I'm going to tell McDonald's your parked in their parking lot without being a customer".
The truth speaks for itself there is no need to act like you are a bad ass by degrading these people even if they deserve it.
sunnydavis ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lady, if you want to con people out of their money, at least put in some effort and commenting on how the video games are sexist or something.
kraussersirwolfie ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:38 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man...Merica you just all sorts of fucked up.
FreshmanYo ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 16:25:17 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, she is very attractive for a 'homeless' person. I could easily see her pulling in 30-40$ an hour doing this. Its weird but I feel like women make more than men when it comes to begging.
Just1morefix ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:57:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have set the bar almost in the dirt if this "homeless" women is very attractive.
FreshmanYo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:43 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay like she wasn't a filthy toothless grey haired lady.
partytime71 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 16:35:36 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you see that moose knuckle showing through her grey sweatpants?
ArcboundJ ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:38:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just playing devils advocate here but, is what she's doing all that bad? Who is it hurting? People don't have to roll down their windows and give this lady money, and I can't imagine she makes that much off the people that do. So the fuck what she's asking people for money? Unless panhandling is illegal wherever this is taking place I really don't quite understand the hatred this is generating. Yeah, she's probably lying about being homeless, but even then, who the fuck really cares? And maybe she really does have a disability? Why is that possibility immediately dismissed? She certainly doesn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer, and neither do the two filming her. In fact, the McDonalds employees seem like the most sensible people in this whole video.
Is witch-hunting this woman really taking the moral high ground?
Again, I disagree with what she's doing, sure. But I also disagree with the absurd amount of negative attention she's getting, and the demeanor of the two guys recording the video. This isn't exactly the highest level of fraud we're talking about here, even if it is some kind of fraud.
Eteacles ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:03:39 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whether it's wrong that she's faking being homeless or not, you have no fucking right to be harassing this lady like you are. Fucking pricks
[deleted] ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 18:38:35 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why are only women doing this?
WillyTanner ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 18:31:25 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He should have tried blackmailing her for sex and then busting her for prostitution when she agreed
Dantheman2236 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:22 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to be homeless to pan handle. I know a man that has a job and a home but pan handles at night for extra cash.
I_am_BrokenCog ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 18:18:37 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the YT version of beating up homeless people.
Why does it matter to the cammer what income/residence/lifestyle the beggar has?
Cammer IS harrassing the beggar. She was minding her own "business" and someone who doesn't like her "business" came along and accused her of violating their point of view.
Beggar's POV is that she wants to stand on a street corner breathing car fumes in the hot sun ... let her! maybe she thinks it's more fun than waiting tables or sucking dick or selling stocks.
I understand that cammer and his ilk might feel like beggar scammed some people for money ... perhaps they should remember what Daoism says about giving: The person giving should thank the recipient for the opportunity to all them to feel good about giving.
Cammer is a true SJW ranting about something which doesn't affect them and feels they need to change behavior of someone else.
Speedking2281 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the issue that is being taken with this women is that she's out there with her "Homeless" sign, and is untruthful. Someone begging isn't the problem. Lying in order to play on the sympathy of others is what people have a problem with in this case. Same if someone claims they have some disease and sets up a Gofundme...if they lie to play on the sympathy of others, it is worth the scorn of others just for lying, but it also hinders people with those actual issues to get the attention they might have otherwise.
I_am_BrokenCog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:13 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, now we're so concerned about honesty in the public realm?
talk about asinine. I don't disagree with you ... I think that is the motivation of these cammer's, they said as much.
I think that perhaps the energy of being upset about "dishonesty" might be better spent calling bullshit on the really dishonest claims made by ... oh, say CEOs, Presidents, Governors ... but, those are too big to tackle. Easier to harass some random woman.
It's curious that they didn't choose to harass a male homeless person ... mysogany, perhaps? Fear of physical reprisal, perhaps?
Again, what does it matter?? We choose to live in a Capitalist society. Selling water with bubbles in it for a profit ... some would call deceitful scamming.
The point is, it's a persons' own decision to do what they want with their own time, and another person's own decision on what to do with their own money.
littletriggers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:18 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the fake homeless lady.
I_am_BrokenCog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:09 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
seems I found the SJW wannabe.
Cronus6 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:26:06 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My guess is redditor and Bernie Sanders supporter.
PoopEndeavor ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:59:47 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If someone is panhandling daily for money they don't actually need, I feel sorry for them. Being them is probably punishment enough.
Since normal people don't do that, there probably is something wrong with her. Not all disabilities are visible and government assistance doesn't always cut it. Unless she is outright abusing a charity organization or doing it for malicious reasons (not enough context in the video), these "vigilantes" just come off as bullies to me. They think they're so tough intimidating this gangly woman. If she's doing something illegal and they're so worried about justice, they could go to the police.
Get a hobby, guys.
silverfox762 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:52 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it just me or does no one else know that people can have a newer car and still be homeless? I own a 2011 Camry and have for 4 years. It was a gift from a family member who wanted a new car and could afford to give away the older one. If I lost my job or had another bout of pneumonia, I'd be living in the damned thing.
ZaMelonZonFire ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:27 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can we just get to the doxxing please?
DermoKichwa ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:53 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't imagine a single good reason these guys give a fuck what this woman is doing. Who cares why she decided to panhandle? Who cares if people give her money or not? She's not stealing, she's accepting.
Fine, think panhandling is wrong, decide on an arbitrary line to draw for who it's okay for, but why in the hell would you commit yourself to chasing her around a McDonald's parking lot with a cameras in her face? They're bigger losers than she is.
SenpaiMoose42 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:02:49 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, that was pretty bad of her to do that, but you should never get into how much they're making out of a financial disability check, whether they're disabled or not. Bad on your part.
flyguysd ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:12:29 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are so many other injustices in the world which deserve our attention other than a lady asking people for money who may not need it as bad as a truly homeless person. Yes she is being fraudulent, but she isn't stealing anything.
[deleted] ยท -24 points ยท Posted at 18:36:26 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
GigiReddit ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:39:01 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope.There is no excuse to be out here scamming when she could get a job and not abuse people's kindness. That's what people are upset about.Abusing the kindness of strangers when most people would just step over you and ignore you walking down the street.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:16:16 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's wrong with this? People who give her money believe they're helping her out. Both parties win - She provides people with the happy feeling of helping someone in need while she gets money. This is no different from using money to buy any other type of good/service.
acetrainerjames ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:15 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is dishonest. There are likely a number of factors that have led to her being in this position, but this is not really going to help her get out of her position at all. It is the same reason a lot of states require you to actively be looking for work when you start receiving welfare.
Voixoff ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 17:23:46 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You guys need to get a life rather that annoy random people You ain't the Justice League. You are selfrightious asses
What do you know about her life ? She may need it. She may be homeless and living in her car. She may be disabled.
Don't give her change if you don't feel like it, but don't expose her on the internet. What are you hopping, that she gets beaten by an angry mob next time ?
You have a wrapped sense of justice.
Whoooa ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 17:01:31 on May 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever heard of mental illnesses..? They are just like any other illnesses, they need treatment. If you wanted to change things so badly (to even go harass this woman) you could try to actually help her.
EDIT: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/02/us/02cars.html credit to /u/mrwyskers I really dont understand downvoting me