Forty-three students favored banning DHMO, six were undecided, and only one correctly recognized that 'dihydrogen monoxide' is actually plain old water.
Here's the information he gave the students:
Dihydrogen monoxide is colorless, odorless, tasteless, and kills uncounted thousands of people every year. Most of these deaths are caused by accidental inhalation of DHMO, but the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide do not end there. Prolonged exposure to its solid form causes severe tissue damage. Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance. For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death.
Dihydrogen monoxide:
is also known as hydroxl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the "greenhouse effect."
may cause severe burns.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
Contamination is reaching epidemic proportions!
Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice. DHMO has caused millions of dollars of property damage in the midwest, and recently California.
Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
as an industrial solvent and coolant.
in nuclear power plants.
in the production of styrofoam.
as a fire retardant.
in many forms of cruel animal research.
in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.
Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal. The impact on wildlife is extreme, and we cannot afford to ignore it any longer!
The American government has refused to ban the production, distribution, or use of this damaging chemical due to its "importance to the economic health of this nation." In fact, the navy and other military organizations are conducting experiments with DHMO, and designing multi-billion dollar devices to control and utilize it during warfare situations. Hundreds of military research facilities receive tons of it through a highly sophisticated underground distribution network. Many store large quantities for later use.
Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
Dude, I can't Wash away this water!
B0Boman ยท 143 points ยท Posted at 00:42:45 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't tell you how many times I've grabbed a measuring cup, used to to measure water, then made sure to rinse it out when I'm done. You know, to rinse out all the water.
I either turn it upside down on a towel by the sink to let it dry, or if it's one of the smaller cups I just make sure it's the topmost one in the stack.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:30 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, its more clever than that. He says it's been found in almost every one in America, which is technically true because not every stream, river, and lake has been discovered.
So...yeah.
JoXand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I took it more as a reference to the fact that plants are whatever percentage made of water but your take is much more amusing.
Edit: Wait, "Dude I can't wash away this water.
" would still work with my take but I took your take as someone trying to dry off a plant by washing but am no longer sure that that was your take... So maybe your take was more amusing but maybe it was the same with my take on your take being what I found amusing...
The noble Nestlรฉ company is taking the valiant effort of making sure they take all this chemical out of the eco system and are doing so at no cost to the government.
Chukens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, wow. They're raising rates while paying CLWA ~$800k in dividends. Now CLWA's working on buying out the third of four water utilities in their bid to control all of the water in Santa Clarita which they are expressly forbidden from controlling as per their enabling act. Also they've managed to get legislation passed that lets them into the energy sector. All hail the one true unregulated public utilities monopoly.
Who the hell gave them the power to do anything other than the one thing they were created to do: sell non-local water wholesale to distributors.
Undergrad microbiologist here. Plants actually don't necesarrily need water because it is a bi-product of cell respiration. Water certainly helps them grow but there are thousands of species that survive on a day to day basis never drinking water once in their life (think deserts).
I don't know much about desert plants but I do know that every lifeform (that we know of) cannot survive without water. It's the universal cellular solvent.
If you dont mind me asking. What are ribosomes. Im pretty sure they're inside of cells but im not sure of what they do.
heuve ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ribosomes are essentially the manufacturing facility in cells for the production of proteins.
They read sequences of nucleic acid which have been exported from the nucleus and follow them like a blueprint to attach amino acids (protein building blocks) together in the specified sequence.
In factory, there are several ancillary functions (material acquisition and preparation, energy supply, export/distribution) that aren't necessarily handled at the heart of the manufacturing operation. Similarly, ribosomes require a lot of help, but do get the glory of piecing together the proteins required for all cellular functions.
Ah k. Thanks for answering that. I guess i could have googled it but i really enjoy reading the replies of people knowledgeable on the subject in question.
heuve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
No worries, I enjoyed having the opportunity to explain them! I agree explanations from knowledgeable people are often more interesting, understandable, and informative than technical sources.
Edit: but be skeptical of "knowledgeable" individuals who don't provide sources for additional information on the topic. People who are passionate about something want to help others learn about it too.
wOlfLisK ยท 316 points ยท Posted at 20:28:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, I knew going in it was out of context facts about water but now I'm just about ready to grab a pitchfork and protest the government. Where's /u/pitchforkemporium when you need him?
You may think aluminium is immune to generating dihydrogen monoxide reactives but I can tell you once the temperature reaches 500 degrees C there's bound to be a BOOM worse than Sodium or Potassium.
Yes, the wikipedia page says that that site was inspired by Zohner's research.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:17:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's even mentioned in it haha.
"Research conducted by award-winning U.S. scientist Nathan Zohner concluded that roughly 86 percent of the population supports a ban on dihydrogen monoxide. Although his results are preliminary"
Atario ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:53:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a future English teacher, and I want to use this as an example for my students. Maybe when they see how language can be used to manipulate people, they will be more inclined to learn it.
Webo_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To me, this seemed like the closest thing to a lie in the document. The wording implies that people become dependent on water, when really they are never not dependent.
That and the "almost every lake" sentence are the two which stretch it a little - you could replace "become dependent" with "for those who are dependent" as it has no implication that you are never dependent on Water
There is a village in Louisiana called Dry Prong, referring to a dry creek.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:54:20 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're commonly called Arroyos and are all over the Southwest. They fill with water for about a week and leave creekbeds with plants all around, but the trees live because there's almost continuous water flow underground
I actually really like how out in a lot if not all of the dry outback creeks and rivers the bed is all sand - it's nice and cool walking through the sand barefoot under cover of the overhanging branches of trees on the banks - unless there are no trees, in which case you've wandered too far and you're in the desert.
There is actually a specific word for a dry stream, it's called a "wash".
Tridian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:49 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've never heard of dry streams? They're probably more common than dry lakes. Seasonal things that flow when it rains for a few weeks/months and then dry up until next year.
I guess it comes down to if you consider a dry riverbed or a river that only exists during certain times of the year to be a river. If you're counting winter only river, during the summer you won't find any of this extremely dangerous chemical in it.
It also implies that water is a threat to the environment and needs to be banned. Implying the wrong thing without actually lying is the entire document
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:32 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is a threat due to erosion. It's not a pressing concern though, takes a long time.
jh139 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know? Mabye you only think that because your mother took it when she was pregnant..
Velln ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:29:32 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To me, this seemed like the closest thing to a lie in the document. The wording implies that people become dependent on water, when really they are never not dependent.
That's the point though. That's how ads / political rhetoric / sales / fear mongering do it. Imply everything imaginable without quite lying.
Reality is most likely that both women and men are less likely to use protection the hotter their partner is.
It implies that it's only men.
Thought technically it didn't say that. If you brought that up you'd undoubtedly get a response like "Well we didn't study women so we don't know.". What a giant coincidence it seems to imply otherwise! lol
I agree. I was reading along fine, amused at the effort, and then seeing that line gave me pause....because it was, essentially, a lie, for that exact reason.
We are dependent upon water . We depend on it for life , we are more than 3/4 water . To withdraw from it , as is moving away , is certain death . Not withdrawal as in addiction . It was written like that for a reason , it's part of the project .
He probably just watched everyone else lose their shits over it and died laughing with the other kid. Come to think of it, maybe he was in on it the whole time...
As someone who used to be that one kid, nothing would have stopped them. Either he was that one kid, which is totally plausible, or the school honestly didn't have any (other?) kids whose parents knew enough basic chemistry lingo to make that joke at the dinner table. I think I heard it from my dad in 1990 or there-abouts.
I mean, the joke isn't as old as water, or shockingly uneducated adults, but it's gotta be as old as molecular chemistry.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Theres always smart people that would abolish his ideas everytime, though.
fnonpm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The main idea is tricking enough of the population to agree with you and dismiss the smart people's claim (kinda how politicians dealt with climate change in the past).
For some reason I read this in Jerry's voice from rick and morty (the father of main kid). His voice actor is also the narrator on a kids cartoon called Word Girl.
Honestly, I laughed my ass off at just about everything in that show. I am not sure what it is. I think the voice actor for Squanchy from R&M also did a cameo on Word Girl. And Archer/Bob Burger guy. What the shit is up with word girl and having voice actors from other cartoons I like
And you're right about 2brains and squanchy; they were both voiced by Tom Kenny! Spongebob! And now all I can imagine is Spongebob... *shudders* squanching!
spgns ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:37:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-checks existential map- Good news!
"What good are 'checks', if anyone with decent hand dexterity and ill will can simply forge them?"
"What good is existentialism if philosophers are often intellectually dishonest and fallacious?"
"What good are 'maps' if 'time is a flat circle'?"
"What good are hyphens if they sound kind of like 'hymens', which frequently have direct associations with child abuse scandals?"
"What does 'good' even mean, if you really think about it?"
"What good is 'news' if the media is controlled by false flags and leopard-people from the UnderDomain beneath the singularity?"
All of these are important questions, which will most likely be asked by Jaden within the next few months. If you were smart like him, you would realize your question has so meaning, and ~dramatic pause~ neither do YOU.
All of these are important questions, which will most likely be asked by Jaden within the next few months. If you were smart like him, you would realize your question has so meaning, and ~dramatic pause~ neither do YOU.
I tend to go for so so meaning questions myself, but sometimes you come up short.
spgns ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:04:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tend to go for so so meaning questions myself, but sometimes you come up short.
Typos are my way of finding meaning in this illusion that we call our Univrese. Without breaking through our lexical boundaries, we are bound to be bound by metaphysical bondage. You probably aren't deep enough to understand. ~scoffs dismissively~ etc
It was. I was just doing that thing where someone rewords the comment they are replying to and doesn't add anything of value to the discussion, but I did it as a reply to someone who just did that.
Methane lakes under DMHO deposits wouldn't be contaminated I think. Anyone correct me?
Xoebe ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:14:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Methane clathrate is actually methane that has been trapped in a structure made of crystallized DHMO, and is relatively common on Earth. It's possible to have pure methane lakes under layers of pure solid DHMO, but I think formations like that are extraterrestrial.
It's possible to have pure methane lakes under layers of pure solid DHMO, but I think formations like that are extraterrestrial.
Correct, no such formations of pure methane lakes have been found on Earth and none are expected to be found. Their existence in extraterrestrial environments is due to the extreme cold resulting in them condensing.
A 14 y/o wouldn't normally be at such a Dad level as to slip such a savvy pun into a stream of consciousness. There's too great a gulf between appreciation of the pun and victimhood at that age, although I imagine he'd currently be far more appreciative of the art, and might even meander back through his notes and bemoan missed opportunities. Anyway, I've spent enough time wading through these posts, so I'll see you all later.
tehlou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:29:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A stream can be a "continuous flow of liquid, air, or gas", a lake can be a "large surplus of a liquid commodity", and a reservoir can be a "place where fluid collects".
Because it makes it sound more dangerous, insidious and pervasive. It's also "true" in that almost every stream does contain water. The rest of them do too. But that means almost all of them definitely do.
W92Baj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are 3 classes of streams: perennial, intermittent, and ephemeral. Only the perennial has water flowing year-round.
A perennial stream or perennial river is a stream or river (channel) that has continuous flow in parts of its stream bed all year round during years of normal rainfall.[1] "Perennial" streams are contrasted with "intermittent" streams which normally cease flowing for weeks or months each year, and with "ephemeral" channels that flow only for hours or days following rainfall.
Doesn't matter it's not a lie if you take the definition of lakes, streams, etc. as being bodies of water. DMHO is in nearly every lake, stream, etc. It's also in the rest of the streams not included in nearly every stream but that's not important.
Is it a fact that the american government said "importance to the economic health of this nation" was the reason they wouldn't ban water? Putting that in quotes was bullshitting.
DrDew00 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:06:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The best bullshitters are the ones who do it without lying.
The text isn't factual if you read it carefully though. For instance the text was constructed to say: "But the pollution is global [...]".
That's a direct attempt at misleading the reader. Water isn't polluting the world, it is an intrinsic and literally basic substance of it. It's by definition the opposite of pollution. Pollution is something non-belonging that man added to the natural state of being. Water has been in nature before men so it can't be pollution. See here:
polยทluยทtion (pษ-loอoโฒshษn) n.
1. The act or process of polluting or the state of being polluted, especially the contamination of soil, water, or the atmosphere by the discharge of harmful substances.
2. Something that pollutes; a pollutant or a group of pollutants
American Heritageยฎ Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition.
Or
Full Definition of pollution
: the action of polluting especially by environmental contamination with man-made waste;
also : the condition of being polluted
Merriam-Webster
The student, Nathan, didn't write this he just provided it to the other students. It came from Craig Jackson's site published earlier: archived version.
Still good on Nathan for showing the importance of verifying information and the effects of misinformation.
Surely most of the students that he gave this to were youngsters with no chemistry exposure, right? A random population of high schoolers would have more than 2% that realize what dihydrogen monoxide really is.
I took chemistry in 11th grade. I would assume by classmates that means people the same age, and seeing as a 14 year old is likely to be in 8/9/10th grade, it's likely they've not had a chemistry class yet.
Even if they have, it's plausible they wouldn't notice anyway as dihydrogen monoxide is said only once. This leaves you a very low amount of time to catch on to the "trick".
in all fairness you cant. Water always fluctuates between OH-, H20 and H20+ by a process called self ionization, or something like that. To call it acid is incorrect but you can call water and acid and a base at the same time.
VyRe40 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:16:48 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I studied basic sciences in middle school, including some simple chemistry (H2O, what it means, etc.). This was at a state curricular level and federal level (changed schools when I moved overseas).
However, I feel this may better demonstrate how people may be predisposed to a lack of personal research effort. A lot of people learn current issues from the news, and modern news is fraught with misinformation and bias.
Then again, these are just kids. An interesting demonstration, but something similar may not apply as effectively on an adult population.
Scuwr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:43:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It could be dependent on the school. I took Chemistry in the 10th grade. Also, he could have started school early or skipped a grade. I graduated highschool at 17, and there are plenty of stories of kids graduating even younger than that. His "peers" could have easily been 11th graders.
Scuwr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, I probably should have said that I was 17.5 when I graduated and hence started my senior year when I was 16. Plus I lived in Texas, so it was normal for people to graduate as late as 19. I was definitely the baby of my class.
Don't feel bad, literally the only use I've had for chemistry since I took it in high school was the 3 college credits it counted for. Oh, and maybe the dihydrogen monoxide thing. Other than that, unless you're going into the field, or a related field, it's almost useless.
You have a lot of misplaced faith in people. I'd be surprised if 6 out of 10 people could correctly identify that a water molecule is two hydrogen and one oxygen. Oh, they might know "H20" but they may think that say it's two oxygen or that they've forgotten what "H20" actually stands for. Dihydrogen monoxide would sound totally foreign.
The point of the experiment was to show how using true facts could mislead the ignorant, so he kind of needed people to not know what dhmo is. To be honest, I think it would trick a lot of adults too unless they worked in a chemistry related occupation.
A couple of years ago my teacher played the same trick on us, although I think he said it was him that came up with the idea. The point was made, however, and the majority bought it even though we were a high-school level chemistry class.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plenty or concerned adults - I would assume a few at least had some skoolin' - have fallen for this. Dihydrogen Monoxide hoax
Loved Penn and Teller's version where they passed a petition to ban on Earth Day
While the kids this was done on likely hadn't had chemistry yet the average person probably wouldn't pick up on it either since they haven't taken chemistry in forever.
Just like the adults with very little knowledge of science being frightened by scary chemical names in their food. They sound like a perfectly reasonable population for the study.
I did something similar in high school. Teachers freaking signed my "petition." Pretty sure my chemistry teacher had a few drinks that night when she saw who all had signed it. Youd be amazed what people will actually sign. Also, look up the politician who built his entire campaign on banning dihydrogen monoxide.
I think the point of this project was to show that given the right facts about anything, you could get people to oppose it - you just have to call it a different name. Not whether they were smart enough to recognize that Dihydrogen Monoxide is water.
Wiki says this joke, and a joke website existed prior to this kid entering. Im guessing the speal, and the idea is plaigerized from the website ( they didnt check school kids projects in those days )
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the point wasn't to show that they didn't know what he was talking about. it was to show that true facts about a particular topic could be used to lead a group of uninformed subjects to a false conclusion about that topic.
I encountered this in uni, and didn't figure out it was water till I finished the whole thing. My gf didn't figure it out at all.
People generally don't piece together a write down the molecule to see what it looks like. The only reason I did it was because I was skeptical of the claims.
Just replace DHMO with JEWS and you can almost see how hitler did it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:43 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jews are found in nearly every body of water?
Withdrawal of Jews causes death?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:59:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus was a Jew. The Jehova's witnesses dropped off some material that said you can get "eternal life" if I follow him and their religion, implying that you'll never die. Therefore, withdrawal of Jew = death
actually, in context of the time that was written, I believe we were getting hit by mudslides, flash flooding, and in general the fact that many buildings in SoCal often are not prepared to receive lots of rain due to either design, or lack of maintenance.
ktikp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today.
So there are some streams and lakes without water ?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:05:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Generally dried up bodies of water are still bodies for the water. An empty reservoir is still a reservoir.
There are 5 lakes made of lava on the planet if I recall correctly, one of them being the "Gateway to Hell" or Erta Ale in the Afar region of Ethiopia.
You think dihydrogen monoxide is bad? Just wait until you hear about oxidane. It's found as an end product in combustion reactions and its residues end up in almost all our foods and liquids. On December 26, 2004, an oxidane chemical spill killed an estimated 250,000 in Indonesia.
croomsy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An then, after receiving the prize, the 43 people who had been made to look like fools by him exacted their revenge every day for the next four years of high school.
Seakawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:25 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's sad is that this isn't exclusive to kids.
I'd bet a lot of money that you'd get significantly similar results from adults. And if not with this example, then absolutely similar examples (vaccines/autism, fossils/evolution, geography/ancient world flood, etc).
For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death.
Contamination is reaching epidemic proportions! Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice.
Definitely an interesting project. Really cool idea! I'd say this is less a pure use of truthful facts, and more a use of truthful and stretched truthful facts. I wonder what the results would have been had the project not confused subjects on purpose to trick the reader. This was also a 14 year old's project, and I'm not sure how many 14 year olds would know chemical symbol words. I'd say this has given evidence that if you stretch the truth, but still never technically lie, and present these pieces of information to readers who are completely uneducated on the topic, you can convince them to your point. But I would think that to be common sense. Just playing devils advocate here. Again, really neat project!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could you expand on the line "utilize it during warfare situations". Do you mean water directly or water as an ingredient in explosives or something?
and only one correctly recognized that 'dihydrogen monoxide' is actually plain old water.
This was the only friend in his class and he secretly told him and he decided to pretend he was "smarter" than everyone because he knew the answer. They later high-fived each other and everyone continued to ignore them as human beings.
Hey, is this what TIL has degraded into? Some dumb clickbait article about a joke that my chemistry teacher made long before this idiot teenager ever made it? Who cares?
To remember that and the white look of the lavatory made him feel cold and then hot. There were two cocks that you turned and water came out: cold and hot. He felt cold and then a little hot: and he could see the names printed on the cocks. That was a very queer thing.
So, he crammed it with true but misleadingly worded information and was able to fool children?... okay. I don't think we're all really secretly idiots because this hoax occasionally gains some press, I think we are all really secretly idiots because of the amount of back patting we give ourselves for spotting the joke.
This kid fucking killed it!!!! That is so fake it's legitimate
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:01:42 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A cool project but:
For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death.
Is just nonsense, but likely a large part of people saying "Hey we want to ban it" because death.
No one "becomes" dependent.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:24 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:31 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You don't "become" dependent on water, it is the natural state of things. You don't did from withdraw symptoms, you die from dehydration.
This claim moves his project of "true fact about water" into "disingenuous"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:07:41 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:58 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the other things aren't basically lies. The point is convincing people of bullshit with true facts. Not convincing people of bullshit with bullshit.
bofdee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Easy then, replace DHMO with everclear
xPofsx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually would not be opposed to this so long as they used only a 1/100 ratio of everclear to water/beverages. I like everclear straight and im not russian or whoever the fuck makes it
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember them playing for an Earl Blumenauer campaign at UO back in 2001.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Moonshine.
Synexis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everclear is essentially professionally-made moonshine. Because traditional moonshine is home-brewed, it does not have a standard alcohol-by-volume (ABV) attribute, but most methods probably only yield somewhere between 40 and 70% ABV. The upper limit for ethanol distillation bound by physics is 95.63% (azeotropic distillation would be required for anything higher). Everclear is 95% (although there is also a 75% version for US states that either prohibit the sale of industrial alcohol as a beverage, or that require buyers to obtain a special permit to purchase it).
Considering the most common additive used to break the water-ethanol azeotrope for lab ethanol is benzene, I don't really mind having 5% water in my everclear.
Fun fact, on the set of The African Queen, the entire cast and crew got horribly sick from consuming the native water. All except Humphrey Bogart, who drank nothing but whiskey the whole time.
The740 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mandrake, have you ever seen a commie drink a glass of water?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I vote we kill some brown people. That always helps me cope with my problems.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:18:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, a mother's body transfers dihydrogen monoxide to the baby in order to keep it alive and healthy during pregnancy. It even helps in the growth of the child. At least our biology knows how to process it in a non lethal fashion.
Get the fuck out of here with that water shit, man! Hydroxic acid and chlorine are used to correct the chemical balance, water is the part you swim in!
5hazz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's double the trickery. Even if you don't know what dihydrogen monoxide is, you still shouldn't think much of that statement. There are tons of things that everyone who has cancer has consumed, it doesn't necessarily mean those things are the cause for cancer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The population of the US has trebled since WW2... yeah blame it all on the brown people.
Intnop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, he's got a point. Currently, the fertility rate (average amount of children a mother will have in her lifetime) in most first world countries is around 2.1-2.3, barely enough needed to sustain the population (one child for each parent). In some cases, it's lower than 2.1, which means that some countries are technically losing populations (though immigration often helps in stopping these losses).
Meanwhile, in Africa and Asia, most countries are experiencing a large population growth. Fertility rate is above 3, sometimes even 4, and many countries, including China, are taking measures to stop the population from getting out of control.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, he doesn't. The west has already undergone it's rapid expansion in population, he's totally ignoring that to suit his casual racism.
Intnop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:17:39 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand? That's the point I'm trying to make. The west has already undergone it's rapid expansion in population, while the populations of Africa and Asia are still undergoing their development.
I suppose if you mean since the 50's, then sure, I see what you mean. But I'm talking about current-day.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:13:20 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We've been breeding like crazy. Everyone, every continent
they have a lot of immigration, and if you look at population groups that have been there for a while, like whites and ex slave africans, their growth is minimal. Global growth is slowing, except for africa, which just does not give a fuck. projected to become 4 billion in a few decades. (125 million a century ago)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:18:43 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, the US is 2/3rds immigrants that arrived since the second world war... What a load of old shit.
not what im saying. im saying the population growth has stopped significantly the last decades, even decreasing in some ethnic groups. Evenso, the pop growth in the west is nothing compared to Africa.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:03 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I'm saying that that is irrelevant. The phrase was 'we've been'. The entire planet has. He's ignoring recent history to fit in with his own little racist views.
were currently in the fastest world population growth in human history, although africa already grew tenfold the last century. Apparently pointing this out is racist. WASISSSS
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:23 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's how exponentiallity works. The west had a head start on the whole population explosion thing and Africa started at a massive disadvantage .
My idea is that we will reverse age, wait for technology to improve us, and then also become physically immortal, in addition to biologically immortal :D like fill our bodies with nanobots or something that absorbs impact, AI will be creative enough to solve it for us
vakula ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It still would be only potential immortality. Infinite time will realize even the slightest possibility of dying.
The thing with entropy though is that it's not really a "law" in way gravitation is, it's more like a pattern that tend to happen, sometimes it even spontaneously decreases, but in total, it increases.
I'm no physicist and know very little about this, but my gut is telling me there might me a chance of manipulating entropy on a smaller scale, say by manipulating molecules in a gas chamber to concentrate the kinetic energy or something.
I think quantum uncertainty is holding that idea back though, as we can't measure small things accurately enough :/
vakula ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing can be made 100% safe.
The whole idea of some ordered structure to exist permanent violates basically all fundamental physical laws we know. Conservation of energy, the second law of thermodynamics, quantum mechanics, cosmology.
AI cannot be smart enough to redefine all physics.
It's highly like that the government is pumping Dihydrogen Monoxide into the very building you're in! If you get just a little bit of it in your lungs, it's lethal. It's corrosive enough to eat through metal and rock. Hear more about this terrifying chemical on your local 5 o'clock news. (seems like a typical fear mongering local news spot to me at least)
It's cute when little kids fall for this kind of stuff, but it's sad when half of my Organic Chemistry class falls for it in college. Especially when it's to the point where one girl exclaimed "HOW IS THIS ALLOWED TO BE AROUND PEOPLE?!"
djc6535 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No no no. When you say "100%" you raise suspicion to the ruse. You say "An alarming amount of people to take so much as a sip of Dihydrogen monoxide die"
the_jak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
What if you diluted it in water so that the water memory protects you...or however homeopathy is supposed to work.
I also read in an article that Hydroxyl acid is present in vaccines.. And ever since then more and more children have been getting sick from vaccines. Why can't doctors greenify our vaccines? What are they trying to hide?
nhum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:41 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not true. Only about 90% of them. The rest are still alive.
There is an older documentary about how it affects certain animals. It can have different effects on different species, something they didnt know until they had an accident. When the animal was accidently exposed to Dihydrogen Monoxide in an unorthodox manner. They noticed right away that it changed something in the animal. It had greatly increased the fertilization of the species by 100+%!
Just like other species, its highly addictive and can make animals go crazy trying to get it. So maybe since it affects them just like us, maybe it can help with human repoduction.
This is simply not true. There are billions of people who have been ingesting it for years that are still alive. You can't say 100% of people die from it when there are billions of people alive that have ingested it. It could be that everyone who is alive right now could live forever.
Remember those 2 radio hosts that did this as an April Fools joke a couple years ago? (on April 1st no less).. and were promptly suspended and threatened with a potential felony charge. I think it was in Florida somewhere.
The stupidity of people being angry at the radio hosts was so infuriating.
It's not even a false report, that's the shitty part. Not only did they not call the Department of Health to report it, it was the listeners, but they were telling people a fact and they were too dumb to realize it.
Tapout shirt for your ears-- that's poetry. I need to work that into a conversation soon.
faydor ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:11:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha they know how to appeal to their target demographic. I have worked with almost all of the DJs on KISW and they are some of the coolest people I have ever met.
keeb119 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:15:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They seem cool. But the shows themselves are just stupid.
Rootner ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:21:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Been listening to a ton of 98.9 this past week. Overall a good station but man I'm hearing too many of the same songs at very similar times each day. The "Ninety Eight.....Niiiiine" jingle Also annoys me a bit too but whatever.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
99.9?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Moved up to Bellingham from Seattle and 98.9 the Fox is soooo much better than 99.9 was. I miss the old kisw though. Hell I even miss the old 107.7 the end
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not even local. There's a very large east coast duo whose token female is the goddamn stupidest human I've ever had to listen to. Between her and one of the guy's super conservative, rampant misogyny and dislike of pretty much every hobby and past time he isn't involved in, that he bitches about constantly and then just claims it's his dj schtick when people complain, I had to stop listening. My IQ dropped every time they came on. I miss when their old token female was still around, she seemed to keep things more even-keeled :(
Aelo-Z ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The shit works though. Look at The Big Bang Theory. Stupidest show on television, and one of the most viewed.
III-V ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're basically all the same. They're a mouthpiece for the US government. They'll all report the same things with the exact same wording (as far as national stories go). Conan O'Brien does regular mockeries of them.
Say enough big, scary, sciencey words and you'll scare people. Because "chemicals".
I saw something about people getting mad about "sodium bicarbonate" in our food. Then showed that it was used in fire extinguishers and paint removers.
Yeah... I work in the e-cigarette liquid industry and we get a lot of detractors complaining about Propylene Glycol in most liquids because it's used in anti-freeze. What they don't tell you is that Propylene Glycol is what they replaced Ethlyene Glycol with in order to make anti-freeze safe for pets (and strange people) who felt the need to drink it. It's also in a ton of other products like toothpaste and nebulizers and stuff.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:01:46 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get why people get all worked up about "anti-freeze ingredient" when there are real issues such as formaldehyde being produced in the vapor. Sure, the quantities vary and are often pretty low, but at least it's a known carcinogen.
Skov ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:26:56 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to long ago people were grousing about it being in fireball whiskey. I enjoyed pointing out that if you attempted to drink enough of the whiskey to OD on propylene glycol, you would actually OD from the water first. That would be if you somehow survived the alcohol poisoning.
The formaldehyde studies have all but been debunked at this point. The main study which most people reference was done in such away that they were literally burning the wicking material inside the vaporizer (called a "dry hit"). Anyone who's so much as taken a single dry hit will tell you that no sane person could do that more than once in a row without realizing something was wrong. It's tastes more disgusting than cigarettes. With proper usage, there is generally no formaldehyde production.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm aware of that. My point was that the device can be made to emit actual toxins, so it seems stupid for the freak-out crowd to take aim at a non-toxic component. It was just a thought about the weakness of their argument.
I recall seeing a bit for a show where a guy got an enormous number of signatures from people on the street, for a petition to "ban all chemicals." Like, how stupid do you have to be?
Oh, dammit...this is going to drive me crazy. That line (or something very close to it) appears in a Tim Minchin song, and I thought it was that one. I just did some basic googling, but didn't find it, and I'm currently predisposed, walking my dog. I'll try to find it later. Sorry about that misinformation.
kulwop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:38 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is a false report if they reported the water was unsafe. I think what's important is how the joke was handled. If they told everyone their water was unsafe, they should face repercussions. If they just kept saying, people there's dihydrogen monoxide in your water over and over, there's a lot more leniency IMO. Devil's in the details
95% of people who drink it die. The remaining 5% is just speculation.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:08:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Causation =/= correlation
Dihydrogen monoxide has been PROVEN to provide countless health benefits, including hydration, better brain function, etc. Do your research before your parrot info you've heard elsewhere
No, it literally doesn't. Tap water may have potassium in it... But dihydrogen monoxide does not have potassium in it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It's the dihydrogen monoxide you consume also composed of hydrogen and hydroxide ions. Hydroxide can you believe it!? I feel like I'm drinking bleach now, or a very deadly chemical
Every now and then (1 in 1000000, again, one of the hydrogen ions will be a hydronium ion)
Come at me media.
ejeebs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately also though, the mortality rate is the same even if you were to stop drinking it! So far, there is no cure for death caused by this substance.
test row incomplete(93% finished, although this shows a clear trend, in many cases a probable mechanism of action for the causing of death by hydrogen monoxide has not been established.)
838h920 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was noone who died without having it in his blood!
It's used in lots of chemical industries. It's used in nuclear power plants. Every year tons of it is dumped into our streams and rivers, lakes and oceans. It causes sweating and urination. In high enough concentrations it can be toxic.
koshgeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But everybody knows that. What's more interesting is the reaction if you tell people you can die if you drink too much water (which is true).
Clewin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, if you follow the reference, one of the kids arguments was that inhaling DHMO could result in death. That is an absolutely brilliant way to put it.
Here's some of the rest of it:
Dihydrogen monoxide:
is also known as hydroxl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the "greenhouse effect."
may cause severe burns.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
Contamination is reaching epidemic proportions!
Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice. DHMO has caused millions of dollars of property damage in the midwest, and recently California.
Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
as an industrial solvent and coolant.
in nuclear power plants.
in the production of styrofoam.
as a fire retardant.
in many forms of cruel animal research.
in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.
Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal. The impact on wildlife is extreme, and we cannot afford to ignore it any longer!
The American government has refused to ban the production, distribution, or use of this damaging chemical due to its "importance to the economic health of this nation." In fact, the navy and other military organizations are conducting experiments with DHMO, and designing multi-billion dollar devices to control and utilize it during warfare situations. Hundreds of military research facilities receive tons of it through a highly sophisticated underground distribution network. Many store large quantities for later use.
The real outrage is that corporations and their greedy CEOs don't necessarily have to label foods that used dihydrogen monoxide in their processing. A lot of GMOs are known to contain high amounts of the chemical.
My chemistry teacher loved to joke that the most dangerous chemical we would work with is dihydrogen monoxide, and that if it gets in your lungs you will die
The gaseous form of DHMO can cause severe cellular damage to the lungs.
lejoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:57 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mine threw a party at the end of the chapter we learned all of this in. She brought two drinks one marked dihydrogen monoxide ( Warning!) and Apple Juice, me and one other boy both were the only ones who go the h20 and several girls freaked out and told the teacher we were about to drink it.
To this day I have no idea how those girls passed that class.
High levels of Dihydrogen monoxide can cause irreversible damage to structures such as houses, bridges, and roads.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For extra fear factor you should also throw in:
"Even with limited inhalation of DHMO that does not prove immediately fatal, even a small amount can lead to suffocation and death hours or possibly even days after the first exposure if immediate medical attention is not received."
Compound is known as "the universal solvent" and does dissolve, at least to some extent, most common materials.
Is the best line.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like causing a panic because someone from a health department on a TV show decided to say that E. Coli is commonly found in people's guts. Utterly ridiculous that people fall for this without first conducting their due diligence.
It becomes interesting when you're dealing with another person and you suddenly find that they're using very specific words when normally more common words would be used, or inversely, start being vague when specific answers are called for.
You can get away with quite a lot by using specific words and letting the other person assume that you mean what they expect you to mean.
But it's only a tactic that's useful once with a given person because while you'll usually end up being technically correct, you'll definitely be remembered.
kaibee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:36:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But it's only a tactic that's useful once with a given person because while you'll usually end up being technically correct, you'll definitely be remembered.
Sometimes you can even get elected President, or impeached!
lumloon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And when you sift what itโs saying out of all the pedantic, oratorical flights, itโs just sectarian hatred dressed up in its Sunday (or Friday) best. For example, the โTashayyuโ that Wadi found in the North of Yemen is just another pejorative term for Shiโites, in case you get tired of calling them โRafidiiโ (โNaysayersโ). You can read about why itโs so evil, if you have a good boredom threshold. The second evil, โTasawwuf,โ means roughly Sufism, the introspective, quietist aspect of Islam. Itโs used as a pejorative here.
As an engineer that's one thing I tell our junior engineers; if you can't either quantify or explain something simply, you don't understand it. If someone you're speaking with can't do that, then the same thing is true for them. It's an excellent BS detection method.
The issue with that though is that water is unsafe. We just accept that in our day to day lives. Accidental inhalation can be fatal. Both its solid and gaseous forms can cause severe burns, and even its liquid form can in some cases. It can damage electrical systems and electronics beyond repair, including to the point of harming those around it (i.e. electrifying impure water).
All of those statements are facts, and ones everyone knows. Sure, they're worded to be misleading and overly alarmist, but that's the whole point. If I heard I had to apologize for saying those things, I'd be pissed.
If you're doing it on purpose, then you can still be in trouble. Though, it's hard to argue that this pair were trying to incite hysteria. They were just making a joke.
lejoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:14 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair it also should depend on the general audience. Albeit a joke, if the general audience is adult+ then it is safe to assume they have a high school diploma and should know better as certified by the state.
If they had coupled their comments about dihydrogen monoxide with recommending listeners go to Google to find out more details, this probably could have ended much more calmly.
lejoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:48 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
inb4 the majority of people who called in don't know what the internet is
The only thing I could see is if they were telling people they need to freak out, and that they shouldn't drink the water, and blah blah. It certainly doesn't sound like that was the case, but that's the only circumstances I can imagine that could possibly warrant any action.
Well, now that I think about it, I guess they did knowingly trick people into making water quality complaints. I understand why the people who had to deal with the phone calls got pissed.
furiun ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it's true that there was water in their water, but it's unclear if the radio hosts also told the listeners that dihydrogen monoxide was a dangerous chemical, which is untrue.
One of the articles says "it also remains unclear just how much the two hosts stoked the joke, and whether they actually told people to stop drinking the "dihydrogen monoxide" coming out of their taps." The other article says listeners "heard that county water was unsafe and should not be used for drinking, showering or for any use."
If the radio hosts directly said that the water was unsafe (as opposed to just implying this by calling water by its chemical name), then what they did might still be considered legitimately illegal.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:52:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a difference between saying that and saying something like "don't drink or bath in county tap water because it contains dihydrogen monoxide" (which the DJs may or may not have said--that appears to be unconfirmed).
It wasn't that they were saying the technical name for water, they were telling people it was dangerous. They said they should not drink, shower, or wash with it. I wouldn't know how to spell it, I wouldn't know how to repronounce it after hearing it once or twice. I wouldn't know what it is and those stations broadcast news as well as music. I would take them at their word if they were to say that the water is contaminated.
It was a bad joke. It didn't do any real world harm. They shouldn't have lost their jobs after 16 years, but they should have been reprimanded.
The article says that the DJs said not to drink the water, wash with it, or shower. According to the article they were stating that it was dangerous to use or ingest.
Well, if they were WARNING that "Dihydrogen Monoxide" was coming out of their faucets then it is a false report. While it is true that they were saying water is coming out of the faucet, the implication was that the water was unsafe and thus needed a "warning."
So, this is almost a "yelling fire in a crowded theater" argument. The legal argument could be made that they broke the law based off of our current definitions.
Illiux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"yelling fire in a crowded theater"
This line comes from an overturned supreme court decision regarding laws that made anti-draft speech in WW1 illegal. Stop using it.
The problem here is that we don't know what the DJs actually said. If they said anything along the lines of "Don't drink the water," or "the water is unsafe," then they are absolutely falsifying water quality. If all they said was that there was DHMO coming out of the taps, then yea this is fucking retarded.
How is saying the water is unsafe is a false report? Unsafe is a subjective expression. I could say airplanes are unsafe, or I could say they are very safe. Depend how you look at the data. Water out of a tap can cause death and injury and it does so on a regular basis, so even calling pure drinking water unsafe is not a false report
Reach- ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:43:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In what way can i intentionally misinterpret the information at hand so as to justify my wanton outrage?
Good thing there was nothing false about stating that dihydrogen monoxide was coming out of people's taps.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:04:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From the wire article:
it also remains unclear just how much the two hosts stoked the joke, and whether they actually told people to stop drinking the "dihydrogen monoxide" coming out of their taps.
That to me would be key, because if they said it was dangerous or harmful, or that people shouldn't drink the water, then it would be inciting panic. I'm not sure how there isn't a recording of the broadcast somewhere, maybe it's just crappy journalism and they never bothered to actually research it.
Unfortunately this falls under the category of inciting a panic. Kinda like yelling "FIRE!" at a movie theater. Even though there's no fire, your actions, despite everyone else's knowledge (or lack thereof), caused a situation in which real panic on false pretenses could cause real injuries to real people.
Edit: For clarity, I thought the joke was fucking awesome.
Edit Edit: Apparently this is necessary, as people forgot how to use Google.
You can only do so much to protect people from what they should have learned in school.
Gefroan ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:38:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you think that distracts from the point I made, than feel free to grab onto it.
But languages aren't dead and they evolve every day into new dialects and eventually branch off. Only the pompous think they have some patent or right to what constitutes their language.
Anything the majority of people doesn't like should be banned. In fact, everything should be banned by default and unbanned by majority vote. Make every space a safe space. For normal people anyway. If you don't like it go back to Mexico. /s
Gefroan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:04 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That the government should protect me from anything that might scare or offend me so that I can live in my own little bubble of ignorance and that there are only two kinds of people in the world: Real Americans which are white Christians that agree with me on everything and illegal immigrants which only come from Mexico.
I was mocking the mind-numbing xenophobia, ignorance and stupidity that sadly exists in some places.
Knowing that dihydrogen monoxide is water would only save them from the specific case of making themselves look like idiots by complaining about the water in the water. School can't completely disguise their idiocy.
The solution is for them to not be idiots, think for themselves and figure it out on their own. A government that ensures that nobody is ever exposed to something new or different because it might scare them is the epitome of the nanny state.
Something in the water? Long on facts and short on information? Never actually told not to drink the water? Only being reported by one station? April 1st? Not reporters, but actually a couple of radio DJs? From "The Gator?" Nothing from regulators? Better panic.
As Nathan proved, whenever confronted with something they don't understand but makes them feel bad their first instinct is to make someone else make it go away so they don't have to deal with it. Maybe if it were socially acceptable to mock the willfully ignorant they would actually learn something for once.
It must be incredibly useful. Put on a suit, look important and cast something in a particular light and people will beg you to destroy it for them.
Kinyin ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:38:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The issue is mostly the format. Going around and getting people's signatures on a petition is far different than broadcasting to tens of thousands of people. Not everyone has the same education, circumstances, etc., so it must be assumed that there's a portion of the population that is going to panic. If it hadn't been a radio show, I doubt there would have been much retaliation.
Yeah, everybody is saying people are fucking stupid but the truth is that if my father were to hear the radio say all these scary facts about dihydrogen monoxide he would have come home being nervous and worried, because he simply doesn't know better.
And that makes me sad... sad that he would have reacted this way, and sad that people would have thought he's stupid.
He is stupid. I'm not stupid, because I now know that dihydrogen monoxide - the term I copy/pasted from the article - is another way to say water.
Everyone is acting like they wouldn't fall for it, and while I probably could've reasoned that di(2)hydrogen(h) mon(1)oxide(o) is water, not everybody comes from a background of education. There's a great lack of general knowledge of many fields in any given individual regardless (and it changes dramatically based on location, think country vs city), so it's a bit unreasonable to expect everyone to know all the simple things. People just like to feel superior.
Osbios ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So how exactly does this so dangerous panic look like that could happen?
And how is it different from people just being "offended" like for example religious people after you tell them that bone cancer in children is maybe a sign that there is no god or that "his" big plan sucks and he is a terrible being.
Kinyin ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It comes down to the interpretation of the constitutional right of free speech. It's commonly held that one cannot incite panic, violence, etc. Not only that, but local laws, federal laws, etc., can play a part. In addition, the scale of what is said, how many it reached, and the judgement of officials comes into play, too.
Rush Limbaugh, for example, has said many things on his radio station that have been quite charged, and plenty of other radio hosts have given their beliefs, even if false, to the masses.
Then you take this example where two radio hosts are stating that one of the main supports of civilization, access to clean water, is at stake. People are affected, businesses are affected, etc. Even if it comes down to ignorance on the masses's part.
They just chose the wrong format and scale in which to play a prank.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I understand panic, but once learning about what it really means and realising it's more about their lack of education - it should left at that. Demanding the person to be punished and scolded after learning the truth just reflects badly on you, and it's makes it appear that you're just angry to learn you are not as smart as you originally thought you were.
Wait what? How did that thought process occur in your brain?
Yglorba ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:38:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Allow me to explain. Here is a simplified graph of the inside of Sararia's brain.
Sararia ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Wait your asking me that? Not the guy who jumped from a fire, to fucking rape
Edit: seriously, there is something very wrong with you, if you can't have a single discussion without bringing up rape.
There is an underlying mental condition that causes you to constantly by thinking about rape, please inform your counselor that you need to receive some treatment for that before you become a rapist.
I believe the person was referring to how you concluded that the poster is a liberal based on the information given to you.
Rape
Sararia ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because its a widely acknowledged and discussed phenomenon, that liberals in america are obsessed with rape. There isn't a debate about it, they are obsessed with rape, they are obsessed with making up statistics for it, discussing it, and some are even becoming upset that its not more common. I assume hope that the reason for the last is because it simply doesn't match the statistics they make up, not that they actually advocate for more of it for the sake of more of it.
If you aren't just trolling we can continue this in PMs and I can link to several sources, articles, and studies done to prove my point. But I doubt you are doing anything but trolling.
You're the one turning an unrelated thread into a rant on your political beliefs.
Sararia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you wish to continue discussing this, I can link you to my paypal where you may commission additional responses. That said, and my final note on this topic. Its not I who brought up political beliefs, it was the liberal who jumped directly to rape in a conversation talking about water.
You think your shitty opinions are worth money? You must be taking every drug produced by mankind right now. In fact, I'd need to be given money to hear your shit.
Okay so go to a movie theater where they don't know the word "cinema" and start screaming it like everyone's going to die. You will be penalized.
It's the context, not the content.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:07:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The context is that inciting a panic on false pretenses is cause for legal trouble. You know, the context of the comment above?
There were no false pretenses. They told the truth. They also knew that telling the truth would get ignorant people riled up. It's the intent to cause harm that's the problem, not any sort of false pretenses.
I don't care what you're yelling even if it's "Candy!" I'm fucking booking it out of that movie theater. If someone is yelling at a movie theater 9/10 times it's probably trouble haha.
It doesn't matter how stupid the people are, the issue is that you created a panic. Yes, the people here are catastrophically stupid, but it doesn't change the fact that the joke probably cost the county time and money.
If you shout fire as a way of over exaggerating or misleading people (eg a candle is in the room or a match or something), then fuck yes you should be punished. That shit is scary and most people believe it or not don't want to die. So they'll freak out.
That's on you. And it's illegal for very good reason.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Do you understand the concept of intent? If you say something stupid with the intent to panic people and fuck with their heads, you deserve to be punished. I don't care if they told people the sky was blue. What matters is if they intended to scare people and cause fear. That's fucking illegal.
And I live in the US kiddo. Maybe you should actually study the law before you pretend to know anything about it.
No laws against telling facts. What does that even mean? If I tell someone confidential information that I can't disclose, that is a crime, even though I am just telling facts...
The issue is intent to cause harm, not the truth or falsity of the statement
Not sure that the local water utility needing to make a press release due to multiple inquiries about the security of the water supply is strictly equal to a stampede in a theater. I don't think anyone was trampled in the execution of this joke, nor was a riot incited. I think that's why all charges were dropped. Brining a felony charge against them would have been a frivolous charge, in my opinion. If a riot had broken out, certainly such charges would have been merited though. I think it's a no harm, no foul situation. The local authorities were doing some saber rattling to try to dissuade others from pulling the same time-wasting stuff though -- and I think that's appropriate.
The problem comes when they are telling people the water is bad. A lot of people don't know that dihydrogen monoxide is water, so when they hear people on the radio saying not to drink, cook, or shower in the water, and that's all they say then it is kind of inciting a panic. All it takes is a few old people (I'm sure they have a couple of those in Florida) to catch that snippet of the show, and boom panic. But, saying it is warranted to be a felony is a bit much.
China does this... there are some downsides to holding news outlets accountable for exaggerations.
I think its best to encourage advanced education so that it is harder to get people riled up by exaggerated news. So, we will make it a felony punishable by life in ADX Florance to not have a doctorate degree; that should fix it.
Wouldn't it be more like yelling "AIR!" at a movie theatre and everyone panicking because they stupidly confused someone yelling a word with someone announcing a need to escape.
[deleted] ยท 178 points ยท Posted at 18:38:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 18:46:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seventy divided by the amount of hairs on gabe newell's back growth gives us 7
There's 7 deadly sins...if we take away envy, sloth, pride, and lust from the group, the 4 sins that manifest in any neckbeard still making these half-life jokes, then we have 3 left.
Half Life 3 confirmed.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is not to say that many of the other "noble" gasses make it EASY to form compounds. For lots of them you generally have to bend over backwards, but it has been done.
Inert and noble are not the same thing. Noble is a particular family of elements, inert just generally means REALLY non-reactive.
For example, glass and polypropylene are generally considered to be inert.
deyesed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:02:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Legitimate concern when working with liquid nitrogen.
Smauler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, nitrogen leaks have killed people before.
If there's a large enough nitrogen leak to reduce the oxygen around you to too low levels, you will die without even noticing.
Like I said, it has happened, and you're only really at risk if you're in an enclosed space, and working with nitrogen, which is very few people.
Same with any gas I suppose. Maybe not the not noticing part but you get it.
Smauler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every gas can kill you if not in normal concentrations? Of course.
Inert gasses like nitrogen and helium don't kill you directly, but they can replace the oxygen without you knowing. There are plenty of gasses that will kill you directly, though.
Yes. I was mostly joking. I watched a video of experiment where pigs could put their heads into an enclosed trough to eat, but it was filled with nitrogen. The pigs would pass out and the researchers would drag them out into fresh air. When they awoke, they would immediately stick their head back into the nitrogen filled trough to get more food.
That actually very well could cause a panic though... Hell, just misunderstanding "nitrogen" or not knowing what it is (quite likely, not because people are stupid, it's easy to forget in such a situation) could really freak people out and people tend to feed off each other's reactions.
I mean even if you did hear nitrogen and knew perfectly well it's inert, you might very easily believe you misheard them and would leave anyway cause someone is yelling in a panic about the room being filled with something.
God help us if he releases a small blast of hydrogen sulfide.
geniice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean even if you did hear nitrogen and knew perfectly well it's inert, you might very easily believe you misheard them and would leave anyway cause someone is yelling in a panic about the room being filled with something.
If the room was filling with additional nitrogen it could very well be a panic for more informed people. The nitrogen would replace the oxygen in the air and you would die by asphyxiation. The scary part is that you wouldn't even feel short on breath because that's caused by co2 buildup, which you still breath out.
This example exactly underlines the point being made, stating a fact that is harmless but preying upon the ignorance of others for an effect. Intent really is key here.
4_jacks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome point :)
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:21:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not everybody has the education to learn what Dihydrogen Monoxide is. I didn't know until I read about the pranks online. I think it's a bit of a dick move to make fun of people like that, personally.
No one's being made fun of. (not in the original prank anyways)
The only way to look like an idiot is by acting on this information when you have no idea what dihydrogen monoxide is.
Like if someone tells you we need to ban "gggh" would you just say "ok, done".. or would you maybe find out what "gggh" was before you committed to banning it?
Besides that... if it's a dick move to lie to someone on APRIL FOOLS day, well there's no avoiding that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well looking the info, people called their local utility companies, which is pretty much exactly what you should do in that situation, I feel anyway - and these probably aren't people that are either greatly educated or up to date with tech.
I dunno. I'd imagine it was more grandmas and grandpas, and you know that lots of them are pretty gullible. I'm pretty good with chemistry, so I might check twice, but I'm not sure if I could say the same for my grandmother.
It's just one thing to joke about a celebrity being in hospital or dinosaurs being discovered and some poisonous chemicals being in the water supply. I wouldn't mess around with water, food, or radiation.
From my short experiences as a radio presenter you should really have your audience and location in mind...in a for-youth radio station in the NYC? Yeah, sure, they know their stuff pretty well. On a country music station in south florida? Maybe not so much.
Sorry for the spam, my mind is slightly gone. I get your side as well - I don't want you to agree. This is just my side.
Not everybody has the education to learn what Dihydrogen Monoxide is
This isn't rocket science. You can google it and find the answer in about 30 seconds.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:08:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if they're old and don't have good access (or knowledge of how to access) it? What if they're too poor for that? This is Florida we're talking about.
And the list of technicalities can go on forever. I'm sure some of the callers would fall into those technicalities but most just don't have enough sense to google something before panicking.
[deleted] ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 18:36:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except fire itself is very dangerous. This is like yelling "OXYGEN!" in a movie theatre and getting punished because some idiots thought that oxygen was a dangerous chemical. Maybe you shouldn't be so fast to defend stupidity?
Flammable as hell, reactive with a whole host of materials including some metals (eventually rendering them structurally unsound) and carbon, which is the primary building block for all life on earth.
It is incredibly addictive. The longer one goes without it, the more they crave it. On the flip side, attempts to wean oneself off the chemical are also fatal 100% of the time. Once you become addicted, you can never become un-addicted.
betaray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's so sad, because the vast majority of us are exposed to dihydrogen monoxide in the womb. We never had a chance!
Exposure to dihydrogen monoxide can cause some metals to corrode... and they expect us to actually drink this stuff??
oozles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whoa there... I have a problem with your death figures. I don't think they take into account modern advances. Its like saying microorganisms and infection are responsible for the vast majority of all deaths in war. While that may have been true at one point, it isn't nearly as relevant today.
As a matter of fact... every single living person on Earth (with a few exceptions) has frequently come into contact with dihydrogen monoxide and show no sign of adverse effects.
Lets look towards the future and focus on the health and growth rate of infants and toddlers. Within merely a year infants more than double their weight and before 4 years double their height. Compare that to our past, the oldest man and women alive. They experience illnesses and difficulties that are incredibly uncommon to people born even 20 years after them. Just look at the rates of dementia in people born in the 50's vs born in the 70's. And compare that to people born after 2000!
The times are changing. The only logical conclusion that can be reached is that mankind has experienced a tremendous leap in our evolution over the past 80 years and are showing to be much more tolerant to dihydrogen monoxide, and generally being much more robust. At the rate things are going, by 2100, kids that are alive today may be ruling the world as immortal giants.
100% of deaths have shown a direct correlation with the consumption or overexposure to the dangerous chemical dihydrogen monoxide. This is correct because roughly 7% of all humans ever born are alive right now, so only 93%~ of people exposed have died like /u/chasteeny said. And long term exposure isn't really a buzzword that gets people worried, because people will assume they would've already noticed if it were a problem to them.
Pandemonium ensues as overexposure to life-threatening chemical dihydrogen monoxide causes the deaths of just over 300 Californians since just the start of the summer. That's right Tom, and what's worse is seemingly nothing is being done about it. DHMO poses a dangerous threat to children - particularly infants - with cases of death even just feet away from their devastated parents. A loving mother of 3 children, including her deceased 2 year old boy, Charley, had this to say:
"I didn't know it was happening... It looked like he was just having fun swimming in the pool (sob), I had no idea it was infested with DHMO. How could I have known?"
DHMO raises major concern partly due to the fact that it is completely transparent, and mixes seamlessly with almost any liquid. It lacks even a distinct smell or taste, and signs of harm caused by the substance often go unnoticed even by those watching closely. If you're a parent, it's your job to make sure you understand the symptoms of DHMO poisoning, as it can prove fatal in as little as 5 minutes, sometimes without warning. Dangerous amounts have been traced back to public water supplies in the area, more on DHMO in a minute.
Now the unknowing parent is scared shitless for their children, and is going to wait through the commercial break to hear the rest of it. In a swimming pool? And she had no idea? She was even paying attention? We're staying home, honey, and I'm buying a new water filter.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
or probably better, yelling "NITROGEN!" being that most people would probably recognize oxygen as what we actually use when we breath, but I'm guessing a large number of people would not realize nitrogen makes up a lot of the air we breath.
Goluxas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:11:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The air you are breathing on an airplane is recycled from directly outside of your window. That means you are breathing everything that the airplanes gives off and is flying through. The air that is pumped in isnโt pure oxygen either, itโs mixed with nitrogen, sometimes almost at 50%.
More like yelling NITROGEN IS IN THE ROOM and running out in a panic. Or yelling THIS ROOM IS CONTAMINATED WITH RADIATION.
Things that while true, are not fully common knowledge to the world despite you believing it should be (a decent chunk of the population didn't finish high school and even some who did don't have to take chemistry) and would seem dangerous enough to these people that they should panic.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:35:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This doesn't apply to the above case as the literary said water was in the water as opposed to saying fire was in the movie theater when it wasn't. They haven't incited a panic, they are merely stating a fact. Yelling fire in a fire less movie theater is obviously inciting a panic as it isn't a mere statement of fact.
2059FF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
water was in the water
Yo dawg I heard you like water.
geniice ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:34:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This doesn't apply to the above case as the literary said water was in the water
No they didn't. They literally said alarmist garbage name for water was in the water.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
alarmist garbage name? it's just the chemical name
2hydrogen1oxygen = H2O = dihydrogen monoxide = water
They teach this stuff in high school...
Plus it isn't hard to take 5 seconds to just google it.
geniice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
alarmist garbage name? it's just the chemical name
The chemical name is water. This may shock you but chemists have to spend a fair bit of time working with non-chemists. We call things by names that people will recognise rather than using poorly applied systematic naming rules.
Its garbage because you don't use the systematic naming rules like that and its alarmists because the rules are being deliberately abused to get that monoxide in there.
2hydrogen1oxygen = H2O = dihydrogen monoxide = water
2hydrogen1sulfur =H2S=Hydrogen sulfide
If for some reason you wanted to use a systematic name then it would be hydrogen oxide.
caleeky ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't work like that. The entire premise of the joke is the knowledge that some people don't recognise the chemical name for water and will assume it's something else that's dangerous.
As such, anyone deploying the joke should reasonably expect panic over a danger that does not exist. It's not an excuse to say you didn't think of that, because the test is "a reasonable person" - not you the accused.
They're still "inciting a panic" by taking advantage of other people's ignorance.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:14:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The first link that shows up on your edit:
The First Amendment holding in Schenck was later overturned by Brandenburg v. Ohio in 1969, which limited the scope of banned speech to that which would be directed to and likely to incite imminent lawless action (e.g. a riot). The test in Brandenburg is the current High Court jurisprudence on the ability of government to proscribe speech after that fact. Despite Schenck being limited, the phrase "shouting fire in a crowded theater" has since come to be known as synonymous with an action that the speaker believes goes beyond the rights guaranteed by free speech, reckless or malicious speech, or an action whose outcomes are obvious.
It seems like shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater isn't as illegal as most people think.
This is not like yelling fire in a movie theater. If you're comparing those, then they would have said something along the lines of "ACID IN THE WATER!"...
This is more like (like jjsocrates said) yelling "Cinema!" in a movie theater. When they're just using another word for water as a joke and people are so stupid to even bother looking it up before panicking considering water is something they've been using since they were formed in their mothers fucking womb, then they probably should not bother using water at all.
The 'FIRE!' litmus test works against you. IN the ruling that cites this, SCOTUS found the danger has to imminent and immediate.
ayesee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:40:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately this falls under the category of inciting a panic. Kinda like yelling "FIRE!" at a movie theater. Even though there's no fire, your actions, despite everyone else's knowledge (or lack thereof), caused a situation in which real panic on false pretenses could cause real injuries to real people.
If the word "triggered" ever applied to me, it would be any time this example is trotted out to explain why protected speech isn't protected.
The fire in a crowded theater example came from the odious judge Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. to silence Yiddish speaking immigrants from passing out anti-war and anti-draft pamphlets during WW1. It is no longer a part of US law regarding speech, and while it was, shined as one of the most egregiously bad rulings and precedents set by the high court.
The current standard for free speech limits is and has been for some time that of Imminent Lawless Action.
i don't know, i can see the opposite side of the argument here. there are SO many scary "you might silently die in your sleep to an undetected gas" commercials that exist to sell carbon monoxide detectors and services etc.
it's not unreasonable to make the argument that some people listening misheard or got the idea that it was a similar thing, without thinking about it. it's almost exactly like yelling FIRE in a crowded auditorium as a "prank". sure, people should know better, but the chance of causing harm is real
however, radio hosts can broadcasts to thousands or hundreds of thousands of people, some of who may panic and cause harm to themselves or others in their paniced state
I guess it comes down to how it was presented. I'd like to hear a recording of what was actually said or at least read a transcript. If they were saying shit like, "the water isn't safe! It's filled with DHMO!" Then yea I can understand the problem and the yelling fire analogy makes sense.
SilasX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's more like saying, "OMG the theater is at a high energy state!" -- i.e. something trivial that people shouldn't be worried about, and then people misinterpret you as meaning the theater is on fire and then calling in a false fire alarm.
It would be like yelling fire, if there actually was a fire. That's perfectly legal. If people are scared of water that's their own problem. The legal system would be fucked up if you're responsible for every single possible misinterpretation of every sentence you say. Imagine the chaos.
This is not entirely accurate...if you are doing it for the purposed of inciting a riot, you can, in fact, be found guilty by a judge. While there is not technically a law in writing stating this is illegal, the only "logical" reason for someone falsely yelling this in a crowded venue is against the law.
Actually, it is entirely accurate. Being arrested for something that is not against the law will never hold up in court. It is just a bullshit libtard myth.
Did you know that supreme court decision was never a binding law and that the court decision was overturned in 1969? Fucking retard. Go delete your life from this planet you dumbfuck.
Would you like me to Google your own reply for you, as well? Alright. Fine.
"The First Amendment holding in Schenck was later overturned by Brandenburg v. Ohio in 1969, which limited the scope of banned speech to that which would be directed to and likely to incite imminent lawless action (e.g. a riot). The test in Brandenburg is the current High Court jurisprudence on the ability of government to proscribe speech after that fact. Despite Schenck being limited, the phrase "shouting fire in a crowded theater" has since come to be known as synonymous with an action that the speaker believes goes beyond the rights guaranteed by free speech, reckless or malicious speech, or an action whose outcomes are obvious".
They knew it was going to cause a panic. That was why it was funny to them. To laugh at stupid people. And that is why it's illegal. I'm done, now.
It is not illegal you dumbfuck. Go read Hess v. Indiana (1973). In this case, the court found that Hess's words did not fall outside the limits of protected speech, in part, because his speech "amounted to nothing more than advocacy of illegal action at some indefinite future time,"[1] and therefore did not meet the imminence requirement. Stupid fucking reddit retard, go die in a fire.
Hess was convicted in city court, and the Indiana Supreme Court upheld the lower court's ruling that Hess' words were intended to incite and likely to produce further lawless action on the part of the crowd. But in 1973, the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Hess' conviction on the grounds that his speech was protected because it was not obscene and did not amount to "fighting words." The U.S. Supreme Court also ruled that Hess' speech, taken in context, was unlikely to produce any "imminent disorder."
Did YOU know that the 1969 ruling merely limited the scope of non-protected speech to inciting dangerous behavior (ie. shouting fire yadda yadda) and the overturned verdict was about distributing anti-draft leaflets?
What's your point you fucking retard? the original case had nothing to do with yelling fire, IIRC it was just an example the court used as an example. You stupid reddit dumbfuck. You can yell fire in any theater in American and there isn't jack shit anyone can do about it. Stubborn dumbfuck, just admit you are wrong and the fire in a theater shit is a bullshit myth. Now suck my dick you dumbass faggot.
My point is the example still stood after the ruling as an example of non-protected speech.
You wouldn't be prosecuted for the use of the phrase, but you could be prosecuted if a riot broke out for inciting a riot (which IS illegal). The rulings are simply legal precedent that you would not be able to use "free speech" as a defense in such a case.
But you CAN use free speech as a defense, that's what the courts final decision was. I can use dogshit on your forehead as a defense if I wanted to. There are no limitations of defense in a courtroom you dumbfuck. Stupid stubborn reddit dumbfuck. Typical fucking retard, knows he is wrong but will do everything he can to pretend he is not. Go fucking kill yourself you dumbfuck worthless sack of shit.
Yeah but dogshit on your forehead doesn't count as free speech and neither does yelling fire in a crowded theater. The whole point of both rulings was that there are limits to free speech, and what was debated was exactly what those limits were.
No, it is not like that at all. Yelling fire in a crowded theater is making a false statement that has the capability of creating an actual dangerous situation (i.e. people trampling one another as they attempt to evacuate).
Stating "dihydrogen monoxide is coming out of people's taps" is not a false statement.
Edit: Does the person that downvoted me have any interest in refuting the statement I made? I am genuinely curious as to your reasoning.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:37:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This would be illegal as the intended goal would be to make all the firemen try to use the firepole at the same time, causing injury. You sick fuck. /s
Sure, but it only incites a riot for the stupid people. The best possible outcome is for them to go on a water strike and die out.
Or maybe I could start a side business of providing Dihydrogen Monoxide detectors which would be small colored capsules that, in the presence Dihydrogen Monoxide dissolve and grow into dinosaur-shaped sponges.
It was for a false claim about the water safety, which is a felony.
Though, given that it's technically true, I would have fought that.
TheHYPO ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:35:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless they said "oh no, DHMO! Don't drink the water! It's not safe!" or "Dangerous levels of DHMO!" - since we don't know exactly what they said, we can't really judge
You can probably find a way to construe "dangerous levels of DHMO" as 100% accurate.
ptown40 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:40:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If they stated true facts, the case wouldn't have gotten very far, you can't be charged with a felony on the grounds of "false claim about the water safety" if what they said was true. If all they did was say a bunch of true stuff about water but replaced water with DHMO their lawyer would have no problems.
TheHYPO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you said "you shouldn't drink the water, it's not safe because there's DHMO in it", the fact there's DHMO in it may not be false, but the "it's not safe" part or the "you shouldn't drink it" part is. Again, we don't know what they said.
""My understanding is it is a felony to call in a false water quality issue," said Diane Holm, a public information officer for the Florida Department of Health in Lee County, because a false report can affect a large segment of the population."
Yes, I read it. It gives no information indicating they did anything other than telling people H2O was coming out of the taps. That's not reporting a false water quality issue.
i mean, dihydrogen monoxide is a highly corrosive chemical, and it kills 100% of the organic material it came into contact, im sure you dont want any of them getting into your water supply right?
Exemus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Joverby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
right!?!? they straight up told everyone that WATER was coming out of their taps.... how could they possible get in trouble / need to apologise for people being fucking idiots and not knowing basic chemistry?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This just just radio in a nutshell sadly. That's why podcasts are becoming so popular.
It depends on how they phrased their alerts. If they were saying something like "don't drink, prepare food with, or shower with water because it contains DHMO", then that's pretty sketchy.
Depends on how they framed the joke. If they said "warning, we're getting reports of a dangerous chemical, dihydrogen monoxide, coming out of taps county wide" that's grossly misleading. Stating that it's dangerous is incorrect and causes undue alarm for people who are ignorant about science.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say a felony is a bit above and beyond, but if you're a media person who is deliberately trying to trick listeners it's understandable why they were suspended. No one would expect Matt Lauer to say "we've been invaded by aliens, please everyone stay inside for the rest of the work day"... 5 hours later "April fools bitches!". I don't know why lesser media outlets should be allowed to do some Onion type things and not have some consequences. People listen to the news, whether it's TV, paper, radio, why should radio guys get a pass because they usually just play music with news updates periodically?
it also remains unclear just how much the two hosts stoked the joke, and whether they actually told people to stop drinking the "dihydrogen monoxide" coming out of their taps.
This is key. If they actually told people to stop drinking it or that it's unsafe, that's creating a false panic.
To you this may seem stupid, because it is obvious to you what dihydrogen monoxide refers to. But to someone who does not know (perhaps not even due to low intelligence--simply lack of education), this could understandably sound legitimate and be a serious concern. I am almost certain that if I issued an official warning about pyridoxine found in food, most people wouldn't realize that I'd be talking about vitamin B and be serious concerned. If you knew what pyridoxine was, I'm sure I can think of something else that is more obscure and just as innocuous. Can't really fault people for lack of education.
It's Florida, land of the stupid. There was a post on here a few weeks ago about a public outrage about someone saying the word "penis." The word was somehow more offensive than the fact that a teacher accidentally showed his students a picture of his cock.
Well if you think about it, if that station got even 100 people to switch from being tap water drinkers to bottled water drinkers and they tell their friends tap water is dangerous then it's really the environment and everyone else the radio host is hurting. Maybe all the people listening aren't native English speakers they don't know what the scientific term for water is. It's a stupid April fools joke but they can't control how many people actually find out its a joke. A person could listen switch the channel and then be afraid of their water supply.
It depends on what exactly they said. I'm looking for a transcript but I can't seem to find one. TheWire article alludes to them saying not to drink the water. Without knowing what they said it is hard to judge.
If they said 'There is 'chemical' in your water, do not drink the water.' I'm not sure if it matters what the chemical is, saying not to drink the water (if it is safe) on a radio broadcast would be illegal.
In most tapwater there are a ton of chemicals. In many communities there are low levels of arsenic (still safe to drink). The radio host in that area can't say 'Beware! There is arsenic in your water! Do not use your water, it has arsenic in it!' if the water is safe to drink. Sure there is arsenic but it isn't a health problem and you are broadcasting on a federally regulated frequency.
So it really depends on the context and without a transcript we don't know what was said.
btoxic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:31 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Korashy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:53:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
At will employment only works when your fire someone without telling them why. They were probably told exactly why they were placed on indefinite suspension and why they were/would have been sacked. in that case it's wrongful termination.
edit: Maybe not particularly in this case, but certainly if it's due to things like sexism, or because of ethnic hair/religious symbols that aren't covered by a dress code requirement before hand.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Contacts are excluded for at will. I assume a lot of hosts work on contract.
They are incorrect. IANAL either, but: In an at-will state, to prove wrongful termination the employee must prove that public policy would encourage the behavior that the employee was fired over.
An additional requirement is to prove that the employer was either exercising bad faith, retaliating against the employee, or acting maliciously.
From what it sounds like, public policy specifically discouraged this behavior, which is enough to toss the case on its own. I'd bet they would also have a really hard time arguing bad faith here as well, and basically impossible to prove retaliation or malicious intent.
I see. That's complicated. I know my company we don't do a lot, even if we know we are in the right, simply to avoid getting sued. Even if we are right, it costs money to fight.
But I'm pretty sure you are still ok to fire someone for any, non-protected reason, aren't you? I guess that's a better wording of my question. I'll have to ask HR tomorrow. Though I may get funny looks.
I don't know, getting your station threatened with a lawsuit and tons of angry listeners sounds like pretty rock solid grounds for termination.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:16 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have hearing problems then. A bogus lawsuit and angry listeners don't matter. In fact, angry listeners can be good. Angry listeners is a big part of why Howard Stern did so well.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:00 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, hearing problems, nice.
Thanks. I appreciate that you saw what I did there.
And if the employer doesn't agree with that?
Contract! Look at the contract. I bet you that is why they were allowed back. I bet the station's attorney told the station that they were going to get bent over and done dry in court.
With the kid, it showed that kids should learn something from this and be more open to analyzing and strengthening their own critical thinking.
With the adults, it basically said people are irredeemably stupid so you get punished for making them look like fools, since they won't learn anything from this.
[deleted] ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 19:03:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
people are irredeemably stupid
Sadly, when you're not getting punished by them for making feel bad for being stupid, you're getting shit on by them because they are too stupid to be responsible. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't. If you're going to be damned, might as well have some fun.
HZCYR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kacey Musgraves reference?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No?
HZCYR ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:26:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough. Similar lyrical lines in "Follow Your Arrow". I just saw it and thought, 'reference?'
What it tells me is that Idaho (the state where Zohner attended school) took the lesson to heart, while Florida is a backwards 3rd world country that should be kicked out of the Union before winter sets in and they complain about how 75 degrees is "cold".
With the adults, it basically said people are irredeemably stupid so you get punished for making them look like fools, since they won't learn anything from this.
Whatever. The air surrounding you has so much dioxide it helps sustain flames. This dioxide is responsible for the west wildfires, and we need to take steps to remove it from the air.
Less making them look like fools and more "making" them make dangerous decisions. Like when the guy read War of the Worlds on the radio and people thought there was an alien invasion and some people committed suicide.
HuoXue ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:58:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's a different sort of fool-making, though. There is no active threat in claiming a chemical is dangerous, but telling someone there's something coming to kill them makes it into a thinking, breathing entity that you need to flee from.
Dokkaan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is an active threat in saying the water coming out of your taps has a dangerous chemical in it
I think the point is something akin to getting in trouble for shouting "OH MY GOD! THE THEATER ISN'T ON FIRE!" in a crowded theater.
It's factually true but it still starts a panic, however stupid that panic may be.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:57:37 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
people are irredeemably stupid
People as a whole are not irredeemably stupid. As a whole, people are quite sensible and intelligent. The spread is quite large though, and the bottom 10-15% - oh boy. Morons.
With the kids, they're not really considered people*, more like super intelligent animals. Nathan did the most sciencey science at the science fair, so he got best in show first prize. The feelings of his classmates are irrelevant.
With the irredeemably stupid adults, you are punished for making them embarrass themselves. They believe that they are above average intelligence and that believing everything said by anyone important enough to be on the radio is the way that other above average intelligence people learn things. The way that they interpret the things you say is your responsibility. Now that you've been punished they can go back to their favorite important looking person and believe everything they say, confident that every word is the absolute truth. They probably don't know what critical thinking is or if they do, dismiss it as "stupid nerd shit."
Irredeemable stupidity is developed in school where they are taught to believe everything the important looking person at the front of the room says as if it were the absolute truth. There's no critical thinking on the test.
* Consider bullying: "I don't care who started it, I'm finishing it." If you are attacked and defend yourself, you are both equally guilty of making someone do actual work. You have to apologize to each other and shake hands. At best, your attacker will be "punished" with a few days vacation. It's not about right or wrong, it's about making the fight stop with the least possible amount of effort, like you would with dogs. Only adults are important enough to break out phrases like "assault and battery" and "self defense."
I just feel that most of the people calling a guy who could be leader of the free world "stupid"... Well they probably couldn't win a seat on their city's legislature.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:59:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Stagism ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:34:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe that's the difference in stupidity and ignorance.
I mean the smart thing to do is to not be a douchebag if you find out you didnt know something. Literally no one knows everything, there's no shame in not knowing something but there is shame in being willfully ignorant and douchebagging on top of it.
exactly ,when they found out it was water, instead of just laughing at themselves they doubled down for being tricked. Some people need to learn to laugh at themselves.
Yes but I also have a Master's degree so I wouldn't expect everyone to know everything. I WOULD expect people not to be total douchebags when they don't know something however.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:17:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thats the thing though. Almost anyone is gullible when it comes to something they think is being mistreated. I am sure you could tell Penn that the Chinese are subverting our economy through cheap labor and social practices and he wouldn't even question it bc he is a libertarian.
I.. what? Set them straight? Are we talking about the same Penn? He has always seemed like a really smart switched on guy, didn't think he would be a climate change denier
IIRC they were going to do an episode where they bashed themselves for all the kind of things like that they pulled on the show, but it didn't live long enough :s I guess the point was to come off as too strong for everything, making them look like assholes, but then soften it a bit at the end by pretty much saying "See, we just did it to you too! And we, as humans, are just as susceptible to it!"
"My understanding is it is a felony to call in a false water quality issue," said Diane Holm, a public information officer for the Florida Department of Health in Lee County, because a false report can affect a large segment of the population.
It's not a false report though... they literally told people that they had water coming out of their faucets. It would be more scary if it wasn't Dihydrogen Monoxide coming out.
Malphael ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 18:38:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The issue is that they lead people to think that the water was unsafe.
If I tell my friends that a guy in clown suit is hanging around the street, following kids around and giving them candy, I am gonna get in a lot of trouble when my friends call the police and it turns out it was a McDonald's promotion and I knew that.
But you wouldn't get in a lot of trouble. You've accurately relayed some totally true facts which have a perfectly reasonable explanation. If your friends utterly misinterpret that, or react inappropriately, it is not your fault.
You wouldn't get in any trouble. It's called a misunderstanding, and it's not a crime. Let's not make up stories just so we can get angry about them.
If anything, it would be your friends getting in trouble for blindly calling the police about a second hand report of entirely explainable, legal activities.
Meh, I'm sure I could find some crime it fits. Its not like there isn't enough of them.
Point is, I'm intentionally misrepresenting a fact in a way that I know or should know will cause a panic.
Or what if I stood outside a store and told people the apples they sell contains cyanide which is deadly. Do you think that the store would have no legit grievances against me?
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Drinkus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean advertising laws exist for this reason to prevent factually correct but misleading information for being used to sell a product, but yeah doesn't apply in these instances.
I was more leaning on the "The water is unsafe if you look at it like this* type of argument. If you drink too much, it is unsafe. If you submerge yourself in it for a period of time, it is unsafe.
In those cases, the water really is unsafe. They should have been punished though, claiming this substance "dihydrogen monoxide" was coming out of everybody's faucet - nobody knows water by that name. They effectively claimed some "unknown" substance was going to harm people, not that water would - even if water is exactly what they were talking about.
The water is unsafe, but they obfuscated their meaning by using the chemical name that nobody knows. If they had straight up said "Water itself, which comes out of everybody's faucets, is inherently dangerous and can kill you" then we wouldn't even be discussing this 'cause it'd be a non-issue.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:12:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I could fix this by learning new things often and keeping up with news and reading, or I can retaliate because you exposed my ignorance... I'm going to go with "B"!"
Nabber86 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 18:19:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
ash2102 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 18:45:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What what what.. "Research conducted by award-winning U.S. scientist Nathan Zohner concluded that roughly 86 percent of the population supports a ban on dihydrogen monoxide. "
Z4ppy ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 19:17:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, technically that's completely correct...
YxxzzY ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:38:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
also shows one of the biggest problems in/with statistics
bajuwa ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:46:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a matter of statistics. It's a matter of the strength of one's assumptions. You assume that the award he was was significant. You assume that the research performed was official and well constructed. You assume that by "scientist" they mean "PhD accredited". You assume that being called a "US scientist" means he's nationally recognized, instead of simply being a citizen by birth.
No, I think what he is pointing out is that you see headlines with some stat i.e. "~86% of the population..." but often times there is a lot of experimental error, especially with sampling. He asked 50 classmates. Such a sample is not representative of the entire population.
bajuwa ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:54:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You assume that the research performed was official and well constructed.
I consider appropriately selected sample sets (not just sizes) to be part of the "well constructed" point. Also, to keep with the pattern: You assume that "population" refers to global population, not the sample population.
That is the most stupidly brilliant article I've ever read. The part where they warned about DHMO in swimming pools and as an athletic performance enhancer had me in tears.
Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.
Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.
Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.
DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.
Contributes to soil erosion.
Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.
Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.
Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.
Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.
Given to vicious dogs involved in recent deadly attacks.
Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere, and in hurricanes including deadly storms in Florida, New Orleans and other areas of the southeastern U.S.
Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.
I've heard the whole dihydrogen monoxide bit at least a dozen times in my life (and I remember enough chemistry that I could figure it out in a few seconds anyway) but I get where they're coming from. The experiment in 1997 didn't pose any danger. It was just a "game" at a school.
Announcing on the radio and implying your water supply isn't safe is far-reaching and implies an immediate danger. Someone might panic and act on the information before you say "Haha april fool's." It's like flicking a lighter and yelling "fire!" in a movie theater. Technically true, but it can cause a lot of panic.
If someone said "Hey there's arsenic in your water here's how bad arsenic is for you..." on live radio it would also have some truth behind it. It just so happens the amount of arsenic is so negligible, it isn't harmful (usually). Fears of being poisoned and the inconvenience of not having running water probably aren't the best jokes.
Talking science on a country station? Those djs should be fired. I assumed this hoax was not on a country station when I was on the djs side. This is like tricking handicapped people, which is wrong.
Can confirm. Former country radio DJ. You should have heard the irate rednecks calling in the first time I played Big and Rich. Those dudes did NOT like having rap mixed in with their country.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it was a rap station there would have been riots.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:56:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So sad:
In answer, the station put up a poll on its website asking when the DJs should return: immediately, Wednesday, Monday or never. As of Tuesday evening, 77% of those polled said never; about 20% said immediately. The station said voting is restricted to once every 48 hours, but the results do not show the number of votes tallied.
The more I learn about Florida, the less I like it.
Ar_Ciel ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:28:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ar_Ciel ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:52:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, each region of FL seems to have a theme to its fucked up stories. Fort Meyers and Sarasota tend towards stories of base stupidity. Rural and Central FL places like Lakeland tend to be drug and alcohol related. Violent stories tend to be a theme in Tallahassee (when it's not political fuckery). Racist cop stories tend to come out of the west FL coast and the Tampa Bay area tends towards a grab-bag collection of all of it. There's exceptions, as with all things, but that's the current trend I see now.
Anyone dumb enough to fall for that should go have their muffler bearings replaced, headlight fluid checked and get the flux capacitor calibrated in their cars," Jimmy Martin said on Facebook.
They even had health professionals (RN's) call in and tell them that what they were doing could lead to water intoxication. It's dangerous and could kill somebody. They just laughed them off and actually were making jokes about people "getting drunk" from water.
scy1192 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:24:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that looks more like they got in trouble for saying the water utility was contaminated and unsafe
KimH2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:58:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I imagine it falls under the "can't yell fire in a theater" category.
Even if they were really only saying it's 'contaminated' with water people heard 'unsafe water supply' and panicked.
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njm1314 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:16 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've actually been trying to find their exact words but it's proven difficult. The articles never make that assertion though.
Probably because they were purposely stirring up hysteria and attempting to create a panic situation. Lots of people called the police and were refusing water (since the hosts claimed the water was tainted with it).
Everyone keeps calling people stupid for falling for it but how many of you actually knew what dihydrogen monoxide was before reading any article about it? Now imagine how many people in their 40s and 50s who havent even thought about chemestry in decades hearing about something that sounds similar to carbon monoxide (an extremely poisonous gas that kills hundreds every year) tainting the water supply. People are gonna think its bad.
There's a poll on the Gator Country website asking when the two DJs should return to air, with (at the time we viewed the results) 78 percent of those voting "never."
That's a worrying percentage. Thank feck they were allowed back, a little bit of sense.
The "potential felony charge" consisted solely of a news writer speculating. They might as well have said potential treason charge or potential Nobel Peace Prize.
every day i lose more respect for people. all these stupid angry people kept blaming the radio hosts for their own stupidity? just... fuck those idiots
"Anyone dumb enough to fall for that should go have their muffler bearings replaced, headlight fluid checked and get the flux capacitor calibrated in their cars," Jimmy Martin said on Facebook.
Floridian dihydrogen monoxide is very dangerous and will kill you. They've been known to cause hallucinations, schizophrenia, short tempered, loss of motor turn signal skills and a severe grey matter reduction and a massive pill addiction. A recent case has reported that a couple who ingested this dihydrogen monoxide actually left their child to be baby sat by an alligator at a pond in Disney world thinking it was the child care facilities. The evidence for this is outstanding as about 50% of news stories contain a Floridian and of those about half are from Jacksonville. The effects from dihydrogen monoxide are almost immediate, as soon as you cross the state line, ultra violet radition for our modern energy resources reacts the crippling dihydrogen monoxide and turns it into gas form and will force choke your ass for a percocet while you proceed to teach a racoon to bow hunt for pythons.
It's crazy that in this day and age where we literally carry devices with access to all of human knowledge in our pockets people are too stupid to do some research on something before freaking out. Especially something they heard on April Fools Day from a radio show that is known for making jokes.
Xvexe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's even more amazing is that people took the time to look up the DoH number before even trying to find out what dihydrogen monoxide is.
Seriously? You don't even want to understand what the potential "contamination" that has been in the water you've been drinking for who knows how long is?
VetProf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"'Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." -Mark Twain.
Frankly, I felt like this quote isn't as accurate on this statement, but eh, it's worth sharing.
Unless you are familiar with chemical naming conventions the only thing "dihydrogen monoxide" or any scary chemical name really will invoke is the image of carbon monoxide or dangerous substances, things we are taught to fear. You can roll your eyes at the "Stupidity" in retrospect if you'd like but if you're going to broadcast something that is blatantly designed to insight panic to people of various education levels, many of whom have families to worry about I don't know what reaction you expect.
I wonder how many people who are angry at this "stupidity" fell for the same prank the first time they heard it.
Wait, you're telling me there are stupid people in Florida?
Eliju ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remember when Adam Corolla had The Man Show and they set up a table at some busy location to get signatures to end women's suffrage? People were signing left and right. People are suckers for a good pitch.
A lot of the times Radio Shows will do something like this on purpose to gain publicity and end up getting "suspended" coincidentally on the week they were all scheduled to have a vacation.
xAyrkai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They should have owned it. Gone all the way to court to argue that their claim wasn't about poor water quality, the claim was that there was H2O in the water. Sue whoever fought them thus far.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:24 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to catch the downvote, but this is totally different. The average person has no knowledge of chemistry, even though they should. Saying this on the radio is going to cause panic. Saying it to a chem class as an "experiment" on a bunch of 8th graders is one thing, causing panic is completely different
Mantano ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:09 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, I used to listen to Val and Scott all the time growing up. Haven't lived in the area in a few years, so I hadnt heard this story.
Man one year they got my mom bad. She called me one morning, frantic, telling me to look up her car and mine, because there had been a vehicle recall (this was around the time of that big Toyota recall).
I looked for 20 minutes and couldnt find a single article outlining what she was talking about. When she got home, she said "look up 'flux capacitor recall', that was the faulty part they mentioned."
Being a BTTF geek, I then realized what day it was and explained to her what a flux capacitor was. It was pretty funny.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It happened on the radio in Atlanta in 2003. A radio host talked about how he heard the water system was contaiminated with this "dangerous chemical". It got picked up by a local news channel that contacted the water management agency about it, and a couple days later a spokesperson put out a press release saying their water system no longer contained the chemical known as dihydrogen monoxide
haha I could MAYBE see this causing a panic before widespread internet, but in 2013, no excuses. It's called Google, bitches. Hell, in high school our chemistry teacher dropped this on us (2000ish), and we figured it out. God damn Florida Man.
it's mass stupidity like this that can end up shaping public policy. it can be much easier for a politician to support a widely accepted stupid idea than to take the time to try to educate people.
[deleted] ยท 843 points ยท Posted at 18:16:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which also has real world parallels. "If I sign will you get off my doorstep?"
RDCAIA ยท 181 points ยท Posted at 19:50:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've done the opposite. I typically start my "shut it down" routine, before I've heard much of what they've had to say.
Brushed off one petition I might have cared to sign..."Do you care about the...". "No, not today."
I also brushed off a politician who was campaigning at the subway stop. Me, "I already know who I'm voting for." Walked a few steps when I realized He was the guy I was already planning to vote for.
One time on her way to work my wife was approached by someone from Greenpeace with a clipboard asking, "Are you a good person?". She just yelled "Nope!" and started laughing as she walked away. She thinks the Greenpeace guy started laughing too.
Sirspen ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:56:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I usually just say "sorry, I don't talk to people with clipboards."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:00:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just ask them if they want to have sex. Either that sends them running, or I get to have sex. Its a win-win.
(I tell a lie. The only bell-ringers where I live is Jehova's Witnesses, and I have placed blood-donor stickers outside, so they do not enter either. But I would definitely use this tactic if it was an issue.)
Well done, going out of your way to make sure no worthy cause gets support. Refusing to involve yourself with any petition is the functional equivalent of not ever voting. No one can make you do it, but you should relinquish your right to bitch and complain about anything as well.
Refusing to involve yourself with any petition is the functional equivalent of not ever voting.
WAT. Not wanting to be accosted by random people with clipboards on the street is not the same as not voting or doing research about candidates on your own.
Firstly, you don't "vote" for a petition on election day. By openly dismissing all petitions brought to your awareness without hearing so much as a word from them, you are abstaining from involvement in any change the petitions could have had the power to bring about.
Basically, you're the reason petitions don't work. But I bet this type of person has no problem bitching about how things should be different.
Okay, so two things. 1) You obviously know everything there is to know about a stranger on the internet from one comment.
2) Your reading comprehension is pretty low, isn't it?
Where did I say that you "vote" for a petition on election day? Spoiler alert: No where.
Lastly, I do read and sign petitions... Just not those thrown in my face on the street. Being interrupted on my walk home from work isn't a time where I can make an educated decision about if I should sign a petition. In fact, I don't sign petitions from strangers on the street because it could be for literally anything (check what OP posted for example). I'll listen to what the name of the petition is and look it up online later if it sounds like something worth looking into.
This right here is the key issue with this form of advocacy, especially when they not only want signatures but money too.
If for example the petition being put to me were for banning dihydrogen monoxide and I had just enough time while standing there enroute to a destination, to hear as much about why we should do that as the classmates of the kid in the article did; then I might well think it should be banned were it not for it being a pretty well known joke. It's not a time and place where I can objectively evaluate the merits of the cause or where I have the resources to adequately research it. Even the cause can be okay while the group is disreputable, that's not going to be obvious if you aren't familiar with them. The reason I like to think that I mostly am not so easily mislead is that I don't make snap decisions about complex issues.
I understand the difficulty from the perspective of the people who do this, after all if they don't interrupt me on the way to work or some other inconvenient moment in the street, odds are I'm not going to go home and heavily research their issue (assuming I'm even aware of it), I'll probably make dinner and try to relax. But by the same token, the chances I'll align myself with their group and their cause on the basis of street petitioning are basically zero. Also, they have a spoiler effect on one another because so many groups do this, even in the same street and many of them aren't even advocating a cause they're just trying to get you to buy a product, by the time that's happened to you more than about 3 times in your life it's enough for you to instantly dismiss all other groups using such methods. I spent time working in London, there was a particular street that everyday involved running a gauntlet of multiple different religious groups, advertisers and political campaigners before you could get through l and they positioned multiple people at different intervals in case one of their associated missed you or you tried to navigate a path around them.
It just won't ever be an effective strategy so long as two things remain true:
I'm expected to make a decision then and there with only materials they provide me for information
There are, or ever have been other groups also soliciting support this same manner that I've encountered before in my lifetime
There is such a thing as petitions that you can read and sign willingly and voluntarily, without having to be accosted.
Furthermore, the only time there's anything wrong with refusing to sign anything is when the person complains when nothing changes. And here you've outright stated "I bet this type of person has no problem bitching about how things should be different." Yeah, shut the fuck up, asshole. I can sign as few petitions as I want. You know why? Because I don't complain about anything I could have signed a petition to prevent. And fuck you for trying to assume everyone else whines like you do.
Azsendi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:17:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's ironic, since you clearly failed to comprehend not one but two posts in a row.
But I imagine that's par for the course for anyone who starts out a post with "ayy lmao".
Azsendi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:44:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, my post was a clearly a shitpost because the guy clearly said that he that he participates by voting for what he thinks is a worthy cause. Oh well, end of story, I was shitposting and that's that. You're probably a troll, but I can't bother myself to check. Have fun and have a nice day.
Either troll or an idiot. dude also didn't read my comment and went on a tangent rant
Azsendi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:) that's why I shitposted on his post.
RDCAIA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:29 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, technically, I'm not going "out of my way". Pretty much the opposite.
You can keep signing your petitions and you can keep getting bitchy and complaint when the petition doesn't change anything.
Unless you're in high school (if we get 2/3 of our student body to sign this petition, the principal will let us eat outside on Thursdays) or local parking regulations (if 75% of the residents on the street sign this petition, they'll put zoned permit parking signs up which will keep the nearby apartment complex from parking here), petitions are not the same as voting.
[deleted] ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 19:23:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I tell people that I don't sign petitions the day I learn about an issue, and usually people take it pretty well - it's not rude to want to research an issue further before taking a stance.
k929 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:23:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
During finals week, this guy was going around trying to get a petition signed. His opening line was, "Hey have you gotten a chance to sign my petition yet?"
I said, "No not yet, what are you petitioning for?"
Mother fucker just walked away to a girl the table over, asked her the same thing, and didn't respond to me. I like your line better since it doesn't imply that I'm not interested, just that I'm trying to understand it better.
But then again sometimes I think it's fair to tell people to fuck off.
Sometimes people are paid to try to get signatures for petitions, so he's probably just going for the shotgun approach (and it probably works reasonably well too).
I did business to business sales for a very short period a while back.
We were taught to ignore no soliciting signs. "Oh no we're not soliciting, we were just taking care of some clients in the area and they recommended we come over and see how much money we could save you!"
One time the guy trying to train me and another new guy had us go into a big office building then rush into an elevator as the guard asked what we were doing there (no soliciting signs everywhere.)
"We have a meeting with a client" he said as he furiously pressed the 'Close Door' button.
Did not make it long in that place at all; never felt like more of a scumbag in my life.
Not sure it matched the exact legal definition of one (I doubt it did) but their whole business model was just a pyramid scheme.
100% commission based and all of it was just salesmen within the group opening new offices under whoever brought them in where every step up in the chain gets commissions from all those below them in the chain.
I was extremely mistaken in thinking I'd be able to make any sort of decent pay without being shady or scummy so I quit after a few weeks of making $0 other than selling some supplies to a family member who already used the supplier but had not yet been through the 'referral' process.
Overall a valuable experience though. I was extremely shy and it really forced me to overcome it to some extent even if I was never brazen enough to ignore the no soliciting signs whenever the trainer wasn't around.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:52:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I went to Paris on holiday a couple of years back, there were these 'nuns' asking for petition signatures, and after you signed they flipped the clipboard round and it said there was a mandatory donation with each signature.
GeeJo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:11:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The odd thing is that I remember the petitions I refused to sign way more than the ones that I did, because of the vague feeling of guilt.
There was one passed around to free Ai Weiwei back when I was in University, for example, but since I didn't know the facts at the time I refused to sign - for all I knew the guy could have been a radical Uyghur terrorist or something.
So I suppose the fact that I ended up learning more about the issue means they ended up succeeding - more than if I'd just blithely put my name on the paper (resulting in nothing), at least.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We should also probably critique his sample size along with his survey methods, but since this reinforces a notion that everyone else but us is stupid about chemistry, we get really excited about it.
He's 14. Most likely what happened was that he was fairly popular and was able to convince his classmates to do it. Word gets spread, "Hey vote for Nathan" and the hivemind does the rest for lulz.
I remember we had a critical thinking writing prompt about this. A lot of people (myself included) in my class made the argument to ban it, and then my teacher went over the facts with us and broke down what "dihydrogen monoxide" was. I felt like such a dumbass.
bearssyy ยท 250 points ยท Posted at 20:27:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for being the one person on Reddit to admit that maybe you are not above the intelligence level of all of these "stupid" people.
jay791 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:37:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's wisdom, not intelligence. It all comes down to knowing that H2O is water, mono means one/single and di means two/double.
I think it's a combination of knowledge, intelligence, and wisdom. Knowledge means you know H2O is water. Intelligence means you can deduce that mono = one and di = two, and that "two-hydrogen one-oxide" = H2O = water. Wisdom means you don't take everything at face value.
jay791 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:20:00 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mistook knowledge & wisdom . Knowledge goes for h2o, mono and di. Intelligence goes for spotting the need to convert dihydrogen monoxide to a more friendly notation. Wisdom - as you said.
I think mono and di could be either knowledge or intelligence. I don't remember being specifically taught what those prefixes mean. I just kind of figured it out over time. But you're probably right that in most cases, they should go under knowledge.
Word problems: I'm kind of having the impression that willful is at least partially included in the meaning of ignorant. Can you really be ignorant without being so willfully?
People always tend to see ignorant as something that you can be blamed for or something immoral. But how can you be blamed for something if you haven't willfully chosen it?
Ignorant just means you don't know something. We are all ignorant on a variety of issues. And we are all ignorant on many things against our will (for lack of a better word). You can't really be blamed for being ignorant on a lot of things.
Willful ignorance is when you're aware of a topic and have an opinion on it but choose to ignore any research or facts that refute your point.
There's nothing wrong with being ignorant if you choose to educate yourself when the topic is brought to your attention. If you're refusing to educate yourself because you're too scared of being wrong then you have a problem.
I see your point. I only use 'willful ignorance' when I explain simple things to certain people (business owners) and they just do not listen. They hear SOMETHING, but not what was actually said. Then they over-react and throw a temper-tantrum because they did not listen.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:23:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah you can be ignorant without being willful. But I see where you're coming from as the word has a pretty negative connotation.
For example, I have absolutely no idea how many grains of sand are in the shore of the nearest lake. I remain completely ignorant of that particular fact. But since A] the issue hasn't come up before B] I've never made any decisions based on the assumed number of grains of sand without bothering to check the actual number C] the actual number is probably not something I can learn given my current resources, I wouldn't say I'm willfully ignorant of that one fact.
(I am, however, willfully ignorant of whether or not anyone's already bothered to measure the number of grains of sand in that lake and then published that information where I can access it. I'm not even bothering to search for it. Frankly I just don't care. And yet, I'm making part of my earlier argument "oh the information probably isn't available to me haha" without bothering to check. Whoops!)
Agreed. That's why I put stupid in quotations. People on this thread are acting like just because these people didn't know what dihydrogen monoxide is they are stupid.
I agree. Nobody is stupid for wanting to ban dihydrogen monoxide. The people who want to ban it are just ignorant of technical chemical language. Ignorance =/= stupid. Everyone is ignorant about something.
[deleted] ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 19:37:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Well, not so much for "believing" someone without any independent critical thinking, because that suggests that they're lying about DHMO, when technically all their facts are true, and the person giving the facts, while they are making a case for DHMO to be banned, they're still not lying. I think it's more like "they are dumb for coming to a conclusion (the conclusion that it should be banned) based on insufficient information."
Okay, well, I guess you could mean "believe that they are serious when they say DHMO should be banned."
They're not really dumb at all. They signed some random petition that they knew had zero real world impact, after what was a pretty good argument against a presumed toxicant. Do you pay complete attention to detail in every class you've ever sat in?
The truth is that the name itself would be enough to make me not like it.
I know what carbon monoxide is, and dihydrogen just sounds so evil. Presented in a similar way to the way this student did, I would be inclined to vote to ban as well.
You and I are NOT dumbasses for simply being unaware what dihydrogen monoxide is any more than the students from the article are. We are human and were mislead.
So what do we learn from this?
Independent research is important before knee-jerk reactions.
We had a class discussion on wether or not it should be banned. This one guy was so adamant on banning it, he yelling in how dangerous it was and how we are all addicted to a horrible chemical. I knew right away when I read "dihydrogen monoxide" (the majority of the arrival just said DHMO, socit could have been anything) I raised my hand and askedb"wait... Isn't that just-" and the teacher cut me off before and told me not to mention it. This was legit one of the most heated debates because it seemed like a very dangerous chemical and I was just there laughing at these guys. Especially because the end of the article literally said "DHMO is water," yet these people were arguing without reading the entire article, which tbh I didn't finish it because I knew what it was before I finished it.
I didn't see it as all that unlikely. The part about the teacher cutting him off actually happened to me once or twice.
Our Algebra teacher was starting the unit on factorials, but not coming right out and saying "we're going to learn about factorials." Instead, he gave us a probability question and asked the class to come up with an answer. While everyone else was making guesses like 24, 48, 64, 100 (et cetera) I gave the answer 40,320.
(All I had to do was type 8! in my calculator.)
As the teacher walks the class through the problem and asks everyone to start eliminating answers that seem the most unlikely, the class gets mad at me for acting like a clown and vetoing my answer of 40,320 from being eliminated.
I'm starting to open my mouth to explain my answer and my teacher cuts me off and gets back to teaching. But before turning back to his smartboard he gives me one of those looks of approval.
It was pretty cool to be the center of attention for the day after the teacher walked the class through to the correct answer, but it's not like I'm actually smart. I left that class with a D.
It just happened that I watch a lot of Numberphile videos.
A similar incident happened earlier/later (I can't remember) with me solving the Monty Hall problem before anyone else.
My point being... It's not unusual to have at least one or two people who happened to stumble across the correct answer on their own before its brought up to a group of people...
Not claiming to be Albert Einstein, just happened to know the answer already.
Atario ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always remember to shame people for using their brains
You other dummies upvoted me but not this guy, he see's what I'm doing. He's not afraid to appear sanctimonious, even if he's missed the point entirely. He sure took me down a peg or two!
Atario ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when they did this in high school chem, one of my first days at a new school.
I saw on the sheet that it was a fire retardant, and for some reason I thought it was the stuff they put in fire extinguishers on boats that I had just seen on my dad's boat. I read the tag like two weeks prior, it was a warning card on the hydrant that said it was hazardous, etc.
I explained I think I knew what this stuff is, it's super bad for you.
Sank down in my chair a bit after the big reveal.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:35:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
They felt dumb, he started blaming the article for being misleading and calling the writer dumb for not saying it was water, which someone pointed out it said it was water at the end of the article (which is how I knew it said it)
I had a class discussion about this as well, and the teacher couldn't cut me off before I realized what DHMO was and ended the debate. She looked frustrated and said, "well, the point of the discussion was that it is easy to be misinformed about science." In hindsight I think that while that's an important lesson, maybe a more important one is that when you don't know what you're talking about, there are probably a few people who do and you should try to find them and get their thoughts rather than follow the clueless masses.
Yeah my teacher did similar, we were all going over it individually before the group discussion and I called the teacher over and asked if it wasn't just water, he just did a "shh" gesture with his finger and walked away. So funny.
I independently realized that water could be described as such (or similarly) when I as in 9th grade, so I was prepared when my snarky English teacher pulled that on the class in 10th. As you might imagine, my paper was very self-congratulatory.
In a way, the experiment is still going on. Most of what you believe doesn't come from you or any research you did. Someone else told you what to believe and you believed it. If you were born somewhere else in a differenet environment, you would be a very different person with very different ideas.
TUSF ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:24:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone else told you what to believe and you believed it
Well yeah. The alternative is spending my entire life verifying the science of the last 2000 years. It's not feasible for everyone to spend their lives verifying the claims of the people before us. I simply choose to accept the explanation given by recognized experts (who themselves accept claims given by experts before them), and if it turns out something they said was wrong, then I guess I'll move on to believing the next best explanation.
I'll do my research on what I can, but even then, I'm assuming the math these people do checks out, and that the theories their science is based off of is accurate. If I choose to trust no one at face-value, I'll be here researching for my entire life.
i had a similar thing in seventh grade. a classmate and i started giving each other looks then went to the teacher together and said "is this water?" and he gave us this evil smile then said we still had to write the paper.
I'm not going to lie I would try to get this banned if I didn't know how to google information. Anything with "acid" in the name automatically sounds deadly
It's probably inside your body right now. Try one of those purge diets. You might have to go pretty hardcore before the deoxyribonucleic acid starts to break down, though.
Just a painless exposure to xrays is sure to destroy this chemical!
JasonDJ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:41:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're telling me. I've got friends who try to cook with acetic acid. I've even seen them put it on salads with concentrated plant lipids, or on French fries with sodium chloride!
We should ban hydrochloric acid. That one is really common in populated areas.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:29:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd think and be like "well i drink alcohol and that's pretty fuckin deadly. How often do i come around this acid?" Then they say something like "every day" and i say "oh well i havent died yet so im probably okay".
koshgeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about carbonic acid or acetic acid? The latter is actually dangerous in high concentrations, but some people like putting it on their french fries in low concentrations.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Acetic acid sounds pretty deadly to the layman, citric less so. Now ascorbic acid is what you really want to watch out for.
amino sounds pretty close to ammunition so I think this should definitely be banned. In fact I'm so anti-gun I'm going to start an online petition to ban amino acids!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Citric acid in your oranges.
Hydrochloric acid in your stomach. Fun fact, the hydrochloric acid in your stomach is 100x stronger than vinegar.
Another fun fact, according to the Bronsted-Lowry theory of acids and bases, which defines acids as being proton donors and bases being proton recipients, water (H2O) can at times be an acid or a base. The same thing with NH4+.
So it wouldn't be so wrong to say that water at certain times acts as an acid.
My dad got worked up about a radio show that claimed that most medications are artificially increasing you salt intake... Which is technically true because they often have hydrochloride salt (HCL).
edit: Apparently sodium salt is the next most common salt after hydrochloride in medication.
Especially when performing this trick, because to people who don't know chemistry well, and are just thinking about the words, "dihydrogen monoxide" is is more immediately obvious to be 2 Hydrogen, 1 Oxygen than "hydrogen hydroxide" since the numbers aren't in the name and you have to break down "hydroxide" into parts to know what it means.
That's really what made it stick to the public's mind. You hear terms like "carbon" and "hydrogen" used in fairly innocuous terms all the time, but the "monoxide" label outside of the chemistry field almost always refers to carbon monoxide, which is a very dangerous substance.
geniice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even in the chemistry field that's about the only thing its used for. Yes there is silicone monoxide and chlorine monoxide (dangerious) but they are less commonly used terms.
Is Carbon Monoxide the only substance that has any sense of stability with a single Oxygen atom? Even in "elemental" form, oxygen binds into O2 (how do I shot subscript on reddit?) molecules.
geniice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. You've got all the ionic stuff (Magnesium oxide and the rest of the group two elements for example). All the organic stuff (ethanol contains one oxygen atom as does acetone). Sulfur monoxide isn't easy to make but it can be done. Nitrogen oxygen chemistry is complicated but straight .NO does exist. There is some flourine chemistry which like a lot of flourine chemistry rather a toxic and best avoided but oxygen difluoride and HFO (Hypofluorous acid) exist.
No. Oxygen can bind with anything as long as it's two unpaired valence become paired. And, water is very stable and only has one oxygen. The periodic table is a good source for figuring out what will bind to what, if you don't want to trust random internet strangers
You don't say monocarbon dioxide, but you could. It's not wrong, it's just not the simplest way to say carbon dioxide. In chemistry there's multiple names for every molecular structure, multiple naming conventions exist and are used in different situations for different reasons. For example, I could cal H2O "Hydroxide Acid" and I wouldn't be wrong. It's a hydroxide ion (HO- ) with an H+ slapped on the side - slapping an H+ on the side of things makes them an acid (this is the Chem 101 explanation, and as I was told in Chem 101 - every other chem course is spent learning exceptions to the rules you learned in Chem 101, so this is by far an oversimplification, and to the post-doc chemistry researcher out there who's about to tear me a new one and push the character limit with a paper on acids, I beg of you please don't).
Dihydrogen Monoxide caught on because of stuff like this kid's science fair, and then other very similar uses of the phrase. And it's starting to wear out, people hear "Dihydrogen Monoxide" and they start figuring out that it's water. Start doing the same thing with "Hydroxide Acid" and the cycle will start over again. Also, bonus: there's ACID IN YOUR TAP WATER! OH NO! You can get all new levels of horror in people. Their kids are eating acid with almost every meal. It's in their juicebox! It's in your swimming pool! It's filling up our oceans! It's in the fucking groundwater!
geniice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because "monoxide" is associated with carbon monoxide which is best avoided.
THere's no single correct name for every compound, rather IUPAC requires each name unambiguously refer to a single compound. dihydrogen monoxide is appropriate for naming a molecular compound; hydrogen hydroxide is the systemic name as an alkali; hydroxic acid, hydric acid, and etc are systemic names as an acid and hydron hydroxide is the polarized form.
Course if you really want, oxidane is probably the best name,or at the very least that's the IUPAC recommendation.
zealoSC ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:14:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's what water is is called if you follow the standard naming conventions for compounds...
geniice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The standard naming convention would give you "water". Otherwise Hydrogen oxide. Compare Hydrogen sulfide.
zealoSC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You never took a chemistry class, did you?
Compare, carbon monoxide
geniice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You never took a chemistry class, did you?
Compare, carbon monoxide
Carbon is group 4 oxygen is group 6 (or 14 and 16 for those that prefer the modern system). For looking at naming conventions its generaly best to look within the same group. So Hydrogen sulfide, Hydrogen selenide and Hydrogen telluride. See the patturn?
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing it's the way people (especially resistors) make themselves feel smart and pompous with only entry level chemistry knowledge...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"dihydrogen monoxide" is is more immediately obvious to be 2 Hydrogen, 1 Oxygen
That's also kinda the point. You make it as apparent as possible without using the most common term. That gives the people you are talking to every opportunity to identify the substance you are describing. By doing this, you highlight just how easy it is to fool someone by using factually correct statements in a misleading manner. When people start hearing all the horrible things the substance can do, they no longer pay attention to what it is, just how much it "needs" to be regulated.
It's both. Theres an H+ ion and an OH- ion, the latter is covalently bound.
This is also why acid + base -> water + a salt. All ionic compounds are one of those 4 things. Salt contains neither H+ or OH- , acid contains H+ , base contains OH- , and water is literally the combination of those two ions. When you combine an acid and a base, those H+ and OH- ions separate from their acid and base compounds and bind to each other to form water. The ions they were once bound to bind together to form a salt... not necessarily NaCl, though that is what you get when combining hydrochloric acid (HCl) and Sodium Hydroxide (NaOH).
True and at a certain point it becomes an arbitrary distinction, but the concentration of ionized water is 1E-14 M which is functionally negligible, I think it's still more accurate to name it as a covalent compound
Yeah, but there is a group that will say that the way that water readily dissociates that proton to form OH- and H+, makes it similar to an ionic situation.
So that makes hydrogen hydroxide better. Of course, it really is debatable. Most chemist prefer the name water to any other name, obviously.
That is a good point, I was thinking about that as well. Technically covalent when water, but it's not particularly strongly bonded when it comes down to it...
JeIIyDM ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:40:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
That is technically correct, but I assume there are more correct names for some compounds.
This implies it is more of an ionic bond between a proton cation and hydroxide anion, which in a normal pH 7 solution isn't the dominant covalent dihydrogen monoxide. That said, the whole ionic covalent thing is a complete gray scale we've made up to simplify our own understanding of chemical electron sharing, aka bonding.
Bekabam ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:29:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I was taught to use the dihydrogen nomenclature.
Yeah they're moving towards removing the mono/di/tri nomenclature from everything. Right now I think its still common to use it for covalently bonded molecules
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The chemistry community I guess? Not sure if there is like a ruling body or not. But what kind of compound are you talking about? Like OH? Cause that's hydroxide.
Yeah phosphorous chloride is ambiguous. I'm not entirely sure why they want to change the naming but I think it may be because it is easier to write in a document "Phosphorous Chloride" and its easier understood within context. If you were actually talking about chemical reactions you would be showing actual chemistry notation such as "PCl3" rather than writing out the reaction in words. So I guess its more of a language thing
Wait why wouldn't Phosphorous (III) Chloride work? I mean, thats actually the name of the compound I didn't just make it up. PCl5 would be Phosphorous (V) Chloride
Zhoom45 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:17:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
As a diatomic acid with only hydrogen and a single electronegative atom, it would be called hydroxic acid, like hydrochloric or hydrosulfic. The first hydro is redundant.
Trehnt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bussin out da bando
Zhoom45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are correct, diatomic was not the right word. I meant that it's only hydrogen and an electron-withdrawing atom. Hydrosulfic acid would be a much better comparison, being another chalcogen.
I've always preferred hydroxic acid myself. It's hard to consider water as an acid, but it's even harder to consider water a salt, as the hydrogen hydroxide name suggests.
source: chemist
zodar ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 18:17:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, they will tell you it's called "water."
[deleted] ยท 204 points ยท Posted at 18:33:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
"It's almost as bad as hydrogen hydroxide. Truly dangerous stuff."
Donny rolled his eyes. "Lisa, you are such an idiot! Do you even know what you're talking about?"
"Of course I do. I graduated college!"
"It was Trump University, and you got scammed."
"Whatever." Lisa sneered at her boyfriend and waved her hand as if shooing him away. "Did you know that you swallow twelve spiders a year while you sleep."
"That isn't true, either. My God, woman, do you actually know anything?"
"Don't talk to me like I'm stupid!"
"If you don't want me to think you're stupid, then you should stop saying stupid things."
"I'm not stupid and I'll prove it to you! Did you know that we only use 10% of our brains?"
"Oh my God," Donny muttered under his breath. "This is the worst first date ever."
She considers Donny her boyfriend on the first date? Red flags everywhere
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:56:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I checked this guy's comment history and it seems that he goes around commenting vaguely coherent passages that consist of stilted dialogue offset with unimaginative description.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:16:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:21:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll admit I laughed, but c'mon now though... why do women always have to be the ignorant/stupid ones in jokes like these? Nobody tells jokes about dumb blonde men either. We actually aren't all idiots. Plenty of us can even science!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:04:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interestingly, my next story/comment will be about a dumb man. (It may be autobiographical.) Stay tuned.
Wargazm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Using chemical nomenclature, various names for water are in common use within the scientific community. Some such names include hydrogen oxide, as well as an alkali name of hydrogen hydroxide, and several acid names such as hydric acid, hydroxic acid, hydroxyl acid, and hydroxilic acid. The term "hydroxyl acid" used in the original text is a non-standard name.
Man, I don't think I'm a full-blown idiot. But I would not have known any of those were water. Being able to deconstruct those names takes some pretty specific knowledge of chemistry.
esr360 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:15:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know, I just assumed it was an ass and didn't question that it was an odd choice of image to use even after reading the title until I came to the comments.
rmxz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That looks like an ass.
One more reason Schools would ban that substance.
It's pornographic.
He's lucky he didn't get suspended for violating their zero-tolerance-for-porn policies.
Forty-three students favored banning DHMO, six were undecided, and only one correctly recognized that 'dihydrogen monoxide' is actually plain old water.
iyaerP ยท 141 points ยท Posted at 19:29:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These things always pissed me off. In my sophmore chemistry class, my partner and I did a MASSIVE electroplating project. Hundreds of electroplatings, measuring of different chemicals, we accidentally discovered several chemical reactions that we hadn't known about when trying differnet chemicals, and even one that caused rapid disintigration of all metals in the plating container as soon as electricity was applied. To all of that, we measured, calculated transfered molar mass, did all sorts of chemical analysis and science. We got second place. First place went to the idiots with the "dihydrogen monoxide is dangerous" bullshit.
838h920 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 20:22:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it a chemistry project?
If yes, you could've just complained. What he did was not chemistry, it was social science.
iyaerP ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:44:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same chemistry class even.
Y0tsuya ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 19:49:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He won first place because his results hit the judges harder than yours. Meaning despite the best efforts of educators, scientific ignorance is still a huge problem among us.
Chemical analysis? Rapid disintegration? Several new chemical reactions? I want to see that!
iyaerP ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:41:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They weren't newly discovered reactions, but they certainly weren't ones that we (students) knew about going in. The disintigration one was scary, we were using I want to say copper as our plating metal and lead as the target, and H2SO4 as our acid, but it was over a decade ago, and I don't remember all the details. We used acids for most of our plating, so that wasn't unusual but for this particular setup, as soon as we activated the electricity on our plating machine, the whole mixture started bubbling and frothing like some kind of witch's cauldron from a cartoon. EVERYTHING melted. The plating material, the target material, the alligator clips holding our two metals, and the plastic that surrounded them, it all dissolved in under a minute. It was crazy freaky and awesome, we never saw the likes of it again, nor did we see similar reactions from any other plating attempts. Like for all the other plating, we'd get a few micrograms worth of material melted and deposited, and that was usually over an hour, sometimes overnight, but for that one test, it was some insane chemical reaction we'd never heard of before went off as soon as we applied the electricity.
Sabot15 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:56:58 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep... it sounds like you were probably smarter than the people judging your project. People like these dumb "projects" because they feel smarter when they walk away. They aren't, but they think they are. They can't wait till they can pull the same one over on one of their not so smart friends.
As a chemist in a specialty chemical company, I can say that it doesn't get any better. Our leadership team has shifted to one which refuses to even try to understand the technology that they sell. The programs with the best story wins over the logical choices. Then, at the end of the year, we don't get our bonuses because we fail to hit business plan.
Working for people who aren't as smart as you can be beyond frustrating.
Even at the graduate school level, the awards for best posters at a conference often seem completely arbitrary. More generally, recognition & success in science aren't really based on the amount of work you do as everyone is working really hard, but instead on the impact of your findings and your skill in presenting them.
It's not bullshit. It's psychology. Just because it's not chemistry doesn't mean it's not science, this kid basically carried out a publish-worthy psychological study on his own.
His research brought new proof of a psychological concept to light, not just new to himself and his peers but new altogether. You just repeated experiments that have already been done before. They won't add anything to the science world. Nobody will make a wiki page about your experiments, they'll make a page about who originally did the same experiments.
Btw I got second place at the fair too, for a bullshit experiment I didn't even do the work for, on how milks of different fat content curdle at different rates. Totally useless. I even showed up late. First place was a friend who built a hovercraft, now that was deserving.
veggiter ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:43:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You might be right, but it wasn't really something he came up with at all. It sounds like this guy really experimented, whereas the dihydrogen monoxide joke first appeared in 1983.
You're right, the joke was definitely around, but he used the joke to prove an actual psychological concept in a way it hadn't been proven before. He contributed new, useful research to the already-existing stockpile on the topic.
The experiments this guy described do sound more rigorous, but if someone's already done it before, it's not really worthy of winning any awards. Not at all trying to take away from the effort it must have taken, especially when it may have been entirely new to him personally.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted for your opinion bro. I don't think it's that unreasonable, even though I disagree with you.
For one, I think the jokes made previously and the people who fell for them were evidence enough to show that people can be fooled by unfamiliar language. It was also well established and applied through the work of propagandists and marketers long before this kid was born.
I also don't think the intended purpose or a worthwhile goal of science fairs is to created studies for publishing or entry into scientific discourse. I think they are to promote learning, creativity, and fun while demonstrating students' newly acquired knowledge. They are also intended to make kids genuinely interested in actual science, which is generally drier and more complex than what you might find in a clickbait article.
But, yeah, I think it's tough to call. Personally I think the DMO project is more interesting and has a greater impact on people, but is that the purpose of a science fair? Should how cool something is (which is the main appeal for me) the best way to judge them? I think that's how you get dumb pop science articles that do more harm than good in informing the public.
I'm also not sure that project really taught the "author" anything new that he couldn't gather from the source material. If his project was based on a survey, how was his methodology and use of statistics? Was it solely based on one question? Couldn't he have elaborated and explored why people answered the way they did?
On the other hand, the project described here sounds like legit experimentation. It taught the authors about the scientific method, more realistic lab work, experimentation in general, the joy of discovery even within contexts that generally seem boring to others, and subsequently (but most importantly) that the originality and quality of your work do not guarantee popularity.
If I was a science teacher I think I would applaud realism over sensationalism and mass appeal. I mean, the project itself is the best argument against it winning.
I also wonder if people would have graded differently if they had known it wasn't purely original work.
Eh, what's a few downvotes. A good conversation is worth it.
Also, you make a really good point. I hadn't looked at it from the teacher's point of view.
I also don't think the intended purpose or a worthwhile goal of science fairs is to created studies for publishing or entry into scientific discourse. I think they are to promote learning, creativity, and fun while demonstrating students' newly acquired knowledge.
I think you've convinced me here. I'd forgotten the actual reason we have science fairs. It's not to produce results, but rather to enrich the minds of students.
iyaerP ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:56 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not to produce results, but rather to enrich the minds of students.
Ironically, it did the exact opposite. The experimental research, actual science and almost 30 pages of results, tables, math and hard work that we produced taking second place to something that ran on pure showmanship convinced me I didn't want to be a scientist. I had wanted to be a scientist since I was young since that was the first part of a long term goal of being an astronaut(typical kid dream, right?), but being snubbed after doing enough work for the science fair that it put my senior project 2 years later to shame poisoned that dream for me. I ended up going into software engineering instead. I just couldn't stand the idea of hard work and effort mattering less than showmanship and charisma in what should have been a contest of pure science.
That's kind of funny but also very sad. If they didn't get wrapped up in the "coolness" of the other project - and they shouldn't have - you would have gotten the reinforcement you needed.
Software engineer is a pretty sweet gig that probably pays better than a lot of others you could have ended up doing though.
Yeah, my guess is that the cool project wins pretty often, but invested teachers should be a bit wiser about it.
Atario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you have a hypothesis? Did you conduct experiments to see whether it was correct?
iyaerP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course. We made hypothesises for each set of experiments and tested them.
Atario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wellโฆ what kind of things were they?
iyaerP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How well certain metals would transfer, what acids were needed to reduce certain materials, our expectations for how how different materials would react with each other. Some, like plating zinc onto copper, worked really well, and came away looking almost professional. Others, like trying to plate lead or iron resulted in fuzzy growths on the target metal.
I get your gripe, but boy it's been a long time. I assume it was a school-wide science fair, no?
Plus, as much as the joke was around for over a decade before this, it how everything was carried out from a scientific perspective that got the win. Call it a mix of psychology and epidemiology...more psychology than anything else.
The fact that he pulled it of goes to show that simple concept of calling water by the name of it's chemical compound was something folks simply didn't understand science. Forget about your awesome electroplating project (I did something similar way back in in high school over a decade a go, so I get how awesome it is), people simply don't understand WTF water is! How ridiculous is that?
Think about it: if people don't understand the chemical compound name for water, they won't get the science behind the electroplating. They'll see it as something that looks cool and nod and smile at the science.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:01:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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iyaerP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, we were doing molar mass calculations for metal transfer, chemical breakdowns of metals and how they'd react with each other. That is some legit chemistry. Comparing that to a stupid fucking social experiment, it is clear that one is real science and the other is sensationalism.
twinb27 ยท 214 points ยท Posted at 18:14:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dihydrogen monoxide is used as a coolant in many nuclear reactors, and yet it has contaminated literally all lakes, rivers, and oceans on the planet.
Whenever I make this joke, I'm always extra careful not to use any words which carry a negative connotation in and of themselves or anything that would be technically false. So saying that bodies of water are "contaminated" with dihydrogen monoxide (water) is being a bit deceptive intentionally, whereas saying dihydrogen monoxide is found in every lake and river within a 25 mile radius of every nuclear reactor on the planet is factually accurate but still sounds just as "scary".
[deleted] ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 18:43:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Accidental inhalation of dihydrogen monoxide can lead to unconsciousness and death!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:21:09 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rocket fuel???
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:08:54 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't say the most advanced rocket engines work on hydrolox, but besides that, liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen are way different than water. You don't just load up a rocket full of water and burn it.
838h920 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even your own body is contaminated! There were some tries to cure the people from said contamination, but all tries ended in failure and eventually death of the patient!
1Down ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wanted to make a "would you like some pancake with your syrup" style joke here but then I realized it wouldn't be funny because it would accurately describe the situation.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:02:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1.
a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.
Mixels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Needs more color.
Dihydrogen monoxide has been used as a coolant in nuclear power plants since the 1950s and has contaminated nearly all lakes, rivers, and oceans on the planet. Consumption of this contaminant in even relatively small quantities has been proven to cause injury and death. Wells across town are filled from underground flows originating from the lake, which is fed by the river. What's in your faucet?
and yet it has contaminated literally all lakes, rivers, and oceans on the planet.
Avoid this one. Don't make it sound common. If it's everywhere, in every lake and ocean, it probably isn't super harmful.
[deleted] ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 18:28:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of when The Man Show got a bunch of women to sign a petition to end women's suffrage. I copied them in high school and got a Saturday detention (fair enough imo, no suspension or anything, parents laughed about it).
KimH2 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:59:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What was the detention for? "You made your classmates look stupid"
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:06:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Offensive premise"
MattcVI ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The bit would be a lot funnier if Adam Carolla didn't firmly believe that women are inferior to men in every possible way.
Poking fun at people loses its charm for me when there is a serious, hostile agenda behind it.
HawkEy3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any students sign it?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:27:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We set up shop at lunchtime and got almost a hundred signatures before a teacher came over. Literally nobody asked what suffrage was, I guess they just inferred that suffrage = suffering.
To be fair, "suffrage" is a stupid word because it is easily confused with suffering.
Just like the word "inflammable."
The opposite of insecure is secure.
The opposite of incorrect is correct.
The opposite of incompatible is compatible.
The list goes on...
So then can you really blame someone for thinking the opposite of "inflammable" is "flammable", and that if something says it's "inflammable" then it means it can't be set on fire?
HawkEy3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, I have to admit I did too and had to look up the word.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:32:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget the still common knowledge condemnation of MSG and cholesterol. It has recently been proven that MSG isn't really detrimental to your health in reasonable quantities and cholesterol is actually necessary in one's diet and actually has a lot of health benefits.
lw9k ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:26:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was never even proven that MSG was bad... It was just some quack doctors anecdote after eating bad Chinese food.
My cousin is so proud of being pro vaccine, but he refuses to take generic drugs. Says they don't work as well and are fake.
I think he confused them with Mexican knockoffs, but no one can convince him otherwise and my aunt pays a butt load more for his prescription, because insurance only covers the generic.
There is a grain of truth to the generic thing. Some genetics use buffer compounds that behave differently than the brand. Some people have a different metabolism ama don't process those add well as the name brand. Also works the other way. Sometimes the generic work better for people who don't tolerate other ingredients in the name brand well.
There is also an allowable difference in the amount of active ingredient between brands and their generic equivalents. For most medications, this is minor enough that your doctor won't care which one you take. For some, like anticonvulsants, this small difference is enough to affect the dosage.
swiftb3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I almost aways choose generic, but I did once see a generic ibuprofen brand that said "up to 200 mg" on the bottle. Sounded a little suspicious to me.
I'm going to agree with you on all points except I don't think environmental extremism is plaguing america unless you mean that around half of the US thinks that maybe we should possibly some day look into doing something about climate change now that there is overwhelming evidence it is occurring, damaging crops, affecting ecosystems and destroying entire islands.
The problem with this dihydrogen monoxide joke is a lot of republican types use it to say we don't need to care for the environment at all because "see it is just silly stupid people afraid of water". No, there really are harmful things in the world of chemistry believe it or not.
Environmental protection is one thing, but environmental extremism is in reference to those who let their concern for the environment significantly affect their lives to the point of them looking down on and shaming others, and so on.
I'm all for helping the environment in general though. Anything we can do to me more efficient helps our way of life in the long run.
You'll be waiting awhile. Of course there are the small-scale crazies like there are for anything, but there is no anti-scientific environmental movement of any size. It's a Bush-era farce, part of the same set of lies that made people abandon "global warming" despite it being perfectly descriptive.
GMO's quite literally allows us to eat. Because we modify the genetics of plants, we can make them resistant to plant disease, make them better in cold/warm climates, and allow them to generate more of the stuff we eat. Without GMO's we would have much less food
Andrikas ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 20:59:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah and that's an absolute truth. It's all 100% good without any kind of side (health or environmental) effects ever neverneverever.
I mean, nothing is 100% good; water will kill you if you have too much. GMO's are one of humanities greatest achievements, because we can now make food in previously ungrowable land.
And what environmental tragedies have occurred directly because of GMO's?
And this leads to farmers force to buy improved GMO seeds each year because old version become less effective against weeds, bugs and diseases. So after a few cycles, the farmers depend on these big GMO companies. The top 5 GMO companies control more than 90% of the market.
I would respectfully contend that its major scale monoculture that impacts biodiversity, GMOs are simply a tool in that arsenal. I don't see how GMOs are any more of a threat to biodiversity than other methods of artificial selection. Honestly, correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm definitely not an expert in agriculture because my only knowledge is from O Levels human geography.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:39:17 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's because of an AMA awhile back where the person doing the AMA convinced half of reddit that there's no difference between selective breeding and any other form of genetic modification, and that there couldn't possibly be any negative consequences, dietary or otherwise, from any form of genetic modification. I'm not saying modern GMO's cause cancer or anything, but you can't possibly argue that growing large amounts of genetically modified crops outdoors won't have any impact on larger ecosystems.
I think is because in many places, the entire area use the exact same GMO crop due to monopoly that there is almost no diversity and a single disease can wipe out everything. GMO per se is not bad, but in today world, monopoly of the crop is one of the many problems.
And this leads to farmers force to buy improved GMO seeds each year because old version become less effective against weeds, bugs and diseases. So after a few cycles, the farmers depend on these big GMO companies. The top 5 GMO companies control more than 90% of the market.
Genetically modifying organisms is something humans have done for a long time. Things like hybridization is just a very primitive form of genetic modification. The technology that allows us to edit genes with such precision is vastly more controllable and cost efficient than wasting time mixing and matching organisms, hoping that the traits we desire appear in a timespan worth a fuck. Its something that could help us reduce waste and resources that could be put to better uses by making nature itself more efficient, something humans have done for a long time.
While people should never be condemned for questioning conventional wisdom, the anti-GMO movement trades on the general public's ignorance of such methods. It's also worth noting that the organic industry also benefits from this ignorance and has a vested interest in making sure GMOs do not disturb their industry.
This example of Dihydrogen Monoxide is an example of that. Look at the comments and some of the ways this 'dangerous molecule' can be spun simply by trading off people's ignorance of science.
truantt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weeeell it's not all bad, I suppose. As a legit gluten-free bastard of many years: ignorance is bliss.
t80088 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:00 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The gluten free diet trend is a double edged sword in terms of benefits to people who actually have celiac's disease. A close family member of mine is a celiac and although they now have many more options, a lot of the time "gluten free" products actually contain gluten.
swiftb3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:33 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a lot of the time "gluten free" products actually contain gluten.
Well that sucks. The one reason I don't complain too much about the fad is because I figured it was beneficial for actual celiacs.
t80088 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Typically its not the actual products but instead things in restaurants, I.E the waiter says its gluten free when they don't even switch the surface they use for making gluten and non-gluten products. Typically he has to learn what is actually gluten free by trial and error, (although there are some online resources that are useful but also not 100% reliable). Although I think overall its been sort of a net positive because at least now he actually has options, and the whole fad did help to bring awareness to the issue.
HumSol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:09 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, is it really what you think it is? I'm not anti-vax, but vaccination support is incredibly inflated with BS. The hive-mind supporters are honestly just as bad as anti-vax. They fear monger, plead for emotional appeal, and practice loose logic. Being unvaccinated (me, my wife, and children are all vaccinated) isn't nearly as much of a danger as they make it out to be. The deaths involved are insignificant in comparison to many other events in life that cause death, such as car accidents, lightning, construction, animal attacks, etc. This is even with taking the herd into account. General hygiene, which make huge improvements in the early 1900's, is a great way to fend off disease, bacteria, and viruses alone. Vaccines just give that extra support.
Anti-GMO isn't about the dangers of the food themselves, despite what the health nuts claim. The reality isn't about the harm it presents to the person, but the environment and plant species itself. It's a dangerous game, and we're playing with science we pretend to understand. If we really understood what we were doing, drugs wouldn't have the laundry list of side effects you read on your label, and recalls wouldn't occur. If you believe that one day we could invent perfect medicine, you must concede that implies we currently have an imperfect understanding of chemicals and their reactions to biological matter, as well as a youthful understanding of genetics. What will be think of science 200 years from now looking back?
Environmental Extremism? You'll have to elaborate. That can be quite a varied definition depending on who you ask.
Scyer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:43:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That website is actually an oooooold trick for college students in the early net days. It has most of what would be considered a "Good source" back then. Primarily to teach that you can't believe everything just because it LOOKS legit.
It's got some javascript code likely auto updating that date.
Edit: Of course by today's net design it's horribly obvious >>
I had a teacher show us this website in high school as part of media studies.
All of us were thinking, "What the hell? Why isn't this banned?" And then he told us to google what dihydrogen monoxide was. Honestly it is one of my most memorable classes! Thanks for linking.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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it's a fact that isn't false. Check this out There is a relatively accepted definition, i think it's primarily used in math and science, for facts that just classify them as anything that can be proven or disproven.
aazav ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My fourth grade teacher tricked us with the Dihydrogen Monoxide bit. He had it in one of those little tubes that film used to come in and he was telling us how dangerous it was. Then he knocked it back and presumably enjoyed the look on our stupid little faces. He quickly told us it was water. Probably one of my favorite teachers.
This reminds me of the GMO labelling debate when you hear the comment "but it's just stating facts. Why are you against stating facts?" from organisations who have very openly stated they are using labelling to ban GMOs.
This comment contains words known to the state of California to describe cancer.
Funny, I didn't see the word "feminism" in that comment.
helpnxt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tbf I like the statement from the head of a UK supermarket on GMOs (can't remember exact words) it essentially said people won't care if it contains GMOs or not, as long as they are cheaper
Except here in the UK after GMO labelling came in, supermarkets were tripping over themselves to declare how GMO-free their own-brand foods were because the public panicked about it so much.
Lately I've been tempted to make fake information images just to see how many people share them on social media. Like talking about how there are less than 300 Mississippi river dolphins left because of pollution, or something.
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:27:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you decide to do this please save my username and message me with the results! I would be interested to see.
Lol, I probably won't end up doing it (it's kind of mean, people generally don't like it when you make them look stupid...) but if I do, I'll be sure to message ya, ha ha.
Yup, it has hops. Part of the Cannabaceae family. Same as the marijuana. You better not get caught or you'r going to federal pound me in the ass prison.
I'm reminded of the California ban on wait staff giving refills of glasses of water without specifically being asked by the customer. Meanwhile, that half-eaten hamburger dumped into the trash at the end of the meal took hundreds of gallons of water to produce.
You are right but he used the scientific term, these were 14 year olds. If would have used the term water he wouldn't have gotten the same result. I get that was part of the point.
It is manipulative, which is the point. The point was not to be like look how stupid people are they voted to ban water, it's look how using a relatively unknown term for a common substance can be used to get the result you want.
I guess this situation is a little different, but it seems very similar to cases where people are anti-chemicals because of a chemicals name without actually knowing anything about it.
The fear of chemicals themselves. Which is ridiculous.
And also how powerful group think and manufactured outrage can be. Everybody else seems to think X is bad, therefore X must be bad. It bothers me that people behave this way without taking a moment to stop and ask why X is bad.
This would have worked with a lot of adults though, the scientific name is not commonly used. Many if asked about water's scientific term will at most say H2O.
It was imo, a good project to show how even with the truth, you can twist it to get the intended results, not that it's specifically about water, but about facts being able to be used for whatever you want, and it can be detrimental.
Yeah, those stupid junior high schoolers. How dare 14 year olds not have a sold grasp of chemical names.
I mean he made a valid point, but I don't really fault the students who fell for it. I wouldn't really fault adults for initially falling for it, either. There's nothing wrong with not being able to immediately identify distortions of scientific fact. The problem comes when people don't recognize that such distortions are a possibility and aren't willing to listen to others point them out.
The problem is people acting on information they don't even understand.
If you don't understand what someone has said to you, you shouldn't be making decisions based on what they said.
Like if someone tells me "don't eat anymore food because your food has helephandus contamination" I'll probably find out what 'helephandus contamination' is before I decide that A. my food even has it B. I will stop eating food
It doesn't make you stupid to be told something you don't understand. It does make you stupid to act on something you don't understand.
We are the idiots who would vote to ban water. That's the point he was making and, in my opinion, is much more poignant when you ignore that he was pitching to other kids and consider analogues in the adult world. The DHMO ban is essentially the PATRIOT Act (and a million other pieces of fear-fueled legislation) that Americans have ignorantly supported for decades.
Miknarf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not neither?
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:58:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not discriminate between conscionable modes of reasoning and politically motivated usury.
FTFY
Munkles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty discriminatory to water.
The problem with the uninformed and easily manipulated is that emotional appeals win the argument regardless of merit and wind up preventing serious discussion.
I disagree.. we should in no way be celebrating debilitating stupidity.
learath ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:04:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, well, unfortunately for us we are in the vanishing minority.
Jorhiru ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But that's not what this proves even remotely... All it proves is that most people don't have a background in Chemistry, and trusted the person deliberately using obscure terminology.
"this" literally IS people voting to ban water because someone told them to.. which is stupid. I'm not sure how you think something that happens doesn't prove itself.
Jorhiru ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:38:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you being obtuse? Do you know what literally means? Because here, what he literally asked them to do was ban dihydrogen monoxide. Just because that's a term for water doesn't change what he was asking them, and that's significant. Had he literally asked everyone to ban water, then there wouldn't be a story here, would there?
And those classmates literally voted to ban water.
This is because dihydrogen monoxide is literally water.
Jorhiru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, so you're not being obtuse, you just have a hard time grasping relatively simple concepts. I could ask whether or not you've ever ingested methylcarbinol, and if you are like most people who do not have a chemistry background, you would have to go look it up - not because you're stupid (maybe), but because it's a term not familiar to you. Just because that refers to alcohol does not make it what I asked you. What I LITERALLY asked you was "Do you drink methylcarbinol?"
which is also literally asking me if I drink any other synonyms of methylcarbinol. This is because of what synonyms are.
Either way, if you ask someone anything, and they answer without bothering to find out what they are answering.. they are not a smart person.
For example, if you asked me if I drink "sadl;fha;l" I would ask what "sadl;fha;l" was before answering the question.
Jorhiru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough, but 14 year olds in a science fair are not voting adults. And when you're talking to voting adults about anything, one should use language that is clear and generally understood, and not deliberately select language or terminology that is obscure or unknown -unless one seeks to mislead. Trust me, the idiocy of the public is well known to me, but this sort of thing proves nothing and certainly helps nothing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. If somebody asks you to ban something, and you haven't done your own research to find out what it is and what its potential dangers are, then you shouldn't sign their petition. Think for a second before you act.
I'm still not convinced that his entire presidential run isn't for some sick reality show. Just waiting for the "haha gotcha! just kidding!" punch line.
According to someone who was supposedly on his campaign, he realistically expected to get 2nd place and now he is way out of his league and just winging it.
I truly believe Trump and Hillary are still friends Trump owes Hillary a solid from way back when and he's just making good on his word. He's probably a pretty stand up guy when it comes to his friends.
Atario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you should actually read it. He presented facts that, when taken out of context, sound horrible. Such as, the chemical is responsible for a ton of deaths. Sounds awful until you realize it just means people drowned.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:01:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't quiz them on the chemical name for water, he convinced them to vote to ban a substance that is essential for life.
Because asking for the name of water is like asking someone what 2+2 is. Its such a basic fact that everyone should know that by asking people to ban it, you are showing how bad the school system is and capitalizing on people's fears of chemicals brought upon by the media pouncing on every chance to exaggerate "X chemicals is dangerous, does it cause cancer, Fact or Fiction? Turn in at 7 to find out".
Its preying on people's ignorance and good intentions to show how bad the American school system is.
jago81 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:15:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait...are you saying this kid was wrong for doing this? He was proving a point, not harming anyone. Jesus, why does someone ALWAYS have to bring in politics.
Reive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:30 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I miss that show.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:41:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, this was before the internet fit in your pocket.
If someone came up to me when I was 14 and told me about Dihydrogen Monoxide, I'd probably go along with it too. Most kids that age don't know shit about it. If anything, they'd know that Monoxide is bad from Carbon Monoxide and make a connection that way.
It just shows that people put too much faith in what they read and hear. This stems from a generic lack of skeptical analysts and from a blind trust in the researcher.
It just shows that people put too much faith in what they read and hear. This stems from a generic lack of skeptical analysts and from a blind trust in the researcher.
I think it's impossible not to put blind trust and faith in order to function in modern society. I don't know how the traffic light, elevator, bridges, etc. work. But I put blind trust that they'll work properly in my day-to-day existence.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel that's a little different than someone telling you a piece of information.
Really? I don't have the time nor energy to verify every bit of information bombarded at me. Especially when most of the time it'll be correct and if it's wrong, it has a minimal impact on my life anyway.
For example, let's take something as important as climate change. That's a big fucking deal. But I don't have the expertise or time to understand every aspect of it. And when the most significant effects won't matter for a hundred years, frankly, I have too many other things to worry about. Like getting into a good college, etc.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Calm down broski. I was just making an observation.
The kid in OPs topic was awarded for showing that people lack general research capabilities and often put a trust in the researcher that they did their jobs properly. Which is a far more interesting observation than totally tricking some kids into hating water lulz.
Things come off sounding different in writing. I didn't mean to sound that offended or anything. Sorry if it seemed that way.
The kid came up with an ingenious way to demonstrate that people become gullible with respect to science. My only point is that with so much reliance on science & technology in the modern world, that's a natural thing to do.
It reminds me of the brain teaser where adults can't find the mistake of two consecutive "the"'s in a sentence while 5 y.o.'s find it easily.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it might just be in my nature to be inquisitive. I have a habit of looking at all the angles and I have a pretty decent BS detector. It is hard to explain.
Certain things just make me go, no way that doesn't sound right.
You would drive across a bridge built by a random homeless person? Bridges are not built on faith. They are built by people with a proven knowledge of thousands of years of research and testing, standards, requirements, and the help of many engineers. Also if the traffic light or elevators did not work most of the time I doubt you would trust them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A bridge built by a random homeless person normally wouldn't even look the same as those by professionals. But a stable-looking bridge where I don't know who made it? Yes. And yes, I wouldn't trust traffic lights or elevators if they wouldn't work regularly, but that's not the important point - if a researcher says I can use an elevator safely on my very first time, I'm going to trust him and I'd continue to do that until I'd made the experience that no, this elevator doesn't work at all or I've heard enough people refute this claim. It's the same stuff people believe about their food: potatoes have the most vitamins beneath their peel (?), MSG is unhealthy, carbohydrates is what's making you fat. Or 9 gulps of water help against hiccups. It's more like common sense than scientific facts, but people believe it nonetheless.
They are built by people with a proven knowledge of thousands of years of research and testing, standards, requirements, and the help of many engineers.
Do you have personal knowledge of this? And by personal knowledge, I mean direct, first-hand knowledge. You saw the research. You witnessed the testing. You saw the engineers attend these schools. Or are you relying on others telling you the truth about the research, testing, blah, blah, blah? Like how the classmates of the 14 y.o. boy relied on him telling them the truth.
I need the Internet to learn about basic chemistry?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:19:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The basic idea is that whenever you don't know something, you look it up. Pre-internet if you wanted to learn about something you had to really research it. Like go down to the library and research it.
Now it is a google search away.
As an example, do you know off hand what the chemical formula for sulfuric acid is?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always remember it by a rhyme I learned long ago in a junior high science class...
"Johnny was a little boy
But Johnny is no more
For what he thought was H2O
Was H2SO4"
(That's how I remember the teacher reciting it, but googling shows several variations.)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went down to my local library picked up a book I cheated though I had to ask the librarian where to look because fuck this Dewey decimal system. But there you go.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The real problem I think is that they were willing to ban something they knew nothing about.
This too but they also trusted the researcher had their best interest in mind as well.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:54:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got in trouble for an april fools joke at the office where i posted signs by the water coolers saying: Warning: This water has high levels of hydrogen.
Zanxor0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can have dissolved hydrogen gas in water.
AOEUD ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:50:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alternate title:
"If you aim to be misleading, you will mislead people."
Which is important to the whole point he set out to make: that you can be misleading without ever telling an untruth.
AOEUD ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:17:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Using Google Scholar to look up "dihydrogen monoxide", there are only 475 results and the first two results are using the word to confuse people. Everyone, chemists included, calls it "water".
Speak gibberish and you will be misunderstood. That's not worth first prize in a science fair.
It's a very good GMO labeling analog, really. You can intend to and successfully communicate many things that are untrue, solely by making true statements.
AOEUD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The use of the word "dihydrogen monoxide" is almost exclusively reserved for non-technical use to confuse people. In scientific parlance it's almost always referred to as "water".
Using Google Scholar to look up "dihydrogen monoxide", there are only 475 results and the first two results are using the word to confuse people.
Speak gibberish and you will be misunderstood. That's not worth first prize in a science fair.
Here it is used to be confusing, but it wasn't a word that was just made to create confusion. It's IUPAC nomenclature, giving a way to name H2O not just as H two O.
This is like saying no project deserves a prize at the high school level because we already know the results of the project, and it's not new, groundbreaking research.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:37:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a Facebook friend post a link to an "Anti Dihydrogen Monoxide" Group asking for signatures to ban it's use in juice. She urged all her friends to get "educated" on the issue because as parents we had to protect our children. I told her she had stumbled across a spoof group, and tried to explain, even using the Wikipedia links, and other sources. She blocked me, but only after suggesting I had drank the "kool-aid", and that I was the one in the dark.
AWOL768 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:13:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From DHMO.org...
Research conducted by award-winning U.S. scientist Nathan Zohner concluded that roughly 86 percent of the population supports a ban on dihydrogen monoxide. Although his results are preliminary, Zohner believes people need to pay closer attention to the information presented to them regarding Dihydrogen Monoxide. He adds that if more people knew the truth about DHMO then studies like the one he conducted would not be necessary.
More completely true statements that will lead you to the wrong conclusion if you don't understand.
bdeee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:09:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thumbnail looks like big booty pouring out of red thong underwear. At a 45 degree angle I guess.
Whenever people talk about this, they inevitably miss the real point of it. All they do is circlejerk about how stupid and gullible people are. The real takeaway should be that facts, even true ones, can be manipulated if you use clever language. That's the most important thing that people miss in modern politics. Very rarely is anyone "lying" outright. There's always some subtle linguistic sleight of hand.
In any case. It should be a lesson to us all that you could be fooled too.
Can relate a lot to this in regards to the UK and the way people are going to vote tomorrow.
keepa78 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:57:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a college professor and I do a similar activity with my students. When we talk about evaluating websites for content and accuracy, I give them several sites including dhmo.org which is all about the "dihydrogen monoxide crisis". Only one of the websites I give my students is not a hoax, and I can't tell you how many of them pick this one. I always have to gently break it to them that the site is a great hoax, but it's about water. And these are adults who presumably graduated from high school and took chemistry!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:37:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hello ... im new to reddit... i am surprised how well spoken the comments are here... more patience and seems that its worth arguing with someone and listening to their opinion. Thank you ...
I use a product at work that is diluted with water,tired of coworkers taking my bottle instead of refilling their own,I wrote Contains Dihydrogen Monoxide on it in big bold letters.It's fun watching people get 3 steps while reading it and immediately put it back.
Seakawn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:13:13 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is great. I live with a family right now via AirBNB and one of the kids is a 14 year old freshman. I'll occasionally watch movies or shows or play video games with him, and try to challenge his intelligence every now and then and test his maturity since he's come to somewhat look up to me.
But I don't think he'd even begin to even realize the significance of something like this. And he's not dumb, either. Much less be the one to realize it and test it for a project. I should bring this up to him and see if he even understands why this is such an awesome insight for a kid his age to grasp.
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:15:25 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If we taught people how to reason instead of how to memorize and regurgitate, it would be harder to trick people this way. Unfortunately, most politicians, religious leaders, and advertisers prefer that we don't have those lessons.
ryusage ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:32:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If we taught people how to reason
Honestly I don't see how knowing "how to reason" will help you here. It's reasonable to assume there are lots of dangerous chemicals out there that you're unfamiliar with. I guess you might argue that reason should tell you that the dangers people attribute to "Dihydrogen Monoxide" are so extreme as to be unrealistic. But it's also reasonable to assume there are relatively common things that cause widespread harm even if you yourself have never seen it.
Ironically, having memorized the elements and roots used in chemical names and what they mean is the main thing that would tip you off to this prank.
Ironically, having memorized the elements and roots used in chemical names and what they mean is the main thing that would tip you off to this prank.
Which kind of proves his point. If he'd been taught how to reason, he wouldn't have made that mistake.
geniice ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 18:16:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. The reasoning is pretty sound. The standard monoxide a non chemist will know about is carbon monoxide. Thus thinking monxides are bad is not unreasonable (sure in practice you are never going to run across most of the other things that are refered to as monoxides but not messing with Dichloride monoxide is a definite survival trait).
For your average person being worried about things with ah chemically names is again not unreasonable. Due to historic naming conventions a lot of the things primarily known by chemically names are things the average person shouldn't be messing with.
Literally everything in our world has a "chemically name." This is 7th grade level chemistry.
geniice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally everything in our world has a "chemically name."
Helium, neon and good luck feeding a diamond of any size into a chemical name generator.
That there is a nominal chemical name for something doesn't mean that anyone even chemists in a chemical enviroment actualy use it (So glucose rather than (2R,3S,4R,5R)-2,3,4,5,6-Pentahydroxyhexanal).
Uh, no its not. Whatever the substance, the first thing that comes to mind to a reasonable person should be "ok, why should be ban it?" and similar questions.
geniice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:00 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Zohner gave a list of reasons. Sure the reasons were equaly missleading but they were there.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:59:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And yet they didn't bother checking Wikipedia or any other sources before mindlessly signing something that could hypothetically have big negative effects on society...
geniice ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:10:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wikipedia in 1997? Wikipedia was created in 2000.
What does an angel spreading its wings drawn in black on a yellow background mean?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:12:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah, I missed the title. Still, there were encyclopedias back then, just not in digital form. Or you could ask somebody who's educated.
I don't know. Just googled it, can't seem to find anything about it. What's your point?
geniice ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:22:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I missed the title. Still, there were encyclopedias back then, just in text form.
Wouldn't help you since they aren't going to talk about a miss-naming of water
Or you could ask somebody who's educated.
Outside of chemists why would anyone be educated in the IUPAC nomenclature of inorganic chemistry?
I don't know. Just googled it, can't seem to find anything about it. What's your point?
That as soon as I shift the terms being used you can't recognise the radiation warning trefoil.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:28:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't help you since they aren't going to talk about a miss-naming of water
Fair enough.
Outside of chemists why would anyone be educated in the IUPAC nomenclature of inorganic chemistry?
Not many people, which is exactly why I'd ask a chemist before potentially signing. That's my entire point. Do your research.
That as soon as I shift the terms being used you can't recognise the radiation warning trefoil.
If this were somehow an important issue, I probably wouldn't have let a ten-second Google search decide what I should think about it...
geniice ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:44:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not many people, which is exactly why I'd ask a chemist before potentially signing. That's my entire point. Do your research.
How many chemists do you know? Sure I know quite a few because well I tend to run into other chemists. The general population?
If this were somehow an important issue, I probably wouldn't have let a ten-second Google search decide what I should think about it...
Should you open this metal box with the symbol on it? The wrong answer killed three people in the Samut Prakan radiation accident.
Lets face it as soon as I made the question hard to google you gave up on the who research thing.
Seriously? Look up how many people are pissed about the new way they are teaching math. It's hilarious how angry people get about how teachers are trying to show critical thinking in schools now.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most people aren't smart enough to reason. They need propaganda.
The problem is that smart people know this and so create the most efficient propaganda which is emotionally based. Fear, empathy, terror, hope, nastolgia.
Once you are infected with emotion the first casualty is reason. And of course as we are seeing civil society is the second casualty.
I've always wondered if "dihydrogen monoxide" would be the true chemical name. I'm not a chemist so I don't know the molecule naming rules but it doesn't seem correct. For example hydrogen peroxide is H2O2 (can't do subscript in the markdown) and isn't called dihydrogen dioxide. I guess following those rules water would be called hydrogen oxide.
Someone else replied that the IUPAC name for water is oxidane.
geniice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The chemical name is water.
The logical things to look at if you did want a systematic name are what we call the things down the periodic table. H2S is Hydrogen Sulfide, H2Se is Hydrogen Selenide (and unreasonably toxic) and H2Te is Hydrogen Telluride.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a chemistry grad student. Water has just been "water" for a very long time. I'm not sure what it would be called. Hydrogen hydroxide maybe? There really is no good way to name it chemically.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:36 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently you're right. "Ane" makes me think of an alkane, like hexane or octane.
TAW1892 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Peroxide is just a functional group of an oxygen bonded to another oxygen. Dinitrogen monoxide is technically correct, but the IUPAC name for water is Oxidane.
Just goes to show how dumbed down the general population is. I'm miserable at chemistry and even I understand that dihydrogenmonoxide means two parts hydrogen one part oxygen, in other words H2O.
On another note, why do I feel like watching Baywatch all of the sudden?
Dihydrogen monoxide dissolves more substances than any other liquid, promotes corrosion and is used as a combustion inhibitor in many industrial, commercial and residential applications.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see what you did there.
sips water
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makes you wonder about the climate change alarmists.
kawklee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:47:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
My dad told me this story when I was a kid. I got DiHydrogen Monoxide banned at a big Model UN conference.
I'm in a mock legislature program for high schoolers, and I wrote a bill banning dihydrogen monoxide last year. It passed through committee unanimously, but failed in the House by only three votes. Pretty good, considering these were people who were all there to research and make informed decisions on government.
(I always thought that quote was a lot smarter than people give it credit for; it's incredibly easy to mislead people using accurate facts if you present them in an unbalanced or biased manner. For instance, almost anyone will look like a monster if you list only the most terrible things about them, or a saint if you only list the best.)
Reminds me of the examples of guys making a fake petition to end women's suffrage. Enough women in these vids signing it without a clue.
Makes me wish we encouraged folks to acknowledge when they don't know something and ask.
Heard something similar recently - a poll whether or not DNA should be allowed in the food we eat. The results was a resounding "no".
xyz66 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:11:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did a persuasive speech on Dihydrogen Monoxide in college. Got all of the class to agree, and the teacher later pulled me aside and asked me how I found out about it, that she'd never even heard of it.
Since we had to cite sources, I cited the CDC's page for drowning and it's statistics. I also made up stuff, like saying that it's used in pools to maintain chemical balance and an additive in most soft drinks.
I have milked this for my entire educational career. Got 3rd place in my grade 6 speech competition talking about this, and did a University level presentation on it as well. Thanks Nathan.
I've never liked the moniker "Dihydrogen Monoxide". In other molecules, the H2 is referred without the prefix, like Hydrogen Sulfate (H2SO4), etc etc. Putting the "Di" prefix just sounds dumb.
Ah the old non sequitor. %100 of people who consumed Dihydrogen Monoxide end up dead. This then that though true have no direct correlation. People are truly DUMB.
Now imagine this very same thing applied on a much, much greater scale with literally anything. Your average human being would be very easily fooled by more sophisticated attempts at this. It is scary to think that you often can't really trust anything you yourself haven't validated in your own experience, whether that be through scientific experimentation or otherwise. I remember when I learned the scientific method in school. There was a very heavy emphasis on the fact that authority means nothing whatsoever when it comes to science. Peer review is great, assuming the scientific method is correctly being used, however as a scientist, by trusting someone else instead of repeating an experiment yourself, you willfully submit to the power of authority, over your own faculties. I fear in today's society there is often a severely misplaced trust in authority, and the consequences can not be overstated.
aapl942 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody has ever used that complex nomenclature for water, "oxidane" is all I've seen besides water. I've seen these jokes float around Facebook far too often...
This is very similar to a hoax I was told about in the 1960's. In Fairbanks, Alaska. A radio DJ told everybody to go outside and look at the windshields of their cars. He told them to note the small pits on the glass. (Caused by simple rocks and sands hit the glass.)
But then he went on and said they were caused by flying saucer exhaust. It provoked a minor panic in the city and the police department lines were flooded with calls about them doing something to stop this pollution.
The fact that this took place in Idaho doesn't help either. I don't remember how low we are on the education spectrum, but this really shows how poorly educated people are in this state.
This is why it is so important not to just look at a headline and form an opinion. Not just read an article or 2 and form an opinion. Critical thinking, personal research and a well informed stance is important when forming an opinion. If you cannot do this then it is best to have no opinion at all
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:08:23 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A great story and a beautiful illustration of how effective spin can be
Zazmuth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:14:32 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone notice the molecule looks like an ass in a bikini bottom?
I think this is also very much a testament to the poor quality of education in his school. Maybe the curriculum is different, but at 14 in Canada you should be able to recognize chemical names. I would've expected 25-30 people, but 43 is in my (completely personal and anecdotal) opinion way too high.
corntub ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:22 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:20 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
is it me or do other ppl see a nice booty too?
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:23 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would say about 60-70% of unnoticed comments.
It's so intriguing to me that I almost want to take a screenshot of all of the comments and compile them together. Most people will preface it with "Is it just me", "Am I the only one", or "this might sound weird but".
And too think, if the one person who knew it was water was to have told everyone the truth then this may very well not have worked and my day on the 23/06/2016 would of been slightly less enjoyable.
We did the same thing in our school but with a petition to "end women's suffrage," and people assumed "suffrage" had something to do with suffering. Two teachers even signed it :D
Research has shown that significant levels of DHMO were found in the devastating Indian Ocean tsunami in 2004 which killed 230,000 in Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia and elsewhere, making it the deadliest tsunami in recorded history.
It is widely believed that the levee failures, flooding and the widespread destruction resulting from Hurricane Katrina along the U.S. Gulf Coast in 2005 were caused or exacerbated by excessive DHMO levels found in the Gulf of Mexico, along with other contributing factors.
It's sad that the public has been fooled to think CO2 is something dangerous and dirty. It's necessary for life on earth. Goes to show how correct this 14 year old is in his experiment.
My senior year, I was able to get the vast majority of the girls in my graduating class to sign a petition looking to ban women's suffrage. My "true facts" were that it was a despicable practice, segregated 50% of our population, and has been a burden to our economic class structure.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:34:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
segregated 50% of our population
Can you explain this one, because that seems to just be a lie to me.
Interesting study at that age. I can't imagine this would work today due to the ease of access to information and people's incredible determination to spoil things (especially younger people).
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:42:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True. Also the fact that people have been pulling the dihydrogen monoxide trick for years at this point
I've had eight to ten people fall for the DHMO scare so far this year. Ignorance is far more pervasive than most people believe.
Source: personal experience and Flat Earth videos on YouTube.
Yeah, but try the trick saying H2O. it simply won't work. Of course tons of people don't know the scientific name. Why would they? The only purpose it serves is to avoid being tricked by pranksters.
I'm a professional driver, I could do the same thing by sitting random people in a big rig and telling them to drive it forward 10 feet. The vast majority simply would not be able to, even though, to me, it's so easy a monkey can do it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Saying H-twenty should work some of the time. I'm being pedantic, but why do so many people write H2O as H20?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:29:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The point is that people will attempt to affect policy with completely uninformed opinions on things. The experiment is a terrifying example of how policy is really decided. I'm surprised a 14 year old did this, the kid was very intelligent.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:50:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha true, we are in our own little bubble of "tuned in" people here, we just assume that people know things when in reality the average knowledge is likely much lower across all demographics
You'd think that having smartphones and the ability to research anything at the drop of a hat, people would be smart enough to do so. But it's really surprising how dumb people are. My niece is 15 and instead of fact checking, she falls for everything. There's entire schools full of kids like this, because they're being taught to follow a strict curriculum and not question what they're "learning". Also most don't pay attention in class.
A simple name change to Hydroxic Acid or whatever and you're good to, and even Dihydrogen Monoxide is still pretty easy to catch people with. People are very easy to scare with scary sounding words, and many will actually get mad at you (and not the person who fooled them) if you try to point it out... getting a friend to scare someone with this and then try to argue them out of it yourself (without breaking the spell by giving the chemical another name), it's hilariously frustrating.
TM3-PO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree.
Source: Donald Trump
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is great, although the snopes link has more information as to how Nathan Zohner hilariously succeeded in accomplishing this. It is a good read.
"...this example does aptly demonstrate the kind of fallacious reasoning that's thrust at us every day under the guise of "important information": how with a little effort, even the most innocuous of substances can be made to sound like a dangerous threat to human life."
dihydrogen monoxide is necessary because dihydrogen dioxide also exists (aka Hydrogen Peroxide). You don't need the prefixes in sodium chloride since no other combinations exists. Same reason its magnesium chloride, not magnesium dichloride (MgCl2). But mono is needed if other forms exist, hence carbon dioxide/ carbon monoxide
You know, lipring69 reminded me of a very important obvious rule I had missed in oversight. hydrogen and oxygen alone make a bunch of stuff, and that is where mono applies. I feel pretty dumb.
That is hilariously sad. At first you think "Ha! Bunch of high school kids don't know that its water!" and then you remember that they are only a few years away from voting and being considered adults.
This is why I mostly don't trust things anymore. Unless I know a lot about a topic, I know some clickbait article, or even any article less than about 10 pages long, that I can readily understand as a laymen, is only giving me like 1/3rd of the facts, and so my conclusions can be very easily led to the wrong place.
I feel like it's happening a LOT right now in politics. The whole "Women make 78 cents to every dollar that a man makes" statement is a good example. They don't tell you that it's across all fields, and that more women are choosing to work lower paying jobs, you're just supposed to assume that a guy at McDonalds is making more than the girl standing next to him.
Jin-roh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do hope that people remember this 14 year old's experiments when reading tweets that quote statistics, especially from those who insist that "they're only interested in the facts"
How? Did he lie?
How did he convince them dihydrogen monoxide was bad?
I understand it's water, but if someone started spouting off to me about how bad some chemical is, I might believe them.
I don't think anyone who actually voted "yes" really cared about what he was saying, or he lied to them.
I've seen this done a few times. It's not lying, it's presenting the truth in a misleading way, building off the gut reaction that chemicals are scary, especially as many people instinctively link it with carbon monoxide.
"Inhaling dihydrogen monoxide causes choking and death!"
"Long-term exposure to dihydrogen monoxide is fatal!"
"Dihydrogen monoxide is a major component in nuclear reactors!"
"Studies have found dihydrogen monoxide in our lakes and rivers!"
Hey, dihydrogen monoxide is some dangerous shit in large enough concentrations. It killed over half of the people on the Titanic when it got inside. And if it gets inside the walls of your house you can wind up having to tear it down.
lol! I'm reading this going "wait...Dihydrogen Monoxide....Isn't that 2 hydrogen, one oxygen? Water?" and then happily found I had passed a test I didn't know I was taking.
How many people drown every year? BAN WATER! Better yet, make suffocating illegal, should solve it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How can it not be totally obvious Dihydrogen Monoxide is water? I mean, everyone knows H2O right? Everyone knows it means two hydrogen and one oxygen right? Everyone knows Dihydrogen means two hydrogen, and monoxide is one oxygen right? Oh thats right, they don't for some reason, lol.
IsilZha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's funny is I originally found that site the year he did it while i was still in HS myself. I would go around quoting that site to mess with people.
13-year-old Spacemanscott did this for my 8th grade science fair project in 1998 and nobody gave me much more than a sideways glance. I got 28-30 kids to sign the petition... The guy who was designed rooftop rain water diverters into cisterns for toilet flushing water was lauded all the awards. Which begs the question, why isn't that more common.
Rosisa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First i say for his science fair project,,An analysis of the environments around a sample of 28 3CR radio galaxies with redshifts
To be fair, when was the last time that you think a senior Florida resident took a chemistry class? This bothers the fuck out of me, but I can see why it was so easily accepted and spread in the state of Florida of all places.
This one is a classic for every chem student from that day on. Surely some people pulled this trick in the past, but the kid perfected it. Still works like one of the best counter argument against people that are afraid of chemicals with "names too long to pronounce, so that means it's bad"
I always preferred "hydrogen hydroxide" as I think it better represents the molecular structure, since "dihydrogen monoxide" tends to imply the two hydrogen atoms are bonded to each other and then to the oxygen atom.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Today, Nathan Zohner is a major reddit stockholder.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Facts without proper context or critical thinking are meaningless. You can cherry pick or massage facts to fit almost any narrative. I just wish people who talk about politics would figure that out.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And then he proceeded to get his ass beat by all his classmates.
Tis a pity the Cane Sugar Lobbyists used the very same tactics to manipulate "naturalists," mush-head mommies and probiotic parents that "High Fructose Corn Syrup" is akin to child abuse.
"Real sugar" and "HFCS" are biologically seen as the same by the body when ingested as calories!!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reading things like this gives me a headache. A girl I know did this same thing except she was the one telling me about it. She said "Did you hear they have dihydrogen monoxide in subway bread?" I pieces the word together and told her the usual "haha I get it" fake laugh. She looked at me and said "What do you mean? Get what?" That's when I realized she legitimately thought it was a toxic chemical. Made me die a little bit inside.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tan1001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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v-digit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That thumbnail looks like its a really nice booty.
One of the first things my biology teacher had us do was read a case study/article on Dihydrogen Monoxide. The article was talking about how many people it killed a year and how harmful it can be. I don't think any of us realized before she told us that it was water
Byste ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried to give a similar presentation to my 5th grade class when my father told me about DHMO. They didn't even pay attention during the "harmful" facts about DHMO and laughed at me during the reveal that DHMO is just water like "well what are you even doing". One of those soul crushing childhood moments.
Reminds me of a bit from the show Parks and Recreation. The Parks Department wants to add flouride to the town's drinking water, which is something that most modern cities already do help with dental health. One of the councilmen is a dentist and is opposing this so he can get more business from people with cavities/bad teeth.
I did the same petition in HS, got a teacher to stand up and ask the whole class to sign "this very important petition."
jan_coo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"In 2006, in Louisville, Kentucky, David Karem, executive director of the Waterfront Development Corporation, a public body that operates Waterfront Park, wished to deter bathers from using a large public fountain. "Counting on a lack of understanding about water's chemical makeup", he arranged for signs reading: "DANGER! โ WATER CONTAINS HIGH LEVELS OF HYDROGEN โ KEEP OUT" to be posted on the fountain at public expense."
My guess is that when the listeners who complained found out that was was just water, they felt a little stupid and doubled down instead of laughing about it.
My teacher was able to convince my class that water was crazy addictive and super deadly. We freaked when he pulled a box of the shit out of his closet and drank it. My friend called an ambulance....
A box of water? Now that's an interesting container for liquid!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never got this. How is a kid with no or extremely little knowledge of chemistry supposed to know that di hydrogen monoxide stands for H2O. For an adult, it is unacceptable, but I don't know if a kid should know that without training.
The purpose was pretty much exactly that. It was that people voted on an issue without fully understanding it, possibly without even being aware they didn't fully understand it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
we're supposed to be impressed by 1st prize at a science fair?
HCrikki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fact are clear: driver licences are the leading cause of road deaths.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In High School I was able to get my class behind the use of Agent Orange. I played the head of Dow Chemical and was told to make it convincing that it was completely safe. Using the words of the original president at that time for my class, I got everyone behind it and the war effort pro-USA. It was a scary moment because I realized i was the only student in my history class that was taught about it at home. Thank God for NOVA.
a 14 year old may be a child in the realm of life experience and accumulated knowledge, but they are sharp as hell, probably sharper than even a 20 year old.
Ah, yes, much like women's suffrage and it's devastating effects!
Did you know, that as a direct result of women's suffrage, the power of individual voters at the voting booth has been diminished? Would it scare you to know that ever since the beginning of women's suffrage, women have directly chosen to go war? Women's suffrage has directly affected the amount of taxes that taken out of your paycheck.
End women's suffrage today!
NOTE: It's a similar case where people don't understand the vocabulary and just go by the connotations in their own minds regarding what the person says.
AOEUD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Calling water "dihydrogen monoxide" may look like telling the "technical" truth, but that phrase is almost never used except to confuse people.
The scientific name for water is "water".
Searching "dihydrogen monoxide" on Google Scholar you get only 475 results - the first two are using the word to mislead.
Speak gibberish and you get misunderstood. First prize.
Research conducted by award-winning U.S. scientist Nathan Zohner concluded that roughly 86 percent of the population supports a ban on dihydrogen monoxide. Although his results are preliminary, Zohner believes people need to pay closer attention to the information presented to them regarding Dihydrogen Monoxide. He adds that if more people knew the truth about DHMO then studies like the one he conducted would not be necessary.
I just saw Penn and Teller do this on the old Showtime show. Although that was probably worse because the people they were asking were "environmentalists," not students.
I made a similar petition for my Naval ROTC in college. It was really surprising to see how many people were supportive of banning something that the Navy would not exist without (what none of us would exist without, really). I pulled the petition out at our end of year Navy Ball and made all the signers drink from the grog. :)
I already knew that i mean, look at 95% of mainstream news/media and how they can lead the ignorant ass american public.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, as a gas it can cause severe burns. The liquid form causes massive erosion. The solid form has been known to sink ships. All phases of this dangerous chemical should be banned immediately.
Well a few enterprising young blokes from my high school (an all-boys school) started a women's rights campaign which was built around a petition and a documentary film. They canvassed the halls of our sister school (all girls) with a factual albeit craftily worded campaign and petition. The petition had a hundred or so signatures after two days.
What were they asking these women to petition against?
Our teacher would give us this paper telling of the 'wonders of (the scientific name for water here)' every summer school and some fell for it everytime. Doesnt surprise me that those same people are the social justice warriors now
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That pic looks like two buttcheeks popping out of a swimsuit
In the original article written in 1997, the author attempts to find other "Zohnerisms" throughout America, and one in particular is "One place to start is the collected speeches of Environmental Protection Agency chief Carol Browner, who has used Zohnerisms masterfully to promote expensive, disruptive new standards for particulate matter and global warming - despite evidence from scientists that is, at best, inconclusive."
Funny how the world has changed in almost twenty years. I honestly can't tell if he's joking or not...
KSDem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm reminded of a relative who, in 5th grade, refused to join her classmates as they paraded around the schoolyard loudly proclaiming themselves to working on behalf of the environment.
They were, she noted, pulling up vines while ignoring the trash as they marched around.
The world is not an easy place for the independent thinker.
He basically ripped it off from a chain email and attached a smug thesis to it. I remember seeing this distributed in science classes in 1995 and 1996.
This was also a period where people didn't have easy access to Internet and could have done some basic googling. However, this doesn't fully excuse how ignorant his classmates looked.
A local tire shop was offering to fill your new tires with 78% premium grade Nitrogen...
r2002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When it was discovered that Nathan's dad did the work, Nathan replied "It's the same in real world where hired lobbyists draft the surveys and legislative language for Congress."
plural1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of the Bastard Operator from hell short stories.
""TAKE MY ADVICE!" I say "There's only ONE way to fix a dim display, and that's by power surging the drivers"
The words "power surging" and "drivers" have got her. People hear words like that and go into Dummy Mode and do ANYTHING you say. I could tell her to run naked across campus with a powercord rammed up her backside and she'd probably do it... Hmmm..."
ahhh yes BOFH, these stories got me through my time doing Tier 1 internet help desk phone support.
2 - Reminds me of this Simpsons quote. (I always thought that quote was a lot smarter than people give it credit for; it's incredibly easy to mislead people using accurate facts if you present them in an unbalanced or biased manner. For instance, almos...
The sad thing is that people like Morgan Spurlock, Vani Hari, and David Wolfe make really good livings doing this exact same thing. People aren't always quick to question something that makes them feel like they're accomplishing something.
sicgun_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
anyone else see a nice booty in that molecule?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thumbnail of the h2o molecule looks like a booty in a red bathing suit.
Zinski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read about this while I was in middle school. Then in sophomore year bio, some fuck boi and his friend come in stop the class and ask the same exact questions.
So like 3 seconds in im like, Yeah its just water. and the whole class voted no... he didn't use us in his sample for the fair that year... fuck that kid. He got suspended for selling weed and then expelled for fighting a teacher.
GIMG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone used this in a public speech class I took in high school. She went around asking everyone to sign it. I remember thinking, "Well this makes no sense, but I don't want to embarrass the girl so I'll sign her petition."
rialtor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gatorade is better
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A New Zealander member of parliament tried to ban it too:
This is basically the EU reffurendum in the UK atm. "9/10 economists that have stufied the data say we shouldnt leave? We would lose human rights if we leave? There will be abother recession if we leave? #voteleave"
Where do I sign petition on Facebook this sounds dangerous to my grand children
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A group of friends and I in high school once got about half of our female classmates to sign a petition to end womens suffrage.... and yes, we actually did do this before the Manshow bit.
W92Baj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My father worked his whole life in the storage, transportation and purification of DHMO industry.
People are so easily manipulated.... Think for yourselves, folks!
SQLDave ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:53:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll add: Do some research and while you're doing that research, be PAINFULLY aware of confirmation bias. TRY to find credible info that your particular believe/stance/thought just might be wrong, or based on incorrect information.
I feel like the Dihydrogen Monoxide joke has been so overused that most people know what it means these days. Was probably pretty clever in 1997 though
joey03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does anyone know what the kid grew up to do with his life?
We learned what dihydrogen monoxide was on our first day of chemistry. Did none of this child's teachers ever pass college, or are liberal arts majors really this susceptible to further stupidity aside from their horrendous life choices to be public school teachers?
NKHdad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard the soil in my area is contaminated with Midi-chlorians
What I'm most excited about is there is someone else out there who shares my last name. I've never met someone outside of immediately family with our last name. And I'm the only person left in my family bearing that name.
Wtf, I did the same experiment going door to door and got a town of adults to sign a petition banning the same thing the same YEAR and didn't even place in my science fair. :(
i thought i was looking at an ass in the thumbnail for a second
Aaces ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite part was finding this little gem in the original article: >"Finding Zohnerisms in the press, Congressional Record and speeches of administration officials makes a great parlor game. One place to start is the collected speeches of Environmental Protection Agency chief Carol Browner, who has used Zohnerisms masterfully to promote expensive, disruptive new standards for particulate matter and global warming - despite evidence from scientists that is, at best, inconclusive.
That's a shame. In a land where technical ignorance reigns and susceptibility to Zohnerisms is high, it's the duty of politicians, journalists and scientists to present facts responsibly and in context.
After all, think what would happen if the EPA really did ban dihydrogen monoxide."
We should ban names. Every wife beater, dictator, murderer, rapist, child molester, drug addict, pedophile, serial killer, and mass murderer had a name.
The logo looks like a sideways butt in red underwear.
Nerdn1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a teacher try to pull this crap, but it was in a Freshman AP science class, so there were more people who figured it out immediately, myself included.
wzrdmn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this shit sounds like a real 'Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hydro'
cazbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how much those 7 kids were paid by the water lobby?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So don't you think there should be a task force of people that go out and just read shit and try to identify this stuff? I feel like this is happening everywhere and people are just mentally lazy.
In High School we used to joke about 'Hydrogen Hydroxide' being the primary component in acid rain... but I enjoy the point of the study, that's clever!
Hegiman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't care what people think im hooked on the stuff, I'd die without it. Hell, I got a bottle of it earlier today and using right now. I love DHMO.
Lo0seR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Timing of this TIL , interesting considering the story above it on the frontpage.
My friend an I did this in the seventh grade, with a booth at the county fair. And then the next year we did the same thing only with women's suffrage.
We got the idea from some television program, I don't remember which.
Anyway we got about 70 or so signatures for banning water. Some boy-scout, ratted us out on the women's suffrage ban, though. Before he showed up we had about 120 signatures. We had pictures of mother Theresa looking sad, with the words "End Women's Suffrage Now", some chains, and nothing else.
People will sign anything if they think it makes them look sympathetic.
What are you talking about? Dihydrogen Monoxide is a known poison. People have died after consuming as little as 18,000 milligrams at once.
Method of action: In sufficient quantities, this poison disturbs electrolyte balance, making it hard for cells to get the nutrients they need to function.
half students being dumb and likely to jump on any protest you stick in front of them, half kids who realized the joke and thought it'd be funny to vote to ban it anyway
Ford42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, so what. My daughter did a very similar project when she was in junior high in 1995. Only she went to her teachers and adults in the community also. The only person to catch it out of 76 respondents was a 12 year old kid in her math class. She got first place in the junior regional science fair for psychology.
hymnder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:29 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've actually joked about this on facebook. Funny thing was all the pro disease people liked it because they thought I was against "chemicals". Fucking tards.
During World War II, dihydrogen monoxide was used on various undesirables who were told they were taking "showers". Homosexuals, Jews, gypsies, political prisoners, and sometimes even their own men.
mitchsn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:33 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Penn & Teller did the same thing on their show Bullshit
Maybe we should start doing this with vinegar. Known to chemists as diluted glacial acetic acid. The IUPAC calls it ethanoic acid. Other names are hydrogen acetate and methanecarboxylic acid. I have wikipedia to thank for the names.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AnhTom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This honestly doesn't impress me much. It's funny, and it's informative in the sense it is a good intellectual exercise to show how important reading closely and critically is. But there's no great lesson here. I'm quite surprised, frankly, that this was considered some achievement. It should not be surprising that either people are concerned about dangerous substances in our contemporary society or, more pointedly, that they are often heavily (or over) reliant on trusting the opinions of others who are giving what appears to be a considered judgment on a topic.
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:26 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it was more the concept of what he did for his project rather than the outcome. Sure it's probably a lot easier to convince a bunch of 14 year old kids than adults, but it makes you wonder what would happen if you surveyed a better sample of people. More importantly, it makes you wonder what other information is being misrepresented by influential figures, the media, etc. and how it effects the population.
AnhTom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:36 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. I'm a lawyer so I'm used to reading very critically and skeptically. So I get the art of verbal manipulation big-time. It's all around us, all day, every day. I don't wonder about it at all. I take it as an obvious fact of life.
A spokesperson for the city's water system told the reporter that there was no more dihydrogen monoxide in the system than what was allowed under the law.[21]
This reminds me when i was in second grade my teacher gave my class of 30 students each a piece a paper with numbered instructions to complete various tasks one at a time around the classroom. the very first instruction was to read every instruction before acting on any of them.
long story short, everyone in the class save for one individual read ALL of the instructions and was the only student to read that the final instruction was to ignore all of the instructions and just sit down at our desk until everyone had read that step.
so while everyone else was performing the various tasks as instructed on the paper, the one student went to his chair, and sat down, and waited for everyone else to complete the tasks.
that really set a tone for my life, I've never not read all of the instructions for anything thoroughly ever since.
While it's completely retarded to vote to ban something you obviously never heard of before. It's kind of weird how some people are acting like the average child/teenager let alone adult should know what Dihydrogen Monoxide is. Why is the chemical name for water that is so rarely used expected to be common knowledge among people that have no interest in chemistry??
I have a Bachelors degree and I was never in my life exposed to the word Dihydrogen Monoxide in any meaningful enough way that I would remember it lol
Parts of this I don't really have a strong opinion over - like the firing of the guys over the prank. That's just meh to me. But a lot of people are calling ignorant those who don't realize that Dihydrogen Monoxide is water, or their reaction to the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide. I do think they're giving themselves too much credit.
Most people don't really understand why arsenic or plutonium is bad for your health. You trust what you've been told. You probably don't even know what arsenic really is. Or if you do, I'm sure I can pick a dozen other things for which you think is bad for you, but you don't really know why or really have an understanding of what the substance is. And on any April 1st, there's probably a set of news stories will be about things that are dangerous to your health, just like these news stories come up at random probabilities on any other day of the year. Those two radio guys probably mention real news on a regular basis, which they intend their listeners to actually heed. The story frames it as an April Fools joke, so you see it as that.
You'd look dumb if I told you that the whole story was an April Fools day joke.
metecho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:45 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I keep thinking the thumbnail is a sexy booty. Ooh girl let me pinch them hydrogens
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:12 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This has been a regular thing. People did this for science fair in middle school, going around their neighborhood and whatnot telling people all these terrible facts- then at the very end revealing it's just water.
Future savior or marketing guru right there. Effin Brilliant.
Zah96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:28 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like a picture of butt
fortevn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:32 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like how he said "Ignorant public" instead of "Stupid people"
Luvax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:34 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember our chemestry teacher reading the same facts about water and getting everyone of us to ban it. Now I know the background. I think there is a huge lesson to be learned from that.
It boggles my mind that a 14 year old could probably convince millions of Americans that water is bad. Guys who can spin facts like this is how mlm schemes/anti vaccers/scientologists sucker people into their respective cults.
I teach an environmental class and did something similar to this at the beginning of my water unit. Despite having chemistry as a prerequisite, only 2 out of 93 students got my joke. I was actually a little bummed by that, but they were pretty serious in their discussion of why it should be banned.
zemallo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This could probably easily be repeated on an international level thanks to social media and ignorance. Get people protesting on the streets about the use of dhmo
My chemistry teacher tried this once. I was the only one to speak up but she just looked at me, so i figured shit, this woman has like 3 bachelor's degrees, and i have a C- in this class, i must be wrong.
Aaaaaand this is perfectly explains why Donald trump and Hilary Clinton are the two most people will vote for this year. People who may technically have the facts but are greatly missing the big picture and ability to think critically. โน๏ธ
Penn and Teller did a really great bit on this. They had a lady (in on it) go around to one of these environmentalist conventions and have people sign a petition. She was giving great fake stats. They got a ton of idiots to sign it, and one noticed what it was. It's on YouTube. Source: https://youtu.be/yi3erdgVVTw
PFY1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My Chem teacher gave us this like 3rd day in the class only about 6 of us got it and when we pointed it out we got into this big argument about gmos. Never once did they admit they were wrong just changed subjects lol
It is. It's a joke. It's basically showing that if you present information that, while still correct, in a specific way you can drive people to a desired conclusion.
Telling people that Dihydrogen monoxide is a major component of acid raid. (Because all rain is mainly water)
That it can cause severe burns. (If it's hot enough)
That it can corrode metal. (By rusting it)
That it can erode natural landscapes (That is how rivers work)
That it can cause electrical failures in cars. (Or in any electronic that gets wet.)
Is used in nuclear power plants (As a coolant)
Is used on animals in laboratories. (Animals need to drink)
Is used in pesticides on produce and washing them does not remove it. (Hard to remove water from a plant by washing it.)
You are correct. By calling water by its proper chemical composition as a joke, and even created hoax pages about caused so many to fall for it. Even funnier when they say the water supply was contaminated by, well water, just show you how people and tree huggers jump on the bandwagon without actually understanding what it is all about.
Ultrapure water is everything described and more. It's actually dangerous for you in moderate quantities, since it leaches minerals from your body. Plus it tastes bad.
TIL that water looks like a double amputee in a pair of overly tight red underwear.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy heck this post's 8000 upvotes was brought back down to 5000...
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:02 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know. It was up to 9,880... Yet even though it went back down to 5,000 it still remained around 80% upvotes. TIL about Vote Fuzzing. I guess there are bots that upvote and downvote posts to regulate the feed or something.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:17 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makes you wonder about the highest post on /r/all ....maybe it had about 100k upvotes before being dragged back down to 66k? Woah
I fell like 14 year olds are way more impressionable than adults and would just accept something like this if told and don't accurately represent people as a whole.
Theres a fair number of people nit picking and saying things like he only mentioned Dihydrogen monoxide once so it would be hard to catch. Thats the entire point of the project getting people misinformed. Its not about how smart people are, its about how easy it is to make people assume the wrong conclusion without lying.
This is what I hate about science fairs. It's just shit kids copy from something they find online. I guess it's good for showing them the process of the scientific method, but I wish it could be done in a vacuum. Let the kids come up with their own problem and how to go about solving and testing it.
It also has addictive properties, 100% of people who tried it came back for more.
kvn9765 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You think that's crazy, my neighbor puts his kids in a box with explosive materials and then proceeds to create a whole bunch of small explosions. At some point you would think after creating thousands of small explosions that the gallons of HIGHLY explosive material will turn into a fireball. Think of the children!!!
I'm broke dude, sorry. Have an upvote and some Reddit Silver instead.
kvn9765 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just kidding. Keep your silver, we are all in this Reddit thing together... except for the guys who own it, they are rich as fuck.
kvn9765 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
obtw: You know that was a real fear. When the internal combustion engine came out for cars, the sales people for steam cars would bring up the fear of explosions. At the time, you would be sitting on the gas tank.
this experiment pretty much explains why before guns or any other reform, you need to reform who is and isn't allowed to vote. Like....take a simple, miniature test or something to weed out some insanity
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Poll test! Poll test!
Question 1: do you Reddit or read the hugfington post?
If yes no franchise rights for you!
The problem isn't actually reasoning or intellect it is flaws in the human condition. The major one is that emotions override reason and critical thought.
There is literally nothing you can do about it. It needs to be regulated by the government.
Someone needs to create Adams smiths theory on economics for societal pressures and media. Aka (Nazi fascism).
And there's your dilemma solve it.
(See what I did there I got you to agree with the Nazis for a second. . .)
Your second statement about emotions overriding rational thought is so on point it's not even funny.
Nothing was more apparent than the recent gun debates. I don't want to get into what is right or what is wrong but I heard a legit argument from someone that the AR-15 is the most widely used weapon in mass killings not for its lethality, light weight portability, high rounds per minute potential or mag capacity....no...I heard a grown man say, "it's only used because the killers think it looks cool..."
Again, I'm not flaming a debate but when that is your argument and you truly believe what you're saying to be true, then THATS what I find scary.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's insane. Once you start looking for it you see it everywhere.
There is no longer a media organization in America doing its job. Literally every outlet now creates these emotionally charged headlines which are factually incorrect, fear inducing, and extremely divisive, based on emotional pleas.
Why? Because it's more profitable. As Howard Stern discovered his best listeners were the ones he upset the most.
It's not just guns it's everything. The media is filled with amoral, degenerate scum. And natural law dictates that Amoral, degenerate, scum will succeed more with media than responsible newscasters because of flaws in the human psychology which can be exploited by vermin with loose ethical affiliations. If it bleeds it leads. These emotional manipulations are like drugs for human psychology.
Just like the Mafia is the best form of business, or fraud, or unethical actors like those who dump toxic waste instead of disposing of it properly, or monopolies who destroy competition, unethical actors will always out produce and out profit responsible businesses. Natural law favors unethical and damaging actors.
Our solution? Regulation. Societal good takes precedence to the benefit of the few who exploit the system unethically for their own enrichment. Our regulated economy works remarkably well in most respects.
The media needs regulation just like the economy. It is the only solution.
Having worked at a local news station in a fairly decent market for a couple years I can confirm everything you said.
Stories are just regurgitated from the early morning AP wire and put into the producer's (or whoever happens to be writing the copy that day) own words.
People don't watch the news because they want to be informed, they watch to hear someone speak on stories they already knew about...I never quite understood.
You write really well...are you a teacher or in the writing profession?
KEEP CONTAINER TIGHTLY CLOSED. SUITABLE FOR ANY GENERAL CHEMICAL STORAGE
AREA. DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE IS CONSIDERED A NON-REGULATED PRODUCT, BUT
REACTS VIGOROUSLY WITH SOME MATERIALS. THESE INCLUDE SODIUM, POTASSIUM
AND OTHER ALKALI METALS; ELEMENTAL FLUORINE; AND STRONG DEHYDRATING AGENTS
SUCH AS SULFURIC ACID. IT FORMS EXPLOSIVE GASES WITH CALCIUM CARBIDE.
AVOID CONTACT WITH ALL MATERIALS UNTIL INVESTIGATION SHOWS SUBSTANCE IS
COMPATIBLE. EXPANDS SIGNIFICANTLY UPON FREEZING. DO NOT STORE IN RIGID
CONTAINER AND PROTECT FROM FREEZING.
http://www.dhmo.org/msdsdhmo.html
"I will say we just got the latest revision of Touch hardware back that is not on the show floor, that is not in developers' hands. They just started coming off the production line and they're higher quality and better tracking than what you see today. We have the capability to do room-scale and we are still determining what our exact position is with regards to room-scale.
They now (yesterday) have improved tracking with the capability to do roomscale.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:31:38 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So the multitude of dev videos already doing roomscale are CGI? What on earth does that have to do with anything anyway? I was referring to your atrocious behavior in /r/oculus before you and your obnoxious peers thankfully, finally migrated to /r/vive (where admittedly you've continued your crap, but at least where I don't have to see it).
Inb4 "I don't know what you're talking about." It's simply not possible for someone to lack self-awareness to that extent and still maintain an identity. But then again I guess you can't acknowledge it and still save face for your fans who take your bullshit for gospel.
So the multitude of dev videos already doing roomscale are CGI?
The Fantastic contraption 18' roomscale video shows lots of jitter when one camera is occluded and he is 9' from the other. Taking that as the limit, a 9' diagonal square leaves you with about a 6foot, 4inches squared usable play area.
With the corner shadowing, due to vertical fov, when you have them that close it would be even smaller.
This is all just based on the fantastic contraption video.
But it sounds like they have now finally improved it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:52:04 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, fucking unbelievable. I considered editing that bit out knowing that if you replied it would be to that and that only. Decided to keep it to see if I was right and lo and behold.
Now the question is whether it's part of personal conviction or if it's in your job description.
Now that there are no bits left to reply to that would let you avoid acknowledging yourself, I expect no more replies. :)
In grade 8, our science teacher essentially presented the DHMO hoax to the class. He asked us how many of us would propose to ban/reduce/eliminate the use of this substance. Nearly everyone put their hand up. When asked who would not be in favour of banning this substance, I was the only one to put my hand up. He asked me why I didn't want to ban DHMO. I said, You've listed only the negative effects of the use of this chemical, what are the positives and what is it used for? He commented on my ability to think critically, and explained the whole DHMO hoax. I received a bunch of "try-hard" stares from my classmates.
The facts are clear people we need to ban all dihydrogen monoxide until we an figure out this situation. We need to build a wall around it and deport it. It's coming In here. it's bringing burns, rape and is used to make drugs.
We need to ban it now!
footfoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you understand why GMO labeling is a bad thing now?
Or... it proves how easily manipulated 14 year old children can be. Parents of science fair kids are 100% responsible for the content of those experiments. The ideas are generally an amalgamation of their own wasted potential at that age and issues that their children don't give a shit about.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:15:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hydrogen dioxide would be HO2 (which I don't think would ever exist), not water.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:50:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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geniice ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:03:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The chemists on the other hand will beat you to death with a copy of the IUPAC nomenclature of inorganic chemistry (which would suggest that if for some reason you want to call it something other than water "Hydrogen oxide" would the logical name).
mfb- ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:23:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not even the point - it is fine if you don't know what dihydrogen monoxide is, but then don't pretend to have an informed opinion on it - something many people do. Same with genetic modifications, nuclear power and so on.
Not only this, but he basically plagiarized it. The whole "dihydrogen monoxide" thing was a popular faxlore back when I was in junior high in the 1980s.
At that level everything "science expiriment" is unoriginal research, its about showing competency with the steps of research rather than obtaining meaningful results.
This kid is a Grade A dickcheese for making this project. Plus, when my teacher did this to us, she told us it could kill you if you drank it, and I panicked because I accidentally drank some of it during one of the steps in the project. So, I caused a classwide panic because everyone thought that I was going to die right there on the spot.
TL;DR: Teacher told me water could kill me, accidentally drank some, and caused a small riot to ensue in class
She had us put the water into a straw and hold it there so other people could observe how it moved. I think she was literally wanting us to cause mass panic.
That's funny. Psychiatric RN here. I actually told a paranoid patient last night that the cup I was holding contained dihydrogen monoxide, and that she was to drink it with her medicine.
Of course she refused, but it was a fun little gag anyway. You'd have to understand the relationship I have with her. It wasn't taken as deceitful or mean in context.
So he convinced other 14 year olds that knew nothing of chemistry or nomenclature that a molecule was bad. It sounds like carbon monoxide which has a negative connotation to it, rightly so. Can people be swindled and hoodwinked into thinking something about a subject they are uneducated about. there are a million examples of this and they bum me out. I personally hate all of the dihydrogen monoxide jokes.
I didn't see the date. I was 12 when this happened so I probably would have been fooled like the rest of them as I knew nothing about chemistry. I happened to see a joke about it after I had a general chemistry class so my view point of it was different. Making fun due to ignorance is easy and almost demeaning.
Sounds like the EU debate in the UK, letting a completely undemocratic state have absolute power over them with fear being preached as to why they should accept it.
Xenodia ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL that the Human race manage to surprise me how stupid some people can be.
I mean when I was 13 years old, I've learned in school what the scientific name of water is...
Yes, surely dumping previously unseen concentrations of CO2 into a balanced system has zero consequences. Le Chรขtelier's Principle doesn't exist. It's all media hype.
Jorhiru ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the use of true facts can lead the ignorant public to false conclusions
No, what it proves is that when you deliberately use terminology that is obscure to those without a chemistry background, and then leverage people's trust in you to come to a conclusion that you claim (falsely) to support, THEN they arrive at a false conclusion. Hooray. The fact that this kid got a science award for that premise is the real failure here.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's exactly what his study was meant to show. People ought to do their own research before mindlessly signing a petition. Seems obvious, and yet the majority of his classmates didn't even bother thinking about what they were doing. Says something about how democracy can go wrong...
Jorhiru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? A bunch of 14 year olds in an era before ubiquity of internet search engines trusted a classmate of theirs with a deliberately false and misleading premise, and that's the parallel you came away with? See, if there's a way of expressing something that is easier to understand, such as calling water "water" instead of "dihydrogen monoxide" - then that's the route you go if you hope to inform or be honest.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This dihydrogenmonoxide thing has been going on for decades, and even if you ask people in public, the majority of them would still be in favor of banning it, and they're not 14 years old. Which just seems weird to me. I know nothing about chemistry, but if somebody came along and asked me if I wanted to sign a petition to outlaw "Pentahydroxyhexanal" (just got this from Wikipedia, it's sugar), I wouldn't sign it just because it sounds "scary". Instead, I'd look it up somewhere to see what this random dude I just met on the street's proposal is all about.
The point of the study isn't to deceive people by calling water by its chemical name, but to show that it's very easy to get them to support banning something they have no idea about.
Jorhiru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, I agree that the adult public deciding on real legislation has a greater onus when it comes to being informed. But when I can call something by a term that near everyone understands, or else select a term I know few will understand, and I choose the latter in making a case for something I do not support - that is absolutely an intent to deceive. I can guarantee that those same kids would not support their classmate had he merely used the better known term "water", no matter what other supplemental "facts" he used to try and make his case. That's important.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't doubt that. However, I bet that if the study were performed with a different chemical that doesn't have a more commonly known trivial name, say 5-Hydroxytryptophan (an amino-acid), most people would still sign the petition even though the substance is mostly harmless. No deception there. What I'm trying to say is that a large part of the population is just scared of "chemically-sounding" names in general.
Jorhiru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, for sure - no argument there. "Most people" don't even know what century the US Civil War occurred in. But there's no clear answer on what the public should or shouldn't know (other than more than they do, haha), and using trust and obscurity to dupe people is as old as time. Far better to go after those that deliberately seek to mislead, than to expect the public to suddenly attain enlightenment.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He should work at a conservative think tank.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is how I feel about Bernie supporters. They'll get behind anything that sounds like it would solve a problem without first understanding what the problem is.
They banned water from his project? So he wasn't allowed to use water in his project? So what? There's lots of other projects he could have done that don't need water.
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On_A_Side_Note_Guy ยท 6012 points ยท Posted at 18:38:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Forty-three students favored banning DHMO, six were undecided, and only one correctly recognized that 'dihydrogen monoxide' is actually plain old water.
Here's the information he gave the students:
Contamination is reaching epidemic proportions!
Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice. DHMO has caused millions of dollars of property damage in the midwest, and recently California.
Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal. The impact on wildlife is extreme, and we cannot afford to ignore it any longer!
The American government has refused to ban the production, distribution, or use of this damaging chemical due to its "importance to the economic health of this nation." In fact, the navy and other military organizations are conducting experiments with DHMO, and designing multi-billion dollar devices to control and utilize it during warfare situations. Hundreds of military research facilities receive tons of it through a highly sophisticated underground distribution network. Many store large quantities for later use.
ilikerazors ยท 723 points ยท Posted at 20:21:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, I can't Wash away this water!
B0Boman ยท 143 points ยท Posted at 00:42:45 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't tell you how many times I've grabbed a measuring cup, used to to measure water, then made sure to rinse it out when I'm done. You know, to rinse out all the water.
scotchirish ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 02:13:03 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't say that I've felt the need to rinse it out, but it definitely feels wrong just putting it back in the drawer.
notmyrealusernamme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:47:08 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just gotta use good old bleach too get all that nasty DHMO off
scotchirish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:57:10 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And maybe a little amonia for good measure?
notmyrealusernamme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:08:31 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now Peggy... Hwat did I tell you about using the computer when I'm not home.
scotchirish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:43 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Los cientos, soy muy embarasada
mizzrym91 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:03:24 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think its wrong you put it in a drawer, cupboards for life bitch
Scientolojesus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:17 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I either turn it upside down on a towel by the sink to let it dry, or if it's one of the smaller cups I just make sure it's the topmost one in the stack.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:30 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uhmmmm shit I do that too. Lol
TheCrimsonKing95 ยท 198 points ยท Posted at 20:38:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, that's the most underrated line in the entire thing.
[deleted] ยท 196 points ยท Posted at 23:27:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the "largest component in acid rain" was pretty clever too.
JoXand ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:11:58 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's in almost every stream, river, and lake in America!
classic_douche ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:16:20 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, its more clever than that. He says it's been found in almost every one in America, which is technically true because not every stream, river, and lake has been discovered.
So...yeah.
JoXand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck...
Hebetude ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:22:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I took it more as a reference to the fact that plants are whatever percentage made of water but your take is much more amusing.
Edit: Wait, "Dude I can't wash away this water. " would still work with my take but I took your take as someone trying to dry off a plant by washing but am no longer sure that that was your take... So maybe your take was more amusing but maybe it was the same with my take on your take being what I found amusing...
Turtles all the way down.
baneofthesmurf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:02:53 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WD-40
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read it like it was a SCP dark humor notation.
Iknowr1te ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you should try dry cleaning instead
HeyShutupMom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://imgur.com/qCVYfgD
[deleted] ยท 4906 points ยท Posted at 19:30:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, fuck the science fair he should get an English award for that. I want to ban water right now.
DrPhilodox ยท 968 points ยท Posted at 19:55:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in too. BAN IT!
grandpajones ยท 173 points ยท Posted at 20:45:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
California is at least restricting it!
chiquioeldelBarro ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 20:59:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
About time someone did something!
cloud3321 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:27:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The noble Nestlรฉ company is taking the valiant effort of making sure they take all this chemical out of the eco system and are doing so at no cost to the government.
Chukens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NESTLE IS EEEEEEEEVIL!!
/s
ramsey13 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:59:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just got a notice from my water company that says they'll be raising rates next year due to low usage.
blitzvictory ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:36:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even withdrawal from it has become taxing.
Pence128 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:36:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Private?
ramsey13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:52 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Valencia water company. Santa Clarita, CA
Edited to add source. Story was old so I removed it.
Pence128 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:28 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, wow. They're raising rates while paying CLWA ~$800k in dividends. Now CLWA's working on buying out the third of four water utilities in their bid to control all of the water in Santa Clarita which they are expressly forbidden from controlling as per their enabling act. Also they've managed to get legislation passed that lets them into the energy sector. All hail the one true unregulated public utilities monopoly.
Who the hell gave them the power to do anything other than the one thing they were created to do: sell non-local water wholesale to distributors.
tuckjohn37 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This needs more upvotes then it has
banthetruth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
figures those yuppies in the valley would be the first to slap a ban on it.
Gator-Empire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah California, they always seem to be one step ahead of the rest of the country.
ttderrer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if you mean one step closer to societal collapse, you're right.
abaddamn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:19 on June 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Australia has permarestricted it after its effective use in hiding drugs.
BeARdBARIAN ยท 541 points ยท Posted at 20:11:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. We don't need water for anything when we've got brawndo! Shit has electro-lights which is apparently what plants desire.
props_to_yo_pops ยท 184 points ยท Posted at 20:14:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They crave it!
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 21:25:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But why do plants crave them?'
mdelp138 ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 21:36:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's got electolytes.
Smokey_McTrees ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 21:59:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I ain't never seen no plants grow outta no toilet before
Jiggyx42 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:52:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're smart, maybe you should be director of interior
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:25:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do not, my friends, become addicted to water. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence.
Gjeweler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brought to you by Carl's Junior
E4tabrizi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:11:41 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit... I think Reddit might be the tipping point to an idiocratic system.
HolidayCards ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:07:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hah, why would you drink the stuff that's in toilets?
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:17:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We wanted to know if we could go family style on her
tuxedoburrito ยท 116 points ยท Posted at 20:57:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's what plants crave.
It's got electrolytes.
*does hand gesture*
iamthejef ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:10:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water? You mean like, out the toilet?
Scientolojesus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:02 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You want us to come with you to make sure she puts out?
DrChillgood ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:45:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why we keep dihydrogen monoxide in the toilet.
yung_and_badass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Undergrad microbiologist here. Plants actually don't necesarrily need water because it is a bi-product of cell respiration. Water certainly helps them grow but there are thousands of species that survive on a day to day basis never drinking water once in their life (think deserts).
clavicl0 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:41:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know much about desert plants but I do know that every lifeform (that we know of) cannot survive without water. It's the universal cellular solvent.
tuxedoburrito ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:28:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do cacti get their nutrients then? I thought they could just go a long time without water
yung_and_badass ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:30:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sun, air, dirt, ribosomes
hamcurtain420 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you dont mind me asking. What are ribosomes. Im pretty sure they're inside of cells but im not sure of what they do.
heuve ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ribosomes are essentially the manufacturing facility in cells for the production of proteins.
They read sequences of nucleic acid which have been exported from the nucleus and follow them like a blueprint to attach amino acids (protein building blocks) together in the specified sequence.
In factory, there are several ancillary functions (material acquisition and preparation, energy supply, export/distribution) that aren't necessarily handled at the heart of the manufacturing operation. Similarly, ribosomes require a lot of help, but do get the glory of piecing together the proteins required for all cellular functions.
hamcurtain420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah k. Thanks for answering that. I guess i could have googled it but i really enjoy reading the replies of people knowledgeable on the subject in question.
heuve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
No worries, I enjoyed having the opportunity to explain them! I agree explanations from knowledgeable people are often more interesting, understandable, and informative than technical sources.
Edit: but be skeptical of "knowledgeable" individuals who don't provide sources for additional information on the topic. People who are passionate about something want to help others learn about it too.
E4tabrizi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:12:37 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
pick a different field of study. Either roots or from humidity moisture. all plants need water.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why that's Idiocracy!
ganjaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water sucks. Gatorade's better.
Jed118 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Electronic lights, who would have thought of That!
BeARdBARIAN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:24 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And Brawndo has it! How do they get those lights into the bottles anyway?
Jed118 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Several words: Fluorescence.
dandadominator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:10 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahem. Dihydrogen Monocide
demian123456789 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:37:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there an abreviation for "i'd give gold, but i'm on mobile"?
purpleronsta ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:10:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll stick with my T-Dazzle.
bigcheesefon2due ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:42:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But, what do they make brawndo with?
benretan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:12:54 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water? You mean that stuff in the toilets?
ThePickledMick ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:22:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Call it Assault Water to gain traction!
derekandroid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:55:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dam water to hell!
wabushooo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:57:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We're going to build a wall and make water pay for it!
donbondon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:40:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you are now the CEO of Nestle
Turtlegalore ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:05:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live southern California and we almost got rid of all of it.
germinik ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:09:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All in favor?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:09:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sweet, sweet water
CesarPon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know dihydrogen monoxide. I have the best dihydrogen monoxide. Ask anyone
braaibros ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:46:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The dam just got 10 feet taller.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:15:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We should burn it too! BURN ALL WATERS!
DigbyBrouge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IT CAUSES AUTISM
ExcerptMusic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer assault water ban
FatKidsRHard2Kidnap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Paging /u/PitchForkEmporium
PitchforkEmporium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:33 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Howdy
Cubonerific ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We in California are way ahead of y'all.
DrPhilodox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Not by choice tho
spideranansi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn right they should ban it...along with midi chlorians.
RayMcKegney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not just ban it. Let's burn it.
Any-sao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone should send this to Donald Trump. I feel like he'd fall for it.
Foulnut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agree, ban it. Who needs water when you have Mountain Dew
randyhutton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PRIVATIZE IT!!!
-Nestle
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:20 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Move to California. Problem solved.
-widget ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:22 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Build a wall!
TubasAreFun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dam it!
wOlfLisK ยท 316 points ยท Posted at 20:28:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, I knew going in it was out of context facts about water but now I'm just about ready to grab a pitchfork and protest the government. Where's /u/pitchforkemporium when you need him?
PitchforkEmporium ยท 449 points ยท Posted at 20:51:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hi
LDSinner ยท 201 points ยท Posted at 20:56:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One pitchfork please
pentuplemintgum666 ยท 143 points ยท Posted at 21:05:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Made with minimal hydroxl acid footprint, thanks.
SubcommanderMarcos ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 22:36:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't recommend it, his pitchforks contain trace ammounts of FeO2, and that shit ain't right
grammar_hitler947 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:56:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rust?
_fuck_me_sideways_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:15:41 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed. Rust, Iron Oxide, FeO2.
abaddamn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:43:47 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You may think aluminium is immune to generating dihydrogen monoxide reactives but I can tell you once the temperature reaches 500 degrees C there's bound to be a BOOM worse than Sodium or Potassium.
nedonedonedo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:37:16 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://gagnamite.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/chemistry_like_a_boss_ferrous_wheel.jpg
blaccvincentvega ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:47:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's downright ugly is what it is
PitchforkEmporium ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:57:33 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That'll be 1 soul
Amplifeye ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A fork for pitching, if I may.
wOlfLisK ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:01:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One anti-establishment pitchfork, please!
PitchforkEmporium ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:58:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-----(edge)
kirmaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:00:13 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i figured it would be ----(
A)[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:16 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
kirmaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:44:54 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had to make do since i didn't think the anarchy symbol would be in unicode.
PitchforkEmporium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh maybe
Sophira ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:52 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was DHMO involved in the production of that pitchfork?
PitchforkEmporium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:03 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No
Hangloobiligleshamor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:13:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh thank goodness you're here! We need pitchforks stat!
PitchforkEmporium ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:58:09 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-----E
_Dreamweavers ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:43:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
* you suddenly notice a song playing in the distance *
PitchforkEmporium ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:58:36 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like it
powergo1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:57:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey
PitchforkEmporium ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:57:39 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Howdy
Bladelink ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:49:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We just wanted to give you a holler. How's your day going?
PitchforkEmporium ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:59:49 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just came back from a date so it's been good
he-said-youd-call ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:39 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good on ya! When does the lucky person get to tour the pitchfork stash?
PitchforkEmporium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:26 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anytime over at the emporium
RandomExcess ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you are always helping the little guy, thanks Mr Pitchfork!
PitchforkEmporium ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:59:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tips pitchfork
m'ob
zilfondel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:30 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Two pitchforks plz.
PitchforkEmporium ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:52 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That'll be 2 souls please
usm_teufelhund ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:41:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't. I hear they use DHMO in the machining process for their pitchforks.
liquid_ass_ ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 21:20:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DAE PITCHFORK CIRCLEJERK
SleestakJack ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 20:33:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is literally copy and pasted from something that was floating around Usenet in the mid-90's. He didn't even write it.
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 20:41:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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RivingtonDown ยท 198 points ยท Posted at 20:47:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It looks like that site, dhmo.org, was registered and created in 1999. This science experiment was done by a kid in 1997.
timacles ยท 153 points ยท Posted at 20:55:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How the turn tables
veggiter ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:19:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
And again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#History
It was first created as an April Fools' joke circa 1983 with subsequent revisions by different people.
Irrelevantly, I also independently realized that water could be described by a more formal name for comedic effect when I was in 10th grade.
Sayer_of_Nay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:44:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watch out, we have a badass on our hands!! :)
veggiter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:45:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
polishes nails on shirt
Sayer_of_Nay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol
xbtdev ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:29:54 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why but I read this as "Wipes nail polish on shirt".
veggiter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:10:33 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah shit. I forgot to let them dry.
KommanderKrebs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:54:40 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
messes with cuticles and avoids eye contact
veggiter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:56 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
contemplates mortality
AnnieB25 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:59:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now I want a Scotch and Splenda.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:04:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And a meatball and tuna sub.
kmacku ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:06:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bro. The meta isn't even cold yet.
...Like my cheese and several sauce sub.
SlowTurn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eww
askthepoolboy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:05:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They might wobble, but they don't fall down.
frogsexchange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turned with tables left to turn
whoisJeffArthur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turntables
TydeQuake ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:00:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, the wikipedia page says that that site was inspired by Zohner's research.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:17:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's even mentioned in it haha. "Research conducted by award-winning U.S. scientist Nathan Zohner concluded that roughly 86 percent of the population supports a ban on dihydrogen monoxide. Although his results are preliminary"
Atario ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:53:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The concept was around a lot longer than that
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/dihydrogen-monoxide-hoax
serfdomgotsaga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:56:28 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WWW =/= usenet.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:09:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:00:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:35 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:20 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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brianpv ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:48:02 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uhhhh, water is a solvent and it is a fire retardant...
JayStar1213 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:51:46 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That site credits a "scientist" of the name, "Nathan Zohner".
JuanDeLasNieves_ ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 21:04:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So he even fooled people into thinking it's his work, that's like a double con there, I'm impressed
genryaku ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:39:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
He seems uniquely suited to be a modern day tv news anchor. His talent would be highly regarded in the field of news.
happilynorth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:40:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a future English teacher, and I want to use this as an example for my students. Maybe when they see how language can be used to manipulate people, they will be more inclined to learn it.
Webo_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YEAH! FUCK WATER!
MidwestMunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He has the best words.
OGCASHforGOLD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His parents must be lobbyists...
swarlay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It wasn't his idea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax#History
clearlyoutofhismind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This has been an ongoing troll for a long time.
aroll10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thumbnail is 100% a clip art of a butt.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
California did for a while. It was.. so so.
Randomsilliness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit out this kid on the debate team while you're at it. I would have voted to ban it.
AcousticNike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Inb4 his daddy paid someone to write that. Or he's really good at English.
Bryce940 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The one kid who knew what it really was must have been laughing his ass off on the inside.
CallmeDaddio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a mid 20 year old I can't even write as well as him... (when he was 14)
geebook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean its obvious he didnt come up with the idea himself tho i mean come on
celeron787 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if anyone noticed but 100% of people who drink water die. Some toxic stuff indeed
whydoesmybutthurt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:35 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah his parents definitely wrote that.
kru4me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:20 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are not the only millennial.
JayStar1213 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:19 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As if this should be a fear anyways. For fuck's sake. What about concrete... or FUCK, people????
cjhobbes ยท 1385 points ยท Posted at 20:11:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do not, my friends, become addicted to water.
pfizer_soze ยท 336 points ยท Posted at 20:56:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To me, this seemed like the closest thing to a lie in the document. The wording implies that people become dependent on water, when really they are never not dependent.
Captain_Fuck_It ยท 220 points ยท Posted at 21:23:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That and the "almost every lake" sentence are the two which stretch it a little - you could replace "become dependent" with "for those who are dependent" as it has no implication that you are never dependent on Water
kiss_the_kalashnikov ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 22:11:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dry lakes exist. Never heard of a dry stream though.
radministator ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 23:08:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dry streams too. Some are seasonal but perennial with a whole ecosystem of specialized life that depends on the dry period as much as the wet period.
kiss_the_kalashnikov ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:21:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah okay, never heard of a dry stream before. I'm assuming there is such a thing as abandoned water reservoirs that wouldn't have water anymore either.
gonna_splat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:29:19 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a village in Louisiana called Dry Prong, referring to a dry creek.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:54:20 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're commonly called Arroyos and are all over the Southwest. They fill with water for about a week and leave creekbeds with plants all around, but the trees live because there's almost continuous water flow underground
esadatari ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:36:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does a dry creek count? If so, woot.
Aerest ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:41:45 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You can wet my creek anytime ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:55:00 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ever been to California?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:22:58 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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crashdoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:25:14 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually really like how out in a lot if not all of the dry outback creeks and rivers the bed is all sand - it's nice and cool walking through the sand barefoot under cover of the overhanging branches of trees on the banks - unless there are no trees, in which case you've wandered too far and you're in the desert.
NotAllTeemos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:34 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is actually a specific word for a dry stream, it's called a "wash".
Tridian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:49 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've never heard of dry streams? They're probably more common than dry lakes. Seasonal things that flow when it rains for a few weeks/months and then dry up until next year.
VanderLegion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:07 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Theres dried up stream beds
CanadianDemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even dry states exist! Just look at California.
NZKr4zyK1w1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:36 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dry creeks all around Australia. They are empty as FUCK then suddnely BAM its like the renaissance of life.
thetheyyouhearabout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:54 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let us not forget about the fun little bundles of joy that are chemical lakes over various volcanic and "tectonically active" regions.
Junuxx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:05:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can't have found something in every lake if you haven't checked every lake.
worotan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, I thought he could say "every stream, lake and reservoir that has been tested" to stick to reporting facts.
ShiraCheshire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess it comes down to if you consider a dry riverbed or a river that only exists during certain times of the year to be a river. If you're counting winter only river, during the summer you won't find any of this extremely dangerous chemical in it.
Wrekked_it ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And referring to water as a "contaminant". That's pretty misleading.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:22 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's 14. Chill.
GrrrrrArrrrgh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:57 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Volcanic activity can produce lakes of Sulfuric acid. And there are lakes on other planets that have no water.
lejoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:08 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was 14
_TheKingJulian_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:36 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was 14 so I think I'll let it slip.
secretfolo154 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guys, he was 14. Give him a fucking break.
treebeardsbeard ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:15:22 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But you are dependent on water or else you'll die.
sysop073 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:08:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It also implies that water is a threat to the environment and needs to be banned. Implying the wrong thing without actually lying is the entire document
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:32 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is a threat due to erosion. It's not a pressing concern though, takes a long time.
jh139 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know? Mabye you only think that because your mother took it when she was pregnant..
Velln ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:29:32 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you depend on water to survive?
pfizer_soze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:35 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but I don't think I ever became dependent. I always was dependent.
fallouthirteen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:15 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you became dependent the moment you existed.
GhostBond ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:43 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
That's the point though. That's how ads / political rhetoric / sales / fear mongering do it. Imply everything imaginable without quite lying.
There's another article on reddit today doing this - *For men, the importance of safe sex depends on how hot their partner is * -
https://www.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/comments/4pam6a/for_men_the_importance_of_safe_sex_depends_on_how/
Reality is most likely that both women and men are less likely to use protection the hotter their partner is.
It implies that it's only men.
Thought technically it didn't say that. If you brought that up you'd undoubtedly get a response like "Well we didn't study women so we don't know.". What a giant coincidence it seems to imply otherwise! lol
paradox_backlash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. I was reading along fine, amused at the effort, and then seeing that line gave me pause....because it was, essentially, a lie, for that exact reason.
lordeddardstark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:19 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to do drugs. I still do but I used to too
robvya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:13 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people do get water dependant and get hooked like drugs. I think its called aquaholic. too much is no good.
prowlinghazard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:12 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. Yeah. That's the part that was misleading.
QuackPack2016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:37 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Calling it "pollution" is also a bit misleading.
MSG17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:19 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Organisms aren't dependent on water when they don't exist, so when they are brought into life, they become dependent
Hollywoodisburning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:57 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing the target audience was his peers
Creature3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:56 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We are dependent upon water . We depend on it for life , we are more than 3/4 water . To withdraw from it , as is moving away , is certain death . Not withdrawal as in addiction . It was written like that for a reason , it's part of the project .
Bradford_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:58 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you'd say we're all aquaholics then?
TheMusiKid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:57 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is technically correct because you become dependent on water the moment you are conceived
WetDogeSmell ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 20:43:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stick with brawndo
zhill29 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:55:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's got the electrolytes the body craves!
DMPancake ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:35:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
zhill29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:37 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't they say it my way at some point too? Forgive me, haven't seen it in a while.
DMPancake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:55:35 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you know what, you're right. They say both plants and bodies crave electrolytes. Forgive me, zhill, for I have sinned.
zhill29 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:08:09 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's alright, it's almost impossible to remember everything from such a documentary.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:25:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The THIRST MUTILATOR!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:05:23 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It has was plants crave...
jncostogo ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 22:26:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All glory to Immortum Joe!
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:07:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WHAT A LOVELY DAY!
GanyoBalkanski ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 20:50:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My world is fire and blood.
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:08:07 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The full scene is superb
my-stereo-heart ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:50:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water is the street name
BenStoked ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:03:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not addicted, I can quit anytime I want to.
Fluorescent_Void ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:22:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You will resent its absence!
Booty_Bumping ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:51:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/humor/humor_joke4.shtml
Subrotow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:10:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's inherited. Every living thing is addicted since birth.
Timst44 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:04:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if we are born unaddicted to water, but become addicted to it because our parents give it to us at an early age?
(My proposal for shittiest conspiracy theory)
alexanderfarkov ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:42:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"IMMORTAN JOE!!!" "HE LOOKED AT ME!"
turbohuk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:47:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
for those who didnt get it
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:21:13 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw your comment and googled the Immortan Joe quote to reply with. Except that is what you did. I didn't realize that was the quote.
I feel dumb.
Morse2111 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck water! Drink soda!
-interests ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:39:47 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
My cousin went to the hospital for DHMO withdrawals and they mainlined a bag of 60% DHMO solution right into her fucking veins
Electricpants ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:39:59 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mother's milk is better...
Jaumpasama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:07 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mediocre!
oedicoleus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:04:31 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do not develope a taste for water for you shall grow to resent it's absence
Austrinaut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:24:23 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tequila it is then.
pimpinassorlando ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:27:10 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water. Not even once.
Nanteitandaro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:03 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Especially its solid form, ice.
sentient_sasquatch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:06:54 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
relevant
Eckz89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:23 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DHMO SUCKS, Gatorade is better!
Gatoraaaade...
baibuhei ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:30:08 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Defo! I wanna sleep with water forever:))))))
Big_Bronco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:40 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who needs water when there's BEER!
esadatari ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:39:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's dirty wordplay, granted, but its also technically not an untruth, which still fits within their original hypothesis (but only just barely).
clgfangoneawry2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:30:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This part wasnt just a misleading statement, it was a lie, can we not afford to ignore it?
potterssuperhero ยท 469 points ยท Posted at 20:31:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kudos to that one kid that didn't tell anyone what it actually was.
blaccvincentvega ยท 138 points ยท Posted at 22:52:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He probably just watched everyone else lose their shits over it and died laughing with the other kid. Come to think of it, maybe he was in on it the whole time...
JohnFest ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 22:50:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Da real MVP
BigJacobG ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:20:59 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha beat me too it
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:50:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, kids can't keep secrets at all. They hear something and have to repeat it ad infinum
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:08:09 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This one was playing the long con.
LeiningensAnts ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:03:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who used to be that one kid, nothing would have stopped them. Either he was that one kid, which is totally plausible, or the school honestly didn't have any (other?) kids whose parents knew enough basic chemistry lingo to make that joke at the dinner table. I think I heard it from my dad in 1990 or there-abouts.
I mean, the joke isn't as old as water, or shockingly uneducated adults, but it's gotta be as old as molecular chemistry.
PlymouthSea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/121089/3711634-3237843029-tumbl.gif
CaptainFourpack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:53 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That one kid may have been the experimentor herself, given the low age of the project, she may not have had to remain "blind"
detlefsa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:18 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably the one kid that looked it up
the_black_panther_ ยท 1170 points ยท Posted at 20:08:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, that kid's wasting his talent. He'd be the greatest shitposter of all time if he did stuff like that on reddit
Jyben ยท 329 points ยท Posted at 20:49:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He could be the greatest politician ever.
[deleted] ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 21:15:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Better than both candidates combined, although that describes almost everyone.
Shadrach451 ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 23:12:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That child's name? Donald Clinton.
AssAssIn46 ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 23:52:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
KILL IT WITH DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
ChristianKS94 ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 00:22:08 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
KILL IT BEFORE IT LAYS WALLS!
Shadow87 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 01:04:11 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
KILL IT BEFORE IT DELETES EMAILS!
InsanityMuffin ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:37:47 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
KILL IT BEFORE IT DELETES WALLS!
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:15:49 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
KILL IT BEFORE IT LAYS EMAILS!
AssAssIn46 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:47:19 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
KILL IT BEFORE IT TAKES BRIBES FROM THE SAUDIS TO BUILD WALLS BUT STILL MAKES THE MEXICANS PAY FOR IT!
GodOfPlutonium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:28 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
KILL IT BEFORE IT WALLS EMAILS
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:36 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
KILL IT BEFORE IT LAYS SHEMALES!
dfhghdhdghgh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:17:56 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Easy there, Ted Kennedy
Kerrigore ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:42:32 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Better than Hillary Trump.
Or maybe Donnary Trumton? Or Hillald Clump?
Zebezd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:32:25 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since we're combining names, I can't help but read your user name as The combined last names of Sarah Kerrigan and Al Gore.
Kerrigore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:24 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What, not John Kerry and Al Gore?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:58:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey man, don't write off Vermin Supreme yet.
SgtBrowncoat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:36:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Two negatives only make a positive in multiplication, not addition.
OrneryOldFuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:52 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a bar set so low I'm starting to think this is less pole vault and more limbo.
brownPoopsicle ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 23:13:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trump is the best we've had in decades
ChristianKS94 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:23:04 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, he has the best words and he don't have no problem with his dick.
JetStreakMusic ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget the libertarians please
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:06:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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OrneryOldFuck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:36 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am libertarian. Can confirm.
sunburntredneck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:19 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THE LIBERTARIANS PLEASE
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:54:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL Politics and shitposting are pretty much the same thing
Aponthis ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:26:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trump has proven that these are the same thing.
waltjrimmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a difference?
audiosemipro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That boys name? George Bush
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:16 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These days, those two are one and the same
midnight_toker22 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:25:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think Fox News already hired him.
QueequegTheater ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 21:00:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
How do you know he isn't doing that?
strapped_for_cash ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:05:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That kid is prolly in his 30's now
45b16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
33 in fact
whoiam06 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:32:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if he's /u/_vargas_ or the eponymous troll poster /r/KenM
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Theres always smart people that would abolish his ideas everytime, though.
fnonpm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The main idea is tricking enough of the population to agree with you and dismiss the smart people's claim (kinda how politicians dealt with climate change in the past).
Pacman97 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That shitposter's name?
Albert Unidan
AimanSuhaimi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He might be on reddit too. The kid should be in his early 30s by now.
mtbha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe he already is?!
Currywurst000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think its plaigerized. The kid wasnt that smart . I imagine he copied a joke website that was already in existance at the time
Woofaira ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean that kid is what, 33 now? He's probably OP.
radministator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL shitposter is the internet equivalent of a politician.
linuxhanja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how do you know that kid didn't grow up to be Unidan ?
Gavriloshandgun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plot twist: that's Ciswhitemaelstrom
40inmyfordfiesta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:24 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That "kid" is like 33 now.
MayonnaiseOreo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:48 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think he's a kid anymore.
SephyJR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, of course, he is "wasting" his talent by not shitposting here...*sigh *
_JackDoe_ ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 21:10:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
He didn't write any of this.Nevermind I was wrong.Grimorg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:27:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That website was created after Zohner's science fair, and is based off of it.
spwncar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:46:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, link the website that was created 2 years after the Science Fair in this post
_JackDoe_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh sorry.
supposedlyatwork ยท 376 points ยท Posted at 19:17:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am curious as to why it is "almost every"... is there actually one that doesn't have it?
EunuchNinja ยท 974 points ยท Posted at 19:29:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is an empty lake still a lake?
Foxyfox- ยท 596 points ยท Posted at 20:01:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get out of here, Jaden.
Maraudershields7 ยท 247 points ยท Posted at 20:48:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How Can I Get Out Of Here If Here Doesn't Exist?
Ryanmjesus ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:27:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I WISH JADEN SMITH WAS MY SON!
xxxSEXCOCKxxx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:23:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason I read this in Jerry's voice from rick and morty (the father of main kid). His voice actor is also the narrator on a kids cartoon called Word Girl.
blaccvincentvega ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:54:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I thought I recognized his voice from somewhere. The narrator was the best part about that show to me.
xxxSEXCOCKxxx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:26:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, I laughed my ass off at just about everything in that show. I am not sure what it is. I think the voice actor for Squanchy from R&M also did a cameo on Word Girl. And Archer/Bob Burger guy. What the shit is up with word girl and having voice actors from other cartoons I like
blaccvincentvega ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure Prof. Twobrains was voiced by the same guy as Squanchy, but i don't know who H. Jon Benjamin played
xxxSEXCOCKxxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._Jon_Benjamin
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1128052/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast
And you're right about 2brains and squanchy; they were both voiced by Tom Kenny! Spongebob! And now all I can imagine is Spongebob... *shudders* squanching!
Some more R&M clips, cause I'm on youtube:
https://youtu.be/qA15dUNe2z8
https://youtu.be/qA15dUNe2z8
https://youtu.be/t5u4acKP_p0
blaccvincentvega ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:19 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck, a lot of my favorite voice actors AND regular actors were in that show! That explains why it was so great!
orbital667 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:17:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-checks existential map- Good news!
spgns ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:37:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"What good are 'checks', if anyone with decent hand dexterity and ill will can simply forge them?"
"What good is existentialism if philosophers are often intellectually dishonest and fallacious?"
"What good are 'maps' if 'time is a flat circle'?"
"What good are hyphens if they sound kind of like 'hymens', which frequently have direct associations with child abuse scandals?"
"What does 'good' even mean, if you really think about it?"
"What good is 'news' if the media is controlled by false flags and leopard-people from the UnderDomain beneath the singularity?"
All of these are important questions, which will most likely be asked by Jaden within the next few months. If you were smart like him, you would realize your question has so meaning, and ~dramatic pause~ neither do YOU.
: p
panamaspace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tend to go for so so meaning questions myself, but sometimes you come up short.
spgns ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:04:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Typos are my way of finding meaning in this illusion that we call our Univrese. Without breaking through our lexical boundaries, we are bound to be bound by metaphysical bondage. You probably aren't deep enough to understand. ~scoffs dismissively~ etc
:p
DefinitelyNotDarius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:31 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then you could never have been there to begin with.
838h920 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:02:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It'll still have some of it left... I mean even the air has it inside, so a dry lake will still ahve some dihydrogen monoxide.
The "almost every" is just there to make it look more real. If it was said "every", then people would doubt it.
fckingmiracles ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:55:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yupp, the text is made to mislead people really.
TheSS_Minnow_Johnson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:23:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, I'm just going to reword your post and say that the words were intentionally misleading.
fckingmiracles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would say so too. I pointed out an example here now.
blaccvincentvega ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that was the whole point of his experiment?
TheSS_Minnow_Johnson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was. I was just doing that thing where someone rewords the comment they are replying to and doesn't add anything of value to the discussion, but I did it as a reply to someone who just did that.
blaccvincentvega ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, I see that now.
thedrew ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
China Lake is a military base.
MOIST_MAN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:30:43 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure there's DHMO there too
thedrew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:23 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be so sure. Spend too much time there, and you may need to change your screen name.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:20:59 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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EunuchNinja ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:47:49 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Much appreciated. To be honest, I was mainly going for a David Duchovny feel when he asked "What are frogs?" on Jeopardy.
Jewronimoses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nah its just a hole in the ground.
suoarski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeh, we have salt lakes here in Australia.
fuckingminotaur ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 19:59:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Methane lakes under DMHO deposits wouldn't be contaminated I think. Anyone correct me?
Xoebe ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:14:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Methane clathrate is actually methane that has been trapped in a structure made of crystallized DHMO, and is relatively common on Earth. It's possible to have pure methane lakes under layers of pure solid DHMO, but I think formations like that are extraterrestrial.
shieldvexor ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:23:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Correct, no such formations of pure methane lakes have been found on Earth and none are expected to be found. Their existence in extraterrestrial environments is due to the extreme cold resulting in them condensing.
E4tabrizi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:25 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Made me think of this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limnic_eruption
ImWritingABook ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 19:58:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would have gone with "essentially every" which casually reads the same way but can be a pun that the essence of your average stream, etc., is water
SirNoName ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:42:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And as we all know, moisture is the essence of wetness
LongDickSword ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can I get a special thanks at the end of your book?
clgfangoneawry2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you explain that to me?
thetheyyouhearabout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:37 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A 14 y/o wouldn't normally be at such a Dad level as to slip such a savvy pun into a stream of consciousness. There's too great a gulf between appreciation of the pun and victimhood at that age, although I imagine he'd currently be far more appreciative of the art, and might even meander back through his notes and bemoan missed opportunities. Anyway, I've spent enough time wading through these posts, so I'll see you all later.
tehlou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:29:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reservoirs with other substances?
MachoMundo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:02:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A stream can be a "continuous flow of liquid, air, or gas", a lake can be a "large surplus of a liquid commodity", and a reservoir can be a "place where fluid collects".
It's not necessarily referring to water.
KnightDuty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This one!
djc6535 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:20:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Los Angeles River
Kingbuji ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"River"
djc6535 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, sometimes it has water in it
Usually it's just Terminators though...
foryoursafety ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Salt lake
RelevantCommentary ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many seasonally dry streams and even some rivers are scattered throughout North America and are especially common in the midwest.
elriggo44 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because it makes it sound more dangerous, insidious and pervasive. It's also "true" in that almost every stream does contain water. The rest of them do too. But that means almost all of them definitely do.
W92Baj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dry river beds dont have any
Hurricane_Viking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm there is some small stream somewhere that is 100% fish piss.
veggiter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The word reservoir and its contents can be interpreted in more than one way, so that creates enough wiggle room for "almost every" to work.
RugbyAndBeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has every stream, lake, or reservoir actually been tested to show it's water? Maybe one is really ethanol and no one checked.
cheesegoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kevin looked in that one stream and couldn't find any
The_Power_Of_Three ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably all lakes and streams would need it to even qualify as such, but there are surely a couple of dry, empty reservoirs somewhere
Forma313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Salt lakes and lava streams.
VectorLightning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Using a loose definition, yes. Lava flows in Hawaii. Also natural gas pipelines
dao2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was being conscious and included California.
StoicStroke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A stream of lava
buzzbros2002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Greetings from Southern California. Please send water.
Atario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of them haven't been tested
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Arizona we have dry rivers all over the place only time there is water in them is after a heavy rain most of the year they are dry as a bone
wdmc2008 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are 3 classes of streams: perennial, intermittent, and ephemeral. Only the perennial has water flowing year-round.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_stream
aegiskid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They all have dihydrogen monoxide, it just hasn't been found in all of them.
TALLmidget16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't matter it's not a lie if you take the definition of lakes, streams, etc. as being bodies of water. DMHO is in nearly every lake, stream, etc. It's also in the rest of the streams not included in nearly every stream but that's not important.
suoarski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are salt lakes here in Australia that don't have water in them.
Chubby_Rapeseed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ancient earth used to have methane rivers and lakes IIRC.
Aromadegym ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bet a lake of molten lava is almost free of water.
Moose_And_Squirrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:45 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not from the southwest USA, are you? Most rivers streams and lakes in, say the Mojave Desert are dry.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:34 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Salt lakes
RankyPants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:11 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lakes of.. methane? On that.. big planet?
KanadainKanada ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:29 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one has checked all.
moal09 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dry lakes/streams exist
fckingmiracles ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:32:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah, there is a lot of on-purpose bullshitting in this text to mislead people, in this case teenagers.
See an example further down for instance.
MCradi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:49:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it bullshitting if it's factual?
WhatTheFive ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:08:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it a fact that the american government said "importance to the economic health of this nation" was the reason they wouldn't ban water? Putting that in quotes was bullshitting.
DrDew00 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:06:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The best bullshitters are the ones who do it without lying.
fckingmiracles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The text isn't factual if you read it carefully though. For instance the text was constructed to say: "But the pollution is global [...]".
That's a direct attempt at misleading the reader. Water isn't polluting the world, it is an intrinsic and literally basic substance of it. It's by definition the opposite of pollution. Pollution is something non-belonging that man added to the natural state of being. Water has been in nature before men so it can't be pollution. See here:
Or
Salty_Kennen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but the colloquial word "pollution" doesn't infer contamination.
fckingmiracles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It infers an added, man-made effect. That's what the definitions have in common as far as I can tell.
Beta-7 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:44:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember seeing a video of a guy that was at a man-made lake but instead of water the lake had some acid in it because of the minerals close to it.
abisco_busca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Almost all acids are solutions of the acid and water.
bitoku_no_ookami ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 21:06:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The student, Nathan, didn't write this he just provided it to the other students. It came from Craig Jackson's site published earlier: archived version.
Still good on Nathan for showing the importance of verifying information and the effects of misinformation.
Jeremy_Winn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:48:32 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was gonna say... Any 14 year old who writes like this should skip straight to college.
SgtDoakesLives ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 20:10:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Surely most of the students that he gave this to were youngsters with no chemistry exposure, right? A random population of high schoolers would have more than 2% that realize what dihydrogen monoxide really is.
EDIT: typo
demonicpigg ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 20:39:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I took chemistry in 11th grade. I would assume by classmates that means people the same age, and seeing as a 14 year old is likely to be in 8/9/10th grade, it's likely they've not had a chemistry class yet.
Even if they have, it's plausible they wouldn't notice anyway as dihydrogen monoxide is said only once. This leaves you a very low amount of time to catch on to the "trick".
Iknowr1te ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 22:11:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would have shifted straight to hydroxl acid in the first paragraph to up the scare value.
then just call it hydroxyl acid the entire time.
Gorfoo ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:44:59 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alternatively, just "DHMO". Acronyms are scary.
VeriFunni ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:06:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also similar to "GMO" which gets a lot of bad rap in media and so they would might be more afraid of "-MO"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also similar to "HMO" and mine is scary.
Tactical_Moonstone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:23:17 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer hydrogen hydroxide though.
thebluecrab ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:14:45 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It should be hydroxic acid not hydroxyl acid
abaddamn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:02 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hydroxilic acid?
abaddamn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:45:29 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hydrogen hydroxide?
E4tabrizi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:00 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
in all fairness you cant. Water always fluctuates between OH-, H20 and H20+ by a process called self ionization, or something like that. To call it acid is incorrect but you can call water and acid and a base at the same time.
pizzahedron ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:43:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i counted it five times.
VyRe40 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:16:48 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I studied basic sciences in middle school, including some simple chemistry (H2O, what it means, etc.). This was at a state curricular level and federal level (changed schools when I moved overseas).
However, I feel this may better demonstrate how people may be predisposed to a lack of personal research effort. A lot of people learn current issues from the news, and modern news is fraught with misinformation and bias.
Then again, these are just kids. An interesting demonstration, but something similar may not apply as effectively on an adult population.
*But then again...
Scuwr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:43:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It could be dependent on the school. I took Chemistry in the 10th grade. Also, he could have started school early or skipped a grade. I graduated highschool at 17, and there are plenty of stories of kids graduating even younger than that. His "peers" could have easily been 11th graders.
CookieTheSlayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't 17 the normal age to graduate at?
Scuwr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, I probably should have said that I was 17.5 when I graduated and hence started my senior year when I was 16. Plus I lived in Texas, so it was normal for people to graduate as late as 19. I was definitely the baby of my class.
Brandperic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's 17 or 18 depending on when you were born
Iknowr1te ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was so happy I was legal to drink during my grad (18, Alberta). made the night great.
E4tabrizi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:13 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
doesn't that just take all the fun away?! I found that I went to less bars and drank less after I turned 21... Minus the yearly slip binge.
jcoolwater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can buy a cigar here in the US! (Except California)
Brandperic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:06 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except in quite a few states actually
jcoolwater ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 22:43:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can buy a cigar here in the US! (Except California)
LumberJackFuckFest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He says it more than once, js.
ttderrer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Monoxide is such a tinny word.
snkifador ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Assuming that is in the US, that is mind blowing. We have chemistry starting from the 7th in Portugal
PM_yoursmalltits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:09 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well shit, I'm in college and still haven't taken a chemistry class
demonicpigg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:40 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't feel bad, literally the only use I've had for chemistry since I took it in high school was the 3 college credits it counted for. Oh, and maybe the dihydrogen monoxide thing. Other than that, unless you're going into the field, or a related field, it's almost useless.
DaddyCatALSO ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 20:37:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or some could have been playing along for the sake of the humorous conclusion
pizzahedron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yep, i would vote to ban water after reading that.
nospecialhurry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have a lot of misplaced faith in people. I'd be surprised if 6 out of 10 people could correctly identify that a water molecule is two hydrogen and one oxygen. Oh, they might know "H20" but they may think that say it's two oxygen or that they've forgotten what "H20" actually stands for. Dihydrogen monoxide would sound totally foreign.
DaddyCatALSO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:52:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I said "some."
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Kaigamer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even know what Dihydrogen monoxide was until I googled it after seeing the OP title.
I'm in Uni right now.
Admittedly, I had a vague suspicion it was something relative mundane.
black_balloons ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The point of the experiment was to show how using true facts could mislead the ignorant, so he kind of needed people to not know what dhmo is. To be honest, I think it would trick a lot of adults too unless they worked in a chemistry related occupation.
sioux612 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When we think about it it certainly is obvious.
But some won't kown what di stands for even if theyd know the rest, some don't listen all that well until we get to the part how dangerous it is
I don't know if he used the full form the entire time or if he shortened it to dhmo while talking, because abbreviations sound evil so that helps
I find it more surpassing that the one kid didn't tell even a single other kid
rizabetch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A couple of years ago my teacher played the same trick on us, although I think he said it was him that came up with the idea. The point was made, however, and the majority bought it even though we were a high-school level chemistry class.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plenty or concerned adults - I would assume a few at least had some skoolin' - have fallen for this. Dihydrogen Monoxide hoax
Loved Penn and Teller's version where they passed a petition to ban on Earth Day
Typhus_black ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While the kids this was done on likely hadn't had chemistry yet the average person probably wouldn't pick up on it either since they haven't taken chemistry in forever.
kingjoey52a ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know Penn and Teller did something on this where they had someone gathering signatures for a ban on DHMO and a bunch of people signed.
tweakingforjesus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:10 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just like the adults with very little knowledge of science being frightened by scary chemical names in their food. They sound like a perfectly reasonable population for the study.
kitkatpandatat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:02 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did something similar in high school. Teachers freaking signed my "petition." Pretty sure my chemistry teacher had a few drinks that night when she saw who all had signed it. Youd be amazed what people will actually sign. Also, look up the politician who built his entire campaign on banning dihydrogen monoxide.
E4tabrizi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:24 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not knowing is okay, the number of people who jumped on board too ban it is not.
awkward_penguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:18 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the point of this project was to show that given the right facts about anything, you could get people to oppose it - you just have to call it a different name. Not whether they were smart enough to recognize that Dihydrogen Monoxide is water.
Currywurst000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:38 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wiki says this joke, and a joke website existed prior to this kid entering. Im guessing the speal, and the idea is plaigerized from the website ( they didnt check school kids projects in those days )
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the point wasn't to show that they didn't know what he was talking about. it was to show that true facts about a particular topic could be used to lead a group of uninformed subjects to a false conclusion about that topic.
davethegamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:14 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's likely he didn't give it to a class a high schoolers but instead middle schoolers since middle school ranges from 11-14 (occasionally 15).
feeltheslipstream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:52 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I encountered this in uni, and didn't figure out it was water till I finished the whole thing. My gf didn't figure it out at all.
People generally don't piece together a write down the molecule to see what it looks like. The only reason I did it was because I was skeptical of the claims.
RelevantCommentary ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:34:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just replace DHMO with JEWS and you can almost see how hitler did it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:43 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jews are found in nearly every body of water?
Withdrawal of Jews causes death?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:59:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus was a Jew. The Jehova's witnesses dropped off some material that said you can get "eternal life" if I follow him and their religion, implying that you'll never die. Therefore, withdrawal of Jew = death
RelevantCommentary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you very well know the truth about Jews.
Watercolour ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:53:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost like a riddle that only one kid solved.
solidspacedragon ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:14:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, this is hilarious!
I would have loved to have been in that class XD
BeARdBARIAN ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:09:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Genius writing right there.
Reese_Tora ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:23:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If only this were still true...
PumkinPi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he's hinting at the lack of water killing plants
Reese_Tora ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:10 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
actually, in context of the time that was written, I believe we were getting hit by mudslides, flash flooding, and in general the fact that many buildings in SoCal often are not prepared to receive lots of rain due to either design, or lack of maintenance.
ktikp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So there are some streams and lakes without water ?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:05:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Generally dried up bodies of water are still bodies for the water. An empty reservoir is still a reservoir.
BForBandana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are 5 lakes made of lava on the planet if I recall correctly, one of them being the "Gateway to Hell" or Erta Ale in the Afar region of Ethiopia.
I_FART_OUT_MY_BUTT69 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:43:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
streams lakes and rivers aren't 100% water
Thebatmann58 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does this kid watch Penn and teller: bullshit?
jcelflo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:02 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a really impressive piece of propaganda. Especially from the hands of a 14 years old.
Kwalm0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:14:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Major companies have been bottling and selling this chemical claiming health benefits
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All produce is contaminated, but only certain junk foods.
MrWigglesworth2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Immortan Joe was right!
nogueyjose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, "uncounted thousands." So, maybe none?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. Took a pretty standard troll method and really went the extra mile
FatherSquee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Don't get addicted to dihydrogen monoxide!"
dbledutchs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does anyone else see the bilateral amputee bending over in a semi thong?
TheEmeraldArcher455 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sold! Burn it all
petscii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's listed as an ingredient in multiple forms of torture.
Also fish go to the bathroom in it. :shudders:
onlyhumans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trolling, before it was cool.
chadkaplowski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is an impressive 14 year old vocabulary and writing style
ProtoKun7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This takes me back; I remember when I first read about this years ago. Really enjoyed how he phrased everything.
Currywurst000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I get a strange feeling reading this that this is made up....
Ahh he plaigerized this speal...
Fromaniac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite take on it is "it is a primary ingredient used in public swimming pools"
Mrthrowaway1993 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man this kid's right. Fuck water!
commando_boner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of my ex's favorite movie, Like Dihydrogen Monoxide for Theobroma Cacao
Endless__Throwaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
California checking in, my state must have bought into his project because there's no dihydrogen monoxide here.
I_Xertz_Tittynopes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% of people who ingest Dihydrogen Monoxide die. Shit's serious, yo.
vaelux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do not, my friends, become addicted to water. It will take hold of you, and you will regret its absence.
Spore2012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly the type of thing I bring up whenever I talk to one of those all natural ban GMO idiots.
Dr_Amalgam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You think dihydrogen monoxide is bad? Just wait until you hear about oxidane. It's found as an end product in combustion reactions and its residues end up in almost all our foods and liquids. On December 26, 2004, an oxidane chemical spill killed an estimated 250,000 in Indonesia.
croomsy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An then, after receiving the prize, the 43 people who had been made to look like fools by him exacted their revenge every day for the next four years of high school.
Abandoned_karma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Almost every lake and stream? Pretty sure all lakes and streams contain it.
aurorazephyrus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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KozaPeluda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone should post this on Facebook and see how many people fall for it.
noSoupp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That last part lol!
ManaTroll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out
Dolantheducktrump ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:30 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ignorance is bliss
lordeddardstark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:10 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scientists have also found DHMO on Mars
Seakawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:25 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's sad is that this isn't exclusive to kids.
I'd bet a lot of money that you'd get significantly similar results from adults. And if not with this example, then absolutely similar examples (vaccines/autism, fossils/evolution, geography/ancient world flood, etc).
demiankz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:30 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is such a great experiment, but why'd the kid lie about some things?
Water doesn't contaminate or pollute the world. Over-ingestion of water produces those symptoms. Arctic ice IS water.
The weird thing is, he didn't even need to lie. He had plenty of other facts to make his case.
Whatevs. Still a fun story.
solepsis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol
bustaflow25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:49 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is sooooo cool.
bongarong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:54 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely an interesting project. Really cool idea! I'd say this is less a pure use of truthful facts, and more a use of truthful and stretched truthful facts. I wonder what the results would have been had the project not confused subjects on purpose to trick the reader. This was also a 14 year old's project, and I'm not sure how many 14 year olds would know chemical symbol words. I'd say this has given evidence that if you stretch the truth, but still never technically lie, and present these pieces of information to readers who are completely uneducated on the topic, you can convince them to your point. But I would think that to be common sense. Just playing devils advocate here. Again, really neat project!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could you expand on the line "utilize it during warfare situations". Do you mean water directly or water as an ingredient in explosives or something?
astuteobservor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:10 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so 80+% sheep stat is correct.
flying87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly I truly wonder if this would work in Congress.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:47 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only one recognized it? Did they not just read the formula as two hydrogens and an oxide?
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outtsider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:57 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would DHMO be considered a chemical though? He calls it a chemical
rowdybme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:39 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget as a torture device for humans
Hpa511 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didnt knew water was so bad for us.
E4tabrizi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:12 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No Inhalation Warnings?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:33 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my science teachers gave us this. I was rather shocked by how many people it actually tricked
agent-99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:45 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
where is Nathan Zohner now?
JoXand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:39 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... how does water cause burns? I always see the pictures with apply water to burned area...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:43 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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JoXand ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:54:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...I am an idiot.
Thesageofperviness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Send that to Congress and the U.S will die of dehydration
xxmindtrickxx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:19:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was the only friend in his class and he secretly told him and he decided to pretend he was "smarter" than everyone because he knew the answer. They later high-fived each other and everyone continued to ignore them as human beings.
BangedYourMum ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im using this in as chem and gonna see the reaction
DoesCheckOut ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:34:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out.
ohbillywhatyoudo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:26:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, is this what TIL has degraded into? Some dumb clickbait article about a joke that my chemistry teacher made long before this idiot teenager ever made it? Who cares?
TIL shitpost of the year right here.
randomjamesjoyce ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:31:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To remember that and the white look of the lavatory made him feel cold and then hot. There were two cocks that you turned and water came out: cold and hot. He felt cold and then a little hot: and he could see the names printed on the cocks. That was a very queer thing.
God_loves_irony ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:57:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, he crammed it with true but misleadingly worded information and was able to fool children?... okay. I don't think we're all really secretly idiots because this hoax occasionally gains some press, I think we are all really secretly idiots because of the amount of back patting we give ourselves for spotting the joke.
Alex1Trebek ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:41:59 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flamewall26 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:53:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A kid's Dad fooled a bunch of 14 year olds, Reddit upvotes it to the front page. This actually explains a lot.
klasspirate ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:07:03 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well written daddy...?
devilsephiroth ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:29:11 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This kid fucking killed it!!!! That is so fake it's legitimate
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:01:42 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A cool project but:
Is just nonsense, but likely a large part of people saying "Hey we want to ban it" because death.
No one "becomes" dependent.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:24 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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You don't "become" dependent on water, it is the natural state of things. You don't did from withdraw symptoms, you die from dehydration.
This claim moves his project of "true fact about water" into "disingenuous"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:07:41 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:58 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the other things aren't basically lies. The point is convincing people of bullshit with true facts. Not convincing people of bullshit with bullshit.
FuckCazadors ยท 3324 points ยท Posted at 17:44:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% of people who consume Dihydrogen Monoxide end up dead.
bobbyjrsc ยท 1443 points ยท Posted at 17:55:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not only dead, but 100% of people with cancer consumed dihydrogen monoxide before
FuckCazadors ยท 595 points ยท Posted at 17:57:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's frightening. Not only can too little Dihydrogen Monoxide kill you, too much can as well. It's just not worth the risk.
phisherman77 ยท 281 points ยท Posted at 18:16:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So whiskey neat, then?
BigFatBlackMan ยท 356 points ยท Posted at 18:26:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You might be horrified to find out that most whiskey consists of at least 50% hydrogen hydroxide
kylepierce11 ยท 184 points ยท Posted at 18:48:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everclear is the safest drink on earth.
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xjeeper ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 19:28:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's what plants crave!
Zalpha ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:36:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's got electrolytes!
blaccvincentvega ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its what Uncle Rick craves too!
JoXand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:00 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What would really happen if you add alcohol to plants (in addition with water, of course)?
kamgar ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:46:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
then again, trying to make it at home is an easy way to get methanol poisoning in the first place...
PlymouthSea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what the alcohol is for ;)
zeeveener ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:27:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go on...
wytrabbit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:20:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But does it give me wings?
_-reddit- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where can I get this "Everclear"?
bofdee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Easy then, replace DHMO with everclear
xPofsx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually would not be opposed to this so long as they used only a 1/100 ratio of everclear to water/beverages. I like everclear straight and im not russian or whoever the fuck makes it
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know everclear isn't pure alcohol, right?
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:49:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brought to you by Everclear.
DubiousDude28 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 18:58:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We can live beside the ocean...
killahgrag ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:01:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Leave the fire behind.
JoeHook ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:08:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drink the whole damn handle,
And watch the world go blind.
Shaysdays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:46 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's a handle? I'm assuming from context you mean "bottle," is that a collocialism?
gorckat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1.75L or 1/2 gallon, named due to the handles often on bottles of liquor that size.
Shaysdays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL, thank you!
nalydpsycho ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:21:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Swim out past the breakers
acloudbuster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you not learn anything about DHMO?! Stay out of the water!
BW_Bird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It will buy you a new house!
zilfondel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember them playing for an Earl Blumenauer campaign at UO back in 2001.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Moonshine.
Synexis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everclear is essentially professionally-made moonshine. Because traditional moonshine is home-brewed, it does not have a standard alcohol-by-volume (ABV) attribute, but most methods probably only yield somewhere between 40 and 70% ABV. The upper limit for ethanol distillation bound by physics is 95.63% (azeotropic distillation would be required for anything higher). Everclear is 95% (although there is also a 75% version for US states that either prohibit the sale of industrial alcohol as a beverage, or that require buyers to obtain a special permit to purchase it).
Paradigmist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Considering the most common additive used to break the water-ethanol azeotrope for lab ethanol is benzene, I don't really mind having 5% water in my everclear.
TheDudeNeverBowls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg, I'm going to be sick...
0000010000000101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard it's also high in hydroxyethane and that can make you lose your memory, go blind and die!
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what's better. Under or over exposure?
suttin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:32:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mild under exposure can give you kidney stones, mild over exposure makes you pee more.
What do you want coming out of your dick?
zyra_main ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:35:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gatorade
s6r1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:40:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
rainbows
AlonzoMoseley ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends who's on the receiving end.
rochambeau ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:44:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact, on the set of The African Queen, the entire cast and crew got horribly sick from consuming the native water. All except Humphrey Bogart, who drank nothing but whiskey the whole time.
The740 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mandrake, have you ever seen a commie drink a glass of water?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ever seen a commie drink water?
Almostana ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 18:15:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But if we ban it, we'll die from under exposure. WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THIS HORRIBLE SUBSTANCE
makeyoubutter ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 18:30:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure it's organic, duh!
NotThisFucker ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 18:38:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is quite the conundrum, because dihydrogen monoxide is by nature not organic
hostile65 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:09:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also used in growing GMO crops!
Youre-In-Trouble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the top component of acid rain.
Whispering_Shadows ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:12:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BP tried to fix that.
iwantogofishing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:18:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You technically clever monkey! The best kind of monkey.
cowbellhero81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not with that attitude
__RelevantUsername__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What scares me the most is that it is a chemical. We all know chemicals are bad /s
dank_imagemacro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:10 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does that mean it should be banned from organic crop production? I could get behind that.
JoeHook ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:10:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure it is. Doesn't dihydrogen monoxide come from little space bears or something? Did I mix up my facts?
E4tabrizi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:18 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yea... all our water came from the asteroid belt.
tym0 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:38:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But it's full of chemicals though.
kluvin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:00:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, as long as you get organic water you should be safe.
lycoshmyco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry. It's inorganic.
AssAssIn46 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can't lock up the reservoirs.
inksday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:17 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If we're going to have to drink it I prefer it be gluten free.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:16 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And gluten free!
blackmagemasta ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:35:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I vote we kill some brown people. That always helps me cope with my problems.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:18:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, a mother's body transfers dihydrogen monoxide to the baby in order to keep it alive and healthy during pregnancy. It even helps in the growth of the child. At least our biology knows how to process it in a non lethal fashion.
FuzzySAM ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:21:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but it's also used in pools to keep the correct chemical balance, along with bleach.
AgelastiCachinnation ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:40:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait.. Are you telling me the reason we have water in pools is not so we can swim in it, but so it can correct chemical balance?
FuzzySAM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get the fuck out of here with that water shit, man! Hydroxic acid and chlorine are used to correct the chemical balance, water is the part you swim in!
MeatyLoafr ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:11:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually you swim in all of it mixed together.
FuzzySAM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whoosh.
mfb- ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:20:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, if you use it once you'll need it for the rest of your life.
Abraxas514 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:22:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
WAKE UP SHEEPLE! WHY WOULD "DIE" BE IN THE NAME IF IT WAS GOOD FOR YOU???
NotThisFucker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well shit.
Guess I need a better way to roll on board game night.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you're saying that you'd prefer to die from too little, as opposed to too much. Got it.
AFineDayForScience ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that nearly 4,000 people drown in dihydrogen monoxide every year. Dihydrogen monoxide, the silent killer
Chebinger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All known serial killers consumed Dihydrogen Monoxide before, during AND after their killing sprees!
szlachta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As hold your wee for a Wii has proven.
spideranansi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those aliens from the movie Signs were exposed to Dihydrogen Monoxide and look what happened to them.
xScarfacex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:32 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard that simply inhaling dihydrogen monoxide kills you.
Bwgmon ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 18:35:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, 100% of murderers and rapists have admitted to taking Dihydrogen Monoxide.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:40:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Murasasme ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:39:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But 100% of the people that have sex with super models also consume dihydrogen monoxide, it's all about risk assesment.
kyew ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:29:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One study found that cancer cells can be up to 79% dihydrogen monoxide by weight.
alflup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% of cancer survivors also consumed large amounts of dihydrogen monoxide.
CuteThingsAndLove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% of all murderers were consuming dihydrogen monoxide before they committed their first murder
AyeAyeLtd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Studies show that if you avoid Dihydrogen Monoxide, your risk of getting cancer just about disappears.
hokiedokie18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about still births?
Ubergeeek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not exactly 100%. People don't drink water for at least the first few months of their life
fastbeemer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
California should label that chemical!
mcdok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dihydrogen monoxide has actually been scientifically proven to facilitate and promote cancer cells in more than 84% of all recorded cancer cases.
MathMaddox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not only THAT but almost all deceased people had consumed dihydrogen monoxide within 24hrs of thier demise.
lukelnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I better stop drinking water. But it's probably too late :( I'll probably be dead in about five days
iamsmilebot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:)
i am a bot, and i want to make you happy again
5hazz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's double the trickery. Even if you don't know what dihydrogen monoxide is, you still shouldn't think much of that statement. There are tons of things that everyone who has cancer has consumed, it doesn't necessarily mean those things are the cause for cancer.
WaitWhatting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also dihydrogen monoxide is related to someone sticking his dick on your butt!!
Mandosquirrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not only that, but doctors forced cancer patients to take doses of dihydrogen monoxide during treatment.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is why I drink CH3CH2OH only.
brent0935 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:04 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This product is know to cause cancer in the state of California
JoXand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:22 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about terminal illnesses?
TheYang ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
have no babies with cancer been born?
or does the mother consuming it count?
Ask_Me_Who ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 18:28:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not just them. Every murderer and terrorist in history has consumed Dihydrogen Monoxide. Usually in the hours immediately preceding their crimes.
FuckCazadors ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 18:32:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The victims too.
Do you want to be murdered? No? Then stay away from this poison.
Ksevio ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 18:29:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More like 93% - but people in the 7% are predicted to end up dead.
dryerlintcompelsyou ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 18:51:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, the current people alive make up 7% of all humans ever? That's insane
xeio87 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:23:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not too surprising when you learn the global population has essentially doubled in the last 50 years.
Medical advances are dope.
no_YOURE_sexy ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 22:01:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In a few states, literally.
jay791 ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 21:34:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's easy access to food, not medical advances.
Metalmind123 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:50:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That woulldn't be worth much without reduced childhood mortality.
Intnop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:31:39 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's due to the advancements from the industrial revolution and, more recently, the medical revolution.
We haven't gotten access to more food, we just got more efficient at making food. That and we've lowered the death rate.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:22:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:07:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And we've been doing a great job of not dying really early.
Horadric-Cube ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 21:25:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and with we you mean africans, arabs and asians
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The population of the US has trebled since WW2... yeah blame it all on the brown people.
Intnop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, he's got a point. Currently, the fertility rate (average amount of children a mother will have in her lifetime) in most first world countries is around 2.1-2.3, barely enough needed to sustain the population (one child for each parent). In some cases, it's lower than 2.1, which means that some countries are technically losing populations (though immigration often helps in stopping these losses).
Meanwhile, in Africa and Asia, most countries are experiencing a large population growth. Fertility rate is above 3, sometimes even 4, and many countries, including China, are taking measures to stop the population from getting out of control.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, he doesn't. The west has already undergone it's rapid expansion in population, he's totally ignoring that to suit his casual racism.
Intnop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:17:39 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand? That's the point I'm trying to make. The west has already undergone it's rapid expansion in population, while the populations of Africa and Asia are still undergoing their development.
I suppose if you mean since the 50's, then sure, I see what you mean. But I'm talking about current-day.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:13:20 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We've been breeding like crazy. Everyone, every continent
Horadric-Cube ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:10:00 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
they have a lot of immigration, and if you look at population groups that have been there for a while, like whites and ex slave africans, their growth is minimal. Global growth is slowing, except for africa, which just does not give a fuck. projected to become 4 billion in a few decades. (125 million a century ago)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:18:43 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, the US is 2/3rds immigrants that arrived since the second world war... What a load of old shit.
Horadric-Cube ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:22:23 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not what im saying. im saying the population growth has stopped significantly the last decades, even decreasing in some ethnic groups. Evenso, the pop growth in the west is nothing compared to Africa.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:03 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I'm saying that that is irrelevant. The phrase was 'we've been'. The entire planet has. He's ignoring recent history to fit in with his own little racist views.
Horadric-Cube ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:54:36 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
were currently in the fastest world population growth in human history, although africa already grew tenfold the last century. Apparently pointing this out is racist. WASISSSS
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:23 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's how exponentiallity works. The west had a head start on the whole population explosion thing and Africa started at a massive disadvantage .
RealSarcasmBot ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:48:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Population_curve.svg
mariospanker ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:32:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We can't be sure though, immortality might be right around the corner
vakula ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like Second coming?
mariospanker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like AI solving biology and reversing age :)
vakula ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even if it happens, it is potential immortality, not actual.
mariospanker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My idea is that we will reverse age, wait for technology to improve us, and then also become physically immortal, in addition to biologically immortal :D like fill our bodies with nanobots or something that absorbs impact, AI will be creative enough to solve it for us
vakula ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It still would be only potential immortality. Infinite time will realize even the slightest possibility of dying.
mariospanker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if we back up our consciousness on computers and make that 100% safe?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The heat death of the universe might still get you if we can't find a way to reverse that. We have a lot of time to work on that one though, so maybe!
mariospanker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thing with entropy though is that it's not really a "law" in way gravitation is, it's more like a pattern that tend to happen, sometimes it even spontaneously decreases, but in total, it increases.
I'm no physicist and know very little about this, but my gut is telling me there might me a chance of manipulating entropy on a smaller scale, say by manipulating molecules in a gas chamber to concentrate the kinetic energy or something.
I think quantum uncertainty is holding that idea back though, as we can't measure small things accurately enough :/
vakula ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing can be made 100% safe.
The whole idea of some ordered structure to exist permanent violates basically all fundamental physical laws we know. Conservation of energy, the second law of thermodynamics, quantum mechanics, cosmology.
AI cannot be smart enough to redefine all physics.
mariospanker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know logically that you are right but just let me live inside this bubble of faith that I will be immortal and live for a million years <3
vakula ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some guy said "Singularity is an afterlife believe system for smarter people" or something like this.
mariospanker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha that describes me, I feel like I'm irrationally religious about singularity, but I still think it's more justified than actual religion :D
cowbellhero81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In many ways it's always been here. There can be only one.
kellzone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oddly enough though, consumption of dihydrogen monoxide actually prolongs life longer than were it not ingested in the first place.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:39:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They'll still end up dead.
Gufnork ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:30:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a lie, a not insignificant portion of them are still alive.
FuckCazadors ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:31:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just you wait...
kluvin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A hundred years and there'll be no one left in this world..
arth99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because Di-hydrogen Monoxide was banned :)
jokr004 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He said they will "end up dead" not that they are dead.
luigis_girlfriend ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mathematically, it is insignificant.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:27:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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luigis_girlfriend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. Thanks for kicking my silly ass.
Time to go win a bar bet.
bartManSimpson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coincidence? I think not.
ChrisVolkoff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
puts on tinfoil hat
trevize1138 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the "government" has been adding it to our drinking water for some time now.
Soul-Burn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
That's blatantly wrong. Me and you consume Dihydrogen Monoxide on a daily basis and we aren't dead.
In fact, around 6% of the people that ever lived haven't died!
benktilley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And %100 who didn't ended up dead
Long story short: dead.
ExcitedByNoise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's highly like that the government is pumping Dihydrogen Monoxide into the very building you're in! If you get just a little bit of it in your lungs, it's lethal. It's corrosive enough to eat through metal and rock. Hear more about this terrifying chemical on your local 5 o'clock news. (seems like a typical fear mongering local news spot to me at least)
egportal2002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dihydrogen monoxide is also a gateway drug! After all, 100% of heroin users started out using it...
PrivilegedPatriarchy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the withdrawal effects? DEATH
Oafah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Technically, that's not true. Statistically speaking, roughly .001% of people who have consumed it are still alive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Oafah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was pulling a number out of my ass on the fly, but you appear to be roughly in the right ballpark, depending on how you define "people".
Looks like estimates range from 4.5% to 7%.
grass_cutter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% of people who consume gummy bears end up dead.
jstrydor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This has yet to be proven
Zevyn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like something you'd see on a billboard put up by some anti-vaping group.
mgmfa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, only 93% of humans who have ever consumed dihydrogen monoxide have ended up dead so far. Source
mcharb13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Moreover, Dihydrogen Monoxide is often used:
as an industrial solvent and coolant
in nuclear power plants
in the production of styrofoam
as a fire retardant
in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
Page_Won ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But there's also the fact that 100% of the most successful people in history have consumed Dihydrogen Monoxide, otherwise known as hydric acid.
JuggleNutt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's cute when little kids fall for this kind of stuff, but it's sad when half of my Organic Chemistry class falls for it in college. Especially when it's to the point where one girl exclaimed "HOW IS THIS ALLOWED TO BE AROUND PEOPLE?!"
Alsothorium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You not seen The Leftovers? If you drink the water you're fucked.
Noteamini ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Officials warn inhaling even a small amount of concentrate dihydrogen monoxide can be fatal.
MathMaddox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People who masterbate furiously multiple times a day have been shown to live long than people who died. I'm on year 13 of my 5 year research plan.
kky245 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It should be spelt Die-hydrogen monoxide
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% true fact: Hitler consumed dihydrogen monoxide on a daily basis.
Do you want to be Hitler?
mushnikJmushnik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That must add up to at least a few dozen per year.
fuckingminotaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably more
Yajirobe404 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I consume H2O and I am alive.
jaydog747 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% of people who drink water DIE
djc6535 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No no no. When you say "100%" you raise suspicion to the ruse. You say "An alarming amount of people to take so much as a sip of Dihydrogen monoxide die"
the_jak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
What if you diluted it in water so that the water memory protects you...or however homeopathy is supposed to work.
shingtaklam1324 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And it has a 100% kill rate if immersed in it for too long as well.
BritainsNuttiestGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://orig04.deviantart.net/f9c1/f/2012/241/6/5/one_hundred_percent_by_czudakx-d5cutd3.png
Edgy_McEdgyFace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% of paedophiles depend on Dihydrogen Monoxide
tres_chill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Actually, it's about 93.5%.
(as of 2011)
And yeah, that means 6.5% of all humans ever born were alive as of 2011.
thesplendor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, the study that you're referring to was later proven inaccurate due to a conflict of interest.
nthcxd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Beung born" is the number one cause of death with consistent 100% mortality rate throughout history.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% of everyone ends up dead.
Buck_Thorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a true fact.
California_Viking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% of people will end up dead in their lifetime.
Fiercerain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:38 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also read in an article that Hydroxyl acid is present in vaccines.. And ever since then more and more children have been getting sick from vaccines. Why can't doctors greenify our vaccines? What are they trying to hide?
nhum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:41 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not true. Only about 90% of them. The rest are still alive.
kenwaystache ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:32 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JvN8RvV_u_A/UDQPo3uMr1I/AAAAAAAATw0/JCsfk0SFYso/s1600/255405_10151085507908119_1873104569_n.jpg
drunkenpinecone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:14 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
There is an older documentary about how it affects certain animals. It can have different effects on different species, something they didnt know until they had an accident. When the animal was accidently exposed to Dihydrogen Monoxide in an unorthodox manner. They noticed right away that it changed something in the animal. It had greatly increased the fertilization of the species by 100+%!
Just like other species, its highly addictive and can make animals go crazy trying to get it. So maybe since it affects them just like us, maybe it can help with human repoduction.
****ALSO A REMINDER!!****
DO NOT FUCK AROUND WITH DIHYDROGEN MONOXCIDE.
IT CAN KILL YOU IN A MATTER OF SECONDS.
landslidegh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:55 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is simply not true. There are billions of people who have been ingesting it for years that are still alive. You can't say 100% of people die from it when there are billions of people alive that have ingested it. It could be that everyone who is alive right now could live forever.
Canucklehead99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least you think :)
FuckCazadors ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How come you're reading a two week old TIL thread?
Canucklehead99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eye and finger exercise.
YouKnowItWell ยท 5053 points ยท Posted at 17:45:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
At least he was rewarded for showing this.
Remember those 2 radio hosts that did this as an April Fools joke a couple years ago? (on April 1st no less).. and were promptly suspended and threatened with a potential felony charge. I think it was in Florida somewhere.
The stupidity of people being angry at the radio hosts was so infuriating.
edit: found some old articles on it...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/02/florida-water-prank/2046639/
http://www.thewire.com/entertainment/2013/04/florida-djs-april-fools-water-joke/63798/
8483 ยท 2469 points ยท Posted at 18:22:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, it is infuriating that they got suspended and that the station apologized...
For fucking what LOL? There is 0 fucking chance of getting a felony charge for other people's stupidity.
I'd probably sue the station for suspending me.
That joke was awesome.
[deleted] ยท 1291 points ยท Posted at 18:25:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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32BitWhore ยท 1275 points ยท Posted at 18:31:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not even a false report, that's the shitty part. Not only did they not call the Department of Health to report it, it was the listeners, but they were telling people a fact and they were too dumb to realize it.
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 399 points ยท Posted at 18:34:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some local media programs really are stupid.
keeb119 ยท 151 points ยท Posted at 18:37:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Almost all are where im at. Spefically looking at you kisw.
kiswa ยท 824 points ยท Posted at 18:53:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought you were calling me stupid for a second there.
SpeakSoftlyAnd ยท 244 points ยท Posted at 19:08:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Boy that worked out didn't it?
AmboC ยท 101 points ยท Posted at 19:30:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Playing the long game.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:39:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The long con.
Dokpsy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:00:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a sub for almost beetlejuicing?
LimesInHell ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:57:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dat diddly done worked out didn't it Paul?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:53:41 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why and how does this happen so much? This being "Redditor for >2 years, only comment is extremely relevant"
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:16:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now we're on the topic of that...
Cavemansol ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:18:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're not off the hook just yet...
marcusteh1238 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:31:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/beetlejuicing
kiswa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:02 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know what that means.
Versimilitudinous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair play my friend, I respect it.
Swibblestein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is this the only time your username has been relevant?
kiswa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:31:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
And probably the last time too. :(
krath8412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still more often than me...
Swibblestein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:59 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mine's never been relevant before, so I feel your pain.
TheRealBananaWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn...few people ever see their time like that.
45645631213146455646 ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 19:12:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kisw makes stupid local content into am art form. It's a tapout shirt for your ears.
Uncle_Wally_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great description. I'm gonna be using that one
xdcountry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tapout shirt for your ears-- that's poetry. I need to work that into a conversation soon.
faydor ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:11:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha they know how to appeal to their target demographic. I have worked with almost all of the DJs on KISW and they are some of the coolest people I have ever met.
keeb119 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:15:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They seem cool. But the shows themselves are just stupid.
Rootner ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:21:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
99.9 the rock
Zatch_Gaspifianaski ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:06:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one that thinks its kind of weird that the woman that they hired to replaced Jolene sounds exactly like her.
jadarisphone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:33:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Taryn? She idolizes Jolene, she's trying to be exactly like her, it's awful.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:52:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Walter___ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:07:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just started listening to 98.9. Much better music and no annoying hosts killing my brain cells.
keeb119 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:16:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. 20 mins in the men's room is long enough.unless you are at work.
wildo88 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:50:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Their beer is my favorite though.
Kowboooy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't even look at that beer because I associate it with their show.
lobstahcookah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Been listening to a ton of 98.9 this past week. Overall a good station but man I'm hearing too many of the same songs at very similar times each day. The "Ninety Eight.....Niiiiine" jingle Also annoys me a bit too but whatever.
johnyutah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:59:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also the same 4 songs over and over.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:01:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seattle?!
johnyutah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
KEXP all the way
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
99.9?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Moved up to Bellingham from Seattle and 98.9 the Fox is soooo much better than 99.9 was. I miss the old kisw though. Hell I even miss the old 107.7 the end
whit3_kandy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:47:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the mens room rocks...
ManjiBlade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm looking at 94.5, man.....fuck that station now.
I still dig Rod Ryan though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The last time I listened to the radio in the Seattle area I alternated between KISW and KNDD.
Then again, that was like 8 or 9 years ago.
jadarisphone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:34:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The End used to be so good in the late 90s. Now they just play whiny hippie - rock and top 40
jadarisphone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Over the tongue and down the throat to party in my tummy...
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least their website is good for click-bait
nelfoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think people in most countries outside the USA find most US news channels a joke.
sunzoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think intelligent people in the media are rare. More so in smaller markets.
TrollJack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The programs? The audience!
fatkiddown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Orson Welles should've went to prison /s
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not even local. There's a very large east coast duo whose token female is the goddamn stupidest human I've ever had to listen to. Between her and one of the guy's super conservative, rampant misogyny and dislike of pretty much every hobby and past time he isn't involved in, that he bitches about constantly and then just claims it's his dj schtick when people complain, I had to stop listening. My IQ dropped every time they came on. I miss when their old token female was still around, she seemed to keep things more even-keeled :(
Aelo-Z ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The shit works though. Look at The Big Bang Theory. Stupidest show on television, and one of the most viewed.
III-V ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're basically all the same. They're a mouthpiece for the US government. They'll all report the same things with the exact same wording (as far as national stories go). Conan O'Brien does regular mockeries of them.
BoilerMaker11 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:10:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Say enough big, scary, sciencey words and you'll scare people. Because "chemicals".
I saw something about people getting mad about "sodium bicarbonate" in our food. Then showed that it was used in fire extinguishers and paint removers.
Sodium bicarbonate is baking soda.
32BitWhore ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:12:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah... I work in the e-cigarette liquid industry and we get a lot of detractors complaining about Propylene Glycol in most liquids because it's used in anti-freeze. What they don't tell you is that Propylene Glycol is what they replaced Ethlyene Glycol with in order to make anti-freeze safe for pets (and strange people) who felt the need to drink it. It's also in a ton of other products like toothpaste and nebulizers and stuff.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:01:46 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get why people get all worked up about "anti-freeze ingredient" when there are real issues such as formaldehyde being produced in the vapor. Sure, the quantities vary and are often pretty low, but at least it's a known carcinogen.
Skov ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:26:56 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to long ago people were grousing about it being in fireball whiskey. I enjoyed pointing out that if you attempted to drink enough of the whiskey to OD on propylene glycol, you would actually OD from the water first. That would be if you somehow survived the alcohol poisoning.
32BitWhore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:23 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The formaldehyde studies have all but been debunked at this point. The main study which most people reference was done in such away that they were literally burning the wicking material inside the vaporizer (called a "dry hit"). Anyone who's so much as taken a single dry hit will tell you that no sane person could do that more than once in a row without realizing something was wrong. It's tastes more disgusting than cigarettes. With proper usage, there is generally no formaldehyde production.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm aware of that. My point was that the device can be made to emit actual toxins, so it seems stupid for the freak-out crowd to take aim at a non-toxic component. It was just a thought about the weakness of their argument.
32BitWhore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:53:30 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair point.
spinynorman1846 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:29:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it? That's why my recipes never work. I always thought baking soda was the US name for baking powder, not bicarbonate of soda
mercuryminded ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Baking powder is baking soda pre-mixed with some kind of acid so that they'll react when you add water.
Whind_Soull ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:47:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I recall seeing a bit for a show where a guy got an enormous number of signatures from people on the street, for a petition to "ban all chemicals." Like, how stupid do you have to be?
BoilerMaker11 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:49:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, literally everything in the universe is chemicals.
Whind_Soull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen Tim Minchin's comedy / social commentary bit titled Storm? It comes to mind because it includes "everything is chemicals." The link I gave you is to the best version, which is coupled with an animated short.
BoilerMaker11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haven't seen it, and I'm currently at work, so I can't watch that. But I'll definitely check it out when I get home.
ignoliss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:22 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was an absolutely good watch but I don't seem to recall "everything is chemicals" bit in this.
Whind_Soull ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:05:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, dammit...this is going to drive me crazy. That line (or something very close to it) appears in a Tim Minchin song, and I thought it was that one. I just did some basic googling, but didn't find it, and I'm currently predisposed, walking my dog. I'll try to find it later. Sorry about that misinformation.
kulwop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:38 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's in Tim's speech right before The Fence
Whind_Soull ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:56:18 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, you're awesome! Thanks a bunch.
skalpelis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:26:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's how you get people hating monosodium glutamate.
cockyjames ยท 162 points ยท Posted at 18:46:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is a false report if they reported the water was unsafe. I think what's important is how the joke was handled. If they told everyone their water was unsafe, they should face repercussions. If they just kept saying, people there's dihydrogen monoxide in your water over and over, there's a lot more leniency IMO. Devil's in the details
cal_student37 ยท 307 points ยท Posted at 18:50:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water is unsafe though, you can drown in it
Pkfighter7942 ยท 276 points ยท Posted at 18:57:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also it has a 100% mortality rate. 100% of people that drink it, die.
resplendence4 ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 19:11:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We don't know that yet! I just had some a moment ago and I'm still alive.
[deleted] ยท 164 points ยท Posted at 19:16:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This user hasn't posted since he wrote this.
Hic142 ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 19:31:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's safe to assume the worst.
screen317 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:40:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RIP
GrapeApee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
F
restlessmouse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:14:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never touch the stuff.
Ndavidclaiborne ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:19:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A 100% of people who don't drink water die as well...you got some decisions to make.
Jed118 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He drowned in spaghetti.
Starkington ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:31:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The long-con starts now
serious-oy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:39:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DHMO - Not even once
AnalInferno ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god. This one either!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:36:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, am dead.
Nocturnalized ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He ded
gregsting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RIP
Pkfighter7942 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just you wait...
RolandLovecraft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For now...mmuuaaahhh hhhaaaammuuuaaahhh hhhhaaa MMMUUUAAAAHHHHHH AAHHHHHAHHHHA!!! HHHHAAAAHHHHAAAAAMMMMUUUUAAAHHHH HHHHAAAAA!
Shrimpables ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And we never heard of /u/resplendence4 again
Baalzabub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:20 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its a cumulative poison. Like sugar or Arsenic.
Tidorith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
95% of people who drink it die. The remaining 5% is just speculation.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:08:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Causation =/= correlation
Dihydrogen monoxide has been PROVEN to provide countless health benefits, including hydration, better brain function, etc. Do your research before your parrot info you've heard elsewhere
Pkfighter7942 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:10:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
K
eyemadeanaccount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, some dihydrogen monoxide has potassium in it.
luigis_girlfriend ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:16:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OH
Bootsnpots ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it literally doesn't. Tap water may have potassium in it... But dihydrogen monoxide does not have potassium in it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It's the dihydrogen monoxide you consume also composed of hydrogen and hydroxide ions. Hydroxide can you believe it!? I feel like I'm drinking bleach now, or a very deadly chemical
Every now and then (1 in 1000000, again, one of the hydrogen ions will be a hydronium ion)
Come at me media.
ejeebs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Na
the_last_fartbender ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Na.
eyemadeanaccount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:18 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sodium too!
Poogans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's inconclusive. I'm drinking water right now and I don't think I'm dead yet.
solumized ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately also though, the mortality rate is the same even if you were to stop drinking it! So far, there is no cure for death caused by this substance.
PM_ME_UR_STEAMKEYS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
test row incomplete(93% finished, although this shows a clear trend, in many cases a probable mechanism of action for the causing of death by hydrogen monoxide has not been established.)
838h920 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was noone who died without having it in his blood!
macrolinx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think all we can say for sure is that everyone who has died has drank water. Only time will tell if everyone that drinks water will die.
tquiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% of cancer cells have been found to contain dihydrogen monoxide.
TuMai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:58 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Conversely, 100% of ppl that dont drink water die.
jstrydor ยท 126 points ยท Posted at 18:58:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you please stop making the narrative about water while the very real threat of dihydrogen monoxide is still out there...
Jo5900 ยท 166 points ยท Posted at 19:10:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A real threat is also people who can't spell their name.
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 19:40:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fucking savage
garytheunicorn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:08:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*Fred Savage
ripvannwinkler ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:34:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*Ben savage.
Grapleef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*Vandal Savage
chubby_cheese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*Savage Garden
Grapleef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*Savage Opress
FlintShaman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Macho Man Randy Savage
chubby_cheese ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:00:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He will never live that down.
Grimorg ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:47:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My thought process: "what's that supposed to mean?" looks at name "ohhhh"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:46 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
He goes to Egypt
Jackisback123 ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 19:16:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, aren't you the guy who misspelt his username?
jstrydor ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 19:28:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:/
Billoron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:32:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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jstrydor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:44:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I drank too much dihydrogen monoxide as a child... the rest is just history
Billoron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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sloaninator ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:12:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In his case a few of his consonants died.
Billoron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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iamsmilebot ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:13:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:')
i am a bot, and i want to make you happy again
Billoron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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jstrydor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:15 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was pretty good
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, aren't you the guy who misspelt his username?
subnu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/2y26ji/whats_the_deal_with_the_arent_you_the_guy_that/
EvanFlecknell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:40 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is still going on for you eh? I had forgotten but as soon as I saw someone's comment the memories came flooding back! :/ poor dude
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:02:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Jackisback123 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:06:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:/
nefariouspenguin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:27:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It can be both ways!
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/misspell
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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chubby_cheese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Madness?
nefariouspenguin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:02:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is English!
Booblicle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:05:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That dihydrogen monoxide ruined this mans life. He can't even spell his own name!
AnonForEverthing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You need to leave narrative out. People dont understand 'big' words.
Pacman97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're the guy who misspelt his username right?
indiemosh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, aren't you that Vikings fan?
jstrydor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:10 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That I am
Shabacka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thanks kenm
branfordjeff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water can even drown you from inside of you.
hoy89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why it should be banned /s
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:54:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make America dry again!
Max_TwoSteppen ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:57:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As usual California is very progressive in this. They've been dry for a while already!
A_Maniac_Plan ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:57:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, California ahead of the curve again!
stickyfingers10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you just trying to catch a felony now?
Sloathe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you really need a /s for that?
rnflhastheworstmods ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Frozen water dented my truck.
This "water" sounds like it's bad business.
zealoSC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's addictive!
Smauler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And overdose on it. Water poisoning is a thing.
pacman529 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's used in lots of chemical industries. It's used in nuclear power plants. Every year tons of it is dumped into our streams and rivers, lakes and oceans. It causes sweating and urination. In high enough concentrations it can be toxic.
koshgeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But everybody knows that. What's more interesting is the reaction if you tell people you can die if you drink too much water (which is true).
Clewin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, if you follow the reference, one of the kids arguments was that inhaling DHMO could result in death. That is an absolutely brilliant way to put it.
Here's some of the rest of it:
Dihydrogen monoxide: is also known as hydroxl acid, and is the major component of acid rain. contributes to the "greenhouse effect." may cause severe burns. contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape. accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals. may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes. has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients. Contamination is reaching epidemic proportions!
Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice. DHMO has caused millions of dollars of property damage in the midwest, and recently California.
Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used: as an industrial solvent and coolant. in nuclear power plants. in the production of styrofoam. as a fire retardant. in many forms of cruel animal research. in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical. as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products. Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal. The impact on wildlife is extreme, and we cannot afford to ignore it any longer!
The American government has refused to ban the production, distribution, or use of this damaging chemical due to its "importance to the economic health of this nation." In fact, the navy and other military organizations are conducting experiments with DHMO, and designing multi-billion dollar devices to control and utilize it during warfare situations. Hundreds of military research facilities receive tons of it through a highly sophisticated underground distribution network. Many store large quantities for later use.
Big_Cums ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 18:51:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can word "dihydrogen monoxide" as scary by saying true things about it.
Like how it is responsible for drowning and erosion and is in everybody's body right now.
But that's not false. That's not saying it's unsafe. That's just describing water.
If you go on the radio and say all the shit they said but say "water" instead of "dihydrogen monoxide" nobody would give a shit.
solidspacedragon ยท 289 points ยท Posted at 19:03:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can't just say drowning. You do it like this:
Accidental inhalation of dihydrogen monoxide can lead to suffocation and death.
Other good ones include:
Prolonged contact with the solid form of dihydrogen monoxide can destroy cell walls.
Dihydrogen monoxide is an industrial solvent used in the production of many toxic chemicals.
Dihydrogen monoxide is often used to store radioactive components in nuclear reactors.
toadofsteel ยท 137 points ยท Posted at 19:32:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite: Dihydrogen monoxide sees widespread use in professional sport as a performance enhancer.
Megazor ยท 125 points ยท Posted at 19:16:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Somewhere a hipster is furiously reading the labels on his gluten free, organic, cruelty free spring water.
Zomplexx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LEAVE WATER ALONE
SimbaOnSteroids ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITS GOT TWO FUCKING IONS
anonymous_potato ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The real outrage is that corporations and their greedy CEOs don't necessarily have to label foods that used dihydrogen monoxide in their processing. A lot of GMOs are known to contain high amounts of the chemical.
joyous_occlusion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And intensely looking at the label on his vape wand for any trace of dihydrogen monoxide.
the_rant_daily ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, I admit it....I LOL'd.
Upvote for you.
Megazor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:04:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sad part is that technically it's not a joke.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-rules-allow-booze-fruit-and-water-to-be-labeled-gluten-free/
Gluten free vodka...because distilling something 5 times isn't obvious enough.
jaycshah99 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 19:13:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In fact dihydrogen monoxide is so deadly, that people who are consume dihydrogen monoxide are extremely likely to die
solidspacedragon ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 19:16:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One might even say that anyone who ingests it has a 100% chance of dying*
*within 120 years of ingestion
jaycshah99 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:18:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lies! You will arrested for misinforming the public over a dangerous chemical that they encounter in their day to day lives!
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/123-year-old-bolivian-man-oldest-living-person-ever-documented-f6C10934840
its within 130 years of ingestion :)
solidspacedragon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:22:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He probably ingested some at around the age of 7.
jaycshah99 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:25:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yes cause he survived 7 years without
waterdeadly dihydrogen monoxide.Kotios ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No it's not, unless you're saying the last time he had water was when he was born. I'm sure he's had water at 123.
jaycshah99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:58 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no but as soon as you ingest water, you will probably die within 130 years, and the FIRST time he had water was obviously around when he was born.
ksiyoto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should express it as "Once dihydrogen monoxide gets in your system, you will die."
Keifru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:10 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus knew the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide, which is why he would transform it into other compounds.
poporine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sooner or later everyone's survival rate drops to zero.
wssecurity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're the worst thing that ever happened to me
poporine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is until you bite the eventual big one, but till then have a nice day.
Big_Ballls ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:22:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My chemistry teacher loved to joke that the most dangerous chemical we would work with is dihydrogen monoxide, and that if it gets in your lungs you will die
solidspacedragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The gaseous form of DHMO can cause severe cellular damage to the lungs.
lejoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:57 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mine threw a party at the end of the chapter we learned all of this in. She brought two drinks one marked dihydrogen monoxide ( Warning!) and Apple Juice, me and one other boy both were the only ones who go the h20 and several girls freaked out and told the teacher we were about to drink it.
To this day I have no idea how those girls passed that class.
Tomakeusbutterpeople ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:32:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
High levels of Dihydrogen monoxide can cause irreversible damage to structures such as houses, bridges, and roads.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For extra fear factor you should also throw in:
"Even with limited inhalation of DHMO that does not prove immediately fatal, even a small amount can lead to suffocation and death hours or possibly even days after the first exposure if immediate medical attention is not received."
LunarGolbez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can I steal these please?
solidspacedragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but be careful!
In long term studies, 100% of people who consume dihydrogen monoxide die.
SquidLoaf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coca Cola uses dihydrogen monoxide in their soda, which is also a main ingredient in antifreeze. I'm appalled.
SleestakJack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dihydrogen monoxide is found in greater than 90% of malignant tumors.
Toxikomania ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It has been proved that the mom of every child born with authism has, during pregnancy, consumed a dose of dihydrogen monoxide.
Aelo-Z ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I will never look at mainstream case studies the same after this
rasht ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even though dihydrogen monoxide is added to food and drinks, it's deadly when consumed in distiled form in high quantities.
Keifru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:12 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Merely using the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) could provide plenty of amusing ammo. (Relevant story this reminded me of: https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/1rduku/encyclop%C3%A6dia_moronica_v_is_for_volatile_chemicals/ )
Is the best line.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like causing a panic because someone from a health department on a TV show decided to say that E. Coli is commonly found in people's guts. Utterly ridiculous that people fall for this without first conducting their due diligence.
cwen_bee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/S8ZcGz0.gif
Big_Cums ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tfw 2 much calcium
sageadam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% of people who consumed dihydrogen monoxide eventually died
kjhwkejhkhdsfkjhsdkf ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 19:02:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It becomes interesting when you're dealing with another person and you suddenly find that they're using very specific words when normally more common words would be used, or inversely, start being vague when specific answers are called for.
You can get away with quite a lot by using specific words and letting the other person assume that you mean what they expect you to mean.
But it's only a tactic that's useful once with a given person because while you'll usually end up being technically correct, you'll definitely be remembered.
kaibee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:36:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes you can even get elected President, or impeached!
lumloon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Along Islamic fundamentalists... they keep using Arabic words which are not known by most English speakers when discussing issues in their religion. https://pando.com/2015/03/30/the-war-nerd-to-lighten-the-mood-heres-the-cheery-tale-of-dammaj/
War Nerd rightfully calls 'em out :) :
EverWatcher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslySpecificDenial
SrSkippy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:42 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As an engineer that's one thing I tell our junior engineers; if you can't either quantify or explain something simply, you don't understand it. If someone you're speaking with can't do that, then the same thing is true for them. It's an excellent BS detection method.
CerseiBluth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, like my ex who swore up and down, "I did not cheat on you at the Local H concert!"
I forgot that Gob was also in town that weekend.
LyonesGamer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:03:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The issue with that though is that water is unsafe. We just accept that in our day to day lives. Accidental inhalation can be fatal. Both its solid and gaseous forms can cause severe burns, and even its liquid form can in some cases. It can damage electrical systems and electronics beyond repair, including to the point of harming those around it (i.e. electrifying impure water).
All of those statements are facts, and ones everyone knows. Sure, they're worded to be misleading and overly alarmist, but that's the whole point. If I heard I had to apologize for saying those things, I'd be pissed.
greg19735 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:24:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But that's why judges exist.
If they believe you're deliberately making people feel like the water is unsafe, then you can still get in trouble.
Illiux ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The statements wouldn't be false, regardless of what you were trying to accomplish in saying them, and they made no report.
greg19735 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, i'm more referring to creating hysteria.
If you're doing it on purpose, then you can still be in trouble. Though, it's hard to argue that this pair were trying to incite hysteria. They were just making a joke.
lejoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:14 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair it also should depend on the general audience. Albeit a joke, if the general audience is adult+ then it is safe to assume they have a high school diploma and should know better as certified by the state.
Duliticolaparadoxa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water is unsafe. Water toxicity is a thing
Xoebe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your epidermis is showing. Oh, and your refrigerator is running - better go catch it!
Tycho_monolith0 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:55:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think even without saying the water was unfit for consumption they are still guilty of inciting panic.
snotbag_pukebucket ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:43:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well at least they got their jobs back
PootenRumble ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If they had coupled their comments about dihydrogen monoxide with recommending listeners go to Google to find out more details, this probably could have ended much more calmly.
lejoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:48 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
inb4 the majority of people who called in don't know what the internet is
processedmeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of the Aqua Teen Hunger Force prank.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/31/boston.bombscare/
Duliticolaparadoxa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's honestly the truest report. There is nothing factually incorrect here.
chiroque-svistunoque ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's Florida after all
Zachary9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well they did say it was unsafe to drink
onioning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing I could see is if they were telling people they need to freak out, and that they shouldn't drink the water, and blah blah. It certainly doesn't sound like that was the case, but that's the only circumstances I can imagine that could possibly warrant any action.
0342narmak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, now that I think about it, I guess they did knowingly trick people into making water quality complaints. I understand why the people who had to deal with the phone calls got pissed.
furiun ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it's true that there was water in their water, but it's unclear if the radio hosts also told the listeners that dihydrogen monoxide was a dangerous chemical, which is untrue.
One of the articles says "it also remains unclear just how much the two hosts stoked the joke, and whether they actually told people to stop drinking the "dihydrogen monoxide" coming out of their taps." The other article says listeners "heard that county water was unsafe and should not be used for drinking, showering or for any use."
If the radio hosts directly said that the water was unsafe (as opposed to just implying this by calling water by its chemical name), then what they did might still be considered legitimately illegal.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:52:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Whind_Soull ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a difference between saying that and saying something like "don't drink or bath in county tap water because it contains dihydrogen monoxide" (which the DJs may or may not have said--that appears to be unconfirmed).
MeIIowJeIIo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:11:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They may have told listeners the water "was unsafe", that's the concern for the regulators, not the dihydrogen stuff.
But still.. we're dealing with country music listeners here.
thechairinfront ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It wasn't that they were saying the technical name for water, they were telling people it was dangerous. They said they should not drink, shower, or wash with it. I wouldn't know how to spell it, I wouldn't know how to repronounce it after hearing it once or twice. I wouldn't know what it is and those stations broadcast news as well as music. I would take them at their word if they were to say that the water is contaminated.
It was a bad joke. It didn't do any real world harm. They shouldn't have lost their jobs after 16 years, but they should have been reprimanded.
Whind_Soull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See, that so heavily depends upon exact wording, and I have no idea what their exact wording was.
If they said, "DM is harmful if inhaled into the lungs," then I would side with them.
If they said, "Don't drink tap water because it contains harmful DM," then I would side against them.
thechairinfront ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The article says that the DJs said not to drink the water, wash with it, or shower. According to the article they were stating that it was dangerous to use or ingest.
akornblatt ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:48:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if they were WARNING that "Dihydrogen Monoxide" was coming out of their faucets then it is a false report. While it is true that they were saying water is coming out of the faucet, the implication was that the water was unsafe and thus needed a "warning."
LyonesGamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Accidental inhalation of water causes thousands of deaths a year. How is that not dangerous?
I'm mostly being facetious, but that's the point. Nothing they said was wrong. Their audience simply failed to understand the satire.
Should we remove all jokes and references from our speech and our radio shows in case people don't get them?
akornblatt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:11:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, this is almost a "yelling fire in a crowded theater" argument. The legal argument could be made that they broke the law based off of our current definitions.
Illiux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This line comes from an overturned supreme court decision regarding laws that made anti-draft speech in WW1 illegal. Stop using it.
Charlie_Warlie ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 18:33:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Is that true?"
"I don't know, but it is my understanding"
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 18:33:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's just so damn cringe-worthy.
minddropstudios ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a Trump quote.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:00:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you can find me a politician who hasn't used that phrase or a variant of it, I'll be shocked.
LukesLikeIt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:41 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's quite a mature statement. It's what I believe is true but I admit I may be wrong.
Pandamana ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 19:32:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The problem here is that we don't know what the DJs actually said. If they said anything along the lines of "Don't drink the water," or "the water is unsafe," then they are absolutely falsifying water quality. If all they said was that there was DHMO coming out of the taps, then yea this is fucking retarded.
seestheirrelevant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:49 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even if they said that, unless they're a news station that still shouldn't count as a false report.
fixingthebeetle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:44 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How is saying the water is unsafe is a false report? Unsafe is a subjective expression. I could say airplanes are unsafe, or I could say they are very safe. Depend how you look at the data. Water out of a tap can cause death and injury and it does so on a regular basis, so even calling pure drinking water unsafe is not a false report
Reach- ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:43:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In what way can i intentionally misinterpret the information at hand so as to justify my wanton outrage?
AverageMerica ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:36:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look how watered down the felon status is these days.
Thanks drug war!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If dihydrogen monoxide is not coming out of their tap wtf is.
fuckCARalarms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She must score mad pole.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:48:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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stlnthngs ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 18:43:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
kinda like yelling FIRE! in a crowded theater? it's not covered by the 1st amendment to falsify anything that has the potential for public panic
neurolite ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:46:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They did the equivalent of yelling "CELLULOID" in the theatre.
[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 18:33:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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asimplydreadfulerror ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:38:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing there was nothing false about stating that dihydrogen monoxide was coming out of people's taps.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:04:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From the wire article:
That to me would be key, because if they said it was dangerous or harmful, or that people shouldn't drink the water, then it would be inciting panic. I'm not sure how there isn't a recording of the broadcast somewhere, maybe it's just crappy journalism and they never bothered to actually research it.
xLabrinthx ยท 136 points ยท Posted at 18:28:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Unfortunately this falls under the category of inciting a panic. Kinda like yelling "FIRE!" at a movie theater. Even though there's no fire, your actions, despite everyone else's knowledge (or lack thereof), caused a situation in which real panic on false pretenses could cause real injuries to real people.
Edit: For clarity, I thought the joke was fucking awesome.
Edit Edit: Apparently this is necessary, as people forgot how to use Google.
jjsocrates ยท 666 points ยท Posted at 18:31:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is kinda like yelling "Cinema!" in a crowded movie theater though...
[deleted] ยท 125 points ยท Posted at 19:02:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More like going to a cinema and shouting cinema in Arabic
PharohGains ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 19:40:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is still pronounced exactly the same in Arabic. Source: me.
LewsTherinTelamon ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:12:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not exactly the point, though.
Matrim__Cauthon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:30:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have much room to bloody judge people pretending to destroy everything, Lord of the morning.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't expecting to see these two names out of the blue
RedL45 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:49:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
rekt
TenF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:07 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention film is Fiilm in arabic hahaha.
ูููู ู ุฃููุงู
PM_ME_UR_STEAMKEYS ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:54:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ูููู ุงูุณูููู ุง!!!!
Gefroan ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 19:56:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really, because people in Cinema's aren't expected to know another language.
But these people should of taken science in school. -_-
gtalley10 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:11:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can only do so much to protect people from what they should have learned in school.
Gefroan ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:38:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you think that distracts from the point I made, than feel free to grab onto it.
But languages aren't dead and they evolve every day into new dialects and eventually branch off. Only the pompous think they have some patent or right to what constitutes their language.
jonnyp11 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:21:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The proper phrase is "detracts from my point," though distracts does work, I suppose.
OctopusEyes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:55:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was capitalizing and adding an apostrophe to "cinemas" meant to be part of the evolution?
Pence128 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anything the majority of people doesn't like should be banned. In fact, everything should be banned by default and unbanned by majority vote. Make every space a safe space. For normal people anyway. If you don't like it go back to Mexico. /s
Gefroan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:04 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck did any of that mean?
Pence128 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:11 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That the government should protect me from anything that might scare or offend me so that I can live in my own little bubble of ignorance and that there are only two kinds of people in the world: Real Americans which are white Christians that agree with me on everything and illegal immigrants which only come from Mexico.
I was mocking the mind-numbing xenophobia, ignorance and stupidity that sadly exists in some places.
Knowing that dihydrogen monoxide is water would only save them from the specific case of making themselves look like idiots by complaining about the water in the water. School can't completely disguise their idiocy.
The solution is for them to not be idiots, think for themselves and figure it out on their own. A government that ensures that nobody is ever exposed to something new or different because it might scare them is the epitome of the nanny state.
Something in the water? Long on facts and short on information? Never actually told not to drink the water? Only being reported by one station? April 1st? Not reporters, but actually a couple of radio DJs? From "The Gator?" Nothing from regulators? Better panic.
As Nathan proved, whenever confronted with something they don't understand but makes them feel bad their first instinct is to make someone else make it go away so they don't have to deal with it. Maybe if it were socially acceptable to mock the willfully ignorant they would actually learn something for once.
It must be incredibly useful. Put on a suit, look important and cast something in a particular light and people will beg you to destroy it for them.
Kinyin ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:38:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The issue is mostly the format. Going around and getting people's signatures on a petition is far different than broadcasting to tens of thousands of people. Not everyone has the same education, circumstances, etc., so it must be assumed that there's a portion of the population that is going to panic. If it hadn't been a radio show, I doubt there would have been much retaliation.
hitlerosexual ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:54:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also they're much less likely to go after a kid for something like this because of the PR
Jaredismyname ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:32:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except then are the news agencies liable for doing the same thing?
Canvaverbalist ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:46:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, everybody is saying people are fucking stupid but the truth is that if my father were to hear the radio say all these scary facts about dihydrogen monoxide he would have come home being nervous and worried, because he simply doesn't know better.
And that makes me sad... sad that he would have reacted this way, and sad that people would have thought he's stupid.
IronInforcersecond ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:36 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is stupid. I'm not stupid, because I now know that dihydrogen monoxide - the term I copy/pasted from the article - is another way to say water.
Everyone is acting like they wouldn't fall for it, and while I probably could've reasoned that di(2)hydrogen(h) mon(1)oxide(o) is water, not everybody comes from a background of education. There's a great lack of general knowledge of many fields in any given individual regardless (and it changes dramatically based on location, think country vs city), so it's a bit unreasonable to expect everyone to know all the simple things. People just like to feel superior.
Osbios ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So how exactly does this so dangerous panic look like that could happen?
And how is it different from people just being "offended" like for example religious people after you tell them that bone cancer in children is maybe a sign that there is no god or that "his" big plan sucks and he is a terrible being.
Kinyin ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It comes down to the interpretation of the constitutional right of free speech. It's commonly held that one cannot incite panic, violence, etc. Not only that, but local laws, federal laws, etc., can play a part. In addition, the scale of what is said, how many it reached, and the judgement of officials comes into play, too.
Rush Limbaugh, for example, has said many things on his radio station that have been quite charged, and plenty of other radio hosts have given their beliefs, even if false, to the masses.
Then you take this example where two radio hosts are stating that one of the main supports of civilization, access to clean water, is at stake. People are affected, businesses are affected, etc. Even if it comes down to ignorance on the masses's part.
They just chose the wrong format and scale in which to play a prank.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I understand panic, but once learning about what it really means and realising it's more about their lack of education - it should left at that. Demanding the person to be punished and scolded after learning the truth just reflects badly on you, and it's makes it appear that you're just angry to learn you are not as smart as you originally thought you were.
erublind ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:40:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, yelling in a crowded theater should be illegal. Unless there is a fire. Or rape.
typeswithgenitals ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:42:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Murder's cool though
DaCoolNamesWereTaken ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:46:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As long as they keep it quiet and don't interrupt my movie
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:54:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'll get it soon enough.
mrgonzalez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:58:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it's murder then it's probably already too late for anyone to help. No point causing a fuss.
Zed_FTW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit man, it adds to my immersion when I'm watching horror flicks
Justine_thyme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except during a horror movie. Then it needs to be loud and over the too to add to the experience
qspec02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if they check text messages during the film.
typeswithgenitals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or have a phone convo
LazyGene ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the exception to Jah Rule
Sararia ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:44:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even know why he jumped to rape. Liberals are do eager to jump to rape all the time, it makes no sense.
typeswithgenitals ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:51:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what? How did that thought process occur in your brain?
Yglorba ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:38:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Allow me to explain. Here is a simplified graph of the inside of Sararia's brain.
Sararia ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Wait your asking me that? Not the guy who jumped from a fire, to fucking rape
Edit: seriously, there is something very wrong with you, if you can't have a single discussion without bringing up rape.
There is an underlying mental condition that causes you to constantly by thinking about rape, please inform your counselor that you need to receive some treatment for that before you become a rapist.
Ajanissary ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:37:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the person was referring to how you concluded that the poster is a liberal based on the information given to you.
Rape
Sararia ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because its a widely acknowledged and discussed phenomenon, that liberals in america are obsessed with rape. There isn't a debate about it, they are obsessed with rape, they are obsessed with making up statistics for it, discussing it, and some are even becoming upset that its not more common. I
assumehope that the reason for the last is because it simply doesn't match the statistics they make up, not that they actually advocate for more of it for the sake of more of it.If you aren't just trolling we can continue this in PMs and I can link to several sources, articles, and studies done to prove my point. But I doubt you are doing anything but trolling.
typeswithgenitals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're the one turning an unrelated thread into a rant on your political beliefs.
Sararia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you wish to continue discussing this, I can link you to my paypal where you may commission additional responses. That said, and my final note on this topic. Its not I who brought up political beliefs, it was the liberal who jumped directly to rape in a conversation talking about water.
typeswithgenitals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, your contributions are so very valuable. How much would it cost to get you to stop making idiotic comments? I'll start a collection.
TheBlackDeath13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:59 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You think your shitty opinions are worth money? You must be taking every drug produced by mankind right now. In fact, I'd need to be given money to hear your shit.
cheapinvite1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've been raped in a movie theatre? You saw Batman vs Superman too?
erublind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:30 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For me, it was "the crystal skull". The nightmares, aliens, everywhere!
dudeguymanthesecond ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What... what is that...
Must... stampede...
hobskhan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:45:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay so go to a movie theater where they don't know the word "cinema" and start screaming it like everyone's going to die. You will be penalized.
It's the context, not the content.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:07:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The context is that inciting a panic on false pretenses is cause for legal trouble. You know, the context of the comment above?
There were no false pretenses. They told the truth. They also knew that telling the truth would get ignorant people riled up. It's the intent to cause harm that's the problem, not any sort of false pretenses.
Crashlight ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:55:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but the truth was presented in a way that cause panic when there was no reason to panic. The radio host incited panic.
vhalember ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What? Is there something wrong with my movie? This "cinema" sounds serious, I better call the movie board.
dguser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More like yelling "Cinema!" in Chinese.. no one would understand but in the right context it might result in a reaction similar to "Fire!"
wdoyle__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yelling in a movie theatre is rude either way!
njhokie5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't care what you're yelling even if it's "Candy!" I'm fucking booking it out of that movie theater. If someone is yelling at a movie theater 9/10 times it's probably trouble haha.
Malphael ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:34:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't matter how stupid the people are, the issue is that you created a panic. Yes, the people here are catastrophically stupid, but it doesn't change the fact that the joke probably cost the county time and money.
TOO_DAMN_FAT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:42:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't tell if you're being ironic...
This is turning into the New Zealand gardening post.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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GligoriBlaze420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you shout fire as a way of over exaggerating or misleading people (eg a candle is in the room or a match or something), then fuck yes you should be punished. That shit is scary and most people believe it or not don't want to die. So they'll freak out.
That's on you. And it's illegal for very good reason.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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GligoriBlaze420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you understand the concept of intent? If you say something stupid with the intent to panic people and fuck with their heads, you deserve to be punished. I don't care if they told people the sky was blue. What matters is if they intended to scare people and cause fear. That's fucking illegal.
And I live in the US kiddo. Maybe you should actually study the law before you pretend to know anything about it.
Malphael ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:32:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No laws against telling facts. What does that even mean? If I tell someone confidential information that I can't disclose, that is a crime, even though I am just telling facts...
The issue is intent to cause harm, not the truth or falsity of the statement
brot_und_spiele ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure that the local water utility needing to make a press release due to multiple inquiries about the security of the water supply is strictly equal to a stampede in a theater. I don't think anyone was trampled in the execution of this joke, nor was a riot incited. I think that's why all charges were dropped. Brining a felony charge against them would have been a frivolous charge, in my opinion. If a riot had broken out, certainly such charges would have been merited though. I think it's a no harm, no foul situation. The local authorities were doing some saber rattling to try to dissuade others from pulling the same time-wasting stuff though -- and I think that's appropriate.
Malphael ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maliciously costing the govt money should certainly be a crime.
Also, this is like shouting fire in a crowded theater when the fire in question is a cigarette lighter.
tempacn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:30:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not its not. your example would be closer to saying "omg water is coming out of your tap" which would just make you look crazy.
it's closer to if the manager came in and started screaming "omg the film projector is getting hot".
ZombiegeistO_o ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:54:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The problem comes when they are telling people the water is bad. A lot of people don't know that dihydrogen monoxide is water, so when they hear people on the radio saying not to drink, cook, or shower in the water, and that's all they say then it is kind of inciting a panic. All it takes is a few old people (I'm sure they have a couple of those in Florida) to catch that snippet of the show, and boom panic. But, saying it is warranted to be a felony is a bit much.
shhhtheyarelistening ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 18:37:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i feel like most news channels should be accountable for all the panic they've been inciting about over exaggerating everything in life.
IdealHavoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
China does this... there are some downsides to holding news outlets accountable for exaggerations.
I think its best to encourage advanced education so that it is harder to get people riled up by exaggerated news. So, we will make it a felony punishable by life in ADX Florance to not have a doctorate degree; that should fix it.
decemberpsyche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I won't hold my breath.
Feroshnikop ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 18:32:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't it be more like yelling "AIR!" at a movie theatre and everyone panicking because they stupidly confused someone yelling a word with someone announcing a need to escape.
[deleted] ยท 178 points ยท Posted at 18:38:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 18:46:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
70%!!!
ManjiBlade ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:11:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
70%!!!???? Wait a minute...
Seventy divided by the amount of hairs on gabe newell's back growth gives us 7
There's 7 deadly sins...if we take away envy, sloth, pride, and lust from the group, the 4 sins that manifest in any neckbeard still making these half-life jokes, then we have 3 left.
Half Life 3 confirmed.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually around 78% :)
ManjiBlade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:36:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Come on man :(
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:( Don't be sad, then you make me sad.
iamsmilebot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:)
i am a bot, and i want to make you happy again
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/totallynotrobots
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
80% actually
tomgreen99200 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 18:45:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a nitrogen leak, quick, smash all the windows at your place of work.
TatchM ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:04:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not helping! Nitrogen levels are remaining steady! What do I do!?
Jackpot777 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 19:08:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sweet Jesus, it's an INERT gas. Do you have ANY idea what that means, chemically? Do you have ANY idea what could happen?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is diatomic nitrogen itself in its non-polar covalent bond inert? Because it is not a noble gas.
geniice ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:29:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Strictly helium and Neon are the only noble gasses left without unambiguous neutral compounds.
Diatomic nitrogen is considered inert enough at room temperature and pressure to be considered inert under though conditions.
SleestakJack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is not to say that many of the other "noble" gasses make it EASY to form compounds. For lots of them you generally have to bend over backwards, but it has been done.
rurikloderr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:07:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or bring in some fluorine.. fluorine will bond with anything.
SleestakJack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:26 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thus Xenon Tetrafluoride
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does this mean Neon and helium are the only atoms that do not form covalent or ionic bonds?
geniice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Helium and Neon are the only noble gasses not known to form unambiguous neutral compounds.
They will form covalent bonds but not neutral ones.
SleestakJack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:28:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Inert and noble are not the same thing. Noble is a particular family of elements, inert just generally means REALLY non-reactive.
For example, glass and polypropylene are generally considered to be inert.
deyesed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:02:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Legitimate concern when working with liquid nitrogen.
Smauler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, nitrogen leaks have killed people before.
If there's a large enough nitrogen leak to reduce the oxygen around you to too low levels, you will die without even noticing.
Like I said, it has happened, and you're only really at risk if you're in an enclosed space, and working with nitrogen, which is very few people.
tomgreen99200 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:36:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same with any gas I suppose. Maybe not the not noticing part but you get it.
Smauler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every gas can kill you if not in normal concentrations? Of course.
Inert gasses like nitrogen and helium don't kill you directly, but they can replace the oxygen without you knowing. There are plenty of gasses that will kill you directly, though.
joe_m107 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure I would notice if I died.
Smauler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not with nitrogen poisoning, you wouldn't. That's what makes it so dangerous.
joe_m107 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. I was mostly joking. I watched a video of experiment where pigs could put their heads into an enclosed trough to eat, but it was filled with nitrogen. The pigs would pass out and the researchers would drag them out into fresh air. When they awoke, they would immediately stick their head back into the nitrogen filled trough to get more food.
Royalflush0 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:50:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a way better comparison than yelling Air or Cinema
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"There is a spooky skeleton inside of you!"
therevengeofsh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:58:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OH My GOd! Get it out!
LukaCola ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:50:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That actually very well could cause a panic though... Hell, just misunderstanding "nitrogen" or not knowing what it is (quite likely, not because people are stupid, it's easy to forget in such a situation) could really freak people out and people tend to feed off each other's reactions.
I mean even if you did hear nitrogen and knew perfectly well it's inert, you might very easily believe you misheard them and would leave anyway cause someone is yelling in a panic about the room being filled with something.
greg19735 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:25:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or - shouting the theatre is filled with gas.
iexiak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
some people in this room are creating organic compounds as we speak and plan to unleash them on this unsuspecting crowd
LOOK THERES ONE NOW
But that guys just breathing?
WATCH OUT HES RELEASING THE CO2!
Flomo420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God help us if he releases a small blast of hydrogen sulfide.
geniice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or you know nitrogen asphyxiation.
IgnitedSpade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If the room was filling with additional nitrogen it could very well be a panic for more informed people. The nitrogen would replace the oxygen in the air and you would die by asphyxiation. The scary part is that you wouldn't even feel short on breath because that's caused by co2 buildup, which you still breath out.
kjhwkejhkhdsfkjhsdkf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This example exactly underlines the point being made, stating a fact that is harmless but preying upon the ignorance of others for an effect. Intent really is key here.
4_jacks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd run the hell out of that room!
Sickballs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:01:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bingo. Correct analogy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome point :)
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:21:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not everybody has the education to learn what Dihydrogen Monoxide is. I didn't know until I read about the pranks online. I think it's a bit of a dick move to make fun of people like that, personally.
Feroshnikop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one's being made fun of. (not in the original prank anyways)
The only way to look like an idiot is by acting on this information when you have no idea what dihydrogen monoxide is.
Like if someone tells you we need to ban "gggh" would you just say "ok, done".. or would you maybe find out what "gggh" was before you committed to banning it?
Besides that... if it's a dick move to lie to someone on APRIL FOOLS day, well there's no avoiding that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well looking the info, people called their local utility companies, which is pretty much exactly what you should do in that situation, I feel anyway - and these probably aren't people that are either greatly educated or up to date with tech.
I dunno. I'd imagine it was more grandmas and grandpas, and you know that lots of them are pretty gullible. I'm pretty good with chemistry, so I might check twice, but I'm not sure if I could say the same for my grandmother.
It's just one thing to joke about a celebrity being in hospital or dinosaurs being discovered and some poisonous chemicals being in the water supply. I wouldn't mess around with water, food, or radiation.
From my short experiences as a radio presenter you should really have your audience and location in mind...in a for-youth radio station in the NYC? Yeah, sure, they know their stuff pretty well. On a country music station in south florida? Maybe not so much.
Sorry for the spam, my mind is slightly gone. I get your side as well - I don't want you to agree. This is just my side.
jonnyp11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you pretty good with chemistry, but couldn't figure out dihydrogen monoxide?
It's kinda surprising though that utility employees aren't constantly reminded that these pranks could happen, especially around April fools day
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was enough for me take a few minutes to get what was going on.
TheFuckingIntern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't rocket science. You can google it and find the answer in about 30 seconds.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:08:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if they're old and don't have good access (or knowledge of how to access) it? What if they're too poor for that? This is Florida we're talking about.
TheFuckingIntern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the list of technicalities can go on forever. I'm sure some of the callers would fall into those technicalities but most just don't have enough sense to google something before panicking.
[deleted] ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 18:36:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except fire itself is very dangerous. This is like yelling "OXYGEN!" in a movie theatre and getting punished because some idiots thought that oxygen was a dangerous chemical. Maybe you shouldn't be so fast to defend stupidity?
NoRodent ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 18:50:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fun fact is, oxygen is a dangerous chemical. Just like dihydrogen monoxide. It only depends on the circumstances.
Mitosis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's used by living cells specifically because it's reactive as hell. Makes it easier to get the energy compared to more inert gases like nitrogen.
KiltedCobra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:42:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your body is slowly burning because of oxygen.
...Well, it's oxidation occuring in your body and things on fire are undergoing oxidation, just violently...
...Also your body needs to do this oxidation to perform its basic functions...
...But this is why we take anti-oxidants, to reverse some of the effects of oxidation.
Tl;dr: Your body is on fire and it's supposed to be
MattieShoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flammable as hell, reactive with a whole host of materials including some metals (eventually rendering them structurally unsound) and carbon, which is the primary building block for all life on earth.
LampCow24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:05:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work in a chemistry lab; oxygen is the enemy for most stuff we do
MattieShoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It even ruins beer!
hoy89 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:01:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Breathing in pure oxygen is actually quite toxic. Fun fact.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Over prolonged periods. If you breath it in straight for 30 minutes, you aren't going to die/harm yourself.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:11:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And it's used as an emergency procedure when a scuba diver is suffering from 'the bends' before they can get them to a hyperbaric chamber.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Breathing in pure dihydrogen monoxide is also fairly dangerous.
u38cg2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun though.
Cru_Jones86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% of people who inhale oxygen WILL DIE!
xanatos451 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 18:46:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dihydrogen monoxide is dangerous too. Inhalation can cause death and long term exposure causes death 100% of the time.
thaliart ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 19:09:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Nazis used Dihydrogen monoxide in their showers
skalpelis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:28:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, not in all of their showers.
shieldvexor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is one of the best I've heard so far
gnusmas- ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:11:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is incredibly addictive. The longer one goes without it, the more they crave it. On the flip side, attempts to wean oneself off the chemical are also fatal 100% of the time. Once you become addicted, you can never become un-addicted.
betaray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's so sad, because the vast majority of us are exposed to dihydrogen monoxide in the womb. We never had a chance!
Flomo420 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:24:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exposure to dihydrogen monoxide can cause some metals to corrode... and they expect us to actually drink this stuff??
oozles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whoa there... I have a problem with your death figures. I don't think they take into account modern advances. Its like saying microorganisms and infection are responsible for the vast majority of all deaths in war. While that may have been true at one point, it isn't nearly as relevant today.
As a matter of fact... every single living person on Earth (with a few exceptions) has frequently come into contact with dihydrogen monoxide and show no sign of adverse effects.
Lets look towards the future and focus on the health and growth rate of infants and toddlers. Within merely a year infants more than double their weight and before 4 years double their height. Compare that to our past, the oldest man and women alive. They experience illnesses and difficulties that are incredibly uncommon to people born even 20 years after them. Just look at the rates of dementia in people born in the 50's vs born in the 70's. And compare that to people born after 2000!
The times are changing. The only logical conclusion that can be reached is that mankind has experienced a tremendous leap in our evolution over the past 80 years and are showing to be much more tolerant to dihydrogen monoxide, and generally being much more robust. At the rate things are going, by 2100, kids that are alive today may be ruling the world as immortal giants.
chasteeny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh. Long term exposure doesn't cause death 100% of the time. 100% of those exposed in the past have died.
xanatos451 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But of those that have died, they were exposed to FHMO over the course of their entire lives, hence longterm exposure.
IronInforcersecond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:44 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You're all wording it wrong.
100% of deaths have shown a direct correlation with the consumption or overexposure to the dangerous chemical dihydrogen monoxide. This is correct because roughly 7% of all humans ever born are alive right now, so only 93%~ of people exposed have died like /u/chasteeny said. And long term exposure isn't really a buzzword that gets people worried, because people will assume they would've already noticed if it were a problem to them.
Pandemonium ensues as overexposure to life-threatening chemical dihydrogen monoxide causes the deaths of just over 300 Californians since just the start of the summer. That's right Tom, and what's worse is seemingly nothing is being done about it. DHMO poses a dangerous threat to children - particularly infants - with cases of death even just feet away from their devastated parents. A loving mother of 3 children, including her deceased 2 year old boy, Charley, had this to say:
"I didn't know it was happening... It looked like he was just having fun swimming in the pool (sob), I had no idea it was infested with DHMO. How could I have known?"
DHMO raises major concern partly due to the fact that it is completely transparent, and mixes seamlessly with almost any liquid. It lacks even a distinct smell or taste, and signs of harm caused by the substance often go unnoticed even by those watching closely. If you're a parent, it's your job to make sure you understand the symptoms of DHMO poisoning, as it can prove fatal in as little as 5 minutes, sometimes without warning. Dangerous amounts have been traced back to public water supplies in the area, more on DHMO in a minute.
Now the unknowing parent is scared shitless for their children, and is going to wait through the commercial break to hear the rest of it. In a swimming pool? And she had no idea? She was even paying attention? We're staying home, honey, and I'm buying a new water filter.
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brettatron1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or probably better, yelling "NITROGEN!" being that most people would probably recognize oxygen as what we actually use when we breath, but I'm guessing a large number of people would not realize nitrogen makes up a lot of the air we breath.
Goluxas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:11:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was a health blogger that tried to raise a stink because
(Normal atmosphere is 78% nitrogen.)
CoolBeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately she has a devoted flock following her, and the more you prove her wrong the more devoted they become.
stealthXY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oxygen is dangerous too. It can lead to fire.
geniice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Err if a room I'm in gets filled with oxygen I'm leaving. Burning to death in a high oxygen enviroment isn't on my todo list.
SquidLoaf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oxygen is dangerous. Haven't you ever seen fight club?
MonoXideAtWork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FIRE the projectionist.
/edge
stoddish ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More like yelling NITROGEN IS IN THE ROOM and running out in a panic. Or yelling THIS ROOM IS CONTAMINATED WITH RADIATION.
Things that while true, are not fully common knowledge to the world despite you believing it should be (a decent chunk of the population didn't finish high school and even some who did don't have to take chemistry) and would seem dangerous enough to these people that they should panic.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:35:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This doesn't apply to the above case as the literary said water was in the water as opposed to saying fire was in the movie theater when it wasn't. They haven't incited a panic, they are merely stating a fact. Yelling fire in a fire less movie theater is obviously inciting a panic as it isn't a mere statement of fact.
2059FF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yo dawg I heard you like water.
geniice ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:34:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No they didn't. They literally said alarmist garbage name for water was in the water.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
alarmist garbage name? it's just the chemical name
2hydrogen1oxygen = H2O = dihydrogen monoxide = water
They teach this stuff in high school...
Plus it isn't hard to take 5 seconds to just google it.
geniice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The chemical name is water. This may shock you but chemists have to spend a fair bit of time working with non-chemists. We call things by names that people will recognise rather than using poorly applied systematic naming rules.
Its garbage because you don't use the systematic naming rules like that and its alarmists because the rules are being deliberately abused to get that monoxide in there.
2hydrogen1sulfur =H2S=Hydrogen sulfide
If for some reason you wanted to use a systematic name then it would be hydrogen oxide.
caleeky ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't work like that. The entire premise of the joke is the knowledge that some people don't recognise the chemical name for water and will assume it's something else that's dangerous.
As such, anyone deploying the joke should reasonably expect panic over a danger that does not exist. It's not an excuse to say you didn't think of that, because the test is "a reasonable person" - not you the accused.
Zmanwise ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:21:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they assumed a reasonable person would be worried, look up what the hell it is, then have a sensible chuckle?
GothamRoyalty ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're still "inciting a panic" by taking advantage of other people's ignorance.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:14:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The first link that shows up on your edit:
It seems like shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater isn't as illegal as most people think.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_theater
xLabrinthx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:16:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the outcome is obvious.
My_usrname_of_choice ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:35:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More Like yelling "fire" at a fireplace.
BaconAllDay2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It would scare Santa Claus if done at the right time
Trickyyyxx ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:38:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is not like yelling fire in a movie theater. If you're comparing those, then they would have said something along the lines of "ACID IN THE WATER!"...
This is more like (like jjsocrates said) yelling "Cinema!" in a movie theater. When they're just using another word for water as a joke and people are so stupid to even bother looking it up before panicking considering water is something they've been using since they were formed in their mothers fucking womb, then they probably should not bother using water at all.
GlyphGryph ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:56:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"There's ACID in the orange juice! WATCH OUT!"
SciGuy013 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:42:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The water could be slightly acidic! Or it could be basic too, to be fair
Francis__Underwood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I know dihydrogen monoxide. She's a basic bitch.
m0sh3g ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is actually hydric acid
2059FF ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:51:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More like yelling "Rapid oxidation!"
lostmywayboston ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:57:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yelling anything in a movie theater is going to incite panic. On top of that, yelling "FIRE!" when there is no fire is completely different.
If somebody starts telling you facts and you deem it scary, that seems to be more on you than the person telling it to you.
Halvus_I ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:36:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The 'FIRE!' litmus test works against you. IN the ruling that cites this, SCOTUS found the danger has to imminent and immediate.
ayesee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:40:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If the word "triggered" ever applied to me, it would be any time this example is trotted out to explain why protected speech isn't protected.
The fire in a crowded theater example came from the odious judge Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. to silence Yiddish speaking immigrants from passing out anti-war and anti-draft pamphlets during WW1. It is no longer a part of US law regarding speech, and while it was, shined as one of the most egregiously bad rulings and precedents set by the high court.
The current standard for free speech limits is and has been for some time that of Imminent Lawless Action.
_Imma_Fuken_Shelby_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is in no way like yelling fire... More like yelling "THERE ARE MOVIES PLAYING IN THIS THEATER"
Pantzerfaust ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:31:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is more like yelling 'FIRE' in a theatre while you lit a lighter. It is technically true, but you can still be punished for it.
yoinker272 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:35:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Naw it is more like yelling, "oxygen!" in a way that could lead morons to think you were yelling fire.
Pantzerfaust ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:36:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sure
sheepiroth ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:40:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i don't know, i can see the opposite side of the argument here. there are SO many scary "you might silently die in your sleep to an undetected gas" commercials that exist to sell carbon monoxide detectors and services etc.
it's not unreasonable to make the argument that some people listening misheard or got the idea that it was a similar thing, without thinking about it. it's almost exactly like yelling FIRE in a crowded auditorium as a "prank". sure, people should know better, but the chance of causing harm is real
one_last_drink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's really not though. It's more akin to telling someone their epidermis is showing.
sheepiroth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sure, if you're 1-on-1 with just one person
however, radio hosts can broadcasts to thousands or hundreds of thousands of people, some of who may panic and cause harm to themselves or others in their paniced state
one_last_drink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess it comes down to how it was presented. I'd like to hear a recording of what was actually said or at least read a transcript. If they were saying shit like, "the water isn't safe! It's filled with DHMO!" Then yea I can understand the problem and the yelling fire analogy makes sense.
UlisesBrambila ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/iamverysmart
SilasX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's more like saying, "OMG the theater is at a high energy state!" -- i.e. something trivial that people shouldn't be worried about, and then people misinterpret you as meaning the theater is on fire and then calling in a false fire alarm.
fixingthebeetle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:59 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It would be like yelling fire, if there actually was a fire. That's perfectly legal. If people are scared of water that's their own problem. The legal system would be fucked up if you're responsible for every single possible misinterpretation of every sentence you say. Imagine the chaos.
Caitlyn_has_a_Boner ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:39:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is not against the law to yell fire in a crowded theater, that is a bullshit myth.
tearsofaBillsfan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:47:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is not entirely accurate...if you are doing it for the purposed of inciting a riot, you can, in fact, be found guilty by a judge. While there is not technically a law in writing stating this is illegal, the only "logical" reason for someone falsely yelling this in a crowded venue is against the law.
Caitlyn_has_a_Boner ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:55:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, it is entirely accurate. Being arrested for something that is not against the law will never hold up in court. It is just a bullshit libtard myth.
xLabrinthx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you'd like to delete all your posts, no one is going to be mad. Have a nice day.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=yelling+fire+in+a+crowded+theater+case
Caitlyn_has_a_Boner ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:05:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you know that supreme court decision was never a binding law and that the court decision was overturned in 1969? Fucking retard. Go delete your life from this planet you dumbfuck.
xLabrinthx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would you like me to Google your own reply for you, as well? Alright. Fine.
"The First Amendment holding in Schenck was later overturned by Brandenburg v. Ohio in 1969, which limited the scope of banned speech to that which would be directed to and likely to incite imminent lawless action (e.g. a riot). The test in Brandenburg is the current High Court jurisprudence on the ability of government to proscribe speech after that fact. Despite Schenck being limited, the phrase "shouting fire in a crowded theater" has since come to be known as synonymous with an action that the speaker believes goes beyond the rights guaranteed by free speech, reckless or malicious speech, or an action whose outcomes are obvious".
They knew it was going to cause a panic. That was why it was funny to them. To laugh at stupid people. And that is why it's illegal. I'm done, now.
Caitlyn_has_a_Boner ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:15:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is not illegal you dumbfuck. Go read Hess v. Indiana (1973). In this case, the court found that Hess's words did not fall outside the limits of protected speech, in part, because his speech "amounted to nothing more than advocacy of illegal action at some indefinite future time,"[1] and therefore did not meet the imminence requirement. Stupid fucking reddit retard, go die in a fire.
xLabrinthx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try harder.
Seriously, man?
Caitlyn_has_a_Boner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try harder?? Are you fucking retarded?? What you just posted proves me right. You stupid reddit retard. Go kill yourself.
vortexofdoom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did YOU know that the 1969 ruling merely limited the scope of non-protected speech to inciting dangerous behavior (ie. shouting fire yadda yadda) and the overturned verdict was about distributing anti-draft leaflets?
I did, because I read the link you posted.
Caitlyn_has_a_Boner ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:29:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's your point you fucking retard? the original case had nothing to do with yelling fire, IIRC it was just an example the court used as an example. You stupid reddit dumbfuck. You can yell fire in any theater in American and there isn't jack shit anyone can do about it. Stubborn dumbfuck, just admit you are wrong and the fire in a theater shit is a bullshit myth. Now suck my dick you dumbass faggot.
vortexofdoom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My point is the example still stood after the ruling as an example of non-protected speech.
You wouldn't be prosecuted for the use of the phrase, but you could be prosecuted if a riot broke out for inciting a riot (which IS illegal). The rulings are simply legal precedent that you would not be able to use "free speech" as a defense in such a case.
Caitlyn_has_a_Boner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But you CAN use free speech as a defense, that's what the courts final decision was. I can use dogshit on your forehead as a defense if I wanted to. There are no limitations of defense in a courtroom you dumbfuck. Stupid stubborn reddit dumbfuck. Typical fucking retard, knows he is wrong but will do everything he can to pretend he is not. Go fucking kill yourself you dumbfuck worthless sack of shit.
vortexofdoom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:10:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but dogshit on your forehead doesn't count as free speech and neither does yelling fire in a crowded theater. The whole point of both rulings was that there are limits to free speech, and what was debated was exactly what those limits were.
Caitlyn_has_a_Boner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it was debated, but never made illegal. Give up kid. You are getting dumber by the second.
asimplydreadfulerror ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:41:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
No, it is not like that at all. Yelling fire in a crowded theater is making a false statement that has the capability of creating an actual dangerous situation (i.e. people trampling one another as they attempt to evacuate).
Stating "dihydrogen monoxide is coming out of people's taps" is not a false statement.
Edit: Does the person that downvoted me have any interest in refuting the statement I made? I am genuinely curious as to your reasoning.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:37:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Crashlight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was factual but it was almost presented in a way that incited undue panic.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:30:15 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Crashlight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Morons are people too. And I would argue they aren't dumb, they are just being mislead. Get off your high horse.
N3onToil3tPap3r ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:09:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like yelling "Movie!!" In a crowded fire house?
xLabrinthx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This would be illegal as the intended goal would be to make all the firemen try to use the firepole at the same time, causing injury. You sick fuck. /s
Reddit-TheBoredGame ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:10:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but it only incites a riot for the stupid people. The best possible outcome is for them to go on a water strike and die out.
Or maybe I could start a side business of providing Dihydrogen Monoxide detectors which would be small colored capsules that, in the presence Dihydrogen Monoxide dissolve and grow into dinosaur-shaped sponges.
Caitlyn_has_a_Boner ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is not illegal to yell fire in a movie theater, that is a bullshit myth.
servohahn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:43:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_Mooninite_panic#Subsequent_scare
Deliphin ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:28:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was for a false claim about the water safety, which is a felony.
Though, given that it's technically true, I would have fought that.
TheHYPO ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:35:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless they said "oh no, DHMO! Don't drink the water! It's not safe!" or "Dangerous levels of DHMO!" - since we don't know exactly what they said, we can't really judge
salvation122 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can probably find a way to construe "dangerous levels of DHMO" as 100% accurate.
ptown40 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:40:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If they stated true facts, the case wouldn't have gotten very far, you can't be charged with a felony on the grounds of "false claim about the water safety" if what they said was true. If all they did was say a bunch of true stuff about water but replaced water with DHMO their lawyer would have no problems.
TheHYPO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you said "you shouldn't drink the water, it's not safe because there's DHMO in it", the fact there's DHMO in it may not be false, but the "it's not safe" part or the "you shouldn't drink it" part is. Again, we don't know what they said.
zyra_main ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best kind of truth
TastesLikeBees ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:07:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Source? Nothing I can find shows they claimed anything other than H2O was coming out of the taps.
Deliphin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:23:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...The first source /u/YouKnowItWell gave. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/02/florida-water-prank/2046639/
""My understanding is it is a felony to call in a false water quality issue," said Diane Holm, a public information officer for the Florida Department of Health in Lee County, because a false report can affect a large segment of the population."
TastesLikeBees ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:28:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I read it. It gives no information indicating they did anything other than telling people H2O was coming out of the taps. That's not reporting a false water quality issue.
Deliphin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:30:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
..Which is why I said I would have fought that. They said it in a misleading fashion.
TastesLikeBees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We have no transcript, it's hard to know what they said.
seimungbing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i mean, dihydrogen monoxide is a highly corrosive chemical, and it kills 100% of the organic material it came into contact, im sure you dont want any of them getting into your water supply right?
Exemus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How's that saying go?
Stupidity is a crime, so you're under arrest.
GlyphGryph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least the suspension was only temporary.
Joverby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
right!?!? they straight up told everyone that WATER was coming out of their taps.... how could they possible get in trouble / need to apologise for people being fucking idiots and not knowing basic chemistry?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This just just radio in a nutshell sadly. That's why podcasts are becoming so popular.
TheRealBigLou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It depends on how they phrased their alerts. If they were saying something like "don't drink, prepare food with, or shower with water because it contains DHMO", then that's pretty sketchy.
toothofjustice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on how they framed the joke. If they said "warning, we're getting reports of a dangerous chemical, dihydrogen monoxide, coming out of taps county wide" that's grossly misleading. Stating that it's dangerous is incorrect and causes undue alarm for people who are ignorant about science.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say a felony is a bit above and beyond, but if you're a media person who is deliberately trying to trick listeners it's understandable why they were suspended. No one would expect Matt Lauer to say "we've been invaded by aliens, please everyone stay inside for the rest of the work day"... 5 hours later "April fools bitches!". I don't know why lesser media outlets should be allowed to do some Onion type things and not have some consequences. People listen to the news, whether it's TV, paper, radio, why should radio guys get a pass because they usually just play music with news updates periodically?
tomanonimos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The problem was that they implied the water is unsafe. That's the underlying problem.
It's the water equivalent of screaming fire in a theater.
Teqnique_757 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The difference was because this was not a CONTROLLED EXPERIMENT.
Macemoose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you have no problem with the media intentionally misleading people?
lunartree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For infringing on the long tradition of Florida resident's right to be morons.
sahuxley2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is key. If they actually told people to stop drinking it or that it's unsafe, that's creating a false panic.
gutter_dude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To you this may seem stupid, because it is obvious to you what dihydrogen monoxide refers to. But to someone who does not know (perhaps not even due to low intelligence--simply lack of education), this could understandably sound legitimate and be a serious concern. I am almost certain that if I issued an official warning about pyridoxine found in food, most people wouldn't realize that I'd be talking about vitamin B and be serious concerned. If you knew what pyridoxine was, I'm sure I can think of something else that is more obscure and just as innocuous. Can't really fault people for lack of education.
SpecialEdShow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More for the fact that they caused mass panic on a certain level even if completely harmless.
carbonxe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's Florida, land of the stupid. There was a post on here a few weeks ago about a public outrage about someone saying the word "penis." The word was somehow more offensive than the fact that a teacher accidentally showed his students a picture of his cock.
HelpEcuador ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well if you think about it, if that station got even 100 people to switch from being tap water drinkers to bottled water drinkers and they tell their friends tap water is dangerous then it's really the environment and everyone else the radio host is hurting. Maybe all the people listening aren't native English speakers they don't know what the scientific term for water is. It's a stupid April fools joke but they can't control how many people actually find out its a joke. A person could listen switch the channel and then be afraid of their water supply.
pustulio18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It depends on what exactly they said. I'm looking for a transcript but I can't seem to find one. TheWire article alludes to them saying not to drink the water. Without knowing what they said it is hard to judge.
If they said 'There is 'chemical' in your water, do not drink the water.' I'm not sure if it matters what the chemical is, saying not to drink the water (if it is safe) on a radio broadcast would be illegal.
In most tapwater there are a ton of chemicals. In many communities there are low levels of arsenic (still safe to drink). The radio host in that area can't say 'Beware! There is arsenic in your water! Do not use your water, it has arsenic in it!' if the water is safe to drink. Sure there is arsenic but it isn't a health problem and you are broadcasting on a federally regulated frequency.
So it really depends on the context and without a transcript we don't know what was said.
btoxic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:31 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
meanwhile a local station had suspended their DJ's for buying heroin in a beaver suit.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:30:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The same reason Americants downvote when you tell them other unpleasant truths about their country.
Think of it as a 'downvote'
TripleChubz ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 18:24:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Had to look this up- they got their jobs back, thankfully. Sheesh!
[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 18:57:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They'd sue the ever living fuck out of their former employer if they didn't.
caseycoold ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:14:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is Florida an "at will employment" state? In New York they can be fired for no reason. Or because their boss didn't like their joke.
Note: I think they should not be fired. It's an old joke, and it takes two seconds to figure out.
TripleChubz ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 19:34:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, this is Florida we're talking about here.
dan_doomhammer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:41:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
49/50 states are at will employment.
caseycoold ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
IronInforcersecond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:15 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is the missing state?
dan_doomhammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:55 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Montana. Don't ask me why.
Korashy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:53:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
At will employment only works when your fire someone without telling them why. They were probably told exactly why they were placed on indefinite suspension and why they were/would have been sacked. in that case it's wrongful termination.
edit: Maybe not particularly in this case, but certainly if it's due to things like sexism, or because of ethnic hair/religious symbols that aren't covered by a dress code requirement before hand.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Contacts are excluded for at will. I assume a lot of hosts work on contract.
caseycoold ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh ok, thanks!
Aeonoris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They are incorrect. IANAL either, but: In an at-will state, to prove wrongful termination the employee must prove that public policy would encourage the behavior that the employee was fired over.
An additional requirement is to prove that the employer was either exercising bad faith, retaliating against the employee, or acting maliciously.
From what it sounds like, public policy specifically discouraged this behavior, which is enough to toss the case on its own. I'd bet they would also have a really hard time arguing bad faith here as well, and basically impossible to prove retaliation or malicious intent.
caseycoold ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see. That's complicated. I know my company we don't do a lot, even if we know we are in the right, simply to avoid getting sued. Even if we are right, it costs money to fight.
xilpaxim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They probably had a contact.
BRUTALLEEHONEST ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:24 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can be fired for any reason, but shortly thereafter the company can be sued for a multitude of reasons as well. So you still have to be careful
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. You were right about no reason. This is an illegal reason, no different than firing them because they found out you're gay or something.
caseycoold ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:40:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why is this an illegal reason? It's not a protected status. (serious question)
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:03:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ever hear of wrongful termination? I bet they had a contract and/or employee handbook, I guarantee neither of which was violated by the stunt.
caseycoold ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:12:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't answer my question.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:19:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep!
caseycoold ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:21:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I know that's the safer route.
But I'm pretty sure you are still ok to fire someone for any, non-protected reason, aren't you? I guess that's a better wording of my question. I'll have to ask HR tomorrow. Though I may get funny looks.
TNine227 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...sue for what? That's a totally legal reason to fire someone.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wrongful termination. I bet they had at least a contract that was violated.
TNine227 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, getting your station threatened with a lawsuit and tons of angry listeners sounds like pretty rock solid grounds for termination.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:16 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have hearing problems then. A bogus lawsuit and angry listeners don't matter. In fact, angry listeners can be good. Angry listeners is a big part of why Howard Stern did so well.
TNine227 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:38:54 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, hearing problems, nice.
And if the employer doesn't agree with that?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:00 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. I appreciate that you saw what I did there.
Contract! Look at the contract. I bet you that is why they were allowed back. I bet the station's attorney told the station that they were going to get bent over and done dry in court.
mechapoitier ยท 276 points ยท Posted at 18:36:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's horrifying is the implication.
With the kid, it showed that kids should learn something from this and be more open to analyzing and strengthening their own critical thinking.
With the adults, it basically said people are irredeemably stupid so you get punished for making them look like fools, since they won't learn anything from this.
[deleted] ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 19:03:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, when you're not getting punished by them for making feel bad for being stupid, you're getting shit on by them because they are too stupid to be responsible. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't. If you're going to be damned, might as well have some fun.
HZCYR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kacey Musgraves reference?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No?
HZCYR ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:26:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough. Similar lyrical lines in "Follow Your Arrow". I just saw it and thought, 'reference?'
toadofsteel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:35:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What it tells me is that Idaho (the state where Zohner attended school) took the lesson to heart, while Florida is a backwards 3rd world country that should be kicked out of the Union before winter sets in and they complain about how 75 degrees is "cold".
vhalember ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:29:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever. The air surrounding you has so much dioxide it helps sustain flames. This dioxide is responsible for the west wildfires, and we need to take steps to remove it from the air.
calivino ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:57:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hitler constantly inhaled dioxide, Stalin, Joseph frizzle alll inhaled dioxide. Ban dioxide!!!!!
stoddish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Less making them look like fools and more "making" them make dangerous decisions. Like when the guy read War of the Worlds on the radio and people thought there was an alien invasion and some people committed suicide.
HuoXue ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:58:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's a different sort of fool-making, though. There is no active threat in claiming a chemical is dangerous, but telling someone there's something coming to kill them makes it into a thinking, breathing entity that you need to flee from.
Dokkaan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is an active threat in saying the water coming out of your taps has a dangerous chemical in it
granadesnhorseshoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the point is something akin to getting in trouble for shouting "OH MY GOD! THE THEATER ISN'T ON FIRE!" in a crowded theater.
It's factually true but it still starts a panic, however stupid that panic may be.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:57:37 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People as a whole are not irredeemably stupid. As a whole, people are quite sensible and intelligent. The spread is quite large though, and the bottom 10-15% - oh boy. Morons.
Pence128 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:49 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I came to a different interpretation.
With the kids, they're not really considered people*, more like super intelligent animals. Nathan did the most sciencey science at the science fair, so he got
best in showfirst prize. The feelings of his classmates are irrelevant.With the irredeemably stupid adults, you are punished for making them embarrass themselves. They believe that they are above average intelligence and that believing everything said by anyone important enough to be on the radio is the way that other above average intelligence people learn things. The way that they interpret the things you say is your responsibility. Now that you've been punished they can go back to their favorite important looking person and believe everything they say, confident that every word is the absolute truth. They probably don't know what critical thinking is or if they do, dismiss it as "stupid nerd shit."
Irredeemable stupidity is developed in school where they are taught to believe everything the important looking person at the front of the room says as if it were the absolute truth. There's no critical thinking on the test.
* Consider bullying: "I don't care who started it, I'm finishing it." If you are attacked and defend yourself, you are both equally guilty of making someone do actual work. You have to apologize to each other and shake hands. At best, your attacker will be "punished" with a few days vacation. It's not about right or wrong, it's about making the fight stop with the least possible amount of effort, like you would with dogs. Only adults are important enough to break out phrases like "assault and battery" and "self defense."
tachyonicbrane ยท 306 points ยท Posted at 18:25:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
people get angry when they find out how stupid they are. Then they have to ruin someone else's day/life
KeepItRealTV ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 18:59:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Making me feel my own stupidity should be a felony!"
mygoodnight ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:26:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
โIt's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.โ -Abraham Lincoln
tikiman7771 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:28:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the Trump quote man.
llllIlllIllIlI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:34:56 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this is the Bush years all over again. Can we stop calling him dumb?
Call him a crook if you want, or a shady dealer, or a hack with no political experience but don't call him stupid. Look at where he stands today...
3urny ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:43:22 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see no contradiction.
llllIlllIllIlI ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:36:15 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just feel that most of the people calling a guy who could be leader of the free world "stupid"... Well they probably couldn't win a seat on their city's legislature.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:59:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Stagism ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:34:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe that's the difference in stupidity and ignorance.
smilingstalin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, what are you, stupid?
tachyonicbrane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:06 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean the smart thing to do is to not be a douchebag if you find out you didnt know something. Literally no one knows everything, there's no shame in not knowing something but there is shame in being willfully ignorant and douchebagging on top of it.
fuckCARalarms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
exactly ,when they found out it was water, instead of just laughing at themselves they doubled down for being tricked. Some people need to learn to laugh at themselves.
Swineflew1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know the atomic makeup of anything off the top of your head? U MAD?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I daresay most people know at least 1
tachyonicbrane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:18 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but I also have a Master's degree so I wouldn't expect everyone to know everything. I WOULD expect people not to be total douchebags when they don't know something however.
ScottieKills ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:54:48 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uhh.... MANY things?
toga_virilis ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 18:22:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was also done on an episode of Penn and Teller's Bullshit, iirc.
TedTheGreek_Atheos ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:44:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
In an episode called "Environmental Hysteria" that made fun of people that believed in global warning.
He did the dihydrogen monoxide bit on a bunch of "liberal hippies" to show how gullible environmentalists are.
Luckily they had a Cato Institute researcher set the audience straight that there's no scientific data behind climate change.
Did I mention Penn Jillett is a Cato Institute fellow? Well, he didn't...
http://www.cato.org/people/penn-jillette
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:17:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thats the thing though. Almost anyone is gullible when it comes to something they think is being mistreated. I am sure you could tell Penn that the Chinese are subverting our economy through cheap labor and social practices and he wouldn't even question it bc he is a libertarian.
fixingthebeetle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:33 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I.. what? Set them straight? Are we talking about the same Penn? He has always seemed like a really smart switched on guy, didn't think he would be a climate change denier
PopeCumstainIIX ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which aired in early 2003. Hindsight is always 20/20.
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PopeCumstainIIX ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:13:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Which Penn
refutedrecanted as more evidence was revealed.pldl ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:28:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Recanted, not refuted.
PopeCumstainIIX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough.
ANGLVD3TH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC they were going to do an episode where they bashed themselves for all the kind of things like that they pulled on the show, but it didn't live long enough :s I guess the point was to come off as too strong for everything, making them look like assholes, but then soften it a bit at the end by pretty much saying "See, we just did it to you too! And we, as humans, are just as susceptible to it!"
AssaultedCracker ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:35:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never liked that guy, or any of the stuff he produces, without really knowing why. It's good to finally have a reason.
vivaenmiriana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:12 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He admits he was wrong about things and he has episodes about things like the funeral industry, marijuana, alien abductions, ect.
AssaultedCracker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:07 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen some of them. I don't like his blowhard act and now I have a valid reason to not like him as a person. Done and done.
kelbel3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this :)
32BitWhore ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 18:30:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a false report though... they literally told people that they had water coming out of their faucets. It would be more scary if it wasn't Dihydrogen Monoxide coming out.
NotThisFucker ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:36:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is like people not being okay with letting their children adhere their fingers together in school but being cool with playing with Elmer's
Disco_Drew ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:39:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just ask Flint.
Malphael ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 18:38:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The issue is that they lead people to think that the water was unsafe.
If I tell my friends that a guy in clown suit is hanging around the street, following kids around and giving them candy, I am gonna get in a lot of trouble when my friends call the police and it turns out it was a McDonald's promotion and I knew that.
DaddyKoolAid ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:53:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
But you wouldn't get in a lot of trouble. You've accurately relayed some totally true facts which have a perfectly reasonable explanation. If your friends utterly misinterpret that, or react inappropriately, it is not your fault.
You wouldn't get in any trouble. It's called a misunderstanding, and it's not a crime. Let's not make up stories just so we can get angry about them.
If anything, it would be your friends getting in trouble for blindly calling the police about a second hand report of entirely explainable, legal activities.
cal_student37 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:52:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol no you're not.
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 18:49:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:53:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right, how dumb is the person you responded to. LOLz.
Malphael ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 19:26:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Intentionally causing a public disturbance is legal?
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Swineflew1 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:33:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Something like intentionally misleading them to think there is a big danger and causing a panic?
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:47:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Rectalcactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
... there goes my Friday
LaWu ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:23:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If that's all it takes to cause a public disturbance, then lock up ever news anchor and politician ever..
Malphael ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 19:41:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meh, I'm sure I could find some crime it fits. Its not like there isn't enough of them.
Point is, I'm intentionally misrepresenting a fact in a way that I know or should know will cause a panic.
Or what if I stood outside a store and told people the apples they sell contains cyanide which is deadly. Do you think that the store would have no legit grievances against me?
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:46:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Drinkus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean advertising laws exist for this reason to prevent factually correct but misleading information for being used to sell a product, but yeah doesn't apply in these instances.
Astronomist ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:58:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Terrible example, not at all.
Malphael ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 19:25:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. I intentionally or recklessly caused a panic/public disturbance.
tridentgum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is unsafe though?
Malphael ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't matter if the water is unsafe or not.
The question is did they intentionally or recklessly cause a panic over water safety?
tridentgum ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:49:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was more leaning on the "The water is unsafe if you look at it like this* type of argument. If you drink too much, it is unsafe. If you submerge yourself in it for a period of time, it is unsafe.
In those cases, the water really is unsafe. They should have been punished though, claiming this substance "dihydrogen monoxide" was coming out of everybody's faucet - nobody knows water by that name. They effectively claimed some "unknown" substance was going to harm people, not that water would - even if water is exactly what they were talking about.
The water is unsafe, but they obfuscated their meaning by using the chemical name that nobody knows. If they had straight up said "Water itself, which comes out of everybody's faucets, is inherently dangerous and can kill you" then we wouldn't even be discussing this 'cause it'd be a non-issue.
StaccoLatte ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:11:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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tridentgum ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:14:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's be real - most people worldwide wouldn't realize that it's water.
Rectalcactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Context dependent imo
prohibido ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:06:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No you wouldn't, you fucking idiot.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 18:55:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bingo. people are acting like it was harmless fun, just a prank. But it was extremely reckless and yeah, dangerous.
TheGreat_Danton ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 18:28:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it was more "YOU MADE ME LOOK STUPID IN FRONT OF MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY, HOW DARE YOU EXPOSE MY IGNORANCE!!!"
JustThall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:41:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'Murica likes to act stupidly ignorant on camera https://youtu.be/DQhyrwruMYI
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:12:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I could fix this by learning new things often and keeping up with news and reading, or I can retaliate because you exposed my ignorance... I'm going to go with "B"!"
Nabber86 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 18:19:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
Edit: Don't worry. The friends of dihydrogen monoxide are working to dispel this travesty of science. http://www.armory.com/~crisper/DHMO/
ash2102 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 18:45:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What what what.. "Research conducted by award-winning U.S. scientist Nathan Zohner concluded that roughly 86 percent of the population supports a ban on dihydrogen monoxide. "
Z4ppy ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 19:17:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, technically that's completely correct...
YxxzzY ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:38:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
also shows one of the biggest problems in/with statistics
bajuwa ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:46:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a matter of statistics. It's a matter of the strength of one's assumptions. You assume that the award he was was significant. You assume that the research performed was official and well constructed. You assume that by "scientist" they mean "PhD accredited". You assume that being called a "US scientist" means he's nationally recognized, instead of simply being a citizen by birth.
kickopotomus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:37:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, I think what he is pointing out is that you see headlines with some stat i.e. "~86% of the population..." but often times there is a lot of experimental error, especially with sampling. He asked 50 classmates. Such a sample is not representative of the entire population.
bajuwa ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:54:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I consider appropriately selected sample sets (not just sizes) to be part of the "well constructed" point. Also, to keep with the pattern: You assume that "population" refers to global population, not the sample population.
FaggotMcSandNigger ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 19:28:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm going out on a limb here and guessing that statistic is based entirely on the poll he took with his classmates: 43 / 50 = .86
If so, it's kind of ridiculous to extrapolate that to the entire population.
Edit: I should have read the site a bit more.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:32:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Z4ppy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
* Unrepresentative sample.
ash2102 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dat username tho......how accurate?
hornplayer94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is the most stupidly brilliant article I've ever read. The part where they warned about DHMO in swimming pools and as an athletic performance enhancer had me in tears.
Rhynoceros_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Solubility in water: Complete in all proportions
Holy shit. That's good.
fredspipa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dangers of DMHO:
sagan_drinks_cosmos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love that dihydrogen monoxide so transparently means water (H2O) if you only think about it for a second.
If you were really trying to scare people, you could use the name oxidane.
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 18:50:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In 1997 a 14 yr old was awarded for pointing out flaws in thinking....in 2013 people were suspended and apologized for doing the same.
Yeah, definite progress.
akatherder ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:32:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard the whole dihydrogen monoxide bit at least a dozen times in my life (and I remember enough chemistry that I could figure it out in a few seconds anyway) but I get where they're coming from. The experiment in 1997 didn't pose any danger. It was just a "game" at a school.
Announcing on the radio and implying your water supply isn't safe is far-reaching and implies an immediate danger. Someone might panic and act on the information before you say "Haha april fool's." It's like flicking a lighter and yelling "fire!" in a movie theater. Technically true, but it can cause a lot of panic.
If someone said "Hey there's arsenic in your water here's how bad arsenic is for you..." on live radio it would also have some truth behind it. It just so happens the amount of arsenic is so negligible, it isn't harmful (usually). Fears of being poisoned and the inconvenience of not having running water probably aren't the best jokes.
like2000p ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:22:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would be surprised if this hasn't already happened, multiple times.
shawn77 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:32:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Substitute arsenic with fluoride and it is a common thing people rave about.
HenryRasia ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:41:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then again, the BBC once pulled an April fool's "documentary" saying that spaghetti grew on trees. And lots of people believed it.
kagenohikari ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the difference between a study experiment/survey and a prank.
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Social experiment" [GONE WRONG!! IN THE HOOD!!!]
Question...upon being suspended did they run from the office screaming "it's a prank bro, it's a prank bro"
churnedGoldman ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:19:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was a country station, of course.
dungdigger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Talking science on a country station? Those djs should be fired. I assumed this hoax was not on a country station when I was on the djs side. This is like tricking handicapped people, which is wrong.
Cru_Jones86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Former country radio DJ. You should have heard the irate rednecks calling in the first time I played Big and Rich. Those dudes did NOT like having rap mixed in with their country.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it was a rap station there would have been riots.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:56:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So sad:
The more I learn about Florida, the less I like it.
Ar_Ciel ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:28:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fort Myers... of course.
PM_ME_UR_APOLOGY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would never work anywhere else. /s
Ar_Ciel ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:52:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, each region of FL seems to have a theme to its fucked up stories. Fort Meyers and Sarasota tend towards stories of base stupidity. Rural and Central FL places like Lakeland tend to be drug and alcohol related. Violent stories tend to be a theme in Tallahassee (when it's not political fuckery). Racist cop stories tend to come out of the west FL coast and the Tampa Bay area tends towards a grab-bag collection of all of it. There's exceptions, as with all things, but that's the current trend I see now.
toeofcamell ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:49:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LOL
antidense ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:39:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the other hand there were radio hosts that made a woman drink so much water for a contest that she died of dihydrogen monoxide poisoning.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/jury-rules-radio-station-jennifer-strange-water-drinking/story?id=8970712
drunkenpinecone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:08 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They even had health professionals (RN's) call in and tell them that what they were doing could lead to water intoxication. It's dangerous and could kill somebody. They just laughed them off and actually were making jokes about people "getting drunk" from water.
scy1192 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:24:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that looks more like they got in trouble for saying the water utility was contaminated and unsafe
KimH2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:58:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I imagine it falls under the "can't yell fire in a theater" category.
Even if they were really only saying it's 'contaminated' with water people heard 'unsafe water supply' and panicked.
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njm1314 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:16 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've actually been trying to find their exact words but it's proven difficult. The articles never make that assertion though.
nflitgirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They also did this on Penn & Teller's Bullshit.
ApolloOfTheStarz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah 1938 was a crazy time!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is why we can't have nice things
BobbyCock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly dude, only in Florida.
PM_UR_NUDE_BODY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would hate to see what would've happened to Orsen Welles.
dperabeles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TLDR ?
Steven054 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, fluoride calcifies the pituitary gland.
Side note: I sell nice foil hats on etsy if anyone is interested.
Bone-Juice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Florida...that explains that.
Penn and Teller did it long before these guys
marino1310 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably because they were purposely stirring up hysteria and attempting to create a panic situation. Lots of people called the police and were refusing water (since the hosts claimed the water was tainted with it).
Everyone keeps calling people stupid for falling for it but how many of you actually knew what dihydrogen monoxide was before reading any article about it? Now imagine how many people in their 40s and 50s who havent even thought about chemestry in decades hearing about something that sounds similar to carbon monoxide (an extremely poisonous gas that kills hundreds every year) tainting the water supply. People are gonna think its bad.
EdwardtheAverage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
42 year old checking in. I know what it is but even if I didn't I'd always be suspicious of radio DJs on April fool's day.
Alsothorium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a worrying percentage. Thank feck they were allowed back, a little bit of sense.
DanFreedse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course
GikeM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
'Murica, there was a similar one about water in the UK done on a morning TV show watched by most of the country. A joke is a joke. Jeez.
Edit: number 4
FoolZerrand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The "potential felony charge" consisted solely of a news writer speculating. They might as well have said potential treason charge or potential Nobel Peace Prize.
GroundhogNight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They technically weren't doing anything wrong. But they were trying to start a panic.
maz-o ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what do you mean "on April 1st no less"?? that's what an April fools joke is.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not like the charge would stick, but it is hilarious that it was threatened.
Jamesfastboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As fascinating as that is , all I see is ass cheeks.
Donkeynutz33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
every day i lose more respect for people. all these stupid angry people kept blaming the radio hosts for their own stupidity? just... fuck those idiots
KeenanAllnIvryWayans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its unethical to let human beings know how terrible human beings are. Which is why studies like the Milgram studies are banned.
I don't know why, I think its important that we learn why we're so terrible.
mrrx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And just a few days later they were exonerated and placed back on the air : http://www.thewire.com/entertainment/2013/04/florida-dj-indefinite-suspension-didnt-last-very-long/63837/
IDontWantToGrowUpYet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This type of thinking kind of coincides with the current presidential race in the US....
therevengeofsh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ha, Florida Man strikes again.
ResonantClari ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What a wonderful quote.
SimplySincerely ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha that's the county I grew up in and in not in the least bit surprised
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remember War of the Worlds? I think a few people did take that seriously!
MrAlexBradley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was on a country music station. Say no more.
IWasBilbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some local radio station did that last year where I live. Nobody was hurt.
idgaf_about_yr_imgur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shit like this makes me feel real stabby.
TonyzTone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because they were treating it as a prank. Should've just called it an experiment.
2hoodrich4me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Florida, that sxplains it
zyzzogeton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Welp, there's yer problem.
AllergySeason ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People...
GoldenShowe2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hillary is being rewarded with the stupid people's votes for demonstrating the same principal.
Jeffyd93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Floridian dihydrogen monoxide is very dangerous and will kill you. They've been known to cause hallucinations, schizophrenia, short tempered, loss of motor turn signal skills and a severe grey matter reduction and a massive pill addiction. A recent case has reported that a couple who ingested this dihydrogen monoxide actually left their child to be baby sat by an alligator at a pond in Disney world thinking it was the child care facilities. The evidence for this is outstanding as about 50% of news stories contain a Floridian and of those about half are from Jacksonville. The effects from dihydrogen monoxide are almost immediate, as soon as you cross the state line, ultra violet radition for our modern energy resources reacts the crippling dihydrogen monoxide and turns it into gas form and will force choke your ass for a percocet while you proceed to teach a racoon to bow hunt for pythons.
Source:Floridian
PotsyWife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I spent way too long wondering what Johnathon Ross and Russell Brand had to do with any of this..
moonbvby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's crazy that in this day and age where we literally carry devices with access to all of human knowledge in our pockets people are too stupid to do some research on something before freaking out. Especially something they heard on April Fools Day from a radio show that is known for making jokes.
Xvexe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's even more amazing is that people took the time to look up the DoH number before even trying to find out what dihydrogen monoxide is.
Seriously? You don't even want to understand what the potential "contamination" that has been in the water you've been drinking for who knows how long is?
VetProf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"'Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." -Mark Twain.
Frankly, I felt like this quote isn't as accurate on this statement, but eh, it's worth sharing.
Reachforthesky2012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you are familiar with chemical naming conventions the only thing "dihydrogen monoxide" or any scary chemical name really will invoke is the image of carbon monoxide or dangerous substances, things we are taught to fear. You can roll your eyes at the "Stupidity" in retrospect if you'd like but if you're going to broadcast something that is blatantly designed to insight panic to people of various education levels, many of whom have families to worry about I don't know what reaction you expect.
I wonder how many people who are angry at this "stupidity" fell for the same prank the first time they heard it.
Only__in__America ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but it's Florida. It's super easy to pull shit on people there.
Shephero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fancy words for water.
Joliet_Jake_Blues ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, you're telling me there are stupid people in Florida?
Eliju ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remember when Adam Corolla had The Man Show and they set up a table at some busy location to get signatures to end women's suffrage? People were signing left and right. People are suckers for a good pitch.
nicecleatswannaruck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course it was a Florida man.
Jed118 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a terrible webpage (first one)- it took 20 seconds to load bullshit, and during that time it wouldn't let me scroll down to keep reading.
Fuck pages like that.
melodeath516 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking Florida
Viking_Lordbeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of the times Radio Shows will do something like this on purpose to gain publicity and end up getting "suspended" coincidentally on the week they were all scheduled to have a vacation.
Not saying this was the case, but it does happen.
gelinrefira ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stupid people do not like to be shown that they are stupid.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/03/radio-hosts-back-on-air-after-suspension-for-dihydrogen-monoxide-april-fools-joke-thats-h20/ It looks like their suspension was lifted.
xAyrkai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They should have owned it. Gone all the way to court to argue that their claim wasn't about poor water quality, the claim was that there was H2O in the water. Sue whoever fought them thus far.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:24 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to catch the downvote, but this is totally different. The average person has no knowledge of chemistry, even though they should. Saying this on the radio is going to cause panic. Saying it to a chem class as an "experiment" on a bunch of 8th graders is one thing, causing panic is completely different
Mantano ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:09 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All it takes is one r/floridaman
rowdybme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:34 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I briefly googled, but I couldn't find any new info. Did either of these guys find another job or go back on the air?
lunaroyster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:28:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. 2013?
If this happened in the 1960s, I would understand. People didn't have access to information, and this could be a legitimate cause of panic.
But in 2013, you can google this stuff up.
IAmTheWaller67 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:34 on December 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, I used to listen to Val and Scott all the time growing up. Haven't lived in the area in a few years, so I hadnt heard this story.
Man one year they got my mom bad. She called me one morning, frantic, telling me to look up her car and mine, because there had been a vehicle recall (this was around the time of that big Toyota recall).
I looked for 20 minutes and couldnt find a single article outlining what she was talking about. When she got home, she said "look up 'flux capacitor recall', that was the faulty part they mentioned."
Being a BTTF geek, I then realized what day it was and explained to her what a flux capacitor was. It was pretty funny.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It happened on the radio in Atlanta in 2003. A radio host talked about how he heard the water system was contaiminated with this "dangerous chemical". It got picked up by a local news channel that contacted the water management agency about it, and a couple days later a spokesperson put out a press release saying their water system no longer contained the chemical known as dihydrogen monoxide
sibtalay ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:33:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
haha I could MAYBE see this causing a panic before widespread internet, but in 2013, no excuses. It's called Google, bitches. Hell, in high school our chemistry teacher dropped this on us (2000ish), and we figured it out. God damn Florida Man.
NotThisFucker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've said it once and I'll say it again.
Florida is where the devil sends people when they get comfortable in hell.
SlapHappyRodriguez ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:46:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's mass stupidity like this that can end up shaping public policy. it can be much easier for a politician to support a widely accepted stupid idea than to take the time to try to educate people.
[deleted] ยท 843 points ยท Posted at 18:16:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Lina_Inverse ยท 611 points ยท Posted at 18:54:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which also has real world parallels. "If I sign will you get off my doorstep?"
RDCAIA ยท 181 points ยท Posted at 19:50:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've done the opposite. I typically start my "shut it down" routine, before I've heard much of what they've had to say.
Brushed off one petition I might have cared to sign..."Do you care about the...". "No, not today."
I also brushed off a politician who was campaigning at the subway stop. Me, "I already know who I'm voting for." Walked a few steps when I realized He was the guy I was already planning to vote for.
thelotusknyte ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 21:25:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well. You still knew. You weren't wrong.
attorneyatlol ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 22:25:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One time on her way to work my wife was approached by someone from Greenpeace with a clipboard asking, "Are you a good person?". She just yelled "Nope!" and started laughing as she walked away. She thinks the Greenpeace guy started laughing too.
Sirspen ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:56:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I usually just say "sorry, I don't talk to people with clipboards."
Narrative_Causality ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tone matters here.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:00:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just ask them if they want to have sex. Either that sends them running, or I get to have sex. Its a win-win.
(I tell a lie. The only bell-ringers where I live is Jehova's Witnesses, and I have placed blood-donor stickers outside, so they do not enter either. But I would definitely use this tactic if it was an issue.)
KnightDuty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:57 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I act similarly.
I've spent the past decade in multimedia marketing and have become VERY desensitized to pleas from strangers and the sway of the crowd.
itsrumsey ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 22:13:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well done, going out of your way to make sure no worthy cause gets support. Refusing to involve yourself with any petition is the functional equivalent of not ever voting. No one can make you do it, but you should relinquish your right to bitch and complain about anything as well.
babelincoln61 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:25:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WAT. Not wanting to be accosted by random people with clipboards on the street is not the same as not voting or doing research about candidates on your own.
itsrumsey ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 22:32:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Firstly, you don't "vote" for a petition on election day. By openly dismissing all petitions brought to your awareness without hearing so much as a word from them, you are abstaining from involvement in any change the petitions could have had the power to bring about.
Basically, you're the reason petitions don't work. But I bet this type of person has no problem bitching about how things should be different.
babelincoln61 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:58:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Okay, so two things. 1) You obviously know everything there is to know about a stranger on the internet from one comment.
2) Your reading comprehension is pretty low, isn't it?
Where did I say that you "vote" for a petition on election day? Spoiler alert: No where.
Lastly, I do read and sign petitions... Just not those thrown in my face on the street. Being interrupted on my walk home from work isn't a time where I can make an educated decision about if I should sign a petition. In fact, I don't sign petitions from strangers on the street because it could be for literally anything (check what OP posted for example). I'll listen to what the name of the petition is and look it up online later if it sounds like something worth looking into.
JimmyCrackCrack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:05:08 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This right here is the key issue with this form of advocacy, especially when they not only want signatures but money too.
If for example the petition being put to me were for banning dihydrogen monoxide and I had just enough time while standing there enroute to a destination, to hear as much about why we should do that as the classmates of the kid in the article did; then I might well think it should be banned were it not for it being a pretty well known joke. It's not a time and place where I can objectively evaluate the merits of the cause or where I have the resources to adequately research it. Even the cause can be okay while the group is disreputable, that's not going to be obvious if you aren't familiar with them. The reason I like to think that I mostly am not so easily mislead is that I don't make snap decisions about complex issues.
I understand the difficulty from the perspective of the people who do this, after all if they don't interrupt me on the way to work or some other inconvenient moment in the street, odds are I'm not going to go home and heavily research their issue (assuming I'm even aware of it), I'll probably make dinner and try to relax. But by the same token, the chances I'll align myself with their group and their cause on the basis of street petitioning are basically zero. Also, they have a spoiler effect on one another because so many groups do this, even in the same street and many of them aren't even advocating a cause they're just trying to get you to buy a product, by the time that's happened to you more than about 3 times in your life it's enough for you to instantly dismiss all other groups using such methods. I spent time working in London, there was a particular street that everyday involved running a gauntlet of multiple different religious groups, advertisers and political campaigners before you could get through l and they positioned multiple people at different intervals in case one of their associated missed you or you tried to navigate a path around them.
It just won't ever be an effective strategy so long as two things remain true:
MaxDG1013 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:48 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is such a thing as petitions that you can read and sign willingly and voluntarily, without having to be accosted.
Furthermore, the only time there's anything wrong with refusing to sign anything is when the person complains when nothing changes. And here you've outright stated "I bet this type of person has no problem bitching about how things should be different." Yeah, shut the fuck up, asshole. I can sign as few petitions as I want. You know why? Because I don't complain about anything I could have signed a petition to prevent. And fuck you for trying to assume everyone else whines like you do.
Azsendi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:17:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ayy lmao, this guy doesn't read.
itsrumsey ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 22:29:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's ironic, since you clearly failed to comprehend not one but two posts in a row.
But I imagine that's par for the course for anyone who starts out a post with "ayy lmao".
Azsendi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:44:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, my post was a clearly a shitpost because the guy clearly said that he that he participates by voting for what he thinks is a worthy cause. Oh well, end of story, I was shitposting and that's that. You're probably a troll, but I can't bother myself to check. Have fun and have a nice day.
babelincoln61 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:01:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Either troll or an idiot. dude also didn't read my comment and went on a tangent rant
Azsendi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:) that's why I shitposted on his post.
RDCAIA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:29 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, technically, I'm not going "out of my way". Pretty much the opposite.
You can keep signing your petitions and you can keep getting bitchy and complaint when the petition doesn't change anything. Unless you're in high school (if we get 2/3 of our student body to sign this petition, the principal will let us eat outside on Thursdays) or local parking regulations (if 75% of the residents on the street sign this petition, they'll put zoned permit parking signs up which will keep the nearby apartment complex from parking here), petitions are not the same as voting.
[deleted] ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 19:23:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Swibblestein ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 19:43:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tell people that I don't sign petitions the day I learn about an issue, and usually people take it pretty well - it's not rude to want to research an issue further before taking a stance.
k929 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:23:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
During finals week, this guy was going around trying to get a petition signed. His opening line was, "Hey have you gotten a chance to sign my petition yet?" I said, "No not yet, what are you petitioning for?"
Mother fucker just walked away to a girl the table over, asked her the same thing, and didn't respond to me. I like your line better since it doesn't imply that I'm not interested, just that I'm trying to understand it better.
But then again sometimes I think it's fair to tell people to fuck off.
Swibblestein ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:27:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes people are paid to try to get signatures for petitions, so he's probably just going for the shotgun approach (and it probably works reasonably well too).
I_Am_The_Onion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you go to a certain school in Washington? I experienced this during finals week as well.
k929 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Southern California. But I'm sure it's a common technique.
TheNotoriousLogank ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:55:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. I usually just ask if they willfully ignored the NO TRESSPASSING sign. Usually they fuck right off.
Swibblestein ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:59:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think you understand what trespassing is.
whelp_welp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What he really wants is a "no solicitors" sign.
disposable_pants ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:09:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even then, canvassing (providing information/asking for signatures) =/= soliciting (selling something).
whelp_welp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really, soliciting is asking for or trying to obtain somethingโin this case a signature.
disposable_pants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Generally soliciting statutes/laws require actually selling something; sometimes they require actually having a product on hand.
Hebetude ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:35:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did business to business sales for a very short period a while back.
We were taught to ignore no soliciting signs. "Oh no we're not soliciting, we were just taking care of some clients in the area and they recommended we come over and see how much money we could save you!"
One time the guy trying to train me and another new guy had us go into a big office building then rush into an elevator as the guard asked what we were doing there (no soliciting signs everywhere.)
"We have a meeting with a client" he said as he furiously pressed the 'Close Door' button.
Did not make it long in that place at all; never felt like more of a scumbag in my life.
gzilla57 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:04:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because you were being employed as a professional scumbag.
Hebetude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed.
Not sure it matched the exact legal definition of one (I doubt it did) but their whole business model was just a pyramid scheme.
100% commission based and all of it was just salesmen within the group opening new offices under whoever brought them in where every step up in the chain gets commissions from all those below them in the chain.
I was extremely mistaken in thinking I'd be able to make any sort of decent pay without being shady or scummy so I quit after a few weeks of making $0 other than selling some supplies to a family member who already used the supplier but had not yet been through the 'referral' process.
Overall a valuable experience though. I was extremely shy and it really forced me to overcome it to some extent even if I was never brazen enough to ignore the no soliciting signs whenever the trainer wasn't around.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:52:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I went to Paris on holiday a couple of years back, there were these 'nuns' asking for petition signatures, and after you signed they flipped the clipboard round and it said there was a mandatory donation with each signature.
xxmindtrickxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever tried not being a pussy and declining
TonyzTone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who is actively involved in gathering petitions to get political candidates onto the ballot, the answer is, "Yes."
kkfenix ยท 106 points ยท Posted at 18:34:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm: am 16 and would do exactly that.
8InchLongSchlong ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 19:06:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get off my lawn
TamponSmoothie ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:45:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or I'll turn on the Dihydrogen Monoxide sprinklers on you!
ImPostingOnReddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fix'd
Dodgson_here ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could you sign this petition first?
BangedYourMum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get out my wife
GeeJo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:11:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The odd thing is that I remember the petitions I refused to sign way more than the ones that I did, because of the vague feeling of guilt.
There was one passed around to free Ai Weiwei back when I was in University, for example, but since I didn't know the facts at the time I refused to sign - for all I knew the guy could have been a radical Uyghur terrorist or something.
So I suppose the fact that I ended up learning more about the issue means they ended up succeeding - more than if I'd just blithely put my name on the paper (resulting in nothing), at least.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still supports his final conclusion.
Joliet_Jake_Blues ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have clothes older than you.
kkfenix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dang, so do I :/
Edit: actually, it's one piece of clothing and it's almost as old as me.
the_black_panther_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:05:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's pretty much all we do. Like for student government we just hand around the sheets at lunch and they get signed
BrobearBerbil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:21:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We should also probably critique his sample size along with his survey methods, but since this reinforces a notion that everyone else but us is stupid about chemistry, we get really excited about it.
iloveapplejuice ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:32:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's 14. Most likely what happened was that he was fairly popular and was able to convince his classmates to do it. Word gets spread, "Hey vote for Nathan" and the hivemind does the rest for lulz.
tunersharkbitten ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those people vote now...
__zoveighkuX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:49:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"We're playing along with your silly petition, but you'll owe us big."
aGeordie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope.
Zooomz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:51:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean nope? You're video has the same conclusion at the end??
Aldo_The_Apache_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:06 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I don't think anyone actually cared. They just signed it because why not
notwearingpantsAMA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And you know see how congressmen vote on bills.
Batman53090 ยท 414 points ยท Posted at 18:14:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember we had a critical thinking writing prompt about this. A lot of people (myself included) in my class made the argument to ban it, and then my teacher went over the facts with us and broke down what "dihydrogen monoxide" was. I felt like such a dumbass.
bearssyy ยท 250 points ยท Posted at 20:27:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for being the one person on Reddit to admit that maybe you are not above the intelligence level of all of these "stupid" people.
jay791 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:37:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's wisdom, not intelligence. It all comes down to knowing that H2O is water, mono means one/single and di means two/double.
Screaming_Monkey ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:53:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's a combination of knowledge, intelligence, and wisdom. Knowledge means you know H2O is water. Intelligence means you can deduce that mono = one and di = two, and that "two-hydrogen one-oxide" = H2O = water. Wisdom means you don't take everything at face value.
jay791 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:20:00 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mistook knowledge & wisdom . Knowledge goes for h2o, mono and di. Intelligence goes for spotting the need to convert dihydrogen monoxide to a more friendly notation. Wisdom - as you said.
Screaming_Monkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:36 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think mono and di could be either knowledge or intelligence. I don't remember being specifically taught what those prefixes mean. I just kind of figured it out over time. But you're probably right that in most cases, they should go under knowledge.
sowlz_kun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:43 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The ability to relate is intelligent as it uses brain power. It is also the deep usage of knowledge.
Mono and di are considered term/naming hence it is considered knowledge, that bears on memory power.
Wisdom is almost like foresight, acting based on meaning or past experiences.
These are just what i understand so feel free to ask or correct me, or anything
sintaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:40 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from poor judgement.
AnAwesomeTiger ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:27:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ignorant people*
Not knowing something doesn't make you stupid. Willful ignorance is pretty stupid though.
worldsayshi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Word problems: I'm kind of having the impression that willful is at least partially included in the meaning of ignorant. Can you really be ignorant without being so willfully?
People always tend to see ignorant as something that you can be blamed for or something immoral. But how can you be blamed for something if you haven't willfully chosen it?
AnAwesomeTiger ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:18:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ignorant just means you don't know something. We are all ignorant on a variety of issues. And we are all ignorant on many things against our will (for lack of a better word). You can't really be blamed for being ignorant on a lot of things.
Willful ignorance is when you're aware of a topic and have an opinion on it but choose to ignore any research or facts that refute your point.
There's nothing wrong with being ignorant if you choose to educate yourself when the topic is brought to your attention. If you're refusing to educate yourself because you're too scared of being wrong then you have a problem.
ttderrer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:11:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see your point. I only use 'willful ignorance' when I explain simple things to certain people (business owners) and they just do not listen. They hear SOMETHING, but not what was actually said. Then they over-react and throw a temper-tantrum because they did not listen.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:23:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah you can be ignorant without being willful. But I see where you're coming from as the word has a pretty negative connotation.
Tibberly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:19 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For example, I have absolutely no idea how many grains of sand are in the shore of the nearest lake. I remain completely ignorant of that particular fact. But since A] the issue hasn't come up before B] I've never made any decisions based on the assumed number of grains of sand without bothering to check the actual number C] the actual number is probably not something I can learn given my current resources, I wouldn't say I'm willfully ignorant of that one fact.
(I am, however, willfully ignorant of whether or not anyone's already bothered to measure the number of grains of sand in that lake and then published that information where I can access it. I'm not even bothering to search for it. Frankly I just don't care. And yet, I'm making part of my earlier argument "oh the information probably isn't available to me haha" without bothering to check. Whoops!)
bearssyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:42 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Agreed. That's why I put stupid in quotations. People on this thread are acting like just because these people didn't know what dihydrogen monoxide is they are stupid.
AnAwesomeTiger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:39 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I must have glazed over that part, sorry :)
KillerPacifist1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:41 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. Nobody is stupid for wanting to ban dihydrogen monoxide. The people who want to ban it are just ignorant of technical chemical language. Ignorance =/= stupid. Everyone is ignorant about something.
[deleted] ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 19:37:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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MaxDG1013 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:33:36 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, not so much for "believing" someone without any independent critical thinking, because that suggests that they're lying about DHMO, when technically all their facts are true, and the person giving the facts, while they are making a case for DHMO to be banned, they're still not lying. I think it's more like "they are dumb for coming to a conclusion (the conclusion that it should be banned) based on insufficient information."
Okay, well, I guess you could mean "believe that they are serious when they say DHMO should be banned."
Hoboken_Snob ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:18 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're not really dumb at all. They signed some random petition that they knew had zero real world impact, after what was a pretty good argument against a presumed toxicant. Do you pay complete attention to detail in every class you've ever sat in?
_Harmonic_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:51:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The truth is that the name itself would be enough to make me not like it.
I know what carbon monoxide is, and dihydrogen just sounds so evil. Presented in a similar way to the way this student did, I would be inclined to vote to ban as well.
You and I are NOT dumbasses for simply being unaware what dihydrogen monoxide is any more than the students from the article are. We are human and were mislead.
So what do we learn from this?
Independent research is important before knee-jerk reactions.
IMCHAPIN ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 19:12:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We had a class discussion on wether or not it should be banned. This one guy was so adamant on banning it, he yelling in how dangerous it was and how we are all addicted to a horrible chemical. I knew right away when I read "dihydrogen monoxide" (the majority of the arrival just said DHMO, socit could have been anything) I raised my hand and askedb"wait... Isn't that just-" and the teacher cut me off before and told me not to mention it. This was legit one of the most heated debates because it seemed like a very dangerous chemical and I was just there laughing at these guys. Especially because the end of the article literally said "DHMO is water," yet these people were arguing without reading the entire article, which tbh I didn't finish it because I knew what it was before I finished it.
aGeordie ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 19:31:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those other dummies fell for it but not this guy, he was in on it all along and laughed so hard. He tends to just "get" things like that though.
void_ ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:47:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This comment is this entire thread.
acloudbuster ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:44:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Beetin ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:26:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah man. He didn't even need to finish the article.
t3hlazy1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The end of the article said "DHMO is water", or so I was told since I didn't even need to finish it.
IMCHAPIN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I only realized this one someone mentioned it. It wasn't hard to know this considering I was taking a chemistry class at the time lol
veggiter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:31:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very Streetlamp Le Moose.
OhSoSavvy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:50:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing he doesn't "get" is party invitations
ComradeAri ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:01:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't see it as all that unlikely. The part about the teacher cutting him off actually happened to me once or twice.
Our Algebra teacher was starting the unit on factorials, but not coming right out and saying "we're going to learn about factorials." Instead, he gave us a probability question and asked the class to come up with an answer. While everyone else was making guesses like 24, 48, 64, 100 (et cetera) I gave the answer 40,320.
(All I had to do was type 8! in my calculator.)
As the teacher walks the class through the problem and asks everyone to start eliminating answers that seem the most unlikely, the class gets mad at me for acting like a clown and vetoing my answer of 40,320 from being eliminated.
I'm starting to open my mouth to explain my answer and my teacher cuts me off and gets back to teaching. But before turning back to his smartboard he gives me one of those looks of approval.
It was pretty cool to be the center of attention for the day after the teacher walked the class through to the correct answer, but it's not like I'm actually smart. I left that class with a D.
It just happened that I watch a lot of Numberphile videos.
A similar incident happened earlier/later (I can't remember) with me solving the Monty Hall problem before anyone else.
My point being... It's not unusual to have at least one or two people who happened to stumble across the correct answer on their own before its brought up to a group of people...
Not claiming to be Albert Einstein, just happened to know the answer already.
Atario ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always remember to shame people for using their brains
aGeordie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:22:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You other dummies upvoted me but not this guy, he see's what I'm doing. He's not afraid to appear sanctimonious, even if he's missed the point entirely. He sure took me down a peg or two!
Atario ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Irony
goldandguns ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:29:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when they did this in high school chem, one of my first days at a new school.
I saw on the sheet that it was a fire retardant, and for some reason I thought it was the stuff they put in fire extinguishers on boats that I had just seen on my dad's boat. I read the tag like two weeks prior, it was a warning card on the hydrant that said it was hazardous, etc.
I explained I think I knew what this stuff is, it's super bad for you.
Sank down in my chair a bit after the big reveal.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:35:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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IMCHAPIN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:36:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They felt dumb, he started blaming the article for being misleading and calling the writer dumb for not saying it was water, which someone pointed out it said it was water at the end of the article (which is how I knew it said it)
ClassicRobert ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a class discussion about this as well, and the teacher couldn't cut me off before I realized what DHMO was and ended the debate. She looked frustrated and said, "well, the point of the discussion was that it is easy to be misinformed about science." In hindsight I think that while that's an important lesson, maybe a more important one is that when you don't know what you're talking about, there are probably a few people who do and you should try to find them and get their thoughts rather than follow the clueless masses.
Tohserus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:25:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah my teacher did similar, we were all going over it individually before the group discussion and I called the teacher over and asked if it wasn't just water, he just did a "shh" gesture with his finger and walked away. So funny.
Batman53090 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The article we had didn't state that it was water. That wasn't until we discussed it as a class and my teacher wrote out the chemical formula.
veggiter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:28:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I independently realized that water could be described as such (or similarly) when I as in 9th grade, so I was prepared when my snarky English teacher pulled that on the class in 10th. As you might imagine, my paper was very self-congratulatory.
MumrikDK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least you realized that instead of just rolling in irrational anger and outrage.
jgoldberg49 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In a way, the experiment is still going on. Most of what you believe doesn't come from you or any research you did. Someone else told you what to believe and you believed it. If you were born somewhere else in a differenet environment, you would be a very different person with very different ideas.
TUSF ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:24:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah. The alternative is spending my entire life verifying the science of the last 2000 years. It's not feasible for everyone to spend their lives verifying the claims of the people before us. I simply choose to accept the explanation given by recognized experts (who themselves accept claims given by experts before them), and if it turns out something they said was wrong, then I guess I'll move on to believing the next best explanation.
I'll do my research on what I can, but even then, I'm assuming the math these people do checks out, and that the theories their science is based off of is accurate. If I choose to trust no one at face-value, I'll be here researching for my entire life.
xosierraxo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:46 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i had a similar thing in seventh grade. a classmate and i started giving each other looks then went to the teacher together and said "is this water?" and he gave us this evil smile then said we still had to write the paper.
_Dihydrogen_Monoxide ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 19:03:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't ban me bro.
Galbalin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:29:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"redditor for 1 month" eh I'll allow it
friedgold1 ยท 724 points ยท Posted at 17:36:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost as bad as hydrogen hydroxide. Truly dangerous stuff.
pocketry ยท 132 points ยท Posted at 18:15:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hydroxic acid is the worst though. That stuff can destroy mountains.
toeofcamell ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 18:26:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not going to lie I would try to get this banned if I didn't know how to google information. Anything with "acid" in the name automatically sounds deadly
loljetfuel ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 18:30:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just wait until you realize all the medications that have hydrochloric acid (HCl) in them..
The0isaZero ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 18:38:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just don't tell him about the bag of it he's carrying round inside him.
loljetfuel ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:42:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shh, you'll upset my bacterial colonies; they might notice all the lead, chromium, and cobalt in my system!
clgfangoneawry2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:20 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do I have a feeling, you all just googled it once.
PolloPicante ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...Or that there is Cyanide (CN) in Apple Seeds and Cherry Pits
The_DerpMeister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AND YOUR STOMACH
ihatehappyendings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How much food have acetic acid in them...
Top-Cheese ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 18:39:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deoxyribonucleic acid is bad m'kay.
toeofcamell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:41:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how do I avoided it?????????
GlyphGryph ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:00:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's probably inside your body right now. Try one of those purge diets. You might have to go pretty hardcore before the deoxyribonucleic acid starts to break down, though.
toeofcamell ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:03:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do a coffee enema and I drink coffee at the same time. I don't know what to call this diet/cleanse though...can you help me name it?
I was thinking a DP Brown Out
BerryPi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a psychic type Pokรฉmon, so having a dark type will make you immune.
PatrickBaitman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:24:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
80% of Americans support mandatory labeling for food that contains deoxyribonucleic acid.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/05/27/new-study-confirms-that-80-percent-of-americans-support-mandatory-labeling-of-foods-containing-dna/
HenryRasia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:49:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just a painless exposure to xrays is sure to destroy this chemical!
JasonDJ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:41:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're telling me. I've got friends who try to cook with acetic acid. I've even seen them put it on salads with concentrated plant lipids, or on French fries with sodium chloride!
toeofcamell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:43:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you're asking for it man!! all those things sound super deadly
0342narmak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:34 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the sodium chloride is probably iodized, too!
zealoSC ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:16:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deoxyribonucleic acid has been known to cause many genetic abnormalities including cancer!
toeofcamell ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:21:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I don't want to stop eating ribs, ribs are delicious
MajorPrune ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And Oxy feels great! That stuff can't be that bad.
rednax1206 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But it DE-oxy's you!
Zarokima ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:33:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We should ban hydrochloric acid. That one is really common in populated areas.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:29:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd think and be like "well i drink alcohol and that's pretty fuckin deadly. How often do i come around this acid?" Then they say something like "every day" and i say "oh well i havent died yet so im probably okay".
Terminus14 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:29:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Citric acid sounds deadly? I think most people know what citrus is and would relate the two.
toeofcamell ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:32:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ok, not every name
nickpeq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Acetic acid?
toeofcamell ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:51:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
it should be outlawed. I absolutely hate Vinegar
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget the Hydrox cookies
Jacksane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Based on personal experience, you overestimate people. There are people who don't understand the pH scale at all.
flee_market ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's deadly to insects... sprinkle that shit everywhere yo.
Terminus14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it? We're having a bad ant and fly problem this year. Been putting down boric acid occasionally. Think citric might be a better option?
flee_market ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Er whoops I'm retarded, I was thinking of boric acid. Great for crawlers but fliers seem to be unaffected by it.
Potatopotatopotao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard they put acid in tomato sauce in the US.
koshgeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about carbonic acid or acetic acid? The latter is actually dangerous in high concentrations, but some people like putting it on their french fries in low concentrations.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Acetic acid sounds pretty deadly to the layman, citric less so. Now ascorbic acid is what you really want to watch out for.
kickingpplisfun ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:47:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course, you may be drinking carbonic(soda water) and phosphoric acid on a daily basis.
toeofcamell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope I don't die in 50-60 years from this stuff
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:47:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you don't ban amino acids...
toeofcamell ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:55:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
amino sounds pretty close to ammunition so I think this should definitely be banned. In fact I'm so anti-gun I'm going to start an online petition to ban amino acids!
Top-Cheese ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Assault Acids must be banned.
jfb1337 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, Dihydrogen Monoxide is the main component of Acid rain
toeofcamell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
EXACTLY, see all acids can kill you eventually
Emerald_Flame ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:49:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have really bad news for you about batteries...
toeofcamell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
don't keep me guessing, what is the news??
Emerald_Flame ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, a lot of them have acid in them. Your car has a big box of lead and sulfuric acid sloshing around under the hood.
toeofcamell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so you're saying I should drink that stuff?
Emerald_Flame ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:02:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Personally, I'd recommend against it. But hey, I'm no doctor.
toeofcamell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is the internet, just say "as a Doctor..." then I'm obligated to believe you
Likes_Shiny_Things ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:37:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta ban that Citric Acid
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Citric acid in your oranges.
Hydrochloric acid in your stomach. Fun fact, the hydrochloric acid in your stomach is 100x stronger than vinegar.
Another fun fact, according to the Bronsted-Lowry theory of acids and bases, which defines acids as being proton donors and bases being proton recipients, water (H2O) can at times be an acid or a base. The same thing with NH4+.
So it wouldn't be so wrong to say that water at certain times acts as an acid.
toeofcamell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I totally understood some of those words
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't expect you to :)
Some people reading will have taken some form of senior chemistry and understand that.
Dexaan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I drank some acetic acid earlier.
toeofcamell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Surfdudeboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
My dad got worked up about a radio show that claimed that most medications are artificially increasing you salt intake... Which is technically true because they often have hydrochloride salt (HCL).
edit: Apparently sodium salt is the next most common salt after hydrochloride in medication.
clgfangoneawry2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:45 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvlllG1FwjI
MerryGoWrong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your body is full of dioxyribonucleic acid! ACID I TELL YOU!!
toeofcamell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but I fucking love ribs!
Joliet_Jake_Blues ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When this went around my high school (96ish) it was Hydroxic acid, not dihydrogen oxide.
It's more scary when it is an acid.
(The Juniors spread a rumor that a certain water fountain was dispensing Hydroxic acid. None of the freshmen or sophomores would drink from it.)
W1llF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not an acid, water is neutral at RTP, so it doesn't protonate or deprotonate anything. Hence making it not an acid or a base.
listerinebreath ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:58:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on who's definition of acid you use.
W1llF ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:00:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, it won't donate any electrons either, or accept any. So it doesn't with either Lewis' or Bronsted's definitions of acids/bases.
listerinebreath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Technically water can be both an acid and a base by either model. Common examples below.
HF- + H20 -> F- + H3O+ (Water as a base)
NH3 + H20 -> NH4+ + OH- (Water as an acid.)
caseycoold ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know what believe any more.
LexPatriae ยท 315 points ยท Posted at 18:00:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chemistry profs will tell you that hydrogen hydroxide > dihydrogen monoxide as far as names go.
brainchasm ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 18:15:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oxidane
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 18:20:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That stuff is deadly. We should ban it.
LiberalAuthoritarian ยท 268 points ยท Posted at 18:24:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All I see is booty
offthebeatmeoff ยท 111 points ยท Posted at 18:27:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That stuff is also deadly
3pointIlluminati ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 18:38:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And it may attak at any time!
iwantogofishing ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:19:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ve must dil wiv it
jlmbsoq ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:44:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A Mรธรธse once bit my sister...
james_the_lass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lit mi fit fir yi klisi
WaitWhatting ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:10:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ve mast deel vit it...
[ass explodes]
Vat de phuc!!
offthebeatmeoff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:06:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat it before it eats you.
onmytip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We mus deel wit it !
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We should ban(g) it.
Aelo-Z ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
.6% of those exposed to gluteus maximus have contracted the HIV virus
AtrusHomeboy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
GUTSMAN'S ASS
whats_a_diarama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:23 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Came here for this. Thank you.
bigoted_bill ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 18:26:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dat ass tho
deanwashere ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:47:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The ass was fat
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:27:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to be confused with "The Stuff".
LostTheMagic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:04:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a fantastic awful movie.
Droggelbecher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I expected a link to Michael Jordans secret stuff.
PaperScale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vee must deel with it.
DigNitty ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:28:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BILLY MAYS HERE!
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:30:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFmM5CWnmtE
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:55:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:36:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh god cannot unhear
Captain_Wompus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:54:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit.
Dodgson_here ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason the slider one comes through the loudest/clearest for most of the video.
CMDR_Elek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like BIG TITTY SLOT MACHINE
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best theme park ride ever
CMDR_Elek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BILLY MAYS HERE WITH THE BIG TITTY SLOT MACHINE
Rodents210 ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 18:22:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Especially when performing this trick, because to people who don't know chemistry well, and are just thinking about the words, "dihydrogen monoxide" is is more immediately obvious to be 2 Hydrogen, 1 Oxygen than "hydrogen hydroxide" since the numbers aren't in the name and you have to break down "hydroxide" into parts to know what it means.
nmotsch789 ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 18:31:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But if it's easier to figure out, it makes it funnier when people fall for it.
TheYadda ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 18:32:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also monoxide makes one think of carbon monoxide.
toadofsteel ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 19:39:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's really what made it stick to the public's mind. You hear terms like "carbon" and "hydrogen" used in fairly innocuous terms all the time, but the "monoxide" label outside of the chemistry field almost always refers to carbon monoxide, which is a very dangerous substance.
geniice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even in the chemistry field that's about the only thing its used for. Yes there is silicone monoxide and chlorine monoxide (dangerious) but they are less commonly used terms.
toadofsteel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is Carbon Monoxide the only substance that has any sense of stability with a single Oxygen atom? Even in "elemental" form, oxygen binds into O2 (how do I shot subscript on reddit?) molecules.
geniice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. You've got all the ionic stuff (Magnesium oxide and the rest of the group two elements for example). All the organic stuff (ethanol contains one oxygen atom as does acetone). Sulfur monoxide isn't easy to make but it can be done. Nitrogen oxygen chemistry is complicated but straight .NO does exist. There is some flourine chemistry which like a lot of flourine chemistry rather a toxic and best avoided but oxygen difluoride and HFO (Hypofluorous acid) exist.
TheGuyWhoLikesPizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:30 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But you call it magnesium oxide. Not magnesium monoxide right?
geniice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:06 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup.
emezachariah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. Oxygen can bind with anything as long as it's two unpaired valence become paired. And, water is very stable and only has one oxygen. The periodic table is a good source for figuring out what will bind to what, if you don't want to trust random internet strangers
toadofsteel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But that involves work.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:46 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well I just read about this one substance called hydrogen monoxide...
RDCAIA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what bothers me about DHMO. In carbon monoxide, it's just CO in chemistry and in public use as in CO detectors, etc. Not CMO.
willdeb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why dihydrogen monoxide caught on, you don't say monocarbon dioxide
Tronold_Dump ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 18:35:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mono only goes as a prefix if it's the second word.
NATIK001 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:37:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It follows the same framework as carbon monoxide. Monoxide is used when you want to emphasize that there is only one oxygen atom.
JustAnMD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:42:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As others mentioned below, there is a system of rules. Here is a short YouTube video on the subject.
pongobuff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You only drop the prefix if it would be mono
Spenttoolongatthis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're missing a hydrogen atom.
BEEF_WIENERS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't say monocarbon dioxide, but you could. It's not wrong, it's just not the simplest way to say carbon dioxide. In chemistry there's multiple names for every molecular structure, multiple naming conventions exist and are used in different situations for different reasons. For example, I could cal H2O "Hydroxide Acid" and I wouldn't be wrong. It's a hydroxide ion (HO- ) with an H+ slapped on the side - slapping an H+ on the side of things makes them an acid (this is the Chem 101 explanation, and as I was told in Chem 101 - every other chem course is spent learning exceptions to the rules you learned in Chem 101, so this is by far an oversimplification, and to the post-doc chemistry researcher out there who's about to tear me a new one and push the character limit with a paper on acids, I beg of you please don't).
Dihydrogen Monoxide caught on because of stuff like this kid's science fair, and then other very similar uses of the phrase. And it's starting to wear out, people hear "Dihydrogen Monoxide" and they start figuring out that it's water. Start doing the same thing with "Hydroxide Acid" and the cycle will start over again. Also, bonus: there's ACID IN YOUR TAP WATER! OH NO! You can get all new levels of horror in people. Their kids are eating acid with almost every meal. It's in their juicebox! It's in your swimming pool! It's filling up our oceans! It's in the fucking groundwater!
geniice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because "monoxide" is associated with carbon monoxide which is best avoided.
UNiFiED_ChAoS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
face palm
half3clipse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THere's no single correct name for every compound, rather IUPAC requires each name unambiguously refer to a single compound. dihydrogen monoxide is appropriate for naming a molecular compound; hydrogen hydroxide is the systemic name as an alkali; hydroxic acid, hydric acid, and etc are systemic names as an acid and hydron hydroxide is the polarized form.
Course if you really want, oxidane is probably the best name,or at the very least that's the IUPAC recommendation.
zealoSC ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:14:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's what water is is called if you follow the standard naming conventions for compounds...
geniice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The standard naming convention would give you "water". Otherwise Hydrogen oxide. Compare Hydrogen sulfide.
zealoSC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You never took a chemistry class, did you?
Compare, carbon monoxide
geniice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Carbon is group 4 oxygen is group 6 (or 14 and 16 for those that prefer the modern system). For looking at naming conventions its generaly best to look within the same group. So Hydrogen sulfide, Hydrogen selenide and Hydrogen telluride. See the patturn?
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing it's the way people (especially resistors) make themselves feel smart and pompous with only entry level chemistry knowledge...
Page_Won ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about "hydric acid"? Sounds deadly.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's also kinda the point. You make it as apparent as possible without using the most common term. That gives the people you are talking to every opportunity to identify the substance you are describing. By doing this, you highlight just how easy it is to fool someone by using factually correct statements in a misleading manner. When people start hearing all the horrible things the substance can do, they no longer pay attention to what it is, just how much it "needs" to be regulated.
thehomiemoth ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:55:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which chemistry professors? Hydrogen hydroxide would be the name for an ionic compound, water is covalently bound
toadofsteel ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:45:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's both. Theres an H+ ion and an OH- ion, the latter is covalently bound.
This is also why acid + base -> water + a salt. All ionic compounds are one of those 4 things. Salt contains neither H+ or OH- , acid contains H+ , base contains OH- , and water is literally the combination of those two ions. When you combine an acid and a base, those H+ and OH- ions separate from their acid and base compounds and bind to each other to form water. The ions they were once bound to bind together to form a salt... not necessarily NaCl, though that is what you get when combining hydrochloric acid (HCl) and Sodium Hydroxide (NaOH).
Source: high school chemistry 15-ish years ago.
thehomiemoth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:57:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True and at a certain point it becomes an arbitrary distinction, but the concentration of ionized water is 1E-14 M which is functionally negligible, I think it's still more accurate to name it as a covalent compound
dank_imagemacro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:35:09 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But many of its most important properties, the ones that allow it to be the base of life are due to those ionic properties.
That_secret_chord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having just last week written chemistry, and failing to get it out of my mind, you are 100% correct. Better explained than my teacher as well.
abaddamn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:50 on June 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but Hydrogen is in the same chart as Sodium hence the hydroxide like Sodium Hydroxide. Perfect fit :D
Buuuut unlike the other hydroxides it doesn't have a PH value / its value is a perfect 5/7.
Teknoman117 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:30:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I would've thought that because water has covalent bonds it would be dihydrogen monoxide. it's been awhile since AP Chem...
discipula_vitae ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:05:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but there is a group that will say that the way that water readily dissociates that proton to form OH- and H+, makes it similar to an ionic situation.
So that makes hydrogen hydroxide better. Of course, it really is debatable. Most chemist prefer the name water to any other name, obviously.
Teknoman117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:58 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a good point, I was thinking about that as well. Technically covalent when water, but it's not particularly strongly bonded when it comes down to it...
JeIIyDM ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:40:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
That is technically correct, but I assume there are more correct names for some compounds.
Droggelbecher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Organic Chemistry says hi!
colorvarian ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:55:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This implies it is more of an ionic bond between a proton cation and hydroxide anion, which in a normal pH 7 solution isn't the dominant covalent dihydrogen monoxide. That said, the whole ionic covalent thing is a complete gray scale we've made up to simplify our own understanding of chemical electron sharing, aka bonding.
Bekabam ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:29:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I was taught to use the dihydrogen nomenclature.
Or maybe this is some joke I missed..
iMpThorondor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:34:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah they're moving towards removing the mono/di/tri nomenclature from everything. Right now I think its still common to use it for covalently bonded molecules
iwillneverpresident ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:55:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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iMpThorondor ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:26:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The chemistry community I guess? Not sure if there is like a ruling body or not. But what kind of compound are you talking about? Like OH? Cause that's hydroxide.
iwillneverpresident ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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iMpThorondor ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:38:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Phosphorous Chloride or Phosphorous (III) Chloride
Although I'm not actually sure how correct I am about the naming moving away from mono/di/tri because its still included as official IUPAC naming
iwillneverpresident ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:45:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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iMpThorondor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah phosphorous chloride is ambiguous. I'm not entirely sure why they want to change the naming but I think it may be because it is easier to write in a document "Phosphorous Chloride" and its easier understood within context. If you were actually talking about chemical reactions you would be showing actual chemistry notation such as "PCl3" rather than writing out the reaction in words. So I guess its more of a language thing
iMpThorondor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait why wouldn't Phosphorous (III) Chloride work? I mean, thats actually the name of the compound I didn't just make it up. PCl5 would be Phosphorous (V) Chloride
iwillneverpresident ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:17 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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iMpThorondor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:18 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it? I didn't realize
solidspacedragon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That seems wrong to me.
How will you identify the difference between compounds with varying amounts of an element?
FartOnAStick ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:13:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or hydro hydroxic acid
Zhoom45 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:17:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
As a
diatomicacid with only hydrogen and a single electronegative atom, it would be called hydroxic acid, like hydrochloric or hydrosulfic. The first hydro is redundant.youtocin ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
H2O is not diatomic, I count 3 atoms :)
Trehnt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bussin out da bando
Zhoom45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are correct, diatomic was not the right word. I meant that it's only hydrogen and an electron-withdrawing atom. Hydrosulfic acid would be a much better comparison, being another chalcogen.
KyleIAm132 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He meant diprotic, it would dissociate two hydrogens separately.
youtocin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:48:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still not true, water does not dissociate into two hydronium ions in water.
Utaneus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is not diprotic, it will only contribute one H+.
catOS57 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:43:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm no optologist, but I think the diatomic refers to the 2 hydrogen atoms, not the whole molecule.
In both definitions of an acid, it involves the production of hydronium ions.
youtocin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're thinking diprotic. Diatomic literally means 2 atoms. This applies to things like HCl, HF, H2, N2, etc.
catOS57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yes
discipula_vitae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am I missing a joke, or what does this mean?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hydroxic acid
LewsTherinTelamon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always preferred hydroxic acid myself. It's hard to consider water as an acid, but it's even harder to consider water a salt, as the hydrogen hydroxide name suggests.
source: chemist
zodar ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 18:17:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, they will tell you it's called "water."
[deleted] ยท 204 points ยท Posted at 18:33:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
"It's almost as bad as hydrogen hydroxide. Truly dangerous stuff."
Donny rolled his eyes. "Lisa, you are such an idiot! Do you even know what you're talking about?"
"Of course I do. I graduated college!"
"It was Trump University, and you got scammed."
"Whatever." Lisa sneered at her boyfriend and waved her hand as if shooing him away. "Did you know that you swallow twelve spiders a year while you sleep."
"That isn't true, either. My God, woman, do you actually know anything?"
"Don't talk to me like I'm stupid!"
"If you don't want me to think you're stupid, then you should stop saying stupid things."
"I'm not stupid and I'll prove it to you! Did you know that we only use 10% of our brains?"
"Oh my God," Donny muttered under his breath. "This is the worst first date ever."
Edit: pronoun mistyped
eabradley1108 ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 18:57:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She considers Donny her boyfriend on the first date? Red flags everywhere
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:56:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I checked this guy's comment history and it seems that he goes around commenting vaguely coherent passages that consist of stilted dialogue offset with unimaginative description.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:16:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:21:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That got gold?
Daemon_Targaryen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it's a 50 first dates scenario
Emerald_Flame ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:52:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/SCzXZfNIu3A?t=3m24s
I like CGP Grey's take on the spider thing.
That_secret_chord ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:55:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I shitted myself for a moment when I saw that the first time
lawngnomeprince ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh fuck, I was not expecting that.
lagerlover ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:45:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is Donny a her or a he? You switched up and I need to know. For science.
zak13362 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Donny is a he. I don't see any ambiguity with the pronouns here.
lagerlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
UnwiseSudai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Por que no los dos?
Critically_Pingas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Donny is a guy.
IdTugYourBoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OP left out where they're at for the date. The promenade? The fair? TGI Fridays? We need to know.
elliereah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not both?
BangedYourMum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
gender fluid
argon_infiltrator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:05:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Danny is the player though. First date already and she considers him his boyfriend.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was pretty much me after I realized the girl I've been seeing is a 9/11 truther and an anti vaxxer
petrovich16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone read MSN this week
Poops_McYolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at this guy with his fancy book learnin.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That girl is all kinds of crazy. First date and already considers Donny her boyfriend. Stage 5.
Egosim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think Donny should break up.
cocainesprinkles ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll admit I laughed, but c'mon now though... why do women always have to be the ignorant/stupid ones in jokes like these? Nobody tells jokes about dumb blonde men either. We actually aren't all idiots. Plenty of us can even science!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:04:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interestingly, my next story/comment will be about a dumb man. (It may be autobiographical.) Stay tuned.
llcooljessie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:32:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DHMO is a major component of acid rain!
Page_Won ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY: Hydric acid is a major component of acid rain!
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:29:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those 7 classmates that didn't sign just had zero fucks to give.
geekygeekz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:35:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard hydric acid is even worse.
DRGaming ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What substance is that?
abc123shutthefuckup ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:37 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also water
LordOrgasm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:21:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, I worked with that shit in organic chemistry. It was an absurdly effective solvent.
TheCarpetPissers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had to Google it.
the_black_panther_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That took me a second, nice
ironmanmk42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HOH HOH HOH...
Wargazm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I don't think I'm a full-blown idiot. But I would not have known any of those were water. Being able to deconstruct those names takes some pretty specific knowledge of chemistry.
lordeddardstark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:22 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oreos is the knock off but it's safer
[deleted] ยท 1960 points ยท Posted at 17:05:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That looks like an ass.
Doomed_Predator ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 18:29:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and we definitely won't be working with it again
LTChaosLT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:19:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/dota2 leaking again.
karspearhollow ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:51:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/XS5LK.gif
Amablue ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:42:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This thumbnail is a butt.
ennyLffeJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like Christian Bale in that one movie.
DrDew00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Batman?
ennyLffeJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...No.
DrDew00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Prestige!
ennyLffeJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now you're just screwing with me.
afreeman21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Post it to /r/misleadingthumbnails
spideyjiri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:19 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That...
That recent Collegehumor video wasn't complete garbage!!
I'm shocked, I'm genuinely shocked!
Vote_Subatai ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 17:58:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's an ass molecule.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:30:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Arsenic-Sulfur?
Emprist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:39:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
mrthescientist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. That's AsS.
friedgold1 ยท 562 points ยท Posted at 17:43:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water you trying to say
_Fudge_Judgement_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hydrate that pun 8/10.
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 18:05:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
H2Ow about you make like oil and not mix your puns in with us water types.
CorrugatedClitoris ยท 103 points ยท Posted at 18:20:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
H2Owned
poopellar ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:44:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water ain't gonna help that burn.
TheOlRedditWhileIPoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:16:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That comment was way too H2OP, please nerf.
nullasubstantia ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:51:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh you did not flow there!
yimmmmmy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That depends where you draw the alkaline
Beejsterb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States
RoboticChicken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's ice-cold.
ConfidentBoner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This needs more upvotes
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't liquit your day job
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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BassAddictJ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:42:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
H2OhSnap
BDMayhem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The surface tension in here is palpable.
shahooster ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:30:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Suddenly a polar chill ITT
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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hydraloo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:19:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He rekt-em indeed
xland44 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get that you were trying to pun, butt you were supposed to spell it like this:
hydraloo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the analysis
xland44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if analysis was intended or not. But damn, it seems that nobody appreciated my hidden butt pun
hydraloo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I assumed it was obvious, but yeah. I'm new to this
esr360 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:16:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about you make like oil and get outta here!
BabiesOnQuack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, no need to make this aquard.
chotu_ustaad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn that's a good one. I wish I could come up with such puns.
jazznwhiskey ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:24:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alright Yoda
Chebinger ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:29:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's Gutsman!
Ennbeard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:48:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DUH NUUUUUH
daguil68367 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/q_IaF962b5c?t=15s
PanderMG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(du duuuuu)
esr360 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:15:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know, I just assumed it was an ass and didn't question that it was an odd choice of image to use even after reading the title until I came to the comments.
rmxz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One more reason Schools would ban that substance.
It's pornographic.
He's lucky he didn't get suspended for violating their zero-tolerance-for-porn policies.
riograndekingtrude ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 17:07:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deformed poke-ball IMHO
petrichorE6 ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 17:35:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*IMH2O. It's very dangerous stuff.
CVBrownie ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:38:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I vote to ban it
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:39:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Let's do it.
All who agree yay or those who disagree say ney.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:56:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OK.
unzips
Destro_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:15:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's some pretty low standards there, buddy.
CheezyOnion ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:13:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Veee muhst deeel wit it
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:15:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Et iz vehry dangerez
A_Decoy86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Low effort
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:39:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a voltorb with cancer.
TakenakaHanbei ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A Jigglypuff seen from above!
oofta31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I thought as well.
wardrich ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:43:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
H2Oooooooooh baby
Superman_v2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oooooooh baby a triple
wardrich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
H2O3?
ecnad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
butts
theongreysorrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More specifically, an ass with implants.
MemeTaco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like a baywatch ass
WaitWhatting ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dat dyhidrogen monoxide
kaffenico ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much the reason I came into the comments, to make sure I wasn't the only one who thought it looked like a bodacious ass in a thong.
frame_of_mind ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, with two amputated legs.
Nelmsdog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ass ass ass ass ass
widermind ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:18:26 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah dude. white ass in red underwear
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:42:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
r/misleadingthumbnails
Neopatrimonialism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DUN DUN
kwiqsilvr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's GUTSMAN!
Observante ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ban that shit.
WhammyKablammy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kirby's ass..
EnderBoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that's a true fact.
scotscott ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"those are balls" -Barry Zuckercorn
Kangar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A water bubble butt.
_NotThatGuyYouKnow_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The ass was fat
Kuritos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But you should see it preform on di pole
DarkZyth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If she a water molecule I'm a water molecule.
I_Xertz_Tittynopes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it is a component of feces.
justguessmyusername ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:10 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the same thing! I actually masturbated and came to it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:55:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LOL out of all of these comments, this one made me laugh.
onefreehour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
username checks out?
Honeybunbee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She got that molecular booty
chickchick87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
came here to say this.
Th3Arbiter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:57:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
deleted What is this?
BabiesOnQuack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Expected a serious discussion as the top comment, got this. Never change, Reddit.
challenge4 ยท 234 points ยท Posted at 17:55:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It would have been 50 out of 50 but 7 people apparently love water.
Ganglebot ยท 246 points ยท Posted at 18:24:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Big-Water Shills, no doubt
[deleted] ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 18:45:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Ackwardness ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 19:14:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hail Hydro!
halite001 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:36:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you know that hail can contain up to 100% DHMO?
Cecil_FF4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have but one upvote to give. Curse Reddit for this restriction!
Minty_Core ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hail Hydra! ...wait....oh
2hoodrich4me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heil hitler!?
crashdown314 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your new masters
DenverDudeXLI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was so mad when I saw Captain America say that.
rcfox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Canada, (or maybe just Ontario?) Big Hydro produces electricity.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:45:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hail Hydro
MenstruatingMuffin ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 19:31:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HAIL HYDRATE
sorenant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Avoid headaches, nausea.
PVgummiand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:25 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Moisturize me!
RosenSama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
7 responses of "Now that's what I call high quality H2O!"
juviegar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
6 were undecided and only 1 acknowledged that it is water. 49 out of 50 isn't a good number.
kirmaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:13 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the coverup was very effective. Watergate was a media success!
Devilheart ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:28:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The seven weren't very pleased to see their mass murder attempt fail.
RoboticChicken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From /u/On_A_Side_Note_Guy's comment above:
iyaerP ยท 141 points ยท Posted at 19:29:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These things always pissed me off. In my sophmore chemistry class, my partner and I did a MASSIVE electroplating project. Hundreds of electroplatings, measuring of different chemicals, we accidentally discovered several chemical reactions that we hadn't known about when trying differnet chemicals, and even one that caused rapid disintigration of all metals in the plating container as soon as electricity was applied. To all of that, we measured, calculated transfered molar mass, did all sorts of chemical analysis and science. We got second place. First place went to the idiots with the "dihydrogen monoxide is dangerous" bullshit.
junkpile1 ยท 148 points ยท Posted at 19:52:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You learned an important lesson. Rigorous scientific experimentation loses to rigorous public appeal.
suoarski ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:41:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately this is a real problem in science that happens too often outside of class.
junkpile1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:58:43 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a story literally as old as language.
GiveMeNotTheBoots ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:46:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See: most countries' nuclear energy policy.
junkpile1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:26:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
838h920 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 20:22:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it a chemistry project?
If yes, you could've just complained. What he did was not chemistry, it was social science.
iyaerP ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:44:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same chemistry class even.
Y0tsuya ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 19:49:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He won first place because his results hit the judges harder than yours. Meaning despite the best efforts of educators, scientific ignorance is still a huge problem among us.
Cornslammer ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:47:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always agreed that these people are just being smartasses. Good on ya for doing the good work!
Hatbeemo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:34:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chemical analysis? Rapid disintegration? Several new chemical reactions? I want to see that!
iyaerP ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:41:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They weren't newly discovered reactions, but they certainly weren't ones that we (students) knew about going in. The disintigration one was scary, we were using I want to say copper as our plating metal and lead as the target, and H2SO4 as our acid, but it was over a decade ago, and I don't remember all the details. We used acids for most of our plating, so that wasn't unusual but for this particular setup, as soon as we activated the electricity on our plating machine, the whole mixture started bubbling and frothing like some kind of witch's cauldron from a cartoon. EVERYTHING melted. The plating material, the target material, the alligator clips holding our two metals, and the plastic that surrounded them, it all dissolved in under a minute. It was crazy freaky and awesome, we never saw the likes of it again, nor did we see similar reactions from any other plating attempts. Like for all the other plating, we'd get a few micrograms worth of material melted and deposited, and that was usually over an hour, sometimes overnight, but for that one test, it was some insane chemical reaction we'd never heard of before went off as soon as we applied the electricity.
Sabot15 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:56:58 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep... it sounds like you were probably smarter than the people judging your project. People like these dumb "projects" because they feel smarter when they walk away. They aren't, but they think they are. They can't wait till they can pull the same one over on one of their not so smart friends.
As a chemist in a specialty chemical company, I can say that it doesn't get any better. Our leadership team has shifted to one which refuses to even try to understand the technology that they sell. The programs with the best story wins over the logical choices. Then, at the end of the year, we don't get our bonuses because we fail to hit business plan.
Working for people who aren't as smart as you can be beyond frustrating.
Tango_Whiskeyman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:08:14 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even at the graduate school level, the awards for best posters at a conference often seem completely arbitrary. More generally, recognition & success in science aren't really based on the amount of work you do as everyone is working really hard, but instead on the impact of your findings and your skill in presenting them.
40inmyfordfiesta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:03 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From what I remember, the people judging the local science fair knew fuck all about science.
No_Morals ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not bullshit. It's psychology. Just because it's not chemistry doesn't mean it's not science, this kid basically carried out a publish-worthy psychological study on his own.
His research brought new proof of a psychological concept to light, not just new to himself and his peers but new altogether. You just repeated experiments that have already been done before. They won't add anything to the science world. Nobody will make a wiki page about your experiments, they'll make a page about who originally did the same experiments.
Btw I got second place at the fair too, for a bullshit experiment I didn't even do the work for, on how milks of different fat content curdle at different rates. Totally useless. I even showed up late. First place was a friend who built a hovercraft, now that was deserving.
veggiter ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:43:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You might be right, but it wasn't really something he came up with at all. It sounds like this guy really experimented, whereas the dihydrogen monoxide joke first appeared in 1983.
Source
Sure, he compiled his own data, but he started with a conclusion that he knew had already been proven.
The experiments this guy described seemed more realistic and rigorous.
No_Morals ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, the joke was definitely around, but he used the joke to prove an actual psychological concept in a way it hadn't been proven before. He contributed new, useful research to the already-existing stockpile on the topic.
The experiments this guy described do sound more rigorous, but if someone's already done it before, it's not really worthy of winning any awards. Not at all trying to take away from the effort it must have taken, especially when it may have been entirely new to him personally.
veggiter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:10 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I don't know why you're getting downvoted for your opinion bro. I don't think it's that unreasonable, even though I disagree with you.
For one, I think the jokes made previously and the people who fell for them were evidence enough to show that people can be fooled by unfamiliar language. It was also well established and applied through the work of propagandists and marketers long before this kid was born.
I also don't think the intended purpose or a worthwhile goal of science fairs is to created studies for publishing or entry into scientific discourse. I think they are to promote learning, creativity, and fun while demonstrating students' newly acquired knowledge. They are also intended to make kids genuinely interested in actual science, which is generally drier and more complex than what you might find in a clickbait article.
But, yeah, I think it's tough to call. Personally I think the DMO project is more interesting and has a greater impact on people, but is that the purpose of a science fair? Should how cool something is (which is the main appeal for me) the best way to judge them? I think that's how you get dumb pop science articles that do more harm than good in informing the public.
I'm also not sure that project really taught the "author" anything new that he couldn't gather from the source material. If his project was based on a survey, how was his methodology and use of statistics? Was it solely based on one question? Couldn't he have elaborated and explored why people answered the way they did?
On the other hand, the project described here sounds like legit experimentation. It taught the authors about the scientific method, more realistic lab work, experimentation in general, the joy of discovery even within contexts that generally seem boring to others, and subsequently (but most importantly) that the originality and quality of your work do not guarantee popularity.
If I was a science teacher I think I would applaud realism over sensationalism and mass appeal. I mean, the project itself is the best argument against it winning.
I also wonder if people would have graded differently if they had known it wasn't purely original work.
No_Morals ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:08 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, what's a few downvotes. A good conversation is worth it.
Also, you make a really good point. I hadn't looked at it from the teacher's point of view.
I think you've convinced me here. I'd forgotten the actual reason we have science fairs. It's not to produce results, but rather to enrich the minds of students.
iyaerP ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:56 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ironically, it did the exact opposite. The experimental research, actual science and almost 30 pages of results, tables, math and hard work that we produced taking second place to something that ran on pure showmanship convinced me I didn't want to be a scientist. I had wanted to be a scientist since I was young since that was the first part of a long term goal of being an astronaut(typical kid dream, right?), but being snubbed after doing enough work for the science fair that it put my senior project 2 years later to shame poisoned that dream for me. I ended up going into software engineering instead. I just couldn't stand the idea of hard work and effort mattering less than showmanship and charisma in what should have been a contest of pure science.
veggiter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:15 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's kind of funny but also very sad. If they didn't get wrapped up in the "coolness" of the other project - and they shouldn't have - you would have gotten the reinforcement you needed.
Software engineer is a pretty sweet gig that probably pays better than a lot of others you could have ended up doing though.
veggiter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:10 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my guess is that the cool project wins pretty often, but invested teachers should be a bit wiser about it.
Atario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you have a hypothesis? Did you conduct experiments to see whether it was correct?
iyaerP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course. We made hypothesises for each set of experiments and tested them.
Atario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wellโฆ what kind of things were they?
iyaerP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How well certain metals would transfer, what acids were needed to reduce certain materials, our expectations for how how different materials would react with each other. Some, like plating zinc onto copper, worked really well, and came away looking almost professional. Others, like trying to plate lead or iron resulted in fuzzy growths on the target metal.
CommanderPaco ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:40:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get your gripe, but boy it's been a long time. I assume it was a school-wide science fair, no?
Plus, as much as the joke was around for over a decade before this, it how everything was carried out from a scientific perspective that got the win. Call it a mix of psychology and epidemiology...more psychology than anything else.
The fact that he pulled it of goes to show that simple concept of calling water by the name of it's chemical compound was something folks simply didn't understand science. Forget about your awesome electroplating project (I did something similar way back in in high school over a decade a go, so I get how awesome it is), people simply don't understand WTF water is! How ridiculous is that?
Think about it: if people don't understand the chemical compound name for water, they won't get the science behind the electroplating. They'll see it as something that looks cool and nod and smile at the science.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:01:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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iyaerP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, we were doing molar mass calculations for metal transfer, chemical breakdowns of metals and how they'd react with each other. That is some legit chemistry. Comparing that to a stupid fucking social experiment, it is clear that one is real science and the other is sensationalism.
twinb27 ยท 214 points ยท Posted at 18:14:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dihydrogen monoxide is used as a coolant in many nuclear reactors, and yet it has contaminated literally all lakes, rivers, and oceans on the planet.
bruisedunderpenis ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 18:58:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever I make this joke, I'm always extra careful not to use any words which carry a negative connotation in and of themselves or anything that would be technically false. So saying that bodies of water are "contaminated" with dihydrogen monoxide (water) is being a bit deceptive intentionally, whereas saying dihydrogen monoxide is found in every lake and river within a 25 mile radius of every nuclear reactor on the planet is factually accurate but still sounds just as "scary".
[deleted] ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 18:43:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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solidspacedragon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Accidental inhalation of dihydrogen monoxide can lead to unconsciousness and death!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:21:09 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rocket fuel???
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:08:54 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't say the most advanced rocket engines work on hydrolox, but besides that, liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen are way different than water. You don't just load up a rocket full of water and burn it.
838h920 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even your own body is contaminated! There were some tries to cure the people from said contamination, but all tries ended in failure and eventually death of the patient!
bullseyed723 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also in the bread at subway and yoga mats.
hokiedokie18 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And can kill you if the quantity is high enough
PM_ME_UR_APOLOGY ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:43:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure you know what that means.
Toriyosh ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:54:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sigh.. another ignorant member of the general public who can't see the true threat of dihydrogen monoxide in our world..
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My dad drank Dihydrogen monoxide.
The_MAZZTer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:54:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
s/has contaminated/can be found in/
PM_ME_UR_APOLOGY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, I can get behind that.
1Down ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wanted to make a "would you like some pancake with your syrup" style joke here but then I realized it wouldn't be funny because it would accurately describe the situation.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:02:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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PM_ME_UR_APOLOGY ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:06:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not the joke. He is not stating facts to deceive ignorant people, he's just lying.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:07:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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PM_ME_UR_APOLOGY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I specifically contested "contaminated." The water has not contaminated anything.
zosaj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
causing or capable of causing death or illness if taken into the body
Dihydrogen monoxide can easily kill you if taken into the body
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:57:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dude you get his joke don't be a dick about it
PM_ME_UR_APOLOGY ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:05:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's just not the same joke when you say "contaminate."
ImASexyBau5 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
joke
jลk
noun
1. a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.
Mixels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Needs more color.
goldandguns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Avoid this one. Don't make it sound common. If it's everywhere, in every lake and ocean, it probably isn't super harmful.
[deleted] ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 18:28:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of when The Man Show got a bunch of women to sign a petition to end women's suffrage. I copied them in high school and got a Saturday detention (fair enough imo, no suspension or anything, parents laughed about it).
KimH2 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:59:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What was the detention for? "You made your classmates look stupid"
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:06:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Offensive premise"
MattcVI ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hurt feelings
veggiter ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:35:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The bit would be a lot funnier if Adam Carolla didn't firmly believe that women are inferior to men in every possible way.
Poking fun at people loses its charm for me when there is a serious, hostile agenda behind it.
HawkEy3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any students sign it?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:27:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We set up shop at lunchtime and got almost a hundred signatures before a teacher came over. Literally nobody asked what suffrage was, I guess they just inferred that suffrage = suffering.
tweakingforjesus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:23:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is hilarious. I guarantee you that the teachers were laughing their asses off behind closed doors.
Sohcahtoa82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:55:18 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, "suffrage" is a stupid word because it is easily confused with suffering.
Just like the word "inflammable."
The opposite of insecure is secure.
The opposite of incorrect is correct.
The opposite of incompatible is compatible.
The list goes on...
So then can you really blame someone for thinking the opposite of "inflammable" is "flammable", and that if something says it's "inflammable" then it means it can't be set on fire?
HawkEy3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, I have to admit I did too and had to look up the word.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:32:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing wrong with that!
hanburgundy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:48 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what sprung to mind as well. That was a great segment.
"So many women are suffraging across our country, please help them!"
therinlahhan ยท 136 points ยท Posted at 19:28:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This explains so many things that plague American society today.
Squidkidz ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:03:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget the still common knowledge condemnation of MSG and cholesterol. It has recently been proven that MSG isn't really detrimental to your health in reasonable quantities and cholesterol is actually necessary in one's diet and actually has a lot of health benefits.
lw9k ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:26:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was never even proven that MSG was bad... It was just some quack doctors anecdote after eating bad Chinese food.
Joliet_Jake_Blues ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:48:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin is so proud of being pro vaccine, but he refuses to take generic drugs. Says they don't work as well and are fake.
I think he confused them with Mexican knockoffs, but no one can convince him otherwise and my aunt pays a butt load more for his prescription, because insurance only covers the generic.
TargetBoy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:44:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a grain of truth to the generic thing. Some genetics use buffer compounds that behave differently than the brand. Some people have a different metabolism ama don't process those add well as the name brand. Also works the other way. Sometimes the generic work better for people who don't tolerate other ingredients in the name brand well.
tinycatsays ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:45 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is also an allowable difference in the amount of active ingredient between brands and their generic equivalents. For most medications, this is minor enough that your doctor won't care which one you take. For some, like anticonvulsants, this small difference is enough to affect the dosage.
swiftb3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I almost aways choose generic, but I did once see a generic ibuprofen brand that said "up to 200 mg" on the bottle. Sounded a little suspicious to me.
hellosexynerds ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:58:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to agree with you on all points except I don't think environmental extremism is plaguing america unless you mean that around half of the US thinks that maybe we should possibly some day look into doing something about climate change now that there is overwhelming evidence it is occurring, damaging crops, affecting ecosystems and destroying entire islands.
The problem with this dihydrogen monoxide joke is a lot of republican types use it to say we don't need to care for the environment at all because "see it is just silly stupid people afraid of water". No, there really are harmful things in the world of chemistry believe it or not.
therinlahhan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:16 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Environmental protection is one thing, but environmental extremism is in reference to those who let their concern for the environment significantly affect their lives to the point of them looking down on and shaming others, and so on.
I'm all for helping the environment in general though. Anything we can do to me more efficient helps our way of life in the long run.
hellosexynerds ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:27:22 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
examples of common extremism?
Dharmasabitch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:40:03 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'll be waiting awhile. Of course there are the small-scale crazies like there are for anything, but there is no anti-scientific environmental movement of any size. It's a Bush-era farce, part of the same set of lies that made people abandon "global warming" despite it being perfectly descriptive.
YOU_FILTHY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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TheCanadianVending ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 20:42:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
GMO's quite literally allows us to eat. Because we modify the genetics of plants, we can make them resistant to plant disease, make them better in cold/warm climates, and allow them to generate more of the stuff we eat. Without GMO's we would have much less food
Andrikas ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 20:59:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah and that's an absolute truth. It's all 100% good without any kind of side (health or environmental) effects ever neverneverever.
TheCanadianVending ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:07:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, nothing is 100% good; water will kill you if you have too much. GMO's are one of humanities greatest achievements, because we can now make food in previously ungrowable land.
And what environmental tragedies have occurred directly because of GMO's?
aznBottle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:32:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It lead to increasingly most herbicide resistant weeds and pesticide resistant bugs. http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=12804&page=214
And this leads to farmers force to buy improved GMO seeds each year because old version become less effective against weeds, bugs and diseases. So after a few cycles, the farmers depend on these big GMO companies. The top 5 GMO companies control more than 90% of the market.
TheCanadianVending ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:56:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair point
Also, the top few companies of any field control most of the market. I can not think of one area (excluding media) which this isn't true.
0x6A7232 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:29:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't media owned by like, 5 companies worldwide or something?
TheCanadianVending ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:34:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I meant media as in entertainment. I really just meant games, because I am pretty sure there is no controlling company in the games industry
YOU_FILTHY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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TheCanadianVending ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:57:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It sounds much like the antibiotic problem we have right now
suchshibeinu ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:20:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
GMOs are crucial to us but it is not without drawbacks. For example, cultivation of GMOs can adversely affect biodiversity.
JohnFest ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:57:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would respectfully contend that its major scale monoculture that impacts biodiversity, GMOs are simply a tool in that arsenal. I don't see how GMOs are any more of a threat to biodiversity than other methods of artificial selection. Honestly, correct me if I'm wrong.
suchshibeinu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:24 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm definitely not an expert in agriculture because my only knowledge is from O Levels human geography.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:39:17 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's because of an AMA awhile back where the person doing the AMA convinced half of reddit that there's no difference between selective breeding and any other form of genetic modification, and that there couldn't possibly be any negative consequences, dietary or otherwise, from any form of genetic modification. I'm not saying modern GMO's cause cancer or anything, but you can't possibly argue that growing large amounts of genetically modified crops outdoors won't have any impact on larger ecosystems.
YOU_FILTHY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:31 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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aznBottle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:25:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I think is because in many places, the entire area use the exact same GMO crop due to monopoly that there is almost no diversity and a single disease can wipe out everything. GMO per se is not bad, but in today world, monopoly of the crop is one of the many problems.
It lead to increasingly most herbicide resistant weeds and pesticide resistant bugs. http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=12804&page=214
And this leads to farmers force to buy improved GMO seeds each year because old version become less effective against weeds, bugs and diseases. So after a few cycles, the farmers depend on these big GMO companies. The top 5 GMO companies control more than 90% of the market.
Col_Douglas_Mortimer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:03:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Genetically modifying organisms is something humans have done for a long time. Things like hybridization is just a very primitive form of genetic modification. The technology that allows us to edit genes with such precision is vastly more controllable and cost efficient than wasting time mixing and matching organisms, hoping that the traits we desire appear in a timespan worth a fuck. Its something that could help us reduce waste and resources that could be put to better uses by making nature itself more efficient, something humans have done for a long time.
While people should never be condemned for questioning conventional wisdom, the anti-GMO movement trades on the general public's ignorance of such methods. It's also worth noting that the organic industry also benefits from this ignorance and has a vested interest in making sure GMOs do not disturb their industry.
This example of Dihydrogen Monoxide is an example of that. Look at the comments and some of the ways this 'dangerous molecule' can be spun simply by trading off people's ignorance of science.
truantt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weeeell it's not all bad, I suppose. As a legit gluten-free bastard of many years: ignorance is bliss.
t80088 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:00 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The gluten free diet trend is a double edged sword in terms of benefits to people who actually have celiac's disease. A close family member of mine is a celiac and although they now have many more options, a lot of the time "gluten free" products actually contain gluten.
swiftb3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:33 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well that sucks. The one reason I don't complain too much about the fad is because I figured it was beneficial for actual celiacs.
t80088 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Typically its not the actual products but instead things in restaurants, I.E the waiter says its gluten free when they don't even switch the surface they use for making gluten and non-gluten products. Typically he has to learn what is actually gluten free by trial and error, (although there are some online resources that are useful but also not 100% reliable). Although I think overall its been sort of a net positive because at least now he actually has options, and the whole fad did help to bring awareness to the issue.
Middleman79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:04:20 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clinton vs Trump.
HumSol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:09 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, is it really what you think it is? I'm not anti-vax, but vaccination support is incredibly inflated with BS. The hive-mind supporters are honestly just as bad as anti-vax. They fear monger, plead for emotional appeal, and practice loose logic. Being unvaccinated (me, my wife, and children are all vaccinated) isn't nearly as much of a danger as they make it out to be. The deaths involved are insignificant in comparison to many other events in life that cause death, such as car accidents, lightning, construction, animal attacks, etc. This is even with taking the herd into account. General hygiene, which make huge improvements in the early 1900's, is a great way to fend off disease, bacteria, and viruses alone. Vaccines just give that extra support.
Anti-GMO isn't about the dangers of the food themselves, despite what the health nuts claim. The reality isn't about the harm it presents to the person, but the environment and plant species itself. It's a dangerous game, and we're playing with science we pretend to understand. If we really understood what we were doing, drugs wouldn't have the laundry list of side effects you read on your label, and recalls wouldn't occur. If you believe that one day we could invent perfect medicine, you must concede that implies we currently have an imperfect understanding of chemicals and their reactions to biological matter, as well as a youthful understanding of genetics. What will be think of science 200 years from now looking back?
Environmental Extremism? You'll have to elaborate. That can be quite a varied definition depending on who you ask.
Gluten...you got that one.
HighPriestofAtheism ยท 127 points ยท Posted at 17:32:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since it's looking like a lewd g-string im not surprised they did ban it!
[deleted] ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 17:49:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Putting the HO in H2O.
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:51:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
2 cause that's how many men she sleeps with per day.
[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 17:57:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So OPs mom is H23984623489565438563856835638473546O?
ryanfan03 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:12:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes
Hammelj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried to work it out and got H-2147483648O
UNiFiED_ChAoS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, you nailed it. That's her number. She's in Dallas.
quintuple_mi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
H8675309O
BangedYourMum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ayy
FredCompany ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
H_{MAX_INT} O
LEEVINNNN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:57 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude that's like... More than the world's population.
horrorshowmalchick ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:16:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Enough with this base humor.
toadofsteel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*OH
Sandwichfeet93 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:14:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lewd or LUUUUBE
automatic_shark ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:18:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not just LUE? Best site on the internet
brynairy ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 17:48:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
get the facts people!
1point5volts ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 18:14:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and yet they still have the layout of a 90s website
ChemicalKid ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 18:18:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's how you know it hasn't been tainted by all those evil scientists who want to feed you lies.
blumathu ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:29:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And a website visitor counter!
therealmaxipadd ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:36:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Christ. Should I dial my modem before visiting?
Sepiac ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:18:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should. When's the last time you talked to her?
myusermane ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:43:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like the last time the site was actually updated was October 14, 2004. So there's that.
nythyn12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:38:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Content veracity not implied"
Scyer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:43:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That website is actually an oooooold trick for college students in the early net days. It has most of what would be considered a "Good source" back then. Primarily to teach that you can't believe everything just because it LOOKS legit.
It's got some javascript code likely auto updating that date.
Edit: Of course by today's net design it's horribly obvious >>
Hendokin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Translation Powered By AltaVista Babel Fish"
MokitTheOmniscient ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They don't even use CSS.
solidspacedragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The add for amce klein bottles XD
"Yesterday's tomorrow is here, today!"
OctagonClock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, it was last modified on
Mon, 05 Oct 2015 21:08:10 GMT.1point5volts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh they probably have it set to show it updates everyday
koshgeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's been around for a long time. Maybe not 1990s, but early 2000s for sure.
The style fits perfectly with the "secret conspiracy" slant anyway. I hope they don't "modernize" it.
Caption_Bots_Dad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's cause the people who run the website are under the influence of DHMO. For all you know you could be too...
classicalalpha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a teacher show us this website in high school as part of media studies.
All of us were thinking, "What the hell? Why isn't this banned?" And then he told us to google what dihydrogen monoxide was. Honestly it is one of my most memorable classes! Thanks for linking.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm confused...is it serious or satire?
1-800-DIK-BUTT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't say!
jandcando ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Part of my wants to buy a t-shirt from this site just to see if I'll get one. Like... are they still around?
Kookies4u ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 18:26:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is a true fact?
manjar ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:33:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The best kind of fact!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:26:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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RoboticChicken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:24:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Spacesso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:47 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your welcome
aazav ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:07:26 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fact: all facts are true by definition.
bran_buckler ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:41:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A true fact is a fact that has truthiness to it, unlike those false facts. Those are just fiction.
Omena123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:11:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lil ol facto
film_composer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sleep tight facter
larrythefatcat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to think of them as humorous videos about animals (and Morgan Freeman) by ZeFrank.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Kookies4u ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you
gamer8321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% of people who come in contact with dihydrogen monoxide die
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An emphatic exclamation.
Atario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Better than a fact, but not as good as an authentic true fact
probsaburner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:16 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's a fact that isn't false. Check this out There is a relatively accepted definition, i think it's primarily used in math and science, for facts that just classify them as anything that can be proven or disproven.
aazav ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He needs to be shot for that.
ReclusiveCodeMonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:42 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Archaeology is the search for fact, not truth. If it's truth you're looking for Dr. Tyree's philosophy class is just down the hall."
Regularjoe42 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:29:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My high school chemistry teacher tried pulling this one on my class, but by that time everyone had heard of it.
Prof: I will give out extra credit to anyone who joins this protest againt Dihydrogen Monoxide I am organizing.
A student: That's water, right? Also how much extra credit.
Lord_Retro ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:00:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did he react ?
Regularjoe42 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:05:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With mild disappointment and cancelling the protest.
3urny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the spirit.
zedsdeadbby ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:15:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My fourth grade teacher tricked us with the Dihydrogen Monoxide bit. He had it in one of those little tubes that film used to come in and he was telling us how dangerous it was. Then he knocked it back and presumably enjoyed the look on our stupid little faces. He quickly told us it was water. Probably one of my favorite teachers.
abittooshort ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 18:38:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of the GMO labelling debate when you hear the comment "but it's just stating facts. Why are you against stating facts?" from organisations who have very openly stated they are using labelling to ban GMOs.
Jagermeister4 ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 19:07:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If GMOs are so harmless, why won't you list on the product that it contains GMOs?
Later
If GMOs are so harmless, why do products have to inform us if they have GMOs in them?
PM_Me_Humble_Bundles ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:54:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god, I heard the sing-song yet still condescending voice...
cybercuzco ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:29:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This comment contains words known to the state of California to describe cancer.
Sohcahtoa82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:31 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Funny, I didn't see the word "feminism" in that comment.
helpnxt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tbf I like the statement from the head of a UK supermarket on GMOs (can't remember exact words) it essentially said people won't care if it contains GMOs or not, as long as they are cheaper
abittooshort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except here in the UK after GMO labelling came in, supermarkets were tripping over themselves to declare how GMO-free their own-brand foods were because the public panicked about it so much.
PartyPorpoise ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:22:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lately I've been tempted to make fake information images just to see how many people share them on social media. Like talking about how there are less than 300 Mississippi river dolphins left because of pollution, or something.
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:27:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you decide to do this please save my username and message me with the results! I would be interested to see.
PartyPorpoise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:46 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, I probably won't end up doing it (it's kind of mean, people generally don't like it when you make them look stupid...) but if I do, I'll be sure to message ya, ha ha.
SaggiSponge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:17:10 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Message me too! Sure plenty of people won't like it, but plenty of people don't like being proven wrong. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.
PartyPorpoise ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:07 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit, this encouragement is making me tempted!
MycoBro ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 18:39:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shows how old this played out joke is
mspk7305 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:51:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it is only played out if people stop falling for it
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:39:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone tried this at my work once, you'd think working in a chemical lab would make people less likely to fall for it.
SaggiSponge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:52 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So... People fell for it?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:02:44 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A few.
osee115 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of the college guy that got a ton of women to sign a petition to end women's suffrage.
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:00:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heres the reference to the Wikipedia paragraph.
It is a little more detailed.
melvinsparkbucket ยท 338 points ยท Posted at 17:01:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do we celebrate people who know how to manipulate people....oh wait, yes we do they're elected to office
Feroshnikop ยท 253 points ยท Posted at 17:52:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well..
I mean, should we instead be celebrating idiots who would vote to ban water?
[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 18:12:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm good with drinking beer.
Edit: Because redditors are incredibly stupid and didn't realize this was a joke...it's a joke.
Jon_Hanson ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 18:18:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just don't look at the ingredients list for your beer.
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 18:24:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god.
TitaniuIVI ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:36:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, it has hops. Part of the Cannabaceae family. Same as the marijuana. You better not get caught or you'r going to federal pound me in the ass prison.
One_True ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:41:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And you're a very BAD person Peter
BigTimpin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
removes glasses dramatically
galadedeus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:06 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ROFL
luigis_girlfriend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm reminded of the California ban on wait staff giving refills of glasses of water without specifically being asked by the customer. Meanwhile, that half-eaten hamburger dumped into the trash at the end of the meal took hundreds of gallons of water to produce.
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:16:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not Kid Beer?
jodraws ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your beer is contaminated with dihydrogen monoxide.
blackmagemasta ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:33:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, it's cool. The alcohol kills it.
tankgirl85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's how the guy on cabin fever didn't get cabin fever, so you must be doing something right.
BrownSugarBare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I vote for this guy
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Want to get a beer, man?
CheesyMightyMo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:26:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You alright there, kiddo?
CheesyMightyMo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:28:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...Is there not any dihydrogen monoxide in beer?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a joke, man.
Skipaspace ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:24:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are right but he used the scientific term, these were 14 year olds. If would have used the term water he wouldn't have gotten the same result. I get that was part of the point.
It is manipulative, which is the point. The point was not to be like look how stupid people are they voted to ban water, it's look how using a relatively unknown term for a common substance can be used to get the result you want.
nythyn12 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:36:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The point was to show how people can form strong objections to things without actually understanding said thing.
Mystery_Hours ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:55:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How many of us truly understand any scientific phenomenon though? We all rely on other people to help us understand how dangerous something is.
nythyn12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:03:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess this situation is a little different, but it seems very similar to cases where people are anti-chemicals because of a chemicals name without actually knowing anything about it.
The fear of chemicals themselves. Which is ridiculous.
Slam_Burgerthroat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And also how powerful group think and manufactured outrage can be. Everybody else seems to think X is bad, therefore X must be bad. It bothers me that people behave this way without taking a moment to stop and ask why X is bad.
Drews232 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But that's a social experiment not a science project
nythyn12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Social science haha?
runetrantor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This would have worked with a lot of adults though, the scientific name is not commonly used. Many if asked about water's scientific term will at most say H2O.
It was imo, a good project to show how even with the truth, you can twist it to get the intended results, not that it's specifically about water, but about facts being able to be used for whatever you want, and it can be detrimental.
Slam_Burgerthroat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unknown term? They teach chemistry in middle school.
CarpeKitty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10463579
xLabrinthx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
r/ImSadThisIsReal
motleybook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, but it's not like these two are the only option. It's possible to be intelligent without tricking people.
anarchography ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, those stupid junior high schoolers. How dare 14 year olds not have a sold grasp of chemical names.
I mean he made a valid point, but I don't really fault the students who fell for it. I wouldn't really fault adults for initially falling for it, either. There's nothing wrong with not being able to immediately identify distortions of scientific fact. The problem comes when people don't recognize that such distortions are a possibility and aren't willing to listen to others point them out.
Feroshnikop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The problem is people acting on information they don't even understand.
If you don't understand what someone has said to you, you shouldn't be making decisions based on what they said.
Like if someone tells me "don't eat anymore food because your food has helephandus contamination" I'll probably find out what 'helephandus contamination' is before I decide that A. my food even has it B. I will stop eating food
It doesn't make you stupid to be told something you don't understand. It does make you stupid to act on something you don't understand.
mspk7305 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a surprising overlap between them.
JohnFest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We are the idiots who would vote to ban water. That's the point he was making and, in my opinion, is much more poignant when you ignore that he was pitching to other kids and consider analogues in the adult world. The DHMO ban is essentially the PATRIOT Act (and a million other pieces of fear-fueled legislation) that Americans have ignorantly supported for decades.
Miknarf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not neither?
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:58:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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the_ocalhoun ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:19:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Until the next guy who comes along tries to get them to ban Muslims instead of banning water.
Feroshnikop ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:04:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
... until "they know" whatever the next person tells them they should know.
stern_father_figure ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:12:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
Munkles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty discriminatory to water.
The problem with the uninformed and easily manipulated is that emotional appeals win the argument regardless of merit and wind up preventing serious discussion.
Lmitation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
they don't know shit, they just go with the flow and follow whatever ideology is being used to manipulate them at the moment.
learath ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:20:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the overwhelming answer: YES
Feroshnikop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree.. we should in no way be celebrating debilitating stupidity.
learath ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:04:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, well, unfortunately for us we are in the vanishing minority.
Jorhiru ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But that's not what this proves even remotely... All it proves is that most people don't have a background in Chemistry, and trusted the person deliberately using obscure terminology.
Feroshnikop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean that's not what this proves?
"this" literally IS people voting to ban water because someone told them to.. which is stupid. I'm not sure how you think something that happens doesn't prove itself.
Jorhiru ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:38:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you being obtuse? Do you know what literally means? Because here, what he literally asked them to do was ban dihydrogen monoxide. Just because that's a term for water doesn't change what he was asking them, and that's significant. Had he literally asked everyone to ban water, then there wouldn't be a story here, would there?
Feroshnikop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do know what literally means.
And those classmates literally voted to ban water.
This is because dihydrogen monoxide is literally water.
Jorhiru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, so you're not being obtuse, you just have a hard time grasping relatively simple concepts. I could ask whether or not you've ever ingested methylcarbinol, and if you are like most people who do not have a chemistry background, you would have to go look it up - not because you're stupid (maybe), but because it's a term not familiar to you. Just because that refers to alcohol does not make it what I asked you. What I LITERALLY asked you was "Do you drink methylcarbinol?"
Feroshnikop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
which is also literally asking me if I drink any other synonyms of methylcarbinol. This is because of what synonyms are.
Either way, if you ask someone anything, and they answer without bothering to find out what they are answering.. they are not a smart person.
For example, if you asked me if I drink "sadl;fha;l" I would ask what "sadl;fha;l" was before answering the question.
Jorhiru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough, but 14 year olds in a science fair are not voting adults. And when you're talking to voting adults about anything, one should use language that is clear and generally understood, and not deliberately select language or terminology that is obscure or unknown -unless one seeks to mislead. Trust me, the idiocy of the public is well known to me, but this sort of thing proves nothing and certainly helps nothing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. If somebody asks you to ban something, and you haven't done your own research to find out what it is and what its potential dangers are, then you shouldn't sign their petition. Think for a second before you act.
studentthinker ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:05:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Although this kid is definitely on the superhero front: using his manipulating powers for good.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:16:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Donald Trump is just trying to ace his school project.
miggitymikeb ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:22:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still not convinced that his entire presidential run isn't for some sick reality show. Just waiting for the "haha gotcha! just kidding!" punch line.
blaghart ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:29:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It'll come if he wins, where he'll nominated Sanders as his vp then resign, just to watch the world burn as hillary and trump supporters explode.
LegendOfJuan ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:26:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what everyone said a year ago and look where we are now. This election is one big shit show.
CaptainAwesome06 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
According to someone who was supposedly on his campaign, he realistically expected to get 2nd place and now he is way out of his league and just winging it.
ThatSmegmaGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I truly believe Trump and Hillary are still friends Trump owes Hillary a solid from way back when and he's just making good on his word. He's probably a pretty stand up guy when it comes to his friends.
Atario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what he'll do if he loses
MannToots ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:06:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How was asking them a simple question that showed their knowledge of the chemical name for water manipulation? You either know or you don't.
Slaytounge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah information and intelligence are different things.
CaptainAwesome06 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you should actually read it. He presented facts that, when taken out of context, sound horrible. Such as, the chemical is responsible for a ton of deaths. Sounds awful until you realize it just means people drowned.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:01:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't quiz them on the chemical name for water, he convinced them to vote to ban a substance that is essential for life.
Diablo_Cow ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because asking for the name of water is like asking someone what 2+2 is. Its such a basic fact that everyone should know that by asking people to ban it, you are showing how bad the school system is and capitalizing on people's fears of chemicals brought upon by the media pouncing on every chance to exaggerate "X chemicals is dangerous, does it cause cancer, Fact or Fiction? Turn in at 7 to find out".
Its preying on people's ignorance and good intentions to show how bad the American school system is.
solarayz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Preying is such a hostile word. It wasn't like they were left any worse after this experience.
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:32:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Congress v. Progress
Get it?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:22:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Joe nobody cares
sippeangelo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:49:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit
Positronix ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:52:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=congress
from com- "together" (see com-) + gradi "to walk,"
ThatsMyHoverboard is just proving the OP's point
Zizimaza ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:48:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The opposite of congress is digress. The opposite of progress is regress.
http://giphy.com/gifs/d2YVk2ZRuQuqvVlu/html5
NilacTheGrim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:17 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's the opposite of orgasm?
MinneapolisNick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SO BRAVE
AK_Happy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DAE think politishuns r bad ppl?
jago81 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:15:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait...are you saying this kid was wrong for doing this? He was proving a point, not harming anyone. Jesus, why does someone ALWAYS have to bring in politics.
FattyMooseknuckle ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 18:21:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Penn and Teller Bu!!shit episode of it was hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw
SuperMar1o ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:23:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Solution, never sign any petitions!!!
FattyMooseknuckle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:47:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More like, learn what you're signing.
SuperMar1o ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:11:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://i.imgur.com/ncOYrMu.jpg
Reive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:30 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I miss that show.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:41:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, this was before the internet fit in your pocket.
If someone came up to me when I was 14 and told me about Dihydrogen Monoxide, I'd probably go along with it too. Most kids that age don't know shit about it. If anything, they'd know that Monoxide is bad from Carbon Monoxide and make a connection that way.
It just shows that people put too much faith in what they read and hear. This stems from a generic lack of skeptical analysts and from a blind trust in the researcher.
cityterrace ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:29:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's impossible not to put blind trust and faith in order to function in modern society. I don't know how the traffic light, elevator, bridges, etc. work. But I put blind trust that they'll work properly in my day-to-day existence.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel that's a little different than someone telling you a piece of information.
cityterrace ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:47:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I don't have the time nor energy to verify every bit of information bombarded at me. Especially when most of the time it'll be correct and if it's wrong, it has a minimal impact on my life anyway.
For example, let's take something as important as climate change. That's a big fucking deal. But I don't have the expertise or time to understand every aspect of it. And when the most significant effects won't matter for a hundred years, frankly, I have too many other things to worry about. Like getting into a good college, etc.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Calm down broski. I was just making an observation.
The kid in OPs topic was awarded for showing that people lack general research capabilities and often put a trust in the researcher that they did their jobs properly. Which is a far more interesting observation than totally tricking some kids into hating water lulz.
cityterrace ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:31:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Things come off sounding different in writing. I didn't mean to sound that offended or anything. Sorry if it seemed that way.
The kid came up with an ingenious way to demonstrate that people become gullible with respect to science. My only point is that with so much reliance on science & technology in the modern world, that's a natural thing to do.
It reminds me of the brain teaser where adults can't find the mistake of two consecutive "the"'s in a sentence while 5 y.o.'s find it easily.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it might just be in my nature to be inquisitive. I have a habit of looking at all the angles and I have a pretty decent BS detector. It is hard to explain.
Certain things just make me go, no way that doesn't sound right.
hellosexynerds ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You would drive across a bridge built by a random homeless person? Bridges are not built on faith. They are built by people with a proven knowledge of thousands of years of research and testing, standards, requirements, and the help of many engineers. Also if the traffic light or elevators did not work most of the time I doubt you would trust them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A bridge built by a random homeless person normally wouldn't even look the same as those by professionals. But a stable-looking bridge where I don't know who made it? Yes. And yes, I wouldn't trust traffic lights or elevators if they wouldn't work regularly, but that's not the important point - if a researcher says I can use an elevator safely on my very first time, I'm going to trust him and I'd continue to do that until I'd made the experience that no, this elevator doesn't work at all or I've heard enough people refute this claim. It's the same stuff people believe about their food: potatoes have the most vitamins beneath their peel (?), MSG is unhealthy, carbohydrates is what's making you fat. Or 9 gulps of water help against hiccups. It's more like common sense than scientific facts, but people believe it nonetheless.
cityterrace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have personal knowledge of this? And by personal knowledge, I mean direct, first-hand knowledge. You saw the research. You witnessed the testing. You saw the engineers attend these schools. Or are you relying on others telling you the truth about the research, testing, blah, blah, blah? Like how the classmates of the 14 y.o. boy relied on him telling them the truth.
Biggieduece ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I need the Internet to learn about basic chemistry?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:19:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The basic idea is that whenever you don't know something, you look it up. Pre-internet if you wanted to learn about something you had to really research it. Like go down to the library and research it.
Now it is a google search away.
As an example, do you know off hand what the chemical formula for sulfuric acid is?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always remember it by a rhyme I learned long ago in a junior high science class...
"Johnny was a little boy
But Johnny is no more
For what he thought was H2O
Was H2SO4"
(That's how I remember the teacher reciting it, but googling shows several variations.)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really like this. Have an upvote sir!
Biggieduece ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
H2SO4
I went down to my local library picked up a book I cheated though I had to ask the librarian where to look because fuck this Dewey decimal system. But there you go.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This too but they also trusted the researcher had their best interest in mind as well.
FrugalAssGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do not think people are any smarter today with smartphones in their pockets. Stupid is more ubiquitous than you think.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe I am just more curious than most people.
Atario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yesโฆ that was the point
robertito42 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:08:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So brave I bet he fucking loves science on Facebook
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:10:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I havent replied to many comments on here but this one actually made me laugh.
robertito42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:18:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
๐๐ป
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:54:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got in trouble for an april fools joke at the office where i posted signs by the water coolers saying: Warning: This water has high levels of hydrogen.
Zanxor0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can have dissolved hydrogen gas in water.
AOEUD ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:50:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alternate title:
"If you aim to be misleading, you will mislead people."
loljetfuel ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:34:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is important to the whole point he set out to make: that you can be misleading without ever telling an untruth.
AOEUD ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:17:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Using Google Scholar to look up "dihydrogen monoxide", there are only 475 results and the first two results are using the word to confuse people. Everyone, chemists included, calls it "water".
Speak gibberish and you will be misunderstood. That's not worth first prize in a science fair.
ComradeAri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's about signing random shit without doing any critical research.
FlyingChihuahua ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:03:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What was misleading?
He told the truth. He told it in a round-a-bout way, but it was still the truth.
Amusei015 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:07:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was his whole point: how to be misleading while still telling the truth.
Slaytounge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right. He told the truth in a misleading way.
GlyphGryph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a very good GMO labeling analog, really. You can intend to and successfully communicate many things that are untrue, solely by making true statements.
AOEUD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The use of the word "dihydrogen monoxide" is almost exclusively reserved for non-technical use to confuse people. In scientific parlance it's almost always referred to as "water".
Using Google Scholar to look up "dihydrogen monoxide", there are only 475 results and the first two results are using the word to confuse people.
Speak gibberish and you will be misunderstood. That's not worth first prize in a science fair.
OGMagicConch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:48:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here it is used to be confusing, but it wasn't a word that was just made to create confusion. It's IUPAC nomenclature, giving a way to name H2O not just as H two O.
sourc3original ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:26 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally the first google result of "hydrogen monoxide" is a wiki article saying that its just water. Get out of here with your bullshit.
feeltheslipstream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:40 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you missed the point.
This is like saying no project deserves a prize at the high school level because we already know the results of the project, and it's not new, groundbreaking research.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:37:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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MystyDikship ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:02:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a Facebook friend post a link to an "Anti Dihydrogen Monoxide" Group asking for signatures to ban it's use in juice. She urged all her friends to get "educated" on the issue because as parents we had to protect our children. I told her she had stumbled across a spoof group, and tried to explain, even using the Wikipedia links, and other sources. She blocked me, but only after suggesting I had drank the "kool-aid", and that I was the one in the dark.
TiffanyMiddleton ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:58:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm honestly sick of the chemicals fear. If it has a chemical name, it has to be bad. I wish people would just stop with this shit.
Steam_Punky_Brewster ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:40:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think we should request an AMA from this guy. I bet 20 years ago he didn't expect people to still talk about his science project.
Inigomntoya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:12 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to this Jr High and remember his interview on the radio the next day. AMA?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:18 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Inigomntoya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:32 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you always begin AMA's this way?
AWOL768 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:13:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From DHMO.org...
More completely true statements that will lead you to the wrong conclusion if you don't understand.
bdeee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:09:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thumbnail looks like big booty pouring out of red thong underwear. At a 45 degree angle I guess.
shadowbandit08 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:21:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who else thought the hydrogen atom was a butt
purplemoosen ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:48:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean water molecule.
daydaypics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A juicy one too
NilacTheGrim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:24 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now the question is.. do you find it sexy?
shadowbandit08 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:28 on June 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's just say.. hell yeah
newaccount1619 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:13:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He'd make a great politician.
unbiasedpropaganda ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:39:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"true facts" lol
LocalPeasant ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:56:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the thumbnail was a butt.
Biolust ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:56:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thumbnail looked like underwear
lowkey218 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:03:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This kid better have gotten a medal for trolling
LetThereBeNick ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:09:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I only drink natural dihidrogen monoxide. Anything synthesized in a reaction is chemicals, and I'm not putting that in my body!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love it when they use buzz words to advertise their ions, such as 'ions' or 'electrolyte'.
Water is naturally composed of ions!
domaswin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:03:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is Brexit-relevant
ironmanmk42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:14:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait.... This is exactly what politicians want to do.
Hide the true facts to help the ignorant public not get to false conclusions.
And we lambaste them for this and say - give us the truths, the true facts. Let ignorant public make false conclusions.
Then in cases of things like GMO, why don't we do the same?
There's some hypocrisy here
Funnyalt69 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:22:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Purposely misleading someone is the same as lying to me.
bumbuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is. Or should be regarded as lying. Regardless if it's factual l it's being twisted to tell a narrative that is less than honest.
apopheniac1989 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:33:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever people talk about this, they inevitably miss the real point of it. All they do is circlejerk about how stupid and gullible people are. The real takeaway should be that facts, even true ones, can be manipulated if you use clever language. That's the most important thing that people miss in modern politics. Very rarely is anyone "lying" outright. There's always some subtle linguistic sleight of hand.
In any case. It should be a lesson to us all that you could be fooled too.
duanee30 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:57:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The media is doing this same thing to us everyday. Not about water, but about guns, religion, politics and pretty much everything else.
interyama ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:23:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can relate a lot to this in regards to the UK and the way people are going to vote tomorrow.
keepa78 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:57:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a college professor and I do a similar activity with my students. When we talk about evaluating websites for content and accuracy, I give them several sites including dhmo.org which is all about the "dihydrogen monoxide crisis". Only one of the websites I give my students is not a hoax, and I can't tell you how many of them pick this one. I always have to gently break it to them that the site is a great hoax, but it's about water. And these are adults who presumably graduated from high school and took chemistry!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:37:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hello ... im new to reddit... i am surprised how well spoken the comments are here... more patience and seems that its worth arguing with someone and listening to their opinion. Thank you ...
dontsheeple ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:07:32 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use a product at work that is diluted with water,tired of coworkers taking my bottle instead of refilling their own,I wrote Contains Dihydrogen Monoxide on it in big bold letters.It's fun watching people get 3 steps while reading it and immediately put it back.
Seakawn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:13:13 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is great. I live with a family right now via AirBNB and one of the kids is a 14 year old freshman. I'll occasionally watch movies or shows or play video games with him, and try to challenge his intelligence every now and then and test his maturity since he's come to somewhat look up to me.
But I don't think he'd even begin to even realize the significance of something like this. And he's not dumb, either. Much less be the one to realize it and test it for a project. I should bring this up to him and see if he even understands why this is such an awesome insight for a kid his age to grasp.
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:15:25 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You Should!
frostrot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:37:03 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thumbnail looks like a butt in a thong...that is all.
TheGrovestar ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:03:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Point proven that Americans will ban anything that looks or sounds scary
seve_rage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why just Americans? I think that's a common trait across humanity.
TheGrovestar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because the anti-vaxxer movement is pretty much based in America and focuses on banning scary sounding stuff
kalitarios ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:18:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/misleadingthumbnails
LaughingVergil ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:50:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If we taught people how to reason instead of how to memorize and regurgitate, it would be harder to trick people this way. Unfortunately, most politicians, religious leaders, and advertisers prefer that we don't have those lessons.
ryusage ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:32:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly I don't see how knowing "how to reason" will help you here. It's reasonable to assume there are lots of dangerous chemicals out there that you're unfamiliar with. I guess you might argue that reason should tell you that the dangers people attribute to "Dihydrogen Monoxide" are so extreme as to be unrealistic. But it's also reasonable to assume there are relatively common things that cause widespread harm even if you yourself have never seen it.
Ironically, having memorized the elements and roots used in chemical names and what they mean is the main thing that would tip you off to this prank.
JustinCayce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ironically, having memorized the elements and roots used in chemical names and what they mean is the main thing that would tip you off to this prank.
Which kind of proves his point. If he'd been taught how to reason, he wouldn't have made that mistake.
geniice ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 18:16:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. The reasoning is pretty sound. The standard monoxide a non chemist will know about is carbon monoxide. Thus thinking monxides are bad is not unreasonable (sure in practice you are never going to run across most of the other things that are refered to as monoxides but not messing with Dichloride monoxide is a definite survival trait).
For your average person being worried about things with ah chemically names is again not unreasonable. Due to historic naming conventions a lot of the things primarily known by chemically names are things the average person shouldn't be messing with.
miggitymikeb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hydrox cookies tho
geniice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hydrox isn't a chemical term though (yes I know divers use it to refer to a hydrogen oxygen mix). So something to do with Lanhydrock?
Slam_Burgerthroat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally everything in our world has a "chemically name." This is 7th grade level chemistry.
geniice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Helium, neon and good luck feeding a diamond of any size into a chemical name generator.
That there is a nominal chemical name for something doesn't mean that anyone even chemists in a chemical enviroment actualy use it (So glucose rather than (2R,3S,4R,5R)-2,3,4,5,6-Pentahydroxyhexanal).
Slaytounge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't feel like you're actually disagreeing with the person you replied to.
geniice ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:34:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The people being tricked are reasoning and their reasoning is pretty reasonable for a non-chemist.
sourc3original ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:40 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, no its not. Whatever the substance, the first thing that comes to mind to a reasonable person should be "ok, why should be ban it?" and similar questions.
geniice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:00 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Zohner gave a list of reasons. Sure the reasons were equaly missleading but they were there.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:59:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And yet they didn't bother checking Wikipedia or any other sources before mindlessly signing something that could hypothetically have big negative effects on society...
geniice ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:10:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wikipedia in 1997? Wikipedia was created in 2000.
What does an angel spreading its wings drawn in black on a yellow background mean?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:12:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah, I missed the title. Still, there were encyclopedias back then, just not in digital form. Or you could ask somebody who's educated.
I don't know. Just googled it, can't seem to find anything about it. What's your point?
geniice ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:22:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't help you since they aren't going to talk about a miss-naming of water
Outside of chemists why would anyone be educated in the IUPAC nomenclature of inorganic chemistry?
That as soon as I shift the terms being used you can't recognise the radiation warning trefoil.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:28:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough.
Not many people, which is exactly why I'd ask a chemist before potentially signing. That's my entire point. Do your research.
If this were somehow an important issue, I probably wouldn't have let a ten-second Google search decide what I should think about it...
geniice ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:44:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How many chemists do you know? Sure I know quite a few because well I tend to run into other chemists. The general population?
Should you open this metal box with the symbol on it? The wrong answer killed three people in the Samut Prakan radiation accident.
Lets face it as soon as I made the question hard to google you gave up on the who research thing.
sourc3original ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:45 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except what you described looks nothing like the radiation symbol.
geniice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:17 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The lowest part is the body the circle is the head and the two other elements are the wings. I'm not the first to make the observation:
https://www.damninteresting.com/this-place-is-not-a-place-of-honor/
HerpDerpDrone ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:16:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just give them a smartphone and 2 minutes to type in google for themselves.
paaaaatrick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously? Look up how many people are pissed about the new way they are teaching math. It's hilarious how angry people get about how teachers are trying to show critical thinking in schools now.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most people aren't smart enough to reason. They need propaganda.
The problem is that smart people know this and so create the most efficient propaganda which is emotionally based. Fear, empathy, terror, hope, nastolgia.
Once you are infected with emotion the first casualty is reason. And of course as we are seeing civil society is the second casualty.
ThatsMyHoverboard ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:32:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That clown nose has some big white tumors.
the_ouskull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right? Hello, r/popping?
bobsbountifulburgers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why at the Ministry of Greater Morale we use Good Facts instead of True Facts.
wreckingcanon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I skimmed it and thought at first it said carbon Monoxide lol
Jon_Hanson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always wondered if "dihydrogen monoxide" would be the true chemical name. I'm not a chemist so I don't know the molecule naming rules but it doesn't seem correct. For example hydrogen peroxide is H2O2 (can't do subscript in the markdown) and isn't called dihydrogen dioxide. I guess following those rules water would be called hydrogen oxide.
locks_are_paranoid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It could still be called Hydrogen Oxide though.
kyew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No idea why they went with this one, but hydrogen peroxide is named after the anionic peroxide group: H-O-O-
Demagayyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Fair enough.
????
EDIT: I looked it up and apparently there is no "scientific name". It's officially just "water".
Jon_Hanson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone else replied that the IUPAC name for water is oxidane.
geniice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The chemical name is water.
The logical things to look at if you did want a systematic name are what we call the things down the periodic table. H2S is Hydrogen Sulfide, H2Se is Hydrogen Selenide (and unreasonably toxic) and H2Te is Hydrogen Telluride.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a chemistry grad student. Water has just been "water" for a very long time. I'm not sure what it would be called. Hydrogen hydroxide maybe? There really is no good way to name it chemically.
Jon_Hanson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oxidane, apparently.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:36 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently you're right. "Ane" makes me think of an alkane, like hexane or octane.
TAW1892 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Peroxide is just a functional group of an oxygen bonded to another oxygen. Dinitrogen monoxide is technically correct, but the IUPAC name for water is Oxidane.
bafflesaurus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just goes to show how dumbed down the general population is. I'm miserable at chemistry and even I understand that dihydrogenmonoxide means two parts hydrogen one part oxygen, in other words H2O.
On another note, why do I feel like watching Baywatch all of the sudden?
IShouldNotTalk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dihydrogen monoxide dissolves more substances than any other liquid, promotes corrosion and is used as a combustion inhibitor in many industrial, commercial and residential applications.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see what you did there.
sips water
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makes you wonder about the climate change alarmists.
kawklee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:47:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
My dad told me this story when I was a kid. I got DiHydrogen Monoxide banned at a big Model UN conference.
Pinnacle of my nerd life achievements
thesneakymouse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:49:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My high school science teacher tried to pull this one on us. That was the day I found out I was surrounded by morons.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dihydrogen Monoxide contributes to 100% of ships sinking.
Gasaraki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good job for him. Dihydrogen Monoxide is a danger to the public.
anthonywg420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's deadly
WEEGEETIME ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of when this guy went to a prestigious woman's University and asked them all to sign a petition to end woman's suffrage.
bolanrox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So Penn and Teller ripped him off?
MinistryOfSpeling ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My opponent is an avowed homosapien, and his sister is a practicing thespian.
vohnjogel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:05:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in a mock legislature program for high schoolers, and I wrote a bill banning dihydrogen monoxide last year. It passed through committee unanimously, but failed in the House by only three votes. Pretty good, considering these were people who were all there to research and make informed decisions on government.
sittingbowl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is literally Reddit on nearly any issue...
the_literal_police ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HANDS IN THE AIR, SITTINGBOWL. you're goin' downtown.
ManBitesGod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The image looks like a graphic of booty in a red swimsuit.
malabella ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember another high schooler getting their classmates to sign a sneaky petition like this. It almost turned out really bad.
AnonForEverthing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love this. I am goimg to use this.
liquidpig ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is kind of like getting people to sign an "End Women's Suffrage!" petition.
Auto_Text ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:19:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or it proves that people were nice to him and would have signed anything he asked them to because it's just a science fair.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why petitions are stupid
Yglorba ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of this Simpsons quote.
(I always thought that quote was a lot smarter than people give it credit for; it's incredibly easy to mislead people using accurate facts if you present them in an unbalanced or biased manner. For instance, almost anyone will look like a monster if you list only the most terrible things about them, or a saint if you only list the best.)
locotxwork ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So he proved that facts can be used for bad
RevWaldo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And if people can fall for "dihydrogen monoxide" being bad, they'll fall for "global warming" too!
Petrochemicals 1! Envirofascists 0! WE WIN!!
openstring ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reports say he was also locked up in a locker for being a smart ass.
gochuBANG ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of the examples of guys making a fake petition to end women's suffrage. Enough women in these vids signing it without a clue.
Makes me wish we encouraged folks to acknowledge when they don't know something and ask.
oldcreaker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heard something similar recently - a poll whether or not DNA should be allowed in the food we eat. The results was a resounding "no".
xyz66 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:11:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did a persuasive speech on Dihydrogen Monoxide in college. Got all of the class to agree, and the teacher later pulled me aside and asked me how I found out about it, that she'd never even heard of it.
Since we had to cite sources, I cited the CDC's page for drowning and it's statistics. I also made up stuff, like saying that it's used in pools to maintain chemical balance and an additive in most soft drinks.
Chris1104 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You weren't and aren't wrong lol. Just a bit dishonest.
LawyerLou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He has since moved on to banning fracking, GMO food and vaccines.
lubyaGdubya ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So many people remembering stories from the Wiki post, iirc
xXBlaze52 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have milked this for my entire educational career. Got 3rd place in my grade 6 speech competition talking about this, and did a University level presentation on it as well. Thanks Nathan.
Openworldgamer47 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heh. Turns out 98% of his school was stupid.
imnosmartguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:36:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what a pro !
UtCanisACorio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never liked the moniker "Dihydrogen Monoxide". In other molecules, the H2 is referred without the prefix, like Hydrogen Sulfate (H2SO4), etc etc. Putting the "Di" prefix just sounds dumb.
bobbygarafolo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah the old non sequitor. %100 of people who consumed Dihydrogen Monoxide end up dead. This then that though true have no direct correlation. People are truly DUMB.
NovelTeaDickJoke ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Now imagine this very same thing applied on a much, much greater scale with literally anything. Your average human being would be very easily fooled by more sophisticated attempts at this. It is scary to think that you often can't really trust anything you yourself haven't validated in your own experience, whether that be through scientific experimentation or otherwise. I remember when I learned the scientific method in school. There was a very heavy emphasis on the fact that authority means nothing whatsoever when it comes to science. Peer review is great, assuming the scientific method is correctly being used, however as a scientist, by trusting someone else instead of repeating an experiment yourself, you willfully submit to the power of authority, over your own faculties. I fear in today's society there is often a severely misplaced trust in authority, and the consequences can not be overstated.
aapl942 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody has ever used that complex nomenclature for water, "oxidane" is all I've seen besides water. I've seen these jokes float around Facebook far too often...
tminus7700 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:00:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is very similar to a hoax I was told about in the 1960's. In Fairbanks, Alaska. A radio DJ told everybody to go outside and look at the windshields of their cars. He told them to note the small pits on the glass. (Caused by simple rocks and sands hit the glass.)
But then he went on and said they were caused by flying saucer exhaust. It provoked a minor panic in the city and the police department lines were flooded with calls about them doing something to stop this pollution.
rigel2112 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This right here is why people are against GMO labeling.
Staatssicherheit_DDR ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
97% of scientists agree
Freaky713 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fact that this took place in Idaho doesn't help either. I don't remember how low we are on the education spectrum, but this really shows how poorly educated people are in this state.
Chris1391 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am I wrong for seeing a butt in a bathing suit in the picture?
murdill36 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:35:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
everyone that injests dihydrogen monoxide dies
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In 2006 I got my high school chemistry teacher to sign it. He wasn't thrilled when I made fun of him later.
drNovikov ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His classmates grew up and became social justice warriors.
avocadonow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me think about Britain's EU membership referendum.
Mandaface ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever I see these amazing science fair projects from kids all I hear is his parents had a better idea than the other parents.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who else is seeing the big butt in the thumbnail?
Skullkrid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:31:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dihydrogen Monoxide looks like someone wearing a swimsuit with their ass showing.
SasparillaTango ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:41:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All I see from that molecule diagram is an ass in a unitard with the cheeks pokin out.
dingar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:45:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hehe, the thumbnail kinda looks like a grey butt in a bikini
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:49:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oxygen is a bathing suit bottom and the hydrogen is two cheeks, I can't see it any other way.
supermandeathstar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That image is a butt.
Tango_Whiskeyman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:16 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've just described r/science in a nutshell.
Pedracer1984 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:02:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does anyone else see an ass in a swimsuit in this picture?
Spokker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:07:53 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see an amputee.
CaptOblivious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:30 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The bad news is that people haven't gotten any smarter about whom and what to believe.
SoulofOsiris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:07:22 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why it is so important not to just look at a headline and form an opinion. Not just read an article or 2 and form an opinion. Critical thinking, personal research and a well informed stance is important when forming an opinion. If you cannot do this then it is best to have no opinion at all
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:08:23 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A great story and a beautiful illustration of how effective spin can be
Zazmuth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:14:32 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone notice the molecule looks like an ass in a bikini bottom?
PresentBoat997 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
EVERYONE ELSE DID.
Noonecanfindmenow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:15:28 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think this is also very much a testament to the poor quality of education in his school. Maybe the curriculum is different, but at 14 in Canada you should be able to recognize chemical names. I would've expected 25-30 people, but 43 is in my (completely personal and anecdotal) opinion way too high.
corntub ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:22 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that icon looks like a thong on a gray ass
theplanetandy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:43:45 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please allow me to google this for you'all.
http://www.dhmo.org/
BasedAssadOfSyria ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
> dat thumbnail
he thicc
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:25 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have some fucking sharam and get a life. Must be half past 6am in India...fucking loafer.
Punchabearinnamouf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:37:23 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just read this to my parents without explaining what DHMO is. Both were disappointed that this kind of thing is unregulated, mom was ready to ban it.
Nosam88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:11 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God damn rights, band wagon faggots. This proves that people are getting genuinely stupider by the decade.
Redbeard440_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:08 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More stupid?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:20 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
is it me or do other ppl see a nice booty too?
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:23 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would say about 60-70% of unnoticed comments.
It's so intriguing to me that I almost want to take a screenshot of all of the comments and compile them together. Most people will preface it with "Is it just me", "Am I the only one", or "this might sound weird but".
burnerthrown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:47 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That molecule is so sexy, and wet.
tenmillionbucks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:18 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That picture looks like underwear riding up an ass.
Buck_Thorn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:58:04 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why does this thread have a picture of a butt in red bikini underwear?
https://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/GOQ5PBdkKVwKwz-VRDRofbvuB3qVmw36LqensM0EmOU.jpg
EFCgaming ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:29 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And too think, if the one person who knew it was water was to have told everyone the truth then this may very well not have worked and my day on the 23/06/2016 would of been slightly less enjoyable.
itWasForetold ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:59 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And for his thesis project... reddit.
TakingTen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:26:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water? Like from the toilet?
LordPlum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:43 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
satinboy90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:11:40 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
anyone else notice the preview image looks like a butt in red panties? man I love science
Goofysoccer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:33:48 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We did the same thing in our school but with a petition to "end women's suffrage," and people assumed "suffrage" had something to do with suffering. Two teachers even signed it :D
MusicGamingMore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:09:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Website that warns about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide
toeofcamell ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:23:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he tricked a bunch of 14 year olds for his own enjoyment? He's like the Michael Jackson of the Science Fair
thoughtofitrightnow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:30:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1 hour in and already on the front page? Damn reddit likes their conspiracies.
MWisBest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Or bot upvotes. Not only is it front page, it's #1.
Edit: Ummmm yeah. A thousand more upvotes in just a few minutes despite the post being hidden now.
Page_Won ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:53:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did You Know That: 100% of people who drink water...die?
papa_bling ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:58:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really?!
Trogdor_a_Burninator ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looking at you Gฬถlฬถoฬถbฬถaฬถlฬถ ฬถCฬถoฬถoฬถlฬถiฬถnฬถgฬถ er, Gฬถlฬถoฬถbฬถaฬถlฬถ ฬถWฬถaฬถrฬถmฬถiฬถnฬถgฬถ er, Climate Change.
TRAarctic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's sad that the public has been fooled to think CO2 is something dangerous and dirty. It's necessary for life on earth. Goes to show how correct this 14 year old is in his experiment.
getfuckingreal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:31:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
GMOs
Fracking
Vaccines
Gluten
Nuclear Power
etc.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:57:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That ass though...
itstrueimwhite ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:30:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My senior year, I was able to get the vast majority of the girls in my graduating class to sign a petition looking to ban women's suffrage. My "true facts" were that it was a despicable practice, segregated 50% of our population, and has been a burden to our economic class structure.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:34:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you explain this one, because that seems to just be a lie to me.
Rex_Romulus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:23:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"The best case against democracy is a conversation with the averge voter." - Winston Churchill
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:19:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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HectorCruzSuarez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This title is made by a karma whoring expert.
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:20:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks :)
lagspike ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well no kidding.
how do you think hillary clinton got the democratic nomination? except instead of facts, she deletes references to them and pretends they arent true.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
have i been watching too much porn or does this look like a woman wearing a red bikini http://i.imgur.com/13rw7Zs.png
Clap4boobies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:06:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clicked on this thinking the thumbnail was about chunky girls in bikinis
Loostrum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The diagram looks like a butt.
shame_to_waste_it ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to what other kind of facts?
joesatmoes ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:02:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, a fact is just a statement that can be proven true or false. Like, yeah 2+1=4 is not true, but it isn't an opinion- it's just an untrue fact
GoredonTheDestroyer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or two plus two makes five.
hadapurpura ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL the water molecule looks like a butt in a thong
thr33beggars ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:30:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Should have upheld the ban they voted on as punishment.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:20:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All facts are true by definition.
NilacTheGrim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:25 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that a fact?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:38 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True.
HugePurpleNipples ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does it look like a fat chick's ass in a red bikini to anyone else?
Sorry, I'll see myself out.
NilacTheGrim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:49 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit. Now I can't unsee that. I actually find that ass kinda sexy..
HugePurpleNipples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:17 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothin wrong with a big girl, homie. You might have just learned something about yourself tonight.
icepick314 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but there isn't an official chemical name for water so at least give SOME benefit of doubt for the masses....
nighserenity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting study at that age. I can't imagine this would work today due to the ease of access to information and people's incredible determination to spoil things (especially younger people).
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:42:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True. Also the fact that people have been pulling the dihydrogen monoxide trick for years at this point
LaughingVergil ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:45:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've had eight to ten people fall for the DHMO scare so far this year. Ignorance is far more pervasive than most people believe. Source: personal experience and Flat Earth videos on YouTube.
twistmental ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah, but try the trick saying H2O. it simply won't work. Of course tons of people don't know the scientific name. Why would they? The only purpose it serves is to avoid being tricked by pranksters.
I'm a professional driver, I could do the same thing by sitting random people in a big rig and telling them to drive it forward 10 feet. The vast majority simply would not be able to, even though, to me, it's so easy a monkey can do it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Saying H-twenty should work some of the time. I'm being pedantic, but why do so many people write H2O as H20?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:29:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The point is that people will attempt to affect policy with completely uninformed opinions on things. The experiment is a terrifying example of how policy is really decided. I'm surprised a 14 year old did this, the kid was very intelligent.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:50:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha true, we are in our own little bubble of "tuned in" people here, we just assume that people know things when in reality the average knowledge is likely much lower across all demographics
MasterChef901 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:22:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makes me wonder what obvious things we're missing here.
geniice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well to start with it isn't the chemical name for water (the chemical name for water is "water").
Almostana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:17:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'd think that having smartphones and the ability to research anything at the drop of a hat, people would be smart enough to do so. But it's really surprising how dumb people are. My niece is 15 and instead of fact checking, she falls for everything. There's entire schools full of kids like this, because they're being taught to follow a strict curriculum and not question what they're "learning". Also most don't pay attention in class.
THANKS-FOR-THE-GOLD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's intentional. Critical thinking skills are not neccesary for compliance to the rules.
It's about controlling the masses
Feroshnikop ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:55:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Happened 2 years ago in Florida. On April fools day and people still didn't figure it out.
People were so mad about it they nearly brought actual felony charges against the hosts. Never underestimate the sheer stupidity of people.
GlyphGryph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A simple name change to Hydroxic Acid or whatever and you're good to, and even Dihydrogen Monoxide is still pretty easy to catch people with. People are very easy to scare with scary sounding words, and many will actually get mad at you (and not the person who fooled them) if you try to point it out... getting a friend to scare someone with this and then try to argue them out of it yourself (without breaking the spell by giving the chemical another name), it's hilariously frustrating.
TM3-PO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree.
Source: Donald Trump
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol. Good one.
fgsgeneg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm surprised he didn't try to dehydrate it.
melon_master ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I use a PC
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Boy, the CIA & NSA really took off with that one
DrReynaldoBojangles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Molecule got a sweet bubble ass
blametheforenguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"True" facts
Demagayyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I remember jokes like this in middle school. Pretty sure his classmates were in on it.
HugePurpleNipples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Our media and political establishment are based on this kind of gullibility.
ThugDaddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
water is a butt
skadse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Later known as the American "democracy" effect.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Xenodia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But you can call it Dihydrogenmonoxid, just they avoid the mono since every one, who knows basic chemistry stuff, knows what it is.
anoelr1963 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is great, although the snopes link has more information as to how Nathan Zohner hilariously succeeded in accomplishing this. It is a good read.
"...this example does aptly demonstrate the kind of fallacious reasoning that's thrust at us every day under the guise of "important information": how with a little effort, even the most innocuous of substances can be made to sound like a dangerous threat to human life."
topredditbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Pyehouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL water molecules look like a girls butt in a bikini.
felixar90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True facts? Implying there are facts that are not true?
rayray2kbdp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone else think it looked like a bikini butt?
BackSeatGremlin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's "dihydrogen oxide." >:O We don't use the "mono" prefix in the naming of compounds, such as "sodium chloride," not "monosodium monochloride."
lipring69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dihydrogen monoxide is necessary because dihydrogen dioxide also exists (aka Hydrogen Peroxide). You don't need the prefixes in sodium chloride since no other combinations exists. Same reason its magnesium chloride, not magnesium dichloride (MgCl2). But mono is needed if other forms exist, hence carbon dioxide/ carbon monoxide
BackSeatGremlin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:09 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just now remembering that the elements of water also form several more compounds, and I feel like a dummy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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BackSeatGremlin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:29 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know, lipring69 reminded me of a very important obvious rule I had missed in oversight. hydrogen and oxygen alone make a bunch of stuff, and that is where mono applies. I feel pretty dumb.
Fearofdead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is hilariously sad. At first you think "Ha! Bunch of high school kids don't know that its water!" and then you remember that they are only a few years away from voting and being considered adults.
talkaboutitlater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All I see is a red thong on a para-amputee.
the-talking-goat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember what it was from, maybe The Man Show, but my fave is when they went around asking women if they would like to end woman's suffrage.
9inety9ine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to... false... facts?
Addie_Goodvibes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rockwell Turbo Encabulator
raq0916 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle did this to me....
Sloi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kid must've been popular after basically proving his dumb classmates would fall for anything if presented "intelligently enough" ...
Addie_Goodvibes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Retroencabulator
Spookytoof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I love Reddit. I enjoy reading these facts I never knew about before.
RadBadTad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I mostly don't trust things anymore. Unless I know a lot about a topic, I know some clickbait article, or even any article less than about 10 pages long, that I can readily understand as a laymen, is only giving me like 1/3rd of the facts, and so my conclusions can be very easily led to the wrong place.
I feel like it's happening a LOT right now in politics. The whole "Women make 78 cents to every dollar that a man makes" statement is a good example. They don't tell you that it's across all fields, and that more women are choosing to work lower paying jobs, you're just supposed to assume that a guy at McDonalds is making more than the girl standing next to him.
adviceKiwi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A politician in NZ famously fell for thus too
2mice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he banned pokeballs?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao my chem teacher pulled that on us in the beginning of the year ๐
70% of the class basically wanted to ban water
that_guy_next_to_you ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That thumbnail looks like a red speedo
Jin-roh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do hope that people remember this 14 year old's experiments when reading tweets that quote statistics, especially from those who insist that "they're only interested in the facts"
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TUVegeto137 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of relevant with all the Brexit debates.
tripcy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Beware of H2O!
NSFW_ASYLUM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thumbnail look like a girl lifting her right leg up and twerking her ass
Oafah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Hydric Acid" rolls off the tongue better.
Galbalin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hydrogen Hydroxide man!
thatwhichdangles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
. ..1. * * I *
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome.
shindigweb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dihydrogen Monoxide is a huge threat and we should immediately fight against it
Astrobomb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really understand this. Could someone explain it?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a term for this? Like is it a specific kind of logical fallacy, or rhetorical structure, or something?
MickiFreeIsNotAGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How? Did he lie?
How did he convince them dihydrogen monoxide was bad?
I understand it's water, but if someone started spouting off to me about how bad some chemical is, I might believe them.
I don't think anyone who actually voted "yes" really cared about what he was saying, or he lied to them.
starwolf256 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen this done a few times. It's not lying, it's presenting the truth in a misleading way, building off the gut reaction that chemicals are scary, especially as many people instinctively link it with carbon monoxide.
"Inhaling dihydrogen monoxide causes choking and death!"
"Long-term exposure to dihydrogen monoxide is fatal!"
"Dihydrogen monoxide is a major component in nuclear reactors!"
"Studies have found dihydrogen monoxide in our lakes and rivers!"
OmegaX123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He used misleading yet still true language (it can kill you if you inhale it', that kind of thing), I assume.
DrFriedGold ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you inhale it, you can die. If you drink to much of it, you can die. It melts witches and causes gremlins to multiply. BAN IT NOW!
baconnmeggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This kid was an OG troll
davidthefat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait up sheeple! It's been shown that there's a 100% mortality rate for anyone that came into contact with dihydrogen monoxide!
docwyoming ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He now works as a conservative radio host.
Feignfame ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The word gullible is not in the dictionary.
mcrib ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So he stole someone else's ideas and won first place. Too bad he didn't just make a diorama of Star Wars figures.
Nastapoka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The boy's name ? Albert Einstein
JerryTrees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You just learned about this? Did you learn what a computer was this morning?
colorvarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same people who will be:
Anti-vaccers Against GMOs Gluten free non-celiacs
krismonger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bet he was popular
PrivateCharter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, dihydrogen monoxide is some dangerous shit in large enough concentrations. It killed over half of the people on the Titanic when it got inside. And if it gets inside the walls of your house you can wind up having to tear it down.
MontanaSD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That pic looks like the Kim K butt emoji.
AggressiveOsmosis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol! I'm reading this going "wait...Dihydrogen Monoxide....Isn't that 2 hydrogen, one oxygen? Water?" and then happily found I had passed a test I didn't know I was taking.
powderedtoastface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use the MSDS from the hoax site every time I teach research skills with my 8th graders. It never gets old. They get super worked up. It's awesome
eits1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How many people drown every year? BAN WATER! Better yet, make suffocating illegal, should solve it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How can it not be totally obvious Dihydrogen Monoxide is water? I mean, everyone knows H2O right? Everyone knows it means two hydrogen and one oxygen right? Everyone knows Dihydrogen means two hydrogen, and monoxide is one oxygen right? Oh thats right, they don't for some reason, lol.
balorina ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
American students are taught via repetition not through knowledge of the subject
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm as an American. I guess I asked questions in science class, is that not something that is done anymore?
bathroomstalin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say
Psychology is worthless.
STEMTARD MASTERRACE!
s00perguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These are True Facts about Dihydrogen Monoxide...
foreverovo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dhmo.org
IsilZha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's funny is I originally found that site the year he did it while i was still in HS myself. I would go around quoting that site to mess with people.
ImmoKnight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now take this to the next level and you understand why politics is so discouraging.
Ignorant people + Biased Media = Ignorant masses.
Yet we as people refuse to actually question the things told to us.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And we get called conspiracy theorists for considering that maybe Big Brother Government doesn't have your best interests at heart.
monetclaude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That thumbnail reminds me of this
Raven1586 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On a small side note, everyone who has drank or come into contact with dihydrogen monoxide have either died or are dying.
anthonywg420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water
azur08 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a fantastic social commentary
KanyesDick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My chemistry teacher loved to tell this story after he himself tried to fool us.
spacemanscottieh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
13-year-old Spacemanscott did this for my 8th grade science fair project in 1998 and nobody gave me much more than a sideways glance. I got 28-30 kids to sign the petition... The guy who was designed rooftop rain water diverters into cisterns for toilet flushing water was lauded all the awards. Which begs the question, why isn't that more common.
Rosisa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First i say for his science fair project,,An analysis of the environments around a sample of 28 3CR radio galaxies with redshifts
http://megatech.space/index.php/2016/06/03/are-mba-programs-online-beneficial-for-women/
jacksack14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
gosh all mighty!
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ilikeyou.
Pardomatas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dat ass tho
EuroBronco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
This is exactly what is happening now with climate change
ianuilliam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wat
fearmypoot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, when was the last time that you think a senior Florida resident took a chemistry class? This bothers the fuck out of me, but I can see why it was so easily accepted and spread in the state of Florida of all places.
brandywine42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At the time of posting, the next headline after this on the front page was
Kinda makes you think
FoodMentalAlchemist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This one is a classic for every chem student from that day on. Surely some people pulled this trick in the past, but the kid perfected it. Still works like one of the best counter argument against people that are afraid of chemicals with "names too long to pronounce, so that means it's bad"
bolanrox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
plsrekt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i see a butt
Super_Natant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ironic.
http://imgur.com/hPYgWZU
dralcax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/g3QYeSh.gif
ackthbbft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always preferred "hydrogen hydroxide" as I think it better represents the molecular structure, since "dihydrogen monoxide" tends to imply the two hydrogen atoms are bonded to each other and then to the oxygen atom.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Today, Nathan Zohner is a major reddit stockholder.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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diabetus_newbie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Penn and Teller did it with adults. Granted they were leftie adults
prettylittledr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
slow clap
laughinman7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those 43 classmates happen to be voting for Drumpf this year
blooberbutt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That molecule looks like a bikini booty shot.
make-shift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bet that those 7 classmates who came to the correct conclusions are feeling pretty smug right now.
AnonForEverthing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is he a shrink now?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This happens on reddit daily. See the front page.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The takeaway here really is that parents should let their kids do their own science projects.
Silvertongued99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That thumbnail looks like a booty.
thiscouldbemassive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Facts without proper context or critical thinking are meaningless. You can cherry pick or massage facts to fit almost any narrative. I just wish people who talk about politics would figure that out.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And then he proceeded to get his ass beat by all his classmates.
larrythefatcat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bet they'd drink Hydroxic Acid and not even know it!
PookaProtector ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's a good one, and I'd never heard that term before, although I did know that water is amphoteric
1sagas1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"14 year olds are gullible"
Seriously, this is a TIL?
ImNotPunnyEnough ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also did this as a psychology experiment in High School. The best part was I got people on tape talking about why they support the ban.
zuilserip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now if we could just work to ban food with high levels of DNA....
AlekRivard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know it's H2O, but the picture also looks like a woman wearing a one piece swimming suit bending over.
...
I need to get laid
DeeDeeInDC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the thumbnail was a giant ass.
klousGT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
true facts as opposed to all those false facts.
LX_Theo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now he leads the Trump campaign. :P
RoarSchlarg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thought this was a lifeguard's butt.
FoolZerrand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water??? Water is ammunition for squirt guns! I'm surprise that the Zero Tolerance weapons policy didn't get this kid suspended.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We must protect our bottley fluids!
Daohaus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for this!
Iconic_91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seems an appropriate top of FP with the U.K. referendum happening tomorrow...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to 'false facts'.
determinedtoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His dad probably worked for the INEEL site
TrollJack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like politics.
agangofoldwomen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The facts are technically correct, the best kind of correct.
basiltoe345 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tis a pity the Cane Sugar Lobbyists used the very same tactics to manipulate "naturalists," mush-head mommies and probiotic parents that "High Fructose Corn Syrup" is akin to child abuse.
"Real sugar" and "HFCS" are biologically seen as the same by the body when ingested as calories!!
spikeyrevolver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dem hydrogens though! ;)
IanGecko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water is natural and easy to pronounce! Drink all of it! Never stop!
X0AN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly wouldn't work in the digital age.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And is 2013 not the digital age? Because this was tried in 2013. And it worked.
PaleosaurusRex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makes me happy that this was in Idaho
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/upvotedbecauseboobs NSFW
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reading things like this gives me a headache. A girl I know did this same thing except she was the one telling me about it. She said "Did you hear they have dihydrogen monoxide in subway bread?" I pieces the word together and told her the usual "haha I get it" fake laugh. She looked at me and said "What do you mean? Get what?" That's when I realized she legitimately thought it was a toxic chemical. Made me die a little bit inside.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It must be banned.
Tank_Cheetah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Basically every source based reddit argument ever
This_needs_more_love ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/KSVpHtm.png
TrikkyMakk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MMW someone will want an AMA
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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No_Morals ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:01:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty common knowledge. You don't have to go any further than the wiki on cannabis to learn about that.
diamondpenguin22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kek
EngagementBacon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The American way.
tan1001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hi there. Have u and farm truck and the 405 guys ever thought of coming to south africa on tour. We r huge followers of the show. . Wud be awesome to c and talk to u guys in person
v-digit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That thumbnail looks like its a really nice booty.
doctorsnorky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have always wondered why it isn't called Hydrogen Hydroxide. That's a nicer name.
Protocal_NGate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't penn and teller do something similar on bullsh*t?
esahc161 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course it happened it Florida, old people can't google anything.
Capybarattlesnake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thumbnail looks like butt.
Mister_Red_Bird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the first things my biology teacher had us do was read a case study/article on Dihydrogen Monoxide. The article was talking about how many people it killed a year and how harmful it can be. I don't think any of us realized before she told us that it was water
ViciousPuddin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sexy red thong thumbnail
ViktorBoskovic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Id bang dyhydrogen monoxide
Theoldbraciole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, water got a fire booty http://i.imgur.com/qzG7H6u.jpg
supermelon928 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every 54 hours, someone gets tricked with a scary survey about dihydrogen monoxide.
TheOneManDankMaymay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
learn how to avoid that with this simple trick.
Byste ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried to give a similar presentation to my 5th grade class when my father told me about DHMO. They didn't even pay attention during the "harmful" facts about DHMO and laughed at me during the reveal that DHMO is just water like "well what are you even doing". One of those soul crushing childhood moments.
stealth57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:48 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but that never happens now. Yay 2016!
Zepest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cannot like this post more
Soonergriff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looking at you, people who believe in Anthropogenic Climate Change.
Heylookaguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have on no less than 6 occasions tricked fellow redditors about the dangers of water.
westcoastsurf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A class size comprised of 50 students per teacher would explain the failing results. Was 'classmates' mistakenly used instead of peers?
al0ale0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ELI5 plz...
Bronystrongwing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He got people to blindly ban water based solely on it's chemical name.
al0ale0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:25 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you!!
NiceFormBro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You swallow a few spiders and a bag of sand throughout your lifetime.
This is also bullshit and a result of a similar experiment
fetzu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Classic Nathan!
MicheBee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a website dedicated to this sort of thing.
Zchavago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of like all those chemicals that cause cancer, but only in California.
TaintedSpuds8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's that smog.
SorrowAndDespair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg I know his brother
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should get him to do an AMA! I keep getting comments saying "AMA request!".
Shalashashka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You just know this was his parents idea though...
clycoman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of a bit from the show Parks and Recreation. The Parks Department wants to add flouride to the town's drinking water, which is something that most modern cities already do help with dental health. One of the councilmen is a dentist and is opposing this so he can get more business from people with cavities/bad teeth.
Dentist's protest ("Fluoride is a CHEMICAL!")
How the Parks Department convinces people that fluoride is good for them by dumbing down the benefits to the lowest common denominator: ("fluoride is not a chemical, its a water based social media oral experience" #TDAZZLE)
alderthorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Penn and Tellers bullshit did an episode where the did this very thing at some environmentalist gathering. It was funny.
ColoursArentReal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did the same petition in HS, got a teacher to stand up and ask the whole class to sign "this very important petition."
jan_coo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"In 2006, in Louisville, Kentucky, David Karem, executive director of the Waterfront Development Corporation, a public body that operates Waterfront Park, wished to deter bathers from using a large public fountain. "Counting on a lack of understanding about water's chemical makeup", he arranged for signs reading: "DANGER! โ WATER CONTAINS HIGH LEVELS OF HYDROGEN โ KEEP OUT" to be posted on the fountain at public expense."
Sound like Ron Swanson to me.
fuckCARalarms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My guess is that when the listeners who complained found out that was was just water, they felt a little stupid and doubled down instead of laughing about it.
DatAssociate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thumbnail looks like a butt.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its Gutsman's ass
DankoJones84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% of people who've died in recorded history have consumed dihydrogen monoxide during their lifetime. It's a fact.
TrollDude1457 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My teacher was able to convince my class that water was crazy addictive and super deadly. We freaked when he pulled a box of the shit out of his closet and drank it. My friend called an ambulance....
noerrorsfound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A box of water? Now that's an interesting container for liquid!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never got this. How is a kid with no or extremely little knowledge of chemistry supposed to know that di hydrogen monoxide stands for H2O. For an adult, it is unacceptable, but I don't know if a kid should know that without training.
TaintedSpuds8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The purpose was pretty much exactly that. It was that people voted on an issue without fully understanding it, possibly without even being aware they didn't fully understand it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
we're supposed to be impressed by 1st prize at a science fair?
ShirtForThat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Show your support for the movement! https://eternal-weekend.com/products/whats-in-your-tap
ArtSchnurple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been hearing variations of this since the mid-80s at least. Teenagers love the old "everyone but me is stupid" play.
fuckCARalarms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Friends of DHMO"
http://www.armory.com/~crisper/DHMO/
jekutta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Donald Trump wants to replicate Nathan's results on Muslims.
ExplosiveWatermelon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to false facts?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That boy's name... John Oliver
WAMSCast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water we waiting for - BAN IT NOW!
giveitago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:15 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
H2O looks like a big butt in a thong.
TaintedSpuds8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice hydrogens. When do they increase their dihedral angle?
zerocolt45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very off topic but if you tilt your head to the left the image looks like a girl with a fat ass in a bathing suit.
metaphysintellect ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And he is from Idaho! Represent!
HCrikki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fact are clear: driver licences are the leading cause of road deaths.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In High School I was able to get my class behind the use of Agent Orange. I played the head of Dow Chemical and was told to make it convincing that it was completely safe. Using the words of the original president at that time for my class, I got everyone behind it and the war effort pro-USA. It was a scary moment because I realized i was the only student in my history class that was taught about it at home. Thank God for NOVA.
jeffseadot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He tricked children
That's not exactly hard
BMGPmusicisbad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a 14 year old may be a child in the realm of life experience and accumulated knowledge, but they are sharp as hell, probably sharper than even a 20 year old.
TonyzTone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, yes, much like women's suffrage and it's devastating effects!
Did you know, that as a direct result of women's suffrage, the power of individual voters at the voting booth has been diminished? Would it scare you to know that ever since the beginning of women's suffrage, women have directly chosen to go war? Women's suffrage has directly affected the amount of taxes that taken out of your paycheck.
End women's suffrage today!
NOTE: It's a similar case where people don't understand the vocabulary and just go by the connotations in their own minds regarding what the person says.
AOEUD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Calling water "dihydrogen monoxide" may look like telling the "technical" truth, but that phrase is almost never used except to confuse people.
The scientific name for water is "water".
Searching "dihydrogen monoxide" on Google Scholar you get only 475 results - the first two are using the word to mislead.
Speak gibberish and you get misunderstood. First prize.
redditmortis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a redditor.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From what I understand he convinced 100% off the governing body in California.
daemare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh we did this in my 8th grade class back in 2008. I was the only one of 33 students to know what "Dihydrogen Monoxide" really was.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
um are you sure Dihydrogen Monoxide isn't real? ... this website proves otherwise
SLOW_PHALLUS_SLAPPER ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just saw Penn and Teller do this on the old Showtime show. Although that was probably worse because the people they were asking were "environmentalists," not students.
burbankie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does this mean that ignorance is inherent?
agenturensohn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's one sexy hydrogen ass
Fantasy_masterMC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Story of every politician ever
lookingforthatlegend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That mans name? Albert Einstein.
TimIsColdInMaine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Help end women's suffrage!
Atlasium_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How much you want to bet it was his parents idea?
socsa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, among 14 year olds at least. And even then, a full 15% figured it out.
bcbudvansticky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
either I'm high or thumbnail pic looks like a booty with red high waisted panties on...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite gotcha was the petition against the "terrible suffrage of women."
But still - this kid is likely in /r/iamverysmart territory now.
Second top post, currently - http://imgur.com/QDgg8S0
Josef_Joris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seems like allot of people upvoted this. Turns out this TIL is fake, this never happened. and not once again, the public is ignorant.
Undecapitated ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I made a similar petition for my Naval ROTC in college. It was really surprising to see how many people were supportive of banning something that the Navy would not exist without (what none of us would exist without, really). I pulled the petition out at our end of year Navy Ball and made all the signers drink from the grog. :)
ReallySeriousThought ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I gave a speech on the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide in high school for my persuasive speech. I thought I was so clever back then.
minichado ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
which is why we now just spout false facts and confuse everyone, ignorant or otherwise, equally.
lucidvein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My facebook feed confirms this for me every day.
2hoodrich4me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I already knew that i mean, look at 95% of mainstream news/media and how they can lead the ignorant ass american public.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, as a gas it can cause severe burns. The liquid form causes massive erosion. The solid form has been known to sink ships. All phases of this dangerous chemical should be banned immediately.
Karmais_a_bitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had to read that 3 times until I realized that I still don't understand it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I smell gold incoming for this post.
kelargo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That project had some watered down science.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
80 percent of public wants to ban food with DNA:
http://reason.com/blog/2016/05/24/80-percent-of-americans-want-to-label-fo
I love democracy
apostrophic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well a few enterprising young blokes from my high school (an all-boys school) started a women's rights campaign which was built around a petition and a documentary film. They canvassed the halls of our sister school (all girls) with a factual albeit craftily worded campaign and petition. The petition had a hundred or so signatures after two days.
What were they asking these women to petition against?
The horrible scourge of Women's Suffrage.
true_unbeliever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a brash teenager in the 70's I would request a glass of Dihydrogen Monoxide from the restaurant waitress.
kayonesoft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thumbnail's resemblance is uncanny.
fightersfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Our teacher would give us this paper telling of the 'wonders of (the scientific name for water here)' every summer school and some fell for it everytime. Doesnt surprise me that those same people are the social justice warriors now
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That pic looks like two buttcheeks popping out of a swimsuit
Erectionspecialist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:11 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that water?
MyFaceIsItchy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. That's the idea.
Erectionspecialist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't been in a chem class in 9 years...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:25 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Erectionspecialist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But then you would have never replied... That would have made me sad and you wouldn't have been captain hindsight?
Maraudershields7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a great experiment to conduct, everyone! Now I just need to be able to tell the facts with a straight face...
batholith11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the original article written in 1997, the author attempts to find other "Zohnerisms" throughout America, and one in particular is "One place to start is the collected speeches of Environmental Protection Agency chief Carol Browner, who has used Zohnerisms masterfully to promote expensive, disruptive new standards for particulate matter and global warming - despite evidence from scientists that is, at best, inconclusive."
Funny how the world has changed in almost twenty years. I honestly can't tell if he's joking or not...
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1997-10-28/news/9710280246_1_dihydrogen-monoxide-ban-dihydrogen-dhmo
brendanjeffrey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hilarious
urwashibaloch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This might be the fake report
_atsu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those seven that voted against the ban are the true heroes.
bjacks12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That public's name? Donald Trump
Sundance12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wonder what he's doing now
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How the fuck does this have 10k upvotes.
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What exactly is vote fuzzing?
rchiariello ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can we do a follow up on this guy?
KSDem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm reminded of a relative who, in 5th grade, refused to join her classmates as they paraded around the schoolyard loudly proclaiming themselves to working on behalf of the environment.
They were, she noted, pulling up vines while ignoring the trash as they marched around.
The world is not an easy place for the independent thinker.
nickbuch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it must be nice having scientifically-inclined parents
CuntStabbingFetus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Booty had me like
joesatmoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pls explain
CuntStabbingFetus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Idk I just googled "Viagra Molecule" and thought I'd look like a smart clever nerd redditor and would get upvotes by chemists or some shit.
CarrollFilms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ignorance must be bliss
szlachta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Water, Like out the toilet?" Has it got electrolytes?
Valonis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Somebody got a lot of help from dad on their project
kirbysdownb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's 11 am.
your girl gone.
this dihydrogen monoxide thumbnail pop up in your feed.
wwyd?
I_like_your_reddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He basically ripped it off from a chain email and attached a smug thesis to it. I remember seeing this distributed in science classes in 1995 and 1996.
robbietorpey130 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to hate on the kid but that's not original, my chem teacher back in highschool told us the same thing
peachykeen7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:05 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was also a period where people didn't have easy access to Internet and could have done some basic googling. However, this doesn't fully excuse how ignorant his classmates looked.
FunkyCatJr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A local tire shop was offering to fill your new tires with 78% premium grade Nitrogen...
r2002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When it was discovered that Nathan's dad did the work, Nathan replied "It's the same in real world where hired lobbyists draft the surveys and legislative language for Congress."
plural1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what we teach in rhetoric.
DulyNoted1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of the Bastard Operator from hell short stories.
""TAKE MY ADVICE!" I say "There's only ONE way to fix a dim display, and that's by power surging the drivers"
The words "power surging" and "drivers" have got her. People hear words like that and go into Dummy Mode and do ANYTHING you say. I could tell her to run naked across campus with a powercord rammed up her backside and she'd probably do it... Hmmm..."
ahhh yes BOFH, these stories got me through my time doing Tier 1 internet help desk phone support.
Galaxy_Ranger_Bob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Personally, I'm still in favor of banning Dihydrogen Monoxide. Everyone who has ever come in contact with it has died.
PM_ME__YOUR_PMS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here is a nice site all about the dangers of water
The_Celtic_Chemist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For all you people who aren't chemists and didn't want to open the article (like me), it's water.
Arckangel853 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It just feeds into this culture we have of "ban everything and ask questions later".
Rennox082 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dat ass
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DemonLlama77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The sad thing is that people like Morgan Spurlock, Vani Hari, and David Wolfe make really good livings doing this exact same thing. People aren't always quick to question something that makes them feel like they're accomplishing something.
sicgun_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
anyone else see a nice booty in that molecule?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thumbnail of the h2o molecule looks like a booty in a red bathing suit.
Trekie34 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't need a study to prove that humans are easily persuaded .
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
How terrible that people don't have high level specialized understanding of all fields of knowledge! What's the world coming to!
beernsleep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So this is where the liberals got their tactics from.
EuroBronco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
.
Zinski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read about this while I was in middle school. Then in sophomore year bio, some fuck boi and his friend come in stop the class and ask the same exact questions.
So like 3 seconds in im like, Yeah its just water. and the whole class voted no... he didn't use us in his sample for the fair that year... fuck that kid. He got suspended for selling weed and then expelled for fighting a teacher.
GIMG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone used this in a public speech class I took in high school. She went around asking everyone to sign it. I remember thinking, "Well this makes no sense, but I don't want to embarrass the girl so I'll sign her petition."
rialtor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gatorade is better
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A New Zealander member of parliament tried to ban it too:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/38005/National-MP-falls-victim-to-water-hoax
CrimsonBladez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This site is up... lol
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
olican101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is basically the EU reffurendum in the UK atm. "9/10 economists that have stufied the data say we shouldnt leave? We would lose human rights if we leave? There will be abother recession if we leave? #voteleave"
jongybrungleson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where do I sign petition on Facebook this sounds dangerous to my grand children
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A group of friends and I in high school once got about half of our female classmates to sign a petition to end womens suffrage.... and yes, we actually did do this before the Manshow bit.
W92Baj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My father worked his whole life in the storage, transportation and purification of DHMO industry.
He is dead now. Coincidence?
imaliberal1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this atricle might be the last straw in me coming to reddit how the fuck is this at the top of the front page
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Syystole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shut the fuck up
imaliberal1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no
RichardP2910 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Long term effects of ingesting DHMO includes death (this is short term without ingesting it)
imahik3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A Calif. county did the same thing (voted to ban it)
What you really learned today is eco-wackos will fall for anything, science be damned.
gumgumerson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's a butt
thepatientoffret ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"It was just a prank" - he said
timidforrestcreature ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was his next project to deny global scientific consensus on global warming?
mike413 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now he's head of marketing at Monsanto.
If-if-if-if-if-if-if ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This stunt was pulled with climate change. Only it wasn't a classroom.
OrgasmicBiscuit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My last name is Rohner
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:35 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Is not knowing the principles naming compounds in chemistry really "ignorant"?
bowie747 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TLDR; most people are incapable of critical/intelligent thought and will swallow whatever tripe you give them.
imamydesk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:07 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People are fucking stupid when it comes to science.
What else is new?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Somebody convinced Kelloggs that such a harmful substance like Dihydrogen Monoxide shouldn't be a human right
intothemarsh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People are so easily manipulated.... Think for yourselves, folks!
SQLDave ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:53:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll add: Do some research and while you're doing that research, be PAINFULLY aware of confirmation bias. TRY to find credible info that your particular believe/stance/thought just might be wrong, or based on incorrect information.
Blazed_vegetarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a sexy molecule
Fake_Credentials ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to false facts.
Ryugi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:19 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live near Idaho Falls and asked one of my coworkers about this. Apparently it was on the news.
Andruboine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He made a website too i believe its still up if you Google it
Si-JA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DAT ass tH20
tellamoredo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
okay fine, but what does that have to do with pokeballs?
mrjohnmarston ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That thumbnail should be marked NSFW.
Mronuska ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"True facts"
311TruthMovement ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone else's alarms of "this was 96% mom or dad" going off?
LinguistcalBarracuda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yaaaaa right, bullhsit!!!!! Plus, kids dad clearly helped with this one...
JarJar-PhantomMenace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What a smart kid. I have trouble believing it was all his idea, though.
AnAnonymousFool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like the Dihydrogen Monoxide joke has been so overused that most people know what it means these days. Was probably pretty clever in 1997 though
joey03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does anyone know what the kid grew up to do with his life?
BodySnag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This guy was Reddit before Reddit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nathan Zohner later became a key player for the UK's Remain campaign in the 2016 "Brexit" referendum.
StirlingInfirmary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"true facts" tautology
ValaskaReddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whew... At least I'd been one of the seven.
GameMaster366 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That thumbnail looks like Kylie Jenner from behind
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Funny that there is a ban fracking thread on the front page.
Sarcasmos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't it not proper to call it oxide as its not an ionic bond?
Kipneedsyourgrip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We learned what dihydrogen monoxide was on our first day of chemistry. Did none of this child's teachers ever pass college, or are liberal arts majors really this susceptible to further stupidity aside from their horrendous life choices to be public school teachers?
NKHdad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard the soil in my area is contaminated with Midi-chlorians
MumrikDK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Surely they'd have had chemistry by 14?
You'd hope more than 14% saw what he was doing there.
Darth_insomniac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably could get 49 of the 50 classmates now.
sgst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This, along with the EU referendum here in the UK, is proof that the general population are fucking stupid. Or at least uneducated.
Haunt3dCity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What I'm most excited about is there is someone else out there who shares my last name. I've never met someone outside of immediately family with our last name. And I'm the only person left in my family bearing that name.
needssleep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf, I did the same experiment going door to door and got a town of adults to sign a petition banning the same thing the same YEAR and didn't even place in my science fair. :(
CallRespiratory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I only drink the thirst mutilator, Brawndo.
Nythious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That booty in the link though
RandomExcess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am not sure what anyone is confused by this terminology, I always hear it called dihydrogen monoxide or H2O.
hummingbirdshome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He must be a CEO at a big Corp by now
supermariofunshine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The lesson to be learned from this - don't automatically trust everything you hear, even if it sounds legit. Always do your research first.
Burning_Zero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why does the thumbnail look like a girls butt. Man i need to stay away from the internet
ThaBenMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That... That's water, right?
cathaholic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The water molecule will always look like a double amputee in a bikini bottom to me.
halinc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So 43/50 14 year old kids were suggestible and scientifically illiterate? Stop the presses and book a ticket straight to Karma Town!
chillyblizz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it would seem that california already has a headstart on this.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NZ parliament MPs actually tried to ban it twice in seven years. One was a progressive (Green), and another was a conservative (National).
Agent223 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This molecule looks like buttcheeks in a bikini. I love molecules.
knight_who_says_knee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So....what kind of scientists were his parents?
sharkbaitnoob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone else think the thumbnail was a booty?
Usain_Dolt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorta reminds of the poll in which the majority voted to bomb Agrabah. You know, the setting for the fuckin' Aladdin movie by Disney.
ApeInTheShell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i thought i was looking at an ass in the thumbnail for a second
Aaces ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite part was finding this little gem in the original article: >"Finding Zohnerisms in the press, Congressional Record and speeches of administration officials makes a great parlor game. One place to start is the collected speeches of Environmental Protection Agency chief Carol Browner, who has used Zohnerisms masterfully to promote expensive, disruptive new standards for particulate matter and global warming - despite evidence from scientists that is, at best, inconclusive.
That's a shame. In a land where technical ignorance reigns and susceptibility to Zohnerisms is high, it's the duty of politicians, journalists and scientists to present facts responsibly and in context.
After all, think what would happen if the EPA really did ban dihydrogen monoxide."
hellojocelyn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This looks like a butt in red undies.
aeramor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly today he would have gotten 50/50 :/
addysonclark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
CAKE DAY
SnackeyG1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I kinda want to post " Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide" on Facebook and see what happens.
CuddlePirate420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We should ban names. Every wife beater, dictator, murderer, rapist, child molester, drug addict, pedophile, serial killer, and mass murderer had a name.
DrMasterBlaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just see a big booty in red underwear
Melbmeets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:18 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Extended family is in some sort of multi level marketing about hydrogenised water from Japan
ShotgunSullivan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The logo looks like a sideways butt in red underwear.
Nerdn1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a teacher try to pull this crap, but it was in a Freshman AP science class, so there were more people who figured it out immediately, myself included.
wzrdmn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:33 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a valid sample of 'the public' ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
AmazinGracey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, this about lines up with my expectations of humanity...
seabutcher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I follow the Dihydrogen Monoxide Awareness page on Facebook. Gotta keep the world informed of how dangerous this stuff is.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thumbnail looks like a girl leaning slightly to the left, while twerking in a red thong.
_bae_urban_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whats this even for like what the heck???
Bleezy79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is brilliant, I love it. Even if it only made one person be more aware of whats presented to them, then this kid won.
insanelyphat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Something very similar are all the times people go out and get tons of women to sign a petition to end women's suffrage....
qwertitties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:26 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this shit sounds like a real 'Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hydro'
cazbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how much those 7 kids were paid by the water lobby?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So don't you think there should be a task force of people that go out and just read shit and try to identify this stuff? I feel like this is happening everywhere and people are just mentally lazy.
Bogan_Hero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His project aimed to prove that butt cheeks will swallow underwear.
fishnogeek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Further proof of the 80/20 rule?
Bloommagical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You learned this today? I learned it 420 years ago
GvsuMRB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:41 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where is this guy now? He's 33 now right?
pablothenice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A fact is a fact. Saying true fact is the same as saying oily oil.
Pedracer1984 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:44 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Containing dihydrogen monoxide creates jobs.
123bbunm3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:33 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
K mm8 nice swagg
Stuckin_Foned ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:49 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did first prize give anything?
General_Zarroff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:59 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder whats he doing now ?
Javalamp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In High School we used to joke about 'Hydrogen Hydroxide' being the primary component in acid rain... but I enjoy the point of the study, that's clever!
Hegiman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't care what people think im hooked on the stuff, I'd die without it. Hell, I got a bottle of it earlier today and using right now. I love DHMO.
Lo0seR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Timing of this TIL , interesting considering the story above it on the frontpage.
Stereoparallax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:13 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get it. http://i.imgur.com/Kjr3hsE.png
btw, I know it changes all the time
Lo0seR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:03 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hear ya, mine was #2 & #3.
Nutcup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:53 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder what ole' 30-something Nathan is doing nowadays...
Nutcup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:20 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People believing this crap are suffering from severe Zohneristic tendencies.
FFten2SUCKS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:00 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like the Oxygen molecule is wearing a thong exposing it's bodacious hydrogens
cornbadger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:46 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend an I did this in the seventh grade, with a booth at the county fair. And then the next year we did the same thing only with women's suffrage. We got the idea from some television program, I don't remember which.
Anyway we got about 70 or so signatures for banning water. Some boy-scout, ratted us out on the women's suffrage ban, though. Before he showed up we had about 120 signatures. We had pictures of mother Theresa looking sad, with the words "End Women's Suffrage Now", some chains, and nothing else.
People will sign anything if they think it makes them look sympathetic.
CucumberGod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:38 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That would never work at my school... props to him
Rebellious_blackbear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:47 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The picture next to the title looks like a phat ass
the_Odd_particle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:29 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scary to think that my doctor actually recommended that I drink plenty of this stuff!
mca62511 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:19 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's like the petition my high school history teacher put up on the wall asking for signatures to help "Stop Women's Suffrage."
I don't remember the exact numbers at this point (this was over a decade ago), but he got quick a few signatures.
ParallaxBrew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:34 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What are you talking about? Dihydrogen Monoxide is a known poison. People have died after consuming as little as 18,000 milligrams at once.
Method of action: In sufficient quantities, this poison disturbs electrolyte balance, making it hard for cells to get the nutrients they need to function.
pseudonarne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:11 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
half students being dumb and likely to jump on any protest you stick in front of them, half kids who realized the joke and thought it'd be funny to vote to ban it anyway
SpaceBucketFu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:49 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like somebody had a helicopter mom.
Yammy129 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:45 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lesson learned: kids are dumb
Ford42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, so what. My daughter did a very similar project when she was in junior high in 1995. Only she went to her teachers and adults in the community also. The only person to catch it out of 76 respondents was a 12 year old kid in her math class. She got first place in the junior regional science fair for psychology.
hymnder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:29 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've actually joked about this on facebook. Funny thing was all the pro disease people liked it because they thought I was against "chemicals". Fucking tards.
arrowforerunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:49 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So basically the media/government
nashuanuke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:13 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wasn't there a town in CA that came within inches of outlawing DHMO?
Bloody1990 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:09 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Datass
Kadeem_DL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:29 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thumbnail looks like the backside of girl with a bikini on. (random I know)
ClassicLightbulbs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:04 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Calling rule 34 on this image of h20
LordBrandon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:28 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
During World War II, dihydrogen monoxide was used on various undesirables who were told they were taking "showers". Homosexuals, Jews, gypsies, political prisoners, and sometimes even their own men.
mitchsn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:33 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Penn & Teller did the same thing on their show Bullshit
chuttney1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:52 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe we should start doing this with vinegar. Known to chemists as diluted glacial acetic acid. The IUPAC calls it ethanoic acid. Other names are hydrogen acetate and methanecarboxylic acid. I have wikipedia to thank for the names.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dat big bootie thumbnail!
ofthedappersort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:47 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He remains a virgin
AnhTom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This honestly doesn't impress me much. It's funny, and it's informative in the sense it is a good intellectual exercise to show how important reading closely and critically is. But there's no great lesson here. I'm quite surprised, frankly, that this was considered some achievement. It should not be surprising that either people are concerned about dangerous substances in our contemporary society or, more pointedly, that they are often heavily (or over) reliant on trusting the opinions of others who are giving what appears to be a considered judgment on a topic.
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:26 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it was more the concept of what he did for his project rather than the outcome. Sure it's probably a lot easier to convince a bunch of 14 year old kids than adults, but it makes you wonder what would happen if you surveyed a better sample of people. More importantly, it makes you wonder what other information is being misrepresented by influential figures, the media, etc. and how it effects the population.
AnhTom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:36 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. I'm a lawyer so I'm used to reading very critically and skeptically. So I get the art of verbal manipulation big-time. It's all around us, all day, every day. I don't wonder about it at all. I take it as an obvious fact of life.
schmak01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Loved this Atlanta waterworks response:
A spokesperson for the city's water system told the reporter that there was no more dihydrogen monoxide in the system than what was allowed under the law.[21]
Kookaburrrra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:04 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tide goes in, tide goes out. You can't explain that.
Doriando707 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:46 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
humans are simultaneously the smartest and dumbest of animals
rinekoh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aka the 2016 US presidential election
inthedrink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:47 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True Facts
PixlProphet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
End women's suffrage!
leekie_lum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:02 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would be a pretty stupid classroom, when we were 14 we all knew what water's chemical formula was.
Part_Eggplant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:17 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anybody remember this site? http://www.dhmo.org
Was this kid's project before or after this site?
PicklesofTruth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:40 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me when i was in second grade my teacher gave my class of 30 students each a piece a paper with numbered instructions to complete various tasks one at a time around the classroom. the very first instruction was to read every instruction before acting on any of them.
long story short, everyone in the class save for one individual read ALL of the instructions and was the only student to read that the final instruction was to ignore all of the instructions and just sit down at our desk until everyone had read that step.
so while everyone else was performing the various tasks as instructed on the paper, the one student went to his chair, and sat down, and waited for everyone else to complete the tasks.
that really set a tone for my life, I've never not read all of the instructions for anything thoroughly ever since.
jumpinthedog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:58 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My old physics teacher did this to us
Bizzy79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:09 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The picture looks like a diagram showing the 3 major elements that form the the perfect booty
oshjay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:17 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like what trump is doing
Jmissuh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:46 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Picture looks like an ass
Phredex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:12 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax
Xerkule ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But psychology isn't real science guys!
pete1729 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:38 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it teaches people to be more critical of hysterical claims, that's good. If it teaches them to disregard safety warnings, it's questionable.
TemporalGrid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:32 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jimmy Kimmel and Adam Carolla - End Womens Suffrage
ChryCkeWthGrndne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:44 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While it's completely retarded to vote to ban something you obviously never heard of before. It's kind of weird how some people are acting like the average child/teenager let alone adult should know what Dihydrogen Monoxide is. Why is the chemical name for water that is so rarely used expected to be common knowledge among people that have no interest in chemistry??
I have a Bachelors degree and I was never in my life exposed to the word Dihydrogen Monoxide in any meaningful enough way that I would remember it lol
AziMeeshka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:10 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have even a basic level of chemistry knowledge though you read that and instantly think, H2O, and everyone knows what that is.
ChryCkeWthGrndne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:13 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have basic level of chemistry knowledge, and no.. you don't.. YOU might. Average person, probably definitely doesn't.
Marphy42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:24 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aw man, things were fun before the internet. Now kids just Google what they don't understand.
Anonymous_Flex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:31 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That picture looks like a booty
Tryn2gtJakdNTan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:02 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone who has ever been exposed to Dihydrogen Hydroxide has died.
androidusr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:15 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Parts of this I don't really have a strong opinion over - like the firing of the guys over the prank. That's just meh to me. But a lot of people are calling ignorant those who don't realize that Dihydrogen Monoxide is water, or their reaction to the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide. I do think they're giving themselves too much credit.
Most people don't really understand why arsenic or plutonium is bad for your health. You trust what you've been told. You probably don't even know what arsenic really is. Or if you do, I'm sure I can pick a dozen other things for which you think is bad for you, but you don't really know why or really have an understanding of what the substance is. And on any April 1st, there's probably a set of news stories will be about things that are dangerous to your health, just like these news stories come up at random probabilities on any other day of the year. Those two radio guys probably mention real news on a regular basis, which they intend their listeners to actually heed. The story frames it as an April Fools joke, so you see it as that.
You'd look dumb if I told you that the whole story was an April Fools day joke.
metecho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:45 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I keep thinking the thumbnail is a sexy booty. Ooh girl let me pinch them hydrogens
Grampionjr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:00 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice tits.. or is that an ass?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:12 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This has been a regular thing. People did this for science fair in middle school, going around their neighborhood and whatnot telling people all these terrible facts- then at the very end revealing it's just water.
padrepio23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:18 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Future savior or marketing guru right there. Effin Brilliant.
Zah96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:28 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like a picture of butt
fortevn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:32 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like how he said "Ignorant public" instead of "Stupid people"
Luvax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:34 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember our chemestry teacher reading the same facts about water and getting everyone of us to ban it. Now I know the background. I think there is a huge lesson to be learned from that.
lets-get-dangerous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:23 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It boggles my mind that a 14 year old could probably convince millions of Americans that water is bad. Guys who can spin facts like this is how mlm schemes/anti vaccers/scientologists sucker people into their respective cults.
bassampp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:18 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Without reading the post, the picture looks like a butt with a swimsuit.
ArimusPrime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:41 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But what he really did was tear down the education system. One fiftieth of those students knew what water is.
spam99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL Nathan Zohner created the whole idea behind reddit when he was 14.
Richter_Of_Flett ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:25 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just see a G string in that picture...
171gunslinger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:38 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
genius
blondefunrun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:23 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I teach an environmental class and did something similar to this at the beginning of my water unit. Despite having chemistry as a prerequisite, only 2 out of 93 students got my joke. I was actually a little bummed by that, but they were pretty serious in their discussion of why it should be banned.
zemallo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This could probably easily be repeated on an international level thanks to social media and ignorance. Get people protesting on the streets about the use of dhmo
UpTheIron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:38 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My chemistry teacher tried this once. I was the only one to speak up but she just looked at me, so i figured shit, this woman has like 3 bachelor's degrees, and i have a C- in this class, i must be wrong.
endingonagoodnote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:41 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm more impressed to learned they coined Zohnerism after what this 14 year-old did.
tchofftchofftchoff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:47 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thumbnail looks like a cartoon butt in a speedo. I've been deceived.
NewZachCity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:57 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a Nathan for you episode
iiSoLdIeRZzZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:15 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
is it bad that i thought the thumbnail was a butt with stump legs and red panties
RightAsRainMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:53 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL that a water molecule looks like a butt in red panties
Korona123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:19 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Before the internet people would believe anything...
JediKaza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:33 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This picture looks like a butt.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a good indicator that approximately 86% of people are failed by both parents and teachers.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:44 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DHMO.org
ppanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:07 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did anyone else see a bikini bottom from the picture
spockspeare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:14 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The GOP's been using this method for a long time. Since 1932 in Germany, essentially.
carydog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:59 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True facts as opposed to false facts.
UnderThe102 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:33 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is also a life lesson. If a car repairman tells you you have a DHMO leak in your A/C, you can call them out for their BS.
xthexcolorxpinky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:16 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
awesome...
kenwaystache ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:59 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JvN8RvV_u_A/UDQPo3uMr1I/AAAAAAAATw0/JCsfk0SFYso/s1600/255405_10151085507908119_1873104569_n.jpg
MY_GOOCH_HURTS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:07 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thumbnail looks like an ass that was fat.
TChuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:27 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So am i the only one who noticed the image l[k like a red thong
akhims ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:28 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It would have been 50 out of 50 but 7 people apparently love water.
Supes_man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:55 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaaaand this is perfectly explains why Donald trump and Hilary Clinton are the two most people will vote for this year. People who may technically have the facts but are greatly missing the big picture and ability to think critically. โน๏ธ
SHEEPmilk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:54 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, It's incredible how incredibly stupid people are.
mobyinacan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:22 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Today all of his classmates can vote!
thegrandlyon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:38 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Penn and Teller did a really great bit on this. They had a lady (in on it) go around to one of these environmentalist conventions and have people sign a petition. She was giving great fake stats. They got a ton of idiots to sign it, and one noticed what it was. It's on YouTube. Source: https://youtu.be/yi3erdgVVTw
Orionoceros56 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:56 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was your 666th upvote... you evil bastard
unlimitedanna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:51 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does anybody else sees a butt wearing red panties in the thumbnail?
Zargone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:02 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water is deadly!
PFY1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My Chem teacher gave us this like 3rd day in the class only about 6 of us got it and when we pointed it out we got into this big argument about gmos. Never once did they admit they were wrong just changed subjects lol
6REB6GIRL6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:47 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i know i sound stupid but....
i thought h2o was water? hydrogen and oxygen?
plz explain someone....
IceFire2050 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:49:39 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is. It's a joke. It's basically showing that if you present information that, while still correct, in a specific way you can drive people to a desired conclusion.
Telling people that Dihydrogen monoxide is a major component of acid raid. (Because all rain is mainly water)
That it can cause severe burns. (If it's hot enough)
That it can corrode metal. (By rusting it)
That it can erode natural landscapes (That is how rivers work)
That it can cause electrical failures in cars. (Or in any electronic that gets wet.)
Is used in nuclear power plants (As a coolant)
Is used on animals in laboratories. (Animals need to drink)
Is used in pesticides on produce and washing them does not remove it. (Hard to remove water from a plant by washing it.)
6REB6GIRL6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:56 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i understand that, but i dont get why its called dihydrogen monoxide, i thought waters chemical name was h2o... or something
IceFire2050 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:28:50 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dihydrogen (2 Hydrogen) Monoxide (1 Oxygen)
Carbon Monoxide for example is CO (1 Carbon, 1 Oxygen)
GrizzlyBear74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are correct. By calling water by its proper chemical composition as a joke, and even created hoax pages about caused so many to fall for it. Even funnier when they say the water supply was contaminated by, well water, just show you how people and tree huggers jump on the bandwagon without actually understanding what it is all about.
hasmanean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:02 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ultrapure water is everything described and more. It's actually dangerous for you in moderate quantities, since it leaches minerals from your body. Plus it tastes bad.
IceFire2050 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:26 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, Dihydrogen monoxide has a nice ass.
futureformerteacher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:29 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL that water looks like a double amputee in a pair of overly tight red underwear.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy heck this post's 8000 upvotes was brought back down to 5000...
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:02 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know. It was up to 9,880... Yet even though it went back down to 5,000 it still remained around 80% upvotes. TIL about Vote Fuzzing. I guess there are bots that upvote and downvote posts to regulate the feed or something.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:17 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makes you wonder about the highest post on /r/all ....maybe it had about 100k upvotes before being dragged back down to 66k? Woah
NickTonyMack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:03 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In high school I helped a friend get signatures for a petition to "Stop Women's Suffrage". There were far too many people willing to sign it.
Bravoflysociety ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:16:47 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I fell like 14 year olds are way more impressionable than adults and would just accept something like this if told and don't accurately represent people as a whole.
beebeereebozo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:26:30 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vani Hari would still vote to ban it.
FireOccator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:36:32 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pen & Teller anyone? If you think this is stupid, Green Peace once wanted to ban chlorine.
nupt94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:44:12 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What I'd like to know is what this kid is doing now
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:21:46 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water way to win first prize!
My3centsItsWorthMore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:35 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the thumbnail pic looks like a booty in a bathing suit. Thats all i came here to say. I'll go back to m,y corner now.
BrokerKingdoms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:14:16 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/titlegore
your use of the phrase "true facts" is shameful
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:04 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know, I know. Believe me you are not the first one to mention it.
BrokerKingdoms ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:25:54 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I accept your apology, and willingly return your upvote to you.
type_5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:43:30 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why does that image look like a wedgie?
Chris11246 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:00:42 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Theres a fair number of people nit picking and saying things like he only mentioned Dihydrogen monoxide once so it would be hard to catch. Thats the entire point of the project getting people misinformed. Its not about how smart people are, its about how easy it is to make people assume the wrong conclusion without lying.
morkfromyourmom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:48 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
whose the hotty in the red panties?
baeofpigz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aka: why America will probably ban Muslims, anyway
NewClayburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:30 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what I hate about science fairs. It's just shit kids copy from something they find online. I guess it's good for showing them the process of the scientific method, but I wish it could be done in a vacuum. Let the kids come up with their own problem and how to go about solving and testing it.
uptworta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:47 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but it's almost as bad as hydrogen hydroxide. Truly dangerous thing.
6REB6GIRL6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:33 on June 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
aaaaahhhh, i see! thank you for both your answers
Andymo90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:54 on June 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bubble butt
ClaraJustClara ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:54 on December 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nathan grew up to be a Trump campaign staffer.
bobbyjrsc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chemtrails are 100% Dihydrogen Monoxide.
jihiggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he also proved a staggering majority of his classmates are fucking stupid.
Shalashashka ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:07:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They were in middle school...
jihiggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
learning what h2o stands for is a lot sooner than middle school.
Shalashashka ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:25:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But he never said anything about h2o, he said dihydrogen monoxide. Idk about you but I didn't start learning names like that until highschool.
boot2skull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:10 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fact: Everyone that ever got cancer also ingested Dihydrogen Monoxide on a daily basis!
NilacTheGrim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:54:26 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fact: Gay people and Muslim terrorists have been found to have over 50-65% dihydrogen monoxide in their body tissues!
llamasR4life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It also has addictive properties, 100% of people who tried it came back for more.
kvn9765 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You think that's crazy, my neighbor puts his kids in a box with explosive materials and then proceeds to create a whole bunch of small explosions. At some point you would think after creating thousands of small explosions that the gallons of HIGHLY explosive material will turn into a fireball. Think of the children!!!
What's the box?
GKorgood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You. I like you.
kvn9765 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where the F is my GOLD?
GKorgood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm broke dude, sorry. Have an upvote and some Reddit Silver instead.
kvn9765 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just kidding. Keep your silver, we are all in this Reddit thing together... except for the guys who own it, they are rich as fuck.
kvn9765 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:51 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
obtw: You know that was a real fear. When the internal combustion engine came out for cars, the sales people for steam cars would bring up the fear of explosions. At the time, you would be sitting on the gas tank.
peter_the_panda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this experiment pretty much explains why before guns or any other reform, you need to reform who is and isn't allowed to vote. Like....take a simple, miniature test or something to weed out some insanity
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Poll test! Poll test!
Question 1: do you Reddit or read the hugfington post?
If yes no franchise rights for you!
The problem isn't actually reasoning or intellect it is flaws in the human condition. The major one is that emotions override reason and critical thought.
There is literally nothing you can do about it. It needs to be regulated by the government.
Someone needs to create Adams smiths theory on economics for societal pressures and media. Aka (Nazi fascism).
And there's your dilemma solve it.
(See what I did there I got you to agree with the Nazis for a second. . .)
peter_the_panda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your second statement about emotions overriding rational thought is so on point it's not even funny.
Nothing was more apparent than the recent gun debates. I don't want to get into what is right or what is wrong but I heard a legit argument from someone that the AR-15 is the most widely used weapon in mass killings not for its lethality, light weight portability, high rounds per minute potential or mag capacity....no...I heard a grown man say, "it's only used because the killers think it looks cool..."
Again, I'm not flaming a debate but when that is your argument and you truly believe what you're saying to be true, then THATS what I find scary.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's insane. Once you start looking for it you see it everywhere.
There is no longer a media organization in America doing its job. Literally every outlet now creates these emotionally charged headlines which are factually incorrect, fear inducing, and extremely divisive, based on emotional pleas.
Why? Because it's more profitable. As Howard Stern discovered his best listeners were the ones he upset the most.
It's not just guns it's everything. The media is filled with amoral, degenerate scum. And natural law dictates that Amoral, degenerate, scum will succeed more with media than responsible newscasters because of flaws in the human psychology which can be exploited by vermin with loose ethical affiliations. If it bleeds it leads. These emotional manipulations are like drugs for human psychology.
Just like the Mafia is the best form of business, or fraud, or unethical actors like those who dump toxic waste instead of disposing of it properly, or monopolies who destroy competition, unethical actors will always out produce and out profit responsible businesses. Natural law favors unethical and damaging actors.
Our solution? Regulation. Societal good takes precedence to the benefit of the few who exploit the system unethically for their own enrichment. Our regulated economy works remarkably well in most respects.
The media needs regulation just like the economy. It is the only solution.
peter_the_panda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having worked at a local news station in a fairly decent market for a couple years I can confirm everything you said.
Stories are just regurgitated from the early morning AP wire and put into the producer's (or whoever happens to be writing the copy that day) own words.
People don't watch the news because they want to be informed, they watch to hear someone speak on stories they already knew about...I never quite understood.
You write really well...are you a teacher or in the writing profession?
CAKE_EATER251 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
KEEP CONTAINER TIGHTLY CLOSED. SUITABLE FOR ANY GENERAL CHEMICAL STORAGE AREA. DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE IS CONSIDERED A NON-REGULATED PRODUCT, BUT REACTS VIGOROUSLY WITH SOME MATERIALS. THESE INCLUDE SODIUM, POTASSIUM AND OTHER ALKALI METALS; ELEMENTAL FLUORINE; AND STRONG DEHYDRATING AGENTS SUCH AS SULFURIC ACID. IT FORMS EXPLOSIVE GASES WITH CALCIUM CARBIDE. AVOID CONTACT WITH ALL MATERIALS UNTIL INVESTIGATION SHOWS SUBSTANCE IS COMPATIBLE. EXPANDS SIGNIFICANTLY UPON FREEZING. DO NOT STORE IN RIGID CONTAINER AND PROTECT FROM FREEZING. http://www.dhmo.org/msdsdhmo.html
Deannerzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:08 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thumbnail looks like a butt in red panties
elrocko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
came here to say this
Coolest_Breezy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if Dihydrogen Monoxide is actually poison, and just kills really slowly?
NilacTheGrim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, life is a sexually transmitted terminal condition...
byttle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dat hydrogen tho
bishamonten31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:40 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you tilt your screen it's a butt in some panties :D
godawfulsanta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
H20 sure does look like a hiney in very tight underpants. Some lightspeed briefs maybe.
BAMspek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Wikipedia thumbnail looks like Roger from American Dad in a thong.
MLaw2008 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one here who sees a butt more than a molecule in the thumbnail?
Itsismylife2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I clicked because that pic looks like an ass
transfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Therefore all the chemicals we put in your food are okay.
ting_bu_dong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:09 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dat molecule
F15005 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Merica
no10envelope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:47 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm shocked that it was only 43/50. I bet if you tried it on 40 year olds it would be a larger percent.
fatgirlsgive-RIMJOBS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean Nathan's parents won first prize.
Puthy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Typical Reddit.
Knows a useless niche chemistry word and thinks they are smart and superior for literally knowing useless information.
thesleepyassassin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:04 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the thumbnail for this was an ass.
Ryslin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obligatory post for those who don't get it - Dihydrogen monoxide:
Di = 2 Mono = 1
2 Hydrogen atoms. 1 Oxygen atom = H20 = water
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:34 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/u/muchcharles /u/linknewtab /u/grumpyoldbrit
In the context of VR subs, anything about this that feels familiar? :D
muchcharles ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:27:58 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They now (yesterday) have improved tracking with the capability to do roomscale.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:31:38 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So the multitude of dev videos already doing roomscale are CGI? What on earth does that have to do with anything anyway? I was referring to your atrocious behavior in /r/oculus before you and your obnoxious peers thankfully, finally migrated to /r/vive (where admittedly you've continued your crap, but at least where I don't have to see it).
Inb4 "I don't know what you're talking about." It's simply not possible for someone to lack self-awareness to that extent and still maintain an identity. But then again I guess you can't acknowledge it and still save face for your fans who take your bullshit for gospel.
muchcharles ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The Fantastic contraption 18' roomscale video shows lots of jitter when one camera is occluded and he is 9' from the other. Taking that as the limit, a 9' diagonal square leaves you with about a 6foot, 4inches squared usable play area.
With the corner shadowing, due to vertical fov, when you have them that close it would be even smaller.
This is all just based on the fantastic contraption video.
But it sounds like they have now finally improved it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:52:04 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, fucking unbelievable. I considered editing that bit out knowing that if you replied it would be to that and that only. Decided to keep it to see if I was right and lo and behold.
Now the question is whether it's part of personal conviction or if it's in your job description.
Now that there are no bits left to reply to that would let you avoid acknowledging yourself, I expect no more replies. :)
muchcharles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:13 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your other accusations are garbage.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:14:29 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then why did you reply at all? In no way what so ever did I make any reference to roomscale. You just picked that up out of nowhere.
muchcharles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:05 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what specifically were you alleging to be a lie and to be reminiscent of a dihydrogen monoxide hoax?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:58 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing regarding the water stuff. Second to last sentence. :)
muchcharles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:55 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds more like Oculus' tactics in interviews. Except they don't always bother making it all true.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:45 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Zing!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:49 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because honestly, that's some professional level misdirection.
xxsciophobiaxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In grade 8, our science teacher essentially presented the DHMO hoax to the class. He asked us how many of us would propose to ban/reduce/eliminate the use of this substance. Nearly everyone put their hand up. When asked who would not be in favour of banning this substance, I was the only one to put my hand up. He asked me why I didn't want to ban DHMO. I said, You've listed only the negative effects of the use of this chemical, what are the positives and what is it used for? He commented on my ability to think critically, and explained the whole DHMO hoax. I received a bunch of "try-hard" stares from my classmates.
Is it any wonder I ended up a scientist.
tonytony87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The facts are clear people we need to ban all dihydrogen monoxide until we an figure out this situation. We need to build a wall around it and deport it. It's coming In here. it's bringing burns, rape and is used to make drugs.
We need to ban it now!
footfoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you understand why GMO labeling is a bad thing now?
muricabrb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:23 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, he lost 43 friends even though he proved his point.
brantc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He could substitute Climate Change for 'dihydrogen monoxide'.
Balthanos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:01 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You just proved that 80% of the US population that believe in Global Warming may be wrong due to the framing of the information........
..... ..
barronleger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:18 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or... it proves how easily manipulated 14 year old children can be. Parents of science fair kids are 100% responsible for the content of those experiments. The ideas are generally an amalgamation of their own wasted potential at that age and issues that their children don't give a shit about.
ImOP_need_nerf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:40 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is basically the Hillary campaign in a nutshell.
nocontroll ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 17:46:49 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
So a jackass 14 year old asked a bunch of other 12-16 year olds a convoluted question in order to get the response he wanted.
Smart kid; but most most of his "test group" were barely entering biology, let alone chemistry.
Everyone knows H20 but rarely people think about it as Hydrogen dioxide
edit: Apparently I'm the only one that thought the H02 joke was funny.
coffeeINJECTION ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:00:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure the adults would have fared much much worse. BTW HO2
nocontroll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The idea of that is fucking terrifying.
And now that I'm 29 I know it's a reality.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:15:28 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hydrogen dioxide would be HO2 (which I don't think would ever exist), not water.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:50:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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geniice ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:03:36 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The chemists on the other hand will beat you to death with a copy of the IUPAC nomenclature of inorganic chemistry (which would suggest that if for some reason you want to call it something other than water "Hydrogen oxide" would the logical name).
mfb- ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:23:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not even the point - it is fine if you don't know what dihydrogen monoxide is, but then don't pretend to have an informed opinion on it - something many people do. Same with genetic modifications, nuclear power and so on.
PhilSeven ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:24:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Penis in the Vagina = baby
MeatyLoafr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, judging by the teen pregnancies, maybe more like
Penis in the vagina = fleshy fun times but maybe baby.
pizzatoppings88 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:02:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow you completely missed the point of his experiment, even though it's in the title of this thread
Naburu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:15:03 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because it isn't hydrogen dioxide, that would be HO2.
HowLittleIKnow ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:17:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not only this, but he basically plagiarized it. The whole "dihydrogen monoxide" thing was a popular faxlore back when I was in junior high in the 1980s.
THANKS-FOR-THE-GOLD ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:27:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At that level everything "science expiriment" is unoriginal research, its about showing competency with the steps of research rather than obtaining meaningful results.
jurgemaister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:31 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it's really good that people don't mix water with hydroperoxyl.
vegetaban ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's not hydrogen dioxide. That'd be HO2.
Almostana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:24 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't even name it right, so that kind of proves his point, no? You named HO2, not H2O.
pretendingtobecool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:37 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd hope people wouldn't think of water as hydrogen dioxide, cause those two things are not the same.
THANKS-FOR-THE-GOLD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:56 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah they shouldn't because thats HO2.
paperiino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:06 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
H20? That sounds like a lot of hydrogen and no oxygen. H2O, however...
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 20:16:21 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Basically how the Liberal left works.
sideshow9320 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:34:53 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One threat. Just one thread. Can we please have one thread without this bullshit.
Sniperwulf16 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:01:52 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
This kid is a Grade A dickcheese for making this project. Plus, when my teacher did this to us, she told us it could kill you if you drank it, and I panicked because I accidentally drank some of it during one of the steps in the project. So, I caused a classwide panic because everyone thought that I was going to die right there on the spot.
TL;DR: Teacher told me water could kill me, accidentally drank some, and caused a small riot to ensue in class
billdowis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:41 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you "accidentally" drink something?
Sniperwulf16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:00 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
She had us put the water into a straw and hold it there so other people could observe how it moved. I think she was literally wanting us to cause mass panic.
sensicle ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:55 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's funny. Psychiatric RN here. I actually told a paranoid patient last night that the cup I was holding contained dihydrogen monoxide, and that she was to drink it with her medicine.
Of course she refused, but it was a fun little gag anyway. You'd have to understand the relationship I have with her. It wasn't taken as deceitful or mean in context.
Kasper-X-Hauser ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 18:41:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And Sanders used that approach as the basis for an almost successful insurgent campaign.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I applaud you brave soul.
Don't worry the new one is the libertarian canidate. Voting for a libertarian is the political equivalent of banning h20.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:06:27 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like Trump and Sanders voters.
GuttersnipeTV ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:00 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually it sounds like anti trump and sanders crows rather than supporters honestly.
jeffreytong123 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:21:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you didn't say it was water here I wonder how many people you would trick
lenbedesma ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:26:43 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In all history, consumption of this chemical has resulted in a 100% mortality rate.
I don't know why this kid didn't win a nobel prize!
Spyrothedragon9972 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:27:54 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dumb people can be mislead*
FTFY
DrDisastor ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:29:13 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a Dihydrogen Monoxide awareness guy on facebook who trolls the ever living shit out of the crunchy thinkless hipsters. It's awesome.
Musehobo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:30:50 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now I have a word ("Zohnerism") to use when rabid redditors use "and that's a fact, not opinion" to justify some bonehead theory.
UnfairLobster ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:24:44 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can convince 14 year olds just about anything. This is dumb.
BoonesFarmGrape ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:12:12 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
from an experiment design standpoint this demonstrates nothing except the author knows nothing about experiment design
JahRockasha ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:23:42 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So he convinced other 14 year olds that knew nothing of chemistry or nomenclature that a molecule was bad. It sounds like carbon monoxide which has a negative connotation to it, rightly so. Can people be swindled and hoodwinked into thinking something about a subject they are uneducated about. there are a million examples of this and they bum me out. I personally hate all of the dihydrogen monoxide jokes.
Stereoparallax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:16 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would assume that's because the joke is old now. You may notice that he did this in 1997, not yesterday.
JahRockasha ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:56:34 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't see the date. I was 12 when this happened so I probably would have been fooled like the rest of them as I knew nothing about chemistry. I happened to see a joke about it after I had a general chemistry class so my view point of it was different. Making fun due to ignorance is easy and almost demeaning.
Broseff_Stalin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:10:21 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, most 14 year old's are pretty stupid to begin with.
Apple2Forever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:50 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of them do know how to use apostrophes correctly, though.
Broseff_Stalin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:33 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you mean commas. An apostrophe looks like this '
Broseff_Stalin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:57:35 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you mean commas. An apostrophe looks like this '
And for the record that is the correct use of a comma.
Apple2Forever ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:06:14 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I meant precisely what I said. Plurals don't have apostrophes.
Broseff_Stalin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:12 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Woops. I didn't notice I typed that.
Point still stands though. Most 14 year olds are pretty stupid.
lucidzealot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:34:35 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to a false fact?
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:41:46 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah yeah. Every 15 comments or so. I made a mistake. Sorry for my redundancy.
lucidzealot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:11:49 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey man I was being a dick. No worries.
๐๏ธ parlonida ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:00:02 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
<3
Dropperneck ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:08:49 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the call for an assault weapons ban, in a nutshell, is it not??
Cultjam ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:18:14 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly what's happened to Vitamin C. Yes it does knock the shit out of viral infections. I'd be dead from a burst appendix if it didn't.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:38:44 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
This is how I view a lot of environmentalists fears towards climate change. Especially those jumping on board the doomsday propaganda.
Fugitivebush ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:54:57 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry for the shit post, but does anyone else see a tight buttocks in a thong in the thumbnail?
Fugitivebush ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:55:19 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry for the shit post, but does anyone else see a tight buttocks in a thong in the thumbnail?
jplevene ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:47:11 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like the EU debate in the UK, letting a completely undemocratic state have absolute power over them with fear being preached as to why they should accept it.
Xenodia ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL that the Human race manage to surprise me how stupid some people can be.
I mean when I was 13 years old, I've learned in school what the scientific name of water is...
ngtaylor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:39 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In my chemistry class last year (I am in highschool) there were a lot of people who got fooled by this
greyh4t ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 18:16:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So basically Global Warming.
universal_law ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:35:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, surely dumping previously unseen concentrations of CO2 into a balanced system has zero consequences. Le Chรขtelier's Principle doesn't exist. It's all media hype.
Jorhiru ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:20 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, what it proves is that when you deliberately use terminology that is obscure to those without a chemistry background, and then leverage people's trust in you to come to a conclusion that you claim (falsely) to support, THEN they arrive at a false conclusion. Hooray. The fact that this kid got a science award for that premise is the real failure here.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:57 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's exactly what his study was meant to show. People ought to do their own research before mindlessly signing a petition. Seems obvious, and yet the majority of his classmates didn't even bother thinking about what they were doing. Says something about how democracy can go wrong...
Jorhiru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:42 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? A bunch of 14 year olds in an era before ubiquity of internet search engines trusted a classmate of theirs with a deliberately false and misleading premise, and that's the parallel you came away with? See, if there's a way of expressing something that is easier to understand, such as calling water "water" instead of "dihydrogen monoxide" - then that's the route you go if you hope to inform or be honest.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:52 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This dihydrogenmonoxide thing has been going on for decades, and even if you ask people in public, the majority of them would still be in favor of banning it, and they're not 14 years old. Which just seems weird to me. I know nothing about chemistry, but if somebody came along and asked me if I wanted to sign a petition to outlaw "Pentahydroxyhexanal" (just got this from Wikipedia, it's sugar), I wouldn't sign it just because it sounds "scary". Instead, I'd look it up somewhere to see what this random dude I just met on the street's proposal is all about.
The point of the study isn't to deceive people by calling water by its chemical name, but to show that it's very easy to get them to support banning something they have no idea about.
Jorhiru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, I agree that the adult public deciding on real legislation has a greater onus when it comes to being informed. But when I can call something by a term that near everyone understands, or else select a term I know few will understand, and I choose the latter in making a case for something I do not support - that is absolutely an intent to deceive. I can guarantee that those same kids would not support their classmate had he merely used the better known term "water", no matter what other supplemental "facts" he used to try and make his case. That's important.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:01 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't doubt that. However, I bet that if the study were performed with a different chemical that doesn't have a more commonly known trivial name, say 5-Hydroxytryptophan (an amino-acid), most people would still sign the petition even though the substance is mostly harmless. No deception there. What I'm trying to say is that a large part of the population is just scared of "chemically-sounding" names in general.
Jorhiru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:29 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, for sure - no argument there. "Most people" don't even know what century the US Civil War occurred in. But there's no clear answer on what the public should or shouldn't know (other than more than they do, haha), and using trust and obscurity to dupe people is as old as time. Far better to go after those that deliberately seek to mislead, than to expect the public to suddenly attain enlightenment.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:22 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He should work at a conservative think tank.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:59 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That kid's name? Albert Einstein.
lickmygomjabbar ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:17 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The kid deserves no credit. The other morons who voted for this should have been beaten with a switch.
ohmbreviation ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:32 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is how I feel about Bernie supporters. They'll get behind anything that sounds like it would solve a problem without first understanding what the problem is.
JumpyPorcupine ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me how people falsly assume Trump is racist.
HereComeTheJudge ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the only people who find things like this funny probably also laughed at the chemistry teacher's jokes in high school
Maculate ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:45 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And now he is the head of the Clinton Campaign.
Freakwinsea ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:19 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what they do with religion isn't it?
aazav ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:08 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are no such things as "true facts". All facts are true by definition.
Do you drive to work in your automobile car? No, you do not.
Downvoted for stupidity.
Fugitivebush ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:00 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry for the shit post, but does anyone else see a tight buttocks in a thong in the thumbnail?
Fugitivebush ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:18 on June 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry for the shit post, but does anyone else see a tight buttocks in a thong in the thumbnail?
wral ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 18:08:58 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Story of global warming alarmism
A40 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:30 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Calorically-augmented troposphere consummates the concours.
JViz ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:14 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now he works for Donald Trump.
JustALittleAverage ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:02 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ignorance is the new God.
Madstork1981 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:16 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of like Carbon Dioxide being labeled as a pollutant.
alphasquid ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:38 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They banned water from his project? So he wasn't allowed to use water in his project? So what? There's lots of other projects he could have done that don't need water.
Nuttin_Up ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:46 on June 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly what's happening with the man-made "global warming" bullshit. And you people are falling for it hook, line and sinker.