cbftw ยท 262 points ยท Posted at 16:25:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Damn...
starts writing in his dictionary
arlenroy ยท 144 points ยท Posted at 17:24:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The question I have, aren't there fossil phrases as well?
Living High On The Hog.
Derived from working poor in the late 1800s-early 1900s, meaning you can afford to pay for quality cuts of pork on the top end. Not fatty mixes from the lower end.
A Buck Snort.
Used as slang for a measurement, food or drink. A very minuscule amount, a teaspoon.
"Add a Buck Snort of sugar to sweeten it."
Blowing Smoke.
When you're lying or trying to make the situation appear not that bad. Came from medical professionals thinking blowing tobacco smoke up ones rectum to combat drowning. Injection of a stimulant into the anal cavity, it never was proven to work however it appeared that they were trying at least. "Quit blowing smoke up my ass".
These are all strictly from my Grandma, what I recall.
Loose canon. A few tons of metal rolling free on a wooden ship could crush and kill you, or go right through the hull, sink the ship, and kill everyone. In rough seas, a canon that wasn't tied down was a major emergency that could destroy the whole enterprise.
Edit: Cannon/canon/caรฑรณn. Got it. Thank you.
arlenroy ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 19:57:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know you're spot on, I just never really thought about it. A loose cannon can really cause damage and isn't just a term for a buddy cop movie.
A lose cannon is capable of causing as much damage to your own ship as that of the enemy
WWJLPD ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 21:18:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean despite its problems with retconning some stuff from TOS and losing itself in season 2-3, Enterprise made some nice additions to the canon. I'd hardly say it destroyed anything.
There is no evidence that language change is occurring at such a rate in any English-speaking community that intergenerational communication will be impeded to any degree more significant than previously.
Nichijo ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:47:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes there is. Language is changing faster than ever.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:46:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a source, results point to articles written by questionable, non-scientific media, most of which just copied the article from one another. Try citing a journal, not newspapers.
Nichijo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:57 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nitpick, try following some of the links, try searching. There are TONS of hits. OR, easier still, just slam your mind shut and take it on faith, that in spite of it becoming the world's common language, with most speakers non-native, add to that the expansion of electronic media, especially the internet, of new speakers ...
"Oh, how could it possibly be changing? The professional says it isn't, and I believe in professionals, so they don't have to cite anything....".
I'll put my money on common sense, observation and reason.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:43 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Avoiding the issue, you stated that "the fossilization process is accelerating. You and your grandchildren will not be able to communicate." for which there is no evidence, no one is saying language isn't evolving.
Nichijo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:55:58 on January 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My statement was a half-joke. I'm sure grandparents will speak the same language, and be able to talk to their grandchildren in the future -- although they might not know wtf the other is talking about.
I don't know how old you are now, but there will come a time when you feel like you have to explain everything to a younger listener. I suppose it's as much a feature of the massive shift in common knowledge in the cultural sense.
This is essentially an assertion that you have no evidence, and that you don't care that there has already been research that shows that English is in its longest stable period of its history.
Nichijo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:44 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YOU made an assertion without any evidence. Where's the research that supports your claim?
My assertion was that I haven't seen any papers that support this. Are you looking for research about what I've seen?
In all seriousness, you can look at Nettle (1998) that shows that language change will occur more quickly in small communities than in large ones, with the obvious implication that if we have larger communities now, we expect less change. You can also read books on the history of English (like Millward's A Biography of the English Language) that show that Modern English has changed far more slowly than Old English or Middle English, which both had a high degree of contact-induced change.
Nichijo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:33 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Modern English has changed far more slowly than Old English or Middle English, which both had a high degree of contact-induced change.
This is the reason I believe that it's now in a period of rapid change -- because of all the non-native speakers throwing their ingredients into the pot. Not only human migrations, which are at a high (possible all-time) level, but to the various media (movies, TV and internet) that are fairly new in the historical context).
It just seems to be logical, that this propagation and mixing would accelerate change.
A logical inference is not a fact to be asserted. One of the things you are casting aside is the proportion of non-native speakers to native speakers in the communities where English is common as a first language, as well as the uniformity of the non-native speakers. In Old English, the contact-induced change came from the Danelaw, the area of England ruled by speakers of Old Norse, who constituted about half the population, affecting particularly the grammar and phonology of the language, change which later spread to other dialects. In Middle English, the contact-induced change came principally from French and Latin words (with some influence from Norman, influence that is usually overstated in popular discussions) with almost no impact on the grammar of the language. These sources were fairly uniform and had a good degree of either prestige or interpersonal influence.
Today's influence from non-native speakers doesn't generally get passed on to the broader native-speaking community. There aren't many features of Indian English found in the US despite thousands of immigrants coming here for decades. The UK has some marginal influence from Caribbean Englishes, but it still retains the vast majority of its dialectal traits.
Moreover, it is well-established in the literature (Trudgill's Dialects in Contact, Milroy & Milroy's Language and Social Networks, etc) that interpersonal interaction is what drives most language change and variation, with media playing only a very slight role (infrequent borrowings of words and phrases, which may be highly salient to people but not substantively numerically important).
I can get why you would believe that change is happening quicker, but it's an assertion in need of actual evidence that compares rates of change, rather than a logical inference based on a subset of the factors that one must consider to have it be a valid inference.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:40:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Except that people have different registers of speech according to whom they are talking to and in what situation. Just because the creation and obsolescence of idioms is accelerating doesn't mean that people can't communicate in regular, non-idiomatic speech with people that don't share the same idiomatic expressions with them.
I mean, I'm sure you don't speak to your RL friends in memes outside very specific situations, that's because the context that prompts a register where memes are used is the internet, not real life. The same applies between generations.
Nichijo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:38 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, there's a huge difference in the way we communicate here online, and in-person communication. Something to keep in mind when you meet an "online friend" in person for the first time. The difference can be a rude awakening, too. We are different people in person. I've had this happen both ways. Years ago, I got into an ugly flame war with somebody who had the resources to travel to meet me in person. We became fast friends. I've had it go the other way, too. We concluded that it was best if we continued to be friends online, but stay away from one another IRL.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:03 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was an exaggerated example to get the point across, which is: different context, different registers of speech to ease communication barriers and comply with social expectations.
As for meme, the definition Richard Dawkins coined is far from the current meaning the word has acquired. By using the word meme I meant viral idiomatic expressions suited for internet communication, in this particular context, written memes (since speaking with image macros is quite difficult IRL).
Nichijo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:38 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the definition Richard Dawkins coined is far from the current meaning the word has acquired.
It sure is. That bugs me, to see an interesting idea dumbed down by popular culture, into a cartoon.
"Oh grandpa, you're such a cornhusk. The pickleparty was totally blamming. Next time just send me a nozzer though shizzbot."
Nichijo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like grandpa when I read some messages on Reddit. And when I use such archaic terms like "I accidentally a whole bottle of Coke", or "How many fridges wide is it?", and nobody knows what I'm talking about.
I think fossil words are words that are still used as part of common idioms/phrases, but are almost never used outside those idioms. The fact that it's "preserved" in general use is what makes it a fossil.
An idiom that isn't generally used by people wouldn't be a fossil, since it's not preserved in any way.
kctroway ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:53:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well "butt-chugging" is a thing now...
also buck-snort makes me think of spice weasels in Futurama, where they just squeeze the weasel til it snorts out a small amount of spice.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An idiom is a phrase whose meaning cannot be derived from the sum of it's parts, in that sense all idioms are fossil idioms according to your idea, that is because in order to be considered an idiom, the phrase must no longer make sense by itself due to loss of context (most of the time anyways).
Heck, underdog is a fossil word. It refers to two - man saw teams, cutting wood. One would be on top of the log - the top dog - and the underdog would be underneath, getting sawdust and Crap in his hair and eyes.
surkh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think what makes fossil words "fossil" rather than just "archaic" is that while the original word is no longer used for its original meaning, but it's still in relatively common usage as part of a phrase, but most people don't know the exact original meaning.
arlenroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I understand now, or have a better grip on what exactly constitutes a fossil. Thank you rando internet stranger. In a way wouldn't it make sense if the word or phrase still being doesn't have the same meaning? I mean it would just be considered a repurposed fossil?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:09:29 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My fave is "living below the salt", meaning you weren't on the Lord's table where you had access to delicious, delicious salt.
arlenroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:49 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that, I honestly didn't know what meant. I thought "below the salt? below a salt mine? a hobbit?" I just didn't put two and two together.
psykulor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Living high on the hog is still relevant today; poor people are more likely to be obese in part because they buy cheaper, and fattier, foods.
Anouther ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:28:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh. It's more abusing food stamps to stock up on ice cream and hot pockets. Boneless skinless chicken breast is easily one of the cheapest cut of meat. I say this as someone on benefits. (And dietary fat =/= fat)
My fave is fossil grammar - as a linguistic studying languages with no written historical corpus, fossil phrases and grammar in such phrases (often found in stories) are a window to the past! Sometimes even quite distant past.
The Wikipedia article OP linked to calls what you describe "fossil senses". Basically an idiom that uses a word that is still in use, but has a different meaning in the idiom then it would ever have outside of that context.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the UK we still say 'blowing smoke up my arse' but I had no idea where it came from - thanks!
Huh, I never knew buck snort was an actual phrase and not just a goofy sounding road name.
Noxieus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, those are simply antiquated and not used anymore. The 'fossil' words described are words that like your example phrases, are no longer used, but they are different in that they do still appear in daily conversation thanks to their inclusion in relevant and modern idioms.
But just about every saying is based around an old practice. That's the reason we know them as a saying and don't believe someone is actually living high up on a hog somewhere.
NickRick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no those are dead phrases.
crossmr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:52 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm only in my 30s and use blowing smoke. It's pretty damn common as far as i know.
Monagan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your grandma may be a fossil, but other than that I'm not even sure what you mean by fossil phrases. Are you talking about idioms that relate to things that aren't relevant to current culture? Because that's most idioms. Or are you talking about idioms that no one uses anymore? Because those are just called "idioms no one uses anymore". The whole idea of a fossil word is that it is a word necessary for an idiom, but which remains unused outside of it. It kind of doesn't work if you refer to an entire phrase.
Also, while it's true that blowing smoke up someone's ass was used to combat drowning, there's no evidence that it has anything to do with the idiom, which came about much later. It's probably just a coincidence.
PS: Formatting! Some line breaks with double spaces would be nice. Or quotation marks around the phrases you're listing, at least. Your post was very painful to read.
arlenroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:42 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're very painful to deal with. Double spaces? Are we in sixth grade detention? Seriously who the fuck does that besides no one? You seriously sound like a elementary Language Arts teacher.
Monagan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:56 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I was trying to be polite. However...
First off, since your original post had such bad formatting that it may as well have been written by a particularly intelligent monkey I suppose I can't be surprised you don't realize that a double space at the end of a line forces a line break in reddits formatting. It is also not surprising that the sheer mention of it makes you think of detention, a place someone with your apparent disdain for the English language probably spent a lot of time.
Let me also take a brief moment to point out that even the aforementioned monkey would realize that if you want to be understood, it's important to make your post actually legible - though it probably wouldn't have helped much in your case.
Now for the meat and potatoes of your original post. I noticed you neglected to address any of my actual questions besides some weird response trying to educate me about proper drowning prevention, which goes to show that besides not knowing how to properly write a post, you apparently also have no idea how to read one.
That doesn't really surprise me though. The only reason I asked a few questions about your post was because I had a faint shred of hope you weren't just some dumb redneck whose grasp of the original post about "fossil words" was so thin that they thought their granny's obscure hillbilly sayings, accompanied by dubious or outright wrong origins of said idioms, constituted a valuable addition to the conversation. You even came up with a little term for it, "fossil phrases". How cute. Completely nonsensical, of course, but I guess kind of endearing, like a drawing by a particularly ugly elementary school student.
How about you make like a fossil and get the fuck out of here.
arlenroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:16:06 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about you go back to teaching second grade and talk to someone who gives a fuck about your pathetic attempt to make yourself feel better.
Monagan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:49 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You seem to have some weird obsession with second grade teachers. Did you get held back a lot?
arlenroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:28 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And no, the only way to combat drowning is a life preserver, and not to drown. Idiot.
Knowledge is knowing that nigger and niggardly are not etymologically related. Wisdom is not using the word niggardly because it's not worth the trouble.
Like that one dude a week or two ago on Reddit that grew his hair and beard out for three months and then shaved his head into a male pattern baldness effect and a biker mustache and then put his chin into his chest while putting his head back. Yeah, it's kinda funny for a few minutes, but now your driver's license looks completely different than what you actually look like. No way that would ever come back to cause trouble for you...
We really should be aware , rather than cognisant, of how the English language is abandoning Germanic words in favour of the more elegant Latinate ones, and how we're being inundated with words like career instead of job, or amicable over friendly.
Latinate words in italics and Germanic words in bold.
Except that the Germanic words in your comment are all more popular by far than their Latinate alternatives, which tend to be used only in formal contexts. And thus it has been for a while now; the variation is stable.
I think you're right in general conversation (another pesky Latin derivation), but on Editorial (*again*) pages you'll find far more uses of Latinate words in an attempt to sound well spoken etcetera (figured I'd just bypass the derivations and go straight to the original word).
"Simon, do you know why I've called you into my office?"
-Simon shakes his head-
"Well, you've been reported to us for apparently insulting one of your colleagues by calling them a 'nigger'. Several others have confirmed this. This level of racism and discrimination will not be tolerated by the company. Can you give us your take on the events?"
"Uh, I didn't call Jennifer a nigger..."
"Just tell us what happened, please."
"Fine. Uh, well I was going around the office taking in donations for Barbara's cancer fund - God bless her soul - and when I got around to Jenny she told me she couldn't donate anything. I dunno, I guess it rubbed me the wrong way because she was bragging just a couple of weeks ago about that huge raise she got recently, so I asked her to stop being so niggardly with her money."
"Simon, you do know Jenny is Hispanic, and not black, right?"
"Well yeah, but I don't see what th-"
"So why did you call her a nigger? It's not nice to insult black people for being poor, Simon. I mean I know they're quite poor, but we just can't tolerate that kind of insensitivity towards the negro community."
"Sir, I-"
"Now, listen. I know we did them a great service by taking them out of the jungle, giving them a proper language and jobs to make them a bit more respectable - hell, we even let them keep that hip-hop nonsense to give them a connection to their roots - but calling them out for being the thieving, violent monkeys they are just isn't allowed nowadays. Do you understand what I'm saying, Simon?"
I think it works even better when you switch roles. Webb is more likely to not know the word niggardly. And Mitchell more likely to say it, if only slightly.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's actually several instances. What's really interesting is that the etymology of the word has no connection to the taboo homonyms.
Thanks! I'd never actually looked up other incidents of the use of niggardly - I just didn't want a kid to see it and use it, not realizing most people misinterpret the meaning.
My understanding of that one is that either the person said 'nigger' but told HR it was 'niggardly' to try and keep their job, or the HR person assumed thats what happened.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the HR person assumed thats what happened.
Niggardly - it's a word not used often in the states, so when he used it everyone automatically thought he called someone a nigger, which went around the entire office, until he was fired for racism. I don't think anyone ever bothered to look the word up, and no one had ever heard the word before. (That's all the info I remember - it's second hand from quite a while ago).
blaghart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yea because it sounds like it should be bad, despite sharing no root, no origin, nor meaning with the word nigger. It's not even spelled the same!
Just a surefire sign of people hating what they don't understand.
Reading through the Game of Thrones books is great because they call Tywin a niggard all the time. I'm wondering if this will be something like Harry Potter where the author tries to stay relevant by switching the race of an established character someday. I'd be down for black Lannisters.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be down for black Lannisters.
Hope this doesn't sound racist but The Black Lannisters sounds like it could be a great comedy sit-com.
The first time I heard this when Marv Albert's sex scandal came out. He got canned because of a "Moral Turpitude" clause in his contract.
Source: Basketball fan
peon47 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:47:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've used it three times. Each time I've visited the U.S., I've had to tick a little box that says I've never been convicted of a crime involving it.
It's definitely important to immigration law. Crimes of moral turpitude have serious consequences for immigrants and those seeking admission to the United States.
I use it almost as much as I use the word grommet. Both of those words are pretty swood, I'd say.
tupeloms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People who want to enter the US they have to read a document which states they cannot enter if they have engaged in 'moral turpitude' or sthg like that
cpw_19 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! The only place I've ever seen the phrase "moral turpitude" was on the old green I-94W form that I got when I visited New Orleans back in '08. Do they still do those on airliners, or has ESTA succeeded all of that?
tupeloms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't been back there in years, so I don't know
SARmedic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In career fields where trust is needed, you can be prevented from obtaining a license if you've been convicted of moral turpitude. (Stealing is a good example.)
Careers such as: Paramedics, nurses, firefighters, law enforcement, etc.
bstampl1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turpitude is really great for getting paint off of paintbrushes
I don't understand your comment. "Moral turpitude" is a fairly well-known phrase and "turpitude" is practically obsolete on its own. Just like OP said.
Waddupp ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't really feel bad at all. You are one person, reddit is millions. Let's say 1% is funnier than you. somewhere between 100,000-1,000,000 people. (10,000,000 subscribers to TIL) So if any of them make a witty comment, and it'll be upvoted so it becomes visible.
But you can easily imagine millions of other people saying stupid shit and getting downvoted, or even nothing at all.
It's crowd-sourced comedy. It's not just one guy whos really funny all the time, it's literally millions. To be disappointed that someone, somewhere said something funnier than you shouldn't be surprising.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:57:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:06:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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atree496 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's continue making you feel old. We are closer to the 80's being 40 years ago than 30 years ago.
cvef ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:27:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for providing the real answer! Yeah I got that the word "chameleon" was supposed to be in there somewhere but I've never heard the song before
It works better if you stress the first syllable of amok instead of the last. "Amok" instead of "aMOK". Then your brain starts running the repeating words together, so "amok amok amok" becomes "amokamokamok" which easily becomes "amo kamo kamo kamo Kameleon"
Title-text: It also occasionally replies with 'Comment of the year', 'Are you for real', and 'I'm taking a screenshot so I can remember this moment forever'.
god i hated that movie as a kid. the stupid bitch on the right, even now i want to punch her in her buckteeth. ugh. i don't even remember anything about the movie anymore except for a seething rage.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bette Midler? It was a crazy movie. I hated it, too, but any time someone says "amok," I immediately think of this scene.
Evilbush ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 15:51:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's it mean?
Can I walk amok?
PoorTony ยท 214 points ยท Posted at 17:40:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Amok" isn't actually a fossil word--it's a loan word.
"Amok" was borrowed from the Malay "mengamuk," and referred to the belief that sudden acts of mass violence were caused by a tiger spirit entering the person and compelling them to act against their own character.
"Amok" isn't actually a fossil word--it's a loan word.
I'm pretty sure those are independent of each other. Can't a word be both?
PoorTony ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 18:54:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't a word be both?
Of course. For example, "turpitude", referenced above, is both a loanword and a fossil (coming from the Latin "turpitลซdล"). However, "turpitude" entered the English language in the late 1400s, when the language was quite different. It became a part of ordinary English, and then it fell out of use. It was only preserved as part of the legal phrase "moral turpitude". This is what makes it a fossil word.
"Amok" entered English for the first time in the late 1700s and only attained common use in the mid-1800s. It was borrowed to describe a specific, foreign cultural phenomenon, then had its meaning broadened into a more general meaning. It never "became obsolete" the way that fossil words do.
I'm being pretty deliberately technical and I'd be willing to accept that "amok" is both a fossil word and a loan word. That said, I think it's so much the latter and so little the former that it would be misleading to call it a fossil word.
According to the article, that's called being "born a fossil."
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:01:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh now I'm super interested. Did this mean that a man could be considered innocent if he were to suddenly attack people in a crowd?
PoorTony ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 18:45:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently, yes!
According to Malay mythology, running amok was an involuntary behavior caused by the โhantu belian,โ or evil tiger spirit entering a person's body and compelling him or her to behave violently without conscious awareness. Because of their spiritual beliefs, those in the Malay culture tolerated running amok despite its devastating effects on the tribe.
Amok attacks involved an average of 10 victims and ended when the individual was subdued or โput downโ by his fellow tribesmen, and frequently killed in the process.
Dead people can't be punished for their crimes.
There are mentions of trials in the article as well:
He was captured and brought to trial where evidence revealed that he had suddenly lost his wife and only child, and after his bereavement, he became mentally disturbed.
Cool article, thanks for sharing!
Orlitoq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is an appendix that covers culturally specific diagnoses in the DSM-IV-TR (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of mental disorders, fourth edition, text revision), and is still considered a valid diagnosis in those cultures.
I do not have my DSM-5 on hand or I would check to see if it was included in the latest edition, which was finalized just 2 years ago.
Jurkey ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:26:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In danish, and probably other scandinavian languages, it's still a used work.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:45:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a direct result of Dutch military bases in Indonesia
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:10:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Tagalog it means the same, to go around a frenzied rage and kill. It's to go berserk.
The thing I don't know is if it's a Tagalog word of Malay origin (they're part of the same language family) or made a circuitous way from Malay to English and back to Tagalog.
I'm Malay and I've never heard that story, and I highly doubt that anybody actually believes that. It's just the type of story that old people tell their younglings for fun.
There's no equivalent English word for mengamuk afaik, but it basically means in colloquial usage that someone's bitter about a negative experience or outcome.
soliloki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:43 on February 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm Malay and 'mengamuk' in the supernatural sense really have happened throughout the years, although as a scientific person, I tend to chalk this up to a culturally-bound form of mental disorder. If I'm not mistaken 'run amok' is actually included in the DSM manual.
Also, 'go berserk' is essentially a good equivalent of the word 'mengamuk' if you're taking out the supernatural sense and using it as a general phrase to mean 'going viciously bonkers'. And to those wondering, we do use the word 'mengamuk' still as a verb to mean 'being extremely outraged', without the supernatural nuance.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Beck2012 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the more general point was that at least in compounds it isn't limited to one phrase. Besides Amoklauf/Amoklรคufer/amoklaufen you have words like Amokschรผtze or Amokfahrt.
calgil ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:21:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is in English too - 'run amok', that's the point, it's just 'amok' is never used in any other way. If your version of the phrase is 'go amok' it's still a fossil word.
ahhwell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is used a bit outside of just that phrase though. It can be used sort of synonumously with "crazy" or "hectic".
Kossimer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:31 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is what just amok means. Your question is like asking what just a crank is rather than turning a crank. With the verb run before it, amok is still a murderous rampage of supposedly spiritual origins.
It technically just means 'cause' and you might hear it more in it's past tense 'wrought' possibly in a statement like, "What have your damaged hands wrought?"
Pretty sure wrought is the past tense of wright, not wreak.
Edit: I am wrong. Wreak, wright, and wrought are all cognates, but none is the past participle of another. Wrought is the past participle of work when used as a transitive verb.
Cognates- distinct words with a shared etymology, whether they are in the same language or different languages. Ship (English) skiff (English), and Schiff (German) are all cognates.
Past participle- short easy version is regular past tense.
Transitive verb- an action taken on something. To throw a ball. To kill a man. Intransitive verbs are actions that don't need an object to affect. To run. To jump. Some verbs are always one or the other, some can be either. To speak, to speak the truth.
zcbtjwj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:06:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
would wrought iron be from the same place? Or is that from wringing? Thinking about it, that's anothr word with a very specific usage.
I'm of the opinion that we should be using "mucker," derived from amok by John Brunner in his novel Stand on Zanzibar, for the frequent shootings and attacks plastered across the evening news.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nervoz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok was believed to be a form of sudden violent psychosis that only affected people of the Malay Archipelago. Allegedly an amok would, after a particular event such as seeing blood, a violent act or something else traumatic, instantly enter a killing frenzy that could only be stopped if the amok was killed.
You could walk amok but you probably wouldn't get as many victims before getting stopped.
joestaff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok is a poison type Pokรฉmon that evolves from Grimer.
I never really thought abt what that episode title meant. TIL
zeekar ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:19:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't go by Star Trek original series episode names when looking for idiomatic American English of the 1960's; those titles were not exactly au courant. Most were deliberately poetic, and often references to something else - "The Conscience of the King" referencing Hamlet, "Who Mourns for Adonais?" referencing the Shelley poem. I don't think a 1960's denizen of the USA would come back from a mountain-climbing expedition in which they discovered that we live inside a giant rock and declaim "For The World Is Hollow And I Have Touched The Sky!".
Fair enough. There were also a lot of Greek mythology references in The Original Series, since that's what Trek's target audience was into at the time. I guess nerds gonna nerd in any decade.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:02:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Amok" is a Bahasa word describing a culture-bound psychiatrtic syndrome, in which the sufferer, usually a young man, goes on a surprise violent murderous rampage. The closest thing we have in our culture is the school shooting epidemic.
Beck2012 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:12:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a great drama/documentary about a soldier that went amok in 1987, it's called The Big Durian. The word is explained in it by one of the characters.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:15:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Bahasa" literally means "language". For example, Bahasa Inggeris means the English language. I think you mean Bahasa Melayu, or simply "Malay" in English.
zeekar ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:21:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In this case, Bahasa doesn't work, but in general it's not that uncommon that some tongue's word for "language" becomes its exonym among some of its neighbors.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:50:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:13:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Malaysia and we don't call it Bahasa, pukimak.
Hevelziv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:29:42 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
pukimak
I dont know why am I laughing when I read Malay swear words in a global thread.. babi betul
I never liked amok I preferred him when he was a grimer
Nichijo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Several years ago, a man ran amok in Honolulu and killed some people. At his trial, the defense offered that running amok was a cultural thing... the man was Filipino, and just "acting out" according to his cultural traditions.
There were lots of letters in the newspaper from Filipinos, saying that defense was a load of crap. The jury agreed, and found the guy guilty of murder.
am0x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My name is almost relevant!
IICVX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually use amok often enough that I kinda disagree with the title of the post.
Anyway, a better one is "bated", which is only ever found in "bated breath". It's why so many people on reddit write it as "baited", which makes no sense.
I announced " someone ran amok' in Dutch in a full train last summer. A seventy-year old man ran amok and we had to call police (he'd been hitting a footballsupporter)
I got a LOT of comments on my archaic use of language. But it seems I am a true trendsetter!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The young folk like to post "Big party tonight - gonna run amuck!" - thinking it means to muck around. Ah well, better that than if you were actually going to do some of the descriptions given for "amok".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fools promoting atoms for peace without knowing it.
I believe "gruntled" was never historically a word, and "disgruntled" only looks like it must be a derivative of "gruntled." I'm not opposed to using gruntled when the time is right, but if I'm remembering right it definitely is not bringing it back, it's making it a word in the first place
snoharm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, then the word was want is probably indisgruntled.
Gruntled in its modern sense of 'pleased' is a back-formation from disgruntled. The word did exist before that, it just meant the same thing as disgruntled. In this case, -dis is an intensifier rather than a negater.
zeekar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:23:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Disgruntled" is an unpaired word; "gruntled" is intentional wordplay, not a fossil.
SirBenet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:26:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My kids, since they were little, have always said "scroll" the window up or down, which is funny because a) they've only ever known cars with power windows and b) for the GUI terminology reference.
ianyboo ยท 453 points ยท Posted at 16:56:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Went to Best Buy one time and saw a little girl of about 3 walk up to a huge TV that was mounted low enough for her to reach easily. She confidently started doing multi touch gestures, when nothing happened she turned to her dad and said "this one is broken"
Melted my heart a little bit. Kids are awesome :)
Bamres ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 18:36:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
There was a video where these parents have their baby playing with an ipad then swapped it for a magazine and it was confused that it couldnt swipe
[deleted] ยท 220 points ยท Posted at 19:10:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Bamres ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 19:12:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was the last playboy with nudes
madhjsp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say 90% of the time if a screen is glossy/shiny/no antireflective coating it is touchscreen and if it is a matte screen it is not a touchscreen. At least for modern devices.
Nah, I wouldn't say 90% of the time. A lot of the average non-touch laptops tend to have glossy displays, not to mention the whole range of apple iMacs and laptops.
Oh man I forgot about iMacs. Different preferences I guess but IDK why anyone would want a non-touch glossy display when you could have matte. I remember I worked with a window to my back at work with an imac and I couldn't see anything but the cars outside the window reflecting on it.
They do add some anti-reflective coating nowadays. Still reflective, but miles better than all the cheap laptops/monitors out there. Anyway, glossy displays do have advantages, such as better contrast and no grain due to the coating. It's kind of a trade off either way, rather than one being superior in every way.
tuckels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:39 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You used to be able to get macbook pros with anti-glare filters (they had a silver bezel instead of black), but it interfered a lot with colour reproduction. The rMBPs have a laminated screen & have much less glare compared to the older ones due to lack of air gap.
hahagato ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:27:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only about half the screens I interact with regularly are touch, but I find myself reaching toward to my non-touch screens all the time, and have to stop myself.
like two years ago my mom bought me a tablet and that night i was pretty stoned and playing on my new tablet while watching cartoons on my computer and i wanted to pause the cartoons so i reached up and tapped the screen. Like a second later i realized why it didnt work and laughed about it then tapped the screen again forgetting that it wasn't a touch screen
I ran into this problem the other day at the gas station. The pump had a fancy new LCD screen in the center but the key pad was on the right side about a foot away hidden under the gas nozzle. I thought it might be a touch screen so I tried hitting my payment selection. Nope, not a touch screen. I felt like an idiot and hoped no one saw that.
ChaosCon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've had a hard time teaching my mom which screens are touch and which ones are lcd.
I expect this to get worse, not better. I have a Chromebook Pixel, which means it's a normal-ish laptop (no fancy detachable hinge, no way to make it into a proper tablet) that has a touchscreen for some reason. I never used to reach for the screen on Macbooks, but now I do.
To be honest, it's hard to tell sometimes when you don't know the model and details. I'm very technologically capable (I've never used that phrase before...) and I have to try it out sometimes to see if it's touch screen. I have a touch screen laptop, tablet, phone, and T.V. I also have regular non-touch screen versions of all 4. My friends get confused because I keep the screens clean on everything. I get a giggle in seeing fingerprints on non-touchscreens every now and then as I think about how ridiculous they look trying to figure out why their touch isn't registering.
My 3 year old will be watching a series on Netflix and between episodes, she's pressing on the damn TV screen to get the next one to start.
We tell her every time that it's not a touchscreen, but she keeps pressing and eventually the show comes on and she turns around with a big smug look on her face. She'll get it one day.
I'm 27 and it tried making a magazine picture bigger by pinch-zooming. In my defence, I was extremely tired and had just been on my tablet! My wife still won't let me live it down though.
Same. Sold my keyless push button car where the fob never left my pocket when I got my work truck and promptly locked the keys in it 3 times in 4 months. Now I have a spare in my toolbox.
I can't even count how many times I've locked my keys in my truck since I got this one...I put a magnetic box on the truck to save me. The one time I took the box off, I locked my keys in the truck 200 miles from the spare.
madhjsp ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:31:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No power steering? That sounds like a bitch to drive.
First World Problems: My window is frozen shut. Now I have to open my car door to order my extra large mocha latte in the drive thru at Starbucks! Ughhh!
trua ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But why would you want to open a window in that weather?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:18:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Off the top of my head:
Vent out moisture that's fogging up/frosting up the inside of the car (set heater to max.) Simply setting the heater to external air doesn't always work the best, especially when you have a bunch of people in the car with wet clothes and boots.
Roll down window -> snow/lightly caked on ice comes off without having to scrape it off.
Use drive through window at Tim Hortons (because it's frickin' Canada)
I take it you don't live in a place that gets real winter?
trua ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:56 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Finland, but I don't own a car and I rarely drive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, OK. Yeah, Finland probably has more "real" winter than where 50% of the Canadian population lives.
Yup. My car has crank windows in the back, and electric ones in the front. The front left one is broken.
Broduski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neon?
Kdings ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 18:16:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work trucks dont need those conviences. They are meant to be as cheap as possible because they get beaten up a lot anyway. Same with compact cars. No ac, cruise control, power windows etc can save a coupel thousand on the price.
jooloop ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 19:38:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The "no a/c" is basically a thing of the past in the U.S. IIRC, the only model available without a/c is the Dart, and those are pretty rare.
Edit: totally forgot about the Wrangler. And I think it's possible to get a Spark without A/C. Still, they usually have to be special ordered.
I had to special order my (brand new) Toyota from Japan in order to get it without AC, made me wait a month. The dealer could not believe I didn't want AC; said mine was the only new non existent AC they had ever sold.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:35:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know my mom avoided power windows for a long time because apparently if you crash into water the power windows wont roll down. No idea if this is true, or if people still hold this belief though.
The doors will still open if you're not fully submerged and you heave them hard enough. Also, when the car fills to a certain amount and the pressure equalises the doors can be opened again.
The real trick is not to drive your car into deep areas of water.
There's a Mythbusters episode on this. You wouldn't be able to roll down the windows with a crank or by normal car power. You'd need to hookup a car battery to just power the window thing in order to be able to roll it down.
Base models often don't have power anything. It saves weight and helps car companies claim that a specific model of vehicle gets a certain gas mileage. Sometimes you can't even get those base models at dealerships without specially ordering them.
I personally would always prefer a crank over an electric switch.
It's more reliable, less likely to malfunction, and much cheaper to repair if it does. And it's really not that difficult to crank a window. I mean, it saves like 1 second of light cranking?
Perhaps it's nice if you have kids in a mini-van, so that the driver can control all windows. Otherwise I think cranks are much more practical.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:31:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even in most compacts they are very rare (not even available in most anymore). Subcompacts often still have them available in base trims (cars like the Kia Rio and Ford Fiesta), but even so the take rate is very low since there is usually a cheap tech package available that adds power windows, locks, a key fob, and maybe a couple other things for just a few hundred bucks.
I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a passenger car left on the new car market with manual windows in 5 years. They hardly cost the manufacturer anything to make, plus with the take rate so low, it may make sense for them to drop it from an engineering and tooling standpoint (it's less parts they have to make for something that hardly sells).
They'll probably stick around in work trucks, vans, and Wranglers though. Many buyers of those vehicles don't care a bit about power windows (or other options), and the take rate on them is much higher with manual windows, locks, etc.
Jaysee09 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:55:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or if your bank account takes a while to transfer.
Kdings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What?
drumstyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Base model trucks still have em. Funny though, because the mechanism costs more than electric windows, they just want to make you pay for it.
Is that the PC way of saying niece and nephew? I really can't keep up with al the new terminology. That's how I know I crossed a generation gap and have been out of college long enough.
Edit: thanks everyone. I had a meeting recently where everyone said their names then listed their pronouns. I felt out of touch.
Vakz ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 17:55:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a new word, nor did it come up to be PC. It's just the word for a siblings children, like how siblings isn't the PC version of "brothers and sisters".
Not pc. Just briefer. Siblings instead of brothers and sisters, nibblings instead of nieces and nephews. It's not about being gender neutral as much as it is about being a handy all in one.
It's not for the sake of being PC and it'd certainly not new. It's mostly used in its plural form in lieu of saying "my nieces and nephews." Just like saying "my siblings" instead of "my brothers and sisters."
The person above said it was gender neutral. I assumed it was a way of being gender neutral about your niece and nephew since those are gender specific words. That fact that I had to explain that to you..,
Lol you're an idiot. If someone told you the word 'sibling' was gender neutral would your mind jump to it being 'PC'?
How in the hell could that be construed as a creation of the current PC movement? The fact that your mind jumped to that conclusion tells me you aren't so bright. It seems you don't understand the concept of what gender-neutral means.. cousin is a gender-neutral word. Sibling is a gender-neutral word. Grandparent is a gender-neutral word.
And the rather obvious comparison to sibling, which differs from nibling by one letter, didn't cross that person's mind. They jumped immediately to PC hate.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was probably just a silly knee jerk reaction to hearing 'gender neutral' because there are a lot of idiots who are completely obsessed with making everything gender neutral because mentioning specific genders bothers them or something.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:33:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fact that you didn't just look up the meaning of the fucking word when you're already on the goddamn internetโฆ
Well i exaggerated for effect, but even if they do break it's after 12 to 15 years of abuse and you can always go to Autozone and clip a new one on in a half hour. Electric window broke? That'll be $300, please.
Key word "I". For most people, a door disassembly is quite intimidating, while replacing a broken crank arm is simple enough for most amateurs.
pit_trap ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:16:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The first time I disassembled a door to my car was to replace a smashed window. I didn't have much of a clue what I was doing (in the age before YouTube and no repair experience), and I broke pretty much all the clips to the panel and couldn't get the damned thing back on.
I wound up driving that car around with no interior panel until I junked it less than a year later. Today I use a repair manual and reference as much as I can online and as it turns out many repair jobs aren't very difficult at all. Makes me look back at my teenaged self and shake my head!
If you have a place to work on your car, the time and patience to buy parts, and the skill to do the actual work. For your average apartment-dweller with no garage or driveway, no workspace, and a need to drive their car every single day without fail - maybe not so much.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Old, beat-up hooptie where the crank windows were getting stiff and difficult to roll down.
Was putting some muscle into turning the handle when the knob snapped clean off.
Of course, of all the places it could go it shot out the 4" gap I'd just managed to open in the window and landed somewhere on the expressway, never to be seen again.
I don't have to worry about software glitches causing my car to accelerate past the speed of sound when the gas pedal is connected to the throttle valve by an unbent clothes hangar.
Y'all is spreading. It's filling the grammatical niche of 2nd Person Plural than English generally lacks.
And it's a whole lot better than "yous guys".
jtb3566 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:21:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Y'all is such a useful word. I hate when people yell at me that it's not a word. You know what it means and it completes my sentence perfectly without the need for awkward wording.
rasori ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:39:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Likely unnecessarily formal sounding given the context.
jtb3566 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mostly it's just weird to me that English doesn't have a singular word to express 'you all' like most other languages, so the contraction feels better to me.
hahaha. that's really unfortunate. some people use different words for tรบ; they say vos instead.
also some people pronounce verbs differently depending on the geographical location (they accent different syllables)
jtb3566 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:43 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I guess I really only know German and french
Dev-Lyn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:06:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i started using it, and i'm way up in Canada. Mostly only typing it out though.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:25:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm piggybacking off your comment to say this:
"Y'all" is filling the gap of a 2nd person plural pronoun in English that used to exist just as the word "you". "You" (or ye) was plural, while "thou" was singular. This is simplified a bit as these words weren't always pronounced the same as they are now back when they still had this singular/plural distinction.
Then the French-speaking Normans invaded and with them they brought the idea of using the plural form of pronouns as a more respectful singular pronoun. So now we had "thou" (informal singular) and "you" (plural or formal singular). And eventually "thou" stopped being used (by most English speakers, but there's still populations that use it as well as plural "ye"), and "you" became solely singular.
Historically, 'you' is itself plural. 'Thou' is the English second person singular. English doesn't lack pronouns as much as it decided it didn't need them. It's roughly equivalent to the way French people use 'tu' as a singular, informal pronoun and 'vous' as a plural or formal pronoun. But because people only see 'thou' in old books and things they assume it's a more formal or proper way of talking.
I'm also a fan of y'all's when you need to disambiguate whether you're referring to a possession of, say, the individual you're emailing vs. the group they're with (e.g. "we can bring y'all's bags with us).
When I took German in high school, my teacher used "y'all" for this purpose, to help in distinguishing the German equivalents. It was a little weird to hear him say "y'all" with a rather strong German accent.
paiute ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:38:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter, raised on CDs of course, was playing an old vinyl album on an old turntable. She liked the tunes, so we told her to turn it over and listen to the other side. She says incredulously, 'There's another side?'
On April Fools Microsoft should activate the manual crank scrolling. Where you need to mouse in circles on the scroll bar. If you try to page up and down, it just locks the screen (like a kid pressing the door lock button, when there is no window control)
But windows cranks still exist in the rear doors of many small cars or in commercial vehicles. Put those brats in a budget van and the little bitches will soon learn how to roll down a window.
I've got a newish 5 door car, and the back seat windows are roll ups. It's a Nissan Micra. Have they just not been in more than one car?
Garek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They still make cars with roll up windows, they're just cheap. Poor kids will still now what rolling up your window means.
thumpas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 17 and I have two friends with manual locks and windows in their cars. I get that most people don't, but it seems like more people should at least be aware of it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My parents used to have a car with a crank until a few years ago.
Why don't more people like the word nibling? It accurately describes a large group of nieces and nephews. It is shorter to write, it is gender neutral, and can be used for pregnancies where the gender of the baby is unknown. It can also be singular or made plural.
I don't think I've ever seen the word 'nibling' used in actual context for its purpose before (as opposed to people merely pointing out that it's a word). A piece of your soul may have died, but you just lighted up a part of mine.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They should come hang out with my family. We're so broke our car still has roll up windows.
akharon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We don't, "dial," phone numbers anymore, we key them in. We don't, "hang up," on people, we disconnect calls. However, I think those terms will outlive us, even the symbols for telephones will continue on, even though the people no longer recognize the symbol as a being the receiver. One day someone will make a post, "what does the telephone symbol represent?"
That's not what OP is talking about with fossil words.
You've given a good example of something similar - an expression that used to make literal sense but now doesn't because of changing technology.
But OP is talking about single words that used to be common and now have pretty much died out, but that happen to live on only as a part of common expressions.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The forgotten struggle of not being able to roll the passenger window down.
I've always found it odd when people say that "a piece of their soul died" when they see the next generation have no need for knowledge of something from their generation. Time marches on, they don't need to know it, and that is a beautiful thing in and of itself. There will come a day that every single one of us alive today won't be here anymore, and I'd like to believe that the world will be a very different, and better place at that time.
yoguy2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone!
Jstaver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many new toyota trucks still have crank windows... It's just different kinds of cars
qoou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! Same thing happened to me. I rented a U-Haul and it had crank Windows. Told my son to roll up the window. He couldn't figure out how.
That's cheating. You Kansas use a straight-up homophone.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:22 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ohio -nly wanted to say I agree.
royalobi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can I just say that I spent several minutes reading through this joke with variations of timing and accent until I found the right tone that made the joke work. And then I felt really bad about having done that. :|
jaysalos ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 20:02:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not rocket appliances
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:22:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Survival of the fitness, bud.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:09 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya see the problem is really quite clear sir/ma'am. We lost our grip on the barbarians the minute we allowed that Ghandi fellow to lead India to independence. It was reasonable at the time as he had the upper hand with an arsenal of nuclear weapons and a trigger happy attitude. With Ghandi gone, these nukes are no longer relevant. We can now subdue the remaining archaic tribes with little resistance. It was simply a waiting game; we have been waiting patiently. The time to strike is now.
slowmoon ยท 106 points ยท Posted at 16:20:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
No, I think you're both right. You can use "bygone era" or "bygone time." You can use it to refer to any bygone period. You can talk about a bygone romance. Bygone love, if you will. Bygone, as an adjective is still perfectly cromulent. But bygone as a noun only exists in that one phrase. No one would ever say "Why do you keep bringing up bygones?" It's fossilized as a noun but still in use meaning "former" as an adjective (if a bit literary).
Since it is generally obsolete, but remains in use because of an idiom (or perhaps two), it's not in everyday use, and is a fossil word, just like the headline says.
Thaaaaank you. I put 'champing at the bit' in a song and got several journalists pointing it out and chortling in interviews, saying it should be chomping. Chomping sounds fucking terrible
(of a horse) make a noisy biting or chewing action.
2.fret impatiently.
Considering the 'bit' is what goes in a horses mouth, and the phrase refers to how horses will chew on their bit while eager, I can't help but think that these words are in fact the same word. Any horse that is champing at its bit is also chomping on it. "Chomping at the bit" is a perfectly reasonable metaphor, and a perfectly reasonable phrase, and it sounds fine if you aren't an elitist dick.
Jokes on you, I already knew. I knew when I was a young boy learning to ride and keep a horse. I knew from being an educated person who went to a school and could read. I knew back in 2011 when My Little Pony was all the rage with the kids. I knew yesterday, before this post.
How about maybe if you disagree you should address the actual point being made, instead of casting aspersions. The fancy term for what you did was ad hominem, and it should be beneath you.
Which is why people that complain about it are actually a bit thick and missing the point of an idiom actually having a meaning. See also: 'Card shark' vs 'card sharp', where the latter word has the exact same meaning (outside of the context of marine animals).
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:02 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. Well what do you know. TIL that my English teacher was emphatically wrong. Interesting. He had a solid reason for it being reap though. Gaining vengeance is like reaping a reward.
BIG-DATA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:35:53 on January 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You dont really gain vengeance, you exact it. And think about it, you wouldnt say youre 'gaining revenge'.
But seriously, its an act, you perform it. And even if that is grammatically correct, when read out of context its ambiguous weather gaining vengeance means you're on the giving or receiving end of it. dont know why i said that, its not ambiguous, obviously youre not on the receiving end of it.
edit: on the other hand people say "i will have my revenge" so theres a good chance i was wrong about all that^
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'wrought' doesn't come from 'wreak', it is literally 'worked'; but because it doesn't look much like 'work' anymore, English speakers reformed the past participle as 'worked'.
From Proto-Germanic *wurkijanan, past participle *wurhtaz = OE wyrcan, pp worht = E 'work', pp 'wrought' with metathesis; compare 'wright', "worker", from *wurhtijวญ.
'wreak' on the other hand, originally meant "to pursue, persecute", that is, what you do to bad people.
Exactly. Wrought iron is literally "worked iron", or iron that has been worked into its present state. It's similar to the word "tooled" in this case, stating what has been done to it, rather than the act of doing it. Work in this case is like a work of art, or a masterwork. The phrase "what hell hath god wrought" would roughly translate today as "what hell has god made".
Xaethon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:28:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's incorrect. 'Wreak' does not mean the same as 'work'. Wreaking is bringing about something undesirable, revenge and punishment.
Just because the only remaining extant use in the living language is 'havoc' doesn't mean that all uses ever were. Like arguing that 'destroy' is always a bad thing, ignoring e.g. 'destroy evil'.
Xaethon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still didn't have the meaning of 'to work' though.
Unrelated but I had a psych professor who would always say wreck havoc, which really annoyed me. She said other phrases wrong too but I can't remember off the top of my head, I would say she was trolling but she was like 50 years old and really stubborn.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your mom.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
in addition to what others have said, lets not forget the past tense gets used a bit still. wrought. The works my hands have wrought. They wrought desttruction on europe. etc...
You realize that this means exactly the same fucking thing as what he said, right? It's like he said "at least two people" and you responded "wrong, it should be 'more than one person.'"
"Wend" had similar meaning as "go" at that time. "Go" had a past tense of "goed". Then their present and past merged into the form they are today in a process called "suppletion".
Similar with the verb "to be". English used to have "besan", "wesan", and "gesan". One of these meant permanence and the others temporary (like "ser" and "estar" in Spanish). Eventually, there was a suppletion; besan provided the base "be", wesan gave "were" and "was", and gesan became "am".
Ixidane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You guys are opening new doors into etymology that I never knew existed.
Ever wonder about "Thing"? The super useful word for a generic object? It originally meant "assembly", and then came to refer to the subjects of discussion of that assembly. Then then broadened to refer to objects in general.
You had me up to here. Seriously, wtf? The rest of those make sense, and then this. Did "am" come from some other origin and get spliced in somehow or what?
Isn't that what the other user said though? He said "wend" used to be the present tense corresponding to "went", you seem to be saying that "went" is indeed the past tense of "wend", but you say he's got it backwards.
Plecboy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Wenden" is still a common verb in German meaning "to turn".
ffryd ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:29:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The go-wend merger is really interesting. What is especially fascinating is that similar things have happened in other languages to the "go" verb, e.g. Italian 'andare' which is a merger of two roots, "and-" and "v-".
Edmonta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In my middle school art class I used the work "nooks" and my teacher laughed at me because she thought I made it up. It then became the joke in the class to use the word "nook" to describe any dents or cracks. Thus, they were correctly using a real word which they thought was a made up word. It was weird.
That same teacher also thought Columbus landed in America in 1692.
kryses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard and used cranny before outside the idiom. I'm from Appalachia, though, if that means anything.
zcbtjwj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:56 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, we have some in out house. It looks a bit like there used to be a door through the wall which was then blocked in, but I think they're just stylistic in our case.
bafta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
slowmoon ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 16:02:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I would argue that it doesn't. Vestigial means that something serves no purpose anymore. Since "Running amok" definitely doesn't work without amok, amok is still serving a purpose in the English language.
A fossil is evidence of something that used to be living but now is just a lifeless, immobile shadow. A footprint. A trace. A clue.
Vestigial structures still preform a role, but it is a much smaller role that usually isn't 100% necessary. We don't need the phrase "running amok" but because we use it the word "amok" is still here but without it's original use. That is exactly like a vestigial structure.
tyr02 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:30:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vestigial structures have lost all or most of their original function but often develop a secondary function in populations, so i think it does fit better
zcbtjwj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
except it is still performing its original function, just in a vy specific situation
These are examples of the complete opposite. Words that still retain their primary purpose and meaning but have lost all use otherwise.
Balmarog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:05:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Vestigial" maybe?
Siarles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What alternative would you suggest?
cynic79 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:36:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turpitude.
monarc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd go with organelle. According to the endosymbiotic theory, cellular components such as mitochondria or chloroplasts used to be distinct organisms, but evolved into sub-cellular components that no longer retain the machinery to survive on their own.
dpenton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it time to use a colorful metaphor?
rush22 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:41:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No it doesn't really make sense
tehbored ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:08:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It makes perfect sense. The idiom preserves the word the way the way that the surrounding sediment preserves a fossil.
You weren't completely wrong, it's origins are from Malay and it's spelled and enunciated mengamuk in that language. I don't bother with the English spelling.
Another fun factoid Malay word is orangutans which is actually directly translated to people of the forest.
maharito ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:34:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Specifically, it's a person following this practice. They're ascetics, and they've found odd ways of embracing life. Including dancing around in circles.
People just collapsed "devil" into the meaning of "dervish" because no one else knew what the hell it meant either. So it's not really a fossil word...maybe a zombie word?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also an Irish folk band.
Not really relevant, I just like to contribute.
palmerry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:01:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like my dervishes whirled. Especially my dervished eggs.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew I had heard of a 'whirling dervish' before, so I looked it up and it's the same thing as you said. I always assumed it was a cake or dessert of some kind.
Wow, that totally destroys the imagery of forcing the guilty party to eat a big bowl of shit pudding
[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 16:59:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, 'deserts' is a kind of uncommon term which means 'what you deserve.' According to the definition, 'just deserts' really means 'what you justly deserve'
mbm66 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:30:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, and anyone who studied Hamlet in high school should be familiar with it. It's one of my favourite bits of dialogue from the play:
HAMLET
Good my lord, will you see the players well
bestowed? Do you hear, let them be well used; for
they are the abstract and brief chronicles of the
time: after your death you were better have a bad
epitaph than their ill report while you live.
LORD POLONIUS
My lord, I will use them according to their desert.
HAMLET
God's bodykins, man, much better: **use every man
after his desert, and who should 'scape whipping?**
Use them after your own honour and dignity: the less
they deserve, the more merit is in your bounty.
maharito ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:32:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just say he'll get what's coming to him and leave it at that.
Wow, I was all ready to jump on the above poster for thinking it was "desserts" but it turns out I didn't understand the phrase either.
I thought it was based on "to desert," as in "to abandon" somebody, and that's how it came with the meaning of getting what you deserve -- desertion of you by others.
Sorry, you're still wrong. "Deserts" is not the plural of "deserve." "Deserve" is already a plural verb, and "deserts" is a noun. "Deserts" is, predictably, the plural of "desert," but it's more of an amorphous noun meaning "what one deserves."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:40 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's cognate with deserter or desertion, so it uses that spelling.
This. "Ulterior" means something isn't clear, ("Ulterior purposes" would be non-obvious purposes, "Ulterior motives" would be someone's motives you don't know about, "Ulterior causes" would be something you don't know that caused something else, etc.), and Dervish is a perfectly fine stand-alone noun.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:31 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I am kind of confused as to what the debate here is. I thought 'ulterior' always meant 'beyond' or 'concealed', which seems consistent with your first post. But then you say it just means additional.
Could "Akimbo" be an example of a resurrected word? It gets used as a general adjective, but its usual meaning directly references or is derived from the idiom "Arms akimbo".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:26 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know but it's an interesting thought.
BrentTH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:18 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I almost convinced my friend to name his band Dicks Akimbo.
Another would be "on tenterhooks" which is usually misuses tender for tenter. Tenter hooks were used in the olde days of making woolen cloth where it was stretched out on a frame held by the hooks as part of the finishing process. The definition is; in a state of suspense or agitation because of uncertainty about a future event.
Figment just means a small part of some greater ideological or metaphysical thought. Like a figment of time, or a figment of ones imaginarium constabularium
No offense, but if we decide what is fossilized based on the knowledge of some random youth, we'll be removing the bulk of the language. Literature would be written at the level of stilted teen romance novels or children's books. Technical documentation would all be like the Up Goer Five.
There are about a million words in the English language. A typical 20 year old English speaker might know 20,000. You're very young and I doubt you've even touched the rather substantial list that constitutes great English literature, much less become embroiled in a profession that might regularly use words that seem archane, like "instantiate" or "disintermediation."
Title-text: Another thing that is a bad problem is if you're flying toward space and the parts start to fall off your space car in the wrong order. If that happens, it means you won't go to space today, or maybe ever.
Hohohoho I'm substantively emulsified by the laceration of your jive-dialect and derring-do in the face of consternation from sapient sentients hailing forthwith multitudinous verisimilitudes that do abscond the verbal palette.
jnh14 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:52:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a ride at Disney World Orlando where a purple dinosaur named Figment follows your little roller coaster cart around on this track showing you all the things you can imagine. It's a sweet ride.
Ossalot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use that all the time. If a fruit says something odd, you have to figure out what the fig meant.
Eggnog. Not egg nog. It's functionally a single word. Nog never meant anything, according to wikipedia is could have derived from a type of cup named a noggin.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:57:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gotten has survived in US English but has died out in British English except in the phrase ill gotten gains.
vadkert ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:58:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just deserts is a good one, too.
Many people will mistakenly use the word 'dessert' since the pronunciation is closer to the way 'desert' is used in 'just desert.'
To be clear: Desert (pronounced DEZ-urt) is the hostile, arid, often sandy type of geography. And dessert (de-ZURT) is the tasty, scrumptious, often cakey type of food. In the phrase 'just deserts' the word is spelled the same as desert, but pronounced like dessert.
Why? It's a separate word entirely. A desert in this context is something someone deserves or is fitting. Think of the word deserve. This is the noun equivalent. You deserve your deserts, and the emphasis on the second syllable is preserved. Just say 'deserve' but chop off the 've' and add a 't.'
This makes the phrase make a ton more sense. You've received justice and what you deserved. You got your just deserts.
_DOA_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:28:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A couple of these don't really fit. "Wreak" is the first that comes to mind. You can "wreak havoc", (the idiom wreak is supposedly dependent on) but you can also wreak vengeance, among other possible "wreakings."
blufox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yes, and there is the wreaking ball, and ship wreak.
That's the whole reason they're preserved--because they're in common use. Some other examples: "merry" in "merry Christmas," and arguably "belated" in "happy belated birthday."
Lol same I was reading through the list thinking the same thing. No wonder every one says I have a weird way of putting things. Were you an avid reader as a child?
Gh0st1y ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:36:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah avid as fuck. I loved (and still love) books.
Do you mean that you use the sayings or that you use the specific rare words by themselves? Because of you're claiming the former, then that's the whole point. They are rare, practically obsolete words that live on only in common sayings.
Gh0st1y ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:12 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, I'm saying that I use them in normal conversation. For the reasons you outlined, I didn't mean that I use the idioms.
nav0n0d ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think everyone this in their own lives. I call the Walmart plaza near where I used to live the 'Wolco's Plaza' even though Wolco as a company hasn't existed in a couple decades.
Yeah I thought it came from Indonesia or Malayasia when the locals used to get shitfaced on some kind of drug and rampaged around, "amok" was the bastardised version of the word they used to describe that.
mbm66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
simplulo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"To pay in kind"
blufox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which one? Kind is still used as in similar kinds of words.
simplulo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:14 on February 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In "to pay in kind", "kind" means "cattle", as in to pay without money.
blufox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:39 on February 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought kind was related to kin and kindred as in similar type. So pay in kind meant giving back some thing of similar nature, (barter). Any attestation of the meaning of kind as cattle?
simplulo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:26 on February 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I remember my Bill Bryson correctly, another example (not included on the list) is the word "neck" (meaning a division of forest) preserved in the phrase "neck of the woods."
Amok isn't a fossil word. Being amok is a DSM-V recognized culture - bound syndrom. I think it's Asian in origin and describes a psychotic episode which manifests incredibly violent behavior.
Reminds me of a time in high school when I told my friend to try and be couth when we were going to my grandparents'. They said couth isn't a word and that "uncouth" is not, in fact, the antonym to the word couth. We argued for something like ten minutes.
carl2k1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trivia - Amok is a tagalog/malay word. Amok or juramentado is described as going into a killing rampage usually done by Filipino muslim fighters vs enemy soldiers in the south. American soldiers had a hard time stopping these Muslim fighters that they invented a bigger caliber bullet, the .45 caliber. Amok is still in the Philippine vocabolary
Laurel wreath used to be given to winners - say placed on the head during the award ceremony at the olympics. So laurels = past accomplishments. Resting on your laurels means you aren't trying hard anymore, you're just getting by because you won in the past.
jnh14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wtf was more rhetorical, but yes. Like [edit; the late*] Bruce Jenner when he gloated every other week about how he was an 'Olympic gold winner'....
Ya, that's a great example because it's nearly literal.
PlazaOne ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:15:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's where great champions at sporting events were awarded a crown to wear upon their head, made from intertwined leaves of the laurel shrub. Some champions would go back and continue to develop their skill, ready to return and defend their title. Other champions would believe they had achieved their pinnacle and no longer needed to train as hard. Even in ancient times it was recognised that once you got to the top of any discipline, you needed to work hard to stay on top. Those who relaxed, resting upon having gained their initial laurels, were considered unlikely to gain further trophies.
I was interviewed once on a chat show, and the other guest was an Olympic gold medal winner. As she was preparing her props in the green room I noticed her wreath, from Athens, so I asked her "Do you ever rest on that?" She gave me an empty and contemptuous look.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're leaves. They use them to make a crown that you wear when you've done something good. You still see recent graduates walking around wearing them in Italy.
Aka bay leaves.
zcbtjwj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bay and laurel are different plants.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
zcbtjwj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, TIL.
This is going sound very reminiscent of a certain conversation but in the UK a bay tree is the one you linked and a laurel is probably this one
Laurel is the family name, which is where the confusion comes from.
And it seems you are right, the wreathes were made of bay leaves.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think it's we Brits messing it up. Like the bird the Yanks call a robin, which resembles one but is actually nothing of the sort.
Yes. I've heard of people "twiddling the knobs" on a control panel.
Also, it still exists in the related phrase "bit twiddling" which are low-level software "tricks" people use to perform certain operations faster. (Google for various cool examples.)
Sharwdry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the last three months I've probably used twiddle about 3 times a day every day because it's really common in specific areas of engineering - twiddle bits etc. I use twiddle almost as often as I speak twaddle.
Palpable. The tension in the room was palpable. The people there were able to palp it.
mbm66 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:36:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's used in medicine - to palpate something is to feel it by touch.
Bakkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very common in medicine and veterinary stuff. It means to be able to feel something by the examiner. Every time the doc checks your swollen glands under your jaw, he is palpating them.
I argue spick is used quite often in the states, due to the ugliness of racism. Though if it is just the meaning that is fossilized, why did they leave kit off of the list... and caboodle doesn't exist outside of the idiom. I don't have a problem with the whole kit and caboodle, but fuck caboodle.
Bakkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When used as an ethnic slur, irt is spelled spic.
When used as an idiom meaning clean and neat it is Spic and Span, also the name of a popular cleaning powder product in the US.
Merriam Webster doesn't agree with your very definitive spelling of an ethnic slur, but what do they know. Not too sure if you are familiar with the crowd that uses these words. They usually aren't too keen on spelling. Spend 5 minutes and see how people use it. Also though there is not an accurate etymology for the word. Most feel it came from an early print of spik.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An example for a phrase is 'in point' (relevant), which is retained in the larger phrases 'case in point' (also 'case on point' in the legal context) and 'in point of fact', but is not otherwise used outside of a legal context.
Except now the internet at large says "on point" when they mean "good" in any context.
But mantle in the context is referring to the article of clothing. Mantle is still in use with several different meanings as a noun, but as a verb I don't think so.
JayneLut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's more a prefix but were now only exists in the word werewolf. It meant man (as into highlight someone was male, man itself was originally gender neutral).
Just deserts. We don't use 'desert' to mean 'to deserve' anymore and most people actually spell it 'just desserts' now because the right way to spell it doesn't make much sense... not that desserts does either.
I've always had this idea. That there are certain words that only exists in phrases and you never hear them otherwise. Glad my suspicions were codified
The article claims that "squib" is a fossil word in the expression "damp squib".
I know what "squib" means (a small explosive, not a wizard-born who can't do magic) and have heard it used. I have never heard the phrase "damp squib" before.
spacenb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a French Canadian expression going like "foquer le chien", "foquer" being a marine term for "to lose" and "le chien" being the marine designation for the first boat of a line of boats, the one giving the lead. However since we have for the most part forgotten marine speak most of us think it means to "fuck (or confuse) the dog".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Run amok, it's used in Germany for code I case of a shooting it's goes "Mrs.koma is coming" til I believe it was used once in 90 during some shooting
Sirmalta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the best TIL all week.
pianoguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok is a Danish word, we left our mark!
zeekar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bated, as in "wait with bated breath", although the derived term "abate" remains in nonidiom-specific use
This is not a dead word because "abated" exists, so "bated" still makes sense too? I don't know how to explain it. But while I would never use the verb "bate" outside of "bated breath", the verb "abate" gives me enough information to know what it means... something stops, versus being stopped by something.
gymell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually I use "bate" quite often. I volunteer with raptors and bate specifically means when they try to fly off your fist or the perch (happens pretty often.)
diumao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about stave? There's only one use of the word I can think of and it's used in the playoffs when a team can be eliminated if they lose their next game e.g. staving off elimination
I don't understand their point about merchant navy. It's a commercial fleet, and a navy is a fleet, yet they say the sense of "navy" in this phrase is no longer used. What am I missing?
Amok(as in a mass shooting or killing or any other sort of violent rampage) is actually still used in the Germans language, I'm not sure however whig language it originally came from
Kignak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I use amok all the time in Pokemon. It's better than Grimer.
There's one that's on the tip of my tongue, I think it does with death and means something akin to a warmonger. The more I think about, the more I get annoyed that I can't remember what it is.
The word amok never was common place in English. Although having Indonesian family I was accused of running amuk rather often as a child.
In Malay it has never lost its prevalence.
I use the word as often as situations permit.
servo386 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:10:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok is actually a SE asian term for a particular "hysteria" that seems to only occur in that particular region. It refers to a bout of madness where a man thinks that his penis has become sentient and sprouted legs and run off. So he goes chasing after his penis, or "running amok".
No, it isn't. Amok is just an indiscriminately homicidal mental state comparable to that of any other spree killer. Men (and it's always men for some reason) who "run amok" would not really be punished for it if they survived, since it was viewed as something out of their control. Realistically speaking, not many would actually survive; they would be killed in self-defense or commit suicide immediately after. Again, pretty much exactly like some random school shooter.
It's obsolete in the sense that it's not productive outside of a fixed phrase. We don't *stroll amok, *act amok, *sprint amok, etc. Its use is restricted to a single phrase, and if not for that phrase, it would be obsolete. For example, the sense of maid as single woman is obsolete, except in the phrase old maid. The use of full as an intensifier like very is obsolete in most varieties of English except in full well.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:53 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I maintain that for something to be obsolete in the linguistic sense, it must have had some other use at some point.
If you want to go against the professional linguists that invented the term, so be it. But things can be born fossils, as the above link points out for tarnation.
I also strongly contest "maid" being considered obsolete. Eight maids a milking, Minute Maid, Maid in Manhattan, and what are you going to call anyone who's wearing a maid costume or maids in movies/books. Just because it is not a commonly used word for professions of today does not make it uncommon or obsolete as a word. It isn't a word that has lost its meaning outside of "old maid."
Please re-read my comment. I talked about a sense of maid, not the word maid itself, just liked I talked about a sense of full, not the word full itself. This is like what was described in the second paragraph of the OP's link.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:37 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 14:46:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Siarles ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:37:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe in the context of telephones, but we still use it for physically hanging things on other things. The individual words are nowhere near fossilized too.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea what this means. I use the word amok from time to time which makes this even more confusing.
phil035 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:26:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still use a fair few of these words and I use "running amok" to discribe how my daughter lives her life atleast twice a week, as does a lot of people I know as well as strangers in my area.... list must have been written by americans
I think you might have missed the definition of a fossil word, or even the words in the title. "Running amok" or "run amok" is an idiom still in common use, but the word "amok" is not really used outside of this idiom, so the example you gave is actually a textbook usage of a fossil word in an idiom.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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atla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, "shabby" is (at least in my experience) often used outside of that phrase. Like, "there was a shabby-looking shirt hung up on the line", or "Phil was looking rather shabby today." Something like that.
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 17:22:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Sunrise , Sunset . The sun isn't the thing that is moving.. but as Carl Sagan said "Timmy, be home before the earth has rotated so much as to completely occult the sun."
Also "Sunset" is based on the old Egyptian god of Shadows and Darkness "Set".
Edit: Well, maybe my thoughts on the origin of Set were misguided, but the sun isn't rising or setting regardless of that. Downvote me to hell, but those words are both based on old egocentric beliefs.
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Honk_If_Top_Comment ยท 3686 points ยท Posted at 13:44:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes moral turpitude.
Classic phrase. I use it all the turpitude.
umm_umm_ ยท 720 points ยท Posted at 16:13:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let me offer you my...contrafibularities.
lawrencejuliano ยท 133 points ยท Posted at 18:14:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am anaspeptic, frasmotic, even compunctuous to have caused such pericombobulation.
Bladelink ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 18:29:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll be damned if it isn't at least fun to say.
Stef-fa-fa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:45:49 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Took me two reads just to figure out how many syllables there were.
funkadunkalunk ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 18:54:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SAUSAGE?!
Sturdge666 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 19:15:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was once a lovely little sausage named Baldrick, and he lived happily ever after.
kliff0rd ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:44:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Truly the man's magnificent octopus.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:30:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey! This turnip looks just like a thingie!
SuddenlyFrogs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:11:15 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cold is God's way of telling us to burn more Catholics!
verbutten ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:13:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SAUSAAAAGE?!?
funkadunkalunk ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:15:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MNNNGGREEBLASTEYES.
rasouddress ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:56:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read as "antiseptic." Much confusion ensued.
leetfire666 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:24:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I will always upvote black adder references
wiseoldtabbycat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:03:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pericombobulation is too fine a word to be obsolete
Harry101UK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bob.
cbftw ยท 262 points ยท Posted at 16:25:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Damn...
starts writing in his dictionary
arlenroy ยท 144 points ยท Posted at 17:24:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The question I have, aren't there fossil phrases as well? Living High On The Hog. Derived from working poor in the late 1800s-early 1900s, meaning you can afford to pay for quality cuts of pork on the top end. Not fatty mixes from the lower end. A Buck Snort. Used as slang for a measurement, food or drink. A very minuscule amount, a teaspoon. "Add a Buck Snort of sugar to sweeten it." Blowing Smoke. When you're lying or trying to make the situation appear not that bad. Came from medical professionals thinking blowing tobacco smoke up ones rectum to combat drowning. Injection of a stimulant into the anal cavity, it never was proven to work however it appeared that they were trying at least. "Quit blowing smoke up my ass".
These are all strictly from my Grandma, what I recall.
post_modern ยท 151 points ยท Posted at 17:43:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, they're just idioms.
ToKe86 ยท 163 points ยท Posted at 18:15:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're an idiom.
Auntie_Abortion ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 20:15:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I resemble that remark!
Puskarich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he prefers Mark Jr.
BrazenNormalcy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're idiumer.
Anouther ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:27:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NAH AH! SHUT UP, IDIOM!
Drink-my-koolaid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:47:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You kids fight nice or you're all gonna get grounded!
WhoDknee ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:28:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean they're all going to be turpituted!
Uncreativechick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, well, your mom is an idiom!
sthefuckingbest ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:01:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Daaaaaaaaam!
Voice_Box_1 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your mom is an idiom.
ifeelwitty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:48:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to the residents of Buck Snort, Tennessee.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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ifeelwitty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And a fireworks stand, I think?
Nichijo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:11:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OK, "fossil idioms", professor.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't mean they aren't also "fossil phrases".
Tsugua354 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
... fossil idioms?
basaltgranite ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 19:51:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Loose canon. A few tons of metal rolling free on a wooden ship could crush and kill you, or go right through the hull, sink the ship, and kill everyone. In rough seas, a canon that wasn't tied down was a major emergency that could destroy the whole enterprise.
Edit: Cannon/canon/caรฑรณn. Got it. Thank you.
arlenroy ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 19:57:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know you're spot on, I just never really thought about it. A loose cannon can really cause damage and isn't just a term for a buddy cop movie.
LarsOfTheMohican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lose cannon is capable of causing as much damage to your own ship as that of the enemy
WWJLPD ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 21:18:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean despite its problems with retconning some stuff from TOS and losing itself in season 2-3, Enterprise made some nice additions to the canon. I'd hardly say it destroyed anything.
Ganjisseur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bioshock 2 though? Not canon.
mrlint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:16 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya know what else will destroy the whole enterprise.. A warp core beech... No one wants that
somebuddysbuddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought he was going EU on us there
ILoveCavorting ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:36:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know you've gone full loose canon when Skippy the Jedi Droid comes into existence.
justja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, now I need to rewrite my fanfic.
blakester731 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:39:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just read "A Fight with a Cannon" by Victor Hugo. Yeah, it wasn't good when one of those brass monsters got loose.
giveitago ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:27:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cannon. Loose canon is what describes that awful new Star Wars movie.
pdrocker1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:18:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/1R7XXkJ.png
TitaniumDragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to go with "Bible fanfiction".
hiddeninja999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe it's derived from the cannon not being tied down before firing, because obviously then the recoil would cause havoc.
redrhyski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cannon. Canon is something else, like "official".
OrphanBach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An authentic 18th-century loose canon.
Spookymonster ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:38:05 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While this is a proper example of an idiom, it doesn't incorporate any fossil words, as both 'loose' and 'cannon' are still in regular use.
basaltgranite ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:01:13 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was a response to a comment about fossil phrases... .
Spookymonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:57 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough. Thanks for explaining.
Joabyjojo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:53:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My dad uses the phrase blowing smoke still, and I'm pretty sure he's not an old timey surgeon.
Baron_Von_Badass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I regularly use the phrase 'blowing smoke' to describe attempts to mislead, especially by public officials or corporate spokespeople.
Joabyjojo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dad?
Baron_Von_Badass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:05 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, I'm actually a surgeon from 1880. Time travel sure is the cat's pajamas.
Nichijo ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:09:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, and the fossilization process is accelerating. You and your grandchildren will not be able to communicate.
diMario ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 18:19:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless they're born backwards compatible.
dustywayfarer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:29:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would hate to meet someone speaking VB.
rieh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or worse, someone speaking TI-BASIC.
:lbl A
:disp "bro do you even lift (1 for yes, 0 for no)"
:
:input L
:if L=0
:goto A
:else
:end
TinyFoxFairyGirl ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:48:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me and my grand children are both USB Type C compatible
diMario ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:03:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, so you plug both ways? Fascinating...
TinyFoxFairyGirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:45:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[Lenny face]
OMGimaDONKEY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
monsanto isn't programing the food to allow for that
diMario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean to say Brawndo was designed by Monsanto? A fascinating thought...
OMGimaDONKEY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
plants crave water, like out of the toilet. duh.
Choosing_is_a_sin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:12:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is no evidence that language change is occurring at such a rate in any English-speaking community that intergenerational communication will be impeded to any degree more significant than previously.
Nichijo ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:47:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes there is. Language is changing faster than ever.
Choosing_is_a_sin ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:54:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have a source for this? Because as a professional linguist, I have not seen any papers that have found this to be true.
Nichijo ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 19:58:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Well now's your golden opportunity to do some research and write one.
Start with Google
HTH
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:46:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a source, results point to articles written by questionable, non-scientific media, most of which just copied the article from one another. Try citing a journal, not newspapers.
Nichijo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:57 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nitpick, try following some of the links, try searching. There are TONS of hits. OR, easier still, just slam your mind shut and take it on faith, that in spite of it becoming the world's common language, with most speakers non-native, add to that the expansion of electronic media, especially the internet, of new speakers ...
"Oh, how could it possibly be changing? The professional says it isn't, and I believe in professionals, so they don't have to cite anything....".
I'll put my money on common sense, observation and reason.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:43 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Avoiding the issue, you stated that "the fossilization process is accelerating. You and your grandchildren will not be able to communicate." for which there is no evidence, no one is saying language isn't evolving.
Nichijo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:55:58 on January 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My statement was a half-joke. I'm sure grandparents will speak the same language, and be able to talk to their grandchildren in the future -- although they might not know wtf the other is talking about.
I don't know how old you are now, but there will come a time when you feel like you have to explain everything to a younger listener. I suppose it's as much a feature of the massive shift in common knowledge in the cultural sense.
Google ngram generator is my friend, and yours.
Choosing_is_a_sin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is essentially an assertion that you have no evidence, and that you don't care that there has already been research that shows that English is in its longest stable period of its history.
Nichijo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:44 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YOU made an assertion without any evidence. Where's the research that supports your claim?
Choosing_is_a_sin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:01 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My assertion was that I haven't seen any papers that support this. Are you looking for research about what I've seen?
In all seriousness, you can look at Nettle (1998) that shows that language change will occur more quickly in small communities than in large ones, with the obvious implication that if we have larger communities now, we expect less change. You can also read books on the history of English (like Millward's A Biography of the English Language) that show that Modern English has changed far more slowly than Old English or Middle English, which both had a high degree of contact-induced change.
Nichijo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:33 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the reason I believe that it's now in a period of rapid change -- because of all the non-native speakers throwing their ingredients into the pot. Not only human migrations, which are at a high (possible all-time) level, but to the various media (movies, TV and internet) that are fairly new in the historical context).
It just seems to be logical, that this propagation and mixing would accelerate change.
Choosing_is_a_sin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:38 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A logical inference is not a fact to be asserted. One of the things you are casting aside is the proportion of non-native speakers to native speakers in the communities where English is common as a first language, as well as the uniformity of the non-native speakers. In Old English, the contact-induced change came from the Danelaw, the area of England ruled by speakers of Old Norse, who constituted about half the population, affecting particularly the grammar and phonology of the language, change which later spread to other dialects. In Middle English, the contact-induced change came principally from French and Latin words (with some influence from Norman, influence that is usually overstated in popular discussions) with almost no impact on the grammar of the language. These sources were fairly uniform and had a good degree of either prestige or interpersonal influence.
Today's influence from non-native speakers doesn't generally get passed on to the broader native-speaking community. There aren't many features of Indian English found in the US despite thousands of immigrants coming here for decades. The UK has some marginal influence from Caribbean Englishes, but it still retains the vast majority of its dialectal traits.
Moreover, it is well-established in the literature (Trudgill's Dialects in Contact, Milroy & Milroy's Language and Social Networks, etc) that interpersonal interaction is what drives most language change and variation, with media playing only a very slight role (infrequent borrowings of words and phrases, which may be highly salient to people but not substantively numerically important).
I can get why you would believe that change is happening quicker, but it's an assertion in need of actual evidence that compares rates of change, rather than a logical inference based on a subset of the factors that one must consider to have it be a valid inference.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:40:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Except that people have different registers of speech according to whom they are talking to and in what situation. Just because the creation and obsolescence of idioms is accelerating doesn't mean that people can't communicate in regular, non-idiomatic speech with people that don't share the same idiomatic expressions with them.
I mean, I'm sure you don't speak to your RL friends in memes outside very specific situations, that's because the context that prompts a register where memes are used is the internet, not real life. The same applies between generations.
Nichijo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:38 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, there's a huge difference in the way we communicate here online, and in-person communication. Something to keep in mind when you meet an "online friend" in person for the first time. The difference can be a rude awakening, too. We are different people in person. I've had this happen both ways. Years ago, I got into an ugly flame war with somebody who had the resources to travel to meet me in person. We became fast friends. I've had it go the other way, too. We concluded that it was best if we continued to be friends online, but stay away from one another IRL.
I get kinda bristly when I see the word 'meme' used... I never know quite what the writer means. It's hardly ever the way Richard Dawkins meant when he invented the word in his book, The Selfish Gene
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:03 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was an exaggerated example to get the point across, which is: different context, different registers of speech to ease communication barriers and comply with social expectations.
As for meme, the definition Richard Dawkins coined is far from the current meaning the word has acquired. By using the word meme I meant viral idiomatic expressions suited for internet communication, in this particular context, written memes (since speaking with image macros is quite difficult IRL).
Nichijo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:38 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It sure is. That bugs me, to see an interesting idea dumbed down by popular culture, into a cartoon.
fishsticks40 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Oh grandpa, you're such a cornhusk. The pickleparty was totally blamming. Next time just send me a nozzer though shizzbot."
Nichijo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like grandpa when I read some messages on Reddit. And when I use such archaic terms like "I accidentally a whole bottle of Coke", or "How many fridges wide is it?", and nobody knows what I'm talking about.
thermitethrowaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hardly surprising, I'll probably be dead before they are born.
Nichijo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then you're really going to have trouble communicating with them.
Or a hell of a lot of fun... especially after they've watched a horror movie.
I'm thinking of them visiting a spiritual medium, and she tells them, "He said he feels fine", and they're going, "What the hell does that mean?"
abutthole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You telling me my grandchildren won't know dank memes?
saikorican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, like wtf is a buck snort?
Onewafflesyrup ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:37:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought buck snorting meant farting.
TuffLuffJimmy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:58:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
None of those idioms contain words only used in those phrases.
Baron_Von_Badass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think what OP is trying to say is that all of these phrases/idioms in their entirety have fallen out of common use.
TuffLuffJimmy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Blow smoke and hog high are still pretty common.
SirSoliloquy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:00:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think fossil words are words that are still used as part of common idioms/phrases, but are almost never used outside those idioms. The fact that it's "preserved" in general use is what makes it a fossil.
An idiom that isn't generally used by people wouldn't be a fossil, since it's not preserved in any way.
kctroway ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:53:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well "butt-chugging" is a thing now...
also buck-snort makes me think of spice weasels in Futurama, where they just squeeze the weasel til it snorts out a small amount of spice.
weedguru420 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:53:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dont see how blowing smoke up someones ass is an idiom.
Monagan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't tell if you're joking or if you just never heard of it.
ben7337 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:40:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've honestly never heard of bucksnort. Is that more of a southern term?
Sterling_-_Archer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those are all normal phrases in rural Texas.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An idiom is a phrase whose meaning cannot be derived from the sum of it's parts, in that sense all idioms are fossil idioms according to your idea, that is because in order to be considered an idiom, the phrase must no longer make sense by itself due to loss of context (most of the time anyways).
wrincewind ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heck, underdog is a fossil word. It refers to two - man saw teams, cutting wood. One would be on top of the log - the top dog - and the underdog would be underneath, getting sawdust and Crap in his hair and eyes.
surkh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think what makes fossil words "fossil" rather than just "archaic" is that while the original word is no longer used for its original meaning, but it's still in relatively common usage as part of a phrase, but most people don't know the exact original meaning.
arlenroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I understand now, or have a better grip on what exactly constitutes a fossil. Thank you rando internet stranger. In a way wouldn't it make sense if the word or phrase still being doesn't have the same meaning? I mean it would just be considered a repurposed fossil?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:09:29 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My fave is "living below the salt", meaning you weren't on the Lord's table where you had access to delicious, delicious salt.
arlenroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:49 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that, I honestly didn't know what meant. I thought "below the salt? below a salt mine? a hobbit?" I just didn't put two and two together.
psykulor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Living high on the hog is still relevant today; poor people are more likely to be obese in part because they buy cheaper, and fattier, foods.
Anouther ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:28:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And blowing smoke is still used.
UniverseBomb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh. It's more abusing food stamps to stock up on ice cream and hot pockets. Boneless skinless chicken breast is easily one of the cheapest cut of meat. I say this as someone on benefits. (And dietary fat =/= fat)
chunkytaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A "buck snort" is also something deer actually do when trying to smell a predator.
Nichijo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:36:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or a fart.
Thorin_Oakenshield ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My fave is fossil grammar - as a linguistic studying languages with no written historical corpus, fossil phrases and grammar in such phrases (often found in stories) are a window to the past! Sometimes even quite distant past.
Awdayshus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Wikipedia article OP linked to calls what you describe "fossil senses". Basically an idiom that uses a word that is still in use, but has a different meaning in the idiom then it would ever have outside of that context.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the UK we still say 'blowing smoke up my arse' but I had no idea where it came from - thanks!
highasakite91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait! What did I just read?
CapnNoodle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They sell buck snorts in this trailer park across the railroad tracks
Kidneyjoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, I never knew buck snort was an actual phrase and not just a goofy sounding road name.
Noxieus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, those are simply antiquated and not used anymore. The 'fossil' words described are words that like your example phrases, are no longer used, but they are different in that they do still appear in daily conversation thanks to their inclusion in relevant and modern idioms.
madusldasl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But just about every saying is based around an old practice. That's the reason we know them as a saying and don't believe someone is actually living high up on a hog somewhere.
NickRick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no those are dead phrases.
crossmr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:52 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm only in my 30s and use blowing smoke. It's pretty damn common as far as i know.
wicked-dog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:12 on January 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you want, an egg in your beer?
Monagan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your grandma may be a fossil, but other than that I'm not even sure what you mean by fossil phrases. Are you talking about idioms that relate to things that aren't relevant to current culture? Because that's most idioms. Or are you talking about idioms that no one uses anymore? Because those are just called "idioms no one uses anymore". The whole idea of a fossil word is that it is a word necessary for an idiom, but which remains unused outside of it. It kind of doesn't work if you refer to an entire phrase.
Also, while it's true that blowing smoke up someone's ass was used to combat drowning, there's no evidence that it has anything to do with the idiom, which came about much later. It's probably just a coincidence.
PS: Formatting! Some line breaks with double spaces would be nice. Or quotation marks around the phrases you're listing, at least. Your post was very painful to read.
arlenroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:42 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're very painful to deal with. Double spaces? Are we in sixth grade detention? Seriously who the fuck does that besides no one? You seriously sound like a elementary Language Arts teacher.
Monagan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:56 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I was trying to be polite. However...
First off, since your original post had such bad formatting that it may as well have been written by a particularly intelligent monkey I suppose I can't be surprised you don't realize that a double space at the end of a line forces a line break in reddits formatting. It is also not surprising that the sheer mention of it makes you think of detention, a place someone with your apparent disdain for the English language probably spent a lot of time.
Let me also take a brief moment to point out that even the aforementioned monkey would realize that if you want to be understood, it's important to make your post actually legible - though it probably wouldn't have helped much in your case.
Now for the meat and potatoes of your original post. I noticed you neglected to address any of my actual questions besides some weird response trying to educate me about proper drowning prevention, which goes to show that besides not knowing how to properly write a post, you apparently also have no idea how to read one.
That doesn't really surprise me though. The only reason I asked a few questions about your post was because I had a faint shred of hope you weren't just some dumb redneck whose grasp of the original post about "fossil words" was so thin that they thought their granny's obscure hillbilly sayings, accompanied by dubious or outright wrong origins of said idioms, constituted a valuable addition to the conversation. You even came up with a little term for it, "fossil phrases". How cute. Completely nonsensical, of course, but I guess kind of endearing, like a drawing by a particularly ugly elementary school student.
How about you make like a fossil and get the fuck out of here.
arlenroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:16:06 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about you go back to teaching second grade and talk to someone who gives a fuck about your pathetic attempt to make yourself feel better.
Monagan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:49 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You seem to have some weird obsession with second grade teachers. Did you get held back a lot?
arlenroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:28 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And no, the only way to combat drowning is a life preserver, and not to drown. Idiot.
TexasKornDawg ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:04:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I'm sorry, sir. I'm anispeptic, frasmotic, even compunctuous to have caused you such pericombobulation.
Smauler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The phrase I have an issue with is "betwixt and between".
It just means between and between. It literally means that, and that means nothing more than just between.
recalcitrant_feline ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 16:52:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll be back before you can say antidisestablishmentarianism.
funkadunkalunk ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:55:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anti distinctly minty monetary.
misterblade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:42:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OK. You have about three days before you must return.
PM_ME_WHAT_YOU_GOT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:51:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I learned of this word at some point back in elementary or middle school and loved confusing people with it.
Not that I had any idea what it meant...
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:49:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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MacbethsCodpiece ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:45:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. I have watched it so many times that I had memorized mist if the lines. Also my user name is an homage to the show.
CryptMonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:07:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
2nd codpiece a large part? Depends who was playing Macbeth
TexasKornDawg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:03:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Contrafribularites", sir? It is a common word down our way.....
Lurking_Grue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:17 on January 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn!
lunartree ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:57:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I accept your congratulations with much verisimilitude!
FL2PC7TLE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd rather have some filthy lucre.
sean7755 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm, yes. Words and such...
stubmaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what idiom is that from?
Dr_McKay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:11 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good morning, that's a nice tnetennba.
[deleted] ยท 784 points ยท Posted at 13:55:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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betadan ยท 453 points ยท Posted at 16:01:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It truly embiggens the dictionary
Shilo59 ยท 190 points ยท Posted at 17:12:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pun chains like this really niggle me.
maddyman10 ยท 287 points ยท Posted at 17:17:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's racist
[deleted] ยท 296 points ยท Posted at 18:11:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Don't be so niggardly with your comments.
Edit: I remember someone got fired once for using that word - use with caution
All_Bucked_Up ยท 403 points ยท Posted at 19:09:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Knowledge is knowing that nigger and niggardly are not etymologically related. Wisdom is not using the word niggardly because it's not worth the trouble.
JarlaxleForPresident ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 19:50:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like that one dude a week or two ago on Reddit that grew his hair and beard out for three months and then shaved his head into a male pattern baldness effect and a biker mustache and then put his chin into his chest while putting his head back. Yeah, it's kinda funny for a few minutes, but now your driver's license looks completely different than what you actually look like. No way that would ever come back to cause trouble for you...
SuccumbedToReddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Link?
JarlaxleForPresident ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:33:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/3zvroa/getting_a_drivers_license/?ref=search_posts
SuccumbedToReddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's.... something.
Thanks for the link!
Saul_Firehand ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Int save passed. Wis and Cha save failed.
onontul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, that's cowardice. We're not giving up a perfectly utilitarian Germanic word just because it resembles a shitty Latinate slur.
Our Germanic vocabulary has suffered enough.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:37:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
#GermanicWordsMatter
GeeJo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:21:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are certain parts of the vocabulary that are into that kind of thing.
pdrocker1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:21:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wtf?
UnfortunatelyLucky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:03:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We really should be aware , rather than cognisant, of how the English language is abandoning Germanic words in favour of the more elegant Latinate ones, and how we're being inundated with words like career instead of job, or amicable over friendly.
Latinate words in italics and Germanic words in bold.
All_Bucked_Up ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:18:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Something about Latinate words in italics and Germanic words in bold just seems right.
chinggis_khan27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except that the Germanic words in your comment are all more popular by far than their Latinate alternatives, which tend to be used only in formal contexts. And thus it has been for a while now; the variation is stable.
Also Germanic is a Latinate word :P
UnfortunatelyLucky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're right in general conversation (another pesky Latin derivation), but on Editorial (*again*) pages you'll find far more uses of Latinate words in an attempt to sound well spoken etcetera (figured I'd just bypass the derivations and go straight to the original word).
LogicDragon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sed quidquid latine dictum sit altum videtur.
UnfortunatelyLucky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Semper ubi sub ubi.
Status_Flux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:21 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who fucking cares, it's used as the butt of a joke far more often than anything else.
Jwpjr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I need to get this cross-stitched and hung on my wall
lissylove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:22 on January 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want to get this quote in needlepoint and hang it above the mantle for all to see.
chibiwibi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
best comment so far
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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gemini86 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:28:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, mine is
IndigoMichigan ยท 140 points ยท Posted at 18:37:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
"Simon, do you know why I've called you into my office?"
-Simon shakes his head-
"Well, you've been reported to us for apparently insulting one of your colleagues by calling them a 'nigger'. Several others have confirmed this. This level of racism and discrimination will not be tolerated by the company. Can you give us your take on the events?"
"Uh, I didn't call Jennifer a nigger..."
"Just tell us what happened, please."
"Fine. Uh, well I was going around the office taking in donations for Barbara's cancer fund - God bless her soul - and when I got around to Jenny she told me she couldn't donate anything. I dunno, I guess it rubbed me the wrong way because she was bragging just a couple of weeks ago about that huge raise she got recently, so I asked her to stop being so niggardly with her money."
"Simon, you do know Jenny is Hispanic, and not black, right?"
"Well yeah, but I don't see what th-"
"So why did you call her a nigger? It's not nice to insult black people for being poor, Simon. I mean I know they're quite poor, but we just can't tolerate that kind of insensitivity towards the negro community."
"Sir, I-"
"Now, listen. I know we did them a great service by taking them out of the jungle, giving them a proper language and jobs to make them a bit more respectable - hell, we even let them keep that hip-hop nonsense to give them a connection to their roots - but calling them out for being the thieving, violent monkeys they are just isn't allowed nowadays. Do you understand what I'm saying, Simon?"
"Uh, yes Sir."
"Good."
"Um, Sir?"
"Yes, Simon?"
"I... I quit."
Joabyjojo ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 19:55:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read it so the boss is David Mitchell and the employee is Robert Webb.
Skiddle1138 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:09:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it works even better when you switch roles. Webb is more likely to not know the word niggardly. And Mitchell more likely to say it, if only slightly.
IndigoMichigan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:09:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well they have influenced my sense of humour over the years; I could totally imagine this being a Mitchell and Webb sketch.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:35:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry, I can only hear uncle ruckus when I see that level of racism.
Joabyjojo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:48:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok but counter point https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkzox_t3Z-Q
X-Pertti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read or read?
TheWaterBottler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:43:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read.
Joabyjojo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Listen m8 I wrote it, it says read not read.
-onionknight- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:41:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hennimore!!
robodrew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perfection.
angertopic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it Chantelle or Jennifer??
IndigoMichigan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good spot. I went with one then changed it. It's Kent.
texticles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
did you make this up? it's terrific
IndigoMichigan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Hah, yeah I did, and thanks!
I often make up shit like this on the spot. One of my favourites was on the dangers of crumpets.
Link.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should write for Mitchell and Webb.
Couchtiger23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's probably best to just stay away from all fancy words at work: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KrJYpActs7g
DKSbobblehead ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:53:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's actually several instances. What's really interesting is that the etymology of the word has no connection to the taboo homonyms.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I'd never actually looked up other incidents of the use of niggardly - I just didn't want a kid to see it and use it, not realizing most people misinterpret the meaning.
Mikeavelli ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:48:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My understanding of that one is that either the person said 'nigger' but told HR it was 'niggardly' to try and keep their job, or the HR person assumed thats what happened.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Niggardly - it's a word not used often in the states, so when he used it everyone automatically thought he called someone a nigger, which went around the entire office, until he was fired for racism. I don't think anyone ever bothered to look the word up, and no one had ever heard the word before. (That's all the info I remember - it's second hand from quite a while ago).
blaghart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yea because it sounds like it should be bad, despite sharing no root, no origin, nor meaning with the word nigger. It's not even spelled the same!
Just a surefire sign of people hating what they don't understand.
abutthole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reading through the Game of Thrones books is great because they call Tywin a niggard all the time. I'm wondering if this will be something like Harry Potter where the author tries to stay relevant by switching the race of an established character someday. I'd be down for black Lannisters.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hope this doesn't sound racist but The Black Lannisters sounds like it could be a great comedy sit-com.
abutthole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Watchu talkin' about Wyllas?" Tyrion Lannister to Wyllas Tyrell.
InterPunct ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:13 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Controversies about the word "niggardly":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_the_word_%22niggardly%22
onthehornsofadilemma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:20 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tom Clancy used it at least once each novel. I wasn't as impressed with it as I'd think he'd want people to be.
wttk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:01:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*really naggle me?
DenverBowie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*really Nagel me
SilentSamamander ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:36:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't a pun thread though, it's just a list of quotes. There are no plays on words.
Voldemort_5 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:32:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol everything is puns though /r/dadjokes /r/jokes /r/endmysuffering
IsreXx ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:22:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're quite Ludic
crazetex ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:23:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad I'm not the only one who always checks the dictionary.com word of the day
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then you'll love thesaurus.com's Word of the Hour!
glglglglgl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Niggle is a fossil word?
2bananasforbreakfast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could you recombobulate that for me?
orlanderlv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put the pussy on the chain wax?
adamup27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's so esoteric!
mugdays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These aren't puns, just Simpsons references.
KimJongIlSunglasses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How is this a pun thread?
OneYearSteakDay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I completely grok what you guys are saying.
Panda_P ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.
[deleted] ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 18:05:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some times I turpitude words into a conversation even if I don't know what they mean.
TheCapedMoosesader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:52 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's perfectly cromulent.
divadsci ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:48:44 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean turpituate
how_is_u_this_dum ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:01:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turpitude is a noun.
Gnometard ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:40:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quit being a turpitude
boogadaba ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:22:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's not right, you just turpituded turpitude as a turpitude.
cynic79 ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 15:35:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use it quite frequently.
Source: Am lawyer.
trolloc1 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:45:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My gf has used it a couple of times but I've never heard anyone else use it.
Source: she wants to be lawyer.
SirSoliloquy ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:02:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, lawyers. One of several professions where not being understood can be a major benefit.
EastisRed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:00:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The first time I heard this when Marv Albert's sex scandal came out. He got canned because of a "Moral Turpitude" clause in his contract. Source: Basketball fan
peon47 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:47:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've used it three times. Each time I've visited the U.S., I've had to tick a little box that says I've never been convicted of a crime involving it.
percussaresurgo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Immigration?
JurisDoctor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's definitely important to immigration law. Crimes of moral turpitude have serious consequences for immigrants and those seeking admission to the United States.
percussaresurgo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, I do post-conviction work for immigrants. I was just wondering if that term is used commonly in any other area of law.
Daveaa005 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah this. I encounter this phrase every day and use it unironically several times a week.
galient5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the most bizarre use of "sourcing" I've seen.
HeliumFarts ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 16:55:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honk
snappyj ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:14:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only time I've seen it used is in the movie Porky's
THE_GR8_MIKE ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:09:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is spiraling out of amok.
clownshoesrock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:17:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I almost want to referee a paper, with my remarks including the phrase "logical turpitude".
davesFriendReddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It can be a reason for termination of employment so it's worth knowing what it means
ChipAyten ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turpentine
blasto_pete ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I measured your moral turpitude on my moral barometer.
Walksonthree ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But wheres your moral barometer?
HeMightBeRacist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honk
AveryAWhiteMale ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:59:16 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does this effect my barometer in anyway?
Hector_Kur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use it almost as much as I use the word grommet. Both of those words are pretty swood, I'd say.
tupeloms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People who want to enter the US they have to read a document which states they cannot enter if they have engaged in 'moral turpitude' or sthg like that
cpw_19 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! The only place I've ever seen the phrase "moral turpitude" was on the old green I-94W form that I got when I visited New Orleans back in '08. Do they still do those on airliners, or has ESTA succeeded all of that?
tupeloms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't been back there in years, so I don't know
Lithobreaking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
honk
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so to conclude, op has no fucking clue what he is talking about.
Honk_If_Top_Comment ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OP seems to know what they're talking about.
Perhaps you missed a joke?
Whargod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The first time I ran into that phrase was a TV show called Puppets Who Kill, been using it ever since.
Knotdothead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every time I hear that phrase it reminds me of Lassie and Beulah Ballbreaker in the movie Porky's
rebelx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
State of California loves moral turpitude.
F0xtails ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HONK
Cephon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good morning, that's a nice tenetenba
MultiGeometry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honk
Sandmin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good morning. Thats a nice Tnetennba.
magic_pat_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honk
SARmedic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In career fields where trust is needed, you can be prevented from obtaining a license if you've been convicted of moral turpitude. (Stealing is a good example.)
Careers such as: Paramedics, nurses, firefighters, law enforcement, etc.
bstampl1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turpitude is really great for getting paint off of paintbrushes
Wiiplay123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:18 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hercules does what Nintendercules!
DonOntario ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:48:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand your comment. "Moral turpitude" is a fairly well-known phrase and "turpitude" is practically obsolete on its own. Just like OP said.
Waddupp ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fuck me this thread was made for /r/iamverysmart
Honk_If_Top_Comment ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:58:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was being sarcastic
Waddupp ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i know yeah
chunkymanapples ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:44:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not clever enough to know if what you're saying makes sense or not
rdldr1 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:20:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go suck and egg, toots.
_kilometersdavis ยท 219 points ยท Posted at 18:11:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm whelmed.
[deleted] ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 19:01:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I whelmed your mother last night.
vveave ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:36:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's gross, grandma.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:37:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It took a fair amount of positioning but I did it.
AdvicePerson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:25:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why we can't have nice words.
Canadian_People ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:44:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like there should be a Trebek on the end of that sentence.
jehuty08 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:31:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you feeling the aster too?
Tychonaut ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:08:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not whelmed at all. I am sub-whelmed.
fake_lightbringer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:52:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But not quite underwhelmed? I feel ya
Tychonaut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh .. "underwhelmed". Yeah .. that's much better than sub-whelmed. That should be a thing.
So .. you go from being "underwhelmed" .. to being just "whelmed" or "whelmy" .. to being "extrawhelmed". Gotit.
Tsugua354 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not overly or underly so, just the right amount of whelmed
Moxxuren ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're also ploding.
TullyCicero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:20:46 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I take it you're from Europe?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:07 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
slap duh megan!
spectrumero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hopefully you're gormful as well.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wot
BrushGoodDar ยท 886 points ยท Posted at 14:48:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's bring back amok. We can do this Reddit!
orestesFeasting ยท 644 points ยท Posted at 14:52:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok amok amok!
PintosGoBoom ยท 1473 points ยท Posted at 16:17:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
amok amok amok amok amok amealeon.
throwawayeue ยท 334 points ยท Posted at 17:25:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg.. Haha. Reddit constantly disappoints me by reminding me how much more witty and creative other people are than me.
[deleted] ยท 150 points ยท Posted at 18:26:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn it. I also suffer from this, but would never have thought of commenting it.
swyx ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 20:21:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MFW when somebody beats you to admitting inferiority to somebody else ๐
Comrade_McCumfarts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Blast! You stole the glory of the MFW comment from me! I'll never have anything witty to say...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, to be fair there's a 50/50 chance that the comment is downvoted.
Peanut2232 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:14:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't really feel bad at all. You are one person, reddit is millions. Let's say 1% is funnier than you. somewhere between 100,000-1,000,000 people. (10,000,000 subscribers to TIL) So if any of them make a witty comment, and it'll be upvoted so it becomes visible.
But you can easily imagine millions of other people saying stupid shit and getting downvoted, or even nothing at all.
It's crowd-sourced comedy. It's not just one guy whos really funny all the time, it's literally millions. To be disappointed that someone, somewhere said something funnier than you shouldn't be surprising.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:57:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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BklynWhovian ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 20:34:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's a karma chameleon.
Lithobreaking ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:24:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, you caught the Karma Splash Zone!
Occupier_9000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:56:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's okay you can just copy the things people say here and repeat them in other social contexts and people will think it's you who are witty.
Neocrasher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The problem is that you're comparing yourself to millions of other people. Of course you're not going to be as witty as a collective of millions.
s_SoNick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you can probably beat an RPG before they as a collective do, though
AmazingChickenWings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Technically speaking, you're amazed at others and disappointed at yourself.
britishgentlemen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a pun...literally the pinnacle of comedy on reddit.com
ChipsHanden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
me too thanks
Yuzanem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:33 on January 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same, hah....
miniflip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, you're serious.
TimeWastingFun ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:08:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We shouldn't let them run amok
FunkMetalBass ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 17:28:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had to read this one aloud before I appreciated it. Well done.
sneakylemons ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:20:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is such an underrated comment
cvef ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:32:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OOTL... Pls explain....
[deleted] ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 17:53:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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dd_de_b ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 17:58:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, make sure your brain is not on idle when you listen to this song or it will be stuck there for months
Daneelbel_Lee ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:10:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meta'd already?
Awesomekip ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:11:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too Meta
DipDoodle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like a screensaver?!?!
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:06:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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atree496 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's continue making you feel old. We are closer to the 80's being 40 years ago than 30 years ago.
cvef ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:27:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for providing the real answer! Yeah I got that the word "chameleon" was supposed to be in there somewhere but I've never heard the song before
kajeslorian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:07:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That video is weirder than I imagined it to be (It reminds me of the Safety Dance in that respect).
BitchpuddingBLAM ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 17:40:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you say it out loud fast it sounds like "karma karma karma karma karma chameleon"
INemzis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was because "amok" backwards is "koma" - but then that doesn't really work with "amealeon".
kajeslorian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:03:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It works better if you stress the first syllable of amok instead of the last. "Amok" instead of "aMOK". Then your brain starts running the repeating words together, so "amok amok amok" becomes "amokamokamok" which easily becomes "amo kamo kamo kamo Kameleon"
Displosive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
But that would require you to mispronounce it
Edit: I'm American Midwest thus pronouncing it as ah-muck with clear distinction between words
gormster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah you have to switch the emphasis to the first syllable
tasha4life ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't tell if your username is relevant or not.
ItzInMyNature ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:58:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How the hell would it be relevant? I'm confused.
perfectclear ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:53:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
only thing I could possibly think of is this http://xkcd.com/1627/
xkcd_transcriber ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:53:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Image
Title: Woosh
Title-text: It also occasionally replies with 'Comment of the year', 'Are you for real', and 'I'm taking a screenshot so I can remember this moment forever'.
Comic Explanation
Stats: This comic has been referenced 81 times, representing 0.0843% of referenced xkcds.
xkcd.com | xkcdย sub | Problems/Bugs? | Statistics | Stopย Replying | Delete
tasha4life ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:40:05 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So am I!
P.S. It didn't take much.
sneakylemons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Say it out loud
Drink-my-koolaid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:51:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you come and go, you come and go
zeekar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're a chameleon?
Xenefungus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sweet home amokbama Give me one amok in time
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get it...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Dsiroon37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still don't get it.
smokanagan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought this joke was close but just missed.
danald_tramp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:32 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this kind of shit makes me have faith in others
zyphyrkhyts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had to log in just to upvote you... i think i love you now...
Brailledit ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Karma Chameleon.
Nichijo ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 18:13:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok amok
iamchaossthought ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:39:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too much
would--you--kindly ยท 192 points ยท Posted at 17:20:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think anyone here gets your Hocus Pocus reference. But I do. It's ok. I still love you.
orestesFeasting ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:30:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As long as one other person got it, it was worth it.
AidenRyan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was actually hoping something like that would be the top comment.
LethalQuicksilver ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 17:23:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had the same thought. I was trying to figure out how no one caught the reference. You have restored my faith.
crackalac ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:40:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally the only thing I remember about that movie.
aaronrenoawesome ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:04:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sarah Jessica Parker was adorable in that, and so was tiny Thora Birch.
My friend still watches it in VHS all the time.
PunkinNickleSammich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:42 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Friend"
aaronrenoawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:53 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, not me - I just torrent everything; I'm cheap and lazy, but I like 1080p.
She has maybe 30 or 40 old VHS tapes, Hocus Pocus is one of them.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:32:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only time SJP was ever attractive.
Victinithetiny101 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:04:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BURNING RAIN OF DEATH
luckytwentytwo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:16:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/i2PN9tn-NsU?t=36s :)
Emilybinx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's ok, I got it
Lurking_Grue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:31 on January 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got it.
ValkyrieNine ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 15:26:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're trying so hard!
Margamel ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 15:30:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One might even say he's run amok with the word.
shneven ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 16:50:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like saying smock. Smock smock smock!
ZalinskyAuto ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 16:55:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't knock my smock or I'll clean your clock
ShisaDog ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:17:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can tell the quality of an artist by the quality of his /her smock
bigtreeworld ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:36:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Off to /r/CalvinandHobbes
treycook ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:19:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't believe that all this time I haven't been subbed to a C&H sub.
ShisaDog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:42:24 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think of all the hours you've wasted looking at things that aren't Calvin and Hobbes.
Neospector ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:29:56 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can tell the quality of the artist by the quality of his smock
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so glad there's someone else in the world who thought of this exact thing.
Quinntervention ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I, too, thought of the c&h strip
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:06:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice Hocus Pocus reference. My first thought as well.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:26:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AMOK AMOK AMOK AMOK
Chippy569 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
god i hated that movie as a kid. the stupid bitch on the right, even now i want to punch her in her buckteeth. ugh. i don't even remember anything about the movie anymore except for a seething rage.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bette Midler? It was a crazy movie. I hated it, too, but any time someone says "amok," I immediately think of this scene.
rhymes_with_chicken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get that reference. It's what goes through my head instantly when I hear the word.
Thats_Good_Stupid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AMOOOOOK
GoodBurgher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oi oi oi oi
Xenomech ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great. You've said it too many times and now the word has lost all meaning.
skippythemoonrock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smock smock smock!
PewPewOuttaMyWay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
amok amok amok
Obviously the only thing I think of.
burritosandblunts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/oi76E6E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oi76E6E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oi76E6E.jpg
Mach10X ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:03 on January 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://gfycat.com/ImpressiveKindlyBufeo
am0x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop! I have been using this as my gamer tag for over 15 years. Now it's always going be taken...
LadonLegend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Armok!
canausernamebetoolon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:56:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not Beetlejuice.
Cringerella ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:02:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We did it, reddit!
dragonspaceshuttle ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:36:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok you in the mouth
slink7 ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 15:54:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Atoms for Peace
kushwonderland ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:31:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok
shadow6463 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:29:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Such a great album, underrated in my opinion.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another reason to avoid high-profile album reviews.
samfi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also Amok
halfmanhalfvan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-thm
fast-track ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Their gig at Austin City Limits 2013. A wonderful live performance
Evilbush ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 15:51:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's it mean?
Can I walk amok?
PoorTony ยท 214 points ยท Posted at 17:40:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Amok" isn't actually a fossil word--it's a loan word.
"Amok" was borrowed from the Malay "mengamuk," and referred to the belief that sudden acts of mass violence were caused by a tiger spirit entering the person and compelling them to act against their own character.
thebestdaysofmyflerm ยท 172 points ยท Posted at 18:29:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure those are independent of each other. Can't a word be both?
PoorTony ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 18:54:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course. For example, "turpitude", referenced above, is both a loanword and a fossil (coming from the Latin "turpitลซdล"). However, "turpitude" entered the English language in the late 1400s, when the language was quite different. It became a part of ordinary English, and then it fell out of use. It was only preserved as part of the legal phrase "moral turpitude". This is what makes it a fossil word.
"Amok" entered English for the first time in the late 1700s and only attained common use in the mid-1800s. It was borrowed to describe a specific, foreign cultural phenomenon, then had its meaning broadened into a more general meaning. It never "became obsolete" the way that fossil words do.
I'm being pretty deliberately technical and I'd be willing to accept that "amok" is both a fossil word and a loan word. That said, I think it's so much the latter and so little the former that it would be misleading to call it a fossil word.
tatankayotanka ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 19:55:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm also not convinced that the definition fits in the case of amok:
The only usage of amok was to "run amok". It hasn't become "generally obsolete", rather it was only ever used as part of the idiom.
dakuth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that true? Seems a bit odd to build an idiom around a word invented for only that case.
I can see it happening if it was part of a big cultural event... E.g. something like hakuna matata
But usually you'd make it out of witty, visceral combinations, for which you need commonly understood words. Until the phrase catches on, at least
rasouddress ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:00:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
According to the article, that's called being "born a fossil."
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:01:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh now I'm super interested. Did this mean that a man could be considered innocent if he were to suddenly attack people in a crowd?
PoorTony ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 18:45:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently, yes!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC181064/
akanachan ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:37:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dead people can't be punished for their crimes.
There are mentions of trials in the article as well:
Cool article, thanks for sharing!
Orlitoq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is an appendix that covers culturally specific diagnoses in the DSM-IV-TR (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of mental disorders, fourth edition, text revision), and is still considered a valid diagnosis in those cultures.
I do not have my DSM-5 on hand or I would check to see if it was included in the latest edition, which was finalized just 2 years ago.
Jurkey ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:26:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In danish, and probably other scandinavian languages, it's still a used work.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:45:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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HORNS_IN_CALI ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:54:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's interesting you guys are talking about this word in Scandinavian countries because I'd think "berserk" would be more culturally appropriate.
Achilles-Actual ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:23:43 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a direct result of Dutch military bases in Indonesia
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:10:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Tagalog it means the same, to go around a frenzied rage and kill. It's to go berserk.
The thing I don't know is if it's a Tagalog word of Malay origin (they're part of the same language family) or made a circuitous way from Malay to English and back to Tagalog.
ouchity_ouch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's in visayan too.
Probably all Malay languages.
Plenty of words like that.
Like anak
Blacktagar_Boltagon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:31:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hang Jebat, the malay warrior who betrayed the evil king made the word popular with his murderous rampage that lasted for 3 days killing thousands.
kanakana ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:31:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also still a very commonly used word in Malay, in modern usage the word just means being in a pissed-off state.
Bladelink ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:30:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Or are you fucking with me? That sounds like such a crazy explanation.
DiogenesTheHound ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:13:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean we say "bless you" when someone sneezes so the evil sickness demons don't turn around and possess them again.
CyberDonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Malay and I've never heard that story, and I highly doubt that anybody actually believes that. It's just the type of story that old people tell their younglings for fun.
There's no equivalent English word for mengamuk afaik, but it basically means in colloquial usage that someone's bitter about a negative experience or outcome.
soliloki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:43 on February 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm Malay and 'mengamuk' in the supernatural sense really have happened throughout the years, although as a scientific person, I tend to chalk this up to a culturally-bound form of mental disorder. If I'm not mistaken 'run amok' is actually included in the DSM manual.
Also, 'go berserk' is essentially a good equivalent of the word 'mengamuk' if you're taking out the supernatural sense and using it as a general phrase to mean 'going viciously bonkers'. And to those wondering, we do use the word 'mengamuk' still as a verb to mean 'being extremely outraged', without the supernatural nuance.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Beck2012 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably every European language use the word amok (in Polish we also have amok). And it comes from Malay. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/amuk#Malay
vagimuncher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting because "amok" also means the same in Tagalog, but almost everyone thinks it's English.
A joke based on this word:
Q: What's the English word for "amok" A: "osquito"
Explanation: "lamok" is the Tagalog word for "mosquito"
Edit: additionally, the word "juramentado" is used in place. Almost everyone thinks it's Tagalog, but is likely Spanish (at least in origin)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that....
Is that true?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna try out the tiger spirit defense in court and see how it goes.
The_awful_falafel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mengamuk; a fighting-type Pokemon.
THIS_IS_CHARR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is true, but, at least in Indonesian, to "mengamuk" is to throw a tantrum (like a child) in common parlance.
ahhwell ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:49:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You could if you were Danish. "Go amok" is a fairly normal phrase here.
cmfg ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:07:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same in German.
thefloyd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:24:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a native speaker but I've always heard it as Amoklauf, amoklaufen (i.e. run amok). Do people actually say "amokgehen?"
cmfg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:32:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's Amok laufen. Walk, run, go, gehen, rennen, laufen, who can remember all the nuances.
thefloyd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:45 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno, I'd translate "laufen" as run and "rennen" as race. I don't think it's terribly nuanced.
wldmr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. "Amok gehen" does not work. It's "amok laufen", to run amok. "To walk" implies a slow pace, while "laufen" does not.
Roccondil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the more general point was that at least in compounds it isn't limited to one phrase. Besides Amoklauf/Amoklรคufer/amoklaufen you have words like Amokschรผtze or Amokfahrt.
calgil ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:21:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is in English too - 'run amok', that's the point, it's just 'amok' is never used in any other way. If your version of the phrase is 'go amok' it's still a fossil word.
ahhwell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is used a bit outside of just that phrase though. It can be used sort of synonumously with "crazy" or "hectic".
NerdFromDenmark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:55 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm
Rashkolnikov ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 16:10:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It means going postal.
Basically going on a rampage, wreaking havoc or a killing spree.
snappyj ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 17:16:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well yeah, that's what run amok means, but what about just amok?
According to the interwebs it is "a psychic disturbance characterized by depression followed by a manic urge to murder"
So it's just the urge to go on said rampage
TedTheGreek_Atheos ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:00:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I though it was part of the Vulcan mating ritual.
http://www.startrek.com/database_article/amok-time
kabirakhtar ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:20:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok and Jalad at Tanagra.
tocilog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing 'run amok' is the act of going on a rampage while 'amok' is the state of being on a rampage.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:21:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So amok = bipolar, but with murder instead of mania?
omegasavant ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:52:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, it's more like the mental state of a school shooter. Spree killing seems to be a worrying constant in the species :/
rrrr_ssss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if the school shooting wasn't premeditated.
snappyj ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok would be thinking about, I guess, whereas run amok would be doing
FailedSociopath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:06 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flitting and dithering hither and thither.
Kossimer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:31 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is what just amok means. Your question is like asking what just a crank is rather than turning a crank. With the verb run before it, amok is still a murderous rampage of supposedly spiritual origins.
WendyArmbuster ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:20:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wreaking. There's one there. What else do we wreak?
Eaziegames ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:10:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It technically just means 'cause' and you might hear it more in it's past tense 'wrought' possibly in a statement like, "What have your damaged hands wrought?"
ThirdFloorGreg ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:30:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Pretty sure wrought is the past tense of wright, not wreak.
Edit: I am wrong. Wreak, wright, and wrought are all cognates, but none is the past participle of another. Wrought is the past participle of work when used as a transitive verb.
thedrewsef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I pretend to know what all of those words mean!
ThirdFloorGreg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:41 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cognates- distinct words with a shared etymology, whether they are in the same language or different languages. Ship (English) skiff (English), and Schiff (German) are all cognates.
Past participle- short easy version is regular past tense.
Transitive verb- an action taken on something. To throw a ball. To kill a man. Intransitive verbs are actions that don't need an object to affect. To run. To jump. Some verbs are always one or the other, some can be either. To speak, to speak the truth.
zcbtjwj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:06:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
would wrought iron be from the same place? Or is that from wringing? Thinking about it, that's anothr word with a very specific usage.
ThirdFloorGreg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:36:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is wrong. Wrought means worked. They aren't interchangeable in modern English because wrought is always transitive and worked rarely is.
PoorTony ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:58:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can "wreak revenge," "wreak anger," or "wreak destruction."
It's a pretty silly word. So overwrought.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Needles in a haystack and dead horses?
intergalacticspy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
havoc, chaos and destruction
Not_the_brightest ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kids these days don't know what "going postal" is really about.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dis jit goin amok in dolla store!
Rashkolnikov ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The man in tha sto' don't even kno wut to do!
aethelberga ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:01:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spree is actually another one. It is only ever connected with killing or shopping. Never, say, cooking or reading or gardening.
theDalaiSputnik ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:06:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm of the opinion that we should be using "mucker," derived from amok by John Brunner in his novel Stand on Zanzibar, for the frequent shootings and attacks plastered across the evening news.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Rashkolnikov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once e-mail start becoming more obsolete maybe.
Vossenn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:41:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'amok' has almost the same meaning in Dutch. funny part is that it's (almost)a fossil word in Dutch too.
Rashkolnikov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Klopt, in het Duits ook. Een "Amoklรคufer" is een amokloper.
Alex_alpha ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:07:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A walk amok the tombstones
smithee2001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take some cold medicine, dear.
Artificial_Rhonda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:34:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tink does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=683MMIVZUfw
knashoj ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:01:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Danish you can. We literally say: "Gรฅ amok" which means "walk amok". And it means the same as in English.
ohnosharks ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:20:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More like "go amok", like "go crazy" or "go nuts", but yes, same meaning.
knashoj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, "gรฅ" can mean both walk and go, but it's funny, that you can "walk crazy".
kabirakhtar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
also remember the classic Daffy Duck cartoon, "Duck Amuck" --
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2j6pt1
Nervoz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok was believed to be a form of sudden violent psychosis that only affected people of the Malay Archipelago. Allegedly an amok would, after a particular event such as seeing blood, a violent act or something else traumatic, instantly enter a killing frenzy that could only be stopped if the amok was killed.
You could walk amok but you probably wouldn't get as many victims before getting stopped.
joestaff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok is a poison type Pokรฉmon that evolves from Grimer.
RadicalEmpiricist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only Tink walks amok.
Okidokicoki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bring me amoccha!
RainWindowCoffee ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 16:39:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm thinking it must have still been in use as recently as the '60s. The original pon farr Star Trek episode was called "Amok Time."
orestesFeasting ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:33:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never really thought abt what that episode title meant. TIL
zeekar ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:19:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't go by Star Trek original series episode names when looking for idiomatic American English of the 1960's; those titles were not exactly au courant. Most were deliberately poetic, and often references to something else - "The Conscience of the King" referencing Hamlet, "Who Mourns for Adonais?" referencing the Shelley poem. I don't think a 1960's denizen of the USA would come back from a mountain-climbing expedition in which they discovered that we live inside a giant rock and declaim "For The World Is Hollow And I Have Touched The Sky!".
RainWindowCoffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:32 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough. There were also a lot of Greek mythology references in The Original Series, since that's what Trek's target audience was into at the time. I guess nerds gonna nerd in any decade.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:02:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Masturbate amok
Year_Of_The_Horse_ ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:42:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
"Amok" is a Bahasa word describing a culture-bound psychiatrtic syndrome, in which the sufferer, usually a young man, goes on a surprise violent murderous rampage. The closest thing we have in our culture is the school shooting epidemic.
Beck2012 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:12:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a great drama/documentary about a soldier that went amok in 1987, it's called The Big Durian. The word is explained in it by one of the characters.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:15:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Bahasa" literally means "language". For example, Bahasa Inggeris means the English language. I think you mean Bahasa Melayu, or simply "Malay" in English.
zeekar ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:21:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In this case, Bahasa doesn't work, but in general it's not that uncommon that some tongue's word for "language" becomes its exonym among some of its neighbors.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:50:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:13:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Malaysia and we don't call it Bahasa, pukimak.
Hevelziv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:29:42 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dont know why am I laughing when I read Malay swear words in a global thread.. babi betul
AlmostFamous502 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:57 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like exactly the same thing.
Sassinak ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:23:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like it's amok time!
InvidiousSquid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:26:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please rise for the national anthem.
Inspiderface ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:26:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok time
Williamklarsko ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:22:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok is the Danish and what i thought was the "native" word for crazy or more "going crazy" ( jeg gรฅr amok"i go crazy)
minnesotan_youbetcha ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:25:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's just not make amokery of the whole thing.
rasmustrew ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:04:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: This is a danish word, still in use today!
Dissonanz ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:20:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not Danish, it's Malay. Unless you mean it's also Danish, in which case: It's German!
rasmustrew ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:23:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it is certainly a common word in Denmark.
madmoose ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:20:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Amok er et malajisk ord, ..."
Simmo5150 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Australia and it's a common word. Although it's pronounced Uh- muck.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:20:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
This seems like the word is used in a lot of languages, it's used in Hebrew as well
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Greek too!
eclectro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Already been done.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:06:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lil_Amok is one of the best BBoys on the planet
bl4ckblooc420 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:54:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the name of a curry dish in Cambodia if that counts.
rasmustrew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is also a danish word, which is probably exactly where the phrase comes from.
Calkhas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently Malay, via Dutch. "To go on a killing spree" https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/amok#Etymology
Industrious_Villain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit is running amok, thanks to you.
Froogyfrog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never liked amok I preferred him when he was a grimer
Nichijo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Several years ago, a man ran amok in Honolulu and killed some people. At his trial, the defense offered that running amok was a cultural thing... the man was Filipino, and just "acting out" according to his cultural traditions.
There were lots of letters in the newspaper from Filipinos, saying that defense was a load of crap. The jury agreed, and found the guy guilty of murder.
AN_ANGRY_BONER ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We could just talk about Amok Time a lot.
Riptor_Co ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok Time
Shalashaska315 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I never realized that 'amuck' was the adjective version: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2j6pt1
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is an amok like an alot?
shandow0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lets start behaving in an amoking way.
cshultz02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop trying to make amok happen. Its not going to happen.
GoingAMOK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's a pretty cool word
chocolatebRain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok and Jalad at Tanagra!
AppleDane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still alive and well in the Danish language.
"Amokindkรธb" is frenzied shopping.
am0x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My name is almost relevant!
IICVX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually use amok often enough that I kinda disagree with the title of the post.
Anyway, a better one is "bated", which is only ever found in "bated breath". It's why so many people on reddit write it as "baited", which makes no sense.
treintrien ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I announced " someone ran amok' in Dutch in a full train last summer. A seventy-year old man ran amok and we had to call police (he'd been hitting a footballsupporter) I got a LOT of comments on my archaic use of language. But it seems I am a true trendsetter!
PM-Me-Ants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's Amok time...
trowzerss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah! It's Amok Time!
MakeMeLookStrong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Living amok, never giving a fuck, Give me the keys I'm drunk, and I've never driven a truck
mrpickles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What does amok mean?
SlipperyFish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chicken Amok is delicious
DrEnter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use amok all the time. I've never stopped using amok. When did we stop using amok?
SeekerOfSerenity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is amok really a fossil word, though? It's a loan word from Malay that really only was used in that one expression.
zeekar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it is finally ... Amok Time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The young folk like to post "Big party tonight - gonna run amuck!" - thinking it means to muck around. Ah well, better that than if you were actually going to do some of the descriptions given for "amok".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fools promoting atoms for peace without knowing it.
yParticle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's Amok Time!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These porch monkeys are running amok!
ralphbluecoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AMOK! HIS ARMS OPEN.
radii314 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
original Star Trek - one of the best episodes is Spock needing to mate, title is Amok Time thus the word will never die
aMOK3000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:10 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chill, I've been here the whole time, yo
Armenian-Jensen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:42 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's still used fairly often in the danish language
yay my language has a fossil word!
grandcross ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:21 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/i2PN9tn-NsU
NickFolzie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:44 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been using it for when somebody gets unruly or otherwise out of control. Like someone off their ass drunk.
"Someone stop Joe now, or boy'll be amok within the hour."
Don't know when I started, but'll be keeping this up.
AVPapaya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:03 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
interesting... a racist term against Malaysians by the colonialists... Would not have guessed it.
halluxx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:00:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Count me out - I just don't have the vim.
mojito2 ยท 604 points ยท Posted at 16:44:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I say we bring back gruntled. I am a perfectly gruntled employee, I'm sick of all these disgruntled ones.
[deleted] ยท 346 points ยท Posted at 18:06:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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AppleDane ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 18:52:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get your grunt on, man. Be part of the team.
[deleted] ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 19:25:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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nas-ne-degoniat ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 19:45:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like the recipe for some kind of German word. Bereftgrรผnten, maybe. I like that.
Henkersjunge ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:30:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bereft sounds like "bereift" (with tires on) and grunt is a a deaper oink.
nas-ne-degoniat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:56:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oinkin' with my tires on with my tires on oinkin' all day cause a playa's gotta play bereftgrรผnten
Ninjorico ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:59 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought he was introducing himself; I am Bereft, of Grunt
AmazingChickenWings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:00:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The taint, the grunt, the fleshy fun bridge.
RogueRaven17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna go grunt with hot Stacie in reception...to build team effort or spirit or whatever. We'll be needing a conference room.
ContentEnt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:53:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nongruntled
VanCardboardbox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:50:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neither gruntled or disgruntled - should this not be "agruntuled"?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:41:12 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently the 'dis' is used as an intensifier not an inverter, so to be disgruntled is actually cognate with engruntled.
Richy_T ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Differently gruntled
hero_kenza ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:00:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was gruntled once, then someone disgruntled me. Recently however I was regruntled, and I feel fabulous.
tasha4life ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 18:48:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly! Well, I wouldn't say I'm gruntled per se, I'm just whelmed.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:51:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But are you plussed?
The_Flying_Lunchbox ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:13:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found Robin.
kinkosmyers ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:29:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Feel the aster
mugdays ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you in Europe?
tasha4life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:08 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah. Texas.
scottperezfox ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 19:50:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gruntled and combobulated.
Hikari-SC ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:09:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But in the case of disgruntled, dis- means extra- instead of un-
Gruntle is cognate with grumble, and gruntled inferred a discontented grumbler.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/di-
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gruntle?s=t
snoharm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A little misleading here that you state the prefix "dis" means "extra", which it does not.
What you're actually thinking of, and link to, is that "di-" means "two". As in, "dihydrogen" monoxide or "dilemma".
Salt-Pile ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:40:17 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not who you're talking to but the Oxford English Dictionary confirms what /u/Hikari-SC says:
source: entry on disgruntled
source: entry on 'dis'
itmustbemitch ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:09:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe "gruntled" was never historically a word, and "disgruntled" only looks like it must be a derivative of "gruntled." I'm not opposed to using gruntled when the time is right, but if I'm remembering right it definitely is not bringing it back, it's making it a word in the first place
snoharm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, then the word was want is probably indisgruntled.
ciocinanci ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:28:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'Dis' doesn't always negate the root; sometimes it intensifies it. So if you're disgruntled, you're REALLY gruntled (grumbling).
Riktenkay ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:03:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's dislogical.
ciocinanci ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:50:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention unpossible.
linknmike ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:06:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My, you're looking sheveled today!
HaniiPuppy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:12:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do "Terminate" and "Exterminate" mean the same thing?
TheMisterFlux ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:08:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do flammable and inflammable mean the same thing? That must have caused some incidents, right?
tocilog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:27:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess it depends on what you're ending? You don't exterminate a contract and you don't terminate a termite.
omnilynx ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:08:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't know me.
misterblade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm terrified of all the grundles at work.
minuswhale ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:56 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The word "gruntled" actually came after and from "disgruntled".
WilliamofYellow ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:07:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gruntled in its modern sense of 'pleased' is a back-formation from disgruntled. The word did exist before that, it just meant the same thing as disgruntled. In this case, -dis is an intensifier rather than a negater.
zeekar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:23:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Disgruntled" is an unpaired word; "gruntled" is intentional wordplay, not a fossil.
SirBenet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:26:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of "Kempt"
thebigbradwolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can we get whelmed back? It's just like overwhelmed, but shorter.
Ladd_Pearson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:36 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm not superstitious. But I am a little stitious."
-Michael Scott
skyhimonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:31 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not ruthless, I'm full of ruth
twoseat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:14 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"In my dotage I've become,
inert, defunct, inane.
Oh how I long for times gone by,
ert, funct, and one again"
Salt-Pile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:28 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like they tried to create gruntled in the 1930s
inky95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:46 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You ever read The Disreputable History of Frankie Landau-Banks?
Dolphin_Titties ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:05:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gruntled as fuck me.
My iPhone seems to recognise it
ImInYourAsshole ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:11:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, this joke again
SaintVanilla ยท 1283 points ยท Posted at 14:53:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I spent a long five minutes explaining to my niblings what it meant to roll up your windows.
They were almost unable to comprehend a physical crank that you had to turn.
I felt old and another piece of soul died.
Socky_McPuppet ยท 719 points ยท Posted at 15:21:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My kids, since they were little, have always said "scroll" the window up or down, which is funny because a) they've only ever known cars with power windows and b) for the GUI terminology reference.
ianyboo ยท 453 points ยท Posted at 16:56:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Went to Best Buy one time and saw a little girl of about 3 walk up to a huge TV that was mounted low enough for her to reach easily. She confidently started doing multi touch gestures, when nothing happened she turned to her dad and said "this one is broken"
Melted my heart a little bit. Kids are awesome :)
Bamres ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 18:36:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
There was a video where these parents have their baby playing with an ipad then swapped it for a magazine and it was confused that it couldnt swipe
[deleted] ยท 220 points ยท Posted at 19:10:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Bamres ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 19:12:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was the last playboy with nudes
madhjsp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does playboy not print nudes anymore?
cyberpunking ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 20:07:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Ah the ol' reddit baby-a-roo!
Mocha_Bean ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 20:40:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my magazine; I'm going in!
MuttonTheChops ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:53:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ew... It's sticky.
AnxietyAttack2013 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:23:01 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my diapers I'm going in!
HeyThereMrBrooks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:46:11 on January 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my pacifier, I'm going in
vomberry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:13 on January 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop the presses, I'm going in.
lovesyouandhugsyou ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:57:56 on January 30, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm no baby, but I suppose I was, once.
Daddy, do you remember holding me, loving me?
MyOtherTagsGood ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:46 on February 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No
ProtanopicMidget ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:44:53 on March 1, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PLOT TWIST you were the father the whole time.
MyOtherTagsGood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:13:20 on March 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go deeper, that's where I eventually become the father
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No they swapped the baby for an iPad
SugarCoatedThumbtack ยท 226 points ยท Posted at 17:45:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've had such a hard time teaching the kids which screens are touch and which ones are lcd
[deleted] ยท 301 points ยท Posted at 17:59:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Deep_Fried_Twinkies ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:13:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say 90% of the time if a screen is glossy/shiny/no antireflective coating it is touchscreen and if it is a matte screen it is not a touchscreen. At least for modern devices.
VonZigmas ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:26:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, I wouldn't say 90% of the time. A lot of the average non-touch laptops tend to have glossy displays, not to mention the whole range of apple iMacs and laptops.
Deep_Fried_Twinkies ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man I forgot about iMacs. Different preferences I guess but IDK why anyone would want a non-touch glossy display when you could have matte. I remember I worked with a window to my back at work with an imac and I couldn't see anything but the cars outside the window reflecting on it.
VonZigmas ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:45:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They do add some anti-reflective coating nowadays. Still reflective, but miles better than all the cheap laptops/monitors out there. Anyway, glossy displays do have advantages, such as better contrast and no grain due to the coating. It's kind of a trade off either way, rather than one being superior in every way.
tuckels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:39 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You used to be able to get macbook pros with anti-glare filters (they had a silver bezel instead of black), but it interfered a lot with colour reproduction. The rMBPs have a laminated screen & have much less glare compared to the older ones due to lack of air gap.
hahagato ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:27:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kindle paperwhite is matte and touch screen.
Deep_Fried_Twinkies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:54 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn! It's one of those non capacitive screens though right?
YakumoYoukai ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 18:15:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only about half the screens I interact with regularly are touch, but I find myself reaching toward to my non-touch screens all the time, and have to stop myself.
HRH_Puckington ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:24:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
like two years ago my mom bought me a tablet and that night i was pretty stoned and playing on my new tablet while watching cartoons on my computer and i wanted to pause the cartoons so i reached up and tapped the screen. Like a second later i realized why it didnt work and laughed about it then tapped the screen again forgetting that it wasn't a touch screen
callitromance ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 18:58:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes I try to scroll down on books and magazines and I'm 26...
the_real_woody ยท 390 points ยท Posted at 19:08:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You're just an idiot
Sorry4Spam296 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:16:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
your won two talk!
ThirdFloorGreg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*tock
boomerbower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As an Australian, I would correct it as 'torque'.
ThirdFloorGreg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:23 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're Australian, you say all kinds of stupid shit.
nate800 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:23:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And idiot, eh?
thebiggestandniggest ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:40:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Took way too long to edit.
Congratulations, you played yourself.
SpiralingShape ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and how!
Jackpot777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You. Are. A. TOYYYYYY!
Hegiman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too. Mostly magazines.
Thorin_Oakenshield ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:41:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've done the same and I'm in my thirties.
rocketvat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read so much on my kindle now that i have to resist the urge to touch words in books that I want to know the definition of.
allsortsashit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:35:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm over forty and use reverse pinch gesture on restaurant menus to zoom in and read.
PoopAndSunshine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm also over forty and I do this too
Englishmuffin1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, missed your comment. I just posted above that I tried pinch zooming an image in a magazine recently. I'm 27.
YakumoYoukai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The best is when you try to click on a printed web address.
DishwasherTwig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:11 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've tried to ctrl + f textbooks so many times.
Jigsus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:55:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Microsoft tried to impose touchscreens on all devices as a standard but they were crucified for it.
Na3s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use speech to text for most of my quick searches on my phone, but when I'm using a remote control I always want to speak into it.
goldandguns ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:29:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you do when it's an LCD touch screen?
Riktenkay ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:15:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which most are, surely?
WhitTheDish ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:33:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I ran into this problem the other day at the gas station. The pump had a fancy new LCD screen in the center but the key pad was on the right side about a foot away hidden under the gas nozzle. I thought it might be a touch screen so I tried hitting my payment selection. Nope, not a touch screen. I felt like an idiot and hoped no one saw that.
ChaosCon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've had a hard time teaching my mom which screens are touch and which ones are lcd.
SanityInAnarchy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I expect this to get worse, not better. I have a Chromebook Pixel, which means it's a normal-ish laptop (no fancy detachable hinge, no way to make it into a proper tablet) that has a touchscreen for some reason. I never used to reach for the screen on Macbooks, but now I do.
camdoodlebop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the smaller the screen the more likely it is touch-activated
d4rch0n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't you just generalize and say the ones that are smaller than a computer monitor, and rarely monitors?
SugarCoatedThumbtack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We have a couple large touch screen computers that look just like tvs really
msiri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:02 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a hard time teaching my mother this- always tries touching the screen when I show her something on my laptop
Gallifrasian ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:17:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest, it's hard to tell sometimes when you don't know the model and details. I'm very technologically capable (I've never used that phrase before...) and I have to try it out sometimes to see if it's touch screen. I have a touch screen laptop, tablet, phone, and T.V. I also have regular non-touch screen versions of all 4. My friends get confused because I keep the screens clean on everything. I get a giggle in seeing fingerprints on non-touchscreens every now and then as I think about how ridiculous they look trying to figure out why their touch isn't registering.
clownshoesrock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With the salesmen in earshot, call it fossil technology.
seamustheseagull ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:42:38 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My 3 year old will be watching a series on Netflix and between episodes, she's pressing on the damn TV screen to get the next one to start. We tell her every time that it's not a touchscreen, but she keeps pressing and eventually the show comes on and she turns around with a big smug look on her face. She'll get it one day.
goldandguns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
Englishmuffin1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 27 and it tried making a magazine picture bigger by pinch-zooming. In my defence, I was extremely tired and had just been on my tablet! My wife still won't let me live it down though.
Evilsmile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw this same thing with a kid trying to swipe the menu at PF Chang's.
PolandPole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Little bitch smudging the screen
mslack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen kids waving their hands in front of paper towel dispensers that need to be pushed. They are so confused.
bobsp ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:00:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You misspelled stupid.
SuperSatanOverdrive ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 17:45:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They see me scrollin'
my windows
Nosfermarki ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 19:04:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now they know I'm over thirty.
MuradinBronzecock ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 19:09:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They trying to catch me typin' qwerty.
lawnessd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:13:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sittin', here shittin, I'm tryin, I'm cryin. I keep on wipin' dirty, I keep on wipin' dirty, . . .
cynthash ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:40:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know they all think I'm white and nerdy.
slowmoon ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 16:01:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's really cool, but I doubt anyone besides them in the world says that.
Socky_McPuppet ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 16:13:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it was a tangential thought.
uber_space_whale ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 16:47:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
turpitude thought*
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're an idiom!
utterdamnnonsense ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:45:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna start using this.
EclipseIndustries ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:33:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now I need to make a touchscreen arduino device and put in power windows. Thanks Obama.
brainstorm42 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:25:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't give automakers ideas for more gimmicks.
GlobalWarmer12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:23:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just wait till you show them an actual scroll and explain the origin of the verb
zeekar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:11:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly, I was amused when I noticed that my kids, when playing active pretend run-around games, would call "Pause!" instead of "Time-Out!".
Richy_T ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:05:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think I'm ever going to patent it but I've had an idea for a scroll wheel interface for car windows for a long time
JordHardwell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:33:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scroll? Savages.
You wind a window up. you scroll through the reddit comments.
luckierbridgeandrail ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:55:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You scroll through reddit comments, but you wind up reddit commenters.
Smark_Henry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scroll itself is kinda like a fossil word in a way, since it refers to papyrus scrolls.
Lacagada ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:28 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And The GUI term "scroll" comes from the old pair of papyrus rolls that you would read by unrolling the bottom and Rolling up the top.
jesjimher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:06 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's funny, because even "scrolling" will be an obsolete concept when all screens are touchscreens, and there're no more mouse wheels to scroll with.
Kdings ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 16:50:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a 2009 mini van with crank windows. They're still alive.
beancounter2885 ยท 119 points ยท Posted at 17:12:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They still sell new cars with crank windows.
Kdings ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 17:24:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Id imagine theyre still popular in compacts and work trucks/vans.
timmyfred ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 17:28:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, I've got a Silverado WT package that has power nothing, no carpet, just a bare bones truck.
Dick_Earns ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:10:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same. Sold my keyless push button car where the fob never left my pocket when I got my work truck and promptly locked the keys in it 3 times in 4 months. Now I have a spare in my toolbox.
timmyfred ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:51:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't even count how many times I've locked my keys in my truck since I got this one...I put a magnetic box on the truck to save me. The one time I took the box off, I locked my keys in the truck 200 miles from the spare.
madhjsp ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:31:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No power steering? That sounds like a bitch to drive.
frickindeal ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makes sense since WT actually stands for "Work Truck."
Duuhh_LightSwitch ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:09:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a reason for the preference for crank in those specific types of vehicle?
Broduski ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 18:13:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Less complex, cheaper, and more reliable.
[deleted] ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 18:23:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still work in -20 C weather.
/yeah, I'm Canadian.
ArttuH5N1 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:44:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, cranks are great for under zero weather.
hafetysazard ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:32:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can still open/close the window with mitts!
Drink-my-koolaid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:58:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First World Problems: My window is frozen shut. Now I have to open my car door to order my extra large mocha latte in the drive thru at Starbucks! Ughhh!
trua ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But why would you want to open a window in that weather?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:18:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Off the top of my head:
Vent out moisture that's fogging up/frosting up the inside of the car (set heater to max.) Simply setting the heater to external air doesn't always work the best, especially when you have a bunch of people in the car with wet clothes and boots.
Roll down window -> snow/lightly caked on ice comes off without having to scrape it off.
Use drive through window at Tim Hortons (because it's frickin' Canada)
I take it you don't live in a place that gets real winter?
trua ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:56 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Finland, but I don't own a car and I rarely drive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, OK. Yeah, Finland probably has more "real" winter than where 50% of the Canadian population lives.
Voltrondemort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So bike or transit?
Riktenkay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. My car has crank windows in the back, and electric ones in the front. The front left one is broken.
Broduski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neon?
Kdings ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 18:16:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work trucks dont need those conviences. They are meant to be as cheap as possible because they get beaten up a lot anyway. Same with compact cars. No ac, cruise control, power windows etc can save a coupel thousand on the price.
jooloop ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 19:38:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The "no a/c" is basically a thing of the past in the U.S. IIRC, the only model available without a/c is the Dart, and those are pretty rare.
Edit: totally forgot about the Wrangler. And I think it's possible to get a Spark without A/C. Still, they usually have to be special ordered.
Randomfinn ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:51:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had to special order my (brand new) Toyota from Japan in order to get it without AC, made me wait a month. The dealer could not believe I didn't want AC; said mine was the only new non existent AC they had ever sold.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:35:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did they put a frowny face where the button was?
Randomfinn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:27 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol!
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:28:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or every used car I get after 2 weeks.
Draked1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:35:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They still sell wranglers without AC
sephlington ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:17:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Electronics are less reliable than pure mechanical systems, and those types of vehicles are more thought of as reliable.
peanutbudder ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:13:56 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No electronics to wear out.
nastynate66 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:19:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know my mom avoided power windows for a long time because apparently if you crash into water the power windows wont roll down. No idea if this is true, or if people still hold this belief though.
bitcleargas ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:29:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The doors will still open if you're not fully submerged and you heave them hard enough. Also, when the car fills to a certain amount and the pressure equalises the doors can be opened again.
The real trick is not to drive your car into deep areas of water.
Assanater601 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:33:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear, got car stuck in ceiling fan.
Ralph_Charante ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:09:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a Mythbusters episode on this. You wouldn't be able to roll down the windows with a crank or by normal car power. You'd need to hookup a car battery to just power the window thing in order to be able to roll it down.
ViceroyFizzlebottom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom has the same paranoia.
UncleNorman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you hit the water, roll down the windows before you sink.
tardologist42 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if you're struck by lightening the windows won't open. you'll get to crisp inside trapped by power windows and power locks that don't open.
jalalipop ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:12:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your car is struck by lightning you'll be fine so long as you stay inside. It's basically a mobile Faraday cage.
kung-fu_hippy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:10:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Base models often don't have power anything. It saves weight and helps car companies claim that a specific model of vehicle gets a certain gas mileage. Sometimes you can't even get those base models at dealerships without specially ordering them.
abledanger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cheap as possible.
frogsrbetter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The motor won't die, leaving you unable to roll up a window.
WhyYouLetRomneyWin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:23 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I personally would always prefer a crank over an electric switch.
It's more reliable, less likely to malfunction, and much cheaper to repair if it does. And it's really not that difficult to crank a window. I mean, it saves like 1 second of light cranking?
Perhaps it's nice if you have kids in a mini-van, so that the driver can control all windows. Otherwise I think cranks are much more practical.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:31:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Duuhh_LightSwitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That answer isn't really specific to those kinds of cars though
zkiller195 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even in most compacts they are very rare (not even available in most anymore). Subcompacts often still have them available in base trims (cars like the Kia Rio and Ford Fiesta), but even so the take rate is very low since there is usually a cheap tech package available that adds power windows, locks, a key fob, and maybe a couple other things for just a few hundred bucks.
I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a passenger car left on the new car market with manual windows in 5 years. They hardly cost the manufacturer anything to make, plus with the take rate so low, it may make sense for them to drop it from an engineering and tooling standpoint (it's less parts they have to make for something that hardly sells).
They'll probably stick around in work trucks, vans, and Wranglers though. Many buyers of those vehicles don't care a bit about power windows (or other options), and the take rate on them is much higher with manual windows, locks, etc.
Jaysee09 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:55:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or if your bank account takes a while to transfer.
Kdings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What?
drumstyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Base model trucks still have em. Funny though, because the mechanism costs more than electric windows, they just want to make you pay for it.
MayorMoonbeam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No doubt Honda and Toyota still want like $1500 for power windows and locks...
teh_tg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just rented a U-Haul truck with crank windows.
bonelorderon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a 2013 hatchback with cranks.
alanaa92 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:08:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard they're safer for being submerged in water. The electronic windows stop working whereas the crank ones don't.
zcbtjwj ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 19:00:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
makes sense but i can't see that having much weight in my decison on which car to buy
Riktenkay ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:18:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're just less likely to stop working in general.
Vectoor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:07:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the mythbuster episode on that I think the cranks didn't work either. Just too much pressure on the window.
Redbulldildo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They would work if you could apply anywhere near enough torque to use them.
BasketeerOverHere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even the 2015 Ford Focus's back windows are manual.
KonigSteve ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:58:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My 2009 mazda 3 has crank windows, no power locks, no cruise control.. It's the worst. but it's paid off so there's that.
MisterDonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of car only has three windows?
KonigSteve ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:45:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mazda 3 is the model
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
2014 Jeep Wrangler with crank Windows checking in!
detecting_nuttiness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend who owns a car with both crank windows and USB charging ports. It was a strange car. I don't remember the model, though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:00 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My 09 cobalt has crank Windows and manual locks.
hairy1ime ยท 236 points ยท Posted at 15:11:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is a nibling?
Realtrain ยท 420 points ยท Posted at 15:16:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gender neutral for nephew and niece.
SnoozerHam ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 18:58:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are your cousins' parents auncles?
Pedalphiles ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:02:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pibling is the most commonly used term, I believe. More "parents' siblings" instead of "cousins' parents".
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:26:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 19:31:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Riktenkay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:20:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trauncles!
SailedBasilisk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:58:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you could call them "cousins," in a more general sense.
FatalTragedy ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 20:17:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that actually a thing? I just assumed he made a typo while typing sibling
Seizure_Salad_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:38:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it is a real thing. I use it on occasion while doing genealogy work. CGP Grey has a video that has this word
Abnmlguru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually a thing. A completely adorable sounding thing.
TheStorMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a real thing.
SlyFrauline ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:38 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a thing
Phillipinsocal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is this an actual fucking thing?
Dinaverg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:33 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't fuck your niblings.
goldandguns ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 19:30:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What a shitty term
bottiglie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:38:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
OVERWRITE What is this?
thesagaconts ยท -58 points ยท Posted at 17:49:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Is that the PC way of saying niece and nephew? I really can't keep up with al the new terminology. That's how I know I crossed a generation gap and have been out of college long enough. Edit: thanks everyone. I had a meeting recently where everyone said their names then listed their pronouns. I felt out of touch.
Vakz ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 17:55:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a new word, nor did it come up to be PC. It's just the word for a siblings children, like how siblings isn't the PC version of "brothers and sisters".
Realtrain ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:58:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More like, instead of brothers and sisters you could say siblings.
ScipioAfricanvs ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 17:54:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No it's an easy way to say nieces and nephews.
Davegrave ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 17:56:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not pc. Just briefer. Siblings instead of brothers and sisters, nibblings instead of nieces and nephews. It's not about being gender neutral as much as it is about being a handy all in one.
SaintVanilla ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:54:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not PC...I just really think it's a cool word.
8oz_of_sweet_heroin ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:55:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's just an easier way to Nieces and Nephews, not really PC terminology
gorampardos ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:07:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It's not for the sake of being PC and it'd certainly not new. It's mostly used in its plural form in lieu of saying "my nieces and nephews." Just like saying "my siblings" instead of "my brothers and sisters."
thrasumachos ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:31:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, maybe you do, Oed.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:03:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How the heck is "niblings" PC?Is "siblings" a more PC way to say brother and sister? It's just less syllables. When all you have is a hammer...
thesagaconts ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 18:07:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The person above said it was gender neutral. I assumed it was a way of being gender neutral about your niece and nephew since those are gender specific words. That fact that I had to explain that to you..,
FloaterFloater ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:31:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Lol you're an idiot. If someone told you the word 'sibling' was gender neutral would your mind jump to it being 'PC'?
How in the hell could that be construed as a creation of the current PC movement? The fact that your mind jumped to that conclusion tells me you aren't so bright. It seems you don't understand the concept of what gender-neutral means.. cousin is a gender-neutral word. Sibling is a gender-neutral word. Grandparent is a gender-neutral word.
somadIcanteven ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:54:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the rather obvious comparison to sibling, which differs from nibling by one letter, didn't cross that person's mind. They jumped immediately to PC hate.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was probably just a silly knee jerk reaction to hearing 'gender neutral' because there are a lot of idiots who are completely obsessed with making everything gender neutral because mentioning specific genders bothers them or something.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:33:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fact that you didn't just look up the meaning of the fucking word when you're already on the goddamn internetโฆ
thesagaconts ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:36:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That fact that you're that angry about it.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:18:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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thesagaconts ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so much anger
thelonious_skunk ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 17:10:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a really small bite
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:21:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Half a byte
Boukish ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 15:17:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your sibling's child.
SpiralingShape ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:33:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or your spouse's sibling's child
thrasumachos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:28:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A villain from a Wagner opera.
Helios-Apollo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's what happens when turpitude runs amok.
Kehndy12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't take the word nibling too seriously because all dictionaries don't recognize the word.
But, as others have said, it means niece or nephew according to Wiktionary.
RichardRogers ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:54:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a word for nieces and nephews, but only awkward people use it.
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 17:32:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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AManHasSpoken ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 18:29:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And then hang it up.
smithee2001 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:21:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rewind that video.
serosis ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 17:27:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are still some new cars that come with hand-cranks.
Bottom of the affordable barrel Toyotas and Hondas.
t0asterb0y ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 18:00:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They. Don't. Fucking. Break.
JohnProof ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 18:12:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As somebody who managed to accidentally throw the crank knob out onto the highway while rolling the window down, I disagree.
t0asterb0y ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 18:16:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well i exaggerated for effect, but even if they do break it's after 12 to 15 years of abuse and you can always go to Autozone and clip a new one on in a half hour. Electric window broke? That'll be $300, please.
urmombaconsmynarwhal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:55:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
300 lol k maybe for a 1995 Honda civic
Cahnn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to have an alligator clamp on mine.
Brayzure ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I replaced the entire motor assembly for my power window for $50 and a half hour of my time. They're not hard to replace.
t0asterb0y ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:32:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Key word "I". For most people, a door disassembly is quite intimidating, while replacing a broken crank arm is simple enough for most amateurs.
pit_trap ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:16:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The first time I disassembled a door to my car was to replace a smashed window. I didn't have much of a clue what I was doing (in the age before YouTube and no repair experience), and I broke pretty much all the clips to the panel and couldn't get the damned thing back on.
I wound up driving that car around with no interior panel until I junked it less than a year later. Today I use a repair manual and reference as much as I can online and as it turns out many repair jobs aren't very difficult at all. Makes me look back at my teenaged self and shake my head!
iglidante ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:26:25 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have a place to work on your car, the time and patience to buy parts, and the skill to do the actual work. For your average apartment-dweller with no garage or driveway, no workspace, and a need to drive their car every single day without fail - maybe not so much.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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JohnProof ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Old, beat-up hooptie where the crank windows were getting stiff and difficult to roll down.
Was putting some muscle into turning the handle when the knob snapped clean off.
Of course, of all the places it could go it shot out the 4" gap I'd just managed to open in the window and landed somewhere on the expressway, never to be seen again.
Not_the_brightest ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:14:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They really don't.
I don't have to worry about software glitches causing my car to accelerate past the speed of sound when the gas pedal is connected to the throttle valve by an unbent clothes hangar.
Black_Floyd47 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After driving in Texas in the summer with broken power windows, I'm only buying cars with manual windows from now on.
monsata ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriend's old car's window crank was a pair if vice grips clamped onto the bolt.
The plastic definitely breaks, but the actual mechanism is solid as a rock.
serosis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They are quicker too.
I have thought about putting an actuator on one just to see how fast they can roll up or down before they break.
frostycakes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lies, my first car (a 2003 Focus) had one of its window cranks break off. Had to replace the entire mechanism too, no snapping in a new handle there.
boyhaveacigar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure about Toyota's, but even base Honda's have power windows in the US.
serosis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:36:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is a requestable option.
boyhaveacigar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is? I'm a former Honda salesman and wasn't an option when I sold them.
izzismitty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My Nissan Versa has hand-cranked windows. I love them.
uhhrace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:18 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's base model 2011 Nissan Versa has them.
bobtheghost33 ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 17:07:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just glad the word niblings is spreading. Gotta close dem lexical gaps.
demauscian ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 18:22:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Should have ended that with "Y'all"
Sand_Trout ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 18:51:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Y'all is spreading. It's filling the grammatical niche of 2nd Person Plural than English generally lacks.
And it's a whole lot better than "yous guys".
jtb3566 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:21:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Y'all is such a useful word. I hate when people yell at me that it's not a word. You know what it means and it completes my sentence perfectly without the need for awkward wording.
rasori ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:39:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"You all" is awkward?
Crystal_Rose ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:16:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Likely unnecessarily formal sounding given the context.
jtb3566 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mostly it's just weird to me that English doesn't have a singular word to express 'you all' like most other languages, so the contraction feels better to me.
RocketLawnchairs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:43:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
everyone who speaks Spanish except the Spaniards also lacks the second person plural that is distinguished from the third person plural.
RolandTargaryen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was that ustedes?
I don't remember much from highschool Spanish.
RocketLawnchairs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:59:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yes. in Spain they have the unique word vosotros
RolandTargaryen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:07 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THATS WHAT IT WAS!
Each year the different Spanish teacher would use a different dialect based on where they learned Spanish.
Spanish 1- Costa Rica
Spanish 2- Spain
Spanish 3- Southeast US
Spanish 4- Dominican Republic
Spanish 5- I don't even remember now.
We learned about vosotros in 9th grade and then never again.
RocketLawnchairs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:39 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hahaha. that's really unfortunate. some people use different words for tรบ; they say vos instead.
also some people pronounce verbs differently depending on the geographical location (they accent different syllables)
jtb3566 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:43 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I guess I really only know German and french
Dev-Lyn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:06:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i started using it, and i'm way up in Canada. Mostly only typing it out though.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:25:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm piggybacking off your comment to say this:
"Y'all" is filling the gap of a 2nd person plural pronoun in English that used to exist just as the word "you". "You" (or ye) was plural, while "thou" was singular. This is simplified a bit as these words weren't always pronounced the same as they are now back when they still had this singular/plural distinction.
Then the French-speaking Normans invaded and with them they brought the idea of using the plural form of pronouns as a more respectful singular pronoun. So now we had "thou" (informal singular) and "you" (plural or formal singular). And eventually "thou" stopped being used (by most English speakers, but there's still populations that use it as well as plural "ye"), and "you" became solely singular.
HLDLonghorn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:30:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a Texan, this makes me happy!
Muffinizer1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like you guys. It's the northern version of y'all and I feel like it fits better with the language, but that's just me.
alexthealex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Y'all is gender neutral.
Muffinizer1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least where I'm from, you guys is gender neutral too. I often hear girls say you guys referring to a group of only girls. It's not really an issue.
UsernameTooShort ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never said y'all. Nobody in my entire life has ever asked me whether I was referring to just them or the entire group.
stevemcqueer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Historically, 'you' is itself plural. 'Thou' is the English second person singular. English doesn't lack pronouns as much as it decided it didn't need them. It's roughly equivalent to the way French people use 'tu' as a singular, informal pronoun and 'vous' as a plural or formal pronoun. But because people only see 'thou' in old books and things they assume it's a more formal or proper way of talking.
heroines_complain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:01:24 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm also a fan of y'all's when you need to disambiguate whether you're referring to a possession of, say, the individual you're emailing vs. the group they're with (e.g. "we can bring y'all's bags with us).
justarandomgeek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:14:58 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I took German in high school, my teacher used "y'all" for this purpose, to help in distinguishing the German equivalents. It was a little weird to hear him say "y'all" with a rather strong German accent.
yParticle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We lost "you people" so had to move south for our second person plural.
AnxietyAttack2013 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:23 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone from New Jersey I prefer "yous guys"
Hegiman ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:05:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeeee-hawwwwwww! Y'all done gone done and did it now.
Sand_Trout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya ain't gotta be like that.
TheWaterBottler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:50:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And honestly you dont have to be like that
ys1qsved3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good God, you all.
CyanideNow ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:49:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still waiting for a good term for the gender-neutral singular of cattle. "Bovine" just feels clumsy.
Bodoblock ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:46:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If they didn't understand what "roll up your windows" meant, what did they use to convey the same message?
"Raise the window"?
360Saturn ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 18:03:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe just 'open' and 'close'
Bodoblock ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 18:05:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well shit lol. That was obvious. I feel a little silly now haha.
mertag770 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:09:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably something like "Close the window!"
Bodoblock ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:14:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too late, son! Other guy beat you to it! I feel shame no more!
mertag770 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:16:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I should read before I post I suppose.
nastynate66 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They could have still used roll just not known why the term was used.
almightySapling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They probably knew the phrase but didn't understand the reason.
Ixidane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The kids would shout "Windows DEACTIVATE!" At the top of their little lungs.
blufox ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:45:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"roll" is not a fossil word, it is used in "roll up the map or a curtain" or "roll of film" and others too.
DonOntario ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:51:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, maybe not so much in "roll of film" anymore, but you're right.
blufox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, films have also gone the way of dodo, but at least we still buy rolls of toilet paper :).
DonOntario ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't know about the three seashells!?
aaronrenoawesome ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A little over a year ago I finally bought a car with power windows - after having about twenty or so cars with manual windows (and locks).
I absolutely love the car, but I hate having to deal with the power windows.
RunningBases ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It took me too long to realize you weren't talking about house windows
paiute ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing a number.
Putting on the feed bag.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:51:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here for you:
little girl can't hang up phone
paiute ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:38:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter, raised on CDs of course, was playing an old vinyl album on an old turntable. She liked the tunes, so we told her to turn it over and listen to the other side. She says incredulously, 'There's another side?'
DonOntario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of little kids now would not even be familiar with CDs.
blufox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We still have dials and gauges. So dial isn't fossilized. We also use both feed and bag separately, so they aren't either.
patrickkellyf3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My 2009 car still has roll up windows, they're still around.
clownshoesrock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On April Fools Microsoft should activate the manual crank scrolling. Where you need to mouse in circles on the scroll bar. If you try to page up and down, it just locks the screen (like a kid pressing the door lock button, when there is no window control)
OktoberSunset ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But windows cranks still exist in the rear doors of many small cars or in commercial vehicles. Put those brats in a budget van and the little bitches will soon learn how to roll down a window.
Jamaicaman90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a newish 5 door car, and the back seat windows are roll ups. It's a Nissan Micra. Have they just not been in more than one car?
Garek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They still make cars with roll up windows, they're just cheap. Poor kids will still now what rolling up your window means.
thumpas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 17 and I have two friends with manual locks and windows in their cars. I get that most people don't, but it seems like more people should at least be aware of it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My parents used to have a car with a crank until a few years ago.
Pnk-Kitten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why don't more people like the word nibling? It accurately describes a large group of nieces and nephews. It is shorter to write, it is gender neutral, and can be used for pregnancies where the gender of the baby is unknown. It can also be singular or made plural.
DoctorSteve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Show then the Conan/Kevin Hart video
jelvinjs7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think I've ever seen the word 'nibling' used in actual context for its purpose before (as opposed to people merely pointing out that it's a word). A piece of your soul may have died, but you just lighted up a part of mine.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They should come hang out with my family. We're so broke our car still has roll up windows.
akharon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do they think about hanging up the phone?
spartan6222 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I drive a car with crank windows....it is from '91 but still
IAmMadeOfNope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me sad, my first car was a $500 beat-er-up i got from a my next-door neighbor after her husband died
And it STILL had window buttons, seat buttons, autolocks
hafetysazard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We don't, "dial," phone numbers anymore, we key them in. We don't, "hang up," on people, we disconnect calls. However, I think those terms will outlive us, even the symbols for telephones will continue on, even though the people no longer recognize the symbol as a being the receiver. One day someone will make a post, "what does the telephone symbol represent?"
Henkersjunge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still hang up my phone at home.
Cragnous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My car still rolls it's windows, my wife has this fear of falling in water.
siamthailand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Must be stupid as shit.
DonOntario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not what OP is talking about with fossil words.
You've given a good example of something similar - an expression that used to make literal sense but now doesn't because of changing technology.
But OP is talking about single words that used to be common and now have pretty much died out, but that happen to live on only as a part of common expressions.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The forgotten struggle of not being able to roll the passenger window down.
Anothergen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always found it odd when people say that "a piece of their soul died" when they see the next generation have no need for knowledge of something from their generation. Time marches on, they don't need to know it, and that is a beautiful thing in and of itself. There will come a day that every single one of us alive today won't be here anymore, and I'd like to believe that the world will be a very different, and better place at that time.
yoguy2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone!
Jstaver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many new toyota trucks still have crank windows... It's just different kinds of cars
qoou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! Same thing happened to me. I rented a U-Haul and it had crank Windows. Told my son to roll up the window. He couldn't figure out how.
picardo85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn you and your fancy modern car(s) with all the bells and whistles. Here I am, 30y/o with a 30 y/o Mazda with hand cranked windows.
Contrite17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still have physical cranks :(
almightySapling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid my mom's friend took me out bowling, she drove a jeep with a cover. The phrase "unzip your window" cracked me the fuck up.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's cause you roll your finger back
V4refugee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:36 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My current car has roll down windows. I feel poor.
words_words_words_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:59 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh hey you're the patron saint of /r/SaintVanilla!
baconnmeggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:46 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love "niblings" and it should come back into style
I_will_slap_you ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:24 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should tell them why you say "rewind" when you want to skip back a scene in a movie.
RIPGeorgeHarrison ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 18 an I remember those being in some cars.
I don't want to feel old now.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:27:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shut up, kiddo.
NeShep ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:00:56 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're in luck because they're still making cars every day with them.
jrhoffa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Feed bags?
Runamokamok ยท 286 points ยท Posted at 19:36:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my username is finally relevant in a post.
dpenton ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:17:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use it well!
TheShmud ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:23:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well now how about that
cool_hand_legolas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:37:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that's the best you can do?
aMOK3000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:20:43 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mine too!
Quite underwhelming, really.
and_rice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:31:01 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Run.
panzerkampfwagen ยท 337 points ยท Posted at 13:37:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It lists bygones but people still use that.
"It reminded me of bygone days."
Honk_If_Top_Comment ยท 253 points ยท Posted at 13:45:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let begonias be begonias
BitchpuddingBLAM ยท 135 points ยท Posted at 17:41:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Worst case Ontario
[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 19:04:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mississippi gave Missouri a New Jersey, so what did Delaware?
I don't know, Alaska.
benchley ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 19:40:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nebraska question you don't want answered.
rekaba117 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:55:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the Maine point.
Viking_Lordbeast ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:15:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's cheating. You Kansas use a straight-up homophone.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:22 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ohio -nly wanted to say I agree.
royalobi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can I just say that I spent several minutes reading through this joke with variations of timing and accent until I found the right tone that made the joke work. And then I felt really bad about having done that. :|
jaysalos ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 20:02:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not rocket appliances
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:22:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Survival of the fitness, bud.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:09 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat or be beaten. The circuit of life.
ReginaldJ_Trotsfield ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:58:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't matter anymore. It's all water under the fridge.
KickAssCommie ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:13:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Something, something, petunia's?
kajeslorian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Oh no. Not again."
KickAssCommie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:44:29 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya see the problem is really quite clear sir/ma'am. We lost our grip on the barbarians the minute we allowed that Ghandi fellow to lead India to independence. It was reasonable at the time as he had the upper hand with an arsenal of nuclear weapons and a trigger happy attitude. With Ghandi gone, these nukes are no longer relevant. We can now subdue the remaining archaic tribes with little resistance. It was simply a waiting game; we have been waiting patiently. The time to strike is now.
zeptimius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let big ones be big ones.
weapongod30 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like some denial and error.
SLOTH_POTATO_PIRATE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scarlett Begonias is my favorite Grateful Dead song!
Sedirex_KR ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 16:43:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It listed bygone the noun. Bygone the adjective is still alive, albeit on life support.
FjolnirsBath ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 15:23:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a fossil in two idioms.
slowmoon ยท 106 points ยท Posted at 16:20:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
No, I think you're both right. You can use "bygone era" or "bygone time." You can use it to refer to any bygone period. You can talk about a bygone romance. Bygone love, if you will. Bygone, as an adjective is still perfectly cromulent. But bygone as a noun only exists in that one phrase. No one would ever say "Why do you keep bringing up bygones?" It's fossilized as a noun but still in use meaning "former" as an adjective (if a bit literary).
74BMWBavaria ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 16:52:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lets let bygones be bygones ;).
Phocks7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:08 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let Qui Gon's be bygones
HaniiPuppy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:10:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I do hear people say things like "Bringing up bygones", as a reference to things they feel should be forgotten.
camdoodlebop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:18:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
mmm cromulent
Readvoter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, just because something can be used doesn't mean it isn't fossilized. For example, I can only guess the meaning of bygone love.
bottiglie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:42:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
OVERWRITE What is this?
ThePantsThief ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think this word is quite there yet
Socky_McPuppet ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 15:19:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since it is generally obsolete, but remains in use because of an idiom (or perhaps two), it's not in everyday use, and is a fossil word, just like the headline says.
Discoamazing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of the words on this list are still used outside of their idioms, at least by nerds and/or writers.
Examples include: wreak, bandy, craw, and sleight.
Ibrah1mMoizoos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let guy bonds be guy bonds
lowpass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let bygones be begones
Pufflekun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure more people use the word "bygone" than the phrase "moral turpitude."
carver1976 ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 18:01:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Champing" at the bit would be another one, if everybody didn't say "chomping" instead, anyway...
Dolphin_Titties ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 19:04:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thaaaaank you. I put 'champing at the bit' in a song and got several journalists pointing it out and chortling in interviews, saying it should be chomping. Chomping sounds fucking terrible
piezocuttlefish ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:10:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact! In SE Kansas and SW Missouri they say "fawnching at the bit". I didn't think it was a real word at first . . . .
Ephemradio ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:12:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Champing:
2.fret impatiently.
Considering the 'bit' is what goes in a horses mouth, and the phrase refers to how horses will chew on their bit while eager, I can't help but think that these words are in fact the same word. Any horse that is champing at its bit is also chomping on it. "Chomping at the bit" is a perfectly reasonable metaphor, and a perfectly reasonable phrase, and it sounds fine if you aren't an elitist dick.
carver1976 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:37 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From someone who is obviously threatened by not knowing something...
Ephemradio ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:11:36 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jokes on you, I already knew. I knew when I was a young boy learning to ride and keep a horse. I knew from being an educated person who went to a school and could read. I knew back in 2011 when My Little Pony was all the rage with the kids. I knew yesterday, before this post.
How about maybe if you disagree you should address the actual point being made, instead of casting aspersions. The fancy term for what you did was ad hominem, and it should be beneath you.
carver1976 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:13 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, what a burn. You sure burned me...I am burnt.
spaghettiputs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:16:13 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you also afraid of criticism?
Ephemradio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:17:47 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Just denying that I didn't know something, and was threatened.
theeace ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:29:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Calm your dolphin tits.
iamchaossthought ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:40:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tittays*
misterjett ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:44:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Katie?
makeshift11 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:51:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tron?
Silocon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:18:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are people who think it's '"chomping" at the bit'?? And they're journalists?
elephant-tusk ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:33:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well yes, considering "chomping at the bit" shows up 20x more often than the "champing" variant on the web.
carver1976 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:53:04 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can also find people on the Web who think 9/11 was an inside job. So there's that...
codpieceface ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes it must have gone over like a damp squid
jmconeby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:37:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, they both mean the same thing and "to chomp" is actually just a variant of "to champ".
Dolphin_Titties ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:41:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chomping feels like a kiddie word somehow
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:20:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only to an elitist prick
L43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:36 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess you say chomp.
TheStorMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What does this mean?
Dolphin_Titties ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:45:36 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Raring to go
rebaloisesays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who are you?
NSFForceDistance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who... Who are you???
skippythemoonrock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"who is champing"
"THAT QUESTION WILL BE ANSWERED THIS SUNDAY NIGHT"
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They mean the same thing though don't they.
burts_beads ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:12:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google Dictionary tells me it's another term for chomp. So how's it different?
GeeJo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:29:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One is used in a rhyming riddle by Bilbo Baggins, and one isn't.
swiftb3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, that's about the only place I've heard "champ" used.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:13:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's my point. It means the same thing so it doesn't actually matter which one you use.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:42 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't matter, you asked a sincere question on reddit. The downvote masses are going to run amok!
APiousCultist ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why people that complain about it are actually a bit thick and missing the point of an idiom actually having a meaning. See also: 'Card shark' vs 'card sharp', where the latter word has the exact same meaning (outside of the context of marine animals).
greeklemoncake ยท 218 points ยท Posted at 17:53:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Name one thing you can 'wreak', other than 'havoc'.
desertlynx ยท 378 points ยท Posted at 18:20:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
vengeance
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Snake.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:16:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sheperd.
DragoonDM ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:29:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Potter.
minasmorath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Malfoy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:51 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. That's reap.
desertlynx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:11 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vengeance is used as an example in the first definition of wreak.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:02 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. Well what do you know. TIL that my English teacher was emphatically wrong. Interesting. He had a solid reason for it being reap though. Gaining vengeance is like reaping a reward.
BIG-DATA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:35:53 on January 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You dont really gain vengeance, you exact it. And think about it, you wouldnt say youre 'gaining revenge'.
But seriously, its an act, you perform it. And even if that is grammatically correct,
when read out of context its ambiguous weather gaining vengeance means you're on the giving or receiving end of it.dont know why i said that, its not ambiguous, obviously youre not on the receiving end of it.edit: on the other hand people say "i will have my revenge" so theres a good chance i was wrong about all that^
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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desertlynx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:31 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vengeance is used as an example in the first definition of wreak.
Anchit1 ยท 160 points ยท Posted at 18:31:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My anus.
memearchivingbot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:04:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your anus wreaks?
Harry101UK ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:15:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean it reeks?
inevertalked ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 20:46:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
amok
jnh14 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:51:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wreaking amok?! ....no.
Richy_T ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:10:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Theon Greyjoy
rm-minus-r ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:28:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vengeance?
bogglobster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Taste Vengeance!
Gallifrasian ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:23:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Devestation, hazard, peril, and most common is vengeance. Pretty much anything that is a destructive description will do.
[deleted] ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 18:28:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Dolphin_Titties ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:04:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cheek yourself
_DeadshotAce ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 19:04:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're thinking of wreck
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:24:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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greeklemoncake ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
rought
Bennykill709 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:51:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah man, you're the one that's always had it mixed up. It's: Cheek yourself before you Wreak yourself.
wwwiizard ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:25:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Words are hard
MyNameIsDon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:42:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
beat box sounds
Ascythopicism ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:59:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your liver?
SuTvVoO ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:04:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OP's mom.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:09:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wreak, not 'things that reek'
krampfen ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:40:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wreakt
GlyphGryph ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:20:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy hell upon those assholes.
Oznog99 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:33:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dat ass
agentfooly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:29:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Torpitudes and crannies, for starters.
Dude4001 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:49:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fury
Edit: You must remember to chain all these replies together
BeABetterHumanBeing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:30:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, 'wreak' === 'work' (in the same way as 'wrought' === 'worked'), so if you really wanted, you could wreak your job, wreak a TV remote, etc...
wurrukatte ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:17:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'wrought' doesn't come from 'wreak', it is literally 'worked'; but because it doesn't look much like 'work' anymore, English speakers reformed the past participle as 'worked'.
From Proto-Germanic *wurkijanan, past participle *wurhtaz = OE wyrcan, pp worht = E 'work', pp 'wrought' with metathesis; compare 'wright', "worker", from *wurhtijวญ.
'wreak' on the other hand, originally meant "to pursue, persecute", that is, what you do to bad people.
kajeslorian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. Wrought iron is literally "worked iron", or iron that has been worked into its present state. It's similar to the word "tooled" in this case, stating what has been done to it, rather than the act of doing it. Work in this case is like a work of art, or a masterwork. The phrase "what hell hath god wrought" would roughly translate today as "what hell has god made".
Xaethon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:28:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's incorrect. 'Wreak' does not mean the same as 'work'. Wreaking is bringing about something undesirable, revenge and punishment.
lesbefriendly ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:04:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like work to me.
BeABetterHumanBeing ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just because the only remaining extant use in the living language is 'havoc' doesn't mean that all uses ever were. Like arguing that 'destroy' is always a bad thing, ignoring e.g. 'destroy evil'.
Xaethon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still didn't have the meaning of 'to work' though.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wrecan#Old_English
Related to the German 'rรคchen' too, which mans 'to avenge/take revenge'.
'To work' and 'to wreak' have completely different etymologies.
Redbulldildo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They are definitely significantly different.
I'm going to Wreak Havoc on your world.
I'm going to Work Havoc on your world.
They are not interchangeable at all.
MyNameIsDon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of onions.
Harry101UK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's 'reek', i.e, "to smell of" / "a foul smell"
Calamash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
scrubs
Bladelink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"wrought" is the past tense and is used often.
blueeyes_austin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
vengeance
Zaphyr1785 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unrelated but I had a psych professor who would always say wreck havoc, which really annoyed me. She said other phrases wrong too but I can't remember off the top of my head, I would say she was trolling but she was like 50 years old and really stubborn.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your mom.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your moms butthole. Had her shouting for Reekris.
alwaysmispells1word ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
in addition to what others have said, lets not forget the past tense gets used a bit still. wrought. The works my hands have wrought. They wrought desttruction on europe. etc...
greeklemoncake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:47 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mostly hear it in "wrought iron", usually in the context of fences.
agoddamnlegend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:56 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was wrecked last night. Had like 12 beers
notpandora ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:59 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chaos, disaster, discord (you can sow that too),misery, sorrow.
puuying ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:55 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Destruction.
CarpeDiemZero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:40 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Name one thing you can do with havoc other than wreak it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Revenge.
SultanAhmad ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 16:55:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wend, as in to "wend your way" isn't on the list, surprisingly. It used to be the present tense of "went".
acog ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:52:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it is Wikipedia, so hopefully someone will edit the article to include it!
I am not that someone
trenescese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:56 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deleted, unreliable sources.
Parsley_Sage ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 18:56:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You've got that backwards I think
Originally the past tense of wend was went.
See also: Rend and rent.
ThirdFloorGreg ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:45:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You realize that this means exactly the same fucking thing as what he said, right? It's like he said "at least two people" and you responded "wrong, it should be 'more than one person.'"
Parsley_Sage ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That would only be true if "wend" meant the same as "go" which it doesn't.
MedvedFeliz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:04:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Wend" had similar meaning as "go" at that time. "Go" had a past tense of "goed". Then their present and past merged into the form they are today in a process called "suppletion".
Similar with the verb "to be". English used to have "besan", "wesan", and "gesan". One of these meant permanence and the others temporary (like "ser" and "estar" in Spanish). Eventually, there was a suppletion; besan provided the base "be", wesan gave "were" and "was", and gesan became "am".
Ixidane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You guys are opening new doors into etymology that I never knew existed.
justarandomgeek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:39 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ever wonder about "Thing"? The super useful word for a generic object? It originally meant "assembly", and then came to refer to the subjects of discussion of that assembly. Then then broadened to refer to objects in general.
So here's the thing...
justarandomgeek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:42 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You had me up to here. Seriously, wtf? The rest of those make sense, and then this. Did "am" come from some other origin and get spliced in somehow or what?
Tocoapuffs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:59:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit, I normally accept everything I see on Reddit as fact. Thanks to you I can't right now.
Oracool13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:24:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's... probably not a good idea.
evandamastah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:03:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That mean the same thing. The past tense of wend was taken and used with the verb "go", supplanting its own past tense that fell out of use.
revolucionario ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:55:45 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that what the other user said though? He said "wend" used to be the present tense corresponding to "went", you seem to be saying that "went" is indeed the past tense of "wend", but you say he's got it backwards.
Plecboy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Wenden" is still a common verb in German meaning "to turn".
ffryd ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:29:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it was perfectly clear what was meant.
Sand_Trout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the present tense of "went" was "go"
RavenousPonies ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:07:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In modern English it is.
the_bass_saxophone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It changed. Happened in Latin too, such as the principal parts of "carry": fero, ferre, tuli, latus.
flightlessbird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The go-wend merger is really interesting. What is especially fascinating is that similar things have happened in other languages to the "go" verb, e.g. Italian 'andare' which is a merger of two roots, "and-" and "v-".
Edmonta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wend amok.
MisterPrime ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard "wend your way". From Southern California.
dpenton ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. I'm an etymology geek but never twigged that before. It's so obvious in retrospect.
mattsoave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interestingly, "wended" (instead of "went") is the primary past tense of "wend": https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/wend#English
smithee2001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
just like send and sent!
mbm66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ESLer here - I always thought that wend came from wind (as in, a winding road). TIL!
swyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's very much alive thanks to Microsoft [https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa266320(v=vs.60).aspx]
gracefulwing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:26 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard it used by kayakers and the like, to "wend down the river"
Bynnh0j ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 17:22:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or words that will only be found on the GRE
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:27:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, that thing was so pointless. It basically tests who's qualified to graduate highschool
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:35:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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merpes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:24:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But my GRE score is the only thing I have going for me. :(
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:46:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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merpes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:52:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's too late. You have destroyed my dreams.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:23:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LSAT too. Reading through this thread and all these words seem normal and common to me.
1981mph ยท 219 points ยท Posted at 13:43:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nooks and crannies.
Odds and ends?
Siarles ยท 267 points ยท Posted at 15:35:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard nook used outside of that idiom with reasonable frequency, but cranny probably counts. Both odds and ends are still pretty common.
[deleted] ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 16:33:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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the_dayman ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 18:19:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm retarded, just realized why my favorite brunch place is called The Nook.
theryman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:53:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mmm Nookies.
Akasazh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would you do it all for the nookie?
Cgdb10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Torchies?
HurricaneStiz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does it happen to be in Jupiter Florida?
the_dayman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Atlanta actually.
mathfacts ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:26:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My dad works there! Ask for Dave and we'll get you some Loaded PoTotchos on the house :)
the_dayman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome, that's what I get every time!
NickRick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
its ok charlie, you're still the rat king.
little_seed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:40 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
why do they call sex nooky then? Or am I making that up?
aefie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Breakfast cranny?
Mutoid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like a dude's just wedged in some sharp inside corner with no elbow room and a bowl of cereal on his lap.
cynthash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reading nook too.
EmperorSexy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer my lunch cranny
TundieRice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So is Tom's Nook. :)
verekh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Canadian nookie.
Or is that something else
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:23:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
B&N Nook
edit Nool โ Nook
maharito ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:30:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A hunter and a grizzly bear are at odds because they are each other's ends.
-Mountain-King- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:26:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever referred to a single odd? Ever said "look at all these ends I have"?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Dwight, get out of my nook!"
rrrr_ssss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In my middle school art class I used the work "nooks" and my teacher laughed at me because she thought I made it up. It then became the joke in the class to use the word "nook" to describe any dents or cracks. Thus, they were correctly using a real word which they thought was a made up word. It was weird. That same teacher also thought Columbus landed in America in 1692.
kryses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard and used cranny before outside the idiom. I'm from Appalachia, though, if that means anything.
vomitous_rectum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:17 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Separately though?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:33 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cranny is still used in Scottish English. As another way to say crevice.
justarandomgeek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:38 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But where can you get just odds, or just ends?
Siarles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:03 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Never tell me the odds!"
"This rope is frayed at both ends."
justarandomgeek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:14 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But those are not the same meanings the words have in the phrase "odds and ends".
Dolphin_Titties ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tend to fuck girls in the cranny, if that's any help?
LetsNotPlay ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 16:58:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Some may call this junk. Me, I call them treasures."
warsy26 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:32:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Trinkets, odds and ends, that sort of thing."
cobrareaper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work for Belethor, at the General Goods Store.
umm_umm_ ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 14:04:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alcoves.. You use that word?
Alcoves.
Tsorovar ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 16:05:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, wander around an old church or two and you'll have a surfeit of alcoves.
ronin1066 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:15:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would you say I'd have a plethora of alcoves?
piezocuttlefish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, not quite a surfeit, just a plenum. Maybe my alcove tolerance is quite high.
kajeslorian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:24:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fill them with Plinths; that's what I do.
netmier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:15 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Goddamnit, that one got me.
JordHardwell ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 17:35:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a very common word in architecture and interior design. it sounds nicer than 'that hole in the wall'
TyJaWo ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:55:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The National Institute of Architecture and Interior Design rejected my suggestion of "Innie-Windows," but next month is my biennial appeal.
Madplato ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:06:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're bound to make a clerical error at some point and accept the proposition.
rave-simons ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 18:21:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was a reference to the movie In Bruges
JordHardwell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:24:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haven't seen it :/ Whoosh!
ArttuH5N1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:46:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a great movie!
fatcolin123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:14 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's my favorite movie! everything happens and is said with a purpose. a super tight script.
Sabatorius ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:34:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQXlW0GzlD4
NudeRanch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:51:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Yes I do.
zcbtjwj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:56 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, we have some in out house. It looks a bit like there used to be a door through the wall which was then blocked in, but I think they're just stylistic in our case.
bafta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you had some you'd use it
ittakesacrane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you want to see people using "nooks and crannies" all willy-nilly, then look up a recipe for English muffins.
APTX-4869 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
English Muffins, yum.
camdoodlebop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nook's Cranny
blues141541 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have a drawer full of odds and ends, and you take out all but one. What's left?
cobrareaper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bits and baubles
MooseFlyer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:11 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard both "nook" and "cranny" used independently, although it's certainly not too common.
BrushGoodDar ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 14:49:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is a fossil the best metaphor here?
tehbored ยท 137 points ยท Posted at 16:09:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like it. The idiom is like the sediment that surrounds the organism's corpse, preserving and fossilizing it.
agentfooly ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:27:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And we use these words as a form of fuel to power our vocal chords so that we can "get to" places, just like fossil fuels! How clever!
Apatomoose ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:58:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use them too much and we'll have vocal warming.
kb-air ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:55 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
... Dear god
Dolphin_Titties ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:57:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ringo words. You only have a use for Ringo with all the other Beatles. Useless by himself.
BrushGoodDar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Come on, he was a good drummer.
Dolphin_Titties ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:39:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And amok is a decent word
Crayshack ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 15:56:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vestigial would work better.
slowmoon ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 16:02:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I would argue that it doesn't. Vestigial means that something serves no purpose anymore. Since "Running amok" definitely doesn't work without amok, amok is still serving a purpose in the English language. A fossil is evidence of something that used to be living but now is just a lifeless, immobile shadow. A footprint. A trace. A clue.
Crayshack ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:47:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vestigial structures still preform a role, but it is a much smaller role that usually isn't 100% necessary. We don't need the phrase "running amok" but because we use it the word "amok" is still here but without it's original use. That is exactly like a vestigial structure.
tyr02 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:30:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vestigial structures have lost all or most of their original function but often develop a secondary function in populations, so i think it does fit better
zcbtjwj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
except it is still performing its original function, just in a vy specific situation
ChemicalKid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please tell me what the secondary function of the appendix is? Or the secondary function of leg bones in whales?
Kidneyjoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The appendix actually has a primary function. It serves as a reservoir to preserve and replenish your gut flora in the event of diarrheal disease.
ChemicalKid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well color me embarrassed, I've been told for years that it had no purpose. I apologize for my statement.
Kidneyjoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No need to be embarrassed. It's a very common misconception.
ChemicalKid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just feel so frustrated. I was lied to for years!
tyr02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appendix_(anatomy)#Vestigiality
Death_Star_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:13:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These are examples of the complete opposite. Words that still retain their primary purpose and meaning but have lost all use otherwise.
Balmarog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:05:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Vestigial" maybe?
Siarles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What alternative would you suggest?
cynic79 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:36:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turpitude.
monarc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd go with organelle. According to the endosymbiotic theory, cellular components such as mitochondria or chloroplasts used to be distinct organisms, but evolved into sub-cellular components that no longer retain the machinery to survive on their own.
dpenton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it time to use a colorful metaphor?
rush22 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:41:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No it doesn't really make sense
tehbored ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:08:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It makes perfect sense. The idiom preserves the word the way the way that the surrounding sediment preserves a fossil.
YUNG_CHIKKIN_WING ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 17:42:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok... I knew it wasn't "a muck" the whole time.
MyNameIsDon ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:43:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Iiiit's grimer!
Tehbeefer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Until you're talking about the 1953 cartoon short "Duck Amuck"
Achilles-Actual ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:12:03 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is actually more correct than amok. Being of the original Malay spelling which the word came from.
Achilles-Actual ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:10:02 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You weren't completely wrong, it's origins are from Malay and it's spelled and enunciated mengamuk in that language. I don't bother with the English spelling.
Another fun factoid Malay word is orangutans which is actually directly translated to people of the forest.
Gallifrasian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought it was until I googled "muck" a few years ago and saw something about hummus.
MonkeeSage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:18:06 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many people run afoul of the proper spelling.
Achilles-Actual ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:43 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. They just understand it's origins.
WhyYouLetRomneyWin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:44 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing for all intensive purposes.
thallium205 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 17:53:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'Jay' in jay walking is another example!
TheLongestCat ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:57:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/-AFn7MiJz_s
iamacarboncarbonbond ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:03:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always assumed it had something to do with the way birds loiter in/cross the street. You know, like blue jays.
juicebeard ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:58:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because redneck sounds better as an insult
white_n_mild ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard the origin of that term is racist
biffbobfred ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 16:22:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Engruntled. Opposite of disgruntled.
My 1 yr olds grunt all the time. I say to my wife they're engruntled. She just looks at me like "whatever dude"
Not_a_Nautilus ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:43:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That anecdote leaves me whelmed.
pongmagic ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 16:37:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever dude!
theeyeeats ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:51 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like the exclamation mark is contradicting the indifference implied by the statement "whatever dude "
pongmagic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:22 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever dude
notmyrealnam3 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:47:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LOOK AT ME!
DonOntario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think that's a fossil word, according to OP's definition. It is an obsolete word, but it doesn't live on as part of a saying.
biffbobfred ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True. But engruntled is cool to confuse people with. My smartphone thinks disgruntled is a word. But engruntled isn't.
auraphauna ยท 152 points ยท Posted at 16:35:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like 'Ulterior' or 'Dervishes'
beancounter2885 ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 17:15:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dervish is a Sufi Muslim practice or order.
maharito ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:34:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Specifically, it's a person following this practice. They're ascetics, and they've found odd ways of embracing life. Including dancing around in circles.
People just collapsed "devil" into the meaning of "dervish" because no one else knew what the hell it meant either. So it's not really a fossil word...maybe a zombie word?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also an Irish folk band.
Not really relevant, I just like to contribute.
palmerry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:01:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like my dervishes whirled. Especially my dervished eggs.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My local chippy is named Dervish.
noticeperiod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew I had heard of a 'whirling dervish' before, so I looked it up and it's the same thing as you said. I always assumed it was a cake or dessert of some kind.
Sedirex_KR ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 16:45:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or deserts as in "just deserts."
quintus_horatius ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 16:53:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
That's 'desserts' not 'deserts.'
I'm pretty sure its a metaphor, not a fossilized word.
Edit: TIL, it really is 'deserts' not 'desserts' and its the plural of 'deserve'.
That deserve has a plural is both a TIL and a WTF.
Blandwiches ยท 115 points ยท Posted at 17:00:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not true.
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/just_deserts
suugakusha ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 17:15:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
TIL
Edit: Why the fuck would people upvote me saying this? It adds nothing to the conversation. Downvote this for god's sake and don't be ridiculous.
Fresno-bob5000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dang. I totally would've said desserts if asked.
Thank you!
Rhodie114 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:45:49 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, that totally destroys the imagery of forcing the guilty party to eat a big bowl of shit pudding
[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 16:59:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, 'deserts' is a kind of uncommon term which means 'what you deserve.' According to the definition, 'just deserts' really means 'what you justly deserve'
mbm66 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:30:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, and anyone who studied Hamlet in high school should be familiar with it. It's one of my favourite bits of dialogue from the play:
HAMLET
LORD POLONIUS
HAMLET
maharito ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:32:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just say he'll get what's coming to him and leave it at that.
somadIcanteven ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Wow, I was all ready to jump on the above poster for thinking it was "desserts" but it turns out I didn't understand the phrase either.
I thought it was based on "to desert," as in "to abandon" somebody, and that's how it came with the meaning of getting what you deserve -- desertion of you by others.
Whoops.
AN_ANGRY_BONER ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can't really unjustly deserve anything, so I'd say "just deserts" is more superfluous than a fossil word.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:41:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bruh why would you correct someone like that without at least Googling what you were saying bruh why you gotta do this to us?
quintus_horatius ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why go through all that trouble when everyone else will clearly do it for me?
piezocuttlefish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not plural of deserve, a plural past participle. A thing deserved is a desert.
jook11 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:01:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You are wrong. It's one s because it's from the word "deserve"
Starmongoose_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is blowing my mind
HeyThereCharlie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is my favorite thing
to smugly correct people onon which to smugly correct people.Mises2Peaces ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I upvoted you. Saw that you were wrong and retracted. Then reupvoted you based on the til. Nice work.
SailedBasilisk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Just desserts" means that you didn't have a meal, just cake.
liberal_princess2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, you're still wrong. "Deserts" is not the plural of "deserve." "Deserve" is already a plural verb, and "deserts" is a noun. "Deserts" is, predictably, the plural of "desert," but it's more of an amorphous noun meaning "what one deserves."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:40 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's cognate with deserter or desertion, so it uses that spelling.
CraftyCaprid ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:29:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No and no.
HaniiPuppy ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:18:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. "Ulterior" means something isn't clear, ("Ulterior purposes" would be non-obvious purposes, "Ulterior motives" would be someone's motives you don't know about, "Ulterior causes" would be something you don't know that caused something else, etc.), and Dervish is a perfectly fine stand-alone noun.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:31 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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CraftyCaprid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:52 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm curious as to how/why you thought that. Was if from the phrase "ulterior motive" or something similar?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:19:27 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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WhyYouLetRomneyWin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:03 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am kind of confused as to what the debate here is. I thought 'ulterior' always meant 'beyond' or 'concealed', which seems consistent with your first post. But then you say it just means additional.
Have I been using this word wrong my whole life?
RavenousPonies ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:09:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hear "ulterior" used frequently enough that I wouldn't consider it out of use.
mootz4 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:09:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I say Ulterior all the time...but I'm an Ulterior Designer so maybe I'm biased
GumdropGoober ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does rฤซce count? It means realm, and the only place its still used is "bishopric" (bishop's realm).
pocketsizetheresa ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 16:54:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vim and vigor.
pianobadger ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 17:33:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, just vim.
[deleted] ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 17:50:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Emacs
mind-sailor ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:28:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://xkcd.com/378/
xkcd_transcriber ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:28:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Title: Real Programmers
Title-text: Real programmers set the universal constants at the start such that the universe evolves to contain the disk with the data they want.
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dtmfadvice ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:46:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been using vim for years. Mostly because I can't figure out the command to quit.
CyrillicFez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use occasionally vim for the same reason that hipsters use vinyl.
Bladelink ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pfffsh, nano 4 lyf.
pocketsizetheresa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm aware.
pianobadger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just making a joke.
Loelin ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:31:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...Vigors, Tonics, and Nostrums.
GET YOUR VIGORS, TONICS, and NOSTRUMS 'ERE.
omnilynx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still use tonic. Both as a word and an ingredient.
apathetic_revolution ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:10:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spartan teams are bound to win; they're fighting with a vim! Rah! Rah! Rah!
idreamofdinos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See their team is weakening WEEEEEEEAK
ShesFunnyThatWay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not to be confused with piss and vinegar.
IanGecko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still a good Scrabble word!
zcbtjwj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Super Mario brothers on DS
the_bass_saxophone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vim had some life of its own, mostly as a trademark (Vimms were a brand of vitamin). Vigor is still a vigorous word.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:20:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"You, sir, are the idiom"
ProudPeopleofRobonia ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:29:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking about "edgewise" the other day. I've never used it outside the context of "couldn't get a word in edgewise."
zcbtjwj ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:24:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was edgeways
I guess you could use it if you are trying to fit things into holes but I haven't heard it
ProudPeopleofRobonia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:56 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess it's a British/American difference, for Americans it's definitely edgewise:
zcbtjwj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:26 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
probably, I am british
BritOli ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Edgeways...
the_bass_saxophone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a tough one because you could use it differently, and it would sound okay and make sense. It just isn't done.
vizualb ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:40:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a weird phrase. "Couldn't get a word in" is totally sufficient for the phrase but people add that weird word that is never used otherwise.
amsteele27 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:25:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check out cranberry morphemes, they're like the same thing but with morphemes instead of whole words.
mrShoes1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:49:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same with "The Star Spangled Banner." When was the last time you said you spangled something?
CyrillicFez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Something something your mom
labrys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We use spangly round my way though, for something sparkly. For example, 'my gran knit me some awesome spangly socks for christmas'.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:35:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Arms akimbo?
MyNameIsDon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:45:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers.
Or idunno, akimbo had relevance in COD right?
AppleDane ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:53:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guns akimbo!
chibiwibi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:24:30 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Akimbo always makes me think of a samurai doing limbo. Dunno why
UncleRot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My steam name stayed Tits Akimbo for awhile, totally relevant word.
OktoberSunset ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Legs akimbo.
HaniiPuppy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could "Akimbo" be an example of a resurrected word? It gets used as a general adjective, but its usual meaning directly references or is derived from the idiom "Arms akimbo".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:26 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know but it's an interesting thought.
BrentTH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:18 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I almost convinced my friend to name his band Dicks Akimbo.
biffbobfred ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:20:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Amok time". Star Trek, original series episode.
cynthash ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:47:56 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Salad and Amok at Tanagra
ungulate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:28:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking of fossils.
biffbobfred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What .... Are... You.... TALKING .... About.... Spock.
(Talking like Kirk in plain text is hard)
Dolphin_Titties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also a thom Yorke song or album or something recently
valuehorse ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:33:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quit being so Chalant
Harry101UK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it's making me gruntled.
fdtc_skolar ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:30:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another would be "on tenterhooks" which is usually misuses tender for tenter. Tenter hooks were used in the olde days of making woolen cloth where it was stretched out on a frame held by the hooks as part of the finishing process. The definition is; in a state of suspense or agitation because of uncertainty about a future event.
PoopingATM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:51:24 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is On Tender Hooks
jackn8r ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:26:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pam: "Michael, do not let your imagination run amok."
Michael: "Run what?"
Pam: "Amok. It means don't let your imagination run out of control."
Michael: "Why didn't you just say that, Pam?
Pam: "Michael, do not let your imagination run out of control."
Michael: "Well, that's easy for you to say. You have a bad imagination. It's stupid. I live in a fantasy world.
...
Michael: "It's too late to undo it. I need to know. Otherwise this thing is going to spiral out of amok."
canausernamebetoolon ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 16:51:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm surprised "figment," as in, "a figment of your imagination," isn't on the list.
Goonerpannetto ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 18:10:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Figment just means a small part of some greater ideological or metaphysical thought. Like a figment of time, or a figment of ones imaginarium constabularium
RuggerRigger ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 18:21:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yes, but does anyone say figment in any other context?
ungulate ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 18:27:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you smile really wide and say pigment, it comes out figment.
RuggerRigger ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 18:29:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now say "I was born on a pirate ship"
ArttuH5N1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:47:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yarrr
howdjadoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
with a bunch of apples
misterblade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:48:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confirmed. Which sounds like concerned while smiling.
Dolphin_Titties ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:53:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard figment of memory
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:33:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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StutteringDMB ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:51:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No offense, but if we decide what is fossilized based on the knowledge of some random youth, we'll be removing the bulk of the language. Literature would be written at the level of stilted teen romance novels or children's books. Technical documentation would all be like the Up Goer Five.
There are about a million words in the English language. A typical 20 year old English speaker might know 20,000. You're very young and I doubt you've even touched the rather substantial list that constitutes great English literature, much less become embroiled in a profession that might regularly use words that seem archane, like "instantiate" or "disintermediation."
xkcd_transcriber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Title: Up Goer Five
Title-text: Another thing that is a bad problem is if you're flying toward space and the parts start to fall off your space car in the wrong order. If that happens, it means you won't go to space today, or maybe ever.
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mootz4 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:12:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure...when I want a hard candy that will freshen my breath and also tastes like my favorite middle eastern fruit.
Goonerpannetto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hohohoho I'm substantively emulsified by the laceration of your jive-dialect and derring-do in the face of consternation from sapient sentients hailing forthwith multitudinous verisimilitudes that do abscond the verbal palette.
Tychonaut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard "figment of time".
jnh14 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:52:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a ride at Disney World Orlando where a purple dinosaur named Figment follows your little roller coaster cart around on this track showing you all the things you can imagine. It's a sweet ride.
Ossalot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use that all the time. If a fruit says something odd, you have to figure out what the fig meant.
2plus2makes5 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:19:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This may have been mentioned already, but "amok" is a word of Malaysian decent, which as far as I can till is still relevant in its native tongue.
Turpitude forms part of modern law in the U.S.
While there definitely are "fossil words", these two are not particularly good examples.
kb-air ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:41 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh. The trials and tribulations of fossils words.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:39:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another example is "progressive conservative" because conservatives are fossils.
swimalllday ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:47:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Egg nog. Seriously, wtf is a "nog."
white_n_mild ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:54:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This guy doesn't know what a nog is...
APiousCultist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eggnog. Not egg nog. It's functionally a single word. Nog never meant anything, according to wikipedia is could have derived from a type of cup named a noggin.
Occupier_9000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always assumed that it was related to grog etymologically.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:26:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What are words that were words on their own but now are only found in compounds? e.g. gormless,ruthless
APiousCultist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cranberry_morpheme seems to fit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:46 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, thank you
the_bass_saxophone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can be disgruntled, but you can't be gruntled.
GuiltyCynic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:49:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mike Tyson would disagree with you.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:57:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gotten has survived in US English but has died out in British English except in the phrase ill gotten gains.
vadkert ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:58:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just deserts is a good one, too.
Many people will mistakenly use the word 'dessert' since the pronunciation is closer to the way 'desert' is used in 'just desert.'
To be clear: Desert (pronounced DEZ-urt) is the hostile, arid, often sandy type of geography. And dessert (de-ZURT) is the tasty, scrumptious, often cakey type of food. In the phrase 'just deserts' the word is spelled the same as desert, but pronounced like dessert.
Why? It's a separate word entirely. A desert in this context is something someone deserves or is fitting. Think of the word deserve. This is the noun equivalent. You deserve your deserts, and the emphasis on the second syllable is preserved. Just say 'deserve' but chop off the 've' and add a 't.'
This makes the phrase make a ton more sense. You've received justice and what you deserved. You got your just deserts.
SoGodDangTired ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:24:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They've never been to the south if they think craw would be obsolete without its idiom.
balapete ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:34:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lo and Behold
ColdHooves ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:40:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In computing we call it "Legacy".
rare_pig ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:24:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure this post cuts the mustard
Kid-Billy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:15:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, now I know. My vocabulary is rife with fossil words and it's been the cause of people looking at me askance. It's vexing, to no nth.
BuddhistSC ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:03:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"vexing" isn't a fossil word.
szczypka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:50:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the suggestions here aren't fossil words.
labwerk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:28:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
M'cabulary.
CRAZEDDUCKling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fossil words are just more interesting to use.
_DOA_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:28:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A couple of these don't really fit. "Wreak" is the first that comes to mind. You can "wreak havoc", (the idiom wreak is supposedly dependent on) but you can also wreak vengeance, among other possible "wreakings."
blufox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yes, and there is the wreaking ball, and ship wreak.the_bass_saxophone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think you're spealing them right.
blufox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:56 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oops, thanks :)
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:32:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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thrasumachos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:36:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the whole reason they're preserved--because they're in common use. Some other examples: "merry" in "merry Christmas," and arguably "belated" in "happy belated birthday."
thisismymoniker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:21:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Lol same I was reading through the list thinking the same thing. No wonder every one says I have a weird way of putting things. Were you an avid reader as a child?
Gh0st1y ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:36:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah avid as fuck. I loved (and still love) books.
thisismymoniker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too. And my Nan (grandmother) is British and was my primary caregiver most of the time.
SpaceSafe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You must be very smart.
DonOntario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you mean that you use the sayings or that you use the specific rare words by themselves? Because of you're claiming the former, then that's the whole point. They are rare, practically obsolete words that live on only in common sayings.
Gh0st1y ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:12 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, I'm saying that I use them in normal conversation. For the reasons you outlined, I didn't mean that I use the idioms.
DonOntario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:40 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
OK, thanks for clarifying that for me.
You replied with vim to my beck.
Gh0st1y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:33 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
?
ImAlmostCooler ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No offense meant, but people probably find it pretentious.
Gh0st1y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:18 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I'm sure. Whatever.
El_Frijol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:33:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you tape a show for me?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:36:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And if you miss a bit you can rewind it.
Dolphin_Titties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll burn you a copy
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does anyone say this outside of CD/DVD use?
Dolphin_Titties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe when you ask someone to brand you
nav0n0d ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think everyone this in their own lives. I call the Walmart plaza near where I used to live the 'Wolco's Plaza' even though Wolco as a company hasn't existed in a couple decades.
kinjinsan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there such a word as "gruntled", meaning perfectly happy and content in one's job?
tasha4life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whelmed?
thrasumachos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whelmed is actually a word. It means drowned.
tasha4life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So a person is over drowned when over whelmed?
the_bass_saxophone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was a word. Hardly used now.
zcbtjwj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't see why there shouldn't be. If we start using it, it will be a word. Now how do we find someone who is happy and content with ther job?
tardologist42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:44:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
eh, "amok time" is a great star trek episode.
fhqhe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Communion by intinction
okreddit545 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I furrowed my brow trying to come up with an example here.
the_bass_saxophone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A furrow is what a plow makes in soil, but it's only a noun. Only with "brow" is it an adjective.
crystalistwo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:02:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People stopped using amok? I use it.
katorulestheworld ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I thought it came from Indonesia or Malayasia when the locals used to get shitfaced on some kind of drug and rampaged around, "amok" was the bastardised version of the word they used to describe that.
mbm66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What sentence would you use it in?
crystalistwo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Her kids went downstairs and saw the Christmas presents and everything went amok." I also use bedlam.
Gullible_oaf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:02:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It has hither on that list, in Yorkshire UK we use hither a lot still. Unless a lot of the people in Yorkshire are just fossils.
APiousCultist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you? Or do you use 'come hither'?
Gullible_oaf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We use both, generally depends who's shouting to who and what about.
Bring it hither isn't unheard of, neither is come hither.
APiousCultist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, I just couldn't think of any other way to use it.
katorulestheworld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:27 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hither and thither = here and there
fullsarj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does "dastard" e.g. "dastardly" count?
That would be a bound morpheme https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bound_and_unbound_morphemes
simplulo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"To pay in kind"
blufox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which one? Kind is still used as in similar kinds of words.
simplulo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:14 on February 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In "to pay in kind", "kind" means "cattle", as in to pay without money.
blufox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:39 on February 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought kind was related to kin and kindred as in similar type. So pay in kind meant giving back some thing of similar nature, (barter). Any attestation of the meaning of kind as cattle?
simplulo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:26 on February 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I could swear I read about fossilized words in Bill Bryson's Mother Tongue, and that the example 'pay in kind' meant pay with livestock. Now I'm having trouble finding a clear reference, just hints like: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/in+kind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_in_kind
There, if you google "payment in kind"+cattle, you'll find mentions of 'kind' coming from 'kine', Old English plural for cows: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kine You had me sweating... However, this talk page acknowledges the etymology and declares it false: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Talk:in_kind
blufox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:43 on February 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks :) I didn't know kine was cattle, especially as plural for cow!.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Bate," usually "bated," from "bated breath."
blufox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"The storm has abated."
hogger85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Master bate
TripleThreat1212 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL it's "run amok" and not "run a muck"
cloveronover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:04:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I remember my Bill Bryson correctly, another example (not included on the list) is the word "neck" (meaning a division of forest) preserved in the phrase "neck of the woods."
Serious_Guy_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:30:24 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Upvote for Bill Bryson. Anyone fascinated by language should read Mother Tongue.
Turkeyshoot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok is a Khmer word still in use today.
Empire_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok is Danish for going crazy. fyi.
Jaz_the_Nagai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:31:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can we use them to power cars?
wants_a_lollipop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok isn't a fossil word. Being amok is a DSM-V recognized culture - bound syndrom. I think it's Asian in origin and describes a psychotic episode which manifests incredibly violent behavior.
lymediseasesucks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Abject poverty?
stromm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Moral turpitude always runs amok
4five ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
afaik, amok is a loan word from Indonesian.
stopdammit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:25:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Rue" in "rue the day"
TannerThanUsual ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of a time in high school when I told my friend to try and be couth when we were going to my grandparents'. They said couth isn't a word and that "uncouth" is not, in fact, the antonym to the word couth. We argued for something like ten minutes.
Azotherian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be careful, things might spiral out of amok
carl2k1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trivia - Amok is a tagalog/malay word. Amok or juramentado is described as going into a killing rampage usually done by Filipino muslim fighters vs enemy soldiers in the south. American soldiers had a hard time stopping these Muslim fighters that they invented a bigger caliber bullet, the .45 caliber. Amok is still in the Philippine vocabolary
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_ACP
Zaev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:47 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now I've heard Danish, Khmer, Indonesian, and Tagalog/Malay. Google seems to agree with Malay at least.
carl2k1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:45 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tagalog, malay, indonesia are in the same language family which i believe is Austronesian.
liver1000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:05:07 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vim and vigor.
jnh14 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:08:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
And like 'laurels' in "resting on our laurels"?
TF is that...
[edit; I do know what it is/means, it just sounds so silly and outdated]
RuggerRigger ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:25:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Laurel wreath used to be given to winners - say placed on the head during the award ceremony at the olympics. So laurels = past accomplishments. Resting on your laurels means you aren't trying hard anymore, you're just getting by because you won in the past.
Dolphin_Titties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah nice. I thought it was a bit like a flank
jnh14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wtf was more rhetorical, but yes. Like [edit; the late*] Bruce Jenner when he gloated every other week about how he was an 'Olympic gold winner'....
RuggerRigger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya, that's a great example because it's nearly literal.
PlazaOne ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:15:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's where great champions at sporting events were awarded a crown to wear upon their head, made from intertwined leaves of the laurel shrub. Some champions would go back and continue to develop their skill, ready to return and defend their title. Other champions would believe they had achieved their pinnacle and no longer needed to train as hard. Even in ancient times it was recognised that once you got to the top of any discipline, you needed to work hard to stay on top. Those who relaxed, resting upon having gained their initial laurels, were considered unlikely to gain further trophies.
TheGlaive ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I was interviewed once on a chat show, and the other guest was an Olympic gold medal winner. As she was preparing her props in the green room I noticed her wreath, from Athens, so I asked her "Do you ever rest on that?" She gave me an empty and contemptuous look.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're leaves. They use them to make a crown that you wear when you've done something good. You still see recent graduates walking around wearing them in Italy.
Aka bay leaves.
zcbtjwj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bay and laurel are different plants.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurus_nobilis
zcbtjwj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, TIL.
This is going sound very reminiscent of a certain conversation but in the UK a bay tree is the one you linked and a laurel is probably this one
Laurel is the family name, which is where the confusion comes from.
And it seems you are right, the wreathes were made of bay leaves.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think it's we Brits messing it up. Like the bird the Yanks call a robin, which resembles one but is actually nothing of the sort.
DeusFerreus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The elk/moose/wapity situation is simmilar.
Blondude ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:24:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about twiddle? As in, "twiddle your thumbs"
MathPolice ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:03:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You might also twiddle a dial on a radio or other piece of machinery.
Blondude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do people use it in that context? I've literally only ever heard it in reference to the thumb movements.
MathPolice ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:34:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. I've heard of people "twiddling the knobs" on a control panel.
Also, it still exists in the related phrase "bit twiddling" which are low-level software "tricks" people use to perform certain operations faster. (Google for various cool examples.)
Also, some people call the tilde "~" a "twiddle."
MisterDonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you read some limericks, you'll find other context for twiddling.
PoopingATM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:54:51 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One may also twiddle their diddle.
Sharwdry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the last three months I've probably used twiddle about 3 times a day every day because it's really common in specific areas of engineering - twiddle bits etc. I use twiddle almost as often as I speak twaddle.
floppydrive ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
askance - look askance
kempt - unkempt
abashed - unabashed
Edit: added the "t" to kempt
mbm66 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:34:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see "abashed" used a lot in fiction. "He looked abashed" etc.
the_bass_saxophone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stands alone. You can also be unabashed.
cynthash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:45 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He kemp bush; unfair plane. Vilet stet pedder!
LadyCoru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never say them, but those end up in books a lot.
GinningRanger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:47:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok is also a Danish word. Actually a common one for "out of control"
Choosing_is_a_sin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the same borrowing.
Mange-Tout ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:14:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Couth is my favorite fossil word. It means the opposite of uncouth.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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white_n_mild ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OP is a dandy
youthdecay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a professor who used dandy in regular speech. She'd say "That's dandy" instead of "That's great".
alex8155 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:52:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what about abominable?
ive never heard of anything being 'abominable' besides a fucking snowman.
zcbtjwj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
abominable bride (most recent sherlock)
blufox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Refrain from abominable actions.
maharito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes they keep a word alive in other contexts, too. Language evolution is a realm fraught with possibilities.
the_bass_saxophone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought the present tense of "fraught" might be "to freak."
GreenGlassDrgn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't help but want that the root of turpitude somehow relates to Dick Turpin.
DaddyCatALSO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In some case, hard to see how else you could use those words. Not all. PErsoanlly I like archaic and obsolete words.
motherly1000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Arms akimbo?
tasha4life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Widdershins.
JEveryman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't moral turpitude used in law for actions that go against normative values? Or has my understanding of the law run amok?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Legalize is wonderful because it uses slightly archaic language that manages to be exact and vague at the same time.
katorulestheworld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol, its the 'good behavior' clause for officers isn't it? not behaving themselves, or adultery, was termed moral turpitude
livandletlive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL it's just deserts, the plural of desert, not just desserts, but maybe that's just me
breadislive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's funny how I've been thinking about this exact same concept for the past few days. And now I know it actually has a name!
Dolphin_Titties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Assunder
the_bass_saxophone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's "asunder," which isn't quite a fossil word as things can be torn, ripped, hurled, cleaved, or merely put that way.
"Ass-under" is a whole nuther ball game. (Nuther is a fossil. You never see it outside of a ball game.)
Dolphin_Titties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rent Assunder is a porno
Tychonaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rue. As in "the day".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
vim and vigor
D4nnyp3ligr0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Palpable. The tension in the room was palpable. The people there were able to palp it.
mbm66 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:36:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's used in medicine - to palpate something is to feel it by touch.
Bakkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very common in medicine and veterinary stuff. It means to be able to feel something by the examiner. Every time the doc checks your swollen glands under your jaw, he is palpating them.
BorisChinchilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Vaunted defense" in sports. Are anything BUT defenses vaunted?
the_bass_saxophone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hear "the much-vaunted ____" now and then to describe someone or something held to be formidable, notorious, or just frequently talked about.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok!
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sharktank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have never in my life heard of 'amok' used outside of 'run amok'
courteous_coitus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:56:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the idea.
ezaspie03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I argue spick is used quite often in the states, due to the ugliness of racism. Though if it is just the meaning that is fossilized, why did they leave kit off of the list... and caboodle doesn't exist outside of the idiom. I don't have a problem with the whole kit and caboodle, but fuck caboodle.
Bakkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When used as an ethnic slur, irt is spelled spic.
When used as an idiom meaning clean and neat it is Spic and Span, also the name of a popular cleaning powder product in the US.
ezaspie03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:14 on January 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Merriam Webster doesn't agree with your very definitive spelling of an ethnic slur, but what do they know. Not too sure if you are familiar with the crowd that uses these words. They usually aren't too keen on spelling. Spend 5 minutes and see how people use it. Also though there is not an accurate etymology for the word. Most feel it came from an early print of spik.
Variants of spic also spick http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spick
Bakkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:55 on January 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't say that I have seen it in print much before the internet although as a slur it was certainly around when I was growing up in the 1950's
Pyklet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hear some of these words a lot, probably not a daily basis but definitely a weekly basis. TIL Great Britain is an isolated region.
(Just for the record 75% of the workforce where I'm employed is over 45)
LaunchThePolaris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever heard the word "dollop" used to describe anything other than a helping of sour cream?
courteous_coitus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any liquid with a high viscosity. Mayonnaise, mustard, whipped cream, etc.
Nebraska-Cornhuskers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A dollop of fairy dust.
thermitethrowaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fettle is still in use in some places.
Also, it is a damp squid. How can a squib be damp?
the_bass_saxophone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is anyone, or anything, ever in fettle other than fine? If not, it's a fossil.
thermitethrowaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes - it's common round here to ask what kind of fettle someone is in, or even just "what fettle?". People in a bad mood are in a bad fettle.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:21 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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thermitethrowaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:15 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, the squid thing was a "The IT Crowd Reference". I was wondering if anyone would notice.
rageofheaven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turpitude is used regularly.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except now the internet at large says "on point" when they mean "good" in any context.
bailunrui ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:38 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the youngins are saying "on fleek".
HhmmmmNo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Slake your thirst.
blufox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And to slake your curiosity. I think to slaken and stretch your body is also relevant.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you misspelled "barometer"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Words dont exist only mouths exist
logicalmaniak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would participate in this thread, but I just bought a desk from IKEA and haven't mantled it yet.
blufox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't "the mantle of responsibility" used?
Call_me_Cassius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:06 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But mantle in the context is referring to the article of clothing. Mantle is still in use with several different meanings as a noun, but as a verb I don't think so.
JayneLut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:22 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's more a prefix but were now only exists in the word werewolf. It meant man (as into highlight someone was male, man itself was originally gender neutral).
eeyore134 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just deserts. We don't use 'desert' to mean 'to deserve' anymore and most people actually spell it 'just desserts' now because the right way to spell it doesn't make much sense... not that desserts does either.
Twokindsofpeople ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL the phrase is kit and caboodle not kitten caboodle.
OneEyedCharlie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always had this idea. That there are certain words that only exists in phrases and you never hear them otherwise. Glad my suspicions were codified
seanmharcailin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the west wing uses turpitude all the time- at least twice in the first 2 seasons and once in season 4... or perhaps that was torpor...
SailedBasilisk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The article claims that "squib" is a fossil word in the expression "damp squib".
I know what "squib" means (a small explosive, not a wizard-born who can't do magic) and have heard it used. I have never heard the phrase "damp squib" before.
oddwithoutend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is 'scaredy' in scaredy cat a fossil word?
Calluhad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Half of these I still use on a regular basis... am I old?
notquite20characters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're missing "luke" from "luke warm".
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=luke
Aedeus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Irregardless.
Bakkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One fell swoop?
blufox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which one? The fell beast (Tolkien) or swooped in?
Bakkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fell
skydiveguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone.
LightOfVictory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok means "to start shit up" or going on a rampage in Malay. Not dead, just dead in english.
AStingyMiser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Eke" should not be there, but "shambles," as in "in a shambles," definitely should.
VirginWizard69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
kith and kin
courteous_coitus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmmmm I think mettle and vim are used, albeit in limited context. Otherwise, great term. I like it.
CholentPot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These are all Woody sort of words.
theukrainetrains ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anachronism is the correct word
IAm_Trogdor_AMA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, I'd say 'niggardly' is a fossilized word even though it's meaning had nothing to do with being racist.
Redwood21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hustle and "Bustle". What the hell does bustle mean in that context
TotesMessenger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Furthur_slimeking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the single best TIL ever. :D
Lurker_IV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or we could call them "anachronisms".
mrgodtoyou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This shits stupid. Fossil words, carpe diem this
OddCrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pore over, as in a book.
Comes from the archaic past tense of "peer".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Palatial those Regalia. I dont need em
CRISPR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the subject word was still alive just recently: somerset maugham amok.
keyree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Born Fossil, new band name I call it.
Gibodean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:09 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about "girt" in the Australian national anthem.
disitinerant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All of language is a reef of dead metaphors.
cibum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:05 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So many crossword words.
cowseatmeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL that I wouldn't be speaking dunglish by saying 'spick and span'
Bamfmaiden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a Red Herring!
spacenb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a French Canadian expression going like "foquer le chien", "foquer" being a marine term for "to lose" and "le chien" being the marine designation for the first boat of a line of boats, the one giving the lead. However since we have for the most part forgotten marine speak most of us think it means to "fuck (or confuse) the dog".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Run amok, it's used in Germany for code I case of a shooting it's goes "Mrs.koma is coming" til I believe it was used once in 90 during some shooting
Sirmalta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the best TIL all week.
pianoguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok is a Danish word, we left our mark!
zeekar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jots and tittles, anyone?
spudmonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oddly, the word tittle contains a tittle.
It is a name for the dot on an i or j.
Jot was originally iota the greek letter (the smallest greek letter if you get the meaning).
fas_nefas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean....
This is not a dead word because "abated" exists, so "bated" still makes sense too? I don't know how to explain it. But while I would never use the verb "bate" outside of "bated breath", the verb "abate" gives me enough information to know what it means... something stops, versus being stopped by something.
gymell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually I use "bate" quite often. I volunteer with raptors and bate specifically means when they try to fly off your fist or the perch (happens pretty often.)
diumao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:33 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about stave? There's only one use of the word I can think of and it's used in the playoffs when a team can be eliminated if they lose their next game e.g. staving off elimination
youthdecay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:02:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can stave off hunger/thirst as well.
vizualb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think "merry" is used ~90% of the time to refer to Christmas.
youthdecay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Drink and be merry" is the other 10%.
Serious_Guy_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:07 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
on your/their merry way has to still be 1%
Minguseyes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dudgeon. When was the last time you saw someone in low or medium dudgeon ? It's only got one setting.
iguacu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fantastic, I had wondered if there was a term for these types of words (and accompanying wiki list).
flowerynight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand their point about merchant navy. It's a commercial fleet, and a navy is a fleet, yet they say the sense of "navy" in this phrase is no longer used. What am I missing?
starwolf256 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A navy in the modern sense is a military fleet.
majoroutage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because doesn't quite carry the same negative connotations as calling them mercenaries.
TL;DR: Governments don't like militias.
sinni800 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In German we still use "amok" regularly :D
tacit1000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is a fossil the best metaphor here?
special_reddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok Time.
My favorite use of the word.
cl3arlycanadian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
anachronistic or antiquated, basically
PM_ME_UR_TIGHTPANTS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use "vim" and "shebang" on the reg.
SpiritWolfie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll take whore ads for $200
majoroutage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Le Tits Now!
majoroutage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:06 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Bygone" is not a bygone.
Magneticitist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i just want to get rid of the word 'perturbed' for good
mingepie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are we all in agreeance?
SHIT_DOWN_MY_PEEHOLE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But what about moral barometers?
ISayAnythingIPlz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
let's keep "day afore" alive :D
O_uttrip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This thread is a doozy
Spagoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These words have survived so many trials and tribulations.
Grumpy-Moogle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:20 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"What's with tidbit? I mean, I know what a bit is, but what's a 'tid'?"
bafta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:27 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In English it's tit bit
cheechcr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting!
GRAYDON11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone up vote this so it remains conspicuous!
Gouper_da_Firetruck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok(as in a mass shooting or killing or any other sort of violent rampage) is actually still used in the Germans language, I'm not sure however whig language it originally came from
Kignak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I use amok all the time in Pokemon. It's better than Grimer.
backobarker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well down here in Australia we've kept the word 'girt' alive by putting it in our national anthem.
bafta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:01 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
like he's a right girt lummox
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use eke all the time. "It just eked though" etc. Fossil word my testicular cancer.
underindiana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to physically hang up the phone.
jedontrack27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm reading these realising I know exactly what they all mean, without having a fucking clue what any of them mean...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vexation , Vex did I do it right?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer immoral turpitude, myself.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:56 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok time. One of the best Star Trek episodes, ever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amok_Time
It is a perfectly cromulent word.
404-shame-not-found ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AAAAAAAAAAMMMMOOOOOKKKK
Ladd_Pearson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:59 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Merry Christmas?
thrashmo92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:08 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nooks and crannies.
Odds and ends?
polakbob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:59 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Um... "Amok Time?" Still alive in my vocabulary :)
Lan777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:00 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Congratulations, you were hoist by your own petard.
polarlink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:44 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Pert" I can't recall it ever being used unless followed by "breasts"
canada686 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:56 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
can you "tape" the show?
thomasbourne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:01 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tape isn't a fossil word. Videotape is but it's a compound word that isn't used anymoreโฆ
I think amok and turpitude are better examples because they aren't compound.
NotVerySmarts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:43 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has there ever been a tribulation without having a trial first?
DishwasherTwig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:11 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's one that's on the tip of my tongue, I think it does with death and means something akin to a warmonger. The more I think about, the more I get annoyed that I can't remember what it is.
DaveMagee83 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:59 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is Video Tape one?
The_flying_pigs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:21 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Personally always thought it was "run a muck" which I still think makes sense
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:32 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shebang is still in use. Just ask Ricky Martin https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5ihtX86JzmA
Runsamok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:01 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey. Neat. TIL.
Momma_Coprocessor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:45 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Batman got on my nerves. He was running me amok.
L43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:32 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use eke quite a lot still, maybe I'm the fossil...
flarn2006 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:07 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
เผผ ใค โ_โ เผฝใค PRAISE AMOK
EDIT: This was intended as a Twitch Plays Pokemon reference, but I just realized it works as a Dwarf Fortress reference as well.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:31 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So basically GRE words
cotti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:20 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL "moral turpitude" might have been used in other places besides Frank Zappa's Welcome To The United States piece.
kb-air ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:08 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trials and tribulations.
OPtig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:13 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about "chink in your armor." That one's pretty much toast these days.
Bargh9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:26 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL amok is originally a Malaysian word.
Makaidi39 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:31:29 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On Danish we use amok for the word chaos
Achilles-Actual ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:59:40 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The word amok never was common place in English. Although having Indonesian family I was accused of running amuk rather often as a child. In Malay it has never lost its prevalence. I use the word as often as situations permit.
servo386 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:10:18 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok is actually a SE asian term for a particular "hysteria" that seems to only occur in that particular region. It refers to a bout of madness where a man thinks that his penis has become sentient and sprouted legs and run off. So he goes chasing after his penis, or "running amok".
bobtheghost33 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:13:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah you're thinking of Koro. Amok is the one where you go on a killing spree then have amnesia of the event
MeinKraftt ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:10:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No it's not, it's from Malay 'meng-amok', to charge or run at something in a homicidal rage.
GanasbinTagap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually mengamuk.
TedTheGreek_Atheos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It also happens on the planet Vulcan.
http://www.startrek.com/database_article/amok-time
omegasavant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:08 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it isn't. Amok is just an indiscriminately homicidal mental state comparable to that of any other spree killer. Men (and it's always men for some reason) who "run amok" would not really be punished for it if they survived, since it was viewed as something out of their control. Realistically speaking, not many would actually survive; they would be killed in self-defense or commit suicide immediately after. Again, pretty much exactly like some random school shooter.
seahorsekiller ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please stop posting incorrect facts thanks
insickness ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:37:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scantily clad.
You almost never see those two words used without each other.
white_n_mild ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:51:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Iron-clad
Rephaite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any kind of metal cladding, honestly.
It's a reasonably common word in metalworking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cladding_(metalworking)
insickness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes. Forgot about that.
Choosing_is_a_sin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:44:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is called a collocation.
blufox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scantily dressed, but clad in armor.
the_bass_saxophone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scantily documented.
abraksis747 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
white_n_mild ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:55 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok don't have any hang-ups about it.
setsuwa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am in low dudgeon today.
FGforty2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hear the phrase 'run amok' pretty consistently.I find it far from obsolete.
kinjinsan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:26:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the point is that you almost never hear "amok" without the preceding word "run".
FGforty2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:32:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup..I'm hung over and my reading comprehension is on a 1st grade level due to that fact.
Tychonaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:11 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can someone just "walk amok"?
APiousCultist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Casually stroll amok like a total boss.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:43 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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thrasumachos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But it's not a fossil, since it's a 17th century borrowing, and was never in wider use outside that idiom.
Choosing_is_a_sin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So it's a born fossil.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:38 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Choosing_is_a_sin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then its adjectival zero-derivation is a born fossil.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Choosing_is_a_sin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's obsolete in the sense that it's not productive outside of a fixed phrase. We don't *stroll amok, *act amok, *sprint amok, etc. Its use is restricted to a single phrase, and if not for that phrase, it would be obsolete. For example, the sense of maid as single woman is obsolete, except in the phrase old maid. The use of full as an intensifier like very is obsolete in most varieties of English except in full well.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:53 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Choosing_is_a_sin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:32 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you want to go against the professional linguists that invented the term, so be it. But things can be born fossils, as the above link points out for tarnation.
Please re-read my comment. I talked about a sense of maid, not the word maid itself, just liked I talked about a sense of full, not the word full itself. This is like what was described in the second paragraph of the OP's link.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:37 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Choosing_is_a_sin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:34 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know who called any word useless. It wasn't me, that's for sure. I did say that it wasn't used, but not being used is not the same as useless.
ipeench ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: people that use fossil words all the time.
kinjinsan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use turpitude to clean my paintbrushes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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GlyphGryph ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which one of those is the fossil? Those words are all still in common use.
redconfetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thus reminds me of tumult - "a loud, confused noise, especially one caused by a large mass of people."
Thus "tumultuous"
the_bass_saxophone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:37 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a fossil. Cheering, booing, yelling, applause, or general brouhaha can all be described as tumultuous.
katorulestheworld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
kith and kin
kith used to mean homeland, but now people use it to mean friends.
StrictlyForTheBirds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Extenuating circumstances. Den of iniquity. One fell swoop.
FormerGameDev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amok is quite commonly used in British english
Toastwaver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cranny. Only used in "nooks and crannies".
ZeroSumHappiness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:40:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cranny is a common word in the rock climbing community.
Toastwaver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:39 on January 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good to know! Heading to Utah this Summer to do my first outdoor climbing and will be sure to bust it out.
MisterDonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: not grasping the concept of obsolete or idiom.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or "Champing at the bit".
I admit I get unreasonably annoyed when people say "chomping at the bit".
followthesinner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:21 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one says forth but "back and forth" is said constantly.
majoroutage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:22:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hear 'put forth' often enough.
syntaxvorlon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ongoing is another example. It used to be that instead of saying 'being built' one would say onbuilding or a'building more recently.
P-M-F-R-B ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well this just tickles me pink.
Not a word but a fossil statement I guess.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
This is incorrect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_amok
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_turpitude
And "fossil word" can't be obsolete, ever. It needs to exist in order to describe itself.
Nebraska-Cornhuskers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:32 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I don't think you know what Obsolete means.
Also, just because you link a wiki article doesn't mean it's wrong.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil_word
And I quote:
"amok, as in "run amok"
" turpitude, as in "moral turpitude"
Looks like we're in a paradox.
selfish_liberal ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:40:46 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And shabby. Never heard of anything described as too shabby.
white_n_mild ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shabby chic
the_bass_saxophone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mr Ken Shabby
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 14:46:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Siarles ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:37:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe in the context of telephones, but we still use it for physically hanging things on other things. The individual words are nowhere near fossilized too.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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JSnake1024 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:12:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or latino
Fritz37605 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:16 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...amok is a fossil word?...I don't think so...
barefo89 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:40:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nooks and crannies.
Odds and ends?
trippysmurf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:54:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have access to Cambodian cuisine, amok becomes a regular word because that meal is delicious.
jnh14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but the Cambodian word might be different than the English word.
And I might be ignorant so tread lightly.
THE_GR8_MIKE ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:09:41 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is spiraling out of amok.
cool_slowbro ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:23:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"moral turpitude" must be a fossil idiom.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:29:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Choosing_is_a_sin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's not.
HugItChuckItFootball ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:30:02 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or as in Amok Time. DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH BBBBBLLLLLLAAAAHHHHH!
handlegoeshere ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:39:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So be it.
mannyrmz123 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:43:40 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In that list you should add 'dank' as in 'dank memes'.
Choosing_is_a_sin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why? Dank can be used with other words as well.
aakksshhaayy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:47:42 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kith is not a fossil word, Mike Tyson uses it all the time.
Choosing_is_a_sin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:59 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rate of use is not a factor in this designation.
JackNorthropsGhost ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:58:23 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ironically a "fossil watch" is a similarly useless affectation
cheesesteakers ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:21:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea what this means. I use the word amok from time to time which makes this even more confusing.
phil035 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:26:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still use a fair few of these words and I use "running amok" to discribe how my daughter lives her life atleast twice a week, as does a lot of people I know as well as strangers in my area.... list must have been written by americans
Thoughtful_Name ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:46 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you might have missed the definition of a fossil word, or even the words in the title. "Running amok" or "run amok" is an idiom still in common use, but the word "amok" is not really used outside of this idiom, so the example you gave is actually a textbook usage of a fossil word in an idiom.
19cocaine95 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:18:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate standart words that nobody never uses
zixx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If no one uses them, they can't really be standard. Maybe they used to be.
blueeyes_austin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:20:07 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL quoting minor and trivial and wrong Wiki articles is a way to look really stupid.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 15:42:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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BOWWOWCNWBEKXIQHWBFN ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:49:57 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Barometers are still common
biffbobfred ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:21:10 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More common - some smartphones have them.
Magnanimous- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:44:03 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How would a smartphone sense barometric pressure?
biffbobfred ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:47:19 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure the exact mechanism. You can google it.
My guess would be:
Pressure sensor in a box sandwiched between two plates. As air pressure increase decreases you by different pressures.
ProfFrizzo ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:35:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's pronounced thermometer
AllPurposeNerd ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:51 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Merry.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:28 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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atla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:00 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, "shabby" is (at least in my experience) often used outside of that phrase. Like, "there was a shabby-looking shirt hung up on the line", or "Phil was looking rather shabby today." Something like that.
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 17:22:15 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Sunrise , Sunset . The sun isn't the thing that is moving.. but as Carl Sagan said "Timmy, be home before the earth has rotated so much as to completely occult the sun."
Also "Sunset" is based on the old Egyptian god of Shadows and Darkness "Set".
Edit: Well, maybe my thoughts on the origin of Set were misguided, but the sun isn't rising or setting regardless of that. Downvote me to hell, but those words are both based on old egocentric beliefs.
Derpese_Simplex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:56:58 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Source on the Egypt bit?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:11:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not so sure about that, as "set" is the English word with the most definitions. I assume it comes from set as in set something down on a table
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:12:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My source (although a bit tinfoil hat-ish) is Zeitgeist: The movie.
As for the Carl Sagin bit, it's from Pale Blue Dot.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:49:12 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well according to wiktionary, it is from sun + set, where set is the normal english word and not the god.
iDontWorkForOREO ยท -25 points ยท Posted at 14:26:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll tell you what will never be considered generally obsolete.. Oreos!
tehbored ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:51:34 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, novelty accounts still exist?! A living fossil!
seahorsekiller ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
delete your account thx
DroolingIguana ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:32:01 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hydrox, on the other hand...
Fummy ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use "amok"
LadyKlaymoor ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 15:33:29 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like "rewind" as in "be kind, rewind."
slowmoon ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:00:13 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, "rewind" is used by itself all the time.