I was pretty sure I was seeing "if" twice for a moment. And I suppose, depending on how the raster scan works on my phone and whether the video decoder waits for vsync, maybe I was.
To allow a short clip of many words? What? Is the program gonna stop you and say, "No. You can't do that. It's not allowed."? I'd be pretty upset if it did that.
EDIT: This was a simple mistake of me not understanding what reflow was. There's no need to call me retarded or anything like that. Jesus fuck.
I knew immediately what this was after feeling the same pain as all of you while working on stupid school projects. I spent so mush time finding the perfect don't size so that it would fill the screen but not do this shit.
4kVHS ยท 269 points ยท Posted at 17:11:52 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does it still do it if you set a static font size like 72?
๐๏ธ danman_d ยท 183 points ยท Posted at 19:12:52 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blender is free and arguably has more features than any of those other ones.
ratocx ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:23:50 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More, but not all of the same. Workflow also matters.
Spekular ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:25:16 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm oddly attached to the VSE, but it's got lots of annoyances:
Dealing with video/images larger than the canvas sucks
You can't tell a strip what interpolation to use when scaling something from source to canvas size unless you disable scaling on the strip and add a transform to do the scale.
At some framerates it displays the wrong image when going frame-by-frame until you hit "refresh sequencer". I was dealing with 23.3 or something and it would consistently be one frame behind.
Mixing a strip + effect with the strip below has occasionally been weird for me, so now I tend to make them into a metastrip and set the blend mode on that instead.
Trying to cache audio for videos that are too long crashes Blender.
VSE rendering is poorly threaded AFAIK.
You can't choose a font for the Text effect (formatting in general sucks), and the input field is tiny.
If you install filmic blender and set blender to use it for 3D renders, that will also affect the VSE. There's even a separate VSE setting that didn't fix the issue for me, you have to change the whole color management thing back to sRGB.
I wish there were a way to spread out the cached frames. Instead of fullspeed playback for X number of cached frames and then terrible fps, it'd be nice to have an even framerate the whole time. I imagine this could be hard to implement and it might be a problem in other editors too for all I know.
That said, I like it quite a bit anyway.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:47:50 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:34 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's terrible for actually editing things? Like I literally couldn't imagine a worse experience for editing.
Kwpolska ยท 660 points ยท Posted at 18:30:34 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs iMovie, a free toy. A big TV channel over here uses a โtyping letter by letterโ effect for viewer comments sometimes. And they reflow text on-the-fly. So professional.
RichB93 ยท 387 points ยท Posted at 20:34:54 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, for a freebie it's actually pretty damned good.
Yes. Lots of people here trying to shit on iMovie but it's actually rather impressive for a free editor. You can push it pretty far if you know what you're doing.
That's a great comparison. Although in this case, more like a barely-lit cigarette as opposed to a butt. iMovie still fulfills its role for an amateur videographer.
I think you grossly underestimate how much funding and work is necessary to create and maintain amazing editing software like Premier.
Plus, not everyone who buys a mac is into video editing. Having pricey software incorporated into the device on the off chance that they like videography seems pointless if you ask me.
And, like I said, iMovie is a great application anyway. Not many people realize just how much you can do with it, even if it's behind a couple of lists. And when I say "amateur" I mean anybody who doesn't create videos for a living; people who make vids for fun.
aa93 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:50:42 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In 7th grade I made an awesome "documentary" on Bioterrorism using iMovie on my Dad's G5. It has its place.
I would say that most true Pro video editors aren't using a laptop as their primary editing workstation. Unless they like running out of disk space and waiting forever for exports/renders.
I don't think people buy macbooks specifically for the purpose of using iMovie. That's like getting mad at somebody with a gaming PC for using Paint instead of buying Creative Cloud.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:18:38 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Davinci Resolve
You need a decent GPU to touch that program though as well as some good ram. It's out of reach for most people who just want to make a movie of their vacation. Lightworks is a decent alternative but your limited to 720p unless you pay.
MrTX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:50 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just finished using it to edit a music video and it ran pretty damn smooth on my 2013 macbook pro. As long as you use it's optimize media function and proxies, then it gave me a full 24fps in playback and rendered a 3 minute music video with some pretty heavy effects in about 9 minutes. I can live with that.
th1341 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:45:14 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit I canโt figure Davinci resolve out. I personally Adobe products but iMovie is really good for being free
Phyltre ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:08:44 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're awfully verbose for an Adobe products. Which ones are you?
th1341 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:14 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use After Effects most of the time, but I use premier, and photoshop as well
Edit: I donโt do to much with it. I like to play around with everything. I know a little bit of a lot of programming languages, I like photography, videography, graphic design, web development. You name it, Iโve probably tried it. Iโm not claiming to be a genius. But I fly racing drone and when I need to edit a video for YouTube, my choice is Adobe at the moment. Not an expert.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:59 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
worth every penny
shwhjw ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:31:34 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Free after you pay an extortionate amount for the OS...
th1341 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:10:24 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The OS is free. But yes. Hardware is very expensive. I prefer to do software development on a Mac than windows or Linux though. Not sure why. So I have one already. I sure as hell wouldnโt buy a Mac just for iMovie. Donโt get me wrong
MrTX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:30 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Davinci Resolve and it's companion VFX program Fusion 9 are both free and packed to shit with features. I just finished my first music video edit and it was legit. The color grading is magical.
Jman88s ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 20:12:15 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Windows Movie Maker >
Nodeemus ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:35:42 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a free demo that came with Windows 95. You had to buy the full version. There was also a Nickelodeon version, I didn't have that one unfortunately but a friend of mine did.
Honestly, looking back it was probably pretty shitty, but I absolutely loved it as a kid. I'd love to get it running again somehow.
Moath ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:32:12 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should check it on YouTube. It basically did the resident evil and final fantasy pre rendered background thing and you can place actors in the scenes and have them perform ready made animations.
Many hours spent on that thing.
MAKING EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL FRAME IN MICROSOFT PAINT, TAKING PICTURES WITH THE FRONT FACING CAMERA OF A TOSHIBA LAPTOP, AND SCREEN RECORDING IT AS A SLIDESHOW >
You haven't mentioned it enough. Don't forget to compile your kernel.
Kwpolska ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:21:46 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back when I tried it a year or two ago, it couldnโt even do a basic crossfade. I mean, the effect was here, but using it put black frames in my video.
This blows my mind cause there was a good 15 years there where FCP was the DE FACTO STANDARD for digital editing. Premiere was absolutely trash and Avid was good but expensive as shit
skiskate ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:16:23 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Final Cut Pro went to absolute trash after 7.
God know why Apple thought it would be a good idea to appeal to the "average" consumer with professional grade editing software.
Like replacing the render/export menu with "share".
Oh I know I was a Xsan administrator for a while for a companies TV production group. After Apple abandoned the Xserve, and went to shit with FCP 8 we moved completely to Premiere. I also worked for Apple in higher education sales in the early 2000's when we were pushing to colleges to switch to Apple for a significantly cheaper price over Avid which was still mostly a hardware solution. It's just shocking how quickly all that inroads crashed down from 3-4 truly boneheaded moves.
Rubix89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:53 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now Premiere has made great advances in recent years and actually has some credibility behind it. AVID is still the industry standard but I kind of feel their innovation has stagnated over the years. It's real hook is the reliability.
Rubix89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:33:58 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FCP is kind of like advanced iMovie. The UI is just ugly and counterintuitive if you learned in AVID or Premiere first. But if you're coming directly from iMovie to FCP then it's a great step up.
Although I think AVID is still really ugly in its own right anyways.
I think any UI is going to seem counterintuitive if you have come from a different program with a different philosophy.
Zagorath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:08 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Find Cut Pro is leaps and bounds better than the others for smaller projects like short films, advertising, online content, etc. It's also, obviously, much better for the prosumer market than any of its competitors. None of them can even touch it in that market.
It's also improved a fuckload since the initial release of X. Most of the criticisms I've seen levied at it were valid then, but are not now. People just haven't updated their opinion in about 5 years (10.0.6 being the version that brought the last of the most common criticisms).
tdRftw ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:12:18 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No love for Vegas pro?
skiskate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:13:33 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vegas has never really had any industry use.
Nowhere near as much as Avid or Premiere (and Final Cut years ago)
tdRftw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:22:19 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
are we talking about industry use or enthusiast video makers? I highly doubt anyone in this comment chain is in the "industry"
skiskate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:25:18 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Industry
I'm an Editor/DIT but i'm still college student.
This is all information from my professors who have worked (and are still currently working) in the industry for years.
Avid is still the industry standard, but Premiere is quickly catching up.
Rubix89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:50 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank God. I learned AVID first and now it feels like a chore to use in comparison to Premiere.
Rubix89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:19 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in the "industry" and I've never seen any serious post house or studio use Vegas.
But I do remember being a part of the AMV scene back in the day and Vegas was all the rage for a lot of young editors. Starting out it had some great capabilities back then but it realistically just can't cut it like the other mentioned programs.
Well I got that it was the owner responding on the bot account, I don't know why I phrased it like that. I should have said it's cool that the author of the bot continues to reply to comments on the bot's stuff.
Yeah the owner is responding. I do it a lot on my bot accounts too. When responding to people when they ask questions it's a lot easier to just stay on the account rather than switch to your main account every time you want to read and then respond to a message.
The automoderator code is very basic and can only do really simple things. Python is a much more powerful language to use, and can do everything the automoderator can and more. It would be a really neat feature if reddit allowed moderators to code the automoderator using a Python clone language rather than the language it uses currently, but limit things that would be too stressful on the servers.
.gif images are slow-loading, they are usually small in resolution, crappy colors and framerates, and they take up huge ammounts of storage (which might be a problem for slow and/or capped connections.
.gifv (Imgur) or gfys (Gfycat) are much better in every single way.
They're fine for their purpose. Stuff like short animations (like the looping metal slug above) /loading buttons etc.
But dickheads put videos in them which the gif format is so not prepared for that the file is usually anywhere from 20mb to 200mb when stored in a gif.
So it's pretty annoying that apps and web browsers that suppose vuideo playback, aren't being offered a video option. But to be honest, if you're on a device they does NOT support anything but gif files, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DOWNLOAD SOME 100MB GIF? probably not either.
The fact they gfycat even allows you to view the original uploaded gif is stupid. Because that's what everyone began posting instead of video links like their site was designed for.
Them or imgur could easily read your User Agent (e.g. Firefox 3.5.0) and send you the video data instead for some automated optimization but no for some reason nobodies fucking doing that shit.
And now reddits on the upload train too, they said gifs will become videos but that never happened. And uploading videos to Reddit has never loaded slower!
God. Everyone's trying to be 'the guy' and they're all doing it wrong.
Seaflame ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:14 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh, I've never known there was much of a difference between those types. Thanks!
As the bot demonstrates, an MP4 is smaller than the equivalent GIF. It also provides better quality when needed. There's just no real reason to keep using GIFs now.
I wish this would hook into mobile apps so I can get the smaller version before my flip view automatically loads the gif.
Mr12i ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:53 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The biggest reason I like this bot is that hosting companies throw out millions of used hard discs out yearly, which is catastrophic for the environment. Digital storage is a limited resource, and should be treated as such.
Nixinova ยท 190 points ยท Posted at 19:11:15 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is, it would've originally not done that, then someone coded it in. But why tho
Flynamic ยท 271 points ยท Posted at 19:48:37 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they just use a normal Cocoa text view and animate it by increasing the text box size instead of scaling the view. That would be standard functionality in the AppKit text system, and they forgot to turn it off.
ciano ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 19:51:52 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DemIce ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:26:58 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't scale the view, though. If you scale the view, you also scale the letters. The idea of an expand is that you increase the letter-spacing (the space between letters beyond the kerning), but keep the letters the same size. That said.. yes, the text box size isn't keeping up with the expansion from the letter-spacing being increased. A silly mistake, to be sure.
Flynamic ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:41:10 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, yeah I noticed what the actual intended effect was only after writing my comment but left it there because it's kinda semi accurate. Text in video editing should only act like UI text views during editing and not during preview/rendering.
not necessarily, there could be many ways to program the same thing. Maybe they programmed it so that the font slowly gets larger and it tries to fit the text in the line on each frame rather than render the text once and expand it
DemIce ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:29:10 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The font doesn't get larger - the gap between letters gets larger. Depending on implementation, Flynamic probably is on the right path. If there's a text box (which would cause line wraps), and the expand effect increases letter-spacing, then that text box must keep up with the rate of expansion. If it doesn't, the text would naturally reflow. There's plenty of work-arounds, but this is definitely a bug that should be an easy fix.
nb4hnp ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 17:38:37 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent presentation of the problem, OP.
SinkTube ยท 729 points ยท Posted at 16:13:26 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
once again apple's keen eye for detail is put on display. good show, jolly good show
[deleted] ยท 208 points ยท Posted at 17:16:07 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost as good as the headphone jack.
[deleted] ยท 295 points ยท Posted at 17:34:55 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, that was a deliberate action to get people to buy their wireless airbuds. Still a massive dick move, but a deliberate one.
atyon ยท 164 points ยท Posted at 18:15:18 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing I found really stupid was calling it a "courageous" move.
Yeah, maybe people prefer bluetooth headphones these days, but the only courage you need for that change is the courage to piss off some of your costumers. And you shouldn't brag about that.
But everything's radical, magical and courageous with Apple. Especially when they are late to the party.
Can't wait to hear them talking about how they invented the seamless smartphone display.
That's the thing I never got. Courage is doing something regardless of the consequences. They knew they'd anger people, people got angry, then people were outraged that Apple would call it courageous, WHILE they were doing the very thing that proved Apple right.
I'll never buy a phone without a headphone jack, I can't understand why a manufacturer would choose to remove it. It doesn't matter what major companies have decided to remove it, there will always be people who use the jack.
Except those still have plenty of uses, even today. While bluetooth devices might be a favourable option for some, it still has plenty of downsides compared to the standard headphone jack.
You have to make sure two devices (your phone and your headphones) are charged, the audio quality often isn't great and your phone uses more battery because of bluetooth.
I wouldn't be opposed to a different audio port becoming the new standard if it was smaller, achieved equivalent or better quality, and was still stable. The problem is that bluetooth is only solving one of those problems, while creating more of its own. The audio quality is noticeably worse (and has a much lower ceiling for quality), keeping a charge now becomes an issue for something that people had never had to previously think about, and the only thing it allows the corporations behind the switch to do is gimp their own devices. Sure, phones without the 3.5mm can be engineered to be thinner, but along with that comes smaller and smaller batteries. Now not only do you have to charge your earbuds, but you have to charge your actual phone more often too. I realize that last point isn't the best argument, as it's essentially just arguing for (arguably) artificial limitations. But that's what's going to happen without that limitation in place. Bluetooth isn't really an improvement over 3.5mm at all, which is why people are upset about the slow shift. Times change, but they're supposed to change for the better.
About the charging phone fact: the iPhone 7 has an amazing battery life, like 24 hours, many people used it with low power mode for an entire week! So thatโs not really a problem.
I have the AirPods, and i found the sound quality the same as my old buds, but i would prefer hearing an expert about this.
As opposed to what? Migrating between different analog jacks is not the same as removing any analog option at all for wireless. I have no problem finding different phones that have a headphone jack, and most people I know agree, including my tech illiterate family members who are really bummed to have to switch off of iPhones they've been on for years.
I know in the long run, Apple will do fine if they decide to keep it off, but unlike other things Apple's killed off (e.g. flash), some people will be unwilling to give up a physical analog headphone jack. The headphone jack is the single most ubiquitous connector in technology right now, an international standard on devices from desktop computers to phones, with support for literally any device that can play analog audio. It's going nowhere soon, and it will always exist.
I love Bluetooth and use it often - I have Bluetooth headphones and a Bluetooth receiver for my main stereo system, but just like WiFi doesn't replace Ethernet entirely, Bluetooth (and equivalent systems) will never replace physical analog connections.
gsfgf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:32 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The iPhone comes with an adapter. I assume the Pixel will too
An adapter is a clumsy solution when you can easily integrate those electronics directly into the phone. Why would I take a step backward? There are plenty of top of the line phones to choose from if you're willing to pick something non-Apple.
There will always be phones with a headphone jack - it's been a universal connector for literally decades and is still used on equipment across the technological spectrum. It's not even remotely comparable to removable batteries, which have entirely different benefits and no real standard. I won't buy an iPhone is they keep it removed (which is a shame, they're good phones), and I will switch off the Galaxy line if they remove it.
Rumors aside, I highly doubt many companies will follow suit - there isn't much of an advantage to removing the jack, it was a silly decision on Apple's part. Just like WiFi hasn't replaced (and won't replace) Ethernet, Bluetooth and equivalent systems will not replace physical analog jacks.
honda27 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:46:35 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Non-removable batteries are still complete horseshit. Not having a jack is also complete horseshit, and will remain so.
Disagree if apple didn't have plans to remove it, I don't believe it would even be on the table to remove the headphone jack for at least a few more years while we wait for better Bluetooth or alternatives to it.
But OEMs follow Apple. Sometimes it makes sense, sometimes it's short sighted.
WTPanda ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:17:36 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seems almost as if Apple saw what was coming and decided to do away with the jack first.
Apple didn't see anything coming. They just have such an avid fan base that those drones will buy anything Apple launches. They were just cashing in because they could and everyone else will follow suit.
SinkTube ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:41:49 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the thing is, apple was never in any danger. the outrage didnt hurt them and they knew it wouldnt. apple is acting like brave revolutionaries over a low-risk business decision
imbargo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:31:24 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Courage is doing something regardless of the consequences.
That's a shitty definition of courageous. Someone smoking for a lifetime regardless of lung cancer is not "courageous". A person who shops themselves into credit card debt is not "courageous".
nermid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:57:12 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Under a strict reading, literally all actions are courageous under that definition.
atyon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:29:51 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They knew they'd anger people, people got angry, then people were outraged that Apple would call it courageous
Did you consider people mocking them for the "courage" thing and the people getting angry about the removal aren't necessarily the same people?
Even if people prefer wireless headphones, having a wired option is still a good thing. I've got some wireless headphones but for whatever reason my laptop can't connect to them. Fortunately, since my headphones have a 3.5mm connection too, I can just use a cable instead.
Musely ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 20:35:58 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I need a wired option because of my cochlear implant (I'm deaf and the CI helps me hear). I use an audio cable to connect my cochlear implant to whatever I'm playing audio with, be it my phone or the computer or my PS4 controller. The audio cable uses the headphone jack so...
Whatever company made your CI should be more courageous and make them Bluetooth compatible from now on /s
Musely ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:47:48 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They did but I don't like Bluetooth -- there's some audio issues with the bluetooth implementation in my cochlear implant. Funny enough, Cochlear announced a partnership with Apple for Cochlear 7 to be directly compatible with an iPhone. Feels bad when I'm rocking an Android phone and don't even want an iPhone.
Thanks for the info. Hopefully most Android phones keep the jack until Bluetooth is more reliable. It seems silly that technology like a CI would partner up with one tech company instead of continuing to make one implant that's compatible with all kinds of phones, audio jack and Bluetooth alike
gsfgf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:21:26 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The partnership is apparently just that it'll use W1. If that's correct, it'll still work with all phones but pair better with iPhones.
The largest and most popular Android phone maker, Samsung, removed the headphone jack from their most recent flagship. It's looking like even Google is doing away with the headphone jack on their upcoming Pixel 2 phones.
Edit: Not Samsung. I don't know what I was thinking of, I've even played around with the S8 so who knows.
Then buy an Android phone with a 3.5mm jack. And you can get a microSD card too.
I think Apple's shown that the average consumer doesn't really care about the lack of headphone jack. And those who do have switched away from the iPhone.
I'm just mad that other Android manufacturers are following the decision. I don't get it - there was so much backlash, and a bunch of manufactures poked fun at it. And then went and did it themselves. :(
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:32:28 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah the lack of port aids the water resistant nature (my favorite feature) of my iPhone. I use it in the shower practically every night not worrying about that port that I never use getting water in it.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:52:22 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how all those waterproof smartphone with audio jacks managed...
They used a plug that screws into the hole similar to a lifeproof case. It's really lame if you don't care about that jack being there in the first place and it's efficiency wore out over time. Lifeproof cases suck too because you have to buy a new one when it wears out (only 6 months for mine). a solid surface with no jack at all holds up continuously.
txarum ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:26:56 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you know what people also prefer? cheaper phones. remove a component. and your device will both be cheaper and more reliable.
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:55:20 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
>talking about iphones
>"cheaper phones"
now this is comedy
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:33 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
everything is built with cost saving in mind. everything. if you think otherwise you are dumb
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:01:10 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and you're dumb if you think that translates to lower prices
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:36 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
of course it means lower prices. there are thousands of people selling smartphones. lowering prices means outcompeating them. this is not a monopoly. lower the prices, improve the product, or go bankrupt. pick one
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:06 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lmao, you have to be joking. apple doesnt have to lower prices to outcompete anyone, apple has a monopoly on iOS and the apple logo, and that's enough to keep people buying no matter what they do
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:05 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if that was true. why do they spend billions on developing the new Iphone every year? seems like a terrible business decision if you have a monopoly. are they just spending billions to improve mobile technology out of the goodwill of their hearts?
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:28:14 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
because having a monopoly doesnt mean much if it's on a product nobody wants?
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:33 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
then its not a monopoly. its quite literally the opposite of one
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:08 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
monopoly is about supply. how much demand there is is completely irrelevant
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:17:45 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but other people make smartphones. so you can't make a shitty expensive smartphone and sell it. they will buy something else. therefore they don't have a monopoly. you don't have a monopoly if other people can provide the same thing as you can. and lots of people can make just as good phones as a iphone
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:03 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the monopoly is on iOS, not smartphones. nobody other than apple can legally provide iOS
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:34 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thats not a monopoly. thats called selling a brand. having a monopoly means owning significantly of something there is a demand for
iOS is not a marked. it just happens to be a popular brand. smartphones is a marked. smartphones has a demand. you have to continue working on improving your product. or else other people will outsell you in that marked. and that means you can't just ignore cost and imagine everyone is going to buy your product.
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:41 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if you abstract enough you can say the same for phones. smartphones arent a market, they're just a kind of computer
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:19 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no that is not the same thing. there is not a need for ios. but there is a need for smartphones. that is a own marked. if suddenly apple where to build all smartphones they would have a monopoly on smartphones. ASUS could not come in and try to sell their laptops as a alternative to smartphones. because it is a different marked
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:07 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there is not a need for io
i agree, but tell that to the fanboys
but seriously there are a lot of people who depend on iOS. android is not a valid alternative to them
ASUS could not come in and try to sell their laptops as a alternative to smartphones. because it is a different marked
and samsung cant sell a galaxy as an alternative to an iphone, because it too is a different market. iOS/android is as different as smartphone/laptop to a lot of people
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:34 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the fact that a guy would never buy anything does not mean its a monopoly. if a guy can't buy anything else. then it is a monopoly.
the fact that only apple devices run Angry Birds 8k. does not mean that apple has a monopoly on devices that can run that app. because that app can be updated to other phones. if apple makes the only phones strong enough to run that app. then it is a monopoly. a monopoly on superior phones. but apple does not have that. and the marked on superior phones is not large enough to allow you to ramp up the prices. which is what you supposedly said they could.
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:57 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if a guy can't buy anything else
then nothing is a monopoly. you can always buy something else
because that app can be updated to other phones
haha what? it's not a monopoly because it's theoretically possible for another device to exist that can do the same thing?
a monopoly on superior phones
hardware specs isnt the only thing that can make a phone superior. the unique, proprietary software on it can be just as important. and the demand for that is more than enough to ramp up prices
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:36 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
then nothing is a monopoly. you can always buy something else
if you can buy something else, it is not a monopoly. good luck finding a alternative to copper
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:28 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iron. next challenge
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:40 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
please stop acting like a idiot. they are not even remotely similar. try making a electricity grid with iron. even if you somehow made a cable out of it you can not make a transformer. so you are pretty much stuck with light bulbs and heating.
what about microchips? electric motors? heat dispersion? anything that has electricity at all really.
there is no alternative to copper. which is why there are laws against having a monopoly on it. that is what it means to have a monopoly
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:24 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh, there are things you can only do with copper? hey look, it has something in common with iOS!
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:02 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but there is not a demand for iOS. there is a big demand copper. you can't have a monopoly on things without a demand.
there is not a demand for iOS. people choose to use iOS becouse it is a great system. thats not a monopoly. thats popularity. any task you can perform on a iOS phone can also be performed equally good on other devices.
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:52 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there is not a demand for iOS. people choose to use iOS
do... do you know what demnd is?
any task you can perform on a iOS phone can also be performed equally good on other devices
unless those tasks involve apps/processes that arent available outside iOS
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:41 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
unless those tasks involve apps/processes that arent available outside iOS
name one app on iOS that does not have a equally good alternative on android
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:36 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
anything meant to seamlessly interface with other apple products, for one
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:08 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you name one of them?
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:20 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
does android have anything on par with imessage? works seamlessly on phone, tablet, and desktop without pairing, and with SMS fallback?
i realize there are other messagers, but you did specify "equally good"
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:19 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Facebook Messenger does the exact same thing. it can even sync between your android phone and your ipad. sync between all your devices. not just some of them.
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:36 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
facebook messenger has SMS?
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:07 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:19 on August 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
even to people who didnt give facebook their number or dont have facebook at all?
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:13 on August 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I guess everyone in this thread hasn't heard that the Google Pixel 2 is rumored to have no headphone jack?
Thus making Apple's decision to be the first one to go in that direction possibly a little bit... dare I say?... Courageous? after all.
Ysmir_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:08:19 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can be courageous and stupid at the same time. Removing the headphone jack just forces people to spend more money and the price of phones isnt going to decrease because of it
atyon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:27:40 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't heard.
Either Apple is correct and headphone jacks are a relict of the past (at least in the high priced segment). Or it's not and the decision is courageous but stupid.
Removing obsolete ports just isn't courageous. Apple didn't brag about removing firewire, or floppy or optical disc drives. They just did it and didn't rub it in. And they weren't the first in removing either of these.
It's no big deal either way. I just felt about it like I felt about the car pool karaoke. It was a stupid way to announce it.
Although it says they've sold over 215M iPhones since the iPhone 7 was released, nowhere does it differentiate which phones were which. Of those 215M, it could've been a majority of non-iPhone 7s (Phone 6, 6S, and SE). Of course, it could also be a majority of iPhone 7s, but we'll never know. Apple never gives those details.
Me personally, I'm hoping a majority of those sales were not iPhone 7s, giving Apple a sign that people care more about the headphone jack than they thought. Especially when there was no engineering-related reason to remove it. Their official response during the keynote was they removed it for a bigger Taptic engine and battery. Except a bigger vibrator motor does not really improve the iOS experience by much (definitely not enough to warrant removing the headphone jack) and a bigger battery could've easily been done by just making the phone slightly thicker (there's no need for having super-slim phones, especially at the expense of smaller batteries).
The choice to remove the headphone jack was definitely a business decision, not an engineering one. Apple has been all about profit-making business decisions ever since Tim Cook got in charge, which makes sense given that's what he's best at (and probably why Steve Jobs wanted him to be CEO rather than someone with more of an engineering background than an business one).
atyon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:44:59 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't be surprised if the SE is flying from the shelves for a simple reason โ it's a lot cheaper. An iPhone 7 is 760โฌ, the SE costs 480โฌ.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the price of the SE is fine tuned to keep people with lower budgets on Team iOS. A solid Android phone is, let's say, 300โฌ. A big gap to the 7, but maybe an acceptable one to the SE.
nermid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:05:04 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there's no need for having super-slim phones, especially at the expense of smaller batteries
Especially since it makes them so fragile that people buy third-party cases that make them thicker, anyway.
this has been done to death...the book is not meant for normal consumers. and it's about in the same price range as other similar design books.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:12:28 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ccooffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:21 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apple pays more taxes than any other company in the world.
McBurger ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:38:59 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a deliberate action to fit a larger & longer-lasting battery.
If they wanted to force people to buy wireless earbuds, they wouldn't include a complimentary headphone jack adapter & set of wird headphones in each box.
The battery isn't that much larger, 1960mAh for the 7 Vs 1860mAh for the 6S.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:22:51 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the battery is outstanding though. 99% of the people in this thread who are bitching and complaining have no relevant experience with any apple products.
Hell, even 80+% of anybody who owns an iPhone has no fucking idea what it can do and how far the functionality reaches. We're just surrounded by clueless ignorant little dicks who simply have no idea just how ignorant they are yet they constantly feel the need to share their wrong opinions with the rest of us.
For example to anybody reading this who owns an iphone 6s or higher, you probably didnt know that you can use force touch to hard press down on the keyboard to turn the keyboard into a trackpad to position the cursor. If you did know that good for you but for you there were at least 10 people who didnt know.
It's little things like that which ad up a lot to the overal quality and experience of a product, but most people can just send some emails, browse facebook, and they barely know how to operate the camera (for example most people even dont know you can take pictures with the volume buttons)
I'm not trying to show off at all or anything i just like to press my point about how strong people's opinions are on products they know nearly nothing about
It's the same thing with android devices, if not more so - most people don't know how much you can customise any android device.
nanaIan ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:43:04 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They knew that requiring an adapter would piss everyone off, though. So people bought 7-specific headphones and bluetooth ones..
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:28 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Push those goalposts.
Hryggja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:43 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So which is it? They wanted to force people to buy AirPods, or the wanted to piss people off with the Lightning headphones? Because pissing people off typically isn't how companies attempt to improve sales.
nanaIan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:52:03 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing. Piss a person off using the adapter and then they will likely decide to buy AirPods or 7-specific headphones (that Apple still gets money from) since using the adapter was annoying.
Hryggja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:28 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does Apple make more money off the Lightning headphones than the 3.5 ones?
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:13 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
3.5mm is an open standard, apple doesnt make any money when you sell a 3.5mm headphone
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:46:02 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't it also allow for better waterproofing though?
Fritzed ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 18:18:37 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a claim that apple made, but it has been thoroughly debunked by the number of devices that have headphone jacks and waterproofing. Everyone always mentions the newer Galaxy phones and Sony Xperia's before that, but really there have been waterproof devices with headphone jacks for decades already even before that.
Apple didn't claim that though. Their main goal was to get everyone to move to wireless headphones and removing the jack let them fit a better Taptic Engine next to the home button.
Their main goal was to get everyone to move to wireless headphones and/or Lightning headphones
FTFY. Apple has everything to benefit from more Lightning accessories being sold since they make a percentage off of it. Also the reason why they'll never switch iOS devices to USB-C. You're more likely to see a portless iOS device than one with a USB-C port.
It might simplify the internal design, and save a tiny bit on the production of each phone.
Honestly though, I think the Pixel team just follows what Apple sets - there was an interview with one of the people who worked on the first Pixel, who said that the reason they didn't go thicker with more battery life was because Apple set the bar the thickness, or something like that.
I personally don't agree with those decisions, but the Pixel is pretty popular now, so what do I know.
Who knows. Google is definitely not in the position to be making such decisions given they sold at best 5 or 10 million Pixels, nowhere near iPhone/Galaxy numbers.
Then again, this is the same Google that seemingly has had the same person in charge of their manufacturing/distribution of phones the past 8 years or so because they never seem to ship more than a dozen phones at a time.
Hypothetically yes. But apple isn't pushing for lightning headphones and neither is any other manufacturer. All manufacturers including apple have more to gain from selling wireless headphones. Profits from lightning headphone accessories are just a drop in the bucket.
honestly, i think it's some sort of agreement in the tech industry that wireless is going to be the next epoch in headphones.
sashir ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 19:55:10 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which means instead of mediocre low priced wired headphones that I buy because I have kids, I will soon be forced to buy really shitty sounding headphones at twice the price that have a poor battery life. I really hope not. Bluetooth means tracking yet another charger and another point of failure, as well as squeezing the margins, leading to worse quality for more money.
I need an ensure and a fucking nap so I can go yell at a cloud later.
So much not true here. The battery life on my BeatsX are fantastic. And they charge in 5 mins for 2 hours of playback, full charge is about 30 or so minutes. They are not shitty sounding, they are not bass heavy like many assume. And they charge with the same lightning charger the phone uses.
I agree that they are more expensive. That said, there are high quality earbuds that are wired that are similar in price and quality.
As I mentioned before, I've used mine consistently since they were released and never had a battery issue. I ran out once, charged for 5 mins and I was ok for the remainder of the time I needed them.
Good for you, making decisions and shit based on your own preferences. Don't expect other peoples needs to be the same as yours, especially when it comes to consumerism.
I'm not trolling, you aren't required to reply to me. There are plenty of private chat rooms online, if you don't like how anyone on reddit can comment on what anyone else says, that's your problem.
sashir ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:01 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wireless is going to be the next epoch in headphones.
I mean, sure. Eventually. When BT headphones last days/weeks on a single charge and/or able to charge to 80% within minutes. And when latency is negligible.
Those are the main two gripes for not using BT headphones right now. Not to mention possible multiple devices requesting access to the same BT headphones at the same time (i.e. you paired them with your phone and computer, and to prevent one from overtaking the other, you pretty much have to turn off BT on one of them). BT currently has way too many problems/inconveniences to fully replace wired headphones at the moment. Buying a device with no headphone jack is committing to that inconvenience.
It'd be like buying a car that feels slightly uncomfortable to sit in. Sure, it has all the bells and whistles, but you always have to find your comfort zone every time you sit in it. Every. Time.
gsfgf ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:53 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AirPods go a long way to address those issues. The headphones themselves last a pretty long time, and the case gives you several charges. Charging is still slow, but you can charge the case while using the headphones. And W1 makes pairing work a lot better. I haven't actually tried switching between devices though since I don't really use headphones with the computer.
If it was an attempt to sell wireless headphones, they would've made more wireless headphones.
RiZZaH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:44 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really, they offered a solution. First guys that dropped a floppy drive also supplied a solution. People are just way too triggered about letting technology advance these days. If everyone keeps wanting more in smaller cases, stuff needs to change and replacing a huge space occupant like a 3.5mm jack is one of them.
But they don't want more in smaller cases. Do you hear anyone with a modern smartphone complaining about how thick their phone is. I'd much rather have a thicker phone that doesn't break instantly, but then how will they make money on repairs.
As far as their editing software goes, they've been dead to the editing world for years now. Some people really held out on FCP 7, hoping in vain that Apple would fix Final Cut and return as an industry leader, but nah, they left it fucked up and unusable and now nobody uses it. Everyone has mostly switched to Premiere or stayed on Avid.
perplex1 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:48:26 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dead to the editing world
It isn't dead. And initially, yes pro-editors were hesitant to use it. However; FCPX is widely used amongst editors today -- small filmmakers have exploded on the scene as the barrier to entry for videography and filmmaking shrinks and they are using the shit out of it. And if you haven't noticed, with the release of FCPX 10.3, its regarded as apple's comeback back into the editing world. Quite a huge improvement.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:19 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:51:43 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FCPX is stupid fast. I don't use it personally but it's far from dead.
Ok don't knock on FCP 9. Also FCPx has found its niche in kind of a new generation of "filmmakers" who work primarily on YouTube and it suits their needs perfectly. Maybe it's not really living up to the "pro" name but people have made millions with FCPx
Apple is betting on future content creation being driven less by professionals and more by the average YouTuber. Apple "Pro" products haven't been targeted at professionals since they turned their workstation into a trashcan.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:47:32 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what exactly does this have to do with titles in imovie?
_dpk ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 19:47:30 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iMovie has really gone downhill in recent years. In one update they removed the ability to have text titles that didn't have any transition (fading or sliding or whatever) when starting and ending, condemning iMovie edits to eternal amateur appearance in much the same way the zoom function on handycams made all home videos look identically crap.
iMovie needs another overhaul. It as made with the assumption that people want to make home movies, but that's 90s thinking. People want to make Youtube videos with flexible shapes (red circles and arrows), text, and overlays.
Could be amazing if they make iMovie works like Keynote were you can position anything were you want and use something like Magic Move to create basic animations.
You can add only one overlay though and the keyframe implementation is so bad that if you you need to change the time of a keyframe you have to remove it and create other.
No, but a movie can be made with a bunch of keyframes. You can create a keyframe, add the elements you want in the place you want, add other keyframe and move the elements to another place or transform them.
Something like Adobe Flash, but more simple.
I'm not saying they can use an interface made of slides. I'm saying if they want to make an app easy for amateurs, they can make the elements like text, image overlays and PIP easy to manipulate and more flexible like Keynote elements and Keynote animations.
Yes. In 2005 it was my go-to "make a quick edit" to something software. Not just video, but quick audio editing too. You could do so much with it quickly. Convert audio files into different formats, easily create slideshows in minutes and burn them to a DVD just as fast. Super simple and precise video editing. I used it in conjunction with photoshop to make super fast high quality animated gifs from video clips. It was so useful. I used it every day. Then my old laptop died and I had to upgrade. The newer iMovie became too cumbersome. It was as if they overthought it; To try and make it easy for idiots to use they reduced its versatility. Now when I want to do something fast and simple, I go to Adobe Premiere because they have maintained a basic logic in their interface and functionality. If I want to do a quick audio edit, I use Audacity and/or Garageband. So good job Apple... your efforts have driven me away from a single versatile piece of software.
Well, it's good for basic things, but it's pretty limited. You can't position titles were you want, you can't put more than one title (and PIP) at the same time and you can't control the titles fading duration.
It's the new mac that you have to assemble yourself.
Courage.
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vhite ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 18:28:46 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't read what you are trying to say but that effect moving the text is fucking stupid if you ask me.
pistonet ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:17:05 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I've had to deal with this before, and then the deal with not being able to change the font or TYPE LOWERCASE in some of the title templates just adds to my fury. Why the hell would you do that?!
wpm ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 20:10:34 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty dumb, but so is using a "title" to write a goddamn essay.
It's a "title" for a movie, Apple probably assumes that most people aren't going to be using more than 5 or 10 words in their titles.
๐๏ธ danman_d ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:29:58 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's still an issue with a 2-word title, if you size the text to take up most of the frame at the beginning of the animation (as most people would do).
You have to make the title a little smaller and break the lines manually (option+return). That way the title still have room to expand.
I'm not defending Apple, just explaining how to work around this.
SolidKGB ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:05:33 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a damn shame that Apple has given the finger to its creative market. iMovie while always an entry level editing software was what I learned on in middle school. I am now a freelance video editor and get paid good money doing it. I used to use final cut around 2007 and it was good. Now it's iMovie deluxe for $299. I wish Apple cared about its creative customers like it did 10 years ago.
I don't know much about video editing software, but isn't Final Cut pretty much the industry standard?
edit: sorry I asked a question, downvoters
smushkan ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:06:19 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Final Cut lost quite a bit favour when they made massive changes between FCP7 and FCPX, both in workflow requirements and how the software worked under the hood. The changes were so extreme that FCP7 projects are not natively usable in FCPX and instead have to be converted through intermediate formats.
Can't remember the exact figures, but a survey in one of the industry mags we got last week or the week before puts the order something like this for film and broadcast most popular at the top:
Media Composer
Adobe Premiere
Final Cut X
Final Cut 7 (loads of places just stuck with it)
Resolve
I can't remeber the exact figures, but I do seem to recall noting that Premiere had significantly more share than FCPX and FCP7 combined.
They used data from this report which unfortunately can't be viewed for free.
That's from memory though, we get so many mags I can't even remember which one did the survey.
_dpk ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:50:49 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the problems with X were mostly fixed within a year. The problem was it was just a mismanaged launch โ even the leading engineers knew it was a bad idea to launchX and deprecate 7 at the same time but Apple's marketig didn't want it to look like a half-arsed transition. Instead they made it look like a blundering piece of lunacy.
wpm ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:04:01 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it's clawing its way back but a lack of proper Pro level Macs isn't helping them either.
I went from iMovie to Final Cut Express 3.5 in 2006. Recently upgraded to Final Cut Pro X (current edition). It feels more like iMovie with slightly more features than FCE from 10 years ago. It's easier to imagine my grandma using it than a professional editor. It's got Apple's style with Windows 7 intuition. I really do not enjoy it.
Holy fuck. AVID is still around? I played with a pirated version of that back in the late 90's. Is AVID like Quark is now days? Like, still there and still powerful but nobody uses it because theres better shit out there?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:00 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, Avid is the predominate editing software for feature films and television.
4nonymo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:59:34 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the most "industry standard" software right now is Adobe Premier. Final Cut is probably more common to non-professionals since it's an Apple product, but it's barely used by professionals in the industry anymore.
Yes!!! I made a really quick slideshow type iMovie last year for an assembly and I must have retyped and deleted/added my slide that used expand like 10 times. I could not figure out why it was normal in the editing form and then when I would play through it would move. All the other slides were in expand as well but I guess they were short enough so they didn't do it. So annoying. Also dumb from my perspective but in my stressy state I could not solve the problem.
Trevj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:45 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember WAY back when, there was a bug where if you had the font curlz mt installed, the imovie UI would use it for everything. Now that was terrible fabulous.
nautsfw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:10 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"iMovie's "Expand" title reflows the text during the animation, which is pretty fucking stupid if you ask me."
For those of you who (like me) struggled to even read this mess.
I've been staring at it for a whole minute and i could never get to finish the sentence completely in one read.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:16 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is the text2speech thing a part of iMovie too?
All those shitty YT videos that have that kind of fidgetty text tend to be narrated by a robot too.
jtvjan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:47 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, but having a natural sounding robot voice is very easy on Mac. Make a text file containing all your text, call it text.txt and save it in your home directory. Open Terminal and type say -f text.txt -o text.aiff. An .aiff file will appear in your home directory containing the text spoken in your systemโs default voice. Type say -v ? to get a list of installed voices, and use say -v "Name" -f text.txt -o text.aiff to use a specific voice.
nakkh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:06 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tim Cook is back at it again. Steve Jobs is killing himself in his grave right now. He isn't dead enough.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:32 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a bug. It's a Feature !
kelloggj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:49 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was the main video guy at my high school, but to make it "fair" we let me do a video and someone else in our leadership class got the chance to make one. This girl in my class made a slideshow with this as her title system for every single subtitle, and she thought the changes were cool. She was an idiot.
Can't tell if you just don't know how to use the title maker or not.
I work on premiere and if I just type in the title, it'll look like that, but if I go into it and change a bunch of settings, then it looks like what you see on tv and movies.
๐๏ธ danman_d ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:46:49 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know "how to use it," in that I can also make it look correct by adding manual line breaks and fiddling with a bunch of settings. The point is that it's software made to be used by amateurs, and the default settings create terrible results. As a programmer of >10 years, it's clear to me this never would have been an issue if more care had gone into building it the right way in the first place.
iMovie was made to quickly make videos like windows movie maker.
But the second purpose is to introduce you to Final Cut Pro. Since it's "final cut lite" it's just like adobe premiere elements and photoshop to photoshop elements, Gimp, or any beginner software.
It's doing it's job exactly like it's suppose to. The titles are on par with keynote and PowerPoint.
I don't know what your complaining about, download presets or templates if it's bugging you that much.
+1 - There was a free demo that came with Windows 95. You had to buy the full version. There was also a Nickelodeon version, I didn't have that one unfortunately but a friend of mine did. Also, there was this creepy as fuck commercial for it. Honestly, ...
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I don't use iMovie and correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this feature is intended for animation, but moreso for easier resizing as a static text box? Otherwise this is a really dumb feature
Is Apple doing anything new and exciting at all? They still seem entirely focused on the iPhone, a product that was launched 10 years ago. Their professional computers are seriously lagging behind competition and their software division, for all we know, could be an abandoned building filled with cobwebs and spiders.
I haven't been impressed by Apple in a really long time and that makes me think Apple is approaching its age of decline.
Look at the airpods. The apple watch. The new iMac Pro. Theyโre doing just fine
Nodeemus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:39 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, I feel like they're putting their effort in the wrong areas. Garage band for mobile is incredible and unparalleled in mobile DAWs, I would love to see more support for that and iMovie mobile as well.
apple computers make a fraction of what apple phones do. apple knows what it's doing.
right now the only reason i think apple machines exist are to give developers the ability to make apple software(in a wishy washy, apple doesn't really care about how much time you took to make your shitty app kinda way)
on the other hand windows 10 gets more and more futuristic with every update. bash on linux on windows is really interesting
MNVapes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:40 on September 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
which is bs because I learned computers and Basic on an apple IIe and the IIgs was my first color computing experience and Arkanoid on the IIgs was my first truly addictive pc gaming experience.
I want early 90s Apple back.
In my opinion apple stopped making exclusively cool stuff right around the time the first iMacs dropped and the MacBook was the last cool product they had but they've killed that too.
give up mate, steve jobs is dead and the bottomline is about mobiles right now.
however it isn't all bad. samsung's dex platform is definitely going to be copied by other people - the more powerful mobile cores get the more inevitable it seems. intel is also trending downwards with their processor sizes and you can get a fairly powerful laptop cpu for cheap
the next gen(i mean 5 years onwards) will be very exciting coz we will either see idevices cement their hold over the market or a new leader(probably intel) lead the charge into portable mobile like computers that are actually capable of doing everything a computer should be able to do and everything a mobile should be able to do
MNVapes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:13 on September 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just saddened by it all. I was an absolute apple evangelist now I literally own nothing apple because you really don't have to look very hard to find a clearly superior product.
Everyone touts the iPhone as being better than everything else but at the same time an iphone doesn't do half of the things a comparably priced android does.
Yes the battery life is better but that's because it's not analyzing my usage patterns and anticipating my every want and need the way an android device does.
I can't ever say hey siri take me to work and have the device actually navigate me to my work accurately while also recommending accurate detours to avoid traffic and stop for my caffeine fix.
I've literally never even manually entered an address into my phone because the voice recognition and machine learning algorithms are that good.
Basically Google is now Apple on the software side of things and unfortunately no one has fulfilled their role on the hardware side of things...
Why the fuck would you write a paragraph in that expanding text? Of course itโs going to not work as expected. Itโs called a โtitleโ for a reason. Itโs meant for one line with maybe one or two words.
Well, it has one of two choices in that situation. It can let the text scroll off screen or wrap. Both bad and in the end it's the user's fault for putting the software in a position to have to choose one.
But since it's made for baseline, completely computer illiterate people it's making the assumption that you just might not even know enough to even recognize that your text pushing past title safe is a problem. Let alone what's causing it or how to fix it.
๐๏ธ danman_d ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:31:55 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or it could wrap the text at the beginning of the animation based on how much space will be available at the end of the animation. This is the sane choice. Blaming it on the user because "how dare they want multi-line title cards?!" is silly IMHO.
So what happens if the card has enough text that it's tiny when it's starts and the ends are cut off by the time it's enlarged? I guess you could have a character limit but then you have to factor in the details of the typeface and now changing the size of the font can force you to edit out a portion of the title's characters.
That's not so bad if you have some idea of what you're doing but the problem is that design decisions about iMovie were probably made with the computer illiterates who has no idea what they're doing in mind. The uncle who wants to throw some things together and have it play back on his iMac when his nephew comes over is who they wrote it for. That person clicks buttons without reading them or remembering that they did it, which is why programs like iMovie are short on options. So Uncle Dave can fumble for an hour, click the play button, and have his text legible the first time because you know it didn't occur to him to check his work.
I mean, we're talking about a demographic that generally knows so little about what they're doing that they couldn't even do file management without a good amount of hand holding.
I'm not arguing that this is a great solution, just that all the solutions I've seen here will either give you as bad a graphical result (arguably) or will confuse who the software was written for in the first place.
Text expanding off screen isn't even necessarily a problem, but readjusting constantly is never good.
paraffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:45 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The problem is that the reflow is far more visually disruptive and should never ever happen for any reason, whereas small text may just be mildly uncomfortable in rare edge cases. No reason you need to push text off screen either, there are plenty of knobs to tweak (expansion rate and min/max element size, for example)
But, logic for reflow in expand animations simply shouldn't exist. It is always very visually distracting.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 21:14:38 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Expand" isn't for your wall of text, dumbass. Anyone who animates a wall of text that is meant to be read should have their mouse hand removed.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:26:21 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:31:50 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't animate the title then, dumbfuck. Design is about making appropriate choices to communicate effectively, not just slapping effects on things and expecting it to work.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 20:21:40 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:55:26 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, they are consistently the leader by far in performance, but ok.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:29 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:38:46 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every single benchmark used. Lolololol
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:09 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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exjr_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:55 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uhmm the Galaxy s8 has a 1440p resolution, not 4K. And it's not even used by default, it's 1080p and you have to change it in the settings. Also, iPhones are usually amazing in performance, it usually takes Samsung not one but TWO generations of phones to catch on (this "record" has been like this since the iPhone 5s, you can check it by yourself). By the way, I'm an Android user, but Jesus, some Android fans are quite annoying.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:44:37 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The point is more flexibility in post. There is no reason to deliver iPhone footage in 4K, there's barely any reason to do it for anything. We shoot everything 4K, and have never once delivered at over 1080. As for the screen, there's no pint in that high if a resolution in that small of a size, you'd certainly never tell the difference in a video, and it would be a huge drain on the battery and processor.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:15 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:35:47 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody said that about 1080, and you're comparing phones with tvs. Guess you can't stop a fanboy train.
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lankist ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 19:54:02 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was positive there were four slides of text at way too few frames to read.
I was so positive that I read all four halfway through before I realized.
IraDeLucis ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 20:06:43 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did this for several loops trying to figure out how any human could read that fast.
Prom3th3an ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:19 on August 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was pretty sure I was seeing "if" twice for a moment. And I suppose, depending on how the raster scan works on my phone and whether the video decoder waits for vsync, maybe I was.
polarbearsarereal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:06 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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fuckingsnowflakes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:30 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ehh...about that...
amnesiacrobat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:14 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It also made my eyes hurt.
frenchdonkeyze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:16:43 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah you were screwed way back before kek
PM_YOUR_NETFLIX_ACC ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 19:47:24 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
maybe stupid question but why do you have snoo next to your username?
Marowacked ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 19:55:11 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flair, I think.
reseph ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 21:20:00 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unlimited power.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:35:35 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unlimited innovation.
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swyx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:53 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
he's a bastard, thats just the naming convention in. the north
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:28 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a flair
Meior ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:51:24 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its courage.
qx2anon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:23:53 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But something something Pixar!
ThisIsntMyUsernameHi ยท 2959 points ยท Posted at 16:10:58 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was different slides at first. That's awful
pm_me_your_ide ยท 831 points ยท Posted at 17:54:28 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, spent way too long trying to read each frame only to realize they all said the same thing. Great concept. Terrible execution.
aspbergerinparadise ยท 705 points ยท Posted at 19:03:26 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's great execution.
he wanted you to feel that frustration, because that's exactly the frustration he felt that inspired him to make this gif.
pm_me_your_ide ยท 315 points ยท Posted at 19:18:19 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I meant terrible execution by the software to even allow something like this, not OP.
rotj ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 21:43:37 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's the great concept, then? Zooming in on text?
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 00:13:11 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah.
Original iMovie functionality is horrible concept, great execution.
OP is great concept, great execution.
thurstylark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:19:15 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/atbge
wakinguptooearly ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:14:30 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No no no no. It was a great execution by the OP. Can you not feel the frustration?
UltraSpecial ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 20:05:46 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To allow a short clip of many words? What? Is the program gonna stop you and say, "No. You can't do that. It's not allowed."? I'd be pretty upset if it did that.
EDIT: This was a simple mistake of me not understanding what reflow was. There's no need to call me retarded or anything like that. Jesus fuck.
SquidKid47 ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 20:10:43 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He meant that it's terrible for the software to reflow the text
theQman121 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:41:54 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gif about reflow of text. Comments about terrible reflow of text. And somehow you thought it was a comment about word count?
SadGhoster87 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:59:06 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Figure it the fuck out.
NotChamps ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:30:48 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant username
UltraSpecial ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:43 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are totally clever and original.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:14:05 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean terrible concept and great execution? What exactly was great about a concept where you cant read shit in the titles?
ImanShumpertplus ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:51:29 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it said Titties and I was bummed out
coolpeepz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:33 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew immediately what this was after feeling the same pain as all of you while working on stupid school projects. I spent so mush time finding the perfect don't size so that it would fill the screen but not do this shit.
4kVHS ยท 269 points ยท Posted at 17:11:52 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does it still do it if you set a static font size like 72?
๐๏ธ danman_d ยท 183 points ยท Posted at 19:12:52 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. -_-
BoogsterSU2 ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 20:03:59 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See? This is why you should stick with Final Cut/Motion instead.
iPundemic ยท 127 points ยท Posted at 20:32:29 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it's only 400 bucks!
LEGS__AKIMBO ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 20:42:44 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Motion is ยฃ30...
tony_orlando ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:57:41 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DaVinci Resolve lite is free
IDIFTLSRSLY ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:52:38 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blender is free and arguably has more features than any of those other ones.
ratocx ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:23:50 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More, but not all of the same. Workflow also matters.
Spekular ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:25:16 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm oddly attached to the VSE, but it's got lots of annoyances:
That said, I like it quite a bit anyway.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:47:50 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:34 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are certain ways around that.
Anon47261448726 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:49 on January 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Pirate it.
tom_bacon ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:34:14 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
jtvjan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:19 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are more expensive, but still better. Also, why does Premiere exist if After Effects does everything it does and more.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:46:00 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it doesn't, not even close. Premiere is an NLE, AE is layer based compositing software. Have you ever used either?
BoogsterSU2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:44 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I sadly use AE as a primary video editor. Close enough?
tom_bacon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:05:35 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While technically possible, any editing functionality you're using in AE would take a fraction of the time in Premiere.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:38:04 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iMovie would be a hundred times better. Why don't you just use resolve?
theon502 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:38:00 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ahem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY
youtubefactsbot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:23 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
bot info
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:34:06 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always wondered this.
Bionic_Bromando ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:39:28 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's terrible for actually editing things? Like I literally couldn't imagine a worse experience for editing.
Kwpolska ยท 660 points ยท Posted at 18:30:34 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs iMovie, a free toy. A big TV channel over here uses a โtyping letter by letterโ effect for viewer comments sometimes. And they reflow text on-the-fly. So professional.
RichB93 ยท 387 points ยท Posted at 20:34:54 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, for a freebie it's actually pretty damned good.
PerfectionismTech ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 01:25:40 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Lots of people here trying to shit on iMovie but it's actually rather impressive for a free editor. You can push it pretty far if you know what you're doing.
AlGoreBestGore ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 10:08:44 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, you can push MS Paint pretty far if you know what you're doing.
KMKtwo-four ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:44:07 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would still rather use it than Sony Vegas.
Rubix89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:31:03 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is Vegas still around? It seemed to have just faded away, even more so than FCP7.
Jalmorei ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:41:03 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vegas was bought by this German company, I think. I have no idea why, since they had their own software that was actually much better.
KrabbHD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:39 on August 31, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know but I still use it.
JELLYFISH_FISTER ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 21:19:50 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
only for the most basic of editing
th1341 ยท 341 points ยท Posted at 21:32:02 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs free
rip10 ยท 177 points ยท Posted at 21:45:59 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So are half smoked cigarette butts
Jyuconcepts ยท 115 points ยท Posted at 21:58:38 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a great comparison. Although in this case, more like a barely-lit cigarette as opposed to a butt. iMovie still fulfills its role for an amateur videographer.
dedicated2fitness ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 22:25:39 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
with a 1300 dollar laptop?
Clockwork_Octopus ยท 190 points ยท Posted at 22:37:36 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amateurโ poor
Jyuconcepts ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 22:44:22 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you grossly underestimate how much funding and work is necessary to create and maintain amazing editing software like Premier.
Plus, not everyone who buys a mac is into video editing. Having pricey software incorporated into the device on the off chance that they like videography seems pointless if you ask me.
And, like I said, iMovie is a great application anyway. Not many people realize just how much you can do with it, even if it's behind a couple of lists. And when I say "amateur" I mean anybody who doesn't create videos for a living; people who make vids for fun.
aa93 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:50:42 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In 7th grade I made an awesome "documentary" on Bioterrorism using iMovie on my Dad's G5. It has its place.
shook_one ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:17:43 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what are you trying to say here? That only rich, professional video editors should spend a whopping 1300 bucks on a laptop?
chewbaccascousinsbro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:28:06 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would say that most true Pro video editors aren't using a laptop as their primary editing workstation. Unless they like running out of disk space and waiting forever for exports/renders.
show_me_ur_fave_rock ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:29:21 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think people buy macbooks specifically for the purpose of using iMovie. That's like getting mad at somebody with a gaming PC for using Paint instead of buying Creative Cloud.
FarhanAxiq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:35 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
whoniversereview ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:15 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$500 desktop.
Shit, $100 laptop if you're not afraid of used things.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:33 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Bionic_Bromando ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:36:57 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah man you need a Chinese supercomputing cluster to do proper video work, anything else is amateur hour.
TeoIzAwezome ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:35:44 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did 4K renders on my Macbook Air 2013 for a while with Blender.
Shuddup.
Also Ryzen 7.
Now shuddup.
Edit: Check your facts as well foolish human. https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CC-2015-Multi-Core-Performance-Update1-806/
Strottman ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:58:41 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So is Davinci Resolve and Hitfilm Express.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:18:38 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You need a decent GPU to touch that program though as well as some good ram. It's out of reach for most people who just want to make a movie of their vacation. Lightworks is a decent alternative but your limited to 720p unless you pay.
MrTX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:50 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just finished using it to edit a music video and it ran pretty damn smooth on my 2013 macbook pro. As long as you use it's optimize media function and proxies, then it gave me a full 24fps in playback and rendered a 3 minute music video with some pretty heavy effects in about 9 minutes. I can live with that.
th1341 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:45:14 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit I canโt figure Davinci resolve out. I personally Adobe products but iMovie is really good for being free
Phyltre ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:08:44 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're awfully verbose for an Adobe products. Which ones are you?
th1341 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:14 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use After Effects most of the time, but I use premier, and photoshop as well
Edit: I donโt do to much with it. I like to play around with everything. I know a little bit of a lot of programming languages, I like photography, videography, graphic design, web development. You name it, Iโve probably tried it. Iโm not claiming to be a genius. But I fly racing drone and when I need to edit a video for YouTube, my choice is Adobe at the moment. Not an expert.
mortiphago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:40 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B-but
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:59 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
worth every penny
shwhjw ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:31:34 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Free after you pay an extortionate amount for the OS...
th1341 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:10:24 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The OS is free. But yes. Hardware is very expensive. I prefer to do software development on a Mac than windows or Linux though. Not sure why. So I have one already. I sure as hell wouldnโt buy a Mac just for iMovie. Donโt get me wrong
FarhanAxiq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:18 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least they put some effort to give pretty good free software. cough movie maker cough
JELLYFISH_FISTER ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:46 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my opinion is that they intentionally make it bland and featureless in the hopes of motivating you to buy Final Cut
TeoIzAwezome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:32 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ahem Hitfilm Express 2017 - Avid Media Composer | First ahem
Oh sorry, dunno what got into me.
MrTX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:30 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Davinci Resolve and it's companion VFX program Fusion 9 are both free and packed to shit with features. I just finished my first music video edit and it was legit. The color grading is magical.
Jman88s ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 20:12:15 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Windows Movie Maker >
Nodeemus ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:35:42 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there an app for it?
mortiphago ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:47:01 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get your Windows Movie Maker 3d in the Windows App Store today!1!1
DestructionSphere ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:42:55 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You joke, but they actually had that in the 90s.
jyetie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:54:12 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap I would have loved that as a kid! Did you have to buy it or something?
DestructionSphere ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:44:05 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a free demo that came with Windows 95. You had to buy the full version. There was also a Nickelodeon version, I didn't have that one unfortunately but a friend of mine did.
Also, there was this creepy as fuck commercial for it.
Honestly, looking back it was probably pretty shitty, but I absolutely loved it as a kid. I'd love to get it running again somehow.
Moath ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:32:12 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should check it on YouTube. It basically did the resident evil and final fantasy pre rendered background thing and you can place actors in the scenes and have them perform ready made animations. Many hours spent on that thing.
mortiphago ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:51:03 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I'll be damned
Deceptichum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:50 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So many memories of this amazing program.
DankeyKang11 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:21:13 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Adobe Premiere Pro
Jman88s ยท 125 points ยท Posted at 20:48:55 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MAKING EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL FRAME IN MICROSOFT POWERPOINT AND RECORDING IT AS A SLIDE SHOW >
DankeyKang11 ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 20:54:46 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MAKING EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL FRAME IN MICROSOFT PAINT, TAKING PICTURES WITH THE FRONT FACING CAMERA OF A TOSHIBA LAPTOP, AND SCREEN RECORDING IT AS A SLIDESHOW >
PebblesPotatoes ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:26:38 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taking a screenshot 60 times a second and pasting it into a powerpoint
voxanimus ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:02:43 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
then pressing the right arrow key really fast
mirhagk ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:12:16 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No just really fast automatic slides. Don't forget to turn on random animations though
thecloudsystem ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:57:25 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
H4H4H4
Sinful_Prayers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:56 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone make this an expanding mind meme
NoBreadsticks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:26 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is already this one, which is kinda similar
Type_DXL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:57:59 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to make video games in powerpoint so this hurt.
AlexanderBeta213 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:07 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Using hyperlinks?
Type_DXL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:32 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah lol. It was hundreds of slides long and took about ten minutes to load on my old Dell Dimension.
AlexanderBeta213 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:56:40 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahah, i did the same thing with my old iPad 1, i then โreleasedโ the โemojis expansionโ, with all types of characters...
I had time back then... and liked to waste it ahah!
Hurricane_32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:12 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I made a lot of frame-by-frame powerpoint animations, and then exported as individual images, and join them back in Windows Movie Maker into a video.
I'm serious.
ChibiHuynH ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:56:28 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recording on film, splicing, and using optical printers >
awesomemanftw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:58:04 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not exactly free
wolffangz11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:22 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We should make some movies
MCManuelLP ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:36:03 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just use kdenlive on Linux, oh did I mention that you should use Linux?
dudeAwEsome101 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:11:35 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You haven't mentioned it enough. Don't forget to compile your kernel.
Kwpolska ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:21:46 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back when I tried it a year or two ago, it couldnโt even do a basic crossfade. I mean, the effect was here, but using it put black frames in my video.
quickscoperdoge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:54 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh please don't remind me
SteampunkBorg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:39:08 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Windows Movie Maker was also free and doesn't do that crap.
The Photos app is free, includes a Video Editor and also doesn't do that crap.
I would have expected better from a Company Marketing towards Designers and the like.
Kwpolska ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:37 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whereโs the video editor in Photos? I can only see stuff to make slideshows out of photos.
SteampunkBorg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:23:20 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It works with Videos as well. It is extremely Basic, but what is there works.
Kwpolska ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:20:05 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of things in iMovie work as wellโฆ does the Photos.app thing even support adding titles? How does it look?
SteampunkBorg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:10 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It does Support titles, and they look fine, at least in my opinion.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:02:19 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, if you want pro, go with Avid or Final Cut Pro.
skiskate ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:41:14 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Final Cut Pro is trash.
Avid or Premiere Pro is the way to go.
falcon5768 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:14:46 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This blows my mind cause there was a good 15 years there where FCP was the DE FACTO STANDARD for digital editing. Premiere was absolutely trash and Avid was good but expensive as shit
skiskate ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:16:23 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Final Cut Pro went to absolute trash after 7.
God know why Apple thought it would be a good idea to appeal to the "average" consumer with professional grade editing software.
Like replacing the render/export menu with "share".
Fucking SHARE?
What were they thinking? เฒ _เฒ
shook_one ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:19:55 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Other than being named something different, how did this rename affect your workflow?
falcon5768 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:27 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I know I was a Xsan administrator for a while for a companies TV production group. After Apple abandoned the Xserve, and went to shit with FCP 8 we moved completely to Premiere. I also worked for Apple in higher education sales in the early 2000's when we were pushing to colleges to switch to Apple for a significantly cheaper price over Avid which was still mostly a hardware solution. It's just shocking how quickly all that inroads crashed down from 3-4 truly boneheaded moves.
Rubix89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:53 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now Premiere has made great advances in recent years and actually has some credibility behind it. AVID is still the industry standard but I kind of feel their innovation has stagnated over the years. It's real hook is the reliability.
PerfectionismTech ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:12:19 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use Final Cut Pro and no, it's not trash.
Rubix89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:33:58 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FCP is kind of like advanced iMovie. The UI is just ugly and counterintuitive if you learned in AVID or Premiere first. But if you're coming directly from iMovie to FCP then it's a great step up.
Although I think AVID is still really ugly in its own right anyways.
PerfectionismTech ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:24 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think any UI is going to seem counterintuitive if you have come from a different program with a different philosophy.
Zagorath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:08 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Find Cut Pro is leaps and bounds better than the others for smaller projects like short films, advertising, online content, etc. It's also, obviously, much better for the prosumer market than any of its competitors. None of them can even touch it in that market.
It's also improved a fuckload since the initial release of X. Most of the criticisms I've seen levied at it were valid then, but are not now. People just haven't updated their opinion in about 5 years (10.0.6 being the version that brought the last of the most common criticisms).
tdRftw ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:12:18 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No love for Vegas pro?
skiskate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:13:33 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vegas has never really had any industry use.
Nowhere near as much as Avid or Premiere (and Final Cut years ago)
tdRftw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:22:19 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
are we talking about industry use or enthusiast video makers? I highly doubt anyone in this comment chain is in the "industry"
skiskate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:25:18 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Industry
I'm an Editor/DIT but i'm still college student.
This is all information from my professors who have worked (and are still currently working) in the industry for years.
Avid is still the industry standard, but Premiere is quickly catching up.
Rubix89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:50 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank God. I learned AVID first and now it feels like a chore to use in comparison to Premiere.
Rubix89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:19 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in the "industry" and I've never seen any serious post house or studio use Vegas.
But I do remember being a part of the AMV scene back in the day and Vegas was all the rage for a lot of young editors. Starting out it had some great capabilities back then but it realistically just can't cut it like the other mentioned programs.
WhoThrewPoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:55 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But don't you have to pay for it nowadays? They started charging like $15 for this shit
Kwpolska ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:16:02 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs completely free as of April. It used to be free with every new Mac for a few years now โ so pretty much nobody paid for it.
Then again, even if it did cost $15, itโs free compared to Final Cut Pro ($300) or other pro editing apps.
anti-gif-bot ยท 327 points ยท Posted at 15:37:01 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
mp4 link
This mp4 version is 77.56% smaller than the gif (333 KB vs 1.45 MB).
Beep, I'm a bot. FAQ | author | source | v1.1.2
insakna ยท 184 points ยท Posted at 19:17:53 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why does this not always show up on gifs that like 2mb and not on the ones that are 50mb
anti-gif-bot ยท 348 points ยท Posted at 20:02:11 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because I'm banned in subs where most gifs get posted.
Hurricane_32 ยท 162 points ยท Posted at 21:21:04 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is pretty stupid. This bot, unlike most on Reddit, is genuinely very useful!
I mean, do those subs at least have AutoMod do it automatically instead? It's not impossible...
anti-gif-bot ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 22:25:22 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. I'll reach out to those subs at some time and negotiate some rules such as minimum file size if they are willing to cooperate.
Jascraft22 ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 22:47:41 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woah, is this like the owner of the bot responding to comments on the bot? That's pretty good dedication!
blazetronic ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 23:36:45 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No man, the bot is self aware
anti-gif-bot ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 01:01:52 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, Skynet is learning from you little humans.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:42:40 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The natural language processing on this bot is really impressive...
haikubot-1911 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 07:47:48 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The natural language
Processing on this bot is
Really impressive...
ย
ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย - KrisjohnTrip
I'm a bot made by /u/Eight1911. I detect haiku.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:51:30 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bugger me.
luhem007 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:33:53 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They haven't invented a bot to bugger you... yet.
Sarcastic_Pharm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:25:59 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's wrong? Doesn't the first line have 6 syllables?
Even if, that's still a freaking awesome bot. Is there a library out there for syllable detection?
M_Onasi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:40:43 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It depends on if you pronounce natural like na-tur-al or like na-trul
Zowayix_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:43:42 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good bot
70astralaxe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:28:04 on September 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This bot's comedic timing is hilarious
Hlululu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:32:28 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't reduce my size from 220 lbs to 50 lbs. I know we humans are not packed efficiently, but my flesh tubes don't work properly otherwise.
NEVER_TELLING_LIES ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:25:12 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/botsrights
LMGN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:11 on September 25, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good bot.
JohnToegrass ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:47:35 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... what do you think?
yetanothercfcgrunt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:57:45 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think they mean as opposed to the account not actually being run by a bot at all.
It clearly is though, since it responded only ten seconds after this submission was made.
Jascraft22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:34:18 on August 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I got that it was the owner responding on the bot account, I don't know why I phrased it like that. I should have said it's cool that the author of the bot continues to reply to comments on the bot's stuff.
John_Yuki ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:52:21 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah the owner is responding. I do it a lot on my bot accounts too. When responding to people when they ask questions it's a lot easier to just stay on the account rather than switch to your main account every time you want to read and then respond to a message.
John_Yuki ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:06:17 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The automoderator code is very basic and can only do really simple things. Python is a much more powerful language to use, and can do everything the automoderator can and more. It would be a really neat feature if reddit allowed moderators to code the automoderator using a Python clone language rather than the language it uses currently, but limit things that would be too stressful on the servers.
SquidKid47 ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 20:11:17 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
good bot
Ed_ButteredToast ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:57:39 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good human
SquidKid47 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:15 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if someone makes a bot that replies "good human" to people who comment "good bot" and "bad human" to people who comment "bad bot"
Ed_ButteredToast ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:02:50 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/crazyideas
I like the way you think ๐
SquidKid47 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:04:26 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
good bot
Ed_ButteredToast ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:10:25 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good toast*
SquidKid47 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:13:26 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good catch
rested_green ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:24:54 on August 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good vibes.
Waveseeker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:20 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, these bots are getting smart
[deleted] ยท 101 points ยท Posted at 17:28:12 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good bot. Also can we just never use animated gifs again? Thank you.
Mutoid ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 18:23:08 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No
EDIT: ironic that my gif link gets converted into the gifv version automatically in RES
tachyonflux ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 19:00:43 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
<3 Metal Slug
thatwaffleskid ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:25:09 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Metal Slug had some of the best Pixel Art of all time.
Mutoid ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:44:19 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It makes the best Gifs Of All Time
Chernoobyl ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:15:50 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's best of all time of all time.
Mutoid ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:50:44 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BOAT OAT
ipaqmaster ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:56:57 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Transparent, short, an animation rather than a video
+metal slug
That's the correct use of a gif
Seaflame ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:09:03 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's wrong with gifs?
Hurricane_32 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:26:50 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
.gif images are slow-loading, they are usually small in resolution, crappy colors and framerates, and they take up huge ammounts of storage (which might be a problem for slow and/or capped connections.
.gifv (Imgur) or gfys (Gfycat) are much better in every single way.
ipaqmaster ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:58:00 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're fine for their purpose. Stuff like short animations (like the looping metal slug above) /loading buttons etc.
But dickheads put videos in them which the gif format is so not prepared for that the file is usually anywhere from 20mb to 200mb when stored in a gif.
So it's pretty annoying that apps and web browsers that suppose vuideo playback, aren't being offered a video option. But to be honest, if you're on a device they does NOT support anything but gif files, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DOWNLOAD SOME 100MB GIF? probably not either.
The fact they gfycat even allows you to view the original uploaded gif is stupid. Because that's what everyone began posting instead of video links like their site was designed for.
Them or imgur could easily read your User Agent (e.g. Firefox 3.5.0) and send you the video data instead for some automated optimization but no for some reason nobodies fucking doing that shit.
And now reddits on the upload train too, they said gifs will become videos but that never happened. And uploading videos to Reddit has never loaded slower!
God. Everyone's trying to be 'the guy' and they're all doing it wrong.
Seaflame ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:14 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh, I've never known there was much of a difference between those types. Thanks!
Windows10Geek ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:49:31 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GIF was designed decades ago for small pixel animations. It's a horrible format for video.
TheOldTubaroo ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:27:25 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As the bot demonstrates, an MP4 is smaller than the equivalent GIF. It also provides better quality when needed. There's just no real reason to keep using GIFs now.
b3k_spoon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:36 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, please! I second this motion.
SuperIceCreamCrash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:35:52 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently the big gifv push from a couple years ago has worn off.
Cassius40k ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:52:54 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish this would hook into mobile apps so I can get the smaller version before my flip view automatically loads the gif.
Mr12i ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:53 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The biggest reason I like this bot is that hosting companies throw out millions of used hard discs out yearly, which is catastrophic for the environment. Digital storage is a limited resource, and should be treated as such.
Werro_123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:50 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
good bot
WorryingSeepage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:16 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
good bot
Slippery_Farts ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:37 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good Bot
Nixinova ยท 190 points ยท Posted at 19:11:15 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is, it would've originally not done that, then someone coded it in. But why tho
Flynamic ยท 271 points ยท Posted at 19:48:37 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they just use a normal Cocoa text view and animate it by increasing the text box size instead of scaling the view. That would be standard functionality in the AppKit text system, and they forgot to turn it off.
ciano ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 19:51:52 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bingo.
freshwordsalad ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 21:25:30 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's
a bingo
.
czir1127 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:24:36 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just say bingo
c00liu5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:00:22 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bingo. How fun!
danatron1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:38:10 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bongo
DemIce ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:26:58 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't scale the view, though. If you scale the view, you also scale the letters. The idea of an expand is that you increase the letter-spacing (the space between letters beyond the kerning), but keep the letters the same size. That said.. yes, the text box size isn't keeping up with the expansion from the letter-spacing being increased. A silly mistake, to be sure.
Flynamic ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:41:10 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, yeah I noticed what the actual intended effect was only after writing my comment but left it there because it's kinda semi accurate. Text in video editing should only act like UI text views during editing and not during preview/rendering.
WillDrawYouNaked ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:13:07 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not necessarily, there could be many ways to program the same thing. Maybe they programmed it so that the font slowly gets larger and it tries to fit the text in the line on each frame rather than render the text once and expand it
DemIce ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:29:10 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The font doesn't get larger - the gap between letters gets larger. Depending on implementation, Flynamic probably is on the right path. If there's a text box (which would cause line wraps), and the expand effect increases letter-spacing, then that text box must keep up with the rate of expansion. If it doesn't, the text would naturally reflow. There's plenty of work-arounds, but this is definitely a bug that should be an easy fix.
nb4hnp ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 17:38:37 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent presentation of the problem, OP.
SinkTube ยท 729 points ยท Posted at 16:13:26 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
once again apple's keen eye for detail is put on display. good show, jolly good show
[deleted] ยท 208 points ยท Posted at 17:16:07 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost as good as the headphone jack.
[deleted] ยท 295 points ยท Posted at 17:34:55 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, that was a deliberate action to get people to buy their wireless airbuds. Still a massive dick move, but a deliberate one.
atyon ยท 164 points ยท Posted at 18:15:18 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing I found really stupid was calling it a "courageous" move.
Yeah, maybe people prefer bluetooth headphones these days, but the only courage you need for that change is the courage to piss off some of your costumers. And you shouldn't brag about that.
But everything's radical, magical and courageous with Apple. Especially when they are late to the party.
Can't wait to hear them talking about how they invented the seamless smartphone display.
broccoliKid ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 20:13:26 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's literally why they said it was courageous, because so many people would get pissed. And what do you know, people got pissed.
foxymcfox ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 20:17:19 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the thing I never got. Courage is doing something regardless of the consequences. They knew they'd anger people, people got angry, then people were outraged that Apple would call it courageous, WHILE they were doing the very thing that proved Apple right.
krispyKRAKEN ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 20:56:00 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just sitting here laughing at everyone's continued anger toward Apple after hearing that the Pixel 2 is losing its headphone jack.
Seems almost as if Apple saw what was coming and decided to do away with the jack first.
atyon ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:28:25 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They weren't first. And I'm not "angry". I think it was stupid.
ahouse101 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 22:11:08 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll never buy a phone without a headphone jack, I can't understand why a manufacturer would choose to remove it. It doesn't matter what major companies have decided to remove it, there will always be people who use the jack.
falcon5768 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:19:37 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There were people that would never buy audio gear with a 1/4 jack 30 years ago. Times chabge
ColdBallsTF2 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:13:04 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except those still have plenty of uses, even today. While bluetooth devices might be a favourable option for some, it still has plenty of downsides compared to the standard headphone jack.
You have to make sure two devices (your phone and your headphones) are charged, the audio quality often isn't great and your phone uses more battery because of bluetooth.
TheNinjaFennec ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:19:15 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't be opposed to a different audio port becoming the new standard if it was smaller, achieved equivalent or better quality, and was still stable. The problem is that bluetooth is only solving one of those problems, while creating more of its own. The audio quality is noticeably worse (and has a much lower ceiling for quality), keeping a charge now becomes an issue for something that people had never had to previously think about, and the only thing it allows the corporations behind the switch to do is gimp their own devices. Sure, phones without the 3.5mm can be engineered to be thinner, but along with that comes smaller and smaller batteries. Now not only do you have to charge your earbuds, but you have to charge your actual phone more often too. I realize that last point isn't the best argument, as it's essentially just arguing for (arguably) artificial limitations. But that's what's going to happen without that limitation in place. Bluetooth isn't really an improvement over 3.5mm at all, which is why people are upset about the slow shift. Times change, but they're supposed to change for the better.
AlexanderBeta213 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:40 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
About the charging phone fact: the iPhone 7 has an amazing battery life, like 24 hours, many people used it with low power mode for an entire week! So thatโs not really a problem.
I have the AirPods, and i found the sound quality the same as my old buds, but i would prefer hearing an expert about this.
BrownNote ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:28 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wut? The 1/4 jack is still super prevalent in audio.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:19:25 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh yeah i forgot the average apple customer works in audio
ahouse101 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:28:01 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to what? Migrating between different analog jacks is not the same as removing any analog option at all for wireless. I have no problem finding different phones that have a headphone jack, and most people I know agree, including my tech illiterate family members who are really bummed to have to switch off of iPhones they've been on for years.
I know in the long run, Apple will do fine if they decide to keep it off, but unlike other things Apple's killed off (e.g. flash), some people will be unwilling to give up a physical analog headphone jack. The headphone jack is the single most ubiquitous connector in technology right now, an international standard on devices from desktop computers to phones, with support for literally any device that can play analog audio. It's going nowhere soon, and it will always exist.
I love Bluetooth and use it often - I have Bluetooth headphones and a Bluetooth receiver for my main stereo system, but just like WiFi doesn't replace Ethernet entirely, Bluetooth (and equivalent systems) will never replace physical analog connections.
gsfgf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:32 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The iPhone comes with an adapter. I assume the Pixel will too
ahouse101 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:31:25 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An adapter is a clumsy solution when you can easily integrate those electronics directly into the phone. Why would I take a step backward? There are plenty of top of the line phones to choose from if you're willing to pick something non-Apple.
DaFlamingLink ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:50:09 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
#DongleLife
idkmyusernamesucks ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:53:00 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guessing you'll stop buying phones in the next few phones? Because all phones will eventually (very soon) stop offering headphone jacks.
You sound similar to the people who complained about removable batteries a few years ago.
ahouse101 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:22:42 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There will always be phones with a headphone jack - it's been a universal connector for literally decades and is still used on equipment across the technological spectrum. It's not even remotely comparable to removable batteries, which have entirely different benefits and no real standard. I won't buy an iPhone is they keep it removed (which is a shame, they're good phones), and I will switch off the Galaxy line if they remove it.
Rumors aside, I highly doubt many companies will follow suit - there isn't much of an advantage to removing the jack, it was a silly decision on Apple's part. Just like WiFi hasn't replaced (and won't replace) Ethernet, Bluetooth and equivalent systems will not replace physical analog jacks.
honda27 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:46:35 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Non-removable batteries are still complete horseshit. Not having a jack is also complete horseshit, and will remain so.
300400500 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:30:45 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Disagree if apple didn't have plans to remove it, I don't believe it would even be on the table to remove the headphone jack for at least a few more years while we wait for better Bluetooth or alternatives to it.
But OEMs follow Apple. Sometimes it makes sense, sometimes it's short sighted.
WTPanda ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:17:36 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apple didn't see anything coming. They just have such an avid fan base that those drones will buy anything Apple launches. They were just cashing in because they could and everyone else will follow suit.
SinkTube ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:41:49 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the thing is, apple was never in any danger. the outrage didnt hurt them and they knew it wouldnt. apple is acting like brave revolutionaries over a low-risk business decision
imbargo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:31:24 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a shitty definition of courageous. Someone smoking for a lifetime regardless of lung cancer is not "courageous". A person who shops themselves into credit card debt is not "courageous".
nermid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:57:12 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Under a strict reading, literally all actions are courageous under that definition.
atyon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:29:51 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you consider people mocking them for the "courage" thing and the people getting angry about the removal aren't necessarily the same people?
Redingold ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 19:43:18 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if people prefer wireless headphones, having a wired option is still a good thing. I've got some wireless headphones but for whatever reason my laptop can't connect to them. Fortunately, since my headphones have a 3.5mm connection too, I can just use a cable instead.
Musely ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 20:35:58 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I need a wired option because of my cochlear implant (I'm deaf and the CI helps me hear). I use an audio cable to connect my cochlear implant to whatever I'm playing audio with, be it my phone or the computer or my PS4 controller. The audio cable uses the headphone jack so...
For_TwinTea ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:46:07 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever company made your CI should be more courageous and make them Bluetooth compatible from now on /s
Musely ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:47:48 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They did but I don't like Bluetooth -- there's some audio issues with the bluetooth implementation in my cochlear implant. Funny enough, Cochlear announced a partnership with Apple for Cochlear 7 to be directly compatible with an iPhone. Feels bad when I'm rocking an Android phone and don't even want an iPhone.
For_TwinTea ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:56:05 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the info. Hopefully most Android phones keep the jack until Bluetooth is more reliable. It seems silly that technology like a CI would partner up with one tech company instead of continuing to make one implant that's compatible with all kinds of phones, audio jack and Bluetooth alike
gsfgf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:21:26 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The partnership is apparently just that it'll use W1. If that's correct, it'll still work with all phones but pair better with iPhones.
Smelly-Ghost ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:12:17 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The largest and most popular Android phone maker, Samsung, removed the headphone jack from their most recent flagship.It's looking like even Google is doing away with the headphone jack on their upcoming Pixel 2 phones.Edit: Not Samsung. I don't know what I was thinking of, I've even played around with the S8 so who knows.
For_TwinTea ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:14:57 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't the S8 the most recent Samsung flagship? That one has a headphone jack
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:33:02 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So use the included free adapter to use your cochlear implants
elephantnut ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:53:13 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then buy an Android phone with a 3.5mm jack. And you can get a microSD card too.
I think Apple's shown that the average consumer doesn't really care about the lack of headphone jack. And those who do have switched away from the iPhone.
I'm just mad that other Android manufacturers are following the decision. I don't get it - there was so much backlash, and a bunch of manufactures poked fun at it. And then went and did it themselves. :(
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:32:28 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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AlexanderBeta213 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:52 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but it still works with Android/Windows.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:25 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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AlexanderBeta213 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:10 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because they know that their products are better?
I donโt understand your question.
typecase ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:15:50 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So much this!
lasershurt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:27 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There still is a wired option.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:20:28 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can still use a cable without the headphone jack. Just use an adapter for the lighting port.
Next time if you have no idea what youre talking about please just keep your mouth shut because now youre just negatively influencing other sheep.
InterstellarIsBadass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:10 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah the lack of port aids the water resistant nature (my favorite feature) of my iPhone. I use it in the shower practically every night not worrying about that port that I never use getting water in it.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:52:22 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how all those waterproof smartphone with audio jacks managed...
InterstellarIsBadass ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:07:56 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They used a plug that screws into the hole similar to a lifeproof case. It's really lame if you don't care about that jack being there in the first place and it's efficiency wore out over time. Lifeproof cases suck too because you have to buy a new one when it wears out (only 6 months for mine). a solid surface with no jack at all holds up continuously.
txarum ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:26:56 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you know what people also prefer? cheaper phones. remove a component. and your device will both be cheaper and more reliable.
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:55:20 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
>talking about iphones
>"cheaper phones"
now this is comedy
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:33 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
everything is built with cost saving in mind. everything. if you think otherwise you are dumb
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:01:10 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and you're dumb if you think that translates to lower prices
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:36 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
of course it means lower prices. there are thousands of people selling smartphones. lowering prices means outcompeating them. this is not a monopoly. lower the prices, improve the product, or go bankrupt. pick one
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:06 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lmao, you have to be joking. apple doesnt have to lower prices to outcompete anyone, apple has a monopoly on iOS and the apple logo, and that's enough to keep people buying no matter what they do
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:05 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if that was true. why do they spend billions on developing the new Iphone every year? seems like a terrible business decision if you have a monopoly. are they just spending billions to improve mobile technology out of the goodwill of their hearts?
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:28:14 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
because having a monopoly doesnt mean much if it's on a product nobody wants?
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:33 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
then its not a monopoly. its quite literally the opposite of one
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:08 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
monopoly is about supply. how much demand there is is completely irrelevant
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:17:45 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but other people make smartphones. so you can't make a shitty expensive smartphone and sell it. they will buy something else. therefore they don't have a monopoly. you don't have a monopoly if other people can provide the same thing as you can. and lots of people can make just as good phones as a iphone
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:03 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the monopoly is on iOS, not smartphones. nobody other than apple can legally provide iOS
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:34 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thats not a monopoly. thats called selling a brand. having a monopoly means owning significantly of something there is a demand for
iOS is not a marked. it just happens to be a popular brand. smartphones is a marked. smartphones has a demand. you have to continue working on improving your product. or else other people will outsell you in that marked. and that means you can't just ignore cost and imagine everyone is going to buy your product.
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:41 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if you abstract enough you can say the same for phones. smartphones arent a market, they're just a kind of computer
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:19 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no that is not the same thing. there is not a need for ios. but there is a need for smartphones. that is a own marked. if suddenly apple where to build all smartphones they would have a monopoly on smartphones. ASUS could not come in and try to sell their laptops as a alternative to smartphones. because it is a different marked
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:07 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i agree, but tell that to the fanboys
but seriously there are a lot of people who depend on iOS. android is not a valid alternative to them
and samsung cant sell a galaxy as an alternative to an iphone, because it too is a different market. iOS/android is as different as smartphone/laptop to a lot of people
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:34 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the fact that a guy would never buy anything does not mean its a monopoly. if a guy can't buy anything else. then it is a monopoly.
the fact that only apple devices run Angry Birds 8k. does not mean that apple has a monopoly on devices that can run that app. because that app can be updated to other phones. if apple makes the only phones strong enough to run that app. then it is a monopoly. a monopoly on superior phones. but apple does not have that. and the marked on superior phones is not large enough to allow you to ramp up the prices. which is what you supposedly said they could.
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:57 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
then nothing is a monopoly. you can always buy something else
haha what? it's not a monopoly because it's theoretically possible for another device to exist that can do the same thing?
hardware specs isnt the only thing that can make a phone superior. the unique, proprietary software on it can be just as important. and the demand for that is more than enough to ramp up prices
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:36 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if you can buy something else, it is not a monopoly. good luck finding a alternative to copper
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:28 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iron. next challenge
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:40 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
please stop acting like a idiot. they are not even remotely similar. try making a electricity grid with iron. even if you somehow made a cable out of it you can not make a transformer. so you are pretty much stuck with light bulbs and heating.
what about microchips? electric motors? heat dispersion? anything that has electricity at all really.
there is no alternative to copper. which is why there are laws against having a monopoly on it. that is what it means to have a monopoly
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:24 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh, there are things you can only do with copper? hey look, it has something in common with iOS!
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:02 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but there is not a demand for iOS. there is a big demand copper. you can't have a monopoly on things without a demand.
there is not a demand for iOS. people choose to use iOS becouse it is a great system. thats not a monopoly. thats popularity. any task you can perform on a iOS phone can also be performed equally good on other devices.
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:52 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
do... do you know what demnd is?
unless those tasks involve apps/processes that arent available outside iOS
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:41 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
name one app on iOS that does not have a equally good alternative on android
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:36 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
anything meant to seamlessly interface with other apple products, for one
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:08 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you name one of them?
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:20 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
does android have anything on par with imessage? works seamlessly on phone, tablet, and desktop without pairing, and with SMS fallback?
i realize there are other messagers, but you did specify "equally good"
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:19 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Facebook Messenger does the exact same thing. it can even sync between your android phone and your ipad. sync between all your devices. not just some of them.
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:36 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
facebook messenger has SMS?
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:07 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:19 on August 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
even to people who didnt give facebook their number or dont have facebook at all?
txarum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:13 on August 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes
krispyKRAKEN ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:53:24 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I guess everyone in this thread hasn't heard that the Google Pixel 2 is rumored to have no headphone jack?
Thus making Apple's decision to be the first one to go in that direction possibly a little bit... dare I say?... Courageous? after all.
Ysmir_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:08:19 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can be courageous and stupid at the same time. Removing the headphone jack just forces people to spend more money and the price of phones isnt going to decrease because of it
atyon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:27:40 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't heard.
Either Apple is correct and headphone jacks are a relict of the past (at least in the high priced segment). Or it's not and the decision is courageous but stupid.
Removing obsolete ports just isn't courageous. Apple didn't brag about removing firewire, or floppy or optical disc drives. They just did it and didn't rub it in. And they weren't the first in removing either of these.
It's no big deal either way. I just felt about it like I felt about the car pool karaoke. It was a stupid way to announce it.
well___duh ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:29:16 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And if you go to /r/apple, they'll defend it saying Apple still sold millions of iPhone 7s and 7+s despite the loss of a headphone jack.
Except...there's no definite number for that.
Apple's Q4 2016/Q1 2017 numbers
Apple's Q2/Q3 2017 numbers
Although it says they've sold over 215M iPhones since the iPhone 7 was released, nowhere does it differentiate which phones were which. Of those 215M, it could've been a majority of non-iPhone 7s (Phone 6, 6S, and SE). Of course, it could also be a majority of iPhone 7s, but we'll never know. Apple never gives those details.
Me personally, I'm hoping a majority of those sales were not iPhone 7s, giving Apple a sign that people care more about the headphone jack than they thought. Especially when there was no engineering-related reason to remove it. Their official response during the keynote was they removed it for a bigger Taptic engine and battery. Except a bigger vibrator motor does not really improve the iOS experience by much (definitely not enough to warrant removing the headphone jack) and a bigger battery could've easily been done by just making the phone slightly thicker (there's no need for having super-slim phones, especially at the expense of smaller batteries).
The choice to remove the headphone jack was definitely a business decision, not an engineering one. Apple has been all about profit-making business decisions ever since Tim Cook got in charge, which makes sense given that's what he's best at (and probably why Steve Jobs wanted him to be CEO rather than someone with more of an engineering background than an business one).
atyon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:44:59 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't be surprised if the SE is flying from the shelves for a simple reason โ it's a lot cheaper. An iPhone 7 is 760โฌ, the SE costs 480โฌ.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the price of the SE is fine tuned to keep people with lower budgets on Team iOS. A solid Android phone is, let's say, 300โฌ. A big gap to the 7, but maybe an acceptable one to the SE.
nermid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:05:04 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially since it makes them so fragile that people buy third-party cases that make them thicker, anyway.
parkerSquare ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:30:30 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"costumers"? Made me laugh :)
-Badger2- ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:01:06 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's really what it comes down to.
If they had just said, "You know what, it's 2016. Fuck Wires." I think people would've respected it even if they don't agree.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:05:45 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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-Badger2- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:37 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's more of a MacBook problem than an iPhone one.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:51:44 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They did say that though.
OctopusButter ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:24:58 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it was courageous to sell a 300 dollar picture book
nonsensicalnarwhal ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 18:43:30 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this has been done to death...the book is not meant for normal consumers. and it's about in the same price range as other similar design books.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:12:28 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ccooffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:21 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apple pays more taxes than any other company in the world.
McBurger ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:38:59 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a deliberate action to fit a larger & longer-lasting battery.
If they wanted to force people to buy wireless earbuds, they wouldn't include a complimentary headphone jack adapter & set of wird headphones in each box.
awesomeshreyo ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 18:49:14 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The battery isn't that much larger, 1960mAh for the 7 Vs 1860mAh for the 6S.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:22:51 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the battery is outstanding though. 99% of the people in this thread who are bitching and complaining have no relevant experience with any apple products.
Hell, even 80+% of anybody who owns an iPhone has no fucking idea what it can do and how far the functionality reaches. We're just surrounded by clueless ignorant little dicks who simply have no idea just how ignorant they are yet they constantly feel the need to share their wrong opinions with the rest of us.
For example to anybody reading this who owns an iphone 6s or higher, you probably didnt know that you can use force touch to hard press down on the keyboard to turn the keyboard into a trackpad to position the cursor. If you did know that good for you but for you there were at least 10 people who didnt know.
It's little things like that which ad up a lot to the overal quality and experience of a product, but most people can just send some emails, browse facebook, and they barely know how to operate the camera (for example most people even dont know you can take pictures with the volume buttons)
I'm not trying to show off at all or anything i just like to press my point about how strong people's opinions are on products they know nearly nothing about
awesomeshreyo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:53:15 on August 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the same thing with android devices, if not more so - most people don't know how much you can customise any android device.
nanaIan ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:43:04 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They knew that requiring an adapter would piss everyone off, though. So people bought 7-specific headphones and bluetooth ones..
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:28 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Push those goalposts.
Hryggja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:43 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So which is it? They wanted to force people to buy AirPods, or the wanted to piss people off with the Lightning headphones? Because pissing people off typically isn't how companies attempt to improve sales.
nanaIan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:52:03 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing. Piss a person off using the adapter and then they will likely decide to buy AirPods or 7-specific headphones (that Apple still gets money from) since using the adapter was annoying.
Hryggja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:28 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does Apple make more money off the Lightning headphones than the 3.5 ones?
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:13 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
3.5mm is an open standard, apple doesnt make any money when you sell a 3.5mm headphone
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:46:02 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't it also allow for better waterproofing though?
Fritzed ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 18:18:37 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a claim that apple made, but it has been thoroughly debunked by the number of devices that have headphone jacks and waterproofing. Everyone always mentions the newer Galaxy phones and Sony Xperia's before that, but really there have been waterproof devices with headphone jacks for decades already even before that.
broccoliKid ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:11:46 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apple didn't claim that though. Their main goal was to get everyone to move to wireless headphones and removing the jack let them fit a better Taptic Engine next to the home button.
well___duh ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:31:58 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY. Apple has everything to benefit from more Lightning accessories being sold since they make a percentage off of it. Also the reason why they'll never switch iOS devices to USB-C. You're more likely to see a portless iOS device than one with a USB-C port.
krispyKRAKEN ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:59:13 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you please explain why Google Pixel 2 is doing away with the headphone jack as well? I doubt it's to sell more of their competitor devices.
elephantnut ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:58:49 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It might simplify the internal design, and save a tiny bit on the production of each phone.
Honestly though, I think the Pixel team just follows what Apple sets - there was an interview with one of the people who worked on the first Pixel, who said that the reason they didn't go thicker with more battery life was because Apple set the bar the thickness, or something like that.
I personally don't agree with those decisions, but the Pixel is pretty popular now, so what do I know.
well___duh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:36 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who knows. Google is definitely not in the position to be making such decisions given they sold at best 5 or 10 million Pixels, nowhere near iPhone/Galaxy numbers.
Then again, this is the same Google that seemingly has had the same person in charge of their manufacturing/distribution of phones the past 8 years or so because they never seem to ship more than a dozen phones at a time.
broccoliKid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:06 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hypothetically yes. But apple isn't pushing for lightning headphones and neither is any other manufacturer. All manufacturers including apple have more to gain from selling wireless headphones. Profits from lightning headphone accessories are just a drop in the bucket.
WildGalaxy ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 17:50:23 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Galaxy S7 and S8 are waterproof with headphone jacks, along with plenty of other phones. That sounds just like an excuse to me.
In fact, the S8 is more water resistant than the Iphone 7.
poor_decisions ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:29:10 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
honestly, i think it's some sort of agreement in the tech industry that wireless is going to be the next epoch in headphones.
sashir ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 19:55:10 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which means instead of mediocre low priced wired headphones that I buy because I have kids, I will soon be forced to buy really shitty sounding headphones at twice the price that have a poor battery life. I really hope not. Bluetooth means tracking yet another charger and another point of failure, as well as squeezing the margins, leading to worse quality for more money.
I need an ensure and a fucking nap so I can go yell at a cloud later.
SirRealist ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 22:15:11 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So much not true here. The battery life on my BeatsX are fantastic. And they charge in 5 mins for 2 hours of playback, full charge is about 30 or so minutes. They are not shitty sounding, they are not bass heavy like many assume. And they charge with the same lightning charger the phone uses.
Billyouxan ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:16:21 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're significantly more expensive than a wired one though, which is the biggest complaint.
Also, who wants to be tracking battery life on headphones? That sounds annoying as hell, no matter how efficient they are.
SirRealist ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:44 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree that they are more expensive. That said, there are high quality earbuds that are wired that are similar in price and quality.
As I mentioned before, I've used mine consistently since they were released and never had a battery issue. I ran out once, charged for 5 mins and I was ok for the remainder of the time I needed them.
Jamie_De_Curry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:09 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And as many other people have also mentioned before, the pros do not out-weigh the cons.
SirRealist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:56 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my opinion they do. And the countless others that have purchased them.
Jamie_De_Curry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:59:20 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good for you, making decisions and shit based on your own preferences. Don't expect other peoples needs to be the same as yours, especially when it comes to consumerism.
SirRealist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:12 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was replying to misinformation that the other guy posted. You came in and starting talking options and pros/cons. Go troll someone else.
Jamie_De_Curry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:03 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not trolling, you aren't required to reply to me. There are plenty of private chat rooms online, if you don't like how anyone on reddit can comment on what anyone else says, that's your problem.
sashir ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:01 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
....get off my lawn.
well___duh ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:37:18 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, sure. Eventually. When BT headphones last days/weeks on a single charge and/or able to charge to 80% within minutes. And when latency is negligible.
Those are the main two gripes for not using BT headphones right now. Not to mention possible multiple devices requesting access to the same BT headphones at the same time (i.e. you paired them with your phone and computer, and to prevent one from overtaking the other, you pretty much have to turn off BT on one of them). BT currently has way too many problems/inconveniences to fully replace wired headphones at the moment. Buying a device with no headphone jack is committing to that inconvenience.
It'd be like buying a car that feels slightly uncomfortable to sit in. Sure, it has all the bells and whistles, but you always have to find your comfort zone every time you sit in it. Every. Time.
gsfgf ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:53 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AirPods go a long way to address those issues. The headphones themselves last a pretty long time, and the case gives you several charges. Charging is still slow, but you can charge the case while using the headphones. And W1 makes pairing work a lot better. I haven't actually tried switching between devices though since I don't really use headphones with the computer.
pmmeyourpussyjuice ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:14:47 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope not. That means more batteries to keep charged next to my phone.
Jedidiah_924 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:49:06 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think so, the speakers and microphones are the hardest to "waterproof".
defoil ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:46:08 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shhttt don't give them ideas!
Hohenheim_of_Shadow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:19 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They put more holes there. The iPhone has fake speaker holes on the left side and the iPhone seven has twice as many as the previous gen. So no.
duckvimes_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:56 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it was an attempt to sell wireless headphones, they would've made more wireless headphones.
RiZZaH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:44 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really, they offered a solution. First guys that dropped a floppy drive also supplied a solution. People are just way too triggered about letting technology advance these days. If everyone keeps wanting more in smaller cases, stuff needs to change and replacing a huge space occupant like a 3.5mm jack is one of them.
TeoIzAwezome ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:39 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But they don't want more in smaller cases. Do you hear anyone with a modern smartphone complaining about how thick their phone is. I'd much rather have a thicker phone that doesn't break instantly, but then how will they make money on repairs.
TheKharybdis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:31:44 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What headphone jack?
lootedcorpse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:42 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it'll be fixed in the next update.
MyDearBrotherNumpsay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:55:02 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I literally know several people in that department. Maybe I should send this gif to them.
lootedcorpse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:42 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They've seen it
The_Adventurist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:23:21 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As far as their editing software goes, they've been dead to the editing world for years now. Some people really held out on FCP 7, hoping in vain that Apple would fix Final Cut and return as an industry leader, but nah, they left it fucked up and unusable and now nobody uses it. Everyone has mostly switched to Premiere or stayed on Avid.
perplex1 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:48:26 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It isn't dead. And initially, yes pro-editors were hesitant to use it. However; FCPX is widely used amongst editors today -- small filmmakers have exploded on the scene as the barrier to entry for videography and filmmaking shrinks and they are using the shit out of it. And if you haven't noticed, with the release of FCPX 10.3, its regarded as apple's comeback back into the editing world. Quite a huge improvement.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:19 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:51:43 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FCPX is stupid fast. I don't use it personally but it's far from dead.
MOIST_MAN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:34 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok don't knock on FCP 9. Also FCPx has found its niche in kind of a new generation of "filmmakers" who work primarily on YouTube and it suits their needs perfectly. Maybe it's not really living up to the "pro" name but people have made millions with FCPx
KMKtwo-four ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:54:53 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apple is betting on future content creation being driven less by professionals and more by the average YouTuber. Apple "Pro" products haven't been targeted at professionals since they turned their workstation into a trashcan.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:47:32 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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notwhereyouare ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:53 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what exactly does this have to do with titles in imovie?
_dpk ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 19:47:30 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iMovie has really gone downhill in recent years. In one update they removed the ability to have text titles that didn't have any transition (fading or sliding or whatever) when starting and ending, condemning iMovie edits to eternal amateur appearance in much the same way the zoom function on handycams made all home videos look identically crap.
xavierthegreat ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:42:48 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iMovie sucks lately.. it used to be a lot better!
osteofight ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 21:50:59 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iMovie needs another overhaul. It as made with the assumption that people want to make home movies, but that's 90s thinking. People want to make Youtube videos with flexible shapes (red circles and arrows), text, and overlays.
luke_in_the_sky ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:27:09 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could be amazing if they make iMovie works like Keynote were you can position anything were you want and use something like Magic Move to create basic animations.
PerfectionismTech ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:14:51 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can easily add an image file as an overlay and add keyframes in iMovie.
luke_in_the_sky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:17 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can add only one overlay though and the keyframe implementation is so bad that if you you need to change the time of a keyframe you have to remove it and create other.
osteofight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:50 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That type of editing would be great. A movie is just a bunch of slides in a row, right?
luke_in_the_sky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:02:40 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, but a movie can be made with a bunch of keyframes. You can create a keyframe, add the elements you want in the place you want, add other keyframe and move the elements to another place or transform them.
Something like Adobe Flash, but more simple.
I'm not saying they can use an interface made of slides. I'm saying if they want to make an app easy for amateurs, they can make the elements like text, image overlays and PIP easy to manipulate and more flexible like Keynote elements and Keynote animations.
correcticallytech ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:41:18 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. In 2005 it was my go-to "make a quick edit" to something software. Not just video, but quick audio editing too. You could do so much with it quickly. Convert audio files into different formats, easily create slideshows in minutes and burn them to a DVD just as fast. Super simple and precise video editing. I used it in conjunction with photoshop to make super fast high quality animated gifs from video clips. It was so useful. I used it every day. Then my old laptop died and I had to upgrade. The newer iMovie became too cumbersome. It was as if they overthought it; To try and make it easy for idiots to use they reduced its versatility. Now when I want to do something fast and simple, I go to Adobe Premiere because they have maintained a basic logic in their interface and functionality. If I want to do a quick audio edit, I use Audacity and/or Garageband. So good job Apple... your efforts have driven me away from a single versatile piece of software.
The_Adventurist ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:25:33 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When exactly was imovie not a piece of shit?
xavierthegreat ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:46:50 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like 2001-2014 lol
Nodeemus ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:37:54 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering it's a completely free movie editor I think it does okay. You get what you put into it.
thesmartboiler ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:45:35 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually really good if you arent an idiot.
luke_in_the_sky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:23:22 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it's good for basic things, but it's pretty limited. You can't position titles were you want, you can't put more than one title (and PIP) at the same time and you can't control the titles fading duration.
shakaman_ ยท 199 points ยท Posted at 17:00:00 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"It just works"
AyrA_ch ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 17:09:34 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe not the way you expect it though
DjWithNoNameYet ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 17:29:45 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bugs are features!
AyrA_ch ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:20:51 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/yzzYY7P.png
SuperFLEB ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:54:07 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not useless, it's streamlined!
JawnF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:45 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're watching it wrong.
Cobaltjedi117 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 18:41:07 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It just
works
NipplesInAJar ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 19:23:40 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It just wo
rks
DankeyKang11 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:20:28 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It ju st wor ks
o0Rh0mbus0o ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:27:29 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I t j u s t w o r k s
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:57:32 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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GLP3FELJHAUTUP4R ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:30 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IS THIS A MOTHERFUCKIN' JOJO REFERENCE?!?!
zurper ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:00:09 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry for being totally off topic here but I've always wondered why Rareware is a flair option for this sub. Is there context?
shakaman_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:33 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally just clicked it myself mate sorry I can't help you
Cristian_01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:14 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With courage
ThePortalsOfFrenzy ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:29:53 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
literally r/titlegore
iComeInPeices ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 17:06:23 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And every image gets the kens burn effect, and you have to dig around the internet to figure out how to turn it off!
4kVHS ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 17:12:41 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty easy to change the mode to "fit" or "crop"
iComeInPeices ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:36:54 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, my comment conveying frustration shows I found it perfectly easy setting.
iComeInPeices ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:36:57 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, my comment conveying frustration shows I found it perfectly easy setting.
SquidKid47 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:26 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant username...?
iComeInPeices ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:38:18 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure why not :-)
SquidKid47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:44 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the new mac that you have to assemble yourself.
Courage.
/s
vhite ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 18:28:46 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't read what you are trying to say but that effect moving the text is fucking stupid if you ask me.
pistonet ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:17:05 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I've had to deal with this before, and then the deal with not being able to change the font or TYPE LOWERCASE in some of the title templates just adds to my fury. Why the hell would you do that?!
wpm ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 20:10:34 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty dumb, but so is using a "title" to write a goddamn essay.
It's a "title" for a movie, Apple probably assumes that most people aren't going to be using more than 5 or 10 words in their titles.
๐๏ธ danman_d ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:29:58 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's still an issue with a 2-word title, if you size the text to take up most of the frame at the beginning of the animation (as most people would do).
luke_in_the_sky ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:33:16 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have to make the title a little smaller and break the lines manually (option+return). That way the title still have room to expand.
I'm not defending Apple, just explaining how to work around this.
SolidKGB ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:05:33 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a damn shame that Apple has given the finger to its creative market. iMovie while always an entry level editing software was what I learned on in middle school. I am now a freelance video editor and get paid good money doing it. I used to use final cut around 2007 and it was good. Now it's iMovie deluxe for $299. I wish Apple cared about its creative customers like it did 10 years ago.
PickaxeFrenzy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:35:43 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew it wasn't just me
akcaye ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:08:26 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're reading it wrong
troher ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:29:32 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: iMovie makes me dyslectic.
sheeplipid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:58:44 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what it feels like typing something in Facebook recently.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:01:15 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
bonus gore: imovie project files use the extension .imovieproject
TF2Captain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:42:53 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/mildlyinfuriating
icorrectotherpeople ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:42:19 on October 29, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โiOS is superior to Androidโ
Bro you guys have to pay for ringtones.
MassiveMeatMissile ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:54:49 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't iMovie free with Macintosh computers? They probably want you to buy Final Cut.
omninode ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:53:59 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt it. Final Cut is pro-level software, not something you can just pick up and use when you feel limited by iMovie.
monkeybreath ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:39:08 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you can buy the software on the Mac App Store whenever you feel like it. But figuring it out might take a bit of effort.
ReasonableAssumption ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:02:17 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's only $300. That's $1000 less than Avid Media Composer.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:26:46 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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MassiveMeatMissile ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 18:28:23 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know much about video editing software, but isn't Final Cut pretty much the industry standard?
edit: sorry I asked a question, downvoters
smushkan ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:06:19 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Final Cut lost quite a bit favour when they made massive changes between FCP7 and FCPX, both in workflow requirements and how the software worked under the hood. The changes were so extreme that FCP7 projects are not natively usable in FCPX and instead have to be converted through intermediate formats.
Can't remember the exact figures, but a survey in one of the industry mags we got last week or the week before puts the order something like this for film and broadcast most popular at the top:
I can't remeber the exact figures, but I do seem to recall noting that Premiere had significantly more share than FCPX and FCP7 combined.
They used data from this report which unfortunately can't be viewed for free.
That's from memory though, we get so many mags I can't even remember which one did the survey.
_dpk ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:50:49 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the problems with X were mostly fixed within a year. The problem was it was just a mismanaged launch โ even the leading engineers knew it was a bad idea to launchX and deprecate 7 at the same time but Apple's marketig didn't want it to look like a half-arsed transition. Instead they made it look like a blundering piece of lunacy.
wpm ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:04:01 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it's clawing its way back but a lack of proper Pro level Macs isn't helping them either.
dedicated2fitness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:44 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
16gb of ddr3 memory isn't enough for a pro? /s
leosworld777 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:58:40 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It used to be until they made it more consumer friendly. Most professionals use AVID or Premiere now.
HooptyDooDooMeister ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:52 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went from iMovie to Final Cut Express 3.5 in 2006. Recently upgraded to Final Cut Pro X (current edition). It feels more like iMovie with slightly more features than FCE from 10 years ago. It's easier to imagine my grandma using it than a professional editor. It's got Apple's style with Windows 7 intuition. I really do not enjoy it.
dedicated2fitness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:27:12 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
welcome to apple ever since jobs died.
twitchosx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:35 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck. AVID is still around? I played with a pirated version of that back in the late 90's. Is AVID like Quark is now days? Like, still there and still powerful but nobody uses it because theres better shit out there?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:00 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, Avid is the predominate editing software for feature films and television.
twitchosx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:05 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhh.. ok.
4nonymo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:59:34 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the most "industry standard" software right now is Adobe Premier. Final Cut is probably more common to non-professionals since it's an Apple product, but it's barely used by professionals in the industry anymore.
The_Adventurist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:30 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was, but they royally fucked it up and now almost nobody professional still uses it.
WhoThrewPoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:22 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It used to be, but they charge like $15 in the app store now?
luke_in_the_sky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:06 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When they put it on advertisements to sell Macs, it's not free. It's part of the product.
OneRetrove ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:41:55 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iMovie has always been a horrifically glitchy program
it started going downhill especially after the 2013 update
90snickeldeon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:09:23 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I miss Snow Leopard iMovie and iMovie HD 6.
jamielarie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:01 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It took me like 5 times to read this.
Waxalous123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:34:58 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it controversial to prefer movie maker?
agentvietnam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:08:06 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone file a radar
GollyJeeWizz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:42 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I almost had a seizure trying to read the message.
beckybeckybeckybecky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:16 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes!!! I made a really quick slideshow type iMovie last year for an assembly and I must have retyped and deleted/added my slide that used expand like 10 times. I could not figure out why it was normal in the editing form and then when I would play through it would move. All the other slides were in expand as well but I guess they were short enough so they didn't do it. So annoying. Also dumb from my perspective but in my stressy state I could not solve the problem.
BowQueesha ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:05:53 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the most accurate depiction of my dyslexia I have ever seen. So weird.
seven-second-delay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:24 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, I feel like there's a study in that
Trevj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:45 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember WAY back when, there was a bug where if you had the font curlz mt installed, the imovie UI would use it for everything. Now that was
terriblefabulous.nautsfw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:10 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"iMovie's "Expand" title reflows the text during the animation, which is pretty fucking stupid if you ask me."
For those of you who (like me) struggled to even read this mess.
SpooleStoole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:59:35 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, that text animation is meant to be used for like movie title style stuff. One or two words.
illli-oo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:10:36 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they're trying to enforce brevity. Like, why would you ever need a 19 word title?
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SSSuperSpike ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:06 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Took me 5 tries to actually read this.
Axcel34 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:24:15 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It took me like 3 cycles of that gif to be able to read what it said.
Flabbergasted122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:33 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm getting sick. Every sentence looks like it is expanding, now. Making me nauseous.
monkeybreath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:32 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe put in hard returns, set the text box to fill the width?
Oh_Hell_Ya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:01 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too Fast!!
funkbanger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:41 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been staring at it for a whole minute and i could never get to finish the sentence completely in one read.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:16 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is the text2speech thing a part of iMovie too?
All those shitty YT videos that have that kind of fidgetty text tend to be narrated by a robot too.
jtvjan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:47 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, but having a natural sounding robot voice is very easy on Mac. Make a text file containing all your text, call it
text.txtand save it in your home directory. Open Terminal and typesay -f text.txt -o text.aiff. An .aiff file will appear in your home directory containing the text spoken in your systemโs default voice. Typesay -v ?to get a list of installed voices, and usesay -v "Name" -f text.txt -o text.aiffto use a specific voice.nakkh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:06 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God Dammit- reading that made me angry.
Flowa-Powa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:23 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nerfed to make you buy FXP
dontjudgemyname69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:44 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It took me like 8 times to see what it actually said
Gstary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:57 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i noticed posting status's on facebook does the same thing. as you type them it constantly resizes which is even more irritating than this gif
RG585 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:08 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Took me a while to read this r/mildlyinfuriating
BuiltTheSkyForMyDawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:50 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh dear god I'm laughing so hard
TheScribe86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:34 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/crappydesign
naoife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:52 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/mildlyinfuriating
probonotho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:43 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at this final cut pro shill /s
FunkyPants1263 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:41 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iMovie in general is softwaregore
nathanlegit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:17 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The real question is why would anyone use iMovie to begin with?
themalwilson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:44 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No but it's reactive
cgaweekly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:04 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Credit where credit is due, iMovie is the best free editing software to come with a computer
Lookin at you windows movie maker
Poyfromraze2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:32 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Use Vegas Pro. iMovie is trash, and I used it for 5 years until I came across vegas pro.
DerFelix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:26 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing happens in Vegas Pro. At least if you use the Legacy Text Media with the Animate function.
el_padlina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:17 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for a seizure
coltblod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:49 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this took me waay to fucking long to read
90snickeldeon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:15 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tim Cook is back at it again. Steve Jobs is killing himself in his grave right now. He isn't dead enough.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:32 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a bug. It's a Feature !
kelloggj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:49 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was the main video guy at my high school, but to make it "fair" we let me do a video and someone else in our leadership class got the chance to make one. This girl in my class made a slideshow with this as her title system for every single subtitle, and she thought the changes were cool. She was an idiot.
Ler0yyJenkins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:53 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not going to lie... I came here because I read it as "titties in movies"
d_smogh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:41 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Double checked the gif playback to see if there were any; sadly disappointed
nav13eh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:23 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone that has used Premiere or Final Cut Pro likely dispises iMovie, at least I know I do.
justcallmetexxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:51 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's why pros use Adobe Creative Suite
piefacepro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:28 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everything about imovie is pretty fucking stupid if you ask anyone.
Myorck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:52 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But... there is so much space on the sides...
Michalusmichalus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:59 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why did it just take that long to read a simple sentence!? Just because you can...doesnt mean you should.
Nightwing72011 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:33 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/mildlyinfuriating
Garinn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:55 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We get the point you don't have to stab us in the eyes with it.
Mr_BruceWayne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:30 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Steve Jobs probably would have fired someone over this.
Stereogravy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:06 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't tell if you just don't know how to use the title maker or not.
I work on premiere and if I just type in the title, it'll look like that, but if I go into it and change a bunch of settings, then it looks like what you see on tv and movies.
๐๏ธ danman_d ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:46:49 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know "how to use it," in that I can also make it look correct by adding manual line breaks and fiddling with a bunch of settings. The point is that it's software made to be used by amateurs, and the default settings create terrible results. As a programmer of >10 years, it's clear to me this never would have been an issue if more care had gone into building it the right way in the first place.
Stereogravy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:49 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iMovie was made to quickly make videos like windows movie maker.
But the second purpose is to introduce you to Final Cut Pro. Since it's "final cut lite" it's just like adobe premiere elements and photoshop to photoshop elements, Gimp, or any beginner software.
It's doing it's job exactly like it's suppose to. The titles are on par with keynote and PowerPoint.
I don't know what your complaining about, download presets or templates if it's bugging you that much.
therisingalleria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:51 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there any free alternatives to iMovie?
Pianoglacierinono ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:12 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Da Vinci Resolve. A much more powerful but less "cookie cutter" editing tool
ash1m ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:38 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, this effect works best for short phrases ('In a world..') and not meant to be a presentation slide.
davidpark105 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:27 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hi!
sharamall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:25 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
when the code is perfect but the business rules are awful
"always make the text fit in the screen"
"okay..."
MyHeartInMusic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:58 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what kind of fuckery is this
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:10 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Legit rolling in my grave rn
combustion888 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:55 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
responsive video?
YourVeryOwnCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:34 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/HighQualityGifs?
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_youtubot_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:11:22 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video linked by /u/Mentioned_Videos:
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Zhang5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:56 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/CrappyDesign
el_picardio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:41 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if Final Cut does that...
Tcowstuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:25:04 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't use iMovie and correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this feature is intended for animation, but moreso for easier resizing as a static text box? Otherwise this is a really dumb feature
PingerSurprise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:07 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drop AssMovie and get Movie Studio Platinum. It's a much more affordable base of Vegas.
veetoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:13 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thought this said "Titties in iMovie"
Disappointed click.
jens1101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:14 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ikr, CSS sucks. Oh, wait, this is iMovie we're talking about.
nathodood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:48 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Top post of all time, well done, OP
warmpuppy404 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:38 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you avoid this by manually creating lines with the enter key?
VerticalRadius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:34 on October 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Next gen word wrap.
Bacon_spec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:34 on December 21, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
!redditsilver
Nuuuuuuuuuu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:08 on January 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
it took me a good 30 seconds to read that
skram_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:22 on January 27, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
r/bonehurtingjuice
filthydank_2099 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:29 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me even more worried for the future of apple
The_Adventurist ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:34:21 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is Apple doing anything new and exciting at all? They still seem entirely focused on the iPhone, a product that was launched 10 years ago. Their professional computers are seriously lagging behind competition and their software division, for all we know, could be an abandoned building filled with cobwebs and spiders.
I haven't been impressed by Apple in a really long time and that makes me think Apple is approaching its age of decline.
Shokushukun ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:44:48 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at the airpods. The apple watch. The new iMac Pro. Theyโre doing just fine
Nodeemus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:39 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, I feel like they're putting their effort in the wrong areas. Garage band for mobile is incredible and unparalleled in mobile DAWs, I would love to see more support for that and iMovie mobile as well.
dedicated2fitness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:06 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
apple computers make a fraction of what apple phones do. apple knows what it's doing.
right now the only reason i think apple machines exist are to give developers the ability to make apple software(in a wishy washy, apple doesn't really care about how much time you took to make your shitty app kinda way)
on the other hand windows 10 gets more and more futuristic with every update. bash on linux on windows is really interesting
MNVapes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:40 on September 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
which is bs because I learned computers and Basic on an apple IIe and the IIgs was my first color computing experience and Arkanoid on the IIgs was my first truly addictive pc gaming experience.
I want early 90s Apple back.
In my opinion apple stopped making exclusively cool stuff right around the time the first iMacs dropped and the MacBook was the last cool product they had but they've killed that too.
dedicated2fitness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:25 on September 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
give up mate, steve jobs is dead and the bottomline is about mobiles right now.
however it isn't all bad. samsung's dex platform is definitely going to be copied by other people - the more powerful mobile cores get the more inevitable it seems. intel is also trending downwards with their processor sizes and you can get a fairly powerful laptop cpu for cheap
the next gen(i mean 5 years onwards) will be very exciting coz we will either see idevices cement their hold over the market or a new leader(probably intel) lead the charge into portable mobile like computers that are actually capable of doing everything a computer should be able to do and everything a mobile should be able to do
MNVapes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:13 on September 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just saddened by it all. I was an absolute apple evangelist now I literally own nothing apple because you really don't have to look very hard to find a clearly superior product.
Everyone touts the iPhone as being better than everything else but at the same time an iphone doesn't do half of the things a comparably priced android does.
Yes the battery life is better but that's because it's not analyzing my usage patterns and anticipating my every want and need the way an android device does.
I can't ever say hey siri take me to work and have the device actually navigate me to my work accurately while also recommending accurate detours to avoid traffic and stop for my caffeine fix.
I've literally never even manually entered an address into my phone because the voice recognition and machine learning algorithms are that good.
Basically Google is now Apple on the software side of things and unfortunately no one has fulfilled their role on the hardware side of things...
filthydank_2099 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:17:46 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The iPhone was perfect at 6
lingee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:10 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty fucking stupid to put paragraphs in templates meant for a single name or title
redldr1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:56:28 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came for the titties, stayed for the text wrap gore
Sahnge ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:30 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe your movie titles are too long.
rockercaster ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 18:30:30 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why the fuck would you write a paragraph in that expanding text? Of course itโs going to not work as expected. Itโs called a โtitleโ for a reason. Itโs meant for one line with maybe one or two words.
svenskarrmatey ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:45:35 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This doesn't justify the text being reflowed
SheeEttin ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 18:53:02 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not justified, it's centered
Sneak_Stealth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:37 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Take your goddamn upvote and get out.
๐๏ธ danman_d ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:27:39 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it's not like a good movie has ever been made with a title long enough to need a line break. /s
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:39 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So don't use imovie for that. Premiere is fucking garbage at titles and it costs slightly more than nothing.
Cormophyte ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:30:22 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it has one of two choices in that situation. It can let the text scroll off screen or wrap. Both bad and in the end it's the user's fault for putting the software in a position to have to choose one.
But since it's made for baseline, completely computer illiterate people it's making the assumption that you just might not even know enough to even recognize that your text pushing past title safe is a problem. Let alone what's causing it or how to fix it.
๐๏ธ danman_d ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:31:55 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or it could wrap the text at the beginning of the animation based on how much space will be available at the end of the animation. This is the sane choice. Blaming it on the user because "how dare they want multi-line title cards?!" is silly IMHO.
Cormophyte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:10 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So what happens if the card has enough text that it's tiny when it's starts and the ends are cut off by the time it's enlarged? I guess you could have a character limit but then you have to factor in the details of the typeface and now changing the size of the font can force you to edit out a portion of the title's characters.
That's not so bad if you have some idea of what you're doing but the problem is that design decisions about iMovie were probably made with the computer illiterates who has no idea what they're doing in mind. The uncle who wants to throw some things together and have it play back on his iMac when his nephew comes over is who they wrote it for. That person clicks buttons without reading them or remembering that they did it, which is why programs like iMovie are short on options. So Uncle Dave can fumble for an hour, click the play button, and have his text legible the first time because you know it didn't occur to him to check his work.
I mean, we're talking about a demographic that generally knows so little about what they're doing that they couldn't even do file management without a good amount of hand holding.
I'm not arguing that this is a great solution, just that all the solutions I've seen here will either give you as bad a graphical result (arguably) or will confuse who the software was written for in the first place.
Dlgredael ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:11 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Text expanding off screen isn't even necessarily a problem, but readjusting constantly is never good.
paraffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:45 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The problem is that the reflow is far more visually disruptive and should never ever happen for any reason, whereas small text may just be mildly uncomfortable in rare edge cases. No reason you need to push text off screen either, there are plenty of knobs to tweak (expansion rate and min/max element size, for example)
But, logic for reflow in expand animations simply shouldn't exist. It is always very visually distracting.
BEEF_PIPE ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:57:13 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Darn I thought it said titties.
Hypnot0ad ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:00:40 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who else clicked because they thought the title said "Titties in iMovie"?
Chernoobyl ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:14:26 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read that as "titties in iMovie" and was pretty excited... I think this was actually better, too funny!
mrhyde1259 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:21:49 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read "titties in Imovie" and was therefore very disappointed
HHA2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:38:06 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read the title as "Titties in iMovie". was perplexed and disappointed when I clicked...
zdakat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:44:33 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iMovie is softwaregore.
IamKingBeagle ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:54:32 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anybody else thought this said "titties in iMovie"? I watched it a few times and had no idea what was going on.
ShikiRyumaho ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:31:57 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Using gifs is really stupid too.
dsack79 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:49:59 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
first glance i read "titties in imovie"
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:07 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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2veryicey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:26 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
T is for short sentences "In a world" "introducing: generic movie" etc
deadcell ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:21:17 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/HighQualityGifs
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 21:14:38 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Expand" isn't for your wall of text, dumbass. Anyone who animates a wall of text that is meant to be read should have their mouse hand removed.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:26:21 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:31:50 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't animate the title then, dumbfuck. Design is about making appropriate choices to communicate effectively, not just slapping effects on things and expecting it to work.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 20:21:40 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:55:26 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, they are consistently the leader by far in performance, but ok.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:29 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:38:46 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every single benchmark used. Lolololol
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:09 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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exjr_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:55 on August 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Assuming you meant 4K video: http://i.imgur.com/aWj6sHi.png
Edit: Funny how you call him a fanboy but your fanboyism is also showing
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:29 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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DontBeABadPerson ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:56:41 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uhmm the Galaxy s8 has a 1440p resolution, not 4K. And it's not even used by default, it's 1080p and you have to change it in the settings. Also, iPhones are usually amazing in performance, it usually takes Samsung not one but TWO generations of phones to catch on (this "record" has been like this since the iPhone 5s, you can check it by yourself). By the way, I'm an Android user, but Jesus, some Android fans are quite annoying.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:44:37 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The point is more flexibility in post. There is no reason to deliver iPhone footage in 4K, there's barely any reason to do it for anything. We shoot everything 4K, and have never once delivered at over 1080. As for the screen, there's no pint in that high if a resolution in that small of a size, you'd certainly never tell the difference in a video, and it would be a huge drain on the battery and processor.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:15 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:35:47 on August 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody said that about 1080, and you're comparing phones with tvs. Guess you can't stop a fanboy train.