Really? I think Diamond kind of killed my interest back in the day. But maybe that was because I reached that age of like 13 where I thought I was too old for Pokemon, though. I think HGSS and Platinum really saved that gen.
The end of gen 3 was right around where I started learning about EVs, the fact that certain moves used special and physical, and the fact that Blaze Kick keyed off Blaziken's special attack, which was stupid.
Gen 4 fixed that and I whole-hogged right through til sun and moon.
I barely finished it, and I didn't make it halfway through USUM. :C
If you compare both games all the way down to the nitty gritty, you'll begin to notice how many similarities there are especially if you go down to the UX level. Menus were similar, kept mechanics like secret bases, contests/ribbons, battle frontier, both hoenn and sinnoh are designed off of a grid so that they would have a somewhat accurate town map, the route before the pokemon league is a water route, with a waterfall blocking a Pokemon center and victory road, the transition titles that appear when you enter another area are extremely similar, building exits are marked by red squares with an arrow, berry farming occurs in patches randomly around the world, etc. Gen 4 simply is just taking the core of Gen 3 and expanding upon what already came before it.
JDraks · 17 points · Posted at 13:08:19 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Great figure, I was actually working in a similar one that looks specifically at regional dexes, but I really like that you used overall availability.
It's interesting that while the number of Pokemon has almost doubled since Gen 4, the amount of available Pokemon per game since then hasn't really changed that much.
I would really like to see these numbers represented as proportions as well, to really get an idea of what % of Pokemon in a game are from which Gen.
I’m assuming this data represents what Pokémon are available overall in each game, right? If that’s the case, I’d argue that the larger presence of Pokémon from past generations is to allow players who don’t have access to previous games for transferring Pokémon to complete as much as the PokéDex on one game as possible.
I think a better graph that I’d like to see is the representation of each generation in a game’s regional PokéDex. That way, we can truly tell which generations are give a bigger spotlight in regional PokéDexes.
That's actually what I'm hoping for to, have a post-game where you can catch Pokémon outside the regional dex so transfering wouldn't be necessary for some people, especially for new collectors. Milk the 2 game split by having 2 completely different post-game Pokémon to be captured. Maybe have one game make you get the legendary beasts, then one game make you get the Swords of Justice. Split box legendaries in the game and needing to have them both to unlock their trio master or something.
The gen 1 designs are simple, uncomplicated, and iconic. They also tend to have a slight edginess in a franchise that is consitently getting sweeter and rounder with its designs.
I know in online communities, gen 1 is considered overdone, but as a casual player I love seeing the stray Fearow, Cloyster, or Magmar in games to round out the hugely common modern ones. And there are a lot of modern mons to compete with.
While I agree a lot of the designs are iconic, hell some of my favorite mons are from Kanto, I just think it’s a bit too overdone. Look at Leon from SWSH, his signature Pokémon it seems is Charizard, yeah he’s iconic and all but shouldn’t it be a gen 8 Pokémon? It’s ok if they give gen 1 mons more love, but it’d be cool to see it for other Pokémon Yknow? Like Dodrio, Farfetched, the Voltorb line, the geodude line, there are lots of other Pokémon in Kanto but it only seems that like a small handful of them really matter: the starters, Pikachu, Mewtwo and some others
I guess what I’m saying is I wish they would branch out and give more attention to other gen 1 mons.
So you're telling me that the most represented are Gens 1, 3, and 5, and 7 with the least being 2, 4 and 6. Other than odd and even numbers grouping together coincidentally, it seems like the favorite gens are repped the most.
You just gave so much ammo to people sick of anti gen 1 sentiment haha
It's worth noting that Gens 2 and 6 are small in total number of pokemon introduced. I think a more telling graph would be what % of each Gen's pokemon were repped in each game
Gen 6 introduced 72 Pokemon, Gen 7 introduced 86 Pokemon, Gen 2 introduced 100, and Gen 4 introduced 107. These are the four generations that introduced the least amount of Pokemon. So you're definitely right that percentages would help more, especially since gens 3, 1, and 5 introduced 135, 151, and 156 Pokemon, respectively.
107 new Pokémon seems to be the most balanced addition -- Gen 1 plus next gens mean 50 + (107 × 7) = 899, just 92 more to add this gen to get that balance and they can add 107 again for each subsequent gen.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 11:29:18 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
It's not really fair to say gen 7 is the most represented if it's the latest gen we have right now. Of course gen 7 will have all gen 7 pokemon
If you look at the serebii dex, a lot of gen 7 mons have already been confirmed such as mimikyu, bewear, (whatever domanatrix plant is), and a few others. They make a good chunk of an otherwise currently small roster.
What I'd be interested to see, is how many PKMN of each generation have been included in each regional-dex.
And I mean how many as a percentage of the total of PKMN added in their own generation (so, like gen2="40% of all gen2 PKMN are present in this regionaldex", rather than "gen2 is 10% of this regionaldex").
I would however exclude legendaries in the numbers, cause different games have different reasons and emphasis on throwing in a bunch of legends in the postgame or omitting old legends altogether.
...I'd also possibly just consider PKMN by evolutionary family, while disregarding cross-gen additions to them completely, as those are automatically added if the family is, and aren't if it isn't.
But the chart I am imagining...could optimally have very similar percentage numbers across generations for a given regional dex, besides the "new gen" being pretty much 100% in its own regionaldex obviously.
...figure I'll make that chart when I get home in 6h or so.
I didn’t realise how many Pokemon were catchable in USUM, the one thing this is actually good for is to actually use as proof for those that believe the dex in gen 8 is going to be like 300 Pokemon or less. If USUM can contain over 500 Pokemon in such a small place then I assume we’ll get at least 500 in gen 8 which is significantly better than what people are claiming it will be.
The majority of games since gen 4 have had between 450-500 catchable with (SuMo the exception) if there is any less than 450 there is a serious serious issue besides the already glaring lack of useable Pokemon.
True, but the region Pokedexes are a different story.
There's only 302 in the regional pokedex in SM. (403 in USUM). 210 in Sinnoh. 155 in Unova. (300 in B2W2)
What I'm getting at is that Masuda has been very specific about talking about the "Galar region Pokedex". Which is different from what's obtainable. :/
I’m assuming they’ll just incorporate it into just one dex since there is no longer a national dex, so they’ll just be standard Pokemon in the regional dex considering some Pokemon are only available after raids which is sort of like a mechanic of hoards which use to contain none regional Pokemon.
I mean it's still half of the total species out -- having a region only dex also means we may not have post-game exclusive captures like swarms or "Pokeradar"/"region radio"/"island scan".
Almost every game gen 4 and onwards has at least 450-500 Pokemon catchable, obviously it’s no guarantee but it’s safe to assume these numbers will be close to what we’ll get or better, compared to those complaining about 300 or less Pokemon available. If we’re getting 450-500 average back then and given the current circumstances I don’t think they would dare to include less Pokemon than that, considering we’re not getting all the Pokemon playable anyway and it’s a considerably more powerful console. If they do have less it’s going to get a hell of a lot worse criticism than what they’re getting now.
And every game gen 1 and onward allowed you to play all species from Bulba to the last one in the gen. This one won't.
I'm saying that to highlight GF can't be counted on making the games better or even keeping a consistent quality. So it would be no surprise if the number of catchables was considerably smaller than that.
Console «power» makes no difference here. What limits the amount of catchable mons in a given game is development, they need to «fit» those mons into the ingame world. However the effective dev time in this gen was lower since their focus was not in Pokémon, but in Town.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 10:57:04 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)*
Almost all the postgame areas (White Forest/the town where you fight Cynthia, The crater with Kyurem...) have (almost) exclusively pre Gen5 creatures, they also get added to rippling water/grass (like Dragonite, Milotic) and there are some trades too (like Munchlax)
This graph made me check if every pokemon (besides mythicals/event-only pokemon) were obtainable in gen 4 and they are. I already knew this was the case for gen 6.
Edit: just realized this was possible in gen 3 aswell.
My favorite part of each region are the new Pokemon, so it makes a lot of sense that my favorite regions -- Johto, Hoenn, and Unova -- not only have a lot of new Pokemon but seamlessly integrate them with the old ones and it doesn't feel like either side is necessarily bloated. That's why I don't really like Kalos/Alola too much because there's often too few new Pokemon or they're not as well highlighted because old ones take precedence in a lot of situations. So... here's hoping Galar ends up more like the ones I like, because I love the new Pokemon in it!
It'll look pretty normal, since this chart only shows distribution of stuff in the regional dex. The SwSh controversy is that everything not in this regional dex won't be in the game at all.
I think this chart shows the Pokemon catchable within each set of games, not their regional dexes. ORAS has a decent number of Pokemon catchable from each generation in its postgame, but its regional dex consists only of Pokemon from Hoenn and earlier plus any evos and pre-evos added in later generations, such as Budew and Roserade.
According to GF, they will add pokemon to the dex based on popularity. I’m really curious what they will think is popular and what isnt. Aside from all of gen 1 being in it of course.
Smarag · 1 points · Posted at 10:58:23 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
no this shows the national dex. Regional dexes only have pokemon from their own region at least until gen 4
Zorua3 · 1 points · Posted at 13:01:43 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
You're both wrong. This is the amount of catchable Pokemon in each game. So it's the game's Regional Dex + Pokemon like the ones in BW's postgame or SM's QR codes, and so on.
jarejare3 · 178 points · Posted at 03:31:01 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
I didn't expect Gen 3 to have such a large representation. Damn. It's almost equivalent to gen 1.
DolooresH4ze · 91 points · Posted at 08:20:13 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Gen3 was peak Pokémon games. They should have built onto that and improve it.
Xolam · 127 points · Posted at 09:04:48 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
That's exactly what they did with gen 4
KanYeJeBekHouden · 19 points · Posted at 09:57:49 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Really? I think Diamond kind of killed my interest back in the day. But maybe that was because I reached that age of like 13 where I thought I was too old for Pokemon, though. I think HGSS and Platinum really saved that gen.
JoeYale · 38 points · Posted at 10:09:18 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
I was the exact opposite so who knows. Hated gen 3, was the age I thought I was too cool for it. Gen 4 is what brought me back and made me a lifer.
Hyatice · 7 points · Posted at 11:30:59 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
The end of gen 3 was right around where I started learning about EVs, the fact that certain moves used special and physical, and the fact that Blaze Kick keyed off Blaziken's special attack, which was stupid.
Gen 4 fixed that and I whole-hogged right through til sun and moon.
I barely finished it, and I didn't make it halfway through USUM. :C
AnotherRussianGamer · 4 points · Posted at 17:38:38 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
If you compare both games all the way down to the nitty gritty, you'll begin to notice how many similarities there are especially if you go down to the UX level. Menus were similar, kept mechanics like secret bases, contests/ribbons, battle frontier, both hoenn and sinnoh are designed off of a grid so that they would have a somewhat accurate town map, the route before the pokemon league is a water route, with a waterfall blocking a Pokemon center and victory road, the transition titles that appear when you enter another area are extremely similar, building exits are marked by red squares with an arrow, berry farming occurs in patches randomly around the world, etc. Gen 4 simply is just taking the core of Gen 3 and expanding upon what already came before it.
JDraks · 17 points · Posted at 13:08:19 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Nah, Platinum, HGSS, and BW(2) are
SuperSpiritShady · 2 points · Posted at 14:25:06 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Emerald is a little lower down
AnotherRussianGamer · -4 points · Posted at 17:44:57 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
I hope that (2) specifically refers to the sequels because the original BW are pretty bad, or at least don't warrant a high placement.
ShillerndeGeister · 5 points · Posted at 16:47:35 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
*gen5
sylinmino · 0 points · Posted at 13:23:56 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Gen 3's actually my least favorite gen. Definitely would not consider them peak Pokemon, especially over Gen 2 or Gen 5.
PictoNoMii · 1 points · Posted at 10:44:10 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Because they're remakes?
Reddichu9001 · 133 points · Posted at 04:40:28 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
smh, look at how many of the pokemon in rby are from gen 1. When will the favoritism stop
[deleted] · 26 points · Posted at 06:18:09 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
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Sett_Prinn · 76 points · Posted at 04:18:16 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
As cool as this is, I kinda want to see the physical numbers to fully rap me head around this. It’s kinda hard to decipher. Otherwise pretty cool.
HumanAtlas · 17 points · Posted at 05:38:36 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Great figure, I was actually working in a similar one that looks specifically at regional dexes, but I really like that you used overall availability.
It's interesting that while the number of Pokemon has almost doubled since Gen 4, the amount of available Pokemon per game since then hasn't really changed that much.
I would really like to see these numbers represented as proportions as well, to really get an idea of what % of Pokemon in a game are from which Gen.
zjzr_08 · 5 points · Posted at 09:35:48 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
I also would like to see a line to show how many is the regional number and also the ratio between availability in-game and total Pokémon.
DarkSlayer415 · 29 points · Posted at 03:40:44 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
I’m assuming this data represents what Pokémon are available overall in each game, right? If that’s the case, I’d argue that the larger presence of Pokémon from past generations is to allow players who don’t have access to previous games for transferring Pokémon to complete as much as the PokéDex on one game as possible.
I think a better graph that I’d like to see is the representation of each generation in a game’s regional PokéDex. That way, we can truly tell which generations are give a bigger spotlight in regional PokéDexes.
zjzr_08 · 10 points · Posted at 09:52:39 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
That's actually what I'm hoping for to, have a post-game where you can catch Pokémon outside the regional dex so transfering wouldn't be necessary for some people, especially for new collectors. Milk the 2 game split by having 2 completely different post-game Pokémon to be captured. Maybe have one game make you get the legendary beasts, then one game make you get the Swords of Justice. Split box legendaries in the game and needing to have them both to unlock their trio master or something.
MegaSwampert18 · 9 points · Posted at 03:42:22 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Yeah, that’s what I’m trying to figure out, if it means all the Pokemon you can catch or obtain across the various version of each entry
Radar_Of_The_Stars · 28 points · Posted at 04:11:54 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
too much Gen 1 representation in the Kanto Games, smh
[deleted] · 19 points · Posted at 04:50:33 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
I agree, every gen is under represented in kanto except gen 1. Dafuq is this.
I say we riot.
Lucario576 · 10 points · Posted at 06:27:24 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Yeah, Pokemon from Kanto in KANTO? What is this?
Thatusername777 · 1 points · Posted at 18:01:26 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Talk about invasive species, there aren't any other gens left!
lumpus12 · 51 points · Posted at 03:25:29 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Tbh I know gen 1 has been around the longest but we need some less gen 1
thenabi · 1 points · Posted at 20:05:09 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
The gen 1 designs are simple, uncomplicated, and iconic. They also tend to have a slight edginess in a franchise that is consitently getting sweeter and rounder with its designs.
I know in online communities, gen 1 is considered overdone, but as a casual player I love seeing the stray Fearow, Cloyster, or Magmar in games to round out the hugely common modern ones. And there are a lot of modern mons to compete with.
lumpus12 · 2 points · Posted at 20:11:28 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
While I agree a lot of the designs are iconic, hell some of my favorite mons are from Kanto, I just think it’s a bit too overdone. Look at Leon from SWSH, his signature Pokémon it seems is Charizard, yeah he’s iconic and all but shouldn’t it be a gen 8 Pokémon? It’s ok if they give gen 1 mons more love, but it’d be cool to see it for other Pokémon Yknow? Like Dodrio, Farfetched, the Voltorb line, the geodude line, there are lots of other Pokémon in Kanto but it only seems that like a small handful of them really matter: the starters, Pikachu, Mewtwo and some others
I guess what I’m saying is I wish they would branch out and give more attention to other gen 1 mons.
Dreyfus2006 · 11 points · Posted at 04:45:11 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
I think it would be better to show the percentage of Gen. 1 Pokémon in BW (for example), rather than the actual number.
It accounts for the fact that some Generations (1, 3, 5) were naturally bigger than others (2, 6).
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 13:24:04 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
The bw bar is Marge Simpson
WritingEternity · 21 points · Posted at 04:13:21 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
So you're telling me that the most represented are Gens 1, 3, and 5, and 7 with the least being 2, 4 and 6. Other than odd and even numbers grouping together coincidentally, it seems like the favorite gens are repped the most.
You just gave so much ammo to people sick of anti gen 1 sentiment haha
ajmcgill · 57 points · Posted at 04:26:21 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
It's worth noting that Gens 2 and 6 are small in total number of pokemon introduced. I think a more telling graph would be what % of each Gen's pokemon were repped in each game
TrialCaptainLana · 14 points · Posted at 08:36:38 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Gen 6 introduced 72 Pokemon, Gen 7 introduced 86 Pokemon, Gen 2 introduced 100, and Gen 4 introduced 107. These are the four generations that introduced the least amount of Pokemon. So you're definitely right that percentages would help more, especially since gens 3, 1, and 5 introduced 135, 151, and 156 Pokemon, respectively.
zjzr_08 · 2 points · Posted at 09:44:38 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
107 new Pokémon seems to be the most balanced addition -- Gen 1 plus next gens mean 50 + (107 × 7) = 899, just 92 more to add this gen to get that balance and they can add 107 again for each subsequent gen.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 11:29:18 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
It's not really fair to say gen 7 is the most represented if it's the latest gen we have right now. Of course gen 7 will have all gen 7 pokemon
WritingEternity · 2 points · Posted at 11:39:19 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
They're looking pretty well repped in swsh too right now.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 11:40:14 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Not in a mean or sarcastic manner, but how do you know that?
WritingEternity · 2 points · Posted at 11:43:32 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
If you look at the serebii dex, a lot of gen 7 mons have already been confirmed such as mimikyu, bewear, (whatever domanatrix plant is), and a few others. They make a good chunk of an otherwise currently small roster.
coltonmts · 3 points · Posted at 06:19:02 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Gen 3 FTW
Ygomaster07 · 3 points · Posted at 09:25:47 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Nice graph, very interesting.
SaiphCharon · 3 points · Posted at 10:44:36 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
What I'd be interested to see, is how many PKMN of each generation have been included in each regional-dex.
And I mean how many as a percentage of the total of PKMN added in their own generation (so, like gen2="40% of all gen2 PKMN are present in this regionaldex", rather than "gen2 is 10% of this regionaldex").
I would however exclude legendaries in the numbers, cause different games have different reasons and emphasis on throwing in a bunch of legends in the postgame or omitting old legends altogether.
...I'd also possibly just consider PKMN by evolutionary family, while disregarding cross-gen additions to them completely, as those are automatically added if the family is, and aren't if it isn't.
But the chart I am imagining...could optimally have very similar percentage numbers across generations for a given regional dex, besides the "new gen" being pretty much 100% in its own regionaldex obviously.
...figure I'll make that chart when I get home in 6h or so.
ItchyPlatypus · 6 points · Posted at 09:01:55 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
I didn’t realise how many Pokemon were catchable in USUM, the one thing this is actually good for is to actually use as proof for those that believe the dex in gen 8 is going to be like 300 Pokemon or less. If USUM can contain over 500 Pokemon in such a small place then I assume we’ll get at least 500 in gen 8 which is significantly better than what people are claiming it will be.
FionaSarah · 4 points · Posted at 09:09:59 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
We'll see about that. :/
ItchyPlatypus · 3 points · Posted at 09:15:28 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
The majority of games since gen 4 have had between 450-500 catchable with (SuMo the exception) if there is any less than 450 there is a serious serious issue besides the already glaring lack of useable Pokemon.
FionaSarah · 5 points · Posted at 09:25:29 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
True, but the region Pokedexes are a different story.
There's only 302 in the regional pokedex in SM. (403 in USUM). 210 in Sinnoh. 155 in Unova. (300 in B2W2)
What I'm getting at is that Masuda has been very specific about talking about the "Galar region Pokedex". Which is different from what's obtainable. :/
ItchyPlatypus · 2 points · Posted at 10:00:07 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
I’m assuming they’ll just incorporate it into just one dex since there is no longer a national dex, so they’ll just be standard Pokemon in the regional dex considering some Pokemon are only available after raids which is sort of like a mechanic of hoards which use to contain none regional Pokemon.
zjzr_08 · 1 points · Posted at 09:30:02 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
I mean it's still half of the total species out -- having a region only dex also means we may not have post-game exclusive captures like swarms or "Pokeradar"/"region radio"/"island scan".
PM_ME_BURNING_FLAGS · 1 points · Posted at 09:53:19 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
We can't assume Sw/Sh will have more catchables than US/UM.
ItchyPlatypus · 4 points · Posted at 10:26:06 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Almost every game gen 4 and onwards has at least 450-500 Pokemon catchable, obviously it’s no guarantee but it’s safe to assume these numbers will be close to what we’ll get or better, compared to those complaining about 300 or less Pokemon available. If we’re getting 450-500 average back then and given the current circumstances I don’t think they would dare to include less Pokemon than that, considering we’re not getting all the Pokemon playable anyway and it’s a considerably more powerful console. If they do have less it’s going to get a hell of a lot worse criticism than what they’re getting now.
PM_ME_BURNING_FLAGS · 3 points · Posted at 10:40:26 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
And every game gen 1 and onward allowed you to play all species from Bulba to the last one in the gen. This one won't.
I'm saying that to highlight GF can't be counted on making the games better or even keeping a consistent quality. So it would be no surprise if the number of catchables was considerably smaller than that.
Console «power» makes no difference here. What limits the amount of catchable mons in a given game is development, they need to «fit» those mons into the ingame world. However the effective dev time in this gen was lower since their focus was not in Pokémon, but in Town.
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Goombatastic · 2 points · Posted at 15:19:28 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Poor gen 4
bobvella · 1 points · Posted at 06:51:49 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
geez, even bw
Xolam · 1 points · Posted at 09:05:20 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Kinda misleading as it shows the whole pokedex with transfers. BW is still the game I see as only having gen 5.
The issue is that gen 1 HAS more pokemon than other gens so if every gen is in the pokedex, obviously is will have more
Obility · 3 points · Posted at 14:11:21 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
In the post game of black and white, other pokemon can be caught
Xolam · 1 points · Posted at 18:51:45 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
not all
Obility · 2 points · Posted at 19:11:51 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
I didn't say all. No game has all pokemon
zjzr_08 · 1 points · Posted at 09:31:25 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Wait, how does BW have a lot of capturable Pokémon post game, and where and how do you get access to them?
Truenakus · 2 points · Posted at 11:21:09 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)*
Almost all the postgame areas (White Forest/the town where you fight Cynthia, The crater with Kyurem...) have (almost) exclusively pre Gen5 creatures, they also get added to rippling water/grass (like Dragonite, Milotic) and there are some trades too (like Munchlax)
zjzr_08 · 1 points · Posted at 11:24:05 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
I assume its around 475 with the graph -- wow, you do have a lot of post game activity here seeing only 156 are regional.
Il_Mazzo · 1 points · Posted at 10:21:39 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
It would be interesting to see the numbers of the regional pokédexs: for most of the game (until the national pokédex) these aren't the actual datas
InferSaime · 1 points · Posted at 10:52:16 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)*
This graph made me check if every pokemon (besides mythicals/event-only pokemon) were obtainable in gen 4 and they are. I already knew this was the case for gen 6.
Edit: just realized this was possible in gen 3 aswell.
Hellofreeze · 1 points · Posted at 11:07:07 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
RBY only had Kanto Pokemon? Smh with this nostalgia pandering.
MegaCosmog · 1 points · Posted at 12:11:38 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
When FRLG has better representation than Let’s Go
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 12:57:03 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
I think you are missing a label, how do you determine representation in each game?
You_Spooked_Felicity · 1 points · Posted at 13:04:45 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Anybody else look at Black/White and see Marge Simpson?
supernatlove · 1 points · Posted at 13:38:57 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Look Gen 1 only had 1 Gen Pokémon and no one got there panties in a bunch! /s
Obility · 1 points · Posted at 14:09:18 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
So that's why hoenn felt so unique. Compared to other gens besides gen 5 of course
Sorakan · 1 points · Posted at 14:35:48 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
To be fair this graph should be done with percentages instead of numbers in my opinion.
Rampaging_Combs · 1 points · Posted at 15:22:55 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Why is sword and shield being represented in between each of all the other games /s
nitasu987 · 1 points · Posted at 15:34:11 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
My favorite part of each region are the new Pokemon, so it makes a lot of sense that my favorite regions -- Johto, Hoenn, and Unova -- not only have a lot of new Pokemon but seamlessly integrate them with the old ones and it doesn't feel like either side is necessarily bloated. That's why I don't really like Kalos/Alola too much because there's often too few new Pokemon or they're not as well highlighted because old ones take precedence in a lot of situations. So... here's hoping Galar ends up more like the ones I like, because I love the new Pokemon in it!
ImposterDittoM · 1 points · Posted at 17:26:51 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Kalos mons deserve better.
YourVeryOwnCat · 1 points · Posted at 17:57:33 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
SMH, why is RBY so focused on representing gen 1?
BlizzardTiger2 · 1 points · Posted at 18:22:58 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
I like that there is a slight gen3 rep in Firered/Leafgreen representing only 2 pokemon.
MouthofCreepiness · 1 points · Posted at 18:59:28 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
This is pretty fairly distributed, except for gen 6 I think
Rusty_Rhino77 · 1 points · Posted at 19:29:05 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Damn they really tried forgetting about gen 6 in sun and moon lmao
ScreechySequoia · 1 points · Posted at 09:49:35 on July 12, 2019 · (Permalink)
In Gen 2 games Gen 2 Pokemon are still less represented then Gen 1
Str8_up_Pwnage · 1 points · Posted at 06:42:21 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Maybe I'm an idiot but what does it mean by Pokemon representation? I don't think I understand what the graph is talking about.
CC_Zephyr · 2 points · Posted at 07:20:47 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
The different colours refer to different generations.
As such, it's a way to tell how many pokemon are catchable in-game vs transferring, and from what gen (I think?)
EpicalaxyMaster · 0 points · Posted at 08:08:55 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
This graph is going to look really interesting once gen 8 comes out...
chuggiedynasty · 3 points · Posted at 08:39:04 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
It'll look pretty normal, since this chart only shows distribution of stuff in the regional dex. The SwSh controversy is that everything not in this regional dex won't be in the game at all.
miinmeaux · 3 points · Posted at 10:45:49 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
I think this chart shows the Pokemon catchable within each set of games, not their regional dexes. ORAS has a decent number of Pokemon catchable from each generation in its postgame, but its regional dex consists only of Pokemon from Hoenn and earlier plus any evos and pre-evos added in later generations, such as Budew and Roserade.
chuggiedynasty · 1 points · Posted at 14:36:49 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Yup, you're right - I clearly didn't look at the BW section LOL
EpicalaxyMaster · 1 points · Posted at 12:03:54 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
According to GF, they will add pokemon to the dex based on popularity. I’m really curious what they will think is popular and what isnt. Aside from all of gen 1 being in it of course.
Smarag · 1 points · Posted at 10:58:23 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
no this shows the national dex. Regional dexes only have pokemon from their own region at least until gen 4
Zorua3 · 1 points · Posted at 13:01:43 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
You're both wrong. This is the amount of catchable Pokemon in each game. So it's the game's Regional Dex + Pokemon like the ones in BW's postgame or SM's QR codes, and so on.
JShanks1 · 0 points · Posted at 09:19:54 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Funny that Gen IV is generally considered the best/people’s favourite and also has the most even distribution
PictoNoMii · 0 points · Posted at 10:44:45 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Eh? Gen 5 only has new Pokemon in it's national dex.
zjzr_08 · 2 points · Posted at 11:58:47 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Apparently there are LOTS of non-Unova obtainable in the post game.
PictoNoMii · 1 points · Posted at 11:59:38 on July 8, 2019 · (Permalink)
Oh yeah, I forget.