From youtube comments: "looks like they let Dr Doofenschmirtz name this one"
MessrV · 303 points · Posted at 17:13:32 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
You see, ever since I was a small boy, I loved dragons and turtles. However, in Gimmelshtump, we had neither!
HOWEVER, my TORTU-NATOR will allow me to make all of the turtles of the world into amazing FIREY DRAGON TURTLES, AND THEN MY DRAGONTURTLE ARMY WILL TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE TRI-STATE AREA!!!
Typing is Fire/Dragon, thats 3 weaknesses, ground, rock and dragon. the only thing that resists this type combination are a few fairy types.
This thing could actually be really fucking good. Defensive with Shell armor with a special protect EDIT: Clarification, the new move Shell Trap aparently gets planted and deals damage if hit by an offensive move. It has the offensive and defensive typing of Reshiram. Only thing holding this back could be overall bulk and lack of recovery.
This is the german name btw.
Update: English name is Turtonator, just reverse the vowels, mix of the words Turtle and Detonator.
Well it's not like this subreddit hasn't collectively spoiled all aspects of the league already. No mercy for people such as me that prefer watching the dub instead of the sub.
calgil · 4 points · Posted at 18:09:05 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I was actually binging on episodes to catch up so I didn't get spoiled. Guess I didn't binge fast enough. Sigh. Probably won't bother watching until the dub catches up now.
Drokash · 120 points · Posted at 16:59:59 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
RIP Mega Charizard X, the new turtle on the block just showed up to steal your typing
Reshiram says hello.
jugol · 111 points · Posted at 17:36:16 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
To be fair mascot legendaries are often left out of discussion. Rarely added to your story team due of them appearing at the climax or post-game. Rarely used competitively due to restrictions (except this year's unloved VGC format). So they "exist" but if you want a Fire or Dragon (or Fire/Dragon) pokémon in your team you simply don't count on Reshiram.
Drokash · 54 points · Posted at 17:42:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fair enough, I can understand that. Still though, Reshiram did have the typing first.
Reshiram aside though, I'm real pleased to have another fire/dragon type pokemon. I like Charizard X, but I've always wanted a fire/dragon that isn't a mega or a legendary. (I just hope the new turtle isn't a legendary)
It is a nice theory, tho. I'd love to have non-Dragon pseudo-legendary that isn't part Dragon. Dragonite was the first dragon in general, Tyranitar was cool. It all went "downhill" with Metagross being the last non-Dragon pseudo-legendary (introduced in the same gen where there was also a dragon pseudo-legendary.)
I like dragons as much as the next Pokemon fan... but Jesus! Please! At least give me a Fairy or Ghost pseudo-legendary. Please? ANYTHING that isn't a dragon?
I hear ya.
I wish larvesta & volcarona were psuedos too for the "kaijuish" feel that some other pseudos have, plus Larvesta could evolve at level 30 instead of 50 😥 he just skips the pupae stage 😢
I was also hoping to see more Fire/Dragon types. We've finally got a non-version-exclusive-legendary non-version-exclusive-mega Fire/Dragon though, so I'm happy!
vukov · 2 points · Posted at 17:53:40 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Maybe he's avenging Reshiram? Provided that Megas don't return, of course.
arcanin · 41 points · Posted at 16:20:32 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It would be worse fan taunting if they remove Megas from the game after the whole Alain fiasco.
As someone who doesn't watch the anime, can you spoil me what the Alain Fiasco is? Note sure if there's a spoiler formatting inside the comments, tho :(
I doubt they will be removed but it is likely there will be no new ones
Draycen · 9 points · Posted at 21:11:05 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not confirmed either way
vukov · 26 points · Posted at 18:31:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
People suspect that they might be removed. I'll cry, because one reason that I got so attached to Charizard was that it could turn into a Fire/Dragon type.
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 23:43:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Same with my Mawile. She needed a serious buff like mega evolutions and new typings....
While I like how it made some Pokemon finally viable, it created a terrible power creep that can't exactly be helped without removing them altogether. Power creep was always a raising problem with Pokemon, but Megas just magnified it.
Having said that, I doubt they'll be removed, and despite initially not liking the idea of megalution when first announced, I wouldn't really want them removed either. Some Pokemon NEED it to be competitively relevant.
I definitely agree with that. I like what gen 4 did by giving a lot of old Pokemon new evolution to make them more useful all around. Most of the Pokemon with megas like Mawile and Banette really need an evolution much more. Now we might never get that. Even if it turns out they really are gonna retcon megas out (I doubt it, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised.)
They could re-use the designs and base state of the Megas for Pokemon that really needed them as real evolutions. Though, they may be too afraid that would confuse people.
I would personally not mind that, but I know it won't happen as you said. It might confuse people, and many of the mega evolutions have BST that match up or even surpass most legendary Pokemon.
There has to be Megas. ORAS confirmed that Gen6 literally rebooted the series into a new universe with Mega Evolution. It wouldn't make sense to take them out after that drastic an action in the lore to justify keeping them around.
[deleted] · 16 points · Posted at 17:55:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Where did it say it rebooted the series
Namagem · 57 points · Posted at 18:37:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm ORAS, they almost explicitly say that every possible world is in an alternate universe from reach other. There exist worlds without megas, worlds where Pokemon may not even exist, etc
Maybe Sun and Moon take place in the pre-gen 6 universe without megas?
[deleted] · 15 points · Posted at 19:23:02 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
You can transfer generation 1 pokemon from the estore Red, Blue, and Yellow to S&M via pokebank. I like to think that the new universe is the old one from gen 1 and gen 2.
Meaning that the Pokémon between #152 and #251 were newly discovered, and didn't always exist, and eggs are a mysterious new thing that no one has seen before, rather than just a MacGuffin used by the Kimono Girls to bring Ho-Oh back.
Is this really true? If so I'm picking up yellow right now.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:26:43 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nintendo confirmed that Yellow will link to S&M via pokebank.
Quick word of warning, though. Every pokemon can be caught with a combination of ORAS and XY. If you are doing it to get gen 1 pokes, you only need gen 6 games.
Namagem · 1 points · Posted at 08:44:53 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Although, some pokemon do learn unique moves in gen 1, most notably Machamp learns fissure in gen 1.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 14:33:24 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's true, but we do not know how pokebank will transfer the pokemon, yet. It may not allow you to transfer over pokemon with moves that they cannot learn in gen 7.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 12:48:53 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
MatPat from Game Theorists also explained this. Sounds plausible. Maybe this region takes place in a world with only Z-Moves discovered.
"My people know it. From generation to generation, we pass along the lore about the distortions in the world borne by the Mega Evolution mechanism. And about the existence of another world, which we have long observed to be just like this one and yet not the same... That's right. A Hoenn region that's almost exactly like this one we live in. Filled with Pokémon and people like us. A world where maybe the evolution of Pokémon took a slightly different path, where Mega Evolution is unknown... A world where that war 3,000 years ago...never happened. A world where the ultimate weapon was never even built."
This is the exact quote. She literally confirms there's another world where Mega Evolution doesn't exist but the other events are very much the same. Since we know for a fact that the Ultimate Weapon WAS fired in XY, we know XYORAS are in one universe and that at least RSE are in another. It's up to you to sort the other games (though Mega Evolution didn't appear in any of them, so it's VERY LIKELY that they were in the non-Mega universe), but the idea of an AU itself is quite explicit and we know that at least XYORAS are in it. C:
I guess I skipped over her monologue because it was so long and was just trying to complete the end game. And usually the story doesn't have much depth beyond be friends and be happy.
[deleted] · 26 points · Posted at 19:39:30 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
In the Delta Episode Zinnia theorized about another universe containing a Hoenn without Mega Pokemon. This was a reference to Gen III, and basically saying that ORAS and XY take place in a different universe. Similar to the split Zelda timelines.
First Zinnia said that there was an alternate universe where Mega Evolution didn't exist, and then TPC confirmed that Pre-Gen6 took place in the alternate universe.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:27:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I am a casual Pokefan. I have not played a handheld for generations. I think since Diamond and Pearl and even then I was really casual. Also, what is with the Megas being removed shit? That seems extremely... stupid to do.
Megas aren't being removed. When they introduced Mega Evolution they rebooted the series in the sense that the games before XY/ORAS were in a different universe from XY and ORAS, and every game in the future will take place in the new universe. The plots of the other games still happened and are still canon in the new universe, but Mega Evolution was such a significant change to the games that they chose to make it a part of the new universe and a part of previous stories (as shown in Pokémon Origins and ORAS). In ORAS, Zinnia talks about the old games' universe, saying there was another world that was mostly the same and most of the same things happened, but where Mega Evolution didn't exist. The Pokémon Company later confirmed that this was referring to the pre-XY/ORAS games being in an alternate universe.
In fact, they confirmed that Gen 1 and Gen 2 were in a separate universe from Gens 3-5 as well, meaning we have 3 distinct universes for Pokémon and this is technically the second reboot in that sense. FRLG and HGSS were the second universe's telling of RBY and GSC, and ORAS was the third universe's telling of RSE.
I think megas will exist but there wont be new ones. I think the formula will make regional forms part of new gen games and new megas will come in remakes.
I'm pretty sure X/Y still fits into the previous games' universe. Sycamore states that mega evolution is "a NEW kind of evolution that occurs in battle". And since X/Y takes place around BW2, it remains compatible with the past pokemon adventures.
ORAS however is in an alternate timeline for sure, considering how the Hoenn games take place at the same time as the Kanto ones.
Nope, it has to be in the same universe as ORAS because Zinnia refers to the Kalos war 3,000 years ago, which we already know to have created all Mega Stones, having not occurred in the alternate universe. And Mega Evolution isn't new in Kalos, it just hasn't been studied in-depth before. Remember that in the Tower of Mastery it's noted that Mega Evolution has been practiced for generations, which means it's been around since well before Red's Kanto adventure.
While it's true XY indicates mega evolution has existed for centuries as demonstrated by the Tower of Mastery, it also states that there are only examples of it in just the Kalos region, based on Sycamore and Diantha's conversation. Assuming the Hoenn events occured before the ones in Kalos, you'd think they should know mega evolution isn't exclusive to their region, with the E4 and Magma/Aqua using them and all. I know that GF released ORAS after XY, but that's a big inconsistency.
As for Zinnia... even if she's the lorekeeper it's difficult for her claims about the alternate world to hold much water if there's no solid evidence in-game to back them up. Consequently, it's up to the player to decide if what she says is fact or just a shout out to the original R/S games.
erufuun · 20 points · Posted at 16:15:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's gonna be in the post game at least, guaranteed.
Well it's definitely not guaranteed by any means. So far there has been no mention of it, and, considering items are not transferable to future generations, it would be easy for GF to cut it like they did with type gems. It's not official that gyms are gone, but those are just as likely to return as megas are. GF has changed up a lot with this generation. :D
Now, as far as my opinion, I'm glad it's likely that they won't return. I think it's a silly and overpowered mechanic of the game that is really unnecessary. Z-moves seem to be the gimmick of this generation to replace megas, and that will hopefully just be limited to the playthrough. Alolan forms are definitely a better concept overall (even if it's just to appeal to the genwunners), but nothing satiates my addiction like the addition of NEW POKEMON!
I've always felt that Megas, as implemented, were incredibly underwhelming. Basically just taking a list of pseudo-fan favourites and giving them a bit more utility.
I would have personally preferred if they used the Mega system to bring Pokemon who would otherwise be out of meta back into play, the idea of Mega Raticate always amused the shit out of me.
In the Indigo League, he only properly earns half the badges. That's at least four.
Yarzeda · 1 points · Posted at 06:35:39 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Abandon all hope now. Ash is fated to come up short where it really counts because the writers want to use him to teach the lesson of losing with grace over and over again.
Why is it a big deal? The anime always showed plenty of type disadvantaged Pokemon defeating a type advantaged Pokemon. Bloody Pikachu defeated a Rhydon in gen 1 for crying out loud.
EDIT: ok I see it was the final match of the Kalos league. Makes sense then :P
Filsk · 5 points · Posted at 19:22:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
XYZ was really great, probably the best season if you stop watching at XYZ episode 37. Animation is fantastic also, that's a big change as someone who watch One Piece.
Personally, I stopped watching years ago after Jesse and James had the same exact plot every episode to steal Ash's Pikachu. LITERALLY EVERY DAMN EPISODE.
Crooty · 1 points · Posted at 06:16:25 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
They introduced this weird DBZ fusion fucking bullshit and it's terrible
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:44:45 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Since when have types mattered in the anime? Ash beat golem with a charmander when his squirtle couldn't damage it!
Bit of a long shot, but I'm also hoping for spiky shield. Fits his look and would with coverage.
mgmfa · 9 points · Posted at 19:47:06 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It said signature move. That usually means the move is exclusive to that Pokemon until the next generation. This page has a list of moves exclusive to one Pokemon at any point and when they stopped being exclusive.
iandoge · 4 points · Posted at 21:35:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
signature moves (smelling salts, pay day etc) can be bred to other pokemon
Lots of moves on there were egg moves like Softboiled being learnable by Clefairy in gen 3.
mgmfa · 1 points · Posted at 04:00:54 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I guess so, although I didn't look too thoroughly. It doesn't count XD Gale of Darkness moves, since Lugia learns Psycho Boost in that game. I dunno...
mcqtom · 1 points · Posted at 05:06:23 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Everyone seems to be likening Shell Trap to Counter, but I'm thinking it's an awful lot more like the opposite of Focus Punch. Or how about Avalanche.
I'd be interested to see if this thing could learn/use Focus Punch well. Giving it Shell Trap, which covers turns where opponents attack, as well as Focus Punch, covering turns where opponents don't attack, could make every turn a 50/50 with this thing. Granted that every move it used in the trailer was a special attack, so it probably has bad attack, but I think it could be an interesting strategy if it could be pulled off at all.
I wish fairy was weak to fire. It makes sense, since to me fairy = fern gully type and poison (pollution), steel (machinery) and fire are the most destructive forces in nature that can be caused by (evil) man.
I used to love the Fire/Dragon typing (thanks for today, Alain). But, objectively, it's great we're getting access to it outside a legendary and mega-evo. Though I'm interested to see its other moves and its stats, and more info on Shell Trap (like will it fully block the physical move just like Protect then deal the damage).
It has to be hit by a physical move for Shell trap to activate according to the sunmoon site.
vukov · 17 points · Posted at 16:02:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
"Tortunator" sounds more like a French name than a German one. "Tortue" is French, and they like to use the "-ator" suffix a lot in their fictional character names (like with Gyarados' French name, "Léviator").
Still happy, Fire/Dragon is my favorite type combination and now we have three of them!
EDIT: The English name is "Turtonator". Just reverse the vowels.
TheZett · 22 points · Posted at 16:06:21 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
"Tortunator" sounds more like a French name than a German one.
It was shown on the german stream at the german gamescom event in german language. It is most certainly the german name.
vukov · 8 points · Posted at 16:11:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just saying that it sounds more like one.
TheZett · 1 points · Posted at 16:15:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
A lot of german & french Pokemon names are very similar (at least in GEN6 & 7).
vukov · 1 points · Posted at 16:23:10 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's kinda funny how they use the exact same names for Virizion and Terrakion. Maybe the French/German localization teams for BW were in communication or something?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:44:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, first impression is that it's in the Lapras/Druddigon/Heatmor Dex role. It could well have a pre-evo and be more of a Clawitzer, I could see it going either way.
It's based on the mata mata turtle, which isn't supposed to be beautiful, but deadly instead. Look them up! They're so awesome! Their common name literally translates to kill kill in Spanish, they're such excellent predators. I love this new fellow because I really feel like they stayed true to the animal with his design (besides the fire typing and coloration).
Oh wow, it really is ugly as sin in real life... The Pokemon is incredibly accurate but I still hope it's not the pseudo-legendary - I'd much rather have a cool fantasy design like Garchomp or Hydriegon rather than a fugly turtle even if it does look a lot like it's real-life counterpart.
Hmm, I suppose I don't think tortunator's ugly, because the mata mata isn't ugly to me. He is so perfectly adapted to being a murky river bottom ambush predator. They display excellent crypsis (camo) for remaining unseen by both predator and prey, the long nose functions as a snorkle so they can come up for air really slowly and in deeper depths in order to not give themselves away for even a second, and they have that big wide goofy mouth because when a fish comes near they literally open their mouth as wide and as horrifying as possible in order to create a vacuum to suck the prey in before it ever even had a chance. I'm an organismal biology major and I really extra love herpetology, so all these amazing adaptations make them super beautiful, if not derpy looking, to me. Which is why I'm so excited this awesome predator is getting such a respectable and awesome pokemon!
efmaza · 3 points · Posted at 18:12:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Indeed it's really ugly... I hope it evolves further !
Probably will, but it's the same problem with avalugg, torkoal, and most flying types with defog: they can't fill that roll extremely well because of the large weakness to rocks. Not to mention most rock setters are ground or rock type, and so many things learn earthquake, so the setter can very likely hit him for super effective dmg. At least avalugg had recover, this probably won't get anything (though morning sun is possible, so we'll see).
He won't be OU, Garchomp will always be the better defensive dragon type. If both of his defenses are stacked, he might be UU, but that tier has a lot of good fire types that are hindered by their typing (darmanitan and arcanine come to mind). I could be completely wrong though, maybe his hidden ability will blow us away, or maybe his stats will be ridiculously high, we'll have to see
His unique attack would be something among the lines of "shell mine" btw. Panzer means either shell or tank and mine is equivalent to the english term.
ruwisc · 14 points · Posted at 16:11:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's called Shell Trap in the English trailer.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 13:43:33 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Makes me think of a kappa, too.
Kappa are usually water creatures, so seeing one that's Fire/Dragon is quite unusual.
Whereas a kappa has a bowl of water as a part of it's head this fellow has a blast shield.
I also like how it's doing the Mega-Sceptile-thing; it's back is facing the enemy!
Also, I have a (mildly interesting) confession.
When people first started using the word "kappa" to denote sarcasm it bothered me for a very long time!
Imagine if people started saying "bifröst" or "yuki-onna" to denote sarcasm, and you'll see what I mean.
I'm used to it now, though.
Only thing that holds Shell Trap back from being super awesome is that, assuming it works like spiky shield and needs to make contact, the most common physical moves it will face, i.e. the super-effective earthquake and stone edge, don't make contact.
Inb4 they have an episode in the new Pokemon series where a Turtonator is lost and looking for his friend/trainer John (Connor) and Ash tries to help him.
farrise · 1 points · Posted at 23:55:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I feel like this new one is going to be the newest competitive battling tank. I'm not a big fan of competitive battles so correct me if I'm wrong, but damn, just by looking at it, you can assume that
It's not about making every pokemon have a good typing. And a pokemon can have horrible typing and still be good over-all, which is really what I was hoping for.
I don't think you understand just how bad of a type Fire/Rock is though. 4x weak to Water AND Ground, and 2x weak to Fighting. Multiple 4x weaknesses is pretty much always a death sentence.
It was already confirmed on the official site that the type of the Z Move depends on the crystal held and what moves the Pokemon has, the Pokémon's own typing does not matter.
No, you still need to have an attack of that type in your moveset. Hidden Power likely won't work for that since it's classified as a normal type attack that deals other types of damage.
erufuun · 2 points · Posted at 06:53:22 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
But status moves count for Z Powers, seemingly. So we might get Status moves for Z Power coverage...
I'm not sure if that would work but no one knows for sure right now. Someone else in another thread mentioned that when they showed a Z move being selected you first click Z move and then choose a move from your moveset that matches the type of your crystal. This could be how it determines whether it's a physical or special attack and if that's the case it seems that status moves might not fit the criteria. Again, this is not yet confirmed.
Draycen · 2 points · Posted at 16:51:50 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
[deleted] · 264 points · Posted at 16:06:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Information on Turtonator from the English website:
Because Turtonator lives on volcanoes, feeding on sulfur and other materials found near volcanic craters, its shell has a layer of explosive material—mostly sulfur. When something strikes this Pokémon, sparks fly from the horns on its shell, igniting an explosion!
In areas around volcanic craters, this Pokémon camouflages itself as a rock and waits for prey. At the moment when its prey steps onto the back of its shell, Turtonator strikes its shell with its own tail, triggering an explosion!
The explosive blasts triggered from Turtonator’s back are released through an orifice located on the middle front of the Pokémon’s body. This is Turtonator’s weak point. Attacks landing on its stomach will cause it a great deal of damage.
Shell Trap is a move that only Turtonator is able to learn. With this move, the Pokémon can set a trap at the beginning of the turn, and if Turtonator is hit by an opponent’s physical attack during that turn, Shell Trap triggers an explosion that will deal much greater damage to the opponent.
ScurDon · 1 points · Posted at 20:37:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Could be the same thing as Luvdisc and Alomomola, who knows.
Whatever the case may be. I believe this thing right there is the proof that there won't be any other Alolan-forms besides Gen1 Pokémon.
It would've been so easy for GF if they just made an alternate form for Torkoal. The reason could be, as stated in the entry on the website: it ate too much sulfur.
Since he's the only one that can learn it, I think it might be safe to assume that this guy doesn't evolve to or from anything. Maybe he could evolve from something and then can only learn it at this stage, but it'd be odd to me if they introduced a later evolution from the line. And it'd also be strange for a prevo to learn a special move that its later stages couldn't.
Embuh · 2 points · Posted at 00:08:37 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bewear and Mudsdale both had pre evolutions that were revealed after themselves.
Tirtouga and and Carracosta. They were gen 5 fossil Pokemon, and if you picked Archen/didn't use the fossils you probably would've never seen them because few (if any) trainers use fossil Pokemon.
"Shell Trap is a move that only Turtonator is able to learn. With this move, the Pokémon can set a trap at the beginning of the turn, and if Turtonator is hit by an opponent’s physical attack during that turn, Shell Trap triggers an explosion that will deal much greater damage to the opponent."
While Counter is an attack with a certain priority, Shell Trap activates as soon as it gets hit. In Singles and Rotation, this just means that it can counter Circle Throw and Dragon Tail as long as you have a Sub up. But any serious human player should know not to use those moves against a Substitute.
It's more useful in the other battle modes. If you use Counter, then even if you're only facing physical attackers, all they have to do is gang up on you before you can counter. With Shell Trap, you will still counter the first enemy that hits you, as long as it's not a fast special attacker.
Seems like an inversed Focus Punch. Set the trap, your target uses a move, and if you're attacked, it works?
Edit: Yes, it looks like the official site confirmed this! It first sets the Shell Trap, and if its opponent hits it with a Physical move, it uses Shell Trap for "much greater damage" (dunno if this varies, like Counter, or if it's just a really strong move/high power)!
Wow this guy looks nice. His model seems to be taking the Mawile style of looking back, maybe if we get a Musical sort of thing they'll swap his front and back poses like Mawile got swapped.
Shell Armor is nice and Fire/Dragon is cool. Explosive sounds like it gets explosive moves, maybe ballistic moves as well?
Shell Trap doesn't look exactly like Counter, it looks like the attack gets announced first like Focus Punch. But the actual attack is probably Counter, maybe it could be stronger? Hits Ghosts though.
I think that big fire attack on Carracosta was the Fire type Z move.
I wonder if he makes any other face though. He seems to just have the same expression.
Nah, his mouth is the big open hole that is a mouth.
JaXXup · 1 points · Posted at 17:47:03 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why would a moustache be placed under the mouth? Besides, the Pokémon is clearly based on the Mata mata, a turtle with a long nose and a mouth similar to Turtonator's "moustache".
The mustache isn't really under the mouth at all. It's at the same level on the ends and dips underneath and given its a nose-mouth that makes sense. It's in the proper position.
Plus from this gif there's no way that's a mouth, it's a raised line mustache! Unless it ever opens its mouth its a mustache until proven otherwise.
JaXXup · 1 points · Posted at 19:02:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The softshell turtle also has an elongated snout with a mouth underneath, just like the mata mata. I don't know why you're bringing this up.
The mustache isn't really under the mouth at all. It's at the same level on the ends and dips underneath
How can the moustache dip underneath the mouth if it's not under the mouth?
So the issue is we're not agreeing whether the big hole is a mouth or not. I think it is and you are saying it is not.
Fair enough. Agree to disagree.
Also as a side note, it's a fully connected piece so of course it can both be under and at the same level of the mouth. It's just curved under rather than over. But its not fully under it.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:22:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
They do reuse some animations though, so it could simply be Explosion.
Draycen · 1 points · Posted at 00:55:49 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
No trainer appeared behind it. They'd be going through a ton of unneeded trouble to hide a Z move for no reason. It's probably just Self Destruct or Explosion.
It may be like counter where damage varies, or it could be a fixed high damage move like a reverse Focus Punch. We won't know until we get more details.
I'm certain that's not Shell Trap causing the explosion, but it very well could just be explosion.
Honestly the in-game models are so much better than the official artwork this generation. Like when i saw this I thought it was fake, but the in-game model really saves it for me.
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 15:58:53 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Looked cool. And damn, fast. :o
Looks like contact moves might get a recoil-damage effect? He shot something from his shell as an ability anyhow. Neato.
Fire/Dragon typing
Edit: Not an ability. His is Shell Armor. He used his unique move 'Shell Trap' it seems.
Buizie · 7 points · Posted at 17:55:37 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Evolutionarily speaking, tortoises are a type of turtle. The tortoise family is testudinidae, which is in the order of turtles (testudines). So whether or not Turtonator is based on a water-dwelling turtle or a tortoise, it's correct to call it a turtle either way.
Nice to see a type that was only present either in a Legendary or a Mega. It's design is kinda meh, but I like it. Also, Shell Trap is gonna be REALLY fun to use.
I operate with HP draining moves mostly, so having that Corrosion ability would be clutch, but I love dragons and so far I haven't filled that desired slot. I guess it really depends on the water type Pokemon we get this generation because I still haven't found one to fit my future team. Like if there's a water/dragon this gen then I'm going with Salandit 100%!
I'm probably on the same boat. I'd really like if it had a chansey level health pool so shell trap could get a bit of extra mileage (instead of its usefulness being hindered by a high defense, limiting returned damage...if it does operate the same as counter and doesn't have set power) but I don't really expect it.
While I love every single Pokemon revealed so far this gen, I was noticing it's trending a little cute-heavy. Glad this guy brings a more 'monster' flavor.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:21:37 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think it's really ugly to be honest :/ The body proportions are just not attractive, and it's just not a good design to me. Actually, this is how I've felt about almost every pokemon we've seen revealed. I dislike more than I like, which is a shame because we've seen a TON of pokemon revealed. Don't get me wrong, I don't think they're running out of ideas, the designs are just really ugly as of late, which is a shame and weird because we just came out of gen 6 which had some of the best designs I've ever seen
C_Rufio · 0 points · Posted at 17:18:24 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
You don't have to like it, I love it. A lot of people don't like it, a lot of people do like it. That's the wonderful thing about any form of art, it's completely subjective.
[deleted] · -14 points · Posted at 17:06:45 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Me either, Pokémon is really stretching for designs since back in the day.
C_Rufio · 17 points · Posted at 17:21:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah I miss the eggs that turned into a tree, the mime, the pile of purple sludge, and whatever diglett is. Every generation has odd designs.
I feel like the sludge, diglet, and a tree aren't weird at all. Fuck mr. mime though.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 21:19:53 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's not even odd. It's just sloppy. Way to busy, they just threw jagged lines everywhere, copied his shield for his hat. Like wtf is that thing, at least the things you listed had some clean lines and real shape to them.
C_Rufio · 3 points · Posted at 01:10:26 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Idk it's a pretty good representation of a Mata Mata Turtle. Obviously it has features that are more exaggerated because it's a cartoon but it's not far off from a real animal.
What is this things speed? It doesn't look fast which means I'm gonna assume this special move has protect priority or else few things are gonna get trapped.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 16:49:02 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It will probably be the same as protect yes. Then again, Purugly doesn't look as fast as it is.
Yeah but it's signature move working is dependent on the other Pokemon being faster so I'm guessing it will have low base speed.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:56:01 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't think Speed factors in. You set the move at the beginning of the turn. If the opponent uses a special attack, you do nothing. If it's physical, they take damage. Turtonator is shown to take damage regardless, so it doesn't get the Protect effect like Spiky Shield or King's Shield.
Smitje · 1 points · Posted at 20:41:37 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Could still work with Trick Room, maybe?
Arrlan · 3 points · Posted at 16:53:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
TROGDOR TORTUNATOR WAS A MAN! TURTLE!
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 17:53:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not bad, wish it didn't face backwards all the time though
He's a living Claymore mine, that's badass. I was already planning on doing my run of Moon as a mono-dragon, but this will definitely make it a more interesting run.
While I'm optimistic that they wouldn't release the whole thing like this, I won't deny I have the same worry.
nazeki · 2 points · Posted at 20:11:03 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm sure a few will remain a mystery but then again I'm not all that concerned about it either way because with the exception of x/y we already knew about all the new Pokemon before playing thanks to the delay between the jp and na release dates.
X/Y did have alot of reveals as well but final starter stages and a solid batch of new Pokemon remained hidden till the official release. (Or you know... at least till corrupt store employees started leaking)
I'm aware, just pointing out that both are shelled reptilians with long or short necks even though their living conditions vary. As for the Pokemon itself, I got no issue with it. Could be pretty strong.
Just looked it up. I knew I was right. It's name is Torkoal. It would be nice if they would make some more variety instead of having like 5+ electric mouse pokemon.
[deleted] · -6 points · Posted at 18:41:23 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The American Society of Ichthyologists and Herpetologists uses "turtle" to describe all species of the order Testudines, regardless of whether they are land-dwelling or sea-dwelling, and uses "tortoise" as a more specific term for slow-moving terrestrial species.
[deleted] · -10 points · Posted at 18:55:02 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pretty much the same thing it said for Britain too.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:26:05 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
No, turtles and tortoises are classified differently in Britain and America. I though this was common knowledge, but I guess you didn't know that. http://puu.sh/qG2zS/5e3ef608cd.png
British usage, by contrast, tends not to use "turtle" as a generic term for all members of the order, and also applies the term "tortoises" broadly to all land-dwelling members of the order Testudines, regardless of whether they are actually members of the family Testudinidae.
Sounds like they call shit tortoise when it isn't to me.
d_zer0 · 3 points · Posted at 18:26:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Torkoal.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 18:26:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's a tortoise.
d_zer0 · 1 points · Posted at 19:27:13 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
...God damn it.
SenorCe · 3 points · Posted at 19:20:12 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's a mean looking pokemon. It resembles a star tortoise. Man I had one of these guys as pets when I was a kid. Now its a freaking fire dragon. Thanks Nintendo!
It gets a golden button that occupies the left side of the move selection screen, pressing it then takes you to a screen where you select the move that the Z-move will overwrite.
I'm not one to complain about Pokemon designs...but I really don't don't like the look of this one. Something about this is just...idk...off? Maybe it is it's face or how it faces opponents with it's back? I find it ugly.
People always joke about how Druddigon was created by getting loads of kids and challenging them to draw the spikiest Dragon possible. Druddigon was the winner, but I think this new pokemon came second place. It has a better design, but is slightly less spikey
Its making me wonder why they are making these weird dragons. Game freak must be like "and lets make this a dragon." "but thats a turtle." "no, its a dragon.. and so is this." "sir, thats a tree."
Ildona · 1 points · Posted at 20:41:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
They finally added stuff that can keep Dragons in check, so they're going wild with it.
Does anyone else feel like this will be our psuedo-legendary? That or the random one-off stronger Pokemon ala Drudiggon, but I'm hoping for the former.
Xlaxy · 1 points · Posted at 17:53:50 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Holy crap. That's what I thought when I saw him as well.
"Shell Trap is a move that only Turtonator is able to learn. With this move, the Pokémon can set a trap at the beginning of the turn, and if Turtonator is hit by an opponent’s physical attack during that turn, Shell Trap triggers an explosion that will deal much greater damage to the opponent."
Just a counter.
Draycen · 1 points · Posted at 16:34:59 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It may not have variable damage though--maybe it has a fixed high BP. 150 would be reasonable, and make it a reversed Focus Punch or weird Sucker Punch variant.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:51:46 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's like Protect.
gril69 · 1 points · Posted at 15:59:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Really like the way it looks, one of my favourites already out of the ones revealed so far and also some good typing to boot.
Unless GF suddenly reveals a whole bunch of completely amazing new pokemon, I'm most definitely going to use it in my team.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:35:39 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hell yes! This Pokemon looks really interesting! Pretty stoked for this one..
whoa I come back to my front page after reading the comments on that energy for ash post and this is here, didn't see it before. There's a video too! This guy looks cool, very spiky and sharp. Lots of corners and edges. from the comments apparently he has a fire type counter, i guess you can counter ghosts now.
I should watch the video before commenting though. But it's only been an hour ago and wow. First the anime and now this. Nice announcements.
Bmilphy · 1 points · Posted at 17:36:28 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hope we get to see at least one more, I'm not that taken away with this one.
Though trap moves that trigger on certain conditions could be interesting if there're others as well. (like imagine if there's a powerful trap move that triggers when the opponent uses a stat boosting move, or when the enemy uses a super effective move against your pokemon, or when the enemy switches, or when a held item activates its effect or when your pokemon faints or when a critical hit occurs... tons of possibilities that could shake up the meta game. Though maybe it just stays with this one signature move)
Technically Snatch counts as a trap move that triggers when the opponent uses a stat-boosting move. Same for Pursuit and switching out. And there are abilities that trigger when hit by crits. I get what you mean about having the powerful attack instead, but it's not an entirely new concept.
But Pursuit doesn't really "trigger", same for snatch, they only work when you use them and their conditions are met. (though I get what you mean)
I meant moves that you can basically prepare in advance. Like use the move now and then maybe 8 turns later the conditions are met and the trap springs.
The closest I can think of are these delayed attacks like future vision for example, basically a trap move that simply triggers after one turn. Perish song is kind of similar too as it triggers after three turns and not having switched out the affected Pokemon.
Stealth Rock and Spikes are close too since you set them up and they activate whenever an opponent switches in.
I feel like you could really expand on this idea of "trap moves" and it could add an interesting new element to battles, especially when they could be used against common tactics. Though these kind of moves should expire after a certain amount of turns so one player can't just stack on the traps and punish the opponent for everything they do.
Though I kind of doubt this will actually happen and it needs more thought put into it anyway.
See that's what makes sense, but the description specifies if an opponent hits it on the same turn
Edit:. Just looked at the trailer again, there's a complete cut between shell trap and dragon pulse, not even subtle, I'm just easily distracted, or oblivious, or both
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:53:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:28:45 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
About Z-Moves, can any pokemon use any type of Z-Move?
So all pokemon can have 1 pp Hidden Power on steroids ?
Seiryus · 2 points · Posted at 18:10:22 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's apparently tied to the moves the pokémon currently knows. Pikachu used Normal-type Z-Move because it knew Slam. It probably could only have used Gigavolt Havoc instead, as its other 3 moves were electric.
Kinda, but they've got to be able to at least learn one move of the same type as z move, no news on if that counts the same for status moves too, but I imagine they probably will.
Totally with you. I like the design, just not the stance, looks...awkward to me, it looks like it'd barely be able to manage a step without stumbling, kinda like typhlosion really.
so this, next to Salandit are now the new Game exclusive pokemon then? Because when you have trailers exclusively for these pokemon and nothing else, it kinda looks like it.
This gen seems really defensive which i think is great for the meta
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:51:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Thought I saw this dude in the new Kunfu Panda movie...
macj95 · 1 points · Posted at 22:57:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is there any comfirmation on what kind of turtle its based on? When i look at it it reminds me of the Mata mata
Its got the flat head and the snout thingy.
I know, right? Geodude may get upset and angry if you accidentally step on it, this thing just blows you and anyone else you're with into fine meaty chunks.
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[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:32:56 on August 21, 2016 · (Permalink)
Um whatever. Why would mega evolution, alola forms, and Z moves all be in one game? We have seen no new megas or ANY information on it. Theres a Z stone bracelet instead of mega bracelet. Having both megas w Z moves would be way too OP. So no.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 09:48:23 on August 21, 2016 · (Permalink)
So no...what? Were you trying to respond to another comment?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:33:51 on August 21, 2016 · (Permalink)
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:18:03 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Does it's style of battling remind anyone else of Mega Sableye?
aampk · 1 points · Posted at 17:12:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
no, it reminds me of sturdy metal burst aggron
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:17:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I meant how the Sun & Moon website stated that it's weak point was it's stomach and that it battled opponents by using an explosive tactic once it's prey comes in contact with it's shell. So it seems as if the shell would be it's defense?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:16:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
If people want to remain unaware of the new pokes until they actually play the game, it's a spoiler
nazeki · 2 points · Posted at 20:16:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I really do understand how those people feel but at the same time Its really not realistic for people to visit this sub expect everything to be perfectly tagged. (And as others have stated in the past official reveals are not spoilers so if anyone really wants to stay in the dark till release they might want to unsub till they have the game)
I will respectfully disagree with you. /r/asoiaf is a good sub that manages to have varying degrees of spoiler tags. Stuff gets through, I'm sure, but it works for the most part
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:56:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Everything that is officialy revealed is not a spoiler. This topic was discussed here months ago.
Didn't notice this post cuz title is in spoilers. Bad typing for a bad day!
Kate925 · 0 points · Posted at 18:32:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The move Dragon Pulse is still pointed directly at the ground I see. Or in X and Y was it pointed at the sky? Either way it still doesn't seem to be pointed at the Pokemon. When the camera pans over, you can kind of see the move shift up a bit.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 22:30:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
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henne-n · 1 points · Posted at 22:32:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The people, who make the games, have nothing to do with the anime team.
Aiyakiu · -13 points · Posted at 16:11:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I feel like I'm the only person who kinda hates this thing. :/
I really liked 6th gen designs overall, but this thing screams "Gen 5" to me, the era in which I hated the designs of 90% of the mons there. I lament this.
From the front it looks much better. And this is quite reminiscent of a Gen 5 Pokemon, not because it's ugly (and most Gen 5 Pokemon are not ugly) but because of it's design style.
What I mean is, this thing doesn't look much like a dragon, does it?
ZB314 · 2 points · Posted at 16:32:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I can't speak for Exeggutor, but I don't think every dragon type should be designed to look like traditional dragons, like Drampa is clearly going for. At least Turtonator is reptilian.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 09:34:27 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 06:32:42 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes, I've transferred from both XY & ORAS. None of the stones went with them. The games come out in 2 months, if there were mega evolutions I'm sure we'd know by now. They didn't keep mega evolution a long secret when ORAS was coming out, nor did they for XY. Mega evolutions are not in Alola.
Honestly, I wanted to go into the game with 0 info. That got ruined the first time something came out. I'm not salty or upset. Just saying that to me, this is a spoiler and this sub isn't avoiding them anymore
The problem is that a front page completely filled with spoiler tags (as is usually the case when something leaks) isn't really that user friendly either. The belief here is that since this is info purposely released by Nintendo, it's not really a spoiler
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:04:46 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Some people should still be able to subscribe to this sub and not get spoiled. By spoiled I mean learn something about the new game. All it takes is a NSFW tag
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:21:13 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well rules are rules. And I don't make them, sorry.
I'd have liked to go into the game blind myself, I totally understand where you're coming from, but there's a problem with our wish.
We're on Reddit, actually, let's broaden that. We're on a social media site, where information spreads far and wide very, very quickly.
I don't have the strength of will to completely avoid this subreddit because I'm hooked on new information, it's too late for me, but you still have the choice to avoid it. The rule of the sub, decided a month or more back, is that anything officially revealed by Nintendo isn't a spoiler, but fair game. That doesn't work for everyone, that's life unfortunately, and it just means you'll have to adapt because the sub has its rules set and I don't imagine them changing now.
Really and truly, just try to avoid this sub til release day, or until whenever you feel comfortable with knowing the info, people perfectly respect the desire to stay clear of news, but there's too many (myself sadly included) who can't back out now, it's too late for us.
We have boarded the hype train, it is bright and glorious.
Some people should realize that the world doesn't revolve around them, and just because they want something doesn't mean they are going to get it. To try to force people to do something just so you can live in your perfect little fairy world is completely ludicrous, and honestly it's more toxic than the way I'm typing to you.
Now I do apologize for coming off harsh with the several messages I have sent you, but you really need to take a good long look at what you're telling people to do.
YOU want to go into the game with no spoilers. No one else. So if this is the case, why does EVERYONE ELSE have to cater to you?
This kind of shit happens no where else, but the fucking internet, especially for games, and it blows my mind. If you don't like this shit, make a new sub called pokemonnospoilers or some shit.
I don't want the whole sub to change for me. But I do remember them saying they would try to keep it possible to remain spoiler free on this sub. Which it's not. Again, I'm not mad or salty. Just pointing out that the mods/people of this sub are not doing what, IN MY OPINION, they should
Hi there. The definition of a spoiler on this sub means "Anything not officially revealed by Nintendo." We took a vote on this and our users largely voted for this definition.
Even if we tried to spoiler-tag everything related to the new games, it wouldn't work - we're human, we don't catch everything right as it gets posted, spoilers will get through.
I understand what you're saying, but it honestly can't be reasonably achieved. I wanted 0 spoilers for XY, and I had to go cold turkey on reddit and all gaming news sites for months to preserve that. It's really the only way to guarantee you won't see anything about the new games.
Dude, he's just giving you advice. He's not even saying it in a mean way. If you don't want to see spoilers, then this sub is going to be absolutely terrible until spoilers are no longer a concern for you.
Don't blame me, blame Reddit for hosting the comment, matter of fact, let's just blame the internet as a whole, nothing could possibly go wrong with that
Ychip · -17 points · Posted at 16:27:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
eugh... the best designs so far are redesigns of gen1
Baldy17 · -5 points · Posted at 17:38:24 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I still don't get why Vulpix would suddenly turn into an ice type in a tropical region ...
Almost all of the new Sun/Moon Pokemon look hideous. Hopefully I can just catch a bunch of Gen 1/2 Pokemon early on so I don't have to use the new ones.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 21:43:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
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Baldy17 · 0 points · Posted at 00:25:30 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Or I could just play the game the way I want to play it. Thanks.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:02:42 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nothing. What do you mean?
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[deleted] · -4 points · Posted at 23:16:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ick. Bad design.
Looks worse than your average fakemon.
[deleted] · -3 points · Posted at 03:14:34 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Mega Evolution isn't in Alola, if it was then you'd be able to save your megas in PokéBank, and you can't. When you put pokémon with mega stones in the bank the stones get removed. Found this out last night when I was transferring my pokémon from ORAS.
Just means if it is you'll have to refind the mega stones just like going from xy to oras you couldn't transfer it didn't mean it wasn't in the next game. Nothing is ruled out yet
Am I the only one who finds this extremely ugly? It reminds me of that spit fire pokemon from 5th gen that no one liked except even uglier. I mostly like this gen but this guy is probably my most disliked so far.
zetraex · 1 points · Posted at 01:48:29 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Heatmor.
Draycen · 1 points · Posted at 01:55:47 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
These new Pokemon just look more and more like imaginary BS. The original Pokemon looked like animals or were at least based on things that exist IRL. That's what made them likable / relatable.
[deleted] · 13 points · Posted at 21:11:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Please make a list of Pokémon based off of "things that exist IRL", then a list of Pokémon that don't, and compare the two. You might be surprised if you're willing to do some actual thinking and not just complaining.
I'm not bashing on the new gen here or anything, don't get me wrong; but does anyone else just feel the Pokemon designs for this generation are very subpar? There's definitely a few cool ones, and the alolan forms are amazing as well but many of the designs just look so unpolished or lazy. Obviously after 700+ pokemon unused ideas start to run thin, but I'm just not digging a lot of these new guys like I usually do.
10strip · 8 points · Posted at 20:50:40 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ideas running thin? You realize there are over 3 million living species of animals? Then there are plants, mythical creatures, inanimate objects, plus scientific and philosophical concepts as well. Good luck running out of material in our universe!
I personally do not enjoy the new Pokemon, however I enjoy the new Alolan designs, as I said earlier. Just stating an opinion friend. There are obviously many turtles.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 22:21:44 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah that's why I said. I wasn't 'proven wrong' about anything, I expressed an opinion that the designs are becoming stale, once again, in my opinion. Some guy said there's a lot of species, I said I think there's too many turtles. The entire point of my post was the fact I don't like certain designs from this generation. Like there's a good amount of monkeys in the game, obviously they're based on different kinds of monkeys, but maybe we don't need a bunch of different species of monkeys. Personally I'd just rather they do what they did with X/Y and make a few, well designed new Pokemon and expand on the world. I just think the new pokemans look shitty.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:04:48 on August 21, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bruh. There is nothing good about being a weeaboo. A weeaboo is a horrible unhygienic person that bases all knowledge they have of Japan on anime. They renounce their own culture and claim to be Japanese. They speak in broken Japanese all the time and make asses out of themselves by making love to their body pillows.
A person can still be a fan of anime. I am a huge fan of anime. I collect anime merchandise. That doesn't make me a weeb. Don't get these two types of people mixed up.
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Florianopolix · 395 points · Posted at 16:57:35 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
From youtube comments: "looks like they let Dr Doofenschmirtz name this one"
MessrV · 303 points · Posted at 17:13:32 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
You see, ever since I was a small boy, I loved dragons and turtles. However, in Gimmelshtump, we had neither! HOWEVER, my TORTU-NATOR will allow me to make all of the turtles of the world into amazing FIREY DRAGON TURTLES, AND THEN MY DRAGONTURTLE ARMY WILL TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE TRI-STATE AREA!!!
chimchar66 · 30 points · Posted at 02:00:15 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Perry hits Turtonator in his weak point
Doofensmirtz- Curse you Perry the Platypus!
bracesthrowaway · 14 points · Posted at 03:08:57 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Turtonator would definitely use Self-destruct if Doofensmirtz was the trainer.
metalflygon08 · 6 points · Posted at 02:57:09 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Perry the Psyduck
MessrV · 5 points · Posted at 03:40:22 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Perry uses a mirror to reflect moonlight onto Turtonator. PERRY used MOONBLAST!!! It's SUPER EFFECTIVE!!!!!!
WeissWyrm · 12 points · Posted at 01:14:00 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Trogdor was a man. I mean, he was a turtle man. Or maybe he was just a dragon.
BUT HE WAS STILL
TROGDOOOOOOOOOR!
Tylerob1993 · 5 points · Posted at 04:30:43 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
enough updoots and i'll voice this over with a mean Doofenschmirtz impression
kirby31200 · 2 points · Posted at 06:44:47 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Don't you mean updoofs?
MessrV · 2 points · Posted at 13:44:45 on August 20, 2016 · (Permalink)
Only six. Weak
MessrV · 1 points · Posted at 11:12:35 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
RemindMe! 1 day Updoofs for Doofenschmirtz
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JosGibbons · 5 points · Posted at 17:07:19 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Either that or Clemont.
Phoenix_Cage · 2 points · Posted at 11:17:58 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
THE FUTURE IS NOW, THANKS TO SCIENCE!!!
JediwilliW · 1362 points · Posted at 15:57:45 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Jesus christ you are fast.
Typing is Fire/Dragon, thats 3 weaknesses, ground, rock and dragon. the only thing that resists this type combination are a few fairy types.
This thing could actually be really fucking good. Defensive with Shell armor with a
special protectEDIT: Clarification, the new move Shell Trap aparently gets planted and deals damage if hit by an offensive move. It has the offensive and defensive typing of Reshiram. Only thing holding this back could be overall bulk and lack of recovery.This is the german name btw.
Update: English name is Turtonator, just reverse the vowels, mix of the words Turtle and Detonator.
Justyouknowwhy · 440 points · Posted at 16:00:08 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Tortunator learn Blast Burn confirmed
Batchibouzouk · 657 points · Posted at 16:05:28 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's some serious fan taunting from them, releasing a fucking Fire/Dragon today
[deleted] · 174 points · Posted at 16:08:50 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh my god you're right...
NotMichaelsReddit · 40 points · Posted at 20:29:53 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I feel stupid because I don't get it. Taunt about what
Edit: got it. Alain's charizard from the anime
[deleted] · 48 points · Posted at 20:31:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ash lost the pokemon league, to some fire/dragon BS
NotMichaelsReddit · 17 points · Posted at 21:05:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ah gotcha. I don't watch the anime
FractaLad · 1 points · Posted at 04:42:21 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sweet well don't need to watch the ep now!
karelrey · -10 points · Posted at 22:03:11 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, thanks for the spoilers man.
ioasisyumich · 8 points · Posted at 07:15:52 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Because Ash losing the league is a total fucking spoiler. That's definitely never happened before. /s
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 11:53:54 on August 20, 2016 · (Permalink)
Firstly, its all over the sub
Secondly, the guy asked for an explanation
clowergen · -23 points · Posted at 01:06:08 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I got spoilered on fucking Facebook, by multiple people, so I'm gonna spread the word too
hojak · 1 points · Posted at 10:06:36 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Youre just as bad as them
Dragon789010 · 1 points · Posted at 20:33:35 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ash lost to alain
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 12:45:22 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Thanks for the spoilers.
Jk I don't watch the anime.
vukov · 227 points · Posted at 16:12:47 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It would be worse fan taunting if they remove Megas from the game after the whole Alain fiasco.
RIP Mega Charizard X, the new turtle on the block just showed up to steal your typing
Darthownz · 145 points · Posted at 16:18:19 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I love that everyone was dodging the spoiler and you were just like nah lol
[deleted] · 192 points · Posted at 18:51:02 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well if Ash lost, not much of a spoiler.
Rosic · 54 points · Posted at 19:31:08 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Savage
EnderProGaming · 4 points · Posted at 21:02:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
You can say that again.
Memorphous · 23 points · Posted at 17:49:52 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well it's not like this subreddit hasn't collectively spoiled all aspects of the league already. No mercy for people such as me that prefer watching the dub instead of the sub.
calgil · 4 points · Posted at 18:09:05 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I was actually binging on episodes to catch up so I didn't get spoiled. Guess I didn't binge fast enough. Sigh. Probably won't bother watching until the dub catches up now.
Drokash · 120 points · Posted at 16:59:59 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Reshiram says hello.
jugol · 111 points · Posted at 17:36:16 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
To be fair mascot legendaries are often left out of discussion. Rarely added to your story team due of them appearing at the climax or post-game. Rarely used competitively due to restrictions (except this year's unloved VGC format). So they "exist" but if you want a Fire or Dragon (or Fire/Dragon) pokémon in your team you simply don't count on Reshiram.
Drokash · 54 points · Posted at 17:42:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fair enough, I can understand that. Still though, Reshiram did have the typing first.
Reshiram aside though, I'm real pleased to have another fire/dragon type pokemon. I like Charizard X, but I've always wanted a fire/dragon that isn't a mega or a legendary. (I just hope the new turtle isn't a legendary)
Clarknes · 13 points · Posted at 19:25:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well it looks like he will be the pseudolegendary dragon line
queeniewithapeenie · 49 points · Posted at 21:50:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It seems like it would be more like the Druddigon of this generation, not the pseudo
kingjoe64 · 7 points · Posted at 22:54:19 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think the psuedos of this gen are the Saladiit Family. It's already immune to poision types and all psuedo's have at least 1 immunity.
gunnervi · 2 points · Posted at 23:20:29 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
What about Goodra (I guess if Sap Sipper counts)
and Tyranitar(duh, psychic)?Shuckster1 · 2 points · Posted at 00:29:52 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's not immune to Poison type. It's only immune to the poison status.
kingjoe64 · 1 points · Posted at 01:43:31 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ah yeah that's right.
Shuckster1 · 2 points · Posted at 01:48:04 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
It is a nice theory, tho. I'd love to have non-Dragon pseudo-legendary that isn't part Dragon. Dragonite was the first dragon in general, Tyranitar was cool. It all went "downhill" with Metagross being the last non-Dragon pseudo-legendary (introduced in the same gen where there was also a dragon pseudo-legendary.)
I like dragons as much as the next Pokemon fan... but Jesus! Please! At least give me a Fairy or Ghost pseudo-legendary. Please? ANYTHING that isn't a dragon?
kingjoe64 · 1 points · Posted at 02:21:17 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I hear ya. I wish larvesta & volcarona were psuedos too for the "kaijuish" feel that some other pseudos have, plus Larvesta could evolve at level 30 instead of 50 😥 he just skips the pupae stage 😢
Shuckster1 · 1 points · Posted at 02:27:48 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, with how Volcarona was treated, you'd think it was a pseuod-legendary. At least it's still a powerful Pokemon.
I personally would love the idea of a Fairy or Ghost most. Just because of all the potential design ideas alone it has to be "epic" or strong.
ptar86 · 1 points · Posted at 23:52:01 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Do they? What is Goodra immune to?
jugol · 7 points · Posted at 00:00:31 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Shuckster1 · 1 points · Posted at 00:30:41 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Grass with Sap Sipper.
kingjoe64 · 1 points · Posted at 01:42:23 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Aren't both its abilities Sap Sipper and Water Absorb? At keast one immunity depending on the ability.
ptar86 · 1 points · Posted at 01:49:06 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sap Supper, Hydration or Gooey
genoux · 1 points · Posted at 00:22:06 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Plot twist: the pseudo is Drampa. Immune to ghost. I know this probably isn't the case but I love Drampa sooo much.
kingjoe64 · 2 points · Posted at 01:43:22 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
That would be bad ass hahaha. Little baby > young adult > grampa xD
OminousGray · 1 points · Posted at 01:34:51 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wouldn't surprise me.
aaron552 · 1 points · Posted at 02:43:29 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Almost all, and exactly 1:
kingjoe64 · 1 points · Posted at 05:56:03 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Goodras abilities make it either immune to grass or water.
aaron552 · 1 points · Posted at 05:59:49 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sap Sipper does (Grass), but Hydration and Gooey don't. Regardless, it's not true immunity: Mold Breaker pokemon can hit it with Grass type moves
kingjoe64 · 1 points · Posted at 13:54:25 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Regardless, GF gave it that ability to try and give it a natural immunity.
chimchar66 · 1 points · Posted at 01:53:05 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
It doesn't have an immunity. While it still could be a pseudo, they always have had an immunity so far.
CornDogMillionaire · 1 points · Posted at 04:25:49 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Goodra doesn't unless it has sap sipper
iLikeSkitty · 2 points · Posted at 20:28:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I was also hoping to see more Fire/Dragon types. We've finally got a non-version-exclusive-legendary non-version-exclusive-mega Fire/Dragon though, so I'm happy!
vukov · 2 points · Posted at 17:53:40 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Maybe he's avenging Reshiram? Provided that Megas don't return, of course.
arcanin · 41 points · Posted at 16:20:32 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
As someone who doesn't watch the anime, can you spoil me what the Alain Fiasco is? Note sure if there's a spoiler formatting inside the comments, tho :(
MasterSword1 · 60 points · Posted at 17:58:13 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
http://imgur.com/gallery/4gGTp
Batchibouzouk · 240 points · Posted at 18:23:10 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
apology for poor english
when were you when Grenja dies?
i was sat at home watch anim
‘Grenja is kill’
‘no’
8Bitsblu · 52 points · Posted at 19:17:08 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
This comment is a work of art.
Nexii801 · 4 points · Posted at 19:25:53 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's a copypasta
8Bitsblu · 12 points · Posted at 19:33:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm aware
Gelven · 3 points · Posted at 17:39:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I too would like to know.
MasterSword1 · 0 points · Posted at 17:58:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
http://imgur.com/gallery/4gGTp
Gelven · 1 points · Posted at 20:34:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wow.
I don't think they'll get rid of megas but damn...
UncleZeebs · 13 points · Posted at 18:29:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wait, did they remove mega evolutions, or are there just none in sun and moon?
Clarknes · 33 points · Posted at 19:27:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I doubt they will be removed but it is likely there will be no new ones
Draycen · 9 points · Posted at 21:11:05 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not confirmed either way
vukov · 26 points · Posted at 18:31:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
People suspect that they might be removed. I'll cry, because one reason that I got so attached to Charizard was that it could turn into a Fire/Dragon type.
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 23:43:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Same with my Mawile. She needed a serious buff like mega evolutions and new typings....
OtakuMecha · 3 points · Posted at 01:51:12 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
For Mawhile, they could just turn it into a real evolution.
Shuckster1 · 1 points · Posted at 00:35:20 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
While I like how it made some Pokemon finally viable, it created a terrible power creep that can't exactly be helped without removing them altogether. Power creep was always a raising problem with Pokemon, but Megas just magnified it.
Having said that, I doubt they'll be removed, and despite initially not liking the idea of megalution when first announced, I wouldn't really want them removed either. Some Pokemon NEED it to be competitively relevant.
OtakuMecha · 1 points · Posted at 01:52:35 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I wish they'd just give the ones that need to be competitively relevant a real evolution instead of the whole Mega stuff.
And some, like Mewtwo, just didn't really need one.
Shuckster1 · 1 points · Posted at 01:55:20 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I definitely agree with that. I like what gen 4 did by giving a lot of old Pokemon new evolution to make them more useful all around. Most of the Pokemon with megas like Mawile and Banette really need an evolution much more. Now we might never get that. Even if it turns out they really are gonna retcon megas out (I doubt it, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised.)
OtakuMecha · 1 points · Posted at 02:10:27 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
They could re-use the designs and base state of the Megas for Pokemon that really needed them as real evolutions. Though, they may be too afraid that would confuse people.
Shuckster1 · 1 points · Posted at 02:24:15 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would personally not mind that, but I know it won't happen as you said. It might confuse people, and many of the mega evolutions have BST that match up or even surpass most legendary Pokemon.
Batchibouzouk · 13 points · Posted at 16:14:15 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I mean, they said nothing as of now about Mega in Gen 7 unless I missed something
Rodents210 · 55 points · Posted at 17:00:10 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
There has to be Megas. ORAS confirmed that Gen6 literally rebooted the series into a new universe with Mega Evolution. It wouldn't make sense to take them out after that drastic an action in the lore to justify keeping them around.
[deleted] · 16 points · Posted at 17:55:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Where did it say it rebooted the series
Namagem · 57 points · Posted at 18:37:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm ORAS, they almost explicitly say that every possible world is in an alternate universe from reach other. There exist worlds without megas, worlds where Pokemon may not even exist, etc
SassMattster · 33 points · Posted at 19:01:44 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Maybe Sun and Moon take place in the pre-gen 6 universe without megas?
[deleted] · 15 points · Posted at 19:23:02 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
You can transfer generation 1 pokemon from the estore Red, Blue, and Yellow to S&M via pokebank. I like to think that the new universe is the old one from gen 1 and gen 2.
DoomsdayRabbit · 3 points · Posted at 21:00:47 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Meaning that the Pokémon between #152 and #251 were newly discovered, and didn't always exist, and eggs are a mysterious new thing that no one has seen before, rather than just a MacGuffin used by the Kimono Girls to bring Ho-Oh back.
william_liftspeare · 1 points · Posted at 21:38:50 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah but everything from Gen 3 forward can be brought into Gen 6 and Gen 6 is (probably) the only one that takes place in this alternate universe
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:42:55 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Tbh, when it started talking about alternate universes, I started thinking about OR vs AS.
william_liftspeare · 1 points · Posted at 21:50:23 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure it was getting at ORAS vs Emerald
Scrody_Cody · 1 points · Posted at 03:22:17 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is this really true? If so I'm picking up yellow right now.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:26:43 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nintendo confirmed that Yellow will link to S&M via pokebank.
Quick word of warning, though. Every pokemon can be caught with a combination of ORAS and XY. If you are doing it to get gen 1 pokes, you only need gen 6 games.
Namagem · 1 points · Posted at 08:44:53 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Although, some pokemon do learn unique moves in gen 1, most notably Machamp learns fissure in gen 1.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 14:33:24 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's true, but we do not know how pokebank will transfer the pokemon, yet. It may not allow you to transfer over pokemon with moves that they cannot learn in gen 7.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 12:48:53 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
MatPat from Game Theorists also explained this. Sounds plausible. Maybe this region takes place in a world with only Z-Moves discovered.
WhyAyala · 0 points · Posted at 03:14:08 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sounds more like fan interpretation.
FluoriteOnyx · 3 points · Posted at 06:14:37 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
"My people know it. From generation to generation, we pass along the lore about the distortions in the world borne by the Mega Evolution mechanism. And about the existence of another world, which we have long observed to be just like this one and yet not the same... That's right. A Hoenn region that's almost exactly like this one we live in. Filled with Pokémon and people like us. A world where maybe the evolution of Pokémon took a slightly different path, where Mega Evolution is unknown... A world where that war 3,000 years ago...never happened. A world where the ultimate weapon was never even built."
This is the exact quote. She literally confirms there's another world where Mega Evolution doesn't exist but the other events are very much the same. Since we know for a fact that the Ultimate Weapon WAS fired in XY, we know XYORAS are in one universe and that at least RSE are in another. It's up to you to sort the other games (though Mega Evolution didn't appear in any of them, so it's VERY LIKELY that they were in the non-Mega universe), but the idea of an AU itself is quite explicit and we know that at least XYORAS are in it. C:
WhyAyala · 1 points · Posted at 14:46:47 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I guess I skipped over her monologue because it was so long and was just trying to complete the end game. And usually the story doesn't have much depth beyond be friends and be happy.
[deleted] · 26 points · Posted at 19:39:30 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
In the Delta Episode Zinnia theorized about another universe containing a Hoenn without Mega Pokemon. This was a reference to Gen III, and basically saying that ORAS and XY take place in a different universe. Similar to the split Zelda timelines.
Rodents210 · 14 points · Posted at 19:53:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
They also confirmed that RBY and GSC are in a different universe from Gens 3-5.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:27:47 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh interesting thank you
Rodents210 · 1 points · Posted at 19:47:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
First Zinnia said that there was an alternate universe where Mega Evolution didn't exist, and then TPC confirmed that Pre-Gen6 took place in the alternate universe.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:27:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
What's tpc?
Rodents210 · 2 points · Posted at 00:41:00 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
The Pokémon Company
Batchibouzouk · 1 points · Posted at 17:03:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I know it wouldn't make sense, I only said that the Mega weren't mention, and we have no new Mega as of now.
Rodents210 · 5 points · Posted at 17:05:12 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I actually think I meant to reply to the comment above yours, but I'll just leave it.
SpiritMountain · 1 points · Posted at 19:03:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
What? The game universe is rebooted?
I am a casual Pokefan. I have not played a handheld for generations. I think since Diamond and Pearl and even then I was really casual. Also, what is with the Megas being removed shit? That seems extremely... stupid to do.
Rodents210 · 1 points · Posted at 19:52:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Megas aren't being removed. When they introduced Mega Evolution they rebooted the series in the sense that the games before XY/ORAS were in a different universe from XY and ORAS, and every game in the future will take place in the new universe. The plots of the other games still happened and are still canon in the new universe, but Mega Evolution was such a significant change to the games that they chose to make it a part of the new universe and a part of previous stories (as shown in Pokémon Origins and ORAS). In ORAS, Zinnia talks about the old games' universe, saying there was another world that was mostly the same and most of the same things happened, but where Mega Evolution didn't exist. The Pokémon Company later confirmed that this was referring to the pre-XY/ORAS games being in an alternate universe.
In fact, they confirmed that Gen 1 and Gen 2 were in a separate universe from Gens 3-5 as well, meaning we have 3 distinct universes for Pokémon and this is technically the second reboot in that sense. FRLG and HGSS were the second universe's telling of RBY and GSC, and ORAS was the third universe's telling of RSE.
SpiritMountain · 2 points · Posted at 21:27:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Whoa. That is so cool.
Clarknes · 1 points · Posted at 19:27:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think megas will exist but there wont be new ones. I think the formula will make regional forms part of new gen games and new megas will come in remakes.
kalosstone · 1 points · Posted at 01:25:50 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure X/Y still fits into the previous games' universe. Sycamore states that mega evolution is "a NEW kind of evolution that occurs in battle". And since X/Y takes place around BW2, it remains compatible with the past pokemon adventures. ORAS however is in an alternate timeline for sure, considering how the Hoenn games take place at the same time as the Kanto ones.
Rodents210 · 2 points · Posted at 01:50:06 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Nope, it has to be in the same universe as ORAS because Zinnia refers to the Kalos war 3,000 years ago, which we already know to have created all Mega Stones, having not occurred in the alternate universe. And Mega Evolution isn't new in Kalos, it just hasn't been studied in-depth before. Remember that in the Tower of Mastery it's noted that Mega Evolution has been practiced for generations, which means it's been around since well before Red's Kanto adventure.
kalosstone · 1 points · Posted at 05:59:47 on August 20, 2016 · (Permalink)
While it's true XY indicates mega evolution has existed for centuries as demonstrated by the Tower of Mastery, it also states that there are only examples of it in just the Kalos region, based on Sycamore and Diantha's conversation. Assuming the Hoenn events occured before the ones in Kalos, you'd think they should know mega evolution isn't exclusive to their region, with the E4 and Magma/Aqua using them and all. I know that GF released ORAS after XY, but that's a big inconsistency.
As for Zinnia... even if she's the lorekeeper it's difficult for her claims about the alternate world to hold much water if there's no solid evidence in-game to back them up. Consequently, it's up to the player to decide if what she says is fact or just a shout out to the original R/S games.
erufuun · 20 points · Posted at 16:15:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's gonna be in the post game at least, guaranteed.
dynamothrope · 0 points · Posted at 00:43:19 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nope
erufuun · 1 points · Posted at 06:51:57 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
What makes you say that?
dynamothrope · 1 points · Posted at 17:02:00 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well it's definitely not guaranteed by any means. So far there has been no mention of it, and, considering items are not transferable to future generations, it would be easy for GF to cut it like they did with type gems. It's not official that gyms are gone, but those are just as likely to return as megas are. GF has changed up a lot with this generation. :D
Now, as far as my opinion, I'm glad it's likely that they won't return. I think it's a silly and overpowered mechanic of the game that is really unnecessary. Z-moves seem to be the gimmick of this generation to replace megas, and that will hopefully just be limited to the playthrough. Alolan forms are definitely a better concept overall (even if it's just to appeal to the genwunners), but nothing satiates my addiction like the addition of NEW POKEMON!
DaKevbot · 5 points · Posted at 18:20:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Reshiram wore it best
bitreign33 · 1 points · Posted at 22:06:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've always felt that Megas, as implemented, were incredibly underwhelming. Basically just taking a list of pseudo-fan favourites and giving them a bit more utility.
I would have personally preferred if they used the Mega system to bring Pokemon who would otherwise be out of meta back into play, the idea of Mega Raticate always amused the shit out of me.
mjangelvortex · 1 points · Posted at 00:10:10 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Audino, Beedrill, Medicham, Abomasnow, Glalie, and Camerupt would like a word with you.
Jaxck · 1 points · Posted at 07:43:55 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Alain fiasco...?
[deleted] · 17 points · Posted at 16:10:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why does today make a difference?
Batchibouzouk · 47 points · Posted at 16:12:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Because of the Anime
SkeevyPete · 16 points · Posted at 16:21:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
What happened?
Batchibouzouk · 95 points · Posted at 16:24:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Going to mark it as a spoiler to be sure
Kazuja · 61 points · Posted at 18:15:21 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
LeoBattlerOfSins_X84 · 1 points · Posted at 04:04:50 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fire/Dragon isn't weak to water.
WhatSheOrder · 73 points · Posted at 17:32:32 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Batchibouzouk · 32 points · Posted at 17:37:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
kemla · 29 points · Posted at 17:47:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Does Ash ever win? I'm working my way through Gen 1 and it's not looking good.
WhatSheOrder · 52 points · Posted at 17:54:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
iLikeSkitty · 1 points · Posted at 20:29:23 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
SPOILER: Against someone who is a gym leader? Still unlikely. (Does it show as a spoiler for anyone else? I'm a noob.)
rubenblom · 1 points · Posted at 21:15:50 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Spoiler
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:24:18 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well...there was the orange league. Which nobody ever gave a fuck about
And the battle frontier.
herrored · 13 points · Posted at 18:38:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
There are two seasons where Ash wins, but neither of them are League championships that correspond to games.
Nexii801 · 3 points · Posted at 19:28:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'll save you some time. No.
zeekaran · 3 points · Posted at 20:13:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
In the Indigo League, he only properly earns half the badges. That's at least four.
Yarzeda · 1 points · Posted at 06:35:39 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Abandon all hope now. Ash is fated to come up short where it really counts because the writers want to use him to teach the lesson of losing with grace over and over again.
Veteran_Trainer · 0 points · Posted at 20:46:21 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
He's won our hearts! :P
swanny246 · 16 points · Posted at 22:15:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why is it a big deal? The anime always showed plenty of type disadvantaged Pokemon defeating a type advantaged Pokemon. Bloody Pikachu defeated a Rhydon in gen 1 for crying out loud.
EDIT: ok I see it was the final match of the Kalos league. Makes sense then :P
Filsk · 5 points · Posted at 19:22:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
How is the anime, by the way? Is it any good?
Batchibouzouk · 21 points · Posted at 19:25:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
XYZ was really great, probably the best season if you stop watching at XYZ episode 37. Animation is fantastic also, that's a big change as someone who watch One Piece.
thederpyguide · 1 points · Posted at 20:49:19 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Recently started to watch it slowly and the animation really is what's keeping me right now all the battles are a joy to watch
thrwycr · 1 points · Posted at 21:25:44 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
If you haven't gotten to the 3rd gym yet you're in for a treat, easily my favorite battle animation in the series!
Attifire · 2 points · Posted at 03:02:59 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Personally, I stopped watching years ago after Jesse and James had the same exact plot every episode to steal Ash's Pikachu. LITERALLY EVERY DAMN EPISODE.
Crooty · 1 points · Posted at 06:16:25 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
They introduced this weird DBZ fusion fucking bullshit and it's terrible
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:44:45 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Since when have types mattered in the anime? Ash beat golem with a charmander when his squirtle couldn't damage it!
Batchibouzouk · 2 points · Posted at 00:28:33 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
The problem was mostly all the build up and how it ended
PFHedge · 1 points · Posted at 01:28:25 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fun fact: The spoiler doesn't show up on Mobile Reddit.
I knew about the whole shizbang anyway, and I doubt there is anything you can do about it, but thought I'd let you know.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:07:09 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
For once I'm suprised he lost.
Crooty · 1 points · Posted at 06:14:15 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
[deleted] · -4 points · Posted at 18:52:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
People are upset over that? Wow
[deleted] · -6 points · Posted at 16:24:28 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
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AnukTheWolf · 7 points · Posted at 16:31:22 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's certainly the wrong way to write spoilers..
MrAbsolS · 6 points · Posted at 16:18:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's some new level of taunting.
captaindriftless · 1 points · Posted at 18:49:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bit out of the loop, why is that exactly?
mcsmith1003 · 1 points · Posted at 00:37:35 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
More like Tortunator learned water board
nerf_herder1986 · 88 points · Posted at 17:49:22 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hello!
Galemp · 12 points · Posted at 20:17:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hola DEA
OmegaArchitect · 3 points · Posted at 19:47:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Aaaaaaaand there's what I'm nicknaming mine
thank you for the idea, sir
BBQ_FETUS · 1 points · Posted at 23:29:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
NONONO!
WeissWyrm · 1 points · Posted at 01:07:17 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I love you.
blackshirtguy · 1 points · Posted at 01:20:55 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Turtle and Terminator, Clearly after todays Episode, dat fire/dragoons.
ruwisc · 56 points · Posted at 16:06:43 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The English name is Turtonator. Same name, just a different word used for turtle.
Nzash · 37 points · Posted at 15:59:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
And has the shell armor ability, and a fire counter special attack only he has
metalflygon08 · 40 points · Posted at 16:32:50 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hopefully Shell Trap can be bred, Turtle Pokemon need all the help they can get.
lumpygnome · 31 points · Posted at 17:17:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bit of a long shot, but I'm also hoping for spiky shield. Fits his look and would with coverage.
mgmfa · 9 points · Posted at 19:47:06 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It said signature move. That usually means the move is exclusive to that Pokemon until the next generation. This page has a list of moves exclusive to one Pokemon at any point and when they stopped being exclusive.
iandoge · 4 points · Posted at 21:35:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
signature moves (smelling salts, pay day etc) can be bred to other pokemon
metalflygon08 · 2 points · Posted at 02:54:51 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm assuming that list is only for level up?
Lots of moves on there were egg moves like Softboiled being learnable by Clefairy in gen 3.
mgmfa · 1 points · Posted at 04:00:54 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I guess so, although I didn't look too thoroughly. It doesn't count XD Gale of Darkness moves, since Lugia learns Psycho Boost in that game. I dunno...
mcqtom · 1 points · Posted at 05:06:23 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Everyone seems to be likening Shell Trap to Counter, but I'm thinking it's an awful lot more like the opposite of Focus Punch. Or how about Avalanche.
trallnar · 19 points · Posted at 16:14:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ohhhhh it looks so weird but in a good way. Kind of like carracosta and an octorok became a fire type
PineappleSlices · 6 points · Posted at 22:53:46 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It looks like its based on a Mata Mata, which is a weird enough looking animal as it is.
trallnar · 2 points · Posted at 00:02:16 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I was thinking with the long neck and tail and the very ragged angular features that it was a snapping turtle.
Dragmire800 · 1 points · Posted at 21:54:43 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
He also looks part Druddigon
[deleted] · 16 points · Posted at 17:07:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Heatran also resists
JediwilliW · 20 points · Posted at 17:10:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Whoops, forgot that the only reason Reshiram gets by Heatran is with Turboblaze. Thanks!
Zephs · 1 points · Posted at 04:24:28 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Fire is neutral. Steel weakness counters fire resistance. Diancie, Carbink, Azumarill and Mega Altaria are the only ones that can resist both STABs.
FinallyGivenIn · 1 points · Posted at 09:24:46 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Flash Fire on Heatran negates Fire attacks, leaving NVE dragon attacks
Zephs · 1 points · Posted at 16:08:37 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Totally forgot Flash Fire was a thing.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 11:21:44 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
As others have said, you're forgetting that Heatran has Flash Fire ability.
NoOneWhoMatters · 11 points · Posted at 16:49:16 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd be interested to see if this thing could learn/use Focus Punch well. Giving it Shell Trap, which covers turns where opponents attack, as well as Focus Punch, covering turns where opponents don't attack, could make every turn a 50/50 with this thing. Granted that every move it used in the trailer was a special attack, so it probably has bad attack, but I think it could be an interesting strategy if it could be pulled off at all.
kestrel42 · 5 points · Posted at 18:14:35 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
So wobbufet? Or just keep using special attacks.
ElGuru · 45 points · Posted at 16:13:47 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fairy doesn't resist fire. Only some fairies like azumarill and diancie resist this combination.
[deleted] · 53 points · Posted at 17:15:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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ElGuru · 32 points · Posted at 17:19:43 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Correct. That's why it's not weak to fairy.
tsonny1104 · 3 points · Posted at 17:30:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
yes
Fine_Structure · 9 points · Posted at 20:30:08 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
And Heatran.
ElGuru · 2 points · Posted at 20:31:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
My favorite move is fire blast. It nukes so many checks for plenty of pokemon. But I always forget about the chance of heatran switching in.
JediwilliW · 4 points · Posted at 16:16:11 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Suppose not, thanks for correcting me.
kingjoe64 · 3 points · Posted at 22:56:11 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I wish fairy was weak to fire. It makes sense, since to me fairy = fern gully type and poison (pollution), steel (machinery) and fire are the most destructive forces in nature that can be caused by (evil) man.
metalflygon08 · 1 points · Posted at 02:56:03 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
A lot of npcs mention fairies not liking fire, like they were gonna make it weak to Fire but changed their minds late in.
AvatarWaang · 1 points · Posted at 19:21:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
You copied him wrong, he said only a few fairy types. So he was right.
ElGuru · 5 points · Posted at 19:26:19 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
His comment was edited for accuracy after my correction.
EruSugumichi · 26 points · Posted at 16:28:27 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I used to love the Fire/Dragon typing (thanks for today, Alain). But, objectively, it's great we're getting access to it outside a legendary and mega-evo. Though I'm interested to see its other moves and its stats, and more info on Shell Trap (like will it fully block the physical move just like Protect then deal the damage).
JediwilliW · 1 points · Posted at 17:04:14 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It uses what looks to be dragon pulse in the trailer.
VintageGrace · 8 points · Posted at 16:31:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It has to be hit by a physical move for Shell trap to activate according to the sunmoon site.
vukov · 17 points · Posted at 16:02:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
"Tortunator" sounds more like a French name than a German one. "Tortue" is French, and they like to use the "-ator" suffix a lot in their fictional character names (like with Gyarados' French name, "Léviator").
Still happy, Fire/Dragon is my favorite type combination and now we have three of them!
EDIT: The English name is "Turtonator". Just reverse the vowels.
TheZett · 22 points · Posted at 16:06:21 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It was shown on the german stream at the german gamescom event in german language. It is most certainly the german name.
vukov · 8 points · Posted at 16:11:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just saying that it sounds more like one.
TheZett · 1 points · Posted at 16:15:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
A lot of german & french Pokemon names are very similar (at least in GEN6 & 7).
vukov · 1 points · Posted at 16:23:10 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's kinda funny how they use the exact same names for Virizion and Terrakion. Maybe the French/German localization teams for BW were in communication or something?
Sephalia · 2 points · Posted at 00:23:36 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
It reminds me very strongly of Trogdor the Burninator, which just makes it seem like a silly pokemon to me.
For the uninitiated.
vukov · 2 points · Posted at 00:30:07 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
This comes to mind.
Idoma_Sas_Ptolemy · 1 points · Posted at 16:05:02 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I thought more along the lines of the spanish turtoga and terminator. Would fit with his unique mine attack.
SF_Hydro · 2 points · Posted at 18:06:44 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
isn't it just turtle/tortoise and detonator? You know since he's all about explosions.
fe80c0ffee · 1 points · Posted at 20:30:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Tortur is also a German word
[deleted] · 20 points · Posted at 16:01:26 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Looks like a second stage (or maybe fully evolved) pseudo-legendary
TeamAquaAdminMatt · 83 points · Posted at 17:29:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think it looks a bit like a single stage like druddigon
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:40:44 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, that's a better guess than mine. I forgot we had those types of Pokémon.
tsonny1104 · 12 points · Posted at 17:30:50 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
seems more likely to be similar to Druddigon
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:44:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, first impression is that it's in the Lapras/Druddigon/Heatmor Dex role. It could well have a pre-evo and be more of a Clawitzer, I could see it going either way.
Deathmask97 · 26 points · Posted at 16:47:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I really hope not because the thing is ugly as sin...
bucketmusket · 10 points · Posted at 22:00:05 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's based on the mata mata turtle, which isn't supposed to be beautiful, but deadly instead. Look them up! They're so awesome! Their common name literally translates to kill kill in Spanish, they're such excellent predators. I love this new fellow because I really feel like they stayed true to the animal with his design (besides the fire typing and coloration).
UltimateDracoMeteor · 1 points · Posted at 01:12:00 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Now that is a wacky looking turtle.
Deathmask97 · 0 points · Posted at 22:23:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh wow, it really is ugly as sin in real life... The Pokemon is incredibly accurate but I still hope it's not the pseudo-legendary - I'd much rather have a cool fantasy design like Garchomp or Hydriegon rather than a fugly turtle even if it does look a lot like it's real-life counterpart.
bucketmusket · 9 points · Posted at 22:37:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hmm, I suppose I don't think tortunator's ugly, because the mata mata isn't ugly to me. He is so perfectly adapted to being a murky river bottom ambush predator. They display excellent crypsis (camo) for remaining unseen by both predator and prey, the long nose functions as a snorkle so they can come up for air really slowly and in deeper depths in order to not give themselves away for even a second, and they have that big wide goofy mouth because when a fish comes near they literally open their mouth as wide and as horrifying as possible in order to create a vacuum to suck the prey in before it ever even had a chance. I'm an organismal biology major and I really extra love herpetology, so all these amazing adaptations make them super beautiful, if not derpy looking, to me. Which is why I'm so excited this awesome predator is getting such a respectable and awesome pokemon!
efmaza · 3 points · Posted at 18:12:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Indeed it's really ugly... I hope it evolves further !
SpiritMountain · 6 points · Posted at 19:07:07 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I like it. If it was half decent I would put it in my team.
Empha · -3 points · Posted at 18:53:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Legendary, really? This thing is gutter!
newblood310 · 3 points · Posted at 17:47:29 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The problem is, with its fire typing it'll never be an amazing tank, because of the 25% from stealth rocks on entry.
JediwilliW · 5 points · Posted at 17:59:15 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Its a turtle though, so Rapid spin is not out of the question.
newblood310 · 3 points · Posted at 18:33:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Probably will, but it's the same problem with avalugg, torkoal, and most flying types with defog: they can't fill that roll extremely well because of the large weakness to rocks. Not to mention most rock setters are ground or rock type, and so many things learn earthquake, so the setter can very likely hit him for super effective dmg. At least avalugg had recover, this probably won't get anything (though morning sun is possible, so we'll see).
He won't be OU, Garchomp will always be the better defensive dragon type. If both of his defenses are stacked, he might be UU, but that tier has a lot of good fire types that are hindered by their typing (darmanitan and arcanine come to mind). I could be completely wrong though, maybe his hidden ability will blow us away, or maybe his stats will be ridiculously high, we'll have to see
Idoma_Sas_Ptolemy · 6 points · Posted at 16:06:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
His unique attack would be something among the lines of "shell mine" btw. Panzer means either shell or tank and mine is equivalent to the english term.
ruwisc · 14 points · Posted at 16:11:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's called Shell Trap in the English trailer.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 13:43:33 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nope, shell trap
kboyrocks · 4 points · Posted at 16:18:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Looks like a Japanese spirit I saw before.... I don't know what it's called though
Lordcypher23 · 21 points · Posted at 16:57:47 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Was it a kappa? Not joking, there is a japanese spirit called a kappa that looks reptilian/amphibious.
kboyrocks · 5 points · Posted at 17:16:14 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think it is! I remember it being like a turtle with a flat head
SpiritMountain · 2 points · Posted at 19:05:50 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
That is a kappa.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:26:52 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeo thats kappa
FishOnHead · 1 points · Posted at 17:58:40 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's more Golduck's bag. :P
CyberDagger · 5 points · Posted at 19:13:46 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
And Ludicolo. Its alternate version counterpart Shiftry also happens to be a tengu.
PFHedge · 1 points · Posted at 01:29:17 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Golduck says hi.
LordLastDay · 1 points · Posted at 17:36:06 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Makes me think of a kappa, too.
Kappa are usually water creatures, so seeing one that's Fire/Dragon is quite unusual.
Whereas a kappa has a bowl of water as a part of it's head this fellow has a blast shield.
I also like how it's doing the Mega-Sceptile-thing; it's back is facing the enemy!
Also, I have a (mildly interesting) confession.
When people first started using the word "kappa" to denote sarcasm it bothered me for a very long time!
Imagine if people started saying "bifröst" or "yuki-onna" to denote sarcasm, and you'll see what I mean.
I'm used to it now, though.
JediwilliW · 7 points · Posted at 16:19:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
There are a fuckton of them though, so i cant blame you if you forgot.
Besides, we are dealing with fictional japanese animals, not historically inaccurate japanese spirits.
rhymenoceros911 · 2 points · Posted at 17:42:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Kappa, probably. I thought the same thing.
AndyLC · 1 points · Posted at 17:47:46 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well he's a soft shell turtle with that snout, and you could say the top of Turtonator's head is kinda like a jingasa
Brontozaurus · 1 points · Posted at 20:40:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's a bit of a kappa though to me it looks a lot like a mata mata turtle. The snout gives it away.
PineappleSlices · 1 points · Posted at 22:54:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Its most likely based on a Mata Mata.
gorocz · 2 points · Posted at 07:06:51 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Thank god, for a second I though it was a torture pokémon...
JoeDelVek · 3 points · Posted at 16:17:15 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Only thing that holds Shell Trap back from being super awesome is that, assuming it works like spiky shield and needs to make contact, the most common physical moves it will face, i.e. the super-effective earthquake and stone edge, don't make contact.
JediwilliW · 10 points · Posted at 16:18:43 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
From what i see from the trailer, Turtonator still takes damage, then activates the Shell Trap.
JoeDelVek · 6 points · Posted at 16:27:13 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm saying that neither earthquake nor stone edge make the "contact" that may be required for she'll trap to trigger.
VintageGrace · 18 points · Posted at 16:33:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Site says it just needs to be physical, not contact.
trallnar · 4 points · Posted at 16:26:50 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Looks more like counter, where it needs a physical move rather than contact. We won't know for sure until more is said, though
Mr_Wut8794 · 1 points · Posted at 17:09:23 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
What about water?
JediwilliW · 2 points · Posted at 17:11:11 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Gets assblasted by draconic meteors
Mr_Wut8794 · 1 points · Posted at 17:23:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Given turtonator has a decent Sp.attk
MidnyteSketch · 1 points · Posted at 17:13:35 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The German one is better, sounds like torture and terminator which is probably what you're in for if you battle this mon.
JediwilliW · 3 points · Posted at 17:21:39 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
i am ze Torturnator
Isomniac · 1 points · Posted at 18:05:11 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
run a quag-turtonator core rip lol
ariwake · 1 points · Posted at 18:48:39 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm just going to pronounce it in a really big Terminator like voice
Sciartion · 1 points · Posted at 19:58:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It receives normal damage from Fairy and Ice and can hit the steels with fire. Good day for dragon trainers.
Sburke96 · 1 points · Posted at 20:21:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Inb4 they have an episode in the new Pokemon series where a Turtonator is lost and looking for his friend/trainer John (Connor) and Ash tries to help him.
Retsevlys · 1 points · Posted at 20:27:43 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Terminator
PanfiloVilla · 1 points · Posted at 20:43:03 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
And I'm sitting here thinking of turtle + terminator
bLbGoldeN · 1 points · Posted at 21:20:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Uh, no, clearly it's a mix of Turtle and Terminator, considering how badass this thing is looking so far.
TheFrodo · 1 points · Posted at 21:35:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I thought it was toreador, like the bullfighter
Trainer_Kevin · 1 points · Posted at 21:45:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fire/Dragon, like Charizard X?
farrise · 1 points · Posted at 23:55:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I feel like this new one is going to be the newest competitive battling tank. I'm not a big fan of competitive battles so correct me if I'm wrong, but damn, just by looking at it, you can assume that
Animal31 · 1 points · Posted at 00:38:22 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Its a Fire Type
We dont need no bulk and recovery
ahaisonline · 1 points · Posted at 00:50:59 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I assume Turtonator is pronounced turd-inator.
Ejgamer · 1 points · Posted at 02:57:23 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Mine Turtle anyone?
Rift_world · 1 points · Posted at 05:57:40 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Isn't fairy strong against it or are there none in the new gen?
JediwilliW · 1 points · Posted at 06:12:29 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fire resists Fairy, so no.
Rift_world · 1 points · Posted at 06:17:42 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Good to know, thanks
Xeroshifter · 1 points · Posted at 16:21:23 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I wanted so badly for it to be Fire/Rock :(
pk-starstorm · 5 points · Posted at 16:24:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fire/Rock is a terrible type though. Fire/Dragon is far superior
Xeroshifter · 5 points · Posted at 16:28:16 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's not about making every pokemon have a good typing. And a pokemon can have horrible typing and still be good over-all, which is really what I was hoping for.
pk-starstorm · 5 points · Posted at 16:38:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't think you understand just how bad of a type Fire/Rock is though. 4x weak to Water AND Ground, and 2x weak to Fighting. Multiple 4x weaknesses is pretty much always a death sentence.
ThickCars · 123 points · Posted at 16:04:07 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I love how the comments section on the YouTube stream went crazy when this Pokemon was shown!
They even showed the Z-Moves interface if anyone is interested!
Hanimetion · 55 points · Posted at 16:06:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Including the normal type Z-Move.
gril69 · 3 points · Posted at 16:14:10 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
pikachu used it tho.
Hanimetion · 60 points · Posted at 16:15:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It was already confirmed on the official site that the type of the Z Move depends on the crystal held and what moves the Pokemon has, the Pokémon's own typing does not matter.
Zapdos678 · 40 points · Posted at 16:34:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wait so it's basically a uber hidden power that uses your item slot?
GWGatherer · 60 points · Posted at 17:05:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's more like the type gems from gen 5 on steroids.
ToaLewa · 8 points · Posted at 17:36:07 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
That is actually really accurate...
EpicalaxyMaster · 1 points · Posted at 21:11:39 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
On X attack.
FTFY
Thunder_2414 · 5 points · Posted at 17:45:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
And only one use per battle
DirtyDan257 · 4 points · Posted at 19:46:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
No, you still need to have an attack of that type in your moveset. Hidden Power likely won't work for that since it's classified as a normal type attack that deals other types of damage.
erufuun · 2 points · Posted at 06:53:22 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
But status moves count for Z Powers, seemingly. So we might get Status moves for Z Power coverage...
DirtyDan257 · 1 points · Posted at 15:11:59 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm not sure if that would work but no one knows for sure right now. Someone else in another thread mentioned that when they showed a Z move being selected you first click Z move and then choose a move from your moveset that matches the type of your crystal. This could be how it determines whether it's a physical or special attack and if that's the case it seems that status moves might not fit the criteria. Again, this is not yet confirmed.
Draycen · 2 points · Posted at 16:51:50 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yep
EpicalaxyMaster · 2 points · Posted at 21:10:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh, I thought it was going to depend on the user's first type.
I guess that would make too much sense.
electrogamerman · 9 points · Posted at 17:48:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Where did they show that?
Rhynasty · -1 points · Posted at 20:20:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pikachu used the move Hyper Sprint during BR.
Zemedelphos · 5 points · Posted at 20:29:01 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The heck's "BR"?
-ItWasntMe- · 6 points · Posted at 20:57:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Battle Royale
electrogamerman · 3 points · Posted at 22:23:32 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The heck is that
sevendeadlydwarves · 4 points · Posted at 23:53:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
4 way free for all battles. Winner is the one with the most KOs before one player loses all 3 of their Pokemon.
Rhynasty · 2 points · Posted at 00:02:23 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Battle Royale
[deleted] · 264 points · Posted at 16:06:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Information on Turtonator from the English website:
Because Turtonator lives on volcanoes, feeding on sulfur and other materials found near volcanic craters, its shell has a layer of explosive material—mostly sulfur. When something strikes this Pokémon, sparks fly from the horns on its shell, igniting an explosion!
In areas around volcanic craters, this Pokémon camouflages itself as a rock and waits for prey. At the moment when its prey steps onto the back of its shell, Turtonator strikes its shell with its own tail, triggering an explosion!
The explosive blasts triggered from Turtonator’s back are released through an orifice located on the middle front of the Pokémon’s body. This is Turtonator’s weak point. Attacks landing on its stomach will cause it a great deal of damage.
Shell Trap is a move that only Turtonator is able to learn. With this move, the Pokémon can set a trap at the beginning of the turn, and if Turtonator is hit by an opponent’s physical attack during that turn, Shell Trap triggers an explosion that will deal much greater damage to the opponent.
Source: http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/turtonator/
HollowPanda · 212 points · Posted at 16:10:30 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
So it's a land mine? That's pretty fucked up lmao
CaribbeanRockIguana · 251 points · Posted at 16:27:40 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
literally mineturtle
metalflygon08 · 97 points · Posted at 16:34:23 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hello
winterjam010 · 55 points · Posted at 17:00:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
explosion
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 03:52:27 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
asdf
oceano7 · 13 points · Posted at 19:09:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
hello!
ftfy
Grandmaster_C · 44 points · Posted at 16:42:19 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I wish it were related to Torkoal.
ScurDon · 1 points · Posted at 20:37:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Could be the same thing as Luvdisc and Alomomola, who knows.
Whatever the case may be. I believe this thing right there is the proof that there won't be any other Alolan-forms besides Gen1 Pokémon. It would've been so easy for GF if they just made an alternate form for Torkoal. The reason could be, as stated in the entry on the website: it ate too much sulfur.
I'm slightly upset...
Grandmaster_C · 3 points · Posted at 20:47:55 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, new evolutions for existing Pokemon would be nice.
Xkrivia · 24 points · Posted at 17:33:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sounds like the Pokemon version of Brachydios
Slender0123 · 6 points · Posted at 19:30:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Except turtonators bro fist will never be as epic
DefiantTheLion · 1 points · Posted at 21:37:35 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Might get Dynamicpunch.
Slender0123 · 1 points · Posted at 01:31:47 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I imagine explosion might be in there too lol
zeekaran · 3 points · Posted at 20:14:26 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
So it's a monster from Monster Hunter, clearly.
thecastroregime · 8 points · Posted at 17:54:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Since he's the only one that can learn it, I think it might be safe to assume that this guy doesn't evolve to or from anything. Maybe he could evolve from something and then can only learn it at this stage, but it'd be odd to me if they introduced a later evolution from the line. And it'd also be strange for a prevo to learn a special move that its later stages couldn't.
Embuh · 2 points · Posted at 00:08:37 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bewear and Mudsdale both had pre evolutions that were revealed after themselves.
CerberusC24 · 1 points · Posted at 21:08:03 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pichu is born with Volt Tackle if Pikachu breeds with a light ball. I don't think Pikachu or Raichu learn it.
Timoris · 1 points · Posted at 19:17:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Shell trap is a Priority move?
Will it go before Quick Attack or Shadow Sneak?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:20:53 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
We don't know which priority tier this move falls under.
However, Powder, a move that operates in nearly the same way, has +1 priority so that is the most likely tier for Shell Trap.
Imperial_Gold · 1 points · Posted at 20:03:14 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Game Freak and Nintendo have been watching way too much Konosuba
Gochris10 · 69 points · Posted at 16:33:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
He's got that Pingu face
NOOT NOOT
saxclar1025 · 4 points · Posted at 20:33:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Came here for this, thank you! I'm not the only one.
xxlittlemissxx · 2 points · Posted at 20:34:30 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
There's the comment I was looking for!
11Slimeade11 · 370 points · Posted at 15:57:52 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
BOWSER CONFIRMED
Calder027 · 47 points · Posted at 16:03:26 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd lean more towards Tokka... quick, someone get fire extinguishers!
Thingamajillion · 13 points · Posted at 18:23:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Make sure it doesn't eat the traditional pre-fight donut!
MAlsauce · 2 points · Posted at 20:55:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Its always a good day when I see TMNT 2: The Secret of the Ooze references
Classtoise · 2 points · Posted at 21:53:22 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Now I need to see what Rockruff evolves into.
And I'll name them both "The Ugly One"
metalflygon08 · 1 points · Posted at 02:57:36 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rahzar
Ardub23 · 2 points · Posted at 21:57:40 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
We already had Chesnaught and Blastoise, so this completes the trio of elemental Bowsers.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:06:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would say you called but i dont use bowserman1 as my raddit anymore
Cthuluigi · 1 points · Posted at 23:36:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well now I'm definitely using this dude on my team.
Shuckster1 · 1 points · Posted at 04:56:33 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
It also learns Self Destruct/Explosion.
We Bowsercide now.
MilkyWhite22 · 1 points · Posted at 23:49:41 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
"I don't know why people say I'm typed like bowser"
dylrocks95 · 362 points · Posted at 16:02:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
English trailer
gril69 · 144 points · Posted at 16:06:52 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Turtonator lmao
UltimateGengar · 275 points · Posted at 16:48:32 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sounds like a Doofenshmirtz invention.
kpecc99 · 128 points · Posted at 16:54:06 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The weak point on its stomach a self destruct button.
metalflygon08 · 123 points · Posted at 17:00:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Curse you Perry the Psyduck!
1stLtObvious · 8 points · Posted at 00:58:10 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Alolan form Perry the Platypus: Larry the Ludicolo!
Cyberguy64 · 3 points · Posted at 07:09:27 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
*Perry the Pineapple.
McShalepants · 14 points · Posted at 19:53:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Mine Turtle!
Hello!
MilitantRabbit · 3 points · Posted at 20:05:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Throw the cheeeeeeeeeese!
Bwgmon · 42 points · Posted at 17:20:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
With the Turtonator-ator, I'll be able to rule over the entire turtle population of the tri-state area!
Empha · 13 points · Posted at 18:55:24 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The tri-region area!
Classtoise · 53 points · Posted at 17:14:50 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Doofenshmirtz Evil Incorporateeeeeeed
WhatSheOrder · 13 points · Posted at 17:30:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
AmBozz · 3 points · Posted at 19:01:07 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Watch your metric.
Charliek4 · 9 points · Posted at 18:31:16 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
http://imgur.com/a/Go92j
madsci954 · 17 points · Posted at 16:15:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I AM THE TURTONATOR!! I WILL WHIP YOU PUNY POKÉMON INTO SHAPE!!!
rainfall-kiwi · 344 points · Posted at 16:31:23 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I like how it only fights turtle Pokemons in the trailer
StormCrow1770 · 142 points · Posted at 16:58:12 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Turtle Terminator
JoJoX200 · 10 points · Posted at 19:31:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Talk to the shell!
Hattless · -1 points · Posted at 17:36:39 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Cyberfire · 42 points · Posted at 17:32:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Moving ever closer to having an entire Turtle/Tortoise Dex!
Durzo_Blint · 64 points · Posted at 18:56:29 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
How close are we to having a full turtle team?
Blastoise
Torterra
Torkoal
Carracosta
Avalugg
Tortunator
TapatioPapi · 124 points · Posted at 20:32:35 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Avalugg is a little bit of a stretch. I thought he was in the coffee table egg group?
themangosteve · 58 points · Posted at 20:39:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Replace Avalugg with Shuckle
[deleted] · 12 points · Posted at 22:23:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
He's like a mole thing.
Shuckster1 · 14 points · Posted at 00:43:05 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Are we talking about Shuckle?
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 00:58:13 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Mold. My bad
Delzethin · 2 points · Posted at 02:54:30 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Shuckle's more of a slime mold inhabiting a rock, though.
themangosteve · -2 points · Posted at 03:31:37 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
RIP my inbox. I stand corrected, Shuckle's a moldy...rocky...thing. How about replacing Avalugg with Lapras instead?
Condomonium · -5 points · Posted at 22:21:01 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
*barf*
terretsforever · 1 points · Posted at 17:31:37 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
This might be a dumb question, but what was that second/third turtle it fought? The one that wasn't torkoal looked entirely unfamiliar to me
jackisano · 10 points · Posted at 17:36:15 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Carracosta, one of the fossils from gen 5.
terretsforever · 1 points · Posted at 17:46:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Good to know!
metalflygon08 · 1 points · Posted at 02:59:39 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
The counterpart to the Protobird Pokemon Archen
phort99 · 3 points · Posted at 17:36:43 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Tirtouga and Carracosta, from Black/White version
terretsforever · 1 points · Posted at 17:46:06 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh good to know, thanks!
SoulsteelNA · 3 points · Posted at 17:37:23 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Tirtuga was the little one, and the next one was Carracosta, its evolution.
terretsforever · 1 points · Posted at 17:45:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
They look really cool, thanks a lot.
metalflygon08 · 1 points · Posted at 03:00:30 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
They are pretty rad and have access to the amazing but rare move Shell Smash, where they trade defense for a huge boost to offense and speed.
terretsforever · 1 points · Posted at 03:05:54 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh that's pretty neat
otterguy12 · 2 points · Posted at 17:37:45 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Tirtouga and and Carracosta. They were gen 5 fossil Pokemon, and if you picked Archen/didn't use the fossils you probably would've never seen them because few (if any) trainers use fossil Pokemon.
terretsforever · 1 points · Posted at 17:45:22 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ah, ok, I skipped Gen 5 so it makes sense I haven't seen them before, thanks s lot!
ButtPoltergeist · 1 points · Posted at 17:37:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Tirtouga and Carracosta
Water/Rock types and the Omanyte/Omastar of Gen V
terretsforever · 2 points · Posted at 17:45:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh, neato, thanks!
syuvial · 1 points · Posted at 17:38:06 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
thats a tirtouga
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Tirtouga_(Pok%C3%A9mon)
terretsforever · 1 points · Posted at 17:44:39 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Thanks!
sabett · 1 points · Posted at 17:57:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes lol, what was with that dominance move?
SidewaysInfinity · 1 points · Posted at 00:38:12 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's a shell of a trailer
Soggy_Chewbacca · 18 points · Posted at 16:07:11 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
So is there any info on what shell trap does?
dylrocks95 · 133 points · Posted at 16:15:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Its official page is up.
sigismond0 · 104 points · Posted at 16:22:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
So it's just a variant of Counter.
FierceDeityKong · 21 points · Posted at 19:02:06 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
While Counter is an attack with a certain priority, Shell Trap activates as soon as it gets hit. In Singles and Rotation, this just means that it can counter Circle Throw and Dragon Tail as long as you have a Sub up. But any serious human player should know not to use those moves against a Substitute.
It's more useful in the other battle modes. If you use Counter, then even if you're only facing physical attackers, all they have to do is gang up on you before you can counter. With Shell Trap, you will still counter the first enemy that hits you, as long as it's not a fast special attacker.
Texan_Terror · 9 points · Posted at 18:28:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It looks more similar to Powder, to be honest.
A3thers · 48 points · Posted at 16:23:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
So basically fire type counter/metal burst hybrid
sigismond0 · 23 points · Posted at 16:34:07 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Looks exactly like counter to me. Metal Burst hits both physical and special.
A3thers · 1 points · Posted at 17:24:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
You're right. I couldn't remember if counter doubled the damage or just metal burst did.
Algosaubi · 10 points · Posted at 16:28:29 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
So basically Counter?
metalflygon08 · 24 points · Posted at 16:33:53 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
But better as it has priority it seems.
[deleted] · 10 points · Posted at 17:11:08 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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PikaBlue · 13 points · Posted at 18:30:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Except better because unlike counter Turtanator doesn't need to be alive to complete the move
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:49:53 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Does it say anywhere that Shell Trap still activates if the user is knocked out during that turn? It makes sense flavor-wise that it would.
syuvial · 1 points · Posted at 17:40:06 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
rip in peace aegislash
FluoriteOnyx · 19 points · Posted at 16:10:03 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Seems like an inversed Focus Punch. Set the trap, your target uses a move, and if you're attacked, it works?
Edit: Yes, it looks like the official site confirmed this! It first sets the Shell Trap, and if its opponent hits it with a Physical move, it uses Shell Trap for "much greater damage" (dunno if this varies, like Counter, or if it's just a really strong move/high power)!
domeforaklondikebar · 21 points · Posted at 16:19:46 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fire type Counter.
sigismond0 · 2 points · Posted at 16:35:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Like a reverse Sucker Punch maybe--fails if they don't attack, hits hard after they do.
Gyoin · 1 points · Posted at 17:30:55 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sucker Punch works on all damaging attacks, not just physical though.
sigismond0 · 4 points · Posted at 17:31:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Florianopolix · 2 points · Posted at 16:32:44 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
What are the other two moves used in the trailer?
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 17:12:24 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Looks like Dragon Pulse and possibly Explosion.
Florianopolix · 1 points · Posted at 17:14:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Thanks
Classtoise · 1 points · Posted at 17:15:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
LOOKS Like just Dragon Pulse (only not aimed up for whatever reason) and Explosion.
flameduck · 1 points · Posted at 17:41:28 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wow this guy looks nice. His model seems to be taking the Mawile style of looking back, maybe if we get a Musical sort of thing they'll swap his front and back poses like Mawile got swapped.
Shell Armor is nice and Fire/Dragon is cool. Explosive sounds like it gets explosive moves, maybe ballistic moves as well?
Shell Trap doesn't look exactly like Counter, it looks like the attack gets announced first like Focus Punch. But the actual attack is probably Counter, maybe it could be stronger? Hits Ghosts though.
I think that big fire attack on Carracosta was the Fire type Z move.
I wonder if he makes any other face though. He seems to just have the same expression.
fuzzball909 · 1 points · Posted at 23:34:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Game Freak are really spoiling us with all these sneak peeks, I think it's been 2 in a week now?
Sixchr · 127 points · Posted at 16:00:01 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Can we sacrifice it to the Anime Gods?
MegaMissingno · 91 points · Posted at 16:05:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
BURNDROWN THE FIRE/DRAGONJoeDelVek · 116 points · Posted at 16:13:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Mmm well apparently we've learned water doesn't work well enough on fire/dragon...
Montem_ · 59 points · Posted at 16:20:39 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
STONE THE FIRE/DRAGON
Shuckster1 · 6 points · Posted at 00:47:55 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I THINK WE NEED DRAMPA TO HELP US WITH THAT
TheMuon · 1 points · Posted at 04:02:17 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
NO ONE IS TO STONE ANYONE UNTIL I BLOW THIS WHISTLE! DO YOU UNDERSTAND?!
MegaMissingno · 49 points · Posted at 16:22:53 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT WATER? I WAS GOING TO DROWN IT IN ROCKS
Gooeyguy188 · 9 points · Posted at 16:20:52 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
THROW SOME ROCKS AT IT INSTEAD THEN!
CelioHogane · 16 points · Posted at 17:34:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
TELL HIM HIS MOTHER IS ALIVE, THAT NORMALLY WEAKENS ANIME PROTAGONISTS.
MrAbsolS · 3 points · Posted at 16:24:22 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
THROW IT INTO A PIT WITH GARCHOMP, IT'S QUAD EFFECTIVE AGAINST IT !
Justyouknowwhy · 9 points · Posted at 16:36:52 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Garchomp doesn't work on it, the anime already proved that twice :(
somasora7 · 13 points · Posted at 16:47:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Mega Zard X does literally whatever it wants in the anime. If you're not a Mega Blastoise or a fucking legendary, don't even bother
SidewaysInfinity · 3 points · Posted at 00:44:21 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I hope Tobias shows up and wrecks Alain's shit.
Luginub · 2 points · Posted at 17:41:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Didn't zygarde lose to mega zard as well?
MrAbsolS · 2 points · Posted at 19:20:23 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The only thing that can stop this thing is Mega Mewtwo/Ray.
_Falgor_ · 1 points · Posted at 00:54:01 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Next time, Tobias will return VS Alain, Mega Zard X will erase his whole team somehow.
xanplease · 2 points · Posted at 19:02:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Too soon
Crooty · 1 points · Posted at 06:18:05 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Remember that time Pikachu beat Rhydon, a ground type, with an electric move?
EpicalaxyMaster · 1 points · Posted at 21:12:01 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Who are the anime gods?
Toidiedud · 56 points · Posted at 16:05:39 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I love its Waluigi mustache.
[deleted] · 71 points · Posted at 16:07:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Expected a new Pokemon?
TOO BAD, WALUIGI TIME
pilgrimz · 16 points · Posted at 16:23:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wah ah ah!
95Mb · 12 points · Posted at 16:41:22 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
DON"T BELIEVE ME? JUST WAHHHHH
ZB314 · 2 points · Posted at 16:27:55 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
WAAHHH
JaXXup · 1 points · Posted at 17:31:52 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think that's the mouth.
Toidiedud · 2 points · Posted at 17:39:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nah, his mouth is the big open hole that is a mouth.
JaXXup · 1 points · Posted at 17:47:03 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why would a moustache be placed under the mouth? Besides, the Pokémon is clearly based on the Mata mata, a turtle with a long nose and a mouth similar to Turtonator's "moustache".
Toidiedud · 1 points · Posted at 18:34:32 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
But its also clearly taking inspiration from a softshell turtle.
The mustache isn't really under the mouth at all. It's at the same level on the ends and dips underneath and given its a nose-mouth that makes sense. It's in the proper position.
Plus from this gif there's no way that's a mouth, it's a raised line mustache! Unless it ever opens its mouth its a mustache until proven otherwise.
JaXXup · 1 points · Posted at 19:02:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The softshell turtle also has an elongated snout with a mouth underneath, just like the mata mata. I don't know why you're bringing this up.
How can the moustache dip underneath the mouth if it's not under the mouth?
Toidiedud · 2 points · Posted at 20:50:28 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
So the issue is we're not agreeing whether the big hole is a mouth or not. I think it is and you are saying it is not.
Fair enough. Agree to disagree.
Also as a side note, it's a fully connected piece so of course it can both be under and at the same level of the mouth. It's just curved under rather than over. But its not fully under it.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:22:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
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Toidiedud · 2 points · Posted at 23:19:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the big gaping mouth tube hole is its mouth.
Shuckster1 · 1 points · Posted at 00:49:48 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
After reading it, I saw it. Now I can't unsee it.
UltimateDracoMeteor · 1 points · Posted at 01:15:57 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is that a mustache? I thought it was its mouth.
yaheh · 86 points · Posted at 15:59:06 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bristleback confirmed.
The4thSniper · 24 points · Posted at 16:06:52 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
ME BACK NEEDS A SCRATCH
roygodfreymc · 20 points · Posted at 16:04:47 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
YOU WANT SOME O DIS?
Maddieland · 3 points · Posted at 21:35:43 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I swear there's always a dota related comment everywhere I go in Reddit WTF
Stoner95 · 2 points · Posted at 09:43:43 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
We're in the walls waiting, listening, ready to relate anything to dota.
AydelAydel · 2 points · Posted at 17:27:21 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
OSfrog
Her0_0f_time · 42 points · Posted at 15:58:30 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fire and Dragon type
MrAbsolS · 28 points · Posted at 16:21:30 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
To soon, man.
ToaLewa · 5 points · Posted at 19:43:01 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
They're really being generous with the dragon-typing now. Seems like they just slap it on any Pokemon to make it more interesting.
Back in my day, there were only 3 dragon types, and we liked it that way!
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 20:37:10 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Especially since being fire and grass would've been way cooler
Dragmire800 · 2 points · Posted at 22:01:13 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Back in "your day," the only dragon was the derpiest looking dragon possible. Now that Drampa was added, Dragonite takes second place.
clowergen · 1 points · Posted at 01:13:15 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Um that's probably why the fairies came - to depower dragons and hence make them more commonplace?
Pidgeot_Wizard · 82 points · Posted at 16:04:12 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Whoa, it looks like one of those soft-shelled turtles, but you know, with a hard shell.
metalflygon08 · 36 points · Posted at 16:35:29 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
And fire
TheMuon · 1 points · Posted at 04:01:09 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
And dragons.
supjace · 1 points · Posted at 04:49:51 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
And explosion
mjangelvortex · 31 points · Posted at 17:16:47 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I was thinking of a Mata mata turtle.
SmilingMad · 9 points · Posted at 17:44:23 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Considering the nose, flat head, and the general spikiness, I think it's based on a Mata mata turtle (which are hard-shelled). That's awesome.
Mercury321 · 1 points · Posted at 19:51:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Those ugly turtles that live in the south that kinda look like jar jar binks?
soveliss_sunstar · 71 points · Posted at 16:03:23 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
You just activated my trap card!
Edit: added shitty meme.
HunterP1480 · 2 points · Posted at 07:33:58 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I ACTIVATE POT OF GREED!!
Dystify · 36 points · Posted at 16:16:47 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Animated: http://i.imgur.com/Fc56mgt.gifv
Tortunator using an explosive move: http://i.imgur.com/bRw5Bb5.gifv
Edit: Pikachu using the normal type Z-move: https://twitter.com/Dystify/status/766314259450105856
hashtagmydaywear · 18 points · Posted at 16:32:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It looks so much better in game. Oh man, this art doesn't do it justice.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 22:59:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yea this thing has Druddigon-tier zig-zags that look better animated
Charliemax · 5 points · Posted at 16:42:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
If someone were to ask me what a weenie hut jr looks like this would be it.
metalflygon08 · 1 points · Posted at 03:02:56 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
A giant explosuin?
Cablead · 2 points · Posted at 16:57:55 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Smug turtle has already earned a spot on my team.
BlueSatoshi · 1 points · Posted at 21:16:44 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Huh, kinda looks like a kappa.
sigismond0 · 0 points · Posted at 16:29:40 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I think that's a Z-move.Edit: Not a Z-move, but definitely not shell trap.
AdmiralShepard · 1 points · Posted at 16:47:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Or maybe it learns Mega Self Destruct!
Draycen · 1 points · Posted at 16:48:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
No that's Shell Trap going off
Edit: Not Shell Trap, but still not a Z move
sigismond0 · 1 points · Posted at 16:50:27 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
No, this is Shell Trap going off. https://youtu.be/SFWLoyZESAc?t=22
The gif you posted is the Z-move.Draycen · 1 points · Posted at 17:04:55 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
There was no pop up of the move name and that's a wild Tortunator. I highly doubt that's a Z move.
sigismond0 · 1 points · Posted at 17:07:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Good point.
Draycen · 1 points · Posted at 17:12:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Plus the screen only went dark after the move began. Z moves go dark and zoom in on the Pokemon with the glowing aura
Disgruntled__Goat · 1 points · Posted at 22:47:37 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
They can program in any encounters, and the video is also edited since you don't see any move name.
The animation is identical to the second part of Inferno Overdrive (the Fire Z-Move) - see https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3AZHowhxM0U&t=4m50s
They do reuse some animations though, so it could simply be Explosion.
Draycen · 1 points · Posted at 00:55:49 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
No trainer appeared behind it. They'd be going through a ton of unneeded trouble to hide a Z move for no reason. It's probably just Self Destruct or Explosion.
SparkEletran · 1 points · Posted at 16:49:46 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nope, it's just explosion.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:50:35 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
It's not, it's his signature move Shell Trap.
sigismond0 · 0 points · Posted at 16:51:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/SFWLoyZESAc?t=22
No, this is shell trap.
Kamineigh · 1 points · Posted at 16:52:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nope. It has an attack that allows it to cause an explosion if it takes a physical attack.
It's basically a walking landmine.
sigismond0 · 1 points · Posted at 16:55:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/SFWLoyZESAc?t=22
That happens literally like four seconds earlier in the video. It just shoots out some shrapnel with that move.
Kamineigh · 1 points · Posted at 17:08:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I believe the effect varies based on how strong of a hit it takes, since it is basically a form of counter.
Alternatively, the explosion is just Explosion, the attack where a Pokémon explodes.
sigismond0 · 1 points · Posted at 17:10:29 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It may be like counter where damage varies, or it could be a fixed high damage move like a reverse Focus Punch. We won't know until we get more details.
I'm certain that's not Shell Trap causing the explosion, but it very well could just be explosion.
Ice_Cold345 · 56 points · Posted at 16:14:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I like how it's turned away, in a "cool guys don't look at explosions" way.
Kamineigh · 10 points · Posted at 16:54:10 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
But the explosion comes from its belly so it is always going to face the explosion.
EpicalaxyMaster · 3 points · Posted at 21:13:24 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Cool guys ARE the explosions.
anujsingh83 · 1 points · Posted at 01:30:39 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Seems like he's taking notes from Mega Sceptile
fruitlogic · 57 points · Posted at 19:06:19 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
when the op says screenshots and there is one screenshot
mfw
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:13:44 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Here you go ;)
Tobi-of-the-Akatsuki · 23 points · Posted at 16:43:29 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Turtonator, huh?
Yep, that's it. Gonna catch one and name it Trogdor.
GekiKudo · 9 points · Posted at 21:24:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Turtonating the country side. Turtonating all the people.
Tobi-of-the-Akatsuki · 2 points · Posted at 23:27:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
And the Thatch-roofed COTTAGEEEEEEEEES!
Strongbad never gets old, man.
JediwilliW · 2 points · Posted at 17:09:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
THE BURNINATERRRRRRRRR
herpymerpy · 2 points · Posted at 21:38:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Dear strong bad, can you design a Pokemon? I want to see your skills as an artist.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 16:45:35 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Or Arnold.
[deleted] · 23 points · Posted at 18:19:59 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
That neck is at least 10m too short for it to be a dragon.
Permafox · 1 points · Posted at 00:06:25 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
It IS supposedly based on the Mata Mata, get ready for physical moves where it's neck just stretches across the field to slap the opponent.
[deleted] · 18 points · Posted at 19:12:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
fruitlogic · 2 points · Posted at 19:15:59 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
nice nice
ulyssessgrant93 · 1 points · Posted at 20:18:40 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The move you linked for shell trap is explosion. Shell trap had a shrapnel looking animation before that.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:19:15 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
OK cheers.
absolfusion · 1 points · Posted at 22:21:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
the bottom one is explosion, my dude
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 22:22:24 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nope, Shell Trap, his signature move.
aricberg · 15 points · Posted at 16:06:15 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
For years now, I've wanted a Dragon Pokemon that was a turtle. This guy most definitely gets a spot on my team!
fredagsfisk · 3 points · Posted at 20:23:24 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
And now you can kinda have an all-turtle team!
Earlier, you'd have to let Lapras get an honorary turtle spot ('cause of it's shell) or something.
aricberg · 1 points · Posted at 20:31:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I was actually thinking of that as well! May have to level up some turtles to have a Heroes in a Half Shell team ;)
TomorrowMayRain065 · 16 points · Posted at 16:17:26 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
it's a matamata
Kingolimar354 · 1 points · Posted at 21:09:27 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Holy crap I just looked this thing up and this is the ugliest turtle I have ever seen gamefreak did a good job of making this look cool
Chren · 17 points · Posted at 20:12:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Gamera! Gamera!
Gamera is really neat!
Gamera is filled with meat!
We've been eating Gamera!
Shell!
Teeth!
Eyes!
Flames!
Claws!
Breath!
Scales!
Fun!!
Permafox · 1 points · Posted at 23:52:08 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I was looking for this, thank you sir
Dr_Breakfast · 11 points · Posted at 16:03:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFWLoyZESAc
English trailer is here guys!
[deleted] · 11 points · Posted at 16:36:55 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's Gamera!
GrapeLordMinoru · 13 points · Posted at 16:42:37 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Reminds me of the Toktz-ket-xil from runescape
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:44:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh yeah! Haven't seen that word in ages lol
squirelT · 9 points · Posted at 17:37:10 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Honestly the in-game models are so much better than the official artwork this generation. Like when i saw this I thought it was fake, but the in-game model really saves it for me.
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 15:58:53 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Looked cool. And damn, fast. :o
Looks like contact moves might get a recoil-damage effect? He shot something from his shell as an ability anyhow. Neato.
Fire/Dragon typing
Edit: Not an ability. His is Shell Armor. He used his unique move 'Shell Trap' it seems.
Buizie · 7 points · Posted at 17:55:37 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Looks like a cross with Bowser and tortilla chips
taimaishu4 · 1 points · Posted at 18:13:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
First we have water Bowser now tortillas Bowser... We need more Bowsers!!!
Thunder-Fist · 1 points · Posted at 00:13:54 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ty
jugol · 9 points · Posted at 18:09:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's so... "angular"...
VespineWings · 9 points · Posted at 19:06:26 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Whew!! That's our sixth turtle everyone!! Full turtle team, here we go!!
fredagsfisk · 5 points · Posted at 20:24:29 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sorry Lapras, you don't get to be the honorary member of "Team Turtle" anymore just 'cause you kinda look like one.
DigRatChild · 3 points · Posted at 00:40:23 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Blastoise, Torkoal, Torterra, Carracosta, and this thing.
Either i'm missing one or your counting skills are off
VespineWings · 2 points · Posted at 05:08:07 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Don't fuckle with Shuckle.
-Betch- · 1 points · Posted at 04:43:04 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Shuckle
FallenAngelPup · 0 points · Posted at 19:30:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Actually is isn't a turtle. Turtles live in water. This guy is, in fact, a tortious.
kharnzarro · 8 points · Posted at 20:21:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
its most likely based on this kinda turtle though
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3431/3386298772_d63220293a_b.jpg
plus it lives in volvanos so it probably swims in lava
airbagtown · 5 points · Posted at 21:30:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Evolutionarily speaking, tortoises are a type of turtle. The tortoise family is testudinidae, which is in the order of turtles (testudines). So whether or not Turtonator is based on a water-dwelling turtle or a tortoise, it's correct to call it a turtle either way.
CaptainPleb · 3 points · Posted at 20:43:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Tortoise*
Gardelicious · 16 points · Posted at 16:59:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The official art reminds me of someone...
Nyushi · 20 points · Posted at 16:23:59 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
All I can see.
11Slimeade11 · 10 points · Posted at 16:39:10 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
That was the guy I used to run over on a Simpsons car game
Sea-Salt · 2 points · Posted at 21:16:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hit & Run, one of the best Simpsons games ever.
MrAbsolS · 7 points · Posted at 16:16:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nice to see a type that was only present either in a Legendary or a Mega. It's design is kinda meh, but I like it. Also, Shell Trap is gonna be REALLY fun to use.
Nararthok · 7 points · Posted at 19:23:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Tortunator was a turtle.
I mean, it was a dragon turtle.
Or maybe it was just a dragon.
But it was still TORTUNATOR!!
fma891 · 8 points · Posted at 19:35:53 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I haven't played pokemon since Pokémon Ruby.
I'm 22 years old, and for some reason cannot wait for this game to come out.
GekiKudo · 2 points · Posted at 21:33:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The reason is simple. It's a good game. No age limit for Pokemon.
Das_Mojo · 1 points · Posted at 22:09:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm 26 and riding the hype train
CaribbeanRockIguana · 5 points · Posted at 16:24:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
So, tortunator's species is the "blast turtle pokemon." Hm.
HMMMMMMMM
Srsly though I love this boi
timneu92 · 6 points · Posted at 19:44:28 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh god, do I want Salandit or Turtonator on my team.... I've got some soul searching to do now.
10strip · 2 points · Posted at 20:52:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I hope they're not version exclusives then!
zzdarkwingduck · 1 points · Posted at 23:01:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
that would make it easier though.
steveofthejungle · 1 points · Posted at 21:52:50 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Mono fire type run?
Permafox · 1 points · Posted at 23:55:16 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Either one seems to play the long game, just a matter of whether you're operating with poison or explosions
timneu92 · 2 points · Posted at 00:49:36 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I operate with HP draining moves mostly, so having that Corrosion ability would be clutch, but I love dragons and so far I haven't filled that desired slot. I guess it really depends on the water type Pokemon we get this generation because I still haven't found one to fit my future team. Like if there's a water/dragon this gen then I'm going with Salandit 100%!
Permafox · 2 points · Posted at 05:47:00 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm probably on the same boat. I'd really like if it had a chansey level health pool so shell trap could get a bit of extra mileage (instead of its usefulness being hindered by a high defense, limiting returned damage...if it does operate the same as counter and doesn't have set power) but I don't really expect it.
kharnzarro · 7 points · Posted at 20:18:08 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
'pokemon to round and cute"
heres a pokemon made of straight lines and spikes based on a turtle thats rather ugly IRL
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3431/3386298772_d63220293a_b.jpg
ToodlesXIV · 2 points · Posted at 23:58:47 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
While I love every single Pokemon revealed so far this gen, I was noticing it's trending a little cute-heavy. Glad this guy brings a more 'monster' flavor.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:21:37 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Don't know what you're referring to.
kharnzarro · 3 points · Posted at 20:32:10 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
iv just seen alot of people here and there complaining that all the new pokemon have to many rounded edges and to cute looking
yet here we have a rather ugly turtle thats made up of mainly straight and pointed lines the complete opposite of round and cute
soopahfingerzz · 6 points · Posted at 23:35:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
For those who say its ugly, it looks like its based on this rather strange looking turtle the mata mata.
_FulvousFox_ · 5 points · Posted at 02:51:15 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
All these new Pokemon look absolutely amazing. They are probably my most favorite designs in the series so far.
C_Rufio · 51 points · Posted at 15:58:52 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Another design I love. I'm so excited for Sun & Moon!
MrArcanine · 66 points · Posted at 17:00:03 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't really like this design, but to each their own I guess.
I_didnt_fart · 7 points · Posted at 17:13:53 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I didn't like it at first myself, but in game it looks badass and it's got a cool little mustache, so I like!
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 17:48:27 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It reminds me of a softshell turtle, and I love softshell turtles. But then again I love turtles in general. I like turtles.
cool6012 · 1 points · Posted at 22:19:03 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's his mouth.
I_didnt_fart · 1 points · Posted at 22:20:12 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Look at it closer in the original screenshot, I'm pretty sure it's a stylish stache.
writerwithoutacause · 3 points · Posted at 03:45:01 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think it's really ugly to be honest :/ The body proportions are just not attractive, and it's just not a good design to me. Actually, this is how I've felt about almost every pokemon we've seen revealed. I dislike more than I like, which is a shame because we've seen a TON of pokemon revealed. Don't get me wrong, I don't think they're running out of ideas, the designs are just really ugly as of late, which is a shame and weird because we just came out of gen 6 which had some of the best designs I've ever seen
C_Rufio · 0 points · Posted at 17:18:24 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
You don't have to like it, I love it. A lot of people don't like it, a lot of people do like it. That's the wonderful thing about any form of art, it's completely subjective.
[deleted] · -14 points · Posted at 17:06:45 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Me either, Pokémon is really stretching for designs since back in the day.
C_Rufio · 17 points · Posted at 17:21:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah I miss the eggs that turned into a tree, the mime, the pile of purple sludge, and whatever diglett is. Every generation has odd designs.
beantheduck · 5 points · Posted at 18:30:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I feel like the sludge, diglet, and a tree aren't weird at all. Fuck mr. mime though.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 21:19:53 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's not even odd. It's just sloppy. Way to busy, they just threw jagged lines everywhere, copied his shield for his hat. Like wtf is that thing, at least the things you listed had some clean lines and real shape to them.
C_Rufio · 3 points · Posted at 01:10:26 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Idk it's a pretty good representation of a Mata Mata Turtle. Obviously it has features that are more exaggerated because it's a cartoon but it's not far off from a real animal.
GekiKudo · 3 points · Posted at 21:22:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
No. Not at all. Every gen has flops. Who could forget: "Pokeball" and "upside down Pokeball" or "magnet that becomes three magnets"
At the same time we have gotten amazing designs each gen.
hedface · 7 points · Posted at 16:04:07 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's about time we got a Poke like this!
Darkpursuer · 1 points · Posted at 05:44:00 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
From the color scheme and the cap on its head, it's pretty much designed with a cartoon explosion in mind.
wellrestedPupper · -33 points · Posted at 16:32:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
You guys really are pokemon drones.this is barbacle tier bad, maybe even worse
C_Rufio · 24 points · Posted at 16:36:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
So I'm a sheep because I like the design? How about fucking off and letting people enjoy things?
CandyDetector · 2 points · Posted at 16:47:22 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
How is it bad?
PurpleOxmodius · 1 points · Posted at 17:07:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
When you flip the chips, dip the hips! No wat Im sayin??
TooDangShort · 1 points · Posted at 19:27:26 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ssssssshhhhhhh let people enjoy things...
hrpufnsting · 4 points · Posted at 19:33:13 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well I always loved Torkoal, so I guess I can get behind this guy as another fire turtle. wish they would make Tokoal evolve though.
Pamuknai_K · 5 points · Posted at 19:43:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I have a feeling this will be the new Druddigon.
IanMelbourne93 · 4 points · Posted at 21:04:15 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Turtonating the country side, turtonating the peasants...
Liryok · 2 points · Posted at 03:57:42 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Best comment of the thread right here. Have all of the upvotes.
Yueske · 5 points · Posted at 22:45:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Turtonator looks like it is taking a crap on someone's desk and maintaining eye contact while doing it.
JonSnuur · 5 points · Posted at 16:19:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
What is this things speed? It doesn't look fast which means I'm gonna assume this special move has protect priority or else few things are gonna get trapped.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 16:49:02 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It will probably be the same as protect yes. Then again, Purugly doesn't look as fast as it is.
daddycrankee · 2 points · Posted at 19:14:10 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah but it's signature move working is dependent on the other Pokemon being faster so I'm guessing it will have low base speed.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:56:01 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't think Speed factors in. You set the move at the beginning of the turn. If the opponent uses a special attack, you do nothing. If it's physical, they take damage. Turtonator is shown to take damage regardless, so it doesn't get the Protect effect like Spiky Shield or King's Shield.
Smitje · 1 points · Posted at 20:41:37 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Could still work with Trick Room, maybe?
Arrlan · 3 points · Posted at 16:53:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
TROGDORTORTUNATOR WAS AMAN!TURTLE![deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 17:53:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not bad, wish it didn't face backwards all the time though
givemeyourcheeses · 4 points · Posted at 18:24:01 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
So this Pokemon is basically Gamera?
I can dig it.
VAPOREON_FUCKER · 4 points · Posted at 20:27:24 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
So it's a mine turtle?
starbom · 4 points · Posted at 21:31:24 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Tfw its an Octorok with a Toktz-ket-xil strapped to its back. I like it, I don't quite understand why its a dragon, but I like it.
Naming it either Gamera (Did you see that plasma cannon breath!?) or Xil for the aforementioned shield.
Cogitatus · 2 points · Posted at 23:15:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
We need another TzHaar themed Pokemon
UndeadBan · 1 points · Posted at 23:10:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bixi_(mythology)
Possibly that.
ToodlesXIV · 5 points · Posted at 23:27:32 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Our Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle teams, AND our Godzilla teams just got a new member.
Speezi316 · 4 points · Posted at 02:06:31 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
New turtle pokemon looks cool can't wait for Sun & Moon!
BlueThunderBomb · 6 points · Posted at 16:08:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I feel like this has a monster hunter feel to it.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 16:53:28 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Definitely that kind of vibe yeah.
Dragmire800 · 1 points · Posted at 22:04:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't really get the feel. Feels too unrealistic concept-wise for MH. Most things in MH follow some logic
ThinkingOfYou75 · 3 points · Posted at 16:04:44 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
His shell looks awesome.
TrentonRommy · 3 points · Posted at 16:08:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I really like the design. It's so goofy and cool. It's got character. Cool typing too. I love it! Welcome to the team, Tortunator. (Nickname TBD)
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 16:53:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nickname: Arnold
BigC23 · 3 points · Posted at 16:09:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Even though they only showed one today, it looks sick! Really like it.
MillionDollarMistake · 3 points · Posted at 16:14:05 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
That is some face.
rankor572 · 3 points · Posted at 16:14:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
He's a living Claymore mine, that's badass. I was already planning on doing my run of Moon as a mono-dragon, but this will definitely make it a more interesting run.
VintageGrace · 3 points · Posted at 16:38:47 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Love the design! Looks like a MegaMan X boss!
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:46:12 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Or a certain Mario boss...
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 16:58:50 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
r/runescape is gonna be pissed when the see the obby shield
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 17:00:12 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
lol someone else commented that as well
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:00:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Too slow I suppose
deamonsatwar · 3 points · Posted at 16:59:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
My god, I read "torturnator" at first, had to take a second look to figure out what is name was.
Cyberfire · 3 points · Posted at 17:32:15 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
He looks cool, can never have enough Tortoise and Turtle Pokemon! Just really hope we are not seeing the entire Alolan Dex pre-release!
Permafox · 1 points · Posted at 17:40:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
While I'm optimistic that they wouldn't release the whole thing like this, I won't deny I have the same worry.
nazeki · 2 points · Posted at 20:11:03 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm sure a few will remain a mystery but then again I'm not all that concerned about it either way because with the exception of x/y we already knew about all the new Pokemon before playing thanks to the delay between the jp and na release dates.
X/Y did have alot of reveals as well but final starter stages and a solid batch of new Pokemon remained hidden till the official release. (Or you know... at least till corrupt store employees started leaking)
PayneTrain181999 · 3 points · Posted at 17:44:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
If Bowser and Michael Bay had a baby, this would be it.
Totally want to use this thing though.
Levojego · 3 points · Posted at 18:22:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Isn't there already a fire turtle?
[deleted] · -3 points · Posted at 18:22:21 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
No.
imtheBlackSheep21 · 6 points · Posted at 18:26:39 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Torkoal is a fire turtle or tortoise if you wish.
[deleted] · -3 points · Posted at 18:27:02 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Two very different things.
imtheBlackSheep21 · 1 points · Posted at 19:56:05 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm aware, just pointing out that both are shelled reptilians with long or short necks even though their living conditions vary. As for the Pokemon itself, I got no issue with it. Could be pretty strong.
Levojego · 5 points · Posted at 18:39:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just looked it up. I knew I was right. It's name is Torkoal. It would be nice if they would make some more variety instead of having like 5+ electric mouse pokemon.
[deleted] · -6 points · Posted at 18:41:23 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Torkoal is based on a tortoise. You are wrong.
Levojego · 6 points · Posted at 18:47:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The American Society of Ichthyologists and Herpetologists uses "turtle" to describe all species of the order Testudines, regardless of whether they are land-dwelling or sea-dwelling, and uses "tortoise" as a more specific term for slow-moving terrestrial species.
[deleted] · -10 points · Posted at 18:55:02 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh the "American Society" that explains a lot lol
Levojego · 5 points · Posted at 19:25:07 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pretty much the same thing it said for Britain too.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:26:05 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
No, turtles and tortoises are classified differently in Britain and America. I though this was common knowledge, but I guess you didn't know that. http://puu.sh/qG2zS/5e3ef608cd.png
Levojego · 2 points · Posted at 19:41:13 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
British usage, by contrast, tends not to use "turtle" as a generic term for all members of the order, and also applies the term "tortoises" broadly to all land-dwelling members of the order Testudines, regardless of whether they are actually members of the family Testudinidae.
Sounds like they call shit tortoise when it isn't to me.
d_zer0 · 3 points · Posted at 18:26:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Torkoal.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 18:26:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's a tortoise.
d_zer0 · 1 points · Posted at 19:27:13 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
...God damn it.
SenorCe · 3 points · Posted at 19:20:12 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Awesome. It looks they took some inspiration from this fellow http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8ucBoNN-FeM/TkHfEAKL21I/AAAAAAAAA10/9W4GAppvDdU/s1600/matamata_turtle.jpg
spitfirepanda · 3 points · Posted at 19:55:14 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Awesome Pokémon and awesome concept. I've got no complaints with this gen so far.
GrizzledSteel · 3 points · Posted at 22:48:27 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
SO MANY AWESOME NEW POKEMON THAT I NEED MORE THAN 6 SLOTS!
Kingolimar354 · 3 points · Posted at 23:31:37 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wow I just realized Tortunator's shell is in the shape of an explosion
TheFreakaZoid · 3 points · Posted at 23:43:46 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm adding this guy to my turtle squad team. I'mma call it snapper.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 23:48:13 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I imagine Torkoal is drinking himself to sleep right about now.
BastardJack · 3 points · Posted at 03:20:21 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sweet, alongside Blastoise, Carracosta, Torkoal, and Torterra I have a pretty decent turtle team going.
Jwdarrenloh · 3 points · Posted at 04:15:39 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's a mean looking pokemon. It resembles a star tortoise. Man I had one of these guys as pets when I was a kid. Now its a freaking fire dragon. Thanks Nintendo!
TheDominantSoul · 3 points · Posted at 06:21:43 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's nice to see expansion on this typing. The only other Pokemon that share it are Reshiram and Mega Charizard X. Hopefully it's fun to use!
Meloetta34 · 3 points · Posted at 06:45:51 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I have a hunch Dr. Doofensmirtz named this guy
Hanimetion · 5 points · Posted at 15:59:21 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It was also confirmed how you access Z-Moves in the battle screen, but nobody took screenshots.
ilike_gges1 · 1 points · Posted at 16:03:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I missed how they used the Z-move. Is it through that suspected 5th move slot or something different?
Hanimetion · 5 points · Posted at 16:07:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It gets a golden button that occupies the left side of the move selection screen, pressing it then takes you to a screen where you select the move that the Z-move will overwrite.
Ice_Cold345 · 1 points · Posted at 16:15:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wait, so it's a permanent replacement of a move for the battle (similar to Mega evolving) or until it switches out?
Hanimetion · 9 points · Posted at 16:18:24 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not permanent, just one-use.
sigismond0 · 4 points · Posted at 16:36:15 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Then why do you need to overwrite another move if it doesn't permanently use that slot?
sirhelio · 6 points · Posted at 16:45:45 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It seems to use 1PP of the move selected, which also has to be the same type.
_ALRO_ · 7 points · Posted at 16:51:27 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
So it's just throwing that move into over drive
Bowler-hatted_Mann · 2 points · Posted at 17:25:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Mega-moves?
Smitje · 0 points · Posted at 20:42:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Z-moves. The mystery about those crystals were Z-moves.
Bowler-hatted_Mann · 2 points · Posted at 05:14:28 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes, but it acts like a mega version if thst move. Which people speculated.
Enfero · 2 points · Posted at 16:41:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
You don't
naranjitayyo · 5 points · Posted at 17:14:35 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
This is metal as fuck. I love it.
SkywardQuill · 7 points · Posted at 18:16:30 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
FINALLY, I can realise my dream of having an all-turtle/tortoise team!
...Except this one is really ugly, so maybe I'll wait for the next turtle/tortoise Pokémon instead.
steveofthejungle · 3 points · Posted at 21:49:14 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well, it's based on a mata mata turtle, which is also ugly as hell
SkywardQuill · 4 points · Posted at 22:18:03 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Holy shit you weren't kidding.
steveofthejungle · 3 points · Posted at 22:42:15 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sometimes real life is stranger than Pokemon
soccerman95 · 9 points · Posted at 17:30:32 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm not one to complain about Pokemon designs...but I really don't don't like the look of this one. Something about this is just...idk...off? Maybe it is it's face or how it faces opponents with it's back? I find it ugly.
Permafox · 2 points · Posted at 17:42:45 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It is supposedly based on the mata Mata turtle, and it's easy to see why. If you haven't seen the turtle itself, look it up.
While I wouldn't personally say it's ugly, it's definitely different. It'll take a little getting used to but I think we'll enjoy it.
soccerman95 · 3 points · Posted at 17:57:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just looked it up. Yeah, the design makes a lot more sense now. I'll grow on me I'm sure.
Oreoghoul · 7 points · Posted at 16:07:14 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Im hoping we get pre-evolutions for this. Need that 3-stage Dragon greatness thats in almost every gen
InferSaime · 24 points · Posted at 16:11:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's looking more like Druddigon, a one stage dragon type, still awesome though
Oreoghoul · 5 points · Posted at 16:14:44 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah i love it. Ill be ok if its only a one-stage. But i do want a 3-stage dragon :p
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 16:28:03 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd bet all my money that we'll get one. We had one every gen except Gen II (Kingdra technically does fit those requirements though).
Dragmire800 · 1 points · Posted at 22:03:52 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
People always joke about how Druddigon was created by getting loads of kids and challenging them to draw the spikiest Dragon possible. Druddigon was the winner, but I think this new pokemon came second place. It has a better design, but is slightly less spikey
trallnar · -1 points · Posted at 16:18:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Except druddigon is ugly and terrible. I kind of like this design so im really hoping it's viable!
ZB314 · 1 points · Posted at 16:28:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I want baby dragon turtle
BlastoiseRules · 1 points · Posted at 00:06:20 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm thinking this will be a Noivern equivalent. Only Noivern got Boomburst (right?). This guy exclusively gets Shell Trap.
Bucky_Jibak · 1 points · Posted at 02:51:42 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm betting it'll be 2-staged.
jimbobhas · 5 points · Posted at 15:59:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I so thought this was going to be the Grass/Fire type
Dray_Gunn · 11 points · Posted at 17:26:13 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Its making me wonder why they are making these weird dragons. Game freak must be like "and lets make this a dragon." "but thats a turtle." "no, its a dragon.. and so is this." "sir, thats a tree."
Ildona · 1 points · Posted at 20:41:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
They finally added stuff that can keep Dragons in check, so they're going wild with it.
TheIvoryDingo · 2 points · Posted at 16:04:06 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
He looks like a fire version of Mega Man X6's Rainy Turtloid. (Look it up if you don't believe me. )
ZB314 · 1 points · Posted at 16:27:15 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The stance maybe, but the thing itself looks more like Blastoise than this to be honest.
TheIvoryDingo · 0 points · Posted at 16:35:29 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I was mostly referring to how it's standing.
MrMcKonz · 5 points · Posted at 16:06:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Here's its Official English Page.
yung9tales · 5 points · Posted at 20:14:29 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Tortunator? That's a weird way to spell Alolan Magmar
TreGet234 · 1 points · Posted at 21:19:15 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
it's turtonator in english. the picture was from the german gamescom stream. feels a little trolly of them.
yung9tales · 2 points · Posted at 21:48:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ill just call him Tatertot
AfroKing23 · 4 points · Posted at 02:09:32 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
seems to be based off of a young Mata Mata Turtle.
They're native to the Amazon and Orinoco Basins. AKA archer would never come near this guys home turf
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 15:58:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
lol That's literally bowser.
Shatazi · 7 points · Posted at 16:00:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
New type, weird ass design, i love it.
[deleted] · 25 points · Posted at 16:10:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fire/Dragon isn't that new. Both Reshiram and Mega Charizard X have it too.
Shatazi · 2 points · Posted at 16:13:22 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yup, i was wrong
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:49:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I guess it's new in the sense that it's the first base form non-legendary pokemon to have this type
ZXander_makes_noise · 10 points · Posted at 16:12:53 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Reshiram was fire/dragon
[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 16:14:43 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Reshiram and Mega Charizard X
feral4l · 7 points · Posted at 16:05:07 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
New type?
Colinpr007 · -6 points · Posted at 16:12:06 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Alain's mega Charizard X is the only fire/dragon we have
feral4l · 22 points · Posted at 16:12:50 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Reshiram?
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 17:36:22 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Its such a weird design but the more I look at it the more I like it.
Metroidzoid · 2 points · Posted at 17:42:06 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Does anyone else feel like this will be our psuedo-legendary? That or the random one-off stronger Pokemon ala Drudiggon, but I'm hoping for the former.
Xlaxy · 1 points · Posted at 17:53:50 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Holy crap. That's what I thought when I saw him as well.
RSN_Bran · 2 points · Posted at 17:46:19 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Screenshot. Singular. Only one.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 17:46:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Scroll through the comments, there's more info there if you need it.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:13:11 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/4yd1bn/new_sun_and_moon_pokemon_screenshots/d6n038p
Switchbutton · 2 points · Posted at 19:24:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
NOOT NOOT MOTHERFUCKER
Sciartion · 2 points · Posted at 20:10:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hope it gets another ability in the safari or whatever they use in Alola coughroughskincough. Also, it needs Spikes.
Smitje · 2 points · Posted at 20:37:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Another one of these weird Pokémon that stands backwards.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:38:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I haven't really noticed many others.
IMSOJIGGLY · 2 points · Posted at 20:59:35 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Only mega sceptile.
Edit: Mawile too.
Dionysus24779 · 2 points · Posted at 21:02:21 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Mawile too.
Toilet_Sponge · 1 points · Posted at 21:02:08 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
And Mawile.
IMSOJIGGLY · 2 points · Posted at 21:03:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I forgot all about mawile rip.
Smitje · 1 points · Posted at 21:29:10 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Mawile?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:29:32 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh yeah there's one.
scarlet_twitch · 2 points · Posted at 21:03:16 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
This is going to be important in the 2017 meta.
randomphoenix03 · 2 points · Posted at 21:18:21 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Eva Marie suspended, FNAF:SL cancelled, and more Pokémon leaks? Sweet jesus!
unusedwings · 1 points · Posted at 21:24:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
FNAF:SL "cancelled". Pretty sure this is all going for marketing.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 22:42:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Looks like doofenshmirtz made the name
Tunelessmelody · 2 points · Posted at 23:15:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I love it's weird nose
radiopinetool · 2 points · Posted at 00:12:46 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
This thing is 6'7"... It could be competing competitively in basketball at that height.
Delsepi · 2 points · Posted at 01:14:16 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Noot noot
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:24:49 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm naming mine Bowser
Bucky_Jibak · 2 points · Posted at 02:50:31 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
It'l like a Gamera pokemon mixed with a Kappa. I found a dragon to my team.
MaltMix · 8 points · Posted at 17:16:55 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I hate all those chaotic jagged angles. Looks like a kids drawing.
Cogitatus · 3 points · Posted at 21:25:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The Genwunning is strong today in /r/pokemon.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 21:26:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
ikr
Cogitatus · 1 points · Posted at 21:31:19 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
That is just rich.
kiaxxl · 2 points · Posted at 16:14:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's so... ugly imo :x Not a fan. And I don't like that I don't like it, cause I love the typing.
Kamineigh · 6 points · Posted at 16:53:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's based on a pretty ugly species of turtle, so it's probably supposed to look ugly.
GekiKudo · 6 points · Posted at 21:32:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I wish more people would realize this. Especially with bruxish. An ugly Pokemon does not equal a bad design.
Kamineigh · 2 points · Posted at 06:35:28 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Agreed. Like, I don't get why people complain about Garbodor being ugly.
Like, it's a pile of rotting garbage - what were you expecting?
pilgrimz · 1 points · Posted at 16:20:30 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I bet it will grow on you. I feel like that often and end up liking them once I see it them moving in game.
kiaxxl · 2 points · Posted at 16:24:32 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Eh... I've only disliked two Alolan Pokemon straight out, this one and Togedemaru. And I still don't like Togedemaru XD
Not every Pokemon is gonna be a hit.
adriardi · 1 points · Posted at 16:40:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
This is the first one I dislike, which is a pretty good ratio.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:45:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
What's wrong with it?
adriardi · 2 points · Posted at 17:11:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's not my thing, and I think it looks creepy. Nothing has to be wrong with it. People like different stuff
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 16:47:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
This thing is hideous.
I'd say kill it with fire but it 4x resists it.
Criminon · 1 points · Posted at 21:07:27 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ha
Fuckinanus · 2 points · Posted at 16:10:06 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
giffff meee staaaaats
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:52:55 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Probably won't get those till release.
Dilligence · 2 points · Posted at 19:27:19 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I LIKE TURTLES
Draycen · 2 points · Posted at 16:11:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Torkoal used Rapid Spin against the Shell Trap. Either Shell Trap isn't a hazard or it can't be removed.
sigismond0 · 8 points · Posted at 16:29:22 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Or it's just a Counter-like move.
Draycen · -1 points · Posted at 16:31:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Well that's why I said "isn't a hazard". But the terminology of "set a Shell Trap" is suspect
sigismond0 · 4 points · Posted at 16:33:14 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just a counter.
Draycen · 1 points · Posted at 16:34:59 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Damn that's disappointing
sigismond0 · 5 points · Posted at 16:39:08 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It may not have variable damage though--maybe it has a fixed high BP. 150 would be reasonable, and make it a reversed Focus Punch or weird Sucker Punch variant.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:51:46 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's like Protect.
gril69 · 1 points · Posted at 15:59:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
it's a turtle?
SamVegas · 1 points · Posted at 16:11:46 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFWLoyZESAc
Luvas · 1 points · Posted at 16:22:45 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I shall call mine Arnold.
internetsinspanish · 2 points · Posted at 16:42:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I wanna name mine Lockjaw! That's my Carracosta's name tho...
Gooeyguy188 · 1 points · Posted at 17:58:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm imagining the Mutant Robots machine of the same came, holding a turtle shall in its clamps.
Chilly9613 · 1 points · Posted at 16:37:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I love him.
Pittoo13 · 1 points · Posted at 16:47:27 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Reminds me of the sun
OurEngiFriend · 1 points · Posted at 16:47:30 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is that master wugui
Cropod · 1 points · Posted at 16:48:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Turtonator sounds like the secret 4th turtwig evolution we've always wanted
gorzorpah · 1 points · Posted at 16:51:12 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Its a turtle with duckface
TsukiraLuna · 1 points · Posted at 16:55:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Would love to see Tortunator and Mawile fight back to back.
zweifichA · 1 points · Posted at 16:57:35 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
It looks like a
soft-shelled river turtle.Edit: It's apparently a Mata Mata Turtle.
JosGibbons · 1 points · Posted at 17:08:47 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I can't wait to see the shiny coloration. In the mean time, we can speculate about the Pikachu tail.
IDespiseFatties · 1 points · Posted at 17:15:07 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
TROGDORRRRRRR
groovyoung · 1 points · Posted at 17:31:07 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It looks like Rainy Turtoid from Mega Man X6, but with a fire shell.
cats-and-spiders · 1 points · Posted at 17:34:05 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I really like how its shell and... hat thing? Look like stylized explosions. Very cool new turtle mon!
Nightynightynight · 1 points · Posted at 17:35:24 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Really like the way it looks, one of my favourites already out of the ones revealed so far and also some good typing to boot.
Unless GF suddenly reveals a whole bunch of completely amazing new pokemon, I'm most definitely going to use it in my team.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:35:39 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hell yes! This Pokemon looks really interesting! Pretty stoked for this one..
flameduck · 1 points · Posted at 17:36:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
whoa I come back to my front page after reading the comments on that energy for ash post and this is here, didn't see it before. There's a video too! This guy looks cool, very spiky and sharp. Lots of corners and edges. from the comments apparently he has a fire type counter, i guess you can counter ghosts now.
I should watch the video before commenting though. But it's only been an hour ago and wow. First the anime and now this. Nice announcements.
Bmilphy · 1 points · Posted at 17:36:28 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
This thing is actually pretty dope
Dionysus24779 · 1 points · Posted at 17:37:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hope we get to see at least one more, I'm not that taken away with this one.
Though trap moves that trigger on certain conditions could be interesting if there're others as well. (like imagine if there's a powerful trap move that triggers when the opponent uses a stat boosting move, or when the enemy uses a super effective move against your pokemon, or when the enemy switches, or when a held item activates its effect or when your pokemon faints or when a critical hit occurs... tons of possibilities that could shake up the meta game. Though maybe it just stays with this one signature move)
EphemeralSonata · 1 points · Posted at 21:46:22 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Technically Snatch counts as a trap move that triggers when the opponent uses a stat-boosting move. Same for Pursuit and switching out. And there are abilities that trigger when hit by crits. I get what you mean about having the powerful attack instead, but it's not an entirely new concept.
Dionysus24779 · 1 points · Posted at 22:03:10 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
But Pursuit doesn't really "trigger", same for snatch, they only work when you use them and their conditions are met. (though I get what you mean)
I meant moves that you can basically prepare in advance. Like use the move now and then maybe 8 turns later the conditions are met and the trap springs.
The closest I can think of are these delayed attacks like future vision for example, basically a trap move that simply triggers after one turn. Perish song is kind of similar too as it triggers after three turns and not having switched out the affected Pokemon.
Stealth Rock and Spikes are close too since you set them up and they activate whenever an opponent switches in.
I feel like you could really expand on this idea of "trap moves" and it could add an interesting new element to battles, especially when they could be used against common tactics. Though these kind of moves should expire after a certain amount of turns so one player can't just stack on the traps and punish the opponent for everything they do.
Though I kind of doubt this will actually happen and it needs more thought put into it anyway.
Permafox · 1 points · Posted at 17:49:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Did it use dragon breath and have shell trap activate in the same turn, or did I just see it wrong?
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 17:50:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Shell Trap is a priority move that stays active until it's attacked.
Permafox · 1 points · Posted at 21:09:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
See that's what makes sense, but the description specifies if an opponent hits it on the same turn
Edit:. Just looked at the trailer again, there's a complete cut between shell trap and dragon pulse, not even subtle, I'm just easily distracted, or oblivious, or both
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:53:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:28:45 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
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togekiss71 · 1 points · Posted at 17:57:19 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
About Z-Moves, can any pokemon use any type of Z-Move?
So all pokemon can have 1 pp Hidden Power on steroids ?
Seiryus · 2 points · Posted at 18:10:22 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's apparently tied to the moves the pokémon currently knows. Pikachu used Normal-type Z-Move because it knew Slam. It probably could only have used Gigavolt Havoc instead, as its other 3 moves were electric.
Permafox · 1 points · Posted at 00:10:06 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Kinda, but they've got to be able to at least learn one move of the same type as z move, no news on if that counts the same for status moves too, but I imagine they probably will.
superfroakie · 1 points · Posted at 18:00:08 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It looks like the weird turtle thing from the amazing world of gumball
d_zer0 · 1 points · Posted at 18:26:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Kind of looks like a pissed off duck.
It's face reminds me a little of Zapdos actually.
teruma · 1 points · Posted at 18:27:24 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
How is this not a torkoal evo or alola form?
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 18:27:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Because it's a new pokemon.
Seiryus · 1 points · Posted at 18:30:35 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Any chance this thing evolves from Torkoal and the video was meant as a hint?
CaptainPleb · 1 points · Posted at 21:13:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
No
Nuclearo_ · 1 points · Posted at 18:38:16 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
This thing is badass.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:44:05 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
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Frescopino · 1 points · Posted at 18:44:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is this thing's name the combination of tortoise and terminator?
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 18:44:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Turtle and detonator.
Frescopino · 3 points · Posted at 19:31:12 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
THAT'S A MINE TURTLE. HOLY SHIT WE HAVE A MINETRURTLE POKEMON!
FallenAngelPup · 1 points · Posted at 19:32:39 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
People keep calling it a turtle but turtles live in and around water :( I say it's a tortois
kharnzarro · 2 points · Posted at 20:22:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
looks based on this kinda turtle though
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3431/3386298772_d63220293a_b.jpg
and since it lives in volcanos probably swims in lava instead of water
Permafox · 1 points · Posted at 00:03:37 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Turtle is technically ambiguous, tortoise is not.
goodzibes · 1 points · Posted at 19:05:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The title says screenshots but I only see one picture
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:05:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I was going to add more, but people linked to all the relevant info in the comments.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:13:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Here you go ;)
heezyboy13 · 1 points · Posted at 19:06:37 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/DI5_sQ8O-7Y
TurdWrangler934 · 1 points · Posted at 19:17:01 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Awesome! Definitely in my party! But am I the only one that thinks it should be lying down, shell up?
Permafox · 1 points · Posted at 00:01:51 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Totally with you. I like the design, just not the stance, looks...awkward to me, it looks like it'd barely be able to manage a step without stumbling, kinda like typhlosion really.
TurdWrangler934 · 1 points · Posted at 01:43:39 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Imagine how strained it's neck gets
Permafox · 2 points · Posted at 05:43:58 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's gotta be upset, you might even say it's got a....
Short fuse?
TurdWrangler934 · 1 points · Posted at 06:08:17 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
buh dum chiii
H4RR1S_J · 1 points · Posted at 19:42:46 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's a matamata mixed with a land mine.
mostlyharmlessZ · 1 points · Posted at 20:17:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I just hope it has access to shell smash like it looks like it should. That would make me sooo happy.
jaimauhl · 1 points · Posted at 20:29:53 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
What real-world event is the "Fire-Dragon" typing relating to? I keep seeing "too soon" comments relating this this.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:30:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fans are disappointed that Mega Charizard X beat Ash's Greninja in today's episode of the XYZ anime.
babybelly · 1 points · Posted at 20:49:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
thats why staryu and starmie have no face
IMSOJIGGLY · 1 points · Posted at 21:00:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Inb4 useless dragon type like druddigon.
SirCat2115 · 1 points · Posted at 21:14:32 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Holy shit it isn't a concept
jesus_christ_FENTON · 1 points · Posted at 21:21:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Even on the in game model the nose(?) just looks derpy.
Toludude · 1 points · Posted at 21:23:05 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I bet it knows blast burn.
coldenigma · 1 points · Posted at 21:24:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Looks like Magmar and Carracosta had a child together while holding a Dragon Scale 🙂
tintin4506 · 1 points · Posted at 21:40:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
so this, next to Salandit are now the new Game exclusive pokemon then? Because when you have trailers exclusively for these pokemon and nothing else, it kinda looks like it.
Permafox · 2 points · Posted at 23:33:39 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
We've no idea what's limited to what game, yet
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:41:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
What do you mean by game exclusive?
tintin4506 · 1 points · Posted at 22:02:13 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pokemon that can be found in the wild exclusively in one of the games. For example the legendaries can only be found in their respective games.
unless you use the gts or wonder trade.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:02:39 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
*version exclusive
AntsInMyEyesJohnson7 · 1 points · Posted at 22:00:10 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
At least it's not a bin bag
fiafem · 1 points · Posted at 22:06:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
There is only one
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:07:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Look at the comments.
Battlemaster123 · 1 points · Posted at 22:17:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
This gen seems really defensive which i think is great for the meta
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:51:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Thought I saw this dude in the new Kunfu Panda movie...
macj95 · 1 points · Posted at 22:57:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is there any comfirmation on what kind of turtle its based on? When i look at it it reminds me of the Mata mata
Its got the flat head and the snout thingy.
iguanoman_ · 1 points · Posted at 23:28:46 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
This guy must've been trained by mega sceptile
noakai · 1 points · Posted at 23:29:52 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Alola Pokemon seem a lot more deadly than other region's Pokemon lol.
Permafox · 1 points · Posted at 00:18:40 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I know, right? Geodude may get upset and angry if you accidentally step on it, this thing just blows you and anyone else you're with into fine meaty chunks.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:31:43 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I wonder if it'll have a preform or evolution?
Green_Bay_Fappers · 1 points · Posted at 23:39:40 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pokemon ft Legend of Zelda
Terrariattt3 · 1 points · Posted at 23:41:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is this good or Bad I can't tell/say?
Draycen · 1 points · Posted at 01:56:27 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I hated it at first but I like it better now
Terrariattt3 · 1 points · Posted at 02:04:59 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
OIC
Glammshire · 1 points · Posted at 01:30:32 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is Shell Trap like an Arena Trap that does damage?
Permafox · 1 points · Posted at 05:26:00 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Think of it more like counter, but with explosions
sovereigntea721 · 1 points · Posted at 01:47:44 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
disco bowser
xoemmytee · 1 points · Posted at 01:57:08 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I thought it was cool until I remembered we already have a fire tortoise.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:05:43 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
It looks cool but why the fuck is it standing backwards
TheGingerGenocide · 1 points · Posted at 07:56:27 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
To protect its weak spot on its soft belly... Read the pokedex entries dude.
KeKaRoNi · 1 points · Posted at 02:14:04 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
A Turtle is now more dragon than Charizard.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:31:59 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
That face is haunting.
aaronunderwater · 1 points · Posted at 03:33:35 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Z
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 09:34:44 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
G?
aaronunderwater · 1 points · Posted at 06:43:14 on August 31, 2016 · (Permalink)
You're not getting this...
Z
timedrifts · 1 points · Posted at 04:07:59 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
What does the back look like
vickers89 · 1 points · Posted at 06:43:35 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
he is gorgeous. can't wait to abuse him
Tomhap · 1 points · Posted at 08:38:05 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's just one picture of Tortunator. It's not 'screenshots'.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 09:33:10 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
*Screenshots. Read the comments.
Turtinator · 1 points · Posted at 08:39:08 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
... called it?
Soulcrifice · 1 points · Posted at 09:20:50 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I feel like this new region is going to have a good mix of types.
CaptainJaXon · 1 points · Posted at 11:03:21 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
This looks like a MegaMan X5 or X6 boss. Rainy Turtloid or something like that.
trendywendymark · 1 points · Posted at 12:33:40 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
beware the cyborg
FetchingTheSwagni · 1 points · Posted at 16:34:21 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Dude looks like a samurai volcano turtle. I am absolutely in love with this pokemon.
kalik_ya_dead · 1 points · Posted at 20:55:39 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I shall call it Trogdor
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:32:56 on August 21, 2016 · (Permalink)
Um whatever. Why would mega evolution, alola forms, and Z moves all be in one game? We have seen no new megas or ANY information on it. Theres a Z stone bracelet instead of mega bracelet. Having both megas w Z moves would be way too OP. So no.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 09:48:23 on August 21, 2016 · (Permalink)
So no...what? Were you trying to respond to another comment?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:33:51 on August 21, 2016 · (Permalink)
Im on the app. Yes, i was responding to someone.
LinguisticallyInept · 0 points · Posted at 16:39:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
first SuMo poke i actually dislike the design of... oh well; sure somepeople will like it
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 16:45:55 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's not that bad imo
Draycen · 0 points · Posted at 16:46:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
This is the second for me. I also really hate Bewear, but overall I've loved the designs
ChaosOmega · 1 points · Posted at 16:06:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Did Bowser breed with Birdo and this is the offspring?
Pinkerrton · 1 points · Posted at 21:04:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Looks like something I would doodle in science when I get bored 11/10
Chrisixx · 1 points · Posted at 16:00:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Tortunator = Tortuga (Turtle) + Terminator.
Despada_ · 3 points · Posted at 16:03:12 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
This is its German name.
TeamAquaAdminMatt · -1 points · Posted at 16:07:52 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Same in english trailer
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 16:11:19 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
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TeamAquaAdminMatt · 1 points · Posted at 16:35:14 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh they switched the first U and O to make it Turtonator
Her0_0f_time · -1 points · Posted at 16:10:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Its also its english name as seen in the english trailer released along side it.
airstorm747 · 3 points · Posted at 16:18:05 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Slight difference. German is Tortunator. English is Turtonator.
Despada_ · 5 points · Posted at 16:15:47 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Nope, it's Turtonator and not Tortunator. Two letters are swapped, but it gives different context.
My guess is that Turtonator is a portmanteau of Turtle and Detonator.
WarlocDS · 3 points · Posted at 16:32:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Detonator would be more likely
YoungCedeling · 2 points · Posted at 17:48:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Or incinerator
VintageGrace · 2 points · Posted at 16:37:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think it's detonator since hes supposed to be like a mine.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:00:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Do we know the typing?
Evillar · 3 points · Posted at 16:02:45 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fire Dragon
Larrybot · 1 points · Posted at 16:01:40 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's name must be said like Arnold Schwarzenegger
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:18:03 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Does it's style of battling remind anyone else of Mega Sableye?
aampk · 1 points · Posted at 17:12:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
no, it reminds me of sturdy metal burst aggron
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:17:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I meant how the Sun & Moon website stated that it's weak point was it's stomach and that it battled opponents by using an explosive tactic once it's prey comes in contact with it's shell. So it seems as if the shell would be it's defense?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:16:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
More like Mega Sceptile
SmilesTheFox · 1 points · Posted at 17:10:47 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Shell be baaak
Rizzan8 · 1 points · Posted at 17:14:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
An explosive turtle?
tertang · 1 points · Posted at 23:00:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Screenshot*
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:02:14 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
**Screenshots. Read the comments.
tertang · 2 points · Posted at 23:56:40 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Maybe it's because I'm on mobile but only one picture appears.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:42:17 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
This is the second 7th gen pokemon that I actually like the design of after Sandit, but I don't see how this is a dragon.
KingCabbage · 1 points · Posted at 02:05:08 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I just hope they leave SOME of the game in mystery...
sandiskplayer34 · 0 points · Posted at 16:01:44 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Look at it, a dragon type that actually looks like a dragon! Cool!
sigismond0 · 5 points · Posted at 16:23:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Looks like a turtle to me.
Wolfyhunter · 10 points · Posted at 16:14:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Kliang9281 · 4 points · Posted at 16:26:07 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It looks more like Birdo and Bowser had an ugly ass baby to me.
NoizMind · 1 points · Posted at 16:26:14 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Poor Charizard...
inhaledcorn · 1 points · Posted at 16:37:59 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I.... really don't like the design. It's just really painful to look at.
... It also kinda looks like Hoopa-Unbound for some reason.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 16:46:37 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The colour scheme maybe?
inhaledcorn · 2 points · Posted at 16:50:44 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, that's basically why. That's really not doing it any favors.
If it had a better color scheme, maybe it would be more tolerable. Oh well, maybe it'll look better shiny.
ChopStickMiracle · 0 points · Posted at 16:14:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Charizard cries again with the reveal of another goofy dragon type in the alola region. Kinda looks like Kappa from Yokai Watch
Thunder-Fist · 0 points · Posted at 00:09:37 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
T
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:22:41 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I agree.
blueraichu · -4 points · Posted at 19:39:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not going to lie...the names this generation are awful.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:39:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why?
blueraichu · -3 points · Posted at 19:40:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
They are all really awkward puns... Gumshoo, whose design I love but I wish they gave a better name.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:41:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, just like all the previous generations...
blueraichu · -2 points · Posted at 19:48:08 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I might be wrong but I feel like it wasn't this bad....Raichu for instance..
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 19:53:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ekans, Seel, Spoink, Throh, Trubbish, Exploud, Magikarp, Meowth. It's a running theme in the franchise to have a few bad pun names.
Kendall_Raine · 2 points · Posted at 23:12:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Let's not forget about hitmonchan/hitmonlee. Just "hit" and the name of a famous martial artist.
And squirtle, just squirt + turtle
charmander, char + salamander
Pikachu is actually a pun too in japanese, it means the sound of a spark and a mouse's squeak
Could probably go on and on...
jgreever3 · -6 points · Posted at 16:58:55 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's hideous
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 17:11:08 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
How is it spoiler?
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 17:24:08 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
What are you on about?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:37:02 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It was shown as spoiler on my reddit. Had to hover over the title to see it.
But now it is not?
otaku2696 · 2 points · Posted at 17:59:12 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I guess mods saw it was an official reveal and got rid of the spoiler tag.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:37:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hmmm interesting...
jinreeko · -2 points · Posted at 18:58:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
If people want to remain unaware of the new pokes until they actually play the game, it's a spoiler
nazeki · 2 points · Posted at 20:16:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I really do understand how those people feel but at the same time Its really not realistic for people to visit this sub expect everything to be perfectly tagged. (And as others have stated in the past official reveals are not spoilers so if anyone really wants to stay in the dark till release they might want to unsub till they have the game)
jinreeko · 1 points · Posted at 20:38:16 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I will respectfully disagree with you. /r/asoiaf is a good sub that manages to have varying degrees of spoiler tags. Stuff gets through, I'm sure, but it works for the most part
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:56:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Everything that is officialy revealed is not a spoiler. This topic was discussed here months ago.
Cole4Christmas · -1 points · Posted at 04:44:01 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
There are more Pokémon based on turtles than there are pure Flying type Pokémon
Permafox · 5 points · Posted at 05:23:22 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
There's...more of everything than there are pure flying types, so long as it has more than 1 in that category
11Slimeade11 · 1 points · Posted at 13:50:52 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's only 3 based on Turtles.
quiqksilver · 0 points · Posted at 16:00:46 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Did it drop a nuke??? lol
EruSugumichi · 0 points · Posted at 16:10:57 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Didn't notice this post cuz title is in spoilers. Bad typing for a bad day!
Kate925 · 0 points · Posted at 18:32:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The move Dragon Pulse is still pointed directly at the ground I see. Or in X and Y was it pointed at the sky? Either way it still doesn't seem to be pointed at the Pokemon. When the camera pans over, you can kind of see the move shift up a bit.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 22:30:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
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henne-n · 1 points · Posted at 22:32:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The people, who make the games, have nothing to do with the anime team.
Rancorpiss · 0 points · Posted at 23:56:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Awesome concept, turtle dragon, could be epic, cool typing, maybe my favorite name in all of Pokemon.
But in my opinion, all that potential badassery is wasted on this design, everything about it is awkward to me.
Still waiting for a design other than salandlit to grab me this gen and it just hasn't happened
LegendofDragoon · 1 points · Posted at 00:50:20 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is it a turtle dragon, or a dragon turtle?
Crooty · 0 points · Posted at 06:13:18 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm really not feeling the designs I've seen so far
Darkwolfer2002 · 0 points · Posted at 17:34:14 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Could this be the evolution of...
Aiyakiu · -13 points · Posted at 16:11:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I feel like I'm the only person who kinda hates this thing. :/ I really liked 6th gen designs overall, but this thing screams "Gen 5" to me, the era in which I hated the designs of 90% of the mons there. I lament this.
trallnar · 6 points · Posted at 16:19:19 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I can understand the hate, it's a weird design. Personally I think it's the good kind of weird though
airstorm747 · 1 points · Posted at 17:50:29 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
From the front it looks much better. And this is quite reminiscent of a Gen 5 Pokemon, not because it's ugly (and most Gen 5 Pokemon are not ugly) but because of it's design style.
HyperP0TI0N · -4 points · Posted at 16:29:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I honestly think Gen 5 had better designs than gen 6. Everything about Gen 6 sucks to me, but I'll grow on to like this one.
jinreeko · 0 points · Posted at 18:59:21 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
You're not. You and the top comments all dislike it
Aiyakiu · -1 points · Posted at 19:55:27 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The down votes are strong, though!
stephen2awesome · -4 points · Posted at 22:16:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is it me or are these Pokemon names getting more stupid?
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 22:20:05 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just you. Ekans, Seel, Spoink, Throh, Trubbish, Exploud, Magikarp, Meowth.
stephen2awesome · 0 points · Posted at 14:50:26 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Those are way more unique than the past 3 generations.
immortal_meme · 1 points · Posted at 01:38:53 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
its a turtle terminator/detonator
AceEntrepreneur · -10 points · Posted at 18:00:28 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It looks so fucking stupid
kharnzarro · 7 points · Posted at 20:23:53 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
to be fair the animal its based on looks ugly as well
TempAlt0 · 2 points · Posted at 18:05:59 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm not a fan of the design either, but it does look better in the video IMO.
save-iour · -2 points · Posted at 16:00:14 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why is it dragon though? Why is everything dragon now?
driaanb · 11 points · Posted at 16:02:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_turtle
save-iour · 3 points · Posted at 16:03:56 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh, I see, thanks!
Oreoghoul · 10 points · Posted at 16:01:18 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Isnt there only like 2 dragons this gen so far?
Psyduckisnotaduck · 9 points · Posted at 16:02:42 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Three counting Alola Exeggutor.
Despada_ · 1 points · Posted at 16:04:11 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Three.
Drampa, Alola Exeggutor, and not this new Pokemon.
save-iour · 0 points · Posted at 16:02:44 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
What I mean is, this thing doesn't look much like a dragon, does it?
ZB314 · 2 points · Posted at 16:32:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I can't speak for Exeggutor, but I don't think every dragon type should be designed to look like traditional dragons, like Drampa is clearly going for. At least Turtonator is reptilian.
Chokolla · -2 points · Posted at 17:07:51 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ash greninja looks great !
puppybeef · -1 points · Posted at 20:02:58 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
What a joke name
Draycen · 1 points · Posted at 02:01:34 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Turtle+Detonator.
Personally I think it's a better name than Snake spelled backwards
Codyislong · -6 points · Posted at 17:32:59 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wow, that is the ugliest pokemon I've ever seen.
zappbranniganop · -4 points · Posted at 02:51:07 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
This might be the ugliest pokemon I've ever seen...
Ski2204 · -1 points · Posted at 16:00:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Looks like fire squirtle
CaribbeanRockIguana · 13 points · Posted at 16:29:04 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
What kinda squirtles have you been lookin at, lad
Ingenious_name · -1 points · Posted at 17:51:05 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
شيء شيء الجهاد
PokemonConcepts · -1 points · Posted at 20:09:23 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I guess it looks.... interesting ._.
aaronunderwater · -1 points · Posted at 03:41:11 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 06:32:42 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes, I've transferred from both XY & ORAS. None of the stones went with them. The games come out in 2 months, if there were mega evolutions I'm sure we'd know by now. They didn't keep mega evolution a long secret when ORAS was coming out, nor did they for XY. Mega evolutions are not in Alola.
Permafox · 1 points · Posted at 06:11:49 on August 21, 2016 · (Permalink)
There's a very old phrase that's used to very quickly deal with your argument.
Absence of proof is not proof of absence.
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lumpygnome · 4 points · Posted at 20:55:15 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The only slightly off putting details are it's tail and nose to me. The rest is fantastic.
zzdarkwingduck · 1 points · Posted at 22:59:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
yeah same here, tail i could get over, but the mouth/nose thing probably not. The shell is cool.
Permafox · 4 points · Posted at 23:50:47 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Have you seen a mata Mata turtle? This looks comparable, just more spikes.
airstorm747 · 2 points · Posted at 20:32:28 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes, I frequent this sub and I genuinely dislike it. I do like the concept though.
Criminon · -3 points · Posted at 20:55:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah this thing is horrid.
Slav_1 · -6 points · Posted at 18:53:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
pretty shit. I would have preferred a Torkoal Mega.
VoidHaunter · -4 points · Posted at 03:07:35 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I was really liking all of the designs so far, but this? This is just horrible.
mrcrysml · -7 points · Posted at 17:07:10 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
One of the fugliest Pokemon ever. Lots of ugly new Pokemon this gen.
will1707 · -2 points · Posted at 15:59:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
This dude's "hot" cousin?
triscary · -2 points · Posted at 16:13:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
SID THE SLOTH CONFIRMED
pppp31 · -2 points · Posted at 16:31:47 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
"Screenshots" as in plural. There's only 1 image.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:48:01 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Will update it in a bit. But others can link to the other info in the comments so it's fine.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:13:00 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/4yd1bn/new_sun_and_moon_pokemon_screenshots/d6n038p
iTiffany · -2 points · Posted at 05:39:59 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just give us a Torkal mega evolution instead of this thing.
drygnfyre · -1 points · Posted at 05:54:51 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I almost wonder if this might be a Torkoal evolution.
sixarmedOctopus · -8 points · Posted at 19:51:05 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Y'all aren't trying to avoid spoilers anymore.
[deleted] · 11 points · Posted at 19:52:27 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's not a spoiler. Read the rules.
sixarmedOctopus · -6 points · Posted at 19:56:37 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Honestly, I wanted to go into the game with 0 info. That got ruined the first time something came out. I'm not salty or upset. Just saying that to me, this is a spoiler and this sub isn't avoiding them anymore
Criminon · 11 points · Posted at 20:57:36 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Then don't hop on reddit. Honestly you self entitled people are fucking annoying. You chose to go on here. No one should have to cater to you.
[deleted] · 10 points · Posted at 19:57:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
No we are not. If you want to avoid spoilers, stay away from this sub.
sixarmedOctopus · -6 points · Posted at 20:03:37 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Cause that's a user friendly statement
FoxOfShadows · 7 points · Posted at 20:40:37 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
The problem is that a front page completely filled with spoiler tags (as is usually the case when something leaks) isn't really that user friendly either. The belief here is that since this is info purposely released by Nintendo, it's not really a spoiler
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:04:46 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
eh? http://puu.sh/qG4Z3/63bba32653.png
sixarmedOctopus · -1 points · Posted at 20:15:37 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not a literal term bro
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:16:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
OK I just don't understand what you mean that's all.
sixarmedOctopus · -1 points · Posted at 20:20:46 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Some people should still be able to subscribe to this sub and not get spoiled. By spoiled I mean learn something about the new game. All it takes is a NSFW tag
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:21:13 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well rules are rules. And I don't make them, sorry.
sixarmedOctopus · 1 points · Posted at 20:22:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Told you I'm not upset. It is what it is
Permafox · 3 points · Posted at 05:41:17 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd have liked to go into the game blind myself, I totally understand where you're coming from, but there's a problem with our wish.
We're on Reddit, actually, let's broaden that. We're on a social media site, where information spreads far and wide very, very quickly.
I don't have the strength of will to completely avoid this subreddit because I'm hooked on new information, it's too late for me, but you still have the choice to avoid it. The rule of the sub, decided a month or more back, is that anything officially revealed by Nintendo isn't a spoiler, but fair game. That doesn't work for everyone, that's life unfortunately, and it just means you'll have to adapt because the sub has its rules set and I don't imagine them changing now.
Really and truly, just try to avoid this sub til release day, or until whenever you feel comfortable with knowing the info, people perfectly respect the desire to stay clear of news, but there's too many (myself sadly included) who can't back out now, it's too late for us.
We have boarded the hype train, it is bright and glorious.
Run.
Criminon · 4 points · Posted at 21:00:43 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Some people should realize that the world doesn't revolve around them, and just because they want something doesn't mean they are going to get it. To try to force people to do something just so you can live in your perfect little fairy world is completely ludicrous, and honestly it's more toxic than the way I'm typing to you.
Now I do apologize for coming off harsh with the several messages I have sent you, but you really need to take a good long look at what you're telling people to do.
YOU want to go into the game with no spoilers. No one else. So if this is the case, why does EVERYONE ELSE have to cater to you?
This kind of shit happens no where else, but the fucking internet, especially for games, and it blows my mind. If you don't like this shit, make a new sub called pokemonnospoilers or some shit.
sixarmedOctopus · 2 points · Posted at 21:44:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't want the whole sub to change for me. But I do remember them saying they would try to keep it possible to remain spoiler free on this sub. Which it's not. Again, I'm not mad or salty. Just pointing out that the mods/people of this sub are not doing what, IN MY OPINION, they should
Ferretsroq · 2 points · Posted at 21:53:39 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hi there. The definition of a spoiler on this sub means "Anything not officially revealed by Nintendo." We took a vote on this and our users largely voted for this definition.
Even if we tried to spoiler-tag everything related to the new games, it wouldn't work - we're human, we don't catch everything right as it gets posted, spoilers will get through.
I understand what you're saying, but it honestly can't be reasonably achieved. I wanted 0 spoilers for XY, and I had to go cold turkey on reddit and all gaming news sites for months to preserve that. It's really the only way to guarantee you won't see anything about the new games.
sixarmedOctopus · 2 points · Posted at 21:57:41 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I understand. I wasn't trying to start an argument. Thanks for the reply.
Criminon · 1 points · Posted at 21:50:33 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Then drop it.
BotchedAttempt · 6 points · Posted at 20:22:31 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Dude, he's just giving you advice. He's not even saying it in a mean way. If you don't want to see spoilers, then this sub is going to be absolutely terrible until spoilers are no longer a concern for you.
Criminon · 4 points · Posted at 20:58:01 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
As stated before, no one has to pamper you. You're a big boy. You don't blame fire for getting burnt.
Permafox · 2 points · Posted at 23:53:44 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I bet he does
Criminon · 1 points · Posted at 23:54:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Burnnnn
Permafox · 1 points · Posted at 00:24:38 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Don't blame me, blame Reddit for hosting the comment, matter of fact, let's just blame the internet as a whole, nothing could possibly go wrong with that
Criminon · 1 points · Posted at 01:28:12 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
looooooooool
Ychip · -17 points · Posted at 16:27:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
eugh... the best designs so far are redesigns of gen1
Baldy17 · -5 points · Posted at 17:38:24 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I still don't get why Vulpix would suddenly turn into an ice type in a tropical region ... Almost all of the new Sun/Moon Pokemon look hideous. Hopefully I can just catch a bunch of Gen 1/2 Pokemon early on so I don't have to use the new ones.
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Baldy17 · 0 points · Posted at 00:25:30 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Or I could just play the game the way I want to play it. Thanks.
GekiKudo · 2 points · Posted at 00:30:19 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Alright friend its your wasted 40 bucks
InsidAero · 1 points · Posted at 00:50:34 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
So you're just avoiding being able to find out what you don't understand.
Baldy17 · 0 points · Posted at 00:55:43 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Or I could stick to what I like?
InsidAero · 1 points · Posted at 00:57:52 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Then do that instead of complaining about something you don't get. You can't have it both ways.
Baldy17 · 0 points · Posted at 01:10:42 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm entitled to voice my opinion, just as you are. I don't like the designs of the new Pokemon.
InsidAero · 2 points · Posted at 02:46:24 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Says the one downvoting me.
Your opinion is fine, you're just being ignorant about part of it.
luluskywalker · -3 points · Posted at 00:02:22 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
What's up with Pokemon and fire turtles?
Permafox · 4 points · Posted at 00:13:02 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
We've got two so far, shouldn't you be asking why they like rodents, or cats, or canids, or normal/flying birds?
luluskywalker · 1 points · Posted at 00:49:00 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
True that.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:02:42 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nothing. What do you mean?
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[deleted] · -4 points · Posted at 23:16:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ick. Bad design.
Looks worse than your average fakemon.
[deleted] · -3 points · Posted at 03:14:34 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Mega Evolution isn't in Alola, if it was then you'd be able to save your megas in PokéBank, and you can't. When you put pokémon with mega stones in the bank the stones get removed. Found this out last night when I was transferring my pokémon from ORAS.
Psycho_Bacon · 3 points · Posted at 03:51:55 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just means if it is you'll have to refind the mega stones just like going from xy to oras you couldn't transfer it didn't mean it wasn't in the next game. Nothing is ruled out yet
Permafox · 1 points · Posted at 05:24:46 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
You didn't transfer anything from XY, did you?
DiableLord · -5 points · Posted at 01:42:35 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Am I the only one who finds this extremely ugly? It reminds me of that spit fire pokemon from 5th gen that no one liked except even uglier. I mostly like this gen but this guy is probably my most disliked so far.
zetraex · 1 points · Posted at 01:48:29 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Heatmor.
Draycen · 1 points · Posted at 01:55:47 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hey I liked Heatmore!
DCENTRLIZEintrnetPLZ · -19 points · Posted at 21:09:53 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
These new Pokemon just look more and more like imaginary BS. The original Pokemon looked like animals or were at least based on things that exist IRL. That's what made them likable / relatable.
[deleted] · 13 points · Posted at 21:11:09 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
This exists in real life, as do other turtles. Voltorb does not. Your argument is terribly invalid.
tertiusiii · 9 points · Posted at 23:44:38 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
what the fuck is a jigglypuff?
DCENTRLIZEintrnetPLZ · 1 points · Posted at 00:55:20 on August 29, 2016 · (Permalink)
Obviously based off a velociraptor.
unusedwings · 11 points · Posted at 21:26:14 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ditto, Electrode/Voltorb, Porygon, Mewtwo/mew, etc...
Please go back to your genwunner echo chamber elsewhere.
DCENTRLIZEintrnetPLZ · -4 points · Posted at 21:35:49 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
What's that?
unusedwings · 4 points · Posted at 21:38:10 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Go back and read my comment again and you should be able to figure it out.
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Permafox · 6 points · Posted at 23:43:47 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Or how about those sentient rocks? Now I feel bad about all the geodes I've broken that were just waiting to evolve.
Permafox · 4 points · Posted at 23:41:26 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Please make a list of Pokémon based off of "things that exist IRL", then a list of Pokémon that don't, and compare the two. You might be surprised if you're willing to do some actual thinking and not just complaining.
Cybersmash · -5 points · Posted at 20:12:20 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm not bashing on the new gen here or anything, don't get me wrong; but does anyone else just feel the Pokemon designs for this generation are very subpar? There's definitely a few cool ones, and the alolan forms are amazing as well but many of the designs just look so unpolished or lazy. Obviously after 700+ pokemon unused ideas start to run thin, but I'm just not digging a lot of these new guys like I usually do.
10strip · 8 points · Posted at 20:50:40 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ideas running thin? You realize there are over 3 million living species of animals? Then there are plants, mythical creatures, inanimate objects, plus scientific and philosophical concepts as well. Good luck running out of material in our universe!
Cybersmash · -6 points · Posted at 20:52:26 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
This is like the 5th turtle Pokemon, they definitely aren't utilizing all of these things.
EphemeralSonata · 5 points · Posted at 21:38:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Because there's only one species of turtle in the world.
Cybersmash · -2 points · Posted at 21:46:48 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I personally do not enjoy the new Pokemon, however I enjoy the new Alolan designs, as I said earlier. Just stating an opinion friend. There are obviously many turtles.
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Cybersmash · 1 points · Posted at 22:47:17 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah that's why I said. I wasn't 'proven wrong' about anything, I expressed an opinion that the designs are becoming stale, once again, in my opinion. Some guy said there's a lot of species, I said I think there's too many turtles. The entire point of my post was the fact I don't like certain designs from this generation. Like there's a good amount of monkeys in the game, obviously they're based on different kinds of monkeys, but maybe we don't need a bunch of different species of monkeys. Personally I'd just rather they do what they did with X/Y and make a few, well designed new Pokemon and expand on the world. I just think the new pokemans look shitty.
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Cybersmash · 2 points · Posted at 02:20:27 on August 21, 2016 · (Permalink)
ok dad
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Cybersmash · 0 points · Posted at 22:22:11 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Like 40 minutes ago I very clearly acknowledged there are many turtles. I'm just sick of them in games.
Ikkakuocity · -6 points · Posted at 03:38:04 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Honestly, if this is real, I really hate the way it looks, and it's a Fire/Dragon? Fuck that.
bugxter · -6 points · Posted at 03:38:02 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
It looks like shit.
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HyperP0TI0N · 4 points · Posted at 19:23:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Good thing most people here don't care what you think.
GekiKudo · 2 points · Posted at 21:50:54 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bro. Your first statement took away any credibilty for judging Pokemon. It's supposed to be ugly because the animal it's based on is ugly.
Also I find it hilarious when people refer to themselves as an insulting term. Like when someone calls themselves a weeaboo.
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GekiKudo · 2 points · Posted at 05:16:39 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bruh. There is nothing good about being a weeaboo. A weeaboo is a horrible unhygienic person that bases all knowledge they have of Japan on anime. They renounce their own culture and claim to be Japanese. They speak in broken Japanese all the time and make asses out of themselves by making love to their body pillows.
A person can still be a fan of anime. I am a huge fan of anime. I collect anime merchandise. That doesn't make me a weeb. Don't get these two types of people mixed up.
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GekiKudo · 1 points · Posted at 05:22:33 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Then they are wrong.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OFQQALduhzA
This video does a perfect job describing what a weeaboo is. Weeaboo =\= anime fan.
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GekiKudo · 1 points · Posted at 05:57:59 on August 19, 2016 · (Permalink)
Who cares? The definition of the word stands far above people who don't know what they're saying.
banquuuooo · -7 points · Posted at 19:41:19 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm not sure how I feel about this gens Pokemon. At first I thought this guy was stupid, but his intro video makes him a little better in my books.
Seems to me that Pokemon is getting dangerously close to the "all the good Pokemon design ideas were taken already, but we need more money" territory.
Baldy17 · -35 points · Posted at 16:11:34 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
It looks awful. Every Pokemon this new generation just looks garbage.
ZB314 · 18 points · Posted at 16:34:25 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
We haven't gotten a single new garbage Pokemon since gen 5.
Kamineigh · 3 points · Posted at 16:55:16 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bah-dum-tss
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airstorm747 · 1 points · Posted at 18:15:32 on August 18, 2016 · (Permalink)
How so?