You aren't alone. I have always found something very lovely about his face. Maybe I read into it because of what I know about war but his eyes seem to jump out of pictures. They are so soulful.
Now that you mention it, I think you're right. It's the brow ridge. The rest of his face helps too but you pointed out what I couldn't put my finger on.
Sahnura ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel it. I think, for me, it's just he has a lot of unique features. I love people with rememberable faces, you know, weird noses, face shapes, scars, etc. That kind of thing is super attractive to me, within reason.
I seriously don't understand what makes him so ugly. He has very strong/masculine features, i.e. a very strong jaw, cheekbones, and brow. Plus he has some great hair. Maybe it's all just a bit too strong? I dunno.
Tiekyl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's the way his lips sit, personally.
There's just..too much, and they're too far forward.
Yup! As a dude, I really like interesting features. My wife has the pudgiest of noses. She hates it. I think it gives her character and wouldn't have it any other way.
I recognize "hot" people as hot, but they all look the same to me.
Only been married a year and some change. But looking back, none of the women I dated were cookie cutter chicks.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:43:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it's because you already know that he was a president so your brain defaults to also giving him gravitas that you wouldnt give to an accountant with that face, you know? But also those cheekbones..
chao06 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's also personally iconic, probably more so than anyone in American history since the founding fathers.
At the Lincoln-Douglas debates, Douglas called him two-faced, to which Lincoln replied, "I leave it to my audience: If had two faces, would I be wearing this one?"
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:00:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The type of character that came through the dustbowl and great depression and back.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:03:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...guh?
rowinit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:56:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they meant that he looks as though he COULD have gone through that.... I'm just going to hope that's the case, to avoid having to start some rant about the state of education.
At the event where Lincoln gave the Gettysburg Address, Edward Everett, a well known speaker of his day, was asked to speak for two hours with time to prepare his speech beforehand. His speech, called the Gettysburg Oration, is very well done and quite poetic. Afterwards, Lincoln asked to speak for a moment, completely unprepared, and gave the famous Gettysburg Address. Everett spoke to him afterwards and said,
"I should be glad, if I could flatter myself that I came as near to the central idea of the occasion, in two hours, as you did in two minutes..." and praised the "eloquent simplicity & appropriateness" of Lincoln's speech.
Lincoln completely trumped one of the best, most experienced speakers of his time without any preparation at all, and with very little formal education. Just goes to show what an incredible man he was.
veggiter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:59:46 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't it actually unusual back then to speak for such a short amount of time?
It sounds like it was fairly standard. Regarding the longer speech by Everett, I found a quote on Wikipedia, "Lengthy dedication addresses like Everett's were common at cemeteries in this era. The tradition began in 1831 when Justice Joseph Story delivered the dedication address at Mount Auburn Cemetery in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Those addresses often linked cemeteries to the mission of Union." [1]
From what I gather, Lincoln was invited to give the closing remarks of the ceremony, so very little was expected in terms of time and content - but Lincoln was moved by Everett's words and the sacrifices of the soldiers buried in the new cemetery, and delivered something even more heartfelt
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good catch.
durtysox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, he was known for that. Had a ready wit, and a tendency to make the joke be about himself.
I'd hazard he was the funniest President, at least on purpose. There were plenty who were accidentally funny. We don't talk about Ford and his pratfalls any longer. Gerald could not stay up on his pins. That's not funny after a while, just worrisome and pitiful.
Bush Jr. said a lot of malapropisms, but there is IMO ample evidence that he was high as a kite on prescription drugs throughout his presidency. You can check out any speech from when he's Governor versus when he's President, it's a marked change in verbal ability. Again, just worrisome and pitiful.
But for deliberate intelligent humor, I think Lincoln wins.
Really? I dont find him ugly. As mentioned interesting looking but hes really not ugly.
Reahu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too, his face is really unique in a way. Really easy to spot and recognize (maybe because I'm so used to seeing him but also maybe not), imo a perfect face for a national icon.
Yea thats really the best way to say it. Its unique and doesn't follow the typical attributes of a man you would consider to be good looking. However he is by no means ugly.
"None of the artists or pictures has caught the deep, though subtle and indirect expression of this manโs face. There is something else there. One of the great portrait painters of two or three centuries ago is needed." - Walt Whitman on Lincoln
Back in the late 1980s when I was a little girl, before we had the internet - I sometimes used to entertain myself by looking through our encyclopedias. Abraham Lincolns page was my very favourite (I'm not even from the USA). I used to stare at his picture and I seriously thought I had known him or something.
In fact the favourite theory at the moment is that he had MEN2b, a genetic disease which mimics Marfan syndrome in looks but also has several other endocrine and cancer problems.
I think it was something to do with entries in his diaries about symptoms consistent with MEN. If I get time I'll dig it out.
[deleted] ยท 154 points ยท Posted at 15:57:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just realized that my hair could be like that if I got a little swoopy with it. Same hairline, similar hair type. I'm gonna have to try a Lincoln out at some point. But not to the theater.
lewdmoo ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I thought for Obama's tie. In his first Address, the red tie is carefully centered and knotted. By the last one, it's a lil bulgy looking and def off center. Our country's OP is so over it.
Abe looks like that guy that shows up at Thanksgiving, friends of your uncle or something, and asks you if you want to go smoke a bowl in the garage while everybody else watches football.
svtguy88 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:12:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...so, apparently my family is not the only family this happens in.
He looks so much younger without the beard. I can't imagine how big a toll the civil war must have taken on him, the stress of a country your in charge of tearing itself apart must be insane.
lbmouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus I heard that he was on a helluva 4 year bender during the war. When he finally sobered up, his first words where, "I freed who?!?"
Technically, the war was still ongoing. This picture was taken on April 10; Johnston did not begin meeting with Sherman about terms of surrender until April 18, and Jefferson Davis was not captured until May 10. And Kirby Smith did not surrender his army until May 26.
I always thought Lincoln was cool ugly. He's the type of ugly that implies he's seen some shit and would defeat you in any disagreement. Not the weird guy who smells bad and is always trying to pay with subway token ugly.
dsa_key ยท 4671 points ยท Posted at 14:05:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Age 46 to 54 is a bitch apparently.
ElCaz ยท 4017 points ยท Posted at 14:45:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People like to talk about presidential aging, and sure, stress probably doesn't help. But 8 years between late 40s and 50s, you're going to see significant changes on everybody
You're absolutely right. I'm 45 with older siblings who are 54 & 55 and we look nothing alike due to the difference of that decade. Not to say stress doesn't play a part but everybody looks different than their 8 year younger self at just about any age.
my dad could pass for being in his 30's all the way to like 53~ then BAM he was definitely 50~, wrinkles, grey hair in beard and head, they weren't even that bad but her certainly wasn't 30~
[deleted] ยท 503 points ยท Posted at 15:12:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Friend of mine traveled to Mexico. While drinking at a bar, he mentioned that he didn't see any middle aged women around town. There seemed to only be young, attractive women, or older, less attractive women. No one in between.
The guy on the stool next to him told him, "The beeg ones... eat the leetle ones."
rburp ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:39:01 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just want to express that that is really really funny.
You have correctly described my Asian mother. I'm currently home on winter break and I got yelled at the other day for mixing chicken and vegetables with rice instead of eating them separately.
[deleted] ยท 250 points ยท Posted at 16:31:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's true the sun ages them. But outs not only that a lot of white people I know don't use sunscreen or moisturize like they should and have crap diets on top of that. That's the major key to staying Young
In all honestly white people wrinkle easily but age consistently. Asian skin stays smooth for longer but sags quickly once old age and gravity catches up. Black skin gets a lot of pigmentation issues with age.
smeenz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:41:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I swear she looked 18, your honour
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Was passing for 18+ at 15 and buying liquor without being ID'd at 19. My age and appearance sync'd up ~25. Now at 32, and at about 40-pounds-down from when I was 31, people are surprised to learn I'm older than 28.
I usually think they're talking out of their asses, though. But it'll catch up to me.
I swear my mom got younger after menopause, she also had cancer at the same time and went through some serious shit, lost all her hair, was sick all th time.. but after that she looked younger, I mean she still gets wrinkles and doesn't have a scary botox baby face but her attitude, hairstyles, the way she dresses, it's youthful and yet classy. There seeems to be some point in women and men that they decide they need to dress like old people for comfort. And get old people haircuts. And yeah they age a ton after that even if they didn't get any wrinkles they would still look old. All pants are now elastic waists, printed embroidered sweaters, the ball perm haircut, maybe its comfortable and they don't give a shit. But in my moms case (who is 70 now) she still loves fashion,we hit the gym together, takes care of her skin, and still goes dancing and other active things. (and she re-married a few years ago to a younger guy, so there's that..) Yeah she still feels the age in a few health problems, but she really is my motivation for getting older. Why give up on things you love, you can really maintain a lot of your young self if you spend time taking care of it.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:19:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad your mom's well and sharing her wonderfulness. I hope I'm that awesome at half her age.
Glad your mom is doing well. I imagine a lot of it has to do with feeling like you've got something to live for, otherwise it just gets easier to let yourself go. "I'm old and gonna die soon, why bother." That and genetics will also play a part.
BB-r8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL Obama went through menopause during his presidency.
BigMax ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:28:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife went from 28 to her 60's right after the wedding.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:16:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just turned 30. When I checked in at my kid's school to pick her up, there was an argument over whether I was actually her mom or older sister trying to play hooky. I look 14, but I have the Gandalf eyebags of a mom who has been sick of your shit for a decade.
I don't see what is so hard to believe about him aging. Guy was late 40's. On top of this let's see pictures of a lot of people on here from 8 years ago. When I visited my old friends from highschool (5 years after graduating) They were already beginning to look aged and pretty much all my friends becoming over weight and with their young partying lifestyle. I mean geeeezzz. They were like "you still look the same from highschool." Which I replied "...you too... :/ " Honestly, this guy is right on point, aging pretty graceful.
I could probably get away with it if I dyed my hair. I'm now 25-33% gray. Probably inherited from my mother โ she and her mother both went gray early.
Same. I mean my dad doesn't look old but somewhere in his mid 50s he changed from looking like he was 35 to looking like he was 60. It seemed so sudden like he aged overnight or something. He's still a strong badass he always was but the day I noticed he looked older it made me super sad because I realized truthfully that he doesn't have that much time left before he will not be able to shoot hoops like he does now.
He'll always be able to kick my ass in everything because he is pure muscle and wisdom and I'll be an old man before he becomes an old man but it's still weird to see him this way.
But I'm 33 and have a ton of gray in my beard and the hair on my head...
argort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:08 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. The last time I needed to get a photo id the photo that I used was from 2006. Nobody blinked an eye. I'm in my mid 40s. I seem like I haven't aged-but my knees aren't the same.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:40:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey actually someone with a huge age gap between siblings like me. I read some article that the youngest makes the most jokes, do you find that true?
Yeah, I probably am the biggest wise ass of my clan. My spread is fairly wide too and I'm the youngest of 5. Our birth years are 60, 61, 63, 64, and whoops 70.
I didn't look much older at 29 than I did at 21, and at 33 I was still getting hit on by college dudes, which was weird as fuck. I'm 51 now and have managed to avoid most of the ravages of time, though menopause is the great equalizer and my skin - WTF - is turning to crepe as the collagen breaks down. That shit happens fast so keep yourself moisturized with a good, non-glycol/alcohol based skin cream - guys too - my husband is hitting the SAME wall, as collagen isn't really affected by hormones so much as time.
This is different though, it seems like he just went from thirty to sixty in 8 years from this picture.
The_LTM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read somewhere that our bodies tend to age in 7 year increments (from a visual outwardly appearance). Meaning every 7ish years there should be obvious changes in how we look. This isn't scientifically backed, just an observation.
wolfJam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not that huge of a change. Not like turning into a stooped senior...just you go from looking like a weathered thirty year old to looking like you're a functioning alcoholic forty year old even if you don't drink
When I turn 40 in a few years, I want to start telling people I'm 50 so that they say: "Wow, you look AWESOME for 50!" and I can wink and it'll be my little secret.
Luckily for me, I'll never have to worry about that.
BMWbill ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:17:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck. Me too. And my hair is already gray on the sides. We are about to turn into old folks overnight!
teefour ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:18:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I suggest tattooing a line on your thigh every 6 months where your balls hang to to track your progress. It'll be a great memento for the grandkids one day.
Ha!! Hahaaaaaaahaaha...wooohooo!! Finally! Someone older than me on reddit! Oh thank you, God....was starting to feel like a man on an island. (Just turned 40)
When i started at my new job last year, i got to talking to a cute Estonian lass. During conversation in the busy break room, she said "how old do you think i am/look?". I said i wasn't going to fall for that, and told her i'm really bad at guessing ages.
She pointed to a chap at a table next to ours, and said "How old do you think he is?". I said "I dunno, forty?"
Dude turned around and said "I'm thirty eight! >:/" to which i replied "Thirty eight is forty".
It's been a year and that guy still doesn't like me.
I wasn't talking about me. I was talking about all the people I know that look pretty much the same at 60 as they did at 45. Of course, many of those people are in my family, so it's likely that it will happen to me as well. Sorry for all you suckers with awful genetics!
[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 14:58:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. Of course he's going to look obviously aged since his first term, because he has aged almost a decade.
Hence why people on hormone therapies look alot younger then their counterparts.
VaATC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually most physiological processes, including hormone production, start dropping approximately around the age of 30.
The following source does not directly say 30, but if you apply the approximate loss of 1% per year, most of the percentages lost by specific ages presented in the source lead you back to between age 30 and 40=
Nisas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the more important thing is that that's around when you start to go grey. So the changes are more pronounced than say 30 to 40.
bookon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:04:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was 43 when he became president and look almost exactly like my pictures from that time. It's crazy what stress does to you. I have friends my age (50) who look 60 and some who look 35. Maybe I'll go downhill in 5 years, but I think it has more to do with lifestyle (and genes) than anything else.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:22:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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bookon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not me who says that, it's everyone. I assume they are all not lying. Especially the ones who don't seem happy about it. I have all my hair, very little grey, and that seems to age people the most. Good Genes and Lifestyle mean a lot. Also, most people I know DON'T think that about 7 year old pictures.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:24:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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bookon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's true. I am a big guy. I don't have a "fat" face, but I assume if I lost 30 lbs I'd look older.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:28:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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bookon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am 6'1" and 260, but all my weight is in the torso. I find a lot of people look better in the face if they have a little extra. And older if they don't. Obama is very skinny. He's like 6'3" and something like 170. I assume 20 lbs would make him look 10 years younger.
Suckydog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:34:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie would be 75 at the time of his inauguration. There's a pretty good chance he'd die in office. Reagan was our oldest president yet, and he was 77 at the end of his 2 terms.
Honestly if he's in good health right now I don't think so. With access to the very best health care the country has he should be fine, especially if it's only one term.
When I say a "pretty good" chance, I'm not saying he's more likely to die in the next 5 years than he is to survive. His odds of dying in the next 5 years are significantly higher than any other candidate's, though. People that age (especially men) sometimes just drop dead without warning. If Bernie has a stroke in his sleep, no amount of secret service protection is going to realize what's happening before it's too late.
dekrant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:12:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But that doesn't explain how Bush 43 went from middle aged frat guy to grizzled grandpa. He looked younger than Jeb before and now he looks significantly older than him.
Pritzker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:15:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus, in all fairness, he looked INCREDIBLY YOUNG for 46 when he first took office.
CRISPR ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:19:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention this is an unflattering pic of him from last night.
bgar0312 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is always my point. It's just a time of your live when you are gonna change, probly not for the better.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno. I reckon George Clooney looks just as handsome as ever in his 50s, despite the grey hairs.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember that he was a smoker and had allegedly quit when he was first elected. I wonder how much more significantly that would have aged him had he never quit. Or maybe it would have kept him young, I'm no scientist.
If I knew how to upload pictures to here from my phone I'd show you my dad. From age 45 to 65 he hardly aged a day. Looks like the exact same person, even though he smokes nearly a pack a day and has a daughter that could make a toddler get grey hair in a year.
Depends on the person. When I look at photos from myself and friends during those years we did not age nearly as much. We don't look as tired for sure.
What about almost every actor that goes through those 8 years and looks the same? I know makeup has a lot to do with it but people like Clooney, Pitt, Denzel, Depp, all look pretty good.
Odbdb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to Hollywood stars that looks the same for 30 years.
isamura ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tom Cruise being the exception to this rule.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but imagine what Bernie sanders would look like before/after, good lord
Deathalo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you're that age, stuff starts falling apart. It's just life. Yeah, some people age fantastically; but they are exceptions to the rule. Outliers.
Not only that, but Obama has children too. It's not like he doesn't have a boatload of stress from just being a parent. Add in the stressful job (any stressful job, doesn't have to be president) and of course he's going to have aged quite a bit.
I mean shit, if you took a picture of someone when they're 25 and then one when they're 33, even they will look older. Some people will age 20 years in just 4 or 5. It's not a surprise anymore that Obama has aged.
narf3684 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We need a president with an identical twin, for science.
Yeah I'm 50 and just starting to see what my face would be like if I was an old lady (probably won't make it that far due to a bad autoimmune illness though).
Yes, but stress will certainly accelerate again. In 2007 and 2008 I was 32 and 33. It was the most stressful 2 years of my life. You can look at pictures of me at the beginning and end of the periods and see me go from looking young to looking middle aged and tired like it was sudden. It was early for me to go through that transition in my opinion, especially since looking young runs in my family.
Especially for Obama who had remarkably black hair up to that age. Most men are salt+pepper by 46, regardless of ethnicity.
My father still has mostly black hair at 70, but my mother has been grey since 28. We'll see where I fall. At 34 I don't have a single grey, even in my whiskers. Just need to hold out long enough to get a hot young wife!
Sean951 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can look at presidents several years after leaving office and they usually look younger than when they left office. Less stress, more sleep. Probably eating more because of the less stress.
For me it feels like aging is an accelerating process.
I hardly felt any difference from 18 to 28. Aside from style changes and a little weight gain there's not much difference between my 18 year old self and my 28 year old self. From 28 to 33 I started recognizing some definite changes - maybe a couple of gray hairs here and there. 5 years later at 38 and a good quarter of my hair is gray. I no longer look young โ that's the long and short of it. I don't have wrinkles yet (maybe a few faint creases in my forehead and around my eyes). But back in my early 30s someone might mistake me for being in my early 20s. But now I definitely look my age.
cgibson6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I hate it when people talk about how fast president's age because of the stress. I am not doubting that they are under insane amounts of stress and that this might have an effect on their physical appearance but look at anyone's transition over that same age and time frame and you are going to see the same thing for everyone.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but the huge amount of stress makes the differences more extreme.
Nalivai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 33 and I look like shit compared to my 25 year old self. Less hair and more love handles. Natural muscle tone without lifting a finger: gone. Let's not kid ourselves. We'd all be lucky to look as good as Obama as his age.
Unless you're a celebrity! They never age horribly.
lalondtm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:29 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish more people understood this concept. Sure, it's a stressful job and stress has negative effects on the human body, but your body goes through some pretty significant changes around that 50 mark. If this was just stress related, could you imagine if Bernie Sanders wins? Shit, he'd be fucking dead before he could run for reelection.
For some people not really. My dad is 58 and doesn't look significantly different from in his early 40s besides his beard and hair going a little salt-and-pepper.
lapekes ยท 644 points ยท Posted at 14:40:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is true. Everything that he says is actually the alien parasite we see as his hair controlling his body. The real Donald Trump can see everything thats happening but can't prevent it. He is weeping and desperately begging to be set free.
JD_1994_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:21:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Will it start by giving the new host a small loan of a million dollars?
It's hilarious when people actually defend his rhetoric and try to make it seem like he's beyond clever for making a mockery of the system. My outspoken drunk deadbeat uncle has literally said the same stupid shit at family outings for the past 15 years and the only one to ever take him seriously is my other drunk racist uncle.
I don't know. I can't see him really internalizing the shit that happens under his Presidency. I feel like everything would just roll off his shoulders. He'd probably be the only President to look the same or better after a term or two.
Trump would stay about the same. The Presidency is stressful because you make important decisions that affect millions of lives and the course of world history.
This is stressful if you care about other people. If you only care about yourself, meh, whatever. The adrenaline from all that power might actually make him look and feel younger.
luv2race ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like there's a good chance Trump wouldn't stress out on the job as much as other presidents. Does Trump want to be woken up at 3AM with a terrorism alert? No. He'd probably delegate all that stuff in favor of a more relaxing lifestyle. Just my 2 cents.
Trump would grow stronger and emanate golden rays of freedom from the tips of his golden locks. Other countries would begin to worship him as a deity while America wins the World Cup, Davis Cup, Ryder Cup, President's Cup, and couple of other cups. All virgins will get laid and all SJWs will join cults like the Reaganites or Reaganetians with the central tenet a belief in supply side economics. He's going to make America great again.
It really is. In politics the ideal job is the senate. Power, money, perks out the ass, and you largely fly under the radar. There is a reason why it seems like most presidential candidates are nut jobs.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its a real breaking bad kinda job
fnhflexy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
antilaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are YouTube videos about how Obama smoked crack before he was pres, maybe he smokes allot of crack, also that Obama had gay oral giving to him. YouTube search Obama is gay proof.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, the first three years have been nothing but constant criticism, sleepless nights, constant scrutiny by an entire nation. Know what? I want five more years of that shit. I'm running for reelection!
[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 15:06:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Nebias ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:24:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish someone would have told that to 16 year old me. Maybe then I wouldn't have gotten this small patch of grey hair on my temple area when I was super stressed for weeks. Haven't gotten any other grey hair on my head since (a little over 10 years) but that grey patch remains ever vigilant.
As for genetics, my father is 56 years old and in poor health but he still has only a little little grey hair on his head of brown hair and never had a grey patch like i do. Beard is a different story.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone gets gray hair, but the sadness and those stresslines in his face say it all.
kickulus ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:33:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scientific proof not necessary. Just look at every president before and after.
Self control is a limited mental resource. Having a lot in one area of your life doesn't necessarily mean you have it in others, and it may even mean you have less. Look at Bill Clinton for an obvious example.
cgibson6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man this is so true. Thanks for pointing it out. I am vigilant with work but when it comes to eating healthy I cannot do shit about it. Its like I use all my self control points on other things or something.
He did the whole quit for the wife deal. So when she's not around one of his dudes hits him with a smoke and everyone knows it's their balls if she finds out. But she really probably already knows.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 14:50:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I was a president trying to smoke, I'd just daydream about how much I'd like to and could nuke countries I don't like to past the hard time.
One one hand there are humanitarian issues, on the other it would solve a lot of problems... Would it affect the oil? Maybe I'll nuke the Middle East and then ask Steve from Blues Clues if he could molest a kid so people would be distracted. Or I could send the CEO of Comcast to Gautamano Bay and people will forgive me...
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:00:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Got any evidence?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Do you have any evidence other than you saying that? It's a white object. It looks similar to a pack of cigarettes. Does that mean it IS cigarettes? No, it doesn't. You can't see what the package is and you're just assuming it's cigarettes because you want to be right.
Now I would like to believe that he has quit completely because I don't feel that anyone should do that to themselves. I don't know about you, but I was a heavy smoker for several years and it's not easy to give it up, especially when you're in high stress situations. So even if it IS a pack of cigarettes, I'm not going to judge him for it. People backslide and struggle to quit addictive substances. Some one who has never battled addiction (and I'm not assuming you haven't) does not have the same perspective on the battle that another addict would have.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:45:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So we're going to go with guilty until proven innocent then?
teefour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would you quit if you were president? I fucking wouldn't. Plus you can get constant free checkups to catch any complications at the earliest possible time. And after that, the top doctors and most cutting edge procedures at your disposal, and first in line for transplants. Hell, they'd probably go to the VA and just harvest one with a good set of lungs.
Lung cancer? New lungs. Emphysema? New lungs. Artherosclerosis? New heart and arteries. It's like practically risk free smoking.
I just hope he decided to finally be a man and smoke normal cigarettes instead of menthols.
degjo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think I've ever seen a black man smoke non menthols. And if they bum one from someone they pop a stick of gum and smoke
Rihsatra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/u/ibleedorange wouldn't just lie like that for imaginary points.
jedberg ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:11:01 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama gave no State of the Union speech in 2009
That's just silly semantics though. He presented to a joint session of congress about the current state of our union and his plan for the next year. He just didn't call it a SOTU.
Nobody calls it a SoU, because it isn't. This isn't unique to his presidency.
jedberg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:35 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No but just as many Presidents have delivered a State of the Union during their first weeks as have not. Kennedy called his a State of the Union, as did Eisenhower and Ford (although Ford was admittedly taking over a Presidency).
The worst part is, that's a time in which people do undergo some physical changes, from adulthood to elderhood. However, Obama's seems to be much more extreme than what you would naturally see.
[deleted] ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 14:48:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at comparisons of all presidents - they are all like this.
cdub4521 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:34:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah I looked up some people same age and Clooney, Eddie Murphy, and Tim Roth all haven't aged nearly as much
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:11:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not true. I have pics of my grandmother, father and great grandmother from those ages. Stress is a huge component of aging, and the POTUS is always stressed.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:27:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The presidents have access to, without exaggeration, the best healthcare in the world, even after they are done serving. They don't have to deal with the same bullshit healthcare the rest of us do.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:55:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bush obviously did cocaine during his presidency, Lincoln did meth, Clinton drunk like Russian, but did not change much because he has been loved by people around him, JFK got younger by the time of his murder, FDR changed the quality of photography, Reagan, like JFK, got younger, Truman, Eisenhower and Nixon did not change.
It's true for all presidents. I think they've estimated that the office aged you at a pace of 4 years for every 1.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:15:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here is Jon Stewart, who is only one year younger than the president, in 2008 and again last month. I think what people attribute to "being the president makes you age" is really just normal aging for that age range.
bookon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:02:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was 43 when he became president and look almost exactly like my pictures from that time. It's crazy what stress does to you. I have friends my age (50) who look 60 and some who look 35.
If you've ever seen the documentary "56 Up" you'd see this. (It was on Netflix) It follows a group of people from age 7 on and interviews them every 7 years. The age intervals until they are 42-49 seem pretty reasonable. Then BAM, they look ancient by 56.
Tinidril ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, I'm 45. :(
CykoTom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From the perspective of elovution this is the point at which males become unnecessary, and therefore need to start to die to make room for the next generation.
But his bbc genetics should keep him going strong, he needs to jump back on dat dere
peetdk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It'll be interesting to see him when he turns 66.
zephyrtr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Certainly, but you also have to remember that there's little about Obama's appearance that isn't intentional. People were making these comparisons after just 1 year in office.
It's most likely Obama had a lot of gray hair while he was campaigning in 2008, but was dying it black so as to appear younger. People who vote Democrat, after all, tend to prefer younger candidates โ and so Obama had to look young. Republics prefer older candidates, and so hide only some if any of their graying hair.
Once in office, Obama had to look authoritative, and age tends to convey that โ so his dressers stopped aggressively dying his hair. Simple as that.
I wonder if the difference between 38 and 46 is just as stark.
Nerdn1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years
2~4-ish armed conflicts
Constant frustration in any attempt to get things done, digging the country out of a worldwide recession
Being blamed for every negative thing in the country
The responsibility to shape national policy
Making decisions that will save some but doom others
Truly the president must carry the weight of the world on their shoulders. Obama's presidency was far from the most burdensome, but was harder than a fair number.
My dad is 66 with a full head of brown hair. Conversely, my mother's hair turned white at 30. I will soon find out whether or not I struck out in the gene pool.
Can confirm. Your body's health will peak from 19-25 and you can extend that until about 35 with exercise. After that, your body is running past the warrantee. A Russian friend put it well this way; Every day that you wake up after 50 is a bonus
I'm still convinced the US government has time travel and that every new president goes into a time pocket where they get brought up to speed on everything the US is really up to. It takes about 5-10 years, then they're returned at the exact moment they vanished in order to take office.
elldeh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confronting with Russia, China and the US public opinion too.
brownlec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like his current look better. I think when people get old they look more respectable, and that they have more knowledge on life, which they do.
SAT0725 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also the later photo is a high-resolution photograph and the other is blurry and what looks like a screengrab from a video, which shows way less detail
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably all the innocents that have died or been imprisoned because of him.
Naw, j/k. Psycopaths aren't harmed by stuff like that
Shit, I'm 36. You look at pictures of me when I was 28, it looks like a different person. Back then I still had great, big dreams and ambition. Now my dreams are just about paying off debt and life is about waiting for it all to be over.
Obviously time has passed, but to me it kind of looks like: First picture; freshly elected, still dying his hair and trying to look youthful. Second picture; isnt up for re-election, has no fucks to give anymore?
Also kind of looks like the newer photo is originally higher resolution than the old one?
That is a common argument when a candidate is either old or has some sort of health ailment. If that's truly a concern of a voter (and it could be), then I think it's important to look at the running mates after they're selected.
The feeling is mutual for me, I'm not sad at all that his time is finally ending.
Edit: Why?
The reauthorization of the Patriot Act and the expansion of domestic spying, the passing of the Dream Act by fiat, unconstitutional appointments to the NLRB, Obamacare, increasing the administrative bureaucracy that further erodes seperation of powers, severe lack of government transparency, and his disastrous foreign policy.
The majority of the country disapprove of Obama and 70% think the country is heading in the wrong direction. You're mistaken if you believe only conservatives think he's not been a good president.
So how does that make any criticism of Obama a "conservative circlejerk"? And how does Obama adding to the country being "fucked for a long time" not deserve criticism?
If your family came here illegally then I have little sympathy for them. They could have gone through the legal channels that let in a million immigrants a year.
Your family ignored our laws and spat in the face of all the people who did and are trying to do it legally.
I don't care what race you are, we are a nation of laws and your family didn't give a shit. So get the fuck out.
His tax plan is estimated to grow capital investment by 29%, grow GDP by 11%, add over 5 million jobs, and increase wages over 6%. It simplifies our tax code and ends loopholes and deductions which is needed. It gives a one time reparation tax of 10% to corporations currently keeping their money overseas, as well as lowers our corporate tax rate to combat inversions.
He will actually enforce our immigration laws and actually combat illegal immigration. He wants to make a national eVerify to combat corporations employing illegals. He wants to defund sanctuary cities which are ignoring federal law. Reduce H1-B visas which means more jobs for the American worker.
It's based off of the same estimates that I used, they're from the Tax Foundation. The estimates for debt are based on current spending and economic growth, they can't factor in spending cuts or economic growth because they don't know the future.
So it's not accurate to say that the deficit would increase that much, the Tax Foundation states that in their estimates. If you read the article you already know this.
I understand your point, and I think that this topic really highlights the establishment GOP's "small government" hypocrisy, but-- there are true conservatives like Rand out there with real solutions to problems, but they get kicked down the curb and labeled "fringe candidates."
Unless you are a follower, you know of his crimes against the american people already.
AnthroNJ ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:20:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no worse than the crimes of his predecessor. I wont say Obama is a great president. But congress in his time has done much worse for this country then Obama did. When the entire GOP is "don't let obama do anything, and never compromise on anything" as the entire Right wing has gotten increasingly crazy, less intelligent, more racist, and more and more for the 1% and no one else. The GOP in the last 8 years have been totally hijacked by insane people who are anti environment, anti women, anti non-whites, anti- non Christians, and anti-science. They have done for more damage to America, and threatened to do even more in the future.
Congress represents the will of the people. Obama negates the will of the people like hitler did. Imperial edict. If we had some generals with some balls, the problem would be solved very quickly.
AnthroNJ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:30:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama is not like Hitler, don't bring out stupid fucking comparisons. As of date, no president the Us has ever had has been like Hitler. and no Congress DO NOT reflect the will of the people. Are you on drugs? or just watch Fox News? Congress has actively done NOTHING to help america in nearly 8 years! They make laws and rules that help corporations and the wealthiest of Americans. And reflect the will of them wanting to be reelected! Congress has hurt america more than Obama has. Please come back to reality.
Obama was elected for history, not for the benefit of the country. Congress and the senate ARE the people. Obama cannot get anything done, becausethe people don't like his policies. Blacks like his handouts, queers like his fawning support for their perverse culture. 98% of america are against obama.
TRUMP 2016!!
AnthroNJ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:02:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OHHHH, you are a racist, homophobic, asshat with the IQ of a soap dish. I'm sorry I thought I was conversing with an intelligent adult. Well, please fuck off and have a nice day you poor excuse for an American
B.A., M.A., high school assistant principal. How 'bout your credentials?
Typical liberal zombie. No attempt to counter with anything but puerile name calling and tantrums. I will counter your childish insults in true liberal fashion: I know you are, but what am I?
AnthroNJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
none of your arguments have ANY foundation in reality. And from what you said, racist and homophobic isn't calling names but stating what you are. plus your a trump supporter, who unlike any US president does speak like, and want to make the same moves as one Adolf Hitler. Enjoy supporting your fascism.
Bro, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this guy is a mega troll. Leave him be and hopefully he'll crawl back under his bridge. If not a troll, he's so far gone that we can't save him with logic unfortunately.
AnthroNJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. His account has been active for 7 months, and looks like he just leaves comments meant to anger. I was going to respond to his last comment. And decided it wasn't worth my time
I get the feeling he had some really good centrist-liberal (Blue Dog) policies he wanted to propose, and fight for, but certain aspects of government, namely: The Deep State, the real owners of this country, didn't want those things. Money begets more money, and people in power always want more power.
Of course Obamacare is a disaster: The health industry wrote its own regulations, and now profits are codified into law -- damn the little guy who can barely afford premiums of universal health care.
I think he did the best he could, but his hands were tied by the very special money interests that needed to be regulated in the first place.
qroshan ยท 126 points ยท Posted at 15:49:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yep, giving healthcare to people with pre-existing conditions is a disaster.
giving healthcare to people till age 26 is a disaster
reducing uninsured by millions is a disaster
controlling healthcare costs is a disaster
preventing medical bankruptcy
For people who have been utterly brainwashed by conservative media, bankrolled by Billionaires
No, of course not, and now you're putting words in my mouth. Of course those bullet points are good things with Obamacare, yet: Those were the bullet points that were fed to the people to get codified profits into law, and the people wouldn't accept a completely wet blanket on a bill that was written for the health industry.
There is no control of health costs: Health costs, (premiums), increased under this law. The state dictates which doctors sick people go to.
You're still welcome to get your own healthcare, you don't need an Obamacare plan.
I don't think anyone's saying Obamacare is a perfect system of US socialized medicine, but it's still a hell of a lot better than the nothing we had before. I'm just glad someone stood up to take the first step.
It's not a step towards socialized health care at all; in fact, it's backwards. All it did was force everyone to get private insurance plans, which is about as far from socializing anything as you can get. Obamacare was ruined as soon as Congress couldn't get a public government option passed
But I'm NOT free to get my own healthcare plan. The law changed what companies are allowed to offer, and now I've got to pay for coverage i don't want.
well that's what happens when the republicans get their hands on anything. Imagine how different this conversation would be if obamacare had been implemented more like the UK's universal healthcare NHS system.
Ah, yes. Now I'm forced to buy a plan with maternity benefits and pediatric dental. Even though I'm a man, with no kids.
Fucking scam insurance, giving me exactly what I want in a plan! Glad the government is here, I'm too stupid to buy insurance on my own -- can't sniff out a scam.
ALL insurance is designed to spread the risk. That's how it works. If you don't want to do that, ditch your insurance and buy your medical services outright as you need them.
The healthcare exchange is in addition to traditional healthcare insurance options, it did not replace them. You're absolutely able to get non-obamacare coverage as an individual or through a company benefits package. There is no law that says you must only buy an obamacare plan.
What was his point then? Cost was never a factor in this discussion, and nobody is denying that buying your own health insurance is expensive.
All he said was "But I'm NOT free to get my own healthcare plan." Which is false. He's absolutely free to get his own healthcare plan instead of an Obamacare plan, whether or not he can afford the plan he wants is a totally different discussion.
I think the disagreement hinges on what you call "an Obamacare plan" - if you mean a plan that is made available via Obamacare subsidies, then you're right. However, Obamacare mandates that all insurance plans are required to offer certain things, whether you want them or not, so you're not free to get a healthcare plan that doesn't meet these requirements.
I mean yeah, if nobody sells the exact combination of coverages you happen to decide you want then of course you can't buy it. Seems a silly thing to get hung up on. Yes it costs more, but you're also getting more coverage. Those lowball plans they did away with were marketed as cheap alternatives but left most people grossly underinsured. They were the insurance version of the bad financial products banks suckered poor people into buying into that were such a big part of the subprime mortgage crisis. They didn't know better because they thought they "had health insurance."
I get what you're saying but when you're paying a ton more per month for something you dont want I can see how that would upset you, and I don't really see how it's silly at all.
If you had to pay 300 more dollars per month for your car because the government made it law that they have a lightning cable port that you don't want and doesn't apply to you.. You would've upset right? Who cares if it has more features.. You don't want that feature.
I get you're point, I just don't get how you don't get that it's not silly to get hung up on that. In the end you're life matters most by miles to you as it should. If you now are spending 3K+ more dollars a year that you don't have on something you don't want how could that not make you pissed to all hell?
Edited for phone keyboard, I'm sure I missed plenty. Sorry about that
We're not talking about a la carte coverages though, we're talking specifically about people being pissed that the government made it illegal for insurance companies to sell insurance products specifically designed to take advantage of poor people and those who don't understand what they're buying. These insurance products never should have been sold in the first place. Yes they were cheap, but they were also junk.
Roll back to before Obamacare and imagine having one of these plans, thinking you're covered, but then you end up with something like cancer or you need surgery or something and the insurance company says the treatment you need isn't covered. Except now it's too late. You can't just change insurance to be covered because now that you've been diagnosed it becomes a "pre-existing condition" and you're uninsurable or your premium is going to be ludicrous. Whereas if you had adequate coverage in the first place, you'd be covered and get your treatment.
These products were sold specifically banking on people's ignorance. It was predatory. These laws did away with cheap but bad insurance products. Yes, you need to buy something more expensive, but you're also no longer underinsured and aren't going to end up in the situation I described where it's too late and you're fucked. It's not a rarity, it happens every day.
Sigh. There did exist good plans for responsible that provided coverage that are now more expensive. I never said shitty plans. I'm talking about good ones that were more affordable than they are now.
I simply don't get how you canthink people wouldn't be rightly upset by that.
You can think everyone that was paying less before didn't have adequate coverage before the ACA, you are wrong, but that's okay.
Some people fall into a group that had good coverage, spent a long time picking that coverage, it worked well, and now are paying way over what they were before. How could they not be upset?
Adamname ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People keep saying they get coverage they don't want, but never give specifics. What you are really saying is you don't feel you should pay for proper coverage and when the shit does hit the fan you expect the government to foot the bill. It's the same arguement people gave with mandatory car insurance.
This country pays the most in healthcare costs(even before the Affordable Care Act), yet doesnt provide the same coverage as at least 60 other countries. If you still think you are paying too much, it's because the ACA was the republican idea for healthcare instead of universal healthcare plan originally on the table. It's a bad plan because that's what happens when politics gets involved in people's wellbeing and implemented in a halfassed manner since the new republican plan is to sabotage anything that's doesn't go their way( such as all the government shutdowns due to zero-compromise).
I don't care whose fault it is that literally had nothing to do with my post.
I'll say it one more time.
It's not silly to be upset that you're paying more money for something you don't want. Flat out. It's not, even further it's logical
I don't know why you've got this opinion that every single person wants to cheap out and then get the government to save their ass by your fairy tale idea of what everyone does because that's convenient for your argument is only that. Convenient for what you want to think. I don't care if it was republican democrats libertarians what the living fuck ever. I'm not even commenting on whether I think ACA is wonderful or dreadful, whether universal healthcare is wonderful or dreadful.
Simply and only that if you think it's silly to be upset to have to pay way more money for something than what you already were satisfied with, then you are in fact who I think is being silly.
The issue is that he can't keep the same relatively crappy plan that he might have had previously for a cheaper price, because it doesn't meet the standards set in the Affordable Care Act. They are also making the insurance companies actually cover people, so it will cost more to cover the things they used to weasel out of on pre-existing condition clauses.
He's saying that you used to be able to buy Healthcare that was more personalized. Now plans typically cover a number of things as opposed to as little as you wanted before.
I'm not saying Obamacare is be all end all of Healthcare in the US, but did people really think that it was going to be cheaper to insure everyone in this country? I hate that Healthcare is a business here, but even if it was government controlled Wed be paying high taxes. I for one, am incredibly happy that people who didn't have access before, now can get the care they need. I'm willing to pay a bit more if it means everyone gets covered.
He's saying that you used to be able to buy Healthcare that was more personalized. Now plans typically cover a number of things as opposed to as little as you wanted before.
Which is a good thing in a lot of ways. Joe Everybody is notoriously horrible at picking out proper insurance coverage because it's extremely (and intentionally) difficult to understand insurance coverage, especially health insurance. People only care about what their premium costs, they don't care about the specifics of coverage until they actually need it and find out they don't have it. Getting rid of plans that intentionally leave people underinsured is not necessarily a bad thing.
From the rest of the industrialized world, it looks like offering a slightly lower standard of care for everyone, regardless of overall ability to pay, results in an overall healthier population. Those who can afford better care and are willing to spend the money will always receive better healthcare. So, you might wait a long time on the public system for a joint replacement or another non-vital issue, but it won't put you in the poorhouse either when you have a heart attack. A single nationwide risk pool would have cost advantages far exceeding those available to hundreds/thousands of smaller risk pools. Taking the profit out of the system for the insurance coverage will reduce costs enormously. Taking out the billing complexity of dealing with a bunch of predatory, profit-driven insurance companies, will cut the administration costs of healthcare by huge margins. We already pay more for our healthcare and receive less overall than these other countries, I say it's time to try another system. You should never go bankrupt because you have a health issue, especially the minor stuff that is currently crushing people financially.
I do have insurance from somewhere other than the exchange. The ACA changed what all carriers are allowed to sell, not just exchage providers. Some of those changes were good and necessary. Others were not, in my opinion. But they all added up to cost more, and that's not what we were told would happen.
I was very happy with the health insurance I got through my insurance company, with a $2,500 deductible, dental coverage, etc. It's no longer available and a similarly-priced plan through the same insurance company has a $6,500 deductible and no dental coverage.
Either A) it didn't actually cover crucial things you happened to not try to invoke or B) your employer took the opportunity to fuck you over and blame it on Obama.
Individual as in self-employed? I promise you that if your previous plan is no longer available, there was something missing that you were lucky not to need. Plan requirements aren't absurd. It's things like covering 100% on preventive care, coverage for outpatient services, no more lifetime maximums and no more dropping you (or your entire company) if you develop an expensive long-term condition.
Also, all plans now must cover customers regardless of pre-existing conditions, claims history, etc. -- for self employed folks this is HUGE. It may not seem like a big deal when you're healthy, but before the ACA my husband was disqualified from most healthcare plans because of pre-existing conditions. And I don't mean that as in "coverage was prohibitively expensive." It was not available.
I meanwhile couldn't get coverage for anything neurological because I've had migraines. And thanks to one anomalous high blood sugar test, they also specifically struck anything to do with diabetes should that ever arise.
Stuff like that isn't legal anymore. It was a matter of time and luck before that kind of crap affected you.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:59:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All of my premiums went up. Thanks!
Socialize medicine entirely or fuck off.
Koraks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you upset too that now insurance companies can't just ditch you when you're causing them huge costs as a result of chemotherapy?
literally missing the whole point of universal healthcare. it's meant to be freely available to anyone at the point of need (which is what obamacare was intended to be, more or less a clone of our NHS), but the republicans aborted that shit and made it into the farce you see today. And if you don't Need an obamacare plan then why are there millions of people in america who can't afford doctors bills, why is it that every single conversation about american politics, if it doesn't come down to guns or abortion, is about how shit your medical system is and how much everyone but the people making gigantic shitloads of cash out of it want it to change?
I didn't miss anything. You can't just flip a switch and boom, the US has universal healthcare that works like the NHS overnight, it doesn't work like that as we can clearly see from how even a rough step in that direction has gone over.
Over time, what started as Obamacare will continue to be refined and as people see the direct benefits to this style of healthcare in their actual, everyday lives, the buzzwords melt away, and they warm up to the idea of actually getting care to people who need it. It might take a decade or two to break down the cultural barriers and sort out the bullshit politics, but the first step to change is always the hardest.
Well you're right but you misinterpret what I said, obviously you can't just flip a switch as you say, but I didnt mean to imply you could. All the news we get over here from what i'd consider reliable sources paints a picture of the obama administration trying to set up an NHS style thing and getting thwarted at every turn by the republicans
For some reason people seem to think that getting everyone on insurance will significantly lower prices. It should help, but maybe the doctor's insurance cost, cost of drugs, and hospitals making up their own prices should also be addressed. Maybe if healthcare was affordable WITHOUT insurance things would be better.
A lot of what you just said isn't correct. The ACA is far from perfect so you don't have to make up things to make your point.
Healthcare has been rising for years and years and was out of control. The prices of everything have been rising why would this be an area where it wouldn't? Aside from that there are many things within the bill that are there to control the rate of increase. The amount of profits are restricted and people can get refunds if too much is made. The state doesn't choose your doctors these are literally private plans from private companies. The Feds just mandated what had to be included in the plans.
And just brushing off those benefits mentioned above is nonsense. Those are real things that effect millions of people.
Obviously single payer would be better, but from my understanding profits are actually limited and must be redistributed to the insured at the end of each year. Where are "profits codified into law"?
Can confirm family of M.Ds they hate obamacare it makes their job harder. They also spend hours on forms that only they can do (by law) which makes it harder to see patients. Its a good idea (obamacare) but in practice isnt very good.
I lucked out an found a job that give health care, if lay offs are long during the year I can lose it for a month or two and that sucks. I work construction. If laid off causes insurance to shut off they offer me the option to pay out of pocket for insurance at 1,300 a month... how the hell they expect me to pay that laid off I don't know, just be careful those months.
I am a conservative and I think Obama has done a great job with what he has had. I do not hate or even mildly dislike the man. I know he has the country's best interests at heart (and so do most of the others)
giving healthcare to people with pre-existing conditions is a disaster.
Awesome. This was the number one issue.
giving healthcare to people till age 26 is a disaster
I am on sort of on the fence on this one, but yea, good, I get it, especially in today's climate.
reducing uninsured by millions is a disaster
If you mean 'reducing' by forcing people to buy it, and increasing the costs for everyone else, then yea. But don't make it sound as if millions got some free health care or anything, that's intellectually dishonest.
controlling healthcare costs is a disaster
Not even one bit bro...Healthcare costs are not being controlled at all. The only winners are insurance companies. They have to cover pre-existing (boo-hoo) but now everyone has to be insured which is a tremendous windfall.
Obama is a great man and will go down as a great president. But Healthcare has not been "fixed", it is still shit, Obama threw a band-aid on it and we are all paying for it. I am all for that but if I am going to pay for 'your' healthcare I'd rather it be complete and not patchwork and be free for everyone. Single payer. Democrats fumbled the ball on healthcare.
Kaylen92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:35:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People here in Europe still laugh at the healthcare in the states. But you are going the right way, that better than what you had in the past.
All Obamacare (Romneycare) did was further entrench private insurance and make it less likely that a government funded public option would ever get passed. Congress thinks they have done enough
Kaylen92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why can't you have a system like we do have her in belgium, germany, france, UK, Sweden,Finland...
Because that would take away money from the rich who make money on healthcare who own Congress. The good parts of the ACA were bones they threw the middle class so they would complain less about legislation that guarantees insurance company profits.
The_Sven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those are all amazing goals to have. Each one is important for improving health care.
It's the way in which the Affordable Care Act when about it that causes problems.
Example: one of the provisions is that Medicaid and Medicare reimbursement to the hospital is tied to patient satisfaction. Anyone who has ever worked retail should be able to see why this is a bad idea. People looking for narcotics and prescription drugs will fill out a survey at the drop of a hat saying how poorly they were treated because they weren't given more painkillers. Stuff like this drives costs up.
I commend President Obama for trying. I really do. Our system sucks and heaven knows the Republicans weren't going to do anything. But that said, the ACA has a lot of really big problems.
tyzad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
jmarlo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is just "What should have happened." Reduce medical cost, lol k. My insurance went up and I get less coverage. I'm also an RN at a hospital that has seen big losses and staffing cuts solely due to Obamacare.
It was good in theory, but not practical.
qroshan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:34 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, the cuts happened because hospitals are required to actually cure the patients, rather than milking a patient.
jmarlo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:52 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, because that's exactly what happens. Why would a hospital want to keep a patient longer than necessary when they already don't get paid jack, if anything, for it in the first place. I definitely wouldn't know anything.
They didn't control costs at all. If you believe that then you are uninformed or putting team based politics ahead of truth.
Downvoting me from +20 or so to negative numbers won't change the fact that we have the most expensive healthcare in the first world by at least 200% per capita and more than that as compared to most developed countries.
You don't actually pay for health insurance do you?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let me guess, you're one of the fucking poor fuckers who now get free insurance, while my monthly payments have increased fucking drastically.
I can't believe people like you still got your noses up his ass. He's fucked over the middle class so completely it's sickening. Record high wall street profits, stagnant wages, forced to buy health insurance we can't afford, another 8 years of "war" in the middle east, record high student debt, federal welfare rates at 5.3% of population getting at least half their income from the state, NSA spying up the ass. The list goes on.
And yet, you still refuse to point your finger and say "Shitty president".
Everything you listed except the war in the middle east (started by Bush, not Obama) is controlled and regulated by Congress. But I bet you love what they have done with the country, don't you?
It is a disaster. The only good thing that came out of it was the pre-existing conditions thing. Insurance has sky rocketed, plans and deductibles now suck worse than they did before, treatment cost has risen, and hospitals can still charge whatever the fuck they feel like. Hospitals are just as bad as private prisons. It's worse, but people just don't realize it. If anything, this gives private hospitals even more leverage over insurance providers. Basically, it's "You're now forced to buy insurance, but to make up for the still incredibly fucked up and unchanged healthcare system, we're throwing in the pre-existing conditions thing. Enjoy". It's a nightmare, and still costs you a fucking fortune. Before, if you had a crappy plan and got cancer or something that wasn't entirely covered, you could wind up hundreds of thousand in debt. Nothing has changed about that. Medical bills are still pushing people to bankruptcy. The only difference is that you're required to buy shitty insurance.
Nick357 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:26:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To even get there a person has to be bought and sold ten times over or so I have heard. I honestly don't know what to think. Do we appreciate him for being an altruistic sycophant?
Honestly, I don't know. All I'm saying is that we need a fucking human being to be the president for a while -- not a puppet of banksters and lobbyists. I've had enough of our bought-and-sold government. Our government is supposed to work for us, THE PEOPLE, not corporations, not foreigners, not hucksters.
"By the people, for the people?" Pssh, yeah right. More like, "By the people, for the corporations." That is more accurate.
I'm a big Bernie fan and plan on voting for him if and when I can, but there is no way congress lets him accomplish anything at all. We would have a presidency in which so little was accomplished that Obama's presidency would look like a bipartisan success story in comparison.
True, but the Deep State is trying its hardest to ensure he is not the democratic nominee for president. If all else fails: lies, mistruths, over-funding his opponents: Fraudulent primary votes will be used to ensure he gets derailed: MMW.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:11:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but so far, they've been slowly losing their lead, now Bernie is almost caught up to Hilary. That's pretty damn impressive, give him your vote in the primaries, if he gets selected he will almost certainly win the presidency. From there we will have to see what happens. When was the last time we had a decent person as president?
Actual popularity polls don't mean shit. The official count does. If the official count comes from loaded vote boxes and rigged electronic voting machines, then who really wins? The guy the deep state wants.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:28:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Popularity polls do mean something, not a lot, but it's a decent sign of how popular a candidate is and how much of a chance they have.
Then again, I'm not paranoid and think vote rigging is a widespread issue or that the deep state even exists in any way that really matters.
But it is sorta "by the people for the people." I mean, people obviously don't give a shit because they keep voting in shitty people.
Vote for a candidate that you actually agree with. If that candidate doesn't exist, you run. Then people vote and most likely they know jack shit about politics but they'll vote for the big Republican candidate or the big Democrat candidate (in the US) whereas here in Australia they'll vote for the big Labor candidate or the big Liberal candidate...major party is probably a better term than big...
anyway, this is the flaw of democracy. We DO have control, we (as a collective) just have shitty ideas on what's best for our country and complain about politicians yet WE VOTE THEM IN AGAIN AND AGAIN.
Okay, fine, MAYBE not you. But your dad who complains about politicians...he probably voted for the opposing major candidate aka Turd #2. Mum? Voted the PM/pres. Or something like that...and the cycle continues.."BECAUSE WE'RE A [INSERT MAJOR PARTY HERE] FAMILY!"
"This time I might vote differently...* votes for the other major party *"
Run yourself or go minor party or less popular candidate. One that you know sticks to it's values. Whether it's the libertarian party or lib dems (in Aus) if you're big on freedom in both social and economic areas. Vote for Pirate Party if same as above but not as capitalistic and has more on tech and things like negative income tax. There are heaps more worthy minor parties depending on where you live.
EDIT: can the downvote at least explain why, ofc my layout is shit but tell me how I'm not at least partially correct.
Seakawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People are voting in exactly who they agree with. Not enough people disagree with those in office to vote them out and vote sane politicians in.
Well yeah, that's a part of what I meant. People agree with them on a few issues, but then complain about politicians all the time. Yet they keep voting for the same party and sometimes the same person.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:52:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama never had the votes for the progressive policy he wanted. It would've failed as it couldn't have passed a filibuster in the Senate. Lieberman refused to budge and drew a line in the sand that he absolutely would not support single payer. This gave the Dems 59 votes in the Senate. They tried offering him concessions, but he wouldn't budge. They were forced, by this, to try and broker a plan that could pass. Lieberman would vote for the ACA plan, so that's what they voted in. Against a pure stonewall by the Republicans, too. It was a straight party vote. Obama got his 60th vote for ACA by Lieberman, and they had to rush it because Ted Kennedy died and a Republican was elected in his place.
Tldr: it wasn't a political blunder, it was the reality of politics in dealing with the Legislature.
The right's own policy - so that's why they sent a repeal to Obama's desk last week! Shucks! Why did he veto it then -- his big chance to get rid of the right's policy!
Ah, the old canard that the "ACA was basically written by the Heritage Foundation" right? Been debunked so many times I'm surprised I still see it. The right loved it so much it passed in the middle of the night on Christmas eve without a single Republican vote.
But yeah, keep telling yourself 'if Hillary would have been President she coulda got thangs done!'
Yup, you're clueless. So, who initially wrote the ACA? Answer, Mitt Romney. Who first proposed it to Congress? Newt Gingrich and Mitch McConnell. Why did they propose it to Congress in 1994? As the Republican alternative plan to Hillary care at the time. History fool. It withstands revisionist crap idiots try to pull off in today's hyper retarded right wing lunacy
brett84c ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:07:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Ugh, Obamacare sucks for someone that is physically healthy but mentally ill. The only plans that help me with my mental issues require me to get the highest cost plans. Would be reasonable to separate the 2. As it stands, I refuse to pay into and support such a fucked up system. Meanwhile, my friends in school or working in restaurants or are under the poverty line are getting amazing coverage for dirt cheap when I am struggling to keep my job and the cost of help is too much for me to afford and have any quality of life on the side.
I do not label myself as either Republican or Democrat but I have always disagreed that you automatically tax and charge people more just bc they make more money. It's hitting me now that I'm in my career and in the middle class how messed up a lot of things are.
And honestly, we're all sheep if we buy into these stupid political articles that get passed around on Facebook. The media is so liberal that it's like they've made it a trend that you're not cool if you don't side with people that AREN'T democrat. Yeah, Trump might be terrible but we need someone in office to stop spending so much damn money and running up our debt. Something is gonna break soon.
Absolutely not, congress restricted him on insane projects, that's the whole purpose of the congress, to keep the balance of power of the different branches.
This is not supposed to be a monarchy where the president gets to do what he wants.
jussnf ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 15:30:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The whole purpose of congress is also to represent the interests of its constituents, not their money. Questionable at best.
You are completely true, however, Congress has to propose something viable, instead of "Everything opposite the president -- No matter what." What did they propose that would level-out the solutions suggested? Where was the centrist consensus, for the people? IDK. I never say Congress wanting to work with the president.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:40:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Obamacare was the center- to center-right consensus. Are we still pretending congressional Republicans aren't a arm of high-finance?
We can sit here and look at the deficits, the spending, Obama getting his way on every single budget....and still say he faced an obstructionist congress? Double the national debt...I'd shudder to to think what it would be with a friendly one.
This why a Bernie Sanders presidency is ludicrous. Nothing he wants will get remotely close to passing through congress. And people think that partisanship is bad now...
Seakawn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:15:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Not if you listen to Bernie express how this is a problem and how he gives a solution to it... this really gets old to have to repeat when people can look this up for themselves.
But, Bernie agrees with your concern. He talks about this. He even specifically ridicules Obama for not doing what Bernie knows he would have to do. He says one of Obama's big mistakes was making a bunch of promises to get the people excited enough to vote for him, then once elected, he was like, "Thanks for getting me here everybody. Now, let me handle things from here," and turned his back.
Bernie says if it is possible that enough people get him into office, then he will need all those people's help after he is President in order to both pressure and stack Congress to get what he wants. Otherwise, as we all know--including Bernie who acknowledges this--he won't be able to pass the policies he wants the most.
That's the solution. To continue using the people who got him into office and orchestrate them to manipulate Congress using all the power they have. Obama didn't do this, and Obama wasn't able to achieve all of what he wanted. Sanders is politically aware enough to know this is an issue, which is why he has already been planned with a solution since basically day one (which was quite a while ago by now).
If you have any reasons to think this plan isn't plausible, I'd love to hear why. Remember that the Occupy Movement had a whole lot of potential power, they just lacked both a clear message and leadership, and thus achieved nothing. Sanders supporters outnumber the Occupy Movement and he is basically trying to act as the leader they didn't have and use all those people to actually achieve something with clear direction. Sanders being elected President won't end his working with the people, it will just begin it. Hence the whole, you know, "political revolution" thing he mentions--he doesn't throw that concept around recklessly.
That's hyper idealistic, and I really just don't see that happening. The current political climate just makes this such a tough sell.
You need to have an overwhelming number of people (democrats and independents) on board in order to succeed in the way that he is proposing. The way most states districts are drawn effectively prevents Democrats from taking control. Remember that about half the country is going to disagree with Sanders' policies. There is a loud contingent within the GOP that shows up to vote that is vehemently against anything that Obama has accomplished. Right now the right-wing media is railing against the presumed candidate Hillary Clinton, as well as Obama. Talk radio, Fox News, and the like will have a field day with Bernie Sanders as a general election candidate and will galvanize the Tea Partiers and GOP base.
Even if a few in split districts ride the coattails of Sanders in 2016, they are going to be on the hot seat for midterms in 2018 and are going to avoid voting for controversial legislation. Obamacare got gutted even when Democrats were comfortably in control of the House and Senate from 2009-11. I don't foresee a majority as strong as 2009 occurring in 2017. (really a majority in House again before 2020 redistricting takes effect would be a sight to behold) The legislation that he'd like to pass would be more liberal than the ACA and would struggle to get moderate Democrats on board. His political revolution is not going to happen quickly, and this vision is unlikely to be accomplished within one term especially without record control in the House and Senate. Further, the electorate is growing ever more frustrated with the inaction in Washington. Another wasted four years of gridlock in DC is certainly going to change public opinion and I think would lead to a Republican president in 2020.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:38:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Insane projects like center-right health reform that is despertly needed and was originally proposed by conservative think-tanks?
That's my view too. But he's not blameless. Instead of pushing things everyone wanted (like nuclear power) he completely gave up on those issues (see high speed rail) and focused on welfare reform instead.
It didn't stick.
pfohl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
now profits are codified into law
IIRC the profits in ACA were reduced from what insurance companies were operating at before.
This needs more up votes it shows that what was intended by obama was not quite what was created he wanted socialized medical insurance and instead got this imagine if we could have just had single payer health care done prices would plumitt instead we have shitty insurance that we have to pay a lot more for even though granted some of the plans are fairly cheap I think I am paying $100 a month for a plan and it just went up like 40 bucks that has a fairly high deductible at 3k I think. SO me personally I would love to just have single payer health care that I pay for in my taxes so I do not have to spend this money to an insurance company that if something serious happens I am still up shit creek without a paddle.
kyleg5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uhh except Obamacare isn't a disaster. Really the only part that is failing right now are that conservative states won't expand Medicaid coverage.
Canrex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neither you or anyone in this thread know the first thing about ACA and it's subsidies and you're making it blindingly obvious.
You have hundreds of plans to choose from now, every legitimate option that existed before is there now with the added bonus of income based subsidies.
Some Republican homers have artificially increased costs of certain medical related things to sabotage it. Obama knew that would happen and unfortunately couldn't stop all of it but he made a massive first step considering all the pieces of shit holding his legs and screaming the whole way.
I get the feeling he had some really good centrist-liberal (Blue Dog) policies he wanted to propos
I mean I'm sure he had some but the point people often overlook when complaining about Republican obstructionism and blaming opposition to the man and his policies largely on racism is that Senator Obama had one of the most liberal voting records during his time in the Senate. Its not like Obama was some centerist who got along fine and dandy with everyone until he got into office.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair the second photo is pretty cherry picked; the human face is only attractive like 5% of the time you are talking, as a photographer at spoken events, you learn this really quick. Sure he's aged quite a bit, but OP could have picked two fairer photos to compare.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thats what you call stress
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whether or not you agree with his politics, he's a good guy. I don't think any President with a soul could endure what our country's endured in the last year alone, let alone his two terms, without looking like that.
I'm completely not surprised that you stopped reading stuff you don't agree with and turned around to throw insults and claim to know all about the stuff you didn't read. I'm sure you refused to click on the citations as well. I'm sure you absolutely never allow a foreign idea into your belief system which is no doubt crafted by your super long list of biases.
I wonder if you know this though, honestly; when you become a shit-throwing ape for your cause, you're just hurting your cause.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:47:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no biases, just reality buddy
and what "cause" is that...? the whole point is americans are retarded. Your blind defense of le xd cool president xd only confirms that
We all have biases, my poorly informed friend. You are just in denial of yours, which is the only reason you're such an idiot.
Edit: to answer your question about causes, I'll just say that a snarky, anti-American idiot prancing around like a pigeon on a chessboard after getting so absolutely schooled by an American just makes it pretty clear to anyone reading that Americans aren't always retarded, and people who think they are tend to have real problems with reading comprehension and communication in general.
Edit 2:
Your blind defense (not a blind defense)
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only confirms that (definitely doesn't confirm that)
The surrounding country side is beautiful. I'd recommend the Adirondacks though. Also avoid the south side. Not that you have a reason to go there though.
NiferVol ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:30:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Syracuse might not be the most "exciting" place to be but you could spend an enjoyable day here if you are into history or outdoors. We have a few quite unique and beautiful state parks close to the city limits (this area was formed by glaciers so it has some unique geological and geographical areas), a ton of history between the Erie Canal and the underground Railroad, awesome architecture (that unfortunately is falling into disrepair) and we have a decent downtown with a few good restaurants and bars. However, with in a two-hour drive, you can be in the Catskills, the Finger Lakes (Wine Tour!), the Thousand Islands, the Adirondacks... I've traveled throughout the US and I would put Upstate New York's landscape as one of the prettiest places in this country, especially in the Summer...but on a day like today, it is pretty exceptional too.
Theres also the west side in case you want some heroin!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:39 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly come here for a Syracuse basketball game, hit up Empire brewing, and Dinosaur, and then head up to the Adirondacks and go skiing. Our come in the summer and then go enjoy canoeing and camping in the Adirondacks and skip the basketball if that doesn't interest you. Syracuse is great.
Yes, really. Just better if you don't visit today. As Jim Boeheim once said, "The weather in Syracuse is perfect for 9 months, the other 3 months is basketball season."
Wait until they get the roads cleared anyway. We got our best teams on it. They plowed my street about 12:45 a.m.
jab296 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:40:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where are these 9 months of perfect weather you speak of??
They're coming. April is a great start to Spring (or end of Winter, who knows this year?). May through October are also great. Okay, maybe November, December, January, February, and March are tough. But we are not alone in that struggle. And we get the glory every time we win the Golden Snowball award!! My daughter just moved up Tug Hill way, and folks up there probably snicker when we cry about our snow accumulations.
jab296 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except for the years it snows the first week in May. I'd say there's legitimately 5 months of really nice weather. We both agree that upstate summers are beautiful
Totally. I remember the Mothers' Day when we got 2" and the April where schools were closed a couple days. And the October when I awoke to a few inches on my birthday, NOT Funny! But yes, summer in Central New York is wonderful...the joke says, "and on that day we all go to Green Lakes."
Xolian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes...my family three generations back came from Sweden. One of my favorite sayings is "There is no such thing as bad weather, just wrong dressing." ...old Viking proverb.
Surviving the cold is important to me because I work outside every day, +20o or 20o below (F). Gonna be harder today, but I can't call in ...I take care of animals and they don't appreciate my absence.
Xolian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know exactly what you mean! My family has a horse, I don't really take care of it but my mother and sister does. They keep going there even in stupidly cold weather.
And that proverb is actually still used everyday in Sweden, especially younger children who don't want to go out. I can imagine it would fit with your weather as well!
sps26 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, your father travels to Syracuse from Sweden for work? Random connection haha.
But its not that bad. It's not really tourist-ish like a major city, but its a neat area to live in. Tons of trails and lakes/beaches around, NYC just a few hours away...its a good place to grow up I think haha
Xolian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:12:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha yes he does, probably once a month usually. He has some friends from work who visit here, but I haven't really talked to them about the city. It sounds like he has a lot of fun when he's there though so I've wanted to visit, just to see it really.
sps26 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:14:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you ever do visit try to catch a Syracuse basketball game. Maybe not this year because we suck right now...but a game at The Dome is amazing
Xolian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:16:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know absolutely nothing about basketball, do they play in the NBA? Basketball isn't really big in Europe (except for a few countries like Spain) but watching it is usually a lot of fun, I pretty much only watch big tournaments though, like the Olympics.
sps26 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:45:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, gotcha. But nah, it's college. But Syracuse loves the college team like...Liverpool loves their football team over in England
Xolian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:52:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah that explains it perfectly, I should really go and watch them if I go there then!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's constantly cloudy even in the summer in WNY. Seriously, even the PNW has nicer weather.
Syracuse is fortunate to be in a sunnier central part of the state. We do enjoy great weather throughout rest of the year. Even today's weather is good news for our winter outdoor enthusiasts (and the plow guys).
whoxp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The problem with Syracuse isn't the weather. It's that the city is a shithole
I'm sorry but I cannot agree with that assessment. I was born and raised here, left for ten years and now have lived here full time since 1978. Syracuse does have its tough issues, very tough issues ...but it is rebounding. Folks are working to bring it back to health. I am one of those people. Yes, there are bad areas...I lived on a very bad block for 25 years, and have the scars to prove it. I am in a nicer neighborhood now (Yes...Syracuse has many nice areas). Some residents care about our quality of life here, and do what it takes to improve it. I'd be glad to take you on a tour of my city to show you the proof.
Destiny USA (6th largest mall in America) is pretty cool. They just added a ton of bars and cool stuff to do (like go-karts). And since it's indoors, it can be enjoyed even when it is not so nice outside.
Stupid bastard I can't fuckin' believe you. You're gonna dig the fuckin' thing up. You're gonna dig the hole. You're gonna do it. I got no fuckin' lime. You're gonna do it.
C'mon whattaya doin?? Get outta here, I got a better shot at letting him fuckin' drive. What are you waiting for? Car's cold...GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE WHAT FUCKIN WARM IT UP!? GET OUTTA HERE!
They got mine at like 4am and hasn't gone by again since. So there's almost a foot on the roadw. Not sure about the main roads yet, don't work until 4.
It was pretty bad getting to Tipp Hill from Eastwood. Apparently snow makes it ok to go through red lights. Almost got t boned at an intersection. Thank god for AWD!
McBurger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yesterday drive home from work was insane though. Total white out
I'm thankful for growing up in Syracuse. I deal with snow better than the average Canadian (Syracuse would be the third snowiest city in Canada). As a half-Canadian (by birth) I am sometimes ashamed at how wimpy people here can be.
Don't let the Canadians hear me, they like to think winter is theirs and theirs alone.
SoftHole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ah i can see it all the cars parked and everything when they told you not to park there the day before! so now they cant plow the snow because idiots like you probably left your car on the snow route and then blame the city HIGH FIVE!
Last I heard its supposed to be in the 40s this weekend. So muddy slushy brown and black shit that makes everything look awful and more depressing than usual.
Luckily, i'll only be up there overnight so I can handle depressing for 12 hours or so before killing myself. I just hope I don't get washed off the road in the slush rivers.
sps26 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:00:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, did not expect to see Syracuse mentioned here. Where I was it was a complete whiteout and the roads weren't plowed...just driving 20 mph trying to follow other cars' tracks and unable to see 15 feet ahead of me
Milafin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:16:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I commute from Jordan to Fulton, holy freakin moly, from 690 in Baldwinsville to the Oswego county line on 48 was horrendous. it was 15 mph and even that was fast, and I have a 4X4 Silverado. As soon as I got past the strip club on 48 the snow stopped.
fwowaway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:38:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife is from Syracuse, she now lives in Dublin and moans about the lack of snow here.
Driving in Toronto everyday will do that too at to you. And now the
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hiawatha alone will do that.
jakatz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:10:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Driving back up tomorrow, how's it looking?... Eh why do I ask
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just flew into Syracuse from Toronto. Beautiful weather all the way here. Except right on top of Syracuse. It's like God decided to shit directly overhead Syracuse in particular.
What's weird is that this has happened to me 3 times in the last 3 weeks.
Even more than that... Imagine every single stress-inducing brief that passes by you on a daily basis as POTUS. Things that range from quite literally world-changing decisions you have to make, to others that are far beyond your control.
Being the prez must be close to some kind of hell.
roobens ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 17:47:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
"Sir, regardless of what you've read in the papers, there's never been any spacecraft recovered by our government. Take my word for it, there's no Area 51, there's no recovered spaceship."
"Erm, excuse me Mr. President? That's not...entirely accurate.."
Omg yes! The first game is very old at this point but the series is wonderful! I ask because your statement made me think of the game. Here is the reason why (It's a spoiler but honestly it's not much of anything and doesn't change gameplay or storyline).
Also, Carter was quite outspoken about a policy of openness toward ufos and such while running, then immediately started backing away from it after he was elected. There's a lot of speculation that he abandoned it as a result of whatever he may have learned in one of these secret briefings that occurred while he was still president-elect.
Ungh, you'll fall into a googlehole if you go looking for it. (and confusingly there are several versions (and a lot of other crap of it)
OK, Jackie Gleason's place one evening, a car pulls up. Nixon arrives at door, and is ushered in looking shaken. Gleason asks if he's OK does he want a drink?
Nixon sits, gleason fixes him a drink and asks, "what's wrong Richard?"
Richard looks up and says " today... this afternoon they... they took me... "They took me...Jack... they showed me the Alien..."
There's an unofficial Richard Burton biog with a similar story in. It's probably hokum (though Nixon was close with Gleason) but for me, it's always captured that feeling must of knowing stuff and being damned if you say anything. A really awful place to be.
I've often though of that myself. That they sit him down and let him know hes just a puppet one way or another. Or that Aliens secret run the world or even exist. Imagine that, you're on cloud 9 thinking shits tight when they sit you down to tell you that Aliens exist. Aliens are all over the place and Earth is not ruled by them, but still in a growth state, they won't let Humans know until we mature. Kind of like that movie The World's End but without the evil shit haha
There's a great Star Trek NG episode that is a great perspective on this theory. The enterprise crew make first contact with the president of a humanoid species that is getting close to the discovery of warp drive. At the end of the show, they president actually decides that his people aren't mature enough to deal with extraterrestrial life yet and sends the enterprise on their way. Fantastic episode. S04E15 on Netflix.
YES! I love that episode. It also reminds me of Stargate SG1, similar story too. They discover a new gate code and when they activate and go through the gate they discover the other gate is an artifact in a museum. They arrive when the place is closed and having a private function and their arrival ignites a huge struggle. Apparently they were seen as terrorists from another faction in the world until they proved other wise. In the end they decide to bury the ring because they don't think the world, already in chaos so to speak, can't handle such news.
Imagine every single stress-inducing brief that passes by you on a daily basis as POTUS. Things that range from quite literally world-changing decisions you have to make, to others that are far beyond your control.
"Okay... So if I have that Turkey sandwich for lunch, will FOX News or CNN have a shit fit? What if I have it on wholewheat? ...maybe a taco will keep them happy?"
[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 16:26:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A taco would upset Fox. Don't support the Mexicans, silly.
My cousin married a Mexican. They can make awesome tacos. All Mexicans that want to legally come make tacos are alright, shit my cousins wife is completely right wing and hates the fact illegals come over when her and her family spent years coming here legally. She surprised me by saying a better wall needs to be built to keep the ass holes hoping it from coming here.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:27:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not surprising. Some of us (Hispanics) have to wait years to get a visa, by doing everything the right way. I still have many years ahead and I'm not Mexican (they have worse waiting times). :/
Anyone who does it the legal way has my respect. I'm white, my family all came threw Ellis Island so I know that's not nearly as difficult.
How ever I do support a wall, not some monster wall that kills those who touch it. Or a wall like the ice wall from GOT. But one that is in place and behaves as a wall should, not just an obstacle. Just go threw the legal means to become a citizen, I don't know why most dont, I've worked low end labor jobs with illegals before some spend tons of time worrying about getting sent back and others don't think they every will.
I'm not someone who doesn't believe legal immigrants can't be a big plus to our work forces or a big addition to our families or neighborhoods. Like I've said legal immigrants have nothing but respect for everything they did to become citizens. I don't want you to think I'm arguing with you, I seem to be starting them here today.
I'm not. I'm writing on a cell phone while in an uncomfortable spot. Words get spelled wrong. At least you're here to save the day. Idk how to give you a thumbs up picture.
Thanks for being nice at least. Many become very perturbed at being corrected so it's natural to become defensive about it. My thinking is corrections are better for non-native speakers that might be reading. Have a nice day.
I do my best to not come off as an ass. It helps noone, specially when I know I don't pay good enough attention when typing most the time. Hope you have a good day also.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, not at all! It's good on my end. Perfectly friendly conversation. :)
My stance with the wall, I hope is not confused with something like "no borders". I think every country has its border and it must be respected. I have my reservations with an armed wall, tho.
Just go threw the legal means to become a citizen, I don't know why most dont
I'll tell you why. Because it's insanely expensive, difficult, and it can take a lifetime or half your life. I have a total of 10 years to wait, and my category is one of the quickest for unmarried, childless adults who are children of citizens. If I was from Mexico, I'd be waiting 20-30 years, I think.
If I had been younger than 21, I would have gotten it fairly quick. If I had chosen to marry someone for the green card, it'd take a year, at most.
The legal immigration system is a nightmare if you're not European or from one of the Commonwealth countries.
Work permits for the "unskilled" category are severely limited, and they run out as soon as the fiscal year opens. Furthermore, it takes a year for it to be approved. And not many companies want to invest that much time and money on randoms.
The rest of the work permit categories are for genius people, engineers, and such.
The best way to solve the illegal immigration problem is to fix the legal immigration system.
Yeah if it's taking that long and that much money to become a legal citizen I can see why more do it illegal. It has always seemed like our immigration system is hard and had a bunch of obstacles, just didn't realize really what they all really were. Or how much of a limit there was for work permits.
I suppose it's not easy making a system that pleases everyone, lots of people but should be a way to make it easier for the people like you and others that want to contribute. I guess the job scares that come in swings also make them tighten up who can come and who can't. An then those that want to be dicks are hidden in there, but I'm not sure how big of an issue that truly is.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seems like a Veep episode.
DMala ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:54:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It seems like the best part of being president is afterwards. Once you're done the pressure is totally off, but you still have the clout the comes with being a former president. Look at Jimmy Carter, he achieved 1000 times more since his term ended than he ever did in office.
Pritzker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:13:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At this point in history the office of the president is mostly a lightning rod for all the hate the US government gets for what it does. Lots of Americans sincerely believe Obama is a Muslim and a terrorist, yet entities like the Koch brothers or Exxon barely register.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Things that range from quite literally world-changing decisions you have to make, to others that are far beyond your control.
You've forgotten the completely asinine requests/demands as well.
Also someone got hold of his birth certificate and changed the year... there's a reason he didn't release it
Some folks in Washington were like, "Oh, he's ignoring the chaos of all the terrible stuff that's happening." Of course, I'm not ignoring it. I'm dealing with it every day. That's what I wake up to each morning. I get a thick book full of death, destruction, strife, and chaos. That's what I take with my morning tea.
Theirs many jobs like this and none are as hard to get as being the president.
Tramm ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:03:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
But it's no hell is my point. Hell is supposed to be an eternity. Not 8 years of an ass-kicking followed by 40 more years living in bliss, with a presidential burial, and your name in the history books forever.
dafones ยท 312 points ยท Posted at 14:55:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
As a Canadian, I find the role of the President fascinating in light of the fact that he/she can be elected at odds with the constitution of your legislative houses. Often it seems that you're setting him/her up to fail.
Edit to add: for comparison, in Canada, our federal and provincial leaders are selected from the party that obtains the most representatives in our legislative house. This means that, in the least, the leader has the support of the most (but not necessarily the majority of) elected representatives. I believe the UK is much the same way (a Parliamentary system).
dragondm ยท 205 points ยท Posted at 15:27:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Checks and balances. The US government is not designed to be efficient. It's not designed to make it easier for good politicians to do things. It's designed to limit the potential damage caused by bad ones.
It requires the president have good negotiating skills when dealing with a congress that does not agree with him. Many presidents have done pretty well at this (Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, etc).
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 17:55:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Iopia ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:46:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If the entire nation was really behind a President, then he'd have both houses of Congress behind him as well.
However, in countries like Canada/UK/Ireland, the majority of the nation is behind both houses of congress (or equivalent), and the President/PM represents that majority. In the US, a Rhode Islander's vote counts more than a Texans (due to the number of representatives assigned to each state), in most other countries they're equal. Maybe it's fair enough to protect smaller states, but to me a majority is a majority, so it makes sense that the Head of State should align with whoever has the majority in Government, which in turn should align with whichever party received the majority of votes. Also, in these countries, the Head of State doesn't have quite as much power, and abuse of power isn't particularly likely when every decision has to go through parliament, which (in Ireland, not in the UK/Canada), is proportionally representative of the percentage of voters who voted for each party.
which (in Ireland, not in the UK/Canada), is proportionally representative of the percentage of voters who voted for each party.
Our new Canadian government is looking to fix that. You should hear the bitching though. It all breaks down to the electorate being too stupid to do a 5 minute google search. I mean it's hilarious when it's spun as being "for" the current majority party. Really, so a more representative system supports a party that won the most votes? Fucking shocking.
I just want an end to this 40% popular vote, 51%> of the seats bullshit.
vanontom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It all breaks down to the electorate being too stupid to do a 5 minute google search.
American here. This is what probably bothers me most about human beings. We have the technology. We have the intellect (ha?). But too many people are just too fucking lazy ("busy") to spend a few minutes every once in a while on important subjects. Obligatory: "This is why we can't have nice things."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
UKIP were fucked over badly in the UK election. They got 13% of the vote. That translated to one seat. The Lib Dems got 8 seats with 7.9% of the vote.
It's a fantastic design. The next time you hear the media speak of an electoral "mandate" just remember that our system is designed to stop politicians who think they are on a crusade "for the people."
Just how fantastic the design is depends on your perspective. Without campaign finance reform, bought politicians will continue to perpetuate the oligarchical system that currently exists in the US.
How do you suggest keeping one from being bought? Do you really think one can simply stop the flow of money and not have it replaced by a dozen other ways of giving favors?
vanontom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:56:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make it tougher, and the penalties stiffer, and there will be fewer. Progress.
It gets replaced with transparency. Make the diaries of the executive public to show who is meeting with whom (through FOI requests) Limit campaign donations and make rose public as well.
Yes, I do. Saying it's not possible to fix the broken system is for pessimists, cowards, and oligarchs. I choose to be optimistic, and believe proper auditing and transparency legislation could fix the vast majority of corruption in politics. Maybe it wouldn't 100% fix the system, but it would be a lot less corrupt than it is now.
The government needs a fall guy just like anyone else.
kyle46 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:06:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The US Government is pretty bad for that. For instance the debt ceiling thing that happened a couple years ago. Congress passes the budget which the president is required to spend. Then congress blames the president for spending all the money requiring the debt ceiling to be raised. CPG Grey did a great video on the topic.
I just want term limits. If I have to deal with my tiny ass town finding a new mayor every few years, Congress should deal with same shit every 4 years. How many of them are 70+ an been there so long they don't even know who the hell voted them in there in the first place.
You would probably be singing the opposite tune if trump got elected. It might have its downsides, but it can still be very beneficial even in the modern age.
In a parliamentary style system though, we wouldn't be faced with a situation where "Trump gets elected" and runs roughshod, it's more of a ground-up system where if Trump ends up President or PM we have lots of little Trumps already elected.
Well, his party currently controls the House and Senate...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't mean he would be President because he may not have the support of most Republicans in the House and Senate. A leadership election would be held in a parliamentary system. For example, the Conservative Party (UK) held a leadership election in 2005. Conservative MPs voted for a new leader from a selection of four candidates. Another example is the Labour Party's leadership election last year. Although, it had different rules. A leader was elected by Labour Party members and registered and affiliated supporters.
TL;DR. Trump could only become leader of the Republican Party if most members of the party voted for him.
I like it slow. We need time to have our epic decades long political battles to be dead certain that the course we choose is absolutely right.
The ship of state should be like a cruise ship, not a jet ski. If you turn this ship too fast people spill their drinks, and no one wants to clean up the mess.
Inefficient how? The USA has the highest GDP in the world (roughly equivalent to the entire European Union with 3/5ths the population), is consistently ranked near the top in science and technological innovation, has the largest and most powerful military in the world, has the most racially and culturally diverse society in the world, and is also one of the most libertarian countries in the world.
Saephon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:23:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many, if not all of those things, can be true while being completely irrelevant to the prosperity of working class citizens. You might as well say, "How is the U.S. in trouble? The stock market's up!"
Was it designed that way, or just how people analyze it now? From my take the Founders were winging it doing the best job they could, and often they speak of their own shortcomings, personal and political. In fact Washington addresses the partisan division that blossomed between the federalists and anti-feds in his farewell speech, and is a major reason why he left office.
It was definitely designed that way. The way the midterm elections are structured is a good example of the Founder's attempts to make sure the pendulum doesn't swing too quickly.
Ummm no, considering there was no term length for a president until the 20th century. Edit: I withdrawal statement, I was thinking of how many terms a president runs for. It's early still >_< Edit 2: But that being said, that still only deals with the house doesn't it? Don't senators serve 6 years? Which staggers between midterm and election. And was this number lifted from Roman precedent, or altered for the US?
alSeen ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:47:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Senators are elected every 6 years, but they don't all go up for re-election at the same time. 1/3rd (about) goes up every 2 years.
Well the system is designed to make changes. It's funny, many of the things that restrict such a thing are changes that were added. Many forget that the draft of constitution the US uses was not the first. The first failed. The first was the articles of confederation. However it was weak, and we needed something that gave more power to the government, and so a new constitution was drafted. Many people also forget prior to the revolution, the states hated each other. It would be this system, the federal government, that would be the glue that bonded a newly formed union together. Sentiments repeated during the US civil war. People that say our system was designed to be weak and inefficient are mistaken, especially on design, as this was when the US was most vulnerable, and needed to be held together more than ever. You are mistaken, laws can be changed, the constitution itself can be. It was designed this way. Following the articles of confederation the Founders needed a framework that would be fluid and allow them to alter things when they came across, or discovered something didn't work out. It was expected this constitution would last only 30-40 years, until a time a new Constitution would set the stone, however it was seen that this element, the ability to adopt change in government, that gave our constitution the flexibility our nation needed to function.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Proditus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i.e. The constitution is good because it supports some things that I support, but bad because it supports some things that I don't support. It would be nice if all laws changed to suit my worldview.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:42:41 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is no argument to what it really means. It has been litigated, explained, and decided by the supreme court. You might disagree with the plain text, that doesn't mean there are different interpretations.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:57:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It should be slower. We don't need new laws (the Congressional Budget Office literally cannot determine the number of laws passed last year, much less the total number of laws - they've tried) we need less government interference in our day-to-day lives.
When the Founders set up the country we had 10 laws. Today we have 20,000 laws for guns alone - I'm not trying to make it a gun issue, but it's a great example because 240 years ago there was one gun law stating that the right to have guns by citizens should not ever be infringed, and today there are literally more than 20,000 laws specifically infringing the rights for citizens to have a gun. Do some of those laws make sense; of course they do. But the exponential growth into the leviathan of government that we have today make it impossible for an individual to know all of the laws.
dorekk ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:51:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
240 years ago "a gun" was a much simpler concept than it is today.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:04:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
20,000 times more complex?
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh...arguable.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So.. I'm fully aware of the irony that I'm linking to Deadspin... However this is literally just a list of the corrections they have made. They have been a "news" organization for less than 5 years.
I read a good chunk of the "fuck ups" in that article and I'm not seeing anything egregious. Every newspaper makes mistakes; journalists are generally not subject matter experts.
Anecdotally, I have read some interesting articles on Vox that were pretty high quality but I would never confuse an online newspaper/history blog with a scientific journal.
" An earlier version of this post suggested there was a bridge connecting Gaza and the West Bank. Various plans to do this have been floated, but the bridge was never actually built."
This is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read. I remember reading this article when it was posted and I remember thinking I had accidentally clicked into an Onion article. They used this "bridge" to argue that Israel was oppressing Muslims in the region because they had strict control of this "bridge". A 4 second google would have discredited this and they WROTE AN ENTIRE ARTICLE ABOUT IT.
Did you read the article that it was talking about? It's a beginner's guide to the Hamas-Isreal conflict. They didn't write an article about a bridge that was never built, it was a small portion. It was a mistake on the author, but not damning for the paper or even the article.
So if I wrote an article about how the moon affects tides, and its orbit around the Earth, and said emphatically (with a photo and caption) that the moon was made of cream cheese it wouldn't have any bearing on how you viewed the article?
That's not a valid comparison because it's common knowledge that the moon is in fact Gouda. It's not common knowledge whether there is a bridge between Israel and Gaza.
The journalist made a mistake. They issued a correction. It happens. I'm not going to discredit the whole site for that.
Ok how about this one that speaks to basic human intelligence?
"The first chart in an earlier version of this post said it listed the number of toilets per capita, not per 100 people. Clearly that was wrong โ 102 toilets for every 1 Boulder resident would be way too many."
Is it really though.. They posted an article, this I assume, means it was approved by editors. They thought there were 100 toilets PER PERSON.
dipsy18 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:44:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8, 12, 16 right off the bat are huge mistakes and totally mislead the reader. You're right, every newspaper does make mistakes, but minor..usually technical mistakes( just like the deadline article states). However, these errors are inexcusable for journalists imho.
Correction: January 13, 2016
An earlier version of this article misstated the source of gas commonly used for residential lighting in the late 19th century. It was manufactured gas, which is produced from coal, oil and other feedstocks, not natural gas.
Correction: January 13, 2016
An earlier version of this article referred imprecisely, using information from United States officials, to the financing provided by the government to support gay rights globally since 2012. More than $41 million has been spent by the United States for that specific purpose, not more than $700 million. Gay communities and causes have also received a portion of the $700 million, which was spent on marginalized and โat-riskโ groups like the disabled, religious and ethnic minorities, and women and girls exposed to gender-based violence, American officials said.
This is what happens when you publish thousands of articles a year. Yeah, they made mistakes and probably half-read their sources in a lot of these cases, but this article isn't damning.
dipsy18 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:06:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For number 8, you are focusing on the headline. They had to correct the entire article including the headline! Please read before you post.
You're going to have to show me where that's written in either article. The list just quotes the correction at the bottom of the page, and the original has nothing more on the fact that it was a rewrite.
It looks more like they just added this line:
(Israeli Arabs were not polled).
and wrote the word "Jewish" in front of every use of "Israeli".
dipsy18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay if I wrote an entire article about how 99% of people polled in Illinois are voting for a Republic candidate and then followed up by saying "oops! Sorry, forgot to add that the people that were polled are all republicans" It kinda changes the entire point of the article doesn't it and I would be a very shitty journalist...case closed
Intent has a lot to do with it. If you have intent to deceive, then you would be. But I'd expect every journalist to make at least one mistake at some point in their career.
dipsy18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, you are pretty naive if you believe journalists( especially those at Vox ) aren't trying to push an agenda.
uvwaex ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:15:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"The Internet"
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:15:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It doesn't work like that, this isn't how a discussion works. Try again.
wantmake ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:39:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How has Obamacare been an unmitigated disaster?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:41:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Deagor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:17:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
especially considering most of the problems repubs point out tend to be caused by blocks put in place by repubs against obamacare
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like the complete failure of co-ops founded with hundred million dollar loans from the feds? The ones that suffered from the exact moral hazard and adverse selection that was brought up by every analyst with a basic understanding of how insurance works?
Balance is what they intended for. I will be voting Republican this time around for 2 reasons. 1) I am a strong believer in the balance I just alluded to and 2) I cannot bring myself to vote for 4 more years of gridlock. Only a Republican President will be able to get things done this election cycle and I think it is time for that line of thinking given how things have gone the past 7+
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:30:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a realist way to look at it. Fact: Bernie will be able to get very little done as a President. That is why there is only 3 Democrats running and there was 17 Republicans. Yes, I do support a wall assuming Mexico at least co-finances it. I recently moved from NY to Texas and see the problem illegal immigration poses almost daily. Negotiation 101: take a hard stance. Trump took a very hard one saying Mexico will pay for the entire thing. We have a lot of leverage in this negotiation. Realistically they will co-finance and American workers will be primarily behind the project.
Ugh, why did you have to defend the goddam wall? I was on board your argument the way, then this fucking wall comes up.
The wall is a silly sideshow. It literally had nothing to do with your main point. That guy dangled it out there as bait to paint you as an irrational extremist and it worked. It absolutely worked. You got ambushed by a wall! A wall that doesn't even fucking exist yet!
That stupid wall idea has become the r/Politics version of a Nigerian prince scam. People trod it out to identify who the extremists are. Nothing good comes from talking about the wall.
The wall is barely on the radar as reasons for my supporting Trump. If Mexico will at the very least co-finance it, then yes, absolutely. Especially if it puts more Americans to work and secures our border.
Implementing other initiatives like e-verify and stricter visa regulations will do just as much to curb the problem so we can start getting Illegal Mexicans/central Americans back home safely and the ever-growing American welfare class who will actually pay their fair share of tax, back to work.
An asterisk on their name so if they choose to apply to come back, they will have a shorter waiting period is perfectly agreeable with me but they need to go through the legal process. Some Illegals are Illegals because they know they would not be accepted legally because of their gang affiliations, criminal history, etc. No bueno
No offense but a slow government with checks and balances is much preferred over one that can allow one party to basically do w/e the fuck they want when in power.
Would any of you be advocating for change if it were Republicans in control of both Congress and the Presidency?
Personally I'm already pissed off at some of the things Obama has done through executive actions to basically bypass Congress.
What he has done with Title IX for example has been almost a complete disaster that has resulted in kangaroo courts where English teachers are in charge instead of I don't know... Actual professionals like the police? Who can seriously defend having math professors and English teachers handling sexual assault cases instead of the police? It's basically a fuck you to due process.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:44:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So the US government is the qwerty keyboard: made to slow the typing speed down so the keys wouldn't get jammed in the writing machines.
This is a myth.
pepsi109 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure there are many things in our constitution that don't work for the 21st century, yet we have made it blasphemous to even mention a change now.
eukomos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Inefficient progress is much better than efficient disaster, if you ask me. The founding fathers knew the details of the collapse of the Roman Republic quite well, and a major contributor to the failure of that system was handing sweeping powers over to politicians and generals who pretty much turned into warlords because of the fear that whatever problem they were having at the moment was such a terrible crisis that more efficient use of power was needed.
Any hey, sometimes it worked. Early in the Roman civil wars a temporary dictator named Sulla had several thousand of his political enemies executed and by God it patched up the government well enough for the republic to stagger along for a few more decades. Success!
There was also a somewhat successful argument that many of the safeguards put in place after the stock market crash prior to Great Depression were outdated. That argument worked out real well for us about seven or eight years ago. /s
adilu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's more about checks and balances which encourages politicians to compromise than slowness. I know that many Americans feel frustrated about their system, but as someone from a country which has been terribly suffering from the lack of such checks and balances in the last decade (Turkey), I respect Madison and all those guys who put counter-majoritarian measures in place more and more everyday. Today the political spectrum is polarized in the US and it's difficult to come to a compromise more than ever. But this doesn't mean it's going to remain so forever. You may not like the fact that some of the changes you are for may not happen in your lifetime, but it's better than learning the consequences of 'fast government' the hard way.
They also scrapped a slower, more decentralized government in favor of one that was more responsive to the needs of a country to function.
peesteam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:23 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's inefficient on purpose.
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roma258 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the argument that the Presidential system has supported a stable, democratic form of government is the strongest one it has (the unpleasantness of the mid-1800s aside). I often find myself envious of the efficient resolution of crises by the various Parliamentary systems and their short election cycle (everyone hates the current coalition? boom, election next month!) but it does seem to produce a sort of instability and uncertainty that we, for the most part manage to avoid.
But the last 6 years have made me wonder. We've been on the verge of some pretty disastrous stuff, only to pull back from the brink (debt default is just one example). And this is primarily the result of the executive and legislative branches of government being fundamentally at odds with each other and having wildly different ideas about governing.
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roma258 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That the optimistic (?) interpretation. But it all stems from the legislative and executive branches being essentially adversarial towards each other, when opposing parties are in power.
dipsy18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DOMA was struck down by the supreme court, the gay marriage debate is over and has nothing to do with this election cycle or further ones..let it go...
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dipsy18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You really can say never in this instance. The gay marriage national debate was really just trying to convince the older generation of news ways of thinking. With my generation ( 30s ), nobody I know ( republican or democrat ) cares about sexual orientation. So, as we continue to move forward I'm pretty confident it will never be an issue again.
rhllor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC there are a lot of religious liberty shit running around state legislatures lately, most aimed against LGBT people. Like what happened with Roe - sure they can't overturn it, but they can definitely make it significantly more difficult, bit by bit, year after year.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean by "religious liberty shit"?
rhllor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's a recent one from a random link I got when I googled "religious liberty bills".
dipsy18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like what? I haven't heard about anything besides maybe lone wolf representatives just talking. Do you have any examples of legislature that has any real chance of passing?
rhllor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:51 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read my reply below, there's also a lot if you google "religious liberty bills". You're missing the point though, specific bills are not the point. Look at Roe. Over several decades, a lot has been done to chip away at those rights. I don't remember if it was Texas or Mississippi or some other state that only has one abortion provider in the entire state. The same thing is being done to LGBTs. They might not be able to overturn the SC decision, but they will definitely try to make things difficult for LGBT people as much as possible.
DARIF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Both forms of government tend to use a representational system where citizens vote to elect politicians to represent their interests and form the government. However, in a republic, a constitution or charter of rights protects certain inalienable rights that cannot be taken away by the government, even if it has been elected by a majority of voters. In a "pure democracy," the majority is not restrained in this way and can impose its will on the minority.
Anyway here's some interesting excerpts I found, turns out you need the oldest continuing qualifier because world's oldest democracy is a hotly contested claim!
The term democracy, which means โrule by the people,โ was coined by the Greeks of ancient Athens to describe their city-stateโs system of self-rule, which reached its golden age around 430 B.C. under the skilled orator and politician Pericles. It is probable that the Athenians were not the first group of people to adopt such a system (a few places in India have traditions of local democracy that claim earlier origins) but because the Greeks named it, they have a good claim at being the โfirstโ democracy, even though large portions of Athenian societyโmost notably women and slavesโcould not participate.
The title of oldest continuously functioning democracy is more hotly contested. Iceland, the Faroe Islands and the Isle of Man all have local parliaments founded in the ninth and 10th centuries, when Vikings pillaged, plundered and set up legislative bodies on the sea-islands of far northern Europe. Icelandโs national parliament, the Althing, dates back to A.D. 930, but it spent centuries under Norwegian and Danish rule. Man and the Faroes, meanwhile, remain dependencies of the United Kingdom and Denmark, respectively.
The United States is among the oldest modern democracies, but it is only the oldest if the criteria are refined to disqualify claimants ranging from Switzerland to San Marino. Some historians suggest that the Native American Six Nations confederacy (Iroquois), which traces its consensus-based government tradition across eight centuries, is the oldest living participatory democracy. Others point out that meaningful democracy only arrived at a national level in 1906, when Finland became the first country to abolish race and gender requirements for both voting and for serving in government.
The US itself is not really a democracy, it is a republic and that distinction is real because a Democracy would have already failed. they only last about 50 years.
It is better to say the USA is the oldest government which has not experienced any radical change. The UK changed from being a country still ruled by a monarch to a constitutional monarchy as defined by powers of the executive transferred to ministers and the royal becoming Neutral, this occurred with Queen Victoria, after the US started as its own country.
Some comments refer to Iceland and Switzerland. Iceland was Danish, then between 1814 and 1918 had a change resulting is somewhat self rule. Then 1918 to 1944 it was a Kingdom and in 1944, it gained full independence from Denmark, all of which happened after America started.
Switzerland started out in its old confederacy, which eventually collapsed from invasions by Napoleon, the resulting failed helvetic republic was next and in 1848 the modern switzerland was created and the Swiss who created the new federation stated it was heavily influenced by the US Constitution and ideas from the French Revolution, obviously this 1848 time occurs after America was created.
So it is probably more accurate to say America has the oldest uninterrupted government following the same basic structure from its beginning until today. Every other nation, which existed at the time, has had at least one significant interruption in government and a resulting change in style of government after the interruption, or simply a change in style of government.
I always figured it was designed slow, if that's really what happened, because the country was pretty spread out and it took a little for the horses to get back and forth with messages.
h0twired ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:00:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that could result in tyranny.
Or possibly progress...
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h0twired ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Progress for a nation going bankrupt fighting wars over oil.
Progress for a nation of people going bankrupt because they got sick.
Progress for a nation obsessed with guns while the number of mass shootings continues to climb
Progress for a nation filled with farmers unable to make ends meet and required to buy seed from Monsanto.
Progress for a nation with more incarcerated people per capita than any other country in the world.
Progress for a nation that spends billions on a space program while kids go hungry.
Progress for a nation whose teachers are paid little more than the waiter at a restaurant.
dorekk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:46:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think the Founders ever considered a political landscape as fractious as ours is now. 200 years ago, this system worked. Even 100 years ago, it more or less worked. Now? I think we need to rethink how it works. For example, I don't think it's possible to amend the Constitution anymore. I just can't imagine enough of our elected representatives having that much consensus over anything anymore.
In Canada we have NO checks or balances though, unless there's a minority government.
Just look what "The Harper Government" was able to pull off (first of all... let's just talk about the self-important narcissism of actually referring to itself as such)
We have an impotent Senate. Appointed, rather than elected... oh great, they have no special interests to serve! Wait, they had to serve them beforehand to even get the appointment. So in a slightly more reasonable move, they generally just rubber stamp everything that parliament passes just because they can't actually claim to represent their people.
On the upside... this lack of red tape hopefully means the Libs can undo some of the more grievous things Harper did. Like basically week 1, they reinstated the long-form census with a wave of their hand.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:19:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So in a slightly more reasonable move, they generally just rubber stamp everything that parliament passes just because they can't actually claim to represent their people.
They need to become more like our House of Lords in the UK. The majority of the Lords recently voted down a bill to pass through tax credits, much to the annoyance of the Conservatives, who then decided they would try and limit the power of the Lords. That was a quick change of mind. Can't have people interfering in their plans to make the poor poorer.
Separation of Powers is one of the smartest things about our system, and simultaneously the most frustrating.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most western democracies have separation of powers where it matters - government and judiciary. What the American system does is create the executive - a barricaded lame duck that's essentially just a spokesperson with control of the military.
Canada, the UK, Australia and NZ get more done because they ensure the Prime Minister is part of the elected government. The PM can't unilaterally do anything without the majority support of the members, but is usually the director of policy alongside the ministers. Ministers are sworn in like secretaries and have appropriate powers.
It's not preventing it; however, it is mitigating it.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:19:43 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No parliamentary system, including the US Congress, stops the ability to pass "bullcrap laws". That's up to the representatives.
The Westminister system prevents the sort of gridlock of the US system by having a definitive "Government" and "Opposition" with a single majority vote. No filibusters. No super majorities. Just an up and down vote to pass.
Yep. The whole nation is self regulating. The branches of the government regulate each other, and the people regulate the government with the constitution. The founding fathers intended the second amendment to be a worst case scenario form of regulating the government if they stopped listening to their people and started ignoring the constitution. That kinda worries me that Obama wants to take executive action on gun control. Not saying he is going to take over as a dictator, but no one man should be able to do things like that.
Part of the design is to limit the strength of the federal government and part is to limit popular passions.
Originally, the person with the 2nd most electoral votes would be elected Vice President. So, in effect the first loser of the presidential election became VP.
The 12th Amendment was passed because this lead to creating a mess with the two not getting along.
Additionally, the Executive Branch in the US has a tendency to grab more power than it merits during war time and we've been at war for a long time.
An overly simplified form of how the US Government is supposed to work is that Congress makes laws, the Executive enforces laws, and the Judicial Branch evaluates laws. Each group has some checks and balance on the others.
Instead, we are at a point where we read articles about Republicans in the House and Senate are preventing Obama from creating new laws or improving things.
Part of this is because Congress is so corrupt and incompetent nobody trusts most of them.
Part is because the Media has generally supported the President over Congress. (Both with Bush and Obama)
Part is because the nation is at war.
But, it's honestly rather stupid and dangerous.
What happens if we get Trump and he uses the power in the same way or goes farther than Bush or Obama.
Bohnanza ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:21:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Canada's government is Parliamentary, like a lot of other countries.
FWIW the US constitution contains no mention of any political parties, and certainly no "two party system".
eSDLoco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:31:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you love Canada so much why don't you marry it.
One of our Supreme Court justices recently caused a stir by saying that, if we were to start from scratch, a parliamentary system would benefit us most.
American Government is designed to be inefficient to protect the rights of the people. It's puposefully designed to be this way. Complete partisonship is the only real big issue.
sev1nk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Our democracy is built on compromise, as Obama stated during the SOTU.
SpotNL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:15:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's the nature of democracy, not just the US's.
In Canada, the role of President is actually that of the Queen, or in our case the representative of the Queen, the Governor General. The difference being is that our highest leader is basically a figurehead and nothing more. The power to influence government and deploy troops was removed and placed in parliament. I can't remember if it is still in place, but the Monarchy had the ability to veto bills, but never used it.
Constitutional Monarchy vs. Constitutional Republic.
Si421 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's a great CGP Grey video explaining the recent (and awful) UK elections. I'm sure most people should be able to understand this.
And yeah, I believe UK and Canada work much the same way. It's a shame it doesn't work very well, all the time.
How it used to be was when presidents were elected it was considered a sort of "will of the people" and Congress was a lot more likely to pass what they wanted. That is why often people measure a president by what they do in their first hundred days because that sentiment has yet to wear off. Notice how Obama's ACA was passed very early in the presidency.
Additionally, when a new president is voted in often Congress also gets an influx of that same party. When Obama was first elected there was a majority in both the House and Senate of Democrats. Often though by the midterm elections this changes and people go back to voting opposite party. Generally, though if they get re-elected there is another surge of their party being elected back into Congress. So often (but not always of course) for a few years they do have a Congress that will help them get things done.
Things have gotten a lot worse though because before people used to cross the aisle and at least have some respect for the office. Now for some reason they waste tons and tons of time just pissing each other off and have ceremonial votes.
Most (if not all) European countries work the same way. Government power cannot as easily as in the US be divided. Parlamentarianism kinda guarantees that elections will be held before such things might occur.
How does that work in the voter's mind, anyway? Are you electing a party, which selects the leader (who you may not approve of as an individual)? Or do you really vote for the party's leader, and get the rest of the party along for the ride (whether you like them or not)?
The problem you are bringing up is caused by gerrymandering. Districts are drawn in a manner that allows the party with a minority of State-wide votes can hold a majority of seats in said State.
There are several states that voted for Obama both times but in which a majority of congressional seats went to Republicans, for example.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And it seems like you're government sets themselves up for success. I guess you hope to define success the same way as your majority.
(tyranny of the majority anyone?)
jazaniac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The UK system is much worse. At least here a minority of people can't elect their representatives.
Interesting fact, the governor general selects a party to form parliament, regardless if they have the most representatives or not. I don't know of a case where the governor general asked a party with less representatives to form parliament, and I'd assume this process is more of a formality now, but it's still interesting.
it's called a balance of power. you never want one part of government to be too powerful. it's why we're the most powerful country in the world you are not.
Often it seems that you're setting him/her up to fail.
Yea, that was intentional on the part of the founding fathers. If you read some of their writings you get a sense for their intentions. They didn't want the "mob" to be able to completely throw out the status quo in 1 election. There is a high-burden to affect change due to how things are structured. This has pros and cons for both ends of the political spectrum.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In addition to the answers others have given, the American form of government was not designed with a two-party system in mind. Ideally, the President and Congress would be elected because voters thought they were best for the job, not because of their political parties. The two-party system actually undermines the American system as laid out in the Constitution.
a_frayn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The big difference is their leader gets his power directly from the electorate. Our Prime Minister gets theirs from the Commons (which is elected by the people).
What has really broken the US system is that the conservatives here (Republican party) decided when they took the House majority in the 1994, after decades of Democratic control to imitate the way opposition parties operate in parliamentary systems. Unfortunately that gradually breaks down the ability of the US system to be governable and effective. Now we have crumbling infrastructure and a wealthy class that writes their own laws, and certainly their own tax code, essentially because loopholes and stupid court decisions take years or decades to fix legislatively and the executive and judicial branch are chronically hobbled by the failure of the Senate to confirm appointed positions.
Our system requires far too much consensus and compromise for one party to declare: For the next 4, 6, 8 years we plan to block every thing through every procedural avenue available.
That's kind of the point. By setting up the system like we did, with two houses of Congress, one population dependent and one not, and a president who isn't elected with them, we reduce the risk of one party running away with the ball and force compromise.
Look at all of Obama's agenda. See how much of the early stuff passed on a party line vote when he had the congressional majority. It's still nearly party line, but better. Many of our best known presidents got stuff done the right way, by finding a middle ground everyone was happy with.
After learning about parliamentary systems (like in Canada and the UK), I'm starting to think that they're superior in this age. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if a majority party isn't chosen, it means that some sort of coalition/consensus between parties must be achieved.
Here in the US, we have so many congressional rules and gerrymandering that we've pretty much guaranteed ourselves gridlock for the foreseeable future unless one of our only two parties achieves a super majority. At least in a parliamentary system, it seems like things will be accomplished and promises made during campaigns would be easier to keep.
Well that and the stress of holding the lives of hundreds of millions/billions of people in your hands. Dude does preside over enough nuclear weapons to wipe out civilization. That's a whole level of stress that we can't imagine. Most of us may not agree on all of his decisions but it is still amazing that he was able to hold together this country and the international relations of the globe without it all falling apart and devolving into conflict and chaos
Oh please. Dude has only added to it. Arming rebels, gun running to Mexican cartel, the Libya disaster...
If none of the above took place, I might feel for him, but aside from starting an outright war, the guy is about as hawkish as they come. Same with Hillary.
I thought the Bush administration armed the rebels? Wait no I believe Obama armed the Syrian rebels and the Bush Administration were the ones who dissolved the Iraqi army that would later become ISIS and assist/become the rebels in the Syrian war.
like the two (Iraq and Afghanistan), or three (if you count the 'global war on terror') that was handed to him, and started by his predecessor ?
Interesting (to put it lightly) that you would compare the small-scale actions in Libya or Mexico with those kind of Mutli-Trillion dollar$, hundreds of thousands of boots on the ground conflicts that the Bush GOP rammed us into. Despite the fact that they're not even in the same ball park in terms of money, resources, or troops...so pretty much a reach.
and as for "arming rebels" you seem to forget that that plan is part of a massive coalition of nearly the entire "West" including the EU, US, Canada, and many ME countries...not just the US going it alone (again, like Bush and Company did in Iraq...)
but other than that you are right on...
and no comment on the DOA economy i mentioned that he inherited ?
My point is that he'll be leaving some bad shit to the next guy/gal, too. The housing bubble that helped tank the economy started under Clinton, and was handed to Bush. This will continue with every presidency, most likely.
amazing that he was able to hold together this country and the international relations of the globe without it all falling apart and devolving into conflict and chaos.
He wasn't even able to do that. Race relations are at an all time high, partisanship is high, North Korea just tested another nuke, Syria might as well belong to ISIS, Crimea now belongs to Russia, Ukraine is in turmoil, we are on the verge of having to return to Afghanistan Iraq, and our allies feel like we've abandoned them.
Edit: I'll be fair, he couldn't have prevented the nuke in North Korea. And as a user pointed out we never really left Afghanistan.
Glenbard ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:58:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We never left Afghanistan. We still have thousands of Soldiers deployed there.
All these things OP speaks of are nothing new, just different scenarios. Of course things get worse as time goes on, it's the system that's broken, not one president.
True but it's still a lot less than we had. I think Obama learned his lesson with Iraq.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:59:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not entirely sure a war with Russia would have been the best thing to do. It would have just created more chaos.
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The Obama administration handled the situation pretty well considering. It wouldn't have been possible to deter Russia from invading Crimea because it came out of the blue. We probably had cables suggesting the Russians were going to make a move, but the administration handled it well. By sanctioning the oligarchy of Russia, bringing Germany and France to the negotiating table as major partners, advocating for alternative energy sources for Europe, and providing nonviolent assistance to Ukraine, they have prevented Ukraine from being swallowed up by Russia. The President effectively mitigated the crisis. You don't want to know the other possible outcomes that were presented (Russia sending in 100,000 troops from their southern military district, sweeping from the east all the way to Odessa, or taking everything up to Dnieper River, even Kiev). While it appears to not be a success, Ukraine can be considered a diplomatic plus for the US in what was a highly volatile situation.
I didn't even add in how the administration took advantage of Russia's invasion and increased NATO's military capabilities over the past year. Quick Reaction Forces (which honestly is just power projection and will just be there to pull out valuable assets from Eastern countries if Russia attacks) in Eastern Europe, missile defense systems placed back in Eastern Europe (which block the path of potential Iranian ICBMs to Europe and the US), new gas sources for the EU (a new pipeline is in the works that would be sourced from Iraqi Kurdistan and run through Turkey), etc.
Not much to do when Congress is doing their best to block you at every single step and, thanks to a majority, succeeds
rowd149 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:36:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. It's not even up for discussion; they literally said that their goal was to make sure that the president couldn't get anything done. I don't think that's ever happened before.
Republicans really hate bluh people.
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These Republicans don't care about governing. They just want to "win."
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love how people mention a whole bunch of shit other countries are up to as evidence that the President of the United States of America failed.
Guess what? If Bush hadn't gotten involved with Iraq, ISIS wouldn't exist, and Syria wouldn't be in this situation.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:16:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A Cereal/Milk sandwich.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:59:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"A house divided against itself will not stand". He couldnt even work with the fucking republican-controlled chamber. And not because he didnt try, they just had a massive hard-on against obama. Reminds me of Clinton-Gingrich all over again.
Wolf482 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Democrats kind of did the same thing against Bush when congress was taken back by the Dems. It's not new nor specific to just the Republicans.
He didn't try. It was always "do it my way or I'll do it myself". Obama was the one that refused to compromise then by the time he decided he was ready to compromise (after losing control of the house) he had already created the partisanship. I don't blame the republicans for not working with him, he made them out to be anti-women, racist, wanting to revert back to the 50's where women couldn't vote and blacks couldn't go to school. I wouldn't do vote for anything he wants after making me out to be racist, hating women, and wanting segregation.
Obama is a joke.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:19:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he made them out to be anti-women, racist, wanting to revert back to the 50's where women couldn't vote and blacks couldn't go to school.
Pretty sure their actions make themselves out to be those things.
SpotNL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:21:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't blame the republicans for not working with him, he made them out to be anti-women, racist, wanting to revert back to the 50's where women couldn't vote and blacks couldn't go to school.
Surely you have quotes on this.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're an idiot. Obama had a supermajority and a chance to pass basically any law his party wanted. And he still decided to work with the Republicans anyway, in the spirit of bipartisanship. (Probably to not look like a bully to the American people.) How'd that work out? Pretty fuckin' shitty.
Obama's mistake in the first couple years of his presidency was attempting to compromise at all, not compromising too much.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he made them out to be anti-women, racist, wanting to revert back to the 50's where women couldn't vote and blacks couldn't go to school.
What's wrong with that?
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:29:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except that Clinton went along with Gingrich and saw an economic boom because of it. Obama has fought the House and Senate tooth and nail and our economy has been anemic because of it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Humm, Gingrich shutdown the government, ergo, Monica. I remember seeing the video clips of Gingrich being a complete ass to Slick Willy and countering him all the time. I do agree with you about obama picking fights when some of them were unnecessary.
It's amazing going how people still give him the benefit of the doubt based on what he "inherited". He had 2 freaking terms to get something done,one of which was with a super majority.
His only legacy to date, is the Affordable Care Act.
Wolf482 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:29:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a registered Republican but am a Libertarian in all actuality. I'll give him this, I was extremely happy to see him establish ties again with Cuba. I was ecstatic when that Cold War relic was destroyed.
SpotNL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the Iran deal. Sometimes you got to extend an olive branch, and I'm glad both parties took it. Iran is far from perfect, but it's not the monster hiding in your closet either.
I wouldn't say race relations are at an all time high, I'd say police and their systemic behavior is at an all time WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE THIS SHIT ANYMORE. My experience has been that all the colors of the rainbow are doing better than ever now that everyone realized that Blue is the problem. /s
That seems pretty low stress to me. There are two paths:
1) You're the kind of person that DOESN'T want to nuke everyone. So you don't. Not killing humanity == not stressed.
2) You're the kind of person who DOES want to nuke everyone. So you figure out how you can do it and you get to do it. Living a psychotic dream == not stressed.
how can you even blame it on Congress? His own party was in power for a long time and even when the Democrats got together with Bush to pass immigration reform in 2007, both parties decided to act a fool
I wonder if that has anything to do with how our government is designed to function, hmmmmmm.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:01:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why he doesn't do it.
fockface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or it's just a terribly timed photograph. I guarantee you you can find a bunch of bright bubbly Obama pictures from that night. They wouldn't go with the narrative of this post of course.
Basically all of the top pictures in a Google search show a much more relaxed and comfortable looking Obama.
EDIT: link
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
taking a screenshot from a video at just the right moment will do that to you
stonefry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read this with Obama's voice.
Dire87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I was dealing with stubborn dickheads every day, and I was nowhere near the political field...working in a high stress environment will do that to you. It's not just Congress, but I think the higher the responsibilities the sooner the symptoms show.
xsladex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you believe in all that Myers Briggs personality stuff I can give some insight into possibly why Obama might be prone to stress. Apparently he is an ENFJ which what makes him incredibly kind hearted, charismatic, and an especially good leader. However the weight of the world can take a toll on him emotionally because he is very empathic. I am also an ENFJ. Too altruistic for our own good. Incredibly sensitive
verity77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vampires are sucking his blood and aging him!
csmit244 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every president looks like this before and after and I assure you, a shitty congress pales in comparison to the stress of being a 'world leader' and dealing with foreign politics.
People often say that with these kinds of 'comparison' photos, but you have to remember this is 8 years of difference. Unless you're Will Smith, 8 years will make you look tired!
He's 54 years old now. Most men his age look noticeably worse than they did 7 years ago. He's now ~15% older than he was going in, and it's showing.
Going into his first year of presidency, it was like he was a newlywed man. We all went on some dates with him during the election, we said "I do" on Election Day, and now here we were together on our honeymoon. But he was still putting on a mask, trying to impress and look his best. Now we've been married for 7 years. Maybe we've had a few disagreements. He tells jokes that would have embarrassed him all those years ago. He farts in our presence, and sometimes even goes for the Dutch Oven.
In this century, tabloids follow the president like an A list celebrity, which means we've seen him at his best, but we've also seen him at his worst. His personal life is covered more in the media than any president before him, and he knows it. After years of having been in the spotlight, he probably just doesn't care about his physical appearance nearly as much. Sure, he still tries to look professional at public events (he is the president after all), but he's not up for re-election, so why try to impress?
Or that you spent the entirety of the defense budget as your personal escort around the world. What a stupid report, the entire US Navy was apparently following Obama around in Hawaii on vacation.
I'll just note quickly here that Teddy Roosevelt was invigorated by the presidency aside from one bout of insomnia, and was never seen yawning or tired or worn out while president, while maintaining a work ethic that far surpassed Obama's, and while bringing the country together, while increasing our stature, and avoiding war, while expanding the military, and without increasing the deficit at all.
sansoar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yes
btwchic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
probably cosmetics to make him look tired like he "did a bang up job in a tough situation"(true, but media exaggerates and no team gets neglected more than the cosmetic team). Like he looked fresh and young 8 years ago, but old and wise by age now... I wager a few months out of office he is going to miraculously appear his age again.
Teekoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He just looks older.
ld2gj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Between congress, dumb people who cannot read or understand facts, other nations, lobbyists, etc; who would not be?
Every president who has had double terms looks way older. W and Clinton both looked way older after their 8 years were up. Lots of gray hair, more lines in their face, "it's not the years, it's the mileage".
rcbs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That happens when you hate your job and suck at it.
CSMom74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You guys do realize that he has a lot of makeup on in the first pic, and less on in the second. It's very well known that he does wear make-up, especially for these television appearances. Pretty much all presidents do.
Yes, he has more deeply etched lines near his mouth and forehead, but that huge skin change is makeup. He had on rather thick pancake foundation in the first pic. He even had on lip color. I don't know if the droopy look is from being mid-blink or what. However, he DOES have on a lot more makeup in the first pic. Or just different makeup.
It's a compound thing; a lot stress -- a lot -- and frankly, past 55 a lot of people start to age more obviously. Skin loosens up, you get a wattle, what lines you have grow more pronounced. You can fight it with cosmetic surgery or lots of botox, or both (Hi, Mitt!).
But the intensity of it, yes, I'm guessing that's the job. Remember, FDR died getting the nation through WWII.
Every two term president does. Seven years of working 20 hour days and going from crisis to crisis as de facto world leader while also dealing with Congress tends to do that. I know the president doesn't run the world, but at this time the US is top dog and that means you get a ton of crap to deal with from all over the world.
All presidents age so god damn quickly it seems, except Reagan he sucked the youth and life out of the country
terrymr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's been in a tough spot. He's the first (half) black president so people kind of announced that racism was dead based on his election. At the same time he's been subjected to constant crap from the right, using every dogwhistle they've used against blacks for years but if he complains about it he will be the one accused of "playing the race card".
That and congress has achieved new heights of disfunctionality to the point that even essential government functions don't get carried out or do but at the last possible minute etc. Heck if they could cut off funding for white house electricity just to spite him they would.
Lack of sleep is what has aged him so. I had a kid and didn't sleep well for the first 18 months. Our entire nation is a bunch of fucking children so Obama has aged 8 years times 350 million crybabies.
Wizzer10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:57:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are wrong and I am sad for you.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:22:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Season 2 of Danger 5 is by far the best second season to any show I have ever seen. Danger 5 is probably one of my favorite shows ever. The ending. Oh my god the ending. Nothing will ever come close to the feelings I got from watching Danger 5, and then again nothing will come close to the last 5 minutes of the last episode. I don't even know how to describe how I felt. That show was so fucking retarded, but easily is in my top 5 shows I have ever seen. Like the other guy said, you are plain wrong, that show is fucking amazing. I want my nachos italianos!
It's really that good huh? The first episode really kicked me in the balls I guess. I hated that they replaced Pierre, and hated that Tucker and Claire got married. In the end if I don't like season 2 it'll be about 3 hours gone from my life lol
inept77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. I thought season 1 of Danger 5 was amazing. Lighting in a bottle there. Then S2 just fell really flat. The first one was very episodic and didn't take itself overly serious. The second had a definite overarching story that just didn't fit well with the show. Granted, there were some great moments. But overall, it left a lot to be desired.
He isn't coming back. They never do. That is the whole point, you never really have to hold whatever they ask you to hold. Just drop it on the ground, and don't go following them down that rabbit whole yourself.
We simply don't know how old Jesus was. Most believe he was executed in 33 AD. Herod the Great died in 4 BC, and most believe Jesus was 2 years old when Herod died. So, he could have been 40.
I don't know, that may be the case. I do know that he would have to have been executed AT THE EARLIEST in 30 AD because of the political figures mentioned in the bible, and he would have to have been born during the reign of Herod the Great, which would be at the very latest 4 BC. Given the circumstances of the purging of the young boys, 6 BC is far more likely, and 33 AD virtually universally accepted as when the execution was likely to happen.
and yet... downvotes. Shit like this is why I hate Reddit sometimes. Go look it up. There's a huge wikipedia article on it.
I think people just like 33 because it lets you stick a bunch of 3's onto Jesus and then spin off a bunch of other mathe-spiritual stuff based on that.
Source: John Milton
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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N0gai ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:21:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Five dollars are like 2 days of food. For some people that's something.
I think 33 though? He started his ministry at 30 (traditional rabbinical age) and preached for 3 years before he was crucified, I think. Sunday school was a long time ago for me, though.
He's 20 years younger at the end of an 8 year term then Bernie Sanders would be at the end of his first term
n00bface ยท 252 points ยท Posted at 15:29:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie Sanders would be the oldest president inaugurated. Another cool fact: Bill Clinton was younger than Barack Obama when he took office. I hadn't realized until looking it up today.
Huh, TIL. Bill Clinton was 46 years, 154 days old while Barack Obama was 47 years, 169 days oldโjust over a year older. Also, TIL Teddy Roosevelt was the youngest president at 42 years, 322 days old at inaugurationโabout 8 months younger than JFK (however, JFK was the youngest elected president). Lots of neat facts on the Wikipedia page.
This set some gears turning in my head. I feel bad for not remembering this from my high school civics class, but until the 12th Amendment was ratified (a brief 16 years after the ratification of the Constitution), it looks like there was a sort of "Air Bud" loophole regarding the VP. Or, at any rate, that's how it seems to me (someone with zero legal education beyond said high school civics class).
There are eligibility requirements laid out for Representatives, Senators, and Presidents, but nothing for Vice Presidents. The Twelfth Amendment includes the clause, "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." Without that, well, couldn't they have elected a dog to the VP position, since "ain't no rule says a dog can't play basketball. be Vice President"? And imagine if the President he served with was assassinated!
Now, surely, a dog President would fall under the "inability" part of the succession clause. However, to stretch this even further, the Constitution only provides that the VP shall succeed the President, and leaves the rest up to further legislation:
In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the Same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.
The first Presidential Succession Act was passed in 1792. In an alternate universe where George Washington's VP was a dog rather than John Adams, that would have left three years where, if Washington had been assassinated or otherwise suddenly and unexpectedly incapacitated, there would have been a brief period where a dog would have been president while the legislature scrambled to write emergency legislation to rectify the matter. I'd like to be a fly on the wall for that discussion.
...I may have gotten a little too serious about this dog-VP thing. Regardless, thank you for giving me the inspiration.
onan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Warren's fanbase has 100% overlap with Sanders' fanbase. The usual purpose of a VP candidate is to win over additional people who weren't already committed to voting for the presidential candidate.
yen223 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:20:08 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He will continue to age at an accelerated rate even after his presidency, because both of his daughters are teenagers now.
wuzizname ยท 3269 points ยท Posted at 15:02:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a saying that if you have a teenaged boy you only need to worry about his one dick, if you have a teenaged girl you need to worry about everyone's dick.
Yea but, if you have a daughter, you only have to worry about her getting pregnant. If you have a son, you have to worry about dozens of girls potentially being pregnant.
[deleted] ยท 1639 points ยท Posted at 17:35:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha my parents sure didn't have to worry about that
Leanador ยท 184 points ยท Posted at 17:53:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but if you have a son then you don't have to worry about him being a slut, since we glorify men for casual sex while we shame women for the same. Come on, that's 50% of what this penis worrying is really about: slut shaming.
dorekk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what literally all of the penis-worrying is about.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:35:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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JEesSs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Regardless of how promiscuous you are, its not like you have a fucking ocean of good looking men just waiting in line to bang you. Unless you're willing to sleep with anyone, you'd need some pretty good looks and charm to pull it off as a woman too you know.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:37:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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JEesSs ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:45:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But that's the thing, at least 95% of those are unwanted. Getting laid with people you are actually attracted to is a completely different story.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:57:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to think there's a lot of really creepy guys with more brains than confidence that makes up a majority of the unwanted attention.
JEesSs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:34:27 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whilst that could be true to some extent, I agree more with u/FlashCrashBash on this one. Most of the people that approach you tend to be the ones who are just being really creepy, plain rude/misogynistic/sexually harassing, or just very inappropriate. Quite few are actually respectful and decent people (who can also accept a no if you're not interested). Also, since decent people don't really tend to approach you randomly and start hitting on you, they unfortunately get heavily outnumbered by the narcissistic jerks.
So, to find decent people as a woman, you kind of have use the same approach as men: go search for people and try to approach them in a nice/non-creepy way. This can be hard for women too regardless of what men believe. Also, remember that most women aren't plain gorgeous, and its not like any guy would want them just because they are a woman.
Of the people around my age and location not really.
JEesSs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:40 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
95 percent of people around you is not the same as the 95 percent of people hitting on you via tinder (or hitting on you in any way really). But that's pretty obvious though isn't it?
Handgun, bullets, shoot multiple people, serial killer, done. That's a horrible comparison, actually getting women to want to be with you is a hard task to accomplish that requires lots of skills and qualities, whereas being a fucked up killer requires very little skill and no qualities.
That depends on what you think successful means. To me, if somebody kills a whole bunch of people, then they're a successful serial killer as they've completed the "task" of killing a whole bunch of people without being caught up to that point, even if they're caught after.
But less like a successful charity, because every time a stud gets given sex, the person giving the sex (the slut) is devalued--not commended for her donation.
So it's more like a successful con artist because the "giver" is left worse off by the interaction. But the same type of analogy applies to contradict the logic: it's easy to succeed as an honest worker; it's hard to succeed as a con artist.
I wouldnt say the slut feels devalued, i dont think the slut cares. If the slut cared then the slut would stop acting like a slut.. or get a boyfriend :P
It's irrelevant whether the slut FEELS devalued. By the logic that's behind this entire discussion, the slut IS devalued.
But nit picking at this analogy is getting away from the original point, which is that glorifying men for having casual sex, while shaming the women who do the same, is a misogynistic choice that people make.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:53:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Casual sex for women indicates poor decision making just because getting sex is easier for women than it is for men? That doesn't make sense. By that logic, getting a job in the child care field indicates poor decision making for women too, because society has made it easier for women to get those jobs.
I don't agree with that but even if I did, so what? Is it the woman's fault that men are easy? Why would we slut shame women who have sex just because "it's not hard?"
That's like looking down on someone for eating ice cream because it's not that hard to get ice cream in America.
Come on. The real reason guys slut shame is because they're insecure that they're not the ones having sex. It takes two to tango, so obviously guys are getting laid somewhere, people just get upset when it's not them.
DiceboyT ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:54:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, that's 100% what it's about and it's pretty hilarious watching redditors try to justify this sexist nonsense with cries of "but preventing teen pregnancy!!!".
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:13:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really trying to shoehorn that asshole agenda in there aren't you?
No it isn't. Unwanted pregnancies are resource drains that affect everyone else in the family. It's not slut shaming, it's 'You are unable to provide for a child on your own, you are not permitted to affect everyone else in your family with the creation of a new member until you are responsible enough to provide for any potential offspring you decide to have.'
Women get pregnant, men don't. Women are responsible for bearing that burden because it's their body, and if they're to be free and autonomous in the burden of that body, they have to own the responsibility themselves. It's hand in hand with the right to choose.
Lol broken people? Seriously? Sounds like you're insecure about something...
Simply wanting to experience new people and have fun doesn't make you broken.. not everyone wants a full-time relationship or has even found the person they feel is right for them. Some people just got out of a long-term relationship and just want to have a few drinks and get laid every now and then. So simply because they choose to spend their time differently than you makes them 'broken'? You sound like a television evangelist.
You're just picking the worst examples you can think of to falsely illustrate how bad casual sex is. Casual sex isn't really the problem here, poor life decisions and unhealthy relationships are. Plenty of people enjoy and have casual sex without either of those problems, and even more have those problems without it having anything to do with sex.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:55 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife and I are polyamorous, so that conversation wouldn't be weird for us. For the more average couple, why even have that discussion in the first place if it makes you (or them) uncomfortable? Why is that an argument not to do something that makes you happy?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:46 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doing cocaine makes me happy also. That doesn't mean I'm going to advocate it.
Of course the guy advocating being promiscuous is an actual cuck. Lol
Unfortunately is easier to get your son to wrap it up, then your daughter to ensure her partner does the same. Unless she take matters into her own hands with female contraceptives.
More things can go wrong one way then the other unfortunately.
Zeliek ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:10:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was a reality for my cousin's son. 3 different girls in the span of a year. That was about 5 or 6 years ago, he's 23 now. We don't talk to that side of the family often, we only saw him and the state of his life 5 or 6 years ago due to a wedding... in which he proposed to his most recent pregnant girlfriend at (tip: don't propose at someone's wedding/they never made it to alter). I think he was 18. He also got really high on something at some point and was dancing alone in the middle of the wedding hall like someone trying to kill a lot of bugs. The whole thing was just... really cringe-inducing.
And no, neither he nor the girls were even remotely attractive. Just white trash.
Let me teach you about STDs and why gay men get them more often....
-_God_- ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:25:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-- but could get an STD, as could any child. It is nice that if you have gay children whether male or female that you don't have to worry about unexpected pregnancy.
Also, birth control and condoms saves the day for the rest of them. Educate your children, folks.
JEesSs ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:18:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A dick doesn't have to impregnate my daughter to get under my nerves. Could even be a nice dick with a good head on it's shaft, but if it gets within four feet of my girl, I'm stressed.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then what's the point of being gay?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Calling them son assumes you recognize them as your child and care about their wellbeing if they happen to be gay เฒ _เฒ
Bwazo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:21:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If he is gay it's n+1
PS4play ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:16:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. For the purpose of your short joke, please expand it to include mass appeal to all genders, sexual identities, and whatever else can possibly be included.
Fox_Lee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a self identified tractor-kin, I feel attacked by my gender/identity not being included in the joke
It's not about fucking guys, it's about knowing what you were doing at that age, which was trying to plow every girl you met. Presumably, you're not gay, so you don't really connect with the idea of your son getting spit-roasted. There's also the whole pregnancy thing.
I'd rather be thinking about my dick penetrating my teenage daughter... toofar?
most_low ยท 385 points ยท Posted at 15:19:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or you could just get her some birth control pills and convince her that it's important to use condoms. Then you hardly have to worry at all.
N9ne25 ยท 191 points ยท Posted at 15:53:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Some parents will never understand... Kids will have sex regardless of what you want, so why not just teach them to be safe? My parents were extremely strict to my older brother and sister with relationships, and guess what? They had babies at a very young age.
If only they taught them the importance of safe sex instead of telling them "SEX IS BAD, YOU WILL GET PREGNANT AND FUCK UP YOUR LIFE," then maybe they wouldn't have actually have gotten fucking pregnant.
Can confirm. Mom didn't want me to make her mistakes, got me birth control at age 14. I'm the only girl I know that never had an unwanted pregnancy.
monizizz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:54:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This! Back when I was in high school I had a friend with a very strict mom who kept her on a tight leash. Like wouldn't let her take the bus places but wouldn't drive her either, curfew was 5 pm, etc. My friend had a boyfriend and they were together most of high school so yes they were obviously having sex. She went and got herself birth control pills and condoms and kept it a secret from her mom. One day her mom went through her purse and found her birth control pills and fucking took them away as punishment and reamed her out for having sex. I still can't believe she did this. Even at the time, as a 16 year old girl I was able to recognize her mother as an idiot woman. Yes my friend did get pregnant a year or so later and yes she did abort it alllllll without her mother knowing. I wish her mother did know because maybe it would have made her realize her daughter was trying to be smart and protect herself whether she was abiding by her mothers rules or not. Ugh bothers me to this day and I have no contact with that family anymore.
spizzat2 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 16:23:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My parents were extremely strict to my older brother and sister with relationships, and guess what? They had babies at a very young age.
If only they taught them the importance of safe sex instead of telling them "SEX IS BAD, YOU WILL GET PREGNANT AND FUCK UP YOUR LIFE," then maybe they wouldn't of actually have gotten pregnant.
You're not wrong about the appropriate sex talk, but it looks like your parents were right.
N9ne25 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:26:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, they were, but only because they never taught them about safe sex. Think about it: kids are going to have sex regardless. But if they actually give them birth control and condoms, they wouldn't of gotten pregnant. They were also taken out of sex ed classes because " they wanted to tell them about it the right way" aka awkward talk where nothing gets said. It's a lot more complicated than what I'm saying, but that's the jist of it.
Edit: they basically said(and still do) that having sex before marriage is horrible and a huge no no.
JEesSs ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:27:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. My mum approached me when I was like 16 and said I should probably go on the pill. She said that even if I'm not having sex now (although I was), I probably will soon, and its better to be prepared. Looking back at that I realise what an amazing thing that was of her to do, since I'd probably never asked for it myself otherwise.
However, I think its not just the parents' responsibility, but the schools as well. Where I'm from they provide you with condoms (and tampons/pads too!) from upper secondary school, and during gymnasium (i.e. A-levels) you can even do pregnancy and chlamydia tests during lunch break if you want to. Its just one of those things I always took for granted, but now realise how incredibly useful it was for us. Especially if you've got a tricky situation with your parents.
dorekk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:21:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was a stupid, self-fulfilling prophecy. If they had told their kids about condoms, guess what? MAYBE THE KIDS WOULD HAVE USED 'EM.
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was a stupid, self-fulfilling prophecy. If they had told their kids about condoms, guess what? MAYBE THE KIDS WOULD HAVE USED 'EM.
rreighe2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:20:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Had to tell my younger brother about condemns and safe sex because my mom is... The type who would say don't have sex till marriage sex bla bla bla - (not that that's bad) but if you're gonna encourage your kids to not have sex that's cool, just still teach them how to be careful about it.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Condemns" lol
rreighe2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oops
loi044 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:39:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kids will have sex regardless of what you want
Sigh... I wish.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:36:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
My parents are conservative and I grew up Methodist. I was told from 7th grade on to wrap it, by my parents and our pastor at confirmation talked about safe sex many times. Shit any sex I had without a condom is because it was awesome, not because I didn't know condom importance. O an 27 year old man whore, cuz sex is great.
O you caught me. It wasn't so I could just make it clear what sex I was (while playing with the whore label like the comment above me). If it makes you feel better I can edit it and remove man. Or just say in the start this statement is made by a man it might offend.
Really? Did no teacher in school mention condoms? I've always thought them to be self explanatory.
N9ne25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well they went to the same school I ended up going to, and with me, they always needed permission slips for any sort of sex ed, and my parents didn't sign them up. I don't know if my siblings knew about condoms or not, but regardless, they wouldn't of been able to get them since they started working after high school and had basically no money
Why does Reddit seem to think this is the reason behind the stereotype, as if dads want their daughter isn't worth anything after losing her virginity? It's because teenage boys really wanna get their cocks wet, so a lot will do whatever it takes. Dad just doesn't wanna see his daughter get hurt from some cunt who lies to her and fucks off as soon as he gets what he wants
We think it because dads feel exactly the opposite about their sons. Dads want their sons to get their dicks wet (without getting a girl pregnant) while wanting to protect their daughters from getting their vaginas pounded. Dads want to hear about their sons partying in college and getting girls. How many want to hear the same from their daughters?
Yet you are still fine with your human male teenagers having sex. There is no explanation for the fact you don't feel the same way about your daughters other than an inordinate fixation on their sexuality and chastity.
I just said we are convinced that nothing wants sex as much as teenage boys. So we think getting railed by every fella in the vicinity is not something we see girls wanting, but fucking every living thing in sight is something we know for a fact boys want. Why would we want something for someone we think they don't want?
Exactly, you don't think they want it. You don't know your daughter's mind or desires and most dads don't try to. If she says, "Ew, I'm tired of being hit on by these guys, Dad" and you step in to stop it as a protector, cool. That's not what happens. Even a boy she does want to have sex with will get the same treatment because you don't want your daughter even having consensual pleasurable safe sex. Dads obsessively try to repel all males from their daughters because they don't want them having sex with anybody. That's creepy.
As a penis owner, you should prepare your daughters to choose the most responsible and sensible penis instead of treating all penises as taboo and "bad".
As usual, never anything to say about the men who ride it.
agxryt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:12:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if your son is a "player"? Would you apply those same standards to him?
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agxryt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:48:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, you give your son a value pack, and tell your daughter not to be the town bicycle?
Condoms prevent STIs. And you just said Condoms don't prevent girls from being town-bicycles. Don't backpedal and pretend your slut shaming is because you want everyone to have safe sex.
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agxryt ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:08:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The anti-PC movement is essentially a bunch of white people complaining that they can't be assholes to every other subgroup nowadays. So don't even bring up that garbage meme.
Your hetero-couple statement makes no sense. A tip for the soon-to-be (if Im translating your stuff right) parent: your wife will teach your daughter about sex and how men are assholes, and to always protect herself. You'll teach her that men are assholes.
Your daughter is going to grow up the way she wants. The only thing you can change is if she hates you or not.
as towards the pedo thing: don't be such a sore loser. Just because you're an idiot doesn't mean you have to paint other people as pedophiles.
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agxryt ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:19:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not based near entirely on their upbringing.
Not going to argue nature vs. nuture with you unless you do some reading first.
The rest of your shit is very angry extrapolation. Who exactly do you have a grudge against? Was your mother a crackwhore, and your sister one too, and now you're all upset about it?
Or are you some moral paragon? There's plenty of churches you can go join, do some slut-shaming, science-bashing, and child-molesting (and then guilting them for liking it! Damn bicycles)
Edit: You're still a misogynist
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agxryt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:38:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These actually are all going away. Literally all of them. Women are now allowed to enjoy sex, and join the miliary. Skinny men are no longer treated as inferior. Men are allowed to show emotion, women are still allowed to show emotion. ETC. ETC.
All of these things were the byproduct of an uneducated society of the past. It made sense then, because reproductive evolution. Nowadays, not so much. All of these things are changing, except in those people (IE you) who resist it. You're trying to blame your previous slut-shaming (the town bicycle comment) on society now, as if society now is slut-shaming and you're just trying to take advantage of it. That's bullshit. You're clearly the one who's opposing modern society, not taking advantage of it. Again, stop backpedaling, and stop trying to use memes to win an argument.
Admit that you have double standards, and want women to have no reproductive rights, and that this is all probably because you got swept up in the anti-PC ideology like a brown kid throwing a bomb.
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agxryt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:34:00 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You really sound like one of those red-pill neckbeard can't get laid vengeful types
JEesSs ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:41:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, lets just never break out of bad habits, ever.
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JEesSs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:40:10 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, lets just never do anything for the good of all of our society, unless it directly benefits me immediately.
I'd argue that our current laws and technology have in some ways reversed the burden of the risks of accidental pregnancy.
If your daughter gets pregnant, she can decide to have an abortion or give the kid up for adoption. (Not that either of those things are easy decisions or fun processes.)
If your son gets a girl pregnant, the decision about what's going to happen for the next 18 years of his life is completely out of his hands.
Remember, if you have a daughter, you only have to worry about one uterus. If you have a son, you have to worry about every uterus.
ZombieL ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:00:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Says a person who doesn't want women to have the same freedoms that men enjoy. In this case, it's the freedom to enjoy casual sex without being devalued for it.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:30:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even if you personally hold the ideological high ground doesn't change anything for the people who have to live their lives around those who do not.
Society. There's nothing good or respectable about being a slut. Guys like them for sex but that's all they're seen as. Nobody takes sluts seriously.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:17:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
And what about men who sleep around? Why don't people in society devalue them? Have you ever considered that women enjoy sex just as much, if not more than men do?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:36:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just something to keep in mind, you're arguing with xXsmok3w33dXx.
I get called a man whore all the time and told I'm never going to find a woman to settle down with and be happy because I am an emotionless ass hole who only thinks with his cock. Not true but gets said alot. Isn't that male slut shaming? Or am I supposed to just accept that as fact because it's what some narrow mined retards want to say.
I don't create the double standards, I'm just the messenger.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:49:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like you have bought right into them as well.
agxryt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:08:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if you're a girl, no. If you're a guy, you're a boss. Right?
Having archaic double standards isn't a good thing.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 16:33:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't matter if you don't shlut shame, because people are going to do it for you, and you shouldn't want that for your children.
agxryt ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:44:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"people are going to do it for you"
people like you, who make other people's sexual lives their business?
"you shouldn't want that for your children"
you mean, you shouldn't want that for YOU? It'd bring shame on the family?
No one's going to slut shame your daughter but you.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:44:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why you are accusing me of anything, I don't really give a shit how much sex a girl has or with who. I am concerned about the wellbeing of peoples kids. The world doesn't live by the ideals that you are espousing. Girls and boys at school will slut shame, so will neighbors, and families. If you live in a small town people who don't know them directly will as well.
It would be nice if people didn't treat womens sexuality in a negative way, but that's the way the world is.
agxryt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:48:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really give a shit about how much sex a girl has
Yes you do. You said very clearly earlier you do.
I am concerned about the wellbeing of peoples kids
Well aren't you a saint
girls and boys at school will slut shame
Yes, and they're kids. You're (hopefully) an adult, and you should know better. Kids in school also throw rocks at each other.
It would be nice if people didn't treat womens sexuality in a negative way
You literally said you'd give your son a box of condoms and tell your daughter not to be the town bicycle. You are those people. Stop trying to play innocent bystander.
If you run around in a circle really really fast, then you actually can go back in time to the 1900s. Give it a go.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:58:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You might want to work on your reading comprehension. I never said any of those things.
Although even if I did, it wouldn't matter. There is a huge difference between how we think the world should be and how it is. The reality is we as a society are nowhere near the acceptance level of female sexuality that you are describing.
So what would you like for your daughter, her formative years of discovering her sexuality being a martyr, living in shame and ridicule? Or cautioning her that while you think that there is nothing wrong with it the world doesn't see it that way, and that her actions have consequences, whether they deserve them or not?
I'm personally a realist, and for my kids wouldn't want to send them into the world ill prepared for the reality.
ZombieL ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:08:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being sexually liberated is. Teach kids to be safe and wary about emotional attachments, but other than that let them explore. Stop treating sexual purity as something important. It's not. Sex is fun and healthy as long as you do it responsibly, which does not mean restricting the quantity of your sexual partners.
If you treat teens like shit and act like they know nothing. They will become the bane of your existence. So treat them like you would treat any other adult and you might find their more agreeable.
You talk to them like they are people and explain stuff to them. That's it. You treat them with respect instead of being a condescending asshole that pretends to know everything (while explaining nothing) just because you happen to be older.
JEesSs ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:30:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God I hate that attitude. And yeah you're very correct about this.
Are you a parent or are you a teenager/young adult?
All that shit's easy to say on paper but I know for a fact when I was a teenager (I'm not a parent either) I thought I was the shit regardless of what my parents said.
When I was a teenager I also thought I was the shit but my parents most of the time didn't make sense, didn't know how to express themselves and tried to use their "parent authority" all the time instead of explaining why I shouldn't do something.
It wasn't only my parents but teachers did the same shit.
Now that I'm older, I realize they were wrong.
most_low ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:58:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They'll make up their own minds obviously, but most teenage girls really don't want to get pregnant or get an STD. If you buy them BC pills, they'll take them. If you buy them condoms, they probably won't use them every time but they might use them most of the time with new partners.
Eh, not really. Let me apologize for over-reacting. I have just been having problems with teens that cannot be solved with condoms and pills.
most_low ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's quite alright. I myself have made some vitriolic comments on Reddit that I am ashamed of. I would never say "fuck you" to someone in real life just for espousing what I consider to be an ignorant opinion, but I occasionally feel an urge to do so online, and it's a tendency that I've only really recently become aware of.
Teen pregnancy is pretty much the only problem that can be solved with condoms and pills, as far as I know. Do you want to share the kinds of problems you've been having? I don't have any children myself but my Little Brother just turned 13 and I could use some insight or at least warning about what kinds of issues to expect.
I would never say "fuck you" to someone in real life just for espousing what I consider to be an ignorant opinion
Huh. If that is true, you must be a better person than me.
Teen pregnancy is pretty much the only problem that can be solved with condoms and pills, as far as I know.
I believe some people were also trying to solve STDs that way.
Do you want to share the kinds of problems you've been having?
Bog-standard ones. Girl has trouble with her mother and trouble with her boyfriend.
my Little Brother just turned 13
I am told (I have no sons of my own) that teen boys are far less troublesome.
most_low ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:43:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure that I've ever actually said "fuck you" to someone out of anger. I did call my gf at the time a bitch when she gave me wrong directions. I feel pretty bad about that. I guess I've probably cursed at someone when I was drunk at some point.
most_low ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:52:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, okay.
DrKultra ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 16:01:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trying to convince a teenager to do the common sense thing? you got something else coming your way man if you think that works. Teenagers are like 4 year olds who can speak and have access to a car and alcohol.
most_low ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:07:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never met a teenage girl that wouldn't take a pill that prevents pregnancy and reduces acne.
DrKultra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:18:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya know, I cant argue with that logic >_> its a triple doozie if she has particularly painful periods, sience it removes those too.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:07:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trying to convince a teenager to do the common sense thing? you got something else coming your way man if you think that works.
So it's better to at least try to teach them about protection instead of abstinence-only.
DrKultra ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:18:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh of course. But you can never trust them to actually do it, because its very easy for them to forget in the heat of the moment. Teaching is always good, but you are just giving yourself mental peace.
In our society, especially if you're a father, there's a strong sentiment that girls are different than sons, and that baby or not any penis is a threat and a curse. I think that's what the OP was getting at here buddy
most_low ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes I'm aware of what he was getting at. I was suggesting an alternative that I think has better outcomes for everyone involved.
most_low ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes I'm aware of what he was getting at. I was suggesting an alternative that I think has better outcomes for everyone involved.
I'm with you on that, and I can't speak for everyone but I can tell you that the thought of a diverse array of penises flying at my daughter is troubling in and of itself
most_low ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:22:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any human body parts flying at anyone is troubling.
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most_low ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think she'll be alright.
smityson ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:55:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol I don't think most parents are fine with their teenaged daughter having rampant sex as long as they use condoms
Just because you make sex safe for your teenager, doesn't mean they're going to have rampant sex.
smityson ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm saying parents don't just give their kids tips to make safe sex then just shrug and say, however much sex is fine with me. if you think that's what good parents do, then you are likely a teenager
I'm saying parents should just their kids tips to make safe sex. then just shrug and say, however much sex is fine with me. then explain how even though they may not want her having sex at all they are not naive and trust her to make good choices.
FTFY.
agxryt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:13:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
since when did condoms and birth control cause rampant sex? That's some 1900s religious ideology right there
most_low ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:08:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't really matter what the parents are fine with since their daughters will do what they want either way.
smityson ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:39:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol what? parents choices are one of the biggest factors that affect kids choices
most_low ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:53:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the other biggest factors is what the kids feel like doing.
smityson ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:12:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
which has a ton to do with parenting
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V4refugee ยท 170 points ยท Posted at 15:22:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Better than being a cool hip grandfather raising his teen daughter's kids.
Or the cool hip dad whose daughter knows how to respect herself and not get pregnant, and if she does, she knows abortion is available if she can't raise it on her own.
Ranzok ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:53:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No clearly teenagers are balls of hormones. They cannot be reasoned with and teaching them to value themselves and others is all for naught
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 16:01:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Teenagers aren't the brightest people in the world and yes, they are massively influenced by hormones. To top it all off, most of them think they have everything figured out and have no need of the advice and suggestions of older people.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:25:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's easy to swim back to shore when the tide is coming in, but much harder when the tide is going out.
The right thing to do when you're being sucked out into the ocean is to swim parallel to the shore when the wave is going out, and then swim towards the shore when it's going in. If you try to fight it the entire way, you'll be more likely to wear yourself out completely and fail.
Teenagers are reasonable enough in some circumstances, but in the heat of the moment you can't expect their reason to work well. They'll come up with dozens of rationalizations for irrational behavior, if the rational behavior is opposed to what their irrational brain wants.
Teach your kids how to be responsible with their urges instead of trying to suppress them entirely. Suppression can simply be overwhelmed (especially if alcohol is involved), but channeling in a positive direction can handle much larger impulses.
dorekk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:24:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You generally can't stop teens from fucking. They're gonna fuck. Think about it--when you were a teenager, did you fuck?
But if you just tell them safe sex exists, they can fuck safely. Put your kid on the pill, tell your kid about condoms. There's no downside to that. At all.
Ranzok ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:14:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom just told me not to lose my virginity in the back of a car. Sure enough that's where my first gf wanted to do it after a party and I convinced her that we should go back to her place. I listened to my mom!
Getting an abortion at a young age has been shown to have serious effects on the psyche. I would not feel cool nor hip if my daughter had to get an abortion. I'd feel like a failure.
JEesSs ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:59:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah if you're being told by others what a horrible human being you are for it, sure.
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L3tum ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because you can't give it away.
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L3tum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:32:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah,but if I could decide on whether abortion,keeping or giving away,I would choose giving away. I'm pro life,so sorry for that,you can down vote me as much as you want. I don't blame people who had abortions,but I'd never do it myself if it wouldn't be for a medical sort of thing(for example having some disease).
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a son, I had an abortion when I was very young. The only hard part about it was how terrible everyone was telling me I was.
My son is 60000x harder to deal with, costs a lot of money and has been the catalyst to a lot of arguments with my husband.
Are you a young woman who's had an abortion? If not, I'd like to see a study to back that up NOT from allbabiesdeservetobebornnomatterwhatbutafterthatfuckemmmshouldnthavehadkids.com
carlson71 ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 16:55:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
We had a girl get one at 16 in my class. She didn't handle it good, and from what I hear 11 years later she's still not really over it. She said she seen either the parts or part of the baby and I guess for years after she had night terrors. She went from being super popular and sleeping with basically everyone, to no make up and just sitting in a corner, by graduation she has become the depressed girl that didn't talk to many people and didn't want you talking to her at all specially if you were a boy.
Down votes don't bring her aborted baby back and don't make her any less fucked in the brain from it. So you guys know.
JEesSs ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:01:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure there's another element to this though than just the abortion, such as the social context. If you are being exposed to anti-abortion propaganda, or hated by others because you had one, its not that strange to become depressed after having one.
O I'm not saying it's not caused by more then just abortion. But getting the abortion is when she started going into a depressed state. Down vote and disagree all people want it's how it was. She went into a bad depression. Where I'm from abortions aren't common but not seen as evil it's a liberal state, am I saying she didn't get bad shit said no. She probably had terrible things said to her for being 16 and getting one. All I was saying was she got an abortion at 16 and it messed with her (it being everything involving it from the abortion to the aftermath.)
Not trying to sound like a dick or trying to argue. I just write words sometimes people hate them sometimes not, all the time I don't think about the consequences of it.
JEesSs ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:15:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you are getting downvoted because it really does seem as though you're saying 'abortions are bad because look what happened to this girl I knew'. But if that's not it then good.
Nope, I fell as tho its the woman who decides. Not my circus not my monkies. I was just saying how I have seen how a young girl got tore apart inside by one more or less. I was sure it would go unnoticed or piss someone off. I'm not great with words, I build shit.
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carlson71 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Eh idk if it really cured the whore. She just became really sad and depressed. Like really depressed, she was a very attractive girl who made sure she dressed to the nines every time she knew she would be seen, after she just stopped caring.
That's what every dad strives for, being cool and hip enough to agree with abortions. Anything less means they're lame and old fashioned.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 15:50:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
That's what every dad strives for, being cool and hip enough to agree with abortions
so if you dont agree with killing a foetus youre not cool and hip?
e : so apparently asking a question that somewhat implies that I express an unpopular opinion(which i dont even hold) doesnt ass to the conversation and is being downvoted because of that?
So anyways guys.... who else thinks its cool that sea otters hold hands when they sleep so they donโt drift away from each other?
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:06:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:36:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While I agree that what you're saying is an ideal scenario, I've seen far too many cases in which it just ends up being "daughter goes out and parties every weekend while Grandpa watches the kid." Happens all the time.
Being irresponsible and having a kid you can't properly raise doesn't magically make you become responsible. Your irresponsible habits don't go away, and now instead of fucking up just your life, they fuck up a child's life as well.
I realize this is all anecdotal but it seriously pisses me off.
JEesSs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:08:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if she'd had an abortion grandpa wouldn't have to do that. Besides, those kinds of behaviours tend to have more underlying them, such as low SES, lack of education/knowledge, and likely other family and mental health problems.
I grew up in a society where sex ed is taught really well. You'd struggle to find people who are anti-abortion, and young people are even provided with contraceptives and STD/pregnancy tests by the school. However, everyone I grew up with didn't get a kid that their grandparents had to watch. The only ones that did were those that clearly had issues in various areas of their life.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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JEesSs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:48:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, but I'm not really sure what you are trying to say in relation to my comment?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry. Got a little rant-y. I agreed that people raising kids in this kind of fucked up environment do have underlying issues. I disputed your assessment that you didn't see these situations in your life because you grew up with "proper" sex ed.
JEesSs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:58:51 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never said I didn't see them, I said that I have observed them, but only in very specific social contexts. You seemed to imply in your original comment that your observation was a common one, despite good sex ed or ability to abort. This I disagreed with.
Wait, why do they have to be calling their daughters sluts? I don't agree with abortion, I think it's murder, but I don't call someone who had it a slut. I think they're irresponsible and selfish, but I feel like you aren't representing a different opinion fairly.
That is exactly how it works, yes. Unless you also disagree with
- Vaccines
- Antibiotics
- Cooking food
- Living in houses
- Shitting in toilets
- Clothes
then you are perfectly happy to conquer nature. Hypocrite.
Woah there sport, where did I say I disagreed with medicine? My point is to use caution and not to just rely on medicine aa a crutch instead of making smart choices.
We're talking about teenagers. People here are saying "just hand em a condom and give them a talk on safe sex and then you have nothing to worry about"
Hahahaha, sure. :)
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, that is kind of the point of medicine. We created a pill that reduces the possibility of unwanted pregnancies by 99%. Now you can have sex without being worried about having a baby. Welcome to the 21st century.
That would be all well and good if unwanted pregnancy was the only consequence of uninhibited sex. Welcome to the conversation.
Is it wrong for a father to want to do his best to protect his daughter from all the negative consequences, the obvious ones and not, from casual hormone fueled teenage sex?
Your idealistic world view is so cute, I could just squeeze your cheeks.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Condoms prevent the spread of STDs very effectively.
Nobody's saying that's all there is to it. Like, show me one person in this entire thread saying "you don't have to talk to your kids, just give them birth control".
I fail to see your point. Are you saying you shouldn't teach safe sex and instead try to monitor and control your kid's sex life? Because I think the latter would more likely be the method that results in teenage rebellion.
Gian_Doe ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:01:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If only there was a backup plan...
Oh wait, it's the year 2016 not 1916, there are multiple backup plan options if that doesn't work - nevermind!
They had a basket of condoms in class. Didnt help. You gotta teach kids to not only have safe sex but to just not do stupid shit in general.
JEesSs ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:21:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, regardless of your type example, it has been shown that sex ed is associated with lower rates of teen pregnancy and STD anyway. So, yeah, it seems as though most teens do actually listen.
I guarantee acting like that and treating your daughter like her virginity is some prize under lock and key and she's shitty if she loses it, will just make your daughter want to fuck people more.
You're just silly if you think that kids won't find a way. I wasn't allowed to leave the house for two months before I finally got kicked out at 16....guess what, I had sex during those two months.
Ignoring it and just saying no no no IS gonna make you the cool hip grandfather.... My sister had her first baby at 16.
I guarantee acting like that and treating your daughter like her virginity is some prize under lock and key and she's shitty if she loses it, will just make your daughter want to fuck people more.
Can confirm. My parents shamed me and treated me with no respect and acted like I couldn't do anything right. Just made me rebel harder and do things I normally wouldn't have because I wanted to piss them off.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hate to be the one to break this to you, since your attitude makes me think you're a teenager, but teenagers are damn sure too stupid to make important life decisions, like whether or not to have a kid. And that isn't even what it's about. Caring if your kid goes and ruins their life by getting knocked up as a teenager is good parenting. Letting your dumbass teenager do whatever dumbass teenager shit they want is bad parenting.
I think the issue here isn't so much about your child having rando sex like some run of the mill prostitute. I think it has to do with upbringing and promoting a positive environment. Teaching your child that doing well in school to get into a better college to get a better job will lead to less promiscuous sex because it may lead to a better crowd that they hang out with. That way they may choose to have stable relationships with friends and SOs. I'm a firm believer of personal opinion and science over popularity.
F0sh ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:06:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because apparently condoms don't exist? You don't have to "worry about everyone's dick" with regards to pregnancy if your daughter knows how to have sex without getting pregnant.
Teaching about safe sex doesn't mean pregnancy won't happen. People tend to do rash and foolish things, especially teenage raging balls of hormones.
F0sh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:33 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think teaching safe sex prevents teenage pregnancy a lot more reliably than being that weird father who tries to prevent his daughter from having sex by intimidating her/her boyfriends. Since you can then, you know, still relieve those raging hormones.
You're being disingenuous. Obviously teaching your kids about sex and being positive doesn't mean letting them run wild and do whatever they want. Yes, teenagers are stupid and don't always make the right choices, but you still do your best as a parent and try to educate them. Giving them education has a much better chance of preventing teenage pregnancy than shaming them does.
Saying shit like "You only have to worry about one penis when you have a son, but you have to worry about every penis when you have a daughter!" is shaming and creepy.
L3tum ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:26:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't call every teenager too stupid,because that's exactly what makes them stupid. They think "Fuck it, I can't decide anything anyways so why should I care?!"
dorekk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:30:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It really sounds like you're also too stupid to make any life decisions for them.
My father was in NO WAY going to raise another kid when I was almost 18 because I got some woman knocked up. Especially because I grew up in bum-fuck Tennessee where becoming a young mother was one of the better economic outcomes for the area.
Get your head out of your ass and stop being blinded by your own twisted views on genders. You're just as bad as the people you think you're fighting.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:27:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You got it chief. They can live in their parents house and be unemployed for the rest of their life or work at the local dollar store that we just got a couple years ago instead of hitching a ride on some college boy that will be able to give them a half way decent life in 4-5 years. You have NO IDEA what you're talking about and have probably never been out of whatever big town you live in. (EDIT: Watch this to get an idea of where I grew up at)
Yes, high degrees of "protection" and "shame" are generally reserved for women, but that's not what you said. You tried to turn it into a sexist war when every child regardless of gender, unless you're a shitty parent, will have that pressure to not fuck up 3(+) lives.
ALSOEDIT: Not EVERY young woman was like that. Yes, a % of the graduating class went to colleges. I'm not talking about them.
most guys just wanna bang your daughter and nothing else. As a father you should be helping her find someone that will make her happy long term not short term gratification.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:38:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:01:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your 14 year old wanted to hook up with random dudes it's unprogressive to not like that? I mean, you don't own her but she lives in your house and eats your food.
"No susie, stop sleeping with 6 dudes a week in the room I used to change you in." Is probably misogynistic.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:09:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:13:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not an actual father, just preparing. So you don't attempt to alter your children's behavior in any way?
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's natural to want to do many things, I as a parent do not have to condone them. Of course I'll do everything in my power to make sure my kids understand safe sex, I'm not an idiot. But they;re still children. And I know I'm probably "behind the times" but I don't think sex is some meaningless and fickle thing.
dorekk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:33:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck is it with people on this site having to pretend like its one extreme or the other to make their point?
I can't find any figures in my 10 seconds of googling but I'm going to put casual sex very firmly in the "SOME PEOPLE" category. Not the "that's what people do" category. And yes, people are more than entitled to make a big deal out of it if it's important to them.
On the mind and body of a teenager, it could have major issues. Not just Pregnancy and STDs, but body image, self worth, and other psychological issues as well.
violue ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With one of those t-shirts that says "Guns don't kill people, fathers with pretty daughters kill people".
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:24:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't have to take care of his teenage daughters kid. Sounds cool as shit to me.
kyru ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 15:34:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TheThng ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:03:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wanting your daughter to make good choices and not become pregnant at an early age, thus severely reducing her chances in life is misogynistic, didnt you know?
I suppose so.... I thought giving extra special attention and care towards your daughter would be considered a loving thing but I suppose it makes one a woman hater.
TheThng ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:12:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well, i mean, it IS 2016. We have to be totes progressive now.
DrenDran ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This comment chain is disgusting and an example of why women are being pushed out of gaming.
/s
TheThng ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This comment chain is disgusting and an example of why women are being pushed out of gamingsociety
"Tell your teenagers not to do something, and they won't do it"
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
MyManD ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:13:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-Looks down at own dick-
Everyone's
Zenie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder is saying president Obama's daughters and dick in the same sentence online is some sort of trigger and now I'm on a list somewhere in the NSA. Dammit...
That's a valid point, but whenever this is quoted, it's almost never in the context of talking about sexual assault. Most of the comments here just seem to be expressing terror at the idea of having a sexually active daughter.
Melmab ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe he will have that particular worry on his mind - Secret Service will be guarding his daughters for the rest of their lives. I'm sure he (or worse, Michelle Obama) will get daily / nightly reports on their activities.
Melmab ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:40:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it should. However with a caveat, the former Presidents cannot charge the Service an undue amount for housing (in order to have agents nearby 24/7).
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nonsense. A vagina can only get pregnant so many times in those teen years.
On the other hand, your son's wayward penis can cause a near-infinite amount of baby-trouble.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:09:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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most_low ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:17:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't like the trope of the overprotective father who asks his daughter's dates what "their intentions" are. Trying to pretend that your daughter doesn't want to have sex is how you end up with a pregnant teenage daughter. Just get her some birth control for Christ's sake. Then you hardly have to worry about the fact that she's a giant slut, like every other teenage girl and boy.
Father-Daughter discussions on reddit typically go like this:
Topic is introduced somehow
Someone says the saying with the worrying and the penises or someone mentions the boyfriend coming home to the father cleaning his gun
People take it at face value
Somone says your comment almost verbatim
I agree with everything you said, it's just I've seen it so many times its like a circle-jerk.
most_low ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People take it at face value
That's because there really are men who think that's the appropriate way to raise their daughter. I have a friend who is proud of the fact that he's going to be an overprotective father. He sees that as his responsibility.
Highly trained professional cock-blockers, with permission to use deadly force.... now I actually feel bad for their boyfriends.
cinch123 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:49:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have 5 sons and no daughters. My wife actually says "but I only have 5 dicks to worry about instead of all of them" to her friends who feel she was somehow deprived of something by not having any girls.
iCupid ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:09:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This comment killed me, and I am in a Library ffs.
It's crazy how they have literally grown up in front of our eyes. Sasha was carried by her dad in 2008 and now she's a sassy teen. Malia is about to go off to college. The only Obama who looks pretty much the same is Michelle.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At this rate, he'll be 75 by the time he's 60.
thumpas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At this rate, by tuesday it will be thursday, by wednesday it will be august, and by thursday it will be the end of existance as we know it!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure it's not because of the nanomachines?
i'm not saying you're wrong, just wondering what makes you think that?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:50:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We certainly are not the first county to have our leader caught in an adultery scandal. Maybe the first to have the first lady of the leader caught in an adultery scandal have a good shot at becoming the President.
Okay how the fuck are these made? Some wizardry in Photoshop?
dangeron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Umm I use a shitty video editing software and edit the pan/color frame by frame. Not sure how others have done it, and that's why mine are a little wonky.
I watched number 3 for a minute straight trying to figure out if the red tint was coming from a single frame picture of Satan stuck into that gif. I don't know what I was thinking, no Satan necessary to achieve that effect...
Honestly you should do that though, just resize and stick this in there as a single frame...
dangeron ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:02:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While I agree somewhat with your sentiment, Trump, Cruz, and Carson are much scarier.
Feel the Bern.
turd_boy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even think Hillary would do bad, would be a lot like Bill and/or Obama, she's a democrat, she would listen to the exact same corporate assholes as Bill and Obama and make the exact same policy decisions.
What's the difference honestly? Serious question.
Also I agree, feel the Bern indeed.
__kb__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hillarious
sean151 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone submitted this to PS battles yet? If not that needs to happen.
I was kind of lying about leaving anyway. I've got tons of things to do though, but Reddit won't let me do them. My boss calls Reddit "the invisible prison".
One is a studio publicity shot, with plenty of make up and a quick run through auto-balancing in a photo application.
The other is a 'candid' snap while out in the public, taken by someone who has no desire/requirement to make the person look good.
Not saying 8 years as a president doesn't take its toll. But those photos are not great examples. Plus I don't think the 2000 was taken in 2000, looks too young.
Timmmmel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:33:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you always look for the most flattering and posed picture on one side, and a snapshot on a bad day for the other, you'll find "comparisons" like these for a lot of people in much less than 8 years
And one picture is fresh out of campaign season all dolled up and chipper while the last is the, "throw on a t-shirt and jeans and head out because who cares now?"
Most leaders absolutely dye their hair. Obama claims he's one of the few who did not.
Nimitz87 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:06:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
t-shirt and jeans? he's in a full suit int he 2nd shot.
Obama played 186 rounds of golf during his presidency through Aug. 12, according to Yahoo! News. That number that has gone up a bit since then due to additional rounds on Marthaโs Vineyard.
Bush played many fewer rounds as president -- 24
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:19:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Well its not like Michael Moore is known for his impartiality. He is know for cutting context and editing footage to fit his narrative.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:28:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he is not guiltier than other people when it comes to that, its just that he presents it as unbiased and objective info thats disshonest and should call into question any other allegations he makes.
I mean there is levels and he definitely is in the worst category. Like that famous scene where he opens a bank account and gets a rifle right then and there.
What actually happened was he opened an account which gave him a discount on the rifle, he payed for the rifle, went through the background check, and came back for it a week later. Then passed it off as he got it right then and there as a free gift for opening an account. At best that's lying by omission.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I totally agree with you, I think whats worse is that the same offenses being commited by someone who Michael Moore supports are A-OK. Being from Sweden however I can tell you there are several categories below Michael Moore to which you can stoop when it comes to presenting information. One of the major news stories right now around here is actually how the Police, NGOยดs like Amnesty International and national-media have been actively working together to surpress information that they thought would affect public oppinion, involving cases of rape, vandalism and sexual harassment of mostly underaged girls. One of the plots even involved a patroling officers report being disqualified as it didnt fit the narrative.
I'd say that's a hell of alot worse then what Michael Moore does. No one actually believe anything that comes out of that fat fucks mouth unless they they are a freshman in college.
Well I hope people keep on their ass till its all out in the open.
Zipo29 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:50:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well some people like facts others don't.
Before people read way to much into that comment it applies people on all sides.
I love the fact that someone did the analysis on how many rounds of golf presidents play. Not how much time they spent, but individual rounds. I wonder if they have the scores and handicaps.
I think abolish_karma is using golf as a sort of shorthand to refer to the amount of vacation time taken.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:30:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama took a shit ton of vacation time too. It's like having the most stressful job on Earth makes a guy want to get away for a weekend. Who woulda thunk?
Cautemoc ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:30:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From the same article:
On Aug. 8, 2014, Knoller tweeted that Obama had taken 19 vacations totaling 125 days so far while in office. Those numbers have risen a bit due to the Marthaโs Vineyard vacation, but thatโs still many fewer than George W. Bushโs 65 combined trips to his Texas ranch and his parentsโ home in Kennebunkport, Maine, which totaled 407 days at the same point in his presidency.
Sorry, but Bush was still one hell of an irresponsible president by comparison. Also, the most rounds played was by Ex-president Wilson, with over 1,000 rounds, to get some perspective.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:53:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, but Bush was still one hell of an irresponsible president by comparison.
Working from his Texas ranch does not make him "irresponsible". It doesn't matter where the president works, they bring all the necessary equipment with him. There's no such thing as a presidential vacation.
Cautemoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:17:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Problem is, I'm sure he was not equally effective working from his ranch, calling into meetings and talking to advisors on the phone. No leadership positions get to call in 30% of the time. It's not effective communication.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure it is. It's not like a major piece of legislation is being passed every day. The advisors come to you.
Cautemoc ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jeeze. I guess you haven't had a job that requires meetings. Pro tip: the leaders don't call in to them. The VP never calls into an advisory meeting so he can work from home.
Uh...this happens all the time. Outside of the important meetings, bosses can call in or get the notes from the meeting, and they work from home where they aren't bothered with the little things.
Cautemoc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:22:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really want to know what sector you guys work in where managers and executives are calling-in to advisory meetings. Apparently I'm working in the wrong area. Also, I've never in my life heard someone try to justify working from home to avoid being bothered by little things.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Newsflash, dude: your job isn't anything like being president.
Cautemoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't talking about being President specifically there, follow the thread. I'm realizing I'm too deep because everyone that is responding barely makes any sense.
Many of the Texas trips were "working vacations" at his ranch near Waco. Just because he wasn't in Washington doesn't mean he wasn't doing shit. Same for the current administration.
The same could probably be said for Obama going to Hawaii or Chicago. Really, though, all of the gripes about presidential vacations are, I think, misplaced at best.
Does any reasonable person really believe that these are true vacations? I find it unlikely that during these times they aren't either in meetings, on phone calls, talking to advisors, or reflecting on their policy objectives and how to implement them.
And even if a small part of them are real vacations, I'd rather have a president able to take the time when they can do destress if needed to have clearer minds when making big decisions.
Cautemoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:01:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I'm sure he was equally effective working from his ranch, calling into meetings and talking to advisors on the phone. Why even have an Oval Office?
I forgot the president stops working when he goes on vacation. What a petty talking point.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:41:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost like vacation relieves stress or something. Weird, I know.
Cautemoc ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 16:43:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It's the job of the Commander In Chief (President) to be the leader of the armed forces. You don't get to take more vacation time because your title's role is needed, you take less.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't get to take more vacation time because your title's role is needed, you take less.
What kind of idiot do you have to be to think that the president gets vacation? They work every single day, no matter where in the world they are.
Cautemoc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:31:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of idiot do you have to be to think any leader is as effective working from home as from his office? You think calling into meetings and talking to advisors on the phone is going to be efficient?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You might want to reconsider that statement, since the White House is a home. The president is wired up to work from anywhere in the world, it's required in the event of war.
Stop being such a douchebag liberal and think with your head. You don't need to blatantly mislead people in order to score points against a president that is no longer in office.
Cautemoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha.... It's set up as a living quarters, sure, but that is where the executive offices are. Calling into a meeting is not the same as sitting at a table with them, never has been, and the future where it is isn't here yet.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck are you talking about?
We have video chat now. Calling in to a meeting isn't the same? As in, you are not physically there where you can sneeze on them?
You should tell all of this to Google. The entire company of Google. Almost every major business meeting encompasses video chat between various employees. The USA is a fucking gigantic Country - why would you have to sit in the White House to conduct a meeting? That makes no sense at all. Anything you can do in Washington D.C you can do in Oregon. In Googles case, you don't have to be sitting in a board room meeting inside the same room in the main campus over in Mountain View. You can be in one of their many other offices scattered throughout the entire world, or even at home (working from home is an option for every Google position in the entire company about 40% of the time).
The future where we can have effective meetings and discussions without sitting in an office together, physically, isn't here yet?
You are dumb.
Source: I used to work for Google.
Cautemoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google's chief financial officer Patrick Pichette said when the company is asked how many people telecommute, their answer is "as few as possible". source 1, source 2
Now I understand why you 'used' to work for Google. You don't even understand the intention of the CFO.
Source: Citing links and not talking out my ass
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Googlers telecommute all the time lol and even when they don't, the majority of their meetings are still done over Google Hangouts
You're citing an article that takes a single quote from the CFO (who doesn't manage Google's employees in any direct form). I'm telling you flat out that they do this all the time, I worked for Google for three years.
"That said, officially, many Googlers are allowed and even encouraged to work at home. The company told me when asked about work-from-home policies: โWe do not have a formal policy and leave Googlers to use good judgment.โ"
You're digging a bigger and bigger hole. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about and should just knock it off now. You will only look more and more stupid.
Cautemoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Sorry if I don't take your word on it, when there is no data to support you and all public statements by company executives indicate the opposite.
Edit: And you haven't even said what department you are referring to. For all I know, you might have worked in International HR. Your assurances mean next to nothing on the internet, especially with a name like yours.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:15:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except the full quote, which I just sourced in my reply?
Dude, seriously. Just shut the fuck up. Jesus.
Cautemoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, way to quote a fucking blog called allthingsd with a lolcat in it. That's not the quote from the CFO, that's a clarifying sentence from the reporter who's source is "the company told me". How did "the company" tell her this? Through what channel? You claim I'm digging a hole, yet you look more and more like a prick with every half-assed claim you're making. If Google employees are like you, putting "lol" in your sentences and naming yourself after beastiality, I'm beginning to see how they thought trying out social media would be a good endeavor.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:46:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes because the president can just push a big red button and everything will be solved! You fucking retard. A president who is stressed out 24/7 will surely make all the best decisions! He should give up sleeping while he's at it! A president who is sleeping is a lazy bum. You can't fix the world while you're resting!
Cautemoc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:49:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I thought a button would solve it, he could spend all the time he wanted on vacation. Stop making nonsense arguments. I'm not saying he could spend no time on vacation, I'm saying he shouldn't have spent an entire 1/3 of it on vacation. Bush defenders are incredible.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:53:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bush attackers are fucking idiots. You're the one making nonsense arguments. You seem a little uneducated about what the president can do. Whether he's in the white house or at the ranch, there's only so much change he can implement. The amount of vacation time the president has is not directly correlated to how much he accomplished. It's such a stupid and fallacious argument to make. Bush sure as shit did more than Obama with 30% less time in the office.
Cautemoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:58:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, sure bud.
You're the one making nonsense arguments.
Bush sure as shit did more than Obama with 30% less time in the office.
Sorry friend but our economy says otherwise. Bush presidency was not a good net result for the states but Obama presidency was one of economic recovery.
Bush is highly criticized for his vacation because most of his decisions when it came to the war were in fact bad ones and were not guided by any forethought. You can argue otherwise but that the way it is. If his decisions were good then his vacation time could be seen as worthwhile but we got into wars that did nothing but destabilize the middle east further and we are reaping what we had sown from his presidency and those that preceded him with these new much more capable terrorist organizations.
...could the public get mandatory paid vacations too then? Everyone has stresses.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:49:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your job doesn't deal directly with the livelihood of everyone in the country. So no. Flipping burgers at McDonalds is a little different than dealing with 9/11. How you thought that was a good argument is beyond me.
...everyone's life deals directly with someone's life.
Father dies from a heart attack at 50, kids drop outta highschool/college.
The father that has a heart attack doesn't have a staff that caters to his every need. Staff that reads the legislation, staff to cook, and protect him.
I wasn't trying to compair the two, but standing up for just his vacations but not everyone elses seems a bit off, no?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it doesn't seem a bit off. Dealing with a fathers heart attack is way different than dealing directly with the livelihood of millions of starving and homeless people. Or with people who can't afford health care. Or terrorism.
pkdrdoom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"On Aug. 8, 2014, Knoller tweeted that Obama had taken 19 vacations totaling 125 days so far while in office. Those numbers have risen a bit due to the Marthaโs Vineyard vacation, but thatโs still many fewer than George W. Bushโs 65 combined trips to his Texas ranch and his parentsโ home in Kennebunkport, Maine, which totaled 407 days at the same point in his presidency."
Even vacationing more doesn't help. The job still drains them.
Obama has played more gold than W did... A LOT more golf (not that I see an issue with that really).
[deleted] ยท 431 points ยท Posted at 15:37:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
would people believe they probably dye their hair while running that first term, then stop when they get in?
Nyeaustin ยท 634 points ยท Posted at 16:04:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would believe that, but you can really see the change in their faces.
AeAeR ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:58:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Their faces are a lot more wrinkled and droopy, but what gets me is the eyes on both Presidents. They both look like they've seen so much shit, that ambitious glimmer is just gone.
[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 16:53:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They also aged 8 years. That does alot when you're already old.
turd_boy ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:37:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I keep thinking, think about how you looked when you were 8 then when you were 16 then when you were 24 and so on. The amount of difference is the same just that instead of developing into an adult you deteriorate into an old person.
This doesn't work very well for me because I'm 24 and I look basically the same as when I was 16 except I weigh less. I easily pass for a high schooler still. 8 to 16 isn't a fair comparison because of puberty. But yeah for presidents it is a combo of stress and simply aging 8 years.
turd_boy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:04 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tbh I was the same way, I looked pretty much the same from the time I was 14 until I was in my mid twenties, after that I started to age a bit. But that's not the case for most people, I feel like my point still stands, 8 years is a long time to age and makes a huge difference for most people.
mtbr311 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:59:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 37... I'm not old!
emkill ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:06:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not too drastically, but these guys gained some serious wrinkles and paleness
turd_boy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes absolutely, but it's also makeup and hair dye. IN their last term they stop giving a shit about their image because they aren't running again, it really doesn't matter how healthy they look.
I completely believed that about Obama. Likely because of my age at the time, it was just the first time I'd really thought about it. So, when people mention his now gray hair, I've been "meh" about it.
This comparison is far different. He has aged, and he's tired, and it isn't about his hair.
People also need to remember that this is over 8 years of the time in most people's live when they really begin to show their age. I mean, I get that the presidency is stressful and all, but I'd like to see some comparisons with regular people between the ages of 54 and 62 (or 47 and 55 in Obama's case).
The appearance of youth suggests vibrancy, health, and energy; which helps in efforts to be elected.
Grey hair projects age, patience, and wisdom.
powercow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:54:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh for sure.. for sure.. a bit harder to hide the wrinkles.
And well.. we have the same evidence of this going back to lincoln. and that bush pict is BS. Its a pict from his website
Regardless of how "good" you are a president, the stress is immense. This is just like any other high paying job (management, engineer, scientist, welder, etc). The stress it applies to a person physically, mentally, and emotionally all are paid out in salaries. Most people can't or wouldn't want to do those jobs, so the job gets a better salary.
So, it's not just the president, but a whole lot of other people that end up looking like this.
Your point? I would argue that those who invest money into companies would be more powerful than the president since this is the free world. A consumer based economy only lasts if it has a strong middle class. Few countries have thrived on anything but capitalism, and money is a key driver to the system. If you have few people who invest money, they become critical in new technological developments that are critical for a country to be "the most powerful" which in turn makes its leader "the most powerful person"...when in reality the economy of a country dictates the power of said country not the person leading it. Sure, deploying emergency troops and what not is power, but it isn't the source.
Care to offer an alternative? I personally don't see any. I think being the commander in chief of USA's military is worth being in the top 3, at least. You might be able to argue Putin, but his nation's economy is suffering for his personal decisions, and Merkel has a lot of dissention in the ranks.
efexx1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:42:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Head of NRA? :p not even Obama can do anything about him.
But both of their countries are in the midst of very bad economic times. America is coming out of its recession as Russia and China enter new downturns.
Sure, POTUS is commander in chief, but that doesn't mean he can just point the US Military where ever he wants. He has to go through a lot of bureaucracy every time he wants to get something done. Billionaires don't, they can just spend however they like, and have enough money to convince other people to believe whatever they want.
The estate tax should be so much more severe. I know there are several on this list that acquired their wealth in one lifetime, but seeing 4 Waltons in the top 20 is sad to me. You can see the Mars family in the 20's. I can't even imagine the lives of people this rich, and they can't understand mine. I think it's a real danger for the millions of us whose lives they impact, but do not necessarily appreciate or even understand. Do you think the Waltons on this list have ever eaten the lunch meat they sell at Walmart? have they ever worn a pair of socks from their own store?
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:51:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't even imagine the lives of people this rich
This might help. But you're right, they live lives so wildly different lives than us that it is really impossible to comprehend. They might as well be living on a different planet because it is impossible to have that kind of money and understand what the world looks like for the rest of us.
Thanks for sharing that- very interesting read. I remember some documentary I watched made by one of the heirs to the Johnson & Johnson fortune called "Born Rich," but it wasn't framed like this. I kinda wonder if these people think about sharing their money. Obviously, Bill Gates has thought about it, Warren Buffet as well. It could be interesting to see what kind of a world we live in after Buffet passes, whether his charity will change anything.
rotzooi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A candidate's looks are much more important than any sensible person would like them to be, but that seems to be human nature.
I don't have the time to Google and link it, but last election there were a number of posts about this and the one I remembered best is that there is an extreme correlation (80 or even 90%) between the amount of hair on a (male) candidate's head and their chances of winning the Presidency.
buckX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1st election strategy: Young, dynamic bringer of change
2nd election strategy: Experienced, dependable font of wisdom
I would also believe that people change a lot in 8 years.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hair is the least of it..... What about their faces?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:46:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
to me the hair is the easiest thing to see change without the possibility of it being heavily photoshopped, or just happen to be looking tired, you could search the video from his latest speech and find a shot of him NOT with his eyes half shut, give the image a bit of softness and he would look way better, the first image looks like its been softened or noise reduced in post to look younger to make his older self look worse, but the hair color probably fixed IRL with dye
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:56:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That makes sense. Point.
But that's also a lot of years between the photos if it's genuine. Even if these particular frames were chosen to show how crappy that job may feel, and were compared specifically..... Hell, I feel tired if I know I have to talk to my daughter's teacher.... She started kindergarten in September.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
right so the difference in a photo between Tuesday just after you won free pizza on the radio, and a photo of you hearing or reading that you have a parent teacher interview are going to show drastically different versions of your face
neubourn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're running, you're 48 years old. You want to reach out to the youth so you dye your hair to look younger. When you get into office, people prefer a little bit of grey. They want someone established to be in charge, they no longer need a young fit candidate but a wise and comforting president.
m703324 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just in this case it's also that one is a posed studio photo with full makeup and editing. second is a snap pic in daylight. For same reason celebrities look much better on publicity pictures than paparazzi snaps. Also 8 years and hair dye
Yeah but as dictators did decades have the same till as 4 years of presidency? Or because they had total power were they less stressed over maybe a a decade than US presidents are over 4 years?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:36:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Well, I mean, the stuff isn't without its side effects...
Bush was elected President in 2000 (which might be why your 2000 photo of him looks so young), but didn't hold office until 2001. His first State of the Union was in 2002, a year into office.
donall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:32:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
2001 did the damage
zijital ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:41:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably most of the damage was from the four months from September until January.
Or maybe it was the fact that the men in D.C. don't wear boots & the women don't have big hair that did the damage.
Will do. This part of one of the reviews just sold me.
Near the end of the campaign, Ms. Pelosi takes a straw poll among the margarita-fueled reporters on the plane, who predict Al Gore will win. When that tidbit turns up in a gossip column, the other reporters stop talking to her. Mr. Bush saves her by walking up, putting a friendly arm around her shoulder and quietly offering some advice. She says that he told her: "When they see me talking to you, they're going to act like your friends again, but those people aren't your friends. They can say what they want about me, but at least I know who I am and who my friends are."
Say what you want about him but I always felt as if we could weather any storm under that guy, he just had a presence about him that everything would just work out.
zijital ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:20:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've shown the doc to people who loved & people who hated Bush, and the most common reaction was "Yes! That's exactly why I ____ him."
To me, I think that's a sign of a good doc.
I heard that Pelosi originally just started taking some video to show her friends / family what her job is like. Then people started joshing her like "Oh, the NBC Producer is making a movie... hahaha." And she was like, hell, why not. So she bought about 100 video tapes & kept rolling.
After the campaign, she quit her job & spend a year (or more) going through it all to make it into something watchable (and IMHO, it's a lot better than most of the docs I've seen on Netflix / Amazon / etc.).
I was curious to see if most of those changes had occurred within the first two years of his presidency (i.e., after 9/11). Sure enough, Dubya in 2002.
Hot_Fist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every time Lincoln is mentioned, I can't help but remember where I was standing when Pa brought the newspaper back from his three-day journey into town.
LBJ is a little less sympathetic, I think. I'm not a historian, but what I've seen in the Fog of War and read seems to suggest the Vietnam war could've been avoided. I don't think the Civil War could have, there were cracks in the American foundation that had to play out.
CrankLee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:16:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When's the next one? We seem to be building bridges over new cracks that are slowly becoming craters
I think the more interesting question is which states will take which side, or sides? The Civil War had clean boundaries in part due to the Mason-Dixon line. You had a war front before the war. If another American Civil War started, you would have more ragged lines, and cities standing isolated on the wrong side in some cases.
I'm thinking of the Las Vegas, NV; Austin, TX; and Moab, UT kind of places - little dots of blue in red seas.
I would like to see a story a scenario of a soon to be Civil War. Like what would cause it, who would be on what side, and even the split in the military would be interesting, if there even would be one.
What other countries would be involved? How many sides would there be? How would the internet be affected? How long would it last?
That is not a bad idea. I'll try it, if not just for something to do. Thanks!
machton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you do, I want to read it!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm thinking of the Las Vegas, NV; Austin, TX; and Moab, UT kind of places - little dots of blue in red seas.
Just so you know. Fort Worth, San Antonio, Houston, El Paso, Dallas, and Brownsville are are relatively liberal. They are gerrymandered, but pretty blue.
Houston's just replaced it's lesbian democrat mayor who maxed out her terms with a democrat black man. States with actual cities with people in them are pretty purple.
Birmingham, Alabama? The largest city in the state and it has less people in it than many suburbs of actual major cities. They can't dilute the rural folks' power.
I mean, I've been to Texas several times, but I didn't know any of this. Thanks for filling in some gaps for me. I never would've viewed Texas as purple.
So was my blue dot (Denver,CO). I think a part of it is gun ownership- look at these militiamen in Oregon- or the Bundy Klan. There is a notion that outside the cities, there are vast empty areas controlled by a few rednecks with guns. The rednecks with guns might be the one telling that story, but that gets missed.
I'm pretty sure the American National Identity is far to ingrained in the psyche now to really have that divide. I mean, I could be abhorrently opposed to something, say Bernie Sanders says but I wouldn't kill someone over it. I wouldn't kill Donald Trump if he got elected, cry myself to sleep every night for sure but not be pushed to violence.
Even Black Lives Matter is really pacifist at it's core. And the hardcore of the Militia movement aren't really followed very seriously and they aren't even talking about violence. Just armed civil disobedience which is hardly different than open carry marches and stuff like that.
He may not have "started" it, but he started the air strikes and combat operations that became the portion of the Vietnam War everyone remembers. The late 60's and early 70's was the time of the draft, war protests, and the greatest loss of life.
I would disagree with you there. Technically, we had military advisors in Vietnam before the Gulf of Tonkin, not combat troops. I would say that if LBJ inherited it, it was his decision to escalate it from a 'cold war' to a conventional, boots-on-the-ground, Americans-dying-by-the-hundreds war.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was already an actual war when the French were defeated. The Vietnam War was a bad idea to 2016 eyes, but we really thought communism was going to fuck up the planet as a country back then. Look at the brutality of China and the USSR on their people. Nobody could have predicted communism's life cycle of decline and failure. It turns out when people don't have much to work for, they don't work, and shit then falls apart.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Up there certainly, but man. Just in a different stratosphere. To be President of the United States when the United States is at war with itself. That's insanity. FDR and LBJ presided over huge conflicts, but at least conflicts in far-away places.
There's no right answer but I'm gonna say Lincoln had it worse. They both faced unique challenges but most of the country loved FDR. Pretty much everybody hated Lincoln until he died.
And I guess FDR fighting against the Japanese and Germans had it better than Lincoln fighting what were his own countrymen (countrymen fighting for a barbaric practice, but countrymen nevertheless). To this day, the ACW has killed more Americans than all wars since then combined.
Judging that they seceded from the nation in order to avoid ending it, I'm guessing somewhere in the region of 'Not Bloody Likely, If We Can Get Away With It'.
We don't know that for sure. Human beings are terrible but who's to say they would've kept the slaves? Maybe the North would've banded together with other nations and put a trade tariff on them and the need for slaves would've diminished.
Yeah, the world didn't care that much about slaves then. Even though international slave trading was illegal in most leading countries and slave ownership was illegal in many countries, slavery was still pretty widespread at the time.
Why are we talking about this like anything justifies slavery for any amount of time?
Besides, it's much better for civil rights that their rights were violently obtained through a deep yearning for equality rather than just being phased out because they were less "useful" (god, trying to say that out loud made me feel like I was chewing on shit).
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because there are still Americans alive who call it "The War of Northern Aggression." Disgusting.
If you haven't get and read Team of Rivals. It's a great history book about his political rivals and making them part of his cabinet. Some became his closest allies...
Lincoln. Hands down. Fighting a war where every bullet kills a man from your country has got to be harder than one where it's only every other bullet or so.
And I certainly do not mean to discredit FDR in any way by that. His term was right up there with Lincolns. But I think Lincoln had it worse.
Plus the civil war had the added political gordian of reunifying the country. It is astonishing that the nation congealed together at all after the sort of carnage that happened.
I wish Lincoln could have had the chance to be a peacetime president too :(
Obligatory "You mean the War of Northern Aggression...?"
Some of them are still fighting it down there.
csbob2010 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Well Johnson gave the rebels back all their land, they were only one execution for the entire south, all were given pardons. The ownership of land and government didn't change at all in the south, but the Federal government gained the upper hand so they couldn't do all the bullshit again. It's not really astonishing, the southerners didn't lose anything.
The South can't exactly take moral high ground on ethics. When talking about the reconstruction, the same elites that started the Civil War ended right back in power after being given pardons by Johnson. Freed blacks position didn't change, and all the white land owners were given back their land. They can be mad all they want, but the Federal government could have brought the hammer down on them and been justified. They could have executed all of them if they wanted, or just the elite/leaders. They could have given all their land away to free blacks but didn't. Their complaints come off as entitled and they got off easy.
Plus, Sherman was a big reason the North won the war, or at least didn't prolong it unnecessarily. He knew they needed to destroy the Southern infrastructure to stop resupply and support. Ending the war quickly was the objective. It can easily be argued that Sherman's campaign shortened the war and saved lives. It also allowed him to operate deep behind enemy lines without support, and had close to the same objective that Lee used in Pennsylvania.
morality is not black and white and I see no point in arguing over which side was more moral. If someone killed your family because your government supported slavery, then you would be pissed.
Let us not forget that a minority of white southerners owned slaves and a majority of white northerners and white southerners were racist.
Let us not forget that a minority of white southerners owned slaves and a majority of white northerners and white southerners were racist.
True, but the point of history is to look at the big picture and make observations. I can say slavery was immoral, and ending the Confederacy quickly was worth it for the Union and it's all it's people. I can prove that easily.
No you cant, it is a moral argument which, by definition, has no basis in fact. Additionally morality has been fluid over time. For these reasons, historians refrain from making moral judgments.
If you want to have an argument on the morality of scorched earth campaigns, we can. They are specifically banned by the Geneva conventions if they target civilian food supply or water.
That being said, I dont believe that the Union or the Confederacy were morally just by todays standards. They both committed terrible crimes, be it slavery or scorched earth campaigns.
The confederacy had the opportunity to run such a campaign in maryland during the beginning of the war, but didnt. Why didn't they?
The south certainly lost a lot during the war. Denying that is extremely disrespectful to Americans in general.
I never said Sherman was morally justified, I said it was probably worth it because it ended the war, instead of adding 300k more bodies. I will however say that slavery and the position of the South was immoral, making Shermans decision a better option than risking the South maintaining their slaves. I'm not getting into the philosophy and verbal masturbation of moral arguments and all that, just being realistic.
I agree with it being Lincoln, but FDR had the Great Depression AND WW2
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:46:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's tough but I'd go with Lincoln. FDR faced one of the greatest crises in American history AND WWII, but Lincoln had to deal with the country attempting to destroy itself.
I am not sure about that. Of course major events took place happened during his presidency, but he did not have the kind of constant 24 hour exposure a modern leader has to face.
Not really, even worse. He had to reunite both sides of the country. When one didn't want to. And he had to keep border states from succeeding, and he had to abolish slavery which most of the population north and south didn't want to do.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is also true. I think strong cases could be made for both presidents.
My favorite story is that of his beard. When he was campaigning, a girl (I think she was around 12) wrote him a letter telling him she thought his face was much too harsh, and a beard would help him out quite a bit. That's believed to be the main reason he had a beard the rest of his life.
He was apparently really fit though. When the doctors and close friends present after he was shot stripped off his clothes, they were surprised by his muscular body.
I find it interesting that he is considered people's favorite president today when he wasn't even popular during the time he lived. He almost lost the election of 1864 when it appeared the war was all but won at that point.
Lincoln may be one of the greatest beneficiaries of historical revisionism.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:16:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much purely for keeping together the union and freeing the slaves. Two thing which are extremely popular today but weren't then.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Your favorite president? You do, of course, know that we have private prisons and legal slavery due to Lincoln, right? I know they don't teach this in school, but a little bit of research will show that Lincoln does not deserve your admiration.
zykezero ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:08:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure he does man, crossing a historical figure off for the bad they've done doesn't make their accomplishments any less great.
However you are right, you can not ignore the bad because of the great they've done. It is important to keep history in context.
My problem with Lincoln, and to a greater extent, Lincoln worshipers, is that he knew he was making slavery legal. All one need do is look at the wording of the 13th Amendment; it's very, very clear what happened. It offends me that I was taught in school that Lincoln ended slavery because that is simply a blatant lie. Slavery was merely changed from a situation where you went to market to buy slaves, to one where wealthy people made bullshit laws and then convicted people of bullshit crimes in order to keep the slavery trade strong, and the billions of dollars made in America every year from prison slaves proves that the plan worked.
Wolf482 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I recommend you read the Radical and the Republican.
zykezero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with you, I am offended that as a child I was taught a lie, the myth of Lincoln, rather the myth of america.
WitnShit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:21:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We had labor prisons and fully constitutional legal slavery before Lincoln too, you dumbass. As much as Southerners make him out to be a dictatorial autocrat, he never had enough power to change that with a snap of his fingers.
I agree that he wasn't the full on ardent abolitionist he's made out to be, but to say he's not deserving of admiration after maintaining the union through civil war is naive. Few men were willing and even fewer were capable, and he was both.
Dumbass? Go fuck yourself you stupid fucking piece of shit. The entire fucking argument is that Lincoln ended fucking slavery when he did nothing of the sort, you ignorant, blithering fucking idiot.
You came out of nowhere assuming I'm a "Lincoln worshipper". Maybe he's my favorite President because he's my height. Maybe I like slavery. Maybe I like the way his fucking name rolls off my tongue. Fuck off, I said he was my favorite, that's it. There's no argument to be made.
WitnShit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:42:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Your argument was, and I quote,
"we have private prisons and legal slavery due to Lincoln"
which is false, because these existed in America for centuries before Lincoln. In fact, he fought against these unjust establishments and while he may not have achieved full abolishment of slavery, he did more than his fair share. I agree that private prison labor today is still modern slavery and that the 13th amendment allowed slavery to remain as a form of punishment and this should be fixed. It is up to us to continue the fight for full abolishment of slavery in any form whatsoever.
But to argue that Lincoln advocated for these things or was personally responsible for their existence is so willfully ignorant it's beyond comprehension. To say that the preservation of the Union against reactionary corporate forces (which is what the CSA was) whilst establishing the the de jure foundation of the human rights of Africans slaves against those who would keep them as cattle is nothing to be admired is an incredibly stupid statement to make.
If you can muster the few functioning brain cells you have to concentrate on what points are actually being made you might find such discussions less taxing on your emotions.
IsaacM42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
May I ask you what you would have rather seen happen if Lincoln had not been president?
Yeah, but Lincoln did deal with what was most assuredly the most stressful and difficult time in American history. The Civil War ravaged the States in a way that even losing the Revolution wouldn't have.
Jeptic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest, it could also have been due to the vampire and zombie battles. They take a toll
Even worse when you realize that he was President for only 4 years. That time in office took an incredible toll on him, mentally and physically. His wife was unstable (and accused of being a Southern sympathizer) and his son passed away quite suddenly when he was in office. He was very empathetic and felt the Civil War casualties on a deeply personal level. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
The more you learn about him and what he endured, how and why he did what he did, the more your admiration for him grows, and you come to really appreciate why he is considered our greatest President.
Zebidee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lincoln was a very very weird looking dude.
I've never seen anyone in real life that even came close to what he looks like.
I would think that just living in the early-mid 1800s would age the hell out of a person. The life expectancy during this time would have been around 35-40. Lincoln was already beating the odds.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think his face looked a little different by the end of his presidency.
This reminds me of a video I saw in the early 2000's. It was a colorized photo (I think it was the same photo as the before picture you posted) of Lincoln with Republican printed under it and a picture of Robert Byrd with Democrat written under it. The interviewers then proceeded to walk the streets asking people if they knew the Republican, if they knew the Democrat, and if they had to vote for one or the other who would it be. The sad part is not a lot of people recognized Lincoln without the beard and hat we all have a mental image of. Most (almost all) of the people who didn't know who either person was chose Robert Byrd. So instead of picking the Great Emancipator they picked a former Exalted Cyclops of the KKK based on political affiliation alone. The whole thing was incredibly cringe worthy.
Can we talk about how, in every picture I've ever seen, Lincoln doesn't look like a real person? I can't imagine running into someone with that facial structure like EVER. He looks like he's sculpted out of clay.
True FDR was still getting pussy despite having polio and being stuck in a wheelchair. Hell even his girl liked girls, so he was winning to the day he died.
That's Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He was the POTUS for 3 complete terms in a row, and died shortly into his 4th. POTUS from 1933 to 1945.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:20:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, or FDR, President between 1933 and 1945, helped us out of the Great Depression and through WWII. One of our greats but is sometimes demonized because of his progressive economic policies. He created Social Security.
So much truth. Even his cousin, alice the daughter of teddy Roosevelt famously said she would vote for Hitler in 1941 than vote for him to get a third term.
One of our greats but is sometimes demonized because of his progressive economic policies.
A little misleading, as he's only demonized by modern day fascists like the hard right of Fox News. In fact, there was even a fascist coup attempt on FDR by a bunch of oligarchs, Prescott Bush (H.W. and G.W.'s) ancestor amongst the conspirators! Google "Smedley Butler" - he's the guy who blew the whistle on the coup.
Just to add what people are saying about Roosevelt. They changed the laws after he was president (can only be president for 2 terms). He is the only president who ever served more than 2 terms. That's probably why OP posted the picture, lol.
doesnt matter if you're not american, you should still know who it is. there's something wrong with you.
Jerlko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean I'm not American and I know who FDR is, but I wouldn't be able to recognize him. I can talk about WWII and the Great Depression, but unless I see his wheelchair the only thing I can rule out is that he's not from the past 20 years, on any money, Lincoln, or Taft.
FDR literally worked himself to death, He had developed very bad heart disease in the last years of his presidency and there were a few incidents in the year before his fatal aneurysm where he partially or totally lost consciousness in public. His doctors told him to take it easy but he refused to.
Well yeah, but i'm talking next level shit right here. Debates/arguing became a fucking olympic sport. Not saying its indicative of all jewish girls, but that was certainly the case with my ex.
Hey man, different strokes for different folks. Im just not a huge fan of matzo, its super bland and has an odd texture. But at least we can agree that gefilte fish is gnarly, amirite?
Damn. In here i was trying to get me a jewish gal... luckily i hear israeli girls are different and even more aggressive so time to had to the promised land instead of New york.
Double confirm; Mom's 92, Jewish and will still kick your arse if you cross her wrong. She says the real secret is her nightly dry martini (with 3 olives; for the vitamins).
DrSuviel ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:20:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not Jewish, like to argue for leisure. I want a Jewish girlfriend.
jestax ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:23:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Funny enough I just made a connection. My great grandparents were Jewish but had converted. That side of the family along with myself are very argumentative. Not in a mean way, just everything is a friendly debate.
Other people get incredibly frustrated when they come to family events.
Not sure if its related at all but that side of the family also enjoys all talking at the same time. 6 people at a table, 3 distinct conversations across different people. It's funny because I never knew it was weird until my wife says how it can be frustrating as well.
I just made this connection too! I've always enjoyed what I consider friendly/academic debates. But some people see them as contentious arguments and get all upset.
jab296 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jews don't daydream, because folks are after them and they gotta stay sharp. You know what I mean? They have to be there. They haven't let their minds wonder since Egypt. They just stay sharp. They go, "Who's that? Who are you? What's that? Put that down. What's that over there? Don't do that.
A jewish man's existence feeds on arguments and turmoil with a dash of ramming your ideas through. Perfect for the White House. I expect we are tacking 100s of years onto this man's life.
source: Jewish as well
Quigglez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He probably did. Call it and find out! Tell them you're a Redditor and ask them about the narwhal!
Also, I may just start using my friends' telephone numbers when I need a random number.
saliczar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:06:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to enter my friends numbers in demo phones at the Verizon store. They work, so they'd get a ton of calls until they either went and deleted it themselves or the demo was replaced.
A-52 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:59:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know, but it was a joke on that general idea. Usually whenever people mention life expectancies from the past, someone always brings up infant mortality.
tree_D ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:06:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nimrond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Male life expectancy at age 75 has changed from ca. 9 to 11 more years since 1986 (when Reagan was 75). Even since 1901 male life expectancy at age 75 has only changed by 4.15 years, btw.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:42:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Liver cancer is highly correlated with alcohol abuse, though.
KNueve83 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:17:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about Apprentice abuse?
ekpg ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:31:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow I thought he was like late 50's early 60's
KNueve83 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:18:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rich 50 is like poor 30.
[deleted] ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 16:34:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Trump is a beast man. He doesn't drink or drugs. He fucks bitches and gets money. He has a lot of energy and is healthy. One of the reasons he should be president.
pdxscout ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:41:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your second sentence is confusing. Also, your political beliefs are confusing.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 16:46:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you'll continue using this account when Donald Trump is nothing more than a washed up shock jock next year, clinging to relevance with his sassy persona, desperately trying to repair the business relations he damaged in his campaign
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever. He's gonna be the Republican nominee and will beat Hillary in the general election.
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:58:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure he doesn't do it because his father or someone else in his family suffered from alcoholism.
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He doesn't drink or drugs.
I don't drugs, either.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, are you a billionaire like he is?
dorekk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:27:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was just making fun of your shitty sentence. Anyway, someone who doesn't drink or do drugs? Sounds like a bore.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His overall lavish lifestyle looks pretty fucking incredible to me. Flying around in a private jet. Model wife. Had one of the highest rated TV show, The Apprentice. Has been in other TV shows as well. Golfs at some of the best golf courses, has a lavish penthouses and gets five star treatment everywhere he goes. I don't see his life as being boring.
Me personally, I like beer and other types of alcohol, so that part would not work for me.
A: it's a tiny percentage at that age.
B: It's an even tinier difference between life expectancy once you've made it to that age.
C: Meh, whatever. I'm voting for Bernie anyway.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:04:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yes. You actually are voting for the vice president, whoever he/she will be.
EDIT: I did not ointend to offend Bernie supporters, because I am myself; however, he is in advanced age, and may eventually find the job overwhelming, or, if he finishes his term, the vice president will have a huge leverage.
Amazing other candidates haven't played the age card more often, in that case. They certainly have have before, like with McCain and Bob Dole. I suppose they will in the off chance he wins the nomination.
Yeah but Carter is 91. Reagan was 93, HW Bush is 91, Ford 93. Other than Reagan who had some sort of dementia They all did fine into their old age. Bernie will be just fine, hes got a lot of good years left.
Ending a sentence with a few periods followed by a question mark, while not technically grammatically correct, is common nowadays in English writing as a means of conveying a sense of confusion. My confusion comes from how you came to the conclusion that (s)he will be voting for Trump based on the fact that (s)he will not be voting for Sanders, due to his age. Would you mind clarifying your deduction?
All that I'm asking is that you rationalize your conclusion because I genuinely don't understand where it came from but you clearly refuse to support your argument so as far as in concerned, we should discontinue this pointless conversation.
I don't think we are on the same page. I want an explanation as to how you figure the person will be voting for Trump when all they said was that they would not be voting for Sanders because of his age.
"If this guy gets more votes than all those other guys right HERE, then he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna BOOM he'll be the next president."
"You know who'd make a great President? Brett Favre. If he could govern the Green Bay Packers to the championship in 1996, he could he could he could, uh, he could lead this country in 2016."
aeiouaeiouaeiou. Uuuuuuuuuh. Holla holla get dollar. ?!?!?!?!?! Football! Here comes another Chinese earthquake. Ebrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr yuoiyuoiyuoiyuoiyuoi. 99999999.
"At the end of the day, it's about who goes out there and really wants it more. You want to be able to say, they gave it their all and we gave it our all, and in this case we came out on top. Here's a guy with years of experience under his belt, and you can just tell that he loves to play the game. He loves to win. He's made it more than just his job to get out there and make the plays."
John Madden could provide ambiguous commentary for just about anything.
EntgirI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Usually the team that scores the most points wins the game. - John Madden
When that's the only money he makes off being a politician, no.
Compare Sanders' net worth to any other 30-year politician in the Senate or House if you want to see the stark difference in income for an honest politician vs. a regular politician.
hajlajf ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:57:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His net worth shouldn't be as high, or he would be talking with two tongues. If he earned the money only for his own sake, why does he purpose enormous tax raises for everyone else? Why is the concept of altruism so impossible for some people to understand...
I was merely arguing that Sanders has not fallen for the political game just because he's been a politician his entire life.
hajlajf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:31:28 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, anyway Sanders would be the nail in the coffin for the US as we have known it. And then no ones net worth will be especially high, so there will be nothing to argue about.
The "establishment" that we are refering to that he is not a part of is not "the US Government".
When we refer to an "Establishment" candidate, or say that he is not one, we're saying that he is not word-and-deed with his party and isn't in bed with Wall Street like most significant candidates who run for office. That's the establishment that we are against. Obviously we're not talking about the government, he's obviously a strong pro-federal government candidate.
Watch Bernie be the only President to which the aging effects of presidency have no effect on... Some one would need to study him, you know, for an anti-aging cure...
Scizmz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lurlex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He just has an old "look" to him, the wild Doc Brown hair thing. He's a single year older than Joe Biden, and within five years of both Clinton and Trump.
75 is really not a stretch; President is not a job we typically pick a youngster for. Obama was zeroing in on 50 when he won in 2008, and he was the fifth youngest president ever inaugurated. Reagan, on the other hand, was 2 years older than Sanders is now while still serving his last term.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just looked up Joe Biden's age earlier today, and I can't believe he's 74. That smooth bastard.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:45:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why he needs a good VP. Warren would be best, probably. I'd be okay with O'Malley.
[deleted] ยท 347 points ยท Posted at 15:03:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also a 8 yr difference ppl forget that..
[deleted] ยท 293 points ยท Posted at 15:07:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. No, I don't think they do. I think even accounting for that, the prez's age more.
havoc3d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a bit, yeah, not it's not like he looks ludicrously old for his age imo. I mean, yeah, celebrities who take fantastic care of themselves tend to age better, but this doesn't look that far off from mid 40s to mid 50s for your average person.
Eight years ago I could only grow peach fuzz on my face, I had a full head of hair, and wore shirts with ironic or goofy images on the front. Now half of my hair has migrated to the underside of my head, and I haven't purchased a "funny" shirt in years.
Scizmz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
7 he's got a year to go.
havoc3d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, for some reason it always kind of irritates me whenever someone does these with a "look how much it ages you!"
Yeah...8 years will do that to you. My driver's license picture is from when I was 25 or 26. People don't recognize me in it and i'm 32 now. Age ages you! My hair fell out, I have some wrinkles now, my facial hair is different with some signs of grey. I imagine a picture today compared to me at 40 is going to look a lot different as well.
8 years....as well as a different type of photo/setting, could have dyed his hair before, less makeup...etc. etc. etc.
I have to imagine you are a lot more worried about your physical appearance when you are campaigning to be president versus your last year of your 2nd term.
ROK247 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yah show me a pic of anyone that's hotter now than they were 8 years ago. no seriously, just send me pics of hot older women please!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:38:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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ROK247 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:53:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know what english you use but I was certainly not taught that a "y" counted as a vowel for when "an" is needed. I (and the others who downvoted you obviously do also) think that you are not correct.
Source: Native speaker.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know what english you use but I was certainly not taught that a "y" counted as a vowel for when "an" is needed.
Really? Did you just completely miss the "8" or "eight" as it is spelled directly proceeding the "y" in "year".
I did miss in in the OP. Your adjustment didn't include it so I read it as "an year" and you might understand how that would have grated the senses when spoken that way. This was what I was referring to. You might want to edit your comment to include the "eight".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't spelling out his sentence. I was correcting his specific words, hence the asterisks.
I usually see asterisks as correcting or emphasizing a specific word or to adjust it, not replacing one. I think to correct a word choice one should include the reason for correction, especially given the amount of non-native speakers that are learning english from every comment typed, it is important to be precise. Including the "eight" is important in this specific case.
I feel for him. At least he isn't some sociopathic leader who can make choices without empathy, stress, or conviction. He has made poor choices, but those grey hairs and that tired, drawn out face tells me that none of these choices were easy for him.
wwwiizard ยท 175 points ยท Posted at 15:31:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's just the difference 8 years makes when you're in your 50's. It will happen to all of us.
Not when you're rich. He should not have aged that much. This is a guy with access to the best medical care imaginable.
Also he started looking like that just after his first term too. This job has to be a stress nightmare.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:34:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The best medical care imaginable won't do much good with that much stress. Sure, the lines, the grey hair is part of it. But it's the muscles in the face, the expression, the posture. That's what makes him look old.
That is the face of a man who has realized something terrible.
More like the face of a man who's had thousands of fires to put out for almost a decade, probably a decade plus if you consider how long he's been in politics.
Still, despite the fact that he's been under so much stress that his hair has turned white, it's amazing the kind of longevity ex-presidents seem to have. Bush Sr. is still alive, and he's 91 years old. Hell, Carter is still alive and he looks like a train hit him and kept going.
SpeedyVT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:54:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, I was think testosterone and exercising would reduce the aging. HECK! Arnold look younger than him. Hormone concoctions usually help reduce the aging process.
dorekk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:19:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama was pretty wealthy before he took office, from sales of his book, I believe. Before his book he was no wealthier than any middle-class dude who owned a house, though.
Dire87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:27:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Problem is, this started showing after only the 1st or 2nd year being president. His hair seemed to instantly go "nope, no more colour for you, bitch".
SerLaron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:35:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure if you would compare the aging rate of actors and presidents, you would see a difference.
He's only been in his 50's half of those years, and this is still abnormal compared to others who take remotely good care of themselves in their adulthood. It's more than just grey hairs, there looks like a lot of other negative physiological changes pushed things along much quicker.
I was going to say that it was true, he really was replaced by a lizard-man shape-shifter, or a left handed doppelganger from a mirror Earth...but meth is a pretty good explanation also.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to post this, I've been on Reddit too long
odyniec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clicked the comments section to make sure this was the top comment. Was not disappointed.
Bloofis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Soon as I saw the pic I thought of the exact same line. Let's be friends.
geo845 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why does everyone act like they don't look drastically different than they did 7 years ago... I mean if you looked at a photo of yourself 7 years ago you'd probably laugh at yourself
The focus was off, it had a shallower depth of field, looks like the photog is focused on the mic stand? The resolution is way way way way lower on the left as well
overall giving bama a younger softer look.
I'm canadian but we tuned in at dinner to watch and he had some really great points, seeing that smug look on Paul Ryans face almost made me lose it
to be fair he transitioned from his 40s to 50s while president. Age was going to show regardless.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shouldn't the President have like all the best personal trainers, dieticians, doctors, mental health experts, etc. to make sure his in the best shape possible? Or is that how fast a President ages even with all that help.
Stress is bad to your health especially if you are president of the World's most dominant state. In span of 8 years he aged relatively fast.
lilvon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also theirs almost a decade between the 2 pictures. While I'm certain that running the most powerful country in the world is far form stress free I doubt you look the same as yo did 8 years ago.
avatoddo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not even twice
AnimeF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JasonDJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's amazing how much of a physical toll presidency takes on a person. How much they age during their term.
I'd love to see an album of past Presidents like this -- a photo at the beginning of their first term and a photo at the end of their last. I feel like Barrack took it way harder than W, Clinton, or HW though. Maybe because he was so young-looking when he entered in the first-place.
That's a face that's seen state secrets, state lies to the people and had the looming possibility of nuclear war with, well anyone... On his shoulders. He'll be glad to go.
I don't know if it's presidency as much as the "M" word...Middle Age. It's a slippery slope after 40. I'm using crampons and an ice axe to hang onto my youthful glow.
HadesWTF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mother fucker walked in looking like Ric Flair, came out looking like Uncle Ben.
poprover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have named this picture: "Dumb and Dumber"
Zenopus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought most of it was done before he was president and the electoral college picked Washington for his leadership qualities. I forget what Washington did during his presidency but building the country happened before that. He did set the 8 year limit though.
I thought FDR set the 8 year limit after he served for 12 years
_deffer_ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:11:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So Washington turned down a 3rd term, and everyone just took that as 'two terms is the max then' and never seeked a third term... until Ulysses S. Grant who sought a 3rd term in 1880, but lost to Garfield in the primary IIRC.
Others include Teddy Roosevelt (though technically it would have been his second elected term, McKinley was assassinated only a few months into his term - effectively a third term) and Grover Cleveland I believe. There were at least a few more who tried, but my studies were mainly on Grant, Teddy and Grover. Wilson comes to mind?
jesse9o3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:25:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Grover Cleveland never technically ran for a 3rd term because although he ran for president 3 times he only won twice with a gap in between so he basically ran for his 2nd time twice.
Rather interestingly he won the popular vote all 3 times but because of electoral college shenanigans he lost on his 2nd run. Because of this gap between his terms, and what I can only conclude is a fair degree of stupidity on whoever did the official counting, Grover Cleveland is both the 22nd and 24th President, which makes no sense at all.
_deffer_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. Cleveland wanted to run in the 1896 elections seeking a third term as president (and second consecutive term.) My comment was strictly talking those who served two terms and sought a third term after their 8th year - which Cleveland did.
jesse9o3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except he didn't, some delegates from the Gold Democrats wanted to give him the nomination but they relented after he telegraphed saying he wouldn't accept nomination.
_deffer_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On mobile so I don't have my folders with my undergrad research, but he wanted to run again - which is the emphasis in my previous two comments. They didn't get the nominations to even run for a third term in most cases - but they wanted to.
My comments were stating that at the beginning, Washington did 2 and then said that's enough. Everyone followed his example for almost 100 years until Grant. After him there were a few examples of those who wanted a third term (as opposed to those who served two and stepped away without seeking a third) - Cleveland was one.
Grover Cleveland pursued a third term (and second consecutive term) in 1896, but in the wake of the Panic of 1893, lost virtually all support to the Silverites led by William Jennings Bryan. He furthermore declined to head the Gold Democrat ticket, whose performance proved abysmal, although their campaign did receive his endorsement.
So he wanted a third term (which is all I said in my original two comments.) He wasn't on the ticket, he wasn't even in the primaries. But he wanted it. Either you're misunderstanding my first two comments, or we're just on separate thought processes here.
jesse9o3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Either you're misunderstanding my first two comments, or we're just on separate thought processes here.
Seems like both, I thought you meant he tried to run for president, not just that he wanted to.
_deffer_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, sorry I didn't clarify that better (one of my shortcomings.) I'm sure a lot of the presidents before 22 thought about a third, but only a few were publicly open about the prospect as it had become a de facto limit of 2 for both serving presidents, as well as public opinion that 2 be the limit.
Washington set the tradition. FDR went against tradition in 1940 because the whole Germany starting WW2 thing made him feel like he was the only one with enough experience to get the country through it.
jesse9o3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He wasn't the first president to try. Grant, Cleveland, Teddy Roosevelt, and Wilson would all have had longer than 8 years in office if they had their way, but they all lose primaries or elections
Actually Cleveland never stood for a 3rd term, rather he stood for his 2nd term twice. There is nothing to indicate that he wanted to have more than two terms, especially considering that in the run up to the 1896 election he told delegates at the Gold Democrats Conference that he wouldn't accept nomination.
dontbend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Antebios ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:47:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was because of FDR and his 4 terms that an amendment was added to the Constitution that limited a presidential term to maximum of 2 (plus some of previous prez's time that vice-prez filled in).
I think the vp limit is it's counted as a full term if it's greater than 2 years and otherwise ignored. So max time anyone could be president theoretically is 10 years.
Antebios ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:20 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, congestive heart failure, melanoma metastasized to the brain, and lingering effects of influenza that he contracted at the conference in Teheran. Check out this article:
I notice you get things wrong a lot but try to justify it by saying you're close enough for it to be "right" even though it's absolutely not right.
Whether or not your ego likes to admit it, wrong is wrong.
16 years is 33% more than 12.
If you were 33% wrong on a test you'd get a D, yet you insist you got an A. This is why you are where you are in life. And it is your "Aah, I'm right anyway, because (insert rationalization here)" attitude that holds you back.
Well, polio mixed with 12 years vs the typical 8. And, you know, WWII. That has to be like double points or something.
Zzyyxx2 ยท 373 points ยท Posted at 15:04:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FDR did.
Teddy just looked more badass. Then again, when he died he was found beating the living shit out of the Grimm Reaper with his bare hands, he only died of exhaustion because you can't kill something that is dead already. US Marshals reports said "Mr. Reaper took it like a bitch the entire time."
That's pretty much what Vice President Thomas R. Marshall said at the time: "Death had to take him sleeping, for if Roosevelt had been awake, there would have been a fight."
I like your version better, though
Zzyyxx2 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 15:39:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, reading more and more about the man, I think that would have been more fact than fiction.
TR was the shit that legends are made of. He was... well, hard to explain. I would say the closest fictional character I can think of to him is Mal Reynolds, with his whole "if I ever kill you, you'll be armed, and facing me" (paraphrased) thing.
"Bully! I'll fight you til I damned well please and you'll like it, don't you know who I am?"
YES. I DO. ARE YOU DONE YET? I'VE GOT PLACES TO BE.
"Come on, put em up! You're not even trying!"
SIGH... YOU ASKED FOR IT.
And Death punched Teddy Roosevelt so hard the echoes were heard all around the Disc. The sound was one of grinding stone, like a headstone being simultaneously cut from a mountain, formed and carved and slammed into place above an open grave from orbit. Some say that the reverberations can still be heard echoing through the Ramtops to this day.
As the fabric of reality stopped shaking like a flag in a thunderstorm, Death standing over the crumpled, shadowy figure of the former president, a most surprising thing happened - the ghostly figure of the man stood up. "Ah, that's more like it!" the shadow of Teddy Roosevelt said as he wiped ectoplasmic blood from his lip and cracked his knuckles, "Now, for my retort!"
If Death had known how to comprehend fear, and if he had an esophagus, he would have gulped.
Some time later, as Death sunk into his chair back in his black mansion, Albert couldn't help but notice that his master's bones seemed to creak ever so slightly more than usual.
Zzyyxx2 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:41:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"A splint, sir... for your... um... injuries."
"Fuck you Albert. Fuck you."
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:52:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I miss Terry Pratchett...
q8p ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:41:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice. Very Pratchett-like.
fukitol- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:28:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, thanks, but I don't think it's anywhere as godly as Pratchett. I've just read some of the books so I kinda understand the style, he was really something else with wordplay.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:27:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So Teddy Roosevelt is the real life form of Chuck Norris memes?
Zzyyxx2 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:36:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TR's real life persona makes Norris look weak.
After a cavalry charge in Cuba in which he took heavy losses, he was depressed. Not because his unit was nearly wiped out. But because he didn't receive a disfiguring battle wound.
That's a level of hardcore Norris doesn't even begin to approach.
Considering the man was shot in the middle of a speech, made it into a talking point, and thereafter continued, this may not be the truth, but it was pretty close to it.
Well, I mean, he already had a pretty seriously debilitating disease, was a chronic smoker, and led the country through the most stressful period it's ever withstood.
So, I mean, I don't blame the guy for looking like he'd been hit by a truck.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:08:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FDR was the best president in history. When he got into office, America was going through the greatest economic downturn in history. FDR made United States a military powerhouse, created an all time low employment rate, defeated the axis powers and made the United States into the most powerful nation in the world.
zykezero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The 2 terms rule was added after his 3rd term.
Wizzer10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aging 12 years, turning the Western world around from the greatest economic depression in history, witnessing the rise of Communism as a global threat, surviving polio and winning World War 2 will to that to you.
According to a book on the US in the mid 20th century I have called The Glory And The Dream by William Manchester FDR basically worked himself to death.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Why does he get such a longer term? I thought you could only do 2 at that point
zykezero ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:06:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is the reason we only have 2 term presidencies. Prior to Roosevelt it was standard for only two terms because of the precedent that George Washington set.
Well, there was an election between him and a guy named Wendell Willkie. The war breaking out certainly helped Roosevelt's chances of reelection, but America didn't enter the war until 1942 (prior to '42, most of Americans were adamantly against involving themselves with European affairs). In fact, Roosevelt ran his 1940 campaign on the statement that "your boys will not be going to war."
"Let no group assume the exclusive label of the "peace bloc." We all belong to it ... I give you my deep and unalterable conviction, based on years of experience as a worker in the field of international peace, that by the repeal of the embargo the United States will more probably remain at peace than if the law remains as it stands today ... Our acts must be guided by one single, hardheaded thought -- keeping America out of the war."
Clinton bothered me because the lighting is so different that you can barely spot the differences. That's more a comparison between a professional portrait and a candid shot.
54456778 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:00:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did not have sax with that woman. Ms Lewinksy
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that it was a good place to insert some morbid humor.
Deradius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, anyone with brains in their skull knows JFK had a head start, being the youngest president ever elected. Between that and the fact that his term was shorter than most, it's not too mind blowing that you'd have to use a high powered scope to spot any evidence of aging.
CptnCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was taking shit-loads of drugs to treat addison's disease. I read that a side effect of the drugs was that his face was puffier. That would explain why he looks less wrinkled in later photos.
Are you saying that how old you look is generally a function of how old you are and how much you aged?
I would also like to point out that 8 years is roughly one tenth of average u.s. life expectancy.
8 years ago i was just out of college and living at home with my folks trying to get back on my feet and deal with my student loans. I have a wife, adopted daughter, a house, and 7 years of experience in my field of study now. I also looked a lot younger.
Or the younger a person is when becoming president, the less experience they have in dealing with chronic high stress, thus leading to more dramatic aging.
Yea, no shit people age as a function of time. Most people don't age 20 years in the span of 8 though.
You do in your 50's.
50 to 60 is a pretty big change.
20-30 meh no biggy.
30-40 ouch some things are achy that weren't before but I'm good.
40-50 I'm tired, and I cannot function at the same rate as I could before.
50-60 Things no longer function the same, some things function much less.
60+ Functionality is iffy on some things, lots of things ache.
What? Name one of those presidents that actually looks 20 years older after their 8 year term. They look about a decade older, which is accurate.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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kiwiluke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i think i've aged about 30 years in the last 8, seems running your own business ages you faster than running the free world
Eight years ago, I was 24. Since then I've moved across the country, spent 7 years working at a nightclub, got married, and had a baby. I'm 32 now, still work 6-9 nights a month, full time mom, special needs kid. I look almost EXACTLY the same except my makeup has improved and I'm more fit vs skinny. I passed for 19-20 then, I pass for 23-24 now. If I said I was 20 I wouldn't be questioned. I'm terrified that I'm going to be one of those people who just wakes up old one day. But maybe not, I think a lot of my habits keep me young. Please keep me young, habits.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:59:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, poor Lincoln
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:59:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll give you that it's a decent amount of time to age, and if it was a man going from a head full of hair to balding, that would be one thing. I think it's a little naive to think the stress of the office doesn't impact the President physically, though.
I tried to think of another politician who is fairly young. Here is Paul Ryan in 2008, and here he is in 2016. It's been 8 years since Sarah Palin ran for vice president. Here she is in 2008, and here she is in 2015. These politicians didn't age nearly to the degree of President Obama. I think it's a common observation that Presidents age drastically while in office. It would be interesting if someone did a study on the phenomenon, though.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Palin basically hasn't worked in 8 years. 8 years of leisure will do that to a person.
dfriddy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:51:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bill Clinton drank a lot.
watereol ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:00:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reagan's hair genes are just immaculate. He had the hairline of a teenager to his death.
I love how Eisenhower looks insane at the end of his term. Commanding Allied forces against the Nazis? Piece of cake. Handling the capricious American electorate? Institutionalize me please.
Yeah, everyone has this folk wisdom that being stressed ages you or gives you grey hair. They forget that time ages you more. We're talking about 7 years here.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Roosevelt. I mean, it's called moisturizer for chrissakes!
two2teps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like JFK is a bit of a cheat at only three years, and FDR died in office so his final picture is going to look way worse than anyone else. Also Clinton truly is bullet proof.
I feel like there might be images of Lincoln and Kennedy that would should a more... stark... contrast from the start of their presidencies to the ends.
jnemomic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol those pictures are such bullshit. the lighting in the before pictures wash out all the features. not saying the presidency doesn't age you, but those pictures don't show it
Does anyone else notice that all of those presidents except Obama are missing their upper lips? Look at Regan. And FDR looks like he's missing both his lips! He just has a slit for a mouth.
I feel like bush and Reagan aged well, Reagan already being older helped. Eisenhower is terrifying. And I was think damn, the presidency hit FDR HARD but then I remembered all the extenuating circumstances of his presidency. Poor guy held up like a champ.
Several of these are exaggerated by cherry-picking the photos. For example, the first Roosevelt photo is obviously a portrait sitting that has been airbrushed, where the second is a news snapshot. The first Nixon is slightly blurred, which hides skin texture and blemishes.
room7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like most of the befores are staged portrates and afters are candid/action shots. Most of them in the link dont look exponentially bad after.
Meanwhile, Ike looks like he had a few leisurely years after having won WWII and previously holding a title that sounds even cooler than President of the United States. "Supreme Allied Commander NATO Forces" just has a certain awesomeness built right into the title.
Carrabus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think Clinton got younger
aenor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of them weather it better than others.
Look at Eisenhower - he's a little older but the eyes are as cheerful as ever. Reagan's eyes look the same too.
Whereas Roosevelt and Lincoln look utterly exhausted, they've survived but their eyes say they are utterly weary and disappointed in the world.
Without a doubt. Any president would have about 10 people behind the scenes working out exactly what he/she should wear for any particular function. Because that is exactly what politics is about these days... appearance!
I'm sure he has somebody (or bodies) who are mindful of this, but he also only owns two colors of suit. His "look" is just a choice of grey or blue suit, and what tie.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:13:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Implying kings and nobles haven't been wearing the latest fashions for thousands of years.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:49:32 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the latest in formal fashion acceptable in Washington. Besides, that isn't the point. The point is people in positions of power have always worried about their appearance.
Dipz ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:09:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's also black. We age well.
ananori ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:17:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black doesn't crack!
Illugami ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:19:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
here's a tip: Lotion!
ratuuft ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:17:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's down to us living in parts of the world we didn't evolve for. I've got relatives in Iceland who look a good fifteen years younger than they actually are, because the sun doesn't come out for half the year.
White dude here, super jealous. You guys age well and can pull off the shaved head much better than us. Thats why you almost never see an ugly ass balding black dude, only handsome smooth headed dudes.
The angle is the least of it. The second photo is taken from a scene that makes him look sad when frozen. Even the saturation is brought down! Like way down, they gave him the color of a fucking corpse. On top of that, the colors of the first one are set to look more yellow and bright, while the second one is more blue and muted. Somebody did everything they could think of to make the photos look as different as possible.
Also look at the color saturation in the second photo. His ring and flag pin both look grey, showing that the color has been brought down. He may have grey hair and and more lines in his face, but I imagine his skin should still be the same color.
Falldog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:04:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
linds360 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's either Photoshop or heavier makeup. It also doesn't help that he's raising his eyebrows in the "now" picture so his wrinkles are more evident.
I'm just thinking.. In star wars, they had a legitimate Senate, yet Palpatine still thinks it's a great choice to wear a hood like the goddamn Grim Reaper. How weird would it be if Obama showed up one day just wearing a robe?
Fun fact of the much more recent day: In the last 35 years (an eternity in terms of national and international politics, changes in norms, etc), only 5 people have been President. Only George H.W. Bush was elected once; Reagan, Clinton, Bush Jr. and Obama were all two-term Presidents.
sidepart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:19:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The majority of presidents in my lifetime have been two term presidents.
svtguy88 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:06:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If he gets elected, I have a feeling he's going to piss off too many people to get re-elected...and I'm fine with this. Sometimes you need someone to stir the pot.
orfane ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 15:13:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just had to stir the pot didn't you
Jess52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 15:12:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
He almost certainly will not win.
It's alright to back a candidate that isn't going to win, hell I'm going to vote for Jezza Corbyn next time round.
EDIT: This is why Redditors think Sander is going to win. Downvoting people who disagree with the consensus on what is probably your only source of news is not a good idea.
makes sense, the GOP still has like 9 different candidates who could realistically win so the odds of either of the two serious Democratic candidates are going to be a lot higher.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:17:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not sure why you say that. he's doing really well in the polls.
[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 15:23:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
In some places. Nationwide he is still losing comfortably.
According to a NYT poll released last night, nationwide it's about 41% Sanders, 48% Clinton, with a 6% MOE. Not sure what polls you're looking at. In "some places" he's polling 10%+ higher, like NH.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:16:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's got more chance of winning than any of the republican candidates, from what I can tell. And Hilary is an untrustworthy bitch. Normally I'd say someone as old as Sanders has no chance in hell, but considering his competition, he may.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There won't be another Republican president for a long time. The Democrats could run Pol Pot's reanimated corpse and still win.
Hilary is a bad candidate for the presidency, and represents everything wrong with US politics, but she is still sitting on an 80% chance of winning (as of the last time I looked).
Seakawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I think of defense mechanisms, I always think about the way people will edit their comment when they're downvoted.
That being said, your edit seems like quite an assumption. You sure your comment just wasn't genuinely deserving of a downvote? Why or why not?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:07:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Editing your comment when it's below the score threshold is the only way to get your point across. Most people won't open further tiers of the discussion unless it is to mass downvote all your comments in the chain.
Giving an alternative viewpoint (not a contrarian opinion, or top level dressing down of the article) is just something you cannot do on Reddit.
Any comment that doesn't either a) serve no purpose b) break sub-Reddit rules should be at the very least ignored.
Three/four years ago I could have posted the same comment about Ron Paul and it would have yielded the same result.
My comment adds to the discussion, is not inflammatory or offensive, and despite what this community likes to think, is probably right. It's censored because Reddit support Sanders on average.
I think Jezza has a much better chance of becoming PM than Bernie does of winning the presidency. But then, his chances are pretty good since David Cameron has made it his mission to be hated by as many different groups of people as people and it's unlikely that a potential replacement could turn things around in time to win the next election.
"Turn it around"??? He's already significantly ahead of Corbyn and just won a conservative majority. Get off Reddit! He's not the most popular but Corbyn doesn't stand a chance and the conservatives could get a Cat elected before Corbyn gets close to number 10.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone online seems to be under the impression that Cameron leads an unpopular government, which isn't the case at all.
It was an insane feat to gain a majority in the GE. The Conservatives are well liked by large swathes of the UK.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Corbyn needs the Scottish vote to win, which he is not going to get. The SNP landslide is going to continue, for better or for worse.
The next government is likely going to be some kind of Conservative coalition, unless Corbyn does a deal with the SNP (which would be great).
I think Corbyn is the best PM candidate in several decades, and is probably the best leader Labour has ever had, but he will probably still lose.
Even though newer polls have him leading in Iowa and New Hampshire (and the ones that don't still demonstrate a very tight race in those states)? Reddit isn't far off on this one.
Sanders will fair well in NH, Iowa, and Vermont because of the liberal demographics. But Hillary is insanely popular in the South, New York, and West Coast. She is also winning more endorsements than Sanders, which puts her in a better position in the super delegate part. Sanders will do well in the beginning, but it is looking grim after that.
Winning Iowa and New Hampshire would have a massive impact on the campaign in favor of Bernie Sanders, like it does for candidates every election. He would be taken more seriously by more people as a viable candidate, not just a Reddit pipe dream. Lots of people are still convinced Hillary is the only option for Democrats.
Have you kept up with the elections in the last two months? There have been dozens of polls showing Bernie is the most electable candidate of either party.
Good for them. Who are they polling? He simply cannot win a general election. He is too far left. He is too far left for even many democrats. Unless the right goes full retard with Trump then Sanders loses. End of story. He will not be president. Sorry to crush your dreams.
I have a feeling the polling is very targeted, the sample size small compared to the actual voters, and that the questions are asked in a way that elicits a certain response. Also, what's the margin of error? What are the questions being asked? How are people being contacted? With the method of contact, what kind of person is reached that way (landline vs. cell vs. ??)
I think there's a lot going into polling rather than asking "Who do you like?" to those on the street. And even that can elicit a certain response - what street are you on? Are you by Wall St? Or near a church? Or by a homeless shelter? These all influence what kind of response people get. And you bet pollsters keep that in mind.
I would be highly skeptical of ANY poll for ANY candidate, no matter which way you lean.
If you think polling is inherently flawed because you aren't asking every voter, you don't understand statistics. Your point about methodology is of course important, but every respectable poll reports that alongside their findings.
This was the poll I was referring to. You can read about those details:
It's not always about sample size. It's about sample distribution. I am skeptical about a lot of polls too because building the proper audience is important to get representative results.
If you look at the bottom, it says out of 492 likely caucus voters. How many people participate in Iowa caucuses? According to this link, 492 doesn't seem to be a statistically significant portion of the voting population.
And furthermore, the pre-polls are not often reflective of the realities of what happens following the election. And Iowa is hardly ever the 'nail in the coffin' that it sometimes is hyped up to be.
Vegas makes odds based on how to attract action. 6:1 means they're giving you shit odds on something that's a long shot. There are enough hopeful people that want to see Bernie in that they'll bet on it. Plus there's always the one in a kajillion chance Hillary starts shouting the n word in public.
Of course Trump has more of a chance. He's the frontrunner for his party and is virtually guaranteed to be on the ballot in November.
tinlo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahahaha, according to the media. That's hilarious. You're funny. You should join the Capitol Steps.
Trippze ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:19:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hes beating hillary in almost every state by every demographic, and only 4% under hillary in nation polls, this early. He has the highest chance to win out of any candidate currently
If this is true "hes beating hillary in almost every state by every demographic" then how is this true "4% under hillary in nation polls"? Just how "almost" are we talking here?
Look at polls from a few weeks a go and a few months ago. You will see that Hillary continues to drop while Bernie continues to rise, without showing signs of stopping. Put 2 and 2 together and very soon Bernie is gonna lead everywhere.
Trippze ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:42:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hillary is winning by only a small margin where bernie gets almost no media coverage, once primaries start and tv will be forced to show bernies message, he will undoubtedly pass her
docfluty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:40:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah we know... its only 17 out of 20 threads in /r/politics lately.
its like there is nothing else to talk about in the whole us going on than the fact that this guy wont lose by as much as we thought he was going to before heading into the useless iowa primaries weeks from now.
Trippze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:41:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
useless iowa? iowa is the most important state, it's a swing state
docfluty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i said "useless iowa primaries"
as in the same primarie that hucabee won in 2008
Trippze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he wasnt a front runner, or even a runner up at the time. a front runner winning the primary is different
oh reddit cynics. Bernie doesn't stand a chance and Trump is a lock. kek
Andynym ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit seems determined to remain convinced that sanders is not a legitimate candidate despite whatever evidence comes out to the contrary.
Then again, Reddit being dogmatically contrarian is not exactly shocking
Trippze ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
republicans have no chance of becoming president, i'll just say that. It's bernie vs hillary for the next president, most of the country is now blue, i don't see republicans getting presidency ever again honestly. it'll be dem vs independent in the future
Most of the country is probably democrat, but not by as large a margin as you think. There are a lot of Republicans and Independents as well. These GoP candidates don't stand a chance because by far the majority of Americans aren't insane. The Republicans that normal moderate people would vote for are being buried under loonies like Trump and Cruz.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:14:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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AK_Happy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Democrats stand 0 chance at winning this next election. Even now, Cruz and Rubio are ahead of Hillary in the national polling with Trump and Bush sitting at a tie. That gap is only going to get more pronounced once the General Election, and the mudslinging, starts. Hillary has way too much baggage to be electable and Sanders is literally a Socialist.
Seriously, I'm just waiting for him to be giving a speech and get that white crusty stuff on the edge of his lips that old people get. Makes me gag....
Dxtuned ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even have to click and I already knew what the picture would be. Bless you, humourous redditor.
Stones25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know you're joking but no one addresses this. Sanders is an old man, he may pass away in office, who is his legitimate VP?
Ironically, he's actually become more emboldened to get things done now that his term is almost over. He has no one to please, no electorate to win over. Sure, he can't get congress to help but for the first time in his presidency we're seeing him really lean on his executive powers to get things done (see: recent gun control regs) and I love it.
It's almost like the system was designed for him to negotiate and build consensus despite disagreement, which is something he's notoriously bad at.
He campaigned as a uniter but didn't have the heart to compromise. Did he really think people would be bowled over by his handsome looks and pre-scripted eloquence?
tavenger5 ยท 163 points ยท Posted at 13:58:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The reversal of all the tie colors is messing with me.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:13:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say unless you're a Fortune 500 CEO, the shirt is a lot more negotiable. Stripes, patterns, etc. Tie too, actually. Come to think of it, medium or even lighter grey suits aren't uncommon in business either.
I didn't spend too much time checking but I think it went something like red, red, red, blue, red, blue, blue, blue. Red is for being aggressive, blue is for defending what you've done.
giveer ยท 165 points ยท Posted at 15:01:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, so is the widening head phenomenon just a weight thing? A Val Kilmer thing? Alcohol thing? What is it? Because it definitely is some kind of thing.
adriaan13 ยท 290 points ยท Posted at 15:08:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think its just a food thing. Val Kilmer did a great job at it though.
giveer ยท 414 points ยท Posted at 15:09:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hot damn, his head flipped over.
FaZaCon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:21:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck you for making me laugh at getting old and out of shape. It happens to us ALL.
When someone shows signs of being the Chosen One, the Ancient and Perpetual Council of the Grimacean Stewards kidnaps him and carries him away to their Chamber of Trials, burrowed deep within a mountain on a Pacific island. There the Candidate is subjected to a grueling series of ordeals.
If he survives, his status as the Chosen One is confirmed, and he is annointed on the spot. If he dies, his remains are ground up, dehydrated into a powder and shipped to McDonald's HQ, where they are added to the mixture for shakes.
This is the Word of the Clown.
AK_Happy ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 15:35:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
peepjynx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:03:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing happened to John Travolta and Alec Baldwin... some men get giant head syndrome or something when they age... other's don't. Maybe it's to balance out women who get pear ass.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He went from having a strong jaw to having three.
durtysox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure Val is dying of something. I think he's Christian Scientist, a religion where you don't get treatment because God. In 2011 he was hospitalized with intense bleeding from the throat. He won't answer speculation as to what he has, but I'm pretty sure it's something horrible.
Axl, on the other hand, seems like a classic addict of some type. He's got a lot of unresolved issues from growing up in a poor and abusive environment. He's apparently impossible to get along with, even by other crazy musicians, which suggests drugs to me. He's done heroin before, but heroin makes you agreeable. He has no reputation for being agreeable. He's very aggressive and bloaty. I'm guessing just alcohol. It can fuck you up just enough to make you an eternal shithead but not kill you for decades.
I think it's an "unflattering angle coupled with an action shot" thing, in combination with the aging. Here's a recent shot of him where the photographer hasn't caught him with a daft expression on his face in the middle of running around on stage.
Antebios ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Much better.
xv323 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:15:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't tell if you're just making a general statement or whether you think that's Val Kilmer in those pictures...
giveer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:17:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure no one has ever mistaken Axl Rose for Val Kilmer.
xv323 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Glad to hear it, you had me worried for a moment.
disguy2k ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably due to the type of lens used. Different lenses will appear more flattering than others.
AK_Happy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:37:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And a sex change.
JooJoona ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:43:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I was just attracted to a man for a second or two there. I thought I was looking at a hot girl but then I saw that "she" had quite large arms... and now I'm confused.
Axl Rose, vocalist in the band Guns N' Roses. He was great before, in the late 80s early 90s, but now he's more "meh".
AK_Happy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:36:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"meh" is giving him a lot of credit.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:34:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks dude. I'm pretty sure it's mainly from overexposure since I like them in my teens but I can't stand GNR anymore. Especially every time I hear "Sweet Child of Mine" starting I want to blow my brains out.
We should elect a president with a twin so we can do A/B testing to see how bad the presidency really ages someone. Everyone assumes the presidency causes over-aging, but we don't really have a basis for comparison.
Boro84 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:00:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
we do have 44 people who most of which, appear to have aged well faster than the amount of years they served
geo1088 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:43:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But is the accelerated ageing really linked to the presidency, or just those years of a person's life presenting more change than normal? That's the question.
Boro84 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
considering the age difference of all of the presidents entering office being ~30 years, I feel its close, but again, theres no real evidence
We've had presidents with siblings. At the same ages, how does George W. Bush compare to his brother Jeb?
rebal123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:10:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if the twin is mandated to spend the term(s) length on an island surrounded by beautiful people, chilling out all day and playing volleyball. Haha
Yep, his hair turning grey means that he was thinking really hard. The bags under his eyes mean he was looking into the future. Man, this talking out of my ass thing is so much fun!
Please. It's hardly a stretch to claim that the extreme stress of being president can cause a bit of aging. Proven? No. But frankly it would almost be bizarre if it wasn't the case.
I agree, just saying "It should age anyone who is fully engaged the the weight of office" sounds stupid to me. Like, have we ever had any presidents not engaged in their jobs? Just sounds like someone talking out of ther ass to me with blind confidence, that's all
Well technically because of him i was able to receive free healthcare/dental care worth thousands of dollars. His changes just didn't benefit EVERYONE.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 16:22:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It wasnt free. Someone else paid for it. His changes hurt a lot of people too.
I made like 14k last year working at target since the gi bill doesn't count for income. Cost like 700 or something on my income tax for not having insurance. That wasn't even a full year without coverage. Not that it isn't my fault for not having any of course.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for your service. What branch were you in?
Like Trump with his small loan of a million dollars?
"Get a hold of yourself, woman!" - Ron Swanson
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As far as business loans go, the average is 500,000 for small business loan. With some going up to 4 million. Your mortgage is about a fifth of what he used to created his business. Do you have a fifth what he has?
What does this have to do with affordable healthcare? And I'm 17, fuck no I don't. My parents might?
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well you were satirizing the size of his loan, despite actually being a pretty unspectacular business loan. Unless you're just saying "someone with more money than I do paid for it so it doesn't matter because they still have money." as if that is what principle is all about.
Overall the economy seems in a better place though. I've even gotten a raise lol
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Economy changes are way too large of a thing to put on a president. We came out of the housing bubble but the afministration didnt make great strides for that its just the natural way of things. If they had, we'd hear more about it. It wasnt as if Bush damaged the economy. We have an entire Congress to handle our country and this wasnt even what we were discussing
3DGrunge ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 15:34:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, I'm incredibly upset that I am now able to afford healthcare.
It is more expensive now. If you can afford it now you could afford it before. The only difference is that now you are fined if you don't have it.
Also my health insurance got much worse and everything is more expensive. The affordable healthcare act fucked me. I can no longer afford to have my wife on my insurance.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:21:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, I got denied twice for health care over the years before the ACA, because of a pre-existing condition (ulcerative colitis). Now I not only qualify, it's very affordable.
akamurph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you thought about why your healthcare is now "very affordable" with your pre-existing condition? Because the majority of people's costs rose to cover your and other's costs.
Great for you and all - but the circle jerk of redditors downvoting people who say their healthcare costs are much more expensive is laughable. Nothing is 'free' children.
3DGrunge ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
See that sucks. The loopholes they had to keep people out. The whole pre-existing conditions thing was a great change.
Now I not only qualify, it's very affordable.
It is more expensive than ever before for the majority. As I said I can no longer afford to have my wife on my healthcare.
edit: Downvoted for truth and agreeing with the guy on the preexisting conditions portion. Impressive.
Podunk14 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 15:26:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I know! It is cheap at $800/mo for a family and only increasing by 25% a year now! Not to mention all those lucky people who don't qualify for Medicare now and don't make enough to afford government sponsored Healthcare. It's alright though, they can just pay an extra tax at tax time so it's easy.
Let's also not forget that now that hospitals and Healthcare providers are "guaranteed" their money they are raising prices on everything. $10,000 for an aspirin? Why not! Well collect it from insurance since everyone has it and it's state sponsored!
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:35:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right, because no President in the history of the United States has ever authorized the use of military force which sometimes resulted in civilian casualties. That's a brand new, Obama specific thing. Fuck that guy amirite.
Would you rather put American boots on the ground and go through another Iraq?
Podunk14 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would prefer not to be at war at all. But I know that's unrealistic.
However, I don't know if anyone before Obama used drones to attack civilians. Maybe Bush did, but that's been so long ago that I can't remember.
antbates ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is your ethical dilemma with a drone strike versus a long range missile strike? Plenty of Presidents have authorized and used long range missiles strikes.
Podunk14 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:32:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Nothing except with a drone you get to see your target die in real time . But Obama said the use of drones to target civilians was an act of terrorism. Thus calling himself a terrorist
You have this beef with Obama specifically, but you don't even bother to look into what other presidents have done?
Are you listening to yourself? You sound like the people that consider the Dubya years "the good ol' days" while conveniently forgetting that he left office with a 71% disapproval rating.
Podunk14 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never said I didn't have any beef with anyone else. You're projecting and inferring and you're arguing with your emotions and the "my party isn't wrong" mentality. Fuck off you twat and learn to be objective and stop worrying about what "team" is right or wrong. Bush did a lot of shitty things too and should be considered a war criminal just like Obama. Clinton, Reagan, and likely everyone else except maybe Hamilton since he wasn't around long enough have all done shitty things.
That's a lot of angry words from someone that's accusing me of projecting my emotions.
Objectivity is my greatest strength, but it's clear that it's not welcome here.
Podunk14 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:26:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol
antbates ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Not a single thing you have written here is true. None of it. I get being critical because there is always room for improvement but just stating nonsense is not helpful for anyone.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It seems like its incredibly helpful for the republicans and their conservative base.
Beegrene ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:48:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I, too, hate how low unemployment is these days.
Podunk14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Had nothing to do with him. The recovery was already in place before he took office. He just had to ride the coat tails.
Also, unemployment may be down, but under employment is up
dorekk ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The recovery was already in place before he took office.
It's definitely arguable whether the change was effective or even positive, I'll let you all argue that amongst yourselves. Regardless, it was change and he accomplished it.
I remember Carter looked about 20 years older over the course of his 4 years. The hostage crisis in the last few months alone beat about 10 years out of him.
I think healthy black people just age very well, especially in their 30s. I work with and know several black people in their 30s/40s and they all look 10 years younger than they are.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:25:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my mother is a black woman in her 40s and people still think she's much younger than she is. Her coworkers assumed she had me in her teens when they found out that I'm in my early 20s.
Rubio and Cruz are the same age basically. Some just look better at their age. 40s isn't old and a lot of people don't look old because they really shouldn't look old at that age.
linds360 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he may have eased up on the makeup over the years. I'm not sure what the motive behind that would be, but his skin looks less fake in picture 2.
There was nothing particularly memorable about it. It was blown way out of proportion.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:04:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guess I'm the only one that thought his aggressive stance on sesame street's big bird was way weirder. But hey, I'm not one to judge mormons.
FuzzySAM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a Mormon, I'm kind of personally offended that he identifies publicly as a Mormon. It has taken and bent the stereotype in a direction that, in my experience, isn't true to us.
Also, random question: what ever came of the RICO charges against him?
No, don't you remember? That was the willful ignorance we used against Romney to get Obama elected twice. It's a dirty job but someone has to give Iran nukes.
say_huh ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:01:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the first picture notice the blurred natural sheen. This is a telltale sign of (crappy) photo manipulation. Second picture seems accurate, though taken at an awkward moment.
Source: Photo retoucher. Common industry practice is to add highlights back in to a photo after the skin has been smoothed.
This was my thought. Went way way overboard with the skin smoothing on the forehead. This is very bad photoshop retouching. Looks like the auto skin-smoothing "enhancer" some smartphones come with.
Ichiroga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, that effect is disgusting and so so obvious.
arienh4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, this looks a lot more like crappy (video) compression than deliberate retouching. Lot of fade and artifacts, and it would've made sense to touch up the veins too if it were.
There are certain topics that are off-limits to comedians: JFK, AIDS, the Holocaust. The Lincoln Assassination just recently became funny. I need to see this play like I need a hole in the head. And I hope to someday live in a world where a person could tell a hilarious AIDS joke. It's one of my dreams.
To me this is a far more accurate representation of the wear of office than the one of Obama. Even though it's likely Lincoln had a disease he was a man who hardly rested thanks to the ravages of war, the loss of his favorite child (and the second lost within 12 years), and the instability of his already demanding wife. I've always felt even without the assassination Lincoln gave his life to serve his country....
Well with hair like that, I doubt Trump really cares if he looks like a leather handbag.
Sonendo ยท 276 points ยท Posted at 14:45:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
John McCain ran for office in 2008. Many people were worried that if elected he would not survive and we would have his Vice President take office (Palin).
This was 8 years ago. He is going to be 80 this year. He is still currently an acting member of the Galactic Senate on Coruscant Earth.
You do in my experimental political system. You have a 4-year term of being the Emperor. You get unlimited power, you do not have to deal with pesky oversight committees, congress, or people telling you no. Because the last remnants of the Republic of the United States shall be swept aside, and the regional governors shall have direct control over the states.
Keeps people from starving, gives people something to do. The military is just a bonus. On top of having a system where the only major political figure is elected every four years, you have a decently sized military to help keep the borders secure and to keep order and peace within the country. Otherwise, we end up with the failed system of the past. I think people would prefer that we have one person in charge of everything than have two branches that do nothing but fight each other.
zeekaran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure this would have worked better a few hundred years ago than it would today.
The countries with the strongest and oldest public institutions are the countries with powerful legislatures, weak executives, and lots of public debate and argument.
If you suppress debate, disagreement, and argument from occurring inside of the official government process, the disagreements and disputes don't go away, the arguments still exist, they just play out on the streets rather than in the legislature and are more likely to become violent in nature leading to worse consequences for everybody.
Gram64 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:46:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But couldn't the Emperor use his powers to abolish the 4 year Emperor law?
Yes, he could. But then that would be the wrong move to make. There is no law saying how many terms he can have, nor will there be. He can have as many terms as Emperor as he wants, or as long as the people vote for him anyway. Then after a while, he'll enact emergency powers that will allow him to have the position indefinitely.
That depends on the political system of said empire, the word emperor doesn't have anything to do with how your take power. The Holy Roman Emperor was an elected office, if you happened to be one of the electors, you absolutely did vote for an emperor.
Well, you voted for a king, and the pope made said king into an emperor afterwards, but same thing really.
zeekaran ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:34:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was really just making a Monty Python joke.
You don't vote for kings.
piggbam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Soviet Russia, u dont vote for the emperor, the emperor votes for u!
zeekaran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually the idea behind representative democracy. I don't think Russian emperor's follow the same rules though... I mean, can you imagine asking an emperor to vote on something?
Actually, the Holy Roman Emperor was elected for hundreds of years.
TheDrode ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to be king.
Ronald Reagan was also 69 when running for president (snicker), and people gave him grief about his age, and he lived to 93. Carter is 91, George H.W. Bush is 91, Ford lived to 93, and Nixon lived to 81. Johnson died at 64, but he also smoked heavily and gained a lot of weight after the presidency, which really messed with his heart.
Yeah but a lot of people now believe you can find signs of Reagan's developing Alzheimer's as early as '86 even. So he may not make for the best example of an older candidate remaining hale and hearty.
MattyH ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:34:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that his aides increasingly provided him with note cards to coach him through phone calls and live speaking events. His memory was really going downhill fast at the end of his term.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, but I think it goes beyond just people worrying about whether the president will literally die, but rather whether any issues relating to advanced age (dementia, energy, disease, etc) could impact their fitness for the job.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think people are worried about what would happen if we suddenly had a skeleton in charge.
Well if you get to be president on less than a million dollars let me know.
omegian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being merely alive versus being physically, mentally, and emotionally fit for office are entirely fucking different ballgame, right? Reagan was deep into Alzheimer's in his second term. Not a good fit for office, even if he lived 2 more decades.
Reagan was deep into Alzheimer's in his second term.
You have a citation for that one other than anecdotal evidence and analysis two decades post-term that use vague circumstantial evidence to suggest it? He had a diagnosis in 1994, and while there were symptoms suggesting his progression in the disease before then, that's worlds apart from saying he was deep into Alzheimer's between 1985 and 1989.
omegian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His son says so? His wife informally assumed a lot of his duties? His doctors opened his skull in 89 and noticed the disease but didn't formally diagnose him at the time because it was an emergency intervention? Concealing a disabled president isn't a new thing, see Wilson.
Brio_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:35:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it? How well do you know about the stress of being president? People talk about the stress of being president as if they know what they're talking about. With just as much confidence I could say it isn't too stressful at all. Most days are just bullshit politicking which most presidents would have been doing anyway. Not every day is 9/11.
And you're talking as if you know what you're talking about, ignoring the fact that the President deals with diplomats, other countries, long term planning, the military, congress, their own party, traveling constantly. Even if "most days are bullshit politicking" was true, the sheer repetition and things to keep track of would be utterly exhausting.
Brio_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:16:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I kind of implied the fact that no one can flat out say how stressful or not it is because most people haven't been president.
I'd say you can look at the myriad of books written about it from the inside perspective and conclude that the job is pretty goddamn stressful. Look at the list of responsibilities of the president and look at the list of responsibilities of a senator. They don't compare, that's what I'm talking about.
Xuldun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, he didn't get elected. If he had, it may have been a whole different story.
McCain should thank the American voters for saving his life.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That wasn't just because of his age, it was also because he had skin cancer a couple of times, and because both his father and grandfather died of heart attacks.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, it seems that all of the commentary calling Reagan too old for office has magically been erased overnight. What an odd thing.
sbd27 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:06:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More proof we will never have a 'Gen-X' president. By the time the Boomers relinquish power the Millennials will be in charge.
I want my EXTREME President!
Pretty high probability of dying or becoming incapacitated or seriously ill. The death or disability of a president is a pretty rough thing to go through as a country and I'd rather not.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's an issue if they choose a competent VP. McCain...did not.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sonendo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:52:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can I ask why the age of the person in office matters?
I can see not trusting dusty old beliefs, but in Sanders' case he has always been rather progressive, even by today's standards.
I could see being worried about health and the possibility of death, but it isn't like the President doesn't have health insurance. They have access to some of the best doctors and treatments in the world. I would think that we could keep them alive.
Look at some of our previous presidents. Many lived to be quite old, and this was before all the advances in modern medicine. Hell many of the original 10 presidents lived to be 80 or more. And they were born in the early 1800's when you could expect to get leeched.
Your second point is way off. You can't always keep someone alive even if they're the president. Old people die. They don't always last as long as GHWB or Carter.
Jesus. I hate how people rag on him. Honestly- unless my man Bernie gets elected i'm going to be pretty nervous when the new guy or gal steps in there.
aviary83 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:59:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like him or hate him, goddamn that is a stressful fucking job.
His age actually will affect his campaign in terms of his VP. People will be thinking more about the guy who's a heartbeat away if they're honestly worried about that heartbeat.
He looks old though. Hillary and Trump have probably both invested in their looks because one is a woman in the public eye and the other is vain as fuck.
I'm fairly certain he surrounds himself with yes men and as such lives in an echo chamber of his own opinion, never being exposed to reality outside that other than what he chooses to experience. And of course, he only chooses to experience the facets of reality that support him because that's what's easiest to listen to. Criticism is hard.
My point is, he thinks that weird-ass sideways comb-over mullet thing looks good.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This only works if he's running against someone significantly younger than him, like Rubio. Trump is barely younger than Bernie, and looks like shit compared to him anyway.
Interesting, but it apparently can also mean something that's true.
The term factoid can in common usage mean either a false or spurious statement presented as a fact, as well as (according to Merriam Webster and the Oxford English Dictionary a true, if brief or trivial item of news or information
Fun factoid: a factoid is something that sounds true and is passed off as fact, but is actually a factoid.
FaZaCon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't there some factoid that says that the stress of being POTUS ages you faster than normal?
Ya, living as a literal King sure ages the hell out of you. People that run for the Presidency are doing what they love most, living in the spotlight. Then, as an added bonus, they get to live in a grandiose state of opulent luxury that only a precious few have experienced throughout humanities existence.
Always makes you wonder how much horrible shit is going on around the world that we never hear about; or the terrorism that just barely gets thwarted and never makes the news. The crisis in the world that are frantically fixed by just a few people. And in the middle of it a President that is rapidly wondering why the hell they ever wanted the job in the first place.
GWB is right handed. That said, despite lefties only accounting for ~9% of the general population, 40% of the last 16 presidents have been left handed. The number may have actually been higher, but being left handed used to be considered a disability, so left handed kids were forced to learn to write with their right hand.
yaypal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Almost half of presidents since they started taking records have been lefties, there's a huge skew off average in politicians and artists.
Also, the first picture seems more natural for a left-hander? I tend to gesture with my right, but maybe that's just me.
No matter what your politics are, you gotta hand it to the guy for having the gumption to take on what is no doubt the most stressful job in the world. Cheers to you Obama!
Aracnah ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:57:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe, maybe not. They're all shit. Every last one. I used to be really into politics and stayed current, and I do still follow world news, but goddamn; as a political moderate (socially liberal, fiscally conservative), I feel like there is literally nobody out there with a legitimate shot at winning that really coincides with my own views. Thing is, being as most Americans generally skew towards the middle (slightly conservative, actually, last I checked), that's how it is for the majority of the American population. The Executive branch, at least, is no longer representative of the will of the people, and it's fucking sad.
Fuck. The only thing I can do is mind my own damn business and manage my own life as best I can. I'm gonna keep doing that; it's working out pretty good right now.
Now I feel stupid. Your answer was really interesting.
Explain one thing to me: what do you call a medical service not affordable? Can you give me an example?
I need to pay for my medical care, of course. But from what I heard, it is really expensive over there in the states.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think many people dislike him as a person.
Well, conservatives don't love that he's black...
Interus ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:24:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One thing you have to respect about Obama is that dude's has had to stomach a lot of personal attacks unrelated to policy.
If you think about it, he's been the de facto representative of black people in the US. And he's represented his people proudly. He's been a class act with day one, even when his detractors have swung low. It probably takes a lot out of you to keep your chin up and always take the high road when your instinct tells you to call people out on their shit.
Pherras ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:39:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This probably takes 2nd in most dramatic changes of a President. I would say Lincolns is still the worst , he looks literally like the life was completely sucked out of him , understandable though. FDR is bad as well but he was in his 4th term when he died so not really fair to judge him with the same standards as the others
Damn, even his wedding ring looks a little more worn for wear. 8 years later at what must be one of the most stressful jobs... I'd say he's looking just as good as any other president after 8 years.
N_D_V ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:09:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to see a side-by-side of a normal middle-ages man after aging 8 years
They picked the worst possible picture. He still smiles and cracks jokes. Being potus would surely have negative consequences, but he's also 8 years older.
The weight of the world has been on those shoulders.
And the haters never ever let up.
I think he is the finest president in my lifetime.
And I am OLD.
To me, he has done a great job.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You must be old enough that your mind is slipping then if you believe that.
Insert joke about covering up for Hillary's lies here:
Obama was in over his head. He was not great but I do not believe he didn't put forth his best effort. 2016 will be big. I think both Bernie and Trump would do our nation well because they're hard workerrs who would walk into the White House minus a long list of people and special interests they owe favors to. If we can avoid a Hillary presidency, we will be good. The establishment's rule may finally come to an end and the people may finally take our nation back.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:58:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trump? Really? We would be the laughing stock of the world.
alexLAD ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:24:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He'd be bad, yeah, but then you guys would want someone left really badly after, so in the long run it would be good.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha I like your thought process, Trump is shock therapy for the american people
That is such a soft, pathetic, PC argument. Why do you care what the rest of the world thinks? Of course they aren't going to be crazy about a President who has our nation's best interests in mind and not necessarily theirs. Trump won't allow any Syrian refugees. The "rest of the world" wants us to take them all. The "rest of the world" would love a President who resembles their nations ways of thinking but considering how much of them are fairing pretty poorly, they are not who we need to be following. We need to be leading the American Way.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:38:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How's this Trump is a moron who advocates reckless foreign and domestic policy that is not only un-American but unconstitutional. He is a loudmouth who likes nothing more than being the center of attention and is no more fit for the Oval Office than someone like Kanye West. I dont want Trump because I think he's dangerous, sure he provokes discussion but he does so in the manner of a youtube comment section saying the most inflammatory thing he can think of that panders to his base.
Keep drinking the kool-aid buddy. Grow a pair. He will be great for our economy and he will use our national clout to our advantage. He is a leader, hard-worker and high-energy. He is going to win. In the general election all he has to say is Bernie/Hillary will not be able to get anything through Congress. If you want more gridlock, vote for them. If you want Washington cleaned up, our borders secured and jobs back in our country, vote for me. Game over.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:59:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He will drop out before he gets close the candidacy he's not a serious candidate and you're delusional to think otherwise. Candidates like Trump or Cruz will further cause grid lock by his polarizing rhetoric and uncompromising nature. And once again his polices are un-American.
The fact there are people who 1) think Trump is a serious candidate and 2) would actually vote for him is literally terrifying to me. I feel like I'm in an alternate reality.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Keeps me up at night". Shows how weak you are mentally.
You can find clips of Trump being asked if he would run for President 25 years ago on Oprah. The mantra that Trump isn't a serious candidate was maybe even valid 4 months ago. He is leading in a lot of polls so how isn't he serious? I can argue none of the Democrats are serious candidates because they know they won't be able to get practically anything through Congress. Sorry, I know that fact must hurt. If you are so educated and such a staunch socialist, why not just move to Europe or Canada? They could sure use your help.
Modern day America has a lot of harsh realities to face and having a candidate who is not afraid to address them head-on is refreshing. No more sweeping under the rug
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Herman Cane was also leading in the poles at one point, remember Mr. "I'll only approve small bills"? Haha how am I a staunch socialist? But you're right encouraging university educated highly skilled individuals out of the country is how we stay on top economically. We have nothing close to socialism in this country even our left is center in most western countries. The gridlock in Washington is caused by the polarization of our political system in that regard both sides will have issues especially Trump/Cruz and Sanders.
Who cares? Well, I'd like to keep our allies and NOT have China come to collect the debt that we owe them. They outnumber us. Also, not accepting Syrian refugees = helping ISIS. And no, Trump doesn't resemble our nation's way of thinking, except for the very loud racist and bigoted minority.
Find me one racist quote from Donald Trump's campaign please. Thank you. Literally all the opposition can do is to call Trump a racist because he is right on all the issues, no matter how politically incorrect the truth may be. In reality, he has not said a single racist thing his entire campaign. On CNN the other night the Republican strategist outlined this perfectly and said he will vote Democrat if the Democrat strategist can quote one racist thing Donald Trump has said. Not racist, just honest
Not accepting Syrian refugees, with some already proven to have ISIS ties in our country and foreign countries, in turn helps ISIS in their quest to kill us? OH.
It doesn't have to be in your campaign, though. If someone is a racist, they're a racist.
Before candidacy:
"I have black guys counting my money. โฆ I hate it. The only guys I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes all day." He went on to say "laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that."
Or how about in his campaign... the "all Mexican immigrants are rapists" argument during his campaign?:
โWhen Mexico sends its people, theyโre not sending their best. Theyโre not sending you. Theyโre not sending you. Theyโre sending people that have lots of problems, and theyโre bringing those problems with us. Theyโre bringing drugs. Theyโre bringing crime. Theyโre rapists."
Or how about casually using slurs?:
"Who the f knows? I mean, really, who knows how much the Japs will pay for Manhattan property these days?"
YEAH NOT RACIST AT ALL.
Also, the refugee vetting process is the most comprehensive, difficult process to get through. Pretty sure people with ties to ISIS are going to go through the visa process, which is literally filling out a sheet of paper, rather than a two year extensive background screening. HERP DERP LOGIC DERP
So you've already surrendered the notion that he's racist. That's a start even though 20 minute ago you were crying about how he can't be President because he's racist. How about some context with this comment as well. Everyone loved the comment when he said it because it was the context of him saying his daughter is beautiful, smart, hard-working and driven. Miles better of a human being that most privilege children, a testament to Donald the man and father, but I digress. Years later you take that snippet and it sounds off, sure.
The establishment does not want him to get elected because he owes no favors, is not controllable and will make changes that will hurt their way of operation and life, but will make our country better. These are all people have against him, soundbites taken out of context. I can't wait until we experience the REAL change in Washington I was promised when I voted for Obama in 08 at the naive age of 18
I don't think "everyone" loved the comment when it was said, because I remember hearing it and thinking it was creepy as all fuck. And no, I didn't surrender any notion that he's racist. I gave examples of where he's racist. He's racist. The end. And yes, Ivanka IS better than most children of privilege. That does not make Donald a good person.
Bernie doesn't owe any favors and is also not controllable. He just also has a moral compass, doesn't claim bankruptcy but preach about how he did it all himself while evading millions of dollars of debt but most students can't get their loans discharged, EVEN THROUGH BANKRUPTCY. He is in it for himself, his fellow 1%ers, and unless you have millions in the bank, he's looking to screw you over too.
Totally false. Under Trump's tax plan individuals making less than $20K and families bringing in less than $40K pay zero tax. The top half a percent see a very large increase in what they pay. Just not enough like Bernie wants where they'll move all their money and in some cases themselves overseas and we'll really be screwed. Despite Bernie's berning hatred for the wealthiest and most successful members of our society, the reality is they are also the most important members of our society. Reality will play a big role in Trump's victory this year.
You say Trump's children all being smart and hard-working despite most children of privilege being the opposite does not mean he is a good person. That is true. But it means he is a good coach, a good visionary and a good leader.
Trump is the best of both worlds and a lot of Sanders supporters will ultimately be voting for him vs Hillary in November
Many of them have already moved their money overseas, and it's been that way for years. And no, the most important members of our society are the people who are working overtime every week trying to make our society and economy function and receiving very little recognition, rather than higher-up CEOs who get bonuses for no reason other than the tax breaks the companies get, and spend their work week golfing.
Further, I fail to see anything about how he's going to crack down on the stupid amounts of corporate welfare. He also proposed FOUR tax brackets (0%, 10%, 20% and 25%). That leads me to believe the highest income taxpayers are going to be paying 25%. Currently, they're supposed to be paying in the mid-thirties. So how is it going to become an increase in what they pay? Yes, most of them evade taxes right now, but that's not going to change under Trump. Where would that 10% tax break be made up, since he always wants to give tax breaks to big corporations (that already don't pay enough in taxes).
He's not an economist, and he's not even a very good businessman. Had he invested wisely, or even opened up a savings account that made sense, he would have billions more than he currently does. I don't want that kind of recklessness running our country. And back to the previous point, you say that it doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks of him but in reality it DOES. We have to coexist with them.
And honestly, I'm pretty sure Bernie's going to get the nod.
I think Bernie is as off the wall as you think Trump is. Trump's views coincide much more with what got us to be the #1 nation in the world and Bernie's coincide much more with what the bankrupt countries of the world look like. But at least they were founded on those principles! Trying to make that transition would be our financial demise. He does mean well though so I respect him in that sense.
Give me a guy who will bring money in from other nation's to support our working class and economy, not redistribute it and push us closer to a class war. Agree to disagree, friend.
On the bright side (in more ways than one), at least neither of us is backing HiLIARy :)
That's a fallacy, though. Bernie's views are in line with some of the most prosperous countries with the happiest people! Honestly, his website is full of information on how exactly he plans to get his ideas rolling without bankrupting anybody. BUT he's also for equal rights for everyone.
And yeah, I don't trust Hillary as far as I can throw her. Which isn't far, I'm not all that strong.
Bernie's views only work in small, highly educated countries. Congress will not allow 1/4 of the drastic changes he is trying to make. We are a nation of over 300 Million people that cover the spectrum. We are leaders in many industries. There are going to be very wealthy people in our nation purely by the numbers. There are going to be people who aren't very well off in comparison, but the reality is they are still better off than 75-80% of the world.
You're right about Congress. That's why voting is so important, though, and NOT just every 4 years. And yes, this country does need to be better educated. I just don't think having someone in office who's only ever been privileged enough to pay for it is the way to get there. Tuition, while thousands of times more expensive than it was 30 years ago, is still pocket change to a billionaire. :)
The privilege card with Donald falls on deaf ears with me. He is one of the hardest working men out there. Work is his life and he's always done it the right way (no schemes, no corruption). He's made a few mistakes along the way but predominately has found a lot of success and has created a lot of jobs for our country. He's done business and negotiated with the best and the brightest. In many cases people more cunning and ruthless than the world leaders he will share a round table with. Sure he has an air of arrogance and I think a lot of use would if we shared the same resume as The Donald, but our nation could also use a kick in the pants and a dose of reality. That is the change I think we need in our leadership
I disagree. I think claiming bankruptcy and getting out of millions of dollars of debt is just as corrupt as the next. He has ties to organized crime. He's been sued for discrimination (and settled out of court because there was enough evidence for him to lose). And yes, he might speak it how he sees it, but two things: he doesn't speak for how all of us see it, and people are so enamored by the fact that he's willing to say all kinds of off the wall stuff that they don't pay attention to the content:
Rand Paul: "This is whatโs wrong. Trump bribes all of us. He even bribes Hillary Clinton. Thatโs what he does, he bribes us."
Trump: "Yes, and Iโve bribed you too."
Literally admitted to bribing people (and Rand Paul admitted to taking bribes? Okay...).
Last, but not least, he seems to not give a damn about the constitution and what's in it. There's just so much awful condensed into one person.
Also, sidenote--no, him having a daughter who isn't entitled and is successful does not reflect his ability to lead or do anything, really. If that were true, you wouldn't have families where two children turn out entirely different. Nature and nurture (and both parents) play a role. But we won't get into that debate :)
dapcook ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:41:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yea, I'm gonna keep my politics out of this and just say this.
He looks like a man that is just fucking done and wants to go home.
Boro84 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:45:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the perfect response to those average, everyday Americans who seem to think they know what the president is or isn't doing, or how good he is or isn't doing. News flash to most Americans: You have no fucking clue how hard it is to be the president of the United States of America so you should probably just keep your mouth shut
Wow, this was monumental. Straight up calling out and owning Trump in all but name, and bringing up gerrymandering, money in politics and making it easier to vote. All stuff I don't remember him ever doing. I haven't felt this way since 2008 for real, and am feeling very emotional how much I'm going to miss this guy. And everyone here's talking about how he's aged or seems tired? He's basically promising he will effectively be Bernie Sanders for this last year, I expected this to be a big deal here.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 14:31:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama has taken very little in the way of vacation. There is no real time off as President anyways unlike your job The President doesn't really get to go home at 5.
Wake up sheeple. Obama aged 8 years yet looks like he gained over 20. Why? The answer is simple.
Reptiles age like dog years but even more accelerated. In reptilian years Obama aged 340 years in the span of 8, and it shows. Luckily for him being apart of the Grand Reptilian Chancellor Committee makes him pretty much immortal. When he turns around 94 in human years (he will be 1300 years old in reptilian by then) he will most likely shed his skin and reveal himself to the world. Wake up you fucking idiots. We are about to all be shipped to FEMA camps in Gitmo and have forced abortions while the Reptilian gov't takes our guns and shoots our women and children with them.
Check mate libtards
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:55:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
people are down voting you and taking this seriously
That's what happens when you spend 8 years eavesdropping on people's phone sex conversations and internet browsing histories.
Stickbot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:37:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And we wonder why there's never any good presidential candidates. Can't be too smart to want to put yourself through that. No thank you, I'll take my 9-5 any day.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like when they CGI de-aged Michael Douglas for Ant-man.
TheDrode ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:41:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is, his last one if he doesn't declare himself Godking in the next few months.
hdhale ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:10:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get the feeling that if Obama were president instead of Harry Truman in 1945, we'd still be fighting the Japanese.
Cruz is advocating total war. Obama sweats sending a drone in and accidentally hitting the wrong building. Meanwhile, ISIS/ISIL doesn't give any fucks.
i_donno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
We're the good guys. We should care when a drone hits the wrong target
hdhale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We were the good guys in 1944. That didn't stop us from killing civilians, not because we necessarily targeted them, but because war is hard and people die. Today the likes of Patton and LeMay would be handed over by Obama to the U.N. for war crimes trials. He simply doesn't have the stomach for the hard jobs. Hell, he can't even give a "fuck you, I'll do what I want" speech on gun control without surrounding himself with supporters.
Mind you, people living in the 1940s weren't necessarily better than us, but they understood what large stakes really were and they did not hesitate.
dorekk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:30:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fuck is wrong with you?
hdhale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:02 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The better questions is, "what's wrong with you?"
Your enemy is fighting a total war, you and yours want to go play peace keeper. You'll never win.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:35 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't he still smoke? This would also make him age much quicker.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:52:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, even his tie aged.
havasc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:53:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What a lot of people don't realize when these pictures are trotted out, is that for most of these guys, in their 40s-50s, the natural ageing process is poised to kick in already. Sure it is a stressful job, but you can't tell me that these guys would look exactly the same 8 years later had they not become president.
vo5100 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyway, as a Norwegian, grown up in a socialist country (And as a someone taking a bachelor in renewable energy, and a bit of a leftie), I find the current US election very interesting to follow.
OH, I wish I was on the outside looking in. It's definitely interesting, but with that looming threat of a Cruz or Trump presidency I'm thinking more and more than emigration might be a good idea. It was funny when the Simpsons did it. Reality is much different. Does Norway have any openings?
Hehe, sure... We've had a big influx in refugees this past year, but nothing too staggering. Immigrants are welcomed, as long as you do your best to get a job and contribute to society.
You know... The usual deal :P
onbran ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:01:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ended looking better than JFK
ChaseDFW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:03:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"It's true. All of it. The Dark side, the Jedi. They're real."
Despite some of his failures, I think Obama was the best candidate out of either of his elections. The United States political system is a failure in general. Republicans have fought to make any sort of progress on healthcare, education and assistance programs, and that includes veterans. Combine that with a lust for wealth, despite the already existing wealth inequality, and it's no surprise that Obama has had so many issues. If we had a republican president, the. Democrats would do the same crap to their candidate. There are almost no legitimate people that want to do what's best for the United States citizens, but I do believe Obama actually cares about us.It doesn't help that so many people in this country are racist and undeeducated.
It has to be that they dye their hair and wear make up and then later don't give a fuck. Either that or there is some machine that drains the life out of presidents to make sure the old gods are appeased
katekant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:43:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's confirming in many ways. Here in China, the leaders are so full of botox and dripping from black hair dye that only their growing girth reveal their age.
Every multi-term President looks much older (towards the end of their last term). They stress of the job and seeing the current state of World affairs can age you.
hks9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I understand it's 8 years, at an older age - but man, presidents really put on a lot of years during their stay in office. He looks so young, youthful and full of hope in the left one - and the second one, he looks seasoned, older, exhausted, and just done...
If being president does this to his body, what do you think it does to his mind? I feel like presidents should go through yearly psych evaluation, if they don't already.
sanwa686 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't even a proper representation of his manor at the State of the Union. He was actually pretty lively and cracking jokes the whole time.
I'm late but check out his hands. More specifically, his wedding ring. It was a little loose in the first pic, but I don't know how he keeps it on these days.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow presidents age? Maybe next we'll talk about how water is wet
elint ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
President Putin is nine years older than Mr. Obama, yet Obama appears tired and old compared to President Putin. Obama needs a long vacation in Russia.
Bodegus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wrong pic. He wore a green tie at the SOTU
NeXTBYTE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He should be sad. What a fuck up
g_wax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RMJ1984 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure what it is with presidents. But it must be all the stress of being on 24/7. Because president age like nobody else. It looks like he aged 20 years if you ask me.
Americans don't talk about this fact nearly enough: BEING PRESIDENT SUCKS. It is one of the most stressful and drawn out things anyone can do. Their health and family lives always seem to suffer, beyond the normal things that come with age.
I would never want to be President. If you become Pres, NORMAL LIFE IS OVER. I can walk out my front door, walk down the street, buy milk, and walk back without any reasonable concern of snipers or being recognized by literally everyone. An ex-Pres can't do that without a buttload of security and planning. My spouse will never have a normal ordinary life again. My children probably won't either.
Not to mention my face on protest signs the world over...
While I am fond of Mr Obama's oratory skills, he has not came out as a statesman I assumed he would be. He was hesitant, lacked judgement and made more enemies than friends. Like his predecessors, he won't be missed.
You mean to tell me that all black guys don't age like Will Smith?
Brauney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:18:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hmm If you look close, you see the left one is touched up or smoothed up, while the right one is really sharp in contrast so you can see his wrinkles more.
58king ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People talk about the stresses of presidency a lot, but 8 years is a long time! That is a significant fraction of his entire life, you can expect ageing between 46 and 54.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know how moms look at the end of one particularly shite day with the kids?
Imagine that every day for 8 years, but with 319 million kids and their stupidass friends whose parents live by different rules.
Sorry, Obama.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow it's almost as if he's aged 8 years.
Joksta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:28:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
POTUS... not even once
golf11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can only imagine what Bernie Sanders would look like after a year in office
I'm always amazed when I see pictures of Presidents when they enter office and when they leave. It's always the same. They always look completely beat up and broken compared to when they took office.
TheSnoz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hope Vs I'm over you dumb fucks.
mikerhoa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel bad for him. It's a stressful job, and he seems likely a genuinely decent person after it's all said and done.
I couldn't imagine dealing with the garbage he's had to put up with over the years. There are some truly shitty human beings he's had to placate and negotiate around over his term.
I admire that, but I also pity it in a way...
Kahlypso ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Motherfucker lookin like Gustavo Fring
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I've seen things..." -Obama
netseW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He honestly looks like he smoked about 100,000 cigarettes during his presidency.
p226r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He desperately needs a self-portrait in the White House attic
mcaffrey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:32:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In his 8 years, he gave up more than 8 years of his life in service. He had to take an advance on his remaining years as well. He'll die younger because of taking that job.
smitteh ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:20:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
8 years? We should all be so lucky as to only give 8 years. Instead, we give away 40+ years of our precious time on this earth, slaving away at a job we hate, making someone we don't know richer and richer, while our own bodies grow weaker and weaker, breaking down from constant weight of the work itself and also the knowledge that this is not a life we were meant to endure, yet we must or we will be cast away to starve or freeze to death on the streets.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:08:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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smitteh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smitteh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty tough when you get chauffeured everywhere you want to go, waited on hand on foot for everything you need, and have a round table full of advisors helping you make decisions.
Agnostix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just feel really sorry for how much shit we've made him deal with. I mean heck he's had to hear so much of what the human race has done as a whole that he's ended up looking so tired and sad. We caused that, the world caused that.
I don't even see the age as the big thing here. look at the man's eyes. His first SotUA I can see the expression on his face is filled with hope. Things have just changed hugely in America with his election. Now he looks defeated. Like he's tired of trying to change a country that's determined to go down with the ship...
rough.
JimDuche ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:42:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So many excuses for Obama. "This is what happens when you have to deal with Congress for 8 years" and "This is what happens when you deal with Republicans...". Young, misguided, ill-informed redditors seem to forget that "we" (all of us as a whole) elected Congress and they are only doing what we are asking them to do.
"Obama can't get anything done with this Congress..." Correct. And that's how checks and balances work. The voting public of this country put a Republican majority in Congress this term. There's a good fucking reason for that: the country as a whole doesn't like what Obama has been trying to do. Check his approval rating if you don't believe that.
You may be forgetting that a huge number of the population live in poverty, are uneducated and have very little legitimate education on political matters. Many of the people in the U.S based their decisions off of television news, which is controlled almost completely by 3 corporations. It doesn't really matter how we vote if we aren't given an honest representation of a candidate.
I have educated myself on a lot of candidates for president, senate and congress because I am young, have access to the Internet and am in school getting an education. My dad is hardcore republican who votes against ANYTHING democratic on principle. He doesn't use the Internet, he doesn't educate himself on real issues or legislation just like many others. Democrats do it too, but none of it really matters when media only cover the candidates that have been produced to appear a certain way.
How can we expect people to vote smartly when they aren't educated, they likely can't afford Internet, or otherwise have been socialized to accept whatever their family accepts or what not?
It's hard enough for someone who is somewhat educated to focus on one candidate. I agree that it is Americas fault for voting in a crappy congress,mbut at the same time the system as it is is designed to benefit those with power and influence. You can't expect poverty stricken people to become masters of political science overnight.
Whatever way you want to spin it, Congress has not been working to the benefit of the U.S. Citizens, so it doesn't matter that they were elected or not. They are actively working against American people, while Obama has at least tried to work on solutions that have a middle ground.
All in all, the situation sucks.
JimDuche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't say America voted in a crappy Congress. You think Congress is actively working against the American people but Obama is not, right?
Think about that for a moment. Many people think the opposite of what you just wrote. It's subjective based on which way you lean. You are likely young and idealistic but don't sell your dad short. Between the two of you, he has a whole hell of a lot more life experience than you do. Pretty much everything you know, you learned from the internet and the internet is filled with mostly bullshit.
I'm actually in college, have been working since high school, and have educated myself on actual issues. My dad says racist crap all the time, he is a self proclaimed Christian who has never read the bible or attended church, doesn't pay taxes and could not provide for his family. My dad and mom had to be on assistance programs. Hr doesn't research any candidate that isn't a Republican candidate. I'm not selling my dad short, he does that himself. If Obama was a bad president, than I don't know what we would call Bush. Either way, my dad believes that Reagan was the greatest president of all time, the guy who ushered in the age of ruining unions, education, healthvare and family wages amongst the American people.
I still love my dad and family who are like minded like him, but their opinions on decisions that affect my future are worthless to me. I have been screwed over by him and his generation, and all he does is complain about millenials being entitled, while ignoring all the issues they never had to deal with. My dad had the opportunity to go to school, buy a house, find a career, buy a car, and go to the doctor if needed without facing financial ruin.
I didn't say Obama is perfect, but he attempted to implement a healthcare system. I doesn't work well, and that's no suprise, but he isn't trying to be the loudest person in the room and saying that the majority of people in the population don't deserve healthcare.
Lastly, the reason why our congress is so crappy is due to the blatant corruption in almost every aspect of government, as well as banks and corporations controlling and lobbying legislation. If these people actually cared about the American people, 5000% price gouging wouldn't exist for a life saving drug. Education costs wouldn't be skyrocketing along with healthcare. Congress voted against planned parenthood, they always vote against increasing veteran benefits, as well as equal pay for women. I'm not sure how you can't see this as working against Americans.
Young, misguided, ill-informed redditors seem to forget that "we" (all of us as a whole) elected Congress and they are only doing what we are asking them to do.
Which "we" were the ones always harping on them to vote themselves salary increases because their income clearly isn't stable enough and doesn't cover cost-of-living increases?
the country as a whole doesn't like what Obama has been trying to do. Check his approval rating if you don't believe that.
Pretty weak. Even when you think you know something, you have to research the shit out of it because media coverage is a circus that performs for ratings, not a service that exists to objectively disseminate balanced coverage to the public. A lot of people dislike the president because they're ill-informed, and honestly, a lot of people may really like the president because they're ill-informed.
It's easy to get an approval rating. It's a hell of a lot harder to objectively qualify why the approval rating is what it is when people are swayed by marketing conglomerates rather than factual or unspun data.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Young, misguided, ill-informed redditors seem to forget that "we" (all of us as a whole) elected Congress and they are only doing what we are asking them to do.
More Americans voted for Democrtic House Reps than Republican House Reps in 2012, yet we got a Republican House. It was absolutely not the will of the American people for congress to obstruct the president.
That wasn't part of the quote. "If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan". Nothing about minimum requirements. It also doesn't take into effect that 7 million people lost their insurance because employers dropped their plans. This was a direct result of passage. Let me go further on his bullshit:
โNo matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American peopleโฆ If you like your health care plan, youโll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.โ
โHere is a guarantee that Iโve made. If you have insurance that you like, then you will be able to keep that insurance.โ
And here's the real jewel frmo Obamacare:
โI will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits โ either now or in the future. I will not sign it if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future, period. And to prove that Iโm serious, there will be a provision in this plan that requires us to come forward with more spending cuts if the savings we promised donโt materialize.โ
WaPo reported immediately after it was signed into law that Obamacare would add $340 billion to the deficit over the next decade. Then the CBO came out in 2012 and said it would cost twice as much as what Obama initially promised. And it keeps going up.
I can go on if you'd like. Obamacare is not even scratching the surface.
Turns out that black, does, in fact crack. You just need the weight of the country to do it.
Goose506 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This poor guy wanted to do so much good. Whether you agree or not with his ideas, he just wanted better for everyone. Held back by old fashion boys club in politics and big sector business.. That's the face of exhaustion from the amount of stupidity he's put up with.
The-Qing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:41:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, Obama. You did all right.
Tsaiw ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A kiss on the forehead for trying~
RIP Obama
src88 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:58:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"We used to watch Presidents decay before our very eyes from month to month and even week to week on national TV - except for Nixon, of course, who thrived on power the way that a vampire bat thrives on blood, and Reagan, who seemed a little too stupid to get old. I guess Gerald Ford was that way too"
The Judge in Stephen King's The Stand, 1990
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:53:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Americans don't realize how good you all have it, like f.d.r he has obviously given his best years of his life and health for the country. Be proud, much love from Australia.
How did you expect him to look after 8 years?
Reality check: In the years from age 48-55, your hair will gray; the lines in your face will become more pronounced; and you will look older. It doesnโt just come from worry and stress โ it comes from aging.
Look at George W Bush. That guy took more vacation than anyone, rode his bike two hours a day, didnโt worry about a thing, and still he showed signs of aging.
TLDR People get old. It happens.
Daforce1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
schm0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had the pleasure of meeting the President and shaking his hand a few months ago. The picture on the right doesn't do him justice. Sure, he has a bit more grey on him, and a few more wrinkles on his face than before, but his eyes are still just as lively and his smile contagious.
ride-mx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess 7 years ago the graphic arts department liked him.
I'm confused on why people still care what a president says in any state of the union talk. Of course it's going to be all unicorns and rainbows, happy talk, nothing to worry about. They never say anything significant.
ohno2015 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Selling your soul to the devil will have it's drawbacks, additionally being specifically responsible for the continued 'collateral' deaths of innocent Humans (as high as 80% of drone deaths being innocent people) through the usage of indiscriminate drone warfare probably wears heavy on a thinking/feeling Human being.
Blowing people up with drones for 8 years really takes its toll.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:08:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
getting attacked by ignorant racists can take its toll, too.
Zynac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:20 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you even know what racism is?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:23:43 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's when a person judges an individual based on nothing more than the color of their skin, the slant of their eyes, or the nation from which their great-grandparents came.
I've heard more people hate on President Obama for his skin color and his "muslim" name than for the decisions he made as President of the United States. The people who do that aren't all that interested in politics- they don't care about parties or fillibusters- they're just upset that a, (and I can't even bring myself to use the term,) "N*****" is president. THAT is racism.
Lets be honest guys... That could honestly just be 8 years worth of aging. 46 to 54 can lead to many changes, and presidency or no presidency this could happen.
Ryan8731 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:46:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly what I was thinking! 36 to 44 with that change would be shocking. But 46 to 54 looks about right.
I mean, presidency definitely doesn't make you younger. But I wouldn't be shocked if this is what happened naturally over 8 years. Heck my own father lost most of his hair got quite wrinkly over the same period.
"We made you! Bow down to us and accept our lifestyle or be lonely!" -Obama
Miotoss ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 14:23:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I regret voting for this man twice.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not too big into politics, but are you really down voting him because he expressed his opinion in a civil way?
Tsaiw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A wild idiot appeareth
Donkface ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It's a shame you're getting downvoted for merely expressing how you feel about having exercised your right to vote. The libs cannot stand anything that disagrees with them.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:21:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I checked his history first. There's no way he actually voted for Obama twice.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 14:50:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't facebook
din35h ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at his fingers, you can see how much weight he's lost, look at the difference in his ring finger now and then, it looks asif it could literally fall off.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These comparisons come up every month. I hope all who post these witness the seamless shift from their mid-forties to mid-fifties that they believe they're entitled to.
Xenjael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's amazing is most people who were president live to be very old. So despite looking like this, don't be surprised if he's around for another 40-50 years.
I wonder if there have been studies done to try to isolate whether the aging is due to stress or simply the point in their life when a candidate becomes president. I mean, if someone were elected at 22 and served until 30, would we see such a dramatic aging effect? Seems like most presidents don't become president until their 40's or 50's. That's around the same age where some dramatic changes can occur in terms of aging appearance.
Still, hard to shake off the feeling that the presidency really does prematurely age people. The stress and the lack of sleep seem to do a real number on people.
Since they legally can't hold the office til 35, they tend to all be in that midlife crisis age when first elected. Youngest to hold office was TR @42... Your body really changes physically between 35-50, the added stress really must have an effect as well.
I'd love to see photos of "normal" people, from these two days and see how they differ.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
jiarn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good god if Bernie Sanders were to win two terms....
RazorRex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw an article when he was first elected that showed the toll and what he'd look like at the end of his presidency. They were spot on with the aging. The stuff we have no idea about along with what we do must be insane.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you look at the last 3 presidents, you will see the same aging occur... it just proves that job is soul sucker... party affiliation does not matter... not an enviable position to hold..
This is why I hesitate on Bernie. That man already looks pretty old. Put the Presidency on his shoulders? I'm not sure he'd make it past year two with all that stress.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same issue people had with McCain, they thought sure we elect him, but he looks ready to croak.. and then what Palin?? FUCKKKKKK NOOOOOOO
I'll definitely give him props for the whole (extremely played out) POW thing, but that doesn't really make up for his lack of a domestic policy too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:07 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see it from both sides, putting Rep/Dem rhetoric aside. Was there a need for some time of insurance program, yes there was. People forget when insurance companies stopped coverage just for using it too much. But when there's no cooperation, because of rhetoric and idealism... no one will succeed, its a no win for anyone.
I definitely don't forget that time. Even though I didn't benefit from the expanded coverage for young adults, I did benefit after my COBRA had run out for a year and I couldn't afford a new plan since I was in school with no employer benefits. Luckily I have a plan through work now, but the law helped bridge the gap.
I totally agree with your point on cooperation too. People also forget that there used to be tons of cooperation between both sides, and stuff actually got done. Not everything, because that's not how cooperation works, but many things are much better than nothing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:12 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed, put the rhetoric and the BS aside.. Politics today see, more WWE than compromise. i give Obama respect for at least trying... for so many years all politician on both sides said they would try... but to qoute Yoda.. there is not try.. just do.
If you look closely, his tie has a trend from his right going upwards to the left! In the first pic it was his right index finger, in the second pic it is his left index finger. I think Beyonce was right, everything in the box goes to the left!
Reminds me of a joke Seth Myers did at the correspondents' dinner on year:
What happened to you? Everyone was so excited when you were elected. The celebration in Grant Park for a young and vibrant President easy electric! Now you look like Louis Gossett Sr.!
Cannot fathom the stress he must have gone through.
dmr83457 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
damn... looks easily 7-8 years older in the second pic
UPRC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is. :p
ITSRNH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That hairline is smiling for Obama now.
kp86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well at least the eyebrows held on
Pugovitz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know, Obama sure has started leaning more to the left towards the end of his term.
Talanoa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
still hasn't gotten through that binder
bookon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was 43 when he became president and look almost exactly like my pictures from that time. It's crazy what stress does to you. I have friends my age (50) who look 60 and some who look 35. Maybe I'll go downhill in 5 years, but I think it has more to do with lifestyle (and genes) than anything else.
TMoney67 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what's your secret?
bookon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love the work I do, don't smoke or drink more than a couple drinks a year. I work indoors, so I don't have sun damage. Also, I have been told I look 35 since I was 25. I looked older then and younger now. I'll take that trade.
jander99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's the thing people seem to forget. There's 7 years difference here. Seven years in late 40s and 50s changes everyone in a similar way, regardless of how much perceived stress they take on. I'd say he fared better than most.
Saint453 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The face of a man that knows the cure to aids and secrets of Area 51, but can't tell anyone.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Johknee5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its amazing what the power of the darkside does to peoples physical appearance. In Obama its not as obvious as some previous presidents. But certainly, in his eyes you can see it the most.
jeez, look at what we did to his skin. first year: aglow with health and vitality. final year: sallow, drained, gray...the energy has even gone out of the small muscles around and under his eyes, and the sides of his mouth.
The American flag lapel pins in both pictures let me know he's not a terrorist. Thank god for those handy lapel pins. /s
Did anyone else remember that that was thing upon seeing them?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe that most of our presidents wanted to do the right thing, but lobbyists and money get in the way. The age from the stress knowing doing the wrong thing.
Evning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i wanna see a female asian president.
given the stereotype, she probably needs booster seats to give the last state of the union.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The change in the workbook he uses to store his notes is the most fascinating/revealing in my opinion.
Take any person 45 and older and let them age 8 years.
People always posts these before and after pics of presidents, and while I'm sure they age more than your average adult, I bet it's not as bad as depicted.
Some of it is the presidency, yes. But let's not forget 8 years is a long time for a 46 year old man. Most people will change a lot from their mid forties to their mid fifties.
Being president is brutal, here are some pictures of presidents before and after their presidency. Yes he's 8 years older, but the biggest difference is not the wrinkles, or the hair, it's that he just looks really really tired. They all do.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These pictures are often shown for the presidents as evidence of how tough the job is. I'm not saying the job isn't, but I think these photos are misleading.
President Obama was 47 when elected. He is now 55. Look at pictures of anyone in this age range and you will see similar differences. This is a range when people seem to cross over into old age and appearance changes quite a bit.
Tefur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess that means if Bernie Sanders gets elected, he's gonna just be straight up dead.
The president is actually volunteering for a host to the alien parasite that invented the fed, that's why they all age so fast. Not the stress of a whole nation weighing on his back. Aliens.
eg_elska ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason, someone edited a photo in 2009 of what Obama would look like aged. It's pretty close.
It also sort of seems like the photo on the left in the original post is either good lighting, or is edited. He looked young back then, but not that young.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As much as people want to piss all over America as leader of the free world, that as an awesome responsibility that it bears.
Every day, whether millions wish it different or not, he made decisions that impacts the world. You can see the cost of just 8 years of that
E_aley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Say what you will about the President but that microphone held up very well.
Idk if I'm looking too much into it but the choice of tie color really affects the vibe he gives off in my eyes. The white and red feels like it's full of energy while the black and blue feels like he has experience and wisdom and shit.
Valtieri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how much of this is also due to effort involved. Surely a new president, eager to prove themselves, is going to put forth a greater effort at things like makeup and whatnot.
1st year of presidency? Yes, add the makeup, I need to look like a flawless icon, a true leader!
7th year of presidency, no chance of further campaigning? Let's just do the bare minimum here.
Boliechr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years and I've never once heard anything about his birthday
All that lying has taken quite a toll on his body.
phz10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man time goes quick, can remember it like yesterday when he was first elected as President watching in Australia. Maybe he can ask Brad Pitt for the stuff he's using..dude looked like he was in his 30's at the Golden Globes.
You probably live it the fuck up while you're President. You get the best seats at shows, eat at the finest restaurants, see the most beautiful sites worldwide, and get to experience things most people dream of. Yeah, the stress is next-level shit that will rot you inside and out, but the fun is probably amplified to match.
Also scotch. Lots and lots of scotch.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My god. He looks like eight-years older or something!
Can't believe he came to presidancy in 2008 time just flew on by.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would imagine that launching a thousand cruise missiles in just a few days would probably take a toll on your heart. Right or wrong hes directly responsible for a tremendous amount of dead.
Jinmasu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always like looking at these and seeing how the 8 years weighed in on them. Bush and clinton were two unique ones as well.
hiljanen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
do presidents of united states take meth regularily?
The color change is so drastic. Whoever selected that gray didn't do him any favors
Extify ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seems to me he doesnt look too bad. Eight years is eight years. Especially the age he started, 8 years make you age regardless.
gentimmy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like 8 years of difference at his age is more noticeable period
Bobcat13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Forget politics: Look at every recent president at the beginning and end of their terms and see how they've aged. This has to be one of the most stressful jobs ever.
Pherras ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed I went and looked at a few and Obamas is pretty dramatic the only one that seems as bad as this one is Lincoln and his before and...well before he was assassinated looks like a freaking zombie , guess your country literally ripping itself apart does that to you though. FDR's is bad as well but his he had just started his 4th term when he died so its over a longer span than the others.
A lot of people talk about how presidents' appearance changes in 8 years and then compare them to Raquel Welch at 80 years old, but I think if you look at most 35+ people, they look way older in that span. I think it has as much or more to do with the fact that by the time you can become US prez, you're right there at the precipice where people start to show age pretty rapidly. Sure stress seems to age people but I don't see how this is dramatically different from my dad between those years and he works for a cable company.
Dubbya aged much more drastically. Billy also went more white.
Of those, I think Bush aged the most. I think most of it happened during his first term too; say what you will about him, but being President during 9/11 can't be easy on your mental and physical health.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never really thought about it before but just imagine how fucking stressful being a head of state, or head of a government, must be.
sightlab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's been 8/10 of a decade. Welcome to your future, kids: shit gets real in your late 40s.
Jryitoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How to add 30 years to a guy in the space of 8 years
Catorak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there vampire hiding under the Whitehouse or something? Because seriously, all your Presidents end up looking like they've had the life sucked out of them...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
kjbetan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There may be some photo manipulation here, because the US flag pins don't match colors. It could also have to do with different lighting conditions or the camera that is used.
adeadart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it is almost as if he has aged in those 8 years!!!
His face does definitely look older, and I'm sure his hair has gotten more grey than it was 8 years ago, but a teacher of mine in high school who was friends with him told our class anecdotes about Obama, one of which being that during his 2008 campaign he used hair dye to darken his hair and appear younger.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also I would wager that once someone becomes president they are more likely to want a bit of grey showing in order to look more 'presidential'.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
as have come a long way it seems, the noise reduction does not seem as bad in the second image, or maybe the first image was doctored to make his skin seem smoother/younger
This is why I don't understand why anybody would want to be president. A job that's so stressful that it takes a very visible toll on one's body. No matter what you do or say, about a third of the country will hate you, just because of the (D) or the (R) next to your name. For the rest of your life, your freedoms are somewhat restricted (can't go anywhere or do anything without secret service scouting the location to give you the OK). And the money isn't that great. A salary of $400,000 a year sounds pretty good to most people, but compare that to the salary/compensation of a CEO of a company most people have never even heard of.
Seems to me that the most desirable thing I'd want out of a president is the intelligence to realize that it's a job not worth having.
Positive facial expression on the left, negative one on the right. Went from 46 to 54 betweeen photos. What did YOU look like 8 years ago? No different? The only major difference is his hair grayed, but his hairline actually seemed to lower itself a little bit.
FWIW.... This is one of the reasons Hillary won't win.
She's too old looking. ESP if the R side comes down to Rubio the head on debates won't be able to hide it.
I mean, the 18-28 crowd that came out for young Obama... They aren't fow Hillary (for good reason!), there isn't the support for Hillary and the Obama elections weren't landslides.
But it's her image. She'll just never get the same support.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like the difference of America as a world power in 2009 to 2016
wajikay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black does crack.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We all have stress in our lives, especially with the American standard of living going down the toilet, and most of us tolerate a good deal of stress at work, too. Do presidents have above-average job stress? Probably. On the flip side, when the White House's septic system fails in the middle of January, he doesn't have to take 2 days off from work and unexpectedly pay someone $2500 to drill through frozen ground to get in there and fix it. He similarly doesn't have to worry about his own 17-year-old daughter getting to and from school safely every day because a fleet of trained government agents are seeing to that. I believe it probably all balances out.
Hmm, something about being the leader of the most powerful nation on the globe seems to have some kind of effect on a man, almost as though it were a fairly stressful job.
Huh. Whaddya know about that.
kourikat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NemWan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidents seem to age a lot in office but recent ones seem to live a long time after leaving office. The most recent president who died before turning 90 is Nixon (he was 81) and two presidents are alive in their 90s.
Johnson is the most recent one who could be said to have been done in by the anguish of the job, gaining weight and un-quitting smoking and dying at age 64, just 4 years and 2 days after leaving office.
It's because of the time spent at Bohemian Grove. It ages them more than normal, kind of like when Moses went up on Mount Sinai, saw the burning bush & came down noticeably changed.
This goes to show that stress and health are very intertwined. Recognize what my previous job was doing to my health and choosing to quit because of it was the best decision I ever made. And thats why at 36 years old I still get carded for alcohol at most restaurants.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your job involved having your plans and ambitions in the hands of Mitch McConnell and john boner (i didn't spell that incorrectly), you too would look like that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Solid and consistent sleep is possibly the best thing you can do for your body. The lack thereof for only a week makes people look not as well. Now take that week and and multiply it by 8 years.
These guys don't get good sleep for their entire term. Obama can't ever really relax. He lives at work. Sure, the WH has its own quarters but he's not known real privacy for 7 years. Compare pictures of McCain from 2008 to now. He looks basically the same.
It's baffling why anyone would want the job. It's as if these guys have an existential crisis and want to be remembered in history so much they're willing to toss good health aside
kem7xf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People like to talk about presidential aging, and sure, stress probably doesn't help. But 8 years between late 40s and 50s, you're going to see significant changes on everybody
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay lets do a control group. We will go back in time and sabotage his votes and in 8 years we will see if his hair changes colors. Get on it scientist.
ax255 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks beat...
Dire87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Almost forgot how young he looked 8 years ago...it's staggering. I haven't really changed much in those 8 years...
frustman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Working a leadership position now. No doubt I get more sleep than he does, but I've already had several bouts of illness as a result of my lack of rest. Don't envy the man one bit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
Inbredit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He pledged to go down swinging, forcing change through presidential decree rather then due process. He is setting a very dangerous president for our Country.
drtapp39 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This man has heard some serious shit and done some stuff... I wouldn't recommend it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep in mind, these guys are aging 7 years during the time in life when you really start showing your age. Yes, you can pull up actors who do not show this....but I bet if you looked at pictures of your parents at age 45 and again at 52...you would see almost as much difference.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to the era of HD photograph. Everyone loves to hate the president, but man it looks like he's been working hard.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, now I don't want to be President, that stress aging though
First pic, all excited about "Hope" and "Change"... Second pic, the cold reality of an entrenched system where politicians are puppets to the global elite has set in, while giving a lackluster speech on "American Superiority" even he doesn't believe.
Polar87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone is going on about how he aged, but i find it more striking how he goes from having this really hopeful "I am going to change things for the better" appearance to an appearance that is more indifferent and slightly depressed. As if he discovered the reality of being president.
Being the president has certainly taken it's toll on Obama, but the right picture isn't a very flattering pose for him where the left one is. If you actually watched the speech you'd know he doesn't look as "tired" as this picture would suggest.
brk1yn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
goatlll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We always see the pictures of the presidents accelerated aging but I would like to see how vice presidents looked the day they started Office and the day they left as a control group.
N9Nz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
left is a wax figure, the right is HERBS from Jamaica
Jessori ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie became grey.
L4V1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All those hidden secrets and conspiracies that want to get out are making him older. Ahh poor obama. Just go out like a man and let truth be heard about lies and corruptions for the sake of man
Rivenzin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Although he has aged quite a bit its made seemingly more so by the picture on the right being of much higher quality. The wrinkle detail is very apparent.
He changed to using his left hand, as before he was using his right. His tie, which was red, is now a blue one. We see the transformation from republican to democrat.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Nilfy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do the tie stripes all go the same way? Obama's and Biden's both slope the same way. I noticed this last night, and this picture adds another one to it, since it show's Obama's first address.
Is there a reason for stripes going that way as opposed to the other?
kajenius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't care if I agree with your policy positions as president or not. The position commands respect. I salute you Mr. President for serving your country.
A couple of things, the age of most presidents in that 40-50 year range when they take office, well men age considerably over 8 years during the 40s and 50s. Whether president or not, there are some huge differences.
Taking bets now. Does he move Marijuana out of schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act on his last day in office. (yes the executive does have the authority to do this)
iodian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he would be a total ass for waiting 8 years to do it.
Wasn't there a post a couple years ago with a bunch of presidents at the beginning of their term and at the end of their term - all looked you in beginning then really worn out at the end?
He's obviously aged, as you do. But the pictures have different lighting and colouration, they've chosen slightly different expressions (the second one catching him with his eyes more closed and not smiling), and he's not as groomed (eyebrows look tidied up in the first). The second one is even closer up to highlight all these things. Not much to see here.
Having been around a while, I'm always amazed by how much our presidents age while in office. So in this thread have claimed it is just normal 8 yrs of aging, but I think the stress takes its toll. I'd like to see a side-by-side of our the last few presidents and their unsuccessful challengers over the same 8 year period. I think you'd see a bigger difference in the ones who were elected.
Except Ronnie Reagan. He didn't seem to age at all while in office. Of course, he was already as old as dirt when he was elected.
NnerdD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The color temperature is changed so he obviously looks more sombre on the right. You can tell by the color of the American flag pin on his lapel, assuming they don't change those regularly.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency ages you to pretty quick. The stress of the country and the world on your shoulders. Look at W after his 8 year term, looks just as a tired.
A similar pic was posted like a month or two ago that looked basically the same. I bet if anybody else posted this pic, it wouldn't hit the frontpage but since one of the biggest karma whores did, there was no question it would.
jomo777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget, he did grow 8 years older...That typically makes a huge difference on a person.
When your about to say something and your friend interrupts
goask ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Con. Law professors are so naive. He actually thought Congress would go along with his plans to help so many of the very people who hate him so much. He has more patience than I could have.
jabbaji ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's an eight year difference, of course he looks older. Also, the left picture looks like he is wearing make up, versus the right picture where he looks like he really doesn't care about that anymore.
He rubbed an onion on his face to make him look like he'd shouldered the nation's problems.
itsNOSAJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a really shitty picture. Could have picked a better second picture making him look more lively and still get the point across that he looks older.
snsmth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his suit has slightly greyed.
tcoots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can someone imagine up a Bernie Sanders before and after?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't let the door handle go up your ass on the way out.
havek23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just look at JFK's presidency, he looked fairly young when he started and before you knew it; dead.
Kingspot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a comparison that isn't so purposefully polarized.
bryxy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what it did to me too....... PUT AWAY THE PITCHFORKS - it's because I transitioned into my early 40's, so it took him longer to get gray than me!!
Roman420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His "first" version is actually still preserved in a holding tank, the current one is a reptillian in a skinsuit. The skinsuits degrade faster than normal human flesh does, hence why most, if not all, presidents look drastically older in just 4-8 years.
Or something like that, I'm just fucking around. Presidency is a bitch, man.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would not want that job, i thought my job was stressful.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll never forget the time I saw his face after he resurfaced from his first debriefing with officials after taking on the presidency. He looked like someone just told him that the earth was going to blow up in 12 hours. Some harrowing looking expressions on his face.
I totally get that being the president is a stressful job.
But you people do realize these pictures are like eight years apart, yeah?
Like, someone his age, with children mind you (most of the stress you have before you deal with children really becomes small beans) is obviously going to look older after eight years. When you factor in having ANY sort of stressful job, then no fucking shit he looks the way he does.
It has nothing to do with being the President, and everything to do with just being a human being who is getting older.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This in an unbalanced comparison!
At least show him young and in bad mood or old and in good mood.
Btw, the whole from-to picture range is nothing else than dating a girl the first times and later married her. Youยดre not campaigning anymore, you know :D
On the left is a man who wants to change america. On the right is a man who knows who killed JFK and knows what goes on at area 51 and can't tell anybody.
toxic181 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What would have he looked like had he not been president?
He was a red beacon of hope, and they made him take the blue pill
Dirkooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think of all the stress and shit he's had to go through. I honestly believe he has been a great president, who has tried very hard to stay true to his promises. He brought us our of a recession and has done a lot of reform that has needed attention for a long time. Battling through Congress is another mess, and he didn't get everything he wanted to get done, but I think he did a damn good job compared to his predecessor.
I really don't know if I have a good sense of how someone "should" age in 7 years. My expectations are from Hollywood, where people are highly professionally motivated to freeze their looks for as long as possible.
It always feels like Presidents age poorly, but you could convince me that this is an illusion, and that they're aging like perfectly normal humans that Hollywood isn't spending millions of dollars on to cryogenically freeze. We don't notice it with friends because the effect is so gradual, but I wouldn't be surprised if most of us have this significant a difference over any 10 year span. Or maybe not.
nvpc2001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to see a before and after of Bernie if he wins
DemonB7R ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I despise him and his policies, but never will I say he didn't work hard. POTUS is probably one of the worst jobs in existence. At times, literally the weight of the world is on your shoulders and your decision in the next 10 seconds can change millions of lives forever. The stress is so bad. Hell someone should post pics of Clinton and Bush at their first and last SotU's. The change is probably just as striking.
This turned into a Goodfellas thing and I love it. Shoutout to Obama when he said that thing about the only people who will have a long term job with retirement benefits and health benefits and everyone laughed. The look on his face was priceless like he was saying "this shit isnt a fucking joke!" They hate him so much lol.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is what women do to you. They suck the life and soul out of you!
That is a great comparison and very revealing to what the president goes through. Funny thing is, he will look younger once he leaves office. I don't envy the position of the president.
He looks so old and tired now. He had some pep in his step back in 2009, and he looked so young, now, he just looks like he's ready to get out of there.
When you realize he has been gaining hairline, not losing it.
Thumbs up!
LMFO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For as much shit everyone gives every president, there's no way to truly know how stressful that job would be. The amount of things they have to deal with on a day to day basis pretty obviously breaks down your body. I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't mild forms of PTSD after their terms are up.
malaihi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stopped the hair dye?
MZA87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, you mean a man looks older, grayer, and more wrinkled at 54 than he did at 46? BULLSHIT. /s
I look a lot different at 28 than I did at 20. And I'll look a lot different at 36 than I do at 28.
And let's keep in mind; whoever made this absolutely took the time to find the best possible still from his first, and the worst possible still from his last, just to exaggerate the point.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man I hope Bernie makes it one term.
arickmc1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow! Who would have guessed that being president would cause change of handedness
All these people saying how 7 years of aging will do that to a person are right. But that's not the point. 7 years of aging doesn't do THAT to a normal person's eyes man.
Besides the 400K paycheck for the rest of your life. Along with all the multi million dollar book deals and all the kickbacks you get from the wealthy contributors of yours for the rest of your life. Not a bad gig if you ask me.
pchampn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A little love from your friends does that to you
big_fig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So if we get Bernie Sanders into the white house, he's dead after his term?
Zenopus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What we need to finally end this debate is a set of identical twins. One wins the presidency, the other goes about his life normally. (Don't ask me how) Then at the end of term, we compare them and see how much is normal aging and how much is the presidency.
rabdas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Switching of his dominant arm for gestures? The 80's child in me says this Obama was replaced by alien lizards sometime ago in order to turn us into food.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My old man used to talk about this effect on presidents. Sometimes I wonder if it's just the fact that 7 or 8 years have passed, not some kind of stress transformation.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what happens when you give your soul to Satan.
/sarcasm
DrSuviel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one who thinks he actually looks better now than when he started? Maybe it's because he's become aged and world-weary these past 8 years, and so have I.
Yeah, right? People say the stress and everything ages you faster, but it's been 8 years. That's damn near a decade. You try looking the same after that much time has passed!
Someone should do one of those AI age detection things on these images to see how much they say he has aged.
Isolatte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine 2-3 hours of sleep per night and whatever drugs they secretly give to presidents to make them look like they're wide awake 15 minutes after getting out of bed, can take a toll on a body.
its 8 years period...stress, healthy or unhealthy lifestyle choices like smoking, excessive drinking, drugs, lack of sleep all play a factor. but he looks like day one "Ready to take on the world", day 2920 "Aint nobody got time for this shit".
Br4586 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DAMN!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so a new tie?
ndixon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow.... Same Haircut. Dedication
mainrift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Request! Please!!
Can someone please do a photo shop of what the people running for president would look like in the same split screen before and after. Hilary, Bernie, and Trump. Should be funny....
Obama Jr. thought he could handle the Presidency, but he was mistaken. In the same way that Daddy swooped in and took over the payments on his 2006 Chevy Malibu when he proved to be too irresponsible to make his car payment on time, so too did Daddy swoop and and take over the remaining terms of Obama Jr.'s Presidency.
xiiliea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So 8 years ago he was right-handed and now he becomes left-handed.
This is largely a function of term length and age at one's first election. Take a look at past presidents. The younger they were when elected the older they look at the end, especially if they served 8+ years.
austuhnn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another one
Luca20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm with Joe Rogan. Maybe after you get sworn in they just show you all the aliens and shit, where all the nukes are, who killed JFK. And this is what it does to you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, what is the expression in English we use to convey the feeling about how time drastically changes us as in this case? Time is a cruel bitch? Or anything else?
No kidding please. Thanks.
Oister40 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe you're thinking of time is a cruel mistress
Yes, that's it. Thank you. It seems that "Time is cruel" or "Time is a cruel thing" is also often used for this situation, though yours is the best.
What's the name of the rhetorical device which has two usually antagonistic words placed together like your "cruel mistress" and also "living history"? ...moron?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Optimistic/Defeated
dan42183 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like he never sees the sun anymore, he'll probably look slightly younger again in 2017-18, or at least less stressed. Bill Clinton and George Bush both looked younger a few years after being president again.
Yeah, we get it already. Besides always using the least favorable photos for the "after," we also need to remember he's been President for EIGHT YEARS. People tend to age in age years.
Shock!
It is an impostor! It must be, just look at how he changed his main hand and aged like that.
I wonder what his birth certificate says about whether he is right or left handed.
What a great time to be alive, folks!
I remember there being an AskReddit thread asking something along the lines of "What job would you NEVER do?" and someone said POTUS because of how much Obama has aged during his presidency.
Hes burnout, done, scared, there is no relief from what he has seen.
nyr21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What I find to be really interesting, but coincidental, is that his right arm is up in a photo with him wearing a red tie, and his left arm is up when wearing a blue tie.
dublbagn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
damn, I hope this is shopped. Looks like a succubus was part of that 8 years.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, what the fuck happened to him?
Forget the lizard conspiracies, we should be hunting vampires in the white house.
chooglin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's either really run down, as if he wore it almost every day, or someone has applied some sort of lighting effect to make Obama appear more pale. Would probably help show how he has aged... or made it look worse than it is in reality.
Askezza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did he get bigger?
EwwieImp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It took him a long time to switch hands
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone done a before, after, then 8 years after that to see if they look better or it was just natural progression? I mean I looked totally different at 8 than I did at 16. And at 30 I look considerably different than 22.
revnasty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Held on to fifty as long as he could
Hope and change arrived with great care
Hang around and keep mentoring he should
Price paid with touches of grey hair
Slyons89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:31 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his finger is wrinkled. I always wonder if presidents frequently use large quantities of amphetamines like Aderall in stints of high pressure, for the greater good. Doctor prescribed, of course. The job must be so demanding.
1mca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:26 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't think that his look wasn't and isn't completely intentional.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:57 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years will do that to anyone
1mca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:58 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agree'd as well. Either way it's a pointless argument
In the first picture, he just got done campaigning. They probably spent a decent amount of time and money making him look young and handsome (especially because he was marketed as a fresh alternative to the old white farts who'd previously held the position). After re-election, there's no need to keep up appearances.
And American soldiers. Escalating American troop strength in Afghanistan from 32,000 to 100,000 for a year and a half was a brilliant idea. . . for me to poop on!
Except the draw down from Iraq (which Bush agreed to with Iraqi leadership) and the surge in Afghanistan were points Obama ran on. They were part of the promises he made the American people.
He kept his promises when he was able to.
Fen1kz ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, your guess is wrong. 7 years - that's what ages you :D
I gotta say - I'm proud to have voted for him (twice.) Sure he's been controversial, and didn't come through on some promises - but he's also had to deal with one of the most hostile congresses in the history of this country. I'm a proud Obama supporter and I just hope President Sanders is equally as awesome (spoiler alert, he already is.)
He has to deal with a hostile congress because he is not a Uniter. His language and rhetoric are divisive. He's never been a real leader for this country. Most people see him as a leftwing pundit who serves his ideology before thenAMERICAN PEOPLE. His approval rating is so low, it's almost at the carter level. Even the president that he used as a scapegoat for all his problems had higher approval rating than him.
I'd venture to say your bias was showing by accusing my statement of having any. I find playing golf, visiting Martha's Vineyard etc, for any president hardly classifying as work.
Jeez imagine what will happen to Sanders if he becomes the next President. I mean, It will probably kill him. He already looks old. 4 years of Presidency and he will probably look ancient, of he even makes it.
dogmob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I see the top 10 root comments are about his looks or similar jokes. Haven't found a single comment about the hugely exaggerated figures that were used in the speech. Well done reddit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the pic of US navy surrendering to the Iranian Navy is really reflective of his presidency. Also the liberal circle jerk surrounding the removal of Arak core, which later proven to be false, indicates the desperation of his followers.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:11 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Here's one for ya. Go fuck yourself.
That's the best you can come up with? I should have expected as much from a troglodyte such as yourself, lacking the wherewithal of thought that you do.. But I was hoping you would surprise me. I was wrong about you, you are no idiot. Idiocy is something you should work on, and one day you could possibly raise to the level of "blithering idiot", "innane dunce", or "advanced moron". Keep trying, dream big.. One day you will get there.
You're a complete fucking idiot. The more you message me, the dumber you portray yourself. Please stop before you make yourself look more foolish than you already have. Go get some pussy and relax, or in your case, some dick.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:08 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't need a piece of ass at the moment, I have been making you my bitch for days.
HA!! Please, if this is what you call making someone your bitch, you have to get out more. You've lead a structured life living in your moms basement.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:51 on January 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When someone can only come up with "get some dick" and "you live with your mom" as witty jabs, isn't it obvious? You have no skill for the barb my friend, either that or you are mentally challenged. I do sincerely apologize if you are handicapped though. Don't want to make it seem like I get a kick out of picking on the less fortunate. Feel free to return to licking the window, or whatever it is you do to occupy your time between coloring sessions & eating paste.
It's always a pleasure to read one of your replies. It makes me laugh when you think I'm brainless and mundane. Take care, I hope you get pleasure thinking you're smarter than me. Not sure why it matters, I can go on for days and days if you want. The fact is, you're boring and uninteresting. So go on and lead your lonely, useless life. I hope you find happiness instead of contemplating suicide on a daily basis. Just remember, when you're taking a bunch of pills or choking on a pistol because you can't just find the gusto to live anymore, I'll be wishing you made the right decision.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:29:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What I think is a shame is we broke an incredible milestone by electing our first black president but yet our first black president turned out to be an incredible failure.
I find this sad as he has probably hurt the chances of the next black man who DOES happen to be qualified from being elected. Obama has pushed back the progress of race relations by decades.
Wow. Not sure what it would take to be successful if you consider how much of his agenda whether or not you agree with it he actually got done.
Agenda he got passed during his term:
Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility and Disclosure (CARD) Act
FDA Food Safety Modernization Act
During recovery extended unemployment insurance and cut payroll taxes
Initiated a $15 billion plan designed to encourage increased lending to small businesses.
Affordable Care Act
Weak and I know pretty much symbolic Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act giving the federal government more tools to investigate and prosecute fraud of the financial system
Weak and symbolic but best congress could pass at the time Doddย-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act in 2010
Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
Bailing out and in reality possibly saving the US Auto Industry
Student Loan Reform
Middle Class Tax Breaks as part of the Recovery Act
Lifted restrictions on embryonic stem cell research
Took out Don't Ask Don't Tell - gays open in military
But wait everything sucks right in the economy? Hold on.
Dow Jones is over 16,000
Unemployment under 6%
GDP Growth 3.5%
Deficit GDP 2.8%
Consumer Confidence 94.5
From when he took office under crisis during Great Recession
1) Borrowed nearly $10 trillion with nothing to show for it
2) Economy so weak for 7 years that it took borrowing $10 trillion AND zero interest rates just to keep the economy from collapsing
3) Lowest labor participation rate in about 40 years
4) Record part time jobs replacing full time jobs due to the failure of Obamacare
5) Most companies closing and LEAVING the U.S. due to increased taxes.
6) Record numbers in poverty and on food stamps.
7) Highest percentage of unemployed workers 6 months or more since the Great Depression
8) Median incomes FALLING (the FIRST time that has ever happened over the course of a presidential term)
9) Domestic policies failed leading to nearly 100 million of working age not working
10) Foreign policy failures all over the globe
11) Failed policies where our allies don't trust us and our enemies do not fear us.
Altogether, accounting for both the TARP and the Fannie and Freddie bailout, $618B has gone out the doorโinvested, loaned, or paid outโwhile $390B has been returned.
The Treasury has been earning a return on most of the money invested or loaned. So far, it has earned $294B. When those revenues are taken into account, the government has realized a $65.4B profit as of Jan. 11, 2016.
2) Economy so weak?
"The graph above compares annualized quarter-over-quarter GDP (gross domestic product) growth in the US, Japan, and the Eurozone over the last four quarters.
Last year, the US (IVV) was the only bright spot among developed markets (EFA). Its GDP grew at an annualized rate of 4.6% in 2Q14, 5% in 3Q14, and 2.2% in 4Q14.
Meanwhile, the Japanese (EWJ) and European economies (IEV) were grappling with recessionary pressures early last year. The annualized growth rate in Japan was -7.4% in 2Q14, -2.4% in 3Q14, and 1.6% in 4Q14. The negative growth in the second quarter was mainly due to the hike in its consumption tax, from 5% to 8%. In 1Q15, however, Japanโs GDP grew at an annualized rate of 4%. During the same quarter, US GDP grew by a meager 0.2%, although in fairness, this figure was affected by temporary factors.
The European economy has seen tepid growth rates since the financial crisis. Nevertheless, it has been showing signs of recovery over the last few months. The Eurozoneโs annualized GDP growth rates were 0.4%, 0.8%, 1.2%, and 1.2% over the last four quarters, respectively.
While the Japanese and the European economies seem to be improving, the US economy still seems to be in a better position than the rest."
"What does it all mean? The fact that a majority of labor force opt-outs are students or retirees from high-income households suggests that the recession wrought less damage to the U.S. workforce than was initially feared. Those people will either go back to work or would have left the labor force anyway. Still, the growing number of disabled workers indicates that the recession did inflict some permanent damage to the American labor force, and this could take years to repair. "
Is that Obama's fault in particular? I don't think so.
5) Closing and leaving due to increased taxes?
US effective corporate tax rate is 12.6% while at the same time having one of the highest corporate tax rates of any other industrialized nation. 39.2% if you take state taxes into consideration and 35% otherwise.
However, outside of tax hikes related to the affordable care act I do not see where any major additions to the corporate tax structure have been effectively passed despite a lot of talk about closing corporate tax loopholes especially those involved with keeping corporate money overseas.
6) the number of people on food stamps and in need for federal assistance is a failure for administration and I totally agree with that as well as ..
7) Highest percentage of unemployed workers 6 months or more since the Great Depression but you have to look at the long-term unemployed closer to see who has truly given up and who have effectively retired out of the system see point 3)
8) I agree with this but increased not decreased spending according to many sources would have helped this more investment in businesses and infrastructure take this source as an example.
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Household income growth under four American presidents
Economic Mobility
Income Distribution
U.S. Government
U.S. Politics
U.S. President Barack Obama (C) is joined by former U.S. Presidents George W. Bush (L) and Bill Clinton (R) in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington while speaking about disaster aid to Haiti, January 16, 2010.
The conventional wisdom about the American economy is that, in spite of the recovery, middle-class Americans are still hurting. Moreover, the conventional wisdom is that the decline in middle-class fortunes has been going on for decades. But a new Brookings paper from the economist Rob Shapiro upends the conventional wisdom, offering a more accurate look into whatโs been happening to Americans and their pocketbooks.
Shapiro does this by taking advantage of new Census Bureau statistics which report household income by age. There are significant advantages to looking at earnings by age instead of in the aggregate. For instance, the conventional measure of aggregate median income covers all households from the teen years to 64. So it captures millions of people who are still in school and millions who are partially or totally retired. The measure is, as Shapiro points out, a messy one, which changes over time thus making it hard to see whatโs really going on.
The advantage of looking at income by age cohorts is that, as we all know, incomes rise as we age and get more education and experience and then they tend to level off or decrease as we get older. And so, looking at incomes by age cohort gives us a very different picture than it does when everyone is lumped together. For instance, as Figure 1 shows, aggregate income from 1975 to the present looks pretty flat. But people who were 25-29 in 1975 experienced pretty healthy gains in their incomes as they aged, as did young people in 1982 and 1991.
Shapiro_Growth in Median Household Income by Age
Shapiro then looks at income growth by age for the past five presidents and finds that the โโฆlargest average annual gains in median household income occurred during the Clinton and Reagan administrations, with a clear edge to Clinton.โ As figure 2 illustrates, young people in the Reagan and Clinton years saw their incomes grow right into middle age. The contrast with the Bush and Obama years is stark. Under those two presidencies income growth is lower for young people, small for those entering middle age and negative for those in the 45-49 year age group. No wonder our recent politics has been so bitter. As William Galston notes in another Brookings paper, โEconomic stagnation means a continuation of gridlocked, zero-sum politics and a turn away from the spirit of generosity that only a people confident of its future can sustain.โ
In other words, this canโt continue.
Shapiro_Annual Growth of Median Household Income
"Shapiro concludes that โour current problems with incomes are neither a long-term feature of the U.S. economy nor merely an after-effect of the 2008-2009 financial upheaval.โ Nor are they driven by โeconomic impediments based on gender, race and ethnicity, or even education.โ He identifies two structural causes; globalization and information technologies. But he also asks us to think about what Reagan and Clinton did that the two presidents of the 21st century did not do. โThe Clinton and Reagan fiscal approaches supported stronger rates of business investment than seen under Bush-2 or Obama. In addition, their support for aggregate demand included public investments to modernize infrastructure, broaden access to education and support basic research and development.โ"
Remember these are all things listed above that Obama proposed but the legislature would not back him on.
9)
See point 3) again.
"So that means the critics of the administration are right, and people are dropping out of the labor force at an unprecedented pace? Not so fast. A lot of the people dropping out of the labor force are just, well, old. Thatโs because the demographic bulge known as the baby boom generation is aging out of the workforce."
Does this mean the number of truly discouraged workers are not too high? No, it is too high. And that is a valid criticism.
10) Foreign policy failures like opening up Cuba? The Iran deal which was the best chance we had outside of going to war. Yes, they have been failures especially in how the Arab Spring was handled and Libya yes especially Libya.
11) Wait, military strikes killing 17,000 ISIS personnel so far according to wikipedia this one shocked me btw. Making the call Clinton did not to authorize military to take out Osama Bin Laden. Yes, I hate it too when people act like Obama ran over and shot Bin Laden in the head personally. Increased drone strikes? How many Al-Queada and ISIS leaders have died in strikes during Obama's administration before conservatives understand our enemies do fear us. The money strike just reported yesterday is another great example of that.
Just to add one more link in summary pretty fair on failures and wins:
The only people who believe this are the ones who don't really understand how the US political system works and just attribute all the problems they see or things they disagree with to the president and calls them failures.
Most republicans don't consider bush Jr. a failure despite loads of shit happening during his term. And comparatively, if Carson ends up primary and wins, many people would consider Obama a success.
If you're honestly the kind of person who believes Obama made specific choices because he is black, rather than because he's a democrat and has a specific set of beliefs, I'm sorry but you really shouldn't vote because you don't understand how it actually works.
So bascially, Obama made white people prejudiced against future black candidates? No worries though, they will vote white people into office no matter if they are good for the job or not!!
Imago90 ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 15:54:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:37:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is not something I want to feel sorry for them about> They raise billions o' dollars and fight and lie and grovel for 2 years to get there and then it ages them a little. The good thing is the Franklin mint will have a plate with their picture on it!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:32:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly why I don't think Bernie could make a full 8 years. He will barely make it to 4.
seasond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie's been fighting the good fight for decades already.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a bit different being a Senator than being the President.
It's actually over THREE times a month! What a truant!
BTW, Eisenhower played 800 in his eight years, and Wilson, who was president during WWI, played 1200.
potato1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:50:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, everyone knows it's impossible to get any business or negotiating done while playing golf, an activity often undertaken by business executives in order to improve their relationships with clients and get extended blocks of time set aside to negotiate deals.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:30:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FOX News?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:41:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:04:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yes because getting out of the house once or twice a month is insane.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:27:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guessing you didn't actually watch him address the nation last night... it's not about whether you like the guy but it IS your patriotic duty to be politically active. Don't reprimand someone and give no actual evidence as to how he's done nothing when last night he gave about 50 examples of the good he's done.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:46:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let me guess, Gun control was one of them. Letting Terrorists into the country AKA Refuges was that one of them also? He has done NOTHING but take from the Middle man (ME) and give to the worthless (You) Ever notice how the more gun control they put in place, the more violent crimes that take place? Hmm. I would rather put a cheese grater to my nuts than listen to that idiot speak about anything.
Because bush fixed absolutely everything he touched
/s
Why do people insist on believing it's the individual who makes the decisions and has so much power, when really it's the political party the president belongs to. Being president isn't like being a king where you control everything and people do whatever you want
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the hell does Bush have to do with my comment? Bush fucked up plenty by kowtowing to the political establishment. Obama's socialist and narcissistic ideology on top of him kowtowing to the political establishment is getting people killed and sinking the country faster than any other president. Face it, Obama's a loser and smells worse than dog shit!
seasond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Parrot
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:39:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not just 2nd Amendment. He loves suspending habeas corpus and spying and illegal monitoring of US citizens. He loves the Patriot Act and shits all over the constitution.
Most hopeful new [Insert Important Job Here] will actually use makeup or hair dye to appear young, energetic, and ready to get things done; while incumbents will forego that whole thing to show they have experience.
Obama is a secret muslim and he has acheived his goal of Islamifying the West. America isn't has bad as Europe, but Obama will go down in History for moving over 10 million fundie Muslims into Europe/America.
May Allah bless you.
tispoun ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:41:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Part of me thinks that Obama didn't really know what he was getting himself into when running for president or that if he had known that this how he would look like
OnThis ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:45:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like he went from rep to dem (which I know he didn't) because he is wearing a red tie then a blue one. Also the hands he using in each one makes it even better
Damn...being the president is rough. I don't think I would have the guts to do what he did so courageously. I love Obama and I thank him for all he's done for the country.
Literally every president elected since the invention of photography has looked older after their term is up. Guess what happens after 4-8 years of stress? You look older. It's not rocket science.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:34:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you're saying 8 years of time passed, and he's now in his mid 50s and looks older? gasp.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:46:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone will look older if you take a bad picture of them. It's all in the lighting. Look at the first pic, it's been smoothed over to make his skin look better. The second pic was taken when his eyes weren't open all the way, making him look bad. Of course he aged, but most of this is just good photo/bad photo.
Name one way he's enforced gun control... he hasn't. Congress won't let him. At this time we haven't accepted any refugees. You're just making it more and more clear you really have no idea what you're talking about. Go ahead and be mad over things that aren't even true.
bud299 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:14:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude got large.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:24:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad to know this change happens slightly later in my life than in most. My family has a history of lifespan and I think the aging that people go through around those ages are the cause of their early deaths. Just as an example my great grandmother lived to be 99 and her sister lived to be 102, they were completely independent until death with no real health problems.
Up until my grandmother was about 70 she didn't look much older than 35. When I was 18 and she was 65 people would say things to her like "Your mother is really funny" I would reply "My grandmother" to get the shocked response "But..shes like 35 maybe 40" I would reply "No shes only a few years away from 70"
Just as an example I get carded fucking everywhere I go. I've been accused of not being the person in the photo when I have a beard, and have actually been turned down for alcohol sales WITH ID (which really pissed me off.)
The best part about all of this is I'm going to be functional until I die. The worst part is I'm probably going to out live everyone.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:05:25 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
That's not why the debt is so high lol wtf. You literally can't be any more wrong about everything you've said. Every single thing. It's been like shooting fish in a bucket. Honestly, start reading things that matter or go back to school. For your own good. You're going to open your mouth about politics IRL and people are going to double over laughing. I'm saving you some embarrassment.
The entire Iraq war cost 1.7 trillion. Obama has racked up over 18 trillion since getting into office. Just fuck off dude. Go back to school and take some history courses and teach yourself how to look up basic info on Google if you're not sure on something before you say silly shit.
con77 ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 16:11:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
rotting from the inside. sucking satans cock takes a toll
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
When Obama first took office we were in the worst economic crisis since the great depression. Today we're in the middle of 70 straight months of job growth, the first time that's happened in decades.
True we were in a crisis beset by greed and irresponsible policy set forth by wall street and politicians, on both sides of the aisle, and while true we have had 70 months of job growth, let me hit you with a little knowledge.
endprism ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:23:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
7 years of constant lying and murdering people with drones takes a toll.
Err_Go ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 22:44:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, destroying the constitution really takes its toll.
MrBobDob ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Photos of facial expressions while talking... I bet you could find a shot from the first where he looks exhausted and a shot from the second where he looks hopeful.
The grey hair and wrinkles I can't explain though. Wizards?
Edit: \s for the last line. Fairly certain it has something to do with the passing of time, not wizards.
smitteh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They grey the hair on all presidents after a few years in office. They want them looking vibrant and youthful and full of energy in the beginning when they arrive, and then looking older and wiser like a silverback later on. Happens every time
Zyclunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Regarding wrinkles, the first pic is badly filtered, has the artifacts of agressive noise reduction.
Wow, a person ages in 7 years...who knew? He simply topped using hair dye. He doesn't have to now. He's already the president. He only had to try when trying to get elected. Also, he does look a little whiter. Maybe he has the same disease Michael Jackson had.
Ok, I'm wearing my 6th grade English Poetry hat right now but there is some deep metaphorical shit right here. The picture analysis is themed "Inversion."
Here goes:
-Let's start physical. The use of his right arm and the his left arm. It's showing his change in nature and how he's shifted his dominance. or something like that
-Colors. Notice how precisely inverted his red and white tie is with his blue and black one. It's a perfect inversion of these colors in the color spectrum. It signifies his change from being a sweet sugar cane to someone who's been roughed up.
-Finally there's the binder. The white signifies the optimism he has for the future being the first Black President and all. The black finder juxtaposes this. It shows the transition from his naive to pessimistic sate. Nothing changed during his administrative years.
-Colors again. The person in the background is clearly a racist. The blue tie signifying his opposition towards the elected president. The red white tie symbolising his feeling of savory for the new president.
Assuming you're under 25, there's not much competition - some people will argue you have to go back at least to Bush Senior for the last better than average president. Bush Junior was an idiot who wasted every shred of political capital he was gifted with 9/11, and Clinton , while a savvy political manipulator, comes/came across as too sleazy, even before Monica Lewinsky, to be great.
Oreotech ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:26:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You could also dispute whether GW Bush was even elected.
lelandoj ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently murder is taxing work! BOOM double entendre!
It's a big old job being the president. Trump has neither the patience nor the maturity to be president. If he did achieve office, then I think he would have a nasty surprise.
On a side note, I think his plastic surgeon would be happy.
RobO2112 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trying to remember all those lies, it takes a lot out of ya'...
xintox2 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well his experience hasn't taught him anything....that speech he gave us he gave us 8 years ago....didn't do any of it.
redjd777 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's a sack of shit.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All those days out on the links have really aged him.
Being an evil, communist, America hating piece of shit appears to really take a toll on a person...
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Forcing two mandates through and costing tax payers $15,540,515.10 USD on vacations looks like it took a mighty toll on him. Can't have anything to do with cigarettes.
Arfman2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
15 million dollars? Isn't that the amount of money the USA goes deeper into debt per minute?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:20:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IDK that may be true as well, but anyone can look up how much we've spent on his family vacations. It's insane.
Arfman2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe, just maybe, his vacation is so expensive because he needs to be protected at all times by 20 odd people.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:42:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, dude. 15.5 million dollars to travel to Hawaii and back. Must be due to the salaries of the SS. SS agents make anywhere from 44-75,000USD per year. So, lets do a little simple math that blows your thought out of the water. We'll take the high number and say he has 20 SS with him at all times. 75,000 x 20 = 1,500,000. 1.5 million USD. That means he would have to spend an entire year of his eight year presidency to make their salaries be any sort of substantial fraction of that 15 and a half million dollars. Oh, but you said 20 odd people. We'll avoid the semantics that you will inevitably whip out and account for 30 agents salaries at the max number, 75,000USD. I also rounded that number up. It is 74,xxx. Again, to avoid petty semantics in your retort to this.
If it was 30 agents it would be 2.25 million USD for their salaries to be covered by 365 days of vacation. As of august 2014, he has taken 19 vacations that add up to 125 days of vacation. So let's extrapolate that to eight years. If he continues at the same rate, he will leave office at the end of eight years with 167 vacation days. Again, I rounded up. It was 166.67. That's not even a half year. His vacations require less than half of 20-30 SS agents' yearly salaries over a period of eight years. So it's less than one million dollars that has been part of his vacation bill to us tax payers.
On top of that...they're going to get paid anyways! They're not hourly. They have a contract. They're going to get paid the same amount whether they are with him or not. The whole cavalry (not even close to it) doesn't go with him on vacation.
You are not even remotely close to being any sort of correct. Literally on another planet. You sound like a college kid who thinks he/she knows everything about everything.
I can't even believe you would justify paying for his vacations anyways. That dude is loaded. He was a lawyer, a mayor, wrote a book that made him millions and millions of dollars, makes 400,000USD base salary, then gets 50,000USD for an annual expense account, 100,000USD non-taxable travel account, and 19,000USD for entertainment. That's 569,000USD per year and will be at 4,552,000USD by the end of this year. Currently sitting at roughly 3,983,000USD. Then he goes on vacation and 15.5 million USD on top of that. So he will cost the tax payers 20,052,000USD. 20 million fucking dollars to be president for 8 fucking years. And he has done JACK SHIT. All he has done is pass a mandate (which is illegal) that ended up making healthcare more expensive and put smaller healthcare firms out of business while larger ones are absolutely struggling...and then this stupid shit with the guns last week with his fake tears on tv. The guy also holds the record longest time between presidential addresses (surpassing president Bush) and he has increased the national debt by a larger amount during his FIRST term than every president before him...COMBINED. If you take the amount of national debt that has been increased during each of our presidents since the inception of this country and add it all together...Obama spent more than that in one god damned term.
He will go down in history as the most costly president...along with the least amount of accomplishments out of any president in our history.
Maybe, just maybe you should educate yourself before spewing gibberish and internet banality, because some people know what they're talking about believe it or not.
Arfman2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:08 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most costly president? Do the numbers on the Bushes please, lol.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:10:19 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you not read? Obama spent more money in his first term than every single president before him combined. You are very ignorant.
Arfman2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:15 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think back which president rattled the hornets nest (Iraq)?
DDDD123 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So glad he will be gone in a year. The token POTUS will be no more.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spineless in both
Arqideus ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt this wasn't intentional. He could have easily colored his hair black all throughout his presidency. He probably just wants to look old and wise as he goes out of office to convince the public he was a wise president and therefore, a good president (since that's what people will assume).
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:50:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 15:05:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I guess the stress of killing millions, introducing millions to poverty, and helping to dismantle one of the freest countries comes down hard on someone. Who would've thought?
Before you downvote- think to yourself: am I downvoting because I am so ignorant as to the effect of the president on the world, or have I deified a corrupt politician?
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 15:36:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really want to go back and forth in a "I know you are but what am I" cycle with an idiot like you, so I'm gonna go and let you simmer in your own stupid juices.
Enjoy your party ruining our country, Mr. Ray-cist.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 14:57:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eight years I was 17 and looked much different than I do now. I -- wait for it -- look older now.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its as if he has aged 8 years after being in office for 8 years! My son just graduated highschool, 8 years ago he was only 4 feet now he's 6 feet. The only logical conclusion is that high school makes you taller!
But... all the old people on my Facebook feed say he's been doing nothing but playing golf!
NeXTBYTE ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:29:51 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People like to talk about presidential aging, and sure, stress probably doesn't help. But 8 years between late 40s and 50s, you're going to see significant changes on everybody
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[โ]blackpony04 1473 points 9 hours ago
You're absolutely right. I'm 45 with older siblings who are 54 & 55 and we look nothing alike due to the difference of that decade. Not to say stress doesn't play a part but everybody looks different than their 8 year younger self at just about any age.
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[โ]tupacsnoducket 686 points 9 hours ago
my dad could pass for being in his 30's all the way to like 53~ then BAM he was definitely 50~, wrinkles, grey hair in beard and head, they weren't even that bad but her certainly wasn't 30~
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[โ]Notasurgeon 463 points 9 hours ago
This happened to my mom. She went directly from her 30's to her 60's in like two years.
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[โ]Kritical02 485 points 9 hours ago
My guess is she went through menopause.
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[โ]jyoocp 1055 points 8 hours ago
Asians
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[โ]Fat_Brando 77 points 5 hours ago
Reminds me of a story...
Friend of mine traveled to Mexico. While drinking at a bar, he mentioned that he didn't see any middle aged women around town. There seemed to only be young, attractive women, or older, less attractive women. No one in between.
The guy on the stool next to him told him, "The beeg ones... eat the leetle ones."
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zearou ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:48:28 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Golfing must be stressful.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:35:52 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They don't really have conventional vacations since they travel with staff and still have daily meetings. Nancy Reagan said that presidents don't take vacations, they change the scenery. Numbers that I have seen have Bush spending almost 900 days away from the White House and Obama spending close to 200.
Ekolot ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 13:58:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cerimo ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 03:13:59 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mother F*&cking SCUMBAG. History will judge him as the nation's worst president, and the most damaging to race issues/ progress.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 18:17:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What has he done in 8 years?! I'm from Britain but the only thing I am aware of is 'Obamacare' I know its something to do with health insurance, but is that it!? He seems to have been a completely useless President, even African Americans seem more up shit creek than before, what has he done for them. And its true about the Teleprompter. In 8 years he ALWAYS reads from autocue.
I have been watching Trump rallies and he speaks with no notes and covers loads of issues. Now I know he is unpopular with liberals but you know what I reckon he would be a 'doer' President, who at the end of his term it will be possible to see what he has done. I think he will sort out a lot of infrastructure as that is what he knows best and thrives on. I can see him giving the go ahead for big house building for poor people, new airports etc. I also think he would be good for job creation. And even though the liberals will kick up a massive fuss if he slows illegal immigration it will have a massive positive effect. First it will slow the rise in Americas population, which is important for quality of life, also it will create higher wages and job vacancies for Americas poor, which in turn will lower crime.
Obama never was qualified to be President, far to young with no experience of managing anything.
He didn't even do Obamacare. The president doesn't have the power to create laws or taxes. Congress created the affordable care act, Obama only signed it into law.
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_Polite_as_Fuck ยท 1887 points ยท Posted at 14:13:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Abraham Lincoln before and after the civil war
__Jenchy ยท 1388 points ยท Posted at 15:28:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What an interesting looking man.
TheEthalea ยท 251 points ยท Posted at 17:06:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always thought he was handsome. No one agrees with me lol.
SHES_A_WITCH ยท 150 points ยท Posted at 17:53:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You aren't alone. I have always found something very lovely about his face. Maybe I read into it because of what I know about war but his eyes seem to jump out of pictures. They are so soulful.
TheEthalea ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:57:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! I feel like he's just a really soulful man.
babyitsgayoutside ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:39:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, you have a point. I don't know anything about the American Civil War, or about Lincoln, but his eyes always stand out to me as well.
It might be something to do with how his brow ridge creates that shadow, but his eyes are really light. I don't know, they do stand out.
IzzyInterrobang ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:06:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now that you mention it, I think you're right. It's the brow ridge. The rest of his face helps too but you pointed out what I couldn't put my finger on.
babyitsgayoutside ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Glad to help, hahaha
Sahnura ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel it. I think, for me, it's just he has a lot of unique features. I love people with rememberable faces, you know, weird noses, face shapes, scars, etc. That kind of thing is super attractive to me, within reason.
MoonSpider ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's just what tintype photography does to people. Not that Lincoln didn't have soulful eyes, he may well have, but the photographic process is why the eyes jump out so much.
PerWup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:17 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's got very calming eyes imo
jbaby6969 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:51 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doot doot
JustAChillDude ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:48:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I seriously don't understand what makes him so ugly. He has very strong/masculine features, i.e. a very strong jaw, cheekbones, and brow. Plus he has some great hair. Maybe it's all just a bit too strong? I dunno.
Tiekyl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's the way his lips sit, personally.
There's just..too much, and they're too far forward.
BlackDave ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:46:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Straight guy here. He looks good. He's got confidence in his look. I want to be like that.
trail_lady1982 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:55:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. I have always thought he was handsome. something with the eyes.
sunsmoon ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:43:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. I definitely find him handsome, moreso in the earlier pictures than the latter. He's got some really awesome, strong cheek bones.
USAuthority ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:56:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Distinctive features are attractive to some.
Jumpin_Jack_Flash ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:08:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup! As a dude, I really like interesting features. My wife has the pudgiest of noses. She hates it. I think it gives her character and wouldn't have it any other way.
I recognize "hot" people as hot, but they all look the same to me.
USAuthority ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:23:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i guess marriage will do that
Jumpin_Jack_Flash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:32 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only been married a year and some change. But looking back, none of the women I dated were cookie cutter chicks.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:43:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it's because you already know that he was a president so your brain defaults to also giving him gravitas that you wouldnt give to an accountant with that face, you know? But also those cheekbones..
chao06 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's also personally iconic, probably more so than anyone in American history since the founding fathers.
CityGirlSass ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:05:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally think he was so handsome! My family thinks it's ridiculous but I wish I was Mary Todd hahaha
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He has a calming look to his face. A look of a gentleman that would be safe to be around. At least, that's what I've always thought.
BuddhaBong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree.. until now I never even realized the popular opinion was that he's not good looking. Must just be a taste thing
PM_me_ur_Dinosaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Straight woman, I think he is attractive. I think he looks like a mix of bill nye and eddie redmayne.
kitkat1313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SAME! I'd probably smash.
TheEthalea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right? I'd be getting all up in that!
KaraMoMara ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I completely agree with you. He has an incredibly striking face.
lordeddardstark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even old Abe himself doesn't agree with you
Belugasaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love his hair. His face is very interesting looking. Not sure I'd say conventionally attractive, but definitely handsome.
[deleted] ยท 603 points ยท Posted at 15:49:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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GeraldBrennan ยท 1522 points ยท Posted at 16:47:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At the Lincoln-Douglas debates, Douglas called him two-faced, to which Lincoln replied, "I leave it to my audience: If had two faces, would I be wearing this one?"
BootyFabricator ยท 490 points ยท Posted at 16:52:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugly and proud... My type of guy
StraightScotty ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:15:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf Lincoln is hot...
745631258978963214 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:24:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a straight dude, I have to agree
llelouch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:31 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd let him inside of me.
JACdMufasa ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:38:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/-N0yXGVWS1Y
MakeToastNotWar ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:13:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SpongeBob?
click
SpongeBob!
SocraticMethHead ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that what he calls it?
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:00:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The type of character that came through the dustbowl and great depression and back.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:03:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...guh?
rowinit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:56:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they meant that he looks as though he COULD have gone through that.... I'm just going to hope that's the case, to avoid having to start some rant about the state of education.
TheKurtCobains ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:01:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice hair though.
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gabethebaeb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:02:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you saying Lincoln isn't a hot piece of ass?!
loco_coco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:24:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He wasn't even that ugly
rburp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:41 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black and ugly as ever.
Frostbite1215 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that what you call it?
Oda_nicullah ยท 279 points ยท Posted at 17:30:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He said that on the fly?? Shhit. Pulled an Eminem. Rekt them and himself at the same time.
I_r_redditmans ยท 125 points ยท Posted at 17:46:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lincoln was so fucking eloquent. Everything he said or wrote was so goddamn poetic
Muchashca ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:12:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At the event where Lincoln gave the Gettysburg Address, Edward Everett, a well known speaker of his day, was asked to speak for two hours with time to prepare his speech beforehand. His speech, called the Gettysburg Oration, is very well done and quite poetic. Afterwards, Lincoln asked to speak for a moment, completely unprepared, and gave the famous Gettysburg Address. Everett spoke to him afterwards and said, "I should be glad, if I could flatter myself that I came as near to the central idea of the occasion, in two hours, as you did in two minutes..." and praised the "eloquent simplicity & appropriateness" of Lincoln's speech. Lincoln completely trumped one of the best, most experienced speakers of his time without any preparation at all, and with very little formal education. Just goes to show what an incredible man he was.
veggiter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:59:46 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't it actually unusual back then to speak for such a short amount of time?
Muchashca ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:28:33 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It sounds like it was fairly standard. Regarding the longer speech by Everett, I found a quote on Wikipedia, "Lengthy dedication addresses like Everett's were common at cemeteries in this era. The tradition began in 1831 when Justice Joseph Story delivered the dedication address at Mount Auburn Cemetery in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Those addresses often linked cemeteries to the mission of Union." [1]
From what I gather, Lincoln was invited to give the closing remarks of the ceremony, so very little was expected in terms of time and content - but Lincoln was moved by Everett's words and the sacrifices of the soldiers buried in the new cemetery, and delivered something even more heartfelt
atomic_rabbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:53 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a myth. Lincoln was always scheduled to speak and he worked for many days on the speech (there are copies of several drafts still existing).
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:27:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vonnegut has said that he feels Lincoln was a better writer than he was.
veggiter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:23 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus he could ride a beat.
letsgoiowa ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 18:20:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being suicidal will kinda do that to you
apples_apples_apples ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:38:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
False. Source: was once suicidal, was never eloquent
mrgreencannabis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm.
marshal_mellow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:23 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was suicidal, was called eloquent by a shrink but I don't trust that lady.
ordinaryrendition ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:41:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But he's not a rapper.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good catch.
durtysox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, he was known for that. Had a ready wit, and a tendency to make the joke be about himself.
I'd hazard he was the funniest President, at least on purpose. There were plenty who were accidentally funny. We don't talk about Ford and his pratfalls any longer. Gerald could not stay up on his pins. That's not funny after a while, just worrisome and pitiful.
Bush Jr. said a lot of malapropisms, but there is IMO ample evidence that he was high as a kite on prescription drugs throughout his presidency. You can check out any speech from when he's Governor versus when he's President, it's a marked change in verbal ability. Again, just worrisome and pitiful.
But for deliberate intelligent humor, I think Lincoln wins.
sonic_the_groundhog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:41:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What did eminem do that relates?
veggiter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:19 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he's referring to 8 Mile.
sonic_the_groundhog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:52:10 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That would make sense
uss1701jb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:55 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the old "allahu ackbar"
weeaboo_j0nes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:18 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like a kamikaze burn
fukitol- ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:26:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People give Dubya shit a lot but you can't be stupid and win the presidency, and Lincoln was particularly gifted when it came to words.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:24:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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cjhobbes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:26:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
is that not the epitome of the american dream?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:04:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
George W. Bush is smarter than you
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:39:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing there, but a member of Bush's party saying that Bush is smarter than anybody is not exactly compelling evidence.
veggiter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:34 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All of that would be really impressive if he actually made good decisions.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:13 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
By all accounts of people who have actually met him, Bush is very smart.
Just shit with words.
Sadsharks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because Dubya didn't "win" the presidency.
uwhuskytskeet ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 18:06:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bet twitter went crazy after he dropped that line.
Charliekratos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Twitter went crazy after that one. ~Abraham Lincoln
Vandelay_Latex_Sales ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:12:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact, this quote is why Lincoln is on the penny. Harvey Dent loves pennies.
sonar1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. Douglas. You dun fucked up. You dun fucked up.
guywhosaysrekt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:35:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rekt
Upyourasses ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:28:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I dont find him ugly. As mentioned interesting looking but hes really not ugly.
Reahu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too, his face is really unique in a way. Really easy to spot and recognize (maybe because I'm so used to seeing him but also maybe not), imo a perfect face for a national icon.
Upyourasses ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea thats really the best way to say it. Its unique and doesn't follow the typical attributes of a man you would consider to be good looking. However he is by no means ugly.
SayceGards ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:38:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd still hit it, let's be real.
StopReadingMyUser ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:07:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What an interesting looking brick wall.
hungarianstupidity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he was kinda hot though
Lol, just kidding.
bullintheheather ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:19:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He could play Daniel Day-Lewis in his biopic.
whogivesashirtdotca ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:14:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"None of the artists or pictures has caught the deep, though subtle and indirect expression of this manโs face. There is something else there. One of the great portrait painters of two or three centuries ago is needed." - Walt Whitman on Lincoln
nothingremarkable ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:06:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people just look intelligent. It's amazing.
LORDxGOLD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:13:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: Eddie Redmayne could play Lincoln in a biopic (if he hides his accent well enough)
RaeLynnCow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:44:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so sassy in that first pic. "yeah. im president. yeah. its fabulous... but i dont really care too much about it. even though its fabulous as fuck."
Pestilence86 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:45:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did he have bright blue eyes or has someone shopped this pic?
inthedrink ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His face is so money
lrony_Maiden ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Back in the late 1980s when I was a little girl, before we had the internet - I sometimes used to entertain myself by looking through our encyclopedias. Abraham Lincolns page was my very favourite (I'm not even from the USA). I used to stare at his picture and I seriously thought I had known him or something.
MarsupialKing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He has some great hair
_GameSHARK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Acromegaly, or whatever it's called.
skrenename4147 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:13:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of geneticists think he suffered from Marfan syndrome.
I_Find_This_Humerus_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In fact the favourite theory at the moment is that he had MEN2b, a genetic disease which mimics Marfan syndrome in looks but also has several other endocrine and cancer problems.
I think it was something to do with entries in his diaries about symptoms consistent with MEN. If I get time I'll dig it out.
PM_ME_YOUR_MALAISE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The 'before' looks like Rick if the walkers finally got him.
bassististist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still not fully convinced he wasn't an alien. He was freakishly tall too.
whydoesmybutthurt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
actually he has neanderthal in his dna
BonerShoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude I swear he's a alien.
IggySorcha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, just suspected by geneticists to have a musculoskeletal disorder. His stature and build is clearly marfanoid hiabitus.
BonerShoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea that's what I was going to say next.
I_am_Nightwing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His descendants are all allergic to peanuts
Croswynd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like Grand Moff Tarkin.
MrTooTall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's believed he may have had marfan syndrome, a genetic condition, which contributed to his appearance and height.
foxwichita ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His distinctive look is a result of his malnourished childhood.
LoL4Life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
He has a Keith Richards look going on.. or Keith Richards has a Lincoln thing going on..
ThatSaneGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i have only just noticed how much he and bill nye look alike
Voltron_McYeti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Strangely handsome
SuperPoop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A real life Rick.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm very curious what his voice sounded like
Vulnerable_assassin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:02 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that he may have had some sort of rare connective tissue disease.
european_impostor ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:42:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His younger face reminds me of G-Man for some reason... Think it's the lines around the mouth and the large gap between nose and upper lip.
Djj117 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:39:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean terrifying! Those soulless eyes...
bahhumbugger ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:07:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's his height, from a portrait you can't see his Frame is of a large man. Very large man, but not fat.
Globsnaga ยท 412 points ยท Posted at 15:04:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's with his bow tie
konag0603 ยท 1084 points ยท Posted at 15:07:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He stopped giving a fuck
Odin_Exodus ยท 257 points ยท Posted at 15:41:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He has great hair.
[deleted] ยท 154 points ยท Posted at 15:57:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just realized that my hair could be like that if I got a little swoopy with it. Same hairline, similar hair type. I'm gonna have to try a Lincoln out at some point. But not to the theater.
alexbhood ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 16:22:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol Is the implication here that your hair might attract assassins? Like it was Lincoln's haircut that sent John Wilkes Booth over the edge?
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 16:31:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't be too careful with killers.
takingphotosmakingdo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
especially if you go with that haircut and I get the "kiosk" look.
alexbhood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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alexbhood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We must go deeper!
Can't be too careful with killers who are also actors that are playing a character who's a killer.
Hamilton__Mafia ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:54:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be dramatic
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:57:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too soon, bro. Too soon.
Hencenomore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, theater shootings since Lincoln.
N3KR3P0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black?
quintsreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:13 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As long as you donโt sit in the John Wilkes booth, you should be fine :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
definitely. Civil war was about whether he should cut it or not
dancingbeers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:27 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kennedy hair...
But they didn't call it that back then...
L8teronthemenjay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:41:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My kind of president
lewdmoo ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I thought for Obama's tie. In his first Address, the red tie is carefully centered and knotted. By the last one, it's a lil bulgy looking and def off center. Our country's OP is so over it.
ferlessleedr ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 15:18:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually a regular tie, he's just worried about it getting in his soup.
TheSaintBernard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay Larry David
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:12:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's turning to face the camera
PoisonedAl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:44:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bow ties are cool.
mister11th ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
drunk
verbutten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pirates are in this year!
PhilSeven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
rotgut whiskey skews the bow tie
RiskyClickardo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude have you ever tried to tie a bow tie?
Shit's hard, yo
MBMathersIII ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:48:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bill Nye's great granddad?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:57:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was the style at the time.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:00:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he injectz 2 swaggs before the picture wuz taken
c0LdFir3 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:18:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was a huge Bill Nye fan.
traffick ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:42:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lincoln was the only punk elected to the Presidency.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:40:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best presidential hair ever, and that's without product.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:02:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why would you assume he didn't have access to product?
jmk4422 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard his barber hanged himself. And the one before him, too.
max_500 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 15:13:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mconnaughey should play him.
bobybushia ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 15:20:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or Daniel Day Lewis
ThePolemicist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:27:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was such a spectacular portrayal.
uofkENTucky ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:58:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The younger version looks like an older Eddie Redmayne
hitbyabus21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking Billy Bob Thornton
captcha_bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looked like Viggo Mortensen to me.
JelliedHam ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:01:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Abe looks like that guy that shows up at Thanksgiving, friends of your uncle or something, and asks you if you want to go smoke a bowl in the garage while everybody else watches football.
svtguy88 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:12:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...so, apparently my family is not the only family this happens in.
SkywayTraffic ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:38:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The man had one hell of a head of hair.
King_Muscle ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:40:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Abraham Lincoln was a lot more handsome than I thought.
deHavillandDash8Q400 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:17:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cameras just improved
rayblasdel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:33:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually one of the clearest early Lincoln photos I've ever seen.
BMOCROC ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:20:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the 'Civil War' is a good excuse though
PlagaDeRock ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:08:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks so much younger without the beard. I can't imagine how big a toll the civil war must have taken on him, the stress of a country your in charge of tearing itself apart must be insane.
lbmouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus I heard that he was on a helluva 4 year bender during the war. When he finally sobered up, his first words where, "I freed who?!?"
productionisdown ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never realized how much he looks like Skinny Pete without the beard.
dogfish83 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
in the first pic he looks like pajama kid.
Greien218 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did he do meth?
whogivesashirtdotca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, but if one of his generals did and was successful, he'd have bought barrels of it for all his other generals.
footcreamfin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
beard + side burns probably add to his aged look as well
the-Real_Slim-Shady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tbh his aging probably looks more pronounced due to the difference in photo quality and lighting between the two
YoSoyChompipe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thats a sweet do honest abe is rockin in his first term
Abhishrekt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, Lincoln was dead after the civil war.
LNMagic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was dead before the end of the war.
iamtheowlman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's funny, because he doesn't really look older, just more craggy. He looks like he could go on forever like that.
swilson215 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it just me, or does Lincoln really need to eat a sandwich?
Butt_pass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The before is just rockstar material right there
Rhodie114 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Young Abe had some serious resting bitch face
MayorMoonbeam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude's got great hair.
whogivesashirtdotca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have to be the pedant on this, because it's one of the cruelties of history: Lincoln didn't live long enough to see the end of the war.
WalterWhiteman1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks happier post civil war.
conquer69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He had very clear eyes. What color were they?
DrewskiBrewski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shiiiitttt
Jollyman21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't live to see the end of it
Boro84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he had a great head of hair though, cant deny that
Hotblack_Desiato_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, he looks as rough as a badger's asshole BEFORE the war.
Hotpeanut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bow ties are cool
jakeinator21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His regular hair looks like my bed head.
Skyblacker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was a risky click. I really thought the second image was going to be postmortem. Lincoln before and after a night at the theater.
shiroishii731 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nigga is handsome as hell
GeorgeWBluth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm proud of him for keeping his hairline intact
fearachieved ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now that I can understand, what a stressful time to be president.
Rather what a stressful time to be president and have to stand alone for what is right
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He could still get it. I like my men weird or beautiful af.
juicehead1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama didn't have any war as serious as the civil war.
FlarpyChemical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When was meth invented?
swhitehouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ayyyy look my cousin!
Gravybone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shouldn't he be dead in the after picture?
Turk1518 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like a suitable candidate for the next Dr. Who.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An 11 year old girl told him he'd look better with a beard, and he took the advice. Maybe that's why he was a great leader--willing to take input from anybody.
cloudy17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still had fabulous hair though
TectonicImprov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Can you believe this shit?"
"...Yes."
USAuthority ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
after becoming the hero of all black Americans.
Redemption_Unleashed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a nice picture of Daniel Day Lewis
DavidChristen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That foo came out the womb at age 13.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
President Lincoln, the emancipator of slaves, duck lips innovator.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent cheekbones
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
there's almost nobody on earth who looks like that.
mister11th ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like Mick Jagger
Lolworth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Young Abe was... Super Hans?
AndHerNameIsSony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was expecting something along the lines about a headshot.
Nastreal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, gotta downvote you.
Lincoln didn't survive the war. Post is misleading.
Looooooooooch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure the guy on the left is Chris Collinsworth
Levy_Wilson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, Abe had some sort of genetic disease that also contributed to this.
MTGS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A war so rough it made a skeleton grow a beard.
ThatBelligerentSloth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks emaciated
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His look kind of scares me.
throwaway01010013412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, it's really crazy that they had more lighting for photographs before the civil war.
UNC_Samurai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Technically, the war was still ongoing. This picture was taken on April 10; Johnston did not begin meeting with Sherman about terms of surrender until April 18, and Jefferson Davis was not captured until May 10. And Kirby Smith did not surrender his army until May 26.
MisterBrick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently that's what writing letters do Samuel L. Jackson does to you.
zobain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His right side is clearly his good side.
bigslayerguyman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aging actually did him a favor.
PostmodernPlagiarism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The before version could be the next Doctor.
Coby180 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it wrong that I thought you were going to put a casket
BrainTrauma009 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His hair is quite on point for being styled with at best some oil. Lol
Subotan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:22 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the death of his son.
excusemefucker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:01 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Track down pictures of his life masks if you have a chance. The change is fucking nuts
weedandfifa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:39 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason I thought his head would be missing in the second picture :/
satisfried ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:41 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought Lincoln was cool ugly. He's the type of ugly that implies he's seen some shit and would defeat you in any disagreement. Not the weird guy who smells bad and is always trying to pay with subway token ugly.
Mathieulombardi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:25 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Abe Lincoln, he's just not ready.
Nice hair though.
Dampstay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:39:09 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Funny, but his look really gives me some Australian vibes.
defeatedbird ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's no way anyone that ugly would get elected now.
fatfaggotsnacks1 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 15:25:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Abe was quite the handsome man!
Hotblack_Desiato_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:18:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Up until the 1920s, "handsome" meant that your face is roughly symmetrical and that you have no hideously disfiguring scars or pock-marks.
Lockraemono ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:27:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugly? Really? I think he has a pretty sweet look going on. Like a sexy, evil librarian.
defeatedbird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's like if you combined Einstein's forehead with the rest of Ed Harris' face, then gave him cancer.
kevie3drinks ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
+ a hole in the back of the head.
oww, i made myself sad.
WilliamofYellow ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:07:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use him as an example when people say that ugly people never get ahead.
op135 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he's ugly?
WilliamofYellow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:35:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like a baboon.
dsa_key ยท 4671 points ยท Posted at 14:05:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Age 46 to 54 is a bitch apparently.
ElCaz ยท 4017 points ยท Posted at 14:45:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People like to talk about presidential aging, and sure, stress probably doesn't help. But 8 years between late 40s and 50s, you're going to see significant changes on everybody
blackpony04 ยท 1591 points ยท Posted at 14:57:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're absolutely right. I'm 45 with older siblings who are 54 & 55 and we look nothing alike due to the difference of that decade. Not to say stress doesn't play a part but everybody looks different than their 8 year younger self at just about any age.
tupacsnoducket ยท 739 points ยท Posted at 15:01:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my dad could pass for being in his 30's all the way to like 53~ then BAM he was definitely 50~, wrinkles, grey hair in beard and head, they weren't even that bad but her certainly wasn't 30~
[deleted] ยท 503 points ยท Posted at 15:12:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Kritical02 ยท 526 points ยท Posted at 15:27:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My guess is she went through menopause.
jyoocp ยท 1187 points ยท Posted at 15:43:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Asians
Fat_Brando ยท 183 points ยท Posted at 18:58:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of a story...
Friend of mine traveled to Mexico. While drinking at a bar, he mentioned that he didn't see any middle aged women around town. There seemed to only be young, attractive women, or older, less attractive women. No one in between.
The guy on the stool next to him told him, "The beeg ones... eat the leetle ones."
rburp ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:39:01 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just want to express that that is really really funny.
pm_your_netflix_Queu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:13 on February 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cant stop laughing
Etonet ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:50:42 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
expln?
Inhesion ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 22:40:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LOL
2manyc00ks ยท 103 points ยท Posted at 17:50:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
asians.
from 50-60 they are an orange firework.
chasealex2 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:03:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, an orange firework isn't a bad metaphor for the menopause. Unstable, dangerous to approach, liable to explode without warning.
LiL_BrOwNiE247 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have correctly described my Asian mother. I'm currently home on winter break and I got yelled at the other day for mixing chicken and vegetables with rice instead of eating them separately.
[deleted] ยท 250 points ยท Posted at 16:31:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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FAGET_WITH_A_TUBA ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 17:51:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, can you get up?
kimkam1898 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:39:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't you hear him? He has fallen and he can't get up!
joncanoe ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:43:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Should've gotten Life Alertโข.
Rocketboy4221 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:02:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YES HE CAN, JUST DO IT!
inthedrink ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:59:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that a club? A section of an amazing hotel?
I have to know. I need access!!
fishwaffles ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:54:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any floor could be a fucking floor if you set your mind to it.
HappyZavulon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"What... am I?"
TamarinFisher ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:59:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. loled a bit.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:49:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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P0sitive_Outlook ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:07:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not cool
t0f0b0 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone call an ambulance!
P0sitive_Outlook ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:05:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"You're an ambulance!"
(Sir, you'll need to edit your post so my reply fits grammatically. Sir. Sir? What do you mean 'no'?)
FormerlySalve_Lilac ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 16:34:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is one of my favorite comics that has ever come out of the internet.
shiftat8Krpm ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:37:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every time I see this, I laugh uncontrollably
bigdaddyk86 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 16:26:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Classic Karl Pilkington
DocFail ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:13:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude. That happened to me.
AmadeusCziffra ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 17:35:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're a 120 year old Asian woman saying dude?
JCiLee ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 18:12:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is her. http://i.imgur.com/j8g3q8n.jpg
rowinit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:51:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is frighteningly relevant.
Trailmagic ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:37:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same for Hispanics, but they look 18 at age 15
endridfps ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:29:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The truth is white people just age like shit
KingofBukakke ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:42:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's that sun man. White people are from place with substantially less sun than the U.S. And the sun does cause wrinkling and agin skin
Narcissistic_nobody ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:58:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's true the sun ages them. But outs not only that a lot of white people I know don't use sunscreen or moisturize like they should and have crap diets on top of that. That's the major key to staying Young
beepbeepitsajeep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:39:50 on June 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So only white people have crap diets and should use protection from the sun? Are you retarded or just trying to be racially sensitive?
Thatzionoverthere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you don't have melanin, black people age perfectly well into our 60's.
aaeme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turn pale and crusty? It's true. We literally do.
wychlaran ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In all honestly white people wrinkle easily but age consistently. Asian skin stays smooth for longer but sags quickly once old age and gravity catches up. Black skin gets a lot of pigmentation issues with age.
Thatzionoverthere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely. Paler you're, the more screwed you're in the long run. Only thing worse is white people who tan, ruins your skin.
hurrgeblarg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:22 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, something has to make up for all the advantages of being white :D
shadycrop ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 16:45:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And look 40 at 25.
Thatzionoverthere ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:05:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sad but true.
LoliProtector ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:21:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meth will do that to someone
18- 40 in a year
smeenz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:41:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I swear she looked 18, your honour
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Was passing for 18+ at 15 and buying liquor without being ID'd at 19. My age and appearance sync'd up ~25. Now at 32, and at about 40-pounds-down from when I was 31, people are surprised to learn I'm older than 28.
I usually think they're talking out of their asses, though. But it'll catch up to me.
permanentthrowaway ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:04:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hispanic here. I'm 27 and people still ID me all the time D:
StoneFacedBuddha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How'd you come to find that one out?
Trailmagic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Living in TX at age 15
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are indigenous, yes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who you callin indigenous, buster?
Taco_Strong ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:39:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to joke that Asians look 16 till they're 90, then they look like they're 150.
Ethereal429 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:00:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I saw the link and name of it, I was hoping it was this picture. 10/10 did not disappoint.
nionvox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mother inlaw is progressing through the 6-70 bracket right on time, lmao!
NotUrTypicalButtPlug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or Tom Cruise
MountTheInterwebs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found grandma from The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
FancyVestibule ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:48 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Asians age overnight, like a pear." - Karl Pilkington
lordhunts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:30 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what you're telling me here is that asians are exponential while caucasians are linear?
martinko1337 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:41:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
haha i should get back to my asian ex, she gon' be fiiiiiine long after im too old
SuedeVeil ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 16:54:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I swear my mom got younger after menopause, she also had cancer at the same time and went through some serious shit, lost all her hair, was sick all th time.. but after that she looked younger, I mean she still gets wrinkles and doesn't have a scary botox baby face but her attitude, hairstyles, the way she dresses, it's youthful and yet classy. There seeems to be some point in women and men that they decide they need to dress like old people for comfort. And get old people haircuts. And yeah they age a ton after that even if they didn't get any wrinkles they would still look old. All pants are now elastic waists, printed embroidered sweaters, the ball perm haircut, maybe its comfortable and they don't give a shit. But in my moms case (who is 70 now) she still loves fashion,we hit the gym together, takes care of her skin, and still goes dancing and other active things. (and she re-married a few years ago to a younger guy, so there's that..) Yeah she still feels the age in a few health problems, but she really is my motivation for getting older. Why give up on things you love, you can really maintain a lot of your young self if you spend time taking care of it.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:19:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad your mom's well and sharing her wonderfulness. I hope I'm that awesome at half her age.
red_threat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:55:33 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Glad your mom is doing well. I imagine a lot of it has to do with feeling like you've got something to live for, otherwise it just gets easier to let yourself go. "I'm old and gonna die soon, why bother." That and genetics will also play a part.
Wraith_GraveSpell ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:39:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and the dad went through manopause.
BuckeyedWolfpack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:59:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thats so hot
NONCONSENSUAL_INCEST ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah it rules cuz then you can bust inside and not have to worry about abortion money
yourdrunkaunt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:10:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. That's what happened to my mom.
Ho_ho_beri_beri ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or being Notasurgeon's mom.
BB-r8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL Obama went through menopause during his presidency.
BigMax ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:28:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife went from 28 to her 60's right after the wedding.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:16:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just turned 30. When I checked in at my kid's school to pick her up, there was an argument over whether I was actually her mom or older sister trying to play hooky. I look 14, but I have the Gandalf eyebags of a mom who has been sick of your shit for a decade.
Damasticator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:55:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Asian?
ySomic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same with mine. She looked 30 to 40 when she was 45 n now she looks like 60 and walks like an 80y old and she is 48.
Cancer is a bitch
cuulcars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same for my mom. "WOW there's no way your 52! You look 35!" wham "Oh God are you like 65?"
unitedhen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get your mom a beard trimmer.
Trephine_H ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My father looks like 50 and is already 70... Guess its different for everybody.
Binsky89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's she Asian?
tbonemcmotherfuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Asian women go from 20s to 70s in a few years.
therealsarahmanning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that's what meth user progression looks like.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:04:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's common, women age rapidly compared to men. Their youthful look is largely connected to their fertility.
sunimperfect ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:31:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't see what is so hard to believe about him aging. Guy was late 40's. On top of this let's see pictures of a lot of people on here from 8 years ago. When I visited my old friends from highschool (5 years after graduating) They were already beginning to look aged and pretty much all my friends becoming over weight and with their young partying lifestyle. I mean geeeezzz. They were like "you still look the same from highschool." Which I replied "...you too... :/ " Honestly, this guy is right on point, aging pretty graceful.
blackpony04 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great, I'm 45 mistaken for 35...thanks for the buzz kill about my future lol
cantusethemain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 27 and I'm getting some salt in my beard already. I like it though.
LaxCrosse007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm assuming that will happen to me. I'm 30 right now and people still ask me what year of college I am in.
rac3r5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 34 and all it took was 2-4 months of intense sadness and stress to make my beard salt and pepper when I was 31.
bmorgy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like he went through a male version of menopause....Manopause?
caliserver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Andropause?
jonath_n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. That was very interesting and informative.
F-A-T-E ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
EXACT same story
youlleatitandlikeit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I could probably get away with it if I dyed my hair. I'm now 25-33% gray. Probably inherited from my mother โ she and her mother both went gray early.
Slokunshialgo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've had grey/white hairs in my beard since I was 20...
rarely-sarcastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same. I mean my dad doesn't look old but somewhere in his mid 50s he changed from looking like he was 35 to looking like he was 60. It seemed so sudden like he aged overnight or something. He's still a strong badass he always was but the day I noticed he looked older it made me super sad because I realized truthfully that he doesn't have that much time left before he will not be able to shoot hoops like he does now.
He'll always be able to kick my ass in everything because he is pure muscle and wisdom and I'll be an old man before he becomes an old man but it's still weird to see him this way.
Gronkalicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, I started getting grey at 11, I'm now 27 and almost totally grey.
sheephound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I'm 33 and have a ton of gray in my beard and the hair on my head...
argort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:08 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. The last time I needed to get a photo id the photo that I used was from 2006. Nobody blinked an eye. I'm in my mid 40s. I seem like I haven't aged-but my knees aren't the same.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:40:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey actually someone with a huge age gap between siblings like me. I read some article that the youngest makes the most jokes, do you find that true?
blackpony04 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I probably am the biggest wise ass of my clan. My spread is fairly wide too and I'm the youngest of 5. Our birth years are 60, 61, 63, 64, and whoops 70.
foodandart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:53:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't look much older at 29 than I did at 21, and at 33 I was still getting hit on by college dudes, which was weird as fuck. I'm 51 now and have managed to avoid most of the ravages of time, though menopause is the great equalizer and my skin - WTF - is turning to crepe as the collagen breaks down. That shit happens fast so keep yourself moisturized with a good, non-glycol/alcohol based skin cream - guys too - my husband is hitting the SAME wall, as collagen isn't really affected by hormones so much as time.
anachronic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, that's usually around the age most people have to deal with their kids going through their teenage years, which will age ANYONE.
YoureProbablyATwat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to Keanu Reeves.
TokiStark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about Paul Rudd? Paul Rudd hasn't aged a day in over 20 years
Scruffmygruff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Sure, but* the differences are more dramatic from 50-58 than from 20-28
sidepart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Saw a picture of myself from 8 years ago. Don't think I've fully grasped just how much hair I've lost.
Rhonselak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in my twenties with siblings in their thirties. We look nothing alike due to the differences in our paternities.
SirSoliloquy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, just look at how hard time has been on Keanu Reeves
blackpony04 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aliens from California don't count dude...or is it brah?
WhatDoesN00bMean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The difference between 46 and 54 is much larger than the difference between 36 and 44, math be damned.
Screen_Watcher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What would you say the most stressful decade was? I'm in my mid 20s hoping my early 20s never repeat stress-wise.
blackpony04 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My 40s have been a bitch but that's because I lost my job at 40 and was divorced at 44. My 30s were so far the best decade of my life....
DobbsNanasDead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I was 8 years younger I'd be an eleven year old boy... So why do I look the same!?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Monsoonjr99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:06 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too, I'm 16 and I've changed a lot since I was 8.
Nicklovn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 21. The stress of high school and.college really took their toll on me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be active meaning exersice and eat well and you will, for the most part, avoid it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah dude. It's cuz you're adopted.
machete234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Between 20 and 30 there does not have to be that much aging for many people.
blackpony04 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My 9 years older sister was mistaken for my twin when she was 29 and I was 20. But now at 45 and 54, not so much!
BombaFett ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like reverse puberty
Actionhippie417 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im scared. I think my SO is going to be attractive a lot longer than me
TheStooner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is different though, it seems like he just went from thirty to sixty in 8 years from this picture.
The_LTM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read somewhere that our bodies tend to age in 7 year increments (from a visual outwardly appearance). Meaning every 7ish years there should be obvious changes in how we look. This isn't scientifically backed, just an observation.
wolfJam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except Bernie Sanders.
Lnfinite_god ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:32 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
7 years is closer to 5 years than it is to a decade.
nardpuncher ยท 226 points ยท Posted at 14:56:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is true. There's a weird sort of corner you turn around there.
trippingman ยท 266 points ยท Posted at 15:05:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, I'm 46 now.
nardpuncher ยท 248 points ยท Posted at 15:07:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not that huge of a change. Not like turning into a stooped senior...just you go from looking like a weathered thirty year old to looking like you're a functioning alcoholic forty year old even if you don't drink
jonesyjonesy ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 15:27:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's quite the silver lining. Way to go man.
anachronic ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:14:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I turn 40 in a few years, I want to start telling people I'm 50 so that they say: "Wow, you look AWESOME for 50!" and I can wink and it'll be my little secret.
ThundercuntIII ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:51:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is supposed to be uplifting?
Esoteric_Monk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:08:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if you're already a functioning alcoholic? Asking for a friend.
trippingman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks man, I feel so much better.
josiahw ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 15:11:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever you do, don't get elected president.
sugar_free_haribo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:46:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear. Am now president.
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RiskyChris ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:44:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If we thought Bill's scandal was a circus, could you even imagine?
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RiskyChris ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:02:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh you're a bigot, I was trying to make a cute joke and you brought your SJW bullshit into this.
sawasdee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:11 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do we really need to put /s in every sarcastic sentence? I thought the sarcasm was quite thick, but whoosh it is then.
trippingman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or it means Hilary won.
fappy_mcfapster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:32:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Luckily for me, I'll never have to worry about that.
BMWbill ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:17:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck. Me too. And my hair is already gray on the sides. We are about to turn into old folks overnight!
teefour ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:18:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I suggest tattooing a line on your thigh every 6 months where your balls hang to to track your progress. It'll be a great memento for the grandkids one day.
Greyhaven7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hello, sir. Do you have your AARP card?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry bud. Can we get a picture of you to compare with in 8 years?
trippingman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:23:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We'll see in 8 years. Ping me then.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! in 8 years about /u/trippingman aging process
MonsterIt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've been a good friend.
SickNarsh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not worth it, go back now before it's too late.
Fakespeedbump ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry to hear that
Aegent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
F
Hamilton__Mafia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if he understands this
trippingman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As an old man, probably not. But I've assumed it's just short for fuck, but less satisfying to say and type.
Hamilton__Mafia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Today's your day old Dude! "Press f for respects" is from a video game!
http://i.imgur.com/9aJeWxK.jpg
That's actually a video game if you think that's a real picture, so peeps say "f"
Welcome to the beginning of the insanity that is those wipper snappers
trippingman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:53 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! As an old dude I have no time for video games. They no longer hold much interest to me either, which is probably why I don't make the time.
My son plays a lot, so I've seen how good the graphics have gotten. Amazing in many ways, but still they seem so far from reality.
ZeusMcFly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you're gonna look like dogshit in 8 years I guess.
Fyller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just don't become president and you're in the clear.
2boredtocare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanking my lucky stars I have 4 more years until someone hits the warp-speed function on aging.
motherfacker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha!! Hahaaaaaaahaaha...wooohooo!! Finally! Someone older than me on reddit! Oh thank you, God....was starting to feel like a man on an island. (Just turned 40)
At least we've got it each other, right? Right?!
Hey....where'd you go?
sugar_free_haribo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:47:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He just passed away. You're next.
motherfacker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
q_q
trippingman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, had to take a nap. You know how this aging thing is.
Atheist101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
good luck
Acidmoband ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! You're screwed, you old fuck. I won't be 46 until June (sobs quietly).
At least I still drink enough alcohol that I'll likely age as if I'm withering. (Sobbing intensifies).
SgtExo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does not happen to everyone. My dad does not look any older than he did 10 years ago and he is in his mid 50s now. It is down to genetics and stress.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you good at memeing?
Fyodor007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well you've got my vote. Trippingman 2016!!
Jiveturkey72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What were the 80's like? I've been told it was a strange and wonderful time
t0tes_malotes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shh bby it's okay
zmansman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a photo now so you remember what it's like not being a skeleton :)
EltaninAntenna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same. Fuckity fuck.
USAuthority ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my goal by that age is to have a lot of money saved up
P0sitive_Outlook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When i started at my new job last year, i got to talking to a cute Estonian lass. During conversation in the busy break room, she said "how old do you think i am/look?". I said i wasn't going to fall for that, and told her i'm really bad at guessing ages.
She pointed to a chap at a table next to ours, and said "How old do you think he is?". I said "I dunno, forty?"
Dude turned around and said "I'm thirty eight! >:/" to which i replied "Thirty eight is forty".
It's been a year and that guy still doesn't like me.
:D
UnRepentantDrew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. I turn 47 in three weeks.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In 4 years you'll look 60, and feel like 70 after doing what was easy at 45.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
srry m8
Onemizzou39 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Feels good to be 18
profnachos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only 3 years older than you. I got a senior discount the other day. Didn't even ask for it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hit the gym and keep your fitness up and I can't imagine you'll ever look bad
firedogrob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too, this does not bode well......
djrage70 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:55 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll be 46 in 2 months... Damn
myhairsreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People's facial skin seems to just say "fuuuck it."
youdontevenknow63 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:59:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not for everyone
nardpuncher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:01:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone thinks they're immune.
youdontevenknow63 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't talking about me. I was talking about all the people I know that look pretty much the same at 60 as they did at 45. Of course, many of those people are in my family, so it's likely that it will happen to me as well. Sorry for all you suckers with awful genetics!
[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 14:58:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. Of course he's going to look obviously aged since his first term, because he has aged almost a decade.
CaptSmallShlong ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:01:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but he looks like he has aged 20 years
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No he doesn't.
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[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:25:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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StillEnjoyLegos ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:55:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well there's a big difference between 15 and 18, just trust me on that one.
Wu-Tang_Flan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The visual difference between 40-50 is much bigger than the difference between 30-40. Testosterone levels are dropping by the time you're 50.
gravshift ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hence why people on hormone therapies look alot younger then their counterparts.
VaATC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually most physiological processes, including hormone production, start dropping approximately around the age of 30.
The following source does not directly say 30, but if you apply the approximate loss of 1% per year, most of the percentages lost by specific ages presented in the source lead you back to between age 30 and 40=
Nisas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the more important thing is that that's around when you start to go grey. So the changes are more pronounced than say 30 to 40.
bookon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:04:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was 43 when he became president and look almost exactly like my pictures from that time. It's crazy what stress does to you. I have friends my age (50) who look 60 and some who look 35. Maybe I'll go downhill in 5 years, but I think it has more to do with lifestyle (and genes) than anything else.
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bookon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not me who says that, it's everyone. I assume they are all not lying. Especially the ones who don't seem happy about it. I have all my hair, very little grey, and that seems to age people the most. Good Genes and Lifestyle mean a lot. Also, most people I know DON'T think that about 7 year old pictures.
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bookon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's true. I am a big guy. I don't have a "fat" face, but I assume if I lost 30 lbs I'd look older.
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bookon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am 6'1" and 260, but all my weight is in the torso. I find a lot of people look better in the face if they have a little extra. And older if they don't. Obama is very skinny. He's like 6'3" and something like 170. I assume 20 lbs would make him look 10 years younger.
Suckydog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:34:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's going to happen to Bernie if he wins?
Publix_Deli ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:12:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie would be 75 at the time of his inauguration. There's a pretty good chance he'd die in office. Reagan was our oldest president yet, and he was 77 at the end of his 2 terms.
top_koala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly if he's in good health right now I don't think so. With access to the very best health care the country has he should be fine, especially if it's only one term.
Publix_Deli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I say a "pretty good" chance, I'm not saying he's more likely to die in the next 5 years than he is to survive. His odds of dying in the next 5 years are significantly higher than any other candidate's, though. People that age (especially men) sometimes just drop dead without warning. If Bernie has a stroke in his sleep, no amount of secret service protection is going to realize what's happening before it's too late.
dekrant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:12:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But that doesn't explain how Bush 43 went from middle aged frat guy to grizzled grandpa. He looked younger than Jeb before and now he looks significantly older than him.
Pritzker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:15:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus, in all fairness, he looked INCREDIBLY YOUNG for 46 when he first took office.
CRISPR ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:19:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We need a Bush for scale.
TheImplausibleHulk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:42:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention this is an unflattering pic of him from last night.
bgar0312 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is always my point. It's just a time of your live when you are gonna change, probly not for the better.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno. I reckon George Clooney looks just as handsome as ever in his 50s, despite the grey hairs.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember that he was a smoker and had allegedly quit when he was first elected. I wonder how much more significantly that would have aged him had he never quit. Or maybe it would have kept him young, I'm no scientist.
monocline ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but he looks like he's in his 60s.
knwnasrob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My dad is 45....shut up he is never going to age!
J1ffyLub3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hell i've seen some pretty big changes on my dad in the last few years, and he's mid 40s
no way he goes through more stress in a day than the president
StargateMunky101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
few wars, the odd congress sideswiping you with some bullshit powerplay, about 15 mass school shootings.
That's a lot of nuts!
A_Dog_Chasing_Cars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Being the president must be tiring as hell, but most people change a lot in almost ten years, past a certain age.
mtmew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not just presidents 40-50. It's all of them. Yes, they are 8 years older but they aren't 20.
ChocolateGiddyUppp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I knew how to upload pictures to here from my phone I'd show you my dad. From age 45 to 65 he hardly aged a day. Looks like the exact same person, even though he smokes nearly a pack a day and has a daughter that could make a toddler get grey hair in a year.
designgoddess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on the person. When I look at photos from myself and friends during those years we did not age nearly as much. We don't look as tired for sure.
LovableContrarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I once saw some "aging expert" who did some analysis on presidents. And, as it turns out, they all age pretty much as expected.
Presidency doesn't age people. Fucking age ages people, yo.
riptide747 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about almost every actor that goes through those 8 years and looks the same? I know makeup has a lot to do with it but people like Clooney, Pitt, Denzel, Depp, all look pretty good.
Odbdb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to Hollywood stars that looks the same for 30 years.
isamura ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tom Cruise being the exception to this rule.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but imagine what Bernie sanders would look like before/after, good lord
Deathalo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to Paul Rudd
Or Rob Lowe
HappySoda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're Asian. That's not until 61 and 3 month to 61 and 3.5 month.
yankee_candle_seance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL all presidents serve between ages 40 and 50.
orthag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years is a long time. 8 years as the president is a really long time.
peatoast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're Asian.
Virulentt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why we need a difference in difference model on how much he aged compared to other politicians his age
53045248437532743874 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. I'd post my pictures from those same ages but people would accuse me of running a country.
TheloniousPhunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I've been saying for a while now.
When you're that age, stuff starts falling apart. It's just life. Yeah, some people age fantastically; but they are exceptions to the rule. Outliers.
Not only that, but Obama has children too. It's not like he doesn't have a boatload of stress from just being a parent. Add in the stressful job (any stressful job, doesn't have to be president) and of course he's going to have aged quite a bit.
I mean shit, if you took a picture of someone when they're 25 and then one when they're 33, even they will look older. Some people will age 20 years in just 4 or 5. It's not a surprise anymore that Obama has aged.
narf3684 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We need a president with an identical twin, for science.
Thestolenone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'm 50 and just starting to see what my face would be like if I was an old lady (probably won't make it that far due to a bad autoimmune illness though).
Notoriouslydishonest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For comparison, I found some other male celebrities who were born in 1961 and who are photographed a lot.
George Clooney in 2008 and in October 2015.
Eddie Murphy in May 2008 and in February 2015.
Laurence Fishburne in May 2015 and in May 2016.
Ricky Gervais in 2008 and in 2016.
Ralph Macchio in 2008 and in 2015 (seriously, the dude has been 24 for 30 years)
TL;DR- Everybody ages, but not like Obama
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except for Patrick Stewart.
sonofaresiii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're not going to see that kind of a change dude. That's a twenty-year change in eight years.
Look, eight years is a long time but come on.
kevando ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you're playing yourself
eileenbunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but stress will certainly accelerate again. In 2007 and 2008 I was 32 and 33. It was the most stressful 2 years of my life. You can look at pictures of me at the beginning and end of the periods and see me go from looking young to looking middle aged and tired like it was sudden. It was early for me to go through that transition in my opinion, especially since looking young runs in my family.
0b_101010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Menopause is a bitch.
scottperezfox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Especially for Obama who had remarkably black hair up to that age. Most men are salt+pepper by 46, regardless of ethnicity.
My father still has mostly black hair at 70, but my mother has been grey since 28. We'll see where I fall. At 34 I don't have a single grey, even in my whiskers. Just need to hold out long enough to get a hot young wife!
FunkMetalBass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What we need to do is elect an identical twin. Then we can compare the president to a "normal" after.
SasparillaTango ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
except Tom Cruise
Sean951 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can look at presidents several years after leaving office and they usually look younger than when they left office. Less stress, more sleep. Probably eating more because of the less stress.
youlleatitandlikeit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For me it feels like aging is an accelerating process.
I hardly felt any difference from 18 to 28. Aside from style changes and a little weight gain there's not much difference between my 18 year old self and my 28 year old self. From 28 to 33 I started recognizing some definite changes - maybe a couple of gray hairs here and there. 5 years later at 38 and a good quarter of my hair is gray. I no longer look young โ that's the long and short of it. I don't have wrinkles yet (maybe a few faint creases in my forehead and around my eyes). But back in my early 30s someone might mistake me for being in my early 20s. But now I definitely look my age.
NeedsNewPants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black don't Crack. Unless you're the prez
cgibson6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I hate it when people talk about how fast president's age because of the stress. I am not doubting that they are under insane amounts of stress and that this might have an effect on their physical appearance but look at anyone's transition over that same age and time frame and you are going to see the same thing for everyone.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but the huge amount of stress makes the differences more extreme.
Nalivai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Such kind of job does not help
lickmewhereilikeit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black doesn't crack in my family.
baardvark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's Madonna over the same time period, for reference.
thiscontent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
except me. i'm 36, still look early 20s, and my hair is benjamin button'ing.
TrillPhil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except he looked 30, and now he looks 60.
KronoakSCG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tell that to keanu reeves
AnorexicBuddha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he aged significantly in his first term, though.
iamagainstit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
we need to elect an identical twin, that way we can tell difference in aging between the president twin and the regular twin.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh fine. This guy gets all the up votes and I get the down votes. I see how it is Reddit.
ElCaz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've got to get in early, keep it short, and get lucky to collect your fake internet points.
steveryans2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hell look at me between 21 and 29 and you'll see some pretty big changes.
MikoSqz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He doesn't look eight years older, though. He looks 20, 25 years older.
Bitey_the_Squirrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
plus he got a new flag pin. so that's a big change right there. I almost didn't recognize the guy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention, he probably dyed his hair and wore more make up during the election run. So as to appear younger.
8 years is enough time to quit giving a fuck.
lyingliar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 33 and I look like shit compared to my 25 year old self. Less hair and more love handles. Natural muscle tone without lifting a finger: gone. Let's not kid ourselves. We'd all be lucky to look as good as Obama as his age.
whysotortoise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention they purposely picked out a good angle and lighting photo on the left, and purposely neglected to do so for the one on the right.
questoner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're a celebrity! They never age horribly.
lalondtm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:29 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish more people understood this concept. Sure, it's a stressful job and stress has negative effects on the human body, but your body goes through some pretty significant changes around that 50 mark. If this was just stress related, could you imagine if Bernie Sanders wins? Shit, he'd be fucking dead before he could run for reelection.
ahemexcuseme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:35 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, but I recall Obama's hair going white what seemed like overnight once he took office. Very rapidly.
Almostneverclever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:08 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In 2 years he'll look at least 5 years younger, like most before him.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:40 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When does one develop that old-person smell?
Tufflaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except for Asian women
Manakel93 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:00:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For some people not really. My dad is 58 and doesn't look significantly different from in his early 40s besides his beard and hair going a little salt-and-pepper.
lapekes ยท 644 points ยท Posted at 14:40:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you are the president it is.
Superflypirate ยท 443 points ยท Posted at 14:48:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The meth of political jobs.
PM_ME_YOUR_FURSUITS ยท 493 points ยท Posted at 14:59:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine if Trump wins, he'd turn to dust.
goldenrooste ยท 1344 points ยท Posted at 15:02:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His hair would live on though and find another host
Darkless69 ยท 282 points ยท Posted at 15:06:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The great migration
[deleted] ยท 134 points ยท Posted at 15:11:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The wigation
DocFail ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:13:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Wiggening
P0sitive_Outlook ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:16:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hell toupรฉe.
AVPapaya ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no wall can stop that.
PlanetMarklar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wigration
enjoyyourshrimp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
eh, I guess it fits.. kinda. here you go, I guess
DeputyDomeshot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
5.5/10
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just hope it doesn't get trapped behind our Great Wall
PeperAndSoltIt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The great immigration
kawaiihellothere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me must build a wall
CopiesArticleComment ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/zct9ari.jpg
OsamaBinLatin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But hair is already dead. :(
Wirocajun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:28 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hopefully the brain doesn't go with it and dumbify the next host.
IfoundItForYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:31 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here ya go.
Weekndr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if trump is just a host for his hair? And the next host will try to run for president too!
The_CrookedMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if his hair piece is just a cleverly disguised brain slug?
gildoth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:39:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a piece, its the most poofed and carefully glued together comb over ever attempted!
RapperOnDrugs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:41:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At 4 billion he can't afford bosley or rogaine?
zmansman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trumps hair on Kanye...
CanSeeYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nice! could someone color his beard accordingly?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I had any money I would give you gold!
givesgoldforyou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let me take care of that for you.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are awesome, thank you!
Entouchable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine if the evil hair is what controls his actions and makes him behave the way he does.
rshot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:22:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's already started to move on to Taylor Swift
CarpetPuncher ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:58:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The goa'uld hairpiece.
zijital ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:21:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is Trump a Trill?
InvictusProsper ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:30:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Similar to the Angry Eyebrows.
Oggie243 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:07:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like Snake's wig that takes over Homer's brain.
Cosmic_Hitchhiker ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:20:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is true. Everything that he says is actually the alien parasite we see as his hair controlling his body. The real Donald Trump can see everything thats happening but can't prevent it. He is weeping and desperately begging to be set free.
JD_1994_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:21:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Will it start by giving the new host a small loan of a million dollars?
Sectoid_Dev ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:38:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Join the brain slug party
vooffle ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:03:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's his plan to make America great again?
AdamBombTV ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:51:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"That's right America, you elected an actual Vampire".
...
FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS!
bulletprooftampon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:49:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's hilarious when people actually defend his rhetoric and try to make it seem like he's beyond clever for making a mockery of the system. My outspoken drunk deadbeat uncle has literally said the same stupid shit at family outings for the past 15 years and the only one to ever take him seriously is my other drunk racist uncle.
spoRADicalme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:13:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie would turn into the crypt keeper.
shwag945 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His hair with remain the same.
BBQChipCookie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I don't know. I can't see him really internalizing the shit that happens under his Presidency. I feel like everything would just roll off his shoulders. He'd probably be the only President to look the same or better after a term or two.
chinesetrapgod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:15:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine if Bernard wins, he'd turn into ashes two years later.
wh1036 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:19:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cheeto dust to be exact.
AnxietyExpress ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:19:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Imagine if Trump wins"
Not even once.
BarryBlue42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:22:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie would turn into a ghost
meatduck12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine what would happen to Sanders. Hopefully, his vice president is as good as him.
Frapplo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See, I think it'd make him stronger. He seems to feed off the negativity, like a vampire feeds off blood.
Boro84 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:51:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What would turn to dust first, him, or this great nation?
PM_ME_YOUR_FURSUITS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woah.
BillsFan90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Trump's defense, the guy is used to working long days and short nights. High-energy by nature which I am not sure Obama was
sugar_free_haribo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:48:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah Obama is pretty low T
squishles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hillary is 68, Trump is 69, Sanders is 74. No matter who we pick they're probably leaving the office in a coffin.
PM_ME_YOUR_FURSUITS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woah, Dark. Probably some truth to it tho.
CaneVandas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People talk about Sanders' age but most don't seem to realize that Trump is 70. He's not far behind.
sugar_free_haribo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trump is a beast..he'll come out looking the same
N1CK_G3RR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
C'mon, its Trump, he's not going to take politics seriously enough for that to happen.
sweatybronson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trump would stay about the same. The Presidency is stressful because you make important decisions that affect millions of lives and the course of world history.
This is stressful if you care about other people. If you only care about yourself, meh, whatever. The adrenaline from all that power might actually make him look and feel younger.
luv2race ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trump?! Wtf would hilary be?
brohamianrhapsody ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like there's a good chance Trump wouldn't stress out on the job as much as other presidents. Does Trump want to be woken up at 3AM with a terrorism alert? No. He'd probably delegate all that stuff in favor of a more relaxing lifestyle. Just my 2 cents.
RedditTipiak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He chose... poorly...
flamingtoetaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then what will Bernie look like?
boomcgoowoohoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trump would grow stronger and emanate golden rays of freedom from the tips of his golden locks. Other countries would begin to worship him as a deity while America wins the World Cup, Davis Cup, Ryder Cup, President's Cup, and couple of other cups. All virgins will get laid and all SJWs will join cults like the Reaganites or Reaganetians with the central tenet a belief in supply side economics. He's going to make America great again.
stabby_joe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:58:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. Age anything to anything is a bitch if you're president in that time.
di3l0n ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
politics. not. even. once.
iushciuweiush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It really is. In politics the ideal job is the senate. Power, money, perks out the ass, and you largely fly under the radar. There is a reason why it seems like most presidential candidates are nut jobs.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its a real breaking bad kinda job
fnhflexy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read this as the meth of polyjuice
I Think I've read enough HP fanfic.
godlycow78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
r/theydidthemeth
USAuthority ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
really? i would never want that job.
antilaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are YouTube videos about how Obama smoked crack before he was pres, maybe he smokes allot of crack, also that Obama had gay oral giving to him. YouTube search Obama is gay proof.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought meth was the meth of political jobs
cold_iron_76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, the first three years have been nothing but constant criticism, sleepless nights, constant scrutiny by an entire nation. Know what? I want five more years of that shit. I'm running for reelection!
[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 15:06:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Nebias ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:24:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish someone would have told that to 16 year old me. Maybe then I wouldn't have gotten this small patch of grey hair on my temple area when I was super stressed for weeks. Haven't gotten any other grey hair on my head since (a little over 10 years) but that grey patch remains ever vigilant.
As for genetics, my father is 56 years old and in poor health but he still has only a little little grey hair on his head of brown hair and never had a grey patch like i do. Beard is a different story.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone gets gray hair, but the sadness and those stresslines in his face say it all.
kickulus ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:33:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scientific proof not necessary. Just look at every president before and after.
xXEvanatorXx ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:44:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at anyone 8 years later... the results are generally the same.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 32, and am starting to grey. Yet my life is less stressful than it was a couple years ago.
Age is what makes you go grey. C'mon.
sick_gainz ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 14:44:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you smoke it is.
PM_ME_YO_FANTASY ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 14:49:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does he still smoke? I though he quit before he entered office or shortly after?
[deleted] ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 14:54:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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gsav55 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:10:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the self control needed to be in a position to become potus speaks for itself.
Bran_TheBroken ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:48:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Self control is a limited mental resource. Having a lot in one area of your life doesn't necessarily mean you have it in others, and it may even mean you have less. Look at Bill Clinton for an obvious example.
cgibson6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man this is so true. Thanks for pointing it out. I am vigilant with work but when it comes to eating healthy I cannot do shit about it. Its like I use all my self control points on other things or something.
irishbball49 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:15:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He said in GQ article this past month he has not smoked since Healthcare passed (so 5 years?).
Typical_Whiteboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He did the whole quit for the wife deal. So when she's not around one of his dudes hits him with a smoke and everyone knows it's their balls if she finds out. But she really probably already knows.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 14:50:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He still heavily smokes just tries to hide it
Lies-All-The-Time ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 14:58:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol why do people make something like this up
Kohvazein ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:00:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out lmao. It's crazy how people pass off their own lack of understanding as fact instead of opinion.
FamousButthole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I seen him!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:07:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He bummed a cigarette from me on Air Force One two days ago.
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hateisgoodforyou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:13:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I don't know.
If I was a president trying to smoke, I'd just daydream about how much I'd like to and could nuke countries I don't like to past the hard time.
One one hand there are humanitarian issues, on the other it would solve a lot of problems... Would it affect the oil? Maybe I'll nuke the Middle East and then ask Steve from Blues Clues if he could molest a kid so people would be distracted. Or I could send the CEO of Comcast to Gautamano Bay and people will forgive me...
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:00:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Got any evidence?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/244497-obama-smoking-president-caught-on-camera-holding-pack-of-cigarettes
As recently as the summer of 2015 he got caught
Click_Shit_Get_Hit ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:08:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This update suggests he wasn't holding a pack..
Your use of the word "heavily" is peculiar...
Did you actually read the article?
This is officially not evidence..
kupovi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cant blame the president for smoking. It's a ridiculous occupation.
If anything, I'd prefer he smoked. He needs something to calm him down
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:24:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And what did they say it was? They didn't ask any further. It was 100% cigarettes, of course they want to cover it up.
purplepeach ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:36:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Do you have any evidence other than you saying that? It's a white object. It looks similar to a pack of cigarettes. Does that mean it IS cigarettes? No, it doesn't. You can't see what the package is and you're just assuming it's cigarettes because you want to be right.
Now I would like to believe that he has quit completely because I don't feel that anyone should do that to themselves. I don't know about you, but I was a heavy smoker for several years and it's not easy to give it up, especially when you're in high stress situations. So even if it IS a pack of cigarettes, I'm not going to judge him for it. People backslide and struggle to quit addictive substances. Some one who has never battled addiction (and I'm not assuming you haven't) does not have the same perspective on the battle that another addict would have.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:45:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So we're going to go with guilty until proven innocent then?
humanlvl1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And you know this how
Notmyrealname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cigarettes, yeah.
teefour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would you quit if you were president? I fucking wouldn't. Plus you can get constant free checkups to catch any complications at the earliest possible time. And after that, the top doctors and most cutting edge procedures at your disposal, and first in line for transplants. Hell, they'd probably go to the VA and just harvest one with a good set of lungs.
Lung cancer? New lungs. Emphysema? New lungs. Artherosclerosis? New heart and arteries. It's like practically risk free smoking.
I just hope he decided to finally be a man and smoke normal cigarettes instead of menthols.
degjo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think I've ever seen a black man smoke non menthols. And if they bum one from someone they pop a stick of gum and smoke
faen_du_sa ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quitting smoking just as you start a heavily stressfull job sounds like it wont last long.
ChunkyTruffleButter ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:48:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you are the president it is.
bulletprooftampon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you smoke it is.
asylum117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He stopped smoking once he was elected. So based on your argument, smoking makes you look better than when you don't.
Call_erv_duty ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:00:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure he quit
Takeme2yourleader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every president has proven that
xhandler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or football manager. Same years, but ten years younger than Obama.
cgibson6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No its really a bitch for everyone
Notmyrealname ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:04:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the father of girls.
[deleted] ยท 446 points ยท Posted at 14:58:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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modernbenoni ยท 190 points ยท Posted at 15:04:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is indeed his first address to congress (you can tell by the tie and the background).
CRISPR ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:20:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, that "screw you congress" tie.
readit16 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:24:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Time to re-oil my pitchfork
CopiesArticleComment ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking it was more of a congress tie
Pidgey_OP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and by seeing many shoops in your time?
leelu_dallas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still, even at 7 years apart instead of 8.... he looks like he's aged 20 years in that time.
Mynameisnotdoug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm right around the age he was when he started his presidency. The next decade will apparently be my undoing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Mynameisnotdoug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It won't be a SOTU in '17. The first SOTU from a new president will be in '18.
OB1_kenobi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing he's not doing a third term or he'd end up looking like Mandela.
Mynameisnotdoug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or this guy
Rihsatra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/u/ibleedorange wouldn't just lie like that for imaginary points.
jedberg ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:11:01 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's just silly semantics though. He presented to a joint session of congress about the current state of our union and his plan for the next year. He just didn't call it a SOTU.
Mynameisnotdoug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:56 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody calls it a SoU, because it isn't. This isn't unique to his presidency.
jedberg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:35 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No but just as many Presidents have delivered a State of the Union during their first weeks as have not. Kennedy called his a State of the Union, as did Eisenhower and Ford (although Ford was admittedly taking over a Presidency).
Firefly_07 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 15:28:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately.
Mynameisnotdoug ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:48:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HA! That's edgy, you're awesome!
ismoketabacco ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 14:41:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The worst part is, that's a time in which people do undergo some physical changes, from adulthood to elderhood. However, Obama's seems to be much more extreme than what you would naturally see.
[deleted] ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 14:48:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at comparisons of all presidents - they are all like this.
Noble_Flatulence ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 14:56:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at comparisons of (anyone in that age bracket) - they are all like this.
Shhadowcaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt 8 years is quite this evident in everyone.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure it is. Pick an 8 year period in anyone at any point in their life and I'm sure that one of them will show a significant change.
chuckymcgee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://guardianlv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Keanu-Reeves-Is-He-Immortal-650x331.jpg
inthegameoflife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
6 years...
cdub4521 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:34:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah I looked up some people same age and Clooney, Eddie Murphy, and Tim Roth all haven't aged nearly as much
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:11:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not true. I have pics of my grandmother, father and great grandmother from those ages. Stress is a huge component of aging, and the POTUS is always stressed.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:27:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Gawd_Awful ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:30:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The presidents have access to, without exaggeration, the best healthcare in the world, even after they are done serving. They don't have to deal with the same bullshit healthcare the rest of us do.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:55:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Gawd_Awful ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:03:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They have the best doctors, so they catch potential problems sooner, get better treatments, better meds and prodcedures. Don't be dense.
ArabIDF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also the never have to worry about money. Stress only matters while they're in office. They probably have incredibly stress free lives after.
Milith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not Keanu Reeves.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:01:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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TheIncredibleWalrus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:08:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sources, both of you.
arclathe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's only not true for really fat people.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:02:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean to say all presidents are noticeably aged after several years of aging? I find that hard to believe /s
ismoketabacco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, no doubt. But what I meant is that, in my opinion, presidents do seem to age stronger than people in those same ages.
happywaffle ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 14:48:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go look at GWB or Clinton. Same deal.
jimethn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Link?
CRISPR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You two keep sending us to look at presidents, like there is some kind of a searchable database of all websites that you can google using keywords.
BTW: http://www.boredpanda.com/before-and-after-term-us-presidents/
Bush obviously did cocaine during his presidency, Lincoln did meth, Clinton drunk like Russian, but did not change much because he has been loved by people around him, JFK got younger by the time of his murder, FDR changed the quality of photography, Reagan, like JFK, got younger, Truman, Eisenhower and Nixon did not change.
Obama: "8 years as a slave".
moammargaret ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, Reagan. Napping and Alzheimer's do wonders for your complexion.
deHavillandDash8Q400 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:54:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hillary already looks bad lol so does BernieBerni
ismoketabacco ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:01:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, Sanders is 74... I wouldn't expect anything else.
YouMustChill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:03:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can fuck right off with "elderhood". I'm not even a proper adult yet.
popeye284 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's true for all presidents. I think they've estimated that the office aged you at a pace of 4 years for every 1.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:15:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here is Jon Stewart, who is only one year younger than the president, in 2008 and again last month. I think what people attribute to "being the president makes you age" is really just normal aging for that age range.
Takeme2yourleader ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:00:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Putin doesn't seem to age
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:37:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is robot
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Takeme2yourleader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahah
artast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's a Vampire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJEF8r6K1uE
bookon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:02:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was 43 when he became president and look almost exactly like my pictures from that time. It's crazy what stress does to you. I have friends my age (50) who look 60 and some who look 35.
AutoMativeX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:01:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard to believe it has been eight years already...
ballstatemarine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only job that ages someone more suddenly is being a Korean or Russian girl turning 40.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:02:15 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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dsa_key ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:17:29 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take my upvote you (presumably) beautiful 52 year old guy,
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:26 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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MajorLzr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
when leader of the free world you become, look as good you will not, hmm?
Offthepoint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirmโฆ
Gen_Dave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie has gone grey
PigSlam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, he even switched from right to left handed during that time.
mattdan79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah just being the president is enough apparently. Take a look at Lincoln.
http://m.imgur.com/gallery/2mSsh4P
savethetriffids ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you've ever seen the documentary "56 Up" you'd see this. (It was on Netflix) It follows a group of people from age 7 on and interviews them every 7 years. The age intervals until they are 42-49 seem pretty reasonable. Then BAM, they look ancient by 56.
Tinidril ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, I'm 45. :(
CykoTom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From the perspective of elovution this is the point at which males become unnecessary, and therefore need to start to die to make room for the next generation.
Brokenbonebrian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder what JFK would have looked like after 8 years if he wasn't killed.
GLOOTS_OF_PEACE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn this nigga looked fresh at 46
GLOOTS_OF_WAR ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:49:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He stopped dying his shit fam. He hopped off that TRT. That kills you fam.
GLOOTS_OF_PEACE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:44 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But his bbc genetics should keep him going strong, he needs to jump back on dat dere
peetdk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It'll be interesting to see him when he turns 66.
zephyrtr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Certainly, but you also have to remember that there's little about Obama's appearance that isn't intentional. People were making these comparisons after just 1 year in office.
It's most likely Obama had a lot of gray hair while he was campaigning in 2008, but was dying it black so as to appear younger. People who vote Democrat, after all, tend to prefer younger candidates โ and so Obama had to look young. Republics prefer older candidates, and so hide only some if any of their graying hair.
Once in office, Obama had to look authoritative, and age tends to convey that โ so his dressers stopped aggressively dying his hair. Simple as that.
cats_are_ugly0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone who is the same age as Obama should track down photos of themselves at these two ages.
bluedevil0423 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if the difference between 38 and 46 is just as stark.
Nerdn1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Making decisions that will save some but doom others
Truly the president must carry the weight of the world on their shoulders. Obama's presidency was far from the most burdensome, but was harder than a fair number.
sports_and_wine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My dad is 66 with a full head of brown hair. Conversely, my mother's hair turned white at 30. I will soon find out whether or not I struck out in the gene pool.
TheMediumPanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He honestly could pass for 30 in the first picture. The second one,, 54 seems about right.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Turning 46 this year. Don't say that!
BillyTheSillygoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're Asian
JewInDaHat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No no. The bitch is 43 to 46 NSFL http://i.imgur.com/O0EdBfR.png
alars1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
being 56, I agree wholeheartedly! Like a runaway train.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It sure is. Makes a right handed man, left handed.
UltimoHombre07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude is a smoker too.
snowfaller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, it was just a lot of stress for him to have to continually pay people off and do things to prevent the real birth certificate from coming out. /s
RaptorMang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trying to destroy a country takes its toll.
dohawayagain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why did it make his voice go up a full octave?
ben_jamin_h ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
also they have chosen a picture of a determined and optimistic facial expression contrasted with a tired and resigned expression...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also he smokes and that takes a toll.
IAmRareBatman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at other people. I.e. Patrick Stewart. A key part is about being healthy and minimal stress.
logicrulez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Your body's health will peak from 19-25 and you can extend that until about 35 with exercise. After that, your body is running past the warrantee. A Russian friend put it well this way; Every day that you wake up after 50 is a bonus
DrAstralis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still convinced the US government has time travel and that every new president goes into a time pocket where they get brought up to speed on everything the US is really up to. It takes about 5-10 years, then they're returned at the exact moment they vanished in order to take office.
Poopedmypantstoday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess he really put himself into all that golfing. Cant see why hed be so stressed doing nothing.
Beaglepower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 47. Fuck.
elldeh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confronting with Russia, China and the US public opinion too.
brownlec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like his current look better. I think when people get old they look more respectable, and that they have more knowledge on life, which they do.
SAT0725 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also the later photo is a high-resolution photograph and the other is blurry and what looks like a screengrab from a video, which shows way less detail
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably all the innocents that have died or been imprisoned because of him.
Naw, j/k. Psycopaths aren't harmed by stuff like that
HarryScrotes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're president it is..
salsadoom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, I'm 36. You look at pictures of me when I was 28, it looks like a different person. Back then I still had great, big dreams and ambition. Now my dreams are just about paying off debt and life is about waiting for it all to be over.
Shadow_XG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
with makeup and black hair air dye to look young and strong, and then without with gray hair dye to look wizened and experienced. it's an old strategy
MyKidsHaveGonorrhea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not if you're Asian.
fe3o4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
too much time on golf courses
MatrixPA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't know the half of it...............
WizardofWindows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, it's from all the golf he's played while in office instead of taking care of the country
aleinadd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:28 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could also be that there was more of an emphasis on his appearance at the beginning of his presidency than the end.
GoldfishAvenger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:44 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eight years of living in a state of constant stress is the real bitch.
WormSlayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:31 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously time has passed, but to me it kind of looks like: First picture; freshly elected, still dying his hair and trying to look youthful. Second picture; isnt up for re-election, has no fucks to give anymore?
Also kind of looks like the newer photo is originally higher resolution than the old one?
Lnfinite_god ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:59 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Age 47*
MongooseCrusader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:15:58 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bet he never wears sunscreen either.
-FingerBang- ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:02:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm pretty sure if Bernie gets elected he's going to die during or directly after his first term. This isn't an argument against the guy.
myhairsreddit ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:16:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what everyone said about McCain if he got elected and he's still kickin.
theedge2195 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:27:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But he also was not the president.
ThePolemicist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a common argument when a candidate is either old or has some sort of health ailment. If that's truly a concern of a voter (and it could be), then I think it's important to look at the running mates after they're selected.
BillsFan90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Considering he will be unable to get anything done with Congress and that will frustrate the hell out of him, yes.
bestbeforeMar91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you haven't picked a date yet?
dirtydmix ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:44:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smoking will also speed up the look of aging.
ChunkyTruffleButter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its mostly how stressful of job being president is. Look at past presidents.
dirtydmix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course. Which is why I used the word "also" I wasn't saying it was only based on age and smoking.
Digitalflux ยท 4983 points ยท Posted at 13:38:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he looks so tired.
apalapachya ยท 2662 points ยท Posted at 14:40:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks sad
[deleted] ยท 2252 points ยท Posted at 15:12:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like he is sick of this shite
[deleted] ยท 1100 points ยท Posted at 15:27:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sick of our shit
pistoncivic ยท 1237 points ยท Posted at 16:22:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, Obama!
RoisterRod ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 18:13:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope this becomes the new "Thanks Obama"
Wirocajun ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:18:15 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He influenced our country and took our shit, taking on wrinkles, congressmen, and the country, trying his hardest.
Thanks, obama.
go_half_the_way ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:03:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, Obama!
Sackyhack ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:04:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, Obama!
BHObamanator2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:22:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apology accepted, Captain /u/go_half_the_way
neildegrasstokem ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:54:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My bad, prez
griter34 ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 17:25:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But YOU SUCK
A_Furious_Mind ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:35:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Worst. Constituents. Ever.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:09:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is now left handed. Things politics does.
ninja_muffin99 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:45:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, /u/pistoncivic
poopy_wizard132 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, /u/ninja_muffin99
Naterade18 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:19:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, /u/poopy_wizard132
ISOFM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:22:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, /u/Naterade18
original-brickhouse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:23:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, /u/ISOFM
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:36:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, /u/cumdumpster666
iebarnett51 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:35:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, /u/cumdumpster666
Misterspyder2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, /u/original-brickhouse
Dear_Fuck_WHY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:57:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, /u/original-brickhouse
metsh8er ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, /u/Dear_Fuck_WHY
Trollin4Lyfe ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:49:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found the Canadian.
Slimjeezy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take some reddit silver
Roller_ball ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:45:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Thanks, America!"
edgykitty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This should be a thing once he's not president.
BHObamanator2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No worries.
prostatamassaga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Obama!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doot doot!
BoldlyBraveSirRobin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know exactly to who's to blame....Obama!
Grigss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Obama.
BHObamanator2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're Welcome!
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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BHObamanator2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're Welcome!
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:22:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's not forget that he also has 2 daughters who aged from 8-16 and 5-13 during his term as President. That shit would wear anybody down.
gnfknr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:08:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
looks like he's aged almost a decade
TheKMJK ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:22:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, 8 years is almost a decade
gnfknr ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:42:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's almost as if he's human
TheKMJK ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:56:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, we'll I would hope so (country accent) better not be one of them damned reptiles controlling the government cocks shotgun
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
licks eyeball
buenoooo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:02:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Obama....for putting up with our shit.
BHObamanator2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're Welcome!
f1sh_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:36:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sick of your shit
mapcrocker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sick of your shit, I'm in canadia
yusbarrett ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:36:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sick of Republican shit. Totally understandable.
KiNG_PRiM3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:19:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good job America...
JayceeThunder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:(
theonedollarbill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He could have to take a shit.
eevee23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sick of Fox News viewers accusing him of being a muslim and immigrant.
notablack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sick of ordering drone strikes.
SrgtStadanko ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 15:54:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The feeling is mutual for me, I'm not sad at all that his time is finally ending.
Edit: Why?
The reauthorization of the Patriot Act and the expansion of domestic spying, the passing of the Dream Act by fiat, unconstitutional appointments to the NLRB, Obamacare, increasing the administrative bureaucracy that further erodes seperation of powers, severe lack of government transparency, and his disastrous foreign policy.
There's a handful off the top of my head.
robinvuurdraak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:06:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
why
RapperOnDrugs ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:27:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
conservative circlejerk
SrgtStadanko ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:47:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The majority of the country disapprove of Obama and 70% think the country is heading in the wrong direction. You're mistaken if you believe only conservatives think he's not been a good president.
RapperOnDrugs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but our countries been fucked for a long time soo..
SrgtStadanko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So how does that make any criticism of Obama a "conservative circlejerk"? And how does Obama adding to the country being "fucked for a long time" not deserve criticism?
RapperOnDrugs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:44 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He pulled us out of the recession that bush started? Conservatives never liked him of course they're gonna say he was shit
SrgtStadanko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:35 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did he pull us out of the recession?
RapperOnDrugs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:03 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
By creating jobs and lowering the unemployment rate? Also pulling many troops out of the costly war that bush started out of stupidity.
Plus he killed fuckin osama
SrgtStadanko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:45 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did Obama create jobs and lower the unemployment rate?
RapperOnDrugs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:18 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do your own research.
SrgtStadanko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:54 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe Obama did anything to create jobs or lower the unemployment rate, in fact, his policies actually slowed and hurt the recovery.
RapperOnDrugs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:38 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't matter what you believe, those are facts.
SrgtStadanko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:07 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Prove it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:23 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SrgtStadanko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:54 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fed policy has hurt capital investment.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fed-has-hurt-business-investment-1445899627
Dodd-Frank hurt small business and reduced lending.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/dodd-franks-effect-on-small-banks-is-muted-1443993212
Obamacare is putting more Americans on the government tit and is reducing the labor force to the equivalent of 2 million jobs.
https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/114th-congress-2015-2016/workingpaper/51065-ACA_Labor_Market_Effects_WP.pdf
Your turn sport, show me how smart you are.
SrgtStadanko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:07 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where's your proof genius? Bulldog mouth with a puppy dog ass it seems.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:40 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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SrgtStadanko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:00 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not defending anyone. I just gave you proof that Obama and his legislation that he fought for and passed actually hurt growth and the labor force.
You say he created jobs, so what did he do that created jobs? I backed my claims, why can't you?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:47 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SrgtStadanko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:39 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't cite shit. You didn't have a problem talking shit, but you don't have the time to actually prove your argument. Weak
Remember this next time you want to run your ignorant mouth.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:23 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SrgtStadanko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:02 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
White boy? You're a racist? Hahahaha
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:40 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SrgtStadanko ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:19:06 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your family came here illegally then I have little sympathy for them. They could have gone through the legal channels that let in a million immigrants a year.
Your family ignored our laws and spat in the face of all the people who did and are trying to do it legally.
I don't care what race you are, we are a nation of laws and your family didn't give a shit. So get the fuck out.
robinvuurdraak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who would you like to see as a next president? And Who could have done it beter?
SrgtStadanko ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:45:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm voting for Trump in the primary and if he wins the nomination I'll vote for him in the general.
I think we would be better off today if Romney was elected.
robinvuurdraak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What plans of Trump do you support?
SrgtStadanko ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:58:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His tax plan is estimated to grow capital investment by 29%, grow GDP by 11%, add over 5 million jobs, and increase wages over 6%. It simplifies our tax code and ends loopholes and deductions which is needed. It gives a one time reparation tax of 10% to corporations currently keeping their money overseas, as well as lowers our corporate tax rate to combat inversions.
He will actually enforce our immigration laws and actually combat illegal immigration. He wants to make a national eVerify to combat corporations employing illegals. He wants to defund sanctuary cities which are ignoring federal law. Reduce H1-B visas which means more jobs for the American worker.
There's a few reasons why I support him.
robinvuurdraak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And no plans to stop mass shottings?
robinvuurdraak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And what if this aticle is right and the taxcut will add a missive debt? http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/donald-trumps-amazingly-conventional-tax-plan/407713/
SrgtStadanko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's based off of the same estimates that I used, they're from the Tax Foundation. The estimates for debt are based on current spending and economic growth, they can't factor in spending cuts or economic growth because they don't know the future.
So it's not accurate to say that the deficit would increase that much, the Tax Foundation states that in their estimates. If you read the article you already know this.
robinvuurdraak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:18:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why Trump? He seems like a rasist idiot to me.
robinvuurdraak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And which plans that he has do you support?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:53:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want a guy wearing a cowboy hat and camo and those sporty black sunglasses. That would mean his ideals align with mine, no matter what else he does.
SrgtStadanko ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:59:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who is that?
idonotknowwhoiam ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 16:21:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are conservative I understand why; if not - then why?
SrgtStadanko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did an edit to my original comment.
idonotknowwhoiam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you tovarish Sergeant.
SrgtStadanko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ะขะพะฒะฐัะธั, Sergeant Stedanko is a character from Cheech and Chong. Nothing to do with the former USSR.
idonotknowwhoiam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your name has Stadanko, not Stedanko. Tovarish', ne putayte mne mozg.
nik67 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Making rounds on any remotely political threads talking down Obama or any "liberals" again?
SrgtStadanko ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:21:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am I supposed to remember who you are? I don't, so you'll have to refresh my memory.
Shnikies ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:38:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well I'm sick of his shit. Lecturing me when he's the one arming terrorists in Iraq and Syria.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 16:28:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:29:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
we*
*not actually we, just you.
rreighe2 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/SorryObama
wowsuchdoge_wow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:35:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Precisely.
residentevol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:31:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sick of this shiite
wetpipe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
probably sick of sunni as well
Electricbassguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll buy him a Dijon mustard burger. Those are damn good.
billyjohn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks 8 years older and tons of stress.
sharedburneraccount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to the club.
adescuentechable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's too old for this shit.
system1326 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost as if he's getting too old for this shit.
inthyface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like he's getting too old for this shit.
CannibalVegan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shi'ite?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, shit.
vape-jesus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
JafBot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably sick of his own shit, those bags grow with each lie he tells and moral he bends.
Bananawamajama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's actually the Sunnis that are the problem atm
misanthrowp ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 15:27:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking over an entire country is stressful.
GrayFox7 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:34:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to hate myself for asking, but how did he fuck over the ENTIRE country?
Mgamerz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:39:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously letting gay people get married, duh. They're gonna take over this nation!!1!
RigidChop ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 15:45:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woah, look at that scathing political commentary. I bet that took a lot of effort.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:24:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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RigidChop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I understand your point, and I think that this topic really highlights the establishment GOP's "small government" hypocrisy, but-- there are true conservatives like Rand out there with real solutions to problems, but they get kicked down the curb and labeled "fringe candidates."
misanthrowp ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 15:57:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg. No point. I will not be able to dissuade you from your liberal insanity. Good luck to you.
GrayFox7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:05:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Way to make a completely inaccurate assumption on my political stance.
misanthrowp ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 16:07:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you are not an obamanite?
Unless you are a follower, you know of his crimes against the american people already.
AnthroNJ ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:20:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no worse than the crimes of his predecessor. I wont say Obama is a great president. But congress in his time has done much worse for this country then Obama did. When the entire GOP is "don't let obama do anything, and never compromise on anything" as the entire Right wing has gotten increasingly crazy, less intelligent, more racist, and more and more for the 1% and no one else. The GOP in the last 8 years have been totally hijacked by insane people who are anti environment, anti women, anti non-whites, anti- non Christians, and anti-science. They have done for more damage to America, and threatened to do even more in the future.
misanthrowp ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 16:27:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Congress represents the will of the people. Obama negates the will of the people like hitler did. Imperial edict. If we had some generals with some balls, the problem would be solved very quickly.
AnthroNJ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:30:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama is not like Hitler, don't bring out stupid fucking comparisons. As of date, no president the Us has ever had has been like Hitler. and no Congress DO NOT reflect the will of the people. Are you on drugs? or just watch Fox News? Congress has actively done NOTHING to help america in nearly 8 years! They make laws and rules that help corporations and the wealthiest of Americans. And reflect the will of them wanting to be reelected! Congress has hurt america more than Obama has. Please come back to reality.
misanthrowp ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 16:37:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama was elected for history, not for the benefit of the country. Congress and the senate ARE the people. Obama cannot get anything done, becausethe people don't like his policies. Blacks like his handouts, queers like his fawning support for their perverse culture. 98% of america are against obama.
TRUMP 2016!!
AnthroNJ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:02:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OHHHH, you are a racist, homophobic, asshat with the IQ of a soap dish. I'm sorry I thought I was conversing with an intelligent adult. Well, please fuck off and have a nice day you poor excuse for an American
misanthrowp ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 17:12:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
B.A., M.A., high school assistant principal. How 'bout your credentials?
Typical liberal zombie. No attempt to counter with anything but puerile name calling and tantrums. I will counter your childish insults in true liberal fashion: I know you are, but what am I?
AnthroNJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
none of your arguments have ANY foundation in reality. And from what you said, racist and homophobic isn't calling names but stating what you are. plus your a trump supporter, who unlike any US president does speak like, and want to make the same moves as one Adolf Hitler. Enjoy supporting your fascism.
SuperHeroChrisMo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bro, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this guy is a mega troll. Leave him be and hopefully he'll crawl back under his bridge. If not a troll, he's so far gone that we can't save him with logic unfortunately.
AnthroNJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. His account has been active for 7 months, and looks like he just leaves comments meant to anger. I was going to respond to his last comment. And decided it wasn't worth my time
misanthrowp ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:22:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uneducated liberal simpleton. "Tell me what to think and I will think it."
TRUMP 2016
HE WILL REMOVE YOUR BLINDERS.
crackersthecrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is so far divorced from reality that it's laughable. He has maintained a 47% approval rating through his terms.
misanthrowp ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:48:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So..by your own admission, a MAJORITY OF AMERICANS DO NOT APPROVE OF BARACK OBAMA.
Thank you.
crackersthecrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't move the goalposts. You said 98% were against him, not a majority. Don't say ridiculous shit and then backpedal.
misanthrowp ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
98% is a majority. 53% is a majority.
In the words of hillary clinton, "what does it matter?"
crackersthecrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You specifically said 98%. You were wrong.
misanthrowp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:02 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"What does it matter?" --hillary rodham clinton
AyyShawty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao
misanthrowp ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:56:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hillary often brings out that response. Obama, too.
i_love_pencils ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:07:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read this as "shiite". Does this make me a bad person?
ultra_libtard3 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:07:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good, vast amount of Americans are sick of his shit.
FaveFoodIsLesbeans ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:14:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sick of the Sunni, too.
phydeaux70 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:12:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's not the only one that is sick of it.
Gamerjackiechan2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:21:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:26:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'd be pretty pissed about my shitty performance as pres too.
what_it_dude ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:56:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing because many of us are sick of his shit.
somaganjika ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More like sick of those Shiites. JK, Shiites are the good ones.
Secksiignurd ยท 466 points ยท Posted at 15:16:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get the feeling he had some really good centrist-liberal (Blue Dog) policies he wanted to propose, and fight for, but certain aspects of government, namely: The Deep State, the real owners of this country, didn't want those things. Money begets more money, and people in power always want more power.
Of course Obamacare is a disaster: The health industry wrote its own regulations, and now profits are codified into law -- damn the little guy who can barely afford premiums of universal health care.
I think he did the best he could, but his hands were tied by the very special money interests that needed to be regulated in the first place.
qroshan ยท 126 points ยท Posted at 15:49:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
For people who have been utterly brainwashed by conservative media, bankrolled by Billionaires
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/images/092215_CEAHealthCare-Chart1.png
Secksiignurd ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 15:53:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, of course not, and now you're putting words in my mouth. Of course those bullet points are good things with Obamacare, yet: Those were the bullet points that were fed to the people to get codified profits into law, and the people wouldn't accept a completely wet blanket on a bill that was written for the health industry.
There is no control of health costs: Health costs, (premiums), increased under this law. The state dictates which doctors sick people go to.
ffxivthrowaway03 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 15:56:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're still welcome to get your own healthcare, you don't need an Obamacare plan.
I don't think anyone's saying Obamacare is a perfect system of US socialized medicine, but it's still a hell of a lot better than the nothing we had before. I'm just glad someone stood up to take the first step.
DeeJayGeezus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:54:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a step towards socialized health care at all; in fact, it's backwards. All it did was force everyone to get private insurance plans, which is about as far from socializing anything as you can get. Obamacare was ruined as soon as Congress couldn't get a public government option passed
MouseRat_AD ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:13:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I'm NOT free to get my own healthcare plan. The law changed what companies are allowed to offer, and now I've got to pay for coverage i don't want.
miparasito ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 16:23:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is true that you're no longer able to buy scammy shitty fake insurance.
batdog666 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:48:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just reduced coverage insurance. If you know the coverage is less it isn't a scam.
redditor___ ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:44:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, now you are have to 'buy' it. Sorry, but insurance plan which costs you more than uninsured healthcare in developed country is a scam.
ZielAubaris ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:31:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well that's what happens when the republicans get their hands on anything. Imagine how different this conversation would be if obamacare had been implemented more like the UK's universal healthcare NHS system.
NichySteves ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of the insurance offered up by the affordable healthcare act could also be called shitty fake insurance.
miparasito ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you give me an example?
lemonparty ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, yes. Now I'm forced to buy a plan with maternity benefits and pediatric dental. Even though I'm a man, with no kids.
Fucking scam insurance, giving me exactly what I want in a plan! Glad the government is here, I'm too stupid to buy insurance on my own -- can't sniff out a scam.
miparasito ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:12:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ALL insurance is designed to spread the risk. That's how it works. If you don't want to do that, ditch your insurance and buy your medical services outright as you need them.
ffxivthrowaway03 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:19:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh... what?
The healthcare exchange is in addition to traditional healthcare insurance options, it did not replace them. You're absolutely able to get non-obamacare coverage as an individual or through a company benefits package. There is no law that says you must only buy an obamacare plan.
Jericho5589 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:22:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're missing his point. He's right.
Basically, Obamacare made other forms of insurance more expensive by changing certain laws regarding insurance policies.
ffxivthrowaway03 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:32:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What was his point then? Cost was never a factor in this discussion, and nobody is denying that buying your own health insurance is expensive.
All he said was "But I'm NOT free to get my own healthcare plan." Which is false. He's absolutely free to get his own healthcare plan instead of an Obamacare plan, whether or not he can afford the plan he wants is a totally different discussion.
superfunny ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:41:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the disagreement hinges on what you call "an Obamacare plan" - if you mean a plan that is made available via Obamacare subsidies, then you're right. However, Obamacare mandates that all insurance plans are required to offer certain things, whether you want them or not, so you're not free to get a healthcare plan that doesn't meet these requirements.
ffxivthrowaway03 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:52:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean yeah, if nobody sells the exact combination of coverages you happen to decide you want then of course you can't buy it. Seems a silly thing to get hung up on. Yes it costs more, but you're also getting more coverage. Those lowball plans they did away with were marketed as cheap alternatives but left most people grossly underinsured. They were the insurance version of the bad financial products banks suckered poor people into buying into that were such a big part of the subprime mortgage crisis. They didn't know better because they thought they "had health insurance."
Jamoobafoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:57:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get what you're saying but when you're paying a ton more per month for something you dont want I can see how that would upset you, and I don't really see how it's silly at all.
If you had to pay 300 more dollars per month for your car because the government made it law that they have a lightning cable port that you don't want and doesn't apply to you.. You would've upset right? Who cares if it has more features.. You don't want that feature.
I get you're point, I just don't get how you don't get that it's not silly to get hung up on that. In the end you're life matters most by miles to you as it should. If you now are spending 3K+ more dollars a year that you don't have on something you don't want how could that not make you pissed to all hell?
Edited for phone keyboard, I'm sure I missed plenty. Sorry about that
ffxivthrowaway03 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:48:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We're not talking about a la carte coverages though, we're talking specifically about people being pissed that the government made it illegal for insurance companies to sell insurance products specifically designed to take advantage of poor people and those who don't understand what they're buying. These insurance products never should have been sold in the first place. Yes they were cheap, but they were also junk.
Roll back to before Obamacare and imagine having one of these plans, thinking you're covered, but then you end up with something like cancer or you need surgery or something and the insurance company says the treatment you need isn't covered. Except now it's too late. You can't just change insurance to be covered because now that you've been diagnosed it becomes a "pre-existing condition" and you're uninsurable or your premium is going to be ludicrous. Whereas if you had adequate coverage in the first place, you'd be covered and get your treatment.
These products were sold specifically banking on people's ignorance. It was predatory. These laws did away with cheap but bad insurance products. Yes, you need to buy something more expensive, but you're also no longer underinsured and aren't going to end up in the situation I described where it's too late and you're fucked. It's not a rarity, it happens every day.
Jamoobafoo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:48:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sigh. There did exist good plans for responsible that provided coverage that are now more expensive. I never said shitty plans. I'm talking about good ones that were more affordable than they are now.
I simply don't get how you canthink people wouldn't be rightly upset by that.
You can think everyone that was paying less before didn't have adequate coverage before the ACA, you are wrong, but that's okay.
Some people fall into a group that had good coverage, spent a long time picking that coverage, it worked well, and now are paying way over what they were before. How could they not be upset?
Adamname ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People keep saying they get coverage they don't want, but never give specifics. What you are really saying is you don't feel you should pay for proper coverage and when the shit does hit the fan you expect the government to foot the bill. It's the same arguement people gave with mandatory car insurance.
This country pays the most in healthcare costs(even before the Affordable Care Act), yet doesnt provide the same coverage as at least 60 other countries. If you still think you are paying too much, it's because the ACA was the republican idea for healthcare instead of universal healthcare plan originally on the table. It's a bad plan because that's what happens when politics gets involved in people's wellbeing and implemented in a halfassed manner since the new republican plan is to sabotage anything that's doesn't go their way( such as all the government shutdowns due to zero-compromise).
Jamoobafoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't care whose fault it is that literally had nothing to do with my post.
I'll say it one more time. It's not silly to be upset that you're paying more money for something you don't want. Flat out. It's not, even further it's logical
I don't know why you've got this opinion that every single person wants to cheap out and then get the government to save their ass by your fairy tale idea of what everyone does because that's convenient for your argument is only that. Convenient for what you want to think. I don't care if it was republican democrats libertarians what the living fuck ever. I'm not even commenting on whether I think ACA is wonderful or dreadful, whether universal healthcare is wonderful or dreadful.
Simply and only that if you think it's silly to be upset to have to pay way more money for something than what you already were satisfied with, then you are in fact who I think is being silly.
quietIntensity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The issue is that he can't keep the same relatively crappy plan that he might have had previously for a cheaper price, because it doesn't meet the standards set in the Affordable Care Act. They are also making the insurance companies actually cover people, so it will cost more to cover the things they used to weasel out of on pre-existing condition clauses.
batdog666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he might have meant plans he can get through work.
theGoddamnAlgorath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, I thought cost was a factor. Isn't that why Obamacare subsidizes to carryout that promise?
CheesypoofExtreme ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:27:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's saying that you used to be able to buy Healthcare that was more personalized. Now plans typically cover a number of things as opposed to as little as you wanted before.
I'm not saying Obamacare is be all end all of Healthcare in the US, but did people really think that it was going to be cheaper to insure everyone in this country? I hate that Healthcare is a business here, but even if it was government controlled Wed be paying high taxes. I for one, am incredibly happy that people who didn't have access before, now can get the care they need. I'm willing to pay a bit more if it means everyone gets covered.
ffxivthrowaway03 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:38:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is a good thing in a lot of ways. Joe Everybody is notoriously horrible at picking out proper insurance coverage because it's extremely (and intentionally) difficult to understand insurance coverage, especially health insurance. People only care about what their premium costs, they don't care about the specifics of coverage until they actually need it and find out they don't have it. Getting rid of plans that intentionally leave people underinsured is not necessarily a bad thing.
quietIntensity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:54:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From the rest of the industrialized world, it looks like offering a slightly lower standard of care for everyone, regardless of overall ability to pay, results in an overall healthier population. Those who can afford better care and are willing to spend the money will always receive better healthcare. So, you might wait a long time on the public system for a joint replacement or another non-vital issue, but it won't put you in the poorhouse either when you have a heart attack. A single nationwide risk pool would have cost advantages far exceeding those available to hundreds/thousands of smaller risk pools. Taking the profit out of the system for the insurance coverage will reduce costs enormously. Taking out the billing complexity of dealing with a bunch of predatory, profit-driven insurance companies, will cut the administration costs of healthcare by huge margins. We already pay more for our healthcare and receive less overall than these other countries, I say it's time to try another system. You should never go bankrupt because you have a health issue, especially the minor stuff that is currently crushing people financially.
MouseRat_AD ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:42:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do have insurance from somewhere other than the exchange. The ACA changed what all carriers are allowed to sell, not just exchage providers. Some of those changes were good and necessary. Others were not, in my opinion. But they all added up to cost more, and that's not what we were told would happen.
miparasito ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:25:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think they're referring to the cheap plans that insurers are no longer allowed to call health insurance.
superfunny ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:43:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was very happy with the health insurance I got through my insurance company, with a $2,500 deductible, dental coverage, etc. It's no longer available and a similarly-priced plan through the same insurance company has a $6,500 deductible and no dental coverage.
miparasito ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:49:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Either A) it didn't actually cover crucial things you happened to not try to invoke or B) your employer took the opportunity to fuck you over and blame it on Obama.
superfunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was an individual plan. Covered me fine for the 7 years I had it; included emergency room visits, surgeries, etc.
miparasito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:59 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Individual as in self-employed? I promise you that if your previous plan is no longer available, there was something missing that you were lucky not to need. Plan requirements aren't absurd. It's things like covering 100% on preventive care, coverage for outpatient services, no more lifetime maximums and no more dropping you (or your entire company) if you develop an expensive long-term condition.
Also, all plans now must cover customers regardless of pre-existing conditions, claims history, etc. -- for self employed folks this is HUGE. It may not seem like a big deal when you're healthy, but before the ACA my husband was disqualified from most healthcare plans because of pre-existing conditions. And I don't mean that as in "coverage was prohibitively expensive." It was not available.
I meanwhile couldn't get coverage for anything neurological because I've had migraines. And thanks to one anomalous high blood sugar test, they also specifically struck anything to do with diabetes should that ever arise.
Stuff like that isn't legal anymore. It was a matter of time and luck before that kind of crap affected you.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:59:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All of my premiums went up. Thanks!
Socialize medicine entirely or fuck off.
Koraks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you upset too that now insurance companies can't just ditch you when you're causing them huge costs as a result of chemotherapy?
ZielAubaris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
literally missing the whole point of universal healthcare. it's meant to be freely available to anyone at the point of need (which is what obamacare was intended to be, more or less a clone of our NHS), but the republicans aborted that shit and made it into the farce you see today. And if you don't Need an obamacare plan then why are there millions of people in america who can't afford doctors bills, why is it that every single conversation about american politics, if it doesn't come down to guns or abortion, is about how shit your medical system is and how much everyone but the people making gigantic shitloads of cash out of it want it to change?
ffxivthrowaway03 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:08:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't miss anything. You can't just flip a switch and boom, the US has universal healthcare that works like the NHS overnight, it doesn't work like that as we can clearly see from how even a rough step in that direction has gone over.
Over time, what started as Obamacare will continue to be refined and as people see the direct benefits to this style of healthcare in their actual, everyday lives, the buzzwords melt away, and they warm up to the idea of actually getting care to people who need it. It might take a decade or two to break down the cultural barriers and sort out the bullshit politics, but the first step to change is always the hardest.
ZielAubaris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well you're right but you misinterpret what I said, obviously you can't just flip a switch as you say, but I didnt mean to imply you could. All the news we get over here from what i'd consider reliable sources paints a picture of the obama administration trying to set up an NHS style thing and getting thwarted at every turn by the republicans
batdog666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason people seem to think that getting everyone on insurance will significantly lower prices. It should help, but maybe the doctor's insurance cost, cost of drugs, and hospitals making up their own prices should also be addressed. Maybe if healthcare was affordable WITHOUT insurance things would be better.
Upper_belt_smash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of what you just said isn't correct. The ACA is far from perfect so you don't have to make up things to make your point.
Healthcare has been rising for years and years and was out of control. The prices of everything have been rising why would this be an area where it wouldn't? Aside from that there are many things within the bill that are there to control the rate of increase. The amount of profits are restricted and people can get refunds if too much is made. The state doesn't choose your doctors these are literally private plans from private companies. The Feds just mandated what had to be included in the plans.
And just brushing off those benefits mentioned above is nonsense. Those are real things that effect millions of people.
Spitinthacoola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously single payer would be better, but from my understanding profits are actually limited and must be redistributed to the insured at the end of each year. Where are "profits codified into law"?
Hollowplanet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:45 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The law says they need to spend 85% of the money they take in on healthcare. Extra profits go back to the consumer.
mm242jr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:15 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
GuloGulo101 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:58:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm family of M.Ds they hate obamacare it makes their job harder. They also spend hours on forms that only they can do (by law) which makes it harder to see patients. Its a good idea (obamacare) but in practice isnt very good.
Secksiignurd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:19:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow...just wow. You have my condolences.
jackster_ ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 16:27:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Poor working mother here, got Medicaid for the first time because of expansion. What a disaster!
DalekJast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:59:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Medicaid expansion was optional though.
lemonparty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:12:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if this is controlled cost, I'd hate to see it unbridled
carlson71 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:27:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I lucked out an found a job that give health care, if lay offs are long during the year I can lose it for a month or two and that sucks. I work construction. If laid off causes insurance to shut off they offer me the option to pay out of pocket for insurance at 1,300 a month... how the hell they expect me to pay that laid off I don't know, just be careful those months.
lostintransactions ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:14:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am a conservative and I think Obama has done a great job with what he has had. I do not hate or even mildly dislike the man. I know he has the country's best interests at heart (and so do most of the others)
Awesome. This was the number one issue.
I am on sort of on the fence on this one, but yea, good, I get it, especially in today's climate.
If you mean 'reducing' by forcing people to buy it, and increasing the costs for everyone else, then yea. But don't make it sound as if millions got some free health care or anything, that's intellectually dishonest.
Not even one bit bro...Healthcare costs are not being controlled at all. The only winners are insurance companies. They have to cover pre-existing (boo-hoo) but now everyone has to be insured which is a tremendous windfall.
Obama is a great man and will go down as a great president. But Healthcare has not been "fixed", it is still shit, Obama threw a band-aid on it and we are all paying for it. I am all for that but if I am going to pay for 'your' healthcare I'd rather it be complete and not patchwork and be free for everyone. Single payer. Democrats fumbled the ball on healthcare.
Kaylen92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:35:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People here in Europe still laugh at the healthcare in the states. But you are going the right way, that better than what you had in the past.
DeeJayGeezus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:57:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All Obamacare (Romneycare) did was further entrench private insurance and make it less likely that a government funded public option would ever get passed. Congress thinks they have done enough
Kaylen92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why can't you have a system like we do have her in belgium, germany, france, UK, Sweden,Finland...
DeeJayGeezus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because that would take away money from the rich who make money on healthcare who own Congress. The good parts of the ACA were bones they threw the middle class so they would complain less about legislation that guarantees insurance company profits.
The_Sven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those are all amazing goals to have. Each one is important for improving health care.
It's the way in which the Affordable Care Act when about it that causes problems.
Example: one of the provisions is that Medicaid and Medicare reimbursement to the hospital is tied to patient satisfaction. Anyone who has ever worked retail should be able to see why this is a bad idea. People looking for narcotics and prescription drugs will fill out a survey at the drop of a hat saying how poorly they were treated because they weren't given more painkillers. Stuff like this drives costs up.
I commend President Obama for trying. I really do. Our system sucks and heaven knows the Republicans weren't going to do anything. But that said, the ACA has a lot of really big problems.
tyzad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course
Sconathon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put your gun down, he's one of ours'.
jmarlo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is just "What should have happened." Reduce medical cost, lol k. My insurance went up and I get less coverage. I'm also an RN at a hospital that has seen big losses and staffing cuts solely due to Obamacare.
It was good in theory, but not practical.
qroshan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:34 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, the cuts happened because hospitals are required to actually cure the patients, rather than milking a patient.
jmarlo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:52 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, because that's exactly what happens. Why would a hospital want to keep a patient longer than necessary when they already don't get paid jack, if anything, for it in the first place. I definitely wouldn't know anything.
ChildGodofTerminus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
They didn't control costs at all. If you believe that then you are uninformed or putting team based politics ahead of truth.
Downvoting me from +20 or so to negative numbers won't change the fact that we have the most expensive healthcare in the first world by at least 200% per capita and more than that as compared to most developed countries.
boredwithlife0b ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't actually pay for health insurance do you?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let me guess, you're one of the fucking poor fuckers who now get free insurance, while my monthly payments have increased fucking drastically.
I can't believe people like you still got your noses up his ass. He's fucked over the middle class so completely it's sickening. Record high wall street profits, stagnant wages, forced to buy health insurance we can't afford, another 8 years of "war" in the middle east, record high student debt, federal welfare rates at 5.3% of population getting at least half their income from the state, NSA spying up the ass. The list goes on.
And yet, you still refuse to point your finger and say "Shitty president".
DeeJayGeezus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything you listed except the war in the middle east (started by Bush, not Obama) is controlled and regulated by Congress. But I bet you love what they have done with the country, don't you?
dumbeinsteinASU0101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let me know how that's been working out.
shitterplug ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:25:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is a disaster. The only good thing that came out of it was the pre-existing conditions thing. Insurance has sky rocketed, plans and deductibles now suck worse than they did before, treatment cost has risen, and hospitals can still charge whatever the fuck they feel like. Hospitals are just as bad as private prisons. It's worse, but people just don't realize it. If anything, this gives private hospitals even more leverage over insurance providers. Basically, it's "You're now forced to buy insurance, but to make up for the still incredibly fucked up and unchanged healthcare system, we're throwing in the pre-existing conditions thing. Enjoy". It's a nightmare, and still costs you a fucking fortune. Before, if you had a crappy plan and got cancer or something that wasn't entirely covered, you could wind up hundreds of thousand in debt. Nothing has changed about that. Medical bills are still pushing people to bankruptcy. The only difference is that you're required to buy shitty insurance.
SteveDave123 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:55:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Koraks ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:56:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol can't tell if serious or joking
KnifeStabCry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:35:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Til about The Deep State https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state
Nick357 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:26:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To even get there a person has to be bought and sold ten times over or so I have heard. I honestly don't know what to think. Do we appreciate him for being an altruistic sycophant?
Secksiignurd ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:32:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good one, dude!
Honestly, I don't know. All I'm saying is that we need a fucking human being to be the president for a while -- not a puppet of banksters and lobbyists. I've had enough of our bought-and-sold government. Our government is supposed to work for us, THE PEOPLE, not corporations, not foreigners, not hucksters.
"By the people, for the people?" Pssh, yeah right. More like, "By the people, for the corporations." That is more accurate.
callmebunko ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:09:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you meant "Buy the people, for the corporations."?
Secksiignurd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:15:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see what you did thar!
DigDugged ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:31:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your slip is showing.
TastyBrainMeats ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:53:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie seems unbought...just saying.
imtheseventh ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:01:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a big Bernie fan and plan on voting for him if and when I can, but there is no way congress lets him accomplish anything at all. We would have a presidency in which so little was accomplished that Obama's presidency would look like a bipartisan success story in comparison.
Secksiignurd ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:00:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, but the Deep State is trying its hardest to ensure he is not the democratic nominee for president. If all else fails: lies, mistruths, over-funding his opponents: Fraudulent primary votes will be used to ensure he gets derailed: MMW.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:11:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but so far, they've been slowly losing their lead, now Bernie is almost caught up to Hilary. That's pretty damn impressive, give him your vote in the primaries, if he gets selected he will almost certainly win the presidency. From there we will have to see what happens. When was the last time we had a decent person as president?
Secksiignurd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:17:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actual popularity polls don't mean shit. The official count does. If the official count comes from loaded vote boxes and rigged electronic voting machines, then who really wins? The guy the deep state wants.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:28:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Popularity polls do mean something, not a lot, but it's a decent sign of how popular a candidate is and how much of a chance they have.
Then again, I'm not paranoid and think vote rigging is a widespread issue or that the deep state even exists in any way that really matters.
SteveDave123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seems is the keyword. He's not. None of them are unbought.
Gadfly21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where is his backing? A large portion of Hillary's comes from corps and super pacs. Bernie's comes from small personal donations exclusively.
lemonparty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama '08 all over again. They said the same shite.
PrinceKael ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:00:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
But it is sorta "by the people for the people." I mean, people obviously don't give a shit because they keep voting in shitty people.
Vote for a candidate that you actually agree with. If that candidate doesn't exist, you run. Then people vote and most likely they know jack shit about politics but they'll vote for the big Republican candidate or the big Democrat candidate (in the US) whereas here in Australia they'll vote for the big Labor candidate or the big Liberal candidate...major party is probably a better term than big...
anyway, this is the flaw of democracy. We DO have control, we (as a collective) just have shitty ideas on what's best for our country and complain about politicians yet WE VOTE THEM IN AGAIN AND AGAIN.
Okay, fine, MAYBE not you. But your dad who complains about politicians...he probably voted for the opposing major candidate aka Turd #2. Mum? Voted the PM/pres. Or something like that...and the cycle continues.."BECAUSE WE'RE A [INSERT MAJOR PARTY HERE] FAMILY!"
"This time I might vote differently...* votes for the other major party *"
Run yourself or go minor party or less popular candidate. One that you know sticks to it's values. Whether it's the libertarian party or lib dems (in Aus) if you're big on freedom in both social and economic areas. Vote for Pirate Party if same as above but not as capitalistic and has more on tech and things like negative income tax. There are heaps more worthy minor parties depending on where you live.
EDIT: can the downvote at least explain why, ofc my layout is shit but tell me how I'm not at least partially correct.
Seakawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People are voting in exactly who they agree with. Not enough people disagree with those in office to vote them out and vote sane politicians in.
PrinceKael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, that's a part of what I meant. People agree with them on a few issues, but then complain about politicians all the time. Yet they keep voting for the same party and sometimes the same person.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:52:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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realsomalipirate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:45:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn an actual Clinton supporter on Reddit, it's like seeing a unicorn.
Goturbackbro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama never had the votes for the progressive policy he wanted. It would've failed as it couldn't have passed a filibuster in the Senate. Lieberman refused to budge and drew a line in the sand that he absolutely would not support single payer. This gave the Dems 59 votes in the Senate. They tried offering him concessions, but he wouldn't budge. They were forced, by this, to try and broker a plan that could pass. Lieberman would vote for the ACA plan, so that's what they voted in. Against a pure stonewall by the Republicans, too. It was a straight party vote. Obama got his 60th vote for ACA by Lieberman, and they had to rush it because Ted Kennedy died and a Republican was elected in his place.
Tldr: it wasn't a political blunder, it was the reality of politics in dealing with the Legislature.
__Gumbercules__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair though, she's about the biggest cunt of cunts that ever were.
Secksiignurd ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:01:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I was trying to say.
lemonparty ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:14:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The right's own policy - so that's why they sent a repeal to Obama's desk last week! Shucks! Why did he veto it then -- his big chance to get rid of the right's policy!
Ah, the old canard that the "ACA was basically written by the Heritage Foundation" right? Been debunked so many times I'm surprised I still see it. The right loved it so much it passed in the middle of the night on Christmas eve without a single Republican vote.
But yeah, keep telling yourself 'if Hillary would have been President she coulda got thangs done!'
carlson71 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:29:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With any lucky they still will be saying that in 2023.
Goturbackbro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, you're clueless. So, who initially wrote the ACA? Answer, Mitt Romney. Who first proposed it to Congress? Newt Gingrich and Mitch McConnell. Why did they propose it to Congress in 1994? As the Republican alternative plan to Hillary care at the time. History fool. It withstands revisionist crap idiots try to pull off in today's hyper retarded right wing lunacy
acousticphan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:19:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get out of here with your logic.
Secksiignurd ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:23:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*hangs head in shame*
*departs*
*closes door*
*dies a little bit inside*
AdamBombTV ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:49:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, he's dying. Don't worry buddy, we got Obamacare looking out for you now.
SteveDave123 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:55:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dying intensifies
Secksiignurd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:21:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
** Le Ded **
brett84c ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:07:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Ugh, Obamacare sucks for someone that is physically healthy but mentally ill. The only plans that help me with my mental issues require me to get the highest cost plans. Would be reasonable to separate the 2. As it stands, I refuse to pay into and support such a fucked up system. Meanwhile, my friends in school or working in restaurants or are under the poverty line are getting amazing coverage for dirt cheap when I am struggling to keep my job and the cost of help is too much for me to afford and have any quality of life on the side.
I do not label myself as either Republican or Democrat but I have always disagreed that you automatically tax and charge people more just bc they make more money. It's hitting me now that I'm in my career and in the middle class how messed up a lot of things are.
And honestly, we're all sheep if we buy into these stupid political articles that get passed around on Facebook. The media is so liberal that it's like they've made it a trend that you're not cool if you don't side with people that AREN'T democrat. Yeah, Trump might be terrible but we need someone in office to stop spending so much damn money and running up our debt. Something is gonna break soon.
erdschein10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely not, congress restricted him on insane projects, that's the whole purpose of the congress, to keep the balance of power of the different branches.
This is not supposed to be a monarchy where the president gets to do what he wants.
jussnf ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 15:30:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The whole purpose of congress is also to represent the interests of its constituents, not their money. Questionable at best.
Secksiignurd ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:35:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are completely true, however, Congress has to propose something viable, instead of "Everything opposite the president -- No matter what." What did they propose that would level-out the solutions suggested? Where was the centrist consensus, for the people? IDK. I never say Congress wanting to work with the president.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:40:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Obamacare was the center- to center-right consensus. Are we still pretending congressional Republicans aren't a arm of high-finance?
Secksiignurd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course they are! So are the Democrats! -- almost as much as the republicans.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:27:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's propaganda. Just look at the Dodd-frank vote counts: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/111-2009/h968
lemonparty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We can sit here and look at the deficits, the spending, Obama getting his way on every single budget....and still say he faced an obstructionist congress? Double the national debt...I'd shudder to to think what it would be with a friendly one.
erdschein10 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 15:36:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that's not what they did. But some things, like the completely stupid gun control laws had to be blocked.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, because it's either "congress is fulfilling their purpose" or "monarchy".
So what was congress doing during the govt shutdown? Oh yeah, causing it.
win7-myidea ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This why a Bernie Sanders presidency is ludicrous. Nothing he wants will get remotely close to passing through congress. And people think that partisanship is bad now...
Seakawn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:15:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Not if you listen to Bernie express how this is a problem and how he gives a solution to it... this really gets old to have to repeat when people can look this up for themselves.
But, Bernie agrees with your concern. He talks about this. He even specifically ridicules Obama for not doing what Bernie knows he would have to do. He says one of Obama's big mistakes was making a bunch of promises to get the people excited enough to vote for him, then once elected, he was like, "Thanks for getting me here everybody. Now, let me handle things from here," and turned his back.
Bernie says if it is possible that enough people get him into office, then he will need all those people's help after he is President in order to both pressure and stack Congress to get what he wants. Otherwise, as we all know--including Bernie who acknowledges this--he won't be able to pass the policies he wants the most.
That's the solution. To continue using the people who got him into office and orchestrate them to manipulate Congress using all the power they have. Obama didn't do this, and Obama wasn't able to achieve all of what he wanted. Sanders is politically aware enough to know this is an issue, which is why he has already been planned with a solution since basically day one (which was quite a while ago by now).
If you have any reasons to think this plan isn't plausible, I'd love to hear why. Remember that the Occupy Movement had a whole lot of potential power, they just lacked both a clear message and leadership, and thus achieved nothing. Sanders supporters outnumber the Occupy Movement and he is basically trying to act as the leader they didn't have and use all those people to actually achieve something with clear direction. Sanders being elected President won't end his working with the people, it will just begin it. Hence the whole, you know, "political revolution" thing he mentions--he doesn't throw that concept around recklessly.
win7-myidea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
That's hyper idealistic, and I really just don't see that happening. The current political climate just makes this such a tough sell.
You need to have an overwhelming number of people (democrats and independents) on board in order to succeed in the way that he is proposing. The way most states districts are drawn effectively prevents Democrats from taking control. Remember that about half the country is going to disagree with Sanders' policies. There is a loud contingent within the GOP that shows up to vote that is vehemently against anything that Obama has accomplished. Right now the right-wing media is railing against the presumed candidate Hillary Clinton, as well as Obama. Talk radio, Fox News, and the like will have a field day with Bernie Sanders as a general election candidate and will galvanize the Tea Partiers and GOP base.
Even if a few in split districts ride the coattails of Sanders in 2016, they are going to be on the hot seat for midterms in 2018 and are going to avoid voting for controversial legislation. Obamacare got gutted even when Democrats were comfortably in control of the House and Senate from 2009-11. I don't foresee a majority as strong as 2009 occurring in 2017. (really a majority in House again before 2020 redistricting takes effect would be a sight to behold) The legislation that he'd like to pass would be more liberal than the ACA and would struggle to get moderate Democrats on board. His political revolution is not going to happen quickly, and this vision is unlikely to be accomplished within one term especially without record control in the House and Senate. Further, the electorate is growing ever more frustrated with the inaction in Washington. Another wasted four years of gridlock in DC is certainly going to change public opinion and I think would lead to a Republican president in 2020.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:38:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Insane projects like center-right health reform that is despertly needed and was originally proposed by conservative think-tanks?
erdschein10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The reform was bad, yes. A health reform is needed, but not this one.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then where's the alternative plan? "Repeal and replace" is stupid. You can just "replace," but yet that never seems to be a priority.
cyberspyder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's my view too. But he's not blameless. Instead of pushing things everyone wanted (like nuclear power) he completely gave up on those issues (see high speed rail) and focused on welfare reform instead.
It didn't stick.
pfohl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC the profits in ACA were reduced from what insurance companies were operating at before.
MrOverkill5150 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This needs more up votes it shows that what was intended by obama was not quite what was created he wanted socialized medical insurance and instead got this imagine if we could have just had single payer health care done prices would plumitt instead we have shitty insurance that we have to pay a lot more for even though granted some of the plans are fairly cheap I think I am paying $100 a month for a plan and it just went up like 40 bucks that has a fairly high deductible at 3k I think. SO me personally I would love to just have single payer health care that I pay for in my taxes so I do not have to spend this money to an insurance company that if something serious happens I am still up shit creek without a paddle.
kyleg5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uhh except Obamacare isn't a disaster. Really the only part that is failing right now are that conservative states won't expand Medicaid coverage.
Canrex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
B-but my guns!
DifficultApple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neither you or anyone in this thread know the first thing about ACA and it's subsidies and you're making it blindingly obvious.
You have hundreds of plans to choose from now, every legitimate option that existed before is there now with the added bonus of income based subsidies.
Some Republican homers have artificially increased costs of certain medical related things to sabotage it. Obama knew that would happen and unfortunately couldn't stop all of it but he made a massive first step considering all the pieces of shit holding his legs and screaming the whole way.
TitanofBravos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean I'm sure he had some but the point people often overlook when complaining about Republican obstructionism and blaming opposition to the man and his policies largely on racism is that Senator Obama had one of the most liberal voting records during his time in the Senate. Its not like Obama was some centerist who got along fine and dandy with everyone until he got into office.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Slow down bro, we're just looking at a picture
fenwaygnome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:33 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ACA isn't a disaster.
Wellshiteinabucket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree. He was as corrupt as the rest. He never struck me as a principled president.
Secksiignurd ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have an upvote.
We haven't had a principled president since....??? .... since.....????
TractorOfTheDoom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:(
Z0idberg_MD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heavy, heavy burden.
platypus-observer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks flummoxed
Bennyboy1337 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair the second photo is pretty cherry picked; the human face is only attractive like 5% of the time you are talking, as a photographer at spoken events, you learn this really quick. Sure he's aged quite a bit, but OP could have picked two fairer photos to compare.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thats what you call stress
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tfw you realize you really can't change shit
DenaunMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He has SO not aged well.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He has seen and heard some shit.
_GameSHARK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whether or not you agree with his politics, he's a good guy. I don't think any President with a soul could endure what our country's endured in the last year alone, let alone his two terms, without looking like that.
SteppingOnThePoint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks tired and sad.
Lolworth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sadness in his eyes
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what got me.
edjamesking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:56:51 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks lost
EchManJones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he genuinely set out to do the things he promised but got majorly cock-blocked by congress.
[deleted] ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 15:05:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he looks like he just doesn't care
i guess i'd feel that way too if i intentionally wasted 8 years of my life doing nothing....
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:07:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I too consider being president a waste of time.
That's why instead of improving myself this morning I broke a pr for smallest refractory period inbetween jacking it
Castro02 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:07:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya, people who don't give a shit often go grey and appear to age dramatically from the lack of stress.
PSO2Questions ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:07:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How were the last 8 of yours ?
MonsterIt ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:09:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spent eating his mommies chickie tendies.
PSO2Questions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Time well spent then, if Barry had been a good goy he could have enough GBP to get Obamacare through.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
pretty cool
Wisdom_from_the_Ages ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:09:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
http://pleasecutthecrap.com/obama-accomplishments/
Edit: Every point has a citation. Sure, it's a lame blog, but every point has a citation.
sovietterran ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:21:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah... That site is totally legit....
No conjecture or finger pointing at all...
Wisdom_from_the_Ages ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:08:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dispute the citations if you want to argue with the material.
sovietterran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The recession is all Bush's fault and Obama saved the economy.
False. Source: reality.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:28:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
started reading, read this first, laughed then closed it
I guess american's are dumb enough to believe anything... LOL
Wisdom_from_the_Ages ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:40:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm completely not surprised that you stopped reading stuff you don't agree with and turned around to throw insults and claim to know all about the stuff you didn't read. I'm sure you refused to click on the citations as well. I'm sure you absolutely never allow a foreign idea into your belief system which is no doubt crafted by your super long list of biases.
I wonder if you know this though, honestly; when you become a shit-throwing ape for your cause, you're just hurting your cause.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:47:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no biases, just reality buddy
and what "cause" is that...? the whole point is americans are retarded. Your blind defense of le xd cool president xd only confirms that
Wisdom_from_the_Ages ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:01:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
We all have biases, my poorly informed friend. You are just in denial of yours, which is the only reason you're such an idiot.
Edit: to answer your question about causes, I'll just say that a snarky, anti-American idiot prancing around like a pigeon on a chessboard after getting so absolutely schooled by an American just makes it pretty clear to anyone reading that Americans aren't always retarded, and people who think they are tend to have real problems with reading comprehension and communication in general.
Edit 2:
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the most /r/iamverysmart tripe.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:55:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
all those edits, i feel bad for not reading any of it... but sorry
Wisdom_from_the_Ages ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was explaining to the readers who aren't afraid of 5-12 lines of text, depending on formatting, that you are a funny joke. LOL
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:25:04 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
u SMART!
Wisdom_from_the_Ages ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:22 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Compared to you, oh yes.
eeemasta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mad bro? What have you done for the country past 8 years? Jealousy doesn't suit you.
FlamingThunderbolt ยท 138 points ยท Posted at 14:36:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He needs some fixing. Like electrolytes or something.
TrailRatedRN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:18:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's got what plants need.
nohpex ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:11:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Crave*
BraveLittleCatapult ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What movie is this from?
MightyButtonMasher ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:41:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Idiocracy
Guardfan801 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:41:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Idiocracy. Great fricken' movie!
SgtJudas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:39:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go away, batin'!
ananab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW_3erMg1sI&t=126
FiveVidiots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What're electrolytes!? I dunno but they help PLANTS GROW.
dr_leo_marvin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's what presidents crave!!!
medpreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plants need electrolytes
netoholic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/Idiocracy
๐๏ธ iBleeedorange ยท 3804 points ยท Posted at 14:08:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dealing with Congress will do that to you
CountVilheilm ยท 1646 points ยท Posted at 14:31:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Driving in Syracuse today will do that to you.
[deleted] ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 15:06:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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-patrizio- ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:53:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are dozens of us!
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:29:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cusecusecuse
Xolian ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:30:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My father travels there for work all the time, but I've never been there. Is it nice? Would you recommend a trip?
ButtNutly ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 15:45:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really.
Xolian ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:51:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the honest answer haha
flyboyd95 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:29:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The surrounding country side is beautiful. I'd recommend the Adirondacks though. Also avoid the south side. Not that you have a reason to go there though.
larrylemur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dunk & Bright! And...okay, just Dunk & Bright.
flyboyd95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dunk & Bright under siege
pchc_lx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live there can confim
flyboyd95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RIP
NiferVol ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:30:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Syracuse might not be the most "exciting" place to be but you could spend an enjoyable day here if you are into history or outdoors. We have a few quite unique and beautiful state parks close to the city limits (this area was formed by glaciers so it has some unique geological and geographical areas), a ton of history between the Erie Canal and the underground Railroad, awesome architecture (that unfortunately is falling into disrepair) and we have a decent downtown with a few good restaurants and bars. However, with in a two-hour drive, you can be in the Catskills, the Finger Lakes (Wine Tour!), the Thousand Islands, the Adirondacks... I've traveled throughout the US and I would put Upstate New York's landscape as one of the prettiest places in this country, especially in the Summer...but on a day like today, it is pretty exceptional too.
hoursisthefury ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Theres also the west side in case you want some heroin!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:39 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly come here for a Syracuse basketball game, hit up Empire brewing, and Dinosaur, and then head up to the Adirondacks and go skiing. Our come in the summer and then go enjoy canoeing and camping in the Adirondacks and skip the basketball if that doesn't interest you. Syracuse is great.
nachoqueen ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:48:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, really. Just better if you don't visit today. As Jim Boeheim once said, "The weather in Syracuse is perfect for 9 months, the other 3 months is basketball season."
Wait until they get the roads cleared anyway. We got our best teams on it. They plowed my street about 12:45 a.m.
jab296 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:40:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where are these 9 months of perfect weather you speak of??
nachoqueen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're coming. April is a great start to Spring (or end of Winter, who knows this year?). May through October are also great. Okay, maybe November, December, January, February, and March are tough. But we are not alone in that struggle. And we get the glory every time we win the Golden Snowball award!! My daughter just moved up Tug Hill way, and folks up there probably snicker when we cry about our snow accumulations.
jab296 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except for the years it snows the first week in May. I'd say there's legitimately 5 months of really nice weather. We both agree that upstate summers are beautiful
nachoqueen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally. I remember the Mothers' Day when we got 2" and the April where schools were closed a couple days. And the October when I awoke to a few inches on my birthday, NOT Funny! But yes, summer in Central New York is wonderful...the joke says, "and on that day we all go to Green Lakes."
Xolian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahah I see, it's pretty much the same in Sweden!
nachoqueen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes...my family three generations back came from Sweden. One of my favorite sayings is "There is no such thing as bad weather, just wrong dressing." ...old Viking proverb.
Surviving the cold is important to me because I work outside every day, +20o or 20o below (F). Gonna be harder today, but I can't call in ...I take care of animals and they don't appreciate my absence.
Xolian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know exactly what you mean! My family has a horse, I don't really take care of it but my mother and sister does. They keep going there even in stupidly cold weather.
And that proverb is actually still used everyday in Sweden, especially younger children who don't want to go out. I can imagine it would fit with your weather as well!
sps26 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, your father travels to Syracuse from Sweden for work? Random connection haha.
But its not that bad. It's not really tourist-ish like a major city, but its a neat area to live in. Tons of trails and lakes/beaches around, NYC just a few hours away...its a good place to grow up I think haha
Xolian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:12:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha yes he does, probably once a month usually. He has some friends from work who visit here, but I haven't really talked to them about the city. It sounds like he has a lot of fun when he's there though so I've wanted to visit, just to see it really.
sps26 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:14:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you ever do visit try to catch a Syracuse basketball game. Maybe not this year because we suck right now...but a game at The Dome is amazing
Xolian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:16:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know absolutely nothing about basketball, do they play in the NBA? Basketball isn't really big in Europe (except for a few countries like Spain) but watching it is usually a lot of fun, I pretty much only watch big tournaments though, like the Olympics.
sps26 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:45:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, gotcha. But nah, it's college. But Syracuse loves the college team like...Liverpool loves their football team over in England
Xolian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:52:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah that explains it perfectly, I should really go and watch them if I go there then!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's constantly cloudy even in the summer in WNY. Seriously, even the PNW has nicer weather.
nachoqueen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Syracuse is fortunate to be in a sunnier central part of the state. We do enjoy great weather throughout rest of the year. Even today's weather is good news for our winter outdoor enthusiasts (and the plow guys).
whoxp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The problem with Syracuse isn't the weather. It's that the city is a shithole
nachoqueen ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:25:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry but I cannot agree with that assessment. I was born and raised here, left for ten years and now have lived here full time since 1978. Syracuse does have its tough issues, very tough issues ...but it is rebounding. Folks are working to bring it back to health. I am one of those people. Yes, there are bad areas...I lived on a very bad block for 25 years, and have the scars to prove it. I am in a nicer neighborhood now (Yes...Syracuse has many nice areas). Some residents care about our quality of life here, and do what it takes to improve it. I'd be glad to take you on a tour of my city to show you the proof.
audiaudioxenfree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
only to the finger lakes and only in summer
spaceface5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha no.
RamboNation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Destiny USA (6th largest mall in America) is pretty cool. They just added a ton of bars and cool stuff to do (like go-karts). And since it's indoors, it can be enjoyed even when it is not so nice outside.
MisSigsFan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is literally nothing to do there but go to the mall.
Sphell_Chekk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:14:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Not much to see unless you're into sports or underfunded cities.
Xolian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:15:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well I love sports! Might go to see that then.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:38:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Represent!
IJustFartedOnMyGF ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:54:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
every person's exact reaction thats from syracuse.now excuse em while i go shovel my sidewalk...
mightygags ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice space after the period, you pleb.
MisSigsFan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to Syracuse and am wearing my Cuse sweatshirt now. Does that count?
Sphell_Chekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're gucci man. Come back soon!
MisSigsFan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I visited at the end of September. My friend is there for graduate school.
jab296 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lets complain about inane Syracuse stuff. Like whats up with all the trucks hitting the overpass on Onondaga Lake Parkway?? There are flashing signs!
Bballred25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hello friends ๐
Brickspace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow! I TOO live in Syracuse! There must be DOZENS of us!
Sphell_Chekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:10:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Small world! All 17.5 of us should team up and represent the 315 on reddit lmao
Brickspace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/Syracuse?
ocean365 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woooo 607 we in here!
Husky127 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rochesterian here saying hello neighbors!
Sphell_Chekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hiddly-hi, neighborino.
Corusca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:34 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are dozens of us!
๐๏ธ iBleeedorange ยท 997 points ยท Posted at 14:38:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It wasn't too bad this morning. Just my development wasn't plowed wasn't plowed.
Edit: dammit.
Hillside_Strangler ยท 1224 points ยท Posted at 14:46:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna go get the papers get the papers
EternalWrath ยท 425 points ยท Posted at 14:59:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jimmy Two-Times who got that nickname 'cause he said everything twice
NotMyMcChicken ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 15:05:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good shot. What do you want from me? Good shot. Fuckin' rat anyway. His family's all rats. He'll grow up to be a rat.
moldy1 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 15:33:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought you said.. it.. I was alright spider.
breatherevenge ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 15:37:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, you're not alright Spider
SpigotBlister ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 16:08:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stuttering little prick.
BombaFett ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All right, so he got shot in the foot, what is it, a big fuckin' deal?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:53:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How could you miss at this distance?
Hillside_Strangler ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:32:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stupid bastard I can't fuckin' believe you. You're gonna dig the fuckin' thing up. You're gonna dig the hole. You're gonna do it. I got no fuckin' lime. You're gonna do it.
himynameispaul ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:08:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll dig the hole. What is this, the first hole I ever dug?
blinkfan305 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
C'mon whattaya doin?? Get outta here, I got a better shot at letting him fuckin' drive. What are you waiting for? Car's cold...GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE WHAT FUCKIN WARM IT UP!? GET OUTTA HERE!
scottylike ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 15:11:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Karen! I'm still gonna go out!
Nat withat ya cah keys ya nat!
idontwanttostart ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:50:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man. Lorraine Braco is so fucking HOT
Fahsan3KBattery ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 15:07:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pete the Killer: "By the way I took care of that thing for you"
swearwolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That thiiiiiiing
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to be confused with "Psycho Pete"
BrightShadowHunt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jacob Two-Two?
feeb75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Two pounds of firm red tomatoes
MonkeyNunchuckFight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:41:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or Anthony "One-Time" Branca
PapaLeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything twice.
Forestisinthetrees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was Tommy Two Times? Or am I thinking of Tommy Tu-Tone.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean my professor.
idontwanttostart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You muddafukah you!
TinyCaveman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're as bad as the irish woman who took two pills to be sure to be sure
StarWarsMonopoly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get the Papers, Get the Papers
cockonmydick ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:27:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for quoting the clip that person posted from the movie everyone's seen. What a pointless fucking comment
Ldreamer ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 15:02:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"You're a real jerk, you wasted 8 fuckin aprons on this guy."
WicksCherrycoke ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:11:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"We gotta toughen this kid up."
Morning_Star_Ritual ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:29:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya fucking stuttering prick.
Acidmoband ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:42:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey Henry, here's an arm! Here's a wing!
seeingeyegod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol i was just thinking of that line!
RapperOnDrugs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:35:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's this movie?
toshi9590 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:47:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Goodfellas
bluthscottgeorge ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:39:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Baddudes
BombaFett ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"One more letter from that school to this kid's house and in the fukkin oven yer gonna go head-first!"
FiveGuysAlive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HAHAHAHAH YES! Even before I scrolled down all I could think about was THIS! HAHAHAHA
SlipNSchlong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its like someone kept hitting the Swiftkey prediction
britchesss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sick reference bro
Randomd0g ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MY NAME IS PETE REPEAT
ThinkInAbstract ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's some good shit right there right there.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...fuck that's just perfection right there...have a upvote.
dettawalker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Skip potatoes, get the papers
thatcdnguy22 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:46:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
they ain't gonna plow no more, no more!
soawesomejohn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:59:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ain't gonna salt, ain't gonna shovel!
they ain't gonna plow now more!
HargrimmPi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:13:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hit the road Jack?
iPlowedYourMom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:29:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FALSE!
BillNyeDeGrasseTyson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:21:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bought a Jeep this year and put a remote start on it. The hardest part of winter is just other drivers now.
sps26 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right on. Jeep Liberty with 4x4 drive and an automatic starter...its like cruising on a Cali highway
singularity2030 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer AWD. Even my sedan makes snow a breeze with AWD, but I don't typically need a lot of clearance here, just good traction.
ilovemud ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:58:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aha, I suppose it was pretty evident, but I was never sure you were from CNY. It is bad if you live north of town, not if you live south.
๐๏ธ iBleeedorange ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:10:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have to go far north today, it's gonna suck.
ilovemud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck, the band is going to swing north later today.
killhimalready ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:06:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This town is a part of us all...a part of us all...a part of us all...
cscottaxp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IDK, man. I'm looking at a foot of snow out my back window right now and I heard 81 was a mess...
BrendenOTK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:19:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always had a hunch you were from Syracuse given the user name, but I never saw anything confirming it until now. Neat!
heyamipeeing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it supposed to get worse? I'm planning on driving up either later tonight or tomorrow based on the weather
HeWhoSitsWhenHePees ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:56:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's supposed to be like this until this evening. I heard a total of about 18" where I'm at
Giantg52 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:57:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's still snowing pretty well right now, but it's supposed to taper during the day I think.
YourBrotherRonnie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:02:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Should be fine
rob481516 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plows just came by around 9:30 in my hood
RolandTargaryen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They got mine at like 4am and hasn't gone by again since. So there's almost a foot on the roadw. Not sure about the main roads yet, don't work until 4.
๐๏ธ iBleeedorange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea I was long gone by then
bracesthrowaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like nothing at all. Nothing at all. Nothing at all.
birdnerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You said wasn't plowed twice.
iPlowedYourMom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what about your mom?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even see the second 'the'.
Mike_Milburys_Shoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First winter our here for grad school. It's pretty bad, guys.
BloodyFreeze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rochester feels your pain
AKittyCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was pretty bad trying to get to Fayetteville. East Genesee is bad regardless of weather or traffic
Its_eeasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Start wearing purple, wearing purple
Jesus-Loves-You ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Back back to Cali Cali...
Cuse13090 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta love good old Syracuse....
๐๏ธ iBleeedorange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could be worse, could be Oswego
majavic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's Jacob Two Two!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha. Here in Liverpool I'm like in my driveway.
keith_HUGECOCK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go Hoyas
OwenWilsonsNose1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Show me the blueprints. Show me the blueprints.
grebilrancher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't have snow tires yet and I'll be driving back to Onondaga in February! Risky move l:
whoxp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You would think the plows would have been ready for this shit
space_turnip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Goin goin back back to cali cali
TheObviousChild ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you just stroked out again.
simplyxstatic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was pretty bad getting to Tipp Hill from Eastwood. Apparently snow makes it ok to go through red lights. Almost got t boned at an intersection. Thank god for AWD!
McBurger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yesterday drive home from work was insane though. Total white out
InnocentGun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm thankful for growing up in Syracuse. I deal with snow better than the average Canadian (Syracuse would be the third snowiest city in Canada). As a half-Canadian (by birth) I am sometimes ashamed at how wimpy people here can be.
Don't let the Canadians hear me, they like to think winter is theirs and theirs alone.
SoftHole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ah i can see it all the cars parked and everything when they told you not to park there the day before! so now they cant plow the snow because idiots like you probably left your car on the snow route and then blame the city HIGH FIVE!
tbonemcmotherfuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jimmy Two Times?
Folcra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, next to Utica here. Just spent 2 hours clearing the driveway and decks. We got 8 inches in the last few hours!
DJRoombaLives ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Necessary means for a necessary means for a
xclxcl ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:47:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just your development wasn't plowed wasn't plowed.
swaginite ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 15:15:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've lived Syracuse Winters all my life. I'm in Manhattan this winter and not a single flake of snow has fallen yet.
Coming home this weekend.
Going to be
MARVELOUS. and deadly.
CyanideSeashell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:35:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll be driving up to Syracuse on Sunday... how do you think it'll be up there by then? Just checking... cause i don't really want to die, either.
RolandTargaryen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:20:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Last I heard its supposed to be in the 40s this weekend. So muddy slushy brown and black shit that makes everything look awful and more depressing than usual.
CyanideSeashell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:31:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Luckily, i'll only be up there overnight so I can handle depressing for 12 hours or so before killing myself. I just hope I don't get washed off the road in the slush rivers.
sps26 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:00:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, did not expect to see Syracuse mentioned here. Where I was it was a complete whiteout and the roads weren't plowed...just driving 20 mph trying to follow other cars' tracks and unable to see 15 feet ahead of me
notsobigboss ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:08:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it's pretty terrible out today, not even gonna attempt driving.
Also hello fellow Syracuse person.
flyboyd95 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:28:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a bike courier in Syracuse. Love/hate this weather. Order a sandwhich from jimmy johns sometime after 4 and I will personally deliver it to you.
guninmouth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:50:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey! I'm from Syracuse, and I resemble that!
Chrysalii ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:13:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Driving today in Baldwinsville.
Well driving through Baldwinsville is bad on good days. At least there weren't many people out.
Negatis ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:45:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, the news stations kept referring to the conditions as "treacherous".
Talk about another instance of the media sensationalizing something. It wasn't treacherous. It was Wednesday in Syracuse in January.
jab296 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:47:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, it's not that bad. This is how people act in the south when there is snow, not Syracuse
mattmojo2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell me about it, the 5 minute drive into work took 15
orangelacrosse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:17:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People were absolutely losing their minds today on 81S.
Socrahauer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:21:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Took me an hour to get home last night on my usual 10min commute! All hail Syracuse!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:29:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a syracuse person, my jeep loves it
wuge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:31:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey I did that this morning!
ecp12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:37:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was expecting there to be more to be honest.
zoomski ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm only 45 minutes west of Syracuse and we didn't get jack shit.
steveirwinreanimated ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:40:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ain't that the truth. The highways were plowed but the city roads were shit.
Old_man_Trafford ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:13:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sooo glad I don't live there anymore.
Milafin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:16:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I commute from Jordan to Fulton, holy freakin moly, from 690 in Baldwinsville to the Oswego county line on 48 was horrendous. it was 15 mph and even that was fast, and I have a 4X4 Silverado. As soon as I got past the strip club on 48 the snow stopped.
fwowaway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:38:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife is from Syracuse, she now lives in Dublin and moans about the lack of snow here.
FranceGall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:54:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For once glad I live in watertown and not syracuse
toddhowardshrine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pittsburgh has the worst traffic in the country right now. Come on down.
burke1503 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:35:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I miss Syracuse. Living in Alaska now
jab296 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since when is this a major storm for Syracuse? I woke up today after everyone talking about a megastorm and wasn't bad at all.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:52 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not. It almost never is in comparison to us up north every time.
Mardak5150 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:50:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Utica checking in! Driving sucks but so does everything here.
mstutsm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is my second week in Syracuse and my first commute like this. I feel how Obama looks.
Scuba_Stevo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Driving in Toronto everyday will do that too at to you. And now the
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hiawatha alone will do that.
jakatz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:10:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Driving back up tomorrow, how's it looking?... Eh why do I ask
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just flew into Syracuse from Toronto. Beautiful weather all the way here. Except right on top of Syracuse. It's like God decided to shit directly overhead Syracuse in particular.
What's weird is that this has happened to me 3 times in the last 3 weeks.
penumbruh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It took me an hour to get to work today. Now I have to stay an hour later :(
tysnastyy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How long is your drive?
hoursisthefury ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:10:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My neighborhood in fayetteville is a death trap.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:52:23 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live up on Tug Hill. You're adorable.
shakeandbake13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should try driving in the DMV. Worst traffic in the nation.
JayBarangus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has Alabama's defenses taken to the streets?
JayBarangus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has Alabama's defenses taken to the streets?
ocean365 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeahhhhh Upstate NY!!!!!
ismoketabacco ยท 243 points ยท Posted at 14:33:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even more than that... Imagine every single stress-inducing brief that passes by you on a daily basis as POTUS. Things that range from quite literally world-changing decisions you have to make, to others that are far beyond your control.
Being the prez must be close to some kind of hell.
FiveGuysAlive ยท 182 points ยท Posted at 15:14:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention I am sure he did get briefed on a lot of secret shit that will fuck with someone and their sense of what reality is.
Show-Me-Your-Moves ยท 466 points ยท Posted at 15:28:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"You know Coke and Pepsi? Exact same shit in a different can."
wheelturn108 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:26:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"The aliens at Area 51 clued us in."
roobens ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 17:47:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
"Sir, regardless of what you've read in the papers, there's never been any spacecraft recovered by our government. Take my word for it, there's no Area 51, there's no recovered spaceship."
"Erm, excuse me Mr. President? That's not...entirely accurate.."
TheDudeNeverBowls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:16 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't it be awesome if a sequel even once recaptured the subtle comedy in the original?
FiveGuysAlive ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:46:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you ever play Deus Ex? Specifically the second game?
NotAnAlligator ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:08:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't, why do you ask? Is it worth playing?
nova0052 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:11:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a sub-plot in the game where you can take missions from competing coffee chains to sabotage each other in various ways.
It turns out both chains are part of the same company. If I remember correctly, they even have the same bean supplier.
Thanatos_Rex ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:26:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God damned madness.
NotAnAlligator ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:32:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cool sounding game, thanks!
Jipz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same bean supplier!? Oh. My. God!!
FiveGuysAlive ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:12:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Omg yes! The first game is very old at this point but the series is wonderful! I ask because your statement made me think of the game. Here is the reason why (It's a spoiler but honestly it's not much of anything and doesn't change gameplay or storyline).
Spoiler
NotAnAlligator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:31:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like an awesome game! Thanks!
LPawnought ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's funny (to me) is that they both taste almost exactly the same, thus I personally have no preference.
seeingeyegod ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:10:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
which is why everything tastes like chicken
internetlad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We're through the looking glass here, people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:32:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a joke, they're very different.
tubaraoakasaga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:26 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
Hedgerow_Snuffler ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:12:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I think this captures perfectly what went down with Nixon and Jackie Gleason (or Richard Burton depending on the story)
NipplezoftheFuture ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:30:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, Carter was quite outspoken about a policy of openness toward ufos and such while running, then immediately started backing away from it after he was elected. There's a lot of speculation that he abandoned it as a result of whatever he may have learned in one of these secret briefings that occurred while he was still president-elect.
FiveGuysAlive ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:16:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean? I am intrigued, if you could go on I would appreciate it!
Hedgerow_Snuffler ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:34:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ungh, you'll fall into a googlehole if you go looking for it. (and confusingly there are several versions (and a lot of other crap of it)
OK, Jackie Gleason's place one evening, a car pulls up. Nixon arrives at door, and is ushered in looking shaken. Gleason asks if he's OK does he want a drink?
Nixon sits, gleason fixes him a drink and asks,
"what's wrong Richard?"
Richard looks up and says " today... this afternoon they... they took me...
"They took me...Jack... they showed me the Alien..."
There's an unofficial Richard Burton biog with a similar story in. It's probably hokum (though Nixon was close with Gleason) but for me, it's always captured that feeling must of knowing stuff and being damned if you say anything. A really awful place to be.
NewVegasResident ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man I wonder .... Aliens ? Illuminati ? Corporate lies ?
FiveGuysAlive ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:49:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've often though of that myself. That they sit him down and let him know hes just a puppet one way or another. Or that Aliens secret run the world or even exist. Imagine that, you're on cloud 9 thinking shits tight when they sit you down to tell you that Aliens exist. Aliens are all over the place and Earth is not ruled by them, but still in a growth state, they won't let Humans know until we mature. Kind of like that movie The World's End but without the evil shit haha
NipplezoftheFuture ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a great Star Trek NG episode that is a great perspective on this theory. The enterprise crew make first contact with the president of a humanoid species that is getting close to the discovery of warp drive. At the end of the show, they president actually decides that his people aren't mature enough to deal with extraterrestrial life yet and sends the enterprise on their way. Fantastic episode. S04E15 on Netflix.
FiveGuysAlive ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YES! I love that episode. It also reminds me of Stargate SG1, similar story too. They discover a new gate code and when they activate and go through the gate they discover the other gate is an artifact in a museum. They arrive when the place is closed and having a private function and their arrival ignites a huge struggle. Apparently they were seen as terrorists from another faction in the world until they proved other wise. In the end they decide to bury the ring because they don't think the world, already in chaos so to speak, can't handle such news.
Stargate SG-1: Season 10, Episode 16 BAD GUYS
AdamBombTV ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 15:47:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Okay... So if I have that Turkey sandwich for lunch, will FOX News or CNN have a shit fit? What if I have it on wholewheat? ...maybe a taco will keep them happy?"
[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 16:26:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A taco would upset Fox. Don't support the Mexicans, silly.
carlson71 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:36:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin married a Mexican. They can make awesome tacos. All Mexicans that want to legally come make tacos are alright, shit my cousins wife is completely right wing and hates the fact illegals come over when her and her family spent years coming here legally. She surprised me by saying a better wall needs to be built to keep the ass holes hoping it from coming here.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:27:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not surprising. Some of us (Hispanics) have to wait years to get a visa, by doing everything the right way. I still have many years ahead and I'm not Mexican (they have worse waiting times). :/
I'm not in favor of a wall, though.
carlson71 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:33:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone who does it the legal way has my respect. I'm white, my family all came threw Ellis Island so I know that's not nearly as difficult.
How ever I do support a wall, not some monster wall that kills those who touch it. Or a wall like the ice wall from GOT. But one that is in place and behaves as a wall should, not just an obstacle. Just go threw the legal means to become a citizen, I don't know why most dont, I've worked low end labor jobs with illegals before some spend tons of time worrying about getting sent back and others don't think they every will.
I'm not someone who doesn't believe legal immigrants can't be a big plus to our work forces or a big addition to our families or neighborhoods. Like I've said legal immigrants have nothing but respect for everything they did to become citizens. I don't want you to think I'm arguing with you, I seem to be starting them here today.
professional_giraffe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:21:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry.
through
However
carlson71 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:22:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not. I'm writing on a cell phone while in an uncomfortable spot. Words get spelled wrong. At least you're here to save the day. Idk how to give you a thumbs up picture.
professional_giraffe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for being nice at least. Many become very perturbed at being corrected so it's natural to become defensive about it. My thinking is corrections are better for non-native speakers that might be reading. Have a nice day.
carlson71 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do my best to not come off as an ass. It helps noone, specially when I know I don't pay good enough attention when typing most the time. Hope you have a good day also.
professional_giraffe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I appreciate your cordiality. Also, no one should be two words when used in tandem, but nobody is more correct. Sorry again, I also try not to be ass!
carlson71 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I build instead of write of a living.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, not at all! It's good on my end. Perfectly friendly conversation. :)
My stance with the wall, I hope is not confused with something like "no borders". I think every country has its border and it must be respected. I have my reservations with an armed wall, tho.
I'll tell you why. Because it's insanely expensive, difficult, and it can take a lifetime or half your life. I have a total of 10 years to wait, and my category is one of the quickest for unmarried, childless adults who are children of citizens. If I was from Mexico, I'd be waiting 20-30 years, I think.
If I had been younger than 21, I would have gotten it fairly quick. If I had chosen to marry someone for the green card, it'd take a year, at most.
The legal immigration system is a nightmare if you're not European or from one of the Commonwealth countries.
Work permits for the "unskilled" category are severely limited, and they run out as soon as the fiscal year opens. Furthermore, it takes a year for it to be approved. And not many companies want to invest that much time and money on randoms.
The rest of the work permit categories are for genius people, engineers, and such.
The best way to solve the illegal immigration problem is to fix the legal immigration system.
carlson71 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah if it's taking that long and that much money to become a legal citizen I can see why more do it illegal. It has always seemed like our immigration system is hard and had a bunch of obstacles, just didn't realize really what they all really were. Or how much of a limit there was for work permits.
I suppose it's not easy making a system that pleases everyone, lots of people but should be a way to make it easier for the people like you and others that want to contribute. I guess the job scares that come in swings also make them tighten up who can come and who can't. An then those that want to be dicks are hidden in there, but I'm not sure how big of an issue that truly is.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seems like a Veep episode.
DMala ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:54:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It seems like the best part of being president is afterwards. Once you're done the pressure is totally off, but you still have the clout the comes with being a former president. Look at Jimmy Carter, he achieved 1000 times more since his term ended than he ever did in office.
Pritzker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:13:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PPTSD
Post presidential traumatic stress disorder
stanfan114 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At this point in history the office of the president is mostly a lightning rod for all the hate the US government gets for what it does. Lots of Americans sincerely believe Obama is a Muslim and a terrorist, yet entities like the Koch brothers or Exxon barely register.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't even get paid that well. : \
MonkeysOnMyBottom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've forgotten the completely asinine requests/demands as well. Also someone got hold of his birth certificate and changed the year... there's a reason he didn't release it
thisismywittyhandle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.vox.com/a/barack-obama-interview-vox-conversation/obama-foreign-policy-transcript
It would take a far greater man than I am to deal with that day in, day out while being relentlessly criticized by half of the country.
sirborksalot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone talking about how this job has aged Obama terribly should be required to post headshots of themselves in 2008 and today.
Like y'all are all so timeless.
KashEsq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I look much better today than I did in 2008, when I was heavier and balding. Though I have no doubt that I'll look worse 8 years from now.
sirborksalot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, everyone in /r/progresspics gets a pass
Tramm ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:26:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except you make it out after 8 years and now you're rich.
Xdmrbrightside ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Theirs many jobs like this and none are as hard to get as being the president.
Tramm ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:03:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
But it's no hell is my point. Hell is supposed to be an eternity. Not 8 years of an ass-kicking followed by 40 more years living in bliss, with a presidential burial, and your name in the history books forever.
dafones ยท 312 points ยท Posted at 14:55:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
As a Canadian, I find the role of the President fascinating in light of the fact that he/she can be elected at odds with the constitution of your legislative houses. Often it seems that you're setting him/her up to fail.
Edit to add: for comparison, in Canada, our federal and provincial leaders are selected from the party that obtains the most representatives in our legislative house. This means that, in the least, the leader has the support of the most (but not necessarily the majority of) elected representatives. I believe the UK is much the same way (a Parliamentary system).
dragondm ยท 205 points ยท Posted at 15:27:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Checks and balances. The US government is not designed to be efficient. It's not designed to make it easier for good politicians to do things. It's designed to limit the potential damage caused by bad ones.
It requires the president have good negotiating skills when dealing with a congress that does not agree with him. Many presidents have done pretty well at this (Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, etc).
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Iopia ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:46:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
However, in countries like Canada/UK/Ireland, the majority of the nation is behind both houses of congress (or equivalent), and the President/PM represents that majority. In the US, a Rhode Islander's vote counts more than a Texans (due to the number of representatives assigned to each state), in most other countries they're equal. Maybe it's fair enough to protect smaller states, but to me a majority is a majority, so it makes sense that the Head of State should align with whoever has the majority in Government, which in turn should align with whichever party received the majority of votes. Also, in these countries, the Head of State doesn't have quite as much power, and abuse of power isn't particularly likely when every decision has to go through parliament, which (in Ireland, not in the UK/Canada), is proportionally representative of the percentage of voters who voted for each party.
thebourbonoftruth ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:58:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Our new Canadian government is looking to fix that. You should hear the bitching though. It all breaks down to the electorate being too stupid to do a 5 minute google search. I mean it's hilarious when it's spun as being "for" the current majority party. Really, so a more representative system supports a party that won the most votes? Fucking shocking.
I just want an end to this 40% popular vote, 51%> of the seats bullshit.
vanontom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
American here. This is what probably bothers me most about human beings. We have the technology. We have the intellect (ha?). But too many people are just too fucking lazy ("busy") to spend a few minutes every once in a while on important subjects. Obligatory: "This is why we can't have nice things."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
UKIP were fucked over badly in the UK election. They got 13% of the vote. That translated to one seat. The Lib Dems got 8 seats with 7.9% of the vote.
newfiedave84 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:13:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just how fantastic the design is depends on your perspective. Without campaign finance reform, bought politicians will continue to perpetuate the oligarchical system that currently exists in the US.
WhatIfThatThingISaid ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:32:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you suggest keeping one from being bought? Do you really think one can simply stop the flow of money and not have it replaced by a dozen other ways of giving favors?
vanontom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:56:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make it tougher, and the penalties stiffer, and there will be fewer. Progress.
stationhollow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:54:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It gets replaced with transparency. Make the diaries of the executive public to show who is meeting with whom (through FOI requests) Limit campaign donations and make rose public as well.
newfiedave84 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:56:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I do. Saying it's not possible to fix the broken system is for pessimists, cowards, and oligarchs. I choose to be optimistic, and believe proper auditing and transparency legislation could fix the vast majority of corruption in politics. Maybe it wouldn't 100% fix the system, but it would be a lot less corrupt than it is now.
WhatIfThatThingISaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I support removing all finance restrictions and making disclosures mandatory.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fantastic except for the two party system that has embedded itself...
JesusTouchedMySoul ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:10:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, working really well for you guys. America is where you go to be cared about by your government.
easytrolling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clinton and Reagan were experts at getting everyone on board.
average_user_421 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:36:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clinton a little more so, if you know what I mean. I mean sex with women he wasn't married to.
easytrolling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha well played. He was following longshanks. Breeding them out. Lol
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:10 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao what do you think the state of congress is today? Not that?
teenagesadist ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 15:00:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The government needs a fall guy just like anyone else.
kyle46 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:06:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The US Government is pretty bad for that. For instance the debt ceiling thing that happened a couple years ago. Congress passes the budget which the president is required to spend. Then congress blames the president for spending all the money requiring the debt ceiling to be raised. CPG Grey did a great video on the topic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIbkoop4AYE
carlson71 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:39:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Congress needs term limits.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fiscal plan!
carlson71 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:24:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just want term limits. If I have to deal with my tiny ass town finding a new mayor every few years, Congress should deal with same shit every 4 years. How many of them are 70+ an been there so long they don't even know who the hell voted them in there in the first place.
bracesthrowaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Colt Seavers for President!
koteuop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lee Majors?
PM_ME_YOUR_IMOUTOS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They should have something for rookie government associates like in the NFL....
Obi-wan_Jabroni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cris Carter?
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RhodesianHunter ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:57:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You would probably be singing the opposite tune if trump got elected. It might have its downsides, but it can still be very beneficial even in the modern age.
SmokeSerpent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In a parliamentary style system though, we wouldn't be faced with a situation where "Trump gets elected" and runs roughshod, it's more of a ground-up system where if Trump ends up President or PM we have lots of little Trumps already elected.
isubird33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, his party currently controls the House and Senate...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't mean he would be President because he may not have the support of most Republicans in the House and Senate. A leadership election would be held in a parliamentary system. For example, the Conservative Party (UK) held a leadership election in 2005. Conservative MPs voted for a new leader from a selection of four candidates. Another example is the Labour Party's leadership election last year. Although, it had different rules. A leader was elected by Labour Party members and registered and affiliated supporters.
TL;DR. Trump could only become leader of the Republican Party if most members of the party voted for him.
Sugarysam ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:14:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like it slow. We need time to have our epic decades long political battles to be dead certain that the course we choose is absolutely right.
The ship of state should be like a cruise ship, not a jet ski. If you turn this ship too fast people spill their drinks, and no one wants to clean up the mess.
foxhoundladies ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:16:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
when have we ever made a choice that was absolutely right?
novanleon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:22:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Inefficient how? The USA has the highest GDP in the world (roughly equivalent to the entire European Union with 3/5ths the population), is consistently ranked near the top in science and technological innovation, has the largest and most powerful military in the world, has the most racially and culturally diverse society in the world, and is also one of the most libertarian countries in the world.
Saephon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:23:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many, if not all of those things, can be true while being completely irrelevant to the prosperity of working class citizens. You might as well say, "How is the U.S. in trouble? The stock market's up!"
novanleon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:35:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The problem is, "prosperity" is a vague term and can mean different things to different people.
ravend13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:24:39 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fact that the US didn't have to rebuild all of its infrastructure after 1945 may have something to do with that.
abstract_buffalo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:19:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Inefficient because we can't be like Norway! You have to understand that redditors are usually uninformed college students.
pickledtomatoes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:04:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Source for all those facts?
DanPlainviewIV ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:55:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
High School Level US History
11787 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:20:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More like the usual high school propaganda masquerading as history.
pickledtomatoes ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:14:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For someone who didn't take American History in highschool. It isn't mandatory everywhere, you know.
Sexpistolz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:18:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it designed that way, or just how people analyze it now? From my take the Founders were winging it doing the best job they could, and often they speak of their own shortcomings, personal and political. In fact Washington addresses the partisan division that blossomed between the federalists and anti-feds in his farewell speech, and is a major reason why he left office.
RigidChop ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:11:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was definitely designed that way. The way the midterm elections are structured is a good example of the Founder's attempts to make sure the pendulum doesn't swing too quickly.
Sexpistolz ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:21:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Ummm no, considering there was no term length for a president until the 20th century. Edit: I withdrawal statement, I was thinking of how many terms a president runs for. It's early still >_< Edit 2: But that being said, that still only deals with the house doesn't it? Don't senators serve 6 years? Which staggers between midterm and election. And was this number lifted from Roman precedent, or altered for the US?
alSeen ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:47:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Senators are elected every 6 years, but they don't all go up for re-election at the same time. 1/3rd (about) goes up every 2 years.
Sexpistolz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So then it's still spread evenly between midterm and election cycle then right?
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error_logic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With the notable exception of those little riders they sneak into "must pass" legislation at the last moment.
Sexpistolz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:47:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well the system is designed to make changes. It's funny, many of the things that restrict such a thing are changes that were added. Many forget that the draft of constitution the US uses was not the first. The first failed. The first was the articles of confederation. However it was weak, and we needed something that gave more power to the government, and so a new constitution was drafted. Many people also forget prior to the revolution, the states hated each other. It would be this system, the federal government, that would be the glue that bonded a newly formed union together. Sentiments repeated during the US civil war. People that say our system was designed to be weak and inefficient are mistaken, especially on design, as this was when the US was most vulnerable, and needed to be held together more than ever. You are mistaken, laws can be changed, the constitution itself can be. It was designed this way. Following the articles of confederation the Founders needed a framework that would be fluid and allow them to alter things when they came across, or discovered something didn't work out. It was expected this constitution would last only 30-40 years, until a time a new Constitution would set the stone, however it was seen that this element, the ability to adopt change in government, that gave our constitution the flexibility our nation needed to function.
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Proditus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i.e. The constitution is good because it supports some things that I support, but bad because it supports some things that I don't support. It would be nice if all laws changed to suit my worldview.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:42:41 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Ron_Swanson12 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:02:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is no argument to what it really means. It has been litigated, explained, and decided by the supreme court. You might disagree with the plain text, that doesn't mean there are different interpretations.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:57:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It should be slower. We don't need new laws (the Congressional Budget Office literally cannot determine the number of laws passed last year, much less the total number of laws - they've tried) we need less government interference in our day-to-day lives.
When the Founders set up the country we had 10 laws. Today we have 20,000 laws for guns alone - I'm not trying to make it a gun issue, but it's a great example because 240 years ago there was one gun law stating that the right to have guns by citizens should not ever be infringed, and today there are literally more than 20,000 laws specifically infringing the rights for citizens to have a gun. Do some of those laws make sense; of course they do. But the exponential growth into the leviathan of government that we have today make it impossible for an individual to know all of the laws.
dorekk ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:51:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
240 years ago "a gun" was a much simpler concept than it is today.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:04:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
20,000 times more complex?
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh...arguable.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't see what this has to do with anything.
Kelodragon ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Give me a min while I load this thing so I can shoot you again!
Ron_Swanson12 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 15:09:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaaaand you linked to Vox. Immediately removing any and all confidence the internet has in your opinions.
gucciman3ice ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:15:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know anything about Vox.
Care to summarize about them?
Red_Tannins ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:21:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a Blog site.
rhllor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:43:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, like Forbes?
Ron_Swanson12 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:21:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So.. I'm fully aware of the irony that I'm linking to Deadspin... However this is literally just a list of the corrections they have made. They have been a "news" organization for less than 5 years.
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/46-times-vox-totally-fucked-up-a-story-1673835447
thebetrayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read a good chunk of the "fuck ups" in that article and I'm not seeing anything egregious. Every newspaper makes mistakes; journalists are generally not subject matter experts.
Anecdotally, I have read some interesting articles on Vox that were pretty high quality but I would never confuse an online newspaper/history blog with a scientific journal.
Ron_Swanson12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:45:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hang on man... Did you really read it?
" An earlier version of this post suggested there was a bridge connecting Gaza and the West Bank. Various plans to do this have been floated, but the bridge was never actually built."
This is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read. I remember reading this article when it was posted and I remember thinking I had accidentally clicked into an Onion article. They used this "bridge" to argue that Israel was oppressing Muslims in the region because they had strict control of this "bridge". A 4 second google would have discredited this and they WROTE AN ENTIRE ARTICLE ABOUT IT.
thebetrayer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:18:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you read the article that it was talking about? It's a beginner's guide to the Hamas-Isreal conflict. They didn't write an article about a bridge that was never built, it was a small portion. It was a mistake on the author, but not damning for the paper or even the article.
See here: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/40s19v/obama_at_his_first_state_of_the_union_address_and/cywsqvn
Ron_Swanson12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So if I wrote an article about how the moon affects tides, and its orbit around the Earth, and said emphatically (with a photo and caption) that the moon was made of cream cheese it wouldn't have any bearing on how you viewed the article?
thebetrayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a valid comparison because it's common knowledge that the moon is in fact Gouda. It's not common knowledge whether there is a bridge between Israel and Gaza.
The journalist made a mistake. They issued a correction. It happens. I'm not going to discredit the whole site for that.
Ron_Swanson12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok how about this one that speaks to basic human intelligence?
"The first chart in an earlier version of this post said it listed the number of toilets per capita, not per 100 people. Clearly that was wrong โ 102 toilets for every 1 Boulder resident would be way too many."
thebetrayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That one was my favourite. I found it funny trying to picture Boulder with 102 toilets per person. Still a relatively minor error.
Ron_Swanson12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it really though.. They posted an article, this I assume, means it was approved by editors. They thought there were 100 toilets PER PERSON.
dipsy18 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:44:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8, 12, 16 right off the bat are huge mistakes and totally mislead the reader. You're right, every newspaper does make mistakes, but minor..usually technical mistakes( just like the deadline article states). However, these errors are inexcusable for journalists imho.
thebetrayer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:15:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, how dare they miss that one word, totally misleading: /s
Here's the corrections page from The New York Times, which has printed a correction 6 of the last 7 days: http://www.nytimes.com/pages/corrections/index.html
Today's printed correction contains corrections for 8 different articles:
Here's an article that was edited 11 minutes before I wrote the comment with an error as bad as most on the list of Vox errors:
And another that was edited today:
This is what happens when you publish thousands of articles a year. Yeah, they made mistakes and probably half-read their sources in a lot of these cases, but this article isn't damning.
dipsy18 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:06:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For number 8, you are focusing on the headline. They had to correct the entire article including the headline! Please read before you post.
thebetrayer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're going to have to show me where that's written in either article. The list just quotes the correction at the bottom of the page, and the original has nothing more on the fact that it was a rewrite.
It looks more like they just added this line:
and wrote the word "Jewish" in front of every use of "Israeli".
dipsy18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay if I wrote an entire article about how 99% of people polled in Illinois are voting for a Republic candidate and then followed up by saying "oops! Sorry, forgot to add that the people that were polled are all republicans" It kinda changes the entire point of the article doesn't it and I would be a very shitty journalist...case closed
thebetrayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Intent has a lot to do with it. If you have intent to deceive, then you would be. But I'd expect every journalist to make at least one mistake at some point in their career.
dipsy18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, you are pretty naive if you believe journalists( especially those at Vox ) aren't trying to push an agenda.
uvwaex ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:15:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"The Internet"
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MrWigglesworth2 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:00:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Left, not liberal. Ezra Klein is about as illiberal a person as you'll find.
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elite0x33 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 15:28:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't work like that, this isn't how a discussion works. Try again.
wantmake ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:39:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How has Obamacare been an unmitigated disaster?
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Deagor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:17:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
especially considering most of the problems repubs point out tend to be caused by blocks put in place by repubs against obamacare
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like the complete failure of co-ops founded with hundred million dollar loans from the feds? The ones that suffered from the exact moral hazard and adverse selection that was brought up by every analyst with a basic understanding of how insurance works?
professional_giraffe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Because I don't like socialism ruining this country!! (no sources) /s
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its not socialism lol...and Bernie isn't a true socialist either. They are capitalists who are sympathetic to the needy, like humans should be.
professional_giraffe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with you. My comment was for sarcasm only, hence the "/s".
Deagor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has reddit really gotten to the stage where sarcasm can't be detected even with a /s tag -.-
NotANinja ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:11:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not how it works.
radios_appear ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:14:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is easily the dumbest comment I've seen today.
I guess this is where not having Civics classes anymore utterly failed American education.
Ron_Swanson12 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 16:22:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The day is young I hope you find a betterer worser one.
professional_giraffe ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:10:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your english is deplorable.
Ron_Swanson12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I totally didn't do that on purpose.
professional_giraffe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's forgivable. Carry on.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whoosh.
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Ron_Swanson12 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:26:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your comment suggests Vox is not biased.
ragingprostate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:11:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your comment suggests you can't comprehend simple ideas.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:06:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No it doesn't, its just suggests Vox is less bias than you
AerThreepwood ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:21:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is Vox bad? I've never even heard of it.
And since that is also the internet, it's at least partially representative.
BillsFan90 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:25:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Balance is what they intended for. I will be voting Republican this time around for 2 reasons. 1) I am a strong believer in the balance I just alluded to and 2) I cannot bring myself to vote for 4 more years of gridlock. Only a Republican President will be able to get things done this election cycle and I think it is time for that line of thinking given how things have gone the past 7+
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BillsFan90 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:45:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a realist way to look at it. Fact: Bernie will be able to get very little done as a President. That is why there is only 3 Democrats running and there was 17 Republicans. Yes, I do support a wall assuming Mexico at least co-finances it. I recently moved from NY to Texas and see the problem illegal immigration poses almost daily. Negotiation 101: take a hard stance. Trump took a very hard one saying Mexico will pay for the entire thing. We have a lot of leverage in this negotiation. Realistically they will co-finance and American workers will be primarily behind the project.
tophermeyer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, why did you have to defend the goddam wall? I was on board your argument the way, then this fucking wall comes up.
The wall is a silly sideshow. It literally had nothing to do with your main point. That guy dangled it out there as bait to paint you as an irrational extremist and it worked. It absolutely worked. You got ambushed by a wall! A wall that doesn't even fucking exist yet!
That stupid wall idea has become the r/Politics version of a Nigerian prince scam. People trod it out to identify who the extremists are. Nothing good comes from talking about the wall.
BillsFan90 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:53:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The wall is barely on the radar as reasons for my supporting Trump. If Mexico will at the very least co-finance it, then yes, absolutely. Especially if it puts more Americans to work and secures our border.
Implementing other initiatives like e-verify and stricter visa regulations will do just as much to curb the problem so we can start getting Illegal Mexicans/central Americans back home safely and the ever-growing American welfare class who will actually pay their fair share of tax, back to work.
An asterisk on their name so if they choose to apply to come back, they will have a shorter waiting period is perfectly agreeable with me but they need to go through the legal process. Some Illegals are Illegals because they know they would not be accepted legally because of their gang affiliations, criminal history, etc. No bueno
DID_IT_FOR_YOU ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:48:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No offense but a slow government with checks and balances is much preferred over one that can allow one party to basically do w/e the fuck they want when in power.
Would any of you be advocating for change if it were Republicans in control of both Congress and the Presidency?
Personally I'm already pissed off at some of the things Obama has done through executive actions to basically bypass Congress.
What he has done with Title IX for example has been almost a complete disaster that has resulted in kangaroo courts where English teachers are in charge instead of I don't know... Actual professionals like the police? Who can seriously defend having math professors and English teachers handling sexual assault cases instead of the police? It's basically a fuck you to due process.
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dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a myth.
pepsi109 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure there are many things in our constitution that don't work for the 21st century, yet we have made it blasphemous to even mention a change now.
eukomos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Inefficient progress is much better than efficient disaster, if you ask me. The founding fathers knew the details of the collapse of the Roman Republic quite well, and a major contributor to the failure of that system was handing sweeping powers over to politicians and generals who pretty much turned into warlords because of the fear that whatever problem they were having at the moment was such a terrible crisis that more efficient use of power was needed.
Any hey, sometimes it worked. Early in the Roman civil wars a temporary dictator named Sulla had several thousand of his political enemies executed and by God it patched up the government well enough for the republic to stagger along for a few more decades. Success!
frankybonez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was also a somewhat successful argument that many of the safeguards put in place after the stock market crash prior to Great Depression were outdated. That argument worked out real well for us about seven or eight years ago. /s
adilu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's more about checks and balances which encourages politicians to compromise than slowness. I know that many Americans feel frustrated about their system, but as someone from a country which has been terribly suffering from the lack of such checks and balances in the last decade (Turkey), I respect Madison and all those guys who put counter-majoritarian measures in place more and more everyday. Today the political spectrum is polarized in the US and it's difficult to come to a compromise more than ever. But this doesn't mean it's going to remain so forever. You may not like the fact that some of the changes you are for may not happen in your lifetime, but it's better than learning the consequences of 'fast government' the hard way.
UNC_Samurai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They also scrapped a slower, more decentralized government in favor of one that was more responsive to the needs of a country to function.
peesteam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:23 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's inefficient on purpose.
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roma258 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the argument that the Presidential system has supported a stable, democratic form of government is the strongest one it has (the unpleasantness of the mid-1800s aside). I often find myself envious of the efficient resolution of crises by the various Parliamentary systems and their short election cycle (everyone hates the current coalition? boom, election next month!) but it does seem to produce a sort of instability and uncertainty that we, for the most part manage to avoid.
But the last 6 years have made me wonder. We've been on the verge of some pretty disastrous stuff, only to pull back from the brink (debt default is just one example). And this is primarily the result of the executive and legislative branches of government being fundamentally at odds with each other and having wildly different ideas about governing.
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roma258 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That the optimistic (?) interpretation. But it all stems from the legislative and executive branches being essentially adversarial towards each other, when opposing parties are in power.
dipsy18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DOMA was struck down by the supreme court, the gay marriage debate is over and has nothing to do with this election cycle or further ones..let it go...
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dipsy18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You really can say never in this instance. The gay marriage national debate was really just trying to convince the older generation of news ways of thinking. With my generation ( 30s ), nobody I know ( republican or democrat ) cares about sexual orientation. So, as we continue to move forward I'm pretty confident it will never be an issue again.
rhllor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC there are a lot of religious liberty shit running around state legislatures lately, most aimed against LGBT people. Like what happened with Roe - sure they can't overturn it, but they can definitely make it significantly more difficult, bit by bit, year after year.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean by "religious liberty shit"?
rhllor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's a recent one from a random link I got when I googled "religious liberty bills".
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2016/01/05/3735875/georgia-religious-liberty-lgbt/
dipsy18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like what? I haven't heard about anything besides maybe lone wolf representatives just talking. Do you have any examples of legislature that has any real chance of passing?
rhllor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:51 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read my reply below, there's also a lot if you google "religious liberty bills". You're missing the point though, specific bills are not the point. Look at Roe. Over several decades, a lot has been done to chip away at those rights. I don't remember if it was Texas or Mississippi or some other state that only has one abortion provider in the entire state. The same thing is being done to LGBTs. They might not be able to overturn the SC decision, but they will definitely try to make things difficult for LGBT people as much as possible.
DARIF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a claim based on a lot of qualifiers. Here's some more info.
And btw there is a very important difference between a republic and a democracy.
Anyway here's some interesting excerpts I found, turns out you need the oldest continuing qualifier because world's oldest democracy is a hotly contested claim!
pond_good_for_you ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:35:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always figured it was designed slow, if that's really what happened, because the country was pretty spread out and it took a little for the horses to get back and forth with messages.
h0twired ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:00:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or possibly progress...
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h0twired ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Progress for a nation going bankrupt fighting wars over oil.
Progress for a nation of people going bankrupt because they got sick.
Progress for a nation obsessed with guns while the number of mass shootings continues to climb
Progress for a nation filled with farmers unable to make ends meet and required to buy seed from Monsanto.
Progress for a nation with more incarcerated people per capita than any other country in the world.
Progress for a nation that spends billions on a space program while kids go hungry.
Progress for a nation whose teachers are paid little more than the waiter at a restaurant.
dorekk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:46:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think the Founders ever considered a political landscape as fractious as ours is now. 200 years ago, this system worked. Even 100 years ago, it more or less worked. Now? I think we need to rethink how it works. For example, I don't think it's possible to amend the Constitution anymore. I just can't imagine enough of our elected representatives having that much consensus over anything anymore.
killbot0224 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:51:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Canada we have NO checks or balances though, unless there's a minority government.
Just look what "The Harper Government" was able to pull off (first of all... let's just talk about the self-important narcissism of actually referring to itself as such)
We have an impotent Senate. Appointed, rather than elected... oh great, they have no special interests to serve! Wait, they had to serve them beforehand to even get the appointment. So in a slightly more reasonable move, they generally just rubber stamp everything that parliament passes just because they can't actually claim to represent their people.
On the upside... this lack of red tape hopefully means the Libs can undo some of the more grievous things Harper did. Like basically week 1, they reinstated the long-form census with a wave of their hand.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:19:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They need to become more like our House of Lords in the UK. The majority of the Lords recently voted down a bill to pass through tax credits, much to the annoyance of the Conservatives, who then decided they would try and limit the power of the Lords. That was a quick change of mind. Can't have people interfering in their plans to make the poor poorer.
killbot0224 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
B-but but but! TAX CREDITS!
We're giving money back! totherich
That's money back in your okayreallytheir pockets!
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:19:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a bug, it's a feature.
Poet_of_Legends ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:05:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And deliberately.
Separation of Powers is one of the smartest things about our system, and simultaneously the most frustrating.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most western democracies have separation of powers where it matters - government and judiciary. What the American system does is create the executive - a barricaded lame duck that's essentially just a spokesperson with control of the military.
Canada, the UK, Australia and NZ get more done because they ensure the Prime Minister is part of the elected government. The PM can't unilaterally do anything without the majority support of the members, but is usually the director of policy alongside the ministers. Ministers are sworn in like secretaries and have appropriate powers.
KornymthaFR ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:56:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Get more done" is not exclusively a good thing. Don't pretend that it can't be used to pass bullcrap laws.
SirNoName ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:39:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because the US can't fit BS laws into bills that pass congress?
(i'll note though, that I think our system in general is good. Two party needs to die in a fire though)
dorekk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:17:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Our current system isn't preventing that at all, so...
LiveFree1773 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not preventing it; however, it is mitigating it.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:19:43 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No parliamentary system, including the US Congress, stops the ability to pass "bullcrap laws". That's up to the representatives.
The Westminister system prevents the sort of gridlock of the US system by having a definitive "Government" and "Opposition" with a single majority vote. No filibusters. No super majorities. Just an up and down vote to pass.
RedZaturn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. The whole nation is self regulating. The branches of the government regulate each other, and the people regulate the government with the constitution. The founding fathers intended the second amendment to be a worst case scenario form of regulating the government if they stopped listening to their people and started ignoring the constitution. That kinda worries me that Obama wants to take executive action on gun control. Not saying he is going to take over as a dictator, but no one man should be able to do things like that.
UniquelyBadIdea ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:14:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Part of the design is to limit the strength of the federal government and part is to limit popular passions.
Originally, the person with the 2nd most electoral votes would be elected Vice President. So, in effect the first loser of the presidential election became VP.
The 12th Amendment was passed because this lead to creating a mess with the two not getting along.
Additionally, the Executive Branch in the US has a tendency to grab more power than it merits during war time and we've been at war for a long time.
An overly simplified form of how the US Government is supposed to work is that Congress makes laws, the Executive enforces laws, and the Judicial Branch evaluates laws. Each group has some checks and balance on the others.
https://www.usa.gov/branches-of-government
Instead, we are at a point where we read articles about Republicans in the House and Senate are preventing Obama from creating new laws or improving things.
Part of this is because Congress is so corrupt and incompetent nobody trusts most of them.
Part is because the Media has generally supported the President over Congress. (Both with Bush and Obama)
Part is because the nation is at war.
But, it's honestly rather stupid and dangerous.
What happens if we get Trump and he uses the power in the same way or goes farther than Bush or Obama.
Bohnanza ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:21:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Canada's government is Parliamentary, like a lot of other countries.
FWIW the US constitution contains no mention of any political parties, and certainly no "two party system".
eSDLoco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:31:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you love Canada so much why don't you marry it.
jtyndalld ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:56:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of our Supreme Court justices recently caused a stir by saying that, if we were to start from scratch, a parliamentary system would benefit us most.
Montgomery0 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:13:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's all about checks and balances. The perfect system, except for one fatal flaw, the people involved have to give a shit about the country.
IdunnoLXG ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:07:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
American Government is designed to be inefficient to protect the rights of the people. It's puposefully designed to be this way. Complete partisonship is the only real big issue.
sev1nk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Our democracy is built on compromise, as Obama stated during the SOTU.
SpotNL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:15:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's the nature of democracy, not just the US's.
Smudgeontheglass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Canada, the role of President is actually that of the Queen, or in our case the representative of the Queen, the Governor General. The difference being is that our highest leader is basically a figurehead and nothing more. The power to influence government and deploy troops was removed and placed in parliament. I can't remember if it is still in place, but the Monarchy had the ability to veto bills, but never used it.
Constitutional Monarchy vs. Constitutional Republic.
Si421 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's a great CGP Grey video explaining the recent (and awful) UK elections. I'm sure most people should be able to understand this.
And yeah, I believe UK and Canada work much the same way. It's a shame it doesn't work very well, all the time.
HeadLiceOnYourToes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:33:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, this isn't an effect of the parliamentary system, it's the effect of first past the post voting.
Si421 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:20 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I realise I didn't make that clear... Whoops.
Cheewy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Parlamientary Democracy vs Presidentialist Democracy.
liberaces_taco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How it used to be was when presidents were elected it was considered a sort of "will of the people" and Congress was a lot more likely to pass what they wanted. That is why often people measure a president by what they do in their first hundred days because that sentiment has yet to wear off. Notice how Obama's ACA was passed very early in the presidency.
Additionally, when a new president is voted in often Congress also gets an influx of that same party. When Obama was first elected there was a majority in both the House and Senate of Democrats. Often though by the midterm elections this changes and people go back to voting opposite party. Generally, though if they get re-elected there is another surge of their party being elected back into Congress. So often (but not always of course) for a few years they do have a Congress that will help them get things done.
Things have gotten a lot worse though because before people used to cross the aisle and at least have some respect for the office. Now for some reason they waste tons and tons of time just pissing each other off and have ceremonial votes.
TheMediumPanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most (if not all) European countries work the same way. Government power cannot as easily as in the US be divided. Parlamentarianism kinda guarantees that elections will be held before such things might occur.
Hypertroph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That would be because the President is the head of state, and the Prime Minister is the head of government. Two very different roles.
voodoochile78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the other hand, we Canadians are serfs to a foreign monarch in the 21st century.
blazemongr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How does that work in the voter's mind, anyway? Are you electing a party, which selects the leader (who you may not approve of as an individual)? Or do you really vote for the party's leader, and get the rest of the party along for the ride (whether you like them or not)?
imatworkprobably ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The problem you are bringing up is caused by gerrymandering. Districts are drawn in a manner that allows the party with a minority of State-wide votes can hold a majority of seats in said State.
There are several states that voted for Obama both times but in which a majority of congressional seats went to Republicans, for example.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And it seems like you're government sets themselves up for success. I guess you hope to define success the same way as your majority.
(tyranny of the majority anyone?)
jazaniac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The UK system is much worse. At least here a minority of people can't elect their representatives.
N1CK_G3RR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting fact, the governor general selects a party to form parliament, regardless if they have the most representatives or not. I don't know of a case where the governor general asked a party with less representatives to form parliament, and I'd assume this process is more of a formality now, but it's still interesting.
USAuthority ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's called a balance of power. you never want one part of government to be too powerful. it's why we're the most powerful country in the world you are not.
Braddock54 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stephen Harper didn't fair all that well either, although not as sullen looking as Obama
2006 to 2015
http://imgur.com/qYyvDUI
learning2speak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, that was intentional on the part of the founding fathers. If you read some of their writings you get a sense for their intentions. They didn't want the "mob" to be able to completely throw out the status quo in 1 election. There is a high-burden to affect change due to how things are structured. This has pros and cons for both ends of the political spectrum.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In addition to the answers others have given, the American form of government was not designed with a two-party system in mind. Ideally, the President and Congress would be elected because voters thought they were best for the job, not because of their political parties. The two-party system actually undermines the American system as laid out in the Constitution.
a_frayn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The big difference is their leader gets his power directly from the electorate. Our Prime Minister gets theirs from the Commons (which is elected by the people).
iushciuweiush ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is how they should always be elected. God knows we don't need one party just shoving through their preferred legislation without opposition.
Jace_09 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:19:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As is tradition.
thatgeekinit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:23:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
What has really broken the US system is that the conservatives here (Republican party) decided when they took the House majority in the 1994, after decades of Democratic control to imitate the way opposition parties operate in parliamentary systems. Unfortunately that gradually breaks down the ability of the US system to be governable and effective. Now we have crumbling infrastructure and a wealthy class that writes their own laws, and certainly their own tax code, essentially because loopholes and stupid court decisions take years or decades to fix legislatively and the executive and judicial branch are chronically hobbled by the failure of the Senate to confirm appointed positions.
Our system requires far too much consensus and compromise for one party to declare: For the next 4, 6, 8 years we plan to block every thing through every procedural avenue available.
BitGladius ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:25:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's kind of the point. By setting up the system like we did, with two houses of Congress, one population dependent and one not, and a president who isn't elected with them, we reduce the risk of one party running away with the ball and force compromise.
Look at all of Obama's agenda. See how much of the early stuff passed on a party line vote when he had the congressional majority. It's still nearly party line, but better. Many of our best known presidents got stuff done the right way, by finding a middle ground everyone was happy with.
ireallydontknowffs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:43:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After learning about parliamentary systems (like in Canada and the UK), I'm starting to think that they're superior in this age. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if a majority party isn't chosen, it means that some sort of coalition/consensus between parties must be achieved.
Here in the US, we have so many congressional rules and gerrymandering that we've pretty much guaranteed ourselves gridlock for the foreseeable future unless one of our only two parties achieves a super majority. At least in a parliamentary system, it seems like things will be accomplished and promises made during campaigns would be easier to keep.
Duliticolaparadoxa ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 14:32:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well that and the stress of holding the lives of hundreds of millions/billions of people in your hands. Dude does preside over enough nuclear weapons to wipe out civilization. That's a whole level of stress that we can't imagine. Most of us may not agree on all of his decisions but it is still amazing that he was able to hold together this country and the international relations of the globe without it all falling apart and devolving into conflict and chaos
IrrelevantLeprechaun ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:16:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the fact that the entire country holds him solely responsible for every problem in the USA.
mynamesyow19 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:51:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
especially considering that "conflict and chaos" was all he inherited...well that and a DOA economy.
vanquish421 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:10:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh please. Dude has only added to it. Arming rebels, gun running to Mexican cartel, the Libya disaster...
If none of the above took place, I might feel for him, but aside from starting an outright war, the guy is about as hawkish as they come. Same with Hillary.
Calfurious ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:21:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the Bush administration armed the rebels? Wait no I believe Obama armed the Syrian rebels and the Bush Administration were the ones who dissolved the Iraqi army that would later become ISIS and assist/become the rebels in the Syrian war.
Boy that's complicated.
mynamesyow19 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:46:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
like the two (Iraq and Afghanistan), or three (if you count the 'global war on terror') that was handed to him, and started by his predecessor ?
Interesting (to put it lightly) that you would compare the small-scale actions in Libya or Mexico with those kind of Mutli-Trillion dollar$, hundreds of thousands of boots on the ground conflicts that the Bush GOP rammed us into. Despite the fact that they're not even in the same ball park in terms of money, resources, or troops...so pretty much a reach.
and as for "arming rebels" you seem to forget that that plan is part of a massive coalition of nearly the entire "West" including the EU, US, Canada, and many ME countries...not just the US going it alone (again, like Bush and Company did in Iraq...)
but other than that you are right on...
and no comment on the DOA economy i mentioned that he inherited ?
crewserbattle ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:23:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't change that he inherited a bad situation.
vanquish421 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:24:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My point is that he'll be leaving some bad shit to the next guy/gal, too. The housing bubble that helped tank the economy started under Clinton, and was handed to Bush. This will continue with every presidency, most likely.
crewserbattle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:27:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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TrekMek ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:33:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You sure about that? The end of the Bush administration was a fucking nightmare.
Don't know where you were, but where I live things look much better than when everyone was scrambling for a job while trying not to lose their homes.
zuilserip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Putin presides over a roughly equivalent number of nuclear weapons. Does anyone have an equivalent before/after for him?
Yancy_Farnesworth ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:13:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Before
After
Murican_Freedom1776 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 14:54:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
He wasn't even able to do that. Race relations are at an all time high, partisanship is high,
North Korea just tested another nuke, Syria might as well belong to ISIS, Crimea now belongs to Russia, Ukraine is in turmoil, we are on the verge of having to return toAfghanistanIraq, and our allies feel like we've abandoned them.Edit: I'll be fair, he couldn't have prevented the nuke in North Korea. And as a user pointed out we never really left Afghanistan.
Glenbard ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:58:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We never left Afghanistan. We still have thousands of Soldiers deployed there.
DetectiveLennyBrisco ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:14:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All these things OP speaks of are nothing new, just different scenarios. Of course things get worse as time goes on, it's the system that's broken, not one president.
Murican_Freedom1776 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 14:59:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True but it's still a lot less than we had. I think Obama learned his lesson with Iraq.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:59:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not entirely sure a war with Russia would have been the best thing to do. It would have just created more chaos.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:23:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The Obama administration handled the situation pretty well considering. It wouldn't have been possible to deter Russia from invading Crimea because it came out of the blue. We probably had cables suggesting the Russians were going to make a move, but the administration handled it well. By sanctioning the oligarchy of Russia, bringing Germany and France to the negotiating table as major partners, advocating for alternative energy sources for Europe, and providing nonviolent assistance to Ukraine, they have prevented Ukraine from being swallowed up by Russia. The President effectively mitigated the crisis. You don't want to know the other possible outcomes that were presented (Russia sending in 100,000 troops from their southern military district, sweeping from the east all the way to Odessa, or taking everything up to Dnieper River, even Kiev). While it appears to not be a success, Ukraine can be considered a diplomatic plus for the US in what was a highly volatile situation.
I didn't even add in how the administration took advantage of Russia's invasion and increased NATO's military capabilities over the past year. Quick Reaction Forces (which honestly is just power projection and will just be there to pull out valuable assets from Eastern countries if Russia attacks) in Eastern Europe, missile defense systems placed back in Eastern Europe (which block the path of potential Iranian ICBMs to Europe and the US), new gas sources for the EU (a new pipeline is in the works that would be sourced from Iraqi Kurdistan and run through Turkey), etc.
CommJimHoredem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:19:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
POTUS wasn't able to hold the U.S. together because other nations did terrible shit to each other.
Yeah...good talk, bro... /s
DerLoladin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:04:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not much to do when Congress is doing their best to block you at every single step and, thanks to a majority, succeeds
rowd149 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:36:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. It's not even up for discussion; they literally said that their goal was to make sure that the president couldn't get anything done. I don't think that's ever happened before.
Republicans really hate bluh people.
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These Republicans don't care about governing. They just want to "win."
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love how people mention a whole bunch of shit other countries are up to as evidence that the President of the United States of America failed.
Guess what? If Bush hadn't gotten involved with Iraq, ISIS wouldn't exist, and Syria wouldn't be in this situation.
Things that Russia do are not our problem either.
ImEatingASandwich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you mean race relations are at an all time low, and no, they most definitely are not.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of sandwich are you eating?
BrightShadowHunt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:14:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A peanut butter/Jelly sandwich. How about you?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:16:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A Cereal/Milk sandwich.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:59:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"A house divided against itself will not stand". He couldnt even work with the fucking republican-controlled chamber. And not because he didnt try, they just had a massive hard-on against obama. Reminds me of Clinton-Gingrich all over again.
Wolf482 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Democrats kind of did the same thing against Bush when congress was taken back by the Dems. It's not new nor specific to just the Republicans.
Murican_Freedom1776 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:05:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't try. It was always "do it my way or I'll do it myself". Obama was the one that refused to compromise then by the time he decided he was ready to compromise (after losing control of the house) he had already created the partisanship. I don't blame the republicans for not working with him, he made them out to be anti-women, racist, wanting to revert back to the 50's where women couldn't vote and blacks couldn't go to school. I wouldn't do vote for anything he wants after making me out to be racist, hating women, and wanting segregation.
Obama is a joke.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:19:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure their actions make themselves out to be those things.
SpotNL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:21:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Surely you have quotes on this.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're an idiot. Obama had a supermajority and a chance to pass basically any law his party wanted. And he still decided to work with the Republicans anyway, in the spirit of bipartisanship. (Probably to not look like a bully to the American people.) How'd that work out? Pretty fuckin' shitty.
Obama's mistake in the first couple years of his presidency was attempting to compromise at all, not compromising too much.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's wrong with that?
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:29:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except that Clinton went along with Gingrich and saw an economic boom because of it. Obama has fought the House and Senate tooth and nail and our economy has been anemic because of it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Humm, Gingrich shutdown the government, ergo, Monica. I remember seeing the video clips of Gingrich being a complete ass to Slick Willy and countering him all the time. I do agree with you about obama picking fights when some of them were unnecessary.
todayismyluckyday ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's amazing going how people still give him the benefit of the doubt based on what he "inherited". He had 2 freaking terms to get something done,one of which was with a super majority.
His only legacy to date, is the Affordable Care Act.
Wolf482 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:29:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a registered Republican but am a Libertarian in all actuality. I'll give him this, I was extremely happy to see him establish ties again with Cuba. I was ecstatic when that Cold War relic was destroyed.
SpotNL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the Iran deal. Sometimes you got to extend an olive branch, and I'm glad both parties took it. Iran is far from perfect, but it's not the monster hiding in your closet either.
tupacsnoducket ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't say race relations are at an all time high, I'd say police and their systemic behavior is at an all time WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE THIS SHIT ANYMORE. My experience has been that all the colors of the rainbow are doing better than ever now that everyone realized that Blue is the problem. /s
CatLover1968 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:04:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot about selling guns to drug cartels.
hegz0603 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:05:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...despite our best efforts to do exactly that.
RotaryJihad ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:24:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That seems pretty low stress to me. There are two paths:
1) You're the kind of person that DOESN'T want to nuke everyone. So you don't. Not killing humanity == not stressed.
2) You're the kind of person who DOES want to nuke everyone. So you figure out how you can do it and you get to do it. Living a psychotic dream == not stressed.
cockonmydick ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:26:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TODAY I LEARNED PEOPLE AGE
Weird-boners ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:40:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not having a clear conscience will do that to you.
Techthefan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:49:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i.e. republicans that want to stop him from doing anything too liberal.
malariasucks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:01:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how can you even blame it on Congress? His own party was in power for a long time and even when the Democrats got together with Bush to pass immigration reform in 2007, both parties decided to act a fool
Sleeperaccord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:57:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if that has anything to do with how our government is designed to function, hmmmmmm.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:01:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why he doesn't do it.
fockface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or it's just a terribly timed photograph. I guarantee you you can find a bunch of bright bubbly Obama pictures from that night. They wouldn't go with the narrative of this post of course.
Basically all of the top pictures in a Google search show a much more relaxed and comfortable looking Obama.
EDIT: link
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
taking a screenshot from a video at just the right moment will do that to you
raster_raster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drugs will do that too.
stonefry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read this with Obama's voice.
Dire87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I was dealing with stubborn dickheads every day, and I was nowhere near the political field...working in a high stress environment will do that to you. It's not just Congress, but I think the higher the responsibilities the sooner the symptoms show.
xsladex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's probably why he skipped them 1500 times
shitishouldntsay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bypassing Congress will do that to you.
xxmindtrickxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So will 8 years
qa2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Democrats will even blame old age on republicans.
mlong14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have to be narcissist or crazy to want to be a President.
Ahdilable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dealing in Congress will do that to ya
Election night and I'm at the the top
Don't believe me, just watch...
SuperBrenn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since when does he deal with congress? he goes around them all the time.
Bywisdom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't use this as a propaganda platform.. Dealing with world issues in general will do that to you.. Gosh
cortex112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fighting against half a country will do that to you.
LSUtiger93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being divisive as hell will do it to you too
halp_what_do_I_do ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also 8 years in general
that_white_gold ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you believe in all that Myers Briggs personality stuff I can give some insight into possibly why Obama might be prone to stress. Apparently he is an ENFJ which what makes him incredibly kind hearted, charismatic, and an especially good leader. However the weight of the world can take a toll on him emotionally because he is very empathic. I am also an ENFJ. Too altruistic for our own good. Incredibly sensitive
verity77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vampires are sucking his blood and aging him!
csmit244 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Congress is a helluva drug
HookDragger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, congress is a relaxing time compared to all the other security and intelligence threats he has to deal with.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's also factor in the 8 years i.e. the effects of time along with the stress..
The_Goose_II ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let alone a shitty Republican led one.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Illuminati*
magnora7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dealing with the CIA you mean
USAuthority ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's just part of being president. dealing with congress is just one of the many, many very stressful parts of being potus.
day7seven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's the opposite of Progress? Congress...
Hayseus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, just imagine what the members of congress look like by now!
MagicalPowerfulEvil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the public would be the worst. No matter what you do or say, you will have enraged some group, somewhere; sometimes irrationally.
mm242jr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:48 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, dealing with asshole Republicans (sorry for the redundancy) who vowed on the day of his inauguration to make his life miserable.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:55:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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iushciuweiush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every president looks like this before and after and I assure you, a shitty congress pales in comparison to the stress of being a 'world leader' and dealing with foreign politics.
avidworks ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:57:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having an entire country full of people blaming you for its problems will do that to you.
CatLover1968 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:05:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and then prosecuting people for pointing out the problems in your administration.
vanquish421 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:54:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And blocking investigations into the problems you created, like Fast & Furious.
๐๏ธ iBleeedorange ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:10:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea. Thanks Obama.
Knotwood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keeping track of lies will do that to you.
infra177 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Murdering all those kids in drone strikes will do that to you.
Ballzach114 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He probably realized that his administration is ruining the country and that hes a bad president for skipping out on half the things he promised to do
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:09:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn skippy! I miss the halcyon days of the Dubster. Now that was a leader... leading us right to two simultaneous wars and economic collapse.
opsmomdelivered ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 14:44:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
ignoring congress.
gimme downvotes reddit. I eats them.
๐๏ธ iBleeedorange ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:46:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or getting blackballed by congress depending on your point o view.
thesequimkid ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 14:52:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From my point of view he's been the one to blackball congress.
SpatialArchitect ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:55:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Almost expected to read about the Jedi being evil. What has this place done to me?
killhimalready ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:00:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YOU ARE LOST
FirstTimeWang ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:56:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, he's the one with the black balls and possession is 9/10ths of the law, no?
Pokebalzac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:56:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From my point of view the Jedi are evil!
Sykotik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is hilarious. Even you can't honestly believe that crap, lol.
thesequimkid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't. I was trying to make a joke.
Sykotik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My bad.
OldWorldStyle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From my point of view the Jedi are evil
bleunt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:19:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1DcD8e55YY
todayismyluckyday ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's called... ahem, "executive decisions".
Takeme2yourleader ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 14:59:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean. Not dealing with congress.
Rlchv70 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:34:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dr. Who reference?
NonaSuomi282 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:04:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't you think he looks tired?
xaaar ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:08:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just six words.
Onlyhereforthelaughs ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:00:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Don't you think he looks tired?
Grandmaofhurt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:00:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I couldn't imagine the president ever getting more than like 5 hours of sleep a night.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably stays up late browsing /r/sexwithdogs
softawre ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:18:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks older for sure, but I think he's covering up a lot in the first image with makeup/hair-dye.
king_of_the_universe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:22:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But how much of the crass contrast between the images is just due to snapshot timing? (I'm not saying it's intentional.)
For example, do you really believe that his eyes were mostly that "open" (Sleepy.) during the whole speech?
Ultima2876 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:34:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People often say that with these kinds of 'comparison' photos, but you have to remember this is 8 years of difference. Unless you're Will Smith, 8 years will make you look tired!
OnlyOnceThreetimes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention, depending when a shot is taken, you can either look good, or like shit.
jfk_47 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:09:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is so ready to start painting with his bro GW.
Hagenaar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:13:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's got some city miles on him.
DucksGoQuackQuack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:57:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is Joe Camel.
SirSmashySmashy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Christ, yes.
He just needs a hug from his waifu and a nap.
Someone get him a blankie, he looks so worn out.
carlordau ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like he has put up with a lot of shit and seen a lot of shit.
cosworth99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidents don't get a lot of sleep
Bradford_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like his own father.
atworkbeincovert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dealing with congress for that long will do that to you
coop0606 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fighting the axis of evil will do that to you.
Goodguymajali ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks black
thisrockismyboone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years will do that
Odin_Exodus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you imagine the shit he has had to deal with?
tiga4life22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not that it's any comparison but look at a picture of yourself from 8 years ago.
hamderson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks out of date
thyyoungclub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He knows we have the cure for AIDS and can't tell anyone
Fagbutt6969 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks hungry
Kekkonshiki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is he Jaden Obama?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama on the left: * raising finger * ...and I would just like to add that [insert something inspirational]
Obama on the right: * raising finger * ...and I would just like to....ahh, nevermind. Fuckitwhatever, I'm tired
matsche_pampe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I was thinking too.
TheAngryGoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So tired, he can't even remember that he used to be right-handed.
GayNiggerFag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And ashy
joanzen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even is fucking tie lost some color and looks more grey!?
zkiller195 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He does, but you've gotta consider two things:
He's 54 years old now. Most men his age look noticeably worse than they did 7 years ago. He's now ~15% older than he was going in, and it's showing.
Going into his first year of presidency, it was like he was a newlywed man. We all went on some dates with him during the election, we said "I do" on Election Day, and now here we were together on our honeymoon. But he was still putting on a mask, trying to impress and look his best. Now we've been married for 7 years. Maybe we've had a few disagreements. He tells jokes that would have embarrassed him all those years ago. He farts in our presence, and sometimes even goes for the Dutch Oven.
In this century, tabloids follow the president like an A list celebrity, which means we've seen him at his best, but we've also seen him at his worst. His personal life is covered more in the media than any president before him, and he knows it. After years of having been in the spotlight, he probably just doesn't care about his physical appearance nearly as much. Sure, he still tries to look professional at public events (he is the president after all), but he's not up for re-election, so why try to impress?
tpsrep0rts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/GidbEhL0teE?t=2m57s
249ba36000029bbe9749 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cherry picking photos from both years let's you accentuate that perception.
ITRAINEDYOURMONKEY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I'd like to see comparison pictures of any random guy at 47 and at 54. It's a transition time.
Danttdantt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also purposefully a terrible picture.
Engineereded ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That much stress from being in such an important position where everything you do impacts everyone will age you.
kekehippo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Working almost 12 hours a day for 8 years will do that to you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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kekehippo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or that you spent the entirety of the defense budget as your personal escort around the world. What a stupid report, the entire US Navy was apparently following Obama around in Hawaii on vacation.
FierySharknado ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He still looks better than Kennedy did at the end of his presidency
denizen42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fighting snakes all day can do that.
physicshammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll just note quickly here that Teddy Roosevelt was invigorated by the presidency aside from one bout of insomnia, and was never seen yawning or tired or worn out while president, while maintaining a work ethic that far surpassed Obama's, and while bringing the country together, while increasing our stature, and avoiding war, while expanding the military, and without increasing the deficit at all.
sansoar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yes
btwchic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why anyone would want that job is beyond me.
no_ego_pro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks 8 years older
supersonic-turtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
probably cosmetics to make him look tired like he "did a bang up job in a tough situation"(true, but media exaggerates and no team gets neglected more than the cosmetic team). Like he looked fresh and young 8 years ago, but old and wise by age now... I wager a few months out of office he is going to miraculously appear his age again.
Teekoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He just looks older.
ld2gj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Between congress, dumb people who cannot read or understand facts, other nations, lobbyists, etc; who would not be?
conflicted_guy12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The 6 words The Doctor can use to bring down any government.
"Don't you think they look tired?"
duckmilk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lying to an entire nation will do that to you :-/
cpu_illiterate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Murica f*cked him up..
csl512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't you think he looks tired?
mainvolume ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every president who has had double terms looks way older. W and Clinton both looked way older after their 8 years were up. Lots of gray hair, more lines in their face, "it's not the years, it's the mileage".
AlostDinosaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he needs a snickers
TXLEG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice try Doctor, you've pulled that trick before. Harriet Jones for PM!
blazemongr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Blame the Doctor.
rcbs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That happens when you hate your job and suck at it.
CSMom74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You guys do realize that he has a lot of makeup on in the first pic, and less on in the second. It's very well known that he does wear make-up, especially for these television appearances. Pretty much all presidents do.
Yes, he has more deeply etched lines near his mouth and forehead, but that huge skin change is makeup. He had on rather thick pancake foundation in the first pic. He even had on lip color. I don't know if the droopy look is from being mid-blink or what. However, he DOES have on a lot more makeup in the first pic. Or just different makeup.
fearachieved ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like he's seen some shit.
Also, at his age advancing the clock 8 years will do a lot of aging either way.
I don't think this is necessarily just a "wow president must be hard job"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So does the flag pin.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't wish the responsibility of leading this country on anyone. I don't know why people keep kissing ass to be in that role.
unfaix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From all of the bs.
simonbsez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He even changed from right-handed to left-handed.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tired of dealing with all the retards in this country
TheDingyMuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And inadequate
SeanAnthonie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More importantly, American people are tired of him. Im sure we look alot worse.
imhiLARRYous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
of your shit fam
Comax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The mans seen some shit.
reedownlee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a compound thing; a lot stress -- a lot -- and frankly, past 55 a lot of people start to age more obviously. Skin loosens up, you get a wattle, what lines you have grow more pronounced. You can fight it with cosmetic surgery or lots of botox, or both (Hi, Mitt!).
But the intensity of it, yes, I'm guessing that's the job. Remember, FDR died getting the nation through WWII.
newtothisthing22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks right smack in the middle of 45 and not giving a fuck anymore.
monsterinacage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, as harsh as we the people tear into every president (deserved or otherwise), I would never want that job.
Apps4Life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TV definition got better xD
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These two pictures are the exact opposite of each other, from the expression, even the color of the ties these guys are wearing
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wow. it looks like he went from 30-something to 60-something in 8 years. yikes national responsibility, yikes.
tweeblethescientist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency...
Not even once.
gaffoff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
even his fingers look tired
PrivateCharter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Destroying the country takes a lot out of a guy.
1humanarmy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
presidency- not even once.
spacemanspiff30 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every two term president does. Seven years of working 20 hour days and going from crisis to crisis as de facto world leader while also dealing with Congress tends to do that. I know the president doesn't run the world, but at this time the US is top dog and that means you get a ton of crap to deal with from all over the world.
SwimminAss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All presidents age so god damn quickly it seems, except Reagan he sucked the youth and life out of the country
terrymr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's been in a tough spot. He's the first (half) black president so people kind of announced that racism was dead based on his election. At the same time he's been subjected to constant crap from the right, using every dogwhistle they've used against blacks for years but if he complains about it he will be the one accused of "playing the race card".
That and congress has achieved new heights of disfunctionality to the point that even essential government functions don't get carried out or do but at the last possible minute etc. Heck if they could cut off funding for white house electricity just to spite him they would.
tmtProdigy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not gonna argue that the position puts a lot of strain on ya' but don't forget that, also, in the past 8 years, he got 8 years older........
fuzzyluke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He certainly doesnt have as much makeup on the second pic compared to the first
chuckymcgee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now he's Ol'bama
Drunk_Juggernaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, he is 8 years older.
PrivilegeCheckmate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lack of sleep is what has aged him so. I had a kid and didn't sleep well for the first 18 months. Our entire nation is a bunch of fucking children so Obama has aged 8 years times 350 million crybabies.
Wizzer10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he looks so 54 years old
MonkeysOnMyBottom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So close I'll still upvote that Doctor Who reference.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't she look tired?
TrollingPanda-_- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, he was so enthusiastic at first because he thought he could give free everything, and then congress shut him down.
lecherous_hump ยท 2300 points ยท Posted at 13:49:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus. I forgot how young he was.
killhimalready ยท 3665 points ยท Posted at 15:03:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was only 30.
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[deleted] ยท 1510 points ยท Posted at 15:13:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:46:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:47:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:57:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are wrong and I am sad for you.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:22:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Season 2 of Danger 5 is by far the best second season to any show I have ever seen. Danger 5 is probably one of my favorite shows ever. The ending. Oh my god the ending. Nothing will ever come close to the feelings I got from watching Danger 5, and then again nothing will come close to the last 5 minutes of the last episode. I don't even know how to describe how I felt. That show was so fucking retarded, but easily is in my top 5 shows I have ever seen. Like the other guy said, you are plain wrong, that show is fucking amazing. I want my nachos italianos!
skiduzzlebutt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:47:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's really that good huh? The first episode really kicked me in the balls I guess. I hated that they replaced Pierre, and hated that Tucker and Claire got married. In the end if I don't like season 2 it'll be about 3 hours gone from my life lol
inept77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. I thought season 1 of Danger 5 was amazing. Lighting in a bottle there. Then S2 just fell really flat. The first one was very episodic and didn't take itself overly serious. The second had a definite overarching story that just didn't fit well with the show. Granted, there were some great moments. But overall, it left a lot to be desired.
SPACE_NATURE_WOMEN ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:57:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
clair!!!! notice me senpai !!!~~~
ewhite12 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:35:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A+ reference/GIF
heisenberg_97 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:53:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I forgot to renew my subscription!
hatillathenun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is fantastic in thr aspect that it only received my sensible chuckle as well
YouArentMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love danger 5, the show this is from.
BolognaTime ยท 701 points ยท Posted at 15:16:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the ol' reddit messi-ah-roo
emogu84 ยท 595 points ยท Posted at 15:24:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my soul, I'm going in
speqter ยท 144 points ยท Posted at 15:36:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you back yet? Your soul is heavy.
AyrA_ch ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 15:38:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can give it to me. I will... keep it safe.
keRyJ ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 15:56:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Truly yours,
-Satan
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
P.S. I lied. KThxBye.
Velorium_Camper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
3 days later
Nickwojo531 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:15:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found the Ginger
IMSmurf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:33:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Stan.
Verithos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice try Satan!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:57:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you save it...for me?๐ต
SmartAlec105 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because it's filled with DETERMINATION.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:19:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mom's spaghetti
I_Like_Spaghetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you hear about the Italian chef that died? He pasta way.
rg44_at_the_office ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He isn't coming back. They never do. That is the whole point, you never really have to hold whatever they ask you to hold. Just drop it on the ground, and don't go following them down that rabbit whole yourself.
Scrogger19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got to the toilet flatulence one and I lost it.
Pilly_Bilgrim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
21 grams is pretty light
USAuthority ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:53:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mom's spaghetti
quinoanoats ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:16:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit...I got a few clicks in and had to turn back. What is this madness. I'm scared. Somebody hold me.
MightyButtonMasher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am an adult.
Ohshitthatwasn'titI'lljustleavenownobodywillnoticeIthinkthis
johnnynumber5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Should have had some form of "take the wheel."
xintox2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get these blackhole thread links. I've followed them before and none of it was funny or even entertaining.
countblacula18 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:25:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my cross, I'm going in!
thebestdj ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:30:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my sins, I'm going in....
MysteriousBoob ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:32:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:11:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my golden balls, I'm going in!
FR4UDUL3NT ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:28:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my bible, I'm going in!
poignard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:37:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my Lionel, I'm goin in
Goscar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:24:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my Hallelujah. I'm going in.
socsa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:25:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my crucifix, I'm going in.
MontanaTrev ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my body of Christ, shed for you... im going in
Sporkerism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:30:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my stakes, I'm going in!
OBAMA_HAS_AIDES ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:33:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama is a muslim
smacisaac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:33:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my cross, I'm going in.
reykan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:33:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my apostles, I'm going in!
agmarkis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank the lord, a proper ol' reddit roo. I'm going in.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn that link never ends!
Gowzilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped at flusharoo..
martinko1337 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
holy fuck this is deep. loving it!
otakuman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you find all these switcharoo posts, anyyway? Is there a sub or something?
Treq-S ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:03:46 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
there is.. /r/switcharoo ...
Athen88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
K.
Jonadory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still going... fun times.
topaz-colite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my something, Geronimo!
XxEnigmaticxX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:45 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
can someone explain to me how this is accomplished?
IDCh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my Jesus, I'm praying in!
BryanBeast13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my bible. I'm crossing in.
MayorWestTheCat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:27:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Star Wars spoilers two links deep :/ Kinda sad that I read it.
Purple_Lurple ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:51:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well that's on you for opening a pic in r/starwars
thebodygibbiatti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And for not seeing it yet.
MayorWestTheCat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:37:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The links don't exactly state that.
It just said "Ah, the ol' Reddit Han-a-roo", so no.
Raff_Out_Loud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's been out for nearly a month. It's talked about in almost every corner of the intarwebs and has broken box office records.
Sorry but that's on you.
MayorWestTheCat ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:39 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, still not on me.
Raff_Out_Loud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:37 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree
MayorWestTheCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:10 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never!
Alexwastaken ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 16:29:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was actually 33 at the time this photo was taken.
revalph ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 15:10:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
33
im too broke to give gold. but god damn it. this was good.
FerretHydrocodone ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:18:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why did you say 33? And why does posting a painting of Jesus and stating his age deserve gold? Your comment is strange.
sofaraway731 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:22:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus was 33 when He died.
GCEian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bruce Lee too!!!
Rentington ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
We simply don't know how old Jesus was. Most believe he was executed in 33 AD. Herod the Great died in 4 BC, and most believe Jesus was 2 years old when Herod died. So, he could have been 40.
EDIT: source for those interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_Jesus
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:28:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Rentington ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:35:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, that may be the case. I do know that he would have to have been executed AT THE EARLIEST in 30 AD because of the political figures mentioned in the bible, and he would have to have been born during the reign of Herod the Great, which would be at the very latest 4 BC. Given the circumstances of the purging of the young boys, 6 BC is far more likely, and 33 AD virtually universally accepted as when the execution was likely to happen.
and yet... downvotes. Shit like this is why I hate Reddit sometimes. Go look it up. There's a huge wikipedia article on it.
Aldracity ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think people just like 33 because it lets you stick a bunch of 3's onto Jesus and then spin off a bunch of other mathe-spiritual stuff based on that.
Source: John Milton
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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N0gai ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:21:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Five dollars are like 2 days of food. For some people that's something.
JapanStan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:22:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But memes are free
Rihsatra ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's $4, put up or shut up.
janitorguy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:18:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
don't do this to me man
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:23:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And he doesn't look Middle Eastern at all. All that stress wiped the melatonin right out of him.
ghostinahumanshape ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:11:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
33 boss.
Gralekgejost ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:31:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RIP in peace
donkey_punch_kong64 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:53:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
33 actually.
churro89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:39:35 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sigh Get off reddit, dad.
BigIrishBalls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think someone needs to badly photoshop a picture of what jesus really looked like over his face.
the12ofSpades ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:41:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/Qy9N9uf.jpg
socalchillln ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why i Jesus always depicted as a white dude? Is that because the Romans were like we are taking over this shit?
ExtraCheesyPie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He died for your sin... I see no nails.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'd think by then he'd at least have a better tan.
TickleMeStalin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus only had to deal with Satan. Obama has to deal with Congress.
killhimalready ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Close enough.
EmergencyChocolate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think 33 though? He started his ministry at 30 (traditional rabbinical age) and preached for 3 years before he was crucified, I think. Sunday school was a long time ago for me, though.
GwynethPaltrowsHead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
33, actually. A lot of things seem to be, or have something to do with the numer 33. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33_(number)
J-Jazz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I was only 19...
q1o2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
33
combatrex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're allowed outside of /r/squaredcircle?
HAHAHA-Idiot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Crucified with the Middle-Eastern sun directly focused on Him while everything else is in the shade of the clouds.
Must have really pissed off someone.
USAuthority ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
rest in peace
theshalomput ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
awesome
icepickjones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
33
I'm in my jesus year right now.
hellogovna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
33
lordeddardstark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't Jesus 33 when he died?
samathor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe he was 36....just saying
apple____ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:56 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
33
lecherous_hump ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:26:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IC watu didthere
TyeWin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:44:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant usern.... Oops, too soon?
mocatsmocrazy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:02:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, Jesus was supposedly 33 when he died. The Bible says that he began a 3-year ministry at age 30.
Source: A quick google search. C'mon. Edit: Grammerz.
I_WILL_ENTER_YOU ยท 234 points ยท Posted at 15:12:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's 20 years younger at the end of an 8 year term then Bernie Sanders would be at the end of his first term
n00bface ยท 252 points ยท Posted at 15:29:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie Sanders would be the oldest president inaugurated. Another cool fact: Bill Clinton was younger than Barack Obama when he took office. I hadn't realized until looking it up today.
PaplooTheEwok ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 16:12:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, TIL. Bill Clinton was 46 years, 154 days old while Barack Obama was 47 years, 169 days oldโjust over a year older. Also, TIL Teddy Roosevelt was the youngest president at 42 years, 322 days old at inaugurationโabout 8 months younger than JFK (however, JFK was the youngest elected president). Lots of neat facts on the Wikipedia page.
lightmonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:12:56 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also Richard Nixon was only 48 when he narrowly lost to Kennedy after 8 years as VP.
PaplooTheEwok ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:13:13 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This set some gears turning in my head. I feel bad for not remembering this from my high school civics class, but until the 12th Amendment was ratified (a brief 16 years after the ratification of the Constitution), it looks like there was a sort of "Air Bud" loophole regarding the VP. Or, at any rate, that's how it seems to me (someone with zero legal education beyond said high school civics class).
There are eligibility requirements laid out for Representatives, Senators, and Presidents, but nothing for Vice Presidents. The Twelfth Amendment includes the clause, "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." Without that, well, couldn't they have elected a dog to the VP position, since "ain't no rule says a dog can't
play basketball.be Vice President"? And imagine if the President he served with was assassinated!Now, surely, a dog President would fall under the "inability" part of the succession clause. However, to stretch this even further, the Constitution only provides that the VP shall succeed the President, and leaves the rest up to further legislation:
The first Presidential Succession Act was passed in 1792. In an alternate universe where George Washington's VP was a dog rather than John Adams, that would have left three years where, if Washington had been assassinated or otherwise suddenly and unexpectedly incapacitated, there would have been a brief period where a dog would have been president while the legislature scrambled to write emergency legislation to rectify the matter. I'd like to be a fly on the wall for that discussion.
...I may have gotten a little too serious about this dog-VP thing. Regardless, thank you for giving me the inspiration.
LightsSoundAction ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:13:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow really? I think Bill was is perceived as old because his natural hair color is already grey.
speedisavirus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:13:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And likely die in office leaving us with whoever was next down the line.
poly_atheist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:59:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People are gunning for that VP spot.
Dan23023 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:59:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That would likely be Elizabeth Warren, which would be pretty awesome.
speedisavirus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:04 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And all but certify he wouldn't get elected
onan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Warren's fanbase has 100% overlap with Sanders' fanbase. The usual purpose of a VP candidate is to win over additional people who weren't already committed to voting for the presidential candidate.
yen223 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:20:08 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie-Trump 2016 confirmed.
whats_not_in_a_name ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fingers crossed
onan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most likely not. Life expectancy for presidents is far beyond the 82 that Sanders would be after even a second term.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:34:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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whitepalms85 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:11:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Crazy, I was pretty sure that Clinton was older. I think the white hair make a big difference.
Lolworth ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:47:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The white stuff only came on when... well, you know
ThunderousLeaf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:17:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is he older than mccain would have been?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:30:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure, yeah.
adescuentechable ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:17:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
About 2 years older.
Darkersun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And he's the junior senator from Vermont...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:45 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bill Clinton also holds the record for most blowjobs in the Oval Office. Allegedly.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 15:08:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And he still is. I think he'll be actively working for 15 more years.
whydoesmybutthurt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you misspelled vacationing
WifehasDID ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was 46... he is now 54... shit happens to you during those years no matter what your job is
demencia89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah save that for the judge.
screenfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah i forgot about that too
rarely-sarcastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well he was 47 when he became president. Didn't look a day over 30 though.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:50:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was only 46 years old!
SkidMark_wahlberg ยท 5230 points ยท Posted at 14:10:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He will continue to age at an accelerated rate even after his presidency, because both of his daughters are teenagers now.
wuzizname ยท 3269 points ยท Posted at 15:02:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a saying that if you have a teenaged boy you only need to worry about his one dick, if you have a teenaged girl you need to worry about everyone's dick.
SyndromeOfTheDown ยท 709 points ยท Posted at 15:48:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea but, if you have a daughter, you only have to worry about her getting pregnant. If you have a son, you have to worry about dozens of girls potentially being pregnant.
[deleted] ยท 1639 points ยท Posted at 17:35:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha my parents sure didn't have to worry about that
Leanador ยท 184 points ยท Posted at 17:53:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:(
Pastor_0f_Muppets ยท 237 points ยท Posted at 17:59:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry brah. We'll become wizards soon.
Leanador ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 18:09:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:D
Commandophile ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:33:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
hollander93 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:08:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
<(:D>>>>>>>>
Need to grow that beard out more. Get the thick wizardy goodness of it
mistercath ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:17:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sweet username, brah!
DonInKansas ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:24:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pastor...Pastor...pastor of Muppets is pulling your strings...
Pastor_0f_Muppets ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:09:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks brah :)
Carcaju ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Paster of muppets I'm pulling your strings!
Dr_GigglyShits ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:03:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a super sweet username yo
Pastor_0f_Muppets ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why thank you :)
Tal9922 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
7 more years! That's a magic number, right?
watertaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not how this works......
edgykitty ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:22:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's because his penis got cut off in a freak accident, not because he didn't get all of the girls.
Nicklovn ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:57:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure of gay or forever alone.
dexpid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:16:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Might be both :(
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:39 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Might be reptilian.
BelieveInThePeeko ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:03:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
because you were busy smashing dragons
aakksshhaayy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:59:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
grinding lesser demons instead of chicks :/
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can call me St. George, cuz I'm smashing dragons back to the dark ages
mutejute ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:06:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha hahaha. Hahahahahahahhaha. Hahaha.
Oh god, I'm so alone
brizzenden ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:58:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because you never told them about any of your illegitimate children?
Scizmz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:58:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't matter, didn't have sex.
slyfox_123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit just got real...
avsfan1933 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:24:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd give you gold but I'm poor.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like someone did it anyway, the absolute madman
DetectiveBeluga ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha
AsAGayGuy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha mine either.
PossiblyAsian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/me_irl
DietSnapple135 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/me_irl
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How can this be me Irl? There aren't even any fish memes?
USAuthority ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
reddit in a single comment
AshTheGoblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol
wuzizname ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:49:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess there's no winning anyway, no upside to having a bloody teen in the house that you're responsible for.
some_recursive_virus ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:15:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but if you have a son then you don't have to worry about him being a slut, since we glorify men for casual sex while we shame women for the same. Come on, that's 50% of what this penis worrying is really about: slut shaming.
dorekk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what literally all of the penis-worrying is about.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:35:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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JEesSs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Regardless of how promiscuous you are, its not like you have a fucking ocean of good looking men just waiting in line to bang you. Unless you're willing to sleep with anyone, you'd need some pretty good looks and charm to pull it off as a woman too you know.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:37:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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JEesSs ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:45:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But that's the thing, at least 95% of those are unwanted. Getting laid with people you are actually attracted to is a completely different story.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:57:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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FlashCrashBash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to think there's a lot of really creepy guys with more brains than confidence that makes up a majority of the unwanted attention.
JEesSs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:34:27 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whilst that could be true to some extent, I agree more with u/FlashCrashBash on this one. Most of the people that approach you tend to be the ones who are just being really creepy, plain rude/misogynistic/sexually harassing, or just very inappropriate. Quite few are actually respectful and decent people (who can also accept a no if you're not interested). Also, since decent people don't really tend to approach you randomly and start hitting on you, they unfortunately get heavily outnumbered by the narcissistic jerks.
So, to find decent people as a woman, you kind of have use the same approach as men: go search for people and try to approach them in a nice/non-creepy way. This can be hard for women too regardless of what men believe. Also, remember that most women aren't plain gorgeous, and its not like any guy would want them just because they are a woman.
SocraticMethHead ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad I'm not only attracted to the 95th percentile. That sounds awful.
Madhouse4568 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:37:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except you most likely are.
SocraticMethHead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of the people around my age and location not really.
JEesSs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:40 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
95 percent of people around you is not the same as the 95 percent of people hitting on you via tinder (or hitting on you in any way really). But that's pretty obvious though isn't it?
iambeingserious ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:09:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Well you cant have it thaaaaaaat easy you know ;)
iambeingserious ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
... and Im being downvoted. Okay heres a fucking ocean of good looking men waiting for you (โฏยฐโกยฐ๏ผโฏ
Happy now?
some_recursive_virus ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's easy to be a person who doesn't murder anyone; it's hard to be a serial killer.
What's your point?
Left4pillz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:24:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Handgun, bullets, shoot multiple people, serial killer, done. That's a horrible comparison, actually getting women to want to be with you is a hard task to accomplish that requires lots of skills and qualities, whereas being a fucked up killer requires very little skill and no qualities.
FloaterFloater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being a successful serial killer does require skill though
Left4pillz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:29:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being a successful serial killer is easy, but being a successful serial killer that doesn't get caught would require skill.
FloaterFloater ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:46:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the not getting caught part was implied by successful
Left4pillz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That depends on what you think successful means. To me, if somebody kills a whole bunch of people, then they're a successful serial killer as they've completed the "task" of killing a whole bunch of people without being caught up to that point, even if they're caught after.
iambeingserious ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:04:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how does a serial killer relate to a stud...
some_recursive_virus ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:11:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pointing out the flaw behind the logic of "the difficult thing" = "the commendable thing" and "the easy thing" = "the shameful thing"
iambeingserious ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:14:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wrong analogy. A serial killer takes by force, a stud is good a getting something given to him. Like a successful charity. Kinda.
some_recursive_virus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But less like a successful charity, because every time a stud gets given sex, the person giving the sex (the slut) is devalued--not commended for her donation.
So it's more like a successful con artist because the "giver" is left worse off by the interaction. But the same type of analogy applies to contradict the logic: it's easy to succeed as an honest worker; it's hard to succeed as a con artist.
iambeingserious ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:29:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldnt say the slut feels devalued, i dont think the slut cares. If the slut cared then the slut would stop acting like a slut.. or get a boyfriend :P
some_recursive_virus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:44:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's irrelevant whether the slut FEELS devalued. By the logic that's behind this entire discussion, the slut IS devalued.
But nit picking at this analogy is getting away from the original point, which is that glorifying men for having casual sex, while shaming the women who do the same, is a misogynistic choice that people make.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:53:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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some_recursive_virus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:12 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Casual sex for women indicates poor decision making just because getting sex is easier for women than it is for men? That doesn't make sense. By that logic, getting a job in the child care field indicates poor decision making for women too, because society has made it easier for women to get those jobs.
throwaway12345444 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:14:54 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't agree with that but even if I did, so what? Is it the woman's fault that men are easy? Why would we slut shame women who have sex just because "it's not hard?"
That's like looking down on someone for eating ice cream because it's not that hard to get ice cream in America.
Come on. The real reason guys slut shame is because they're insecure that they're not the ones having sex. It takes two to tango, so obviously guys are getting laid somewhere, people just get upset when it's not them.
DiceboyT ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:54:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, that's 100% what it's about and it's pretty hilarious watching redditors try to justify this sexist nonsense with cries of "but preventing teen pregnancy!!!".
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:13:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really trying to shoehorn that asshole agenda in there aren't you?
SocraticMethHead ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:41:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, pretty sure the other side brought it up.
null_work ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:14:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL that men and women have the same experience when having children.
garglespit ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:59:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No it isn't. Unwanted pregnancies are resource drains that affect everyone else in the family. It's not slut shaming, it's 'You are unable to provide for a child on your own, you are not permitted to affect everyone else in your family with the creation of a new member until you are responsible enough to provide for any potential offspring you decide to have.'
Women get pregnant, men don't. Women are responsible for bearing that burden because it's their body, and if they're to be free and autonomous in the burden of that body, they have to own the responsibility themselves. It's hand in hand with the right to choose.
tree_dick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If my daughter chooses not to get an abortion it's her own burden.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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FloaterFloater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:36:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol broken people? Seriously? Sounds like you're insecure about something...
Simply wanting to experience new people and have fun doesn't make you broken.. not everyone wants a full-time relationship or has even found the person they feel is right for them. Some people just got out of a long-term relationship and just want to have a few drinks and get laid every now and then. So simply because they choose to spend their time differently than you makes them 'broken'? You sound like a television evangelist.
Manos_Of_Fate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're just picking the worst examples you can think of to falsely illustrate how bad casual sex is. Casual sex isn't really the problem here, poor life decisions and unhealthy relationships are. Plenty of people enjoy and have casual sex without either of those problems, and even more have those problems without it having anything to do with sex.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:55 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Manos_Of_Fate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:05 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife and I are polyamorous, so that conversation wouldn't be weird for us. For the more average couple, why even have that discussion in the first place if it makes you (or them) uncomfortable? Why is that an argument not to do something that makes you happy?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:46 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doing cocaine makes me happy also. That doesn't mean I'm going to advocate it.
Of course the guy advocating being promiscuous is an actual cuck. Lol
omarciddo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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_littlebones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even a post about the president aging becomes a post about dicks and sex. One track minds, the lot of ya.
myheartisstillracing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A female friend in high school told her father she was dating another girl. Her father sighed and said, "Well, at least you won't come home pregnant."
XHF1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:58:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's still only his dick that you have to be worried about.
average_user_421 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:39:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife said the same thing about our kids. I thought she was being a little optimistic about the boy.
LetMeGetThisStr8 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:55:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately is easier to get your son to wrap it up, then your daughter to ensure her partner does the same. Unless she take matters into her own hands with female contraceptives.
More things can go wrong one way then the other unfortunately.
Zeliek ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:10:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was a reality for my cousin's son. 3 different girls in the span of a year. That was about 5 or 6 years ago, he's 23 now. We don't talk to that side of the family often, we only saw him and the state of his life 5 or 6 years ago due to a wedding... in which he proposed to his most recent pregnant girlfriend at (tip: don't propose at someone's wedding/they never made it to alter). I think he was 18. He also got really high on something at some point and was dancing alone in the middle of the wedding hall like someone trying to kill a lot of bugs. The whole thing was just... really cringe-inducing.
And no, neither he nor the girls were even remotely attractive. Just white trash.
Thatzionoverthere ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:23:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Um.... i don't think most kids grow up to be casanova so no worries.
leeringHobbit ยท 1459 points ยท Posted at 15:10:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That assumes your son isn't gay...
illaqueable ยท 3492 points ยท Posted at 15:13:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your gay son will never get pregnant
JMaboard ยท 2695 points ยท Posted at 15:19:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not with that attitude.
foolsgold64 ยท 535 points ยท Posted at 15:31:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
butt-babies
ButtDoctor ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 15:58:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...that's not how that works.
GeminiK ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 16:02:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not with that attitude.
Chillaxbro ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:12:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
throat-babies
GeminiK ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:25:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hot
RuinedFaith ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:32:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...that's not how that works.
MightyButtonMasher ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:42:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not with that attitude.
Fapplet ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hot-babies
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:20:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out.
Sonofraiden ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:10:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not how any of this works!
nakedjay ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:47:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It worked for Tenacious D
Spartan_Blazer ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:31:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you think black people are made?
pooponagoose ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:40:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Butt Buddies!"
http://southpark.cc.com/clips/155043/butt-buddies
Drews232 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:20:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instead of facebooking sonograms the dad posts colonoscopy photos
BrosephHaydn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:14:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coming to a theatre near you this fall.
leelu_dallas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seems you missed this little gem... The Immaculate Conception of Little Dizzle
TheSchnozzberry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:51:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He'll never take care of them. Probably just flush them down the toilet without even giving them a name.
sheplax10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's fun to say.
Jelmddddddddddddd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to use that term out of context so much.
Side note: HOW THE HELL DID THE TOPIC GO FROM OBAMA TO "BUTT-BABIES"
emkill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had to search :(
eyemadeanaccount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How layers are made. Wait, wasn't Obama a lawyer?
TheAquaman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like an Adam Sandler film.
iamhappylight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was already an Arnold Schwarzenegger film.
niceanddtoastyplease ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They prefer African American
suckbothmydicks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know there is a racist joke here ...
TheGriefers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AIDS
rowd149 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:47:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Related (and furry but just bear with me).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
D:
Trawgg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also relevant.
Urist_was_taken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:50:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God knows I tried
crazycanine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless he double checks his sexuality first irresponsibly.
nesai11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But he sure will try!
TheNaug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep inseminating your husband and pray to God.
galaxy_X ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's Amer-I-Can. Not Amer-I-Can't..
0urlasthope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HAHAHAAHAHA GOOD ONE.
Momochichi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:45:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Yes we can!"
LEEVINNNN ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:29:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Right? I'm tired of all this sexism, WHAT IF US GUYS WANT TO GET PREGNANT TOO YOU SHIT LORDS?!
Edit: It was a joke.
wuzizname ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I chortled coffee up my nose because of you!
CatButtForYou ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 15:25:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only straight sons get pregnant.
giraffeman91 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:33:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let me teach you about STDs and why gay men get them more often....
-_God_- ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:25:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-- but could get an STD, as could any child. It is nice that if you have gay children whether male or female that you don't have to worry about unexpected pregnancy.
Also, birth control and condoms saves the day for the rest of them. Educate your children, folks.
JEesSs ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:18:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, God.
PhiladelphiaIrish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like those intructions got lost somewhere in the chain of command.
JDuCalisson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:23:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You still need to tell him about the dangers of anal prolapse.
Sack_o_Bawlz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:54:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neither would your straight one.
dewhashish ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:21:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not with that attitude
cantdressherself ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:51:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With god, anything is possible!
silversherry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not what fanfiction taught me.
Jenga_Police ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the other thing Obama put Biden in charge of besides curing cancer.
LNMagic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep trying, son. Don't let us down!
hippyengineer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God knows he tries though! ๐
Penguin_Out_Of_A_Zoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And won't get anyone else pregnant.
shitishouldntsay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed, let him enjoy as many ducks as he wants.
TundieRice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless your straight daughter gets a sex change and becomes your gay son but still can get pregnant.
open_faced_sandwich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We're never gonna stop trying!
asshair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but HIV/AIDS is kinda like being pregnant.
sweatymcnuggets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A dick doesn't have to impregnate my daughter to get under my nerves. Could even be a nice dick with a good head on it's shaft, but if it gets within four feet of my girl, I'm stressed.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then what's the point of being gay?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for crushing my dreams. /s
sorry_I_said_that ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AIDS? Is that something a parent should be concerned with? Nah.
Flufflebuns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obligatory Dan Savage classic moment: https://youtu.be/7X01i6hyvic?t=157
SmellYaLater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:28 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty fair bet with the bum botherers.
Chrisfromthefuture ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not like there's worse diseases you can get from sex...
Jawnson ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:43:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's up there.
dropknot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Std's bruh
bourbondog ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:22:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just AIDS
Teller8 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:45:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really funny.
EonesDespero ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your gay son may still get AIDs if he doesn't practice save sex.
Pregnancy is like a blessing in comparison to get HIV. You can abort, but there is no cure for the last one.
InterestingPersonX ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:39:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"MY TEACHER TOLD ME I COULD BE ANYTHING I WANT TO BE, DAD!" -gay son
cattaclysmic ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't you oppress him!
MessyRoom ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 15:14:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gay guys don't get pregnant bro
xxmindtrickxx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:14:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
STDs are still real though
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:47:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not with that attitude, bro.
BreakYourselfFool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only the heterosexual ones.
WaitWhatting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Homognant
jonathanc3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only heterosexuals do
DrKnowsNothing_MD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know? ;)
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can do anything if you try hard and believe in yourself.
CreepTheNet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AIDS
meh.
Ragingblur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neither do straight guys.
heterosapian ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:06:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Calling them son assumes you recognize them as your child and care about their wellbeing if they happen to be gay เฒ _เฒ
Bwazo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:21:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If he is gay it's n+1
PS4play ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:16:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. For the purpose of your short joke, please expand it to include mass appeal to all genders, sexual identities, and whatever else can possibly be included.
Fox_Lee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a self identified tractor-kin, I feel attacked by my gender/identity not being included in the joke
Docfeelbad ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:44:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If my son's gay he's going to be a top.
Steinberg1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That assumes you spend that much time thinking about teenage dick
wuzizname ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no... didn't even think of that!
NazzerDawk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's okay, I think boys can't get pregnant.
Maybe. I'm not entirely sure how that whole process works yet. And I've got a daughter.
wuzizname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but they can get other people pregnant! Last thing anyone wants is their son becoming a dad at 14.
NazzerDawk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But /u/leeringhobbit was talking about if your son is gay.
wuzizname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only straight boys can get pregnant.
Bad_Sex_Advice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or your daughter's dad isn't the most powerful man in the country
ThinkInAbstract ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Git your ellipses the fuck out of here.
scamlikenewton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, so that's like all dicks + 1.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still doesn't matter
Timbiat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's one more dick to worry about than either of the scenarios provided!
80Eight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Statistically there is only like a 2% of that.
There is a 100% chance that someone wants to have sex with your daughter.
throwaway_holla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:08 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A gay son means EVERYone with a dick is after him? Even straight guys?
leeringHobbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:29 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never underestimate a Dad's capacity to worry about his kids!
Auszi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the dream, then you don't have to worry about any dick but your own.
Fenris_uy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:21:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If he is gay, you don't have to worry about any dick.
Marka_Lagmost ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:49:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most people aren't gay. In fact I think it's a very small percentage of people that legitimately identify as homosexual/bisexual.
LiiDo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:19:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still don't have to worry about every dick only like 5% of dicks
JulieAndrews ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:26:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or better yet your daughter, in which case you worry about none.
_dime_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:32:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or your daughter, a lesbian. Then you don't have to worry about any dicks besides rapists. I know my dad was relieved.
shitterplug ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:30:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not about fucking guys, it's about knowing what you were doing at that age, which was trying to plow every girl you met. Presumably, you're not gay, so you don't really connect with the idea of your son getting spit-roasted. There's also the whole pregnancy thing.
logitewty ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:31:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't want to be thinking about any teenager's dicks...
knobalt2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:59:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You wouldn't be thinking about teenage dicks. You'd be thinking about teenage dicks penetrating your teenage daughter. It's much less creepy that way.
logitewty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd rather be thinking about my dick penetrating my teenage daughter... too far?
most_low ยท 385 points ยท Posted at 15:19:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or you could just get her some birth control pills and convince her that it's important to use condoms. Then you hardly have to worry at all.
N9ne25 ยท 191 points ยท Posted at 15:53:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Some parents will never understand... Kids will have sex regardless of what you want, so why not just teach them to be safe? My parents were extremely strict to my older brother and sister with relationships, and guess what? They had babies at a very young age.
If only they taught them the importance of safe sex instead of telling them "SEX IS BAD, YOU WILL GET PREGNANT AND FUCK UP YOUR LIFE," then maybe they wouldn't have actually have gotten fucking pregnant.
/rant
awry_lynx ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 17:04:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just introduce them to epic fantasy and computer games, make sure they have no saving social graces and extreme anxiety. Always a charm.
nerf_herder1986 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:33:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you want your only grandchildren to be cats, sure.
ValkyrX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:04:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just get the kids hooked on magic the gathering.
JonSnoballs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my daughter's been on a strict diet of cookie dough, twizzlers, and and pineapple fanta since she was born...
StickyNiki ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:01:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Mom didn't want me to make her mistakes, got me birth control at age 14. I'm the only girl I know that never had an unwanted pregnancy.
monizizz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:54:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This! Back when I was in high school I had a friend with a very strict mom who kept her on a tight leash. Like wouldn't let her take the bus places but wouldn't drive her either, curfew was 5 pm, etc. My friend had a boyfriend and they were together most of high school so yes they were obviously having sex. She went and got herself birth control pills and condoms and kept it a secret from her mom. One day her mom went through her purse and found her birth control pills and fucking took them away as punishment and reamed her out for having sex. I still can't believe she did this. Even at the time, as a 16 year old girl I was able to recognize her mother as an idiot woman. Yes my friend did get pregnant a year or so later and yes she did abort it alllllll without her mother knowing. I wish her mother did know because maybe it would have made her realize her daughter was trying to be smart and protect herself whether she was abiding by her mothers rules or not. Ugh bothers me to this day and I have no contact with that family anymore.
spizzat2 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 16:23:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're not wrong about the appropriate sex talk, but it looks like your parents were right.
N9ne25 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:26:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, they were, but only because they never taught them about safe sex. Think about it: kids are going to have sex regardless. But if they actually give them birth control and condoms, they wouldn't of gotten pregnant. They were also taken out of sex ed classes because " they wanted to tell them about it the right way" aka awkward talk where nothing gets said. It's a lot more complicated than what I'm saying, but that's the jist of it.
Edit: they basically said(and still do) that having sex before marriage is horrible and a huge no no.
JEesSs ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:27:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. My mum approached me when I was like 16 and said I should probably go on the pill. She said that even if I'm not having sex now (although I was), I probably will soon, and its better to be prepared. Looking back at that I realise what an amazing thing that was of her to do, since I'd probably never asked for it myself otherwise.
However, I think its not just the parents' responsibility, but the schools as well. Where I'm from they provide you with condoms (and tampons/pads too!) from upper secondary school, and during gymnasium (i.e. A-levels) you can even do pregnancy and chlamydia tests during lunch break if you want to. Its just one of those things I always took for granted, but now realise how incredibly useful it was for us. Especially if you've got a tricky situation with your parents.
bluebombed ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:34:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where is that?
JEesSs ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:36:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sweden
Rollesly ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:52:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course it is. Every time I see a comment about how great the education system is it can't be America
NastyBooty ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/XfcQzB2.gif
watertaco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:08:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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dorekk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:21:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was a stupid, self-fulfilling prophecy. If they had told their kids about condoms, guess what? MAYBE THE KIDS WOULD HAVE USED 'EM.
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was a stupid, self-fulfilling prophecy. If they had told their kids about condoms, guess what? MAYBE THE KIDS WOULD HAVE USED 'EM.
rreighe2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:20:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Had to tell my younger brother about condemns and safe sex because my mom is... The type who would say don't have sex till marriage sex bla bla bla - (not that that's bad) but if you're gonna encourage your kids to not have sex that's cool, just still teach them how to be careful about it.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Condemns" lol
rreighe2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oops
loi044 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:39:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sigh... I wish.
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wimpymist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:42:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sooooo how's it going
squirtingispeeing ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:27:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
god bless you.
carlson71 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:45:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My parents are conservative and I grew up Methodist. I was told from 7th grade on to wrap it, by my parents and our pastor at confirmation talked about safe sex many times. Shit any sex I had without a condom is because it was awesome, not because I didn't know condom importance. O an 27 year old man whore, cuz sex is great.
dizitalmeow ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
funny how you felt obligated to include 'man' in your whore statement so that you can humblebrag
carlson71 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
O you caught me. It wasn't so I could just make it clear what sex I was (while playing with the whore label like the comment above me). If it makes you feel better I can edit it and remove man. Or just say in the start this statement is made by a man it might offend.
flakemasterflake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Did no teacher in school mention condoms? I've always thought them to be self explanatory.
N9ne25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well they went to the same school I ended up going to, and with me, they always needed permission slips for any sort of sex ed, and my parents didn't sign them up. I don't know if my siblings knew about condoms or not, but regardless, they wouldn't of been able to get them since they started working after high school and had basically no money
wimpymist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to my teenage self. No sex for me :(
rolodexpropagandist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Word. But it's would've or would have. Not would of.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not both?
jmcdon00 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or maybe your older brother and sister are fuck ups and it's not your parents fault.
eukomos ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:16:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These days you can get her an IUD and have her effectively baby proofed for a good five years. Very anxiety reducing!
esoteric_enigma ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 16:02:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're a perverted weirdo who's obsessed with his daughter's chastity, like many dads seem to be.
-Badger2- ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:53:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
le vanguard of my daughter's virginity
UnholyDemigod ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:59:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why does Reddit seem to think this is the reason behind the stereotype, as if dads want their daughter isn't worth anything after losing her virginity? It's because teenage boys really wanna get their cocks wet, so a lot will do whatever it takes. Dad just doesn't wanna see his daughter get hurt from some cunt who lies to her and fucks off as soon as he gets what he wants
esoteric_enigma ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:03:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We think it because dads feel exactly the opposite about their sons. Dads want their sons to get their dicks wet (without getting a girl pregnant) while wanting to protect their daughters from getting their vaginas pounded. Dads want to hear about their sons partying in college and getting girls. How many want to hear the same from their daughters?
UnholyDemigod ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because experience has us convinced that nothing on this planet can possibly want sex as much as a human make teenager
esoteric_enigma ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:16:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yet you are still fine with your human male teenagers having sex. There is no explanation for the fact you don't feel the same way about your daughters other than an inordinate fixation on their sexuality and chastity.
UnholyDemigod ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:00:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just said we are convinced that nothing wants sex as much as teenage boys. So we think getting railed by every fella in the vicinity is not something we see girls wanting, but fucking every living thing in sight is something we know for a fact boys want. Why would we want something for someone we think they don't want?
esoteric_enigma ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:10:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, you don't think they want it. You don't know your daughter's mind or desires and most dads don't try to. If she says, "Ew, I'm tired of being hit on by these guys, Dad" and you step in to stop it as a protector, cool. That's not what happens. Even a boy she does want to have sex with will get the same treatment because you don't want your daughter even having consensual pleasurable safe sex. Dads obsessively try to repel all males from their daughters because they don't want them having sex with anybody. That's creepy.
KornymthaFR ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:57:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear, gave aids to your daughter.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 15:50:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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most_low ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:51:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No but it makes them not worrisome.
BklynMoonshiner ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 15:54:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the joke is in that as owners of penises, we generally understand their true nature and therefore are worried about them all.
conquer69 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:24:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a penis owner, you should prepare your daughters to choose the most responsible and sensible penis instead of treating all penises as taboo and "bad".
carlson71 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:47:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell her to finded her Goldilock cock.
BklynMoonshiner ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I completely agree, which is why I said "the joke"
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cphoebney ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:06:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As usual, never anything to say about the men who ride it.
agxryt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:12:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if your son is a "player"? Would you apply those same standards to him?
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agxryt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:48:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, you give your son a value pack, and tell your daughter not to be the town bicycle?
Condoms prevent STIs. And you just said Condoms don't prevent girls from being town-bicycles. Don't backpedal and pretend your slut shaming is because you want everyone to have safe sex.
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agxryt ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:08:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The anti-PC movement is essentially a bunch of white people complaining that they can't be assholes to every other subgroup nowadays. So don't even bring up that garbage meme.
Your hetero-couple statement makes no sense. A tip for the soon-to-be (if Im translating your stuff right) parent: your wife will teach your daughter about sex and how men are assholes, and to always protect herself. You'll teach her that men are assholes.
Your daughter is going to grow up the way she wants. The only thing you can change is if she hates you or not.
as towards the pedo thing: don't be such a sore loser. Just because you're an idiot doesn't mean you have to paint other people as pedophiles.
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agxryt ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:19:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not going to argue nature vs. nuture with you unless you do some reading first.
The rest of your shit is very angry extrapolation. Who exactly do you have a grudge against? Was your mother a crackwhore, and your sister one too, and now you're all upset about it?
Or are you some moral paragon? There's plenty of churches you can go join, do some slut-shaming, science-bashing, and child-molesting (and then guilting them for liking it! Damn bicycles)
Edit: You're still a misogynist
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agxryt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:38:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These actually are all going away. Literally all of them. Women are now allowed to enjoy sex, and join the miliary. Skinny men are no longer treated as inferior. Men are allowed to show emotion, women are still allowed to show emotion. ETC. ETC.
All of these things were the byproduct of an uneducated society of the past. It made sense then, because reproductive evolution. Nowadays, not so much. All of these things are changing, except in those people (IE you) who resist it. You're trying to blame your previous slut-shaming (the town bicycle comment) on society now, as if society now is slut-shaming and you're just trying to take advantage of it. That's bullshit. You're clearly the one who's opposing modern society, not taking advantage of it. Again, stop backpedaling, and stop trying to use memes to win an argument.
Admit that you have double standards, and want women to have no reproductive rights, and that this is all probably because you got swept up in the anti-PC ideology like a brown kid throwing a bomb.
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agxryt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:34:00 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You really sound like one of those red-pill neckbeard can't get laid vengeful types
JEesSs ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:41:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, lets just never break out of bad habits, ever.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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JEesSs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:40:10 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, lets just never do anything for the good of all of our society, unless it directly benefits me immediately.
TryUsingScience ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:47:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd argue that our current laws and technology have in some ways reversed the burden of the risks of accidental pregnancy.
If your daughter gets pregnant, she can decide to have an abortion or give the kid up for adoption. (Not that either of those things are easy decisions or fun processes.)
If your son gets a girl pregnant, the decision about what's going to happen for the next 18 years of his life is completely out of his hands.
Remember, if you have a daughter, you only have to worry about one uterus. If you have a son, you have to worry about every uterus.
ZombieL ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:00:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Solid sex shaming
xXsm0k3w33dXx ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 16:01:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being a slut isn't a good thing
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:05:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that a fact? Says who?
some_recursive_virus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:12:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Says a person who doesn't want women to have the same freedoms that men enjoy. In this case, it's the freedom to enjoy casual sex without being devalued for it.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:30:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even if you personally hold the ideological high ground doesn't change anything for the people who have to live their lives around those who do not.
some_recursive_virus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:43:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, I have no idea what you're getting at. All I was doing was describing the type of person who thinks women having casual sex is a bad thing.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:32:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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some_recursive_virus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:51 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But why do those social implications exist? Your logic is circular.
xXsm0k3w33dXx ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:09:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Society. There's nothing good or respectable about being a slut. Guys like them for sex but that's all they're seen as. Nobody takes sluts seriously.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:17:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
And what about men who sleep around? Why don't people in society devalue them? Have you ever considered that women enjoy sex just as much, if not more than men do?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:36:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just something to keep in mind, you're arguing with xXsmok3w33dXx.
carlson71 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:49:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get called a man whore all the time and told I'm never going to find a woman to settle down with and be happy because I am an emotionless ass hole who only thinks with his cock. Not true but gets said alot. Isn't that male slut shaming? Or am I supposed to just accept that as fact because it's what some narrow mined retards want to say.
philip2110 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shh you ain't a woman. Get away with your privilege
carlson71 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha I like how offend this whole comment chain has made people.
carlson71 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:00:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry, should I like Bruce Jenner it?
xXsm0k3w33dXx ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:04:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't create the double standards, I'm just the messenger.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:49:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like you have bought right into them as well.
agxryt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:08:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if you're a girl, no. If you're a guy, you're a boss. Right?
Having archaic double standards isn't a good thing.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 16:33:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't matter if you don't shlut shame, because people are going to do it for you, and you shouldn't want that for your children.
agxryt ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:44:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"people are going to do it for you"
people like you, who make other people's sexual lives their business?
"you shouldn't want that for your children"
you mean, you shouldn't want that for YOU? It'd bring shame on the family?
No one's going to slut shame your daughter but you.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:44:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why you are accusing me of anything, I don't really give a shit how much sex a girl has or with who. I am concerned about the wellbeing of peoples kids. The world doesn't live by the ideals that you are espousing. Girls and boys at school will slut shame, so will neighbors, and families. If you live in a small town people who don't know them directly will as well.
It would be nice if people didn't treat womens sexuality in a negative way, but that's the way the world is.
agxryt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:48:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes you do. You said very clearly earlier you do.
Well aren't you a saint
Yes, and they're kids. You're (hopefully) an adult, and you should know better. Kids in school also throw rocks at each other.
You literally said you'd give your son a box of condoms and tell your daughter not to be the town bicycle. You are those people. Stop trying to play innocent bystander.
If you run around in a circle really really fast, then you actually can go back in time to the 1900s. Give it a go.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:58:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You might want to work on your reading comprehension. I never said any of those things.
Although even if I did, it wouldn't matter. There is a huge difference between how we think the world should be and how it is. The reality is we as a society are nowhere near the acceptance level of female sexuality that you are describing.
So what would you like for your daughter, her formative years of discovering her sexuality being a martyr, living in shame and ridicule? Or cautioning her that while you think that there is nothing wrong with it the world doesn't see it that way, and that her actions have consequences, whether they deserve them or not?
I'm personally a realist, and for my kids wouldn't want to send them into the world ill prepared for the reality.
cphoebney ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:08:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually amazing. Having sex is awesome.
ZombieL ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:08:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being sexually liberated is. Teach kids to be safe and wary about emotional attachments, but other than that let them explore. Stop treating sexual purity as something important. It's not. Sex is fun and healthy as long as you do it responsibly, which does not mean restricting the quantity of your sexual partners.
rightfulemperor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit lives in a bubble where ideology reigns supreme and the real world takes a back seat.
carlson71 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:51:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Real world is being drug behind the car, it can't even be seen.
__FilthyFingers__ ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:52:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you plan to convince a teenager of anything? Reverse psychology?
Tylertron12 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:43:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you treat teens like shit and act like they know nothing. They will become the bane of your existence. So treat them like you would treat any other adult and you might find their more agreeable.
conquer69 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:26:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You talk to them like they are people and explain stuff to them. That's it. You treat them with respect instead of being a condescending asshole that pretends to know everything (while explaining nothing) just because you happen to be older.
JEesSs ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:30:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God I hate that attitude. And yeah you're very correct about this.
douchebaggery5000 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:28:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you a parent or are you a teenager/young adult?
All that shit's easy to say on paper but I know for a fact when I was a teenager (I'm not a parent either) I thought I was the shit regardless of what my parents said.
conquer69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a teenager I also thought I was the shit but my parents most of the time didn't make sense, didn't know how to express themselves and tried to use their "parent authority" all the time instead of explaining why I shouldn't do something.
It wasn't only my parents but teachers did the same shit.
Now that I'm older, I realize they were wrong.
most_low ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:58:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They'll make up their own minds obviously, but most teenage girls really don't want to get pregnant or get an STD. If you buy them BC pills, they'll take them. If you buy them condoms, they probably won't use them every time but they might use them most of the time with new partners.
malvoliosf ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:46:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm going to put this nicely: you are deeply misinformed.
Edit: corrected and made more polite.
most_low ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:13:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's weird how different interaction over the internet is than face to face. I'm sure you are actually a pretty nice person in real life.
malvoliosf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, not really. Let me apologize for over-reacting. I have just been having problems with teens that cannot be solved with condoms and pills.
most_low ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's quite alright. I myself have made some vitriolic comments on Reddit that I am ashamed of. I would never say "fuck you" to someone in real life just for espousing what I consider to be an ignorant opinion, but I occasionally feel an urge to do so online, and it's a tendency that I've only really recently become aware of.
Teen pregnancy is pretty much the only problem that can be solved with condoms and pills, as far as I know. Do you want to share the kinds of problems you've been having? I don't have any children myself but my Little Brother just turned 13 and I could use some insight or at least warning about what kinds of issues to expect.
malvoliosf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. If that is true, you must be a better person than me.
I believe some people were also trying to solve STDs that way.
Bog-standard ones. Girl has trouble with her mother and trouble with her boyfriend.
I am told (I have no sons of my own) that teen boys are far less troublesome.
most_low ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:43:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure that I've ever actually said "fuck you" to someone out of anger. I did call my gf at the time a bitch when she gave me wrong directions. I feel pretty bad about that. I guess I've probably cursed at someone when I was drunk at some point.
ghostfacekitty3 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:51:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay??
most_low ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:52:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, okay.
DrKultra ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 16:01:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trying to convince a teenager to do the common sense thing? you got something else coming your way man if you think that works. Teenagers are like 4 year olds who can speak and have access to a car and alcohol.
most_low ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:07:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never met a teenage girl that wouldn't take a pill that prevents pregnancy and reduces acne.
DrKultra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:18:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya know, I cant argue with that logic >_> its a triple doozie if she has particularly painful periods, sience it removes those too.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:07:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So it's better to at least try to teach them about protection instead of abstinence-only.
DrKultra ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:18:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh of course. But you can never trust them to actually do it, because its very easy for them to forget in the heat of the moment. Teaching is always good, but you are just giving yourself mental peace.
conquer69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You make it sound like adults are a bastion of logic and critical thinking.
DrKultra ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:41:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god no, but at least adults have a fully developed decision making part of the brain. Nothing more nothing less.
michaelrulaz ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or you know have the secret service with her at all times so she can't have sex
FullyLoadedTortoise ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In our society, especially if you're a father, there's a strong sentiment that girls are different than sons, and that baby or not any penis is a threat and a curse. I think that's what the OP was getting at here buddy
most_low ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes I'm aware of what he was getting at. I was suggesting an alternative that I think has better outcomes for everyone involved.
most_low ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes I'm aware of what he was getting at. I was suggesting an alternative that I think has better outcomes for everyone involved.
FullyLoadedTortoise ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:16:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm with you on that, and I can't speak for everyone but I can tell you that the thought of a diverse array of penises flying at my daughter is troubling in and of itself
most_low ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:22:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any human body parts flying at anyone is troubling.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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most_low ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think she'll be alright.
smityson ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:55:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol I don't think most parents are fine with their teenaged daughter having rampant sex as long as they use condoms
book-reading-hippie ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:01:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just because you make sex safe for your teenager, doesn't mean they're going to have rampant sex.
smityson ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm saying parents don't just give their kids tips to make safe sex then just shrug and say, however much sex is fine with me. if you think that's what good parents do, then you are likely a teenager
book-reading-hippie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
agxryt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:13:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
since when did condoms and birth control cause rampant sex? That's some 1900s religious ideology right there
most_low ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:08:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't really matter what the parents are fine with since their daughters will do what they want either way.
smityson ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:39:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol what? parents choices are one of the biggest factors that affect kids choices
most_low ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:53:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the other biggest factors is what the kids feel like doing.
smityson ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:12:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
which has a ton to do with parenting
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V4refugee ยท 170 points ยท Posted at 15:22:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Better than being a cool hip grandfather raising his teen daughter's kids.
Flamburghur ยท 240 points ยท Posted at 15:25:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or the cool hip dad whose daughter knows how to respect herself and not get pregnant, and if she does, she knows abortion is available if she can't raise it on her own.
Ranzok ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:53:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No clearly teenagers are balls of hormones. They cannot be reasoned with and teaching them to value themselves and others is all for naught
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 16:01:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Teenagers aren't the brightest people in the world and yes, they are massively influenced by hormones. To top it all off, most of them think they have everything figured out and have no need of the advice and suggestions of older people.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:25:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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watertaco ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:10:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao
RoboChrist ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:26:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's easy to swim back to shore when the tide is coming in, but much harder when the tide is going out.
The right thing to do when you're being sucked out into the ocean is to swim parallel to the shore when the wave is going out, and then swim towards the shore when it's going in. If you try to fight it the entire way, you'll be more likely to wear yourself out completely and fail.
Teenagers are reasonable enough in some circumstances, but in the heat of the moment you can't expect their reason to work well. They'll come up with dozens of rationalizations for irrational behavior, if the rational behavior is opposed to what their irrational brain wants.
Teach your kids how to be responsible with their urges instead of trying to suppress them entirely. Suppression can simply be overwhelmed (especially if alcohol is involved), but channeling in a positive direction can handle much larger impulses.
dorekk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:24:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You generally can't stop teens from fucking. They're gonna fuck. Think about it--when you were a teenager, did you fuck?
But if you just tell them safe sex exists, they can fuck safely. Put your kid on the pill, tell your kid about condoms. There's no downside to that. At all.
Ranzok ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:14:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom just told me not to lose my virginity in the back of a car. Sure enough that's where my first gf wanted to do it after a party and I convinced her that we should go back to her place. I listened to my mom!
watertaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
18 year old here, haven't so much as hugged a girl yet, not for a lack of trying mind you.
I'm just not very attractive.
Typical_Whiteboy ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 15:44:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people would like to avoid having to help their daughter decide if she had an abortion at all costs.
butyourenice ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:52:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The first half of the comment addresses that.
_LifeIsAbsurd ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:24:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you read the whole comment?
ClarkEnt420 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:55:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Getting an abortion at a young age has been shown to have serious effects on the psyche. I would not feel cool nor hip if my daughter had to get an abortion. I'd feel like a failure.
JEesSs ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:59:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah if you're being told by others what a horrible human being you are for it, sure.
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L3tum ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because you can't give it away.
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L3tum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:32:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah,but if I could decide on whether abortion,keeping or giving away,I would choose giving away. I'm pro life,so sorry for that,you can down vote me as much as you want. I don't blame people who had abortions,but I'd never do it myself if it wouldn't be for a medical sort of thing(for example having some disease).
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If we're talking about psychological impact...
singularity2030 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:52:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure that was just pro-life propaganda on the psychological impact.
this_do3snt_matter ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:19:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lmfao
I have a son, I had an abortion when I was very young. The only hard part about it was how terrible everyone was telling me I was.
My son is 60000x harder to deal with, costs a lot of money and has been the catalyst to a lot of arguments with my husband.
Are you a young woman who's had an abortion? If not, I'd like to see a study to back that up NOT from allbabiesdeservetobebornnomatterwhatbutafterthatfuckemmmshouldnthavehadkids.com
flakemasterflake ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:43:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually it hasn't. Please back up with sources bc everything i've read says that most women feel relief after abortions.
butyourenice ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:52:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Source please.
carlson71 ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 16:55:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
We had a girl get one at 16 in my class. She didn't handle it good, and from what I hear 11 years later she's still not really over it. She said she seen either the parts or part of the baby and I guess for years after she had night terrors. She went from being super popular and sleeping with basically everyone, to no make up and just sitting in a corner, by graduation she has become the depressed girl that didn't talk to many people and didn't want you talking to her at all specially if you were a boy.
Down votes don't bring her aborted baby back and don't make her any less fucked in the brain from it. So you guys know.
JEesSs ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:01:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure there's another element to this though than just the abortion, such as the social context. If you are being exposed to anti-abortion propaganda, or hated by others because you had one, its not that strange to become depressed after having one.
carlson71 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:11:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
O I'm not saying it's not caused by more then just abortion. But getting the abortion is when she started going into a depressed state. Down vote and disagree all people want it's how it was. She went into a bad depression. Where I'm from abortions aren't common but not seen as evil it's a liberal state, am I saying she didn't get bad shit said no. She probably had terrible things said to her for being 16 and getting one. All I was saying was she got an abortion at 16 and it messed with her (it being everything involving it from the abortion to the aftermath.)
Not trying to sound like a dick or trying to argue. I just write words sometimes people hate them sometimes not, all the time I don't think about the consequences of it.
JEesSs ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:15:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you are getting downvoted because it really does seem as though you're saying 'abortions are bad because look what happened to this girl I knew'. But if that's not it then good.
carlson71 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, I fell as tho its the woman who decides. Not my circus not my monkies. I was just saying how I have seen how a young girl got tore apart inside by one more or less. I was sure it would go unnoticed or piss someone off. I'm not great with words, I build shit.
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carlson71 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Eh idk if it really cured the whore. She just became really sad and depressed. Like really depressed, she was a very attractive girl who made sure she dressed to the nines every time she knew she would be seen, after she just stopped caring.
littlechippie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:37:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what every dad strives for, being cool and hip enough to agree with abortions. Anything less means they're lame and old fashioned.
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so if you dont agree with killing a foetus youre not cool and hip?
e : so apparently asking a question that somewhat implies that I express an unpopular opinion(which i dont even hold) doesnt ass to the conversation and is being downvoted because of that?
StillEnjoyLegos ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:02:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So anyways guys.... who else thinks its cool that sea otters hold hands when they sleep so they donโt drift away from each other?
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:36:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While I agree that what you're saying is an ideal scenario, I've seen far too many cases in which it just ends up being "daughter goes out and parties every weekend while Grandpa watches the kid." Happens all the time.
Being irresponsible and having a kid you can't properly raise doesn't magically make you become responsible. Your irresponsible habits don't go away, and now instead of fucking up just your life, they fuck up a child's life as well.
I realize this is all anecdotal but it seriously pisses me off.
JEesSs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:08:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if she'd had an abortion grandpa wouldn't have to do that. Besides, those kinds of behaviours tend to have more underlying them, such as low SES, lack of education/knowledge, and likely other family and mental health problems.
I grew up in a society where sex ed is taught really well. You'd struggle to find people who are anti-abortion, and young people are even provided with contraceptives and STD/pregnancy tests by the school. However, everyone I grew up with didn't get a kid that their grandparents had to watch. The only ones that did were those that clearly had issues in various areas of their life.
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JEesSs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:48:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, but I'm not really sure what you are trying to say in relation to my comment?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry. Got a little rant-y. I agreed that people raising kids in this kind of fucked up environment do have underlying issues. I disputed your assessment that you didn't see these situations in your life because you grew up with "proper" sex ed.
JEesSs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:58:51 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never said I didn't see them, I said that I have observed them, but only in very specific social contexts. You seemed to imply in your original comment that your observation was a common one, despite good sex ed or ability to abort. This I disagreed with.
littlechippie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:02:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, why do they have to be calling their daughters sluts? I don't agree with abortion, I think it's murder, but I don't call someone who had it a slut. I think they're irresponsible and selfish, but I feel like you aren't representing a different opinion fairly.
littlechippie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was being sarcastic. I think you might have missed that.
DoctorBagels ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 16:00:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's right. Modern medicine ia great! We can fuck around all we want and then just pay away the natural consequences!
Creeplet7 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:32:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
That is exactly how it works, yes. Unless you also disagree with
- Vaccines
- Antibiotics
- Cooking food
- Living in houses
- Shitting in toilets
- Clothes
then you are perfectly happy to conquer nature. Hypocrite.
DoctorBagels ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woah there sport, where did I say I disagreed with medicine? My point is to use caution and not to just rely on medicine aa a crutch instead of making smart choices.
We're talking about teenagers. People here are saying "just hand em a condom and give them a talk on safe sex and then you have nothing to worry about"
Hahahaha, sure. :)
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, that is kind of the point of medicine. We created a pill that reduces the possibility of unwanted pregnancies by 99%. Now you can have sex without being worried about having a baby. Welcome to the 21st century.
DoctorBagels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That would be all well and good if unwanted pregnancy was the only consequence of uninhibited sex. Welcome to the conversation.
Is it wrong for a father to want to do his best to protect his daughter from all the negative consequences, the obvious ones and not, from casual hormone fueled teenage sex?
Your idealistic world view is so cute, I could just squeeze your cheeks.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Condoms prevent the spread of STDs very effectively.
DoctorBagels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hell yeah they do. They do a pretty good job, too.
That's not even my point though. My point is that there's more to teaching your teenage kids about sex than handing them condoms and birth control!
arceushero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody's saying that's all there is to it. Like, show me one person in this entire thread saying "you don't have to talk to your kids, just give them birth control".
DoctorBagels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, you're right and I see that now. I think I'm mixing up this thread with another one I'm participating in. Sorry.
RavNavi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or adoption of she chooses to give it up.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:03:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Knowing how to respect yourself and using birth control properly are two separate things.
neutrinogambit ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:38:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea fuck that. Abortion for a teenage girl shouldn't be much of a choice, it should be the default.
little_seed ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:14:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or adoption
NiceKicksGabe ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 16:33:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Abortion at 15? Goodbye to your mental health.
butyourenice ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:53:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Source please.
singularity2030 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:58:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not likely. Most studies that showed mental health impacts were shown to be flawed.
Flamburghur ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:16:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LOL And raising a kid at 15 will do wonders I'm sure.
dirty_sprite ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 15:42:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just teach your kids about safe sex
Michaelbama ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 15:53:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That always helps! No one ever rebels as a teenager!
DeVitoMcCool ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:00:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I fail to see your point. Are you saying you shouldn't teach safe sex and instead try to monitor and control your kid's sex life? Because I think the latter would more likely be the method that results in teenage rebellion.
Gian_Doe ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:01:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If only there was a backup plan...
Oh wait, it's the year 2016 not 1916, there are multiple backup plan options if that doesn't work - nevermind!
dirty_sprite ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:04:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a difference between teenage rebellion and pregnancy... Doubt anyone would do it just as a fuck you to the parents lol
butyourenice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:54:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Because some people will fail to abide by rules means we should not bother to have rules at all, right?
Why go to school at all? There will always be people who flunk out, so we shouldn't have school, either.
marino1310 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:14:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can teach all you want, it doesnt mean they'll listen. We had 2 years of that in highschool and 15 kids had babies in my junior/senior years.
JEesSs ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:57:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah well, you kind of have to provide them with the tools as well though.
marino1310 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:16:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They had a basket of condoms in class. Didnt help. You gotta teach kids to not only have safe sex but to just not do stupid shit in general.
JEesSs ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:21:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, regardless of your type example, it has been shown that sex ed is associated with lower rates of teen pregnancy and STD anyway. So, yeah, it seems as though most teens do actually listen.
this_do3snt_matter ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:16:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guarantee acting like that and treating your daughter like her virginity is some prize under lock and key and she's shitty if she loses it, will just make your daughter want to fuck people more.
You're just silly if you think that kids won't find a way. I wasn't allowed to leave the house for two months before I finally got kicked out at 16....guess what, I had sex during those two months.
Ignoring it and just saying no no no IS gonna make you the cool hip grandfather.... My sister had her first baby at 16.
pullupgirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. My parents shamed me and treated me with no respect and acted like I couldn't do anything right. Just made me rebel harder and do things I normally wouldn't have because I wanted to piss them off.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smh
PrototypeKyo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention the risk of her doing it just because some prick pressured her into it.
CocoaBiscuit ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:39:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who obsessed over his daughters vag. Its wierd.
ZeusMcFly ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:27:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lookit man, I've got an idiot little sister and I've already had to beat up 1 ex-boyfriend with a neck tattoo, shit's no joke.
countrydeathsong ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:48:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did you use a tattoo to beat a guy up?
ZeusMcFly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:30:41 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you gotta give 110%
peachesgp ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:36:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God, dad, why do you care? It's so uncool!
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peachesgp ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:47:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hate to be the one to break this to you, since your attitude makes me think you're a teenager, but teenagers are damn sure too stupid to make important life decisions, like whether or not to have a kid. And that isn't even what it's about. Caring if your kid goes and ruins their life by getting knocked up as a teenager is good parenting. Letting your dumbass teenager do whatever dumbass teenager shit they want is bad parenting.
PrototypeKyo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:41:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the issue here isn't so much about your child having rando sex like some run of the mill prostitute. I think it has to do with upbringing and promoting a positive environment. Teaching your child that doing well in school to get into a better college to get a better job will lead to less promiscuous sex because it may lead to a better crowd that they hang out with. That way they may choose to have stable relationships with friends and SOs. I'm a firm believer of personal opinion and science over popularity.
F0sh ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:06:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because apparently condoms don't exist? You don't have to "worry about everyone's dick" with regards to pregnancy if your daughter knows how to have sex without getting pregnant.
peachesgp ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Teaching about safe sex doesn't mean pregnancy won't happen. People tend to do rash and foolish things, especially teenage raging balls of hormones.
F0sh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:33 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think teaching safe sex prevents teenage pregnancy a lot more reliably than being that weird father who tries to prevent his daughter from having sex by intimidating her/her boyfriends. Since you can then, you know, still relieve those raging hormones.
pullupgirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're being disingenuous. Obviously teaching your kids about sex and being positive doesn't mean letting them run wild and do whatever they want. Yes, teenagers are stupid and don't always make the right choices, but you still do your best as a parent and try to educate them. Giving them education has a much better chance of preventing teenage pregnancy than shaming them does.
peachesgp ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:51:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who said anything at all about shaming? Worrying is its own thing.
pullupgirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Saying shit like "You only have to worry about one penis when you have a son, but you have to worry about every penis when you have a daughter!" is shaming and creepy.
L3tum ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:26:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't call every teenager too stupid,because that's exactly what makes them stupid. They think "Fuck it, I can't decide anything anyways so why should I care?!"
dorekk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:30:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It really sounds like you're also too stupid to make any life decisions for them.
DoctorBagels ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No it's not because she's an inexperienced teenager, it's because she's a woman! You're not letting me get enough opression points out of this.
KullWahad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:57:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you just treat her like an adult, she'll come to respect you.
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SadlyIamJustaHead ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 16:24:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh yeah, they are you sexist piece of shit.
My father was in NO WAY going to raise another kid when I was almost 18 because I got some woman knocked up. Especially because I grew up in bum-fuck Tennessee where becoming a young mother was one of the better economic outcomes for the area.
Get your head out of your ass and stop being blinded by your own twisted views on genders. You're just as bad as the people you think you're fighting.
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SadlyIamJustaHead ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:34:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You got it chief. They can live in their parents house and be unemployed for the rest of their life or work at the local dollar store that we just got a couple years ago instead of hitching a ride on some college boy that will be able to give them a half way decent life in 4-5 years. You have NO IDEA what you're talking about and have probably never been out of whatever big town you live in. (EDIT: Watch this to get an idea of where I grew up at)
Yes, high degrees of "protection" and "shame" are generally reserved for women, but that's not what you said. You tried to turn it into a sexist war when every child regardless of gender, unless you're a shitty parent, will have that pressure to not fuck up 3(+) lives.
ALSOEDIT: Not EVERY young woman was like that. Yes, a % of the graduating class went to colleges. I'm not talking about them.
hairaware ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 15:35:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
most guys just wanna bang your daughter and nothing else. As a father you should be helping her find someone that will make her happy long term not short term gratification.
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:01:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your 14 year old wanted to hook up with random dudes it's unprogressive to not like that? I mean, you don't own her but she lives in your house and eats your food.
"No susie, stop sleeping with 6 dudes a week in the room I used to change you in." Is probably misogynistic.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:09:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:13:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not an actual father, just preparing. So you don't attempt to alter your children's behavior in any way?
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's natural to want to do many things, I as a parent do not have to condone them. Of course I'll do everything in my power to make sure my kids understand safe sex, I'm not an idiot. But they;re still children. And I know I'm probably "behind the times" but I don't think sex is some meaningless and fickle thing.
dorekk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:33:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sexism does funny things to peoples' brains.
hairaware ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 15:45:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why would I commit to a girl who gave away the main thing i want from her for free.
microwave999 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:59:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because chances are that you also had some casual sex in your life time, because thats what people do. You dont have to make a big deal out of it.
SadlyIamJustaHead ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:29:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't find any figures in my 10 seconds of googling but I'm going to put casual sex very firmly in the "SOME PEOPLE" category. Not the "that's what people do" category. And yes, people are more than entitled to make a big deal out of it if it's important to them.
materialdesigner ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:00:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because maybe when you grow the fuck up sex is no longer "the main thing you want" from some women
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Listen: don't ever have children.
PrototypeKyo ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the mind and body of a teenager, it could have major issues. Not just Pregnancy and STDs, but body image, self worth, and other psychological issues as well.
violue ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With one of those t-shirts that says "Guns don't kill people, fathers with pretty daughters kill people".
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:24:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't have to take care of his teenage daughters kid. Sounds cool as shit to me.
kyru ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 15:34:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You really don't if you are a decent person.
goatamousprice ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:52:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's such a stupid mentality. "if I have a daughter, I'm keeping her locked up until she's 18!"
Drives me nuts because it's such backwards thinking (even if said in jest)
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, let 'em fuck like rabbits
DevinTheGrand ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:20:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd argue the opposite is true, at least a girl can only cause one pregnancy at a time.
whigg ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 15:40:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow that's incredibly misogynistic
wuzizname ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:42:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Says who?
TheThng ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:03:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wanting your daughter to make good choices and not become pregnant at an early age, thus severely reducing her chances in life is misogynistic, didnt you know?
wuzizname ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:06:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I suppose so.... I thought giving extra special attention and care towards your daughter would be considered a loving thing but I suppose it makes one a woman hater.
TheThng ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:12:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well, i mean, it IS 2016. We have to be totes progressive now.
DrenDran ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This comment chain is disgusting and an example of why women are being pushed out of gaming.
/s
TheThng ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
dirty_sprite ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:43:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Teach your kids safe sex and you can take your mind off it
TokyoJade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every kid learns how to drive safe. It doesn't mean they're going to be safe
DoctorBagels ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:02:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Tell your teenagers not to do something, and they won't do it"
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
MyManD ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:13:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-Looks down at own dick-
Everyone's
Zenie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder is saying president Obama's daughters and dick in the same sentence online is some sort of trigger and now I'm on a list somewhere in the NSA. Dammit...
ThatGuyYouWantToBe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:44:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brian?
wuzizname ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:44:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Andy?
ThatGuyYouWantToBe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:45:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rafi Bomb!
Dinhnyboy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:47:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except yours.
Monstera_leaf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:01:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just treat your daughter and sons sex lives the same way.
Sub116610 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:26:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/lA_WYpQEeJg?t=2m45s
2:45 mark
JooJoona ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:39:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you teach your girl to have half a brain or more.
macarena_of_time ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:52:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why are you worried about teenagers dicks?
UniversalSnip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:58:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get it
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:08:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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wuzizname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno if having 2 dicks would be a good thing or a bad thing.
Maybe circumcise one and leave the other as an aardvark for the convenience of her preference?
TheWheats56 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:26:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fox News: OBAMA WORRIES ABOUT TEEENAGE BOYS' DICKS!
wuzizname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ABOUT EVERY TEENAGE BOYS' DICKS!
deHavillandDash8Q400 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:13:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How sexist of you. Sex is an equally big deal for boys and girls.
cqm ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:18:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
because attractive girls get advances a lot from nobodies. more likely one of which will be a forceful advance.
An observation that is discriminatory toward a gender does not negate the validity.
koshthethird ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:55:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a valid point, but whenever this is quoted, it's almost never in the context of talking about sexual assault. Most of the comments here just seem to be expressing terror at the idea of having a sexually active daughter.
deHavillandDash8Q400 ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 15:59:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. Men and women clearly pursue each other equally! If you have to pursue women then that's your fault. You're the exception to the rule.
Yes it does. It's misogynistic!
TheThng ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:05:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah...cuz dudes totally arent the ones that always have to make the first move. Or at least, the vast, vast majority of the time.
deHavillandDash8Q400 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 16:06:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No man totally is exactly the same. At least that's what everyone on /r/cringe told me.
cqm ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:17:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so... you're trolling... ? just watch one of those hidden camera cat call videos
deHavillandDash8Q400 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:30:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'm being sarcastic. People who are "extreme pro equality" refuse to acknowledge that the statement I originally replied to is true.
wuzizname ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:41:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh huh.
Melmab ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe he will have that particular worry on his mind - Secret Service will be guarding his daughters for the rest of their lives. I'm sure he (or worse, Michelle Obama) will get daily / nightly reports on their activities.
digitalmofo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought service was only for 10 years after he leaves office now, did they change it back to lifetime?
Melmab ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:16:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was life until 1997, the sometime during his term - President Obama signed lifetime protection back into law.
digitalmofo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good. It should be life.
Melmab ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:40:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it should. However with a caveat, the former Presidents cannot charge the Service an undue amount for housing (in order to have agents nearby 24/7).
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama won't do that.
ratherbealurker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:20:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea but in the future all teenagers will be potsexual..or pansexual... ubersexual.
So then you have to worry about everyone's everything.
ipatentthings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thirty-seven?
wuzizname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Schfifty-five.
jrakosi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've got to believe having secret service agents around all the time stunted their dating life...
strafekun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nonsense. A vagina can only get pregnant so many times in those teen years. On the other hand, your son's wayward penis can cause a near-infinite amount of baby-trouble.
FECAL_BURNING ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have a girl, you only have to worry about one pregnancy. If you have a boy, you have to worry about everybody's pregnancies.
olebootstrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sexist
wuzizname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Says who?
cheesesteakers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you hear this on opie and Anthony last week? Cause I did. Never heard it before that though.
wuzizname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in Canada, we don't have access to funny radio shows.
cheesesteakers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:40 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well they say they come in threes so I'm guessing I'll hear that saying again before the end of the month
AmateurHero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even yours ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
ChildGodofTerminus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha ha patriarchy!
Carcaju ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have two daughters (2 and 5 y.o.). I'll be worried about everyone's dicks times 2.
lordeddardstark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even your own?
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:09:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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most_low ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:17:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't like the trope of the overprotective father who asks his daughter's dates what "their intentions" are. Trying to pretend that your daughter doesn't want to have sex is how you end up with a pregnant teenage daughter. Just get her some birth control for Christ's sake. Then you hardly have to worry about the fact that she's a giant slut, like every other teenage girl and boy.
ThatDidntJustHappen ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, this comment again.
most_low ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there something in particular you don't like about it, or did you just want to point out that you have seen a similar comment before?
ThatDidntJustHappen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Father-Daughter discussions on reddit typically go like this:
Topic is introduced somehow
Someone says the saying with the worrying and the penises or someone mentions the boyfriend coming home to the father cleaning his gun
People take it at face value
Somone says your comment almost verbatim
I agree with everything you said, it's just I've seen it so many times its like a circle-jerk.
most_low ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because there really are men who think that's the appropriate way to raise their daughter. I have a friend who is proud of the fact that he's going to be an overprotective father. He sees that as his responsibility.
i_love_pencils ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your the father of girls, shoot the first boy that shows up at the door. Word will get out.
rand486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not even kidding you, my prom date's parents told me this just before we went out...
kiwiluke ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:27:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not when your daughters have secret service protection, it's a brave boy to try something when there is a guy with a gun in the drivers seat
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:39:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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kiwiluke ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wouldn't be the first time, have you not heard the term "shotgun wedding"?
Princess_Little ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:34:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And another that says having daughters is God's punishment on men for being boys.
2boredtocare ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:30:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great. i have two daughters. That's a lot of dicks to be worrying about. I want to throw up just typing that.
wuzizname ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy a gun if you don't already own one. Shotgun dad at the door is the most respected dad.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:31:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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wuzizname ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:37:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Highly trained professional cock-blockers, with permission to use deadly force.... now I actually feel bad for their boyfriends.
cinch123 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:49:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have 5 sons and no daughters. My wife actually says "but I only have 5 dicks to worry about instead of all of them" to her friends who feel she was somehow deprived of something by not having any girls.
iCupid ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:09:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This comment killed me, and I am in a Library ffs.
bsmfaktor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:13:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
rip in books
SnakeDocMaster ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:53:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm.
I have three sons, and my level of stress is much lower than my best friend, who has a daughter.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:36:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"If you have a son you only have to worry about one Peter. If you have a daughter you have to worry about every Peter in town"
Just_Look_Around_You ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:25:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shut the fuck up with your stupid cliche
GuyAboveIsStupid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
... You need to talk, son?
wuzizname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make me, fuckface!
You forget to take your meds today?
Just_Look_Around_You ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's ok. You've got bullshit cliches. Don't post them here, post them on your office cubicle
wuzizname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:43 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah you're cool.
sports_and_wine ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:54:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's crazy how they have literally grown up in front of our eyes. Sasha was carried by her dad in 2008 and now she's a sassy teen. Malia is about to go off to college. The only Obama who looks pretty much the same is Michelle.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At this rate, he'll be 75 by the time he's 60.
thumpas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At this rate, by tuesday it will be thursday, by wednesday it will be august, and by thursday it will be the end of existance as we know it!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure it's not because of the nanomachines?
baulrogsbane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why are you one of the top comments on every damn post
WJ90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:42 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Abu el Banat
lawvol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not for long. Only has a couple more years of teenage years for Malia. She will be going to college in the fall.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also because he's a clone with FOXDIE
cheesiestcheese ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:15:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like it would get a chuckle in the office.
Wheatiez ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:02:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
May god have mercy on his soul
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Poor bastard.
afewdollarsmore ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:28:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dear god.
YourARisAwful ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 15:06:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, at least they aren't very pretty. He has that going for them.
loi044 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Two words.
Secret Service.
0b_101010 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Poor guy.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:05:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, now he has to worry about who they date.
bathroomstalin ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 15:10:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Malia's been legal to fuck for a year and a half now เฒ โกเฒ
fiftieth ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:16:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama's going to put cancer in your tap water now that you said that.
bathroomstalin ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:19:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He'd do worse if he ever found out what I've done
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They single doe?
CrimsonPig ยท 5846 points ยท Posted at 14:03:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency: not even once.
Ce11arDoor ยท 3621 points ยท Posted at 14:25:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friends don't let friends do Presidency!
straydog1980 ยท 2018 points ยท Posted at 14:37:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where were Monica Lewinsky's friends when she did the president?
[deleted] ยท 978 points ยท Posted at 14:44:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 613 points ยท Posted at 14:59:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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poopy_wizard132 ยท 313 points ยท Posted at 15:29:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
American politics are strange.
[deleted] ยท 455 points ยท Posted at 15:35:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I find them hilaryious.
[deleted] ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 15:49:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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RandomName01 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:14:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/010/390/pC8jf5t4eWCDKcMu.jpg
BroadwayHoe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:17:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's an older one but it checks out
bran_dong ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:29:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/punchablefaces
Xanthan81 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:27:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Groanica Lewinsky...
DoYouEvenThroCodeBro ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:20:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You were so close.
TheRealOptician ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:25:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shwoof
DoYouEvenThroCodeBro ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:22:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you mean Hillary?
PMbumbumpics ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:45:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i'm not saying you're wrong, just wondering what makes you think that?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:50:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We certainly are not the first county to have our leader caught in an adultery scandal. Maybe the first to have the first lady of the leader caught in an adultery scandal have a good shot at becoming the President.
USAuthority ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's why you will never beat us
ZachAttackonTitan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Poopy wizard politics are strange
poopy_wizard132 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:54:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(โฉ อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)โโโ๏พ. * ๏ฝฅ ๏ฝก๏พ. * ๐ฉ
ZachAttackonTitan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have just made my day
UninvitedGhost ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:56:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'Tis a silly place.
Ih8winter ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
by "strange" you mean stupid correct?
paltmor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:30:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For sure...
pejmany ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:01:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
West Wingwoman
Zheusey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:01:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
best west wingwoman ever
ChiefSchniplock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
West Wingwoman
reebee7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...This somehow makes their marriage sound awesome.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She's my wingmom.
BadNewsBarbearian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right or left wing?
Phiinque ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
West-wingwoman?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Technically she was a West wing woman
Ryno1o1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You might even say, best left wingwoman ever
archimedesscrew ยท 161 points ยท Posted at 15:02:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And hilarity ensued! I'll show myself out...
killhimalready ยท 321 points ยท Posted at 15:05:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HILLARITY!
Zotinax ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 15:16:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This needs to be one of those vibrating "3D" GIFs
[deleted] ยท 198 points ยท Posted at 15:56:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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britchesss ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:58:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit the last one
dangeron ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:07:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha I was thinking of deleting it because it came out kind of jarring, but I added the seizure thing instead.
TelMegiddo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:39:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For mobile users.
dangeron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:42:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks
Zotinax ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:12:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...
thank you...
dangeron ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:18:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
NotQuiteOnTopic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy Mother Fuck!
skyman724 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthullury R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
InsidiousTroll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:24:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay how the fuck are these made? Some wizardry in Photoshop?
dangeron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Umm I use a shitty video editing software and edit the pan/color frame by frame. Not sure how others have done it, and that's why mine are a little wonky.
rumple_fore_skin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:30:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never been prone to seizures, but I think I just had one.
dangeron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:34:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I'm honored. Your username is pretty rad, too. Right on, man.
jwilcz94 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:32:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're doing the Lord's work, son.
thed3al ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:33:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're doing God's work, son
HP_civ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:36:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I will so use that :D
dangeron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:42:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please!
NopeCantStopWontStop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:37:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I looked at these pictures as PSY's Daddy song was playing. Doesn't get better than that!
Jewronimoses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I GOT IT FROM MY DADDY!
Telefunkin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:45:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's slightly terrifying.
lil_mac2012 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:46:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched number 3 for a minute straight trying to figure out if the red tint was coming from a single frame picture of Satan stuck into that gif. I don't know what I was thinking, no Satan necessary to achieve that effect...
Honestly you should do that though, just resize and stick this in there as a single frame...
dangeron ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:02:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know, it's an amazing time to be alive.
http://i.imgur.com/aaQKQAG.gifv
bullintheheather ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a skull thrown in there as well as the devil? Ace work!
turd_boy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every time it flashes the horns my gut laughter peaks again, it could have went on for hours!
SlipperySurface ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:47:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
omg, this is great! it's going to be in my nightmares
dangeron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
brb
chelseabreadman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:14:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's terrifying.
anonymous93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:19:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have only now discovered "Drag to resize'' on that last one.
turd_boy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Number 3 almost gave me some kind of seizure/gut laugh combo thing that surely must be potentially deadly.
nerf_herder1986 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HILLARY used MENTION 9/11!
It's super effective!
dangeron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
REPORTER used ASK ABOUT EMAILS
...
HILLARY is confused!
HILLARY used SHRUG
It hurt itself in its confusion!
deadcow5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bookmarking these in case I need them later...
dangeron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, you will
Pnk-Kitten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She looks Emperor Palpatine and a turtle had a baby together.
dangeron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn that's spot-on...
FamousButthole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God bless you
dangeron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How famous we talkin'?
FamousButthole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
World
svengalus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the nightmares.
I_AM_GODDAMN_BATMAN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:46:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now imagine Hilary and vibrator.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:35:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
for science? you're sick
Glock1Omm ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:21:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pantsuits vs. Mom Jeans.
staringathesun ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:28:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
good ol HillDawg
twominitsturkish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a snuke in her snizz!
SirPeyton ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:17:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow that's scary. But still not as scary as the thought of her becoming president.
ChandlerMc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:44:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While I agree somewhat with your sentiment, Trump, Cruz, and Carson are much scarier.
Feel the Bern.
turd_boy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even think Hillary would do bad, would be a lot like Bill and/or Obama, she's a democrat, she would listen to the exact same corporate assholes as Bill and Obama and make the exact same policy decisions.
What's the difference honestly? Serious question.
Also I agree, feel the Bern indeed.
__kb__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hillarious
sean151 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone submitted this to PS battles yet? If not that needs to happen.
killhimalready ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On it.
srijankiller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God must be crazy?
VanciousRex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This scared me more than I expected... and to be honest, I wasn't sure what to expect.
youvegotredonyou2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yubaba
TMBTs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh! Fuck!
GotzChikn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
FTFY
http://imgur.com/BoyEbfh.jpg
Ur_moms_a_hookr69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
more like CHILLARITY! amirite???
Jazzspasm ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 15:08:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/wh3GW94.gif
Mentalpatient87 ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 15:56:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Ssshhit, which way do the humans move their heads for this gesture again?"
PunchyPalooka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Carefully not nodding her head yes, or shaking it no.
xintox2 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahaaa!
Arkanian410 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:32:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that Hairy Caray from SNL?
RoboNinjaPirate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When someone tries to get a clear yes or no answer from her in congressional hearings.
fleece ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy Edith Bunker
Goobermnt_Prospiracy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awwwwchieee!!!
sharket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, no, yeah, no...
SimilarSimian ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:07:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No no. You did good. Stick around.
amazingfacepalm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:13:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're not going anywhere. We won't let you.
archimedesscrew ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:17:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
I was kind of lying about leaving anyway. I've got tons of things to do though, but Reddit won't let me do them. My boss calls Reddit "the invisible prison".
AshTheGoblin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:35:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This sounded like a shitty generic reddit comment until I read it about 3 times.
jarjarbinx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a big Bern!
butter_my_fingers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
in Cedar Rapids
stealthscrape ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:20:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I_RAPE_PEOPLE_II ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Orgy?
bikerwalla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
#ChillaryClinton
ChrisInNJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In cedar rapids
USAuthority ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no wonder she looks like such a dyke
stromm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doin' it will Hillary.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:07:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Taping her calls.
vheissu417 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:47:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Waiting their turn
JattSikh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:59:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of underwear does Monica Lewinsky wear?
President's Choice.
DoctorGlocktor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:19:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She didn't do the presidency, she just tasted it
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They weren't lucky enough to get invited.
Zetavu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:45:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously though, look at Bill first and last addresses, then look at him now. He looks better than ever, post heart attack, etc.
b_fellow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:59:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Putting on wiretap devices for the special prosecutor.
Minxie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:52:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well...Linda Tripp taped all her calls with Lewinsky and ran after a book deal with them.
Confused_Banker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Molly and that whiskey, that's Monica Lewinsky
killhimalready ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:59:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does it count if she only did cigars?
AAonthebutton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dont get it.
FamousButthole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hillary Rodham Clinton
haiku_for_yall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Monica was there
Under the president's desk
Having a grand time.
opsmomdelivered ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 14:46:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Listen, I care about you man. DONT run for president.
tlingitsoldier ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:43:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I was going to run this year. But seeing your concern for my well being has changed my mind. Thanks friend!
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:31:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We need to start pushing for P.A.R.E. programs in our schools.
1MILLION_KARMA_PLZ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:02:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always remember to use a Designated President when you've been drinking
usmcawp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great AIC reference.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:16:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is your brain on congress.
bishop67 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:17:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Beating an old man for money isn't normal. But on Presidency it is." Presidency, not even once.
NaffRespect ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is golden right here.
imsoblack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:31:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deez Nuts: 16 and President
kalel1980 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
George Bush Jr didn't have a lot of friends..
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:40:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what years of continuous smoking does to your face son.
DatCheapy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friends don't let friends get haircuts
ben200451 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:58:33 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Philip DeFranco used both yours, and the top comment on his latest video.
Dodgerballs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Faces of Presidency
dxrebirth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
P.A.R.E.
heelercs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This explains why Trump is running...he has no friends.
chriscucumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair it's getting up on a decade here that he's been in
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL, Obama and the Republicans are besties.
donall ยท 2171 points ยท Posted at 15:17:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
George W Bush
iatethat ยท 851 points ยท Posted at 15:40:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking hell.
blinkfan305 ยท 549 points ยท Posted at 16:50:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just goes to show you, if you wanna look older and get into bars without being carded, become the President.
JamesColesPardon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:12:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You usually leave pretty fucking rich, too. Either in power, favors, or federal reserve notes.
Puddinfellow ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:16:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
nah, I left a bar this weekend and I'm almost broke.
mrgreencannabis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:26:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got into a bar this weekend and I don't even know what money is.
AshgarPN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's face it, you're going in rich or you ain't going in.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:22:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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JamesColesPardon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I call this the kingmaker.
return_0_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The long con
PatHeist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or wait 8 years?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:14 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or age 8 years from late 40s to mid 50s.
ClimbingC ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:05:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One is a studio publicity shot, with plenty of make up and a quick run through auto-balancing in a photo application.
The other is a 'candid' snap while out in the public, taken by someone who has no desire/requirement to make the person look good.
Not saying 8 years as a president doesn't take its toll. But those photos are not great examples. Plus I don't think the 2000 was taken in 2000, looks too young.
testylawyer ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:12:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should see kennedy.
Scizmz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:01:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ohhhh that's low. (6 feet?)
sajittarius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yea he looks like a zombie
Timmmmel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:33:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you always look for the most flattering and posed picture on one side, and a snapshot on a bad day for the other, you'll find "comparisons" like these for a lot of people in much less than 8 years
ShasneKnasty ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:57:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost as if people age in 8 years
Tarquin11 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 17:02:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He aged 20.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:19:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Some of you guys are alright,
If you live in the seventh circle of hell, don't attend the great skellington ball tomorrow.
I am using Reddit Overwrite to delete all of my previous comments for privacy. I will be back under a similar username /r/opiates.
salgat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He aged from his 50s to his 60s; I'd be amazed if his hair wasn't gray/white in his 60s.
lennybird ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:00:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And one picture is fresh out of campaign season all dolled up and chipper while the last is the, "throw on a t-shirt and jeans and head out because who cares now?"
Most leaders absolutely dye their hair. Obama claims he's one of the few who did not.
Nimitz87 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:06:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
t-shirt and jeans? he's in a full suit int he 2nd shot.
CumulativeDrek2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its almost as if portraits might be touched up a bit.
USAuthority ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i didnt age that much in 8 years
rreighe2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:14:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Runnin a country ain't easy peasy.
Beli_Mawrr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The mind control drugs they use have the side effect of aging you.
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much anyone is gonna look like that going from 54 to 62.
snotsnit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One day we're gonna find out he grey'd because of all the one on one battles he was doing with the space aliens
Aunvilgod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Torturing ppl makes you look older, watch out
Rivster79 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 16:30:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No shit. How the fuck did we elect him twice???
Moral_Anarchist ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:42:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We didn't
pcd84 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:54:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Edgy.
dorekk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:36:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's right, though. He was elected once.
lennybird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:00:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Truthy.
abolish_karma ยท -32 points ยท Posted at 16:08:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In dubya's case it's becaus of too much golfing, during the presidential period.
[deleted] ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 16:15:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/aug/23/who-took-more-vacation-george-w-bush-or-barack-oba/
Obama played 186 rounds of golf during his presidency through Aug. 12, according to Yahoo! News. That number that has gone up a bit since then due to additional rounds on Marthaโs Vineyard.
Bush played many fewer rounds as president -- 24
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:19:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
[deleted]
mgzukowski ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:51:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well its not like Michael Moore is known for his impartiality. He is know for cutting context and editing footage to fit his narrative.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:28:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he is not guiltier than other people when it comes to that, its just that he presents it as unbiased and objective info thats disshonest and should call into question any other allegations he makes.
mgzukowski ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean there is levels and he definitely is in the worst category. Like that famous scene where he opens a bank account and gets a rifle right then and there.
What actually happened was he opened an account which gave him a discount on the rifle, he payed for the rifle, went through the background check, and came back for it a week later. Then passed it off as he got it right then and there as a free gift for opening an account. At best that's lying by omission.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I totally agree with you, I think whats worse is that the same offenses being commited by someone who Michael Moore supports are A-OK. Being from Sweden however I can tell you there are several categories below Michael Moore to which you can stoop when it comes to presenting information. One of the major news stories right now around here is actually how the Police, NGOยดs like Amnesty International and national-media have been actively working together to surpress information that they thought would affect public oppinion, involving cases of rape, vandalism and sexual harassment of mostly underaged girls. One of the plots even involved a patroling officers report being disqualified as it didnt fit the narrative.
mgzukowski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say that's a hell of alot worse then what Michael Moore does. No one actually believe anything that comes out of that fat fucks mouth unless they they are a freshman in college.
Well I hope people keep on their ass till its all out in the open.
Zipo29 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:50:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well some people like facts others don't.
Before people read way to much into that comment it applies people on all sides.
SirNoName ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love the fact that someone did the analysis on how many rounds of golf presidents play. Not how much time they spent, but individual rounds. I wonder if they have the scores and handicaps.
I_wish_I_was_a_nigga ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:22:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think abolish_karma is using golf as a sort of shorthand to refer to the amount of vacation time taken.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:30:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama took a shit ton of vacation time too. It's like having the most stressful job on Earth makes a guy want to get away for a weekend. Who woulda thunk?
Cautemoc ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:30:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From the same article:
Sorry, but Bush was still one hell of an irresponsible president by comparison. Also, the most rounds played was by Ex-president Wilson, with over 1,000 rounds, to get some perspective.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:53:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Working from his Texas ranch does not make him "irresponsible". It doesn't matter where the president works, they bring all the necessary equipment with him. There's no such thing as a presidential vacation.
Cautemoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:17:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Problem is, I'm sure he was not equally effective working from his ranch, calling into meetings and talking to advisors on the phone. No leadership positions get to call in 30% of the time. It's not effective communication.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure it is. It's not like a major piece of legislation is being passed every day. The advisors come to you.
Cautemoc ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jeeze. I guess you haven't had a job that requires meetings. Pro tip: the leaders don't call in to them. The VP never calls into an advisory meeting so he can work from home.
isubird33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh...this happens all the time. Outside of the important meetings, bosses can call in or get the notes from the meeting, and they work from home where they aren't bothered with the little things.
Cautemoc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:22:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really want to know what sector you guys work in where managers and executives are calling-in to advisory meetings. Apparently I'm working in the wrong area. Also, I've never in my life heard someone try to justify working from home to avoid being bothered by little things.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Newsflash, dude: your job isn't anything like being president.
Cautemoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't talking about being President specifically there, follow the thread. I'm realizing I'm too deep because everyone that is responding barely makes any sense.
jimincognito ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:53:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many of the Texas trips were "working vacations" at his ranch near Waco. Just because he wasn't in Washington doesn't mean he wasn't doing shit. Same for the current administration.
SovietJugernaut ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:09:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The same could probably be said for Obama going to Hawaii or Chicago. Really, though, all of the gripes about presidential vacations are, I think, misplaced at best.
Does any reasonable person really believe that these are true vacations? I find it unlikely that during these times they aren't either in meetings, on phone calls, talking to advisors, or reflecting on their policy objectives and how to implement them.
And even if a small part of them are real vacations, I'd rather have a president able to take the time when they can do destress if needed to have clearer minds when making big decisions.
Cautemoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:01:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I'm sure he was equally effective working from his ranch, calling into meetings and talking to advisors on the phone. Why even have an Oval Office?
Hibernica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now you're thinking like John McAfee!
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bush also had to deal with 9/11. He gets a free pass for dealing with one of the most horrific acts to ever happen on American soil.
Cautemoc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:38:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't see how the USA being attacked gives the Commander In Chief a free pass to spend 30% of his presidency on vacation.
_shouldersofgiants_ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:43:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I forgot the president stops working when he goes on vacation. What a petty talking point.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:41:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost like vacation relieves stress or something. Weird, I know.
Cautemoc ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 16:43:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It's the job of the Commander In Chief (President) to be the leader of the armed forces. You don't get to take more vacation time because your title's role is needed, you take less.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of idiot do you have to be to think that the president gets vacation? They work every single day, no matter where in the world they are.
Cautemoc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:31:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of idiot do you have to be to think any leader is as effective working from home as from his office? You think calling into meetings and talking to advisors on the phone is going to be efficient?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You might want to reconsider that statement, since the White House is a home. The president is wired up to work from anywhere in the world, it's required in the event of war.
Stop being such a douchebag liberal and think with your head. You don't need to blatantly mislead people in order to score points against a president that is no longer in office.
Cautemoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha.... It's set up as a living quarters, sure, but that is where the executive offices are. Calling into a meeting is not the same as sitting at a table with them, never has been, and the future where it is isn't here yet.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck are you talking about?
We have video chat now. Calling in to a meeting isn't the same? As in, you are not physically there where you can sneeze on them?
You should tell all of this to Google. The entire company of Google. Almost every major business meeting encompasses video chat between various employees. The USA is a fucking gigantic Country - why would you have to sit in the White House to conduct a meeting? That makes no sense at all. Anything you can do in Washington D.C you can do in Oregon. In Googles case, you don't have to be sitting in a board room meeting inside the same room in the main campus over in Mountain View. You can be in one of their many other offices scattered throughout the entire world, or even at home (working from home is an option for every Google position in the entire company about 40% of the time).
The future where we can have effective meetings and discussions without sitting in an office together, physically, isn't here yet?
You are dumb.
Source: I used to work for Google.
Cautemoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now I understand why you 'used' to work for Google. You don't even understand the intention of the CFO.
Source: Citing links and not talking out my ass
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Googlers telecommute all the time lol and even when they don't, the majority of their meetings are still done over Google Hangouts
You're citing an article that takes a single quote from the CFO (who doesn't manage Google's employees in any direct form). I'm telling you flat out that they do this all the time, I worked for Google for three years.
EDIT: http://allthingsd.com/20130225/survey-says-despite-yahoo-ban-most-tech-companies-support-work-from-home-for-employees/
Wanna know what the entire answer says?
"That said, officially, many Googlers are allowed and even encouraged to work at home. The company told me when asked about work-from-home policies: โWe do not have a formal policy and leave Googlers to use good judgment.โ"
You're digging a bigger and bigger hole. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about and should just knock it off now. You will only look more and more stupid.
Cautemoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Sorry if I don't take your word on it, when there is no data to support you and all public statements by company executives indicate the opposite.
Edit: And you haven't even said what department you are referring to. For all I know, you might have worked in International HR. Your assurances mean next to nothing on the internet, especially with a name like yours.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:15:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except the full quote, which I just sourced in my reply?
Dude, seriously. Just shut the fuck up. Jesus.
Cautemoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, way to quote a fucking blog called allthingsd with a lolcat in it. That's not the quote from the CFO, that's a clarifying sentence from the reporter who's source is "the company told me". How did "the company" tell her this? Through what channel? You claim I'm digging a hole, yet you look more and more like a prick with every half-assed claim you're making. If Google employees are like you, putting "lol" in your sentences and naming yourself after beastiality, I'm beginning to see how they thought trying out social media would be a good endeavor.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:46:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes because the president can just push a big red button and everything will be solved! You fucking retard. A president who is stressed out 24/7 will surely make all the best decisions! He should give up sleeping while he's at it! A president who is sleeping is a lazy bum. You can't fix the world while you're resting!
Cautemoc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:49:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I thought a button would solve it, he could spend all the time he wanted on vacation. Stop making nonsense arguments. I'm not saying he could spend no time on vacation, I'm saying he shouldn't have spent an entire 1/3 of it on vacation. Bush defenders are incredible.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:53:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bush attackers are fucking idiots. You're the one making nonsense arguments. You seem a little uneducated about what the president can do. Whether he's in the white house or at the ranch, there's only so much change he can implement. The amount of vacation time the president has is not directly correlated to how much he accomplished. It's such a stupid and fallacious argument to make. Bush sure as shit did more than Obama with 30% less time in the office.
Cautemoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:58:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, sure bud.
You're not worth conversing with on this.
PenguinPerson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry friend but our economy says otherwise. Bush presidency was not a good net result for the states but Obama presidency was one of economic recovery.
Bush is highly criticized for his vacation because most of his decisions when it came to the war were in fact bad ones and were not guided by any forethought. You can argue otherwise but that the way it is. If his decisions were good then his vacation time could be seen as worthwhile but we got into wars that did nothing but destabilize the middle east further and we are reaping what we had sown from his presidency and those that preceded him with these new much more capable terrorist organizations.
IFightPolarBears ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...could the public get mandatory paid vacations too then? Everyone has stresses.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:49:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your job doesn't deal directly with the livelihood of everyone in the country. So no. Flipping burgers at McDonalds is a little different than dealing with 9/11. How you thought that was a good argument is beyond me.
IFightPolarBears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...everyone's life deals directly with someone's life.
Father dies from a heart attack at 50, kids drop outta highschool/college.
The father that has a heart attack doesn't have a staff that caters to his every need. Staff that reads the legislation, staff to cook, and protect him.
I wasn't trying to compair the two, but standing up for just his vacations but not everyone elses seems a bit off, no?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it doesn't seem a bit off. Dealing with a fathers heart attack is way different than dealing directly with the livelihood of millions of starving and homeless people. Or with people who can't afford health care. Or terrorism.
IFightPolarBears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Implying bush did anything for the homeless or healthcare.
effpasswords ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and by free pass you mean, what exactly?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:54:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you really not understand what I meant? A free pass for more vacation time.
PenguinPerson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well the body count isn't as high for Sandy hooks I think it's still up there on a day of horror in American history so Obama has had his fair share.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If by 'deal with', you mean 'didn't deal with and went on vacation instead'.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-presidential-vacations/2014/08/15/2aa969c6-2311-11e4-958c-268a320a60ce_story.html
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea I forgot that whole "invade Iraq" thing happened too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/Z3p9y_OEAdc
pkdrdoom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"On Aug. 8, 2014, Knoller tweeted that Obama had taken 19 vacations totaling 125 days so far while in office. Those numbers have risen a bit due to the Marthaโs Vineyard vacation, but thatโs still many fewer than George W. Bushโs 65 combined trips to his Texas ranch and his parentsโ home in Kennebunkport, Maine, which totaled 407 days at the same point in his presidency."
Even vacationing more doesn't help. The job still drains them.
leastbeast ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:47:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Golfing keeps them younger. Or some other metric.
OnlyRacistOnReddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama has played more gold than W did... A LOT more golf (not that I see an issue with that really).
[deleted] ยท 431 points ยท Posted at 15:37:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
would people believe they probably dye their hair while running that first term, then stop when they get in?
Nyeaustin ยท 634 points ยท Posted at 16:04:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would believe that, but you can really see the change in their faces.
AeAeR ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:58:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Their faces are a lot more wrinkled and droopy, but what gets me is the eyes on both Presidents. They both look like they've seen so much shit, that ambitious glimmer is just gone.
[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 16:53:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They also aged 8 years. That does alot when you're already old.
turd_boy ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:37:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I keep thinking, think about how you looked when you were 8 then when you were 16 then when you were 24 and so on. The amount of difference is the same just that instead of developing into an adult you deteriorate into an old person.
iamkoalafied ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This doesn't work very well for me because I'm 24 and I look basically the same as when I was 16 except I weigh less. I easily pass for a high schooler still. 8 to 16 isn't a fair comparison because of puberty. But yeah for presidents it is a combo of stress and simply aging 8 years.
turd_boy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:04 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tbh I was the same way, I looked pretty much the same from the time I was 14 until I was in my mid twenties, after that I started to age a bit. But that's not the case for most people, I feel like my point still stands, 8 years is a long time to age and makes a huge difference for most people.
mtbr311 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:59:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 37... I'm not old!
emkill ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:06:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
see you at 45 ... almost 50...
I'l see myself out
CanSeeYou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:24:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see
MC0311x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well I couldn't just call you "Man" now could I??
Benjamminmiller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also a professional portrait vs an action shot.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:31:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, 8 years is almost a decade...I know stress can speed things up, but I think difference between 50 and 60 can be pretty drastic
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:33:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, but at the same time, it's 8 years in a time in your life where you typically start to look older. Obama is 54, Bush was 61.
grumpypenguin1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:44:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well don't most peoples face change after 8 years?
mtbr311 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:00:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not me I'm a highlander.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:38:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE.
mtbr311 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:51:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LIGHTNING INTENSIFIES
DrDew00 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The highland scots don't age?
mtbr311 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn Scots... they ruined Scotland!
hopetheydontfindme ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:49:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not too drastically, but these guys gained some serious wrinkles and paleness
turd_boy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes absolutely, but it's also makeup and hair dye. IN their last term they stop giving a shit about their image because they aren't running again, it really doesn't matter how healthy they look.
Konker101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stress makes you age quicker. 8 years shouldnt make you go from looking lates 40s to late 60s
ThundercuntIII ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:48:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also around the age that age starts to show in men.
BlackWhispers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But black ain't supposed to crack!
vickzzzzz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:48:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean it's the US president! The job is gonna be demanding and take a toll on their bodies. No wonder there is such a huge difference.
minker920 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:50:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would you believe they probably have plastic surgery while running that first term, then stop when they get in?
Subalpine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
also I mean, in that bush photo, one is photoshopped, and the other isn't..
sxdesu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:51:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you can't dye your face. Is what u/Nyeaustin is saying.
feralcatromance ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years is a long time. People age.
a-dark-passenger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:26:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would you believe that they are doing botox while running that first term, then stop when they get in?
carpediembr ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:32:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That, I wouldnt
Drummcycle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:43:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would you also belive that 8 years in your 40s had passed . Hmmmmmmm
fordr015 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:47:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree here they are already in their 40s and then 8 years pass. Eight years ago my dad had almost not great hairs now he looks old as fuck.
Benjamminmiller ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lucky guy. My Dad had almost great hair and now he's dead.
fordr015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
R.I.P in piece
beelzuhbub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One is a candid photo and the other is professionally done too, most likely with make-up/cosmetics.
tinygiggs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:18:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I completely believed that about Obama. Likely because of my age at the time, it was just the first time I'd really thought about it. So, when people mention his now gray hair, I've been "meh" about it.
This comparison is far different. He has aged, and he's tired, and it isn't about his hair.
ATXBeermaker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:50:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People also need to remember that this is over 8 years of the time in most people's live when they really begin to show their age. I mean, I get that the presidency is stressful and all, but I'd like to see some comparisons with regular people between the ages of 54 and 62 (or 47 and 55 in Obama's case).
I_fking_luv_sluts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:40:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They definitely do.
The appearance of youth suggests vibrancy, health, and energy; which helps in efforts to be elected.
Grey hair projects age, patience, and wisdom.
powercow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:54:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh for sure.. for sure.. a bit harder to hide the wrinkles. And well.. we have the same evidence of this going back to lincoln. and that bush pict is BS. Its a pict from his website
this is bush in 2001
cs_major ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:05:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would think they would want to appear as young as possible during elections to appeal to younger voters.
Qis4Question ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:13:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Regardless of how "good" you are a president, the stress is immense. This is just like any other high paying job (management, engineer, scientist, welder, etc). The stress it applies to a person physically, mentally, and emotionally all are paid out in salaries. Most people can't or wouldn't want to do those jobs, so the job gets a better salary.
So, it's not just the president, but a whole lot of other people that end up looking like this.
ItSpoiler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:22:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Just like any other high paying job" Being the most powerful person in the free world...
Qis4Question ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your point? I would argue that those who invest money into companies would be more powerful than the president since this is the free world. A consumer based economy only lasts if it has a strong middle class. Few countries have thrived on anything but capitalism, and money is a key driver to the system. If you have few people who invest money, they become critical in new technological developments that are critical for a country to be "the most powerful" which in turn makes its leader "the most powerful person"...when in reality the economy of a country dictates the power of said country not the person leading it. Sure, deploying emergency troops and what not is power, but it isn't the source.
rg44_at_the_office ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:24:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The POTUS is not the most powerful person in the free world.
thehappyheathen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Care to offer an alternative? I personally don't see any. I think being the commander in chief of USA's military is worth being in the top 3, at least. You might be able to argue Putin, but his nation's economy is suffering for his personal decisions, and Merkel has a lot of dissention in the ranks.
efexx1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:42:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Head of NRA? :p not even Obama can do anything about him.
thehappyheathen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:59:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read this as "Head of the NSA" and was frightened for a moment cause I haven't checked the news today.
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That too.
Anrh43 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:43:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Xi Jinping, Putin are far more powerful and have nowhere near the checks and balances as POTUS.
thehappyheathen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But both of their countries are in the midst of very bad economic times. America is coming out of its recession as Russia and China enter new downturns.
rg44_at_the_office ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just about anyone in the 3 comma club;
http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/#version:static
Sure, POTUS is commander in chief, but that doesn't mean he can just point the US Military where ever he wants. He has to go through a lot of bureaucracy every time he wants to get something done. Billionaires don't, they can just spend however they like, and have enough money to convince other people to believe whatever they want.
thehappyheathen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The estate tax should be so much more severe. I know there are several on this list that acquired their wealth in one lifetime, but seeing 4 Waltons in the top 20 is sad to me. You can see the Mars family in the 20's. I can't even imagine the lives of people this rich, and they can't understand mine. I think it's a real danger for the millions of us whose lives they impact, but do not necessarily appreciate or even understand. Do you think the Waltons on this list have ever eaten the lunch meat they sell at Walmart? have they ever worn a pair of socks from their own store?
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:51:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed.
rg44_at_the_office ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This might help. But you're right, they live lives so wildly different lives than us that it is really impossible to comprehend. They might as well be living on a different planet because it is impossible to have that kind of money and understand what the world looks like for the rest of us.
thehappyheathen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for sharing that- very interesting read. I remember some documentary I watched made by one of the heirs to the Johnson & Johnson fortune called "Born Rich," but it wasn't framed like this. I kinda wonder if these people think about sharing their money. Obviously, Bill Gates has thought about it, Warren Buffet as well. It could be interesting to see what kind of a world we live in after Buffet passes, whether his charity will change anything.
rotzooi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A candidate's looks are much more important than any sensible person would like them to be, but that seems to be human nature.
I don't have the time to Google and link it, but last election there were a number of posts about this and the one I remembered best is that there is an extreme correlation (80 or even 90%) between the amount of hair on a (male) candidate's head and their chances of winning the Presidency.
buckX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1st election strategy: Young, dynamic bringer of change
2nd election strategy: Experienced, dependable font of wisdom
Knownot_Gaming ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:15:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would also believe that people change a lot in 8 years.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hair is the least of it..... What about their faces?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:46:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
to me the hair is the easiest thing to see change without the possibility of it being heavily photoshopped, or just happen to be looking tired, you could search the video from his latest speech and find a shot of him NOT with his eyes half shut, give the image a bit of softness and he would look way better, the first image looks like its been softened or noise reduced in post to look younger to make his older self look worse, but the hair color probably fixed IRL with dye
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:56:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That makes sense. Point.
But that's also a lot of years between the photos if it's genuine. Even if these particular frames were chosen to show how crappy that job may feel, and were compared specifically..... Hell, I feel tired if I know I have to talk to my daughter's teacher.... She started kindergarten in September.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
right so the difference in a photo between Tuesday just after you won free pizza on the radio, and a photo of you hearing or reading that you have a parent teacher interview are going to show drastically different versions of your face
neubourn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, Carly Fiorina is definitely a dye job.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Carly Fiorina looks like the villain in a Bioware game to me.
lurker_lurks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This and make up for a portrait vs no makeup snapshot.. also going form 54 to 62 is not easy on anyone's looks.
Lildrummerman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're running, you're 48 years old. You want to reach out to the youth so you dye your hair to look younger. When you get into office, people prefer a little bit of grey. They want someone established to be in charge, they no longer need a young fit candidate but a wise and comforting president.
m703324 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just in this case it's also that one is a posed studio photo with full makeup and editing. second is a snap pic in daylight. For same reason celebrities look much better on publicity pictures than paparazzi snaps. Also 8 years and hair dye
fielderwielder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would think they wouldn't dye their hair because some white hair makes you seem experienced and stately, no?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
once you are in, or running again yes
CentralCityPDX ยท 145 points ยท Posted at 15:51:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
from hopeful on the left, to...'my dear god what the hell are we doing? they'll murder me if i say one word about any of it'
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:44:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good ol Rumsfeld and Cheney?
A_Dog_Chasing_Cars ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:18:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure stress is a big part of it, but going from 54 to 62 is a visible change for most people, regardless of the job.
Nomadicghost ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:00:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorta looks like will Ferrell in 2000
buttcupcakes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:06:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean he was one of the top Will Ferrell impersonators of his time
umopapsidn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:24:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I personally believe his impressions of Ferrell on SNL got him elected.
Warqer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Link?
umopapsidn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
None, Ferrell portrayed Bush on SNL a lot and I was just making a joke.
Warqer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh.
keith_HUGECOCK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:22:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can someone make one for a dictator as a parody one? Maybe Hitler or Stalin?
donall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:23:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but they were in power for decades
keith_HUGECOCK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:29:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but as dictators did decades have the same till as 4 years of presidency? Or because they had total power were they less stressed over maybe a a decade than US presidents are over 4 years?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:36:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Well, I mean, the stuff isn't without its side effects...
http://www.usor.com/files/pdf/4/Jet%20Fuel%20-%20SDS%20941%20-%20130709.pdf
n_s_y ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:39:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it is side effects
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. Fixed.
LegacyLemur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:36:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like everyone needs to remember that you can age a lot on 8 years regardless of profession
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, crazy. He looks like he aged 20 years.
Blu_Phoenix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like the grey hair has a lot to do with it.
StargateMunky101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just for men can get in on this and make MILLIONS!
zijital ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From 2002 & 2008 State of the Union. (Wish I had higher res photo.)
Bush was elected President in 2000 (which might be why your 2000 photo of him looks so young), but didn't hold office until 2001. His first State of the Union was in 2002, a year into office.
donall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:32:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
2001 did the damage
zijital ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:41:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably most of the damage was from the four months from September until January.
Or maybe it was the fact that the men in D.C. don't wear boots & the women don't have big hair that did the damage.
BowsNToes21 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:43:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seeing that smirk again made me realize how much I miss him.
zijital ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:58:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If that's really true, you need to track a copy of this down: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0312848/
If you're lucky, you have a good local library & can get it through their system.
edit: Even if you're trolling on how you "miss him," you should still watch the doc. It's really well done.
BowsNToes21 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:12:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Will do. This part of one of the reviews just sold me.
Say what you want about him but I always felt as if we could weather any storm under that guy, he just had a presence about him that everything would just work out.
zijital ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:20:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've shown the doc to people who loved & people who hated Bush, and the most common reaction was "Yes! That's exactly why I ____ him."
To me, I think that's a sign of a good doc.
I heard that Pelosi originally just started taking some video to show her friends / family what her job is like. Then people started joshing her like "Oh, the NBC Producer is making a movie... hahaha." And she was like, hell, why not. So she bought about 100 video tapes & kept rolling.
After the campaign, she quit her job & spend a year (or more) going through it all to make it into something watchable (and IMHO, it's a lot better than most of the docs I've seen on Netflix / Amazon / etc.).
JayceeThunder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
damn.........
whomadethis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not to say he didn't age a shit ton, but the 2000 image is a touched up portrait while 2008 is a candid press shot
HanginWithDaleCooper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That seems more like the stock photo they used during the 2000 election actually shot in 1991.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, he had to deal with the guilt of orchestrating 9/11 and a long costly war based on "Terror"
EverDares ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Made me think of this Abraham Lincoln comparison from before becoming president and 7 years later just before being assassinated.
powercow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
that one is horseshit..
He still aged incredibly.. but not that much, here is bush adressing congress on 911.. 8 months into his presidency
and here is another link of a bunch of presidents.. you cna see bush on top.
he aged a lot but that picture is 1000% horseshit. Oh and here is bush
and last if still dont believe cause that one pict was after 911.. here is bush and gore at the debatees
that pict of bush is from the 90s..
sap91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kanye sucked the life outta him
bury_the_boy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
god, he was an idiot
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In his defense, black don't crack. But white certainly does.
DidJohnDieAtTheEnd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
911 upvotes on this comment, what an unusual coincidence
egotisticalnoob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama did pretty well compared to Bush.
larryr4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bush did 9/11
janus_marine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he looks sad :(
098706 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now I want Ted Cruz to get elected, and re-elected, just so I can see his crappy face get worse.
ginger_vampire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that's why I don't want to be president.
break_card ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL people get older
TokyoJade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man if you think that's bad, you should see the before and after pictures of JFK!
The_Puppetmaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Warning: It's a cesspool of hate the farther you go in these comment chains.
deplorable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was curious to see if most of those changes had occurred within the first two years of his presidency (i.e., after 9/11). Sure enough, Dubya in 2002.
Hot_Fist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just for men, then just for apathy.
JewInDaHat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It could be worse NSFL
YoungGunEsq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn
potsandpans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
still blows my mind that dude was a 2 term presideny
Danimaltanimal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i really think its the age range too though. Thats probably the age where men start looking like old men.
AndHerNameIsSony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
9/11 not even once
Gyrant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, and this is the guy who spent half his first term playing golf.
vadarpoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:43 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn Bush was kind of a hottie
halibutjamminsalmon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:04 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're comparing a photo with professional lighting, hair, and makeup with a candid photo where he's not even smiling...
donall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:24 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the first thing that came up on Google when I looked up before and after , there is tons of other pics which are probably better examples
weeaboo_j0nes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:47 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you realize jet fuel can't melt steel beams
pm_your_netflix_Queu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:23 on February 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel a bit less bad about that.
PonkyBreaksYourPC ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:32:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that shit was dyed back in 2000 lol
[deleted] ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 15:04:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even the podium looks older.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:29:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is older.
Hq3473 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the flag pin.
DigiornoBane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:13:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a lectern, not a podium
getlaidanddie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also the mic has shrunken.
zykezero ยท 1565 points ยท Posted at 14:31:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No fuckin joke.
dngu00 ยท 1812 points ยท Posted at 14:35:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that one ended differently
zykezero ยท 544 points ยท Posted at 14:37:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
after looking at lincoln in the "after" picture, I'm starting to think that he was just doing him a favor.
xizzy7 ยท 802 points ยท Posted at 14:49:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too soon
[deleted] ยท 644 points ยท Posted at 15:00:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
ManstoorHunter ยท 480 points ยท Posted at 15:07:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But in my heart it's only been 2 weeks.
Anivair ยท 207 points ยท Posted at 15:13:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone hears about it for the first time every day
Brokenshatner ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 15:42:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every day
Badvertisement ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:21:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot to say "relevant xkcd"
jab296 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
except its not a relevant xkcd if the person before is specifically referencing that xkcd comic
logicalmaniak ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:53:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lincoln's dead? When did this happen? Why does nobody tell me these things?
mkr7 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:28:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man. We're going to the grocery store.
TheDrode ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:05:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
10,000 people hear about it for the first time everyday.
0OOOOOO0 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:34:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone in the world should know about it by now
jhydra123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:42:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How Can Abraham Lincoln Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real
mrm00r3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the odds that they're North Korean go up with that.
TheJunkyard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah... poor Amnesia Bob.
Anivair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Poor Amnesia Bob
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably not though
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:34:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/ShowerThoughts
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:00:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was actually pretty deep, bro.
SpacemasterTom ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:21:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow dude spoiler alert
meeeehhhhhhh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:25:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every time Lincoln is mentioned, I can't help but remember where I was standing when Pa brought the newspaper back from his three-day journey into town.
Acidmoband ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
Smellmyhand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The 90s were how long ago?!
choikwa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
your heart will go on
sephstorm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WELL THEN YOU ARE LOST!
kamiikoneko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every soccer mom in the Midwest about 9/11 despite not ever having been to ny and knowing noone from the state
cIumsythumbs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So... a fortnight?
kseans8 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:18:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In my heart it feels like four score and something years ago
DuckTub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ayy
bmoreoriginal ยท 259 points ยท Posted at 15:16:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://imgur.com/BAOqF
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:57 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aw, I liked it.
Weekndr ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:10:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IT'S STILL TOO SOON /U/SISONP YOU INCONSIDERATE ASSHOLE!
HaterOfYourFace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/toosoon
PM_ME_WHAT_YOU_GOT ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:10:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember it like it was yesterday
MockingDude ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:26:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too soon
Omnibeneviolent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fourscore + 70 years
jackthecoiner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:33:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Lincoln assassination only recently became funny.
pfx7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about JFK?
ChatterBrained ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:01:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RIP in piece in pepperoni
cerebralfalzy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RIP in pepperoni in pepperoni
ponycar10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1 soon
54456778 ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 14:58:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was a cheap shot
fournameslater ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 15:09:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what went through his mind at the time.
shmaylob ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:12:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least he went out with a bang
USOutpost31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alas, The show must go on.
JAYDEA ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:38:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quit playing you guys.
Lost-My-Mind- ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:04:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why don't ya hit me with your best shot?
zfancy5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lamar Odom almost did.
WellHelloMittens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that was lead?
Tomarush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was a bullet...
arclathe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:04:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like a fresh Walker in both pics.
chu248 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:50:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually possible they did! If he had Marfan Syndrome, he would have died soon anyway. I guess people are skeptical that he did, so maybe not.
epochellipse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:08:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe if they had combed his hair back down over the wound
RealLifeIsJustCGI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
killing zombies and vampires is exhausting work!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:59:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After playing his part, I'm sure that Lincoln was 100% ready to lay his burdens down.
GlazedDonutGloryHole ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:18:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shot fired!
Chris_Jeeb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DONT STOP!.... .... ..... ...... Associate Producer MICKIE REUSTER
skemp311 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be too sure, he's got just over a year and millions of batshit crazy Republicans!
SchuminWeb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still, he really aged in four years. I suppose that the Civil War would do that to a person.
mikeofhyrule ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
are you taking a shot in the dark, or are you sure.
TouchDownBurrito ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:50:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it ended with a bang.
ski843 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:20:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We've still got time for some racist from Texas to show up to the party.
GeneralStrikeFOV ยท 337 points ยท Posted at 15:03:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the first picture, he looks like his greatest wish is to become a real boy.
HanlonsMachete ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:22:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the last one, he looks like his greatest wish is to go back ot being a toy.
Bananawamajama ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:34:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The reason he grew a beard in the first place was because a little girl told him to, as his chin looked ugly
Shapaklak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bro... Laughed my penis off at this Hahahaha!
el_fucko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...like Moochie.
userbelowisamonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cheekbones for dayz
RA2lover ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:15:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He wanted to be a real doll...
[deleted] ยท 276 points ยท Posted at 15:00:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair Lincoln probably had one of the most stressful presidencies ever.
u-randoh12-is-a-cunt ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:49:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FDR and maybe LBJ are up there too.
thehappyheathen ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:44:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LBJ is a little less sympathetic, I think. I'm not a historian, but what I've seen in the Fog of War and read seems to suggest the Vietnam war could've been avoided. I don't think the Civil War could have, there were cracks in the American foundation that had to play out.
CrankLee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:16:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When's the next one? We seem to be building bridges over new cracks that are slowly becoming craters
thehappyheathen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I think the more interesting question is which states will take which side, or sides? The Civil War had clean boundaries in part due to the Mason-Dixon line. You had a war front before the war. If another American Civil War started, you would have more ragged lines, and cities standing isolated on the wrong side in some cases.
I'm thinking of the Las Vegas, NV; Austin, TX; and Moab, UT kind of places - little dots of blue in red seas.
Sick-Shepard ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:06:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would like to see a story a scenario of a soon to be Civil War. Like what would cause it, who would be on what side, and even the split in the military would be interesting, if there even would be one.
What other countries would be involved? How many sides would there be? How would the internet be affected? How long would it last?
thehappyheathen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:38:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It sounds like you've thought about it a lot. Why not write your own version and share it? It could become a popular short story or novel.
machton ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:54:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How cool are you? Bravo for encouraging someone to create.
Sick-Shepard ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:41:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is not a bad idea. I'll try it, if not just for something to do. Thanks!
machton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you do, I want to read it!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just so you know. Fort Worth, San Antonio, Houston, El Paso, Dallas, and Brownsville are are relatively liberal. They are gerrymandered, but pretty blue.
Houston's just replaced it's lesbian democrat mayor who maxed out her terms with a democrat black man. States with actual cities with people in them are pretty purple.
Birmingham, Alabama? The largest city in the state and it has less people in it than many suburbs of actual major cities. They can't dilute the rural folks' power.
thehappyheathen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I've been to Texas several times, but I didn't know any of this. Thanks for filling in some gaps for me. I never would've viewed Texas as purple.
ArtSchnurple ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:24:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My blue dot was instrumental in getting Obama into office. It really does drive home the fallacy of the blue state / red state idea.
thehappyheathen ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:37:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So was my blue dot (Denver,CO). I think a part of it is gun ownership- look at these militiamen in Oregon- or the Bundy Klan. There is a notion that outside the cities, there are vast empty areas controlled by a few rednecks with guns. The rednecks with guns might be the one telling that story, but that gets missed.
Gods_Righteous_Fury ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:25 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure the American National Identity is far to ingrained in the psyche now to really have that divide. I mean, I could be abhorrently opposed to something, say Bernie Sanders says but I wouldn't kill someone over it. I wouldn't kill Donald Trump if he got elected, cry myself to sleep every night for sure but not be pushed to violence.
Even Black Lives Matter is really pacifist at it's core. And the hardcore of the Militia movement aren't really followed very seriously and they aren't even talking about violence. Just armed civil disobedience which is hardly different than open carry marches and stuff like that.
MOAR_cake ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:13:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LBJ didn't start the Vietnam war. But he was a bully of a man.
thehappyheathen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:46:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He may not have "started" it, but he started the air strikes and combat operations that became the portion of the Vietnam War everyone remembers. The late 60's and early 70's was the time of the draft, war protests, and the greatest loss of life.
u-randoh12-is-a-cunt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:27:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps. Kennedy did not seem likely to go, though he didn't start it. Also I say that because he did shortly after leaving office.
ballercrantz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He inherited vietnam.
thehappyheathen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would disagree with you there. Technically, we had military advisors in Vietnam before the Gulf of Tonkin, not combat troops. I would say that if LBJ inherited it, it was his decision to escalate it from a 'cold war' to a conventional, boots-on-the-ground, Americans-dying-by-the-hundreds war.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was already an actual war when the French were defeated. The Vietnam War was a bad idea to 2016 eyes, but we really thought communism was going to fuck up the planet as a country back then. Look at the brutality of China and the USSR on their people. Nobody could have predicted communism's life cycle of decline and failure. It turns out when people don't have much to work for, they don't work, and shit then falls apart.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Up there certainly, but man. Just in a different stratosphere. To be President of the United States when the United States is at war with itself. That's insanity. FDR and LBJ presided over huge conflicts, but at least conflicts in far-away places.
u-randoh12-is-a-cunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great point.
Bojenkins ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:44:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and probably marfan syndrome
Okieant33 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:45:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who had it worse? Lincoln or FDR?
SomeDumbHaircut ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 15:51:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's no right answer but I'm gonna say Lincoln had it worse. They both faced unique challenges but most of the country loved FDR. Pretty much everybody hated Lincoln until he died.
DrunkRobot97 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 16:07:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I guess FDR fighting against the Japanese and Germans had it better than Lincoln fighting what were his own countrymen (countrymen fighting for a barbaric practice, but countrymen nevertheless). To this day, the ACW has killed more Americans than all wars since then combined.
justanavrgguy ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 17:04:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The countrymen were fighting for states' rights. The most radical right was slavery, but how do we know it wouldn't have ended in a few years anyways?
DrunkRobot97 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:10:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Judging that they seceded from the nation in order to avoid ending it, I'm guessing somewhere in the region of 'Not Bloody Likely, If We Can Get Away With It'.
justanavrgguy ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 17:15:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We don't know that for sure. Human beings are terrible but who's to say they would've kept the slaves? Maybe the North would've banded together with other nations and put a trade tariff on them and the need for slaves would've diminished.
monsterbreath ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:38:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, the world didn't care that much about slaves then. Even though international slave trading was illegal in most leading countries and slave ownership was illegal in many countries, slavery was still pretty widespread at the time.
OneDoesNotSimplyPass ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:39:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Why are we talking about this like anything justifies slavery for any amount of time?
Besides, it's much better for civil rights that their rights were violently obtained through a deep yearning for equality rather than just being phased out because they were less "useful" (god, trying to say that out loud made me feel like I was chewing on shit).
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because there are still Americans alive who call it "The War of Northern Aggression." Disgusting.
seattleque ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:54:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you haven't get and read Team of Rivals. It's a great history book about his political rivals and making them part of his cabinet. Some became his closest allies...
HanlonsMachete ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 16:23:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lincoln. Hands down. Fighting a war where every bullet kills a man from your country has got to be harder than one where it's only every other bullet or so.
And I certainly do not mean to discredit FDR in any way by that. His term was right up there with Lincolns. But I think Lincoln had it worse.
quarentinebsaccount ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:42:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus the civil war had the added political gordian of reunifying the country. It is astonishing that the nation congealed together at all after the sort of carnage that happened.
I wish Lincoln could have had the chance to be a peacetime president too :(
HanlonsMachete ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:55:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obligatory "You mean the War of Northern Aggression...?"
Some of them are still fighting it down there.
csbob2010 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Well Johnson gave the rebels back all their land, they were only one execution for the entire south, all were given pardons. The ownership of land and government didn't change at all in the south, but the Federal government gained the upper hand so they couldn't do all the bullshit again. It's not really astonishing, the southerners didn't lose anything.
sacrecide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
except georgia
csbob2010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was during the civil war, not the reconstruction.
sacrecide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, but it caused deep resentment in the south that persists to this very day.
csbob2010 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The South can't exactly take moral high ground on ethics. When talking about the reconstruction, the same elites that started the Civil War ended right back in power after being given pardons by Johnson. Freed blacks position didn't change, and all the white land owners were given back their land. They can be mad all they want, but the Federal government could have brought the hammer down on them and been justified. They could have executed all of them if they wanted, or just the elite/leaders. They could have given all their land away to free blacks but didn't. Their complaints come off as entitled and they got off easy.
Plus, Sherman was a big reason the North won the war, or at least didn't prolong it unnecessarily. He knew they needed to destroy the Southern infrastructure to stop resupply and support. Ending the war quickly was the objective. It can easily be argued that Sherman's campaign shortened the war and saved lives. It also allowed him to operate deep behind enemy lines without support, and had close to the same objective that Lee used in Pennsylvania.
sacrecide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
morality is not black and white and I see no point in arguing over which side was more moral. If someone killed your family because your government supported slavery, then you would be pissed.
Let us not forget that a minority of white southerners owned slaves and a majority of white northerners and white southerners were racist.
csbob2010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, but the point of history is to look at the big picture and make observations. I can say slavery was immoral, and ending the Confederacy quickly was worth it for the Union and it's all it's people. I can prove that easily.
sacrecide ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No you cant, it is a moral argument which, by definition, has no basis in fact. Additionally morality has been fluid over time. For these reasons, historians refrain from making moral judgments.
If you want to have an argument on the morality of scorched earth campaigns, we can. They are specifically banned by the Geneva conventions if they target civilian food supply or water.
That being said, I dont believe that the Union or the Confederacy were morally just by todays standards. They both committed terrible crimes, be it slavery or scorched earth campaigns.
The confederacy had the opportunity to run such a campaign in maryland during the beginning of the war, but didnt. Why didn't they?
The south certainly lost a lot during the war. Denying that is extremely disrespectful to Americans in general.
csbob2010 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:49:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never said Sherman was morally justified, I said it was probably worth it because it ended the war, instead of adding 300k more bodies. I will however say that slavery and the position of the South was immoral, making Shermans decision a better option than risking the South maintaining their slaves. I'm not getting into the philosophy and verbal masturbation of moral arguments and all that, just being realistic.
sacrecide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But you are making a moral argument. What else does worth it mean?
csbob2010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Value of human life. Shermans tactics(scorched earth)were worth what the pay off was( less dead soldiers, and an end to the war).
MadamGunner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with it being Lincoln, but FDR had the Great Depression AND WW2
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:46:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's tough but I'd go with Lincoln. FDR faced one of the greatest crises in American history AND WWII, but Lincoln had to deal with the country attempting to destroy itself.
Hedgehogknight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am not sure about that. Of course major events took place happened during his presidency, but he did not have the kind of constant 24 hour exposure a modern leader has to face.
TheSchnozzberry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But he only had to preside over half the country?
johndiscoe ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:26:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really, even worse. He had to reunite both sides of the country. When one didn't want to. And he had to keep border states from succeeding, and he had to abolish slavery which most of the population north and south didn't want to do.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is also true. I think strong cases could be made for both presidents.
PM_THAT_BOOTY_GIRL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Are you joking? I thought it was funny, but the replies are making me think you were serious...
[deleted] ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 15:03:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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waitholdit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, worth it.
uncreativewriter ยท 129 points ยท Posted at 14:58:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like Bill Nye the Science Guy in the first picture.
shwag945 ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 15:02:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And his try out for the Grim Reaper in the second.
HanlonsMachete ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Daniel Day Lewis would make a good Grim Reaper.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:17:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now we know what bill nye will look like in 50 years
designgoddess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bill Nye the Science Guy looks like Lincoln.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We know which Bill Nye you're talking about.
BrodyKraut ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:39:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No he doesnt.
SpatialArchitect ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 14:54:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite President... But a very unfortunate looking man.
ginopono ยท 196 points ยท Posted at 15:04:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In his early campaigns, when accused of being two-faced, his response (reportedly) was, โIf I had two faces, would I be wearing this one?โ
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:00:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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synack36 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok that was freaking funny. Thanks for the laugh.
messy_eater ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:20:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If that's true, it's hilarious.
NathanielDoubleyou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:28:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me irl
gelinrefira ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol... self deprecation was one of his trademarks.
u-randoh12-is-a-cunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lincoln was a funny man.
Spruxy ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 14:59:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But the jawline of a Greek God.
umopapsidn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The eyes of G-man
meeeehhhhhhh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:27:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite story is that of his beard. When he was campaigning, a girl (I think she was around 12) wrote him a letter telling him she thought his face was much too harsh, and a beard would help him out quite a bit. That's believed to be the main reason he had a beard the rest of his life.
sp00kyscary ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:30:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was apparently really fit though. When the doctors and close friends present after he was shot stripped off his clothes, they were surprised by his muscular body.
USAFoodTruck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:33:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find it interesting that he is considered people's favorite president today when he wasn't even popular during the time he lived. He almost lost the election of 1864 when it appeared the war was all but won at that point.
Lincoln may be one of the greatest beneficiaries of historical revisionism.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:16:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much purely for keeping together the union and freeing the slaves. Two thing which are extremely popular today but weren't then.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Morning_Star_Ritual ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:27:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Welp, FDR was pretty close.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FDR also loses points for briefly attempting to exterminate the German people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He had these... ape arms.
OneOfADozen ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 15:01:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your favorite president? You do, of course, know that we have private prisons and legal slavery due to Lincoln, right? I know they don't teach this in school, but a little bit of research will show that Lincoln does not deserve your admiration.
zykezero ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:08:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure he does man, crossing a historical figure off for the bad they've done doesn't make their accomplishments any less great.
However you are right, you can not ignore the bad because of the great they've done. It is important to keep history in context.
OneOfADozen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My problem with Lincoln, and to a greater extent, Lincoln worshipers, is that he knew he was making slavery legal. All one need do is look at the wording of the 13th Amendment; it's very, very clear what happened. It offends me that I was taught in school that Lincoln ended slavery because that is simply a blatant lie. Slavery was merely changed from a situation where you went to market to buy slaves, to one where wealthy people made bullshit laws and then convicted people of bullshit crimes in order to keep the slavery trade strong, and the billions of dollars made in America every year from prison slaves proves that the plan worked.
Wolf482 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I recommend you read the Radical and the Republican.
zykezero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with you, I am offended that as a child I was taught a lie, the myth of Lincoln, rather the myth of america.
WitnShit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:21:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We had labor prisons and fully constitutional legal slavery before Lincoln too, you dumbass. As much as Southerners make him out to be a dictatorial autocrat, he never had enough power to change that with a snap of his fingers.
I agree that he wasn't the full on ardent abolitionist he's made out to be, but to say he's not deserving of admiration after maintaining the union through civil war is naive. Few men were willing and even fewer were capable, and he was both.
OneOfADozen ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 15:28:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dumbass? Go fuck yourself you stupid fucking piece of shit. The entire fucking argument is that Lincoln ended fucking slavery when he did nothing of the sort, you ignorant, blithering fucking idiot.
SpatialArchitect ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:38:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You came out of nowhere assuming I'm a "Lincoln worshipper". Maybe he's my favorite President because he's my height. Maybe I like slavery. Maybe I like the way his fucking name rolls off my tongue. Fuck off, I said he was my favorite, that's it. There's no argument to be made.
WitnShit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:42:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Your argument was, and I quote, "we have private prisons and legal slavery due to Lincoln" which is false, because these existed in America for centuries before Lincoln. In fact, he fought against these unjust establishments and while he may not have achieved full abolishment of slavery, he did more than his fair share. I agree that private prison labor today is still modern slavery and that the 13th amendment allowed slavery to remain as a form of punishment and this should be fixed. It is up to us to continue the fight for full abolishment of slavery in any form whatsoever.
But to argue that Lincoln advocated for these things or was personally responsible for their existence is so willfully ignorant it's beyond comprehension. To say that the preservation of the Union against reactionary corporate forces (which is what the CSA was) whilst establishing the the de jure foundation of the human rights of Africans slaves against those who would keep them as cattle is nothing to be admired is an incredibly stupid statement to make.
If you can muster the few functioning brain cells you have to concentrate on what points are actually being made you might find such discussions less taxing on your emotions.
IsaacM42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
May I ask you what you would have rather seen happen if Lincoln had not been president?
Conkeldurr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:09:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like Daniel Day Lewis.
0fficerNasty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:57:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He OD'd on presidency.
relevantnewman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit! Never knew Bill Nye was a US president
TheCynicalMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but Lincoln did deal with what was most assuredly the most stressful and difficult time in American history. The Civil War ravaged the States in a way that even losing the Revolution wouldn't have.
Jeptic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest, it could also have been due to the vampire and zombie battles. They take a toll
SophisticatedIce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Whoa he looked like my senior drill instructor in the before pic, just with more hair of course...
Morning_Star_Ritual ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was so tired that after the last photo he went to the theater and fell asleep on a bullet.
angryshark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even worse when you realize that he was President for only 4 years. That time in office took an incredible toll on him, mentally and physically. His wife was unstable (and accused of being a Southern sympathizer) and his son passed away quite suddenly when he was in office. He was very empathetic and felt the Civil War casualties on a deeply personal level. This is just the tip of the iceberg. The more you learn about him and what he endured, how and why he did what he did, the more your admiration for him grows, and you come to really appreciate why he is considered our greatest President.
Zebidee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lincoln was a very very weird looking dude.
I've never seen anyone in real life that even came close to what he looks like.
NiggyWiggyWoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He went from Gollum to Yoda.
wew-lad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That first one is really Bill nye right?
Anardrius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lincoln was a weird looking guy.
Vanderrr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like the dummy from Goosebumps.
chacha-haha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would think that just living in the early-mid 1800s would age the hell out of a person. The life expectancy during this time would have been around 35-40. Lincoln was already beating the odds.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think his face looked a little different by the end of his presidency.
tirmanadir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the before picture he doesn't look quite human.
the9mmsolution ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lance Henriksen could've played a good Lincoln.
popsicleinyou2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love that his tie is askew in the second photo.
lil_mac2012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of a video I saw in the early 2000's. It was a colorized photo (I think it was the same photo as the before picture you posted) of Lincoln with Republican printed under it and a picture of Robert Byrd with Democrat written under it. The interviewers then proceeded to walk the streets asking people if they knew the Republican, if they knew the Democrat, and if they had to vote for one or the other who would it be. The sad part is not a lot of people recognized Lincoln without the beard and hat we all have a mental image of. Most (almost all) of the people who didn't know who either person was chose Robert Byrd. So instead of picking the Great Emancipator they picked a former Exalted Cyclops of the KKK based on political affiliation alone. The whole thing was incredibly cringe worthy.
pantstofry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do I kind of see Cillian Murphy in the "before" picture?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True meaning of having "a whole world weight on your shoulders".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he also (probably) had marfan syndrome
MadamGunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that was after only 4 years. Imagine if he was around for the Civil War clean up too
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lincoln looks like how my Grandma aged.
shitsureishimasu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Abraham Lincoln looked like a cartoon character.
A-_N_-T-_H_-O ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was one ugly motherfucker though.
kimbalena ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can we talk about how, in every picture I've ever seen, Lincoln doesn't look like a real person? I can't imagine running into someone with that facial structure like EVER. He looks like he's sculpted out of clay.
๐๏ธ iBleeedorange ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:39:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidentcy, only once.
Abnmlguru ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:54:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well... Occasionally twice.
czhunc ยท 124 points ยท Posted at 14:58:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or twice. But definitely no more than twice.
[deleted] ยท 631 points ยท Posted at 15:23:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this guy injected 4 presidencies
[deleted] ยท 210 points ยท Posted at 15:26:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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comamoanah ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:19:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much. The dude bit off the heads of Nazis live on radio.
pint07 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:07:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except he died.... :\
Lothar_Ecklord ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:32:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He mixed. You never mix drugs. 4 Presidencies should never be speedballed with the Polio
Honestly_Nobody ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:57:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, he was sitting down for a lot of it
allADD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:19:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah if ozzy died as they were interviewing him for VH1
Thatzionoverthere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True FDR was still getting pussy despite having polio and being stuck in a wheelchair. Hell even his girl liked girls, so he was winning to the day he died.
BloomsdayDevice ยท 150 points ยท Posted at 15:48:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And he never walked again!
HamletTheGreatDane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:45:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That joke was lame.
BloomsdayDevice ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:28:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And now you've crippled my self-confidence.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:49:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's official. Taking Presidency is worse for you than Krokodil.
Vajernicus ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:54:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ODed on the last one.
waitholdit ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:00:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And it killed him!
hooolycrap ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:03:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who's that? #notanamerican
MorelloWorkaholic ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:13:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He was the POTUS for 3 complete terms in a row, and died shortly into his 4th. POTUS from 1933 to 1945.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:20:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, or FDR, President between 1933 and 1945, helped us out of the Great Depression and through WWII. One of our greats but is sometimes demonized because of his progressive economic policies. He created Social Security.
Thatzionoverthere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's also the reason why congress passed term limits for the president.
TaylorS1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:33 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because the Republicans were butt-hurt.
Thatzionoverthere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:25 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
So much truth. Even his cousin, alice the daughter of teddy Roosevelt famously said she would vote for Hitler in 1941 than vote for him to get a third term.
Apollo_Screed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A little misleading, as he's only demonized by modern day fascists like the hard right of Fox News. In fact, there was even a fascist coup attempt on FDR by a bunch of oligarchs, Prescott Bush (H.W. and G.W.'s) ancestor amongst the conspirators! Google "Smedley Butler" - he's the guy who blew the whistle on the coup.
sajittarius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just to add what people are saying about Roosevelt. They changed the laws after he was president (can only be president for 2 terms). He is the only president who ever served more than 2 terms. That's probably why OP posted the picture, lol.
USAuthority ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:01:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
doesnt matter if you're not american, you should still know who it is. there's something wrong with you.
Jerlko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean I'm not American and I know who FDR is, but I wouldn't be able to recognize him. I can talk about WWII and the Great Depression, but unless I see his wheelchair the only thing I can rule out is that he's not from the past 20 years, on any money, Lincoln, or Taft.
ObamaBiden2016 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:11:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I here that the political pressure got so bad that he couldn't even walk anymore.
OfficerKen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:08:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He got polio in the White House too I heard
Aedeus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude mainlined a world war.
MockingDude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, he did look like a fucking Ken doll at the start
Boro84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yea, he also had Polio
Remixman87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry I thought you meant Franklin D. Roosevelt, all I see is Robert DeNiro
grizzburger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And a dash of polio to boot.
ThatsRich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He also had Polio.
huntimir151 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With World War II in the mix for that extra kick.
yellowstar_1234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was just going to say, FDR looks the worst from that whole list.
P-Rickles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, that's Becky.
TaylorS1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:46 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FDR literally worked himself to death, He had developed very bad heart disease in the last years of his presidency and there were a few incidents in the year before his fatal aneurysm where he partially or totally lost consciousness in public. His doctors told him to take it easy but he refused to.
__DesignerGenes__ ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea well this guy deserved it, fuck him.
[deleted] ยท 596 points ยท Posted at 14:42:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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btd39 ยท 188 points ยท Posted at 14:56:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least your honest with yourself.
MartLP ยท 415 points ยท Posted at 15:04:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His honest what?
ThatOtherChrisGuy ยท 241 points ยท Posted at 15:18:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His honest with himself
Sir_Dix-a-lot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
made me lol
VanguardDeezNuts ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:15:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We did it reddit!
BRUTALLEEHONEST ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a feeling the guy with the grammar error doesn't know what's going on
Moofisilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least.
halloweenaway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:19:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mentality
WitnShit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
with himself
Partypants93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His honest is with himself.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
selfness
TottenJegger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honest politician. ...ha
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:56:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sour grapes
donall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
name checks out
kernell32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How's your brain btw?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's bad for your skin. It's worse than too much sun exposure. What's the spf for presidential office?
funkngonuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If only your username had been my_brain_explodes, the job would've been perfect for you.
Scizmz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So the 18% mortality rate doesn't do it for you?
getefix ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:17:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You could if you wanted to though
JimmyX10 ยท 2440 points ยท Posted at 15:03:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seeing how badly it ages a young healthy guy
TheGogglesD0Nothing ยท 1683 points ยท Posted at 15:23:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jews argue for leisure. Sanders would probably come out of two terms looking younger.
Source: Jewish
Snowing_Throwballs ยท 365 points ยท Posted at 15:50:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
can confirm. ex girlfriend was jewish.
BowsNToes21 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:42:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any word of advice to someone starting to date a Jewish girl?
Snowing_Throwballs ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 16:46:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are always wrong. and if she asks, matzo ball soup tastes good.
BowsNToes21 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:50:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a challenge.
Snowing_Throwballs ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:53:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck to you sir.
IMSmurf ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:30:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So dating anyone?
Snowing_Throwballs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:35:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, but i'm talking next level shit right here. Debates/arguing became a fucking olympic sport. Not saying its indicative of all jewish girls, but that was certainly the case with my ex.
AccioWine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Matzo ball soup does taste good! I'm not even that Jewish!
Snowing_Throwballs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey man, different strokes for different folks. Im just not a huge fan of matzo, its super bland and has an odd texture. But at least we can agree that gefilte fish is gnarly, amirite?
thebarefitcontessa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, gefilte fish is kinda messed up. And matzo can be really good when prepared correctly :)
Thatzionoverthere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After you get married no more head for you. Literally every Jew i knew stated this. No clue if it's true, but if it is, stock up on the memories.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just asked my coworker, he said it was true. Hm.
Thatzionoverthere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. In here i was trying to get me a jewish gal... luckily i hear israeli girls are different and even more aggressive so time to had to the promised land instead of New york.
BowsNToes21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck that I'd just get a divorce.
thebarefitcontessa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a Jewish girl myself, I have one word of advice:
Reconsider.
BowsNToes21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. Why's that?
thebarefitcontessa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
High maintenance :P
Perhaps I'm biased. I wouldn't date me. Though I know plenty of really great Jewish girls.
go_kartmozart ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:27:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Double confirm; Mom's 92, Jewish and will still kick your arse if you cross her wrong. She says the real secret is her nightly dry martini (with 3 olives; for the vitamins).
DrSuviel ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:20:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not Jewish, like to argue for leisure. I want a Jewish girlfriend.
EltonJuan ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:11:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did it get weird when she argued so much that she started looking underage?
RapperOnDrugs ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 16:17:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
implying she wasn't underage in the first place
DrSuviel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see that username, and I think someone probably needs to take away your video camera.
RapperOnDrugs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bitch don't kill my vibe
Fastbird33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tyga is that you?
Sir_Dix-a-lot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
totally agephobic
IMSmurf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:30:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So a baby?
JagerBaBomb ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm: 24 y/o Jewish friend married 16 y/o girl.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:26:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
can confirm. current girlfriend is Jewish and she's had the same baby face her whole life.
Omnibeneviolent ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:29:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Babies have had the same baby face their whole lives.
DuckTub ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:48:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is some KenM shit
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
she is my babe
RedSkyCrashing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mind blown
trevordbs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best blowjobs ever. Am I right ?
Snowing_Throwballs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Few and far between but yeah, pretty kickass
eaglesfanone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
is she still Jewish?
jestax ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:23:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Funny enough I just made a connection. My great grandparents were Jewish but had converted. That side of the family along with myself are very argumentative. Not in a mean way, just everything is a friendly debate.
Other people get incredibly frustrated when they come to family events.
Not sure if its related at all but that side of the family also enjoys all talking at the same time. 6 people at a table, 3 distinct conversations across different people. It's funny because I never knew it was weird until my wife says how it can be frustrating as well.
hobbitfeet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:35 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just made this connection too! I've always enjoyed what I consider friendly/academic debates. But some people see them as contentious arguments and get all upset.
jab296 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jews don't daydream, because folks are after them and they gotta stay sharp. You know what I mean? They have to be there. They haven't let their minds wonder since Egypt. They just stay sharp. They go, "Who's that? Who are you? What's that? Put that down. What's that over there? Don't do that.
MetalRetsam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh hi John Mulaney.
kupovi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:58:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God damn.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:14:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
can confirm: ran across a Jew who said this on the internet once.
StarEchoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not trying to be a smartass but isn't that like legitimately a thing? Their faith makes sure to take time to have fun?
I feel like I'd only get a really glib and probably wrong understanding out of my Google results...
TheYambag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: I might be part Jewish
u-randoh12-is-a-cunt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:46:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That and go camping.
NextArtemis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:18:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, of course they aren't a fan of camps I'm so sorry
SayceGards ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:20:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most Jewish people I know are too prissy for camping. Unless it's air conditioned. And there's a bathroom.
Source: Current boyfriend and ex best friend/her family
u-randoh12-is-a-cunt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:24:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a shame. Camping is great.
SayceGards ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed, but Jewish people aren't trying to do it.
MC_Carty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now I just want to know the story about the ex best friend.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep in mind old people sleep less anyways.
Convincing_Lies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More "bicker" than "argue", but yes.
/Jewish ex'fiance
Xedma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And complaining is our favorite hobby.
lazerfang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he'll probably come out looking like the Crypt Keeper, and I'm fine with that
ThatLinuxGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was your 1337th upvote. I'm tickled by this.
bonesheen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A jewish man's existence feeds on arguments and turmoil with a dash of ramming your ideas through. Perfect for the White House. I expect we are tacking 100s of years onto this man's life.
source: Jewish as well
Quigglez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That moment I find out I must be Jewish...
Randosity42 ยท 747 points ยท Posted at 15:28:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His age will just overflow and start over at -2147483647
[deleted] ยท 226 points ยท Posted at 15:41:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i thought you were posting a phone number from Dallas for a second
XtremeGnomeCakeover ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 15:56:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He probably did. Call it and find out! Tell them you're a Redditor and ask them about the narwhal!
Also, I may just start using my friends' telephone numbers when I need a random number.
saliczar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:06:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to enter my friends numbers in demo phones at the Verizon store. They work, so they'd get a ton of calls until they either went and deleted it themselves or the demo was replaced.
A-52 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:59:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But when does it bacon?
Subalpine ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:28:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
in 2012
A-52 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:35:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember those days, in fact I remember long before those days. Herds of diggers migrating filled the horizon.
That said I did once organise a reddit meet up where we basically just bought awesome bacon and craft beers. Simpler times.
justanotherfister ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too. Let's try calling it!
penelopepig ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:14:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did anyone answer lol
scarecrow180 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:53:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely not your number, right?
albion_m ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:44:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do they have negative phone numbers in Dallas?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually pretty close to my number... I freaked out for half a second.
PoopyMcpants ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:54:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8675309
mrm00r3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who says he didn't?
mastertatto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is a phone number from Dallas. Go ahead and call it.
Clementinesm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well you're not wrong...
guyAtWorkUpvoting ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:24:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-2147483648. Nobody uses one's complement.
Randosity42 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:04:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Been a while since discrete 1 ;)
TheJackFroster ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 15:59:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking Ghandi.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice meme
scumbagbrianherbert ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:24:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And just like Ghandi, his aggressiveness stat will glitch and overflow, jumping from 0 to 255, nuking everybody.
Hencenomore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
explains Ghandi's sex drive
skyfeezy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:49:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
found the programmer
Gcoks ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:08:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He then starts nuking everyone and everything.
RaptorWarrior ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:51:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found the computer scientist
Nukeashfield ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:46:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he's not Y2038 Compliant!
Rnorman3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the old "ghandi in civ" trick
Aliquis95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:41 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was expecting this comment to be a switcharoo..
Aliquis95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:42 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the old reddit switcharoo-aroo
samon53 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:57:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/Civ is leaking.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Bernie's age is like an unsigned integer on a
6432-bit system. He will live to be 4,294,967,295 years old, and then start over at 0.guyAtWorkUpvoting ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:27:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a standard 32bit unsigned int...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
D'oh. Fixed.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But has he even received two compliments in his entire career?
DoYouEvenThroCodeBro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bro, did you just throw an OverflowException?
Elvegirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta catch it before it crashes the system
cranberry_hole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless he's an unsigned OLD_MAN, which he wouldn't overflow until 4294967295.
ctigers124 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so meta
[deleted] ยท 200 points ยท Posted at 15:24:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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hairlover7980 ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 15:49:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Our life expectancy is also higher by about 5 years since then.
GreenBrain ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 16:57:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
have you controlled for infant mortality?
so_just ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 16:59:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie's not a baby
tirmanadir ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 17:00:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What he's saying is that life expectancy might have only risen 5 years when taking decreased infant mortality into account.
SayceGards ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:20:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it was a joke.
so_just ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:27:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea it was
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think infant mortality is significantly different now than it was in the 80s...
He was kidding.
tirmanadir ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:39:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know, but it was a joke on that general idea. Usually whenever people mention life expectancies from the past, someone always brings up infant mortality.
tree_D ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:06:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...sigh
Schizoid_Llama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know? gOSH
Nimrond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Male life expectancy at age 75 has changed from ca. 9 to 11 more years since 1986 (when Reagan was 75). Even since 1901 male life expectancy at age 75 has only changed by 4.15 years, btw.
GreenBrain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is some fascinating stuff.
TonyWrocks ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 15:58:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hillary is 68, so almost the same age
Mudders_Milk_Man ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 16:06:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And Trump is 69.
2percentGreen ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 17:09:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why couldn't it have been Trump instead of Bowie at 69? Fuck
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:20:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trump didn't party like Bowie did.
wimpymist ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:34:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or have cancer
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:42:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Liver cancer is highly correlated with alcohol abuse, though.
KNueve83 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:17:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about Apprentice abuse?
ekpg ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:31:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow I thought he was like late 50's early 60's
KNueve83 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:18:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rich 50 is like poor 30.
[deleted] ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 16:34:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Trump is a beast man. He doesn't drink or drugs. He fucks bitches and gets money. He has a lot of energy and is healthy. One of the reasons he should be president.
pdxscout ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:41:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your second sentence is confusing. Also, your political beliefs are confusing.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 16:46:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just changed part of the sentence
Sherrydon ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:53:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Legitimate username definitely not created to troll
2percentGreen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:08:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you'll continue using this account when Donald Trump is nothing more than a washed up shock jock next year, clinging to relevance with his sassy persona, desperately trying to repair the business relations he damaged in his campaign
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever. He's gonna be the Republican nominee and will beat Hillary in the general election.
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol
whitebandit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:55:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what a fucking square
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:58:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure he doesn't do it because his father or someone else in his family suffered from alcoholism.
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't drugs, either.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, are you a billionaire like he is?
dorekk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:27:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was just making fun of your shitty sentence. Anyway, someone who doesn't drink or do drugs? Sounds like a bore.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His overall lavish lifestyle looks pretty fucking incredible to me. Flying around in a private jet. Model wife. Had one of the highest rated TV show, The Apprentice. Has been in other TV shows as well. Golfs at some of the best golf courses, has a lavish penthouses and gets five star treatment everywhere he goes. I don't see his life as being boring.
Me personally, I like beer and other types of alcohol, so that part would not work for me.
TonyWrocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Um, we can tell
jaspersgroove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course he is.
MissCellania ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:02:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Almost as much difference as in the two Obama pictures.
DivinusVox ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:52:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seven years is a significant difference at those ages. Not to mention women generally live longer than men.
probablymade_thatup ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:39:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll believe Hilary is a woman when she shows us a real birth certificate
EffrumScufflegrit ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:58:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, just almost a decade apart, practically the same thing
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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EffrumScufflegrit ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:43:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey if 6-7 years is almost the same age then i figured it could also almost be a decade
TonyWrocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A: it's a tiny percentage at that age.
B: It's an even tinier difference between life expectancy once you've made it to that age.
C: Meh, whatever. I'm voting for Bernie anyway.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:04:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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EffrumScufflegrit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with you, I don't think you're understanding what my last comment said.
Nimrond ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:45:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which gives her a 7 year longer life expectancy
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:01:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a big difference between 75 and 68
idonotknowwhoiam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:18:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yes. You actually are voting for the vice president, whoever he/she will be.
EDIT: I did not ointend to offend Bernie supporters, because I am myself; however, he is in advanced age, and may eventually find the job overwhelming, or, if he finishes his term, the vice president will have a huge leverage.
crackervoodoo ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:05:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oi vey!
RoboNinjaPirate ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:13:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
cmon Biden. The comedians need more material.
dorekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's nothing actually wrong with a 1-term president. I hope he chooses Warren as his VP, wins, and then Warren runs in 2020.
idonotknowwhoiam ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:18:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. Nothing. I do not like Pocahontas though.
adamsmith93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. Sander's obviously has this in the bag.
ArtSchnurple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amazing other candidates haven't played the age card more often, in that case. They certainly have have before, like with McCain and Bob Dole. I suppose they will in the off chance he wins the nomination.
youthdecay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well Trump is 70 so he doesn't have room to talk.
JD-King ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But people are all living longer healthier lives. The first person to live to 150 is already 60 years old.
rebrownd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sanders would be 77 towards the end of his 2nd year, he seems in fine health
gormster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sanders is older now than John McCain was when we were making fun of John McCain for being too old.
bonesheen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but Carter is 91. Reagan was 93, HW Bush is 91, Ford 93. Other than Reagan who had some sort of dementia They all did fine into their old age. Bernie will be just fine, hes got a lot of good years left.
androidboots ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:42:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reagan
og_nichander ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:48:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, it's spelled Ray Gun.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:03:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Detaineee ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 15:59:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sanders age is the only reason I probably wouldn't vote for the guy.
smixton ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:21:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd rather have a good president who dies in the middle of his second term than a shitty president who makes it all the way through.
Detaineee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you think there's anybody that would prefer a shitty president that goes the distance over a good one that doesn't?
smixton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ummm... that's what I took from your comment above. All candidates other than Sanders is shitty in my opinion.
djb2287 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:03:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ageist
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:14:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sanders is literally only 6 years older than hillary
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:25:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Detaineee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:44:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's too old as well. I don't understand why there's a minimum age for president and not a maximum age.
petalcollie ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:11:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
So his age is such an issue for you that you would rather see Trump as president....? lol
thetapatioman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:23:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
(S)He said nothing about Trump though...?
GreenBrain ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:58:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was that a question? I mean the punctuation is there, but it doesn't seem like a question.
thetapatioman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:20:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ending a sentence with a few periods followed by a question mark, while not technically grammatically correct, is common nowadays in English writing as a means of conveying a sense of confusion. My confusion comes from how you came to the conclusion that (s)he will be voting for Trump based on the fact that (s)he will not be voting for Sanders, due to his age. Would you mind clarifying your deduction?
GreenBrain ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:14:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah. You just don't know how statements work.
thetapatioman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop being pretentious and answer my question.
thetapatioman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or was "Nah." your answer? In which case you would actually be saying that you DON'T mind explaining, yet have failed to do so.
GreenBrain ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:11:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah is my dismissal of your terrible rationalization.
thetapatioman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All that I'm asking is that you rationalize your conclusion because I genuinely don't understand where it came from but you clearly refuse to support your argument so as far as in concerned, we should discontinue this pointless conversation.
GreenBrain ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:17:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You want me to explain to you why your statement isn't a question?
Its not a question (source: any elementary school in an English speaking country).
thetapatioman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think we are on the same page. I want an explanation as to how you figure the person will be voting for Trump when all they said was that they would not be voting for Sanders because of his age.
GreenBrain ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:53:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My comments had nothing to do with your point and everything to do with the super annoying way you wrote them.
CaneVandas ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 15:32:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's start with 4 years and go from there. It's also why we need a quality VP.
iamjustyn ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:22:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sanders / Warren '16
407145 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:36:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
let's do it
USAuthority ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
might as well dissolve the Fed at that point. because the economy isn't ever going to recover from something like that.
no-mad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:48:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
McCain/Palin comeback 2016?
CaneVandas ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:54:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I said QUALITY VP.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:53:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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KNueve83 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:44:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You betcha!
USAuthority ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
who would be Trump's running mate?
CaneVandas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Col Klink?
[deleted] ยท 224 points ยท Posted at 15:13:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now here's a guy who looks like he has experience.
SeanEqualsYes ยท 432 points ยท Posted at 15:22:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now here's a guy that made me read his comment in a John Madden voice.
[deleted] ยท 303 points ยท Posted at 15:32:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Ayo4Mayo ยท 467 points ยท Posted at 15:47:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to AL Gore
laxmotive ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:40:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still salty about that one.
killhimalready ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:49:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OUCH. My global warming!
giskard9385 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:21:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too soon
GeekAndDiscourse ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:08:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh snap!
Upper_belt_smash ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:43:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ouch
downtowneil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:28:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's super cereal, guys!
drunkenviking ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:16:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He never specified that it wasn't electoral votes.
TaylorS1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:36 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HE WAS ROBBED!!! :-(
xXEvanatorXx ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 15:40:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Well said John, the same could be said about the other candidates as well."
cwhite8410 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:20:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man. I haven't heard Pat Summerall's voice in so long and I read that in his voice perfectly in my head.
dispo916 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:37:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Well you see in order to be president you have to be elected. In order to be elected you have to have people vote for you"
GoggleField ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:55:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"If this guy gets more votes than all those other guys right HERE, then he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna BOOM he'll be the next president."
junioroverlord ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:54:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Boom, tough actin', Tinactin!
sublimedyl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:01:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ACE, The helpful hardware place!
Ellimistopher ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:36:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Magic
LarsOfTheMohican ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:55:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that's what that's all about
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or have his daddy's friends on the Supreme Court give you the Presidency
muchgreaterthanG_O_D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More electoral votes.
nerf_herder1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"You know who'd make a great President? Brett Favre. If he could govern the Green Bay Packers to the championship in 1996, he could he could he could, uh, he could lead this country in 2016."
killhimalready ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:45:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now here's a guy who gave me a reason to post John Madden commentary.
JOEYisROCKhard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about John Gruden?
"Now here's a guy with all the tools and experience to be a great President at the NFL level. I love this Politician, man."
ginger_vampire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Boom!
Trogdorocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
aeiouaeiouaeiou. Uuuuuuuuuh. Holla holla get dollar. ?!?!?!?!?! Football! Here comes another Chinese earthquake. Ebrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr yuoiyuoiyuoiyuoiyuoi. 99999999.
ThatLinuxGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"At the end of the day, it's about who goes out there and really wants it more. You want to be able to say, they gave it their all and we gave it our all, and in this case we came out on top. Here's a guy with years of experience under his belt, and you can just tell that he loves to play the game. He loves to win. He's made it more than just his job to get out there and make the plays."
John Madden could provide ambiguous commentary for just about anything.
EntgirI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
USAuthority ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:04:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and yet he's still never heard of economics. really amazing.
hajlajf ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 15:16:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NazzerDawk ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 15:19:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"The establishment" isn't "The US Government".
Maybe you misunderstood that.
hajlajf ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 15:47:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So being paid a very good salary by the US taxpayers for decades doesn't make him part of what he criticizes at all?
Crossfiyah ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:53:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When that's the only money he makes off being a politician, no.
Compare Sanders' net worth to any other 30-year politician in the Senate or House if you want to see the stark difference in income for an honest politician vs. a regular politician.
hajlajf ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:57:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His net worth shouldn't be as high, or he would be talking with two tongues. If he earned the money only for his own sake, why does he purpose enormous tax raises for everyone else? Why is the concept of altruism so impossible for some people to understand...
Crossfiyah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:04:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not, for me.
I was merely arguing that Sanders has not fallen for the political game just because he's been a politician his entire life.
hajlajf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:31:28 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, anyway Sanders would be the nail in the coffin for the US as we have known it. And then no ones net worth will be especially high, so there will be nothing to argue about.
NazzerDawk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:04:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm afraid you are still not understanding.
The "establishment" that we are refering to that he is not a part of is not "the US Government".
When we refer to an "Establishment" candidate, or say that he is not one, we're saying that he is not word-and-deed with his party and isn't in bed with Wall Street like most significant candidates who run for office. That's the establishment that we are against. Obviously we're not talking about the government, he's obviously a strong pro-federal government candidate.
Desarooni ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:19:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hajlajf ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a difference. Compare crony capitalists like Bush or Bombama to Ron paul, for example.
aa93 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:17:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found a rare image of Bernie in 2024
costhatshowyou ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:26:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's a brooklyn-bred jew; he eats deli. He'll be around for another 30 years at least.
(really want some deli now)
flsixtwo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:34:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are we already assuming that he's going to win 2 terms?
General_Dingus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:57:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think we're assuming the republican party won't have their shit together in 4 years.
flsixtwo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:58:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One can only hope.
letsseeaction ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:24:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidents have some of the best healthcare in the world. Look at Jimmy Carter...he just beat cancer at 90 years old.
EarthRester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Immortals don't count.
Crossfiyah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:52:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay this is hilarious.
therabbit86ed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:26:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watch Bernie be the only President to which the aging effects of presidency have no effect on... Some one would need to study him, you know, for an anti-aging cure...
Scizmz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I LoL'd and I'm voting for him.
thelonegraywolf ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:26:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's actually in better health than Hillary, she had a brain surgery done 2 years ago for removing a blood clot.
https://youtu.be/RQZLgLf1GM8
Here's him easily walking past a scuttling reporter
rickrocketing ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:33:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's like the paparazzi for politics
alecreplied ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:42:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Part of me believes that Bernie's work ethic as a Senator will transition well into the White House
Yourponydied ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pollacks age differently. Just like the women are hot as hell but once they hit 44 they get the babuska and look like your grandmother
yinzertrash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
4*
djb2287 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd bet a lot of money Bernie would not seek reelection if he won 2016. Which is finex he wouldnt have to spend te last year and a half campaigning.
HanlonsMachete ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please, that was McCains slogan first.
Solitairee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You cany fuck me up presidency fucked up already
xintox2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LOL....wtf that's not a real campaign message is it?
SinkHoleDeMayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't he just just be reset at 50 or so?
Lurlex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He just has an old "look" to him, the wild Doc Brown hair thing. He's a single year older than Joe Biden, and within five years of both Clinton and Trump.
75 is really not a stretch; President is not a job we typically pick a youngster for. Obama was zeroing in on 50 when he won in 2008, and he was the fifth youngest president ever inaugurated. Reagan, on the other hand, was 2 years older than Sanders is now while still serving his last term.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just looked up Joe Biden's age earlier today, and I can't believe he's 74. That smooth bastard.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:45:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why he needs a good VP. Warren would be best, probably. I'd be okay with O'Malley.
[deleted] ยท 347 points ยท Posted at 15:03:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also a 8 yr difference ppl forget that..
[deleted] ยท 293 points ยท Posted at 15:07:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years is a hell of a drug
Techthefan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So is presidency, apparently
BadassGateway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:47:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And an '8 year Presidency' that's some next level shit bro
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:49:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was addicted to presidency for eight long years bruh. I'll never get those years back, all I can do is keep my head up and keep looking forward.
donall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I took 8 years once... I still have bad flashbacks
Kitty_loveless ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 15:32:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looked like he aged more than 8 years.
tylerjarvis ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:14:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
6 years. First state of the Union would have been after the first year of his presidency, and he still has a year left.
Comrade_Ahab ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 15:57:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya it's also a big 8 years 46 to 54 ages most people a decent amount.
dvaunr ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:59:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years when they're middle aged or older. You don't age too pretty at this point of your life.
Boro84 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:49:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nobody forgets that, that's not 8 years worth of aging
gobeklytepy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:12:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. No, I don't think they do. I think even accounting for that, the prez's age more.
havoc3d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a bit, yeah, not it's not like he looks ludicrously old for his age imo. I mean, yeah, celebrities who take fantastic care of themselves tend to age better, but this doesn't look that far off from mid 40s to mid 50s for your average person.
CholeraButtSex ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:31:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, but he does look older than your average 54 year old.
rjcarr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it 8 or 6? I don't believe you do the sotu on your first or last years? Either way, I think it's 7 at the most.
funkiestj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, lets see some non-president 8 year pictures. E.g. Obama is 54 now so a 46 and 54 picture.
simpersly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eight years ago I could only grow peach fuzz on my face, I had a full head of hair, and wore shirts with ironic or goofy images on the front. Now half of my hair has migrated to the underside of my head, and I haven't purchased a "funny" shirt in years.
Imnottheassman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
7 years
Scizmz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
7 he's got a year to go.
havoc3d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, for some reason it always kind of irritates me whenever someone does these with a "look how much it ages you!"
Yeah...8 years will do that to you. My driver's license picture is from when I was 25 or 26. People don't recognize me in it and i'm 32 now. Age ages you! My hair fell out, I have some wrinkles now, my facial hair is different with some signs of grey. I imagine a picture today compared to me at 40 is going to look a lot different as well.
instant_michael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years....as well as a different type of photo/setting, could have dyed his hair before, less makeup...etc. etc. etc.
I have to imagine you are a lot more worried about your physical appearance when you are campaigning to be president versus your last year of your 2nd term.
ROK247 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yah show me a pic of anyone that's hotter now than they were 8 years ago. no seriously, just send me pics of hot older women please!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:38:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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ROK247 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:53:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's a dude, but yes very hot
The-Town-Drunk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:46:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice try.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:53:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
an* year* people*... come on.... I know you're mobile keyboard was trying to correct all that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Motherfucker.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup.
professional_giraffe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know what english you use but I was certainly not taught that a "y" counted as a vowel for when "an" is needed. I (and the others who downvoted you obviously do also) think that you are not correct.
Source: Native speaker.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Did you just completely miss the "8" or "eight" as it is spelled directly proceeding the "y" in "year".
"An eight year...." not "a eight year...."
professional_giraffe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did miss in in the OP. Your adjustment didn't include it so I read it as "an year" and you might understand how that would have grated the senses when spoken that way. This was what I was referring to. You might want to edit your comment to include the "eight".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't spelling out his sentence. I was correcting his specific words, hence the asterisks.
professional_giraffe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I usually see asterisks as correcting or emphasizing a specific word or to adjust it, not replacing one. I think to correct a word choice one should include the reason for correction, especially given the amount of non-native speakers that are learning english from every comment typed, it is important to be precise. Including the "eight" is important in this specific case.
NeilTysonsChicken ยท 220 points ยท Posted at 15:06:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. The man has fast tracked his life.
I feel for him. At least he isn't some sociopathic leader who can make choices without empathy, stress, or conviction. He has made poor choices, but those grey hairs and that tired, drawn out face tells me that none of these choices were easy for him.
wwwiizard ยท 175 points ยท Posted at 15:31:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's just the difference 8 years makes when you're in your 50's. It will happen to all of us.
mournthewolf ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 16:02:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not when you're rich. He should not have aged that much. This is a guy with access to the best medical care imaginable.
Also he started looking like that just after his first term too. This job has to be a stress nightmare.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:34:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The best medical care imaginable won't do much good with that much stress. Sure, the lines, the grey hair is part of it. But it's the muscles in the face, the expression, the posture. That's what makes him look old.
That is the face of a man who has realized something terrible.
No, I couldn't.
A_California_Guy ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:21:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More like the face of a man who's had thousands of fires to put out for almost a decade, probably a decade plus if you consider how long he's been in politics.
Still, despite the fact that he's been under so much stress that his hair has turned white, it's amazing the kind of longevity ex-presidents seem to have. Bush Sr. is still alive, and he's 91 years old. Hell, Carter is still alive and he looks like a train hit him and kept going.
SpeedyVT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:54:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, I was think testosterone and exercising would reduce the aging. HECK! Arnold look younger than him. Hormone concoctions usually help reduce the aging process.
Djinneral ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:06:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hes not rich, but he will be afterwards
Oomeegoolies ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:26:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't ex presidents get ridiculous fees for giving lectures and stuff?
Djinneral ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:27:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's when the money really starts rolling apparently.
m1a2c2kali ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:20:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea a 400k salary makes one rich anywhere in the United States, and that doesn't include his perks
Djinneral ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:23:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
damn, guess he's rich then, I assumed he had a similar salary as "Call me Dave" David Cameron.
DumbledoresFerrari ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:44:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say ยฃ140,000 also makes you rich
Hollowplanet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:00 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He made millions off his books.
dorekk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:19:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama was pretty wealthy before he took office, from sales of his book, I believe. Before his book he was no wealthier than any middle-class dude who owned a house, though.
sharkbait_oohaha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He and Michelle earned like $1.3M the year before he took office.
Lost-My-Mind- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:08:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You stand corrected
Nlorant ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:34:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Studies show that the stress of being president ages someone about double the normal rate
AdamBombTV ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:43:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not me, I've got Benjamin Buttons deal
Dire87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:27:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Problem is, this started showing after only the 1st or 2nd year being president. His hair seemed to instantly go "nope, no more colour for you, bitch".
SerLaron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:35:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure if you would compare the aging rate of actors and presidents, you would see a difference.
ruiner8850 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actors also have plastic surgery and have excellent makeup artists. Most of the time when you see actors they aren't even close to the real thing.
SomeKindOfChief ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not I. I Asian.
NeilTysonsChicken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's only been in his 50's half of those years, and this is still abnormal compared to others who take remotely good care of themselves in their adulthood. It's more than just grey hairs, there looks like a lot of other negative physiological changes pushed things along much quicker.
6tacocat9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mmm I don't think so.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:35 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except Brad Pitt or Keanu who have both made pacts with the Devil to live forever.
mortedarthur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:20 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh ok, cool. so at least we don't have to empathize with him or anything.
thespiralmente ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not always
AShinyTorchic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:29:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're looking way too far into it. It's an 8 year difference, quite a lot of physical changes happen in 8 years
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:32:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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LupinThe8th ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:42:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He had to choose between Cocoa Pebbles and Fruity Pebbles every day. Laura wouldn't let him have both.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:00:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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flamboyantsensitive ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:44:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Portrait. Attic. Sociopath. Need I say more?
A-_N_-T-_H_-O ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:55:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop , no. It's called getting old.
ThinkFirstThenSpeak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's certainly a matter of opinion. His history of being a serial drone murderer suggests otherwise.
andythetwig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:36:00 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Premature aging is a small price to pay for going down in history as the first black president.
BEAVER_ATTACKS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was a good president.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He deserves it for being a mass murderer
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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m1a2c2kali ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:51:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think they will both be looked at as great presidents
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:19:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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NeilTysonsChicken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what you took away from that?
Also, I think you're confusing racist assholes with Sociopaths. Super rude.
BlackWhispers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:29 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, I took away that you're projecting a greater meaning into wrinkles and gray hair.
BlackWhispers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:29 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, I took away that you're projecting a greater meaning into wrinkles and gray hair.
Diamond_In_The_Back ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What poor choices?
N6Maladroit ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:49:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure having the most cooperative group of people to work with has zero to do with it.
๐๏ธ iBleeedorange ยท 288 points ยท Posted at 14:42:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm sure some facebook group will say Obama does Meth because of these pictures.
MartianDreams ยท 688 points ยท Posted at 14:56:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drugs are haram silly
illiterati ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 15:03:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you're saying Obama is a bad Muslim?
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:13:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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eddydrizzle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:01:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
T U R K I Y E < 3
rabsi1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:30:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TATU HARAM OZIL YOU BAD MUSLIM
luqskywalker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:21:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
<3 TURKIYE <3
Boatfucker ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:37:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
r/soccer is leaking
Anivair ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:14:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hear being a Christian is, too. Weird rules.
yoitsthatoneguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is hashish halal?
Falcon_Cunt_Punch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol you can't say that.
MartianDreams ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:18:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
R u the nsa
Falcon_Cunt_Punch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:20:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm actually the illuminati.
moldysandwich ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:44:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like, in its entirety?
Fruitfi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:12:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the hacker known as illuminati
Falcon_Cunt_Punch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
moldysandwich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well with a name like /u/Falcon_Cunt_Punch, I can't argue with that.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:57:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe one day.
Sataris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:21:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what they all day
epochellipse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:09:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AND WHY IS HE LEFT-HANDED NOW
๐๏ธ iBleeedorange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
New lizard underneath the skin
ImPinkSnail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let me guess, they are birthers too.
Balthanos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, but it looks like his masters whooped the black right out of him. He could pass for an old Italian man.
rickrocketing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have any before and after photos as you acquired more and more karma?
headphones_J ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to say that it was true, he really was replaced by a lizard-man shape-shifter, or a left handed doppelganger from a mirror Earth...but meth is a pretty good explanation also.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weed at least, looks pretty stoned to me
Old_man_Trafford ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Crack*
Skittle-Dash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean:
B-Rock 'THE ISLAMIC SHOCK' Hussein Superallah Obama
ForgedIronMadeIt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, the fine shitheads at /r/conservatives posted this as "what being a hateful demagogue does to a man"
Bior37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People seem to forget that there were equally insane things said about Bush...except they made them to mainstream tv.
Indyfan89 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama doesn't do anything except ruin the country
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:12:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years will do that to anybody.
Unmormon2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:20:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meth
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:26:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not ever
beholdthewang ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:04:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like senator palpatine after fighting Mace.
CorsairToHeaven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to post this, I've been on Reddit too long
odyniec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clicked the comments section to make sure this was the top comment. Was not disappointed.
Bloofis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Soon as I saw the pic I thought of the exact same line. Let's be friends.
geo845 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why does everyone act like they don't look drastically different than they did 7 years ago... I mean if you looked at a photo of yourself 7 years ago you'd probably laugh at yourself
Lolzzergrush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The anti smoking campaign should use this
Eyehopeuchoke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guess what they say about stress giving you gray hair is true....
Rickd3508 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His eyes look tired...
FapMaster64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what we were saying in 2007... Then we did it again... 10/10 not worth it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who knew? Getting older makes you look older.
Kinmar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is your brain.
This is your brain on Presidency.
voodoo_ray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let alone twice
Cthulu2013 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The focus was off, it had a shallower depth of field, looks like the photog is focused on the mic stand? The resolution is way way way way lower on the left as well
overall giving bama a younger softer look.
I'm canadian but we tuned in at dinner to watch and he had some really great points, seeing that smug look on Paul Ryans face almost made me lose it
beelzuhbub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was cracking jokes with Biden.
Cthulu2013 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He never clapped...
NostalgiaZombie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
to be fair he transitioned from his 40s to 50s while president. Age was going to show regardless.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shouldn't the President have like all the best personal trainers, dieticians, doctors, mental health experts, etc. to make sure his in the best shape possible? Or is that how fast a President ages even with all that help.
BrushGoodDar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eight years of life: usually more than once.
Jredrum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here you go
charming-devil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Stress is bad to your health especially if you are president of the World's most dominant state. In span of 8 years he aged relatively fast.
lilvon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also theirs almost a decade between the 2 pictures. While I'm certain that running the most powerful country in the world is far form stress free I doubt you look the same as yo did 8 years ago.
avatoddo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not even twice
AnimeF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I came to make that exact comment +1 for you sir!
fashionbirth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://afashionz.com/sanam-chaudhry-furqan-qureshi-birthday/
JasonDJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's amazing how much of a physical toll presidency takes on a person. How much they age during their term.
I'd love to see an album of past Presidents like this -- a photo at the beginning of their first term and a photo at the end of their last. I feel like Barrack took it way harder than W, Clinton, or HW though. Maybe because he was so young-looking when he entered in the first-place.
geoffersonspin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1/10. Would not President again.
a1b3rt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read that as
Pregnancy: not even once
StargateMunky101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not even two terms!
Knownot_Gaming ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years: 8-10 times on average
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smoking.
larsvondank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is one of those posts where I guessed the top comment right. Feels good. "Presidency is a helluva drug" would've been my next guess.
VacantSun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eight years of any kind: not even once.
A_guy_that_fucks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, you won't.
tweakalicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing that can crack black.
i_am_austin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry truth will still make this about smoking cigarettes
ontopofyourmom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL that being President is also the most dangerous job in the US.
ItsMeSeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Methidency
junkeee999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost like he aged 8 years.
I am his age almost exactly. The change in me has been similar over the same time period.
Not__Even_Once ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can confirm.
CivilianConsumer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also smoking didn't help.
doggod22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was just thinking that
Totally-t ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a face that's seen state secrets, state lies to the people and had the looming possibility of nuclear war with, well anyone... On his shoulders. He'll be glad to go.
UpTheDump ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder what this is going to do to Sanders
HipHopReferences ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm out for presidents to represent me
steve_the_woodsman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this you cock blocker.
Bigchocolate420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If he aged that much in 8 years what would Bernie Sanders look like...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, coordinating all those vacations and tee times between covering up scandals really took a toll on him.
snorkel42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd do a single term in order to be set for life.
Rex_Laso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you have better odds of being the president of the US than winning powerball.
SpatulaJamtown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if it's presidency as much as the "M" word...Middle Age. It's a slippery slope after 40. I'm using crampons and an ice axe to hang onto my youthful glow.
HadesWTF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mother fucker walked in looking like Ric Flair, came out looking like Uncle Ben.
poprover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have named this picture: "Dumb and Dumber"
Zenopus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aging! Not even once.
Teresa_Count ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, once seems okay. (SOTUS 2012)
SinisterShodan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency's a helluva drug
neversleep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency is a helluva drug.
ademnus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is your brain on the Oval Office.
Any questions?
jewatheart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, it was twice!
cptfratsparrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair is isn't a once photo. He did presidency twice.
ArthurVandelaye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency with rice though.. 4/10
super1s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You think thats bad? Polk, just look what happened to Polk.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Twice.
dino8237 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cocaine is a hell of a drug
SentrySappinMahSpy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:35:58 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are only 3 people alive who used to be President. That's a nearly 100% mortality rate.
So not worth it.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 14:57:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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fudeu ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
power corrupts. another term and he will look like that start wars emperor
kkobzar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:58:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I can safely assume your name is not Hillary.
huihuichangbot ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's sad to see how Hope alone Changes very little. I hope primary voters have grown up a bit.
[deleted] ยท 1669 points ยท Posted at 13:58:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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zykezero ยท 538 points ยท Posted at 14:51:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Roosevelt just about disintegrated
ProspectiveQuant ยท 193 points ยท Posted at 15:01:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah..holy shit...he looks like he went from 20 to like 90...wtf...
ReluctantRedditor275 ยท 310 points ยท Posted at 15:10:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think a lot of that was the polio...
zubie_wanders ยท 286 points ยท Posted at 15:29:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Also, he served 4 terms.Also, he served 3 terms.
edit: corrections thanks
Wraith_GraveSpell ยท 411 points ยท Posted at 15:46:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Polio, 4 terms, and WWII. Not even once.
Michaelbama ยท 300 points ยท Posted at 15:59:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AND the Great Depression/Dustbowl.
FDR easily Went through I'd say literally the biggest shit storm after Lincoln.
EmergencyChocolate ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:14:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And a very controlling mother and a strong-willed wife and a mistress that his wife found out about....
dude had a lot going on, check out the Ken Burns doc, it's a soap opera all up in there
bkalen17 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:06:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cocaine too I believe
kulrajiskulraj ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:59:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heard that was pretty common around the time
nobodykk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
.
you_get_CMV_delta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's definitely a good point. I definitely hadn't thought about the matter that way.
Thatzionoverthere ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:33:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh his wife would of been okay with the mistress if FDR had the decency to invite her into the bedroom.
Source: memoirs of Eleanor Roosevelt, she also had her own mistress.
indyK1ng ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would you like to know more?
DeputyDomeshot ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:02:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Washington has got to be up there. Framing a new country and all.
Great1122 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:42:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought most of it was done before he was president and the electoral college picked Washington for his leadership qualities. I forget what Washington did during his presidency but building the country happened before that. He did set the 8 year limit though.
Smokeebaer420 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought FDR set the 8 year limit after he served for 12 years
_deffer_ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:11:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So Washington turned down a 3rd term, and everyone just took that as 'two terms is the max then' and never seeked a third term... until Ulysses S. Grant who sought a 3rd term in 1880, but lost to Garfield in the primary IIRC.
Others include Teddy Roosevelt (though technically it would have been his second elected term, McKinley was assassinated only a few months into his term - effectively a third term) and Grover Cleveland I believe. There were at least a few more who tried, but my studies were mainly on Grant, Teddy and Grover. Wilson comes to mind?
jesse9o3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:25:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Grover Cleveland never technically ran for a 3rd term because although he ran for president 3 times he only won twice with a gap in between so he basically ran for his 2nd time twice.
Rather interestingly he won the popular vote all 3 times but because of electoral college shenanigans he lost on his 2nd run. Because of this gap between his terms, and what I can only conclude is a fair degree of stupidity on whoever did the official counting, Grover Cleveland is both the 22nd and 24th President, which makes no sense at all.
_deffer_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. Cleveland wanted to run in the 1896 elections seeking a third term as president (and second consecutive term.) My comment was strictly talking those who served two terms and sought a third term after their 8th year - which Cleveland did.
jesse9o3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except he didn't, some delegates from the Gold Democrats wanted to give him the nomination but they relented after he telegraphed saying he wouldn't accept nomination.
_deffer_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On mobile so I don't have my folders with my undergrad research, but he wanted to run again - which is the emphasis in my previous two comments. They didn't get the nominations to even run for a third term in most cases - but they wanted to.
My comments were stating that at the beginning, Washington did 2 and then said that's enough. Everyone followed his example for almost 100 years until Grant. After him there were a few examples of those who wanted a third term (as opposed to those who served two and stepped away without seeking a third) - Cleveland was one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
So he wanted a third term (which is all I said in my original two comments.) He wasn't on the ticket, he wasn't even in the primaries. But he wanted it. Either you're misunderstanding my first two comments, or we're just on separate thought processes here.
jesse9o3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seems like both, I thought you meant he tried to run for president, not just that he wanted to.
_deffer_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, sorry I didn't clarify that better (one of my shortcomings.) I'm sure a lot of the presidents before 22 thought about a third, but only a few were publicly open about the prospect as it had become a de facto limit of 2 for both serving presidents, as well as public opinion that 2 be the limit.
Smokeebaer420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well you know more than I do
chowderbags ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:20:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Washington set the tradition. FDR went against tradition in 1940 because the whole Germany starting WW2 thing made him feel like he was the only one with enough experience to get the country through it.
He wasn't the first president to try. Grant, Cleveland, Teddy Roosevelt, and Wilson would all have had longer than 8 years in office if they had their way, but they all lose primaries or elections. 1951 is when the 2 term limit became official, with the ratification of the 22nd amendment.
jesse9o3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually Cleveland never stood for a 3rd term, rather he stood for his 2nd term twice. There is nothing to indicate that he wanted to have more than two terms, especially considering that in the run up to the 1896 election he told delegates at the Gold Democrats Conference that he wouldn't accept nomination.
dontbend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apperently, Washington set the 'informal limit'. The tradition goes back a long time though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Congress did after he served 4 terms, by constitutional amendment.
rpyles ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:10:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And he was a chain smoker, which ages you, he also liked to drink. From a generation that took zero care of themselves.
avec_serif ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:16:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And Lincoln didn't look so hot at the end of his presidency either.
theangryamoeba ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:48:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Especially after he went to that play.
otterom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget about his wife. Eesh.
The_cynical_panther ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:26:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A little over 3, really.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was elected to 4 but served 3 full terms
Winter_already_came ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not american, but aren't 12 years 3 terms? 1933-1945
Eternal_Witchdoctor ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:11:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was elected for a fourth term and died a few months into it, shortly before the end of WWII.
Winter_already_came ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:31:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh, ty.
Antebios ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:47:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was because of FDR and his 4 terms that an amendment was added to the Constitution that limited a presidential term to maximum of 2 (plus some of previous prez's time that vice-prez filled in).
You_Are_Blank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:55 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the vp limit is it's counted as a full term if it's greater than 2 years and otherwise ignored. So max time anyone could be president theoretically is 10 years.
Antebios ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:20 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Correct, max time is 10 years.
ProspectiveQuant ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:31:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, fair enough
woodman_mo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or the two packs of smokes a day.
monkeyselbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, congestive heart failure, melanoma metastasized to the brain, and lingering effects of influenza that he contracted at the conference in Teheran. Check out this article:
http://boatagainstthecurrent.blogspot.com/2010/02/flashback-february-1945-fdrsick-man-at.html
PeteEckhart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the whole 3 terms thing.
ReluctantRedditor275 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But proooobably mostly the polio.
nicetrylaocheREALLY ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:18:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was literally dying at the time, so it's pretty understandable.
g0_west ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:17:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't imagine wwii was particularly relaxing
shitterplug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
16 years of US presidency. Half of which was wartime. It's surprising he didn't just crumble into dust or something.
ProspectiveQuant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
haha I guess so.
throwaway_holla ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:03:04 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's 12 years, not 16.
From 1933 to 1945 is 12.
shitterplug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:34 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Close enough. The dude was a fucking presidential machine.
throwaway_holla ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:42:44 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I notice you get things wrong a lot but try to justify it by saying you're close enough for it to be "right" even though it's absolutely not right.
Whether or not your ego likes to admit it, wrong is wrong.
16 years is 33% more than 12.
If you were 33% wrong on a test you'd get a D, yet you insist you got an A. This is why you are where you are in life. And it is your "Aah, I'm right anyway, because (insert rationalization here)" attitude that holds you back.
You_Are_Blank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:43 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, polio mixed with 12 years vs the typical 8. And, you know, WWII. That has to be like double points or something.
Zzyyxx2 ยท 373 points ยท Posted at 15:04:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FDR did.
Teddy just looked more badass. Then again, when he died he was found beating the living shit out of the Grimm Reaper with his bare hands, he only died of exhaustion because you can't kill something that is dead already. US Marshals reports said "Mr. Reaper took it like a bitch the entire time."
/I make stuff up
TwoOatSodasGary ยท 256 points ยท Posted at 15:23:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty much what Vice President Thomas R. Marshall said at the time: "Death had to take him sleeping, for if Roosevelt had been awake, there would have been a fight."
I like your version better, though
Zzyyxx2 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 15:39:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, reading more and more about the man, I think that would have been more fact than fiction.
TR was the shit that legends are made of. He was... well, hard to explain. I would say the closest fictional character I can think of to him is Mal Reynolds, with his whole "if I ever kill you, you'll be armed, and facing me" (paraphrased) thing.
hesapmakinesi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed."
TopCop53 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They have a great documentary on Netflix about the two of them and Eleanor.
Zzyyxx2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, Ken Burns is the shit.
stokleplinger ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 15:35:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
THAT'S JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF THAT.
"Bully! I'll fight you til I damned well please and you'll like it, don't you know who I am?"
YES. I DO. ARE YOU DONE YET? I'VE GOT PLACES TO BE.
"Come on, put em up! You're not even trying!"
SIGH... YOU ASKED FOR IT.
And Death punched Teddy Roosevelt so hard the echoes were heard all around the Disc. The sound was one of grinding stone, like a headstone being simultaneously cut from a mountain, formed and carved and slammed into place above an open grave from orbit. Some say that the reverberations can still be heard echoing through the Ramtops to this day.
As the fabric of reality stopped shaking like a flag in a thunderstorm, Death standing over the crumpled, shadowy figure of the former president, a most surprising thing happened - the ghostly figure of the man stood up. "Ah, that's more like it!" the shadow of Teddy Roosevelt said as he wiped ectoplasmic blood from his lip and cracked his knuckles, "Now, for my retort!"
If Death had known how to comprehend fear, and if he had an esophagus, he would have gulped.
Some time later, as Death sunk into his chair back in his black mansion, Albert couldn't help but notice that his master's bones seemed to creak ever so slightly more than usual.
Zzyyxx2 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:41:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"A splint, sir... for your... um... injuries."
"Fuck you Albert. Fuck you."
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:52:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I miss Terry Pratchett...
q8p ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:41:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice. Very Pratchett-like.
fukitol- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:28:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you been to /r/WritingPrompts? Because you should.
stokleplinger ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:37:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What, do you not want me to get any work done?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have a gift son
MadCervantes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:58 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, did you write all that new? That's damn spot on for Pratchett's voice.
stokleplinger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:06 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, thanks, but I don't think it's anywhere as godly as Pratchett. I've just read some of the books so I kinda understand the style, he was really something else with wordplay.
ghjfds78908 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
really beautiful. thanks!
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:27:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So Teddy Roosevelt is the real life form of Chuck Norris memes?
Zzyyxx2 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:36:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TR's real life persona makes Norris look weak.
After a cavalry charge in Cuba in which he took heavy losses, he was depressed. Not because his unit was nearly wiped out. But because he didn't receive a disfiguring battle wound.
That's a level of hardcore Norris doesn't even begin to approach.
Butt_Stuff_Pirate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:40 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That cavalry charge should have gone so much worse. It was a stupid fatalistic decision that he got really lucky on.
BigIrishBalls ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:14:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I laughed. Thank you, I'm going through a rough patch right now and this made me smile.
Zzyyxx2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:20:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be like Teddy, Get Action.
Wraith_GraveSpell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd still believe it.
theGoddamnAlgorath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It takes more than that to kill a bullmoose!
tribblepuncher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Considering the man was shot in the middle of a speech, made it into a talking point, and thereafter continued, this may not be the truth, but it was pretty close to it.
MetalRetsam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/writingprompts
frohmatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:49 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen FDR: American Badass?
Butt_Stuff_Pirate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:19 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WHAT IS DEAD CAN NEVER DIE
djk29a_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL that Teddy Roosevelt was actually Chuck Norris
Zzyyxx2 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:41:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chuck Norris wishes he was TR.
rj20876 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:15:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit. Had me until the end.
FierySharknado ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a sub for shitty history? Cause this comment should be in it.
Dutch_Japp ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 14:59:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
12 Years a
SlavePresidentgsheedy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:03:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hear the Presidency was so hard on Roosevelt that he got polio.
EndoplasmicPanda ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:00:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hear the polio was so hard on Roosevelt that he got Presidency.
CupcakesAreTasty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:15:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I mean, he already had a pretty seriously debilitating disease, was a chronic smoker, and led the country through the most stressful period it's ever withstood.
So, I mean, I don't blame the guy for looking like he'd been hit by a truck.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:08:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, he was in office awhile
Thurgood_Marshall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:11:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was extremely sick in 44/45.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:13:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not so much the presidency or WWII, but the polio.
chanlonxp1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:27:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean.... He was a) president longer than anybody else, and b) dieing.
JustAnotherNut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FDR was the best president in history. When he got into office, America was going through the greatest economic downturn in history. FDR made United States a military powerhouse, created an all time low employment rate, defeated the axis powers and made the United States into the most powerful nation in the world.
adamantium3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Granted he served almost 4 terms
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
On the other hand, Clinton turned from a red nose alcoholic into a much more handsome man.
Apparently, a blowjob a day makes the wrinkles go away!
Exp0sur3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's more due to the first photo being airbrushed.
BobbyKendo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The back of Kennedy's head did.
Pritzker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lincoln looks like he's really seen some shit while in office. I guess a civil war will do that to you, huh?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well to be fair, he was president for like 36 years.
cohan8999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How come he sat for 12 years?
zykezero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The 2 terms rule was added after his 3rd term.
Wizzer10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aging 12 years, turning the Western world around from the greatest economic depression in history, witnessing the rise of Communism as a global threat, surviving polio and winning World War 2 will to that to you.
ThatBelligerentSloth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Polio, the depression, a world war and a lack of cosmetics use will do that to you.
TaylorS1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:22 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
According to a book on the US in the mid 20th century I have called The Glory And The Dream by William Manchester FDR basically worked himself to death.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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sickly_snake ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:10:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That and 12 years with polio.
drakeprimeone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what being president during a world war will do to you
xv323 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He basically did disintegrate as a result of being president, given he died in office.
Dualmilion ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:04:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why does he get such a longer term? I thought you could only do 2 at that point
zykezero ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:06:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is the reason we only have 2 term presidencies. Prior to Roosevelt it was standard for only two terms because of the precedent that George Washington set.
Dualmilion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing the war had something to do with it? Like having an election while the country is at war would be a pain in the ass
Classic___Dann ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, there was an election between him and a guy named Wendell Willkie. The war breaking out certainly helped Roosevelt's chances of reelection, but America didn't enter the war until 1942 (prior to '42, most of Americans were adamantly against involving themselves with European affairs). In fact, Roosevelt ran his 1940 campaign on the statement that "your boys will not be going to war."
"Let no group assume the exclusive label of the "peace bloc." We all belong to it ... I give you my deep and unalterable conviction, based on years of experience as a worker in the field of international peace, that by the repeal of the embargo the United States will more probably remain at peace than if the law remains as it stands today ... Our acts must be guided by one single, hardheaded thought -- keeping America out of the war."
JumpingJazzJam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They had elections Roosevelt was elected 4 times.
Caedus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah the two term limit was instituted after FDR. The only people to run for third terms before Him were Teddy Roosevelt and Ulysses Grant
Plumrose ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:09:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The '30s and '40s: not even once.
TheSchnozzberry ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:55:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost cheating using him. He was in office over a decade through a depression and a world war.
OneIdeaAway ยท 1217 points ยท Posted at 14:07:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It appears that JFK became younger during his term.
toeofcamell ยท 805 points ยท Posted at 14:18:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And for some reason Clinton looks like he's better at sax
redditorsaresoft ยท 527 points ยท Posted at 14:47:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clinton looks like he's just completed 5 years of undergrad.
CaptSmallShlong ยท 137 points ยท Posted at 15:03:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the freshman forty as they say
Khiva ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:13:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would completely believe that Bill Clinton slept with forty women, either during undergrad or during his presidency.
boot2skull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I keep getting older, but they stay the same age.
Anivair ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:16:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He just finished 5 undergrads, maybe.
sofaraway731 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heyo!
Belgand ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 14:57:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, Lewinsky had already graduated at the time.
dahjay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like he has that booze nose.
Wraith_GraveSpell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clinton's expression after looks like he had a pleasant surprise. ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking hairline of a toddler. So jealous.
Forestisinthetrees ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:27:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like he learned to play the saxophone to cover something up.
BILL: "Oh, yeah, y'ever play 'sex the president'?"
HILLARY: "Bill, are you one the phone? Who are you talking to? Did you say 'sex'?"
BILL: "wh- OH! Hillary! I didn't see you there, darling dearest wife woman that I love so much. -hangs up phone- wh-, tha'was jus', uhhhh...
...
..Sex? You thought I said sex? No, no, I said..eh..Sax. I said sax. Like a saxophone. That was the saxophone store. I'm learning the saxophone."
ronin0069 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:58:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You spelled 'sex' wrong.
ElvisJNeptune ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:29:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And my sax!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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toeofcamell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I ....I have no idea what you mean
reddit_user13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:11:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You misspelled Monica.
OrangeredValkyrie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clinton bothered me because the lighting is so different that you can barely spot the differences. That's more a comparison between a professional portrait and a candid shot.
54456778 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:00:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did not have sax with that woman. Ms Lewinksy
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*sex
pittstop33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL Clinton studied the saxophone during his presidency.
Sdicus7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone else notice that Clinton's teeth got more yellow?
jlking3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clinton starts getting a W. C. Field's nose.
miltownkarma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clinton looks like he forgot to pack his toothbrush when moving in to the White House.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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OwlExtermntr922 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey your right!
http://imgur.com/WbHwXZe
Butt_Stuff_Pirate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:39 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clinton got a little chunkier, must have been the drinking.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:05:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You misspelled sex.
[deleted] ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 14:12:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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sports_and_wine ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:56:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He really went out with a bang.
TBsProlapsedAsshole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:05:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why was his presidency cut short?
AboutToPumaPants ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:10:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PEW PEW
BowsNToes21 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:47:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bullet to the head will do that to you.
roomandcoke ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:01:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is bullshit. If Congress could get their act together, maybe we could change that antiquated idea.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to think this is some weird attempt at a joke, but this is Reddit so I have not the slightest idea of what to think.
roomandcoke ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:16:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guess I needed a /s
BowsNToes21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't aware that dying from a bullet to the head was antiquated.
MiniatureBadger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:58:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whoosh
[deleted] ยท 146 points ยท Posted at 14:42:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He did lose a little bit of weight right at the end.
quacktarwolverine ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 15:02:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BOO
urbanpsycho ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:46:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-M HEADSHOT!
hinckley ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:22:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-K DEPOSITORY! LOOK OUT, MR PRESIDENT!
But it was too late.
quacktarwolverine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:31:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dun dun DUN!!!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:04:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This three letter reply made me laugh harder than any other reddit comment has, somehow.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BIES
PM_me_munsterlanders ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BOOM
lost_in_thesauce ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:02:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was all in his head.
Peach_Senpai ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:05:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard he lost his mind.
david-me ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:14:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His wife picked up a few of the pieces.
lost_in_thesauce ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...all over Jackie.
ketheriel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
21 grams?
Stefano- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
21 grams.
tuckidge ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:04:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Word for word my exact comment
StrictlyOffTheRecord ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:12:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, his last head shot was somewhat controversial.
wtfduud ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:04:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The second picture is lower quality, so you can't the wrinkles as well as in the first one.
ifaptolatex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:08:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, he hasn't aged since.
CorkMcPork ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:10:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah well the latter pic isn't exactly from the day he left office. He could barely keep his head on straight that day.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:35:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
banging Marilyn Monroe in the oval office tends to reinvigorate the body
Work-After ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His eyes look less lively.
Fahsan3KBattery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He certainly lost weight.
TheVenetianMask ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was a robot.
SirLeepsALot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tons of sex is the key to remaining young during the presidency.
mrgrubbage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JFK was pretty much a cripple by the end.
DarthWarder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that it was a good place to insert some morbid humor.
Deradius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, anyone with brains in their skull knows JFK had a head start, being the youngest president ever elected. Between that and the fact that his term was shorter than most, it's not too mind blowing that you'd have to use a high powered scope to spot any evidence of aging.
Mordor497 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like he had his face pulled
Gawd_Awful ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably started having even more sex than before being President.
RedStag86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His face looks younger, but his eyes look dead...er.
SnakeDocMaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depending on your views of reincarnation, he started back over at 0.
shitterplug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure lost his mind though.
CptnCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was taking shit-loads of drugs to treat addison's disease. I read that a side effect of the drugs was that his face was puffier. That would explain why he looks less wrinkled in later photos.
Dicethrower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No he just lost some weight.
Boro84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he also lost about 8lbs
Fftlacop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makes no sense that he's even included on that list.
Aunvilgod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And Clinton just drunk.
fuckinwhitepeople ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mind blowing.
rendeld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He lost some weight
Richeh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, Kennedy looked fucking terrible eight years after he was elected.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:08 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It appears at one point he stopped aging entirely.
raskalnikov_86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing it has something to do with either prednisone or painkillers. It's not common knowledge, but his health was in really rough shape.
WaitForItTheMongols ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:40:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree. He didn't look too good, right at the end there...
[deleted] ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 14:39:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess Nixon was always the same handsome devil
bahgheera ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 15:00:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THANK YOU AGNEW!
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:28:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this is a Futurama reference and while I can't recall it ever happening, in my mind it was Futurama's Nixon saying this.
Wraith_GraveSpell ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:48:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NIXON'S BACK!
bahgheera ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:25:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BRBABABABABABAH!!!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, me too.
burning5ensation ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 15:11:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NGAAAAAAAGHHHGHHH!!!!
Jorragayuh ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 15:22:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AROOOOOOOOO!!!
Userfr1endly ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:23:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahrooooooooooh!_
DenominatorX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Somehow got some more hair
marshal_mellow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:01 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As Nixon aged he got more in focus and sharper contrast, improving his appearance greatly.
smokebeer840 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 14:59:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can really tell which ones served during a war.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:43:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking Eisenhower just looks like he got off a campaign or something. Hes in marvelous form.
roflzzzzinator ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:20:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was only in ww2 for like 2 seconds
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya i agree. He was only the supreme allied commander.
Dark_Forecast ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:17:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every president except maybe one
Lothar_Ecklord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WWII absolutely destroyed Truman. I think he fared the worst.
Kismonos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isnt the US in war since like 100+ years?
elchupahombre ยท 181 points ยท Posted at 14:46:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you saying that how old you look is generally a function of how old you are and how much you aged?
I would also like to point out that 8 years is roughly one tenth of average u.s. life expectancy.
8 years ago i was just out of college and living at home with my folks trying to get back on my feet and deal with my student loans. I have a wife, adopted daughter, a house, and 7 years of experience in my field of study now. I also looked a lot younger.
AAonthebutton ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 15:02:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just looked for a photo when I was 21. When I compare the difference, it looks like I served 8 years as POTUS.
Marimba_Ani ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:23:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But you look great now for a 54-year-old!
lilikiwi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to do this but now I'm scared to.
are_you_seriously ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 14:59:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or the younger a person is when becoming president, the less experience they have in dealing with chronic high stress, thus leading to more dramatic aging.
Yea, no shit people age as a function of time. Most people don't age 20 years in the span of 8 though.
Corporal_Jester ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:14:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You do in your 50's.
50 to 60 is a pretty big change.
20-30 meh no biggy.
30-40 ouch some things are achy that weren't before but I'm good.
40-50 I'm tired, and I cannot function at the same rate as I could before.
50-60 Things no longer function the same, some things function much less.
60+ Functionality is iffy on some things, lots of things ache.
BobPlager ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He doesn't look like he's aged "20 years" in any way, shape, or form.
ermaferkingerrd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What? Name one of those presidents that actually looks 20 years older after their 8 year term. They look about a decade older, which is accurate.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My gf and I are nowhere near ready for kids nor are we married but I have always been battling with whether or not I should genetically make my own kids or adopt. Adopting seems like the right thing to do and neither of us are the "pass my genes/blood" type of people. Again, just curious for information about it. How much did it cost? Got any useful links?
kiwiluke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i think i've aged about 30 years in the last 8, seems running your own business ages you faster than running the free world
highastronaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a 21yo this speaks to me
fvrdog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never understood these. Yeah it's stressful, but shit that's eight years of his life. Mid-40's, to mid-50's. Seems he aged appropriately to me.
Mean_Mister_Mustard ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:03:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still trying to deal with your student loans?
deHavillandDash8Q400 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck off. /r/iamverysmart
EatsPeanutButter ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:12:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eight years ago, I was 24. Since then I've moved across the country, spent 7 years working at a nightclub, got married, and had a baby. I'm 32 now, still work 6-9 nights a month, full time mom, special needs kid. I look almost EXACTLY the same except my makeup has improved and I'm more fit vs skinny. I passed for 19-20 then, I pass for 23-24 now. If I said I was 20 I wouldn't be questioned. I'm terrified that I'm going to be one of those people who just wakes up old one day. But maybe not, I think a lot of my habits keep me young. Please keep me young, habits.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:59:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, poor Lincoln
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:59:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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ThePolemicist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll give you that it's a decent amount of time to age, and if it was a man going from a head full of hair to balding, that would be one thing. I think it's a little naive to think the stress of the office doesn't impact the President physically, though.
I tried to think of another politician who is fairly young. Here is Paul Ryan in 2008, and here he is in 2016. It's been 8 years since Sarah Palin ran for vice president. Here she is in 2008, and here she is in 2015. These politicians didn't age nearly to the degree of President Obama. I think it's a common observation that Presidents age drastically while in office. It would be interesting if someone did a study on the phenomenon, though.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Palin basically hasn't worked in 8 years. 8 years of leisure will do that to a person.
dfriddy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:51:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bill Clinton drank a lot.
watereol ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:00:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reagan's hair genes are just immaculate. He had the hairline of a teenager to his death.
TheSpiffySpaceman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:09:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Geez, FDR looks like he drank outta the wrong Grail
ranatalus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:39:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why does Eisenhower look like someone photoshopped a baby onto an old man's face
SammyBrock ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:49:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Impressed with Clinton.
SempreBeleza ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FDR looks as though he fought an entire world war during his presidency or something, jeez
Vectoor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, if i didn't know better I'd say that looks like over three terms worth of aging.
JitGoinHam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sample size of one, but we can agree that guy did not look healthy at the end of his Presidency.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rosevelt had a rough time. Guess global war will do that to you.
Aj45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously FDR showed the most seeing as he served 3+ terms and had polio.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eisenhower looks like a young Snoke
mjy6478 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:06:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't age at all. Presidency was a cakewalk compared to fighting a war. Motherfucker got all the wrinkles he'd ever get fighting WWII.
Cedricium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like Nixon didn't get any happier...
griffin3141 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ike looks like the presidency barely got to him. I wonder what's more stressfull: supreme commander of allied forces or POTUS.
CoconutMacaroons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FDR had it rough.
Encyphus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8+ huh?
PB111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FDR was elected 4 times
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Richard Nixon is NOT a pretty man
CorkMcPork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did Clinton's eyes get so much smaller?
nic0lk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being the president during a major war must hit you hard. Lincoln and FDR seem to have aged the most between the two.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nixon doesn't change
--Danger-- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
g.w. bush doesn't look like the job had a real impact--just the passage of time
metathesis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The JFK after should probably reflect the fact that he died in some way.
gwvent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8+? Where there presidents who served more than two terms?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://imgur.com/xbKyqP3
Hahahahahah this is what I'm seeing on that page.
woutomatic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or... between 40 and 50 you age the most.
t0t0zenerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ike and Nixon just did not change... Impressive.
nsa_k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's interesting. JFK doesn't look like he changed much at all... Oh yeah...
Clown_Shoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dwight Eisenhower looks like a lunatic
ProssiblyNot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love how Eisenhower looks insane at the end of his term. Commanding Allied forces against the Nazis? Piece of cake. Handling the capricious American electorate? Institutionalize me please.
skywalkerr69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought Lincoln aged well.
reggaegotsoul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, everyone has this folk wisdom that being stressed ages you or gives you grey hair. They forget that time ages you more. We're talking about 7 years here.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck Truman went from Dad to Grandpa
jim5cents ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen JFK's after pic...it looks less like that and more like a hollowed out watermelon
Fyller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, world war 2, not even once. It looks like he aged 30 years.
Steinberg1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Roosevelt. I mean, it's called moisturizer for chrissakes!
two2teps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like JFK is a bit of a cheat at only three years, and FDR died in office so his final picture is going to look way worse than anyone else. Also Clinton truly is bullet proof.
Gawd_Awful ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eisenhower somehow seemed to barely age at all.
FlexGunship ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like there might be images of Lincoln and Kennedy that would should a more... stark... contrast from the start of their presidencies to the ends.
jnemomic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bill looks good. Must have had fun.
gosling11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh God that psychotic smile Eisenhower is terrifying
aabeba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There seems to really have been a camera (or daguerreotype) revolution during Lincoln's time!
mjschul16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Truman and Lincoln definitely got the worst of it. Wartime presidents get absolutely wrecked dermatologically.
Thatseemsright ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay I get most of those guys but why bother putting FDR? He served four terms...there's going to be an age progression on anyone in that time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did Truman like... look into the arc of the covenant?
ChocktawNative ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol those pictures are such bullshit. the lighting in the before pictures wash out all the features. not saying the presidency doesn't age you, but those pictures don't show it
IUsedToBeGoodAtThis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am not sure those are the right pictures of JFK and Lincoln at the end of their terms.
esoteric_enigma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like someone had an IV attached to Truman slowly draining the life juice out of him every day.
keylimesoda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nixon. Nixon never changes.
TheDrode ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was Clinton a big drinker? He's got an alcoholic's nose in the second pic
GueroCabron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its nice that Eisenhower finally became human.
Blu_Phoenix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JFK simply leveled up.
RabidRapidRabbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eisenhower looks like a lunatic arsonist, his grin is right out frightening.
If you look closely you can see the flames reflection in his eyes.
SarcasticGiraffes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FDR and Truman got destroyed. Holy shit.
PizzaPieMamaMia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does anyone else notice that all of those presidents except Obama are missing their upper lips? Look at Regan. And FDR looks like he's missing both his lips! He just has a slit for a mouth.
essential_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clinton. Eternal youth!
miparasito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone above mentioned that these pictures are only 6 years apart.
Nole_in_ATX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eisenhower looks like how people depict aliens.
ForeverFun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
there is no period in Harry S Truman.
shaw2885 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Civil war really destroyed Honest Abe. Poor guy.
The_Lion_Jumped ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like bush and Reagan aged well, Reagan already being older helped. Eisenhower is terrifying. And I was think damn, the presidency hit FDR HARD but then I remembered all the extenuating circumstances of his presidency. Poor guy held up like a champ.
TuarezOfTheTuareg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea but what strikes me about Obama is you can literally see the loss of hope in his eyes. It's depressing
6chan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JFK did not look like that the day his presidency ended
RedGreenPaint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Idk, JFK didn't look that much older at the end of his term.
TurdofFrodo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well no shit?
CrankLee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clinton looks like he became an alcoholic.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why does that article start out.... "Running ONE of the largest, most powerful, and most prosperous nations on the earth....."?
SayceGards ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eisenhower just grew into his head! Good for him.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was cool, but it would be helpful if it had their before and after ages too. I guess I'll just do it. Plus, my opinion.
Key:
1 Looks great 2 Aged a little 3 Aged a lot
President Age at Start Age at End # of Years How aged?
JFK 43 46 3 1
G.W. Bush 54 62 8 1
Ike 62 70 8 1
Reagan 69 77 8 1
Obama 47 54 7 2
Clinton 46 54 8 2
Lincoln 52 56 4 2
Nixon 56 61 5 2
FDR 51 63 12 3
Truman 60 68 8 3
one_is_enough ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Several of these are exaggerated by cherry-picking the photos. For example, the first Roosevelt photo is obviously a portrait sitting that has been airbrushed, where the second is a news snapshot. The first Nixon is slightly blurred, which hides skin texture and blemishes.
room7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like most of the befores are staged portrates and afters are candid/action shots. Most of them in the link dont look exponentially bad after.
WaitWhatting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That site is somehow casually comparing press quality retouched studio pics against live pics taken at fuck ass exhausting events...
Oh, surprise... Those fuckers look tired...
Aaaandiiii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta say Regan looked fantastic.
DrProbably ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dwight don't give a fuuuck.
classic__schmosby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, if Bernie wins, will he get younger?
Zathandron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WHAT THE FUCK IS EISENHOWER
totallagness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/4zHRAeL.png
Now that's just being insensitive, ads.
Yet_Another_Hero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meanwhile, Ike looks like he had a few leisurely years after having won WWII and previously holding a title that sounds even cooler than President of the United States. "Supreme Allied Commander NATO Forces" just has a certain awesomeness built right into the title.
Carrabus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think Clinton got younger
aenor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of them weather it better than others.
Look at Eisenhower - he's a little older but the eyes are as cheerful as ever. Reagan's eyes look the same too.
Whereas Roosevelt and Lincoln look utterly exhausted, they've survived but their eyes say they are utterly weary and disappointed in the world.
Loves2Poo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always been surprised how Bill Clinton's nose has changed over the years.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how could you serve more than 8 years?
traffick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let me get this straight- you're telling me their changing appearances over time is a function of aging??
treycox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The FDR one isn't much of a surprise tbh.
AnalLeaseHolder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So Bernie Sanders would look something like this?
pigeonwiggle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eisenhower must've let someone else handle the responsibilities
xxTheGoDxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one who sees that the before and after picture have never the same level sharpens?
TheIslander829 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eisenhower took it pretty well.
eta_carinae_311 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eisenhower doesn't age, apparently?
homeboy422 ยท 588 points ยท Posted at 14:59:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The first picture seems heavily Photoshopped to make the skin seem smoother.
[deleted] ยท 936 points ยท Posted at 15:46:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the second one is deliberately at a bad angle to make him look older
Here's one from yesterday: http://www.thenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/obama_sotu_2016_ap_img.jpg
elmo298 ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 17:04:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also hair, dress code (tie colour) all gives the impression of age. Perhaps they are going for the wisdom look
PilferinGameInventor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:37:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Without a doubt. Any president would have about 10 people behind the scenes working out exactly what he/she should wear for any particular function. Because that is exactly what politics is about these days... appearance!
JamesArget ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:13:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure he has somebody (or bodies) who are mindful of this, but he also only owns two colors of suit. His "look" is just a choice of grey or blue suit, and what tie.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:13:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Implying kings and nobles haven't been wearing the latest fashions for thousands of years.
PilferinGameInventor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:13 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A suit and tie isn't the latest fashion.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:49:32 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the latest in formal fashion acceptable in Washington. Besides, that isn't the point. The point is people in positions of power have always worried about their appearance.
Dipz ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:09:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's also black. We age well.
ananori ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:17:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black doesn't crack!
Illugami ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:19:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
here's a tip: Lotion!
ratuuft ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:17:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok Bill Burr.
MeetTheJoves ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what the fuck did you'll just fucking say to me you'll little coward
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:23:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dark Black.
Or as my old boss called himself: Dark Nigga
lukenog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black is an ethnic group, not just a skin color. I'm a pale-ass Latino guy, but there are black people with lights skin than me.
whitepalms85 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:29:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, Asians women are also age quite well. White people actually don't age very well.
wrinkledlion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's down to us living in parts of the world we didn't evolve for. I've got relatives in Iceland who look a good fifteen years younger than they actually are, because the sun doesn't come out for half the year.
Truly, sun damage is a white man's burden
whitepalms85 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:32:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's true, white skin and sun are a terrible combination for aging.
marshal_mellow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:43 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
White dude here, super jealous. You guys age well and can pull off the shaved head much better than us. Thats why you almost never see an ugly ass balding black dude, only handsome smooth headed dudes.
A-IAH-HDE-CDF0 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:40:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The angle is the least of it. The second photo is taken from a scene that makes him look sad when frozen. Even the saturation is brought down! Like way down, they gave him the color of a fucking corpse. On top of that, the colors of the first one are set to look more yellow and bright, while the second one is more blue and muted. Somebody did everything they could think of to make the photos look as different as possible.
japanesepagoda ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:41:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn Obama. Black don't crack.
DarrellDawson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like the pictures they use on REPEAL OBAMACARE remnant web ads.
op135 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
makeup
IndyDude11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the OTHER Obama, obviously.
Vnofd5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's definitely been photoshopped. Where are his moles and freckles?
i_spot_ads ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:32:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you zoom in you can almost see the bullshit as it leaves his mouth. LOL
KevinFul04 ยท 223 points ยท Posted at 15:22:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the second has him freeze framed at an "ugly" pose.
Keyser_Brozay ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 16:13:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. This is like shitty acne commercials where the before is them grimacing in the closet and the after is them smiling with studio lighting.
Lolworth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also /r/progresspics
Do_Ya_Like_Dags_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also half the time the before picture looks like it was take on a cell phone and the after looks like it was taken with a $10,000 DSLR.
[deleted] ยท 177 points ยท Posted at 15:43:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SpeakingHonestly ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:53:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
different ties, different dates. but obviously the pictures were selected with bias toward the contrast OP wanted to showcase
thejadefalcon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not the same picture, not even the same event and that's not the same angle (hair can look very different at different angles).
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:06:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do I keep seeing this now on reddit? What does it mean?
MiniatureBadger ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:05:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hard as a motherfucker.
bourbondog ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:26:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That might be a legit answer. Or maybe they added old age wrinkles in Photoshop. Have you actually seen this man in real life?
Glorymuffin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:14:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also look at the color saturation in the second photo. His ring and flag pin both look grey, showing that the color has been brought down. He may have grey hair and and more lines in his face, but I imagine his skin should still be the same color.
Falldog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:04:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's just due to the poor image quality. Here's a higher res version, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_State_of_the_Union_Address#/media/File:2010_State_of_the_Union.jpg
Also, that's not during his first State of the Union. It's during his 2009 address to Congress.
johnnycoin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:42:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
considering how skeptical Reddit it, I am surprised this isn't top post with proof
brownsniffer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Top comment
linds360 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's either Photoshop or heavier makeup. It also doesn't help that he's raising his eyebrows in the "now" picture so his wrinkles are more evident.
buttwhole_keyi_ma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
deleted What is this?
nasirjk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, not sure why this isn't the top comment.
Packers_Equal_Life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah both pictures seem really exaggerated
OliveOliveo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, that is the skin of a 17-year-old
atlaslugged ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like the earlier picture was also lower resolution and enlarged.
Aerron ยท 867 points ยท Posted at 14:26:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dang, it looks like he's aged almost 10 years.
[deleted] ยท 1172 points ยท Posted at 14:56:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would seven be a good estimate?
[deleted] ยท 256 points ยท Posted at 15:07:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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You_coward ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:59:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, 3,628,799 is almost 10!
Bewgs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On a scale from 0 to a zillion, you're right!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite budweiser radio commercial.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that's terrible.
Netrilix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
... That was one of the most worthless comments I've ever heard.
AaroniusH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, 10! is 3628800. CLEARLY you meant 10
MacroMouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I give this comment a perfect 5/7
mister11th ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thatsthejoke.php
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:58:35 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the joke
Arborgold ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or 8
RunJumpStomp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes 5 is a good estimate.
popproxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More like 5/7's
nock529 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:48:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
its about 5/7 so yeah
Captain-Turtle ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
5/7 joke
christianpowell416 ยท 283 points ยท Posted at 15:01:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'd say more than 7 years but less than 9.
Quackicature ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:23:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"When did we soak our corks at the same time? 1968?"
"I thought it was 1970."
"Oh well, somewhere between 1968 and 1970."
t0tes_malotes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because 7, 8, 9
Lnfinite_god ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:12 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're wrong. It's 7.
ThatGirlRaaae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He could have passed as someone in their early 30's when he started, now he looks his age
urabollox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his fingers look older
the_leprechauns_anus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
almost!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:57:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol i hope your being sarcastic
Aerron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/utzTCyo.png
suugakusha ยท 3642 points ยท Posted at 14:57:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If Sanders gets elected, in 8 years he will look like this.
SmallChildArsonist ยท 532 points ยท Posted at 15:14:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would elect the Crypt Keeper for President just for the terrible puns.
"And now for my Stake of the Union address!"
[deleted] ยท 374 points ยท Posted at 16:28:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Gather round, BOILS and GHOULS, and let me tell you a story about universal healthSCARE. Eeeheheheheee!"
VladameowCuten ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:06:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Crypt Keeper is a republican, huh?
traffick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
10/10 would vote for Crypt Keeper Sanders
3lbFlax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Four scare and seven fears ago, our fathers brought forth on this continent a new abomination..."
ForeverAlone2SexGod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lord have mercy I want President Cryptkeeper to happen sooooo badly...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie Sander's accent makes him sound like that already
KeithDecent ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 16:35:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Time to take a ride in SCARE Force One!"
StickyNiki ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 17:03:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm the head of the execute-ive branch!"
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:21:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He then puts his head in the guillotine, pulls the lever, and cackles maniacally as his face lands in the basket
JaketheSnake54 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:42:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Four more fears! Four more fears!"
CowboyFlipflop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Everyone says we have a dearth of civility around here. If elected, I promise the DEATH of all CIVILIANS ahahahaha!"
lavahot ยท 1216 points ยท Posted at 15:11:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I really thought that was going to be Emporia Palpatine.
EDIT: My top comment is now a autocorrect error. The Force is weak with me.
JaseAndrews ยท 399 points ยท Posted at 16:09:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I like that - "Emporia Palpatine" - the sith lord from Kansas.
Edit - spelling. Oh, the irony.
cyclicamp ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:22:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to be confused with Palpatine Emporium, for all your Palpatine needs.
xxmindtrickxx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:16:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find your lack of spellchecks disturbing.
midwestlovefest ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:09:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is the first time i've seen emporia mentioned on reddit
moonsprite ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 16:50:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still checks out
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:37:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes... feel the bern flow through you.
Do_Ya_Like_Dags_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:36:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Capitalism is Dead, it seems in your anger, you killed her.
Haribo_the_gummybear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just thinking.. In star wars, they had a legitimate Senate, yet Palpatine still thinks it's a great choice to wear a hood like the goddamn Grim Reaper. How weird would it be if Obama showed up one day just wearing a robe?
Red_Cheddarz ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 15:50:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Had to confirm that I wasn't alone on this one.
Straighty180- ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:56:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the exact same thought.
mikesbullseye ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:02:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm kinda let down it wasn't
markussimo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I was thinking
deadlybydsgn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was expecting the guy from the end of The Last Crusade.
bushysmalls ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:12:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's an Emporia? Is that like an Impala?
fork_yuu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:03:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was going to be a spooky skeleton
vera214usc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew it was going to be the Crypt Keeper because I've been on constant vigilance for pictures of the Crypt Keeper since I was a child.
745631258978963214 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it would be the cryptkeeper due to the link.
LUSTY_BALLSACK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I expected dead Indiana Jones holy grail guy
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was gonna say snoak
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was expecting a coffin
boot2skull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I googled "Emporia Palpatine" images for a funny reply, nope, still Emperor Palpatine.
AKC-Colourization ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:07:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We all did.
Sk8r115 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:15:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No that's Phil Bryant
jtdollah ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:15:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The emperor has an Emporia?
Louzey ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:19:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man I love going to Palpatine Emporia.
EffortlessYenius ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:51:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Emporium Palpatine?
scubafire4 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:58:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
whats the difference now?
MalfiteMeIRL ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:06:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was going to be Smitty Werbanjangermanjensen
A_600lb_Tunafish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:27:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie's reaction when he sees this in 8 years
somanyroads ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:22:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hell Yeah! Crypt Keeper for president ๐
doomsdayparade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
\m/
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 15:03:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a pretty big if, despite what Reddit may tell you
[deleted] ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 15:05:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even more "if" considering that an 8-year presidency is only if you are reelected.
yo_soy_fiesta ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:03:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
George H.W. Bush took office a few months before my first birthday, so I remember virtually nothing about his presidency.
I'll be 28 this year and I've only really seen two term presidencies my entire life. Might be nice to see a "one and done" for a change.
uwhuskytskeet ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:04:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Generally that means their first term was shitty, so I'd still like to avoid that.
Jess52 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:42:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless your Polk he got shit done and left
iamthegraham ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:23:49 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sounds like my kind of President, let's just elect him again this year
homefree122 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:39:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact of the day: of the 43 presidents we've had, only 16 have won two consecutive elections.
SlowRollingBoil ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:50:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact of the much more recent day: In the last 35 years (an eternity in terms of national and international politics, changes in norms, etc), only 5 people have been President. Only George H.W. Bush was elected once; Reagan, Clinton, Bush Jr. and Obama were all two-term Presidents.
sidepart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:19:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The majority of presidents in my lifetime have been two term presidents.
svtguy88 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:06:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If he gets elected, I have a feeling he's going to piss off too many people to get re-elected...and I'm fine with this. Sometimes you need someone to stir the pot.
orfane ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 15:13:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just had to stir the pot didn't you
Jess52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be prepared /r/Sandersforpresident is gonna leak hard and start a circle jerk
[deleted] ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 15:07:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a pretty big "if" for every option right now, what's your point?
[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 15:29:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pessimism sprinkled with a little cynicism. That's his only point.
WillemDafuq_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His point is Hernie has no chance.
[deleted] ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 15:12:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
He almost certainly will not win.
It's alright to back a candidate that isn't going to win, hell I'm going to vote for Jezza Corbyn next time round.
EDIT: This is why Redditors think Sander is going to win. Downvoting people who disagree with the consensus on what is probably your only source of news is not a good idea.
gropingpriest ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:24:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vegas has odds of Bernie winning at +500, fwiw. But that's second behind Hillary.
iamthegraham ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:01 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
makes sense, the GOP still has like 9 different candidates who could realistically win so the odds of either of the two serious Democratic candidates are going to be a lot higher.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:17:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not sure why you say that. he's doing really well in the polls.
[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 15:23:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
In some places. Nationwide he is still losing comfortably.
SmokeNMunch ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:28:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
On mobile, so I can't link, but this is not accurate. Edit. Here you go.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are right, it's not true anymore. Edited to reflect this.
SmokeNMunch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Might edit the word comfortably out of there too.
EdenBlade47 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:31:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
According to a NYT poll released last night, nationwide it's about 41% Sanders, 48% Clinton, with a 6% MOE. Not sure what polls you're looking at. In "some places" he's polling 10%+ higher, like NH.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:16:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's got more chance of winning than any of the republican candidates, from what I can tell. And Hilary is an untrustworthy bitch. Normally I'd say someone as old as Sanders has no chance in hell, but considering his competition, he may.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There won't be another Republican president for a long time. The Democrats could run Pol Pot's reanimated corpse and still win.
Hilary is a bad candidate for the presidency, and represents everything wrong with US politics, but she is still sitting on an 80% chance of winning (as of the last time I looked).
Seakawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I think of defense mechanisms, I always think about the way people will edit their comment when they're downvoted.
That being said, your edit seems like quite an assumption. You sure your comment just wasn't genuinely deserving of a downvote? Why or why not?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:07:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Editing your comment when it's below the score threshold is the only way to get your point across. Most people won't open further tiers of the discussion unless it is to mass downvote all your comments in the chain.
Giving an alternative viewpoint (not a contrarian opinion, or top level dressing down of the article) is just something you cannot do on Reddit.
Any comment that doesn't either a) serve no purpose b) break sub-Reddit rules should be at the very least ignored.
Three/four years ago I could have posted the same comment about Ron Paul and it would have yielded the same result.
My comment adds to the discussion, is not inflammatory or offensive, and despite what this community likes to think, is probably right. It's censored because Reddit support Sanders on average.
TheHaddockMan ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think Jezza has a much better chance of becoming PM than Bernie does of winning the presidency. But then, his chances are pretty good since David Cameron has made it his mission to be hated by as many different groups of people as people and it's unlikely that a potential replacement could turn things around in time to win the next election.
circlesmirk00 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:23:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Turn it around"??? He's already significantly ahead of Corbyn and just won a conservative majority. Get off Reddit! He's not the most popular but Corbyn doesn't stand a chance and the conservatives could get a Cat elected before Corbyn gets close to number 10.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone online seems to be under the impression that Cameron leads an unpopular government, which isn't the case at all.
It was an insane feat to gain a majority in the GE. The Conservatives are well liked by large swathes of the UK.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Corbyn needs the Scottish vote to win, which he is not going to get. The SNP landslide is going to continue, for better or for worse.
The next government is likely going to be some kind of Conservative coalition, unless Corbyn does a deal with the SNP (which would be great).
I think Corbyn is the best PM candidate in several decades, and is probably the best leader Labour has ever had, but he will probably still lose.
BroadShoulderedBeast ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 15:19:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit, Bernie cadets are here, watch out!
Seakawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure. Bernies "cadets" have arrived. A special brigade was alerted to infiltrate a reddit thread to protect his name.
Btw, /r/conspiracy is that way.
KablooieKablam ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:14:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even though newer polls have him leading in Iowa and New Hampshire (and the ones that don't still demonstrate a very tight race in those states)? Reddit isn't far off on this one.
sign_on_the_window ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sanders will fair well in NH, Iowa, and Vermont because of the liberal demographics. But Hillary is insanely popular in the South, New York, and West Coast. She is also winning more endorsements than Sanders, which puts her in a better position in the super delegate part. Sanders will do well in the beginning, but it is looking grim after that.
KablooieKablam ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:52:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Winning Iowa and New Hampshire would have a massive impact on the campaign in favor of Bernie Sanders, like it does for candidates every election. He would be taken more seriously by more people as a viable candidate, not just a Reddit pipe dream. Lots of people are still convinced Hillary is the only option for Democrats.
AdolfBurkeBismarck ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:35:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quote me on this: Bernie Sanders won't beat Hillary in SC, Nevada, Alabama, Tennessee, Texas, or California.
KablooieKablam ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:45:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe not, but he'll have a better shot with Iowa and NH victories on the news.
speedisavirus ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because she is if they want to win the general election. Sanders is waaaaaay too far left to win against a decent republican pick.
fuel_units ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:38:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But there isn't a decent Republican pick.
speedisavirus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:24:20 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All but Donald Trump and maybe Ted Cruz are more electable.
fuel_units ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:27:23 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you kept up with the elections in the last two months? There have been dozens of polls showing Bernie is the most electable candidate of either party.
speedisavirus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:17 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good for them. Who are they polling? He simply cannot win a general election. He is too far left. He is too far left for even many democrats. Unless the right goes full retard with Trump then Sanders loses. End of story. He will not be president. Sorry to crush your dreams.
lecuriousincident ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:26:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a feeling the polling is very targeted, the sample size small compared to the actual voters, and that the questions are asked in a way that elicits a certain response. Also, what's the margin of error? What are the questions being asked? How are people being contacted? With the method of contact, what kind of person is reached that way (landline vs. cell vs. ??)
I think there's a lot going into polling rather than asking "Who do you like?" to those on the street. And even that can elicit a certain response - what street are you on? Are you by Wall St? Or near a church? Or by a homeless shelter? These all influence what kind of response people get. And you bet pollsters keep that in mind.
I would be highly skeptical of ANY poll for ANY candidate, no matter which way you lean.
KablooieKablam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:51:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you think polling is inherently flawed because you aren't asking every voter, you don't understand statistics. Your point about methodology is of course important, but every respectable poll reports that alongside their findings.
This was the poll I was referring to. You can read about those details:
http://time.com/4177441/bernie-sanders-iowa-poll-january/
speedisavirus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:20:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not always about sample size. It's about sample distribution. I am skeptical about a lot of polls too because building the proper audience is important to get representative results.
KablooieKablam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's part of what methodology is.
lecuriousincident ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:15:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you look at the bottom, it says out of 492 likely caucus voters. How many people participate in Iowa caucuses? According to this link, 492 doesn't seem to be a statistically significant portion of the voting population.
And furthermore, the pre-polls are not often reflective of the realities of what happens following the election. And Iowa is hardly ever the 'nail in the coffin' that it sometimes is hyped up to be.
One source, out of many:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/04/iowa-caucus-results_n_1184479.html
KablooieKablam ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:11:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't using the poll to demonstrate that Bernie Sanders is a shoe-in. I was saying him winning isn't a "big if."
illegal_deagle ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:17:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Less than 1% chance, but according to reddit he'll be sworn in next week.
oneeyedpenguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:48 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
By no means do I think he will get the nod, but 1% seems low. Even Vegas is taking him at 6:1
illegal_deagle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:04 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vegas makes odds based on how to attract action. 6:1 means they're giving you shit odds on something that's a long shot. There are enough hopeful people that want to see Bernie in that they'll bet on it. Plus there's always the one in a kajillion chance Hillary starts shouting the n word in public.
Attempt12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:23:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's right, Trump has more of a chance according to the media.
le_petit_dejeuner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:55:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course Trump has more of a chance. He's the frontrunner for his party and is virtually guaranteed to be on the ballot in November.
tinlo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahahaha, according to the media. That's hilarious. You're funny. You should join the Capitol Steps.
Trippze ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:19:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hes beating hillary in almost every state by every demographic, and only 4% under hillary in nation polls, this early. He has the highest chance to win out of any candidate currently
SpikePilgrim ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:31:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If this is true "hes beating hillary in almost every state by every demographic" then how is this true "4% under hillary in nation polls"? Just how "almost" are we talking here?
sashundera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at polls from a few weeks a go and a few months ago. You will see that Hillary continues to drop while Bernie continues to rise, without showing signs of stopping. Put 2 and 2 together and very soon Bernie is gonna lead everywhere.
Trippze ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:42:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hillary is winning by only a small margin where bernie gets almost no media coverage, once primaries start and tv will be forced to show bernies message, he will undoubtedly pass her
docfluty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:40:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah we know... its only 17 out of 20 threads in /r/politics lately.
its like there is nothing else to talk about in the whole us going on than the fact that this guy wont lose by as much as we thought he was going to before heading into the useless iowa primaries weeks from now.
Trippze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:41:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
useless iowa? iowa is the most important state, it's a swing state
docfluty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i said "useless iowa primaries"
as in the same primarie that hucabee won in 2008
Trippze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he wasnt a front runner, or even a runner up at the time. a front runner winning the primary is different
Fuck_A_Suck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Democrats are at a disadvantage anyhow. Non-incumbents from whatever party served last always are.
Andynym ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:43:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not when trump is the front runner for the alternative
Zack_Fair_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:50:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh reddit cynics. Bernie doesn't stand a chance and Trump is a lock. kek
Andynym ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit seems determined to remain convinced that sanders is not a legitimate candidate despite whatever evidence comes out to the contrary.
Then again, Reddit being dogmatically contrarian is not exactly shocking
Trippze ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
republicans have no chance of becoming president, i'll just say that. It's bernie vs hillary for the next president, most of the country is now blue, i don't see republicans getting presidency ever again honestly. it'll be dem vs independent in the future
TheIrishJackel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the country is probably democrat, but not by as large a margin as you think. There are a lot of Republicans and Independents as well. These GoP candidates don't stand a chance because by far the majority of Americans aren't insane. The Republicans that normal moderate people would vote for are being buried under loonies like Trump and Cruz.
Fuck_A_Suck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're in for a real shock then.
Trippze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, it'll be Hillary or Bernie, trump or Cruz have zero chance
Fuck_A_Suck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If Bernie is nominated, a Republican will win. Democrats know it so there might be Hilary. Even then I doubt it would be a two term presidency.
Trippze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not true at all, there's already been polls in Bernie vs repubs and Hillary vs repubs, they both beat trump, and Bernie is more favorable than Hillary
Fuck_A_Suck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Polls are 100% meaningless at this point
baudday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was making a joke... You can do it with anyone! Look, here's Ted Cruz in 8 years if he's elected: http://i.imgur.com/91lbDrU.jpg
Willcallyouidiot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:35:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Half the people at my job don't even know that he's running. It's sad.
mmiller1188 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:39:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only candidate that has a chance is Hillary.
SunriseSurprise ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:59:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What does this have to do with anything?
hateisgoodforyou ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:17:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the great thing about Reddit
We aren't just memers
We are dreamers
slippingparadox ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:36:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is the point of your comment? Do you just want to stir up controversy?
cantusethemain ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:36:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hillary's lead has been plummeting - might be more likely than you think.
Old_man_on_a_scooter ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:41:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay?
sashundera ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:35:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think its a big if anymore, I think there is a 70% chance of happening.
samanco ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:06:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LOL
ManstoorHunter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LMAO
Cinder2010 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:12:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LSHMTFO
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:14:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Muino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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AK_Happy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, what? It's Laugh So Hard My Tits Fuck Owls
Cinder2010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was laughing so hard my turban fell off, it unraveled and made quite the occurrence. My roommate stoped laughing immediately. We both cried.
EasySmeasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8? Slow your roll
Greien218 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This comment wil be gilded soon.
edbro333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sanders is already maxed out age wise
Icweinerx2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well let's all pray that never happens.
ThatGuyFromSweden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I chuckled. Have an upvote.
ProgrammingPants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think his Vice President pick is gonna be more important than other candidate's because... ya'know...
No one lives forever. And he's been around for practically that long.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd give you gold if all of my money wasn't going to Obamacare. /s
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew what was coming but laughed anyway
I_Hate_The_Letter_C ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thank
hashn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol
Gor3fiend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Democrats stand 0 chance at winning this next election. Even now, Cruz and Rubio are ahead of Hillary in the national polling with Trump and Bush sitting at a tie. That gap is only going to get more pronounced once the General Election, and the mudslinging, starts. Hillary has way too much baggage to be electable and Sanders is literally a Socialist.
BreakYourselfFool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I laughed way too hard at that.
Drzhivago138 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking it'd be more like this.
Old_man_Trafford ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If he's elected its only 4 years. He has to be elected twice.
DocFail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good. That will help in negotiations at Camp David.
Comrade2k7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This made my week
vfefer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew this was going to be a picture of the crypt keeper. I clicked, and was not disappointed.
zaturama015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No Palpatine, disappointed
wvtarheel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know this is the highest upvoted anti-Sanders comment in reddit history, right?
suugakusha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You thought I was being anti-Sanders? lol
godofallcows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still got that fly haircut ๐
4zen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was expecting Palpatine, but the Crypt Keeper will do.
mnixxon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why would Sanders look like Hillary does today?
birdsdaword ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, I'm just waiting for him to be giving a speech and get that white crusty stuff on the edge of his lips that old people get. Makes me gag....
Dxtuned ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even have to click and I already knew what the picture would be. Bless you, humourous redditor.
Stones25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know you're joking but no one addresses this. Sanders is an old man, he may pass away in office, who is his legitimate VP?
brekkabek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This actually terrifies me. He's everything I want, but he's scary old and I don't think he could physically handle the presidency.
MonjStrz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking more senator palpatine
JustinitsuJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*when
RC_COW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was hoping for the crypt keeper and you didnt dissapoint me thank you kind sir!
IClogToilets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So he will look just like Hillary.
AngrySquirrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a supporter, and I still got a good laugh from that.
flossdaily ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Feel the Weekend At Bernie's
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still better than Hillary in eight.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looked like that an hour ago.
LegendOfJuan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No joke like for real holy shit seeing him is weird.
LettersFromTheSky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lmao. Honestly I half expected a gravestone.
Yabish044 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what I was just saying... He's like 74 right now lol.
pfx7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
challenge accepted! will vote for him!
Kaiosama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
John McCain should be thankful he didn't win.
tmtProdigy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
genuinely laughed out loud, thanks :D
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doot doot
Wynter_born ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Somewhat more accurate.
He has chosen a healthy career... poorly.
inthedrink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't look like a tombstone to me
skolli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! You caught me off guard and had me in stitches!
dwpc29d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hilarious. have some gold.
starecontest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want him to be president, but I would be scared for his life.
ReallyFnCleverName ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you really deserve that gold
wildmetacirclejerk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
evil dead
00yoshi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does america have an 8 year period?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:12 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He would then be collectively know as colonel sanders. Even looks the part.
PSO2Questions ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:10:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Considering he's Jewish, more like this.
balmanator ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:15:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this could have been a good joke with the right picture.
EpicTacoProject ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:31:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why make a joke if you can meme?
Pentazimyn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I've been seeing this picture referenced more and more and I have no idea what it is. Would anyone care to enlighten me?
kilo4fun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's /r/nfl version of a rickroll that has spread.
Imronburgundy83 ยท 328 points ยท Posted at 15:12:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm the president! I'm going to get so much accomplished!
I'm so tired and no one can agree on anything. It's like babysitting children.
benfranklinthedevil ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 17:17:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Babysitting 350 million children, 535 cousins, 196 neighbors, and 100 crazy uncles.
GodDamnNoGoodNames ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:47:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
320 million*
You_Are_Blank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:02 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only a 9.375% difference.
SilverSeagull ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:05:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wait... who is the 196?
benfranklinthedevil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:17:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Countries in the world = neighbors
SilverSeagull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ah, good catch
TrillPhil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
435 number for the house, obviously 100 is senators. Idk where the 535 number came from?
SilverSeagull ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:14:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ah yeah, I didn't even notice he incorrectly put 535 instead of 435
TrillPhil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:29:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe 196 is number of countries?
SilverSeagull ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thanks, smart thinking
jigielnik ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:35:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ironically, he's actually become more emboldened to get things done now that his term is almost over. He has no one to please, no electorate to win over. Sure, he can't get congress to help but for the first time in his presidency we're seeing him really lean on his executive powers to get things done (see: recent gun control regs) and I love it.
ThePsion5 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:37:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And they get to vote on how you all spend the evening.
"We want pizza"
"I don't have any money."
"Too bad, we have a 2/3rds majority, we're getting pizza."
"But we don't have any money, how are we paying for it?"
"We vote you call China and get them to give you some"
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:11:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least he's doing some good stuff trough his executive orders. It's sad that that's the only way he can accomplish any meaningful change.
LiveFree1773 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And some bad stuff, too.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:47:09 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't see any bad stuff there. It's about time someone does something about your ridiculous gun laws.
LiveFree1773 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:30 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:27:07 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I shouldn't have expected a libertarian to be able to have a civilized discussion.
Beegrene ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd rather deal with two teenagers than Congress.
CarelessCogitation ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost like the system was designed for him to negotiate and build consensus despite disagreement, which is something he's notoriously bad at.
He campaigned as a uniter but didn't have the heart to compromise. Did he really think people would be bowled over by his handsome looks and pre-scripted eloquence?
tavenger5 ยท 163 points ยท Posted at 13:58:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The reversal of all the tie colors is messing with me.
Just1morefix ยท 196 points ยท Posted at 14:18:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his bright red power tie has transformed to a dull grey and black one. A draining job indeed.
RealFunBobby ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 14:57:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His american flag pin even faded
NominallyMusing ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 15:17:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THESE COLORS DON'T RUN
swilson215 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:08:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THAT FLAG DOESN'T FADE.
slunky1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His notebook went from white to black.
shiroishii731 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It looks kind of gold
alexbhood ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:24:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YEAH HIS TIE CHANGED COLORS WHAT A NIGHTMARE OF A JOB THAT I WOULDN'T WISH ON ANYONE
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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alexbhood ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:13:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was part of the implied sarcastic stupidity of the comment. I'm sorry if I hurt your ears.
epicwisdom ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:02:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was a joke. Calm down.
alexbhood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So was what I said. The caps seems to have prevented anyone from getting that. Everyone is reacting strongly to it to a weird extent.
epicwisdom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Caps have a very specific use case, even in jokes.
alexbhood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sort of. But it didn't seem like you got it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:13:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say unless you're a Fortune 500 CEO, the shirt is a lot more negotiable. Stripes, patterns, etc. Tie too, actually. Come to think of it, medium or even lighter grey suits aren't uncommon in business either.
You're right about the suit, at least.
jcarmona24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
even his hands. Right hand then Left hand
contentpens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:32 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't spend too much time checking but I think it went something like red, red, red, blue, red, blue, blue, blue. Red is for being aggressive, blue is for defending what you've done.
theassman95 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:01:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Is it just me or is his wedding ring different too?
keithcraigs ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 14:24:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama in SD vs Obama in HD
Phillbus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:01:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yes, I cant believe how far down this is. Look at his shoulders (suit) the left looks like its made of fur.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno, the second one looks a lot more like SD. That place takes it out of you.
Be-Cunty-To-Kids ยท 498 points ยท Posted at 14:29:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/ALDfY.jpg
El_Dumfuco ยท 156 points ยท Posted at 15:20:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
had no idea Axl Rose was the president once.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:02:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
President of the liquor cabinet.
Hotblack_Desiato_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:19:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The President of Cocaine and Cheap Whiskey.
IAmWinch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just once
inthedrink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
President of fuckin' rock n' roll brah
giveer ยท 165 points ยท Posted at 15:01:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, so is the widening head phenomenon just a weight thing? A Val Kilmer thing? Alcohol thing? What is it? Because it definitely is some kind of thing.
adriaan13 ยท 290 points ยท Posted at 15:08:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think its just a food thing. Val Kilmer did a great job at it though.
giveer ยท 414 points ยท Posted at 15:09:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hot damn, his head flipped over.
FaZaCon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:21:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck you for making me laugh at getting old and out of shape. It happens to us ALL.
DurhamRegionGuy ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:44:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Out of shape only happens if you allow it to.
Here's Val Kilmer now: http://imgur.com/xRs78d3
getlaidanddie ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:14:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like Brad Pitt
k-uke ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Val Pitt
WillemDafuq_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:53:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was he cast in a high budget film?
spartankelli ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:19:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Top Gun 2, man!
Jess52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Top gun 2 finding ensign Goose
seuleterre ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:33:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL Val Kilmer is Brad Pitt
ihavemademistakes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:51:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit I almost died laughing. You've earned yourself some gold.
giveer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:16:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RES tagged 'Treat this guy awesome forever.'
maz-o ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone needs to flip it back.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and his retort
max_500 ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 15:15:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could have been Travolta, chose to be Grimace.
jungl3j1m ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:29:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mama June.
ialsohaveadobro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, no one chooses to be Grimace.
When someone shows signs of being the Chosen One, the Ancient and Perpetual Council of the Grimacean Stewards kidnaps him and carries him away to their Chamber of Trials, burrowed deep within a mountain on a Pacific island. There the Candidate is subjected to a grueling series of ordeals.
If he survives, his status as the Chosen One is confirmed, and he is annointed on the spot. If he dies, his remains are ground up, dehydrated into a powder and shipped to McDonald's HQ, where they are added to the mixture for shakes.
This is the Word of the Clown.
AK_Happy ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 15:35:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RIP jawline.
SnakeDocMaster ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:55:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HOLY SHIT.
It's like he ate another head.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:32:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
damn, his jaw in the first pic is off the chain
darkcustom ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:40:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wish I had a chiseled jawline like that.
flyingeldephants ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:47:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So does Val Kilmer
peepjynx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:03:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing happened to John Travolta and Alec Baldwin... some men get giant head syndrome or something when they age... other's don't. Maybe it's to balance out women who get pear ass.
Meriadocc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his eyebrows changed.
illegal_deagle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:35:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also a throat cancer thing.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He went from having a strong jaw to having three.
durtysox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure Val is dying of something. I think he's Christian Scientist, a religion where you don't get treatment because God. In 2011 he was hospitalized with intense bleeding from the throat. He won't answer speculation as to what he has, but I'm pretty sure it's something horrible.
Axl, on the other hand, seems like a classic addict of some type. He's got a lot of unresolved issues from growing up in a poor and abusive environment. He's apparently impossible to get along with, even by other crazy musicians, which suggests drugs to me. He's done heroin before, but heroin makes you agreeable. He has no reputation for being agreeable. He's very aggressive and bloaty. I'm guessing just alcohol. It can fuck you up just enough to make you an eternal shithead but not kill you for decades.
cryolithic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/54/42/62/544262c193a3390dad4f3a61e6b100af.jpg
shiroishii731 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll never see him in top gun the same
jerry_ishere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The years after the navy where hard on iceman...
MaxAddams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In his defence, this was just before an audition to play Quagmire in the live action adaptation of Family Guy.
ripatmybong ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:10:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weight thing
Vsx ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:38:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's what happens when you gain 150 pounds.
elevendayempire ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:29:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's an "unflattering angle coupled with an action shot" thing, in combination with the aging. Here's a recent shot of him where the photographer hasn't caught him with a daft expression on his face in the middle of running around on stage.
Antebios ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Much better.
xv323 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:15:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't tell if you're just making a general statement or whether you think that's Val Kilmer in those pictures...
giveer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:17:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure no one has ever mistaken Axl Rose for Val Kilmer.
xv323 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Glad to hear it, you had me worried for a moment.
disguy2k ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably due to the type of lens used. Different lenses will appear more flattering than others.
http://imgur.com/NH8WwYZ
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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giveer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? The jaws of life would've been faster.
HarrisDG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a long term steroid side affect
Chilis1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A combination of getting fatter and skin getting saggier.
benfranklinthedevil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to make an hgh comment, but the responses to yours made me laugh too much
ricdesi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who's recently dropped 60 pounds, it's a weight thing. It's fat.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DiCaprio is heading in that direction as well.
leperaffinity56 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:17:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alcohol thing
gorampardos ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 15:20:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How does this happen? He was so good looking. Now he looks like a potato monster.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you got money and stop giving a fuck.
[deleted] ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 15:07:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit - is that for real? Jeez - dude shoulda stayed in paradise city.
Willlll ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:01:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's been dancing with mister Coldstone.
ialsohaveadobro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice.
Khiva ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:17:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spent a little too much time in paradise city I'd see.
That said, he's looking a lot better now.
unklestinky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:14:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ummm he was in paradise city
MalfiteMeIRL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why though? Just because the grass is green and the girls are pretty?
mmmkay_ultra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turned out the girls were green and the grass was covered in broken bottles and needles.
DaWalrusGuy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:43:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty?
garenzy ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:04:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where do we go now?
clavalle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:22:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude turned into Meatloaf of the trailer park.
makattak88 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:03:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's like 30 years though
AK_Happy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:37:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And a sex change.
JooJoona ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:43:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I was just attracted to a man for a second or two there. I thought I was looking at a hot girl but then I saw that "she" had quite large arms... and now I'm confused.
girlfrodo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Axl Rose was super pretty in his heyday.
Hq3473 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:02:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/rx2b8.jpg
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:20 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's for real?
Hq3473 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:56 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah.
Flyberius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks an awful lot like Keith Lemon.
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Long_f7f8e3_2303954.jpg
astern ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:57:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He went full Meat Loaf. Never go full Meat Loaf.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:26:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: He DJ'd the radio station K-DST in GTA: San Andreas. However, since he didn't at any time shriek, nobody realized it was him.
SuperSpaceCowboy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:10:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why the hell does he look like Burgermeister Meisterburger
Krombopulos_Michelle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure what horrible warning his life has been for us, but I'm just going to play it safe and abstain from everything from now on.
drowsap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like an angry biscuit in the second photo
mister11th ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remember when he used to run on stage?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What does he do now? Hoveround?
aprofondir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's cherrypicking images. If you look at other photos of Axl recently he looks much more normal.
hungry_lobster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that scone one was fake. Any validity to ha pic? If so, then damn Axl...just damn
ONLY_DRUNK-WHEN-POST ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:22 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least he grew into his nose
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
who is that?
CommunistDouglas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:30:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Axl Rose, vocalist in the band Guns N' Roses. He was great before, in the late 80s early 90s, but now he's more "meh".
AK_Happy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:36:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"meh" is giving him a lot of credit.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:34:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks dude. I'm pretty sure it's mainly from overexposure since I like them in my teens but I can't stand GNR anymore. Especially every time I hear "Sweet Child of Mine" starting I want to blow my brains out.
TurdFurgis0n ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 15:08:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We should elect a president with a twin so we can do A/B testing to see how bad the presidency really ages someone. Everyone assumes the presidency causes over-aging, but we don't really have a basis for comparison.
Boro84 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:00:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
we do have 44 people who most of which, appear to have aged well faster than the amount of years they served
geo1088 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:43:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But is the accelerated ageing really linked to the presidency, or just those years of a person's life presenting more change than normal? That's the question.
Boro84 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
considering the age difference of all of the presidents entering office being ~30 years, I feel its close, but again, theres no real evidence
Skyblacker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We've had presidents with siblings. At the same ages, how does George W. Bush compare to his brother Jeb?
rebal123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:10:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if the twin is mandated to spend the term(s) length on an island surrounded by beautiful people, chilling out all day and playing volleyball. Haha
kathrynisms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Julian Castro in 2024!
its_real_I_swear ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 14:25:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks nearly 8 years older
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:31:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe even 7.5
mister11th ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
7.59
hilarymeggin ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or 20.
[deleted] ยท 295 points ยท Posted at 13:58:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He did promise change.
It actually is good to see how the office has aged him. It should age anyone who is fully engaged in the weight of the office.
mattintaiwan ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 15:35:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, his hair turning grey means that he was thinking really hard. The bags under his eyes mean he was looking into the future. Man, this talking out of my ass thing is so much fun!
Badvertisement ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:27:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/shittyaskscience
faployst ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:41:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm more of a /r/shittylegaladvice person myself.
cacahuate_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:07:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Skyblacker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read once that Obama actually had gray hair when elected but covered it with dye to look more youthful. Now he's just letting it show.
You_Are_Blank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:08 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please. It's hardly a stretch to claim that the extreme stress of being president can cause a bit of aging. Proven? No. But frankly it would almost be bizarre if it wasn't the case.
mattintaiwan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:15 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, just saying "It should age anyone who is fully engaged the the weight of office" sounds stupid to me. Like, have we ever had any presidents not engaged in their jobs? Just sounds like someone talking out of ther ass to me with blind confidence, that's all
BlasphemousBoss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Top five dumbest things ever
superbek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:46:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NSFW
poeshmoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
omfg. i just cracked up near a crowd of like six people.
Fuck_Me_If_Im_Wrong_ ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:13:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You try living with Michele
[deleted] ยท -104 points ยท Posted at 14:57:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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redbluegreenyellow ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 15:03:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yep, this country is 100% exactly like it was in 2008. Zero changes. Definitely no healthcare, nope.
Podunk14 ยท -50 points ยท Posted at 15:06:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh well if you want to point out the negative changes he made then sure there are lots.
redbluegreenyellow ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 15:13:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, I'm incredibly upset that I am now able to afford healthcare. That bastard!
[deleted] ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 15:16:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except aca didnt make health care more affordable
Balthalzarzo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:48:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well technically because of him i was able to receive free healthcare/dental care worth thousands of dollars. His changes just didn't benefit EVERYONE.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 16:22:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It wasnt free. Someone else paid for it. His changes hurt a lot of people too.
incoherentpanda ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:11:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I made like 14k last year working at target since the gi bill doesn't count for income. Cost like 700 or something on my income tax for not having insurance. That wasn't even a full year without coverage. Not that it isn't my fault for not having any of course.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for your service. What branch were you in?
incoherentpanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was in the army. And I guess people downvoted you because you asked me a question? Wth
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:31 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They are downvoting cause they disagreed with me earlier. Im an AD marine right now. Hooah brother
Badvertisement ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:29:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like Trump with his small loan of a million dollars?
"Get a hold of yourself, woman!" - Ron Swanson
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As far as business loans go, the average is 500,000 for small business loan. With some going up to 4 million. Your mortgage is about a fifth of what he used to created his business. Do you have a fifth what he has?
Badvertisement ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What does this have to do with affordable healthcare? And I'm 17, fuck no I don't. My parents might?
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well you were satirizing the size of his loan, despite actually being a pretty unspectacular business loan. Unless you're just saying "someone with more money than I do paid for it so it doesn't matter because they still have money." as if that is what principle is all about.
Balthalzarzo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Overall the economy seems in a better place though. I've even gotten a raise lol
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Economy changes are way too large of a thing to put on a president. We came out of the housing bubble but the afministration didnt make great strides for that its just the natural way of things. If they had, we'd hear more about it. It wasnt as if Bush damaged the economy. We have an entire Congress to handle our country and this wasnt even what we were discussing
3DGrunge ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 15:34:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is more expensive now. If you can afford it now you could afford it before. The only difference is that now you are fined if you don't have it.
Also my health insurance got much worse and everything is more expensive. The affordable healthcare act fucked me. I can no longer afford to have my wife on my insurance.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:21:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, I got denied twice for health care over the years before the ACA, because of a pre-existing condition (ulcerative colitis). Now I not only qualify, it's very affordable.
akamurph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you thought about why your healthcare is now "very affordable" with your pre-existing condition? Because the majority of people's costs rose to cover your and other's costs.
Great for you and all - but the circle jerk of redditors downvoting people who say their healthcare costs are much more expensive is laughable. Nothing is 'free' children.
3DGrunge ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
See that sucks. The loopholes they had to keep people out. The whole pre-existing conditions thing was a great change.
It is more expensive than ever before for the majority. As I said I can no longer afford to have my wife on my healthcare.
edit: Downvoted for truth and agreeing with the guy on the preexisting conditions portion. Impressive.
Podunk14 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 15:26:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I know! It is cheap at $800/mo for a family and only increasing by 25% a year now! Not to mention all those lucky people who don't qualify for Medicare now and don't make enough to afford government sponsored Healthcare. It's alright though, they can just pay an extra tax at tax time so it's easy.
Let's also not forget that now that hospitals and Healthcare providers are "guaranteed" their money they are raising prices on everything. $10,000 for an aspirin? Why not! Well collect it from insurance since everyone has it and it's state sponsored!
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:35:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
do you have data for this that isn't anecdotal?
I3ombastic ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:34:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where are you getting your information? www.obamasux.com?
The ACA is not without flaws, but is not doing any of the things you describe.
Podunk14 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 16:03:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's not forget blowing up civilians with drone strikes and acting, in his own words, as a terrorist.
I3ombastic ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:25:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right, because no President in the history of the United States has ever authorized the use of military force which sometimes resulted in civilian casualties. That's a brand new, Obama specific thing. Fuck that guy amirite.
Would you rather put American boots on the ground and go through another Iraq?
Podunk14 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would prefer not to be at war at all. But I know that's unrealistic.
However, I don't know if anyone before Obama used drones to attack civilians. Maybe Bush did, but that's been so long ago that I can't remember.
antbates ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is your ethical dilemma with a drone strike versus a long range missile strike? Plenty of Presidents have authorized and used long range missiles strikes.
MindlessCorrective ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:32:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because drones are new and scary.
Podunk14 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:32:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Nothing except with a drone you get to see your target die in real time . But Obama said the use of drones to target civilians was an act of terrorism. Thus calling himself a terrorist
I3ombastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would also prefer to not be at war. No one is targeting civilians.
Podunk14 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol
GreatWhite_Buffalo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have this beef with Obama specifically, but you don't even bother to look into what other presidents have done?
Are you listening to yourself? You sound like the people that consider the Dubya years "the good ol' days" while conveniently forgetting that he left office with a 71% disapproval rating.
Podunk14 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never said I didn't have any beef with anyone else. You're projecting and inferring and you're arguing with your emotions and the "my party isn't wrong" mentality. Fuck off you twat and learn to be objective and stop worrying about what "team" is right or wrong. Bush did a lot of shitty things too and should be considered a war criminal just like Obama. Clinton, Reagan, and likely everyone else except maybe Hamilton since he wasn't around long enough have all done shitty things.
GreatWhite_Buffalo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:55:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a lot of angry words from someone that's accusing me of projecting my emotions.
Objectivity is my greatest strength, but it's clear that it's not welcome here.
Podunk14 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:26:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol
antbates ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Not a single thing you have written here is true. None of it. I get being critical because there is always room for improvement but just stating nonsense is not helpful for anyone.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It seems like its incredibly helpful for the republicans and their conservative base.
Beegrene ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:48:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I, too, hate how low unemployment is these days.
Podunk14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Had nothing to do with him. The recovery was already in place before he took office. He just had to ride the coat tails.
Also, unemployment may be down, but under employment is up
dorekk ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HAHAHAHA WHAT?
periphery72271 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:04:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
coughACAcough
egnaro2007 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:20:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Affordable" cough couch
periphery72271 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:12:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/u/Cowyanks said he didn't change shit.
He did.
It's definitely arguable whether the change was effective or even positive, I'll let you all argue that amongst yourselves. Regardless, it was change and he accomplished it.
BlackMartian ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:23:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's a decent website... http://wtfhasobamadonesofar.com/1/
Tidewater97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree.
kevie3drinks ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 14:29:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He went from Don Glover to Morgan Freeman really fast.
SomethingClever_ ยท 119 points ยท Posted at 15:27:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DongLover?
kevie3drinks ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:45:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
best twitter name ever.
nmarkham96 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://im.seventh8th.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/587.jpg
kitch2495 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was certainly something clever
Admiral_Fancypants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how many people scrambled to get that username after seeing that post.
huck_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:22:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don Glover to Dan Glover
kevie3drinks ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:44:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like he's getting too old for this shit.
theassman95 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:03:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is good made me lol
ViveroCervantes ยท 140 points ยท Posted at 14:06:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency is a hell of a drug
Rybitron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the new cocaine!
large-farva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
mid 40s to early 50s is a hell of drug
maz-o ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So is going from mid-40's to mid-50's
WunWegWunDarWun_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency. Not even once
fakefakedroon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like the guy, but imagine what it will do to Bernie Sanders!
Bernie Sanders at his first State of the Union Address and his last one
buttononmyback ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's only if you dig him up.
PizzaGood ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:38:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember Carter looked about 20 years older over the course of his 4 years. The hostage crisis in the last few months alone beat about 10 years out of him.
kingeryck ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 14:04:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Going from 46 to 54 is a lot of aging for most people.
[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 14:18:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But he started off looking like he was in his 30s, now he's at his 'normal' age.
kingeryck ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 14:25:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, I suppose he did look very young
TwoBonesJones ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:11:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black don't crack
nullsignature ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:17:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think healthy black people just age very well, especially in their 30s. I work with and know several black people in their 30s/40s and they all look 10 years younger than they are.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:25:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my mother is a black woman in her 40s and people still think she's much younger than she is. Her coworkers assumed she had me in her teens when they found out that I'm in my early 20s.
deHavillandDash8Q400 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rubio and Cruz are the same age basically. Some just look better at their age. 40s isn't old and a lot of people don't look old because they really shouldn't look old at that age.
linds360 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he may have eased up on the makeup over the years. I'm not sure what the motive behind that would be, but his skin looks less fake in picture 2.
nkl432790fdewql4321e ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He aged 6 years between the relevant state of the union addresses.
victor018 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:32:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, about eight years worth.
TheDrode ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
About 8 years by my reckoning.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But black normally doesn't crack
traffick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone needs to show before/after photo showing how much 7-9 years in elementary school ages children.
pigeonwiggle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you think it's a midlife thing?
lagspike ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:45:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's what 8 years of dealing with partisan bullshit in the house and senate will do to you.
imagine working retail and dealing with assholes, all the time. now do that for 8 years nonstop.
not fun.
suertedeirish ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 13:37:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He still uses binders.
[deleted] ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 14:14:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if they're full of women
_BindersFullOfWomen_ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:08:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They are. What else would you put in your binders?
wthreye ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 14:21:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had forgotten that one.
deHavillandDash8Q400 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 15:20:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was nothing particularly memorable about it. It was blown way out of proportion.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:04:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guess I'm the only one that thought his aggressive stance on sesame street's big bird was way weirder. But hey, I'm not one to judge mormons.
FuzzySAM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a Mormon, I'm kind of personally offended that he identifies publicly as a Mormon. It has taken and bent the stereotype in a direction that, in my experience, isn't true to us.
Also, random question: what ever came of the RICO charges against him?
deHavillandDash8Q400 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He got hit with the R.I.C.O.?
wthreye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:53 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it was funny as hell.
MakeYouAGif ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:07:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/u/_BindersFullOfWomen_
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:17:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, tinder cleaned Romney out.
ajbpresidente ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wew lad haven't seen that one in a while
swilson215 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I busted that one out last week in the office and no one got for about five minutes.
VICTORYorVIOLENCE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, don't you remember? That was the willful ignorance we used against Romney to get Obama elected twice. It's a dirty job but someone has to give Iran nukes.
Eastcoastbum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:58:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But he made it one page into it in 8 yesrs!
say_huh ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:01:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the first picture notice the blurred natural sheen. This is a telltale sign of (crappy) photo manipulation. Second picture seems accurate, though taken at an awkward moment.
Source: Photo retoucher. Common industry practice is to add highlights back in to a photo after the skin has been smoothed.
Edit: wording.
JelliedHam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:46:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was my thought. Went way way overboard with the skin smoothing on the forehead. This is very bad photoshop retouching. Looks like the auto skin-smoothing "enhancer" some smartphones come with.
Ichiroga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, that effect is disgusting and so so obvious.
arienh4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, this looks a lot more like crappy (video) compression than deliberate retouching. Lot of fade and artifacts, and it would've made sense to touch up the veins too if it were.
apollo888 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:24:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama:
Thanks, America.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope he ends his presidency on some variation of this.
TheSexMuffin ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:26:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So sanders will be a pile of dust if he wins?
multistart11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
gandalf beard
TheSexMuffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you know what, I like that outlook way better
multistart11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wish I knew how to photo edit.
Stannis_Darsh ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:21:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sanders would look like Yoda at this rate.
a300zx4pak ยท 183 points ยท Posted at 14:04:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
damn, looks like he aged 40 years in only 7
SkidMark_wahlberg ยท 430 points ยท Posted at 14:07:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
President years are similar to dog years.
straydog1980 ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 14:36:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dogs only last five minutes in the white house. It's like that scene in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade when the Nazi drinks from the gold cup.
digitalgoodtime ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:42:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quit wagging the dog.
Buki1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So how long are presidents dogs years?
petrichorE6 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 14:16:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It reminds me of how Abraham Lincoln looked before and after he became president.
More: http://www.boredpanda.com/before-and-after-term-us-presidents/
PainMatrix ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 14:33:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure his "after-term" photo is completely accurate.
petrichorE6 ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 14:37:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here.
PainMatrix ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 14:42:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://imgur.com/NNlJwxb
deHavillandDash8Q400 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:15:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was only in his 40s? Yikes.
CommieLoser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gross, he weighs like a ton in this photo.
reddit520 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are certain topics that are off-limits to comedians: JFK, AIDS, the Holocaust. The Lincoln Assassination just recently became funny. I need to see this play like I need a hole in the head. And I hope to someday live in a world where a person could tell a hilarious AIDS joke. It's one of my dreams.
colinmhayes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:23:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It looks to me like they just got the focus right the second time around
swilson215 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:10:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too soon!
deHavillandDash8Q400 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:16:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cameras just improved
AK_Happy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That seems like a lot of the difference. It's like standard definition vs. HD. "Wow, everyone is so much more wrinkly."
3133T ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:00:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Civil war and death of a child will do that to a man.
Xenjael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like Lincoln only got cleaner lol.
blackpony04 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To me this is a far more accurate representation of the wear of office than the one of Obama. Even though it's likely Lincoln had a disease he was a man who hardly rested thanks to the ravages of war, the loss of his favorite child (and the second lost within 12 years), and the instability of his already demanding wife. I've always felt even without the assassination Lincoln gave his life to serve his country....
Starburstnova ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, Truman...
ISaidGoodDey ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 14:23:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't imagine what Bernie Sanders will look like
some-call-me-tim ยท 231 points ยท Posted at 14:25:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dead, he will look dead.
wtfduud ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:07:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sad but true, he's already 74, at that point in life, every year counts. Doesn't help that presidency is a stressful job.
thelonegraywolf ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:37:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's actually in better health than Hillary, she had a brain surgery done 2 years ago for removing a blood clot.
https://youtu.be/RQZLgLf1GM8
Here's Bernie easily outpacing a scuttling reporter
NoFucksGiver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
even more?
๐๏ธ iBleeedorange ยท 111 points ยท Posted at 14:26:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hillary and Trump aren't young either. I wonder if the next president will go two terms.
theagitatist ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 14:53:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Implying Trump wouldn't get plastic surgery to the point where he looks like a glazed donut.
ExcerptMusic ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 14:58:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Glazed Doughnut 2020!
ezekieru ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:57:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're saying that as if he doesn't have million dollars to wipe his wrinkled ass off.
frostiitute ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ezekieru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, if you wipe your ass with a billion, it's kinda too exaggerated.
BizGilwalker ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:57:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think a glazed donut would be an improvement
El_Dumfuco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dank reference
Wraith_GraveSpell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well with hair like that, I doubt Trump really cares if he looks like a leather handbag.
Sonendo ยท 276 points ยท Posted at 14:45:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
John McCain ran for office in 2008. Many people were worried that if elected he would not survive and we would have his Vice President take office (Palin).
This was 8 years ago. He is going to be 80 this year. He is still currently an acting member of the
GalacticSenate onCoruscantEarth.thesequimkid ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 14:54:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I guess I'm voting for
ChancellorEmperor Palpatine.zeekaran ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 14:59:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't vote for an emperor.
thesequimkid ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:11:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You do in my experimental political system. You have a 4-year term of being the Emperor. You get unlimited power, you do not have to deal with pesky oversight committees, congress, or people telling you no. Because the last remnants of the Republic of the United States shall be swept aside, and the regional governors shall have direct control over the states.
Edit: MRW people think I am completely serious about this.
zeekaran ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:24:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds terrifying.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:28:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the idea. Fear will keep them in line. Fear of this battle station.
zeekaran ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:37:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
thesequimkid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:26:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It does. But it's not that bad. Everybody has a job. You are either conscripted into the military, or you find work in the industrial sector.
zeekaran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, now you're just being out of date. Why should everyone have a job and why would we need such a large military?
thesequimkid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keeps people from starving, gives people something to do. The military is just a bonus. On top of having a system where the only major political figure is elected every four years, you have a decently sized military to help keep the borders secure and to keep order and peace within the country. Otherwise, we end up with the failed system of the past. I think people would prefer that we have one person in charge of everything than have two branches that do nothing but fight each other.
zeekaran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure this would have worked better a few hundred years ago than it would today.
popcorn-tastes-good ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What failed system of the past exactly?
The countries with the strongest and oldest public institutions are the countries with powerful legislatures, weak executives, and lots of public debate and argument.
If you suppress debate, disagreement, and argument from occurring inside of the official government process, the disagreements and disputes don't go away, the arguments still exist, they just play out on the streets rather than in the legislature and are more likely to become violent in nature leading to worse consequences for everybody.
Gram64 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:46:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But couldn't the Emperor use his powers to abolish the 4 year Emperor law?
thesequimkid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:48:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, he could. But then that would be the wrong move to make. There is no law saying how many terms he can have, nor will there be. He can have as many terms as Emperor as he wants, or as long as the people vote for him anyway. Then after a while, he'll enact emergency powers that will allow him to have the position indefinitely.
theGoddamnAlgorath ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:09:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What matters isn't who votes for whom, but rather, who counts the votes.
thesequimkid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn straight. Gotta have someone who is non-partial.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:54:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The experiment happened some 2500 years ago in Rome. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't - but I don't see a Cincinnatus among this group.
Seismic_Raptor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:40:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Queen Amidala was an elected official. The Star Wars universe is bonkers.
zeekaran ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:45:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They also practically have limitless energy, but that doesn't seem to have solved any issues.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Crystals
nkl432790fdewql4321e ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:27:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That depends on the political system of said empire, the word emperor doesn't have anything to do with how your take power. The Holy Roman Emperor was an elected office, if you happened to be one of the electors, you absolutely did vote for an emperor.
Well, you voted for a king, and the pope made said king into an emperor afterwards, but same thing really.
zeekaran ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:34:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was really just making a Monty Python joke.
piggbam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Soviet Russia, u dont vote for the emperor, the emperor votes for u!
zeekaran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually the idea behind representative democracy. I don't think Russian emperor's follow the same rules though... I mean, can you imagine asking an emperor to vote on something?
Mister_Inferno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not with that attitude.
ThatLeviathan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, the Holy Roman Emperor was elected for hundreds of years.
TheDrode ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to be king.
CanadianJesus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How come he's the emperor then?
Tibbsy152 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:17:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some watery bint lobbed a scimitar at 'im.
dschneider ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:08:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
moistened
Tibbsy152 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:12:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remembered just a couple of minutes after I posted it, but I didn't edit because it already had some upvotes.
KSPReptile ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:37:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vote for Palantine
hotchocletylesbian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DEW EET
saliczar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean Emporia Palpatine?
skelebone ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:03:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ronald Reagan was also 69 when running for president (snicker), and people gave him grief about his age, and he lived to 93. Carter is 91, George H.W. Bush is 91, Ford lived to 93, and Nixon lived to 81. Johnson died at 64, but he also smoked heavily and gained a lot of weight after the presidency, which really messed with his heart.
Jazz-Cigarettes ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:08:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but a lot of people now believe you can find signs of Reagan's developing Alzheimer's as early as '86 even. So he may not make for the best example of an older candidate remaining hale and hearty.
MattyH ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:34:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that his aides increasingly provided him with note cards to coach him through phone calls and live speaking events. His memory was really going downhill fast at the end of his term.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he didn't die though
Jazz-Cigarettes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, but I think it goes beyond just people worrying about whether the president will literally die, but rather whether any issues relating to advanced age (dementia, energy, disease, etc) could impact their fitness for the job.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think people are worried about what would happen if we suddenly had a skeleton in charge.
rayblasdel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:28:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It just goes to show what having money at an old age can do for your health.
Neglectful_Stranger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:51:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't need money. Pretty sure Presidents get free, permanent health care.
The literal best.
rayblasdel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well if you get to be president on less than a million dollars let me know.
omegian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being merely alive versus being physically, mentally, and emotionally fit for office are entirely fucking different ballgame, right? Reagan was deep into Alzheimer's in his second term. Not a good fit for office, even if he lived 2 more decades.
skelebone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have a citation for that one other than anecdotal evidence and analysis two decades post-term that use vague circumstantial evidence to suggest it? He had a diagnosis in 1994, and while there were symptoms suggesting his progression in the disease before then, that's worlds apart from saying he was deep into Alzheimer's between 1985 and 1989.
omegian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His son says so? His wife informally assumed a lot of his duties? His doctors opened his skull in 89 and noticed the disease but didn't formally diagnose him at the time because it was an emergency intervention? Concealing a disabled president isn't a new thing, see Wilson.
tubadeedoo ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:56:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew he was gonna be okay when I saw McCain's mom at a speech and she stood up like it was nothing.
ThePrussianGrippe ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:55:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, you could say the stress of being a senator is drastically less than that of the presidency.
Aurora_Fatalis ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 14:58:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't even have to walk down to the podium, you can just tell your floating thingy to float there. Super chill.
ThePrussianGrippe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those lucky bastards.
Brio_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:35:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it? How well do you know about the stress of being president? People talk about the stress of being president as if they know what they're talking about. With just as much confidence I could say it isn't too stressful at all. Most days are just bullshit politicking which most presidents would have been doing anyway. Not every day is 9/11.
ThePrussianGrippe ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:58:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And you're talking as if you know what you're talking about, ignoring the fact that the President deals with diplomats, other countries, long term planning, the military, congress, their own party, traveling constantly. Even if "most days are bullshit politicking" was true, the sheer repetition and things to keep track of would be utterly exhausting.
Brio_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:16:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I kind of implied the fact that no one can flat out say how stressful or not it is because most people haven't been president.
ThePrussianGrippe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say you can look at the myriad of books written about it from the inside perspective and conclude that the job is pretty goddamn stressful. Look at the list of responsibilities of the president and look at the list of responsibilities of a senator. They don't compare, that's what I'm talking about.
Xuldun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, he didn't get elected. If he had, it may have been a whole different story.
deHavillandDash8Q400 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He still looks the same
LaoBa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He would have aged much faster with Sarah as Vice President.
"She did what today? Please, not again."
mojolounge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
McCain should thank the American voters for saving his life.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That wasn't just because of his age, it was also because he had skin cancer a couple of times, and because both his father and grandfather died of heart attacks.
MaxJewJew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie Sanders is also older than John McCain was when he ran for office.
EndlersaurusRex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
iirc lots of people were also worried about McCain's healthy because he had multiple heart surgeries or something, no?
Lord_of_Mars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and some day sit on the golden throne... 10000 more years!
whoops, wrong universe.
ScoobiusMaximus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If he was president and he had to deal with Palin's idiocy he might not have lived as long though.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, Bernie probably is going to pick a vice president with an IQ higher than their age, so...I'm not as worried if he dies in office.
intensive-porpoise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:29 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Frackin' Robots! Lemme get a drink...
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:58:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
McCain is doing okay only because he lost the election.
gmtjr ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:05:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Senator is less stressful than president.
tommyjohnpauljones ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 15:03:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ages on Inauguration Day 2017
Hillary: 69 years, 3 months
Trump: 70 years, 7 months
Sanders: 75 years, 3 months
Reagan on his 1981 inauguration: 69 years, 11 months
dont_forget_canada ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 15:08:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
holy shit trump is really 69? holy shit, If you told me he was 50 I would believe you.
NoFucksGiver ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:40:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
implying he didnt get enough plastic surgery to look like a peppa pig doll
thebeginningistheend ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:54:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't tell me that fake tan and awful wig actually works!
SpotNL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:38:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly this. I thought he was late 50s.
Humpty-Numpty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the wig that does it...
Hotblack_Desiato_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, I had no idea Hilary and Trump were that age. I would have figured late fifties, early sixties for both.
tommyjohnpauljones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
By comparison, Marco Rubio is 44.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, it seems that all of the commentary calling Reagan too old for office has magically been erased overnight. What an odd thing.
sbd27 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:06:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More proof we will never have a 'Gen-X' president. By the time the Boomers relinquish power the Millennials will be in charge. I want my EXTREME President!
RunHomeJack ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:59:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah people don't realize they are all roughly the same age
kmanc1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bet trump will become bald
sports_and_wine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never thought about this, but now I wonder who Trump would choose as his running mate were he to get the GOP nomination. Omarosa?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think Trump will enjoy it. He won't be permanently stressed like Obama.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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spoRADicalme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I know what you mean ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 14:30:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is why we need Rand.
Aurora_Fatalis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:59:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To kill the Dark One?
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be a decent president that will not die in office from being old as shit.
LaLongueCarabine ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 14:36:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sanders is 74 he's the oldest by far. I can't see electing someone who would be almost 80 by the end of his first term.
ferminriii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:55:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
McCain is almost 80.
LaLongueCarabine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:30:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know. That was one of the many problems with him in 08 when he was running.
ChocktawNative ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why?
LaLongueCarabine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty high probability of dying or becoming incapacitated or seriously ill. The death or disability of a president is a pretty rough thing to go through as a country and I'd rather not.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's an issue if they choose a competent VP. McCain...did not.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And not president.
Banderbill ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was he elected?
Sonendo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:52:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can I ask why the age of the person in office matters? I can see not trusting dusty old beliefs, but in Sanders' case he has always been rather progressive, even by today's standards.
I could see being worried about health and the possibility of death, but it isn't like the President doesn't have health insurance. They have access to some of the best doctors and treatments in the world. I would think that we could keep them alive.
Look at some of our previous presidents. Many lived to be quite old, and this was before all the advances in modern medicine. Hell many of the original 10 presidents lived to be 80 or more. And they were born in the early 1800's when you could expect to get leeched.
SpatialArchitect ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:57:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your second point is way off. You can't always keep someone alive even if they're the president. Old people die. They don't always last as long as GHWB or Carter.
mclumber1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:58:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reagan likely had dementia or Alzheimers during the last few years of his presidency.
thelonegraywolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's actually in better health than Hillary, she had a brain surgery done 2 years ago for removing a blood clot.
https://youtu.be/RQZLgLf1GM8
Here's Bernie easily outpacing a scuttling reporter
jigielnik ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:34:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie is 7 years older than Hilary... that's a pretty significant difference.
Bernie will be in his 80s if he serves 2 terms. That is something crazy to think about.
ExcerptMusic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:58:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure, but if Hillary won, she'd look like the Crypt Keeper.
TingleMyPringles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The same unless he decides to prestige.
DamienStark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like the guy who chose the wrong grail in Last Crusade...
user_82650 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if each term corresponds to 20 years of aging, by 2020 he will be the equivalent of a 94 year old.
thelonegraywolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's actually in better health than Hillary, she had a brain surgery done 2 years ago for removing a blood clot.
https://youtu.be/RQZLgLf1GM8
Here's Bernie easily outpacing a scuttling reporter
MrMadcap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidents over a certain age don't tend to change quite so noticeably.
Tufflaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/sDSk9gH.gif
lastshotiguess ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:04:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except Bernie won't win so we won't really know.
ISaidGoodDey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:10:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he's well on his way to winning over Hillary
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he wont win the primary
deHavillandDash8Q400 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:13:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly the same since he won't get elected.
ISaidGoodDey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:16:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We'll see in November bruh
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
we'll see at the primary because he's is no the Democratic candidate yet and probably wont be.
deHavillandDash8Q400 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:59:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We will see well before then. Holy shit. Wait. Omg this is the year that the new president will be picked. What the fuck.
potato1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL people who aren't president don't age.
erdschein10 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:30:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
haha, are there actually people naive enough to think he can win.
Xendarq ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 14:27:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neither can Republicans.
ifurmothronlyknw ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:32:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus. I hate how people rag on him. Honestly- unless my man Bernie gets elected i'm going to be pretty nervous when the new guy or gal steps in there.
aviary83 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:59:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like him or hate him, goddamn that is a stressful fucking job.
Lotusfyre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no joke
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:44:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When your girl starts telling you about her day vs. when she finishes.
SlightlyStable ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 13:57:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't there some factoid that says that the stress of being POTUS ages you faster than normal?
toeofcamell ยท 214 points ยท Posted at 14:14:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes see above photo
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:04:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Intense stress ages everyone faster than normal.
michaelscarn00 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:46:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I thought that was more a common sense thing
inku_inku ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:02:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so Bernie Sanders will look like a zombie
ferlessleedr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:20:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His age actually will affect his campaign in terms of his VP. People will be thinking more about the guy who's a heartbeat away if they're honestly worried about that heartbeat.
beelzuhbub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's only 5 years older than Trump and Hillary, interestingly enough.
ferlessleedr ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:34:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks old though. Hillary and Trump have probably both invested in their looks because one is a woman in the public eye and the other is vain as fuck.
thejadefalcon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:13:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If that's Trump giving a shit about how he looks, I'd hate to see what he looks like when he doesn't.
ferlessleedr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm fairly certain he surrounds himself with yes men and as such lives in an echo chamber of his own opinion, never being exposed to reality outside that other than what he chooses to experience. And of course, he only chooses to experience the facets of reality that support him because that's what's easiest to listen to. Criticism is hard.
My point is, he thinks that weird-ass sideways comb-over mullet thing looks good.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This only works if he's running against someone significantly younger than him, like Rubio. Trump is barely younger than Bernie, and looks like shit compared to him anyway.
say_like_it_is ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Zombie apocalypse confrimed
dirty_sprite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What will he look like when the presidency is over?
SlightlyStable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/dKq5ERo.gifv
Falcon_Cunt_Punch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He'll be Mr. Skeletal, Doot
lockon345 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahaha, no silly!
He'll probably just die!
drumbum7991 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:10:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: a factoid is something that sounds true and is passed off as fact, but is actually fiction.
SlightlyStable ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:26:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, but it apparently can also mean something that's true.
reddit520 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:26:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun factoid
assumes-irony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun factoid: a factoid is something that sounds true and is passed off as fact, but is actually a factoid.
FaZaCon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya, living as a literal King sure ages the hell out of you. People that run for the Presidency are doing what they love most, living in the spotlight. Then, as an added bonus, they get to live in a grandiose state of opulent luxury that only a precious few have experienced throughout humanities existence.
Apache_Smack ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:38:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Faces of POTUS
tonguejack-a-shitbox ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:47:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black has cracked.
quincy- ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:03:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black don't crack,unless you're the president
NazzerDawk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All the cracking is from his white side.
TheAlbionKing ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:33:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even the tie turned grey
wittyusernamefailed ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:40:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always makes you wonder how much horrible shit is going on around the world that we never hear about; or the terrorism that just barely gets thwarted and never makes the news. The crisis in the world that are frantically fixed by just a few people. And in the middle of it a President that is rapidly wondering why the hell they ever wanted the job in the first place.
VICTORYorVIOLENCE ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:51:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks
Dennyboy101 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:23:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow it's like he's aged 7 years
A_Knight74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It looks like he aged 20 years.
Killerxjake ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:09:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So being president is equivalent to smoking meth.
mayankkaizen ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:04:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He changed into a southpaw.
arclathe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:08:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he always was one.
say_like_it_is ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:14:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The last 3 presidents are left handed fyi.
Danger-Noodles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
GWB is right handed. That said, despite lefties only accounting for ~9% of the general population, 40% of the last 16 presidents have been left handed. The number may have actually been higher, but being left handed used to be considered a disability, so left handed kids were forced to learn to write with their right hand.
yaypal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Almost half of presidents since they started taking records have been lefties, there's a huge skew off average in politicians and artists.
Also, the first picture seems more natural for a left-hander? I tend to gesture with my right, but maybe that's just me.
mayankkaizen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I commented by looking at pic only, though I wasn't aware of all the facts mentioned in replies to my comment (I am not American).
But yeah, he is making almost same gesture, but with different hand in each picture. I found that interesting.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, that's weird!
PeteEckhart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's always been left handed.
irondentist ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:06:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
$20 trillion dollars worth of stress and aging
echoingtrails ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:58:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chronic elevation in Cortisol will do that to you.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:08:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
reuters put out a great commentary on the the legacy he's leaving...about as bipartisan as you can get this day in age..
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2016/01/12/has-obama-really-changed-america/
onlyacynicalman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:33:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Evil or not, agree or disagree, you have to admit it looks like he gives fucks
AlexDeLarge4848 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:37:22 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No matter what your politics are, you gotta hand it to the guy for having the gumption to take on what is no doubt the most stressful job in the world. Cheers to you Obama!
Aracnah ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:57:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie looks like it's aged.
Emeraldon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:02:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And his American pin flag.
soundscan ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:46:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he went from "yes we can" to "nigga do it yoself"
bittoxic00 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 14:59:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Senator palpatine, how the dark side has changed you
fairdinkumposeur ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:59:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuckin Bernie Sanders gon be lookin like the damned Crypt Keeper come 2024 smh
The0rangeKind ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He'll be the damned Crypt Keeper regardless. He won't be pres
WolfofWaterloo ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately
Aaronmcom ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:26:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Welp. The US isn't taken over by gay communist muslims. So now I can gloat at all the crazy people who believed that would happen.
BiznessCasual ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:32:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't exactly "fix" Washington like he said he would either, so really, no matter who your are, you kinda got fucked.
Aaronmcom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shiet. Better than the alternatives.
BiznessCasual ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:54:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe, maybe not. They're all shit. Every last one. I used to be really into politics and stayed current, and I do still follow world news, but goddamn; as a political moderate (socially liberal, fiscally conservative), I feel like there is literally nobody out there with a legitimate shot at winning that really coincides with my own views. Thing is, being as most Americans generally skew towards the middle (slightly conservative, actually, last I checked), that's how it is for the majority of the American population. The Executive branch, at least, is no longer representative of the will of the people, and it's fucking sad.
Fuck. The only thing I can do is mind my own damn business and manage my own life as best I can. I'm gonna keep doing that; it's working out pretty good right now.
RollofDuctTape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely yes. Country is far better off than it was post-Bush. Despite his flaws Obama's presidency was a success.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:31:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just imagine what Hillary would look like after 8 years. I hope I don't have to find out.
cocojambles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
like this
ranger-falls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Four years in
Calvin_Uncle ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:57:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do not know what is the opinion of the american people about him. But for me, as a guy from Europe, I really, really like him.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:26:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Calvin_Uncle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now I feel stupid. Your answer was really interesting.
Explain one thing to me: what do you call a medical service not affordable? Can you give me an example?
I need to pay for my medical care, of course. But from what I heard, it is really expensive over there in the states.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, conservatives don't love that he's black...
Interus ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:24:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One thing you have to respect about Obama is that dude's has had to stomach a lot of personal attacks unrelated to policy.
If you think about it, he's been the de facto representative of black people in the US. And he's represented his people proudly. He's been a class act with day one, even when his detractors have swung low. It probably takes a lot out of you to keep your chin up and always take the high road when your instinct tells you to call people out on their shit.
VICTORYorVIOLENCE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every president has. Some have experienced much more personal attacks than he has.
MarioY19 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:55:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hope, then Change.
liquidthc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:58:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, black does crack after all.
ThatAgnosticGuy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:07:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's because of his white side.
Prixm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:59:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it not obvious? He made a deal with the Devil himself. And it is taking its toll.
CleverGirlwithadd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:04:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Y'all have put me through some bull shit."
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:24:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the job would kill Bernie Sanders.
mammoth369 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sanders already looks like the "after" picture
Pherras ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:39:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This probably takes 2nd in most dramatic changes of a President. I would say Lincolns is still the worst , he looks literally like the life was completely sucked out of him , understandable though. FDR is bad as well but he was in his 4th term when he died so not really fair to judge him with the same standards as the others
ps4pcxboneu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:44:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does that mean if Sanders gets in he will look like the cryptkeeper at the end of his presidency?
tFalk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:53:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the first one made me sad, the second one made me happy, but still sad because of the content of the speech.
DeVLetItGo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:06:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The stress has taken its toll on him. You can see it all in his face.
Nole_in_ATX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:45:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Left: "Fuck yeah, 'murica! Let's get some shit done!"
Right: "Fuck America... I'm done with this shit."
MelkorHimself ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:17:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A little Just For Men couldn't have hurt.
jzhang172 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:18:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
illustration of what work stress does to you
micahsa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:24:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It looks like we literally sucked the life out of him.
daywalk3r ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:24:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You get old fast when you worry.
poundcakelover ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:33:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Beside normal aging, the stress of the job is taking its toll.
FlyingAce1015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah- you can notice this with all the presidents before and after... shots I have seen it takes a lot from you it seems..
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:40:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jeez, stress truly is a terrible thing.
Goldps ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:51:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks tired as shit.. I don't think I can even imagine the horse shit he's had to endure being president.
Genocide_69 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:05:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie turned gray.
piperpiranha ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:05:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency = Stressful
Mackadelik ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:06:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, even his wedding ring looks a little more worn for wear. 8 years later at what must be one of the most stressful jobs... I'd say he's looking just as good as any other president after 8 years.
N_D_V ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:09:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to see a side-by-side of a normal middle-ages man after aging 8 years
Film_Director ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:18:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You think this is bad you should see JFK's before and after.
YangReddit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:23:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everytime we said "thanks Obama", we slowly drained him...
wilhelmfink4 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:32:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like shit.
Blortuston ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:35:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama looks at least ten years older than President Putin, but President Putin is actually nine years older than Obama.
zmije1kw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:03:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"When you come after Americans, we come after you. It may take time, but we have long memories, and our reach has no limit."
Love him or hate him that's an epic line.
Evilofficial ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:22:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He has seen some shit.
Wellhowboutdat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly my thoughts.
drinkit_or_wearit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:33:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eight years cannot explain that. Being POTUS must actually suck.
LiveFree1773 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it does have the highest mortality rate of any profession.
kernelcolonel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:10:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like he's eight years older
balloon-loser ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:25:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's losing color!
MagicMattC ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:29:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like a printer that slowly ran out of ink.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Motherfucker looks tired out. Being the president must suck. I bet you don't sleep too well.
Damselyn_Distress ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:31:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his ring finger looks haggard.
Snailwatcher ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:32:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his U.S flag pin is tired
lt__ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:32:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It would never happen to Putin.
MunkyNutts ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:33:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heavy lies the crown.
koyima ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:38:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/RL7w8wQ.jpg
CaptainBenza ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:48:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, Bernie will end up looking like Palpatine
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:35:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Best photo of Obama at his first State of the Union address and worst photo at his last one"
The presidency definitely ages you (shit look at Lincoln), but there's no reason to exacerbate the effects with that horrible photo.
jondySauce ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They picked the worst possible picture. He still smiles and cracks jokes. Being potus would surely have negative consequences, but he's also 8 years older.
djkhaledmeme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:35:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie turned grey.
WileEWeeble ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:14 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
2008; "I will wear a red tie and talk with my Right hand to signal my desire to work across party lines"
2016; "Blow me, blue tie and Left hand now you childish hypocritical Congressional fucks"
Fartacus_prime ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:41:28 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
2008: Yes we can. 2016: nigga, do it yourself
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:19:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't want Trump to win...but I do kinda wanna see what happens to his hair by the end of it!
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most presidents have to come clean about their financials when they run. Trump, on the other hand, will FINALLY have to admit it's a wig.
WiseChoices ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:24:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The weight of the world has been on those shoulders. And the haters never ever let up. I think he is the finest president in my lifetime. And I am OLD.
To me, he has done a great job.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You must be old enough that your mind is slipping then if you believe that.
raisedbyraptorss ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:17:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Jesus. Looks like he was marooned on a fuckin island.
BillsFan90 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:20:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Insert joke about covering up for Hillary's lies here:
Obama was in over his head. He was not great but I do not believe he didn't put forth his best effort. 2016 will be big. I think both Bernie and Trump would do our nation well because they're hard workerrs who would walk into the White House minus a long list of people and special interests they owe favors to. If we can avoid a Hillary presidency, we will be good. The establishment's rule may finally come to an end and the people may finally take our nation back.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:58:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trump? Really? We would be the laughing stock of the world.
alexLAD ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:24:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He'd be bad, yeah, but then you guys would want someone left really badly after, so in the long run it would be good.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha I like your thought process, Trump is shock therapy for the american people
BillsFan90 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 16:10:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is such a soft, pathetic, PC argument. Why do you care what the rest of the world thinks? Of course they aren't going to be crazy about a President who has our nation's best interests in mind and not necessarily theirs. Trump won't allow any Syrian refugees. The "rest of the world" wants us to take them all. The "rest of the world" would love a President who resembles their nations ways of thinking but considering how much of them are fairing pretty poorly, they are not who we need to be following. We need to be leading the American Way.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:38:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How's this Trump is a moron who advocates reckless foreign and domestic policy that is not only un-American but unconstitutional. He is a loudmouth who likes nothing more than being the center of attention and is no more fit for the Oval Office than someone like Kanye West. I dont want Trump because I think he's dangerous, sure he provokes discussion but he does so in the manner of a youtube comment section saying the most inflammatory thing he can think of that panders to his base.
BillsFan90 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 16:42:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep drinking the kool-aid buddy. Grow a pair. He will be great for our economy and he will use our national clout to our advantage. He is a leader, hard-worker and high-energy. He is going to win. In the general election all he has to say is Bernie/Hillary will not be able to get anything through Congress. If you want more gridlock, vote for them. If you want Washington cleaned up, our borders secured and jobs back in our country, vote for me. Game over.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:59:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He will drop out before he gets close the candidacy he's not a serious candidate and you're delusional to think otherwise. Candidates like Trump or Cruz will further cause grid lock by his polarizing rhetoric and uncompromising nature. And once again his polices are un-American.
omgitsfletch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:20:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fact there are people who 1) think Trump is a serious candidate and 2) would actually vote for him is literally terrifying to me. I feel like I'm in an alternate reality.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
keeps me up at night
BillsFan90 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:57:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Keeps me up at night". Shows how weak you are mentally.
You can find clips of Trump being asked if he would run for President 25 years ago on Oprah. The mantra that Trump isn't a serious candidate was maybe even valid 4 months ago. He is leading in a lot of polls so how isn't he serious? I can argue none of the Democrats are serious candidates because they know they won't be able to get practically anything through Congress. Sorry, I know that fact must hurt. If you are so educated and such a staunch socialist, why not just move to Europe or Canada? They could sure use your help.
Modern day America has a lot of harsh realities to face and having a candidate who is not afraid to address them head-on is refreshing. No more sweeping under the rug
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Herman Cane was also leading in the poles at one point, remember Mr. "I'll only approve small bills"? Haha how am I a staunch socialist? But you're right encouraging university educated highly skilled individuals out of the country is how we stay on top economically. We have nothing close to socialism in this country even our left is center in most western countries. The gridlock in Washington is caused by the polarization of our political system in that regard both sides will have issues especially Trump/Cruz and Sanders.
pinsandpearls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who cares? Well, I'd like to keep our allies and NOT have China come to collect the debt that we owe them. They outnumber us. Also, not accepting Syrian refugees = helping ISIS. And no, Trump doesn't resemble our nation's way of thinking, except for the very loud racist and bigoted minority.
BillsFan90 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find me one racist quote from Donald Trump's campaign please. Thank you. Literally all the opposition can do is to call Trump a racist because he is right on all the issues, no matter how politically incorrect the truth may be. In reality, he has not said a single racist thing his entire campaign. On CNN the other night the Republican strategist outlined this perfectly and said he will vote Democrat if the Democrat strategist can quote one racist thing Donald Trump has said. Not racist, just honest
Not accepting Syrian refugees, with some already proven to have ISIS ties in our country and foreign countries, in turn helps ISIS in their quest to kill us? OH.
pinsandpearls ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:14:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't have to be in your campaign, though. If someone is a racist, they're a racist.
Before candidacy: "I have black guys counting my money. โฆ I hate it. The only guys I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes all day." He went on to say "laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that."
Or how about in his campaign... the "all Mexican immigrants are rapists" argument during his campaign?: โWhen Mexico sends its people, theyโre not sending their best. Theyโre not sending you. Theyโre not sending you. Theyโre sending people that have lots of problems, and theyโre bringing those problems with us. Theyโre bringing drugs. Theyโre bringing crime. Theyโre rapists."
Or how about casually using slurs?: "Who the f knows? I mean, really, who knows how much the Japs will pay for Manhattan property these days?"
YEAH NOT RACIST AT ALL.
Also, the refugee vetting process is the most comprehensive, difficult process to get through. Pretty sure people with ties to ISIS are going to go through the visa process, which is literally filling out a sheet of paper, rather than a two year extensive background screening. HERP DERP LOGIC DERP
pinsandpearls ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just the fact that he's batshit fucking crazy.
"I've said if Ivanka werenโt my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her." Oh... okay.
BillsFan90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you've already surrendered the notion that he's racist. That's a start even though 20 minute ago you were crying about how he can't be President because he's racist. How about some context with this comment as well. Everyone loved the comment when he said it because it was the context of him saying his daughter is beautiful, smart, hard-working and driven. Miles better of a human being that most privilege children, a testament to Donald the man and father, but I digress. Years later you take that snippet and it sounds off, sure.
The establishment does not want him to get elected because he owes no favors, is not controllable and will make changes that will hurt their way of operation and life, but will make our country better. These are all people have against him, soundbites taken out of context. I can't wait until we experience the REAL change in Washington I was promised when I voted for Obama in 08 at the naive age of 18
pinsandpearls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think "everyone" loved the comment when it was said, because I remember hearing it and thinking it was creepy as all fuck. And no, I didn't surrender any notion that he's racist. I gave examples of where he's racist. He's racist. The end. And yes, Ivanka IS better than most children of privilege. That does not make Donald a good person.
Bernie doesn't owe any favors and is also not controllable. He just also has a moral compass, doesn't claim bankruptcy but preach about how he did it all himself while evading millions of dollars of debt but most students can't get their loans discharged, EVEN THROUGH BANKRUPTCY. He is in it for himself, his fellow 1%ers, and unless you have millions in the bank, he's looking to screw you over too.
BillsFan90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally false. Under Trump's tax plan individuals making less than $20K and families bringing in less than $40K pay zero tax. The top half a percent see a very large increase in what they pay. Just not enough like Bernie wants where they'll move all their money and in some cases themselves overseas and we'll really be screwed. Despite Bernie's berning hatred for the wealthiest and most successful members of our society, the reality is they are also the most important members of our society. Reality will play a big role in Trump's victory this year.
You say Trump's children all being smart and hard-working despite most children of privilege being the opposite does not mean he is a good person. That is true. But it means he is a good coach, a good visionary and a good leader.
Trump is the best of both worlds and a lot of Sanders supporters will ultimately be voting for him vs Hillary in November
pinsandpearls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many of them have already moved their money overseas, and it's been that way for years. And no, the most important members of our society are the people who are working overtime every week trying to make our society and economy function and receiving very little recognition, rather than higher-up CEOs who get bonuses for no reason other than the tax breaks the companies get, and spend their work week golfing.
Further, I fail to see anything about how he's going to crack down on the stupid amounts of corporate welfare. He also proposed FOUR tax brackets (0%, 10%, 20% and 25%). That leads me to believe the highest income taxpayers are going to be paying 25%. Currently, they're supposed to be paying in the mid-thirties. So how is it going to become an increase in what they pay? Yes, most of them evade taxes right now, but that's not going to change under Trump. Where would that 10% tax break be made up, since he always wants to give tax breaks to big corporations (that already don't pay enough in taxes).
He's not an economist, and he's not even a very good businessman. Had he invested wisely, or even opened up a savings account that made sense, he would have billions more than he currently does. I don't want that kind of recklessness running our country. And back to the previous point, you say that it doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks of him but in reality it DOES. We have to coexist with them.
And honestly, I'm pretty sure Bernie's going to get the nod.
BillsFan90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think Bernie is as off the wall as you think Trump is. Trump's views coincide much more with what got us to be the #1 nation in the world and Bernie's coincide much more with what the bankrupt countries of the world look like. But at least they were founded on those principles! Trying to make that transition would be our financial demise. He does mean well though so I respect him in that sense.
Give me a guy who will bring money in from other nation's to support our working class and economy, not redistribute it and push us closer to a class war. Agree to disagree, friend.
On the bright side (in more ways than one), at least neither of us is backing HiLIARy :)
pinsandpearls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:46 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a fallacy, though. Bernie's views are in line with some of the most prosperous countries with the happiest people! Honestly, his website is full of information on how exactly he plans to get his ideas rolling without bankrupting anybody. BUT he's also for equal rights for everyone.
And yeah, I don't trust Hillary as far as I can throw her. Which isn't far, I'm not all that strong.
BillsFan90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:22 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie's views only work in small, highly educated countries. Congress will not allow 1/4 of the drastic changes he is trying to make. We are a nation of over 300 Million people that cover the spectrum. We are leaders in many industries. There are going to be very wealthy people in our nation purely by the numbers. There are going to be people who aren't very well off in comparison, but the reality is they are still better off than 75-80% of the world.
pinsandpearls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:15 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right about Congress. That's why voting is so important, though, and NOT just every 4 years. And yes, this country does need to be better educated. I just don't think having someone in office who's only ever been privileged enough to pay for it is the way to get there. Tuition, while thousands of times more expensive than it was 30 years ago, is still pocket change to a billionaire. :)
BillsFan90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:57 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The privilege card with Donald falls on deaf ears with me. He is one of the hardest working men out there. Work is his life and he's always done it the right way (no schemes, no corruption). He's made a few mistakes along the way but predominately has found a lot of success and has created a lot of jobs for our country. He's done business and negotiated with the best and the brightest. In many cases people more cunning and ruthless than the world leaders he will share a round table with. Sure he has an air of arrogance and I think a lot of use would if we shared the same resume as The Donald, but our nation could also use a kick in the pants and a dose of reality. That is the change I think we need in our leadership
pinsandpearls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:46 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree. I think claiming bankruptcy and getting out of millions of dollars of debt is just as corrupt as the next. He has ties to organized crime. He's been sued for discrimination (and settled out of court because there was enough evidence for him to lose). And yes, he might speak it how he sees it, but two things: he doesn't speak for how all of us see it, and people are so enamored by the fact that he's willing to say all kinds of off the wall stuff that they don't pay attention to the content: Rand Paul: "This is whatโs wrong. Trump bribes all of us. He even bribes Hillary Clinton. Thatโs what he does, he bribes us."
Trump: "Yes, and Iโve bribed you too."
Literally admitted to bribing people (and Rand Paul admitted to taking bribes? Okay...).
Last, but not least, he seems to not give a damn about the constitution and what's in it. There's just so much awful condensed into one person.
pinsandpearls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, sidenote--no, him having a daughter who isn't entitled and is successful does not reflect his ability to lead or do anything, really. If that were true, you wouldn't have families where two children turn out entirely different. Nature and nurture (and both parents) play a role. But we won't get into that debate :)
dapcook ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:41:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yea, I'm gonna keep my politics out of this and just say this.
He looks like a man that is just fucking done and wants to go home.
ComptonBrown ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:04:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not the presidency it's the fact he has 2 teenage daughters
ObamaSitsWhenHePees ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:20:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank god it's his last one.
Boro84 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:45:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the perfect response to those average, everyday Americans who seem to think they know what the president is or isn't doing, or how good he is or isn't doing. News flash to most Americans: You have no fucking clue how hard it is to be the president of the United States of America so you should probably just keep your mouth shut
yeahoksurewhatever ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:18:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, this was monumental. Straight up calling out and owning Trump in all but name, and bringing up gerrymandering, money in politics and making it easier to vote. All stuff I don't remember him ever doing. I haven't felt this way since 2008 for real, and am feeling very emotional how much I'm going to miss this guy. And everyone here's talking about how he's aged or seems tired? He's basically promising he will effectively be Bernie Sanders for this last year, I expected this to be a big deal here.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 14:31:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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iamzombus ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 15:22:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stressful? With all the vacations he took you think it was that stressful?
potato1 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:48:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Obama has taken a fraction of the number of vacation days that Bush and Reagan took: http://www.factcheck.org/2014/08/presidential-vacations/
Downvoting facts that you don't want to believe, eh?
pump_the_brakes_son ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:20:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"381 days at his Texas ranch plus 26 days at his parentsโ home in Kennebunkport, Maine, for a total of 407".........Vacation!
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in my early 30s and literally haven't taken 407 days of vacation in my entire life.
tcasalert ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe people still think this liberal-owned site ran by a newspaper is somehow impartial.
potato1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Do you doubt the numbers given? Would you like to provide an alternative set of numbers that you find more trustworthy?
These other sources all corroborate that Obama has taken a fraction as many vacation days as W. Bush:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/aug/23/who-took-more-vacation-george-w-bush-or-barack-oba/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-presidential-vacations/2014/08/15/2aa969c6-2311-11e4-958c-268a320a60ce_story.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/compared-to-past-presidents-obama-takes-few-vacations/
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-s-vacations-and-golf-outings--by-the-numbers-211532262.html
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/many-vacation-days-u-s-presidents-take/
Continuing to downvote facts you don't like huh? And you guys say liberals ignore reality...
Amplifix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guess I will never be voting for you.
iamzombus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a safe bet.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama has taken very little in the way of vacation. There is no real time off as President anyways unlike your job The President doesn't really get to go home at 5.
GuyWith3Testicles ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:09:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wake up sheeple. Obama aged 8 years yet looks like he gained over 20. Why? The answer is simple.
Reptiles age like dog years but even more accelerated. In reptilian years Obama aged 340 years in the span of 8, and it shows. Luckily for him being apart of the Grand Reptilian Chancellor Committee makes him pretty much immortal. When he turns around 94 in human years (he will be 1300 years old in reptilian by then) he will most likely shed his skin and reveal himself to the world. Wake up you fucking idiots. We are about to all be shipped to FEMA camps in Gitmo and have forced abortions while the Reptilian gov't takes our guns and shoots our women and children with them.
Check mate libtards
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:55:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've given up hope
entropystoragedevice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Suddenly, it all makes sense. He shed his tail. I can sleep now.
Kolecr01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:25:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Geez, he also became whiter
__Noodles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
10:1 he used to "black up" with makeup or tanning or something.
kevie3drinks ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:34:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He must have... Jacksonitus.
LaLongueCarabine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:35:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is one job that really ages a person
Jdp111987 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:54:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow if I didn't know better I'd guess he looks 6-7 years older in the second picture.
dontaxmebro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:56:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie Sanders already looks like he's been the president for .8 years.
dasodacova ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:57:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can wet get one of Franklin Roosevelt?
Badloss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:57:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anybody else think that Sanders and Clinton would both die in office?
thelonegraywolf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:35:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's actually in better health than Hillary, she had a brain surgery done 2 years ago for removing a blood clot.
https://youtu.be/RQZLgLf1GM8
Here's Bernie easily outpacing a scuttling reporter
Falcon_Cunt_Punch ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:15:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah. Both have really great health. In Bernie's case all he has is a hernia.
wufoo2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:57:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly he hasn't taken enough time off.
Fighterpilot108 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:59:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, even his tie faded
JFKFC1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:06:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's seen some shit.
CAN_THRUST_HILLARY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YOU LIE!!!!
BaconPit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you imagine what Sanders would look like after four or eight years in office?
seobrien ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:09:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A ha! He switched ties. Flip flopper.
McCourt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:10:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like a Podling drained of its Essence.
deeweromekoms ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:10:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Knowing aliens exist and not being able to tell anyone.
Emperor_Zar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:10:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone really needs to do a compilation of presidents and they are before and after photos. It was said before, Presidency, not even once.
Ronald--Raygun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jeez that's depressing. I didn't vote for him, but I admire him for the stress he's had to tolerate.
thedonutman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:13:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While yes it's been 8 years, he's aged probably 15 in this time. Like him or not, being the POTUS is not an easy job for anyone.
dreweatall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:13:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's looks due for a cold drink on a beach
fe360 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's aged at least 15 years, over the course of 8 years
ryanteaguebeckwith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:22:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SOURCE: http://time.com/4178368/barack-obama-state-of-the-union-age-sotu/
Maybe next time op can credit the hard-working reporters who come up with this stuff.
alphalez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:22:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like a freshman with hopes and dreams. Then, a senior just wanting out.
tylerdude911 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:22:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's seen some stuff.
pittstop33 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:22:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, it looks like the stress of being president aged him by about 8 years!
KalleJoKI ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:23:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As he got older he got a lot sadder
threemuch63 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. I'm 8 years older too.
thebestisyetocome ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:25:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nnnnow... Let me be clear.
LefthandedLunatic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:25:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What will happen to Trumps luscious hair ;-;
BiznessCasual ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's safe; it's made of a space-age polymer.
greylantern ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:27:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He went from hope to nope.
WolfNippleChips ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:31:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant
QuagganBorn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:31:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, even his tie has gone grey.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:32:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years and 100,000 pounds of pressure.
SpudgeBoy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:32:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years ago I didn't have any gray hair or a bald spot. Lot changes in 8 years.
joeyoungblood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:33:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what happens when you spend 8 years eavesdropping on people's phone sex conversations and internet browsing histories.
Stickbot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:37:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And we wonder why there's never any good presidential candidates. Can't be too smart to want to put yourself through that. No thank you, I'll take my 9-5 any day.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like when they CGI de-aged Michael Douglas for Ant-man.
TheDrode ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:41:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is, his last one if he doesn't declare himself Godking in the next few months.
Chairmanman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone 8 years ago and now.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:44:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The world needs more leaders like Barack. It will be sad to see him go.
Clemalum07 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:49:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"leader"
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:45:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
at this rate bernie sanders will be a skeleton at the end of his presidency.
ghstfcekillah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:46:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama: Always pointing the finger.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:48:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. He's aged. I would defy anyone not to do so in 6 years.
60k_Risk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:48:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie is gray now.
i_donno ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:49:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
In the speech he had to explain why carpet bombing civilians was a bad idea. (Really!). An indication of how frustrating the job must be.
hdhale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except that no one is endorsing the carpeting bombing of civilians, nor was it an issue that needed to be addressed.
i_donno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/265681-obama-cruzs-carpet-bombing-call-doesnt-pass-muster
hdhale ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:10:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get the feeling that if Obama were president instead of Harry Truman in 1945, we'd still be fighting the Japanese.
Cruz is advocating total war. Obama sweats sending a drone in and accidentally hitting the wrong building. Meanwhile, ISIS/ISIL doesn't give any fucks.
i_donno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
We're the good guys. We should care when a drone hits the wrong target
hdhale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We were the good guys in 1944. That didn't stop us from killing civilians, not because we necessarily targeted them, but because war is hard and people die. Today the likes of Patton and LeMay would be handed over by Obama to the U.N. for war crimes trials. He simply doesn't have the stomach for the hard jobs. Hell, he can't even give a "fuck you, I'll do what I want" speech on gun control without surrounding himself with supporters.
Mind you, people living in the 1940s weren't necessarily better than us, but they understood what large stakes really were and they did not hesitate.
dorekk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:30:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fuck is wrong with you?
hdhale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:02 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The better questions is, "what's wrong with you?"
Your enemy is fighting a total war, you and yours want to go play peace keeper. You'll never win.
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:35 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smh
RoyallyTenenbaumed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:51:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So if Bernie Sanders becomes the Prez, he'll be a skeleton by the end of his tenure?
thankkieu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:51:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't he still smoke? This would also make him age much quicker.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:52:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, even his tie aged.
havasc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:53:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What a lot of people don't realize when these pictures are trotted out, is that for most of these guys, in their 40s-50s, the natural ageing process is poised to kick in already. Sure it is a stressful job, but you can't tell me that these guys would look exactly the same 8 years later had they not become president.
vo5100 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, Proof that being POTUS will age you
why_not_both___ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a look at his pinky on both pictures. Young one show confidence, old Barry isn't as much.
JediSange ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:57:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Crazy. Regardless of how you feel about him politically, I feel like it is such a burden to do that job. Mad respect.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:57:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Abe Lincoln
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:59:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: People get older
Citadel_Cowboy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:01:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does this mean if Bernie is elected he'll turn into Palpatine?
pufferpig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"You don't know the power of the Bern side!"
Or...
"UNLIMITED BERNIE!!!" (someone photoshop that!)
Anyway, as a Norwegian, grown up in a socialist country (And as a someone taking a bachelor in renewable energy, and a bit of a leftie), I find the current US election very interesting to follow.
Citadel_Cowboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OH, I wish I was on the outside looking in. It's definitely interesting, but with that looming threat of a Cruz or Trump presidency I'm thinking more and more than emigration might be a good idea. It was funny when the Simpsons did it. Reality is much different. Does Norway have any openings?
pufferpig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hehe, sure... We've had a big influx in refugees this past year, but nothing too staggering. Immigrants are welcomed, as long as you do your best to get a job and contribute to society.
You know... The usual deal :P
onbran ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:01:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ended looking better than JFK
ChaseDFW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:03:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"It's true. All of it. The Dark side, the Jedi. They're real."
underthelimetree ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:05:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what happens when you find out about the aliens
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:06:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see this posted all the time, but it's not really useful without data of aging for non-Presidents around the same age. Right?
ak1368a ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:06:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my lord, its like he aged 8 years
helloryan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:07:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Let me tell you... I have seen some shit"
Thank you for your service, sir.
uninc4life2010 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:07:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Christ, the dude looks like he's aged at least 7 years!
Ieffingsuck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:09:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder what it's going to make Bernie look like
ElectroFlannelGore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:25:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/96SQuRP.jpg
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:10:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've aged terribly snake.
Old_man_Trafford ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:12:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit!!! It's like 8 years have gone by!!
Political_Prostitute ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:14:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what happens when you sit in an office all day not doing anything.
3_eyes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:17:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he definitely looks somewhat jaded in the right picture, its amazing what being one of the most powerful people in the world can do.
leifer2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:19:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I say we all vote for Rob Lowe and see what happens to a man that doesn't age.
emaciated_pecan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:20:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The amount of stress shown by the gray hair is indicative of years of hiding secrets and knowing inconvenient truths
wzrdmn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:20:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
By the looks of it you'd think he'd been moisture farming the past 8 years.
Babu_Honey_Bandger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:21:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So weird, it's as if he aged as time went by.
SporadicSheep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But it looks like more than 8 years though.
dinosaurkiller ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:22:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When 900 years old you reach, look as good, you will not.
PandaSex666 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:23:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency is a hell of a drug.
fayryover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:24:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie got greyer...
midnightJizzla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:24:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
all he needs is a dye job and a couple shots of botox
Putin:* You're doing it wrong.*
Yourstruly75 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:24:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cast the ring into the fire, Frodobama!
merktler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:27:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fuck, he looks like he's aged 8 years.
Fly_W_Sunny ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:28:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hot damn!
finalri0t ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:28:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
0 to 100 real quick
ATX_native ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol, well played
chef27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:30:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he has worked hard
UnidentifiedFlop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:31:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Despite some of his failures, I think Obama was the best candidate out of either of his elections. The United States political system is a failure in general. Republicans have fought to make any sort of progress on healthcare, education and assistance programs, and that includes veterans. Combine that with a lust for wealth, despite the already existing wealth inequality, and it's no surprise that Obama has had so many issues. If we had a republican president, the. Democrats would do the same crap to their candidate. There are almost no legitimate people that want to do what's best for the United States citizens, but I do believe Obama actually cares about us.It doesn't help that so many people in this country are racist and undeeducated.
chickynugget ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:35:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His wedding ring is loose now.
kariout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:38:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's like 7-8 year apart. I think that's a reasonable amount of aging but that's just me.
mscman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, at first I thought this was all stress, but then realized it's been almost a decade. I definitely don't look the same as I did 8 years ago.
leighshakespeare ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:39:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like 8 years went by
TokesMcSmokes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:40:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well yea he's sick of our shit
QueenSeaMonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:40:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But he is also a smoker. He never quit. Smoking ages people boys and girls.
AnimusNoctis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:41:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FDR is probably the most dramatic
Neverwrite ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:43:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It has to be that they dye their hair and wear make up and then later don't give a fuck. Either that or there is some machine that drains the life out of presidents to make sure the old gods are appeased
katekant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:43:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
2020? http://i.imgur.com/GoL3pOv.jpg
mastaquake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:47:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
According to his ties he a flip flopper.
lbiggy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:51:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. If Bernie gets in he's going to look like shit.
Shiroyuki92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:53:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Power of the Dark Side
dontforgetthisok ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:54:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like Bernie and he's got my vote but itll kill him
boofgypeme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:55:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
heavy is the head that wears the crown
De_La_Dank ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:00:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He has seen all that is wrong with the world
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:01:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Holy cow! It's almost as if he aged 8 years and went from his 40's to his 50's...
Blortuston ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:02:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fresh air of Mother Russia has preserved President Putin in excellent health. Mr. Obama should consider retiring to Russia for his health.
MicOxlong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:02:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, you really see his weight loss if you look at his ring finger.
romeo_0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:04:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks 8 years older
zachpoz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:04:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If Trump wins, we'll have this to look forward too... http://i.imgur.com/hmNsja6.jpg
Gabrielasse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:04:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Used to wag index finger on left hand, now wags index on right hand. Presidency will change you
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:05:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie sanders would look like the crypt keeper after his first term.
lebron181 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:05:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not even Black genes could save him.
Treebrook ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:05:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Notice how the colour of his skin, hair, pin, and tie dulled.
conkerts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its almost like a significant amount of time has passed between then
DaddyCatALSO ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:08:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a well-known phenomenon. Being POTUS causes aging, most PResidents show the strain in their faces very soon.
TheMediumPanda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's confirming in many ways. Here in China, the leaders are so full of botox and dripping from black hair dye that only their growing girth reveal their age.
Delicate-Flower ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair he was already starting to grey and it is almost a decade later.
TZeh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:17:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well, that's also almost 8 years.
razeus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:18:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at the improvement in optical camera quality over the years though...
bonez_253 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:18:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
woow, his probably glad its over.
timmshady ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:18:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm putting this in my cubical. Any time I feel like my job is stressful, I'm going to give it a little looksy.
fedora_lover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:19:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://imgur.com/ASSfpfS
bitNine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:20:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years of bullshit will do that to anyone
whatsaustindoin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heavy weighs the crown.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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canadianbacon007 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
46 to 54 is big, stressful job isn't gonna keep him pretty either
Shamrock013 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Succumbed to the Dark side he has.
onelasttime ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see a 47 year-old on the left and a 54-year old on the right. What's the big deal?
Straydog1018 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This may be one of the most depressing picture comparisons I've ever seen... He literally looks like he has just had the life sucked clean out of him.
spyfire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:26:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
congress, not even once.
___ok ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:26:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think in the second term you just stop using just for men.
ModernKaveman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every multi-term President looks much older (towards the end of their last term). They stress of the job and seeing the current state of World affairs can age you.
hks9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The weight of the world is indeed heavy
VICTORYorVIOLENCE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:33:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama looks like he got the shit kicked out of him with a copy of the Constitution.
imnotagringo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like he aged 8 years or something.
nineznuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks more like twenty. That job has a tendency to accelerate the aging process.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Letting islam destroy the world is stressful
Train2Win ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think of what Trump would look like lol
lordcris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:41:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie Sanders 2020 https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_n6xMnaJAvkE/TMoKQbkI41I/AAAAAAAAAIY/St5qtY-VB_Q/s1600/PA280081.JPG
WhoIsGroot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
President. Not even once.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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formlessfish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So being the president is the equivalent of having force lightning reflected back into your face? Good to know
Dogballs47 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He'll get a few years back once he's out of office. W looks younger now than when he finished his term.
egan_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Surprisingly he looks older 8 years later. Not to mention he doesn't have to work on his appearance so much when he's not running for election.
TWTW40 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:43:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have always wanted to see examples of similar aged individuals aging over this one period for comparison.
toughguy375 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:43:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The second one is the first one's dad.
Clap4boobies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:43:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like he's aged 8 years. Gasp
Abomm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:43:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He really doesn't look that much older
RomoToDez99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He aged so fast, being president must be very stressful
TheShaunD ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even the tie is turning grey!
PsychMarketing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I understand it's 8 years, at an older age - but man, presidents really put on a lot of years during their stay in office. He looks so young, youthful and full of hope in the left one - and the second one, he looks seasoned, older, exhausted, and just done...
ForceDisciple ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like he aged 8 years :(
Smegaredranger420 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His suit still look fresh as hell though.
RomanPardee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:47:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If being president does this to his body, what do you think it does to his mind? I feel like presidents should go through yearly psych evaluation, if they don't already.
sanwa686 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't even a proper representation of his manor at the State of the Union. He was actually pretty lively and cracking jokes the whole time.
AcidSnowScArab ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The color saturation between the two pics is totally different. Look at the bloom around his white undershirt in the first pic.
D3adkl0wn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heavy is the head that wears the crown..
Pm_me_ur_buttocks_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:59:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If Bernie gets elected, being President is gonna kill him
Walrave ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:59:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fortunately he went back to his leftist roots before he bows out.
rippleman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie has had the youth sucked out of it.
Hallefa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm getting too old for this shit.
CodgerConsulting ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, golf is a very stressful game!
Bblanco56 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All that power drained him.
honeybadger1984 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dem drone strike authorizations have taken their toll.
Sleeves_are_4_bitchz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seen some shit.
Tastygroove ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His body double aged rapidly.
OGsquirel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn even his tie went gray
fizzohm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahahahahahahahhahah
MikeyMike7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like the before and after in a Faces of Meth psa, but instead of meth, it's Republicans.
skyraiser9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was consuming republicans!?!?
flashnash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:11:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THIS JUST IN: People age
JoyousFam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He swapped ties with the guy behind him
ffca ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is normal in the transition from 40's to 50's.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well the Dark Side takes a toll on one's appearance - you should see pictures of Palpatine when he was young!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being president looks taxing.
Aesop_Rocks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm late but check out his hands. More specifically, his wedding ring. It was a little loose in the first pic, but I don't know how he keeps it on these days.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow presidents age? Maybe next we'll talk about how water is wet
elint ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, he looks like he's 8 years older!
DatAEK971 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just remember- http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/2/9/7/8/4/1/Darth-Obama-Soros-90182572330.jpeg
traffick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13olfeD026g
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Channeling the Dark Side will do that to you.
Blortuston ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
President Putin is nine years older than Mr. Obama, yet Obama appears tired and old compared to President Putin. Obama needs a long vacation in Russia.
Bodegus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wrong pic. He wore a green tie at the SOTU
NeXTBYTE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He should be sad. What a fuck up
g_wax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Power withers, corrupts and destroys...
toastiesguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every neck beard is telling themselves "That's why I'll never be president"
Steisy_Jake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. He became left-handed.
AgentTexes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well most presidents are actually left-handed.
BahamianRhapsody ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, what? Are you telling me that people over 40 age and get older in a span of eight fucking years?
iMissMacandCheese ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine what Sanders would look like after 8 years.
skyraiser9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm picturing Skeletor
jazuminchan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The presidential years have not been kind. :(
ChloroformVictim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just makes you wonder how much of that is due to natural aging, and how much is attributed to his occupational pressure.
mattyrs500 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is like meth.... President not even once
RMJ1984 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure what it is with presidents. But it must be all the stress of being on 24/7. Because president age like nobody else. It looks like he aged 20 years if you ask me.
Eder_Cheddar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone running for office will probably back out after seeing this.
You sacrifice your life for your country. All the stress you have to deal with. Not only domestically but internationally?
It's a miracle he doesn't look worse.
He deserves a good long rest once he finally finishes his term.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:40:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks so serious now, like having to deal with all the 8 years of bullshit has taken a toll on his hopeful beliefs. Sucked him dry.
I-YELL-A-LOT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
6 YEARS IN THE ARMY DID THAT TOO ME ALSO! and that was from 19-25. STRESS IS A BITCH.
paintlegz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like Obama and his dad.
average_user_421 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a horrible fucking job and everyone who applies to it needs to be scrutinize with a million different microscopes.
GangstaRIB ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is not anything new. Look at all presidents that have served 2 terms.... it definitely kicks your ass
idiotsloveboxes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:49:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Americans don't talk about this fact nearly enough: BEING PRESIDENT SUCKS. It is one of the most stressful and drawn out things anyone can do. Their health and family lives always seem to suffer, beyond the normal things that come with age.
I would never want to be President. If you become Pres, NORMAL LIFE IS OVER. I can walk out my front door, walk down the street, buy milk, and walk back without any reasonable concern of snipers or being recognized by literally everyone. An ex-Pres can't do that without a buttload of security and planning. My spouse will never have a normal ordinary life again. My children probably won't either.
Not to mention my face on protest signs the world over...
Jackie9688 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is so sexy ๐
deesnoop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His tie definitely got a lot darker.
DeepPurplefave ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just turned 55 and suddenly got cheap and started to dream of cruising.
PigeonsOnYourBalcony ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So he's left-handed now?
thisisnotoz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why anyone would want to be President. Seems like a bunch o crap.
InDNile ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well hes certainly no putin.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks so young in the first one I'm surprised the cops aren't shooting at him
mysticode ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
USA is a helluva drug!
SMLLR ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't even both mentioning it has been EIGHT years.
drowsap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This just in, people get old.
iLockandKey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While I am fond of Mr Obama's oratory skills, he has not came out as a statesman I assumed he would be. He was hesitant, lacked judgement and made more enemies than friends. Like his predecessors, he won't be missed.
GandalfSwagOff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT people expressing their opinions on Obama.
DoctorSnape ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost like people look older after 7 years. Who knew?
Quarryman58 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, the microphone is all grown up! :')
ademnus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every president walks out a life-sucked husk. I couldn't even imagine the stresses of that job. The daily schedule alone is enough to make you barf.
jacobglover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean to tell me that all black guys don't age like Will Smith?
Brauney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:18:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hmm If you look close, you see the left one is touched up or smoothed up, while the right one is really sharp in contrast so you can see his wrinkles more.
SirTickleTots ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years can do wonders for television technology
Brauney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
true dat, but I still think they are choosen for that on purpose.
FortyYearOldVirgin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:19:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should see my 10 yr old picture against my 18 yr old picture. Big difference!
Wellhowboutdat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pubes or it didn't happen
58king ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People talk about the stresses of presidency a lot, but 8 years is a long time! That is a significant fraction of his entire life, you can expect ageing between 46 and 54.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know how moms look at the end of one particularly shite day with the kids?
Imagine that every day for 8 years, but with 319 million kids and their stupidass friends whose parents live by different rules. Sorry, Obama.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow it's almost as if he's aged 8 years.
Joksta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:28:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
POTUS... not even once
golf11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can only imagine what Bernie Sanders would look like after a year in office
chi3fdoodie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:35:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gah he switched pointing hands!
supercash4you ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PointingLecturing handCattrading ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:39:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageing
Bo-ba ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too much golf?
HeyZuesHChrist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm always amazed when I see pictures of Presidents when they enter office and when they leave. It's always the same. They always look completely beat up and broken compared to when they took office.
SillessOne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie turned gray.
Richeh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, they even sucked the life out of his tie.
sparrowlasso ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:54:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AbsurdParadigm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's getting REAL tired of our shit! :)
sircharlesthesecond ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:58:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even the flag pin aged
TheSnoz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hope Vs I'm over you dumb fucks.
mikerhoa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel bad for him. It's a stressful job, and he seems likely a genuinely decent person after it's all said and done.
I couldn't imagine dealing with the garbage he's had to put up with over the years. There are some truly shitty human beings he's had to placate and negotiate around over his term.
I admire that, but I also pity it in a way...
Kahlypso ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Motherfucker lookin like Gustavo Fring
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I've seen things..." -Obama
netseW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He honestly looks like he smoked about 100,000 cigarettes during his presidency.
p226r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this just proves how stressful golf really is
bokmanrocks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any notice this went from 9k upvotes to 7k?
Ylissian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any other comparisons of other U.S Presidents?
3deepfilms ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WOW! OBAMA looks so worn down and he's ages like 20 yrs.
killxorxbexkilled ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black does crack.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:31:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://media.giphy.com/media/keuNoOuTb1D4A/giphy.gif
killxorxbexkilled ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I legit chuckled. Low key...but still chuckled.
TaylorsAndComics ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I bet I looked pretty different 8 years ago when I was 11
thestareater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's been almost 8 years no? Why is this surprising?
TheGimpyNinja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very powerful picture
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his FINGERS look older.
Marc551 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really took a fucking toll at him them 8 years!!!
dotheydeliver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine he had kept smoking.
hopteach ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:13:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
teaching, year one: september / june. maybe even september / december.
bspringer1997 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Became president at 34, left presidency at 65 eight years later.
MrRiggs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks beat.
jmelchio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:26:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine Bernie Sanders after 8 years!... Never mind he would probably die before 8 years.
jub672 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Government, Not even once.
verbatim2242 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's been through some shit.
dupek1986 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This man has seen some shit.
billtipp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what dealing with "Muricans" will do to you!!!
MexicanGuey92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:57:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his suit got grayer..
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Y'all done stressed this man
DocSnivy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And still the same half-windsor knot. Shameful.
zkkaiser ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost as if 8 years could age you or something?
midnighthearts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hes so worn out he's got forest whitaker eye
billupbanks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:35:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
At this rate, Bernie Sanders would be dead two weeks into presidency.
clockworkgirl21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's only 6 years older than Hillary.
billupbanks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So she'll be dead 2 weeks into Bernie Sanders presidency as well?
FranksGun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:03 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Give me one dead Bernie for president.
paracog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sad to say, but that's why I'm not voting for Bernie.
lazybumsucker1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:34:00 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went from 20 to 27 so far during his time in the office and I feel like I aged just as much as he did. Life was rough these past eight years.
bobbysworld ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:39 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even the flag pin looks worn.
LittleKnownQuotes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:39 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost like he aged 8 years or something. So weird and unexpected.
throwaway_holla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:45 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The skin damage is caused by smoking much more than age.
votchamacallit_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:31 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From ''hopeful'' to ''I'm Sick of your shit to be quite honest...''
zetsui ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:07 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To his credit...looks a lot better than Kennedy
veggiter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:54:49 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Damn. It looks like he aged almost a decade.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:09:05 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's more machine than man now. Twisted and Evil.
MajorLaz0rz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:59:19 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, just look at the difference between someone who is 8 and 16. Of course they aren't going to look the same.
fokjoudoos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:13 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Republicunts!
benciyim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:47:59 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
according to how-old.net http://imgur.com/b51S25p
SethSeverino ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:35 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Young Obama looks like old Obama's son
pm_your_netflix_Queu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:14:34 on February 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what did we do to him!?
Oh god all those "thanks obama jokes" I am sorry! I didnt know!
MesMeMe ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:48:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL you age in 8 years
CaptSmallShlong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's a lot more than 8 years of aging
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's really not.
Iwritewordsformoney ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:20:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, he looks almost ten years older.
ghostalker47423 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Almost 10, but not quite...
Mrcollaborator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's alsmost as if years have passed since the first and second picture.
Master_Tallness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:46:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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justhinkn5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hes not that shade of black..
NervousAddie ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, only his Kansas half cracked. Could be worse.
SmokingPopes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:20:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He desperately needs a self-portrait in the White House attic
mcaffrey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:32:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In his 8 years, he gave up more than 8 years of his life in service. He had to take an advance on his remaining years as well. He'll die younger because of taking that job.
smitteh ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:20:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
8 years? We should all be so lucky as to only give 8 years. Instead, we give away 40+ years of our precious time on this earth, slaving away at a job we hate, making someone we don't know richer and richer, while our own bodies grow weaker and weaker, breaking down from constant weight of the work itself and also the knowledge that this is not a life we were meant to endure, yet we must or we will be cast away to starve or freeze to death on the streets.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:08:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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smitteh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My back hurts.
bourbondog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being the CEO of a country is one tough job.
smitteh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty tough when you get chauffeured everywhere you want to go, waited on hand on foot for everything you need, and have a round table full of advisors helping you make decisions.
Agnostix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, when you put it THAT way...
skyboundzuri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, Jimmy Carter is still alive and kicking.
FaZaCon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:01:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why the blur effect on the first pic? Perhaps to smooth out the skin and make him appear younger.
NazzerDawk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What? No, it's just an older camera. It's been 7 years, yo.
FaZaCon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol
Whodee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bush's fault.
Freefight ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:15:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't all presidents age considerably during their time in the White House.
Abyakuya109 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:38:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see he's upgraded from a red tie to a blue one. He did promise change.
ShortFuse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:39:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama destroyed America?
Seems like America destroyed Obama to me.
freefromdesire ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:52:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hope vs. defeat
MistyBlue0804 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just feel really sorry for how much shit we've made him deal with. I mean heck he's had to hear so much of what the human race has done as a whole that he's ended up looking so tired and sad. We caused that, the world caused that.
aaronymous912 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:31:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like he fought to save America and realized he lost
pandaslazyanus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even see the age as the big thing here. look at the man's eyes. His first SotUA I can see the expression on his face is filled with hope. Things have just changed hugely in America with his election. Now he looks defeated. Like he's tired of trying to change a country that's determined to go down with the ship...
rough.
JimDuche ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:42:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So many excuses for Obama. "This is what happens when you have to deal with Congress for 8 years" and "This is what happens when you deal with Republicans...". Young, misguided, ill-informed redditors seem to forget that "we" (all of us as a whole) elected Congress and they are only doing what we are asking them to do.
"Obama can't get anything done with this Congress..." Correct. And that's how checks and balances work. The voting public of this country put a Republican majority in Congress this term. There's a good fucking reason for that: the country as a whole doesn't like what Obama has been trying to do. Check his approval rating if you don't believe that.
alexlayao ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:52:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/01/12/presidential-job-approval-ratings-from-ike-to-obama/
UnidentifiedFlop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:44:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You may be forgetting that a huge number of the population live in poverty, are uneducated and have very little legitimate education on political matters. Many of the people in the U.S based their decisions off of television news, which is controlled almost completely by 3 corporations. It doesn't really matter how we vote if we aren't given an honest representation of a candidate.
I have educated myself on a lot of candidates for president, senate and congress because I am young, have access to the Internet and am in school getting an education. My dad is hardcore republican who votes against ANYTHING democratic on principle. He doesn't use the Internet, he doesn't educate himself on real issues or legislation just like many others. Democrats do it too, but none of it really matters when media only cover the candidates that have been produced to appear a certain way.
How can we expect people to vote smartly when they aren't educated, they likely can't afford Internet, or otherwise have been socialized to accept whatever their family accepts or what not?
It's hard enough for someone who is somewhat educated to focus on one candidate. I agree that it is Americas fault for voting in a crappy congress,mbut at the same time the system as it is is designed to benefit those with power and influence. You can't expect poverty stricken people to become masters of political science overnight.
Whatever way you want to spin it, Congress has not been working to the benefit of the U.S. Citizens, so it doesn't matter that they were elected or not. They are actively working against American people, while Obama has at least tried to work on solutions that have a middle ground.
All in all, the situation sucks.
JimDuche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't say America voted in a crappy Congress. You think Congress is actively working against the American people but Obama is not, right?
Think about that for a moment. Many people think the opposite of what you just wrote. It's subjective based on which way you lean. You are likely young and idealistic but don't sell your dad short. Between the two of you, he has a whole hell of a lot more life experience than you do. Pretty much everything you know, you learned from the internet and the internet is filled with mostly bullshit.
UnidentifiedFlop ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:02:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm actually in college, have been working since high school, and have educated myself on actual issues. My dad says racist crap all the time, he is a self proclaimed Christian who has never read the bible or attended church, doesn't pay taxes and could not provide for his family. My dad and mom had to be on assistance programs. Hr doesn't research any candidate that isn't a Republican candidate. I'm not selling my dad short, he does that himself. If Obama was a bad president, than I don't know what we would call Bush. Either way, my dad believes that Reagan was the greatest president of all time, the guy who ushered in the age of ruining unions, education, healthvare and family wages amongst the American people.
I still love my dad and family who are like minded like him, but their opinions on decisions that affect my future are worthless to me. I have been screwed over by him and his generation, and all he does is complain about millenials being entitled, while ignoring all the issues they never had to deal with. My dad had the opportunity to go to school, buy a house, find a career, buy a car, and go to the doctor if needed without facing financial ruin.
I didn't say Obama is perfect, but he attempted to implement a healthcare system. I doesn't work well, and that's no suprise, but he isn't trying to be the loudest person in the room and saying that the majority of people in the population don't deserve healthcare.
Lastly, the reason why our congress is so crappy is due to the blatant corruption in almost every aspect of government, as well as banks and corporations controlling and lobbying legislation. If these people actually cared about the American people, 5000% price gouging wouldn't exist for a life saving drug. Education costs wouldn't be skyrocketing along with healthcare. Congress voted against planned parenthood, they always vote against increasing veteran benefits, as well as equal pay for women. I'm not sure how you can't see this as working against Americans.
assumes-irony ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:05:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which "we" were the ones always harping on them to vote themselves salary increases because their income clearly isn't stable enough and doesn't cover cost-of-living increases?
Pretty weak. Even when you think you know something, you have to research the shit out of it because media coverage is a circus that performs for ratings, not a service that exists to objectively disseminate balanced coverage to the public. A lot of people dislike the president because they're ill-informed, and honestly, a lot of people may really like the president because they're ill-informed.
It's easy to get an approval rating. It's a hell of a lot harder to objectively qualify why the approval rating is what it is when people are swayed by marketing conglomerates rather than factual or unspun data.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More Americans voted for Democrtic House Reps than Republican House Reps in 2012, yet we got a Republican House. It was absolutely not the will of the American people for congress to obstruct the president.
MaddenMan73 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:04:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's always been this way unfortunately, and unfortunately nobody associates age with wisdom anymore.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some older people are very wise, but most are just as wise as the general population. Nothing special about getting old...
apollo888 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:23:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. Its called gerrymandering.
proObama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:24:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Senators are elected via a popular vote, so at best you can only be half right.
Roastmasters ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:32:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For the majority of Obama's presidency, democratics have controlled the senate. The GOP have only had control of the senate for the past year.
RamsesThePigeon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:05:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you showed that to an extraterrestrial with the title "Father and Son," they'd probably believe you.
I mean, why would you lie to an alien, right?
reposts_videos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:56:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He used to be right handed, now he's a lefty.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:50:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All of that incessant lying catches up to a guy it appears.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
citation needed
Need_vagina_pix_nao ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan". Would you like to keep going?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As long as that plan meets the minimum requirements then yeah you can, I kept mine.
Need_vagina_pix_nao ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That wasn't part of the quote. "If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan". Nothing about minimum requirements. It also doesn't take into effect that 7 million people lost their insurance because employers dropped their plans. This was a direct result of passage. Let me go further on his bullshit:
โNo matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American peopleโฆ If you like your health care plan, youโll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.โ
โHere is a guarantee that Iโve made. If you have insurance that you like, then you will be able to keep that insurance.โ
And here's the real jewel frmo Obamacare:
โI will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits โ either now or in the future. I will not sign it if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future, period. And to prove that Iโm serious, there will be a provision in this plan that requires us to come forward with more spending cuts if the savings we promised donโt materialize.โ
WaPo reported immediately after it was signed into law that Obamacare would add $340 billion to the deficit over the next decade. Then the CBO came out in 2012 and said it would cost twice as much as what Obama initially promised. And it keeps going up.
I can go on if you'd like. Obamacare is not even scratching the surface.
0fficerNasty ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:59:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only real change that happened during his presidency.
captainedwinkrieger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Burn
TheLegendofRebirth ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:01:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The look of a hopeful new President vs. a President who is tired of Republicans' shit.
DamnTheseLurkers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:56:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess the fact that the first pic is at half dpi (aka potato quality) helps hide all the details like wrinkles and stuff.
_Schmegeggy_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:44:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turns out that black, does, in fact crack. You just need the weight of the country to do it.
Goose506 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This poor guy wanted to do so much good. Whether you agree or not with his ideas, he just wanted better for everyone. Held back by old fashion boys club in politics and big sector business.. That's the face of exhaustion from the amount of stupidity he's put up with.
The-Qing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:41:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, Obama. You did all right.
Tsaiw ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A kiss on the forehead for trying~
RIP Obama
src88 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:58:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spoken like a true reddit drone
BullshitSlayer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:13:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Poor Obama, political gridlock and hundreds of problems on his plate. These toxic conditions would do this to any person
encapsidated ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:49:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
can clearly see image softening in the left pic. but, it does take a toll
whatsupdac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't he smoke cigarettes as well? Probably attributes to the aging quite a bit.
Dgdhdjskdj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:34:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"We used to watch Presidents decay before our very eyes from month to month and even week to week on national TV - except for Nixon, of course, who thrived on power the way that a vampire bat thrives on blood, and Reagan, who seemed a little too stupid to get old. I guess Gerald Ford was that way too"
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:53:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Americans don't realize how good you all have it, like f.d.r he has obviously given his best years of his life and health for the country. Be proud, much love from Australia.
hammered_hamster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:54:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And still a shitbag. Least he stayed true.
KayJay24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:57:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, people age. Get the fuck over it.
Lonecrow66 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:11:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is an exact representation of the state of our country.
Bobb333 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:16:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being full of shit makes you age.
-TheWanderer- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:18:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All the golfing he did, sucked the life right out of him.
FascismIsForHipsters ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:03:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Anyone who says our economy is in decline is peddling fiction." - President Obama, SOTU, 2016
nerf_herder1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What are these? Graphs for ants?
dorekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can I get a little more jpeg on those pictures?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, Obama..
RunnerTenor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did you expect him to look after 8 years? Reality check: In the years from age 48-55, your hair will gray; the lines in your face will become more pronounced; and you will look older. It doesnโt just come from worry and stress โ it comes from aging. Look at George W Bush. That guy took more vacation than anyone, rode his bike two hours a day, didnโt worry about a thing, and still he showed signs of aging. TLDR People get old. It happens.
Daforce1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Republicans can do that to a man
LiveFree1773 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DAE Rethuglicans????!!!
schm0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had the pleasure of meeting the President and shaking his hand a few months ago. The picture on the right doesn't do him justice. Sure, he has a bit more grey on him, and a few more wrinkles on his face than before, but his eyes are still just as lively and his smile contagious.
ride-mx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess 7 years ago the graphic arts department liked him.
ZeroDivisorOSRS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:48:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Left: I'm here to help
Right: I'm tired of your bullshit
plentyoffishes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:51:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm confused on why people still care what a president says in any state of the union talk. Of course it's going to be all unicorns and rainbows, happy talk, nothing to worry about. They never say anything significant.
someFunnyUser ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Patrick Steward should be president.
ohno2015 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Selling your soul to the devil will have it's drawbacks, additionally being specifically responsible for the continued 'collateral' deaths of innocent Humans (as high as 80% of drone deaths being innocent people) through the usage of indiscriminate drone warfare probably wears heavy on a thinking/feeling Human being.
Aureliusmind ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Blowing people up with drones for 8 years really takes its toll.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:08:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
getting attacked by ignorant racists can take its toll, too.
Zynac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:20 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you even know what racism is?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:23:43 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's when a person judges an individual based on nothing more than the color of their skin, the slant of their eyes, or the nation from which their great-grandparents came.
I've heard more people hate on President Obama for his skin color and his "muslim" name than for the decisions he made as President of the United States. The people who do that aren't all that interested in politics- they don't care about parties or fillibusters- they're just upset that a, (and I can't even bring myself to use the term,) "N*****" is president. THAT is racism.
Fuck those people.
Shamwow22 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:26:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, maybe it would be a great idea to put a 74-year old man in office.
hammertime4525 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lets be honest guys... That could honestly just be 8 years worth of aging. 46 to 54 can lead to many changes, and presidency or no presidency this could happen.
Ryan8731 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:46:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly what I was thinking! 36 to 44 with that change would be shocking. But 46 to 54 looks about right.
hammertime4525 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:50:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, presidency definitely doesn't make you younger. But I wouldn't be shocked if this is what happened naturally over 8 years. Heck my own father lost most of his hair got quite wrinkly over the same period.
RonManHandler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:04:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank god this shit is almost over!
Homebrew915 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:08:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who would have known that playing that much golf would be so taxing and stressful on a person?
Hamsmelly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:15:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess we can put being president up there on the list of things that suck really bad, right underneath having kids.
MastaGrower ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:02:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smoking
L3ndo ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 14:23:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess when you blow up hospitals and drone civilians daily, it will take its toll on you.
Whodoobucrew ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:16:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pssh, that's the easy part compared with trying to deal with congress
Comefinemegovt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:54:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"We made you! Bow down to us and accept our lifestyle or be lonely!" -Obama
Miotoss ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 14:23:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I regret voting for this man twice.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not too big into politics, but are you really down voting him because he expressed his opinion in a civil way?
Tsaiw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A wild idiot appeareth
Donkface ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It's a shame you're getting downvoted for merely expressing how you feel about having exercised your right to vote. The libs cannot stand anything that disagrees with them.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:21:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I checked his history first. There's no way he actually voted for Obama twice.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 14:50:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't facebook
din35h ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lovely ties, those.
Ginkgopsida ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wormthongue is at it again
xm00g ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shapeshifter, that's all he is.
Scooby1996 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at his fingers, you can see how much weight he's lost, look at the difference in his ring finger now and then, it looks asif it could literally fall off.
stanpixel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who even wants to be president anymore?
czy85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trump...
stanpixel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was referring to future elections.
Ghost8909 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh who would ever want to be king?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These comparisons come up every month. I hope all who post these witness the seamless shift from their mid-forties to mid-fifties that they believe they're entitled to.
Xenjael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's amazing is most people who were president live to be very old. So despite looking like this, don't be surprised if he's around for another 40-50 years.
Jaywearspants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
idk about 40-50, maybe 25-35.
eyecomeanon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if there have been studies done to try to isolate whether the aging is due to stress or simply the point in their life when a candidate becomes president. I mean, if someone were elected at 22 and served until 30, would we see such a dramatic aging effect? Seems like most presidents don't become president until their 40's or 50's. That's around the same age where some dramatic changes can occur in terms of aging appearance.
Still, hard to shake off the feeling that the presidency really does prematurely age people. The stress and the lack of sleep seem to do a real number on people.
unknownSubscriber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Minimum age is 35, so we will probably never know.
project_valient ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since they legally can't hold the office til 35, they tend to all be in that midlife crisis age when first elected. Youngest to hold office was TR @42... Your body really changes physically between 35-50, the added stress really must have an effect as well.
I'd love to see photos of "normal" people, from these two days and see how they differ.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The tie is a nice touch.
ChuckChuk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years definitely put a lot more notes in that binder.
the_seed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He needs some help with tying ties.
purplepenguin4163 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His wedding ring doesn't even fit anymore
StrangeCaptain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck that job
basa1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or me at the beginning of my degree and me at my last semester. they said school would ensure me a job
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie aged.
TheRampantWriter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He needs some milk!
irvin_e1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn been president really wears you down.
tverstraight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
his black is starting to crack.
_Pornosonic_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like Meth.
yip_yip_yip_uh_huh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All I see is fgsfds
walkssoftly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why couldn't he have worn the same tie for us???
MoshMuth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes in 8 years i too have changed.
mclumber1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His lapel flag pin is still the same size.
I knew he fucking hated America.
reddef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidents age as years pass? r/woahdude
Slapdog238 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait. People age? Even presidents?
mapleloafs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right image is just sharper, no way he gained that many wrinkles in 8 years
DrHuxleyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is insane, it looks like he aged 8 years!
Bunzilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama has a red tie and the guy in the background has a blue tie then vice versa in the recent pic.
fosterwallacejr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernies just gonna be a skeleton at the end
But still, Bernie 2016!!!!
jiarn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good god if Bernie Sanders were to win two terms....
RazorRex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw an article when he was first elected that showed the toll and what he'd look like at the end of his presidency. They were spot on with the aging. The stuff we have no idea about along with what we do must be insane.
DeathStarJedi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to see the original un-photoshopped version of the first SotU pic
dogboyboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's a Sith Lord
shypster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From DILF to GILF.
kingdowngoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can tell he misses Reggie.
czy85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He even changed from right-handed to left-handed.
XopherD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stress is a killer.
MakeMePancakes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years kicks your ass
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His tie suggests he doesn't like red anymore.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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milkyturtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure he is. It's like he's the dad and a bunch of his children have killed each other.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He changed his pointing hand I see.
quinbd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
test
cardinals1996 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In this 7 years, it looks like he's aged 15 years.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Should have kept the picture in the attic.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Answering a question on the first day of class vs the last day of class.
wsr3ster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seems reasonable for aging 8 years.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He went from being right wing to extreme left wing??
impractical_panda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pic 1: Yeah, I'll have another
Pic 2: Check please.....
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you look at the last 3 presidents, you will see the same aging occur... it just proves that job is soul sucker... party affiliation does not matter... not an enviable position to hold..
whotaketh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I hesitate on Bernie. That man already looks pretty old. Put the Presidency on his shoulders? I'm not sure he'd make it past year two with all that stress.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same issue people had with McCain, they thought sure we elect him, but he looks ready to croak.. and then what Palin?? FUCKKKKKK NOOOOOOO
whotaketh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll definitely give him props for the whole (extremely played out) POW thing, but that doesn't really make up for his lack of a domestic policy too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:07 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see it from both sides, putting Rep/Dem rhetoric aside. Was there a need for some time of insurance program, yes there was. People forget when insurance companies stopped coverage just for using it too much. But when there's no cooperation, because of rhetoric and idealism... no one will succeed, its a no win for anyone.
whotaketh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:36 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I definitely don't forget that time. Even though I didn't benefit from the expanded coverage for young adults, I did benefit after my COBRA had run out for a year and I couldn't afford a new plan since I was in school with no employer benefits. Luckily I have a plan through work now, but the law helped bridge the gap.
I totally agree with your point on cooperation too. People also forget that there used to be tons of cooperation between both sides, and stuff actually got done. Not everything, because that's not how cooperation works, but many things are much better than nothing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:12 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed, put the rhetoric and the BS aside.. Politics today see, more WWE than compromise. i give Obama respect for at least trying... for so many years all politician on both sides said they would try... but to qoute Yoda.. there is not try.. just do.
Takeme2yourleader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years is a long time. Even longer when in office of any kind
helayaka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So he's become left handed?
wtfduud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You also have to keep in mind, it's been 8 years since then.
Atbt1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just a few years of Stress will mess you up.
woochangclan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so he went from Right wing to Left wing?
ou_master ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, he looked pretty young for 46. Age caught up to him I guess.
rapzeh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, even his tie turned grey....
geneuro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep in mind, that's also 8 years of aging (+ stress)
ProspectiveQuant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The hell..how did he age like 20 years in 8??
milkyturtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It happens to every president. Look at the before and afters of every one... Stress ages you bad.
ProspectiveQuant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely not. JFK got younger. Clinton and Nixon didn't age at all...
milkyturtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh...I think you might be looking at the wrong pick... JFK did agree, though not a ton... Same with Clinton. Take a look at Lincoln
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With or without, 8 years of aging will still have an effect.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It makes you wonder why people want this lifestyle so badly.
wuzizname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Will Smith in the first 1/2 of the movie, Morgan Freeman cast for the back 1/2.
legthief ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He gestures with his left hand now, clearly an impostor.
whotaketh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Left Obama has seen some shit.
JuniorDM7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The color got out of his hair, and out of his tie
Soundwave_X ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Grad school has given me several white hairs. If I was president I'd look like Christopher Lloyd.
JunglingGrizzBear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you look closely, his tie has a trend from his right going upwards to the left! In the first pic it was his right index finger, in the second pic it is his left index finger. I think Beyonce was right, everything in the box goes to the left!
haresenpai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
#Ashadu
daalekz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it just me or are his ears huge compared to when he started
Dzunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is the REAL secret that you learn once you are elected President that weighs on you so heavily that it ages you so harshly?
UPRC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Craaaaab people.
Craaaaab people.
strong_realstrong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
CHANGE!
PsychoNerd91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's looking like his own grandad now.
notthefakeJonSnow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least Donald Trump couldn't look any worse... Right?
UPRC ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:05:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, I don't want to imagine how rough he'd look after two terms. He already looks like he just served four.
chipsharp0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of a joke Seth Myers did at the correspondents' dinner on year:
What happened to you? Everyone was so excited when you were elected. The celebration in Grant Park for a young and vibrant President easy electric! Now you look like Louis Gossett Sr.!
dargor1406 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that is what stress does to you
sheps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HD Video is a cruel mistress.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL to always buy ties that go from left to right and at a downward angle. guess that's the thing...
CU_BJay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie went grey
SprigganXz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cannot fathom the stress he must have gone through.
dmr83457 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
damn... looks easily 7-8 years older in the second pic
UPRC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is. :p
ITSRNH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That hairline is smiling for Obama now.
kp86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well at least the eyebrows held on
Pugovitz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know, Obama sure has started leaning more to the left towards the end of his term.
Talanoa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
still hasn't gotten through that binder
bookon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was 43 when he became president and look almost exactly like my pictures from that time. It's crazy what stress does to you. I have friends my age (50) who look 60 and some who look 35. Maybe I'll go downhill in 5 years, but I think it has more to do with lifestyle (and genes) than anything else.
TMoney67 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what's your secret?
bookon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love the work I do, don't smoke or drink more than a couple drinks a year. I work indoors, so I don't have sun damage. Also, I have been told I look 35 since I was 25. I looked older then and younger now. I'll take that trade.
sneakybigfootmoan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The job literally sucks the life out of you.
jander99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's the thing people seem to forget. There's 7 years difference here. Seven years in late 40s and 50s changes everyone in a similar way, regardless of how much perceived stress they take on. I'd say he fared better than most.
Saint453 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The face of a man that knows the cure to aids and secrets of Area 51, but can't tell anyone.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What would Sanders look like after 2 terms?
ThrowGoToGo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why people are so amazed at the effects of time. That progression looks totally normal for 8 years.
garbageman13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sad, he looks so hopeful in the first one, then so exhausted in the second.
"C'mon everybody we can do this for America!"
"Screw you guys, I'm going home."
1TrueKingInTheNorth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black don't crack but it sure does age
RoadSmash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now everyone go back and look at a picture of yourself from 7 years ago.
Aeromorpher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woh...look how different his ties look.
exile0514 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's seen some shit.
Shryke2a ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone should post pictures of a person the same age as Barack at the approximate same times.
gmtjr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
r/politics better put as much thought into Sanders' VP as they did him then.
wiznillyp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone ever see the Bloomberg magazine some years ago where they aged Obama on the cover?
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/851769/images/o-BUSINESSWEEK-OBAMA-facebook.jpg
Atisekim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently "black don't crack" doesn't apply if you're the president of the United States of America.
Mynameisnotdoug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For those doing math, it's worth noting the first picture is 6 years ago.
There was no SoU speech in 2009, as he was just inaugurated. This is from January 2010, and 2016.
2814werewolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Countdown to when this nigga gonna go broke. -Chris Rock.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks older than my dad.
dont_forget_canada ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
omg its like he's aged 7 years or something
Heavy_Weapons_Guy_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It looks like his ring doesn't even fit anymore.
listening_is_loving ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The real question is how he managed to grow two inches and can I learn that trick?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
look at his hands. I swear he's gotten blacker
jbrandim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can we get a side by side Biden comparison?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do his fingers look longer now or is that just me?
baldbert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck that Job...
damaged_but_whole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember the photoshopped predictions of what Obama would look like by the end of his term that popped up in some magazines and they were startling accurate... except for Bloomberg's which was a little extreme: http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/1106_ObamaCover_inline4051.jpg
lastshotiguess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost as if.. those pictures are almost ten years apart!
Ten years ago i was in middle school.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
his ears got bigger. why? so he doesn't have to use the air force one.
sparks277 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reality's a bitch, ain't it...
spytheguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously a body double...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thank god its last
squidgun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not enough make up on
slapyogrannyndacreek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love how him and Biden probably call each other up and decide to color-mismatch ties every time
jimmyjamespak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tired. So so tired.
essentiale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Now I know"
dan_v_ploeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
damn his terms made him look like... 8 years older
killerthebig360 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya boy looking a little stressed out.
kalmarsh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Blue tie looks much better anyways.
mayhem12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that just 8 years of normal aging?
dontaxmebro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I may not have done much, but I'm still black and you're racist.
reelish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We did this.
whiskey-monk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Christ, even his hands aged
fromman003 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think Biden was wearing his tie from the first one.
NicNoletree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He now points with his left hand. That's so sinister.
Edit - link: http://blog.oup.com/2010/09/left-hand/
F4LL3NxEXILE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It looks like he's maxing out his dark side points.
Humblebee89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If Bernie becomes president, he'll look like Emperor Palpatine by the end of it.
egetsu123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Doesn't look like he has anything in his folder when he was a wee young president. He is just holding an empty binder.
naumankhan02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen some shit. I wouldn't recommend it.
Anthony_Padildo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
iBleeedorange on front page again!?
Johknee5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its amazing what the power of the darkside does to peoples physical appearance. In Obama its not as obvious as some previous presidents. But certainly, in his eyes you can see it the most.
robinhopok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He became left-handed.
mannyrmz123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ZOMG
intuitiveline ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lean got him fucked up
always_down_voted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He also appears to go from being right -handed to left-handed.
Renualz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his suit faded to grey.
SarcasmRules ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie turned grey
jfk_47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The tie choice interests me.
Tpelyouso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it worth it Obama? Would you recomend presidency to a friend?
iamelroberto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. I wonder what Bernie's gonna look like..
cafeRacr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/4300000/The-Mummy-1999-the-mummy-movies-4380428-960-536.jpg
cptshiba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
skeleton
HaikuberryFin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I put this in terms
that Reddit will understand!
ACTUAL SAMPLES
--Danger-- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
jeez, look at what we did to his skin. first year: aglow with health and vitality. final year: sallow, drained, gray...the energy has even gone out of the small muscles around and under his eyes, and the sides of his mouth.
GrumpyBert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is also a smoker, that accelerates aging (well, as being the fucking president does...).
--Danger-- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is a good point. he said he was trying to quit back during his first campaign...did he ever manage it?
Texas__Matador ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How much of that is the job and how much is just being 8 years older. Maybe a comparison of other government officials and some CEOs and actors
princessannabelle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wonder if he'll look back and think it was all worth it.
PanicGiraffe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like Palpatine before and after serving for the galactic senate.
bafakazz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woah. Maybe it's just the stark contrast between the two, but the one on the left looks shopped or something. There are just too few wrinkles.
Kieldro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seems like a normal progression of age considering the passage of time.
Kireblade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He chose...poorly.
oubrew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Finally learned how to tie his tie correctly.
cleaverdm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, looks like he's aged... 8 years.
Dayman-Nightman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stay away from the cigs, kids.
Half_Finis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WOW camera quality has skyrocketed!
Romfamine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just googled "Enrique Peรฑa Nieto Before and After" (Mexican President), Not only in USA
FowD9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's almost as if aging 7 years in your late late 40s makes you look like you're in your mid 50s
jpatjpatjpat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man it's almost like he's 7-8 years older
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks so tired and worn down. This is exactly why I wouldn't become president.
mkicon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He used to dye his hair, and when he won the presidency he said he'd focus on the job and not on meaningless things like his hair color.
But that's a small part of his older look
iphilya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fox news reports that it's special effects and makeup.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still looks better than Kennedy.
dorfsmay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh Wow! He looks like he's 8 years older!
ziddykamm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It dose technically have the highest death ratio of any job in America at 9%..... perhaps some of that is stress ?
cjames1621 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He should have kept smoking bogies
SHFT101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was the first black president, he will not be the last grey.
jfnc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
welcome to politics.
teefour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly the reptoids drain the life energy of our leaders bit by bit to make and keep them subservient.
toby224 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Anti-Christ in the making....
InconspicuousCretin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
America what did you do?!?!?
i_am_not_fun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Soon obama will post pics on reddit saying "president free now for five moths and keeping it going"
GainzdalfTheWhey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, bummer for Michelle. Also not wearing a red tie? WTF
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, even his tie has aged.
Kaleesithrall94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The American flag lapel pins in both pictures let me know he's not a terrorist. Thank god for those handy lapel pins. /s
Did anyone else remember that that was thing upon seeing them?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe that most of our presidents wanted to do the right thing, but lobbyists and money get in the way. The age from the stress knowing doing the wrong thing.
Evning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i wanna see a female asian president.
given the stereotype, she probably needs booster seats to give the last state of the union.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The change in the workbook he uses to store his notes is the most fascinating/revealing in my opinion.
pow3llmorgan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even the pin looks faded.
boman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not choose a shot where he has a similar expression on his face?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't look like the mic aged much.
thebakedbarista ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie matches his demeanor.
RememberRockLobster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anybody else notice the difference in the amount of pages in the 3-ring binders?
RogerSmith123456 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So...he has a different tie. What am I missing?
VerbalRadiation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what happens when you are doing your job and 4chan/Xbox players are allowed to comment on it nationally, 24/7.
CranialFlatulence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take any person 45 and older and let them age 8 years.
People always posts these before and after pics of presidents, and while I'm sure they age more than your average adult, I bet it's not as bad as depicted.
jagenigma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being the president must really be a stressor.
fourpac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Still, he's had 223 days on vacation (if you count Camp David stays). That's a lot of down time, even in a stressful job.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie got grayer!
pointofyou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Couple of things:
Yes he's aged. Obviously. But this pic is made for karma ain't it?
BiteSizedUmbreon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do people on reddit always assume it was just for the karma by over analyzing the post to the millionth degree? Karma holds little value
boman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It appears that he is going a little lighter on the makeup.
italyprayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I call burnout.
radlifemadlife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There should be pics of presidents with their before and after pics like this with their speeches etc. This is cool
FuujinSama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of it is the presidency, yes. But let's not forget 8 years is a long time for a 46 year old man. Most people will change a lot from their mid forties to their mid fifties.
Dealt-With-It ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally hemorrhaging orange /u/iBleeedorange
HappyJackisHappy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That same mark to the left of the microphone.
RifleGun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All this means that he's about to shed his skin soon.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Time is a cruel bitch mother
Bruinman86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Granted, he's at that point in his life where aging can happen pretty fast, there's little doubt the job can and will age you fast. No thanks, Pass.
theclash06013 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being president is brutal, here are some pictures of presidents before and after their presidency. Yes he's 8 years older, but the biggest difference is not the wrinkles, or the hair, it's that he just looks really really tired. They all do.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks 8 years older...Oh...
Dont_T_Me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's called aging...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If Bernie gets elected, his picture on the right is going to be a skeleton
happpylist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Freshmen year vs senior year
Ian_Dess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
obama propo
jdonnellyesq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These pictures are often shown for the presidents as evidence of how tough the job is. I'm not saying the job isn't, but I think these photos are misleading. President Obama was 47 when elected. He is now 55. Look at pictures of anyone in this age range and you will see similar differences. This is a range when people seem to cross over into old age and appearance changes quite a bit.
Tefur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess that means if Bernie Sanders gets elected, he's gonna just be straight up dead.
YouFuckingJerk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaaaand still can't tie a tie.
reproach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want to see before and afters of both famous and random people in this same time period.
maxelrod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost like men visibly age a lot between the ages of 47 and 54.
Fthagn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't help getting a little Sith look leading the american peeps.
Ent_of_Louisiana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn even his tie went gray.
djak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
U.S. Presidency: The automatic double aging machine. Age 20 years in only 8!
AKSasquatch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
whoa, seen some shit...
Eclectician ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, its almost like people look older as they age
beckoning_cat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:20:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everybody ages 25 years in just 8. Idiot.
andrenaldo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The president is actually volunteering for a host to the alien parasite that invented the fed, that's why they all age so fast. Not the stress of a whole nation weighing on his back. Aliens.
christiansmithauthor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yikes. Couldn't pay me enough to be president. Nope.
dontcareitsonlyreddi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good Riddens
theangryintern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was even apparent 4 years ago when he was about to run for re-election. Seth Meyers at the White House Correspondents Dinner
mmherzog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People do age on 8 years
Yami_Moto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Don't you think he looks tired?"
Nazaki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That man looks tired. Sorry Obama..
9FingeredFrodo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want someone to remake that famous "HOPE" poster with an old Obama that says something like "REGRET"
Dracula_Bus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL time ages people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amazing what the stress of running this crazy place will do to you , he's definitely aged
Dip-T ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So he has become left-handed?
computeraddict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ch- ch- ch- Chia!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being president will do shit to you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
niggas beat
pterodactylus962 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess he winged from right to left.....
eg_elska ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason, someone edited a photo in 2009 of what Obama would look like aged. It's pretty close.
It also sort of seems like the photo on the left in the original post is either good lighting, or is edited. He looked young back then, but not that young.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As much as people want to piss all over America as leader of the free world, that as an awesome responsibility that it bears.
Every day, whether millions wish it different or not, he made decisions that impacts the world. You can see the cost of just 8 years of that
E_aley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Say what you will about the President but that microphone held up very well.
DogpatchZer06 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ashy Barry
landdon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's really sad actually. I hope he got out of it what he wanted. It looks like it took a toll on his personal well being
MichieD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks ill.
willllllllllllllllll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gone from using his right hand, to his left.
Hieillua ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So he grew older in 8 years? Who would've thought of that.
Daedricbanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at the difference ! He became left handed
trollishus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lying to the public sure is stressful!
d3r3k1449 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his ears got bigger!
3DGrunge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guess he shouldn't have given up smoking.
mammoth369 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ha obama looked like a kid in an oversized suit
It will be intereting to hear obama talk about his time and experience in office, after hes been away and doesnt have to play politics
Scurvy_Profiteer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Say what you will about his politics, nobody can claim he didn't work is ass off.
YakaYuri42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what 8 years of Internet comments will do to you.
AG923 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We feel the way he looks after 8 years.
lolzfeminism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's been 8 fucking years guys. He's aged from 45-53. He looks pretty typical.
Grapemuggler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder what the before and after of Bernie Sanders will look like if he wins...
Baba_OReilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"So long screwy! See you in St. Looey!"
copperear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tough job.
RamboJezus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who remembers when Obama looked like he was likely to get elected? "He can't be elected. He'll get assassinated."
NiceTryDisaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Obama.
strawberryshortycake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if stress from being president or because it's been nearly 8 years.
12cbutler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. Even his tie turned gray. That's one hell of a toll on a man.
Fakespeedbump ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought he wore the red tie last night?
steveexplodes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie went gray.
Infallible_Fallacy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Idk if I'm looking too much into it but the choice of tie color really affects the vibe he gives off in my eyes. The white and red feels like it's full of energy while the black and blue feels like he has experience and wisdom and shit.
Valtieri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how much of this is also due to effort involved. Surely a new president, eager to prove themselves, is going to put forth a greater effort at things like makeup and whatnot.
1st year of presidency? Yes, add the makeup, I need to look like a flawless icon, a true leader!
7th year of presidency, no chance of further campaigning? Let's just do the bare minimum here.
Boliechr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years and I've never once heard anything about his birthday
FarmerTedd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, guess cigarettes do make you age quickly ๐
venerated ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still would.
BigCj34 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The different ties give it away really. Not to mention the ring-binders.
Trees4twenty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All that lying has taken quite a toll on his body.
phz10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man time goes quick, can remember it like yesterday when he was first elected as President watching in Australia. Maybe he can ask Brad Pitt for the stuff he's using..dude looked like he was in his 30's at the Golden Globes.
zapatoviejo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you play the game of thrones...
anon1moos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The blue and grey tie isn't doing him any favors.
backwoodsbatman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How old is Obama?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
anyone got Michele before and after? Cuz she still look good
davelog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rode hard and put away wet.
ballstatemarine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do Presidents not just drop dead from stress during an 8 year term? I think my heart would just explode.
BiznessCasual ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You probably live it the fuck up while you're President. You get the best seats at shows, eat at the finest restaurants, see the most beautiful sites worldwide, and get to experience things most people dream of. Yeah, the stress is next-level shit that will rot you inside and out, but the fun is probably amplified to match.
Also scotch. Lots and lots of scotch.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My god. He looks like eight-years older or something!
Bountyhunter227 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't believe he came to presidancy in 2008 time just flew on by.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would imagine that launching a thousand cruise missiles in just a few days would probably take a toll on your heart. Right or wrong hes directly responsible for a tremendous amount of dead.
Jinmasu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always like looking at these and seeing how the 8 years weighed in on them. Bush and clinton were two unique ones as well.
hiljanen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
do presidents of united states take meth regularily?
RoisterRod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, he must have aged 8 years!
jim5cents ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meth is a hell of a drug.
TFBidia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Democracy is one hell of a drug
TheDukeofArgyll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like he has aged, I'd say about 7 years
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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BiznessCasual ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks kinda like Black Leonard Nemoy.
Agaeris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude still loves to point up.
RusticRusty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even the folder is worn out
Cjwillwin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being president ages you? Who knew.
MelonToucher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The color change is so drastic. Whoever selected that gray didn't do him any favors
Extify ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seems to me he doesnt look too bad. Eight years is eight years. Especially the age he started, 8 years make you age regardless.
gentimmy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like 8 years of difference at his age is more noticeable period
Bobcat13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Forget politics: Look at every recent president at the beginning and end of their terms and see how they've aged. This has to be one of the most stressful jobs ever.
Pherras ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed I went and looked at a few and Obamas is pretty dramatic the only one that seems as bad as this one is Lincoln and his before and...well before he was assassinated looks like a freaking zombie , guess your country literally ripping itself apart does that to you though. FDR's is bad as well but his he had just started his 4th term when he died so its over a longer span than the others.
rafail182 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
did his ears got bigger?
BiznessCasual ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your ears and nose both continue to grow throughout your life, so probably.
Supakilla44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL being president does not help you age well.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years in that office looks like nope. Nope.
opeymopey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he swapped ties with the guy in the background
Ras1372 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well it looks like we have a winner in the case study of: being president vs black don't crack.
GetOffMyLawnKids ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jeez, it looks like he went from 25 to 55 in seven years.
yellow_yellow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My god it's like he's aged 8 years!
Hypersmith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He swapped ties with the guy in the back
SolTheApatheticOwl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the look of a man who's had to make some hard decisions in his life.
Giterdun456 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that's what having the weight of the world on your shoulders for 8 years looks like.
bettereditor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being president the only thing that can make black crack.
HiImAlice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8a/13/e3/8a13e30fe1e1d986ad9bcdf23c6d5985.jpg
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SpudgeBoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what happens when you have to work with Republicans for 8 years.
yellowsloth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie went gray
Gouper_da_Firetruck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's wearing a different tie
squalorparlor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people talk about how presidents' appearance changes in 8 years and then compare them to Raquel Welch at 80 years old, but I think if you look at most 35+ people, they look way older in that span. I think it has as much or more to do with the fact that by the time you can become US prez, you're right there at the precipice where people start to show age pretty rapidly. Sure stress seems to age people but I don't see how this is dramatically different from my dad between those years and he works for a cable company.
Edit: I suck at reddit formatting so I took away the text link to the stunning Raquel http://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20100408&t=2&i=88828393&w=644&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=2010-04-08T180956Z_01_BTRE63715WK00_RTROPTP_0_US-WELCH
Whatsamattahere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a job that ages you no matter who are you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The President literally has the weight of the world on him. He's aged so much.
Michalusmichalus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He hasn't aged as well as I would have expected.
TripleShine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder what Bernie would look like after 8 years.....
BiznessCasual ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:30:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Socialist Hippy Palpatine?
botchman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm fairly sure people his age will look different 8 years later...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't somebody do a mock up of what he would look like after 8 years. IIRC they nailed it.
retarded_ama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woah, 8 years passed and the president got older? FUCKING AMAZING!
Barondonvito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oldbama
BiznessCasual ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People age in 8 years.
Dubbya aged much more drastically. Billy also went more white.
Of those, I think Bush aged the most. I think most of it happened during his first term too; say what you will about him, but being President during 9/11 can't be easy on your mental and physical health.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never really thought about it before but just imagine how fucking stressful being a head of state, or head of a government, must be.
sightlab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's been 8/10 of a decade. Welcome to your future, kids: shit gets real in your late 40s.
Jryitoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How to add 30 years to a guy in the space of 8 years
Catorak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dealing with the GOP: Not Even Once.
anonymoussteve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency is a hell of a drug!
Kflynn1337 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there vampire hiding under the Whitehouse or something? Because seriously, all your Presidents end up looking like they've had the life sucked out of them...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nigga got old
RatInaMaze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"B-man, you look like hammered shit"
kjbetan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There may be some photo manipulation here, because the US flag pins don't match colors. It could also have to do with different lighting conditions or the camera that is used.
adeadart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it is almost as if he has aged in those 8 years!!!
Silentarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's gone from right- to left-handed!
factoid_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine how bad Donald trump will look.
Obama started out as a decent looking guy.
FrostyBook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's because he smokes
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The presidency does that to people.
Lucidmike78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only difference i see is makeup, hair dye, and a smile. After that 7~8 years looks about right.
Source: my photography experience
CeiIingCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One thing to note is that he was mid 40's when the first picture was taken. Mid 50's now. Time does things to people, and it's not too pretty
Iambathman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know it has been ten years, but being the president and knowing whats really going on must be much more stressful than the average high stress job.
aeryghal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stress. It's a helluva drug.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't help that he looked incredibly young for a 46 year old.
fknzed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's stressful running a country full of over weight lazy idiots.
Maybe_Im_Jesus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmm, he is now using his left hand to gesture.
This is compelling.
Off to /r/conspiracy
sameldacamel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being the president of the United fucking States of America is a tough job. It's a drain I bet.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shouldn't that flag be upside-down on his lapel?
the_disco_pimp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah its a kinda high stress job ya know
t1taniumexp0se ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His face does definitely look older, and I'm sure his hair has gotten more grey than it was 8 years ago, but a teacher of mine in high school who was friends with him told our class anecdotes about Obama, one of which being that during his 2008 campaign he used hair dye to darken his hair and appear younger.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Advice to Obama on battling presidential aging They were close.
Flomo420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost as though he's aged over the last 8 years.
Chilling.
isawwhatyoujustdid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meh... go find a picture of yourself from 7 years ago and match it up with a current one.
randumnumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black dont crack.
sa1sash4rk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In other news, PEOPLE AGE! Whoo!
Dood567 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do I look high bro?
PhD_In_My_Inbox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From Drizzy to Uncle Drew in no time.
Intoxicatedcanadian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years is a long time.
Also I would wager that once someone becomes president they are more likely to want a bit of grey showing in order to look more 'presidential'.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
as have come a long way it seems, the noise reduction does not seem as bad in the second image, or maybe the first image was doctored to make his skin seem smoother/younger
scotton_wood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I don't understand why anybody would want to be president. A job that's so stressful that it takes a very visible toll on one's body. No matter what you do or say, about a third of the country will hate you, just because of the (D) or the (R) next to your name. For the rest of your life, your freedoms are somewhat restricted (can't go anywhere or do anything without secret service scouting the location to give you the OK). And the money isn't that great. A salary of $400,000 a year sounds pretty good to most people, but compare that to the salary/compensation of a CEO of a company most people have never even heard of.
Seems to me that the most desirable thing I'd want out of a president is the intelligence to realize that it's a job not worth having.
cocojambles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you're the most powerful person in the world, it's probably like being high on some incredible drug all the time.
Reginald_III ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Usually there is significance to the tie color. What is the significance of his dark almost black tie?
itsreallynick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
New tie?
Apeshaft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's slowly turning into Apophis from Stargate SG-1...
http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/graphics/218_header.jpg
PootieTooGood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alternative title: Obama in the youngest looking picture during his first SotU address and the oldest looking one in his last
y25151956 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
grey hair dont care
blitzb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking hell, that like a junkie before and after picture.
h_hoang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First: Hooray I'm president! Last: Man, I've seen some shit!
TheSkyward ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's amazing what the mixture of stress and power can do to the human body.
guildedlotus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He still looks snazzy af though.
JAYDEA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did his head get bigger? HGH use confirmed.
DatDamnWolfy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's called "zooming in, and zooming out"
woah
KostyaLevin789 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost like 2 terms of the presidency is close to a decade!
Numendil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could we get some reference pictures of other people aging 46 to 54?
dispelthemyth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now the politicians can honestly say "one of us"
codemeister666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I remember right when he first took office they posted an image of what he should look like after the stress of office. Seems pretty close to me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They say black don't crack but the president's making a solid counterpoint.
Jdirrt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This picture makes me wonder if Bernie can make it.
nreuter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it is so freaking obvious the photo on the left had smoothing applied.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, it took it's toll
trmanning21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Senator Palpatine-->Darth Sidious
Chairmanman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep his choice of ties has getten worse and worse over the years
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's clearly moving farther to the left.
_THIS_GUY_FUCKS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bold tie choice.
TrayvonsAngelWarrior ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The lighting in the second picture is fucky.
eyereddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I suspect that in a pic comparison of me 8 years ago to today that I would fair no better.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like he even used the same American flag pin. Seems worn/sunwashed.
Dark_Forecast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did he get....................... blacker?
r_u_madd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Went in Rep. came out Dem. ?
drock13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He also was a smoker, combined with the stress of the job, pretty much as expected.
admiralakbar517 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like poetry, it rhymes
darthbone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Positive facial expression on the left, negative one on the right. Went from 46 to 54 betweeen photos. What did YOU look like 8 years ago? No different? The only major difference is his hair grayed, but his hairline actually seemed to lower itself a little bit.
mordecai98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So he IS a leftie...
Durtyjoey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone notice in the first pic the binder is empty
JayReddt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is more just plain old aging.
I bet there are plenty of people with average jobs that age similarly from 47 - 54.
minnesotan_youbetcha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's been eight years, but that's not just eight years of aging.
RagingRudolph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eisenhower is immune, before and after his 8 year presidency:
http://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/before-and-after-term-us-presidents-10.jpg
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. Just goes to show, whether you agree with his policies or not, the toll that the amount of stress the job comes with can take on a person.
beeardkeeper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost as if once elected president one begins going places where time moves slower than it does here.. I don't know... perhaps ... space...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hes also 8 fucking years older...
fnordal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Power corrupts.
btao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He must be pure enough for heaven then by now, because he has had the least amount of power in office in recent memory.
princeabbas2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is he wearing the same suit though??
Rytannic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trump has been sapping his power
bigpapajon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same microphone.
greatestape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quit smoking, kids!
haliastales ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'I've seen shit that will turn you white!'
JMWENT25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone have any other before and afters of past presidents would be cool to see who aged the most/least?
Inthewoodlands ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can someone photoshop a basketball on his finger?
Fuckeddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/photoshopbattles
MikeyB_0101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
POTUS, it's a hell of a drug
OMARSCOMING_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has he aged 'faster' than he normally would of due to being president?
Clemalum07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most of them usually do. Its a very stressful job.
pstanish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like the mirror in the middle has some dust on it.
johnnytaquitos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fucking stress level : president
PeteTheLich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie lost its color
piponwa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even think he had his binder full of sheets when I watched it. Was the tv shows produced so we couldn't see when he flipped the pages?
el_fucko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Telling lies constantly really takes its toll.
IronyIntended2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wish I wasn't so late to this party, but this confirms "National Treasure 3 : Page 47"
behar1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
was anyone else really moved by the last 20 mins of his speech
rameninside ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pic: Man gets white hair and wrinkles at about the right biological timing
itsthatkidgreg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What happens to a dream deferred? Does it dry up, like a raisin in the sun?
pokefan01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Being a President really took it's toll on Obama's hair though
spaceninjaking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Obama
LordCharco_iii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks
ObamaPresidency.srivas95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can see how much being president aged the poor guy
McWaddle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get it, but eight years is a long time regardless of your job. You're going to look different from 46 to 54, too.
__Noodles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
FWIW.... This is one of the reasons Hillary won't win.
She's too old looking. ESP if the R side comes down to Rubio the head on debates won't be able to hide it.
I mean, the 18-28 crowd that came out for young Obama... They aren't fow Hillary (for good reason!), there isn't the support for Hillary and the Obama elections weren't landslides.
But it's her image. She'll just never get the same support.
tmatthews98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it me or does he look exactly the same but entirely different at the same time?
unprdctbl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:47:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...You mean age?
fig1newton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe after cancer, Joe Biden can fix aging.
wwoodrum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is with the 1 finger salute? Is he in ISIS?
Guboj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the face of a man who doesn't have any more fucks to give.
_fancy_pancy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, he looks older now...
hdhale ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...but none the wiser.
Rowdy293 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If Bernie wins the presidency, imagine what he'll look like...
Muhon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did Obama smoke cigarettes?
HAWAll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People forget, it's been 8 years. Look at a picture of yourself 8 years ago and compare it to one now.
greyhoundsrfast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe the color change in his tie!
designgoddess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought you had to be older than 23 to run.
foxnight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine what Trump's hair would look like after presidency.
hdhale ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:59:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly the same. He pays a lot of money for that look, scary but true.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And still trying to close Gitmo.
TheTexasHead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Before crack, after crack
foxhound-mgs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks Stressed as fuck.
BocaSpeedRacer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
REKT
rebelde_sin_causa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just imagine Hillary in another 8 years.
dennautoworld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
soon he would be gone and trump would be the president haha
Orangeskill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he wore different ties
ohihaveasubscription ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If Sanders wins he might end up looking like the crypt keeper.
DaButterShutter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My fellow BOILS AND GHOULS
ipeench ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder what kinda binder sleeves the president uses.
whiterrabbbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, it looks like 20 years between these pics, not 8.
Bad_undergrad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd hate to see what it did to Bernie.
backtolurkingagain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can't learn about the world's and the governments secrets without a little stress.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even the microphone grew!
UselessIdeas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bombing palces and "pretending" not to care about the corateral damage kills you slowly. Also. Age.
megabreakfast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't you think he looks tired?
williamthomasjr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Way to pick an image with his eyes half closed.
Yourponydied ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie aged.....
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my god he looks drunk
Jungleiam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this kinda puts those meth before and after pictures into perspective.
tedcase ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This must have been taken just before Hector blew him up with a wheelchair bomb.
peskoly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years does a lot to someone, especially when they're already middle aged.
ShadowKymera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"The president does nothing, he only gets a free house"
Vajernicus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie turned grey
TheWorldMayEnd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Change we can see!
ThatRainbowGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even the tie is looks worn out.
Mazaltov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that notebook really filled up over 8 years.
skewp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When 900 years you reach, look as good, you will not.
scottishdrunkard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, he aged poorly in like what, eight years?
truandjust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good good.. your transformation is almost complete!
GilmerInSpace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Obama's first conversation with Justin Trudeau he warned him that he "had no gray hair" when he first took office
Claylock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie looks sadder
crinklysmilez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DAMN.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: people who are surprised someone looks different after 8 years on arguably the hardest job there is...
kingofthesofas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
has he cured cancer yet? Cause I got a feeling he has a strong case of Congress induced Cancer.
minimp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The guy in the background switched ties with him!
Babarsin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's still got it
zosch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even the tie is gray now
MattMan2k17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being president kicks the shit outta you
masahawk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess he just became another white president.
Southern-Yankee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"He looks tired. He looks so sad and old"
8 years bruh, only Keanu Reeves looks the same after that long.
He looks less energetic but more wise to me.
ThickDickVein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess black does crack.
HandsomeHeavy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder what Bernie will look like...
yinzertrash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
heavy is the crown.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who would have thought a man could change so much in 8 years?
SpikeNLB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's called aging 7 years.
Alphabunsquad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yah 8 years is a long time
snipsey01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's eye opening to realize how much stress they go through to age like that.
Duthos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like a shoddy clone. Which might explain the difference between the candidate obama, and the president obama.
Riganthor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it seems running a state has made him age 20% faster
cocojambles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
there's a painting in a room somewhere getting younger
its_a_clump_of_cells ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I honestly don't know why anyone would want the job.
You get your personal & professional life dragged through the worse criticism, no one is happy with what you do, it's a completely thankless job.
Everyone president who does two terms looks like absolute shit when they're done.
Commiecool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like when the guy drinks from the wrong grail cup in Indiana Jones.
lionello ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Undo! Undo!
Hippydippy420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks so full of hopes and dreams compared to the latter where he looks defeated.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshiiting the populace is serious business. period.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpa-5JdCnmo
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
his hairline stay fresh
curzon176 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, his ears have really grown.
domme007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: When becoming good friend with germany, learn to raise your left arm.
SEND_ME_YOUR_ASSPICS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, that was 8 years ago and one of the most stressful jobs in existence.
TheFishSeattle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Christ. What's Bernie gonna look like?
Chessmasterrex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well things do appear to be better, but remember that for Bush everything really went to shit after his last SOTU. Obama has roughly a year left...
michaelr96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too many cigs
peakest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's put an image of Syria before and after the election of Obama
Grizzer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Started like Denzel, ended like Morgan Freeman.
OldMcFart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same shirt and suit cut.
TacoGhost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess black does crack.
Deezey310 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its crazy how much all of the presidents age while in office
Ion000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUzkp8xfaU0
Or perhaps...
alwaysDL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's how i look ever since I found out buildings don't just disintegrate at the base.
goldandguns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, he went from 46 to 54. A lot of people start to fall to shit during this time.
Fatburg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You couldn't pay me enough to deal with the type of stress Obama (or any President) must have to deal with.
witwiki50 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean to say even the president ages?
sentient--meat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The ring of power corrupts all
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like the difference of America as a world power in 2009 to 2016
wajikay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black does crack.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We all have stress in our lives, especially with the American standard of living going down the toilet, and most of us tolerate a good deal of stress at work, too. Do presidents have above-average job stress? Probably. On the flip side, when the White House's septic system fails in the middle of January, he doesn't have to take 2 days off from work and unexpectedly pay someone $2500 to drill through frozen ground to get in there and fix it. He similarly doesn't have to worry about his own 17-year-old daughter getting to and from school safely every day because a fleet of trained government agents are seeing to that. I believe it probably all balances out.
Iambraves ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man he looks so confident in the left. A young man. However on the right he looks baked as fuck.
auui ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you mess up so much...it's hard not to let the stress get to you.
spolimetla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that 's alot of grey hair after the 8 years
IntiEtxegoia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why would you WANT to be President?
jeeps350 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like they were almost swapping ties. (I'm not very political)
Dondagora ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, God, what has Presidency done to him?!
He... He's become a lefty! The horror!
kamandi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie went grey.
NINJAFISTER ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder what sanders his change would be like if he became president
braedan51 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You ever see the end of Indiana Jones & the Last Crusade?
NINJAFISTER ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes
Trust_Me_Im_Right ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude aged like 25 years
GRuntK1n6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
rasesrzw2W/2/ser
o9ig267mkhmf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
good
captainangry24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That job might be a little stressful
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eight years have taken their toll.
extremenapping ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He has the expression of "I am tired of all of your shit."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why they don't let you do three terms, most people can't handle the accelerated aging effects
fletchoi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone get him some wrinkle cream adapter
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is my mental state when I first start a new job versus 1 year later.
nova20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well he has aged 7 years between those two pictures...
fat_lazy_american ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does he look darker in the second picture to anyone else?
rossboss200 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine what Bernie Sanders will look life after four years if he becomes President!
BigOldCar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:19:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Like THIS!
ElectroFlannelGore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/96SQuRP.jpg
SSJ Sanders
jfreez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I looked a lot better 7 years ago too
idriveacar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Compare yourself to 7 years ago.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, in the first picture he's 47, and in the second, he's 54.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me really sad :(
theprofessor24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The man knows stuff.
sinkezie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think Bernie will die.
Cambionr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:11:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, he won't even get the nomination; he's safe.
aresef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every year in office ages any president three or four
smeggery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie has felt the strain
fr003 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just glad that ring is one the same finger.
MrBleah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a look at the before and after for Abraham Lincoln. Oof.
CircusNinja75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, bye.
bisousbisous64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JUST
fuddyq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Change you can believe in.
voidcrusader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man smoking if bad for your skin.
zed0K ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confirmed being president makes your hands bigger over time
TenFootTone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Takes a lot out of ya
Simon_Richie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm tired boss... dog tired.
GameVoid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I predict buzzfeed running a before and after comparison of the past ten presidents before the end of the day.
newyorkzxtc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wonder what Bernie would look like in the same amount of time in the Presidency..
shaalth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FastFolk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now imagine if Bernie Sanders takes the Presidency..
BigOldCar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Thanks to the miracle of modern computer technology, we can predict with some accuracy what people will look like as they age.
Click here to see what Bernie Sanders would look like after eight years of the Presidency.
needstherapy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being president seems to drain people, he looks so much older now. Must be a hard job and very stressful.
ricanstyio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What a beating the presidency puts on a person.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All these years, and he still hasn't gotten to page 3 of that binder.
CGFROSTY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's really interesting how the presidents age so much during their 4-8 years in office. Here's a article showing how much other presidents have aged.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/05/presidents-before-and-after-photos_n_5617891.html
TheDarkMaster13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More wrinkles, more grey, different tie.
GOATrieIrving ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He hasn't aged badly at all.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The guy on the right is clearly a clone.
BigOldCar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm, something about being the leader of the most powerful nation on the globe seems to have some kind of effect on a man, almost as though it were a fairly stressful job.
Huh. Whaddya know about that.
kourikat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks so tired... Poor guy.
Ricecake21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Not sure if the first photo is photoshopped yo nigga i hacked into your account lololololololollllllll
plasticwalrusinc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If Bernie wins, his after picture will look like the crypt keeper
DUHduhDerp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Start of UNI, End of UNI
DehydratedDonut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like a completely different person
NemWan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidents seem to age a lot in office but recent ones seem to live a long time after leaving office. The most recent president who died before turning 90 is Nixon (he was 81) and two presidents are alive in their 90s.
Johnson is the most recent one who could be said to have been done in by the anguish of the job, gaining weight and un-quitting smoking and dying at age 64, just 4 years and 2 days after leaving office.
Soylent_Gringo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's because of the time spent at Bohemian Grove. It ages them more than normal, kind of like when Moses went up on Mount Sinai, saw the burning bush & came down noticeably changed.
moxiebaseball ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cocaine's one hell of a drug.
CraKaJaK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eight years ago, I looked a lot better, too.
inmyhead001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency is one helluva drug
ClintTorus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This goes to show that stress and health are very intertwined. Recognize what my previous job was doing to my health and choosing to quit because of it was the best decision I ever made. And thats why at 36 years old I still get carded for alcohol at most restaurants.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude's seen some shit.
Exitbuddy1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The binder...
Tmotty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being the President is the worst thing you can do for your health.
Firstbroadcast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like he's ages at least 6 years 359 days.
Fire_Gaming_UAV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those were 8 terrible years for him.
issius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Better off doing meth. At least you'll have a good time.
labithiotis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Both photos have been altered to increase contrast, shame because I can only imagine the effect and stress of running the US has on you.
vlasvilneous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is almost as if they age.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So much stress picking a tie
fredburma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. I know we've seen pictures before that detail the stress of leadership but this is still astounding. Only eight years, isn't it?
JMejia5429 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And he became left handed too.
and here comes the downvotes
ptapobane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
damn he aged at least twice as fast as someone in his relative position should...
Fizics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always think when I see these comparisons "What did they tell you? What secrets do you know now that you didn't in the first picture?"
switchhh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the photo on the right is clearly one of the worst possible, i'd like to see if there are comparsion more "fair".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I call it "Hope and Change"
JazzFan418 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's only 54
GetBumRushedMate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awww. I actually like the guy.
satellite_uplink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tough gig!
blanknull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the length of mic is also getting bold.
DatBuridansAss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From Denzel Washington to Nelson Mandela
jamie_cross ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It ain't easy being president!
xToToRoYNx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OMG, he tots looks like he aged 8 years or something. Eww.
OpiatedDickfuzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your job involved having your plans and ambitions in the hands of Mitch McConnell and john boner (i didn't spell that incorrectly), you too would look like that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Solid and consistent sleep is possibly the best thing you can do for your body. The lack thereof for only a week makes people look not as well. Now take that week and and multiply it by 8 years.
These guys don't get good sleep for their entire term. Obama can't ever really relax. He lives at work. Sure, the WH has its own quarters but he's not known real privacy for 7 years. Compare pictures of McCain from 2008 to now. He looks basically the same.
It's baffling why anyone would want the job. It's as if these guys have an existential crisis and want to be remembered in history so much they're willing to toss good health aside
le_fromage_puant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bill Clinton
conquer69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Picture on the left is blurry which makes him look younger. Not a fair comparison.
CrispyTech ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks sleepless in his last Union
kem7xf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People like to talk about presidential aging, and sure, stress probably doesn't help. But 8 years between late 40s and 50s, you're going to see significant changes on everybody
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay lets do a control group. We will go back in time and sabotage his votes and in 8 years we will see if his hair changes colors. Get on it scientist.
fission035 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Obama!
mkperry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black does crack...
Andi2483 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he's just aging. I've also changed a lot since I was 12.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he gave it up several years ago.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Joe Rogan Wasn't lying
SkeemBoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
should have quit smoking
ax255 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks beat...
Dire87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Almost forgot how young he looked 8 years ago...it's staggering. I haven't really changed much in those 8 years...
frustman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Working a leadership position now. No doubt I get more sleep than he does, but I've already had several bouts of illness as a result of my lack of rest. Don't envy the man one bit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
Inbredit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol he's still wearing that same ring.
musicman835 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wedding Ring
Inbredit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FLOTUS band
interwebbed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
y'all tired the shit outta this dude.
he's sick of your shit
Alan_Smithee_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That job does seem to take it out of a person.
Funberto211 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow presidency = crack
MontiBurns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Oh Abe, you've aged terribly"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Poor man :(
wolfman863 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He turned south paw. Welcome to the tribe, Barak.
zaturama015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ
Poopie_McPooperson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That binder is a little thicker
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He pledged to go down swinging, forcing change through presidential decree rather then due process. He is setting a very dangerous president for our Country.
misterfrank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good catch! The ties in the front and back switched colors!
flamingomike23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He became a lefty
sedentaryoverdose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So he stopped using Just for Men products?
drtapp39 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This man has heard some serious shit and done some stuff... I wouldn't recommend it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep in mind, these guys are aging 7 years during the time in life when you really start showing your age. Yes, you can pull up actors who do not show this....but I bet if you looked at pictures of your parents at age 45 and again at 52...you would see almost as much difference.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to the era of HD photograph. Everyone loves to hate the president, but man it looks like he's been working hard.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, now I don't want to be President, that stress aging though
ATX_native ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When your like Trump fillers and other surgical tweaks can keep you swollen looking and orange into your 80's.
Humpty-Numpty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought black didn't crack?
That hasn't so much cracked as caved in...
Bengalman753 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A punch of grey..
Spacegod87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Considering all the shit he's had to deal with, I'm not surprised..
DAOWAce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, we need to find ways to slow aging for humanity.
Not many people live to 100+, and if we do we're just so old and frail there's not really much we can do in life anymore.
So sad..
TheGOATMILK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dealing with a stubborn congress really wares you down :/ Obama killed it as usual last night though!
oofficial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good speaker. Terrible politician
TheGOATMILK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here we go....
DHHKS87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is now a lefty!
Awesome_flubkin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I miss 2008 Obama. So full of hope
cujojack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
7-8 years ago look at yourself you will. Aged well maybe you have not!
alcofrisbas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His hair leeched into his binder
Kamereon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People are saying he didn't change anything, but that's not true. He changed hands
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie went grey.
Little_kid-lover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heavy lies the crown...
Jonaldson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like his own grandpa
mastersw999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He switched pointing hands.
WifehasDID ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is almost like people age a lot faster in their 50's
OnDaRUF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unbelievable what lack of sleep will do to a human.
IAmChillaxing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His tie changed colors.
AdilB101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm afraid of age.
RandomWhiteGuyRage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is so crazy what a couple presidential terms do to a person. He started out right handed and by the end of his second term he was left handed.
ryan924 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But he takes too many vacations /s
doommonk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you take the blue obama or the red obama
Puck85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie went grey!
SteroidSandwich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Leading the most powerful country would be so stressful, especially when a lot of the residence are trying to bring you down for doing the right thing
DPRK_Friends ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First pic, all excited about "Hope" and "Change"... Second pic, the cold reality of an entrenched system where politicians are puppets to the global elite has set in, while giving a lackluster speech on "American Superiority" even he doesn't believe.
baltimoretom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Sabiancym ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT people think the President is king and should be blamed for everything not getting done by the wave of his hand. Despite there being a congress.
Godfather522 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He upgraded binders
6matguy6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Got better and tying his tie.
SaysFuckthatshit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck that shit
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pharrell to Morgan Freeman in 8 years.
maplesyrupinmycoffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his American flag pin turned grey.
Adiuva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, even his tie aged.
ItsMeSeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heavy is the head that wears the crown
sxysteve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean its been almost ten years. Ten years ago I was in elementary school now I'm about to turn 29. I am sure I look a lot different.
greygoat123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:33:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You were in elementary school when you were 18?
modonaut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:37:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah i did a double take at this one too.
Sun-Anvil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that is a very good depiction of what high stress will do to you. I would not be surprised if he had ulcers and sever headaches.
kalmit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How you look after smoking a strain of sativa vs. a strain of indica.
ctigers124 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep in mind he was 47 or 48 in the first picture and is now almost 55. A lot of graying/aging occurs in this age group.
That said, he does look like he got freakin wrecked.
asylum117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So he looked better when he was a smoker
JustBronzeThingsLoL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh dang, he's using black binders instead of white binders now. That's how you know shit got real.
free_mustacherides ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Worst job ever
Polar87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone is going on about how he aged, but i find it more striking how he goes from having this really hopeful "I am going to change things for the better" appearance to an appearance that is more indifferent and slightly depressed. As if he discovered the reality of being president.
Master_Tallness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being the president has certainly taken it's toll on Obama, but the right picture isn't a very flattering pose for him where the left one is. If you actually watched the speech you'd know he doesn't look as "tired" as this picture would suggest.
brk1yn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
$100/bbl vs. $30/bbl
TheSilverNoble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a rough job
goatlll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We always see the pictures of the presidents accelerated aging but I would like to see how vice presidents looked the day they started Office and the day they left as a control group.
N9Nz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
left is a wax figure, the right is HERBS from Jamaica
essential_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna miss this man.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This definitely proves that lying 24 / 7 is not good for your health.
earther199 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I've seen things."
Gasaraki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not easy being a president.
zanif ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like he's seen some shit
Feoreos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hell even his tie faded!
ThisIsJustSenseless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can someone do this for more presidents please?
Jessori ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie became grey.
L4V1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All those hidden secrets and conspiracies that want to get out are making him older. Ahh poor obama. Just go out like a man and let truth be heard about lies and corruptions for the sake of man
prevAlurker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turning into a Sith Lord he is
adamorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still had a good head of hair.
Suddenly I had a flashback to back to the future..
PommyAndrews ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Baroke Oldbama.
DrGluu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It looks like the presidency requires you to channel the dark side.
oh_no_aliens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years and aged horribly.
RealEnoughtobeRead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years of basically never sleeping will age anyone pretty fast.
Wudzy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So hopeful : So done with this shit
shadowmonk10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant News Article Leading a Nation Takes Years Off Life, Study Suggests
Uncle_Cheech ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The new face of Just for Men
gustix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he looks good at 54. Besides, he looked younger than 46 in the first picture.
stoopidyoshi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stress will do that
mscman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So will 8 years...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He stopped dying his hair.
asudan30 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. I had no idea 200 rounds of golf would do that to you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Somewhere in the White House is a life sucking monster, anyone know where Monica Lewinsky is these days?
heinst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie aged
HaydenTR17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His tie color doesn't help him a bit in these pictures.
crachor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Left: "listen here, we are going to get SO much done!"
Right: "listen here you little shits..."
purplezart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm left wondering how much of this transformation was intentional.
Radeon3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His binder got bigger
Sadducky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His tie even lost coloration
dispencery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His ring looks like it could slip right off his finger in the more recent picture.
AvatarIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He magically became left handed?
Rivenzin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Although he has aged quite a bit its made seemingly more so by the picture on the right being of much higher quality. The wrinkle detail is very apparent.
Boobz_Plz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Life is short, people...
Gridlife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama started wearing less and going out more
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dat grey.
BitchesLoveGames ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same reason I believed him when he said he wasn't wanting to run again at first.
Would be neat to do a family shot comparison too.
hermod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And now I feel bad about getting older. Thanks Obama.
rizefall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Last? I'm not up to date of how things work. But is it because he can only be president for a set amount of years?
onehundredbillion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gonna miss this guy. He always had a prosperous attitude and positive vibe about things. You could feel it every time he took the podium.
c0mpliant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie turned grey
YisThatUsernameTaken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He changed to using his left hand, as before he was using his right. His tie, which was red, is now a blue one. We see the transformation from republican to democrat.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Nilfy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woosh.
grumpypenguin1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So makeup vs no makeup?
SupersonicEmbryonic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His transition to Tyrone Biggums is nearly at its end.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rekt.
werewolfghostkiller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years at the hardest job? Anyone would look radically different.
Wreckless711 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He went in right handed and came out left handed.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do the tie stripes all go the same way? Obama's and Biden's both slope the same way. I noticed this last night, and this picture adds another one to it, since it show's Obama's first address.
Is there a reason for stripes going that way as opposed to the other?
kajenius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another one. We the best
johnjacobfisheater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its hard out here fo uh pimp
EnemyAce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Should've worn the tan suit.
Bulletproofman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Gentlemen, you must pardon me. I have grown old in the service of my country"
-- George Washington
hilarymeggin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency makes you ugly.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being the president is a killing job. No joke.
XxXMLGHamsterXxX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at his grey hair
BillyBobBanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"He's seen some things, man, with some stuff"
creativecartel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's still the fuggin man
ProcrastinationTime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie turned gray.
Nyxtia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its simple dye your hair and don't tell makeup artist no...
rTeOdMdMiYt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, a middle aged man getting eight years older looks older.
Mclovinisawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks tired.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like those three-ring binders could be classier.
Kazmr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If this is how Obama changed in 8 years I'm guessing Bernie Sanders will look half dead.
will_code_for_free ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't care if I agree with your policy positions as president or not. The position commands respect. I salute you Mr. President for serving your country.
cathar_here ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A couple of things, the age of most presidents in that 40-50 year range when they take office, well men age considerably over 8 years during the 40s and 50s. Whether president or not, there are some huge differences.
georgejones09291987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Taking bets now. Does he move Marijuana out of schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act on his last day in office. (yes the executive does have the authority to do this)
iodian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he would be a total ass for waiting 8 years to do it.
georgejones09291987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
politically it was the only option
iodian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:46 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and he will be an ass for it.
BIGFO0OT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He switched from bloods to crips
johnniewebb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Changed his tie.. pretty crazy
aprilseven2015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks so tird.
Doza13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Bloomberg cover was not wrong.
colorsofshit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't there a post a couple years ago with a bunch of presidents at the beginning of their term and at the end of their term - all looked you in beginning then really worn out at the end?
macarena_of_time ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What have we done to him?
sports_and_wine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how Bernie would look in his eighth year at age 85.
Ghitre27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can somebody show me a recent picture of him smiling? I haven't seen one of those.
pizzalikeus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's obviously aged, as you do. But the pictures have different lighting and colouration, they've chosen slightly different expressions (the second one catching him with his eyes more closed and not smiling), and he's not as groomed (eyebrows look tidied up in the first). The second one is even closer up to highlight all these things. Not much to see here.
DeuceSevin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having been around a while, I'm always amazed by how much our presidents age while in office. So in this thread have claimed it is just normal 8 yrs of aging, but I think the stress takes its toll. I'd like to see a side-by-side of our the last few presidents and their unsuccessful challengers over the same 8 year period. I think you'd see a bigger difference in the ones who were elected. Except Ronnie Reagan. He didn't seem to age at all while in office. Of course, he was already as old as dirt when he was elected.
NnerdD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's done some things, and seen some things.
bradyblack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uncle Sam sure do take a bite.
matticans7pointO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
President is a hell ofa drug
tune345 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh man ! he has worked so hard
stonersebass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's something about his tie, isn't it?
tuvok86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie faded
IIMrBlue818II ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess black does crack
TrantAens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of afraid to see what's going to happen to Bernie...
Ceasarsweatshirt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fresh Prince to Morgan Freeman
piknick1994 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like how even his tie in the last picture is less colorful
myworkaccount09 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it because of the evil he had to do? Or because of all the love that was drained?
Rhed0x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years look like 20.
Shogun102000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Photoshop is real.
Infiltrator41 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Zombie Obama.
Calber4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw this picture in an article in 2008 predicting what each of the leading candidates would look like after 8 years in office. Not too far off.
Fridgeburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Old sage Obama
ReactorOperator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, even his tie is turning grey.
jstamour802 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see his tie went from Red to Blue. What hard times.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like he aged a decade or something.
edbro333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie lost its vibrancy
Maggost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's getting old!
downthewholebottle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years of nothing but stress will age the crap out of you.
0sirseifer0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How many years apart is this? Too lazy to google.
Eastcoastbum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He made it one page into his binder in the 8 years he's been in office!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being blackmailed by the NSA every week for 8 years will do that to a guy.
centech ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My god he looks as if he's aged 8 years during just two terms in office!
MissLexxxi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the hell did we do to this man?!
lennyp4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard somewhere that presidents can age up to four years per term
zsign ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie went gray.... I'll see myself out.
dghughes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amazing when a picture taken as a person is blinking makes them look tired.
the_coolest_amigo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency is a hell of a drug.
mustangbraveheart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We've aged him.
fuschialantern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The color temperature is changed so he obviously looks more sombre on the right. You can tell by the color of the American flag pin on his lapel, assuming they don't change those regularly.
Woosah_Motherfuckers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His eyebrows look glorious.
Seriously, is he treating them? They're thicker and more stern.
RealSarcasmBot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meanwhile the queen of the commonwealth has undergone that transformation in over 80 years.
Coincidence? I DON'T THINK SO
geekmansworld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say they got it pretty spot on...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/27/how-the-presidential-cand_n_98861.html
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency ages you to pretty quick. The stress of the country and the world on your shoulders. Look at W after his 8 year term, looks just as a tired.
Delbitter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he's left handed now!
Roflumpagus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie looks tired
Angus_MacPhee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know Obama has a son.
neoanguiano ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
could you imagine what it would do to Trump, Sanders or Clinton?
ggold329 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If we show this pic to Trump maybe he will bow out of the race. Imagine the damage that would be done to his hair.
4e3655ca959dff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost like he got older.
Zep_Rocko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of weird to just post his picture after putting it through this. http://www.in20years.com/
Thearne4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He seems to have filled his binder over the years
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it public yet that he had stroke? His left side is clearly injured.
thetroll12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like he is having fun
ashlerrr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had better hopes for him on this... since black people age better.
helimx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also it looks as if he's lost a little too much weight. His wedding ring looks like it would fall off if he's not careful.
-Dargs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's also about 8 years older. Just saying, that might be a slight contribution.
intergalacticvoyage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This looks obviously taken while he was blinking..
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The dark side did that to him.
jcrocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also weirdly became left handed. I can only assume they are hiding his debilitating stroke that paralyzed his right side.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DOES everyone see what smoking cigs does to you... your face changes and you look older.... though he is older now LOL
Electroguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They touch em up to look younger going in and to look older going out... and golfing really takes its toll...
mikelowski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brad pitt 2005
http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20131118/rs_634x1024-131218110206-634.brad-pitt-blond.cm.121813.jpg
Brad Pitt 2015
http://us.hola.com/imagenes/premios/oscar/20150212826/oscar-2015-brad-pitt-matthew-mcconaughey-jared-leto/0-4-668/oscbrad--a.jpg
kaywiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess black does crack after all. The White House is a helluva drug.
Donttellmehowtolivem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, he started off right and ended up left. It's like reverse Catholic school
I_ama_Borat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A similar pic was posted like a month or two ago that looked basically the same. I bet if anybody else posted this pic, it wouldn't hit the frontpage but since one of the biggest karma whores did, there was no question it would.
jomo777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget, he did grow 8 years older...That typically makes a huge difference on a person.
jennymirage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
still cute/10
Suicd3grunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Faces of Presidency
brberg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: If you look at two pictures taken at different times side-by-side and cross your eyes, you can see in 4D.
n0tmyr3alname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did his head get so big?
CyberHiggz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When your about to say something and your friend interrupts
goask ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Con. Law professors are so naive. He actually thought Congress would go along with his plans to help so many of the very people who hate him so much. He has more patience than I could have.
jabbaji ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whom is he pointing out to in there.
Twatberriesandcream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It may be racist to ask, but did he get less black?
rtmacfeester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All presidents that I can remember look like that at the beginning and end.
Cyrino420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does anyone have one of Michelle Obama at the first and last?
doctorpotters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being in office really fucks you up
ognaf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie has gone grey.
Ta2whitey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years will do that to you.
cincyjoe12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who knew someone would age over the course of 7 years?
babylon55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's an eight year difference, of course he looks older. Also, the left picture looks like he is wearing make up, versus the right picture where he looks like he really doesn't care about that anymore.
CouthDecay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On that age guessing site.... http://i.imgur.com/Em46B1G.jpg
YevP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stress. It's a thing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wow people get older over time, go figure.
ehkzibiht ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Change.
KKraKHeD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These muthafuckas killin' each other WTF.
BonnieandHyde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DAE elapsed time?
USBrock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie turned grey.
big_jonny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The burden of the Ring...
Yarddogkodabear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He rubbed an onion on his face to make him look like he'd shouldered the nation's problems.
itsNOSAJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a really shitty picture. Could have picked a better second picture making him look more lively and still get the point across that he looks older.
snsmth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his suit has slightly greyed.
tcoots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can someone imagine up a Bernie Sanders before and after?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't let the door handle go up your ass on the way out.
havek23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just look at JFK's presidency, he looked fairly young when he started and before you knew it; dead.
Kingspot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a comparison that isn't so purposefully polarized.
[back then]
[Now]
bryxy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what it did to me too....... PUT AWAY THE PITCHFORKS - it's because I transitioned into my early 40's, so it took him longer to get gray than me!!
Roman420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It has been 8 years and dude smokes
Bedpanjockey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn.
BestDogeInShow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not surprising for someone who just spent 8 years doing one of the most stressful jobs in the world
ATypeOfDog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The last black president?
highwind1985 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His "first" version is actually still preserved in a holding tank, the current one is a reptillian in a skinsuit. The skinsuits degrade faster than normal human flesh does, hence why most, if not all, presidents look drastically older in just 4-8 years.
Or something like that, I'm just fucking around. Presidency is a bitch, man.
dusting53 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so you want to be president?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would not want that job, i thought my job was stressful.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll never forget the time I saw his face after he resurfaced from his first debriefing with officials after taking on the presidency. He looked like someone just told him that the earth was going to blow up in 12 hours. Some harrowing looking expressions on his face.
Coast_watcher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That means Hillary will look like the Wicked Witch of the West in her last one ?
13thmurder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie turned gray.
the_bird_lives ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie is getting old.
Coolbreezy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They do this with every president. It's always the same result
TheloniousPhunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I totally get that being the president is a stressful job.
But you people do realize these pictures are like eight years apart, yeah?
Like, someone his age, with children mind you (most of the stress you have before you deal with children really becomes small beans) is obviously going to look older after eight years. When you factor in having ANY sort of stressful job, then no fucking shit he looks the way he does.
It has nothing to do with being the President, and everything to do with just being a human being who is getting older.
Hobomandan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I should have let ol' whitey take this job"
mikailus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's seen a lot of shit. A LOT.
DenaunMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He has not aged well.
pump_the_brakes_son ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly why Bernie and Hillary are too old for an 8 year term and shouldn't be elected.
EricRic562 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's what learning the governments darkest secrets will do to you
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you can tell the first pic was touched up though
bjoe1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That book is stressed too ๐ข
DenaunMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it bad if Obama is my favourite US president?
ravia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1 High school debate club
2 Roundtable discussion on shrubbery at the retirement home
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya go figure people lokk aged when its 6 years later...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hopeful, optimistic. -> Hopeless, cynical.
PepperoniDolci ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even the tie got grey.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cortisol is a helluva drug.
88888888888 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
city miles
JPhrog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, Obama!
Kurtronic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess black does crack.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This in an unbalanced comparison!
At least show him young and in bad mood or old and in good mood.
Btw, the whole from-to picture range is nothing else than dating a girl the first times and later married her. Youยดre not campaigning anymore, you know :D
andyjonesx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie has washed out.
Screen_Watcher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agebooth 2.0?
AJtheluckyone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not just his hair but his skin is more grey.
skysthelimitis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least he traded that shitty white binder with silver rings for a sleek black one with gold rings, much better
eastwoods ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He... switched hands?
zukatex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be sick of congress too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck, his tie changed colors so much
DarkOmen597 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even that binder has gotten bigger.
NetGalaksy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks 8 years older plus 8 years in office.
yes_its_him ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't do meth, kids.
xfocalinx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the left is a man who wants to change america. On the right is a man who knows who killed JFK and knows what goes on at area 51 and can't tell anybody.
toxic181 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What would have he looked like had he not been president?
VotreDieu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency, turning right handed people into lefties.
svrtngr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was hoping for this before the end. Alas.
hisconchliness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His tie changed the most.
vespa59 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Experiment complete. Conclusion: Black does indeed crack if you expose it to seven years of the whiny fuckwads in Congress.
mdnghttkr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks cynical
MCmevin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God, look how grey his tie got
ModestCow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Idk if it's possible for Bernie to look more old asf. Should be interesting to see what 8 years as president does to him.
gospeed77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes - his taste in ties has improved!
jakeduhjake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie looks more gray!
But seriously, he got a bunch of stuff done. I get tired too when I do a bunch of stuff, and I'm not doing it on a presidential level.
Walrusmelon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think in both SOTUs he mentioned creating infrastructure to get America into the 20th century. In fact I think he said this every SOTU he did.
ohjbird3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whoa he looks almost 10 years older, wonder why?!?!
wimpymist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And they say black don't crack
rageofheaven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how much different I'd look from 47-55?
AvBigboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
being president isn't stressful at all
terrorismofthemind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well there's no way for the reptiles to get a perfect fit in the skin. So, it's a little wrinkly now and it's hair turned gray. Oh well.
thepugface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama replaced by reptilian confirmed.
ImMediocreAtSex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is so fucking stupid. The picture cause him in the middle of a blink. He' aged just link anyone in his age range over a 7 year period.
NiteNiteSooty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
his ears are different in the recent pic
Wonderbreadin11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie turned grey
HabibaKeshk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only striped tie is the same...even words changed...
rebbit_007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like Palpatine, give him a few years and he'll transform into his true Darth Sideous form
Pipstydoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank god it's over. Now we can get our next corporate puppet.
the-eh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The pin on his jacket must have had a tough time, compared to him.
truthseeeker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually not that bad if compared to similar photos of some of his predecessors.
TheMadMaritimer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Politics are a hell of a drug.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn his ears
lifestream87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's a man who has seen some shit
TingIeTits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was a red beacon of hope, and they made him take the blue pill
Dirkooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think of all the stress and shit he's had to go through. I honestly believe he has been a great president, who has tried very hard to stay true to his promises. He brought us our of a recession and has done a lot of reform that has needed attention for a long time. Battling through Congress is another mess, and he didn't get everything he wanted to get done, but I think he did a damn good job compared to his predecessor.
5baserush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The mantle he took takes a huge toll on all who wear it.
Also going from 1080p to 4k more easily shows imperfections.
LittleBalloHate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't know if I have a good sense of how someone "should" age in 7 years. My expectations are from Hollywood, where people are highly professionally motivated to freeze their looks for as long as possible.
It always feels like Presidents age poorly, but you could convince me that this is an illusion, and that they're aging like perfectly normal humans that Hollywood isn't spending millions of dollars on to cryogenically freeze. We don't notice it with friends because the effect is so gradual, but I wouldn't be surprised if most of us have this significant a difference over any 10 year span. Or maybe not.
paulec252 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anybody know what knot he used in the before picture?
sassatron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
โat least we have found the answer to the amount of pressure under which black does crack.โ
-Trevor Noah
CozzyC0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years will do that. 8 hard fucking years to be the President, never mind a black president.
eqi394 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
is there any president who didn't become gray haired?
Internettaskforce ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:39:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JFK
royalenocheese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sees news of another domestic terrorist attack. Russian diplomats criticizing him once again. Being called out by another terror group official
stares at launch command console
sighs and walks to the Oval Office for yet another speech
brajpop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The man has seen some shit he wish he has never seen.
buddhistagnostic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every president looks so much older and more exhausted when they finish their terms. Even more than eight years can account for.
postalinspectorlloyd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Old man got old
nvpc2001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to see a before and after of Bernie if he wins
DemonB7R ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I despise him and his policies, but never will I say he didn't work hard. POTUS is probably one of the worst jobs in existence. At times, literally the weight of the world is on your shoulders and your decision in the next 10 seconds can change millions of lives forever. The stress is so bad. Hell someone should post pics of Clinton and Bush at their first and last SotU's. The change is probably just as striking.
ShotgunRonin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even the flag pin on his lapel faded. Damn.
zouppp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn the new house speaker face looks sarcastic as fuck, like when Obama is talking, his face is all, wtf is this president talking about.
crucifuge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a look at pretty much any pictures of someone around 47, then around 54. Its not that uncommon.
mreatsum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He learned to point and work the other hand.
davidjschloss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh, he got a new tie!
Fan_of_Reddit31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't forget that it's also been 8 years. Stress or not, 8 years is a significant age gap.
Slimjor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years is a hell of a drug.
piperluck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can anyone do this with Biden? Be interesting to see how he aged if at all
summitorother ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm getting too old for this shit."
HellaBrainCells ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well there goes the anti-christ cyborg theory. Damn.
McBain_letsget_silly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
new tie
bluecubano ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Obama
scelerat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like he's aged almost a decade!
CitrusNinja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Contrary to popular belief, black does sometimes crack.
SignDeLaTimes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really makes you wonder what Bernie's going to look like after his fourth year in office...
zxzxzxWelcomeToOsu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Breaking news! People have habits!
gronke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And now let's post photos of you 8 years apart and see how old you look, OP.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like Pat Paulsen finally became president.
Templer6500 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From bright eyed and bushy tailed to fuck this shit
flotsamandalsojetsam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It ain't easy being the big dog.
willpreecs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Force Lightning, not even once.
37214 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what happens when you have teenagers.
believeINCHRIS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This turned into a Goodfellas thing and I love it. Shoutout to Obama when he said that thing about the only people who will have a long term job with retirement benefits and health benefits and everyone laughed. The look on his face was priceless like he was saying "this shit isnt a fucking joke!" They hate him so much lol.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is what women do to you. They suck the life and soul out of you!
LuckyGoGo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
its hard to be a petty tyrant when the host nation has a constitution in place in case one made it into office.
Emanking2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a great comparison and very revealing to what the president goes through. Funny thing is, he will look younger once he leaves office. I don't envy the position of the president.
nice-guy-asshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The first image is photoshopped to smooth out his complexion.
itsmaxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First pic looks like trevor noah.
saunds22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think he really quit smoking
shawcable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
got a lot of people tryna take my energy tryna take it awayyyyyyyyyyy from a nigga
MattchewTaDerm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The shit that man has seen and experienced in the past ~8 years....
DeadlyOwlTraps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Should've used more sunscreen while golfing.
andy_tom91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's the wear and tear when you're occupation is President of the United States
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard to keep the public from knowing the earth is really flat.
PJM1990 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What did you do to him 'Murica?
rephan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Congrats on the 10k updoots!
i_likepaper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same tailor.
rbuicki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those 8 years in office haven't been good for him.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would like to see this with every president that has been around since photography. I bet this aging is a very common theme.
deegsboy24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry Obama, I always loved u doe
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quick, someone count the # of stripes in both ties and figure out the hidden illuminati code he's trying to send!!!
consolewars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
first pic is airbrushed
DJSyko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You would think there was 20 years difference between them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The picture of a dead president. Already long forgotten. The king is dead! Long live the King!
Theaty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dealing with congress gives you grey hair!
mrhansenable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's gonna happen to Bernie if he becomes president? Is he going to turn into ashes?
notaclevermanboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's been pulling on his ears too much!
barneytotos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
they age so fast
Johnny-3-Hats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tough job
dontastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like he picked up some city miles
Deviknyte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me_irl
westvanthuggin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
No offence but seeing a photo like this makes me wonder where the reddit hivemind thinks Sanders will be in 8 years.
abowersock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude. What's Bernie gonna look like?!
averytolar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dang, the Presidency is one debilitating sickness.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Had no clue for what he was in for
little-endian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a scene from The Wire that I'm reminded of.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like the now photo is purposefully one where he's mid word and looks extra bad
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same suit, different tie
piratemurray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His tie has aged badly
Nowin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm convinced. We hold our presidents in a time dilation field so they can do more than 8 years of work in 8 years.
kouttoukis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://codeclicker.com/click/game?id=11249 free paysafe cards
pmor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Presidential EARS have not been kind to him...
uselessDM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, he also is like 7 years older now, so that maybe has something to do with it as well.
j0hnqpublic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Let me be clear."
billionaire_ballsack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know it's probably just something silly like lack of sunshine and too strict a diet regimen.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[Allahu Dunkbar]http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/51366857
parl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just seven years I can make you a[n OLD] man.
https://youtu.be/cpjQzi6v2Hk
Scotty346 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That tie really makes him look old.
nMaibO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
left: without a ring (single)
right: with a ring (married)
margarine_of_evil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks so old and tired now. He had some pep in his step back in 2009, and he looked so young, now, he just looks like he's ready to get out of there.
Fecklessbollox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Knowledge is sorrow
MumrikDK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck man. He looks like eight years or so older...
Comments_Alot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like the ring aged as well, went from golden to eh I'm still shiny .
Defender-1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
First, thats a horrible picture of him. Second, is being almost ten years, so yeah, he aged a bit -Omgcantbeliveit
sabertoothedhedgehog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy
FritzLubliz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you realize he has been gaining hairline, not losing it.
Thumbs up!
LMFO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For as much shit everyone gives every president, there's no way to truly know how stressful that job would be. The amount of things they have to deal with on a day to day basis pretty obviously breaks down your body. I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't mild forms of PTSD after their terms are up.
malaihi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stopped the hair dye?
MZA87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, you mean a man looks older, grayer, and more wrinkled at 54 than he did at 46? BULLSHIT. /s
I look a lot different at 28 than I did at 20. And I'll look a lot different at 36 than I do at 28.
And let's keep in mind; whoever made this absolutely took the time to find the best possible still from his first, and the worst possible still from his last, just to exaggerate the point.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man I hope Bernie makes it one term.
arickmc1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow! Who would have guessed that being president would cause change of handedness
johnturek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His binder is empty in the first picture... must have realized he better have papers in it if he is carrying a binder around.
wilhelm322 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who the hell elected Morgan Freeman!?
J1987R ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stress = white hairs and bags
GrizzlyBearBlues ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The first photo looks like it's been shopped to smooth out his face like he had absolutely 0 wrinkles before being elected.
Gl00k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wazzup bitches http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03528/putin-3-way_3528087b.jpg
Taylib ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He got a new binder.
LoudMusic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't want to be president anymore :(
MaleWithAPenis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://sploid.gizmodo.com/before-and-after-the-presidency-the-dramatic-aging-of-1530050410
itsDanBull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His hairline has ... what's the opposite of receded?
hashslingingbutthole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All these people saying how 7 years of aging will do that to a person are right. But that's not the point. 7 years of aging doesn't do THAT to a normal person's eyes man.
Kylebeast420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yikes.
shoopdahoop22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ. 8 years really makes a difference...
Eckiro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks so much older now.
Metal-Phoenix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, it looks like breaking campaign promises and increasing prosecution for whistle-blowers really takes a toll on you.
Arfman2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean trying to get things done, all the time being frustrated/worked against by the Republicans? If so, yeah.
Metal-Phoenix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, I meant exactly what I said. I choose my words very carefully so that they couldn't be misconstrued or misunderstood.
RekrabGrimm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He couldn't get shit done when he had a Democratic super majority.
Megatron-81- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's called a filibuster. Look it up. Also passed the ACA in 2009 with a supermajority. Check your facts.
TarzanKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is change!
Hahha. Obama looks like child, then old man!
Obama is bad man
WooterYouDoin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is also 8 years olders
ebolaworld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yet Michelle Obama looks the same.
GisseGisseGiss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obamalf the grey.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine I would spend 5 minutes before bed every night screaming MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!! if I had that job.
BlaiddDrwg82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly can't understand why anyone would want to be president. Just doesn't seem conducive to a healthy, happy, long life.
scoldeddog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Besides the 400K paycheck for the rest of your life. Along with all the multi million dollar book deals and all the kickbacks you get from the wealthy contributors of yours for the rest of your life. Not a bad gig if you ask me.
pchampn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A little love from your friends does that to you
big_fig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So if we get Bernie Sanders into the white house, he's dead after his term?
Zenopus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aging! It's a thing!
PennFifteen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what happens when you're soul is sucked dry by the Illuminati.
Hermano_D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing I notice is that their are far more pages in his binder.
baconsoupfordays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another one
selfish_liberal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of that is normal aging.
Weekend833 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, his wedding ring.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gee, people age. Such shock.
virginityrocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That hairline tho
BaconCola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
became left handed
Pnk-Kitten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What we need to finally end this debate is a set of identical twins. One wins the presidency, the other goes about his life normally. (Don't ask me how) Then at the end of term, we compare them and see how much is normal aging and how much is the presidency.
Cheese_on_top ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How many years between these photos?
Volomon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ, the man has aged 20 years easily.
ilaunchpad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also been eight years. People age too!! Plus the incredible amount of stress.
HumpyMagoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All of the Presidents in my time have started out looking decent and healthy, towards the end of their term they look noticeably changed.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Republicans are vampires.
Mr_Unknown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has seen some SHIT
thatFilmGuy2533 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We did it boys; we figured out how to speed up the aging process!
jamiemac2005 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not the only job that burns the soul out of you.
blackbutters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh he stopped wearing Just For Men.
docchakra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good, let the hate flow through you
CannibalVegan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He hit Manopause.
dirtytreebranch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope Obama eases up the marijuana laws in multiple states before he leaves his term.
ebolaworld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can see all the hope sucked out of him.
shiggydiggypreoteins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meth; not even once.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That flag pin has been through some shit
FiftyShadesOfNo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's seen some shit man
neoikon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
POTUS... one hell of a drug.
Whiskeysneat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jennifer Aniston is 46, quick, someone save a photo of her! Let's see how downhill she gets after 8 years!
baloneybopper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn! I guess stress does give you grey hair
sail__away ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"look what they make you give"
Lucerna1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not as bad as Bush.
titaniumjew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his binder looks tired
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow
MoreCowbellllll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Similar thing happened to a guy at our office who took the VP of Operations position. He aged really fast!
AlbinoMetroid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency: Not even once.
erosennin95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Murica gets to you.
SenorJordo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama?
Fitnesslad50 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency. Not even once.
rabdas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Switching of his dominant arm for gestures? The 80's child in me says this Obama was replaced by alien lizards sometime ago in order to turn us into food.
mynameisjiev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine what Bernie Sanders will look like after 7-8 years in office.
McFeely_Smackup ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie
makenzie71 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One human year must be something like two or three president years.
mjohnson062 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is no longer left-handed. He is now a righty.
Erekai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Been through the top 25 or so comments, didn't see any about smoking.
Is he still a smoker? I get that presidential stress can probably make you age terribly, but... so does sucking down cancer sticks.
pile_of_tacos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whoa what a change
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My old man used to talk about this effect on presidents. Sometimes I wonder if it's just the fact that 7 or 8 years have passed, not some kind of stress transformation.
GothDemon97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can see the life being sucked out of him
Im_Being_Followed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can someone do a Michelle Obama side by side?
geniusstorm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From a Red Colored Tie to a Sad Colored Tie
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what happens when you give your soul to Satan.
/sarcasm
DrSuviel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one who thinks he actually looks better now than when he started? Maybe it's because he's become aged and world-weary these past 8 years, and so have I.
dragon_commander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The ring of power has drained him
piux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So lizard people replaced obama.
bitterjack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His speech was really optimistic yesterday. I think he was more stressed at the beginning of his presidency.
Conicoid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We might want to cut it back to one term maximum. Being president looks like it adds 20 years.
crazayfinguz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His eyebrows grew!
grenwall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, even his tie got tired of it.
lexisasuperhero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When 7/8 years looks like 20.
CombTheDessert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he switched to his left hand..
SuperiorRevenger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His hair is white.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he doesn't look bad for a man in his mid 50's
thebutler93 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, right? People say the stress and everything ages you faster, but it's been 8 years. That's damn near a decade. You try looking the same after that much time has passed!
masteroftasks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his suit got grayer.
harrybush-20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's because of the secrets. He now knows all the secrets
AstroVanOG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like presidency has similar effects to meth on the physical appearance...
DafuqStonr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie has had enough and greyed.
Jojowhoa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's seen some shit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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skyraiser9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen about 6 ppl post this same post, what does it mean?
Jakers2050 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Proof that the leading killer in this word is stress.
nmarkham96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie looks tired.
gagreel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, he's older but I'd argue the newer photo is sharper so you see more detail
Etobocoke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
7 years for a man his age, yep you change a lot
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know it's been 8 years but damn.
Zman93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn he's aged badly. but then again all the presidents do.
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SystemError69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like he swapped ties with the guy behind him
BoonesFarmGrape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tbf that first pic is incredibly soft; check where his collar meets his neck in both pics
geelian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like he became left handed. Cool
si828 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn O man looks tired!
RangoFett2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, what a difference 8 years makes.
wheresripp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is how I feel when I look in the mirror. Before kids / After kids
Gescean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His tie even lost color
DatAEK971 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Darth Sidious also transformed....
MakeThemWatch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone should do one of those AI age detection things on these images to see how much they say he has aged.
Isolatte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine 2-3 hours of sleep per night and whatever drugs they secretly give to presidents to make them look like they're wide awake 15 minutes after getting out of bed, can take a toll on a body.
d_marmalade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He changed his tie!
padf0ot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently you also change your dominant hand.
AndRuK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, even his necktie went gray..
Paytron5000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He really likes the sepia filter
assassbaby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
its 8 years period...stress, healthy or unhealthy lifestyle choices like smoking, excessive drinking, drugs, lack of sleep all play a factor. but he looks like day one "Ready to take on the world", day 2920 "Aint nobody got time for this shit".
Br4586 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DAMN!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so a new tie?
ndixon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow.... Same Haircut. Dedication
mainrift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Request! Please!!
Can someone please do a photo shop of what the people running for president would look like in the same split screen before and after. Hilary, Bernie, and Trump. Should be funny....
musicinpress ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
is there the same for G. W. Bush? Wasnt there a report that he did his presidency on a 9-5 schedule?
xpt1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually he got to the office early each morning. http://www.businessinsider.com/successful-early-risers-2012-1#former-presidents-george-hw-bush-and-george-w-bush-21
raoulduke212 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently he also went from being right-handed to left-handed.
IAmFrosty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what being a president does to you.
Browncow8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He filled his binder in the last 7 years. Filled with women?
chopper-richard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like the damn Cryptkeeper compared to the first pic!
SAGNUTZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his suit looks faded...
SlySychoGamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Politics, not even once.
Frogole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
request AMA Obama where yo wrinkle come from cuz ?
Skyhighgreen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like him and the guy behind him switched ties
tux68 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His tie aged too. Became more conservative in its old age.
ragingprostate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama Jr. thought he could handle the Presidency, but he was mistaken. In the same way that Daddy swooped in and took over the payments on his 2006 Chevy Malibu when he proved to be too irresponsible to make his car payment on time, so too did Daddy swoop and and take over the remaining terms of Obama Jr.'s Presidency.
xiiliea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So 8 years ago he was right-handed and now he becomes left-handed.
BlueStreaker11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The picture is not correct as that is not the same tie that President Barack Obama wore during his first State of the Union. ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not the gray hair or wrinkles, its his exhausted look.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's it I'm getting botox once I turn 40, better start saving now
quinnsdad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency. Not. Even. Once.
squirrelbabys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn.
nMaibO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
pls vote Trump. I wanna see the timeskip.
mgkbull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency, not even once
mapmydata ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck this shit o'clock.
TheRightAge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So young and full of life little Obama was...
ImCyris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it has been 8 years...
MrTien ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The mic has also gotten grayer
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even the tie lost color
erwright2009 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I see, he's holding up different fingers
masek91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama like 'last time I have to stand here for an hour" lol.
judsonzhao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The skin of first one has been seriously retouched, or due to lousy pixels
steve9420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man drugs and alcohol sure do take a toll on the body...
GandalfSwagOff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't his ring supposed to be on his left hand?
bradenlikestoreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least his resolution improved
marioismissing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn the grey even crept down his tie.
sparta_reddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Obama!
supersaiyansally ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree he does look old, but it has been 8 years and anyone is gunna age some in 8 years regardless if they the prez or not
XIII1987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing happened to Tony Blair, being a world leader apparently (Former Uk Prime Minister)
trollu4life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dam he aged
wearto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like the Monsters Inc. Soul/Scream vacuum got him...
CiOTI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any interesting conspiracy suggestions?
outlaw686 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like he got older and wiser.
IYAOYAS1922 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I noticed it in his wedding band, hair, and his wife.
A_Booger_In_The_Hand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how many of those pins he's gone thru..?
hhhnnnnnggggggg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't want to be president.
e5c4p3artist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He became left-handed too.
Unsurprised ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency. Not even once.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can we see a picture of John McCain over the same time period?
SammieCooker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Young Obama looks like he's old Obama's son
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Dragonfly42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would not want to be President.
ChewyIsThatU ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Access to the top secret time portal has its consequences.
sithknight1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/FCIVFI9.png
solisu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was still smoking cigarettes in the first picture, too.
pinotpie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie got tired out
SoundSalad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I think the first picture is of lower quality.
pjdurst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks better than Kennedy at the end of his term
jacksplatt79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh you
stormske91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is largely a function of term length and age at one's first election. Take a look at past presidents. The younger they were when elected the older they look at the end, especially if they served 8+ years.
http://www.boredpanda.com/before-and-after-term-us-presidents/
Dont_Prompt_Me_Bro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If that's how much Obama aged... how much did I age?
deadbiscuit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
311 was an inside job
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One tie, two ties, red tie, blue tie.
MedukaXHomora ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow he got OLD looking.
Paulo_Marques ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quite curious to see the final outcome of these elections...
chempe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's the age... it's definitely the stress that's made the huge difference.
hajahe155 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously one thing he's learned in the past 7 years is that it's better to hold binders with your right hand and jab at the air with your left.
d-nihl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama! What a great dude.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Credit to Time.com.
passivelyaggressiver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude has crazy long fingers. Very soft hands. But a good, firm handshake.
NovelTeaDickJoke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay so we just need to figure out age slowing in the next 30 years before I hit this weird wall of aging. Get to work people. What do I pay you for?
BigSexyPlant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even the microphone ages better than he does
genethedancemachine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stress it's a killer
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being leader of the humans takes its toll once again.
ranoss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thing going left handed with his sky pointing was a good move for him politically.
411inthe412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks murica
letsgetblitzed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it may only be 7 years, but don't forget, that's like 23 in president years.
GodDamnNoGoodNames ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking finally
dracom514 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the microphone grew up, so sweet.
AloversGaming ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama seems like he has regretted being president for a few years now. I'm guessing he can't wait for it to be over.
Wetbung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's left handed now?
SpeedyVT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eight years, I still appearance wise haven't changed much and he goes from 30s to 60s.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see he favors blue ties now
xuxulala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone's not using their retinols. They truly are a game changer when it comes to the signs of aging.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the white house, its sucking the energy out of them.
Dolfan0925 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why anyone would want that job.
KeeganKGB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama is left handed now?!
MatthewMeredith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
CHANGE!
pewpew30172 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg he became left-handed.
SpartanDoubleZero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie is turning gray.
Preidon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn the stress in the ofice is huge.
FrostbyteZero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie aged from stress
Pigs_on_Prozac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only a puppet (albeit a rather grayed and sad looking), puppet in their game
Pigs_on_Prozac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Enjoy America. Ya freaks
mvresh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Obamalai Lama
A_Felt_Pen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure are a lot more pages in the binder now.
17hunter00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it's just age.
VTStig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
President, not even once
the-batmanman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's aged like a President
bsully1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
different guy
Madoff_Hitler420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like he's aged 8 years
TheRealSpaceBoogie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah they always look so young and fresh when they're new
LoganLeeDos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He traded his tie with the guy behind him.
BeInYourSenses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He changed from Right handed to Left handed in 8 years?
Tyrann0saurus_Rex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So... He became left handed?
austuhnn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another one
Luca20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm with Joe Rogan. Maybe after you get sworn in they just show you all the aliens and shit, where all the nukes are, who killed JFK. And this is what it does to you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nigga got old af
Doodsrsly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone made a few too many dark side conversation choices in the knights of the old republic two: the sith lords
radams15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently being president is worse than meth
PlatinumRainbucks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He seemed fired up at first, but at the end of it, he was just blue, :/
jennis007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great, he looks old now. Thanks Obama.
Partyonconnor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, his hands are even pale!
kingdraven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So.. he change his tie
Pseudoname87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yup....that's someone who's been through presidency without a blowjob
mjxii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too many newports
jommabeans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus the difference looks like the difference between obi wan kenobi in episode 1 and yoda in episode 6
Gaaarm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone needs to expell Saruman.
xxgsr02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency is a hell of a drug.
ItsAnAgent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He became a lefty over eight long years
bennggg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My god could you imagine if John McCain won in '08 and '12
OswaldWasAFag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/cMXbb3xAcGk
TrillPhil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aged 20 years in 7. Thanks Obama.
dr3d3d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
This just in... Obama only owns one suit(also the U.S. Flag pin is in the same spot and has faded over time)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, a decade makes a difference at that age.
traingeek2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So he changed from a righty to a lefty.
Alright.
newbiethegreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hi guys.
Seriously, what is the expression in English we use to convey the feeling about how time drastically changes us as in this case? Time is a cruel bitch? Or anything else?
No kidding please. Thanks.
Oister40 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe you're thinking of time is a cruel mistress
newbiethegreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:28 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yes, that's it. Thank you. It seems that "Time is cruel" or "Time is a cruel thing" is also often used for this situation, though yours is the best.
What's the name of the rhetorical device which has two usually antagonistic words placed together like your "cruel mistress" and also "living history"? ...moron?
FallenAngelII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Either the 2nd pic has a weird filter on it or his skin has aged terribly.
N3KR3P0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks more black.....and wrinkled.
alias_impossible ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We demanded his youth... And we got it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Optimistic/Defeated
dan42183 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like he never sees the sun anymore, he'll probably look slightly younger again in 2017-18, or at least less stressed. Bill Clinton and George Bush both looked younger a few years after being president again.
CensoredBlonde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like someone turned his saturation down.
OswaldWasAFag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's transmogrifying into my grandfather.
josher14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sucked the life right out of that tie
ifvcu44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JUST
theminasian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kept his hair though. What else can you ask for at that age.
I_just_pooted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smoking is bad
Sarahsays1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually think he's aged pretty well. So he has gray hair, every president gets it...for 8 yrs older, though, not bad!
petiteluciole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: the rage of the right against their mythical version of Obama
xUnderoath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This guy has seen some shit
gofiguree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it a requirement to let your hair go gray while in office??
misspussy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its a tough job running the country.
SCkMusic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like Agent K from MIB3
Except black
balesuarez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black doth crack
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JUST
ThatBelligerentSloth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black may not crack but it certainly does bend.
killroytheloser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If he wins, Bernie Sanders is gonna look like a Ringwraith.
pFunkdrag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is the look of a broken man. Same as me before and after my ex.
Fixner_Blount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, we get it already. Besides always using the least favorable photos for the "after," we also need to remember he's been President for EIGHT YEARS. People tend to age in age years.
billwashere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well shit. I just turned 45 and I don't look too terribly old. I guess it's all downhill from here.
Casteway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie turned gray. Grey? No, gray. Definitely gray.
HughJanos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like his own dad.
JubilantSarcasm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His finger is still on point!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama is real, man. He could dye that hair, but he doesn't.
ijsoisadj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he's just dying his hair and wearing less make up. gotta look the part
Figher0fTheFoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When the Reptilians made their copy of him they didn't get it quite right.
majesticjell0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make up is a helluva drug
OverlyAverageJoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So this is the change he promised...
Sete_Sois ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he's so fucking tired of this shit
Pacattack57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like he's seen some shit
nero_djin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shock!
It is an impostor! It must be, just look at how he changed his main hand and aged like that.
I wonder what his birth certificate says about whether he is right or left handed.
What a great time to be alive, folks!
chapmouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember there being an AskReddit thread asking something along the lines of "What job would you NEVER do?" and someone said POTUS because of how much Obama has aged during his presidency.
insrtfunnysnhear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And Michelle still looks the same!
scythianmofo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Either he aged or stress from the presidency hit him hard.
LetMeStopURightThere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Morgan Freeman over about the same time span
snipingpig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hes burnout, done, scared, there is no relief from what he has seen.
nyr21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What I find to be really interesting, but coincidental, is that his right arm is up in a photo with him wearing a red tie, and his left arm is up when wearing a blue tie.
dublbagn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
damn, I hope this is shopped. Looks like a succubus was part of that 8 years.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, what the fuck happened to him?
Forget the lizard conspiracies, we should be hunting vampires in the white house.
chooglin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OBAMA SAID WHAT IT DO?
ohmygucciness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
seeing those aliens at Area 51 fucked him up
FreudReincarnated ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The switch of hands is very intriguing.
Luriker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, he changed his tie.
SouRzCSGO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that the same badge in both photos?
It's either really run down, as if he wore it almost every day, or someone has applied some sort of lighting effect to make Obama appear more pale. Would probably help show how he has aged... or made it look worse than it is in reality.
Snapped_Calcium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He became left handed?
FuzGuy433 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this just in people age
Storpeedo2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bet Obama hates looking at these posts
MT_Flesch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
always knew the Office was a soul-leeching job
zachin2036 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When hope turns to disappointment.
MMSGrunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
even his tie looks faded.
Vladimilskij ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oldbama
TotalMadness1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get ready for all the "Ew Obama! Can't wait for him to be gone!" Comments
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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ipokecows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It totally is.... if not wheres the picture picture from if i might ask? Most presidents seem to age quicker while in office so why not Obama?
Cr0n0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For the Canadians: Harper before and After now sure it was more like 9 years...
ipokecows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The face looks about the same though, he was just dying his hair before otherwise he just went grey hella fast
RobberDucky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, some rogue Jedi must have reflected the force lighting back onto him.
ickykarma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Switches tie from red to blue.
Dude in background does the complete opposite.
MorningStarshine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'Look how old you've become.'
Grosskumtor92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I guess black can crack"
Seccedonien ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie got the life sucked out of it.
Askezza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did he get bigger?
EwwieImp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It took him a long time to switch hands
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone done a before, after, then 8 years after that to see if they look better or it was just natural progression? I mean I looked totally different at 8 than I did at 16. And at 30 I look considerably different than 22.
revnasty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years will do that to someone.
lordymosh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his hands have gotten old as fuck.
MatrixPA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am wondering what he plans to do after the presidency.
throwaway10506 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
America aged the guy quickly
RyanABWard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency, not even once!
Kite- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a "then and now" picture.of President Putin?
artast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:39 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/putin-time-traveller-640x350.jpg
BigBoyBirdShit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/sites/default/files/images/a_story_images/vladimir-putin_416x416.jpg
wheelchairman91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency: not even once.
RisingWaterline ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Noticeable difference in camera quality, as well.
questoner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine if Bernie Sanders wins.
chrisbravo24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's been kissed by dementors.
Teachmevee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years in American politics will do that to you.
hunkhamza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 25 and I like it though.
AnomalyNexus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
+20% lift from ears
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One grey hair for everytime someone said thanks Obama.
jay_emdee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I guess Black do crack. Love you, Barry.
Javid27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie has gone gray!
u_funky_bitch_u ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like black does crack, AYYYOOOO!
vynmarius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man got so tired he had to swap hands
achievingdreams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Held on to fifty as long as he could
Hope and change arrived with great care
Hang around and keep mentoring he should
Price paid with touches of grey hair
WadeWilsonsThoughts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then wtf is going to happen to Bernie?
Mr_Degroot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:52 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Berine today ---> Grave stone?
Ursus-shock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:59 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
meth
inthebrilliantblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:45 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It looks like in his last one he just goes "sick of you, sick of you, you motherfucker im really sick of..."
4realthistime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:33 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
black does crack...
KingLeonidasW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:27 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
M'President
uber_noober_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:16 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He used to be right. Now he's left.
Bored_Office_Girl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:43 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
even his fingers look sad. =(
gripto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:18 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure that most Presidents are dying their hair color when they run for office, to get the most appeal.
Once they're elected, the stylists start letting the grey show to give their client that wise look.
Catssonova ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:09 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And people want to be president WOW
me-Claudius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:15 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And he thinks, he has turned gray !
BigBoyBirdShit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:55 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you know what happened at area 51 and who really did 9/11 but you can't tell anybody.
Giga-Scrub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:35 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie is gray.
Slyons89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:31 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his finger is wrinkled. I always wonder if presidents frequently use large quantities of amphetamines like Aderall in stints of high pressure, for the greater good. Doctor prescribed, of course. The job must be so demanding.
1mca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:26 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't think that his look wasn't and isn't completely intentional.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:57 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years will do that to anyone
1mca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:58 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agree'd as well. Either way it's a pointless argument
signbythex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:54 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cortisol is a hell of a drug
EX1ST ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:20 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Microphones didnt evolve much ...
awanderingsoul87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:36 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn the man looks tired. Will you even make it to next year sir?
acm2033 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:15 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still able to run for office...... and then done running for office.
Basdad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:59 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hope to despair.
grilledcheeseburger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:34 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stress has made him left-handed?
yellowm3w18s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:03 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what playing too much gold will do to ya
SocketLauncher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:37 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie looks done with this shit.
ivarlogi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:41 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I turning 30 this year i'm starting to say Oh Shit ! when i look in the mirror
Randomstuffonreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:10 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess black do crack.
hahncholo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:18 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, even his tie went grey.
Fullmoonlater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:20 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder what will hillary look like after?
Sutex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:31:46 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh god, that mental picture of that horror.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:30 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
meth. not even once.
newtoday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:56 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so.. 8 years to become a sith lord.
useliteski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:40 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the binder in the first picture looks empty haha "Dare me to just wing it Michelle? I won't even write a speech"
Dragon2635 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:48 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He turned more depressing
GooseVersusRobot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:55 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie is fading
stinknus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:59 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being President not even once
SirSchneids ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:29 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the first picture, he just got done campaigning. They probably spent a decent amount of time and money making him look young and handsome (especially because he was marketed as a fresh alternative to the old white farts who'd previously held the position). After re-election, there's no need to keep up appearances.
indridcold137 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:53 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ObamaCancerConspiracy
indridcold137 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:38 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
today I learned that the hashtag makes stuff bold on reddit
ns2004uk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:42 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too much time in the sun golfing has really done a number on him.
Miss_Forgiver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:50 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His ears look bigger.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:33 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at the difference between binders in the photos. Looks like there was a lot more to address this time around lol
theREALboogeyman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:05 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like shit.
Jabez89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:58 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his tie has gone grey
M1racleWh1p ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:36 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lineups, no matter how grey your hair gets, no matter how much you age, should always be fricka-fresh!
RizziUSA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:52 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap. You can tell someone's a liar when they switch dominate hands... Wake up you fools!
Mighty_thor_confused ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:29 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey look he switched hands to pint with and as a bonus changed ties.
DrRubButtWink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:32 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He almost looks like Gilbert Godfrey in the second one.
supertexas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:03 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god.
8 years just sucked the life out of that tie!
Fumblerful- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:07 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Congrats on this pic being on Comedy Central!
Calcularius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:01 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is normal late-40's into early-50's ageing everyone.
CALM THE FUCK DOWN
PercipienceSought ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:01:24 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it? He looks like shit.
wenzor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:38 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black be crack'n!
ofortuna_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:31 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, even his tie got gray
mochalotivo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:54 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Note: his hairline is still pristine
birdman12468 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:42 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being president switches you from right handed to left handed
Naum_Shinrikyo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:36 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Waiting for the waiter
what_a_knob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:02:07 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's also now left handed, he's been switched r/conspiracy
vegetaban ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:35:36 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He dyed his hair during his first election.
n0tr0ll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:11 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like Palpatine.
edjamesking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:01:44 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A fairer "before" picture: http://imgur.com/PYwkXrR
AkAdude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:03:41 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't he a smoker though?
bh1136 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:13 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, the first image is so low def...
nuknoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:25 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His brows got bushier?
shayben ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:41 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, he became left-handed!
misterwizzard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:43 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do normal people look like if you do a 7 year before and after?
Adogg9111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:07 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smoker on the Left, Non smoker on the right. Not a good ad for QUITNOW.
Esmeraldem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:08 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd imagine I'd look worn out, too. Hell, knowing that you're leading this corrupt ass government can't be easy.
JonasEsme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:57 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always feel so bad seeing this happen to a president whether or not I like them. The stress of the job really takes its toll on them.
TheResidents ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:17 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The government is a hell of a drug.....
BiggsFaleur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:40 on January 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years will do that to a player.
DNAtaurine ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 14:02:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It will be interesting to see the same comparison for Bernie Sanders.
FLGulf ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 14:14:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
After one year, he will look like Gollum covered in baked beans.
Edit: thank you for the gold!
Ginkgopsida ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:22:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/17/Grima_and_Th%C3%A9oden.jpg
TheSecondApocalypse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Why... should I welcome you... Barack Stormcrow?"
"A just question, Congressman!"
jkostry ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 14:05:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It will or it would? Pretty sure we haven't made it to the primaries yet.
DNAtaurine ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 14:07:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just being optimistic.
grimstal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:14:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was your first mistake.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah. We should elect Trump, if only to see what would happen to him.
Indetermination ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i'm pretty sure that is how you become a lich
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean probably like http://m.imgur.com/i3LzQiL
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 14:27:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reagan went senile after 2 years.
CaptSmallShlong ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:18:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I recently read about his Bitburg visit...wow did he gain a few points in my book.
TheSecondApocalypse ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:02:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reagan was senile going in.
beernsleep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. I guess killing a bunch of civilians and children really does age you.
Blortuston ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:09:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And American soldiers. Escalating American troop strength in Afghanistan from 32,000 to 100,000 for a year and a half was a brilliant idea. . . for me to poop on!
beernsleep ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:11:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That too, of course. Man, he worked hard for that peace prize.
adam_demamps_wingman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except the draw down from Iraq (which Bush agreed to with Iraqi leadership) and the surge in Afghanistan were points Obama ran on. They were part of the promises he made the American people.
He kept his promises when he was able to.
Fen1kz ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, your guess is wrong. 7 years - that's what ages you :D
beernsleep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, man. Not like that.
Jaywearspants ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:02:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I gotta say - I'm proud to have voted for him (twice.) Sure he's been controversial, and didn't come through on some promises - but he's also had to deal with one of the most hostile congresses in the history of this country. I'm a proud Obama supporter and I just hope President Sanders is equally as awesome (spoiler alert, he already is.)
dontaxmebro ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:17:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He has to deal with a hostile congress because he is not a Uniter. His language and rhetoric are divisive. He's never been a real leader for this country. Most people see him as a leftwing pundit who serves his ideology before thenAMERICAN PEOPLE. His approval rating is so low, it's almost at the carter level. Even the president that he used as a scapegoat for all his problems had higher approval rating than him.
Balthalzarzo ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can't lead mindless sheep anyway.
registered2LOLatU ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:14:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie Sanders lol
Jaywearspants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah - the only choice.
registered2LOLatU ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
liberals are so cute.
Jaywearspants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thanks, babe<3
BenOfMahogany ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 15:12:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Destroying a nation really takes it's toll
mintsponge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This just in: man looks older after 8 years
Uranus_Hz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years of working 20 hours a day. 7 days a week.
DoubleDickDude ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:53:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, who are we talking about working 8 years, 20 hours a day, 7 days a week? Not this man for sure.
Uranus_Hz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
POTUS is a 24/7 job. Even their 'vacations' are largely spent working. Don't bring your political bias into it.
DoubleDickDude ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:38 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd venture to say your bias was showing by accusing my statement of having any. I find playing golf, visiting Martha's Vineyard etc, for any president hardly classifying as work.
Uranus_Hz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:46:23 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Except that they have an entire office and staff with them at all times.
Presidential vacation myths
remast86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. Black does crack. Who knew?
thegr8rambino13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe if he just followed the constitution and not caved to corporations, his socialistic tendencies or special interests he wouldn't be so gray
GuntherCloneC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So...if I'm understanding this correctly, Bernie Sanders will look like this, this, or this when he's done in office?
MrM0rningw00d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keeping secrets
ecipch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, it's stressful being threatened and told what to do against your will for this many years. Not surprised.
jparr02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
proof that the office and the job and dealing with right wing hacknuts ages you...
AngryCotton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine what Trump would look like 8 years after being elected. : 0
JaydeRaven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AH! That is terrifying on so many levels.
mmiller1188 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or Hillary ...
MaddenMan73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine what Bernie would look like lol.
gbs5009 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine his hair would go through a Pokรฉmon-esque series of increasingly elaborate evolutions.
Mmmagoo007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Golf wears on a man.
misanthrowp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rotten, treasonous bastard!!!!
Dragury ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
left: senator palpatine right: Emperor
rangamatchstick ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:25:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
eqleriq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even his flag faded! Not like they color graded the one on the right to look more depressing or anything!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking same
turtletug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jeez imagine what will happen to Sanders if he becomes the next President. I mean, It will probably kill him. He already looks old. 4 years of Presidency and he will probably look ancient, of he even makes it.
dogmob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Finally, Obama delivers on promise of change
Gandalf32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so glad he's done.
MagicalGoldfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he was 46 when he went in and 54 now. that's what happens when you get older. You get grey hair.
McGirton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Puppet-life sure is hard.
Schmitty300 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Running a shit show like that place would give you grey hairs too :S
hex_rx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is what will happens when you dance with the devil.
TrueVibes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After almost a decade of being a leading representative of the human race
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presidency, not even once.
BoilerMaker11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/s0zqtlg.jpg
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I see the top 10 root comments are about his looks or similar jokes. Haven't found a single comment about the hugely exaggerated figures that were used in the speech. Well done reddit.
Its_Lloyd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shows what the GOP will do to a normal person when given the chance.
Toast_Chee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously the hard work of dismantling America in the name of radical Islamic socialism has taken its toll. /s
skullruk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WOW, Amazing what just 70,000 days will do to you.
azureless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So being president makes you older and left handed?
restless_corpse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He got whiter. Go figure.
G_Andretti ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still disliked by most white people. Go figure
ApocolypseCow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like he is still smoking those newports.
ufobrian1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
all that golf will age a man.
chasmccl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It turns out that black does indeed crack...
cdot2k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at the growth in head size. Tell me he's not on PEDs.
Squidler31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His mug makes me ill.
WolfWebster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yall done stressed that nigga the hell out.
mvinformant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever I see him, I have one thought: Thank you, Mr. President.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As do I!
dpessing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a tired man
1E____E1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
To be fair, the pictures are slightly misleading. Look at the colors of flag on his suit. Much brighter and vivid on the left than on the right.
I'm suspecting the coloring might have been tampered with to make him look even more aged on the right one.
Diegobyte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man ages 8 years in 8 years.
tiyoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:00 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stress is a killer. Quickest way to age fast is becoming President of the United States. Imagine what it will do to Bernie
yamakiriroronoa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The evil has slowly but strongly corrupted him....Maybe like Palpatine m(while Putin looks younger and younger)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thats what turning to the dark side does to you.
Tayngo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:12 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's Darth Sidious.
shelisbae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://imgur.com/1tHmlE6 JFK after. [NSFW]
kaydpea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
omg he's like so gray better upvote cause so gray.
FatalFury624 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's also a smoker, don't forget
Mother_Prussia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
cocaine is a hell of a drug
papiavagina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a really interesting poll would be asking end of term presidents what they'd tell themselves as beginning term presidents...
LtPatterson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks a lot like this country does.
sw1ff2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i hate college democratic adderall reddit sometimes :)
DatAEK971 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being a Hypocrite and Chief is taxing it would seem.
HalfandHoff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some say Obama was a terrible president, but I thought he was ok, some also say that he reminded them of Hitler, I'm like dude chill
thezim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's been nearly 8 years at what I think that would be the most stressful job in the world, so I'm not surprised.
B1gTuna21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trying to ruin a country will do that to you
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being a disappointment for 8 years takes its toll
dontaxmebro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the pic of US navy surrendering to the Iranian Navy is really reflective of his presidency. Also the liberal circle jerk surrounding the removal of Arak core, which later proven to be false, indicates the desperation of his followers.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35302628
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3397254/Pictured-Ten-U-S-sailors-captured-Iran-Revolutionary-Guard-RELEASES-snooping-row-naval-incursion.html
Reapercore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"America, I've had enough of your shit."
_TheKingJulian_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what eight years of running the most bitchin' badass country in the world will do to you.
heyjohnnyjohnny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Added to OPs great post. See http://imgur.com/B3SLFWh
aelric22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Republicans blamed Obama for everything bad. I think Obama has the absolute right to pin his gray hairs as their doing.
Sessamy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess his job is very stressful.
Leading the best country in the world takes it out of you after a while.
Blortuston ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:03:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
President Putin leads the best country in the world. He's nine years older than Obama and looks 15 years younger.
Sessamy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's an 'ex' KGB agent. Putin may be stronger and more open than obama, although he may just be more healthy.
Baba_OReilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what golf does to you.
bginger84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:16 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good living does well. My father is 60 as of a few days ago and still looks younger than him and worked his but off his entire life. Genetics also
B0NESAWisRRREADY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:36 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, not being president.
Ninjaplz10154 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:59 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice try, but you can see this was faked using makeup because he's wearing the same ring in both pictures
-Bashamo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:36 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
karmaconspiracy
chambertlo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:10 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black does, in fact, crack. Who knew? Oh wait, he is half white. Moving on.
jagwall1971 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 15:58:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank God, no more State of the Unions from this idiot.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:03:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
.. Says the Trump supporter who has an affinity for idiocy.
jagwall1971 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:38 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Feel the Bern!! Right you leech
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:01 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had no idea leeches made 6 figures. Whoda thunk it?
jagwall1971 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:36 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, guess what, so do Trump supporters who are idiots.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:01 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's nice, never met a self professed leech before.
Idiocy confirmed.
jagwall1971 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:30 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's one for ya. Go fuck yourself.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:11 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
That's the best you can come up with? I should have expected as much from a troglodyte such as yourself, lacking the wherewithal of thought that you do.. But I was hoping you would surprise me. I was wrong about you, you are no idiot. Idiocy is something you should work on, and one day you could possibly raise to the level of "blithering idiot", "innane dunce", or "advanced moron". Keep trying, dream big.. One day you will get there.
jagwall1971 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:36 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ouch, those words hurt. You found them in a thesaurus didn't you? Come on, tell the truth.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not surprised you would expect (and need) a thesaurus to come up with half of those words.
jagwall1971 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:54 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're a complete fucking idiot. The more you message me, the dumber you portray yourself. Please stop before you make yourself look more foolish than you already have. Go get some pussy and relax, or in your case, some dick.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:08 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't need a piece of ass at the moment, I have been making you my bitch for days.
jagwall1971 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:41 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HA!! Please, if this is what you call making someone your bitch, you have to get out more. You've lead a structured life living in your moms basement.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:51 on January 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When someone can only come up with "get some dick" and "you live with your mom" as witty jabs, isn't it obvious? You have no skill for the barb my friend, either that or you are mentally challenged. I do sincerely apologize if you are handicapped though. Don't want to make it seem like I get a kick out of picking on the less fortunate. Feel free to return to licking the window, or whatever it is you do to occupy your time between coloring sessions & eating paste.
jagwall1971 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:26 on January 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's always a pleasure to read one of your replies. It makes me laugh when you think I'm brainless and mundane. Take care, I hope you get pleasure thinking you're smarter than me. Not sure why it matters, I can go on for days and days if you want. The fact is, you're boring and uninteresting. So go on and lead your lonely, useless life. I hope you find happiness instead of contemplating suicide on a daily basis. Just remember, when you're taking a bunch of pills or choking on a pistol because you can't just find the gusto to live anymore, I'll be wishing you made the right decision.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:29:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lying is exhausting.
BitcoinPatriot ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 15:52:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What I think is a shame is we broke an incredible milestone by electing our first black president but yet our first black president turned out to be an incredible failure.
I find this sad as he has probably hurt the chances of the next black man who DOES happen to be qualified from being elected. Obama has pushed back the progress of race relations by decades.
its_a_clump_of_cells ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:08:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, the 30%-40% of Republicans who are racist have pushed back race relations by decades such as the racist, Republican, New Hampshire police commissioner who called Obama a n_gger
BitcoinPatriot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that response comes from a racist....................
its_a_clump_of_cells ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:11:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, that was my point.
hikingmutherfucker ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:14:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Wow. Not sure what it would take to be successful if you consider how much of his agenda whether or not you agree with it he actually got done.
Agenda he got passed during his term:
Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility and Disclosure (CARD) Act
FDA Food Safety Modernization Act
During recovery extended unemployment insurance and cut payroll taxes
Initiated a $15 billion plan designed to encourage increased lending to small businesses.
Affordable Care Act
Weak and I know pretty much symbolic Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act giving the federal government more tools to investigate and prosecute fraud of the financial system
Weak and symbolic but best congress could pass at the time Doddย-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act in 2010
Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
Bailing out and in reality possibly saving the US Auto Industry
Student Loan Reform
Middle Class Tax Breaks as part of the Recovery Act
Lifted restrictions on embryonic stem cell research
Took out Don't Ask Don't Tell - gays open in military
But wait everything sucks right in the economy? Hold on.
Dow Jones is over 16,000
Unemployment under 6%
GDP Growth 3.5%
Deficit GDP 2.8%
Consumer Confidence 94.5
From when he took office under crisis during Great Recession
Dow Jones 7,949
Unemployment 7.8%
GDP Growth -5.4%
Deficit GDP % 9.8
Consumer Confidence 37.7
BitcoinPatriot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1) Borrowed nearly $10 trillion with nothing to show for it 2) Economy so weak for 7 years that it took borrowing $10 trillion AND zero interest rates just to keep the economy from collapsing 3) Lowest labor participation rate in about 40 years 4) Record part time jobs replacing full time jobs due to the failure of Obamacare 5) Most companies closing and LEAVING the U.S. due to increased taxes. 6) Record numbers in poverty and on food stamps. 7) Highest percentage of unemployed workers 6 months or more since the Great Depression 8) Median incomes FALLING (the FIRST time that has ever happened over the course of a presidential term) 9) Domestic policies failed leading to nearly 100 million of working age not working 10) Foreign policy failures all over the globe 11) Failed policies where our allies don't trust us and our enemies do not fear us.
hikingmutherfucker ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:26:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1) The Bailout Scorecard
https://projects.propublica.org/bailout/
Last update: Jan. 11, 2016
Altogether, accounting for both the TARP and the Fannie and Freddie bailout, $618B has gone out the doorโinvested, loaned, or paid outโwhile $390B has been returned.
The Treasury has been earning a return on most of the money invested or loaned. So far, it has earned $294B. When those revenues are taken into account, the government has realized a $65.4B profit as of Jan. 11, 2016.
2) Economy so weak?
"The graph above compares annualized quarter-over-quarter GDP (gross domestic product) growth in the US, Japan, and the Eurozone over the last four quarters.
Last year, the US (IVV) was the only bright spot among developed markets (EFA). Its GDP grew at an annualized rate of 4.6% in 2Q14, 5% in 3Q14, and 2.2% in 4Q14.
Meanwhile, the Japanese (EWJ) and European economies (IEV) were grappling with recessionary pressures early last year. The annualized growth rate in Japan was -7.4% in 2Q14, -2.4% in 3Q14, and 1.6% in 4Q14. The negative growth in the second quarter was mainly due to the hike in its consumption tax, from 5% to 8%. In 1Q15, however, Japanโs GDP grew at an annualized rate of 4%. During the same quarter, US GDP grew by a meager 0.2%, although in fairness, this figure was affected by temporary factors.
The European economy has seen tepid growth rates since the financial crisis. Nevertheless, it has been showing signs of recovery over the last few months. The Eurozoneโs annualized GDP growth rates were 0.4%, 0.8%, 1.2%, and 1.2% over the last four quarters, respectively.
While the Japanese and the European economies seem to be improving, the US economy still seems to be in a better position than the rest."
http://marketrealist.com/2015/07/us-economy-relatively-strong/
3) This is a worrying trend.
"What does it all mean? The fact that a majority of labor force opt-outs are students or retirees from high-income households suggests that the recession wrought less damage to the U.S. workforce than was initially feared. Those people will either go back to work or would have left the labor force anyway. Still, the growing number of disabled workers indicates that the recession did inflict some permanent damage to the American labor force, and this could take years to repair. "
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-19/why-labor-force-participation-is-still-so-low
Is that Obama's fault in particular? I don't think so.
5) Closing and leaving due to increased taxes?
US effective corporate tax rate is 12.6% while at the same time having one of the highest corporate tax rates of any other industrialized nation. 39.2% if you take state taxes into consideration and 35% otherwise.
However, outside of tax hikes related to the affordable care act I do not see where any major additions to the corporate tax structure have been effectively passed despite a lot of talk about closing corporate tax loopholes especially those involved with keeping corporate money overseas.
6) the number of people on food stamps and in need for federal assistance is a failure for administration and I totally agree with that as well as ..
7) Highest percentage of unemployed workers 6 months or more since the Great Depression but you have to look at the long-term unemployed closer to see who has truly given up and who have effectively retired out of the system see point 3)
8) I agree with this but increased not decreased spending according to many sources would have helped this more investment in businesses and infrastructure take this source as an example.
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Elaine Kamarck | March 6, 2015 11:45am
Household income growth under four American presidents Economic Mobility Income Distribution U.S. Government U.S. Politics U.S. President Barack Obama (C) is joined by former U.S. Presidents George W. Bush (L) and Bill Clinton (R) in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington while speaking about disaster aid to Haiti, January 16, 2010. The conventional wisdom about the American economy is that, in spite of the recovery, middle-class Americans are still hurting. Moreover, the conventional wisdom is that the decline in middle-class fortunes has been going on for decades. But a new Brookings paper from the economist Rob Shapiro upends the conventional wisdom, offering a more accurate look into whatโs been happening to Americans and their pocketbooks.
Shapiro does this by taking advantage of new Census Bureau statistics which report household income by age. There are significant advantages to looking at earnings by age instead of in the aggregate. For instance, the conventional measure of aggregate median income covers all households from the teen years to 64. So it captures millions of people who are still in school and millions who are partially or totally retired. The measure is, as Shapiro points out, a messy one, which changes over time thus making it hard to see whatโs really going on.
The advantage of looking at income by age cohorts is that, as we all know, incomes rise as we age and get more education and experience and then they tend to level off or decrease as we get older. And so, looking at incomes by age cohort gives us a very different picture than it does when everyone is lumped together. For instance, as Figure 1 shows, aggregate income from 1975 to the present looks pretty flat. But people who were 25-29 in 1975 experienced pretty healthy gains in their incomes as they aged, as did young people in 1982 and 1991.
Shapiro_Growth in Median Household Income by Age
Shapiro then looks at income growth by age for the past five presidents and finds that the โโฆlargest average annual gains in median household income occurred during the Clinton and Reagan administrations, with a clear edge to Clinton.โ As figure 2 illustrates, young people in the Reagan and Clinton years saw their incomes grow right into middle age. The contrast with the Bush and Obama years is stark. Under those two presidencies income growth is lower for young people, small for those entering middle age and negative for those in the 45-49 year age group. No wonder our recent politics has been so bitter. As William Galston notes in another Brookings paper, โEconomic stagnation means a continuation of gridlocked, zero-sum politics and a turn away from the spirit of generosity that only a people confident of its future can sustain.โ
In other words, this canโt continue.
Shapiro_Annual Growth of Median Household Income
"Shapiro concludes that โour current problems with incomes are neither a long-term feature of the U.S. economy nor merely an after-effect of the 2008-2009 financial upheaval.โ Nor are they driven by โeconomic impediments based on gender, race and ethnicity, or even education.โ He identifies two structural causes; globalization and information technologies. But he also asks us to think about what Reagan and Clinton did that the two presidents of the 21st century did not do. โThe Clinton and Reagan fiscal approaches supported stronger rates of business investment than seen under Bush-2 or Obama. In addition, their support for aggregate demand included public investments to modernize infrastructure, broaden access to education and support basic research and development.โ"
http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/fixgov/posts/2015/03/06-household-income-growth-kamarck
Remember these are all things listed above that Obama proposed but the legislature would not back him on.
9)
See point 3) again.
"So that means the critics of the administration are right, and people are dropping out of the labor force at an unprecedented pace? Not so fast. A lot of the people dropping out of the labor force are just, well, old. Thatโs because the demographic bulge known as the baby boom generation is aging out of the workforce."
http://qz.com/286213/the-chart-obama-haters-love-most-and-the-truth-behind-it/
Does this mean the number of truly discouraged workers are not too high? No, it is too high. And that is a valid criticism.
10) Foreign policy failures like opening up Cuba? The Iran deal which was the best chance we had outside of going to war. Yes, they have been failures especially in how the Arab Spring was handled and Libya yes especially Libya.
11) Wait, military strikes killing 17,000 ISIS personnel so far according to wikipedia this one shocked me btw. Making the call Clinton did not to authorize military to take out Osama Bin Laden. Yes, I hate it too when people act like Obama ran over and shot Bin Laden in the head personally. Increased drone strikes? How many Al-Queada and ISIS leaders have died in strikes during Obama's administration before conservatives understand our enemies do fear us. The money strike just reported yesterday is another great example of that.
Just to add one more link in summary pretty fair on failures and wins:
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/01/obamas-numbers-january-2015-update/
Donkface ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
preach
OverlyCasualVillain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only people who believe this are the ones who don't really understand how the US political system works and just attribute all the problems they see or things they disagree with to the president and calls them failures.
Most republicans don't consider bush Jr. a failure despite loads of shit happening during his term. And comparatively, if Carson ends up primary and wins, many people would consider Obama a success.
If you're honestly the kind of person who believes Obama made specific choices because he is black, rather than because he's a democrat and has a specific set of beliefs, I'm sorry but you really shouldn't vote because you don't understand how it actually works.
WhySheHateMe ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 15:56:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So bascially, Obama made white people prejudiced against future black candidates? No worries though, they will vote white people into office no matter if they are good for the job or not!!
Imago90 ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 15:54:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are u being serious? O.o
harwoodjh ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:14:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whhhhaattttt the hell
FuckYouPlease ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:55:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're type A on the stupid scale. Just straight stupid.
BitcoinPatriot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would expect an incompetent comment like that from somebody completely uninformed.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:01:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't agree with that at all
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 16:08:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Started out a hopeful douchebag. .. left a abysmal mess of a douchebag
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:40:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama is a pussy
alexlayao ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:50:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what is your deal?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama is the worst president we have ever had.
knarknar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:13:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jobs are stressful when you don't know what you are doing.
Wry_Bred ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 15:27:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All that golfing has really taken a toll.
freelance-t ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 14:00:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still more handsome than any of those currently running for the next term.
MaddenMan73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hillary is not a man!
freelance-t ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:11 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Therefore, Obama is more handsome.
thetaprime ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 15:38:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Lying makes you look older. Like smoking.
mineown2020 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:40:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like trolling too!
thetaprime ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:41:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deal with it. If he didn't lie every second word, I wouldn't say things like this.
YoDudeguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:28 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pfff yeah dude....
https://media.giphy.com/media/410MEptz5Xj3y/giphy.gif
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
citation needed.
thetaprime ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:07:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LOL you're looking for proof? Wow. They're right, it isn't just a river in Egypt.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was looking for you to backup your statement
thetaprime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're not any sort of authority for change. Not worth my time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
gotcha dont expect people to listen to what you say if you wont back it when challenged
keyboardbuddhist ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:52:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lying on camera for 8 years can be detrimental to the soul.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He has no soul
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol. Totally. Which is why we have universal health care, guns are banned, religion is banned, and all Republicans have been put to death.
Checkheck ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:20:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
where is the obligatory face swap?
HamiltonFAI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a thing
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:37:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is not something I want to feel sorry for them about> They raise billions o' dollars and fight and lie and grovel for 2 years to get there and then it ages them a little. The good thing is the Franklin mint will have a plate with their picture on it!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:32:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly why I don't think Bernie could make a full 8 years. He will barely make it to 4.
seasond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bernie's been fighting the good fight for decades already.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a bit different being a Senator than being the President.
HITLERS_SEX_PARTY ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the burden of knowing he is in way over his head has aged the poor man 30 years.
liberalsareidiots2 ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 15:18:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what being a liar and a traitor does to you for 7 years.
[deleted] ยท -24 points ยท Posted at 14:06:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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kevie3drinks ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:37:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's that, a little more than twice a month?
how dare he get exercise.
linesinaconversation ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:13:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually over THREE times a month! What a truant!
BTW, Eisenhower played 800 in his eight years, and Wilson, who was president during WWI, played 1200.
potato1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:50:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, everyone knows it's impossible to get any business or negotiating done while playing golf, an activity often undertaken by business executives in order to improve their relationships with clients and get extended blocks of time set aside to negotiate deals.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:30:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FOX News?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:41:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:04:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yes because getting out of the house once or twice a month is insane.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:27:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your source is a right wing rag.
LaLongueCarabine ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 14:38:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, the man played a shit ton of golf. Which I support. The more time he's on the golf course the better.
tcasalert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The more he's on the golf course the less he's fucking up the country. Can't complain.
generalrubbie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, there around about 2555 days in seven years (didn't account for leap years). 250 games of golf is about once every ten days. Sooo much time off.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 19:25:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Equinoqs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Troll.
ltbribrown94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guessing you didn't actually watch him address the nation last night... it's not about whether you like the guy but it IS your patriotic duty to be politically active. Don't reprimand someone and give no actual evidence as to how he's done nothing when last night he gave about 50 examples of the good he's done.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:46:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let me guess, Gun control was one of them. Letting Terrorists into the country AKA Refuges was that one of them also? He has done NOTHING but take from the Middle man (ME) and give to the worthless (You) Ever notice how the more gun control they put in place, the more violent crimes that take place? Hmm. I would rather put a cheese grater to my nuts than listen to that idiot speak about anything.
King_Renzo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Start shaving away with the cheese grater then, because you have about another 372 days of hearing him speak. #DealWithIt> http://www.boredpanda.com/before-and-after-term-us-presidents/
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:28:27 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am starting with the potato mandeline first.
King_Renzo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:17 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whew...you're hardcore; I can respect that haha!
worstpresidentever ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what lying does to you...
mynamenoname ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:21:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Destroying a country for the best interests of your marxist/communist handlers sure takes a toll on one's body.
GandalfSwagOff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wut
TheFoodBro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If Communists hate Socialists, why would they like Obama
PALMghETTO ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pushing the socialist agenda takes the life outta you. Let this be a lesson to our youth.
TikkaTikkaTikka ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being a traitor to the country and Constitution really takes a toll on a man.
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 15:33:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The guy fucked up everything he touched and the entire world will pay a dear price for decades to come. Friggin ASSHAT Obama!
OverlyCasualVillain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:02:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because bush fixed absolutely everything he touched
/s
Why do people insist on believing it's the individual who makes the decisions and has so much power, when really it's the political party the president belongs to. Being president isn't like being a king where you control everything and people do whatever you want
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the hell does Bush have to do with my comment? Bush fucked up plenty by kowtowing to the political establishment. Obama's socialist and narcissistic ideology on top of him kowtowing to the political establishment is getting people killed and sinking the country faster than any other president. Face it, Obama's a loser and smells worse than dog shit!
seasond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Parrot
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:39:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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TheFoodBro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really doubt you can get worse than Warren Harding
Viking_In_Training ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:45:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. Worst huh? Pretty hyperbolic statement ya got there.
ANotSoSeriousGamer ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:42:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still a legend... Just not one anyone would try to be...
DatAEK971 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 18:31:13 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Destroying the constitution, putting 3 million more blacks in poverty, adding another 13 trillion in debt, I guess will do that to you.
GandalfSwagOff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL that people care more about the 2nd Amendment than they do all the others combined.
DatAEK971 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not just 2nd Amendment. He loves suspending habeas corpus and spying and illegal monitoring of US citizens. He loves the Patriot Act and shits all over the constitution.
BlueDrache ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:47:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still the worst president we ever had.
Wolflmg ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:45:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eight years has not been kind to him and he's been a terrible president in all eight of them.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Wolflmg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It sure does. Probably serves him right for all the stuff he has pulled.
az308gtb ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lies obviously age you!
Equinoqs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That explains Mitch McConnell...
TheBigBadPanda ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:52:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To what extent could this be intentional with makeup?
TheFoodBro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most hopeful new [Insert Important Job Here] will actually use makeup or hair dye to appear young, energetic, and ready to get things done; while incumbents will forego that whole thing to show they have experience.
TheBigBadPanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course, just wondering wether they would perhaps even use makeup to make him look older/more experienced for the end of the term.
TheFoodBro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Personally, I have no idea. I am certain he is in the first one. He looks natural to me in the second.
Otter_Actual ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:57:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so a person will look different after 8 years!, SINCE WHEN!!!!
MyOldNameSucked ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:17:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like if he could, he would go back in time to punch his younger self in the face and yell "No you can't!".
Puabond ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:27:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thosenotesthough
Ekrow ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:29:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JUST
padronr ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:29:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like he's eight years older or something
hokie47 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:34:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bush Jr didn't age all that much.
bpr2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The pretzel didn't do a good job.
Pherras ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol not to stressful when you don't make any of the decisions!
velocity219e ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ignorance is bliss.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:42:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Old Man River...."
NuclearStar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:52:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, it is like he has aged 8 years.
sethcarver ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:03:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what, his tie changed, what's the big deal?
sedgvsdva ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:14:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nice photo choice, you still could have made your point that he has aged without using a pic of Obama mid blink, that makes him look tired.
WifehasDID ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:32:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find a picture of anyone at 46 then another picture of them at 54...
Unless they are getting work done or part of that rare genetically gifted, (I'm looking at you Keanu) they have aged like this
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:35:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's been president for like 20 years, right? I mean, that looks like the age gap.
Greellx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:36:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, hard to believe after 8 years that anybody could age.
SpaceTire ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:41:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://cdn1.pri.org/sites/default/files/story/images/ISIS%20hand%20signal.jpg
nerf_herder1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So pointing your index finger upward means you're a terrorist? Holy shit, that means so many people are terrorists!
Tom Brady's a terrorist!
Sarah Palin's a terrorist!
LITERALLY EVERYONE THAT'S WORN ONE OF THESE IS A TERRORIST!
Or you're just a fucking idiot grasping at straws.
SpaceTire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did I strike a nerve a little close to home?
Obama is a secret muslim and he has acheived his goal of Islamifying the West. America isn't has bad as Europe, but Obama will go down in History for moving over 10 million fundie Muslims into Europe/America.
May Allah bless you.
tispoun ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:41:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Full of hope then lost all of it !
TravelingTramp ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:46:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I shudder to think about what Bernie Sanders will look like after 8 years.
Donkface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well don't think about it too hard because he most likely won't be elected.
pazpaz1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:47:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great responsibility comes with great wrinkles
tirmanadir ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:47:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These last 8 years have been tough on the poor fella.
Dylan0812 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:49:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man who is older looks older. Hardly a shock.
teamrunner ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:54:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spoiler alert. People age. Eight years is plenty of time for that occur.
brinnswf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:54:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I looked a good bit younger 8 years ago too.
DarthMisogynist ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:00:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like Pinocchio...except instead of lies growing his nose, each lie greyed a hair.
shadowfoxmi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:01:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
7 years of presidency has turned him into a lefty?
GCEian ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:01:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please. If you dyed his hair and got him in the same pose today (lighting angle and expression), he'd actually look darn close to when he was 46.
maxpower7833 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:05:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Microphones have gotten bigger in 8 years
GoldenJoel ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:15:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of the film Come and See.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:16:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He got so much pussy that they drain him
crd06d ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:21:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah smoking ages you
brazys ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:21:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
see kids, don't smoke cigarettes
myhatzulu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:27:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Part of me thinks that Obama didn't really know what he was getting himself into when running for president or that if he had known that this how he would look like
White hair (age or stress or both)
Eye bags the size of a bulls balls
Face looks like a depressed sheet of sand paper
Might've had more than second thoughts
Drew_bacca ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:40:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bewbs
OnThis ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:45:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like he went from rep to dem (which I know he didn't) because he is wearing a red tie then a blue one. Also the hands he using in each one makes it even better
wolfguardian72 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:46:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn...being the president is rough. I don't think I would have the guts to do what he did so courageously. I love Obama and I thank him for all he's done for the country.
I_Dumped_Adele ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:50:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't young but like 13-14 when he first was running and I remember wanting him to win because I wanted to see how he would age.
phate0451 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:52:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL lying rapidly kills a person emotionally and physically
MaSchulz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:12:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The look of defeat
evilili ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:17:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
don't lie too much, or this will happen to you !
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:21:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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damnatio_memoriae ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally every president elected since the invention of photography has looked older after their term is up. Guess what happens after 4-8 years of stress? You look older. It's not rocket science.
heyjohnnyjohnny ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:22:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://imgur.com/gallery/B3SLFWh for an update. Thanks OP!
robhol ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:24:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In that cartoon (and not a good cartoon) of a political system, I'm surprised his hair isn't completely gray.
whiskey_clit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:24:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Poor Obama.
diamanthunden ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:27:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, 8 years of being president really takes its toll! He has done well.
DonBolasgrandes ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:27:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not an easy thing to have the weight of the free world bearing down on you.
cogentorange ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:27:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the most stressful job on earth.
Wolfir ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:34:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Last one?
Caliph Obama will return for his third term. Believe you me . . .
Rektum801 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:34:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All presidents turn so gray in office. Its wild!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:36:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fixing all of Bushes problems
claytonccollins ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:45:49 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's probably just as hard as being homeless
rileymanrr ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:51:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The presidency would kill Bernie, that's part of the reason that I advocate against him. I don't want to kill a man.
HoffAmazing ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:53:35 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't he have a horrible case of worms during his time?
TXRedBeard ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:54:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The same can be seen in undercover agents in foreign/enemy territory.
anderson-koala ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:59:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The binder really grew fatter.
Chris_TelemusTV ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:00:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
you can see the drugs caught up to him
edit: I guess democraps are just everywhere ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
bento2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:02:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Throw a pic of Michelle from both events. She still looks fabulous.
allyboi101 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:14:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Been going to Atlantis clearly. Had an unfortunate run in with the wreaths.
izzypop112 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:31:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
..and his last one
Thank god.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:34:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you're saying 8 years of time passed, and he's now in his mid 50s and looks older? gasp.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:46:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone will look older if you take a bad picture of them. It's all in the lighting. Look at the first pic, it's been smoothed over to make his skin look better. The second pic was taken when his eyes weren't open all the way, making him look bad. Of course he aged, but most of this is just good photo/bad photo.
kinjinsan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:09:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is true of every President.
ltbribrown94 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:13:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Name one way he's enforced gun control... he hasn't. Congress won't let him. At this time we haven't accepted any refugees. You're just making it more and more clear you really have no idea what you're talking about. Go ahead and be mad over things that aren't even true.
bud299 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:14:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude got large.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:24:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad to know this change happens slightly later in my life than in most. My family has a history of lifespan and I think the aging that people go through around those ages are the cause of their early deaths. Just as an example my great grandmother lived to be 99 and her sister lived to be 102, they were completely independent until death with no real health problems.
Up until my grandmother was about 70 she didn't look much older than 35. When I was 18 and she was 65 people would say things to her like "Your mother is really funny" I would reply "My grandmother" to get the shocked response "But..shes like 35 maybe 40" I would reply "No shes only a few years away from 70"
Just as an example I get carded fucking everywhere I go. I've been accused of not being the person in the photo when I have a beard, and have actually been turned down for alcohol sales WITH ID (which really pissed me off.)
The best part about all of this is I'm going to be functional until I die. The worst part is I'm probably going to out live everyone.
kirbycrazy33 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:28:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know lizards aged...
Robertrmo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:29:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow its like he aged 7-8 years
Jelmddddddddddddd ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:30:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's see what Donald Trump will look like.
butternickles ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:52:39 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It looks like he's been carrying around the One Ring the whole time.
FulgurInteritum ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:09:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama is Osama confirmed. http://www.tldm.org/News5/bin_Laden_finger.jpg
LuciusLucullus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:21:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pure evil will do that to you.
mods_r_bigots ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:24:29 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the world will be a better place.
Sutex ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:31:10 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
those intelligence meetings will really fuck up the average person.
pharsake ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:48:05 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf, I thought black don't crack.
KingNothing13 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:40:15 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obligatory "Presidency - not even once" comment.
LT-Redwings ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:47:31 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Way to go shitfuck. Have a downvote
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:05:25 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
That's not why the debt is so high lol wtf. You literally can't be any more wrong about everything you've said. Every single thing. It's been like shooting fish in a bucket. Honestly, start reading things that matter or go back to school. For your own good. You're going to open your mouth about politics IRL and people are going to double over laughing. I'm saving you some embarrassment.
The entire Iraq war cost 1.7 trillion. Obama has racked up over 18 trillion since getting into office. Just fuck off dude. Go back to school and take some history courses and teach yourself how to look up basic info on Google if you're not sure on something before you say silly shit.
con77 ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 16:11:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
rotting from the inside. sucking satans cock takes a toll
shouttag_mike ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:11:17 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For perspective, here is the state of the union at the first State of the Union Address and then at the last one: https://shouttag.com/api/image/2e046f752528c
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
When Obama first took office we were in the worst economic crisis since the great depression. Today we're in the middle of 70 straight months of job growth, the first time that's happened in decades.
shouttag_mike ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:17:57 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which flavor of kool-aid are you drinking? I'm guessing fruit punch.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:49 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What did I say that is not an objective fact?
shouttag_mike ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:16:32 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True we were in a crisis beset by greed and irresponsible policy set forth by wall street and politicians, on both sides of the aisle, and while true we have had 70 months of job growth, let me hit you with a little knowledge.
We are at the lowest labor participation rate since the late 1970s. Source: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
"In 2013, real median household income was 8.0 percent lower than in 2007, the year before the latest recession." Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States
Number of food stamp participants have nearly doubled under the King's reign. Source: http://www.trivisonno.com/food-stamps-charts
The King nearly double the national debt, adding almost 10 TRILLION dollars. Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/1/obama-presidency-to-end-with-20-trillion-national-/?page=all
There are several other failures, but to be honest I've already wasted enough time with this.
MoonLiteNite ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:41:08 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
just like with bush, so mush lying makes you age like a bitch!
Dplymkr88 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Telling all those lies really ages you...
trentonjeffro ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:17:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spewing bullshit for 8 years is rough I guess.
endprism ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:23:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
7 years of constant lying and murdering people with drones takes a toll.
Err_Go ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 22:44:27 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, destroying the constitution really takes its toll.
MrBobDob ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Photos of facial expressions while talking... I bet you could find a shot from the first where he looks exhausted and a shot from the second where he looks hopeful.
The grey hair and wrinkles I can't explain though. Wizards?
Edit: \s for the last line. Fairly certain it has something to do with the passing of time, not wizards.
smitteh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They grey the hair on all presidents after a few years in office. They want them looking vibrant and youthful and full of energy in the beginning when they arrive, and then looking older and wiser like a silverback later on. Happens every time
Zyclunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Regarding wrinkles, the first pic is badly filtered, has the artifacts of agressive noise reduction.
batmans_scrotum ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:28:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks more stressed as he got older.
Scrubbing_Bubbles_ ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
7 years takes its toll on a middle aged guy.
Yaoi_Boy ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:36:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Memes ages a man.
FearAzrael ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:04 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, he looks almost 8 years older.
curmudgeonlylion ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
rekt
p00pstar ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alternate title. Obama's flattering and unflattering pictures.
bracesthrowaway ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I blame Republicans.
icecreammachine ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:51 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm almost willing to put up with a Trump presidency to see what it does to him
boneleech ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What sucking dick for big business does to you.
naughtyandnicegirl ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, a person ages in 7 years...who knew? He simply topped using hair dye. He doesn't have to now. He's already the president. He only had to try when trying to get elected. Also, he does look a little whiter. Maybe he has the same disease Michael Jackson had.
show_me_yo_moves ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:23 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, I'm wearing my 6th grade English Poetry hat right now but there is some deep metaphorical shit right here. The picture analysis is themed "Inversion."
Here goes:
-Let's start physical. The use of his right arm and the his left arm. It's showing his change in nature and how he's shifted his dominance. or something like that
-Colors. Notice how precisely inverted his red and white tie is with his blue and black one. It's a perfect inversion of these colors in the color spectrum. It signifies his change from being a sweet sugar cane to someone who's been roughed up.
-Finally there's the binder. The white signifies the optimism he has for the future being the first Black President and all. The black finder juxtaposes this. It shows the transition from his naive to pessimistic sate. Nothing changed during his administrative years.
-Colors again. The person in the background is clearly a racist. The blue tie signifying his opposition towards the elected president. The red white tie symbolising his feeling of savory for the new president.
BrushGoodDar ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the change he must have been talking about.
NotPercyChuggs ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:42 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost as if people's looks change in 8 years, especially when you're in your mid to late 40's.
Treshor ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:43 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it possible he cared more about his appearance at the beginning of his presidency and so dyed his hair back then?
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do all the presidents age so quickly?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:40:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:50:30 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You sure it's not because of the Aliens?
Dehalo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm out definitely could be. Aliens and stress.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:03:29 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And smoking, you know he got those Newports in his pocket.
Dehalo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course. Aliens, stress, and newports
nreuter ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: People who don't understand photoshop.
s4embakla2ckle1 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what happens when you sell your soul to greedy Wall Street bankers and other assholes.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do Presidents stop dyeing their hair near the end of their final term?
hdhale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because their public image doesn't matter quite so much.
shiba_storm ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really like Obama :)
eddieiffts ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't like him- but he's far better than Trump
WildBohemian ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's still got it though.
Natx123 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am i the only one who respects this guy even tho he is considered a world wide douchebag ?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No you are not the only one sadly.
Exconvictt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Obama you served this country well. Would make my life if he answered.
Oreotech ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama has been the best president America has elected, in my lifetime. No, I'm not 7 years old.
jagdverband ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Assuming you're under 25, there's not much competition - some people will argue you have to go back at least to Bush Senior for the last better than average president. Bush Junior was an idiot who wasted every shred of political capital he was gifted with 9/11, and Clinton , while a savvy political manipulator, comes/came across as too sleazy, even before Monica Lewinsky, to be great.
Oreotech ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:26:33 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You could also dispute whether GW Bush was even elected.
lelandoj ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently murder is taxing work! BOOM double entendre!
sashundera ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being a president is the hardest and most stressful job, I hope it goes well for Bernie considering he is already at a high age.
Tungurbooty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:27:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, Bernie will look like the crypt keeper!
MotorMUT16 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He still looks like an idiot
MrJDouble ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It appears the head is heavy that wears the crown
PastafarianT ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He just looks like he's sick of everyone's shit.
heelercs ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That poor man....
heelercs ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That poor man....
heelercs ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That poor man....
iwascompromised ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jimmy Fallon addressed this last night. He reminded everyone to look at a picture of themselves from 8 years ago.
malariasucks ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well that's what happens when you're lying and full of shit every day
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:25 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, about a decade of leading a nation of ingrates will do that to you.
fionnuisce ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a big old job being the president. Trump has neither the patience nor the maturity to be president. If he did achieve office, then I think he would have a nasty surprise.
On a side note, I think his plastic surgeon would be happy.
RobO2112 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trying to remember all those lies, it takes a lot out of ya'...
xintox2 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well his experience hasn't taught him anything....that speech he gave us he gave us 8 years ago....didn't do any of it.
redjd777 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's a sack of shit.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:02 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All those days out on the links have really aged him.
moto_otom ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:20 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being an evil, communist, America hating piece of shit appears to really take a toll on a person...
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Forcing two mandates through and costing tax payers $15,540,515.10 USD on vacations looks like it took a mighty toll on him. Can't have anything to do with cigarettes.
Arfman2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:18 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
15 million dollars? Isn't that the amount of money the USA goes deeper into debt per minute?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:20:10 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IDK that may be true as well, but anyone can look up how much we've spent on his family vacations. It's insane.
Arfman2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:40 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe, just maybe, his vacation is so expensive because he needs to be protected at all times by 20 odd people.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:42:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, dude. 15.5 million dollars to travel to Hawaii and back. Must be due to the salaries of the SS. SS agents make anywhere from 44-75,000USD per year. So, lets do a little simple math that blows your thought out of the water. We'll take the high number and say he has 20 SS with him at all times. 75,000 x 20 = 1,500,000. 1.5 million USD. That means he would have to spend an entire year of his eight year presidency to make their salaries be any sort of substantial fraction of that 15 and a half million dollars. Oh, but you said 20 odd people. We'll avoid the semantics that you will inevitably whip out and account for 30 agents salaries at the max number, 75,000USD. I also rounded that number up. It is 74,xxx. Again, to avoid petty semantics in your retort to this.
If it was 30 agents it would be 2.25 million USD for their salaries to be covered by 365 days of vacation. As of august 2014, he has taken 19 vacations that add up to 125 days of vacation. So let's extrapolate that to eight years. If he continues at the same rate, he will leave office at the end of eight years with 167 vacation days. Again, I rounded up. It was 166.67. That's not even a half year. His vacations require less than half of 20-30 SS agents' yearly salaries over a period of eight years. So it's less than one million dollars that has been part of his vacation bill to us tax payers.
On top of that...they're going to get paid anyways! They're not hourly. They have a contract. They're going to get paid the same amount whether they are with him or not. The whole cavalry (not even close to it) doesn't go with him on vacation.
You are not even remotely close to being any sort of correct. Literally on another planet. You sound like a college kid who thinks he/she knows everything about everything.
I can't even believe you would justify paying for his vacations anyways. That dude is loaded. He was a lawyer, a mayor, wrote a book that made him millions and millions of dollars, makes 400,000USD base salary, then gets 50,000USD for an annual expense account, 100,000USD non-taxable travel account, and 19,000USD for entertainment. That's 569,000USD per year and will be at 4,552,000USD by the end of this year. Currently sitting at roughly 3,983,000USD. Then he goes on vacation and 15.5 million USD on top of that. So he will cost the tax payers 20,052,000USD. 20 million fucking dollars to be president for 8 fucking years. And he has done JACK SHIT. All he has done is pass a mandate (which is illegal) that ended up making healthcare more expensive and put smaller healthcare firms out of business while larger ones are absolutely struggling...and then this stupid shit with the guns last week with his fake tears on tv. The guy also holds the record longest time between presidential addresses (surpassing president Bush) and he has increased the national debt by a larger amount during his FIRST term than every president before him...COMBINED. If you take the amount of national debt that has been increased during each of our presidents since the inception of this country and add it all together...Obama spent more than that in one god damned term.
He will go down in history as the most costly president...along with the least amount of accomplishments out of any president in our history.
Maybe, just maybe you should educate yourself before spewing gibberish and internet banality, because some people know what they're talking about believe it or not.
Arfman2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:08 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most costly president? Do the numbers on the Bushes please, lol.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:10:19 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you not read? Obama spent more money in his first term than every single president before him combined. You are very ignorant.
Arfman2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:15 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think back which president rattled the hornets nest (Iraq)?
panic_scam ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lying. Not even once.
DDDD123 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:19 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So glad he will be gone in a year. The token POTUS will be no more.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spineless in both
Arqideus ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt this wasn't intentional. He could have easily colored his hair black all throughout his presidency. He probably just wants to look old and wise as he goes out of office to convince the public he was a wise president and therefore, a good president (since that's what people will assume).
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:50:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That explains the bags and wrinkles too, huh?
christianishigh ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:56 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The years have not been good to him and neither has congress
Enders_Ekko ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He deserves it.
Nikolaythw ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Before dealing with old angry white people. After dealing with old angry white people.
PharaohJoe ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:36 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like star wars, once you turn to corruption it visibly changes your appearance.
CaptainPaintball ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just imagine if he actually worked as hard as the others, and went to all the meetings?
I still want to know what the inscription on his ring really says...
Cougheebro ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea this looks like regular aging to me. How can he be stressed with the amount of vacations he takes?
armlesshobo ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:08 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Signing all those executive orders wear a person out.
iTroLowElo ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 14:56:58 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you gotta deal with the current GOP your life is just being sucked away.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 14:57:14 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well 7 years of fighting the fucking republicans will do that to you.
EDIT: I dont give a crap about politics. Saw waay too much shit while I was in to believe anything anyone said.
Zarantyr ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 15:56:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
being a pile of shit really takes its toll on you
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you'd know
its_a_clump_of_cells ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, you are correct
waynebradysworld ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 18:28:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Destroying the greatest country in the history of the world takes alot out of a guy.
Valdream ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:32:53 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Greatest country in the history"
LoL
GandalfSwagOff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:01 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MURICA!
[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 15:05:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I guess the stress of killing millions, introducing millions to poverty, and helping to dismantle one of the freest countries comes down hard on someone. Who would've thought?
Before you downvote- think to yourself: am I downvoting because I am so ignorant as to the effect of the president on the world, or have I deified a corrupt politician?
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 15:36:22 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Its_Lloyd ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:37:31 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, that's your reflection in the mirror.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:17:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Its_Lloyd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:05 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My Mom doesn't have a basement, unlike your Grandma. Keep drinking the koolaid son, soon enough all of your sense will be gone.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:05:50 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Its_Lloyd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:45 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really want to go back and forth in a "I know you are but what am I" cycle with an idiot like you, so I'm gonna go and let you simmer in your own stupid juices.
Enjoy your party ruining our country, Mr. Ray-cist.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 14:57:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eight years I was 17 and looked much different than I do now. I -- wait for it -- look older now.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:37 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its as if he has aged 8 years after being in office for 8 years! My son just graduated highschool, 8 years ago he was only 4 feet now he's 6 feet. The only logical conclusion is that high school makes you taller!
StickmanSham ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Say what you want about his politics, but Obama is a pretty good person at heart
Double0dude ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:10:32 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess black does crack
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:42:34 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama sucks
paradora ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:38 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure he was told to look sad and tired just for sympathy.
alexlayao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol just keep making shit up huh?
LonelyMontana ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:45:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His bitch ass fucked so many things up no wonder he looks fucked up.
JDBMDENS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:46:15 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lmao wanna go back to bush?
LonelyMontana ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:13:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hdhale ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, yes I do. He may have been mediocre in some respects, but he wasn't the partisan hack you have in office now.
Kittamaru ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:52:03 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All I can say is... I bet most of us would like like shit if we had to deal with a "do nothing" congress and senate for so long...
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:26:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, uh, and ummmmm, uhhh. Same mouth he sucked many Chicago men with. And still showing there's only one and he is allah. Fingers up America.
Johnny1911 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:44:54 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But... all the old people on my Facebook feed say he's been doing nothing but playing golf!
NeXTBYTE ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:29:51 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People like to talk about presidential aging, and sure, stress probably doesn't help. But 8 years between late 40s and 50s, you're going to see significant changes on everybody permalinksaveparentreportgive goldreply [โ]blackpony04 1473 points 9 hours ago You're absolutely right. I'm 45 with older siblings who are 54 & 55 and we look nothing alike due to the difference of that decade. Not to say stress doesn't play a part but everybody looks different than their 8 year younger self at just about any age. permalinksaveparentreportgive goldreply [โ]tupacsnoducket 686 points 9 hours ago my dad could pass for being in his 30's all the way to like 53~ then BAM he was definitely 50~, wrinkles, grey hair in beard and head, they weren't even that bad but her certainly wasn't 30~ permalinksaveparentreportgive goldreply [โ]Notasurgeon 463 points 9 hours ago This happened to my mom. She went directly from her 30's to her 60's in like two years. permalinksaveparentreportgive goldreply [โ]Kritical02 485 points 9 hours ago My guess is she went through menopause. permalinksaveparentreportgive goldreply [โ]jyoocp 1055 points 8 hours ago Asians permalinksaveparentreportgive goldreply [โ]Fat_Brando 77 points 5 hours ago Reminds me of a story... Friend of mine traveled to Mexico. While drinking at a bar, he mentioned that he didn't see any middle aged women around town. There seemed to only be young, attractive women, or older, less attractive women. No one in between. The guy on the stool next to him told him, "The beeg ones... eat the leetle ones." permalinksaveparentreportgive goldreply
zearou ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:48:28 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Golfing must be stressful.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:35:52 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the use of amphetamines is still prevalent among the african american population
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 14:24:16 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People age. And?
solidus44 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:19:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 years too many. good riddance
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:20:41 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This world can't take another day of this jackass Obama, let alone eight more years. Good riddance ya JACKASS.
EnVinoVeritaz ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:58:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I guess destroying our country takes it's toll.
edit: keep the downvotes coming. the more I get, the more I know i stuck it to you America haters.
thundertool ยท -48 points ยท Posted at 13:38:26 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck that job. He spent most of the time golfing and the stress still aged him like crazy.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:55:52 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be curious to know how many vacation days Obama took compared to W.
cat-ninja ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:03:09 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They don't really have conventional vacations since they travel with staff and still have daily meetings. Nancy Reagan said that presidents don't take vacations, they change the scenery. Numbers that I have seen have Bush spending almost 900 days away from the White House and Obama spending close to 200.
Ekolot ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 13:58:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bush by far
kevie3drinks ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:38:48 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, but Bush spent the time clearing brush and mending fences on his ranch!
capnpitz ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:01:55 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure Obama could take the rest of his term off and Bush would still have him beat.
GaryCannon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:02:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama:182 (W) Bush: 407
As of December 23, 2015.
jkostry ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:07:46 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 99.9% sure he didn't spend "most" of his time golfing, BUT I could be wrong. That seems a little excessive.
NeXTBYTE ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:30:30 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Horrible President
Refrmech81 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 00:50:54 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hard work being a lying piece of shit.
Cerimo ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 03:13:59 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mother F*&cking SCUMBAG. History will judge him as the nation's worst president, and the most damaging to race issues/ progress.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 18:17:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What has he done in 8 years?! I'm from Britain but the only thing I am aware of is 'Obamacare' I know its something to do with health insurance, but is that it!? He seems to have been a completely useless President, even African Americans seem more up shit creek than before, what has he done for them. And its true about the Teleprompter. In 8 years he ALWAYS reads from autocue.
I have been watching Trump rallies and he speaks with no notes and covers loads of issues. Now I know he is unpopular with liberals but you know what I reckon he would be a 'doer' President, who at the end of his term it will be possible to see what he has done. I think he will sort out a lot of infrastructure as that is what he knows best and thrives on. I can see him giving the go ahead for big house building for poor people, new airports etc. I also think he would be good for job creation. And even though the liberals will kick up a massive fuss if he slows illegal immigration it will have a massive positive effect. First it will slow the rise in Americas population, which is important for quality of life, also it will create higher wages and job vacancies for Americas poor, which in turn will lower crime.
Obama never was qualified to be President, far to young with no experience of managing anything.
Megatron-81- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:47 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol you have no idea what you're talking about. Go back to listening to David Cameron and his war on porn.
scoldeddog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:11 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't even do Obamacare. The president doesn't have the power to create laws or taxes. Congress created the affordable care act, Obama only signed it into law.