Your parents took decades to furnish their house

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ fat_tire_fanatic ยท 27388 points ยท Posted at 04:45:10 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)


If you're just starting out, remember that it took your parents decades to collect all the furniture, decorations, appliances, etc you are used to having around. It's easy to forget this because you started remembering things a long while after they started out together, so it feels like that's how a house should always be.

It's impossible for most people starting out to get to that level of settled in without burying themselves in debt. So relax, take your time, and embrace the emptiness! You'll enjoy the house much more if you're not worried about how to pay for everything all the time.

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Abaddon_4_Dictator ยท 3743 points ยท Posted at 05:54:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

On this same idea...

When we go on a vacation, we typically plan to buy one piece of artwork / decor. We aren't rich and our house is pretty bare, but all of the decor we have has a good story and memory related to it, so it means more to us than just taking up space on our walls.

MLM90 ยท 301 points ยท Posted at 11:58:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We do something similar when we go on vacation. When we pick out things to buy we try to buy things we are going to use. I think I got the idea from another Reddit thread a long time ago. So we have a wooden utensil set from Cuba, a big wool blanket from Iceland and from Australia we had the same idea as you and we bought a small but nice piece of art from the natives at Uluru. It's a great idea and it's you also get some use instead of clutter out of souvenirs.

beldaran1224 ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 12:27:34 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. I studied abroad in Morocco. I got a little handmade rug that I use as a cover for my nightstand, and a couple paintings from an artist I met in Fes. I have a couple clutter type things, but those all stay in a box that I rarely look at. I know which ones I'm most glad to have.

SarcasticMethod ยท 743 points ยท Posted at 07:31:31 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Nailed it. Those generic artwork or pictures you can get at Ross, Marshalls, etc. have never appealed to me. They just feel so empty. I also never understood why you need to clutter up your space with hollow decor all at once. I mean, I get wanting to decorate, but it just ends up feeling tacky.

Drawtaru ยท 379 points ยท Posted at 13:06:25 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Although sometimes generic Ross or Marshalls art can speak to you. Several years ago I was at a store like that, and I saw this very large generic canvas print of a goldfish. As a goldfish enthusiast, I immediately knew that I had to have it. Even though it was generic and cheap, it spoke to me. I still have it, though my goldfish are gone now. It reminds me of them.

SixSpeedDriver ยท 127 points ยท Posted at 15:11:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

We live near Seattle, so we bought the giant Seattle skyline print that Ikea sells. We have a vaulted ceiling in our living room (and in our old house, a giant tchotchke area over a closet in the stairwell) that needed a big print to fit the room or over that space. I think it was $50 and it looks great

Drawtaru ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 15:14:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly. Art is subjective. If you like it, and you have it in your budget to afford it as a frivolous expense, buy it.

btwilliger ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 17:36:06 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I prefer empty.

I have no posters, art, or things hanging on my walls. No nick-nacks. No 'things' on book shelves. No pictures. No plants. No.. anything.

I even hate painting the walls, because the room will become smaller.

I've never understood the need people have to collect such objects.

Yes, I enjoy art. But I find that looking at the same thing every day, is utterly and completely boring. And it turns something 'neat', 'awesome', into something commonplace, dull, and uninteresting.

What a horrible thing to do to something I once thought of as 'neat'.

Hell, I don't even have curtains on ANY of my windows. The only place I have any window covering, is on my bathroom window -- a blind.

(To be fair here, I live in the country... so, no near neighbours.)

I think we've all been sold a false bill of goods. Scammed.

Many people I know, have secretly admitted to me that they feel they NEED to decorate their house, or they'll seem poor, lacking it taste, or that something is wrong with them.

But much like the OP's statements, another thing is true.

Most people did NOT have art all over their house. Even rich people did not.

This is all a recent thing. Collect all the little prizes, small things, memorials. Spend what mass production produced.

Absolutely no blame here. I'm not saying it's wrong. Perhaps, in some, it's an itch that couldn't be scratched 100 years ago, but can be now.

But, I don't get it.

Drawtaru ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:18:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

But I find that looking at the same thing every day, is utterly and completely boring.

But your walls are bare. That's also looking at the same thing every day. People like to decorate. That's fine. You don't like to decorate. That's fine.

This is a recent thing.

Define recent. Humans have been painting and decorating for tens of thousands of years. Sure it's mass-produced now, but art is a part of society.

btwilliger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If you follow my comment past the 'boring' statement, you'll see that it's a horrible thing to do to something 'neat' or 'awesome'.

My walls are already boring. Having walls, isn't rendering something I thought of as cool, into something commonplace. Something that by familiarity, becomes boring.

To me, having a great piece of art on the wall, is like having my favourite song playing in the background in at room in my house. All day long. Over and over and over again.

How long, before that song becomes uninteresting, boring, bland, and loses that original WOW! that made you love it?

Art is static. It doesn't change. YOU change, and how you interpret a piece of art.

If you constantly stare at the same piece of art, that jarring realisation that 'I'm seeing this differently' never happens. Because, every day you've changed a little, and every day you've looked at the art -- and never noticed the gradual change in your perception of it.

So many things are lost with over-use. Over exposure.

I do have a few pieces of art. They're covered and put away.

Bare walls for the win.

bjjjasdas_asp ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:29:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Perhaps, in some, it's an itch that couldn't be scratched 100 years ago, but can be now.

I'm struggling to understand what you're saying. That people just had bare walls until recently?

Every square inch of ancient rooms were decorated, if people could afford to. Here's a Renaissance room. Here's one in ancient Rome. Ancient Greece.

People can have different tastes, and you don't like decorations, but you're projecting your feeling onto others if you think everyone is secretly like you, and is decorating just because they're "supposed" to.

Personally, if I enter someone's house and all the walls are white, and they have no art, no curtains, no plants... it looks like someone's first dorm room. It has zero sense that a specific person lives in it. But that's just me. We're different.

btwilliger ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:53:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Please see here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/6mzg27/your_parents_took_decades_to_furnish_their_house/dk6w27w/

It more fully describes how art is belittled by constant exposure to it.

In terms of decorating, yes, SOME peoples did. Well to do people, as you allude to.

SOME well to do people.

Regardless, I stand by my statement. That art will become bland, tasteless, and commonplace to the inhabitant soon.

How horrible, if you like it. How sad, for that special piece.

WhynotstartnoW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:19 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Hell, I don't even have curtains on ANY of my windows. The only place I have any window covering, is on my bathroom window -- a blind.

I wouldn't consider curtains to be 'decorating' unless they're some kind of outlandish thing. Even the communists put blinds or shutters on their barebones prefabricated apartment complexes. What do you do when the sun hits your face? Just move to a different room?

btwilliger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:35 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Ah.

Some rooms are located, where the sun can't shine in them directly. EG, on the North of the house.

I live in the country, so I have lots of trees around my house. They keep the sun off in the summer (less A/C), and the wind reduced in the winter (eg, blowing -40C winds).

On the South of the house, the trees are dense enough that the sun can't hit when low in the sky. It has to 'clear the trees' to provide direct sunlight onto the house, and when it does, the angle is too high for the sun to get past the roof eaves, except sometimes just barely entering the room.

So, it just sort of works out.

Hmm.

I realised there is one exception to the 'bathroom only' rule. The bedroom. I basically took multiple old bedsheets, taped them to the window.

Why? I work nights sometimes, so sun=bad when sleeping.

Slipped my mind, because it's been that way for a decade.

CupcakeMom ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:30:50 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Would give my left arm for this photo you speak off!!! As a previous, long time resident of Seattle now living in TX, it is extremely difficult to find and purchase for a reasonable amount anything having to do with Seattle or the Seahawks. So, I have a similar large print of New York hanging in my living room instead. I miss Seattle.

harbinger06 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:48:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I wanted something large to hang above my couch, so I went to a "Starving Artist" sale. It consisted of hundreds, if not thousands, of pieces by student artists. Canvases of all different sizes. You'd see the same scene a dozen times, but they would all be slightly different in color and technique. I eventually found a large seascape (36x48inches) in just the right tones. I just love it, and it was only about $40!

SarcasticMethod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:13:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Nice! That's part of what I mean, too. Decorate with art that speaks to you, rather than just getting stuff to get stuff.

coraregina ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:13:39 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It really can. I'd been looking for months for a piece of art to hang above my sideboard. I finally found the perfect one in the clearance aisle at Michael's. Perfect size, color scheme, everything. Spent maybe $5 on it.

Meanwhile, I need to personally make a wall hanging for the space over my dining table. Same room, drastically different levels of price and involvement, but both things that speak to me and the space.

The picture hanging in my bathroom is literally the cheap insert that came with the (I think also clearance) frame because it was actually exactly what the room ended up needing.

SethQ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:35:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I was once dating a girl who wanted to go to IKEA. After two hours of wandering around we are almost to the exit and she hasn't picked up anything. Turns out she was just "having fun shopping, she didn't need anything". I was disgusted at the idea that we drove 45 minutes to IKEA, spent two hours there, and we're gonna drive 45 minutes back for "a fun day out". I bought a cow print I'm the clearance section for like $5. Five years later we've long since broken up, and I still have the print. It reminds me not to waste my life in an Ikea.

POP_L1F3 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:12:03 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

No that's pier 1 where they shit talks to you or so the commercial makes your believe that. Went in and nothin said shit. Much Dissapoint.

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ktkd ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 13:19:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Can I ask what company that is? My walls are looking a bit empty and I love the idea of "your picture on canvas"

UsernameIsCougs ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 13:25:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I use CG Pro Prints, and have been very pleased with the results. Two 16x20 canvases we're like $55 total, including shipping.

elbirth ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:03:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

as a photographer that shoots for clients and looks for high quality products, I use CG Pro Prints and am always incredibly happy with the results. My clients always love their canvases and they aren't having to pay the crazy high rates of traditional ones

Max_TwoSteppen ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:08:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

As the other person said, Costco is pretty reasonable. Just bring it on an SD card and I think it runs like $35?

My mom had some prints of my sister and me done that are now hanging on the wall and they look really nice, even without frames.

calloooohcallay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:51:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Most big-brand print shops/photo shops offer canvas prints now- Staples, FedEx print shops, Costco or CVS photo centers, etc. The actual production happens at some central facility then they're shipped to the local store for pickup. It's worth doing some price comparisons because there's usually a sale somewhere.

SonOfTK421 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:10:08 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My buddy is a "hobby" photographer who thinks he isn't creative but takes brilliant photos. So much so that almost every one of his favorite bands has practically begged to use his photographs officially. So when he asked to shoot my band? Hell yeah.

Max_TwoSteppen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:20 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My mother does this with my pictures. Not always canvas, often just 8x11 or something. But I travel a lot and take pictures even just with my phone and at that size they end up looking nice.

fixurgamebliz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That sucks for them.. you should offer a decent payment for that. Just because they're too dumb to realize there is a decent market value for their work doesn't mean it's OK to exploit that. Really devalues the work of photographers.

yeah_but_no ยท 138 points ยท Posted at 07:46:54 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Nearly everything on my walls was made be me, my girlfriend, or friends of ours. Or it's a thrifted/vintage type of item on display. I have never been able to afford to travel and collect wall decor as I go. But I've always been friends with artists.

When you trade art with someone, that you each made, you are getting that same "moment captured in time & tied to a physical object" effect that you would get from art you brought back from traveling. But it was also made by that person and reflects their tastes and aesthetics at the time. I have art hanging up from friends that I haven't spoken to in years.

janbrunt ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 12:20:22 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We've been in our house almost 9 years and I've been collecting art for the last 6 years or so, mostly pieces from artist friends, whatever catches our eye at an art fair (that is under $200, haha), originals from decreased relatives and signed prints gotten at thrift stores or Habitat Restore.

What a difference it makes! I get to see beautiful art everyday in my home and my rather extensive collection creates zero clutter in my home. Win-win. My PF cost-saving secret is to buy large solid wood frames at thrift stores and then have a professional framer cut a brand new matte and place my art in the frame. Even the biggest frame and matte will cost less than $100. Custom frames are crazy expensive and not a good deal at all unless you need something very specific.

queen0fdiamonds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yes this. I have a few pieces made by myself and friends, and maybe one or two from trips I've been on ( can't take many) - however thrifting / garage sales / flea markets are where it's at. Our bed is the only thing that isn't second hand. We have made some amazing finds and the best part is its everything unique and you're never gonna find the same stuff elsewhere. Finished my bf and my (small) place in a little over year and it was very inexpensive! And so unique to us

bukkakesasuke ยท 243 points ยท Posted at 10:33:20 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Typical PF: I don't understand the cheap stuff at Ross, just buy art on your biannual vacations or hand craft it yourself.

beldaran1224 ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 12:25:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's not that it's cheap. It's that it's pretty meaningless. It's actually very cheap these days to purchase prints that you like online, and it's much better (usually) than buying generic prints.

There's also family photos. Those are much more meaningful than some random thing at Ross. And many people (with kids) get those every so often anyways.

katarh ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 12:58:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We go to the High Museum of Art in Atlanta pretty regularly, and I'll regularly scrounge up nice art posters from previous exhibits from the clearance bin. Got one of the 2012 Terracotta Army exhibit (which we did go to) for $5 last year. My husband got it custom framed as my Christmas present. Now it's hanging in our hallway, a beautiful conversation piece with multiple awesome memories associated with. Total cost under $50.

beldaran1224 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:09:50 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly. The idea that sourcing unique decor automatically means you're rich or whatever is a bit out of touch. I mean, whatever works for you. But is that store-bought decor really worth anything to most people? Frankly, I think most houses are far too cluttered on the walls and tables. If we were a bit more careful and frugal about decor, our houses would be less cluttered and out wallets much happier, as a general rule.

Dunnersstunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Antique prints are a relatively inexpensive way of getting into art collecting. I've found some dealers online of Japanese prints which are pretty inexpensive and an English dealer of some good stuff too.

A particularly useful skill to learn is picture framing, which reduces the expense considerably.

Lame-Duck ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:02:50 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to travel. That's my own personal financial choice. A cheap pitcher from the monastery in Florence means a lot more to me than something similar I can buy in Marshalls. Similar things can be said for any trip even if it's 30 mins from your house or a short weekend trip you took to the mountains. It doesn't have to be expensive or require a trip overseas. My wife and I have been doing this for years and the little things add up to a home that feels like home.

SarcasticMethod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:19:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Well, that's not it. Adding to what others have said, it's not necessarily about the dollar amount. Everyone's situation is different (not to mention everyone's idea of a vacation/staycation is different). Really, what we mean is that it's better to find decorative pieces that are more personally meaningful. It isn't always the most frugal to buy the cheapest things if they don't resonate with you as much; the memories and feelings souvenirs, personalized art, etc. can invoke are often well worth it.

Although if course, you are more than welcome to buy whatever floats your boat, wherever it comes from.

Schump97 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:52:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I.e do something more expensive or cheaper depending on your budget? Seems like pretty good personal finance to me.

swearinerin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have both these things. Went to Canada for the first time and bought a picture that the guy carved from a block of wood and it's amazing!

But I also have a big picture of a tiger from Ross. But I LOVE tigers and am also extreme happy with this!

Both sentiments work. I would never have bought a normal average picture of a flower or something as that just isn't me and I enjoy the story behind my wood piece. But have a 3x5 foot picture of a tiger for only 25 bucks from Ross was too good to pass up and will def be a story when people enter my new place as well:D

hanzman82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I would agree, except I have a giant 3' x 3' canvas of a lion from Ross hanging in my house. It has a story though. One Christmas, I was wandering through Ross with my wife and I saw this ridiculous bejeweled turtle. I got it for my sister because I thought she'd find it as hilarious as I did. So for my birthday she got me the ridiculous lion canvas. Every new place I move into I hang it in a prominent place because it's absurd and starts funny conversations. We each spent maybe $20 on those gifts, and without context they're meaningless, but I plan on keeping that lion until I die.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:13:48 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

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fixurgamebliz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I agree, but having bare walls makes you look like an axe murderer who just rented the place to stage the next murder

Galbert123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I also never understood why you need to clutter up your space with hollow decor all at once.

some people like that hotel room feel.

floydfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My wife and I have a wall of fossils and dead things, including fossilized dinosaur poop and a taxidermied squirrel paddling a tiny canoe. They didn't all come about at once, but through a decade of careful selection. The dinosaur poop origin cannot be told in public.

Sevruga ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 12:28:08 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely. Just write down a few of those stories so one day when you pass things on, people have them. I have little notes behind paintings, envelope sewed onto the back of a carpet, etc.

zekthedeadcow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:29:26 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I buy thrift store art and those notes are sooo helpful in getting me to buy a piece I may not otherwise buy... even just the artists obituary helps. I recently picked up a piece that has the obit and a note from the inheritor.

worm_dude ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 11:15:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

When we go on vacation

You may not be fabulously wealthy, but you're already doing better than a huge percentage of the population.

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PattyO933 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 13:25:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Came here for interesting money saving on home decor ideas, leaving on this note. Vacations are perfectly normal things and mean something different to everyone. If user has the cash for a cross world excursion then go for it. If all they do is a staycation then go for it. I've done both and have fun no matter what. Give me my wife, dogs, beer, and no work and I'll be happy.

Tldr: float your own boat, spend within (your) budget. Have fun.

HyruleanHero1988 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:46:32 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Sometimes I have weekends where I make sure I have no obligations, and then I try to spend most of the day outside, including finding somewhere I can dine outside. Usually spend the rest of the day walking on trails near my house. End up spending whatever the cost of food is, don't actually need to go anywhere or spend too much, and it still ends up feeling like a vacation because it's out of the ordinary for me.

--Paul-- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:57:50 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Even that can add up quickly though if you're not careful. Gas, tolls, accommodation, food is the real killer, once you're away from a kitchen or walking around town you're stuck eating prepared food.

shadow1515 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:16:07 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

No matter how many times I do it, every time I budget out a trip (which I do for fun, so this is far more often than I actually go on trips) it always shocks me how large a portion of the budget is just food. It can often be worth it to spend a little more for a hotel suite with a kitchen so you can buy groceries and make most of your meals.

sashafurgang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Right on. If we're going somewhere for more than a few days, we rent a suite with a kitchen, or a whole cottage, and one Christmas we even rented a houseboat in Amsterdam for a week.

Each time it was maybe $25-50 more per night than a basic hotel room in the same area. But two people eating three meals a day in somewhat respectable eateries is WAY more that $50/day, so we ended up saving substantially by mostly cooking for ourselves.

Plus it gave us the chance to experience the local every-day life and not just feel like tourists, and we learned to cook with local ingredients. So much more fun!

worm_dude ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 14:00:34 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not assuming anything. Check the stats. A huge percentage of the population doesn't have enough time off nor enough money to pay for the gas for a simple 3 hour drive.

I think the largely middle class population of Reddit vastly underestimates how bad things have gotten for the lower and lower-middle class.

cordial_carbonara ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 13:25:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, I consider a vacation any trip we take. For my birthday, my husband and I spent 3 days at a state park hiking. The total cost was like $100 because we brought and cooked our own food on the campfire. I still consider it a vacation, and I've got a cool looking (and free) map of the trail that kicked my ass mounted in a poster frame in the hallway. It looks quite nice, actually. Vacations don't have to be luxurious getaways at the end of a plane ride

worm_dude ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 13:56:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I think you're underestimating the luxury of having three days off and $100 wiggle room in your budget. That's out of reach for many, many people. Just saying, don't take it for granted.

cordial_carbonara ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:38:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The people who can't take 3 days off and spend $100 aren't exactly concerned with furnishing or decorating anything.

I know, I've been that person. My studio apartment stayed bare, and it didn't even cross my mind that it should be otherwise.

worm_dude ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 14:50:50 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone's concerned about it to some degree. You think poor people are content to sleep on the floor? The whole point of this post is to offer some perspective to people struggling.

HyruleanHero1988 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:47:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, and there are people in other countries that live on like $3 a day. I hardly see how that's relevant to the discussion, I doubt those people are too concerned with decorating their living space.

worm_dude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:54:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm talking about struggling people in the US. It's relevant because the whole point of this post is to offer perspective for those digging their way out of poverty. And everyone's concerned to some degree with furnishing their home. Poor people don't put their mattress on their floor because of preference.

God damn. We so privileged that we can't even bring up poverty?

HyruleanHero1988 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:11:42 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

My whole point was that someone brought up getting things on vacation, and you chimed in with "If you can go on vacation, you're still rich!" and even reinforced the point when someone said a 3 day, $100 vacation. 3 day's might even be just a random holiday before a weekend, they might not even have taken the time off.

There will always be someone poorer. Should we not even have this discussion because some people don't have furniture? Should I chime in on every discussion about home ownership with "HEY! SIMPLY HAVING A ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD MEANS YOU'RE BETTER OFF THAN THE HOMELESS PEOPLE!"

Edit: And I don't mean to attack you. Your comment would have been a decent point in /r/frugal, which is more focused on how to spend as little money as possible. /r/personalfinance is more about using the money you do have intelligently and trying to get the most bang for your buck. There's somewhat of an assumption that you aren't just destitute in this sub. If you can't scrounge up $100 per year between two adults and manage to ever have three days off in a row, then you are literally destitute.

CujoCrunch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Once I spent 5 days driving around Tennessee and Kentucky for 370 including motels, fuel, food and beer. I could have cut that down to 150 if I'd camped in my tent.

The key is to enjoy "dumpy" motels and roadside attractions that would be luxury in many parts of the world. Pack lunches and picnic in the Tennessee River Valley - what a vacation!

worm_dude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Good for you dude. Sounds rad. I'd enjoy that, too.

Might not have been luxurious, but don't hate on it as "dumpy." Still more than many people have. Lots of folks trying to decide which bill they're gonna have to pay late this month.

arsenalfc1987 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:26:50 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We do this with our Christmas tree. Buy a small ornament-like thing everywhere we go, suddenly it's like a tree of memories.

Saraswatispock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:54:07 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I like to pick up shells and rocks from whatever beaches or forests we go to and put them in shadowboxes with a map of the location and some pictures. It makes me happy to see them all around the house and remember all the fun we had!

Edit_After_Upvotes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is awesome. My mom ties a memory to everything as well, but she's a hoarder and won't throw out stupid shit.

"I can't throw those old baby socks away! Those are the socks that you wore when you were 6 months old after visiting your father in the E.R. when he broke his arm!"

Everything. EVERYTHING has a memory and she can't part with shit. It's terrible. Thankfully it's taught me to throw away a lot more but damn if her garage, attic, and basement are full of some completely useless shit that has no value.

whirlingderv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:45 on July 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

On the topic of hoarders, I just learned of some recent research that indicates that taking a picture of an item that is being kept for the "memory" makes it much more likely that the person will be able to donate it. Consider working with your mom to make some photo albums or scrapbooks that she can use to store some of those memories, then donate the item so it can have a second life. It also has the added bonus that photo albums are much more accessible, so she can actually see and enjoy the item and be reminded of the memory much more easily by a photo in a book in her living room than she can by digging it out of the bottom of a stack of boxes buried in the back of the garage...

This tactic doesn't work for scarcity-type hoarding, though (think people who grew up in or just after the Depression, or during a World War, who knew real scarcity and rationing, so they save everything "just in case" they need it later, even if everyone - and sometimes even they themselves - can see that they're never going to need that 42nd bent and broken wire hanger...)

alzxjm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:34 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We do this with Christmas tree ornaments. Almost all of our ornaments were either bought on vacation, a memento given to us by friends/family, or something my wife and I made out of popsicle sticks and glue or something.

It makes Christmas really fun! The tree was bare the first few years, but now every Christmas putting ornaments on the tree is amazing. Constant memories and thoughts of family and friends. It beats the hell out of generic globes and fake plastic snowflakes.

RunnerMomLady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

also - if you celebrate Christmas, grab an ornament! After almost 20 years of marriage our tree is full of ONLY sentimental ornaments!

Thrillhouse2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

When my partner and I go to concerts sometimes instead of getting a tshirt or other wearable merch item we'll look for a poster. Usually the smaller acts we go see have really cool hand printed or screened posters that we can hang up and then we have a neat piece of art plus the memory of the concert! Way better than some homesense "Live Laugh Love" or other inspirational quotes ๐Ÿ˜‚

DrewBacon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I am also a subscriber to this idea. It's gives my wife and I a specific mission when on vacation to find one piece of art.

thebrokedown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Great idea. We also buy local artists and friends' work whenever we can. I have lots of talented friends, luckily.

GodMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Anytime we make friends with a visual artist or one of our friends dabbles in art we ask to buy a piece. Sometimes they're not great but sometimes they're phenomenal, and we have a few dozen pieces of art collected from friends all across the country. They may have cost more than store-bought art from a thrift store or prints purchased online or elsewhere, but they cost significantly less than one would typically pay for custom commissioned art, and we have a few places in the house that we rotate them through to change up the decor from time to time.

BlondieeAggiee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:49 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have a small trinket from trips displayed in a curio. My latest addition is a wooden chicken I bought in Honduras. My walls are covered in photos from all the trips.

I was in Las Vegas last week for the 4th time and decides to buy magnets to memorialize the things we did. Got a magnet from the Coke store, the high roller, and the Mandalay Bay aquarium. No ticket stubs to throw in a box to never see again and I always need refrigerator magnets.

lavigneurlife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, my dad was never the type of guy to go online and buy me something for no reason. If we were to go into the city for a day or for dinner, then he would go out of his way to get me a treat because it was a special day. It made me value a lot of my stuff more than if I were to ask for a shirt or something that I liked online. The experience of getting it is worth more than the actual item.

tkhan456 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:32 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That is what my wife and I do as well. We also celebrate birthday and anniversary the same way. On birthdays the person who is being celebrated gets to chose the item and on anniversaries we both chose.

RobertAZiimmerman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:03 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Art need not be expensive. We saw a painting once in Maine. It was $5000. The prints were $500. The poster was $50. My inlaws gave us the poster as a gift. We had it framed at Michaels (cost far more than the poster) and it looks great.

Avoid the temptation to go cheap by buying small. There is nothing more pathetic that a huge white wall with "an art" on it, hung crooked and off-center.

Better to have a white wall!

catlissa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We have one of those spray paint painting from a trip to NY for a friends wedding and Eiffel Tower paintings that we each made on our respective sides of the bed. We talk about those more than anything we have ever gotten from Ikea or something like that

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

To cut a long story short, we did exactly this in Cornwall, England.

Went to Tintagal Castle, a pebble dashed monstrosity on the beautiful Cornwall coast, raining cats and dogs so went inside. Eccentric artist invites us to look at his studio, end up in dingy basement studio with single bulb on a wire hanging from the ceiling, girlfriend notes the guitar, eccentric artist sings us a bloody song in a dark dingy basement. As if it couldn't get weirder, we go into the next room where he invites us to sit, we take a pew and the fucker turns the lights off and begins reciting poetry while turning on a light using a dimmer switch, infront of us a painting is revealed with this light shining on it, he does this no less than 5 times, each time reciting a different poem for the painting. He then asks us to choose a painting each, "you can have that", cheers mate, "for ยฃ190", not so cheers mate.

We go back to the restaurant and try googling this nutter but couldn't get any phone reception. In the end we opt to buy it.

When reaching signal we searched again and the first result was titled 'high pressure sales scam at Tintagal'

The guy was a sales genius. Worth a visit to see his craft of you're ever there.

spitefilledballohate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:38 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I do this too! I buy cheap prints from different places and when I get home I frame them. I have some nice Durer prints from Germany, prints from Amsterdam and Prague, and prints from NC outer banks. I love every one of them and they always remind me of happy vacation times.

TangerineHippo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We buy Christmas decorations. That way when we decorate the tree we end up reminiscing about each trip. I find sometimes things that are out on display all the time get lost in the background

THROWINCONDOMSATSLUT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Same thing. Our house has become a bit eclectic now because of it, but it's really cool! They're conversation starters and people are always inquisitive about the stories behind the stuff we have. I much prefer decorating our house like that than buying words to stick on the wall ("family" "eat"....because I didn't realize you eat in the kitchen or anything).

Azryhael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:20 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That's exactly what we literally just started doing a month ago! Aside from our basement den, which is covered in our sports teams' memorabilia, the other 3000 square feet worth of wall space was completely naked, and I wasn't interested in mass-produced prints, inspirational vinyl words, or generic Wayfair wall art. For nearly three years we lived with every wall and ceiling bare and covered in the exact same paint. Finally, during an incredible holiday to Alaska and absolutely perfect weather on our Glacier Bay day that resulted in dozens of stunning, crystal-clear photos of the Hubbard Glacier, we decided that we would order one printed onto canvas for our wall. It wasn't expensive (~$50), so we weren't sure that it would be any good, but it turned out beautifully. Yeah, that's not the greatest photo of an enlarged photo, but I promise it looks much better IRL. I'll update the attached pic later if it's still light out when I get home, as it looks better in natural light.

killermoose25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:48 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thats what we are doing only have like 3 rooms completely furnished ,we dont even go in the family or dinning room they are sealed and empty , going to build a gaming table over my stay cation in August

han9i ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:13 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I love this idea but I've never been able to do it. How do you have the room to bring home a piece of artwork or memento like that?

Psycik99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:09 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We do something similar. We have a 'travel wall' and get small pieces of unique art from places we travel, find cheap frames, and put things up.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:19 on July 27, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I do this when I deploy for the Army. I deploy for only 60 to 70 days but I'm guaranteed at least one deployment a year. I buy my wife a gift from wherever I go, usually some artsy nick nack type of deal that she can use to decorate with.

Scrivener83 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:21 on October 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My wife and I do that to. We each buy one souvenir when we travel, plus a Christmas ornament (so, 3 items total). Her souvenirs tend to be something useful (e.g., hand-painted tile trivets from Portugal, wind chime from Portland, Maine), and mine tend to be decorative (e.g., antique map of Quebec City, jade dragon sculpture from China).

When we bought our house, we had a mish-mash of cheap things from her apartment, my apartment, and old furniture from my grandparents (who were, luckily for us, downsizing at the time). For our anniversary, birthdays, Christmas, and other special occasions, we will often pick one thing to "upgrade" in the house. For example, for our anniversary last year, I made my wife a new kitchen table and matching bench seating out of maple butcher block. For Christmas last year we replaced my old university futon in the basement with a proper sectional sofa.

A really big rule in our house is that if we buy something for the house, something of roughly equivalent mass/size needs to go. Perfect example: last week I picked up an antique colonial maple hutch, and I sold our old hutch on Kijiji. Also, I got my wife to agree to let me buy a new peacoat, in exchange for giving up an old leather jacket that I never wear to Goodwill. It's a great way to help keep down the clutter in the house.

Hardcore-UFOs ยท 5206 points ยท Posted at 04:50:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Great advice! Always remember that thrift stores are a great place to hunt for cheap, starter furniture. If you like the thrill of the hunt, you can always explore alleyways too to find a table here or there.

theoriginalharbinger ยท 2802 points ยท Posted at 04:55:32 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also, at risk of sounding crass... estate sales.

I've got a bunch of solid oak furniture built in the 50's I picked up at garage sales. It's a pain to move, but I never really have to worry about it breaking.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ fat_tire_fanatic ยท 1581 points ยท Posted at 05:11:25 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Lol, nearly my entire house except the bed was from Craigslist or estate sales at one point. We've replaced a lot of the "soft" things like couches (a little more gross potential than wood items). I got a screaming deal 10 years ago on our solid oak dining room table, has a bunch of marks and stains. I thought what a great project! Cheap table but it will be beautiful when it's refinished.

Still not refinished.... table cloth when guests are over is just too easy!

beniceorbevice ยท 841 points ยท Posted at 09:57:49 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I can't stand it when i say "Craigslist" to someone and they laugh and scoff at it, and in my mind I'm just thinking how dumb they are for not using it. My best purchases came from Craigslist (some eBay). And I'm currently about to move and need furniture and I've been looking at Craigslist and i can't believe how much like-new furniture is sold for like $100-300. I'm talking about mint sectionals and couches, lounges and 6 month old smart TVs, there's no reason to buy a new TV when you can see it turned on and working at someone's house first instead of opening a box at home and finding dead pixels or dead screens.

People move into an apartment or a new city and get a job offer in a different city and pretty much give their stuff away. You have to look in successful neighborhoods in big cities. Wherever there's lots of young professionals there's plenty of them trying to move up and move out and go for better jobs.

Therearenopeas ยท 689 points ยท Posted at 11:01:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

So I'm not shitting on Craigslist or anything because they do have awesome deals, but I'm not buying a couch or a mattress for a couple of reasons: bedbugs/fleas other pests, and cat pee damage. There are a lot of things that sellers can hide that will turn up a few days after purchase and then you're stuck with a problem.

mahTV ยท 948 points ยท Posted at 13:11:42 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Sooo.... We were moving, and we had a festive night out before moving day. I passed out on the couch, and someone may have peed my pants. A lot. Still never found out who.

Anyway, it was a nice couch, though cloth, and I didn't want to have it cleaned to move it. It was typhoon wet in the middle cushion and backing. So I put it on CL. I said my friends child slept on it and peed it up (The shame was too great). I said that on the ad, full disclosure. Although I didn't say it was full grown man-pee, pee was definitely involved. It needed to be cleaned.

I listed it for a silly price (like $20 because I thought 'free' would take longer than crazy low price). The people that came 2 hours after I listed it asked about the pee area. The lady pointed to the pee "zone", then (shutter), pushed her spread hand into it until it did that weird wet phhhshhhuuuk moist compression noise. She raised her now moist hand and said "Ain't that bad!", then put said glistening hand in her purse and grabbed me $20. She never asked to use my sink. Loaded up the couch and off they went.

I don't know how this is relevant. But that CL lady touched my pee.

Max_TwoSteppen ยท 154 points ยท Posted at 14:07:25 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

someone may have peed my pants

My buddy tells a story just like this where someone puked all over his shirt and bed...

alreadygotsome ยท 127 points ยท Posted at 15:25:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

One of my favorite jokes is along this theme.

A married guy goes out with some of his old single buddies. He lacks the tolerance for alcohol that he once had, and he starts realizing that he's really drunk. His friends, glad to reconnect with him, continue to buy him shots. He tries to turn them down but the peer pressure is too great so he keeps drinking until his stomach has had enough. He ends up vomiting on his shirt right there in the middle of the bar. His wife is rather up tight, and he starts to freak out about what she's going to say when he gets home. As his friends are loading him into a cab home, one of the friends tells him to relax, and asks him if he had a $10 bill. The drunk guy reluctantly reaches in his wallet and hands his friend $10. The friend tucks the money in the drunk's shirt pocket and tells him to tell his wife that a drunk guy puked on him, but not to worry because the guy felt so bad that he gave him 10 to get his shirt cleaned. Reassured, the guy gets on the cab and makes his way home. When he arrives his wife is visibly upset, demanding to know why he was out so late and why he smells like vomit. Confidently, the man relays the story about someone else puking on him, and tells his wife to reach in his shirt pocket for proof. His wife grabbed the money from his shirt, examined it, and then pointed out that there was actually $20 in his shirt pocket - to which the drunk husband replied: "oh yeah well he also shit in my pants".

borderlineidiot ยท 203 points ยท Posted at 13:52:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Do you have any more stuff you are selling that you have peed on? I was looking for some cushions ideally or a pillow

Therearenopeas ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 13:27:03 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Hey at least you were honest. I have a cat who has ruined our rather nice couch with her peeing behavior (vet checked, she's just a shithead cat) and I would never sell it. When we move it's going to the dump.

mahTV ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 15:06:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Just curb it, buddy. You will have two '94 Dodge Caravans in front of your house in twenty minutes literally battling each other for that couch.

My money is on the one with the paint peeling off the hood. Though the rusted quaterpanel model used 'coolant leak cloud', and it was super effective.

AngryBagOfDeath ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:35:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

A good time is taking shit out to the curb and drinking on the porch with friends betting on how long items will remain on the curb and also as people pull up guessing what they will take.

Therearenopeas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:16:28 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That's my neighbor you just described! He has shitty straight pipes, too. Guess we will see. Idk, I see couches sitting outside people's houses (at least in my neighborhood) for a week or more and it looks trashy as fuck.

binarycow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:49:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have a guys phone number who will drive to my house, and pick up literally anything I don't want. Even was willing to take trash bags out of my trash can.

burnice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:57 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You should try watching "My Cat From Hell" if you haven't already. I suggested a couple things to my mom when she had a pee problem with her cat and it worked.

carelessthoughts ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:07:54 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I bet she was a mom. I used to get insanely grossed out by fluids from children and then I wore shit on my face like war paint while changing my daughter's diaper. It was on my hand and I scratched my face not knowing. Couldn't clean it off for a good few minutes because I was so busy getting her ready. I just laughed about it. Nowadays I can help other people's kids if they are sick or whatever without getting completely grossed out. That lady would have probably screamed if you told her where the pee really came from. Not saying it's all that different, kids just have a way of defusing some people.

mattdahack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe she had a pee fetish? Just think if she had touched it again you could tell everyone she touched your "pee pee".

vonMishka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Our town was hit by Hurricane Matthew in October. The flood water mixed with raw sewage and ruined so much stuff it was crazy. Then it sat for a while so there was mold. I can't tell you how many trash pickers took stuff from every curb with their bare hands. Many items starting showing up on Craigslist and FB sale pages. So we started spray painting orange paint all over the curbed contaminated items. People started seeing items with orange paint at the flea market. My guess is pee hand lady sold that couch!

curiosity_abounds ยท 175 points ยท Posted at 11:28:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've heard this a lot of times from friends who are willing to pay double the cost of a sofa or sectional for this security. But there are some tricks to making sure that your sofa is safe. Check in all the cracks and dig around to look for discoloration and eggs of bugs. Flip all the cushions over. And only buy in nice neighborhoods. If the house or the owner smells weird, turn around.

I've bought loads of "soft" stuff off of Craigslist through multiple moves and have never had a single issue.

Not to tell you that you can't decide to buy your soft stuff from a store if you want that peace of mind. But I just wanted to give another perspective.

Shandlar ยท 240 points ยท Posted at 11:40:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Leather. Craigslist in the affluent areas is awesome. My cousin just found a 4 piece theater lounge chair in black leather for $1000 from a wealthy couple divorcing and selling everything to split the assets. Like a $5k set without a mark on it and it's leather so he just gave it a round of cleaning and mink oil and it's gorgeous.

lyone2 ยท 152 points ยท Posted at 12:58:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I bought a beautiful leather reclining sectional a few years ago on Craigslist that was originally $2000. The lady had it less than three months; and had made her mistake of not measuring her living room before she bought it (wtf?). She was asking $900 for it, and I was interested & contacted her but let it fall off my radar for a few weeks. Then she emailed me back and said she was dropping the price to $500 because she just wanted it gone. I rented a U-Haul and drove the 45 minutes each way that same day and brought it home. Final cost with U-Haul and gas, $620.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ fat_tire_fanatic ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 12:01:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The real LPT is in the comments! Nice.

Daxx22 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:05:54 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Same applies to actual thrift stores, go to the ones near/in affluent area's and the quality of the goods goes up a noticeable amount.

hikerbikerCO ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:25:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Whoa, I need to hit up the wealthy areas! I'm mostly in young professional/college areas so there are great deals (even free!) but the stuff is what you'd expect for that age range/life circumstances

obscuredreference ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:48:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Try also garage sales in affluent areas. Amazing finds.

One time I was at one where the husband was organizing it, the wife didn't feel like doing it because it was hot outside, but a lot of the stuff was designer items from her and he had no idea how much to sell them for. I got a real Prada scarf for $1, like new.

One time at another garage sale, I arrived like 5 minutes too late but some guy had just bought a small plane for $15k. (The plane was obviously not there physically, but was real.) The elderly owner of the plane liked to fly recreationally but was now too old and his son just wanted to get rid of it rather than have the upkeep etc., and someone got very lucky.

But you have to be there at the asscrack of dawn because everyone else who goes to such events knows everything good is gone right away. So they arrive before the garage sale even opens.

In some cases, 30mins before it starts a lot of the good stuff is already gone. So you have to find a balance of not annoying the owners but also not waiting until the good stuff gets taken. Start hanging around, talking and checking out the stuff etc. before the garage sale starts.

LundgrenTheDolph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Best deal I ever gotten were these amazing two leather arm chairs with ottoman for $100. The seller posted it on Facebook yard sale and within 8 minutes had 13 comments of people wanting it. I DM them and said if I came right then and there if they would give it to me and they said sure. 25 minutes later I was at home with them. They ended up being military and it didn't fit their new home.

ayyyhannalmao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:22 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We got an entire bedroom set (bed frame, mattress, 2 end tables, a dresser thing) for $200 from this really rich guy. His daughter was moving bedrooms and the furniture was super heavy and they didn't wanna move it. So $200 and pick it up and it's all yours. So worth it. Shit is SO NICE.

yoh_rrg ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 11:39:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with this-- even my 55 year old mother who could arguably afford to go buy a new sofa found hers on Craigslist, she just made sure to go look at it (but also the seller's home) beforehand to make sure it was from a clean and smoke-free house. It can be a great deal (she always brags about it when she has people over) if you're willing to take the time to do some research and wait for the right thing.

9bikes ยท 158 points ยท Posted at 12:48:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

...who could arguably afford to go buy a new sofa found hers on Craigslist... It can be a great deal

(she always brags about it when she has people over)

Poor people brag about how much they spend; rich people brag about how little they spend.

dingdongsingsongfrog ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 13:41:35 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

No way! Grew up dirt poor.... After college and a crap marriage and divorce, I'm just finally digging my way out once again, and all I do is tell people there deals I've gotten.... To, like, an embarrassing degree. I guess I've just always loved sharing the deals, the tips, etc.; .. but I can't stop now that I'm older, it's almost compulsive. I got my first "label" dress for a wedding this summer, at Tjmaxx. I found a Calvin Klein and a Ralph Lauren, both in my size, and under $40. I was exstatic! Buuuut also couldn't stop telling anyone who complemented my dress how cheap it was. Ugh. Why!!!???? Also, I get crazy embarrassed if people know I've spent a lot on something... Because I have a lot of guilt, knowing the money from that object could/should be going to something else.

itsacalamity ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:30:31 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Eh I didn't grow up poor and I do the same thing. It's the power of the deal, you just have to tell someone how proud you are! :) Sometime, ask me how i decorated my dining room for $25...

9bikes ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 13:55:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm just finally digging my way out once again, and all I do is tell people there deals I've gotten

Your example supports my point. You see the importance of getting good deals and you're on the road to getting richer.

Sethodine ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 14:27:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I think what they were saying, is that the attitude behind bragging about expensive things is what makes you poor, and the attitude behind bragging about deals is what leads to building wealth.

UsedToBeHot ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:35:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's not a bad trait! We live in a million dollar house and have done quite well for ourselves. Our kids went to a fancy high school with a lot of jerks who loved to flaunt their parent's wealth.

Our son asked for $10 for a suit to go to prom. He came back from Good Will with a grey suit that looked great, except for a rip on the inside lining. He was so proud of his deal, even telling his friends and teachers at his fancy high school about his great bargain. Makes me happy not to have a stuck up kid!

csc033 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:41:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I don't understand why everyone doesn't buy their clothes at Marshalls, TJMaxx, Outlet stores, etc.

I have probably 20 Tommy Hilfiger button down shirts I bought at the Tanger close to my office over the course of a few years. I've never paid more than 6-7 dollars for one. I'm always getting compliments on my dress at work. I really don't understand how people pay 40-50 dollars for the EXACT same shirt in new patterns.

meatsting ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It likely isn't the same shirt, unfortunately. Most manufacturers started making clothing lines specifically for outlet stores a number of years ago.

They want people to think that they're getting a sick deal when in reality they are getting lower quality clothes. I think one retailer actually just got in some legal trouble recently because of this tactic.

I'm sure they still do carry actual clearance inventory, but it's a small percentage.

csc033 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I don't buy that. If so, I'm not sure how they could be any better quality than the one I'm wearing right now. I know the one I'm wearing at the moment I bought for an LSU game in 2013 and it's probably been worn 1-2 times a month since, and dry cleaned about every 3 months. It still looks like new.

Jeeze, I didn't realize how old some of my shirts are until just now.

sirkkanKalakukko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

omg I feel exactly the same... I've never been rich by any means and love a deal, mainly because it's the only way to be able to afford things, and I'd also feel guilty spending more on something I know I can buy for less. And when someone makes a comment about something I own I feel like I have to tell them how much I paid for it. Someone says I my jacket looks nice, I need to tell them "isn't it? I got it for 10 bucks at such and such place!". I started to get the feeling that it was getting annoying, so now I make a conscious effort to just accept the compliment.

brown_paper_bag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:35 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing wrong with getting excited about a great deal. I went to Winner (like Tjmaxx) and picked up a $185 Michael Kors sleeveless knit dress for $70. No regrets. That thing will be in my closet for years to come and will be worn often enough. It's super comfy, warm enough to wear on a plane (with a blazer) but cool enough that I'm not dying in 90F+ heat.

AsherGray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:04:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, depends on the person. I'm pretty sure my friend who owns a Tesla, Range Rover, Bentley, Frisker, and some other cars isn't going to be bragging how he got them all for super cheap (I mean, he didn't).

Agent_Potato56 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:11:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but a lot of wealthy people (speaking from experience, my parents and their friends bring home a nice stack of money) like to brag about deals they got. You know those propane patio heaters? My mom got a really nice one that's usually $1000, but she found one on Craigslist for $400. We could definitely just buy one new if we wanted to, but there's a kind of thrill when deal hunting. Plus any saved money doesn't hurt.

AsherGray ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:39:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Plus any saved money doesn't hurt.

Haha, that's exactly it! The illusion of saving money by spending money. The problem with it is most people are buying things for a slick price that they normally wouldn't buy. If you were on the market for a grill, then spending that much may be reasonable (unless you already made the decision to only spend a certain amount). But if you were just browsing, then come across this grill that is over 50% off, there's no way you can pass up such a good deal. Bragging about one's purchases varies immensely and can range from justifying a purchase to sharing the good news and informing others about a deal, though a lot of it does have to do with the thought in mind of how one is perceived.

9bikes ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:14:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, depends on the person

True, bragging about getting a good deal is more common among rich folks who made their money themselves.

Those who simply got lucky (being born into a wealthy family, etc.) are less likely to understand the importance of making wise financial decisions and consequently less appreciative of the value of keeping their expenses low.

laxpanther ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:22:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've been in need of a sofa/set for a while (fuck you Bob's discount furniture) but have been putting it off, not because we can't afford to buy a good set, but because our kids are 3 and 1 and regardless of quality, its just going to get children'ed to death no matter what. I'm navigating to craigslist right now to see what's doing. Thanks for the impetus.

Overthemoon64 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 11:56:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It doesnt have to be craigslist either. Personally I like consignment shops. I got my awesome leather couch for $275. And I paid an extra $50 for them to deliver to me, since I don't own a truck and I live 45 mins away from the store.

Saratrooper ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:31:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I too just recently discovered consignment shops! I was able to get a small antique mahogany curio cabinet of sorts for $50 that is perfect for displaying my SO's tiki mug collection and some of my nicer plates and whatnots. It had been there at the shop for quite a while (and the shop owner was eager to get rid of it). The mahogany veneer in some spots needs to be replaced and fixed, but for now it's perfect and a great piece we'll be holding onto for a long time.

tlivingd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yep got a gorgeous round dining room walnut table and 8 chairs this way out the door for $500-600. It also has (6) 14" leaves stretches to get 16 people around it. When moving I had to find a place with a dining room big enough for it cause it's really deep too. People sitting across from one another can just touch fingertips. It's great for board gaming.

wildlybriefeagle ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 12:35:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

So a really common misconception is that bed bugs are always in the poor areas, which isnt true. Bed bugs have nothing to do with economic status, and buying furniture from an affluent household carries about the same level of bed bug risk.

curiosity_abounds ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 12:54:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I do agree that bed bugs can happen to anyone, but your chances of buying a bed bug infested piece of furniture are higher in lower socioeconomic homes. If an affluent person gets a bedbug infestation they have a lot more resources to deal with the problem. A poorer person might try to pawn the furniture off because they can't afford to replace it if they toss it.

Poorer people also move around a lot more and can pick up bed bugs in motels or friends houses.

If the person doesn't know they have a bed bug problem then you can check buy searching the cushions for bugs.

ikahjalmr ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 13:37:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Not to mention poor people usually live in higher densities. Tons of people cram into cheap apartments, whereas the richer you are, the farther you tend to be from your neighbors (compared to poor people)

YeOldeButtPirate ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 14:57:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

It's also got to do with the fact that poorer people are more likely to pick up a couch left on the side of the road. (Source: I've been a college student. I've done that shit because fuck, free couch!) They definitely can live in rich or poor places, they don't give a shit about how much money you make or how clean you keep things, and there's other avenues that rich people can get them from too that are less available to poorer people (hotels, for example).

If you live in a college town and throw out furniture with bedbugs, do everyone a favor and slash up the cushions real good before setting it out. Like, visibly destroy it. Makes it less likely for someone else to pick it up and spread the infestation.

Actually, do that anyway when getting rid of bedbug infested furniture. Just the right thing to do.

3lfg1rl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've seen "BEDBUGS!" written in sharpie on dumped couches. Boo for illegal dumping, but yay for responsible illegal dumping!

YeOldeButtPirate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That's a good one! I worked apartment maintenance in a college town for one of the cheapest complexes in the area. Part of our training involved checking couches that were discarded by our dumpsters for bedbugs and tearing up any that showed signs of them to avoid an infestation. Our apartments were generally in bad shape and often dirty (all college kids), but we only had two bedbug problems while I was working there. One was a girl who brought a mattress from home that had them (fun call from her parents while I was on call later trying to blame us, but then they had their house checked and called us back to apologize. We took care of the apartment, regardless, since our maintenance staff and policies were great and we covered all sorts of stuff as part of the lease since the apartments were old and had a lot of problems that needed fixing all the time.) the other was actually my current roommate before he lived with me. Picked up a couch across town. Never made that mistake again lol.

Just be a good person and help people out lol.

llDurbinll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I live in a shitty apartment complex and when people toss out mattresses they typically use spray paint and write "bugs" or "bed bugs" on it so people won't use it.

jfedoga ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:32:28 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

In an urban environment it doesn't really make a difference since they spread easily in trains, buses, movie theaters, etc. I ended up with one bed bug hitchhiker I picked up on the train or somewhere else, and that experience (from literally ONE single bedbug that thankfully was male, so no eggs) has made me someone who would sooner burn my house down than buy secondhand upholstered furniture.

ikahjalmr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:25 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, I will never even consider it. Wood maybe, but even wood and electronics can be crawling with all sorts of nasty shit. Better to save up and buy something nice than take the chance with something used, for some things

Rambonics ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 13:07:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Very true, in fact it's the more affluent peeps who can afford to travel who really spread it around from hotel to hotel & then back home again & then the people with less money who can't afford to totally exterminate them. Mattresses are expensive & poorer people really don't want to throw them away, and even if they do, bedbugs can live in nooks and crannies in a bedside table or even an electrical outlet. So disgusting. If I remember right, they can live almost a year without feasting on human blood. Most of the pesticides were banned & they've also become resistant to them. One of the only ways to kill them is high heat, over 120ยฐF for 20 minutes in a regular dryer. I guess there are services that come to your house and raise the temp to try to kill them all. Always put your luggage in the bathroom when you first get to a hotel, then go look under & on top of mattresses and pillows for dark little spots which would imply old dots of blood. It gives me the heebie-jeebies just thinking about it. I found this evidence at a nice hotel in Florida a couple years ago. I immediately brought my belongings to the front desk and told them. At first they were defensive and suggested that I brought them with, but called their bug guy who investigated and said they'd been there at least two weeks. They thanked me, then shut the whole floor down to exterminate & gave me a voucher for a week's stay to use later.

Efften ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:06:13 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Bed bugs do not care how dirty or nice the hotel is, they will stay for free. And the more well traveled hotels that have international guests can have them since lots of them are brought over on luggage from other countries.

mountaingirl1212 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:28:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

One of my biggest fears is getting bed bugs. I checked into a very nice hotel once. My mom sat on the couch and noticed a bug on her. Then she noticed another one. She got up and asked me if I saw any. I didn't, so I picked up the pillow on the couch and dropped it on the floor, to see if anything would fall off... Well the entire carpet started crawling with them. It was horrifying. We put one in a cup and they told us it was a mosquito, YEAH RIGHT. We checked out and left. Luckily we did not get them.

They were only on the couch, not in the bed area.

I check beds and couches religiously now when I go to hotels. First thing I do when I get to the room.

_a_random_dude_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

One of the only ways to kill them is high heat, over 120ยฐF for 20 minutes in a regular dryer

That's why people move to Phoenix!

mattdahack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Before staying in a hotel, we always buy a $12 zip up mattress protector and pillow case protectors. Zip them up and put on all new sheets from house keeping. Makes me feel safer, who knows if it does anything.

scyth3s ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:28:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

So a really common misconception is that bed bugs are always in the poor areas, which isnt true. Bed bugs have nothing to do with economic status

That's where you're wrong. I've never seen a bed bug working for more than minimum wage, and that's pretty scientifically damming to their upward social mobility.

Any that find lodging in better neighborhoods is simply a squatter.

Shellbyvillian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:35:11 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I get that you want to save some money, but I'm with /u/Therearenopeas on this one. Your anecdotes may be positive but 99% of transactions can go smoothly and then that 1 out of 100 can completely screw your whole plan. Exterminators are expensive and just the thought of things crawling on me and biting me in my sleep makes me itchy. Your tricks are not a sure-thing. Nice neighbourhoods get bed bugs, too. It's not worth the risk.

It's fantastic for electronics and wood furniture though.

gorkt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:09:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly. I have two couches and a soft chair from Craigโ€™s list and both are fine. You can usually get a sense of whether a soft good will be fine from the first moment you step in the house. If it smells or seems unhygienic, just say that you have decided you are no longer interested and leave.

Azara1th ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, people with a little money often sell things for less because they don't care as much about getting top dollar for it as they do just getting it gone so they can get the new stuff in place. I gave away my pool table for free because I had to have it out of the house quickly and ain't nobody paying good money for a raggedy single-piece slate table that is a bitch to move. Got it gone in a couple days though.

stanley_twobrick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

only buy in nice neighborhoods

This is so key. There's a lot of nice expensive homes in the town north of me, so I check their kijiji instead of my town's. I picked up a $2000+ sofa and chairs set from a guy for $300. It was almost completely unused because it was their "sitting room" furniture and they only used it when they had guests and they had recently decided to convert the room into an office since they were having a baby. Just speaking with the family you could tell they weren't dickheads trying to scam me. Use good judgement and most of the time you'll be fine.

Gustomaximus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

A relative said to me, 'I couldn't possibly buy a second hand bed that had been slept in by who knows' to which I replied 'So do you not go to hotels?"

I'm with you, good neighbourhoods, check out the house and owners and examine the couch/bed and your on good odds.

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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:22 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, my first apartment I had a chair, just one. And a coffee table. Tv and consoles sat on the floor and whenever my girlfriend came over we'd eat on the coffee table. I also had 2 sq ft of counter space in my kitchen so that coffee table became prep station for anything other than meat as well when cooking. I miss that apartment.

Iamien ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

Have access to a garage and a kerosene heater? put furniture in the garage with the heater and let it get super warm for an hour.

Then open the garage door and wait an hour for the carbon monoxide to completely dissipate and enjoy your bedbug treated items.

StrangledMind ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

if you live in a city with a bad BB problem.

Ask an exterminator in your city about this. It's not just "areas that have bed bugs", they are actually becoming a major rising problem everywhere. A single pregnant larvae hitching a ride on your clothes or luggage can infest anyone's home. High or low-end hotels, mansions and ghettos: everyone is at risk. It sounds alarmist, but they are ridiculously good at surviving and spreading...

AatroxIsBae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I wish I could just sit on a rug, but I need back support. Gaming chairs usually help that though, and are cheaper than a couch

Rambonics ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 12:11:13 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I agree. I am not willing to get a single bedbug in my house to save a few hundred $. Maybe it's just you & I who are cynical, but I don't want anyone's vomit, diarrhea, pee, blood, lice, skin cells, etc near me. I'm a nurse & I've seen enough of that.

2boredtocare ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 12:43:06 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm with you. People get up to all sorts of shenanigans on sofas too. No thanks! Wood items like tables and desks? Sure! I love to scour Craigslist for items I can refurbish (that won't also come with critters or have less chance of bodily fluids history). Also great for things like bikes for the kids.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:14:28 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, some areas have more issues with bed bugs then others so I can see it not being a big deal for some people but for others, it's a big concern.

Frankly saving a grand on furniture isn't worth it if I have to shell out thousands to deal with bugs. It's a myth that they only live in soft furniture and that they're easy to see. I've had a few friends who have had them and it's been a nightmare for them. I'd rather go without while I save then risk them. I even avoid buying from antique stores unless they have a comprehensive policy in place or it's something I can easily clean/treat myself.

canihavemymoneyback ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

How are you a nurse if you have an aversion to those items? Blood, vomit and diarrhea are kind of the definition of the job. As are pee, lice, and skin cells. WTF- skin cells?

Rambonics ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:04:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

LoL, I don't have an aversion to them. I've been a nurse for 28 years, but I don't want to bring it home with me. I've seen, touched, & smelled more than I'd like to, but it doesn't bother me at all. I like helping people. The worst for me was when I was pregnant & I was emptying a nephrostomy bag from someone who also had a brain shunt. Urine and cerebrospinal fluid mixed together... now THAT was a gross smell.

And yes, skin sloughs off & mattresses actually get heavier because of it.

stonefox9387 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:55:21 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And yes, skin sloughs off & mattresses get heavier because of it.

I'd hate to see the level of care of mattresses you're talking about, because no mattress gets measurably heavier from skin cells if basic hygiene is being followed. A sheet properly fitted to the mattress won't let skin onto the mattress. The only way to make a mattress heavier from use is to be shedding large amounts of sweat and skin oil into it, skin cells would be caught by the sheet. The biggest culprit on mattress weight (still no more than a few pounds) is humidity. Sweat while you're sleeping, or even just room humidity will seep into the cloth fibers. That'll add a few pounds in just a few days.

For that matter, everyone really should invest in a waterproof bed bug mattress and pillow covers. Even if you never get bugs, they'll catch the normal human body contamination before it touches your mattress/pillow. Only get covers that say they're washable, and have a spare cover for everything. When you wash the cover, do a full check for any staining on the matress/pillow as you're unwrapping it. If you see small brown dots, wrap it back up and call an exterminator, otherwise, put the new cover on immediately. Wash sheets once a week, wipe down the cover each time you change your sheets. Wash the bug covers once every 2-3 months, more often if you notice any buildup. That means a lot longer lifetime for your furnishings.

These steps will also help a ton if you have dust or pollen allergies, as it'll keep the dust/pollen from getting into them as well.

stonefox9387 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:55:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And yes, skin sloughs off & mattresses get heavier because of it.

I'd hate to see the level of care of mattresses you're talking about, because no mattress gets measurably heavier from skin cells if basic hygiene is being followed. A sheet properly fitted to the mattress won't let skin onto the mattress. The only way to make a mattress heavier from use is to be shedding large amounts of sweat and skin oil into it, skin cells would be caught by the sheet. The biggest culprit on mattress weight (still no more than a few pounds) is humidity. Sweat while you're sleeping, or even just room humidity will seep into the cloth fibers. That'll add a few pounds in just a few days.

For that matter, everyone really should invest in a waterproof bed bug mattress and pillow covers. Even if you never get bugs, they'll catch the normal human body contamination before it touches your mattress/pillow. Only get covers that say they're washable, and have a spare cover for everything. When you wash the cover, do a full check for any staining on the matress/pillow as you're unwrapping it. If you see small brown dots, wrap it back up and call an exterminator, otherwise, put the new cover on immediately. Wash sheets once a week, wipe down the cover each time you change your sheets. Wash the bug covers once every 2-3 months, more often if you notice any buildup. That means a lot longer lifetime for your furnishings.

These steps will also help a ton if you have dust or pollen allergies, as it'll keep the dust/pollen from getting into them as well.

So_Much_Bullshit ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:06 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Do you stay at hotels? Friends' homes? Movie theaters? They don't put brand new beds and sofas and chairs each and every day. So you ARE sleeping in others' stuff. There's absolutely no difference.

Miss_Cil ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 13:33:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

Agreed. Not to burst anyones bubble or anything but bed bugs don't really care about socioeconomic status. People travel for work, school, etc. So, if they are unlucky enough to come in contact with a person who just so happens to have bed bugs--well, let me tell you, the nice neighborhood won't protect them or their things they want to sell to you.

If you've been lucky enough to avoid bed bugs or any other "fun" items on your CL bargain hunts I say wonderful and I hope your luck continues. However, all it takes is ONE item that can't be washed and/or steamed down or treated that can turn your home into a living hell.

I have a friend who purchased a lovely dining set from none other than an, ESTATE SALE in a lovely area, turns out that the wood had some guests attached. "woods?" Roach eggs. (I dunno specifically what type, but for story purposes assume they are just the fancy kind that like to hang out in wooded rich areas). Lovely right?

Another friend of mine purchased a lovely solid bed frame and set another CL 'need to move out by xyz date for closing/everything must go estate sale etc etc.' The set was absolutely gorgeous probably over 15k originally--it brought with it bed bugs. She spent over $6,500 to get rid of them and had to throw out her kids toys and other items that couldn't be washed. It was a nightmare and totally not worth the risk.

Bottom line, I refuse to purchase ANY furniture from CL unless it's wrought iron and I'm tossing it outside. Just because a home looks clean, you can never really tell what the item you are bring home is carrying with it and unfortunately people who know they have bug problems aren't going to tell you ahead of time or maybe they genuinely don't even know (some folks don't react to bed bug bites at all).

My solution? I shop the furniture outlets and wait for deep discounted sales. I purchased an entire sectional from the Raymore and Flanagan Outlet for $499. I also purchased a king size solid wooden frame for $199. My mom hunted at the Macy's furniture outlets and when they are clearing inventory from their warehouses they practically give the furniture away! She purchased three three-person sofa's for 400 bucks.

I do agree that it takes time to build a home. But I say it's safer to save, wait, and stock it with newer items when they become available at a price your willing to pay at a furniture outlet. The alternative could be spending thousands you don't have on emergency pest control last minute & putting yourself and/or your family at risk.

Not worth the, 'bargain.' At least that's my opinion.

*Edit: Just some light reading on how pervasive these little buggers can be in any neighborhood.

Take a look at this article from the, NYMag.

An oldie but a goodie: http://nymag.com/news/features/65733/

Notice how complete anonymity was required to print the story and exterminators were required to sign non disclosure forms... crazy right?

I'm getting itchy just thinking about all this! Ugh.

RearEchelon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:26:35 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Bed bugs don't care about socioeconomic status

No, but affluent people can more readily afford to eradicate them

Miss_Cil ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:06:28 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

I absolutely agree. But I guess my point is that some folks believe that bed bugs are a "poor people problem." I think this is a particularly dangerous misconception b/c some people genuinely believe that bed bugs cannot originate from an affluent areas. So they do not take the necessary precautions to inspect the items thoroughly they are buying which in turn leads to the further spread of the bed bug population.

I think it's misleading to say that affluent people can afford to pay for it--and assume that, a) they know about the problem when the item is sold in order to exterminate (again, some people don't react to bites); or b) they actually treat the item that is being sold. Caveat emptor, right?

My point in sharing the above, really is to spread awareness that the problem can originate from any neighborhood so people don't mistakenly believe it can never happen to them just b/c they purchased in an affluent area.

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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:13 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That's absurd.

I got from Kijiji, the (much better) local Craigslist equivalent, the Ikea glass kitchen table, with the 4 solid, transparent plastic chairs. Got the whole set for $120. That's what one chair alone costs at Ikea, with taxes. And that's just an example to address Ikea specifically.

I went from a 2 bedroom condo to a 3000+ 5 bedroom house and furnished it all on kijiji. Every single light fixtures including a grand hallway chandelier , arm chairs, coffee tables, tv stand furniture, my kids trampoline and play set, my daughter's steel bunk bed, mirrors, closet folding doors, French doors, sofas from a Formal Living room that had never been sat on (which is where we also put it).

It's thousands and thousands of dollars I saved.

Not to mention that Ikea's business model is to lure you in with cheap furniture that's pretty much always back order and then you leave with 300 dollars worth of gizmos that you realized you "needed". At least it sure feels like my experience with that store.

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lm-hmk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:26:08 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I bought a mattress, box spring, storage bed frame, two bedside tables, and two lamps (with bulbs! lol) on Craigslist all for only $250. This was an incredible steal. Everything was from IKEA and basically what I wanted to purchase anyway (I was only looking for the bed). In fact, I was already at IKEA when I got the email reply about the sale. Everything was practically new. The mattress could not have been older than two years and it was clear that it had barely been used. They said it was in the guest room. I took a chance on bed bugs, etc, but when I got to that apartment, I saw it was in a swank building and extremely clean and neat. I really was not worried at all. The sellers were pretty awesome people as well.

So, you can totally find great "soft" items on CL. Just wanted to share my experience because I'm still in awe how much of a deal I got. These people just wanted to move from a two bedroom down to a one bedroom in the same building.

This was in NYC metro area btw.

Todo744 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:47:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I absolutely agree with this. I love used stuff, a majority of my house is Craig's list and yard sales. But I will absolutely draw the line on soft furniture, especially anything that could have years of other people's bare ass's on them.

StrangledMind ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:19:32 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Meh. For all intents and purposes, if something doesn't look or smell like pee, it's fine.

Bedbugs though. Fuck them. If you're someone who's saying it's worth the risk to accept soft furniture, you simply haven't dealt with those hellspawn... yet.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:46:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I had a problem cat for a couple of years and went through several couches. I had this beautiful, glove-soft leather couch, which that little fucker scratched and pissed on so much the smell would NOT come out. I tried many times. I put that thing up on Craigslist for free with a description of "Pee stained leather couch. It looks nice, but smells like pee. You will not get the smell out." I swear to god it was gone in 20 minutes and my phone didn't stop ringing for the next two hours even though the ad was deleted immediately.

People are weird.

Yyoumadbro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

So, I don't know anything about exterminating bed bugs, but I did work for a Rent to Own once upon a time and we had to deal with bug "situations" every now and then.

Can't you just buy the couch, put it in your garage and set off a bug bomb? Leave it overnight? That's how we treated suspect furniture but we would put it in the back of one of the trucks.

Therearenopeas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:45:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Probably, but some people don't have garages or they don't realize that the piece of furniture they bought is infested with pests. Some of those buggers are hard to find on furniture unless you really know what you're looking for.

WreakingHavoc640 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:51:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

In my place of work we deal with bedbugs on occasion. Since I thankfully (knock on wood) had never seen a bedbug before I started working there, I did some heavy research on them. Those things are hella creepy and yep they can hide in the smallest of places. Like even the slots on screw heads. I always flip furniture upside down or on its back and inspect it hella closely with a fine tooth comb with the flashlight on my phone if I'm going to buy it from a yard sale. I even ask the sellers if they've ever had bedbugs (not that they'd always be honest but I'm pretty good at reading their reactions and determining if they're telling me the truth). TBH I'm more afraid of getting bedbugs from a waiting room chair or a movie theater seat than I am at a yard sale. Just stay vigilant and keep your eyes peeled and you'll be ok.

The comment about the roach eggs on the wood furniture though - that thought creeps me out lol. Not sure what my reaction would be to having that happen but it wouldn't be pretty ๐Ÿ˜‚

Im_Not_Mr_Fantastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Scope the people/environment out... if they are living in a decent area, I would and have put money it and took the gamble.

Wasabipeanuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I ended up giving a very nice mattress away for free to someone since the person who bought the bed didn't want it. I did make the bed buyer 'pay' for it by not dropping the price on the bed.This ended up making someone less picky and in need end up with a great free mattress. Barely used from a guestroom bed.

When I was strictly a buyer I agree. Since starting to sell more on CL I've softened by stance a bit since not everyone is out to scheme someone (surely, probably, maybe?).

crayola88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This... bed bugs are a huge problem in my city and the landlord even warned us that we'd be on the hook if we brought them in (as well we should be). It's not foolproof to buy wood furniture either. I'll stick to metal furniture or appliances via CL.

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Miss_Cil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You are right that a careful inspection should turn up clues here or there. But, from what I understand, bed bugs can be particularly difficult to spot unless the item is heavily infested. They can go years w/o eating (which is flipping creepy) and so you might not see signs that they've made a home out of the furniture you're about to buy.

I'm not a bed bug specialist and I don't have one of those bug sniffing dogs so I just stay away from soft items entirely. Best I can do is avoid inviting the little buggers into my home.

I do see a lot of people's points. However, when you see what someone goes through when they have an infestation and what they have to go through to get rid of them--you have a serious aversion to the idea of buying used furniture from folks.

But you know, again, it's just my thoughts & experiences w/the topic. I guess it just depends on how risk adverse or loving a person may be. I'm just not up for that kind of gamble.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Not always the case, I got a shitty but new mattress for free then spent ยฃ40 on a couple of mattress toppers and hey presto, I've got a brand new memory foam mattress

zombiebomber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The trick is to know how to look for things and to always see the item before you buy. For me if it doesn't have pictures then it's an instant no go, even if it's a garage sale and they list what they have. I want to see pictures. Then the whole, how does it look? Why are they selling it? Is anything wrong? And I will never get something that has obvious bad spelling or bad grammar in the posting or conversation. That's just asking for bedbugs or something equally bad.

Jessie_James ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 12:07:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've purchased at least a half dozen couches from CL sellers with no problems. The worst is usually a stain, which comes right up with a steam cleaner.

People have this huge fear of bedbugs when in reality there simply is not that big of a problem.

And I say this as someone who bought a house that was infested with bedbugs and went through the horror of dealing with them for months.

FictionaI ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 12:19:02 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

Bedbugs are a legit concern when buying used furniture and beds. The amount of money and effort it will take to eradicate them will be much more than if you just bought new.

I'm not saying to 100% avoid used, but be careful. If you have them once, you will be scarred for life.

Jessie_James ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:32:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Uh ...

I say this as someone who bought a house that was infested with bedbugs and went through the horror of dealing with them for months.

Snushine ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:41:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

One good trick is to buy things before the people are done using them, like "We are moving, item will be available on the first." If they are still using the thing, chances are they do not have fleas or bed bugs.

pirateninjamonkey ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:27:31 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You get it from certain neighborhoods. They guy living in a $750,000 home isn't going to have fleas and bedbugs.

N1ck1McSpears ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 10:21:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I sold a bunch of nice/new/expensive stuff on Craigslist prior to moving across the country for much less than it was worth. I was moving, didn't wanna bring it but wanted the money.

Spitsucker ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 11:32:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I bought a Broyhill dining set with the buffet and hutch for $500 a few years ago. This thing was practically new. It sat in an unused formal dining room and they wanted to turn it into an office.

I also bought a car for $500. My daughter drove that thing for 2 years. They were military and were trying to leave quickly.

So many good things can be found on Craigslist (besides hookers and puppies).

itsacalamity ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:32:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Public caution: Please don't put puppies on craigslist. At least in my area of America, if you just give them to randos off the net some of them will end up as bait dogs for dog fighting and that is a really awful way to die.

passa117 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:43:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Your last sentence seems sincere. Those are two grade A reasons for using CL. Preferably not in the same transection, but I wouldn't judge.

[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 11:34:19 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I buy furniture on ebay or Craigslist when I find an amazing deal and then resell it after using for a few years, usually at the same price or a profit over what I spent to begin with. Almost none of my furniture cost more than $50 and I have a very well appointed home. My biggest suggestion is to have a saved search for eBay for "local pickup" that sorts by distance: nearest first. Most people aren't buying large items local pickup on ebay so you can get stuff for .99 OFTEN.

GoblinInACave ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:27:03 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've lost count of the amount of times I've resold stuff for a profit on eBay. Things depreciate in value by a significant chunk once they've had one owner, but after that prices are all over the place unless the thing actually shows signs of wear and tear.

If it's a decent piece of furniture and you've looked after it, there's no reason why you can't get more than what you paid for it whether you're the second owner or the fifth.

beniceorbevice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Ok i woke up to the most comments I've ever had and this one's gonna be the most useful one thank you. I never knew of that. I'm really good at shopping and haggling and knowing who's real or fake on Craigslist and the deals I'm getting but eBay local pickup sounds like even less people know about

beniceorbevice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Alright how do you set up an automatic watch list for local pickup? I don't see anything on the Android eBay app, is it just a desktop option?

Bouperbear ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 12:44:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Craigslist story time. A few years ago, my daughter was ready for a more grown up bedroom. We sold her old set to a young couple with the cutest little girl. When we were shopping for her new set we knew we wanted a solid wood set. Found a dresser that was a classic style, 20 bucks. We went to pick it up, and the woman selling it was moving out of state. She gave me about 30 tomato cages, suggested we give her old van a test drive. Since the 2 kids we had were with a sitter, we agreed. The van broke down on us, and we called her and told her we'd be a little later because we were going to mess with it and get it going. When we got back, she felt so bad. She said , " well I'm guessing you don't want the van, huh." My husband joked and said "I'll give ya 600 bucks for it." She agreed, we bought it and drove it home. Sold my small car, and fixed the part on the van for 75.00. 3 months later, found out we were having twins. A month after that, my husband lost his job he had had for 15 years. That van and the woman who sold it to us kept us from falling into debt and losing a vehicle, not to mention we now had the space to accommodate 4 kids. I'm sure there are horror stories from craigslist, but there are so many good stories too. I'll never forget when we left her house she said to us "we have had so many people help us out and I hope this becomes a blessing for your family." It most certainly was.

Catgirllewis ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:40:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I love stories like that! We got our sons nursery through Kijjiji and we decided that when its time after our daughter is done with it, we will make sure someone who needs it gets it. The set is beautiful, heavy wood and has already withstood 3 kids using it. We paid almost nothing for it and she gave us lots of baby items to go with it. My son is now almost 3 and I've hardly had to buy him, clothes because people gave us boxes and boxes of clothes. I give away all the stuff he has grown out of and what doesn't work for my daughter. It makes me so happy to help someone else out, just like the help we got when we almost lost everything. Keep sharing the blessings!

maskthestars ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 10:26:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Plus sometimes you just want a fresh start. Same case for me next time I move my $1000 sectional I'm going to ask $400, take $300, and where ever I go all fresh whatever it is. The likelihood of having the same or more space even moving within the city I am at is low.

_thane_krios_ ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 11:02:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My boyfriend and I are in the market for a new couch but don't want to spend money for brand new. What do you do to make sure you're not bringing bed bugs into your home? I've lived in a major city for the past decade and everyone I know avoids used furniture like the plague in case of bedbugs.

edcRachel ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 11:54:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Couch and mattress are the things I would exclusively buy new because bed bugs are so bad right now. Even moving trucks can be full of them.

If you can wait, then wait it out a few months until you can afford a couch. Or (not the most financially responsible decision) you could consider buying a cheap couch from a liquidators or something and upgrading in a few years. If you CAN spend the money rather than just don't want to, it's something I'd buy new.

Remember to check costco and amazon as well!

tealparadise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Are they really bad "right now?" I can't tell if I'm hearing about them now because I live in a city apartment now, or if prevalence is actually increasing. Thank God for old stone buildings with old stone walls.

704sw ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 11:20:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

An upholstered piece is where I personally draw the line on used furniture. Have you checked more budget-friendly options like Ikea?

raisedbydentists ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 11:20:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is what I do, but you need space: put it in the basement, somewhere were it doesn't touch a wall, and put diatomaceous earth under/around it. Don't touch the couch, and wait a few weeks. If there are bedbugs, you will see them dead on the floor (at which point you can throw the couch out, or treat it), otherwise it gets moved into the living room.

They make plastic bags you can use for smaller stuff, but I've never seen anything cheap for a couch...

Kit- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:22:20 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

diatomaceous earth

Everybody freaks out about fleas and bed bugs and spends big bucks on exterminators but literally this is the solution. It's not fast but it works.

Shellbyvillian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:38 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's only the solution if you have an empty basement you can use for several weeks. Very few people in large cities can use this "solution".

Kit- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:22 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Never had to deal with this, but based on the stories of thousands in lost furniture and and exterminator fees, letting the stuff sit in diatomaceous earth while you sit on lawn chairs and sleep on an air mattress in the kitchen for a few weeks might be worth it. I know that sucks, but depending on your income level you could be talking about weeks or months of work lost.

italiangreenbeans ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 11:24:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

DO NOT BUY A COUCH ON CRAIGSLIST.

I got what I had assumed was a great deal on a couch on Craigslist. $250 and the woman threw in a recliner chair. It was clean and undamaged. Clean apartment. No sign of problems. She said she was moving to New York and couldn't bring it.

Bed bugs.

$250 for the couch. $600 for an exterminator. $750 for a new couch.

Estate sale would be better than Craigslist but I still wouldn't risk it after the ordeal I went through. Nightmarish little beasts.

The only reason I realized there were bugs was because I fell asleep on it about a week after I bought it and woke up with no less than two dozen bites. The exterminator said had I not fallen asleep on it they would have eventually made their way across my apartment into my bedroom and into my bed.

centerXy ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 12:45:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

It also depends on the part of the country you're in. For example, growing up in southern california I thought of bedbugs as some vague mythical creature mentioned in the "sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite" rhyme. I got most of my furniture used or free off craigslist for a long time, gathered up cast away by dumpsters, given away by others, or from thrift stores. Never a bite or problem.

Moving to a different part of the country bedbugs seem to be a scourge here that people detest, so I've given up on craigslist furniture for the now. If they're as nasty and common as lice in parts of the West Coast then I'll heed advice and cough up extra on new furniture.

FucksGuysWithAccents ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 11:15:50 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Look at the condition of the home it is in. If it's a really clean place in a really clean building, that's a good sign.

Also, ask why they are selling it. If it's because they are moving, that is also a good sign. Also, look at the beginning of the month, because this is when people move into new places and either there is too much furniture between roommates or certain pieces don't fit.

As so many others have already said, besides mattresses, CL and estate/garage sales can be real treasures. Especially if it is solid wood furniture.

NeedsNewPants ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 11:55:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Look at the condition of the home it is in.

My house is spotless. Turns out my bed was infested with them shits (I commute on bus a lot so I assume that's how I brought them) I didn't realize for the longest time as my bites didn't show for some reason.

2boredtocare ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 12:47:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's like saying clean kids won't get lice. :/ Little critters needing a host DGAF what neighborhood you live in, or how often kids shower. My brother is a doctor, living in a swanky 'hood, and his kid got lice a couple years back.

_thane_krios_ ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 12:12:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, this is the type of reason why I asked-- I've known impeccably clean and well kept people that picked them up randomly. It's definitely not just a dirty home kind of thing.

AlmaReville ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:12:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Reminds me of a super affluent neighborhood where I saw them treating for bedbugs. Eleven exterminator trucks. And having a yard sale the next day. Yuck.

I also know of a local furniture store that was selling NEW stuff with bedbugs. Yikes. (One of those stores that also rents stuff.)

Daxx22 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 13:07:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's definitely not just a dirty home kind of thing.

Of course not, but it's also a measure of statistics. You still need to be vigilant, but if you're bargain hunting then it's not bad advice.

fascist___hag ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:52:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Just dealt with that crap last month - I wouldn't say my house is spotless, but it's definitely not what you would assume when you think of typically "infested" houses. I too take public transportation though my exterminator said I could've gotten them from my office building too since people bring them from home all the time.

I lucked out because I noticed the bites immediately (super sensitive skin), so when my exterminator investigated he only found 2 eggs and no evidence of any bugs whatsoever (no droppings or actual bugs). Still had to pay out of the ass for treatment, but it could've been a lot worse.

NeedsNewPants ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:00:07 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah we can't really afford extermination so we had to do some research and asking around. A friend told me to get isopropyl and dissolve some camphor tablets in there and put it in a spray bottle.

A spray of that kills them on contact. Steam the eggs and vacuum everything. Bug free for two months so far.

fascist___hag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:15:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's just me in my house and I'm so gdamn tired of dealing with things on a DYI scale, plus I've got a good working relationship with my exterminator now since he's been to my house for various other reasons now. It says something that he thinks my house is clean enough to order cupcakes from me so I'll take it lol.

That's great that you've been free and clear! You didn't mention bagging your mattress - I got this one after everything was treated in case you haven't/need a recommendation. Fingers crossed for both of us that we don't have any recurrences!

NeedsNewPants ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:00:06 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Only reason why I didn't bag it was because for some reason they can't burrow into my morgedal mattress from ikea. The only place that had bugs were the slats.

PoppetFFN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:38:06 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, I keep my house clean and we had an infestation. I think my kid got them from his soccer back pack/gym. But we treated the room..like so much he is probably sterile now. and haven't had any since then. (a year ago) But that said, I bought a sweet sectional sofa off craigslist. It's huge and cloth. I just checked it good. I'm not buying anything new till all my kids move out, they can be destructive critters.

craftygamergirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:24:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't realize for the longest time as my bites didn't show for some reason.

Most people don't show the bites because they don't have allergies to the bites. I'm highly allergic and develop enormous welts. It's awful but at least I have visible proof.

FucksGuysWithAccents ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

As someone who used to travel non-stop and is currently picking up the hobby again, I can totally relate :-(

Keeping all of your dirty clothes in a hamper (and never on the floor) and constantly washing your bedding are the only things one can do in this situation.

VaticinalVictoria ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:37:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've lived in an apartment with bedbugs before, so I will tell you from firsthand experience that there is no furniture or savings worth that risk in my opinion. It was an awful experience, and I still have nightmares about bed bugs a couple times a year. I live in a major city and know a few people that are pretty well off that have gotten bed bugs. Target and IKEA have inexpensive furniture that will work for at least a couple years while you save up for something nicer.

Daemon_Monkey ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:18:19 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Don't go too cheap. There are distinct tiers in Craigslist ads. Look for someone selling multiple items, with good English. If you're really worried talk to a neighbor of theirs.

You could also try thrift stores, sometimes they sell new but factory second type furniture. You'll get a small blemish and save hundreds.

E145tic5 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 12:15:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The 3 people I know who had bed bugs were NYC professionals who spoke perfect English, made good money (2 had cleaning ladies), and lived in neighborhoods most Americans could not afford. The idea that bed bugs only infest poor neighborhoods or are in the apartments of dirty people is a mistake you may live to regret! People don't talk about having to get rid of bed bugs because there is shame around having them because of the idea that you must be dirty if you have them. All three of these people probably picked them up on business trips/ vacations where they stayed in nice hotels. That's not to say you can't get a nice used couch from Craigslist, but buyer beware.

2boredtocare ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 12:51:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This thread is cracking me up. As a female, I'm leery of communicating with strangers IRL from a craigslist transaction...I'm certainly not going to go talk to their neighbors for pete's sake. I cannot even fathom how that conversation would go down. Not to mention, most people have never even been inside their neighbor's houses, so how in the hell would they know the bed bug situation?

My brother is a doctor, his wife is a PhD. Their kid got lice a few years back, even though they went to a stupidly expensive, elite, private school, and their house is immaculate.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:32:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

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2boredtocare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly! Also, I read way too many posts on r/unresolvedmysteries, and figure that at least if I get murdered by the craigslist seller, there's a clearer trail of my last steps. lol. If the neighbor is a psycho serial killer, that case is probably going cold.

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Miss_Cil ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:47:51 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

This is a bit misinformed. Public housing infestations occur typically b/c of condensed housing and landlords who won't take immediate action b/c they know they can get away with avoiding extermination for xyz period. The problem gets worse; people are in close quarters and the problem spreads. Furthermore, when the bugs are chased out of one apartment-- they can travel through outlets and walls into another so it's a cat and mouse game since the landlords don't typically treat the entire building b/c it's cost prohibitive. You hear about it in poorer neighborhoods because when it gets to an unbearable level, people do anything for help. They reach out to news outlets or seek legal help etc. Wealthier patrons are not immune. They just keep it quiet. They don't want the stigma attached if they do have an infestation.

Bed bugs are a problem period. Socioeconomic status has little to do with source or concentration.

Spitsucker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:33:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Check furniture stores that have slight defects that they sell cheap. Sometimes a color is off or a cushion has a crooked seam etc. You can get a pretty sweet deal if you are open to color and style.

violetmemphisblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If you don't care what it looks like, you can get office furniture like couches for much less than the residential style. They're what you would find in the waiting area or whatever, so not always the prettiest or most comfortable (usually less padding) but something to think about. Don't go to a big box office store like Staples, just check to see if your area has an office specialty furniture store.

2boredtocare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:45:34 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Are there any locally-owned furniture stores in your area? My friend just scored two new couches from their clearance section for under $1000. Another friend got her sectional sofa and an additional chaise for around $1000 because there was some defect (only noticeable once pointed out, and didn't hinder her family from using or enjoying). Sometimes people return things to the store, and they get marked down.

Yuktobania ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Check out your local Big Lots; they're a store that takes inventory other stores couldn't sell. Definitely some decent prices on furniture to be had, especially during holidays.

There are two things you should never buy used: mattresses and lounge furniture (couches/sofas/sectionals/recliners)

SnowKitten09 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We got our coach from Big Lots during a 20% off deal. We moved into our first place and didn't have a couch for the first few weeks because we were waiting for that specific sale. It was worth the wait because we saved a few hundred dollars. It's not the best quality, but it will work for a few years. We have a 5 year old who will probably end up breaking the couch in a few years anyway.

sturaberry ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:32 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If you have good credit, I suggest opening a line of credit with Macys and buying your furniture there. You'll have 12 months to pay it off interest free...not a bad idea. My parents bought 2 recliners and paid it off in 10 months at a rate of $150 a month. I think if they waited to save enough money first it would have taken them much longer.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 11:25:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I guess looking for signs of them. Or if youโ€™re worried take it somewhere to get treated & cleaned on the way home. Probably much cheaper than buying new still.

1000121562127 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 11:16:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I think the problem with Craigslist (not my problem, everyone else's!) is that so many people assume that every CL transaction ends with you getting brutally murdered. At least this is what happens in my life. I assure people though that Craigslist is full of people who have something to sell who are looking for someone to purchase it. End of story.

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skyshadow42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:10:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If not murdered, at least jacked around. The last few times I have tried to buy something on craigslist have all end up being complete run-arounds, scams or general wastes of time.

I'm not the /r/frugal type, as some point it quickly wasn't worth my time anymore.

Yuktobania ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:01:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

They don't end with you getting brutally murdered, but they do begin with all logic getting brutally murdered when they think that the blender they paid $70 for in 1995 is still worth $60.

HansWilhelm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:30:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've gotten two cars and the two different places I've rented over the course of about 4 or 5 years (military, then move) off of Craigslist. Worked out well each time.

Rebornxshiznat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:24:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yup.. my mom has an eye for good stuff on craigslist. Got my first home earlier this year... just had her find stuff for me and I gave her the cash to buy it. Got a ton of stuff super cheap..

italiangreenbeans ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 11:20:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

DO NOT BUY A COUCH ON CRAIGSLIST.

I got what I had assumed was a great deal on a couch on Craigslist. $250 and the woman threw in a recliner chair. It was clean and undamaged. She said she was moving to New York and couldn't bring it.

Bed bugs.

$250 for the couch. $600 for an exterminator. $750 for a new couch.

gt35r ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 12:39:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

A one time bad buy/experience isn't a good enough reason not to save yourself thousands of dollars. You just have to be diligent in checking the couch out and where it's coming from before.

Yuktobania ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:59:31 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And if you fuck up, and miss that one egg in the corner of the couch cushion, then you've got bed bugs, and you've just cost yourself hundreds in exterminator fees and in new furniture. Just because you can buy a couch from craigslist that minimizes your risk doesn't mean you should.

There are very few furniture items that you should buy used, but couches/bedding (not the frame) are two of them.

TSOD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:51 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Bed bugs are pretty easy to spot if you know what you're looking for. Just got a couch and loveseat on Craigslist for $25, made sure the home it was coming from was clean, checked for bedbugs, and then rented a steam cleaner. Now I have two couches for about $65.

GGking41 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:44:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Do you never worry about Bed bugs? I used to buy thrift and used furniture until someone I know got bed bugs and I saw how horrible it was and how much it destroyed their lives.

Nernox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:04:21 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Or just do your research and save up a bit. I've found two or three pieces from Ikea that have had solid reviews for ages where people do comment on how long it's lasting and how well it's holding up. Unless you need a particular style, finding an item like this is your best bet because you can have a basic couch for $500-600 with no bed bugs that won't fall apart on you in a year, with someone else bringing it to your house, relatively stress free.

__wampa__stompa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:13:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I outfitted my apartment in Chicago using Craigslist furniture from people in the loop/ near north side. $100 and a moving van for two rooms worth of furniture. This was 3 years ago, and I still use the high-quality, $10 leather couch.

sonicboomslang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:08:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We just got a $1500 almost new sectional couch for $400 from CL. It can take some time to find the good deals, but definitely worth it. Only problem is I once got robbed and tortured and killed using CL, but you take the good with the bad.

hoodatninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:18:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

People who scoff at Craigslist don't actually understand what it is/never have used it. I'm surprised you know many people like that.

Vaulter1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:57 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Couldn't agree more - especially about the successful neighborhoods in big cities. I recently paid $300 for a Crate and Barrel sleeper sofa that retails for $1500. A couple who was moving apartments said it just didn't 'fit the decor' of their new place. They even had the receipt from their purchase 2 months prior.

ChargedPluto64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:50 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I just moved to a new city and my boyfriend and I managed to furnish our entire apartment for about $60 ( less than that if you count what we sold). We got a sofa, love seat, and recliner combination, outside patio table and bar stools, indoor bar stools, desk, and storage cube thing. We used offer up and letgo though. Love those apps now! Like everyone has been saying, don't buy soft stuff from weird smelling places, and only from nice neighborhoods. Our soft stuff was a high quality fake leather, so we just lysolled the shit out of it prior to brining it in.

Sam_I_Am_I_Is ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:43:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I love the reactions I get from people when I talk about something new-to-me that I got, looks like it's in decent shape, and then tell them it came from the free section. When you're looking for something, you gotta check multiple times a day and just be patient.

I recently got a decent, albeit compressed wood, L-shaped office desk for free. Guy already had it taken apart, just wanted it gone. I took an hour of time to go pick it up. The top was a little fucked so I got some peel and stick vinyl flooring tiles from Lowe's and gave it a new top. It's fucking beautiful to me and I've only invested about $25+time.

cocoamunckies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:48:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Or you can think, more for the rest of us! Almost everything in my new apsrtment came from craigslist. I spent a lot of time searching nice neighborhoods for furniture. Saved a ton of money and bought a lot of great pieces I wouldn't have been able to afford otherwise!

TMN8R ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:54:19 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is so true! My SO and I moved across country for work a few years ago and sold most of our stuff for dirt cheap.

With that kind of a move you have to consider the cost of shipping each item of furniture, which is nearly the same price as buying new furniture when you arrive. At that price point, any cash you can make instead by selling on Craigslist is a win.

LifeIsHardAndSoAmI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:04:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

In the UK we have Gumtree which is effectively the same thing I think. I just moved house and managed to get a washer/dryer for ยฃ100 nearly new. Works great and got it for a less than a third of the price I was considering paying for it new. Some discretion needs to be used obviously but these websites can be a great resource. Facebook marketplace pages can be good too.

Atomheartmother90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My mom uses this Facebook group that's like Craigslist and a bunch of the stuff in my house and my parents house is from cheap deals on there

hikerbikerCO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have bought and sold so much furniture on Craigslist! Even ikea can add up when you're furnishing and new place and you can find barely used ikea at half the price on Craigslist!

Plenty of my friends are scared of Craigslist, but be smart and safe. There's so many great deals out there (and plenty of crap) and both ends are happy! One gets to get rid of furniture and at least make some money back instead of lugging it to a dumpster and the other gets some nice furniture for cheap! Obviously, avoid the posts that say "I'm a serial killer" /s. But do be safe and make sure you are comfortable about the situation/terms when meeting up.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:02 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've only used Craigslist once but got a $1000+ Herman Miller Aeron brand new (it was unpacked and setup but still had plastic you peel off) for $250. Sure, I likely won't have warranty on it, but totally worth it in my opinion.

beniceorbevice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You most definitely do, for big expensive companies like that it shouldn't matter if you have receipts or not, even if it was given to you for free they will honor their product, just be nice to the people and act like you did have money to buy it

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

With HM you need to provide some information to claim warranty:

Product number (from manufacturing label)

FO number date (from manufacturing label)

Manufacture date (from manufacturing label)

Description of issue

This chair doesn't have a manufacturing label on the underside, though I'm 100% sure it's authentic. The guy I bought it from very clearly worked for a office furniture company, so I would be surprised if he ordered a few extra chairs for projects and sold them off on the side. There was a whole debacle with HM suing unauthorized resellers of their furniture.

That's not to say I wouldn't give it a shot if something did break on the chair.

ThetaDee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's generally a hit or miss in my city. College move-out time is usually pretty good pickins especially since a lot of it is free. The rest of the year it's generally white trash trying to make a quick buck so they can get some meth.

Im_Not_Mr_Fantastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:20 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Facebook market place is also a quick access God send... Pretty much everything in my apartment is second. Excluding 1 small work desk and 2 computer chairs from Wal-Mart. Couch. Bed. Entertainment center. Coffee table. Side tables. Dressers. Even my damn car 2010 Nissan with less than 50k at purchase. And all of this (which is exceptionally high end) which was sniped over time for less than 8K.

rugbysecondrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:11 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My wife and I both have strong 6 figure incomes, and we still shop Craigslist. Remember the Millionaire Nextdoor book? Same principle.

ThatIsMrDickHead2You ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My wife and I move regularly and there are always a bunch of things, including nice furniture pieces, that are surplus to requirements. As selling them is too much of a hassle we advertise on the "free stuff" section so if you need things make sure to check it out (also if you get stuff given too you turn up when you say you will and don't ask for it to be delivered!)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:07 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have a killer black cabinetry thing that I found on Craigslist that holds wine glasses and such.... I polished it up and everyone always ask me where I got it.... it looks like me a 800-1200 dollar piece.

Nope. 180 on Craigslist.

Maadvillain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:06:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

i live in silicon valley and some of the stuff here is gold. startups going under with $200 aerons, $150 adjustable standing desk...all relatively new condition

Wuhtthewuht ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I found my partner on Craigslist. I'm definitely an advocate:). I posted an ad for a roommate 3 years ago and he was the first to respond....we've since moved to NYC together and are planning our wedding.

xrat-engineer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, I know I'm lucky, and I do use craigslist/craigslist free, but half of the furniture in my 6 person house has been "I drive by the neighbors the day before trash day and take what I want out of the garbage".

People by me throw out the craziest shit.

EnterpriseArchitectA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've bought and sold several things over the years on Craigslist, but the last few times I tried to us it, all I encountered were scammers.

ReverendDizzle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I get stupid good deals off Craigslist. Like obscenely good, nobody even believes me, good deals. I got a $3000 outdoor dining room set for $150 because the people that bought it didn't understand what teak was or how to take care of it.

Bananapepper89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I buy almost everything used; tools, cars, computers TV, kitchenware, etc. Saves us so much money and you can't even tell most of the time.

dairyqueen79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I follow a few University classified pages on Facebook. The shit that undergrads just give away is insane. Some serious deals to be had. Add in haggling, and youโ€™ve saved some serious coin.

gazeebo88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

People get rid of perfectly good stuff for free, simply for the convenience of making space for something new or for a move.

It'd be stupid NOT to take advantage of that.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:32 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've furnished multiple apartments and now my condo with lots of online classifieds furniture. Nobody has a clue until I tell them the $2300 west elm sectional in my living room I actually picked up from some rich folks for $400. (not that I would ever actually pay $2300 for a sectional, but it is a nice one)

DarkoGear92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:32 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I actually have had better experience watching for sales on TVs. Got my current Insignia 32 inch for less than $80 brand new, about what my last 2 32 inch used LG TVs cost used and lasted less than a year. Old CRT TVs last forever, but newer LED TVs have a life expectancy.

kfmush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:57 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

One of the best jobs I ever had I found through Craigslist. Lots of expensive things for cheap, too, like aquariums and even computer parts. Even found legit apartments (didn't move in, but toured them) Craigslist is great. Even big businesses and recruiters post ads there alongside all the little people. You can find everything on Craigslist.

The only thing is that you do have to be a little bit smarter. It's easy to get ripped off and sometimes people selling things or buying things are not the most savory of sorts. Someone was recently murdered over shoes in a Craigslist deal where I live, for instance.

One has to be smart and meet in a public place and get a feel for the person through the conversation before the meeting. Bring a friend if you feel sketchy. Stuff like that. There's no regulation nor any safe guards, so you "swim at your own risk."

HoaryPuffleg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My issue with Craigslist (or any online newspaper ad sorta thing) is that people are flaky as hell. I don't have the time to keep rescheduling to go pick up an end table or to sell a bed frame. I just want to walk into Goodwill, see something and buy it.

Keto_Kidney_Stoner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:51 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I got a brand new full mattress and box springs from craigslist. Came with a sad story (girl bought it to move in with her bf, he went to study abroad), but hell. 60 bucks.

mainlydank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:11 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Bed bugs will cost you much more than your saving on furniture. However this is mostly with couches, chairs, etc. Bit harder for them to hide in solid wood pieces.

In all large cities bed bugs are a serious problem.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Hell yeah, Craigslist.
Several years ago I got a wrap around "u-shaped" desk with a hutch and file cabinet for $30.
It was a lawyer, who sold his house, needed it out by a certain date, and didn't care. He just wanted it gone.

Cisco904 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have 2000 bucks in washer and drier i paid 550 for (and a whole spare washer also) from facebook market place an craigslist. Ive found I have a really hard time buying new things now

Eyeseeyou01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:42 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I agree about the furniture but regarding the tv, and owning tvs or electronics with a bad battery or a loose wire or any electronics that can appear to not be broken for even a couple of hours, you never know how long or how much longer a TV will last or function in a useful way. A couple hundred dollars is a couple hundred dollars not to mention the time and gas it would take to pick up and re connect or get rid of a broken tv.

aerbourne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:27 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It gets even worse as a dumpster diver lol. Most everyone laughs about it...little do they know like a third of the perfectly new looking stuff in my apartment came out of the trash

yingyangyoung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:27 on September 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

People scoff at me when I get free furniture off the side of the road or near the dumpster, but living in apartments people are constantly moving and throwing out really new stuff. I just recently got a solid oak butcher block kitchen table where the top was stained, missing varnish, paint marks, etc. Spent an afternoon sanding, another afternoon finishing with stain and polyurethane and it looks brand new now!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:06 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I coordinate international assignments, if you give an assignee the choice of a shipment or a cash sum to purchase furniture, unless they are a family of 5 or going for a full 5 years they ALWAYS take the cash.

Which means when they are then repatriated 1-2 years later, or moved on to another country, they just give away the items the week they leave as its cheaper than paying someone to take them away.

loftizle ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 09:08:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I did the same for basically next to nothing, the added bonus is that because I have a young daughter I'm not stressing over little things being damaged (inevitable with kids).

Likeapuma24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:29:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My wife & I bought a few nice pieces of furniture when we started living together. Kept it in immaculate shape.... Until we had a kid. One kid, another on the way, & 2 dogs... We won't be buying anything new and/or nice for some time. Which I'm cool with. Though I really want a nice leather La-Z-Boy chair one of these days.

hellofellowstudents ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:12:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Showerthought - now that the US population is flatlining, should the demand for new furniture be steadily dropping, since most furniture doesn't depreciate a whole tonne.

moose171717 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Estate sales are great, as are auctions. I bought a Thomasville bedroom set for 225 bucks that was valued at over a grand. Obviously, you have to have a little more control at an auction, or you'll overbid on something, but you can get great deals there. Craigslist too. I bought a solid maple dining room table, with 6 chairs and two leaf extensions for 70 bucks and it was in perfect condition. When it comes to solid wood furniture, used isn't necessarily a bad thing.

SusanTheBattleDoge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My dad bought couches that we used for like, at most two or three weeks and when we moved they didn't fit the theme of the new house but nobody wanted the couches. He went from trying to sell them to just listing them as free. We finally just have them to my brother for his new place

rtb001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We bought our dining room table, chairs, china cabinet, server table off Craigslist. I went and looked at a couple of sets costing around 1500 and started with the newer set, but ended up buying the 2nd set from a retiring couple who bought it new in the 80s.

Reason is that I think with modern day consumer culture mixed with everyone wanting lots of fancy looking stuff, actual quality has gone down significantly. The newer set looked fancy in the pictures but wood quality was not as good and parts were starting to warp after just a few years. The older set felt like it was carved of of a giant oak tree and every drawer operated like new. The glass plants in the China cabinet were as thick as my pinky finger. Everything just oozed quality even though the furniture was almost as old as I am!

Basically you can't even get this level of furniture if you just went around value city, Ashley's etc, even if you spent thousands of dollars for their higher end stuff. Other furniture I got at Costco (I too am not willing to buy bedding and sofa or clist) seemed better made by still are more expensive and less nice than that dining set. I think you'd have to pay at low 5 figures for a new dining set with sand level of workmanship.

divisibleby5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:54 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Us too, everything except the TV , the mattresses And the bookshelf which was in my old childhood bedroom came from craigslist. My favorite is the Craigslist sofa that was $1500 new and came from neimans , sat in storage for five years while old owner was in military now its mine for $200 bucks because old owner had to GTFO

Floppie7th ยท 161 points ยท Posted at 06:06:34 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This doesn't sound crass at all. The family will likely appreciate more people showing up to buy their loved ones' stuff because (A) more demand drives the price up, and (B) it's kinda nice in a way to see that their loved ones' material belongings are desirable.

On the other side, you're probably still getting an amazing deal.

Turbo_MechE ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 07:28:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And C they don't have to move it out

[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:39:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

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ouroborostwist ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 07:47:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's a step up from a bunch of vulture relatives fighting over who gets the big ticket items.

akohlsmith ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 11:00:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Look at it this way: if it was that big a deal the people holding the estate sale would keep all their loved one's stuff to avoid the "plundering". It's being sold because they've already gone through and kept what they want.

About 5y ago I bought an air compressor, drill press and arc welder from a sweet little old lady whose husband had recently passed. I got everything for $200, including a bunch of accessories for painting vehicles. She was VERY happy her husband's tools were going to someone who'd use them, as opposed to going to scrap or trash.

There's no shame in buying used, even from estate sales. I'm not sure why you'd try to attach "creep" or "ick" factors to doing so.

Catgirllewis ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:45:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Lots of estate sales here are because they are retiring, moving or divorcing. Very few I've been to are because someone passed away.

roomandcoke ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:27:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

There are two types of people, the kind that don't want to let anything go after a loved one dies because of manufactured sentimental value and end up hoarding it in their basement or a storage unit, no use to snykne, and people who are really happy to see their loved ones' items appreciated and live on in a second life, and subsequently help their loved ones live on too.

The former do not hold estate sales. The latter have already claimed the things they truly want and are practical about the things they don't.

OkImJustSayin ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:56:03 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Because people are brainwashed zombies who think everything has to be neatly packaged in plastic wrap and brand new otherwise it has aids-ebola-bedbug-ghosts that will destroy your life.

2t1me ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 09:52:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The alternative is that I have to pay people to haul it away. Speaking as someone who has had to clean out relatives homes after they've passed, we were pained to not have a place for nice things they'd collected, and were happy to see them go to new homes with people who appreciated them. The money raised went toward things like college tuition for younger family members. We made discounts and were more flexible with pricing for young families, military, etc. What didn't sell we donated to a local church to raise money at their rummage sale. It doesn't have to be negative.

9bikes ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 12:54:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The whole estate sale thing just gives me bad vibes.

I'm just the opposite. I'm both a frequent estate sale shopper and someone who had to sell the extra things from my mother's house after she passed away.

Estate sales are a true win/win. The buyers get bargains. The sellers get cash and help getting the home emptied.

SailingShort ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 07:54:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

But it's better if they go through the dead relatives' stuff in a thrift store after it's been donated?

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:12:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

They made the decision to hold an estate sale. If they didn't want people going through their dead relatives things, they'd find another option. There's nothing crass about it. That's just how life works.

OzCommenter ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:50:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

But there's also the flip side -- of the family worried that they're going to have to cart a bunch of stuff that may have sentimental value to them, to the tip, and they're GLAD when they find someone who is really enthusiastic about a few pieces. I bought some dinette chairs and a small lingerie cabinet from the 40's from an estate sale for $70 total, and they asked what kinds of knick-knacks I liked, because they had plenty of knick-knacks to get rid of... I told them I'd just moved into my first place in a new city with 8 boxes of stuff and had nothing, and would appreciate kitcheny stuff like jugs or serving utensils or bowls... they brought 2 bags worth, and I still use ALL of it a few years later.

I'll admit I'm like the poster about 2nd hand soft furniture, don't want to deal with the possibility of bugs/pee/baby puke, but 2nd hand clothing and bedlinens that can be washed, hard furniture, and kitchen stuff that can be washed is all fair game for me. Heck, even most of my IKEA is from Craigslist - the win being that it's usually at least partially assembled and costs a bit less than buying the flatpack new.

ladylattemotif ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:42:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If they didn't want to hold an estate sale, they wouldn't do it. Of course you shouldn't "plunder"; say hello respectfully, offer condolences if any conversation takes place, maintain an even expression (no frowning or head shaking when you decide against an item), keep your voice respectfully low, ask before picking up items to inspect, or looking underneath larger pieces. Do not allow yourself to be heard discussing any "flipping" or potential resale prices; even if this is what you'll be doing, maintain the polite illusion that the items have been seen going to a good home (but answer any questions honestly; perhaps the bereaved feel it's particularly important that the antique rocking horse is played with and not collected). Offer sincere thanks when you leave. If you do want to haggle, do so respectfully and without fuss, but you may want to avoid it on the first day of the sale.

The last thing the bereaved relatives want is to throw things away. They probably feel that selling them to a good home is far less traumatic.

Johann_Gamblepudding ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:39:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe an online, eBay-style estate sale is for you? Linky Linky If it helps you cope with the idea, quite a few estate sales are a "moving cross-country, selling nearly everything" sale, rather than "someone we know died, let's sell all their stuff" sale.

AphroditeBean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:42 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My in-laws have a crap ton of "collectibles" (collectible to them at least) and knick knacks. We've already told them that when they die we are basically having an estate sale to get rid of most of it. We already know their material belongings aren't very desirable...to us. Perhaps they would be of value to someone else though. It would also save us the hassle of dealing with it all later.

hagndaz04 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

True facts. My grandma had like three of everything, so after we sorted out all that we wanted, we had a garage sale. It was awesome to see all her things going to people who would use them and appreciate them like she did.

My grandma loved frilly, lacy things and decorated a bunch of pillowcases and sheets. At the garage sale, a grandma came and bought a bunch to surprise her granddaughter who also liked frilly, lacy things. It was super heartwarming.

Robdiesel_dot_com ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 11:11:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

at risk of sounding crass... estate sales

Not at all! When my rent was $350/month as a poor kid making $8/hour in Los Angeles, dead people did me wonders.

New fridge, new beds from their guest bedroom etc. Don't see it as crass, but rather giving money to an estate for crap THEY don't care about but you can use.

Mutually beneficial thing, that.

micro-brews-therin ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 08:04:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I buy stuff from estate sales all the time but I have to make up a story where I got it or my wife will be convinced it's haunted

hutacars ยท 146 points ยท Posted at 10:12:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

"Honey, you didn't get that from an estate sale, did you?"

"No, I scavenged it from an abandoned mental hospital"

"Oh ok"

Daxx22 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:10:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I buy stuff from estate sales all the time but I have to make up a story where I got it or my wife will be convinced it's haunted

Apparently we married the same woman. Endlessly frustrating at times :|

ivymikey ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 10:55:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Do people still do those? When I was a kid, my mom would take me around to estate sales every weekend. She'd have the local paper with addresses circled and we'd make a (looong) day of it. A few years back, I was looking in the paper to find some ads but just couldn't find any. Where can one find ads for these nowadays?

jcaliff ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 11:37:38 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

https://www.estatesales.net/ That's the main web site for most these days. They also have an app. I go browsing once or twice a month.

LloydVanFunken ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:38:10 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

Craigslist since the ad is free. Also,

  1. Shopgoodwill.com can be a goldmine.
  2. Church rummage sales.
  3. Swap meets
  4. Flea Markets

edit: 5. Your local Habitat for Humanity/ Restore

SaraBayou ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:25:50 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Upvote for Shopgoodwill. It's their ebay type site for their nicer donations. I like to go there just to browse. You can find some very unique things. Also, band instruments.

7_t_7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:43:03 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I sort of hate Shopgoodwill, between that and the general upward direction of their prices, it has become next to impossible to find a bargain in their brick-and-mortar stores. I do most my thrifting at places run by local charities now.

Johann_Gamblepudding ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:41:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is an online estate auction site that I use. There may be a location near you.

meatbag84 ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 07:20:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Estate sales are tricky for finding deals, in my area a bunch of companies run a lot of the estate sales and the prices aren't much of a bargain. Sure, the advertising is good ahead of time, but you aren't going to get the deal you really want. Think of it this way, an estate sale is usually run by a company or the family that is looking to get the most money out of an estate. Whereas a yard sale is for getting rid of clutter.

Stick to Craigslist and yard sales imo.

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Fachoina ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 13:02:07 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have to imagine there are lots of goods that are easier to steal and sell than couches, I'd bet the situation was legit but strange (extra inventory, bulk sale, etc.)

robertwwwwr ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:06:22 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'd think so too.... but there was this one commercial by State Farm showing exactly that kind of theft.

Probably because it was suede.

Drunken_Dino ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:05:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Agree about Craigslist being sketchy, but I think your story is probably just explained by a super who manages a lot of units. They probably have high turnover and extra space, so anything that people leave after they move out (or are evicted) they just toss in the unit that's waiting for a Reno and try to flip for some cash on Craigslist. The pics you saw are probably from the unit that was vacated

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lindsay88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:02 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

In a college town, I would pick up as many pieces of furniture as I could from the curb in May when people got rid of them, then sell them in August when everyone moved in. There was a good 2 months where I had random tables and shelves stacked in the middle of my apartment. Maybe he did something similar?

2t1me ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 09:55:21 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Not necessarily. When we did my Uncle's estate, we were mostly trying to empty (some good stuff) out of the house to sell it. Instead of looking for estate sale ads, check with local real estate agents. We let stuff go way cheap, because we didn't want to burn time.

lemskroob ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 11:21:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Estate sales are tricky for finding deals,

The big 'Fuck You' to estate sales is when they seem to always start them on a Thursday and a Friday. This basically ensure all the best items get picked up by the 'professionals' (dealers, shop owners, resellers) before you can get there on a Saturday. By the time the doors open on Saturday morning, the average person is already picking over the leftovers.

lowercaset ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:31:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I would imagine they do that on purpose, the pros on both sides (sellers and buyers) probably have worked together a lot and know what a fair sale price for the item is.

TheBookDealer ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 11:10:42 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Nearly everything in my house is from various estate sales or yard sales. Guests often say my house feels like grandpa's house, but I accept and embrace that aesthetic.

If this stuff doesn't break... Might just keep it forever. Why pay for upgrades if what you find for $5 is beautiful?

b33r_engineer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:19:06 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And a lot of the old furniture that you find at estate sales was built to last. Real hardwood in the frame, none of this MDF/particleboard crap. And if you don't like the cloth it's upholstered with, reupholstering a couch or chair is cheaper than buying an equivalent quality new item, generally.

Saratrooper ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:39:20 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My parents have a couch that my 68 year old dad grew up with that his grandparents originally bought in the 1900s. That 100+ year old couch is still going strong and they reupholster it every so often. I can't wait to inherit that couch.

TheBookDealer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:42:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I totally agree. Nothing from Ikea will last... and imo, ikea furniture just looks and feels cheap. If given the choice between a $1200 ikea kitchen set and a $50 1960's kitchen set.... I would choose the 60's any day.

JonMeadows ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:24:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Who knows man maybe some couches are only good for 51, maybe 52 years. Then you're looking at a pretty seriouth problem

Thatguy8679123 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:02:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

No joke, had to google "crass". And no you didn't sound "lacking sensitivity, refinement, or intelligence. "the crass assumptions that men make about women" google.

On that note not to sound crass. If you need tools, look up bank auctions for shops in your area. Happen to see a few of them. Can get great deals on tools.

Side note, wasnt making fun, just wanted to use my new work in context :)

SpaceGhost1992 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:40:20 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

College student here. Got a couch, recliner, coffee table and kitchen table for $200 because of an estate sale my grandmother told me about. Saved my life when I was moving away

Talks_in_meme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:44:08 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's not crass at all. Someone having an estate sale might not be deceased, the company I worked with recently said that in the last few years they've had more and more people doing "living" estate sales.

Also if it is because someone died the executor really wants you to buy the stuff because if not the last resort is to sell to junkers who come pick it up and pay next to nothing. So really you're doing them a favor by giving them more than $.50 for that bookcase you bought for $20.

9bikes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:44:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

estate sales. I've got a bunch of solid oak furniture built in the 50's

We have not a single piece of furniture that we bought new.

Our stuff is much nicer than anything we could have bought new for 3 times the price.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:52:32 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing crass about getting a table and chairs that originally cost a grand for $25 bucks off someones front lawn.

If you've ever even looked at how much new coffee tables cost, its insane.

HenryTCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:51 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We got a ton of what we have for tools and yard at estate sales, lawn tractor and push mower on Craigslist (there are guys who refurbish them and sell) and have only bought a few things new.

Husband bought a new DeWalt drill (maybe $200 and came with 2 batteries) and a few other things, but otherwise? Extension ladder for $50. Massive pry bar thing for $6. Vise, $5. Shelves for his tool shed, about $3 each. It adds up. He's a genius, and I'm rubbish at yard and home stuff...I'm a lucky girl.

OnTheEveOfWar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:41:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Agree. I've got this awesome solid oak dresser that was $100 at an estate sale. Must have cost a fortune to buy new. It's in great shape and I will probably have it for a long time.

TheBeetsMotel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Not crass at all. I just discovered the world of estate auctions. The first one I went to had an entire Pzaltgraf set. I'm kicking myself for not staying longer and buying all of it. If you're in the US, I believe the site is auctionzip or something like that.

turningsteel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:05:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Hey its not like theyre gonna need the furniture anymore. Nothing crass about estate sales. Its smart shopping. Plus usually you can find really neat things.

TheEvilMetal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:06:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

A coworker got a $1000 dresser for around $100 when some place had their stuff repossessed. She explained that it's probably more than they'd end up after seizing it, transporting it, storing it (and paying storage fees) until auction where some random guy would buy it cheap anyways.

ThePermMustWait ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I picked up a beautiful wood China cabinet for $80 at Salvation Army. My friend sent me a photo of the exact cabinet she saw at an estate sale for $450.

TacticalTrousers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:43:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My mom bought everything in her house from estate sales. She did it in really fancy neighborhoods. Rich people die too, and most of the kids don't want grandma's old furniture. Most of my mom's furniture is mahogany and cherry.

Sometimes it's sad though. I went with her when she bought this super fancy antique China cabinet. The rich guy selling it looked really sad. He said it was his grandmother's, but his new wife was redoing the home in light colored woods. It was cherry. I wish I could send that guy a note to show him how well it's been taken care of, but I have no way of tracking him down.

awkwrdwffls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:54:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Unfortunately we had 2 relatives die right after we bought our house- fortunately they didn't need their furniture anymore so our house was completely furnished for free before we even moved in.

app4that ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:38 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is so the way to go. I vividly remember eating take out in our bare living room, soon adding those plastic lawn chairs - it's a good humble way to start off a life together. Estate sale a block away got us a complete dining room set and breakfront (not the wood/finish I might have chosen but only a few years old and solid and in very good condition, and we still have all the furniture) - all for around $200. Our empty home soon got furnished at a price a young couple could easily afford.

Walk around your new neighborhood and talk to your new neighbors. Check the usual suspects online too. Great deals have a way of coming to people who are patient and on a budget.

Dandelion_Prose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:59:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Not crass at all.

I keep trying to convince my SO to let me get a washer and dryer at an estate sale when we finally get a house. They usually only go for around $100. As long as you look it over to make sure it's in working order, most of the older washer and dryers last forever, and usually still have replacement parts floating about online.

Same with furniture. People are passing away at an older age now, so by the time they do, their children or even their grandchildren are already settled. Their descendants might appreciate the good wood and craftsmanship used in their parents dresser, but that doesn't matter if they don't have a place to put it.

Dining room sets, bedroom furniture, freezer, and washer and dryers are almost always for decent prices simply because the children already have them. As long as you're respectful, it's not crass at all.

Sawses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:00:02 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

People sometimes think it's being a vulture to go to estate sales...It's not. These are things that grieving family members either don't want or can't afford to keep. There's nothing wrong with picking up good deals there--it's not manipulating or abusing the family, taking advantage of them, or anything else.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:06 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing crass about it. I had to dispose of my mother's estate and would be glad to know that someone was able to get good use out of her stuff.

Business-is-Boomin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My grandparents gave my wife and I their bedroom set from the early 50s. Nightstands, a long bureau and a tall dresser. All solid oak with glass tops cut to fit. Barely a mark on any of it. Can't get this kind of stuff at Bob's Discount Furniture.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:06 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Make sure to get there right when they open. I didn't know this until I went to a garage sale that had something I really wanted. Showed up at 9 am on Thursday and there were all these guys who just go to garage sales to resell stuff.

special_20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:21 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Bought a house 3 years ago and kind of needed everything. I started hitting up the estate sales and saved so much money kitting out the shop, garage and buying household items slightly used. Have also found some pretty cool art for cheap.

haysanatar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

They don't make good furniture anymore, its all just glued together sawdust. To get something that will last nowadays you have to either buy antiques, or make it.

testiclelice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:28:20 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Estate sales are a godsend to families. Never feel bad or crass suggesting it.

If a relative dies and you dont have the time or ability to go through all their shit, an estate sale is a great service to the family. One less thing to worry about.

getefix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:36:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Good, used furniture is so much better than IKEA or Walmart for the simple reason that it keeps its value. Couches and furniture with springs in them are not great examples, but any tables or bookshelves made of hardwood can be sold for what you buy them for (or more). If you're looking for temporary furniture then consider how you intend to get rid of it when you replace it. It's much better to get money from someone while they take your furniture away, rather than paying a dump to take it and needing to drive it there in a truck that you may or may not own.

djmax101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:25 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This. Solid wood furniture is expensive, but it is worth it in the long run. Also, you usually have motivated sellers in estate sales, so you can really get a good bargain. My wife and I have a big place, and we've largely furnished it from estate sales and Craigslist. We bought a beautiful, mint condition 12 person dining table for $300 provided we came and picked it up - it likely sold in the $2,500-$3,000 range new, but the sellers needed to unload it and there isn't a huge market for such large tables.

Also, estate sales are the go to place for oil paintings. People just want to unload grandma's old art and don't have a good sense of how expensive frames in particular are. My wife sometimes just buys things for the frames.

CleaningBird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:10 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Not crass at all, my friend! When my grandparents passed away, we held an estate auction. That side of the family are auctioneers from way back, so we had a contact to run the auction and sell off a LARGE amount of stuff. See, the thing about being an auctioneer is that you end up acquiring a ton of furniture, jewelry, etc. over the decades from the auctions you run. So my grandparents had multiple dining room sets, cases and cases of antique costume jewelry, God knows what else.

And let me tell ya, literally none of us wanted any of it. We already had our own stuff! None of it was particularly valuable, it was just old! We'd gotten the real jewelry and antiques appraised and divided them evenly among family members who wanted them, but there was still two houses' worth of stuff we had to dispose of. I'm really, really glad we were able to sell it all and have it off our hands, without having to send it all to a landfill, which would not have felt great. There's probably some other family enjoying all that stuff that had sat in a storage shed for years. That's a good thing, and I'm happy for it.

JPINFV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:08 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This x 1000. When I started grad school, it was the first time I was living in an unfurnished apartment. For less than $150 I got a dinning room table with chairs (which was older than I was), a dresser, and a TV table. All were in awesome condition and the only thing I would replace at this point would be the dining room chairs, but I don't use them that often anyways.

Mischeese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, someone I worked with 20 odd years ago gave me some dining chairs she was throwing out when her Mum died. They have been repainted and re-upholstered by me at least 4 times and they always look new. They have gone from being my only dining chairs, to being the extras when we need them now. But have been brilliant as they were free.

qwaszxedcrfv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Or just go to random people's houses and have one person drag their furniture to the curb so it becomes garbage. Have another person then put the garbage in your car. That way it's not stealing.

Source: Trailer Park Boys.

itsmyotherface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:09 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

That's not crass. I call them dead people sales. That's crass.

But seriously, most of my furniture has come from estate auctions (way better than tag sales), a local and very reasonable antique store, and CL. Not necessarily because of money, but because I like MCM.

JigglyBatWings ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 05:10:51 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Not just starter furniture. If you look, good quality furniture can be found at thrift stores, consignment stores, and estate sales.

MeliLew ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 10:39:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely! I got an heirloom buffet for $90 off of craigslist. It's easily worth $1100 but she needed to get rid of it to make room for her own newer thrift finds. It's so freakin' solid...one of those items that stays put until you move out.

HyruleanHero1988 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 10:31:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. I got a really nice dining table for $40 at Goodwill. It was going to just be a starter thing since it was so cheap but it's exactly the style I like, in great condition, it's expandable, basically fits all my needs. I was even able to find chairs to match, but ended up spending like $200 on the chairs.

edcRachel ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:06:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Gotta be dedicated where I live. I rarely see anything but garbage in thrift stores, anything decent on CL is really overpriced or gone immediately. Consignment is hit and miss but a lot of them are super expensive.

JigglyBatWings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:35 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely. It's taken me 7 years to furnish my home. Much of it is vintage. My favorite is a mid-century solid teak china hutch.

The_Foe_Hammer ยท 127 points ยท Posted at 04:53:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Borrow a pickup truck on university move out day. You could furnish an apartment block.

Meandering through upper class neighborhoods around junk day can net you some nice furniture as well.

edcRachel ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 12:05:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man, every year. I got my TV stand from the side of the road when students moved. It's not high quality but it's obviously brand new and in great shape. Also picked up my shoe rack, a brand new space heater still in the box, two large framed mirrors, and other small household items.

I've made it a point to try and go out during student move out week, I wish I had a truck because I've seen some BEAUTIFUL furniture on the side of the road. Really good solid wood wardrobes, dining room tables, sets of dishes, desks. I saw an entire house worth of new furniture, figured they were waiting to load it, but the moving truck pulled away and they just left it all. There was one set of drawers and a coffee table I BADLY wanted but didn't have a way to move them. There are definitely people in trucks just cruising the neighborhood looking for things to grab.

I've been so bummed when it's been stormy the last couple years on move out day, because everything gets wrecked :(

vnilla_gorilla ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:06:02 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is true.

Found my $2000-3500 (depending which model it actually is) chair sitting at the end of someone's driveway.

There were 2 matching chairs, one was in pretty bad shape cushion wise, the other just normal wear and tear. I figure they just got rid of both rather than keeping the single good chair as a loner.

In hindsight I should have taken both and reupholstered the other, but I had know clue what they were at the time.

5 years later and I still sit in this chair daily.

BoneslyGrifter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:22 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I used to make so much money dumpster-diving on move out day. I once scored an entire truck bed full of textbooks and graphing calculators, some still in the packaging. I made over $5000 selling it online. not to mention I've furnished several apartments and once had a really nice Nike athletic shoe collection (someone must have been a sponsored athlete or something, I got five pairs of really high-end Nikes in my size).

lm-hmk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:20 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I love curb finds. I currently have a nice mirrored entryway table in my living room, and I've found countless (decent) dressers, desks, shelves, etc. Not to mention any number of gardening materials: plant pots, etc.

I've also had great luck with Freecycle over the years โ€” but ymmv with that one. Depends on the community. One city I lived in was great; Chicagoland was very much hit or miss. I haven't tried in several years.

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RedNowGrey ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 10:13:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I started with Contemporary Castoff, then worked up to Thrift Store Eclectic, then to Warehouse Sale Style, mixed with K-Mart Classic. In the process, I learned to refinish and upholster furniture. Even now, when I can afford "real" furniture, I still like my rescued treasures best.

240strong ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 09:13:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly, Ikea really isn't all that bad either! Its not as cheap as Goodwill, and I must admit, sometimes you can score some high quality stuff at thrift stores. But I live some of our Ikea stuff. Most of it is that particle board construction, but it looks nice and didn't break the bank.

HyruleanHero1988 ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 10:33:34 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I like to treat furniture like I treat tools. Buy cheap, if it breaks, then buy a high quality expensive version. That way, if it doesn't break, you get a bargain, if it does, then you know you're spending money for a higher quality item where the quality is truly needed.

240strong ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 10:53:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Or also. Buy cheap first.then if you hardly ever use it, you probably won't break it, and probably didn't need it that bad anywho. I buy alot of stuff from harbor freight, but I don't skimp out on the stuff I use often. (I have a nice impact and cordless hammer drill and circular saw, rest is all harbor freight.)

HyruleanHero1988 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 10:55:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That's what I'm saying. Sometimes you think you need the best version of something, but then you don't use it much and probably could have lived with the cheaper version. I think if you employ this strategy across the board, where possible, you'd save money in the long run. Sure it probably sucks every now and then when a tool you just bought breaks, but you're not considering all the cheap stuff you have that hasn't broken, that you could have potentially spent much more on.

240strong ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:58:02 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely! I skimped out on a reciprocating saw from HF and it broke after using it for quite a few projects. I definitely got my money out of that thing tho, I in turn bought a DeWalt one though after having used it for gutting half our basement.

microgrownup ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 11:13:57 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Lol not to mention I get to learn a tool on the cheap HF version so when it's time to upgrade I don't break the makita/milwaukee/dewhatever

r-kellysDOODOOBUTTER ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:39:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely correct. When I see myself trying to justify to myself why I need the power and features of the better tool, and how I'm going to justify it to my SO, I realize that I actually need the cheap one. I should not be a salesman to myself.

Then when it breaks and I need a better one, I tell myself "I told me so!" And get the better one lol.

But really the cheap harbor freight shit that I've bought that hasn't broken has saved me huge money. Even the good shit isn't that good anymore. My father has ran his own construction company and still has corded drills from the 80s that he rebuilds when they break. He spent hundreds on them back then. They are heavy, all metal, no plastic.

The first time I borrowed one from him, it fucked up my wrist, I was not expecting that torque. I was used to my weak walmart shit.

b33r_engineer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:24:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

A friend of mine went to school to be an auto mechanic. He bought every tool he needed from Harbor Freight. If/when a tool broke, he bought the replacement from the Snap-On truck.

Saved thousands over his classmates who just bought everything from Snap-On in the first place, because he didn't have to finance his tools. It's a lot easier to swing $100-200 at a time every couple of weeks than $5-10k all at once, too.

Likeapuma24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:38 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

HF has been my go-to lately. Been diving into restoring a `65 Gravely Tractor & all I had to start was a Craftsman wrench set & some shitty socket set. I've been through HF almost weekly (getting free stuff each time!). Already got their cost out of them, so if/when something breaks, I have no problem spending a bit more on something quality.

Love HF haha. I always end up buying more than I need, & still spend less than $25 (unless power tools are on the list)

poopybunghole69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The thing is most tools are for life if they are treated well and high quality. I might not use a drill right now but might need one when I'm a home owner. I needed a drill to put up some shelves. I bought a cheap 50 dollar electric drill and I can already tell I'm going to want to end up getting a much higher quality drill once I own a house. I ended up using that drill once and probably. Only going to use it a couple more times before I buy a house but I wish I would have just spend the money on a better drill

240strong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:32 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Ya I definitely go the extra mile on cordless drills and impacts. BUT having a cheapo one is nice if you need to loan one to somebody or you go to do something at someone else's house case you forget it.

bethanyb00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I tend to go cheaper with stuff like couches because it's just going to get gross anyway. Also, shelves and accent tables don't need to be nice. But I will splurge on a dresser or a dining set because that stuff takes a lot of abuse.

r-kellysDOODOOBUTTER ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I do this with tools too. I will buy a shit harbor freight tool that I know I'll only use once, because it will be cheaper than paying someone else to do the job. If I use it a lot and break it, time for the real deal.

I bought an electric impact drill for $50 to do an intake gasket on the old jeep. I didn't even know they make electric impacts lol. I fully expect it to not work next time I go to use it, but I got quoted 10 hours of labor for the gasket.

My SO said, "did you really have to buy that tool?" I said, "I could have probably done it without it, buy I saved $1k so I thought I'd make my time less frustrating." (It took me 16 hours).

Honestly I was afraid of breaking a bolt off in the block when I started on it with a breaker bar, so I probably also saved myself an engine by buying it. Must... Justify...

gorkt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This. IKEA stuff is fine for things that donโ€™t get a lot of wear. I have a TV table that was about $50 and works perfectly.

shelteredsun ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 10:37:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Currently typing this on an ikea desk I paid $30 for. It looks nice enough, successfully holds my computer off the ground and I don't have to give any fucks if I dent a leg or spill nail polish on it.

shredderrrrrr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:32:13 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm with you. People always talk about their "solid oak furniture that has survived 75 years" or whatever, but I just don't see why that matters too much. My shitty IKEA table has lasted me for 10 and has no signs of falling apart. Why would it? It's just a table.

ViolaNguyen ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:53:06 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If it looks nice enough, then who cares if you have to replace it two or three times as long as it's 1/20 of the price of a nicer one?

I'll pay a lot for a couple of really nice pieces, like a dining room table, though.

shredderrrrrr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:15:11 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I agree. For me, it's about looks more than it is "longevity" when it comes to something like home furnishings. I mean, hell--I don't want my furniture lasting for 50 years. My taste is going to change frequently in that time. Being able to update everything every 5 years or so sounds much better to me.

shelteredsun ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:43:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Growing up my parents first had a heavy wood dining table that they'd managed to put a coffee pot burn on the first time they used it and could never afford to get sanded and restained, and then they had this mirror black thing that scratched if you so much as breathed on it. So I don't know that I'd buy a nice one since my experience is there's a constant terror about damaging them.

shelteredsun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:34 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Any IKEA stuff you don't have to take apart to move is going to last quite well in my experience. That being said I've taken apart my IKEA bed for a move three times now and it's still holding up, although I can see the particleboard starting to split where I rescrew it each time. I've already had it for 10 years though so by the time it does fall apart I'll definitely be ready for a new style.

240strong ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:54:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I did the cookie cutter butcher block countertop and Alex drawers. It's not bad, I went a different route tho in that we got an actual burger block countertop from a home improvement store that we sanded down,.and stained and coated in poly. Love it.

yeah_sure_youbetcha ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 11:50:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I recently moved from a tiny (like 500 square feet) 2 bedroom apartment to a 3 bed, 2.5 bath, 2 level plus mostly finished basement house. We really wanted our first house to feel like a home so we set a goal of ~$2000 and my wife went room by room picking out furniture and accessories for weeks before actually going to Ikea. At one point her list was approaching $3000, so we took a closer look at what we really needed after we moved what little existing furniture we had and knocked a few things off the list. We ended up around $2500 that we spent. There were a few things that I questioned the need for at the time, but in hindsight am really happy they made the final cut, like the deck furniture, which it turns out I use more than most of the indoor furniture.

What I'm getting at is, Ikea is an awesome inexpensive way to fill your home. We have 2 kids and a dog, so scratches and accidents are going to happen. I would much rather a $150 table be scratched and replace it every 5 years than have a $1000 table that I can't justify replacing so I spend hours refinishing when the inevitable damage happens. We have some IKEA furniture from years before and most has held up well.

dergus ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 12:21:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

YES. People shit on ikea all the time, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. So much of their furniture is very well made despite being very inexpensive. You can buy a particle board bed from ikea for $200, or spend $1000 at sears, and i promise you the ikea one will be more durable. Same with their kitchen cabinets and bathroom vanities, when you compare them to what you would get at home depot or lowes for 2-3x the price, i'll take ikea -anyday-. Obviously you can't compare with custom solid wood construction but you're also talking 5x the price.

I've been using ikea furniture for 20 years, i've never had a single item break on me. none. I don't know what people do with their furniture that they're breaking it, or maybe they're buying the bottom of the barrel ikea stuff. I bought my lack bed 20 years ago, and now my nephew has it, thing cost me $100, still solid as a rock. And ikea give you a metal rod that goes down the middle to hold your lats, and there will be 15 lats. solid. go to sears and look at their $1000 bed frames, lats are fucking mdf, there's only 5 of them, and there's no center support! they give you this block of mdf to put on the floor under your bed to keep the whole thing from collapsing. absolute junk.

thedoodely ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:59:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Ikea is fucking awesome. I've built two kitchens with their cabinets (super easy and yes I'm a female so fuck that study) and they both turned out solid and nice looking. Half of my furniture is Ikea (the rest we bought used or it was given to us), it holding up well and with two young boys I don't have to deal with the stress of them potentially destroying it.

jads ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:20:07 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Golden rule: if it didn't arrive to your house assembled, it's not supposed to leave it assembled.

IKEA gets a terrible reputation which, unfortunately, happens when it's self-assembly. It relies upon the person assembling it to do a) a good job and b) know to disassemble it when moving. I've known plenty of people who have complained about their "cheap crap" from IKEA because they tried to get a huge wardrobe down the stairs and it broke in some way that was easily avoidable.

I like IKEA furniture and some of what we have is from there, including a chest of drawers we got just last month. We had another chest of drawers which lasted years and a move to a different state because we made sure to disassemble what was needed, take the drawers out, etc.

Honestly, IKEA will last just as long as ready-made furniture from similar materials if you look after it, don't rush the assembly, and take it apart whenever you move.

VaticinalVictoria ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:50:08 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We furnished our lake house with a lot of stuff from IKEA. Everything looks amazing, and it's held up well thus far. It's nice to not be worried about anything getting scuffed or messed up because it was all so cheap and could be easily replaced.

elsynkala ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:50:19 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

i have SO much IKEA furniture and its lasted yeaaarrss and moves. a bed that has survived 5(!!!) moves! i actually bought the bedframe second hand, so i got it for $75 and have had it now for over 10 years.

likewise, i have like 8zillion of the expedit units (now kallax) from just acquiring them slowly over the years. have been moved so many times, still hold up super well, and the new inserts and legs have breathed new life into them.

groundhogcakeday ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:05:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

IKEA is great but we couldn't afford that kind of stuff when just starting out. IKEA was our move-up furniture, purchased in our mid 30s once we had some savings in the bank and our student loans mostly paid down.

avenlanzer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:03 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've found used Ikea furniture at Goodwill for higher price than when it was new, so shop both. GW doesn't always research value before assigning a pricetag.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:51 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Ikea is ok for bookcases, throw rugs, cushion covers and tiddy bathroom accessories.

I wouldn't buy anything I wanted to sit on / eat from / store clothes in for longer than a few years. Buy decent stuff, secondhand and learn how to re-upholster / chalk paint.

We went through 5 cheap sofas in the same time as we had (and still have) one decent leather sofa that was given to us as a wedding present.

Yes, its Terry Pratchett's Theory of Boots :) But a secondhand leather sofa will last ten times longer than a new Ikea sofa and not cost much more. And also look cooler and be more comfortable....

Plus its FUN to do up your own stuff in the fabrics and colours you like !

240strong ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:36:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I was all for that stuff, but now I just have no spare time.so I have to pick my battles. Furniture does not make that cut xD (although a.spring broke in our couch [ not an Ikea couch] that I need to fix -_-)

OzCommenter ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:56:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Highly recommended: IKEA tabletop desks and (value per dollar wise) Malm chests. I've got a wall 4-wide of low Malm chests that I basically use as an all-purpose credenza in my studio apartment. My TV sits on it, my electronics charge on it, the most recently used purses sit on it, and washing sits on it before it's put away. Malms break after a few years, but they cost $50 each 2nd hand and until they fall apart, lined up in a row they look pretty high end.

ohmyashleyy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:47:19 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

A few years ago I was looking for a white dresser for my guest room. I looked everywhere - all the local furniture stores, Pottery Barn, etc. Not cheap places. I couldn't quite find what I wanted but ended up at IKEA since it's near my parent's house. I found exactly what I was looking for there and this thing is surprisingly durable. It's not your typical particle board furniture and there's a fair amount of real wood in there. But it also wasn't as cheap as a lot of their stuff. You can get pretty good quality stuff there though.

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 12:35:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My husband deals with bedbugs for a living, and they even get in wood furniture.. not just soft stuff. A lot of people assume because a house is really nice/expensive there's no way things they buy from them will have bedbugs. Not true at all.. he has many clients with multi million dollar homes and bedbugs. One of them has thrown out around 40k worth of furnishings and carpeting at this point because they can't get rid of them!! The house is too large for the usual methods to work. Not worth it. If I buy anything secondhand, he goes with me, inspects it, then heat treats it just to be sure before it ever comes in our house. Even books aren't safe.

Thrift store warehouses are one of the worst places for bedbugs.

jackmanutd ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 10:19:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The thrill of the hunt makes it sound like you've been stalking a table for days so u can wait for a time of weakness and pounce in it and make it into your furniture

WMD_RightChair ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:26:57 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Haha! Sounds like me stalking something I want on Craigslist. Wait for a moment of weakness, i.e. the post is getting old, the price drops, or there's a spelling error in the title so you know no one is finding it.. then pounce!

atworknotworking89 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:16:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also, if you plan on having kids this is the way to go. I just assume that everything I own will have to be replaced eventually, but I'm not spending my money on anything nice until my kids are grown some.

EFIW1560 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:49:32 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is so true and how I furnish our house. We are military and move fairly often. A lot of my peers think they are "above" getting used furniture... I mean if they want to pay thousands for cheaply made furniture then fine, but all my furniture is better quality from when furniture was made of solid wood, and I paid 20 to 50 bucks per piece. I love it and I definitely am one who likes the thrill of the hunt.

sweatlizard ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:31:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

As someone that does pest control please please check for bed bugs. You won't believe how many people bring something into their house unknowingly contaminated and it ends up costing them hundreds.

chap_stik ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 12:42:31 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Do you want bed bugs? Because that's how you get bed bugs.

Seriously, unless you're buying used furniture from a reputable business that has protocols in place to ensure there are no bug infestations, do not buy used furniture. ESPECIALLY anything that is upholstered.

danbuckles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:41:31 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, this seems to have been my mistake. Bought a bunch of used furniture with my most recent move, and surprise, bed bugs!

chap_stik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:21 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Man, that sucks. It seems like it's a good idea when you're saving money on the furniture, but you'll end up paying the difference and then some in order to treat for bed bugs. Or if you're a renter, you might be risking eviction depending upon your lease. It's probably better to buy cheap ikea-type furniture (or just go without certain things) than purchasing used furniture.

JenovaCelestia ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:28:49 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Always take the time to check for bedbugs and other unsavory insects. The thrift stores in my area are notorious for not being thorough in checking for bugs.

uselesstriviadude ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:58:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also Craigslist. My wife and I use it for everything and we furnished our house within a year for probably less than $1000.

spamjavelin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:40:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If you can find a local charity that refurbishes furniture to sell, even better. We have a local place that employs and houses local homeless people to operate that side of the business, so everyone gets some benefit.

frelling_nemo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:08:32 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Hey, we have one of those here! Hometown Thrift; they also house addicts just coming out of rehab.

Ours just renovated from a fire and I found a cockroach on one of the dresses, so I'm a bit more skeptical about buying things there now.

spamjavelin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:17 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Jeebus, that's quite nasty. These guys do furniture and stuff for around the house, like washing up racks and stuff like that, so you can generally get a good look before you buy at least...

Light_bud_up_420 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:54:57 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

thrift stores are a great place to hunt for cheap, starter furniture.

I had a bed bug infestation from buying used furniture, will forever turn me off buying any furniture used.

Zippytiewassabi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:35:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Look for friends/family that are giving it away, i've lived for years with 2nd hand furniture, and buy my, what I call "grown-up furniture" one piece at a time.

Oomeegoolies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:12:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And if you find you can spend money on anything, do yourself a favour and spend it on a good bed/mattress. Everything else in my house right now is pretty cheap, but my bed and mattress cost me ~ยฃ800 all said and done. Mattress was ยฃ600 mind. Bed is just a simple Divan.

Nothing beats a good nights sleep at all.

The only other thing we're struggling to find that's decent is a nice dining room table and chair set. We've found ones that are fairly expensive, but we're looking out for ones elsewhere still.

and_so_obvs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:34:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Buying at thrift stores and scavenging is a great way to pick up some new hobbies, too - a friend scavenged some old, solid-wood barstools and helped me turn them into mirror-top side tables, and I bought a solid-wood midcentury sideboard and refinished it to match my other furniture. It gave me the confidence to do woodworking and woodburning as a hobby, because I got to learn so much about how to prepare and treat wood.

and_so_obvs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:35:08 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Buying at thrift stores and scavenging is a great way to pick up some new hobbies, too - a friend scavenged some old, solid-wood barstools and helped me turn them into mirror-top side tables, and I bought a solid-wood midcentury sideboard and refinished it to match my other furniture. It gave me the confidence to do woodworking and woodburning as a hobby, because I got to learn so much about how to prepare and treat wood.

KevlarGorilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:38:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If you need a baseline of stuff, try dropping $50 on a storage locker auction. The hard part is moving the stuff over.

TheCuntyVaginaShow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:03:03 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. When my husband and I moved into our first (studio) apartment we got a couch ($30) and coffee table ($10) from GoodWill, a couple kitchen chairs from The Salvation Army ($5 each) a tv stand from the curb (FREE), and almost all of our kitchen utensils from The Dollar Tree. Well under $100 total! We were in a hurry to have our own place and each of those items lasted at least til we moved out a year later.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:06:10 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Could just look for new bargains. A friend of mine bought a really light frame genuine leather sofa, really strong though, comfortable. Tough leather. It's lasted him 10+ years and is still in great shape. Meanwhile my Ikea sofas look saggy and the fibres all worn out. Kind of like the rich man's shoes situation, the rich man buys quality sofa that'll last 20 years before wearing, the poor man keeps buying cheap shabby ones that look kind of shabby from the day you buy them.

iWETtheBEDonPURPOSE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

as someone who used to live in a city with a bunch of colleges, September 1st was always a prime day to find good furniture on the streets

Likeapuma24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

A local auction hall has loads of furniture. From estate sales (as already mentioned) to brand new couches & such from overstocked stores.

Just another possible option to find furniture for cheap!

yells_at_bugs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm hitting mid-thirties and I love my mishmash of household items. I still haunt my local thrift shops weekly. Some of my most "prized posessions" I got on the cheap.

It was a couple years after my youngest siblings had left the nest that I noticed...the nest had a lot of nice, new stuff. I wondered where my parents got the money...then I realized it was because they didn't have 3 little hellions breaking shit/fucking up/taking up thier time and resources. They always had the money, they just used to spend it taking care of us. Now they have it to spend on themselves and it makes me happy that they do.

I'll get there one day. No worries, no hurries.

fairlywired ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This It's great advice. My SO and I found a great reclining chair and foot rest at a local flea market/antique shop earlier this week for ยฃ25. Similar models usually go for over ยฃ100 and we're super pleased with it.

bikwho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:27:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have gotten some furniture from the ally. And then before moving again, I'd return the things to the ally from where I got it from. I'm sure someone else picked it up

The ally giveth, and the ally taketh.

eternaforest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:48:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've been moved out of the dorms and my parents house since April. Here's how I furnished:

Couch was a sick find at Big Lots. They do friends and family every so often where everything is 20% off. They also do x off of x coupons, so like $100 off $500+. With the savings I was able to get the matching ottoman "for free". I also got my 5x7 area rugs there for $20 a piece, and multiple runners. Lowes also has good rug deals sometimes.

End tables were on special at IKEA for $20 a piece. They are on casters and I love them and regret not buying 4 or 5. They're just so handy. And they don't sell them online :(

All of my dishes, pots and pans, and towels were buys from JCPenney, on sale + coupon. I think I got 2 weeks of towels and washcloths for under $75. My dishes were $40/set of 4 (Oneida) and my 12 pc pots and pans set was $20.

Cups were from a yard sale. Silverware was a Black Friday deal, Pfaltzgraff 12 set for under $100. Included everything + steak knives, serving pieces, teaspoons, etc.

Bedding I got on sale for $20. Bathroom things (rugs, shower curtain, trashcan, etc) were from Bed Bath and Beyond for under $50.

My desk was from Oak Express, 5 ft x 3 ft for around $100. Its massive and made super well so it will last me a long time.

My bedroom side table was a find from Homegoods, it had a big ding on the side so I got it discounted. You can't tell cause it's backed into a corner and has my stuff on top of it. It's a Broyhill with outlets and USBs inside to charge or power your stuff. The coolest find by far.

All my decorations are Etsy prints in cheap Hobby Lobby quick frames, $5 posters in cheap poster frames, a shadow box (bought with a coupon) I made with my Disney pin collection, my Pokรฉmon card collections framed, etc.

Furniture set was a cheap one my parents had in storage. They are eventually gonna buy me a nice bedroom suit (as they did for my brother and their parents did for them) so I'm fine with what I have for now.

I didn't fight anyone over these deals. Just waited and looked. Took me about 2 years to accumulate it all before I moved out. Lots of Christmas presents was stuff for my apartment lol.

MCWelby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:53:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Man I couldnt agree with this more. As designers, my wife and I have fallen victim to obsessing over making our new house look like a catalogue. This quickly has resulted in us spending money we don't have and has also elevated a lot of stress on our end.

Ways I have saved money to avoid the debt:

Craigslist: almost everything you want is on craigslist for a fraction of the cost (just be patient)

Nextdoor: if you havent downloaded this neighbor app, do it. People give away stuff constantly. It requires some effort but pays off when you get free chairs, tables, etc.

Furniture outlets: overstocked collections from top brands are generally sold for a third if the price. If you "must" have a conversation piece, this is another way that we have saved thousands over a short period of time.

Good luck!!

Edit: grammar

gorkt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:07:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Heck, I get furniture off Craigโ€™s list and local sales and I am in my 40s. I am not into fancy furniture so I would rather spend my money on other things. I still have the dining table and chairs I got from my in laws when I got married 20 years ago. I have a cheap coffee table and TV table from IKEA that works really well and they will last a while. It helps to have a mini van or truck or know someone who you can borrow one from.

am0x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:11:50 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We furnished our house (went from 1500 sq/ft apartment to 3500sq/ft home) for super cheap using Craigslist, thrift/used furniture stores, auctions and a thing called momma swap. The stuff was all actually really nice, just used. 4 years later we are still re-furnishing and getting pictures/mirrors shaping it into what she really wanted. However until then it still looked great while we got all out other stuff.

On top of that, we sold all the other stuff on the same sites we used to buy them and pretty much got our money back.

Ps: auctions are the way to go to get some incredible stuff for cheap. Especially nick-nacks and things like mirrors.

iheartcookin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:14:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I am as frugal as they come and I love buying and fixing old furniture but you know what? That's how you get bed bugs. Not just from beds but dressers and the like. Never again.

INHALE_VEGETABLES ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:08 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Most of the furniture (cupboards and wardrobe stuff mostly) I first had was bought from op shops or picked for free.

I got a little spray paint from work and stenciled over a bunch of it and sprayed 'cool psychedelic stuff' all over them. You can pick this stuff up and have a good solid crack at modifying or painting it however you want though, and because they it's inexpensive stuff, you wont worry too much about buggering it up and it helps develop skills if you want to do something similar.

SaraBayou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:02 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not ashamed to say that I've picked up a TV stand someone was putting in their front yard for the trash collection. There was virtually nothing wrong with it! It's amazing how some people will throw things away because they're too lazy to donate or sell it.

HiddenShorts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:07 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Or...parents/family old junk. Wife and I have been living together for about 8 years. Of all of the furniture in the house we've only bought our bed, our daughters bed, one used dresser, one used nightstand. Fully furnished second bedroom, kitchen, living room, all from family that didn't want/need stuff anymore.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Story time of how I got my Temperpedic Mattress for free-

I'll set the story. It was 2007. A lovely time to be a home buyer. Folks are buying houses left and right. They're giving mortgages like candy and it's the day after Halloween.

I'm delivering a crib to a giant McMansion in Millstone NJ. Tucked away on a Cul De Sac, all the architectural stylings of a McDonanlds Play Place. My delivery partner and I are raking in the dough. 18 bucks an hour, always overtime, 300.00 a week in tips, cash, guaranteed.

We meet the owner of the house, they're having another baby! Congratulations. These two fat, sweaty, furtniture relocation specialists are so happy for you. It's going in the spare bedroom? Great. Let's hear up and take a look. I like to walk the route prior to bringing anything in.

Oh, what's this bed doing here? It's a king size temperpedic for guests? Less then 6 months old and you're in laws slept on it twice? Shame. We can absolutely remove it for you. Nothing was mentioned to the salesman about removal, but there's some dead presidents that remedy that situation. And yes, I do believe it would be a waste to just throw it out. I'm sure I know of someone that could use a new bed.

Had that bed for nearly 10 years. So comfortable. It actually held back my sex life in my 20's because some lady friends I slept with actually just wanted to sleep. Like anything else, it eventually started to crack. Fall apart. Bought a new one within the past couple years, but it's just not the same...

sixpackshaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My dad's word for cheap furniture was, "Early Matrimony."

"Come on son, we are going to hit all the garage sales this morning, so we can find some early matrimony furniture for your college apartment."

Loganpowered ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I recently moved and have used Facebook Marketplace almost exclusively to furnish my home. I feel people are a little less shady if you can see some profile info. I tend to check the profile and pick from people that "look" decent in good neighborhoods. If i get there and anything feels off, i don't do it. I got a gorgeous white sectional for $125 from an older woman selling off all the stuff from her moms house (moved to FL). A lot of people are willing to part with big and heavy expensive stuff cheaper if you are willing to come and get it and move it on your own. Just be careful and know your neighborhoods.

And always, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

Average_Giant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:40:35 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If you like the thrill of the hunt, you can always explore alleyways too to find a table here or there.

Be careful what you pull from alleys. This is how you get bedbugs and roaches.

MIsamisahime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Most of my stuff has been given to me by my mom or her friends. When I got married her friends sent me a box full of baking and cookware.

mesoziocera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It sucks, but where I live, many thrift stores sell new furniture instead of thrift level furniture. It's cheaper than buying it from an actual furniture store, but way more expensive than you'd expect for one of those stores.

BigPeteB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

As someone who just tried to sell and donate a lot of stuff to downsize while moving from a large house to a small apartment... yes, please shop at thrift and consignment stores!

SmokesBoysLetsGo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:19 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also Craigslist. Even if you/spouse want very nice things...I've seen $5000 USD (new) pieces of furniture, still in near-new condition for 1/10th the price. Like OP says...just takes a little patience and time.

scalybanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Actually, my parents took years to furnish their house like OP said, except they did it by patiently thrifting, estate sale shopping, and finding gems along the road. I just learned this a month ago when I asked where they got all their high end furniture, tables, cabinets, etc, and their reply was, "oh we found it for cheap, refinished it ourselves, or built it ourselves."

Nice, lifelong furnishings do not need to be expensive. The cost is in time and patience.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly, I found the best deals on Amazon. An entire kitchen set was $50. A futon for $90. Table and chairs for $110. I furnished my entire apartment for <$500, which I thought was pretty great.

Sardonnicus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also... free-cycle listings on Craig's list. I've furnished an entire house with acceptable moderately stain-free furniture for free or very low cost. Yard sales, estate sales, business foreclosure auctions. Don't fall for the line of thinking that these practices are cheap. I live pay-check to pay-check and can't tell you how many times i've wasted $40 on some frivolous throw-away item on payday only to wish I had that $40 back 5 days later when I really needed it.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Added plus is major cities: you may get bedbugs. Something to keep you company if you're lonely!

(Seriously: be careful about picking up furniture used like this. Bed bugs are real and really bad.)

jamtomorrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also get on Nextdoor! I've noticed my neighbors on there selling tons of stuff for very cheap or just giving it away. Some of it is junk but some is good stuff.

Slappo86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also you'll feel much less depressed when your 3 year old starts stabbing your $50 dining room table with a fork and leaving pock marks all over it.

xemearg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Found one of my couches in my university house at the side of the road as trash. Was a good couch for the price.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:57 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Furniture stores seem to be going out of business left and right. We got almost all our furniture from one store's going out of business sale for a great deal.

RadAddict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:02 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. I'm 40 and have been married 16 years. We had our first couch for 4 years (thrift), our second for 12 (no name brand we bought for cash from a hole in the wall in Los Angeles), and our third this year from Pottery Barn - and it was a huge deal for us.

And to be honest, this pottery barn one isn't that nice. It's already sort-of falling apart.

ITS_JUST_LOW_T ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:25:21 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

How can you tell when someone has never had bedbugs? They tell you to bring alley furniture into your house. Never again.

begintobeginagain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:25:38 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

thrift stores are the answer. All our furniture was either given to us by family, bought in a thriftstore, a Craigslist find, and some curbside pick ups

Murder_redruM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also, if you are in the suburbs near a large city you should search the the city on craigslist. People who live in the city do not have much storage space. They may also buy more expensive furniture. Once they buy a new couch or table they will sell their old $2000 couch or dinner table deeply discounted because they have no place to store it even for 2 days like the people in the burbs who have garages and can sit on an item until they get the price they want. I also do not mind driving 45 minutes to get a like new $2000 restoration hardware bookshelf for $400.

wle8300 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Drive to wealthy apartment communities on Saturday morning-afternoons. When they move out they just toss their new furniture out.

_ask_me_about_trees_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This. I just got a three piece sectional couch from goodwill for $90. It looks brand new and I picked up a couch cushion and saw a star furniture tag. Love me some goodwill.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Alleyways from like the 25th-5th of the month when people are moving. Especially if you know a neighborhood that is wealthier and mostly rental. I've found some great stuff.

Flanyo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Pro Tip: Go to thrift stores in richer neighborhoods, what they consoder throwaway may be very nice to you or me.

slightlyoffkilter_7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also, this is how college apartments are furnished :) I have paid for exactly one piece of furniture in my apartment: my couch.

federally ยท 1008 points ยท Posted at 08:18:57 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Parent here who's currently well established in a pretty nice house.

My kids will never remember the house we had to sell because we could no longer afford it, the shitty rental we had to share with another family, the house we had to let go into foreclosure, the long talks we had to have about which bills would get paid on time and which wouldn't, or how close we came to the brink of financial disaster during periods of unemployment.

They either weren't born yet, were too young or we just shielded them from it. All they will remember is having a kick ass place to grow up.

GoogleyEyedNopes ยท 115 points ยท Posted at 11:23:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

You might be surprised by what they remember, at least in a grayish childhood memory sort of way. I was 4 when my parents declared bankruptcy after their partners gambling addiction and embezzlement lead them to ruin. I didn't grasp the details, but I'm pretty sure it's the first memory I have of my dad in tears. I remember when my dad lost his job after being back to work only a year, and the nights they spent late hours at the kitchen table trying to hold on. I remember the day my mom had to take my sister and I to the bank to cash out the savings bonds our grandparents gave us every year for Christmas so they would have enough money to stay afloat another month. And I still get a knot of anger in my chest every-time I remember the cashier's having the gall to say to my mother "there goes their college educations I guess". As if he knew anything about her, or the value she placed on our futures. I remember sitting in the backseat fuming with rage at the nerve of some stupid kid while I watched my mom try to hold her tears in on the drive home. I remember the my mom trying to hide our food stamps at the store when we would shop for groceries.

Maybe your kids were really to young. But I wouldn't worry even if they were not. I'm proud of my parents for what they struggled through. I'm glad I have these hazy memories to learn from. My parents were the generation that climbed my family into the middle class. I'm glad I remember the sacrifices they made and the hard work they put in to give me the life I have today.

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federally ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 11:22:57 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

There is a fine line that needs to be walked between communicating and teaching kids and over exposing them to things they aren't ready for.

When I lost my job my 10 year old was aware enough to realize something was up. So we explained why I was suddenly home everyday honestly and when he was rightfully worried about how we would pay for things we told him about how we were prepared for this with savings etc. Then we would talk about little things we were cutting back on just so we could be sure we were secure until I was employed again.

I think overall it was probably a pretty good learning experience for him.

edcRachel ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:38:28 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were TOO open with finances, regularly complaining about how little money we had.

It led to a lot of guilt issues. I still despise receiving gifts because I see it as an expense and a stress. I would order the cheapest thing on the menu even if I hated it, because all I could think about was how much money it was costing my family.

It's a fine line.

federally ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:46:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that's similar to how my childhood went.

My mom would guilt me with stories about how broke she was to use me to try and get more child support from my dad. Regularly making me stress about how we couldn't pay the mortgage etc.

It wasn't until I was an adult and thought back about how she didn't have to get a job until 8 years after the divorce and only shopped for clothes at department stores that I realized something was fishy about her stories.

If the kids ever have to know about any of our problems then it's always presented as a problem we can solve together. With things everyone can do to pitch in. It makes the moments much more about teaching how to deal with inevitable problems and not just something to worry about.

marriedwithoutchldrn ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 11:15:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you! You sound like wonderful parents. This is why my husband and I have waited so long to have kids. He's 37 and I'm 33 and we're finally going to start trying next year. I can't imagine putting my kids through what he and I went through when we were little. We remember each of our situations since they're very similar. We still have starter furniture for our king bed set and just last week finally got a bed frame and headboard for it! We're finally in a financial position to actually have kids and not worry about bills. It's been a long road, but I'm so glad we never put kids into the equation.

r-kellysDOODOOBUTTER ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:03:11 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Interestingly, I was aware of my parents financial situation. My father had his own construction business, and I grew up in a family of 7 kids. We lived well. Our house wasn't super nice, but we had a sail boat and a motor boat to go water skiing, and we went camping and all that. The boats were both bought for under $1k, because my dad was also a backyard mechanic and could fix anything. We had a video game room with 3 tvs, all picked from the side of the road and repaired by the old man. He couldn't afford the fun, so he used his hands to provide it for us. He also passed that knowledge onto us. Fixing my own house, cars, and electronics has been an invaluable asset to me.

Fun fact: We went through 3 motor boats. We ran them into the ground water skiing with a large family. My dad would simply buy another dead boat when ours was beyond repair, fix leaks, rebuild motor, and off we went. We used to bring like 5 paddles for when we broke down. That many kids can paddle a motor boat quick as hell.

I had overheard the conversations after bed time about what to cut out. Construction is slow in the winter, so they basically saved extra during the summer and tried to budget for the winter. I can't imagine how hard that is to predict. There was debt some years they had to crawl out of from unexpected heating bills and doctor bills for 7 kids.

The effect this had on myself, is that I never accumulated any debt until I was 27 when I realized I had no credit score and I needed a car. I paid for school mostly cash. At one point I had $1500 in a student loan which I quickly paid down before interest could start, it was a panic for me.

I was never taught how to manage my money wisely, so I never did until my late 20s. Luckily I never had a huge car loan or credit card debt until I got my money management in order. Then I started using debt as a way to build credit, paying it off without interest and have a hight 700s credit score.

TL;DR: My knowledge of my parents struggles scared me away from debt, for better or worse, I'm not sure. But it didn't teach me to be wise with money, so my early 20s was a spending spree but debt free.

redberyl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

But I thought baby boomers were all given 100k jobs right out of college, where they paid $3 a semester in tuition, and never had to struggle a day in their life right? /s

cordial_carbonara ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:36:07 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I had that realization a few years ago. My most recent memories of my mom's well-decorated home was from around age 10 and up, when she had a perfectly coordinated decoration on every wall and nice oak furniture thanks to dual salaried incomes that came when I was about 8. But if I think back far enough, I know for certain we had milk carton side tables in the living room when I was around 5, and I can remember my mom sewing a cover for her boxspring because it was sitting on the floor and she still wanted it to look nice.

My husband and I are actually slightly better off than my mother at that comparable point in her life, so I kind of fell into the trap of comparing her current home to ours now, which is ridiculous. So we're just going to keep letting our kids help pick out our decor from clearance racks and garage sales and enjoy a living room that's decked out in dinosaurs and pineapples.

ginnychewsley ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:17:35 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I was 7 or 8 when I dad was laid off from work. He worked overseas and had been home because of that. We already have our own house at that time but we had to move to the countryside because the cost of living was relatively less than in the city.

I knew we didn't have much. We weren't eating out, I didn't get to buy toys as much, mom had to pawn her jewelries from when she wasn't married. But I was happy that all of my wishes didn't matter. I think that was the happiest year of my life because we were finally complete. I remember receiving a plastic cooking playset for Christmas. After mom gave our gifts, she immediately went upstairs which was weird.

Recently, my sister told mom used to cry a lot during that time because she felt her kids deserved better. But really, everything we had was more than enough. They did their best. We're in a much, much better place now. :)

Point is, your children will understand, to some extent, your financial situation. You are a kick ass parent.

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federally ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I don't try and hide money matters from them. I just try and tow the line between teachable moments and unnecessary stress.

IAmBecomeCaffeine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:35 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for that. My family pinched pennies for most of my childhood and it only got worse during 2008, but they did everything they could to make sure my siblings and I never had to worry about it.

evange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:10 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And how old were you when you had kids and how old were you when you found financial success/security and got the kick ass place? Yes I think it's unreasonable to compare ourselves as young people starting out to our parents at their peak, but there's still definitely a disconnect between the level of success our parents achieved at each age compared to the level of success we are achieving at each age.

federally ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe so. But then it depends on how you define success and how much stuff you want to accumulate before you feel established it fulfilled.

Some issues people younger then me face are issues of lessened opportunity, some are issues of lack of perspective, some are issues of bad decision making and some people just plain out want too much stuff.

CreepTheNet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I do think kids should be aware of the limitations of family finances so they don't think life is one open wallet so that they can have whatever they want, whenever they want. I grew up very happy, but I also knew that money was tight and when we did something speical or received something special, it WAS SPECIAL.

state_of_what ยท 389 points ยท Posted at 05:25:54 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously. I put myself in debt for a couch. I love the couch, but still I'd rather just have the money back.

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eXa12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:26:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

At one point, we used the cushions off of a completely collapsed couch on half of an old bunkbed as a couch

actually kinda cool because the size difference meant there was a little shelf in front of the cushions to put everything on

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[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 13:20:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I got a large sectional for $1200 new and it's a great couch. I don't mind buying stuff like tables and cabinets on Craigslist, but a couch? No thanks.

Also a custom made couch will be much more expensive. My parents had a custom-made couch and it was ~$4000 and that was in 2011.

ffxivthrowaway03 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:27:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also why should we care if the furniture store is taking a 50% cut of the sale price? That's their business. I don't exist to make sure mom and pop businesses can stay relevant in a competitive market. /shrug

Runaway_5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:18:52 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

uh why not? I have two fantastic, comfy, amazing couches I got both on CL for $50 each. They're better than the $3000+ couches my girlfriend's family has.

irlcake ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 12:28:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Psh. I got a double recliner micro fiber couch and double rocker recliner love seat for $600

We have young kids so I figured there's no sense in getting really nice furniture because of stains from milk, fruit, pop tarts and mystery material.

Used soft furniture is gross and you can buy new for pretty cheap.

Before we had this furniture we had hand me downs (I know that's still used. It was still gross).

TheNorthComesWithMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If you really want cheap furniture that you don't care about kids destroying, get vinyl. It's much easier to wipe clean and will last a lot longer.

cosmicsans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is what me and my wife argue about constantly.

Well, this exact topic, now that I think about it.

But anyway, we have a 2 year old and a 3 year old. My wife wants to get new, nice furniture like her mom has. Now, granted, her mother and father didn't have nice furniture while they were growing up, this is all new since they've all moved out because now they can buy nice furniture and KEEP it nice....

But my wife wants new couches, a nice coffee table, etc. I keep saying No, at least until the kids get older. It's retarded to buy a $3k sectional just to have my youngest spill her juice on it the first day because even though we have a rule of "No food/drink outside the dining room/kitchen" as soon as I'm not around to enforce that my wife does it and the kids do it too. But her excuse is "well, I'm the one cleaning it up."

This is why our off-white carpet has hundreds of stains on it, too, even though we have a large carpet shampooer, and a small one for small jobs.....

cold_iron_76 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:02:02 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You're in the right on this. You have two toddlers. They ARE going to destroy shit. That's what kids do. I sympathize with you.

irlcake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:23:15 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The struggle is real, brother.

I can't convince mine that it's easier to just clean up after yourself immediately rather than spending 4 hours in one day mad at me because I don't want to help do a major clean.

Just pick up your shit when you're done with it.

Svorax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:21:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Where exactly would I find a "local maker?" This is something I've been trying to figure out but I just don't know how to go about it.

TheNorthComesWithMe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:29:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The risk of bedbugs makes used couches not worth it. I agree for hard furniture but I will never buy a used couch/recliner unless I personally know the person selling it.

NikeSwish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:41:20 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I spent about $1600 on a really nice couch and recliner. I thought at first I was way overpaying for something I sit on but just 3 months in, I already am glad I made the choice. Not only is it super comfortable but itโ€™s very high quality so Iโ€™m hoping to keep it for many years. I debated between my sofa or a $400, smaller, stiffer, cheaper couch. Glad I stepped up.

pinball_schminball ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:00 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Awful broad brush there. My designer jeans have lasted years, look great, and I'll never buy jeans anywhere else.

mccars ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:01:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Some stores like raymour and flanigan have a ton of couches on clearance so you don't have to spend thousands on furniture. We all know their "sales" aren't sales

fubadubdub ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:10:11 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

First purchase I made out of college basically was moving across the country to Denver, getting an apartment for nearly $1,000 a month and then hitting the furniture store for a table, couch, bed.

I wish I had just looked for roommates, who had furniture, I could have paid like $400 rent, and made friends all at the same time. Instead I started out with $12,000+ committed to just the rent (not including utilities/anything else), and $2,000+ on credit for crappy furniture.

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state_of_what ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god that sounds awful. At least this was just my one thing I wanted, and the only reason I got it was because I bought a house and knew we were not going to be moving again for a very long time.

I left so much stuff at the dumpster when I moved from my apartment just because I didn't want to move that shit. I can't imagine having to drag furniture like that across the country (or outside of it).

___3RM___ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:25 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. I had bought a few over priced couches just for them to get ruined by my cats. I've learned my lesson and get used stuff. Also I've taken the more minimal approach to things. It's so much more manageable. Plus to touch on OPs point, my parents are hoarders so yeah they literally have decades of crap that I don't want.

illredditlater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:02 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

What is a reasonable price for a couch? Some family just moved into a new place and their couch cost them $3500ish on a sale. It was a big sectional couch. To me it felt expensive, but I also got a $300 small couch that is pretty shit in quality.

_breadpool_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

When I was 18, I put a couch on layaway. It was one of my first major purchases. I originally had it at my parents house, but I moved away when I was 20 and left it there. I finally moved it down to where I am now, 12 years later. It has a few signs of age, but I still love it. Incredibly comfortable to sleep on too, for when I want to binge watch some TV.

spitefilledballohate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I just did this also. Although, I do think that having a nice couch that is not second hand is like one of those "adulting" milestones. I was very lucky with the last second hand couch I bought from Craigslist, it lasted us a good 7 years or so. But I am ready and willing to pay to have my own new nice couch.

oxygenium92 ยท 699 points ยท Posted at 06:51:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Most of the furniture you might buy second hand. But mattres? Buy that new every time. People have nasty shit on their skin, its not worth saving few dollars to get skin condition from a mattres

JiggyWopWop ยท 137 points ยท Posted at 11:38:49 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Mmhmm. And they can look disinfected and clean and whatever, but bedbugs are Satan's asshole made manifest as insect. After one close call/scare, now all used mattresses and/or other clothy stuffed furniture has bedbugs until proven to me otherwise. Fuuuuck that. It's cheaper and less stressful in the long run to buy new.

pxan ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 12:25:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't wish bed bugs on my worst enemy. Waking up itchy is one thing but laying in bed trying to fall asleep, feeling every tingle on your shin or ear and imagining one of them is on you... Just awful. Such an unpleasant period of my life.

shicken684 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 15:14:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Scabies are worst. My city had a run of them ten years ago where just about everyone had them. They are tiny tick like creatures that burrow under your skin. Specially places that have folds like your fingers, toes, genitals. They're also nocturnal so once 10pm hits they start moving around shitting all over the place which causes localized allergic reactions. Took multiple trips to the doctor and weeks of rubbing pesticide cream all over my body before they were fully gone. Even got a bad staph infection on my hand from scratching it so much that required an ER visit.

It was literally a life changing event. I'm an entirely different person because of that. I quit smoking, quit drinking, quit eating like shit. I just did everything to feel healthy and normal again.

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dandn5000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:34 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Christ. Those were absolutely the worst. For me, the worst part was the permethrin treatment. That shit is so awful for your skin. I spent six months treating and re-treating every week because I was convinced that I had continually reinfected myself with scabies. Finally, I realized that it was just a reaction to the treatment. That is the worst part, though--the treatment is just about as bad as the bugs for a few weeks. You psych yourself out thinking you're still infected. If I ever find out who infected me at first, I'll end them.

cereal_killerer ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:46:22 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

So true. I used to have nightmares about them.

People don't really understand how bad they are until they actually experience it.

KristinnK ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:52:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I always say having a bedbug infection is like being in a war zone. You always feel like your under attack, never safe. Your afraid to go places because you don't want to spread your infection to your friends and family. The stress makes it hard to eat and sleep. You feel like you're never going to feel normal again. For years afterwards you get a panic attack just thinking about it, like PTSD.

JiggyWopWop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:51:27 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

No shit. I went through exactly this, and I didn't even actually have the fuckers! After freaking out for a while, not sleeping, etc., I called a pest specialist and they diagnosed it as carpet beetles. Still didn't feel safe until I had thrown away my mattress, a lot of clothes, and some other furniture. Learned to be more discerning in used purchases. Still get the heebie jeebies when I think something is on me in bed.

whateverpieces ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:34:17 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Lord, this. We had them in several rooms of a house I lived in. The the stress and worry kept me from sleeping normally. I started going to work early and leaving late to avoid the situation and because I had no appetite; I ate breakfast and lunch at the office and some days that was all. For months afterward I had the sensation of things crawling on me and got nauseated if someone even mentioned them. It's taken several years for me to enjoy traveling again without constantly worrying about picking them up in a hotel room.

cereal_killerer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:59:58 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yea, there was a point where I didn't want to back to my apartment because it was so awful living with those bugs (was sharing with the owner who didn't really care).

I'd stay at college and friends houses as much as possible.

One time I found a bug on my jacket at college and I was horrified thinking of where I might be spreading them.

Computermaster ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:08:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

until proven to me otherwise.

The only proof I'll accept of a used mattress not having bedbugs is its charred, bare, spring-metal corpse.

Kit- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:27:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

plus somewhere in your city there is probably a "factory seconds" type mattress store where you can get a new mattress that has some issue overprice mattress stores couldn't display it with.

_breadpool_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:03:35 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Bed bugs are one of the reasons I loathe to stay in a hotel. That and I know what people do in their rooms and I know the hotel doesn't pay for quality cleaning.

Chaise91 ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 12:00:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Curious why anyone is disagreeing with you. Not only is the gross factor something to keep in mind but I'm not sure why anyone would be getting rid of a mattress that is still okay to sleep on. As in, the springs are in good condition, the fabric is still holding and there aren't any structural defects. Could never see myself throwing out a mattress otherwise.

cute4awowchick ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 12:57:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Moving to a smaller house where they don't have a guest bedroom anymore. Turning a guest room into an office or nursery. Moving overseas or a long distance where the cost of moving big furniture is pricey so it's cheaper/as cheap to sell now and buy new once you move.

I use a super nice mattress that I got from a family member that she was getting rid of because she was having wrist problems and the mattress was too heavy for her to change the sheets without massive pain. She downgraded in size and bought a mattress that was lighter and I got a 9 month old expensive mattress.

Just because you are in a situation right now where you wouldn't need to get rid of a mattress doesn't mean there aren't legit reasons!

Personally I would hesitate to buy used, but I could see situations where it might not be so sketchy. I would definitely educate myself on the signs of bedbugs and do a thorough inspection. And I would definitely use a mattress encasement and/or a waterproof mattress pad to protect the mattress from damage and lessen the ick/creep factor for myself.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:24:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If they're moving and don't want to take it with them. I bought an $1100 mattress 8 months ago and now I'm moving across the country, so it makes more financial sense to sell it (or throw it out) than pay to move it.

DancingHarp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:58:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The house my partner and I bought came with a solid oak bed and a mattress. The previous owners moved abroad and left loads of furniture. We kept the mattress. It had a 'date of replace' label on it, it was only 6 months old and when we looked up the product code it was a ยฃ2,000 mattress.

Honestly I wouldn't buy a second hand mattress. But a ยฃ2k mattress thats 6 months old for free? Hell yes. I cleaned it, and put a mattress protector cover over the top. And I sleep really well because the mattress is epic.

iamdorkette ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I got mine off Craigslist 4-5 years ago, this family had bought it maybe two months before for their grandparents to sleep on, as the grandparents were moving in so the other family members could take care of them. The grandparents couldn't deal with the weather here, so were moving back to wherever they came from and the family didn't need the bed. Nice bed for me, checked the seams and generally inspected it before I gave them the money. I think it was like $30 maybe? Screaming deal.

Shimasaki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:57 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My roommate is selling his because he's moving back home and has one there and doesn't really feel like moving it since he doesn't need it

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Urtehnoes ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:31:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yea this is why I'm not looking to buy a used couch either. I'll buy a used dining table set no problem - but anything fabric based? No thanks you can keep your bedbugs and other nasty shit.

pointlessbeats ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 09:39:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Mattress protectors exist. By this logic, you'd never wanna stay at a friend's house, sit on anyone's couch, or sleep in a hotel.

Attila_22 ยท 167 points ยท Posted at 10:17:25 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I feel more uncomfortable sleeping in all those places than I do sleeping at home. I may suck it up for a night or two but If I'm buying a bed that I'm going to sleep in every night then I don't want something that someone else has used, even if it was a friend's.

PM_ME_YOU_BOOBS ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 12:36:19 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Most people don't get rid of (adult sized) mattress that are still in good condition, usually something really gross happened to it or it's worn out/damaged. There are other reasons such as moving or wanting to get another sized bed, but they're far from the majority of discarded mattresses.

Kainaeco ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:06:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yea people always get real uppity about this stuff without thinking about things like this. It's not like you're wearing a used condom or used underwear.

I go to a gym that gives out free gym clothes during your workout and I was telling someone about it and he replied "that's nasty other people's clothes?!". My reply was "you know another place were you use used things? Like towels, sheets, pillows and mattresses? A hotel. What makes that different? They're all washed." He had no reply. Same logic can be applied here.

I'm also guessing no one here has gone away to live in a dorm in college?! Or rented an apartment?! Both of those normally come with a used mattress.....

Werewolfdad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:50 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but we're taking about somewhere you sleep every night compared to somewhere you spend a minuscule amount of time

yeah_but_no ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 07:49:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I dunno, a lot of thrift stores disinfect things.

I bought a queen sized mattress at one, for $50 , and it had a tag on it about how it had been cleaned and sanitized.

They even delivered it for free.

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platon29 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 09:08:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Even if it was when to be clean I'd still want to buy a new one. The idea that someone did some nasty shit on it is just too much to think about considering I'll be using it for a good chunk of my day.

funktion ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 11:21:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If I'm gonna be spending 8 hours a day on something for the next 10 years you best believe I'm gonna fork over the cash for brand new.

Anus_master ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:00:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Getting a good night sleep is so important and will prevent so much stress, it's really worth it to go as all out as you can on a mattress. One of the most important investments in a person's overall lifespan

katarh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:07:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Someone I knew said she dropped $3000 on a good mattress when she started law school, and had no other furniture in her apartment to encourage her to go out and study when not asleep.

atlgeek007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:07:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Never skimp on things that go between you and the ground -- tires, shoes, and mattresses are worth paying for good ones.

wolf13i ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:30:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Handheld UV lamp. Check things over.

Saying that, I got my mattress from new. I think I'll stick with wooden/ metal furnishings for second hand.

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lasershurt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:43:08 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

To this day I sleep on a mattress I got from a thrift store for a song. The key is not to just buy whatever they have, but be a little picky.

Sometimes people donate perfectly good, not-that-old mattresses. Near as I can tell, this one did not originate in the "bugs and feces" factory and it hasn't murdered me yet.

ryken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:45:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I find it hilarious that people are disgusted by owning a mattress that was used by one other person, but are perfectly happy to stay in a hotel and sleep on a mattress that thousands of different people have slept on.

maxtofunator ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:09:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

There are also great cheap places to get new mattresses such as lull and I think there is a purple something or other. ~$800 for a new queen sized mattress compared to like $2k

hutacars ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 10:17:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, this is why I always insist hotels buy a new mattress before I come to visit! /s

It's really nbd. Who cares what someone else did on their mattress?

politicalanalysis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:29:49 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, I prefer my own bed to a hotel bed any day of the week. If I had to sleep in a hotel bed every night, I would not enjoy it very much.

hutacars ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:59:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I agree, but my main reason for non-enjoyment is because their mattresses are usually pretty crappy, not because they're used.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:42:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Agree on this, I spent more on my mattress than all of my other furniture combined.

There's a great adage - "spend extra on the things that separate you from the ground" (mattress, shoes, tires, etc.)

That said, I would recommend getting a good mattress so that you sleep well and don't hurt your back. Hygiene is a good reason, but not the best imo.

xxam925 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:07 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I dunno. I just got a REALLY nice mattress and foundation for my summer place. It only sees action 3 months of the year so im bot too worried about longevity and i didnt want to spend 1000+ for something i wouldnt hate. A quality bed is VERY important in my experience, i dont want cheap there.

ejp1082 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

In many places it's actually illegal to sell a used mattress (it's to prevent the spread of bed bugs).

In general a mattress is probably one of those things you don't want to be frugal about. A rickety IKEA coffee table you got for free from craigslist that looks like crap and ultimately breaks in a year will still function as a coffee table. A mattress, on the other hand, is better viewed as an investment in your health. Sleep is damn important if you want to be a functioning adult, and a good mattress can be the difference between perpetually feeling groggy or actually having the energy to do the things you need to do.

Go out, try a bunch of them, spend what you have to spend to get a good night's sleep every night.

Fellhuhn ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 10:18:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Well, I have young kids and a cat. No way I will buy new furniture. Would live in a cave if that would be socially acceptable to stop those three from ruining everything.

RaccoonInAPartyDress ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 14:21:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We bought nice new everything when we bought our house. After two years, the cats and our newborn were really taking a toll on our furniture. Everything that seemed awesome in the store ended up being impractical or downright dangerous with a kid.

We gamely kept on with that set up as best we could. Then we gave away EVERYTHING and bought a handful of simple, small, pieces - from IKEA. I care much less about damage to this stuff, and it actually holds up much better than the fancy stuff we bought at a furniture store!

KittyFace11 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:26:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My sister has 3 kids and 2 cats: I was shocked when she purchased a CREAM COLOURED couch, but it's microfibre. It looks luxurious, yet it cleans so easily! It still looks new after 12 or so years.

But the living in a cave comment!! I'm a bit down this morning, but I just pictured that and it made me laugh!! (Come to think of it, you'd have to seal all the stone, anyway, or it would be a bitch to clean!! Lol! Damn! Housework is so bloody unavoidable!)

reddit_give_me_virus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:36:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have a lot of animals, Bob's furniture has outlets where they sell mismatched and damaged furniture. I can pick up sectional pieces for about $70. They'll last a year or two and I'll just throw them out and get new ones. Their stock is always changing too, so if you go back over a few weeks you can find all the diff pieces of a sectional and put together a matching set for third of what they sell it on the floor.

sanimalp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I tell my significant other that most of the furniture we have now will not survive kids + cat, so don't get too attached. It is not the last couch we will ever buy.

2muchyarn ยท 239 points ยท Posted at 05:07:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Did not follow this advice and we are still attempting to get ourselves out of the financial repercussions! DON'T BUY WHAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD!

10124268 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:58:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Are you saying I shouldn't have gone to a four year college right out of high school while having no idea what I wanted?

Because I agree.

lilbisc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:11:32 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You want to study business. There, I figured it out for you.

Seriously though, I work for a fortune 100 company and my coworkers kids study: biology, business, engineering, or pre law programs.

Studying what you like is for poor people who are happy working and unhappy in their life. Studying what gets you money might make you unhappy at work, but then you can have any home life you want. You get options.

EWCM ยท 155 points ยท Posted at 07:50:57 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My parents got married while still in college. My mom likes to say that the decorating style in their first apartment was "Early Poverty."

I'll admit that much of our furniture was purchased new, but it's been gradually over the last 8 years and mostly when I've find things I love in the clearance section.

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discoveri ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:51:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My mom bought a bunch of cheap wooden baskets at a yard sale and nailed them to the walls as decorations. Everyone thought it was really striking but she later admitted to me that it was because they couldn't afford any pictures to hang on the walls.

kleinevogel ยท 152 points ยท Posted at 06:10:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Most of our furniture is from Craigslist, auctions or estate sales. All mid century modern that I got for a steal. I paid $250 for our Swedish design dining table that's listed on some websites for 5k+. Once you get into finding deals it's so much fun! It just takes patience and really waiting for the right pieces to come up.

WMD_RightChair ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 11:31:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Mine too. I loooove Craigslist. All of our best furniture is from there. Stuff we never could have afforded otherwise. I love furniture design and you have to wade through a lot of junk, but there are real treasures on CL.

savethecetaceans ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 11:41:21 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Craigslist is the best for furniture! I'll spend $200 on something secondhand on CL before I even step foot into Target or IKEA to spend $200 on particle board. I got my solid wood dresser for $75 from an older couple and my futon for free from a rich area because they just wanted it gone.

groundhogcakeday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You obviously have access to one of the better craigslists. Ours is mostly shit for a 75 mile radius. Finding the pearls among the trash turned out to be far too much driving.

xzzz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:05:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Sure if you don't value your time and sanity. Shopping on Craigslist will make you pull your hair out. Dealing with shitty and flaky sellers, having to make time out of your day to drive halfway across town (especially on weekdays), and also you need a large vehicle to actually transport the stuff.

Good deals on Craigslist are often gone within hours of posting, so unless you like to be on Craigslist 24/7 or check e-mail alerts every hour, it's very time consuming.

MeliLew ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:48:38 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I can deal with everything else, but having to either loop in a friend with a large vehicle, or rent a u-haul has seriously kept me from some really good deals. That's a huge reason why people see their stuff for cheap on craigslist...they just want someone to take it away who has the means, lol!

marlasandiego ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:11:08 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We rent a pick up truck at a rental car company for about $120. (We didn't want to worry about mileage) Got a free solid mahogany tall boy dresser one weekend and a free solid wood dining table the next weekend. $240 for both pieces is a steal. It is a huge pain in the ass, so I understand. But financially, it isn't bad if you have a few hundred bucks worth of disposable income.

ringoftruth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:37:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You also need the strength to carry it in/out of the van, or people who will help, which sadly not everyone has.๐Ÿ˜ž

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:46:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You can usually weed out sanity and flakes with a bit of communication up front and I've hauled huge pieces of furniture on top of my tiny car. A few ratchet straps and a blanket can turn a compact into a pick-up.

secretWolfMan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:32:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This. Estate Sales are the best.
It's household items that someone liked so much they kept it until they literally couldn't have it anymore (died or downsized to a much smaller space).
And lots of the stuff predates "planned obsolescence". My flatware, pots, and spatulas are over 50 years old and they are going to last forever.

romansixx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have been hunting for a mid century credenza for over a year now. I think people have realized they can be worth more, or mid century is in right now, idk.

TrilobiteTerror ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. I buy and sell stuff from auctions, tag sales, estate sales, etc. so it has taken me only a couple months to accumulate all the necessary furniture, artwork (about 20 original oil/watercolor paintings), and other household items for my apartment and soon the house I'll buy for while I'm in graduate school. I bought nice antique oak tables for only $35, a $1500 leather reclining chair for $250, and so on.

You can get some great deals on furniture at auctions (especially when no one else is will/able to haul it.

redditusername613 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:35 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's ridiculous. I had no idea this craigslist and eBay world existed. I bought a house and bought some furniture for it new. Then got a girlfriend and she started showing me all these insane deals on Craigslist. Bought a granite bar cart, normally $500+, she found me one for $150. I bought a couch new and she found a bunch I like even more for like $1500 less. Craigslist is awesome.

NotEmmaStone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:44 on July 31, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

Same! We moved into our townhouse just over 3 years ago (from crappy campus apartments) and I just realized the other day that about 95% of our furniture and decor is different than when we moved in. The only old stuff that's left is a sectional we bought right before moving, a guest bed and one dresser. Everything else has been replaced and upgraded to better quality items thanks to thrift stores and Craigslist. It's taken a lot of time and patience but it was so worth it!

We've probably spent less than 3 grand to fully furnish this place, and that includes a $500 Lovesac sectional. Retail on everything we've bought is easily 25k+.

Also, I might be biased, but I think we have the best looking place out of all our 20-something friends ;)

stampedingTurtles ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 10:29:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Wish my local Craigslist had midcentury modern stuff for an affordable price. Mine is mostly couches that were $500 new and are $300 now that they have a few tears and reek of cat pee. Or almost enough febreeze to cover the cat pee...

mellowella ยท 202 points ยท Posted at 07:24:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I needed to hear this today. I'm still struggling with how barren our new home looks. I'm not much of a decorator either. I just needed to be reminded that it was OK to have a "finished product" yet.

briarformythoughts ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 08:56:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

There's a spectrum to this. Lots of people I know end up with too much shit, and spend a lot of time de cluttering to get back to the stage you are at. I keep things minimalist, and what I do have is fairly good quality or has a meaning. Don't buy stuff you don't really need, save yourself the expense and hassle - buy the things that are important slowly over time in high quality. Enjoy your savings and your extra space!

[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 12:28:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I was at a house party that was at a surgeon's house and got depressed for a second at how beautifully decorated every inch of the house was. I'm talking a house itself worth around a million, and hundreds of thousands in art, furniture, etc. Every piece an original, everything perfect, and not minimal at all. Toooons of art.

This all made me majorly jealous, since I only wished I had the taste and resources to pull it off...and I'm a lawyer, so I have resources.

But then I talked with him a bit and learned he moved into the place in 1991 or so. He had only finished a major renovation last year. Years and years of work went into that place, collecting the art, etc. It did not simply emerge into the world in a couple years.

That really helped me see that the best way to have the perfect place is to settle down, don't move, and collect for decades until you're done.

funobtainium ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:53:32 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I went to interior design school, and I read a ton/have kept up over the years. Most of the "showplace" houses (not show homes for charity) you see do mean massive resources, a really good designer with the time/skills to shop for you and find unique pieces and art, or years of curation.

You can do it in less time if you want a certain look and are willing to pay for it and do lots of research. If you do have a good eye, sites like 1stdibs.com and others have some great pieces.

saphirayne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:07 on July 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Just had a look at that site, you weren't kidding about needing massive resources. Now I'm slightly sad I don't have $15k spare for a 19th century Persian carpet :(

funobtainium ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:32 on July 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have never bought ANYTHING from that site, haha.

It's just nice to know it's there if you ever need to, right? (I have found all of my rugs on eBay for much, much, much less.)

JackassiddyRN ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 11:25:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

30 here. The main reason not to rush out and buy everything (besides debt) is also because you'll never be done. There will always be something more you want to add or do to the house. So take your time. Buy furniture cash.. don't finance. Also, don't buy a cheap version of something just because you want it now (e.g. Dining room set from big lots). Buy for life. Otherwise you'll just end up spending money twice. Save the money and when you do decide to get that piece of furniture get what you truly want.

AlmostDisappointed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:21 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Same. My mother refurnishes her 2 bedroom flat every two years or so. And I mean everything

Furniture, kitchen, bathroom, walls, floors.

Me? I like the way shit is. My small place is quite empty, but it feels spacious and doesn't have a feel of clutter

federally ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 08:56:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm in my early 30s and it's taken a decade of hard work and struggles to reach a point where my wife and I are pretty well established.

We have friends who are younger couples and we see them stretch themselves to try and find a shortcut to get where we are at. They don't consider that when we were their age our first house was getting foreclosed on, most dinner table conversations focused on deciding which bills would get paid and which wouldn't, and that we only survived by begging our parents for money.

jlauth ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:46:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My wife and I moved into a much larger home from the 80s. Amazing place. We updated the easy stuff right away. Now the kitchen and bathrooms are lingering. My stepdad has always said "it's not the destination...it's the journey." I try to keep that in mind with our home not being completed 3 years after moving in.

I_am_computer_blue ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 11:21:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Me too fam. I love my amazon cardboard t.v. stand but hearing all these people talking shit and putting pressure like "YOU'VE BEEN THERE 4 MONTHS AND DONT HAVE FURNITURE?" Sorry I haven't furnished my place to your fucking liking.

danarexasaurus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:13:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I would love to have my simple, barren home back. Now I have a bunch of stuff I love too much to get rid of but don't really need. Wish I had never even seen it so it wouldn't have ended up getting moved around 100 times because I don't have room for it. I've recently started purging useless junk and it feels so good.

marshmallowhug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:11:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Most of my furniture is currently cardboard boxes, and my bed is a secondhand twin (from a friend, so I wasn't worried about the secondhand mattress issue). You're almost certainly doing better than me.

(My boss makes fun of me, but I like it. I don't have to get upset at my cat when she claws up cheap Ikea rugs or throws up on the $200 trifold "couch" from Amazon, and when I move, I'll have less to worry about.)

wolf13i ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:31 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Hey, I'm completely with you on having a rather unfilled home. I found that something that made it feel so much more homely was a tall bookshelf with books/ dvds on it. I picked up a cheap pair and filled them as much as I could. (by no means full yet.)

CajunTurkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I bought a new house 9 months ago and it still looks a bit barren. My wife and I have gradually bought some furniture so we do have a couch, recliner, beds, and TV stands but we maybe have a few things hanging on our walls, including a clock. We're just taking our time figuring out what theme we want and what item goes where. It's actually a bit fun to talk about. We don't have much money to splurge on furniture all at once at the moment.

Tigerzombie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:06 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My family of 4 went from a 2 bedroom apartment to a 5 bedroom house. You can imagine how empty our new house was when we first moved in. We started off buying just the essentials. Our oldest daughter needed new furniture, her old stuff got passed to her sister. We got a new couch and chairs for the family room but the living room sat empty for over a year. Got an everyday dining table but took 2 years to find a dining table for the dining room. My husband is still using my desk from high school. We use Lego as decorations and still trying to figure out what to put on the walls. Eventually we'll finish furnishing the house.

TheNorthComesWithMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Just get some quilts/tapestries/blankets or other cloth wall hangings. They cover a large area, are decorative, and most importantly absorb sound. When your house echoes like an underground parking garage, that makes it seem a lot emptier than just the bare walls do.

telllos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:03 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Get things from second hand store, and there are some nice minimalist design.

For example our living room isn't that big. So we don't have a low table and no tv. But lots of space which make the living room look bigger.

b33bow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:22 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

me too!!...I look at pinterest and stores online for ideas...and make wishlists in the mean time. I know it will happen eventually, I just want it all so badly to reflect a space that's mine finally. sigh, patience -_-

azbraumeister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Enjoy that minimalist feeling while you can. Before you know it, your place will be cluttered with all types of shit. Then, if you have to move, it becomes very overwhelming.

WestCoastBestCoast01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

I needed this too. My boyfriend is working in another city for 9 months and I've been buying household decor and furniture and new rugs lately, probably to make myself feel better about being in our apartment alone. sigh

Xrayruester ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 10:49:11 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Renovations as well. I had to explain this to my fiancee. She wants all of these projects down now, but it just isn't feasible time wise or monetarily. A house is an ever evolving thing, there is always something to improve.

RaccoonInAPartyDress ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:27:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Homeowner for 10 years here - budget for ONE big project per year, but put away enough for two if you can. SOMETHING else WILL come up, or one of those "minor" things you're ignoring will suddenly turn out to be a huge thing you gotta do NOW.

It takes time and effort, but if you plan things in advance, it's easier.

Xrayruester ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:35:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We do that, just can't do a fence, the floor the bathroom, and new cabinets in one year. I guess I could, but I'd be a little sol if my HVAC went.

RaccoonInAPartyDress ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah it's fence one year, cabinets the next, bathroom after, etc. It'll get disrupted at some point or priorities will shift, but it's slow and steady overall.

ohmystars89 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:10:19 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I watch a lot of HGTV (maybe she does too) and I never understand why people don't do a little at a time. Like if you bought a house where the kitchen and bathroom are crap, do those before you move in, since those rooms are crucial. But you don't also need to renovate the living room before moving in...

Xrayruester ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:47:57 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

They aren't necessarily crap, just not the style or possibly the quality you want. Also, money isn't something you should be throwing around when you first move in. Especially if it is your first house. A lot of factors are still in play, electric bills, gas bills, etc. Plus redoing a kitchen isn't a little thing, we're talking like 10k to do cabinets from Ikea. I bought my house for 120k, putting 10% of the value into the kitchen right away wasn't an option.

10124268 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Correct. Our house is old and wasn't maintained well (but I inherited it so it's fine with me), so the projects are endless.

Xrayruester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've always lived in a house that was constantly changing. My mom always had a project going, and the houses she lived in we're builtโ€‹ in 95 and 87, so they were relatively modern homes.

coylewho ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 06:17:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Good advice. Although, my grandfather hand crafted a coffee table and a chest to my folks. I was brought up poor. So, those two pieces really stood out in our home. In conclusion: All you Reddit hipsters out there shout start honing your wood working skills for your grandkids.

Greecl ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 09:30:38 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My partner has a loom that her grandfather hand-crafted for her out of 4 or 5 different sorts of hard wood. He engraved little leaves and the name of each tree on each part. So neat.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:49:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I actually built my dinning room table, but "hand crafted" isn't practical when you're starting out. Building pieces requires a large work-space with at least a few expensive tools. It's a great way of getting exactly what you want on the cheap, but on some level you have to be able to afford an expensive piece of furniture before you have the capacity to build a cheap piece.

b33r_engineer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:07:19 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My favorite piece of furniture is the coffee table my grandfather made for me. Solid maple from a tree in his yard, no nails, all dowels and dovetails and mortise and tenon joints. It'll outlast me for sure.

If my kids ever sell it after I'm gone, I'll haunt their asses forever.

marshmallowhug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My partner likes to woodwork. (He's built a deck, railings, steps, etc.) I've been sending him pictures of cat trees, cat ladders, catios, etc, because those are really overpriced and fairly simple with basic materials. I'm also plotting ways to trick him into building a key hook (and by "trick", I mean probably asking as a winter holiday present).

He's put forth the idea of buying a table, but right now, all of our tables (between our separate homes) are easy to fold up and move, and it's a really nice feature because we both live in small spaces

[deleted] ยท 122 points ยท Posted at 08:08:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You would be mistaken, sir. My parents bought all the shit they own over a 5 year period and have the crippling debt to prove it.

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LittleNatch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:42:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We have a "rule of thumb" with this. If it has been in a box from the time we got there until the time we move again. It goes.

Obviously some people live places very temporarily but we were never in a place for just a short amount of time. If you have had something for two years, aside from a keepsake, and you haven't used it. Chances are you don't need it.

anothergoodbook ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 10:27:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My husband and I got married fairly young (21&22). We've been married 10 years and just bought our first house. Almost everything is second-hand (mostly "gifts" from people buying new stuff). Also,my husband has built a couple things. We were always more concerned with paying off debt and then building an emergency fund and paying for our kids' births with cash. We bought a bit of a fixer-upper so that's what we're working toward now and buying stuff slowly to furnish our house. Edit-I can't type apparently

Likeapuma24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:56:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Congrats on the new house! We're a year & a half into our first (& hopefully last) home purchase & we love it. Fixer uppers might not be glamorous at first, but everything you do to it makes it a bit more "yours". We've only down small projects & paint & it already seems so much nicer than when we bought it.

VerbatumTurtle ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 11:55:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is what I've tried to tell my wife. She grew up pretty well off. I've done my best to make our home as nice as possible. We started off in a two bedroom apartment and I graduated with a bachelors making 28k a year at my first job.. I worked hard and got us a house and two new cars and I now make 70k and she stays home.. unfortunately it's not enough and we have some credit card debt making updates to our house and after our bills are paid and we get necessities we only have $150 to last till next paycheck. She says we never have enough money... I'd like to think we have a very impressive set up considering I'm 27 and she's 25. But it's just not enough. I recently had to get a second job. I really wish she saw this post and understood this.

shredderrrrrr ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 14:44:51 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, what? Why isn't she working? It seems absurd for someone to complain about not having enough money and having their spouse work two jobs when they're not bringing in any income.

21Dawg ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 14:40:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

So you got a a second job and she stays home? Uhh why? Sounds like she is just sitting around complaining without putting any effort in herself

dubtrainz ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 12:05:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

What? Why don't you tell her in the face, man? Me and my fiancee make 12k / year both and we're more than happy. We have like half hour salary per month gone on things like phone/electricity. It depends on where you live and two new cars eat up money anywhere. Anyway. Talk to her. Get her to work (if she's not injured or ill). Good luck, mate! Enjoy the small things in life. ;)

dub_life ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:35:30 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Me and my fiancee make 12k / year both

no offense but perhaps a quick English lesson and you might be able to double that salary in this country... how exactly do you only make 12k? I literally made more that that on my "side hustle", while i work a full time job.

XorFish ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 12:58:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I now make 70k and she stays home.

and

She says we never have enough money.

It doesn't seem like you have kids, so there is an obvious answer to the later statement.

For what exactly do you need a second car? I might understand it if both of you need a car for work, but as it is now?

GoldenMechaTiger ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:53:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I mean she probably wants to be able to go places when he is at work. Since he seems to spend the majority if his time there that seems fair enough.

Laphroaig18Lover ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 16:26:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Unless she's disabled or already pregnant, she ought to be working to help out. Did you two made some kind of agreement to straight up accept traditional gender roles where she takes care of everything inside the house and you bring you home the money?

If it's not one of those three cases, then it is not fair to you for you to shoulder this burden alone. And she has no right to complain about it.

VerbatumTurtle ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 16:36:32 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

As far as inside the home. That was the original agreement, she would take care of the bills and maintain the home while I was at work. Even before she got pregnant, she wouldn't clean the cat box, mow the lawn, walk the dog or wash our cars. Now since I work two jobs she is constantly on me to clean up everything and I get envious of her because she goes to her family and friends houses during the day with our daughter and I come home and have to do almost daily chores to keep up the house. I guess I'm getting resentful because she always says I don't do enough and we never have enough money. I'm starting to get frustrated with this ever more 1 sided relationship.

orangesine ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 16:57:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You have three choices:

  1. Bottle up your frustration until you explode,

  2. Explode now,

  3. Have her understand how you feel, without being angry at her and without blaming her. (After all, it's your fault you didn't say anything sooner.)

The third one is ideal but not always possible... Just please don't try to man up. You will end up doing the first!

ohmystars89 ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 17:07:35 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Dude...

If she's the one managing the bills then it's up to her to make the money stretch. If she's home all day then she needs to do those chores. Washing a car is not difficult, neither is cleaning the cat litter. Idk about mowing the lawn but if she really cares she can find a way to do that herself too. If talking to her doesn't work (which I'm skeptical it will since she doesn't seem to be able to see past her nose) then off to couple's counseling. Good luck!

stonewalling ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:21:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Cat litter carries parasites that can cause severe birth defects or miscarriage. A pregnant woman shouldn't interact with cats at all.

Instantbeef ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:28:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Tell her to get a job. Even if it's just being a cashier at a local place. If she works 20 hours a week that brings in about 160 bucks each week. She doesn't need a full time job if she doesn't want it. She just needs to contribute a little so you don't need to worry. And if she gets a job or you start making more money don't start spending more money. Put it in the bank.

Laphroaig18Lover ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:16:03 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

Shit man, this situation sucks.

Now since I work two jobs she is constantly on me to clean up everything

.

she goes to her family and friends houses during the day with our daughter and I come home and have to do almost daily chores to keep up the house.

This does not compute. With you working outside the house more, you should be doing less inside the house. Part of being a stay at home parent is taking care of chores at home.

I guess I'm getting resentful because she always says I don't do enough and we never have enough money. I'm starting to get frustrated with this ever more 1 sided relationship.

Have you communicated your frustration to her? This really isn't fair to you.

That said, I don't want to go full /r/relationships on you. That sub has a reputation of constantly telling everyone to break up with their SO over every little thing. So here's a more moderate approach:

It sounds to me like this situation has changed away from what you two initially agreed on, but you two haven't yet been able to settle on a new system that works. It seems like maybe the traditional Breadwinner Dad/SAHM arrangement doesn't work for you two (at least not for her?). If so, that alright. If you two need to renegotiate the allocation of labor/chores because having your daughter changed things in a way that you two didn't expect, then that's okay. But the key is to find a new system that you are both okay with. Doesn't have to be a perfect 50/50 (and you two will be way happier if you're not "keeping score" of every little thing)... but you both need to be happy with what you two decide together. (Maybe you two recommit to the original arrangement. Maybe you two share chores evenly around the house and she goes to work after your daughter reaches X months old. Maybe something totally different.)

You really need to talk about this with her, the sooner the better. But make sure you are coming into it honestly, and with a team mindset. You two are on the same team. It needs to feel that way. If it doesn't, the two of you need to talk about it and find a way to make it feel that way.

I wish you the best of luck. (internet hug)

Edit: just saw your other comments about baby #2 and making up for her part-time job. I'm going to echo what other people have said, you need to talk to her about how this is affecting you. If the two of you struggle on your own, couples counseling is an amazing thing. Therapy of any kind can have a stigma attached to it, but it can save marriages and keep homes happy for the kids.

volyund ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This sub tells people to break up with their SO's over financial incompatibility, because those relationship tend to fare worse.

_breadpool_ ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:25:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Ask her straight up if she thinks it's fair that you work two jobs so she can can enjoy a luxurious life of doing nothing. Be sure to place an emphasis on the word 'fair' so she gets the point. If she doesn't see a problem with you never getting a break while she sits on her ass doing nothing, it's time to go to counseling. Even women in the 50s worked to make sure the kids were taken care of and the house was clean.

insane_casimir ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:31:31 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with what others are saying here, she needs to do more at home or get a job.

I'll just add that women who are pregnant or trying to get pregnant should not clean the cat's litter box. Cats can carry Toxoplasma gondii, a parasite that may seriously affect the unborn child.

https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/toxoplasmosis/gen_info/pregnant.html

Tsims56 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 12:43:49 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My husband and I bought a toaster as our first furnishing 5 years ago. Those toaster sturdels were not going to toast themselves. Priorities.

RoomaRooma ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 06:03:28 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

In the process of purchasing my first home right now. Planning to entirely get hand-me-downs and thrift-store furniture at first. I want to take my time deciding how to decorate.

Likeapuma24 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 12:47:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Hand-me-downs are even better than thrift store/CL finds. They're usually free, you know where they came from, & family (hopefully) won't give you something with bugs in it.

My grandmother moved from FL to live with my mom & gave us loads of furniture for our new house. Two power-recline chairs she paid something like 2k/per chair.... That's more than we've spent on all our other furniture combined! It's not stuff I'd spend my money on, but it's nice having quality stuff like that mixed in with everything else.

Housethrowaway123xyz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:17:42 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Facebook yardsale groups are golden. Join some from nicer nearby areas. People sell good furniture cheap, or give it away free.

BakersGonBake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:47 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I bought my first house when I was 25 (housing is super cheap where I live, my monthly mortgage was less than the rent for a nice one bedroom), but it was only a few weeks ago that I finally decorated my living room (in our second house) with all new furniture (except for the tables, which are vintage mid-century modern). I paid cash for everything. It was my 40th birthday gift to myself!

I have young co-workers who are buying their first houses and filling them up with new furniture, all of it financed. All I can do is shake my head. You're doing the right thing by taking your time. Congratulations on becoming a homeowner!

RoomaRooma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:35 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks! Im planning on learning how to refinish some of the furniture I get too so I can make it my own. Then I might be able to fix it if it breaks or becomes damaged. I especially want to develop those skills if we have kids...

goomah5240 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 11:47:07 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think our parents had as much access to cheap quality options like we do today. The walmart, target, IKEAs of the world - and not to mention online options. Not to be cliche but it's a different world now - material science advances, manufacturing improvements, China - all make buying a $50 desk, a $200 sofa and a $150 dinning room table possible.

vegatripy ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 11:52:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

However, old style furniture was long way durable.

My grandmother still has the same dinning table she had in 1950. I doubt my IKEA's Bjursta dinning table will long last (decently, at least) more than 10 years.

Licheno ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:18:31 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

a 50$ desk will be less durable then a 5000$ desk, but the OP point is that you can't buy a 5000$ desk as soon as you buy a new home because you will drown in debt, so a 50$ desk is better then just wait to have the money to buy an expensive one

platinum_orangutan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:47:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That's right. I just graduated college and bought a desk, TV stand, and bookshelf for 235 dollars total off of Amazon. Of course, I also got a sofa for $250, but that was on Craigslist. I furnished an entire room for less than $500, mostly thanks to China.

captainstormy ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 12:02:54 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I wish my wife would have been logical about that. I tried to tell her that but she had zero interest in living in a mostly unfurnished home.

After we bought our house we spent 8 grand on furniture because she wouldn't have it any other way.

In her defense, we had the money and paid in cash. Largely it's just a waste of money IMO. especially the guest room that's been used once in 5 years and the sitting room that we only ever use when her parents visit.

That 8 grand would have been more useful in other areas IMO.

disneyprincesspeach ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:15:38 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My friends boyfriend moved out on his own for the first time a year and bought all his furniture and appliances at one time. Literally one shopping trip.

He makes 52k a year and never sees any of it because he's paying down his credit card I make 28k/year and see most of my paycheck, because my husband and I don't buy furniture and appliances until we have a need/have enough money. We also ask family members who are downsizing for furniture before shopping anywhere. I don't mind not having a ton of furniture because we have what we need.

oldman_66 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 10:44:49 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Bought our house over 25 years ago and couldn't afford furniture.

Used the apartment couch and then a friend of a friends castoff later. Our living room looked like a frat house for at least 10 years until we could afford better. You do what you can to survive.

Kids don't remember that.

Also, funny how we marveled at all the closet/ storage space we had. Now every closet is packed with clothes coats etc. and the garage is too full to fit a car into.

Time to clean!

Sevruga ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:31:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This ain't the stuff kids remember. Not really. I mean we were always the last to get a colour tv, the last to get cable .... I remember that but I don't think that changed me much.

VegPicker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:00 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Haha, this was us, too, always the last on the technology train. Now my little sister always has to have the newest, greatest phone, and I'm like, "So... what are you gonna do with your old phone?"

RaccoonInAPartyDress ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:24:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god, empty house days...

When we moved in to our house, we had a TV, a PS3, and ONE CHAIR. I even took pictures of every empty room.

I miss those days...

marshmallowhug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I actually definitely remember things like the bright yellow dresser we picked up on the side of the road and had in my bedroom for three years growing up. Of course, I remember it because once we moved into a permanent home, my mom decorated the entire house in beige and I absolutely hated it and missed the color. (My grandparents also bought a lot of my dorm stuff for me, so it wasn't until I moved out at 26 that I got to buy things like bright striped sheets and red blankets and striped woven rugs and huge mugs with flowers on them.)

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vankirk ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:59:08 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

When my wife and I first got married 10 years ago, I remember her saying, "But my parents have those things." It took 3 years and the crash of '08 to convince her that her parents worked for 40 years to be able to have those things. Now, we just don't care about that kind of stuff.

NOT_ZOGNOID ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:31:10 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Gonna add to this my issue.

Don't fully furnish any apartment. You never know if you will be moving into a smaller or fuller one. I am graced with my parent's home for storage space, but right now I moved into 1/3 the floorspace three years after moving out. All the free furniture and thrift shop deals feel like they are taking a toll on my body now.

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:06:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also, this is morbid but, when people start dying you'll start getting a lot of stuff. My parent's home is filled with highly valuable antiques, they inherited these things from their grandparents.

I figured it'd take decades to achieve the level of antiques that they have. I purchased my house November, 2016. I lost both grandmothers (last of my grandparents, grandfathers both died in 2009) and have since filled my house with antiques from their estates. My parents have far more valuable antiques and art, but my house is filled to the brim as it stands. Theirs is too, actually, they're trying to pass stuff off to me but I really hate clutter so I keep passing up on stuff.

lovellama ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:56:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

My daughter (20) loves my mom's (74) house; I'm thinking when my mom moves in with my brother, whatever of her furniture I don't want/can't fit in my house will go to furnishing my daughter's apartment after she gets out of school.

My kid uses their great-great grandparent's bedroom set, my dresser came from my aunt...

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:16:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Heirlooms are great. One of my dining room tables is the one I ate at everyday of my life age 0 to 7. The sideboard in my foyer was the sideboard my great-grandparents brought to America with them from Sweden.

One day I hope to own the grandfather clock in my parent's home. It's been in my life forever.

And on a personal finance related note, these heirlooms have a great deal of value and can be a part of your total net worth. Upon discovering that I had a number of priceless antiques and artwork my insurance company insisted on having it all appraised for insurance purposes, so they are liable for $300,000 of personal items.

JMCrown ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 06:04:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My first apartment was a studio, literally all one room except for the bathroom. Everything I had was either begged, borrowed, or stolen. For years, my bed was just a queen mattress on a piece of plywood held up on cinder blocks. This is very good advice.

kdeanna ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 07:16:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

After being poor and not even having a boxspring, I actually prefer my beds low to the ground. There's something lazy-luxurious about it to me - plus that way I'm not tempted to cram a bunch of shit under it as "storage."

musemelpomene ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:01:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I mean don't they do that in Japan too? I hate having a bed frame, my mattress being in the ground makes my room seem more open!

snookers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:07:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

In modern Japan most people have normal (western) beds. However, in a traditional room or in rural areas it's not uncommon to have a rollout pad/mattress that is then rolled and stored in the closet during the day, eliminating the need for a 'bedroom' to exist at all. Some younger singles starting out will still do this in cities to maximize space in a small urban apartment.

Seicair ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 07:55:51 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I designed and built a bedframe for my mattress. For a while I just kept it on the floor, but reddit told me that women aren't a fan of that sort of thing, so I decided to build a frame. I used to work in a shop, so I measured my 4 big plastic storage bins and the mattress itself, and modeled it in the CAD program I used and printed out the design specs for the components. The main piece the mattress rests on is about 80# of pine, and I welded 4 metal supports for the corners out of stuff that wasn't officially in inventory because we didn't use it for anything. I got the parts powdercoated through one of our vendors for a good deal, and... well I'm pretty sure my bedframe can literally hold a car.

I got a nice bedskirt, and now I've got a ton of hidden storage area. It's like having an extra closet, and the whole thing counting lumber and powdercoating cost me probably about $50. I could literally use this thing for decades.

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contecorsair ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:50:54 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My 2nd apartment I went on Craigslist and bought every pillow for sale in a 5 mile radius, and bought every pillow at every salvation army and goodwill in the city. I didn't get any other furniture. The pillows filled the living room and I would stack them into a bed, table, seats, whatever I wanted. I had friends come over and just crash on my floor all the time. It was actually the greatest.

StarKiller99 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:59:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I can beat that. Our first year, we put two 2x12s in a corner and put a waterbed mattress in it, on the floor.

The ratty used couch, without legs that DH brought with him, my cat hid inside it for 3 days.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:03:08 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah? well after graduating i lived in a 3x3 m room with no windows. One wall was actually plywood that separated a larger room in two, one of which was mine. This wall was so thin I could hear my neighbor breathe. Had to share a bathroom with 9 other people

marshmallowhug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:22:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I bought very little furniture for my first apartment (which I currently live in). I bought chairs and lamps at Ikea, borrowed a table, plastic dresser and twin mattress from a friend (in exchange for some whiskey) and got a coffee table thing my parents wanted to get rid of. However, I still felt it was worthwhile to pick up a $50 metal be bedframe. I've only had it for a year, but it's worked out well so far. (I also eventually got a $200 trifold "couch" when I started fostering my friend's cat.)

SleepyConscience ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 10:37:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

As a side note to this, I want to stress the importance of a quality couch. Certain furniture items the dirt cheap versions will serve you fine. Not so much with couches. When I was first starting out my fiancee and I bought a cheap sectional couch at Value City furniture for $750. It looked nice enough and was comfortable, but the stupid thing fell apart in less than a year. By two years it holes all over it, was covered in dog fur and the frame had actually broken in one spot and the whole thing sunk lower at one spot. So eventually we get so sick of the couch we decide to go buy another one, which I'm not too thrilled about since I think it might just end up like the first. This time we went to a halfway decent furniture store and spent $3500 for a leather couch, large chair and ottoman. Good Lord this couch is so much better. A big problem with the old couch was it couldn't handle our dog. He thinks he's a cat and loves to climb on top of furniture and perch. The new couch both shows zero scratch marks from him and it repels his fur since it's leather. Good leather is very durable. I have friends who complain their dogs scratched up their leather, but ours shows zero wear after four years with it. When I sit on other leather couches now I notice their leather is usually much thinner feeling than ours. Whatever it is it's working. Like I said it's been with us four years and has gone through an interstate move and still looks as good as the day it was delivered. I'm confident we'll have it for another 10 or 20 years, which is much cheaper than the $750 one than lasted two years on a per year basis and it just looks nicer overall. It's also more comfortable, especially the chair with the ottoman. You just sink into the thing.

Now this just couches. Some stuff the cheap stuff is at least good enough until you can get something better. For example, I have a coffee table I got at Wal Mart for $15 (Mainstays Parson's table) that's still going strong ten years later. Sure, it looks and particularly feels cheap (it's made of particle board and is very lightweight), but it functions perfectly fine as a coffee table and only shows any signs of wear on the edges. I bought it when I was in college and only got around to replacing it this Spring with a coffee table I built myself in a woodworking class I took, and even then we didn't throw it away because feel bad throwing away perfectly good furniture. It's now used as an extra storage shelf next to our entertainer center.

vadsamoht3 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 11:27:34 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Can confirm. My father was an antiques restorer who used to do side-jobs rebuilding frames for the local upholsterer, and I've seen the inside of a lot of the imported furniture. It's often so cheap and flimsy that it's a wonder it holds together, and is packed full of scraps of whatever is lying around - to the point where I bet I could pull a random person off of a street and they could probably do a better job. I'm talking about the relatively expensive end of cheaper furniture here, even the stuff that comes from fancy stores that heavily advertise how everything is 'designed in Italy' or whatever BS they think will work.

Unfortunately, it still often works out cheaper to simply dump the old couch and buy a new one of similarly shitty quality than to it is to have it fixed and completely reupholstered, which both rewards these people for producing made-to-break crap and is a huge waste of resources (and over the long-term, money).

tl;dr - if you're buying new furniture from anywhere other than a furniture store that makes it locally/in-house, then expect the build quality to be rubbish.

thunder_shart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:53:08 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm glad I researched reddit before spending money to furnish my own place. I've basically followed the rule to spend money on a couch and a bed. Pretty much everything else can be hunted for through sales or thrift stores....or splurged on when you really like something.

My friends gave me so much shit for spending 2k on a couch. But I'm 100% satisfied.

axck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:01:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

Yeah dunno if I quite agree. I'm pretty happy with my $800 couches after 5 years, pet included, 2 moves, and a even a freight trip across the ocean.

There's some stuff where the adage "buy the best you can afford" applies 100% because it makes financial sense over the long run, and improves quality of life throughout the entire span - a bed (specifically a mattress), a suit, running shoes, good tools, etc. Those are all items which a) greatly improve quality of life and/or b) last a lifetime. it's usually worth it to stretch your budget specifically for these and even exceed it. I would hesitate to put a couch in that same category. I would liken it to a car or bike, buying a a quality one at a modest price always makes more financial sense than buying the "best" one, even if you could fit that "best" one into your budget. Like what you describe in your last paragraph. A $50k car can last decades, but so can a $25k car.

If splurging on that latter category of things makes one happy then it could be worth it intrinsically for that person (such as if they're a hobbyist), but it's not necessarily true for the average consumer. You won't see the same returns exceeding your budget by 10% on a couch as you would exceeding your budget by 10% on a bed or suit, for example.

Partygoblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Man, this is so true. My mom and step-dad are particular about furniture, and bought this massive living room set when I was a freshman in high school. They sold the house and put everything in storage my freshman year of college. I have now been carting around this living room set for the last four years because it is so solid and comfortable. It's not especially attractive...deep red paisley and way too big for the apartments I've been in. But I'm not giving that furniture up until it's unusable lol.

Likeapuma24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:51:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We've always bought the cheap options for furniture, & had similar experiences. Family moved & gave us a piece from a local high end furniture store. It's amazing how much it holds up. They had it for close to 20 years before giving it to us. And it still looks better now than the couches we purchased within the past 5 years.

[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 11:36:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My $20 Craigslist 4 seater couch from 1970 is 10000xs better than your $3500 set. Fuck for $3000 I could have it covered in custom ostrich and alligator. Spending $3500 is insanity. In. Sanity.

HALBowman ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 11:15:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yes and no. 30 years ago a microwave cost the sun. Now a days you can get one for like 40$ brand new. Times are different and depending on how much money you plan to spend makes the difference. I would say hold out and spend a little more, as it is going to be part of your home and is not worth settling

princess-bitchface ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:04:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is such a good point. A lot of my friends moved out of home into their first rentals and had to buy nice furniture, electronics, white goods straight away, getting themselves into debt. Then there's my husband and I on our mismatched hand-me-down couches, hard rubbish bookshelves and eBay whitegoods. The cats scratch up couches anyway.

jadedyou123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have a friend like that too - They tend to re-furnish each apartment they move in to, too. It kills me to watch from a distance, as they buy-sell-buy-sell-etc. huge ticket items, in order to make each new place feel like "home." Meanwhile, paying off hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars of debt inbetween each apartment..... I cringe at it, as I sit on my 8 year old comfy couch, that my dog chewed one corner off of.... lol :)

Ralliah ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:15:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We moved from a tiny apartment with shitty second or third hand items to a house in the country a little over a year ago. While we bought most of the big items in one go - we'd spent quite a while saving up to be able to do so - most rooms still aren't fully decorated. It took six months to get pictures in frames and hung up. The master bedroom still doesn't have decorative items up. In fact, the only room that's just about done is the nursery. Which we don't use because our five-month-old sleeps in our room.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:53:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

A little bit of handiness goes a long way too. Some of my nicest pieces of furniture are things that I found for free and then refurbished.

cmcg1227 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:40:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Personally, I'm a huge fan of Ikea furniture. Especially for stuff you aren't going to sit on. Our entertainment "center", our side tables, my husband's desk, and our dresser are all Ikea. We have a hand me down kitchen table and chairs from my father in law, our stools are amazon.com specials that are really stools that go in like a shop or a commercial kitchen. Places where we splurged? Our mattress (used to have two twins that we had from before we were together ratched strapped together) is from tuft and needle (looove and highly recommend). Our couch is from Costco. My husband's computer chair for his office is from Amazon and while he spent like 300-400 bucks still sometimes says he should have spent more on it given how much time he spends in it.

Another funny anecdote is that a partner at my old (accounting) firm is in his late 30s with a wife and kids. He just posted on Facebook that he and his wife had just after 10 years of marriage accomplished one of their "adult" goals by replacing their last piece of Ikea furniture (their kitchen table). This is a man who has been making 300k+ a year for at least 5 years, and had been making 6 figures for at least 10 years.

yeah-what ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:29:20 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have had an ikea coffee table (leksvik) for 14 years now. It has stood up to babies chewing on the corners and learning to walk holding on to the sides, toddlers crawling through the cubbies underneath it, preschoolers doing puzzles and colouring on it, and young school age kids doing their first homework assignments on it. It's still solid, and while maybe the top could use a sanding down and refinishing, it looks fine until you look at it up close. I have no intention of replacing it any time soon.

DJWalnut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My husband's computer chair for his office is from Amazon and while he spent like 300-400 bucks still sometimes says he should have spent more on it given how much time he spends in it.

I have a tendency to wear though office chairs real fast. they last me about a year or two before I break them somehow. the one i'm sitting in is coming apart at the seams and is starting to smell bad. what would you recomend for cost-effective office chairs

Tivia ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:44:38 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I would rather not have a piece of furniture than tacky looking pressed sawdust. I walk into a house full of IKEA crap and all I think is "city version of Walmart".

Casey-- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:36:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Not all of it is the chipboard stuff. You can get some good stuff at Ikea if you are discerning. I had the Billy bookshelves but I wouldn't get them again as they didn't really hold up well. I have their Fjalkinge shelves now and I'm sure they'll last a hell of a lot longer because they're metal. I also have the PS cabinet as a TV stand and that's doing just fine too.

jayzeez ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:29:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't see this mentioned but also check out Facebook marketplace - you can negotiate the prices! We got a 4 seater glass top dining table and a glass top coffee table in excellent conditions for about $45 each and two side tables for $30.

sortashort ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:21:35 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I was so proud to hand over our convertible couch to a young man just starting out last year as we replaced it. I was so glad to hear it would serve as a dual purpose since he was going to be living with a friend without a bed. It brought back memories of my husband and I moving in together and getting a free couch from his parents as our first piece of furniture.

[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:26:51 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

and thats why they have enough chairs and tables to fill a 3 story restaurant. I like how roomy my apartment is.

Markimelbourne ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:44:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

In saying all that, furniture and applainces are can be brought very cheap from target/kmart (aus)...

marshmallowhug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

In the US, prices at Ikea tend to be comparable, and the quality is generally better. (That said, I bought a cheap metal bedframe at Walmart, because I only needed it for a year or two. I'm in a twin bed currently, but will eventually be moving in with my partner, who has a larger bed.)

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Oddsockgnome ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 07:09:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Have been using a $15 kmart toaster for 7 years.

StarKiller99 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:02:35 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If it keeps you out of debt

MulderD ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 07:53:25 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That's right. All you need is a milk crate and piece of cardboard in your first apartment!

Dranox ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:04:25 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly, moving out this fall emptiness is what I want. Only the basics, tossing out my old junk. Maybe some framed posters or paintings to make it feel warmer and a carpet somewhere, but beyond that I want as little clutter as possible

Jezza51423 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:48:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My dad always went to the local auctions to find lovely old furniture at bargain prices. Some of it needed to be sanded back and re varnished but other than that, it was beautiful hand made old furniture for the price of IKEA furniture sometimes.

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IolaBoylen ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:20:06 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

So true! I had an empty dining room for 3 years except for a chair in the middle so we didn't hit our head on the light fixture when we walked through. Bought a beautiful Amish table and chairs set and a buffet earlier this year. Cost a pretty penny but it was so worth the wait.

Also, just my personal experience, but I think it's better to live in a place for a bit and really get to know your house before buying new furniture. Nothing worse than spending money on something only to struggle with making it "work" in your space. Taking your time can hopefully avoid that problem.

arfbrookwood ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:15:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

When we first bought my house my mother suggested that to furnish the inside, I buy good exterior furniture to use inside, which is cheaper. That way, when I had the money to buy good interior furniture, I would also have really good exterior furniture.

rckid13 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:45:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Furnishing isn't my worry. I'm trying to figure out how so many people can afford these houses in the first place. I have to go over an hour away from where I work to get any house under $500k. The only listings under that near me are 1 bedroom condos.

Even in relatively cheap areas of the country $200k seems pretty average for a house, yet the average income is around $55k. A $200k house in a LCOL area is still over 3x the average national income.

RustyPainter ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 11:39:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

More advice: RENTING IS NOT BAD!!!! Quit letting people tell you that you should buy a house. My wife and I got married in 2003. We JUST bought our first house. We saved like crazy. We paid off EVERYTHING else. We were able to put 40% down. We walked in to the furniture store, and paid $10,000 CASH to furnish our new house. My house is my only debt. And, because we wait, and saved, my mortgage (with the escrow) is $200 LESS than my rent was.

bsbbtnh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Mortgage rates are at an all time low (just starting to pick up). Now is the time to buy. If you had bought back in 2003, you'd have been paying 4% higher interest. For instance, with a 5-year fixed mortgage on $200k, in those first five years you'd pay like $56k, $30k would go to your principal, and you'd owe about $170k when you renew.

If you'd bought in 2003, you'd have paid roughly $85k on a $200k mortgage, and only $18k would come off your principle. You'd still owe $182,000!

Now mortgage rates are going to go up. If you had bought around 2010, you'd have possibly saved yourself from years of interest raping from the banks. Hopefully you went fixed, not variable. Rates are going to slowly climb (as they tend to do under Republicans), and in 5 years, the lowest interest rates may be double, and you'll see an increase of ~30% to your mortgage payment.

Plus, if you had bought in 2010ish, you'd have likely gotten a lower price on your place, and you'd have saved a lot of money in rent. Just think that you've been paying rent this whole time. At 2010 rates (which are a bit lower than todays), even if your mortgage matched your rent payment, you'd have been putting a little over half of what you paid towards your principal. If we assume my $200k mortgage example, you would have paid down your principle down by $42k (and $38k in interest). Instead, you "paid" $80k in rent with nothing to show for it. Plus, even if your house only increased in value by 1% over each of those seven years, you'd have gained over $15k in equity. So by not buying in 2010, a person in my example would have "thrown away" at least $42-57,000.

Now if you were in that situation, and had added the money you saved over the last 7 years for a downpayment, and instead made that as extra mortgage payments during the past 7 years, you'd have knocked over $110,000 or more off a $200,000 mortgage.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:44:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also, where I am (SF Bay Area), house prices are going up faster than most people can save. It's better to buy a starter home or a fixer, if you can, using an FHA loan and the currently low rates, and build up equity rather than waiting for your dream home to become affordable.

_sevennine_ ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:06:42 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I just bought my first house and I'm having trouble convincing my wife that it'll take time to get it how we want. Luckily she's starting to realise as the bills come in.

-Saggio- ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:24:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm in a similar boat. Trying to convince her the only thing we need day 1 is a couch, we have our bedroom furniture and are getting an old dining table from my parents.

She seems to be on board and then says stuff like getting a completely new bedroom set right away because ours is old. While I agree as it is like 14 yrs old, it still works and looks ok, do we really need to replace it day 1??

WMD_RightChair ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:42:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's so hard when you're reeeally into decorating and every room on Pinterest is like, fuckin' fully "curated" and shit and all the design bloggers you follow are just living large with style all around them. I just close my eyes and put my hands over my ears, rock back and forth in the corner whispering "instagram is not real". Then I get on Craigslist and continue my years long search for the perfect queen bed frame.

harden26 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 07:44:13 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Your parents bought antique furniture because they understood the value and that it lasts forever. Furniture built today is made to break within a few years.

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harden26 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The difference between that and antique furniture is I can spill water on antiques, take really bad care of it, knock it over...whatever and it will not break. It's built to last and if you have need to restore it you can. Try restoring IKEA furniture

HierEncore ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:56:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My parents spent several decades with the same furniture. My mother passed away at 59 but my father kept a couple of pieces still to take with him to his retirement apartment.

He stored the rest away and spent some $300/month for years trying to hold on to it.. Eventually he gave it all away because he couldnt afford storage anymore. He offered me some of it but i have no room either and part of me doesnt want any of it... Old memories dont belong in a fresh life imo.

People these days spend. Razy money on crappy furniture that doesnt last... All it means is a lot more furniture stores and a lot more trash in the landfills.

ChumChumz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:05:54 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

my girlfriend and I have been searching for the perfect shelf unit to hold four of our fish tanks, (so at least 45" wide, two tiered, and able to handle about 150+ lbs a shelf without much issue).

She usually collects antique crates and things of the sort, so we've been searching for the past months going to goodwill/savers weekly, scouring craigslist.

I've decided that I am just buying a stupid bookcase at pier1 for 350$. literally hate furniture and never realized it was this expensive when you start to get picky

intjperspective ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:35 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If you are somewhat handy, building things yourself can be a good option as well. Ana-white.com has lots of plans for furniture using pocket hole screws. Easy to build, and solid compared to a lot of the stuff out there. I find this usually gives me the right balance of quality and price, but it does require more effort.

ChumChumz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

yeah, her grandfather also offered to build us something during the holidays but time is the main constraint, i've been working 50ish hours recently and any time left over goes mostly to chores and errands but i'll take a look at the site!

intjperspective ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's a woman building all this stuff. With a little training, even your SO can make this stuff. It takes some time to get comfortable with it, but the payoff is great.

crazyperson15 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:28:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Antiques are really cheap now, go to any auction and you can get beautiful furniture for cheaper than you could get it's modern IKEA equivalent.

TriSamples ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 07:54:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

But always remember your parents were part of a baby boom generation and probably lived in a developed country where the economics mean't they had higher wages and far more financing options than you. You are not only getting paid relatively less the cost of items is higher and no one wants to commit to long term finance for you. Remember your parent definitely had it better than you in everyway.

Sorry but for Europe/US etc, there is a disadvantage to living now and you only have to ask how your parents bought their first house to understand how fucked western youth are.

spinagon ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 10:16:07 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My parents got their apartment for free from the government, but USSR doesn't exist anymore, so I see your point.

mechesh ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 12:32:31 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

there is a disadvantage to living now and you only have to ask how your parents bought their first house to understand how fucked western youth are.

The answer: They paid 18% interest rate EIGHTEEN FUCKING PERCENT IN THE EARLY 80'S!!!! It was not all this rose petals and unicorn farts that everyone thinks it is. Home loan interest rates are 4% or so right now.

Yyoumadbro ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:11:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

What? You mean a bunch of kids on Reddit who weren't alive during these so called glory days are confused about how "great" things were.

TriSamples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:25 on July 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It was rose petals and unicorns though. At the time no one realised assets could appreciate to such ridiculous extents so the barrier to entry was low. Interest rates aren't just high for NO REASON, it's a what came first argument. Salaries and % of higher earners was much better than now.

marcocantele ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 09:36:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

In my very personal opinion, everything cycles. It's not like that aetas aurea is never coming back. Story repeats itself, and growth always happened after periods of depression. I don't know if I'm being naive nor I can guarantee you this is going to happen soon, but I feel like western youth will have its chance in the next years.

I always appreciate feedback in case you don't agree, and sorry for my bad English.

TriSamples ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:43:31 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I agree everything cycles but a western economy revival would require for us to go backwards for years before progress could once again be made. The boom times and economic gradients that existed were extreme. The population age distributions were right, it was the perfect storm that might occur in other countries by developed ones will never experience that in our lifetimes.

If western economies collapsed then sure that might happen but the system is rigged to financially support established and stable countries.

marcocantele ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:55:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

There are deep differences between the US (I'm assuming you're American?) and EU countries though. As you said the economic gradient required in order to achieve such a "perfect storm" in a financially stable country like the US is steep, and likely won't happen again in a foreseeable future.

Europe is such a different environment. Countries are not as stable, and there is the possibility for example (I'm overly-simplifying) of getting money injections directly from the ECB. Lots of diverse scenarios in here. My country in particular (Italy) is a never-ending, unpredictable shitfest that can't go on like this forever. Changes will happen.

Again, sorry for my bad English and pardon me if I do not fully understand what's happening. Feedback always appreciated!

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poisonedslo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:33:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's definitely applicable in Slovenia. They had some political oppression back then, coffee was hard to get (they had to illegaly import it), but they built houses that would put the next three generations in debt nowadays.

lastthursdayism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:41:51 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You are completely incorrect on the extent of the Western post-war birth increase a.k.a 'the baby boom' - it definitely included the most of western Europe, the US, Canada, Australia, you get the idea.

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lastthursdayism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:06:42 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My experience of mainland Europe (Germany, Spain, France, Holland, to be specific) is that you are correct.

The UK however does suffer from the generational inequality regarding home ownership and that statement definitely applies.

Thank you for helping to add nuance to the discussion.

Dolanmite-the-Great ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:17:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The problem is that, instead of the boom periods providing growth to all levels of the economy, boom periods now will more exclusively benefit the already rich. The fact that wages have functionally shrunk over more than a single cycle (since the 90s) shows this to be a sad reality. Cheap things have gotten cheaper, but things like quality home furnishings have not gotten considerably cheaper to match lower wages.

ivix ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 10:30:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Uh, financing everyday purchases was absolutely not a thing more than 10-20 years ago. You financed your house and that was about it.

sunlit_shadows ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 10:53:28 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Try 20-30 years ago. I was born in the early 80s and i remember seeing tv ads as a little kid for "rent-to-own" furniture and 0% interest for a year on furniture.

ivix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:22:03 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I guess this kind of thing spread in the US to the UK. Over here we certainly did not have that in the 80s - it all started in the early 2000's. Before that, if you wanted to buy something, you had to bloody well save up for it.

This diagram shows it: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/03/article-2596152-1CCDFCC600000578-633_634x338.jpg

redditgolddigg3r ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:21:25 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

More financing options? The bevy of financing options out there right now are one of the main issues.

And if you can't do that, rent-to-own places are further marking up cheap furniture.

RaccoonInAPartyDress ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:45:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My parents bought a 4bed, 2bath, 2,600sqft (estimate), 100+ year old character home for $30k in 1986. My dad was the only working adult and they had three kids. The houses on that street sell for $300k now!

groundhogcakeday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:10 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Whoa there! A little history lesson here. My parents did not have credit cards, which weren't yet really a thing in the 60s/early 70s. (And when they started being a thing credit was not for women, but that's a separate issue.) If you wanted to finance something you did have a "financing option" - layaway - but you didn't get to take the item home until it was paid for.

After buying their house (3 bed 1 bath 900 sq ft for a family of 6) my parents saved for years to buy a clothes dryer. My mother hung four children's worth of cloth diapers outside on the clothesline all through the New England winters. After they bought the dryer the next saving project was a laziboy recliner for my dad - I still remember the giant coin collection they used to finance that. But that had to wait until after my youngest brother was in school - first they needed a second (used) car so mom could get a job. Hardly anyone had 2 cars or even two car driveways in those days, so if mom needed the car we all piled in to drive dad to work.

noochking ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 10:57:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My wife, as well as I, had nothing 4 years ago. Jail does that to people. HIT THE TRASH PILE. A number of things we have amassed from zero are nothing short of spectacular. She has become the girl you ask around town for specialty things. Within a few weeks she will track one down. Need a hot dog and bun toaster? Got one! Need a commercial 10' x 20' pop up tent, got that too... Fuckin hell she hits certain "ritzier" neighborhoods on monday nights and tuesday mornings before and as trash is running. We have literally stocked our new home office with shit others have thrown out. Our pediatrician, day care, and anyone involved with child care, in general, gets a visit from her once a month dropping toys, books, and any cleaning supplies that are still good. It is sickening what we waste as humans. That shit would've hit the dump never to be seen by us again.

heidischallenge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My parents moved into a neighborhood in the early 70's during the white flight of people moving to the burbs. They found all kinds of furniture in the alleys.

DarthHiggs ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:00:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I scroll apps like LetGo or OfferUp for stuff like nightstands, random bits of furniture or household items. For the furniture, I sand, fix, paint/stain the piece to get the look I want. It saves me money and gives me a sense of accomplishment. I literally started out with nothing, sleeping on the floor type of nothing. Now after a few years "my living room has been much more comfortable".

Edit: Yes, it was a Sublime reference.

ConnieLingus24 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:01:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We are pretty comfortable leaving things bare in favor of the "right" thing instead of just filling in for the sake of filling in. Some of our stuff is rescued (parents' mid century modern dining room table) and others are bought new. We went to Nadeau for a lot. Solid wood furniture, you just have to measure carefully since you can't return it.

Legirion ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:20:38 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Although this is true there are a few alternatives that can also work for some people. I'm sure this is an unpopular opinion, but maybe somebody will appreciate it.

If you are buying a house save up extra money for furniture you'll need and maybe a bit you don't. Also, make sure you have money to fix stuff and pay a few months of your mortgage, if you have one.

Another alternative is friends and family giving you some stuff they don't need anymore and slowly replacing it.

If I couldn't have afforded a house and everything that comes with it I would've just stuck to an apartment, but most of my furniture came from my apartment, so I guess starting in an apartment and then moving into a house later can also work out.

In my case however it is actually cheaper or about the same as my rent to pay for my house and the bills rather than how much my rent was, so I figured it would make sense to put that money toward an asset if I could.

Urtehnoes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:55:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for this. Bought my first place in January and I've still not bought any furniture or appliances. I basically need everything furniture wise and all the appliances WORK but are literally all 25 years old except the toaster. So overwhelming just even thinking about where to start.

bugginout888 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:03:54 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

No they didn't. It was furnished with what they thought they could afford. They bought a crappy couch and upgraded it along the way.

OldSoul93 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:06:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! Also if you get your parents/family/whoever's real wood furniture, you can modernize it by refinishing! Literally anyone can refinish. My wife and I were going to go spend $2k on new bedroom/living room furniture. Instead we're refinishing all of my wood furniture, that my grandparents gave me, and it makes me feel better, cause now I don't have to ever part with those items. We go to Habitat's Restore, and find tons of furniture there. I just bought a coffee table for $25, and it was hand made! Also we avoided spending $1k for a couch, since my in laws are giving us their year old sectional.

shaggytits ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:13:35 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

i don't relate to this post at all. i furnished my apartment almost entirely for free via craigslist. and not with junk either. lots of good shit on there. i guess not everyone lives in a city, but even then you have thrift shops, fb groups, etc. furniture is one of the easiest things to find deals on because it takes up a lot of space and people generally just want it gone when they're ready to replace it.

puss_parkerswidow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:31:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

For the most part, we did the same, and our house looks great (to me, anyway.) I like antiques, and they're pretty easy to score without spending much.

Edit: If you live near a military base of any sort, definitely check Craigslist often! Military families move a lot, and many very good furniture and appliance items are often free or very cheap. There's a Navy base near me and I constantly see washers, dryers, refrigerators, couches, etc. for free, and in great condition.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:15:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, I've been living on my own for almost 15 years and I'm just now feeling like I have grown up furniture. My first apartment I slept on a futon mattress on the floor, watched tv standing on a milk crate, and ate with fast-food silverware. I remember my first shopping trip, I bought a shower curtain, a cutting board (still have) and a silverware tray (still have). No one prepares you for not having basics like a shower curtain lol. Every couple years we upgrade some items in the house. Slowly we go from having an items we need but don't like, to items we actually are proud to have guests see. I've learned most good furniture IS expensive so wait to buy the good stuff. This week I'm buying my first ever set of China dinnerware, feel like an adulting win :)

puss_parkerswidow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:28 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We just bought our first ever dinnerware and it's great! We are in our 40s and had used mixed pieces of this and that for many years. What I bought wasn't expensive- a 40$ set of plain white china from Amazon. I chose it because no matter what you do, pieces always get broken. I can and will order a back up of the same set, so that as pieces break, we can grab one out of the box.

masta ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:49:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yes this. Very must this point in today's world, we all emerge into the world in fully furnished homes, from a different era.

I'd like to also make a point here about today's furniture, and fixtures. They are mostly CRAP! Please do some research into the topic, and I mean spend a year on the topic or something ridiculous like that. Know that most furniture sold today is made of "engineered wood", so pretty much saw dust mixed with glue to for a kind of wood polymer, then covered with a veneer which is a millimeter thick layer of real wood. A sort of wooden wall paper for furniture. There are a lot of fabulous positives for this new world reality of furniture. Hard wood is heavy, and engineered wood is not heavy. It's inexpensive to manufacture, and much more repeatable. That's about it, to purchase real hard wood furnishing is expensive and requires a dedicated craftsman to make the thing you buy. So it's an investment, and it takes time to fully invest in fine furniture.

Buyer beware, the furniture industry sells engineered wood products as if they are fine hardwood furniture. That is to say they have at some point in the past discontinued the hardwood furniture, replaced with engineered wood furniture, but kept the same prices. That caused actual hardwood furniture to sky rocket in price as a differentiation, simple market economics there.

DeLee2600 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:53:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This was one of the best pieces of advice I got from an ex-in law. He told me basically the same thing. Take your time... slowly get what is needed; not just wanted

Martial_Nox ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:54:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Take the labels off of your glass tomato sauce jars. Use said jars as drinking glasses. I've built up a nice full set of them and I've had multiple people ask where I bought them. Added benefit if you keep the lids you can put a lid on whatever you were drinking and stick it in the fridge.

northlane87 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:19:42 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m about to move into my first place and nobody, not once, has ever said this to me. Iโ€™ve been buying things little by little over time and itโ€™s really adding up.

Glad to hear itโ€™s normal to have a very empty house.

Krekirk ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:32:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Good point. I would add a bit of advice also: 1. If you don't like doing "yard work, DON'T BUY A HOUSE WITH A YARD. You can destroy the resale value of your home and your neighbors' homes by letting the outside fall apart. Don't buy more home than you are willing and able to clean and maintain, inside and out.

kreusch1 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 11:22:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is one of the biggest problems with my generation (millennials). It took our parents years to buy a house/car/furnishings/etc. We cannot expect to have all those things immediately and go broke trying to do so. Live within your means, you will get where you want to be through budgeting and planning.

I personally love Goodwill and have picked up great wall art, decorations, and my book collection (over a year of hunting for thr GoT and LOTR series lol) for next to nothing. Everything is unique and mismatched to some degree but adds to the story

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swearinerin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:43:42 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My entire work wardrobe is from Express. About 80% from the sale/clearance section because some things are just too expensive. But others bought full price because I liked/needed it. And I am one of the most professional dressed people at my job (elementary teacher)

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swearinerin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:16:54 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yea I get you. My mom told me I needed a REAL suit when I finished school and was applying for jobs. She took me to Macy's and we picked out a tahari suit jacket and skirt and a shirt WITH tailoring as I'm short. But before we left I told her if it was more than 150 she was paying the rest as that's all I am willing to spend. I LOVE my suit but if I paid the full price for it I would NOT be happy.... she insisted on a 'real' suit that matches instead of a blazer and a nice skirt or pants so I told her she could pay the rest and thankfully she agreed.

Glad you got out of it!

NYgiantsfan89 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:56:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I love looking at the free category on Craigslist, offer up, let go, etc.

Michamus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:23:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I haven't paid for a single piece of furniture, other than mattresses. I plan on keeping that record rolling.

OzCommenter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:08:08 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Until I was about 50 years old, the only furniture I'd bought in my life was: One small side table with a mosaic pattern in the top, at an art show, so really, it was art as well as furniture. Used IKEA Billy bookshelves.

Everything else came from friends and relatives getting rid of stuff, a business closing (you can make desks, kitchen tables, and even a chic tall platform bed from display tables!) or university move-out weekend.

bhbull ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:21:19 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yup. And the car I drive to drop you off at school is not my first car. There were many rust buckets before it.

abandoningeden ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:51:25 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm in year 7 in my house, the whole time I've wanted a round table for my kitchen instead of the small rectangle table I got off the street with 2 matching chairs (we used folding chairs when anyone came over). But year 1 we bought a couch, year 2 we bought a bedroom set, years 3-6 we had to pay for hospital bills and a crib and some furnishing for my kid's room...and in year 7 my friend moved and gave away her beautiful perfectly good round table for free, and I got that + a nice wooden dresser for my kid's room when she did.

TargetBoy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:54:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also, your parents likely have things they inherited from other relatives. 50% of the nice furniture in my house has been handed down as a result of deceased relatives.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:57:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And don't be ashamed of dumpster diving! So far this year I've gotten a beautiful wood and metal table and a pretty nice charcoal grill from the dumpster behind my apartment. Sure, the top of the table is a little rough, but I think it gives it character. Just clean and disinfect and you're all set.

juniebrunner ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:59:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I just bought a house (2nd one), and being as I have lived in apts and moved a lot in between, I had the bare minimum (thanks minimalism!). Everyone is like oooh what are you going to put there? and there? and there? um...nothing. I don't understand why people feel that need to go out and spend on things just to fill up space. When I find something I TRULY love then I will buy it. But I'd rather wait and find that than to just fill a space with something bought out of a store just because its there. I DID treat myself to a new king size bed because Ive wanted one FOREVER and just never had the space. Now that's all I have in my bedroom and its fabulous.

CarneAsadaSteve ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:59:38 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

seeing everyone talk about growing up in houses makes me feel shitty i grew up in a tiny apartment.

poverty and lack of motivation sucks lol

Chimpcandomyjob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:07:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have a couch and tv stand I pulled off the curb on garbage day, and a hand-me-down dresser from a neighbor. I down-sized all my electronics into a good laptop. I've owned nice things in the past, but I don't care enough about then to own nice things now. It's note my style. Dave Ramsey rule #1: avoid stuffitis, and Fight Club, "the things you own end up owning you," have stuck with me, and when I buy stuff, it's function over form. And quality, because buy once, cry once.

Auchenflower ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:09:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Be a minimalist instead of filling your house with shit. I'm in a generation of Australian's that are forever locked out of the housing market. So that means a lifetime of renting, which means a lifetime of moving around. The thought of having as much furniture and useless crap like decorations as my parents is horrifying.

pmormr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:46:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Wish somebody would tell my mom this. "Why don't you have this?" "Why don't you have that?" "You really should have a 'x'."

I'm not made of money mom.

Pigsin5pace ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:04:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Those in your early 20s do not be afraid to trash pick. There are TONS of good furniture thrown away due to people moving or not wanting to pay for storage, especially in cities. My house is just about fully furnished and I bought 30 dollars worth of furniture, everything else I found on the curb. Just have to take some time to clean and fix it up and its good as new! Also shipping pallets can be used to make almost any form or decoration or furnishing, just have to put in time and effort!

Pengwynn1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:41:19 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I would also say a house furnished over time is far more personal than one filled with generic big-box store stuff bought in the style of the month.

d_rickards ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:59:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My wife and I laugh every morning...our towels were wedding presents and we will be married 17 years in August.

You can accumulate wealth slowly over time or accumulate debt quickly and pay interest slowly over time.

Dealer's choice.

Downvotes-All-Memes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:18:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

When looking at my SO's friends new houses, I was astonished at all the nice shit they had in their kitchen. She explained to me "yeah, when you get married people give you stuff..."

Oh. Yeah that explained a lot. It might have been a subtle hint from her, but I like my Salvation Army pots and pans and utensils.

yeah-what ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:24:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

But you have to spend a small fortune on the wedding to get all the good crap. My husband and I eloped. No huge pile of expensive presents resulted, but not having to pay a huge amount for the wedding made up for that.

WastingTimeIGuess ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:29:34 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I remember an old boss told me "Get the cheapest furniture you can or something you'll love for a long time." About 3/4 of my house is still furnished by Ikea...

fishsupreme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:33:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And I think this is especially hard for people who go into high-earning careers to remember.

There's a huge difference between making $100k a year like your parents, and having been making $100k a year for 20 years like your parents.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:35:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I just got a stand up paddleboard, as I love surfing but the east coast doesn't fire consistently enough for me to surf as much as I'd like, and a paddleboard will be great for those smaller days. I also got a wall mount for it so it would take up less room. It's now my favorite home decoration. Looks great and actively improves my life.

DrMasterBlaster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:31:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Hell 90% of my furniture is from my parents or grandparents. We have nice furniture, but that's because they had nice furniture.

JAN02000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:59:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We bought our first house when we were in grad school at night. It was a fixer-upper. We bought cheap IKEA furniture, both new and used. The dogs ruined the furniture. By the time we moved out, we could barely give that crap away.

When we moved cross-country, I got furloughed (fuck Mitch McConnell and the other cleft-asshole morons in Congress). I spent my days either biking or combing thrift stores for furniture. We used to get lots of compliments on our decor, especially my thrift store finds.

I'm now 35 with two small kids, two old dogs, and not enough time in the day (why the hell am I on reddit?). The dogs have ruined the faux-leather couch and have done a number on all our floors and some of the interior doors and moldings. I love them, but when they pass, they are NOT getting replaced. The small children have ruined the dining room table and an end table (why the hell did she CHEW on an end table?). And we are DROWNING in clutter. The compliments on our decor are few and far between. If I could spend a weekend just purging half our crap and donating it / selling it / throwing it in the trash, I would.

Moral of the story: buy stuff that lasts, and as little of it as possible. You'll eventually end up drowning in junk anyways.

SkyRW ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:29:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My parents have all their furniture from thrift stores. Probably spent a few hundred dollars on it total. It's all restored, high quality mid-century modern furniture, probably in total valued at over $20,000. So yes, thrift stores are great.

VerbatumTurtle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:44:32 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Probably should move to a different thread at this point in the comments, but I blew up on her last night. I couldn't handle it anymore. She was yelling at me for not cleaning the liter last morning and I told her it was because I woke up late. I overslept... probably my body trying to keep up sleep from working almost 24hrs on Friday and Saturday. I don't know if that's a thing, but in short. I overslept. I ran out the door to my full-time job and was an 1:30hr late. I didn't grab my lunch either, and she doesn't like it when I spend money on lunch so I went without... maybe it was a combination of exhaustion or me being hungry when I go home from not eating breakfast or lunch... but I finally blew up at her for yelling at me about the cat box. I don't like the cats. I hate the cats, she wants the cats not me.

I told her that I was late and I had to run into work. She says to me "it takes 5 mins to clean the cat box." " you want to let your pregnant wife and daughter smell that?"

This is the point I blew up. Of course I don't want my wife and daughter to smell cat pee and shit... but I also don't want to lose my job or make a bad impression, I just got a new supervisor at work and he is trying to change things and make things more efficient at work... and sometimes that means letting people go and hiring new people... so the last thing I wanted in that situation in the morning was to make my boss pissed... I gave him some excuse about cats though... that was funny to hear me explain...

I just couldn't take it. I try to do my best and sometimes it feels like I always fall short. I shouldn't probably talk to a counselor instead of Reddit.. but I enjoy talking into the void about my frustration and you guys do have some awesome comments of encouragement sometimes... xD

I stormed out of my home and slept in my car. I haven't been back since and I'm wearing blue jeans and a shirt at work right now... dress code is business casual... fml

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:54:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is great advice and all, but my SO and I just bought our first house and went the complete opposite direction with furnishing. We bought good quality furniture (Pottery Barn, Crate and Barrel, Restoration Hardware, etc.) as well as brand new appliances right away. We had the cash on hand, but rather than spending it all, we opened up a new credit card with 0% financing for 15 months and put everything we bought on it. So not only did we not have to drop ~$14K at once, we gained ~$500 in rewards money from the credit card. Also, instead of slowly furnishing our home, we bought items that we loved, we won't pay a penny in interest, and we don't have to live in a barren home with empty rooms. We're pretty frugal overall so this might not work for everybody, but I'm very happy with our decision.

akseitz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:52:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Good advice! The same is true of the house itself. My parents just put in brand new hardwood flooring and carpet through their entire house. It was very expensive. Simultaneously, my wife and I put in some cheap (but decent enough!) carpet in a couple bedrooms that really needed it. It cost us very little and, while it's nothing compared to what my parents just got installed, I'm happy to save the money for now and do a bigger upgrade in the future.

By_Worfs_Beard ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:27:38 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Wonderful advice! I feel compelled to say this since my fiance and I just moved into a new place but while it's certainly easier and more initially satisfying to fill a new home with Ikea, Walmart or Target furniture, it will be better to save up and get a few nice pieces that will be able to stay with you longer. While the "look" of the house may be improved with cheaper furniture, their day-to-day usage and lifespan will quickly prove inadequate. Nothing beats solid wood furniture.

Flea markets, yard sales, and goodwill can be a great avenue to a informative restoration project that leaves you with a beautiful, longlasting piece of furniture.

shozzlez ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:21:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Hey you wipe IKEA's name out of your mouth! It's not at the same low quality level as Walmart. And they have meatballs.

marshmallowhug ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:32:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My parents furnished our room all-Ikea when they moved to their first house 17 years ago, and the furniture is still all there and all functional, except the chairs, which, admittedly, I was rough on. They did replace the couches two years ago, but I suspect that my mom got rid of them largely because she couldn't find a place to store them while she took out carpeting and put down flooring. The couch now is much better quality however.

shredderrrrrr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I think it really depends on each person's use of particular items. For instance, my wife and I bought everything from IKEA 5-10 years ago and everything except our kitchen chairs still work perfectly.

I don't understand this "solid wood furniture" thing. What the hell are you doing to your couches that destroy them so quickly?

vfxdev ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:21:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

No, you see baby boomers could buy a home and furnish the entire thing by working just a couple days at minimum wage.

SleepyConscience ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:56:28 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If you're looking for high quality on a budget and you're fairly handy, building your own furniture is not as hard you might think, particularly if you keep the design simple and avoid curves. I had no prior woodworking experience and I recently built a coffee table using free plans I find online. If you check my post history there are pictures I posted on the woodwork sub. The materials cost a total of about $60, including all the wood, stain, screws, wood putty, polyurethane and sandpaper. The wood was just regular old pine I bought at Home Depot. If I were going to do this again I would probably spring for higher grade wood, not so much because the pine doesn't look nice (I picked boards with the best grain patterns and the stain really brought them out) but because some of the boards were warped which made getting everything flush at the end a lot of extra work. Also pine is very soft wood which means it's easy to work, but also easy to accidentally leave marks in. I picked the Ana White Tryde Coffee Table mainly because the design was simple and didn't require any special woodworking techniques or tools, but there are many other free plans out there. All you really need to build the one I did is some kind of saw and a drill. The ideal saw would be a table saw, but even just a $25 jig saw would work fine. You could even do it with a hand saw, but there's a lot of cutting involved and it would get pretty tiresome. A random orbit sander, a power hand planer, and counter sink drill bit would also be helpful but aren't 100% necessary. You can get the sander for $25 on Amazon. I think a planer is more like $50. The bit is just a few bucks. I only needed the planar because of the aforementioned warped boards. They were also not quite round at the corners which I used a bench planer to fix, but you wouldn't need to do that if you just bought better grade wood that was already square enough to build with.

fishtarco ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:02:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My best advise is to not spend decades filling up your house with stuff. One day you'll have to move it to another place. Then one day someone else will have to figure out what to do with it. Neither is worth having a bunch of stuff.

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HarryP22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:54:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah who the fuck are these people saying they've spent ยฃ3500 on a couch? No wonder you're fucking broke. I furnished my whole house already, refurbished and redecorated in 3 months and it cost me ยฃ3000. The biggest being carpet, And it looks fucking awesome. If you learn to do stuff yourself it's actually pretty easy and a hell of a lot cheaper.

richhomiekarma ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:03:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

ya this post made me feel bad haha. i did the same pretty much except my couch is a different material lol. got most of my if not all my shit new but.. sales and floor models help. and i figure ill be living there for a few more years unless shit hits the 7th floor ceiling fan so i might as well make it comfy

that and i think, assuming your like me to some extent, being a debt free human with savings puts us ahead of a lot of people in this thread, believe or not! and thus the greater ability to furnish up a place :)

shredderrrrrr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:51:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's one of the problems with this subreddit--people tend to get uppity and talk condescendingly about people spending their money in a way they don't agree with. They just assume anyone who isn't buying secondhand furniture is going into debt.

shredderrrrrr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:49:10 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Ok, I'm glad I'm not only person thinking this.

My wife and I are furnishing our place right now and, while it's certainly not cheap, I don't see how this is something that needs to be spread out over decades. A year or two? Sure. But decades? For fucks sake.

goldenfishcrackers ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:31:49 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

They're talking about all the nice things a lot of our parents have now that they didn't have when they started. Of course most people have the basics in the beginning, but over the course of a decade, my parents put hundreds of thousands of dollars into renovations/ luxury furniture. The same goes for most of my peers' parents. The point is, most people can probably acquire basic starter furniture, but I can't spend $12k on a bed frame in my new condo, or come even close to the luxury I lived in in high school. Heck, I don't even plan on furnishing my guest bedroom at all for a few years until I'm better established. Guests can have my bed and I'll sleep on an air mattress.

houndi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:25:28 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Why would anyone pay $12k for a bedframe? What do you get for the money you wouldn't get for like one tenth of the cost?

I don't think I've ever seen a bed, a whole bed with everything, that has cost more than around 5kโ‚ฌ in my life.

goldenfishcrackers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:33:11 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's pretty outrageous, I know, but at least that gets used every day and looks nice. They spent $25k on caskets for each of my grandparents which I find absolutely mind boggling for something that gets buried. A contractor I was speaking with worked with a lady who spent 34k on a custom made door, and threw it out before even installing it because she decided she didn't like it. Some people have too much money.

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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:06:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Steve Jobs famously had almost no furniture in his house when he was single and in his twenties. (Sorry for the shameless plug, but I felt it was relevant)

PieRowFirePie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:52:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Built house two years ago... Still buying shelving units... Have yet to buy a new piece of furniture, still most certainly on list.

Sarene44 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:12:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

When we moved from an apartment to a townhouse, my dad cautioned me against buying a bunch of furniture just to make it "feel full". We've been here for three years now and took our time filling up each room to function the way we wanted it to, when we could afford it.

The next step is slowly replacing the things that are actually falling apart, like my bedside tables.

NO_B8_M8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:30:25 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've always thought like this but a few years ago my ex thought if we moved in together we could just afford loads of nice furniture to fully furnish a house :/

She earned the same as me at the time and there's no way we could have done that. Not at all.

Nitrodaemons ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:24:21 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Congratulations on your escape!

wafflesarefuntoeat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:31:34 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It wasn't until last year my parents got a matching living room set and kitchen set. One of my grandmother's friends was moving and didn't want the Hassel of it. She was the typical old lady and basically everything was plastic wrapped. So they got a kitchen table set with a runner, a reclining couch, and love seat for free. If you live in a small area like myself ask family members if they know of people moving, some people just don't want the Hassel and won't charge you for (particularly heavy furniture) if you come and get it. I see a lot of furniture discounted or free if someone is to come and get it.

005amazu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:34:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Recently moved in with my partner from the city out to the country! We let our new neighbours in the building we live know we have very little furniture. A lot of them are old and ended up giving us a bunch of stuff. Those who didn't give us things told us about auctions to go to and the various reuse centres (basically free stores at dumps) and now we've furnished most of our apartment for about $40!

If you're in the city, definitely try to go out to the country and find estate sales, auctions, and thrift stores.

billyboy1122 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:36:11 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've run my life just like how I played "The Sims" when I was a kid: Buy cheap crap now, replace it with what you really want later when you have enough money. And if you sell the older thing, that gives you some extra money to put towards it!

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:39:06 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

100% correct. The girlfriend and I bought a house and she was mad for buying brand new things, sofa's etc. All I wanted to do was decorate the house to a good level and get what we can when we can for what we can afford. That meant charity shops etc.

Didn't go down well with her, but she realises it now especially after talking to her friends and how they've struggled to get a houe furnished.

hotwingbias ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:39:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We could buy a brand new sofa...but why? Got a killer one with a sleeper pull-out on CL for $100. Just got a beautiful stand up easel for $40 at a thrift store.

spatulon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:41:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely. My parents live very comfortably now, but in hindsight that really wasn't the case when I was very young. They just did a good job of hiding it.

I know now, for example, that one year my parents couldn't afford to buy a birthday present for my sister, so my dad found a broken tricycle and welded it himself to fix it up.

Still, I am a little jealous about the state of the housing market when they were my age. They still live in the house they bought then, and it's way, way bigger than anything I could afford now (and I'm in a relatively better-paid profession).

LeeKinanus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:41:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And go to auctions. Do not ever buy retail. You will save so much $ if you take your time and get what you need. Source: I work for an auction house and see incredible furniture go for next to nothing.

Wondercat87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:42:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I tell this to people all the time! The pressure that some people put themselves under to have a fully furnished place right away is truly real!

I have many friends who just bought homes or are living in their first real place, and they feel immense pressure to have their home looking like a real life pinterest board.

Relax! It's taken years for some people to cultivate that gallery wall, or to get their bedroom furniture.

I'm a big fan of garage sales, thrift stores and even just curbside finds. Sometimes people throw out perfectly good things. Sure, that's not for everyone. Some people think it's gross. But I've found many things that were worthwhile for free. Of course I check over the items and clean them up. I do have limitations, I would never take a used mattress or couch of course.

Even talking to neighbours who are moving can be a great way to get pieces. I lived in an apartment and when the older couple next to us were moving, they offered us some pieces for free.

Sometimes friends and family are downsizing or just upgrading and are wanting to part with things for free or a reasonable cost.

I worked with a lady who had moved in with her bf several years before and had a bunch of stuff that she no longer needed because they had duplicates of those items. I got a free dishware set, blender, lots of kitchen items.

Rummage sales are also great!

thatonecoolkid99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:43:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Fantastic post OP. I grow up middle class and my parents had fully stocked, all oak furniture. So when I moved into my first apartment just recently (yey!) it felt understandably empty! Luckily, my old desk and dresser were small enough to transport and they donated me some little fold-up chairs and a table to eat on. You don't need that much to get started!

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ fat_tire_fanatic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:46:02 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks! Also that empty gets filled faster than you will ever believe if/when you have kids. Save some room for the 30 tons of stuff that seems to magically appear with them.

Dharmagal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:44:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Husband and I are moving cross country and buying furniture that is already in the house we are buying. The home wasn't listed this way, but I asked, and am glad I did. It's cheaper than buying new or transporting our old stuff, most of which are thrift finds and castoffs from friends. Only a few family pieces are we bringing. We are taking other items (books, clothes, kitchen stuff, tools etc) in a uhaul which we can manage ourselves which keeps the cost of the move down.

Borngrumpy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:44:51 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also remember that for most of us we didn't start with nice big homes, we worked our way up from little shit holes as well.

garoodah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:46:22 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Function over form, especially when just starting out. I'm only a couple years out of college so i can attest to this. A chair is a chair, you sit on it. You wont spend hours admiring it in person, unlike people that do on esty, pinterest, and instagram.

Decyde ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:48:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Remeber, bedbugs are a horrible thing to get so don't pick up used furniture on the side of the road because you need it and just put it in your home.

Also the same thing goes about furniture discounted on Craigslist or elsewhere.

Hairyballzak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:02:31 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Bought a couple genuine leather couches, solid Danish oak dining room table and matching chairs, and a bunch of other furniture from estate sales for dimes on the dollar. I wouldn't recommend anything with cloth like a mattress because of bugs and body fluids, but hard and leather pieces will save you tons of money

newsjunkee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:05:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yea...and as an old guy with so much crap in his house I sometimes wish for a house fire, ENJOY the emptiness for a while. Enjoy knowing what you have and where it is. You will miss it when it's gone

Prof_Peer_Pressure ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:06:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I know there's a lot of recommendations here already on how to find cheap furnishings, but I thought I'd just add my 10 cents for those who live in larger cities/towns.

If your area has a decent student population, find out the date on which their tenancy agreements end. It tends to be the case that everyone moves house on the same day (near me it's 1st July) and around this time many people dump their unmovable furnishings (sofas, tables, paintings, etc) on the street if they can't be crammed into a little hatchback.

By combing the streets at this time of the year I've managed to come into possession of two armchairs, a sofa, a 6ft square painting and a collection of office equipment. Had I bought all of this new, or even secondhand, I wouldn't have been able to afford my beautiful new bike.

tenest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:08:06 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Has your mom or dad ever complained about a particular piece of furniture? Subtly suggest you could use it giving them a legitimate excuse to replace it.

WapGod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:08:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I was just telling myself this today. I broke up with my girlfriend months ago and I've been trying to get my new home to feel the way it did when we were together but I haven't been able to do it. Then I realized today while I was shopping that all of the things that we had when I let were accumulated over time and that it's unlikely that you'll get everything you want and need all at once.

Pro Tip: Getting married will get you a shit load of appliances.

slootfactor_MD ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:10:28 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

For us furniture was a must once we bought the house - we had been living in a shitty apartments with furniture that was falling apart for a few years while we saved money. Once we had enough money for the down payment and closing expenses, we ended up waiting an extra year to buy the house to get enough money to buy the furniture. By then time we moved, our crappy old furniture didn't even make it to the curb without falling apart. We wore those suckers DOWN. It was exciting to move into a house with brand new furniture, and to be totally debt free from it felt SO good.

-justsayin- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:12:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This. Couldn't agree more with it. My fiancรฉ and I have had an apartment furnished almost completely with found or hand me down items. Not until recently have we started to replace items one at a time, as we can afford them. We've always been of the mindset that house furnishings are not as important as things like savings, loan repayments, everyday items like food, shoes and a good bed. We developed a small income stream that finances any apartment improvements very slowly over time, so that we are not out of pocket for any of it.

Akephalos- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:22:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is such a great thing for people to hear. My SO and I have always wanted this room or that room. For years we've only just bought pieces that we think would look great in "that room" that we love, which always changes. Years later we have such an awesome, unique, bunch of rooms that we could never have dreamt of. It's us and it's awesome, and it's so cool when people come over and say how great our place looks, I think if we had bought the "room" we wanted at the time, our place would look sterile and probably like a hotel room.

MrK_HS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:24:10 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I actually enjoy more sober looking houses. Easier to clean and maintain. Also this rule is always right: "less is more".

bdelswag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:24:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for the reminder. Just bought a house and have been feeling stressed out about trying to make it perfect, I need to relax

Nickvr628 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:25:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also remember that when you leave home, do not expect to live the same way you lived with your parents. You will not be able to support that right away, be ready to downsize significantly.

firestormchess ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:25:54 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also, maybe you just don't need to stuff every room full of stuff. My condo is sparsely furnished. Maybe it's because my personal style is Mid-Century Modern, but when there is open space, every piece of furniture gets it's time to shine and the art invites you to look at each individual piece, instead of it just being a collage of randomness on my walls.

RadioHitandRun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:33:13 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm getting tired of sitting on a couch I took from a closing office's waiting room that is falling apart leaving bits of fake leather all over the floor when ever my dog wants to nap on it, and I'm not kicking the dog off because she's adorable as fuck on it.

I want my gaming captains chairs...and I want them now.

shrimpossible ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:33:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is great advice. It's also a great way to foster a discriminating taste for furnishings. One will be more likely to acquire items that are truly special and really fit well within a household if the addition of each one is a special event. Also, when looking on craigslist and suchlike places, patience in picking up unique/antique items really pays off in spades.

HyperbolicTrajectory ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:33:51 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My first placed was furnished entirely with stuff I got for free: an old fridge/freezer that someone was replacing with a newer model; a washer/dryer no longer needed because someone was moving into a new house with a built-in. My living room furniture was all being thrown out by the local council because it was old and didn't have fire safety tags. I bought cutlery, curtains, lampshades and bedsheets, and that was it.

It looked like crap for a while, but I gradually upgraded things when I could; I scoured freecycle, second-hand and charity shops for solid, durable furniture that was built to last, and made the occasional "forever" purchase of a new item of durable solid wood furniture. I took my collection with me from rental to rental, and soon started getting compliments on how awesome my places looked...

Fifteen years later I've got the best-furnished house of anyone I know, and I reckon I've spent half as much gradually buying good furniture as I would have done constantly replacing cheaply made stuff. My first "new" purchase - a solid oak bed - still looks beautiful, and that fridge/freezer that was being thrown out is still humming away full of food in the garage.

TL;DR: make do with free until you find good that you can afford.

zippy72 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:36:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I can relate to that.

My ex and I used to go to auctions. Picked up a 100 year old solid oak dining table for ยฃ6. Cost more than that to hire the van that got it home.

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zippy72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:51 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We once had a spare fridge after buying a new one when we changed the kitchen. Gave it to the local food bank, who then passed it on to someone who needed it. Throwing it away wouldn't have felt right.

AlyssaJMcCarthy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:34:42 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I remember going food shopping after moving out for the first time and then remembering that I had none of the condiments that I was used to having at home. Spent a pretty penny on stuff that wasn't even good that day. Then later when I bought a house I realized I would need all kinds of lawn equipment that I didn't have.

gt35r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:36:54 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I actually really enjoy moving into a new place with less stuff because you can essentially start off with zero clutter. Each time my gf and I have moved, we make sure to throw away stuff that was in the way or seemed to cause clutter the previous time. Granted it's not much but each time it's gotten cleaner and cleaner every time we move. I actually love simplistically furnished and designed homes.

HellYeahBelle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:37:10 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone touts Craigslist as the end-all, but if [Nextdoor](nextdoor.com) is a viable option for you, I'd highly suggest using it. A lot of people post classifieds and free stuff all the time. And you don't have to lug your brand-new find a country mile back home (unless...you actually live in the country). Additional plus; you can keep up with the general goings-on of your neighborhood via the posts and discussions.

First, because there's a higher level of accountability: you have to use address verification to sign up and use it.

Second, there is a sense of security through proximity: users only see other users/posts from their own neighborhood or nearby ones; combined with the fact that addresses have to be verified, there is less incentive to screw someone over/do shady stuff (this is not to say that people won't be shady or quesrionable, but rather that sites with this level of verification can reduce that).

Third: you get to know your neighbors. Or at least who's around.

Rpizza ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:38:02 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed

I too started out with the basics. One tv, cheap table set etc one nice bedroom set etc

Then slowly I started replacing them with better items or getting more things. When I bought my house I added even more items within a few years time.

My kids are now living with a house full of things from as far back as they remember. But it took time

Same as I remember with my parents

tb8592 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:39:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

If you live alone consider also there's 2 of your parents. There's 1 of you who likely makes significantly less. Sometimes you gotta live a little ratchet for a little while and that's ok. Any of your friends still living at home who want to complain about your place can go fuck themselves. .

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:41:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Not only did I get the vast majority of my furniture off craigslist, as I've upgraded I've managed to resell most of it for roughly the same price (sometimes more) that I purchased it.

If you need a $30 kitchen table for a year or two until you can afford a better one - get a $30 kitchen table, and resell it for $50 when when you've saved enough for a better table.

mikeymikeymikey1968 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:44:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have waited months and months for items of furniture to pop up on Craigslist. It's worth the wait. Have patience.

H0rridus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:45:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Great advice. After 10 years of being married we bought our first new couch. It was what we wanted and we saved and paid in full, no financing, no credit card debt. We even got a 12% discount for paying in full at the time. Work at it little by little by priority.

RossBoss95 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:45:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I found that when I moved into my first place, I got the basics (cabinets, bed, kitchen appliances, couch, tables) and the place felt nice and big and not too cluttered

skaterrj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:47:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Plus, if you move (likely, if you're just starting out), you'll have that much less furniture to move, which saves trouble, time, and money.

marcagio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:48:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

In debt here! Don't do like me, after some time you'll realize that the furniture is just there, it doesn't make your life better in any way... If anything, just make sure you have a nice mattress to sleep on... the rest, even if it's old and ugly, will work... It's just furniture, it's not going to run away or complain... If you renew everything, you'll feel proud for maybe a week or two but when you realize you have to work your ass off a few years just to payback what you already have it's not fun and it feels like being in some kind of prison... There's a reason why the dollar sign is the graphic reprensentation of a snake behind bars.

MowMdown ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:48:42 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The only reason I don't buy used is because people are nasty and bugs are also nasty and I don't need bugs in my house.

DJWalnut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:34:11 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

wooden furniture can be cleaned off to make sure there are no bugs. it's the stuffed fabric stuff you have to watch out for.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:49:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is actually really good, practical advice. When my SO and I bought our house and moved in together we were constantly bummed out about how empty it always looked. Since we don't believe in using credit to live outside our means, it's taken us 5 years of collecting and decorating to actually get decorations, decent furniture, and generally make the house look like someone lived there.

It doesn't happen overnight.

EuropeanLady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:56:11 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

For many people, living in an unfurnished or under-furnished house/apartment is depressing. It's easy to furnish a house in one go with simple, ordinary furniture and appliances without buying pricey antiques, period pieces or expensive art.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:22:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

tl:dr Decorating a home "in one go" is not easy if you are trying to make a house look like a home your parents would have spent decades furnishing.

Define "in one go". I mean... I guess if you have that kind of money or you are only buying from the thrift stores, yard sales, or second hand then sure. I've outfitted plenty of apartments that way but it was always a hodgepodge and the living space usually looked like a teenager lived there. Serviceable but not especially "nice".

Picture frames from target are regularly $10 - $20 a pop. Now buy 10 - 15 of them for family photos. Even generic art and framing from somewhere like Big Lots can run up to $150. Nick knacks, smaller decorum, shelving, bookcases, etc all quickly add up.

Decent furniture can run anywhere from $500 -$1200 a set for just one room. Now factor your dining room, bedrooms, guest room, office, etc.

Appliances... You could spend anywhere from $1000 to $3000 for just your average non flashy kitchen and laundry appliances. Not to mention electronics and the like.

Not many people have got it like that to just drop $10k on decorum. Especially if you have kids or aren't using credit. And besides... We're talking about how "your parents house" is furnished. Most older folks I've met who have well put together homes aren't buying from Ikea or the DAV.

EuropeanLady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:55 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone has a different idea of what "nice" means in terms of furnishing. Serviceable doesn't mean "like a teenager", it means comfortable and pleasantly lived-in. Decent kitchen and laundry appliances can be found for about $250 a piece slightly used, they don't need to be sparkling new and fancy. The walls can be decorated with photos in frames for $8-10 each.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:02 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

So.... Exactly what I said then?

Yes... As I already noted. It is possible to do that but it is out of the scope of this conversation. This conversation in particular is about curbing your expectations. Yes. It's possible to furnish your apartment on the cheap. No one said that it wasn't. On the other hand. No. It's not going to be as nice as your parents who have been curating their stuff for many years and more often than not have more disposable money to spend on furnishings than someone moving into their first apartment or buying their first home.

EuropeanLady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:53 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I think this thread is based on the assumption that the parents have some special lavish furnishings, appliances, and artwork. And again, "nice" means different things to different people. The only thing it doesn't mean is a depressingly empty place, devoid of furniture because the residents want to wait until they can accumulate some special antiques or to emulate someone else's style.

drag0nw0lf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:49:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

We furnished our house in about 10 years. We bought what we wanted to keep for a very long time, in many cases it took years of thinking about what we wanted and then saving up for it.

In the long run buying cheap furniture over and over becomes more expensive than buying more expensive pieces, if you ensure that they are well-constructed and not too trendy.

Edit to add: if you have family or friends offering you furniture to start with, don't turn it down. We lived with furniture we didn't really like for a long time, but it allowed us to have (for example) a dining table to use while we saved for what we really wanted.

alrashid2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:49:49 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Love this. My brother and his girlfriend just bought a house and furnished the entire thing within a month with nice appliances and furniture. Didn't seem like the smartest thing. THey could afford it, but now don't have much money to spend on themselves for other things now.

EuropeanLady ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:53:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, but they enjoy every minute of living in their new, completely furnished and well appointed home. This is practically priceless.

SCUMDOG_MILLIONAIRE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:00:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Not sure if this comment will land in here, but also consider making your own furniture. Obviously you wouldn't want to go and buy brand new tools just to accomplish this, but if you can borrow tools or if you already own some then you're probably good to go. but you can make great things with just a miter saw, jigsaw, and a sander. Add a handheld router and your options increase dramatically.

One of the easiest high-cost items to make is a bed... My king bed cost me $90 materials (mattress not included) and a Saturday to make.

Dining Tables, shelves, book cases, end tables, coffee tables... All that stuff is beginner-level to accomplish. I wouldn't recommend trying to make your own couch though.

Beyond making things, def buy second hand. The term" they don't make em like they used to" hold true for furniture especially. They actually used to use SOLID wood, can you imagine

Wmdonovan23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:03:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My first apartment I shared with my best friend during college. We shared a room that consisted of two twin mattresses on the floor and we went a week without power because we couldn't afford to turn it on yet. I look back on those times fondly.

Phantazein ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:05:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I wish more people realized this. I have a friend who got her first apartment after graduating college recently. She had pretty much every kitchen utensil you could ever want before she even moved and within the first week she was fully furnished with new furniture.

A month ago her car broke down and she couldn't afford to fix it.

EL_DIABLOW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:06:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Not sure how helpful it is for some but most furniture stores offer 0% APR financing. My fiancรฉ and I got a really really nice living room set for $75 a month for 24 months (but paid it off in a year)

jungleboogiemonster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:19:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I really enjoyed the journey towards furnishing my house, especially my kitchen. I spent a lot of time researching and picking out each piece as I could afford it. It really made me appreciate everything I have because each was hand picked with care. Like my toaster. I love my toaster! I mean, like really, really love my toaster. ( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ)

yeah-what ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:19:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. My first 2 bedroom apartment out of university felt huge and empty at first, but 4 years and 2 kids later it was feeling pretty small. Then we bought our house with 3 bedrooms. It too felt huge at first, but another 2 kids later, it felt pretty full and we finished the basement for a games room, office/workshop, bedroom, and bathroom. Now it feels pretty big again, and since we're done having kids and our youngest is 10 (oldest 18), the house has started feeling bigger again, as we get rid of the toys, etc. that little people accumulate. It feels pretty big when the oldest is away at college (with all the kitchen items he needed for his dorm coming from extras we accumulated, except a microwave). I look forward to further downsizing as the kids get older and start to leave home.

NewiePirate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:24:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This! We bought our house just over 3 years ago and just last week did we finally get a dining room table and chairs. For the past 3 years it has been an empty space. We only have the couch and just recently I picked up one of those papasan chairs used from a buy and sell group on facebook.

Kijiji, craigslist, buy and sell groups will be your friend. You can get some great lightly used furniture and decor and even some great custom refinished pieces for cheap!

AtticSquirrel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:25:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I furnished my place for $35 in a about a week using Craigs List and the NextDoor app. All quality stuff. Most of it was free. I wouldn't recommend getting a bed that way though, because of bed bugs. Another note: none of my stuff matches.

robot_steve ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:26:31 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Dude, at a certain age (I'm solidly middle aged), especially once your income is up and you get in the habit of buying a lot of things every pay check, you want to embrace the emptiness again. I have amassed so much crap, I want to get rid of some of it and go minimalist to some extent and spend more money on experiences rather than things or at least have fewer but higher quality or high use things. All that clutter causes stress and and overhead in terms of managing it, figuring out where to put it, the mental tax of remembering where it is, etc. Most of it I barely use. YouTube apparently read my mind and suggested this video which resonates a ton with me: https://youtu.be/3AhSNsBs2Y0

Cimexus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:27:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. We (married couple no kids) recently bought our first house and went from 900 square feet of apartment to 2100 square feet. Needless to say despite buying quite a bit of furniture there are still a few empty rooms! But we are taking the time to gradually accumulate good quality furniture rather than filling it with cheap crap.

turkey_gobbles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:28:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

What we have is handed down appliances and furniture, which is nice bc we didn't have the expense. It blows my mind how many people my age (mid 20's) are willing to bury themself in debt in order to keep up with the Jones's.

Fistedfartbox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:36:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My wife and I are about 9 years into a mortgage on a house that was already 10 years old when we bought it. This is some very sound advice. If I tried to count up all the home improvement projects I have all around me right now I'd probably fall off my chair.

How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time, that's how.

s0sicta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:42:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Every piece of furniture in my house was given to me or very cheap. I am part of the neighborhood social media called Nextdoor. In my neighborhood, people are constantly moving and throwing away or selling perfectly fine furniture. Like, I picked up a brand new box spring on the curb for free. It was still in the plastic. Goodwill sells decent furniture for cheap too. We got a couch for $10, a desk for $15 and a very cozy recliner for $5. You only have to go broke if you're looking for brand new- but I love my throwaways. I feel like I've given some great objects new purpose.

vanalla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:49:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Allllll of this. Took me over a year to furnish my first apartment with the most basic things. over time they will slowly stop being IKEA flatpack now.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:55:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Great advice! Always remember that you don't always have to have some of those things, either.

I also want to stress the importance that you can cheap out on some stuff, but not others. For example - don't cheap out on a television or couch!

sweeetneet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:55:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Craigslist before and after Christmas time is probably when I've seen the best stuff get put up. People are making space for new purchases anyway. Tvs and exercise equipment that are barely used!

knarlygoat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:56:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god this hits home for me. When I lived with my ex her parents had basically a second set of furniture plus what she had from college so we had a fully furnished house right out of school. Once we split and she moved out the house was empty and I started buying stuff like crazy. Now that I'm moving around more, I realize I should have just sucked it up and lived spartan for a few weeks before moving into a furnished home. I'm having to sell tons of things I bought because I can't take them all with me and I'm losing quite a bit of money on it all. My advice would be if you're renting, rent furnished until you are ready to buy a home. Otherwise it's just more junk you have to move from place to place and you will always lose money selling things you thought you needed in your old home.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:56:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I honestly still have no idea how people afford brand new matching sets of furniture...all my stuff is hand me downs or yard sale items, still looks great, and I'm not struggling to afford any of it.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:08:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

it helps if you time it around when your older relatives are dying or moving into a care home

my brother has some of granny's living room furniture and they look pretty sweet in his house. granny was very modern when she was younger so she had lots of 1950s 1960s style stuff

my other grandparents went for a more posh look with dark wood stuff

my parents love their victorian + north african & asian

i personally like victorian stuff

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yup! My grandma downsized from a giant house to a two-bedroom apartment at a $$$ care facility, so I got a bunch of her stuff, and it's WAY nicer than I could ever have bought for myself (without adding more debt, anyway). Glad grams had good (and expensive) taste!

AdrianBlack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:13:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

When someone told me this fact it floored me. I felt like a loser not having everything right away, but of course, how could I? When I realized the truth of this I felt silly for not seeing it on my own. Even now that I have the money to buy things, I still love the thrill of finding an awesome piece at the thrift store.

This post also reminds me of a great Mike Birbiglia bit: "When you're broke, everything you have is low to the ground," says Birbiglia, 38, recalling a dingy Queens room that he called home in his mid-20s. "You roll off your air mattress, grab your pants off the floor, cook noodles on a hot plate. One falls out of your mouth and you're like, 'It's not too far to pick up!'

Houstonguy1990 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:19:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is perfect timing for me to see this post. I just closed on my first home purchase last night! Luckily I have already acquired living room furniture and bedroom furniture over the last couple years, but I was starting to worry a little about having to do kitchen, yard equipment, appliances, and spare bedrooms all at once. Thank you for this advice! I will definitely keep it in mind!

MakatoKun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:26:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Another option if you're handy: build it. A lot of furniture is buildable, and you might even be able to make it look better than the pre-built ones. Also, you get that feeling of pride of having custom furniture.

idgf1590 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:42:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

LPT if you live in a college town, a lot of students with rich parents will throw their nice 2-3 year old furniture out once they graduate. Just cruise around town during mid June and pick up a new set of living furniture for free!

DarthKegger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:43:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Go to Goodwill to get some items if you really need things for your house. When I've moved a few times we've donated plenty of nice things to Goodwill that we just didn't want to keep moving. Tables, Chairs, and other furniture.

HaroldPelham ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:49:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Most of my furniture came from my grandparents' old house or from estate sales. It saved me a lot of money in getting quality furniture. I only bought two things new: a mattress and a dining set. The mattress my grandparents had was 25 years old, covered in urine stains and very uncomfortable. I couldn't keep it, as much as my dad tried to convince me it was practically brand new. I didn't have a dining set for two years. My grandparents' dining set was too big for my apartment and most things I found at estate sales were either too big or not something I would want to keep for a long time. So I spent a few thousand on that after searching for a few years. I don't have much furniture I wouldn't want to keep for the rest of my life.

saltyjello ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:49:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also stuff was made better then, so the rents had lots of hand me downs from their parents. In the day and age of disposable cheap crap, a 20yearold isn't going to get much in the way of furnishings from their parents.

Professional_Fartier ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:57:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Contents sales, estate sales. Local investment bank hires some hotshot out of Munich, brings him over to Toronto, puts him in a house and furnishes it with high-end stuff, a year later he is transferred to Tel Aviv and the furnishings are sold for pennies on the dollar. And remember, that guy hardly spent a minute at home and his wife and kids only came to visit that one time, so the furniture is basically new. Do a little negotiating with the contents sale main guy and you're off to the races.

Also garage sales of course. Half my nicest pieces are mine because the nice old guy or little old lady trusted my word that I'd use the item as a furnishing in my home, rather than flogging it on CL. Nothing massively valuable but nice well-kept pieces that my heirs will be happy to receive. Sure the house is a bit of a hodgepodge design-wise but IDC, it's the kind of house I always hoped I'd live in, filled with neat-o things and comfy chairs

Sazazezer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:18 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Took me far too long to learn this. I was constantly worried that i was making terrible progress on my house over the space of just a year.

Wasdare ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed! Don't forget about places such as craigslist to find killer deals or even freebies. A few weeks ago, while I was browsing the free section on craigslist, I came across someone who was moving to another state. She said it would've cost her more to ship her furniture than to buy it all new.

And this is how I was able to get a couch, love seat and matching nightstands for FREE. All were in great cosmetic condition, just a bit dirty.

Krickles88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:22:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my fucking Lord, the Reddit post meant to read.

My fiancรฉe and I closed last week and are trying to start getting moved into our new home....it's been pretty stressful and we need to realize this just takes tome

UsedToBeHot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I still get a thrill out of finding a great deal on eBay or Craigslist.

I once bought a Henredon 60" round table with 6 chairs for $1,200. The table was beautiful, the chairs were not. I sold the chairs on eBay for $2,000 and kept the table. When one of the table legs broke, Henredon replaced the entire base without charging me a dime. I told them I bought it used but they still stood behind their product.

I put the old broken base in a shed at my parents' house, and a neighbor's tree fell on the shed. The insurance company paid me $2,000 for the crushed Henredon base, even though I told them it was already cracked. I guess that Craigslist find ended up buying me a 60" round Henredon table top, a new base, AND $2,800. That was the deal that kept on giving, lol.

swearinerin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:32:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Damn... this is so helpful!!! I was sitting at my computer wanting to buy a chair for my new apartment (first time moving out after moved back after college, I have a real career and lived at home for a year already)

But you're right I don't NEED this stuff.... especially because when all is said and done and I've moved in. I would have spent just about $1500 furnishing the place and I really don't need to up that and spend more. I can take time and I don't need anything right away.

Thanks! Honestly you just saved me 150 bucks!

123hig ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:38:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

"Embrace the emptiness" is the single most important financial, spiritual, professional, and health advice that my crippling depression has ever given me.

ZannX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:44:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I had this realization when I was buying my first home. They didn't buy their first house until they were in their 40s. I was trying to buy a house at 25 that was at least as good as their current house. For some reason I felt I would be embarassed if I didn't. After a few years, I finallt realized what people meant by "starter home".

AnythingApplied ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:54:02 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also, we have more cheap options today like craigslist and Ikea. When I first got a home I only got cheap/free furniture and appliances and have been slowly replacing them with more expensive ones as they break, as I see good deals, or as I get recommendations or do research to find higher quality versions that are worth the money.

i_want_that_boat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm super late to the game, but I have to say something because I normally think the LPT's are pretty lame or common knowledge. This, however, was a fantastic reminder. I'm 28 and just starting to accumulate adult furniture and whittling away the dorm shit from target. You're so right. Thanks.

BastouXII ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:03:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Or start out with second hand furniture (given by friends and family who moved/changed theirs or bought used), then replace them one by one with some quality new pieces to your liking.

Azara1th ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:20:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I just moved and definitely am feeling this. I moved from a 2800sf house (which I had mostly furnished) to a 3600sf house. I've got another bedroom and foyer to furnish...

TurtleSayuri ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:25:22 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for the reminder. Recently, my mom was giving me a lecture to avoid buying things. One thing stood out. "You're young, you're still going to be moving here and there." I get that people move all the time with their appliances and furniture, but that stuck with me.

mrcpu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:25:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've seen a few youtubers who's houses are amazing from the outside and completely empty on the inside! I just had a discussion with a friend who's looking at getting into a mortgage and he's shocked at how much it will cost him a month to have a house compared to what he pays now.

VerbatumTurtle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:29:08 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We have 1 daughter and another daughter on the way. Her salary at a full time job was going all towards child care. She worked a part time job but was recently fired for being pregnant. I had to get the second job to pick up the loss of her part time check. I now bar back at a bar Friday and Saturday working from 9-3am I work my day job 7-3:30 m-f . I have to get up at 5 am every morning.. so on Friday I almost stay up 24 hours.. As far as two cars... idk why we have two... I got a new car for myself because my one from college got totaled in an accident from another driver. She wanted a Nissan Rogue 2016 to drive around in.. and I have to pay both our student loans... it's not a fun life.

HansenTakeASeat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:39:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also, a more fundamental aspect of this is to avoid comparison fallacy. I think the majority of people spend way too much time comparing their situation, careers, finances, achievements...etc. to those of their friends and colleagues.

Think of all the different ways you could describe 2 apples. One's bigger, the other has a dent, the former is missing a stem. If so many observations can be made about 2 apples, how in the world can your situation be comparable to that of another human being? There are infinite variables.

Focus on yourself and ways to make your situation better/more prosperous. Remember that very few things are within your sphere of control, and you can ONLY control things within that sphere.

Edit: Question mark

NeoDozer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:43:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It took me months (maybe 6?) to get a couch after I purchased my first apartment. The amount of incredulous people who found out I didn't have a couch for that long was kind of ridiculous. I mean why do you care if I don't have a couch? How does this affect you in any way? I felt better learning that Steve Jobs made his family go without a couch for years. At least I wasn't that bad!!! https://www.cultofmac.com/125861/steve-jobss-quest-for-perfection-could-make-even-buying-a-sofa-into-a-decade-long-ordeal/

Ryasson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:43:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Great advice that my parents would never give me: "Save your money during your job training so that you can spent it all when moving out." Even my sister just bought a new bed and a couch, everything else was stuff she already had in her room. When it comes to money, my parents can be such a pain D:

Sarabad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:47:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My mom works for Verizon and she got overtime during the strike last year. Meaning she worked 12 hour days 6-7 days a week (and made a metric fuck ton of money). My wife and I being 25 and in debt at the time didn't have nice furniture (our bed was on the floor, we had no nightstand, our dresser wouldn't survive our next move, etc.). Well since my mom had maybe 3-4 hours a week to see me, we would go out for dinner every week and then after, go to Nebraska Furniture Mart and buy a piece of Furniture for my bedroom. We got nightstands, a four poster bedframe, a dresser, and brand new lamps. It was really nice of her to do that for us and has enabled us to focus on saving for a nice new couch which is pretty much the only piece of furniture we need now.

Anyways, besides this being nice story: stay connected to your parents, they'll buy your poor ass stuff out of pity.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:47:57 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Just moved into a new house. This. Just so this. I look around at my half assed decorated house with all my old and pet damaged furniture with all these hopes and dreams of what I can envision. And just this. It is so true. I could spend thousandssss.

I've worked out a 1yr, 5yr and 10 yr plan to pace myself on what is most important and what can wait.

10124268 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:48:42 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also employee discounts. We got a huge sound system for >$100. Our queen mattress was $150 after discount and "performance points." All of our luxury stuff was from open box discounts + employee discounts.

Utilize your time in retail hell.

-----iMartijn----- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:53:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If you're just starting out, remember that it took your parents decades to collect all the furniture, decorations, appliances, etc you are used to having around.

Haha

My parents are babyboomers :-) They change everything every three years.

I just don't work hard enough, that's why I have to do more then a decade with my washer and fridge.

zombiebomber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:56:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is currently my boyfriend and I right now. So far we only got a couple desks for our computers and a bed. We got some folding chairs when we first moved in and we carry them around with us if we need to sit for something. Watching TV? Sitting in our folding chairs. Eating? We are on the floor and the chair is the table. Thankfully I have a good job so it won't be like this for too much longer but we figured getting one piece of big furniture or a few smaller pieces every paycheck and our little townhouse should be filled in no time.

originalbastard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:57:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

A huge problem of mine when I started out was trying to live up to house expectations that I assumed were the norm. I ended up buying cheaper versions of everything to fill those expectations and most of those items have failed or broken in less than 4 years. My wife and I have begun to realize the difference between a collection of crap and an accumulation of purpose oriented furnishings. Take it slow guys and gals, nobody cares what your house looks like.

JohnnyMnemo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:31 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Good advice! That includes things like silverware and plungers. Plungers don't just come with the house.

If you don't have mis matched glasses in your late 20s, you're probably in debt.

aaronsweber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also if you buy everything at once from the same place your house looks like a kit, not a home. So, in addition to being frugal, it's actually more stylish!

cmiovino ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:51 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It took us roughly 2 months. Total spent $490. Yes, for an entire apartment, including washer and dryer. However, I was dating someone a few years ago who dropped $3k on just bedroom furniture. Ended up not being able to afford a washer/dryer, or much else initially.

Bed and bed frame came from partner's parents as they were upgrading.

Leather couch from a friend, slightly worn.

Flat screen TV, found on Craigslist, $50. Needed remote, $5.

Washer and dryer bought used from an appliance store that fixes them. $400 for both as the higher end ones came with free delivery.

Computer desk, $35, garage sale find. One garage sale I've been to in years. Didn't need, but it as nice.

Toaster from parents house, extra stored for 1-2 years.

Microwave came from parent's house, waited 2 months, but they were getting a new one. Unit only 1-2 years old.

Recliner, free, family give away along with two end tables.

Found microwave cart for kitchen in trash randomly. Perfect condition.

Dresser, from grandma's. Needed repainted. Black paint in garage, done. Zero cost.

misterid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

we have 8 & 6 year old kids. bought a couple cork boards and hung them on the living room wall. we filled in the boards with their artwork as they bring home pieces that they are proud of.

adds color, has meaning and the kids are so excited to tell us (and company) about their new projects.

CreepTheNet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:32:11 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely!

when we moved into our house, I was talking with my neighbor and lamenting the sorry state of our gardens compared to her lush oasis. She laughed and said, "Don't forget, I've been cultivating and working on this for almost 2 decades now. You're just starting."

helped put it in perspective for me, for sure!

txholdup ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:48:54 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

When my ex and I moved from an 1100 square foot house to a 1700 square foot house with two living areas we declared the formal living room, The Ballroom. It was empty for 2 years, the pool came first, then one of the trucks had to be replaced. We finally got a few things at an auction and in about 3 years it was fully furnished. I would rather have an empty room than credit card balances.

catsasss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I suspect that a lot of people spend money they don't really have, not trying to keep up with the Jones, but trying to prove themselves to their parents.

One reason I'm happy I don't live near my family is that my mother conveniently forgets that she married a HS dropout at 16 and lived in poverty for most of her life. She visits her daughters (there are four of us) and makes comments about their things, or lack thereof, and then gossips to the other daughters about it. If you don't have a huge house, a nice car, plenty of furniture and house stuff, and lavish vacations, she makes you feel like a failure, or more to the point, like you married a failure, since in her mind her daughters should have all married millionaires.

She and my father can't understand why I would drive used cars and buy used furniture. I do it so we can pay cash and stay out of debt, but they lived their whole lives on credit because it was all about having a big hat, even if you had no cattle.

sweadle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And in the meantime, craigslist free and Good Will are your friends. An added benefit is that if you have to move, you can leave a lot behind or let things go.

Also, people used to get married young and get a lot of the high end stuff as wedding gifts. Maybe you don't need fine china, but kitchen appliances and linens aren't cheap, and getting them all as gifts while you set up your first household is a huge advantage.

ginger27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:07:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Craiglist foreva. Also Facebook market place has become a great source for used items. Just be careful with couches.

FlameDra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:11 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My parents bought everything it once. I remember being like 6 or so and there were dudes bringing in furniture for 3 days straight.

ich852 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This! I just furnished my first unfurnished apartment and wow did I spend way too much, luckily my SOs mom is a little bit of a hoarder and had a lot of this good bits like a desk and bookshelf to give away.

Also side note, Ikea has an "as is" section and I got a $700 couch for $200 there, always a good place to look if your already at Ikea. And yeah I know Ikea furniture isn't the greatest quality.

EarnieMadoff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

Two words.

Estate Sales.

Estate sales are like buying good stuff from people who don't want it anymore because they are dead(so you know the prices are good)

But seriously if you are furnishing a house and have the time plus a truck you can find amazing deals on furniture and big appliances at Estate Sales.

My best most recent find my SO and I bought a California King size Sleep Number bed with headboard(Thomasville), plus a Thomasville triple dresser with mirror, and 2 Thomasville nightstands for $900 out the door. Literally $3,500 bed and probably $2,000++ in furniture for $900.

Picture of the dresser, not ours, but exact same style

PQbutterfat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:28 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed. Seriously, if you are in your 20s, don't rush and buy cheap shit just to fill rooms. Take your time and buy things that are well made and will last. You will be glad you did later. Put money into a good bed no matter what. You spend a large chunk of your life on it, so make it a good one.

EatYourCheckers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:55:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, my oldest son is going to have more realistic expectations than my youngest. He will remember not having a playground or deck in the backyard, he will remember the stinky, fraying couches. My youngest son (1 now) will grow up with a play area, deck, grill, clean plush furniture, and all the video game systems.

Wait, we've always had all the video game systems.

Priorities.

Soulicitor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also its hot as shit outside so if you only have enough furnishing for one room you only need a $100 air conditioner!

GenericUsername_1234 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:10 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We took some nice pictures of my wife's home town and put them in some Ikea picture frames. Cool historic buildings and a nice reminder of where she's from, plus they were inexpensive and easy to put together.

I've also built some of our furniture. Start small and as your skills progress you can build nicer and bigger stuff, and it's more sentimental.

one-eye-deer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:31:27 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Marshalls, TJ Maxx, and Homegoods is my jam. Filled up my apartment with adorable stuff without going bankrupt. I love their clearance section, too!

Although, I do want to get my my parents/grandparents level, but that will take some time. Always something nice about a lived-in, cozy home!

Lauraballs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:09:37 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Simple and great advice for everyone! My situation is a little different - I'm "starting out" again as recently separated / ended an engagement and now living alone in the house I bought last year. Many of my furnishings are from my ex-fiance's family handed down, which I would never expect to keep permanently, and even with those I have a completely empty (no exaggeration) den and two bare bones guest rooms. I have to remind myself these things you've reiterated here when I panic about not having a nicely decorated, welcoming home for guests or even myself at this time... and stop myself grabbing my card and heading to IKEA or somewhere just to "get it over with". Patience, time, thrift stores, yard and estate sales and Craigslist are good for me for now!

gnosis_carmot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:34:09 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

There's nothing wrong with lawn furniture, transit damaged items, etc when starting out. Even Goodwill stores can have some real bargains.

Don't know if it's a national thing or just local but habitat for humanity around here has a "rehab" store where you can buy some things cheap. They get all sorts of things like individual donations of a sofa or the like as well as contractor pack remnants. I've seen brand new glass doorknobs there for 15 each.

angela52689 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:51 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If there's something you need urgently, or you're trying to figure out your style, shop at a thrift store. Bonus points if you refinish it to make it your own. This has saved me a LOT of money and was fun for me. In the end, I have a fully-furnished house and the only things I bought were some bookshelves from Target (since they needed to match and be a specific kind). The rest is thrifted or a hand-me-down.

allinspector ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:22 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah it's easy to load up your amazon credit card with economy furniture to fill your new place. But that stuff doesn't last. We have embraced and come to prefer empty walls and minimal furniture. All you need is comfortable place to sit and a few quality items you can add slowly over time.

candyqueen1978 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:03 on July 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

my grandparents have passed. i miss them so much! HOWEVER, i inherited most of one set of grandparents stuff, so i have beautiful antiques abound! my parents fortunately don't mind. only child here and grandma put it in the will. (but i would give it up in a heartbeat to be in their house again with them alive and her cooking dinner for us)

Ounceofwhiskey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is why our wedding registry is really extensive. Let other people with money take care of the things we don't want to spend our own money on but want anyways.

kelphu ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:53:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Blows my mind when people finance those brand new smart TVs, or the latest consoles/electronics in general. I usually keep these items until they die. My 36" vizio tv still plays all the same shows as a 70" curved Samsung. My last expensive phone was a Note 4. I paid for it in cash but it took a dive with me while on a kayaking trip (unexpected wave, tour guide said we'd only be getting wet from the waist down so I used a water ~resistant~ case. Never again). That was an expensive lesson. I switched to a cheaper J7. Not as much memory and not as fast, but a fraction of the price of the latest Note and it still had a camera and I could email for work. Basically I don't buy anything unless I can afford to pay for it twice.

bulbafar ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 09:24:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And both my Gameboy and PS1 Works fine, so no new stuff for my toddler before they die...

Bonus, she has to choose between the original starter pokemons!

DrLawyerson ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:09:21 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Um...

The original game boy games you have actually don't work anymore.

They have a small battery inside to save the game, and unless you have replaced it, they all died.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.. It is replaceable though

bulbafar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:51 on July 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I know they can be replaced, though last time I checked the pokemon game was still running. And several of the other, older games was not with saves, so I guess it will work out, if she can handle buttoms and no colours ;)

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Ugivemeafrighten ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 12:17:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

A place to cook? A fridge? A kitchen sink? A couple plates, pots, a pan, knifes, forks and spoons? Somewhere basic to store all that? Somewhere to store your clothes too? A wash machine?

[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 12:23:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Haven't seen a place worth buying that didn't have a stove and a sink already, even if it's shitty.

A fridge is 50/50, but Dominos does deliver.

You can get cutlery and plates/cups for like nothing at walmart.

Storing shit is easy, use whatever box you can find if your cave doesn't have a cupboard or closet.

Wash your clothes in a sink and hang dry or laundry mat.

shredderrrrrr ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:43:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Haven't seen a place worth buying that didn't have a stove and a sink already, even if it's shitty.

Same with "a shitter," but you included that in your original list.

A fridge is 50/50, but Dominos does deliver.

You're joking, right?

You can get cutlery and plates/cups for like nothing at walmart.

Again, how does that fact that it is cheap mean its not something you "need"?

Storing shit is easy, use whatever box you can find if your cave doesn't have a cupboard or closet.

So you should add "4. A place to store shit" to your list, no?

Wash your clothes in a sink and hang dry or laundry mat.

So paying for a washing machine is a "luxury" but going to the laundry mat every week for twenty years isn't?

Ugivemeafrighten ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:54:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Where I live (small town in Germany) almost every flat/appartment/house is empty, except for a full equipped bathroom. There are some that come with concrete floor, "so you can put whichever you like the most". I had nothing when I first moved in but a 90x180cm matress, my filled suitcase and this 8yo laptop.

I think I get your point of a lot of things being a luxury, but you need some more things to live more or less comfortable. Deliveries and laundry mats arent worth it, imo; on the long run you safe a lot of money by buying the wash machine and a fridge. If a pizza is 10-15 bucks (at least around here), I can eat 3 days, 3 times a day for that money.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:42:21 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

A fridge is 50/50, but Dominos does deliver.

Careful...you'll get lambasted here for suggesting someone order out more than once a year!

shredderrrrrr ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:40:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, it's pretty silly to call a fridge "a luxury" when the proposed alternative is ordering pizza 365 days a year.

BunnyBunnBunn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:24:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have seen a lot of people mentioning craigslist, and second hand stores. I am not saying don't do this, but I am saying be extremely careful and check it over first.

I caution people when buying second hand furniture. There are too many small bugs that can infest people's homes, and be carried through furniture. Bed bugs, lice, fleas, mites, roaches, etc.

These bugs do NOT discriminate and can be found in any type of neighborhood/house.

In 2010 NYC experienced a bad outbreak of bed bugs, and my ex happened to be staying in a hotel for a work trip. He was bit badly the first night and had an allergic reaction. When he reported it to the hotel, they moved him but denied there was a bed bug problem. The bites were so bad, he went to the doctor immediately when he got home. The doctor confirmed an allergic reaction to bites from bed bugs. Incidentally, his co-worker, staying at the same hotel, was bit too. Can you imagine how many traveling people could have brought home bed bugs, without knowing?

So, if you are going to buy second hand, know the person you are buying it from. Check the furniture thoroughly. Bed bugs can hide in any type of furniture, electronics, basically anything with a crevice.

I think it is ok to go without furniture or buy something cheaper from Walmart or IKEA to tide you over until you can save up to get something nicer. The stress of getting rid of bug infestations is not a chance I am personally willing to experience again.

ponieslovekittens ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:49:03 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Related, mattresses work perfectly well placed directly on the floor without the box springs or undercarriage.

Shop around and you can get a queen sized mattress new for $100.

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ronbilius ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:22:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yes and no. I did that for years until I got a cheap metal bed frame from Walmart for $60. It's simple and affordable compared to $500+ bed sets but make setting in/out of bed easier and the room feel a little better if you don't like the unfurnished feeling.

shredderrrrrr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:53:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Under $100??

The mattress industry is overpriced and over-complicated, but I seriously advise spending over $100 mattress if at all possible. It is one of the few things in life worth spending some money on.

Sirisian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:55:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

All my parent's stuff doesn't match. It bothers me, but I never mentioned it to them. They have good taste for some things, but in other cases it seemed like they bought for utility over looks. All the wood except my coffee table matches. So my whole bedroom, dining, hobby room, etc has the same theme. I have things picked out and wait for sales though. I'll only regret this if something I want goes out of production.

buzzfriendly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:19:54 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Valuable advice. I pretty much outfitted my first rental house (less my bed) from the GoodWill, yard sales and local trading post publication. Got the lawnmower from the dump but had to buy gas and a blade. Complete setup cost me less than $400.00. I can now afford new but still buy many things this way.

hey-look-over-there ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:25:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Or you could check out your local resale shop and Craig's list. I got almost all my furniture for pennies on the dollar.

Imissmyusername ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:13 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And there's always 2nd hand things. My bedroom consusts of my bed frame from when I was a kid and a $20 Craigslist dresser. Living room cost $300 total for the neighbors pull out sofa, love seat, chair, coffee table, end tables, and 2 lamps. We'd started out with free craigslist couches that were a little rough looking though. Just check what you buy.

sirsassypants11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:12:35 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We've been in our home about 18 months. We have been lucky that 90% of our furniture was from relatives. We just got a dining room table, from a family member. Random chairs that don't match. No decorations other than family pics or random gifts I've collected over the yrs. I've never understood why, after just signing the scary mountain of paperwork that tells you you're in six figures of debt with a mortgage, folks then turn around and spend even more to make the home "perfect" right away.

jonnygreen22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:35:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I don't forget, i remember when i was young we didn't even have a car (this was in the 80's), bare yard, not much furniture and little tv. Home videos from the early 90's remind me of how much they have gained.

bicyclemom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:38:02 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Heck. I still have furniture in my home that was willed to me by dead relatives. None of it is worth much either. We still have a coffee table that we bought for $125 back in 1992.

We're not poor by any measure. Mortgage is just about over, very little debt, and we've banked a solid retirement for ourselves. Just never saw the need to replace furniture that still works and still looks okay.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:42:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Gumtree is great for this. My wife and I picked up an immaculate DFS sofa with 'cuddle couch' for ยฃ150. We bought it off a guy who was moving abroad and had an unfurnished flat he rented out to someone who had bought the sofa.

The sofa was retailing at ยฃ3000 so I'm pretty sure he didn't know the value, or was desperate to shift it. Either way, score!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'd say start with the basics i.e. bed, couch, tv stand and maybe 1 or 2 other things depending on your needs then add to it as you get the money.

jmacupdates1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:11 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've been out of college 3 years now and have lived in two apartments. My couch and love seat are used (one from Craigslist, one from my parents' house). TV stand and end tables in the living room are all used. Bought my dining room table and chairs from a neighbor for $100. In my bedroom, only my bed frame and mattress were brand new. Everything else was bought second hand or came from home. And if I wouldn't have gotten stuff from home, I would have bought used stuff on the cheap anyway.

Definitely don't understand why people go and blow a bunch of money right out of school when they can't afford it. Good post, OP. Good advice.

edcRachel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

When I moved out, all I had was a bed, desk and dresser from my parents place. Over the next 8 years I picked up my dining room table and an end table from a landlord who didn't want it. A really ugly chair from... I don't even remember, a roommate that left it? Another chair my grandparents were going to throw out. My TV stand came from the side of the road. My end tables are from the thrift store.

When I bought my home, I asked for some of the furniture I needed in my offer. I knew the previous owner was going somewhere he wouldn't be able to use it, so it was in his favor to just leave it and not have to deal with it.

It's not the greatest furniture, it's mostly from Ikea, but I kept the storage and shelving units (5 of them), dining room table (upgrade from my old one!), coffee table, and portable air conditioner. I can upgrade them at my leisure and I see no point any time soon.

Looking around, the only things in this house I've actually bought new have been my couch (which I could have got in the move but it was REALLY ugly and worn) and my TV. It took me over 8 years of being on my own, until I actually bought a house - to buy either one.

schitz240sx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've done this twice now and I am 33. Did it once when I was 27 when I bought my first house. I did kinda splurge though. I bought a washer and dryer, couch, and a bed when I moved in then took my time collecting other things. Sold everything when I moved 800 miles away. Slept on an air mattress for the first year (I wasnt sure if I was going to like my new city). Took me 2 years, but I have bought enough crap to make me happy in my apartment.

QueenOfPurple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I moved across the country at 22 after graduating from college. The first items I bought for my apartment were an inflatable pool raft (bed) and a camping chair. I didn't buy a tv until November (moved in may), and even then I waited for a great deal.

I remember lots of my colleagues who had recently moved (it was for teach for america, so many were in similar situation -- recent grads) bought so much furniture. I felt kind of embarrassed, until those same colleagues would have to turn down vacations, nights out, or would come out to hang and complain about how broke they were.

I lived frugally and was able to buy a house on my own in a nice area at 24 years old. I remember people being surprised that I'd bought so young, and assuming I had help from family. Nope. Did it myself. Because I lived within my means and saved.

A8VS3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:55:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Great post. I remember thinking about this exact thing when I was about 17. "How the heck did they ever buy all this stuff?". And wondering how I was ever going to afford to have a house and all the things in it. Decades later I know that it is exactly as you describe.

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Casey-- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, couldn't you have just saved that money in your bank account for the same amount of time and earned interest on it?

NG_Travis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:03 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

While the OP is true, during my more formative high school and college years I've collected art in the form of concert posters and created one or two of my own.

My fiancรฉ is also a painter so when it comes to art, there will be no shortage in our house.

You can but little shit here and there as you go through life. Obviously some furniture is a different story, but if you take care of your ikea shit in college, you can use it later (I.e. My coffee table, some shelving, etc)

BornOn8thOfJuly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:38 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I bought a bed a few weeks ago. I moved, and my new bedroom was not furnished. This was the first piece of furniture I've ever bought on my own and feel like an adult.

Next... dresser

ManOfLaBook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:01:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My wife and I decided almost 10 years ago to only buy quality furniture which will last us a lifetime. Yes, the initial payment is much more, but in the long run it's worth it. Heck, we've got furniture now that will probably outlast our children.

Casey-- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My parents did that, but now they have this furniture that just won't die. They had a large Victorian house so they bought things that went with the style, but 25 years later, all four of our family members are living in their own places, none of which are Victorian. My mum and I both hate the style of the furniture, my dad has enough of his own French antique furniture, and my sister's ended up with it mostly because she can't afford anything else, and she isn't fussy about style. I don't think there's anything wrong with buying mid-range furniture because taste changes, as well as where you live. I have relatively inexpensive furniture which I love right now, but what if I don't in ten years time? No biggie, I didn't spend thousands of pounds on my sofa so I won't feel bad selling it for cheap or donating it.

Tommy_bobz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:05:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I bought a house in November and I got all my starter furniture from the free section of Craigslist. For now my couches are 2 matching futons that I got for free. I just bought new futon pads for them so they match and are clean. I got my table from girlfriends parents for free. Coffee table from a neighbors for free while I make mine. See attached pic. My bed is stacked pallets with a mattress on top and my desk I got for free from a friend. It's all starter stuff so I'm just saying be creative!!! http://i.imgur.com/s1ctrL0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/wsCTHA5.jpg

ladyflyer88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:06:32 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Right after my husband and I got married we moved into a tiny 2bd apt in California. We bought a bed and that's all he had except for the kitchen items I had brought with me and our bikes. We didn't even have a car. I found out that there was a auction house about a mile down the road that had the low bidding items in the basement and we went there spent like $200 and furnished our house (enough). Of course we had to carry those items the mile back to the apt up a small hill but it was a good workout and most of the items lasted us for several years and actually I think we still have about half of them.

I have now been married for 7 years and of course we have added on new things, got a new couch, new bed, new desk etc. but there are still things we are missing we have no furniture in the master bedroom except a bed on the floor. My mom thinks I'm crazy that our guest bedroom has more furniture then ours but I know parents wouldn't like sleeping on the floor so I bought a raised bed frame and they have matching nightstands that I picked up at the auction house. I think we paid like $200 for the bed frame but it's simple and nice. It really is okay to have a mismatched, not completed house. My house in no way matches, I have dark wood, light wood, painted wood, and I am 7 years into building it up. Every year I try to add something or so depending on what I find and prices but eventually it will come together!

Thanks for making this post I know many military families that we met along the way put themselves in a lot of debt trying to make a house pretty and then got divorced. One of my neighbors literally went to a rent to own place and furnished his entire house to please the wife it was insane!!!

Toob_ular ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It took us 10 years of being in our house to get the popcorn removed and painted, and buy a new living room set. My husband and I moved out of our college apartment right after my grandfather passed and we were able to furnish our new place with furniture from his house. We also received hand me downs from other relatives when they bought new furniture. We want to replace some of the items with stuff our taste but it's not worth going into debt over.

My husband has refinished most of the wood furniture, just finished the dining table this weekend. It's probably 30 years old and looks brand new. Don't be afraid to put in some work on old wood furniture, the craftsmanship is probably 100x better than anything made today. And couch covers are amazing, cheaper than a new couch.

One of my good friends is building a $500m house and wanting all new things for it and they are constantly worried about money. Like seriously worried about the cash they have to put down in a few months when the house is done. Don't bring that stress on yourself, your friends aren't paying for anything!

I-Argue-With-Myself ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:54 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Just shared this with my GF. We bought a place a few months back, and she seems to want it to look like it's out of a magazine right now. We're only 25 ffs and just because we have good jobs doesn't mean we need to blow all our money on brand new furniture. I want to pay off our vehicles, or pay down more principal on the mortgage. Or even pay off the small credit card we owe money on (from all the miscellaneous moving costs we didn't quite anticipate). We have debts but they're all manageable but right now the last thing we need is more furniture that we really don't need

Nagsheadlocal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:10:25 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I furnished my house in Lane Acclaim (mid-century modern) over the period of about 10 years by combing Craigslist, hitting estate sales, and going through junk shops, ReStore, and Goodwill. This was just before Mad Men made MCM a hot commodity. The most I paid for a piece was $300 for a tallboy dresser in immaculate shape - last one sold on Ebay went for $800. The least I paid was 0 dollars for a table I found on the back of a guy's truck at the dump, just before he threw it on the burn pile. Last one of those to sell on Ebay went for $1,500. I also found a set of Amsterdam chairs (not repros) that a local fraternity was throwing away.

The thrill of the hunt is part of the joy of collection furniture. My partner and I spend Saturday mornings hitting the shops and sales. Some times other people go with us. We also send text photos of interesting items to friends in case they want us to pick it up, and then notify me of things. Meet, have lunch and a few beers - it's a nice way to spend a Saturday.

If you are starting out and want to collect classic furniture, you can forget Mid Century Modern. The prices have skyrocketed in the past few years. However, the prices for "waterfall" style furniture from the 40s is only now starting to rise. I'm helping a friend furnish her house with that style, just scored a bedroom set for her daughter for a few hundred bucks.

Good hunting and good luck!

Thasker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:10:32 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is true, unfortunately (in the US) we have an institutionalized culture that capitalizes on this feeling and pushes the idea of incurring debt to get there quicker, while describing it as a good thing.

dergus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:12:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

i bought my house a couple of years ago, we renovated the entire top floor. we bought appliances used on craigslist, all beautiful modern stainless steel, big 36" french door fridge, kitchen aid dishwasher, etc.. dishwasher stove and fridge cost $1000 used. had i bought new, would have cost $5000. i bought a contemporary solid birch bedroom set for $400 that is in -mint- condition, price at costco? $3000. kids bedrooms, all ikea, but not new ikea, USED ikea. again all mint condition, but a everything was anywhere from 14-30% of the cost of buying it new, which already is cheaper than anywhere else. i bought a weber genesis bbq, 2 years old, $200. new in canada? $1100. dining table and 8 chairs? $200. solid wood. we furnished the whole house, outdoor patio set, basement guest bedroom and basement living room with a huge sectional sofa, two kids bedrooms, and master bedroom for less than $3000. including fridge, stove, dishwasher, washer/dryer. we easily saved $10,000. and if you walked in my house you would think it was all brand new.

wearenighthawks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is excellent advice. Our financials are tight, so we buy almost everything second hand (kijiji in our case). We got a couch and loveseat for $80 for both, and the guy delivered them to us as well, all because his wife was "redecorating". They're not the greatest, but they were legit brand new when we got them, they had been in their "sitting room", and never really used. Also because they were cheap and second hand, I'm not as concerned about my toddler potentially "ruining" it... like when he rubbed chalk all over the seat, or smeared jam on the cushions. No need to freak out!

We found a dishwasher last week for $40. It works great. Also because someone with lots of $ was redecorating the kitchen.

Also, never discount the functionality of cheap Ikea furniture. I have bookcases that I purchased 10 years ago from there, the cheap models, for $29.99/ea. I've had to add a few finishing nails to hold the backs of them together over the years but they've survived 4 moves and are still going strong. I meant to buy them to tide me over until I had more money... then ended up keeping them because, well, they did the job just fine and fit my dรฉcor, so who cares?

Garage sales are awesome for stuff too. People move and downsize all the time and will sell their things for cheap, just to not have to move it! It's a win/win.

Edit: a word

massivewang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I am living and working in Brazil longterm (I'm from the USA). A good friend of mine bought a new apartment and moved into the apartment with just a few basics (bed, plastic chairs, TV). He waited six months before he bought furniture, waiting for the perfect deal. He ended up paying 20,000 BRL to furnish his apartment, while the initial qoutes he was receiving were around the 50,000 BRL price. By shopping around, being patient, and negotiating a cash deal he saved a ton of money.

MagnanimousCannabis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:49 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Man, this just hit home. Bought my first home almost a year ago and I feel like I'm spending most of my flexible income on stuff for my house.

IMHERE30 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:07 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 30 and just got my first cast iron pan. I have to say I love the journey of collecting the things my parents once had.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I felt bad about having crappy furniture at 30 years old but then I tried hard to remember our house when our parents first moved into it.

It was pretty bare bones. We had a crappy couch they got for cheap at a yard sale. My dad made my brothers and i's bed and I remember we didn't have cable until I was 15.

That made me feel a lot better about taking things slow and responsibly.

eynonpower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My wife and I bought our house in 2008. Its just a small townhouse with no basement or garage. We are having our new house built, and we've been saving our asses off. We have 2 bedrooms (and a daughter), no dining room, our washer/drier is one of those combo ones that is on its last leg, and 1.5 bathrooms.

So, after our down payment, closing costs, and money we are going to make off our current house, we have $20,300 to spend on:

  1. Dining room set
  2. Bedroom set (for the master. Our initial target/ikea/walmart furniture is still decent, but we really want a nice bedroom set)
  3. Washer & Drier
  4. Fridge
  5. Water Softner
  6. Living Room Furniture
  7. Blinds & Curtins
  8. 4x fans (
  9. Moving Truck
  10. Takeout/Order In food for the moving week
  11. Swing Set for our kid
  12. Paint & Supplies
  13. $2k Misc unknown expenses
  14. Garage Door Opener
  15. Misc. Decor

We can manage it, but that is going to be eaten up, quickly. We can get better than Ikea, but aren't going to Raymore & Flannigan. Just for that, it took almost 10 years.

seraph321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:16:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

And here I am, after ten years of accumulating only enough stuff to fill a two bedroom apartment thinking I want to get rid of it all and get back to basics. I could have easily bought a big house and filled it with stuff, just don't know why I would want to do that.

y2ken119 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:16:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I moved out 2 years ago and bought my first house and my parents had to sit me down and tell me this. I had a mattress and TV to my name. They had savings bonds in my name which they used to help buy me a dining table and couch. I was rushing to buy everything else. They quickly told me that I should buy things as i need them. Especially since my tastes might change in a couple years and I'd want to replace everything. How right they were!

Toastyparty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

No matter how hard I tried explaining this to my wife when we started out, she just wouldn't have it. Pressure got me in debt for all sorts of furniture. She gets it now. Even appologized. Be firm. Explain this abd even show then this post. Great job OP

elimeny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:28 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Man. I really needed to hear this advice right now. We just bought our first house, and I'm overwhelmed by what I perceive as all this decor and these furnishings I feel I need to purchase, with very little money to do it.

Thank you so much for this perspective. IKEA will do for now.

ilovewhiskeyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Craigslist was mentioned, but don't forget to follow your local yardsale group pages on Facebook. Even better than Craigslist imo

nobody2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:39 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Amen.

Once I bought my house, everyone lectured me: "You're going to need to spend about $10,000 furnishing it, so be prepared!"

  • They're right, but I don't need to do all $10,000 right now
  • I have accumulated a degree of timeless-style furniture from my parents who upgraded (i.e. got rid of couch for super awesome recliner sofa, I got the old couch. Win!). There was plenty to fill my home, aside from one or two items
  • My home isn't that big

I bought a cheap DIY bookcase and desk, patio furniture from Ikea (cheapest I could find), and that was it. Everything else I had from apartments past, thrifting, or hand-me-downs from my parents. The home looks great, everyone loves how it looks, and all in all, I spent about $1,000 in furniture total. I might get a couch in a year or two (existing one is getting frayed on one end, shampooing/spot cleaning isn't taking out a few stains, also it's too small for what I want), and maybe a recliner, but that's it.

Curtains can be expensive. They don't have to be though. Target sells a great range of dressings from elegant, to contemporary, to something for the kids. Each window runs less than $20.

This push to furnish a new home with new shit is unbelievable.

eggsbachs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:26:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

A realization I'm coming to now with our apartment. When I stopped thinking about it so much this past year I realized we were slowly collecting anyways. No need to break yourself.

karatous1234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:27:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Very true. Parents have had their house for close on 30 years, and only 2 years ago did my dad finally build the garage hes wanted since they first built the house.

redditgolddigg3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:27:31 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm currently sitting in a chair I got from Crate and Barrel's clearance section. Was $699, marked down to $199. Great quality, looks awesome.

Just about every furniture store has a clearance section and stuff from the floor gets thrown there on a daily basis. I found 3 or 4 pieces by popping over everyday on the way home from work. Saved probably $2500 over retail and have a living room of really nice stuff.

mega512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:29:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I agree. I remember when we bought our house 4 years ago it was so empty. But now, it is more full and is our happy home. Take your time however. There is no rush to have things to fill it.

Lendari ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:44 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Ive never had an issue paying for furniture. Its one of those things that amortizes well. A few pennies a day over their lifetimes. Never buy something tou cant afford, but dont be afraid to buy a nice couch.

BizzyM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for this reminder. My house is pretty barren and I've mostly been working on upgrading rooms with trim and flooring. I feel bad about the lack of furniture, curtains, etc.

CaptDisambiguation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:07 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Craigslist, eBay, Facebook marketplace, LetGo, etc. so many great options available today to be frugal and pick up the massive amounts of stuff that not one- but right now TWO - generations are downsizing from. Don't complain to me in 30yrs that you can't retire when you spent all your money on stylish new furniture which depreciates VERY rapidly instead of buying cheap used and saving instead. (It might not be the style you want, but make it work for a few years and you'll be stunned what you can afford later). Not millennial bashing here (I'm 30) - just offering some good advice that I am already seeing pay off.

nighthawke75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:13 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You know that is not going to happen in this day of moving from one job to another in a matter of a handful of years, if not months. If anything substantial is bought, odds of it being left behind is pretty high. No on wants to manhandle a huge sofa or mattress frequently.

dragonzim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Fantastic advice! My wife and I are married for 11 years and on our second house and we just finally bought the living room furniture that we really wanted...

metarugia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:35 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is 100% true! We just bought our house and have been pulling back what we need to spend after realizing we don't need almost any of it right now. Has relieved a lot of stress really.

Svartbomull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:39:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is great advice! I'm super-lucky I feel, I am getting a bookshelf+3 matching shelves for my living room from my parents because they're re-doing their. And another bookshelf from their basement that will go in my bedroom. They also said I could have their microwave when they found a new one but said to me go buy one and we'll give you the money for it. They're super sweet helping me out like this. But I have a couch from my cousin, an armchair from my grandpa who passed away, a painting my grandmother made in her youth... Second hand lights, still missing 2 ceiling lamps so it's kinda dark at night in the living room and kitchen... But it's my place and I wouldn't change it for anything in the world... Ok k might change som walls because they're all concrete... Not really good for when you want to hand art on the walls... And there's like 0 preexisting holes.

PreciousandReckless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:40:54 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Unless they're bankrupt. It seems like the couples I know who buy their first house and get all brand new, brand name, furniture and decor are in crippling debt. Slow and steady. My house is a mix-mash of hand me downs, garage sale finds, and some brand new items

vaporflavor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:41:57 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for the thoughtful reminder. I have to keep reminding myself of this. We bought are house a few years ago and I still look around and it does not feel decorated to my liking. I have to constantly remind myself especially when I visit other people's homes who's decorations I envy that they have been homeowners alot longer than I have.

JeremyStoppelman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:43:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I think i needed to read this right about now to keep me in check. Thank you.

It's settled, im going to have my 65" 4k tv but no living room furniture for a bit. Priorities.

bwitt33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks so much for this! This is timely and I needed to hear this. I'm moving into a new place and I'm just starting out.

FieldsofBlue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:52:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

How can anyone drive themselves into debt buying a few pieces of furniture? I got a futon and a reclining chair for like 300$ at Ikea and a bookshelf for like 15$. Heck, my entire bed, frame and mattress, was 200$.

EuropeanLady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:53:07 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It depends on what amenities you can live without and for how long. A sofa, an armchair or two, a coffee table or two, a proper dining table and chairs are essentials. A proper stove with a good-size oven, a good-size refrigerator with a freezer compartment, a microwave oven, a toaster and/or toaster oven, washer, dryer - those are essentials as well. Of course you go into debt furnishing your house/apartment.

Thedevilsapprentice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:58:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm obsessed with Craigslist! I have very particular tastes when it comes to interiors (mid century modern) so finding furniture on Craigslist has basically become a hobby. The best part is it's all solid craftsmanship, real wood, and so much less than the cost of even those crappy OSB concoctions you can find online. (I'm looking at you, Joss and Main) I also recommend ReStore if you have one in your area. They are basically a Habitat for Humanity thrift store... you can find everything from appliances to furniture to building materials like tile and fixtures. Best part is the money goes to Habitat, so you're helping the community while also saving yourself some serious cash.

chodan9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:59:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

As a 52 year old man with a spouse who loves new furniture and hates to get rid of old furniture I kind of miss having room to move.

Fortunately we have helped furnish much of our family's houses.

We started with hardly anything though, but after 26 years of marriage it starts to add up.

ss0889 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:59:20 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

my wife and I opted to put less money down in favor of using that money to furnish the house. when i say furnish, i mean we already had most of our furniture, but we bought a dining table, kitchen table, couch, coffee table, a couple of cheap ass side tables (wayfair), deck furniture (costco) and we finished our projector/home theater setup. all the audio crap was already taken care of there, we just needed the projector and screen to finish it off. everything else we'd been slowly accumulating for years, we just figured that was the big ticket stuff that we'd need in the near future.

we did not spend any money on decor at all, apart from what we already owned or if we saw some cheap but nice knick knack for like 10 bucks.

Lydkraft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is very good advice. I have very specific criterion for making a purchase: it must be something i love, exceptional quality that i'll keep/will last my entire life. This has kept me from buying countless Ikea pieces of rubbish.

Also, prepare to be opportunistic. I recently found a Florence Knoll piece for 1/5 of its actual price. I had a reserve fund to draw on when I saw it and felt great pulling the trigger.

Search CL often looking for your dream pieces. Every once in a while they'll come up and you can haggle people way down. I found a b&b italia couch which was probably 14k new for a song.

ieatcheese1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:19 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yep! My must haves when I move out are a bed, dresser, a couch (can even be a love seat), small end table and something to my TV on. The most costly thing will be the bed and couch. Everything else I can get used from friends and family.

Once I'm settled and have saved, I can get that cute little area rug and table lamps.

My friend kept changing her major and is spending 8 years on her bachelors. Transferring to a new school and has spent about 1.5k decorating her bedroom at her new apartment. Uh what? You can't even afford a $20 bus ticket to see your boyfriend.

lagwagonlead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If you have a place to do it, you can start making your own furniture to save some money. With very little knowledge and zero experience we bought a circular saw, a sander, and a cheap corded drill. All for under $150. The first thing we built was a work bench so future projects could be done on there. Next we needed an end table, then a bed frame, then a bench. I think the next project will be patio furniture.

Materials for these projects is cheap so if you mess up a cut, oh well, that's now in a pile for firewood for future camping trips. We've spent less money on everything we've built than any of it would have cost used, it really is saving us quite a bit of money. Plus we get to tailor everything specifically to us. No more complaining that a table is slightly too short, or a chair too tall!

a_goonie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is true. I on the other hand got extremly lucky as my sister just happened to be moving when i was. Twice. She pretty much helped furnish half my house. Also if your desperate check craigs list. People always give away furniture or have it for close to nothing. One last thought. Dont keep your walls bare. Get some art. Anything you like or find intresting. But dont keep them bare with just paint.

dryan3032 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:17:57 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is awesome! I just bought my first house and I have a $75 couch and an old dining room table for a TV stand. Thanks for the reminder!

Dewdeaux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Great point. Plus I remember my mom telling me their first set of family room furniture was on layaway for months, and she'd go make regular payments at the store until they could bring it home.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:22:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:23:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is the truth! When my wife and I moved into this house we were so damn broke. I literally would come home from work and we would share a (one) 12 oz can of beer and play with the toddler and the baby.

We had a couch, 2 beds, a tv, and my moms dining room table. A few end tables. Lamps. A crib. The rest of the house was empty, and it looked kind of weird.

12 years later we have so much crap it is ridiculous.

GirlNumber20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:23:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Actually, my parents bought everything at once, including light fixtures, by going to Mexico. The furniture was solid wood with hand-carved designs. They got a nice little vacation out of it, too, and still spent a fraction of what they would have spent in America.

It went great with our Spanish colonial-style house, too.

awesome_guy99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:22 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have a teenage daughter and honestly we furnished our house we bought in 1999 in the first year. I think your generalization is not really the norm.

puss_parkerswidow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:47 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thrift store furniture is also for the best if you have pets. My large dog has managed to accelerate our going through three couches in his lifetime.

TheCoatman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I furnished my house with my parents old stuff lol. Upside of divorced parents - two houses full of stuff to pilfer from. Over the years I've added my own stuff, mostly second hand. I recently purchased a brand new bed and a brand new washing machine, which were the first brand new big items for the house I've bought. I moved out of my parents house 10 years ago this year.

rcarnes911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

So true when my old lady and i started we had nothing tv stand was a box with a piece of wood on top we had a crappy craigslist couch we both slept on now we have so much junk it's not funny

NeverCallMeFifi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:02 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 50 years old and more than half (heck, probably 75%) of what I own is from garage sales or dumpsters. I had an interior decorator over the other day for a party and she raved about my style. You can find all kinds of great things out there for very little money.

andi-wilson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My fiancรฉ and I bought our house about a year ago and almost everything we own is second hand. This is in part to save money but also because it is better for the environment! We have been given lots of beauty oil furniture from friends/family, picked stuff up from thrift shops and garage sales, and even done some garbage picking. Our house looks so unique, every piece has a story, and we are helping out planet in the process.

PM_ME_YOUR_BEST_GIF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:35:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm finally at the point after 15 years of living on my own where I don't have any hand-me-down pieces of furniture or art from my parents.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:39:27 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thankfully by the time I realized this I hadn't yet gotten my own place so when the time came I put only what we needed in our home. Kitchen table, two coffee tables, two desks, a couch, two bookshelves. We have small IKEA "couch" in our bedroom from before we met that serves us well as a place to sit when we are getting ready. Other than that we don't have any superfluous decorations cluttering our tables and counter tops which is what my mom's and dad's houses are like. Their decorations have decorations. Woof! I love my minimalism.

dyl8n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:40:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Another upside is you get to know how you want to use the spaces in your home too - rather than just choosing things based on appearance. You will also get a feel for how much storage you need after living in a house for a while - and needing something also helps you prioritize what to save for next

Zolome1977 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:44:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My parents had everything in their house given as a hand me down. Me and my hubby have paid for everything ourselves. I think my parents like that we are better off than they were.

BandPDG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Generally good advice. Another couple things I'd add onto this - cut the cord and stop succumbing to the scourge of consumerism. Really look at how much space you actually need... Think about what spaces you actually occupy the most and what furnishings/appliances you use the most in those spaces. My wife and I had occupied a sprawling 3500 SQFT condo a few years back and realized that the only spaces we used were the bedroom (specifically the bed), the kitchen while cooking, the living room (specifically the couch, or sometimes the floor if shit was getting freaky), and the bathroom. What's worse - out of the three bedrooms, two were essentially storage rooms holding boxes of crap we wasted money on over the years, as was the entirety of the finished basement and garage. Worst - our annual expenses were touching $45K - $50K per year just for rent, elex, cable, gas. So - we down-sized both our living space and the amount of shit we have in our lives - now, couldn't be happier. We've cut our living expenses by 66% and are saving/investing piles of cash for our future.

dphizler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:48:56 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

When I moved out in my first apartment. All I needed was a shove, a fridge and a bed. I bought the fridge and the stove second hand and bought my bed new.

Now, almost 10 years later, I still have that fridge and that stove.

Spindash54 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:22 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yard sales can reveal the biggest surprise. A fantastic wooden headboard for my bed was just 5 bucks. The thing is big and sturdy, and probably would've cost at least $100 for something similar brand new.

quidam08 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:11 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Some of us are just waiting for the (hopefully more than a few years) gap between offspring still living at home and being crashed by grandkids. My kids are spaced so far apart that we may never have nice things.

disque71 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I have found the best method is if you don't have it, try building it yourself. Many items in the stores now are of very poor quality yet extremely expensive. Things such as coffee tables, desks, tables, benches etc are all rather easy to do beginner woodworking projects that take just an electric screw driver, a palm sander and some rags. The rest is your time and some stain. That's it. I encourage you to try. It has saved me nearly $10,000....and a whole lot of pride.

not-a-tapir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is good advice, but also daunting for people rebuilding their lives. I did amass furniture and so on over the years, then I gave up most of it to make my separation and subsequent divorce easier. I mostly used Gumtree and Preloved to find cheap furniture and white goods. The best thing I bought was a 2m solid oak dining table + 6 chairs for a grand total of ยฃ60. We did have to add ยฃ35 to that to rent a van to collect it all, but it was still a bargain. The only thing I've really spent any money on is my mattress. A good mattress = good sleep and good sleep = good health, so don't skimp on it. Everything else, your bed base, your sofa, whatever else you want, you can get second hand very cheaply. White goods are a bit more pricey and a bit more dodgy, but you can still buy them second hand, just don't go for the cheapest possible option and don't bother with washer-dryers.

Having said all that, I really appreciated the lack of clutter in my last house. Also, don't get furnishings just because other people expect it. Don't get me wrong, if I had oodles of money to spare, I'd definitely get a microwave, even though I haven't needed one for the past 2 years, but I still wouldn't buy a TV.

RainbowRiot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:49 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've seen people mention thrift stores, craigslist, and estate sales. I'd like to add student housing around universities and college campuses are good spots to find free furniture too, in our town there's always graduates leaving perfectly good stuff on the curb when they finish school.

guthepenguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:05:10 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My former college roommate bought a house a couple of years ago. He has four couches, all of which he paid nothing for. At least two of them came from graduates leaving stuff outside when they left.

He also scored a TV in college from somebody who complained that the screen was green and they were going to throw it away. So he took it off their hands to tinker with it. Turns out it just needed a new HDMI cable.

Asvaldr4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:00:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If you have the space: I saved a ton of money by building or refinishing used wooden furniture. I just purchased my first home and all of our furniture was low end Ikea that was falling apart, so we were starting from scratch. I purchased a minimal amount of tools and started researching on YouTube and a furniture design site. The total cost of tools was equal to the cost of a dining table, which I built first, and it's been saving us money from that point forward.

Its-Dannywen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:07 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Moved into my first apartment a year ago and thats how long it took me to it fill up (1 room apartment). Everything takes so long to get, literally moving into my new apartment today with 2 roomates, 4 bedroom flat so back to square 1 again.

Niboomy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:41 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah! Or look for people moving! We basically bought a mahogany dinner table for 8 and the living room sofas (3) for about $500. Only the bedroom is missing now :) my family pitched in with the kitchen appliances! We're so lucky :)

rinkima ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:05:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm thankful that I'm a minimalist and barely want anything. Bed, a couple chairs, a tv stand and a dresser, that's about all I use

shiers69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've been in my house for 5+ years and still don't have a couch. Everyone gives me a hard time about it but I just don't really need one. I've always got projects to work on around the house - working in the garage, finishing the basement, landscaping, etc. I have a TV in my bedroom for rocking some netflix before bed, but I don't need to sit on a couch to enjoy it. I'm ok with embracing the emptiness around the house, it keeps me productive.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:32 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This might get buried but my friend bought a nice house two years ago and then was able to make it look even more beautiful by filling it with brand new furniture. The house is about 2,000 sq ft. I know for a fact he made around $65,000/year at the time. His wife was probably similar in salary. He told me the financed all of the furniture for $24,000!!! A lot of people will create the illusion of wealth just by taking on debt.

cokronk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My wife and I had our house furnished day one. Granted, we never purchased anything at that time and either had previous furniture (two beds), had appliances come with the house (everything but a microwave), or were given furniture (two couches, a lover seat, table, chairs, rocker, recliner, etc...

We did just purchase a dishwasher to replace the one going bad that's as old as the house and will continue to purchase new or mostly new appliances, but for furniture needs we've been keeping an eye open for yard sales and what not.

I do have to keep reminding her that we're going to be living here for more than a year so she doesn't have to do every single home improvement/landscaping project in the first 6 months.

TheSunniestofBros ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is extremely relevant to anyone closing on a house. I'm closing on a house in 2 hours and went through this struggle a few weeks ago. I was overwhelmed by the closing costs combined with the costs of furnishing everything. Eventually, I realized that I don't need to furnish the 3rd bedroom right. I don't need plates for christmas and I certainly don't need a patio set. As long as I have a Bed, Sofa and TV, I'll be good for the beginning. As time passes, the pieces will find their way into the rooms.

littleredteacupwolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

When my husband got his first apartment he had nothing as he had been living in the barracks before. I had furniture that was mine, but I also wasn't moving in for a couple of months (he wanted to be engaged before we lived together). Anyways, I'm a hardcore thrifter. Other than his mattress, I think he spent a max of 350 on the furniture. (Large dinning room table for D&D nights, 8 chairs, a couch, a comfy chair, coffee table, dresser and bed frame.) We still have everything other than the couch. We've slowly some to realize that a couple of things just don't work for us, so we're slowly replacing them. I see all of these people thinking that they need things brand new or everything all at once and I'm just like, "you have time. If you can function without it, wait till you have the money for it."

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Places like Ikea offer items that will help you furnish your home, but don't make the mistake of expecting it to last very long. If you move a couple times, most of it starts to fall apart. Especially larger pieces. So don't spend a fortune on it, and expect to have to replace it after 5 years.

When I had the money in the early 2000s, I invested in some mid-century modern pieces, not only because I love the style, but they last and appreciate in value. I could sell any of them now for at least 2x what I bought them for.

CohibaVancouver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:41:49 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

"Moving" is the crucial piece here.

We've been in our house for 11+ years. All of our Ikea (including our Ikea kitchen and PAX wardrobes) that we purchased when we moved in still works fine and looks good.

That being said, I'm writing this on an Ikea desk I bought 17 years ago. It has been through two moves.

spqr-king ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Follow up: don't buy expensive shit if you have kids. My TV has been hit by more nerf darts than I can count and my sofa is stained beyond repair fortunately neither were expensive and I will replace them as soon as my kids get a bit older. They aren't in awful condition but wear and tear with kids is insane...

Joyjmb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My sister's dresser, grandma's neighbors' lamps, kitchen table from the barn (repainted), third sister's kids playroom couches... it bolstered my confidence replacing these things slowly after I got out of school with personal things I picked out, one at a time.

calloooohcallay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is a timely reminder, so thank you.

I'm about to take my brother shopping for his first apartment. He lived at home all through college and grad school, which is great financially but means he'll be in a crappy first apartment in his mid-twenties, after living with and now working with middle-aged people for years. It's easier to adjust when you're surrounded by people in the same life stage.

He's having a hard time believing that his tiny studio probably won't fit a kitchen table and a couch + coffee table and a desk. He can't picture how he's going to cook in a galley kitchen with one knife, one pot and one skillet. Dude loves to bake but had literally never seen a hand mixer and just assumed he'd be buying his own $300 kitchenaid standing mixer.

Tree_Nerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:42 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

great thought indeed but i wouldnt say its advice. it all comes down to how much they personally want a bunch of shit like their parents. if theyre not smart enough to realize that on their own; they'll probably be tempted to get that stuff regardless of being told or not. its a concept you either understand or learn from bad times later on.

uberderper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also check craigslist or similar online forums. Local classifieds, colleges and universities at year end. Lots of people simply throw out or give away items they don't want or need any more because they can't be bothered spending the time to back and forth with people to get rid of it. They just want it gone without having to pay dump fees. I have a few finds that have lasted me >5 years after picking them up in the side of the road.

Malicteal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My first apartment had two couches I got for free from some friends/neighbors. One was in decent shape. The other was absolute shit, but it was better than sitting on the floor...kinda. My bed consisted of an old mattress/box spring from my mother-in-law.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:10 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Can confirm. I was in my 40's when I lost my house and all its contents in a fire. 25 years of belongings gone overnight. Even with the insurance settlement, it will take years for me to refurbish the house.

Obviously, my first priority is to buy clothing and shoes for my family. That can't wait. And there is no waiting on sales. Then towels, sheets, blankets, beds, etc. Then cookware, bakeware, dishes, flatware, kitchen utensils. Again, these are must haves and you can't wait for a sale.

By the time the new house was built, the insurance proceeds were wearing thin AND I was exhausted by all the shopping and decision making.

So I have entire rooms that are completely unfurnished or are furnished with folding plastic tables and folding chairs from Lowes. In 10 years, the house will be furnished.

BearyPotter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:25 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The house we bought months ago still has no furniture and a bunch of boxes in the front room. We furnished the essentials with what we already had and a few incremental purchases but our home is far from "furnished". All of the boxes are waiting for me to have the time to build some shelves in the basement for long-term storage and for the association garage sale next month.

I'm mentally preparing for the front room to be just empty once the boxes are gone.

AKAkindofadick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

As the youngest child, my Dad was OLD. He was born during the Great Depression and instilled his values on me. It seems that lately not a day goes buy that someone I know comments on this. All my vehicles are paid off and I maintain them myself. I'm finally starting to get ahead and the only purchase I'm interested in is a house.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:50 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Ikea, nothing wrong with having IKEA stuff, I don't plan on buying another other than IKEA until I have a kid, and that kid is old enough to not ruin everything.

I_Zeig_I ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:38:10 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Some other good advice which I started doing is buying second hand appliances and furniture for cheap. It still lasts forever and once it breaks years down the road you can replace it with what you really want.

Valendr0s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:38:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Mine didn't. We always had a house full of furniture.

But they did it with credit cards that they basically never paid off, were in constant debt, lived paycheck to paycheck, and had utilities, creditors, and collections agencies calling constantly to get paid.

I refuse to do that. Which is why my house looks like squatters live there.

jasiskool12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know about other countries but in Australia you can look on Gumtree for cheap or even free items to tide you over till you can afford furniture. That's what I did I got a free set of couches that were below average from a family that was moving and about a year later replaced the first one another year later finished the living room and swapped them out. gave the old ones to a teen in the same situation for free.

NuclearWasteland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Okay, go find yourself a Goodwill distribution center, and or 'bin store'. Many states have them.

What it is is a Goodwill thrift store hub location. It's where they take in inventory and donations, but also where they process them from other stores. So stuff that didn't sell, or that was donated but that they don't want to bother shipping out to other stores ends up here and they put them in 5x10x1 ft wheeled bins and the stuff in those bins is typically sold by weight. Clothes, books, appliances, etc. It's very very cheap if you dig and wrastle with other bargain hunters.

What's great about this is that these locations HATE big furniture so much that they will price it absurdly cheap. Almost free.

I just moved and yesterday was at the one by my house hunting furniture. I picked up a pair of nice solid wood tall chairs for the bar, 5 bux each, four leather padded wood chairs, also solid wood, sort of a dark mahogany look, very mid 2000's looking for 8 bux each. They go nice with the big admitedly sort of beat up but still nice looking and very functional wood poker/dining room table that was $25. That's the entire dining room set in nice dark wood pretty modern looking stuff for under $100. The four shelf solid wood bathroom shelf I got was $5.

Couches are usually $5 - $25, BBQ's, things like that are also priced similarly.

Not every state/city has these locations. They are Goodwill stores, but they are not a regular retail location, these work differently and there are people that make their entire living out of these stores as the cheap stuff can be pretty easily sold for profit once hauled home.

I didn't find any of them in California in my area, but Oregon has a few, and I know other states do as well.

It's also a great place to get bikes. Mountain bikes are usually around $10 and maybe need a tube or a good lube and tinkering, but sometimes are perfectly rideable as is.

The inventory in these places changes over several times a day. If you see it, get it, or it will either be bought or gets pulled from the sales floor and ends up in a bale of recycling to China.

Also, look for liquidators. If you are in Portland, City Liquidators can be a great place to find furniture. They've been around for decades. In San Jose, California, look at BT Surplus, I think it's in Sunnyvale. They do just office furniture and desks and things, the last office chairs I bought for my office there were $25 for a pair. They were good chairs Brent, and I gave them away to friends in need of better chairs when I moved.

Seriously, you can easily furnish a household with this stuff, you just have to look around. My parents have gone to yardsales for a very long time and have furnished and refurnished their house probably 100 times since I've been alive as they found better stuff.

It's pretty easy if you're not super particular, and if you're on a budget, you shouldn't be.

someinvisiblehand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:03 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Going on year 3 of empty "guest room" in our house! Someday we'll replace our old college mattress with a new one, and put that in the guest room. Someday...

ragnarokda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:02 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My mother redoes each of her two living rooms at least once every two years...

The benefit of this is that when I visit her and see something I like I can call dibs and actually receive it in perfect condition within a year.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:28 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Start with craigslist and thrift stores.

Then get stuff slowly over time that is high quality to replace each piece.

Iloveyou_upvoted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

At my age, my parents had a custom home built in the low 300's, and were able to fully furnish it with all new furniture all without going into any debt other than the mortgage. They had 2 brand new vehicles that were paid off, a brand new Crownline boat, and we were going on expensive vacations. I remember 10 day trips to all the Disney parks and Universal and SeaWorld, as well as cruises and trips to the Bahamas and Turks & Caicos islands on all inclusive resorts.. and no, they didn't win the lottery. My dad was in sales, my mom didn't work. The opportunity my dad was given doesn't happen anymore due to corporate greed and comission caps. He ended up quitting when they started capping his pay and works for himself in sales and is doing very well to this day. I struggle just to make $2k/month while he makes it in 2 days...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Depends on the city/country you're in, but a lot of places have Facebook groups or specific websites dedicated to giving away free stuff. Friend of mine in Berlin furnished his entire apartment for free via a Facebook group.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Every time you have some extra money, put a little of it away, and use the rest to buy something new for the house. Got an extra 100 bucks kicking around? Put in some window blinds. Earned that bonus from work? Fancy set of wine glasses it is. Also remember, a great deal of the smaller appliances are wedding gifts.

thenixnerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

People really need to remember this. Furnishing a home can cost like $20k. I guarantee my parents never dropped $20k on furniture.

Ilikepoojokes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I had always actually realized this, I remember when our huge living room just had a shitty recliner and a little tv on a nightstand... looked kinda creepy really

jvale46elite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:32 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

The same goes for tools, I used to wonder how people had so many tools with the price. As a home owner while doing various projects you start adding to the collection over time. You may want to just go blow $1,000 on tools at once but just take your time and borrow when you can.

DangOlTiddies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yup. My husband bought one tool per paycheck until he amassed his current collection. If it was a pricey tool he'd save up for it. My brother on the other hand leased his tools from Snap On right after graduating UTI and he had to pawn them all off within a year's time.

wasdie639 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I realized this right after I had moved out of my shitty little college apartment that my parents helped me furnish with stuff we bought at goodwill and moved into a nicer, slightly larger place. I had nowhere to even put my TV, so that just sat on the floor. My parents were nice enough to have bought me a cheap bed for college, I had a desk and chair for my computer, then a few shitty end tables and a kitchen table and chair set (which I still have) from goodwill for like $35.

I just remember looking at my barren apartment and telling myself these things would come in time and I was just happy to be employed and on my own financially.

klasspirate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That's good advice - but the internet makes it possible to furnish a place for pretty cheap these days. I just moved across country with only part time work, to live with my SO. She had one bed and one dresser. We were lucky enough to get a guest bed from a friend for free. Everything else we bought on Craigslist. We spent $470 total for a large nearly new couch, coffee table, TV stand with mount, awesome 6 person counter high table (with 6 chairs), dresser, and two person patio set. All we need now is a set of book shelves.

It took about two months to find the right deals but if you're patient and search Craigslist every day it's pretty easy to set up a house for cheap. All of the furniture we bought is in great shape and we plan to keep it when we move. Good luck hunting.

biserx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:19 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Recently I moved to a new apartment, which was half furnished but in very bad condition. Instead of just throwing away most of the furniture, I decided to disassemble some things, and reuse the plywood to make another things. I cleaned plywood parts and made small cabinet for the bathroom, stools, small coffee tables. The thing is that you are a bit limited when doing such things because you already have plywood panels which might not fit a regular stool or cabinet, but with a little creativity it's doable. Also, I needed some carpenter tools, so I just bought some used ones from hardware store for a price less than a new coffee table (which I made in the process). Now I am left with carpenter tools and learning slowly how to make a fully customized kitchen, because I'm very limited with space there, so I want to fit everything in, but also to have enough space to move around. And by some calculations I made, it will spare me around 500$ in the end (which is in place where I live, more than a average monthly income).

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Recently I moved to a new apartment, which was half furnished but in very bad condition. Instead of just throwing away most of the furniture, I decided to disassemble some things, and reuse the plywood to make another things. I cleaned plywood parts and made small cabinet for the bathroom, stools, small coffee tables.

The thing is that you are a bit limited when doing such things because you already have plywood panels which might not fit a regular stool or cabinet, but with a little creativity it's doable.

Also, I needed some carpenter tools, so I just bought some used ones from hardware store for a price less than a new coffee table (which I made in the process).

Now I am left with carpenter tools and learning slowly how to make a fully customized kitchen, because I'm very limited with space there, so I want to fit everything in, but also to have enough space to move around.

And by some calculations I made, it will spare me around 500$ in the end (which is in place where I live, more than a average monthly income).


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FrenchFryNinja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:42 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Conversely, don't just put your stuff on the curb. Use Craigslist, offer-up, letgo (both stuff selling apps) to offload it. We always have a jar for cash from the stuff we sell to get rid of it. That cash is our spending money when we travel. You'd be amazed at how much you can get for your stuff and how quickly it adds up.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:46 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

One of my friends decided to move to Australia from Canada to pursue her law degree, so I ended up taking all of her furniture and cooking supplies (including my most cherished possession, a wafflemaker!)

v2Occy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:51 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I saved $12k before I moved out so I could furnish right away. Saved what I could for 1 year making $11 an hour.

carelessthoughts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:13 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I had my place furnished so well after my first year on my own due to thrift stores and resellers (this was before Craigslist was out there). My then girlfriend's mom used to check the paper and tell me when the resellers were getting good stuff. When I had my judgemental parents take a tour they damn near wept with jealously because they wanted me to fail (seriously, but it's a long story)... however I was so young and wanted adventure that most of that stuff is gone because of my traveling and not being smart about storage. Got great stories and experiences though, it was worth it.

Catgirllewis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:40 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is us too. We found an amazing bedroom set from a furniture business retirement sale. It was the floor model and we paid cash. I paid next to nothing for it. But it took 3 people to get it to the upstairs bedroom!

snowflake8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously, thank you for reminding me of this. I have been struggling for the past 2 years in our new house and feel a sense of pressure to have everything perfect.

benthebull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:37 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yes we still have rooms that have little or no furniture. I'd rather wait until we find the right thing for the right price than purchase at cost all sorts of things now.

Having said that, I do love love love browsing through stores looking at furniture. Turns out brand new stuff costs a LOT.

sweetdeereynolds95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for reminding me of this. I just moved into a new place after years of depending on another person. I lost half of the things I had accumulated. Was starting to feel overwhelmed at rebuilding my collection.

DangOlTiddies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:08 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for this op. I'm moving in about 9 months and I have a massive Amazon wish list. I have this picture in my head that I'll have everything I need within months of us moving in but I also know believing that will set me up for failure and disappointment. Thankfully the house we move into will probably have all of the appliances needed, washer and dryer included, but I will need to furnish the bedrooms for the most part. With that being said, if anybody has any helpful advice or know of a subreddit on how to make the move as smooth as possible I would definitely appreciate it!

sweetdeereynolds95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:10 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for reminding me of this. I just moved into a new place after years of depending on another person. I lost half of the things I had accumulated. Was starting to feel overwhelmed at rebuilding my collection.

ricky_spanish_bitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is great advice. It took my husband and I some time after having our first home built 4 years ago to get to the point where every room is furnished. Coming from a background where the struggle was very real for my parents and having only ever lived in apartments as a child, I was definitely overwhelmed with the idea of trying to fill the spaces here. And I didn't want to go into debt like them trying to keep up with the Jones's. We purchased furniture and decor in phases. Buy what you can afford.

ifeelhome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Completely agree. We didn't want to have an empty looking house, so we did thrift stores and looked for cheaper versions of items we knew we wanted nice versions of. $100 sofa table from Walmart when we wanted the $500 table from pottery barn. You not only shouldn't feel obligated to do it all at once, you shouldn't feel obligated to only wait till you have the nicest piece you want.

Primitive_Teabagger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Solid advice. I live with my brother and we hardly have furniture. Our dinner table was free and we use camping or folding chairs. Finally got the old couch from our parent's but that's our nicest piece.

us2bcool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:00 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We once build a house in a new neighborhood, so everyone was basically setting up their households at the same time. We were the only people who didn't furnish the house immediately. I admit I was a little jealous of our neighbors who moved into beautiful homes while we were sitting on a futon in the living room. That is, until three years later when we had an eclectic look that was all paid for and the financial realities our neighbors were dealing with started to hit, in some cases resulting in bankruptcy, foreclosure and in one case divorce. Over furniture.

Not that we're perfect. My husband didn't like the stovetop that came with the house. It was a really nice one, but he wanted a different one for some reason. So he tore out the old one, put in a new one to the tune of $800 and put the old one on Craigslist. The guy who bought it was building a new home and buying all the material on CL. Smart guy. I bet he still has that stovetop, too.

CleaningBird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Man, this is such good advice - it's one of those, 'I knew it was true but when you say it out loud it really hits you how true that is.'

We have some inherited pieces from family, but honestly a lot of our stuff is still college/first-apartment leftovers (we're both early thirties, married a year). When we need to and have the disposable cash, we sell/donate and replace the flimsier things with better-made furniture. It's kind of fun, honestly. We can decide we want to replace the particle board bookshelves with something nicer-looking and sturdier, and then we get the fun of looking around for nice bookshelves. Doing that one piece of furniture at a time stretches out the fun, and keeps us from using credit to pay for things we could just as easily save up and pay cash for.

LiveFromTheChi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:43 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I advocate the slow build just for the deferred reward. When I was 19 I furnished my first apartment by slowly buying pieces cash over the course of about 6 months. My 2nd place I maxed out two credit cards like a moron and took a year to pay them off. Collecting things slowly is way more fun, you appreciate everything more, and you make better decisions.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Plus, try to remember that you don't need a lot of things to be happy. Sometimes having more and more things is actually harmful to happiness.

Miwwies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's the same advice if you live in an apartment. My place could be a catalog for Ikea. Cheap and functional furniture. There is no way I can afford the fancy real wood furniture my parents or grand-parents have.

theDefa1t ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:19 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I actually remember this house getting built because my parents used to live in a trailer for about 4 years after I was born. I remember playing with the thingies used to space out the floor tiles.

noodlynooman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:13 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is something I wish I had realized when I first started out.

Recently, I was able to acquire a very nice futon/couch for free from a friend who was moving and didn't want it anymore. I had been looking at getting a new couch to join our current couch to provide more seating and was looking at spending about $1000. I didn't really want a futon, but you can't beat free!

18114 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:09 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Better advice yet. You don't want to collect all that clutter and decorations,pots and pans and furnishings. Two sets of sheets is plenty. One set of dish ware and not a zillion towels. We had a house fire several years ago. Mainly smoke damage. Much was salvageable. Folks today don't have such formal homes. Start light. I gave away so much of the good remaining items. Some items still had price tags. Be somewhat frugal. I just feel so much better and empowered. All that fussy gadgets for new settlers. Learn as you get older you don't need all that extra baggage. Best of luck.

meteoricmarlin1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:06 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Also rushing to buy furniture means you'll probably end up buying cheaply made things that'll fall apart in a few years, which you'll have to replace. Or you'll buy stuff you don't really even like just because it's a good deal.

poopybunghole69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:24 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This haunts me. Not going to lie. I always thought when people or couples bought a house they have like an extra 20-30k saved up to buy all their furniture and appliances and everything at once. Thinking about it and how that's not the case gives me anxiety. I don't want to buy like 3 plates then have a different set of plates once I have the money. Or buy a TV stand that doesn't match with the couch I buy later. Just thinking about having to go to target and Macy's every damn week to buy something new once I own a house is daunting

yeah-what ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:26:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You don't buy 3 plates, or if you do they're from a thrift shop. You let your friends and relatives know you bought a house, and suddenly everyone wants to get rid of their old stuff they've had boxed up in the basement/attic/garage for years.

fretenvy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:55 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Been married for nearly 10 years, still have the hand-me-down dinner table and couches.

I had a direct report that bought a house and then immediately financed a bunch of furniture. He quickly began telling me he was having a hard time making ends meet on his salary (wanting a raise which I couldn't give because he was capped out). Poor guy always looked mega mega stressed.

jhy12784 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:45 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I mean I just took hand me downs. My parents were selling their house to retire so I took some old stuff form them. And had a family friend selling their house that I took a lot of their old shit as well they didn't want (dishes toaster silverware etc)

I know not everybody has those options, but it's worth keeping an eye out for

-Tibeardius- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:20 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Totally agree. Whenever I need furniture I usually look at either building it or buying used. No way I'm paying $2k for a couch.

Challenge_The_DM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:31 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is spectacular advice. This comes from someone that didn't have the wisdom to see this when I bought my first house.

spartantalk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:12 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

A bunch of people ask me how I have so much furniture, it's because my parents downsized and I got a lot of stuff. I then got some stuff from people moving out of Uni. Stuff that matches stays, anything else gets passed to someone else.

zombiebomber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is currently my boyfriend and I right now. So far we only got a couple desks for our computers and a bed. We got some folding chairs when we first moved in and we carry them around with us if we need to sit for something. Watching TV? Sitting in our folding chairs. Eating? We are on the floor and the chair is the table. Thankfully I have a good job so it won't be like this for too much longer but we figured getting one piece of big furniture or a few smaller pieces every paycheck and our little townhouse should be filled in no time.

la-wolfe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I LOVE this advice. I don't have my own place yet (with roommates), but when I think about what kind of place is like, I think of how I'm going to furnish everything forgetting that I don't have to furnish everything at once. Thank you for the reminder.

IamAwesome-er ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:20 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I always buy furniture from craigslist. Its amazing what people are willing to get rid of for sometimes next to nothing. A lot of times its in great shape too....

Just dont see the point of spending thousands on something when you can spend a hundred or two.

acer5886 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much aside from one couch all of our furniture came through 4 things 1-gifted by family when we got married, 2-freecycle 3 craigslist 4-second hand stores

One of our favorite things to do is go to furniture stores and look at styles that we like and then we wait till we see something like that pop up. We got the exact entertainment center off of freecycle because it had a large scratch on the front.

evoblade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

On the same note, their first house/apartment together, their first vacation, car, etc might have all been much humbler than the standard they are now accustomed to.

gemushka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:22 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Your needs also change a lot over time so if you buy everything all at once in 5-10 year time you are more likely to need to replace a chunk of it at once.

I did this exact thing when I got my first place in 2008. I now have a load of expensive furniture that doesn't suit my needs but I wouldn't get enough return to make selling it worth while. I thought it was a good idea to "invest" in good quality furniture that would last but really wish I had saved the money as it would make it easier to justify replacing it.

yeahisaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'm glad you posted this. I have felt guilty in the past about being so spartan. On the other hand I didn't want to fill my place with a bunch of old shit from garage sales.

jeezy-chreezy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

When I bought my place I spent $1600 on a pull-out couch and then bought he rest from Jysk. My dad jokes around and constantly asks me if "I need another Norwegian" to help me assemble anything. Pretty sure Jysk is Danish, but yeah, I needed his help building the cheap stuff for weeks.

SonOfTK421 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Word.

If our coffee table hadn't been $120, marked down from over $1000, it wouldn't be here. If we hadn't had zero interest over 12 months twice in a row, we wouldn't have a sectional or a coffee table. Same for our bedroom set and mattress. If we hadn't thrifted them, we wouldn't have a washer, dryer, and/or dishwasher. We wouldn't have a 40-gallon fish tank that I love or the random artwork and decorations. Without a great friend we wouldn't have a grandmother clock.

Fact is, we aren't done by a long sight. Our main level is finally done after three years, our basement is barebones but ready to be finished when we have the time and money, and our upstairs has one room painted and trimmed with zero accoutrements.

Our kids will probably think we're wealthy. We'll know otherwise, and they'll be well-versed in all the hard work that went into their comfortable lifestyle.

ZekeDragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

That's strange, last I checked I was born before my parents could even get into a house. After I was born, they moved into a little blue house, and got a whole bunch of furniture from second hand stores and from family.

Had it ever since.

othermegan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:19 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*

This goes for just more than artwork, which seems to be the main focus here. I am 24. 2 years ago my parents, who have been married for 38 years, just bought their first living room set. Until then, they were either broke newlyweds or raising kids who were very destructive. We've gone through several furniture sets but they were all passed down from family/neighbors. It was only once they knew we wouldn't destroy it that they got their own. They were in their late 50s when that happened.

machine_fart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:14 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is so important and as a 30 year old living in a house for just over a year I'm starting to come to this realization. I'm saving for a nice bedset and it's expensive, and I still need accent tables and side tables for my couch and oh my god my house feels barren and cobbled together. I have a ton of hand-me-down furniture. The realization that progress is slow and you won't have your ideal furnishings immediately and actually have to work to earn them is important, as is balancing the rest of your expenses with those needs (vacations, food, mortgage, car stuff, etc.) It is harder than I thought it'd be.

smallpoxchamp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:05 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It'll be two years in November that I've been a homeowner and I remind myself this every time I think, "I still don't have proper blinds up." I'm still using paper shades.

nightmute-wombats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:28 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for posting this !

I literally spent over a decade in relationship, accumulating "stuff" - thrift store and CL finds included. These past two years completely single, I've lost or gotten rid of lots of stuff to free myself. It's overwhelming to think of how long it will take to build up a warm cozy vibe again. But this is a nice reminder - that it's ok to not have all the stuff my parents have had in their house.

BlueLikeHim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:20 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is something my dad made sure to nail into my head. He works in a social field and sees so many young couples go into debt from furnishing houses. Nowadays my parents have custom couches, a bunch of antiques, and a master bedroom dresser that's bigger than most small cars, but they started out with a card table and mattresses on the floor.

Frugal_Octopus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:57 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is why I still have my 50" plasma 720P tv from 2007. It's amazing how much more oemy you have if you don't keep up with the Joneses on the TV front by itself, let alone everything else.

ragnarkar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I've moved to maybe 15-20 places over the last 15 or so years. I've learned to live the good life without needing good furniture or else I'd be beyond broke now.

bodeejus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is so true. My mom always said how long it took her and my dad to get all their furniture and decor. So ever since high school I have been collecting furniture and decorations that I can use in my house one day. Luckily my parents have a small shed in the back I can keep all of it in until I find a bigger apartment or house. If your parents let you have some space or you can afford a storage unit it is never too early to start collecting!

Edit: Spelling

SheCalledHerselfLil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You SHOULD furnish your house completely when you move in. But with the bookcase and desk you find in the alley on dorm move out day, the $40 second-hand ikea bed off craigslist, and the dishes from the thrift store.

Then, for the next weeks, months, decade, and lifetime, always be upgrading. Find the nice mid-century coffee table at the estate sale, upgrade, and sell/donate your old one.

Do this for everything you own. You'll end up with a a selection of nice things, and they each have a unique story.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

As a single, "middle-class" dude living in LA Imma just save this post for when I can afford to live anywhere larger than a 10 x 10 bedroom in an apartment shared with 3 other dudes until I can afford to put the down payment on a cardboard box of a condo when I'm 50.

cFlasch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:01 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Or, on the flip side, you can be like me and my husband- we've been in our house for nearly a year and just now got an actual bedframe. Prior to that it was 8 months of a mattress on the floor and prior to that was 4 months of an air mattress. We literally have no other furniture in our bedroom.

The decision fatigue is strong with this one.

longviewpnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:57 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's kind of surreal when you get to that place in your life where you are on the other side of comfortable. Like I just went to the store and bought the exact curtains I wanted, not ones that were on sale. I got home and decided it would look better with another pair and I can just go buy another pair. 5 years ago I would have lived with sale curtains that didn't quite fit the room and if they barely covered the window we would just deal. When you get there try to take a moment to appreciate it. Also, try not to forget what it was like to struggle.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It took months convincing my girlfriend of this reality.

She wanted to spend thousands of dollars on furniture we would never use, so the house we have would be "full" or whatever. She even floated the idea of temporarily getting furniture from one of those predatory lending places.

Not that those places can't serve a good purpose -- there are a few things that they rent out that can probably help someone get by in a pinch... but that rarely happens. They never get used properly.

riotcowkingofdeimos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:29 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I was sort of thinking about this the other day. When I was 26 a friend of mine visited me. When I gave him a tour of my house I was living in at the time he said "Dude... your house... it's like a monk lives here." I hadn't even considered how little I owned until it was pointed out.

Now I have a adequately furnished home. But looking back, I started out my true adult life with two folding metal chairs, a dresser and a mattress on the floor. It just grows from there.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:04 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

We are buying a house right now. We have budgeted liquid cash for furnishings.

However, there are plenty of furniture stores that offer 12 months zero percent interest. I've taken advantage of that before and I'll do it again. It's a great way to pay something down, without having to swallow the whole pill at once. There is a caveat to that... Can I afford to pay this off in the event we have a loss of income? If the answer is no, we either pay in full now or don't buy at all.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:53 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I got lucky when I moved out my great grandma was moving in to my grandma's due to alzheimers. So I got all her kitchen appliances and come lamps and tables.

ttuurrppiinn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:48 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Very true. My girlfriend and I subsisted on the old furniture that relatives gifted us and cheaper items from Target/Walmart for the first four years of our professional lives. It wasn't nice, glamorous or particularly comfortable. But, it did provide us with enough to get by with plenty of cash flow leftover for saving. We just bought our first true piece of nice furniture this year, and it felt so much better doing it with the knowledge that we built a strong financial foundation (emergency funds, retirement accounts, etc.) beforehand.

WatermelonRhyne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:07 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

When I got out of school, I bought some decent but cheap furniture. I had plenty of money left over and so getting a real table instead of a cardtable was completely within my budget.

I told my mom during our weekly phone chats that I had gotten new furniture. She asked me "well... do you want furniture like ours?"

I was confused, and thought maybe they were about to buy some new furniture and were going to offer theirs or something.

I said yes, I'd like something like theirs. Half way through saying "but I couldn't afford that yet", my mom goes into a long speech about "kids these days" and how long it took for them to get to where they had such nice furniture.

I never could explain how the furniture I had already bought was in my budget.

It's been 4 years, and it's one of those conversations you remember and stay kisses about.

GreenLanternCorps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:41 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man when I first moved and realized nutmeg and cloves don't just magically appear in your spice cabinet I knew shit just got real.

Shutupandbuymeacar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:19 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for this perspective. I'm not quite to that point of my life, but this gives me something to remember every time I have to buy furniture or something.

koolman101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:38 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I disagree. Nowadays with the internet you can get a lot of things for cheap furniture especially.

I recently moved out and got 2 couches one was free and the other was only 50. If you can tolerate used stuff it's totally doable. I was however living in a nearly empty house for a month.

atomicbomb75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:01 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Married 20 years this year, and have only just bought a really nice leather lounge. We had a crappy lounge for probably the last 12-13 years, and before that, shudder...

SoDoesYourFace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:27 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know about that. Aside from mattresses and our baby crib, we furnished our entire house from thrift store 50% off sales, garage sales, and a few hand me downs from family when they have been getting rid of stuff. Though now that I think about it we have been together almost a decade....

Roxytumbler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:37 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Just get everything at Goodwill. The same souvenir bought in Cuba will show up at giodwill for $2.

And all of our artwork is quite classy...all from thrift stores.

Eekhelp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:38 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for this reminder. Just moved into a new place and I've been looking at all different kinds of furniture, stressed about how much it all costs. It's nice to be reminded that I don't have have my place looking perfect and put together right away, and that I shouldn't throw all my money into it.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ fat_tire_fanatic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:14 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You will remember your new place with the fun times you've had with your friends and family in it. I remember those events like they were yesterday but am always surprised when I see pictures as I don't remember what he house looks like.

autarky1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:21 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I just want to point out that your life always changes and your furniture should be able to change with it. Its okay to have Ikea furniture in your 20s. My apartment 3 years ago was literally furnished from the dollar store.

But now, that I'm older and own my own home, I love sleeping in my wood bed. I like the sense of permanence and knowing your MDF shelves aren't going to fall apart. I also like not being embarrassed by some of the things I used to buy used.

Corey307 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:27 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'll hopefully be moving to Texas soon, will be buying my first home. I plan to largely furnish it from second hand and thrift store's. I can put together a serviceable kitchen for $100. Craigslist for fridges and lawn mowers. I'll upgrade many furniture and household items over time. Yes it would be cheaper to buy wants to cry wants but I'd rather have liquid funds to handle anything unexpected during the first year or two. .

Flagdun ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 04:53:26 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

...this advice also goes for the house itself, vehicles, etc...younger generations feel entitled to instantly have the same lifestyle it took parents or grandparents a lifetime to earn/achieve.

[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 05:29:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

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oldman_66 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:51:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Gen X here. I heard the same lazy and entitled stuff when I was starting out too. It's just a common trend phase we all hear. I bet the boomers heard the same thing and are just regurgitating.

In a few years you'll be repeating all the same stuff your parents used to tell you that you swore to yourself you'd never say to your kid. You know, like " money doesn't grow on trees" or what ever silly admonishment. I don't mean any cruel statements.

WMD_RightChair ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:47:59 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah any time I hear a lady at work complain about her "millennial" son's "entitled" friends and how "that generation has no work ethic" blah blah I just roll my eyes. Some day I'll tell her: We prefer the term "snake people".

oldman_66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My personal feeling is when we're young we're still finding ourselves. Eventually we decide what we want to do in life or what we enjoy and we pursue it with enthusiasm.

But when you're young you have a whole menu of choices. So any could be just as good as the other. You try some, and may not like it, and keep going to the next choice,until you find your passion. Then the work ethic comes because you love it(or at least can tolerate it) and it's more then just "a job".

Don't get discouraged by the haters they are everywhere, and are going nowhere.

TiTaak ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:42:17 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Read the article, couldn't see anywhere that millenials work harder.

Also, curious about where they got their numbers ?

Wouldn't it make more sense to compare income then and now for a given position ? Also, owning or not a house isn't really meaningfull, it doesn't depends entirely on income. Weren't banks more chill with Loan "back then" ? Wasn't the house market cheaper compared to now ? Weren't our parents buying less crap than we do today, and thus could allocate a bigger part of their budget toward loan ?

This article is fairly lackluster.

Secretagentmanstumpy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:09:15 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are retired now and they have never owned a new car. The $8k my Dad spent once on a used minivan was the most he ever paid for a car. These are professionals with a net worth of a few million.

aggierandy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:13:33 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is good advice and I'm sorry to see you down voted but your phrasing sucks. I hate the word entitled.

Consider that the market has changed in the last 30 years. That 800 sq ft starter home my dad bought at 19 is either torn down or in a slum. And an apartment costs 1/3 of my income. Financing is more readily available and banks seem to have no problem putting people in a bad situation with a loan.

That 20 yr old car he bought isn't reliable anymore. And because he worked so much when we were kids, he never taught us how to do your own mechanic work. Not to mention the hurdles the car manufacturers put in front of shade tree mechanics.

Baby boomers changed the economy. The market catered to them to such an extent that young people are now in an economy that isn't setup for them to flourish. Top that off with economic downturn, ballooning costs of student loans, and exploding medical costs and you have a generation that feels like they can't get ahead.

Then you call them entitled just to spit in their eye.

Flagdun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:30 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I was speaking towards people living beyond their means because they want stuff now instead of earning money to pay for it first...this behavior spans generations to to some degree.

however, too many young people are lured into playing the debt game...and are losing even before they get their lives started...its more than a feeling of not being able to get ahead, it's a reality.

aggierandy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:58 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed. I think we need to do a better job educating young people about financial planning and reasonable budgeting. What percentage you should be spending on what. How much student loans you can take on. Etc.

tkotex ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:08:25 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Can confirm. Want it now. Gotta have it.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:48 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Someone should tell parents that too... "You have nothing in your house" "you need to buy furniture" "you can't sleep on that mattress forever" "I can't believe you don't have any nice silverware"

spookynutz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:36 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

It's not an option for everyone, but If you have the means, buy everything you need before you move into your first place and you can have nicer furnishings than your parents.

When we felt it was time to leave the nest, my girlfriend and I made a long and comprehensive list, and spent almost a year using the money we would have spent on rent and utilities, but used it to buy everything necessary to completely furnish a two bedroom apartment. During this time I would just buy a few things off the list every week, box it up, label it, and then cram it in my room or parents basement. I'd bring a tape gun, boxes and bubble wrap home from work when necessary.

We were making $8-10 per hour doing factory and retail, but because we weren't paying bills or rent, we could afford to buy the highest quality items and didn't have to compromise on anything. Even 15 years later, we still have a lot of the original stuff, because there has been no reason to replace it.

Quality flatware and every stainless steel oxo kitchen utensil imaginable, dining sets, glassware, Pyrex containers, measuring cups and spoons, quality knives, cutting boards, pots and pans, paper towel dispenser, coasters, serving dishes, $250 microwave, toaster, slow-cooker, blender, clothes iron, ironing board, plasma TV, washer and dryer, hampers, laundry basket, oak dining table and lamps, stereo equipment and speakers, storage containers, drawer organizers, entertainment center and shelving, office desk and chair, months worth of cleaning supplies and toiletries. High-end electric toothbrush and electric razor, towels, sheets, rugs, extra light bulbs, aluminum foil, wax paper, saran wrap, shower curtain rings, power tools, hand tools, a glue-gun, office supplies, holiday wrapping paper, etc.

Any non-perishable item I used while living with my parents, I'd go out and buy a higher quality one. There are dozens of things you don't even think about needing to have until you're in a situation where you no longer have them. You can also spend on luxuries you otherwise couldn't afford in a self-supporting situation. Like a stainless steel restaurant toothpick dispenser, which I still have and use.

We had set aside $4000 for emergencies, a couch, a treadmill, and miscellaneous furniture to be delivered directly to wherever we ended up, so we wouldn't have to store or move them. Loading the rental truck took less than an hour, since everything was already boxed, labeled and organized.

Almost all of my friends and relatives were in a position to have done the same thing, but all took the route of moving out flat broke with nothing but hand-me downs, and then living like Lenny from the Simpsons. Some are still doing that to this day.

This strategy also allowed us to save up very quickly for a down payment on a house while renting an apartment.

funchy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:19 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

No. My parents stuck to buying only what they needed. They didn't need the biggest tv, an espresso machine, designer blinds throughout, or a $3,000 couch.

My parents also stuck to buying preowned or being thrilled to have hand me downs. They visited thrift stores, not the mall.

At Xmas they didnt blow up their credit cards or give their kid dozens of gifts. They didn't have a car payment or a credit card payment. In a way they gave me the most valuable gift: how to be happy living within my means.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:38 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, I'd say do what's comfortable for you.

I bought a house, went into a little debt to furnish it. The debt is stressful, but it's a lot less stress than me starting at things and finding them to be unfinished, that nagging feeling....

The trick is to have a plan. Set a budget, and figure out how many months it'll take you to pay it off. If you stick to your plan, it'll be fine.

Unpopular opinion in this sub, but a little debt is not the end of the world for feeling comfortable in your own home.

Silas06 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:00:16 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Get crafty. Make furniture out of pallets/crates. Explore garage/estate sales. Frequent the craigslist section. You can usually find someone moving that's getting rid of really nice furniture for free or otherwise.

80s_Teen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:59:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

You can usually find someone moving that's getting rid of really nice furniture for free or otherwise.

This is how you get bedbugs.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:40:52 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

If you're still in your teens, and you're interested, you could also do what I did and purchase the sorts of things most people ask for in a wedding registry like cookware, a vacuum cleaner, even a Christmas tree when they're on sale after the holidays all along, piece by piece on your own, and then ask people to put money towards furniture as a "wedding gift." My fiancรฉ and I aren't getting married for 7 more months, but when we got our apartment we sent out save the dates and included information on the fact that we would like a couch and now rather than a blender a year down the road. And if you're concerned about people thinking poorly of that, they're probably not close enough to you to justify spending the money to entertain them at a wedding :b

SharpAsATick ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:58:11 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is completely accurate and one of the only problems with the internet and concerning millennials. Many of them see what their parents and friends parents have and believe they somehow got a better deal in life, that it was easy and they are getting screwed, there are plenty of places to get that notion reinforced.

That said, I know I am going to be either hated or reprimanded for posting this in a thread intended to help young people feel better but for my two children, they will not have this realization to personally look upon.

In our case, we lived in a shithole for a while and everything OP said is true, I thought it would be like that forever, always in debt, always having debt, taking years to pay off, having shitty second hand or makeshift furniture etc.. then I started a business out of my frustration and worked several years 18 or so hours a day, hit it big. I was just piling money into a bank account (which was silly) and my wife asked if we could afford a new couch. I looked at the ratty couch, looked around at my surroundings.. then I looked at our finances (because I had previously steadfastly refused to believe it was "ours" after being poor so long) and realized.. HA.. a couch? We dumped the shithole, bought a great house and furnished every single room with new stuff. The only thing we took with us was clothing. We didn't even pack the kitchen utensils.

From their perspective, it literally took a week.

That said, they have both learned the results of hard work. My eldest started a business a year ago (admittedly with a 500 dollar loan from me) and after a year is already making what I made at 40 (my previous 9-5 job) My youngest has a stand selling something or is selling something to friends virtually all the time. I am pretty sure they'll both turn out just fine, even with the "silver spoon". They have started their lives with "I can" rather than "I can't" and it's something (not the money part) I preach to them virtually every day.

My point here isn't that you'll strike it rich, it also isn't that what the OP said isn't true, it is for 99.9% of people. I think my point is never give up and always keep trying? Not sure. If it can happen to me, someone who was (and in someways still is) supremely lazy, it can happen to anyone.

This isn't a humble brag, I am completely anonymous, I get no life karma for lying to you, it's just that when browsing the front page and I see posts like this, I know what I am going to get and sometimes I feel like it's my job to remind people (based on my experience) that the system isn't fixed, the game isn't rigged. I am you.. literally, I am NOT special in any way.

Millennials ARE getting screwed, they are getting screwed by the internet and everyone telling them they can't or that being poor or stuck is the new way of life. These posts sometimes end up going the way of "yeah, sucks to be me" or something and that's depressing to me, I want everyone to have what I have. I didn't win the lottery. I tried, worked hard and succeeded.

Don't settle for status quo.

CharlesBronsonsaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Supremely lazy huh? Sounds like me and I work from home running my own business. It pays the bills but admittingly I need to do a bit more to increase my savings. In curious to hear what you were doing 18 hours a day if you don't mind dharinv.

soky01 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:51:12 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

This is terrible advice. Don't buy furniture that is too expensive for your budget. Save up before you move and buy cheaper things first. Get things second-hand from family and friends. Then when you can afford to buy better furniture give the cheaper stuff to other relatives and friends that are in need.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ fat_tire_fanatic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:19:11 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think our comments conflict. The point was to take it easy. Your advice is just as good with a different approach.

soky01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:59 on July 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

After rereading your post I agree with you. Everything doesn't have to be completed directly. It takes time to get it right I guess that is your point.

TheYearOfThe_Rat ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 10:44:23 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I'll just collect my furnishings from the dumpster, as I did for any other rental appartment of mine, thank you. The better alternative is to pay nothing, where nothing is due. As for sleeping accomodation - that's probably the only thing which you should spend your money on.

CopEatingDonut ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:31 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Tell that to my wife...

No, Seriously, someone tell this to my wife... My Credit Card is getting rugburn from all the friction and fucking

heidischallenge ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:22 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

I was fortunate that my grandmother died during my last year of college. My parents stored her things for me. When I moved out i had some furniture and small kitchen appliances. Also some china. I still use my great grandmother's rolling pin.