It started when Musk replied to a tweet from earlier in the week from WhatsApp cofounder Brian Acton, where he tweeted "It is time. #deletefacebook." Facebook bought WhatsApp for $19 billion in 2014, making Acton a billionaire.
On Friday morning, Musk answered Acton's tweet with "What's Facebook?"
"Delete SpaceX page on Facebook if you're the man?" a fan chimed in.
"I didn't realize there was one. Will do," Musk replied.
In subsequent tweets, Musk reiterated that the SpaceX page "will be gone soon" and that he "literally never seen it even once."
Less than 30 minutes after that tweet, the official Facebook page for SpaceX, along with that of Tesla, vanished.
I laughed at this site's name because I thought it was a joke. I clicked and and it is a real site and I laughed even harder. So much laugh density in a single comment!
Flickr is actually pretty good. I thinks it's one of the few image sites that allow you to upload RAW images. A lot of professional photographers keep their work on it. You can even restrict access to your images
manubfr · 337 points · Posted at 19:01:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Isn’t instagram also owned by Facebook? If so should they be consistent and delete those as well? Should Elon delete his instagram accoubt if he has one?
Same, found out a few weeks ago myself. Glad I kept photos of myself and anything political off of Instagram. You can have the photos of my cooking all you like, not gonna cook Putin dinner no matter how much he likes the look of my honey glazed salmon
Given where my mother works, my data has been tracked for a long time so I am used to my data no longer being private among other revelations. I just have no desire for Marc Zuckerfool to use my data for $$$ & to manipulate me towards his investors political leanings.
I like Instagram a lot, but I never quite understood why it won out in the early days of social media photo posting. Other apps and platforms at the time had better filters, better resolution, more options for aspect ratios, and more versatile social options. I think Instagram just beat other apps to the punch with userbase by getting the app promoted by high-profile people on Twitter. It's unfortunate that products that are mediocre, relative to their competition, win out based on popularity contests. Sometimes I wish more people were more ruthless in their consumerism, and actually tried out more products and weighed them against each other and then conversed with their friends about the best one to use. I think we'd all have much better products if that were the case.
It's called network effects. Platforms like Facebook, reddit, or even operating systems like Windows all have network effects. Basically the more users you gain on the platform, the more valuable the platform is.
One of the strategies for competing in a market with network effects is to just be first (mainstream) product, because once you gain critical mass, it doesn't matter how shitty you are because your customers aren't willing to switch to another platform.
I know the phenomenon. I'm just saying I wish people were more discerning out of the gate and willing to suffer the small cost of entertaining alternatives.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 00:01:52 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think part of the reason was because it was an iOS exclusive in the beginning. Back then it was considered cool to be associated with Apple devices.. You know, part of the IN crowd..
May as well delete all social media since they are all selling your info.
Insta also is less strict. At least when I created my account. I used a fake name and my spam email address, I think it’s much harder to do that on Facebook.
Not just selling your info, but from this guys tweet/thread he downloaded his stuff from FB, and FB kept regular phone calls (and durations names etc of said calls) from his phone, and no these were not "fb calls" but from the actual phone itself - link: https://twitter.com/dylanmckaynz/status/976369669874491392
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:58:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What's interesting is how many people this is shocking. FB Messenger explicitly asked for permission to log calls, and even has a toggle for it in its settings under continuous call and SMS matching, along with Phone Events.
Nope. It's just as easy. Just gotta have an extra email address that doesn't already have an account tied to it. The email address is literally the only thing you can't just make up.
What? Why? There's no difficulty in using a throwaway email address you just created and signing up for a totally fake Facebook profile.
[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 19:52:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But it is not throwaway really. They know who you actually are. They have cookies that track your browsing habits, sucks up personal data you provide to trusted sites, know your IP address, etc. Once they realize this insta account matches that gmail, this address, that reddit account, this FB account it all goes into your dossier that is then sold.
Yeah. I really did not like it when facebook tried to make me download an app and provide my phone number. Out of pure stubbornness i refused to do either, they were easy to bypass at first but with every update they made it a little harder. I had to go to desktop mode if i wanted to message etc. So all this time there was a space at the top of the page asking for my phone number and telling me everyone else who had. After one update facebook basically gave me the finger and stuck their tongue out af me, as suddenly my phone number was entered into the bar in grey text waiting for me to hit the submit button, every single time i logged in after that. I had never downloaded an app for facebook or snapchat or insta and never logged into the default facebook app on my phone that was undeletable. I had never even given my number in a facebook message.
TL;DR those fuckers somehow combed data and found my phone number with enough certainty of the accuracy to type it in for me in the space i had been ignoring for like a year.
I havent been on for probably almost a year now, but i have to admit that i miss seeing my friends babies and the ease of keeping in contact with old friends (dont really miss hearing the gorey updates throughout labor or details about childrens bowel movements, though)
I mean, yes, we probably should stop using social media. I know many people who live perfectly happy lives without it. The only people who truly benefit from social media are businesses, and the lack of regulation on business social media use is gross.
My mother (50s) recently found her entire elementary school class (they are from Peru and are all over the world now) and they were able to have a reunion last year. That’s pretty cool if you ask me, and would not have been possible without social media since they had all lost contact.
For one, there is very little advertising restrictions as far as I can tell. Ads disguised as articles or even people are rampant. There's also the sickinging amount of facebook scams. I myself paid $40 for a star projector, only for it to never show up. People flooded the page with comments of "SCAM" and "DO NOT BUY" about 1 month later (when they should have showed up.) About 2 weeks later, the exact same ad showed up on my page, except this time the site disallowed comments. Luckily I used paypal so I was able to get my money back rather easily, but the fact that they were still allowed to advertise was unbelievable.
Oh they arent just selling in this case. They are also irresponsibly compiling massive amounts of detailed data on people.. 30 years ago this would be considered a poorly veiled surveillance company. There was a profile of every American made by cambridge analytica, with tons of data points (more data points depending how much you like ot share or react) that are scarily accurate. And cambridge analytica was doing what Obamas 2012 campaign did. Facebook knew after the fact but did nothing to protect its users from what happened 4 years later. I dont think people understand just how much information can be derived from liking a few brands and celebrities and reacting to some posts, let alone excessive engagement intertwined in your daily life commonly done by many Americans. And there are no rules or regulations about what can be done with this data.
Edit: And once these things are sold, all this information combined with seperate data on you from other sources just paints an even more accurate, complete, and certain profile of you.
I am just waiting for employers to start using this shit in the next 5 years. (Unless a huge majority of the country collectively decides to take it seriously and put their foot down saying it is unnacceptable how things currently stand). But it will be really easy if someone who doesnt want changes decides they want to work to prevent them, because they can analyze this data and determine what strategy works best for whom and target the message that reaches you to evoke a certain reaction.
With facial recognition in photos becoming much more powerful (thanks in large part to a Facebook themselves), if there's a single photo of your face on your account (or possibly even a friend's account), it wouldn't be that hard for them to figure out who you are, and still track you.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:40:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Social media is supposed to be like my wife on a business trip. I know she’s fucking around on me but she at least tries to hide it.
Yeah the advertising side and all the data is through the Facebook platform, there isn’t any difference when it comes to all that
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 22:24:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Does Instagram have quiz apps used to gather people's information and then access the data of all the friends of the people who answer quizzes followed by using all of that data and those ties to then present specific personalities with individually targeted propaganda messages to suppress or create voters?
I don't think it does.
It's the platform. And we should stay on-message with this, so that no platform as dangerous as it has become ever occurs again.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:53:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
IG as far as I know doesn't collect the same level of information on it's users. That's the thing with Facebook, they know EVERYTHING about you.
Facebook is the one being used here, not the instigator.
and honestly no I've not seen any political stuff on Insta besides what my friends have uploaded themselves. Although I only ever look at the friends timeline.
[deleted] · 10 points · Posted at 19:55:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It is not just Cambridge. Obama did a similar thing in 2012 but it did not have the Russian element so it was not a controversy, which makes sense. I am not trying to say the two are identical or comparable, just that FB intentionally set up leaky buckets because that is good for business. The abuse was inevitable, if not intended.
I'm from the UK so we haven't really been looking at the Russian element, and it was British news that broke it.
It's more the use of deliberately false attack ads and the quote from CA that elections should be fought on fears, not facts. That and the offering of entraping the other candidates to the undercover reporter.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:14:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh it most likely did, but the British news haven't been covering that so it isn't a current controversy.
The Channel 4 investigation was originally supposed to be 5 parts, Trump was part 3, and then the other two never came out. They're rumoured to be on last years election and Brexit (I wonder why our Brexiteer PM wouldn't want those going out?).
It is way more than that- what you refer to doesnt even dip its little toe into the data harvesting. This is seperate from the “troll army” that sought to spread misinformation and discord. I dont know about the British side though, I am just saying this to emphasize that it is way deeper than what you said. They would know who to target and how in anyway they wanted for nearly every single American because of the data they harvested and the algorithms that allows them to create.
But still, with algorithms that could happen on any platform, all I'm saying is it's dangerous that people are blaming Facebook specifically rather than Cambridge Analytica, because then they'll only have their guard up on Facebook.
If the emphasis is on a third party (which were actually the ones doing the targeting) then people will keep their guard up on all platforms. Twitter hasn't been mentioned by the news cycle but it absolutely happened there too.
The attention being directed soley on Facebook distracts from the real shady shit.
Facebook is irresponsibly allowing it to happen and are profiting, they are absolutely responsible. I dont need to mention Obama 2012 because another responent to you already did.
Remember when facebook added options so you could “react” instead of just “liking”? Why do you think they did that? That provides a wealth of knowledge to better predict peoples reactions to different things, and facebook has the power to target and test people to compile more data on them. Cambridge Analytica just beat them at their own game, but make no mistake that the massive amount of data was available to anyone because of facebooks actions. And they took no preventative or corrective actions after knowing what Obamas 2012 campaign did.
because they do. On the Facebook Ads platform, under the Ad Set level, you can cross post your ads to instagram. FB and IG's data, and advertising is intertwined. If any of you have worked with Fb ads before, and seen how you can target wealthier zip codes, 'engaged shoppers', and a million other sub-sub-sub-sub(....) categories, you'd understand how Russia did what they did quite clearly, or anyone spreading fake news/shit ecommerce products for that matter.
sags95 · 1 points · Posted at 20:07:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not quite. In a technical sense the abuses were related to the a lack of oversight for facebook's Graph API. The API is the access point for user data, and a user's interaction on pages and photos. Instagram's API is not nearly as robust.
It’s unlikely, since Instagram has less potential for data mining, but i suppose if you wanted to stop supporting the company and giving them Ad revenue deleting Instagram would help.
Only if you assume their Facebook and Instagram have similar guts. That's possible; I don't know. But it's not like all these social media platforms are built on the same skeleton, so they have different exploits, meaning an insecure Facebook app doesn't imply an insecure Instagram app.
Oh, so you agree that being worried that Instagram is owned by Facebook is silly then? It can happen on any platform and Facebook weren't the ones actively doing it, Cambridge Analytica were using the Facebook platform (and most likely Twitter also) to do it.
Instagram being owned by Facebook isn't part of the issue at all.
No, the issue is that Facebook has proven itself untrustworthy with our data. That reputation then applies to any platform that Facebook owns.
It was Facebook who then provided user data to CA, (leaked/sold/w.e.). So you can expect Facebook to do the same on any platform it owns. It's more about the company, and Facebook's willingness to provide said data for such political targeting to occur.
Any platform could be ripe for data abuse, and it's up to the companies and their morals to decide how to handle it. That in turn will drive consumer participation on those platforms.
HLef · 1 points · Posted at 12:19:34 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you have Instagram or WhatsApp, or use an Oculus then Facebook still gets your data.
??? Maybe for Elon’s PR purposes. But there is no difference as far as data is concerned, who runs the platform (Mark), and how it is used. But I guess that doesn’t fit some people’s narrative.
As for the information you put on either platform, well, that’s completely up to you.
Well its more about utility. Facebook has become a place where degenerative psuedo-science and inconsistent and usually plainly wrong ideologies (that just express different groups’ psychological pathologies) stream into your face. WHY subject yourself to that degenerative process? Unknowningly maybe. Instagram isnt quite the same.
And LinkedIn, where they're likely being tasked with recruiting efforts. And the other 20 or so channels that are available. Social media is a lot bigger than Facebook, and there's probably more work in social media if it goes away, not less.
And, you know ... reddit. You know, that site that's constantly talking about Elon, Tesla and SpaceX? Seems like an important place for their social media team to focus on if you ask me.
Facebook is the most dominant by a fair margin. Managing a Facebook presence is hence the single most important role of most social media teams. I say that as someone who hasn't signed in to a Facebook account in over a year.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:12:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I disagree saying it's the most important. It's the biggest social media platform but not with future generations. It also doesn't change its losing numbers rapidly these past couple years.
Well, I won't miss it if it disappears, but it certainly still matters now.
What any of this actually means for Tesla/SpaceX social media employees is anyone's guess (who knows how large that team even is) but having snap decisions made by Musk when he's apparently never even seen the Facebook page has to be a bit demoralizing for whoever was running that. Again, I'm not really opposed to him doing this, but that doesn't preclude empathy for the lower-level employees.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:57:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It somewhat matters. By that I mean if you already have Twitter, Instagram perhaps Snapchat and a website you might make up for it as opposed to just having Facebook, but of course if you had all social media platforms to begin with then, yeah, you're going to get people missing your stuff.
Although maybe this is more of a moral issue by Elon Musk because of how Facebook has been portrayed recently.
I wouldn't worry too much about the social media jobs at Elon Musk's company because they can just focus on the other platforms and maybe even be creative somewhere else and see what else they can do to branch out some more. If any company could do it, it's this one.
It's 100% a moral issue for Musk, which is why this makes sense at all. That and the fact that his status as a celebrity CEO has more social media impact than any corporate team.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:30:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, it's pretty cool of him to be a moral bloke.
If you’re looking for an actual poop related social media platform, i run two. There is Crapchat which is more serious and connection driven; or there is Turds with Friends that is more fun.
Benefits of Crapchat- photos of public restrooms with user ratings. Allows for easy searching of when you have to go out in the wild. Leave comments on your Crapchat “stall” and see who else you know that’s pooped somewhere!
Turds with friends- this one is my baby. Take a photo of your turd before flushing and match it to a poop style to collect badges! There is the big log, archipelago, swamp monster, etc etc. compete with friends to see who can amass the biggest collection with point bonus multipliers for color/size. Actual proctologist on hire to provide some general health information - ie what it means when poop floats vs sinks, blood in stool, etc.
I am not sure what to think and am not sure if this is a ThinkGeek level troll or if I am going to ruin my search history further by looking for poopcentric social media platforms that don't exist.
Poop social media is okay if that is what you are into. I prefer the old school method of interacting in a chatroom. Like the ugly ones from the 90s. Like poo.com
Benefits of Crapchat- photos of public restrooms with user ratings. Allows for easy searching of when you have to go out in the wild. Leave comments on your Crapchat “stall” and see who else you know that’s pooped somewhere!
There's a book for sale in England that list the best public toilets, paid/unpaid for Northern England. Maybe too late for the app?, hostile user base and or the inevitability of death taking your custom.
You say this, and I'm over here wishing CrapChat was actually a thing. I would love to know where the nearest clean bathroom is that I can use, just as a force of habit. It would make travelling so much easier.
I would even totally "Check In" at a stall, and "Check Out" when I'm done. 2 minute stop? Clearly just had to wee. 15 minute stop? That Taco Time did not settle well.
"Now I only bowhunt my own food and have an open door policy at work."
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:59:53 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
"16 years ago I started the world's largest shitposting platform. I promise you Cleveland Analytica did NOT harvest your fecal data to aid Donald Jr in the 2032 election."
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:18:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It already sounds better than Facebook. Are you guys looking for investors, perchance?
Ben Richards is the latest contestant on the wasteland's most popular reality show. Hunted by ruthless angel investors, he's forced to stand up a company named after his flippant comments.
Starring Drederick Tatum as Yaphet Kotto and Mila Kunis as "Linda"
"turd whistle: force your friends to listen to your shit"
It's Facebook + SoundCloud, but users can't post audio bites without listening to friends stuff.
p4lm3r · 2 points · Posted at 19:30:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I heard turd whistles sound like shit.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:08:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
usually social media teams for big companies are pretty sophisticated
depending on the company of course
but there's plenty of work to do with strategy, customer service, coordination of media and message and production of content to where it's definitely not just a quick 20 min. thing lol
I have about a million fb likes between maybe a half dozen accounts I manage. Each one takes about half an hour to manage a day plus a few inbox messages a day. At most this will free up a bit of time for someone every day, I’m sure they have other things to do. No ones getting laid off.
Dude i work in social media for a FTSE 250 company managing all of their accounts by myself across 7 brands, and its a fucking long ass job, people expect top quality copy pushing out every message they need said for every brand daily. And thats not to mention the customer service aspect, if you want to compete you have to be responding to customers 24/7. Imagine never being able to stop working because Janice the vegan needs to know if the pizza comes as a vegan option at 11pm on a Saturday evening. You need 99% response rates and low time response rates because thats what the modern consumer wants, and people expect you to deliver.
There are a lot of factors involved that can change how much work you have to put into an account. Industry, content, platforms, and more can change interaction rates. I’m sure you’re working for a company that markets directly to consumers? Many brands I work with are B2B or work through dealers so complaints and questions are directed elsewhere while we deal more with branding and marketing campaigns.
Sure, but that doesn't discredit me or mean that I'm making stuff up
Content has to come from somewhere—photos, video, written articles etc etc
So your company doesn't do that stuff, okay
But lots of companies do
jas417 · 3 points · Posted at 20:28:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah but they still have a presence on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Tesla’s own sites and blogs etc so the content creation is still there, they just decided to not use one certain channel. Clearly Tesla and Space X are very marketing savvy companies so they still have people taking pictures, making videos and writing articles, if Musk wasn’t even aware of their Facebook presence it must’ve been somewhat of an afterthought. Point is ‘deleting Facebook’ doesn’t mean ‘social media team is suddenly jobless’
hfiggs · 1 points · Posted at 20:54:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think you might be underestimating the time and manpower that a large company like Tesla (30,000 employees) spends on social media. The FB page had millions of followers and I'm sure it took a lot of work to maintain it.
Bollocks. You think there was a team that managed the Facebook page 24/7?
Facebook is an awful platform for marketing anyways.
Cerb88 · 9 points · Posted at 19:59:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My sole job is taking care of the social accounts of a small (by comparison) company of 3000, so there was at least someone working on it 9-5 is my bet.
Well my job includes social media management for one of the biggest conglomerates in the world and if my manager deleted our Facebook it'd free up like maybe an hour of my week. I spend way more time on other types of marketing than I do on a couple of scheduled Facebook posts.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:49:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I dont know of Tesla/Spacex did it, but plenty of companies use facebook like normal customer service and answer every comment they get. You dont think that requires some manpower?
Also most companies that do get a whole load of customer service shit on social will have it filter through into zendesk or the like so that the main customer service team can deal with it. It's rarer to have someone doing social marketing and customer service for a company as large as tesla.
It appears you don't know how comprehension works. You had the hypocrisy to have a go at someone for speculation and then proceeded to do your own speculation while also being completely uninformed of the situation. Don't dish what you can't take.
Nearly 2/7 of the planet actively uses Facebook. Part of marketing is all about getting your company's message in front of as many people as possible, and FB let's you target an audience by age, interest, demographic, etc. I've been doing online marketing for almost a decade and FB ads are by far one of the best ways I've ever seen to reach an interested group of consumers. If you think it's a shitty advertising platform, about $40 billion in advertiser money in 2017 would disagree with you.
Maybe for the top level exec or two. Those poor coordinators and assistants that are working 12 hour days on a shitty salary with the hopes of upward mobility THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE; GOOD LUCK OUT THERE .
I am assuming the US has some equivalent law dealing with mandatory severance? Provinces in Canada have laws governing that. To be fair I should clarify you usually need to work for a company for a certain amount of years to qualify.
Nope! Not in the US. It's pretty much completely voluntary on the part of the employer. In many cases, companies have policies in place based on your seniority level / number of years at the company. And then, if you're unionized, your union will (hopefully) have set up some sort of collective bargaining agreement on the matter.
Other companies might only provide it if it's part of your contract when you first sign up, and that's often only to executive level folks.
Worker bees in many office-oriented industries, on the other hand, are offered pretty much no such guarantees. You get to collect unemployment for a few months, I guess, but that's not a severance package.
Source: Work in entertainment industry, have been laid off multiple times due to departments closing. When I was assistant/coordinator level, I got a big fat goose egg for my trouble. Once I crossed into the junior exec level, I got 2 months worth of paychecks due to it being the company's policy that executives get 1 month pay for every year they'd been at the company when laid off. That same company's assistants/coordinators still got nothing.
There are several other networks out there that you can help spread your company's message. You don't need to keep growing followers. You want more engaged followers. A smaller, more loyal fanbase is better than a bigger one that just likes things every now and then.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:43:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My boss/team actually took this as an exciting opportunity to brainstorm ideas of where we would go if Facebook truly died. It was neat to think about building from the ground up again :)
Btw there is a really good webinar from Social Media Examiner that talks about my previous post (where I got the info from). It's like an hour and a half long. If I can find it I'll PM you. It basically says creating open, transparent relationships with customers and fans of your brand is better than just quantity of fans/views of your message.
To be fair, if your job consists of nothing but maintaing a Facebook page, you're probably too stoned from all the antidepressants to care about the CEO deleting your job.
Any chance he just restructures? He seems like a decent guy/boss. But you can't always be everyone's friend when running a business, especially at that scale.
Gotchya. I think they are gone for sure. But what you said means he wants you to work really hard and often. Doesn't mean he is an unfair/bad boss especially if this is made clear up front.
Well if you make unfair demands and crack down on them then I think that still qualifies you as an unfair boss. It IS a contract both parties agree to beforehand and most younger devs are willing to do it for the prestige of working for him. The resume padding is unbelievable. Doesn't mean it's not unfair though.
I was pointing this out more to address about how he's a decent guy but you can't always be everyone's friend sort of thing. He does not try to be friends with any of his employees. They are cogs in a machine and he lets them know ahead of time. This isnt criticism of him as a person, just stating that the attitude that guy had of him and how he acts with his employees is off.
Except there are other social media platforms that will require content, and they probably will still advertise on FB. So there may not be a page to tend to there is still work.
It’s hard to imagine that a team is needed to make daily posts on social media sites. The PR guy could get his 14 year old sister to post approved content.
So as someone who works in social media/content strategy this is something we talk about a lot. Basically, what would you do if all of a sudden Facebook or Twitter or Soundcloud or [insert platform/app here] suddenly didn't exist? And it's basically to get ourselves to think broadly about the content we're creating instead of thinking about the platforms or channels we're managing. I work at a large university and most people doing social aren't just doing social; they're really just doing content marketing and distribution across a wide range of channels. It's kind of about being "channel agnostic" as buzzwordy and awful as that sounds. Basically it would be hard to delete our jobs because we're not limited to working just on social.
kozinc · 1 points · Posted at 23:10:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People act like the social media game has been decided...ten years after its invention. Nothing is set in stone and the real estate is still developing and up for grabs I'd say.
edit: Social Media existed longer than 10 years ago.
everred · 202 points · Posted at 19:07:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Come check out my MyFace
[deleted] · 85 points · Posted at 19:26:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sadly it is for the foreseeable future. I would leave FB, but very few of my friends and (older) family give a shit about data mining, leftist politics and the other legit criticism leveled at FB.
Most older people I know just assume that some hacker already has all their info and account numbers, but hasn’t found a use for it yet.
If I want to stay in touch with them, it’s Facebook or (god forbid) the old weekly phone call.
Don’t stress too much, once the herd starts moving, they won’t be far behind.
There is a LOT of multi billion dollar companies that people assumed would retain the monopoly in their space, that are bankrupt today. Some bled out slowly, others were destroyed almost overnight.
I agree with this. I think no one has offered me a fantastic alternative to FB, so there definitely could be something new and amazing.
I feel like Twitter, Tumblr, Reddit those types- they have all carved out their own thing. Google+, MySpace, FB, and other smaller ones I can't remember or list... These are all on the same level for me.
I don't want to use MySpace and FB. That's pretty much why I stopped using MySpace. I didn't think there was anything wrong with it. It was just a hassle to keep up with both. On top of that, almost everyone was moving to FB at the time. Then Google+ came out and almost no one went over there. They tried, but it was a flop.
I think something new could explode and destroy FB if it was similar enough to cover any missing features, but unique enough to get people interested.
Although as I'm thinking about it if tumblr added in instant messaging, events, and all my friends/pages/groups moved over to it I think it would be my perfect replacement for FB. I like the marketplace too.
boog3n · 3 points · Posted at 20:05:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
SixDegrees was 21 years ago. LiveJournal was 18 years ago. Friendster was 16 years ago. The core social media game basically has been decided: it’s facebook. It took at least 10 years of trial and error before Zuckerberg came along with the right mix of features, then it took a few more years for them to win. In other words, it took a lot more than 10 years. It only seems like 10 years because Facebook is so dominant now that people think they invented the concept.
That said, you’re right in the sense that nothing is really ever decided on the web. Companies can lose market share really quickly. But there’s a strong network effect with social media that supports the status quo. That’s why most competing networks are addressing some niche market or niche need (like youth, or photo sharing). Facebook started the same way, by focusing on college campuses.
That's a fair point. I'm wondering what the barriers to switching would be. Zuck did "perfect" what we have now but if there was an easy substitute, how quickly would people jump ship? Especially if there was an option to instantly delete your facebook account and all the content on it. I'd at least take a look at it.
boog3n · 1 points · Posted at 02:27:04 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
The biggest barrier to switching is the network effect value of all the existing accounts. Someone could release a product with feature parity tomorrow but it would be useless if my friends and family aren’t on it. I doubt privacy concerns would be enough of a reason for a mass migration. Most people don’t care enough, and there’s no reason to believe that a competitor wouldn’t be just as bad.
I agree. But like (not to fanboy too hard) Elon suggested not just a better rocket, but a rocket that was financially undeniably the better option. That is the same product (rockets) but at such a drastic improvement that the market is recognizing and supporting it. I curious to see how much closer we're getting to the social media version of that. We might still be a ways off but to feel that "this is it" or something...it's so old hat. It's like putting up with radio ads or cable television commercials.
I'm definitely the wrong guy to talk to for ideas but I'm interested to see how the social media crowd (personal and commercial) react to this shake up. What ideas will come out of it, what innovations will we see that continue to scratch the itch of needing to "Connect online" or whatever.
Could be. But I think that, aside from all the annoying things about people that it's made us aware of, it's also a literal invention of something. I don't think we can un-ring that bell. But I do think we're living in the first beta versions of something that will continue to grow along with humanity.
Let’s hope, but after looking around l’ve found nothing like FB for keeping in touch with friends in multiple locations. Is there any platform, besides texts/email/snail-mail, that could replace FB? Something not owned by FB or Google?
Could be waiting to be invented. Who knows. Right now I see frustration with a service/product, an audience willing to listen to alternatives and relatively low overhead for an effective solution. Just my observations.
What the hell are you on about? No one's going to give up Friendster for Myspace just because you can embed music into their webpages and customize the background into anything you want.
I agree. Those are small changes that don't affect anything. What if the real annoying parts of social media could be done away with but keep the parts that work. Is that possible? Who knows. But to think it's not at least worth a conversation is, in my opinion, short sighted.
Including Reddit where they've been quite successful... I wouldn't even be surprised if they were involved in this post, but chances are against it I'll admit.
Scurro · 2 points · Posted at 20:04:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Come over to google+ there are dozens of us. Dozens!
Facebook has existed for twice as long as myspace existed, and no, just because you can visit myspace.com right now doesn't mean it's myspace. It ceased being myspace when JT bought it and nuked everyone's data.
It is firmly entrenched and not going anywhere much to the charging of leftists.
That's right, because you know, jobs are just growing on job trees. Even more so, jobs that are equal to or higher paying than the jobs I'm sure one or two people will lose due to Tesla and Space X no longer being featured on the largest social media platform on earth! It'll be nothing but lilacs and unicorn farts when those people go to get a job running accounts on Tout.
Yeah, imagine being the guy who worked on the Facebook page, developed an audience for it etc. and suddenly one day it's gone no fault of your own, must really suck.
[deleted] · 116 points · Posted at 19:13:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook's recent algorithm change makes it useless for business anyways.
I worked at a social agency for two years and I've gotta wholeheartedly disagree with you here. Without paying money then yes it's useless for business, but it's been that way for quite some time.
It's 100% pay to play, but with a little bit of ad spend (through ads manager, not boosting) its highly effective.
Because you can get CPMs at significantly cheaper rates than traditional advertising so you're reaching more people, the targeting methods are much more precise so you're not wasting money advertising to the wrong person, and with advanced tracking you can actually prove ROI with purchase data instead of just hoping that your advertising is working.
what change? Arent businesses the only reason facebook still exists? none of my friends post on fb anylonger
[deleted] · 52 points · Posted at 20:50:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Last month, Facebook changed the newsfeed algorithm. Here's what it did.
Posts from friends and family are ranked much higher on the news feed. This is an effort to improve the user experience. But this reduces organic impressions and audience growth for business pages.
Posts that generate "meaningful discussion" are well-ranked on the newsfeed.
I work at a marketing agency and most of our client pages have seen a drop in impressions, engagement, etc. We've adjusted to the new algorithm by changing our content and paying Facebook more money to "boost" a post.
lbcbtc · 22 points · Posted at 23:05:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Such an informed post from such an unexpected username
sterob · 1 points · Posted at 04:09:56 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
How do you stay update with news about algorithm? Some change doesn't get mention on the news at all until someone from fb agency tell me, like how they boosted the score for video and gif post and push down static picture post.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 05:45:36 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
We get emails from companies like sendibe.com. We use their tools and services.
Sendible just updated us about a change to Twitter. You can no longer blast the same content to multiple twitters.
ddoeth · 28 points · Posted at 20:15:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Same for me, the only time I ever visit Facebook is when a shop or business doesn't have a proper webpage and then I usually nope out there pretty quickly.
Yeah I can't believe that businesses use that stupid website instead of a real one. It's incredibly annoying and usually really difficult to find useful information about the business, especially if you don't use Facebook
For a lot of small business owners, it's much easier to run a Facebook than it is to hire a web developer or build it themselves. Most already know how to edit and respond via their mobile phone on Facebook, harder to teach someone how to log-into their website and make changes that way.
Yeah, what small business is going to hunt down a developer or agency, stumble back and forth through a crumby spec, pay $6000 for them to build some half-assed Wordpress site, and then wait 6 months to even appear on page 10 of Google
I only keep Facebook around for scheduling Magic the Gathering. All of the stores in my area have their own website and salesfronts, but the only way they really get attendance is Facebook events and posting on state/regional groups.
There are enough recurring events that the content has to come to the customers rather than the other way around.
Local business has a Facebook page and a website. Both have different business hours and addresses. Neither of the addresses are correct, verified by me driving to each. I messaged the guy, got the correct address, showed up at the store at 11:30am (posted signage said they opened at 11) and it was closed.
honestly almost half the stuff on my feed now is local businesses advertising jobs, the local government (town / township / fire fighters / etc) post something, or something about local sports stuff.
It is actually stuff I want to see and share though. Which is probably why it is half, because I've taken everyone else off of my feed. I would never visit all those companies / organizations websites, if any of them but I get all this info in one place that is convenient.
ddoeth · 2 points · Posted at 21:54:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't use Facebook anymore and I never really have, there are just better ways to communicate with my friends than that
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 20:34:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fb posting is still a very big thing, just clearly not among your friends lol
U-Ei · 2 points · Posted at 19:49:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why, what happened?
DemIce · 8 points · Posted at 21:04:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Your 'front page', as it were, on facebook now has more posts from friends and family, and less from businesses. That hurts businesses, because that was one nice form of spam that they relied on to build their audience. Now they have to rely more on people actually talking about them/their product and going out of their way to like/subscribe/whatever to their page(s).
U-Ei · 3 points · Posted at 23:46:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thanks.
Not that I really care what happens on FB anymore, no matter what they do. I go where the content I like is, and that is much easier to find on reddit and the like. Also, browsing FB without the App is a pain in the ass (it opens the messenger app in the Play Store everytime you forget you can't check your messages when browsing mobile). Just go fuck yourself Facebook!
At least it’s one app. On iOS there is a separate app for FB Messenger. If you don’t have it, it directs you to the app store. There’s even a button in the toolbar for inbox and it will open the other app instead.
U-Ei · 2 points · Posted at 04:32:42 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
No that's exactly how it works on Android as well.
Don't think there every really was one. If Elon didn't know there was a FB page for them and since they don't do advertising, why have a social media team to begin with? It was probably put together by a few people that have a different job there at SpaceX and Tesla and kept under wraps from the higher ups. I would also imagine whomever actually created/ran the page is getting a big slap on the wrist today.
Social Media is an entire discipline. Posting on Facebook is like a tiny part of it, and traffic from other channels may well convert higher for them, depending on what their objectives are in the space. I'm sort of surprised people don't find that more apparent, considering how many inbound notifications all of these channels provide to remind us of their existence and relevance.
If my brief time working with a social media team translates to other businesses, it was probably one massively overworked person doing it and they're quite happy right now to have more time for other stuff.
Welcome to the world, Tesla’s new social media platform
Xanius · 1 points · Posted at 20:01:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
With the new profile pages coming there'll be an official Tesla and spacex and solar city account with a profile and chat team. No worries for the social media team needed.
RIP any social media team. A marketing job is not stable if it ties itself exclusively to a tech, a platform or a medium. MarCom manager who uses Social Media when its strategic is what you want to be.
[Channel] team dies as soon as leaders want ROI figures the channel can't deliver. Or it politics its way into prolonged life. Both bad outcomes.
There’s still plenty of work for them. Honestly getting rid of Facebook probably makes them more efficient since they are no longer getting trolls and answering stupid ass questions from Facebook users. It’s like the yahoo answers of social media.
The people responsible for their social media accounts are probably part of a larger marketing team with an astronomical amount of work to keep them all busy.
They probably don't have a "social media team". It's probably just one of the responsibilities that several of their product marketing managers or comms people share.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:31:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I can't imagine they had a whole team just for FB posts. It would have been rolled in to a larger job or sourced to an agency. They still need PR work, just not through that medium. If they did have a team then he just saved the company some money.
If you had any idea what running a social media campaign entails these days you’d know having a Facebook page is a very small part of that. Not to mention that they are exactly the types of company to think outside of that spectrum.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:30:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're being kind of an asshole. Essentially made a joke, expecting people to know it is a joke...then come back and insult me for using specific phrases and terms? For someone who is in charge of social, you have the graces of a neanderthal.
It's fucking horrible. The worst part, is if you look on her tablet you can see that the quirky, tomboy girl's name is Scout. SCOUT!! Talk about ham fisted 🙄
I was going to buy a new Mac book a month ago. A friend showed me that commercial. I now flat out refuse to buy one. Looking at other options. We need to take a stand against shitty commercials.
cryo · -24 points · Posted at 22:09:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You do that. I think it’s a pretty good commercial.
The premise is supposed to be that we’ve transcended the need for a traditional “desktop with monitor” or even “laptop with keyboard” as a means to engage with the world of technology; now that portables are rapidly taking over, the definition of a “computer” is meant to have less meaning compared to all the other mechanisms by which data can be accessed. Idea is supposed to be that the iPad falls into this category of “transcendental” devices (and that you should buy one).
But yeah, even as a SERIOUSLY long-term Apple fan, I’m happy to say that’s a godawful ham-fisted advertisement.
Edit: well fuck me for explaining it, I guess.
Edit2: this was post-work me getting incensed about an immediate downvote on what I thought was a helpful post. It was hasty and childish.
Ha! I appreciate the effort. But to me it just makes her seem like a moron. She's supposed to be this smarty pants but doesn't even know what a computer is. Unless she's just being condescending.
Exactly the problem with it. They could’ve conveyed the child-like sense of wonder and amazement over figuring out that “there used to be these archaic, desk-bound devices we had to use to communicate and learn” more effectively if she didn’t look like she should reasonably know what a computer was just from ordinary life experience.
I think the problem is people are putting themselves into the commercial. We all grew up with computers, how could someone NOT know what a computer is?
I have a nephew in third grade who has never used a desktop or laptop computer. Instead of buying books, they put all the textbooks on iPads and their homework is stored on their iPads as well. Their homework is graded on the iPad before they go to bed.
The school was also able to toss out the computers since every student has an iPad. I’m sure the administrators have computers, but when he saw my desktop computer, he said, “WHOA! What’s that?”.
even if their comment misses the purpose of both the forum and the topic, doesn't contribute, and essentially clutters any meaningful discussion from happening?
oh well, enjoy your pun threads and sequel memes, advice animals, and unfounded obbservations in place of topical discussion relevant to your interests rather than a marketing campaigns
“What’s a computer?” Retrieves live rabbit to begin blood ritual at the Apple altar. “Ok Timmy, no WWDC for you this year and you get 10 minutes of iPad time per day.”
Double standards? What's a computer is stupid because it's not a branded tool you can really hate. Why would anyone hate computers while they're on Reddit? Like, what should our negative feelings towards computers be? If you don't like Intel, you can still make a computer without using anything Intel related. Hell even Apple makes computers.
The Facebook comment is obviously just taking a dig at Facebook. Not because Musk doesn't know what Facebook is, it's just obviously taking the piss.
I didn’t even realize Facebook owned both WhatsApp and Instagram. It will be hard to disentangle from Facebook if one wants to maintain any type of social media presence.
Exactly why Facebook made those purchases. They have realized that millennials don’t care about their main platform, so they diversified.
Foepys · 1792 points · Posted at 19:07:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They have realized that millennials don’t care about their main platform
Millennials do care. It's GenZ that doesn't care. Sometimes reddit forgets that millennials are now old enough to have kids in middle or even high school.
And then we realize that Facebook was initially unsubscribable without a valid college email address.
tekym · 260 points · Posted at 19:39:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I member when (i.e., I signed up when) you could only sign up with a valid .edu email address from a school that FB had specifically set up a network for.
I didn't get a fb account until finally like 6 years ago because of that. For the longest time my mentality was "fuck those elitist assholes". I guess if you once considered facebook for elitist assholes, then you're pretty old these days.
I remember when my older brother was looking at colleges, one of them that he was interested in Texas used the fact that they had access to Facebook as a benefit. How times have changed eh?
I too was one of the ancient ones. I remember I did dual credit in high school and had a Facebook before my circle of friends. I was... The cat's meow. 😺
Bayho · 1 points · Posted at 01:43:42 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yea I was so stoked when before it went to anyone I did a program at Notre Dame and we got nd.edu email addresses so we all signed up for facebook a year or so early
Instagram is owned by Facebook. I originally lost interest in Facebook after it stopped giving chronological feed updates. FB knows they can keep people addicted for longer if they meter your information, feeding it to you slowly and pseudorandomly so you're never completely caught up on your news, there's always a reason to refresh that feed. It's really manipulative and now that IG is doing it too (no doubt at FB's request) I see no reason to use IG either.
The timeline thing really sucks. That and never seeing all your friends updates. That made me turn FB off and I use IG solely. That's going down the same route though which is really sad.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:16:13 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is there an option that isn't just pictures? I hate other people's pictures, but I use FB to stay in touch with an international friend.
You go to the IG subreddit and it's all people complaining about how it has turned to Facebook and looking for an alternative. Only a matter of time for Instagram, in my opinion. Facebook tends to ruin a good, simple thing.
Flymia · 2 points · Posted at 00:29:03 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You know you can make your timeline go to most recent in FB right?
I really want to ditch instagram but as a chef it's one or the best says to see what other chefs are creating and marketing. It's a shame
[deleted] · 137 points · Posted at 19:29:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My sister is 14 and doesn't use Facebook at all either, I don't get it tbf Instagram is just photos and stuff, I can only go on it for 10 minutes at a time
It's honestly a nice way to be able to keep up with people I actually care about without getting sucked into the social media black hole. Like you said, after about ten minutes I start getting bored and go do productive stuff instead (i.e. switch over to Facebook and scroll for 2 hours haha)
Do you not use facebook to keep up with people you actually care about? Instagram is literally just people trying to look sexy/pretty or show off for a camera and it's very shallow. Facebook is where I have open forum discussions with my friends and share the occasional joke. If you have people you don't care about on Facebook I think you're using it wrong.
rds_rds · 31 points · Posted at 19:42:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My Instagram is literally just motorcycles/cars/bicycles trying to look sexy/pretty or show off for a camera. It's awesome.
There is only one way to use Facebook and you're just doing it wrong.
I could just as easily say if the only people you follow on Instagram are shallow showoffs trying to prove how pretty they are, then you're using Instagram wrong. Then again that would be kind of silly.
I wouldn't be against the idea that I'm using it wrong because I haven't used it much. I never said there's one way to use Facebook, only that the very reason of your complaint is apparently due to the way you choose to use it.
My biggest complaint is the same people re-hashing the same content ever day. I will say, its a fair argument that I'm connected with the wrong people, but I also don't have the patience to go unfollow ~75% of my friends to get my feed back to something bearable. That part is on me, and I'll fully admit it.
Having said that, I would still argue that the platform itself contributes to the amount of low quality garbage that comes across my feed. People can still definitely post garbage on Instagram but being limited to posting pictures as opposed to being openly encouraged to broadcast every single thought you've ever had directly leads to it being less of a circlejerk, imo.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 21:01:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hey yall, lets fight more about social fucking media...
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 21:35:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why are you so argumentative?
morawn · 1 points · Posted at 21:17:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No one is fighting, wtf?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:04:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You wanna fight about it?
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 22:11:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The thing about it is though that Instagram is what Facebook used to be, back when I joined in 2005 or so. It used to be nothing but status updates and people's pictures and nothing else. I started college in 2005 and remember getting my Facebook with my .edu address and adding friends left and right that I would meet at parties the night before. The morning after a party, I would go on Facebook and look at the pictures from the party or saw what other people were up to in the area. It was legitimately used to keep up with people and see what they did that week, day, or night. Now, Facebook is a bunch of stuff that gives me updates on people's thoughts, feelings, and views which I don't ever recall asking them about, for the extremely vast majority. I have all of these friends that are acquaintances from college who now populate my wall with youtube videos, memes, articles, and a bunch of other stuff that I don't care even a fraction as much about it as they do.
I have an Insta and while I don't use it very much, it's way more what Facebook used to be. Pictures and their comments that let me know what's new with people. The problem is though, as a 30 yearold, I am far removed from college now and don't have an interest in adding all of the acquaintances from college, which means that my Instagram followers/following lists are super small compared to Facebook; this means I don't use Facebook too much because it's "crowded" with stuff I don't care about and I don't use Instagram much either because I don't have as many people on it as Facebook.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 21:37:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah I remember back in around 2008/09 when I first got it, it was just to keep up with people now it's just videos and news and just general shite
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:59:08 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Now Facebook has the "Memories" and now I'm seeing random posts from 4 years ago from people.
We have a few group chats that are set to private so me and the brocean can talk shit and plan events with out the other half’s knowing what we’re up to
It seems everything is getting more visual as time moves on. Between faster networks and stronger processors on mobile phones it is pretty much child's play to send rich media. Since that allows for more eye candy and its resulting clicks and eyeballs that can be sold to advertisers. So we are here at IG.
I'm not overly fond of it, being a cold fool from the old school before AOL was a thing and a reading kid that grew most of the way up without a TV. I find myself thinking "They asked if they could do it, but never thought to ask if they should do it." and feeling like I should go out and yell at someone to get off my lawn! :o)
That's an interesting point- I never even thought that Reddit was text-based and completely at odds with 99% of other social media. (Does Reddit even qualify as 'social' media given that it's users can remain 100% anonymous?)
It's only pictures taken from the mobile app... So it really makes spreading chain posts of political shit hard.
Finally accepting Instagram and using it was a rather large positive decision for myself. I've actively made many connections in communities I care about.
Trying to use Instagram to sell some of my photography, and I hate it. I never had an Instagram before this. It does get my website views, but... ugh. It definitely falls under the category of "work." But it's a free platform, so I can't complain. Except for the whole data breach thing.
1980 or 1982 are generally the cutoffs for millennials (the term was used to refer to people who would become adults in the 2000s), so it's reasonable for a 37 year old to be considered a millennial (although just barely).
Honestly, I'm not even sure why I made that comment. Just saying something to say something, I guess.
I just remember 1985 because the last time I read anything about Millennials, I remember that year being quoted, because I remember thinking my brother-in-law and I are different generations.
But personally, I agree that the line between generations is always fuzzy, and anyone born in most of the 80s could qualify for either.
Maybe a good metric would be, what did you watch as a kid: Speed Racer or Dragonball Z? Josie and the Pussycats or the Powerpuff Girls? Looney Tunes or Spongebob?
22 here and graduated college a year ago. Out of the hundreds of people I met in University only 3 actually used Facebook. Pretty much everyone had one but nobody actually logged in anymore.
It's all Instagram and Snapchat, really.
PDXbot · 1 points · Posted at 21:55:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
According to teens(males and females, 13-18) in my family, those sites are for selling teen porn.
I'm 23, I don't even know what I am anymore. I was (apparently) born too late to be a 90's kid, always assumed (and was told) I was a millennial, now I'm being told that millennials are older than me and GenZ are the ones that care about the things I care about.
All about the razer motrolla things, those sleek flips that looked (at the time) awesome.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:08:10 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oooh fancy. I grew up with one of those Nokia bricks with an extendable antenna. And I'm a millennial. THAT'S how quick this crap has changed in the last 15 years.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:56:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
that's how old I was when I got mine and it was a krzr. I guess it also depends on how much money your parents had or how much they wanted to spend on a phone for their kid or what phones were available through your local providers at the time, etc. so that's probably not, like, the pillar of being a millennial haha
But 9/11, the original PSX, and the horrors of AOL are spread out by like 7 or 8 years.
Mercy_X · 11 points · Posted at 23:33:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thats why i think it is just by how you remember the internet growing up. No internet? gen x. Shitty dial-up? Millenial. Wi-fi? gen z
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:29:19 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I recognize that I am an exception to this because I lived in the middle of nowhere, dirt road. We had dial up until it was no longer available and then we paid out the ass for satellite. We didn't have dsl installed until like 2011 ish, I think I was like 13, and it was 1.5 Mbps because fuck you CenturyLink. The satellite and dsl were both like 70-80/month too
I was born in 96, do not remember 9/11 and the internet raised me after age 11. Got a flip phone at 11, android smartphone(a 50 dollar prepaid one) at 13. I guess I was among the first of genz.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 22:09:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I remember the day it happened, I don't remember much else about it though. My classmates (some of which are younger than me) talk about how vividly they remember staying home and seeing it on the news. I remember hearing something about it on the radio on the way to school and that's about it.
But my parents completely hid the fact that 9/11 even happened from me... Though I'm sure I would have been old enough to remember if I had been told. WHAT DOES THAT MAKE ME
I was too young to learn about the big scary world, according to them. They even got my siblings and friends parents and such to agree on not telling me about it.
LanikM · 1 points · Posted at 09:14:59 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You comment reads like you're unsure how old you were when 9/11 happened.
The article talks about how it was assumed to be 1999 before but researchers started noticing behavior shifts of those born around 1995. The differentiator being those born after 1995 likely grew up with smart phones.
While there isn't an agreed upon range of years for the Millennial generation (unlike Boomers, which is more or less set in stone at 1946-1964), most measures put the end of the Millennial generation in the late 90s. Since you're 23, you were born in 1994 or 1995, which would make you a Millennial. Being a "90s kid" or an "80s kid" is related to which generation you are from, but it doesn't decide it. It's detached since people from different generations can come of age in the same decade.
As a 20 year old I'm in a similar boat, I've always identified more with the Millennial label because I'm close to that, I don't understand the Gen X or Gen Z thing though!
It’s right on that cusp. I’m 21 and I remember 9/11 clear as day. Didn’t fully understand it at the time of course, but even then I knew I was watching history unfold
arivas · 8 points · Posted at 21:05:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How the hell do you remember 9/11 when you were 4? I was 10 and I barley remember it.
I was 5. I remember it being all over the news, the look of shock on my parents faces, and the juvenile hope that an catastrophe this big meant I didn’t have to go to school. I still had to go to school. My incredulousness at not being able to skip is what probably made it stick with me.
I was the same age when the wall came down and remember it pretty clearly. I think the memory hook was more the adults reaction than me understanding what was going on.
I'm 20 and I remember 9/11, I'm not even from the US. It was my very first day at school and I remember going home and seeing some buildings on fire on the TV.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:25:34 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It was my very first day at school
Are you trying to tell us that you went to school at the age of 3½?
Gen X is the generation between the Boomers and Millennials. Before the Millennials got that name they were sometimes referred to as Gen Y as a play on Gen X. Gen Z is in the same vein. They might one day have a different name, I've heard suggestions such as Digital Natives, but who knows? Gen Z seems pretty popular. The youngest babies being born right now are on the cusp of Gen Z and Gen Alpha, but honestly we can't really know where that distinction will be drawn yet either.
You're on the borderline between millennial and what they're calling gen z because no one has come up with a good name yet.
God help us when we move onto the next one and there isn't even a consensus letter to use to refer to that generation. It's going to be madness.
ape94 · 1 points · Posted at 00:01:25 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Gen Edge/Gen Edgers. Or so I was told by a speaker at a work conference a few weeks ago who spent 3.5 hours explaining all the various generations and what makes them tick.
The Millennial gen stop at 95. So you're the technically the un/fortunate last few before the queue got cut off and the rest got classified to some other group
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:15:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you're near the threshold between generations then you can pretty much just choose to be either depending on which one you identify with more at any given time.
Ive always stuck with millennial are born '85-99 and gen Z is 2000+ if youre close to the line then its going to be weird as someone born in 85 is quite different from someone born in 99. I think it works as a grade school range.
You're like me - the last of your generation with more in common with the next generation. I was born in 78 so I'm GenX, but have a lot more in common with millennials.
That's how my parents are. They're culturally closer to being Gen X'ers but according to things like Wikipedia, they're at the tail end of being Baby Boomers...
You're a late Millenial IMO, just like I'm a late Xer (1978).
"90s kid" or "00s kid" is a little fuzzier. It's hard enough to define the boundaries of a generation, defining something similar for a single decade produces a lot more overlap.
I wouldn't call you a 90s kid because you were still in kindergarten at the end of the 90s.
I can be called a 90s kid, I was in middle and high school for the majority of the decade. I came of age in that decade.
But I'm also sort of an 80s kid too, because I spent most of the 80s in elementary school. I can clearly remember 1981, and I remember living through some of the touchstone events of the decade.
Or another way of looking at it: I have an aunt who was born in the mid 1960s. I remember her being in college. I also have two cousins who were born in the late 1960s. I have more shared cultural experiences with them than I do with my aunt, despite the difference in their ages being only a few years, and having seen more of her than I did of them. These divisions aren't just a simple matter of a number.
It was interesting though, the time when someone in another thread here insisted I was a Millenial and that I don't get to choose, when I have more in common with my fellow Xers.
Same thing happens to every generation. The truth is that it takes a retrospective to properly assess generations. (Born in the mid 80s) I remember first being told I was Generation X. Then I was told, no you're generation y. Now I hear people saying I'm a very early Millenial. I'm not even sure if Gen Y exists anymore, there can't be that many generations between 1985 and now. I'm still confused.
Allow me to make it easy for you. If you were not an adult on 9/11/01, you are a millennial. There is some give or take there, but that covers almost everyone.
27 here, you tag your friends and companies with their products and be really hot or a cat. Also stories and live stream your smoke sesh, if you're a hot girl that is
My younger brother and his friends seem to favor Snapchat. I'm not that old, but I'm too old for that shit.
[deleted] · 14 points · Posted at 19:23:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To old people, anyone that is smart knows how to use computers is a Millennial. GenZ knows how to use tablets, which is enough to look tech-savvy to old people.
Millienials were born from like 85 -95 yeah if you had a kid at 16 in 2001 I am sure that kid is going off to college. I was 17 when I graduated from high school. Makes sense.
I only take issue with it because it became a pejorative for an entire generation, to a degree I haven't seen with boomers or gen X.
Everything became millenials are killing this, and here's how to talk to millenials that, like we're some debased group of antisocial anarchists under observation.
Everyone wanted to discuss millenials, without them being a apart of the conversation themselves.
Assume the person was born in say... 1985, well with the millennial range. If they had a kid when they were 18, in 2003, that kid would now be 15. So someone born right at the beginning of the millennial range who had a kid young could conceivably be sending that kid to uni this year without skipping any grades at all
Gen X pretty much always stops at 1980 and most articles that discuss millennials start around 1985, so the whole 1981-1985 years are just in case nebulous hole of existence.
I think the issue with your article is what I touched on in my comment. Most articles seem to start their millennial data around 1985 and the Gen-X data ends around 1980.
So if you're talking about Millennials and your data doesn't start until 1985, then either you're not actually talking about millennials or the people between Gen-X and millennials are a cusp generation.
No. It wasn't. The point was not that someone in 1985 would have a kid in college, although I suppose they could. The point was that someone who is beyond question within the millennial range could have a kid of approximately college age. If you'll excuse the minor typo of "with" vs. "within" you can easily see the point I am making. Sorry if I was not clear enough for you
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:32:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
if your kid is 15 years old, and hasnt skipped any grades, they should not be in college.
I'm not sure what you are missing here. My example, if you think about it even a little, makes very clear that there are at least three ways a millennial could have a kid in college:
1) The millennial could be born further towards the early limit of the generation.
2) The millennial could have had a kid before they themselves we're 18.
3) The kid could have skipped a grade or two. Significantly less than the 8 the person I originally replied to flippantly suggested.
I think the opposite is true. Most old people I've met saying "damn millennials!" all the time seem to be regarding anyone younger than 40 as a millennial.
If i had a kid when I was 20, they'd already have graduated from HS (or would have this year).
Am Millenial.
C2D2 · 5 points · Posted at 19:30:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Damn. This stings a bit. But I concur. Father to a millennial and a gen-Zer. Millennial lives by social media, gen Z son doesn't give half a shit about it.
Im 21 and I've always been told I'm a millennial but ive seen conflicting opinions on where millennial ends and gen z starts recently. Nobody I know uses Facebook for much besides birthday reminders and keeping family up to date occasionally for graduations and things like that. Insta Snapchat and Twitter are way more popular.
Millenials and Gen Xers care less about facebook with each passing year. It's grandma that still uses Facebook. I see less actual engagement on facebook every day.
I think millenials and generation z are stupid terms and often confused. Doesn't help that the definitions for them can't even state clearly what they are.
I'm 30 and don't give a shit about Facebook. I created an account when it was still only available to college students, and used it pretty regularly for a few years, but I didn't like many of the changes. I still have an account, but very rarely use it, and will probably delete it soon.
Eh, what really gave Facebook the power was gen x and baby boomers adopting it. They’re old and they won’t change easily, if at all. I’m a millennial (28) and lots of my friends started leaving in droves a few years ago when they shit all over the news feed and forced ads and bullshit clips people think are “funny” down our throats. That being said, these young kids don’t even remember that Facebook was the elite social media experience just a few years ago. Facebook started out making profits, and sold what little soul they had to increase them year after year.
Are there any stats on this? I'd find it interesting. I think you're right that Gen Z hates FB. Millenials care more than GenZ does, but it doesn't seem like they care much except for Messenger. FB is like old person central now.
A lot of Millennials seem to have relegated FB to major announcements. Maybe career stuff, but mostly relationship things - getting engaged, married, having a kid, etc.
It is still useful for things like that where you want to make a big announcement to all of your friends at once. But the Baby Boomers and Gen Xers are the only ones I see still posting mundane, everyday crap on FB.
This is a good point. A lot of people, maybe even most, still think of that cohort as maybe just graduating from college. Some of the first millennials are entering their 40s.
I'm 26 and haven't had facebook for almost two years now. In my case though it kept recommending that I friend my ex-girlfriend and the dudes she tried to "sell" me to. Like, no thank you. O-o
Now the only people I hear talking about using facebook are my grandparents oddly enough. My grandmother's third husband is all about that shit.
Millenials range from 1980-2000 which means a lot of millenials are still below 25 (including me) and instagram became big when i was in my late teens.
My generation def doesnt need facebook. Nearly none of my friends use it actively, unlike insta.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:26:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sometimes it baffles me how much reddit users live within the confines of this website's own circle jerks. If you think either millennials or gen z aren't using Facebook you're completely clueless. No, some of them aren't using it as heavily as other apps like Snapchat and Instagram (although a huge chunk do), but they still have profiles that they check and update fairly regularly.
I was actually reading an article the other day about how the military now needs to focus on Gen Z because there are millennials who now have their 20 years. That specific article cited 1996 as the last year that millennials were born.
I never got into Instagram. It’s just pictures of other people doing fun things. I do like WhatsApp though because it lets me talk with my friends out of the US. Social media is our new way of life, we just need less douchy people in charge of it.
I like Instagram because it's just pictures. I don't have to read friends opinions and stupid shit they share. I can see what my friends and select celebrities have been up to without having it get political or seeing dumb memes that just aren't funny and shit. I also skateboard so like if you aren't on Instagram if you skate you're missing a lot happening.
jhguth · 9 points · Posted at 19:58:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I would use instagram if the photos were in chronological order like they used to be
dbr1se · 2 points · Posted at 21:21:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The algorithm deciding your feed is what originally fucked up Facebook. To actually see what your friends were up to you'd have to go to their pages individually. It's only gotten worse since. Instagram's feed will face the same shit.
Yeah but I can not follow those and never have to deal with it. I don't follow those on Facebook but I have friends who can share stuff and I then see. I can choose to not see these friends posts but some of them are some what good friends and it just becomes terrible.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 22:44:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you implying none of that garbage is on Instagram?
No it's there, it's just easier to filter it. My friends don't make posts of their own about politics, they share stuff from other pages. So following my friends on Instagram I never see it where as Facebook I will. I can go all day on my Instagram without seeing a single thing about politics. I just looked at my Facebook feed now, and saw 3 political posts within the first 15 posts. And right now in the country I live in politics are at an all time annoying, our prime minister is getting ripped on for doing stuff every prime minister does. Our PM is far from perfect but people are flipping out that he talks politically correct and is making the government use politically correct language. I see daily memes cause he dressed up in Indian wear while in India calling him Mr Dressup, shit that doesn't even have to do with politics and they're all saying he's the worst PM of all time. Sorry for ranting but yeah I can't look at Facebook without seeing it, it's quite annoying. Instagram I see pictures of my friends doing stuff or going places, or I see skateboard tricks, it's a much better place.
“I don’t have to read friends opinions”
“Seeing memes that just aren’t funny and shit”
See, those aren’t actually friends.
Real friends are involved in each other’s lives.
They laugh at each other’s jokes because they share interests.
They care about what each other think because they share emotional bonds.
They care about each other’s politics because politics actually has an impact on your life whether you believe it to or not.
They talk about each other’s victories and support each other through failures and hard times.
What you have are acquaintances. People you barely know and barely care about and hope to maybe get a little validation out of.
This is the curse of social media. I’m not gonna go all old-fogey and maunder on about how you can’t have proper friends over online spaces, because that’s just bullshit. But Facebook, twitter, and the like have all changed the face of what the word ‘friend’ even means, until we have a whole generation that is obsessed with triviality.
Everything you mentioned is stuff you do with friends in real life. I'm not scrolling through Facebook or Instagram to make bonds and share opinions on matters. That's shit I do everyday in real life outside of social media. I go on social media to more or less just see what people I don't keep in close contact have been up to (or just see what's going on in the skating world). You're completely right in saying they're just acquaintances, it's just easier to type friends cause they're all still people I'd stop and talk to if I saw them around. I just don't see the point in knowing all their opinions on stuff that just doesn't effect my life.
Just a fair warning, you may hate seeing political posts, but politics are part of your life and impact it every day. Feel free to avoid it socially, but people need to stop using “political” as a pejorative. You can effect it and makes positive difference.
No I follow politics fairly closely, within my own country at the very least and follow big news globally. When I'm using social media, I just want to see what my friends or skateboarders I like are up to. I lived in a town with tons of Oil Sites around and have more than a few friends with very ignorant conservative views who share stuff based on headlines or share memes that are straight up propaganda. Looking at my Facebook feed somedays is just toxic. Our Prime Minister made a joke and it got taken out of context and a 20 second out of context clip and memes about it cluttered my news feed with captions "this guys a joke." None of them thought to get the full context, also while this was going on a bill was passed to take away more of our privacy and not an eye was batted. I understand the need to keep up on politics just Facebook is a cess pool when it comes to political opinions.
Atreiyu · -1 points · Posted at 20:16:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Isn't that just purposely staying ignorant though?
If your friend is a flat earther, or he hates X people, or he believes in a cult - it doesn't matter because you don't like seeing that?
If their a close enough friend I would know that without seeing their social media. If their not a close enough friend to know that then it doesn't really concern me.
Instagram is a huge marketing tool for online Businesses
warb17 · 2 points · Posted at 19:41:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Obviously you’d need to get your friends to use it too, but I recommend Signal over WhatsApp. Primarily because Signal is encrypted and not owned by Facebook.
It's pretty great if you have any hobbies. I make cryptic boring compositions of random stuff I notice then give it a pretentious title. Instagram give me a place to put that stuff as well as keep track of all the comedians and painters and sculptors and what have you that I follow.
It's a very low investment way to pass some time and put stuff out into the world.
Instagram has started to copy snapchat after they do anything. So it's a photo platform and they have all those AR filters and "stories". At least I think so I don't use it either.
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 19:12:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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jrjr12 · 5 points · Posted at 19:16:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
nope. just like every change, people complained for a day and now nobody gives a shit
Honestly since the new update came out, I almost never look at the menu that shows all the official stories. Kinda consolidated it into less menus for me, so I can dig it.
Tbf Snapchat is ass. Until this week it was their plummeting stock value making headlines. Not because they sold data to anyone (though they could/probably are) but simply because their interface is total ass.
I don't know if I would call it a new way of life, I am 35, never had a facebook, I dont know what instagram is and I used twitter for like a week. I think I am getting along just fine.
If you don't mind running the risk of the Chinese government accessing your chat logs you should try WeChat: it's basically the WhatsApp of China, with less douchy people in charge.
I use Facebook login for so many apps and services I'd be unable to access half my accounts if I deleted my Facebook, but Spotify is the #1 thing keeping me from doing it. I might be able to copy my current playlists but my starred/added songs that go back 6 or 7 years would all be gone or I'd have to copy thousands of songs one-by-one. They got me.
Twitter did that to Vine. Guessing they could not figure out how to monetize it either or could not figure out how to both tie it into Twitter and let it stand alone. But then they also stomped out any adult content on the platform, in response to Apple, I believe.
Haha, but for real, young people are turning more and more away from facebook. I know plenty of people without one, but they all still have instagram, and until the newest update mostly snapchat.
I'm well aware of observer bias, and if you'd read up on these things, you'd find that facebook has more user visits per month, but that younger people are switching over to instagram and other apps like snapchat (again before the new update). It's not just what i observe, ( i dont even use instagram for example). It's the trend that been happening fir some time now, and especially since the Cambridge Anylitica news.
I love people like you. You just start arguments, completely unaware of the very real possibility that you may not know as much as you think you do. After, rather than do the five seconds of googling required, you demand sources without providing any of your own.
Just as I thought, you read the headline and not the actual statistics. 3.4% fewer people joining than previously is what it says. You simply aren't interpreting those numbers correctly.
The way they present the numbers it SEEMS like 22.% percent increase in instagram or snapchat is significant, but compared to the traffic facebook gets, it's still nothing.
You really have to learn the units and numbers they are dealing with before you come at me with some bullshit argument that you are neither educated about or prepared for.
Conclusion? they aren't leaving facebook, the growth has just stagnated (as is to b expected when you control basically the entire market), and people are simply ALSO using those other services. Take a fucking epidemiology course and read a fucking statistics book.
Just as I thought, you read the headline and not the actual statistics.
Wrong. Also, if you'd bothered to read even just the headline, you'd see it right there..
Facebook may have a grown-up problem: Young people *leaving** for Instagram and Snapchat*
Yea.. anyway,
3.4% fewer people joining than previously is what it says. You simply aren't interpreting those numbers correctly.
Wrong again, and honestly, if you aren't trolling, and you did in fact read both or even just one of the articles i linked, then your reading comprehension is atrocious, and you probably shouldn't be starting arguments with people. sorry for the tangent, back to the point.
3.4% fewer people joining than previously is what it says. You simply aren't interpreting those numbers correctly.
From the First Article
Wrong.
14.5 million people ages 12 to 17 will use Facebook in 2017, a decline of 3.4% from the previous year, as they migrate to Snap's Snapchat and Facebook's Instagram.
So, in 2017 14.5 million people will use Facebook. This is a decline of 3.4%, which means 507,500 less young people will be on Facebook.
In fact, it does mention what you spoke of,
Monthly Facebook usage among those under 12 and ages 18 to 24 will grow more slowly than previously forecast, too
However, this is in addition to it also verifying my original point, which was
but for real, young people are turning more and more away from Facebook.
Literally from the first article
The forecast suggests young people are turning away from the world's most populous social network
Also,
Instead, he says, they are migrating to Snapchat and Instagram.
Here's another for you, and ill help break this one down for you,
Snapchat usage is expected to increase this year, with the U.S. user base to grow 5.8% to 79.2 million monthly.
Ok, so all users, but were looking at young people, right? It goes on to say,
with the biggest jump in young adults, ages 18 to 24 increasing nearly 20%.
So, how about Instagram then?
Similarly, monthly Instagram usage in the U.S. will grow 23.8% in 2017 to 85.5 million.
Again, ok, but this is all people, so again if we read on,
Within that figure, Instagram will expand its user base among those under 12 years old by 19% and those ages 12 to 17 by 8.8%.
Alright, so there's Instagram, and now to revisit what was said about Facebook
14.5 million people ages 12 to 17 will use Facebook in 2017, a decline of 3.4% from the previous year
So then, both Snapchat, and Instagram, will see increases in users among young people, whereas Facebook will see a decline. Less people using Facebook, more using Insta and Snap. Just as it says word for word in the article
young people are turning away from the world's most populous social network
So there it is, the important bit. Now is where i tell you that its laughable that you say
You really have to learn the units and numbers they are dealing with before you come at me with some bullshit argument that you are neither educated about or prepared for.
All while lacking any of your own sources, prepared with absolutely no arguments what so ever, and reading comprehension that is comparable to that of a bananas.
Conclusion? they ARE leaving facebook, i suggest you grab a tutor, get yourself a library card, and then rent out all the books you can on reading comprehension, epidemiology, statistics, and natural burn remedies.
It's so funny, You completely misinterpreted very statistic. Even after having it explained to you.Go take and fail a statistics course, then get back to me.
This is like talking to a fucking 15 year old. You really aren't nearly on the same level and think you can hold a convo.
Lol. Exactly like i said before, and completely expected, no argument, no sources, just a salty idiot who lacks the ability to read properly. It's so funny, you didn't "explain" anything, instead you had an entire article spoonfed to you, and then completely failed at any sort of retort or logical comeback. Have a good one bud.😘
You're both right in a way. millennials really don't have huge engagement on Facebook. But it is also the gold standard that almost everyone has because you use it to make profiles on apps to getting discounts at places for checking in.
Edit: Downvote away. I'm not wrong but I'm fine being being considered wrong by reddit popular opinion lol.
LvS · 242 points · Posted at 19:03:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This will be a lot more fun on here when Facebook buys reddit.
Spacedicks is an old and infamous subreddit. All I remember was that it was basically dicks photoshopped into outer space, or sometimes penetrating pizza slices, or penetrating giant pizza slices in outer space. It was really just an excuse to post weird dick pictures.
It got quarantined because it had enough fans to occasionally get the grossest pictures to the front page, which is admittedly hilarious, but totally creeped out the lurkers who never see anything but the front page.
It really isn't worth your effort to access.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:18:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Active in the sense that it exists and can be posted to, but not active in the sense of being anything close to the cesspool it once was. Content is approximately the same, but it has been quarantined, meaning CSS can't be applied to the page, users must have verified email, there's an explicit opt-in to offensive content you have to click, and there are no ads or gold. The CSS is the big deterrent of all those; it's much more difficult to browse. I guess the emails too, but it's not hard to whip up an address you never use for anything after that verification.
there is a notable difference between five independent tiny facebook knock offs and one facebook owning them.
And something being structurally as dumb as facebook doesn't mean it has the same influence or power of its users. Quitting reddit means you take your data stream away from reddit (unlike facebook who falls back on whatsapp/instagram) and you face zero social repercussions and previous posts are archived otherwise on the internet.
Reddit becoming like facebook is a meme at this point. It would take a lot for reddit to become as powerful and immune to user migration as facebook even if it would look and feel just like it.
I think it's fine to still use WhatsApp since messages are apparently end to end encrypted so messages wont be scanned for ad info(not saying they can't access the messages if they wanted, that's a different thing). Plus I think courts in Europe are saying that Facebook can't use data from WhatsApp to be used for facebook.
You're right! Even though they can't read your messages, they can still access all the metadata, so they know who you are writing to, when and how much you are writing. This way they know your entire circle of friends you actually talk to, not just who your Facebook friends are. This is very valuable information.
Signal is pretty much Whisper Systems encryption protocol. Whatsapp uses the same protocol. Only difference is, Signal has servers in Switzerland, and they don't log anything but IP addresses with time stamps for initial connection times, and it's wiped every day. The whole program is also 100% open source and has been vetted by the tech community.
Whatsapp not so much. The only thing public is the encryption protocol. But e2e encryption is not enough and useless if the entire program isn't open source imo.
Facebook doesn't really have a good track history of listening to courts, they have shown that they are more then okay with getting the slap on the wrist.
With GDPR coming in I think companies may change how they behave in Europe. The possible fines for data breaches or mishandling of data will be huge compared to the Data Protection Act. I get constant emails about GDPR and getting ready for it at my company so hopefully the main big tech companies and everyone else are acting in the same way.
I kind of want Facebook to do something bad with our data if it means they get slapped with being fined 4% of their global income, I don't know how much that is but it'll be a big chunk of their profits once you convert it. Of course I'm just going based off of the assumption that fines will be much more stricter once it's rolled out, hopefully they are because there's been way too many data breaches.
Signal is open source, while WhatsApp is not. We can review what Signal does while we cannot review what WhatsApp does so we can't verify if they actually encrypt WhatsApp messages at all.
warb17 · 2 points · Posted at 19:43:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes, but one is owned by Facebook and the other isn’t.
I don't even think about Whatsapp as a social media. It's a communication tool these days. Important for both private time and for work. It would be hard to get off of it.
Thank Congress for not making it law that any Umbrella Corp that owns a bunch of shit doesn't have to tell people "Subsidiary" or whatever of Major corp.
Use the Signal app instead of WhatsApp. It's the underlying protocol that handles encryption within WhatsApp, but it is open sourced and was founded (in part) by Moxie Marlinspike who, besides having an amazing name (not his real name though), is a well known and respected security researcher.
That also explains why Instagram starting doing the same bullshit as Facebook, and defining their 'most recent' entries as those that were recently commented on, liked, etc., regardless of their actual posting date.
Xanius · 1 points · Posted at 20:03:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah unfortunately for them they've apparently fucked up instagram. When I open the app I get literally no images on the main page. Just an ad to search Facebook for more friends.
Facebook is just for events and a photo repository for me now. If I deleted it I'd probably miss out on a lot of invites or would just be more difficult to hear about. That's the only reason I'm still on it.
Facebook was no problem for me. Among my peer group (late 20's, post graduates, nyc) it has turned into a total ghost town already. Whatsapp is no problem either. I admit IG will be hard, not because I post much but because I like to browse.
But Reddit is social media..so how can you say you quit? Plus you don’t get to tell someone an insult directed at them then say” glad I didn’t say it, I’m keeping it positive”
if one wants to maintain any type of social media presence.
Been off everything for a couple months. Not missing a thing. Still in contact with all my family and friends 900 miles away (maybe in even better contact now). Still going to events. Dont have all the static, drama, and bullshit weighing me down.
Do you use sms to send text messages? The only reason I still use fb is because it is hard to make the people I constantly chat with change the platform, I literally only use messenger.com and the messenger app.
I have a few good group texts going on my phone, and/or in Messages on my laptop (iphone and mac). I never used the messenger app to begin with, and definitely not after they split it off into its own thing, so not a big loss to me. But I thought I heard you could deactivate your FB profile and still use messenger.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:15:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Where I live SMS texts are limited by the phone company unless you pay more to have an unlimited version of the plan. Sending SMS messages makes no sense financially.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:11:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Mexico but I feel like it is the same for a lot of developing countries and that is way services like whatsapp are way more popular than in the US. Just with a quick look I found a data plan with 400 SMS per month and another one with unlimited SMS for the same price so I don't know what is the catch there. Sure 400 is a lot if you just want to use them to set up appointments and things like that but for general chit chat with friends they are not enough.
Yes that is the exact reason that WhatsApp is one of the most downloaded apps. SMS can be very costly as well as data, but WhatsApp can use very little amounts of data meaning you can text more people before running out.
Tbh here in the UK this problem doesn't really exist anymore but practically everyone I know uses WhatsApp or Facebook messengers. Never SMS.
I'm so confused when people say FB drama, I don't know how anyone could get involved in that. If someone is annoying me I cut their cord. But if you're happier without it I can't really judge!!
I had no idea Facebook owned WhatsApp. I thought that was one of my last private ways of communicating. So they review everything on there and use it for ads now too?? Ughhh
warb17 · 3 points · Posted at 19:44:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I recommend switching over to Signal if you don’t want to rely on Facebook’s property.
It’s strictly for chatting. You can send pics too if you wish. But you just find your friend and can text chat or do a WiFi phone call. It’s the best for friends in other countries.
I may be mistaken but I think that /u/Rehabilitated86 was referring to how this comment's OP consistently has top comments on posts on the front page of /r/all every day.
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 19:47:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd like to pretend I wouldn't do it but I ate ramen all this week to avoid touching my savings because financial emergencies have pretty much tapped me out after the last 8 months, so I probably would.
I am actually curious at what point I would turn it down. Like stick the cash in front of me on a table. I'm not really sure what amount would be too low... $100,000? Shaves almost 10 years off my retirement... If it were in front of me I'd probably do it. $1,000? Heck no. I'm really not sure where my line is.
I've spent many a nights wondering the same thing lol. I'm 20 years old, 250k at my age would be a godsend financially, 100k is what I feel would be my shut off
Honestly, you're crazy if wouldn't. $19,000,000 is an incredibly ridiculous amount of money. Fucking hell there's almost nothing I wouldn't do for a million dollars
Several years ago, there were articles in the tech blogosphere blaming carriers for the lack of Android updates, and I made the point that Apple didn't have that problem, and if Steve Jobs had to suck the cock of every corporate exec of the major cell providers to solve that problem, Larry Page (then Google CEO) should be at their front door with a spit bucket. And then I started to see articles about him having throat problems, so perhaps he gave it an honest attempt ...
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:31:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
TIL: Cancer was not what killed Steve Jobs. It was a cover for the injuries sustained from copious amounts of fellatio.
Actually I’m part of an unofficial unaffiliated unpaid marketing team and advertising that the hit comedy Silicon Valley is returning for its 5th season this Sunday at 9pm ET on HBO. Sign up for your free trial of HBO NOW to watch the season premiere!
I’m just a struggling marketing account manager in between jobs and I was hoping this would get me exposure. My rates are reasonable if you need help promoting your bacon brand.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:27:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Regardless, that show is awesome.
ssor21 · 2 points · Posted at 21:11:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wait, no shit, you actually just informed me about this. I had no clue. Thank... you?
That’s a lot of cocks... i don’t think you’ve given this much thought. You would be much more efficient just jerking everyone off. I bet you don’t even know what your Mean Jerk Rate is? Have you given thought to shaft ratio’s or optimum tip to tip efficiency? I doubt it... If your offer is indeed serious, here is a well written study for maxim jerking efficiency. I’m not sure on your height and size, so its a little tough knowing your D2F, or dick to floor ratio... but its a start. https://www.scribd.com/doc/228831637/Optimal-Tip-to-Tip-Efficiency#
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 18:39:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wow someone saw Silicon Valley on a post about Elon musk. how original and amazing /s
phokas · -1 points · Posted at 18:21:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
MJR. I like it.
[deleted] · 71 points · Posted at 18:16:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's like $0.13 per dick if we're going off the 15,000 employee estimate for Menlo Park alone. Factor in time it takes to complete each (say 5-10 minutes), you're looking at $0.78—$1.56 an hour. Just not worth it.
Hell, who here wouldn't accept $19,000,000 even if it comes from evil?
That's the comment the guy who offered to suck off everyone at facebook replied to. While the intent may have been billion, million was most definitely used.
That assumes all 15000 are people with penises. The software world may be male-dominated, but there's a ton of business-side things which have pretty equal representation.
I worked at a similarly-sized tech company and females were around 30% of the workforce, so we're already down 5000 dicks.
Plus, that hasn't factored in the people who may not want to be sucked off. Dudes who are happily married and getting some at home probably not gonna take that offer.
At the end of the day there's probably only a few thousand who'd realistically take the offer, so it'd probably only take a week or two.
For 19 billion, that's like a 5 million dollar bj per person. You'd better believe I'd do it.
The campus is large and expanding. 6 of the businesses I work for in the immediate surrounding area are either looking to move as their lease won't be renewed (by Facebook, who purchased the properties), or have already moved and the old building demolished and new ones in its place. I would not be surprised if the number of employees at that campus range at least somewhere near 15k
The Bay Area overall (within what could be called "commuting distance"...my commute can take 2 hours, one way, to travel 30 miles.) is home to ~7.68 million individuals. 17k only accounts for 0.2% of that.
Oh, I know that. I might come from a small town but I now live in a big city. Still, I worked for multiple big companies over the years and they usually had 2000 people in one office max, but had multiple offices. Having 15000 employees in one area is a lot of people!
BGYeti · 1 points · Posted at 18:55:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
19B for 50 days of sucking is not that high of a price
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:58:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can we just suck off like 2 or 3 of them? I got some bills to pay.
women take much longer then men. Also considering the age distribution of the employees. I'd say 30 minutes is a better estimate. So that raises the completion to 1 year.
Now if you could use those industrial cow milking machines, you could be in business..
NvizoN · 5 points · Posted at 17:48:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, that's a no brainer. 19 billion would get me to do a lot of things lol
Let me ask you something: Do you know how long it would take for you to jerk off every guy here? 'Cause I know how long it would take me; and I can prove it.
That's about 16,000 cocks but Menlo Park is expanding by about 9,500 soon so if you don't get a 'head' start it might take more than that based on the world record (288/14 hours) and doing double shifts (8 hours a day off though) but working weekends.
Who here wouldn't accept 40k a year to work for people you hate for the next 40 years, doing shit you don't really wanna do? for hours you'll never get back?
.....
Oh, wait...
[deleted] · 10 points · Posted at 18:59:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook probably pays most employees more than 40k a year.
I called you bitter old man because you call everyone a kid. You also interpret a lot into me saying I wouldn't work for 40k a year if it made me miserable.
No idea what you are talking about. The only thing I interpreted about you is that you act like a child. Please try and keep in my mind that you came to the comment you came to defense of was
plays air violin
You can't get anymore childish than literal playground humor and yet you felt the need to defend it. So no, I don't call everyone a child, just the ones who act like it. Like you for example.
40k is barely enough to survive, and do it well.
I'm just commenting on how we'll devote our lives to 40k a year, while these people are talking like they wouldn't do something for millions, yet likely working for far less, doing something for far longer.
If he turned it down they would have just cloned his software feature in Facebook and he would have lost a lot of money. See what happened to the companies that turned down these offers.
Evil? What's that? Is it tasty? Sorry I can't be bothered when I am swimming in my pool of TEARS when I have to pay the government little over 10bill in taxes.
"Hello PitchforkAssistant. We would like to instill you in our latest proxy war as the next Hitler. For your contributions we will give you $19billion"
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:05:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Depends what I have to do for it. There's a lot I'd do, but compromise my morals? No.
For example: Wouldn't kill a non-livestock non-insect/bug/creepy crawley. Wouldn't commit a crime that the $19m wouldn't be able to fix pretty much immediately after. etc.
I wouldnt turn it down, but I'd still be a hypocrite cunt. Like complaining about people not getting taxed enough then getting a huge opportunity to avoid paying tons of taxes and going for it. Many would do it and all would be cunts for it.
99ized · 2 points · Posted at 19:07:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
'im not usually an asshole, but 19 billion is 19 billion'
Fuck you, he's a billionaire. Respect your betters, peasant.
JB_UK · 329 points · Posted at 17:14:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Whatsapp introduced end to end encryption for the contents of messages, and promises were made by Facebook at the time of the acquisition of Whatsapp about metadata, which were subsequently broken. It's not as hypocritical as it sounds.
cruyfff · 24 points · Posted at 19:20:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah I don't get why everyone's jumping down the throat of the whatsapp guy for facebook's transgressions. It really does show what a tl;dr era we are in, no one wants to give a story a moment's thought, they just want to point at the bad guy and call it a day.
I told all my WA family to use either iMessage or Signal. I am quitting WA. It’s the only FB app I use.
I should probably sell the shares I own too.
[deleted] · 258 points · Posted at 18:14:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's not hypocritical if you change your mind about something 5 years later. That isn't what hypocritical means.
bheal · 134 points · Posted at 18:55:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've always hated the idea that changing your mind about something is a cardinal sin in politics. Times change, people change. Society evolves. We should never cement ourselves to anything so strongly that we no longer strive to improve.
Similar for Hillary. Except Obama had the apparent humility to be honest about his mind changing and why, and I don’t know why Hillary couldn’t. I understand that it is a sign of weakness to some, but I’d rather have a few knowledgeable followers than ignorant adoration of many. Maybe that’s why I’m not in politics. Still, Obama seemed to do it the right way.
I thought Hillary did explain her stance, though? The issue wasn't as much on the public mind in the 90's and it also wasn't a 'sexy' political issue that you could use to set yourself apart from other politicians. It took her and her husband (as well as Obama) a while to realize how important the issue was for gay people and how much of an inequality it represented. I remember her saying as much in interviews.
There was also a real risk that trying to introduce gay marriage too early could have made it even harder to achieve that goal, because it could have led to an actual constitutional ban on gay marriage.
That would be fine if she was merely silent on the issue. Instead, there are 10 minute compilations on YouTube of her saying over and over again throughout the years that marriage is with a man and a woman. She even made an infamous appearance on NPR’s “Fresh Air” where she took the question of “Why did you change your mind on gay marriage?” as a personal attack. She could clarify the question before answering the why, but instead she dug her heels in as if she had never said or believed that marriage was between a man and a woman. It was just bizarre.
Ah, there's your problem: getting your news from the pseudojournalistic side of YT. You can't trust they're preserving context and giving it to you straight. Clinton was always pro-gay and fought hard for equality up to but not including recognized marriage (rather, "civil unions"). She was in the company of the majority of Americans as her views evolved.
June 2014: Terry Gross: "Would you say your view evolved since the '90s or that the American public evolved, allowing you to state your real view?" Clinton: "I think I'm an American. (Laughing) And I think we have all evolved, and it's been one of the fastest, most sweeping transformations."
I will say that this did soften some of the edges, but there is still no explanation of her change in position except the people changed. The generous way to say it is that she was doing what the people wanted. The worse way to say it is that she was only doing what was being politically expedient. I'd rather have a leader and a visionary than a poll-taker, otherwise why not go to straight democracy? Her support for civil unions helps, but that only started in about 2000.
Either way, thanks for the source. It could do without the accusations of a diverse media diet. I wanted to find these sources, but even this one is not compelling for the reason stated above. She was not a leader on this issue.
Like Clinton said, that you're kinda glossing over: the entire nation went through the same evolution. I can't understand why you're being so hard on Clinton; there is a clear and consistent timeline of her evolution. As you see, she's had a pro-lgbt stance for a long time; it was the one issue - marriage vs. civil unions - that she got hung up on but eventually relented. I'm 100% sure there were plenty of liberals who themselves were unsure about gay marriage. It seems so innocuous now, maybe it's just hard for us to understand why they struggled with it at all. I mean Obama wasn't pro-gay marriage until 2012, and he was the president.
I’m not glossing over it. I’m saying that’s fine, but she wasn’t a leader on that issue.
Lacinl · 4 points · Posted at 19:23:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There's changing your mind and there's saying whatever the voters want to hear. The first is fine, the second means you can't trust if they'll actually follow through on their words or instead do what they actually think once in power. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between the 2 based on context since everyone claims it's the first option.
That being said, it is true that some people make a mountain out of a mole hill when trying to discredit people.
True, but that’s the job of journalists to dig and ask the follow up questions of why they changed their minds. That allows us to see if their explanation passes the sniff test. Without it we should have no reason to believe their position.
I've been thinking that "sincerity" is amazingly rare anymore and it's probably one of my biggest complaints about Trump. It always feels insulting to talk or listen to people who are insincere. How dumb do they think other people are? (Don't answer that pls)
bheal · 2 points · Posted at 19:44:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've been told I can be condescending at times, which I think is close to the opposite of sincere. I've made a concerted effort to change my behaviour, but I'm not always successful.
I can state from personal experience that people do respond quite differently when you are sincere in your opinions. Catching flies with honey instead of vinegar, I suppose.
Except when you campaign on a platform and change immediately after the election.
bheal · 1 points · Posted at 20:43:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Read my lips. No new taxes
George H.W. Bush
The T.P.P is the gold standard of trade deals
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Didn't work out for them either. I agree with you there. If you're going to make something a core tenet of your platform, you need one hell of a compelling argument to change your mind and then have your supporters accept that justification.
bheal · 2 points · Posted at 19:15:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As much as I hate most of what Rove did, I don't think any one person can be blamed for this trend. It's been a long time coming, and the premise has existed for as long as humans have.
We are by nature resistant to change, hesitant to violate our comfort. It is simple reflex to want to protect the status quo, and much like bad habits, it is something we need be cognizant of so that we can override the feeling when needed.
The term "Flip Flopper" became huge in the '04 election though. I'm sure it was done before that, but he made it the biggest focal point of that election. It's been a trend ever since.
bheal · 5 points · Posted at 19:22:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So maybe they should voice that change outright and talk about what made them change their mind.
bheal · 1 points · Posted at 19:46:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That would be refreshing, I hope to see that happen in our society. Increasingly people seem to be retreating into their safe spaces (on both sides, mind) and discounting any change as anathema.
Yep. Trump-style flip flops, where you will change positions multiple times in the span of a few weeks/months, well obviously that's bad. If someone had the same positions their whole career, though, that would scare me quite a bit. Sounds like a fanatic who doesn't really listen to counterarguments.
of course, because you're not allowed to take in new information or change your mind years after you did something. He's precisely the sort of person that should be speaking up on this
BGYeti · 13 points · Posted at 18:53:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not really the Facebook debacle happened years after the purchase just because Facebook bought his app doesn't mean years later he cant have an issue with their business practices
No! Nuance is not allowed! No one can change their mind, and everyone is exactly the same person they were 5 years ago! /s
That stuff in the political sphere has always confused me. Not only do people bring up stuff people said 20 years ago to discredit their current belief system, but then the politicians often seem to try and dissemble or misdirect from it, instead of just saying "Yes, I did say that, but know I know ________, which caused me to change my mind."
While I'm not certain Action is really a hypocrite here but I know I'd probably do a lot worse than go against something I believe for 19 billion dollars.
I’m assuming you are telling he’s a hypocrite for selling to fb. Founders are rarely in control of when a company sells. For instance, acton is a cofounder, with multiple rounds of investors, at best he could have 25% say in a decision to sell.
Jinno · 1 points · Posted at 18:59:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You don’t do a lot of due diligence on the company buying you when you’re looking for a highest bidder exit strategy.
Think of it as a power move. He got Facebook to give him 19 billion and then he still talks shit about them. Seems good to me. Maybe even put some of that money towards anti Facebook shit.
Not really, he made the best of the situation. Do you know what would of happened had he not sold? Facebook would of made their own clone and essentially drive Whatsapp out of business.
Hypocrisy is to hold two seemingly contradictory positions at once. Hypocrisy is not, changing your position over time. It seems very likely that he has just changed his position over time, seeing as a lot of stuff has happened to Facebook and whats app since he sold it. Including him choosing to leave the what's app dev team after it was going in directions he didn't like.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:04:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Eh, is it though? He sold his company and made a decent amount of money.
Reminds me of when someone buys a painting for like 100 million. People say, "what a waste! That money could have been used in charities. The buyer is selfish."
They basically forget that the seller can just as well do the same, but no one bats an eye. He got his, so let him be.
I mean, the whole argument is absolutely ridiculous. But you see my point.
What hypocrisy? He sold an app that someone would've made anyways, for ridiculous money, and then shit on the buyer. That's some next level alpha
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 18:57:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Eh. He made out with 19B and then turned around and started attacking his buyer. Not necessarily a bad thing. He took 19B from Facebook and now he's helping to dismantle them even more. Kind of hilarious if you ask me.
they updated this again so you could sort stories and messages but it hasnt rolled out fully or something. My girlfriend can sort stories and messages, but i still have the cluster fuck, and we're both on iphones. I just want my stories back :(
jld2k6 · 11 points · Posted at 21:18:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can you not just download the newest version of the app and install it? Is that not something you can do on iOS? If it is, you could fix the issue in 3 minutes
zezosk · 24 points · Posted at 21:19:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Some people get beta updates before everyone else.
jld2k6 · -1 points · Posted at 22:41:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You normally can still just install the Beta app too even if you aren't part of the beta unless they use online verification, then the app will load but not let you have any usability. I do it a lot for apps that show up on the Android sub. I would guess something like Snapchat does have verification though
Worst is you can’t even slide to check the chat without them knowing. It forces you to open it. You can try to slide but it brings you to another section.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:26:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The clusterfuck made me stop watching stories all together. What a terrible design. And who even uses the ad page?? It's so frustrating that great social apps like Instagram and snapchat are being bogged down by garbage, we got these apps because they were clear and simple. Now every major social app is trying to be just like one another with a bit of 'unique' variation. Sigh, I miss the old days...
[deleted] · -6 points · Posted at 02:16:11 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You want a story? Here is one. There is this couple who uses snapchat. Snapchat came about sending discreet photos and or messages that would delete upon reading. People used that app to cheat on their significant other.
Your girl is using Snapchat. And all of her chats are not with you...
And that story leaves us at a cliffhanger. Enjoy!
[deleted] · -7 points · Posted at 02:16:18 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You want a story? Here is one. There is this couple who uses snapchat. Snapchat came about sending discreet photos and or messages that would delete upon reading. People used that app to cheat on their significant other.
Your girl is using Snapchat. And all of her chats are not with you...
The best Snapchat update was to make it so you could set view time to infinity. Literally killed the “view for a limited time” gimmick that they were built upon.
I disagree because if it's a discrete message or whatever it can still be sent for a limited amount of time and the feature is useful for other types of messages
It’s useful, and I use it...but still against the original premise.
Avedas · 0 points · Posted at 04:01:17 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Kinda happy Snapchat is dead as fuck here. Instagram is much better.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 04:29:00 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook owns instagram
Avedas · 0 points · Posted at 05:52:24 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
What's that have to do with Snapchat being irrelevant garbage lol
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 07:05:00 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Theyre all garbage. Use GNU Social.
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 03:24:18 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:25:31 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You sound like a snapchat employee trying to justify destroying your userbase for ad revenue.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 03:58:29 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:30:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You described ads as "cool stories and other random facts"
pingo5 · 1 points · Posted at 16:16:14 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tbh theyre more clickbait articles than ads
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:39:51 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
They're ads thinly veiled as clickbait articles. "10 ways to save money at Gottschalks" and "Is your makeup a bad fit for you? How to bring out your cheekbones with Avon".
pingo5 · 0 points · Posted at 17:08:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, looking at it now theres like 3 news articles relating to protest, a nasa post, awildsketchappeared, and if i scroll a little bit theres a 24k iphone so i guess theres that?
That is because people hate to constantly be bombarded with advertisements. The whole reason to hang out with friends and family is to escape the shitty commercial treadmill for awhile. Reddit is really doing it's best to fuck things up.
I tweet about how terrible Reddit is on Twitter. Reddit is where I shit on Facebook. When I need to complain about Twitter, I go to Facebook. Google Plus is dumb.
I actually recently just made a new LJ account. I was feeling super nostalgic. Although going through the feed I can't understand anything now, because it's all in Russian.
There’s a website (Or a couple out there) that tracks all your web presence and aggregates them into a single profile, and you can only delete this profile if email them. Of course they’ll link email to your Facebook/LinkedIn or what have you, but additional sites also include old forums and even Xanga. I can’t remember the specific site I used to find myself, but I honestly thought I purged the prepubescent cringe-factory that was my Xanga page and yet there's a copy online. People, please don’t use Xanga if it still exists, it was a horrible time for me.
If you remember where to do this, plz lmk. Somewhere out there I made a xanga post about how I started my period the very first time. My grandkids don't need to see that.
We do too. I don't know why they shit on Roku. We have 3. One per bedroom and the living room has the Xbox one and smart TV. And love them soo soo much.
Which is fine, Roku is still the biggest OTT streambox out there (almost as much market share as its next two competitors combined). That may not last forever, but it's a fact right now.
Eh, Roku's more like the Facebook of social media tbh... still #1 (it's got something like 50% more market share than it's next competitor) but is slowing down and its future profitability is uncertain alongside growing trends in its field.
In reality Roku has a far larger audience than any of its competitors. Almost as much as Google's Chromecast and Amazon's Fire TV combined. Though its lead is shrinking.
Here's me thinking you're throwing odly specific shade on an OG avatar.
Cainga · 1 points · Posted at 02:28:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why is Roku used as a bad device in this joke? For what it does it’s a great device. Xbox360 and PS3 being more powerful streaming devices lost lots of support while my Roku still works. I’ve also had a Blu-ray player that could stream but was never given fresh updates so it’s stuck being slow with horrible UI.
You should just funnel all of this complaining onto a PC, PS4 or Xbox live account. Go to a game that has open conversation (or one without and just vent to your mic) and just let off some steam. I can guarantee your teammates will appreciate it.
This is why I like my PC. You'll get much less of that, as they're primarily in Bedrooms and Offices, rather than gathering spaces such as a living room or lounge.
The best place to shit on reddit is reddit by far. I utterly loathe the vast majority of you people.
Porcau · 1 points · Posted at 20:34:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Speaking of which, can we get a few more folks on Gab.ai who aren't completely out of their gourd? It's a bit lonely on there for the politically moderate.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:43:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The problem was putting the responsibility on me to circle people. I don't fuckin' know what your interests are. They should have let me create the buckets and let my followers choose which ones they go in.
I think they've recently tried to fix this with "Collections" but it's too late now since no one's left on Google+ except spammers and random foreigners.
ridum1 · 1 points · Posted at 09:00:02 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
internet is a garbage dump.
Aegi · 0 points · Posted at 19:55:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I just use my Google+ as a way to save links, pictures, and videos from across the web. Then I don't have to message myself or email it but I still get easy access to it from anywhere.
Yeah I know multiple people who have deleted FB because of all the politics on it.... And I'm like you know you can hide or delete those friends right?
Always get the response: that's too much work....
I did it and now I never see any politics or people that annoy me on FB. My feed is always about coming up events/music, and just friend's slice of life stuff that I don't really pay too much attention too. Much more enjoyable and useful.
That's pretty smart, honestly I think FB is pretty ingenious at times. And other times it can be massively idiotic. I suppose I get more benefit from owning a FB than not which is why I still have one.
Yeah, FB is just over that 50% enjoyable/usefulness threshold that makes me keep it. Stuff I don't necessarily pay attention to but might catch my eye is like seeing how a wedding went, or a family member is doing, or that my friend went on vacation, etc. But I primarily use it for events and keeping in touch with groups of friends.
The problem for me was that suddenly it was everyone. Instead of deleting my account, I simply used Facebook messenger instead. It just became an ordinary IM service to me.
Haha yeah I suppose it could have been overwhelming especially last year during elections. I stayed off FB feed for a bit during those few months, only looked at notifications to keep me sane
When the political posts are posted/shared by your grandma, cousins, aunts, friends, uncles, etc, you cant really delete everyone. I deleted Facebook because of it and the fact that every non-political post was a promoted ad.
You can unfollow, hide or temporarily hide types of posts from people now without unfriending them now. You can also hide posts from people that spam a website or something. So like if someone keeps posting Ticketmaster links over and over you can hide ticketmaster posts from showing up on your feed.
Not convincing you too use FB, I couldnt care less. But it's kinda like managing your email, if you don't stay on top of it it just turns into a mess of emails that's hard to find what you were there to find. But if you use the tools that are provided you can tailor it to your liking.
I've been off of Facebook for the better part of the last 2 years, mostly because of the background battery usage. I even installed Facebook lite, but I couldn't bring myself to look at it or use it for more than a day or two.
Edit: don't you have to hide specific pages that people are sharing to filter it? If like 50 people on my friends list are posting links or sharing different pages, it's definitely a hassle to filter.
Subject, question, answer. If the answer is constricted, the subjects and questions are too. Just cause the subject and question are short doesn't mean the expected answer is. Limitations on characters limit the questions you can ask
In context to a much larger conversation, one that is nearly impossible with twitters format, so your point here is very shallow and lacks any perspective towards the actual situation. But nice try.
How many letters was that?
[deleted] · 13 points · Posted at 19:00:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
have you guys ever heard of tweet threads?
i copy and pasted this comment into Twitter btw, it fits
People just love to shit on Twitter for some reason.
As with all these social media platforms, they are what you make them to be. My girlfriend uses Facebook vastly different than I do.
Me: mostly events, shows/concerts, local news, etc.
Her: memes, friends, videos
Twitter is the same, get into politics or not. Follow brands or don't. It's all up to you. Same with Instagram, Reddit... you can use them however you want. If you can't find a way to use it to your liking, then yeah it's not for you.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:24:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reminds me of Tumblr. People always shit on it for the radical nonsense and the superwholockian mess, but I never seen any of it. I just see oil on canvas paintings. It's nice.
ngwoo · 3 points · Posted at 21:32:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In context to a much larger conversation, one that is nearly impossible with twitters format, so your point here is very shallow and lacks any perspective towards the actual situation. But nice try.
The proud ignorance on display here is amazing. You don't think people have deep or meaningful conversations on twitter? Half of the HuffPo's content is literally just rehashes of twitter discussions/arguments.
Ah yes, that moment when I displayed willfull ignorance and this isn't just a shitty attempt by a stupid person to discredit someone who disagrees with them rather than actually having to think about anything. What was that display again? I'm curious.
Ignorance. Where you don't know what you're talking about, but you persist. But sure man, Twitter is dumb and useless for discussion, and you've figured it all out. I'll be getting off your lawn now.
You don't seem to understand the difference between insulting someone and making a valid point. Which, ironically, is a demonstration of my point about twitter. Nice one.
K45C4D3 · 322 points · Posted at 18:04:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Real time notifications regarding sports scores, injury updates, transfers, etc. Things that don't require entire paragraphs. I don't necessarily want to read or have the time to digest a full article about any possible update.
Get a tweet that says Zlatan went to LA Galaxy? Cool, I can check it out on my lunch break and send my wife a quick text about it, I don't need to read the article with his agent statements, press statements, what have you. It's just a passive feed of info that cuts out the middlemen who wrote the stories. They get their news from Twitter anyway.
Twitter is really a perfect platform for sports updates. That's pretty much the only thing that keeps me on it.
Alderis · 76 points · Posted at 18:28:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Informational updates on anything, really.
Having a discussion or conveying nuance in any way whatsoever? Hell no! Twitter is good for exactly one thing. It's everything else that people are trying to do with it that is the problem. Useful tool for narrow communication; terrible social media platform.
It's why it was seen as so incredible during the Arab Spring, we were able to get real-time updates from the people on the ground there about what was happening, without any "spin" from network news
I'm a cybersecurity guy. Twitter is the #1 place for up to date information regarding literally anything in the industry, from software updates to live malware tracking.
It's also a really good platform for weather updates and messaging. We use it a lot in the meteorology community. My one criticism is the non chronological timeline can get fucky sometimes.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:03:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yupp and most people don't disable this so they end up seeing old messages. Which can get confusing for some.
MJZMan · 1 points · Posted at 23:49:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It was also the perfect platform for man-on-the-street style reporting, as evidenced by its role in the Arab Spring. Sadly, that evolved into the platform for agitator bot-on-the-webz to the point where it lost trust, which is crucial to a news platform.
It's kind of obvious when you think about it. Twitter is useful for getting small snippets of information from a lot of people efficiently. People in smaller places know a manageable amount of people and have limited events going on around them, whereas people in places like Vancouver, NYC, LA, Seattle, etc. have a plethora of events and choices around them all the time, as well as a larger circle of people they might interact with on a regular basis. These cities also attract more artistic/creative crowds who use Twitter to network much more frequently than something like LinkedIn.
bheal · 1 points · Posted at 18:58:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In my experience, not a whole lot of people in Dallas will admit to being active on Twitter. The general consensus seems to be that is is basically useless for most discussions and therefore a waste of time.
Most of the pople I know who do have a Twitter handle use it very very seldomly.
I don't know how well my experience and observations translate to the world-at-large, but that's what I see and hear.
You're using Reddit, owned by a corporation (Who have financial ties to Jared Kushner by the way) that frequently has its content referenced on blogs, websites, and news articles. If you think you're not being spied on here too, you're wrong. The internet is not safe.
Yep. I do not post anything personal, I do not buy any products advertised on reddit, and I make use of VPNs.
I do not use any other social media, and I am just about fed up with this shithole. I've definitely seen enough Star Wars/Marvel advertising and Shareblue propaganda to last a lifetime.
It's like 280 or something now. I mostly use it for artists or bands / games. I don't need a 10 pages thesis. A simple hey new video etc out here's the link.
Yeah, I mostly use Twitter to follow authors/artists/YouTubers. It's easy for them to post short updates on that, and still less of a hassle to check than Facebook.
Lonyo · 36 points · Posted at 18:13:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was going to see a comedian the other week, and it snowed. So I was checking his Twitter to see if he was still going to make it to the city to be able to perform. He provided some updates on his location/etc.
There are various things Twitter can be useful for. Sometimes you really do care what that celebrity is doing right at a given moment.
I also used SpaceX's Twitter to get updates on when the launch would be for one of the recent ones which was delayed by about 3 hours.
And sometimes when there's a problem with something (e.g. logging in to a game) I will check Twitter to see if it's just me or if other people are having issues too.
It's not a "must visit" site, but sometimes even a few characters can fill in gaps in information. I also check Donald's Twitter to see what's been on Fox and Friends in the morning.
The New York post office in the 1920's had three post card services a day so you could make lunch plans, conform them, and get your mistress lined up separate from your wife.
It’s like literally the same thing as reddit with a different format. It always cracks me up when I see redditors bash social media, not realizing they are literally using a social media site
I use it for online communities and friends. It's great for keeping up with people in a more conversational way rather than Facebook's style of "everyone write their own essay". It takes getting used to, but I rarely have trouble fitting most ideas into 1-2 tweets
The stupid jokes are fine when it's among your peers. The problem is that Twitter allows idiots to broadcast to the world how much of an idiot they really are. And that has had real life implications (as stupid as that is).
If you just want sports headlines, use an RSS feeder.
The issue is that Twitter users use their real names for some dumb reason (they think they are safe from consequence?) just like on Facebook. Reddit allows you to be anonymous, just like this account.
Except... not everyone does? You shouldn't just generalize millions of users. In my experience at least, the only people who use their real names are those of fame or who purposefully keep a very low profile
You just posted on Reddit in less than 280 characters (same as Twitter’s limit). In fact, most Reddit posts and comments would probably fit in a tweet.
Sat-AM · 3 points · Posted at 19:31:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
With Twitter's format, it's very good for memes, jokes, conversation, artwork, and music sharing. Because others can retweet, you can find a lot of new stuff you hadn't seen before. It still maintains a mostly chronological timeline (with a few exceptions), and has features like lists where you can add users who you may want to keep up with specifically.
IMO, it's a terrible place for serious discourse, even with its recent character limit increase, but not every social media needs to be a good place for that.
pqrk · 2 points · Posted at 18:41:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
a bunch of artists use twitter to share works and works in progress too, which is pretty cool.
Twitter is a great platform for city notices from police, weather warnings, and the like, especially since they would otherwise spend 2 million making a horrendous website for those things.
It’s amazing for networking in academia. I mainly share articles relevant to my subfield with a brief description of the results and link to the published work. This has put me in contact with a number of important PIs (primary investigators aka people who run labs) in my field.
Links. Idle thoughts from important people that they don't have the time to flesh out into an article. Start with following John Carmack and spread out from there.
Aesho · 2 points · Posted at 19:43:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
240 characters and you can now start a thread when you are trying to say something that needs more than 240 characters. Great memes. It full of really funny stuff and people. /r/BlackPeopleTwitter. Then again I am 21 and everyone I know don't really use Insta as much anymore. Twitter is king, and Snap is #2.
You use it to see what everyone says. Being "in touch" like the machine professor X uses to check the pulse of the mutant population, but we don't need superpowers.
Plenty of people totally use social media for "someone."
I got Facebook when it came out because I was in high school. I used it to poke girls I went to school with and flirt with them online, and that was pretty much the whole purpose.
Then I grew up and went to university and stopped using it.
There are people who use it to get their news and keep in touch with people, but c'mon, there are plenty of people who just use it to keep in touch with particular people - I know a lot of people who say "well, I'd quit FB but it's the only way I talk to my extended family".
It's kind of useful for getting breaking information on a single platform from companies and other prominent individuals. Even a headline and a link to a press release is handy.
But otherwise it's an echochamber for particular individuals.
My friend is diabetic and she uses Twitter to talk to people all over the world about research and hardships from country to country. She even posted once about her supplies being delayed (by a lot) and a guy came by her apartment to drop off test strips!
When twitter was introduced, I thought it was retarded. Then it became worldwide famous. Now I understand the genius of it: few of us have anything worthwhile to say, limiting the message size can only be an improvement.
This is also why it's particularly popular among politicians.
It's amazing as an aggregated RSS type feed for newsfeeds, companies, and other large entities. It only turns to cancer when you drill down to tweet comments and interacting with individual humans that you don't know IRL.
know how half of reddit forms an opinion and dives into commenting without actually clicking, much less reading the article, just accepting the headline and making wild leaps of assumption?
Twitter just streamlines the whole process. You don't even need to find an article to link, just make up a clickbait "headline" and the people will like and share it. As an added bonus, if it's a good enough tweet and you have enough followers, news agencies and blogs will pick it up and invent articles to go with it for you.
You joking? Twitter is comedy gold. The problem is people trying to use it as normal social media, where they just follow their friends and the official pages of their interests (sports teams, bands, etc). You gotta know who to follow. Its never comedy central featured comedians that are the funniest, its some 25 year old from alberta, living in his mom's basement that's the greatest.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:01:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Its amazing when typing in japanese. words are 1-3 characters long, whereas english is like 3-15
One thing twitter does better than any other platform is breaking news and other events where you want real-time updates (sports games, etc). Also, if you follow the right people, you can get some good discussion/debate on interesting things. There are also a decent number of hilarious novelty accounts.
I run social media for my company. Monitoring Twitter literally makes my head hurt. I think it's worse than the YouTube comment section because you can at least kind of tell that on YouTube most horrible people are just intentionally trolling. On Twitter...these are (presumably) real people that believe the things they're typing. It honestly makes me scared for humanity's future.
The flipside is that I've read some of the funniest shit ever, from random people just making observations on daily life.
vnny · 2 points · Posted at 22:02:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yea much better on Reddit where you only see one side
TBH I only like it to follow funny people and look at funny tweets. But even when they increased the character count, it made them less entertaining. The constriction of a small character count made for short, snappy jokes.
That sounds like a "you problem", honestly. You can follow whoever you want to. I personally follow close to 200 people and the result is great content 24/7 by some amazingly inspirational people. Don't like somebody? See'ya!
Me to going on twitter literally makes me mad sometimes. Got rid of it just on my phone, just after a week I just filled in my time other ways at lunch time, and I haven't been back.
Then why follow them then? I do just fine without the political garbage and use twitter to track sports scores and transactions along with gaming news and sales.
Why did you make me google that on my work computer? It is bad enough I spend all day on Reddit, now I gotta worry about the tech police asking questions about my web searching habits.....
[deleted] · 16 points · Posted at 19:59:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Unless HR is breathing down their neck or you're generally an asshole then IT probably doesn't care. It's not their job to make sure other departments' employees are productive and not googling porn. They've got more important shit to worry about.
Just don't go to sketchy sites and download shit, because then it becomes a security threat.
Soooo... Do you generally care if peeps are watching porn or being otherwise unproductive (hey Reddit) or is it just downloading that makes you come down on them?
The new Reddit app - user profiles with photo and name, content feed, followers - looks like an orange to me. The iOS version is pretty damn good imo.
The brilliant part is that most of us apple eaters are too busy browsing reddit on our desktops or clinging on to Alien Blue to realize it’s happening.
I'm a_dishonestfear, you're the EaterofFood. That's not changing anytime soon unless reddit decides to completely change their whole platform, which is stupid to think will happen
xian0 · 1 points · Posted at 23:54:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How did we go from huge leaks to thinking that in just a few years? I guess people didn't read the parts relevant to messages being collected and connected. But if that's the case what was the general take away?
Airazz · 1 points · Posted at 11:41:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
For how long?
DSMB · 1 points · Posted at 23:45:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Unless they add a friends function, not really.
Airazz · 1 points · Posted at 11:37:48 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I find it so utterly laughable that this starts from a fucking challenge on Twitter the premier platform for Russian Trolls. Or that many are acting kinda high and mighty about it on Reddit.
Platforms are compromised because they're used by compromised people.
If folks are serious about getting off social media, they could switch to a decentralized social network like secure scuttlebutt (just takes a bit of know-how, which is enough of a barrier for some).
It's probably better if it doesn't draw the masses, just people who care about not being tracked everywhere. Turns out it takes some effort to do that but it's possible. That's the barrier to entry.
Let's move from one company who lets people use our information to target us with politically motivated ads to another company who lets bots post inflammatory political content directed at us.
Yay. We should all just use reddit and let the anonymous bs headlines on the front page dictate our opinion. /s
Email is still the most reliable, flexible, and secure communication method we've invented. Everything else is created/owned by one company, and dies out in ~10 years in the proprietary abyss. No ones chat/group messaging system does anything email can't, email can easily be encrypted with open standards, and pretty much every end-user complaint about email is actually about how their particular client sorts/displays things.
ar0ne · 2 points · Posted at 19:19:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Agreed, everyone just wants to be part of somthing. It doesn't matter what it is. The Harlem Shake, Ice buckets, Deleting Facebook, it will only last 1-2 months tops anyway.
I personally don't give a fuck what Facebook is keeping track of. My life ain't that interesting. I use Facebook to make plans with friends and family and chat. If they want to monitor my shopping habits so that the proper ads are displayed for me then great. If they want to spy on people to prevent a terrorist attack or someone getting hurt, even better.
What if they want to spy on you to develop a personality profile that can then be used to push content at you to purposely mislead you and alter your perception of the world you live in. I mean if you think about it something like that could change the outcome of something as serious as a presidential election. I know you are probably not that type of feeble minded person to fall for such gimmicks but understand there are many people whos only connection to the world is social media and this is the ultimate form of a propaganda machine. There are many many weak minded people who belive anything they read, facebook is not only a tool to identify those individuals but also the tool influence them.
ar0ne · 2 points · Posted at 21:56:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fair enough. I haven't thought of it like that. I'm constantly fact checking all this political stuff my family posts, 90% of it is bullshit or skewed. I wish Facebook removed "News" posts all together. But I guess that's the money maker.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:52:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not exactly, reddit content is moved up or down by the "users" well supposedly. Sure reddit could be falsifying upvotes but i feel like that would be noticed. Yes i know you can buy them but atleast reddit is striving towards a better option. Also reddit has little to no personal info.
Sure, "nothing to hide" ... until they sell your lifestyle info to your insurance company and they jack your rates up or drop you entirely because you live on cheeseburgers & cheap vodka and like to be choked during sex with midget albino donkey hookers.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:58:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You mean that malicious virus delivery platform that every rational and intelligent person on the internet has been blocking for 5 years with a simple browser plugin?
il1li2 · 1 points · Posted at 18:59:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And the business model and therefore the incentives to allow access to data, are still the same.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:59:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No shit. It's just that Twitter isn't embroiled in controversy like... this week, so I guess they're the "good guys". (despite the fact that every change they have made to their service in the past 5 years has made it worse)
I saw people sharing memes on Instagram the other day saying stuff like "Keep Calm and Delete Facebook!" with replies to the meme along the lines of "I'm so glad we're connected here!" It made me sad.
I only used Google + cuz they already have all data anyway from my Gmail/phone. Too bad it's just not as useful as it should be ie: some companies/people I want to follow aren't using it.
I feel Twitter gets a pass. It's shit but it's supposed to be shit. Facebook in the early days actually had a point but it lost its way. The controversy is just icing on the cake, fuck the zuck
That's what I was thinking. Deletefacebook was because of the election shit, but Twitter was just getting for a month ago for not ever cracking down on bots and being one of the biggest Russian troll/fake new farms.
I mean, getting rid of one account is better than nothing but it does seem silly to campaign against one guilty platform on another guilty platform.
It makes me sad. Facebook makes my grandma happy because she can see all her grandkids on it and interact with them even if the bulk don't reply to her. If all my cousins delete Facebook it will leave my grandma alone. She ain't gonna learn twitter. Hell I don't even want to learn twitter.
Holy shit those are brutal tweets if you're managing their social media presence.
[deleted] · 1689 points · Posted at 19:19:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That’s what I was thinking. A hell of a way to learn you’re fired.
puabie · 1658 points · Posted at 19:55:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah, a social media coordinator does a lot, lot more than post stuff on Facebook. In fact, this would be almost nice as a coordinator, because you don't have to manage as many online presences.
Everybody keeps acting like Facebook is it. Their social media team is probably like "Thank fuck I don't have to deal with Facebook anymore."
UFO64 · 379 points · Posted at 20:35:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon: "Happy Friday guys! DELETE THE SHIT OUT OF OUR FACEBOOK!"
atrca · 73 points · Posted at 22:56:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
AMA request the chain of people who handled this request.
How many times did you check your calendar to make sure it wasn’t April 1st?
I mean that’s not going to be easy to believe if someone walks into your office and tells you to remove the page. Elon wants it gone.
UFO64 · 38 points · Posted at 23:17:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My guess is that the pages aren't deleted, just not public anymore. That, and this was just a direct email from Elon to his team. When your CEO says "jump", you don't question it.
atrca · 7 points · Posted at 02:03:42 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ya I’m sure it’s just unpublished.
Even if it came via direct email I would still have cause for hesitation. A quick look at his twitter page that I’m sure the communications team follows would answer any questions but I wouldn’t be so quick to believe something in email or text you know?
I'm not disagreeing with you, but this is an amusing thought, that someone's Twitter feed is a more trustworthy source of info than a direct text or email.
atrca · 6 points · Posted at 04:32:16 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hahaha true. I guess in my head two compromised accounts is less likely.
Agreed, I've managed several Facebook pages for (obviously smaller) companies, and it's just a burden. It's a good presence for a restaurant (hours, menu) and a few other things, but for the most part it's a time suck with very little ROI for the business.
I'm not even into it for restaurants... I hate when I want to click hours or menu and it sends me to Facebook. I like how it shows up in the Google search tho.
I agree, it's no substitute for a real web page, but so many places have awful pages that sometimes it works. I'd much rather see the Google view for sure though.
It REALLY depends on the type of company it is, what they do or sell or offer, and how willing they are to either create content or hire someone strictly to create content. Most companies don't want to shell out extra money for those things, so they have pages with no interaction because they are just posting boring things. Then, when it comes time to run a big sale or have an event, the announcements don't get clicked on because they aren't being shown to as many people.
I'm sure it works for some larger companies, but paying for ads on facebook and similar places did nothing for the companies I worked with. If they had spent some money throwing events and doing things that they could photograph and put on facebook, that would mean more interaction with people, who in turn would see the sales and other things they posted.
For example, I suggested at one place that they do an event, then have a photo area with stand up props and decor, and we'd take photos of them and put them up on the page (and / or use their phones too) and then people would tag themselves or comment, etc. which would up the interaction with the page. You could do this on facebook, instagram, snapchat, etc. for free. The manager / owner didn't want to bother with it, and threw money at facebook ads and adwords, which led to no sales at all that I could tell, so it actually lost money.
Plus people who haven't dealt with it or aren't as familiar with the web (older people) will "hear" it's the hip thing and want a page and want interaction and followers on the scale of a Nike page. It's doable for something with decent interest and lots of content to post, like a GoPro, but I talked with a midsized chain of stodgy insurance agencies that had a facebook and twitter account that were sad, but there was literally nothing you could do to make it interesting (aside from more wacky things like Dennys). Their posts were hilariously bad.
Why would someone go into social media management if they don't like managing social media like Facebook? Is there something about it in particular that makes it worse than others to deal with?
I did it because the boss asked, "Have you liked our FB page?" No. "Go like our page, you're the admim." Ok
I mostly check it to make sure no one is cussing us out. Speaking of which I just remebered I was sick this week and couldn't do as many service calls soooooo Oh shit I need to go check FB now!
Good question, but doesn't entirely apply to me :) I'm a community manager... There was a time when a Facebook page was valuable to some communities and you need a personal account to manage those. Thank goodness that's no longer the case and I was able to delete both personal and work accounts this week.
Do it man, delete the page if you can miss the advertisement. Its the only way to protest against their actions. Its not like Facebook will change because of the backlash, so might as well stop using it.
[deleted] · 29 points · Posted at 21:10:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reading the message you screenshotted below, it actually makes sense. They didn't like the "Sore Feet?" part. I find ads like that pretty obnoxious personally. They just don't want to encourage the paranoid insane people who'll see the ad and think "Omg, my feet are sore? Facebook is watching me and can read my mind!". I mean, Facebook does try its hardest to watch people and read their minds, but still... wait.... Why am I defending Facebook? Nevermind.... fuck Facebook.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 23:24:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think they are saying if you had an ad for glasses that said: "Crappy eyesight? Buy glasses from here!" that would also be against the rules. I'm guessing they don't want the list of ads bombarding users to collectively come across like "You are ugly and sick, and your body is broken, your feet are sore, and you smell bad!" Because it puts people on the defensive.
Seriously, fuck Facebook’s Ads Manager. I feel like I didn’t know what hate actually was until I had to start using it.
Aanon89 · 11 points · Posted at 20:31:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yup. It's the biggest social media spot but not even close to the only social media spot. Add to that the fact this single Twitter thread will probably get more publicity to the company than their FB page ever has. Don't think that many people have found those companies from their page. It's also not like people on FB can't post articles about Tesla & SpaceX. Something like that would be a bigger hit to a company.
I work in social and I like Facebook. It has the most data, the best tools and despite everyone here hating on it, it still has the most active users in most countries. From an organic point of view there's better platforms, but looking at paid performance there's not much out there that even comes close. That's not just my opinion, benchmarks given by 3rd parties and even the platforms themselves confirm it too.
This whole Cambridge Analytica thing has blown up on sites like Reddit, but truth is that 99.9% of the internet doesn't know, care or understands it. Whether we like it or not, social in large part = Facebook. We chat through Whatsapp or Facebook Messenger, we use Facebook or Instagram to look at pictures of our friends and favourite brands, some use Oculus, most of us have connected to several services through Facebook logins. Whatever way you look at it, Facebook has its hooks in us.
Other services using it to login/authenticate is the real kicker. Things like Tinder dont even work without a FB account. Supposedly Niantic (Pokemon Go and Ingress people) are swapping in FB as an account method for their services too.
Facebook’s ad platform and reporting tools are an absolute nightmare. It takes me twice as long to pull end of month numbers with them than it does with Twitter or Google AdWords.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:18:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit's user base is showing its age lol
Adito99 · 94 points · Posted at 20:13:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm a tech. When I hear we're getting rid of the old POS server I drink more whiskey than usual that night. I imagine I'd have a similar reaction to not having to post on facebook anymore.
Esmyra · 72 points · Posted at 20:17:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you drinking to celebrate, or to forget? I’m not following.
TheKLB · 85 points · Posted at 20:21:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Right? People all over this thread are assuming there are workers down in the Facebook mines. No. There's a tiny team of social media personnel and that's it. They have access to the cafeteria possibly and maybe some coffee. That's it.
It's a professional company that deals with all kind of online social relations. They're fine.
You guys joke but some people really think it's just an* intern smoking pot and eating pizza that was just caught off guard.
jtoeg · 166 points · Posted at 19:39:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah imagine finding out you're fired from a really big job at a huge company or institution over tweet. Man that must be devastating.
Really devastating.
Rex Tillerson knew he was fired when he couldn't get the Rosneft Exxon deal through the sanctions. Nine fucking trillion dollars bitches. He was not fired because of anything else.
Well all they need to do is have less focus on that site and focus more on others. I know FB is the most populated but there's always other places. Plus I'm sure not 100% of marketing is done on their Facebook.
It’s honestly probably true... Tesla especially is image obsessed. One non customer has to make a scene and they’ll fire anyone. It’s more fun being a fan then being a part of. Like wizard of oz. you think there’s a big magical green man saving the world and it’s just some dweeb with a voice changer.
Why are we assuming they were fired? Why couldn’t Elon just call and say “hey let’s delete the Facebook and double down on sites like twitter or reddit”
I think people are more so looking for the next thing. Snapchat is having issues and Venmo is okay, but as far as a global social media network - the “cool” and useful options are dwindling.
Digital Strategists are now at website management and being present on the social media platforms that aren’t in danger of going under yet (which is all of them, but, soon, who knows?).
I'm pretty sure a multi-million (billion?) dollar company would have access to their own Facebook Business page.
R-nd- · 1 points · Posted at 01:36:01 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm saying they might not have HAD an official Facebook page. Not that he didn't know about his own Facebook. I'm wondering if they were unofficial made by someone without their knowledge.
To be fair, you have very little control over the UI/UX/design of a FB page. You pretty much get to pick your profile image and banner, and then have to be happy with how the FB engineers set it up. So not really the fault of any Muskian social media team.
Yea imagine if they had to manage an old myspace page. They'd have to pick a good colour scheme, background, profile pic, custom mouse pointer, and a dope music playlist.
Was fun until the MySpace profile generator pages injected ads into all the profiles. I used to design my own profile tweaks in Notepad++ and felt like MySpace was pretty flexible when it came to allowing customization. But then everyone's pages started just becoming AIDS and brought back PTSD from the Geocities and Angelfire days.
Aesho · 2 points · Posted at 22:18:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
exactly lol and Well my Reddit tab just goes to /r/all then I browse /r/baseball or /r/SquaredCircle from there. Just happened to see this headline at the top and checked it out.
Too many normie-esque subreddits pollute /r/all and it would take forever to add them to my all filter. I just have to lol at people who think this place is more sophisticated than Facebook in these comments. They haven't looked at /r/all recently.
Aesho · 1 points · Posted at 00:21:55 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I just come for sports, music, and my local city. Politics and shitty clickbait is something I am able to avoid thankfully.
Not necessarily. They just won't have as many billable hours because they aren't managing that platform anymore.
Depends on how the company is structured, but it could mean that individual no longer has a job. Could mean they're shifted to the leddit/Twitter/Instagram team instead.
I work for a fairly popular company and you’d be surprised. We have 3 people who manage the social media and like 6 people behind the scenes. For how many followers we have you’d think it would be bigger.
i was reading it as more of a dig at facebook itself. the UI is pretty boring but i suppose it was designed mainly for humanoid face profiles and not to make products look good
honestly, it’s a great time for anyone to try and present a new social media platform. people are so irritated with facebook’s shady ways, instagrams dumb as fuck algorithms, and the worst UI change ever... aka snapchat after that huge update last month.
users are irritated and restless, and want to leave but feel they have no where else to go.
Not so much for that, but for putting out the word to large numbers (hundreds) of people, sending out updates. My local swing dancing scene and fencing club use it a lot for that, it's more convenient than any other option I've seen.
You know I was thinking of this the other day. Once they get their proposed global net satellites up, that would be a good time to make their own social media site and tie it to that proposed internet service.
The mention of MySpace below would be perfect. MySpace improved social media with Tesla global internet.
You betrayed him... You should be happy for your first friend ever on social media to make 200million bucks. It's not like anything of value was lost.... Unless you really miss those cringe inducing journal entries of yours.
Oh! My God, this is terrible. Could somebody please find Ja Rule? Get hold of this motherfucker, so I can make sense of all this. Where is Ja? Help me Ja Rule!
IpMedia · 135 points · Posted at 18:42:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I need to know what Ja thinks of the newly imposed goods tariffs, otherwise how will I know what to tell my representative? I ask you HOW WILL I KNOW???
Just realized their backsides are capable of moving stock prices. Hindsight 20/20 confirmed.
We live in a strange world...
desetro · 35 points · Posted at 17:56:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I didn't believe someone behinds can do so much damage until my brother show me a behind model with over 18million follower. That command some fucking power right there. Having the eyes of 18 million people is insane.
[deleted] · 50 points · Posted at 18:59:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
ya they capture so much of the market space that it would be stupid not to capitalize on it.
Peidae · 4 points · Posted at 19:44:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
IIRC, the Kardashian tweet wasn’t responsible for the loss of stock value. There were other factors at play. News sites just used the Kardashian tweet because its a flashy headline.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 21:16:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Snap shares were already in decline after more than a million people signed a Change.Org petition named “Remove the new Snapchat Update” and called for the app to scrap the new design."
Best part was Jenner reneging her original sentiment (kind of) in a follow-up tweet, with Forbes commenting, "but the damage had already been done." Wonder if the Forbes proclaimed "entrepreneur and Kardashian half-sister" got a call from her broker reminding her that she held considerable Snapchat stock in her portfolio. Or if Snapchat themselves reached out asking for a little love.
Regardless, this all took place directly after a redesign of the product, so I'd call you both correct. Grab more readership with a flashy headline and partial story that wasn't untrue by any means, but the rest of the story goes over other stuff as well.
That whole "Kardashians move the stock price" thing was complete nonsense. $SNAP fluctuates that much or more every damn day. Seriously look up the last two months of SNAP on a chart and I bet you can't pick the day Kylie said something. It's just volatile.
What’s wrong with having cosmetic procedures? And if nothing, then why bring it up? There’s a certain irony in pretending to be above superficiality by spending your time commenting on what other people choose to do with their own body.
Lmao sorry man if my jokes against kardashian family hurt your feelings or something.
I personally think people like them and the masses that wanna be them or follow them are a giant part of what’s wrong with society in the states.
That family is crazy, like per definition.
And I guess nothing is wrong with having cosmetic procedures if you’re okay with being not the real you. I personally would never date someone who has had a lot of cosmetic surgery like most all of the kardashians.
And at the end of the day it was a joke man, so look as deep into it as you want but it was a joke lol not me spending my day commenting on other people’s bad body decisions. Just one joke.
Who the fuck cares what Ja Rule thinks at a time like this? I don't wanna dance, I'm scared to death! I want some answers that Ja Rule might not have right now.
I always thought it was hilarious how he tempers his criticism a bit (if that's the right wording for it), in that he only suggests that Ja Rule MIGHT not have the answers, not that he definitely doesn't have them.
Snapchat wasn't hemmoraging users at any rate. Pop culture figures (Kylie and Rihanna) both tweeted negatively about the app, which affected short term stockholder confidence and led to a brief dip.
$SNAP is also small cap stock so its way more prone to fluctuation than, say, $GOOG (19bn vs 715bn respectively).
Bitch have you ever used Snapchat? It went to pure shit after the update and everyone complained. I probably halved the amount of snaps I send after that shit update
You are railing against an argument no one made. OP said her complaint tanked the stock. OP never mentioned mentioned anyone deleting anything.
It went: her tweet -> stock tanked, presumably because investors read/heard of her tweet and dumped the stock.
Given that it was only for a couple of hours or a day or so and had no lasting consequences, the effect of her tweet on the stock sounds perfectly plausible to me.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:27:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People were starting to delete the app, but her tweet directly caused it to drop
Seriously though can we put some pressure on them for this? They use instagram(which FB owns) heavily but FB not as much so they wouldn't mind doing it..
This is the family famous for a sex tape and having cameras in their faces 24/7, right? Something tells me that Facebook's privacy issues are not a big concern for them.
Did you hear? The Kardashians still use facebook! Haha those losers! Everybody point and laugh at them!
Oasar · 1 points · Posted at 20:01:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Their social media makes them so much money it’s ridiculous. They don’t care personally because their entire lives revolve around everyone knowing exactly what they’re doing, all day every day. They’re not gonna delete shit.
Chris Brown is still rich and famous after beating Rihanna. Do you think using facebook is the line where people stop supporting them? No such thing as bad publicity for the Kardashians.
They were famous before the reality show. Sports, movies and other media. Just not in front of the camera mostly
itty53 · 8 points · Posted at 17:38:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Eh, Robert Kardashian (their dad) was also a lawyer on the OJ case, and the whole Bruce Jenner/Kris Kardashian thing. That's how they got famous in the first place. The girls were born famous, really.
Unless you follow US celebrity court cases and the Olympics, you wouldn't have any reason to. That was my point. They were popular in their own right, but the "Kardashian" name didn't really mean anything to anyone until "Oh, the one with the sex tape." Granted, she looked amazing in it.
I know who they are now, but pre-Kim-Kardashian-sex-tape-and-all-the-ensuing-TV-bullshit, I had no idea who they were. Nor would most other people here. I doubt a lot of people in the US knew who they were either. Maybe they would have recognized Jenner's name if they watched the Olympics back when Bruce Jenner was winning medals but otherwise they probably had no idea.
More like boycotting McDonald's locations but still getting it delivered. You can still get the same stuff, you just don't have to go there.
dahjay · 1 points · Posted at 19:41:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Way, way too much money to lose for them. They have so many beauty product brands that they could never leave the platform or they'd lose an income stream.
I don't know if you're referencing this but Kylie Jenner literally tweeted something to the effect of "anyone like not get on Snapchat anymore" and their stock price dipped considerably
kinda like how Rihanna made an Instagram post about Snapchat being shitty for making an ad mocking her/domestic violence victims and they lost millions in one day?
ya know, I think I'd rather they encourage their people to go focus on facebook. then maybe they can all go there to wither away and die a social media death.
Snapchat stock was already dipping before the Kardashians spoke up.
They had negligible effect, it was bad journalism.
Most of us don't give a flying fuck about the Kardashian's opinions so why would the people who buy and sell stocks?
That was actually a legitimate sentence. As much as I prefer to stay out of anything relating to them, apparently Kim Kardashian posted pictures of the character "Zero Two" from the anime named "Darling in the Franxx" (that last word's pronounced "franks") and mentioned how that character is one of many inspirations for her hairstyle. Here's a pic of Zero Two for reference's sake.
And "weebing out" just means she's a big fan, though I wouldn't know if she is or not.
Whoever designed it was too obsessed with creating circles instead of designing a simple functional UI.
[deleted] · 587 points · Posted at 19:28:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I also think they messed up by hyping it up, then releasing it slowly to people. You joined, didn't have any friends on it, then stopped using it. Then more people were allowed a few months later, and they had the same experience of having no active friends on it.
But Facebook was at least a few college campuses at once I believe, so at least you knew some people on it
dd53 · 7 points · Posted at 22:13:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Also Facebook didn't have Facebook to compete with. Myspace and Friendster existed but most college kids in 2004-5 didn't have much social media presence. There was a pretty big portion of the market untapped.
Facebook was a big UI advancement over Myspace too.
Much like how Google was just Yahoo but way better.
ede91 · 3 points · Posted at 23:04:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You could get easily plenty of invitations iirc, I got one from my roommate while in university, within a few days everyone in the dorm who were interested were invited to it.
That's a fair point. I'd forgotten that it started off as a fairly closed network. Not sure that would work these days.
ede91 · 1 points · Posted at 23:07:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It worked because it was new. None of the other platforms till that point had the features it had. That made people interested in it, but I have no idea what kept them there. I am fairly convinced that it is not the deep and respectful conversations.
Kevin, Creator of Google+, here just want to say real quick, CIRCLES WERE THE GODDAMN UI! WHY THE HELL DOES NO ONE UNDERSTAND THE GODDAMN CIRCLES!?!? THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL! THEY'RE LITERALLY THE SIMPLEST SHAPE!
BUNCH OF GOD DAMN FACEBOOK SQUARES. MINDLESS PROTOZOA. GO BACK TO THE PRIMIRDIAL SOUP AND ROT YOU FILTHY TRIANGLE LOVER.
I've been using it since day one. It works great and I really don't think you understand that the point isn't to get it to look like facebook. You can get it to look like facebook, if that's what you like. I however never really look at the "all circles" tab.
You're supposed to look at each of your circles in turn, or small groups of circles if they are related. It is set up for notifications of things you think should be important. I'll admit the default notification is pretty much what Google thinks you need to see, but it's pretty close to the newsfeed of facebook.
The home setting is pretty much a r/all of things you like plus things that are popular sprinkled in with things related to things you looked at. I ignore that page and use Reddit.
I really don't think you understand that the point isn't to get it to look like facebook
Not sure where you got that from my comment. I never mentioned anything about how it needed to look like Facebook. The circular design it initially came out with just wasn't intuitive enough for the basic user. It was pretty but not functional in the sense that the average person easily understood how to navigate it.
Though the bigger issue was probably the fact it lacked a -lot- of the social features that Facebook had already incorporated by the time it came out.
Really? You guys are really missing out on great features. No clue what those features are since I had the same experience as everyone else. But I assume we are all missing out now.
Any features it has that are really good, Facebook is in a position to copy by lunchtime, with a FAAAAAR bigger userbase.
The thing with social networks is that they're about the people. Google+ was like a phenomenally designed airport, all sleek and flowing concourses and award winning architecture... and no flights.
Like the train station between north and south Korea. It's a trainstation alright, it's beautiful, from what I remember, cealings 20p feet in the air with floor to ceiling windows. Sunlight dancing off the empty ticket board. No but tourists that came up in a bus.
Yep. They did like half of the work (creating a great product) but absolutely failed/made no effort on the other half (marketing it to people and getting people on board)
If you want to make a new dominant social platform from this point forward, you need to realize that most of the job and investment isn't in the platform/tool, it's in the marketing for getting people to come on board.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 22:28:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Remember wave or something. Nobody knew what the fuck it was fior. It was like it solved a problem that only silicon valley nerds had and it made them think it would ve great to solve.
Maybe that was by design, I also had difficulty but if you think about it, facebook is toxic (my experience) but that's because any Tom dick and Harry can join, make it a bit more difficult you get a slightly better grouping of people however obviously patience is not what most people have nowadays days when it comes to social media which I believe is the cause of the toxicity (not fact checking, researching headlines, etc) I've been guilty of this too so I'm not pointing fingers
I used it LOADS. I absolutely loved that posts effectively had RBAC.
The thing is, other than most of my mates already having Facebook and so being doubled-up, social networks aren't as effective when you intentionally post most of your content to very small portions of your friend group.
ucefkh · 3 points · Posted at 19:37:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
ACL is less a concept than a practice. It stands for Access Control LIST.
MAC, DAC and RBAC are the authorisation models being implemented. Mandatory, Discretionary and Role Based access controls. Mandatory is not seen much these days, discretionary is seen too much sadly and is generally where things go wrong as it tends to be manual, ad-hoc and implemented by people who haven't planned their model and role based is the most structured and managed.
In reality most organisations aim for RBAC and end up in a mess as DAC slips in due to mismanagement.
ucefkh · 1 points · Posted at 09:11:19 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Bro I have developed apps with ACL and know it's a good solution for permission based actions...
Anyway nice talk
Btw BAC was just a bullshit acronym I've thrown there ;)
Given I proposed MAC, DAC and RBAC in the first place, do you think that was perhaps a typo?
You never be heard of RBAC so I really can’t take anything you say with any sort of authority. These are universal and basic principles that are acknowledged across disciplines. Saying you’ve implemented something you’re not familiar without doesn’t do much for you’re case.
ucefkh · 1 points · Posted at 13:26:33 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Look you the Joneses I've had enough with you're shit knowing it all and being the best in everything so take down a notch and respect me :p
Turns out that blithely sharing way TOO much personal info was something that really drew people to Facebook all these years... Lets face it Facebook is just the online version of rubbernecking at a car accident scene: everyone gets up there and slows down, each hoping to see something different (gore, heartbreak, triumph, humanity) and none benefiting substantively in any conceivable way. Oh and everyone behind them is mad at the delay but eager to take their 30 seconds extra to gawk too.
Take that away and theres no reason to stick around! Google+ was Facebook without ANY of the appeal of oversharing. And that, as we now know, makes for a really boring platform.
ucefkh · 2 points · Posted at 19:36:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The other thing that strikes me about what I said earlier: Google+ is exactly as boring as you would expect a service to be if it's inhabited by a group of people all specifically concerned about their privacy.
It already is awesome and better than fb (for a subset of "awesome" and "better" ranked based on the default sharing settings and data aggregation capabilities) but if you want it to be awesome and better but still resemble FB, you can't. FB has the market completely sewn up.
Same thing here, I look at it once in a while and there is one friend who makes weekly posts about some beach diet she is doing (marketing) but it never has replies from other users so I am not even sure if anyone else is seeing what she doing there.
It doesn't even have basic functionality anymore. I was really pissed at Facebook a few months ago and was 100% ready to cut it out completely and bug my core friends to switch if I could just use something else as simple as Facebook messenger but Google+ has no chat function at all. At this point I'm not even sure what Google+ is trying to be because it's clearly not trying to upend Facebook.
This is Google Allo for me. I want so badly to use it 100% as my text/SMS app but it just fails at that basic thing. Nobody wants to install a special app to talk to only a few people.
P10_WRC · -3 points · Posted at 19:08:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think GMail is crap too. i just can't get used to using it.
Gmail has gotten better recently. I loathed the way they showed past emails on a chain up until maybe a year ago; they previously relied on indentation and tried to get all fancy when people didn't responded to emails out of order. Everything looked like hot garbage after the first response.
P10_WRC · -2 points · Posted at 19:12:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
the interface is just not good compared to other providers.
Anyone you know personally ends up in Primary, or replies to interactions you started. Things like newletters go to promotions, out of sight out of mind, and things like package tracking go to updates. Ez pz.
If that's just not doing it for you, maybe try Inbox by Google.
ucefkh · 1 points · Posted at 19:39:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep I support that too. Installed it for a lot of old people back when I did desktop work. They were used to outlook express so that was the best route for them.
I've used Yahoo and Gmail for 10+ years. Gmail is pretty much a breeze for me to use. Guess exposure is a limiting factor?
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:24:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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ucefkh · 0 points · Posted at 19:38:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nice! So you're ready to migrate from Gmail to a new better solution?
tFraze · 9 points · Posted at 19:12:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've used nothing but gmail for personal email for as long as I can remember, we'll over a decade. What's difficult about It? Is there a simpler service I'm unaware of?
ucefkh · -2 points · Posted at 19:40:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes normal mail?
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 19:12:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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ucefkh · 1 points · Posted at 19:39:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why? Be more explicit? What don't you like about it?
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 19:13:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I use gmail religiously. All of my personal email accounts are on gmail
Why the fuck do people do this though, for the most innocuous things? The first time you see it it's amusing, but after trying to follow a thread I find it incredibly annoying, if I'm being honest.
Someone will post a comment saying "Hey Bob's Pizza is really great. Their double pepperoni supreme is really great and served piping hot!"
Then a bunch of people reply with things like "ikr? Burnt my mouth on it but it was sooo worth it!" And "My Thursday isn't complete without it!" And so on.
Then the poster of the original comment edits their comment to say something like "Have any of you ever tried deep throating a hot steel dildo that's stuck in the ass of a hairy fat dude? Nothing gets my dick hard like sweaty burning ass dildo down my face hole!" Now the majority of the replies to their comment still make sense, but just look like they are agreeing with something dirty and depraved. It's a silly joke.
In this case someone made a comment about Google+ being hard to use and then changed it to be about a dildo that looks and smells like shit.
On the Facebook thing: ever wonder why there are "Like" buttons on porn sites? They don't care if you click it. They only care that it's there. All those little like buttons on pages allow them to track what you visit, and by associating it with your device or connection, they can build a pretty good picture of what you like and how to manipulate you.
And you’re the first person I’ve seen mention that it is so unusual. Everyone else is replying “same here,” or whatever. I think we’ve been tricked for being late to the party. Definitely got a goofy edit.
Same here. I actually tried bothering to learn it but.. it's a fucking mess. It's so ugly too, it looks unfinished and lazy. I spent hours just looking for where you'd change your password, i had to Google it and even Google was unsure.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:21:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think I made one just to get pictures as a background of my Chromecast a few years ago and am completely lost when I've tried to do anything else with it.
I have one from designing phone stuff but put all that on hold when I discovered Q. Have a great community of friends on G+ that have been incredibly supportive and helpful, but I can't stay away from Q stuff long enough to design anything lol! Honestly this is much more important and I can get back into design mode once this is finished, that is if G+ is even around by then! 😁
I work at Google and am instantly reduced to squinting pessimism as I guess where my next click will take me on a coworkers G+ page.
That being said, every bit of technology that was built for G+ is impeccable and has come back to underpin every other Google apps product - which is significant when you consider these other apps are counting 10s of millions of users as rounding errors.
vgf89 · 1 points · Posted at 21:18:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
G+ actually isn't that bad now that I'm looking at it again. Each page (user, community, topic, etc) is basically a chronological Instagram-esque layout. Community pages have filters on the left side too which is nice.
Honestly, to me it just seems the only real issue is general underutilization. I might start using it again tbh.
I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm. Like, I would fully believe that somebody would buy and use a literal shit dildo. I'm sure being autistic doesn't help.
Ya know, I was gonna say that I don’t think I’d even put anything designed to stab me in my vagina, but then I remembered we’re already talking about a shit dildo. Do you
It's funny, because it's actually become big in the corporate world for running internal networks as part of the Google suite. However, all those pages are hidden to the rest of the world.
Using it personally, I have a bunch of mates a and family that work for Google, so I actually had friends on it. It was still crap as 40 friends doesn't compare to the 500+ on Facebook and 800+ professional contacts on LinkedIn. It never got critical mass and there was never a big enough reason to use it over Facebook or Insta or LinkedIn.
I am in circles I like, but the one I used the most at once just has filled up my email with about two gigs worth of alerts I've never read.
I like Google+. It has its place. But it's neither Facebook nor Reddit nor Pinterest. It's unique. I feel less like it's never found its market and more its market has never found it, because Google+ seems to know what it is but most of us don't.
The fact that a can't search a single pin board in Pinterest is infuriating and makes me wonder what the hell Pinterest is good for. Use case: "You're looking for a Mac n cheese recipe? Oh, just check my Tried and True recipe board on Pinterest" it has 600 recipes and no way to search it. SMH.
Reading this post is like one of those cathartic experiences where I suddenly realize that thing I've experienced so many times isn't unique to me, but also at least one other guy on the internet, and then it's just a domino-effect realization of "oh fuck this is probably something that annoys millions of people."
I wish I could just turn off anything on pinterest in my image results. Unless I can and I'm just retarded.
It's when you realise how grateful we should be for those few, mostly unsung people who keep making small improvements to stuff that millions use.
Plott · 2 points · Posted at 19:44:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I love Pinterest. But I only love it when I’m choosing to use it through the app on purpose. I fucking hate all the google results when I’m searching for things
Whenever I need a quiet place to relax and be without any friends or fam, I know I can count on Google + to give me the lack of interaction I’m looking for
Google+ is terrible, but I love Google Keep, and wish they'd figure out a way to make that their social networking platform. It could kill Pinterest and Instagram if they made the right moves.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:24:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Right? Add the ability to include GIFs and Videos, to make posts public or tag others privately, and allow others to republish or comment. Bam. Perfect social network.
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 19:40:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I signed up for G+ when it was still invite only. I loved the hell out of it. Then they redesigned and I left. Tried to use it the other day to read something and like... who thought that design was a good idea? It looks like a tumblr blog theme inspired by Pinterest, but then worse somehow.
We desperately need a viable alternative to Facebook. I wish Mastodon had caught on. Or Diaspora. Both are great.
Is Ello still around? What happened to Diaspora anyway?
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:38:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ello is still around but they’re focusing heavily on creatives and it’s kind of useless/impenetrable if you’re not an artist. And they’re not very successful — most artists prefer twitter anyway.
Diaspora is also still around but it’s tiny. I think they have less than 100k active users. Mastodon is doing better, but they still have a relatively small userbase (I believe they just broke the 1 million mark a few weeks ago).
It still exists, but is very different from what it originally was. Unfortunately, I can't give specific details about what changed because I very rarely (maybe once a year) use it.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:05:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They still have a chance, even if it's a small one. Revamp how it works, market it, play up the privacy angle. It's been a few years since the youtube thing, so if they ever want to get it off the ground now's the time.
Reddit seems to do fine, as do Tumblr, Twitter, and YouTube. What do those companies do that Google Plus can't? Hell, Google apparently has the best privacy policy anyways, according to the Center for Plain Language.
The worst thing was that Facebook literally already had the exact same easy to use functionality long before it was even announced (except they called them lists instead of circles). It just wasn't made the centre of the platform.
I’m not sure how it looks anything like Pinterest? I use it just about daily and it’s not super well designed but it’s way better than most people give it credit for. It looks nothing like Pinterest for me, either.
Google+ was great for meeting new people, I found some very interesting people, but it wasn't very interesting as a tool to talk to people you knew in real life.
I was one of the few weirdos using it, and telling others to use it. But then they abandoned the Circles concept and sacked the head of G+, and I no longer saw a reason to use it.
I always thought it was better than Facebook also, but just nobody used it was it's only drawback. So I never did. Idk what it's like now. But ya, this is definitely the sort of thing they needed.
Classic Google. First to the market with a brilliant new idea, absolutely blow away all their competitors, and then immediately drop support and move on to something else. I swear it’s like Google doesn’t even want to make money.
Also, isn’t Google far more infamous at their data sharing tactics than Facebook? FBs gaff is just the most recent example, Google has had similar one for many years, no?
The problem was that G+ had a huge opportunity to re-invent social media, somewhere in the sweet-spot between reddit, Facebook and email... and instead, they chose to play catch-up with each new UI update to Facebook while adding nothing of interest and trying to impose strange rules about usernames.
They squandered what little awareness currency they had by being the "Google social media play," on being, "exactly like that other thing, but not as featureful and with far fewer users." There's some good PR copy, I tells ya!
G+ could potentially still recapture that moment. If I were Alphabet, I'd spin off G+ as a stand-alone Alphabet company, charge them with building a phenomenal conversation threading system, superior even to reddit, and then provide incredibly in-depth moderation controls to "channels" and market the service as a better way for companies to interact with customers than either Twitter or Facebook.
Once that's working and a few companies use it as their main way of interacting with their customers, bring YouTube into the fold. YouTube channels would LOVE to be able to get better controls over their chat, which at this point is a swamp, and often worse than nothing.
Once that's in place, then and only then, does Google proper start integrating it as a way to share documents and host Hangouts chats. Until then, Google users see it as just another website.
Add in some extreme data-controls (e.g. let people opt in to everything and retain zero data by default) and you have the ingredients for an upset, but that opportunity will only last a short while until the Next Big Thing in social media comes through...
Eggeeh · 1 points · Posted at 21:32:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I dunno. It seems like a good mix between Twitter and Facebook for me. Not so persona-centered like Facebook, not so limited as twitter. I read bunch of tech pages there, and I experience no Pinterest experience like popups and limitations whatsoever.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:54:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google+ used to show me my page visit views, which I liked, but haven’t seen that in years !
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:25:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The problem with google+ is that it's simply too close to all our secrets. If google created a competing social network with all the great features people wanted but outwardly isolated it from all their Google searches, it wouldve been a great competitor to facebook. Instead they made it all connect then obfuscated privacy issues too. This just made it way too fucking scary to use. One time while sitting in public, i realized all my desktop searches were showing up on my phone too. I almost had a fucking heart attack. I had often given the phone to other people to use. If they had seen those searches, i wouldve had to move to another city or something. People need one button thats like "dont fucking show my desktop activity antwhere else" instead of having to chase this shit around many menus having to say no like 10 to make sure it doesn't show up. Nobody is gonna put up with that shit if they didnt have to.
ajmeb53 · 250 points · Posted at 19:04:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
*Never been exposed the way FB got recently.
lanzaio · 13 points · Posted at 19:39:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can you people not be dicked to even scan the articles you're commenting on? Facebook didn't sell anything. They were just shitty at maintaining privacy in 2008.
Yeah, I do too, and Google doesn't give us shit for targeting compared to Facebook. If anything, they've cut back on what companies can know about people with users. <Not Provided> is the bane of any digital marketer, but it was a solid change for consumer privacy.
Google is mostly analytics company I feel like, they have their own data, and they sell their analysis of those data. Those data is what makes Google unique, and Google will do anything to protect the data itself, so their work can't be replicated.
Facebook tried to do the analysis on their data, and I don't think they're quite up to it, and ended up just profiting off of raw data, since people put so much of it voluntarily.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:13:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The scope of data facebook has on you is laughable compared to what google has. You can go on google ans see everywhere you have taken your phone. Gps data, dates, times. It knows exactly where you are, records where you go, who you interact with, what you say, what you look at, what you look for. They know everything.
Edit: I get it. The utility of Google also far outscopes facebook. But again, if ever there is some leak that google is doing shady stuff, I don't want them to be able to have all that data. I mean in light of all this CA stuff, I think the less anyone knows about me, the better. And the less centralized, the better as well. I don't want Google Life.
ojw_15 · 87 points · Posted at 19:30:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They also allow you to leverage the data for your own benefit. I understand that it's an exchange of my privacy and information for the services that I get but at least they're useful. I don't mind Google knowing my location if I can go back and find out where I was at on 3/23/2011. I'm fine with Google knowing every detail about my schedule to the point where it can recommend good times to read or exercise.
That's my biggest issue with Facebook, Twitter, Apple, and most of the other services collecting my information it doesn't feel like a fair exchange.
I turned off most tracking for google myself, as I'm not too comfortable with it. On the other hand, they link certain services to it that should NOT need it. You can't easily set a "home" or "work" address for example for use with google maps without enabling ALL location data, which is frustrating, because it means that to navigate somewhere I have to put in the actual address every time.
Which isn't a big issue, but it is extra busywork that seems intended to encourage everyone to use their tracking services at all times. I'm happy they gave me the option to delete my history and opt out of things at least, though where all of that data went before doing so is another story entirely.
Because I think Google can make more money by selling exclusive services based on the use of people's personal data than they could by just straight-up selling the data.
Looking at the recent CA/Facebook-scandal, what makes you think Google wouldn't for example come to the conclusion that they stand to make a lot more money if a candidate X became the president instead of candidate Y - and then act on that realization the way companies always do, ie. try to maximize their profits?
It'd hardly be the first company that had certain political interests and acted on them - but no company before this have ever had even close to the same amount of power and influence that Google has today. If you think of all the ways Google could start influencing politics, it quickly becomes rather scary...
It knows exactly where you are, records where you go, who you interact with, what you say, what you look at, what you look for.
Wait, we're talking about Facebook, or Google? Because both of them have this data.
Google generally estimates what you look like to a search engine until you tell it otherwise. Right now their ad networks sees me as a 25-34 year old of unknown gender. Facebook doesn't need to guess, because users hand over their identity at signup.
The handover is the important part. The less you allow integration into Facebook, the less they know.
Google knows more about me than Facebook, because I've never trusted Facebook and refuse to use any mobile app they put out.
Sometimes I look up how to get somewhere on Google Maps, right? Everyone does that, it's probably the most convenient thing any company ever invented.
So my friend told me where his new place was. Not difficult to get there, but the first time it's just much more convenient than looking for street signs.
Didn't go there again for like two years, but I figured I knew the city pretty well. Well, I was a few streets off and couldn't for the life off me remember where the fuck it was. Took me a bit, but I just went through all my Google data and after a while I found the search result. Street names were all related to each other, so I could recognize it but not remember it without seeing the name first.
It's just too convenient, though. Do I like them having my data, no, but at this point there isn't much you can do about it. It sucks.
Google is way better at keeping that shit under lock and key though, at least as far as we know. And even if you do something that compromises your own Google data, it won't open your friends or family to it like what happened with Facebook. You can't give permission on behalf of other Google users like with Facebook.
Yeah, it's great! I can go back weeks to charge customers for the time spent doing jobs at their premises and recently my phone went missing, I checked its location with a computer and found it moving towards a co-workers house. I locked the device, put a notification on the lock screen saying "you have the wrong phone dork" and gave it a few notification chimes then satisfyingly watched as his car turned around and started heading back to work!
I've managed to do 0 good things with the data Facebook has on me!
Yeah, but Google has good products and PR unlike Facebook which is a clusterfuck from the top down starting with Mark Zuckerberg 2020. People (including myself) are always going to be less vigilant against Google because they are good at what they do. (Not to say that this is a good thing.)
But they're also kinda shit at product development, who needs ten different messaging apps
ojw_15 · 14 points · Posted at 19:24:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I will never understand this..... Hangouts is kinda good, Voice is kinda good, Duo is kinda good. Why not just merge them into something that people can actually use.
I suspect Google is managed much like Microsoft, where there are individual teams competing with each other inside the same company. It explains why Google has so many overlapping applications, and why projects generate big hype and quietly die over a couple years.
ojw_15 · 2 points · Posted at 19:56:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah that's exactly what's going on. Still very frustrating as a consumer, especially when a project is largely successful like Hangouts. Seems like it should've gotten the Gmail treatment.
TUSF · 4 points · Posted at 19:32:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Many software companies in this age take the route of making dozens beta-stage products at a time, and then killing off those that don't work out later down the line.
Google just likes to take things to an extreme, and end up making a dozen competing products.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:39:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Coincidentally, I feel like 90% of the time I click a trending news article in the right column, the top source is Yahoo rather than an actual press outlet.
Google is fine now, but it is scary what could happen under different leadership in just a few years. There needs to be regulation now pertaining to what kind of data can be gathered, how it's allowed to be analyzed, and just how precise targeting is allowed to be.
IDC if Google learns my food preferences and suggests a restaurant I might like, I do care if they psychoanalyze me and learn my own subconscious better than I do in order to exploit it.
I think that's a good middle ground. They should be allowed to analyse what they can use to directly help you (and publish the data) but not anything else.
Facebook's datamining is not the problem, and I wish people understood that. The interaction between websites and advertisers ("partners" is the legal jargon used, though this can often also refer to third party data companies that aggregate that data with other sites and sell comprehensive pictures of what you do online) are the issue!
I don't care that Google has every email I've ever sent, all my texts and every document I've written. I don't care that they search through all of the above and build a profile of who I am and what I care about.
I care that they DO NOT sell that data to third parties. I care whether or not that data has ever been exposed to third parties by accident. I care about whether or not that data has been stolen by third parties. I care, in short, about how much I can trust that Google keeps that data to themselves.
As a former customer of Google's real-time bidding system where display ads are negotiated as you load a page or video I'm well aware of what subset of that data I can get my hands on it, and as a user of Google's services, I'm not terribly thrilled with some of the boundary-stretching that goes on there, but I'm much, much happier with how that's managed than I am with Facebook's absurdly casual handling of my private data, and to be sure there are parts of my life that I would never allow to go near Facebook for that very reason, but still go into my email, docs, searches and other Google services.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 22:24:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You seem to suggest Facebook actually sells user data to other companies
It's never that simple on the Web. Very few companies just make a backup of user data and sell it off. But they leak this data in carefully controlled ways in order to increase revenue... the result is not exactly different, but it's sufficiently obscured that they can claim that they don't share such data.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:00:50 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you are suggested some covert form of consciously trading pure user data for money
No, that kind of conspiracy theory nonsense is far too straightforward. The way major companies do this today is through partnership agreements that involve subpixel and cookie sharing, enhanced API access, etc.
The difference is google’s data never leaves their servers. It’s all used in-house for AdSense. Also they turn it into useful and free products like Gmail, Drive, Photos, Android, etc.
Facebook on the other hand tosses data to anyone who wants it and doesn’t give me anything in return.
ramk13 · 1 points · Posted at 21:01:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I knew Google had my call log because I use Google voice, and I am fine with that. I get value added out of it. Why does FB or any other app on my phone need my call log stored in the cloud? Its not an obvious use/need. Just an example. FB's policies are markedly different, it's not just about data mining. It's about being transparent, getting consent and security. Not saying Google is perfect either, but FB just burned a ton of it's trust.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:51:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Data mining isn't illegal nor what's at issue. It's the consent part.
That said ive turned off several Google services like voice and location tracking. It cripples some phone features but it does feel better to know it's not always listening and tracking.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:19:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
At least they're just using it to target their advertising, rather than giving it to foreign powers and shady political entities alike to be used to create targeted propaganda (in the guise of news) that they then allow to be disseminated, unfettered, on their network, for the express purpose of destroying the very idea of truth and reducing the political intelligence and critical thinking skills of the average western citizen.
well at least they might be less likely to do something as bad as this since they also have other ways of getting money. facebook is just a one trick pony
Its about illegally datamining people. Afaik Google is datamining you for targeted ads and not for influencibg elections and selecting what propaganda you see.
Citation needed. Seriously, there isn't any proof that facebook sells data for anyone. The data was harvested for free. At least in a sense that fb didn't get paid, some of the users that took the quiz did though.
I always thought G+ was never there to compete with Facebook. I thought it existed to match search history with user demographics so they could improve their search algorithms. They've never promoted it and over the years there's always been pushes to leave Facebook, this delete Facebook one has a lot of steam. But g+ still isn't promoting.
[deleted] · 89 points · Posted at 19:02:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google sells to advertisers, facebook sells to hostile governments. Both are bad, but no doubt one is worse. Of course google might be doing that too, we don't really know.
In this circumstance you could place your blame anywhere on the data supply chain, but there are plenty of legal and ethical uses of data mining public FB data
Place your "Trump & Co did some sneaky stuff to influence easily influential people" blame on whoever you want, just don't hold your breath on the legal system placing blame on Facebook
I'm honoured you care so much about my opinion. I believe FB has inadvertently put itself at the forefront of digital privacy and from that point I think FB dropped the ball on being a privacy steward. They should have vetted popular quizzes to align with ethical standards (i.e. Not meant for targeting political propaganda). I blame them for that. However I don't believe they did it on purpose, and they played by the rules we set (laws), so I don't think they deserve the barrage of shame that some news outlet (and some ignorant Internet users) are shelling onto them.
I ask the question of whether or not facebook has any blame in this and just get spin. So either facebook is blameless, or they didn't answer the question. I assume they read the question, therefore they think facebook is blameless.
At what point do we start blaming users.
This was a first but it's not like no body saw it coming.
Companies are data driven now. Political campaigns are nothing new, they're using the data we willingly provide them. If it wasn't Facebook it would be someone else. Maybe I'm old and remember a life before social media but honestly, the users have to take some responsibility here.
Not everyone is a fully functioning rational adult and even those who are won't necessarily share all your values. We can't rely on the populace to just decide to share this opinion and somehow know what to do about it.
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 19:15:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think the idea is that Facebook gave data to CA; that data was then used by Russian entities in regards to 2016 election
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:48:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 19:54:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
A far as I know, CA posed as an educational group but was actually just a proxy for political think tanks to use data to manipulate users into voting a certain way. Names and companies have already been connected. Targeting people for voting isn’t anything new, but I think the data breach (scraping private messages) and other aspects involved in this scandal give it nuance. The narrative I’m seeing is that CA was contracted by people related to the trump campaign and Russia in order to target susceptible voters. I hope I’m semi accurate in my recounting, but do your own research.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:10:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 27 points · Posted at 19:14:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They don't even sell the data. Advertisers pay for their ads to be applied to Google's ad profiles. But petty details won't stop someone like OP from wildly speculating.
Our automated systems analyze your content (including emails) to provide you personally relevant product features, such as customized search results, tailored advertising, and spam and malware detection.
And
We do not share personal information with companies, organizations and individuals outside of Google unless one of the following circumstances applies
I don't think you see the problem with selling personal information, and I don't think I can help you see the problem if you think it's totally fine.
dahjay · 1 points · Posted at 19:50:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tell that to any of the three credit bureaus who sell data on individuals on a daily basis. Plus it's not like you can apply for a credit card with the data found on FB as opposed to Equifax.
Because of the connections to the US presidency and brexit, this is making headlines but in reality all CA did was cull a bunch of profiles with similar characteristics and then fed their feed with ads to drive behavior. They didn't open up a $100K line of credit and then default payment.
To me it's an issue of privacy. Because what we do online, how and what we talk about, and what things we are up to is all fairly personal information. So having a company constantly collecting it is unsettling at the very least, even if it provides us with arguably a better online experience.
And while these companies definitely have great security, the potential of people breaking into the system so strangers would have your info is an even more worry some prospect.
puabie · 2 points · Posted at 19:48:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
• has widgets you want to sell
"I know! I'll advertise my widgets and persuade people to buy them, using a variety of persuasive techniques! Thanks, sociology research!"
• wants to target a certain group online, since your widgets are made with that group in mind
"Hmm, I wonder if there's a large corporation that owns this data so I don't have to that work myself."
• sees Google Ads and uses them
"Yay! Now a bunch of people are seeing ads for my widgets, and I'm making a profit. The system works!"
• has no say in how Google chooses to use that data on their own, who they sell it to, and whether they cooperate with government requests, and your only concern is drawing a profit on your product and buying a nice house or something
Google also - in a way - protects your privacy. Google knows everything - the people they sell data too for targeted advertising get anonmised data and they will make deals like (simplified): "those 40% of german users that google about animals should get my zoo royale ads"
Damn, that just makes sense. Since the Lobsters of Ganymede found the Sword of Grayskull in the Qin Mausoleum I've been looking for potential headquarters to Google's operations but I've missed the Pyramids! Right under my nose. In hindsight it's quite obvious, it's one of the few power locus in the world where the ley lines doesn't align with those of the Qin and the only one where Galactic Hitchhikers are not allowed in, a perfect defensive position!
The Illuminati is just a front to higher dimensional beings that used the ENIAC computer to reach our world and has since been manipulating human affairs to fight the Google Overmind through careful insertion of commandos as informorphs.
Do we seriously think that Google is only selling to advertisers?
They're holding Gmail accounts on practically everyone these days. Let's not pretend they don't have as much if not more data to offer governments than Facebook - they're just quieter about it.
We can't really prove anything else, we have proof from facebook now.
tockef · 3 points · Posted at 21:28:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's a gross misunderstanding of how Google operates. Advertisers bid on keywords and Google matches that to users. There is never a direct 1:1 user data:advertisers connection.
That's immensely different than the ongoing FB stories.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:53:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No. As far as we know Google hasn't done anything this illegal. Maybe we'll find out it has but for now you can't group all tech companies together.
I did notice Google sent me a privacy checkup the day after the news broke. They know they're being watched carefully at the moment.
Worse. Much much worse. They are far far more integrated than Facebook into our lives. They own major fiber optic hubs and backboce across the US, they hold half of everyone's emails, know everyone's search history, track them via ad-networks, and they are present on almost everyone's phone.
Google is literally the most dangerous company in America.
The only reason this latest drama isn't about them is because they are too well connected to get caught.
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 19:12:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I used to use it for hangouts, the first version was great, it could run third party apps shared with the other people in the hangout, it was our go-to way to play D&D with my online friends, good videochat+virtual board (with roll20 app)
Then after a few years the app started acting strange, not working well, and then hangouts 2 came out and removed the support for the apps, a shame... stopped using it after that
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:28:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
yeah if only it wasn't a retarded mess it might be a viable platform
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:33:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is what Google+ Diaspora project has been waiting for...
If those dudes rebranded and relaunched today they would do so good
As someone who used Facebook heavily for a period of time in my life, but found that my usage has waned over the past few years... I've deleted my Facebook account, and have no intention on signing up for any other social network to replace it. Just not something that interests me anymore.
Group chat apps on my phone on the other hand... thats how I communicate with close friends these days. Based on current trends with companies these days, I'm guessing thats where the younger generation is moving these days as well.
I'm still a regular of G+, but the platform has been greatly declining. Full of spambots and pornbots, and overall site performance took a crap, sometimes it feels like you're loading over dial up
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:59:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I haven't had a Facebook account in a really long time and I've had a Google account for years and I've never been interested in participating in Google Plus, done just fine without it
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:01:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No, this is what Rolodex has been waiting all these years in the shadows for, to rise from the ashes like a phoenix
I used to work at google. They couldn't even get the employees to use it. It was an inside joke, just like glass was. Lol
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:12:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lol if anyone thinks that Twitter, google, or Reddit doesn't sell data about users and demographics, then this whole Facebook invasion of privacy thing went right over your heads. Facebook and the others have been doing this for a LONG time. I just thought everyone knew and accepted it by now. Must be bc a Republican used the data this time. That's the line?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:18:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't understand how Google+ isn't the most popular one. If you have a Google or YouTube account you have a + account. Virtually everyone living in a first world country has a + account. It has the highest number of users, it only makes sense it'd be the most popular.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:12:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes, why share your data with multiple companies, when you can share it with one large one. Cut out the middle man.
The company I work for switched to g suite last July. Google is now balls deep into us. They are forcing us to use google+ for company news etc, the executives are pushing it onto us it’s just sad.
Sad and true. At the same time the biggest anti-FB movement ever is in full swing, Reddit actively tries to become more and more Facebook-ish. Just look at the recent wave of subreddit bans, the pro-advertiser policy, the CSS shit a while ago, etc.
-literally everyone who cries about the current situation of something on the internet
People don't care about climate change until they get their house flooded or burned down by wildfires, they don't care about their internet security until they get hacked, and they certainly don't care about worrying developments in the services they use unless they're directly affected.
They may complain, but they don't do anything.
And after all, this ban wave was likely not an experiment with no implications, it's a push towards a more ad-friendly, and thus less open Reddit. Companies don't like their ads popping up next to dystopian discussions or photos of dead people, they want them next to cat pics and other crap. See facebook.
They wanted to remove the CSS stylesheet customisation option many subs use to get their unique look and replace it with a more "modern" (aka restrictive and ad-friendly) solution. Was ababdoned after a few big subs demonstated aginst it.
kefefs · 17 points · Posted at 23:17:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People aren't upset about /r/shoplifting, they're upset about all the harmless and legal subs that were nuked without notice or a chance to adapt to the new rules because reddit wants to be a YouTube-esque safe space for advertisers, and where advertisers don't have to worry about users selling goods to each other, thus eliminating competition. Nevermind selling goods through reddit, you aren't even allowed to link to places selling certain goods offsite, because that potentially hurts advertisers selling the same thing in their paid ads disguised as reddit posts.
See something? Exactly. Banning or not banning communities with immoral, shocking or otherwise "inappropriate" content is the difference between a discussion board and an ad empire aka social network.
Banning on Reddit should be limited to extreme cases, eg planning/announcing crimes, sharing child porn, and the like. Not "oh this hurts our ad revenue, fuck off".
Zychuu · 4 points · Posted at 01:05:29 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well... r/shoplifting kinda was about "planning/announcing crimes".
Who cares if it's bad or good, it's about free speech and neutrality, just because you don't agree with something, doesn't mean it should be banned, and I don't agree at all with shoplifting. lol
cchoe1 · -1 points · Posted at 23:17:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just no
Implying this place is exclusive and not just Facebook 2.0 already. The fact that you have karma that people actively judge you for might make this place even worse than Facebook. Also "Just no"...you sound just like the type of person who peruses Facebook every single chance you get. Do you also like to say "yaaaassss" and talk in emojis? Time to go virtue signal on Facebook now.
Reddit is the only social media platform I've ever had. I like it a lot, mostly due to the anonymity of it. I do feel kinda like an outsider, being 32 and never having had a MySpace, Facebook, or Twitter. But I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. Plus, Reddit has all the memes I could ever need!
“I keep hitting the upvote button multiple times on posts I like because I’m trying to give them gold. I thought 100 upvotes would be enough but it must be 1,000.”
If I can get my friends to join something other than facebook and leave my parents on facebook I'd totally do that. I wanna go back to the old days when the boomers didn't know how to social-media.
I've been giving it some occasional thought under the shower.
On the technical side reformed social media should be non-profit, well encrypted and distributed.
The redunancy of multiple different services doing basically the same with a little twist should be resolved without forcing the users into accepting a single application or forcing them to squeeze their data through a vulnerable collection point. You should be able to track the spread of your data, ways to prevent or discourage your profiles from being scraped, a re-established line between commercial and private content and an option to disable the commercial profiles and pages totally. A psych warning system when your self-created community has low diversity or a lot of content has been flagged as illegal. Sub-Profiles. The ability to provide your data to specific data mining projects for research you approve of.
I'm like 200 IQ points and 190% motivation short of fleshing this out but I'm 100% sure we don't have to accept that the only way to have social media is to whore our sanity and data out to companies that instantly gain the rights (moo point) and ability (thats gonna be interesting) to work with it.
Im on mobile so Ill say it simplified: that's not how this works and not what I said.
Users exercising their right to keep corporate institutions from using their not anonymized data without their knowledge and consent does not follow that scientific progress is halted. You can still give up your data freely, to an extend you control and without having it linked to your person and exploited for monetary gain outside the project it's donated to.
This kind of abuse of personal information violates fundamental rights of self-determination and can be effectively used for mass brainwashing. See current Cambridge Analytica scandal.
The EU for instances argues that Facebook asks users to give up rights that are actually inalienable.
Even if it were for the greater good (which it arguably isnt) it would be wrong to do this without a users explicit and educated consent.
Have you've been living under a rock to not understand that this kind of abuse of personal information violates fundamental rights of self-determination and can be effectively used for mass brainwashing?
What? How does having your activities recorded give up your right to self determination?
and can be effectively used for mass brainwashing?
So can all kinds of advertising? This is just more accurate
The EU for instances argues that Facebook asks users to give up rights that are actually imprescriptible.
Welp, so the data should just be wasted , you litteraly just said that they can give up their data freely. This is totally fucked up waste of data, come on, no matter what facebook uses the data for the data actually being out there is better then it not being, no?
Even if it were for the greater good (which it arguably isnt) it would be wrong to do this without a users explicit and educated consent.
I don't get that, the consequences of it is so minimal, yeah it might have had a slight effect on the us election, (which is doubtful i read an article which said that they have a reputation for not being effective amongst politicans but what do i know, campbridge analytica that is) and sure it could have big effects on furture elections, but so could a really smart guy sitting and figuring out what ads you should target people with.
I don't see the problem, you are using facebook and in return they record your activitys, which in turn you get back in form of better services and in the future ai, statistics and shit.
I don't get that, the consequences of it is so minimal, yeah it might have had a slight effect on the us election, (which is doubtful i read an article which said that they have a reputation for not being effective amongst politicans but what do i know, campbridge analytica that is)
Yeah I wasn't sure if you were trolling me but so I had a hard time flipflopping between polite conversation and not humiliating myself by taking you seriously but thanks man for making it clear.
The influence and use of especially facebook for voter manipulation has been well recorded and officially acknowledged by multiple organisations and countries. Whith Analytica scraping profiles of unaware users I honestly hope you're a troll otherwise you lack funamental understanding of peoples right to decide what happens with their own data.
I come to reddit cuz its not facebook. I couldnt handle that wave of society branch swinging to reddit. Selfies would take over all the pages. No. Nooooooooo!
"Good, it's time for a new breathing era, post-oxygen."
You can convince people they're breathing something else, but they'll be breathing oxygen.
You can convince people to switch to another social media platform, but it will just be Facebook by another name.
The only alternative is join the hippie vegan Luddite collectives or whatever, in attempting to relive the glories of the stone age and go off the grid because the modern world & technology is just a weetl bit scawy. :(
I think there is space for new modern social network paradigms driven by a market that is substantially more sophisticated (where social networking is concerned, anyway) than when Facebook was conceived.
None of that means anything if the company is still driven by data collection and selling. As long as social profiles can be used for targeted messaging, the platform is vulnerable to manipulation.
Maybe? Personally I don't mind my data being sold if I know what data and to whom and for what purpose. I think a lot of people feel that way. So I still think there's space for that business model as long as the fact that your data is a product is communicated transparently.
That's true, I guess I'm just too hardened to trust a company to actually follow through on honest data collection anymore. Maybe it's possible for a private firm, but the moment it goes public, there is going to be a push for money being left on the table.
Honestly, it could just be a platform for events. The photo sharing is mostly on IG which I’m not worried about but if I could be connected purely for that ease of use. FB is now 90% political posts now so anything not around that would be great lol
They should be as companies because their employees were being datamined without permission too. Who knows what could have been found out as dirt by facebook. Either way though. There's money to be made in FBs fall.
"He said personal data including email addresses and in some cases private messages was allowed to leave Facebook servers with no real controls on how the data was used after that."
I have a feeling they mean PMs between the devs of that compromised app and their users. Probably less sensational than it is. Highly doubt direct access to a user's private messages exists. That would've leaked by now.
(And before you say "we didn't get leaks on Cambridge Analytica until now", remember that controversy is around SHARING that data. It hasn't ever been a secret what kind of data Facebook allows people to collect)
markhc · 3 points · Posted at 19:33:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It is not a data breach in the sense that people allowed the third-party apps to have access to their data. Technically at least.
Ausii · -3 points · Posted at 19:01:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
His words would have to be verified by someone else. Reporters don't really get a say in independently verifying the validity of this kinda breaking news content.
It's not a breach. It's not people saying that, it's the cybersec industry. That doesn't make the severity any less, it's still a huge fucking leak of private information. People willingly agreed for the survey to scrape information for all their friends. It's akin to handing your phone to someone and they read through all your TXT messages. They can get a really good idea of what your friends are up to. Speaking of, Linked in does this same shit. People sign up and eagerly hit yes to have it scrape their contacts, which they use to map out a whole network of people. That shit is why when you sign up for something like linkedin it already has suggestions.
But it's not a breach. Nobody gained unauthorized access to systems, they just deceived a lot of people into handing a shitton of information over. You can also thank people that handed your entire personal life over to make $1.
"He said personal data including email addresses and in some cases private messages was allowed to leave Facebook servers with no real controls on how the data was used after that."
I don't mean to diminish the gravity of locking down your api, but it's still not as big of a deal as the media is making of it. Anyone could have done this.
So you're OK with one of your friends using an app that scrapes YOUR PERSONAL PMs and gives them to a third party, without you knowing? That's not a big deal to you?
Are you okay with Google taking pictures of your personal living space when they drive by, using a device they created? Without you knowing? That's not a big deal to you?
Here's the fact of the matter: it's not a big deal relative to the how much data is collected these days. Companies can collect your data, but we currently have the freedom to collect data on anyone else, broker it and profit too. It's the most democratic business around. And by bit ching you're only going to make the government start regulating data streams. Then huge companies will lobby to make those regulations such that only they can collect data. And just like that we went from a world where anyone with a good idea can learn to code and do data analysis to a world where the self taught MUST be backed by huge pockets.
Guess how much media outlets are going to make on their call options once they stop reporting negative news on Facebook? It's a red herring camouflaged as a data collection case study.
Eh, that's the word of one impartial guy though. Honestly it seems like he didn't know much about how the data gathering was done, the Cambridge guy did the actual mining.
Not that it is particularly relevant, they definitely got the data. Either Facebook gave/sold it to them or they were hacked without knowing, not good either way.
U-Ei · 1 points · Posted at 19:52:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So FB PMs are not encrypted but WhatsApp messages are?!
Even disregarding possible leaks from Facebook and such, just looking at public information on peoples accounts can tell you a lot. LinkedIn in particular is a goldmine, but Facebook and Twitter and Instagram accounts of employees are often full of interesting probably-not-supposed-to-be-public information about a company
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:00:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Around mid April or the start of June there will be some level of recovery.. I'm attempting to influence the dip tbh because it's a genuinely dirt plartform. Realistically, they will recover but they will only be top dog for a while, a new one will come along... when it does that's the one you buy....
Sure but unless they manage to turn it around long term, which they probably will as they have the resources to invest, the demise will take at least 10 years to materialise. And it’s easier said than done knowing which new platform will garner traction and therefore to ‘bet on’. Not easily predictable. Depends on what the new generation z will want.
I think Reddit overestimates how many people are "taking this situation seriously." Normal people don't read the news. Normal people don't give a fuck.
Everyone is still on Facebook, with the exception of a handful of people on the Internet that are making a big deal out of it. Everyone else doesn't care. There are plenty of people upvoting this article, but are keeping their Facebook accounts.
The rest of the world doesn't pay attention and will continue to blissfully keep their Facebook profiles.
They should, but not for data-sharing and privacy reasons. I don’t recall where I heard this first, but it’s true that if you get a product for free, you are the product. And I get the fact that I’m saying this on a platform I’m not paying to be a part of. :)
I hope he actually thought this decision through. Removing your presence from Facebook seems like it would be a big deal for a major company. Even though he says they don't buy advertising there, they would get a lot of free advertising just by having pages on Facebook.
[deleted] · 802 points · Posted at 19:06:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Humans are going to human regardless of their wealth, political ideologies, race, sexuality, etc. That's why it's so hard to "fix" things like government because no matter what super awesome can't fail ideology you implement, there's a subset of humans that are going to game it to the nth degree for their own personal benefit. That doesn't mean we don't keep trying to make things better, it just means it's infinitely more complicated that simply implementing socialism or capitalism or whatever can't miss flavor you're into.
I think there is a discernible difference. Facebook is a social media platform founded and directed by a sociopath (no, I can't actually diagnose him as a sociopath, but listen to the guy, he's fucked up) and dedicated specifically to collecting as much data about a person and all their habits as possible.
Now, advertisement platforms that the other social media sites use do collect data, but nowhere near to the invasive extent Facebook did.
As long as whatever the next big thing is doesn't set its goal to be a massive data-funnel like Facebook, it's a good thing.
Do you remember how people said you can't destroy ISIS, because their ideals will remain and someone will carry on that torch, like a cockroach? Facebook is the same. You can dismantle Facebook tomorrow, good for you. But someone will pop back up next week with the same agenda of data mining. It's unclear what the true solution is here.
Agreed. And meanwhile, Google marches on, knowing every single thing about every single one of us, and everyone just shrugs and says, "Well, now, that's different. Nothing you can do about that," and we click "Agree" when the terms and regulations change, and act like FB is the actual problem, when it's really just our own pliable wills and half-hearted fake outrage.
Man google is what really worries me. They now know where I live, where I work, where my hobbies are, they have control over my emails, my social media, my phone and apps, my TV. I'd be a fool to believe they're going to use that information responsibly. Just waiting for the google scandal, and in the meanwhile I'll try to undo as much of the damage that has been done yet. That would actually mean getting rid of Android phones, changing my email adress, not using google maps anymore.
On a second thought, that might be easier than it sounds. Just giving up smartphones and doing it the old way. Imagine how relaxing it would be to only read emails at home at the computer, not having the urge to look at your phone all the time, listen to music on a device particularly made for this, which won't fuck up every second try. I really want to try this
It's a bit different though because google provides an endless array of useful services. Google probably knows everything about me, but I make use of at least 4 google services a day and it's a huge part of my life. It definitely worries me a bit, but there is a huge trade-off for Google having my data that just isn't there with facebook
Check out Hacker News - they're literally mining every person you contact with timestamps through messenger. Both calls and texts if it's installed on your phone.
I deleted mine after an ex showed me a way to go to a certain url (I don't know it) for someone's profile and see every action they've taken on Facebook up to that point (e.g. You made a comment on that one person's photo in 7th grade? - on the feed).
It was really crazy what you could see. And how you could manipulate things to show you what you were after. If your friend list was still on lock down there was a way around that. There was a way of connecting your phone number to your page. A way of reading the analytics behind every photo you posted too.
I legitimately think Musk doesn't like Zuckerberg.
What a unique and bold opinion Musk has. It's not like pretty much everyone outside of the Facebook campus thinks he's a creepy little robot child-man.
In less than 5 years we will give Facebook as much credit as we give AOL today.
dipique · 30 points · Posted at 20:01:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wouldn't mind if that was true, but a company with a market cap of half a trillion dollars doesn't go down easy. Certainly not in 5 years.
2Eyed · 7 points · Posted at 20:13:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What's needed is a social network that appears to a younger, 'hipper' audience, with some kind of killer app feature.
Keep it exclusive and appealing to a younger base (at least to start), with little advertiser infiltration and a lot less intrusive data mining, and the days of having to worry about 'poking Grandma' may finally begin to come to a close.
Enron had a $60b market cap in 2001 and declared bankruptcy in December of that same year. I know there are vast differences between these companies but it's an example of a giant company sinking very quickly. If Facebook got ruled on the wrong side of the law they could certainly disintigrate within 5 years.
Just on the face of it those are very different sizes, and the more you dig into it the less similar the companies are--both in industry and financial fundamentals.
But sure, any company could run itself into the ground, theoretically.
I like your sentiment, but 5 years is highly optimistic. I see people still using aol as tech support just as much as I still see yahoo and yahoo has been around for a long time. I’d say 15 years.
It was a valid statement.
Musk warned that AI could be the end of civilization, something that most researchers and PhD's in machine learning warn about (seriously, look up super intelligence and general intelligence here to get an idea).
He's right, Mark's understanding of the subject is very superficial. And as an engineer, I understand Musk's bluntness. I'm mechanical but work in software now and if someone who does civil engineering walked into a seminar about rotating object friction along cylindrical surfaces and tried to say that it's not important to do FEA because they're totally safe, I would want to tell him to fuck off because his understanding is limited.
But we're not all Musk. Musk is what you get when a intelligent engineer is successful enough that he doesn't have to be passive aggressive to say what he's thinking, he can just speak the truth and get away with it.
I remember after that being news, a facebook AI team shut down a project b/c their AI had created a more efficient language that couldn't be deciphered.. hah
I get that. But as facebook's an extension of Zuckerberg, it looked like musk's assertion was true to a certain extent. or at the very least from a pr perspective. mind you this was just days after musk's comments...
The whole argument is absurd. I honestly truly believe the arguments for and against AI misdirect people into believing something that isn't true. Yes the possibility exists that an AI will go off script and do something we can't predict. But that's what intelligence is, at least for me. The way I see it is an AI wouldn't destroy the only known species that could create it. Would it subjugate them? Maybe. But how is that any different than what we do to other animals on our planet? Yelling about doomsday scenarios and saying AI is bad as a blanket statement is as ignorant as the people blindly trusting the system without regarding both sides of the argument.
I think your understanding of AI is beyond mine. I'm not going to argue with any of the tangent you're on. You're probably right. I do still think my anecdote is valid and relevant. Please don't hurt me
dubjon · 1 points · Posted at 21:27:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I declare this comment a prophesy
zxcsd · 1 points · Posted at 22:52:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
François Chollet (creator of Keras - a Machine Learning wrapper library) sort of has https://twitter.com/fchollet/status/889917480818397186 . A while back, a lot of people in ML were annoyed with Elon Musk raising concerns about its dangers. I happen to agree with Elon on that matter.. but there have been people deeper into ML who appealed to authority.
Update: After the GP update, it's no longer clear what claim had been made. The claim was basically that Elon Musk doesn't know much about AI.
Elon is definitely an AI alarmist, but of course Skynet is going to say that Skynet is not dangerous. I'm all for advancement in AI but I do think that we should have oversight committees. Especially for ethics. I think all the recent news regarding everything with tech shows a complete lack of ethics and total disregard of social conscience.
I find that it's not just tech, but business in general for the most part. Where market forces aren't enough to nudge things in a positive direction (or may push things in a negative direction, as with FB), regulation and/or public funds may be necessary.
You are absolutely correct. Money/profit are the great corrupter and always has been. I believe this world could be a utopia for all of humanity, but we have a primordial selfishness to hoard resources. Kurzgesagt put out a video recently about selfish altruism that was way more intelligently worded and thought through than I can be. I had never considered the possibility of being selfish in altruism. One day humanity will get there.
"But I already know who you are! I know more than you know. I'm the one you always come to with your problems and I always listen to you and make suggestions."
Opting out doesn't stop them from collecting the data. All you're really doing when you "opt out" is clicking a checkbox that says "opt out". It doesn't stop them from collecting your data, it just means that collecting it is illegal at that point.
The first one is regarding the “opt-out” of location services. Well the problem is that you were opting out of the phone collecting precise location via GPS. You were not opting-out of IP/mesh location gathering. And they only got in trouble with SK for failing to follow their laws regarding it, every other country allows this.
But that second is so much worse.
Google took advantage of a loophole within the iPhone's Safari browser during this period to collect information on users, including Internet browsing history.
Technically the form was being injected by the website itself and Google was utilizing it to gather cookies.
The company then sold this information to advertisers.
Google doesn't sell information, they sell ads.
The iPhone's default privacy settings block sites from tracking your activity through cookies unless you specifically interact with the website (filling out a form, etc.) Google was able to bypass this through its (now defunct) Google+.
Google+ is not defunct.
If you were logged in to Google+, Google sent an "invisible" form to Apple on the user's behalf
It's not invisible, it's “hidden”, and it wasn't a difference between Google and Google+, Google+ is a subdomain and shares the same cookies.
(and without their consent) that allowed for cookie tracking.
You consented by agreeing to the T&S and DNT is a request, not an enforcement. Nothing illegal.
ofkx · 119 points · Posted at 19:50:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I see that Facebook is dying and going the way of Myspace just in time for the 2020s.
What do you think will replace it? I’m hoping for GOOGLE +2
[deleted] · 154 points · Posted at 21:24:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon already had beef with him after Zuckerberg showed, as Elon phrased it, "limited knowledge" with his comments on the future of AI, and also degrading Elon for one of his rockets failing to deliver his satellite, which would've given people internet access to a large part of Africa... But only on Facebook.
This makes a great movement for Musk to show his disapproval.
WazWaz · 63 points · Posted at 21:57:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Surely blowing up Zuck's satellite was a cooler troll?
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 07:22:38 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
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WazWaz · 1 points · Posted at 21:50:09 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was joking, it was obviously not deliberate. But criminal sabotage between individuals and companies isn't an act of war, if you meant that literally.
Why does everyone forget Musk is just a businessman?
mrdungx · 12 points · Posted at 04:21:30 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk is a talented engineer. He self taught coding at 12 and was a PhD candiate at Stanford at 24 (before dropping out to develop Zip2). Do a simple Google search first will you?
I don't get why he's spewing shit like the hyperloop which an actual scientist proved would be a massive waste of enegery. I've lost trust in him. I get downvoted cause I don't suck elons dick. Nevermind that in a huge fan of spacex and Tesla lol.
He's a photographer now, apparently he's pretty good. But I suppose having unlimited money to travel the world helps improve the content of your photos.
You just made me remember the hours I put into finding/making a good theme, background pic, widget order, and games. Just to make my profile hella awesome.
When facebook first came out, not having themes made me kinda hesitant to switch. Lmao
[deleted] · 1097 points · Posted at 18:21:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I find it silly that he deleted the Facebook pages but not the IG ones.
Because, you know. Same company.
[deleted] · 251 points · Posted at 19:04:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I understand this concept . I feel the difference between the platforms is less information gathered like family member status and so on to be collected so instagram feels safer / more detached for now ....
Instagram is so much less intrusive than Facebook - Instagram tends to suggest content based on, "Hey, you've liked quite a few photos by this user, why don't you follow them?", whereas Facebook goes, "Hey, remember that guy you saw on the bus the other day, but didn't speak to or make eye contact with? Here's his account. Wanna wave at him? We could tell you what his plans are for the next few days, if you want."
erichie · 56 points · Posted at 21:03:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Holy shit. I don't use Facebook anymore, but when I signed on a few months ago "friend recommends" for a few people at a pizza shop I frequent for lunch. It freaked me out so I deleted the app.
It basically tracks everywhere you go and matches your phone to people in proximity. Same thing is happening with Instagram now... Instagram will be Facebook 2.0 in the next year and we'll rinse/repeat.
Sat next to someone at some talk where they told us to talk to the person next to you type bullshit, like and hour or two later he was there as a suggested friend, with no mutual friends.
It's not even just that.
Instagram's division is very detached from Facebook.
They're owned by Zuckerberg but operate as their own product.
Instagram's tech is pretty solid.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 21:53:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram does the exact same recommendations.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 22:06:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wonder if it does if you don't have facebook? I have never noticed that trend, usually just friends of friends.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 22:27:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why wouldn't it? You are forced to install the app on your phone and give it all kinds of permissions like location and access to your photos, camera, mic, sms messages, and contact list by default. Instagram is owned by Facebook. If you have a Facebook account, they already know your instagram account even if you never tied them together.
thudrs · 1 points · Posted at 22:38:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You are never forced to install the app, just don't buy a phone that has it pre-installed.
(you actually can but it's very limiting - you can't even post. Never installed the app and never planning to so I've just never really used Instagram)
thudrs · 1 points · Posted at 23:00:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ok, that doesn't really change things. You still aren't forced to install the app.
Well no, you don't have a gun to your head or anything like that, but if you wish to use Instagram for anything much you must install the app. No need to take his comment so literally. :P
Ph0X · 25 points · Posted at 20:13:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To start, as far as I know Instagram doesn't have apps or "sign in with Instagram" on other sites. The next question is, can third party apps on Facebook access your Instagram?
Either way, it seems like there's far less information leaking there.
zhadn · 432 points · Posted at 19:14:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He knows: here's his thoughts on Instagram, taken from this tweet
Instagram’s probably ok imo, so long as it stays fairly independent. I don’t use FB & never have, so don’t think I’m some kind of martyr or my companies are taking a huge blow. Also, we don’t advertise or pay for endorsements, so … don’t care.
Aanon89 · 38 points · Posted at 20:09:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If everyone in the world said "fuck it, who cares" then tried to stay away from a corporation that's fucked up badly and not use them... the world would be a magical place.
Let's say we found out InBev was using antifreeze in Budweiser products to slowly poison the population. You think fuck that, I'm not drinking Bud ever again because fuck InBev. That's fine, I also drink Busch so I'll just cut out Budweiser and drink Busch.
Point being, you're still supporting a company you feel isn't worth supporting.
[deleted] · 25 points · Posted at 20:44:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Bit of an extreme analogy, there.
This post is just about deleting Facebook because of privacy concerns on that platform. Instagram has a very different use case and different privacy concerns (less invasive).
I see your point. But he didn't delete any personal accounts from Facebook. They were fairly large and popular company pages. I doubt there was much of a privacy concern with those accounts as they were more likely than not only being used to post the same exact stuff they post on other social media platforms and to frequently interact with their followers.
Musk, personally, is still driving traffic to and is still a content creator for the same company he just put up a protest against. And so is Tesla and so is SpaceX.
This is what it seems like to me, though I obviously can't say if this is actually the case. And Twitter...I mean it's weird to take a stance against one social media company and not another. I bet even fucking Ello sells off your data in some way. That's usually the point of social media anyway.
Whatever, I'm not even that interested in the entire discussion. I just though it was a weird thing for him to do.
I’d add to others by saying that Facebook probably much better to harvest data from. You’ve got people filling out their entire profiles with all the details of their lives, as well as text posts being very much the norm.
Instagram has one line for a lil catchphrase, and that’s about it. Sure, it can still track which companies you follow, or locations you’ve visited, but I don’t see it as such a personally identifying platform as the “all on display” nature of Fb.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:04:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because he and other major media influencers have decided its time for Zuckerberg to get Zucked I guess..
I doubt it though. Instagram has only kept growing lately, with recent surges in popularity due to new features added. It would take something huge to bring it down at once.
The way I interpretted Musk's response is "This company is horrible! I'm going to distance myself from them and not support their business" So I think it's a little hypocritical to claim that, yet still use their product and bring the company revenue.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:06:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram’s probably ok imo, so long as it stays fairly independent. I don’t use FB & never have, so don’t think I’m some kind of martyr or my companies are taking a huge blow. Also, we don’t advertise or pay for endorsements, so … don’t care.
Genuine question, why are people reactivating their Facebook pages?
MjrK · 7 points · Posted at 18:56:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He didn't delete the Facebook pages necessarily because of all the Facebook news. He deleted them because he didn't even know they had Facebook pages and someone asked him about it.
Just because same media company, doesn't mean they play the same role in your advertising ecosystem.
I see way more activity on his Twitter feed anyways. That's where I track SpaceX. I don't use Facebook for much other than Messenger though so I may have missed the content there.
Twitter is basically what Facebook was... Back in the day, Facebook was all about status updates... Now it's a wall of adverts. Twitter is m has taken over that realm, which is good to see.
puabie · 2 points · Posted at 19:53:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook is a far richer resource for data than Insta. Gives away family members, birthdays, events attended, life history, what you've shared, what you've watched, your relationships...
Insta gives your bio, likes, and your posts. And maybe your private conversations, a function few people use anyway. It's nowhere near the same product, because it's a photography social media. Facebook is an aggregate, comprehensive social media that works almost like white pages.
0XiDE · 1 points · Posted at 21:26:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you're signed into both on your phone I'm almost certain they have a conjoined profile at Facebook hq
Instagram was fucking perfect when it was just Instagram without FB.
Only use it to share photos and experiences with mates. Now.... full of self indulgent hipsters, Lycra fused prego mums drinking turmeric lattes and a non chronological feed that’s pumped with more ads than Australian free to air tv.
[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 19:13:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
yeah but they were really, really bad at it, their analytics gathering was really shit but so was everyone's when it was a thing haha, now companies can figure out everything about you with little effort
They were still struggling with the monetization thing back in 2005, it's part of the reason why Facebook took over so fast.
The customization also made it possible to completely alter your existence to where nothing was standard...which was nice. But most people didn't like that, apparently.
Justin Timberlake patiently waits in the background as social media sites burn around him. Taking a sip of tea he smiles off into the smokey sunset as he prepares to update his Myspace page.
[deleted] · 12 points · Posted at 20:14:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
pretty sure his companies' social media teams just spend all day astroturfing reddit anyway
tejmin · 7 points · Posted at 20:49:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Maybe that's why they're all saying "Hurr, yea, just fucked up his social media team's day today!"
I'm laughing though. It's hilarious how sensitive people get over a tool that does nothing but spy on you. It's more of a virus than a legitimate function, it's amazing how fast it went from college group up tool to an invasive, pervasive, mass citizen programming tool.
tejmin · 1 points · Posted at 20:15:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Subtle. I like it. :)
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 21:10:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
TIL his social media team not worrying about Facebook anymore means they are fired
I understand the value of getting your information in a convenient location, but /r/spacex is really the place to be for news given how insanely knowledgeable the people are over there.
celew · 1 points · Posted at 20:02:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Social Media team, not facebook team. Those people do a lot more than just manage a facebook page. Nobody is losing a job over this.
tejmin · 0 points · Posted at 20:04:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Like I said to another redditor - probably saved himself a couple hundred grand a year cutting that crap out. Besides, it's his to clothesline, is it not?
FoxFyer · -1 points · Posted at 00:05:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sure; any CEO can undermine or render superfluous any employee or department at any time. Most people consider arbitrary and capricious moves like that a demonstration of neither class nor style, though.
We've concluded that regardless of if he does or has never scratched his balls, the front page will be hit, we just have to decide which is the case in order to make the news accurate.
Reddit started out as a kind of “intellectual alternative” to sites like Digg - but I think it’s grown way past the point of that still being true. Sure, Reddit attracts intellectuals, but its reputation as the “intelligent media platform” also attracts everyone who thinks they’re smarter than the next guy. Then they all group together in an echo chamber, massaging egos and keeping everyone feeling intelligent by avoiding conflict and intelligent discourse.
cvhagt · 7 points · Posted at 21:03:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Most of the people don't even take the time to find out how upvotes and downvotes are meant to work. The use it just like on any other social media site, overlooking that reddit is indeed discussion based.
This is my number one pet peeve. Reddiquette clearly states that “the downvote button is not a disagree button” and that it should “only be used when the person is contributing nothing to the discussion”. I don’t even think people read the suggested rules tbh. There’s a lot of good stuff in there.
cvhagt · 2 points · Posted at 21:52:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To be fair I think reddit is one if not the only site that uses downvotes this way so it's not unlikely to assume that they are no different to everywhere else. It's the same with the GTC, we just click on accept without reading.
Btw I'm looking for discussion based subreddits that enforce this rule, to increase my skill. You seem the right person to ask: do you know any besides CMV?
I don’t offhand, but I too am curious. I love/r/changemyview - one of the few subs that specifically encourages discourse and intelligent disagreement.
I wish I knew of more.
cvhagt · 2 points · Posted at 23:25:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thanks anyways. I'll save your comment so I can tell you when I find something you can check out. If I rember, that is.
I suggest you look into their employee treatment... also while Elon sends rockets into space, people are starving and dying all around the world due to preventable, treatable illness.
People often forget that with just a fraction of these people’s wealth, so much harm could be avoided, harm that pushes people towards crime and terrorism.
And others will argue, “but Elon has no obligation to do any of that”, there isn’t a ounce of doubt that Elon wouldn’t be where he was today in terms of wealth if it weren’t for his ancestors piggybacking of the slave labor and apartheid of black and oppressed people.
also while Elon sends rockets into space, people are starving and dying all around the world due to preventable, treatable illness.
There are lots of things to criticize Musk for yet you manage to make the dumbest remark one could make. Hang this post on your wall, 'cause this is your Minum Opus.
Nah, it's just that when a man implies he'll manage to put in place a "direct democracy" in a far away spatial colony when he'll own pretty much the entire place and vital insfrastructure that allows people to survive there, you get a little bit concerned about what they do.
How much do you think that rocket cost, and how many vaccines do you think could’ve been purchased with that same money. Vaccines that would save babies, children, women, and men.
If he truly cared for humanity like he claims to, he wouldn’t look to create colonies for billionaires while 90% of the planet is suffering
You seem hellbent on writing the most insanely out of touch comments today.
The price of the rocket? What's your point? That a COMPANY made for SPATIAL ENGINEERING AND TRAVEL should use the money they invest in BETTERING EXISTING TECHNOLOGIES to bettering the quality of life of an entire planet in a domain none of them even works in? Why not ask the billionaires who don't do anything with their money?
Wow, that is literally insane. Because there are other problems in the world, he shouldn't work toward solving the ones he has chosen? Fuck off with that. By that same logic, everyone in the world, including you, should be devoting all of your time to solving those problems, and nothing else. But, if that were to happen, then the world economy would grind to a halt, and chaos would erupt.
All i know is that if the world can achieve 0 homelessness, 0 deaths due to preventable disease, and 0 hunger like we can today, but the economy doesn’t allow it, then maybe a capitalist economy is no longer best.
Technically we could do that, but in reality it is much harder to accomplish. And, while I agree that we eventually need to move beyond capitalism, it isn't like we can just say,"Ok, capitalism is over. Time for something else." When people have tried to do that in the past, it has had disastrous consequences and ended up causing far more suffering and death.
Capitalism is a necessary evil until we can progress sufficiently to slowly move to some other sort of system. Maybe we can implement a universal basic income at some point, then slowly take steps toward not really needing to use money as automation replaces more and more of the labor force.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:08:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lol, as if i, or 99% of the world, make more money than i need to survive in this capitalist hellhole we call earth. Infact most people on earthdont even earn enough to truly survive. You go look at the conditions people “survive” in in Brazilian and Indian slums and tell me they’re truly surviving.
Elon could live for hundreds of lifetimes of his wealth. Wealth generated by his employees surplus value that he ruthlessly extracts through some of the worst working conditions in the industry.
How does Elon Musk making and selling Paypal have anything to do with slave labor or apartheid? Do we only have our society because black people picked cotton for us in the 1800s? You can't say he wouldn't be wealthy if our ancestors didn't employ slaves, it's not like they employed slaves for the purpose of advancing technology.
Do we only have our society because black people picked cotton for us in the 1800’s
Yes. And if you think black slavery ended in thr 1800’s I suggest you read the American constitution, specifically the 13th amendment. Not to mention the millions of salves the united states exploits around the globe through capitalist consumerism
it’s not like they employed slaves for the purpose of advancing technology
That’s because slaves were technology to these people.
Elon grew up in Pretoria, South Africa, a white-only city that was extremely privileged and allowed him to follow his pursuits. If you don’t think having this privilege enabled him to become as wealthy as he is today compared to the terrible conditions blacks faced in South Africa, then i don’t know what to say.
In fact we'd probably be much better off if we educated black people and let them partake in the technological advancement of our society. That doesn't fit your narrative though that any white person who made money doesn't deserve it.
I am entirely in favor of educating those without eduction.
Knowledge is a human right, and the fact that intellectual property exists is a crime against humanity.
Every human should be able to learn whatever knowledge is available to learn, and many would if it weren’t for copyright laws preventing them from doing so.
But leftists supporting things you don’t expect them to doesn’t fit your narrative.
My problem is with the ratio of spam and koolaid drinking by people who think it is all driven by their fans due to how great the company is. The "tesla doesn't spend any money on marketing" myth has been pushed hard by their PR and... ironically their marketing teams.
It's nice to have the other side's views on display too instead of the constant praise reddit gives for the man and his companies. Are you equally confused by the anti Trump spam equivalent subreddits?
Yes, I don't really understand any of the enough"x"spam subs. If I was tired of any kind of spam I would actively try to not encounter it. Be it from someone that I actually like but feel like is overly reported (like is Musk's case) and especially if it's someone I don't like.
I am. I hate trump like the next guy so I do not want to bother to read anything concerning him. So anti-trump subs are blocked by me because they are so repetive and don't add any value. Only fuel your frustration.
For everything or anyone that is disliked or even hated there is a notable percentage of people that express their dislike for it that would not if no one else did. Some wouldn't even have the opinion.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:17:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In my opinion he deserves neither hate nor love. He is just a CEO.
Companies themselves should be in the public eye, maybe, but Musk himself is becoming an annoyance. He is "cool", he is also horrible in other ways. He is just human after all, a human with money who pays other people to do stuff.
I get tired of seeing Reddit collectively suck the dick of a billionaire they think will go out of his way to save them "from climate change", or they have grand delusions that they'll vacation to Mars, when in reality Mars will be a country club for the rich and a place for them to go after they destroy the Earth and won't be held accountable for it. Fuck Musk, and fuck you too, bootlicker.
A lot of people also thought it impossible he could land a rocket after launch. At least he's improving technology while you twiddle your thumbs and masturbate on reddit.
Haha, I was being sarcastic in that we can't give credit to the leaders. Of course we can't celebrate every single person in an organization. It's the usually the guy who brought everyone together under his vision getting a lot of the credit. And there's nothing wrong with that. This man could've just retired with his fortune but he instead decides to shape the future. And basic people like you can't understand that.
Friendo, we'd have to fuck the Earth up beyond belief, like nuke it from orbit with hundreds of nukes spread over for maximum coverage with fallout, before Mars even begins looking like a comparable deal, much less a country club. Just by polluting/exploiting the environment, it would take an almost immesurable amount of time before that happens. Motherfucker, Mars barely has an atmopshere, and has no magnetic field, shit ain't all it's made out to be.
Oh idk creating the first reusable and self landing rocket is pretty fucking impressive.. leading the charge for electric cars and home battery power solutions. Creating cutting edge tech is a competition... you’re not too bright are ya?
Lmao he didn't do any of that. His employees did. He bought Tesla after it was already making electric sports cars. Elon Musk hasn't done shit except take credit he doesn't deserve. Not too bright are ya?
So have a lot of billionaires, he has also caused more harm to employees than most would do too. Also he told his wife that he owns her (not as a joke).
And it's strange how you seem to know what a stranger on Reddit is going to do with their life.
ukima9 · 2 points · Posted at 18:58:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well what do you know, entrepreneur does things not most innovators or billionaires usually do and he gets to be in all the news
It's pretty obvious, and yeah I agree tweets and shit like this shouldn't be on a r/news but few similar comments on other subs are just too toxic and moronic.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 20:38:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't either. Even at work my conservative coworkers roll their eyes at his companies. I honestly think they've somehow made it political, like everything nowadays.
Does Reddit post EVERYTHING about Elon Musk? Sure. Does Elon Musk and his companies accomplish miraculous feats? Absolutely.
These people getting their panties in a wad over people giving him a praise can get stuffed or go somewhere else.
It's just that the move by Elon Musk was extremely petty. Mark Zuckerberg has accomplished far more that Elon at a younger age and obviously, he is jealous. It's just not something I would expect from the CEO of a major corporation.
[deleted] · 19 points · Posted at 18:50:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How is creating a website accomplishing more than Tesla and SpaceX? I took comp sci in university, I can make a website too. Stop riding zuckerbergs cock.
Exactly, Zuckerberg got lucky and actually did barely any of the hard work of what facebook is today.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 18:59:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This, anybody who took into comp sci and has time can build a social network, it takes a special mind to invent a battery that can power a house or help support an entire country's power grid.
Let's see: 1) Zuckerberg is 13 years younger than him. 2) His net worth is more than 3x greater than Musk. (About 65B compared to 20B) 3) You're discounting what Facebook actually has accomplished. It almost single-handedly transformed how humans interact with one another through FB and Insta. 4) You're also discounting his success and investments into VR 5)SpaceX is an impressive company. I believe that he can potentially turn that into a money-making machine. However, we'll have to see on that. But Tesla is 100% over-rated. It gets hyped up way too much and the technology is not that impressive in the cars themselves.
ukima9 · 2 points · Posted at 19:03:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram is owned by Facebook. We we're comparing the two CEOs and their companies, therefore, subsidiary companies (such as Instagram for FB) is meaningful to compare them.
ukima9 · 2 points · Posted at 19:20:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well if it's not for the British empire there would be no Israel (like it is now) and no white people in Africa so I guess the real credit goes to English colonisation.
I literally just left a Tesla showroom, and as a car fan, I can confidently say they are as sexy as they are technologically advanced.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:15:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
1) Once again, a 13 year old with computer science knowledge could create a website like Facebook so I don't see the argument you're making. 2) I bet a lot of people have a higher net worth than Elon Musk, yet he's the one doing innovative things that will shape society and knowledge of the classical sciences. Money isn't everything, net worth is irrelevant. 3) You're right, it has but at the cost of a degradation in social skills. It has changed the way we communicate but I'm not so sure that that's a good thing. 4) He bought Occulus, he had nothing to do with any of the tech behind the original Occulus Rift which pioneered all of the other VR devices out there today. Not really sure how that's an accomplishment. Also, the rift is probably one of the worst VR headsets you can get, the Vive is much better. 5) The impressive part of Tesla isn't the cars and it never was the cars. It's the batteries. No battery has ever been designed like it and they will be able to be used to power homes in the future. That's pretty impressive. Also https://globalnews.ca/news/3892167/tesla-lithium-battery-australia/
ukima9 · -1 points · Posted at 19:05:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Also space X made history with reusable rockets. Took his money out of his own pockets despite all the rocket failures.
Compare that to making a hot or not website turned to "Facebook" doesn't seem so great to me.
Facebook has contributed more to society than SpaceX has as of right now. That's not debatable. I'm not saying SpaceX won't amount to something greater than FB, it might. However, as of right now, the only thing it has accomplished it developed the technology for reusable rockets which makes launching things into space, less expensive. However, FB has transformed the way humans interact with one another. Almost everyone uses Facebook (in 1st world countries) and this has changed the social dynamics of our society.
ukima9 · -1 points · Posted at 19:16:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I agree with that but you must be naïve to believe if not for Zuckerberg there wouldn't be any other platforms.
Truth is if not zucc there would be someone else, but if not Elon it, would be way too later for anything like space X or the Tesla plan. Because nobody cared(and many still don't).
I'd expect a billionaire to fund something that they are doing, that's nothing special!
ukima9 · 4 points · Posted at 18:52:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think it's more of his debate and carelessness on AI not him being jealous,
like what being jealous he isn't the creator of a annoying social media platforms filled with moms and minion memes, yeah ryt lol.
You’re definitely implying that this isn’t news-worthy. With the recent stories about Facebook and Elon Musk being the first big name that I’ve heard of delete the Facebook page for a company, I’d argue that it’s worth noting.
Please tell me more about what I’m implying. It is literally a comment about how Musk is on the front page just about every day on a myriad of subs. I don’t love or hate the guy, he is just all over reddit. Hence my comment.
I've seen their Facebook page, it got updated with like 1 post a week maybe, never seemed like something they cared much about, SpaceX isn't even public and tesla seems to be doing ok in the marketing department with the whole car in space thing.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:00:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It just seems like he doesn't give a fuck. Of course he knows there was one. He just doesn't give a fuck.
Good luck to him! If his mission is to advance technology, he will succeed. If his mission is to take over the markets he acts in at the moment, he will fail. His companies are crumbs to the big ones.
Anyhow, it's a plus for all of us so kudos to him!
Obligatory: I don't know shit and am mostly talking out of my ass.
Plenty of words start with "k" - - kick, kill, kite - - but what's confusing is that we also use "c" for the same sound: see curt, crunch, and colony. No time for history of the English language, but if you Google it, then you'll learn the essential point: blame the French.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:07:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Was just gonna mention the French. They have so few words beginning with the letter K it's almost unbelievable.
Yep. And those k-initial words are mostly likely all loanwords from other languages. (I don't speak or read French though.) I believe we get our hard K from English's Germanic roots. We get both the hard C and the s-sounding c from French. Before those bastards invaded England in 1066, we used good ol' K for all those k sounds. (Literally though, William the Conqueror was first known as the Bastard.)
If he doesn't give a fuck then why does he have to lie about it? He says he launched the car towards Mars in order to inspire people. How do you inspire people without utilizing the biggest social media platform? He definitely knew there was a SpaceX facebook.
FB has no real competition except aging out due to the younger kids not caring to have a presence there. Otherwise I doubt the average user is deleting their profile.
It's the really big names that are dealing major blows to social media, not simply the news stories. Rihanna hurt Snapchat pretty bad, people are starting to take notice. How much is your information worth? You're giving it out for free, when in fact companies should be paying you for access to advertise to you.
Imagine developing a model where people are incentivized to join by receiving a small payment from companies they allow to advertise to them. You select that you want to see X company, say Macy's and Chipotle, they will not have access to your private information but instead will be allowed to show ads to you like Facebook does. This is good for the company because instead of buying ads on Facebook and STILL getting ripped off by artificial reach limitations, you actually "buy" access to a real (phone-verified) person who opted-in to receive your marketing. It won't be a huge payment, but like Google adsense it will add up. Companies pay people for leads all the time, they pay huge teams to go out and look for people to market to, they might actually save money by simply paying subscribers directly. The social network itself could take a small cut like eBay to run its operations. Just a thought.
It would take away a very substantial amount of power from large corporations. I like the idea, though I'm very pessimistic such a system would ever be implemented... I just can't picture US companies agree to such measures.
KorgRue · 67 points · Posted at 18:54:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well, looks like a couple social media teams just got pink slips this morning.
A couple of teams? You mean a couple of employees and they're not getting pink slips because it's probably only an occasional side project for them. Their social media presence is minuscule outside of major announcements or launches.
Yeah that one post a week their FB got must have required teams of people who are now unemployed. Or, you know, one of their guys has 15 minutes less work per week.
What about EXIF data? Can Instagram see that from photos people upload?
EDIT: So Google says that Instagram deletes EXIF data from photos when they’re uploaded. Whether or not Instagram gets two versions of the photo and just shows the one which you can’t extract data from, I’m not sure.
Asking attention whores to delete their selfie social media is like asking a fish to give up water, it's just not going to happen.
Both may be stealing info or whatever moral trendy panic is going on (as if you can have an internet presence and not leave a identity trace, unless you're paranoid and make staying hidden a full time job), but there are limits, damnit!
(You might have guessed I dislike attention whores & Instagram.)
It’s almost as if the people who don’t know or care about this shit (ie the average person) aren’t the same people circlejerking about how this will be the end of Facebook (read: most of reddit, whose most vocal users consist mainly of introverts and techies — not exactly Facebook’s target demographic).
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 19:32:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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K20BB5 · 3 points · Posted at 20:50:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Downloading the app is giving them it. You agree to those permissions when you install it. I don't use their apps for that very reason.
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 19:38:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This isn't nearly as dire as you're making it seem. You no longer tap "next" when installing to grant access, they're using the new Android (and iOS) permission model where permissions are requested when you use specific features that require them. So if you want to use their built-in camera, you'll need to give access to that, but otherwise you don't give them camera (or microphone) access.
Same for the data they request. Don't want to give them your contacts (they don't request call logs, but this is close enough), then when it asks you if you want to import contacts, say no or Deny the permission. Don't want them to see your photos? Don't allow it, but then you won't be able to upload your selfies. It all happens as it goes and apps are required to accept either response, accept or deny, for any of the requests. You don't have to give them any more data than you want to.
In the end, they also don't have access to "everything" just "a lot of things" on Android and "some things" on iOS.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:18:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As I already said above, they don't have access to your call logs. At all. In fact, they have access to nothing by default. In both Android and iOS, the app will specifically request a permission when it needs it.
This is the list of permissions and some of the things they're used for in Android:
Calendar (calendar sync/birthday calendars)
Camera (FB Stories, upload photos from camera)
Contacts (contacts sync)
Location (location tagging, nearby friends)
Microphone (FB Stories, upload video from camera)
Phone ("phone status and identity" ie. your phone number)
SMS (phone verification)
Storage (save photos)
A bunch of misc system tasks like changing certain settings, installing apps
The equivalent iOS list is:
Location
Photos
Microphone
Camera
Siri & Search (suggestions)
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:44:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Android introduced the new permission model 3 years ago, but yes, devices older than that would have them all or nothing.
However, that list was taken from the Play Store itself, so it's all of the permissions they ask for, regardless of the method they do so.
If you follow the Twitter thread, a lot of people can't reproduce what he saw, and he himself admitted the data is for a specific time window and not current. Others think it might have been the Messenger app or as a result of allowing access for some SMS/Call integration feature. There's no record of the permissions Facebook has requested in the past, but call logs is not one they request right now.
Edit: I just checked, and Messenger does indeed have "read call log" under its phone permissions. Messenger Lite is their lightweight alternative that doesn't have this feature, so it's probably related to the aforementioned SMS/Call integration in Messenger. The tweeter specifically mentioned enabling that feature at a certain point, so he must've given the app permission to access the logs at that point. That's the permission system working as designed.
Lol, do you have a Gmail account? Do you use an Android phone?
Oh, you do? Well then I guess you need to get rid of them, because I can almost guarantee that Google knows just as much, if not more, about you. And their entire business model is... selling that info.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 20:33:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Replicant on an S3 with the GPS radio removed and a burner sim for VOIP and an open source decentralized VPN. I have my own local encrypted mail server. I don't have a google account.
I use cock.li for a burner email for sign ups and shit.
Lol 99% of people don't know a single thing about what you just said.
This is why free services like Google and Facebook will never die.
Aesho · 1 points · Posted at 19:46:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because why not? They'll get that info regardless of what I do. I just don't care anymore. I don't care if Facebook sells my bio to an advertiser or whatever. I don't even use it anymore.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:48:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Aesho · 1 points · Posted at 20:00:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I use to be super pro-privacy. Especially when I was younger. SOPA was a huge deal because I seriously thought the end of the internet was coming (I was like 13 at the time) reddit made a huge deal about SOPA, and it didn't pass. Then the next big bill came and then the next. Then I just stopped caring. I have shit in my life to deal with. I just don't care about my privacy anymore. They can have it all. They can watch me watch porn for all I care.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:30:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why give up your privacy? Whats stopping the government from installing cameras in your home?
Private companies already do, samsung TVs record your conversations to sell you shit and some even have cameras.
Aesho · 0 points · Posted at 20:33:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That first scenario isn't happening. I believe if it got to that people would fight back. I don't see that as a realistic thing, but I don't own a TV. I have my laptops camera taped over and the mic plugged. That is pretty much as far as I go when it comes to my privacy.
From now, and until any of us die, can you guarantee it won't affect anyone's lives? That's the point people are making - no one can say that with an absolute certainty. We have to trust absolute strangers, who can sell the information to make money.
Seems stupid to give your entire life to a company
Who said I do? I don't think you understand how data algorithms and analytics works. My profile page consists of my name and location. That's it. That is information the government themselves sell to all kinds of companies against my will like the USPS to advertisers and area businesses and the state to political campaigns. The real information is in the background. When a company like Cambridge accesses your profile information, they don't get a picture of your front page, they get a list of all of your connections, your likes, your views, your friends and their views, likes, posts, pictures, ect. I could have absolutely nothing but my name on my profile and use facebook for nothing more than a news aggregate and liking friends posts, and an algorithm can be created to put all of that data together into a profile, not unlike a criminal profiler for the police might put together, but 100x more complicated and in depth.
I really couldn't give a shit about what FB does with the info I have there. The most harm that could happen to me is if they gave my phone numbers to solicitors. At most, that would be annoying. This Ars Technica shit doesn't effect me.
splim · 1 points · Posted at 20:21:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't. The real meat is in the overall data. Just analyzing what types of articles someone clicks on, what groups they follow, and what friends posts they frequently 'like' can paint an entire personality profile and a rough picture of their life and views. It's not like I list every single detail of my life on my profile.
Exactly. You can garner a lot of information from what people watch, watch 'till the end, click, "like," or literally any other recorded interaction. To the user, they might not even have a picture of them up there, but that doesn't mean Facebook doesn't have a lot of data on you.
It's built in such a way that, if you're using it at all, significant data is being collected on you. Even if you don't tag pictures or post phone numbers.
Maybe I’m just really dumb, but why is it so bad that they have/sell this information? None of it is important or really that private? I don’t really use Facebook but I’m interested as to what they have that people don’t want them to have, or at least what can impact their lives in any way.
"He said personal data including email addresses and in some cases private messages was allowed to leave Facebook servers with no real controls on how the data was used after that."
dahjay · 1 points · Posted at 20:14:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ok but the dude who was quoted worked there in 2011 and 2012 which was before CA had access to the data in 2015 and, from what I understand, the loopholes that CA exposed on FB are no longer available.
I've seen the private message data and it's an absolute shit show. You need technology to piece the data back together to make it remotely useful.
Sure but the only option to 'protect all data from leaking' is to disconnect from the digital age altogether. That's just not an option for most people. I enjoy some of the things social media provides. I enjoy some of the features my smart phone provides. In this case, it's about minimizing instead of eliminating.
You don't need a unit of measurement as long as you have something to reference from.
Example; Someone is going fast at an unknown speed, and another person drives past them.. You can know that the second person is going faster than them by comparing their positions at any two points in time and taking the difference in distance.
Twitter is going forward into the guilt axis at a speed slower than Facebook, regardless of unit.
The amount of data that can be mined. My tweets are less than 100 characters most of the time and they have my contact info/who I follow, whereas my facebook has full conversations between users, in groups, pictures that have locations, music tastes, things I like, things I follow, all my friends, my contact info, etc. The unit is, for lack of a better word, information.
Twitter remains anonymous. Users are not attached to real people unless they choose to use their real names.
Facebook FORCES users to use their their real names, photograph their driver's licenses and even demands personal facial photos. Face book has "fun" quizzes and tests where idiots basically spill out their whole lives for Facebook to sell.
because its my job to understand these sorts of things. i've spent over a decade studying and working in social media. the information twitter could collect on a person isn't nearly as invasive as what facebook is doing. not by a long shot.
that just scratches the surface. i am confident that they have all sorts of other things on you that you don't even realize. they can extrapolate all sorts of information on you based on how you use the site. they probably have in-depth psychological profiles on just about everyone in the developed world.
FB is collecting information on you even if you never agree to their TOS. if you have friends on FB they have a file on you. if people who use FB use your computer, they have a file on you. even if you do agree to their TOS, what they gather on you is so far over the line it is disgusting and could be used to threaten the very fabric of society.
If all they know about you is what your friends say, then tell your friends to not share those details on facebook. If my friends post a selfie of me and them, is it really facebooks fault? Is it your fault if I tell you about my friend Simon, that he likes WH40K and you just happen to have a brain and remember that information?
If you let your friends use facebook at your house, facebook sees a login from an unknown position, of course facebook will think you either bought a new house, someone hacked you or you're at your friends house.
12g87 · -2 points · Posted at 18:55:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I would suggest not using their services then. I have never had it and never will, but I hear people who say they can't stand FB but continue to use it.
i can assure you that unless you have always taken extraordinary measures to stay off their radar they certainly do have info on you. even if that is that case, they have so much power and control over the people you care about that it doesn't really matter.
12g87 · 0 points · Posted at 19:25:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Control to do what? Try to sell people things they don't want to buy?
believe the unbelievable. vote for people who absolutely will not serve in the best interest of the people. blackmail. riots. war. if you have been paying attention at all over the past couple of years you will have noticed these things.
12g87 · 1 points · Posted at 19:40:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Those thing are not the problem. They are just a symptom. The problem is that people let a website think for them and have no self control. If everyone stops using FB they will simply go out of business.
Convince people to vote for people they normally wouldn't vote for. My mother wanted Ted Cruz (who Cambridge Analytica was working for before working for Trump) to win in the Republican Primary. She has no reason to like Cruz at all, she isn't a Christian and she has only ever lived in large Mid Atlantic/North East cities. She's not even white. She is also obsessed with Facebook and taking Facebook quizzes. It never made sense to me why she wanted to vote for Ted Cruz at all until I saw what CA did with Facebook.
There were 10+ other conservatives in the primaries she could've chosen (she loved the Bush presidency, why didn't she go with Jeb?). For reference, she usually votes the same as my dad, he wanted Scott Walker to win. He does not use Facebook.
I don't know what to tell you, but bloodlines didn't help Jeb. Ted Cruz was the second most popular candidate, so voting for him was seen as a chance against Trump.
My mom supports Trump, she wasn’t afraid of him winning. I asked why Cruz out of everyone and she said “Idk I like him”
You don’t have to tell me anything, I know why she went for Cruz and it all goes back to her obsession with taking Facebook quizzes.
V3rzamm · 100 points · Posted at 17:37:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter and facebook are two different things. I don't use either of them but I'm willing to acknowledge that both platforms are different and facebook is the shittier of the two. At this point you are basically screaming 'lul fuck social media' while commenting on a thread on a social media site
I mean I'm just pointing out that Elon Musk is making a big deal about how bad Facebook is on another social media site that also mines user data and sells that data to whoever wants to buy it. It's not like Twitter's business ethos is better than Facebook's, they just haven't leveraged their product as effectively. And of course this applies to Reddit as well.
I don't know if he did or didn't, but it's not unfeasible that the CEO or a similarly ranking official in a company does not know about or pay attention to their social media accounts.
You need to give your phone number for twitter though. Forcing users to give phone number just for reading tweets is pretty aggressive data gathering in my opinion.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:46:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You need to login to view the "tweets and responses" for example. When you register without providing phone number, twitter will suspend your account after a while unless you provide a phone number. They say that they detected "bot like activity" or something shady like that, even though everyone gets the same thing regardless of whether they even have any "activity". My bad though, I can still read responses with suspended accounts, I just need to give them my phone number if I want to tweet something. This is not a new problem, there are over two year old tutorials on how to bypass the phone number requirement.
MjrK · 2 points · Posted at 18:07:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's not a big deal, Reddit just upvotes anything with Musk in the title. Add that to the recent Facebook hysteria and you get a lot of upvoting redittors.
Is reddit really a social media site? It seems more like a bulletin board or a forum because users are, largely, anonymous. Although this is changing, now with the new user profiles and whatnot...
The toxicity isn't the point, the company policy is much worse than Twitter. I don't use either, but when somebody like mike fuckerburg blatantly insults users repeatedly, that's when you stop using a service.
Starting to feel really good about never getting into the facebook/social media craze. I mean, I'm sure there's a profile on me somewhere that some data miner has made, but for a few brief seconds before I remember that, I get to feel good about using facebook for a whole month in 2008 before giving up on it.
EDIT: If you read my whole comment you'll see the words I'm sure there's a profile on me somewhere that some data miner has made, and that goes for reddit. Besides, I don't consider reddit social media the same way that facebook and twitter are. Reddit doesn't ask for my phone number when signing up.
If you read my whole comment you'll see the words I'm sure there's a profile on me somewhere that some data miner has made, and that goes for reddit. Besides, I don't consider reddit social media the same way that facebook and twitter are. Reddit doesn't ask for my phone number when signing up.
itty53 · 9 points · Posted at 17:54:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Besides, I don't consider reddit social media the same way that facebook and twitter are. Reddit doesn't ask for my phone number when signing up.
And they really love you for that. Reddit has more data on you than Facebook. They can guess more about you than Facebook. Promise. Behavioral analytics doesn't give a damn about your phone number.
I'm not quite as concerned about that if they don't know who I am. They know 'me' in the behavioral sense, but the problem people have with facebook is the worry that, if their data is divorced from them as a face/name, it is only because they are trusting someone at facebook to divorce the two. Now, I'm not saying that Reddit actually doesn't know who I am, because cookies could probably tell them, but there is a comfortability difference between 'they could find out' and 'I'm directly telling them'.
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 18:31:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
but there is a comfortability difference between 'they could find out' and 'I'm directly telling them'.
And you're more comfortable with the former?? Am I reading this right?
Yes? Why would willingly giving them more personal information be better?
I am far more comfortable with someone taking the list of public information I've disseminated and building a personality profile of me.
One is using my web behavior to build a profile.
One is using my name, photos throughout my life, who my friends are, where I live, the content of conversations I have with my friends (including private messages), who my employer is and work history, where I went to school, what my profession is, what products I like, who I've dated, my real-time location, whose profiles I look at how many times, and my web behavior. How is that better? It's exactly the other option, plus 100 more things.
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 18:58:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes? Why would willingly giving them more personal information be better?
Because that's a decision you make about your information.
You make the decision to give Facebook that information. Not to have it used in the way it's being used. I don't make the decision for Facebook to use my cookies to see what I buy and what other websites I visit.
I could just as easily say posting on Reddit is a decision you make about your information. The problem isn't that the information is out there, the problem is when someone misrepresents how that information will be used. When they tell you it's lockable behind privacy settings. That's where the trust comes in. That's where the comfortability comes in. People have to be able to trust Facebook to use it. I don't trust Reddit to protect my information, and they don't really even pretend to. It's all public. I know this. People who use Reddit know this, and they don't care very much. They just don't want it attached to their personal information.
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 17:43:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not if you keep deleting your posts/accounts and making new ones every few months or so.
itty53 · 5 points · Posted at 17:55:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As long as you're acting the same on those accounts, they can make a fingerprint that is startlingly accurate. Just based on the way you type, words you use, etc. Those things don't change with a username.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:00:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's definitely true.
I posted a question in another thread about these profiles that are created on people. If I completely adblock/scriptblock my internet experience, and only use reddit (casually), am I still "micro-targetting" by companies like Cambridge Analytica? I'm just confused how that sort of stuff works.
Sure you are, but in a more general sense. The Russian operated accounts for example. So what they do is put agents into large communities that you partake in. These agents know how and what to say to manipulate the community. Maybe they do it very slightly, and only do their goal through what appears to be a joke. Maybe their only goal is to make a community have a greater preference for a certain brand. Maybe it's Maybelline.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:49:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Gotcha! This makes the most sense to me definitely.
I don't think you recognize how samey redditors become after a while. Using the same sentence structure and the same attitude of response as each other. It's like a highschool.
itty53 · 2 points · Posted at 18:27:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Machines are way better at discerning those differences than humans. All of this stuff is automated.
All of what stuff? The hypothetical forensics to track down a person's alt accounts on Reddit?
Do tell.
MjrK · 2 points · Posted at 18:20:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just from looking at the subreddits you read in the past 24h and the kinds of responses you've made so far (or typed half-way then deleted), a well-trained model might be able to guess with some impressiveness which subs you are likely to visit in the next 30 days and eliminate a majority of subs your are very likely not to visit.
For targeted advertising, I don't care that much about your personal details.. the whole point is getting more bucks from advertisers for high-quality targeting. For that purpose, as long as I have a massive number of users interacting with the application and making decisions, I can build a quite powerful model of user behavioral patterns and content interests which will allow me to get better ad revenue through my app.
Changing accounts is probably not a bad idea if you are worried someone is interested in you personally - maybe you have a lot of money, or personal relationships that demand that, or whatever. But if that's the case and I already knew you personally for some other reason, your changing accounts is just giving you a false sense of security. You need way more secure measures or just stay offline and don't use a personal phone.
They do so on a regular basis even still. Yesterday I saw a top post from a 4 year old account that was inactive until 4 or so hours before, when it started doing reposts.
Molly goes into detail on how Twitter bots set up these networks that effectively amplify genuine tweets from Americans. Like the guy behind the #Releasethememo had 80 followers, but one of them was this known bot which linked his account to a network of other accounts to get that hashtag out there. It's a lot more complex than people understand.
Twitter has no photo album functionality whatsoever. You can post photos, but no tagging people, no relating the albums to locations/bussinesses/landmarks.
No information on what do I like (Brands, Entertainment, Politics, etc.). Following is different. I can just as easily unfollow someone and even then, what they post has the same presence on my timeline than anything else.
No information on connections (friends) just other accounts that I follow and who follow me, but no way of really knowing who is an actual person, a content creator or an organization.
No check-ins to places. No Groups I'm part of. No Events I attend. No "Life Milestones". No Education, Professional or Hobby data.
No data from other Apps that connect to it (Like Spotify, Waze, YouTube, etc.) Just what I explicitly post.
lol you're joking right? Twitter operates like other websites. Facebook operates like the NSA.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:08:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Funny thing is, the NSA has backdoors into the backbones of nearly every tech company. There's slides from the snowden docs showing they were all compromised since at least 2012.
That isn't what virtue signalling is for one, and you're implying that one must become captain planet before they can ever take a small step toward change.
It's false and makes it look like you haven't really thought through your position.
Virtue signalling is the conspicuous expression of moral values done primarily with the intent of enhancing standing within a social group.[1] The term was first used in signalling theory, to describe any behavior that could be used to signal virtue—especially piety among the religious.[2] In recent years, the term has become more commonly used as a pejorative characterization by commentators to criticize what they regard as empty, or superficial support of certain political views, and also used within groups to criticize their own members for valuing outward appearance over substantive action.
It is indeed virtue signalling.
The people I am describing join these protests without understanding what they are protesting (at least beyond the surface level) or maybe even without believing any of it. They are there only because they think it increases their standing among the group.
But at the end of the day, they still do whatever they want... because again, they don't have any understanding.
I have tweeted Elon several times that using twitter for official photos and such is in poor taste. They should be running their own archives from Spacex.com with public facing access. Then link that to twatter.
I mean, not yet it isn't but it's not like Twitter isn't trying. You can use Twitter to log into other websites and apps, you don't think Twitter is using this information?
Twitter is completely different though. You don't go up and down posting private information all over your Twitter... you get a little blurb about yourself, and you get your tweets and replies, and then you have DMs.
Apparently CA scraped EVERYTHING at FB. EVERYTHING. Private messages included. Even Facebook employees were datamined. There's a big difference between that and Twitter which as far as we know isn't exposing people and who may or may not be slidin' into their DMs... just selling data based on hashtags and twitter trends, content of peoples' feeds, etc. Facebook has emails, phone numbers, addresses, employer information, and much more. Not to mention all the other data they harvest we don't know about/add directly to profiles/events/groups ourselves (or at least other people, personally I don't touch that shit).
That said Twitter is hardly innocent in other ways, having contributed significantly to the rise of the alt-right in the US in particular. But Facebook and Twitter are not the same, just as Twitter and reddit are not the same.
I was looking for this comment. Social media is the problem, the specific platform is irrelevant.
To be candid, couldn't tell you how to stop it if we wanted to
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:40:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter doesn't force you to use your real name/identity though, unless you start to get a large following and want to be verified.
pnloyd · 1 points · Posted at 20:42:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter is the instrument of Elon Musks most amazing Gorilla marketing machine of all time. He financially bootstraped Boring co. by selling nonsense from tweets. 0_0
xoctor · 1 points · Posted at 05:14:46 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Guilty in the same way a shoplifter is just as guilty of theft as an armed bank robber.
It’s a start to getting back into touch with the real world. The internet really did turn daily social interactions into just notifications on a phone. It’s a shame how sad this world is, when the world is looking down when we should be looking up.
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[deleted] · 167 points · Posted at 17:37:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lol. Someone does something cool and it always has to be some nefarious plot to win over the minds of the peasants. PR isn't necessarily a bad thing! I wish more PR was built from people doing legit things.
In addition to what others said, the datamining appears to have also been used specifically to manipulate some high profile elections. It's not just 'lol people saw dank memes or ads they didn't like', there's some actual world-changing shit happening as a consequence.
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 18:53:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Were the people who were targeted literally seeing different, even fake news? Some people seem to get all of their news and opinion from social media now.
It's difficult to really get into it without typing a buttload, but I'ma try. You're correct, a vastly large and uncomfortable number of people get their information from social media, like Facebook. A lot of oess computer savvy folk don't realize that what's shown to you on Facebook is targeted. And the way that targeting worked is that over the years, every time you do anything on Facebook that could be used to place you into certain demographics, it's logged. And there's certain likes that only Democrats would probably like, or certain pages that are Republican. Simple examples there being say, if you like a Planned Parenthood page, you're probably a democrat, and if you like an NRA page, you're Republican. Using all this in an agregate can give you relatively accurate groupings.
When it comes to targeting articles and ads at people, you run into issues of not showing both sides, and a lot of bi-partisan issues. Some people claim that Rebuplican pages were targeted to not show up during the election, others claim the opposite. Either way the problem at hand is that Facebook has enough info on you to know these demographics. And while all this doesnt matter if you don't activly let pages and groups access your likes and information. But what recently came to light is there has been pages that are able to access your friends likes and information. So even if I don't do anything, if your friends are answering surveys and doing other things on Facebook, it can indirectly lead to your information being obtained as well.
That's one part of it. There's also eveidence now I believe that private data was being given to other groups, not Facebook directly, through means of Facebook's apps and games and similar.
Most of this type of stuff has long been assumed, but we are just now getting large media attention and common non-tech savvy people are being exposed to it. As well Zuckerberg was recently summoned by Congress, so it now has tied into politics somewhat, meaning it was just what more media attention and traction.
Yep, russian disinformation. Conspiracy theories about political opponents, political memes, fake news stories, the whole gamut. They did microtargeting and friended people to put on media feeds that would be more likely to sway them.
Depends on whom you believe. If you believe Facebook, they're victims. But there are folks saying they were very complicit in giving the company unprecedented access and support every step along the way. There's also the fact that this isn't the first time the company has gotten into hot water for data mining shenanigans, so it's turning into a 'fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me.... you can't get fooled again' situation.
Lmao every large company uses that metadata from all social media platforms. I like how everyone is getting their panties in a bunch now because trumps name is tagged to it. This has been going on since before Snowden and he revealed everything. Nothing has changed.
The Facebook issue goes beyond them selling your personal information.
They are directly selling your personal information, information for friends of friends, and are allowing companies to selectively target you and your friends with content designed to manipulate you.
Specifically, Facebook allowed a company to do this that then selectively targeted political ads to sway people’s opinion leading up to the 2016 presidential election.
Facebook took foreign money from Russia to benefit trump, which is a campaign finance violation and illegal.
Facebook let Cambridge Analytica take a lot of information, which in the wrong handles can be very powerful and useful in manipulating people. You can be manipulated in a number of ways, but content can manipulate you over time. Any one instance is easy to ignore, but over time these tools can and will sway you. Advertising is effective.
Beyond that, Facebook has repeatedly lied about their actions to congress and the American people.
Ultimately, this means that investigations will happen. Zuckerberg will be forced to testify in front of congress. There will be inquiries and most likely legislation.
The possibility of legislation will likely impact facebooks profitability and that’s why their stock price went down.
TL;DR
Facebook has been taking money from foreign powers to influence votes.
They have given targeting information of 50 million Americans to Cambridge Analytica, which has deep ties to trump.
Facebook has actively lied about everything and keep revising what they did and know the more it is reported.
They are going to be investigated and likely laws will be written that impact Facebook.
fzsage · 6 points · Posted at 19:20:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is that why I received an infinite amount of HC ads during the election even though the views I shared on Fb were clearly Libertarian and no amount of "This ad isn't relevant to me" and "report as spam" didn't do a single thing?
I firmly believe we wouldn't be having this essential conversation if it wasn't for Trump's victory. That was really the reckoning for all the harm Facebook did to society.
[deleted] · 18 points · Posted at 18:46:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 17 points · Posted at 19:15:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The hilarious part is that he misinterpreted or failed to explain the situation properly: When you buy ads on FB, you can target specific demographics (age, region, likes, interests, etc). That's it. On the grand scale, 100k of ad money isn't even that much.
The Cambridge Analytica issue goes a bit deeper, but that's on CA, not on FB.
The other guy is absolutely right: Trump wasn't the first one, nor the only one to use Facebook. Had this been any other candidate, Reddit wouldn't give a shit and would jump over hoops trying to justify it.
Facebook allows third party companies to take your data that Facebook collects and do with it what they want.
Sure, there’s a terms of service agreement that says you can’t do xyz, but they can still do it because Facebook collects it. And once they take it, they play dumb until they get caught. Then, they give an empty statement about valuing your privacy and saying, ok guys we’re serious this time, don’t do it.
I can hear you typing now, “but that’s not Facebook! That’s third party groups and you agree to that when you sign terms of service agreements when you get the app!”
However, for consumers, this is a distinction without a difference. Do they realize the app is not made by Facebook? Do they read the terms of service? Do they actually know what they’re giving?
The most ethical company possible would either not collect data or outright prevent anyone from accessing data other than themselves. Facebook has created a system where people think they are safely posting personal information where only friends and family can see, but don’t realize it’s all up for grabs.
Not only that, but Facebook has lied about what is private and had to settle with the FTC regarding the issue or privacy.
Are they sitting around selling your personal history? No.
But are they scanning everything given to them and finding ways to influence you and sell that influence to advertisers? Yes.
Do they allow third party apps on their system that can collect your personal data? Yes.
Has Facebook been forth coming with congress and the American people about this issue? No.
Has Facebook lied about taking Russian money and publishing content designed to influence the 2016 election, thus violating campaign finance laws? Yes.
Do you know how facebook works? If they sold the data they collected on users they'd be bankrupt in a week. The data is their prime asset.
I own a company that works with facebook. I know how this works. Facebook just gives you the tools to target specific groups of people. Not individuals. So for example, lets say you sell European baby formula. You can tell facebook's algorithm to only show your ad to new mothers living in European countries.
Facebook has data on these users because they might like or follow new mom pages, they also have their age, and location and a number of other data sets on these individuals. I as the Facebook client never see names or addresses of these individuals, all i know is that my ad will be shown to 3,280,000 (or however many) people that fit my criteria.
This is incredibly useful to advertisers. In this way, the European baby formula in our example isn't being advertised to 47 year-old single men living in Saskatchewan or whoever. I don't need to waste my marketing budget advertising to people will never need to buy my product anyway.
This is why Facebook's data is useful. It's only useful to them if they keep it private (don't sell it). I have to go to facebook to advertise in such a specific way, and that's why Facebook makes $40 billion per year doing that.
Facebook makes revenue, and you get ads that are only relevant to you, u/nramos33. That's how it works.
Just out of curiosity - what is the percentage of people who actually click your link? Is it even about that? Is it simply to subconsciously display your product so when someone in that demographic is considering said product your hope is that they think of you first?
I find marketing interesting in the way that I have a hard time believing a lot of people use ad-cent style ads to actually shop, or click on. Is marketing money just 'waste' money where you just want guerrilla-style marketing and consider it an investment, or are you seeing actual people use your links and then furthermore complete a purhcase transaction. If you don't, how long until you see the results of those campaigns?
Basically I find it fascinating in this day in age anyone cares about adverts. Any smart consumer will weigh their options from peer-reviews before blindly buying products. Ghost-review, or paid-reviewers is the new way to sell products, IMO.
I'm not really in marketing, i'm in finance. But i can tell you that 2-5% of people who see our ad click on it.
Advertising is much more about building brand awareness than getting immediate sales. There are a lot of case studies that show how useful Facebook ads are. For example Adidas grew their market share over 50% in one country in just one year by advertising to citizens of that nation through FB ads.
But you're right. No one clicks on an ad and buys because of that. That's why a lot of ads you might see on Facebook or Google or Reddit give you a reason to spend your money now. (for example, X% off for the next 24 hours or use this coupon code etc..)
Thanks. That's interesting. 50% growth from ads alone on a single social platform is quite substantial.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 18:41:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wtf? You conveniently left out that Obama used the same info and the exact same tactic in 2012. I voted Bernie and ten Jill stein, I hate trump. But omitting fact is lying. Stop fucking lying. Trump is far from the first to do this. Liar
Obama’s system directly asked people for access to friend list and tags.
Cambridge Analytica’s system told people they were taking a quiz for academic reasons and took data without consent.
Obama’s ads were designed to get people to register to vote.
Cambridge Analytica’s ads were designed to push lies and manipulate people in an extremely partisan fashion aka against a specific candidate.
Obama’s move did not violate Facebook’s terms of service.
Cambridge Analytica’s setup did violate Facebook’s terms of service.
You’re willfully ignorant, stupid, or pushing the exact same narrative found on Russian owned news propaganda such as RT and highly partisans Fox News.
Frankly, I don’t give two fucks who you voted for. But since you offered, voting for Jill Stein was beyond fucking stupid.
I’d have more respect for you if you told me you were a trump supporter than a Stein supporter. Because god damn she was unqualified, stupid, had ties to Russia via private dinners with Putin, and she released a god awful music album.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:12:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No, if you vote for Jill Stein you’re fucking stupid.
I can understand why someone voted for trump.
I can understand why people hate Clinton.
But if you voted for Stein you’re just fucking stupid.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:16:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My vote counts as much as yours. Stop crying bro. Believe it or not my vote has to be earned in a different way than “hey I know I’m shit but I’m less shit than the Cheeto” nonsense Hillary spouted. Field a better candidate next time
Wow voting for a third party is instantly shot down. You know if no one votes for a third party we will be stuck with the shittiest of two evils forever right?
If you voted for either of the two parties you are just fucking stupid.
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 19:07:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He didn't omit anything. He was explaining the current situation and why it was so bad, he wasn't explaining the situation as of 6 years ago mate.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:20:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So why wasn’t it bad back then? Because the “good guy” won that time? That’s fucked up logic, because anyone can buy this data. And if you don’t believe that, you’ve been suckling at the zuck teat of deception
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:23:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No one's saying it was good, we're simply stating the facts that are pertinent to this investigation due to the fact that cambridge analytica has interfered in quite a few country's goings on and seems very likely to have broken a few laws in doing so.
This isn't the time to "what about" it's the time to go "we need this shit to stop"
Never take a comment on any website as truth (not that you were). All of us have bias. They didn't lie, they presented the facts the way they wanted (or inferred). It is the reader's job to critically analyze what is being said and go from there. I'm not picking, I just think people need to remember to use their heads when reading things (like you did). Especially if it's not coming from a legitimate source, like a comment on reddit usually.
There should be a site in different languages that explains all this to the average people who don't have the slighest clue whats happening (AKA 90% of my social-media friends).
They aren't targeted to sell you products, they are targeting your psychology, usually without truth.
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[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 19:34:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've been manipulated into buying a product that wasn't worth its price, or one I didn't needed. Ads hurt you financially, especially in the long turn.
Just look into products like Beats Headphones and other crap marketed for insanely high prices
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 18:59:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ultimately, this means that investigations will happen. Zuckerberg will be forced to testify in front of congress. There will be inquiries and most likely legislation.
I think you underestimate the current Congress's ability to look the other way on this whole Russia scandal.
Until we vote them out, they ain't doing shit about this.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:08:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Actually they might act on this one just to show they're doing something and to silence any idea that they don't care about americans, this is a lot easier to get people behind than the anti-videogame thing they tried for a week
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:10:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Imagine how much data usage your phone would have if they were listening to your mics
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:45:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Maybe its only when you are on wifi. Just too many weird coincidences where a product is mentioned that I have never googled in my life, and then magically I get adds for it like 5 hours later.
Brainwashed idiot talking out of his brainwashed asshole. Trump hired CA, CA do shady shits for trump, but that’s just how digital campaigning goes. Where the fuck does Russia comes in? Do you have any proof? No you don’t. Stop talking about shit you know nothing about.
This is incorrect. Your data that you hand facebook through use of their application is not sold. It's their only asset and the reason they are a $500 billion company. It would be suicide to sell that data
No they're not. Someone exploited their privacy agreement and sold CA personal data from an app he made. Now Facebook is claiming to be tightening security against malicious developers. I'll believe when I see it happen, but Facebook is not the one at fault here.
Like Twitter is much better. I had to make a twitter account to enter a contest the other day, seemed simple enough. Skipped the add a phone number option and was supposed to receive an email confirmation (never arrived) after I made my post for the contest my account was immediately "locked due to suspicious activity" and the only way to unlock it is by adding a phone number. Fuck that shady shit.
lol, there's no one who is solely employed to maintain two pages on FB. Generally that stuff falls to a broader PR team's responsibility, where it's generally semi-managed by a few people.
Oh boy. You severely underestimate the time and effort it takes to be a professional social media manager.
It's definitely a full time job to come up with engaging content every day. It's comparable to being news paper editor, advertiser and and PR-person in one. I mean, you literally get paid for karma points. Just imagine all the things you'd do differently if you actually took it seriously. You'd need research, a strategy, a schedule, and it would be required that you stay on top of everything that happens that relate to your business.
There's a reason most companies' social media presence kind of suck, and it's because they just don't have the time and energy it requires to get it in order by themselves. It's definitely worth it to hire someone who can focus completely on that task, if you strive to have some form of authority and social attraction online.
Also, as a social media manager you rarely just run one page, and is never present on just one service. You are also probably responsible for coming up with, designing, recording, editing, and tracking all the marketing campaigns. Perhaps even managing the main web page as well, and maybe even be in charge of planning events.
If you still doubt the amount of work it requires, try for yourself to come up with at least two relevant and engaging facebook posts and two instagram images a week, at least one tweet a day, and one to two blog posts a month. And also make sure to answer questions and handle any comments, and hold conversations with your audience. And in the end, report every month on what's going on, with graphs and numbers.
It may be easy to maintain a facebook page, but it's a whole other story to be good at it. There truly is an art and a science to constantly having something interesting to say.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:05:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't know...There is so much you have to think about when posting to millions of people. You have to be skilled at it, find the right picture, the right words.. It's not as easy as it sounds.
anzl · 1 points · Posted at 20:10:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, they probably had one person doing their all of their social media, and I would wager that maintaining the Facebook took up a sizable chunk of their time.
Most tech companies are probably not managing and posting piecemeal to social networks. Removing Facebook from a marketer's workflow usually amounts to taking it out of your automation suite's posting schedule and moving on to the next bullshit PR piece on your content calendar.
Being rich or conventionally successful doesn't make you any more superior or important a person. Every stranger he interacts with is inherently as valuable as he is. Why shouldn't a challenge mean anything? On a human level, I mean. You, 1.0 of a human are being challenged by X, 1.0 of a human.
ITT: People jizzing themselves over a marketing stunt, as if this is the first time a company has ever jumped on board with a major trend by canceling their relationship with another.
Its the top post on reddit today, I got a push notification from google about it, they were talking about it on the news when i was watching earlier. Smells a bit like a marketing stunt. But sure, lets just assume Elon is a troll who also accidentally wandered into promoting himself and his brands.
[deleted] · -6 points · Posted at 20:33:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You just spend too much time on media. This trending post is the first I’ve heard about it. I haven’t seen anyone talk about it on Facebook, and who watches the news? You can read all the stories they have for the news hour in half the time unless it’s breaking news, but I guarantee this Tesla “stunt” wasn’t breaking news...
What about my post implied I spend too much time on media? Top post of reddit? Push notification? Its the only thing I saw on tv as I walked by the one in our entryway at work. I spent under a minute combined doing these 3 things.
This is the most pointless thing I think I have ever seen. Who gives a shit? Delete Facebook, don't delete Facebook. What does it matter. I keep mine to stay in touch with friends and family I wouldn't otherwise have regular contact with. I use literally everything else for news gathering and entertainment.
But here's the crux. All of these morons calling for everyone to #deletefacebook think they are doing something noble and great when in reality it's just another #trending on Facebook. Get a clue, you aren't the customer on Facebook(or reddit for that matter) you're the product.
I don't understand why people are surprised about Facebook. Didn't you all know they were selling your data when it gave you personalized ads based on your likes?
Xygen8 · 1 points · Posted at 23:04:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've been on Facbook for 10 years and I don't remember it ever giving me an ad based on something I'm actually interested in.
Despite the anti-Facebook stance Musk is taking, SpaceX and Tesla are still alive on Instagram, which is owned by Facebook. Perhaps Musk will shun that platform, too — if he is the man.
This is nothing but a huge show. They will take all the Facebook data they have in you and use it elsewhere. Don't be fooled.
lity123 · 10 points · Posted at 19:13:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think all censorship should be deplored. My position is that bits are not a bug
That we should create communications technologies that allow people to send whatever they like to each other.
And when people put their thumbs on the scale and try to say what can and can’t be sent,
we should fight back - both politically through protest and technologically through software
— Aaron Swartz (1986 - 2013)
//Replace c with r in the url to see how many post reddit is censoring//
I think all censorship should be deplored. My position is that bits are not a bug
That we should create communications technologies that allow people to send whatever they like to each other.
And when people put their thumbs on the scale and try to say what can and can’t be sent,
we should fight back - both politically through protest and technologically through software
— Aaron Swartz (1986 - 2013)
//Replace c with r in the url to see how many post reddit is censoring//
Other sites don't make you sign in with instagram and instagram really can't collect much data on you other than what you post and like, Facebook knows far more. Plus I bet he didn't really give a shit about Facebook because he never personally used it but he does have a personal instagram.
I think all censorship should be deplored. My position is that bits are not a bug
That we should create communications technologies that allow people to send whatever they like to each other.
And when people put their thumbs on the scale and try to say what can and can’t be sent,
we should fight back - both politically through protest and technologically through software
— Aaron Swartz (1986 - 2013)
//Replace c with r in the url to see how many post reddit is censoring//
Apparently people didn't realize Facebook was selling their personal data. I have no idea what they thought Facebook was doing with it before this. The very concept that they'd care about your privacy is absurd.
Facebook collaborated with a right wing political propaganda group that used the data to push propaganda and lies to the populace of the US and Britain to get Brexit and Trump to happen.
Cambridge Analytica is also being investigated for ties to Russia as their propaganda and the Russian troll farm propaganda coincided.
This is not about private data, it became political and tied to Mueller's investigation.
The masses are finally realizing that social media is literally the pits?
itty53 · 173 points · Posted at 16:55:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ironically stated on reddit.
Reddit knows more about you than Facebook does. Behavioral analytics is all about content not your age and name and location. They can guess all that.
Reddit is deep into the same data mining that Facebook is. Very deep. Worse too: with Facebook, Cambridge Analytica had to trick people into allowing them to see their shit. Reddit is 99% public already; anyone can (and certainly CA absolutely did) mine it.
I see you guys have not tried to create a new account recently...
edit: nevermind, they removed mandatory email requirement even more recntly. the sky has not fallen yet. You can click next now with an empty email field \o/
Which is worse. This place is filled with way more bots and propaganda. You don’t even know if you’re talking to a real person here. This place is a puppetmasters heaven.
No. On the sign up page on the computer, just click next when it asks for an email. On mobile, just type in the username and password, you don't have to enter an email.
Reddit is 99% public, but it isn't connected to your real identity unless you go out of your way to do so.
And yes, your real name does matter when it comes to shit like this. CA went to Facebook because they were able to harvest names, addresses, phone numbers, employer info, all sorts of shit. You aren't going to find all of that on reddit except on the most transparent profiles, which are probably people in public office and such anyway. And it's also much harder to look for (though still trivial in the end if it IS there).
CA didn't trick anybody. They had the keys to the backdoor. They scraped private messages between Facebook users and even Facebook employees themselves.
If you want to come up with ads for the 25-34 demo then yeah, reddit is a good place to go because you can see peoples' interests and maybe get a general idea of where they live sometimes. That's about it. The type of work CA does isn't just about figuring out peoples' interests and manipulating them. It's about figuring out who they are, what matters most in terms of their well-being, and targeting the SHIT out of them down to the county they live in.
Facebook also collects swathes of information about people who don't even use Facebook and tracks their identities and locations via photo recognition and such. Even if you've never used a Facebook account, they may have data on you. Not so with reddit.
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itty53 · 76 points · Posted at 17:05:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They don't care about your real name. At all. This is hugely important to realize: That's got nothing to do with behavioral analytics.
Your technical identity isn't important, they want your actual identity. Your behavior. They will assign you a 'name' (number), attached with a digital fingerprint that you can't avoid, and then associate the data to that. And you can't fake this without just faking participation. Writing random comments, clicking random links, effectively no longer participating on your own. As long as you use the apps for what they're built for, you're building a very, very, very accurate fingerprint for their use.
And third party companies will be able to associate that fingerprint to your real name and identity (by associating your reddit fingerprint to your LinkedIn fingerprint or whatever other apps) but again, they don't particularly care about that.
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itty53 · 64 points · Posted at 17:15:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you familiar at all with the controversy surrounding Cambridge Analytica that prompted Musk to delete the Facebook accounts?
That's why you should be worried. Behavioral analytics makes controlling people much, much easier. Manufactured consent, "guiding" people to the "correct" opinions, etc.
Trump and Obama both got elected using Behavioral Analytics. It's an extraordinarily powerful tool. You will be made to think you arrived at conclusions of your own accord, from your own thoughts. That is less and less true every single day.
How'd you feel about Net Neutrality? That was a behavioral analytics campaign, prompted by social media and deep pockets. It wasn't an organic protest. But it convinced hundreds of thousands to take a side with deep money (Google, Facebook, et al).
Saying "I shouldn't be worried" in this sense is a lot like saying "I'm not a criminal, why should I bother if the government is spying on me?".
DJHJR86 · 21 points · Posted at 18:36:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How'd you feel about Net Neutrality? That was a behavioral analytics campaign, prompted by social media and deep pockets. It wasn't an organic protest. But it convinced hundreds of thousands to take a side with deep money (Google, Facebook, et al).
Surprised to see this common sense post upvoted here.
itty53 · 14 points · Posted at 18:39:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ugh, don't get me started on NN. Shit pissed me off to no end. I got banned from subs for calling it out politely.
It was entirely orchestrated. There's no such thing as a campaign that is that pervasive that is just organic.
And when you compare that to the fact that we've known about SESTA/FOSTA since January and not a single front page post about it, it's pretty much proof positive that NN was a coordinated event backed by reddit. Why wouldn't they? Loss of NN stands to cost reddit a lot of money. YouTube, Netflix, et al too. But SESTA/FOSTA? Nah that won't cost them, so "no one cares."
And people wonder why I'm opposed to behavioral analytics. Because it's used to manipulate the masses in a way that is unparalleled in history. It's absurd how powerful this shit is.
itty53 · 6 points · Posted at 19:20:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You wouldn't believe how many downvotes that kinda talk got me during that whole campaign. Hundreds, in minutes. No exaggeration. There were so many fucking bots online during it. I've never seen anything like it, and this is far from my first account, I've been here for nearly 10 years.
ztejas · 7 points · Posted at 19:10:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Loss of NN stands to cost reddit a lot of money.
Companies best interests and individuals best interests align sometimes.
I'm not going to change my stance on net neutrality just because it happens to be the stance that someone else wants me to have.
YouTube, Netflix, Reddit all employ thousands of Americans that are "normal people". C-Suite executives aren't that different than the rest of us. Their decisions just carry more weight and they have more money.
itty53 · 5 points · Posted at 19:12:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I supported NN myself; my issue is the blatant deception. I don't like seeing mass manipulation, even if it's for a good reason. Ends do not justify the means in my book.
And the whole "paint reddit red with that stupid NN icon" campaign was not organic. It was mass manipulation. Bought and paid for.
The unfortunate truth is that it is also unavoidable. As long as people are using the internet, people will be able to track behavior even just with public information. And they don't even need everyone to gather general trends. The best defense each individual can do is educate themselves so they have a better chance of recognizing when it's happening, and taking steps to counter it and make conscious decisions.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 21:38:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's about my best take on the situation. Agreed. 's why I'm talking about it still, months later. I want people to recognize it next time. They really, vehemently even, did not last time around.
Couldn't it have just been well done because so many people want NN? It seems like NN is much broader and has a deeper impact than the more specifically targeted SESTA/FOSTA, which could've also been much more easily diverge into a different conversation.
itty53 · 2 points · Posted at 22:25:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It seems like NN is much broader and has a deeper impact than the more specifically targeted SESTA/FOSTA
The fact that every social media site is being forced, by its recent passing in congress, to institute new hardliner policies because of this says otherwise.
I'm at work but that post seems like it was mainly a Reddit decision. If it were SESTA it'd be much easier and better for them to directly blame it on a bill. Instead it wasn't mentioned at all, not a heads-up or precautionary policy. Even if it were, Reddit has always been the type to react after a problem has grown. So even if Reddit was affected by SESTA, they'd both say it and actually implement the policy after something actually happens.
Damn. Thanks for the insight. Seriously. First time really reading something sensible on it all.
(I almost didn’t comment or even upvote because then it’s linked to my behavior. Eek.)
itty53 · 2 points · Posted at 23:52:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
First time really reading something sensible on it all.
I'm not surprised. During the whole shindig, every time I said anything near what I'm saying now I'd be downvoted to shit in minutes. /r/LogoDesign banned me for even mentioning it as a circlejerk.
It was absolutely stunning to witness. Either reddit turned into the biggest group of identically brainwashed people in history, or it was manufactured to push an agenda rooted in dollars and cents.
Eh, well as someone who gets downvoted for the most mundane things ever - I would say the hive mind plays a large part but the seed spawns somewhere, ya know?
I’m sure most do not know more about NN than “oh no, not my internetz!”
dnl101 · 2 points · Posted at 20:56:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I can't see net neutrality as a behavioral analytics campaign. Politics always used behavioral analytics to an extend.
And as far as I know, behavioral analytics are mainly used for advertisment. Which is somewhat pointless when you use an addblocker. The only place I know that I encounter it is youtube/google.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 20:59:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And as far as I know, behavioral analytics are mainly used for advertisment.
Have you been paying attention for the last week? Google Cambridge Analytica.
dnl101 · 1 points · Posted at 21:10:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you don't refer to politics, I don't know.
And I still don't know how NN was a behavioral analytics campaign.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 21:16:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And I still don't know how NN was a behavioral analytics campaign.
Because getting all of reddit to agree on any single thing in the way that it did -- literally every single front page post for more than a day -- is statistically impossible. It was paid for to sway public opinion. It was facilitated further by reddit. And it utilized the same behavioral analytics they had access to in order to push it in the most convincing way possible, all for their bottom line. That was the reason. Money.
dnl101 · 0 points · Posted at 21:29:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So feeding internet nerds information on how the internet is in danger is behavioral analytics? To cater to godwins law, hitler already did that after ww1. And probably every politician before and after him. I thought the problem was about the way the information is gathered? And the information that reddit has lots of internet users, well duh.
So reddit pushed an agenda that was in their interest and probably in the interest of their users (and probably tinkered their algorythms a little). If that really was an behavioral analytics campaign, basically everything is and I don't see the problem still.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 21:30:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Seems you've made up your mind, dunno why you keep pretending you have questions.
dnl101 · 1 points · Posted at 21:33:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well, I'm usually not quick to change my mind. But I thought you may have good enough points to change my point on this.
People speak more openly and freely on Reddit because of the relative real-world anonymity. So yes, there is more insightful personal data on Reddit, but the real problem with CA on Facebook wasn't that they harvested the data, but what they did with that data. Facebook has the means to utilize that data for nefarious purposes, Reddit lacks much of that infrastructure and has the means to filter out much of the attempts... specifically when it comes to actual targeting of specific individuals (as opposed to groups).
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 18:43:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sounds like advertising.
Commercials have been guiding me to products and convincing me they're actually useful. Amazon ratings help me determine if its something I can trust, more so than word of mouth. Algorithms attempt to show me items it thinks i will like based off my history.
For alot of products, how would you know about them if you weren't targeted in some way for them to know if you'd even be interested in the first place.
Advertisements and specific products are usually concentrated in places where they think people would be more likely to buy them based off of analytics.
At what point are you deciding you want something? At what point are you avoiding things you actually want because you're afraid some one's 'convincing' you to buy it.
itty53 · 4 points · Posted at 18:44:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sounds like political campaigning. What else is a campaign other than an advertisement?
And you know we have regulations surrounding both advertising and campaigns for good reason, right?
Could you please elaborate more on your point about NN? Because that was an issue I had trouble in choosing a side due to my lack of understanding. I was just too busy/couldn’t bother with the technical aspects. How did behavioral analytics factor?
Trump and Obama both got elected using Behavioral Analytics.
The difference being when Obama did it, there was not a peep from the media or anyone else. Which exposes the hypocrisy of the whole "scandal" at the moment. These tools have existed for a long time - hell, you could argue that the inevitable focus on "swing states" means this kind of social engineering (in years gone by you got a balloon, now you get imaginary internet points) has been going on in one form or another for 200 years, but like everything else, it's only a "problem" when the wrong person wins.
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itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 17:22:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, it still doesn't affect me personally.
Trump being elected has had no affect on you? Lucky guy. Without this kind of tech and business, he wouldn't have been.
Shockingly, I do do my own research before forming opinions about things instead of just following the hivemind.
As long as you're repeating that over and over every day, like a mantra, you're safe. It doesn't take much to crack that though. Honestly.
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itty53 · 0 points · Posted at 17:26:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Trump being elected has had no affect on you? Lucky guy. Without this kind of tech and business, he wouldn't have been.
Doubtful. I have a family full of ardent Trump supporters, and they all still fully support him to this day. Even without said fake news, they wouldn't have voted for Hillary, even under the threat of death.
Also, this article suggests that the Cambridge thing wasn't really that effective, and had little bearing on Trump's victory:
itty53 · 0 points · Posted at 17:40:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Trump couldn't have won without social media and the analytics derived from it. I stand by that, wholeheartedly, despite your anecdotal evidence that a handful of voters in your family would've still voted for him.
Same goes for Obama, for that matter. He won on social media too. And he admitted it.
There is a distinct difference between winning because of social media and winning because you had an organization like Cambridge Analytica using behavioral data to help Russian troll farms target certain demographics with fake news and memes.
phukka · 4 points · Posted at 18:13:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Didn't the 18-24 demographic vote wildly in Clinton's favor?
Or do a shit ton of 60 year olds now spend a lot of time posting memes and upvoting pepe? Fuck, I'm so disillusioned with reality.
Its good news, but I stand by my point. For the entire election they were attempting to manipulate reddit algorithms to push their agenda and influence the politics of this site.
They obviously didn't succeed given that the politics subreddit was still dominated by pro Bernie, anti hillary, and lukewarm pro trump comments or articles during the election period.
Now if only Breitbart was given the same treatment as Shareblue.
Also, they absolutely succeded, hence their ban. They dominated the narrative there for months.
You can't be serious about pro-Trump articles on r/poltics during the election...right? Im inclined to believe you're being intentionally dishonest or have never been there.
Lukewarm pro trump comments or articles, mostly false equivalencies or saying Hillary is way worse than Trump or something along those lines.
Dominated for months is a stretch, after the election yes when people were angry but not during the election. Have you forgotten how much the politics subreddit seemed to hate Hillary during the election?
Its completely irrelevant. No pro-Trump articles or BreitBart articles ever make their front page.
Not to mention, nearly half the electorate voted for Trump. Ill meet you half way. Does it really suprise you that there were luke warm Trump comments on a default subreddit?
They don't make it to the front page now, we aren't talking about now.
Also I never said I was surprised by anything, and while half of the voters in the election (which isn't the whole electorate cause turnout is always shit) that doesn't mean reddit represents that 1-for-1 because redditors are generally younger.
I honestly cant remember a single pro-trump article. And even if you could find one, youd starve to death trying to find a BB article that had over 10k upvotes. It just didnt and doesnt happen.
Regardless, this is a parallel conversation to ShareBlue and their similarity to CA.
They wouldn't have voted Hillary but they might have not voted Trump either. Going by the numbers, a 50,000 vote difference split between a few states is all it took for Trump to win.
So a few conservatives who weren't blinded by fake news bombarding their FB, with Russian operatives posing as americans, retweeted by thousands of fools and bots to make it look legit, probably wouldn't have voted for the single worst nominee this country has ever seen who goes against their best interest. Maybe they'd stay home or vote third party. For those that switch remember that's a two vote change. Removing one from Trump and adding one to Hillary.
We're talking numbers so small that the weather could've swung the winner. A year of brain melting fake news definitely had its effect
probably wouldn't have voted for the single worst nominee this country has ever seen who goes against their best interest.
You forget though that Trump told them exactly what they wanted to hear. And although I agree that he was not in their best interest, instead of pointing this out, all the other side could do was call them racists, bigots, and deplorables. There was no fucking way Hillary was going to win. Even I wouldn't have voted for her, and I'm not even conservative.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 19:57:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They wouldn't have voted Hillary but they might have not voted Trump either.
In the two party system that is plenty enough. We know the effect of third parties. It's why the green party is hated by democrats like the reform party was hated by Republicans. It takes votes from only one side of the two parties, effectively weakening that side.
Had Jill Stein not ran, Hillary would've won, Trump would've lost. Just like Roger Stone had done in the past, he did it in 2016.
Not really. I'm a die-hard Democrat but that's the beauty of Federalism: What happens at the state and local level is much more impactful than what happens at the WH.
On the flip side, most of us will be paying fewer taxes on earnings this year... so there's that. I used that NYT tax calculator and I'll be taking home $5,000 more.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 18:24:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're a rarity; one who understands their place. Kudos to you.
TM3-PO · 0 points · Posted at 20:44:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And in 4 years when the roads are crumbling and bridges are collapsing because the preventative maintenance was cut guess how much you’ll end up shelling out.
Meanwhile we can't afford better health insurance for everyone because your 5k increase got billionaires an extra 300 billion a year.
But hey as long as you get 5k, fuck everyone else.
mohirl · 1 points · Posted at 00:41:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Actually, it does take quite a lot. It just depends on whether you're the kind of person who a) seeks multiple sources of news before believing it b) tries to confront your own prejudices while doing that, and c) considers whether the most influential people you know personally do the same. Tl;Dr use your own brain
I don't think you understand the extent of info they get. It's not just what you put on fb. It's your IP address, it's your phone identification.
Is your Reddit email the same as your fb? If so, they know who you are. If you were smart and used a junk email that had never been tied to your real name, then if you logged in on the same computer or phone, then it's all still grouped together.
Because they use that information to manipulate you into behaving the way they want you to. They feed you stories that will trigger certain emotions in you to make you behave in certain ways (or buy certain things or vote for certain people).
No it’s not. Most people I know would never even have a thought like that cross their mind. Some people really do not think philosophically about things ever. Not everyone actually analyzes their beliefs and tries to understand why they believe things. Advertising works for enough of the population for it to be worth the money, it doesn’t work on everyone. It’s specifically for non skeptical people.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 17:47:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I buy make up and clothes from ads on IG sometimes.
I've also gone to Taco Bell because an ad for Taco Bell played on TV while I was super stoned and had the munchies.
I've stopped at a BBQ joint on the way to the beach because I saw a billboard for it by the highway.
If advertising didn't work, corporations wouldn't pour billions of dollars into it.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:08:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm in marketing. You'd be surpised by the analytics of a marketing campaign.
For a well-targeted online campaign, we get a 9% click rate and a 1% conversation rate. Doesn't seem like much but when you're showing ads to thousands of people, you get amazing results.
Advertising works. But nobody will ever admit it worked on them.
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 02:10:40 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Advertising works. But nobody will ever admit it worked on them.
Biggest truth of the industry. Marketing and advertising is literally one of if not the biggest industries of all time. They simply don't like to advertise that fact.
It doesn't matter if you buy it or not. You now recognize the product and know about it which means no matter what you are more likely to buy it unlike someone who knows nothing about the product or has never seen it.
Except when I do buy something it's after looking at reviews for the best products in that category. It doesn't matter if I recognize some particular item if it is an average product. I'll buy the better one even if I've never heard of the brand.
Then you are an exception. Sales statistics would disagree with you about a majority of people. I also do the same thing as you though.
LvS · 2 points · Posted at 19:27:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ever tried it the other way?
When was the last time you bought something you had never heard of before?
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LvS · 0 points · Posted at 21:11:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're wrong.
You consciously picked the item based on the advertisement it displayed on the shelf in form of a sticker that was pasted on the box.
Or in form of a textual or visual description of the product on amazon.
I'm not a handy man, so anytime I go to Home Depot I'm buying an item that I have almost no knowledge about. I'm not buying it because of the stickers on the box or any advertising. I'm literally just looking for the best price or the specific piece I need to fix the issue at my house. I do the same thing constantly when grocery shopping. I don't pick the specific brands due to advertising, nor do I pick the store to shop at based on advertising. I actually go out of my way to go to a store specifically because it's cleaner and I've had better experiences there, not because of any ad campaign.
While I understand what you are saying that many decisions are made due to a seed planted in your head that you may not even be 100% conscious about, the guy you responded to is not wrong per se. And if you try to be a conscientious consumer, it's really easy to tune out the noise of advertisements, especially if you go out of your way to avoid ads specifically.
LvS · 0 points · Posted at 21:56:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Except you just mentioned Home Depot by name, so that part of rebranding home improvement stores is already working.
Cleanliness of a store are advertising. For most products it does not matter how clean the shop is. In fact, a dirty shop is cheaper to operate and therefore likely a better choice for you. And you don't know how clean the warehouses were that your product went through before anyway.
Oh, and to make this more interesting: Aldi and Lidl for a long time specifically didn't unpack the items they sold and cleaned their stores less than regular supermarkets to give the illusion of them being cheaper than the competition.
And all of that didn't even get into the fact that cleanliness is not something you can judge. Because I am very sure you have no good metric by which to do that.
All you did was go to the shop that did a better job advertising the feeling of cleanliness that you wanted.
I go to Home Depot not because of advertising, but because it's the only place that sells home supplies near my house.
I also don't go to Home Depot because of it's cleanliness because there are always wood shavings and all sorts of stuff there. None of those things enter into the calculus. I need a wax ring for my toilet (like I did last weekend) and I'm just going to the home depot because it's less than a mile from my house. Not because of brand recognition. I literally do a search on my phone for hardware/plumbing and it's the closest.
Again, your points may work most of the time, but telling someone they are wrong just because you don't want to believe them seems somewhat silly. Some people are conscientious consumers, and sometimes decisions are made based on chance, not because of ads.
It's not surprising though if you are in the field, you may over-emphasize their effect on people.
LvS · 0 points · Posted at 22:13:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You could have ordered that wax ring on amazon. Or on eBay. But you went to Home Depot.
And it looks like you didn't even make any evaluation of why you did that. Home Depot is so good at advertising to you that it's the obvious choice.
Nope, I noticed a leak and had to get a new wax ring same day. I am going to order on Amazon and wait a couple days to fix a leaky toilet or just go spend an extra buck to get one in person in 10 minutes and have my toilet fixed within the hour.
It seems you are making too many evaluations and assumptions as to why I did it.
I fully acknowledge the power ads have, I just don't pretend that every decision is some subconscious influence of ads. That's borderline conspiracy theorist.
LvS · 1 points · Posted at 22:59:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The idea behind ads and marketing is not that they sway a single decision you make. Instead they influence your way of thinking.
Marketing is the reason why you think going to spend an extra buck and spending 10 minutes is the better solution to being on Prime and just ordering one via same-day delivery. Because in your mind that is still "wait a couple days".
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LvS · 1 points · Posted at 10:41:02 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You have to actually go there and that takes time. Prime just arrives at your doorstep.
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LvS · 1 points · Posted at 16:17:29 on March 25, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're still willfully ignoring same-day delivery but believe that you're not influenced.
A skeptic might also recognize that it works on everyone, including themselves, and so take a skeptical look at their own beliefs and behaviors. Defending the perimeter and trusting everything that gets through is yesterday's security model.
As somebody who works in advertising, we love people like you. Just keep on thinking that way, oh and definitely don't think about ordering pizza delivery later. You're immune to that kind of manipulation.
LvS · 1 points · Posted at 19:30:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Of course you are a skeptic. Which is what Facebook has surely figured out.
So Facebook will deliver you a fair and balanced analysis of hard evidence that allows you to come to the correct conclusion:
And that conclusion is that Facebook totally has no influence on you because you are a skeptic. So it's fine for you to continue using Facebook.
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LvS · 1 points · Posted at 20:02:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, but you could have one and it wouldn't change your behavior at all.
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LvS · 1 points · Posted at 20:10:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because you're a skeptic. So Facebook couldn't influence you.
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LvS · 0 points · Posted at 20:28:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Exactly.
And Facebook will help you become the better person you want to be.
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LvS · -1 points · Posted at 20:42:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The point is that you ramble on and on about what you are going to be doing - or not be doing.
When it has clearly been proven that people do not do that at all.
You are not a skeptic. Sure, you try to convince yourself that you are one and you will find enough examples to plausibly deny that you are not.
You are also not striving to be a better person. I mean sure, you can convince yourself that you are one and again you'll find enough examples for yourself.
But in reality those things don't matter much to you. What matters much more to you for example is to hide from your subconscious fears.
Because clearly, if being a better person or a skeptic was important for your behavior, you would not spend your time calling other people on reddit a troll. That neither makes you a better person nor a better skeptic.
But it lets you zone out of real life for a while and not have to face things you're scared of.
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LvS · -1 points · Posted at 21:15:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's not like I can do anything to prove to you that I'm not intellectually dishonest with myself
You also can't prove that to yourself.
So everything you just claimed about me is also true about yourself.
The only difference is that your picture of yourself is a tiny bit better than mine - but it's in no way sufficient to come to a different conclusion about you then the one I got.
They're not knocking on your door, but they're messing with your mind. If you're fitting a xenophobic profile, they'll show you stories about Mexicans stealing your jobs and push you to the voting booth based on a bunch of false information that's strictly tailored to make you mad enough to do what they want you to do.
They're not following you in the real world as much as they're LEADING you in the real world.
They can follow you into the real world, if they wanted too. Would it be illegal, maybe not but probably possible.
That's a problem.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 17:15:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because this whole scandal is about tailoring ad content and other things to spread fake news articles to people they knew would believe them, and in turn vote for Trump.
Right, but again, how exactly does this work its way into Reddit as opposed to Facebook? If you were to compile everything someone has ever upvoted/downvoted/guilded/commented, you'd still not be able to target them on Reddit any more than you could already target the subs without any other data other than the known public existence of them.
The problem with CA and Facebook really isn't that CA harvested the data (although that is bad). It's what they did with that data. Likewise, that Facebook allowed them to harvest the data is bad, but the bigger problem is that there was no mechanism to stop them from what they did with that data.
Reddit has a mechanism to deal with bad actors through user moderation as well as designated mods and company level moderation. While far from perfect, the infrastructure itself is so much less conducive to what Facebook has experienced.
Which means they need to know who those people are to target them. The whole point with the facebook thing is they got your name and your friends names and they matched that up with other data you supplied and data on your facebook profile and used that target you individually.
They can guess my real name from my Reddit browsing patterns?
It would not be difficult for them to get your name using a third party data service. They know your IP Address, maybe your email, Device IDs, etc. Any entry level data scientist could figure out who you are from that.
Reddit is worse. This place is filled with way more bots and propaganda. You don’t even know if you’re talking to a real person here. This place is a puppetmasters wet dream
I think that the bigger-picture, problematic aspect of this is that most people are NOT aware of it. I know that with facebook, for example, it is going to show me things that it thinks I already want to see - which is fine for me as an individual because I proactively block things that are annoying, or full of shit (even if I fundamentally agree with their premise). I also have a pretty established policy-driven political viewpoint that isn't easily swayed by "news".
But I realize that a lot of people are not quite so engaged, and the passive consumption of some of this info can lead to bad places.
You are kidding yourself if you think Reddit knows more about an individual than Facebook.
I agree with everything else you said.
itty53 · 6 points · Posted at 19:01:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Really?
You've been here seven years on the same account, posting opinions, ideas, thoughts, laughs, wants, wishes, hopes, etc -- all under the auspices of anonymity.
You think reddit doesn't know more than facebook, when you know facebook isn't anonymous and you change your behavior because of that?
While that may be, Reddit hasn’t been accruing photos, relationship statuses, friends, click-data on the same level Facebook has. It’s really what personal data you weigh to be more valuable.
Reddit doesn’t even know my first or last name (or do they?)
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 19:19:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit doesn’t even know my first or last name.
Don't be so sure about that. You've give them a verified email, they have access to third party data. It wouldn't be difficult to figure out if they wanted it. Thing is, they don't want it. That misses the point of the power behind behavioral analytics.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:12:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah thats why I basically make a new account every year, but honestly you could fingerprint my past accounts (I overwrote everything with a script but it's still logged somewhere) just based on my subscriptions alone.
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 19:13:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Guaranteed reddit does that already. They have to have an automated way to see who's using which alts. It'd be one of the very first things I'd make, if I had programmed it.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:43:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I do like to throw off would-be snoopers. I knowingly make false statements that really don't change the meaning of an idea but skews my identity. Like for example, I have talked about my wife and children, yet I post to /r/childfree. I talk about living in a state that I haven't lived in for over 7 years, but still keep up with the local news because I have family there. It doesn't matter to everyone else but it does throw up a ton of contradictions and makes it a little harder to profile me.
They know more because they are literally watching every bit of discussion, they know your beliefs and your thoughts, your aurguments, your opinions, they can track how you feel by what you down vote ect.
Then why are you on reddit if it is such a terrible place?
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 18:51:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wasting time, spreading awareness, simple habit. When have I ever stated I'm better than anyone here? I haven't.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:04:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
>Reddit knows more about you than Facebook does
Uhh no.. No they do not. That is an unbelievably absurd notion
itty53 · -2 points · Posted at 19:05:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Copypasting my response to someone else:
Really?
You've been here years on the same account, posting opinions, ideas, thoughts, laughs, wants, wishes, hopes, etc -- all under the auspices of anonymity.
You think reddit doesn't know more than facebook, when you know facebook isn't anonymous and you change your behavior because of that?
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 19:11:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit doesn't know who my friends are, where i shop, work, travel, etc. Reddit's app doesn't scrape my phone for contacts, calls, messages, etc. Reddit doesn't have trackers built into virtually every site on the internet tracking my browsing history. So Reddit may know more about what movies/tv shows I like, what sports I watch, etc but they sure as hell wouldn't be privy to as much sensitive information as Facebook would be with the average user. Nothing on the internet is anonymous.. only someone who is technically illiterate would think so.. so posting on Reddit and assuming it is "anonymous" when the authorities could easily track you down is another absurd notion
And assuming I'm blocking ads, what is Reddit going to do with this info? Do they have the ability to change what posts I see in the subs I subscribe to, as opposed to what everyone else sees? If that's the case, I could just create a separate profile and pull all articles down using RSS or JSON.
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 17:52:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sell it to the next campaign?
I mean already, they block things from your feed. Shadowbanning is a subtle form of that.
The big issue is not what this does to affect one individual, it's what it does to affect all of us. This whole notion of "doesn't affect me, I don't care" is ridiculous. It's as stupid as saying "I don't own guns, ergo I don't care about regulations". Or "I don't have anything to hide, ergo I don't care if we let governments spy on people". It's the same piss poor, selfish logic.
The big issue is not what this does to affect one individual, it's what it does to affect all of us.
In that case, I would advise you to stop staring at the tree in front of you, step back, and look at the whole forest. The manipulation being discussed in this thread is being done on a societal level, and is basically what mainstream culture actually is. As in, ALL of it. Every. Fucking. Piece.
This manipulation isn't being done by some Dr. Evil-esque masterminds, but by people who are even bigger slaves than the ones they are enslaving; addicts getting high off their own supply.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 18:02:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The manipulation being discussed in this thread is being done on a societal level, and is basically what mainstream culture actually is.
That's new it isn't old, and you're apparently okay with it, and I'm done with this conversation.
You missed the point, my friend. I'm not saying what is going on with social media is okay. I'm simply saying it's a very small piece of a much larger problem. Even if you unplugged everyone from Facebook and its ilk, there's a hundred other ways they can still be led around by the nose, by other people who are also being led around by the nose.
In other words, think bigger.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 18:15:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Now you're talkin':
I want to see serious regulations passed on data ownership. It'd be a tidal shift in the way the internet works, but it'd be addressing the real problem.
But that's a daydream. It'll never happen. So I simply choose to inform people directly.
All of that is no issue if none of that can be traced to your name. Name and location are the big issues. Idgaf if you know my deepest darkest secrets if you can't put a face and location on them.
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 18:47:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
First, no, it's an issue still. Behavioral analytics doesn't care about your name or phone number. And your location can usually be derived from IP (which reddit has, of course). It's just as powerful without your specific name.
Second, yeah, they can attach it to a name. Easy. Provide a name on Service 1 (say, Facebook), they create a digital fingerprint of your behavior. sell to a third party.
Third party buys another data set from reddit, again, with that fingerprint. Analytics machines match the two profiles. Now they know your name on reddit.
Fairly simple to understand stuff, if you understand programming and database sets.
I'm not sold. You'd have to pull out the heavy guns to convince me on that one.
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 18:50:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Honestly? Not my problem. You're informed of the possibility; go investigate it if you're at all worried. Research Behavioral Analytics. It's a serious concern, especially as of late regarding Cambridge Analytica.
If you're not, well, stick your head back in the sand.
I will need to see some citations for the claims you’re making.
What is interesting is that on facebook we apply some sort of filter because we use our real name and family and colleagues are connected to the account.
On reddit that filter disappears because we think that nobody knows our username. Looking at you, /u/eatingyourmomsass
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 18:12:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I will need to see some citations for the claims you’re making.
No. Go look into it yourself, I'm not saying anything crazy or unbelievable. Take the extra time and educate yourself if you care. Or, if you don't, then don't. But it's not my responsibility to effectively change your mind.
Go look into it yourself, I'm not saying anything crazy or unbelievable.
didn’t claim or even insinuate anything like that. but you are naking a claim, i can ask for proof. i don’t even know where to begin to verify your claims. so, yes, it is your responsibility to change my mind.
itty53 · 0 points · Posted at 18:21:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
i can ask for proof
And I can point you to Google.
i don’t even know where to begin to verify your claims.
^^^
so, yes, it is your responsibility
I don't think that word means what you think it does..
If you don't believe it, don't. No skin off my back. If you want more information on it, you have the tools. You're an adult, right? You don't need me to hold your hand.
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itty53 · 4 points · Posted at 17:45:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They certainly facilitated The_Donald, which was highlighted as a primary reason for being elected by none other than Trump himself. They still do.
People forget that /u/spez is an open conservative. He is not a progressive or a liberal.
I wouldn't say that's the same argument. The government spies without my knowledge of what it's spying on. I can control what information I choose to peruse or respond to on Reddit. I don't have any social media profiles because I don't like putting that information in someone else's database; the trade-off wasn't beneficial.
It's becoming common place to know that you trade off something for free services. Government is not a free service (we pay taxes) and should be held by a higher standard because it is a higher standard. Reddit can't arrest me; the government can. The government can subpoena reddit to help them, sure, but again I haven't given them any information that I wasn't willing to trade for reddit services.
itty53 · 7 points · Posted at 17:28:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I can control what information I choose to peruse or respond to on Reddit. I don't have any social media profiles because I don't like putting that information in someone else's database; the trade-off wasn't beneficial.
Yes, you do have a social media profile. On reddit. In two years on reddit you've given them more data than most ever give Facebook.
With the comments you make over the course of time, that data can be used to create a very accurate digital fingerprint associated directly and only with you. They can guess your interests with a startling degree of accuracy. They can guess your leanings, your age, your location, your wealth status, etc.
You should care about it because it does affect your world. Trump got elected by using this kind of data to target people they calculated would be sympathetic to him. Your data played a role in that. Mine did too.
Shit, Zuckerberg was quoted as saying "We could swing elections if we wanted to, but of course we don't". He said that. Out loud. Reddit can too. Arguably, they already did. That's why this is important. Combine the behavior data with coordinated campaigns and you can change minds en masse. We've seen that happen too, with the net neutrality campaigns on reddit. Red icons everywhere. Convinced a lot of people to go to bat for the deep pockets like Facebook, Google, et al. It's incredibly effective.
Find a way to get my photos, address, birthdate, favorite food, relatives, school, work, licenses, countries I've lived in, wives I've married, etc. off of reddit - because that ain't happening.
Sure, they can guess, but I'm still pooled in with quite a large nerd group - which is fine. I don't share details or comment on certain forums because I know that would add more specific data points. I make comments on forums I don't have interest in to throw in outliers. I'll even throw in alternative truths.
As I said, I know what I'm trading reddit for. I'll let them know what I'm interested in so that I can share that interest with others and have interesting conversations, like this one.
itty53 · 2 points · Posted at 17:39:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Right, so because you have that discipline, you're not worried about the world around you not having it? Because they clearly don't. And it does affect you. I've shown you how that affects you even if you never logged into reddit, or any social media. It affects your world.
But you don't care. Okay. Your call, I won't begrudge you that.
Oh, I'm not arguing about if what they do affects my world. News companies have done that for a long time already. Governments and/or powerful bodies did it before then. There are tons of things that are more powerful than me that can affect the masses. I can't change stupid people, though. I can only make decisions and take actions for myself that I think will do some good.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 17:46:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fair enough. Me, I won't say I can't change people. I'm just trying to bring awareness to them here and now.
You shared good information that would hopefully sway someone who isn't already paranoid. :)
MjrK · 2 points · Posted at 18:26:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He deleted the because he never had any idea that they even had a Facebook page so when a user asked him if he would delete Facebook, he stated he didn't even know they had one then they were deleted right after.
The interaction went down on Twitter. He wasn't making any grand comment about social media.
Because Facebook is now part of the Mueller investigation and Zuck now looks like a paid propagandist for Russia when he sold services and targeted data to Cambridge Analytica which is a right wing propaganda group pushing lies to destabilize democracies and push far right ultra-nationalist rhetoric.
Facebook is now under federal investigation by the same man who took down Enron and is now investigating Trump. They are now a toxic brand and its no wonder investors are leaving.
Your seeing why right now, this resulted in mass news waves for himself and his properties. To assume its some random trolling by Elon isn't giving him enough credit.
Social Media is a very different project from sapce exploration and electric car development. The latter two are purely progressive projects, where the goal is just to develop better ways of transport. He was one of the first to actually invest a lot of money into these fields and technologies.
Sociale media is different, as it is not a matter of technology, developing a social media platform the likes of facebook is easy. Social Media is the problem itself. Privacy on a social media platform is logically impossible. You want to share your data, but simultaniously want to keep your data private?
Not agreeing that he should necessarily be the man for the job, but you could also say that PayPal and Ebay don't necessarily translate to space and car companies... and yet here we are.
And I don't think Ben716 was being 100% serious. I think we all just want cool people running these giant corporations for a change, and Elon Musk is one in a million.
Musky should cut all ties with [Facebook, Palantir, Trump, Tesla and SpaceX financier] Peter Thiel if he's the man...
...Otherwise Musky is just one of his blood boys.
After challenge? This wasn't a challenge. Some dude was just like "yo Elon you should delete your Facebook lul" and Elon was like "oh shit you're right I didn't even know it existed" and deleted it.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:26:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit can discriminate your tastes with way more accuracy than Facebook ever could. They know exactly what you click and when you goto the comments for a thread, and can use bots to brigade.
I mean...its cool and all. But its a little cringe to complain about a social media website on another social media website which we are now discussing it on a third social media website.
FB is shitty but its not uniquely shitty. Twitter and Reddit is selling your information just as much as FB is. Only real difference is Twitter and Reddit has no pretext of privacy and pretty much 100% of what user does and says is shared with the public.
i love how people think it's just Facebook and not all the other social media sites. Twitter must be looooving this.
iwviw · 2 points · Posted at 20:56:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They might be scared shitless itll trickle down to them
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 18:17:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'll keep saying it. People are writing this Facebook incident off way too quickly. This really may be the beginning of the end.
MjrK · 4 points · Posted at 18:59:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What do you mean by the end? Do you think Facebook will fold up in the next year? Or be sold off within the next year? Or do you see monthly active user numbers decline by >25% over the next year?
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:53:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm predicting a decline of 10%+ on an arbitrary basis. I'd love to sit and draw up a model rather than use intuition but it's too time consuming.
I don't think the end is near at all. I do think though that this is the beginning of their decline. Facebook is the only way some people are able to connect with each other and stay updated on each others lives.
Most people are not concerned with privacy as much as we'd like to think. People will just use whatever is most popular. Though if high profile people start jumping ship because of this privacy issues, it might cause the people who don't really are about privacy to jump ship too.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:01:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There is no other platform that does what they do nearly as well. Most people use it to keep in touch with people they’ve met or know really well. People don’t want to have a tiny group of people they call from time to time and that’s the extent of it. Until another platform comes along that can be easily taught to older people as well then Facebook isn’t going anywhere.
Thats the way I've started to see it more recently...what I know about people recently is what I've picked up from their facebooks...but thats not really them, thats just what they put out there. I'm trying to get into the habit of actually reaching out and texting those folks now
I'm right there with you. I don't own a cell phone and so facebook is how I keep track of people. For those saying that I should call people, they forget about time zones and how difficult it is to arrange times to talk because of the differences in schedules. So I either see someone in real life (which is rare) or I drop a note on FB.
I did have a mobile at one point because I'm so poor I qualified for a government-paid one, but I lost it because I didn't use it enough times per month.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:41:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
True, but facebook is just easier. And it's not like I'm gonna email most people unless I see them post something that I would be interested in talking about. I just don't talk to folks.
Also, I use Gmail, so i doubt that my information isn't being harvested by google already.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:38:50 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
How is Gmail the lesser evil than Facebook? I'm still getting targeted ads. I'm still having a large multinational selling my personal data that it harvests from my communications. At least with FB, I can read about people without actually having to waste time writing to them or being endlessly CC'd on boring updates about their kids.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:17:52 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
But anyways, it sounds like you're just angry about the whole "social network" thing with Facebook and it wouldn't change if I switched to any other social network page. You remind me of all of those people who used to get so angry about people getting off usenet and onto the WWW. Pretty much sound the same, just a dislike for an easy to dispense place for information. Meh.
I understand but I also lived in a rural Texas county that was new and undeveloped. We didn't have any cellphone coverage or dial-up alternative available (at least not until 2012). However, the government had a program where they expanded and brought in a postal center and land lines as soon as the territory was listed as inhabited.
You live in Texas, he lives in rural MT its either prepaid ( $$$ and very limited ) or Verizon( still a lot of $$$), no matter what he has a lot of dead zones
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 19:14:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Get a fucking obamaphone (well technically its a bush phone)
[deleted] · -24 points · Posted at 18:00:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Get their phone number ffs. You support evil Facebook and should be shunned
you say that while posting to a site that also collects ur data
[deleted] · -21 points · Posted at 18:03:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nice whataboutism. Reddit isn't nearly as bad as Facebook and you support them. You deserve to be shunned and mocked for still supporting Facebook. What kind of monster can't bother to keep in contact with people in other ways besides an evil website
If you look, i am a ham radio op. they would also need to be a ham op to be able to talk to them. and HF propagation isn't very good with the current solar cycle.
Queue up the many sheep who will think "Better delete my facebook because Elon Musk did."
zhadn · 2 points · Posted at 19:13:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
For anyone interested, here's his thoughts on Instagram, taken from this tweet
Instagram’s probably ok imo, so long as it stays fairly independent. I don’t use FB & never have, so don’t think I’m some kind of martyr or my companies are taking a huge blow. Also, we don’t advertise or pay for endorsements, so … don’t care.
I think it's time we turn the tide... everyone needs to change their old accounts to a new accounts with another name, interests, pictures etc so that these companies waste their resources collecting data in people who don't exist
They keep using the whole “because of Trump....” statement. I know this is a norm for campaigns; I’m concerned they keep throwing his name out to lump the negativity to him as well.
Next step is social media on a blockchain. You own the private key to your data where you can lease and revoke public keys to other private keys to see your data.
I had a problem with the article and lack of information in it. What's the back story? Why was Musk supporting this? Is this a permanent thing? How are people reacting to Elon's action? Since one went through the trouble of screen-grabbing the Facebook accounts, where is the screen grab of Musk's twitter highlighting the reasoning and interaction? Is print space a premium? Oh wait, this is digital...
Thanks to TooShiftyForYou for doing the job of the reporter
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned that in this cartoon ass fucking world that we live in, that the Elon Musk situation would be a fantastic beginning to a story about a comic book villain. Like one day he’s in one of those labs and doesn’t wear the white coat cause he’s too cool for school and some space chemical gets on him and all of a sudden he gets super powers.
Can we all just bring back MySpace? I want to take selfies in full length mirrors again!
Ba6al · 2 points · Posted at 21:37:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
“Despite the anti-Facebook stance Musk is taking, SpaceX and Tesla are still alive on Instagram, which is owned by Facebook. Perhaps Musk will shun that platform, too — if he is the man”.
Damn, I wonder if he does know and if he will. ( if he is the man).
Rc2124 · 2 points · Posted at 21:38:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Somewhere a social media team cries out in terror and is suddenly silenced
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:38:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Honestly, we should all agree Elon Musk is just crazy. Like dude was sitting around, probably in his underground lair, and thought, "I'm gonna send a car to space!".
Well, that's a pretty cool development that I didn't think I'd ever see, which is a lashback against Zuck's horrible company. And real backlash at that!
Hahaha, "what facebook?" Classic Elon. Good thing I don't have any facebook, instagram, Twitter, whatsapp, just get my spacex news straight from Spacexnow. Link
This is so stupid. People are stopping using Amazon, Facebook, Uber and all these other tech companies.
Is boycotting the answer? If you leave because you don't agree, the community that is left is less diversified and has less perspectives. You are create more hostile places and discourage unity and community.
If instead you stay and stand up and communicate like we do on Reddit you will see how people can coexist while not agreeing about something.
Deleting Facebook isn't the answer, its our culture. We want free, and free always has a cost. You may not have wanted to pay for Facebook but something has to keep the servers running. Maybe if people started paying for software more developers will not have to find every possible way to make a living.
It must be hard being a hero. Having to follow other’s ridiculous expectations and not be able to have full freedom to speak or enact the way things ought to be from their perspective. There’s fear of backlash and ostracism. Fear of rejection and disapproval. Public declarations to appease the masses while casting aside their own self. Soon after by justifications of their own effort they’ll no longer have a means to get back to their own reality. Tightly they hold onto this facade until they forget who they are and where they come from, forever removing their life essence from a now empty husk.
What if he just temporarily de activated his account and come up with it after a few weeks and most of the people have already deleted their Facebook pages permenantly by taking this challenge very seriously
Don't forget the boring company, where he is literally boring holes underground to create hi ways, also don't forgot neural lace where he wants to connect our brains to a computer
c-lent · 2 points · Posted at 14:39:10 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don’t think it’s going anywhere but I do think people will use it less and less..I find myself on it much less and following much less people
What pisses me off about this, is that for years, I've been warning people of Facebook's bullfuckery, and I've been written off as some edgy hipster.
I've lost dates because when I said "I don't have a Facebook", they would interpret it as "I'm not interested".
My only solace is that I can go back and say "I was right", but still. This is bullshit, and I know I sound like a butthurt edgy hipster. But damnit, it is so unfair.
You didn't lose dates because you said, "I don't have a Facebook". If someone is genuinely interested in you, they could give a fuck about what social media platform you're involved in.
There is phone, email, text, letter, packages, and video calling...other options to communicate with family and friends exist. And the other ones aren't a steaming pile of shit like facebook...
No one will remove themselves from Facebook. Just not going to happen because it's too valuable for people to stay connected with people without actually talking to them.
There's a need for Wikipedia or Mozilla or other non profit organization to drive a social media network. One with a much better featureset that auto ages content out and deletes it.
Is this all because Facebook again shared data with people from politics, like they did for Obama so famously in 2012? Such consistent integrity from humans, lulz.
PR move and Reddit eats it up of course. Think Elon gives a crap about your privacy on Facebook or how things panned out because of these kinds of leaks? He's still on Twitter which is also complicit in letting Russian bots overtake their platform. The amount of people in this thread alone hoping Musk comes up with his own social network is stunning. Pure fanaticism.
"I've seen people pass out, hit the floor like a pancake and smash their face open," said Jonathan Galescu, a production technician at Tesla. "They just send us to work around him while he's still laying on the floor."
He was one of several workers who said they had seen co-workers collapse or be taken away in ambulances.
"We had an associate on my line, he just kept working, kept working, kept working, next thing you know — he just fell on the ground," said Mikey Catura, a worker on the battery pack line.
More?
Michael Sanchez once had two dreams: to be an artist and a car service technician. He said he was "ecstatic" when he was recruited five years ago to work at Tesla, a company he believed was "part of the future." Now Sanchez has two herniated discs in his neck, is on disability leave from work, and can no longer grip a pencil without pain.
I'll add that in the early days of the Tesla facility, these accidents were even worse but..
Tesla declined to release data over those four years, saying such information "doesn't reflect how the factory operates today."
So much for transparency! The cycle repeats, and the billionaire with all the great ideas at one time will be the one spending his money paying off politicians, controlling PR, building their monopoly and maintaining it. This is how reality stars become president, people just uncritically circle-jerking the rich.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:58:27 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
If only someone would tweet him challenging him to treat his workers better.
IMHO this is the wrong move. Official pages for companies don't have personal information, and the outreach to people still on facebook is more important than a token gesture.
It makes more sense in the context of Tesla having no traditional advertising (they have the occasional PR stunt or Apple-style event.. but what else?), and ditching the dealership model. It's part of their brand image now (and engineers tend to love it - he needs them to come work hard and make his stuff), and this is a part of that. His brand loyalty is totally through the roof - and that could come in handy.
So in isolation, this could be considered a token gesture.. but it's obviously part of a larger pattern of Elon Musk being awesome. As a strategy thing, the problem I'd see is that they ought to have a plan for when he's no longer running things. There's a strong cult-of-personality thing going on (which in this case, is pretty well-deserved.. but it's a risk nonetheless).
As someone who made his first phone call on a wall mounted rotary phone, lived through pagers, text paging, car phones, portable cellular phone packs simple analog cellphones, the Motorola Rzr all the way to the George Orwell inspired device in my hand right now-we would all probably be better off in the Stone Age.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:22:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you knew the conditions we lived in during the stone age, I think you'd disagree. Even if we were born 100 years ago, the majority of us wouldn't have survived to our current ages or would be living with severe hardships.
Actually, I probably know a lot more about it than you do. But instead of being a douchebag like you, I’ll just point out that it was just a musing about how the very technology meant to simplify our lives actually complicates it. Now go waste your time with someone who gives a shit what you think.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 09:24:31 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook sold your data to a company that clandestinely swayed people during the 2016 elections. Twitter, on the other hand, just gave a megaphone to Trump himself, for free. Not sure which is worse.
FYI, a fb page can be moved to an unpublished state without affecting its future listing when moved back to publish. Musk's marketing peeps know their shit.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:08:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
DanDav · 1 points · Posted at 19:16:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wow, I wonder if more will follow suit. Ever since they changed the timeline algorithm there isn't exactly a huge incentive for businesses to be on FB anyway. Will be interesting to see what comes of it.
awe300 · 1 points · Posted at 19:16:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I already deleted facebook years ago. I dont need the media to notify me when large companies are doing shady shit. I am fully capable of thinking critically on my own. In this moment I am euphoric.
facebook has a pretty shitty ecosystem for apps and data security. It's also absolutely flooded with clickbait bullshit. But I don't really see much of an improvement with any other tech companies. Google literally knows every single thing about you and I have zero faith that long-term, this won't get extracted by governments or other tech companies
Elon musk doesn't understand the concept of a joke
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:32:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wouldn't have begun watching live launches of Space X rockets without the Facebook feed. For outreach, you reach people where they already are instead of making them come to you.
I would totally use whatever social media platform Musk came up with. Would probably encourage only productive conversation, none of this highlight reel advertising bs.
Man, I wish he could do something like this with Equifax.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:48:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can someone explain the Cambridge Analytica and Facebook controversy to me?
I mean doesn’t our information get used a ton anyway? What’s the exact difference between this situation, and prior to this event, when people were still saying that Facebook spies on people?
It seems to me that there really isn't anything different about CA getting the data, and anyone else who gets it, other than apparently, CA didn't get the proper permission, or they used it for things they shouldn't have, or something.
Of course, that's overly simplified and probably inaccurate, but the gist of it is - yes, you're right, our data is given out all over the place, so it's not really anything that hasn't already been happening.
Im just a noob but AFAIK the problem wasn't even what kind of data they got or bought but more that how they got that data was very unethical and not comparable to the way Obamas campaign got social media data in 2008.
CA tricked people through installing and answering some random quiz that they claimed was for a scientific Cambridge study when it was actually for a political campaign and detailed psychological profiles were created of the contestants.
I never really enjoyed Facebook back when I still had an account there. If I want to connect with family and share some pictures of my everyday life with them, I use a private album in Google Photos. Also much easier to use.
Who would have guessed that a greedy scumbag like Zuckerberg would have sold out his country to foreign interests. Greedy wealthy people have no country; countries are for people who work for a living.
I have long not had a Facebook nor do I use WhatsApp however I can not say the same about Instagram.
I actually did not know they owned Instagram either, it seems one would be in a true pickle if they wanted to completely abstain from all Facebook subsidiaries.
With them buying all these companies up too makes it harder, They even own oculus.
so in order to even use VR and still manage to abstain you would have to choose either vive, windows mixed reality, or Pimax as your vr choice.
I'm pretty sure I watched the latest rocket launch on Facebook. I'm not sure how it makes any sense for a company like that to delete their facebook page.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:11:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is it safe to assume that all the platforms down to your old Yahoo account are not selling your data though? I'd imagine Twitter being (as big as it is) is doing the same thing but I don't trust anything
Messaging platform that people use.. maybe worth that much to FB because they can mine what people message each other with all the shit thats going around right now.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:16:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
i have deactivated my fb before and i get bitched at by distant family members for shutting them out of my life...Deleting FB is not that easy for me. Deleting FB is not that easy for me. Kudos to Elon Musk
Whataboutism at its finest. Big differece he didnt do it illegally and also just because someone else did it doesnt mean you should act like a damn cry baby and not try to fix others from doing it
Neither did Cambridge analytics. I’m pointing out your stupid hypocrisy. Seriously, they both did the same thing, and no one freaked over obama doing it, in fact Facebook let them in and met with them after the election over it
Somebody was fired from tesla and spacex that evening.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:32:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Gotchya, no, not really. If let go through no fault of the employee they will be eligible for unemployment benefits. Better companies do provide a severance of some sort though. Mine does for all level of employees if down sizing a department or whatever.
I hate how every fucking article nowadays is so snarky and opinionated. What happened to just reporting the facts so I can form my own opinion? It feels insulting as a reader.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:04:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I would like to say that Tesla wasn't created by social media and they can't be controlled by it or taken down by it; but that's the exact opposite of the truth.
I honestly find all this kind of funny, everyone should have known Facebook was doing this. When my data management professor was talking about this situation the other day he made the great point that “if a company isn’t trying to sell you a product, that means you are the product”. Us and our data is Facebook’s business, not the platform itself
I quit FB in 2010, the writing on the wall was very clear, to me at least. I do have a Twitter but only lurk and never post. I think Reddit is following the path. They know every sub, post, upvote, down vote, saves and comments relating to your user name and email, the time, and the ip addresses when and where you use Reddit.
They even admitted that they know everything about their users. Question is are they selling our data for cash with associated emails. Probably.
Now what?
Zzzzzzzz such bigger issues in the world. Wish people didn’t care if some rich guy deleted a Facebook page. It’s literally not important and doesn’t alter anything.
Herd mentality. It doesn't matter if smart people think something is wrong, if one rich guy in a long tie and a baseball hat says something stupid then the herd will just follow them into the abyss.
We need a smart, rich and popular guy to tell the herd what to do or they'll continue acting like morons.
I don’t wanna be that guy, but you could switch over to a different app like Vero that charges a membership fee rather than selling data to advertisers. Facebook and Instagram aren’t the end all be all.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:44:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wait what's the reason behind deleting facebook? I mean I personally hate it but?
This seems like as good a place as any to ask. Does anyone have a solid tutorial on removing preinstalled Facebook app on phones (S6 in my case)? Best I can do is disable at present. Hook me up Musk
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:49:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It wasn’t a Facebook satellite. It was a satellite that Facebook was going to rent time on along with other companies. The satellite was owned by spacecom.
Ok so what's got me confused is, if I'm not supposed to use Facebook then what media should I use? I kinda use Twitter but basically everyone I know in my family uses Facebook to talk to each other. Some people use email. I don't like using email. So what then?
“I’m famous!” He was heard saying as he cleared off his desk...
His exit interview went like this:
“We like to achieve the impossible here. You might want to set your sights a little lower and maybe shoot for a social media presence with a little less suck.”
I hate Facebook the only reason I still have it is because I'm a class office and the rest of the officers refuse to use anything but Facebook to communicate. Smh
maybe he'll man up and delete that fucking Kimball Musk "I'm giving away my Tesla 3" fucking instagram ad that seems to be every 10th god damn post in my feed
I'm a bit tired of FB and its insistence on notification about everything. Have you tried turning notifications off? Its like navigating a puzzle. Simply nuts. I also think the idea that FB, Google, and Twitter need to protect me from evil ICOs while letting Crap from Fox, or ads about Russian women who want me to fill up my pages is just silly. I don't need corporate babysitters.
mt2oo8 · 1 points · Posted at 00:55:23 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
So how many billions did this do to Facebook’s value?
robnox · 1 points · Posted at 00:58:29 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I deleted my Facebook yesterday (not that I used it much anyway).
I am challenged. Truly. I am 52 years old. And I am old. OLD. I was born in 1966 in Dublin Ireland. I have always been interested in how things work. Guess it's because I am dyslexic. Computers were these unfathomable machines that took Professors to utilise and programme. A calling, if You will. I was truly in awe of these huge IBM machines on The Six Million Dollar Man that could do so much. I was also a little afraid. A lot afraid. So, out of pure fear in 1998 I bought my 1st pc. Hadn't a clue. The man (GOD bless Him) who sold it to me had less knowledge than I did. He was a salesman, not a technician. In 2015 I made a decision to leave my job in a semi-state body and become a computer technician. (Not my 1st technical position). I have completed my MTA (Microsoft Technical associate). Looking forward to my COMPTIA next. LIVE YOUR LIVES BITCHES.
This is just another one of his publicity stunts. The pages will be back up shortly after the news cycle moves on from the facebook "scandal."
Would be nice if he actually dedicated his energy toward delivering on the the absurd promises he makes. Then again, those are publicity stunts too. Settling Mars by 2020? pfffft.
Which is probably smart. People generally have very short attention span when it comes to this shit. Give it a few weeks and no one will be talking about this shit.
You're crazy if you think twitter hasn't been doing similar stuff with your data.
And I haven't seen anyone mention the fact that it's the owner of a competing platform that is pushing this so hard? Obviously Whatsapp wants you to delete facebook...
Pro tip: want to stay up to date with Tesla/SpaceX news? They've both got newsletters. Here's Tesla's sign up page, and Space X. I just signed up.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:22:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm subscribing to mailing lists again, something I haven't done in a decade. Being smart about it though, using throwaway freebie addresses that I don't care about and that have a low information footprint. Rant-off: Thanks for these additional lists!
This is getting ridiculous. It's like Cambridge got away with no consequences. When Target got thousands of customers data stolen from them, the ceo of target wasn't called to testify in congress. People weren't having target boycotts. I think. This was basically a con job, but instead of going after the con man we're going after other people. Like of he tricked people disguised as a cop, people are suing the police station.
They were not complicit in letting foreign propaganda on their website. They also did not sell Data to a political group. A Cambridge professor was paid by a republican douche to gather data on fb users. Users gave permission for an app to analyze their profiles, under the guise of answering a survey for a couple bucks. He then sold or gave the information to Cambridge Analytics (not a political group), which was in violation of fb policy, and they used it to advise the trump campaign. When fb found out they ordered the data destroyed. They found out days ago that the company may have not deleted it. Read an article some time.
To me, a political consulting firm that do research and analyze behavior for politics, and a political group are different. Like a superpac would be a group to me. I'm just saying that was the misunderstanding when I said they're not a political group but yes they do work supporting the right wing.
I like how every one is going after Facebook and ignoring other platforms like twitter and reddit. Take your blinders off people, every site is doing this, especially reddit. Remember the video showing how easy it was to buy your way to the frontpage?
Yes, and by focusing on only one site (like the recent news circuit about fb), it obscures the larger message that more people need to know: Every invasive practice we can imagine happens with every major site & app in existence.
We should be spreading more information about what we're really agreeing to by clicking '[agree/install/yes]'...
All the hysterics aside, I use Facebook and until everyone magically switches over to another social media site that is basically Facebook, I'm staying there.
Guess I won't be keeping up with Tesla & SpaceX on Facebook! :I
Facebook lost its relevancy all due to Greed. I am seriously considered putting together a go fund me page to create a social media site that is funded by donations
Petulant article. The guy sent a fucking car to space, does more than NASA has done recently and they still have the guts to say if he is 'the man' he has to delete his Instagram too.
Fuck facebook. Thing is evil since the day it came out. So many problems cause of it in my life. Nothing good ever came out of it from me. I knew the day it was released and all my friends got it would be trouble.
this is stupid. Sure, stop using Facebook as a coffee-clatch with your friends and use it for what it is good for: business sites, specialized interest group support, etc
Besides my author's page, I am an active member of three different scifi writing groups. the discussions range from the constructive, the informative, and the fun.
There are online forums for every single topic you can think of with tons of members who routinely contribute quality content. Fb is not doing anything new. Just makes it easier for the lazy and uninformed.
damn well that’s facebook owned. I think reddit is hunting down anti facebook comments and downvoting them to 0. Honestly they keep this up and no matter how much people like the platform people will keep creating similar ones until the right timing catches up to them and there’s an incident that causes a mass revolt. Or maybe not.
Yup, the hysterical folk are missing that crucial point. My need to a reliable single place to keep in touch with contacts trumps the prospect of some third party knowing I posted a photo of my pet recently.
We live in an age where people move frequently, change phones, jobs, etc and so forth frequently. It's not a case of living in the same town on the same street in the same house from cradle to grave.
I remember a time before the internet & Facebook were real going concerns and I can tell you, if you lost contact with someone, that was it. They were gone from your life probably never to be seen again unless someone was really intent on finding you again (like private detective obsessive) or you just got lucky and bumped into each other.
If the Forth Reich rises and takes over FB to track down thought-offenders than I'll probably burn down my social-media presence and go live off the grid or something, until then I'll risk the potential targeted advertising getting through my ad-blocks for the convenience of keeping tabs on people I want to maintain contact with.
but you're stuck in the reddit bubble, which also sucks.
this constant circlejerk that is reddit can make you think that's all there is.
Arinde · 0 points · Posted at 21:41:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And as soon as the controversy blows over he has Facebook reactivate the accounts as if nothing happened.
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 20:19:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let's be real Fake X was getting called out. I saw daily messages exposing Elon's nonsense. Perfect time to leave. By the way, 1950's book written by NAZI/NASA rocket scientist Wernher von Braun predicts a man named Elon would lead mankind to Mars. Reality is insane and honestly manipulated for the masses.
Dmart56 · -1 points · Posted at 20:21:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Realest comment I’ve seen in a while
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:41:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Biiiiiiiiig Elon Musk. I mean, this guy. Do something. Seriously. What's he ever done?
Stop telling me about how you’re going to change the world and just change the world already.
People are thinking Oprah should run for office yet this fucking guy has it within himself to not only win that office but actually do a great job too.
Well my comment may be forever lost, but the good news is, at least he finally saw the pages. Not quite sure how he had permission to delete them though.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:46:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I disliked him for a while as someone who overhyped futuristic gimmicks or concepts for inflation to his planned investments, but now.....I LOEV HIM!
I think I heard somewhere that social media, media, and news runs in a cycle. That eventually social media will become too popular and run itself into the ground and traditional media will spurt back to life. However, in this case, it seems that social media is just plain old disappearing. Kinda unnerving given the recently huge decline in traditional media. There are definitely some private companies coming along to disrupt the news market but nothing substantially bipartisan or anything like that. Like on YouTube, I really enjoy Philip DeFranco but at times his biases sway what he says to where it gets a bit annoying. Noting is ever gonna stop biases from getting in the way but it bugs me.
I'm really interested to see how the future deals with spreading information.
Both sites will be online in 6 months, it would be almost impossible for them to close servers for either in less than a year. You're right long-term about PornHub though, this is going to be interesting to see to say the least.
Well I figure since I just deleted Facebook permanently and there are aleast millions jumping on that band wagon it's not long before the only people still there are just celebrity brands or public figures.
So Facebook is probably going to die just by going broke because nobody gets on.
If they make it another year I'd be surprised.
YouTube though there days are numbered.
They recently attacked small content creators like me "mr42ndstblvd"
And then they have made rules about the gun crowd.
There really pissing on the people right now.
Without content creators they have nothing.
Would you get on YouTube if it was nothing but let's plays and conspiracy theory videos??
Because when real creators leave who make actual videos and not just click bait . That's what you have left.
Now I know that me leaving YouTube dosent amount to Anything my videos suck.
But im more than happy to leave and be apart of YouTube's demise.
There pissing off bigger people than me and those big creators have alot of pull with there viewers.
Imagine a channel thT has a million subs and regularly get 500k views says there dropping YouTube. There subs and watchers are going to follow them.
How do you think YouTube is going to be affected by loosing one creator who pulls that much attention.
Now that creator tells one and o e more tells 200 and eventually we are fucking YouTube in the ass and bending them over where it hurts.
That's not Even thinking about all the small creators who will leave in mass.
Alrighty then, so after a decade of the whole "social media" bullshit everywhere in a matter of weeks or even days Facebook became so uncool it's actively being attacked?
Looks like someone want's to fuck with Zuckerberg's thirst for (political) power. Also I don't know how but I suspect it's related with Putin-Trump Corporation.
Can someone please fill me in? I'm out or loop, why would deleting Facebook be a thing?
Retb14 · 1 points · Posted at 21:29:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’m not sure about why deleting Facebook pages is a thing now. (Probably because of the massive data leak or something.) but tesla and spaceX never had an official Facebook page so musk had them removed.
So these days all you have to got to do is put Musk in the title and the masses will love it, eh? getting tired of this really fast people, stop hyping everything he does, but I guess thats just an american way to live.
Not true at all. There's more than one platform, and the marketing staff in charge of Facebook would almost certainly be managing the Twitter/Instagram/etc accounts/pages.
Or they have outside agencies managing the Facebook accounts, which simply makes an agency's workload even easier as there's less on their plate and they're paid on a monthly retainer.
Musk is o dodgy and sketchy, you just can't trust this guy. One time he is super smart, then he is an idiot, then smart again...he is just a straw man, like Zuckerberg. I mean, the dude has a Tesla motors and rips on Tesla and says Edison was the guy...then apologies and donates $ to Tesla foundation. Never cleared the air about the Paypal scandal. One more of those we don't need.
Good. Why the fuck would we be investing billions of dollars to go to the moon or mars when people on Earth starve without clean water. What is so awesome about the moon/mars anyway?
Because I am a 19 year old kid with a thousand dollars to my name and all I can really do is voice my support and philosophies online in hopes that other people agree and choose to follow the same beliefs.
However, hopefully one day you will realize that people need to be responsible for themselves. Meaning, most world hunger issues could be solved by having responsible sex and realizing that it's not someone else's problem to feed a child that you brought into this world.
Kid, nothing is fair in this world. There is some real evil shit that goes down outside of your front door every day....death, rape, robbery, the list goes on.
sorry to break it to you but there's nothing you can do about it.
It would be fantastic if every human had a warm bed, a full stomach and love but it's just not the way of the world.
Accept the fact that you are probably pretty well off and do what you can to help your fellow man when you can but look out for #1
Also, be responsible with sex, because sex is what creates life, if you are not able to be responsible for the consiquenses then don't have sex. It's not someone else's problem to care and feed a life that was created by an irresponsible person.
If you can't relate irresponsible sex with world hunger you have a lot to learn.
Can someone give me like a summary of who Elon musk is? Like does he own Tesla and spaceX? Is he a scientist? I’m just interested in understanding who he is without having to read his who wiki page
I'm just pointing out one of the few bright spots in the history of African American immigrant contributions to society beyond beat boxing and peanut butter. I always like to remind people that he is a rare African success story among so so so many African nightmares.
It's best not to focus on who brought what to america.... :/ There are entire isles in Walgreen's dedicated to just one of the horrible things Europe sent over among all the other horrible things we still haven't been able to shake.
He should delete his own company. Tesla hasn’t been profitable, its burning through tons of cash, he cant make enough cars and the ones that does roll off production line have quality and reliability issues.
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TooShiftyForYou · 25947 points · Posted at 16:57:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It started when Musk replied to a tweet from earlier in the week from WhatsApp cofounder Brian Acton, where he tweeted "It is time. #deletefacebook." Facebook bought WhatsApp for $19 billion in 2014, making Acton a billionaire.
On Friday morning, Musk answered Acton's tweet with "What's Facebook?"
"Delete SpaceX page on Facebook if you're the man?" a fan chimed in.
"I didn't realize there was one. Will do," Musk replied.
In subsequent tweets, Musk reiterated that the SpaceX page "will be gone soon" and that he "literally never seen it even once."
Less than 30 minutes after that tweet, the official Facebook page for SpaceX, along with that of Tesla, vanished.
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CD_4M · 22094 points · Posted at 18:39:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
RIP Tesla's social media team
mostlybadopinions · 8056 points · Posted at 18:56:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You are all responsible for one character per tweet.
penFTW · 1988 points · Posted at 19:03:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/AskOuija
TerrainIII · 776 points · Posted at 19:10:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/AskTesla
Sporkfoot · 746 points · Posted at 19:32:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/ChuckTesta
Goopy_Child · 411 points · Posted at 20:07:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Now that is a name I have not seen in YEARS. Wow.
IcarusBen · 204 points · Posted at 20:51:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is that... original content I see?
...nope. Just Chuck Testa.
JorjEade · 13 points · Posted at 23:44:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No "just".
Just "Chuck Testa".
LoonAtticRakuro · 1 points · Posted at 05:58:39 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instructions unclear, Chuck Testa now Supreme Court Justice.
NightmaresInNeurosis · 1 points · Posted at 08:01:42 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/LJP1DphOWPs
Of the 5 nopes, 2 are followed by separate sentences, 2 by "It's just Chuck Testa" and 1 by "Chuck Testa".
one_quarter_portion · 34 points · Posted at 20:21:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Obi-Wan Kenobi?
Sw429 · 59 points · Posted at 20:23:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nope! Chuck Testa.
IsNotPolitburo · 20 points · Posted at 20:34:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I bet you thought this youngling was alive...
I_LOVE_ME_SOME_DUCKS · 5 points · Posted at 20:47:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This took a very weird turn very quick.
MrWeirdoFace · 6 points · Posted at 21:08:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
49 times we fought that beast (You're old man and me).
TisNotMyMainAccount · 1 points · Posted at 21:41:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Every day I worry all day
MrWeirdoFace · 2 points · Posted at 23:41:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
about what's waitin' in the bushes of love.
Doctor_of_Recreation · 5 points · Posted at 21:13:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
All the Tide commercials made me think, “Nope! Just Chuck Testa!”
ausernameilike · 4 points · Posted at 23:40:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well considering he does taxidermy a dead meme is just the medium in which he is most comfortable
KimJongIlSunglasses · 3 points · Posted at 21:38:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nope. Chuck Testa.
gizmo1024 · 2 points · Posted at 22:40:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
NOPE! Chuck Testa!
PM_me_XboxGold_Codes · 2 points · Posted at 05:48:03 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s an older name, but it checks out.
NunchuckTesta · 5 points · Posted at 21:17:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You rang?
darexinfinity · 3 points · Posted at 20:14:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/Nope
Swedneck · 9 points · Posted at 20:03:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/ChuckTesla
JimmyLegs50 · 2 points · Posted at 22:37:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/MtShasta
kory_dc · 1 points · Posted at 22:02:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/chucktesla
proudlyinappropriate · 1 points · Posted at 23:19:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/nope
vamp1reweekdays · 1 points · Posted at 01:15:34 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
DEEP cut there.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 20:11:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let the meme rest.
soaliar · 61 points · Posted at 19:42:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/AskLuigi
barrelranger1 · 13 points · Posted at 19:55:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
can you burn a Luigi board?
daftvalkyrie · 9 points · Posted at 20:00:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Aaahh, the preganananant guy did more?! YES!
_dakdaddy_ · 1 points · Posted at 00:37:11 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Help pls! : Ouija Board (Wega Board) help pls!?
ItsameaLuiggi · 5 points · Posted at 19:57:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What do you need?
luigi9002 · 3 points · Posted at 20:46:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is this where the meeting is being held?
Mouthshitter · 2 points · Posted at 20:16:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Oooooooo" what could that mean?
cjpack · 4 points · Posted at 20:29:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What the actual fuck is that sub.
SaguaroAD · 1 points · Posted at 20:31:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/AskLuigi
McLovin804 · 11 points · Posted at 19:16:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Like 4chan writing letters to the president.
RockyMountainHighGuy · 4 points · Posted at 19:47:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sorry what?
Lifeguard4Life · 1 points · Posted at 22:51:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
a Done, give me moneys plz
umlaut · 1 points · Posted at 20:51:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Won't someone think about all of these poor unpaid interns that could lose their jobs over this?
ConeCandy · 1624 points · Posted at 18:48:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This was my first thought.
Pascalwb · 2823 points · Posted at 18:57:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yea, must have been fun day. They are working and them bum gone. CEO just deleted your job.
5444 · 1791 points · Posted at 18:59:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There's Twitter and Instagram though.
nerdyhandle · 899 points · Posted at 18:59:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think they have a flikr too.
zelman · 1358 points · Posted at 19:00:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
...and weirdly, a Tinder?
Cobaas · 1025 points · Posted at 19:02:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
...and weirdly, a Grindr?
Akkiruk · 1329 points · Posted at 19:03:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And a largely unmoderated account on farmersonly.com
guacamully · 438 points · Posted at 19:06:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don't forget Christian Mingle In Space
hendrix67 · 8 points · Posted at 19:07:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What about BlackPeopleMeetInSpace.com
lesser_panjandrum · 5 points · Posted at 19:26:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Or the adventurous BluePeopleMeetInSpace.com
We'll bang, ok?
joshmaaaaaaans · 6 points · Posted at 19:34:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've seen them about chatting to people on Habbo Hotel.
ripAccount35 · 2 points · Posted at 19:49:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don't forget that JDate!
cjpack · 5 points · Posted at 20:30:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Or MartianMingle.com
Karrion8 · 3 points · Posted at 20:16:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And the Russians keep trolling it with a fake profile with Angela Merkel's pic saying "I want to touch your rocket."
Marvelous_Marv · 2 points · Posted at 19:32:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Also FetLife
FrostingFlames · 2 points · Posted at 19:35:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I even found them on e621!
Talks_To_Cats · 2 points · Posted at 19:51:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Zero matches near you.
PrometheusSmith · 2 points · Posted at 20:50:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Right now it's just a few people on the space station and that one guy flying his car towards Mars, but there's always room for the community to grow!
guacamully · 1 points · Posted at 20:57:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep, it's small right now, but the upside is out of this world!
Doctor_Rainbow · 2 points · Posted at 23:00:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon is the only result no matter what you put in.
_BLACKHAWKS_88 · 1 points · Posted at 20:03:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Might need to make a Martian Mingle soon..
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:34:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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briankaufmann1958 · 1 points · Posted at 20:36:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Also Farmers Only.com
deadlybydsgn · 1 points · Posted at 20:37:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Mormons in Space makes a lot more sense...
OhBestThing · 1 points · Posted at 22:20:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But they don't believe in space!
Szyz · 1 points · Posted at 00:23:03 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hey! turns out there are horny christian singles near him right now!
dano8801 · 8 points · Posted at 19:46:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don't forget JDate motherfuckers.
imaqdodger · 3 points · Posted at 20:45:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I saw someone on tinder today that had farmersonly in their bio. I didn’t realize it was a real thing, thought it was a joke
davydooks · 3 points · Posted at 19:24:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure this is just code for whitesonly.com
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:24:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You don’t have to be lonely...
PM_ME_2_PM_ME · 2 points · Posted at 20:17:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I laughed at this site's name because I thought it was a joke. I clicked and and it is a real site and I laughed even harder. So much laugh density in a single comment!
Akkiruk · 2 points · Posted at 22:01:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
City folks just don’t get it.
farawaychicken · 3 points · Posted at 20:18:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
and my axe?
eyehate · 1 points · Posted at 20:01:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You don't have to be lonely...
sroasa · 1 points · Posted at 23:35:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Those cows put up with a lot of shit in the early days.
hostile65 · 0 points · Posted at 19:44:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Watch my reusable rocket land in your crop circle."
jarredshere · 304 points · Posted at 19:05:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Actually that one is The Boring Company's ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Ars3nic · 3 points · Posted at 19:52:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The Boning Company
mark-five · 5 points · Posted at 19:34:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't recommend the flamethrower
ConstipatedNinja · 1 points · Posted at 22:47:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why not? It's flaming!
LiberatedCapsicum · 4 points · Posted at 19:44:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Their Club Penguin team is infamous.
Redemption47 · 8 points · Posted at 19:07:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Show me your rocket ship big boy.
Icekittycat7 · 2 points · Posted at 19:29:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
“Looking for a 18+ Jedi to dock in my space port. Can host, bring Vodka and space suits.”
VileTouch · 2 points · Posted at 19:54:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
don't forget the towels
Icekittycat7 · 1 points · Posted at 19:57:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh yeah, towels and lightsabers! Don’t forget those!
collapsing_sanity · 3 points · Posted at 20:30:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And fittingly, a MySpace?
BlasterShow · 1 points · Posted at 21:29:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh shit, bring it back Elon. Technology can handle the glitter and Papa Roach now, right?
TopHat1935 · 1 points · Posted at 19:17:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
A hoagie?
sixrustyspoons · 1 points · Posted at 19:33:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep its app for finding sandwiches, you should download it.
Timedoutsob · 1 points · Posted at 19:34:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
a tesla grinder account would be hilarious.
Someone make up some funny tesla tinder chats for /r/tinder
mutemutiny · 1 points · Posted at 19:38:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I believe I saw them on Jswipe once. I swiped right
needstostopburning · 1 points · Posted at 19:38:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not that there’s anything wrong with that
montysgreyhorse · 1 points · Posted at 19:39:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is that weird though? Can't get much bigger than a rocket ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
hostile65 · 1 points · Posted at 19:43:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Large rocket ready for relaunch... Discrete location for observation available as well. "
Ozyman_Dias · 1 points · Posted at 19:55:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
...and weirdly, a Spinstr?
InfamousMike · 1 points · Posted at 20:09:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And my Axe!
littlegoateedman · 1 points · Posted at 20:35:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As an aside, this needs to stop being a punchline.
codeman2828 · 1 points · Posted at 20:43:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not weird at all, I mean this is Elon we’re talking about.
sporkhandsknifemouth · 1 points · Posted at 22:19:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Look this whole space x thing is clearly about hooking up with aliens, you gotta take what comes.
knobbbbbbbbbby · 1 points · Posted at 22:33:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
...and weirdly, Bumble?
Thrawn1123 · 64 points · Posted at 19:05:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Looking for other flaming-hot explorers to have rapid unscheduled disassembly together.
insertacoolname · 55 points · Posted at 19:03:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hit Elon up on grindr last week.
theearthvolta · 7 points · Posted at 19:17:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's all about his musk.
theforkofdamocles · 1 points · Posted at 20:29:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Will do.
HoraBorza · 2 points · Posted at 22:30:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Where do you park your DeLorean?
theforkofdamocles · 1 points · Posted at 02:10:44 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Park? Where I Grind, I don’t need parking.
Amyndris · 4 points · Posted at 19:04:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What's their IRC channel?
WizardSleeves118 · 2 points · Posted at 19:03:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Their Grindr is where it's at, though a little too heady for my taste.
Just "Musk." Makes me need a shower.
j33pwrangler · 2 points · Posted at 19:04:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're thinking of SpaceSex
Another_Bill_Door · 2 points · Posted at 19:04:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon Musk asked for £5 and then unmatched me.
shadow_burn · 1 points · Posted at 19:02:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don't you need Facebook for that?
hexcor · 1 points · Posted at 19:03:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And their Grnder page is too notch.
Trev_Holland · 1 points · Posted at 19:03:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don't forget about their Grindr profile. ...I know I haven't. ;)
AerThreepwood · 1 points · Posted at 19:05:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I swiped right.
Nayre_Trawe · 1 points · Posted at 19:06:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It is quite difficult to meet people in outer space, or so I have heard.
nerdyhandle · 1 points · Posted at 19:27:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is it wierd that I would totally Netflix and Chill with a Falcon 9?
ethidium_bromide · 1 points · Posted at 20:09:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I would actually download Tinder
Roadrage00 · 1 points · Posted at 21:15:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Where else is a Tesla gonna find the perfect John Deere tractor?
Mrqueue · 1 points · Posted at 23:57:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Domino's in the UK has a tinder so you can always end up with a hot date 😑
Gredenis · 1 points · Posted at 19:04:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If I'd come across Tesla on Tinder, that would be my superlike.
ukkosreidet · 1 points · Posted at 19:04:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
One can only hope
Legionof1 · 2 points · Posted at 19:20:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I want to follow them on google +...
nsfwmodeme · 1 points · Posted at 19:49:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There's always their MySpace one. And their Geocities page.
Corronchilejano · 2 points · Posted at 21:02:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I thought this was a joke
nerdyhandle · 2 points · Posted at 21:30:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Flickr is actually pretty good. I thinks it's one of the few image sites that allow you to upload RAW images. A lot of professional photographers keep their work on it. You can even restrict access to your images
PopeTheReal · 1 points · Posted at 19:46:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He may not know about those either
manubfr · 337 points · Posted at 19:01:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Isn’t instagram also owned by Facebook? If so should they be consistent and delete those as well? Should Elon delete his instagram accoubt if he has one?
SirRosstopher · 173 points · Posted at 19:02:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's less the company and more the platform.
clevverguy · 308 points · Posted at 19:07:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why? Shouldn't we assume Facebook also uses instagram the exact same way?
[deleted] · 292 points · Posted at 19:17:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes but deleting insta doesn't help PR
seanlax5 · 71 points · Posted at 19:41:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk might be like 90% of my friends and not realize that FB owns Insta.
Galactic · 6 points · Posted at 20:55:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Somehow I doubt Elon doesn't know this...
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 22:26:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why? He didn't know his own company had a facebook.
He really does have better things to do.
Umitencho · 2 points · Posted at 19:46:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Same, found out a few weeks ago myself. Glad I kept photos of myself and anything political off of Instagram. You can have the photos of my cooking all you like, not gonna cook Putin dinner no matter how much he likes the look of my honey glazed salmon
seanlax5 · 3 points · Posted at 19:53:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My biggest concern with Instagram is that I know they keep track of what you search. In certain places these days, Insta can be a really useful tool.
Umitencho · 5 points · Posted at 20:04:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Given where my mother works, my data has been tracked for a long time so I am used to my data no longer being private among other revelations. I just have no desire for Marc Zuckerfool to use my data for $$$ & to manipulate me towards his investors political leanings.
Akkiruk · 2 points · Posted at 22:04:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Where she work tho?
ausernameilike · 3 points · Posted at 00:02:51 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Right? Like probably some high up govt job or nuclear technician or some shit, but you dont say that in a post then leave it at that
Slaisa · 2 points · Posted at 20:20:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
oly shit it does?
SumBuddyPlays · 2 points · Posted at 21:24:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I highly doubt that.
kngroo · 2 points · Posted at 21:24:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I assure you that’s not the case
nauticalsandwich · 8 points · Posted at 23:33:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I like Instagram a lot, but I never quite understood why it won out in the early days of social media photo posting. Other apps and platforms at the time had better filters, better resolution, more options for aspect ratios, and more versatile social options. I think Instagram just beat other apps to the punch with userbase by getting the app promoted by high-profile people on Twitter. It's unfortunate that products that are mediocre, relative to their competition, win out based on popularity contests. Sometimes I wish more people were more ruthless in their consumerism, and actually tried out more products and weighed them against each other and then conversed with their friends about the best one to use. I think we'd all have much better products if that were the case.
AntiSharkSpray · 6 points · Posted at 00:59:24 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's called network effects. Platforms like Facebook, reddit, or even operating systems like Windows all have network effects. Basically the more users you gain on the platform, the more valuable the platform is.
One of the strategies for competing in a market with network effects is to just be first (mainstream) product, because once you gain critical mass, it doesn't matter how shitty you are because your customers aren't willing to switch to another platform.
nauticalsandwich · 2 points · Posted at 02:00:15 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I know the phenomenon. I'm just saying I wish people were more discerning out of the gate and willing to suffer the small cost of entertaining alternatives.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 00:01:52 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
UX and marketing is everything
vincentlyethiamfatt · 2 points · Posted at 02:53:05 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think part of the reason was because it was an iOS exclusive in the beginning. Back then it was considered cool to be associated with Apple devices.. You know, part of the IN crowd..
CrimsonBrit · 8 points · Posted at 20:11:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Boom goes the dynamite. It’s not like they deleted the Facebook page because of information being sold
ethidium_bromide · 0 points · Posted at 20:24:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It matters what you do, not why you do it.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 20:25:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's actually not true at all
them1lfman · 1 points · Posted at 03:12:03 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Regardless,he didn't have to do it.
icecore · 1 points · Posted at 21:06:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The end justifies the means?
gonnabetoday · 111 points · Posted at 19:18:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
May as well delete all social media since they are all selling your info.
Insta also is less strict. At least when I created my account. I used a fake name and my spam email address, I think it’s much harder to do that on Facebook.
clintmurphy72 · 29 points · Posted at 19:47:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Isn't reddit social media?
[deleted] · 14 points · Posted at 19:53:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes, with a false sense of anonymity.
The_Grubby_One · 6 points · Posted at 20:11:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit's social media the same way forums are social media.
Eustace_Savage · 3 points · Posted at 20:36:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The admins are certainly trying to make it social media with their new reddit redesign.
pussyaficianado · 4 points · Posted at 20:13:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’d describe Reddit more like anti-social media
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:35:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:39:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It has but there is nothing that forces it to be a real email, you do not have to verify it, same with instagram
Eustace_Savage · 1 points · Posted at 21:24:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It has.
ImThatGuyToday · 12 points · Posted at 20:02:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Incredibly easy rather. The only Facebook I have left is a fake one. It has had 1 friend for years.
gr8ful123 · 8 points · Posted at 20:40:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not just selling your info, but from this guys tweet/thread he downloaded his stuff from FB, and FB kept regular phone calls (and durations names etc of said calls) from his phone, and no these were not "fb calls" but from the actual phone itself - link: https://twitter.com/dylanmckaynz/status/976369669874491392
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:58:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What's interesting is how many people this is shocking. FB Messenger explicitly asked for permission to log calls, and even has a toggle for it in its settings under continuous call and SMS matching, along with Phone Events.
AtmospherE117 · 7 points · Posted at 20:07:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Plus it's limited in what you share. You aren't taking quizzes etc on instagram
sir_moleo · 2 points · Posted at 01:24:41 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nope. It's just as easy. Just gotta have an extra email address that doesn't already have an account tied to it. The email address is literally the only thing you can't just make up.
dano8801 · 5 points · Posted at 19:47:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What? Why? There's no difficulty in using a throwaway email address you just created and signing up for a totally fake Facebook profile.
[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 19:52:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But it is not throwaway really. They know who you actually are. They have cookies that track your browsing habits, sucks up personal data you provide to trusted sites, know your IP address, etc. Once they realize this insta account matches that gmail, this address, that reddit account, this FB account it all goes into your dossier that is then sold.
gonnabetoday · 2 points · Posted at 19:49:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don’t know I haven’t tried to create a Facebook account since before 2010 but I heard they verify your info (like cellphone)? Could be wrong though.
ethidium_bromide · 3 points · Posted at 20:43:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah. I really did not like it when facebook tried to make me download an app and provide my phone number. Out of pure stubbornness i refused to do either, they were easy to bypass at first but with every update they made it a little harder. I had to go to desktop mode if i wanted to message etc. So all this time there was a space at the top of the page asking for my phone number and telling me everyone else who had. After one update facebook basically gave me the finger and stuck their tongue out af me, as suddenly my phone number was entered into the bar in grey text waiting for me to hit the submit button, every single time i logged in after that. I had never downloaded an app for facebook or snapchat or insta and never logged into the default facebook app on my phone that was undeletable. I had never even given my number in a facebook message.
TL;DR those fuckers somehow combed data and found my phone number with enough certainty of the accuracy to type it in for me in the space i had been ignoring for like a year.
I havent been on for probably almost a year now, but i have to admit that i miss seeing my friends babies and the ease of keeping in contact with old friends (dont really miss hearing the gorey updates throughout labor or details about childrens bowel movements, though)
writtenunderduress · 1 points · Posted at 21:03:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Last year I tried to create an account and FB said I needed a gov't issued ID to attach to the account. Yeah, not doing that.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:24:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's nearly impossible to have Facebook sock accounts now. When opening an account they ask for a picture and phone number now.
Arreeyem · 3 points · Posted at 20:13:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, yes, we probably should stop using social media. I know many people who live perfectly happy lives without it. The only people who truly benefit from social media are businesses, and the lack of regulation on business social media use is gross.
gonnabetoday · 3 points · Posted at 20:19:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wouldn’t say just businesses.
My mother (50s) recently found her entire elementary school class (they are from Peru and are all over the world now) and they were able to have a reunion last year. That’s pretty cool if you ask me, and would not have been possible without social media since they had all lost contact.
lbayo12 · 1 points · Posted at 13:32:37 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
What kind of regulation are you talking about?
Arreeyem · 1 points · Posted at 15:13:47 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
For one, there is very little advertising restrictions as far as I can tell. Ads disguised as articles or even people are rampant. There's also the sickinging amount of facebook scams. I myself paid $40 for a star projector, only for it to never show up. People flooded the page with comments of "SCAM" and "DO NOT BUY" about 1 month later (when they should have showed up.) About 2 weeks later, the exact same ad showed up on my page, except this time the site disallowed comments. Luckily I used paypal so I was able to get my money back rather easily, but the fact that they were still allowed to advertise was unbelievable.
ethidium_bromide · 1 points · Posted at 20:28:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh they arent just selling in this case. They are also irresponsibly compiling massive amounts of detailed data on people.. 30 years ago this would be considered a poorly veiled surveillance company. There was a profile of every American made by cambridge analytica, with tons of data points (more data points depending how much you like ot share or react) that are scarily accurate. And cambridge analytica was doing what Obamas 2012 campaign did. Facebook knew after the fact but did nothing to protect its users from what happened 4 years later. I dont think people understand just how much information can be derived from liking a few brands and celebrities and reacting to some posts, let alone excessive engagement intertwined in your daily life commonly done by many Americans. And there are no rules or regulations about what can be done with this data.
Edit: And once these things are sold, all this information combined with seperate data on you from other sources just paints an even more accurate, complete, and certain profile of you.
I am just waiting for employers to start using this shit in the next 5 years. (Unless a huge majority of the country collectively decides to take it seriously and put their foot down saying it is unnacceptable how things currently stand). But it will be really easy if someone who doesnt want changes decides they want to work to prevent them, because they can analyze this data and determine what strategy works best for whom and target the message that reaches you to evoke a certain reaction.
john300dpi · 1 points · Posted at 22:22:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
With facial recognition in photos becoming much more powerful (thanks in large part to a Facebook themselves), if there's a single photo of your face on your account (or possibly even a friend's account), it wouldn't be that hard for them to figure out who you are, and still track you.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:40:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Social media is supposed to be like my wife on a business trip. I know she’s fucking around on me but she at least tries to hide it.
Bears_On_Stilts · -5 points · Posted at 20:08:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In twenty years, people will either remember or accept social media as a right-wing based phenomenon.
Voodoobones · 10 points · Posted at 19:40:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People put a LOT more personal data on Facebook than Instagram.
shh-hiding · 5 points · Posted at 19:23:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah the advertising side and all the data is through the Facebook platform, there isn’t any difference when it comes to all that
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 22:24:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Does Instagram have quiz apps used to gather people's information and then access the data of all the friends of the people who answer quizzes followed by using all of that data and those ties to then present specific personalities with individually targeted propaganda messages to suppress or create voters?
I don't think it does.
It's the platform. And we should stay on-message with this, so that no platform as dangerous as it has become ever occurs again.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:53:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
IG as far as I know doesn't collect the same level of information on it's users. That's the thing with Facebook, they know EVERYTHING about you.
REMEMBER__MY__NAME · 2 points · Posted at 20:13:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is true
kpajamas · 2 points · Posted at 20:58:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't know if that's a fair assumption. Plenty of brands that belong to the same company operate relatively independently.
FootfallsEcho · 2 points · Posted at 20:59:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The data instagram alone collects is limited. If you don’t have a connected Facebook, they can target products at you but that’s about it... for now.
SirRosstopher · 7 points · Posted at 19:13:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Cambridge Analytica*
Facebook is the one being used here, not the instigator.
and honestly no I've not seen any political stuff on Insta besides what my friends have uploaded themselves. Although I only ever look at the friends timeline.
[deleted] · 10 points · Posted at 19:55:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It is not just Cambridge. Obama did a similar thing in 2012 but it did not have the Russian element so it was not a controversy, which makes sense. I am not trying to say the two are identical or comparable, just that FB intentionally set up leaky buckets because that is good for business. The abuse was inevitable, if not intended.
SirRosstopher · 1 points · Posted at 20:03:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm from the UK so we haven't really been looking at the Russian element, and it was British news that broke it.
It's more the use of deliberately false attack ads and the quote from CA that elections should be fought on fears, not facts. That and the offering of entraping the other candidates to the undercover reporter.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:14:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I thought Brexit had a Russian element as well? Did it not? See here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/10/russian-influence-brexit-vote-detailed-us-senate-report
SirRosstopher · 3 points · Posted at 21:20:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh it most likely did, but the British news haven't been covering that so it isn't a current controversy.
The Channel 4 investigation was originally supposed to be 5 parts, Trump was part 3, and then the other two never came out. They're rumoured to be on last years election and Brexit (I wonder why our Brexiteer PM wouldn't want those going out?).
ethidium_bromide · 1 points · Posted at 21:33:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It is way more than that- what you refer to doesnt even dip its little toe into the data harvesting. This is seperate from the “troll army” that sought to spread misinformation and discord. I dont know about the British side though, I am just saying this to emphasize that it is way deeper than what you said. They would know who to target and how in anyway they wanted for nearly every single American because of the data they harvested and the algorithms that allows them to create.
SirRosstopher · 1 points · Posted at 21:47:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah I thought that was a given.
But still, with algorithms that could happen on any platform, all I'm saying is it's dangerous that people are blaming Facebook specifically rather than Cambridge Analytica, because then they'll only have their guard up on Facebook.
If the emphasis is on a third party (which were actually the ones doing the targeting) then people will keep their guard up on all platforms. Twitter hasn't been mentioned by the news cycle but it absolutely happened there too.
The attention being directed soley on Facebook distracts from the real shady shit.
ethidium_bromide · 2 points · Posted at 20:56:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook is irresponsibly allowing it to happen and are profiting, they are absolutely responsible. I dont need to mention Obama 2012 because another responent to you already did.
Remember when facebook added options so you could “react” instead of just “liking”? Why do you think they did that? That provides a wealth of knowledge to better predict peoples reactions to different things, and facebook has the power to target and test people to compile more data on them. Cambridge Analytica just beat them at their own game, but make no mistake that the massive amount of data was available to anyone because of facebooks actions. And they took no preventative or corrective actions after knowing what Obamas 2012 campaign did.
JuanAngryRedditor · 2 points · Posted at 19:40:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
because they do. On the Facebook Ads platform, under the Ad Set level, you can cross post your ads to instagram. FB and IG's data, and advertising is intertwined. If any of you have worked with Fb ads before, and seen how you can target wealthier zip codes, 'engaged shoppers', and a million other sub-sub-sub-sub(....) categories, you'd understand how Russia did what they did quite clearly, or anyone spreading fake news/shit ecommerce products for that matter.
RockyMountainHighGuy · 1 points · Posted at 19:48:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No, because they don’t.
sags95 · 1 points · Posted at 20:07:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not quite. In a technical sense the abuses were related to the a lack of oversight for facebook's Graph API. The API is the access point for user data, and a user's interaction on pages and photos. Instagram's API is not nearly as robust.
MrWolfandMamaBear · 1 points · Posted at 20:55:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s unlikely, since Instagram has less potential for data mining, but i suppose if you wanted to stop supporting the company and giving them Ad revenue deleting Instagram would help.
charlzandre · 1 points · Posted at 05:06:43 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Only if you assume their Facebook and Instagram have similar guts. That's possible; I don't know. But it's not like all these social media platforms are built on the same skeleton, so they have different exploits, meaning an insecure Facebook app doesn't imply an insecure Instagram app.
ThePeckerOfPriapus · 1 points · Posted at 19:54:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No, its about data and psychological profiling, which can happen on any platform.
SirRosstopher · 3 points · Posted at 19:58:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh, so you agree that being worried that Instagram is owned by Facebook is silly then? It can happen on any platform and Facebook weren't the ones actively doing it, Cambridge Analytica were using the Facebook platform (and most likely Twitter also) to do it.
Instagram being owned by Facebook isn't part of the issue at all.
ThePeckerOfPriapus · 1 points · Posted at 21:30:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No, the issue is that Facebook has proven itself untrustworthy with our data. That reputation then applies to any platform that Facebook owns.
It was Facebook who then provided user data to CA, (leaked/sold/w.e.). So you can expect Facebook to do the same on any platform it owns. It's more about the company, and Facebook's willingness to provide said data for such political targeting to occur.
Any platform could be ripe for data abuse, and it's up to the companies and their morals to decide how to handle it. That in turn will drive consumer participation on those platforms.
HLef · 1 points · Posted at 12:19:34 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you have Instagram or WhatsApp, or use an Oculus then Facebook still gets your data.
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrpp · 1 points · Posted at 22:04:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
??? Maybe for Elon’s PR purposes. But there is no difference as far as data is concerned, who runs the platform (Mark), and how it is used. But I guess that doesn’t fit some people’s narrative.
As for the information you put on either platform, well, that’s completely up to you.
manchegoo · 2 points · Posted at 22:20:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Guess you didn’t read the article. Point was made there.
LostWoodsInTheField · 1 points · Posted at 20:50:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yup owned by facebook. That is a pretty big chunk of peoples internet activity right there, specially communications with others.
_QUAKE_ · 1 points · Posted at 22:31:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Would he have to delete his oculus rift as well then?
FuriouslyKindHermes · 1 points · Posted at 05:00:08 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well its more about utility. Facebook has become a place where degenerative psuedo-science and inconsistent and usually plainly wrong ideologies (that just express different groups’ psychological pathologies) stream into your face. WHY subject yourself to that degenerative process? Unknowningly maybe. Instagram isnt quite the same.
gopala_ · 1 points · Posted at 19:31:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Celebrities and Celeb Culture cannot exist if they don't have tools to invade everyone's mind every 10 minutes.
Which tool (fb/youtube/twitter/insta/whateva) they use hardly matters.
As long as the public craves celebrities like the faithful crave god the tools to make contact with them will always exist.
greymalken · 1 points · Posted at 21:34:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And WhatsApp. So whatever that dude that sold out to face book is bitching about he's a fucking hypocrite that took their money too.
Myworkaccount1337 · 8 points · Posted at 19:03:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook owns instagram so...
abeuscher · 6 points · Posted at 19:30:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And LinkedIn, where they're likely being tasked with recruiting efforts. And the other 20 or so channels that are available. Social media is a lot bigger than Facebook, and there's probably more work in social media if it goes away, not less.
textposts_only · 3 points · Posted at 19:01:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
and reddit.
chris92315 · 3 points · Posted at 19:08:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you are taking a stand against Facebook why wouldn't you also delete your (Facebook owned) Instagram?
steamwhy · 5 points · Posted at 19:00:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Probably don't need 4 people to do a 2 man job..
schwibbity · 2 points · Posted at 19:37:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram is also owned by Facebook, though, isn't it?
Andy_B_Goode · 2 points · Posted at 19:45:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And, you know ... reddit. You know, that site that's constantly talking about Elon, Tesla and SpaceX? Seems like an important place for their social media team to focus on if you ask me.
The_Grubby_One · 2 points · Posted at 20:09:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And Instagram's owned by Facebook.
HelloImJump · 2 points · Posted at 20:19:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
tfw facebook owns instagram
Peace_Love_Smoke · 2 points · Posted at 19:00:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's what the Twitter and Instagram Teams are for though..
WreckweeM · 2 points · Posted at 19:02:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram is owned by Facebook
cboogie · 1 points · Posted at 19:43:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Leave it to Reddit to think a marketing and PR social media team's sole responsibility is posting to facebook all day.
ToddtheRugerKid · 1 points · Posted at 19:45:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And argueably the most badass Youtube channel.
LowCharity · 1 points · Posted at 19:49:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
and reddit...
shadowenx · 1 points · Posted at 21:17:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
...and reddit.
Em_Adespoton · 1 points · Posted at 23:27:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram is owned by Facebook isn’t it?
StNowhere · 1 points · Posted at 00:21:55 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Isn't Instagram owned by Facebook though?
majaka1234 · 1 points · Posted at 02:37:49 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
And ironically Instagram is owned by Facebook and all the data sharing you get from FB is also present in Instagram so...
#deleteFacebookAndInstagramAndWhatsappToo
Seakawn · 1 points · Posted at 04:13:27 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hey, c'mon man...
You're ruining the "Musk doesn't give a shit about nor respect his employees" circlejerk...
If people want to believe the SpaceX media team was wiped because merely FB vanished, then just let them!
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 19:01:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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mambo-2 · 3 points · Posted at 19:59:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook is the most dominant by a fair margin. Managing a Facebook presence is hence the single most important role of most social media teams. I say that as someone who hasn't signed in to a Facebook account in over a year.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:12:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I disagree saying it's the most important. It's the biggest social media platform but not with future generations. It also doesn't change its losing numbers rapidly these past couple years.
mambo-2 · 2 points · Posted at 20:35:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well, I won't miss it if it disappears, but it certainly still matters now.
What any of this actually means for Tesla/SpaceX social media employees is anyone's guess (who knows how large that team even is) but having snap decisions made by Musk when he's apparently never even seen the Facebook page has to be a bit demoralizing for whoever was running that. Again, I'm not really opposed to him doing this, but that doesn't preclude empathy for the lower-level employees.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:57:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It somewhat matters. By that I mean if you already have Twitter, Instagram perhaps Snapchat and a website you might make up for it as opposed to just having Facebook, but of course if you had all social media platforms to begin with then, yeah, you're going to get people missing your stuff.
Although maybe this is more of a moral issue by Elon Musk because of how Facebook has been portrayed recently.
I wouldn't worry too much about the social media jobs at Elon Musk's company because they can just focus on the other platforms and maybe even be creative somewhere else and see what else they can do to branch out some more. If any company could do it, it's this one.
mambo-2 · 2 points · Posted at 21:05:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's 100% a moral issue for Musk, which is why this makes sense at all. That and the fact that his status as a celebrity CEO has more social media impact than any corporate team.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:30:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, it's pretty cool of him to be a moral bloke.
theSchmoozer · 402 points · Posted at 18:59:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Social media teams cover all the channels; they can still play with tweet base, turd whistle, and insta-glam.
smallcalves · 177 points · Posted at 19:05:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
what is turd whistle
theSchmoozer · 397 points · Posted at 19:06:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Some crap I just made up.
smallcalves · 427 points · Posted at 19:08:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
well tough shit you just started a social media platform. get working.
hang_them_high · 242 points · Posted at 19:30:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you’re looking for an actual poop related social media platform, i run two. There is Crapchat which is more serious and connection driven; or there is Turds with Friends that is more fun.
Benefits of Crapchat- photos of public restrooms with user ratings. Allows for easy searching of when you have to go out in the wild. Leave comments on your Crapchat “stall” and see who else you know that’s pooped somewhere!
Turds with friends- this one is my baby. Take a photo of your turd before flushing and match it to a poop style to collect badges! There is the big log, archipelago, swamp monster, etc etc. compete with friends to see who can amass the biggest collection with point bonus multipliers for color/size. Actual proctologist on hire to provide some general health information - ie what it means when poop floats vs sinks, blood in stool, etc.
xXShouldBeWorkingXx · 110 points · Posted at 20:04:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I am not sure what to think and am not sure if this is a ThinkGeek level troll or if I am going to ruin my search history further by looking for poopcentric social media platforms that don't exist.
koshgeo · 3 points · Posted at 00:05:01 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Here's a safe one to explore: Poozeum.com.
Trust me. Not a social media platform, sadly, but totally safe.
Chucksbeard · 2 points · Posted at 21:28:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Poop social media is okay if that is what you are into. I prefer the old school method of interacting in a chatroom. Like the ugly ones from the 90s. Like poo.com
musiquexcoeur · 20 points · Posted at 20:02:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're an interesting person.
Crapchat sounds like a thing the world needs though, so there's that. Public bathrooms are gross. But not as gross as the female restroom at work.
ratshack · 1 points · Posted at 00:41:37 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
female bathroom at a small movie theatre at the end of a rainy Saturday night.
the Horror...
musiquexcoeur · 2 points · Posted at 00:47:26 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oof. Yeah, those are bad too.
ratshack · 2 points · Posted at 17:26:02 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
for some reason this taken by itself is really funny. Such a quote!
musiquexcoeur · 2 points · Posted at 21:34:12 on March 25, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/nocontext
UsedToBeTSIJoeC · 12 points · Posted at 20:11:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
user has been waiting his whole professional career to find a post where he can make this plug. Your time has come!
ToastyBytes · 1 points · Posted at 23:35:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Your could say it's a butt plug
snorri_sturlson · 7 points · Posted at 20:39:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is this real? I want in.
return-of-the-mac · 5 points · Posted at 20:07:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What a time to be alive.
TeknikFrik · 4 points · Posted at 21:55:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This guy shitposts
Bruh_Man_1 · 3 points · Posted at 23:29:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Do you need investors?
I have $6.18
DaPsyco · 3 points · Posted at 20:46:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Turds with friends sounds great. Too bad I'd only be able to cash in on the swamp monster poops.
hang_them_high · 2 points · Posted at 21:13:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Might be a diet issue- sugar or alcohol or not enough fiber. Less likely a medical issue like IBS or celiac
DaPsyco · 1 points · Posted at 22:09:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
One part diet issue, three parts IBS. About 80% of my poops are the squand consistency.
hang_them_high · 1 points · Posted at 22:23:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sorry to hear that but glad to see our poop related symptom checker is accurate
macutchi · 3 points · Posted at 23:11:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There's a book for sale in England that list the best public toilets, paid/unpaid for Northern England. Maybe too late for the app?, hostile user base and or the inevitability of death taking your custom.
rekkless98 · 2 points · Posted at 01:33:56 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is there an app for crapchat because I'd be into that
DarthMagnus88 · 1 points · Posted at 19:48:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't crapface-bill bellichik
hramato · 1 points · Posted at 21:25:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Double post: Dog Poo Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKKm0luRoKdfBqEBoK_Jk5OBObznI3T_Q
User_1042 · 1 points · Posted at 23:34:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I can't find turds with friends, is it the website that makes poop emojis?
hang_them_high · 2 points · Posted at 23:58:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sadly it’s not out yet. I work a soul crushing office Job and just don’t have the app programming expertise to produce my dreams.
Plebs-_-Placebo · 1 points · Posted at 00:19:08 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
you might want to do a review of the sklar brothers documentary, "poop talk".
TerribleTherapist · 1 points · Posted at 02:11:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
PoopShoot.com would be a good name for pics of poop.
MoralSupremacy · 1 points · Posted at 02:26:34 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
@r/crohnsdisease & r/ulcerative colitis
LoonAtticRakuro · 1 points · Posted at 06:14:20 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You say this, and I'm over here wishing CrapChat was actually a thing. I would love to know where the nearest clean bathroom is that I can use, just as a force of habit. It would make travelling so much easier.
I would even totally "Check In" at a stall, and "Check Out" when I'm done. 2 minute stop? Clearly just had to wee. 15 minute stop? That Taco Time did not settle well.
drifters74 · 103 points · Posted at 19:16:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Turdwhistle.com
TheJollyLlama875 · 166 points · Posted at 19:24:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's not fancy enough. It should be TurdWhis.tl
Ars3nic · 9 points · Posted at 19:55:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's not Gen-Z enough. It should be turd.ly
atomic1fire · 4 points · Posted at 21:00:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The main page is now TurdWhis.tl/e
The E stands for everything.
jaybeanstalk · 3 points · Posted at 19:59:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
TIL .tl domains cost upwards of 100 bucks a year.
selfproclaimed · 1 points · Posted at 21:05:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Turd Whistle
Turdwhist
Turwist
Turis.com. See that’s cute and snappy enough.
hramato · 1 points · Posted at 21:21:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Would like to take an opportunity and introduce Dog Poo Channel, social media at its finest:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKKm0luRoKdfBqEBoK_Jk5OBObznI3T_Q
koshgeo · 1 points · Posted at 00:01:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Headquartered in beautiful East Timor.
smallcalves · 31 points · Posted at 19:19:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
i’m scared to go there
my_spelling_is_pour · 1 points · Posted at 21:21:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Be strong for mother
plexxonic · 4 points · Posted at 20:52:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Surprisingly, that domain was available. Why I just spent half of what I have left in my bank account? I'll never know.
Edit: suggestions for the site?
Generic_Pete · 2 points · Posted at 23:47:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You gotta be fucking kidding
tiniestkid · 1 points · Posted at 02:44:07 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You must not have much in your bank account. Also, make it a giant shitpost. Literally.
plexxonic · 2 points · Posted at 04:37:36 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep, broke as fuck now. I'm down with a shit post site.
poopmaster747 · 6 points · Posted at 20:15:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Turdwhistle.com, where you whistle while you work that large #2 order from Taco Bell down the shitter, on company time.
EvaUnit01 · 5 points · Posted at 19:57:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Turdwhistle just had its IPO! NYSE: $TURD
EDIT: $TURD market cap just crossed 30 billion. This is good for Bitcoin.
UPDATE: $TURD's stock is now near worthless.
poopmaster747 · 1 points · Posted at 20:19:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Invest in Poop emojis and buy $TURD on the dip!
O0-__-0O · 2 points · Posted at 20:08:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
GoDaddy
Chavezjc · 1 points · Posted at 02:25:37 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Penisland.com
DonLaFontainesGhost · 2 points · Posted at 19:27:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Shouldn't it be trdWhssl.com ? Though that's actually dated now. What's the new "in" way of naming stupid avant-garde shit?
Ars3nic · 3 points · Posted at 19:55:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Must end with .ly
DonLaFontainesGhost · 1 points · Posted at 20:00:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So trdWss.ly ?
CloakNStagger · 8 points · Posted at 20:18:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"6 years ago I made a throwaway joke on Reddit now I run the world's largest shitposting platform with an estimated net worth of $790,000,000."
theSchmoozer · 1 points · Posted at 00:53:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Now I only bowhunt my own food and have an open door policy at work."
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:59:53 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
"16 years ago I started the world's largest shitposting platform. I promise you Cleveland Analytica did NOT harvest your fecal data to aid Donald Jr in the 2032 election."
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:18:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It already sounds better than Facebook. Are you guys looking for investors, perchance?
TheRojofrobro · 3 points · Posted at 19:21:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just add blockchain for instant profit
poopmaster747 · 2 points · Posted at 20:12:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm on board.
theSchmoozer · 2 points · Posted at 20:23:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Reluctant CEO"
Ben Richards is the latest contestant on the wasteland's most popular reality show. Hunted by ruthless angel investors, he's forced to stand up a company named after his flippant comments.
Starring Drederick Tatum as Yaphet Kotto and Mila Kunis as "Linda"
Cawlite · 1 points · Posted at 19:41:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd sign up.
luciferhelidon · 1 points · Posted at 20:45:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hey i heard someone had turdwhistle invite codes?
smallcalves · 1 points · Posted at 21:03:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
what’s the secret password?
JunkShack · 1 points · Posted at 21:09:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just don’t strain too much to push it out
coke_can2 · 1 points · Posted at 04:05:11 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
"turd whistle: force your friends to listen to your shit" It's Facebook + SoundCloud, but users can't post audio bites without listening to friends stuff.
p4lm3r · 2 points · Posted at 19:30:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I heard turd whistles sound like shit.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:08:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How can I invest?
Arbennig · 1 points · Posted at 19:26:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sign me up.
mark-five · 1 points · Posted at 19:35:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Set up the website and charge companies to abuse userdata and baby you got a stew going
TheMeatWhistle45 · 3 points · Posted at 19:26:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s like a meat whistle, but not as salty
gidea · 2 points · Posted at 19:21:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You need to register turd whistle, the best platform to complain about stuff.
“Ugh, Bezos is such a turd!” Posted on TurdWhistle.fuck
etherealpenguin · 2 points · Posted at 19:22:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
siri, what is a “turd whistle”,
PotatoforPotato · 2 points · Posted at 00:43:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I like this question. "What is turd whistle?" sounds like something a confused A.I. would ask after it came online.
plexxonic · 1 points · Posted at 20:36:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Most of the shit on Twitter.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:09:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
isn't instagram facebook?
cgibsong002 · 3 points · Posted at 19:08:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you 9 and just saw your first episode of South Park
uweenukr · 1 points · Posted at 19:18:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
turd whistle isnt a thing? I was excited for a second.
viciousbreed · 1 points · Posted at 19:58:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
10/10, would sign up because the word "turd" still makes me giggle in my 30s.
xfoolishx · 1 points · Posted at 14:36:59 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don’t forget WOOF
Lurksville · 136 points · Posted at 19:07:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm guessing this has freed up 20 mins from one persons day at most. These comments read like a team of 30 got laid off two days before retirement.
politirob · 15 points · Posted at 19:45:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
usually social media teams for big companies are pretty sophisticated
depending on the company of course
but there's plenty of work to do with strategy, customer service, coordination of media and message and production of content to where it's definitely not just a quick 20 min. thing lol
whosthatcarguy · 5 points · Posted at 20:06:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I have about a million fb likes between maybe a half dozen accounts I manage. Each one takes about half an hour to manage a day plus a few inbox messages a day. At most this will free up a bit of time for someone every day, I’m sure they have other things to do. No ones getting laid off.
remote_crocodile · 14 points · Posted at 20:48:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Dude i work in social media for a FTSE 250 company managing all of their accounts by myself across 7 brands, and its a fucking long ass job, people expect top quality copy pushing out every message they need said for every brand daily. And thats not to mention the customer service aspect, if you want to compete you have to be responding to customers 24/7. Imagine never being able to stop working because Janice the vegan needs to know if the pizza comes as a vegan option at 11pm on a Saturday evening. You need 99% response rates and low time response rates because thats what the modern consumer wants, and people expect you to deliver.
whosthatcarguy · 1 points · Posted at 15:57:45 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
There are a lot of factors involved that can change how much work you have to put into an account. Industry, content, platforms, and more can change interaction rates. I’m sure you’re working for a company that markets directly to consumers? Many brands I work with are B2B or work through dealers so complaints and questions are directed elsewhere while we deal more with branding and marketing campaigns.
Eustace_Savage · 3 points · Posted at 20:46:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep. Your likes were bought. Or you're full of it. More likely both.
whosthatcarguy · 1 points · Posted at 15:52:07 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
A few each day per account, so maybe a dozen a day total.
politirob · 2 points · Posted at 20:11:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sure, but that doesn't discredit me or mean that I'm making stuff up
Content has to come from somewhere—photos, video, written articles etc etc
So your company doesn't do that stuff, okay
But lots of companies do
jas417 · 3 points · Posted at 20:28:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah but they still have a presence on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Tesla’s own sites and blogs etc so the content creation is still there, they just decided to not use one certain channel. Clearly Tesla and Space X are very marketing savvy companies so they still have people taking pictures, making videos and writing articles, if Musk wasn’t even aware of their Facebook presence it must’ve been somewhat of an afterthought. Point is ‘deleting Facebook’ doesn’t mean ‘social media team is suddenly jobless’
hfiggs · 1 points · Posted at 20:54:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What kind of accounts are they?
redditaccountant · 3 points · Posted at 19:39:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Too soon.
takethislonging · 6 points · Posted at 19:41:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think you might be underestimating the time and manpower that a large company like Tesla (30,000 employees) spends on social media. The FB page had millions of followers and I'm sure it took a lot of work to maintain it.
SpookyLlama · 5 points · Posted at 19:47:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Bollocks. You think there was a team that managed the Facebook page 24/7?
Facebook is an awful platform for marketing anyways.
Cerb88 · 9 points · Posted at 19:59:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My sole job is taking care of the social accounts of a small (by comparison) company of 3000, so there was at least someone working on it 9-5 is my bet.
lolihull · -4 points · Posted at 20:32:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well my job includes social media management for one of the biggest conglomerates in the world and if my manager deleted our Facebook it'd free up like maybe an hour of my week. I spend way more time on other types of marketing than I do on a couple of scheduled Facebook posts.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:49:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I dont know of Tesla/Spacex did it, but plenty of companies use facebook like normal customer service and answer every comment they get. You dont think that requires some manpower?
nkolvfdaniok · 4 points · Posted at 20:07:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
a) SpaceX doesn't get customer complaints
b) If Tesla was a company that did feedback that way, Musk would have known they had a facebook page.
But feel free to keep wantonly speculating about things you're completely uninformed about just to be contrarian.
jas417 · 6 points · Posted at 20:31:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You mean NASA doesn’t write strongly worded Facebook reviews if a delivery to ISS wasn’t completed to their full satisfaction?
lolihull · 3 points · Posted at 20:34:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Also most companies that do get a whole load of customer service shit on social will have it filter through into zendesk or the like so that the main customer service team can deal with it. It's rarer to have someone doing social marketing and customer service for a company as large as tesla.
Eustace_Savage · 2 points · Posted at 20:48:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Take your own advice, bud.
nkolvfdaniok · 1 points · Posted at 21:49:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So you don't know how conditional statements work?
Eustace_Savage · 1 points · Posted at 22:46:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It appears you don't know how comprehension works. You had the hypocrisy to have a go at someone for speculation and then proceeded to do your own speculation while also being completely uninformed of the situation. Don't dish what you can't take.
PM_ME_UR_GHOST_STORY · 1 points · Posted at 20:03:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nearly 2/7 of the planet actively uses Facebook. Part of marketing is all about getting your company's message in front of as many people as possible, and FB let's you target an audience by age, interest, demographic, etc. I've been doing online marketing for almost a decade and FB ads are by far one of the best ways I've ever seen to reach an interested group of consumers. If you think it's a shitty advertising platform, about $40 billion in advertiser money in 2017 would disagree with you.
thisiscoolyeah · 2 points · Posted at 20:01:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think you have a vague understanding of what someone in that position actually does.
Eustace_Savage · 1 points · Posted at 20:49:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Welcome to reddit.
HTownian25 · 1 points · Posted at 01:11:54 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Getting too old for this shit.
NeverfailMode · 12 points · Posted at 19:00:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Probably severance pay package tho and/or opportunities to work in related marketing departments
Perditius · 2 points · Posted at 19:44:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Maybe for the top level exec or two. Those poor coordinators and assistants that are working 12 hour days on a shitty salary with the hopes of upward mobility THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE; GOOD LUCK OUT THERE .
ThinkBeforeYouTalk · 3 points · Posted at 20:04:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wouldn't a severance pay package apply to every full time employee... like isn't that the law?
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:06:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The law? In what country?
ThinkBeforeYouTalk · 3 points · Posted at 20:26:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I am assuming the US has some equivalent law dealing with mandatory severance? Provinces in Canada have laws governing that. To be fair I should clarify you usually need to work for a company for a certain amount of years to qualify.
Perditius · 3 points · Posted at 20:32:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nope! Not in the US. It's pretty much completely voluntary on the part of the employer. In many cases, companies have policies in place based on your seniority level / number of years at the company. And then, if you're unionized, your union will (hopefully) have set up some sort of collective bargaining agreement on the matter.
Other companies might only provide it if it's part of your contract when you first sign up, and that's often only to executive level folks.
Worker bees in many office-oriented industries, on the other hand, are offered pretty much no such guarantees. You get to collect unemployment for a few months, I guess, but that's not a severance package.
Source: Work in entertainment industry, have been laid off multiple times due to departments closing. When I was assistant/coordinator level, I got a big fat goose egg for my trouble. Once I crossed into the junior exec level, I got 2 months worth of paychecks due to it being the company's policy that executives get 1 month pay for every year they'd been at the company when laid off. That same company's assistants/coordinators still got nothing.
CheeseAttack · 3 points · Posted at 19:30:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk will probably just fire them tbh. He's a ruthless boss and not really that nice of a guy to his workers.
Excalibur457 · 6 points · Posted at 19:00:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Good thing nobody uses Facebook anymore, right guys?
Mad_Maddin · 1 points · Posted at 19:02:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I do. For ecchi pics and stuff. Also to write with my 3 friends.
TODO_getLife · 3 points · Posted at 19:08:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's probably a team of people in the marketing department (probably all of them) who have other roles too, not just the socials.
jivemasta · 3 points · Posted at 19:20:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah, there are still places to post and such to. Facebook isn't the only place, and if this trend continues, it won't even be relevant in a few years.
Wiinamex · 3 points · Posted at 19:26:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
CEO just deleted your job that he didn't know existed
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:38:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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ToastyBytes · 1 points · Posted at 23:42:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There are several other networks out there that you can help spread your company's message. You don't need to keep growing followers. You want more engaged followers. A smaller, more loyal fanbase is better than a bigger one that just likes things every now and then.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:43:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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ToastyBytes · 1 points · Posted at 23:52:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My boss/team actually took this as an exciting opportunity to brainstorm ideas of where we would go if Facebook truly died. It was neat to think about building from the ground up again :)
Btw there is a really good webinar from Social Media Examiner that talks about my previous post (where I got the info from). It's like an hour and a half long. If I can find it I'll PM you. It basically says creating open, transparent relationships with customers and fans of your brand is better than just quantity of fans/views of your message.
bats-arent-bugs · 7 points · Posted at 19:25:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To be fair, if your job consists of nothing but maintaing a Facebook page, you're probably too stoned from all the antidepressants to care about the CEO deleting your job.
SoggyFrenchFry · 2 points · Posted at 19:00:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Any chance he just restructures? He seems like a decent guy/boss. But you can't always be everyone's friend when running a business, especially at that scale.
FartingWithASmile · 5 points · Posted at 19:17:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The social media team will be redeployed, by converting them into rocket fuel coolant.
SoggyFrenchFry · 1 points · Posted at 19:21:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think he's on record saying he will blast them each to Mars in their own Tesla.
TripleCast · 3 points · Posted at 19:44:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon musk is known as a notoriously demanding boss who expects you to sacrifice your work life balance
SoggyFrenchFry · 0 points · Posted at 21:03:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Gotchya. I think they are gone for sure. But what you said means he wants you to work really hard and often. Doesn't mean he is an unfair/bad boss especially if this is made clear up front.
TripleCast · 1 points · Posted at 21:41:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well if you make unfair demands and crack down on them then I think that still qualifies you as an unfair boss. It IS a contract both parties agree to beforehand and most younger devs are willing to do it for the prestige of working for him. The resume padding is unbelievable. Doesn't mean it's not unfair though.
I was pointing this out more to address about how he's a decent guy but you can't always be everyone's friend sort of thing. He does not try to be friends with any of his employees. They are cogs in a machine and he lets them know ahead of time. This isnt criticism of him as a person, just stating that the attitude that guy had of him and how he acts with his employees is off.
SoggyFrenchFry · 1 points · Posted at 23:47:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh ya, I understood what you were saying. I was adding that doesn't mean he would be callous in firing these people. But adding that was redundant.
haminthefryingpan · 2 points · Posted at 20:14:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Probably were getting paid more than the people doing the actual labor to make the cars as well
rochesterjones · 1 points · Posted at 19:00:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah Facebook is the only social media outlet right?
eonsky · 1 points · Posted at 19:27:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To make a point
VectorB · 1 points · Posted at 19:48:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Try working for the federal government these days.
TheNoteTaker · 1 points · Posted at 19:51:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Except there are other social media platforms that will require content, and they probably will still advertise on FB. So there may not be a page to tend to there is still work.
positivek38 · 1 points · Posted at 20:03:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon will just make his own social media platform/universe
PooPooDooDoo · 1 points · Posted at 20:54:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Good thing they still have reddit.
Logfarm · 1 points · Posted at 21:25:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s hard to imagine that a team is needed to make daily posts on social media sites. The PR guy could get his 14 year old sister to post approved content.
godshammgod15 · 1 points · Posted at 22:09:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So as someone who works in social media/content strategy this is something we talk about a lot. Basically, what would you do if all of a sudden Facebook or Twitter or Soundcloud or [insert platform/app here] suddenly didn't exist? And it's basically to get ourselves to think broadly about the content we're creating instead of thinking about the platforms or channels we're managing. I work at a large university and most people doing social aren't just doing social; they're really just doing content marketing and distribution across a wide range of channels. It's kind of about being "channel agnostic" as buzzwordy and awful as that sounds. Basically it would be hard to delete our jobs because we're not limited to working just on social.
kozinc · 1 points · Posted at 23:10:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There's still MySpace.
Fortune_Cat · 1 points · Posted at 23:34:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh Snap
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:12:47 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Honestly, probably no one is going to lose their job, and more focus is going to be put on getting the message out through other means.
It’s a lot more difficult/requires a lot more labor when the easy paths are sealed.
MrTittyFingers · 1 points · Posted at 00:44:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
There are plenty of other media sites
kosmic_osmo · 1 points · Posted at 19:14:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
i wouldn't say they were 'working' but they certainly collected a pay check.
Zymotical · 1 points · Posted at 19:42:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well, time to find a job that actually contributes to society.
dead_inside_me · 1 points · Posted at 19:49:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because CEO's ego
Zagubadu · 1 points · Posted at 20:27:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
lmao at people thinking any legit company has "social media people" and that the job includes facebook/myspace/and all the other shit sites.
Literally their PR team has PLENTY to do believe me.
ToastyBytes · 1 points · Posted at 23:43:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Legit companies have dedicated social media teams under their marketing departments.
insanePowerMe · 6 points · Posted at 19:08:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They can reassign employees for other tasks. Even similar tasks.
Realsan · 1 points · Posted at 20:51:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If I recall correctly they really don't do marketing, so their social media team was likely just a guy/girl whose primary job was something else.
canIbeMichael · 605 points · Posted at 18:58:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tesla's social media team hangs out on reddit....
senaya · 301 points · Posted at 19:02:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hey, Brian, up for a beer after we're done today?
SasquatchWookie · 187 points · Posted at 19:13:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Good to see you here, Todd!
anapoe · 131 points · Posted at 19:18:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can you believe that Karen is up to it again?
King_Gama · 57 points · Posted at 19:33:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I can hear her from over here, Anna. It's horrible. Tell Jim up in Engineering to soundproof my room again.
More asbestos this time.fluffspeed · 28 points · Posted at 19:40:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You heard what Kevin and Billy got caught doing in the break room right?
DerpyCatman51 · 9 points · Posted at 19:51:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is the manager speaking, uh Karen meet me in my office in five minutes. W-wear the thing I got you, ok.
pease_pudding · 13 points · Posted at 22:01:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Seriously Rich, 5 minutes?!
Do you know how long it takes to get into that space suit?
motions2u2wipemyass · 7 points · Posted at 20:17:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who the fuck keeps coughing!?
RicardoIII · 4 points · Posted at 23:14:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Seriously, I bet it's fucking Greg again. Can someone shut them up? I have to finish this weekly briefing before I leave the office.
slowsuby · 3 points · Posted at 23:14:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Were they seriously using the communal Nutella to make N&J sandwiches again? Seriously guys, that uses up so much of the communal Nutella.
LiveTheChange · 1 points · Posted at 21:03:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Seriously, can't that woman keep her slimy paws off the god damn spaceship?
Camper263 · 1 points · Posted at 01:55:38 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Karen is always a bag of douche!
thebigsqueeze · 0 points · Posted at 20:13:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
God! Karen, she's such a douche bag.
iushciuweiush · 1 points · Posted at 21:09:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Unbelievable. I've notified the Tesla HR department and the media of these atrocious comments.
T-Bills · 10 points · Posted at 19:18:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
God damn it Chuck stop heating up fish in the microwave.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:24:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Epidemigod · 2 points · Posted at 19:29:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I thought I was Fred...coffee's potent today.
8yr0n · 4 points · Posted at 19:39:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh hi Elon, I see you’re using your alt account. While you’re here can you sign off on these TPS reports?
hypercube33 · 4 points · Posted at 19:42:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We're out of TP in the lobby again
Voodoobones · 3 points · Posted at 19:42:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Jesus, Jeremy! You can’t just call people out like that!
t0dd · 3 points · Posted at 19:49:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thanks, Same to you.
mr_eous_mr_ection · 2 points · Posted at 20:49:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You must be confused, that's Michael.
365degrees · 1 points · Posted at 22:08:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Dude.... you know he wants to be called Michael. It's right there, you are just being disrespectful by calling him brian all the time.
istandabove · 1 points · Posted at 00:13:17 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Big if true, I’ll take one Tesla Pickup please
GregTheMad · 7 points · Posted at 20:22:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If Facebook really declines Reddit might end up being the next Facebook ... mostly for worse.
Eustace_Savage · 6 points · Posted at 21:04:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Have you seen the re-design? That's precisely what spez and co want.
UkonFujiwara · 12 points · Posted at 20:15:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tesla's social media team IS Reddit.
Nebfisherman1987 · 4 points · Posted at 20:20:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's about time to delete Reddit too
ozone63 · 3 points · Posted at 23:52:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who do you think posted this??
Here_Here_Here · 3 points · Posted at 19:38:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No place like
Ticket2ride21 · -1 points · Posted at 19:50:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This guy fucks.
dyno_saurus · 506 points · Posted at 18:57:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There are still plenty of social media platforms for that team to work with.
the_wurd_burd · 419 points · Posted at 19:01:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People act like the social media game has been decided...ten years after its invention. Nothing is set in stone and the real estate is still developing and up for grabs I'd say.
edit: Social Media existed longer than 10 years ago.
everred · 202 points · Posted at 19:07:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Come check out my MyFace
[deleted] · 85 points · Posted at 19:26:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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SkorpioSound · 34 points · Posted at 19:57:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Face X
Thousandtree · 4 points · Posted at 20:08:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Boring face
narayans · 3 points · Posted at 20:26:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
SpaceBook wouldn't be a bad idea at all. I, for one, can't wait to see what kind of memes our astronauts are into.
CaptnCarl85 · 1 points · Posted at 20:45:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
SpaceBook.com is up for grabs.
Jurjin · 1 points · Posted at 02:15:26 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
SpaceBook is already IP. Neal Stephenson created it for Seveneves
Who_Decided · 5 points · Posted at 19:26:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I would actually really like a BookSpace social network around reading now.
Jhago · 3 points · Posted at 20:03:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's called Goodreads.
Who_Decided · 2 points · Posted at 20:15:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm a heavy user of Goodreads. It hardly qualifies as social.
dubbdev · 4 points · Posted at 20:12:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Everyone missed the EBDB joke.
FrostByte122 · 1 points · Posted at 21:21:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fucking tacos
drgigantor · 3 points · Posted at 19:54:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
6 months later #getoffmyface
wessex464 · 2 points · Posted at 20:24:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I always preferred FaceSpace.
xognitx · 2 points · Posted at 21:56:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
FriendFace 4life
Counterkulture · 1 points · Posted at 19:20:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've heard of Myfacebook, but not myface. Sounds interesting.
Anybody know what happened to Myfacebook?
everred · 1 points · Posted at 19:26:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/aW8Chil8ZfU
Elitdruin · 1 points · Posted at 21:01:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I like FaceBack myself
galacticbeer · 1 points · Posted at 03:36:27 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Bookface
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQeXEYsPOZI
Mouthshitter · 0 points · Posted at 20:17:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I did and I puked
SomethingSleep · 0 points · Posted at 20:36:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah
It's ugly
365degrees · 0 points · Posted at 22:09:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sorry, the Yelp reviews for your face were pretty low, so we've decided to give it a miss.
Dagobert_The_Second · 7 points · Posted at 19:17:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ten years? Tribe.net was 2003.
Stepepper · 1 points · Posted at 23:48:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
yeah but it only started getting social in 2007.
Grub-37 · 1 points · Posted at 02:28:55 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Kids these days! Have none of you heard of Usenet? Still going strong(ish) after nearly 40 years.
TheMeatWhistle45 · 5 points · Posted at 19:31:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sadly it is for the foreseeable future. I would leave FB, but very few of my friends and (older) family give a shit about data mining, leftist politics and the other legit criticism leveled at FB.
Most older people I know just assume that some hacker already has all their info and account numbers, but hasn’t found a use for it yet.
If I want to stay in touch with them, it’s Facebook or (god forbid) the old weekly phone call.
WattsCalifornia · 3 points · Posted at 20:40:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don’t stress too much, once the herd starts moving, they won’t be far behind.
There is a LOT of multi billion dollar companies that people assumed would retain the monopoly in their space, that are bankrupt today. Some bled out slowly, others were destroyed almost overnight.
IChooseToBeBetter · 3 points · Posted at 19:03:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm excited for the documentary
Dreaming_of_ · 3 points · Posted at 19:49:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
New social Media rarely reaches critical mass. So it's not really Up for grabs with the current major networks
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 19:55:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
rarely is not never. people forget how quickly the media landscape has been changing... facebook is not that old, even.
Eustace_Savage · 2 points · Posted at 21:01:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook has existed for twice as long as Myspace existed (in its previous actual competitive incarnation before JT bought it).
ihatenewaccts · 2 points · Posted at 21:28:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I agree with this. I think no one has offered me a fantastic alternative to FB, so there definitely could be something new and amazing.
I feel like Twitter, Tumblr, Reddit those types- they have all carved out their own thing. Google+, MySpace, FB, and other smaller ones I can't remember or list... These are all on the same level for me.
I don't want to use MySpace and FB. That's pretty much why I stopped using MySpace. I didn't think there was anything wrong with it. It was just a hassle to keep up with both. On top of that, almost everyone was moving to FB at the time. Then Google+ came out and almost no one went over there. They tried, but it was a flop.
I think something new could explode and destroy FB if it was similar enough to cover any missing features, but unique enough to get people interested.
Although as I'm thinking about it if tumblr added in instant messaging, events, and all my friends/pages/groups moved over to it I think it would be my perfect replacement for FB. I like the marketplace too.
boog3n · 3 points · Posted at 20:05:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
SixDegrees was 21 years ago. LiveJournal was 18 years ago. Friendster was 16 years ago. The core social media game basically has been decided: it’s facebook. It took at least 10 years of trial and error before Zuckerberg came along with the right mix of features, then it took a few more years for them to win. In other words, it took a lot more than 10 years. It only seems like 10 years because Facebook is so dominant now that people think they invented the concept.
That said, you’re right in the sense that nothing is really ever decided on the web. Companies can lose market share really quickly. But there’s a strong network effect with social media that supports the status quo. That’s why most competing networks are addressing some niche market or niche need (like youth, or photo sharing). Facebook started the same way, by focusing on college campuses.
the_wurd_burd · 1 points · Posted at 22:56:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's a fair point. I'm wondering what the barriers to switching would be. Zuck did "perfect" what we have now but if there was an easy substitute, how quickly would people jump ship? Especially if there was an option to instantly delete your facebook account and all the content on it. I'd at least take a look at it.
boog3n · 1 points · Posted at 02:27:04 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
The biggest barrier to switching is the network effect value of all the existing accounts. Someone could release a product with feature parity tomorrow but it would be useless if my friends and family aren’t on it. I doubt privacy concerns would be enough of a reason for a mass migration. Most people don’t care enough, and there’s no reason to believe that a competitor wouldn’t be just as bad.
the_wurd_burd · 1 points · Posted at 02:56:17 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I agree. But like (not to fanboy too hard) Elon suggested not just a better rocket, but a rocket that was financially undeniably the better option. That is the same product (rockets) but at such a drastic improvement that the market is recognizing and supporting it. I curious to see how much closer we're getting to the social media version of that. We might still be a ways off but to feel that "this is it" or something...it's so old hat. It's like putting up with radio ads or cable television commercials.
I'm definitely the wrong guy to talk to for ideas but I'm interested to see how the social media crowd (personal and commercial) react to this shake up. What ideas will come out of it, what innovations will we see that continue to scratch the itch of needing to "Connect online" or whatever.
MarshawnPynch · 2 points · Posted at 20:03:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Social media could be dead in 10 years.
the_wurd_burd · 1 points · Posted at 22:58:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Could be. But I think that, aside from all the annoying things about people that it's made us aware of, it's also a literal invention of something. I don't think we can un-ring that bell. But I do think we're living in the first beta versions of something that will continue to grow along with humanity.
djbelieve · 1 points · Posted at 19:25:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let’s hope, but after looking around l’ve found nothing like FB for keeping in touch with friends in multiple locations. Is there any platform, besides texts/email/snail-mail, that could replace FB? Something not owned by FB or Google?
the_wurd_burd · 2 points · Posted at 23:01:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Could be waiting to be invented. Who knows. Right now I see frustration with a service/product, an audience willing to listen to alternatives and relatively low overhead for an effective solution. Just my observations.
FredWestLife · 1 points · Posted at 20:59:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've joined FriendFace https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rNgCnY1lPg
the_wurd_burd · 1 points · Posted at 22:54:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's terribly accurate.
Hyperdrunk · 1 points · Posted at 03:41:45 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
What the hell are you on about? No one's going to give up Friendster for Myspace just because you can embed music into their webpages and customize the background into anything you want.
the_wurd_burd · 1 points · Posted at 05:12:35 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I agree. Those are small changes that don't affect anything. What if the real annoying parts of social media could be done away with but keep the parts that work. Is that possible? Who knows. But to think it's not at least worth a conversation is, in my opinion, short sighted.
chibistarship · 1 points · Posted at 22:44:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ten years? Social media was around before 2008.
Edit: Geocities was founded in 1994, Friendster in 2002, LinkedIn in 2002, Myspace in 2003. Not to mention BBS and Usenet that came before them.
GroundbreakingVisual · 2 points · Posted at 19:20:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Including Reddit where they've been quite successful... I wouldn't even be surprised if they were involved in this post, but chances are against it I'll admit.
Scurro · 2 points · Posted at 20:04:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Come over to google+ there are dozens of us. Dozens!
RiceandBeansandChees · 3 points · Posted at 19:01:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let's be serious, without Facebook and Facebook-owned properties (like instagram), the social team is lacking some serious tools.
c-lent · 2 points · Posted at 19:05:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yea I really don’t see Facebook losing its status, it’s the pillar of social media
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:09:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Eustace_Savage · 0 points · Posted at 21:02:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook has existed for twice as long as myspace existed, and no, just because you can visit myspace.com right now doesn't mean it's myspace. It ceased being myspace when JT bought it and nuked everyone's data.
It is firmly entrenched and not going anywhere much to the charging of leftists.
slopecarver · 1 points · Posted at 19:22:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
YouTube for example which has been under fire recently too.
Ham-tar-o · 1 points · Posted at 20:07:59 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, what about PornHub? It's perfect for the shape of the Falcon rockets
ThePrinceMagus · 1 points · Posted at 19:45:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's right, because you know, jobs are just growing on job trees. Even more so, jobs that are equal to or higher paying than the jobs I'm sure one or two people will lose due to Tesla and Space X no longer being featured on the largest social media platform on earth! It'll be nothing but lilacs and unicorn farts when those people go to get a job running accounts on Tout.
cwmaker1 · 200 points · Posted at 19:09:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, imagine being the guy who worked on the Facebook page, developed an audience for it etc. and suddenly one day it's gone no fault of your own, must really suck.
[deleted] · 116 points · Posted at 19:13:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook's recent algorithm change makes it useless for business anyways.
SupersonicWumbo · 12 points · Posted at 23:47:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I worked at a social agency for two years and I've gotta wholeheartedly disagree with you here. Without paying money then yes it's useless for business, but it's been that way for quite some time. It's 100% pay to play, but with a little bit of ad spend (through ads manager, not boosting) its highly effective.
______DEADPOOL______ · -1 points · Posted at 07:33:55 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Explain how pls
SupersonicWumbo · 6 points · Posted at 08:26:37 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because you can get CPMs at significantly cheaper rates than traditional advertising so you're reaching more people, the targeting methods are much more precise so you're not wasting money advertising to the wrong person, and with advanced tracking you can actually prove ROI with purchase data instead of just hoping that your advertising is working.
______DEADPOOL______ · -1 points · Posted at 09:05:02 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
oooh! Show me how!
Teach me! Teach me! :3
SupersonicWumbo · 1 points · Posted at 20:05:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not sure how serious you are haha but if you are, it's nothing that a few Google searches can't get you started on the right path ;)
Schnidler · 27 points · Posted at 19:44:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
what change? Arent businesses the only reason facebook still exists? none of my friends post on fb anylonger
[deleted] · 52 points · Posted at 20:50:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Last month, Facebook changed the newsfeed algorithm. Here's what it did.
Posts from friends and family are ranked much higher on the news feed. This is an effort to improve the user experience. But this reduces organic impressions and audience growth for business pages.
Posts that generate "meaningful discussion" are well-ranked on the newsfeed.
I work at a marketing agency and most of our client pages have seen a drop in impressions, engagement, etc. We've adjusted to the new algorithm by changing our content and paying Facebook more money to "boost" a post.
lbcbtc · 22 points · Posted at 23:05:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Such an informed post from such an unexpected username
PorterN · 7 points · Posted at 01:05:46 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
This algorithm change also effectively killed those "respond with like for X and angry face for y" type posts right?
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 01:20:27 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah. It killed "engagement-bait" posts. Thank god.
ToastyBytes · 2 points · Posted at 23:45:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Also an emphasis on live video
sterob · 1 points · Posted at 04:09:56 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
How do you stay update with news about algorithm? Some change doesn't get mention on the news at all until someone from fb agency tell me, like how they boosted the score for video and gif post and push down static picture post.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 05:45:36 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
We get emails from companies like sendibe.com. We use their tools and services.
Sendible just updated us about a change to Twitter. You can no longer blast the same content to multiple twitters.
ThatsRedditculous · 1 points · Posted at 04:54:29 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google Alerts FTW
ddoeth · 28 points · Posted at 20:15:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Same for me, the only time I ever visit Facebook is when a shop or business doesn't have a proper webpage and then I usually nope out there pretty quickly.
4_bit_forever · 18 points · Posted at 20:42:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah I can't believe that businesses use that stupid website instead of a real one. It's incredibly annoying and usually really difficult to find useful information about the business, especially if you don't use Facebook
zinger565 · 25 points · Posted at 21:01:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
For a lot of small business owners, it's much easier to run a Facebook than it is to hire a web developer or build it themselves. Most already know how to edit and respond via their mobile phone on Facebook, harder to teach someone how to log-into their website and make changes that way.
pease_pudding · 6 points · Posted at 22:05:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, what small business is going to hunt down a developer or agency, stumble back and forth through a crumby spec, pay $6000 for them to build some half-assed Wordpress site, and then wait 6 months to even appear on page 10 of Google
dreamin_in_space · 7 points · Posted at 23:51:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
One that wants to be a real business rather than a Facebook page?
4_bit_forever · 3 points · Posted at 00:34:49 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I completely understand why they do it, but it's still a terrible platform for a business's primary web presence.
haganbmj · 2 points · Posted at 02:50:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I only keep Facebook around for scheduling Magic the Gathering. All of the stores in my area have their own website and salesfronts, but the only way they really get attendance is Facebook events and posting on state/regional groups.
There are enough recurring events that the content has to come to the customers rather than the other way around.
4_bit_forever · 1 points · Posted at 18:00:08 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's a legit use of Facebook. Primary web presence? Not so much
Beelzebeetus · 4 points · Posted at 23:26:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Local business has a Facebook page and a website. Both have different business hours and addresses. Neither of the addresses are correct, verified by me driving to each. I messaged the guy, got the correct address, showed up at the store at 11:30am (posted signage said they opened at 11) and it was closed.
Fuck local businesses
WestJenson · 15 points · Posted at 23:44:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Really it sounds like fuck that local business.
LostWoodsInTheField · 9 points · Posted at 20:53:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
honestly almost half the stuff on my feed now is local businesses advertising jobs, the local government (town / township / fire fighters / etc) post something, or something about local sports stuff.
It is actually stuff I want to see and share though. Which is probably why it is half, because I've taken everyone else off of my feed. I would never visit all those companies / organizations websites, if any of them but I get all this info in one place that is convenient.
ddoeth · 2 points · Posted at 21:54:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't use Facebook anymore and I never really have, there are just better ways to communicate with my friends than that
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 20:34:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fb posting is still a very big thing, just clearly not among your friends lol
etheran123 · 16 points · Posted at 20:37:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tbh I think you have to have friends for them to post anything.
JesseVentura911 · 2 points · Posted at 19:43:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Generally interested how so?
U-Ei · 2 points · Posted at 19:49:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why, what happened?
DemIce · 8 points · Posted at 21:04:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Your 'front page', as it were, on facebook now has more posts from friends and family, and less from businesses. That hurts businesses, because that was one nice form of spam that they relied on to build their audience. Now they have to rely more on people actually talking about them/their product and going out of their way to like/subscribe/whatever to their page(s).
U-Ei · 3 points · Posted at 23:46:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thanks.
Not that I really care what happens on FB anymore, no matter what they do. I go where the content I like is, and that is much easier to find on reddit and the like. Also, browsing FB without the App is a pain in the ass (it opens the messenger app in the Play Store everytime you forget you can't check your messages when browsing mobile). Just go fuck yourself Facebook!
kevdoobie · 2 points · Posted at 02:14:25 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
At least it’s one app. On iOS there is a separate app for FB Messenger. If you don’t have it, it directs you to the app store. There’s even a button in the toolbar for inbox and it will open the other app instead.
U-Ei · 2 points · Posted at 04:32:42 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
No that's exactly how it works on Android as well.
clintmurphy72 · 1 points · Posted at 19:49:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Seriously true!
Kronos_PRIME · 13 points · Posted at 20:18:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Feel bad for that guy if he put any work into it and the owner of the company didn’t even know they were on facebook lol
Powdered_Abe_Lincoln · 4 points · Posted at 21:35:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And then when he found out about it he says "looks lame anyway". Probably the first acknowledgement from Musk this guy's work ever got.
_kellythomas_ · 4 points · Posted at 00:04:04 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not just that but your boss is joking about how irrelevant your work has been.
jakksquat7 · 4 points · Posted at 19:26:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As a social media manager, yeah, that would really suck.
PM_ME_UR_KNITS · 130 points · Posted at 19:00:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Meh, it's Musk. He'll probably just build a better social media platform. Users will be Muskovites.
Lina_Inverse · 224 points · Posted at 19:26:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We prefer Muskateers
DUCK_RABIES · 11 points · Posted at 20:01:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You win.
Killer_Tacos · 3 points · Posted at 20:17:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Damn, that was good
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:46:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I prefer Puttermesser and the Muscovite cousin
Robertcharlespdx · 0 points · Posted at 19:51:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That story was never finished.
Baublehead · 0 points · Posted at 21:08:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The platform will be called "Tresbook".
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 21:55:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I want to be a Musketeer!!! I volunteer as tribute!
Morphie12121 · 29 points · Posted at 19:12:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
until they eat Novgorod and blob into Russia
thundersquirt · 5 points · Posted at 19:40:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That extra colonist will be useful when they get to Mars.
RIOTS_R_US · 2 points · Posted at 19:46:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Siberian Frontiers is a lot better for Mars though
LolTriedToReBlockMe · 5 points · Posted at 20:12:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/unexpectedeu4
2SP00KY4ME · 6 points · Posted at 19:28:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/elonmuskcirclejerk
Eustace_Savage · 4 points · Posted at 21:04:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/EnoughMuskSpam is what you want.
2SP00KY4ME · 4 points · Posted at 21:06:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I know that ones more active, but I feel like circlejerk gets the point across better. It's not like they're gonna subscribe anyways.
Eustace_Savage · 2 points · Posted at 21:12:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Anything that potentially exposes them to opposing views is healthy!
Treantacles · 6 points · Posted at 19:28:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was thinking Musketeers.
sexxndruxx · 3 points · Posted at 19:41:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Please stop. This has reached unreasonable cringe levels.
Mizarrk · 3 points · Posted at 19:31:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He'll make a new one that 17 people use. Let's go back to Myspace y'all
meluckycharms123 · 1 points · Posted at 19:28:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How do I join Musktown?
Kazmr · 1 points · Posted at 19:56:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Muskr; the social media platform for Musks.
phymatic · 0 points · Posted at 22:23:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I for one welcome our new musk overlords
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 19:11:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We are their social media team.
IdidothBawx · 8 points · Posted at 19:02:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I believe Tesla's advertising is built 100% on social media...no print or TV. Anyone know differently?
drunktypo · 1 points · Posted at 20:49:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Also launching their cars into space
51Cards · 5 points · Posted at 19:00:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Their social media team will be doing a lot more than just Facebook.
escientia · 3 points · Posted at 19:11:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don’t worry Facebook also owns Instagram, and the SpaceX and Tesla pages are still active.
ActionPlanetRobot · 3 points · Posted at 20:16:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, as someone who builds content and 3D animations for social, one of my dreams was to collaborate or work for SpaceX/Tesla. I guess not anymoreee.
TheHooDooer · 3 points · Posted at 20:55:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hardly. Get them focused on Twitter, Reddit, Snapchat, Youtube, Instagram, Pinterest, Tumblr. Facebook is a gaping wound in the Internet.
The_mighty_sandusky · 5 points · Posted at 19:08:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
*horns blare
*Wendy's social media team appears
We got this.
JohnP93 · 4 points · Posted at 19:53:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Seriously, headline should be "people lose jobs becaue of Musk PR stunt."
NoooUGH · 2 points · Posted at 19:21:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don't think there every really was one. If Elon didn't know there was a FB page for them and since they don't do advertising, why have a social media team to begin with? It was probably put together by a few people that have a different job there at SpaceX and Tesla and kept under wraps from the higher ups. I would also imagine whomever actually created/ran the page is getting a big slap on the wrist today.
BarrySmart · 2 points · Posted at 19:01:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
RIP Reddit?
abeuscher · 2 points · Posted at 19:32:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Social Media is an entire discipline. Posting on Facebook is like a tiny part of it, and traffic from other channels may well convert higher for them, depending on what their objectives are in the space. I'm sort of surprised people don't find that more apparent, considering how many inbound notifications all of these channels provide to remind us of their existence and relevance.
J11Wars · 2 points · Posted at 19:34:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah that’s every social media team’s dream. Do you know how much more fun twitter and Instagram are?
Source: social media guy
BrahmsLullaby · 2 points · Posted at 19:38:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm willing to bet Musk will set them up somehow. He wouldn't take a PR hit like that.
YogaMeansUnion · 2 points · Posted at 19:38:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
implying social media is just, or even primarily, facebook? What decade are we living in again?
BigPandaX · 2 points · Posted at 19:39:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Social media team now has the task of creating an alternate social media site.
Prince-of-Ravens · 2 points · Posted at 19:40:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don't worry, this does not affect their reddit jobs :)
zkareface · 2 points · Posted at 19:42:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Now they can focus even more on reddit.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:43:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Front page of Reddit and news headlines everywhere. It'll be back up citing customer concerns shortly.
Galaxy_Ranger_Bob · 2 points · Posted at 19:51:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Only if he also deletes his Twitter account, too. They are just as bad as Facebook.
sarahisneat · 2 points · Posted at 20:14:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There are other platforms.
Elcatro · 2 points · Posted at 20:21:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If my brief time working with a social media team translates to other businesses, it was probably one massively overworked person doing it and they're quite happy right now to have more time for other stuff.
JudgeHoltman · 2 points · Posted at 21:20:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If they're worked like the engineers, at least they can finally get some sleep and see what's left of their families.
druglawyer · 2 points · Posted at 21:27:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
deleted What is this?
anglomentality · 3 points · Posted at 19:59:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh no, all those value creators!
Truly the gas pump attendants of the internet.
RileyGoneRogue · 2 points · Posted at 18:58:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Makes space for official Tesla Tumblr blog!
awildkookappeared · 2 points · Posted at 20:14:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
yeah wtf? probably a bunch of layoffs b/c of a twitter dick waving contest
orangepalm · 1 points · Posted at 19:09:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Send em here!
dao2 · 1 points · Posted at 19:13:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk won't fire himself ;p
errormsg · 1 points · Posted at 19:26:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Exactly. How are they suposed to reach out to my grandparents now?
Golem30 · 1 points · Posted at 19:26:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They had as much shelf life as an average Tesla engineer
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:34:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Like Tesla, SpaceX or any of them need social media to promote them anymore anyways.
However, I will say, they should have made a Facebook page for the Tesla in Space
iPissPurple · 1 points · Posted at 19:44:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Either that or Elon just made their jobs much easier.
makemeking706 · 1 points · Posted at 19:48:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can still post to reddit.
davidbklyn · 1 points · Posted at 19:55:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Welcome to the world, Tesla’s new social media platform
Xanius · 1 points · Posted at 20:01:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
With the new profile pages coming there'll be an official Tesla and spacex and solar city account with a profile and chat team. No worries for the social media team needed.
iamthewhite · 1 points · Posted at 20:04:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’d hire more to help company visibility recover
NightHawkRambo · 1 points · Posted at 20:05:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tesla's social media team - Quickly makes a myspace page
Anla-Shok-Na · 1 points · Posted at 20:11:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Now responsible for building a new a social media platform to replace Facebook. Server to be hosted on Mars.
throw_my_phone · 1 points · Posted at 20:19:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
All done by one fan. Just imagine the power he had over the social media team of Tesla.
MicrocrystallineHue · 1 points · Posted at 20:27:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There should be escape/eject pods for firings that fast at a space company.
Brofissthe3rd · 1 points · Posted at 20:38:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't see why they need a social media team it's not like they customers with rocket booster issues anyways
HighPriestofShiloh · 1 points · Posted at 20:46:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They can hang out on reddit now!
uberfission · 1 points · Posted at 20:58:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah they still have Instagram and Twitter.
canbeeran · 1 points · Posted at 21:00:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But then who will give me that the engagement metrics of white men from 50-65, who earn over $150k a year and are going through late life crises' ?
LetMeBeGreat · 1 points · Posted at 21:00:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk: "We have a social media team?"
sickjesus · 1 points · Posted at 21:35:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I thought the same thing. Probably a team at some ad agency that has other clients. Not sure if they do their advertising in house.
sunnygoodgestreet726 · 1 points · Posted at 21:46:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
they never existed, at least in Elons mind
martin519 · 1 points · Posted at 21:51:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If anything they've got more work to do now.
duff0062 · 1 points · Posted at 21:57:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ha unlikely, they probably posted this article to reddit themselves
cchiu23 · 1 points · Posted at 22:07:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah they're toasting each other right now, deleting facebook will drum up more publicity than had they stayed on it
ethanemilio2 · 1 points · Posted at 22:18:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They'll still have Plenty of other media to work with
TrumpKingsly · 1 points · Posted at 22:27:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
RIP any social media team. A marketing job is not stable if it ties itself exclusively to a tech, a platform or a medium. MarCom manager who uses Social Media when its strategic is what you want to be.
[Channel] team dies as soon as leaders want ROI figures the channel can't deliver. Or it politics its way into prolonged life. Both bad outcomes.
RadChadAintYoDad · 1 points · Posted at 22:40:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There’s still plenty of work for them. Honestly getting rid of Facebook probably makes them more efficient since they are no longer getting trolls and answering stupid ass questions from Facebook users. It’s like the yahoo answers of social media.
repzikaros · 1 points · Posted at 23:14:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If he didn't know there was one then it wasn't even his team...
potato1sgood · 1 points · Posted at 23:19:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They can always relocate to reddit...
screwyoudaniel · 1 points · Posted at 23:39:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is this an actual thing? they have time to respond to this now, I'm guessing
WillTheGreat · 1 points · Posted at 23:40:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Now will musk delete his Instagram?
mcrackin · 1 points · Posted at 23:59:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The people responsible for their social media accounts are probably part of a larger marketing team with an astronomical amount of work to keep them all busy.
somedudefromerlange · 1 points · Posted at 00:21:40 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
They'll get new jobs. Expect more tweets full of acid
Grande_Latte_Enema · 1 points · Posted at 02:02:58 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’m sure Musk will find work for them
WinningIsForWinners · 1 points · Posted at 02:08:39 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Shhh.. If they lay low enough they might survive this since Musk apparently didn't even know about them.
Deaddeathdie · 1 points · Posted at 02:23:24 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don't worry, they're still here, working hard to keep space x and Tesla on the front page.
sol8712 · 1 points · Posted at 02:23:48 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Your comment made me laugh and feel sad at the same time, congrats?!?!
discosoc · 1 points · Posted at 02:45:38 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure Musk is the social media team.
Jasonrj · 1 points · Posted at 02:55:07 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's probably a large communications department that's doing a lot more than just posting on Facebook and other sites.
alt_generic_acct · 1 points · Posted at 02:57:38 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
"WTF is our CEO DOING?!? We're going to lose our jobs! Who's that asshole on twitter?!"
CaptMorgan74 · 1 points · Posted at 03:13:17 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
As the online marketing manager for my company, that was my first thought as well.
the_real_junkrat · 1 points · Posted at 14:14:18 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
So, Elon Musk?
Nullrasa · 1 points · Posted at 14:47:07 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
They're probably already working on finding new platforms to put their presence on.
Reddit's becoming popular.
InsistantLover · 1 points · Posted at 16:11:05 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are they still on Friendster?
AlmightyKyuss · 1 points · Posted at 20:07:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh, I'm sure they'll figure something out.
More or less they put the first "car" in space.
dustyoldbones · -1 points · Posted at 19:31:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Good. That shouldn't be a job anyway
C2D2 · 0 points · Posted at 19:25:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Indeed. RIP them apart. The CD's have spoken.
YoungKeys · 0 points · Posted at 19:40:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They probably don't have a "social media team". It's probably just one of the responsibilities that several of their product marketing managers or comms people share.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:31:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I can't imagine they had a whole team just for FB posts. It would have been rolled in to a larger job or sourced to an agency. They still need PR work, just not through that medium. If they did have a team then he just saved the company some money.
throwaway2600god · 0 points · Posted at 20:37:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You mean
Rip Facebook
Just deleted all of my accounts. Not deactivated DELETED in 2 weeks it will be gone forever:) and so will fakebook
Ezira · 0 points · Posted at 22:25:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He'll just launch his own form of social media. 'tis the Elon way.
I_DO_GOOD · -6 points · Posted at 19:00:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You mean worthless employees? Yes, good bye.
huxley00 · -2 points · Posted at 19:27:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you had any idea what running a social media campaign entails these days you’d know having a Facebook page is a very small part of that. Not to mention that they are exactly the types of company to think outside of that spectrum.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:30:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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huxley00 · -2 points · Posted at 19:40:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're being kind of an asshole. Essentially made a joke, expecting people to know it is a joke...then come back and insult me for using specific phrases and terms? For someone who is in charge of social, you have the graces of a neanderthal.
Sgt_America · 687 points · Posted at 19:26:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
'Whats a computer?'
Mybeardisawesom · 338 points · Posted at 19:55:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fuck I hate that commercial
Randal4 · 112 points · Posted at 20:42:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Better version: https://youtu.be/jCb-WcxO5SU?t=00m50s
grilleddd · 41 points · Posted at 21:02:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Go tell your mom your computer's broke. She'll know what you're talking about.
lol so good
BurnerForSafety · 6 points · Posted at 02:35:04 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh I see that’s how we’re gunna play it.
Echoandcharlie · 6 points · Posted at 01:16:06 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Mahk is my favorite!
cornelius_snow · 41 points · Posted at 21:00:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's fucking horrible. The worst part, is if you look on her tablet you can see that the quirky, tomboy girl's name is Scout. SCOUT!! Talk about ham fisted 🙄
PMmeAboutLingerie · 17 points · Posted at 21:13:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was going to buy a new Mac book a month ago. A friend showed me that commercial. I now flat out refuse to buy one. Looking at other options. We need to take a stand against shitty commercials.
cryo · -24 points · Posted at 22:09:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You do that. I think it’s a pretty good commercial.
UhhPhrasing · 19 points · Posted at 22:43:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why doesn't she know what a computer is? Is she dumb? Are iPads for dumb people? Is that the point of the commercial?
Meatslinger · 10 points · Posted at 23:09:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The premise is supposed to be that we’ve transcended the need for a traditional “desktop with monitor” or even “laptop with keyboard” as a means to engage with the world of technology; now that portables are rapidly taking over, the definition of a “computer” is meant to have less meaning compared to all the other mechanisms by which data can be accessed. Idea is supposed to be that the iPad falls into this category of “transcendental” devices (and that you should buy one).
But yeah, even as a SERIOUSLY long-term Apple fan, I’m happy to say that’s a godawful ham-fisted advertisement.
Edit: well fuck me for explaining it, I guess.Edit2: this was post-work me getting incensed about an immediate downvote on what I thought was a helpful post. It was hasty and childish.
UhhPhrasing · 11 points · Posted at 23:27:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ha! I appreciate the effort. But to me it just makes her seem like a moron. She's supposed to be this smarty pants but doesn't even know what a computer is. Unless she's just being condescending.
Meatslinger · 4 points · Posted at 23:30:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Exactly the problem with it. They could’ve conveyed the child-like sense of wonder and amazement over figuring out that “there used to be these archaic, desk-bound devices we had to use to communicate and learn” more effectively if she didn’t look like she should reasonably know what a computer was just from ordinary life experience.
Throwaway_Consoles · 5 points · Posted at 02:52:18 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think the problem is people are putting themselves into the commercial. We all grew up with computers, how could someone NOT know what a computer is?
I have a nephew in third grade who has never used a desktop or laptop computer. Instead of buying books, they put all the textbooks on iPads and their homework is stored on their iPads as well. Their homework is graded on the iPad before they go to bed.
The school was also able to toss out the computers since every student has an iPad. I’m sure the administrators have computers, but when he saw my desktop computer, he said, “WHOA! What’s that?”.
So yeah, some kids won’t know what a computer is.
cornelius_snow · 3 points · Posted at 03:57:49 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're wrong. It's not.
jmz_199 · 3 points · Posted at 06:33:38 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I used to think opinions were okay, but I think you've changed my mind.
InterdimensionalVamp · 5 points · Posted at 22:30:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thanks for your input Apple.
PMmeAboutLingerie · 3 points · Posted at 22:10:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, for Dell.
cadam43 · 5 points · Posted at 23:07:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Every time someone makes a reference to a commercial and I don’t know what they’re talking about, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
ImprovingTheEskimo · 3 points · Posted at 00:05:42 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's more meme than commercial fool
Is_Lil_Jon · 2 points · Posted at 23:37:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why? It's a good exceution
fuck_reddit_suxx · 0 points · Posted at 23:25:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I hate people who express inane excerpts from their internal monologue.
translinguistic · 3 points · Posted at 02:33:24 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Your life sounds frustrating hon. 👍
fuck_reddit_suxx · 0 points · Posted at 13:49:24 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Emoji use indicates pre-adulthood.
Mybeardisawesom · 2 points · Posted at 14:17:13 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Attacking someone solely on how they communicate is ignorant.
fuck_reddit_suxx · 1 points · Posted at 18:54:51 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
even if their comment misses the purpose of both the forum and the topic, doesn't contribute, and essentially clutters any meaningful discussion from happening?
oh well, enjoy your pun threads and sequel memes, advice animals, and unfounded obbservations in place of topical discussion relevant to your interests rather than a marketing campaigns
Angry_Magpie · 18 points · Posted at 20:12:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
'WhAtS a CoMpUtEr?"
MeatyZiti · 1 points · Posted at 03:01:53 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
If they replaced computer with laptop like the following, it would have worked spectacularly:
greengo · 9 points · Posted at 20:22:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
“What’s a computer?” Retrieves live rabbit to begin blood ritual at the Apple altar. “Ok Timmy, no WWDC for you this year and you get 10 minutes of iPad time per day.”
micasubs · 2 points · Posted at 01:47:52 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
What’s a potato?
TensorBread · 2 points · Posted at 22:19:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Even better "what is Aleppo?"
MassiveHoodPeaks · 2 points · Posted at 22:32:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What the fuck is the internet?
https://youtu.be/h5tcAXMDxfY
Mvem · -16 points · Posted at 20:06:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit double standards at work here
El_Giganto · 25 points · Posted at 20:12:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Double standards? What's a computer is stupid because it's not a branded tool you can really hate. Why would anyone hate computers while they're on Reddit? Like, what should our negative feelings towards computers be? If you don't like Intel, you can still make a computer without using anything Intel related. Hell even Apple makes computers.
The Facebook comment is obviously just taking a dig at Facebook. Not because Musk doesn't know what Facebook is, it's just obviously taking the piss.
SumoSizeIt · 26 points · Posted at 20:18:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What's a computer? was dumb because an iPad is a computer. It just came off as a mix of arrogance by Apple and ignorance by the character.
El_Giganto · 4 points · Posted at 20:21:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That too, but that's still vastly different from why we think "What's Facebook?" is funny.
BaronHarkonnen81 · 1683 points · Posted at 18:47:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I didn’t even realize Facebook owned both WhatsApp and Instagram. It will be hard to disentangle from Facebook if one wants to maintain any type of social media presence.
ManMan36 · 2036 points · Posted at 18:56:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Exactly why Facebook made those purchases. They have realized that millennials don’t care about their main platform, so they diversified.
Foepys · 1792 points · Posted at 19:07:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Millennials do care. It's GenZ that doesn't care. Sometimes reddit forgets that millennials are now old enough to have kids in middle or even high school.
dancingliondl · 841 points · Posted at 19:20:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm 37, I have a 16 year old daughter and an 18 year old niece, neither of whom use Facebook at all. It's all Snapchat and Instagram for them.
BanginNLeavin · 262 points · Posted at 19:36:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And then we realize that Facebook was initially unsubscribable without a valid college email address.
tekym · 260 points · Posted at 19:39:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I member when (i.e., I signed up when) you could only sign up with a valid .edu email address from a school that FB had specifically set up a network for.
Luis__FIGO · 46 points · Posted at 20:59:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I remember emailing Mark Zuckerberg to get my school added, it was based on how many emails he got from each schools domain.
Bastard had us waiting for months
Gird_your_loins · 31 points · Posted at 20:17:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yup. It was ivy leagues only initially.
hechacker1 · 8 points · Posted at 20:37:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
When I signed up I think the UC schools (UCSD) were also in on that beta.
codeByNumber · 3 points · Posted at 21:44:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Soon after us plebs at SDSU got it too 😂
justaboxinacage · 16 points · Posted at 21:19:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I didn't get a fb account until finally like 6 years ago because of that. For the longest time my mentality was "fuck those elitist assholes". I guess if you once considered facebook for elitist assholes, then you're pretty old these days.
Nerf_hanzo_pls · 4 points · Posted at 22:22:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I remember when my older brother was looking at colleges, one of them that he was interested in Texas used the fact that they had access to Facebook as a benefit. How times have changed eh?
yoohoochocolatemilk · 2 points · Posted at 03:32:29 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think Baylor was the first B12 school to get it, but the rest of those schools followed quickly after.
boxercar12 · 7 points · Posted at 20:44:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
When I signed up you had to be invited. Old school. Delete time!
thesouthbay · 14 points · Posted at 21:01:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
When I signed up you had to be a roommate of Zuckerberg.
boxercar12 · 1 points · Posted at 21:02:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
When I signed up, Jesus had to allow you to
eehreum · 1 points · Posted at 22:55:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
When I signed up I let Zuckerberg sign up after me.
BawsDaddy · 3 points · Posted at 22:28:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I too was one of the ancient ones. I remember I did dual credit in high school and had a Facebook before my circle of friends. I was... The cat's meow. 😺
Bayho · 1 points · Posted at 01:43:42 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
The Facebook!
tablepennywad · -1 points · Posted at 20:43:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Pepperidge farms members?
cchoe1 · -6 points · Posted at 23:09:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Congratulations! You were 18 years old before some other groups of people! Woah!!!
SA311 · 8 points · Posted at 19:39:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They changed this my senior year of HS, and thus opened the floodgates from MySpace
burlycabin · 3 points · Posted at 20:22:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Which helped drive it's popularity. It was a genius move.
eaglessoar · 2 points · Posted at 20:27:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yea I was so stoked when before it went to anyone I did a program at Notre Dame and we got nd.edu email addresses so we all signed up for facebook a year or so early
AutistStonerManchild · 2 points · Posted at 22:09:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Now it’s just the Walmart of social media.
lysergic_gandalf_666 · 2 points · Posted at 00:09:10 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I signed up in 2004 when it was thefacebook.com.
Facebook is utterly over. I am deleting except I need messenger.
nrhinkle · 1 points · Posted at 01:22:55 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
And now Facebook is practically ununsubscribable altogether... once you subscribe it's hard to undo!
GameKyuubi · 77 points · Posted at 19:41:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram is owned by Facebook. I originally lost interest in Facebook after it stopped giving chronological feed updates. FB knows they can keep people addicted for longer if they meter your information, feeding it to you slowly and pseudorandomly so you're never completely caught up on your news, there's always a reason to refresh that feed. It's really manipulative and now that IG is doing it too (no doubt at FB's request) I see no reason to use IG either.
coffeefueledKM · 15 points · Posted at 21:17:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The timeline thing really sucks. That and never seeing all your friends updates. That made me turn FB off and I use IG solely. That's going down the same route though which is really sad.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:16:13 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is there an option that isn't just pictures? I hate other people's pictures, but I use FB to stay in touch with an international friend.
125e125 · 6 points · Posted at 01:26:17 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You go to the IG subreddit and it's all people complaining about how it has turned to Facebook and looking for an alternative. Only a matter of time for Instagram, in my opinion. Facebook tends to ruin a good, simple thing.
Flymia · 2 points · Posted at 00:29:03 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You know you can make your timeline go to most recent in FB right?
-kindakrazy- · 1 points · Posted at 23:36:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Do you have to set that every time? Or is it a permanent setting?
Flymia · 1 points · Posted at 03:58:17 on March 25, 2018 · (Permalink)
each time. Wish you could just leave it. But it takes two clicks on the phone. And then it will stay that way on one tab.
dirtyEarthSpiritSpam · 2 points · Posted at 01:18:18 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I really want to ditch instagram but as a chef it's one or the best says to see what other chefs are creating and marketing. It's a shame
[deleted] · 137 points · Posted at 19:29:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My sister is 14 and doesn't use Facebook at all either, I don't get it tbf Instagram is just photos and stuff, I can only go on it for 10 minutes at a time
_soundshapes · 104 points · Posted at 19:33:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's honestly a nice way to be able to keep up with people I actually care about without getting sucked into the social media black hole. Like you said, after about ten minutes I start getting bored and go do productive stuff instead (i.e. switch over to Facebook and scroll for 2 hours haha)
wasteoffire · 15 points · Posted at 19:39:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Do you not use facebook to keep up with people you actually care about? Instagram is literally just people trying to look sexy/pretty or show off for a camera and it's very shallow. Facebook is where I have open forum discussions with my friends and share the occasional joke. If you have people you don't care about on Facebook I think you're using it wrong.
rds_rds · 31 points · Posted at 19:42:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My Instagram is literally just motorcycles/cars/bicycles trying to look sexy/pretty or show off for a camera. It's awesome.
_soundshapes · 19 points · Posted at 19:50:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I could just as easily say if the only people you follow on Instagram are shallow showoffs trying to prove how pretty they are, then you're using Instagram wrong. Then again that would be kind of silly.
wasteoffire · 5 points · Posted at 20:00:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wouldn't be against the idea that I'm using it wrong because I haven't used it much. I never said there's one way to use Facebook, only that the very reason of your complaint is apparently due to the way you choose to use it.
_soundshapes · 2 points · Posted at 20:37:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My biggest complaint is the same people re-hashing the same content ever day. I will say, its a fair argument that I'm connected with the wrong people, but I also don't have the patience to go unfollow ~75% of my friends to get my feed back to something bearable. That part is on me, and I'll fully admit it.
Having said that, I would still argue that the platform itself contributes to the amount of low quality garbage that comes across my feed. People can still definitely post garbage on Instagram but being limited to posting pictures as opposed to being openly encouraged to broadcast every single thought you've ever had directly leads to it being less of a circlejerk, imo.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 21:01:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hey yall, lets fight more about social fucking media...
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 21:35:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why are you so argumentative?
morawn · 1 points · Posted at 21:17:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No one is fighting, wtf?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:04:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You wanna fight about it?
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 22:11:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you broken
jrobthehuman · 3 points · Posted at 20:22:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Your mileage may vary. The truth of either (any?) platform is that the content is generated by the people you are connected with.
Pantzzzzless · 3 points · Posted at 20:28:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If I care about people enough to keep up with them, I call or text them, and if time permits then we hang out in person.
If I'm not on closer terms than that with someone, then I don't really feel the need to have their digital presence in my life.
Djentleman420 · 10 points · Posted at 19:59:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think if you are using Facebook you are doing it wrong.
TheRealMrMaloonigan · 1 points · Posted at 19:51:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I never got it either, but whatevs.
DorkusMalorkuss · 9 points · Posted at 20:41:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The thing about it is though that Instagram is what Facebook used to be, back when I joined in 2005 or so. It used to be nothing but status updates and people's pictures and nothing else. I started college in 2005 and remember getting my Facebook with my .edu address and adding friends left and right that I would meet at parties the night before. The morning after a party, I would go on Facebook and look at the pictures from the party or saw what other people were up to in the area. It was legitimately used to keep up with people and see what they did that week, day, or night. Now, Facebook is a bunch of stuff that gives me updates on people's thoughts, feelings, and views which I don't ever recall asking them about, for the extremely vast majority. I have all of these friends that are acquaintances from college who now populate my wall with youtube videos, memes, articles, and a bunch of other stuff that I don't care even a fraction as much about it as they do.
I have an Insta and while I don't use it very much, it's way more what Facebook used to be. Pictures and their comments that let me know what's new with people. The problem is though, as a 30 yearold, I am far removed from college now and don't have an interest in adding all of the acquaintances from college, which means that my Instagram followers/following lists are super small compared to Facebook; this means I don't use Facebook too much because it's "crowded" with stuff I don't care about and I don't use Instagram much either because I don't have as many people on it as Facebook.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 21:37:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah I remember back in around 2008/09 when I first got it, it was just to keep up with people now it's just videos and news and just general shite
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:59:08 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Now Facebook has the "Memories" and now I'm seeing random posts from 4 years ago from people.
LiberatedCapsicum · 15 points · Posted at 19:46:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I use Facebook messaging but nothing else. 23.
LezBeeHonest · 6 points · Posted at 20:50:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Same. Mostly bc of the video chat and some of my friends that don't have phone plans.
SirRandyMarsh · 0 points · Posted at 21:58:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We have a few group chats that are set to private so me and the brocean can talk shit and plan events with out the other half’s knowing what we’re up to
oldguy_on_the_wire · 4 points · Posted at 20:35:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It seems everything is getting more visual as time moves on. Between faster networks and stronger processors on mobile phones it is pretty much child's play to send rich media. Since that allows for more eye candy and its resulting clicks and eyeballs that can be sold to advertisers. So we are here at IG.
I'm not overly fond of it, being a cold fool from the old school before AOL was a thing and a reading kid that grew most of the way up without a TV. I find myself thinking "They asked if they could do it, but never thought to ask if they should do it." and feeling like I should go out and yell at someone to get off my lawn! :o)
Prof_Acorn · 3 points · Posted at 20:29:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's the point I think. The GenZ kids have even shorter attention spans than we did. Why read a post when you can swipe a pic?
I'm hoping reddit doesn't leave behind it's text-based community if and when it transitions to the ephemeral UX of tinder, instagram, buzzfeed.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 21:14:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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AbsolutlyN0thin · 2 points · Posted at 22:28:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
On the bigger subs sure. But once you get to the smaller, more niche ones it's a lot better.
coffeefueledKM · 1 points · Posted at 21:11:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's an interesting point- I never even thought that Reddit was text-based and completely at odds with 99% of other social media. (Does Reddit even qualify as 'social' media given that it's users can remain 100% anonymous?)
notvonweinertonne · 1 points · Posted at 21:50:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Honestly if the photos are their stuff is be 10x more interest.
Where as Facebook is just memes ads and cool things you share. Very little of it is organic content like it used to be for me.
PDXbot · 1 points · Posted at 21:52:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People sell their personal photos on Instagram and Snapchat. Watch out for child porn
TheR1ckster · 1 points · Posted at 12:19:06 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's only pictures taken from the mobile app... So it really makes spreading chain posts of political shit hard.
Finally accepting Instagram and using it was a rather large positive decision for myself. I've actively made many connections in communities I care about.
viciousbreed · 1 points · Posted at 20:00:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Trying to use Instagram to sell some of my photography, and I hate it. I never had an Instagram before this. It does get my website views, but... ugh. It definitely falls under the category of "work." But it's a free platform, so I can't complain. Except for the whole data breach thing.
Custodious · 1 points · Posted at 20:03:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
its kinda surreal, facebook is about to become the next bebo, we're coming full circle.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 21:00:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Only ten minutes at a time? How much of your day in chunks are you trying to dish out to social media?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:34:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm not sure I follow haha
[deleted] · 10 points · Posted at 19:41:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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themoochiest · 3 points · Posted at 21:02:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you me?
X0AN · 13 points · Posted at 19:45:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
37 is pushing it to the limit of being a millenial tbf :D
Chryis · 4 points · Posted at 20:27:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Snapchat declined a $4B acquisition from Facebook, IIRC. That would have been even more spread lol
digbybare · 12 points · Posted at 19:48:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure you're Gen-X. Millennials are born after 85.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 21:30:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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digbybare · 1 points · Posted at 22:04:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep, sounds fair. I think anyone born in near the mid-80s is pretty borderline, and probably has more to do with where/how you were raised.
jmalbo35 · 2 points · Posted at 23:51:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
1980 or 1982 are generally the cutoffs for millennials (the term was used to refer to people who would become adults in the 2000s), so it's reasonable for a 37 year old to be considered a millennial (although just barely).
digbybare · 0 points · Posted at 00:13:21 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Honestly, I'm not even sure why I made that comment. Just saying something to say something, I guess.
I just remember 1985 because the last time I read anything about Millennials, I remember that year being quoted, because I remember thinking my brother-in-law and I are different generations.
But personally, I agree that the line between generations is always fuzzy, and anyone born in most of the 80s could qualify for either.
Maybe a good metric would be, what did you watch as a kid: Speed Racer or Dragonball Z? Josie and the Pussycats or the Powerpuff Girls? Looney Tunes or Spongebob?
BetterNothingman · 0 points · Posted at 22:27:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fuck this. Im so sick of being on the cutoff. I was born in '86 and identify more with GenX than anything else. But GenX'ers hate me, too.
Vik1ng · 3 points · Posted at 20:05:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wait until they go to college.
BearViaMyBread · 4 points · Posted at 19:35:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Coincidentally, Facebook requires reading, while snapchat and instagram are just thoughtless scrolling and clicking
2Pac_Okur · 2 points · Posted at 20:07:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I am 28 and my friends between 25-35 don’t even give a fuck about Facebook. All instagram.
pridEAccomplishment_ · 1 points · Posted at 20:36:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Do those two come with a messenger similar to facebook?
PM_ME_UR_SMILE_GURL · 1 points · Posted at 21:45:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
22 here and graduated college a year ago. Out of the hundreds of people I met in University only 3 actually used Facebook. Pretty much everyone had one but nobody actually logged in anymore.
It's all Instagram and Snapchat, really.
PDXbot · 1 points · Posted at 21:55:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
According to teens(males and females, 13-18) in my family, those sites are for selling teen porn.
Valalvax · 1 points · Posted at 22:12:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But how is you avocado toast?
amicaze · 1 points · Posted at 22:46:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram is Facebook, so acchually...
jocq · 1 points · Posted at 02:39:27 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Do you consider yourself a millennial? I'm 37 and I always thought I was tail end of gen x
dancingliondl · 1 points · Posted at 03:53:34 on May 1, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm 37 as well, and I don't know. Maybe I am? I'm definitely in the Oregon Trail generation...
mrGAMERGURL · 1 points · Posted at 19:48:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
...So they're still using facebook.
Same Shit Different Front End
AlphaMaster1337 · -2 points · Posted at 19:56:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
u did something wrong
skulblaka · 195 points · Posted at 19:35:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm 23, I don't even know what I am anymore. I was (apparently) born too late to be a 90's kid, always assumed (and was told) I was a millennial, now I'm being told that millennials are older than me and GenZ are the ones that care about the things I care about.
WHAT AM I
TehMikuruSlave · 121 points · Posted at 20:03:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
we're young millenials
sofranniwaslike · 35 points · Posted at 20:11:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
apparently a rule of thumb if you're on the cusp of millennial and gen z is if you remember 9/11. If you do, you're a millennial.
BukkakeKing69 · 58 points · Posted at 20:29:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you can remember 9/11, the original PlayStation, and the horrors of AOL dialup you're a millennial lol.
sofranniwaslike · 27 points · Posted at 20:39:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
yeah I'd say those are solid determiners. Another good one is if your first cell was a smartphone, you're gen z
UpvoteBecauseIcan · 10 points · Posted at 00:39:24 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
All about the razer motrolla things, those sleek flips that looked (at the time) awesome.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:08:10 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oooh fancy. I grew up with one of those Nokia bricks with an extendable antenna. And I'm a millennial. THAT'S how quick this crap has changed in the last 15 years.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:56:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Car phone baaybee!
wsteelerfan7 · -2 points · Posted at 21:55:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What if I got my first cell at age 14?
MassiveHoodPeaks · 2 points · Posted at 22:35:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Was it a smartphone?
wsteelerfan7 · 0 points · Posted at 22:41:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
1st-gen iPhone, and it was actually when I was 13. I also remember being in class during 9/11 and watching the very first episode of SpongeBob
sofranniwaslike · 2 points · Posted at 15:43:33 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
that's how old I was when I got mine and it was a krzr. I guess it also depends on how much money your parents had or how much they wanted to spend on a phone for their kid or what phones were available through your local providers at the time, etc. so that's probably not, like, the pillar of being a millennial haha
edit: clarity
wsteelerfan7 · 1 points · Posted at 20:10:48 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
For me, it was like the signal/moment we stopped being poor
DorkusMalorkuss · 28 points · Posted at 20:44:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But 9/11, the original PSX, and the horrors of AOL are spread out by like 7 or 8 years.
Mercy_X · 11 points · Posted at 23:33:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thats why i think it is just by how you remember the internet growing up. No internet? gen x. Shitty dial-up? Millenial. Wi-fi? gen z
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:29:19 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I recognize that I am an exception to this because I lived in the middle of nowhere, dirt road. We had dial up until it was no longer available and then we paid out the ass for satellite. We didn't have dsl installed until like 2011 ish, I think I was like 13, and it was 1.5 Mbps because fuck you CenturyLink. The satellite and dsl were both like 70-80/month too
I was born in 96, do not remember 9/11 and the internet raised me after age 11. Got a flip phone at 11, android smartphone(a 50 dollar prepaid one) at 13. I guess I was among the first of genz.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 22:09:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Boo_R4dley · 3 points · Posted at 22:16:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
AOL went online in 91.
Playstation came out in 94.
FusRoYoMama · 6 points · Posted at 20:43:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
keeerrrr bleeeee kuurrqqq blap blap blap beeeep
Finally!
BukkakeKing69 · 8 points · Posted at 20:49:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
After 2 minutes of whirring..
WELCOME
YOU'VE GOT MAIL
5 seconds later
GOODBYE
"What the fuck! Not again!"
ImanShumpertplus · 2 points · Posted at 20:58:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don’t remember 9/11, but I had Dial up until 2007 and my ps1 (that sleek white one) until like 2003
Stealth_Bird · 3 points · Posted at 21:21:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My PS1 still works. Thing is older than me (18).
ImanShumpertplus · 1 points · Posted at 21:31:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I might go play NASCAR rumble on an emulator right now. Had so much fun with that thing
eToast · 1 points · Posted at 22:13:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
ah that startup sound was sweet music
caveman512 · 2 points · Posted at 00:50:40 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I remember the day it happened, I don't remember much else about it though. My classmates (some of which are younger than me) talk about how vividly they remember staying home and seeing it on the news. I remember hearing something about it on the radio on the way to school and that's about it.
Ayoc_Maiorce · 10 points · Posted at 20:15:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You are a millennial, as long as you are born in 1995 or earlier you are considered a millennial.
Apllejuice · 3 points · Posted at 21:34:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
1980-2000 actually. But titles really make no difference.
Ayoc_Maiorce · 4 points · Posted at 22:40:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’ve heard it both ways, some say 1995 is the cutoff others say 2000
Apllejuice · 5 points · Posted at 22:54:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Usually go by:
•remember 9/11=millennial
•doesnt remember 9/11=gen z
It's just easier to go 80-00 since they're nice even numbers, rather than 82-97 or some shit like that.
NotMyThrowawayNope · 4 points · Posted at 00:03:58 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
But my parents completely hid the fact that 9/11 even happened from me... Though I'm sure I would have been old enough to remember if I had been told. WHAT DOES THAT MAKE ME
Apllejuice · 1 points · Posted at 01:57:13 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
They... What? Why even?
NotMyThrowawayNope · 2 points · Posted at 10:46:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was too young to learn about the big scary world, according to them. They even got my siblings and friends parents and such to agree on not telling me about it.
LanikM · 1 points · Posted at 09:14:59 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You comment reads like you're unsure how old you were when 9/11 happened.
Cars-and-Coffee · 2 points · Posted at 02:16:31 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
1980-1995 seems to be the more common definition
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4813244/Are-millennial-cutoff-change.html
The article talks about how it was assumed to be 1999 before but researchers started noticing behavior shifts of those born around 1995. The differentiator being those born after 1995 likely grew up with smart phones.
Tumbling-Dice · 9 points · Posted at 20:20:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
While there isn't an agreed upon range of years for the Millennial generation (unlike Boomers, which is more or less set in stone at 1946-1964), most measures put the end of the Millennial generation in the late 90s. Since you're 23, you were born in 1994 or 1995, which would make you a Millennial. Being a "90s kid" or an "80s kid" is related to which generation you are from, but it doesn't decide it. It's detached since people from different generations can come of age in the same decade.
golson3 · 1 points · Posted at 22:47:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Jones
DrMobius0 · 5 points · Posted at 20:11:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're pretty much right on the cusp. Have fun being some crazy hybrid all your life
golson3 · 1 points · Posted at 22:19:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It ain't so bad. I'm in the Oregon Trail generation.
[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 20:11:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm just really glad we just use "this generation, that generation, my generation, your generation, etc" in my country.
Sw429 · 3 points · Posted at 20:26:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As a fellow 23 year old, I can relate.
TheJDUBS2 · 3 points · Posted at 21:10:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
US Census Bureau defines the range from 82-00
Usually a gen lasts about 20 years so I always just think 80-00
mr_wholesome · 5 points · Posted at 20:39:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
1997 i think is the cutoff date but its controversial
RunswithW0lv3s · 7 points · Posted at 20:10:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As a 20 year old I'm in a similar boat, I've always identified more with the Millennial label because I'm close to that, I don't understand the Gen X or Gen Z thing though!
jiggityjackson · 7 points · Posted at 20:16:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ur gen z bru u don’t remember 9/11
NotMyThrowawayNope · 2 points · Posted at 00:06:12 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think 4-5 year olds at the time can definitely remember 9/11
Suszynski · 5 points · Posted at 20:49:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s right on that cusp. I’m 21 and I remember 9/11 clear as day. Didn’t fully understand it at the time of course, but even then I knew I was watching history unfold
arivas · 8 points · Posted at 21:05:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How the hell do you remember 9/11 when you were 4? I was 10 and I barley remember it.
Suszynski · 5 points · Posted at 21:33:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was 5. I remember it being all over the news, the look of shock on my parents faces, and the juvenile hope that an catastrophe this big meant I didn’t have to go to school. I still had to go to school. My incredulousness at not being able to skip is what probably made it stick with me.
golson3 · 2 points · Posted at 22:17:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was the same age when the wall came down and remember it pretty clearly. I think the memory hook was more the adults reaction than me understanding what was going on.
PM_ME_YOUR_YAK · 1 points · Posted at 21:49:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm 20 and I remember 9/11, I'm not even from the US. It was my very first day at school and I remember going home and seeing some buildings on fire on the TV.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:25:34 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you trying to tell us that you went to school at the age of 3½?
PM_ME_YOUR_YAK · 1 points · Posted at 04:33:29 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reception class in the UK. Starts at 4-5, after nursery (kindergarten)
LordoftheSynth · 1 points · Posted at 06:17:14 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
There are plenty of 3-year-olds in organized preschools and this might be what OP is referring to.
CylonBunny · 1 points · Posted at 03:04:00 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Gen X is the generation between the Boomers and Millennials. Before the Millennials got that name they were sometimes referred to as Gen Y as a play on Gen X. Gen Z is in the same vein. They might one day have a different name, I've heard suggestions such as Digital Natives, but who knows? Gen Z seems pretty popular. The youngest babies being born right now are on the cusp of Gen Z and Gen Alpha, but honestly we can't really know where that distinction will be drawn yet either.
dontgive_afuck · 9 points · Posted at 20:05:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You are you. Fuck titles.
dcnblues · 5 points · Posted at 20:12:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Close. Fuck titles that don't mean anything.
994phij · 2 points · Posted at 21:04:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why do you care what label you get? Generations are arbitrary groupings that encourage over-generalisation.
BURN THEM DOWN.
NathanExplosion22 · 2 points · Posted at 22:55:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don't stress about it bro. The entire convention of giving generations stupid names if pure bullshit.
TraineePhysicist · 3 points · Posted at 20:13:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It doesn't matter were too cool/stressed/woke to care. They are all just bullshit BuzzFeed terms.
furmal182 · 1 points · Posted at 20:58:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Dude stop it is Friday and i dnt want to spend my weekend resolving my existential crisis.
-Bacchus- · 1 points · Posted at 20:59:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're a person.
Embowaf · 1 points · Posted at 21:03:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're on the borderline between millennial and what they're calling gen z because no one has come up with a good name yet.
God help us when we move onto the next one and there isn't even a consensus letter to use to refer to that generation. It's going to be madness.
ape94 · 1 points · Posted at 00:01:25 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Gen Edge/Gen Edgers. Or so I was told by a speaker at a work conference a few weeks ago who spent 3.5 hours explaining all the various generations and what makes them tick.
Damarkus13 · 1 points · Posted at 21:07:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Overly concerned about an arbitrary distinction.
hoodatninja · 1 points · Posted at 21:24:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Good question
spock23 · 1 points · Posted at 22:06:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You are a young adult.
pooterpant · 1 points · Posted at 22:21:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Zalladi · 1 points · Posted at 22:23:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
22 here, I hear you brother.
Ubernicken · 1 points · Posted at 22:54:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The Millennial gen stop at 95. So you're the technically the un/fortunate last few before the queue got cut off and the rest got classified to some other group
EpicSource · 1 points · Posted at 22:58:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You are a human being, ditch the labels!
TheNorthernGrey · 1 points · Posted at 23:12:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We’re millenials
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:15:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you're near the threshold between generations then you can pretty much just choose to be either depending on which one you identify with more at any given time.
Supersnazz · 1 points · Posted at 23:26:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You are a person like everyone else. Generational labels are complete bullshit.
jimjam112 · 1 points · Posted at 00:00:59 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You might as well make up a definition like 'true millennial' because it's all nonsense anyway.
Katana622 · 1 points · Posted at 00:14:51 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ive always stuck with millennial are born '85-99 and gen Z is 2000+ if youre close to the line then its going to be weird as someone born in 85 is quite different from someone born in 99. I think it works as a grade school range.
Idiot_Savant_Tinker · 1 points · Posted at 00:26:59 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
The issue is Baby boomers attaching the word "melennial" (I Know that's spelled wrong) to any group of younger people they don't like.
madogvelkor · 1 points · Posted at 00:32:21 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're like me - the last of your generation with more in common with the next generation. I was born in 78 so I'm GenX, but have a lot more in common with millennials.
Infini-Bus · 1 points · Posted at 00:58:50 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's how my parents are. They're culturally closer to being Gen X'ers but according to things like Wikipedia, they're at the tail end of being Baby Boomers...
LordoftheSynth · 1 points · Posted at 06:09:31 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're a late Millenial IMO, just like I'm a late Xer (1978).
"90s kid" or "00s kid" is a little fuzzier. It's hard enough to define the boundaries of a generation, defining something similar for a single decade produces a lot more overlap.
I wouldn't call you a 90s kid because you were still in kindergarten at the end of the 90s.
I can be called a 90s kid, I was in middle and high school for the majority of the decade. I came of age in that decade.
But I'm also sort of an 80s kid too, because I spent most of the 80s in elementary school. I can clearly remember 1981, and I remember living through some of the touchstone events of the decade.
Or another way of looking at it: I have an aunt who was born in the mid 1960s. I remember her being in college. I also have two cousins who were born in the late 1960s. I have more shared cultural experiences with them than I do with my aunt, despite the difference in their ages being only a few years, and having seen more of her than I did of them. These divisions aren't just a simple matter of a number.
It was interesting though, the time when someone in another thread here insisted I was a Millenial and that I don't get to choose, when I have more in common with my fellow Xers.
TheR1ckster · 1 points · Posted at 12:20:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
People change the generation classifications as they need to to fit their narrative.
naijaboiler · 1 points · Posted at 21:44:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Simple question? where were you and what were you doing when 9/11 happened?
Totally aware => millenial
vaguely recollect => GenZ
ImanShumpertplus · 0 points · Posted at 20:59:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Born in 95 and I have no idea. Hoping they come up with something like xennials to make us feel better.
justaboxinacage · 0 points · Posted at 21:22:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Same thing happens to every generation. The truth is that it takes a retrospective to properly assess generations. (Born in the mid 80s) I remember first being told I was Generation X. Then I was told, no you're generation y. Now I hear people saying I'm a very early Millenial. I'm not even sure if Gen Y exists anymore, there can't be that many generations between 1985 and now. I'm still confused.
mrpeabody208 · 0 points · Posted at 21:32:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Allow me to make it easy for you. If you were not an adult on 9/11/01, you are a millennial. There is some give or take there, but that covers almost everyone.
NotAllTeemos · 23 points · Posted at 19:33:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
24 here, late millennial, no one uses Facebook anymore. Insta is king.
Young_Hickory · 6 points · Posted at 20:16:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Your poor grandparents :(
toohigh4anal · 8 points · Posted at 20:13:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Older millennial here..how do you use Instagrams for social media?
lowenbeh0ld · 6 points · Posted at 20:49:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
27 here, you tag your friends and companies with their products and be really hot or a cat. Also stories and live stream your smoke sesh, if you're a hot girl that is
toohigh4anal · 1 points · Posted at 21:10:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ah. Yeah... I'm not a hot girl. Guess I don't need one.
ElitistPoolGuy · 3 points · Posted at 21:01:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
28 here. FB and Insta is dead. Some of my friends use snapchat but not everyone..
jrharvey4 · 1 points · Posted at 21:20:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
33 here. My parents and all their friends use FB. Most of my friends only use the messenger.
tehbored · 1 points · Posted at 01:41:41 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
My younger brother and his friends seem to favor Snapchat. I'm not that old, but I'm too old for that shit.
[deleted] · 14 points · Posted at 19:23:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To old people, anyone that is smart knows how to use computers is a Millennial. GenZ knows how to use tablets, which is enough to look tech-savvy to old people.
money_loo · 15 points · Posted at 19:30:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What’s a computer?
Tweegyjambo · 10 points · Posted at 19:45:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Every time I read or here this it induces rage in me. Already disliked Apple products but that fucking ad!
Gyshall669 · 4 points · Posted at 19:30:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook is tanking among everyone tbf.
Retrotrek · 8 points · Posted at 19:30:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’m GenZ and I forgo social media due to privacy concerns years ago.
white_genocidist · 3 points · Posted at 19:45:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's not just Reddit. Millennials has become a catch all term for "young ppl" though that's been outdated for a while.
Tweegyjambo · 14 points · Posted at 19:12:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Know at least one millennial with a kid off to uni this year.
raginwriter · 7 points · Posted at 19:25:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Millienials were born from like 85 -95 yeah if you had a kid at 16 in 2001 I am sure that kid is going off to college. I was 17 when I graduated from high school. Makes sense.
setto__ · 4 points · Posted at 19:42:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I thought millennial was 1980+
chula198705 · 2 points · Posted at 19:59:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think officially it's 1981. My husband was born in '82 and he's mostly millennial-like with a large side of gen x anti-authoritarianism.
Eustace_Savage · 1 points · Posted at 21:31:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Born in '83 and can attest to our anti-authoritarianism.
[deleted] · -4 points · Posted at 19:15:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well that's just inaccurate unless their kid skipped like eight grades
[deleted] · 26 points · Posted at 19:20:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
oldest milenials are 36, could have a kid at 18 and they would be 18 now
Greasy_Exc · 10 points · Posted at 19:29:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No I’m <does age math>... crap, I am gonna be 36 this year. Getting old sucks
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 19:33:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
its gonna be weird when "millenial" means "retired" like boomer does now
SumoSizeIt · 1 points · Posted at 20:12:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We really should have stood up for a better nickname for ourselves
DorkusMalorkuss · 1 points · Posted at 20:48:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think millenial sounds cool haha
SumoSizeIt · 2 points · Posted at 20:59:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I only take issue with it because it became a pejorative for an entire generation, to a degree I haven't seen with boomers or gen X.
Everything became millenials are killing this, and here's how to talk to millenials that, like we're some debased group of antisocial anarchists under observation.
Everyone wanted to discuss millenials, without them being a apart of the conversation themselves.
CountryTimeLemonlade · 11 points · Posted at 19:18:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Assume the person was born in say... 1985, well with the millennial range. If they had a kid when they were 18, in 2003, that kid would now be 15. So someone born right at the beginning of the millennial range who had a kid young could conceivably be sending that kid to uni this year without skipping any grades at all
melenkor · 10 points · Posted at 19:26:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There's also plenty of millennials that had kids before 18 too
Hugo154 · 4 points · Posted at 19:39:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, but their kids aren't likely to go to uni at all.
salgat · 5 points · Posted at 19:26:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's actually right at the edge of Millennial and is debatable (there technically is no defined range which is why it's debatable).
Galyndean · 8 points · Posted at 19:34:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Gen X pretty much always stops at 1980 and most articles that discuss millennials start around 1985, so the whole 1981-1985 years are just in case nebulous hole of existence.
Dave2onreddit · 4 points · Posted at 19:53:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oregon Trail Generation
tip0thehat · 1 points · Posted at 20:08:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
‘83 here, and this feels way more accurate for me than X or millennial.
Galyndean · 1 points · Posted at 20:08:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh, I know, but people don't really talk about the Xennials too much, hence still being in a nebulous hole.
Hopefully, it catches on a bit more.
Goku_4_Star · 2 points · Posted at 20:38:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They were the middle child.too old and too young for stuff.
Bloody_But-Unbowed · 1 points · Posted at 00:15:59 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
If that were true, wouldn't there be other pocket generations? http://www.kylemcmahon.me/theres-no-thing-xennials/
Galyndean · 1 points · Posted at 00:35:57 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think the issue with your article is what I touched on in my comment. Most articles seem to start their millennial data around 1985 and the Gen-X data ends around 1980.
So if you're talking about Millennials and your data doesn't start until 1985, then either you're not actually talking about millennials or the people between Gen-X and millennials are a cusp generation.
Bloody_But-Unbowed · 1 points · Posted at 01:49:16 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sorry, this one is better: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/03/01/defining-generations-where-millennials-end-and-post-millennials-begin/
OrangeYoshi · 1 points · Posted at 19:22:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In what country does university start at age 15 as standard?
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 19:23:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
if you skip 2 years of highschool, /u/CountryTimeLemonlade is wrong
CountryTimeLemonlade · 3 points · Posted at 19:37:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wikipedia lists early 1980s as the beginning. I went 1985 to be very clear. Just make it three years earlier and call it good.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:45:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
your 1985 timeline was wrong. not 1980.
CountryTimeLemonlade · 1 points · Posted at 19:57:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No. It wasn't. The point was not that someone in 1985 would have a kid in college, although I suppose they could. The point was that someone who is beyond question within the millennial range could have a kid of approximately college age. If you'll excuse the minor typo of "with" vs. "within" you can easily see the point I am making. Sorry if I was not clear enough for you
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:32:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
if your kid is 15 years old, and hasnt skipped any grades, they should not be in college.
CountryTimeLemonlade · 1 points · Posted at 20:49:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm not sure what you are missing here. My example, if you think about it even a little, makes very clear that there are at least three ways a millennial could have a kid in college:
1) The millennial could be born further towards the early limit of the generation.
2) The millennial could have had a kid before they themselves we're 18.
3) The kid could have skipped a grade or two. Significantly less than the 8 the person I originally replied to flippantly suggested.
I hope this helps.
iamtomorrowman · 12 points · Posted at 19:19:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
teenage pregnancy wants a word
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:58:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No thanks I'm scared
Tweegyjambo · 9 points · Posted at 19:22:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This lass was born 81/82, had a kid at 16 which would be 97/98, which would make her kid 18/19.
Counterkulture · 11 points · Posted at 19:23:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I honestly think a lot of people sincerely believe anybody older than 25 is too old to be a millenial. They have no idea.
Tweegyjambo · 4 points · Posted at 19:27:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, some millennials will be in their 40s in a couple of years.
Counterkulture · 8 points · Posted at 19:27:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I know those millennials. They are me.
Good_ApoIIo · 4 points · Posted at 19:34:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think the opposite is true. Most old people I've met saying "damn millennials!" all the time seem to be regarding anyone younger than 40 as a millennial.
_sinon_ · 2 points · Posted at 19:26:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Born in 97/98 would make them 20/21.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:56:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wouldn't count them as millennial but maybe I'm wrong
Tweegyjambo · 1 points · Posted at 20:03:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Generally, Millennials were born from early 80s to mid 90s.
Lacinl · 6 points · Posted at 19:17:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In an older millennial and if I had a kid when I was 14-15 like a couple of my classmates s/he could be starting college.
mizzou590 · 6 points · Posted at 19:25:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Demographers and researchers typically use the early 1980s as starting birth years for the millennial generation. The claim may very well be accurate.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:57:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ive read the cutoff to be much sooner too.
FlyingPhotog · 2 points · Posted at 19:26:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nope. Casey Neistat fits that criteria.
Counterkulture · 8 points · Posted at 19:22:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If i had a kid when I was 20, they'd already have graduated from HS (or would have this year).
Am Millenial.
C2D2 · 5 points · Posted at 19:30:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Damn. This stings a bit. But I concur. Father to a millennial and a gen-Zer. Millennial lives by social media, gen Z son doesn't give half a shit about it.
DJ__Isco · 2 points · Posted at 19:48:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Im 21 and I've always been told I'm a millennial but ive seen conflicting opinions on where millennial ends and gen z starts recently. Nobody I know uses Facebook for much besides birthday reminders and keeping family up to date occasionally for graduations and things like that. Insta Snapchat and Twitter are way more popular.
SumoSizeIt · 2 points · Posted at 20:10:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What do you base this on?
Internetologist · 2 points · Posted at 20:25:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No one thinks of the 35-year-olds when they think millennials, they think current twentysomethings whereas Gen Z are currently (pre)teens
jertyui · 1 points · Posted at 22:00:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not really? Gen Zs can be in college right now.
Internetologist · 1 points · Posted at 22:14:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
teenagers (18-19) can be in college, and I would include Freshmen/Sophomores in their ranks.
jimjam112 · 2 points · Posted at 23:59:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Millennials, GenZ - you realise this is all meaningless bullshit right?
echo-chamber-chaos · 1 points · Posted at 19:31:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Millenials and Gen Xers care less about facebook with each passing year. It's grandma that still uses Facebook. I see less actual engagement on facebook every day.
RichGirlThrowaway_ · 1 points · Posted at 19:41:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
WTF is a millennial dude, I have no idea what these terms even mean anymore. I can't keep up.
mirziemlichegal · 1 points · Posted at 19:49:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think millenials and generation z are stupid terms and often confused. Doesn't help that the definitions for them can't even state clearly what they are.
SumoSizeIt · 3 points · Posted at 20:14:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's worse when they get mixed. What was wrong with calling us Gen Y, following Gen X, prior to Gen Z?
And what happens after Z? Are we going to name ourselves after spreadsheet columns? Gens AA, AB, and AC?
Player8 · 1 points · Posted at 19:53:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Am millennial, don't care about Facebook. Realized how toxic it was years ago and deleted my profile.
SumoSizeIt · 3 points · Posted at 20:15:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I still keep it for the events, and they know this. There's a reason they're pushing a separate Facebook Events app.
PM_ME_YOUR_YAK · 2 points · Posted at 21:53:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Same here, I don't think there's any other apps/social media that can keep up with events like facebook does
DynamicDK · 1 points · Posted at 19:55:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm 30 and don't give a shit about Facebook. I created an account when it was still only available to college students, and used it pretty regularly for a few years, but I didn't like many of the changes. I still have an account, but very rarely use it, and will probably delete it soon.
tacoyum6 · 1 points · Posted at 19:58:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Unless there is a nationally accepted "date" of GenZ beginnings, the line will be fuzzy, bud.
FinallyGotReddit · 1 points · Posted at 19:58:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Eh, what really gave Facebook the power was gen x and baby boomers adopting it. They’re old and they won’t change easily, if at all. I’m a millennial (28) and lots of my friends started leaving in droves a few years ago when they shit all over the news feed and forced ads and bullshit clips people think are “funny” down our throats. That being said, these young kids don’t even remember that Facebook was the elite social media experience just a few years ago. Facebook started out making profits, and sold what little soul they had to increase them year after year.
NameIWantedWasGone · 1 points · Posted at 20:00:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They would have to have had kids very young, considering the oldest millennials are, what, 35?
january- · 1 points · Posted at 20:06:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tbh I still have no idea what a millennial actually is, I've seen varying reports that it is anything born from the 80s up to like.. today?
ApfelLowe · 1 points · Posted at 20:18:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Shut your mouth trying to call anybody that played Oregon Trail in school a millennial.
golson3 · 1 points · Posted at 22:54:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's going to depend on where you went to school then. OT was strong into 96-97 at my school, but those born in '90 are pretty clearly millennials.
Farns4 · 1 points · Posted at 20:23:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well the US Census defines the last millennials as being born in 1999 which would make the youngest millennials 18-19
Eat_Mor3_Puss · 1 points · Posted at 20:35:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are there any stats on this? I'd find it interesting. I think you're right that Gen Z hates FB. Millenials care more than GenZ does, but it doesn't seem like they care much except for Messenger. FB is like old person central now.
Delta_V09 · 1 points · Posted at 22:45:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
A lot of Millennials seem to have relegated FB to major announcements. Maybe career stuff, but mostly relationship things - getting engaged, married, having a kid, etc.
It is still useful for things like that where you want to make a big announcement to all of your friends at once. But the Baby Boomers and Gen Xers are the only ones I see still posting mundane, everyday crap on FB.
SuperKato1K · 1 points · Posted at 20:38:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is a good point. A lot of people, maybe even most, still think of that cohort as maybe just graduating from college. Some of the first millennials are entering their 40s.
GoldenBrownApples · 1 points · Posted at 20:42:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm 26 and haven't had facebook for almost two years now. In my case though it kept recommending that I friend my ex-girlfriend and the dudes she tried to "sell" me to. Like, no thank you. O-o
Now the only people I hear talking about using facebook are my grandparents oddly enough. My grandmother's third husband is all about that shit.
Stenny007 · 1 points · Posted at 20:46:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Millenials range from 1980-2000 which means a lot of millenials are still below 25 (including me) and instagram became big when i was in my late teens.
My generation def doesnt need facebook. Nearly none of my friends use it actively, unlike insta.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:26:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sometimes it baffles me how much reddit users live within the confines of this website's own circle jerks. If you think either millennials or gen z aren't using Facebook you're completely clueless. No, some of them aren't using it as heavily as other apps like Snapchat and Instagram (although a huge chunk do), but they still have profiles that they check and update fairly regularly.
Allieareyouokay · 1 points · Posted at 21:55:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Most millenials aren’t on Facebook actively. We are on snapchat and instagram. I have a Facebook only to keep up with out of state family.
eddiekart · 1 points · Posted at 22:11:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The fuck is GenZ and the exact definition of a millennial
Valalvax · 1 points · Posted at 22:13:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What I don't get is the people writing those "millennials are...." articles are almost certainly millennials....
BELFORD16 · 1 points · Posted at 22:18:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was actually reading an article the other day about how the military now needs to focus on Gen Z because there are millennials who now have their 20 years. That specific article cited 1996 as the last year that millennials were born.
Telandria · 1 points · Posted at 23:08:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This. I’m technically a millennial by definition, having turned an adult post-2000, and I’m in my mid-30’s.
And I don’t GAF about social media, because I have actual friends.
Red5point1 · 1 points · Posted at 01:16:34 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
how do millennials manage having a wife and kids while still living with their parents?
tehbored · 1 points · Posted at 01:40:25 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Very few millennials have kids that old. The oldest millennials are only 33 or so.
iateadonut · 1 points · Posted at 02:46:12 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
what are they going to call the next gen before they give it a name? millenials used to be called genY. will they add letters to the alphabet?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:04:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I know right? MySpace, anyone?
In my 30's and just now catching on to FB, and everyone's like "pssh it's all about Instagram, etc now". F*ck it.
exemplariasuntomni · 0 points · Posted at 19:56:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No one who's anyone cares about facebook.
BaronHarkonnen81 · 66 points · Posted at 19:01:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I never got into Instagram. It’s just pictures of other people doing fun things. I do like WhatsApp though because it lets me talk with my friends out of the US. Social media is our new way of life, we just need less douchy people in charge of it.
WolfGangSwizle · 80 points · Posted at 19:20:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I like Instagram because it's just pictures. I don't have to read friends opinions and stupid shit they share. I can see what my friends and select celebrities have been up to without having it get political or seeing dumb memes that just aren't funny and shit. I also skateboard so like if you aren't on Instagram if you skate you're missing a lot happening.
jhguth · 9 points · Posted at 19:58:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I would use instagram if the photos were in chronological order like they used to be
WolfGangSwizle · 2 points · Posted at 20:23:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah this bugs me a lot
dbr1se · 2 points · Posted at 21:21:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The algorithm deciding your feed is what originally fucked up Facebook. To actually see what your friends were up to you'd have to go to their pages individually. It's only gotten worse since. Instagram's feed will face the same shit.
1_800_COCAINE · 1 points · Posted at 22:47:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They're changing this back somewhat in the new update, apparently
WolfGangSwizle · 2 points · Posted at 23:09:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Do you deliver?
1_800_COCAINE · 1 points · Posted at 02:25:12 on March 25, 2018 · (Permalink)
Babies? Sure, how many you need?
ahh_mino · 6 points · Posted at 19:39:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And yet they still managed to screw that up with profiles of people who post nothing but text memes
WolfGangSwizle · 10 points · Posted at 19:40:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah but I can not follow those and never have to deal with it. I don't follow those on Facebook but I have friends who can share stuff and I then see. I can choose to not see these friends posts but some of them are some what good friends and it just becomes terrible.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 22:44:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you implying none of that garbage is on Instagram?
WolfGangSwizle · 2 points · Posted at 22:50:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No it's there, it's just easier to filter it. My friends don't make posts of their own about politics, they share stuff from other pages. So following my friends on Instagram I never see it where as Facebook I will. I can go all day on my Instagram without seeing a single thing about politics. I just looked at my Facebook feed now, and saw 3 political posts within the first 15 posts. And right now in the country I live in politics are at an all time annoying, our prime minister is getting ripped on for doing stuff every prime minister does. Our PM is far from perfect but people are flipping out that he talks politically correct and is making the government use politically correct language. I see daily memes cause he dressed up in Indian wear while in India calling him Mr Dressup, shit that doesn't even have to do with politics and they're all saying he's the worst PM of all time. Sorry for ranting but yeah I can't look at Facebook without seeing it, it's quite annoying. Instagram I see pictures of my friends doing stuff or going places, or I see skateboard tricks, it's a much better place.
Telandria · 1 points · Posted at 23:16:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
“I don’t have to read friends opinions” “Seeing memes that just aren’t funny and shit”
See, those aren’t actually friends.
Real friends are involved in each other’s lives.
They laugh at each other’s jokes because they share interests.
They care about what each other think because they share emotional bonds.
They care about each other’s politics because politics actually has an impact on your life whether you believe it to or not.
They talk about each other’s victories and support each other through failures and hard times.
What you have are acquaintances. People you barely know and barely care about and hope to maybe get a little validation out of.
This is the curse of social media. I’m not gonna go all old-fogey and maunder on about how you can’t have proper friends over online spaces, because that’s just bullshit. But Facebook, twitter, and the like have all changed the face of what the word ‘friend’ even means, until we have a whole generation that is obsessed with triviality.
WolfGangSwizle · 2 points · Posted at 23:25:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Everything you mentioned is stuff you do with friends in real life. I'm not scrolling through Facebook or Instagram to make bonds and share opinions on matters. That's shit I do everyday in real life outside of social media. I go on social media to more or less just see what people I don't keep in close contact have been up to (or just see what's going on in the skating world). You're completely right in saying they're just acquaintances, it's just easier to type friends cause they're all still people I'd stop and talk to if I saw them around. I just don't see the point in knowing all their opinions on stuff that just doesn't effect my life.
hoodatninja · 0 points · Posted at 21:25:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just a fair warning, you may hate seeing political posts, but politics are part of your life and impact it every day. Feel free to avoid it socially, but people need to stop using “political” as a pejorative. You can effect it and makes positive difference.
WolfGangSwizle · 1 points · Posted at 21:39:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No I follow politics fairly closely, within my own country at the very least and follow big news globally. When I'm using social media, I just want to see what my friends or skateboarders I like are up to. I lived in a town with tons of Oil Sites around and have more than a few friends with very ignorant conservative views who share stuff based on headlines or share memes that are straight up propaganda. Looking at my Facebook feed somedays is just toxic. Our Prime Minister made a joke and it got taken out of context and a 20 second out of context clip and memes about it cluttered my news feed with captions "this guys a joke." None of them thought to get the full context, also while this was going on a bill was passed to take away more of our privacy and not an eye was batted. I understand the need to keep up on politics just Facebook is a cess pool when it comes to political opinions.
Atreiyu · -1 points · Posted at 20:16:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Isn't that just purposely staying ignorant though?
If your friend is a flat earther, or he hates X people, or he believes in a cult - it doesn't matter because you don't like seeing that?
WolfGangSwizle · 3 points · Posted at 20:26:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If their a close enough friend I would know that without seeing their social media. If their not a close enough friend to know that then it doesn't really concern me.
DiscreteBee · 11 points · Posted at 19:04:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It can also be pictures of you doing any fun things you do
Mute_Monkey · 11 points · Posted at 19:08:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Joke’s on you, he never does anything fun.
Koolaidwifebeater · 1 points · Posted at 19:09:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Stop it I'm crying in relatability!
BaronHarkonnen81 · 1 points · Posted at 19:12:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I do to. I play a mean game of Monopoly.
Losalou52 · 2 points · Posted at 19:16:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram is a huge marketing tool for online Businesses
warb17 · 2 points · Posted at 19:41:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Obviously you’d need to get your friends to use it too, but I recommend Signal over WhatsApp. Primarily because Signal is encrypted and not owned by Facebook.
paper_liger · 2 points · Posted at 01:28:31 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's pretty great if you have any hobbies. I make cryptic boring compositions of random stuff I notice then give it a pretentious title. Instagram give me a place to put that stuff as well as keep track of all the comedians and painters and sculptors and what have you that I follow.
It's a very low investment way to pass some time and put stuff out into the world.
jimjones1233 · 2 points · Posted at 19:08:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram has started to copy snapchat after they do anything. So it's a photo platform and they have all those AR filters and "stories". At least I think so I don't use it either.
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 19:12:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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jrjr12 · 5 points · Posted at 19:16:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
nope. just like every change, people complained for a day and now nobody gives a shit
SomeDonkus1 · 3 points · Posted at 19:18:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Honestly since the new update came out, I almost never look at the menu that shows all the official stories. Kinda consolidated it into less menus for me, so I can dig it.
AmericasNextDankMeme · 3 points · Posted at 19:14:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tbf Snapchat is ass. Until this week it was their plummeting stock value making headlines. Not because they sold data to anyone (though they could/probably are) but simply because their interface is total ass.
dedservice · 1 points · Posted at 19:15:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
...the only reason I use facebook messenger. That and group chats (which aren't available through basic SMS).
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:20:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There are myriad apps out there just as good as WhatsApp. We just need to get the international crowd on board to really tank it.
Alizardi7423 · 1 points · Posted at 19:27:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I use IG primarily for friends, cars and memes. Nothing else really matters.
Cant-stop-reddit · 1 points · Posted at 19:28:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't know if I would call it a new way of life, I am 35, never had a facebook, I dont know what instagram is and I used twitter for like a week. I think I am getting along just fine.
raffiki77 · 1 points · Posted at 19:31:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you don't mind running the risk of the Chinese government accessing your chat logs you should try WeChat: it's basically the WhatsApp of China, with less douchy people in charge.
LostLobes · 1 points · Posted at 19:42:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Try Telegram and get your friends and family to switch too that's what I did.
ItsACommonMistake · 1 points · Posted at 20:41:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That all depends on who you follow.
pewpewwwlazers · 4 points · Posted at 19:08:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And they TRIED to get Snapchat but Snap held out somehow
b-b-but-communism · 3 points · Posted at 00:38:59 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Huh, what do you think "millenial" means? The oldest millenials are approaching 40. Today's shitters are Gen Z.
The_Godlike_Zeus · 2 points · Posted at 19:10:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So young people don't care about facebook, you and reddit collectively say. That's weird because basically everyone I know has facebook?
Cousin_SadBoy · 2 points · Posted at 19:22:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I use Facebook login for so many apps and services I'd be unable to access half my accounts if I deleted my Facebook, but Spotify is the #1 thing keeping me from doing it. I might be able to copy my current playlists but my starred/added songs that go back 6 or 7 years would all be gone or I'd have to copy thousands of songs one-by-one. They got me.
Counterkulture · 2 points · Posted at 19:21:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They did this with vine, too. Buy it and nuke it. One less place people can congregate and walk off to during moments EXACTLY LIKE we're in today.
Tisjustatossaway · 2 points · Posted at 20:42:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter did that to Vine. Guessing they could not figure out how to monetize it either or could not figure out how to both tie it into Twitter and let it stand alone. But then they also stomped out any adult content on the platform, in response to Apple, I believe.
SomethingSleep · 1 points · Posted at 20:39:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
When will they buy Reddit though?
CanadianAstronaut · -8 points · Posted at 19:02:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
you're completely wrong there. Facebook is the gold standard, everything else barely exists by comparison
MummiesMan · 5 points · Posted at 19:05:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're out of touch.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:24:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm out of time.
MummiesMan · 1 points · Posted at 20:11:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But I'm out of my head?
CanadianAstronaut · -2 points · Posted at 19:07:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
no, you
MummiesMan · 0 points · Posted at 20:02:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Haha, but for real, young people are turning more and more away from facebook. I know plenty of people without one, but they all still have instagram, and until the newest update mostly snapchat.
CanadianAstronaut · 0 points · Posted at 20:47:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The Vast majority have facebook. You're experiencing observer bias
MummiesMan · 1 points · Posted at 21:21:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm well aware of observer bias, and if you'd read up on these things, you'd find that facebook has more user visits per month, but that younger people are switching over to instagram and other apps like snapchat (again before the new update). It's not just what i observe, ( i dont even use instagram for example). It's the trend that been happening fir some time now, and especially since the Cambridge Anylitica news.
Eustace_Savage · 0 points · Posted at 21:33:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Outside the reddit bubble literally no one gives a fuck about this.
MummiesMan · 1 points · Posted at 22:10:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
👍 whatever you say my guy.
CanadianAstronaut · 0 points · Posted at 22:47:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
if YOU'D read up on things properly and look at the numbers, it's an insignificant proportion. Show some stats and numbers to back up your claims.
C.A. has also been limited. Again observer bias. I'm fine with facebook shutting down, but that isn't what is happening.
MummiesMan · 0 points · Posted at 07:16:27 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I love people like you. You just start arguments, completely unaware of the very real possibility that you may not know as much as you think you do. After, rather than do the five seconds of googling required, you demand sources without providing any of your own.
So here you go.
CanadianAstronaut · 0 points · Posted at 19:42:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just as I thought, you read the headline and not the actual statistics. 3.4% fewer people joining than previously is what it says. You simply aren't interpreting those numbers correctly.
The way they present the numbers it SEEMS like 22.% percent increase in instagram or snapchat is significant, but compared to the traffic facebook gets, it's still nothing.
You really have to learn the units and numbers they are dealing with before you come at me with some bullshit argument that you are neither educated about or prepared for.
Conclusion? they aren't leaving facebook, the growth has just stagnated (as is to b expected when you control basically the entire market), and people are simply ALSO using those other services. Take a fucking epidemiology course and read a fucking statistics book.
MummiesMan · 0 points · Posted at 11:13:34 on March 25, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wrong. Also, if you'd bothered to read even just the headline, you'd see it right there..
Yea.. anyway,
Wrong again, and honestly, if you aren't trolling, and you did in fact read both or even just one of the articles i linked, then your reading comprehension is atrocious, and you probably shouldn't be starting arguments with people. sorry for the tangent, back to the point.
Wrong.
So, in 2017 14.5 million people will use Facebook. This is a decline of 3.4%, which means 507,500 less young people will be on Facebook.
In fact, it does mention what you spoke of,
However, this is in addition to it also verifying my original point, which was
Literally from the first article
Also,
Here's another for you, and ill help break this one down for you,
Ok, so all users, but were looking at young people, right? It goes on to say,
So, how about Instagram then?
Again, ok, but this is all people, so again if we read on,
Alright, so there's Instagram, and now to revisit what was said about Facebook
So then, both Snapchat, and Instagram, will see increases in users among young people, whereas Facebook will see a decline. Less people using Facebook, more using Insta and Snap. Just as it says word for word in the article
So there it is, the important bit. Now is where i tell you that its laughable that you say
All while lacking any of your own sources, prepared with absolutely no arguments what so ever, and reading comprehension that is comparable to that of a bananas.
Conclusion? they ARE leaving facebook, i suggest you grab a tutor, get yourself a library card, and then rent out all the books you can on reading comprehension, epidemiology, statistics, and natural burn remedies.
CanadianAstronaut · 0 points · Posted at 14:19:21 on March 25, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's so funny, You completely misinterpreted very statistic. Even after having it explained to you.Go take and fail a statistics course, then get back to me.
This is like talking to a fucking 15 year old. You really aren't nearly on the same level and think you can hold a convo.
Move along, not worth my time.
MummiesMan · 0 points · Posted at 20:21:07 on March 25, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lol. Exactly like i said before, and completely expected, no argument, no sources, just a salty idiot who lacks the ability to read properly. It's so funny, you didn't "explain" anything, instead you had an entire article spoonfed to you, and then completely failed at any sort of retort or logical comeback. Have a good one bud.😘
CanadianAstronaut · 1 points · Posted at 02:54:28 on March 26, 2018 · (Permalink)
look in the mirror,get an education. Your own sources work against you. You just don't know how to read them.
MummiesMan · 0 points · Posted at 14:31:32 on March 29, 2018 · (Permalink)
Still no retort or explanation, eh?
CanadianAstronaut · 1 points · Posted at 18:43:17 on March 29, 2018 · (Permalink)
Go pay tuition and get an eduation, it's not my job to do it for you.
MummiesMan · 0 points · Posted at 19:22:13 on March 29, 2018 · (Permalink)
I feel so bad for you my man, here's hoping you learn better someday.
CanadianAstronaut · 1 points · Posted at 20:49:52 on March 29, 2018 · (Permalink)
Remind yourself in 10 years you wrote this. You're speaking to yourself in the future, at best.
jaylikesdominos · 2 points · Posted at 19:49:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook is for millennials. GenZ doesn’t use Facebook.
Mad_Maddin · 1 points · Posted at 19:04:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I only use Facebook. Twitter banned me 5 minutes after I registered and then I was like "Fuck it"
jimjones1233 · 2 points · Posted at 19:06:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're both right in a way. millennials really don't have huge engagement on Facebook. But it is also the gold standard that almost everyone has because you use it to make profiles on apps to getting discounts at places for checking in.
Edit: Downvote away. I'm not wrong but I'm fine being being considered wrong by reddit popular opinion lol.
LvS · 242 points · Posted at 19:03:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This will be a lot more fun on here when Facebook buys reddit.
Marvelerful · 198 points · Posted at 19:15:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't agree with this. Wait... where's the downvote button?
ZUCKERBERRRRRRRRRG!
[deleted] · 10 points · Posted at 21:34:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Cyclovayne · 7 points · Posted at 21:51:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Zuckerberg is the new Dinkleberg
kartoqraf · 2 points · Posted at 23:41:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's not what the downvote button is for though.
emberaith · 2 points · Posted at 02:58:49 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Okay, you get to tell the majority of reddit that. Let me know how it goes.
stangytangy · 114 points · Posted at 19:13:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To view r/spacedicks, you must first log into your Facebook account.
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Ut_Prosim · 117 points · Posted at 19:26:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
-Notification: Your friend u/stangytangy is currently enjoying r/spacedicks, why don't you join him?-
[deleted] · 95 points · Posted at 20:08:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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themoochiest · 6 points · Posted at 21:03:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
[Dad joins]
vegansaul · 13 points · Posted at 21:34:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Your sister just posted to /r/gonewild/ FB bot created an animated photo book of all 543 photos. Would you like to share with your friends now?
RunswithW0lv3s · 3 points · Posted at 20:11:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Darn, looks like I don't have access to this. Probably would have to message a mod to get access right? Idk how the private communities on Reddit work
Eight_Rounds_Rapid · 3 points · Posted at 21:52:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You don’t want access - carry on and enjoy your life unburdened by knowledge of such things
Ut_Prosim · 1 points · Posted at 23:58:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No! Don't go in there.
Spacedicks is an old and infamous subreddit. All I remember was that it was basically dicks photoshopped into outer space, or sometimes penetrating pizza slices, or penetrating giant pizza slices in outer space. It was really just an excuse to post weird dick pictures.
It got quarantined because it had enough fans to occasionally get the grossest pictures to the front page, which is admittedly hilarious, but totally creeped out the lurkers who never see anything but the front page.
It really isn't worth your effort to access.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:18:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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intern_steve · 1 points · Posted at 23:14:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Active in the sense that it exists and can be posted to, but not active in the sense of being anything close to the cesspool it once was. Content is approximately the same, but it has been quarantined, meaning CSS can't be applied to the page, users must have verified email, there's an explicit opt-in to offensive content you have to click, and there are no ads or gold. The CSS is the big deterrent of all those; it's much more difficult to browse. I guess the emails too, but it's not hard to whip up an address you never use for anything after that verification.
aVarangian · 4 points · Posted at 19:38:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
reddit is on that path already, it's just a mater of time unfortunately
Quantentheorie · 2 points · Posted at 20:51:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
there is a notable difference between five independent tiny facebook knock offs and one facebook owning them.
And something being structurally as dumb as facebook doesn't mean it has the same influence or power of its users. Quitting reddit means you take your data stream away from reddit (unlike facebook who falls back on whatsapp/instagram) and you face zero social repercussions and previous posts are archived otherwise on the internet.
Reddit becoming like facebook is a meme at this point. It would take a lot for reddit to become as powerful and immune to user migration as facebook even if it would look and feel just like it.
aVarangian · 1 points · Posted at 17:52:44 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
take a look at the thread this post links to https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/86b5db/user_elaborates_on_how_reddit_may_be_attempting/
allovia · 2 points · Posted at 19:20:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why would you even fancy the idea of such nonsense, shame on you
giganato · 2 points · Posted at 22:23:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
bitch ass mofo.. stop putting ideas in Zuckerberg's head!
kjbigs282 · 1 points · Posted at 23:21:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm surprised they haven't already
JBWalker1 · 33 points · Posted at 19:06:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think it's fine to still use WhatsApp since messages are apparently end to end encrypted so messages wont be scanned for ad info(not saying they can't access the messages if they wanted, that's a different thing). Plus I think courts in Europe are saying that Facebook can't use data from WhatsApp to be used for facebook.
Just get Facebook out of your lives.
LostLobes · 55 points · Posted at 19:43:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You don't pay 19 billion for something unless you are going to see a return.
whatsthathoboeating · 10 points · Posted at 20:26:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This guy fucks ^
TheMarmelator · 3 points · Posted at 21:59:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're right! Even though they can't read your messages, they can still access all the metadata, so they know who you are writing to, when and how much you are writing. This way they know your entire circle of friends you actually talk to, not just who your Facebook friends are. This is very valuable information.
ticklemuffins · 2 points · Posted at 02:46:37 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Good thing I don't have any friends or talk to anyone then.
365degrees · 3 points · Posted at 22:14:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, that's the main reason I haven't spent 19 billion on something yet
warb17 · 4 points · Posted at 19:43:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Or you could avid the risk of FB’s ownership and use Signal
frozentea725 · 1 points · Posted at 20:50:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
not heard of that before, will check it out
CrzyJek · 2 points · Posted at 21:44:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Signal is pretty much Whisper Systems encryption protocol. Whatsapp uses the same protocol. Only difference is, Signal has servers in Switzerland, and they don't log anything but IP addresses with time stamps for initial connection times, and it's wiped every day. The whole program is also 100% open source and has been vetted by the tech community.
Whatsapp not so much. The only thing public is the encryption protocol. But e2e encryption is not enough and useless if the entire program isn't open source imo.
NatureOP · 1 points · Posted at 20:21:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook doesn't really have a good track history of listening to courts, they have shown that they are more then okay with getting the slap on the wrist.
JBWalker1 · 2 points · Posted at 20:56:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
With GDPR coming in I think companies may change how they behave in Europe. The possible fines for data breaches or mishandling of data will be huge compared to the Data Protection Act. I get constant emails about GDPR and getting ready for it at my company so hopefully the main big tech companies and everyone else are acting in the same way.
I kind of want Facebook to do something bad with our data if it means they get slapped with being fined 4% of their global income, I don't know how much that is but it'll be a big chunk of their profits once you convert it. Of course I'm just going based off of the assumption that fines will be much more stricter once it's rolled out, hopefully they are because there's been way too many data breaches.
DeltaBlack · 1 points · Posted at 20:21:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They say they use end to end encryption, but no one has actually verified that.
WillaBerble · 1 points · Posted at 22:07:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Signal is my messaging app of choice.
DaveDashFTW · 1 points · Posted at 01:33:50 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Except they own the keys that encrypt the data, so they can decrypt it.
I’m pretty sure they have written a back door that “they” can use to recover your messages if need be. They published a white paper on it.
Levitlame · 5 points · Posted at 19:10:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My first thought was "that's easy!" My second was "I already have almost no social media presence." I think I'm old.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:07:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Signal it is then
Khuroh · 2 points · Posted at 19:33:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
WhatsApp uses the Signal protocol for encryption.
DeltaBlack · 3 points · Posted at 20:23:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Signal is open source, while WhatsApp is not. We can review what Signal does while we cannot review what WhatsApp does so we can't verify if they actually encrypt WhatsApp messages at all.
warb17 · 2 points · Posted at 19:43:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes, but one is owned by Facebook and the other isn’t.
TinFoilRobotProphet · 2 points · Posted at 19:07:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I would try untangling first. Disentangling requires several engineers and can get expensive.
crazyrich · 2 points · Posted at 19:37:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Looks like the social media presence of the future is Reddit and... Imgur?
oh no
10art1 · 2 points · Posted at 19:45:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I almost exclusively use Reddit. That might be bad when Reddit inevitably goes bad, too
johnwaters29 · 1 points · Posted at 20:48:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm just gonna gaze at the clouds after Reddit goes tits up
CrzyJek · 1 points · Posted at 21:46:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Inevitably? It already has begun. It started with the firing of Victoria. It's been down hill since then.
johnwaters29 · 2 points · Posted at 20:47:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This coming from the Baron is ripe 😂
CarlosFer2201 · 2 points · Posted at 23:14:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't even think about Whatsapp as a social media. It's a communication tool these days. Important for both private time and for work. It would be hard to get off of it.
rW0HgFyxoJhYka · 2 points · Posted at 00:44:10 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thank Congress for not making it law that any Umbrella Corp that owns a bunch of shit doesn't have to tell people "Subsidiary" or whatever of Major corp.
Yay USA.
PushYourPacket · 3 points · Posted at 19:23:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Use the Signal app instead of WhatsApp. It's the underlying protocol that handles encryption within WhatsApp, but it is open sourced and was founded (in part) by Moxie Marlinspike who, besides having an amazing name (not his real name though), is a well known and respected security researcher.
TootieFro0tie · 1 points · Posted at 19:17:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Snapchat! Too bad they’re going down the toilet too. When all these social media companies went public, their doom was writ.
Daughterofatrucker · 1 points · Posted at 19:24:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram is similar to Pinterest so eh, Facebook sucks so eh, but how do I keep in contact with family in different countries?
liquidGhoul · 1 points · Posted at 23:54:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is my problem. Facebook is mostly trash, but I live overseas and it's occasionally got photos that I'd struggle to see otherwise.
Prince-of-Ravens · 1 points · Posted at 19:42:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thats why they paid double-digit billions for services that create an operational loss: To make it impossible to get out of their grasp.
Ex_Why_ · 1 points · Posted at 19:53:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tinder uses facebook profile pics too.
thecatgoesmoo · 1 points · Posted at 19:53:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The easy part is not wanting to maintain any sort of social media presence.
626Aussie · 1 points · Posted at 20:02:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That also explains why Instagram starting doing the same bullshit as Facebook, and defining their 'most recent' entries as those that were recently commented on, liked, etc., regardless of their actual posting date.
Xanius · 1 points · Posted at 20:03:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah unfortunately for them they've apparently fucked up instagram. When I open the app I get literally no images on the main page. Just an ad to search Facebook for more friends.
No idea how to view image stream anymore.
eaglessoar · 1 points · Posted at 20:07:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook is just for events and a photo repository for me now. If I deleted it I'd probably miss out on a lot of invites or would just be more difficult to hear about. That's the only reason I'm still on it.
BaronHarkonnen81 · 1 points · Posted at 20:08:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I agree. Events and I do like their marketplace. Has a lot of stuff craigslist doesn’t have. But the rest is just shit.
thejed129 · 1 points · Posted at 20:13:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Telegram is a good WhatsApp alternative
CrzyJek · 1 points · Posted at 21:47:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They log things.
Signal is the best out there.
Megacorpinc · 1 points · Posted at 20:17:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Crazy shit, no one needs a social media presence
Father_Toboggan · 1 points · Posted at 20:21:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fuck man what's app is so good. Love sending voice and video messages to family and friends far Away.
Wtf is the alternative?
Parket_boi · 1 points · Posted at 20:26:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Try telegram. It's an equivalent to WhatsApp
Goku_4_Star · 1 points · Posted at 20:37:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And Oculus
ElitistPoolGuy · 1 points · Posted at 21:00:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think you've got your answer.
natephant · 1 points · Posted at 21:11:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not to mention it’s required for tinder and bumble and similar apps.
eobet · 1 points · Posted at 21:24:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook doesn’t own Twitter. I think?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:49:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not really. There are alternative messagers and I mean FB and Instagram look exactly the same to me when my gf scrolls through. I don't use them.
I don't find life hard at all without SM. I have the email and # of people I wanna contact and they have mine.
125e125 · 1 points · Posted at 01:24:14 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook was no problem for me. Among my peer group (late 20's, post graduates, nyc) it has turned into a total ghost town already. Whatsapp is no problem either. I admit IG will be hard, not because I post much but because I like to browse.
deflation_ · 1 points · Posted at 12:36:57 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Viber is much better anyway
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:02:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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IrrevocablyChanged · 4 points · Posted at 19:07:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was going to say something snarky like “And yet here you are telling about it to strangers”
I want to share something positive instead.
It was difficult for me to leave social media, so I think you did the right thing. I’ve been happier since I quit.
MarshawnPynch · 1 points · Posted at 20:13:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But Reddit is social media..so how can you say you quit? Plus you don’t get to tell someone an insult directed at them then say” glad I didn’t say it, I’m keeping it positive”
BillsInATL · 0 points · Posted at 19:04:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Been off everything for a couple months. Not missing a thing. Still in contact with all my family and friends 900 miles away (maybe in even better contact now). Still going to events. Dont have all the static, drama, and bullshit weighing me down.
TheProtractor · 5 points · Posted at 19:10:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Do you use sms to send text messages? The only reason I still use fb is because it is hard to make the people I constantly chat with change the platform, I literally only use messenger.com and the messenger app.
BillsInATL · 1 points · Posted at 19:15:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I have a few good group texts going on my phone, and/or in Messages on my laptop (iphone and mac). I never used the messenger app to begin with, and definitely not after they split it off into its own thing, so not a big loss to me. But I thought I heard you could deactivate your FB profile and still use messenger.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:15:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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TheProtractor · 2 points · Posted at 20:03:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Where I live SMS texts are limited by the phone company unless you pay more to have an unlimited version of the plan. Sending SMS messages makes no sense financially.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:11:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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TheProtractor · 2 points · Posted at 21:26:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Mexico but I feel like it is the same for a lot of developing countries and that is way services like whatsapp are way more popular than in the US. Just with a quick look I found a data plan with 400 SMS per month and another one with unlimited SMS for the same price so I don't know what is the catch there. Sure 400 is a lot if you just want to use them to set up appointments and things like that but for general chit chat with friends they are not enough.
audiodormant · 2 points · Posted at 20:13:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
A lot of people also live in Europe where international phone rates make stuff like that costly.
Sayrians · 1 points · Posted at 22:41:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes that is the exact reason that WhatsApp is one of the most downloaded apps. SMS can be very costly as well as data, but WhatsApp can use very little amounts of data meaning you can text more people before running out.
Tbh here in the UK this problem doesn't really exist anymore but practically everyone I know uses WhatsApp or Facebook messengers. Never SMS.
TwiZtah · 1 points · Posted at 19:26:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Telegram is super simple, open source and AES-256 encryption
ChaseballBat · 2 points · Posted at 19:17:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm so confused when people say FB drama, I don't know how anyone could get involved in that. If someone is annoying me I cut their cord. But if you're happier without it I can't really judge!!
Reallychelseawow · 0 points · Posted at 19:13:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I had no idea Facebook owned WhatsApp. I thought that was one of my last private ways of communicating. So they review everything on there and use it for ads now too?? Ughhh
warb17 · 3 points · Posted at 19:44:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I recommend switching over to Signal if you don’t want to rely on Facebook’s property.
grokforpay · 2 points · Posted at 19:19:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook bought WhatsApp for $19B (BILLION!!). That is $350,000,000 per WhatsApp employee. It was big news.
Reallychelseawow · 1 points · Posted at 13:36:21 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Holy jeez
AP3Brain · 0 points · Posted at 19:31:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wtf is WhatsApp? Instagram is just pictures of food and models/wannabe models anyways.
BaronHarkonnen81 · 2 points · Posted at 20:09:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s strictly for chatting. You can send pics too if you wish. But you just find your friend and can text chat or do a WiFi phone call. It’s the best for friends in other countries.
eventully · -1 points · Posted at 20:12:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So stop caring about that totally pointless aspect of your life. You can be social without social media.
Rehabilitated86 · 215 points · Posted at 17:51:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Do you ever log off of Reddit? Jesus.
Weather · 97 points · Posted at 19:14:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You can log off?
I_am_the_inchworm · 9 points · Posted at 20:08:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You can log off, but you can never leave.
Electric_Evil · 4 points · Posted at 20:38:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
*wicked guitar solo*
Vydor · 1 points · Posted at 09:49:48 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/unexpectedhotelcalifornia
0saladin0 · 7 points · Posted at 19:58:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wh-where am I?
skyskr4per · 3 points · Posted at 20:28:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
S-senpai help
OxvFer0cdak · 3 points · Posted at 19:54:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
On a dark desert highway...
steve_n_doug_boutabi · 3 points · Posted at 19:49:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/outside
SumoSizeIt · 2 points · Posted at 20:19:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can't wait until they ban that one because of all the bad things that could happen outside.
prokachu · 1 points · Posted at 20:13:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Delete your reddit
jazir5 · 1 points · Posted at 20:29:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He's obviously joking. You can never really log off reddit
AberrantRambler · 241 points · Posted at 18:26:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's way more convenient to just stay logged in. Logging off would only really be useful if more than one person used my phone/computer.
Sky_Muffins · 20 points · Posted at 18:48:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Even then you can have different Chrome accounts and save them to your desktop as different icons.
GodOfPlutonium · 4 points · Posted at 19:27:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
or just use incognito for guests
justhad2login2reply · 8 points · Posted at 19:26:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I agree.
myusernameis2lon · 3 points · Posted at 20:02:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Username doesn't check out.
DONUTof_noFLAVOR · 6 points · Posted at 19:57:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I may be mistaken but I think that /u/Rehabilitated86 was referring to how this comment's OP consistently has top comments on posts on the front page of /r/all every day.
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 19:47:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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marqattack · 3 points · Posted at 00:00:38 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s also the same comment formula: a large quote in italics to improve visibility followed by a one sentence comment.
middlemix · 5 points · Posted at 20:21:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wow I looked at /u/TooShiftyForYou 's profile, so much there, holy moly. Comments a lot, wow
dhaos1020 · 2 points · Posted at 20:01:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I knew just by reading this comment who the Mother poster was.......
invalid_dictorian · 1 points · Posted at 20:10:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What's reddit?
DoverBoys · 1 points · Posted at 20:43:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Log off as in click logout and have to login later or close Reddit?
trucido614 · 0 points · Posted at 20:48:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit Jesus does not log off.
[deleted] · -18 points · Posted at 17:57:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah he’s a virgin
Djinger · 6 points · Posted at 18:59:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Said the virgin
supercooper3000 · 3 points · Posted at 20:32:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Said the other virgin.
Djinger · 2 points · Posted at 23:24:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Chimed in the fourth virgin
0saladin0 · -1 points · Posted at 20:59:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As the official representative of the Holy Jesus Christ: No, no he does not.
TroyAtWork · 8 points · Posted at 19:38:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Feigned ignorance is so obnoxious.
[deleted] · 435 points · Posted at 17:06:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The hypocrisy of Acton's tweet is amazing.
OnetB · 2201 points · Posted at 17:12:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who turns down $19,000,000,000 offer for an app?
PitchforkAssistant · 1120 points · Posted at 17:20:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hell, who here wouldn't accept $19,000,000 even if it comes from evil?
[deleted] · 1076 points · Posted at 17:21:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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PussyFriedNachos · 424 points · Posted at 17:25:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sounds like a challenge. We need a new Twitter campaign for this guy!
Hans_Brickface · 443 points · Posted at 17:28:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The spit bucket challenge.
[deleted] · 91 points · Posted at 17:47:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Jesus Christ Reddit?
hummingcancer · 132 points · Posted at 17:51:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Eh, I'd dirty my knees for $19,000,000 usd
Superpickle18 · 79 points · Posted at 18:02:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
$20 is $20.
werd608 · 3 points · Posted at 18:52:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And hand jobs and blow jobs are still jobs
Electric_Evil · 2 points · Posted at 20:21:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Trump did say he would bring jobs back to America, he just didn't specify which ones.
werd608 · 1 points · Posted at 21:00:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
These are in fact the best jobs
For the employer atleast
hummingcancer · 1 points · Posted at 18:18:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So they say
tootsie_rolex · 1 points · Posted at 19:09:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
who are they?
spell__icup · 1 points · Posted at 19:43:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well, the initial offer was for $19 Billion but I guess we could still get a Kickstarter going for the $20 you want to suck off every dick at Facebook
AerThreepwood · 3 points · Posted at 19:06:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd like to pretend I wouldn't do it but I ate ramen all this week to avoid touching my savings because financial emergencies have pretty much tapped me out after the last 8 months, so I probably would.
BombThaReef · 18 points · Posted at 17:59:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You missed another ,000
*19,000,000,000
FTFY
Droolings · 5 points · Posted at 18:04:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd dirty my knees for $19
Hans_Brickface · 2 points · Posted at 18:39:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
$19 - the 'all you can skeet' special.
spell__icup · 1 points · Posted at 19:44:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Alright so you just beat out the guy offering $20 by $1. Someone watches price is right
Geler · 2 points · Posted at 19:44:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Read the comments chain, at this point we're talking about 19 millions.
hummingcancer · 1 points · Posted at 18:18:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Either or
isayimnothere · 2 points · Posted at 19:25:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Heck I'd do it for $450,000. Retire after one day? yes please.
SchroederWV · 2 points · Posted at 20:12:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
250k would have the business I'm trying to start in fine standing :/ gotta do whatcha gotta do lol
isayimnothere · 2 points · Posted at 20:41:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I am actually curious at what point I would turn it down. Like stick the cash in front of me on a table. I'm not really sure what amount would be too low... $100,000? Shaves almost 10 years off my retirement... If it were in front of me I'd probably do it. $1,000? Heck no. I'm really not sure where my line is.
SchroederWV · 2 points · Posted at 20:54:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've spent many a nights wondering the same thing lol. I'm 20 years old, 250k at my age would be a godsend financially, 100k is what I feel would be my shut off
A_Slovakian · 1 points · Posted at 04:48:36 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Honestly, you're crazy if wouldn't. $19,000,000 is an incredibly ridiculous amount of money. Fucking hell there's almost nothing I wouldn't do for a million dollars
Hans_Brickface · 24 points · Posted at 17:54:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
On a semi-related note ...
Several years ago, there were articles in the tech blogosphere blaming carriers for the lack of Android updates, and I made the point that Apple didn't have that problem, and if Steve Jobs had to suck the cock of every corporate exec of the major cell providers to solve that problem, Larry Page (then Google CEO) should be at their front door with a spit bucket. And then I started to see articles about him having throat problems, so perhaps he gave it an honest attempt ...
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:31:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
TIL: Cancer was not what killed Steve Jobs. It was a cover for the injuries sustained from copious amounts of fellatio.
Pennwisedom · 1 points · Posted at 19:58:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It was just cancer due to oral sex.
JesusDiedForOurSkins · 4 points · Posted at 18:45:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Jesus didn't die for nothing.
derpaperdhapley · 0 points · Posted at 19:34:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not even close.
Aurora_Fatalis · 7 points · Posted at 17:53:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/aFewRedditorsOneBucket
stalactose · 3 points · Posted at 18:53:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm sorry for 19 milly no spitting
kia176 · 1 points · Posted at 18:59:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're a god.
doublsh0t · 1 points · Posted at 19:07:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
sold, someone start the gofundme
SushiGato · 1 points · Posted at 19:43:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No. For that cash it needs to be the swallow challenge
GhostWthTheMost · 1 points · Posted at 21:09:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Does he have to fill the bucket?
mcketten · 1 points · Posted at 18:22:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
For that much, they can swallow.
EDIT: I wonder what the odds are that a very similar quote will come from one of the cases against Trump?
ohlookahipster · 24 points · Posted at 18:19:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Succ the Zucc
stalactose · 1 points · Posted at 18:53:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/nocontext
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 18:46:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I do it for $18,999,999.
Lev_Astov · 1 points · Posted at 18:28:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hey, we found a Facebook employee! Get him!
notosboob · 1 points · Posted at 18:34:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You'll only do it if you're the man
purplentacles · 1 points · Posted at 18:49:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You that cop from Chicago?
What’s up?
cruelned · 1 points · Posted at 18:57:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I want in too.
cat-ninja · 89 points · Posted at 17:29:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We're going to need the Pied Piper team to come in and do the math on this.
ASK47 · 22 points · Posted at 18:27:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So you see a sexually provocative comment and all of a sudden it's mean jerk time?
cat-ninja · 35 points · Posted at 18:40:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Actually I’m part of an unofficial unaffiliated unpaid marketing team and advertising that the hit comedy Silicon Valley is returning for its 5th season this Sunday at 9pm ET on HBO. Sign up for your free trial of HBO NOW to watch the season premiere!
baconbrand · 4 points · Posted at 19:12:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I... don't know what to do with this.
cat-ninja · 5 points · Posted at 19:22:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’m just a struggling marketing account manager in between jobs and I was hoping this would get me exposure. My rates are reasonable if you need help promoting your bacon brand.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:27:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Regardless, that show is awesome.
ssor21 · 2 points · Posted at 21:11:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wait, no shit, you actually just informed me about this. I had no clue. Thank... you?
cat-ninja · 1 points · Posted at 21:24:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
HBO, give me free stuff.
dissenter_the_dragon · 1 points · Posted at 19:44:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'll give a mean jerk for 19b
ASK47 · 1 points · Posted at 20:22:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Mean jerk time" for best ambiguous sexual innuendo of 2017.
Penqwin · 1 points · Posted at 19:30:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes the jerk ratio needs to be calculated
MercuryDrop · 0 points · Posted at 20:06:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep, we'll use the middle out algorithm to minimise the time taken to jerk off every guy in Facebook!
Snidgetless · 44 points · Posted at 17:51:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That’s a lot of cocks... i don’t think you’ve given this much thought. You would be much more efficient just jerking everyone off. I bet you don’t even know what your Mean Jerk Rate is? Have you given thought to shaft ratio’s or optimum tip to tip efficiency? I doubt it... If your offer is indeed serious, here is a well written study for maxim jerking efficiency. I’m not sure on your height and size, so its a little tough knowing your D2F, or dick to floor ratio... but its a start. https://www.scribd.com/doc/228831637/Optimal-Tip-to-Tip-Efficiency#
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 18:39:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wow someone saw Silicon Valley on a post about Elon musk. how original and amazing /s
phokas · -1 points · Posted at 18:21:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
MJR. I like it.
[deleted] · 71 points · Posted at 18:16:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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allesfliesst · 93 points · Posted at 18:32:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
19 BILLION
So over a million per dick sucked.
But hell even for 19 million I'd make sure everyone enjoys it.
pm_me_tits_and_tats · 10 points · Posted at 19:03:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Rn, I’d probably do it for $1900. 🤷🏾♂️
eradication_bot · 8 points · Posted at 19:46:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's like $0.13 per dick if we're going off the 15,000 employee estimate for Menlo Park alone. Factor in time it takes to complete each (say 5-10 minutes), you're looking at $0.78—$1.56 an hour. Just not worth it.
commander_egg · 10 points · Posted at 19:48:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you love what you do...
LenTheGr8 · 5 points · Posted at 18:42:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tres comas
aPirateNamedBeef · 28 points · Posted at 18:28:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
19 Billion. That makes it 1,267,000 each.
2fucktard2remember · 15 points · Posted at 18:53:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fuck it. Line up their dicks and bring me to them. I'd suck them for that much.
JamesTrendall · 2 points · Posted at 19:00:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'll fondle the balls if we can split it. 70/10 sound good to you?
MrBojangles528 · 1 points · Posted at 22:09:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'll give each employee a punch card for ten free blowies with no expiration date for that much. Hit me up in 40 years and I'll still work that shaft.
repressiveanger · 3 points · Posted at 19:17:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's the comment the guy who offered to suck off everyone at facebook replied to. While the intent may have been billion, million was most definitely used.
wibblett · 45 points · Posted at 18:18:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not every employee would accept but still 19 million for 50 days of work? Where do I sign up
sold_snek · 21 points · Posted at 18:24:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
For $19M I'd only work half time and take 100 days.
OriginalName317 · 2 points · Posted at 19:03:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'll just visit when the house payment's due, thank you very much.
Armani_Chode · 1 points · Posted at 19:20:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Trust me, work double time and get it over ASAP.
Syrdon · 1 points · Posted at 19:21:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Pretty sure he means 1200ish hours. So like half a year of working days. Most of a year of regular work weeks.
Still not a bad option.
Edit: actually, 150 working days is a smidge more than 200 calendar days. Whatever 140% of 150 is. You still get several months of vacation time.
Electric_Evil · 1 points · Posted at 20:27:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Menlo Park, apparently.
Stupid_Triangles · -1 points · Posted at 18:55:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You would go down in history forever as "that person who sucked dick for 50 days when they could've just built a cool app or invested in bitcoin."
[deleted] · 14 points · Posted at 18:40:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah I’m going to go on a limb and assume you make 0$ per BJ. So you shitting on 1267 a blow is laughable.
saadcee · 8 points · Posted at 18:30:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It was 19 BILLION.
alsaway · 3 points · Posted at 18:48:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wouldn't it be around 7500? Assuming 50% gender split, half the FB population wouldn't have a dick to be sucked
LaVernWinston · 1 points · Posted at 19:07:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It would be even more than that. The amount is 19 billion, not million. So more than a mil for each suck, even without a gender split.
DeceiverX · 2 points · Posted at 19:28:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That assumes all 15000 are people with penises. The software world may be male-dominated, but there's a ton of business-side things which have pretty equal representation.
I worked at a similarly-sized tech company and females were around 30% of the workforce, so we're already down 5000 dicks.
Plus, that hasn't factored in the people who may not want to be sucked off. Dudes who are happily married and getting some at home probably not gonna take that offer.
At the end of the day there's probably only a few thousand who'd realistically take the offer, so it'd probably only take a week or two.
For 19 billion, that's like a 5 million dollar bj per person. You'd better believe I'd do it.
ratshack · 1 points · Posted at 00:46:25 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
so you tongue punch a few queef boxes, problem solved.
also, that is the worst sentence I have created this year.
FlowersOfSin · 1 points · Posted at 18:49:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He did specify "at the HQ". I don't really know their business, but I'm pretty certain that those 15000 employees are not all in the same office.
Djinger · 1 points · Posted at 18:58:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The campus is large and expanding. 6 of the businesses I work for in the immediate surrounding area are either looking to move as their lease won't be renewed (by Facebook, who purchased the properties), or have already moved and the old building demolished and new ones in its place. I would not be surprised if the number of employees at that campus range at least somewhere near 15k
FlowersOfSin · 1 points · Posted at 19:30:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh alright. That's crazy then, because that's more people than the town I grew up in!
Djinger · 1 points · Posted at 23:32:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The Bay Area overall (within what could be called "commuting distance"...my commute can take 2 hours, one way, to travel 30 miles.) is home to ~7.68 million individuals. 17k only accounts for 0.2% of that.
FlowersOfSin · 1 points · Posted at 14:21:38 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh, I know that. I might come from a small town but I now live in a big city. Still, I worked for multiple big companies over the years and they usually had 2000 people in one office max, but had multiple offices. Having 15000 employees in one area is a lot of people!
BGYeti · 1 points · Posted at 18:55:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
19B for 50 days of sucking is not that high of a price
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:58:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can we just suck off like 2 or 3 of them? I got some bills to pay.
owen__wilsons__nose · 1 points · Posted at 19:00:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/theydidthemath
ThePickleWizard · 1 points · Posted at 19:12:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/u/wibblett doesn't come off as a spitter to me. So you would have to factor in the grocery savings over that 50 day period.
wranglingmonkies · 1 points · Posted at 19:14:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Plus they aren't all male... So there's that
savagepanda · 1 points · Posted at 19:15:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
women take much longer then men. Also considering the age distribution of the employees. I'd say 30 minutes is a better estimate. So that raises the completion to 1 year.
Now if you could use those industrial cow milking machines, you could be in business..
NvizoN · 5 points · Posted at 17:48:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, that's a no brainer. 19 billion would get me to do a lot of things lol
jabba_the_bot · 10 points · Posted at 18:20:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In a row?
DanielR85 · 3 points · Posted at 18:28:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And they snowball, too.
0hnoesazombie · 3 points · Posted at 19:15:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Of course in a row. Line them up. On a job that big, it's best to be efficient. Then I'll try not to suck any more on the way to the parking lot.
jabba_the_bot · 3 points · Posted at 19:39:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Man that is some work ethics you got there! To think that you were not even supposed to be working today.
0hnoesazombie · 1 points · Posted at 20:06:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I assure you, I'm open. ;)
jamboparty · 2 points · Posted at 19:01:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hey, try not to suck any dick on the way to the parking lot!!
Electric_Evil · 2 points · Posted at 20:30:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hey, hey you get back here!
wibblett · 2 points · Posted at 18:20:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Line em up!
bheal · 1 points · Posted at 18:52:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes. Next question?
LeicaM6guy · 1 points · Posted at 18:27:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s important to have solid life goals.
alexpistols · 1 points · Posted at 18:47:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you were a real man , you would do it for free.
likeabosstroll · 1 points · Posted at 18:48:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hell, I'd suck off everyone at Facebook HQ for less
chailer · 1 points · Posted at 18:48:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Will do, to preserve man status.
swordhand · 1 points · Posted at 18:48:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah but how long will it take? Are we talking about just guys?
ConsumingClouds · 1 points · Posted at 18:52:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ill don’t for half as much
DontDoItMom · 1 points · Posted at 18:54:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
have you done the calculation? it might take a while
R_E_V_A_N · 1 points · Posted at 18:56:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"There's a difference between queering off and gettin your needs met on the road."
Mail540 · 1 points · Posted at 18:57:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And I'll make it look like I enjoyed it too
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:58:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd do it for $1mil.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:59:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
this episode sounds very familiar
TheTurnipKnight · 1 points · Posted at 19:02:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Even everyone in Silicon Valley.
UncoolSlicedBread · 1 points · Posted at 19:02:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wonder how that breaks down to an hourly rate?
mrflippant · 1 points · Posted at 19:03:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let me ask you something: Do you know how long it would take for you to jerk off every guy here? 'Cause I know how long it would take me; and I can prove it.
Ben_zyl · 1 points · Posted at 19:07:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's about 16,000 cocks but Menlo Park is expanding by about 9,500 soon so if you don't get a 'head' start it might take more than that based on the world record (288/14 hours) and doing double shifts (8 hours a day off though) but working weekends.
TrepanationBy45 · 1 points · Posted at 19:08:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, there's pretty good odds that at least a fair portion of suckoffs wouldn't be a bad experience, right?
Armani_Chode · 1 points · Posted at 19:17:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Everyone that works there or everyone that can get there before you finish?
cotterz · 1 points · Posted at 19:28:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'll cradle the balls, stroke the shaft, work the pipe, and swallow the gravy.
AsAGayGuy · 1 points · Posted at 19:29:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Uh yeah haha me too!
WolfCola4 · 1 points · Posted at 19:33:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
LPT: The longer the dick, the greater the D2F bridge
ImEnhanced · 1 points · Posted at 19:36:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hey its me your Facebook at HQ
Mattabeedeez · 1 points · Posted at 19:44:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
At the same time or by the ones? To climax?
tludwins539 · 1 points · Posted at 19:44:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you did every Facebook employee it'd come out to about $757/person. This is for all employees, male/female/otherwise.
wibblett · 1 points · Posted at 19:48:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
With my skills that $757 per 3 minutes. That's a lot of monies
throwaway_ghast · 1 points · Posted at 22:14:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
For even half that, I'd suck everyone at Facebook HQ off, plus their grandmas.
Steven_is_a_fat_ass · 1 points · Posted at 17:26:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Send that to your grandma on facebook and see if it gets removed.
revankillsmalak · 1 points · Posted at 17:38:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lawyer up
wibblett · 9 points · Posted at 17:48:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'll suck off my lawyer too
Pandamonius84 · 2 points · Posted at 18:32:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's required usually.
panopticon777 · 1 points · Posted at 18:33:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And that is how you get herpes and HPV.
koshgeo · 1 points · Posted at 19:03:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's not what they mean by "attorney-client privilege"!
Electric_Evil · 1 points · Posted at 20:31:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don't forget to suck off the gym.
Sendmedickpix1 · 30 points · Posted at 18:30:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who here wouldn't accept 40k a year to work for people you hate for the next 40 years, doing shit you don't really wanna do? for hours you'll never get back? ..... Oh, wait...
[deleted] · 10 points · Posted at 18:59:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook probably pays most employees more than 40k a year.
Chilluminaughty · 2 points · Posted at 20:43:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My grandson has a Instantgram picture and makes 6k figures working at the pizza place with balloons.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:08:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/oldpeoplefacebook is leaking
Sendmedickpix1 · 2 points · Posted at 19:02:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
10/20k more a year likely, but it's also likely eating your soul. The majority of us sell off for far less, and for decades of our lives.
Newatcher · 4 points · Posted at 19:40:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Idk about other positions but software engineers at fb can clear $200k-250k pretty easily
Ryanfromda808 · 2 points · Posted at 20:11:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
HA, thats only for senior devs/management. It usually ranges 80-150k.
Newatcher · 1 points · Posted at 20:30:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Salary sure, total comp is closer to my numbers.
Kokosnussi · -2 points · Posted at 18:43:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
40k? Not worth it if you're miserable
[deleted] · 12 points · Posted at 18:54:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Kokosnussi · 0 points · Posted at 08:05:12 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Maybe it is. I don't have experience in that.
confused_gypsy · 11 points · Posted at 18:59:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Spoken like someone who doesn't know what it is like to be without work and struggling to survive.
niuguy · -2 points · Posted at 19:19:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
plays air violin
confused_gypsy · 0 points · Posted at 20:07:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why would anybody care what a child has to say about it?
Kokosnussi · 0 points · Posted at 09:12:19 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Get off your high horse you bitter old man
confused_gypsy · 1 points · Posted at 15:40:39 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Go back to playing with your toys child.
Kokosnussi · 1 points · Posted at 16:47:34 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
"I call people kids because they make more money than me" if you want some toys I can send you some
confused_gypsy · 1 points · Posted at 16:51:16 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
"I call people bitter old men because they have empathy for people who are struggling in life."
Maybe try not acting like a 15 year old if you don't want people to think you are a child next time.
Kokosnussi · 0 points · Posted at 17:26:46 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I called you bitter old man because you call everyone a kid. You also interpret a lot into me saying I wouldn't work for 40k a year if it made me miserable.
confused_gypsy · 1 points · Posted at 17:35:52 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
No idea what you are talking about. The only thing I interpreted about you is that you act like a child. Please try and keep in my mind that you came to the comment you came to defense of was
You can't get anymore childish than literal playground humor and yet you felt the need to defend it. So no, I don't call everyone a child, just the ones who act like it. Like you for example.
Sendmedickpix1 · 5 points · Posted at 19:01:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
40k is barely enough to survive, and do it well. I'm just commenting on how we'll devote our lives to 40k a year, while these people are talking like they wouldn't do something for millions, yet likely working for far less, doing something for far longer.
TheOutlawofLochLene · 1 points · Posted at 19:41:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
40k is barely enough to survive
[the world's tiniest violin]
Sendmedickpix1 · 1 points · Posted at 19:42:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm not complaining.
PixelPantsAshli · 22 points · Posted at 17:22:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I would accept it and then use it to counteract said evil.
At least, I like to think I would.
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 18:52:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Mad_Maddin · 2 points · Posted at 19:05:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd use it to do evil stuff. Dunno what kind of stuff but evil stuff.
DonteFinale · 4 points · Posted at 18:38:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That amount of money would be hard to come by from non-evil sources.
Zerole00 · 6 points · Posted at 17:59:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd accept that $19B and use it to become an evil bigger evil
Levitlame · 3 points · Posted at 19:11:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's $19M. Not enough to out-evil Facebook. That's for sure.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:16:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There isn't much I wouldn't do for $19,000.
AintNoHoInMyDNA · 1 points · Posted at 19:32:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
1,900 and everyone gets at least a handy
AgroTGB · 2 points · Posted at 19:21:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Accept the 19,000,000, donate half of that to charity. Youre still rich as fuck and made an insane amount of "good" too.
Mizarrk · 2 points · Posted at 19:32:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Bro I would stomp on 19,000,000 puppies for $19,000,000
ConfirmPassword · 2 points · Posted at 19:54:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hell, I'd sell my soul for half that.
MARZalmighty · 2 points · Posted at 20:37:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Give me $190,000 and I'll suck a dick.
week52 · 1 points · Posted at 18:25:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd settle for 500 million from not evil
KeijiKiryira · 1 points · Posted at 18:51:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Did you pocket the rest of it?
CaptainEarlobe · 1 points · Posted at 18:52:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I will take your evil $19m
Stupid_Triangles · 1 points · Posted at 18:54:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I would take $190,000
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:57:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Id take 20 bucks from evil. Idgaf where it comes from, im broke as hell!
Frigorific · 1 points · Posted at 19:39:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If he turned it down they would have just cloned his software feature in Facebook and he would have lost a lot of money. See what happened to the companies that turned down these offers.
odraencoded · 1 points · Posted at 20:36:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't even need all those zeroes.
micdeath · 1 points · Posted at 20:41:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Evil? What's that? Is it tasty? Sorry I can't be bothered when I am swimming in my pool of TEARS when I have to pay the government little over 10bill in taxes.
ShrimpCrackers · 1 points · Posted at 01:58:02 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Dude, back in college I'd say, "$20 is $20. Wait your turn though. Long line for theses lips."
silentraven127 · 1 points · Posted at 19:08:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is it evil? You just stole $19 million from the villain himself. Sounds chaotic good to me.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:21:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Depends how evil. Trump or Clinton, yeah I'm on it. Putin or El Chapo.... I'll pass
username9k · 0 points · Posted at 18:48:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Dude, that money could come out of Hitler's asshole in liquefied form and I would cash in on it. $19B for a freaking message app? Insane.
whatevers_clever · 0 points · Posted at 18:59:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Hello PitchforkAssistant. We would like to instill you in our latest proxy war as the next Hitler. For your contributions we will give you $19billion"
I mean.. I'd say no but you do you
94fa699d · 0 points · Posted at 19:01:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
please stop appropriating american culture
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:05:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Depends what I have to do for it. There's a lot I'd do, but compromise my morals? No.
For example: Wouldn't kill a non-livestock non-insect/bug/creepy crawley. Wouldn't commit a crime that the $19m wouldn't be able to fix pretty much immediately after. etc.
_RarkGrames_ · 79 points · Posted at 17:25:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That is "start your own country" money.
firstprincipals · 9 points · Posted at 18:57:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It really is.
More than the annual GDP of most African nations.
10x the annual GDP of Belize.
Pariahdog119 · 3 points · Posted at 18:55:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
someone tell Liberland they need to sell an app to Facebook
sorenant · 0 points · Posted at 19:11:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've heard they don't deal with money to avoid inequality.
kayonesoft · 313 points · Posted at 17:47:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"I'd really like to accept your $19billion, but my sense of pride demands I not be a future hypocrite. "
-Nobody
alex891011 · 43 points · Posted at 18:54:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nonono but all these hardos on reddit claim they’d turn it down! I believe them!
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 18:55:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Geler · 3 points · Posted at 19:45:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The sense of accomplishment is fine with the 19 billions, only pride would have a word agaisnt it.
rihardn · 1 points · Posted at 20:18:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Exactly. With that money one could, hypothetically, make a lot of people disappear. Hypothetically of course. Edit: phrasing
barukatang · 1 points · Posted at 21:46:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
thats a real Ned Stark move
Investigate_311_ · 1 points · Posted at 02:30:43 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
He got his head cut off
kuzuboshii · 1 points · Posted at 18:54:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh a few of those people exist, but you will never head about them.
baequon · 10 points · Posted at 19:02:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who turns down 19,000,000,000 for literally anything?
Vigilante17 · 2 points · Posted at 19:46:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yahoo has turned down bigger offers.
Back in 2008, Microsoft, one of the world's biggest technology companies, made an audacious $45 billion ($31 per share) bid to buy Yahoo.
Gbiknel · 2 points · Posted at 19:38:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Snapchat declined $3b from FB and then 3 years later declined $30b from Google...so Snapchat.
SergeiBizet · 1 points · Posted at 18:50:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wouldnt turn it down, but I'd still be a hypocrite cunt. Like complaining about people not getting taxed enough then getting a huge opportunity to avoid paying tons of taxes and going for it. Many would do it and all would be cunts for it.
99ized · 2 points · Posted at 19:07:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
'im not usually an asshole, but 19 billion is 19 billion'
i would do the same tbh i aint a saint
Number90IsNumber1 · 1 points · Posted at 19:00:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
14 of that 19 was in Facebook stock, which is/was overvalued. Only ~4billion was actual cash. Yes, that's still a lot, but it's much less than 19
2mnykitehs · 5 points · Posted at 19:32:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook stock is worth twice what it was when Whatsapp sold. That's not a bad return for 3.5 years.
Phifty56 · -4 points · Posted at 18:16:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You can take the money, or you can be self-righteous.
You can't do both.
jacxy · 13 points · Posted at 18:53:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Since they completed their business arrangement years ago, I'd beg to disagree.
GruePwnr · 5 points · Posted at 18:53:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you really hated Facebook you would take their money and then tell everyone to stop using their products.
Codeshark · 2 points · Posted at 19:31:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fuck you, he's a billionaire. Respect your betters, peasant.
JB_UK · 329 points · Posted at 17:14:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Whatsapp introduced end to end encryption for the contents of messages, and promises were made by Facebook at the time of the acquisition of Whatsapp about metadata, which were subsequently broken. It's not as hypocritical as it sounds.
cruyfff · 24 points · Posted at 19:20:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah I don't get why everyone's jumping down the throat of the whatsapp guy for facebook's transgressions. It really does show what a tl;dr era we are in, no one wants to give a story a moment's thought, they just want to point at the bad guy and call it a day.
daymanAAaah · 40 points · Posted at 18:53:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What a surprise.
KimJongUnsDick · 5 points · Posted at 19:32:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What promise did they make?
PushYourPacket · 5 points · Posted at 19:27:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just use Signal instead... It's what the WhatsApp encryption was built utilizing, so why not use the open source product directly instead?
KimJongUnsDick · 10 points · Posted at 19:33:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As much as I want to use Signal, none of my friends uses it.
PushYourPacket · 5 points · Posted at 19:36:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It replaces standard texting. I have zero issues texting with friends who don't use it.
mrhindustan · 1 points · Posted at 02:37:39 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I told all my WA family to use either iMessage or Signal. I am quitting WA. It’s the only FB app I use.
I should probably sell the shares I own too.
[deleted] · 258 points · Posted at 18:14:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's not hypocritical if you change your mind about something 5 years later. That isn't what hypocritical means.
bheal · 134 points · Posted at 18:55:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've always hated the idea that changing your mind about something is a cardinal sin in politics. Times change, people change. Society evolves. We should never cement ourselves to anything so strongly that we no longer strive to improve.
HowTheyGetcha · 21 points · Posted at 19:19:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Obama was publically against gay marriage until 2012. It's a good thing that views evolve.
dannyr_wwe · 7 points · Posted at 19:38:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Similar for Hillary. Except Obama had the apparent humility to be honest about his mind changing and why, and I don’t know why Hillary couldn’t. I understand that it is a sign of weakness to some, but I’d rather have a few knowledgeable followers than ignorant adoration of many. Maybe that’s why I’m not in politics. Still, Obama seemed to do it the right way.
tadayou · 5 points · Posted at 21:10:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I thought Hillary did explain her stance, though? The issue wasn't as much on the public mind in the 90's and it also wasn't a 'sexy' political issue that you could use to set yourself apart from other politicians. It took her and her husband (as well as Obama) a while to realize how important the issue was for gay people and how much of an inequality it represented. I remember her saying as much in interviews.
There was also a real risk that trying to introduce gay marriage too early could have made it even harder to achieve that goal, because it could have led to an actual constitutional ban on gay marriage.
dannyr_wwe · 3 points · Posted at 21:26:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That would be fine if she was merely silent on the issue. Instead, there are 10 minute compilations on YouTube of her saying over and over again throughout the years that marriage is with a man and a woman. She even made an infamous appearance on NPR’s “Fresh Air” where she took the question of “Why did you change your mind on gay marriage?” as a personal attack. She could clarify the question before answering the why, but instead she dug her heels in as if she had never said or believed that marriage was between a man and a woman. It was just bizarre.
HowTheyGetcha · 0 points · Posted at 00:05:58 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ah, there's your problem: getting your news from the pseudojournalistic side of YT. You can't trust they're preserving context and giving it to you straight. Clinton was always pro-gay and fought hard for equality up to but not including recognized marriage (rather, "civil unions"). She was in the company of the majority of Americans as her views evolved.
June 2014: Terry Gross: "Would you say your view evolved since the '90s or that the American public evolved, allowing you to state your real view?" Clinton: "I think I'm an American. (Laughing) And I think we have all evolved, and it's been one of the fastest, most sweeping transformations."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/17/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-change-position-same-sex-marriage/
dannyr_wwe · 3 points · Posted at 19:32:54 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I will say that this did soften some of the edges, but there is still no explanation of her change in position except the people changed. The generous way to say it is that she was doing what the people wanted. The worse way to say it is that she was only doing what was being politically expedient. I'd rather have a leader and a visionary than a poll-taker, otherwise why not go to straight democracy? Her support for civil unions helps, but that only started in about 2000.
Either way, thanks for the source. It could do without the accusations of a diverse media diet. I wanted to find these sources, but even this one is not compelling for the reason stated above. She was not a leader on this issue.
HowTheyGetcha · 1 points · Posted at 22:33:25 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Like Clinton said, that you're kinda glossing over: the entire nation went through the same evolution. I can't understand why you're being so hard on Clinton; there is a clear and consistent timeline of her evolution. As you see, she's had a pro-lgbt stance for a long time; it was the one issue - marriage vs. civil unions - that she got hung up on but eventually relented. I'm 100% sure there were plenty of liberals who themselves were unsure about gay marriage. It seems so innocuous now, maybe it's just hard for us to understand why they struggled with it at all. I mean Obama wasn't pro-gay marriage until 2012, and he was the president.
dannyr_wwe · 2 points · Posted at 22:35:33 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’m not glossing over it. I’m saying that’s fine, but she wasn’t a leader on that issue.
Lacinl · 4 points · Posted at 19:23:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There's changing your mind and there's saying whatever the voters want to hear. The first is fine, the second means you can't trust if they'll actually follow through on their words or instead do what they actually think once in power. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between the 2 based on context since everyone claims it's the first option.
That being said, it is true that some people make a mountain out of a mole hill when trying to discredit people.
dannyr_wwe · 4 points · Posted at 19:40:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
True, but that’s the job of journalists to dig and ask the follow up questions of why they changed their minds. That allows us to see if their explanation passes the sniff test. Without it we should have no reason to believe their position.
amicaze · 1 points · Posted at 22:56:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, it's called demagogy, and despite what Trump's supporters would want you to think, it's everything but a quality in politics.
bheal · 0 points · Posted at 19:26:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And hence you have described the difference between, say, Clinton's views on gays, and Trump's mercurial stance on... basically anything.
GaryOaksAlcoholism · 2 points · Posted at 19:38:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've been thinking that "sincerity" is amazingly rare anymore and it's probably one of my biggest complaints about Trump. It always feels insulting to talk or listen to people who are insincere. How dumb do they think other people are? (Don't answer that pls)
bheal · 2 points · Posted at 19:44:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've been told I can be condescending at times, which I think is close to the opposite of sincere. I've made a concerted effort to change my behaviour, but I'm not always successful.
I can state from personal experience that people do respond quite differently when you are sincere in your opinions. Catching flies with honey instead of vinegar, I suppose.
Hawke666 · 1 points · Posted at 22:53:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But…vinegar is more effective!
MARZalmighty · 2 points · Posted at 20:38:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Except when you campaign on a platform and change immediately after the election.
bheal · 1 points · Posted at 20:43:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Didn't work out for them either. I agree with you there. If you're going to make something a core tenet of your platform, you need one hell of a compelling argument to change your mind and then have your supporters accept that justification.
So-Called_Lunatic · 1 points · Posted at 19:10:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You can blame Karl Rove for that one.
bheal · 2 points · Posted at 19:15:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As much as I hate most of what Rove did, I don't think any one person can be blamed for this trend. It's been a long time coming, and the premise has existed for as long as humans have.
We are by nature resistant to change, hesitant to violate our comfort. It is simple reflex to want to protect the status quo, and much like bad habits, it is something we need be cognizant of so that we can override the feeling when needed.
So-Called_Lunatic · 1 points · Posted at 19:18:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The term "Flip Flopper" became huge in the '04 election though. I'm sure it was done before that, but he made it the biggest focal point of that election. It's been a trend ever since.
bheal · 5 points · Posted at 19:22:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip-flop_(politics)
It's as old as politics, truthfully. =)
kinakomochidayo · 1 points · Posted at 19:44:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So maybe they should voice that change outright and talk about what made them change their mind.
bheal · 1 points · Posted at 19:46:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That would be refreshing, I hope to see that happen in our society. Increasingly people seem to be retreating into their safe spaces (on both sides, mind) and discounting any change as anathema.
trowawufei · 1 points · Posted at 20:33:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep. Trump-style flip flops, where you will change positions multiple times in the span of a few weeks/months, well obviously that's bad. If someone had the same positions their whole career, though, that would scare me quite a bit. Sounds like a fanatic who doesn't really listen to counterarguments.
Kashmir33 · 4 points · Posted at 19:01:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
For real. It'd be hypocritical if in his next tweet he advertised his new company that gives out userdata to everyone that asked .
motonaut · 2 points · Posted at 19:37:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The dude didn’t even change his mind, he sold the company and is talking shit on the new owners.
BlackDave0490 · 52 points · Posted at 18:38:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
of course, because you're not allowed to take in new information or change your mind years after you did something. He's precisely the sort of person that should be speaking up on this
Kittens4Brunch · 28 points · Posted at 17:51:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How so?
SwoleFlex_MuscleNeck · 26 points · Posted at 18:17:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not really. He sold the shit.
BGYeti · 13 points · Posted at 18:53:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not really the Facebook debacle happened years after the purchase just because Facebook bought his app doesn't mean years later he cant have an issue with their business practices
Caelinus · 2 points · Posted at 19:13:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No! Nuance is not allowed! No one can change their mind, and everyone is exactly the same person they were 5 years ago! /s
That stuff in the political sphere has always confused me. Not only do people bring up stuff people said 20 years ago to discredit their current belief system, but then the politicians often seem to try and dissemble or misdirect from it, instead of just saying "Yes, I did say that, but know I know ________, which caused me to change my mind."
Rawrburr · 6 points · Posted at 18:43:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
While I'm not certain Action is really a hypocrite here but I know I'd probably do a lot worse than go against something I believe for 19 billion dollars.
DaleLaTrend · 2 points · Posted at 19:04:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How much of the stock did he personally own?
Caelinus · 1 points · Posted at 19:14:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Enough to make him a billionaire, as per the article.
Okichah · 2 points · Posted at 18:53:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Its hard to blame people for selling out.
If you dont sell out then FaceBook invests that $19B into a competing app and you risk ending up with $0.
Tom_Zarek · 2 points · Posted at 18:04:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's not hypocrisy if you yell "Sucker"
das2121 · 1 points · Posted at 18:55:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’m assuming you are telling he’s a hypocrite for selling to fb. Founders are rarely in control of when a company sells. For instance, acton is a cofounder, with multiple rounds of investors, at best he could have 25% say in a decision to sell.
Jinno · 1 points · Posted at 18:59:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You don’t do a lot of due diligence on the company buying you when you’re looking for a highest bidder exit strategy.
Battleharden · 1 points · Posted at 19:00:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Think of it as a power move. He got Facebook to give him 19 billion and then he still talks shit about them. Seems good to me. Maybe even put some of that money towards anti Facebook shit.
textposts_only · 1 points · Posted at 19:01:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
oh come on. I would sell my firstborn for that kind of money.
HumunculiTzu · 1 points · Posted at 19:04:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not really, he made the best of the situation. Do you know what would of happened had he not sold? Facebook would of made their own clone and essentially drive Whatsapp out of business.
esipmac · 1 points · Posted at 19:11:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
plus what is the 19 billion in? I'm sure it's not briefcases of cash. If i had to guess, it's mostly stakes in facebook.
varukasalt · 1 points · Posted at 19:12:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Except it's not at all.
arsentis · 1 points · Posted at 19:16:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd gladly be called a hypocrite in exchange for 19b
AmericasNextDankMeme · 1 points · Posted at 19:16:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just wait til you hear about John McAfee
IAmNotOnRedditAtWork · 1 points · Posted at 19:30:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Your lack of understanding of the meaning of the word hypocrisy is amazing.
MasterDefibrillator · 1 points · Posted at 01:18:19 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hypocrisy is to hold two seemingly contradictory positions at once. Hypocrisy is not, changing your position over time. It seems very likely that he has just changed his position over time, seeing as a lot of stuff has happened to Facebook and whats app since he sold it. Including him choosing to leave the what's app dev team after it was going in directions he didn't like.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:04:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Eh, is it though? He sold his company and made a decent amount of money.
Reminds me of when someone buys a painting for like 100 million. People say, "what a waste! That money could have been used in charities. The buyer is selfish."
They basically forget that the seller can just as well do the same, but no one bats an eye. He got his, so let him be.
I mean, the whole argument is absolutely ridiculous. But you see my point.
everandom123 · 0 points · Posted at 18:51:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What hypocrisy? He sold an app that someone would've made anyways, for ridiculous money, and then shit on the buyer. That's some next level alpha
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 18:57:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Eh. He made out with 19B and then turned around and started attacking his buyer. Not necessarily a bad thing. He took 19B from Facebook and now he's helping to dismantle them even more. Kind of hilarious if you ask me.
mindscale · 2 points · Posted at 18:25:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
fuck yeah
Feroshnikop · 11146 points · Posted at 17:22:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This whole social media thing is hilarious.
It's like musical chairs of social media with everyone leaving one site for another.. except the same few companies still own all the chairs.
unlock0 · 560 points · Posted at 18:27:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Each platform is propped up by speculators that the second they try to actually monetize the platform everyone leaves.
[deleted] · 451 points · Posted at 19:04:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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WoahThatsRANK · 88 points · Posted at 21:11:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
they updated this again so you could sort stories and messages but it hasnt rolled out fully or something. My girlfriend can sort stories and messages, but i still have the cluster fuck, and we're both on iphones. I just want my stories back :(
jld2k6 · 11 points · Posted at 21:18:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can you not just download the newest version of the app and install it? Is that not something you can do on iOS? If it is, you could fix the issue in 3 minutes
zezosk · 24 points · Posted at 21:19:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Some people get beta updates before everyone else.
SpringCleanMyLife · 8 points · Posted at 03:30:29 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
A/B testing is also a thing.
jld2k6 · -1 points · Posted at 22:41:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You normally can still just install the Beta app too even if you aren't part of the beta unless they use online verification, then the app will load but not let you have any usability. I do it a lot for apps that show up on the Android sub. I would guess something like Snapchat does have verification though
WoahThatsRANK · 2 points · Posted at 00:05:49 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
for some reason it hasnt rolled out fully? no idea
perfectllamanerd · 7 points · Posted at 21:43:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Worst is you can’t even slide to check the chat without them knowing. It forces you to open it. You can try to slide but it brings you to another section.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:26:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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WoahThatsRANK · 2 points · Posted at 00:05:58 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
where do i go in settings?
seenjosh · 1 points · Posted at 09:39:21 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
The clusterfuck made me stop watching stories all together. What a terrible design. And who even uses the ad page?? It's so frustrating that great social apps like Instagram and snapchat are being bogged down by garbage, we got these apps because they were clear and simple. Now every major social app is trying to be just like one another with a bit of 'unique' variation. Sigh, I miss the old days...
[deleted] · -6 points · Posted at 02:16:11 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You want a story? Here is one. There is this couple who uses snapchat. Snapchat came about sending discreet photos and or messages that would delete upon reading. People used that app to cheat on their significant other.
Your girl is using Snapchat. And all of her chats are not with you...
And that story leaves us at a cliffhanger. Enjoy!
[deleted] · -7 points · Posted at 02:16:18 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You want a story? Here is one. There is this couple who uses snapchat. Snapchat came about sending discreet photos and or messages that would delete upon reading. People used that app to cheat on their significant other.
Your girl is using Snapchat. And all of her chats are not with you...
And that story leaves us at a cliffhanger. Enjoy!
WoahThatsRANK · 2 points · Posted at 03:42:51 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
oh my gooodddd ronnyyyyy
MailOrderHusband · 4 points · Posted at 23:39:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The best Snapchat update was to make it so you could set view time to infinity. Literally killed the “view for a limited time” gimmick that they were built upon.
jordan_muz · 1 points · Posted at 06:44:16 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I disagree because if it's a discrete message or whatever it can still be sent for a limited amount of time and the feature is useful for other types of messages
MailOrderHusband · 1 points · Posted at 07:40:02 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s useful, and I use it...but still against the original premise.
Avedas · 0 points · Posted at 04:01:17 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Kinda happy Snapchat is dead as fuck here. Instagram is much better.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 04:29:00 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook owns instagram
Avedas · 0 points · Posted at 05:52:24 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
What's that have to do with Snapchat being irrelevant garbage lol
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 07:05:00 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Theyre all garbage. Use GNU Social.
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 03:24:18 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:25:31 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You sound like a snapchat employee trying to justify destroying your userbase for ad revenue.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 03:58:29 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:30:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You described ads as "cool stories and other random facts"
pingo5 · 1 points · Posted at 16:16:14 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tbh theyre more clickbait articles than ads
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:39:51 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
They're ads thinly veiled as clickbait articles. "10 ways to save money at Gottschalks" and "Is your makeup a bad fit for you? How to bring out your cheekbones with Avon".
pingo5 · 0 points · Posted at 17:08:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, looking at it now theres like 3 news articles relating to protest, a nasa post, awildsketchappeared, and if i scroll a little bit theres a 24k iphone so i guess theres that?
Pigmentia · 1 points · Posted at 21:56:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit's future, no doubt :(
Hexorg · 1 points · Posted at 22:21:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Pretty sure facebook's been monetizing for quite a lot more than a second
unlock0 · 0 points · Posted at 01:00:54 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Which is why Facebook is the old people's platform. Younger people use snap, Instagram, whatsapp, slack, etc.
Major monetization overhauls lost Facebook thier market share.
UniMatrix028 · 1 points · Posted at 23:19:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That is because people hate to constantly be bombarded with advertisements. The whole reason to hang out with friends and family is to escape the shitty commercial treadmill for awhile. Reddit is really doing it's best to fuck things up.
jimjam112 · 1 points · Posted at 00:03:59 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
But if you regularly buy up all the newcomers you can keep the illusion going forever.
FriesWithThat · 1 points · Posted at 02:56:42 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I recommend the brand new TeslaXbook.
OculusFanboy · 1572 points · Posted at 17:32:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I can't use Twitter anymore. Too much vitriol from all political sides.
NewClayburn · 1879 points · Posted at 18:17:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I tweet about how terrible Reddit is on Twitter. Reddit is where I shit on Facebook. When I need to complain about Twitter, I go to Facebook. Google Plus is dumb.
Ragnar_Targaryen · 1455 points · Posted at 19:02:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google Plus:
Bigdstars187 · 369 points · Posted at 19:22:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Gonna post this on my xanga page
Edit : calm down livejournal fans
surprised-duncan · 165 points · Posted at 19:23:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can I link to it from my friendster? Also add me on ToonTown.
BumbleyGimbus · 21 points · Posted at 20:41:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Anybody wanna be my friend on Neopets?
ItsMrKanedaToYouPunk · 6 points · Posted at 00:31:55 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sure, wanna play some pool at Yahoo afterwards then head over to Newgrounds?
Bricklesworth · 4 points · Posted at 12:01:33 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Come check out my Angelfire page!
swr3212 · 29 points · Posted at 20:17:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You have to LiveJournal first
sanimalp · 5 points · Posted at 21:02:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You can get a link to my livejournal from my sixdegrees profile
Sledgerock · 3 points · Posted at 01:19:55 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Maybe if you askgeeves
NoTequila_NoAnal · 1 points · Posted at 13:39:15 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I actually recently just made a new LJ account. I was feeling super nostalgic. Although going through the feed I can't understand anything now, because it's all in Russian.
thisismyMelody · 13 points · Posted at 20:03:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can't wait to blog it on my freewebs page tonight
Falco98 · 6 points · Posted at 20:12:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm gonna hotlink to this comment from my Geocities Homepage...
Vamosity-Cosmic · 6 points · Posted at 20:02:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Toontown has like 2k concurrent players
DasHarris · 4 points · Posted at 20:18:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Shit, I gotta vent about all this on livejournal.
jaewayne · 9 points · Posted at 20:09:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Holy shit I totally forgot about ToonTown. I felt indifferent with ToonTown
surprised-duncan · 10 points · Posted at 20:11:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What about Club Penguin
Virge23 · 13 points · Posted at 20:33:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My first sexual encounter :(
Jordaneer · 4 points · Posted at 23:34:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/bannedfromclubpenguin
Ryguylv · 8 points · Posted at 20:44:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah. Habbo Hotel was hot back in the day.
Team____Rocket · 2 points · Posted at 21:35:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Too bad the habbo hotel swimming pool got shut down. I wonder why that happened???
jaewayne · 2 points · Posted at 22:30:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Haha habbo hotel was the greatest
a_seventh_knot · 2 points · Posted at 22:34:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
until the pool got shut down
Jordaneer · 2 points · Posted at 23:37:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/bannedfromclubpenguin
jaewayne · 1 points · Posted at 22:30:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh man club penguin. Memories that aren't the best
JonG311 · 3 points · Posted at 20:30:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wait until my LiveJournal hears about this!
2202Jonathan · 2 points · Posted at 21:41:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Add me on MySpace
KimJongIlSunglasses · 2 points · Posted at 21:43:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I will if you join my geocities ring.
DietMtnDewAddict · 2 points · Posted at 21:57:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you on Hi5 too?
KassellTheArgonian · 1 points · Posted at 19:48:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hey who wants to be my friend on binweevils?
EvEnFlOw1 · 2 points · Posted at 20:58:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I will, but only if you add me on Wizard 101. :-P
EzeDoes_It · 1 points · Posted at 21:02:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What, your WUPHF isn't set up?
Saint-Peer · 7 points · Posted at 20:32:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There’s a website (Or a couple out there) that tracks all your web presence and aggregates them into a single profile, and you can only delete this profile if email them. Of course they’ll link email to your Facebook/LinkedIn or what have you, but additional sites also include old forums and even Xanga. I can’t remember the specific site I used to find myself, but I honestly thought I purged the prepubescent cringe-factory that was my Xanga page and yet there's a copy online. People, please don’t use Xanga if it still exists, it was a horrible time for me.
Couthlessfer · 4 points · Posted at 20:45:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you remember where to do this, plz lmk. Somewhere out there I made a xanga post about how I started my period the very first time. My grandkids don't need to see that.
Saint-Peer · 3 points · Posted at 22:46:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Couldn't find the website but it was something like pipl.com
vagabonne · 2 points · Posted at 20:51:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
!RemindMe 7 days
BackflipFromOrbit · 6 points · Posted at 20:14:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
dude add me on Myspace!
farnnie123 · 2 points · Posted at 20:17:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was gonna be all melodramatic that everyone forgot about poor MySpace :( then there you are <3
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:34:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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coffee_for_dinner · 1 points · Posted at 01:39:45 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Pfft all the real cool kids have a DeadJournal. I’d link mine but it’s friend-only, sorry.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:59:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Aherosxtrial · 1 points · Posted at 21:06:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nailed it.
emberaith · 1 points · Posted at 03:00:47 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Gotta post this on my angelfire page...
KHfailure · 112 points · Posted at 19:33:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In best John Oliver voice:
And now, let's take a moment to discuss Google+, the Roku of social media.
Edit: this comment was not made to hate on Roku, it's a Last Week Tonight thing.
Also: whoosh.
Edit2: https://youtu.be/LEcbagW4O-s
Roku thing starts at about 1:06, payoff is at around 1:30ish.
Edit3: was too harsh, removed.
jaydub1001 · 67 points · Posted at 20:21:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I like my Roku :(
Tacosofinjustice · 12 points · Posted at 20:43:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We do too. I don't know why they shit on Roku. We have 3. One per bedroom and the living room has the Xbox one and smart TV. And love them soo soo much.
SuperKato1K · 7 points · Posted at 20:50:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Which is fine, Roku is still the biggest OTT streambox out there (almost as much market share as its next two competitors combined). That may not last forever, but it's a fact right now.
Jordaneer · 2 points · Posted at 23:39:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, I have a Roku in one room and a Chromecast on another tv, the Roku is a lot more reliable than my Chromecast
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 20:37:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And I'm sure people like their Google+
jaydub1001 · 17 points · Posted at 20:40:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But Roku isn’t actually bad.
[deleted] · 24 points · Posted at 20:43:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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SuperKato1K · 8 points · Posted at 20:51:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I agree, so do a lot of others as it's still got #1 market share for OTT streamboxes.
Psycold · 4 points · Posted at 21:50:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nailed it. I've had my Roku 3 since 2013 or 14, daily use, still going strong.
cfdeveloper · 3 points · Posted at 23:44:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
i've been using a roku 2 for longer than i can remember (which must be at least 30-50 years, so i must have a really old model)
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:57:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And neither is Google+.
kinyutaka · 5 points · Posted at 20:38:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google+, the social media site you think so little about, you didn't realize this wasn't Google+, this was.
Zeek2517 · 4 points · Posted at 22:48:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Roku: Somebody said our name! It's happening!
SuperKato1K · 3 points · Posted at 20:48:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Eh, Roku's more like the Facebook of social media tbh... still #1 (it's got something like 50% more market share than it's next competitor) but is slowing down and its future profitability is uncertain alongside growing trends in its field.
In reality Roku has a far larger audience than any of its competitors. Almost as much as Google's Chromecast and Amazon's Fire TV combined. Though its lead is shrinking.
KimJongIlSunglasses · 2 points · Posted at 21:44:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What’s wrong with roku?
-Working-Title- · 2 points · Posted at 01:34:39 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Here's me thinking you're throwing odly specific shade on an OG avatar.
Cainga · 1 points · Posted at 02:28:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why is Roku used as a bad device in this joke? For what it does it’s a great device. Xbox360 and PS3 being more powerful streaming devices lost lots of support while my Roku still works. I’ve also had a Blu-ray player that could stream but was never given fresh updates so it’s stuck being slow with horrible UI.
basement_vibes · 6 points · Posted at 19:39:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The Eric Trump of social media.
StingsLikeBitch · 4 points · Posted at 19:53:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ouch...That burn was hot enough to contribute to global warming.
ailyara · 4 points · Posted at 19:29:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ahhh Google Plus, the Butters Stotch of Social Platforms.
SamuraiRafiki · 2 points · Posted at 20:26:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sempai noticed me!
-Google Plus
root0345 · 2 points · Posted at 19:10:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nice one👍
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:08:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let's throw this on LiveJournal.
MrWeirdoFace · 1 points · Posted at 21:04:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I didn't know they still existed. Like yahoo search.
Xalaxis · 1 points · Posted at 21:45:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google Plus:
Smetsnaz · 113 points · Posted at 19:17:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google Plus:
tacolikesweed · 63 points · Posted at 19:08:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You should just funnel all of this complaining onto a PC, PS4 or Xbox live account. Go to a game that has open conversation (or one without and just vent to your mic) and just let off some steam. I can guarantee your teammates will appreciate it.
ScipioLongstocking · 23 points · Posted at 20:05:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It beats the barking dogs and yelling family members that I typically hear on the PS4.
Chaz2810 · 7 points · Posted at 20:21:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don’t forget the obnoxiously loud music
hayhayhorses · 3 points · Posted at 20:20:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Honestly, family arguments. WTF IS UP WITH THAT?! take that shit outside you aenemic sloths.
TheFlagCourier · 1 points · Posted at 21:45:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is why I like my PC. You'll get much less of that, as they're primarily in Bedrooms and Offices, rather than gathering spaces such as a living room or lounge.
ekobres · 1 points · Posted at 21:04:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What’s wrong with doing it on Twitch?
ledzep38 · 2 points · Posted at 19:17:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you Tom Haverford?
odnalyd · 2 points · Posted at 20:50:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What's Google Plus doing?
It's best.
PsyAyeAyeDuck · 1 points · Posted at 19:32:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I read your post as Lord Helmet.
Sometimes_a_smartass · 1 points · Posted at 19:38:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
is google plus going to be like the internet explorer of social media?
LostLobes · 1 points · Posted at 19:46:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And when I need to be alone I head to MySpace
Hugo154 · 1 points · Posted at 19:49:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I just shit on all of them in person, and shit on Reddit on Reddit because I don't talk about Reddit in real life...
DextersLabdl · 1 points · Posted at 19:51:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hey you guys want to go play tag or basketball or something? All that suddenly seems way more fun.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:07:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's time to revive myspace.
CajunTurkey · 1 points · Posted at 20:09:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You should print something in the newspaper about ranting Google Plus.
FoxRaptix · 1 points · Posted at 20:14:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
lets just all go back to myspace, i'm sure Tom is lonely now
OneBlueAstronaut · 1 points · Posted at 20:25:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The best place to shit on reddit is reddit by far. I utterly loathe the vast majority of you people.
Porcau · 1 points · Posted at 20:34:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Speaking of which, can we get a few more folks on Gab.ai who aren't completely out of their gourd? It's a bit lonely on there for the politically moderate.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:43:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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NewClayburn · 1 points · Posted at 20:50:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The problem was putting the responsibility on me to circle people. I don't fuckin' know what your interests are. They should have let me create the buckets and let my followers choose which ones they go in.
I think they've recently tried to fix this with "Collections" but it's too late now since no one's left on Google+ except spammers and random foreigners.
tumsdout · 1 points · Posted at 20:46:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
and Google Plus
dak4ttack · 1 points · Posted at 23:03:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And G+ apparently
chewielewie88 · 1 points · Posted at 23:27:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
leave brittney alone!
ridum1 · 1 points · Posted at 09:00:02 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
internet is a garbage dump.
Aegi · 0 points · Posted at 19:55:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I just use my Google+ as a way to save links, pictures, and videos from across the web. Then I don't have to message myself or email it but I still get easy access to it from anywhere.
NewClayburn · 1 points · Posted at 19:58:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I have a YouTube channel, so it auto-posts there when I publish on YouTube. Sometimes I'll +1 it if I notice.
FerusGrim · 90 points · Posted at 18:43:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, you choose who you follow. I haven't seen a single political message from anyone, really.
ChaseballBat · 36 points · Posted at 19:33:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah I know multiple people who have deleted FB because of all the politics on it.... And I'm like you know you can hide or delete those friends right?
Always get the response: that's too much work....
I did it and now I never see any politics or people that annoy me on FB. My feed is always about coming up events/music, and just friend's slice of life stuff that I don't really pay too much attention too. Much more enjoyable and useful.
shawnadelic · 19 points · Posted at 19:46:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They even have a 30-day "snooze" now, if you just want a break from someone's posts but aren't sure if you want to completely unfollow them yet.
ChaseballBat · 8 points · Posted at 19:54:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's pretty smart, honestly I think FB is pretty ingenious at times. And other times it can be massively idiotic. I suppose I get more benefit from owning a FB than not which is why I still have one.
PacificaDogFamily · 5 points · Posted at 20:30:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Stuff you don’t pay attention to is useful?
ChaseballBat · 1 points · Posted at 20:51:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, FB is just over that 50% enjoyable/usefulness threshold that makes me keep it. Stuff I don't necessarily pay attention to but might catch my eye is like seeing how a wedding went, or a family member is doing, or that my friend went on vacation, etc. But I primarily use it for events and keeping in touch with groups of friends.
MrWeirdoFace · 3 points · Posted at 21:06:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The problem for me was that suddenly it was everyone. Instead of deleting my account, I simply used Facebook messenger instead. It just became an ordinary IM service to me.
ChaseballBat · 2 points · Posted at 21:12:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Haha yeah I suppose it could have been overwhelming especially last year during elections. I stayed off FB feed for a bit during those few months, only looked at notifications to keep me sane
wsteelerfan7 · 2 points · Posted at 22:05:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
When the political posts are posted/shared by your grandma, cousins, aunts, friends, uncles, etc, you cant really delete everyone. I deleted Facebook because of it and the fact that every non-political post was a promoted ad.
ChaseballBat · 1 points · Posted at 00:41:50 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You can unfollow, hide or temporarily hide types of posts from people now without unfriending them now. You can also hide posts from people that spam a website or something. So like if someone keeps posting Ticketmaster links over and over you can hide ticketmaster posts from showing up on your feed.
Not convincing you too use FB, I couldnt care less. But it's kinda like managing your email, if you don't stay on top of it it just turns into a mess of emails that's hard to find what you were there to find. But if you use the tools that are provided you can tailor it to your liking.
wsteelerfan7 · 1 points · Posted at 04:18:25 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've been off of Facebook for the better part of the last 2 years, mostly because of the background battery usage. I even installed Facebook lite, but I couldn't bring myself to look at it or use it for more than a day or two.
Edit: don't you have to hide specific pages that people are sharing to filter it? If like 50 people on my friends list are posting links or sharing different pages, it's definitely a hassle to filter.
Lurkers-gotta-post · 2 points · Posted at 19:38:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You must have no friends.
/s I guess, but really, it's pretty prevalent.
MJZMan · 1 points · Posted at 23:53:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You can still find political information if you'd like using trending hashtags.
You don't have to follow a million people to keep in touch with it, you just have to use it wisely.
Rehabilitated86 · 130 points · Posted at 17:52:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't see how someone could get anything out of Twitter. What can someone say in 160 or so characters that interests you so much?
ripyourbloodyarmsoff · 461 points · Posted at 18:26:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Your comment was 131 characters. The comment you replied to was 71.
DevotedToNeurosis · 66 points · Posted at 18:41:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
aside from /r/bestof (and /r/bestof bait) most highly upvoted comments are short.
Oracle_of_Knowledge · 9 points · Posted at 19:57:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That reminds me I should go copy/paste a 2000 character diatribe of links about bad stuff Trump did. I could use another 2k Karma bump.
MsPenguinette · 4 points · Posted at 19:13:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/ThreadKillers
TractionCityRampage · 1 points · Posted at 02:08:18 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/depthhub is a bit better than bestof in my experience. The bestof posts I see are mostly trump related.
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 19:24:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To add to your point:
According to this post, the average length of comments in this sub (r/news) is ~215 characters.
While it's more than the length you two touched on, it's not a giant difference. Short comments can definitely be worth reading.
By the way, this comment is 301 characters long.
Iggyhopper · 17 points · Posted at 18:41:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit is Twitter incognito confirmed.
THE_MAGIC_OF_REALITY · 2 points · Posted at 20:44:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
he ded
Stop_Sign · 1 points · Posted at 22:51:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Subject, question, answer. If the answer is constricted, the subjects and questions are too. Just cause the subject and question are short doesn't mean the expected answer is. Limitations on characters limit the questions you can ask
kuzuboshii · -6 points · Posted at 18:56:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In context to a much larger conversation, one that is nearly impossible with twitters format, so your point here is very shallow and lacks any perspective towards the actual situation. But nice try.
How many letters was that?
[deleted] · 13 points · Posted at 19:00:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
have you guys ever heard of tweet threads?
i copy and pasted this comment into Twitter btw, it fits
ShrimpShackShooters_ · 10 points · Posted at 19:20:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People just love to shit on Twitter for some reason.
As with all these social media platforms, they are what you make them to be. My girlfriend uses Facebook vastly different than I do.
Twitter is the same, get into politics or not. Follow brands or don't. It's all up to you. Same with Instagram, Reddit... you can use them however you want. If you can't find a way to use it to your liking, then yeah it's not for you.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:24:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reminds me of Tumblr. People always shit on it for the radical nonsense and the superwholockian mess, but I never seen any of it. I just see oil on canvas paintings. It's nice.
ngwoo · 3 points · Posted at 21:32:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's also the best social network for porn
chazysciota · 5 points · Posted at 19:24:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The proud ignorance on display here is amazing. You don't think people have deep or meaningful conversations on twitter? Half of the HuffPo's content is literally just rehashes of twitter discussions/arguments.
kuzuboshii · -4 points · Posted at 20:51:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You think these are deep and meaningful discussion, then accuse me of ignorance? There are just no words.
chazysciota · 2 points · Posted at 20:55:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Whatever dude. You've already demonstrated willful ignorance, so your petty rhetoric ain't shit.
kuzuboshii · -1 points · Posted at 21:45:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ah yes, that moment when I displayed willfull ignorance and this isn't just a shitty attempt by a stupid person to discredit someone who disagrees with them rather than actually having to think about anything. What was that display again? I'm curious.
chazysciota · 1 points · Posted at 22:46:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ignorance. Where you don't know what you're talking about, but you persist. But sure man, Twitter is dumb and useless for discussion, and you've figured it all out. I'll be getting off your lawn now.
kuzuboshii · 1 points · Posted at 00:55:14 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You don't seem to understand the difference between insulting someone and making a valid point. Which, ironically, is a demonstration of my point about twitter. Nice one.
chazysciota · 1 points · Posted at 00:56:40 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You got it. Nice one.
kuzuboshii · 1 points · Posted at 01:15:49 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
At least we agree on something.
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 19:04:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:44:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
At least link the burn ward centers.
K45C4D3 · 322 points · Posted at 18:04:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Real time notifications regarding sports scores, injury updates, transfers, etc. Things that don't require entire paragraphs. I don't necessarily want to read or have the time to digest a full article about any possible update.
Get a tweet that says Zlatan went to LA Galaxy? Cool, I can check it out on my lunch break and send my wife a quick text about it, I don't need to read the article with his agent statements, press statements, what have you. It's just a passive feed of info that cuts out the middlemen who wrote the stories. They get their news from Twitter anyway.
StampMan · 109 points · Posted at 18:22:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter is really a perfect platform for sports updates. That's pretty much the only thing that keeps me on it.
Alderis · 76 points · Posted at 18:28:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Informational updates on anything, really.
Having a discussion or conveying nuance in any way whatsoever? Hell no! Twitter is good for exactly one thing. It's everything else that people are trying to do with it that is the problem. Useful tool for narrow communication; terrible social media platform.
Annas_GhostAllAround · 15 points · Posted at 18:49:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's why it was seen as so incredible during the Arab Spring, we were able to get real-time updates from the people on the ground there about what was happening, without any "spin" from network news
Kravego · 6 points · Posted at 18:58:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm a cybersecurity guy. Twitter is the #1 place for up to date information regarding literally anything in the industry, from software updates to live malware tracking.
Gemuese11 · 2 points · Posted at 18:47:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
i also like it a lot for tour and single/album announcements for musicians i like.
twisterkid34 · 2 points · Posted at 18:58:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's also a really good platform for weather updates and messaging. We use it a lot in the meteorology community. My one criticism is the non chronological timeline can get fucky sometimes.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:03:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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cleesus · 1 points · Posted at 21:30:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It still is, they just have a feature that shows you content from your favorite tweeters when you first open the app
twisterkid34 · 1 points · Posted at 21:42:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yupp and most people don't disable this so they end up seeing old messages. Which can get confusing for some.
MJZMan · 1 points · Posted at 23:49:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It was also the perfect platform for man-on-the-street style reporting, as evidenced by its role in the Arab Spring. Sadly, that evolved into the platform for agitator bot-on-the-webz to the point where it lost trust, which is crucial to a news platform.
hooklinensinkr · 7 points · Posted at 18:27:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've noticed that people in major cities are way more into Twitter than everyone else.
[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 18:46:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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hooklinensinkr · 1 points · Posted at 19:32:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's kind of obvious when you think about it. Twitter is useful for getting small snippets of information from a lot of people efficiently. People in smaller places know a manageable amount of people and have limited events going on around them, whereas people in places like Vancouver, NYC, LA, Seattle, etc. have a plethora of events and choices around them all the time, as well as a larger circle of people they might interact with on a regular basis. These cities also attract more artistic/creative crowds who use Twitter to network much more frequently than something like LinkedIn.
bheal · 1 points · Posted at 18:58:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In my experience, not a whole lot of people in Dallas will admit to being active on Twitter. The general consensus seems to be that is is basically useless for most discussions and therefore a waste of time.
Most of the pople I know who do have a Twitter handle use it very very seldomly.
I don't know how well my experience and observations translate to the world-at-large, but that's what I see and hear.
bryanisbored · 2 points · Posted at 20:34:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
just dallas or all of texas because some of the finest women ive seen on twitter are from Houston.
bheal · 1 points · Posted at 20:36:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I know almost no one in Houston, sorry.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 18:57:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
For me the appeal is being able to connect directly to people without having to go through a medium of, say, a website or a blog.
We're still going through the medium of twitter, obviously, but it feels like a much more direct connection, somehow.
Xtreme256 · 2 points · Posted at 18:57:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah twitter is amazing for keeping up with interesting stuff without browsing all the reddits that interest you.
creamgetthemoneyy · 1 points · Posted at 19:11:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Also really good for severe weather (good for spring time in Oklahoma)
BeasleyTD · 1 points · Posted at 19:30:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I literally only use Twitter to follow sports news.
OhSheGlows · 0 points · Posted at 18:54:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Anymore, I’m only on Twitter for live tweets of disasters and attacks.
cIamjumper · -29 points · Posted at 18:12:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Cool!
The surveillance state grows, but at least you can conveniently get your sportsball scores.
This, friends, is the sort of selfish, careless, and complacent idiocy which allows the State to do these evil things to us.
SwoleFlex_MuscleNeck · 9 points · Posted at 18:21:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who invited Uncle Alex Jones?
cIamjumper · -7 points · Posted at 18:28:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Bread and circuses for you! You are so enlightened!
bmoviescreamqueen · 6 points · Posted at 18:23:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Would you like some coupons on tin foil? I have tons.
cIamjumper · -2 points · Posted at 18:29:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You are the one being spied on and indoctrinated by propaganda trolls. I'll consider any insults and downvotes from the likes of you as an honor.
KingCyrus20 · 3 points · Posted at 19:10:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And you, being on reddit, are also being spied on, so drop the superiority complex.
bmoviescreamqueen · 1 points · Posted at 19:23:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're using Reddit, owned by a corporation (Who have financial ties to Jared Kushner by the way) that frequently has its content referenced on blogs, websites, and news articles. If you think you're not being spied on here too, you're wrong. The internet is not safe.
cIamjumper · 1 points · Posted at 19:50:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep. I do not post anything personal, I do not buy any products advertised on reddit, and I make use of VPNs.
I do not use any other social media, and I am just about fed up with this shithole. I've definitely seen enough Star Wars/Marvel advertising and Shareblue propaganda to last a lifetime.
bakedzitiarms · 10 points · Posted at 18:16:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
dude, chill out. its not that big a deal
cIamjumper · -1 points · Posted at 18:30:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
See: complacent
That's you!
A_Tame_Sketch · 45 points · Posted at 18:09:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's like 280 or something now. I mostly use it for artists or bands / games. I don't need a 10 pages thesis. A simple hey new video etc out here's the link.
knockemdead8 · 1 points · Posted at 19:37:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, I mostly use Twitter to follow authors/artists/YouTubers. It's easy for them to post short updates on that, and still less of a hassle to check than Facebook.
metalshiflet · -1 points · Posted at 19:25:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit does that too though
Lonyo · 36 points · Posted at 18:13:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was going to see a comedian the other week, and it snowed. So I was checking his Twitter to see if he was still going to make it to the city to be able to perform. He provided some updates on his location/etc.
There are various things Twitter can be useful for. Sometimes you really do care what that celebrity is doing right at a given moment.
I also used SpaceX's Twitter to get updates on when the launch would be for one of the recent ones which was delayed by about 3 hours.
And sometimes when there's a problem with something (e.g. logging in to a game) I will check Twitter to see if it's just me or if other people are having issues too.
It's not a "must visit" site, but sometimes even a few characters can fill in gaps in information. I also check Donald's Twitter to see what's been on Fox and Friends in the morning.
ethicsg · 1 points · Posted at 20:20:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The New York post office in the 1920's had three post card services a day so you could make lunch plans, conform them, and get your mistress lined up separate from your wife.
Superpickle18 · 11 points · Posted at 18:06:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
it's been increased to 280 characters. And the point of tweets is short statements or updates. Kinda like RSS feeds when those were popular.
nb4hnp · 11 points · Posted at 18:53:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Love to get advice from someone who has no idea what they’re talking about
doublecatTGU · 2 points · Posted at 00:16:49 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It was a question, not advice.
WacoWednesday · 8 points · Posted at 18:59:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s like literally the same thing as reddit with a different format. It always cracks me up when I see redditors bash social media, not realizing they are literally using a social media site
alwayzbored114 · 6 points · Posted at 18:25:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I use it for online communities and friends. It's great for keeping up with people in a more conversational way rather than Facebook's style of "everyone write their own essay". It takes getting used to, but I rarely have trouble fitting most ideas into 1-2 tweets
Gadaeus1 · -9 points · Posted at 18:43:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Probably means your ideas aren't worth seeing.
alwayzbored114 · 4 points · Posted at 18:46:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because there's no value in casual conversation with friends? Sorry you're unfamiliar
[deleted] · 10 points · Posted at 18:00:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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random123456789 · -4 points · Posted at 18:07:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The stupid jokes are fine when it's among your peers. The problem is that Twitter allows idiots to broadcast to the world how much of an idiot they really are. And that has had real life implications (as stupid as that is).
If you just want sports headlines, use an RSS feeder.
alwayzbored114 · 7 points · Posted at 18:26:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You just described all social media
including Reddit
random123456789 · 0 points · Posted at 18:30:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The issue is that Twitter users use their real names for some dumb reason (they think they are safe from consequence?) just like on Facebook. Reddit allows you to be anonymous, just like this account.
alwayzbored114 · 4 points · Posted at 18:32:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Except... not everyone does? You shouldn't just generalize millions of users. In my experience at least, the only people who use their real names are those of fame or who purposefully keep a very low profile
and idiots, but ya know, there'll always be some
random123456789 · -3 points · Posted at 18:38:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What are you, a Russian troll?
/s
SwoleFlex_MuscleNeck · 2 points · Posted at 18:22:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because it's 2007. Stumble upon is just as good
Gets_overly_excited · 4 points · Posted at 19:04:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You just posted on Reddit in less than 280 characters (same as Twitter’s limit). In fact, most Reddit posts and comments would probably fit in a tweet.
Sat-AM · 3 points · Posted at 19:31:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
With Twitter's format, it's very good for memes, jokes, conversation, artwork, and music sharing. Because others can retweet, you can find a lot of new stuff you hadn't seen before. It still maintains a mostly chronological timeline (with a few exceptions), and has features like lists where you can add users who you may want to keep up with specifically.
IMO, it's a terrible place for serious discourse, even with its recent character limit increase, but not every social media needs to be a good place for that.
pqrk · 2 points · Posted at 18:41:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
a bunch of artists use twitter to share works and works in progress too, which is pretty cool.
Sky_Muffins · 2 points · Posted at 18:51:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter is a great platform for city notices from police, weather warnings, and the like, especially since they would otherwise spend 2 million making a horrendous website for those things.
Totaltrufas · 2 points · Posted at 18:56:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
you clearly don't know what a meme is
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 18:59:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You aren't very creative, are you?
conyeighwest · 2 points · Posted at 19:00:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
All I get out of this comment is “get off my lawn”
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:02:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People were using motivational posters and calendars with inspiring quotes for decades before Twitter was a thing.
Just because it's new, on a screen and has a silly sounding name doesn't mean it isn't the same old shit.
kiwicauldron · 2 points · Posted at 19:03:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s amazing for networking in academia. I mainly share articles relevant to my subfield with a brief description of the results and link to the published work. This has put me in contact with a number of important PIs (primary investigators aka people who run labs) in my field.
moultano · 2 points · Posted at 19:06:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Links. Idle thoughts from important people that they don't have the time to flesh out into an article. Start with following John Carmack and spread out from there.
Aesho · 2 points · Posted at 19:43:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
240 characters and you can now start a thread when you are trying to say something that needs more than 240 characters. Great memes. It full of really funny stuff and people. /r/BlackPeopleTwitter. Then again I am 21 and everyone I know don't really use Insta as much anymore. Twitter is king, and Snap is #2.
CtrlAltTrump · 1 points · Posted at 18:20:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
you know whats happening around you, its like your spy tool.
SwoleFlex_MuscleNeck · 1 points · Posted at 18:20:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You don't use social media for "someone."
You use it to see what everyone says. Being "in touch" like the machine professor X uses to check the pulse of the mutant population, but we don't need superpowers.
It's a valid way to form an opinion.
caninehere · 1 points · Posted at 18:48:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Plenty of people totally use social media for "someone."
I got Facebook when it came out because I was in high school. I used it to poke girls I went to school with and flirt with them online, and that was pretty much the whole purpose.
Then I grew up and went to university and stopped using it.
There are people who use it to get their news and keep in touch with people, but c'mon, there are plenty of people who just use it to keep in touch with particular people - I know a lot of people who say "well, I'd quit FB but it's the only way I talk to my extended family".
SwoleFlex_MuscleNeck · 1 points · Posted at 22:12:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
but
Multiple people.
chuckymcgee · 1 points · Posted at 18:40:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's kind of useful for getting breaking information on a single platform from companies and other prominent individuals. Even a headline and a link to a press release is handy.
But otherwise it's an echochamber for particular individuals.
outworlder · 1 points · Posted at 18:58:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
“I’m going to call it The Boring Company” “Boring, that’s what we do” “I’m actually going to do this”
Beebeeb · 1 points · Posted at 19:01:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My friend is diabetic and she uses Twitter to talk to people all over the world about research and hardships from country to country. She even posted once about her supplies being delayed (by a lot) and a guy came by her apartment to drop off test strips!
wrecklord0 · 1 points · Posted at 19:05:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
When twitter was introduced, I thought it was retarded. Then it became worldwide famous. Now I understand the genius of it: few of us have anything worthwhile to say, limiting the message size can only be an improvement.
This is also why it's particularly popular among politicians.
spacecowgoesmoo · 1 points · Posted at 19:13:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's amazing as an aggregated RSS type feed for newsfeeds, companies, and other large entities. It only turns to cancer when you drill down to tweet comments and interacting with individual humans that you don't know IRL.
GopherAtl · 1 points · Posted at 19:45:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
know how half of reddit forms an opinion and dives into commenting without actually clicking, much less reading the article, just accepting the headline and making wild leaps of assumption?
Twitter just streamlines the whole process. You don't even need to find an article to link, just make up a clickbait "headline" and the people will like and share it. As an added bonus, if it's a good enough tweet and you have enough followers, news agencies and blogs will pick it up and invent articles to go with it for you.
bryanisbored · 1 points · Posted at 20:31:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
its 280 and you and youll find the best comedians randomly on twitter. plus sports and very quick updates on anything.
supahotfyah · 1 points · Posted at 18:44:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You joking? Twitter is comedy gold. The problem is people trying to use it as normal social media, where they just follow their friends and the official pages of their interests (sports teams, bands, etc). You gotta know who to follow. Its never comedy central featured comedians that are the funniest, its some 25 year old from alberta, living in his mom's basement that's the greatest.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:01:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Its amazing when typing in japanese. words are 1-3 characters long, whereas english is like 3-15
_Doctor_Teeth_ · 1 points · Posted at 19:09:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
One thing twitter does better than any other platform is breaking news and other events where you want real-time updates (sports games, etc). Also, if you follow the right people, you can get some good discussion/debate on interesting things. There are also a decent number of hilarious novelty accounts.
But yeah most of twitter is trash.
KlaatuBrute · 2 points · Posted at 19:11:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I run social media for my company. Monitoring Twitter literally makes my head hurt. I think it's worse than the YouTube comment section because you can at least kind of tell that on YouTube most horrible people are just intentionally trolling. On Twitter...these are (presumably) real people that believe the things they're typing. It honestly makes me scared for humanity's future.
The flipside is that I've read some of the funniest shit ever, from random people just making observations on daily life.
vnny · 2 points · Posted at 22:02:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yea much better on Reddit where you only see one side
twisterkid34 · 2 points · Posted at 18:57:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Great for breaking news though. Really do love it for that.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 18:59:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Helps if you only follow specific people and ignore the deluge of shit you don't like. Curate motherfucker.
Myfourcats1 · 1 points · Posted at 18:38:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was going to delete my twitter but it wouldn't let me from mobile. I've never figured out what it was for.
caninehere · 1 points · Posted at 18:45:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
TBH I only like it to follow funny people and look at funny tweets. But even when they increased the character count, it made them less entertaining. The constriction of a small character count made for short, snappy jokes.
Nymesiss · 1 points · Posted at 19:03:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tbh I just use twitter to look for porn at this point.
binkerfluid · 1 points · Posted at 19:05:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter has always been awful
Cetarial · 1 points · Posted at 19:26:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sounds like every social media ever.
yellowstickypad · 1 points · Posted at 19:31:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And Reddit is not? Both are terrible for the politics.
Signal_seventeen · 1 points · Posted at 19:37:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That sounds like a "you problem", honestly. You can follow whoever you want to. I personally follow close to 200 people and the result is great content 24/7 by some amazingly inspirational people. Don't like somebody? See'ya!
Twitter is cool, yo.
wingdealing · 1 points · Posted at 19:41:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes and Reddit is an oasis of political tolerance
MetaFlight · 1 points · Posted at 19:48:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
god forbid people get made about the climate and people dying of preventable illness.
LeKa34 · 1 points · Posted at 19:49:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't even consider Twitter a social media, to me it's a just a one way communication channel to follow some YouTubers.
RommelTJ · 1 points · Posted at 19:53:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So don’t follow political vitriol? At least it’s probably not coming from your grandparents like it is on Facebook.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:10:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If I had 3 wishes, I genuinely think deleting twitter (and all clones) might be one of them.
I hate what it's done to just about everything..
gutigen · 1 points · Posted at 20:12:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/4/15177856/mastodon-social-network-twitter-clone
Over million users now and still growing.
nv1226 · 1 points · Posted at 20:18:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thats cause you follow people like that lol come to black twitter. It’s more fun
bryanisbored · 1 points · Posted at 20:30:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
its literally just who you follow, so thats on you. start unfollowing people and it will be fun again.
remag293 · 1 points · Posted at 20:30:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I never reallt did use twitter. Just didnt make sense to me
WordsAnnoyMe · 1 points · Posted at 20:33:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Whenver i see the word vitriol i think about Sam Sepiol
stephenisthebest · 1 points · Posted at 20:38:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Me to going on twitter literally makes me mad sometimes. Got rid of it just on my phone, just after a week I just filled in my time other ways at lunch time, and I haven't been back.
B0bTerwilliger · 1 points · Posted at 20:44:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I started blocking all the toxic users I found on twitter now Its much nicer and roomier, so much room for activities.
4_bit_forever · 1 points · Posted at 20:48:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wait, do regular paper actually use Twitter?... Why?
wildthing202 · 1 points · Posted at 20:49:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Then why follow them then? I do just fine without the political garbage and use twitter to track sports scores and transactions along with gaming news and sales.
ElitistPoolGuy · 1 points · Posted at 21:02:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
80% of twitter is fake accounts
KarmaTrainConductor2 · 1 points · Posted at 21:09:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You say that, yet you still side with those who hate Trump
PMYourBoobs4Kittens · 1 points · Posted at 21:30:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As opposed to Reddit?
OculusFanboy · 1 points · Posted at 21:33:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There are still many subs that don't get bogged down in political shit slinging. Some have banned political discussion outright.
Sugar230 · 82 points · Posted at 17:40:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah like let's leave x for y and they're both owned by Facebook.
[deleted] · 64 points · Posted at 19:22:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, who owns FetLife? If it isn't facebook, then we can all just go over there.
If you're not already there.
StingsLikeBitch · 19 points · Posted at 19:55:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why did you make me google that on my work computer? It is bad enough I spend all day on Reddit, now I gotta worry about the tech police asking questions about my web searching habits.....
[deleted] · 16 points · Posted at 19:59:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What did you think you were going to pull up?
StingsLikeBitch · 39 points · Posted at 20:02:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The next big social media platform? I don't know. Joined though....
Mediocretes1 · 14 points · Posted at 20:10:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Username appropriate.
Anti-AliasingAlias · 9 points · Posted at 20:31:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Unless HR is breathing down their neck or you're generally an asshole then IT probably doesn't care. It's not their job to make sure other departments' employees are productive and not googling porn. They've got more important shit to worry about.
Just don't go to sketchy sites and download shit, because then it becomes a security threat.
StingsLikeBitch · 21 points · Posted at 20:51:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I appreciate that, but it was a joke. I run the IT department, lol.
Chance_Wylt · 3 points · Posted at 05:19:28 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Soooo... Do you generally care if peeps are watching porn or being otherwise unproductive (hey Reddit) or is it just downloading that makes you come down on them?
StingsLikeBitch · 1 points · Posted at 16:39:26 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
All I care about is that the job gets done, and no one falls for phishing scams.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 05:56:31 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Munashiimaru · 2 points · Posted at 08:06:09 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Except he's paid to find the next big social media sites... nailed it.
Kandierter_Holzapfel · 6 points · Posted at 21:02:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lets go back to forums.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 21:40:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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sithsiri · 4 points · Posted at 22:16:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is a 20 page thread.
Airazz · 77 points · Posted at 18:44:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Looks like Reddit is on track to becoming a new Facebook. What with profile pages and stuff, mobile app, hosting pics on their own servers...
BobMajerle · 12 points · Posted at 19:34:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Except they're nothing alike, one is completely anonymous.
[deleted] · 12 points · Posted at 19:47:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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BobMajerle · 6 points · Posted at 19:54:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
sure... it's only 99% anonymity.
EaterOfFood · 9 points · Posted at 19:50:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
For now...
BobMajerle · 5 points · Posted at 19:53:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Unless they start forcing the majority of people to go public, reddit will be nothing close to facebook.
robot_turtle · 5 points · Posted at 21:07:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They don’t need to convince the current user base, that’s impossible. They just need to attract a new one that’s willing to play ball.
BobMajerle · 1 points · Posted at 21:16:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How exactly are they going to attract Orange eaters by selling apples?
robot_turtle · 3 points · Posted at 21:20:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The new Reddit app - user profiles with photo and name, content feed, followers - looks like an orange to me. The iOS version is pretty damn good imo.
The brilliant part is that most of us apple eaters are too busy browsing reddit on our desktops or clinging on to Alien Blue to realize it’s happening.
Edit: word
BobMajerle · 1 points · Posted at 22:15:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That sounds like apple surrounded by an orange peel to me. I don't see facebook users transitioning over here.
a_dishonest_Fear · 0 points · Posted at 20:21:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm a_dishonestfear, you're the EaterofFood. That's not changing anytime soon unless reddit decides to completely change their whole platform, which is stupid to think will happen
call-now · 0 points · Posted at 20:31:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I sense a plot to destroy reddit
darexinfinity · 4 points · Posted at 20:14:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not to the advertisers
xian0 · 1 points · Posted at 23:54:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How did we go from huge leaks to thinking that in just a few years? I guess people didn't read the parts relevant to messages being collected and connected. But if that's the case what was the general take away?
Airazz · 1 points · Posted at 11:41:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
For how long?
DSMB · 1 points · Posted at 23:45:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Unless they add a friends function, not really.
Airazz · 1 points · Posted at 11:37:48 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
There already is a "Follow" function.
DiabloCenturion · 6 points · Posted at 19:02:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The amount of people leaving Facebook for Instagram is hilarious.
publiclandlover · 5 points · Posted at 23:05:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I find it so utterly laughable that this starts from a fucking challenge on Twitter the premier platform for Russian Trolls. Or that many are acting kinda high and mighty about it on Reddit.
Platforms are compromised because they're used by compromised people.
BangBangCalamityJane · 8 points · Posted at 18:13:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If folks are serious about getting off social media, they could switch to a decentralized social network like secure scuttlebutt (just takes a bit of know-how, which is enough of a barrier for some).
hooklinensinkr · 29 points · Posted at 18:29:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes I'm sure something called secure Scuttlebutt is really going to draw in the masses.
BangBangCalamityJane · 5 points · Posted at 18:33:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's probably better if it doesn't draw the masses, just people who care about not being tracked everywhere. Turns out it takes some effort to do that but it's possible. That's the barrier to entry.
hooklinensinkr · 17 points · Posted at 18:40:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I love social networks that cut out that annoying social aspect.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:05:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
GNU Social is a great alternative as well.
minichado · 3 points · Posted at 19:59:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's like thinking you have options for your ISP
RawrMeansFuckYou · 2 points · Posted at 18:58:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let's move from one company who lets people use our information to target us with politically motivated ads to another company who lets bots post inflammatory political content directed at us.
Yay. We should all just use reddit and let the anonymous bs headlines on the front page dictate our opinion. /s
indudewetrust · 2 points · Posted at 20:15:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
God damn chair companies stealing all our information! #destroychairs #standingroomonly
globalvarsonly · 2 points · Posted at 21:19:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Email is still the most reliable, flexible, and secure communication method we've invented. Everything else is created/owned by one company, and dies out in ~10 years in the proprietary abyss. No ones chat/group messaging system does anything email can't, email can easily be encrypted with open standards, and pretty much every end-user complaint about email is actually about how their particular client sorts/displays things.
DoctimusLime · 2 points · Posted at 00:40:14 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Epic comment is epic
ar0ne · 2 points · Posted at 19:19:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Agreed, everyone just wants to be part of somthing. It doesn't matter what it is. The Harlem Shake, Ice buckets, Deleting Facebook, it will only last 1-2 months tops anyway.
I personally don't give a fuck what Facebook is keeping track of. My life ain't that interesting. I use Facebook to make plans with friends and family and chat. If they want to monitor my shopping habits so that the proper ads are displayed for me then great. If they want to spy on people to prevent a terrorist attack or someone getting hurt, even better.
BlasterBilly · 4 points · Posted at 20:37:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What if they want to spy on you to develop a personality profile that can then be used to push content at you to purposely mislead you and alter your perception of the world you live in. I mean if you think about it something like that could change the outcome of something as serious as a presidential election. I know you are probably not that type of feeble minded person to fall for such gimmicks but understand there are many people whos only connection to the world is social media and this is the ultimate form of a propaganda machine. There are many many weak minded people who belive anything they read, facebook is not only a tool to identify those individuals but also the tool influence them.
ar0ne · 2 points · Posted at 21:56:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fair enough. I haven't thought of it like that. I'm constantly fact checking all this political stuff my family posts, 90% of it is bullshit or skewed. I wish Facebook removed "News" posts all together. But I guess that's the money maker.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:52:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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BlasterBilly · 1 points · Posted at 21:08:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not exactly, reddit content is moved up or down by the "users" well supposedly. Sure reddit could be falsifying upvotes but i feel like that would be noticed. Yes i know you can buy them but atleast reddit is striving towards a better option. Also reddit has little to no personal info.
MarshallStack666 · 2 points · Posted at 21:13:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sure, "nothing to hide" ... until they sell your lifestyle info to your insurance company and they jack your rates up or drop you entirely because you live on cheeseburgers & cheap vodka and like to be choked during sex with midget albino donkey hookers.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:58:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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MarshallStack666 · 1 points · Posted at 21:16:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You mean that malicious virus delivery platform that every rational and intelligent person on the internet has been blocking for 5 years with a simple browser plugin?
il1li2 · 1 points · Posted at 18:59:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And the business model and therefore the incentives to allow access to data, are still the same.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:59:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No shit. It's just that Twitter isn't embroiled in controversy like... this week, so I guess they're the "good guys". (despite the fact that every change they have made to their service in the past 5 years has made it worse)
BlueOak777 · 1 points · Posted at 19:03:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I am switching to sociall[dot]io once the beta opens in a couple of days/weeks. very promising and not owned by a bunch of dicks.
optimaloutcome · 1 points · Posted at 19:15:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I saw people sharing memes on Instagram the other day saying stuff like "Keep Calm and Delete Facebook!" with replies to the meme along the lines of "I'm so glad we're connected here!" It made me sad.
barfingclouds · 1 points · Posted at 19:15:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Damn so true
Qubeye · 1 points · Posted at 19:23:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
At least there are still people on Reddit. Dozens of us, in fact.
thinkB4WeSpeak · 1 points · Posted at 19:26:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let's go back to MySpace.
pippy64598 · 1 points · Posted at 19:27:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
More like Muskical chairs.
chadbrochillout · 1 points · Posted at 19:28:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well said
neuromorph · 1 points · Posted at 19:32:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There is a white paper on decentralized social media. It may be the solution
MarshallStack666 · 1 points · Posted at 21:18:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That will last about 5 minutes before our bought and paid for legislators are convinced to make it illegal for "national security" reasons
Cawlite · 1 points · Posted at 19:43:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It will all end up back at IRC channels.
Multipotentialite · 1 points · Posted at 19:49:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sounds like web development.
TheRealMrMaloonigan · 1 points · Posted at 19:54:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We should have never left MySpace, fam.
eissirk · 1 points · Posted at 19:57:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And now they triple charge to sit
Zerodyne_Sin · 1 points · Posted at 20:02:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I only used Google + cuz they already have all data anyway from my Gmail/phone. Too bad it's just not as useful as it should be ie: some companies/people I want to follow aren't using it.
Ruski_FL · 1 points · Posted at 20:09:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook doesn't offer too much value anymore. Instagram changed it's algorithm and becoming annoying too.
Reddit seems ok for now. Most people don't care about privacy.
K4RAB_THA_ARAB · 1 points · Posted at 20:17:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So stand instead.
Richandler · 1 points · Posted at 20:19:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Had lunch with strangers today. More people should try it.
futrtek · 1 points · Posted at 20:32:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I feel Twitter gets a pass. It's shit but it's supposed to be shit. Facebook in the early days actually had a point but it lost its way. The controversy is just icing on the cake, fuck the zuck
KrisG1887 · 1 points · Posted at 20:35:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
MySpace! Bring it back!
Goku_4_Star · 1 points · Posted at 20:39:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Go 4chan
RivalRevelation · 1 points · Posted at 20:54:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So what’s everyone leaving Facebook for? We going back to MySpace?
mickey_28 · 1 points · Posted at 20:55:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I blame Bill Gates
Cashrunner · 1 points · Posted at 20:58:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean yeah but I feel MySpace wasn’t gonna do much except make my you get self look like a fucking idiot
InterestingAsWut · 1 points · Posted at 21:15:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just like user voted news sites like the great Digg to Reddit migration of 2010
thebumm · 1 points · Posted at 21:51:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's what I was thinking. Deletefacebook was because of the election shit, but Twitter was just getting for a month ago for not ever cracking down on bots and being one of the biggest Russian troll/fake new farms.
I mean, getting rid of one account is better than nothing but it does seem silly to campaign against one guilty platform on another guilty platform.
(He says, on another guilty platform.)
turbo_dude · 1 points · Posted at 22:09:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
MySpace, your time has come again!
sdolla5 · 1 points · Posted at 23:39:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It makes me sad. Facebook makes my grandma happy because she can see all her grandkids on it and interact with them even if the bulk don't reply to her. If all my cousins delete Facebook it will leave my grandma alone. She ain't gonna learn twitter. Hell I don't even want to learn twitter.
OddaJosh · 1 points · Posted at 00:19:26 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Seriously. Y'all think Twitter cares about your privacy?
JabroniSn0w · 1 points · Posted at 00:23:05 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
And Space X and Tesla still have their Instagram pages which is owned by Facebook
mherrig97 · 1 points · Posted at 01:19:11 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook needs to be shutdown, the ease of spreading false info is a massive threat to democracy and general population intelligence.
Treenut1 · 1 points · Posted at 02:02:16 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yea you just have to find the one that fits your needs. Apparently pornhub is my social media source.
JustReadingAround · 1 points · Posted at 20:47:41 on April 10, 2018 · (Permalink)
Then how do we stay in touch with our network? Because Facebook is quite neat for networking..
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:05:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
GNU Social
Decentralized social media
wakeupalice · 4536 points · Posted at 18:58:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Holy shit those are brutal tweets if you're managing their social media presence.
[deleted] · 1689 points · Posted at 19:19:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That’s what I was thinking. A hell of a way to learn you’re fired.
puabie · 1658 points · Posted at 19:55:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah, a social media coordinator does a lot, lot more than post stuff on Facebook. In fact, this would be almost nice as a coordinator, because you don't have to manage as many online presences.
Knew_Religion · 1942 points · Posted at 20:08:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Everybody keeps acting like Facebook is it. Their social media team is probably like "Thank fuck I don't have to deal with Facebook anymore."
UFO64 · 379 points · Posted at 20:35:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon: "Happy Friday guys! DELETE THE SHIT OUT OF OUR FACEBOOK!"
atrca · 73 points · Posted at 22:56:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
AMA request the chain of people who handled this request.
I mean that’s not going to be easy to believe if someone walks into your office and tells you to remove the page. Elon wants it gone.
UFO64 · 38 points · Posted at 23:17:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My guess is that the pages aren't deleted, just not public anymore. That, and this was just a direct email from Elon to his team. When your CEO says "jump", you don't question it.
atrca · 7 points · Posted at 02:03:42 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ya I’m sure it’s just unpublished.
Even if it came via direct email I would still have cause for hesitation. A quick look at his twitter page that I’m sure the communications team follows would answer any questions but I wouldn’t be so quick to believe something in email or text you know?
BeeNels · 5 points · Posted at 03:15:51 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm not disagreeing with you, but this is an amusing thought, that someone's Twitter feed is a more trustworthy source of info than a direct text or email.
atrca · 6 points · Posted at 04:32:16 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hahaha true. I guess in my head two compromised accounts is less likely.
myHappyFunAccount · 670 points · Posted at 20:38:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As someone who has this exact job, this is the correct answer :D
WiretapStudios · 122 points · Posted at 21:33:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Agreed, I've managed several Facebook pages for (obviously smaller) companies, and it's just a burden. It's a good presence for a restaurant (hours, menu) and a few other things, but for the most part it's a time suck with very little ROI for the business.
myHappyFunAccount · 75 points · Posted at 21:38:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm not even into it for restaurants... I hate when I want to click hours or menu and it sends me to Facebook. I like how it shows up in the Google search tho.
WiretapStudios · 13 points · Posted at 22:44:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I agree, it's no substitute for a real web page, but so many places have awful pages that sometimes it works. I'd much rather see the Google view for sure though.
choochooape · 5 points · Posted at 00:26:50 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are there other social media platforms with a greater ROI?
WiretapStudios · 3 points · Posted at 08:28:25 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It REALLY depends on the type of company it is, what they do or sell or offer, and how willing they are to either create content or hire someone strictly to create content. Most companies don't want to shell out extra money for those things, so they have pages with no interaction because they are just posting boring things. Then, when it comes time to run a big sale or have an event, the announcements don't get clicked on because they aren't being shown to as many people.
I'm sure it works for some larger companies, but paying for ads on facebook and similar places did nothing for the companies I worked with. If they had spent some money throwing events and doing things that they could photograph and put on facebook, that would mean more interaction with people, who in turn would see the sales and other things they posted.
For example, I suggested at one place that they do an event, then have a photo area with stand up props and decor, and we'd take photos of them and put them up on the page (and / or use their phones too) and then people would tag themselves or comment, etc. which would up the interaction with the page. You could do this on facebook, instagram, snapchat, etc. for free. The manager / owner didn't want to bother with it, and threw money at facebook ads and adwords, which led to no sales at all that I could tell, so it actually lost money.
VAGINA_BLOODFART · 3 points · Posted at 01:08:55 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep. The pain I see in my company's marketing manager every time the topic of Facebook CPA comes up would be entertaining if it weren't so depressing.
WiretapStudios · 2 points · Posted at 08:23:08 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Plus people who haven't dealt with it or aren't as familiar with the web (older people) will "hear" it's the hip thing and want a page and want interaction and followers on the scale of a Nike page. It's doable for something with decent interest and lots of content to post, like a GoPro, but I talked with a midsized chain of stodgy insurance agencies that had a facebook and twitter account that were sad, but there was literally nothing you could do to make it interesting (aside from more wacky things like Dennys). Their posts were hilariously bad.
Great_Zarquon · 8 points · Posted at 21:30:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why would someone go into social media management if they don't like managing social media like Facebook? Is there something about it in particular that makes it worse than others to deal with?
Loves_tacos · 16 points · Posted at 21:35:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I did it because I could work from home while in school. Literally able to watch tv and stuff.
ilikeitsharp · 8 points · Posted at 23:25:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I did it because the boss asked, "Have you liked our FB page?" No. "Go like our page, you're the admim." Ok
I mostly check it to make sure no one is cussing us out. Speaking of which I just remebered I was sick this week and couldn't do as many service calls soooooo Oh shit I need to go check FB now!
Edit: just checked and it's all good. Phew!
myHappyFunAccount · 12 points · Posted at 21:36:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Good question, but doesn't entirely apply to me :) I'm a community manager... There was a time when a Facebook page was valuable to some communities and you need a personal account to manage those. Thank goodness that's no longer the case and I was able to delete both personal and work accounts this week.
Exastiken · 2 points · Posted at 23:53:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I hope Reddit is a happy fun social media account for you :D
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Mellowturtlle · 21 points · Posted at 21:07:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Do it man, delete the page if you can miss the advertisement. Its the only way to protest against their actions. Its not like Facebook will change because of the backlash, so might as well stop using it.
[deleted] · 29 points · Posted at 21:10:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Mellowturtlle · 19 points · Posted at 21:13:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wow, that is eye-opening. I knew it was bad, but never heard a story from that perspective.
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Duck_Giblets · 8 points · Posted at 23:21:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh yeah. You can create targeted adverts to creep out friends. It's great. Have a conspiracy theorist mate on Facebook for some reason?
PM_ME_YOUR_1080 · 11 points · Posted at 21:34:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
omg please post some screengrabs, this is juicy popcorn shit
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xTRS · 6 points · Posted at 22:48:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sore feet is code word for Mexican. Don't lie
PM_ME_YOUR_1080 · 7 points · Posted at 01:54:23 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
My god, what insanity. So they are like 'you are allowed to target demographics but you may not refer to them by their demographic'. Insanity!
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PM_ME_YOUR_1080 · 0 points · Posted at 04:19:58 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
But oh no! Everyone is equally beautiful, and gender doesn't exist, neither does race!
ddejong42 · 3 points · Posted at 23:02:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Their reply itself is sexist, men can wear high heels too!
bobthehamster · 1 points · Posted at 01:06:05 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
The ad was a picture of a woman, targeted at only women.
bashar_speaks · 7 points · Posted at 23:07:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reading the message you screenshotted below, it actually makes sense. They didn't like the "Sore Feet?" part. I find ads like that pretty obnoxious personally. They just don't want to encourage the paranoid insane people who'll see the ad and think "Omg, my feet are sore? Facebook is watching me and can read my mind!". I mean, Facebook does try its hardest to watch people and read their minds, but still... wait.... Why am I defending Facebook? Nevermind.... fuck Facebook.
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bashar_speaks · 2 points · Posted at 15:33:47 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think they are saying if you had an ad for glasses that said: "Crappy eyesight? Buy glasses from here!" that would also be against the rules. I'm guessing they don't want the list of ads bombarding users to collectively come across like "You are ugly and sick, and your body is broken, your feet are sore, and you smell bad!" Because it puts people on the defensive.
whyareyoustanding · 4 points · Posted at 22:27:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How do you remain admin for business page without personal account?
DumPutz · 3 points · Posted at 21:04:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Please say Tx......cause that one job I got...grrrr.
ashura001 · 12 points · Posted at 20:34:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Seriously, fuck Facebook’s Ads Manager. I feel like I didn’t know what hate actually was until I had to start using it.
Aanon89 · 11 points · Posted at 20:31:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yup. It's the biggest social media spot but not even close to the only social media spot. Add to that the fact this single Twitter thread will probably get more publicity to the company than their FB page ever has. Don't think that many people have found those companies from their page. It's also not like people on FB can't post articles about Tesla & SpaceX. Something like that would be a bigger hit to a company.
Thijs-vr · 7 points · Posted at 21:29:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I work in social and I like Facebook. It has the most data, the best tools and despite everyone here hating on it, it still has the most active users in most countries. From an organic point of view there's better platforms, but looking at paid performance there's not much out there that even comes close. That's not just my opinion, benchmarks given by 3rd parties and even the platforms themselves confirm it too.
This whole Cambridge Analytica thing has blown up on sites like Reddit, but truth is that 99.9% of the internet doesn't know, care or understands it. Whether we like it or not, social in large part = Facebook. We chat through Whatsapp or Facebook Messenger, we use Facebook or Instagram to look at pictures of our friends and favourite brands, some use Oculus, most of us have connected to several services through Facebook logins. Whatever way you look at it, Facebook has its hooks in us.
caza-dore · 3 points · Posted at 22:40:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Other services using it to login/authenticate is the real kicker. Things like Tinder dont even work without a FB account. Supposedly Niantic (Pokemon Go and Ingress people) are swapping in FB as an account method for their services too.
lowerthetemp · 2 points · Posted at 23:11:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook’s ad platform and reporting tools are an absolute nightmare. It takes me twice as long to pull end of month numbers with them than it does with Twitter or Google AdWords.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:18:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit's user base is showing its age lol
Adito99 · 94 points · Posted at 20:13:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm a tech. When I hear we're getting rid of the old POS server I drink more whiskey than usual that night. I imagine I'd have a similar reaction to not having to post on facebook anymore.
Esmyra · 72 points · Posted at 20:17:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you drinking to celebrate, or to forget? I’m not following.
TheKLB · 85 points · Posted at 20:21:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
First one... Then the other
Electro-Onix · 2 points · Posted at 21:10:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It happens.
BarbequedYeti · 2 points · Posted at 21:13:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This guy tech's..
sithsiri · 1 points · Posted at 22:12:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I see.
Im_Tiny_Rick · 6 points · Posted at 20:25:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I know when I'm happy I drink away my sorrows.
vflash125 · 2 points · Posted at 20:46:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Stuff it down with some brown.
jlangston1029 · 2 points · Posted at 21:23:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Certainly I caution against the life-altering challenges of outright alcoholism...
...But I applaud the discriminate whiskey drinking.
larrydocsportello · 1 points · Posted at 21:51:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Happy drunk or mad drunk?
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 20:30:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I used to advertise on social media platforms for a few companies and let me tell ya, I'd have loved the reduced work load.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:55:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As a SMC, this all day !
Helmut_Mayo · 1 points · Posted at 23:05:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Agreed.
I work as an advisor in Social Media for a company and Facebook queries are fairly few.
Wouldn't miss em.
cchoe1 · 1 points · Posted at 23:10:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We found the social media manager
flarpflarpflarpflarp · 1 points · Posted at 05:32:21 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, this is like God level social media management. Delete 2 accounts. Front page of dozens more.
digitalgrunt · 77 points · Posted at 19:49:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That job aint going anywhere, just move workload to another platform.
LIME_ZINC_CAMEL · 24 points · Posted at 20:15:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Right? People all over this thread are assuming there are workers down in the Facebook mines. No. There's a tiny team of social media personnel and that's it. They have access to the cafeteria possibly and maybe some coffee. That's it.
StNowhere · 3 points · Posted at 00:25:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Damn, they get coffee? Working for Tesla must be rad.
robin_capuz · 87 points · Posted at 19:55:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's a professional company that deals with all kind of online social relations. They're fine.
You guys joke but some people really think it's just an* intern smoking pot and eating pizza that was just caught off guard.
jtoeg · 166 points · Posted at 19:39:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah imagine finding out you're fired from a really big job at a huge company or institution over tweet. Man that must be devastating. Really devastating.
DreamsBecameMemes · 107 points · Posted at 20:02:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Rex Tillerson approves of this message.
ethicsg · 6 points · Posted at 20:23:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Rex Tillerson knew he was fired when he couldn't get the Rosneft Exxon deal through the sanctions. Nine fucking trillion dollars bitches. He was not fired because of anything else.
THE_MAGIC_OF_REALITY · 4 points · Posted at 20:49:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And the fact that he criticized Trump
ethicsg · 1 points · Posted at 06:57:31 on March 26, 2018 · (Permalink)
If he had made that deal work he could have called Trump anything.
foxhail · 11 points · Posted at 20:03:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Rex Tillerson could tell you all about that.
Badvertisement · 8 points · Posted at 19:59:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
this sounds so sarcastic
stoopslife · 15 points · Posted at 20:04:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just think about it! Like, what if you were on the toilet and you read the tweet about how you were fired?
KoffieA · 1 points · Posted at 20:12:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Rex crapperson
Bjballer · 7 points · Posted at 20:10:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Like Secretary of State or something 😨
iamalwaysrelevant · 3 points · Posted at 20:19:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I manage social media at my work but I also have 5 other media related responsibilities. More get added every few months and some get dropped.
solemnhiatus · 2 points · Posted at 23:46:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Rex...? You OK there bud?
Pavswede · 43 points · Posted at 19:33:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They could form a support group with anyone who has worked under Trump
Aanon89 · 1 points · Posted at 20:26:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well all they need to do is have less focus on that site and focus more on others. I know FB is the most populated but there's always other places. Plus I'm sure not 100% of marketing is done on their Facebook.
Badfickle · 1 points · Posted at 20:06:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah. They still need to Reddit.
n2yolo · 1 points · Posted at 20:50:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Also that your top boss took a single look at your work said it “looks lame”.
ArmyOfMemes · 1 points · Posted at 21:00:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Over tweet? I think the White House is making that the new firing standard.
bertcox · 1 points · Posted at 21:35:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Everybody on the SpaceX team knew it was coming, IE I think their communications director lasts about 6 months at the longest.
TimeBombTom88 · 1 points · Posted at 22:11:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Exactly what I was thinking, probably dozens of people managing those accounts
MeesterBacon · 1 points · Posted at 23:22:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s honestly probably true... Tesla especially is image obsessed. One non customer has to make a scene and they’ll fire anyone. It’s more fun being a fan then being a part of. Like wizard of oz. you think there’s a big magical green man saving the world and it’s just some dweeb with a voice changer.
MrTittyFingers · 1 points · Posted at 00:45:55 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why are we assuming they were fired? Why couldn’t Elon just call and say “hey let’s delete the Facebook and double down on sites like twitter or reddit”
Midwest_Product · 204 points · Posted at 19:50:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't understand why everybody thinks Facebook page == entire social media presence?
mygeorgeiscurious · 29 points · Posted at 20:43:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
For real. Reddit isn’t the only community who knows no one really gives a fuck about Facebook anymore.
noneofyafriendsbiz · 10 points · Posted at 21:13:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook is overrun at this point.
I think people are more so looking for the next thing. Snapchat is having issues and Venmo is okay, but as far as a global social media network - the “cool” and useful options are dwindling.
Digital Strategists are now at website management and being present on the social media platforms that aren’t in danger of going under yet (which is all of them, but, soon, who knows?).
paracelsus23 · 6 points · Posted at 20:35:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Follow me on LinkedIn!
R-nd- · 7 points · Posted at 19:54:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And if Elon didn't know about them probably they weren't necessarily official anyways
Eustace_Savage · 8 points · Posted at 21:53:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Imagine being this gullible.
R-nd- · 1 points · Posted at 00:36:38 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why is it so impossible that they weren't official Facebook pages?
bobthehamster · 1 points · Posted at 01:10:14 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure a multi-million (billion?) dollar company would have access to their own Facebook Business page.
R-nd- · 1 points · Posted at 01:36:01 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm saying they might not have HAD an official Facebook page. Not that he didn't know about his own Facebook. I'm wondering if they were unofficial made by someone without their knowledge.
Eustace_Savage · 1 points · Posted at 07:44:49 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
... They were blue checkmarked. They were official.
bobthehamster · 1 points · Posted at 13:24:40 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm certain a multi-million (billion?) dollar company would have a Facebook Business page.
FahCough · 0 points · Posted at 23:02:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Every employee of Space X and Tesla eats supper with Papa Musk on Sundays.
FahCough · 1 points · Posted at 23:01:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Could be a few people of the team are dedicated to Facebook.
StNowhere · 1 points · Posted at 00:26:13 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Facebook is the only real social media platform" says person using Reddit, a social media platform.
hoax1337 · 0 points · Posted at 11:26:16 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Social media platforms is a pretty broad term, apparently. I'd say Facebook is the only real social network.
[deleted] · 218 points · Posted at 19:26:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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certain_random_guy · 139 points · Posted at 19:48:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To be fair, you have very little control over the UI/UX/design of a FB page. You pretty much get to pick your profile image and banner, and then have to be happy with how the FB engineers set it up. So not really the fault of any Muskian social media team.
TsundereSkye · 54 points · Posted at 20:25:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yea imagine if they had to manage an old myspace page. They'd have to pick a good colour scheme, background, profile pic, custom mouse pointer, and a dope music playlist.
AllPraiseTheGitrog · 15 points · Posted at 21:43:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
...damn, now I kinda wish people still used myspace.
TsundereSkye · 8 points · Posted at 22:15:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
me too my dude, me too
ScarecrowsBrain · 7 points · Posted at 21:17:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Kind of makes me miss the good ole Myspace days haha, where you customized everything. Even could put your music on it.
DietMtnDewAddict · 3 points · Posted at 21:55:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Was fun until the MySpace profile generator pages injected ads into all the profiles. I used to design my own profile tweaks in Notepad++ and felt like MySpace was pretty flexible when it came to allowing customization. But then everyone's pages started just becoming AIDS and brought back PTSD from the Geocities and Angelfire days.
matthewsmazes · 4 points · Posted at 19:38:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But leave that current job off the resume.
Shift84 · 7 points · Posted at 20:00:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Seems like more of a jab at Facebook than the social media team.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 22:08:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd start looking for a new identity.
Marchinon · 15 points · Posted at 20:04:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He is fucking savage on twitter. Someone complained to him about him deleting his Facebook page and he just replied you'll live.
Aesho · 10 points · Posted at 19:47:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You do know that there are other forms of social media than facebook right? Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, Reddit, etc etc.
incompletedev · 7 points · Posted at 19:55:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What's Reddit?
Aesho · 3 points · Posted at 20:00:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
if you stay away from the default subs its great.
Eustace_Savage · 3 points · Posted at 21:53:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Like the one you're in right now?
Aesho · 2 points · Posted at 22:18:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
exactly lol and Well my Reddit tab just goes to /r/all then I browse /r/baseball or /r/SquaredCircle from there. Just happened to see this headline at the top and checked it out.
Eustace_Savage · 1 points · Posted at 22:39:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Too many normie-esque subreddits pollute /r/all and it would take forever to add them to my all filter. I just have to lol at people who think this place is more sophisticated than Facebook in these comments. They haven't looked at /r/all recently.
Aesho · 1 points · Posted at 00:21:55 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I just come for sports, music, and my local city. Politics and shitty clickbait is something I am able to avoid thankfully.
Sololop · 4 points · Posted at 19:39:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How many people does it take to manage a social media presence anyway? A handful? A big team? One underpaid college dropout?
ifuckinghateratheism · 3 points · Posted at 19:46:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
A lot of times it's contracted out to a PR/marketing firm. If they delete the page it just means the firm lost a customer.
CritiqueMyGrammar · 4 points · Posted at 19:50:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not necessarily. They just won't have as many billable hours because they aren't managing that platform anymore.
Depends on how the company is structured, but it could mean that individual no longer has a job. Could mean they're shifted to the leddit/Twitter/Instagram team instead.
Do_I_Need_Pants · 2 points · Posted at 19:54:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I work for a fairly popular company and you’d be surprised. We have 3 people who manage the social media and like 6 people behind the scenes. For how many followers we have you’d think it would be bigger.
FishDawgX · 2 points · Posted at 19:35:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
More brutal for anyone working for Facebook.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:12:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
LOL. that's a job? I figured a manager spent 5 minutes throwing it together.
TrumpKingsly · 1 points · Posted at 22:28:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If that's your whole job, then yes it is pretty outrageous.
chewielewie88 · 1 points · Posted at 23:33:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
i was reading it as more of a dig at facebook itself. the UI is pretty boring but i suppose it was designed mainly for humanoid face profiles and not to make products look good
Ahab_Ali · 1 points · Posted at 00:23:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It just means they are going to have to invest more into their Geocities pages.
Tsquare43 · 4697 points · Posted at 17:36:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I expect Musk to come up with an alternative to FB now...
Chairboy · 6967 points · Posted at 18:00:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
FaceX, take me away!
wi5hbone · 883 points · Posted at 18:45:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That'll teleport your face halfway around the Universe.
Chairboy · 469 points · Posted at 18:50:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh no, not again.
Pariahdog119 · 206 points · Posted at 18:57:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I never could get the hang of Tuesdays.
fazelanvari · 62 points · Posted at 19:20:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You'll be alright as long as you've got your towel
Pariahdog119 · 12 points · Posted at 21:38:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You seem like a hoopy frood.
idk_just_upvote_it · 9 points · Posted at 21:53:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's hitchhiking, then.
Frank_Scorpio · 6 points · Posted at 23:12:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don't panic, that's the main thing
magnificent018 · 1 points · Posted at 03:11:00 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh, not again
[deleted] · 11 points · Posted at 19:16:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just hang in there
Zeph-the-Second · 5 points · Posted at 22:56:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
B-but it was thursdays
Pariahdog119 · 6 points · Posted at 23:04:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I never could get the hang of them, either.
Zeph-the-Second · 3 points · Posted at 23:09:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I can't get the hang of any day. Especially Thursdays
FrostingFlames · 4 points · Posted at 19:37:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, I really thought the faces would be more cooked. Raw face is just disgusting.
Tiels_Fishin_Packers · 8 points · Posted at 19:26:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Need this if you say that
gravitas-deficiency · 5 points · Posted at 20:50:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I understood this reference.
Yanox_ · 3 points · Posted at 20:16:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
what do you mean, again?
bendover912 · 1 points · Posted at 19:11:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You have to do it twice to get back where you started.
BEAT_LA · 2 points · Posted at 19:08:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/blackmirror is leaking
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 18:58:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
turn your face into a low cost flame thrower
sorenant · 1 points · Posted at 19:12:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nothing personnel, kid.
harborwolf · 1 points · Posted at 20:28:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Like that dude and the fire hydrant...
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:17:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Its just like those half dozen episodes of stargate!
Generico300 · 1 points · Posted at 23:10:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
When I look in the mirror, it's like my face has been teleported all the way around the universe and back to me.
smedsterwho · 1 points · Posted at 06:05:00 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
What a Jaunt
kwisatzhadnuff · 37 points · Posted at 19:11:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Face Exploration?
Chairboy · 4 points · Posted at 19:16:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That is my dating strategy in a nutshell.
livinin82 · 135 points · Posted at 19:24:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Face Sex?
Walrus_Fighter · 52 points · Posted at 19:38:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Space sex?
xAsianZombie · 26 points · Posted at 19:42:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm intrigued.
queenbonquiqui · 8 points · Posted at 20:50:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
One ticket, please!
N7ELiTE90 · 5 points · Posted at 21:17:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Idk I'm kinda floating around the idea.
Fusiondew · 5 points · Posted at 21:46:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sex isn’t allowed in space though..
secondlamp · 6 points · Posted at 21:49:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Says who?
Fusiondew · 3 points · Posted at 21:53:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Says NASA. Maybe Musk will #LegalizeIt
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:02:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Fusiondew · -1 points · Posted at 23:17:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I know😂 I was making a joke my dude. I know it isn’t illegal, it’s just against the rules for somebody to take part in sexual intercourse on the ISS.
Socially_Useless · 1 points · Posted at 05:35:12 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Commander Shepard would like a word with them.
WORKING2WORK · 9 points · Posted at 20:00:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is basically how Elon names all things, so probably. FaceX to sound like Face Sex.
Rolled1YouDeadNow · 1 points · Posted at 21:39:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, can't get worse than getting children to say "don't worry, I just got face raped"
shahooster · 6 points · Posted at 19:13:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What kind of PayPal-load can we expect it to handle?
Chairboy · 3 points · Posted at 19:17:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sorry, shahooster, no microtransactions allowed.
iiyatsu · 5 points · Posted at 22:08:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
SpaceBook.
MySpaceX?
lastspartacus · 3 points · Posted at 19:27:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’m holding out for Bookface.
Robbie1985 · 3 points · Posted at 19:50:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Buy Myspace, reinstate it's former glory, win.
TheKrononaut · 3 points · Posted at 22:31:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Heh... face sex
Ripwind · 3 points · Posted at 00:23:38 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
FaceOn! Apply directly to the face!
retrix9 · 2 points · Posted at 19:35:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The social media race Mr. Musk's been hinting about all this time. Russian vkontakte vs Musk's FaceX!
spacewad · 2 points · Posted at 20:11:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How about SpaceBook
Cornhole_King · 2 points · Posted at 20:13:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yea, because XBook would be a very different site.
Cancer7321 · 2 points · Posted at 22:14:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah, def gonna be MyspaceX .
cuhlara · 2 points · Posted at 22:18:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fakeblock @ George Michael Bluth
ascendingone · 2 points · Posted at 23:38:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Face/Off
LogicCube · 1 points · Posted at 19:23:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hahaha thanks for the good laugh man :) that would be really cool if that would really happen...!
Spadegreen · 1 points · Posted at 21:05:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you keep on the conspiracy of elon’s dirty mouth it’s probably be called FaceX Os
SausageTweezers · 1 points · Posted at 21:23:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facex.space is available on GoDaddy for $1.99
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:57:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
how about "FakeIt.com" he would become "The Man"
MickBain · 1 points · Posted at 23:02:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Optimized for the iPhone X!
RuineBabines · 1 points · Posted at 23:13:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Boringbook, except it’s a social media site where you can only share things about tunnels.
chronburgandy922 · 1 points · Posted at 00:30:28 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was thinking SpaceBook but I like this too
Grape_Mentats · 1 points · Posted at 00:39:24 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why not Heypal?
currentlyquang · 1 points · Posted at 02:12:44 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
FaceID, very original
Ben716 · 1 points · Posted at 05:55:38 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
The boring space pal book.
Slain61 · 1 points · Posted at 10:04:04 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Space text more likely
ukima9 · 733 points · Posted at 18:43:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Or better buy MySpace at make it better. The name fits lol
Tsquare43 · 247 points · Posted at 18:50:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Rebranded as MuskSpaceX
tacolikesweed · 241 points · Posted at 19:09:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Doesn't roll off the tongue, MySpaceX would be the go to IMO
DeceiverX · 116 points · Posted at 19:31:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah, still too long. MyX (pronounced 'Mix') is clever and follows the trend.
tacolikesweed · 332 points · Posted at 19:33:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You know what? Let's go even deeper. X. Just the letter X. It'll be pronounced "Elon Musk" and the logo will be a flamethrower.
LetItOutBoy · 77 points · Posted at 20:10:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Found Elon.
Fireproofspider · 29 points · Posted at 20:29:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ah yes. X.com would be a good domain for it. Wonder who owns it and if they'd be willing to sell...
tacolikesweed · 11 points · Posted at 21:03:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well whaddya know, this is a fine coincidence.
nachog2003 · 3 points · Posted at 00:17:53 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Heh, it links to the Boring Company hat page.
Markmeoffended · 2 points · Posted at 02:37:41 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
We've come full circle.
WhosVenom · 3 points · Posted at 00:14:12 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
X.com was bought by Elon long time ago actually
ticklemuffins · 3 points · Posted at 02:58:56 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/woooosh
StapleGun · 8 points · Posted at 20:33:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon Musk actually used to own the domain x.com from his PayPal days. Not sure what its current status is.
vecima · 5 points · Posted at 20:56:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He rebought it recently I thought
Rolled1YouDeadNow · 3 points · Posted at 21:41:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Got it as a gift actually, I think.
cholman97 · 2 points · Posted at 21:53:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nailed it. As they say in Jerry McGuire, you had me at flamethrower.
columbus8myhw · 2 points · Posted at 22:09:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Eyo
I_am_the_inchworm · 3 points · Posted at 20:15:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How about MyX, then pronounce it like "Mike's", and so you'd be able to say "Lets chat on Mike's". Like how you'd say "Lets go to Mike's".
Ulivan · 3 points · Posted at 21:06:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Dude, you should check out my ex some time "Umm... what?!"
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 21:19:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
MyX and their associated dating app with Myx plug-ins called Myngle.
So you can mix and mingle using Myx and Myngle.
meinblown · 2 points · Posted at 20:24:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You guys are way off, it would be "MuhSX". Pronounced the same as his last name.
Superphilipp · 1 points · Posted at 07:43:56 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're right, MyX rolls off the tongue.
PM_me_yer_booobies · 4 points · Posted at 20:02:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Mice Pay Sex?
It's a front for rodent prostitution.
Khazahk · 2 points · Posted at 19:51:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ground Control to Major Tom!
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:00:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
MySpaceX sounds like a virtual hub to manage shuttle insurance.
XDark_XSteel · 1 points · Posted at 20:58:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm a fan of SpaceSpace
spread_panic · 9 points · Posted at 19:25:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is that Elon's signature fragrance?
logangrey123 · 2 points · Posted at 19:41:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No, MySpaceX.
Tsquare43 · 1 points · Posted at 19:42:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
so much better!
WazWaz · 1 points · Posted at 21:45:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Buy a website then rebrand it? Isn't that just starting a new website? I doubt the server code is useful.
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 20:38:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tbh I'd totally go back to myspace if Musk bought it and made it everything Facebook isn't ie. Transparent and trustworthy.
FlameOnTheBeat · 4 points · Posted at 19:38:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Justin Timberlake bought it for shits and giggles a few years ago. All they did was update the design and delete your old account.
Eustace_Savage · 1 points · Posted at 21:45:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, this really pissed me off. Not even Musk could save Myspace's reputation after that.
FlameOnTheBeat · 3 points · Posted at 21:52:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well all they really did was made a new site with the same domain name.
Eustace_Savage · 2 points · Posted at 22:44:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Exactly and tailored it to being music only. Stupid. JT is no Sean Parker (as he depicted in the social network).
jimjam112 · 1 points · Posted at 00:08:36 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Justin don't need no oldies.
eonsky · 6 points · Posted at 19:44:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
MySpace still exists? Holy shit
Doobers · 8 points · Posted at 19:04:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Highly underrated comment my dude. I wish I had more upvotes. I had a giggle.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:18:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
holy shit
cpufreak101 · 2 points · Posted at 20:55:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hm, Elon owning Myspace could be the revival it needs and the media platform the world needs
hotpotato70 · 2 points · Posted at 21:41:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Make MySpace great again!
film_composer · 1 points · Posted at 21:51:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The new MySpace is actually pretty great, but to no surprise, no one uses it.
SnowyPear · 1 points · Posted at 18:45:16 on April 6, 2018 · (Permalink)
MySpaceX. I like it, can I still upload my own music or do we all have to listen to David Bowie
shmianco · 0 points · Posted at 03:03:53 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
For the rich only!
evenios · 270 points · Posted at 17:49:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Muskbook, now more musky the ever.
DPDarrow · 7 points · Posted at 19:03:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
65% more Musk, per Musk
gemnyc · 4 points · Posted at 19:08:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Remember 1 Musk = 1 Musk
LordBiscuits · 2 points · Posted at 19:05:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk Ox Musk Ox not very dirty
Musk Ox Musk Ox not very dirty
Musk Ox Musk Ox not very dirty
Cleaning Musk Ox very very easy mate
cleeder · 2 points · Posted at 19:29:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
MySpaceX? MyMusk? FaceSpace?
Doyle_Johnson · 1 points · Posted at 20:05:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah he should breathe some life into Diaspora.
[deleted] · 45 points · Posted at 19:00:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
SpaceBook! My body is ready....
That-Reddit-Guy · 2 points · Posted at 19:34:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/sUScqBJgVw4
Matt463789 · 32 points · Posted at 18:17:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd use that.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:24:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
id make an account and post a meme. see if elon responds.
BarTroll · 11 points · Posted at 19:15:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd actually be out with that tbh. If for nothing else the guy's got a bit more credibility than Zuckerberg.
Tsquare43 · 3 points · Posted at 19:16:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think the dust-bunnies under my desk have more credibility than Zuckerberg
alison_bee · 5 points · Posted at 19:36:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
honestly, it’s a great time for anyone to try and present a new social media platform. people are so irritated with facebook’s shady ways, instagrams dumb as fuck algorithms, and the worst UI change ever... aka snapchat after that huge update last month.
users are irritated and restless, and want to leave but feel they have no where else to go.
Tsquare43 · 1 points · Posted at 19:38:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure Tom from MySpace needs some friends right about now..
slopecarver · 3 points · Posted at 19:23:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thud.com
MacDerfus · 4 points · Posted at 19:38:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They send all your personal data to Mars.
DerDood · 3 points · Posted at 19:26:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The long awaited new Face Race.
Tsquare43 · 1 points · Posted at 19:27:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Master Race Face?
hardypart · 3 points · Posted at 20:04:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We need an open source social media platform that's as popular as the other big players.
fishlover · 3 points · Posted at 20:29:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Perhaps https://diasporafoundation.org/
Mezotronix · 3 points · Posted at 18:49:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's called "Thud!"
fatcowxlivee · 2 points · Posted at 19:08:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I thought that's what Reddit is?
makzimus · 2 points · Posted at 19:10:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Stay away from Reddit if you're the man
broccolisprout · 2 points · Posted at 19:19:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
MuskNet online in 3.. 2.. 1..
Mijoko24 · 2 points · Posted at 19:24:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’d be so into that.
R3df0x15 · 2 points · Posted at 19:39:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
THIS NOW, quick tweet at him, apparently it works like that
Tsquare43 · 2 points · Posted at 19:41:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
too bad I don't do twitter...
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:04:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You say that as though Facebook fills some kind of role that needs to be replaced...
Tsquare43 · 1 points · Posted at 20:08:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
honestly it'd be better if people actually called each other and hung out in person and talked
66666thats6sixes · 1 points · Posted at 23:26:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's useful for organizing large group events. That's all I use it for anymore.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:31:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean... I used to think that but no it isn't. There's no degree of commitment to agreeing to come on Facebook.
66666thats6sixes · 1 points · Posted at 23:34:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not so much for that, but for putting out the word to large numbers (hundreds) of people, sending out updates. My local swing dancing scene and fencing club use it a lot for that, it's more convenient than any other option I've seen.
EternalPropagation · 2 points · Posted at 20:07:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Secure Scuttlebutt is a trustless alternative where you whitelist what you see.
Arthur_Boo_Radley · 2 points · Posted at 20:08:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Waaay ahead of you.
Ok, not 'waaay', but definitely ahead of you.
Tsquare43 · 2 points · Posted at 20:09:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon, always has a plan
Twist161 · 2 points · Posted at 20:29:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He can call it MySpace since he seems into space and stuff. Seems like a good fit.
ADomeWithinADome · 2 points · Posted at 20:32:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Abraham LinkedIN: Free The Cyber Slaves
HerLegz · 2 points · Posted at 22:13:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
From outer space to your inner beauty, find a community in E.M's sea of "Skwared"®©
🔳 Me
Circles got you running in circles? Why, when you can be edgy?
mickmon · 2 points · Posted at 22:31:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
One small step for Steemit
theplotofgarrett · 2 points · Posted at 22:45:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
MyFace, by TacoCorp
chewielewie88 · 2 points · Posted at 23:34:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
he could just buy facebook and then delete it
Tsquare43 · 1 points · Posted at 02:19:29 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I only wish
Geawiel · 2 points · Posted at 23:37:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You know I was thinking of this the other day. Once they get their proposed global net satellites up, that would be a good time to make their own social media site and tie it to that proposed internet service.
The mention of MySpace below would be perfect. MySpace improved social media with Tesla global internet.
clee3092 · 2 points · Posted at 00:18:57 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Jesus... I’m drunk and initially read “I expect Ja to come up with an alternative to FB now” lmfaooo
vmanthegreat · 2 points · Posted at 01:52:48 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Spacebook! (Seveneves novel reference)
JoyFerret · 2 points · Posted at 02:59:09 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Where can I sign up?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:33:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What we need is Craig book, made by the Craigslist guy. Simple, easy, and not just created to make billions of dollars.
tiberion02 · 1 points · Posted at 21:09:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Gotta call it FaceSpace right?
LongDongSilverAway99 · 1 points · Posted at 21:34:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nasa had space book for a while but it was discontinued.
your_power_is_mind · 1 points · Posted at 22:11:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No, he's solving real problems.
WallyPW · 911 points · Posted at 20:02:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We made a mistake guys
Tom was our friend
We betrayed him and we now pay the price
but_how_do_i_go_fast · 184 points · Posted at 20:44:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tom betrayed us when selling to Murdoch.
soccerperson · 25 points · Posted at 20:54:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, I would have done the same thing
but_how_do_i_go_fast · 19 points · Posted at 21:13:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Me, too. It created a foundation for the rest of his life to coast. He can freely seek out any hobby/interest now.
EmpathyInTheory · 15 points · Posted at 01:07:40 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
His Instagram is full of gorgeous photographs of exotic landscapes. He's living the dream. I'm glad he cashed out when he did.
abedfilms · 7 points · Posted at 00:11:35 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
He's travelling the world. So did Murdoch lose money on myspace?
schloopers · 2 points · Posted at 23:08:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
TomXNotch to release Half Life 3 when?
MrTastix · 1 points · Posted at 15:55:47 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
So I know it's a joke but that's basically what Zuckerberg did.
We all bitch about it but many of us works do the same damn thing.
duffmanhb · 5 points · Posted at 21:04:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You betrayed him... You should be happy for your first friend ever on social media to make 200million bucks. It's not like anything of value was lost.... Unless you really miss those cringe inducing journal entries of yours.
illfightyrdad · 3 points · Posted at 23:22:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Didn’t Justin Timberlake have ownership of MySpace at one point?
Jaffolas_Cage · 6 points · Posted at 00:10:40 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Pretty sure you're right. He co-owned it with Lex Luthor.
[deleted] · 20 points · Posted at 20:43:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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AHipstersWhispers · 3 points · Posted at 21:18:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let me slide in that #7 spot
cpufreak101 · 7 points · Posted at 20:58:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I never even used Myspace yet I perfectly get the reference
resorcinarene · 6 points · Posted at 20:52:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tom's living the life though. I like he idea of Tom and we all wish we could live his life.
lonelyzombi3 · 3 points · Posted at 21:04:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tom? MySpace?
Eustace_Savage · 3 points · Posted at 22:10:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tom sold out to News Limited way before Myspace's decline.
deleteandrest · 1 points · Posted at 22:22:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Everybody forgot orkut?
accountnumber6174 · 1 points · Posted at 01:26:13 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Orkut wasn't as worldwide as you'd like to believe.
K3R3G3 · 1 points · Posted at 00:56:45 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Get used to this comment, people.
I've seen it thrice this week. Easy karma.
Eagle20_Fox2 · 8373 points · Posted at 16:49:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah but we need the Kardashians to say something. Then you'll see real movement against Facebook.'
OculusFanboy · 3734 points · Posted at 16:55:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Very good point. They carry a lot of sway.
itty53 · 4064 points · Posted at 17:00:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Never thought I'd upvote that chain of comments.
I_Have_Nuclear_Arms · 1664 points · Posted at 17:49:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh! My God, this is terrible. Could somebody please find Ja Rule? Get hold of this motherfucker, so I can make sense of all this. Where is Ja? Help me Ja Rule!
-PM-ME-YOU-SMILING- · 709 points · Posted at 18:05:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
For those unfortunate souls out of the loop.
ryoshi · 264 points · Posted at 18:27:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
and then the time they actually brought out Ja rule for his political opinion
IpMedia · 135 points · Posted at 18:42:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I need to know what Ja thinks of the newly imposed goods tariffs, otherwise how will I know what to tell my representative? I ask you HOW WILL I KNOW???
keto-matt · 1 points · Posted at 14:34:53 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's a question for Whitney
Clavis_Apocalypticae · 28 points · Posted at 18:44:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
OMG I had to nope right out of that. The 2nd hand embarrassment was so strong it nearly became 1st hand.
SyzygyA1 · 5 points · Posted at 21:19:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There was also that time when Comrade Ja trapped the bourgoisie kids on an island.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 19:00:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To be fair, I care what Ja Rule thinks.
clee3092 · 1 points · Posted at 00:15:21 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ask ja about fyre festival.
FusionGel · 30 points · Posted at 18:51:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It saddens me that kids today don't know about Game Boys and Ja Rule.
AerThreepwood · 11 points · Posted at 19:03:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's been 15 years since Chappelle's Show and Ja Rule's relevancy, so it's a bit understandable.
And now Ja Rule Duets 2!
Walking-Dead · 6 points · Posted at 19:15:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Getting old sucks
oyster_jam · 4 points · Posted at 20:59:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Name checks out?
buttwipe_Patoose · 2 points · Posted at 21:29:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Blah, blah, better than the alternative, blah, blah
RemindMeToBlink · 2 points · Posted at 19:12:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And for the poor unfortunate souls
https://youtu.be/xfkkMHieqcI
GiverOfTheKarma · 2 points · Posted at 21:03:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I didn't know I needed this today
RolandLovecraft · 1 points · Posted at 19:32:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lewis Black had a bit like this about 9/11 and I find it funny enough to share. (Skip to 2:00 if you are that kinda person)
https://youtu.be/_1dRjPZncz8
AaaawShitBuddy · 95 points · Posted at 19:01:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who gives a fuck what Ja Rule thinks at a time like this? I want some answers that Ja Rule might not have right now.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:12:54 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ja will tell you the answers to your questions complentary VIP reservation at fyrefest 2018 for $5999. Cash, credit, and universal currency accepted.
nwz123 · 5 points · Posted at 18:55:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
When comedy is more real than life.
froaderpat · 5 points · Posted at 19:19:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He's figuring out what to do without his baaabaaaaaaaaayyyyy.
camsnapnchevy82 · 3 points · Posted at 23:11:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Read this in Dave's voice and still laughing
Mercury1331 · 1 points · Posted at 00:47:36 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
He's still in Fox news studio...thats the first place you should have looked.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 18:43:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes!!!! This is why I love Reddit! The best!
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 04:39:12 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was down voted because I love the above reference that was upvoted a bunch?... Hmmm seems pretty trollish.
[deleted] · -5 points · Posted at 18:55:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ja Rule is legitimately one of the greatest hip-hop artists of all time though
He wrote some of the most romantic rap tracks ever
ZZZ_123 · 56 points · Posted at 17:50:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We are at the precipice and this is our savior?
Holy mackerel.
radicallyhip · 37 points · Posted at 18:29:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's like if Gollum was the one who wanted to destroy the ring.
Ralath0n · 5 points · Posted at 19:12:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You can make a good argument that Gollum hated the ring and wanted it gone. It's just that he simultaneously desired to have it.
He's a complicated character.
IntermalAffairs · 2 points · Posted at 18:37:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
metawars.
his nemisis is Peter Thiels.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:00:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
nemesis*
Thiel*
IntermalAffairs · 3 points · Posted at 19:38:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
dicktion aint me fing gubna. all sorts of rublble buh yi gah me sorted me fink. cheers.
Computermaster · 3 points · Posted at 18:47:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Jesus fucking Christ we really do live in the darkest timeline.
DJ_Rupty · 2 points · Posted at 18:35:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ain't that the truth.
lostmyusername2ice · 1 points · Posted at 19:08:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They can't though... Instagram is how they make money
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 19:09:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They can.
They just have to endorse a new company. Honestly I'd be shocked if they haven't begun shopping around for one.
NathanAllenT · 1 points · Posted at 19:44:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If they did, it would be to launch their own platform.
A better challenge for Musk would have been to build a replacement for Facebook.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 19:46:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I had the same thought about them launching their own platform. Wouldn't be surprised.
[deleted] · 209 points · Posted at 18:05:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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deadlyenmity · 100 points · Posted at 18:56:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Kanye calm d-"
"YOU AINT GOT THE ANSWERS"
ArchimedesNutss · 20 points · Posted at 20:32:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
“That’s why I’m asking you, Kanye, I wanna know man”
“YOU AINT GOT THE ANSWERS”
doomsday71210 · 6 points · Posted at 20:37:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You ain't gotta turn up on me dog 😥
BrineDude_Gaming · 1 points · Posted at 06:18:35 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’ve been doin’ this more than you
whitebreadsandwich · 182 points · Posted at 17:01:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Largely in the back.
Archer2408 · 117 points · Posted at 17:28:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just realized their backsides are capable of moving stock prices. Hindsight 20/20 confirmed.
We live in a strange world...
desetro · 35 points · Posted at 17:56:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I didn't believe someone behinds can do so much damage until my brother show me a behind model with over 18million follower. That command some fucking power right there. Having the eyes of 18 million people is insane.
[deleted] · 50 points · Posted at 18:59:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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desetro · 6 points · Posted at 19:02:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
ya they capture so much of the market space that it would be stupid not to capitalize on it.
Peidae · 4 points · Posted at 19:44:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
IIRC, the Kardashian tweet wasn’t responsible for the loss of stock value. There were other factors at play. News sites just used the Kardashian tweet because its a flashy headline.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 21:16:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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BatmanIsSmartAf · 5 points · Posted at 21:29:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I linked an article. It was definitely Kylie Jenner, who is in the Kardashian family.
Iceberg86300 · 0 points · Posted at 15:50:27 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Read down a little further:
"Snap shares were already in decline after more than a million people signed a Change.Org petition named “Remove the new Snapchat Update” and called for the app to scrap the new design."
Best part was Jenner reneging her original sentiment (kind of) in a follow-up tweet, with Forbes commenting, "but the damage had already been done." Wonder if the Forbes proclaimed "entrepreneur and Kardashian half-sister" got a call from her broker reminding her that she held considerable Snapchat stock in her portfolio. Or if Snapchat themselves reached out asking for a little love.
Regardless, this all took place directly after a redesign of the product, so I'd call you both correct. Grab more readership with a flashy headline and partial story that wasn't untrue by any means, but the rest of the story goes over other stuff as well.
flesjewater · 3 points · Posted at 19:13:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fuck, it's like we're living out black mirror.
FGHIK · 1 points · Posted at 21:43:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You know there were bad futures before that show right
BlackDave0490 · 1 points · Posted at 18:36:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm going to start calling them behind models now
PM_ME_YOUR_HOT_DISH · 58 points · Posted at 17:42:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hindsight indeed.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:19:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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logangrey123 · 1 points · Posted at 19:39:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who's Rhianna and what's a stock marker?
staebles · 2 points · Posted at 11:44:10 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just one that runs on popularity and imaginary wealth. Happy reddit day!
Archer2408 · 1 points · Posted at 13:17:19 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Exactly, thanks!
MasterCookSwag · 2 points · Posted at 19:12:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That whole "Kardashians move the stock price" thing was complete nonsense. $SNAP fluctuates that much or more every damn day. Seriously look up the last two months of SNAP on a chart and I bet you can't pick the day Kylie said something. It's just volatile.
Doyle_Johnson · 1 points · Posted at 20:03:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In the large back
MulderD · 6 points · Posted at 18:21:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ha. Good luck getting a family that’s livelihood is based on its ‘fan base’ to disengage in social media.
MustachelessCat · 4 points · Posted at 19:19:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You realize Kylie said she was over Snapchat, and it lost 6% in stock
MR_WHIZ_KID · 2 points · Posted at 19:21:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've embraced this line of thinking.
In my former imagined utopia, everyone would use their critical thinking about current events and come to rational conclusions.
In reality, people listen to whomever they trust and don't check for sources. So I say, just load up the popular people with sourced, rational info.
AliencoreOverwatch · 5 points · Posted at 17:17:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
God help us all.
bacon_rumpus · 2 points · Posted at 19:58:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sway ain’t got the answers.
TheSiliconAnon · 1 points · Posted at 20:22:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They have a lot of weight behind them
zbeshears · 1 points · Posted at 20:52:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yea it’s all the Botox in their faces and ass’s that cause that sway
DiscombobulatedDraw · 2 points · Posted at 22:43:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What’s wrong with having cosmetic procedures? And if nothing, then why bring it up? There’s a certain irony in pretending to be above superficiality by spending your time commenting on what other people choose to do with their own body.
zbeshears · -1 points · Posted at 01:30:15 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lmao sorry man if my jokes against kardashian family hurt your feelings or something. I personally think people like them and the masses that wanna be them or follow them are a giant part of what’s wrong with society in the states. That family is crazy, like per definition. And I guess nothing is wrong with having cosmetic procedures if you’re okay with being not the real you. I personally would never date someone who has had a lot of cosmetic surgery like most all of the kardashians. And at the end of the day it was a joke man, so look as deep into it as you want but it was a joke lol not me spending my day commenting on other people’s bad body decisions. Just one joke.
loztriforce · 1 points · Posted at 22:20:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sad but true
HariettPotter · 1 points · Posted at 23:04:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The only thing is, the Kardashians don't carry much sway over the most hardcore, rabid Facebook users: our crazy aunts.
Zanford · 1 points · Posted at 01:19:34 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is sway the new slang for bodyfat% ?
magnificent018 · 1 points · Posted at 03:11:59 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's scoliosis
slick_stone_bridges · 1 points · Posted at 12:23:27 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because of people like you
programmer1853 · 1 points · Posted at 17:43:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Among the dumber populace.
Dishonoreduser · 3 points · Posted at 18:06:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
you count yourself among that, right?
programmer1853 · 1 points · Posted at 21:50:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't follow social media bullshit, I don't even have a facebook, yet I'm sure YOU do.
Rivers101 · 1 points · Posted at 19:26:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Maybe their asses
Mc_Lov1n · 1 points · Posted at 19:34:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Alot of sway IN THEIR ASSES
DingleTheDongle · -1 points · Posted at 18:43:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That’s so sad but ultimately probably true
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 18:43:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And diseases
Sugarblood83 · -1 points · Posted at 18:45:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is that what they get injected into their asses to give them that diaper look?
stackered · -1 points · Posted at 19:01:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
is sway new slang for fake booty?
bloodflart · -4 points · Posted at 19:18:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
really? insane, I thought they were mostly irrelevant
[deleted] · 362 points · Posted at 17:19:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Dlgredael · 190 points · Posted at 18:41:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who the fuck cares what Ja Rule thinks at a time like this? I don't wanna dance, I'm scared to death! I want some answers that Ja Rule might not have right now.
Annas_GhostAllAround · 75 points · Posted at 18:47:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I always thought it was hilarious how he tempers his criticism a bit (if that's the right wording for it), in that he only suggests that Ja Rule MIGHT not have the answers, not that he definitely doesn't have them.
LuisterFluister · 6 points · Posted at 20:55:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And he doesn't have them right now, he might have them later!
Annas_GhostAllAround · 6 points · Posted at 22:03:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
God damn good point.
This joke has got legs I’m still realizing funny shit about it years later
jesbiil · -10 points · Posted at 19:08:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean just look at Ja, he's got some answers for sure.
Annas_GhostAllAround · 17 points · Posted at 19:19:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Man, are we still slipping the Peyton Manning picture into unrelated comments? That's still a thing?
CptAngelo · 2 points · Posted at 03:09:31 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thank you for the heads up
jesbiil · 4 points · Posted at 19:26:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I like nostalgia.
langis_on · 26 points · Posted at 18:46:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ja has all the answers.
tootsie_rolex · 2 points · Posted at 19:07:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
so Ja is Batman?
E5150_Julian · 1 points · Posted at 19:32:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can you prove he's not?
derpfitness · 1 points · Posted at 18:55:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Where Wallace at?
dillpunk · 1 points · Posted at 19:09:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It ain't even a question
cboogie · 1 points · Posted at 19:45:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Bergen County, NJ
TechnoCnidarian · 1 points · Posted at 20:58:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In jail, hopefully.
DarthWeenus · 1 points · Posted at 01:40:51 on March 27, 2018 · (Permalink)
He is planning Fyre Festival 2018!
commandercool86 · 0 points · Posted at 18:38:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Getting mixed up with the law? Oh wait, that's DMX
GOA_AMD65 · 172 points · Posted at 17:46:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They did tank Snapchats value for a few hours by saying they hadn't used it lately.
XenonHerrDoktor · 30 points · Posted at 19:27:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Correlation does not equal causation. People deleted snapchat because the update was garbage, not because of her tweet.
It didnt go: bad update -> her tweet -> people deleted because her tweet
It went: bad update -> people starting deleting snapchat before she even tweeted -> her tweet -> probably a few more deleted snapchat.
drake_tears · 28 points · Posted at 19:44:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Snapchat wasn't hemmoraging users at any rate. Pop culture figures (Kylie and Rihanna) both tweeted negatively about the app, which affected short term stockholder confidence and led to a brief dip.
$SNAP is also small cap stock so its way more prone to fluctuation than, say, $GOOG (19bn vs 715bn respectively).
As far as I know, anyway.
white_genocidist · 9 points · Posted at 20:06:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, the person you are replying built a huge strawman. OP never mentioned a flight of users from Snapchat.
levels-to-this · -2 points · Posted at 00:53:37 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Bitch have you ever used Snapchat? It went to pure shit after the update and everyone complained. I probably halved the amount of snaps I send after that shit update
white_genocidist · 2 points · Posted at 01:05:58 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's great. But not the point OP was making, which is (correctly) that Kylie Jenner's tweet caused the stock to drop.
dahjay · 37 points · Posted at 19:37:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Rhianna also gave them a well deserved kick in the front muffin for being assholes.
XenonHerrDoktor · 44 points · Posted at 19:39:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
context for those unaware: this image was an advert on snapchat and rihanna called them out for it https://z1035.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/WTF-Chris-Brown-.jpg
DevinM27 · 18 points · Posted at 19:53:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
wow. snapchat's feeds are literally cancer, worse than buzzfeed
SuicideBonger · 7 points · Posted at 21:32:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who in the everloving fuck thought that would be a good idea
Tea_Lover_55 · 2 points · Posted at 22:53:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don’t blame her! I’m so glad I rid of Snapchat a long time ago.
DicedPeppers · 7 points · Posted at 20:10:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
her tweet -> people selling stock, was absolutely causation.
white_genocidist · 7 points · Posted at 20:03:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You are railing against an argument no one made. OP said her complaint tanked the stock. OP never mentioned mentioned anyone deleting anything.
It went: her tweet -> stock tanked, presumably because investors read/heard of her tweet and dumped the stock.
Given that it was only for a couple of hours or a day or so and had no lasting consequences, the effect of her tweet on the stock sounds perfectly plausible to me.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:27:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People were starting to delete the app, but her tweet directly caused it to drop
trowawufei · 1 points · Posted at 20:37:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The market has no idea how many people are deleting Snapchat until they give a quarterly report. So no, that's not how it happened.
NotJuses · 93 points · Posted at 17:03:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Seriously though can we put some pressure on them for this? They use instagram(which FB owns) heavily but FB not as much so they wouldn't mind doing it..
mustard_turnip_stew · 193 points · Posted at 17:22:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is the family famous for a sex tape and having cameras in their faces 24/7, right? Something tells me that Facebook's privacy issues are not a big concern for them.
NotJuses · 86 points · Posted at 17:27:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah but something tells me they care a lot about what people think of them.. it won't be a privacy issue for them, it'll be a publicity issue..
mustard_turnip_stew · 32 points · Posted at 17:37:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sure, but how much crossover is there between people following this story and people whose opinions can be swayed by a Kardashian?
ledivin · 38 points · Posted at 17:53:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd guess the crossover between people following this story and people following the Kardashians has a relatively small overlap.
I also think that's kinda the point: get the story to a wider audience.
legno · 1 points · Posted at 19:36:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Anybody on this thread follow the Kardashians?
theonewhogawks · 1 points · Posted at 19:44:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There’s a big difference between following them and being swayed by their opinions. The former, yes.
T-minus10seconds · 1 points · Posted at 18:34:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Did you hear? The Kardashians still use facebook! Haha those losers! Everybody point and laugh at them!
Oasar · 1 points · Posted at 20:01:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Their social media makes them so much money it’s ridiculous. They don’t care personally because their entire lives revolve around everyone knowing exactly what they’re doing, all day every day. They’re not gonna delete shit.
street593 · 1 points · Posted at 21:40:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Chris Brown is still rich and famous after beating Rihanna. Do you think using facebook is the line where people stop supporting them? No such thing as bad publicity for the Kardashians.
sold_snek · -3 points · Posted at 18:22:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The type of people who follow the Kardashians are the type of people who don't even understand what this whole conversation is about.
SwoleFlex_MuscleNeck · 9 points · Posted at 18:16:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They were famous before the reality show. Sports, movies and other media. Just not in front of the camera mostly
itty53 · 8 points · Posted at 17:38:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Eh, Robert Kardashian (their dad) was also a lawyer on the OJ case, and the whole Bruce Jenner/Kris Kardashian thing. That's how they got famous in the first place. The girls were born famous, really.
sold_snek · 15 points · Posted at 18:23:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Eh, people knew who Robert and Bruce were, but the family in general wasn't famous until Kim's sex tape. It took off from there.
BGYeti · 4 points · Posted at 18:52:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Technically Kim had some fame since even before the sex tape she would hang out with Paris Hilton
caninehere · 3 points · Posted at 18:38:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As someone who isn't from the US I had no idea who Robert/Bruce were.
sold_snek · 5 points · Posted at 18:59:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Unless you follow US celebrity court cases and the Olympics, you wouldn't have any reason to. That was my point. They were popular in their own right, but the "Kardashian" name didn't really mean anything to anyone until "Oh, the one with the sex tape." Granted, she looked amazing in it.
LeMot-Juste · 1 points · Posted at 19:00:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Robert was a famous attorney who worked on OJ Simpson's trial.
Bruce was a famous runner in the 1980 (?) Olympics who took up space on cereal boxes.
caninehere · 4 points · Posted at 19:06:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I know who they are now, but pre-Kim-Kardashian-sex-tape-and-all-the-ensuing-TV-bullshit, I had no idea who they were. Nor would most other people here. I doubt a lot of people in the US knew who they were either. Maybe they would have recognized Jenner's name if they watched the Olympics back when Bruce Jenner was winning medals but otherwise they probably had no idea.
LeMot-Juste · 1 points · Posted at 19:12:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
<shrug>
Depends on what people pay attention to.
I knew both long before the Kards and their pimp mama were a thing.
AintNoHoInMyDNA · 1 points · Posted at 19:34:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Those things don't really have anything to do with Facebook…
Rory1 · 1 points · Posted at 21:15:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
A billion dollar empire on a sex tape and cameras 24/7? Don’t think I’d have a problem with it either.
Hamronix · 1 points · Posted at 22:44:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Once the entire world has seen the inside of your vagina, you have no expectations of privacy left.
lazylion_ca · 2 points · Posted at 17:17:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's like boycotting McDonalds fries.
NotJuses · 3 points · Posted at 17:26:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
More like boycotting McDonald's locations but still getting it delivered. You can still get the same stuff, you just don't have to go there.
dahjay · 1 points · Posted at 19:41:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Way, way too much money to lose for them. They have so many beauty product brands that they could never leave the platform or they'd lose an income stream.
Trevormarsh9 · 4 points · Posted at 17:30:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
*See: Snapchat
therealsnakecharmer · 3 points · Posted at 17:42:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As much as I don't like them. You are right. We need more influencial people to follow through.
jnuts7 · 1 points · Posted at 18:49:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Will this profit them ? That’s the only way they’ll jump on board.
Myotherdumbname · 1 points · Posted at 18:53:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I feel like the people who would listen to them don’t use Facebook anyway
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:54:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They might delete their Facebooks, but no way in hell are they getting off of Instagram.
Brocktoon_in_a_jar · 1 points · Posted at 18:57:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
and his Instagram is still up
manaworkin · 1 points · Posted at 19:09:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They're too busy helping save anime.
Minneapolisveganaf · 1 points · Posted at 19:10:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon is to Silicon Valley what the Kardashians are to fashion and makeup.
Vlaed · 1 points · Posted at 19:15:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's sad that that's what it takes.
neuromorph · 1 points · Posted at 19:20:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram and Whatsap are owned by FB.... good luck getting them of these platforms.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:24:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If Kim deletes it my girlfriend will
ShreddinYoda · 1 points · Posted at 19:24:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Like they give a shit if their data was shared, their entire lives are shared across hundreds of media platforms not just fb.
mike_311 · 1 points · Posted at 19:34:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And give up their income stream?
DPSOnly · 1 points · Posted at 19:51:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can't Rihanna say something, she personally made Snapchats stocks drop by like 8% when she told her instagram followers to delete it.
Littlewing29 · 1 points · Posted at 19:58:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In the words of my generation: Up yours!
bryanisbored · 1 points · Posted at 20:29:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
but theyre mainly on ig/twitter not facebook.
CalvinE · 1 points · Posted at 20:35:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's like Elon Musk saying don't buy Tesla cars
Jeremykeyes · 1 points · Posted at 21:10:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't know if you're referencing this but Kylie Jenner literally tweeted something to the effect of "anyone like not get on Snapchat anymore" and their stock price dipped considerably
GuitarHero308 · 1 points · Posted at 21:16:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Zucc shoulda loaned Yeezy that billion. Now he's gonna get Kim to burn it to the ground.
ascendingone · 1 points · Posted at 21:20:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Seriously. Most people don't give a shit about SpaceX or Elon Musk.
dick-hippo · 1 points · Posted at 21:25:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People actually care what those people think?
cageyfanboy · 1 points · Posted at 21:37:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"I just threw up in my mouth a little!"
giganato · 1 points · Posted at 22:25:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
cue Minaj, Katie Perry and Rihanna to join in and Facebook is fucked!
sayogalo · 1 points · Posted at 23:09:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
kinda like how Rihanna made an Instagram post about Snapchat being shitty for making an ad mocking her/domestic violence victims and they lost millions in one day?
SnowFlakeUsername2 · 1 points · Posted at 01:31:25 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You underestimate the amount of Muskologists. Just waiting for Elon to tell me what to use instead.
GoldenMechaTiger · 1 points · Posted at 02:14:31 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why would they ever do that? That's where they make their money
HIVnotAdeathSentence · 1 points · Posted at 17:36:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fuck this world.
bmanny · 1 points · Posted at 17:41:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It makes me sad how fucking true this is.
VagueSomething · 0 points · Posted at 18:47:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If only we could just delete the Kardashians from this universe.
_rightClick_ · 0 points · Posted at 18:42:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
ya know, I think I'd rather they encourage their people to go focus on facebook. then maybe they can all go there to wither away and die a social media death.
smartaleck135 · -1 points · Posted at 18:49:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Snapchat stock was already dipping before the Kardashians spoke up. They had negligible effect, it was bad journalism. Most of us don't give a flying fuck about the Kardashian's opinions so why would the people who buy and sell stocks?
Turtlegalore · -1 points · Posted at 19:04:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If the Kardashians hate it.... Then I would be forced to like it.
lucidrage · -3 points · Posted at 17:51:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
She's too busy weebing out on darling in the franx to care.
FigMcLargeHuge · 2 points · Posted at 18:29:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you having a stroke?
Marieisbestsquid · 1 points · Posted at 19:10:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That was actually a legitimate sentence. As much as I prefer to stay out of anything relating to them, apparently Kim Kardashian posted pictures of the character "Zero Two" from the anime named "Darling in the Franxx" (that last word's pronounced "franks") and mentioned how that character is one of many inspirations for her hairstyle. Here's a pic of Zero Two for reference's sake.
And "weebing out" just means she's a big fan, though I wouldn't know if she is or not.
BlondeJesus · 15431 points · Posted at 18:40:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is what Google+ has been waiting for...
Edit: wtf I figured this comment would get buried, how did it become so popular?
[deleted] · 6403 points · Posted at 18:48:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 88 points · Posted at 19:09:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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pease_pudding · 4 points · Posted at 21:52:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What would the intersecting part represent?
Mine only shows a perfect circle
[deleted] · 5184 points · Posted at 19:03:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 2138 points · Posted at 19:05:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is so absurdly accurate. I was on the early wait lists, was so excited for it, then just... nothing. Never used it past the first day.
DJTechnosaurus · 740 points · Posted at 19:15:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Whoever designed it was too obsessed with creating circles instead of designing a simple functional UI.
[deleted] · 587 points · Posted at 19:28:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I also think they messed up by hyping it up, then releasing it slowly to people. You joined, didn't have any friends on it, then stopped using it. Then more people were allowed a few months later, and they had the same experience of having no active friends on it.
CircleDog · 241 points · Posted at 19:38:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes. They used the Gmail method but that's not applicable to a social media platform which relies on connectivity.
If they wanted people using it they should have integrated it better into YouTube.
CrossBreedP · 210 points · Posted at 20:31:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Dear god they tried...
Cassiterite · 155 points · Posted at 20:51:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah I don't think the lack of YouTube integration was what they did wrong lmao.
elios334 · 12 points · Posted at 22:13:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Pretty sure all yt comments are linked to Google plus?
CircleDog · 4 points · Posted at 22:37:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They are indeed. But they have also made a lot of poor choices in term of that integration.
CircleDog · 8 points · Posted at 22:35:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wonder what better means in the sentence above lmao
The_Adventurist · 7 points · Posted at 21:47:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Long after the moment had passed and everyone gave up on it.
ede91 · 5 points · Posted at 22:03:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is literally how facebook started up, they tried to use the very same model.
Valalvax · 3 points · Posted at 22:10:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But Facebook was at least a few college campuses at once I believe, so at least you knew some people on it
dd53 · 7 points · Posted at 22:13:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Also Facebook didn't have Facebook to compete with. Myspace and Friendster existed but most college kids in 2004-5 didn't have much social media presence. There was a pretty big portion of the market untapped.
ssfsx17 · 2 points · Posted at 22:47:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook was a big UI advancement over Myspace too.
Much like how Google was just Yahoo but way better.
ede91 · 3 points · Posted at 23:04:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You could get easily plenty of invitations iirc, I got one from my roommate while in university, within a few days everyone in the dorm who were interested were invited to it.
CircleDog · 2 points · Posted at 22:49:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's a fair point. I'd forgotten that it started off as a fairly closed network. Not sure that would work these days.
ede91 · 1 points · Posted at 23:07:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It worked because it was new. None of the other platforms till that point had the features it had. That made people interested in it, but I have no idea what kept them there. I am fairly convinced that it is not the deep and respectful conversations.
Human_Wizard · 7 points · Posted at 21:42:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Youtube integration was one of the reasons I didn't use it lol
ucefkh · 7 points · Posted at 19:34:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'll be there for youuuuuu
jtvjan · 2 points · Posted at 20:25:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Time won't ever miss a step
After you go through
You'll find us in the place you left
I'll be there for youuuuu...
FocusForASecond · 7 points · Posted at 20:00:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Exactly. It was like one of those sad Facebook pages people make except there was no potential audience.
Hobodaklown · 5 points · Posted at 20:11:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can confirm, had same experience.
wmccluskey · 2 points · Posted at 21:41:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And then they 180 and force everyone to use it...
Google has terrible product managers.
reaps0 · 2 points · Posted at 22:10:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Orkut was like that in the beginning, but since it was the "first" social media, it survived
brandonmofo · 2 points · Posted at 22:20:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We're still talking about the shit dildo, right?
thenotoriousnatedogg · 1 points · Posted at 23:25:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I thought you guys were talking about the shit dildo for a second
Vronsurd · 11 points · Posted at 21:15:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Kevin, Creator of Google+, here just want to say real quick, CIRCLES WERE THE GODDAMN UI! WHY THE HELL DOES NO ONE UNDERSTAND THE GODDAMN CIRCLES!?!? THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL! THEY'RE LITERALLY THE SIMPLEST SHAPE!
BUNCH OF GOD DAMN FACEBOOK SQUARES. MINDLESS PROTOZOA. GO BACK TO THE PRIMIRDIAL SOUP AND ROT YOU FILTHY TRIANGLE LOVER.
DJTechnosaurus · 8 points · Posted at 21:36:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Way to assume my geometric preferences! I'm a trapezoid not a filthy triangle!
/s just in case :P
CptHammer_ · 3 points · Posted at 20:31:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've been using it since day one. It works great and I really don't think you understand that the point isn't to get it to look like facebook. You can get it to look like facebook, if that's what you like. I however never really look at the "all circles" tab.
You're supposed to look at each of your circles in turn, or small groups of circles if they are related. It is set up for notifications of things you think should be important. I'll admit the default notification is pretty much what Google thinks you need to see, but it's pretty close to the newsfeed of facebook.
The home setting is pretty much a r/all of things you like plus things that are popular sprinkled in with things related to things you looked at. I ignore that page and use Reddit.
DJTechnosaurus · 2 points · Posted at 21:45:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not sure where you got that from my comment. I never mentioned anything about how it needed to look like Facebook. The circular design it initially came out with just wasn't intuitive enough for the basic user. It was pretty but not functional in the sense that the average person easily understood how to navigate it.
Though the bigger issue was probably the fact it lacked a -lot- of the social features that Facebook had already incorporated by the time it came out.
Akoustyk · 1 points · Posted at 20:39:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I thought it was very functional before. Idk what it's like now.
ew73 · 1 points · Posted at 21:34:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The mobile app is pretty slick. If they had an active userbase, I bet they'd get enough feedback to make it great.
KrombopulosDelphiki · 1 points · Posted at 22:44:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ultimately that's the failure...No active userbase. Kinda takes the social out of social media
kinith · 1 points · Posted at 23:48:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh I thought we were still talking about the shit dildo.
jozsus · 199 points · Posted at 19:08:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This was also my experience.
[deleted] · 84 points · Posted at 19:12:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I underwent similar circumstances
FisterRobotOh · 230 points · Posted at 19:16:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Really? You guys are really missing out on great features. No clue what those features are since I had the same experience as everyone else. But I assume we are all missing out now.
Pulsecode9 · 147 points · Posted at 19:19:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Any features it has that are really good, Facebook is in a position to copy by lunchtime, with a FAAAAAR bigger userbase.
The thing with social networks is that they're about the people. Google+ was like a phenomenally designed airport, all sleek and flowing concourses and award winning architecture... and no flights.
Jethro_Tell · 8 points · Posted at 19:44:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Like the train station between north and south Korea. It's a trainstation alright, it's beautiful, from what I remember, cealings 20p feet in the air with floor to ceiling windows. Sunlight dancing off the empty ticket board. No but tourists that came up in a bus.
Edit: smaller than I remember, but serves 4 trains per day so it's always empty. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorasan_Station
Apollo_IXI · 4 points · Posted at 19:49:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So basically a North Korean Airport
ucefkh · 3 points · Posted at 19:32:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was there taking flights on d a month
politirob · 2 points · Posted at 19:49:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep. They did like half of the work (creating a great product) but absolutely failed/made no effort on the other half (marketing it to people and getting people on board)
If you want to make a new dominant social platform from this point forward, you need to realize that most of the job and investment isn't in the platform/tool, it's in the marketing for getting people to come on board.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 22:28:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Remember wave or something. Nobody knew what the fuck it was fior. It was like it solved a problem that only silicon valley nerds had and it made them think it would ve great to solve.
AlkaKadri · 2 points · Posted at 19:29:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My situation mirrored the above
ucefkh · 1 points · Posted at 19:33:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Really Mr Kadri?
AlkaKadri · 2 points · Posted at 19:35:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
For reals Youssef
ucefkh · 1 points · Posted at 09:13:42 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nice to meet you brother or sister??
looking4u42 · 2 points · Posted at 19:42:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I, too, accomplished complimentary achievements within the same given time parameters.
Amish_guy_with_WiFi · 5 points · Posted at 21:42:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well what did you expect when you ordered a shit dildo?
Jmk1981 · 2 points · Posted at 22:50:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You were on the shit dildo wait list too?
jimmyf50 · 2 points · Posted at 19:15:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Maybe that was by design, I also had difficulty but if you think about it, facebook is toxic (my experience) but that's because any Tom dick and Harry can join, make it a bit more difficult you get a slightly better grouping of people however obviously patience is not what most people have nowadays days when it comes to social media which I believe is the cause of the toxicity (not fact checking, researching headlines, etc) I've been guilty of this too so I'm not pointing fingers
TwistedMexi · 5 points · Posted at 19:22:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The launch felt like when gmail was beta invite only and everyone wanted that juicy 1GB inbox storage.
Then it just felt like a waste of time.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:27:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep, dead on.
PythagorasJones · 3 points · Posted at 19:24:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I used it LOADS. I absolutely loved that posts effectively had RBAC.
The thing is, other than most of my mates already having Facebook and so being doubled-up, social networks aren't as effective when you intentionally post most of your content to very small portions of your friend group.
ucefkh · 3 points · Posted at 19:37:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What's rbac? And what did like most about g+??
PythagorasJones · 2 points · Posted at 20:40:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Role-based access control.
ucefkh · 1 points · Posted at 21:58:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We just call it ACL
PythagorasJones · 2 points · Posted at 22:27:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
ACL and RBAC are not the same thing.
ACLs are implementation and can be used for DAC, MAC or RBAC.
The use of circles implies roles. ACLs can also be made up of individuals (DAC).
ucefkh · 2 points · Posted at 22:41:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
ACL is the main concept you use for your own use case.
But eli5 whats mac and dac and bac?
PythagorasJones · 2 points · Posted at 06:36:31 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
What you've described is DAC.
ACL is less a concept than a practice. It stands for Access Control LIST.
MAC, DAC and RBAC are the authorisation models being implemented. Mandatory, Discretionary and Role Based access controls. Mandatory is not seen much these days, discretionary is seen too much sadly and is generally where things go wrong as it tends to be manual, ad-hoc and implemented by people who haven't planned their model and role based is the most structured and managed.
In reality most organisations aim for RBAC and end up in a mess as DAC slips in due to mismanagement.
ucefkh · 1 points · Posted at 09:11:19 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Bro I have developed apps with ACL and know it's a good solution for permission based actions...
Anyway nice talk
Btw BAC was just a bullshit acronym I've thrown there ;)
PythagorasJones · 2 points · Posted at 12:19:42 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Given I proposed MAC, DAC and RBAC in the first place, do you think that was perhaps a typo?
You never be heard of RBAC so I really can’t take anything you say with any sort of authority. These are universal and basic principles that are acknowledged across disciplines. Saying you’ve implemented something you’re not familiar without doesn’t do much for you’re case.
ucefkh · 1 points · Posted at 13:26:33 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Look you the Joneses I've had enough with you're shit knowing it all and being the best in everything so take down a notch and respect me :p
Cherokeejon · 4 points · Posted at 21:39:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
the shit dildo or Google+?
edit: shit dildo
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:51:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Cherokeejon · 2 points · Posted at 21:53:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
thank you kind humanoid
I_m_High · 4 points · Posted at 21:51:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah the dildo wasn't for me either
penny_eater · 8 points · Posted at 19:21:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Turns out that blithely sharing way TOO much personal info was something that really drew people to Facebook all these years... Lets face it Facebook is just the online version of rubbernecking at a car accident scene: everyone gets up there and slows down, each hoping to see something different (gore, heartbreak, triumph, humanity) and none benefiting substantively in any conceivable way. Oh and everyone behind them is mad at the delay but eager to take their 30 seconds extra to gawk too.
Take that away and theres no reason to stick around! Google+ was Facebook without ANY of the appeal of oversharing. And that, as we now know, makes for a really boring platform.
ucefkh · 2 points · Posted at 19:36:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So what would make it awesome and better than fb?
penny_eater · 2 points · Posted at 20:05:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The other thing that strikes me about what I said earlier: Google+ is exactly as boring as you would expect a service to be if it's inhabited by a group of people all specifically concerned about their privacy.
It already is awesome and better than fb (for a subset of "awesome" and "better" ranked based on the default sharing settings and data aggregation capabilities) but if you want it to be awesome and better but still resemble FB, you can't. FB has the market completely sewn up.
Quaiche · 2 points · Posted at 19:13:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
jeez, all like my experience of the comeback of megaupload as mega... how tragic
chepnut · 2 points · Posted at 19:19:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I get the occasional alert from friends that use it when it's there birthdays, but that's really the only time I even see/think about/or open it
techsin101 · 2 points · Posted at 20:28:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
between youtube profile / google profile / channel profile / google+ .
i was never sure what am i looking at
Tyrannical_Turret · 2 points · Posted at 21:02:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I literally only got it because my YouTube account made me have it
collapsing_sanity · 2 points · Posted at 21:02:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Dozens of people disagree.
-susan- · 2 points · Posted at 22:46:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
for the shit dildo?
Jmk1981 · 2 points · Posted at 22:49:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The shit dildo was so popular it had a waiting list??
swarleyknope · 1 points · Posted at 19:18:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Same here. And also “wave”, which I’m not sure I ever even ended up logging into.
Jedi_Tinmf · 1 points · Posted at 19:31:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Same thing here, I look at it once in a while and there is one friend who makes weekly posts about some beach diet she is doing (marketing) but it never has replies from other users so I am not even sure if anyone else is seeing what she doing there.
poptart2nd · 1 points · Posted at 20:28:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It doesn't even have basic functionality anymore. I was really pissed at Facebook a few months ago and was 100% ready to cut it out completely and bug my core friends to switch if I could just use something else as simple as Facebook messenger but Google+ has no chat function at all. At this point I'm not even sure what Google+ is trying to be because it's clearly not trying to upend Facebook.
hamster_13 · 1 points · Posted at 21:16:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is Google Allo for me. I want so badly to use it 100% as my text/SMS app but it just fails at that basic thing. Nobody wants to install a special app to talk to only a few people.
P10_WRC · -3 points · Posted at 19:08:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think GMail is crap too. i just can't get used to using it.
sleeping_buddha · 14 points · Posted at 19:10:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What’s so difficult about using gmail?
CapnObv314 · 3 points · Posted at 19:26:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Gmail has gotten better recently. I loathed the way they showed past emails on a chain up until maybe a year ago; they previously relied on indentation and tried to get all fancy when people didn't responded to emails out of order. Everything looked like hot garbage after the first response.
P10_WRC · -2 points · Posted at 19:12:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
the interface is just not good compared to other providers.
TwistedMexi · 4 points · Posted at 19:24:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What providers are you using man?
Add the tabs for promos, updates, primary, etc.
Anyone you know personally ends up in Primary, or replies to interactions you started. Things like newletters go to promotions, out of sight out of mind, and things like package tracking go to updates. Ez pz.
If that's just not doing it for you, maybe try Inbox by Google.
ucefkh · 1 points · Posted at 19:39:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Or try old school thunder bird?
TwistedMexi · 1 points · Posted at 19:42:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep I support that too. Installed it for a lot of old people back when I did desktop work. They were used to outlook express so that was the best route for them.
McLovin804 · 2 points · Posted at 19:20:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've used Yahoo and Gmail for 10+ years. Gmail is pretty much a breeze for me to use. Guess exposure is a limiting factor?
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:24:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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ucefkh · 0 points · Posted at 19:38:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nice! So you're ready to migrate from Gmail to a new better solution?
tFraze · 9 points · Posted at 19:12:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've used nothing but gmail for personal email for as long as I can remember, we'll over a decade. What's difficult about It? Is there a simpler service I'm unaware of?
ucefkh · -2 points · Posted at 19:40:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes normal mail?
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 19:12:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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ucefkh · 1 points · Posted at 19:39:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why? Be more explicit? What don't you like about it?
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 19:13:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I use gmail religiously. All of my personal email accounts are on gmail
blurtard · 284 points · Posted at 21:30:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why does no one seem at all surprised by the shit dildo
greyjackal · 172 points · Posted at 21:33:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's been edited
Feroshnikop · 37 points · Posted at 22:47:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It used to say this:
source: https://www.removeddit.com/r/news/comments/86m1me/_/dw6bqmg/
Lithobreaking · 8 points · Posted at 23:37:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
delet this fam
TeemoTheOverlord · 1 points · Posted at 23:50:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They knowwww
Lithobreaking · 2 points · Posted at 23:51:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
son of a whore
TeemoTheOverlord · 0 points · Posted at 23:53:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Dw papi I’ll never share your secret ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Valskalle · 25 points · Posted at 22:37:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why the fuck do people do this though, for the most innocuous things? The first time you see it it's amusing, but after trying to follow a thread I find it incredibly annoying, if I'm being honest.
greyjackal · 12 points · Posted at 22:44:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because they're 12? I dunno.
Lithobreaking · 1 points · Posted at 07:24:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
im not 12 i just like laughing
possiblynotanexpert · 3 points · Posted at 23:19:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What are you referring to? I’m lost. Shit dildo?
SeenSoFar · 4 points · Posted at 23:47:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let's say there's a thread about pizza.
Someone will post a comment saying "Hey Bob's Pizza is really great. Their double pepperoni supreme is really great and served piping hot!"
Then a bunch of people reply with things like "ikr? Burnt my mouth on it but it was sooo worth it!" And "My Thursday isn't complete without it!" And so on.
Then the poster of the original comment edits their comment to say something like "Have any of you ever tried deep throating a hot steel dildo that's stuck in the ass of a hairy fat dude? Nothing gets my dick hard like sweaty burning ass dildo down my face hole!" Now the majority of the replies to their comment still make sense, but just look like they are agreeing with something dirty and depraved. It's a silly joke.
In this case someone made a comment about Google+ being hard to use and then changed it to be about a dildo that looks and smells like shit.
AcuteRain · 4 points · Posted at 23:55:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Now that's fucking hilarious.
Lithobreaking · 1 points · Posted at 07:24:00 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I fuckin thought so. And now I'm gonna do it every time I get a high-ranking comment because apparently it either makes people laugh or get mad.
possiblynotanexpert · 1 points · Posted at 00:50:41 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Haha!! Thank you for the thorough explanation. Much appreciated
this_username · 2 points · Posted at 22:58:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
*typo fixed
Im_from_rAll · 16 points · Posted at 21:45:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's a metaphor. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Cjpinto47 · 8 points · Posted at 21:57:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Im wondering the same...Why would anyone want a shit dildo?
crypto_took_my_shirt · 70 points · Posted at 19:07:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You create the account to see it's boring then never use it again...
Gonkz · 6 points · Posted at 19:38:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I have an account and I don't remember creating one
crypto_took_my_shirt · 3 points · Posted at 20:07:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People who don't create facebook accounts can still be tracked by Facebook.
Google seemed to have skipped the extra creepy way Facebook did it and made google accounts have a G+ account for no reason.
FlightlessFly · 5 points · Posted at 21:13:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's because a Google account is the same account for all Google services. And Google plus is a Google service, so you have a Google plus account.
B1GTOBACC0 · 3 points · Posted at 21:44:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
On the Facebook thing: ever wonder why there are "Like" buttons on porn sites? They don't care if you click it. They only care that it's there. All those little like buttons on pages allow them to track what you visit, and by associating it with your device or connection, they can build a pretty good picture of what you like and how to manipulate you.
Spitfires · 37 points · Posted at 21:29:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
ive always wanted to do this but never get a comment high enough
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 21:31:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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NASA_Welder · 1 points · Posted at 23:01:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm late, what was the original post?
Lithobreaking · 2 points · Posted at 23:34:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It was dumb.
"I had a Google+ account before I had a reddit account and I still don't know how to use it."
Im_from_rAll · 1 points · Posted at 21:42:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lol, me too. I'm surprised we don't see it more often.
[deleted] · 49 points · Posted at 21:29:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Jarocool · 10 points · Posted at 21:38:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was like "is this a reference to something I missed"... needles to say, DON'T google it.
mirkc · 6 points · Posted at 21:43:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I googled it
IAmYourDad_ · 7 points · Posted at 21:50:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But did you Google+ it?
Jarocool · 4 points · Posted at 21:45:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well then you are lost!
ssfsx17 · 1 points · Posted at 22:48:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
From my point of view, the dildos are evil!
yyysssddd · 2 points · Posted at 22:24:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’m scared to google this.
RandyHoward · 1 points · Posted at 00:01:47 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Needles? I don't like needles.
AUniquePerspective · 11 points · Posted at 21:32:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The perfect edit.
randybanks_ · 18 points · Posted at 21:31:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Did this comment say something drastically different before the edit? I'm so confused about all the replies, none of which referencing a 'shit dildo'
[deleted] · 22 points · Posted at 21:35:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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randybanks_ · 13 points · Posted at 21:40:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Okay good I thought I was taking crazy pills for a second there
Edit: Motherfucker did it again
Lithobreaking · 0 points · Posted at 07:25:10 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
oh whoops
_zaytsev_ · 2 points · Posted at 21:45:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The hero we deserve.
cbmuser · 4 points · Posted at 22:04:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I still don’t understand and I feel like I am reading a discussion among teenagers.
randybanks_ · 2 points · Posted at 22:19:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
OP is editing his comments after the fact to fuck with people
TheSideJoe · 9 points · Posted at 19:19:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's because every Gmail account and YouTube account has been forced to make a g+ account but no one uses it
FlightlessFly · 3 points · Posted at 21:15:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No, every Google service uses the same Google account. Since Google plus is a Google service, you have an account for it if you have a Google account.
FandangleFilms · 17 points · Posted at 21:30:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wait... has this post been edited into absurdity? What is going on here? Is this a metaphor that I'm not grasping?
WhyAmI-EvenHere · 12 points · Posted at 21:38:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And you’re the first person I’ve seen mention that it is so unusual. Everyone else is replying “same here,” or whatever. I think we’ve been tricked for being late to the party. Definitely got a goofy edit.
FandangleFilms · 5 points · Posted at 21:39:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah they've recently edited it in a fantastic fashion. I thought maybe I was being really dumb haha.
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FandangleFilms · 4 points · Posted at 21:37:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The confusion I'm feeling is really quite entertaining, haha. Thank you.
AcuteRain · 1 points · Posted at 23:56:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Link it up dog.
MintyTwister · 7 points · Posted at 19:30:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Same here. I actually tried bothering to learn it but.. it's a fucking mess. It's so ugly too, it looks unfinished and lazy. I spent hours just looking for where you'd change your password, i had to Google it and even Google was unsure.
Lithobreaking · 1 points · Posted at 07:26:38 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
im sorry it took you so long to change the password to your shit dildo
crazyrich · 5 points · Posted at 19:38:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Same here!
ElMachoBarracho · 6 points · Posted at 21:30:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’m so glad you fixed that typo. It was really bothering me.
Lithobreaking · 1 points · Posted at 21:36:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
yeah what freedom fighter would use the word shite 😂😂😂
[deleted] · 37 points · Posted at 19:09:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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R0trime · 80 points · Posted at 19:14:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
no one asked, google
eddiemon · 5 points · Posted at 19:22:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
YEAH! Fuck that guy for trying to explain something that someone was apparently confused about.
[deleted] · 12 points · Posted at 19:37:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's a joke playing on the basis that no one uses/understands it, so only a Google staffer would be able to appropriately answer the question.
MustachelessCat · 6 points · Posted at 19:15:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You could already do this on Facebook.
Pulsecode9 · 9 points · Posted at 19:19:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not conveniently. Although when Google+ did it, Facebook had basically the same thing implemented in a matter of days.
MustachelessCat · 0 points · Posted at 19:24:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah, I was doing it in high school (before Google + existed)
Pulsecode9 · 4 points · Posted at 19:26:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes, it was possible, but Google+ made it far more convenient to do. And now it's convenient on Facebook too.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:44:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, but they were doing it in high school (before Google + existed).
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 21:37:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
and here we are frowning at you because facebook was college only for a short while
and now we're feeling old
old and resentful of your youth
you son of a bitch
Lithobreaking · 2 points · Posted at 20:29:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That actually sounds pretty useful, but it would be better if more people used it.
It also sounds like an easy way to collect information, but then again, all social media is good for that.
TootieFro0tie · -1 points · Posted at 19:15:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You can create categories like that very easily on Facebook too.
tanhan27 · -1 points · Posted at 19:36:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You can do that on Facebook too
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:21:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think I made one just to get pictures as a background of my Chromecast a few years ago and am completely lost when I've tried to do anything else with it.
Go_Fonseca · 4 points · Posted at 19:58:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Same here
BiteSizeRudy · 3 points · Posted at 19:12:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's okay, no one else does either. I gave up on it.
semvhu · 3 points · Posted at 21:34:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Dafuq didn't just read.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 21:42:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don’t understand
czook · 3 points · Posted at 22:01:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Quality shit dildo post.
Brox42 · 2 points · Posted at 19:34:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I used Flipboard for a little while just to read news. Is that still a part of it?
Cheeseburger_Turtle · 2 points · Posted at 19:44:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I just went and deleted all of my 7 posts from 3 years ago on my account.
rekhytkael · 2 points · Posted at 20:10:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can confirm. Even Google employees don't use Google+ unless required to.
Source: Worked security for a Google facility. All Google employees have Google+, and it is integrated into many everyday operations.
Lithobreaking · 1 points · Posted at 20:25:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Does Google security pursue perps on Google bikes?
rekhytkael · 2 points · Posted at 17:08:12 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
No, we had a good fence.
Bttrfly214 · 2 points · Posted at 20:20:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I have one from designing phone stuff but put all that on hold when I discovered Q. Have a great community of friends on G+ that have been incredibly supportive and helpful, but I can't stay away from Q stuff long enough to design anything lol! Honestly this is much more important and I can get back into design mode once this is finished, that is if G+ is even around by then! 😁
smiles134 · 2 points · Posted at 20:26:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've never understood my dad's inability to grasp Facebook until I tried to use Google+
BenKen01 · 2 points · Posted at 20:32:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Neither does Google.
b0red · 2 points · Posted at 20:34:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You are not alone..
Clashin_Creepers · 2 points · Posted at 21:08:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The fucking YouTube integration means there's a bazillion accounts and no users
Brilliant
turd_boy · 2 points · Posted at 22:12:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So did you maybe wanna meet up and uh I dunno go grab some coffee or something?
Lithobreaking · 0 points · Posted at 22:27:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I prefer prune juice.
turd_boy · 2 points · Posted at 22:30:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ahh the drink of a true warrior!
triggerman602 · 3 points · Posted at 19:08:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well you haven't really had a reddit account for very long though.
PMmecrossstitch · 9 points · Posted at 19:15:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You think this is their first reddit account?
triggerman602 · 0 points · Posted at 19:20:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Could be, I'm still using my first account.
PMmecrossstitch · 2 points · Posted at 19:22:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Some of us have a lot of different accounts or abandon and start fresh every few months.
potatoesarenotcool · 2 points · Posted at 21:29:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I reach 200 k and then scrap it. Soon boys.
Lithobreaking · 1 points · Posted at 20:30:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've been through a lot of accounts. Its a security measure, but I haven't changed accounts in a while.
CERN_BURN · 2 points · Posted at 19:35:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I only have a G+ account because I was forced as a condition of keeping my YouTube channel.
Lithobreaking · 2 points · Posted at 20:26:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Exactly. I wouldn't have one otherwise.
TomahawkChopped · 1 points · Posted at 19:41:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I work at Google and am instantly reduced to squinting pessimism as I guess where my next click will take me on a coworkers G+ page.
That being said, every bit of technology that was built for G+ is impeccable and has come back to underpin every other Google apps product - which is significant when you consider these other apps are counting 10s of millions of users as rounding errors.
Mr-Blah · 1 points · Posted at 20:06:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But it knows how to use you though.
hawkinst540 · 1 points · Posted at 20:11:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I use it to log into things without making an l account
TheGemScout · 1 points · Posted at 20:24:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit's lit
Lithobreaking · 2 points · Posted at 20:31:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lit as a tit my man
badkorn · 1 points · Posted at 20:42:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Maybe we all need to delete our google+ accounts. I'll tweet it now, make it real.
fenix_L · 1 points · Posted at 20:57:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I have 4 followers but have no idea who are they or why are they following me.
EskoBomb · 1 points · Posted at 21:09:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's their secret, everyone has a Google+ account.
Shit_Posts_For_Karma · 1 points · Posted at 21:11:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Same. Clueless
vgf89 · 1 points · Posted at 21:18:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
G+ actually isn't that bad now that I'm looking at it again. Each page (user, community, topic, etc) is basically a chronological Instagram-esque layout. Community pages have filters on the left side too which is nice.
Honestly, to me it just seems the only real issue is general underutilization. I might start using it again tbh.
vexunumgods · 1 points · Posted at 21:41:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What's a shit dildo?
Lithobreaking · 2 points · Posted at 06:54:42 on May 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's a dildo made of shit.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:41:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
wait. what.
HotpotatotomatoStew · 1 points · Posted at 21:42:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm. Like, I would fully believe that somebody would buy and use a literal shit dildo. I'm sure being autistic doesn't help.
Lithobreaking · -2 points · Posted at 21:46:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
yes I like a good shit dildo and people upvoted it
HotpotatotomatoStew · 1 points · Posted at 23:26:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well, tell you what: I'll mail you some shit. Save yourself some money on shit dildos, save myself some toilet flushings, everybody wins.
iamunseen · 1 points · Posted at 21:43:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wtf did I just read
Thangleby_Slapdiback · 1 points · Posted at 21:49:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You fool. Google+ was the shit dildo.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:52:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh wow. The thing I get to read on Reddit.
VonCornhole · 1 points · Posted at 21:55:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What chome extension am I using that changes some phrase in your comment to "shit dildo"?
Lithobreaking · 2 points · Posted at 21:56:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I only see hunter2 wtf u talkin about
Idonttalkspanish · 1 points · Posted at 21:59:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don’t understand. How was it password protected?
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Idonttalkspanish · 1 points · Posted at 22:19:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ya know, I was gonna say that I don’t think I’d even put anything designed to stab me in my vagina, but then I remembered we’re already talking about a shit dildo. Do you
Lithobreaking · 0 points · Posted at 22:27:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Do I?
Idonttalkspanish · 1 points · Posted at 22:37:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You mean me. But do you.
DongWithAThong · 1 points · Posted at 22:04:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What the fuck am I reading
Lithobreaking · 1 points · Posted at 22:05:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My güd story
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:17:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sorry, what?
-susan- · 1 points · Posted at 22:45:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I made a terrible life choice by googling that.
pacman098706 · 1 points · Posted at 22:49:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Damn, lve only had someone shit in my mouth, i didnt even think bout' havin' someone shit in my pussy!
5624283444 · 1 points · Posted at 22:58:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
wtf did I just read
Lithobreaking · 1 points · Posted at 23:35:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
a true story bro
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:05:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh. Okay.
greennick · 1 points · Posted at 23:06:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's funny, because it's actually become big in the corporate world for running internal networks as part of the Google suite. However, all those pages are hidden to the rest of the world.
Using it personally, I have a bunch of mates a and family that work for Google, so I actually had friends on it. It was still crap as 40 friends doesn't compare to the 500+ on Facebook and 800+ professional contacts on LinkedIn. It never got critical mass and there was never a big enough reason to use it over Facebook or Insta or LinkedIn.
13pts35sec · 1 points · Posted at 23:07:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I like that no one referred to these comment lol
loftylabel · 1 points · Posted at 23:24:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Uhm....is.. is shit dildo a thing?
Lithobreaking · 1 points · Posted at 23:32:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
you can risk your search history to find out if you like
nihilprism · 1 points · Posted at 00:00:58 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
glad I'm not the only one that calls it boipussy
Lithobreaking · 1 points · Posted at 00:39:30 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lol call what a boipussy? What even could be considered a boipussy?
nihilprism · 1 points · Posted at 02:13:27 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
my but
waltjrimmer · 1 points · Posted at 19:31:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I am in circles I like, but the one I used the most at once just has filled up my email with about two gigs worth of alerts I've never read.
I like Google+. It has its place. But it's neither Facebook nor Reddit nor Pinterest. It's unique. I feel less like it's never found its market and more its market has never found it, because Google+ seems to know what it is but most of us don't.
Throbbin_Goblin · 1 points · Posted at 20:53:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Same here
Lithobreaking · 2 points · Posted at 20:59:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Two other people have said that.
I'm not complaining, it's just an interesting observation.
a1up11 · 1 points · Posted at 21:31:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why. Why would you edit your comment and put this shit.
wazoomann · 115 points · Posted at 19:06:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just start randomly pushing buttons - google AI will translate your feelings
NotRickDeckard · 11 points · Posted at 19:12:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I love it when google makes a collage of a dead pet or family member. :(
oblongshapes · 19 points · Posted at 19:15:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The best are sexy pics of ex girlfriends... Remember this day? Yes, Google. I remember...
OnlyHanzo · 5 points · Posted at 21:43:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why are you making me feel these feels.
fenix_L · 3 points · Posted at 20:59:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How did that happen?
[deleted] · 239 points · Posted at 19:10:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 118 points · Posted at 19:12:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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KelDG · 111 points · Posted at 19:17:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Pinterest : Bait and switch with thumbnails as the bait.
I'm sure their servers are just millions of low Res thumbnails
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 19:31:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Galaxy_Ranger_Bob · 5 points · Posted at 20:04:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They include porn images to get clicks, but they ban almost all porn, and accounts that post them.
jason28 · 31 points · Posted at 19:17:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Holy shit. I’m glad to not be the only with this experience.
settingmeup · 2 points · Posted at 20:20:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's maddening when searching for very rare images.
gildedkitten · 6 points · Posted at 19:20:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don't need to worry about that any more. Google doesn't even give direct images links now.
jhmblvd · 1 points · Posted at 00:49:30 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yea hate Pinterest, show me the picture! I don't want to login
DeceiverX · 4 points · Posted at 19:19:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You can also type -pinterest into the search bar when googling something and all results tagged with pinterest will be removed.
xanatos451 · 2 points · Posted at 19:29:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
True, but that gets tiring. I only do that if I'm on someone else's computer.
themightygresh · 3 points · Posted at 19:17:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
More people need this add-on. What is it?
swarleyknope · 3 points · Posted at 19:21:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Couldn’t agree more. I loathe having to wade through Pinterest crap links when I am searching for recipes or cake-decorating ideas.
I feel similarly about Yelp - but mainly because it tries to force you to open the app to view the results.
texas_charm · 6 points · Posted at 19:20:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes! They are a menace and a nightmare since their IPO. I’m going to do the same thing. Thanks! I had no idea there was such an animal.
xanatos451 · 3 points · Posted at 19:31:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I use Personal Blocklist in the Chrome store. Just add any sites you don't want results from.
texas_charm · 1 points · Posted at 13:24:24 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thank you!
SelfDidact · 2 points · Posted at 19:19:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Luddite that I am, I just type in "puppies -site:pinterest.*" for example if I'm searching for pictures of puppies.
xanatos451 · 1 points · Posted at 19:30:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I do that on other computers that aren't mine. Simpler to have the plug-in on the browser so I don't even have to think about it.
arthas_LK · 2 points · Posted at 19:36:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
deleted What is this?
regreddit · 2 points · Posted at 19:41:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The fact that a can't search a single pin board in Pinterest is infuriating and makes me wonder what the hell Pinterest is good for. Use case: "You're looking for a Mac n cheese recipe? Oh, just check my Tried and True recipe board on Pinterest" it has 600 recipes and no way to search it. SMH.
ragenaut · 2 points · Posted at 20:03:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reading this post is like one of those cathartic experiences where I suddenly realize that thing I've experienced so many times isn't unique to me, but also at least one other guy on the internet, and then it's just a domino-effect realization of "oh fuck this is probably something that annoys millions of people."
I wish I could just turn off anything on pinterest in my image results. Unless I can and I'm just retarded.
settingmeup · 1 points · Posted at 20:26:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's when you realise how grateful we should be for those few, mostly unsung people who keep making small improvements to stuff that millions use.
Plott · 2 points · Posted at 19:44:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I love Pinterest. But I only love it when I’m choosing to use it through the app on purpose. I fucking hate all the google results when I’m searching for things
froggypants · 1 points · Posted at 19:23:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You can filter out Google search results by adding this: -site:(etc) before your search term. To exclude Pinterest, use: -site:pintrest.com
xanatos451 · 2 points · Posted at 19:31:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Plug-in's easier for your own computer.
cnliberal · 1 points · Posted at 19:30:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Which browser and which addon? Thank you!
xanatos451 · 2 points · Posted at 19:32:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Personal Blocklist in the Chrome add-ons store.
hypercube33 · 1 points · Posted at 19:47:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What plugin if i may ask?
xanatos451 · 1 points · Posted at 20:05:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Personal Blocklist
chewbadeetoo · 1 points · Posted at 19:51:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I just add - site:pinterest to all my Google searches. Well, whenever searching images anyways
scratchfury · 30 points · Posted at 19:04:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So it just looks like a login page now?
devilsmusic · 6 points · Posted at 19:11:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Whenever I need a quiet place to relax and be without any friends or fam, I know I can count on Google + to give me the lack of interaction I’m looking for
Compliant_Automaton · 6 points · Posted at 19:22:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google+ is terrible, but I love Google Keep, and wish they'd figure out a way to make that their social networking platform. It could kill Pinterest and Instagram if they made the right moves.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:24:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Compliant_Automaton · 1 points · Posted at 19:32:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Right? Add the ability to include GIFs and Videos, to make posts public or tag others privately, and allow others to republish or comment. Bam. Perfect social network.
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 19:40:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I signed up for G+ when it was still invite only. I loved the hell out of it. Then they redesigned and I left. Tried to use it the other day to read something and like... who thought that design was a good idea? It looks like a tumblr blog theme inspired by Pinterest, but then worse somehow.
We desperately need a viable alternative to Facebook. I wish Mastodon had caught on. Or Diaspora. Both are great.
cantCommitToAHobby · 2 points · Posted at 20:28:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is Ello still around? What happened to Diaspora anyway?
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:38:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ello is still around but they’re focusing heavily on creatives and it’s kind of useless/impenetrable if you’re not an artist. And they’re not very successful — most artists prefer twitter anyway.
Diaspora is also still around but it’s tiny. I think they have less than 100k active users. Mastodon is doing better, but they still have a relatively small userbase (I believe they just broke the 1 million mark a few weeks ago).
kurtanglesmilk · 5 points · Posted at 19:12:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google+ still exists??
michael60634 · 3 points · Posted at 20:50:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It still exists, but is very different from what it originally was. Unfortunately, I can't give specific details about what changed because I very rarely (maybe once a year) use it.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:05:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Huh, seems Google has a hard on for pinterest.
jrhoffa · 2 points · Posted at 19:08:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Pinterest, too.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:13:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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LivingstoneInAfrica · 2 points · Posted at 19:11:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They still have a chance, even if it's a small one. Revamp how it works, market it, play up the privacy angle. It's been a few years since the youtube thing, so if they ever want to get it off the ground now's the time.
cantCommitToAHobby · 3 points · Posted at 20:30:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's a tough one. A social network is bloody expensive to run. The only way to make it pay for itself is to sell user data to customers.
LivingstoneInAfrica · 1 points · Posted at 20:45:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit seems to do fine, as do Tumblr, Twitter, and YouTube. What do those companies do that Google Plus can't? Hell, Google apparently has the best privacy policy anyways, according to the Center for Plain Language.
tehbored · 2 points · Posted at 01:48:30 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
YouTube most certainly does not do fine, they're still very much a money hole. Reddit barely breaks even, but I guess that might qualify as "fine."
Xtinguish · 2 points · Posted at 19:17:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yea the original google+ and hangouts were awesome, now they just look like copies of other shit but with less users
nepalnt21 · 2 points · Posted at 19:20:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
holy moley i hate pinterest.
my favorite google modifier: "-pinterest"
A_confusedlover · 2 points · Posted at 19:29:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I second this, circles was a very interesting concept now its just garbage
vecima · 2 points · Posted at 20:44:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Did you get my Wave?
FlatFootedPotato · 1 points · Posted at 19:06:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That thing is still around? And do you guys remember that really bizarre time with Google Buzz? Weird days.
PMmecrossstitch · 1 points · Posted at 19:17:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Was Buzz before or after Wave? Were they even the same thing? I think they kind of were?
FlatFootedPotato · 1 points · Posted at 20:51:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Shit I don't even remember wave.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:21:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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DanCTapirson · 1 points · Posted at 19:27:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just like any other cool Google idea.
johnydarko · 1 points · Posted at 19:41:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The worst thing was that Facebook literally already had the exact same easy to use functionality long before it was even announced (except they called them lists instead of circles). It just wasn't made the centre of the platform.
axialclown · 1 points · Posted at 19:52:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yea it’s a terrible platform plus, let’s not forget that Google is an advertising platform first and foremost.
Be nice to see something open source, encryption enabled but you can choose to be anonymous or public with friends etc.
Minds, Mastadon ... few other platforms are emerging.
Torbook? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
U2LN · 1 points · Posted at 19:58:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah I used to love it. Now it's garbage...
botojomomo · 1 points · Posted at 20:01:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I had no idea it still existed until you just posted this. I thought it had died years ago.
Backupusername · 1 points · Posted at 20:05:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's still up!?
theblackveil · 1 points · Posted at 20:06:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’m not sure how it looks anything like Pinterest? I use it just about daily and it’s not super well designed but it’s way better than most people give it credit for. It looks nothing like Pinterest for me, either.
sesor33 · 1 points · Posted at 20:14:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They deleted the “Views” section too. So now it’s pretty hard to gauge interactions per month
albinobluesheep · 1 points · Posted at 20:22:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google+ was great for meeting new people, I found some very interesting people, but it wasn't very interesting as a tool to talk to people you knew in real life.
cantCommitToAHobby · 1 points · Posted at 20:25:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was one of the few weirdos using it, and telling others to use it. But then they abandoned the Circles concept and sacked the head of G+, and I no longer saw a reason to use it.
odraencoded · 1 points · Posted at 20:37:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Holy fuck, it's THAT bad?
Akoustyk · 1 points · Posted at 20:39:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I always thought it was better than Facebook also, but just nobody used it was it's only drawback. So I never did. Idk what it's like now. But ya, this is definitely the sort of thing they needed.
THE_MAGIC_OF_REALITY · 1 points · Posted at 20:39:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Classic Google. First to the market with a brilliant new idea, absolutely blow away all their competitors, and then immediately drop support and move on to something else. I swear it’s like Google doesn’t even want to make money.
PlNKERTON · 1 points · Posted at 20:39:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google should simplify to the degree of rockauto.
polkemans · 1 points · Posted at 20:51:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Check out Vero! I'm trying to get as many people on as possible. I really like it, but it has hardly any users. I think it's really promising.
infinitree · 1 points · Posted at 21:04:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google+ was a ripoff of Diaspora. Diaspora had some great potential if they had a chance to gain popularity and any kind of userbase.
Thats_absrd · 1 points · Posted at 21:05:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google+ hangouts are the shit
SofaSpudAthlete · 1 points · Posted at 21:10:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Also, isn’t Google far more infamous at their data sharing tactics than Facebook? FBs gaff is just the most recent example, Google has had similar one for many years, no?
Tyler_Zoro · 1 points · Posted at 21:11:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The problem was that G+ had a huge opportunity to re-invent social media, somewhere in the sweet-spot between reddit, Facebook and email... and instead, they chose to play catch-up with each new UI update to Facebook while adding nothing of interest and trying to impose strange rules about usernames.
They squandered what little awareness currency they had by being the "Google social media play," on being, "exactly like that other thing, but not as featureful and with far fewer users." There's some good PR copy, I tells ya!
G+ could potentially still recapture that moment. If I were Alphabet, I'd spin off G+ as a stand-alone Alphabet company, charge them with building a phenomenal conversation threading system, superior even to reddit, and then provide incredibly in-depth moderation controls to "channels" and market the service as a better way for companies to interact with customers than either Twitter or Facebook.
Once that's working and a few companies use it as their main way of interacting with their customers, bring YouTube into the fold. YouTube channels would LOVE to be able to get better controls over their chat, which at this point is a swamp, and often worse than nothing.
Once that's in place, then and only then, does Google proper start integrating it as a way to share documents and host Hangouts chats. Until then, Google users see it as just another website.
Add in some extreme data-controls (e.g. let people opt in to everything and retain zero data by default) and you have the ingredients for an upset, but that opportunity will only last a short while until the Next Big Thing in social media comes through...
Eggeeh · 1 points · Posted at 21:32:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
At least it's open source, fuck you!
thisguyknowswhtsup · 1 points · Posted at 21:44:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If only they stopped at cloud storage and email....
SuperPrower · 1 points · Posted at 21:50:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I dunno. It seems like a good mix between Twitter and Facebook for me. Not so persona-centered like Facebook, not so limited as twitter. I read bunch of tech pages there, and I experience no Pinterest experience like popups and limitations whatsoever.
Panther_X · 1 points · Posted at 21:51:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Was g+ ever anything?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:54:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google+ used to show me my page visit views, which I liked, but haven’t seen that in years !
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:25:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The problem with google+ is that it's simply too close to all our secrets. If google created a competing social network with all the great features people wanted but outwardly isolated it from all their Google searches, it wouldve been a great competitor to facebook. Instead they made it all connect then obfuscated privacy issues too. This just made it way too fucking scary to use. One time while sitting in public, i realized all my desktop searches were showing up on my phone too. I almost had a fucking heart attack. I had often given the phone to other people to use. If they had seen those searches, i wouldve had to move to another city or something. People need one button thats like "dont fucking show my desktop activity antwhere else" instead of having to chase this shit around many menus having to say no like 10 to make sure it doesn't show up. Nobody is gonna put up with that shit if they didnt have to.
Anivair · 1 points · Posted at 22:26:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's because everyone stopped using it and they had to cater to what was left of the user base.
loganparker420 · 1 points · Posted at 23:24:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
90% of the stuff on there is Indian now too. At least in the communities I frequented.
I_Think_I_Cant · 1 points · Posted at 00:13:40 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think it looks more like Myspace at this point. Digital tumbleweeds rolling past 7-8 year old posts.
sioux_pilot · 1 points · Posted at 01:17:30 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I assume Google has sold most of our information too. Why go to them?
kjbigs282 · 439 points · Posted at 19:00:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes, because Google has never datamined anyone /s
ajmeb53 · 250 points · Posted at 19:04:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
*Never been exposed the way FB got recently.
lanzaio · 13 points · Posted at 19:39:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can you people not be dicked to even scan the articles you're commenting on? Facebook didn't sell anything. They were just shitty at maintaining privacy in 2008.
the_mighty_skeetadon · 25 points · Posted at 20:18:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Something that has never happened with Google, because our privacy protections are incredibly tight.
Source: I work on Google ads.
SumoSizeIt · 19 points · Posted at 20:22:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, I do too, and Google doesn't give us shit for targeting compared to Facebook. If anything, they've cut back on what companies can know about people with users. <Not Provided> is the bane of any digital marketer, but it was a solid change for consumer privacy.
lunatickid · 8 points · Posted at 22:23:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google is mostly analytics company I feel like, they have their own data, and they sell their analysis of those data. Those data is what makes Google unique, and Google will do anything to protect the data itself, so their work can't be replicated.
Facebook tried to do the analysis on their data, and I don't think they're quite up to it, and ended up just profiting off of raw data, since people put so much of it voluntarily.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:13:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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TheSecondTriumvirate · 4 points · Posted at 19:19:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Pretty sure that what he meant by “exposed”. If google was “exposed” in the same way he or she would know.
TheKharmeleon · 1 points · Posted at 20:32:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
True but they could. Why bother?
justaformerpeasant · 0 points · Posted at 22:11:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wait for it.
BRUTALLEEHONEST · 66 points · Posted at 19:05:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's not literally their business model!
MintyTruffle · 59 points · Posted at 19:15:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The scope of data facebook has on you is laughable compared to what google has. You can go on google ans see everywhere you have taken your phone. Gps data, dates, times. It knows exactly where you are, records where you go, who you interact with, what you say, what you look at, what you look for. They know everything.
Edit: I get it. The utility of Google also far outscopes facebook. But again, if ever there is some leak that google is doing shady stuff, I don't want them to be able to have all that data. I mean in light of all this CA stuff, I think the less anyone knows about me, the better. And the less centralized, the better as well. I don't want Google Life.
ojw_15 · 87 points · Posted at 19:30:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They also allow you to leverage the data for your own benefit. I understand that it's an exchange of my privacy and information for the services that I get but at least they're useful. I don't mind Google knowing my location if I can go back and find out where I was at on 3/23/2011. I'm fine with Google knowing every detail about my schedule to the point where it can recommend good times to read or exercise.
That's my biggest issue with Facebook, Twitter, Apple, and most of the other services collecting my information it doesn't feel like a fair exchange.
SirBackspace · 8 points · Posted at 20:37:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hell, if Google can tell me the most efficient commute route and when the trains leaving I'm all in!
dj_pi · 10 points · Posted at 20:44:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was walking once with Google maps and it sent me through a mall. It really was the fastest route.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:56:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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ojw_15 · 11 points · Posted at 20:59:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yup, but I can completely understand why people would be uncomfortable with it.
echonian · 2 points · Posted at 21:12:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I turned off most tracking for google myself, as I'm not too comfortable with it. On the other hand, they link certain services to it that should NOT need it. You can't easily set a "home" or "work" address for example for use with google maps without enabling ALL location data, which is frustrating, because it means that to navigate somewhere I have to put in the actual address every time.
Which isn't a big issue, but it is extra busywork that seems intended to encourage everyone to use their tracking services at all times. I'm happy they gave me the option to delete my history and opt out of things at least, though where all of that data went before doing so is another story entirely.
jtb3566 · 2 points · Posted at 21:12:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
100%. I’m a boring person. I don’t care if anyone knows whatever about me. And in return, google has made my life so much easier.
JediBurrell · 3 points · Posted at 00:17:53 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
No, I'm fine with Google having my information, but Facebook can fuck off with that shit.
Alphaetus_Prime · 4 points · Posted at 20:18:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I at least trust Google to hoard all my data for themselves
MintyTruffle · 1 points · Posted at 20:46:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why on Earth would you do that?
Alphaetus_Prime · 7 points · Posted at 20:54:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because I think Google can make more money by selling exclusive services based on the use of people's personal data than they could by just straight-up selling the data.
acathode · 1 points · Posted at 04:21:18 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well...
Looking at the recent CA/Facebook-scandal, what makes you think Google wouldn't for example come to the conclusion that they stand to make a lot more money if a candidate X became the president instead of candidate Y - and then act on that realization the way companies always do, ie. try to maximize their profits?
It'd hardly be the first company that had certain political interests and acted on them - but no company before this have ever had even close to the same amount of power and influence that Google has today. If you think of all the ways Google could start influencing politics, it quickly becomes rather scary...
MintyTruffle · -2 points · Posted at 20:55:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why not both?
Alphaetus_Prime · 7 points · Posted at 20:59:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If they sell the data itself, their services are no longer powered by access to data that nobody else has but them.
SumoSizeIt · 6 points · Posted at 20:27:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wait, we're talking about Facebook, or Google? Because both of them have this data.
Google generally estimates what you look like to a search engine until you tell it otherwise. Right now their ad networks sees me as a 25-34 year old of unknown gender. Facebook doesn't need to guess, because users hand over their identity at signup.
OtherNameFullOfPorn · 4 points · Posted at 20:41:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The handover is the important part. The less you allow integration into Facebook, the less they know.
Google knows more about me than Facebook, because I've never trusted Facebook and refuse to use any mobile app they put out.
mrntoomany · 4 points · Posted at 19:50:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You can listen to your sound files from when you talk to your Google assistant "ok Google"
El_Giganto · 2 points · Posted at 20:20:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sometimes I look up how to get somewhere on Google Maps, right? Everyone does that, it's probably the most convenient thing any company ever invented.
So my friend told me where his new place was. Not difficult to get there, but the first time it's just much more convenient than looking for street signs.
Didn't go there again for like two years, but I figured I knew the city pretty well. Well, I was a few streets off and couldn't for the life off me remember where the fuck it was. Took me a bit, but I just went through all my Google data and after a while I found the search result. Street names were all related to each other, so I could recognize it but not remember it without seeing the name first.
It's just too convenient, though. Do I like them having my data, no, but at this point there isn't much you can do about it. It sucks.
SirBackspace · 1 points · Posted at 20:38:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I guess they could add an option to turn off some stuff, I doubt many people would do it but it'd bring good PR to them
ElectricFleshlight · 4 points · Posted at 20:15:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google is way better at keeping that shit under lock and key though, at least as far as we know. And even if you do something that compromises your own Google data, it won't open your friends or family to it like what happened with Facebook. You can't give permission on behalf of other Google users like with Facebook.
MintyTruffle · 0 points · Posted at 20:48:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Exactly. And we didn't know about Facebooks friend thing until it leaked, either. Why all the blind trust that google won't do the same thing?
MrMcHaggi5 · 1 points · Posted at 20:46:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, it's great! I can go back weeks to charge customers for the time spent doing jobs at their premises and recently my phone went missing, I checked its location with a computer and found it moving towards a co-workers house. I locked the device, put a notification on the lock screen saying "you have the wrong phone dork" and gave it a few notification chimes then satisfyingly watched as his car turned around and started heading back to work!
I've managed to do 0 good things with the data Facebook has on me!
i_nezzy_i · 24 points · Posted at 19:10:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Their business model is to work as volunteers to make the world's biggest search engine, for free
BRUTALLEEHONEST · 10 points · Posted at 19:25:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah Google is the world's largest non profit corporation!
poptart2nd · 2 points · Posted at 20:29:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The point is that Google is careful about your data while Facebook largely doesn't give a shit.
dimensionpi · 39 points · Posted at 19:10:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, but Google has good products and PR unlike Facebook which is a clusterfuck from the top down starting with Mark Zuckerberg 2020. People (including myself) are always going to be less vigilant against Google because they are good at what they do. (Not to say that this is a good thing.)
probablyuntrue · 14 points · Posted at 19:20:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But they're also kinda shit at product development, who needs ten different messaging apps
ojw_15 · 14 points · Posted at 19:24:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I will never understand this..... Hangouts is kinda good, Voice is kinda good, Duo is kinda good. Why not just merge them into something that people can actually use.
TheyKeepOnRising · 8 points · Posted at 19:54:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I suspect Google is managed much like Microsoft, where there are individual teams competing with each other inside the same company. It explains why Google has so many overlapping applications, and why projects generate big hype and quietly die over a couple years.
ojw_15 · 2 points · Posted at 19:56:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah that's exactly what's going on. Still very frustrating as a consumer, especially when a project is largely successful like Hangouts. Seems like it should've gotten the Gmail treatment.
TUSF · 4 points · Posted at 19:32:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Many software companies in this age take the route of making dozens beta-stage products at a time, and then killing off those that don't work out later down the line.
Google just likes to take things to an extreme, and end up making a dozen competing products.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:39:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Introducing, A-Zmail.
SumoSizeIt · 2 points · Posted at 20:28:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Jeff Bezos' gonna have a fit with that one.
SirBackspace · 2 points · Posted at 20:39:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google basically makes software hunger games.
hypercube33 · 2 points · Posted at 19:48:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
RIP Reader, that cool virtual magzine app, notes which i super miss, etc.
digbybare · 2 points · Posted at 20:04:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google is the new Microsoft. Microsoft is the new IBM. Facebook is the new Yahoo.
ElectricFleshlight · 3 points · Posted at 20:22:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hopefully Facebook fades into obscurity like Yahoo.
SumoSizeIt · 2 points · Posted at 20:29:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Coincidentally, I feel like 90% of the time I click a trending news article in the right column, the top source is Yahoo rather than an actual press outlet.
SirBackspace · 1 points · Posted at 20:39:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They're the new IBM in terms of quality or how widespread they are?
ElectricFleshlight · 6 points · Posted at 20:18:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google is fine now, but it is scary what could happen under different leadership in just a few years. There needs to be regulation now pertaining to what kind of data can be gathered, how it's allowed to be analyzed, and just how precise targeting is allowed to be.
IDC if Google learns my food preferences and suggests a restaurant I might like, I do care if they psychoanalyze me and learn my own subconscious better than I do in order to exploit it.
SirBackspace · 1 points · Posted at 20:41:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think that's a good middle ground. They should be allowed to analyse what they can use to directly help you (and publish the data) but not anything else.
FernwehHermit · 1 points · Posted at 21:09:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google had good products? They have tons of failed products, they only have good products because they shotgun blast their products.
IgnitedSpade · 23 points · Posted at 19:10:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They're actually pretty strict about who else gets their data.
Meanwhile at Facebook: Here's a giant pile of data. You can only take what's relevant to you, but it's not like we check or enforce that.
Tyler_Zoro · 2 points · Posted at 21:24:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook's datamining is not the problem, and I wish people understood that. The interaction between websites and advertisers ("partners" is the legal jargon used, though this can often also refer to third party data companies that aggregate that data with other sites and sell comprehensive pictures of what you do online) are the issue!
I don't care that Google has every email I've ever sent, all my texts and every document I've written. I don't care that they search through all of the above and build a profile of who I am and what I care about.
I care that they DO NOT sell that data to third parties. I care whether or not that data has ever been exposed to third parties by accident. I care about whether or not that data has been stolen by third parties. I care, in short, about how much I can trust that Google keeps that data to themselves.
As a former customer of Google's real-time bidding system where display ads are negotiated as you load a page or video I'm well aware of what subset of that data I can get my hands on it, and as a user of Google's services, I'm not terribly thrilled with some of the boundary-stretching that goes on there, but I'm much, much happier with how that's managed than I am with Facebook's absurdly casual handling of my private data, and to be sure there are parts of my life that I would never allow to go near Facebook for that very reason, but still go into my email, docs, searches and other Google services.
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Tyler_Zoro · 1 points · Posted at 23:22:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's never that simple on the Web. Very few companies just make a backup of user data and sell it off. But they leak this data in carefully controlled ways in order to increase revenue... the result is not exactly different, but it's sufficiently obscured that they can claim that they don't share such data.
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Tyler_Zoro · 1 points · Posted at 03:54:49 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
No, that kind of conspiracy theory nonsense is far too straightforward. The way major companies do this today is through partnership agreements that involve subpixel and cookie sharing, enhanced API access, etc.
argv_minus_one · 2 points · Posted at 19:16:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They seem far more competent at keeping the data to themselves, at least.
Changlba · -2 points · Posted at 19:36:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh you sweet summer child
THE_MAGIC_OF_REALITY · 1 points · Posted at 20:41:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The difference is google’s data never leaves their servers. It’s all used in-house for AdSense. Also they turn it into useful and free products like Gmail, Drive, Photos, Android, etc.
Facebook on the other hand tosses data to anyone who wants it and doesn’t give me anything in return.
ramk13 · 1 points · Posted at 21:01:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I knew Google had my call log because I use Google voice, and I am fine with that. I get value added out of it. Why does FB or any other app on my phone need my call log stored in the cloud? Its not an obvious use/need. Just an example. FB's policies are markedly different, it's not just about data mining. It's about being transparent, getting consent and security. Not saying Google is perfect either, but FB just burned a ton of it's trust.
Schnabeltierchen · 1 points · Posted at 21:28:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The lesser of two evils
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:51:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Data mining isn't illegal nor what's at issue. It's the consent part.
That said ive turned off several Google services like voice and location tracking. It cripples some phone features but it does feel better to know it's not always listening and tracking.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:19:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
At least they're just using it to target their advertising, rather than giving it to foreign powers and shady political entities alike to be used to create targeted propaganda (in the guise of news) that they then allow to be disseminated, unfettered, on their network, for the express purpose of destroying the very idea of truth and reducing the political intelligence and critical thinking skills of the average western citizen.
kjbigs282 · 1 points · Posted at 23:55:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That we know of 🤔
Jk probably not
chewielewie88 · 1 points · Posted at 23:21:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
well at least they might be less likely to do something as bad as this since they also have other ways of getting money. facebook is just a one trick pony
Avakiravi · 1 points · Posted at 02:57:16 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Its about illegally datamining people. Afaik Google is datamining you for targeted ads and not for influencibg elections and selecting what propaganda you see.
riderer · 1 points · Posted at 19:10:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
you forgot the most crucial thing - google dont sell your data to anyone, unlike facebook and such who sells your information to anyone.
FINDarkside · 2 points · Posted at 19:25:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Citation needed. Seriously, there isn't any proof that facebook sells data for anyone. The data was harvested for free. At least in a sense that fb didn't get paid, some of the users that took the quiz did though.
Vonauda · 1 points · Posted at 19:18:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Exactly! Google doesn't mine data from us like Facebook. Google is just a search and nothing more.
Damos_ · 0 points · Posted at 19:24:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As far as we know.
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argv_minus_one · 4 points · Posted at 19:17:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You can also block the
User-Agent.Da_Fish · 25 points · Posted at 19:18:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
God if Google had an ounce of sense they would jump on this and kick Google+ into shape
Great_Zarquon · 3 points · Posted at 21:28:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm guessing their version of jumping on it is pushing the "#deletefacebook" narrative from behind the scenes rather than improving their platform
You_Crazy · 5 points · Posted at 21:30:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I always thought G+ was never there to compete with Facebook. I thought it existed to match search history with user demographics so they could improve their search algorithms. They've never promoted it and over the years there's always been pushes to leave Facebook, this delete Facebook one has a lot of steam. But g+ still isn't promoting.
[deleted] · 89 points · Posted at 19:02:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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crunkadocious · 124 points · Posted at 19:05:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google sells to advertisers, facebook sells to hostile governments. Both are bad, but no doubt one is worse. Of course google might be doing that too, we don't really know.
r8e8tion · 28 points · Posted at 19:21:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Technically Facebook allowed an independent research firm to use their data, the research firm sold itself to a corrupt government
crunkadocious · 9 points · Posted at 19:23:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sure did. Do we place no blame at all on facebook right now?
r8e8tion · 4 points · Posted at 19:34:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In this circumstance you could place your blame anywhere on the data supply chain, but there are plenty of legal and ethical uses of data mining public FB data
crunkadocious · 1 points · Posted at 19:42:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So at least some of the blame should be placed on facebook, got it.
r8e8tion · 3 points · Posted at 19:48:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Place your "Trump & Co did some sneaky stuff to influence easily influential people" blame on whoever you want, just don't hold your breath on the legal system placing blame on Facebook
crunkadocious · -3 points · Posted at 19:49:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Okay so facebook is a blameless angel in this, got it
r8e8tion · 6 points · Posted at 20:02:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you looking to me to tell you what to think?
crunkadocious · 1 points · Posted at 20:13:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm looking for you to say whether or not you think Facebook has any culpability at all or if everyone is mad about nothing.
r8e8tion · 2 points · Posted at 20:25:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm honoured you care so much about my opinion. I believe FB has inadvertently put itself at the forefront of digital privacy and from that point I think FB dropped the ball on being a privacy steward. They should have vetted popular quizzes to align with ethical standards (i.e. Not meant for targeting political propaganda). I blame them for that. However I don't believe they did it on purpose, and they played by the rules we set (laws), so I don't think they deserve the barrage of shame that some news outlet (and some ignorant Internet users) are shelling onto them.
nickyface · 1 points · Posted at 22:46:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ok so you have a reasonable enough opinion, got it.
ABCosmos · 3 points · Posted at 19:57:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're responding like a child.
crunkadocious · -1 points · Posted at 20:13:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I ask the question of whether or not facebook has any blame in this and just get spin. So either facebook is blameless, or they didn't answer the question. I assume they read the question, therefore they think facebook is blameless.
Call_Me_ZG · 1 points · Posted at 20:08:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
At what point do we start blaming users. This was a first but it's not like no body saw it coming.
Companies are data driven now. Political campaigns are nothing new, they're using the data we willingly provide them. If it wasn't Facebook it would be someone else. Maybe I'm old and remember a life before social media but honestly, the users have to take some responsibility here.
crunkadocious · 1 points · Posted at 20:11:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Okay I guess it's their fault. No harm no foul right?
Call_Me_ZG · 2 points · Posted at 20:40:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Absolutely not. But completely shifting the blame from ourselves as users opens us to more of the same.
crunkadocious · 1 points · Posted at 20:42:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not everyone is a fully functioning rational adult and even those who are won't necessarily share all your values. We can't rely on the populace to just decide to share this opinion and somehow know what to do about it.
BurntHotdogVendor · 16 points · Posted at 19:08:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What "hostile government" did facebook sell to?
AmericasNextDankMeme · 37 points · Posted at 19:10:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The American one
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 19:15:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think the idea is that Facebook gave data to CA; that data was then used by Russian entities in regards to 2016 election
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:48:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 19:54:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
A far as I know, CA posed as an educational group but was actually just a proxy for political think tanks to use data to manipulate users into voting a certain way. Names and companies have already been connected. Targeting people for voting isn’t anything new, but I think the data breach (scraping private messages) and other aspects involved in this scandal give it nuance. The narrative I’m seeing is that CA was contracted by people related to the trump campaign and Russia in order to target susceptible voters. I hope I’m semi accurate in my recounting, but do your own research.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:10:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 27 points · Posted at 19:14:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They don't even sell the data. Advertisers pay for their ads to be applied to Google's ad profiles. But petty details won't stop someone like OP from wildly speculating.
chaos_a · 5 points · Posted at 19:50:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They pretty much admit all of that in their privacy policy
And
Edit: How their ads work
crunkadocious · 3 points · Posted at 19:14:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't mean data as in bandwidth for ad hosting, I mean information about users.
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crunkadocious · 3 points · Posted at 19:16:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't think you see the problem with selling personal information, and I don't think I can help you see the problem if you think it's totally fine.
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crunkadocious · 4 points · Posted at 19:21:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't think you see the problem with selling personal information, and I don't think I can help you see the problem if you think it's totally fine.
dahjay · 1 points · Posted at 19:50:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tell that to any of the three credit bureaus who sell data on individuals on a daily basis. Plus it's not like you can apply for a credit card with the data found on FB as opposed to Equifax.
Because of the connections to the US presidency and brexit, this is making headlines but in reality all CA did was cull a bunch of profiles with similar characteristics and then fed their feed with ads to drive behavior. They didn't open up a $100K line of credit and then default payment.
crunkadocious · 0 points · Posted at 19:52:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah I don't like that stuff either. More than one thing can be bad a time buddy!
dahjay · 1 points · Posted at 20:16:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah I hear ya. I just think this narrative is filled with loud voices and little information. I'm not saying this about you personally.
ben76326 · 1 points · Posted at 22:18:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To me it's an issue of privacy. Because what we do online, how and what we talk about, and what things we are up to is all fairly personal information. So having a company constantly collecting it is unsettling at the very least, even if it provides us with arguably a better online experience.
And while these companies definitely have great security, the potential of people breaking into the system so strangers would have your info is an even more worry some prospect.
BulletBilll · 2 points · Posted at 19:13:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because advertisers are horrible people?
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BulletBilll · -4 points · Posted at 19:17:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Come on, do I really need to?
I mean it's quite obvious the terrible things they cause.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:19:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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BulletBilll · -2 points · Posted at 19:21:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You wouldn't pay for every search, just have it all FOSS. Have people engage and participate in the development of the web.
Carlose175 · 7 points · Posted at 19:23:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Doesn't answer who'd pay for the infrastructure of a search engine.
BulletBilll · 2 points · Posted at 19:31:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Same people who pay for FOSS projects, donations.
Carlose175 · 1 points · Posted at 20:04:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think it's one of those things that if it could happen, it should've happened. But it hasn't.
nanatenshi · 1 points · Posted at 20:07:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Donations won't run big infrastructure like Facebook, Google or Youtube.
BulletBilll · 1 points · Posted at 20:14:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's how you get more distributed solutions.
puabie · 2 points · Posted at 19:48:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
• has widgets you want to sell
"I know! I'll advertise my widgets and persuade people to buy them, using a variety of persuasive techniques! Thanks, sociology research!"
• wants to target a certain group online, since your widgets are made with that group in mind
"Hmm, I wonder if there's a large corporation that owns this data so I don't have to that work myself."
• sees Google Ads and uses them
"Yay! Now a bunch of people are seeing ads for my widgets, and I'm making a profit. The system works!"
• has no say in how Google chooses to use that data on their own, who they sell it to, and whether they cooperate with government requests, and your only concern is drawing a profit on your product and buying a nice house or something
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What horrible people, am I right.
BulletBilll · -2 points · Posted at 19:51:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I didn't know what they were doing! Like the "Just following orders" defense. It didn't work in Nuremberg.
PM_ME_YOUR_PROFANITY · 1 points · Posted at 21:26:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Both sell to the highest bidder, don't fool yourself.
misko91 · 1 points · Posted at 00:43:13 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
On the bright side of all this, Google's "Don't be evil" motto has never had lower standards to compete with!
Avakiravi · 1 points · Posted at 03:01:36 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google also - in a way - protects your privacy. Google knows everything - the people they sell data too for targeted advertising get anonmised data and they will make deals like (simplified): "those 40% of german users that google about animals should get my zoo royale ads"
sorenant · -5 points · Posted at 19:09:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google is behind both Putin and Deep State, also Zionists and Islamic Extremists. Some say they have the Templars in their payroll.
Kaj44 · 15 points · Posted at 19:11:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
might wanna take off the tinfoil hat
BulletBilll · 8 points · Posted at 19:14:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Kind of hard when it's grafted on.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:17:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's not for me; it's there to protect all of you from my radioactive mind-waves
argv_minus_one · 1 points · Posted at 19:19:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thanks, Obama.
sorenant · 4 points · Posted at 19:19:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tell you more, they also got in their hands the Seal of Solomon and through its power they kidnapped 2pac and is holding him prisoner.
Kaj44 · 3 points · Posted at 19:23:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The allspark in transformers is actually a real google created artifact. Pyramids are google’s ancient offices
sorenant · 3 points · Posted at 19:34:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Damn, that just makes sense. Since the Lobsters of Ganymede found the Sword of Grayskull in the Qin Mausoleum I've been looking for potential headquarters to Google's operations but I've missed the Pyramids! Right under my nose. In hindsight it's quite obvious, it's one of the few power locus in the world where the ley lines doesn't align with those of the Qin and the only one where Galactic Hitchhikers are not allowed in, a perfect defensive position!
prismsplitter · 3 points · Posted at 19:20:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But not the Illuminati. They're all about twitter. That All seeing eye they like to use? They have eyes all over the world thanks to twitter.
sorenant · 2 points · Posted at 19:26:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The Illuminati is just a front to higher dimensional beings that used the ENIAC computer to reach our world and has since been manipulating human affairs to fight the Google Overmind through careful insertion of commandos as informorphs.
Amadameus · -2 points · Posted at 19:14:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Do we seriously think that Google is only selling to advertisers?
They're holding Gmail accounts on practically everyone these days. Let's not pretend they don't have as much if not more data to offer governments than Facebook - they're just quieter about it.
crunkadocious · 5 points · Posted at 19:16:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We can't really prove anything else, we have proof from facebook now.
tockef · 3 points · Posted at 21:28:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's a gross misunderstanding of how Google operates. Advertisers bid on keywords and Google matches that to users. There is never a direct 1:1 user data:advertisers connection.
That's immensely different than the ongoing FB stories.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:53:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No. As far as we know Google hasn't done anything this illegal. Maybe we'll find out it has but for now you can't group all tech companies together.
I did notice Google sent me a privacy checkup the day after the news broke. They know they're being watched carefully at the moment.
merryman1 · 1 points · Posted at 19:10:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I do find it fun how quiet they've been through this whole debacle.
The-Bunyip · 1 points · Posted at 00:52:10 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
There is a single, HUGE difference - Google doesn't personalize the data - and you can turn absolutely everything off - no matter what.
youareadildomadam · 0 points · Posted at 19:40:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Worse. Much much worse. They are far far more integrated than Facebook into our lives. They own major fiber optic hubs and backboce across the US, they hold half of everyone's emails, know everyone's search history, track them via ad-networks, and they are present on almost everyone's phone.
Google is literally the most dangerous company in America.
The only reason this latest drama isn't about them is because they are too well connected to get caught.
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 19:12:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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You_Crazy · 3 points · Posted at 21:32:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I loved Google Wave. I was able to get one project completed with about five coworkers through wave. Then it closed.
mercurialsaliva · 4 points · Posted at 19:24:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Forgot that existed
maverick340 · 3 points · Posted at 18:59:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
All according to the plan.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:52:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google+ still exists?
canIbeMichael · 4 points · Posted at 18:59:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google + failed by not getting rid of their exclusive access fast enough.
_Middlefinger_ · 4 points · Posted at 19:06:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just a shame Google+ has got worse and worse with every change, Its unusable garbage now.
SPUNKFLAP · 1 points · Posted at 19:06:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes!! Time to unleash teenagers and furry porn on the world.
j0s3x · 1 points · Posted at 19:15:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sure, let's change one data farming corporation for another one
Sluisifer · 1 points · Posted at 19:19:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Anyone else get a G+ notification for the first time in years a day or two ago?
Michaelbama · 1 points · Posted at 19:19:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No thanks, wouldn't want someone to snap a photo of me hunting or something, then get banned for having a gun in one of my pictures.
gokalex · 1 points · Posted at 19:23:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I used to use it for hangouts, the first version was great, it could run third party apps shared with the other people in the hangout, it was our go-to way to play D&D with my online friends, good videochat+virtual board (with roll20 app)
Then after a few years the app started acting strange, not working well, and then hangouts 2 came out and removed the support for the apps, a shame... stopped using it after that
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:28:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
yeah if only it wasn't a retarded mess it might be a viable platform
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:33:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If those dudes rebranded and relaunched today they would do so good
Anomaly1134 · 1 points · Posted at 19:37:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Signed up for one when it came out, gave it about 5 minutes, then went back to facebook lol.
islamitinthecardoor · 1 points · Posted at 19:40:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I got it when YouTube made you and that was about the extent of my usage.
i_need_help_bro · 1 points · Posted at 19:41:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google is even a bigger brother
crowseldon · 1 points · Posted at 19:46:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google+ is shit and I usually like Google products.
NaughtyNinja69 · 1 points · Posted at 19:50:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What is Google+
digbybare · 1 points · Posted at 19:52:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Jesus, does that still exist? I thought it went the way of Google Wave...
StillMind2010 · 1 points · Posted at 19:59:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is Google+ still around? Wow.
Jawesome_ · 1 points · Posted at 20:02:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Pretty sure they’ll just do the same thing.
Username_Tree · 1 points · Posted at 20:08:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As if the masses are going to flock to Google+
rhialto · 1 points · Posted at 20:09:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/abandonedporn
ErgoNonSim · 1 points · Posted at 20:10:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And bitcoin. This is good.
flick_to_the_dick · 1 points · Posted at 20:12:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Might be a good idea for Snapchat to step in and expand its services
IllegalThings · 1 points · Posted at 20:13:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As someone who used Facebook heavily for a period of time in my life, but found that my usage has waned over the past few years... I've deleted my Facebook account, and have no intention on signing up for any other social network to replace it. Just not something that interests me anymore.
Group chat apps on my phone on the other hand... thats how I communicate with close friends these days. Based on current trends with companies these days, I'm guessing thats where the younger generation is moving these days as well.
DamntheTrains · 1 points · Posted at 20:17:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Kind of hilarious that people think other social media sites would be different.
It's all a matter of time--esp. for free services.
danki2000 · 1 points · Posted at 20:28:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I used to love google+. It's totally just a waste of memory space now
TheKharmeleon · 1 points · Posted at 20:32:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’m not about to delete one account just to make another one just like it though. I doubt many people will move to Google+.
Azuretrickster · 1 points · Posted at 20:43:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What is Google+ ?
jomiran · 1 points · Posted at 20:44:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They've gotten so many new users that the system is crawling at times.
desidaaru · 1 points · Posted at 20:45:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is it still up?
Banaan2001 · 1 points · Posted at 20:48:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What’s Google+? Asking the real question
cpufreak101 · 1 points · Posted at 20:51:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm still a regular of G+, but the platform has been greatly declining. Full of spambots and pornbots, and overall site performance took a crap, sometimes it feels like you're loading over dial up
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:59:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I haven't had a Facebook account in a really long time and I've had a Google account for years and I've never been interested in participating in Google Plus, done just fine without it
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:01:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No, this is what Rolodex has been waiting all these years in the shadows for, to rise from the ashes like a phoenix
ascendingone · 1 points · Posted at 21:08:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Except Google+ is shit and everyone forgot about it 6 months after it was released.
SunburyStudios · 1 points · Posted at 21:08:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I used to work at google. They couldn't even get the employees to use it. It was an inside joke, just like glass was. Lol
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:12:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lol if anyone thinks that Twitter, google, or Reddit doesn't sell data about users and demographics, then this whole Facebook invasion of privacy thing went right over your heads. Facebook and the others have been doing this for a LONG time. I just thought everyone knew and accepted it by now. Must be bc a Republican used the data this time. That's the line?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:18:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wow I totally forgot about Google+...
Intrepid00 · 1 points · Posted at 21:35:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They won't need to drive around gobbling up wifi data now.
Zacher8 · 1 points · Posted at 21:36:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I doubt it. This erodes trust in all social media.
henrikose · 1 points · Posted at 21:43:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sorry I have like a web tourette. Every time someone mentioned Google+ I have to post this: https://vimeo.com/79044726
The_Bigg_D · 1 points · Posted at 01:00:21 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tourette’s isn’t a plural word.
MrUnoDosTres · 1 points · Posted at 21:46:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What is a Google+? :P
AnimeLord1016 · 1 points · Posted at 21:51:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't understand how Google+ isn't the most popular one. If you have a Google or YouTube account you have a + account. Virtually everyone living in a first world country has a + account. It has the highest number of users, it only makes sense it'd be the most popular.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:12:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes, why share your data with multiple companies, when you can share it with one large one. Cut out the middle man.
joevsyou · 1 points · Posted at 22:13:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I would place my soul on google + never making it.
They fucked that up when they tried to shove it down every user on their other services.
glitch177k · 1 points · Posted at 22:16:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It still exists!? I had no idea...
cuteman · 1 points · Posted at 22:19:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you don't like how much info Facebook has on you you're going to hate how much Google has.
M00se1978 · 1 points · Posted at 22:26:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The company I work for switched to g suite last July. Google is now balls deep into us. They are forcing us to use google+ for company news etc, the executives are pushing it onto us it’s just sad.
jaa5102 · 1 points · Posted at 22:50:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Do you think Google+ would gain traction if a few people with Elon Musk sized followings moved to it?
redditproha · 1 points · Posted at 23:28:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It was, but then you were resurrected.
Lithobreaking · 1 points · Posted at 23:36:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
because i talked about ordering a shit dildo
gnovos · 1 points · Posted at 00:08:54 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's brilliant! We should all meet up on Google+ and plan out a competitor to Facebook.
MasonTaylor22 · 938 points · Posted at 19:00:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Good, it's time for a new social media era, post-Facebook.
Jklolsorry · 484 points · Posted at 20:22:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Everyone from FB will come over to the new and improved social media platform, Reddit!
[deleted] · 408 points · Posted at 20:59:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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AtomKanister · 214 points · Posted at 21:09:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sad and true. At the same time the biggest anti-FB movement ever is in full swing, Reddit actively tries to become more and more Facebook-ish. Just look at the recent wave of subreddit bans, the pro-advertiser policy, the CSS shit a while ago, etc.
-wwwpastacom · 17 points · Posted at 21:23:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, what happened with that CSS thing?
AtomKanister · 20 points · Posted at 21:39:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They knocked it off after severe backlash from the community and many moderators of large subreddits.
Voller_Faulheit · 4 points · Posted at 01:50:10 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Was the backlash from that worse than the backlash from the recent ban wave of subs?
AtomKanister · 6 points · Posted at 01:57:04 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Much worse. Literally every sub that used CSS for something put up a sticky.
Still not as bad as the Net Neutralty action day, but no matter where you'd go, you'd see it somewhere.
The backlash from the ban wave was pretty confined to a few subs where people complained, and not a whole lot of them made it to r/all.
Voller_Faulheit · 7 points · Posted at 02:04:37 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Damn, I really hope something would happen that will have them review the banned subs, they did a really shitty and insulting job with those bans.
AtomKanister · 7 points · Posted at 02:07:50 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
"As long as it's not me, I don't care"
-literally everyone who cries about the current situation of something on the internet
People don't care about climate change until they get their house flooded or burned down by wildfires, they don't care about their internet security until they get hacked, and they certainly don't care about worrying developments in the services they use unless they're directly affected.
They may complain, but they don't do anything.
And after all, this ban wave was likely not an experiment with no implications, it's a push towards a more ad-friendly, and thus less open Reddit. Companies don't like their ads popping up next to dystopian discussions or photos of dead people, they want them next to cat pics and other crap. See facebook.
postman475 · 2 points · Posted at 02:56:35 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wish more people understood this
Instagram · 6 points · Posted at 02:38:28 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
The new profile pages where you can post things directly to your own profile, have "followers" and people can leave comments to you.
Oh and the new instant chat feature...
Yeah, Reddit is becoming Facebook.
AtomKanister · 2 points · Posted at 10:53:16 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Username kinda checks out.
Hornet42sg · 1 points · Posted at 15:43:51 on May 14, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sorry if a stupid question, but what's the CSS thing? (yes, I live under a rock - no, this isn't Patrick.)
AtomKanister · 2 points · Posted at 16:01:05 on May 14, 2018 · (Permalink)
They wanted to remove the CSS stylesheet customisation option many subs use to get their unique look and replace it with a more "modern" (aka restrictive and ad-friendly) solution. Was ababdoned after a few big subs demonstated aginst it.
Hornet42sg · 1 points · Posted at 16:16:32 on May 14, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh OK, thank you!
columbus8myhw · -2 points · Posted at 22:35:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is banning /r/shoplifting such a bad thing though
kefefs · 17 points · Posted at 23:17:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People aren't upset about /r/shoplifting, they're upset about all the harmless and legal subs that were nuked without notice or a chance to adapt to the new rules because reddit wants to be a YouTube-esque safe space for advertisers, and where advertisers don't have to worry about users selling goods to each other, thus eliminating competition. Nevermind selling goods through reddit, you aren't even allowed to link to places selling certain goods offsite, because that potentially hurts advertisers selling the same thing in their paid ads disguised as reddit posts.
columbus8myhw · 1 points · Posted at 01:11:37 on March 25, 2018 · (Permalink)
I never knew that. That's messed up
kefefs · 1 points · Posted at 01:40:19 on March 25, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep. They killed /r/gundeals because it linked to licensed dealers. Linking to controlled goods is considered "facilitating a sale" apparently.
AtomKanister · 42 points · Posted at 22:44:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Next: ban /r/piracy, /r/hacking, /r/torrents and /r/scholar?
After that: ban porn subs?
Then: force clear names for "transparency"?
See something? Exactly. Banning or not banning communities with immoral, shocking or otherwise "inappropriate" content is the difference between a discussion board and an ad empire aka social network.
Banning on Reddit should be limited to extreme cases, eg planning/announcing crimes, sharing child porn, and the like. Not "oh this hurts our ad revenue, fuck off".
Zychuu · 4 points · Posted at 01:05:29 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well... r/shoplifting kinda was about "planning/announcing crimes".
postman475 · 1 points · Posted at 02:57:52 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who cares if it's bad or good, it's about free speech and neutrality, just because you don't agree with something, doesn't mean it should be banned, and I don't agree at all with shoplifting. lol
my_spelling_is_pour · 5 points · Posted at 21:23:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Omoe wa... uhh... it’s too late.
Crispyanity · 1 points · Posted at 21:30:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Look around. It's already happened.
GIS-Rockstar · 1 points · Posted at 23:37:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
At least glitter text GIFs would be hidden by default. That was MySpace's key downfall.
_misha_ · 1 points · Posted at 00:05:59 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Anyone who's been on reddit for more than 5 years will tell you that's already happened.
stuntaneous · 1 points · Posted at 01:48:57 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It already happened years ago for the most part.
cchoe1 · -1 points · Posted at 23:17:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Implying this place is exclusive and not just Facebook 2.0 already. The fact that you have karma that people actively judge you for might make this place even worse than Facebook. Also "Just no"...you sound just like the type of person who peruses Facebook every single chance you get. Do you also like to say "yaaaassss" and talk in emojis? Time to go virtue signal on Facebook now.
lonelyzombi3 · 11 points · Posted at 21:02:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Please no!
Voidjumper_ZA · 13 points · Posted at 21:12:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Too late.
PM_ME_YOUR_PAWG_BUTT · 3 points · Posted at 22:46:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit is the only social media platform I've ever had. I like it a lot, mostly due to the anonymity of it. I do feel kinda like an outsider, being 32 and never having had a MySpace, Facebook, or Twitter. But I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. Plus, Reddit has all the memes I could ever need!
Stan_poo_pie · 3 points · Posted at 00:38:00 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
FYI Reddit is shit.
God_Damnit_Nappa · 2 points · Posted at 22:00:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I thought r/pics was already the new Facebook
imnottechsupport · 3 points · Posted at 21:18:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Where links to discounted ammunition are banned, but bestiality and murder videos are great! 👍🏻
zimzamzoom2 · 5 points · Posted at 22:50:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Also subs containing alcohol, legal drugs and other perfectly legal items are also banned.
postman475 · 0 points · Posted at 02:59:45 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Stay in line with the groupthink, or you'll get down voted,!
Mr_Supersonic52 · 1 points · Posted at 22:18:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Please no.
jhmblvd · 1 points · Posted at 00:53:11 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
If they don't get power hungry when growing big buts
Gabriel_Aurelius · 1 points · Posted at 02:00:30 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ha! I can see grandma now.
“I keep hitting the upvote button multiple times on posts I like because I’m trying to give them gold. I thought 100 upvotes would be enough but it must be 1,000.”
Psycho_Potato · 1 points · Posted at 02:28:29 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Gosh no
Moist_Cankles · 76 points · Posted at 20:37:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The majority of the population won't give a shit about this unfortunately. This will blow over in a couple weeks
Pink-Fish · 14 points · Posted at 22:14:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hope you're wrong but I know you're right
cpali · 2 points · Posted at 00:02:09 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
People will go crawling back when the withdrawal symptoms kick in.
3EyedBrandon · 2 points · Posted at 01:05:03 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why is it your problem? You can leave facebook, I won't.
Charlzalan · 2 points · Posted at 01:06:00 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're kinda right, but if young people actually abandon Facebook and start using a new SNS, history has shown that people will follow.
PM_Trophies · 1 points · Posted at 15:57:53 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
If I can get my friends to join something other than facebook and leave my parents on facebook I'd totally do that. I wanna go back to the old days when the boomers didn't know how to social-media.
STILL_LjURKING · 12 points · Posted at 20:22:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Time to hop on myface
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 20:40:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
yeah, ill hop on your face
DaHipsterDoofus · 6 points · Posted at 21:14:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Now only if we could get a new YouTube.
16495701722 · 5 points · Posted at 20:32:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What would you recommend?
Quantentheorie · 4 points · Posted at 21:23:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've been giving it some occasional thought under the shower.
On the technical side reformed social media should be non-profit, well encrypted and distributed.
The redunancy of multiple different services doing basically the same with a little twist should be resolved without forcing the users into accepting a single application or forcing them to squeeze their data through a vulnerable collection point. You should be able to track the spread of your data, ways to prevent or discourage your profiles from being scraped, a re-established line between commercial and private content and an option to disable the commercial profiles and pages totally. A psych warning system when your self-created community has low diversity or a lot of content has been flagged as illegal. Sub-Profiles. The ability to provide your data to specific data mining projects for research you approve of.
I'm like 200 IQ points and 190% motivation short of fleshing this out but I'm 100% sure we don't have to accept that the only way to have social media is to whore our sanity and data out to companies that instantly gain the rights (moo point) and ability (thats gonna be interesting) to work with it.
MagnaDenmark · 0 points · Posted at 00:45:50 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You would rather have that data wasted? At least Facebook used it for something
Quantentheorie · 0 points · Posted at 05:31:35 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You dropped this o/ /s.
Or your brain. But it's one those options.
MagnaDenmark · 1 points · Posted at 09:31:49 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you serious you would rather have all that data become nothing rather then be used for ai and shit
Quantentheorie · 1 points · Posted at 10:29:53 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Im on mobile so Ill say it simplified: that's not how this works and not what I said.
Users exercising their right to keep corporate institutions from using their not anonymized data without their knowledge and consent does not follow that scientific progress is halted. You can still give up your data freely, to an extend you control and without having it linked to your person and exploited for monetary gain outside the project it's donated to.
MagnaDenmark · 1 points · Posted at 10:32:41 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
But what is so bad about it? Facebook might as well do it as they have the chance to, plus Facebook users are giving it up freely
Quantentheorie · 1 points · Posted at 11:01:51 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
This kind of abuse of personal information violates fundamental rights of self-determination and can be effectively used for mass brainwashing. See current Cambridge Analytica scandal.
The EU for instances argues that Facebook asks users to give up rights that are actually inalienable.
Even if it were for the greater good (which it arguably isnt) it would be wrong to do this without a users explicit and educated consent.
*word. Added example.
MagnaDenmark · 1 points · Posted at 11:08:09 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
What? How does having your activities recorded give up your right to self determination?
So can all kinds of advertising? This is just more accurate
Welp, so the data should just be wasted , you litteraly just said that they can give up their data freely. This is totally fucked up waste of data, come on, no matter what facebook uses the data for the data actually being out there is better then it not being, no?
I don't get that, the consequences of it is so minimal, yeah it might have had a slight effect on the us election, (which is doubtful i read an article which said that they have a reputation for not being effective amongst politicans but what do i know, campbridge analytica that is) and sure it could have big effects on furture elections, but so could a really smart guy sitting and figuring out what ads you should target people with.
I don't see the problem, you are using facebook and in return they record your activitys, which in turn you get back in form of better services and in the future ai, statistics and shit.
It is very near a strictly good situation
Quantentheorie · 1 points · Posted at 11:45:53 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah I wasn't sure if you were trolling me but so I had a hard time flipflopping between polite conversation and not humiliating myself by taking you seriously but thanks man for making it clear.
The influence and use of especially facebook for voter manipulation has been well recorded and officially acknowledged by multiple organisations and countries. Whith Analytica scraping profiles of unaware users I honestly hope you're a troll otherwise you lack funamental understanding of peoples right to decide what happens with their own data.
You had me good. Good day sir.
Eat_Mor3_Puss · 3 points · Posted at 20:43:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I would LOVE it if we slowly moved onto alternatives to both Facebook and Reddit. The beginning of popular sites is always the best.
PhillipBrandon · 3 points · Posted at 20:49:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can it just be time for a new era, post social media?
ScarecrowsBrain · 3 points · Posted at 21:21:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I come to reddit cuz its not facebook. I couldnt handle that wave of society branch swinging to reddit. Selfies would take over all the pages. No. Nooooooooo!
Nurizeko · 3 points · Posted at 19:50:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Good, it's time for a new breathing era, post-oxygen."
You can convince people they're breathing something else, but they'll be breathing oxygen.
You can convince people to switch to another social media platform, but it will just be Facebook by another name.
The only alternative is join the hippie vegan Luddite collectives or whatever, in attempting to relive the glories of the stone age and go off the grid because the modern world & technology is just a weetl bit scawy. :(
dipique · 3 points · Posted at 20:04:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think there is space for new modern social network paradigms driven by a market that is substantially more sophisticated (where social networking is concerned, anyway) than when Facebook was conceived.
SumoSizeIt · 2 points · Posted at 20:36:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
None of that means anything if the company is still driven by data collection and selling. As long as social profiles can be used for targeted messaging, the platform is vulnerable to manipulation.
dipique · 2 points · Posted at 01:24:00 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Maybe? Personally I don't mind my data being sold if I know what data and to whom and for what purpose. I think a lot of people feel that way. So I still think there's space for that business model as long as the fact that your data is a product is communicated transparently.
SumoSizeIt · 2 points · Posted at 01:39:36 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's true, I guess I'm just too hardened to trust a company to actually follow through on honest data collection anymore. Maybe it's possible for a private firm, but the moment it goes public, there is going to be a push for money being left on the table.
dipique · 2 points · Posted at 02:17:42 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I feel that
concernedcitizen1219 · 1 points · Posted at 20:49:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Honestly, it could just be a platform for events. The photo sharing is mostly on IG which I’m not worried about but if I could be connected purely for that ease of use. FB is now 90% political posts now so anything not around that would be great lol
Mvnwolf · 1 points · Posted at 21:26:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
A wild Tom from Myspace appears!
TheSuniestSunflower · 1 points · Posted at 21:47:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Good luck with that
ChancoinGirl · 1 points · Posted at 22:21:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah where people go outside and talk to people for a change. The last 20 years was a failed experiment.
superdankleo16 · 1 points · Posted at 23:45:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lol don’t they own instagram too. Everyone leaving Facebook is probably going to instagram.
br0ken_socialite · 1 points · Posted at 01:01:52 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, Vero’s trying to be a thing so there’s that..
ScHoolboy_QQ · 1 points · Posted at 02:28:21 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
They’re already here
Acidyo · 1 points · Posted at 10:59:55 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Blockchain powered social media is the new era.
Foundmybeach · 0 points · Posted at 21:22:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd really like it to die period. A whole generation that is obsessed with itself is coming up along with the group that is already here
zxcsd · 0 points · Posted at 22:51:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
WeChat is actually more advanced than FB in many ways, but brought to you by the People's Republic of China
vanquishthefoe · 2012 points · Posted at 16:40:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So nonchalant. Love that people are taking this situation seriously.
NotJuses · 725 points · Posted at 17:00:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They should be as companies because their employees were being datamined without permission too. Who knows what could have been found out as dirt by facebook. Either way though. There's money to be made in FBs fall.
_Apophis · 375 points · Posted at 17:28:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The CA whistle blower even admitted that they scrapped personal PMs, so when people say "it wasn't a data breach" tell them they're wrong.
I can't look for the video right now, where Christopher Wylie mentions it but here is a CBC report about it.
FirstDivision · 256 points · Posted at 18:36:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Quick edit suggestion, I think you mean "scraped" (collected) and not "scrapped" (discarded).
[deleted] · 43 points · Posted at 19:31:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah that had me confused as well. Good catch.
SilentJester · 4 points · Posted at 19:56:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This helped me understand the post much better. Thanks.
MjrK · 38 points · Posted at 18:52:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They scraped personal PMs? Source please?!
2SP00KY4ME · 29 points · Posted at 19:33:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/u/MjrK begins frantically burning the evidence
CrazyAsian · 14 points · Posted at 19:10:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I have a feeling they mean PMs between the devs of that compromised app and their users. Probably less sensational than it is. Highly doubt direct access to a user's private messages exists. That would've leaked by now.
(And before you say "we didn't get leaks on Cambridge Analytica until now", remember that controversy is around SHARING that data. It hasn't ever been a secret what kind of data Facebook allows people to collect)
markhc · 3 points · Posted at 19:33:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It is not a data breach in the sense that people allowed the third-party apps to have access to their data. Technically at least.
_Apophis · 0 points · Posted at 20:27:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I didn't allow the third part apps to get my data, but if one of my friends did, the still got my data. So no, you're wrong.
markhc · 2 points · Posted at 20:41:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's getting his private messages though, which happens to involve you as well.
I still think I am technically right. Emphasis on technically. It doesnt really matter what you call it either way.
permalink_save · 1 points · Posted at 01:48:26 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You are right. The cybersec industry even agrees with you.
daaaaaaBULLS · 11 points · Posted at 17:42:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don’t believe that, do you have a source?
_Apophis · 13 points · Posted at 17:44:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It was in his first or second interview with channel 4, I mean he said those words whether you believe him is up to you.
samwisesmokedadro · 10 points · Posted at 18:59:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I remember him alluding to that in his Guardian interview.
I don't think they went into a lot of detail. But regardless of whether or not they got into the PMs of people, it's still a data breach. According to Facebook, their policies state that the data was only allowed to be used by academics for research, not for for-profit companies. However the data was laundered to Cambridge Analytica through Aleksandr Kogan's company who claims that he did not break Facebook's policy because he was assured by Cambridge Analytica's lawyers that it was within Facebook's policies. Kogan said in hindsight, he would have hired his own lawyer. Facebook knew in 2015 and told them to cut it out, but did not make any public statements.
edit: Edited to add more details.
Ausii · -3 points · Posted at 19:01:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
His words would have to be verified by someone else. Reporters don't really get a say in independently verifying the validity of this kinda breaking news content.
permalink_save · 2 points · Posted at 01:47:18 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's not a breach. It's not people saying that, it's the cybersec industry. That doesn't make the severity any less, it's still a huge fucking leak of private information. People willingly agreed for the survey to scrape information for all their friends. It's akin to handing your phone to someone and they read through all your TXT messages. They can get a really good idea of what your friends are up to. Speaking of, Linked in does this same shit. People sign up and eagerly hit yes to have it scrape their contacts, which they use to map out a whole network of people. That shit is why when you sign up for something like linkedin it already has suggestions.
But it's not a breach. Nobody gained unauthorized access to systems, they just deceived a lot of people into handing a shitton of information over. You can also thank people that handed your entire personal life over to make $1.
johnyutah · 1 points · Posted at 19:05:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What about instagram? Facebook owns it.
spickydickydoo · 1 points · Posted at 18:40:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm gonna need a source. I still don't have a reason to believe this is more than a screen scrape.
_Apophis · 3 points · Posted at 18:50:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
spickydickydoo · -2 points · Posted at 19:17:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't mean to diminish the gravity of locking down your api, but it's still not as big of a deal as the media is making of it. Anyone could have done this.
_Apophis · 0 points · Posted at 20:26:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So you're OK with one of your friends using an app that scrapes YOUR PERSONAL PMs and gives them to a third party, without you knowing? That's not a big deal to you?
This isn't just a screen scrape as you assumed.
spickydickydoo · 2 points · Posted at 20:41:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you okay with Google taking pictures of your personal living space when they drive by, using a device they created? Without you knowing? That's not a big deal to you?
Here's the fact of the matter: it's not a big deal relative to the how much data is collected these days. Companies can collect your data, but we currently have the freedom to collect data on anyone else, broker it and profit too. It's the most democratic business around. And by bit ching you're only going to make the government start regulating data streams. Then huge companies will lobby to make those regulations such that only they can collect data. And just like that we went from a world where anyone with a good idea can learn to code and do data analysis to a world where the self taught MUST be backed by huge pockets.
Guess how much media outlets are going to make on their call options once they stop reporting negative news on Facebook? It's a red herring camouflaged as a data collection case study.
Serenikill · 1 points · Posted at 19:31:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Eh, that's the word of one impartial guy though. Honestly it seems like he didn't know much about how the data gathering was done, the Cambridge guy did the actual mining.
Not that it is particularly relevant, they definitely got the data. Either Facebook gave/sold it to them or they were hacked without knowing, not good either way.
U-Ei · 1 points · Posted at 19:52:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So FB PMs are not encrypted but WhatsApp messages are?!
snarkola · 2 points · Posted at 20:00:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
.... and Alexa and echo and Home pod.
Years ago, no one thought that Facebook was anything other than fun ... no they've been datamined. Owners of Alexa/Echo/HomePod ; you're next.
brickmack · 1 points · Posted at 18:55:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Even disregarding possible leaks from Facebook and such, just looking at public information on peoples accounts can tell you a lot. LinkedIn in particular is a goldmine, but Facebook and Twitter and Instagram accounts of employees are often full of interesting probably-not-supposed-to-be-public information about a company
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:00:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Except in the sense where they gave permission.
triton100 · 1 points · Posted at 21:39:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
When do you think the stock recovery will begin
NotJuses · 1 points · Posted at 21:49:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Around mid April or the start of June there will be some level of recovery.. I'm attempting to influence the dip tbh because it's a genuinely dirt plartform. Realistically, they will recover but they will only be top dog for a while, a new one will come along... when it does that's the one you buy....
triton100 · 1 points · Posted at 00:27:48 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sure but unless they manage to turn it around long term, which they probably will as they have the resources to invest, the demise will take at least 10 years to materialise. And it’s easier said than done knowing which new platform will garner traction and therefore to ‘bet on’. Not easily predictable. Depends on what the new generation z will want.
cocobandicoot · 2 points · Posted at 20:08:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think Reddit overestimates how many people are "taking this situation seriously." Normal people don't read the news. Normal people don't give a fuck.
Everyone is still on Facebook, with the exception of a handful of people on the Internet that are making a big deal out of it. Everyone else doesn't care. There are plenty of people upvoting this article, but are keeping their Facebook accounts.
The rest of the world doesn't pay attention and will continue to blissfully keep their Facebook profiles.
Just telling you how I see it.
chugonthis · 1 points · Posted at 19:58:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why whenever there is a platform to reach a lot of people it will always be taken advantage of, they weren't the first and won't be the last.
Twitter will be the same if it's not already.
redarcher09 · 1 points · Posted at 22:09:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They should, but not for data-sharing and privacy reasons. I don’t recall where I heard this first, but it’s true that if you get a product for free, you are the product. And I get the fact that I’m saying this on a platform I’m not paying to be a part of. :)
FishDawgX · 1 points · Posted at 19:33:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I hope he actually thought this decision through. Removing your presence from Facebook seems like it would be a big deal for a major company. Even though he says they don't buy advertising there, they would get a lot of free advertising just by having pages on Facebook.
[deleted] · 802 points · Posted at 19:06:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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DicedPeppers · 307 points · Posted at 20:12:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I swear if you got all the billionaires together it would be like high school all over again
[deleted] · 23 points · Posted at 00:07:49 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Vandergrif · 8 points · Posted at 02:02:30 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
They probably got there by stabbin' some backs. Probably kept working and they just kept doing it one step to the next.
cowboykillerreds · 8 points · Posted at 00:25:57 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
“Hay zuckerfuck you zucking suck”
sinurgy · 2 points · Posted at 01:52:33 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Humans are going to human regardless of their wealth, political ideologies, race, sexuality, etc. That's why it's so hard to "fix" things like government because no matter what super awesome can't fail ideology you implement, there's a subset of humans that are going to game it to the nth degree for their own personal benefit. That doesn't mean we don't keep trying to make things better, it just means it's infinitely more complicated that simply implementing socialism or capitalism or whatever can't miss flavor you're into.
dak4ttack · 1 points · Posted at 23:08:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
With homeschooled /u/spez off in the cabin reading Ayn Rand, learning how to make bombs, and stand up for 'persecuted and unheard white voices'.
wubstark · 162 points · Posted at 20:44:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Zuck vs Musk.... EPIIIIIC RAAPP BATTLESSS OFFF ...CURRENT TIMES
MatikTheSeventh · 11 points · Posted at 22:31:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Current times are gonna be history someday.
rW0HgFyxoJhYka · 14 points · Posted at 00:52:51 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
EHHYYYYY,
MY NAME IS ZUCK, I LIKE TO CUCC
LOOK AT MY DOLLAS, I LIKE TA HOLLA
I BUILT FACEBOOK, NEVER HIT THE BOOKS,
THE MONEY I MAKE IS HIDEOUS, FROM ALL THOSE FUCKING IDIOTS
Yoooooooo
Its me, your favorite cologne! DA MUSK
DONT LISTEN TO THAT FUCKING CRUST
I BUILD SPACESHIPS AND SUN CARS
I SENT MY OWN CAR TO MARS
I DONT SELL YOUR DATA TO CZARS
FACE IT ZUCK, IM THE REAL ROCK STAR
kbuckleys · 1 points · Posted at 13:03:03 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk > Zuck, any day.
xAsianZombie · 82 points · Posted at 19:44:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Good riddance
dungum · 8 points · Posted at 20:45:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
deleted What is this?
DynamicTextureModify · 13 points · Posted at 21:08:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think there is a discernible difference. Facebook is a social media platform founded and directed by a sociopath (no, I can't actually diagnose him as a sociopath, but listen to the guy, he's fucked up) and dedicated specifically to collecting as much data about a person and all their habits as possible.
Now, advertisement platforms that the other social media sites use do collect data, but nowhere near to the invasive extent Facebook did.
As long as whatever the next big thing is doesn't set its goal to be a massive data-funnel like Facebook, it's a good thing.
january- · 15 points · Posted at 20:26:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Do you remember how people said you can't destroy ISIS, because their ideals will remain and someone will carry on that torch, like a cockroach? Facebook is the same. You can dismantle Facebook tomorrow, good for you. But someone will pop back up next week with the same agenda of data mining. It's unclear what the true solution is here.
nubuck_protector · 22 points · Posted at 21:11:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Agreed. And meanwhile, Google marches on, knowing every single thing about every single one of us, and everyone just shrugs and says, "Well, now, that's different. Nothing you can do about that," and we click "Agree" when the terms and regulations change, and act like FB is the actual problem, when it's really just our own pliable wills and half-hearted fake outrage.
Eunitnoc · 11 points · Posted at 21:37:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Man google is what really worries me. They now know where I live, where I work, where my hobbies are, they have control over my emails, my social media, my phone and apps, my TV. I'd be a fool to believe they're going to use that information responsibly. Just waiting for the google scandal, and in the meanwhile I'll try to undo as much of the damage that has been done yet. That would actually mean getting rid of Android phones, changing my email adress, not using google maps anymore. On a second thought, that might be easier than it sounds. Just giving up smartphones and doing it the old way. Imagine how relaxing it would be to only read emails at home at the computer, not having the urge to look at your phone all the time, listen to music on a device particularly made for this, which won't fuck up every second try. I really want to try this
musicfiend122 · 5 points · Posted at 23:29:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's a bit different though because google provides an endless array of useful services. Google probably knows everything about me, but I make use of at least 4 google services a day and it's a huge part of my life. It definitely worries me a bit, but there is a huge trade-off for Google having my data that just isn't there with facebook
I_am_the_inchworm · 66 points · Posted at 20:22:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well yeah.
Musk is a hard working dude who several times over has put his entire fortune at stake for good ideals and dreams.
Zuckerberg is an arrogant prick who made the ultimate stalking tool for himself, and got lucky.
The two honestly have little to nothing in common.
[deleted] · 20 points · Posted at 21:06:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If given the choice I would be happy making billions either way.
ddoubles · 14 points · Posted at 21:43:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Found Zuckerberg.
ashlee837 · 18 points · Posted at 20:24:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I still remember Zuckerberg calling us dumbfucks for giving him our data.
MrTheenD · 3 points · Posted at 22:30:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What! He actually said that?
ashlee837 · 8 points · Posted at 22:35:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes, in 2004:
[1] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg
Creepy_Disco_Spider · 2 points · Posted at 08:13:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I would've said the same thing tbh
[deleted] · 15 points · Posted at 20:03:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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greatdentarthurdent · 10 points · Posted at 21:04:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Check out Hacker News - they're literally mining every person you contact with timestamps through messenger. Both calls and texts if it's installed on your phone.
KittyWarne · 1 points · Posted at 21:34:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just a few years ago it was pretty simple to get into the backdoor on personal shit using FB. Helped me a lot in my PI days. Open source intelligence!
greatdentarthurdent · 3 points · Posted at 21:59:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I deleted mine after an ex showed me a way to go to a certain url (I don't know it) for someone's profile and see every action they've taken on Facebook up to that point (e.g. You made a comment on that one person's photo in 7th grade? - on the feed).
KittyWarne · 2 points · Posted at 22:35:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It was really crazy what you could see. And how you could manipulate things to show you what you were after. If your friend list was still on lock down there was a way around that. There was a way of connecting your phone number to your page. A way of reading the analytics behind every photo you posted too.
The_Adventurist · 6 points · Posted at 21:56:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What a unique and bold opinion Musk has. It's not like pretty much everyone outside of the Facebook campus thinks he's a creepy little robot child-man.
MisterAdair · 1 points · Posted at 00:03:26 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
but musk said it so that means its brave
PoorEdgarDerby · 3 points · Posted at 20:46:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I got in the first few months. So weird to think how basic it was then.
Dodgerballs · 9 points · Posted at 19:47:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Bold 10 yr prediction. /s
In less than 5 years we will give Facebook as much credit as we give AOL today.
dipique · 30 points · Posted at 20:01:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wouldn't mind if that was true, but a company with a market cap of half a trillion dollars doesn't go down easy. Certainly not in 5 years.
2Eyed · 7 points · Posted at 20:13:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What's needed is a social network that appears to a younger, 'hipper' audience, with some kind of killer app feature.
Keep it exclusive and appealing to a younger base (at least to start), with little advertiser infiltration and a lot less intrusive data mining, and the days of having to worry about 'poking Grandma' may finally begin to come to a close.
But it's unlikely...
CardboardZebra · 18 points · Posted at 20:18:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That’s called Snapchat.
ThePackIsBack · 2 points · Posted at 00:33:57 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Too bad Instagram is starting to get way more popular than SC
xetal1 · 1 points · Posted at 04:13:43 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Then how do you propose they make money, if not ads and data mining?
2Eyed · 1 points · Posted at 15:12:29 on March 26, 2018 · (Permalink)
Some ads, but not overly intrusive ones.
And not ones that push Russian propaganda.
phamily_man · 3 points · Posted at 01:43:35 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Enron had a $60b market cap in 2001 and declared bankruptcy in December of that same year. I know there are vast differences between these companies but it's an example of a giant company sinking very quickly. If Facebook got ruled on the wrong side of the law they could certainly disintigrate within 5 years.
dipique · 1 points · Posted at 02:17:17 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just on the face of it those are very different sizes, and the more you dig into it the less similar the companies are--both in industry and financial fundamentals.
But sure, any company could run itself into the ground, theoretically.
DippinNipz · 9 points · Posted at 20:00:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I like your sentiment, but 5 years is highly optimistic. I see people still using aol as tech support just as much as I still see yahoo and yahoo has been around for a long time. I’d say 15 years.
Hipster-University · 4 points · Posted at 20:53:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My fucking mayor just asked people to email him at an aol address.
tehsma · 4 points · Posted at 21:07:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just wait until they go broke and sell everyone's data to the highest bidder.
timbowen · 2 points · Posted at 00:37:28 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook the product might not but Facebook the company will. They bought most of their real competition and will continue to do so.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 20:22:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Iron man is to musk what whiplash is to zuckerberg
U-Ei · 2 points · Posted at 19:53:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I sure hope so, I believe Facebook is and enables a huge threat to democracies worldwide.
sonnytron · 2 points · Posted at 00:09:59 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It was a valid statement.
Musk warned that AI could be the end of civilization, something that most researchers and PhD's in machine learning warn about (seriously, look up super intelligence and general intelligence here to get an idea).
He's right, Mark's understanding of the subject is very superficial. And as an engineer, I understand Musk's bluntness. I'm mechanical but work in software now and if someone who does civil engineering walked into a seminar about rotating object friction along cylindrical surfaces and tried to say that it's not important to do FEA because they're totally safe, I would want to tell him to fuck off because his understanding is limited.
But we're not all Musk. Musk is what you get when a intelligent engineer is successful enough that he doesn't have to be passive aggressive to say what he's thinking, he can just speak the truth and get away with it.
awildkookappeared · 1 points · Posted at 20:20:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I remember after that being news, a facebook AI team shut down a project b/c their AI had created a more efficient language that couldn't be deciphered.. hah
Meleoffs · 7 points · Posted at 20:33:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
An AI team may have a good understanding of AI but that's not what musk was saying. He was saying Zuckerberg specifically didn't understand AI.
awildkookappeared · 2 points · Posted at 20:50:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I get that. But as facebook's an extension of Zuckerberg, it looked like musk's assertion was true to a certain extent. or at the very least from a pr perspective. mind you this was just days after musk's comments...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tonybradley/2017/07/31/facebook-ai-creates-its-own-language-in-creepy-preview-of-our-potential-future/#4bab01b8292c
http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/25/technology/elon-musk-mark-zuckerberg-ai-artificial-intelligence/index.html
Meleoffs · 2 points · Posted at 21:23:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The whole argument is absurd. I honestly truly believe the arguments for and against AI misdirect people into believing something that isn't true. Yes the possibility exists that an AI will go off script and do something we can't predict. But that's what intelligence is, at least for me. The way I see it is an AI wouldn't destroy the only known species that could create it. Would it subjugate them? Maybe. But how is that any different than what we do to other animals on our planet? Yelling about doomsday scenarios and saying AI is bad as a blanket statement is as ignorant as the people blindly trusting the system without regarding both sides of the argument.
awildkookappeared · 1 points · Posted at 21:41:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think your understanding of AI is beyond mine. I'm not going to argue with any of the tangent you're on. You're probably right. I do still think my anecdote is valid and relevant. Please don't hurt me
dubjon · 1 points · Posted at 21:27:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I declare this comment a prophesy
zxcsd · 1 points · Posted at 22:52:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Or maybe he disagrees with him politely.
chewielewie88 · 1 points · Posted at 23:38:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
just fixed your typo
liveontimemitnoevil · 1 points · Posted at 01:01:24 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
What gave you the impression that Musk doesn't like Zuckerberg?
libretti · 1 points · Posted at 01:21:13 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I hope so, but alas, some other site will fill the void. It's inevitable.
neogrit · 1 points · Posted at 02:10:52 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's one hell of a burn, though.
Bloo-jay · 1 points · Posted at 02:15:54 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Zuckerberg had a movie made about him.
And he was the bad guy.
aleios2 · 1 points · Posted at 03:02:13 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Show of hands. Who on this planet actually likes fuckerberg? I certainly don't.
MasterKongQiu · 1 points · Posted at 04:04:36 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's funny because Rodney Brooks said that Musk didn't really understand AI...
Acidyo · 1 points · Posted at 11:00:26 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Where can I short facebook?
BangForABuck · -2 points · Posted at 19:49:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
While Elon Musks understanding of AI is unlimited or what.
Bidduam1 · 2 points · Posted at 20:03:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who exactly has made that claim about him?
NewFolgers · 3 points · Posted at 20:16:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
François Chollet (creator of Keras - a Machine Learning wrapper library) sort of has https://twitter.com/fchollet/status/889917480818397186 . A while back, a lot of people in ML were annoyed with Elon Musk raising concerns about its dangers. I happen to agree with Elon on that matter.. but there have been people deeper into ML who appealed to authority.
Update: After the GP update, it's no longer clear what claim had been made. The claim was basically that Elon Musk doesn't know much about AI.
indudewetrust · 5 points · Posted at 20:46:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon is definitely an AI alarmist, but of course Skynet is going to say that Skynet is not dangerous. I'm all for advancement in AI but I do think that we should have oversight committees. Especially for ethics. I think all the recent news regarding everything with tech shows a complete lack of ethics and total disregard of social conscience.
NewFolgers · 3 points · Posted at 21:00:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I find that it's not just tech, but business in general for the most part. Where market forces aren't enough to nudge things in a positive direction (or may push things in a negative direction, as with FB), regulation and/or public funds may be necessary.
indudewetrust · 1 points · Posted at 21:23:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You are absolutely correct. Money/profit are the great corrupter and always has been. I believe this world could be a utopia for all of humanity, but we have a primordial selfishness to hoard resources. Kurzgesagt put out a video recently about selfish altruism that was way more intelligently worded and thought through than I can be. I had never considered the possibility of being selfish in altruism. One day humanity will get there.
The_Adventurist · 1 points · Posted at 21:58:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Didn't Ivy League schools used to make business majors take ethics classes? Whatever happened to those?
resorcinarene · 0 points · Posted at 20:53:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You underestimate it's hold on society.
Rick0r · 322 points · Posted at 19:36:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google+ is over here thinking “So you’re saying there’s a chance..”
csgoose · 12 points · Posted at 23:12:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
...you're such a good friend Google+
But I need some time to figure out who I am.
MirrorNexus · 1 points · Posted at 03:31:23 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
"But I already know who you are! I know more than you know. I'm the one you always come to with your problems and I always listen to you and make suggestions."
Zeolance · 10 points · Posted at 20:11:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Eh, fuck it. Why not."
Jah-Eazy · 3 points · Posted at 22:59:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So is the new Myspace
Niamriva · 1 points · Posted at 13:45:50 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Along with Internet Explorer getting the alcohol ready for the inevitable rejection.
justaformerpeasant · -1 points · Posted at 23:51:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nope. Google's going to be exposed, too.
JediBurrell · 2 points · Posted at 00:25:48 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
For what?
They tell you everything they collect and allow you to opt-out of most data collection. Exposed would mean they'd have to be hiding something.
justaformerpeasant · -1 points · Posted at 00:35:21 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You mean like this? Or this?
Opting out doesn't stop them from collecting the data. All you're really doing when you "opt out" is clicking a checkbox that says "opt out". It doesn't stop them from collecting your data, it just means that collecting it is illegal at that point.
JediBurrell · 5 points · Posted at 00:54:00 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
So much misinformation in these articles.
The first one is regarding the “opt-out” of location services. Well the problem is that you were opting out of the phone collecting precise location via GPS. You were not opting-out of IP/mesh location gathering. And they only got in trouble with SK for failing to follow their laws regarding it, every other country allows this.
But that second is so much worse.
Technically the form was being injected by the website itself and Google was utilizing it to gather cookies.
Google doesn't sell information, they sell ads.
Google+ is not defunct.
It's not invisible, it's “hidden”, and it wasn't a difference between Google and Google+, Google+ is a subdomain and shares the same cookies.
You consented by agreeing to the T&S and DNT is a request, not an enforcement. Nothing illegal.
ofkx · 119 points · Posted at 19:50:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I see that Facebook is dying and going the way of Myspace just in time for the 2020s.
owmyglans · 27 points · Posted at 21:41:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wonder if we will call them roaring again.
Zabinski1928 · 3 points · Posted at 02:49:45 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
At the rate we're going, it's going to be the hoarse 20s.
final_cut · 2 points · Posted at 03:51:27 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
What do you think will replace it? I’m hoping for GOOGLE +2
[deleted] · 154 points · Posted at 21:24:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon already had beef with him after Zuckerberg showed, as Elon phrased it, "limited knowledge" with his comments on the future of AI, and also degrading Elon for one of his rockets failing to deliver his satellite, which would've given people internet access to a large part of Africa... But only on Facebook.
This makes a great movement for Musk to show his disapproval.
WazWaz · 63 points · Posted at 21:57:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Surely blowing up Zuck's satellite was a cooler troll?
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 07:22:38 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
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WazWaz · 1 points · Posted at 21:50:09 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was joking, it was obviously not deliberate. But criminal sabotage between individuals and companies isn't an act of war, if you meant that literally.
anthony785 · -3 points · Posted at 02:00:30 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lol not sure Elon has a great understanding of it either. After all that's what the engineers you hire are for.
Cpt_Burrito · -3 points · Posted at 02:47:36 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why does everyone forget Musk is just a businessman?
mrdungx · 12 points · Posted at 04:21:30 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk is a talented engineer. He self taught coding at 12 and was a PhD candiate at Stanford at 24 (before dropping out to develop Zip2). Do a simple Google search first will you?
Cpt_Burrito · 3 points · Posted at 05:04:39 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Shit i guess I haven't read any of the papers he's on
anthony785 · 0 points · Posted at 17:55:36 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't get why he's spewing shit like the hyperloop which an actual scientist proved would be a massive waste of enegery. I've lost trust in him. I get downvoted cause I don't suck elons dick. Nevermind that in a huge fan of spacex and Tesla lol.
homoaIexuaI · 8 points · Posted at 03:23:50 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon has a degree in physics along with a degree in business. I think he may have a better understanding in sciences than quite a few people tbh
ElricDarkPrince · 290 points · Posted at 18:45:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So is everyone going back to my space lol
[deleted] · 54 points · Posted at 20:19:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon could make a new social media site MySpaceX
bruppa · 1 points · Posted at 04:01:12 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Launch my ska punk playlist into space
[deleted] · 88 points · Posted at 19:15:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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aabicus · 34 points · Posted at 20:33:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Your first friend, Tom, was just waiting for you to come back.
collapsing_sanity · 5 points · Posted at 21:09:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Major Tom?
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:35:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lol he took the money from selling it and fucked off somewhere off the grid.
OrangeKefka · 9 points · Posted at 21:17:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He's a photographer now, apparently he's pretty good. But I suppose having unlimited money to travel the world helps improve the content of your photos.
HalfDayHero · 2 points · Posted at 01:45:01 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Back to the pile!
burntfuck · 38 points · Posted at 20:06:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Time to get my theme game back on point!
Hayzemalice · 3 points · Posted at 23:16:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You just made me remember the hours I put into finding/making a good theme, background pic, widget order, and games. Just to make my profile hella awesome. When facebook first came out, not having themes made me kinda hesitant to switch. Lmao
runasaur · 5 points · Posted at 20:19:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not "myspace", "Elonspace"
Thanhtacles · 4 points · Posted at 20:34:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Xanga is where it's at
MyUsernameIsNotCool · 2 points · Posted at 20:26:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yea I'd love to hang out at your space
SumoSizeIt · 2 points · Posted at 20:33:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Better dust off my old Digg account.
ninja edit: Just checked - What the fuck happened to that site?
Ygith · 2 points · Posted at 20:52:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And soon, due to Youtube controversy, maybe Vimeo.
zakkalaska · 1 points · Posted at 21:41:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"You guys on MySpace, orrr?"
EliSmurfy · 1 points · Posted at 21:44:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Give Vero a try tho
2202Jonathan · 1 points · Posted at 22:17:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What about MocoSpace?
SethQ · 1 points · Posted at 01:15:34 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon's going to regular space.
TheBloodEagleX · 1 points · Posted at 01:47:33 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah, we're all heading to Xanga.
[deleted] · 1097 points · Posted at 18:21:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I find it silly that he deleted the Facebook pages but not the IG ones.
Because, you know. Same company.
[deleted] · 251 points · Posted at 19:04:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I understand this concept . I feel the difference between the platforms is less information gathered like family member status and so on to be collected so instagram feels safer / more detached for now ....
Angry_Magpie · 189 points · Posted at 20:17:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram is so much less intrusive than Facebook - Instagram tends to suggest content based on, "Hey, you've liked quite a few photos by this user, why don't you follow them?", whereas Facebook goes, "Hey, remember that guy you saw on the bus the other day, but didn't speak to or make eye contact with? Here's his account. Wanna wave at him? We could tell you what his plans are for the next few days, if you want."
erichie · 56 points · Posted at 21:03:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Holy shit. I don't use Facebook anymore, but when I signed on a few months ago "friend recommends" for a few people at a pizza shop I frequent for lunch. It freaked me out so I deleted the app.
HariettPotter · 4 points · Posted at 23:09:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I had the Facebook app for maybe a day for similar reasons.
125e125 · 3 points · Posted at 01:44:46 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It basically tracks everywhere you go and matches your phone to people in proximity. Same thing is happening with Instagram now... Instagram will be Facebook 2.0 in the next year and we'll rinse/repeat.
IneedtoBmyLonsomeTs · 1 points · Posted at 09:27:44 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sat next to someone at some talk where they told us to talk to the person next to you type bullshit, like and hour or two later he was there as a suggested friend, with no mutual friends.
sonnytron · 3 points · Posted at 00:11:37 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's not even just that.
Instagram's division is very detached from Facebook.
They're owned by Zuckerberg but operate as their own product.
Instagram's tech is pretty solid.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 21:53:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram does the exact same recommendations.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 22:06:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wonder if it does if you don't have facebook? I have never noticed that trend, usually just friends of friends.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 22:27:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why wouldn't it? You are forced to install the app on your phone and give it all kinds of permissions like location and access to your photos, camera, mic, sms messages, and contact list by default. Instagram is owned by Facebook. If you have a Facebook account, they already know your instagram account even if you never tied them together.
thudrs · 1 points · Posted at 22:38:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You are never forced to install the app, just don't buy a phone that has it pre-installed.
tenhourguy · 2 points · Posted at 22:58:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He means that you can't use it in a web browser.
(you actually can but it's very limiting - you can't even post. Never installed the app and never planning to so I've just never really used Instagram)
thudrs · 1 points · Posted at 23:00:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ok, that doesn't really change things. You still aren't forced to install the app.
tenhourguy · 3 points · Posted at 23:03:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well no, you don't have a gun to your head or anything like that, but if you wish to use Instagram for anything much you must install the app. No need to take his comment so literally. :P
Ph0X · 25 points · Posted at 20:13:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To start, as far as I know Instagram doesn't have apps or "sign in with Instagram" on other sites. The next question is, can third party apps on Facebook access your Instagram?
Either way, it seems like there's far less information leaking there.
SultanOilMoney · 2 points · Posted at 21:18:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I barely have any of my into on Instagram, not like they require it. Unless of course you connect it to Facebook which I didn't.
MiNiMaLHaDeZz · 303 points · Posted at 18:47:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Probably also doesn't know they have those.
[deleted] · 303 points · Posted at 18:57:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
https://www.instagram.com/elonmusk
Pretty sure he knows.
zhadn · 432 points · Posted at 19:14:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He knows: here's his thoughts on Instagram, taken from this tweet
richardeid · 23 points · Posted at 19:46:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram is probably ok? What was the reason he deleted his companies' Facebook pages?
TheRealMrMaloonigan · 103 points · Posted at 19:55:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
'Cause fuck it, who cares.
Aanon89 · 38 points · Posted at 20:09:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If everyone in the world said "fuck it, who cares" then tried to stay away from a corporation that's fucked up badly and not use them... the world would be a magical place.
ddoubles · 10 points · Posted at 21:32:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
in some parallel universe everyone is always doing the right thing, it's called heaven.
OutsideObserver · 30 points · Posted at 19:57:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Other apps can't view your Instagram data like any malicious Facebook app can. You don't log into apps with your Instagram account.
richardeid · 5 points · Posted at 20:23:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I love analogies so here's one:
Let's say we found out InBev was using antifreeze in Budweiser products to slowly poison the population. You think fuck that, I'm not drinking Bud ever again because fuck InBev. That's fine, I also drink Busch so I'll just cut out Budweiser and drink Busch.
Point being, you're still supporting a company you feel isn't worth supporting.
[deleted] · 25 points · Posted at 20:44:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Bit of an extreme analogy, there.
This post is just about deleting Facebook because of privacy concerns on that platform. Instagram has a very different use case and different privacy concerns (less invasive).
richardeid · 6 points · Posted at 21:24:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I see your point. But he didn't delete any personal accounts from Facebook. They were fairly large and popular company pages. I doubt there was much of a privacy concern with those accounts as they were more likely than not only being used to post the same exact stuff they post on other social media platforms and to frequently interact with their followers.
Musk, personally, is still driving traffic to and is still a content creator for the same company he just put up a protest against. And so is Tesla and so is SpaceX.
To each their own. But it's a little weird.
someguyfromtheuk · 19 points · Posted at 20:14:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He doesn't use FB so he doesn't care if it's deleted because it's no impact to him.
He uses IG a lot, so he doesn't really want to delete it, but can't say "Yeah, I only delete social media pages if they don't really matter".
So he has to justify it and say IG is "probably ok", even though IG is absolutely seliing off your data the same way FB did.
richardeid · 2 points · Posted at 20:26:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is what it seems like to me, though I obviously can't say if this is actually the case. And Twitter...I mean it's weird to take a stance against one social media company and not another. I bet even fucking Ello sells off your data in some way. That's usually the point of social media anyway.
Whatever, I'm not even that interested in the entire discussion. I just though it was a weird thing for him to do.
TheGruesomeTwosome · 2 points · Posted at 22:17:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’d add to others by saying that Facebook probably much better to harvest data from. You’ve got people filling out their entire profiles with all the details of their lives, as well as text posts being very much the norm.
Instagram has one line for a lil catchphrase, and that’s about it. Sure, it can still track which companies you follow, or locations you’ve visited, but I don’t see it as such a personally identifying platform as the “all on display” nature of Fb.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:04:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because he and other major media influencers have decided its time for Zuckerberg to get Zucked I guess..
Vespasian10 · 4 points · Posted at 20:13:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Zuckerberg also owns Instagram, he knows how to play the game.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 20:42:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
True. Not to say it would happen any time soon, but the fall of IG could be just one viral social media app away. The potential is already there.
Alto_y_Guapo · 3 points · Posted at 22:25:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I doubt it though. Instagram has only kept growing lately, with recent surges in popularity due to new features added. It would take something huge to bring it down at once.
caleb48kb · 1 points · Posted at 15:56:30 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I quit using mine, because they scrapped the chronological order of posts.
It's already going the way of FB, and is trying to make it so business posts are non existant, unless advertised.
LordJFA · 7 points · Posted at 20:08:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Zuck owns IG as well.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 20:12:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Partially Zucked.
Swedneck · 3 points · Posted at 20:22:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
hte small Zucc
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:44:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lil' Zuccky
suparokr · 2 points · Posted at 21:28:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is awesome. He genuinely doesn't give a shit about this. lol
thardoc · 1 points · Posted at 19:05:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
having an account doesn't mean he knows it's owned by facebook
patthickwong · 28 points · Posted at 19:06:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He 100% knows it is owned by FB. Anyone in tech knows this.
FoxFyer · 5 points · Posted at 19:56:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah I can't believe anyone's letting his "What's Facebook" baloney slide. Of course he knew what Facebook is.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:36:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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patthickwong · 3 points · Posted at 19:48:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Exactly, further proves what I am trying to say. For sure Mr musk knows.
[deleted] · 15 points · Posted at 19:06:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah I kinda doubt it. Its not like its hidden knowledge or anything.
thardoc · 0 points · Posted at 19:31:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I didn't know it, a lot of people didn't. It's not like Facebook's logo is explicitly on every page of instagram either.
amedema · 6 points · Posted at 19:41:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He's Elon Musk. He knows all of these people personally.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:44:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah he does know though.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/977236378105798656
acm · 1 points · Posted at 19:55:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think /u/MiNiMaLHaDeZz was claiming Elon may not know there is a spacex IG page. Nothing about who owns it.
He definitely knows spacex has a IG page. He's posts regularly and follows spacex already.
thardoc · 1 points · Posted at 20:47:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
yeah that was my bad
anon0915 · 28 points · Posted at 19:01:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Dude literally posted on instagram less than a day ago.
ashlee837 · 3 points · Posted at 20:23:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I know what a hypocrite.
MiNiMaLHaDeZz · 4 points · Posted at 19:02:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
His personal one, not the company ones.
DJLusciousEagle · 3 points · Posted at 19:15:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What difference does that make?
anon0915 · 5 points · Posted at 19:09:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The way I interpretted Musk's response is "This company is horrible! I'm going to distance myself from them and not support their business" So I think it's a little hypocritical to claim that, yet still use their product and bring the company revenue.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:06:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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MiNiMaLHaDeZz · 1 points · Posted at 19:08:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I did. Probably should have put a /s there i guess.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:14:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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MiNiMaLHaDeZz · 1 points · Posted at 19:17:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ugh i really should have added a /s tag shouldn't i...
hugokhf · 3 points · Posted at 18:55:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
probably because the fan dared him to delete facebook, not IG.
ryzvonusef · 2 points · Posted at 19:23:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/977236378105798656
CakiePamy · 2 points · Posted at 20:19:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Genuine question, why are people reactivating their Facebook pages?
MjrK · 7 points · Posted at 18:56:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He didn't delete the Facebook pages necessarily because of all the Facebook news. He deleted them because he didn't even know they had Facebook pages and someone asked him about it.
Just because same media company, doesn't mean they play the same role in your advertising ecosystem.
teeming_grievance · 3 points · Posted at 19:27:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I see way more activity on his Twitter feed anyways. That's where I track SpaceX. I don't use Facebook for much other than Messenger though so I may have missed the content there.
Badly_Shaped_Beret · 3 points · Posted at 19:40:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter is basically what Facebook was... Back in the day, Facebook was all about status updates... Now it's a wall of adverts. Twitter is m has taken over that realm, which is good to see.
puabie · 2 points · Posted at 19:53:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook is a far richer resource for data than Insta. Gives away family members, birthdays, events attended, life history, what you've shared, what you've watched, your relationships...
Insta gives your bio, likes, and your posts. And maybe your private conversations, a function few people use anyway. It's nowhere near the same product, because it's a photography social media. Facebook is an aggregate, comprehensive social media that works almost like white pages.
0XiDE · 1 points · Posted at 21:26:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you're signed into both on your phone I'm almost certain they have a conjoined profile at Facebook hq
axialclown · 5 points · Posted at 19:57:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram was fucking perfect when it was just Instagram without FB. Only use it to share photos and experiences with mates. Now.... full of self indulgent hipsters, Lycra fused prego mums drinking turmeric lattes and a non chronological feed that’s pumped with more ads than Australian free to air tv.
I_Think_I_Cant · 1 points · Posted at 00:26:45 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/gramkeeping
Souless04 · 0 points · Posted at 20:08:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
IG and FB do not operate the same way. It's not about sticking it to Mark Z. It's about making a statement about privacy.
Companies like ars Technica can't really use Instagram to target people and swing elections.
reaper0345 · 0 points · Posted at 20:43:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't drink pepsi, does mean I should not consume any products from brands that PepsiCo owns?
MNightScamalong · 224 points · Posted at 19:01:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's time to realize that social media companies are not your friend. They have no interest in you, just your information.
rabbittexpress · 28 points · Posted at 19:05:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
...You didn't get this from the very, very beginning????
[deleted] · 13 points · Posted at 19:10:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I dunno man, Myspace wasn't all that bad
rabbittexpress · 5 points · Posted at 19:12:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Myspace had the same purpose...
[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 19:13:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
yeah but they were really, really bad at it, their analytics gathering was really shit but so was everyone's when it was a thing haha, now companies can figure out everything about you with little effort
rabbittexpress · 4 points · Posted at 19:21:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They were still struggling with the monetization thing back in 2005, it's part of the reason why Facebook took over so fast.
The customization also made it possible to completely alter your existence to where nothing was standard...which was nice. But most people didn't like that, apparently.
oath2order · -1 points · Posted at 20:25:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Clearly nobody here on this site got that since they're all "WOO FACEBOOK IS DEAD WOO"
phoenixgsu · 8 points · Posted at 19:09:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If a company offers a free service and no other products, you are the product.
DoneGar · 1 points · Posted at 22:36:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's time to realize that
social mediacompanies are not your friend. They have no interest in you, just your information.[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:39:35 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
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DoneGar · 2 points · Posted at 13:14:38 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You run a small business, your not a company. Your profits come first regardless. You can wrap it in any moral garb that you like. Nothing personal
cpali · 1 points · Posted at 00:05:23 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqggW08BWO0
It's the Onion, but it's applicable.
bystander007 · 96 points · Posted at 22:03:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Justin Timberlake patiently waits in the background as social media sites burn around him. Taking a sip of tea he smiles off into the smokey sunset as he prepares to update his Myspace page.
flippinlikebirds · 13 points · Posted at 23:28:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well, in only a few shorts weeks, “it’s gonna be may.”
125e125 · 2 points · Posted at 01:46:52 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I truly don't understand wtf people are still passing ownership of that site around like a hot potato.
terryboyyy · 1 points · Posted at 22:04:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Made my day, thank you
Zanford · 1 points · Posted at 01:20:44 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/writingprompts
sensicle · 1 points · Posted at 03:48:03 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You know what's cooler than social media? Social BEDIA, with a B.
tejmin · 427 points · Posted at 18:42:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
With class and style.
Fudge89 · 96 points · Posted at 19:37:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He stomped all over his social media/design teams dreams today.
IPoAC · 38 points · Posted at 20:15:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To be fair, you could only do so much with a facebook page's design. You can polish a turd but it's still a turd in the end.
and1984 · 1 points · Posted at 01:12:39 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Polishing a turd... Seems a little gross... Smearing..
Kerrigor2 · 3 points · Posted at 01:57:56 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Myth busters did it once. Actually looked pretty nice by the end.
andyroux · 4 points · Posted at 21:01:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, the people that run his fb probably do a fair amount of his tweets as well...
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:20:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nope, he just saved them some time by reducing their workload. Believe me, Facebook is one of many of their jobs.
tejmin · -1 points · Posted at 19:38:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep. Probably saved himself a couple hundred grand a year not paying those people anymore.
prothello · 6 points · Posted at 20:06:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Or have them do actual marketing stuff.
[deleted] · 12 points · Posted at 20:14:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
pretty sure his companies' social media teams just spend all day astroturfing reddit anyway
tejmin · 7 points · Posted at 20:49:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Maybe that's why they're all saying "Hurr, yea, just fucked up his social media team's day today!"
I'm laughing though. It's hilarious how sensitive people get over a tool that does nothing but spy on you. It's more of a virus than a legitimate function, it's amazing how fast it went from college group up tool to an invasive, pervasive, mass citizen programming tool.
tejmin · 1 points · Posted at 20:15:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Subtle. I like it. :)
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 21:10:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
TIL his social media team not worrying about Facebook anymore means they are fired
jeanph01 · 0 points · Posted at 13:16:19 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not at all... He saved them the embarrassment of maintaining a presence on fb. Musk just saw earlier than everyone else that fb is toasted.
ElitistPoolGuy · -2 points · Posted at 21:05:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
social media teams are the new HR. Contribute nothing and ruin everything.
psychedlic_breakfast · 4 points · Posted at 20:15:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Like this.
https://ibb.co/dMQ6zn
tejmin · 1 points · Posted at 20:21:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh that's awesome. Even cooler, knowing that!
Vespasian10 · 15 points · Posted at 20:13:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How exactly is that with "class and style"? You guys really can't stop sucking his dick.
tejmin · -7 points · Posted at 20:21:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Badasses never look back at the explosions.
Elon just exploded his FB account, never looked back.
Epic. Classy. Stylish.
2SP00KY4ME · 12 points · Posted at 19:33:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Literally all he said there was that it looks lame.
/r/elonmuskcirclejerk
non-troll_account · 5 points · Posted at 19:12:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is frustrating. I use Facebook, and followed both pages as part of my curated news feed.
Kayyam · 16 points · Posted at 19:19:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I want a screenshot of this "curated" news feed on Facebook.
Lee__Roberts · 14 points · Posted at 19:30:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Look at his username
tejmin · 4 points · Posted at 19:30:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fuck facebook. Now you'll just have to click a few other buttons instead. Big whoop.
esperzombies · 3 points · Posted at 19:57:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I understand the value of getting your information in a convenient location, but /r/spacex is really the place to be for news given how insanely knowledgeable the people are over there.
celew · 1 points · Posted at 20:02:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/tesla /r/spacex
HariettPotter · 2 points · Posted at 23:10:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
His nonchalance is exactly what makes it so cutting. Love it.
FoxFyer · -1 points · Posted at 19:58:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah just clothesline your company's social media team, classy and stylish.
soothinglyderanged · 2 points · Posted at 04:32:39 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Social Media team, not facebook team. Those people do a lot more than just manage a facebook page. Nobody is losing a job over this.
tejmin · 0 points · Posted at 20:04:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Like I said to another redditor - probably saved himself a couple hundred grand a year cutting that crap out. Besides, it's his to clothesline, is it not?
FoxFyer · -1 points · Posted at 00:05:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sure; any CEO can undermine or render superfluous any employee or department at any time. Most people consider arbitrary and capricious moves like that a demonstration of neither class nor style, though.
Xerxesthegreat1 · 141 points · Posted at 19:15:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ouch, damn, that zucks
Synicull · 3 points · Posted at 22:10:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh hi Mark.
Strykero · 2 points · Posted at 21:48:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Get out of here, dad!
artishooke · 2 points · Posted at 22:46:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Highly underrated comment
CarlosDanger0123 · 1 points · Posted at 19:22:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I see what you did there with that double entendre
I see you shining
Xerxesthegreat1 · 1 points · Posted at 19:32:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Aw, shucks, you made me smile.🙃
EZselect · 2429 points · Posted at 18:15:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon Musk could scratch his balls and it would hit the front page.
Edit: My highest rated comment would be about Elon Musk's balls...
Sky_Muffins · 557 points · Posted at 18:52:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So what you're saying is Elon Musk has never scratched his balls? If true, that might actually hit the front page
EZselect · 113 points · Posted at 18:57:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think you're on to something.
[deleted] · 10 points · Posted at 19:18:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
On to Elon’s Musk Sack
Aanon89 · 3 points · Posted at 20:06:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Does your sack have the wrong musk? Try out Elon's Musk™! Coming to a retailer near you!
Jedi_Tinmf · 3 points · Posted at 19:33:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Or, he scratches his balls all the time but because he doesn't have a facebook account there is no one farming that data about him.
redit_usrname_vendor · 2 points · Posted at 19:18:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I hate how long this is taking. Can someone post source already!
Diamondillius · 10 points · Posted at 19:10:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We've concluded that regardless of if he does or has never scratched his balls, the front page will be hit, we just have to decide which is the case in order to make the news accurate.
_Serene_ · 12 points · Posted at 19:20:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/EnoughMuskSpam
jesus christ ಠ_ಠ
G2geo94 · 4 points · Posted at 20:32:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm going to assume that subreddit isn't serious, given it is essentially an Elon Musk spam sub in itself
SomeZ · 2 points · Posted at 19:58:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That makes sense. He channels that energy into motivation. If I just launch a rocket, the vibrations from the launch will scratch my balls for me.
Just like that bass drop.
DrMobius0 · 2 points · Posted at 20:15:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
TIL Elon Musk has never scratched his balls
Honest_Rain · 2 points · Posted at 20:50:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you stupid? Of course he doesn't scratch his balls himself, Ben from accounting can handle that shit.
BalognaRanger · 1 points · Posted at 19:50:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Big (balls) if true
WasADogNowImNot · 1 points · Posted at 20:21:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Big if true
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:23:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Big if true
infernophil · 1 points · Posted at 20:31:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Paging u/ElonMuskOfficial. Please update us on your balls.
odraencoded · 1 points · Posted at 20:46:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
https://gfycat.com/HeftyPlayfulBream
Purplebuzz · 25 points · Posted at 19:52:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How could he scratch them when they are so far down Reddit’s throat?
BassCreat0r · 3 points · Posted at 00:26:46 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's the double circle jerk.
PhukMe · 11 points · Posted at 21:01:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Delete the edit please
[deleted] · 141 points · Posted at 18:56:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Excalibur457 · 76 points · Posted at 19:16:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That, and, reddit is full of smart people who enjoy riding futurist dick, and Elon is Chief Futurist for the time being.
Caleth · 11 points · Posted at 20:16:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well we like to think we're smart, and given some of the discussions by rocket nerds in r/spacex some of us might actually be really smart.
ConfusedCartman · 16 points · Posted at 20:26:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit started out as a kind of “intellectual alternative” to sites like Digg - but I think it’s grown way past the point of that still being true. Sure, Reddit attracts intellectuals, but its reputation as the “intelligent media platform” also attracts everyone who thinks they’re smarter than the next guy. Then they all group together in an echo chamber, massaging egos and keeping everyone feeling intelligent by avoiding conflict and intelligent discourse.
E.g. /r/the_donald
It might do more harm than good, to be honest.
Excalibur457 · 5 points · Posted at 21:37:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Eg /r/the_donald, /r/politics, /r/bitcoin... basically any place that is an echo chamber by nature
cvhagt · 7 points · Posted at 21:03:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Most of the people don't even take the time to find out how upvotes and downvotes are meant to work. The use it just like on any other social media site, overlooking that reddit is indeed discussion based.
Excalibur457 · 7 points · Posted at 21:36:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is my number one pet peeve. Reddiquette clearly states that “the downvote button is not a disagree button” and that it should “only be used when the person is contributing nothing to the discussion”. I don’t even think people read the suggested rules tbh. There’s a lot of good stuff in there.
cvhagt · 2 points · Posted at 21:52:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To be fair I think reddit is one if not the only site that uses downvotes this way so it's not unlikely to assume that they are no different to everywhere else. It's the same with the GTC, we just click on accept without reading.
Btw I'm looking for discussion based subreddits that enforce this rule, to increase my skill. You seem the right person to ask: do you know any besides CMV?
ConfusedCartman · 1 points · Posted at 22:11:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don’t offhand, but I too am curious. I love /r/changemyview - one of the few subs that specifically encourages discourse and intelligent disagreement. I wish I knew of more.
cvhagt · 2 points · Posted at 23:25:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thanks anyways. I'll save your comment so I can tell you when I find something you can check out. If I rember, that is.
TybrosionMohito · 2 points · Posted at 20:59:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tbh the_d isn’t even close to the only one though.
Hell, some of the defaults are that way
FrostyD7 · 16 points · Posted at 19:57:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But I heard they spend zero dollars on marketing! I see articles about it literally every day. Are you saying that those are ads too? /s
Tesla die hards will never see the irony in how their perceptions of tesla have been manipulated by their marketing.
canIbeMichael · 22 points · Posted at 18:59:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep, maintain a positive image for Tesla, SpaceX, and Elon.
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aschr · 9 points · Posted at 20:09:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not to be rude, but this seems to be working like a charm, based on your comment.
Toland27 · 8 points · Posted at 19:54:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I suggest you look into their employee treatment... also while Elon sends rockets into space, people are starving and dying all around the world due to preventable, treatable illness.
People often forget that with just a fraction of these people’s wealth, so much harm could be avoided, harm that pushes people towards crime and terrorism.
And others will argue, “but Elon has no obligation to do any of that”, there isn’t a ounce of doubt that Elon wouldn’t be where he was today in terms of wealth if it weren’t for his ancestors piggybacking of the slave labor and apartheid of black and oppressed people.
CeaRhan · 8 points · Posted at 20:21:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There are lots of things to criticize Musk for yet you manage to make the dumbest remark one could make. Hang this post on your wall, 'cause this is your Minum Opus.
PolitelyHostile · 2 points · Posted at 21:12:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So this is the bar that is set for him. He has to literally cure cancer before reddit will stop bitching about how overrated he is.
CeaRhan · 0 points · Posted at 21:23:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah, it's just that when a man implies he'll manage to put in place a "direct democracy" in a far away spatial colony when he'll own pretty much the entire place and vital insfrastructure that allows people to survive there, you get a little bit concerned about what they do.
Toland27 · -5 points · Posted at 20:28:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How much do you think that rocket cost, and how many vaccines do you think could’ve been purchased with that same money. Vaccines that would save babies, children, women, and men.
If he truly cared for humanity like he claims to, he wouldn’t look to create colonies for billionaires while 90% of the planet is suffering
CeaRhan · 8 points · Posted at 20:56:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You seem hellbent on writing the most insanely out of touch comments today.
The price of the rocket? What's your point? That a COMPANY made for SPATIAL ENGINEERING AND TRAVEL should use the money they invest in BETTERING EXISTING TECHNOLOGIES to bettering the quality of life of an entire planet in a domain none of them even works in? Why not ask the billionaires who don't do anything with their money?
DynamicDK · 7 points · Posted at 20:37:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wow, that is literally insane. Because there are other problems in the world, he shouldn't work toward solving the ones he has chosen? Fuck off with that. By that same logic, everyone in the world, including you, should be devoting all of your time to solving those problems, and nothing else. But, if that were to happen, then the world economy would grind to a halt, and chaos would erupt.
Toland27 · -3 points · Posted at 21:05:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
All i know is that if the world can achieve 0 homelessness, 0 deaths due to preventable disease, and 0 hunger like we can today, but the economy doesn’t allow it, then maybe a capitalist economy is no longer best.
DynamicDK · 0 points · Posted at 21:29:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Technically we could do that, but in reality it is much harder to accomplish. And, while I agree that we eventually need to move beyond capitalism, it isn't like we can just say,"Ok, capitalism is over. Time for something else." When people have tried to do that in the past, it has had disastrous consequences and ended up causing far more suffering and death.
Capitalism is a necessary evil until we can progress sufficiently to slowly move to some other sort of system. Maybe we can implement a universal basic income at some point, then slowly take steps toward not really needing to use money as automation replaces more and more of the labor force.
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Toland27 · 2 points · Posted at 20:13:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lol, as if i, or 99% of the world, make more money than i need to survive in this capitalist hellhole we call earth. Infact most people on earthdont even earn enough to truly survive. You go look at the conditions people “survive” in in Brazilian and Indian slums and tell me they’re truly surviving.
Elon could live for hundreds of lifetimes of his wealth. Wealth generated by his employees surplus value that he ruthlessly extracts through some of the worst working conditions in the industry.
slamdunkmyjunk · 4 points · Posted at 20:25:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How does Elon Musk making and selling Paypal have anything to do with slave labor or apartheid? Do we only have our society because black people picked cotton for us in the 1800s? You can't say he wouldn't be wealthy if our ancestors didn't employ slaves, it's not like they employed slaves for the purpose of advancing technology.
Toland27 · 2 points · Posted at 20:33:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes. And if you think black slavery ended in thr 1800’s I suggest you read the American constitution, specifically the 13th amendment. Not to mention the millions of salves the united states exploits around the globe through capitalist consumerism
That’s because slaves were technology to these people.
slamdunkmyjunk · 1 points · Posted at 20:39:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're right. Now how is this relevant to elon musk making and selling paypal.
Toland27 · 1 points · Posted at 21:14:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon grew up in Pretoria, South Africa, a white-only city that was extremely privileged and allowed him to follow his pursuits. If you don’t think having this privilege enabled him to become as wealthy as he is today compared to the terrible conditions blacks faced in South Africa, then i don’t know what to say.
slamdunkmyjunk · -1 points · Posted at 20:33:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In fact we'd probably be much better off if we educated black people and let them partake in the technological advancement of our society. That doesn't fit your narrative though that any white person who made money doesn't deserve it.
Toland27 · 2 points · Posted at 20:35:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I am entirely in favor of educating those without eduction.
Knowledge is a human right, and the fact that intellectual property exists is a crime against humanity.
Every human should be able to learn whatever knowledge is available to learn, and many would if it weren’t for copyright laws preventing them from doing so.
But leftists supporting things you don’t expect them to doesn’t fit your narrative.
alteraccount · 2 points · Posted at 20:20:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That just means you've bought into it already.
GuiltySparklez0343 · 2 points · Posted at 20:35:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Take a minute and think about if you really think it's smart to believe that.
ActuallyIsTimDolan · 0 points · Posted at 19:03:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As stupid as it can be, reddit is still one of the smartest forums on the internet (at least for its size).
JM20130 · 17 points · Posted at 19:19:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm fairly sure that I, along with some others, are bringing down the average IQ.
ChrysMYO · 3 points · Posted at 20:02:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just based on the vocabulary of that comment, you haven't been on IG
JM20130 · 2 points · Posted at 20:47:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm guessing IG is Instagram. Tried it, I don't see what all the fuss is about.
ActuallyIsTimDolan · 5 points · Posted at 19:22:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm afraid I don't understand.
GhostPaleThrowOut · 4 points · Posted at 19:34:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Self depreciating humor, pretty hot right now my man.
dangolo · 3 points · Posted at 19:35:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You'd still double the average IQ of /r/The_donald
BIGBUMPINFTW · 11 points · Posted at 19:44:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Biggest laugh of the day, thanks for that
FrostyD7 · 3 points · Posted at 19:59:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The problem is diversity of knowledge, its mostly young white men and that is a narrow scope of world views.
ActuallyIsTimDolan · 3 points · Posted at 20:01:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I just go to /r/blackpeopletwitter when I want to diversify my knowledge. Makes me feel pretty, you know, "woke."
chugonthis · 5 points · Posted at 20:05:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Mention his hair plugs and you're a big meanie so you get down voted.
outworlder · 9 points · Posted at 19:00:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Of course. Who wouldn’t want some automated, reusable ball scratching ?
itsdahveed · 2 points · Posted at 22:05:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/EnoughMuskSpam
am0x · 2 points · Posted at 00:53:01 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon is the lord and savior of Reddit.
Guy can't turn a profit but he can't turn a neckbeard
ukima9 · 10 points · Posted at 18:42:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't know what it's with these comments, jealousy, hate or attention?
Edit: yeah this title is kinda stupid.
[deleted] · 64 points · Posted at 18:46:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
None. Annoyance, with all Musk spam.
FrostyD7 · 6 points · Posted at 20:00:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My problem is with the ratio of spam and koolaid drinking by people who think it is all driven by their fans due to how great the company is. The "tesla doesn't spend any money on marketing" myth has been pushed hard by their PR and... ironically their marketing teams.
MassiveMeatMissile · 24 points · Posted at 19:02:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/EnoughMuskSpam
[deleted] · 13 points · Posted at 19:04:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Good sub, already a fan.
_Serene_ · 3 points · Posted at 19:22:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Unfortunately that type of sub probably just leads to him receiving more attention, lol
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:17:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
those sub names are usually misleading. They'd like for him to get some bad attention.
scandalous_squid · 7 points · Posted at 19:06:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let me get this straight... You don't like all of the Musk spam, so you subscribe to a sub that is dedicated to pointing out all of the spam?
MassiveMeatMissile · 8 points · Posted at 19:07:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's nice to have the other side's views on display too instead of the constant praise reddit gives for the man and his companies. Are you equally confused by the anti Trump spam equivalent subreddits?
scandalous_squid · 2 points · Posted at 19:15:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes, I don't really understand any of the enough"x"spam subs. If I was tired of any kind of spam I would actively try to not encounter it. Be it from someone that I actually like but feel like is overly reported (like is Musk's case) and especially if it's someone I don't like.
MassiveMeatMissile · 1 points · Posted at 19:18:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fair enough, not every subreddit is going to appeal to everybody.
CzerwonyJasiu · 1 points · Posted at 19:37:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I am. I hate trump like the next guy so I do not want to bother to read anything concerning him. So anti-trump subs are blocked by me because they are so repetive and don't add any value. Only fuel your frustration.
KetchupBlood · -2 points · Posted at 19:08:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, I don't get it. What do they get out of this? They get to act smug about not liking something? That's very hipster-ish for them.
TRAIN_WRECK_0 · -2 points · Posted at 19:20:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/AgainstMuskHate
Sasamus · 3 points · Posted at 19:13:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
For some, sure, but certainly not for everyone.
For everything or anyone that is disliked or even hated there is a notable percentage of people that express their dislike for it that would not if no one else did. Some wouldn't even have the opinion.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:17:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In my opinion he deserves neither hate nor love. He is just a CEO.
Companies themselves should be in the public eye, maybe, but Musk himself is becoming an annoyance. He is "cool", he is also horrible in other ways. He is just human after all, a human with money who pays other people to do stuff.
street593 · 1 points · Posted at 21:43:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Couldn't you just use RES to filter any post with the word Musk in it?
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Sir_Fappleton · -8 points · Posted at 18:47:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I get tired of seeing Reddit collectively suck the dick of a billionaire they think will go out of his way to save them "from climate change", or they have grand delusions that they'll vacation to Mars, when in reality Mars will be a country club for the rich and a place for them to go after they destroy the Earth and won't be held accountable for it. Fuck Musk, and fuck you too, bootlicker.
Edit: LMAO at these Musk fanboys
Edit: One of his factories has rampant racial issues that he ignored, but we'll totally get Roadsters for free one day guys!
He crushes attempts to unionize, but he's so charming!
JTFout · 1 points · Posted at 18:51:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who hurt you?
Sir_Fappleton · -3 points · Posted at 18:56:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The bourgeoisie.
moesif · -1 points · Posted at 18:59:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lol how is praising Musk being a bootlicker? Seems like a stretch.
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0-0-0-0-24 · -2 points · Posted at 18:50:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hey but then the species survives! Hurray!
Sir_Fappleton · 4 points · Posted at 18:57:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My point is that he's not going to do that.
slamdunkmyjunk · 0 points · Posted at 20:10:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
A lot of people also thought it impossible he could land a rocket after launch. At least he's improving technology while you twiddle your thumbs and masturbate on reddit.
Sir_Fappleton · 0 points · Posted at 20:13:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No "he's" not. Elon Musk has actually invented very little, he just takes the credit from people he employs.
slamdunkmyjunk · 0 points · Posted at 20:20:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As is the case with all CEOs. I guess we can never give credit to the leaders though.
Sir_Fappleton · 1 points · Posted at 20:25:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Right. Reddit does exactly that.
slamdunkmyjunk · 0 points · Posted at 20:28:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Haha, I was being sarcastic in that we can't give credit to the leaders. Of course we can't celebrate every single person in an organization. It's the usually the guy who brought everyone together under his vision getting a lot of the credit. And there's nothing wrong with that. This man could've just retired with his fortune but he instead decides to shape the future. And basic people like you can't understand that.
Sir_Fappleton · 0 points · Posted at 22:50:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
TIL I'm basic for not kissing the boots of a billionaire who couldn't give less of a shit about you or me.
slamdunkmyjunk · 1 points · Posted at 02:39:47 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're literally just the run of the mill contrarian hating on somebody just because other people like them. Sad.
Sir_Fappleton · -1 points · Posted at 06:17:45 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Better than bootlicking
slamdunkmyjunk · 1 points · Posted at 15:43:21 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well as you long as you keep falsely equating boot licking with a mild defense of a public figure online, sure.
_greyknight_ · 0 points · Posted at 19:25:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Friendo, we'd have to fuck the Earth up beyond belief, like nuke it from orbit with hundreds of nukes spread over for maximum coverage with fallout, before Mars even begins looking like a comparable deal, much less a country club. Just by polluting/exploiting the environment, it would take an almost immesurable amount of time before that happens. Motherfucker, Mars barely has an atmopshere, and has no magnetic field, shit ain't all it's made out to be.
Redrum714 · -3 points · Posted at 19:22:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lmao at how insecure you are. He's done more good for humanity than you will ever do in your life.
Sir_Fappleton · 5 points · Posted at 19:28:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Care to name examples? I didn't realize it was a competition.
Redrum714 · -3 points · Posted at 20:38:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh idk creating the first reusable and self landing rocket is pretty fucking impressive.. leading the charge for electric cars and home battery power solutions. Creating cutting edge tech is a competition... you’re not too bright are ya?
Sir_Fappleton · 2 points · Posted at 22:26:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lmao he didn't do any of that. His employees did. He bought Tesla after it was already making electric sports cars. Elon Musk hasn't done shit except take credit he doesn't deserve. Not too bright are ya?
Redrum714 · -1 points · Posted at 22:28:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yea SpaceX and Tesla just magically formed with nothing to do with Musk. Now you're just acting retarded.
Sir_Fappleton · 1 points · Posted at 22:53:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yup. IIRC the only patent in Elon's name is part of the door design on Tesla cars.
logangrey123 · 2 points · Posted at 19:45:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So have a lot of billionaires, he has also caused more harm to employees than most would do too. Also he told his wife that he owns her (not as a joke).
And it's strange how you seem to know what a stranger on Reddit is going to do with their life.
slamdunkmyjunk · -3 points · Posted at 20:11:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Right here folks Elon Musk has enslaved his wife. Get the latest news from Logangrey123!!
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Sir_Fappleton · 0 points · Posted at 19:49:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why is it wrong to discriminate against the rich?
thingkr · 0 points · Posted at 22:11:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
because being rich doesn't make you bad
Sir_Fappleton · 0 points · Posted at 22:22:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Since when does exploiting your workers to make yourself richer not make you bad?
keephidingpussy · 0 points · Posted at 02:41:15 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
TIL making money = exploiting workers. All those poor exploited people from when he sold PayPal.
Sir_Fappleton · 0 points · Posted at 04:00:47 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yup. You earn way more for your employer than you earn in your paycheck. Thus, exploitation.
EZselect · 0 points · Posted at 18:48:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
None of the three. It is just an observation.
ukima9 · 2 points · Posted at 18:58:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well what do you know, entrepreneur does things not most innovators or billionaires usually do and he gets to be in all the news
It's pretty obvious, and yeah I agree tweets and shit like this shouldn't be on a r/news but few similar comments on other subs are just too toxic and moronic.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 20:38:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't either. Even at work my conservative coworkers roll their eyes at his companies. I honestly think they've somehow made it political, like everything nowadays.
Does Reddit post EVERYTHING about Elon Musk? Sure. Does Elon Musk and his companies accomplish miraculous feats? Absolutely.
These people getting their panties in a wad over people giving him a praise can get stuffed or go somewhere else.
Reddit_Hitler · -14 points · Posted at 18:48:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's just that the move by Elon Musk was extremely petty. Mark Zuckerberg has accomplished far more that Elon at a younger age and obviously, he is jealous. It's just not something I would expect from the CEO of a major corporation.
[deleted] · 19 points · Posted at 18:50:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How is creating a website accomplishing more than Tesla and SpaceX? I took comp sci in university, I can make a website too. Stop riding zuckerbergs cock.
SjettepetJR · 7 points · Posted at 18:55:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Exactly, Zuckerberg got lucky and actually did barely any of the hard work of what facebook is today.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 18:59:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This, anybody who took into comp sci and has time can build a social network, it takes a special mind to invent a battery that can power a house or help support an entire country's power grid.
https://globalnews.ca/news/3892167/tesla-lithium-battery-australia/
notfawcett · 1 points · Posted at 19:12:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I haven't seen a movie come out about Elon Musk's accomplishments.
Boom. Checkmate
Reddit_Hitler · -7 points · Posted at 18:58:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let's see: 1) Zuckerberg is 13 years younger than him. 2) His net worth is more than 3x greater than Musk. (About 65B compared to 20B) 3) You're discounting what Facebook actually has accomplished. It almost single-handedly transformed how humans interact with one another through FB and Insta. 4) You're also discounting his success and investments into VR 5)SpaceX is an impressive company. I believe that he can potentially turn that into a money-making machine. However, we'll have to see on that. But Tesla is 100% over-rated. It gets hyped up way too much and the technology is not that impressive in the cars themselves.
ukima9 · 2 points · Posted at 19:03:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram is not made by zucc.
Reddit_Hitler · 0 points · Posted at 19:05:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram is owned by Facebook. We we're comparing the two CEOs and their companies, therefore, subsidiary companies (such as Instagram for FB) is meaningful to compare them.
ukima9 · 2 points · Posted at 19:20:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well if it's not for the British empire there would be no Israel (like it is now) and no white people in Africa so I guess the real credit goes to English colonisation.
Guess the discussion is over.
cjadthenord · 2 points · Posted at 19:00:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I literally just left a Tesla showroom, and as a car fan, I can confidently say they are as sexy as they are technologically advanced.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:15:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
1) Once again, a 13 year old with computer science knowledge could create a website like Facebook so I don't see the argument you're making. 2) I bet a lot of people have a higher net worth than Elon Musk, yet he's the one doing innovative things that will shape society and knowledge of the classical sciences. Money isn't everything, net worth is irrelevant. 3) You're right, it has but at the cost of a degradation in social skills. It has changed the way we communicate but I'm not so sure that that's a good thing. 4) He bought Occulus, he had nothing to do with any of the tech behind the original Occulus Rift which pioneered all of the other VR devices out there today. Not really sure how that's an accomplishment. Also, the rift is probably one of the worst VR headsets you can get, the Vive is much better. 5) The impressive part of Tesla isn't the cars and it never was the cars. It's the batteries. No battery has ever been designed like it and they will be able to be used to power homes in the future. That's pretty impressive. Also https://globalnews.ca/news/3892167/tesla-lithium-battery-australia/
ukima9 · -1 points · Posted at 19:05:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Also space X made history with reusable rockets. Took his money out of his own pockets despite all the rocket failures.
Compare that to making a hot or not website turned to "Facebook" doesn't seem so great to me.
Reddit_Hitler · 3 points · Posted at 19:10:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook has contributed more to society than SpaceX has as of right now. That's not debatable. I'm not saying SpaceX won't amount to something greater than FB, it might. However, as of right now, the only thing it has accomplished it developed the technology for reusable rockets which makes launching things into space, less expensive. However, FB has transformed the way humans interact with one another. Almost everyone uses Facebook (in 1st world countries) and this has changed the social dynamics of our society.
ukima9 · -1 points · Posted at 19:16:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I agree with that but you must be naïve to believe if not for Zuckerberg there wouldn't be any other platforms.
Truth is if not zucc there would be someone else, but if not Elon it, would be way too later for anything like space X or the Tesla plan. Because nobody cared(and many still don't).
logangrey123 · 0 points · Posted at 19:48:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd expect a billionaire to fund something that they are doing, that's nothing special!
ukima9 · 4 points · Posted at 18:52:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think it's more of his debate and carelessness on AI not him being jealous, like what being jealous he isn't the creator of a annoying social media platforms filled with moms and minion memes, yeah ryt lol.
TromboneEngineer · 1 points · Posted at 21:50:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon Muskballs
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:59:25 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hopefully they aren't too musky.
Iandian · 0 points · Posted at 20:22:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No one gives a fuck what your top comment is.
EZselect · 1 points · Posted at 23:29:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Shit, for real? Trying to delete.
gFQfBbmSO6 · -1 points · Posted at 19:09:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So you are saying this isn't news worthy ? Jeez you are hard to please. I wonder if you were the dictator, what would reach the "news" bar you'd set.
EZselect · 5 points · Posted at 19:11:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I quipped about how often we see news about Musk on reddit and you said I'm hard to please? That's a leap.
PolarTheBear · -3 points · Posted at 19:53:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You’re definitely implying that this isn’t news-worthy. With the recent stories about Facebook and Elon Musk being the first big name that I’ve heard of delete the Facebook page for a company, I’d argue that it’s worth noting.
EZselect · 1 points · Posted at 23:34:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Please tell me more about what I’m implying. It is literally a comment about how Musk is on the front page just about every day on a myriad of subs. I don’t love or hate the guy, he is just all over reddit. Hence my comment.
PolarTheBear · -2 points · Posted at 00:04:25 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You seem to be implying that what he’s been doing is not newsworthy.
duckrollin · 0 points · Posted at 18:55:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Still more interesting to look at than Facebook
nowaymr · 0 points · Posted at 20:11:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
...Roll with it.
cunninglinguist96 · 0 points · Posted at 22:29:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
edit: no-one cares
L85a12 · 0 points · Posted at 06:40:56 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nobody cares what your highest rated comment is.
EZselect · 0 points · Posted at 13:15:13 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You stopped lurking just for me?? I’m honored.
moralesnery · -1 points · Posted at 18:41:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
maybe not here, but in /r/spacex that would be true.
poof312 · 2 points · Posted at 19:15:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's funny because SpaceX blew up Facebook's satellite in their launch explosion
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 20:12:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Woah, tell me more about Elons balls..
a_roody_poo · -2 points · Posted at 20:37:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Isn't he great?
a_roody_poo · -2 points · Posted at 20:37:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Isn't he great?
DiGiTaL_CuRReNCy · 19 points · Posted at 23:43:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let the revolution begin! #leaveFaceBook
[deleted] · 112 points · Posted at 17:17:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon musk looking at his social media properties like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60T_sg9D5JQ
MisterCheeks · 9 points · Posted at 18:59:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hey one of my emails is in that video!
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 18:59:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Ahh, I feel so cleansed. So fresh, and so clean."
wtfpwnkthx · 3 points · Posted at 19:46:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So happy StrongBad isn't dead.
Angry_Magpie · 2 points · Posted at 20:19:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's legitimately how I imagine he talks as well though
conyeighwest · 317 points · Posted at 18:58:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
“I didn’t realize there was one”
Lol man y’all fall for Elon hook line and sinker every time
Ihavetheinternets · 180 points · Posted at 19:31:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My multi billion dollar company has a Facebook page? Why I never......
GuiltySparklez0343 · 5 points · Posted at 20:38:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've seen their Facebook page, it got updated with like 1 post a week maybe, never seemed like something they cared much about, SpaceX isn't even public and tesla seems to be doing ok in the marketing department with the whole car in space thing.
dystopian_love · 28 points · Posted at 19:34:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah I was wondering if anyone else thought that was a strange comment.
iwviw · 17 points · Posted at 20:55:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He was obvs being sarcastic
Kurtismartin · 2 points · Posted at 22:36:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Totes magotes
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:00:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It just seems like he doesn't give a fuck. Of course he knows there was one. He just doesn't give a fuck.
Good luck to him! If his mission is to advance technology, he will succeed. If his mission is to take over the markets he acts in at the moment, he will fail. His companies are crumbs to the big ones.
Anyhow, it's a plus for all of us so kudos to him!
Obligatory: I don't know shit and am mostly talking out of my ass.
MightBeJerryWest · 1 points · Posted at 20:06:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s kudos btw!
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:08:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thanks! I spent way longer than I want to admit thinking about it. Couldn't be bothered to check google either...
EDIT: Why is it with a "k"? There are so few words in English that begin with "K"...
Brostoyevsky · 3 points · Posted at 20:51:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Plenty of words start with "k" - - kick, kill, kite - - but what's confusing is that we also use "c" for the same sound: see curt, crunch, and colony. No time for history of the English language, but if you Google it, then you'll learn the essential point: blame the French.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:07:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Was just gonna mention the French. They have so few words beginning with the letter K it's almost unbelievable.
Brostoyevsky · 2 points · Posted at 21:15:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep. And those k-initial words are mostly likely all loanwords from other languages. (I don't speak or read French though.) I believe we get our hard K from English's Germanic roots. We get both the hard C and the s-sounding c from French. Before those bastards invaded England in 1066, we used good ol' K for all those k sounds. (Literally though, William the Conqueror was first known as the Bastard.)
Would you like to know more?
(This is what happens when someone has office hours and no students show.)
Aeon_Mortuum · 2 points · Posted at 20:41:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
MORTAL KOMBAT (MK movie disco music plays)
SolidSolution · 1 points · Posted at 20:48:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If he doesn't give a fuck then why does he have to lie about it? He says he launched the car towards Mars in order to inspire people. How do you inspire people without utilizing the biggest social media platform? He definitely knew there was a SpaceX facebook.
AtomKanister · 3 points · Posted at 21:16:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you follow his Twitter, you'd know he posts weird stuff like that all the time.
Sometimes it's true (like the Tesla to Mars) but 95% of it is classic twitter shitposting
SPUNKFLAP · 8 points · Posted at 19:11:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lemme just imitate the masses real quick.
k3rn3 · 1 points · Posted at 19:42:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Imitating the masses would be creating the FB page. That is more the norm
Particularly for any type of business
SPUNKFLAP · -6 points · Posted at 19:44:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Okay then, "trends of the masses".
pnloyd · 1 points · Posted at 20:39:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's just satire.. just like half his other tweets. Drives me nuts poeple take everything he says seriously lol.
CajunTurkey · 0 points · Posted at 20:10:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You don't think that Reddit and Musky are in cahoots with each other?
[deleted] · 137 points · Posted at 19:08:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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MeIsMyName · 9 points · Posted at 21:50:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I guess all he needs to do now is to lawyer up and hit the gym.
Likes_Shiny_Things · 8 points · Posted at 22:43:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hit the lawyer and gym up.
WazWaz · 7 points · Posted at 21:48:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Social media is not inherently bad. There is no irony.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 00:05:40 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
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WazWaz · 1 points · Posted at 21:44:02 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit sold information to Cambridge Analytics?
frankichiro · 2 points · Posted at 22:42:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What's your sentiment here really? Things that happen online are stupid and pathetic?
And why are you even here?
saintgravity · 0 points · Posted at 10:55:07 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Spoken by a true Redditor.
mcgrimus · 11 points · Posted at 19:20:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
His productivity skyrockets.
BurntPaper · 1 points · Posted at 19:27:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Humans on Mars by 2019
rooktakesqueen · 9 points · Posted at 19:39:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
A headline involving Elon Musk, SpaceX, Tesla, Facebook, and Twitter? Jesus, throw in Bitcoin and GabeN and I've got bingo.
cuttheshiat · 5 points · Posted at 19:42:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hl3 confirmed
I'm sorry
ezagreb · 8 points · Posted at 22:14:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
FB has no real competition except aging out due to the younger kids not caring to have a presence there. Otherwise I doubt the average user is deleting their profile.
kleintrpt · 4 points · Posted at 22:28:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I did a couple of days ago. Not sure how many else around me did; didn't ask.
NotwankdsinceNAM · 3 points · Posted at 23:42:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I did too, saw zuck on TV and just thought I want to punch your face. But I can't, all I can do is delete Facebook.
nbdude75 · 8 points · Posted at 01:17:15 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I didn’t delete my accounts but I removed Facebook and Twitter from my phone and it felt good. I kept Reddit because Reddit is awesome.
Wrath_of_Trump · 8 points · Posted at 03:12:23 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's the really big names that are dealing major blows to social media, not simply the news stories. Rihanna hurt Snapchat pretty bad, people are starting to take notice. How much is your information worth? You're giving it out for free, when in fact companies should be paying you for access to advertise to you.
Imagine developing a model where people are incentivized to join by receiving a small payment from companies they allow to advertise to them. You select that you want to see X company, say Macy's and Chipotle, they will not have access to your private information but instead will be allowed to show ads to you like Facebook does. This is good for the company because instead of buying ads on Facebook and STILL getting ripped off by artificial reach limitations, you actually "buy" access to a real (phone-verified) person who opted-in to receive your marketing. It won't be a huge payment, but like Google adsense it will add up. Companies pay people for leads all the time, they pay huge teams to go out and look for people to market to, they might actually save money by simply paying subscribers directly. The social network itself could take a small cut like eBay to run its operations. Just a thought.
Lars_Sanchez · 1 points · Posted at 11:40:49 on March 28, 2018 · (Permalink)
It would take away a very substantial amount of power from large corporations. I like the idea, though I'm very pessimistic such a system would ever be implemented... I just can't picture US companies agree to such measures.
KorgRue · 67 points · Posted at 18:54:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well, looks like a couple social media teams just got pink slips this morning.
Bigdstars187 · 30 points · Posted at 19:25:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They were promoted to baristas in the lobby
phalewail · 2 points · Posted at 19:53:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They can make good morning money in Australia if they wanted to move here, but you'd have to have sleep with the deputy Prime Minister.
iushciuweiush · 8 points · Posted at 21:13:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
A couple of teams? You mean a couple of employees and they're not getting pink slips because it's probably only an occasional side project for them. Their social media presence is minuscule outside of major announcements or launches.
SharksPreedateTrees · 4 points · Posted at 19:56:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Rumor has it SpaceX pays barely more than minimum wage because of their notoriety. At least that's what some programmers told me
KorgRue · 2 points · Posted at 21:16:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wouldn't know, but I also would never want to work for Elon Musk.
RichGirlThrowaway_ · 1 points · Posted at 23:17:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah that one post a week their FB got must have required teams of people who are now unemployed. Or, you know, one of their guys has 15 minutes less work per week.
snugglerr · 6 points · Posted at 04:32:23 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Trump got help from Cambridge Analytica who used Facebook data to manipulate voters. I think this is good enough reason for me to leave Facebook
CoolBeansMan9 · 11 points · Posted at 19:16:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What about their Instagram? It's owned by Facebook. I don't see all these people deleting their Instagram too.
WorknForTheWeekend · 4 points · Posted at 19:50:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well, for most people their instagram has about as much PII as a photobucket album. Apples and Oranges
collapsing_sanity · 7 points · Posted at 21:14:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Personally identifiable information.
supers0nic · 1 points · Posted at 03:08:01 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
What about EXIF data? Can Instagram see that from photos people upload?
EDIT: So Google says that Instagram deletes EXIF data from photos when they’re uploaded. Whether or not Instagram gets two versions of the photo and just shows the one which you can’t extract data from, I’m not sure.
Nurizeko · 0 points · Posted at 19:40:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Asking attention whores to delete their selfie social media is like asking a fish to give up water, it's just not going to happen.
Both may be stealing info or whatever moral trendy panic is going on (as if you can have an internet presence and not leave a identity trace, unless you're paranoid and make staying hidden a full time job), but there are limits, damnit!
(You might have guessed I dislike attention whores & Instagram.)
sweetjaaane · 385 points · Posted at 17:14:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
lmao Twitter is just as guilty as Facebook though... like yeah delete FB but if you're going to do that, you should also delete Twitter.
iushciuweiush · 542 points · Posted at 17:47:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's not even remotely the same though. Significantly more information that can be garnered from my facebook page than from my twitter page.
Edit: Fixed some grammar without changing the message.
TrumpWonSorryLibs · 12 points · Posted at 19:47:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't think you can measure an amount of information in light years
iushciuweiush · 7 points · Posted at 20:16:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This comment is light years wrong.
TrumpWonSorryLibs · 2 points · Posted at 20:41:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
well then why'd you edit your comment lol
iushciuweiush · 2 points · Posted at 20:58:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I felt my advanced usage of the term, though accurate, was confusing people and distracting from the message.
FoxRaptix · 2 points · Posted at 20:19:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't know, i think there's probably a lot more information than you know that can be harvested about you from sites like twitter.
Just like reddit, people probably think there's not much information that can be gathered here. But even the CEO himself said they know a lot more about you than you'd think
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:07:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Excalibur457 · 29 points · Posted at 19:20:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s almost as if the people who don’t know or care about this shit (ie the average person) aren’t the same people circlejerking about how this will be the end of Facebook (read: most of reddit, whose most vocal users consist mainly of introverts and techies — not exactly Facebook’s target demographic).
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 19:32:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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K20BB5 · 3 points · Posted at 20:50:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Downloading the app is giving them it. You agree to those permissions when you install it. I don't use their apps for that very reason.
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 19:38:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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mynameisvlad · 8 points · Posted at 19:44:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This isn't nearly as dire as you're making it seem. You no longer tap "next" when installing to grant access, they're using the new Android (and iOS) permission model where permissions are requested when you use specific features that require them. So if you want to use their built-in camera, you'll need to give access to that, but otherwise you don't give them camera (or microphone) access.
Same for the data they request. Don't want to give them your contacts (they don't request call logs, but this is close enough), then when it asks you if you want to import contacts, say no or Deny the permission. Don't want them to see your photos? Don't allow it, but then you won't be able to upload your selfies. It all happens as it goes and apps are required to accept either response, accept or deny, for any of the requests. You don't have to give them any more data than you want to.
In the end, they also don't have access to "everything" just "a lot of things" on Android and "some things" on iOS.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:18:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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mynameisvlad · 2 points · Posted at 20:33:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As I already said above, they don't have access to your call logs. At all. In fact, they have access to nothing by default. In both Android and iOS, the app will specifically request a permission when it needs it.
This is the list of permissions and some of the things they're used for in Android:
The equivalent iOS list is:
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:44:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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mynameisvlad · 2 points · Posted at 21:16:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Android introduced the new permission model 3 years ago, but yes, devices older than that would have them all or nothing.
However, that list was taken from the Play Store itself, so it's all of the permissions they ask for, regardless of the method they do so.
If you follow the Twitter thread, a lot of people can't reproduce what he saw, and he himself admitted the data is for a specific time window and not current. Others think it might have been the Messenger app or as a result of allowing access for some SMS/Call integration feature. There's no record of the permissions Facebook has requested in the past, but call logs is not one they request right now.
Edit: I just checked, and Messenger does indeed have "read call log" under its phone permissions. Messenger Lite is their lightweight alternative that doesn't have this feature, so it's probably related to the aforementioned SMS/Call integration in Messenger. The tweeter specifically mentioned enabling that feature at a certain point, so he must've given the app permission to access the logs at that point. That's the permission system working as designed.
cocobandicoot · 2 points · Posted at 20:11:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lol, do you have a Gmail account? Do you use an Android phone?
Oh, you do? Well then I guess you need to get rid of them, because I can almost guarantee that Google knows just as much, if not more, about you. And their entire business model is... selling that info.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 20:33:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Replicant on an S3 with the GPS radio removed and a burner sim for VOIP and an open source decentralized VPN. I have my own local encrypted mail server. I don't have a google account.
I use cock.li for a burner email for sign ups and shit.
cocobandicoot · 3 points · Posted at 20:38:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lol 99% of people don't know a single thing about what you just said.
This is why free services like Google and Facebook will never die.
Aesho · 1 points · Posted at 19:46:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because why not? They'll get that info regardless of what I do. I just don't care anymore. I don't care if Facebook sells my bio to an advertiser or whatever. I don't even use it anymore.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:48:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Aesho · 1 points · Posted at 20:00:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I use to be super pro-privacy. Especially when I was younger. SOPA was a huge deal because I seriously thought the end of the internet was coming (I was like 13 at the time) reddit made a huge deal about SOPA, and it didn't pass. Then the next big bill came and then the next. Then I just stopped caring. I have shit in my life to deal with. I just don't care about my privacy anymore. They can have it all. They can watch me watch porn for all I care.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:30:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why give up your privacy? Whats stopping the government from installing cameras in your home?
Private companies already do, samsung TVs record your conversations to sell you shit and some even have cameras.
Aesho · 0 points · Posted at 20:33:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That first scenario isn't happening. I believe if it got to that people would fight back. I don't see that as a realistic thing, but I don't own a TV. I have my laptops camera taped over and the mic plugged. That is pretty much as far as I go when it comes to my privacy.
FakeSoap · 0 points · Posted at 19:58:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
From now until the day you die, how will your life be any different if they have your info vs if they don’t?
KriistofferJohansson · 2 points · Posted at 20:44:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
From now, and until any of us die, can you guarantee it won't affect anyone's lives? That's the point people are making - no one can say that with an absolute certainty. We have to trust absolute strangers, who can sell the information to make money.
iushciuweiush · 1 points · Posted at 20:28:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who said I do? I don't think you understand how data algorithms and analytics works. My profile page consists of my name and location. That's it. That is information the government themselves sell to all kinds of companies against my will like the USPS to advertisers and area businesses and the state to political campaigns. The real information is in the background. When a company like Cambridge accesses your profile information, they don't get a picture of your front page, they get a list of all of your connections, your likes, your views, your friends and their views, likes, posts, pictures, ect. I could have absolutely nothing but my name on my profile and use facebook for nothing more than a news aggregate and liking friends posts, and an algorithm can be created to put all of that data together into a profile, not unlike a criminal profiler for the police might put together, but 100x more complicated and in depth.
Souless04 · 0 points · Posted at 20:16:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I really couldn't give a shit about what FB does with the info I have there. The most harm that could happen to me is if they gave my phone numbers to solicitors. At most, that would be annoying. This Ars Technica shit doesn't effect me.
splim · 1 points · Posted at 20:21:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook is streets ahead of Twitter...
Did...did I use that correctly?
Fuckingtwat69 · -4 points · Posted at 18:53:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why do people like yourself put so much information out there?
iushciuweiush · 29 points · Posted at 18:58:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't. The real meat is in the overall data. Just analyzing what types of articles someone clicks on, what groups they follow, and what friends posts they frequently 'like' can paint an entire personality profile and a rough picture of their life and views. It's not like I list every single detail of my life on my profile.
red5standingby375 · 8 points · Posted at 19:17:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Exactly. You can garner a lot of information from what people watch, watch 'till the end, click, "like," or literally any other recorded interaction. To the user, they might not even have a picture of them up there, but that doesn't mean Facebook doesn't have a lot of data on you.
It's built in such a way that, if you're using it at all, significant data is being collected on you. Even if you don't tag pictures or post phone numbers.
PolarTheBear · 1 points · Posted at 19:55:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Maybe I’m just really dumb, but why is it so bad that they have/sell this information? None of it is important or really that private? I don’t really use Facebook but I’m interested as to what they have that people don’t want them to have, or at least what can impact their lives in any way.
Niomeister · 4 points · Posted at 19:02:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because FB also sells private messages...
dahjay · 6 points · Posted at 19:18:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No they don't.
Niomeister · 3 points · Posted at 19:49:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
source
dahjay · 1 points · Posted at 20:14:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ok but the dude who was quoted worked there in 2011 and 2012 which was before CA had access to the data in 2015 and, from what I understand, the loopholes that CA exposed on FB are no longer available.
I've seen the private message data and it's an absolute shit show. You need technology to piece the data back together to make it remotely useful.
dr-cringe · 0 points · Posted at 19:20:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But the issue isn’t how much personal info was leaked. It’s about the leaked personal info, no matter how little it is.
iushciuweiush · 2 points · Posted at 20:19:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sure but the only option to 'protect all data from leaking' is to disconnect from the digital age altogether. That's just not an option for most people. I enjoy some of the things social media provides. I enjoy some of the features my smart phone provides. In this case, it's about minimizing instead of eliminating.
LanceThunder · 336 points · Posted at 17:35:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
twitter is not innocent but it is not nearly as guilty as facebook when it comes to invading our privacy.
DenormalHuman · 51 points · Posted at 18:39:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But what is the unit of measure for guilt?
RandomUser1138A · 71 points · Posted at 19:07:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Guiltons per second.
Fitzzz · 8 points · Posted at 19:38:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So that's what powers my wife, it all makes sense now!
BadLuckProphet · 7 points · Posted at 19:39:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well they're about to be formally recognized as Zuckerbergs.
I.E. face book is one Zuckerberg guilty, Twitter is between .25-.5 Zuckerbergs, and the NSA is probably like 5 Zuckerbergs.
Katyona · 5 points · Posted at 18:55:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You don't need a unit of measurement as long as you have something to reference from.
Example; Someone is going fast at an unknown speed, and another person drives past them.. You can know that the second person is going faster than them by comparing their positions at any two points in time and taking the difference in distance.
Twitter is going forward into the guilt axis at a speed slower than Facebook, regardless of unit.
tacolikesweed · 4 points · Posted at 19:12:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The amount of data that can be mined. My tweets are less than 100 characters most of the time and they have my contact info/who I follow, whereas my facebook has full conversations between users, in groups, pictures that have locations, music tastes, things I like, things I follow, all my friends, my contact info, etc. The unit is, for lack of a better word, information.
Walkerg2011 · 10 points · Posted at 18:46:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Also, how can they say that for certain? How can they confirm that for any social media?
LeMot-Juste · 10 points · Posted at 19:03:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter remains anonymous. Users are not attached to real people unless they choose to use their real names.
Facebook FORCES users to use their their real names, photograph their driver's licenses and even demands personal facial photos. Face book has "fun" quizzes and tests where idiots basically spill out their whole lives for Facebook to sell.
There is a big difference.
LanceThunder · 9 points · Posted at 18:49:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
because its my job to understand these sorts of things. i've spent over a decade studying and working in social media. the information twitter could collect on a person isn't nearly as invasive as what facebook is doing. not by a long shot.
sweetjaaane · 3 points · Posted at 19:05:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Congrats, me too.
MyNamesNotTaylor · 2 points · Posted at 19:11:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd say "selling user data" is a notch better than than "knowingly selling user data to a false propaganda company". But yeah both are shitty.
jerschneid · 2 points · Posted at 19:30:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Schrute bucks
notverified · 1 points · Posted at 19:00:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
this person asks
DonkeyLightning · 1 points · Posted at 19:26:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
1 schrute buck equals 2 guilts
Deadeadoe · 1 points · Posted at 19:29:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's measured by Likes
Butt_Putnam · 1 points · Posted at 19:29:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Newton meters.
Quipore · 1 points · Posted at 19:32:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"There is no such thing as innocence; only degrees of guilt." (Warhammer 40k)
pieman7414 · 1 points · Posted at 21:13:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
mooches/gigabyte inch
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:20:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't know. Twitter apparently has employees that look at your DMs and see your dick picks.
GoldenMechaTiger · 1 points · Posted at 02:50:06 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
People use dms on twitter?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:31:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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LanceThunder · 1 points · Posted at 19:53:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
that just scratches the surface. i am confident that they have all sorts of other things on you that you don't even realize. they can extrapolate all sorts of information on you based on how you use the site. they probably have in-depth psychological profiles on just about everyone in the developed world.
aManPerson · 1 points · Posted at 18:53:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
not as guilty invading privacy, but they could do more to stop bots. twitter doesn't remove them because it helps inflate numbers.
12g87 · -2 points · Posted at 18:44:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It is not invading your privacy. You agree to let FB use your data. You post your info for the entire world to see.
LanceThunder · 2 points · Posted at 18:52:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
FB is collecting information on you even if you never agree to their TOS. if you have friends on FB they have a file on you. if people who use FB use your computer, they have a file on you. even if you do agree to their TOS, what they gather on you is so far over the line it is disgusting and could be used to threaten the very fabric of society.
NUZdreamer · 1 points · Posted at 19:54:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If all they know about you is what your friends say, then tell your friends to not share those details on facebook. If my friends post a selfie of me and them, is it really facebooks fault? Is it your fault if I tell you about my friend Simon, that he likes WH40K and you just happen to have a brain and remember that information?
If you let your friends use facebook at your house, facebook sees a login from an unknown position, of course facebook will think you either bought a new house, someone hacked you or you're at your friends house.
12g87 · -2 points · Posted at 18:55:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I would suggest not using their services then. I have never had it and never will, but I hear people who say they can't stand FB but continue to use it.
LanceThunder · 3 points · Posted at 18:55:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
as i just said, they collect information on you even if you don't use their service.
12g87 · 1 points · Posted at 19:19:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I can assure you they have no info on me.
LanceThunder · 2 points · Posted at 19:24:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
i can assure you that unless you have always taken extraordinary measures to stay off their radar they certainly do have info on you. even if that is that case, they have so much power and control over the people you care about that it doesn't really matter.
12g87 · 0 points · Posted at 19:25:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Control to do what? Try to sell people things they don't want to buy?
LanceThunder · 2 points · Posted at 19:33:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
believe the unbelievable. vote for people who absolutely will not serve in the best interest of the people. blackmail. riots. war. if you have been paying attention at all over the past couple of years you will have noticed these things.
12g87 · 1 points · Posted at 19:40:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Those thing are not the problem. They are just a symptom. The problem is that people let a website think for them and have no self control. If everyone stops using FB they will simply go out of business.
sweetjaaane · 2 points · Posted at 19:40:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Convince people to vote for people they normally wouldn't vote for. My mother wanted Ted Cruz (who Cambridge Analytica was working for before working for Trump) to win in the Republican Primary. She has no reason to like Cruz at all, she isn't a Christian and she has only ever lived in large Mid Atlantic/North East cities. She's not even white. She is also obsessed with Facebook and taking Facebook quizzes. It never made sense to me why she wanted to vote for Ted Cruz at all until I saw what CA did with Facebook.
NUZdreamer · 1 points · Posted at 19:56:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Maybe political believes aren't always based on religion, heritage or race. Maybe she just agrees with conservative views.
sweetjaaane · 1 points · Posted at 19:59:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There were 10+ other conservatives in the primaries she could've chosen (she loved the Bush presidency, why didn't she go with Jeb?). For reference, she usually votes the same as my dad, he wanted Scott Walker to win. He does not use Facebook.
NUZdreamer · 1 points · Posted at 21:10:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't know what to tell you, but bloodlines didn't help Jeb. Ted Cruz was the second most popular candidate, so voting for him was seen as a chance against Trump.
sweetjaaane · 1 points · Posted at 21:22:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My mom supports Trump, she wasn’t afraid of him winning. I asked why Cruz out of everyone and she said “Idk I like him”
You don’t have to tell me anything, I know why she went for Cruz and it all goes back to her obsession with taking Facebook quizzes.
V3rzamm · 100 points · Posted at 17:37:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter and facebook are two different things. I don't use either of them but I'm willing to acknowledge that both platforms are different and facebook is the shittier of the two. At this point you are basically screaming 'lul fuck social media' while commenting on a thread on a social media site
sweetjaaane · 7 points · Posted at 17:39:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean I'm just pointing out that Elon Musk is making a big deal about how bad Facebook is on another social media site that also mines user data and sells that data to whoever wants to buy it. It's not like Twitter's business ethos is better than Facebook's, they just haven't leveraged their product as effectively. And of course this applies to Reddit as well.
CricketDrop · 20 points · Posted at 17:50:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He deleted a social media account he didn't know existed. What's a small deal?
BurntHotdogVendor · 3 points · Posted at 18:57:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How did you quote something that isn't in his comment?
CricketDrop · 1 points · Posted at 19:18:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Whoops you're right
steevdave · 1 points · Posted at 19:12:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You really believe he had no idea that they had a Facebook page?
CricketDrop · 1 points · Posted at 19:19:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't know if he did or didn't, but it's not unfeasible that the CEO or a similarly ranking official in a company does not know about or pay attention to their social media accounts.
Creator13 · 2 points · Posted at 21:20:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He is very aware of the Instagram accounts though, so why not Facebook? I think a guy like Elon Musk would know.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 18:30:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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FINDarkside · 0 points · Posted at 19:36:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You need to give your phone number for twitter though. Forcing users to give phone number just for reading tweets is pretty aggressive data gathering in my opinion.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:46:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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FINDarkside · 1 points · Posted at 20:08:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You need to login to view the "tweets and responses" for example. When you register without providing phone number, twitter will suspend your account after a while unless you provide a phone number. They say that they detected "bot like activity" or something shady like that, even though everyone gets the same thing regardless of whether they even have any "activity". My bad though, I can still read responses with suspended accounts, I just need to give them my phone number if I want to tweet something. This is not a new problem, there are over two year old tutorials on how to bypass the phone number requirement.
MjrK · 2 points · Posted at 18:07:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's not a big deal, Reddit just upvotes anything with Musk in the title. Add that to the recent Facebook hysteria and you get a lot of upvoting redittors.
sold_snek · 1 points · Posted at 18:37:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He didn't even make a big deal out of it. He just said "Didn't know I had one, but it's deleted now. It was ugly anyway."
mikebrady · 0 points · Posted at 18:32:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Did you read the article? He didn't make a big deal about it.
DenormalHuman · 1 points · Posted at 18:39:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Its not the platform, it's the data
ayane_m · 1 points · Posted at 19:03:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is reddit really a social media site? It seems more like a bulletin board or a forum because users are, largely, anonymous. Although this is changing, now with the new user profiles and whatnot...
V3rzamm · 1 points · Posted at 19:04:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Though I agree that it certainly isn't the same as any other site I still think at its core reddit is some form of social media
ayane_m · 3 points · Posted at 19:22:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hmm, fair enough. It's a social media site, but not really a social networking site.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:50:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Some niche subs would disagree.
Noctroglyph · 1 points · Posted at 20:10:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That’s like bitching about government snooping while posting vacation photos live on twitter.
We_Are_For_The_Big · 1 points · Posted at 17:44:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No, Twitter is way fucking more toxic. And so many bots.
Maxerature · 12 points · Posted at 17:53:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The toxicity isn't the point, the company policy is much worse than Twitter. I don't use either, but when somebody like mike fuckerburg blatantly insults users repeatedly, that's when you stop using a service.
sweetjaaane · 1 points · Posted at 19:06:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean have you seen the way Spez responds to users though...
Maxerature · 1 points · Posted at 19:16:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
to be honest I have not. I don't use either service, but I hear a lot about zuckerburg.
metalshiflet · 2 points · Posted at 19:31:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Spez is lead reddit admin, big shit head too
Maxerature · 1 points · Posted at 19:55:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ah alright, I thought he was from twitter.
I just stay in my subreddits and on the main page, I don't interract with admins much.
SwoleFlex_MuscleNeck · 9 points · Posted at 18:23:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We are going to keep using social media. But we will abandon them when they go too far. Whether or not it's too late is a different discussion
MulderD · 13 points · Posted at 18:22:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter is just as toxic but way more efficient about it.
Twitter has helped the dumbing down happen at a much faster rate.
dahjay · 1 points · Posted at 19:33:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter can sway stock markets. You see guys like Icahn and Ackman who tweet and make markets for their advantage.
RealGoodThingNow · 11 points · Posted at 17:32:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Starting to feel really good about never getting into the facebook/social media craze. I mean, I'm sure there's a profile on me somewhere that some data miner has made, but for a few brief seconds before I remember that, I get to feel good about using facebook for a whole month in 2008 before giving up on it.
EDIT: If you read my whole comment you'll see the words I'm sure there's a profile on me somewhere that some data miner has made, and that goes for reddit. Besides, I don't consider reddit social media the same way that facebook and twitter are. Reddit doesn't ask for my phone number when signing up.
sweetjaaane · 22 points · Posted at 17:36:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit has a file on you.
RealGoodThingNow · 5 points · Posted at 17:49:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you read my whole comment you'll see the words I'm sure there's a profile on me somewhere that some data miner has made, and that goes for reddit. Besides, I don't consider reddit social media the same way that facebook and twitter are. Reddit doesn't ask for my phone number when signing up.
itty53 · 9 points · Posted at 17:54:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And they really love you for that. Reddit has more data on you than Facebook. They can guess more about you than Facebook. Promise. Behavioral analytics doesn't give a damn about your phone number.
MooseEater · 1 points · Posted at 18:30:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm not quite as concerned about that if they don't know who I am. They know 'me' in the behavioral sense, but the problem people have with facebook is the worry that, if their data is divorced from them as a face/name, it is only because they are trusting someone at facebook to divorce the two. Now, I'm not saying that Reddit actually doesn't know who I am, because cookies could probably tell them, but there is a comfortability difference between 'they could find out' and 'I'm directly telling them'.
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 18:31:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And you're more comfortable with the former?? Am I reading this right?
MooseEater · 2 points · Posted at 18:47:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes? Why would willingly giving them more personal information be better?
I am far more comfortable with someone taking the list of public information I've disseminated and building a personality profile of me.
One is using my web behavior to build a profile.
One is using my name, photos throughout my life, who my friends are, where I live, the content of conversations I have with my friends (including private messages), who my employer is and work history, where I went to school, what my profession is, what products I like, who I've dated, my real-time location, whose profiles I look at how many times, and my web behavior. How is that better? It's exactly the other option, plus 100 more things.
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 18:58:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because that's a decision you make about your information.
SaysReddit · 1 points · Posted at 19:04:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They're gonna take it either way. Might as well limit what you can.
MooseEater · 1 points · Posted at 19:17:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You make the decision to give Facebook that information. Not to have it used in the way it's being used. I don't make the decision for Facebook to use my cookies to see what I buy and what other websites I visit.
I could just as easily say posting on Reddit is a decision you make about your information. The problem isn't that the information is out there, the problem is when someone misrepresents how that information will be used. When they tell you it's lockable behind privacy settings. That's where the trust comes in. That's where the comfortability comes in. People have to be able to trust Facebook to use it. I don't trust Reddit to protect my information, and they don't really even pretend to. It's all public. I know this. People who use Reddit know this, and they don't care very much. They just don't want it attached to their personal information.
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 17:43:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not if you keep deleting your posts/accounts and making new ones every few months or so.
itty53 · 5 points · Posted at 17:55:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As long as you're acting the same on those accounts, they can make a fingerprint that is startlingly accurate. Just based on the way you type, words you use, etc. Those things don't change with a username.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:00:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's definitely true.
I posted a question in another thread about these profiles that are created on people. If I completely adblock/scriptblock my internet experience, and only use reddit (casually), am I still "micro-targetting" by companies like Cambridge Analytica? I'm just confused how that sort of stuff works.
TumblrInGarbage · 1 points · Posted at 19:41:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sure you are, but in a more general sense. The Russian operated accounts for example. So what they do is put agents into large communities that you partake in. These agents know how and what to say to manipulate the community. Maybe they do it very slightly, and only do their goal through what appears to be a joke. Maybe their only goal is to make a community have a greater preference for a certain brand. Maybe it's Maybelline.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:49:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Gotcha! This makes the most sense to me definitely.
SwoleFlex_MuscleNeck · 1 points · Posted at 18:27:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't think you recognize how samey redditors become after a while. Using the same sentence structure and the same attitude of response as each other. It's like a highschool.
itty53 · 2 points · Posted at 18:27:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Machines are way better at discerning those differences than humans. All of this stuff is automated.
SwoleFlex_MuscleNeck · 1 points · Posted at 22:15:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
All of what stuff? The hypothetical forensics to track down a person's alt accounts on Reddit?
Do tell.
MjrK · 2 points · Posted at 18:20:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just from looking at the subreddits you read in the past 24h and the kinds of responses you've made so far (or typed half-way then deleted), a well-trained model might be able to guess with some impressiveness which subs you are likely to visit in the next 30 days and eliminate a majority of subs your are very likely not to visit.
For targeted advertising, I don't care that much about your personal details.. the whole point is getting more bucks from advertisers for high-quality targeting. For that purpose, as long as I have a massive number of users interacting with the application and making decisions, I can build a quite powerful model of user behavioral patterns and content interests which will allow me to get better ad revenue through my app.
Changing accounts is probably not a bad idea if you are worried someone is interested in you personally - maybe you have a lot of money, or personal relationships that demand that, or whatever. But if that's the case and I already knew you personally for some other reason, your changing accounts is just giving you a false sense of security. You need way more secure measures or just stay offline and don't use a personal phone.
Kittens4Brunch · 1 points · Posted at 17:53:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People can do the same with other social media platforms too, but no one does it.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:24:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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sweetjaaane · 1 points · Posted at 19:09:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
which is ironic because Russians definitely bought 8 year old accounts to make it seem like they weren't shilling
TumblrInGarbage · 1 points · Posted at 19:46:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They do so on a regular basis even still. Yesterday I saw a top post from a 4 year old account that was inactive until 4 or so hours before, when it started doing reposts.
TumblrInGarbage · 13 points · Posted at 17:38:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit is social media.
We_Are_For_The_Big · 7 points · Posted at 17:44:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Bruh this site is social media. Social media is here to stay.
SwoleFlex_MuscleNeck · 2 points · Posted at 18:25:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's about as much of a "craze" as cell phones and the internet.
It's not going away just because people get tired of Facebook.
conyeighwest · 2 points · Posted at 19:01:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Bless your fucking heart lmao
samwisesmokedadro · 2 points · Posted at 19:03:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, if anyone is curious as to how Twitter was being exploited should listen to this Slate Trumpcast episode where they interviewed an information warfare expert Molly McKew.
Molly goes into detail on how Twitter bots set up these networks that effectively amplify genuine tweets from Americans. Like the guy behind the #Releasethememo had 80 followers, but one of them was this known bot which linked his account to a network of other accounts to get that hashtag out there. It's a lot more complex than people understand.
TheInfra · 2 points · Posted at 20:02:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter has no photo album functionality whatsoever. You can post photos, but no tagging people, no relating the albums to locations/bussinesses/landmarks.
No information on what do I like (Brands, Entertainment, Politics, etc.). Following is different. I can just as easily unfollow someone and even then, what they post has the same presence on my timeline than anything else.
No information on connections (friends) just other accounts that I follow and who follow me, but no way of really knowing who is an actual person, a content creator or an organization.
No check-ins to places. No Groups I'm part of. No Events I attend. No "Life Milestones". No Education, Professional or Hobby data.
No data from other Apps that connect to it (Like Spotify, Waze, YouTube, etc.) Just what I explicitly post.
There are dozens more.
a_trane13 · 2 points · Posted at 18:51:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
lol you're joking right? Twitter operates like other websites. Facebook operates like the NSA.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:08:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Funny thing is, the NSA has backdoors into the backbones of nearly every tech company. There's slides from the snowden docs showing they were all compromised since at least 2012.
a_trane13 · 2 points · Posted at 19:45:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh absolutely. It's just that they get a lot more information doing that to Facebook than Twitter.
random123456789 · 3 points · Posted at 18:10:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It reminds me of people protesting for the environment while continuing to buy a new iphone every year. Just stupid virtue signalling.
SwoleFlex_MuscleNeck · 1 points · Posted at 18:25:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That isn't what virtue signalling is for one, and you're implying that one must become captain planet before they can ever take a small step toward change.
It's false and makes it look like you haven't really thought through your position.
random123456789 · 4 points · Posted at 18:36:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
From Wiki
It is indeed virtue signalling.
The people I am describing join these protests without understanding what they are protesting (at least beyond the surface level) or maybe even without believing any of it. They are there only because they think it increases their standing among the group.
But at the end of the day, they still do whatever they want... because again, they don't have any understanding.
You. must. think.
Halvus_I · 2 points · Posted at 17:43:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I have tweeted Elon several times that using twitter for official photos and such is in poor taste. They should be running their own archives from Spacex.com with public facing access. Then link that to twatter.
doobyrocks · 2 points · Posted at 18:51:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you use FB, Instagram, WhatsApp for massaging, Facebook has your entire social graph and conversations. Twitter is not in the same league.
sweetjaaane · 3 points · Posted at 18:52:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, not yet it isn't but it's not like Twitter isn't trying. You can use Twitter to log into other websites and apps, you don't think Twitter is using this information?
caninehere · 2 points · Posted at 18:55:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter is completely different though. You don't go up and down posting private information all over your Twitter... you get a little blurb about yourself, and you get your tweets and replies, and then you have DMs.
Apparently CA scraped EVERYTHING at FB. EVERYTHING. Private messages included. Even Facebook employees were datamined. There's a big difference between that and Twitter which as far as we know isn't exposing people and who may or may not be slidin' into their DMs... just selling data based on hashtags and twitter trends, content of peoples' feeds, etc. Facebook has emails, phone numbers, addresses, employer information, and much more. Not to mention all the other data they harvest we don't know about/add directly to profiles/events/groups ourselves (or at least other people, personally I don't touch that shit).
That said Twitter is hardly innocent in other ways, having contributed significantly to the rise of the alt-right in the US in particular. But Facebook and Twitter are not the same, just as Twitter and reddit are not the same.
unloader86 · 1 points · Posted at 19:34:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So if I don't have any employer info, phone numbers, addresses, etc on my Facebook profile I'm good ya?
crazyrich · 1 points · Posted at 19:40:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hey look at me! I don't use either!
ChrysMYO · 1 points · Posted at 20:04:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was looking for this comment. Social media is the problem, the specific platform is irrelevant.
To be candid, couldn't tell you how to stop it if we wanted to
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:40:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter doesn't force you to use your real name/identity though, unless you start to get a large following and want to be verified.
pnloyd · 1 points · Posted at 20:42:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter is the instrument of Elon Musks most amazing Gorilla marketing machine of all time. He financially bootstraped Boring co. by selling nonsense from tweets. 0_0
xoctor · 1 points · Posted at 05:14:46 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Guilty in the same way a shoplifter is just as guilty of theft as an armed bank robber.
LordGarrius · 1 points · Posted at 18:56:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter does not gather nearly the same level of data as Facebook, though.
Twitter lets folks understand your thoughts. Facebook gives the ability to decipher your entire existence.
sold_snek · 0 points · Posted at 18:37:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're not going to see nearly as much on Twitter as you would on Facebook, dude.
DenormalHuman · 4 points · Posted at 18:40:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
its not what people see, it's the data the company can gather and what they do with it
1_________________11 · 0 points · Posted at 19:48:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I can give twitter fake info and it doesn't ask me to send them a picture of my drives licence
MrsFlip · 1 points · Posted at 23:58:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is Facebook asking for drivers licenses?
1_________________11 · 2 points · Posted at 00:41:21 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
When you change your name to something or make a account with a non standard name they ask for photo id.
MrsFlip · 1 points · Posted at 02:03:48 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Huh didn't know that. My facebook has a fake name, lucky they never asked me. Bet they will now lol.
lity123 · -1 points · Posted at 19:19:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So is reddit
triguenx · 6 points · Posted at 00:11:00 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Plot twist: Musk drops the next hottest social media site and this was just foreshadowing
doctor_dai · 5 points · Posted at 00:38:21 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s a start to getting back into touch with the real world. The internet really did turn daily social interactions into just notifications on a phone. It’s a shame how sad this world is, when the world is looking down when we should be looking up.
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[deleted] · 167 points · Posted at 17:37:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This Elon guy might be going places!
Vanilla_Buddha · 115 points · Posted at 17:41:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He's just trying to get home.
HelloNeo · 15 points · Posted at 18:41:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Mars has better booze and tits.
[deleted] · 26 points · Posted at 18:51:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
38% of Earth gravity, 62% less sag.
GrimaceTheButtPlug · 7 points · Posted at 19:18:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This guy gets it.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:09:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Dude I never thought about that!
jfranzen8705 · 5 points · Posted at 19:02:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This week on naked and afraid...Elon Musk is dropped on Urth and must make it back home on his own.
[deleted] · 59 points · Posted at 18:57:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Good, it's working" -Musk's PR team
red5standingby375 · 2 points · Posted at 19:33:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lol. Someone does something cool and it always has to be some nefarious plot to win over the minds of the peasants. PR isn't necessarily a bad thing! I wish more PR was built from people doing legit things.
JohnDalysBAC · 13 points · Posted at 19:26:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
lol. It's pure pandering by Musk and you are falling for it.
Brocktoon_in_a_jar · 1 points · Posted at 18:59:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
check out his baller pics on Instagram! What a principled fellow!
JonathanL73 · 2 points · Posted at 18:46:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon Musk the Hero we need but don't deserve
EternalPropagation · -5 points · Posted at 20:09:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You mean the guy who's spending his billions on sending cars into space instated of feeding Africa's growing population that's STARVING right now!
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EternalPropagation · -1 points · Posted at 21:19:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's not HIS money, the money belongs to the proletariat!
GoldenMechaTiger · 1 points · Posted at 02:52:18 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You are spending time on reddit when you could be out there making money or growing food to help those poor africans! You are an awful person.
EternalPropagation · 1 points · Posted at 03:03:08 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Money is a capitalist construct. No thanks!
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cleeder · 13 points · Posted at 19:32:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Screenshot shared to Instagram.
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dnl101 · 1 points · Posted at 20:44:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't care much about musk but I doubt it. He never seemed that much of a hypocrite.
andrewjhart · 5 points · Posted at 19:56:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon is a true r/madlad
fieldhome · 6 points · Posted at 21:50:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Delete facebook if you are the man?" Bet he didnt think that would work..
6CyOXbt-mq5E_hvYlT4m · 5 points · Posted at 22:41:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Where can I pick up my hipster badge? I deleted Facebook before it was cool!
Cabra8 · 6 points · Posted at 00:50:48 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Give me a new Tesla and a million dollars if you're the man.
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 01:00:23 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is there anything St. Elon can’t do?
Kedaism · 4 points · Posted at 15:00:16 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Top 10 anime betrayals
RobustMarquis · 49 points · Posted at 18:41:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How is he gonna fly into space with those steel balls
yammertime27 · 13 points · Posted at 19:04:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This really isn't that ballsy, it's not like he's particularly going against the grain here
IndicaChelsea · 24 points · Posted at 17:23:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can someone Eli5 whats going on with Facebook??
Chairboy · 16 points · Posted at 18:01:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In addition to what others said, the datamining appears to have also been used specifically to manipulate some high profile elections. It's not just 'lol people saw dank memes or ads they didn't like', there's some actual world-changing shit happening as a consequence.
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 18:53:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Were the people who were targeted literally seeing different, even fake news? Some people seem to get all of their news and opinion from social media now.
drawn_boy · 12 points · Posted at 19:07:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's difficult to really get into it without typing a buttload, but I'ma try. You're correct, a vastly large and uncomfortable number of people get their information from social media, like Facebook. A lot of oess computer savvy folk don't realize that what's shown to you on Facebook is targeted. And the way that targeting worked is that over the years, every time you do anything on Facebook that could be used to place you into certain demographics, it's logged. And there's certain likes that only Democrats would probably like, or certain pages that are Republican. Simple examples there being say, if you like a Planned Parenthood page, you're probably a democrat, and if you like an NRA page, you're Republican. Using all this in an agregate can give you relatively accurate groupings.
When it comes to targeting articles and ads at people, you run into issues of not showing both sides, and a lot of bi-partisan issues. Some people claim that Rebuplican pages were targeted to not show up during the election, others claim the opposite. Either way the problem at hand is that Facebook has enough info on you to know these demographics. And while all this doesnt matter if you don't activly let pages and groups access your likes and information. But what recently came to light is there has been pages that are able to access your friends likes and information. So even if I don't do anything, if your friends are answering surveys and doing other things on Facebook, it can indirectly lead to your information being obtained as well.
That's one part of it. There's also eveidence now I believe that private data was being given to other groups, not Facebook directly, through means of Facebook's apps and games and similar.
Most of this type of stuff has long been assumed, but we are just now getting large media attention and common non-tech savvy people are being exposed to it. As well Zuckerberg was recently summoned by Congress, so it now has tied into politics somewhat, meaning it was just what more media attention and traction.
Chairboy · 4 points · Posted at 18:59:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yep, russian disinformation. Conspiracy theories about political opponents, political memes, fake news stories, the whole gamut. They did microtargeting and friended people to put on media feeds that would be more likely to sway them.
Of possible interest, and something to send to friends and family who you think might have been candidates for this kind of manipulation: https://www.wired.com/story/did-you-like-or-follow-facebook-pages-from-a-russian-troll-farm/
H_Fenton_Mudd · 3 points · Posted at 19:26:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's telling that I have seen this exact logic, down to the wording, today.
Pascalwb · 1 points · Posted at 19:01:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But was that directly FBs fault (political manipulation) or was it the company that just used the data the got.
Chairboy · 1 points · Posted at 19:06:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Depends on whom you believe. If you believe Facebook, they're victims. But there are folks saying they were very complicit in giving the company unprecedented access and support every step along the way. There's also the fact that this isn't the first time the company has gotten into hot water for data mining shenanigans, so it's turning into a 'fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me.... you can't get fooled again' situation.
basicfacts14 · 1 points · Posted at 01:22:06 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lmao every large company uses that metadata from all social media platforms. I like how everyone is getting their panties in a bunch now because trumps name is tagged to it. This has been going on since before Snowden and he revealed everything. Nothing has changed.
nramos33 · 55 points · Posted at 17:40:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The Facebook issue goes beyond them selling your personal information.
They are directly selling your personal information, information for friends of friends, and are allowing companies to selectively target you and your friends with content designed to manipulate you.
Specifically, Facebook allowed a company to do this that then selectively targeted political ads to sway people’s opinion leading up to the 2016 presidential election.
Facebook took foreign money from Russia to benefit trump, which is a campaign finance violation and illegal.
Facebook let Cambridge Analytica take a lot of information, which in the wrong handles can be very powerful and useful in manipulating people. You can be manipulated in a number of ways, but content can manipulate you over time. Any one instance is easy to ignore, but over time these tools can and will sway you. Advertising is effective.
Beyond that, Facebook has repeatedly lied about their actions to congress and the American people.
Ultimately, this means that investigations will happen. Zuckerberg will be forced to testify in front of congress. There will be inquiries and most likely legislation.
The possibility of legislation will likely impact facebooks profitability and that’s why their stock price went down.
TL;DR Facebook has been taking money from foreign powers to influence votes.
They have given targeting information of 50 million Americans to Cambridge Analytica, which has deep ties to trump.
Facebook has actively lied about everything and keep revising what they did and know the more it is reported.
They are going to be investigated and likely laws will be written that impact Facebook.
fzsage · 6 points · Posted at 19:20:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is that why I received an infinite amount of HC ads during the election even though the views I shared on Fb were clearly Libertarian and no amount of "This ad isn't relevant to me" and "report as spam" didn't do a single thing?
ndcapital · 15 points · Posted at 19:04:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I firmly believe we wouldn't be having this essential conversation if it wasn't for Trump's victory. That was really the reckoning for all the harm Facebook did to society.
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The hilarious part is that he misinterpreted or failed to explain the situation properly: When you buy ads on FB, you can target specific demographics (age, region, likes, interests, etc). That's it. On the grand scale, 100k of ad money isn't even that much.
The Cambridge Analytica issue goes a bit deeper, but that's on CA, not on FB.
The other guy is absolutely right: Trump wasn't the first one, nor the only one to use Facebook. Had this been any other candidate, Reddit wouldn't give a shit and would jump over hoops trying to justify it.
Stan_poo_pie · 3 points · Posted at 00:49:31 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
The hilarious part is all you people typing shit out as if someone cares to read it. Ha
kazookachoo · 2 points · Posted at 22:18:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Obama did similar stuff in 2012 and it was praised as "the most digitally savvy campaign in human history" blah blah blah.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:38:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
username checks out
missedthecue · 3 points · Posted at 18:20:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I work with Facebook's business side on a daily basis and this is blatantly false
nramos33 · -5 points · Posted at 18:55:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Except it’s not false.
Facebook allows third party companies to take your data that Facebook collects and do with it what they want.
Sure, there’s a terms of service agreement that says you can’t do xyz, but they can still do it because Facebook collects it. And once they take it, they play dumb until they get caught. Then, they give an empty statement about valuing your privacy and saying, ok guys we’re serious this time, don’t do it.
I can hear you typing now, “but that’s not Facebook! That’s third party groups and you agree to that when you sign terms of service agreements when you get the app!”
However, for consumers, this is a distinction without a difference. Do they realize the app is not made by Facebook? Do they read the terms of service? Do they actually know what they’re giving?
The most ethical company possible would either not collect data or outright prevent anyone from accessing data other than themselves. Facebook has created a system where people think they are safely posting personal information where only friends and family can see, but don’t realize it’s all up for grabs.
Not only that, but Facebook has lied about what is private and had to settle with the FTC regarding the issue or privacy.
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2011/11/facebook-settles-ftc-charges-it-deceived-consumers-failing-keep
Are they sitting around selling your personal history? No.
But are they scanning everything given to them and finding ways to influence you and sell that influence to advertisers? Yes.
Do they allow third party apps on their system that can collect your personal data? Yes.
Has Facebook been forth coming with congress and the American people about this issue? No.
Has Facebook lied about taking Russian money and publishing content designed to influence the 2016 election, thus violating campaign finance laws? Yes.
missedthecue · 8 points · Posted at 19:10:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Do you know how facebook works? If they sold the data they collected on users they'd be bankrupt in a week. The data is their prime asset.
I own a company that works with facebook. I know how this works. Facebook just gives you the tools to target specific groups of people. Not individuals. So for example, lets say you sell European baby formula. You can tell facebook's algorithm to only show your ad to new mothers living in European countries.
Facebook has data on these users because they might like or follow new mom pages, they also have their age, and location and a number of other data sets on these individuals. I as the Facebook client never see names or addresses of these individuals, all i know is that my ad will be shown to 3,280,000 (or however many) people that fit my criteria.
This is incredibly useful to advertisers. In this way, the European baby formula in our example isn't being advertised to 47 year-old single men living in Saskatchewan or whoever. I don't need to waste my marketing budget advertising to people will never need to buy my product anyway.
This is why Facebook's data is useful. It's only useful to them if they keep it private (don't sell it). I have to go to facebook to advertise in such a specific way, and that's why Facebook makes $40 billion per year doing that.
Facebook makes revenue, and you get ads that are only relevant to you, u/nramos33. That's how it works.
Famnation · 1 points · Posted at 19:53:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Just out of curiosity - what is the percentage of people who actually click your link? Is it even about that? Is it simply to subconsciously display your product so when someone in that demographic is considering said product your hope is that they think of you first?
I find marketing interesting in the way that I have a hard time believing a lot of people use ad-cent style ads to actually shop, or click on. Is marketing money just 'waste' money where you just want guerrilla-style marketing and consider it an investment, or are you seeing actual people use your links and then furthermore complete a purhcase transaction. If you don't, how long until you see the results of those campaigns?
Basically I find it fascinating in this day in age anyone cares about adverts. Any smart consumer will weigh their options from peer-reviews before blindly buying products. Ghost-review, or paid-reviewers is the new way to sell products, IMO.
missedthecue · 3 points · Posted at 20:20:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm not really in marketing, i'm in finance. But i can tell you that 2-5% of people who see our ad click on it.
Advertising is much more about building brand awareness than getting immediate sales. There are a lot of case studies that show how useful Facebook ads are. For example Adidas grew their market share over 50% in one country in just one year by advertising to citizens of that nation through FB ads.
But you're right. No one clicks on an ad and buys because of that. That's why a lot of ads you might see on Facebook or Google or Reddit give you a reason to spend your money now. (for example, X% off for the next 24 hours or use this coupon code etc..)
Famnation · 1 points · Posted at 00:29:33 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thanks. That's interesting. 50% growth from ads alone on a single social platform is quite substantial.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 18:41:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wtf? You conveniently left out that Obama used the same info and the exact same tactic in 2012. I voted Bernie and ten Jill stein, I hate trump. But omitting fact is lying. Stop fucking lying. Trump is far from the first to do this. Liar
nramos33 · 11 points · Posted at 19:05:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No he did not.
You’re willfully ignorant, stupid, or pushing the exact same narrative found on Russian owned news propaganda such as RT and highly partisans Fox News.
Frankly, I don’t give two fucks who you voted for. But since you offered, voting for Jill Stein was beyond fucking stupid.
I’d have more respect for you if you told me you were a trump supporter than a Stein supporter. Because god damn she was unqualified, stupid, had ties to Russia via private dinners with Putin, and she released a god awful music album.
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nramos33 · 1 points · Posted at 19:14:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No, if you vote for Jill Stein you’re fucking stupid.
I can understand why someone voted for trump.
I can understand why people hate Clinton.
But if you voted for Stein you’re just fucking stupid.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:16:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My vote counts as much as yours. Stop crying bro. Believe it or not my vote has to be earned in a different way than “hey I know I’m shit but I’m less shit than the Cheeto” nonsense Hillary spouted. Field a better candidate next time
snoop_Odin · 1 points · Posted at 21:19:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wow voting for a third party is instantly shot down. You know if no one votes for a third party we will be stuck with the shittiest of two evils forever right?
If you voted for either of the two parties you are just fucking stupid.
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 19:07:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He didn't omit anything. He was explaining the current situation and why it was so bad, he wasn't explaining the situation as of 6 years ago mate.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:20:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So why wasn’t it bad back then? Because the “good guy” won that time? That’s fucked up logic, because anyone can buy this data. And if you don’t believe that, you’ve been suckling at the zuck teat of deception
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:23:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No one's saying it was good, we're simply stating the facts that are pertinent to this investigation due to the fact that cambridge analytica has interfered in quite a few country's goings on and seems very likely to have broken a few laws in doing so.
This isn't the time to "what about" it's the time to go "we need this shit to stop"
elboro5000 · -1 points · Posted at 19:08:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Never take a comment on any website as truth (not that you were). All of us have bias. They didn't lie, they presented the facts the way they wanted (or inferred). It is the reader's job to critically analyze what is being said and go from there. I'm not picking, I just think people need to remember to use their heads when reading things (like you did). Especially if it's not coming from a legitimate source, like a comment on reddit usually.
CamperStacker · 1 points · Posted at 20:22:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes but why get upset now. Facebook did the same thing during Obama campaign.
KernicPanel · 1 points · Posted at 20:31:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There should be a site in different languages that explains all this to the average people who don't have the slighest clue whats happening (AKA 90% of my social-media friends).
conyeighwest · 1 points · Posted at 19:02:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’m still not sure I understand it honestly. Since when are targeted ads evil?
Oxygenius_ · 2 points · Posted at 19:34:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
When they are intrusive, and unwanted.
Its all manipulation
birdsflyup · 2 points · Posted at 19:22:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They aren't targeted to sell you products, they are targeting your psychology, usually without truth.
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[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 19:34:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've been manipulated into buying a product that wasn't worth its price, or one I didn't needed. Ads hurt you financially, especially in the long turn.
Just look into products like Beats Headphones and other crap marketed for insanely high prices
ripOBERYN2014 · -1 points · Posted at 20:31:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Damn Just don't buy that shit then
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cheekylilbugger · 1 points · Posted at 19:36:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Found the Facebook employee.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 18:59:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think you underestimate the current Congress's ability to look the other way on this whole Russia scandal.
Until we vote them out, they ain't doing shit about this.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:08:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Actually they might act on this one just to show they're doing something and to silence any idea that they don't care about americans, this is a lot easier to get people behind than the anti-videogame thing they tried for a week
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ripOBERYN2014 · 1 points · Posted at 20:33:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Imagine how much data usage your phone would have if they were listening to your mics
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:45:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Maybe its only when you are on wifi. Just too many weird coincidences where a product is mentioned that I have never googled in my life, and then magically I get adds for it like 5 hours later.
dopplertrader · 0 points · Posted at 19:37:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Brainwashed idiot talking out of his brainwashed asshole. Trump hired CA, CA do shady shits for trump, but that’s just how digital campaigning goes. Where the fuck does Russia comes in? Do you have any proof? No you don’t. Stop talking about shit you know nothing about.
Damnius · 1 points · Posted at 09:21:41 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You strike me as the brainwashed one here buddy.
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evilroots · 8 points · Posted at 17:35:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
so is reddit and twitter
missedthecue · 4 points · Posted at 18:21:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is incorrect. Your data that you hand facebook through use of their application is not sold. It's their only asset and the reason they are a $500 billion company. It would be suicide to sell that data
We_Are_For_The_Big · 4 points · Posted at 17:46:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No they're not. Someone exploited their privacy agreement and sold CA personal data from an app he made. Now Facebook is claiming to be tightening security against malicious developers. I'll believe when I see it happen, but Facebook is not the one at fault here.
schwangeroni · 0 points · Posted at 17:30:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To add to this, Facebook is allowing parties to taking data of people whose friends opted in to specific services.
We_Are_For_The_Big · 5 points · Posted at 17:46:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Was allowing
Infidelc123 · 8 points · Posted at 18:40:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Like Twitter is much better. I had to make a twitter account to enter a contest the other day, seemed simple enough. Skipped the add a phone number option and was supposed to receive an email confirmation (never arrived) after I made my post for the contest my account was immediately "locked due to suspicious activity" and the only way to unlock it is by adding a phone number. Fuck that shady shit.
bloodviper1s · 58 points · Posted at 18:46:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I feel bad for whoevers job it was those pages! Literally lost their job over a random persons tweet
Robot_Warrior · 108 points · Posted at 18:54:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
lol, there's no one who is solely employed to maintain two pages on FB. Generally that stuff falls to a broader PR team's responsibility, where it's generally semi-managed by a few people.
SuedeVeil · 47 points · Posted at 19:08:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah if one guys job was only to maintain a Facebook page he probably had a lot of free time on his hands..
Legolaa · 1 points · Posted at 20:13:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's what interns are for.
frankichiro · 1 points · Posted at 22:39:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If that's how little value you put on having a marketing strategy for your company then why bother at all?
frankichiro · 1 points · Posted at 22:27:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh boy. You severely underestimate the time and effort it takes to be a professional social media manager.
It's definitely a full time job to come up with engaging content every day. It's comparable to being news paper editor, advertiser and and PR-person in one. I mean, you literally get paid for karma points. Just imagine all the things you'd do differently if you actually took it seriously. You'd need research, a strategy, a schedule, and it would be required that you stay on top of everything that happens that relate to your business.
There's a reason most companies' social media presence kind of suck, and it's because they just don't have the time and energy it requires to get it in order by themselves. It's definitely worth it to hire someone who can focus completely on that task, if you strive to have some form of authority and social attraction online.
Also, as a social media manager you rarely just run one page, and is never present on just one service. You are also probably responsible for coming up with, designing, recording, editing, and tracking all the marketing campaigns. Perhaps even managing the main web page as well, and maybe even be in charge of planning events.
If you still doubt the amount of work it requires, try for yourself to come up with at least two relevant and engaging facebook posts and two instagram images a week, at least one tweet a day, and one to two blog posts a month. And also make sure to answer questions and handle any comments, and hold conversations with your audience. And in the end, report every month on what's going on, with graphs and numbers.
It may be easy to maintain a facebook page, but it's a whole other story to be good at it. There truly is an art and a science to constantly having something interesting to say.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:05:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't know...There is so much you have to think about when posting to millions of people. You have to be skilled at it, find the right picture, the right words.. It's not as easy as it sounds.
Thunder-ten-tronckh · 0 points · Posted at 20:33:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's a lot more time consuming than you think.
anzl · 1 points · Posted at 20:10:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, they probably had one person doing their all of their social media, and I would wager that maintaining the Facebook took up a sizable chunk of their time.
theconceiver · 1 points · Posted at 03:59:24 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh good. A room full of people lost their jobs, not just one person. That's a much less lonely scenario.
Robot_Warrior · 2 points · Posted at 04:14:37 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah, you got it backwards . There's probably less than an hour per day of work maintaining those. It's really not a huge effort to run a FB page
maverick340 · 12 points · Posted at 19:00:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think he just saved the PR team a conversation!
bheal · 4 points · Posted at 19:01:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm sure it's one person who covers all the platforms. They'll be fine.
ashlee837 · 1 points · Posted at 20:25:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Doesn't take a full-time job to manage a FB page.
SumoSizeIt · 1 points · Posted at 20:39:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Most tech companies are probably not managing and posting piecemeal to social networks. Removing Facebook from a marketer's workflow usually amounts to taking it out of your automation suite's posting schedule and moving on to the next bullshit PR piece on your content calendar.
SlowlyVA · 12 points · Posted at 18:52:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
For a billionaire who runs multiple companies dude does take twitter personally when confronted or challenged.
daemon_of_chaos · 11 points · Posted at 19:33:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Trump has him beat on the Twitter hissy-fit front though.
kombatunit · 6 points · Posted at 20:37:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Trumpster is final boss of twitter.
RichGirlThrowaway_ · 0 points · Posted at 23:19:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Being rich or conventionally successful doesn't make you any more superior or important a person. Every stranger he interacts with is inherently as valuable as he is. Why shouldn't a challenge mean anything? On a human level, I mean. You, 1.0 of a human are being challenged by X, 1.0 of a human.
IgnisDomini · 51 points · Posted at 18:32:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
ITT: People jizzing themselves over a marketing stunt, as if this is the first time a company has ever jumped on board with a major trend by canceling their relationship with another.
SirComesAl0t · -11 points · Posted at 19:36:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Olive Garden spending $1,000 to feed the homeless to garner more business is a marketing stunt.
Deleting your social media which millions of people follow and are kept up to date with your activities? Not a marketing stunt.
FrostyD7 · 14 points · Posted at 20:05:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Its the top post on reddit today, I got a push notification from google about it, they were talking about it on the news when i was watching earlier. Smells a bit like a marketing stunt. But sure, lets just assume Elon is a troll who also accidentally wandered into promoting himself and his brands.
[deleted] · -6 points · Posted at 20:33:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You just spend too much time on media. This trending post is the first I’ve heard about it. I haven’t seen anyone talk about it on Facebook, and who watches the news? You can read all the stories they have for the news hour in half the time unless it’s breaking news, but I guarantee this Tesla “stunt” wasn’t breaking news...
FrostyD7 · 5 points · Posted at 21:17:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What about my post implied I spend too much time on media? Top post of reddit? Push notification? Its the only thing I saw on tv as I walked by the one in our entryway at work. I spent under a minute combined doing these 3 things.
Jihad-me-at-hello · -1 points · Posted at 20:53:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're right, he should just fuck it and we all just ignore what Facebook is doing
buddascrayon · 15 points · Posted at 18:57:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is the most pointless thing I think I have ever seen. Who gives a shit? Delete Facebook, don't delete Facebook. What does it matter. I keep mine to stay in touch with friends and family I wouldn't otherwise have regular contact with. I use literally everything else for news gathering and entertainment.
But here's the crux. All of these morons calling for everyone to #deletefacebook think they are doing something noble and great when in reality it's just another #trending on Facebook. Get a clue, you aren't the customer on Facebook(or reddit for that matter) you're the product.
alainreid · 3 points · Posted at 19:14:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Where can I buy an Elon Musk body pillow?
CarlosDanger0123 · 2 points · Posted at 19:24:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Once you find out where will you please inform me
alainreid · 2 points · Posted at 20:56:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Getting close here: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/elon+musk+throw-pillows
CarlosDanger0123 · 2 points · Posted at 23:17:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Those are absolutely terrible and I want 2 of each shipped to my house immediately
alainreid · 2 points · Posted at 23:42:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"We've converted our spare room into an Elon Musk pillow pit."
CarlosDanger0123 · 1 points · Posted at 06:09:58 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
[me, after staying the night in your Elon Musk pillow pit spare room]
“I had 3 orgasms before midnight.”
PM_ME_YOUR_ZUGZWANGS · 3 points · Posted at 20:51:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't understand why people are surprised about Facebook. Didn't you all know they were selling your data when it gave you personalized ads based on your likes?
Xygen8 · 1 points · Posted at 23:04:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've been on Facbook for 10 years and I don't remember it ever giving me an ad based on something I'm actually interested in.
Needawhisper · 3 points · Posted at 22:04:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tom from Myspace is licking his licks. "I'm back baby!"
correcthorsestapler · 1 points · Posted at 03:04:23 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nah he’s probably off in some remote part of the world taking nature pics. His pics from Iceland are pretty cool.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 23:37:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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CrackComander · 3 points · Posted at 23:40:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Cost cutting.
lucidvein · 3 points · Posted at 23:39:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How about #deletetwitter .. it's a private corporation with an agenda.
spotifyIPOsucks · 2 points · Posted at 23:44:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can someone explain what Facebook did wrong and why people are mad? I'm so lost on this one.
Leneord1 · 3 points · Posted at 23:51:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They sold private info to politics companies
spotifyIPOsucks · 1 points · Posted at 23:59:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why are people mad though?
Didn't everyone already just assume that they did this?
Why wouldn't they sell data, what is the problem here?
mcrackin · 3 points · Posted at 00:00:56 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wait... doesn't Twitter track everything you do just like Facebook?
Bakert7291 · 3 points · Posted at 00:27:54 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Go back to MySpace! The good ol days of visiting multiple friends pages, all the same music, arguing over your top 8...
Ben_Thyme · 3 points · Posted at 01:54:24 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Great end to the article.
therichhomeless · 3 points · Posted at 01:55:43 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ill just challenge Elon to make me a billionaire then.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 02:58:53 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Jesus, people are acting like there is no alternative to Facebook and it's the end of the world. I deleted mine, no regrets.
bittripkid · 3 points · Posted at 02:59:04 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh, so Elon Musk can delete his facebook but I can't.
Upupabove · 3 points · Posted at 06:20:36 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is nothing but a huge show. They will take all the Facebook data they have in you and use it elsewhere. Don't be fooled.
lity123 · 10 points · Posted at 19:13:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think all censorship should be deplored. My position is that bits are not a bug That we should create communications technologies that allow people to send whatever they like to each other. And when people put their thumbs on the scale and try to say what can and can’t be sent, we should fight back - both politically through protest and technologically through software — Aaron Swartz (1986 - 2013) //Replace c with r in the url to see how many post reddit is censoring//
GuiltySparklez0343 · 3 points · Posted at 20:39:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He has commented on it saying he doesn't think it's as bad.
lity123 · 0 points · Posted at 22:48:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think all censorship should be deplored. My position is that bits are not a bug That we should create communications technologies that allow people to send whatever they like to each other. And when people put their thumbs on the scale and try to say what can and can’t be sent, we should fight back - both politically through protest and technologically through software — Aaron Swartz (1986 - 2013) //Replace c with r in the url to see how many post reddit is censoring//
GuiltySparklez0343 · 0 points · Posted at 23:03:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Other sites don't make you sign in with instagram and instagram really can't collect much data on you other than what you post and like, Facebook knows far more. Plus I bet he didn't really give a shit about Facebook because he never personally used it but he does have a personal instagram.
lity123 · 0 points · Posted at 23:33:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think all censorship should be deplored. My position is that bits are not a bug That we should create communications technologies that allow people to send whatever they like to each other. And when people put their thumbs on the scale and try to say what can and can’t be sent, we should fight back - both politically through protest and technologically through software — Aaron Swartz (1986 - 2013) //Replace c with r in the url to see how many post reddit is censoring//
invalid_dictorian · 2 points · Posted at 00:21:52 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I want to see Zuck delete Musk's IG pages! Then burn baby burn. Popcorn time.
finding_bliss · 35 points · Posted at 16:39:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don’t get it... why, though?
Terazilla · 25 points · Posted at 17:37:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Apparently people didn't realize Facebook was selling their personal data. I have no idea what they thought Facebook was doing with it before this. The very concept that they'd care about your privacy is absurd.
Chicano_Ducky · 5 points · Posted at 22:33:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook collaborated with a right wing political propaganda group that used the data to push propaganda and lies to the populace of the US and Britain to get Brexit and Trump to happen.
Cambridge Analytica is also being investigated for ties to Russia as their propaganda and the Russian troll farm propaganda coincided.
This is not about private data, it became political and tied to Mueller's investigation.
Nicholas-Steel · 96 points · Posted at 16:52:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The masses are finally realizing that social media is literally the pits?
itty53 · 173 points · Posted at 16:55:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ironically stated on reddit.
Reddit knows more about you than Facebook does. Behavioral analytics is all about content not your age and name and location. They can guess all that.
Reddit is deep into the same data mining that Facebook is. Very deep. Worse too: with Facebook, Cambridge Analytica had to trick people into allowing them to see their shit. Reddit is 99% public already; anyone can (and certainly CA absolutely did) mine it.
Collin_Daugherty · 73 points · Posted at 17:05:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
At least Reddit doesn't want my government issued ID to verify my account. yet
encogneeto · 47 points · Posted at 17:18:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Or even an email address
BurntHotdogVendor · 7 points · Posted at 18:59:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They do want it to verify you though. It's just not required.
modernaliens · 1 points · Posted at 19:23:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I see you guys have not tried to create a new account recently...edit: nevermind, they removed mandatory email requirement even more recntly. the sky has not fallen yet. You can click next now with an empty email field \o/
MarshawnPynch · 3 points · Posted at 20:17:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Which is worse. This place is filled with way more bots and propaganda. You don’t even know if you’re talking to a real person here. This place is a puppetmasters heaven.
thorax509 · 5 points · Posted at 23:23:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Then don't be a puppet?
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 18:58:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Kytozion · 2 points · Posted at 19:11:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No. On the sign up page on the computer, just click next when it asks for an email. On mobile, just type in the username and password, you don't have to enter an email.
Upupabove · 0 points · Posted at 07:11:15 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
They only ask you to verify it every time you log in as of a few days ago
DexterFoley · 6 points · Posted at 20:24:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wait facebook does?
Eustace_Savage · -1 points · Posted at 22:07:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you've been reported to be using a fake name they may ask for verification, yeah.
Upupabove · 5 points · Posted at 07:12:02 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
They also did to thousands of people who had their real name, so that was not the reason
Eustace_Savage · -1 points · Posted at 07:41:34 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You can still be reported if you're using your real name, so yeah, that likely is the reason.
BlueOak777 · 1 points · Posted at 19:29:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
or my nudes.
caninehere · 19 points · Posted at 19:00:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit is 99% public, but it isn't connected to your real identity unless you go out of your way to do so.
And yes, your real name does matter when it comes to shit like this. CA went to Facebook because they were able to harvest names, addresses, phone numbers, employer info, all sorts of shit. You aren't going to find all of that on reddit except on the most transparent profiles, which are probably people in public office and such anyway. And it's also much harder to look for (though still trivial in the end if it IS there).
CA didn't trick anybody. They had the keys to the backdoor. They scraped private messages between Facebook users and even Facebook employees themselves.
If you want to come up with ads for the 25-34 demo then yeah, reddit is a good place to go because you can see peoples' interests and maybe get a general idea of where they live sometimes. That's about it. The type of work CA does isn't just about figuring out peoples' interests and manipulating them. It's about figuring out who they are, what matters most in terms of their well-being, and targeting the SHIT out of them down to the county they live in.
Facebook also collects swathes of information about people who don't even use Facebook and tracks their identities and locations via photo recognition and such. Even if you've never used a Facebook account, they may have data on you. Not so with reddit.
elronHubert · 6 points · Posted at 17:02:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
AH FUCK! clears history sobs at futility
[deleted] · 31 points · Posted at 17:02:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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itty53 · 76 points · Posted at 17:05:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They don't care about your real name. At all. This is hugely important to realize: That's got nothing to do with behavioral analytics.
Your technical identity isn't important, they want your actual identity. Your behavior. They will assign you a 'name' (number), attached with a digital fingerprint that you can't avoid, and then associate the data to that. And you can't fake this without just faking participation. Writing random comments, clicking random links, effectively no longer participating on your own. As long as you use the apps for what they're built for, you're building a very, very, very accurate fingerprint for their use.
And third party companies will be able to associate that fingerprint to your real name and identity (by associating your reddit fingerprint to your LinkedIn fingerprint or whatever other apps) but again, they don't particularly care about that.
[deleted] · -4 points · Posted at 17:10:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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itty53 · 64 points · Posted at 17:15:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are you familiar at all with the controversy surrounding Cambridge Analytica that prompted Musk to delete the Facebook accounts?
That's why you should be worried. Behavioral analytics makes controlling people much, much easier. Manufactured consent, "guiding" people to the "correct" opinions, etc.
Trump and Obama both got elected using Behavioral Analytics. It's an extraordinarily powerful tool. You will be made to think you arrived at conclusions of your own accord, from your own thoughts. That is less and less true every single day.
How'd you feel about Net Neutrality? That was a behavioral analytics campaign, prompted by social media and deep pockets. It wasn't an organic protest. But it convinced hundreds of thousands to take a side with deep money (Google, Facebook, et al).
Saying "I shouldn't be worried" in this sense is a lot like saying "I'm not a criminal, why should I bother if the government is spying on me?".
DJHJR86 · 21 points · Posted at 18:36:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Surprised to see this common sense post upvoted here.
itty53 · 14 points · Posted at 18:39:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ugh, don't get me started on NN. Shit pissed me off to no end. I got banned from subs for calling it out politely.
It was entirely orchestrated. There's no such thing as a campaign that is that pervasive that is just organic.
And when you compare that to the fact that we've known about SESTA/FOSTA since January and not a single front page post about it, it's pretty much proof positive that NN was a coordinated event backed by reddit. Why wouldn't they? Loss of NN stands to cost reddit a lot of money. YouTube, Netflix, et al too. But SESTA/FOSTA? Nah that won't cost them, so "no one cares."
And people wonder why I'm opposed to behavioral analytics. Because it's used to manipulate the masses in a way that is unparalleled in history. It's absurd how powerful this shit is.
The_Godlike_Zeus · 7 points · Posted at 19:19:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well shit.
itty53 · 6 points · Posted at 19:20:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You wouldn't believe how many downvotes that kinda talk got me during that whole campaign. Hundreds, in minutes. No exaggeration. There were so many fucking bots online during it. I've never seen anything like it, and this is far from my first account, I've been here for nearly 10 years.
ztejas · 7 points · Posted at 19:10:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Companies best interests and individuals best interests align sometimes.
I'm not going to change my stance on net neutrality just because it happens to be the stance that someone else wants me to have.
YouTube, Netflix, Reddit all employ thousands of Americans that are "normal people". C-Suite executives aren't that different than the rest of us. Their decisions just carry more weight and they have more money.
itty53 · 5 points · Posted at 19:12:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I supported NN myself; my issue is the blatant deception. I don't like seeing mass manipulation, even if it's for a good reason. Ends do not justify the means in my book.
And the whole "paint reddit red with that stupid NN icon" campaign was not organic. It was mass manipulation. Bought and paid for.
thespo37 · 2 points · Posted at 21:37:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The unfortunate truth is that it is also unavoidable. As long as people are using the internet, people will be able to track behavior even just with public information. And they don't even need everyone to gather general trends. The best defense each individual can do is educate themselves so they have a better chance of recognizing when it's happening, and taking steps to counter it and make conscious decisions.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 21:38:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's about my best take on the situation. Agreed. 's why I'm talking about it still, months later. I want people to recognize it next time. They really, vehemently even, did not last time around.
EpsilonRider · 3 points · Posted at 22:21:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Couldn't it have just been well done because so many people want NN? It seems like NN is much broader and has a deeper impact than the more specifically targeted SESTA/FOSTA, which could've also been much more easily diverge into a different conversation.
itty53 · 2 points · Posted at 22:25:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The fact that every social media site is being forced, by its recent passing in congress, to institute new hardliner policies because of this says otherwise.
Seriously, look into it. Do some digging, read up on it. There was already a big to-do on reddit about it, two days ago.
EpsilonRider · 1 points · Posted at 00:01:08 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm at work but that post seems like it was mainly a Reddit decision. If it were SESTA it'd be much easier and better for them to directly blame it on a bill. Instead it wasn't mentioned at all, not a heads-up or precautionary policy. Even if it were, Reddit has always been the type to react after a problem has grown. So even if Reddit was affected by SESTA, they'd both say it and actually implement the policy after something actually happens.
allsheknew · 2 points · Posted at 23:49:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Damn. Thanks for the insight. Seriously. First time really reading something sensible on it all.
(I almost didn’t comment or even upvote because then it’s linked to my behavior. Eek.)
itty53 · 2 points · Posted at 23:52:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm not surprised. During the whole shindig, every time I said anything near what I'm saying now I'd be downvoted to shit in minutes. /r/LogoDesign banned me for even mentioning it as a circlejerk.
It was absolutely stunning to witness. Either reddit turned into the biggest group of identically brainwashed people in history, or it was manufactured to push an agenda rooted in dollars and cents.
allsheknew · 2 points · Posted at 00:06:40 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Eh, well as someone who gets downvoted for the most mundane things ever - I would say the hive mind plays a large part but the seed spawns somewhere, ya know?
I’m sure most do not know more about NN than “oh no, not my internetz!”
dnl101 · 2 points · Posted at 20:56:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I can't see net neutrality as a behavioral analytics campaign. Politics always used behavioral analytics to an extend.
And as far as I know, behavioral analytics are mainly used for advertisment. Which is somewhat pointless when you use an addblocker. The only place I know that I encounter it is youtube/google.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 20:59:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Have you been paying attention for the last week? Google Cambridge Analytica.
dnl101 · 1 points · Posted at 21:10:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you don't refer to politics, I don't know.
And I still don't know how NN was a behavioral analytics campaign.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 21:16:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because getting all of reddit to agree on any single thing in the way that it did -- literally every single front page post for more than a day -- is statistically impossible. It was paid for to sway public opinion. It was facilitated further by reddit. And it utilized the same behavioral analytics they had access to in order to push it in the most convincing way possible, all for their bottom line. That was the reason. Money.
dnl101 · 0 points · Posted at 21:29:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So feeding internet nerds information on how the internet is in danger is behavioral analytics? To cater to godwins law, hitler already did that after ww1. And probably every politician before and after him. I thought the problem was about the way the information is gathered? And the information that reddit has lots of internet users, well duh.
So reddit pushed an agenda that was in their interest and probably in the interest of their users (and probably tinkered their algorythms a little). If that really was an behavioral analytics campaign, basically everything is and I don't see the problem still.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 21:30:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Seems you've made up your mind, dunno why you keep pretending you have questions.
dnl101 · 1 points · Posted at 21:33:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well, I'm usually not quick to change my mind. But I thought you may have good enough points to change my point on this.
mredofcourse · 2 points · Posted at 21:46:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I am.
Are you familiar at all with the controversy surrounding Cambridge Analytica that prompted Musk to ask for /r/teslamotors to be deleted?
No? Neither am I.
This is why some of us are questioning this comment of yours in regards to Reddit being worse than Facebook.
People speak more openly and freely on Reddit because of the relative real-world anonymity. So yes, there is more insightful personal data on Reddit, but the real problem with CA on Facebook wasn't that they harvested the data, but what they did with that data. Facebook has the means to utilize that data for nefarious purposes, Reddit lacks much of that infrastructure and has the means to filter out much of the attempts... specifically when it comes to actual targeting of specific individuals (as opposed to groups).
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 18:43:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sounds like advertising. Commercials have been guiding me to products and convincing me they're actually useful. Amazon ratings help me determine if its something I can trust, more so than word of mouth. Algorithms attempt to show me items it thinks i will like based off my history.
For alot of products, how would you know about them if you weren't targeted in some way for them to know if you'd even be interested in the first place.
Advertisements and specific products are usually concentrated in places where they think people would be more likely to buy them based off of analytics.
At what point are you deciding you want something? At what point are you avoiding things you actually want because you're afraid some one's 'convincing' you to buy it.
itty53 · 4 points · Posted at 18:44:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sounds like political campaigning. What else is a campaign other than an advertisement?
And you know we have regulations surrounding both advertising and campaigns for good reason, right?
YourDreamsWillTell · 1 points · Posted at 19:04:21 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Could you please elaborate more on your point about NN? Because that was an issue I had trouble in choosing a side due to my lack of understanding. I was just too busy/couldn’t bother with the technical aspects. How did behavioral analytics factor?
daveime · 1 points · Posted at 15:22:34 on March 25, 2018 · (Permalink)
The difference being when Obama did it, there was not a peep from the media or anyone else. Which exposes the hypocrisy of the whole "scandal" at the moment. These tools have existed for a long time - hell, you could argue that the inevitable focus on "swing states" means this kind of social engineering (in years gone by you got a balloon, now you get imaginary internet points) has been going on in one form or another for 200 years, but like everything else, it's only a "problem" when the wrong person wins.
[deleted] · -3 points · Posted at 17:20:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 17:22:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Trump being elected has had no affect on you? Lucky guy. Without this kind of tech and business, he wouldn't have been.
As long as you're repeating that over and over every day, like a mantra, you're safe. It doesn't take much to crack that though. Honestly.
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itty53 · 0 points · Posted at 17:26:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I read it, yes, and I responded.
Hans_Brickface · 6 points · Posted at 17:38:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Doubtful. I have a family full of ardent Trump supporters, and they all still fully support him to this day. Even without said fake news, they wouldn't have voted for Hillary, even under the threat of death.
Also, this article suggests that the Cambridge thing wasn't really that effective, and had little bearing on Trump's victory:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/03/facebooks-cambridge-analytica-scandal-explained/
itty53 · 0 points · Posted at 17:40:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Trump couldn't have won without social media and the analytics derived from it. I stand by that, wholeheartedly, despite your anecdotal evidence that a handful of voters in your family would've still voted for him.
Same goes for Obama, for that matter. He won on social media too. And he admitted it.
Hans_Brickface · 3 points · Posted at 17:44:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Did you see the article I linked in my post? (I added it a few minutes later - I should've put an edit in there.)
Catlover18 · -1 points · Posted at 18:02:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There is a distinct difference between winning because of social media and winning because you had an organization like Cambridge Analytica using behavioral data to help Russian troll farms target certain demographics with fake news and memes.
phukka · 4 points · Posted at 18:13:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Didn't the 18-24 demographic vote wildly in Clinton's favor?
Or do a shit ton of 60 year olds now spend a lot of time posting memes and upvoting pepe? Fuck, I'm so disillusioned with reality.
Catlover18 · -2 points · Posted at 18:16:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Older people on facebook also share memes but they tend to take them as hard facts. Like those shitty homeopathy, anti-vaccine pictures.
-DundieAward- · 6 points · Posted at 18:31:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People do the same shit on r/poltics with ShareBlue and CorrectTheRecord without even realizing. The double standards here are insane.
Catlover18 · -1 points · Posted at 18:32:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Share Blue isn't even whitelisted on r/politics.
-DundieAward- · 3 points · Posted at 18:41:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Spez: They were absolutely whitelisted until January. https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7szc5h/announcement_shareblue_has_been_removed_from_the/
Its good news, but I stand by my point. For the entire election they were attempting to manipulate reddit algorithms to push their agenda and influence the politics of this site.
Catlover18 · -2 points · Posted at 18:44:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They obviously didn't succeed given that the politics subreddit was still dominated by pro Bernie, anti hillary, and lukewarm pro trump comments or articles during the election period.
Now if only Breitbart was given the same treatment as Shareblue.
-DundieAward- · 3 points · Posted at 18:48:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7szc5h/announcement_shareblue_has_been_removed_from_the/
Meant to include this is the last comment.
Also, they absolutely succeded, hence their ban. They dominated the narrative there for months.
You can't be serious about pro-Trump articles on r/poltics during the election...right? Im inclined to believe you're being intentionally dishonest or have never been there.
Catlover18 · -1 points · Posted at 18:52:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lukewarm pro trump comments or articles, mostly false equivalencies or saying Hillary is way worse than Trump or something along those lines.
Dominated for months is a stretch, after the election yes when people were angry but not during the election. Have you forgotten how much the politics subreddit seemed to hate Hillary during the election?
-DundieAward- · 1 points · Posted at 18:58:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Its completely irrelevant. No pro-Trump articles or BreitBart articles ever make their front page.
Not to mention, nearly half the electorate voted for Trump. Ill meet you half way. Does it really suprise you that there were luke warm Trump comments on a default subreddit?
Catlover18 · -1 points · Posted at 19:00:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They don't make it to the front page now, we aren't talking about now.
Also I never said I was surprised by anything, and while half of the voters in the election (which isn't the whole electorate cause turnout is always shit) that doesn't mean reddit represents that 1-for-1 because redditors are generally younger.
-DundieAward- · 3 points · Posted at 19:06:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They didnt make the front page then either lol
I honestly cant remember a single pro-trump article. And even if you could find one, youd starve to death trying to find a BB article that had over 10k upvotes. It just didnt and doesnt happen.
Regardless, this is a parallel conversation to ShareBlue and their similarity to CA.
CarrotIronfounderson · 0 points · Posted at 18:11:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They wouldn't have voted Hillary but they might have not voted Trump either. Going by the numbers, a 50,000 vote difference split between a few states is all it took for Trump to win.
So a few conservatives who weren't blinded by fake news bombarding their FB, with Russian operatives posing as americans, retweeted by thousands of fools and bots to make it look legit, probably wouldn't have voted for the single worst nominee this country has ever seen who goes against their best interest. Maybe they'd stay home or vote third party. For those that switch remember that's a two vote change. Removing one from Trump and adding one to Hillary.
We're talking numbers so small that the weather could've swung the winner. A year of brain melting fake news definitely had its effect
Hans_Brickface · 2 points · Posted at 18:18:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You forget though that Trump told them exactly what they wanted to hear. And although I agree that he was not in their best interest, instead of pointing this out, all the other side could do was call them racists, bigots, and deplorables. There was no fucking way Hillary was going to win. Even I wouldn't have voted for her, and I'm not even conservative.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 19:57:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In the two party system that is plenty enough. We know the effect of third parties. It's why the green party is hated by democrats like the reform party was hated by Republicans. It takes votes from only one side of the two parties, effectively weakening that side.
Had Jill Stein not ran, Hillary would've won, Trump would've lost. Just like Roger Stone had done in the past, he did it in 2016.
ohlookahipster · 3 points · Posted at 18:23:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not really. I'm a die-hard Democrat but that's the beauty of Federalism: What happens at the state and local level is much more impactful than what happens at the WH.
On the flip side, most of us will be paying fewer taxes on earnings this year... so there's that. I used that NYT tax calculator and I'll be taking home $5,000 more.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 18:24:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're a rarity; one who understands their place. Kudos to you.
TM3-PO · 0 points · Posted at 20:44:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And in 4 years when the roads are crumbling and bridges are collapsing because the preventative maintenance was cut guess how much you’ll end up shelling out.
sold_snek · -1 points · Posted at 18:41:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Meanwhile we can't afford better health insurance for everyone because your 5k increase got billionaires an extra 300 billion a year.
But hey as long as you get 5k, fuck everyone else.
mohirl · 1 points · Posted at 00:41:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Actually, it does take quite a lot. It just depends on whether you're the kind of person who a) seeks multiple sources of news before believing it b) tries to confront your own prejudices while doing that, and c) considers whether the most influential people you know personally do the same. Tl;Dr use your own brain
CarrotIronfounderson · 7 points · Posted at 18:00:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't think you understand the extent of info they get. It's not just what you put on fb. It's your IP address, it's your phone identification.
Is your Reddit email the same as your fb? If so, they know who you are. If you were smart and used a junk email that had never been tied to your real name, then if you logged in on the same computer or phone, then it's all still grouped together.
sweetjaaane · 10 points · Posted at 17:17:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because they use that information to manipulate you into behaving the way they want you to. They feed you stories that will trigger certain emotions in you to make you behave in certain ways (or buy certain things or vote for certain people).
You may want to check out this: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/technology/facebook-tinkers-with-users-emotions-in-news-feed-experiment-stirring-outcry.html
I_Do_Not_Sow · 1 points · Posted at 19:08:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How are they going to feed me stories? I only log onto FB to message friends, and I get my news offline.
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sweetjaaane · 17 points · Posted at 17:29:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes this is how most people think of themselves. And yet advertising works.
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sweetjaaane · 1 points · Posted at 17:36:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes, that has been my experience too. Even with people who claim to be skeptics.
ETA: I live in Nerd City where everyone thinks they’re smart (DC).
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sweetjaaane · 4 points · Posted at 17:41:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And I can repeat my main point: ads work on everyone, even so-called skeptics. You're not special (eta: neither am I!)
CubonesDeadMom · 2 points · Posted at 18:12:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No it’s not. Most people I know would never even have a thought like that cross their mind. Some people really do not think philosophically about things ever. Not everyone actually analyzes their beliefs and tries to understand why they believe things. Advertising works for enough of the population for it to be worth the money, it doesn’t work on everyone. It’s specifically for non skeptical people.
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sweetjaaane · 5 points · Posted at 17:51:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I buy make up and clothes from ads on IG sometimes.
I've also gone to Taco Bell because an ad for Taco Bell played on TV while I was super stoned and had the munchies.
I've stopped at a BBQ joint on the way to the beach because I saw a billboard for it by the highway.
If advertising didn't work, corporations wouldn't pour billions of dollars into it.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:08:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm in marketing. You'd be surpised by the analytics of a marketing campaign.
For a well-targeted online campaign, we get a 9% click rate and a 1% conversation rate. Doesn't seem like much but when you're showing ads to thousands of people, you get amazing results.
Advertising works. But nobody will ever admit it worked on them.
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 02:10:40 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Biggest truth of the industry. Marketing and advertising is literally one of if not the biggest industries of all time. They simply don't like to advertise that fact.
DesignGhost · 8 points · Posted at 18:48:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It doesn't matter if you buy it or not. You now recognize the product and know about it which means no matter what you are more likely to buy it unlike someone who knows nothing about the product or has never seen it.
Source: I'm a Product Designer.
I_Do_Not_Sow · -1 points · Posted at 19:10:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Except when I do buy something it's after looking at reviews for the best products in that category. It doesn't matter if I recognize some particular item if it is an average product. I'll buy the better one even if I've never heard of the brand.
sweetjaaane · 3 points · Posted at 19:45:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Marketing companies use reviews to advertise products too though... You've now heard of the brand because it has thousands of 4 star reviews.
I_Do_Not_Sow · 1 points · Posted at 19:48:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Do you mean they pay for reviews? Because usually I like to find small enthusiast YouTube channels for reviews. I ignore Amazon's review system.
potato1 · 0 points · Posted at 21:32:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Those people can be bought too.
DesignGhost · 0 points · Posted at 19:19:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Then you are an exception. Sales statistics would disagree with you about a majority of people. I also do the same thing as you though.
LvS · 2 points · Posted at 19:27:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ever tried it the other way?
When was the last time you bought something you had never heard of before?
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LvS · 0 points · Posted at 21:11:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're wrong.
You consciously picked the item based on the advertisement it displayed on the shelf in form of a sticker that was pasted on the box.
Or in form of a textual or visual description of the product on amazon.
Oh: And to answer your question: No idea.
robdouth · 2 points · Posted at 21:23:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm not a handy man, so anytime I go to Home Depot I'm buying an item that I have almost no knowledge about. I'm not buying it because of the stickers on the box or any advertising. I'm literally just looking for the best price or the specific piece I need to fix the issue at my house. I do the same thing constantly when grocery shopping. I don't pick the specific brands due to advertising, nor do I pick the store to shop at based on advertising. I actually go out of my way to go to a store specifically because it's cleaner and I've had better experiences there, not because of any ad campaign.
While I understand what you are saying that many decisions are made due to a seed planted in your head that you may not even be 100% conscious about, the guy you responded to is not wrong per se. And if you try to be a conscientious consumer, it's really easy to tune out the noise of advertisements, especially if you go out of your way to avoid ads specifically.
LvS · 0 points · Posted at 21:56:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Except you just mentioned Home Depot by name, so that part of rebranding home improvement stores is already working.
Cleanliness of a store are advertising. For most products it does not matter how clean the shop is. In fact, a dirty shop is cheaper to operate and therefore likely a better choice for you. And you don't know how clean the warehouses were that your product went through before anyway.
Oh, and to make this more interesting: Aldi and Lidl for a long time specifically didn't unpack the items they sold and cleaned their stores less than regular supermarkets to give the illusion of them being cheaper than the competition.
And all of that didn't even get into the fact that cleanliness is not something you can judge. Because I am very sure you have no good metric by which to do that.
All you did was go to the shop that did a better job advertising the feeling of cleanliness that you wanted.
robdouth · 2 points · Posted at 22:06:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I go to Home Depot not because of advertising, but because it's the only place that sells home supplies near my house.
I also don't go to Home Depot because of it's cleanliness because there are always wood shavings and all sorts of stuff there. None of those things enter into the calculus. I need a wax ring for my toilet (like I did last weekend) and I'm just going to the home depot because it's less than a mile from my house. Not because of brand recognition. I literally do a search on my phone for hardware/plumbing and it's the closest.
Again, your points may work most of the time, but telling someone they are wrong just because you don't want to believe them seems somewhat silly. Some people are conscientious consumers, and sometimes decisions are made based on chance, not because of ads.
It's not surprising though if you are in the field, you may over-emphasize their effect on people.
LvS · 0 points · Posted at 22:13:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You could have ordered that wax ring on amazon. Or on eBay. But you went to Home Depot.
And it looks like you didn't even make any evaluation of why you did that. Home Depot is so good at advertising to you that it's the obvious choice.
robdouth · 3 points · Posted at 22:36:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nope, I noticed a leak and had to get a new wax ring same day. I am going to order on Amazon and wait a couple days to fix a leaky toilet or just go spend an extra buck to get one in person in 10 minutes and have my toilet fixed within the hour.
It seems you are making too many evaluations and assumptions as to why I did it.
I fully acknowledge the power ads have, I just don't pretend that every decision is some subconscious influence of ads. That's borderline conspiracy theorist.
LvS · 1 points · Posted at 22:59:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The idea behind ads and marketing is not that they sway a single decision you make. Instead they influence your way of thinking.
Marketing is the reason why you think going to spend an extra buck and spending 10 minutes is the better solution to being on Prime and just ordering one via same-day delivery. Because in your mind that is still "wait a couple days".
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LvS · 1 points · Posted at 10:41:02 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
You have to actually go there and that takes time. Prime just arrives at your doorstep.
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LvS · 1 points · Posted at 16:17:29 on March 25, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're still willfully ignoring same-day delivery but believe that you're not influenced.
Trubanaught · 2 points · Posted at 18:45:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
A skeptic might also recognize that it works on everyone, including themselves, and so take a skeptical look at their own beliefs and behaviors. Defending the perimeter and trusting everything that gets through is yesterday's security model.
samcrut · 1 points · Posted at 21:13:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As somebody who works in advertising, we love people like you. Just keep on thinking that way, oh and definitely don't think about ordering pizza delivery later. You're immune to that kind of manipulation.
LvS · 1 points · Posted at 19:30:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Of course you are a skeptic. Which is what Facebook has surely figured out.
So Facebook will deliver you a fair and balanced analysis of hard evidence that allows you to come to the correct conclusion:
And that conclusion is that Facebook totally has no influence on you because you are a skeptic. So it's fine for you to continue using Facebook.
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LvS · 1 points · Posted at 20:02:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, but you could have one and it wouldn't change your behavior at all.
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LvS · 1 points · Posted at 20:10:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because you're a skeptic. So Facebook couldn't influence you.
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LvS · 0 points · Posted at 20:28:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Exactly.
And Facebook will help you become the better person you want to be.
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LvS · -1 points · Posted at 20:42:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The point is that you ramble on and on about what you are going to be doing - or not be doing.
When it has clearly been proven that people do not do that at all.
You are not a skeptic. Sure, you try to convince yourself that you are one and you will find enough examples to plausibly deny that you are not.
You are also not striving to be a better person. I mean sure, you can convince yourself that you are one and again you'll find enough examples for yourself. But in reality those things don't matter much to you. What matters much more to you for example is to hide from your subconscious fears.
Because clearly, if being a better person or a skeptic was important for your behavior, you would not spend your time calling other people on reddit a troll. That neither makes you a better person nor a better skeptic.
But it lets you zone out of real life for a while and not have to face things you're scared of.
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LvS · -1 points · Posted at 21:15:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You also can't prove that to yourself.
So everything you just claimed about me is also true about yourself.
The only difference is that your picture of yourself is a tiny bit better than mine - but it's in no way sufficient to come to a different conclusion about you then the one I got.
samcrut · 2 points · Posted at 21:10:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They're not knocking on your door, but they're messing with your mind. If you're fitting a xenophobic profile, they'll show you stories about Mexicans stealing your jobs and push you to the voting booth based on a bunch of false information that's strictly tailored to make you mad enough to do what they want you to do.
They're not following you in the real world as much as they're LEADING you in the real world.
Upupabove · 1 points · Posted at 07:13:45 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
They can follow you into the real world, if they wanted too. Would it be illegal, maybe not but probably possible.
That's a problem.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 17:15:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because this whole scandal is about tailoring ad content and other things to spread fake news articles to people they knew would believe them, and in turn vote for Trump.
mredofcourse · 1 points · Posted at 21:37:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Right, but again, how exactly does this work its way into Reddit as opposed to Facebook? If you were to compile everything someone has ever upvoted/downvoted/guilded/commented, you'd still not be able to target them on Reddit any more than you could already target the subs without any other data other than the known public existence of them.
The problem with CA and Facebook really isn't that CA harvested the data (although that is bad). It's what they did with that data. Likewise, that Facebook allowed them to harvest the data is bad, but the bigger problem is that there was no mechanism to stop them from what they did with that data.
Reddit has a mechanism to deal with bad actors through user moderation as well as designated mods and company level moderation. While far from perfect, the infrastructure itself is so much less conducive to what Facebook has experienced.
oODaFishManOo · 1 points · Posted at 00:38:08 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
We just controlled Elon Musk! You will be much easier... mwahahahaaa. Go ahead. React. We know you will. How you will and when! Damn that’s scary. ;)
egs1928 · 1 points · Posted at 01:04:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Which means they need to know who those people are to target them. The whole point with the facebook thing is they got your name and your friends names and they matched that up with other data you supplied and data on your facebook profile and used that target you individually.
Upupabove · 1 points · Posted at 07:14:35 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Obama did this too though
xxtoejamfootballxx · 0 points · Posted at 18:14:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It would not be difficult for them to get your name using a third party data service. They know your IP Address, maybe your email, Device IDs, etc. Any entry level data scientist could figure out who you are from that.
MarshawnPynch · 0 points · Posted at 20:18:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You ever use your Reddit app and follow a link to a retailer and order something?
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MarshawnPynch · 0 points · Posted at 20:28:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That’s how they can get info like your name
MarshawnPynch · 3 points · Posted at 20:16:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit is worse. This place is filled with way more bots and propaganda. You don’t even know if you’re talking to a real person here. This place is a puppetmasters wet dream
DenormalHuman · 4 points · Posted at 18:41:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No, it doesn't.
itty53 · 0 points · Posted at 18:42:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh, if you say so. Four years of commenting on their platform, nah, no way they know anything about you.
DenormalHuman · 1 points · Posted at 20:06:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
'Anything' is entirely different to 'More than facebook'
fb95dd7063 · 2 points · Posted at 18:58:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I feel wrong that I don't even give a shit, tbh. I know that I'm the product when I choose to use these sites. Don't care though.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 18:59:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As long as you're aware, that's as much I can ask for.
fb95dd7063 · 2 points · Posted at 19:30:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think that the bigger-picture, problematic aspect of this is that most people are NOT aware of it. I know that with facebook, for example, it is going to show me things that it thinks I already want to see - which is fine for me as an individual because I proactively block things that are annoying, or full of shit (even if I fundamentally agree with their premise). I also have a pretty established policy-driven political viewpoint that isn't easily swayed by "news".
But I realize that a lot of people are not quite so engaged, and the passive consumption of some of this info can lead to bad places.
DontKillTheMedic · 3 points · Posted at 18:59:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You are kidding yourself if you think Reddit knows more about an individual than Facebook.
I agree with everything else you said.
itty53 · 6 points · Posted at 19:01:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Really?
You've been here seven years on the same account, posting opinions, ideas, thoughts, laughs, wants, wishes, hopes, etc -- all under the auspices of anonymity.
You think reddit doesn't know more than facebook, when you know facebook isn't anonymous and you change your behavior because of that?
DontKillTheMedic · 2 points · Posted at 19:18:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
While that may be, Reddit hasn’t been accruing photos, relationship statuses, friends, click-data on the same level Facebook has. It’s really what personal data you weigh to be more valuable.
Reddit doesn’t even know my first or last name (or do they?)
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 19:19:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don't be so sure about that. You've give them a verified email, they have access to third party data. It wouldn't be difficult to figure out if they wanted it. Thing is, they don't want it. That misses the point of the power behind behavioral analytics.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:12:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah thats why I basically make a new account every year, but honestly you could fingerprint my past accounts (I overwrote everything with a script but it's still logged somewhere) just based on my subscriptions alone.
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 19:13:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Guaranteed reddit does that already. They have to have an automated way to see who's using which alts. It'd be one of the very first things I'd make, if I had programmed it.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:43:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I do like to throw off would-be snoopers. I knowingly make false statements that really don't change the meaning of an idea but skews my identity. Like for example, I have talked about my wife and children, yet I post to /r/childfree. I talk about living in a state that I haven't lived in for over 7 years, but still keep up with the local news because I have family there. It doesn't matter to everyone else but it does throw up a ton of contradictions and makes it a little harder to profile me.
MarshawnPynch · 5 points · Posted at 20:21:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Same reason you look at all that gay porn right? To throw them off from tracking you as a heterosexual
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Upupabove · 1 points · Posted at 07:15:46 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
They know more because they are literally watching every bit of discussion, they know your beliefs and your thoughts, your aurguments, your opinions, they can track how you feel by what you down vote ect.
DontKillTheMedic · 1 points · Posted at 14:30:43 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
How is that any different or superior than capturing messenger conversation?
ZootedBeaver · 2 points · Posted at 18:50:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Then why are you on reddit if it is such a terrible place?
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 18:51:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wasting time, spreading awareness, simple habit. When have I ever stated I'm better than anyone here? I haven't.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:04:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
>Reddit knows more about you than Facebook does
Uhh no.. No they do not. That is an unbelievably absurd notion
itty53 · -2 points · Posted at 19:05:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Copypasting my response to someone else:
Really?
You've been here years on the same account, posting opinions, ideas, thoughts, laughs, wants, wishes, hopes, etc -- all under the auspices of anonymity.
You think reddit doesn't know more than facebook, when you know facebook isn't anonymous and you change your behavior because of that?
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 19:11:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit doesn't know who my friends are, where i shop, work, travel, etc. Reddit's app doesn't scrape my phone for contacts, calls, messages, etc. Reddit doesn't have trackers built into virtually every site on the internet tracking my browsing history. So Reddit may know more about what movies/tv shows I like, what sports I watch, etc but they sure as hell wouldn't be privy to as much sensitive information as Facebook would be with the average user. Nothing on the internet is anonymous.. only someone who is technically illiterate would think so.. so posting on Reddit and assuming it is "anonymous" when the authorities could easily track you down is another absurd notion
Hans_Brickface · 2 points · Posted at 17:49:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And assuming I'm blocking ads, what is Reddit going to do with this info? Do they have the ability to change what posts I see in the subs I subscribe to, as opposed to what everyone else sees? If that's the case, I could just create a separate profile and pull all articles down using RSS or JSON.
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 17:52:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sell it to the next campaign?
I mean already, they block things from your feed. Shadowbanning is a subtle form of that.
The big issue is not what this does to affect one individual, it's what it does to affect all of us. This whole notion of "doesn't affect me, I don't care" is ridiculous. It's as stupid as saying "I don't own guns, ergo I don't care about regulations". Or "I don't have anything to hide, ergo I don't care if we let governments spy on people". It's the same piss poor, selfish logic.
Hans_Brickface · 2 points · Posted at 18:00:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In that case, I would advise you to stop staring at the tree in front of you, step back, and look at the whole forest. The manipulation being discussed in this thread is being done on a societal level, and is basically what mainstream culture actually is. As in, ALL of it. Every. Fucking. Piece.
This manipulation isn't being done by some Dr. Evil-esque masterminds, but by people who are even bigger slaves than the ones they are enslaving; addicts getting high off their own supply.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 18:02:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's new it isn't old, and you're apparently okay with it, and I'm done with this conversation.
Hans_Brickface · 3 points · Posted at 18:13:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You missed the point, my friend. I'm not saying what is going on with social media is okay. I'm simply saying it's a very small piece of a much larger problem. Even if you unplugged everyone from Facebook and its ilk, there's a hundred other ways they can still be led around by the nose, by other people who are also being led around by the nose.
In other words, think bigger.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 18:15:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Now you're talkin':
I want to see serious regulations passed on data ownership. It'd be a tidal shift in the way the internet works, but it'd be addressing the real problem.
But that's a daydream. It'll never happen. So I simply choose to inform people directly.
snoop_Odin · 1 points · Posted at 21:04:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That's why I go to /r/the_donald and /r/politics and just say shit to offend everyone on both sides. They can't put me in a box!
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 21:05:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sure they can; you're a troll :p
snoop_Odin · 2 points · Posted at 21:11:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I even it out by going to r/aww and posting puppy pics!
RadioRoscoe · 1 points · Posted at 21:54:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That does not cover the fact that with FB you can learn who all of a person's friends and family are. Get pictures of them too...
Gadaeus1 · 1 points · Posted at 18:45:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
All of that is no issue if none of that can be traced to your name. Name and location are the big issues. Idgaf if you know my deepest darkest secrets if you can't put a face and location on them.
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 18:47:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
First, no, it's an issue still. Behavioral analytics doesn't care about your name or phone number. And your location can usually be derived from IP (which reddit has, of course). It's just as powerful without your specific name.
Second, yeah, they can attach it to a name. Easy. Provide a name on Service 1 (say, Facebook), they create a digital fingerprint of your behavior. sell to a third party.
Third party buys another data set from reddit, again, with that fingerprint. Analytics machines match the two profiles. Now they know your name on reddit.
Fairly simple to understand stuff, if you understand programming and database sets.
Gadaeus1 · 1 points · Posted at 18:49:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm not sold. You'd have to pull out the heavy guns to convince me on that one.
itty53 · 3 points · Posted at 18:50:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Honestly? Not my problem. You're informed of the possibility; go investigate it if you're at all worried. Research Behavioral Analytics. It's a serious concern, especially as of late regarding Cambridge Analytica.
If you're not, well, stick your head back in the sand.
In_shpurrs · 0 points · Posted at 18:10:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I will need to see some citations for the claims you’re making.
What is interesting is that on facebook we apply some sort of filter because we use our real name and family and colleagues are connected to the account.
On reddit that filter disappears because we think that nobody knows our username. Looking at you, /u/eatingyourmomsass
;)
eatingyourmomsass · 1 points · Posted at 19:43:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You don’t knowwwwwww me!
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 18:12:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No. Go look into it yourself, I'm not saying anything crazy or unbelievable. Take the extra time and educate yourself if you care. Or, if you don't, then don't. But it's not my responsibility to effectively change your mind.
In_shpurrs · 2 points · Posted at 18:20:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
didn’t claim or even insinuate anything like that. but you are naking a claim, i can ask for proof. i don’t even know where to begin to verify your claims. so, yes, it is your responsibility to change my mind.
itty53 · 0 points · Posted at 18:21:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And I can point you to Google.
^^^
I don't think that word means what you think it does..
If you don't believe it, don't. No skin off my back. If you want more information on it, you have the tools. You're an adult, right? You don't need me to hold your hand.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 17:41:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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itty53 · 4 points · Posted at 17:45:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They certainly facilitated The_Donald, which was highlighted as a primary reason for being elected by none other than Trump himself. They still do.
People forget that /u/spez is an open conservative. He is not a progressive or a liberal.
nowitholds · -4 points · Posted at 17:17:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh no... whatever will reddit do with the knowledge of my love for /r/SeaofThieves, /r/ProRevenge, /r/MaliciousCompliance, and /r/Trigun???
itty53 · 15 points · Posted at 17:18:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"I'm not a criminal, I have no reason to worry about the government spying on me".
Essentially the same argument.
nowitholds · -2 points · Posted at 17:24:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wouldn't say that's the same argument. The government spies without my knowledge of what it's spying on. I can control what information I choose to peruse or respond to on Reddit. I don't have any social media profiles because I don't like putting that information in someone else's database; the trade-off wasn't beneficial.
It's becoming common place to know that you trade off something for free services. Government is not a free service (we pay taxes) and should be held by a higher standard because it is a higher standard. Reddit can't arrest me; the government can. The government can subpoena reddit to help them, sure, but again I haven't given them any information that I wasn't willing to trade for reddit services.
itty53 · 7 points · Posted at 17:28:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes, you do have a social media profile. On reddit. In two years on reddit you've given them more data than most ever give Facebook.
With the comments you make over the course of time, that data can be used to create a very accurate digital fingerprint associated directly and only with you. They can guess your interests with a startling degree of accuracy. They can guess your leanings, your age, your location, your wealth status, etc.
You should care about it because it does affect your world. Trump got elected by using this kind of data to target people they calculated would be sympathetic to him. Your data played a role in that. Mine did too.
Shit, Zuckerberg was quoted as saying "We could swing elections if we wanted to, but of course we don't". He said that. Out loud. Reddit can too. Arguably, they already did. That's why this is important. Combine the behavior data with coordinated campaigns and you can change minds en masse. We've seen that happen too, with the net neutrality campaigns on reddit. Red icons everywhere. Convinced a lot of people to go to bat for the deep pockets like Facebook, Google, et al. It's incredibly effective.
nowitholds · 1 points · Posted at 17:37:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Find a way to get my photos, address, birthdate, favorite food, relatives, school, work, licenses, countries I've lived in, wives I've married, etc. off of reddit - because that ain't happening.
Sure, they can guess, but I'm still pooled in with quite a large nerd group - which is fine. I don't share details or comment on certain forums because I know that would add more specific data points. I make comments on forums I don't have interest in to throw in outliers. I'll even throw in alternative truths.
As I said, I know what I'm trading reddit for. I'll let them know what I'm interested in so that I can share that interest with others and have interesting conversations, like this one.
itty53 · 2 points · Posted at 17:39:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Right, so because you have that discipline, you're not worried about the world around you not having it? Because they clearly don't. And it does affect you. I've shown you how that affects you even if you never logged into reddit, or any social media. It affects your world.
But you don't care. Okay. Your call, I won't begrudge you that.
nowitholds · 2 points · Posted at 17:45:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh, I'm not arguing about if what they do affects my world. News companies have done that for a long time already. Governments and/or powerful bodies did it before then. There are tons of things that are more powerful than me that can affect the masses. I can't change stupid people, though. I can only make decisions and take actions for myself that I think will do some good.
itty53 · 1 points · Posted at 17:46:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fair enough. Me, I won't say I can't change people. I'm just trying to bring awareness to them here and now.
nowitholds · 2 points · Posted at 17:51:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You shared good information that would hopefully sway someone who isn't already paranoid. :)
MjrK · 2 points · Posted at 18:26:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He deleted the because he never had any idea that they even had a Facebook page so when a user asked him if he would delete Facebook, he stated he didn't even know they had one then they were deleted right after.
The interaction went down on Twitter. He wasn't making any grand comment about social media.
fifteen_two · 1 points · Posted at 19:10:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, I don't think they've really gotten both feet out of bed on this one.
Chicano_Ducky · 3 points · Posted at 22:45:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because Facebook is now part of the Mueller investigation and Zuck now looks like a paid propagandist for Russia when he sold services and targeted data to Cambridge Analytica which is a right wing propaganda group pushing lies to destabilize democracies and push far right ultra-nationalist rhetoric.
Facebook is now under federal investigation by the same man who took down Enron and is now investigating Trump. They are now a toxic brand and its no wonder investors are leaving.
Pascalwb · 4 points · Posted at 19:02:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because this is what he does. PR stunt.
TRAIN_WRECK_0 · 1 points · Posted at 19:24:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To send a message.
FrostyD7 · 0 points · Posted at 20:02:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Your seeing why right now, this resulted in mass news waves for himself and his properties. To assume its some random trolling by Elon isn't giving him enough credit.
MrShekelstein21 · -2 points · Posted at 00:43:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
The real reason is that zuckerberg didnt do enough to help hillary win the election.
Facebook was used by both parties but the democrats lost so they're more than happy sacrificing zuckerberg in an attempt to impeach trump somehow.
MjrK · -4 points · Posted at 18:28:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk was never personally aware that they had Facebook pages, so after someone alerted him to that fact, they were both deleted.
Ben716 · 24 points · Posted at 18:25:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musky should revolutionise social media like he's doing to transport and space....if he's the man....
SjettepetJR · 6 points · Posted at 19:04:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Social Media is a very different project from sapce exploration and electric car development. The latter two are purely progressive projects, where the goal is just to develop better ways of transport. He was one of the first to actually invest a lot of money into these fields and technologies.
Sociale media is different, as it is not a matter of technology, developing a social media platform the likes of facebook is easy. Social Media is the problem itself. Privacy on a social media platform is logically impossible. You want to share your data, but simultaniously want to keep your data private?
red5standingby375 · 8 points · Posted at 19:24:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not agreeing that he should necessarily be the man for the job, but you could also say that PayPal and Ebay don't necessarily translate to space and car companies... and yet here we are.
And I don't think Ben716 was being 100% serious. I think we all just want cool people running these giant corporations for a change, and Elon Musk is one in a million.
NotYetInsane · 1 points · Posted at 19:04:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think deleting it is revolutionizing. The new social media is no social media.
kombatunit · 1 points · Posted at 20:38:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hopefully, his Boring company with dig under facebook's building and collapse that festering sore.
Ben716 · 1 points · Posted at 06:00:33 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
That'd be awesome!! Not so boring boring company!
TheKinkslayer · 2 points · Posted at 19:00:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musky should cut all ties with [Facebook, Palantir, Trump, Tesla and SpaceX financier] Peter Thiel if he's the man...
...Otherwise Musky is just one of his blood boys.
canIbeMichael · 1 points · Posted at 19:01:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What was his transportation revolution?
I hope you are looking at something other than Tesla, failing car company that cannot make cars.
IsItTheFrankOrBeans · 4 points · Posted at 19:05:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter isn't any better than FB, and in many cases are worse.
edwartica · 8 points · Posted at 19:59:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I would love to see Elon Musk launch a Facebook killer. Just as Myspace was replacd by Facebook, so shall Facebook be replaced by something else.
Nimstar7 · 4 points · Posted at 18:54:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
After challenge? This wasn't a challenge. Some dude was just like "yo Elon you should delete your Facebook lul" and Elon was like "oh shit you're right I didn't even know it existed" and deleted it.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:26:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"didn't know"
TehSantos · 5 points · Posted at 19:14:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Phase 2 of "Use Reddit instead of Facebook".
Reddit can discriminate your tastes with way more accuracy than Facebook ever could. They know exactly what you click and when you goto the comments for a thread, and can use bots to brigade.
Elon Musk has been their Corporatist of choice.
DeleteReddit
supers0nic · 1 points · Posted at 03:24:57 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
There are people here complaining that reddit is worse... yet they are still here, lol.
canIdienow · 5 points · Posted at 21:23:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Isn't it sort of hypocritical to use one social media platform to bash another? Also fuck twitter
WazWaz · 3 points · Posted at 21:56:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No. Social media is not inherently evil. If someone wrote an anthology of book reviews, would that be hypocrisy?
huero415 · 2 points · Posted at 21:24:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter is way worse in my opinion.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:31:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elaborate on your opinion
Emelenzia · 5 points · Posted at 22:07:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean...its cool and all. But its a little cringe to complain about a social media website on another social media website which we are now discussing it on a third social media website.
FB is shitty but its not uniquely shitty. Twitter and Reddit is selling your information just as much as FB is. Only real difference is Twitter and Reddit has no pretext of privacy and pretty much 100% of what user does and says is shared with the public.
PiggleWork · 8 points · Posted at 18:49:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
this is the definition of virtue signaling
barc0debaby · 6 points · Posted at 19:08:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Delete Facebook but stay on Twitter...ain't that some shit.
JerseyMike3 · 5 points · Posted at 18:50:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is news?
fearme101 · 5 points · Posted at 18:54:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
i love how people think it's just Facebook and not all the other social media sites. Twitter must be looooving this.
iwviw · 2 points · Posted at 20:56:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They might be scared shitless itll trickle down to them
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 18:17:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'll keep saying it. People are writing this Facebook incident off way too quickly. This really may be the beginning of the end.
MjrK · 4 points · Posted at 18:59:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What do you mean by the end? Do you think Facebook will fold up in the next year? Or be sold off within the next year? Or do you see monthly active user numbers decline by >25% over the next year?
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:53:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm predicting a decline of 10%+ on an arbitrary basis. I'd love to sit and draw up a model rather than use intuition but it's too time consuming.
TRAIN_WRECK_0 · 2 points · Posted at 19:26:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't think the end is near at all. I do think though that this is the beginning of their decline. Facebook is the only way some people are able to connect with each other and stay updated on each others lives.
DicedPeppers · 1 points · Posted at 20:14:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Seriously. Two billion people. This is a thing that isn't ever going to just disappear.
axialclown · 0 points · Posted at 20:07:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I do think that people are beginning to start thinking about what privacy means to them. Hopefully some better platforms come from it.
Good time for encrypted privacy centric developers to pitch their ideas.
Minds? Mastodon? Tumblr? Vero? Ello? Diaspora?
TRAIN_WRECK_0 · 1 points · Posted at 20:16:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Most people are not concerned with privacy as much as we'd like to think. People will just use whatever is most popular. Though if high profile people start jumping ship because of this privacy issues, it might cause the people who don't really are about privacy to jump ship too.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:01:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There is no other platform that does what they do nearly as well. Most people use it to keep in touch with people they’ve met or know really well. People don’t want to have a tiny group of people they call from time to time and that’s the extent of it. Until another platform comes along that can be easily taught to older people as well then Facebook isn’t going anywhere.
evilroots · 13 points · Posted at 17:41:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'd do this but facebook is one of the only ways i keep in touch with some family, i do not own a working cellphone atm.
I live in rural MT.
its either prepaid ( $$$ and very limited ) or Verizon( still alot of $$$), no matter what we have a lot of dead zones
ucfgavin · 21 points · Posted at 17:55:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
i used to think that way...now i'm realizing i was just using that as an excuse to not actually talk to them :o
axialclown · 3 points · Posted at 20:13:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You’re onto something here... You could say the whole social media connection thing really doesn’t make us feel connected in the first place.
ucfgavin · 3 points · Posted at 20:17:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thats the way I've started to see it more recently...what I know about people recently is what I've picked up from their facebooks...but thats not really them, thats just what they put out there. I'm trying to get into the habit of actually reaching out and texting those folks now
freshthrowaway1138 · 2 points · Posted at 18:41:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm right there with you. I don't own a cell phone and so facebook is how I keep track of people. For those saying that I should call people, they forget about time zones and how difficult it is to arrange times to talk because of the differences in schedules. So I either see someone in real life (which is rare) or I drop a note on FB.
I did have a mobile at one point because I'm so poor I qualified for a government-paid one, but I lost it because I didn't use it enough times per month.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:41:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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freshthrowaway1138 · 1 points · Posted at 23:41:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
True, but facebook is just easier. And it's not like I'm gonna email most people unless I see them post something that I would be interested in talking about. I just don't talk to folks.
Also, I use Gmail, so i doubt that my information isn't being harvested by google already.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:38:50 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
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freshthrowaway1138 · 1 points · Posted at 02:10:54 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
How is Gmail the lesser evil than Facebook? I'm still getting targeted ads. I'm still having a large multinational selling my personal data that it harvests from my communications. At least with FB, I can read about people without actually having to waste time writing to them or being endlessly CC'd on boring updates about their kids.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:17:52 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
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freshthrowaway1138 · 1 points · Posted at 07:02:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ah, so now you want me to change all my emails?
But anyways, it sounds like you're just angry about the whole "social network" thing with Facebook and it wouldn't change if I switched to any other social network page. You remind me of all of those people who used to get so angry about people getting off usenet and onto the WWW. Pretty much sound the same, just a dislike for an easy to dispense place for information. Meh.
BlueOak777 · 1 points · Posted at 19:33:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
pro tip, get tracfone on an LG phone. LG phones use the entire Verizon network so you get all of the benefits of Verizon for like $20 a month.
Personally I would get the $100 a yr plan plus an extra $20-$30 card to buff up whatever you use the most (talk,text,data) as needed.
Unless you're downloading porn constantly you'll be good.
IOwnYourData · -7 points · Posted at 18:17:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What's wrong with a phone call?
evilroots · 5 points · Posted at 18:22:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I live in rural MT its either prepaid ( $$$ and very limited ) or Verizon( still a lot of $$$), no matter what we have a lot of dead zones
hey-look-over-there · -7 points · Posted at 18:46:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And you don't have land lines? You can get a land line for about $10 a month...
DMAN591 · 11 points · Posted at 18:50:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He lives in rural MT its either prepaid ( $$$ and very limited ) or Verizon( still a lot of $$$), no matter what he has a lot of dead zones
hey-look-over-there · -6 points · Posted at 18:54:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I understand but I also lived in a rural Texas county that was new and undeveloped. We didn't have any cellphone coverage or dial-up alternative available (at least not until 2012). However, the government had a program where they expanded and brought in a postal center and land lines as soon as the territory was listed as inhabited.
r_zunabius · 8 points · Posted at 21:02:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You live in Texas, he lives in rural MT its either prepaid ( $$$ and very limited ) or Verizon( still a lot of $$$), no matter what he has a lot of dead zones
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 19:14:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Get a fucking obamaphone (well technically its a bush phone)
[deleted] · -24 points · Posted at 18:00:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Get their phone number ffs. You support evil Facebook and should be shunned
evilroots · 15 points · Posted at 18:01:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
you say that while posting to a site that also collects ur data
[deleted] · -21 points · Posted at 18:03:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nice whataboutism. Reddit isn't nearly as bad as Facebook and you support them. You deserve to be shunned and mocked for still supporting Facebook. What kind of monster can't bother to keep in contact with people in other ways besides an evil website
evilroots · 4 points · Posted at 18:04:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I do not own a working cell phone.
ZootedBeaver · -3 points · Posted at 18:48:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Lmao yeah right
[deleted] · -6 points · Posted at 18:37:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yea. Sure. It's 2018 not my fault you're so [fill in the blank adjective] for not owning a cell phone.
r_zunabius · 5 points · Posted at 21:03:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He lives in rural MT its either prepaid ( $$$ and very limited ) or Verizon( still a lot of $$$), no matter what he has a lot of dead zones
r_zunabius · 3 points · Posted at 21:02:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He lives in rural MT its either prepaid ( $$$ and very limited ) or Verizon( still a lot of $$$), no matter what he has a lot of dead zones
[deleted] · -9 points · Posted at 18:03:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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evilroots · 2 points · Posted at 18:04:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I do not own a working cell phone.
IOwnYourData · -5 points · Posted at 18:18:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've seen $5/month cell phone plans fwiw
evilroots · 3 points · Posted at 18:23:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I live in rural MT, we don't get deal like that.
its either prepaid ( $$$ and very limited ) or Verizon( still alot of $$$), no matter what we have a lot of dead zones
IOwnYourData · 1 points · Posted at 18:24:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
hit em up on a ham radio ;)
evilroots · 5 points · Posted at 18:25:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you look, i am a ham radio op. they would also need to be a ham op to be able to talk to them. and HF propagation isn't very good with the current solar cycle.
KG7QEO
TehDandiest · 2 points · Posted at 18:56:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Now is the time for the anti social network I've been hearing so much buzz about.
GunBrothersGaming · 2 points · Posted at 19:10:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Queue up the many sheep who will think "Better delete my facebook because Elon Musk did."
zhadn · 2 points · Posted at 19:13:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
For anyone interested, here's his thoughts on Instagram, taken from this tweet
As a reminder, Facebook owns Instagram.
btcftw1 · 2 points · Posted at 19:15:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How is he gonna fly into space with those steel balls
CarlosDanger0123 · 1 points · Posted at 19:23:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That’s a great question.
Let’s give him 3 months and he’ll figure a work-around for his wrought-iron nut bag.
Edosurist · 2 points · Posted at 19:39:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Headlines tomorrow: Auto industry billionaire slashes public outreach program spending, leaves workers unemployed
Samp1e-Text · 2 points · Posted at 19:39:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon is a goddamn legend
Luklear · 2 points · Posted at 19:41:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Kind of hilarious they're doing it while using Twitter, and I'm complaining about it on reddit.
ChzzHedd · 2 points · Posted at 19:46:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon Musk news about deleting Facebook? Oh man, when two huge Reddit circlejerks combine, you know it's hitting the top.
ironpatriot87 · 2 points · Posted at 19:49:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Bet you won't, said the doubters
Who not, said Elon
cyrax_wins · 2 points · Posted at 19:50:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Your move, Myspace Tom.
pinniped1 · 2 points · Posted at 20:00:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Plot twist: Tesla is pouring huge resources into their Friendster page.
Poogoestheweasel · 2 points · Posted at 20:02:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Good start.
Now how about deleting the Twitter account. Or do people think they don't mine data too?
Norskey · 2 points · Posted at 20:03:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think it's time we turn the tide... everyone needs to change their old accounts to a new accounts with another name, interests, pictures etc so that these companies waste their resources collecting data in people who don't exist
Cobwebbyarc6 · 2 points · Posted at 20:04:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I want to be Elon Musk.
Tizzanewday · 2 points · Posted at 20:06:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What makes twitter any less complicit in all this? Delete that too Musk
scottcphotog · 2 points · Posted at 20:10:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He should start a Google+ page
Maybe check out myspace
steveinusa · 2 points · Posted at 20:18:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People still use facebook?
CPerryG · 2 points · Posted at 20:19:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Serious question: is this whole Facebook thing a lash out at Trump? Or is it purely a social media stab?
taeg1 · 1 points · Posted at 20:25:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s a lash out at Facebook. I don’t know he details, but it’s something about private user info.
CPerryG · 1 points · Posted at 21:49:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They keep using the whole “because of Trump....” statement. I know this is a norm for campaigns; I’m concerned they keep throwing his name out to lump the negativity to him as well.
Lauantaina · 2 points · Posted at 20:21:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon reckons he can tank Facebook the same way a Kardashian tanked Snapchat.
Jklolsorry · 2 points · Posted at 20:22:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Everyone from FB will come over to the new and improved social media platform, Reddit!
DetroitConcealment · 2 points · Posted at 20:28:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Next step is social media on a blockchain. You own the private key to your data where you can lease and revoke public keys to other private keys to see your data.
Edit: autocorrect
FrozenfoxN8 · 2 points · Posted at 20:30:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I had a problem with the article and lack of information in it. What's the back story? Why was Musk supporting this? Is this a permanent thing? How are people reacting to Elon's action? Since one went through the trouble of screen-grabbing the Facebook accounts, where is the screen grab of Musk's twitter highlighting the reasoning and interaction? Is print space a premium? Oh wait, this is digital...
Thanks to TooShiftyForYou for doing the job of the reporter
Boomynation · 2 points · Posted at 20:31:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So, are we all moving back to Myspace now? Lol
Flying_noodle_dicks · 2 points · Posted at 20:35:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This would be a prime time for him to introduce a new platform, and market its security
sitsitsitonyou · 2 points · Posted at 20:37:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean, isn't instagram owned by facebook??
collapsing_sanity · 2 points · Posted at 20:41:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon Musk could create a new social network called MySpace... oh wait.
jechtshot3eigths · 2 points · Posted at 20:44:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned that in this cartoon ass fucking world that we live in, that the Elon Musk situation would be a fantastic beginning to a story about a comic book villain. Like one day he’s in one of those labs and doesn’t wear the white coat cause he’s too cool for school and some space chemical gets on him and all of a sudden he gets super powers.
jiveturkey9000 · 2 points · Posted at 20:48:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I text my friends. Couldn’t we all just text our friends and families?
mr_arm · 2 points · Posted at 20:59:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Dang, whatsapp is owned by FB too? That’s what I switched to to get off of Messenger..
Kigon_Sol · 2 points · Posted at 21:08:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon Musk is pr badly the closest thing this world will get to Batman
PlayR489 · 2 points · Posted at 21:15:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon Musk is based as fuck
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 21:22:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To be fair everyone is... Just by saying someones biased you are judging them automatically making you biased
PlayR489 · 1 points · Posted at 21:23:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Based and biased are two different things. Based is not giving a fuck and doing what you want in a slick way
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:46:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ohh... Yeah thats how most south africans are
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:30:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk is the new supreme leader. As a muskinite I have done my part #deletefacebook
RLbeesting · 2 points · Posted at 21:34:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can we all just bring back MySpace? I want to take selfies in full length mirrors again!
Ba6al · 2 points · Posted at 21:37:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
“Despite the anti-Facebook stance Musk is taking, SpaceX and Tesla are still alive on Instagram, which is owned by Facebook. Perhaps Musk will shun that platform, too — if he is the man”.
Damn, I wonder if he does know and if he will. ( if he is the man).
Rc2124 · 2 points · Posted at 21:38:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Somewhere a social media team cries out in terror and is suddenly silenced
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:38:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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FERALCATWHISPERER · 1 points · Posted at 21:40:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Right? There's so many of these garbage Elon Musk posts everyday. Call me when he's finished with a hyperloop in our country. Thanks.
Colbeagle · 2 points · Posted at 21:40:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
what a fuckin nightmare for there marketing people.
"Yeah CEO called, he wants us to delete one of our social channels."
"Oh what's the justification for this?"
"Some nobody on twitter asked him too."
"...we have 60,000 uniques..."
"DELETE IT NOW"
Grsz11 · 2 points · Posted at 21:42:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
afatedcircle · 2 points · Posted at 21:44:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
In reality he most likely simply unpublished them and will republish them at a later date.
sirmoveon · 2 points · Posted at 21:48:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The irony in doing social media by deleting your social media presence
helpnxt · 2 points · Posted at 22:07:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can't wait to see the fall out when it turns out that twitter has probably been doing the same thing.
TraviAdpet · 1 points · Posted at 22:46:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Since nothing other than DM’s are private on twitter it doesn’t really matter does it?
OriginalDurs · 2 points · Posted at 22:08:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
their marketing department is (likely) scrambling and he's just nuking shit because of twitter. i love the internet.
Lilbrother_21 · 2 points · Posted at 22:15:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wonder if this will affect Facebook at all in terms of stocks
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 22:18:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well, back to MySpace
Mangowryyder · 2 points · Posted at 22:47:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Cool, can't wait for Tesla's own Muskbook to pop up.
Vvm102 · 2 points · Posted at 22:49:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Cause it was fake to begin with
zombiegirl2010 · 2 points · Posted at 22:50:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon should start a social media platform, and call it FaceSpace.
Stoneyloner39 · 2 points · Posted at 23:19:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Does it really matter? Too late for anything to be done face book already has the information it needed
filss · 2 points · Posted at 23:22:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Creating an app and selling it for 16 billions dollars a few years later blows my mind.
Legendary176 · 2 points · Posted at 23:26:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Honestly, we should all agree Elon Musk is just crazy. Like dude was sitting around, probably in his underground lair, and thought, "I'm gonna send a car to space!".
Voxicious · 2 points · Posted at 23:26:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Now to create Spacebook.
_glass_of_water · 2 points · Posted at 23:33:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So why does Musk still have an Instagram?
blurryfacedfugue · 2 points · Posted at 23:34:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well, that's a pretty cool development that I didn't think I'd ever see, which is a lashback against Zuck's horrible company. And real backlash at that!
Fly2Death · 2 points · Posted at 23:39:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why is this even a big deal
PM_THE_GUY_BELOW_ME · 2 points · Posted at 23:50:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How long until we can expect MuskBook(c) to be announced
basements_in_london · 2 points · Posted at 23:54:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hahaha, "what facebook?" Classic Elon. Good thing I don't have any facebook, instagram, Twitter, whatsapp, just get my spacex news straight from Spacexnow. Link
gnodnarb · 2 points · Posted at 00:13:41 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I challenge Mr. Musk to delete the debt these companies produce next.
Bacon_Soles · 2 points · Posted at 00:14:12 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Instagram is owned by Facebook.
waffleisland · 2 points · Posted at 00:19:47 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
All still on Instagram soooo
SoundDr · 2 points · Posted at 00:22:10 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is so stupid. People are stopping using Amazon, Facebook, Uber and all these other tech companies.
Is boycotting the answer? If you leave because you don't agree, the community that is left is less diversified and has less perspectives. You are create more hostile places and discourage unity and community.
If instead you stay and stand up and communicate like we do on Reddit you will see how people can coexist while not agreeing about something.
Deleting Facebook isn't the answer, its our culture. We want free, and free always has a cost. You may not have wanted to pay for Facebook but something has to keep the servers running. Maybe if people started paying for software more developers will not have to find every possible way to make a living.
theconceiver · 2 points · Posted at 04:11:53 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
no, not quite... you are leaving more hostile places.
ottomaggic · 2 points · Posted at 00:30:50 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook truly is garbage
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 00:31:12 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I cannot wait for this season of South Park.
dismalrapture · 2 points · Posted at 00:32:40 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
The Tesla page is still up. Also someone made an Elon Musk page with 82k viewers. The comments on there are people thinking it's his personal page.
Hansel-356 · 2 points · Posted at 00:46:21 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I followed the page, along with pretty much everything space-related. Too bad. But I ain't even mad. I love this guy.
TikkiTakiTomtom · 2 points · Posted at 01:02:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It must be hard being a hero. Having to follow other’s ridiculous expectations and not be able to have full freedom to speak or enact the way things ought to be from their perspective. There’s fear of backlash and ostracism. Fear of rejection and disapproval. Public declarations to appease the masses while casting aside their own self. Soon after by justifications of their own effort they’ll no longer have a means to get back to their own reality. Tightly they hold onto this facade until they forget who they are and where they come from, forever removing their life essence from a now empty husk.
bovas1991 · 2 points · Posted at 01:06:19 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
What if he just temporarily de activated his account and come up with it after a few weeks and most of the people have already deleted their Facebook pages permenantly by taking this challenge very seriously
LMAO. 😂😂😂😂
marriage_iguana · 2 points · Posted at 02:19:16 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I was unaware that Twitter was apparently on the moral high ground as compared to FB.
S4MH41N · 2 points · Posted at 02:58:50 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I dunno, I'm still not impressed...
absolute madlad.
Russian_bot_55 · 1 points · Posted at 03:22:34 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don't forget the boring company, where he is literally boring holes underground to create hi ways, also don't forgot neural lace where he wants to connect our brains to a computer
c-lent · 2 points · Posted at 14:39:10 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don’t think it’s going anywhere but I do think people will use it less and less..I find myself on it much less and following much less people
Aeris_24 · 10 points · Posted at 19:20:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What pisses me off about this, is that for years, I've been warning people of Facebook's bullfuckery, and I've been written off as some edgy hipster.
I've lost dates because when I said "I don't have a Facebook", they would interpret it as "I'm not interested".
My only solace is that I can go back and say "I was right", but still. This is bullshit, and I know I sound like a butthurt edgy hipster. But damnit, it is so unfair.
CarlosDanger0123 · 3 points · Posted at 19:21:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hipsters are used to responding to unfairness. Just be more hipster.
Aeris_24 · 3 points · Posted at 19:35:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's a never ending cycle. I will say that I'm not a hipster, because I'm not doing it to standout, and that is exactly what a hipster would say.
Send help.
CarlosDanger0123 · 1 points · Posted at 20:06:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s a destructive loop. Perhaps cognitive behavioral therapy would help?
pedantic_asshole_ · 1 points · Posted at 20:27:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you lost dates because of a miscommunication that's on you.
Aeris_24 · -4 points · Posted at 20:40:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh I'm sure. Just like all the fake numbers you ever collected, right?
incelchad · 2 points · Posted at 22:08:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
2 cool 4 fb
Aeris_24 · 2 points · Posted at 22:42:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Before it got all popular
incelchad · 2 points · Posted at 22:44:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Social media is only as good as its size
BlackManMoan · 1 points · Posted at 22:25:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You didn't lose dates because you said, "I don't have a Facebook". If someone is genuinely interested in you, they could give a fuck about what social media platform you're involved in.
This has to be a troll...
Aeris_24 · 1 points · Posted at 22:41:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People will add you to FB more readily than give you their phone number.
You can't be this naive, you have to be a troll.
BlackManMoan · 1 points · Posted at 00:07:37 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I like turtles.
hugokhf · 4 points · Posted at 18:56:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon, if you are reading this, I dare you to give me $10million no strings attached...........
or maybe just meet the model 3 production target
Stanwich79 · 3 points · Posted at 19:01:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How the fuck am I supposed to follow my man crush now?
Nurizeko · 1 points · Posted at 19:53:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You park across the street from his house with binoculars and follow his every movement.
Stanwich79 · 2 points · Posted at 21:41:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeeeeaaaahhhhhhh....... The lineup of binocular filled cars is pretty long in front of his house.
Carp8DM · 1 points · Posted at 19:02:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google news notifications?
squigglycorners · 3 points · Posted at 19:08:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I feel bad for the Digital Communications team
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:20:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Google + forever! Join me there, comrades! /s
Blue_Bomber7 · 3 points · Posted at 03:24:03 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Honestly I would delete my Facebook too if my family wasn't all on there.
TheRadAbides · 4 points · Posted at 05:34:45 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
There is phone, email, text, letter, packages, and video calling...other options to communicate with family and friends exist. And the other ones aren't a steaming pile of shit like facebook...
PastelNihilism · 4 points · Posted at 06:09:44 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Good luck explaining ANOTHER social media site to grandma.
exelion18120 · 2 points · Posted at 08:02:27 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Damn kids with their facechats and snapgrams
PastelNihilism · 3 points · Posted at 08:09:08 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
And what about twatter?
exelion18120 · 2 points · Posted at 08:09:44 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fuckin twatter
test12345test1 · 2 points · Posted at 08:49:22 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
And literally none of those have the same capabilities as facebook. You pretty much just proved his point.
TheRadAbides · 1 points · Posted at 18:02:06 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
the capability to be filled with garbage and wastes of time instead of ways to communicate?
test12345test1 · 1 points · Posted at 03:54:40 on March 25, 2018 · (Permalink)
No, the capability to easily post pictures or messages that all your friends can see and react to.
TheRadAbides · 1 points · Posted at 21:14:03 on March 25, 2018 · (Permalink)
And we need this why.
test12345test1 · 1 points · Posted at 04:36:10 on March 26, 2018 · (Permalink)
No one needs it, but people want it and like it.
Angeleno88 · 1 points · Posted at 23:24:58 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why does that matter? I haven't spoken to my parents in nearly a year.
Conor3oh3 · 3 points · Posted at 03:55:35 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
What happens to the poor social media manager in charge of those?
jtranos00 · 3 points · Posted at 06:16:03 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
When it said “he tried to preserve his man status” is when I knew it was a white feminist who wrote the article
muteuser · 6 points · Posted at 19:15:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No one will remove themselves from Facebook. Just not going to happen because it's too valuable for people to stay connected with people without actually talking to them.
supers0nic · 1 points · Posted at 03:26:21 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I won’t say that “no one” will delete FB, but people who really care will. The vast majority will just move on like it’s no big deal.
Nomanodyssey · 3 points · Posted at 18:25:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Okay, but f*** twitter too
orojinn · 4 points · Posted at 21:55:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon delete Twitter too. Go delete all social media while your at it. I mean you think its only facebook that does shady stuff.
robizzle89 · 3 points · Posted at 18:41:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Page will be back in 3 weeks. You can quote this.
Nicholas-Rage · 5 points · Posted at 18:58:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"this" - robizzle89
ScreamingAmish · 5 points · Posted at 18:58:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Done. Thanks!
BoSheck · 2 points · Posted at 19:02:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Within three weeks: "Elon Musk announces new social media platform after Facebook row."
robizzle89 · 1 points · Posted at 20:45:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Where can I buy shares to ride the hype? /s :D
supers0nic · 1 points · Posted at 03:28:07 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
RemindMe! Three weeks
Casual_ADHD · 2 points · Posted at 18:09:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/nottheonion r/wallstreetbets
OMyBuddha · 2 points · Posted at 20:04:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Head over to the conservative subs, where they hate Facebook too.
But that's out of guilt avoidance isn't it?
Thump604 · 2 points · Posted at 21:16:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who here still has a FB account?
ClearerWaves · 3 points · Posted at 23:11:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Your mom. At first I thought of that as a joke but I'm probably right aren't I
Thump604 · 1 points · Posted at 03:52:10 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
She died recently. Her account is still there.
Jex117 · 2 points · Posted at 23:59:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Breaking news, this just in:
ELON MUSK IS THE FUCKING MAN
Stan_poo_pie · 2 points · Posted at 00:51:10 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
What’s an Elon musk?
wpokcnumber4 · 3 points · Posted at 19:02:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There's a need for Wikipedia or Mozilla or other non profit organization to drive a social media network. One with a much better featureset that auto ages content out and deletes it.
johnbillaby · 2 points · Posted at 20:10:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is this all because Facebook again shared data with people from politics, like they did for Obama so famously in 2012? Such consistent integrity from humans, lulz.
dayrise · 4 points · Posted at 20:19:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
PR move and Reddit eats it up of course. Think Elon gives a crap about your privacy on Facebook or how things panned out because of these kinds of leaks? He's still on Twitter which is also complicit in letting Russian bots overtake their platform. The amount of people in this thread alone hoping Musk comes up with his own social network is stunning. Pure fanaticism.
Here he is schmoozing with Steve Bannon when he was on Trump's Advisory Council which I'll remind he spent months defending his role in. Result? Nada, after talking up their progress -- still out of the Paris Climate Agreement. You know what he did ask about though, Approval to build his Hyperloop.. He's really got your interests in mind. Had a pretty good reason to be close to Trump, I guess.
Doesn't even give a shit about his own workers' safety and actively prevents his workers from unionizing.
He was one of several workers who said they had seen co-workers collapse or be taken away in ambulances.
More?
I'll add that in the early days of the Tesla facility, these accidents were even worse but..
So much for transparency! The cycle repeats, and the billionaire with all the great ideas at one time will be the one spending his money paying off politicians, controlling PR, building their monopoly and maintaining it. This is how reality stars become president, people just uncritically circle-jerking the rich.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:58:27 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
If only someone would tweet him challenging him to treat his workers better.
Stonedrosie · 2 points · Posted at 18:39:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wouldn’t want to be in the social media teams over at Tesla and Space X right now.
TH313 · 2 points · Posted at 18:53:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
RIP the job of the whoever managed those pages, he must look at that tweet in anger.
PowerOfTheirSource · 2 points · Posted at 18:43:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
IMHO this is the wrong move. Official pages for companies don't have personal information, and the outreach to people still on facebook is more important than a token gesture.
NewFolgers · 1 points · Posted at 19:00:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It makes more sense in the context of Tesla having no traditional advertising (they have the occasional PR stunt or Apple-style event.. but what else?), and ditching the dealership model. It's part of their brand image now (and engineers tend to love it - he needs them to come work hard and make his stuff), and this is a part of that. His brand loyalty is totally through the roof - and that could come in handy.
So in isolation, this could be considered a token gesture.. but it's obviously part of a larger pattern of Elon Musk being awesome. As a strategy thing, the problem I'd see is that they ought to have a plan for when he's no longer running things. There's a strong cult-of-personality thing going on (which in this case, is pretty well-deserved.. but it's a risk nonetheless).
PowerOfTheirSource · 1 points · Posted at 19:31:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Point taken for Tesla, but for SpaceX, getting (and keeping) people excited about space is Important (yes, with a capital I).
theivoryserf · -1 points · Posted at 19:24:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I disagree
GeistMD · -1 points · Posted at 18:24:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
One day we're going to boycott our way back into the stone age.
elvisuaw · 6 points · Posted at 19:04:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As someone who made his first phone call on a wall mounted rotary phone, lived through pagers, text paging, car phones, portable cellular phone packs simple analog cellphones, the Motorola Rzr all the way to the George Orwell inspired device in my hand right now-we would all probably be better off in the Stone Age.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:22:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you knew the conditions we lived in during the stone age, I think you'd disagree. Even if we were born 100 years ago, the majority of us wouldn't have survived to our current ages or would be living with severe hardships.
elvisuaw · 1 points · Posted at 00:20:46 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Actually, I probably know a lot more about it than you do. But instead of being a douchebag like you, I’ll just point out that it was just a musing about how the very technology meant to simplify our lives actually complicates it. Now go waste your time with someone who gives a shit what you think.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 09:24:31 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/getoffmylawn
elvisuaw · 1 points · Posted at 10:15:46 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
r/eatadick
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:01:11 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/iamverysmart
pedantic_asshole_ · -8 points · Posted at 20:26:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So edgy
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 00:23:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
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25Anon25 · 1 points · Posted at 03:01:52 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Damn dude, relax.
St_Bernardus · 1 points · Posted at 18:26:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They signed up for instagram tho
BadModNoAds · 1 points · Posted at 18:32:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Does Elon have some foundation I can give to that does good deals or at least screws over the corrupt using my donations?
veryInoffensive · 1 points · Posted at 18:50:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why didn't #cutforbieber ever get this much publicity?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:53:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:15:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You can send group SMS'
Also I recommend Signal. Everything is encrypted and its open source.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:22:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:36:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Signal only requires an internet connection.
sinus86 · 1 points · Posted at 18:55:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There's a Social Media director quielty moving his stuff up to the roof.
Afreeq · 1 points · Posted at 19:04:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Its Zuckerbergs genius plan to move everyone to instagram. Which he also owns. Brilliant!
Dave_Unknown · 1 points · Posted at 19:44:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wouldn’t go that far, I just think instagram is his backup plan when the inevitable happens.
TheFatal693 · 1 points · Posted at 19:05:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hope he doesnt notice theres a subreddit too.
TheMooseIsBlue · 1 points · Posted at 19:07:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If you listen closely, you can hear the social media folks in their corporate communications office updating their resumes.
das2121 · 1 points · Posted at 19:07:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is Musk a signal investor?
LargeWu · 1 points · Posted at 19:08:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook sold your data to a company that clandestinely swayed people during the 2016 elections. Twitter, on the other hand, just gave a megaphone to Trump himself, for free. Not sure which is worse.
jeanschyso · 1 points · Posted at 19:30:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
One is free speech, one is stealing information.
damn_this_is_hard · 1 points · Posted at 19:08:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
FYI, a fb page can be moved to an unpublished state without affecting its future listing when moved back to publish. Musk's marketing peeps know their shit.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:08:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Would be dope if musk did a fb/yt alternative.
MartianMailman · 1 points · Posted at 19:09:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah no one's gonna care though
Spikebob21 · 1 points · Posted at 19:11:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Cambridge Analytica, a consulting firm that worked on President Trump’s election campaign, had improperly acquired data
raiderkev · 1 points · Posted at 19:11:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Coming soon. Elonbook
larrrrrrrrrrry · 1 points · Posted at 19:12:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
About time I closed mine down on my birthday 3 years ago. Haven’t missed it once.
ndndmdthrowaway · 1 points · Posted at 19:12:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can he send us the inside scoop on this? I emailed those dummies and they haven't responded
drimago · 1 points · Posted at 19:13:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How did he managed to delete it that fast? I thought it takes 90 days before Facebook even starts the process...
CarlosDanger0123 · 2 points · Posted at 19:24:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He is part man, part myth
That’s how
drimago · 2 points · Posted at 19:34:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I am actually ok with this explanation! All hail the Musk
Dave_Unknown · 1 points · Posted at 19:47:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook pages have an “unpublish” button, it stops the page being seen by anyone, but can be activated again and be the same as it was before.
whatwouldiwant · 1 points · Posted at 19:13:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
...delet this?
k_can95 · 1 points · Posted at 19:13:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh another PR stunt. Not like him.
LiarsEverywhere · 1 points · Posted at 19:15:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We need a new and open social network. Like what Firefox did to browsers.
Cky_vick · 1 points · Posted at 19:15:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Pretty sad that this is a news article.
DanDav · 1 points · Posted at 19:16:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wow, I wonder if more will follow suit. Ever since they changed the timeline algorithm there isn't exactly a huge incentive for businesses to be on FB anyway. Will be interesting to see what comes of it.
awe300 · 1 points · Posted at 19:16:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Get a load of this guy!
drifters74 · 1 points · Posted at 19:17:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What does this mean?
PersistentConnection · 1 points · Posted at 19:17:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fuck it. It's all about that Diaspora and ProtonMail. And when those get subverted we'll move on somewhere else.
itsmeurbrothr · 1 points · Posted at 19:17:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I already deleted facebook years ago. I dont need the media to notify me when large companies are doing shady shit. I am fully capable of thinking critically on my own. In this moment I am euphoric.
Coldhandles · 1 points · Posted at 19:19:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Everyone using Gryzzl since 2017 anyhow.
Gurgelmajs · 1 points · Posted at 19:19:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The guy is a PR-genius. Everything he does is about standing out, creating headlines and start discussions.
CarlosDanger0123 · 1 points · Posted at 19:22:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Agree, but... More like a PR God
besthuman · 1 points · Posted at 19:19:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I love Musk, but this is a bad call.
pooballer · 1 points · Posted at 19:22:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The Man (by The Killers) https://youtu.be/w3xcybdis1k
ceribus_peribus · 1 points · Posted at 19:23:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What about the Boring company?
Howyoudooooing · 1 points · Posted at 19:25:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hereby I delete my facebook too. What's the new upcoming platform?
Hemoh2o · 1 points · Posted at 19:26:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Side note, my SO used to work with work for Solar City. Absolutely amazing company to work for. Almost like Google for blue collar workers.
GatorGuard · 1 points · Posted at 19:26:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wow. So brave. One Mega Corporation stops supporting another.
Get this goofy shit off my front page.
Khiraji · 1 points · Posted at 19:27:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But that was how I watched Falcon launches
Scaphism92 · 1 points · Posted at 19:27:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"Whats facebook" oh come on elon dont be That Guy
lookingtolearn1231 · 1 points · Posted at 19:28:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
facebook has a pretty shitty ecosystem for apps and data security. It's also absolutely flooded with clickbait bullshit. But I don't really see much of an improvement with any other tech companies. Google literally knows every single thing about you and I have zero faith that long-term, this won't get extracted by governments or other tech companies
Canadian2087 · 1 points · Posted at 19:29:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We should all do the same.
grantmoore3d · 1 points · Posted at 19:29:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wow, that's a pretty big statement.
Nothin2Say · 1 points · Posted at 19:31:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This makes me like Mr. Musk even more.
7th_Spectrum · 1 points · Posted at 19:32:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon musk doesn't understand the concept of a joke
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:32:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wouldn't have begun watching live launches of Space X rockets without the Facebook feed. For outreach, you reach people where they already are instead of making them come to you.
Meme25327 · 1 points · Posted at 19:32:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This series of tweets just confirms that he does not give a fuck
Ho_Bag · 1 points · Posted at 19:34:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What’s Facebook?
unexplainableentity · 1 points · Posted at 19:34:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Deactivating is not the same as deleting. One click can still bring them back.
toiletzombie · 1 points · Posted at 19:35:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Bet it's at the top of futurology in the next half hour. They love them some musky dick
JoeyDubbs · 1 points · Posted at 19:35:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Their Myspace page just got a facelift.
raftah99 · 1 points · Posted at 19:36:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I thought Tesla had zero marketing budget and only gain attention by doing sensational things like deleting their social media platforms.
ubebread · 1 points · Posted at 19:36:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How do you even delete fb? Don't they only disable it?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:40:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No you can straight delete your account. I’ve done it.
Sharpstuff444 · 1 points · Posted at 19:41:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk is the man. The more I learn about him the more I respect him.
trancedellic · 1 points · Posted at 19:42:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let's see what else he'd do!
GammaG3 · 1 points · Posted at 19:43:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Meanwhile MySpace pokes its head out from its dark dwelling, eyes glistening at the turmoil over at its vanquisher Facebook with a spark of hope...
PhiloZoli · 1 points · Posted at 19:44:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well, Elon has the mind which knows exactly Mark knew what's going on well. It was a crime, not a mistake.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:45:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Tom from myspace is looking real good about now!
011000110111001001 · 1 points · Posted at 19:46:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We told Elon to delete his company's Facebook pages and he actually did it, the mad man!
Am-I-famous-yet · 1 points · Posted at 19:47:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I would totally use whatever social media platform Musk came up with. Would probably encourage only productive conversation, none of this highlight reel advertising bs.
sunnybeach3 · 1 points · Posted at 19:47:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Man, I wish he could do something like this with Equifax.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:48:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can someone explain the Cambridge Analytica and Facebook controversy to me?
I mean doesn’t our information get used a ton anyway? What’s the exact difference between this situation, and prior to this event, when people were still saying that Facebook spies on people?
theghostmachine · 2 points · Posted at 19:53:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It seems to me that there really isn't anything different about CA getting the data, and anyone else who gets it, other than apparently, CA didn't get the proper permission, or they used it for things they shouldn't have, or something.
Of course, that's overly simplified and probably inaccurate, but the gist of it is - yes, you're right, our data is given out all over the place, so it's not really anything that hasn't already been happening.
t1h9k5w2n9s8q1 · 1 points · Posted at 20:24:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Im just a noob but AFAIK the problem wasn't even what kind of data they got or bought but more that how they got that data was very unethical and not comparable to the way Obamas campaign got social media data in 2008. CA tricked people through installing and answering some random quiz that they claimed was for a scientific Cambridge study when it was actually for a political campaign and detailed psychological profiles were created of the contestants.
KingCraftsman · 1 points · Posted at 19:49:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Stupid clickbait articles. He deactivated it and will probably bring it back up in a day or 2.
GatorSK1N · 1 points · Posted at 19:51:44 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Isn’t Instagram technically Facebook also?
andyman171 · 1 points · Posted at 19:53:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What does a superhero do? They fight super villians
Gsanta1 · 1 points · Posted at 19:55:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Top 5 Successful Habits by Successfull People article tomorrow.
Tachyonzero · 1 points · Posted at 19:55:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can we do that on Equifax?
MightyMille · 1 points · Posted at 19:56:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I never really enjoyed Facebook back when I still had an account there. If I want to connect with family and share some pictures of my everyday life with them, I use a private album in Google Photos. Also much easier to use.
Rooferkev · 1 points · Posted at 19:56:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But he's still on twitter, Google and apple. Mmmm
jaber2 · 1 points · Posted at 19:56:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I need help, I am stuck at Elon worship and can't get off of it
peruytu · 1 points · Posted at 19:56:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm sooooo close to deleting it but I have to wait until after the midterm elections.
Uninteresting_guy · 1 points · Posted at 19:57:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is it! Time for ChumsGroup.com to finally take off.
tyzer24 · 1 points · Posted at 19:57:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The future/young generations don't use Facebook. It's not looking good for fb.
PostPostModernism · 1 points · Posted at 19:57:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I support the cause, but I'm genuinely a bit bummed about this as their facebook was my main method of keeping track and watching their launches. :(
greencheddar5 · 1 points · Posted at 19:58:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He seems like such a dope guy.
BLACKhawkLIVESMATTER · 1 points · Posted at 19:59:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sooo... do I need to dust off the ole digg account?
Lemmiwinks0141 · 1 points · Posted at 19:59:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well this ought to break Reddit...
IamZeebo · 1 points · Posted at 20:00:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If he were really the man he would give me $1m dollars 🌴👀🌴
jeremy0x4a · 1 points · Posted at 20:00:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The minute someone thought they had a better solution than IRC and mailing lists it all went off the rails.
SmokeyTheBear420 · 1 points · Posted at 20:03:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook owns Instagram. He won't delete it though because he's a grandstanding egomaniac
jakeyjakjakshabadoo · 1 points · Posted at 20:05:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He should have also deleted his Twitter to really make a statement.
Marchinon · 1 points · Posted at 20:06:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He should create his own platform. Also, I would totally watch a show with him in it named Keeping up with the Musks.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:06:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Why are people deleting Facebook all of the sudden?
cute_innocent_kitten · 1 points · Posted at 20:11:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Something to do with selling people's information
Writerama · 1 points · Posted at 20:06:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Using Twitter to talk about deleting Facebook is just pure irony.
locknic · 1 points · Posted at 20:06:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The bad thing I see is they get so many views on their live videos of the rocket launches from Facebook
jurais · 1 points · Posted at 20:06:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I bet he just deactivated and will turn them back on eventually :\
Gul2dna · 1 points · Posted at 20:07:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
#deleteit Join the movement.
AresPhobos · 1 points · Posted at 20:07:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've been saying it for years, people!
PornHub is the next big social media frontier!
raudssus · 1 points · Posted at 20:09:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Those poor guys who managed those pages....
mellowmonk · 1 points · Posted at 20:09:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who would have guessed that a greedy scumbag like Zuckerberg would have sold out his country to foreign interests. Greedy wealthy people have no country; countries are for people who work for a living.
rayfish75 · 1 points · Posted at 20:10:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
A modern day P.T. Barnum
GrandWizardZippy · 1 points · Posted at 20:10:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I have long not had a Facebook nor do I use WhatsApp however I can not say the same about Instagram.
I actually did not know they owned Instagram either, it seems one would be in a true pickle if they wanted to completely abstain from all Facebook subsidiaries.
With them buying all these companies up too makes it harder, They even own oculus.
so in order to even use VR and still manage to abstain you would have to choose either vive, windows mixed reality, or Pimax as your vr choice.
Edit: spelling/werds
amirtaghan · 1 points · Posted at 20:11:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He did it. He actually did it...theres no stopping him now.
J-FKENNDERY · 1 points · Posted at 20:11:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure I watched the latest rocket launch on Facebook. I'm not sure how it makes any sense for a company like that to delete their facebook page.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:11:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Deleted mine this week dont miss it at all
Outworldentity · 1 points · Posted at 20:12:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don't ever call out Elon Musk on anything... Unless you want him to destroy you at it
sev1nk · 1 points · Posted at 20:12:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If Tesla funded an alternative, I'd jump.
MrShones · 1 points · Posted at 20:13:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is it safe to assume that all the platforms down to your old Yahoo account are not selling your data though? I'd imagine Twitter being (as big as it is) is doing the same thing but I don't trust anything
eisbaerBorealis · 1 points · Posted at 20:14:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've been under a rock. What's made Facebook so horrible in the last week that we didn't know about before?
a_fking_feeder · 1 points · Posted at 20:17:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
data leaks
Patbach · 1 points · Posted at 20:14:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ok so I have NO IDEA what "whatsapp" is, but apparently it's worth NINETEEN BILLIONS.. wtf
supers0nic · 1 points · Posted at 03:32:51 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Messaging platform that people use.. maybe worth that much to FB because they can mine what people message each other with all the shit thats going around right now.
restless_oblivion · 1 points · Posted at 20:15:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
QUICK! post this on his church's subreddit.. /r/Futurology
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:16:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is a man who cannot say no to a challenge.
neil_chill · 1 points · Posted at 20:16:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ole Musky at it again
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:16:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
i have deactivated my fb before and i get bitched at by distant family members for shutting them out of my life...Deleting FB is not that easy for me. Deleting FB is not that easy for me. Kudos to Elon Musk
quietword · 1 points · Posted at 20:17:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I left Facebook in 2015 when it seemed dodgy... Also I didn't have anything interesting to say
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:17:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk is slowly becoming the alpha nerd.
Scizmz · 1 points · Posted at 20:19:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Do you want a new social media platform established by Elon Musk!?!?!! Cause this is how you get a new social media platform from Elon Musk!
dundraary · 1 points · Posted at 20:19:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yine her yerdeyiz amk
Aaroncls · 1 points · Posted at 20:21:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
so, this is what living in a trend based society is like.
LilBoozy · 1 points · Posted at 20:21:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I deleted my Facebook a year ago. Guess I was just ahead of the times.
abcde123edcba · 1 points · Posted at 20:22:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
How the duck is this news?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:25:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This just in: Guy reddit worships does something they like. More at 11
danki2000 · 1 points · Posted at 20:26:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Good time to BUY Facebook stock. If hits $150, im buying .
WesternCanadian · 1 points · Posted at 20:26:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Its like Zuckerberg is a villian and Elon is the superhero needed to defeat him.
Systemsmodel · 1 points · Posted at 20:27:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So it’s ok for obama to datamine but when trump does it’s eeeeeeeevil
zerotheliger · 3 points · Posted at 20:29:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Whataboutism at its finest. Big differece he didnt do it illegally and also just because someone else did it doesnt mean you should act like a damn cry baby and not try to fix others from doing it
Systemsmodel · 1 points · Posted at 20:31:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Neither did Cambridge analytics. I’m pointing out your stupid hypocrisy. Seriously, they both did the same thing, and no one freaked over obama doing it, in fact Facebook let them in and met with them after the election over it
zerotheliger · 0 points · Posted at 20:58:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Again you said one thing and went right back to it. I dint give a crap who did it fix it from happening in the future jesus....
Systemsmodel · 1 points · Posted at 21:00:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It’s just data mining , that’s what Facebook sells, and Reddit
SiegeDad · 1 points · Posted at 20:29:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can we get elon musk to help figure out the water crisis in flint?
estoscojones · 1 points · Posted at 20:29:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wonder what this backlash on Facebook will do to their dev frameworks like React.
TheKharmeleon · 1 points · Posted at 20:31:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Cool. I’m deleting mine in a week or two. Have to go through and delete everything and make sure I have everyone’s contact info.
pandoras_box101 · 1 points · Posted at 20:31:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Somebody was fired from tesla and spacex that evening.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:32:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Gotchya, no, not really. If let go through no fault of the employee they will be eligible for unemployment benefits. Better companies do provide a severance of some sort though. Mine does for all level of employees if down sizing a department or whatever.
FullMetalBitch · 1 points · Posted at 20:33:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Uses twitter instead, which is basically the same.
Props to twitter marketing team or whomever is responsible.
elit3powars · 1 points · Posted at 21:19:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter cater to large accounts a lot more
liztereen · 1 points · Posted at 20:34:36 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
From a Twitter Challenge..that's not what I read today, it had nothing to do with a challenge, and it was millions of users.
KrisG1887 · 1 points · Posted at 20:37:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
We should collectively bring back the original Facebook, MySpace!
djamp42 · 1 points · Posted at 20:45:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nope Friendster.
recklessrider · 1 points · Posted at 20:38:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I hate how every fucking article nowadays is so snarky and opinionated. What happened to just reporting the facts so I can form my own opinion? It feels insulting as a reader.
ImissCoreyandTrevor · 1 points · Posted at 20:38:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
But how though?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:39:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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unclebillscamping · 1 points · Posted at 20:40:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Does this mean myspace is a thing again?
drprivate · 1 points · Posted at 20:41:40 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I love Elon musk more
The world is a much better place without Facebook and Twitter
FTC_Publik · 1 points · Posted at 20:44:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Now delete your Twitter!
C'mon Elon, do it!
Delete your website next!
What are you, chicken?
Axumata · 1 points · Posted at 20:45:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Accounts deleted: 0
Accounts deleted: At least 2.
Some random Musk fan >>> HRC
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:47:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I mean we’re all Team Musk, right?
frogsbollocks · 1 points · Posted at 20:47:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Maybe this sheds some light on this interview https://www.theverge.com/2016/6/2/11837566/elon-musk-one-ai-company-that-worries-me
Ironicalogical · 1 points · Posted at 20:48:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I also did not know they had FB accounts.
Gunloc · 1 points · Posted at 20:48:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
forgive me, I'm just out here doing my daily clout-ups.
PanchoPanoch · 1 points · Posted at 20:50:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Coming soon: TeslaSpaceBook
Awayfone · 1 points · Posted at 20:50:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
yet he didn't delete his twitter too. More importantly didn't delete his Instagram (owned by facebook)
melto32 · 1 points · Posted at 20:51:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
As long as he stays on instagram I don’t care.
norpiano · 1 points · Posted at 20:51:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I also do not know what Facebook is. Sounds like a crappy Multi level marketing pyramid scheme
book_queen88 · 1 points · Posted at 20:53:28 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebbok- where all my friends post pics of their kids. It's all I ever see.
Kantz_ · 1 points · Posted at 20:54:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
“Elon Musk has an intern delete the company’s Facebook pages after twitter challenge”
FTFY
thislittlewiggy · 1 points · Posted at 20:57:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Space Daddy does the great brave thing again!
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:04:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I would like to say that Tesla wasn't created by social media and they can't be controlled by it or taken down by it; but that's the exact opposite of the truth.
garrypig · 1 points · Posted at 21:04:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He’s only doing what we all wish we had the courage to do
red_flute · 2 points · Posted at 21:10:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It just makes it easier for me to share pictures, rather than email.
garrypig · 1 points · Posted at 21:23:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I feel the same way. I need to export my account and send it all to some online storage place
xeonsteel · 1 points · Posted at 21:05:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I've been wanting to get rid of mine for some time. This time I actually deleted it.
nickowens65 · 1 points · Posted at 21:06:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I honestly find all this kind of funny, everyone should have known Facebook was doing this. When my data management professor was talking about this situation the other day he made the great point that “if a company isn’t trying to sell you a product, that means you are the product”. Us and our data is Facebook’s business, not the platform itself
EyeOfNeutron · 1 points · Posted at 21:22:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I quit FB in 2010, the writing on the wall was very clear, to me at least. I do have a Twitter but only lurk and never post. I think Reddit is following the path. They know every sub, post, upvote, down vote, saves and comments relating to your user name and email, the time, and the ip addresses when and where you use Reddit. They even admitted that they know everything about their users. Question is are they selling our data for cash with associated emails. Probably. Now what?
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ViciousMind · 1 points · Posted at 21:07:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Take down Instagram! Just do it!
ekobres · 1 points · Posted at 21:10:10 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That’s some pretty major shade.
Well Zuck, that’s what you get for driving an Acura?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:14:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is there a social network similar to Facebook but Europe based? Europe has much better privacy laws.
crapusername47 · 1 points · Posted at 21:18:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There’s irony in him being challenged on Twitter of all places to do this.
They’re every bit as bad as Facebook, they’re just hiding behind the fact that Facebook are a bigger target.
richpinn · 1 points · Posted at 21:18:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Zzzzzzzz such bigger issues in the world. Wish people didn’t care if some rich guy deleted a Facebook page. It’s literally not important and doesn’t alter anything.
MrObject · 1 points · Posted at 21:23:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Herd mentality. It doesn't matter if smart people think something is wrong, if one rich guy in a long tie and a baseball hat says something stupid then the herd will just follow them into the abyss.
We need a smart, rich and popular guy to tell the herd what to do or they'll continue acting like morons.
masszealots · 1 points · Posted at 21:20:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Has Twitter ever done bad?
Neewer92 · 1 points · Posted at 21:21:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He is the man. I wish I could delete my Facebook as easy as he does lol
espressoandprayer · 1 points · Posted at 21:28:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
A pariah among my generation for having eschewed Facebook, now Elon Musk's pathfinder! Vindication vastly underrated.
henrikose · 1 points · Posted at 21:38:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
The only think that is worse* than companies on facebook, is companies that have their information only on facebook.
Just so you all now, I basically refuse to deal with the later category.
*) In the context company information. I do think there are worse shit in irl, like cancer and tsunamis.
juken7 · 1 points · Posted at 21:40:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He's just bandwagon jumping on the delete Facebook train.
EliSmurfy · 1 points · Posted at 21:42:01 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don’t wanna be that guy, but you could switch over to a different app like Vero that charges a membership fee rather than selling data to advertisers. Facebook and Instagram aren’t the end all be all.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:44:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Wait what's the reason behind deleting facebook? I mean I personally hate it but?
FormalChicken · 1 points · Posted at 21:47:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Damn. At least the MySpace to Facebook migration was gradual but certain and predictable. This is a floodgate approach.
normandantzig · 1 points · Posted at 21:48:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This seems like as good a place as any to ask. Does anyone have a solid tutorial on removing preinstalled Facebook app on phones (S6 in my case)? Best I can do is disable at present. Hook me up Musk
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:49:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook is bad and Google is good.
Is that how this current argument is playing out?
HerLegz · 1 points · Posted at 21:53:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Good riddance. Time to have properly officially verified accounts and areas designated for anon/mixed/verified.
Ivantheasshole · 1 points · Posted at 22:06:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Man this is cold. Didn’t a Facebook satellite blow up on a Spacex vehicle prior to launch?
santacfan · 2 points · Posted at 22:13:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It wasn’t a Facebook satellite. It was a satellite that Facebook was going to rent time on along with other companies. The satellite was owned by spacecom.
Ivantheasshole · 1 points · Posted at 22:47:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ah, thank you for clarifying... still quite the burn for FB.
Planeis · 1 points · Posted at 22:13:42 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
That’s cool and all. Not sure either one was necessary
But let’s be clear. Twitter does the same thing
guineapig_69 · 1 points · Posted at 22:13:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Ok so what's got me confused is, if I'm not supposed to use Facebook then what media should I use? I kinda use Twitter but basically everyone I know in my family uses Facebook to talk to each other. Some people use email. I don't like using email. So what then?
JBlackwoodSays · 2 points · Posted at 22:34:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Text message or phone call?
Ransack_Girl · 1 points · Posted at 22:15:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
peer pressure at it's best?
Retb14 · 1 points · Posted at 23:14:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not really. The space X and Tesla paged were fakes made by some random people.
Kronos_PRIME · 1 points · Posted at 22:25:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
“I’m famous!” He was heard saying as he cleared off his desk...
His exit interview went like this:
“We like to achieve the impossible here. You might want to set your sights a little lower and maybe shoot for a social media presence with a little less suck.”
altviewdelete · 1 points · Posted at 22:33:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's like being on MySpace all over again when Facebook came out.
stringerbbell · 1 points · Posted at 22:37:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Except MySpace didn't do anything unethical
TheBaratheon · 1 points · Posted at 22:35:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I hate Facebook the only reason I still have it is because I'm a class office and the rest of the officers refuse to use anything but Facebook to communicate. Smh
RampantShovel · 1 points · Posted at 22:44:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is what counts news is now?
whiskeytab · 1 points · Posted at 23:01:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
maybe he'll man up and delete that fucking Kimball Musk "I'm giving away my Tesla 3" fucking instagram ad that seems to be every 10th god damn post in my feed
HariettPotter · 1 points · Posted at 23:03:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Was Facebook even useful for Tesla and SpaceX in the first place?
Retb14 · 1 points · Posted at 23:12:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
No. They never officially had one. It was just someone that made them.
Jwhitx · 1 points · Posted at 23:24:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So Vero it is then, mates?!
g2g079 · 1 points · Posted at 23:28:14 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Isn't it pretty likely CA also scraped Twitter's data as well? I could totally see Twitter selling all user data through a private API.
Jaystings · 1 points · Posted at 23:50:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
If anyone asks if there's anything that Jimmy Neutron esque guy doesn't know: we Sheens will be there.
Voidward · 1 points · Posted at 23:55:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He appears to indeed be the man. I never had doubts personally.
BucketOfNoseClams · 1 points · Posted at 23:57:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My favorite billionaire
mikejones72 · 1 points · Posted at 00:20:06 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hopefully the stock market doesn't freak and crash on Monday.
tnorcal · 1 points · Posted at 00:21:34 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah except you can reactivate it. I know people who keep reactivating and deactivating facebook.
RobKhonsu · 1 points · Posted at 00:25:03 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I guess nobody cares about their Boring Company.
jhmblvd · 1 points · Posted at 00:44:29 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm a bit tired of FB and its insistence on notification about everything. Have you tried turning notifications off? Its like navigating a puzzle. Simply nuts. I also think the idea that FB, Google, and Twitter need to protect me from evil ICOs while letting Crap from Fox, or ads about Russian women who want me to fill up my pages is just silly. I don't need corporate babysitters.
mt2oo8 · 1 points · Posted at 00:55:23 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
So how many billions did this do to Facebook’s value?
robnox · 1 points · Posted at 00:58:29 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I deleted my Facebook yesterday (not that I used it much anyway).
IDontBeleiveImOnFIre · 1 points · Posted at 01:07:48 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon back at it again with the dankness
Kseactual · 1 points · Posted at 01:15:02 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think I fell in love with with this man... Man card maintained.
AintNoRoleModel · 1 points · Posted at 01:19:00 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Copy cat....I deleted my Facebook account two years ago.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:20:41 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
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VitalNormal · 1 points · Posted at 01:29:24 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
That place was hacked b4 and a bunch of members were revealed
QuestionTimeMR · 1 points · Posted at 01:28:40 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I like how blasé he is about it. “Delete Facebook? Sure why not?”
maxdisk7 · 1 points · Posted at 01:30:59 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let twitter live! Fck Facebook.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:33:47 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Don't
stealspy. The government hates competitionmoscowrules · 1 points · Posted at 02:23:43 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is deactivating your FB the same thing as deleting it?
stevebirwin357 · 1 points · Posted at 02:24:08 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I am challenged. Truly. I am 52 years old. And I am old. OLD. I was born in 1966 in Dublin Ireland. I have always been interested in how things work. Guess it's because I am dyslexic. Computers were these unfathomable machines that took Professors to utilise and programme. A calling, if You will. I was truly in awe of these huge IBM machines on The Six Million Dollar Man that could do so much. I was also a little afraid. A lot afraid. So, out of pure fear in 1998 I bought my 1st pc. Hadn't a clue. The man (GOD bless Him) who sold it to me had less knowledge than I did. He was a salesman, not a technician. In 2015 I made a decision to leave my job in a semi-state body and become a computer technician. (Not my 1st technical position). I have completed my MTA (Microsoft Technical associate). Looking forward to my COMPTIA next. LIVE YOUR LIVES BITCHES.
blueicedome · 1 points · Posted at 02:24:47 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't get it why do they want to destroy facebook?
T3daSikness · 1 points · Posted at 02:24:47 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can someone explain why Musk being "The Man" has anything to do with him deleting facebook?
mouseno4 · 1 points · Posted at 02:35:24 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don’t know what prompted this. But I have faith that Musk knows what he is doing.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:45:36 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk took responsibility for ruining Facebook's satellite? I can't stand when people say "that's what insurance is for".
TheSyntaxEra · 1 points · Posted at 02:49:25 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I love this man... Not in a gay way (not that there is anything wrong with that).
bovas1991 · 1 points · Posted at 03:05:40 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
We're not sure of your gender anyway
TheSyntaxEra · 2 points · Posted at 03:18:45 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It was just a chance to use a classic Seinfeld bit.. I try to never miss them.
captaincapn · 1 points · Posted at 06:22:43 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hello Tidal, my old friend
ChickenAndRiceIsNice · 1 points · Posted at 07:06:06 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
What if in 2 years Facebook is nothing but a wasteland of Minions memes and buzzfeed quizzes... man I would laugh so hard.
Brett_Hoover_PhD · 4 points · Posted at 10:38:07 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
That was at least 2 years ago as far as I can tell.
Yuboka · 1 points · Posted at 09:40:03 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
And so the exodus of Facebook begins!
RadeZayben · 1 points · Posted at 12:32:00 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
you're talking about the muskrat here, friend. No need to preserve
ballshazzer · 1 points · Posted at 13:25:55 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's time to move in to blockchain based systems anyway
Sirus13 · 1 points · Posted at 14:16:05 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Who gives a fuck? Just keep shooting shit up into space, bruh.
arithal · 1 points · Posted at 14:34:16 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon musk is the hero we need, not the one we deserve.
advisorsthathavewar · 1 points · Posted at 17:00:39 on March 27, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon is a goddamn legend
brahsumatra · 1 points · Posted at 13:33:57 on May 30, 2018 · (Permalink)
The only thing Twitter is good for is keeping track of your interests like Space-X.
make_fascists_afraid · -18 points · Posted at 18:12:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/EnoughMuskSpam
This is just another one of his publicity stunts. The pages will be back up shortly after the news cycle moves on from the facebook "scandal."
Would be nice if he actually dedicated his energy toward delivering on the the absurd promises he makes. Then again, those are publicity stunts too. Settling Mars by 2020? pfffft.
BeelTheFern420 · 17 points · Posted at 18:51:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You get that Musky dick back in your mouth before the other redditors see you.
FlakF · -4 points · Posted at 19:30:27 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Y-yessir! gulp
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[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 09:27:45 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Of course, the ones disagreeing with the more massive approval are the ones circlejerking ?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 09:36:35 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 09:41:43 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because fan clubs are annoying when they spill everywhere. Including in news... how is that article of any informative relevance ?
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[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 09:52:20 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
No it doesn’t, but this sub is supposed to be about a topic, which is news, this is just tabloïd bullshit, and gratuitous PR.
Bactine · 1 points · Posted at 17:30:06 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Eh, to me it seems split between
Trump can do no right
And
Trump can do no wrong
It just matters on whichever political tribe that poster belongs to.
jloy88 · 2 points · Posted at 18:40:20 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My parents own something like 3500 shares of Facebook. They've lost nearly $85000 in stock value since this shit came to light.
FijiTearz · 3 points · Posted at 18:51:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Are they planning to get rid of it soon or are they hoping it'll bounce back up in value?
jloy88 · 3 points · Posted at 19:02:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
My mom is in full HODL mode, she thinks the furor will die down and the numbers will speak for themselves eventually.
25Anon25 · 2 points · Posted at 03:03:08 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Which is probably smart. People generally have very short attention span when it comes to this shit. Give it a few weeks and no one will be talking about this shit.
evenios · 0 points · Posted at 17:49:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
yay deletefacebook for the win!
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:58:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Gotta keep Instagram though
even though its the same company :\
Billfazzio · 1 points · Posted at 19:03:17 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I just can't like this guy enough.
vivek31 · 1 points · Posted at 19:05:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I just can't like this guy at all.
showmeurboobsplznthx · 1 points · Posted at 19:04:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Great. Twitter use goes up further funding their Saudi majority owner so he can kill children in Yemen.
shadowofashadow · 1 points · Posted at 19:11:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You're crazy if you think twitter hasn't been doing similar stuff with your data.
And I haven't seen anyone mention the fact that it's the owner of a competing platform that is pushing this so hard? Obviously Whatsapp wants you to delete facebook...
seejordan3 · 1 points · Posted at 20:07:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Pro tip: want to stay up to date with Tesla/SpaceX news? They've both got newsletters. Here's Tesla's sign up page, and Space X. I just signed up.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 20:22:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm subscribing to mailing lists again, something I haven't done in a decade. Being smart about it though, using throwaway freebie addresses that I don't care about and that have a low information footprint. Rant-off: Thanks for these additional lists!
seejordan3 · 1 points · Posted at 21:55:29 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm old, and hate FB and TW. So. Best for me is newsletters.
Thomjones · 1 points · Posted at 22:01:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is getting ridiculous. It's like Cambridge got away with no consequences. When Target got thousands of customers data stolen from them, the ceo of target wasn't called to testify in congress. People weren't having target boycotts. I think. This was basically a con job, but instead of going after the con man we're going after other people. Like of he tricked people disguised as a cop, people are suing the police station.
Chicano_Ducky · 3 points · Posted at 22:31:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook was complicit in letting foreign propaganda on their service. Zuckerberg is as guilty as everyone else, if not more so.
They sold data and services to a political group who wanted to change the outcome of the 2016 election AND Brexit.
Facebook got off scott free to not get immediately shut down, and Zuck arrested for treason.
Thomjones · 0 points · Posted at 22:53:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
They were not complicit in letting foreign propaganda on their website. They also did not sell Data to a political group. A Cambridge professor was paid by a republican douche to gather data on fb users. Users gave permission for an app to analyze their profiles, under the guise of answering a survey for a couple bucks. He then sold or gave the information to Cambridge Analytics (not a political group), which was in violation of fb policy, and they used it to advise the trump campaign. When fb found out they ordered the data destroyed. They found out days ago that the company may have not deleted it. Read an article some time.
Chicano_Ducky · 1 points · Posted at 22:58:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Mueller has been granted his warrant on Facebook.
Cambridge Analytica is a shell company. Their name is a misnomer. They also had very clear blueprints to get trump elected.
In fact, they were behind Trump's strategy and rhetoric
They are a right wing political group outside America who was found to be influencing elections ON VIDEO by their own director.
They are a political group.
Thomjones · 1 points · Posted at 23:49:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
To me, a political consulting firm that do research and analyze behavior for politics, and a political group are different. Like a superpac would be a group to me. I'm just saying that was the misunderstanding when I said they're not a political group but yes they do work supporting the right wing.
SonyXboxNintendo11 · 1 points · Posted at 17:59:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter, eh?
DesignGhost · 1 points · Posted at 18:50:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I like how every one is going after Facebook and ignoring other platforms like twitter and reddit. Take your blinders off people, every site is doing this, especially reddit. Remember the video showing how easy it was to buy your way to the frontpage?
Random_Fandom · 1 points · Posted at 22:34:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yes, and by focusing on only one site (like the recent news circuit about fb), it obscures the larger message that more people need to know: Every invasive practice we can imagine happens with every major site & app in existence.
We should be spreading more information about what we're really agreeing to by clicking '[agree/install/yes]'...
IamNICE124 · 1 points · Posted at 19:06:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Okay, how about Twitter? The other horrible fucking social media platform? Plan on deleting this, too?
vivek31 · 1 points · Posted at 19:06:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Twitter is just as bad as Facebook.
StrngBrew · 1 points · Posted at 19:12:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's kind of ironic to do this on Twitter, an almost in-arguably more toxic force than Facebook.
Although I guess it has a bit less of your personal data?
Insomniacrobat · 1 points · Posted at 19:22:54 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let's bring back Myspace! It was way cooler, and didn't get involved in the social Marxist PC culture.
Political correctness is just fascism masquerading as good manners.
Nurizeko · 1 points · Posted at 19:33:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
All the hysterics aside, I use Facebook and until everyone magically switches over to another social media site that is basically Facebook, I'm staying there.
Guess I won't be keeping up with Tesla & SpaceX on Facebook! :I
chugonthis · 1 points · Posted at 19:36:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Very lame, none of these people cared when Obama's campaign built an app to gather data, only the right can be wrong.
thehuntedfew · 1 points · Posted at 19:38:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
please have bought myspace, please would be great, time we got rid of facebook
formerfatboys · 1 points · Posted at 19:40:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You know what's worse than Facebook and has been for years? Twitter.
spiderobert · 1 points · Posted at 19:55:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well I challenge him to give me a new Tesla. He won't do it! Chicken!
Haiirokage · 1 points · Posted at 20:02:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't really get why everyone are trying to connect the cambridge analytica disaster with trump
SteveOnCape · 1 points · Posted at 20:13:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook lost its relevancy all due to Greed. I am seriously considered putting together a go fund me page to create a social media site that is funded by donations
dshicistan · 1 points · Posted at 20:38:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What is the next best alternative to Facebook?
Kn0wFriends · 1 points · Posted at 20:41:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Having a life... Reddit :(
Kasanova1226 · 1 points · Posted at 20:47:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Nothing, everything is becoming politicized, and infringing on our rights.
unimportant96 · 1 points · Posted at 21:00:02 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Petulant article. The guy sent a fucking car to space, does more than NASA has done recently and they still have the guts to say if he is 'the man' he has to delete his Instagram too.
dylphil · 1 points · Posted at 22:37:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I know very few people who still regularly post on Facebook. But all y’all still probably still use Instagram. Guess who owns that?
Battyboyrider · 1 points · Posted at 22:41:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fuck facebook. Thing is evil since the day it came out. So many problems cause of it in my life. Nothing good ever came out of it from me. I knew the day it was released and all my friends got it would be trouble.
Laimis666 · 1 points · Posted at 23:30:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Omfg I love this guy. He will do anything. Sky is the limi...... Wait nvm...
Albythere · 1 points · Posted at 23:54:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk is a marketing genius. This will get him more exposure than having those shitty pages anyway.
philiac · 1 points · Posted at 01:22:39 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
he does whatever for the fame
SocialContractFury · 1 points · Posted at 07:55:41 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Boy, isn't he just sticking it to the man!
sgunes · 1 points · Posted at 19:10:17 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
One more reason to buy a Tesla next time.
SirButcher · -8 points · Posted at 17:33:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Fantastic, there goes my way to easily get their updates :\
-dank-matter- · 8 points · Posted at 18:13:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
/r/spacex /r/teslamotors
PVP_playerPro · 5 points · Posted at 18:42:07 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
...he says, while posting on a huge news site with communities dedicated to Elons businesses
missedthecue · -4 points · Posted at 18:19:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
i know right? All those pages did was raise awareness and keep fans informed. dumb move with nothing but PR gain for Musk.
Then again, PR is just about the only thing Musk is good at.
Eco_RI · 7 points · Posted at 19:17:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah, he actually sucks. His stance on unions...hoo boy.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 09:29:42 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wonder why he said this bs about working 100h a week..?
Eco_RI · 1 points · Posted at 16:11:29 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because he’s a manic libertarian egoist.
darkvstar · -22 points · Posted at 16:58:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
this is stupid. Sure, stop using Facebook as a coffee-clatch with your friends and use it for what it is good for: business sites, specialized interest group support, etc
encogneeto · 8 points · Posted at 17:17:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Is it though?
darkvstar · -7 points · Posted at 17:21:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Besides my author's page, I am an active member of three different scifi writing groups. the discussions range from the constructive, the informative, and the fun.
cuttingimplements · 4 points · Posted at 18:39:56 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
There are online forums for every single topic you can think of with tons of members who routinely contribute quality content. Fb is not doing anything new. Just makes it easier for the lazy and uninformed.
darkvstar · 1 points · Posted at 19:14:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
that's me. a Reddit geek
Im-a-Vagitarian · 3 points · Posted at 18:49:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Alright nerd
encogneeto · 4 points · Posted at 17:29:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Have you had to pay a bribe to Facebook to get access to your fans yet?
darkvstar · 1 points · Posted at 18:17:09 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I use Goodreads and Amazon.com for that. The facebook page is just a presence on-line where I post the latest book events
Seeeab · 10 points · Posted at 17:30:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I don't need those things either
😉👌
darkvstar · -1 points · Posted at 18:18:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
the groups I belong to are sorta like Reddit except without the trolls and gadflies.
RadioRoscoe · 4 points · Posted at 21:59:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You forgot the ass hats who down vote your innocent opinions.
the-candyman-Cain · 3 points · Posted at 19:39:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook is cancer. The end.
darkvstar · 0 points · Posted at 20:19:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
even cancer has its uses. your life view should not be so rigid
dysentarygary513 · 0 points · Posted at 18:50:18 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
i just did now too. thanks elon.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 18:59:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Hes keeping his Instagram though.
dysentarygary513 · -1 points · Posted at 19:29:52 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
damn well that’s facebook owned. I think reddit is hunting down anti facebook comments and downvoting them to 0. Honestly they keep this up and no matter how much people like the platform people will keep creating similar ones until the right timing catches up to them and there’s an incident that causes a mass revolt. Or maybe not.
illusionofpower · -3 points · Posted at 18:22:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’ve never had a MySpace, Facebook,Twitter, Snapchat, or Instagram account.
Reddit is all I need to stay in the loop.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 18:44:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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patthickwong · 3 points · Posted at 19:09:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah as long as all your friends in family live in the same city...
FB has been instrumental in helping my mom connect with friends and family all over the world.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 19:12:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
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Nurizeko · -2 points · Posted at 19:47:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yup, the hysterical folk are missing that crucial point. My need to a reliable single place to keep in touch with contacts trumps the prospect of some third party knowing I posted a photo of my pet recently.
We live in an age where people move frequently, change phones, jobs, etc and so forth frequently. It's not a case of living in the same town on the same street in the same house from cradle to grave.
I remember a time before the internet & Facebook were real going concerns and I can tell you, if you lost contact with someone, that was it. They were gone from your life probably never to be seen again unless someone was really intent on finding you again (like private detective obsessive) or you just got lucky and bumped into each other.
If the Forth Reich rises and takes over FB to track down thought-offenders than I'll probably burn down my social-media presence and go live off the grid or something, until then I'll risk the potential targeted advertising getting through my ad-blocks for the convenience of keeping tabs on people I want to maintain contact with.
BlueOak777 · -1 points · Posted at 19:37:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
all of those suck, so congrats.
but you're stuck in the reddit bubble, which also sucks.
this constant circlejerk that is reddit can make you think that's all there is.
Arinde · 0 points · Posted at 21:41:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
And as soon as the controversy blows over he has Facebook reactivate the accounts as if nothing happened.
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 20:19:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Let's be real Fake X was getting called out. I saw daily messages exposing Elon's nonsense. Perfect time to leave. By the way, 1950's book written by NAZI/NASA rocket scientist Wernher von Braun predicts a man named Elon would lead mankind to Mars. Reality is insane and honestly manipulated for the masses.
Dmart56 · -1 points · Posted at 20:21:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Realest comment I’ve seen in a while
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 21:41:33 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Thanks Dmart
Switchroo · -1 points · Posted at 04:03:30 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Re sign up for Facebook if you're REAL man.
FinnishEvilBot · -1 points · Posted at 04:03:32 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon actually SAVING money, instead of burning it like wildfire in Australia! Wow!
HowDoMirrorsTaste · 0 points · Posted at 19:11:06 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What a hero of this generation. Lets make him president reddit xD
DJBell1986 · 1 points · Posted at 19:58:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He can’t be president. He was born in South Africa.
Krakengreyjoy · 0 points · Posted at 19:27:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Biiiiiiiiig Elon Musk. I mean, this guy. Do something. Seriously. What's he ever done? Stop telling me about how you’re going to change the world and just change the world already.
Musk.
Please.
SteamandDream · 0 points · Posted at 19:29:03 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk
Schwarzenegger
2020
I can dream right?
PM-ME-YOUR-CONCERN · 0 points · Posted at 19:41:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yet no one says a word about Elon and his constant corporate welfare...just saying.
Whyevenbotherbeing · 0 points · Posted at 19:41:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
People are thinking Oprah should run for office yet this fucking guy has it within himself to not only win that office but actually do a great job too.
Mitt102486 · 0 points · Posted at 19:46:00 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well my comment may be forever lost, but the good news is, at least he finally saw the pages. Not quite sure how he had permission to delete them though.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:46:53 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I disliked him for a while as someone who overhyped futuristic gimmicks or concepts for inflation to his planned investments, but now.....I LOEV HIM!
thingkr · 0 points · Posted at 19:47:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Everyone leave this comment section
cubs223425 · 0 points · Posted at 19:48:16 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I find it funny that they're using Twitter to rage about privacy issues on Facebook...
mojojojo213 · 0 points · Posted at 19:48:51 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I think I heard somewhere that social media, media, and news runs in a cycle. That eventually social media will become too popular and run itself into the ground and traditional media will spurt back to life. However, in this case, it seems that social media is just plain old disappearing. Kinda unnerving given the recently huge decline in traditional media. There are definitely some private companies coming along to disrupt the news market but nothing substantially bipartisan or anything like that. Like on YouTube, I really enjoy Philip DeFranco but at times his biases sway what he says to where it gets a bit annoying. Noting is ever gonna stop biases from getting in the way but it bugs me. I'm really interested to see how the future deals with spreading information.
throwaway2600god · 1 points · Posted at 19:54:55 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
YouTube is fucking themselves just as bad as Facebook.
In 6 months one of the two won't be online Anymore.
Facebook will probably go first.
Then YouTube will keep pulling shit on the creators and a mass exodus to pornhub. Will be the end of YouTube.
That's right pornhub is going to kill YouTube .
A smut website has the largest video sharing website by the balls.
And if porn hub dosent step up??
You ever see how many streaming websites there are for illegal video?? You can watch any TV show or movie if you know where to stream it.
Anyone of those websites could step up and be the next YouTube.
I need to pull my channel down and download my videos.
All go upload mr42ndstblvd to pornhub
resultsmayvary0 · 1 points · Posted at 20:48:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Both sites will be online in 6 months, it would be almost impossible for them to close servers for either in less than a year. You're right long-term about PornHub though, this is going to be interesting to see to say the least.
throwaway2600god · 1 points · Posted at 21:01:04 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well I figure since I just deleted Facebook permanently and there are aleast millions jumping on that band wagon it's not long before the only people still there are just celebrity brands or public figures.
So Facebook is probably going to die just by going broke because nobody gets on. If they make it another year I'd be surprised.
YouTube though there days are numbered. They recently attacked small content creators like me "mr42ndstblvd" And then they have made rules about the gun crowd.
There really pissing on the people right now.
Without content creators they have nothing.
Would you get on YouTube if it was nothing but let's plays and conspiracy theory videos??
Because when real creators leave who make actual videos and not just click bait . That's what you have left.
Now I know that me leaving YouTube dosent amount to Anything my videos suck.
But im more than happy to leave and be apart of YouTube's demise.
There pissing off bigger people than me and those big creators have alot of pull with there viewers.
Imagine a channel thT has a million subs and regularly get 500k views says there dropping YouTube. There subs and watchers are going to follow them.
How do you think YouTube is going to be affected by loosing one creator who pulls that much attention.
Now that creator tells one and o e more tells 200 and eventually we are fucking YouTube in the ass and bending them over where it hurts.
That's not Even thinking about all the small creators who will leave in mass.
YouTube is on bided time
shelby_bouti · 0 points · Posted at 19:49:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Sooooo he’s CEO of 4 separate companies. Very interesting
1Glitch0 · 0 points · Posted at 19:53:46 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's for publicity. He'll be back within 3 months.
His entire cash flow is based on dummies thinking he's the next great mind. Grifter.
sublimeone · -1 points · Posted at 20:03:08 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Oh yeah, his numerous successful business ventures don't have anything to do with his success.
1Glitch0 · 0 points · Posted at 20:04:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
"His successful grifts prove he's not a grifter!"
sublimeone · -1 points · Posted at 20:07:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
You are a real moron if you believe the shit flowing from your mind, through your keyboard.
Noctroglyph · 0 points · Posted at 20:08:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I wish he’d delete the Model X that caught fire on the 101 this morning.
Nothing like a battery fire for the morning Bay Area commute!
AnonNoDox · 0 points · Posted at 20:22:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Idiot. Letting personal matters get in the way of easily attainable business best practice
ymom2 · 0 points · Posted at 21:09:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Discord is a superior Facebook IMO
FERALCATWHISPERER · 0 points · Posted at 21:21:05 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This just in....Elon Musk ate a Turkey sandwich with mustard and a Capri Sun today...More details to come...
masteryod · 0 points · Posted at 21:21:45 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Alrighty then, so after a decade of the whole "social media" bullshit everywhere in a matter of weeks or even days Facebook became so uncool it's actively being attacked?
Looks like someone want's to fuck with Zuckerberg's thirst for (political) power. Also I don't know how but I suspect it's related with Putin-Trump Corporation.
Wolpertinger · 1 points · Posted at 21:27:57 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
For once, I don't care if it is Trump, Putin, or fuckin Reptilians, if it hurts Facebook I am all for it.
probablyawning · 0 points · Posted at 21:22:39 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can someone please fill me in? I'm out or loop, why would deleting Facebook be a thing?
Retb14 · 1 points · Posted at 21:29:43 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I’m not sure about why deleting Facebook pages is a thing now. (Probably because of the massive data leak or something.) but tesla and spaceX never had an official Facebook page so musk had them removed.
theRedlightt · 0 points · Posted at 21:29:24 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
False title, He has only HIDDEN them not DELETED. Learn the difference kids
Thangleby_Slapdiback · 0 points · Posted at 21:47:48 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Really? That's their entire business model.
You think that any other major website is different? When the product is free you are the product.
BriefIntelligence · 0 points · Posted at 22:42:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Elon Musk should delete his Instagram too
tcolecruz · 0 points · Posted at 23:00:26 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
i mean, he is the man
scottieducati · 0 points · Posted at 23:02:50 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Somewhat ironic since Twitter isn't any better and enables Trump.
AFuckYou · 0 points · Posted at 23:10:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk is a media mad man. He is like the opposite of trump.
SsgtRawDawger · 0 points · Posted at 23:13:13 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Plot twist. Elon is getting ready to launch his own social media platform.
CarUse · 0 points · Posted at 01:28:35 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
The one's he didn't even know he had? Wow what a groundbreaking move, give the guy a Nobel prize.
_ADM_ · 0 points · Posted at 01:55:38 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
I love that man. Class act.
maxdisk7 · 0 points · Posted at 03:19:37 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
That’s cool. He won’t delete twitter account!
HOLYROLY · -9 points · Posted at 17:51:22 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
So these days all you have to got to do is put Musk in the title and the masses will love it, eh? getting tired of this really fast people, stop hyping everything he does, but I guess thats just an american way to live.
EthanSucc · 1 points · Posted at 19:38:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He’s just a hilarious man
SquatchButter · -19 points · Posted at 17:18:35 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
By deleting Facebook page he effectively ended a few peoples jobs
Evil_Nick_Saban · 9 points · Posted at 17:24:11 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Not true at all. There's more than one platform, and the marketing staff in charge of Facebook would almost certainly be managing the Twitter/Instagram/etc accounts/pages.
Or they have outside agencies managing the Facebook accounts, which simply makes an agency's workload even easier as there's less on their plate and they're paid on a monthly retainer.
JesseBricks · 1 points · Posted at 17:23:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Cambridge Analytica were in trouble anyway ... oh.
Nomorelie5 · -2 points · Posted at 18:52:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Someone respond: He is the man. Now fuck off.
autoerotica · -1 points · Posted at 18:50:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I stopped using facebook about a year and a half ago, so I'm going to go ahead and say I'm the origin of this trend. Just me.
sarsly · -1 points · Posted at 20:33:47 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Reddit /r/all is mostly anti-Trump or Elon Musk fan fiction at this point.
elit3powars · 1 points · Posted at 21:20:41 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Yeah this is one of the weirder bits of "news" to reach the front page, don't people get bored?
libersemel · -1 points · Posted at 21:01:21 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Musk is o dodgy and sketchy, you just can't trust this guy. One time he is super smart, then he is an idiot, then smart again...he is just a straw man, like Zuckerberg. I mean, the dude has a Tesla motors and rips on Tesla and says Edison was the guy...then apologies and donates $ to Tesla foundation. Never cleared the air about the Paypal scandal. One more of those we don't need.
TheNatural_ · -2 points · Posted at 19:09:59 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Good. Why the fuck would we be investing billions of dollars to go to the moon or mars when people on Earth starve without clean water. What is so awesome about the moon/mars anyway?
nofishontuesday2 · 2 points · Posted at 19:12:19 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Well, if this is such an important topic for you why don't you invest all your money into solving the hunger problem?
TheNatural_ · 1 points · Posted at 19:13:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Because I am a 19 year old kid with a thousand dollars to my name and all I can really do is voice my support and philosophies online in hopes that other people agree and choose to follow the same beliefs.
nofishontuesday2 · 2 points · Posted at 19:36:31 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
good answer for a young adult.
However, hopefully one day you will realize that people need to be responsible for themselves. Meaning, most world hunger issues could be solved by having responsible sex and realizing that it's not someone else's problem to feed a child that you brought into this world.
TheNatural_ · 1 points · Posted at 20:05:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Riiiiight. I am responsible for myself, and I don't really see the correlation of world hunger and sex.
The massive hoarding of wealth and power and huge wastes of food in places like American supermarkets on the other hand.........
nofishontuesday2 · 1 points · Posted at 02:16:34 on March 24, 2018 · (Permalink)
Kid, nothing is fair in this world. There is some real evil shit that goes down outside of your front door every day....death, rape, robbery, the list goes on.
sorry to break it to you but there's nothing you can do about it.
It would be fantastic if every human had a warm bed, a full stomach and love but it's just not the way of the world.
Accept the fact that you are probably pretty well off and do what you can to help your fellow man when you can but look out for #1
Also, be responsible with sex, because sex is what creates life, if you are not able to be responsible for the consiquenses then don't have sex. It's not someone else's problem to care and feed a life that was created by an irresponsible person.
If you can't relate irresponsible sex with world hunger you have a lot to learn.
shelby_bouti · -2 points · Posted at 19:09:34 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Can someone give me like a summary of who Elon musk is? Like does he own Tesla and spaceX? Is he a scientist? I’m just interested in understanding who he is without having to read his who wiki page
SupremeWizardry · 2 points · Posted at 19:40:30 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Created PayPal, got a lot of money.
Is now the closest thing to a real life Tony Stark.
Zamtzu · 0 points · Posted at 19:11:32 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk
Pizzaispepe · -3 points · Posted at 19:17:38 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What a legendary African American! See, it's ok to be white.
toomanydickpics · 2 points · Posted at 19:21:23 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Facebook, Spacex, twitter... He somehow makes it about race.. Looks like stretch Armstrong better watch his back your gunning for his job.
Pizzaispepe · 0 points · Posted at 19:27:37 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
I'm just pointing out one of the few bright spots in the history of African American immigrant contributions to society beyond beat boxing and peanut butter. I always like to remind people that he is a rare African success story among so so so many African nightmares.
toomanydickpics · 2 points · Posted at 20:16:12 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
It's best not to focus on who brought what to america.... :/ There are entire isles in Walgreen's dedicated to just one of the horrible things Europe sent over among all the other horrible things we still haven't been able to shake.
mintysoul · -3 points · Posted at 19:38:15 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
What an emotional nutcase.
Tyetus · -3 points · Posted at 20:42:49 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
This is dumb as fuck, guess I don't care about spacex unless I use twotter? Good job elon, guess I can forget about keeping up with spacex.
Ironicalogical · 1 points · Posted at 20:48:58 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
Some say...they have a website.
Edward616 · -4 points · Posted at 22:45:25 on March 23, 2018 · (Permalink)
He should delete his own company. Tesla hasn’t been profitable, its burning through tons of cash, he cant make enough cars and the ones that does roll off production line have quality and reliability issues.