Official Discussion - Ant Man and The Wasp (SPOILERS)

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ LiteraryBoner ยท 3285 points ยท Posted at 01:49:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)


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Summary:

As Scott Lang balances being both a Super Hero and a father, Hope van Dyne and Dr. Hank Pym present an urgent new mission that finds the Ant-Man fighting alongside The Wasp to uncover secrets from their past.

Director:

Peyton Reed

Writers:

Chris McKenna, Erik Sommers, Paul Rudd, Andrew Barrer, Gabriel Ferrari

Cast:

  • Paul Rudd as Scott Lang/ NUDE. TAYNE.
  • Evangeline Lilly as Hope Van Dyne/ The Wasp
  • Michael Peรฑa as Luis
  • Walton Goggins as Sonny Burch
  • Bobby Cannavale as Paxton
  • Judy Greer as Maggie
  • T.I. as Dave
  • David Dastmalchian as Kurt
  • Hannah John-Kamen as Ava/Ghost
  • Appy Ryder Fortson as Cassie
  • Randall Park as Jimmy Woo
  • Michelle Pfeiffer as Janet Van Dyne/ Wasp
  • Laurence Fishburne as Dr. Bill Foster *Michael Douglas as Dr. Hank Pym

Rotten Tomatoes: 88%

Metacritic: 70/100

After Credits Scene? Yes. One mid and one post.

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danbobsicle ยท 3292 points ยท Posted at 13:40:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think Paul Rudd may have played Janet Van Dyne longer than Michelle Pfeiffer did.

Shortstop88 ยท 1054 points ยท Posted at 05:29:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And he was spectacular.

Doip ยท 583 points ยท Posted at 05:39:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He killed that scene.

BattlinBud ยท 154 points ยท Posted at 13:48:00 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Favorite part of the movie, hands down. That, or the joke about the baseball caps and sunglasses calling back to Civil War.

No-cool-names-left ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 01:35:55 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Civil War and Winter Soldier and Iron Man 3 and Age of Ultron and The Incredible Hulk and...

BattlinBud ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 13:51:44 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kinda forgot how many times they did that haha

Scrial ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:47:10 on October 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agents of Shield did it quite a few times too.

Winston_Road ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 05:01:01 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Boxy310 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:01:35 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's like city camo. Nobody's falling for it but it's what all the other civvies are wearing.

GillbergsAdvocate ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:15:13 on August 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Everytime I see someone wearing a baseball cap and sunglasses I assume they are trying to be inconspicuous so I spark up a conversation if I can

GayFesh ยท 182 points ยท Posted at 01:44:22 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My girlfriend speculated that they may have filmed that sequence by having Michelle act it out first and then Paul would come in and copy her actions.

Uncle_Freddy ยท 137 points ยท Posted at 04:52:39 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s how theyโ€™ve done it in the past in the MCU. In Capโ€™s cameo in Thor 2 (Loki shapeshifts into him for a bit), Hiddleston acted the scene first and then Chris Evans went on and did his best impression of Hiddleston.

I also think I remember hearing that Emma Watson did the same for Helena Bonham-Carter in Deathly Hallows (not that itโ€™s an MCU movie, but itโ€™s another example).

waitingtodiesoon ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 02:44:54 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They did it for everyone including the guard and lady sif

SalukiKnightX ยท 135 points ยท Posted at 18:36:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You may not be off.

Jenga_Police ยท 235 points ยท Posted at 17:56:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm really disappointed that nobody calls Hope Ant Ma'am so she can say, "Call me The Wasp, Ant Ma'am was my mother."

mattXIX ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 22:46:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is terrible and I love it

MrPMS ยท 2173 points ยท Posted at 06:31:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Michael Pena will be explaining the Snappening to Scott once he is back in A4.

theninjashyguy ยท 2409 points ยท Posted at 20:25:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I could die a happy man seeing Thanos lip sync over Luis saying "and the big purple space-man was like 'Yo, there ain't enough resources in the universe for everyone, we gotta balance that shit out'".

I_am_BEOWULF ยท 531 points ยท Posted at 16:36:28 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh, I'd love this but I don't see how Luis or the rest of the other world civilians would know about Thanos though. He only set foot on Earth in Wakanda during the battle, no public announcements, and then just a few minutes later the snap happens.

Peterkarber ยท 165 points ยท Posted at 20:53:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe the Avengers go through him to find and save Scott?

Zombare ยท 116 points ยท Posted at 23:01:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Making a call now, the dusted avengers somehow meet up with Scott through a time vortex and are somehow brought to Earth and out the back of Luis' van.

Voodoo_Soviet ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:46:06 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ill put money on that. Janet said something about time vortexes. See ya next year.

Zombare ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:44:08 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

See you on the other side of the war.

dem0nhunter ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 23:11:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tony has a lot of explaining to do once heโ€™s back on Earth. He will probably answer to Ross and the UN. And from there on the general public can be clued in

I_am_BEOWULF ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 01:27:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ross and the UN probably got dusted. If not, they probably have more pressing emergencies to deal with at home. Almost all countries will probably deal with missing leaders, key officials, and vital personnel. Law enforcement and the military will be swamped - as they would essentially lose at least half or more of their manpower and people will be flooding them with missing persons, accidents and disaster reports. What happens when key personnel manning 24-hour vital infrastructures such as nuclear grids suddenly get dusted in the middle of work? Hospitals suddenly losing multiple surgeons, doctors and nurses?

Thanos may have only halved the world's population via snap, but the immediate post-snap effect will probably result in the deaths of thousands.

[deleted] ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 02:30:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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arxero ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 00:11:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Millions in real life = โ€œThousandsโ€ in the MCU, haha. They donโ€™t seem to want to address mass death in any of the movies. The death tolls in NY, Sokovia, and other โ€œworld-endingโ€ threats have seemed comically low tbh

Neurotic_Marauder ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 04:05:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Considering Thanos' "snap" is probably definitely going to be undone in A4, it's possible Disney might let Marvel cut loose and actually show how horrifying half the world's population suddenly vanishing would be. It's already been hinted at in the post-credits scene of Infinity War with helicopters falling out of the sky and cars crashing everywhere.

EsQuiteMexican ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:17:31 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like this about Doctor Who: canonically the world is short a billion people compared to ours due to the results of the multiple alien invasions. So many kills plus a declining birthrate means that by 2009 the world's population is around 5.5 billion.

kefkathe ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:49:31 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is this the one with Cassandra?

EsQuiteMexican ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:47:26 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, you're thinking of the death of Earth, 5 billion years from now. This was in the episode where the Earth disappeared.

Big_h3aD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:16:42 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have to watch that show some day, it sounds ridonkulous

EsQuiteMexican ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:24 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It is. That's the cool part.

DanF2000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:37:27 on August 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was this Stolen Earth/Journeys End?

EsQuiteMexican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:06 on August 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yep.

WhoryGilmore ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 20:37:59 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Luis knows a guy who knows a guy who knows Thanos dawg

I_am_BEOWULF ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:40:44 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I bet it's Ebony Maw. Fucking blabbermouth.

ElegantBiscuit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:51:04 on October 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Get lost squidward!

thegimboid ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 13:43:54 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe, instead of something in Infinity War 2, it could be a short video released before the film of Luis reminding the viewers of the events of the first film.

oheysup ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:36:06 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Are you questioning their security company dude they got it on film for sure

Nukemarine ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:23:45 on December 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Easy, Luis is secretly a watcher.

morphinapg ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 08:45:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I need this now!

Icybluewater ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:48:42 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

fuck i never knew i wanted this until you mentioned it

Squeezycakes17 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:13:58 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

seeing Thanos lip sync over Luis saying "and the big purple space-man was like 'Yo, there ain't enough resources in the universe for everyone, we gotta balance that shit out'".

i did not know my life was incomplete until i read this

PLEASE LORD LET THIS HAPPEN

xx

Riitchiie ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 08:06:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

May we all be so lucky.

booshmang ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 23:32:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Luis recapping all of the mcu from iron man 1 to A4 is the only thing I want out of life

joshmoxey ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:26:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

First time seeing it referred to as the Snappening. That's amazing.

arghnard ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:40:22 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The image of Pena voicing Thanos, talking fast with sassy gestures...

mrsunshine1 ยท 2011 points ยท Posted at 00:31:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One of the most accurate depictions of teachers Iโ€™ve seen.

โ€œHey kid whereโ€™s your hall pass?โ€

โ€œKid runs away.โ€

begins to care. โ€œMeh.โ€

slopnessie ยท 194 points ยท Posted at 04:30:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I had a hall duty for 20 minutes a day this year as a long term substitute teacher. First time doing it. When I had my change over day with the teacher I took over she just told me to grab a desk out of one of the nearby rooms and bring some work to pass the time. When I sat there I just wstched the same 10 kids come around 3-4 times. I just told them to get back to class or at least keep moving if they decided to just sit there in class. What am I gonna do? chase em down tell me their name? walk them back to their class? It's so much effort to care about hallwalkers. I felt for that moment, they nailed it.

BendADickCumOnBack ยท 232 points ยท Posted at 02:34:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also the gym teacher in SpiderMan

WhatTheFhtagn ยท 235 points ยท Posted at 09:41:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Peter just waltzes out of detention

Hannibal Buress:(without looking up from his book) "Hey, where you going."

BattlinBud ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 13:51:28 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hannibal was so goddamn Hannibal in that movie, I loved it.

Bamres ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 15:03:58 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's good at that

Rory_B_Bellows ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 00:23:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's the only non-super human I hope survived the snap.

dave-a-sarus ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 01:45:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Always glad to see Brian Huskey pop up in a movie

StraY_WolF ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 06:11:48 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Aww snap! I knew I saw that guy before. He was Google in the "If google was a guy" skit.

batti03 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 16:22:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

With Randall Park!

waitingtodiesoon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:07:58 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I know him as chet from childrens hospital

GUSHandGO ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:56:21 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loved him in This Is The End. And his run of Sonic commercials.

ggarner57 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:50:53 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do hall passes ever actually exist? I donโ€™t know anyone that used them

peanutbuttervraptor ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 01:50:16 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yep! My high school uses them. Most of the time if you donโ€™t have it teachers and even the principal do not give a shit, but the vice principal is really strict and will ask where your pass is and just tell you to get to class. Only the realllyy bad kids/troublemakers actually get in trouble.

waitingtodiesoon ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:10:54 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We had a super young looking choir teacher that a vice principal stopped and asked to see a hallpass and wouldn't believe her that she was a teacher. She got taken to the principal's office. Though her classroom is in a separate building sort of

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:59:29 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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peanutbuttervraptor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:58:14 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m trying my best :) really nervous to go out into the โ€œreal worldโ€, but excited too.

Flexappeal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:56:16 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

bb donโ€™t worry, college isnโ€™t the real world. Itโ€™s like the tutorial level at the start of the game where you learn the controls.

peanutbuttervraptor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:17:26 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That comparison makes me feel a lot better

Bamres ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:25:28 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My school gave us a yearly day planner agenda that had a sign out sheet in the back

GUSHandGO ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:57:22 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mine did the same in the late 90s.

talldrseuss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:02 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Used them in the 90s

ARflash ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:57:24 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked the cute version of Ant-Man theme music played along with it.

BillytheMagicToilet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:11:18 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Bamres ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:03:23 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was thinking about how we had to carry a sign out sheet to go to the bathroom in highschool and I only had it checked once in 4 years. Teacher asked and I literally raised the sheet to show them, before they could even come close enough to see it they're like "youre good"..

waitingtodiesoon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:11:54 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My school would give bonus points or rewards if we had less then two uses of bathroom pass.

Twigryph ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:18:12 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love that actor. So nice to see him get time on the big screen. He's the 'If Google Was a Guy' guy and on Adult Swim with pretty great show.

xThe-Legend-Killerx ยท 3090 points ยท Posted at 05:53:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Michael Pena explaining where Scott was emotionally rather than his physical location was the highlight of the movie.

thecricketnerd ยท 1176 points ยท Posted at 14:33:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Then his mid-explanation diversion to the story about music and Morrissey, particularly after we hear Scott's ringtone being a Morrissey song.

[deleted] ยท 191 points ยท Posted at 06:02:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They just really connect with his melancholy ballads.

darshfloxington ยท 124 points ยท Posted at 08:39:29 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously though, Moz is huge in Latino communities. He is to Mexico what Hasselhoff is to Germany.

n_polytope ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:31:16 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

er, why though?

SmellyFingerz ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 19:19:40 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They just really connect with his melancholy ballads

SlumberCat ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 19:12:52 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Between that and Iโ€™M GONNA DISINTEGRATE YOU from the 1st film, you get an idea for the director/writerโ€™s joy of post punk/new wave. I was afraid that Edgar Wright wrote most of the Luis and music jokes in that before leaving the production, but here they are!

thecricketnerd ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 19:19:43 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really did think I'm Gonna Disintegrate You was an Edgar Wright thing and the Luis sequences seemed right up his alley too... he did co-write the original script for the first movie so I think they just kept that stuff because it worked so well and then adapted it for the sequel.

Makelikeawillis ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 22:17:43 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They weren't, peyton reed said they came up with then after wright left and they started fimling.

thecricketnerd ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:55:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

well that's just ruined my fantasies

RadioOnThe_TV ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 06:29:36 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The thugs all confessing after they tied them up and gave them the truth sereum was my favorite. "we steal technology and deal it on the black market to the highest bidders, hes the boss" "thats true I am"

waitingtodiesoon ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 03:16:45 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It is truth serum.

I was a bit peeved with them not saying it existed as SHIELD had some in the pilot. Until the end lol

ktron10 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 10:30:54 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"That's just dumb stuff from tv"

flying_monkey_stick ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:46:23 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, the pilot left things vague on purpose. Skye sees Ward talking about his grandma and become a seemingly open book but he later says that it was just a trick and that all the information he gave her was just Level 1 stuff.

hemareddit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:49:54 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œlevel 1 overshareโ€

waitingtodiesoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:24 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was that the same episode? Still on S1

FlameswordFireCall ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:36:33 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Stick with it. After the first season, Agents of Shield is one of the best shows on TV

flying_monkey_stick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:16 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can't remember, to be honest. It was either at the end of the first episode or somewhere in the second episode.

RogerDeanVenture ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 16:44:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That may have been one of the funniest MCU moments to date. Heck, the movie as a whole was one of the funnier movies in general

[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 06:54:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That scene had me in stitches

ABandApart ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:39:34 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

His whole tangent about the danishes fucking killed me. I was laughing so hard I couldnโ€™t focus on the movie for the next five minutes.

muhash14 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:12:15 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved the truth serum running gag too.

Squeezycakes17 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:09:02 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Luis is a brilliant character xx

OldboySamurai ยท 1512 points ยท Posted at 07:02:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The way David Dastmalchians character shrieked "Baba Yaga!!!" at seeing Ghost had me in stitches.

Worthyness ยท 702 points ยท Posted at 07:16:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And him singing the nursery rhyme to himself was hilarious.

sundayultimate ยท 223 points ยท Posted at 21:28:23 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is how we get Keanu into the MCU

Boxy310 ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 22:12:58 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

With a fookin pencil.

TheDesktopNinja ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:29:54 on November 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One question: did the snap kill his dog?

thrwwyforpmingnudes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:54:17 on October 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i mean why would the nursery rhyme be in english? makes no sense. that threw me off

metalninjacake2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:31 on October 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

worst part of the movie for sure

Orto_Dogge ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 21:39:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nice of the writers to actually know what "Baba Yaga" means.

5213 ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 03:36:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sure they saw John Wick as well /s

randomclock ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:25:58 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just saw it earlier and was the only one in the theater who got that joke. Thank you Myths and Legends podcast.

metalninjacake2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:50 on October 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Still couldn't pronounce it right though

bodyintherye ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 11:00:20 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was hilarious when he was talking about it and that string music in the background was playing lol

jrgolden42 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 11:25:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The film also seems to actually know what Baba Yaga is (looking at you John Wick)

trimeta ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:38:23 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Although, didn't he mispronounce it? I thought the proper pronunciation had the emphasis on the last syllable.

metalninjacake2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:04 on October 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yup

Hayden_Hank_1994 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:26:00 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I immediately thought of John Wick

imakefilms ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:33:33 on August 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Literally everything with that character fell flat when I saw it. Not a fan of that character or ridiculous fake Russian accent.

thrwwyforpmingnudes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:53:08 on October 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

didnt even know he was supposed to be russian. i thought he was supposed to be bulgarian or something

IWBInFamous ยท 3047 points ยท Posted at 02:27:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott tied for "Worst affected by Snap" with Tony and Rocket.

words_words_words_ ยท 2273 points ยท Posted at 06:27:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott is now stranded in the Quantum realm because of the snap. Heโ€™s definitely the most affected.

I_am_BEOWULF ยท 767 points ยท Posted at 22:54:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have a feeling that "Time Vortex" line by Janet is a set-up for something marvelous. :)

WillyTheWackyWizard ยท 518 points ยท Posted at 02:47:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What a coincidence, Captain Marvel takes place in the 1990s...

peanutbuttahcups ยท 132 points ยท Posted at 10:13:25 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude...don't blow my mind rn.

K1BBL3ZnT1TZ ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 05:40:06 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yea but didn't Fury page her in present day?

WillyTheWackyWizard ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 06:08:53 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Her movie will be a prequel

Boxy310 ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 22:04:40 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And will feature Thranduil McBitchface before he melted himself with the Power stone.

name600 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:12:45 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What. How do you know that

Mebbwebb ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:05:03 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Comics?

Voodoo_Soviet ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:05:15 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Kree and skrulls play a big role in her film.

coool12121212 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:24:47 on August 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because he's been confirmed.

name600 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:27 on August 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

link please :)

coool12121212 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:37:50 on August 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
name600 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:52 on August 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

thank you!

StonedGibbon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:06 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What a way with words you have

_TheRedKing_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:19:14 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Omg

afrojoe5000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:35 on October 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Of course! Ant Man will meet up with Captain Marvel and quantum time science will stop him from returning to the present. Captain Marvel's suit looks like both his hetero and homosexual crush and they live for decades in bliss on another planet. This leads to A4 when Paul Rudd finally removes his 90's Paul Rudd mask and reveals his true appearance as a 50 year old man. Thanos will return?

dave-a-sarus ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 01:05:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What does she say again? That was such a quick throwaway line, I didn't think anything of it

munromae ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 01:43:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was something along the lines of "stay away from a time vortex or we won't be able to get you back."

shinxanta ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 03:13:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Here I was thinking that โ€œAnt Man is the key to all thisโ€ was some hype bullshit or whatever, but Iโ€™m now seeing itโ€™s completely possible he will go to a time vortex and try to convince Iron Man/Cap that shit will be fucked.

travio ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 02:21:20 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It has to be Cap because he was name dropped so much. Somewhere in the first act of the next Avengers film Scott is going to find an earlier Captain America who of course wont recognize him. I'd die laughing if they pull a Back to the Future and have Rogers ask "Who's president in this future you are from?" with a response like: "That answer will not convince you I'm telling the truth."

blex64 ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 05:03:10 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cap was name dropped because that's the side ant man was fighting on.

travio ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 05:11:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True, which makes him the more likely avenger for Scott to approach. He knows him the best.

7HoursOfKushner ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:52:04 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Time Vortex, would it maybe by influenced by the feelings of the traveler? :p

shinxanta ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:20:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As much as I dislike trump, marvel is doing too good to pull a risky move like that.

BowToTheMannis ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 22:25:52 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Trump isn't president in the MCU. Mathew Ellis is president. Only the T.V shows don't follow that.

Classified0 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:54:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also, Captain America probably wouldn't recognize Trump anyways since he was frozen for so long and missed the 80s and 90s.

SlumberCat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:10:02 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, heโ€™d probably not know the name at all unless he was familiar with Fred Trump.

_TheRedKing_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:40:11 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think he's going back to Avengers 1 time

Malarazz ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:47:08 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œAnt Man is the key to all thisโ€

Where did this come from? Was this a line in one of the movies?

_TheRedKing_ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:41:05 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think Fiege said it

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:56:22 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Triforce_Oddysee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:57:11 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

small

Heh

jetjodh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:57:17 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This was a post in reddit itself about Ant-Man being the key to the win.

nukumiyuki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:22 on August 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tom Holland kind of said Benedict Cumberbatch has such difficult lines in Avengers and had to keep talking about the Quantum Realm and whatnot in an interview...

smoke_you ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:14:03 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How will Ant Man know anything about Thanos and the snap though?

mcjinzo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:25:45 on October 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

From Luis you fool!

MistakenLoner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good call!

ProtectMeC0ne ยท 819 points ยท Posted at 15:59:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean you could argue that ignorance is bliss?

Maybe Scott just thinks the quantum tunnel broke. He doesnโ€™t know the real truth yet

words_words_words_ ยท 696 points ยท Posted at 18:49:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but then...once he gets back, it's gonna be bad.

I really hope they didn't dust Cassie.

PuttyZ01 ยท 914 points ยท Posted at 03:22:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They're gonna save the child dusting for Hawkeye's kids

[deleted] ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 04:42:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s so gonna be the opening to A4.

No Marvel fanfair, just like IW, but instead of a Kenneth Branagh distress call, its the sounds of Clint playing in the yard of his ranch house with his kids.

Fade in and you see Linda standing on the porch watching until suddenly BOOM, one kids poofs, then BOOM second kid poofs, Renner starts shitting his pants and looks over at Linda until BOOM she poofs. He turns to Nathaniel, his youngest, who can barely get out โ€œdaddyโ€ before BOOM poof.

Camera pans around to Bartonโ€™s face which, perhaps too quickly, morphs from horror and sadness to a steely resolve thinly masking the rage underneath.

Cut to black

amjhwk ยท 116 points ยท Posted at 04:51:48 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hawkeye must really suck at coin flops if he loses 100% of his family on 50/50 odds

SupaSlide ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 12:51:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He would only have slightly worse odds than Ant-Man experienced.

[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:34:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Heโ€™s also really lucky though that none of the important avengers that theyโ€™ll need to beat Thanos are gone. Tony, Cap, and Thor go poof? The whole universe is halved forever

amjhwk ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 19:12:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Idk scarlet witch and dr strange are both more powerful than all the avengers except for maybe thor and they both went poof

Flexappeal ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 05:28:41 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

At IW levels, Thor literally solos everyone in this universe except maybe Hela on Asgard and Thanos.

Topblokelikehodgey ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:28:05 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah he'd solo her as well. They both get their power from Asgard although he gets it from the people whereas she seems to get it from the planet/rock thingy itself (or believes as such). At IW levels he would fuck her up imo, he's getting towards Odin levels at least, maybe above them and she still couldn't touch Odin. With the axe he'd be near unstoppable in that fight.

Dabaran ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:48:45 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also that colossal fire dude he ran away from just before IW, I'd wager.

Ubarlight ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:35:58 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's why I'm not worried about the Avengers that poofed.

The ones that remained are some of the longest running actors in the group, and we know some contracts are up.

Some of those Avengers are going to die bringing everyone else back.

Darkurai ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 13:47:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Gambler's fallacy. If it's truly completely random, some people are gonna get really lucky, and some people are gonna really pull the short straw.

Malarazz ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 12:42:31 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's not gambler's fallacy to say it's really bad luck to be hit with the 6.25% odds lmao

Voodoo_Soviet ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:10:13 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think 'boom' was the wrong word to use.

Gcarsk ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 06:27:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Whatโ€™s the name of the character we are all assuming heโ€™s gonna be in A4? I canโ€™t remember what the rogue-like Hawkeye from the comics is called.

PuttyZ01 ยท 129 points ยท Posted at 06:29:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ronin?

Gcarsk ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 06:29:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah thatโ€™s it. Thanks!

amjhwk ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:50:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ronin the destroyer?

No-cool-names-left ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 01:41:47 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just to clarify things for everybody, Ronin (like a masterless Samurai) is one of the superhero identities Clint "Hawkeye" Barton has used before, Ronan the Accuser is the blue guy with a hammer from Guardians of the Galaxy and the upcoming Captain Marvel, and Drax is the one with the sobriquet "the Destroyer."

IamTheBlade ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 11:35:48 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, The Accuser.

Elgato01 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 06:13:52 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

thats ronan

chorytosa ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:08:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Drax is the destroyer

[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 07:10:07 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Could you imagine giving birth to a child and then when you're finished the baby turns to dust in your arms. Then you look around as your husband fades away along with all the doctors and nurses, leaving you alone and disoriented on the hospital bed.

peytonblitz ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 20:33:09 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thereโ€™s a show that has a similar premise to this, The Leftovers, where an event called the Sudden Departure occurs where 2% of the worlds population randomly disappears.

One person was pregnant when it happened and their fetus disappeared from her womb.

Flexappeal ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:29:48 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Only 2%? That doesnโ€™t seem drastic. Iโ€™ve never watched the show so I assume they make a good point about how significant it is

peytonblitz ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:12:56 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It isnโ€™t drastic no, but itโ€™s still ~150 million people. It doesnโ€™t really change the balance of world power or anything. It more so focuses on how it effects people who had no one they know disappear, and how it effects people who had many people they know disappear. How they cope with whatโ€™s happened, and if they can even move on after something unexplainable happens like this.

captainrob87 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:33:57 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Physically it's not a significant amount of people. But psychologically it's fucks everyone up. That's what the show is about. And it's fantastic.

Flexappeal ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:59:36 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™ll get into it

Tactful ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:33 on October 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Bruh, it's hugely drastic. 1/50 of the people you met in your life vanishes with no explanation. Every single person on the planet experiences loss, whether it's a friend, a loved one etc. It's horrible. Great show though!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:36 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, I'll have to check that out

2SP00KY4ME ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:31:05 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Ubarlight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:34:18 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was one thing Hawkeye didn't see coming.

PM-ME-WEIRD-FACTS ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 18:57:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, theyโ€™re gonna survive. Kids never die in kidsโ€™ movies

[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 06:00:20 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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flying_monkey_stick ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:41:20 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, it was a relatively clean death. No blood or gore. Granted, his powers made his dusting much more unpleasant.

mcjinzo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:29:20 on October 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck unpleasant that shit was brutal

roach5k ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 04:28:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really thought they were going to snap her. She had a lot of screen time, and I was preparing myself.

GayFesh ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:40:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Rumors are that Infinity War Part II is going to take place 5 years after the snap. Cassie will be, what, fifteen? Sixteen? She's a superhero in the comics with shrinking powers, we may see a teenaged Cassie using an old suit of Scott's or Hope's.

mercwitha40ounce ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:23:41 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Source?

RRodd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:36:18 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

hopefully they will make her use a suit since they made a couple of references to her being a sidekick to ant-man on this movie?

amjhwk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why the only way he gets out is for the snap to be reversed so at that point he'll never know it happened

Aykay24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:16 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If they dusted Cassie, I'm rioting.

PM-ME-WEIRD-FACTS ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Kids never die in kidsโ€™ movies

waitingtodiesoon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:55:58 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Bridge to terabithia and my girl

Elcactus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:36 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They can offscreen if its in a reversible fashion.

Classified0 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:51:40 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think that may be worse, because if he thinks that the tunnel just broke, he may be waiting for a rescue that will never come.

Gavster1221 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:44:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Going to be interesting to see if he "evolves".

words_words_words_ ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:15:29 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe he could still be Ant-Man sans suit ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

Gavster1221 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:25:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When we saw Ghosts problem I really thought that's where the movie was headed lol.

blex64 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:03:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think he can just grow back out of it. He did in the first movie.

enderandrew42 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:42:15 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tony and Rocket are stranded on another planet.

words_words_words_ ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 11:40:20 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Theyโ€™re Tony and Rocket though. โ€œStrandedโ€ is just a Tuesday for them. Theyโ€™ll be together in no time.

TheWolfmanZ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:22:19 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tony has Nebula with him. Plus the Guardians ship has to be parked somewhere close by. As for Rocket, he may stick with Thor and the Avengers for a bit. Plus Thor has the Bifrost for travel too.

enderandrew42 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:56:19 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thor needs Heimdal to open the Bifrost, and Heimdal is dead.

ContinentTurtle ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 14:07:55 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My god have you remembered nothing

Eevee136 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:46:43 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So, I know I'm a bit late. But it seems a bit silly for Hank and Janet to not build a safeguard for Scott to get himself out in the event that something goes wrong.

pa79 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:06:20 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder if he escaped the Snap by being in the quantum realm or if he was supposed to survive anyway?

SlumberCat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:37:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When he gets out, is he gonna have God powers like Janet though?

words_words_words_ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:19:02 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, she was in there for 30+ years. I imagine that had something to do with the saturation of abilities.

FullySikh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:00 on October 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He could just get out like he did in the first movie. Unless I missed some movie explanation as to why he can't do that again.

words_words_words_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:29:39 on October 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He tried it right at the end. It didnโ€™t work because Hank changed the regulator design from the mk1 to the mk2

WinstonsTasteGood ยท 482 points ยท Posted at 07:58:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think Hawkeye is going to win this contest in the long run.

omart3 ยท 204 points ยท Posted at 18:53:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think someone will finally be able to tag him only to start dusting away, leaving Hawkeye with a satisfied smirk on his face.

Shortstop88 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 05:32:22 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Clearly what he was doing while the Avengers were fighting Thanos.

DeweyTime ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:16:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I get that reference!

Fourhand_451 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:25 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What?

Intergalactic201 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:42:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hawkeyeโ€™s actor is in the movie Tag. I havenโ€™t seen it but from the trailers it seems like heโ€™s been playing a game of tag with some friends his whole life and has never been tagged by them

Vdra ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:26:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Your comment made me just imagine Thanos making the snap, and for some reason his bow and arrows just turn to dust, and Hawkeye is sitting there realizing how useless he is now.

SlumberCat ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:40:10 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

vortexes back in time YOU SHOULD HAVE AIMED FOR MY HEA- bullseye to the head There we go. Everyone ok?

tobiasxny ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:46:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

With how much the internet wants this scene they'll probably intentionally drop the idea.

AsAGayJewishDemocrat ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 16:12:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I know they wouldn't do it, but just imagine:

Mrs. Hawkeye just doing the dishes when she doubles over in pain. As she screams, you see her stomach shrink as faded-away-baby-dust falls to the ground.

MindWeb125 ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 16:46:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Does she not wear underwear?

Also the baby was actually born already. They named him Nathaniel Pietro Barton.

AsAGayJewishDemocrat ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 16:51:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like to think she'll be pregnant again to really amplify the punch to Mr. Hawkeye

Worthyness ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 06:35:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fair enough. Hawkeye never misses.

Jenga_Police ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:58:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Gross.

TheMadTemplar ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:36 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They're talking about unborn babies melting intondust in the womb brfore leaking out, and a jizz joke is what grosses you out?

Classified0 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:56:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What would be worse is if she turns to dust, but the baby doesn't.

AsAGayJewishDemocrat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:55:00 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You mean what would be better.

Vondrr ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 08:42:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, what about Scarlet Witch? She had to kill Vision only to see him getting killed again... and then she died too. But if you mean "worst affected by Snap and surviving", then yeah...

i-like-tea ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 18:37:54 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Rocket lost everyone he cares about. He's the only guardian left.

aidopple ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:23:11 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but did he have to kill them only for them to be brought back and killed again? Didn't think so lol

i-like-tea ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:46:54 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He has to live with it though. Scarlet Witch's pain was at least brief.

aidopple ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:51:06 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Depending on where they end up once disintegrated. But yeah I forgot she also disappeared afterwards

Pr0x1mo ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 16:24:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah hawkeye. Mark my words, i guarantee that guy loses his wife and kid.

theimmortalcrab ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 14:37:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know man, was Tony really that much worse affected in terms of loved ones lost? Sure, he's stuck on an alien planet, but I'd say Scott's situation is worse in that regard. And we only really know that Tony lost Peter and Rhodey. That's not really worse than most of the remaining Avengers, and much better than Rocket.

(Clint's probably gonna end up hit the worst, though.)

[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 15:20:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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NLP19 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:19:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We don't know if Pepper got snapped

omart3 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:55:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, she got gooped.

theimmortalcrab ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:26:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but we can't really use people whose satus we don't know to decide which Avenger has it 'worse'.

theimmortalcrab ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Right. My brain somehow decided it was only the 'core' Avengers left, but you're right, Rhodey made it.

DonaldBlythe2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:48:00 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Rhodey is still alive. Falcoln isn't though.

thrwwyforpmingnudes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:47 on October 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i ''like'' how thor is disqualified from this because everyone he cares about died before the snap

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:57:49 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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BrightMoment ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:26:04 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's the only Guardian left.

waitingtodiesoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:03 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You see draxx mantis and quill dusted on Titan and you see Groot dusted in front of rocket during the battle of wakanda

dont_worry_im_here ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:30 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was the post-credit scene filmed before or after Infinity Wars?

TheMadTemplar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:36:41 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did Rocket survive?

Felipe_O ยท 4182 points ยท Posted at 04:14:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seeing the step dad being such a cool supportive guy is awesome and subverts the "evil step-dad" trope that's been done to death. It warmed my heart whenever he was there giving big group hugs :).

TaddWinter ยท 1730 points ยท Posted at 04:52:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I got the good vibe from him in the first too, I felt he was genuinely sympathetic to Scott but it wasn't going to stop him from doing his job, nor in protecting a little girl who is going to get hurt by Scott if/when he slips up and goes back to prison.

Worthyness ยท 717 points ยท Posted at 06:42:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott's crime was with good faith behind it (he exposed a company doing bad stuff), so I think the cop guy believes he's a good guy. Then when he sees Scott save/protect Cassie in the first one, it showed that Scott is legitimately a great dad and that he was worth giving a second chance to.

Vranak ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 12:10:00 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love that the FBI agent actually wanted to have dinner with Scott, that was cute.

RogerDeanVenture ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 22:53:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think too also a lot of people will agree with Scotts actions. Yes it was illegal and he has to deal with all this FBI stuff. But they all know he went to Germany to do Avenger's stuff and is part of that elite circle of heros. So anybody who disagrees with the Accords would be 100% /r/antmandidnothingwrong

supersaiyandragons ยท 138 points ยท Posted at 03:42:00 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To see his ex-wife and her new husband defend Scott against the FBI treatment of him was very heartwarming compared to the first movie. I like to believe that they wholeheartedly support and are proud of him for what he did in Germany (essentially becoming a real Avenger in their eyes)

Sharpshooter_200 ยท 635 points ยท Posted at 05:02:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved when the wife was rambling on about how the FBI couldn't do this and that, and he just goes like, "Actually they can..."

Arafax ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 21:27:43 on August 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"that's harassment!"

"actually, it's not."

IAMA_LongHorse ยท 1241 points ยท Posted at 04:50:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked that they showed the ex-wife and Step-dad still being supportive of Scott. Even when it was obvious he was Ant-Man again. Heโ€™s proved himself and they acknowledge that.

Wealthy_Gadabout ยท 191 points ยท Posted at 04:44:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I hate it in movies and TV shows when Character A saves Character B's life only for Character B to forget all about it a week later, and continues to treat Character A like shit. Its just bad unrealistic writing.

Malarazz ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 12:28:08 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is there a name for that trope? I can't think of any examples of when that happened.

Ignisiel ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 04:44:16 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Aesop Amnesia, Status Quo Is God, Complaining About Rescues They Don't Like, Ungrateful Bastard, and probably a few others.

Cognimancer ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:07:44 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude, Where's My Respect is the most pertinent I think

Ed_Thatch ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 16:17:25 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s a huge issue in all the DC CW shows

EsQuiteMexican ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:53:13 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but what are we supposed to do? Not watch superheroes until Captain Marvel comes out?

ItsSomethingLikeThat ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 12:27:52 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just rewatch Agents of Shield, duh. Or Legion.

Elcactus ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:12:43 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Implying we're not caught up on both

TheMadTemplar ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:26:36 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Legion is fucking trippy. And the shit they do mixing eras? Wtf. Lol I love it, it's so freaking weird.

spoonerwilkins ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:36:48 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm more or less convinced that more than half of what we see in that show is just us seeing his perception of what's going on. Without going into the exact situation I refuse to believe there's a tunnel system like that with an entrance in the form of a drain with a massive dish washing plug complete with beaded chain as a gate.

TheMadTemplar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:58 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have no clue what the hell you're talking about, but totally believe such a thing exists in the show.

spoonerwilkins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:19 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's in one of the later scenes, maybe second to last episode. That's the hole all the armed mooks came from that Kerry got to bash the snot out of.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:52 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Bromleyisms ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:02:33 on August 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you need validation for saving someone's life, you're not a good person. I'm not saying he isn't an asshole, I'm saying you are too for actively regretting saving someone, and trying to use that against him in an argument.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:11:08 on August 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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pajam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:01:22 on October 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like someone who recently called my grandma pretending to be her grandson, saying he was trapped on an island in the Caribbean and needed money/help. Good thing she questioned him further, and he eventually identified himself by my name, but after enough questions he just hung up.

NobleHalcyon ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 14:59:16 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The entire situation is a political issue in the Marvel universe - remember, Civil War was basically a partisan fight over a piece of legislation that everyone was divided on. I'd like to think that the public is also similarly divided.

I mean, think of the public perception of this. Scott Lang was party to the destruction of one tarmac while trying to help the literal symbol of America and the group of people who saved the world from both an alien invasion and mega-skynet stop four hyper-assassins from being set loose by a deranged madman. I don't see how that wouldn't be at the very least divisive among some party line.

[deleted] ยท 111 points ยท Posted at 04:55:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My mother-in-law would have her kids watch "Mrs. Doubtfire" because it was one of the few movies at the time where there was a divorce and the couple didn't end up back together at the end and IT WAS OK.

Pierce Brosnans character wasn't a jerk either which was also refreshing.

[deleted] ยท 225 points ยท Posted at 21:38:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This was one of the things I think they did really well in terms of their relationship branching off from the first movie. I hoped they wouldn't ruin Scott's reputation as seen by Paxton at the end of the film, and it was such a nice breath of fresh air to see Paxton still rooting for Scott in the end. Loved it!

ludgarthewarwolf ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 04:53:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Which is totally great because the same actor in Mr. Robot plays a sociopathic murderer.

Terazilla ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:16:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And that guy is chill compared the Cannavale's Boardwalk Empire character.

dafood48 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:47:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait who did he play? Was he the limo driver?

ludgarthewarwolf ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:25:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Season 3 he plays a fixer for the Dark Army.

Malarazz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:30:17 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit I didn't realize that was the same actor at all

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:58:14 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He plays a great psycho gangster in Boardwalk Empire

ithinkther41am ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 20:09:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also subverts the โ€œevil Bobby Cannavaleโ€ trope.

busche916 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:45:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey, heโ€™s a good dude in Chef

richardsim7 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:12:20 on July 31, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And Nurse Jackie

Winston_Road ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:23:29 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He was (kind of) good in Blue Jasmine.

dafood48 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 22:46:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Heck seeing the bad guys have a nice ending minus the evil souhern dude was wholesome as fuck.

Elcactus ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:14:53 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked this movie because for most of it no one was even really evil. Even the southern guy just broke out the truth serum on Luis instead of the usual torture. I was almost disappointed when he decided to kill them just because at the end.

[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 20:45:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Bbzk001 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:05:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Chef Jeff was framed /#notmetoo

JumpinJack2 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 06:34:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's also refreshing because historically the actor typically portrays a less than ideal human being.

MrMathbot ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:08:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

His work on the latest season of Mr Robot made this really weird for me.

Cofishioner ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:26:26 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like between the Ant-Man movies and Guardians Vol. 2 with Yondu, Marvel seems to be good at breaking the evil stepdad stereotype.

mikeweasy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:20:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was an easy paycheck for Bobby LOL.

that_guy2010 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:51:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They did that in the first one. This was just icing on the cake.

spwf ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:11:02 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously. The entire time, I was expecting there to be some dick-ish comment made by him or something. But no.

haildecoysnail ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:05:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loved this too but I really feel like Bobby Carnavale's talent is underused in this role. He would've made a pretty good Marvel villain.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:43:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought Cannavale was underused but did a great job in his role.

Vranak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:07:32 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you like that guy, I forget his name, check him out in Mr. Robot. The last season that aired (three I think) was out-of-this-world good. I never even watched the first two sesaons but enjoyed the third immensely, and I really do mean immensely.

edit: Bobby Cannavale is his name

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:17:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I digged that as well. Especially since Bobby Cannavale has played a totally bad guy so frequently.

That said, it just okay, and too sappy, and most of the jokes didn't land, and much of the action was weak for MCU standards.

Computer, load up CELERY MAN, please.

Felipe_O ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Gimme some hat wobble

SiriusC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:43 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was a condescending type of supportive.

lk6 ยท 1413 points ยท Posted at 01:59:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I def preferred this one over the first. Pena killed it. Rudd killed it. Park killed it

rhunter99 ยท 708 points ยท Posted at 04:40:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lily killed it

dorkf1sh ยท 840 points ยท Posted at 07:15:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And thanos snapped it.

rhunter99 ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 18:40:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Too soon

peanutbuttahcups ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 10:15:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Destiny still arrives.

cyborgnaes ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:37:22 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And Thanos freaked it

dontsniffglue ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:22:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Actually, the universe snaps in two

ionmushroom ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 01:42:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

agreed. i wasnt a fan of the first but the complete cast sold this one.

complete opposite of guardians 2 where it focused too much on father son issues, this one handled it much better

Cofishioner ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:31:37 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like Guardians 2 had great character development for everyone, between Gamora and Nebula, Yondu with his previous actions and with Peter, Rocket coming to terms with himself with Yondu, Mantis helping Drax find peace, Sean Gunn's character struggling with his loyalty, I think Guardians 2 had more real character development than the vast majority of Marvel movies.

Pastlife123 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:10:25 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Kate killed it... I mean Lilly

LordFairy ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:58:43 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can't believe I spent a better part of a summer binging that show.

Pastlife123 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:00:15 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I canโ€™t believe it took you this long to watch it.

LordFairy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:01:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"A" summer. This was many moons ago. =P But to be fair, I binged it when it was fully completed. So it did take me long to actually watch it.

Scottyflamingo ยท 1318 points ยท Posted at 02:43:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not gonna lie, I got a bit misty when Cassie said she meant that she wanted to be Scott's partner.

HenyrD ยท 883 points ยท Posted at 03:27:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Don't laugh! >:(" ๐Ÿ˜ญ

illmatic2112 ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 15:56:54 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I went 'awwwwww' cause that's something my neice would say

Big_h3aD ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 22:01:20 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly, the delivery of that line, that just wrecked me. Miss the little girl so much.

bloodflart ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 14:20:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

all the family stuff had me cryin

twisty77 ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 06:11:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m still kinda young and want to be a parent someday, and this movie made me want to have a badass little girl as a daughter

muhash14 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 19:14:28 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That got an audible aww out of me, and I don't aww.

workingfangirl ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:07:37 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The whole cinema I watched in did that too. <3

jrgolden42 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 11:21:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Stature for Avengers 4

prophetofgreed ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 13:30:06 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
pcechos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:03:50 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Question, does Cassie have shrinking/growing as like, a natural ability or is it through the use of a suit like Scott?

prophetofgreed ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:14:32 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pym particle exposure in her early life made it possible to grow to giant size without some sort of suit like Scott (she would wear a suit that would stretch with her size)

pcechos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:16:30 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh that's really cool! Has she been exposed to Pym Particles in the MCU? I haven't seen the first one in a looong time and can't seem to remember

prophetofgreed ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:26:32 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Inherently hanging around Scott after he uses the suit will expose people to Pym Particles. It's the frequency that makes it dangerous.

In the comics she directly exposed herself to Pym Particles to be more like her Dad and to be a hero like the people she lived with (she lived at Avengers Mansion)

In the first Ant-Man the first thing Scott does after returning from the Quantum Realm is hug Cassie.

Lordsokka ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:47:57 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well sheโ€™s like what 7? Maybe in 10 years, new/cool step-mommy can be The Wasp for a little while longer I think!

2SP00KY4ME ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:37:30 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A guy in the theater was crinkling a plastic bag insanely loudly and nonstop during that entire scene for me.

iheartsunrise04 ยท 1283 points ยท Posted at 04:48:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Goddamn, Janet can't get any break. She just got out then immediately erased from existence.

mr_popcorn ยท 585 points ยท Posted at 16:08:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think it was better for her that they all got "snapped" as a family. It'd just be plain cruel if say, Janet survived the snap and she lost Hank and Hope all over again. Or if both Hank and Hope survived and they lost Janet a second time. Its better this way.

iheartsunrise04 ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 17:05:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't even think about it that way. At least they all went, I guess.

MonoclePig ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 15:12:19 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But which order did they go?

fectic ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 03:17:38 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Based on the post credits scene, it was all at the same time.

CIearMind ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:32:49 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But Fury lasted longer than Hill.

qqtan36 ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 11:57:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A little off-topic, but if time doesn't exist in the quantum realm, then how in the world did Janet age so much?

dev1359 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 01:05:16 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was actually thinking aside from the gray hair she still looked damn good honestly.

AlecBaldwinner ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:55:27 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Aside from? To me, the hair only enhanced her beauty.

dev1359 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:38:24 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well I meant "aside" in terms of contributing to her aged look, not her attractiveness lol

AlecBaldwinner ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:54:56 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, right right right.

nuraHx ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:27:43 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We could just assume Scott was one of the lucky left to live

Blackbeard_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:48:43 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think it does exist for the shrunk things who are kind of like in a bubble.

thegimboid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:49:48 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It seems like it exists, but the person's perspective of it is messed up, so to them it seems like it's longer or shorter than it would to an outside observer.

HopefulList ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:13 on October 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

tanning

Draaxus ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:38:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That would be too good of an ending

If you ask me, that scene made the movie perfectly balanced.

dev1359 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:05:42 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As all things should be.

dev1359 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:02:15 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was honestly surprised all three of them got dusted. My prediction after watching Infinity War was that all of the characters would be in the Quantum Realm for the climax of this movie (explaining their whereabouts while Thanos's crew was fucking up New York), and either Hope or Hank would be the ones to get ethered while they're inside. Then they come back to the real world at the end where everything's gone to shit. What they ended up doing instead was way darker :(

iheartsunrise04 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:21:52 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not gonna lie, I thought it was the daughter that's going to be dusted. I never thought all of them would go

ContinentTurtle ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:19:05 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd hoped it would've been Scott and Hope, and Hank and Janet would assume the roles of Ant-man and the Wasp, one last time in Avengers 4. Their knowledge could contribute a lot, and I want to see Hank and Tony butting heads ๐Ÿ˜‚

T3Sh3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:34:47 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You mean DELETED

Spacyzoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:34:33 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You mean BALANCED

SlumberCat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:54 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dammit, Janet!

Bamres ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:12 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder if she'd be erased if she stayed in the quantum verse

ViceroyFizzlebottom ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:47:53 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She evolved in the quatum realm. Maybe that causes her to snap out of existence differently.

Prcrstntr ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 00:27:11 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There were three ash piles.

iheartsunrise04 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:43 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can't really use her magic fingers if she's a pile of ash

[deleted] ยท 2521 points ยท Posted at 02:08:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Do you guys just put the word quantum in front of everything?"

xitzengyigglz ยท 1202 points ยท Posted at 04:47:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That and the baseball hat/ sunglass rip were incredible.

RandomRageNet ยท 590 points ยท Posted at 16:13:46 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"We just look like ourselves at a baseball game."

waitingtodiesoon ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 03:20:12 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And hank and Hope pym got recognized still.

cleverhandle ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 16:13:40 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Made funnier by the fact his escape from jail costume was a FBI jacket with some sunglasses and and a hat.

flying_monkey_stick ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:52:29 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
hcoo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:46:10 on August 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And the colleague called him "Sir" lol

WhiteLightnin ยท 115 points ยท Posted at 05:06:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love the Deadpool-esque self aware jokes.

WhoryGilmore ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 20:44:32 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It really helps me looks past any inconsistencies in the movie

Ihaveanusername ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 06:35:25 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Which is funny, because that's how Captain America and Black Widow got away in Winter Soldier.

talldrseuss ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 01:52:34 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And I believe that's how they are all disguised in the beginning of Civil War when they're in Africa

ramonycajones ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:37:56 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And how Cap and Falcon disguised themselves in Civil War.

Bamres ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:49:25 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was suprised because that got less laughs in my theatre but it was the best joke to me

Jenga_Police ยท 128 points ยท Posted at 17:56:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I laughed out loud during the credits scene when they said "quantum healing particles".

Elcactus ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 20:18:37 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like to think that even they have no idea what they do besides "heal quantum realm-based problems", so they just name it what it does.

bloodflart ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 14:19:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"That's what I was gonna say"

RadioOnThe_TV ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 06:31:36 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"If we increase the quantum terrarium malforentofuge by disassociating the barametric clarity in relation to positron aggrevance it might work"

"Yeah, thats what I was thinking"

PhoenixPhighter4 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 03:27:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pym needs to go to r/iamverysmart

flying_monkey_stick ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:53:50 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Except everything he says is correct (in-universe) at least.

accpi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:25 on October 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, it's kind of a thing with a lot of geniuses in comic books. They're always right but they're always arrogant about it

KenuR ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:35:56 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He would be great in Cinema Sins

Aftermath16 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:19:11 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha. I kept waiting for him to put quantum in front of something ridiculous after that.

Johanson69 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:35:41 on July 27, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Study physics and went to see it with two fellow students. We had a grand time laughing our asses off.

MichaelEugeneLowrey ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:55:37 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
frydchiken333 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:50:32 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Asking the questions so the audience doesn't have to.

Havoc1899 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:01 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I noticed that too, but I don't know enough about the quantum mechanics and the like to say they are using the word quantum too much.

Drownthefish23 ยท 2271 points ยท Posted at 01:57:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loved Randall Park as the FBI agent

thosearecoolbeans ยท 1286 points ยท Posted at 05:04:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The recurring magic bits kept me rolling.

Doesn't matter if you live in a world where the Avengers exist, alien invasions are a weekly occurrence, and superheroes are popping up left and right all over the world. Magic is cool as hell.

Martel732 ยท 182 points ยท Posted at 07:05:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In a weird way it might make it cooler. In our world you think "that was a neat slight of hand". In the MCU you think "oh man did my friend gain superpowers?"

ChaosOS ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 23:18:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agents of Shield season 4 episode 3 had a bit where anti-inhuman militants thought a magician was powered

addy_g ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 00:51:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

that was because some idiot didnโ€™t know what sleight of hand was and said โ€œits this guy! he was doing crazy magic earlier that shouldnโ€™t be possible!โ€

mavajo ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:34:57 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, assuming I'm thinking of the right episode, I thought that guy did have powers? And he was using his powers as part of his act?

Sheikah_Benji ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:40:31 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If youโ€™re thinking of the fire guy, thatโ€™s a completely different episode.

ATLBMW ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 03:00:49 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The funniest bit in the movie was the recurring joke that only other grown men find the card tricks impressive. Cassie and Judy Greer didnโ€™t give a fuuuuuuuck

Elcactus ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:17:10 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wong probably feels validated reading this.

MyUsernameIsJudge ยท 608 points ยท Posted at 13:32:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's also a youth pastor.

madhjsp ยท 403 points ยท Posted at 12:06:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œIโ€™ve been fed a bunch of malarky!โ€

They did nail the youth pastor expressions for sure.

mooscoo ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 09:24:59 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"What the dickens?!"

Daahkness ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:39:29 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Son of a mother duck Yamanashi

Himu797 ยท 1118 points ยท Posted at 02:05:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I went in thinking he would be a unnecessary character. I was so wrong. He steals the show. Loved the whole dinner scene.

1337speak ยท 895 points ยท Posted at 03:26:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Paul Rudd and Randall Park being awkward is meant to be

MuffaloMan ยท 800 points ยท Posted at 22:46:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"How'dja do it, Scott?"

"Do what?"

"The card trick?"

Worthyness ยท 131 points ยท Posted at 06:46:03 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Want to get dinner?"

waitingtodiesoon ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:18:43 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I am free on

jouhn ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 06:20:39 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

P.R. and R.P. play so well off of each other.

iamgarron ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:21:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like it should be an I love you man sequel with them two now

dibidi ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 11:04:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

they really should to the jimmy woo and the agents of atlas movie now

ARflash ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:14:31 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He is kinda famous character from comics. He has some small fan following because of "agent of Atlas " series.

stuff_rulz ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 04:14:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved his character and I felt like it was such a relatable character. Even though he's this FBI captain guy or whatever, he's still like "How'd you do that????" and running in to thwart the bad guy (Antman), only for it to blow up in his face as he's sitting there playing Rock Band, the social awkwardness. This guy is like a more successful version of me lol.

wadech ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 03:21:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

His FBI title would probably be supervisory special agent.

dagreenman18 ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 17:29:45 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie is stacked with โ€œGreat in everythingโ€ guys

Randall Park

Bobby Cannavale

Walton Goggins

Michael Pena

Judy Greer

And of course Paul Rudd

barelyonhere ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 05:38:48 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You mean Jim from The Office?

fprosk ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 23:16:24 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

John Krasinski should just change his name to Jim Fromtheoffice

ThePresidentsRubies ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:29:39 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have a hard time separating him from that role, but Iโ€™m excited to see him play Jack Ryan.

fattyboomsticks ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:50:32 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, no thats John Krasinski.

tta2013 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:15:34 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey, hats off to you for not seeing race.

DMPunk ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 05:34:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As a fan of comic Jimmy Woo, I was a little disappointed by him. He was hilarious, but I got really excited with Randall Park being cast because it was a good character and a good actor and it just wound up being comic relief.

Worthyness ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 06:47:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well they only show him being a people manager. For all we know he could legitimately be a badass field agent. He was just 1 step behind Scott every time though

EsQuiteMexican ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 22:55:47 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe he'll be the Coulson of Phase 4.

pcechos ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:06:10 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, he could still be a badass field agent but just a bit of a goofball. It's not too late.

jrgolden42 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:19:20 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For sure. I'm pretty sure hes second to Cap in terms of character creation date in the films. I hope he shows up in other films

mikeweasy ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 05:21:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Kim Jong Un LOL.

wadech ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:22:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I remember The Interview.

mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Indeed

sharkbaitooaha ยท 1012 points ยท Posted at 20:39:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely love Scottโ€™s relationship with his ex wife and her husband. Itโ€™s refreshing to see some love and respect there when so often divorced couples in film are bitter and cruel.

beefytrout ยท 293 points ยท Posted at 21:12:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Bobby Cannavale plays his part perfectly.

HellsNels ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 06:59:16 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s weird seeming him in stuff after Mr. Robot. Heโ€™s a legit chameleon.

oheysup ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:49:30 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He won an Emmy for his performance in boardwalk empire and it's very weird seeing him in anything after that

Big_h3aD ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:05:09 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, he's in Mr. Robot too? Had to stop, great fucking show, but damn season 2 had me thoroughly depressed, but maybe I'll give it another shot.

TheTruckWashChannel ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:12:32 on July 31, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Season 3 is the best one, answers a lot of questions after the thoroughly confusing season 2

Shortstop88 ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 05:54:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A few divorced couples being cool while the majority are bitter. Seems pretty true to form in my experience.

TrendWarrior101 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:42:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Most movies are unfortunately like that nowadays. That's what I love about this movie.

strahag ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:25:40 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Excuse me have you even SEEN The Santa Clause 2?

sharkbaitooaha ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 12:33:04 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

LOL fucking Neil and his sweaters

fede01_8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:39:32 on October 30, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good, christian values, eh?

socraticmethod88 ยท 2045 points ยท Posted at 02:27:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott seemed to justify his choice to invite Luis to the lab by referring to how difficult it is for ex cons to find work. I like that convicts are our heroes in Ant-Man to prove people are redeemable

words_words_words_ ยท 1047 points ยท Posted at 06:35:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hopefully Ghost continues that trend as well. Ava was awesome.

bloodflart ยท 609 points ยท Posted at 14:20:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love her powers, same with Antman/wasps. So cinematic

scarleteagle ยท 355 points ยท Posted at 03:56:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They really used this movie as a vehicle to showcase how cinematic their powerset is. I feel like they've definitely come a long way in terms of justifying the characters to audiences.

Worthyness ยท 129 points ยท Posted at 06:57:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I will always remember that time where people didn't like shrinky powers because it felt gimmicky. But his powers are really unique compared to most of the other avengers. The other avengers either have energy beams or smash stuff with their fist/weapon.

cerebrus21 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 01:52:16 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When they first announced antman I couldn't think of any way they could pull it off and be of the same caliber of films they release. They actually made the shrinking and growing work well by showing the flash of the sizes during changing. And then Antman 2 expanded so much on the first movie so much, they're establishing a 5 member ant team with similarities and vast differences.

GoTron88 ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 18:18:54 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Right? Also see: Domino in Deadpool. Who would have thought good luck as a super power could be so cinematic?

wildontherun ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 18:38:37 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Domino was my favorite part of DP2! Love to see the world make itself work for her

Boxy310 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:18:38 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would be really surprised if they didn't do a Domino solo movie. Hell, it might even get made before Black Widow.

2SP00KY4ME ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 05:39:55 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not to mention finally getting better villains than "Iron Man, but evil iron man." Ant Man, but evil Ant Man. Hulk, but evil Hulk. It was such an annoying trend to have unoriginal and irredeemable enemies.

-I_am- ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:12:30 on August 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man, but evil Ant-Man? Strange, but evil Strange?

It's still there, and it's one of Feige's tricks - less time to set up the villain gives more room for the hero, at least in the origin movie.

It has its pros and cons. Cons being that a lot of their origin movies feel repetitive and unoriginal. What I can't stand is when sequels keep following the same trend (IM2, evil Iron Man again).

justonecomic ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:31:03 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd argue they still have a lot of room to grow, but I agree that it has gotten way better in general.

The_R3medy ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 02:48:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah! The quantum effects were absolutely stellar!

ThePresidentsRubies ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 01:32:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Coolest costume ever imo. Looks like a hunter from Destiny

Lordsokka ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:49:40 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Aaahhh thank you! Itโ€™s been bugging me for the past few hours, I was like where the hell have I seen this!? Itโ€™s shame she didnโ€™t have a cape and some kind of phase sword!

Hopefully we can see her control her powers in a sequel.

waitingtodiesoon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:24:07 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would love to see a ghost from starcraft like that. I was thinking more of a ghost except for the mask design

endmoor ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:18:42 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's kind of uncanny how similar she looked to Destiny's Hunters. Loved the getup.

tundrat ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 09:35:05 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The next time she would appear, Iโ€™m unsure if Iโ€™m supposed to expect stabilized powers or just all cured and removed.

BeavMcloud ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 23:07:47 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Considering they were getting magic healing particles for her, I'd say stabilized powers but she needs to heal after fights.

FGHIK ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 23:18:12 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd definitely love to see her as a hero. She's in a similar spot to Winter Soldier with having been an assassin, so it makes sense she could want to make amends, especially if Goliath guides her in that direction. And she has some cool powers. Presumably Janet didn't take them away by curing her, she just stabilized her/stopped the pain.

blitzbom ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 03:46:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She was one of the most relatable villians they've had. I loved it.

jaytoddz ยท 160 points ยท Posted at 06:31:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She wasn't even a villain to me, just the antagonist.

thanlong90 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:14:17 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Get out of here

muhash14 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:13:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I cant believe you've done this.

thanlong90 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:14:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Get out of here

Vranak ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 12:18:41 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

she's like, intensely beautiful after Scott wakes up in her lair. I'm like wow, I didn't know a human could be so... with it, so woke.

words_words_words_ ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 12:20:49 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, and she was so sweet and soft spoken to him at the beginning. Loved her

freshestpr1nce ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:12:20 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think she might be the one to pull Scott out of the Quantum Realm

trumpet_23 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:17:06 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love that actress on Killjoys, so I was really excited to see her in this. The fact that she not only survived, but was also a sympathetic antagonist, made it even better!

SwaggersaurusWrecks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:30:13 on July 30, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe she's the key to beating Thanos!

Canvaverbalist ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 23:05:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well I mean he was in prison "because he did the good thing" so it's easy to relate to.

Shortstop88 ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 05:26:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, he was a thief before he did the good thing.

Worthyness ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:58:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also still a thief. Just using it for justice!

Kittens4Brunch ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:48:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And stole our hearts.

RobDaGinger ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 01:52:49 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was also kind of an annoying part of the movie. That Scott was just trying to get off house arrest and run a business but Hank and Hope wouldnโ€™t let him and he kept on having to justify not throwing his own life away only for them to not have sympathy.

Scott and the others are genuinely good guys and yet were repeatedly treated like trash. Iโ€™m glad it wrapped up happily but I was annoyed with Hank and Hope during the movie.

TheSuperSunBro ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 02:50:14 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think it was honestly out of spite. They're selfish, but also have nothing else to really live for atm due to the horrible situation Scott helped place them in. They were out of time, patience, and sympathy.

Lordsokka ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 02:52:55 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair they only had a limited time to find mom, you can cut them some slack. Most people who only had a day to save a loved one would desperate and selfish.

That doesnโ€™t make them bad people, it just makes them human. Obviously Hope likes/loves Scott and Hank is fond of him in the sense that he will respect the man his daughter is seeing.

Phillip_Spidermen ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:28:11 on October 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, they were only on the run because Scott took the suit to help Captain America without asking them.

Swisskisses ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:48:02 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

LITERALLY A LIFE PEEVE!!! how terribly we treat people that were once imprisoned. I would love to write a fun, happy comedy that goes a little deeper into the inconveniences of being an ex-con

qqtan36 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 11:56:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This was also a reference to the first movie, when Luis says the same thing to Hank at the beginning.

moneylatem ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:36:14 on August 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What about Gunn ... ;(

socraticmethod88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:44 on August 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mixed messages ๐Ÿ˜“

dztruthseek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:37 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Unless you're Eric O'Grady

DennisCherryPopper ยท 919 points ยท Posted at 03:16:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damnit Hank. That beach house ain't gonna have plumbing

Tvayumat ยท 471 points ยท Posted at 02:28:17 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought this, then realized he probably designed the place using super science to be totally self contained.

muhash14 ยท 203 points ยท Posted at 19:28:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The sewage drains directly into the Quantum Realm.

Tvayumat ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 19:36:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Turns out the reason gravity is so weak is that Pym has been filling the space between atoms with literal shit.

I'd watch it.

muhash14 ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 19:51:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But imagine if he messed up the sewage so it accidentally drained into the Dark Dimension instead of the Quantum Realm, and he's been accidentally shitting on Dormammu this entire time.

Hank "Im gonna put some dirt in your eye" Pym.

FGHIK ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:27:12 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're trash, Dormammu. Your dimension's a dump!

DoritoMussolini86 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:12:31 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Dormammu, I've come to bar- dear god what is that smell?"

Tvayumat ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:44:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is rapidly becoming my new headcanon.

MemeInBlack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:31 on December 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So that's what dark matter is!

pongjinn ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 03:05:03 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you, that was bothering me too. New headcanon

dawkholiday ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:01:30 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe he takes it down into small size when he leaves it every day

Megaman1981 ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 04:43:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And that probably wasn't a solid or level foundation. That house is going to creak like crazy. And those cracks in the wall and ceiling.

thrwwyforpmingnudes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:37 on October 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

the whole thing would fall apart dude

the_infinite ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 20:51:14 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's Pym Particles, I ain't gotta explain shit

muhash14 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:28:53 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't put your dick in the quantum realm.

AkiZayoi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:21 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Getter Rays?

mikeweasy ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 05:00:37 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thats exactly what I was thinking LOL. Have fun pissing in a bucket.

dagreenman18 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:02:45 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I figured he resolved the electric problem (he managed to power a portable building without a grid after all), but I have no idea how you solve the plumbing issue. Unless he shrinks the waste to tiny size and fills a tiny septic tank

Artector42 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 08:43:08 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, the lab seemed to just be running on enlarged batteries, you can see duracells in the background. I don't think plumbing is much of an issue.

Vranak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:24 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You could have a stout little pipe just draining off the edge directly onto the sand. Would be pretty nasty without a water source to get it moving down to the ocean, but you can dig a ditch and try to get the waves to take some of it away. Which would seriously threaten the house whenever the tide comes in.

Yeah there's no way this works without fresh water coming into the house. So put it near a stream coming off the bluffs!

neuromorph ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 03:41:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Poop in the ocean,man. Like God intended

AlvinItchyCock ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 05:34:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Send the shit to the quantum realm.

Bamres ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:28:41 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shrink da poo poo, bring giant water tanks the size of tic tacs

P1NR ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:24:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

LOL i'm glad I was not the only one thinking this

TheUltimateTeigu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:20 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shrink that shit. Literally.

Purplepnurple ยท 882 points ยท Posted at 04:22:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man what a happy ending, Scott gets to have a new partner, his family back, and a bunch of loving friends. Everyone's storylines get resolved in a happy manner. Even ghost and bill realize they're family at the end.

To get fucked by that end credit scene.

Bitey_the_Squirrel ยท 280 points ยท Posted at 06:28:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The ending was perfectly balanced

anakinfan8 ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 18:41:01 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

...as all things should be :(

Spacyzoo ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 03:43:23 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You may think this is suffering, but no it is salvation, for even in death they have become children of Thanos!

asher1611 ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 02:25:38 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Like Thor Ragnarok. Except for that whole prophecy business.

SparkyMuffin ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 23:12:59 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey man, even with Thor: Ragnarok, we had that slight hope of "maybe it was actually the Guardians of the Galaxy."

No hope here, only dust

Digitalmonster7068 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 02:57:09 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Actually, Hope turned into dust. Hahahahaha

I'm not funny

MurderousPaper ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:05:20 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s probably the most wholesome and most bow-on-top ending weโ€™ve had in a marvel movie in recent years. I hated it because I knew they had to acknowledge the Snap sooner or later, it was just this growing sense of dread until that first post-credits scene.

dont_worry_im_here ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:28:57 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was the post-credit scene filmed before or after the writers of Ant Man knew how Infinity War would end? And did they have to consult the writers of Avengers 4 with what they were doing in the post-credit scene?

kjm6351 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:23:43 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Such is fate when your movie is set to take place just a couple days before Infinity War... :(

chetoflep ยท 3734 points ยท Posted at 04:29:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The way the actors lip-sync to Luis (Peรฑas) story time is amazing. Expressions and all. Edit: รฑ

bloodflart ยท 1752 points ยท Posted at 14:02:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

his long hair in the prison scene haha

[deleted] ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 12:43:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mexican with a Jheri Curl was ridiculous lol I loved it

MuffaloMan ยท 1172 points ยท Posted at 22:48:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lily's lip-sync was legendary

darkeyes13 ยท 1120 points ยท Posted at 06:47:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Look at my hair. It means I'm all Business."

kewya66 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 03:06:36 on October 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Her neck roll as she delivered the line made it!

mocha_dick ยท 138 points ยท Posted at 01:13:40 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She was the best lip-sync, of all the lip-syncs.

DrHorrible10 ยท 524 points ยท Posted at 06:53:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you love that, check out Drunk History. Basically the same thing but with drunk historians/actors/comedians telling true stories ๐Ÿ˜Š

HooptyDooDooMeister ยท 112 points ยท Posted at 04:55:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Alcohol is a sort of truth serum.

JargonX ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 05:43:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s not a truth serum.

PM-ME-WEIRD-FACTS ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 19:01:06 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s a serum that makes you obedient

keyree ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 23:54:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You and my gf are clearly drinking very different alcohol. "Hey get in the car, we're going home" "Hey don't tell me what to do"

Flashman420 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 15:59:24 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

OMG I always forget about that show. I remember it being pretty hit or miss though. Episodes were either riotously hilarious or pretty boring.

expateli ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:18:47 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was my favorite drunk history episode besides the Alamo one.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 10:31:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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tregorman ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:27:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The first Kid History came out in 2011, Drunk History was created in 2007

Howzieky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:18:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Crud, I even checked the dates. Google said 2013, sorry :(

OilyBobbyFl4y ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:04:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That may be the date for the Comedy Central show. It was on Funny Or Die before that

Howzieky ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:07:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's probably it. Dang it. Sorry for coming across like a jerk, the video is still really funny if you've got time to watch it. Just look up kid history some time

WhiteSquarez ยท 169 points ยท Posted at 13:02:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For me, this is honestly the best part of both movies.

I would love to see them do this in Avengers IV. Can you imagine Pena doing a scene and Drax, Rocket, Dr. Strange, and Captain America participating in something like that? It would be hilarious.

Twonibrow ยท 133 points ยท Posted at 19:59:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I hoped so hard that when Luis was recapping, heโ€™d cover the Germany battle a little bit so we could get a quick cameo from other Avengers recreating some stuff from then but lip syncing to Pena

WhiteSquarez ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 20:33:03 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah!

Come to think of it, I can't remember any cameos in this one.

[deleted] ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 23:26:23 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well all the Avengers were busy with the whole Thanos thing.

toxicbrew ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 23:56:00 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Only the last part was during the Thanos thing. Previous stuff could have been months earlier

808sAndPoundcake ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:48:27 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Stan Lee, but other than that nothing

MillardKillmoore ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 00:57:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They should use Luis to recap previous movies as the MCU equivalent of the Star Wars text crawl.

WhiteSquarez ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 01:26:20 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Make it a post-credit scene. It would be the best one of ALL TIME.

Link2Sora ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:08:23 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

At comic con last year they had Michael Pena and Paul Rudd. I just wish they would release it so that they rest of us could see it.

Shifter25 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:59:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos though.

Winston_Road ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:08:39 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But it's only Josh Brolin painted in purple and with a bald cap.

WhiteSquarez ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:24:17 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Okay, add him, too.

mikeweasy ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 05:21:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just loved seeing Lilly lipsynch.

Worthyness ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 06:21:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't know how they could top the first one, but this one is was pretty damn good.

JumpinJack2 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 06:39:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was easily my favorite scene in a Marvel film to date.

SpiderRealm ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:09:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That prison scene was amazing! I hope there'll be a clip of that on youtube soon, I need to watch it about a thousand more times! xD

blaZken ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:24:15 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Imagine avengers 4 with his cameo explanation, and you have Thanos lip-syncing to Penas voice. One can dream.

WordofGabb ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:16:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just wish there was a Hawkeye cameo during that scene when he picked up Scott. I was kinda expecting it, but no dice.

wick34 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:38:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the footage may have been sped up slightly, and then the speed was further adjusted so it synced exactly right. It was really good lipsyncing.

Ubarlight ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:33:10 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You could tell that not only does he love to do it, everyone else loves to do it as well.

Squeezycakes17 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:05:47 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i really love this feature of the Ant-Man films, whoever came up with it is a damn genius

DoctorHalloween ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like to pretend that Pena is playing his character from โ€œObserve & Reportโ€ in the โ€œAnt-Manโ€ movies.

BattlinBud ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:54:57 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's like Drunk History, but sober and really fast.

FatLever12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:23 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love it. Drunk history does this so well.

[deleted] ยท 3503 points ยท Posted at 02:22:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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1337speak ยท 1277 points ยท Posted at 03:11:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The ant jamming out at the end made it a little better... :'(

MuffaloMan ยท 979 points ยท Posted at 22:50:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not with that public warning screech on the TV. That gave me shivers.

supersmileys ยท 157 points ยท Posted at 13:06:01 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Those always give me the absolute heebie jeebies.

devilslaughters ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 08:53:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They're supposed to.

dev1359 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 01:06:53 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I always wonder if I'm about to get vaporized when that thing comes on the radio. Lol

CashOverAss ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:05:51 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I caught that too but did you notice exactly what it said?

Fuck_love_inthebutt ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 04:56:56 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Something about how it's not a test?

CashOverAss ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 17:39:34 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yea. Makes sense. Probably the pretty standard message but I'm excited to reread it to see if there's anything more specific or anything.

rrr598 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:06:54 on September 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wanna make your cataclysm just that liiittle bit more horrible? Throw in a sound that every human alive associates with โ€œoh fuck noโ€

I_am_BEOWULF ยท 729 points ยท Posted at 01:37:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Until you realize that the ant was just going through the motions of mimicking Scott's daily routine... in a desolated, post-snap Earth.

muhash14 ยท 155 points ยท Posted at 19:15:44 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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the-red-wheelbarrow ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 22:59:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah kinda reminds me of the Bradbury story about the smart home that keeps running after the humans nuke themselves

hemareddit ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:38:45 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There will come soft rains and the smell of the ground,

And swallows circling with their shimmering sound;

And frogs in the pools singing at night,

And wild plum-trees in tremulous white;

Robins will wear their feathery fire

Whistling their whims on a low fence-wire;

And not one will know of the war, not one

Will care at last when it is done.

Not one would mind, neither bird nor tree

If mankind perished utterly;

And Spring herself, when she woke at dawn,

Would scarcely know that we were gone.

BattlinBud ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 13:56:21 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, to me that ant scene was the biggest fuck-you of an after-credit scene since Cap in Spider-Man Homecoming.

_TheRedKing_ ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 05:50:30 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Ant Man and the wasp will return?"

zackogenic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:22 on August 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why was it though? There was no more reason to do that.

MoreGull ยท 330 points ยท Posted at 03:43:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If I was Scott, I'd form an all ant band and sit back and collect the billions of dollars they'd make.

dontletmepost ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 18:06:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd build a park for giant ants that has key flaws in its security system and then send starlord to take care of them

FOX_SMOLDER ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 05:23:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you were Scott youโ€™d be stuck in the quantum realm

Nobilibang ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:13:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Alien Ant Farm?

tangledupinbetween ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:28:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

smooth

ZBTLegion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:16:39 on August 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

criminal

sabjsc ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:36:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You could call it an Ant-Band

CallMeJono ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:50:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No he would part of the band slapping the bass.

theimmortalcrab ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:43:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

IIf I was Scott, I'd unfortunately be stuck in the quantum realm :(

Martel732 ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 07:07:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought the Ant-jamming scene had it's on slight bit of horror to it. The Television with nothing but an emergency broadcast message playing. Clearly the world is falling apart.

leeloo200 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:07:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Right? Definitely a "Twilight Zone" vibe.

ThatOtherDude1817 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:09:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Then the "Antman and the Wasp will return?" fucked me up

Needtogetbigger ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 06:11:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Besides the fact that the national emergency signal was playing on the tv

nyan_swanson ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:36:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought weโ€™d see the ant get dusted too

SomaliRection ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 01:27:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think my heart may have broken if Ulysses S. GrANT had been removed by the Snapture

Needtogetbigger ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:12:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't he die earlier though?

69party69 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 11:15:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah that was ANTonio Banderas

zex-258 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:22 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honest question, does the snap affect all lives in the universe, including animals and ants, or just humans and other "intelligent" life forms in the universe?

nyan_swanson ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:26:42 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™ve thought about this too, and honestly I have no idea. If Thanos wanted to wipe out half of all life forms because thereโ€™s not enough resources to support the growing population, then wouldnโ€™t that get rid of like all the plants and animals too? aka, the resources there wasnโ€™t enough of?

haildecoysnail ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:52:44 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Imagine seeing you dog turn into dust.

zex-258 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:52:11 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why man, why...

xXxGAZBROxXx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:26:47 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In an interview, the director of Infinity War confirmed it was *all* life. Which is a little odd and not well thought-out from Thanos' part, since plants and animals could be considered a natural resource for civilizations.

cysenberg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:04:20 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is Lang gonna go into the mind of the ant and control it like Michelle Pfeiffer did?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:04:26 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm just angry they had that in the trailers.

JumpinJack2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can't help but feel that he'll lend a hand in getting Scott back.

evetsleep ยท 696 points ยท Posted at 14:16:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The post-credits are actually what gave us hope if you listened to what was said just before he went in. "Look out for time vortexes". Soon as I heard that I knew we're going the time travel route to fix things.

pockygiant ยท 263 points ยท Posted at 05:25:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Like travel to the 90โ€™s perhaps..........

Doip ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 05:38:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Avengers First Class hype train, boards here.

JumpinJack2 ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 06:38:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the gist is that we have an avenue for Captain Marvel to join the gang.

dem0nhunter ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 23:17:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We already do. Fury isnโ€™t paging someone during a code red situation he doesnโ€™t know about being available or not

varnums1666 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:35:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

HISHE Darth Sidious was right.

PM-ME-WEIRD-FACTS ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:04:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But... that was literally the post credit scene from IW... but with Palps and Pool

ThatWasFred ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:02:37 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He meant what Palpatine said in the Infinity War prediction video that HISHE made.

NichaelBluth ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:04:18 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, this is where Captain Marvel will come into play.

2SP00KY4ME ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:42:03 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not necessarily. There's also a movie Paul watches near the beginning where a guy says "An entire universe could be contained within one molecule." That's a pretty big hint for multiverse.

straub42 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:21:39 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Animal House!

Fools_Requiem ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 19:59:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Explains the on set pictures with him alongside the original Avengers in what looked like the Battle of New York.

chicken4286 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:47:52 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What pictures?

OK_Soda ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:28:22 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man, I heard the line but I didn't even connect that.

Elcactus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:22:47 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That seems really lame. The Gauntlet has the time stone in it, beating the infinity gauntlet with anything but the infinity gauntlet will seem anticlimactic.

Interbrett ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:38 on October 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hope there is some back to the future type tropes..

Daedalus871 ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 02:39:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Intro to Avengers 4:

Antman: What the hell is going on?

Fumbles around with his belt, eventually growing back to normal size

Antman: What happ...

Looks around and sees no trace

Sirens in the distance

Antman: Cassie

Dramatic car driving through chaos. Stops outside his ex-wife's house. Antman bursts through the door.

Antman: Cassie! Cassie!

Sees two piles of ashes and some shattered dinner plates on the floor.

Antman: Cassie.

Paxton (visibly traumatized): I don't know what happened. They're just gone. sobbing

Papatheodorou ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 03:55:22 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck you.

I mean, this is great and should happen, but fuck you for suggesting it :(

Daedalus871 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:49:44 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Intro to Avengers 4:

Antman: What the hell is going on?

Fumbles around with his belt, eventually growing back to normal size

Antman: What happ...

Looks around and sees no trace

Sirens in the distance

Antman: Cassie

Dramatic car driving through chaos. Stops outside his ex-wife's house. Antman bursts through the door.

Antman: Cassie! Cassie!

Sees two piles of ashes and some shattered dinner plates on the floor.

Antman: Cassie.

Antman turns and sees Cassie

Antman: Cassie! I'm so glad you're okay!

Cassie: ...

Antman continues to get Cassie to say something, but she remains unresponsive; hollowed by watching her mom and stepdad turn to ash before her eyes.

Better?

Thoraxe123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well there's also been some speculation that when Thanos snap his fingers he also altered reality making it so no one would even remember the people who disappeared. If this were the case, it would mean AntMan would be the only person who remembered anyone pre-snap. Interesting theory imo

Aftermath16 ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 07:24:43 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How is that possible? We saw the Avengers reacting to the fact that others had vanished. Why would Captain America have said โ€œOh godโ€ if he had just forgotten about everyone?

Thoraxe123 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who knows, maybe memory loss happens after the fact. I didn't say it was a perfect theory. Would be cool none the less.

jobrialg ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:59:04 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There was an emergency broadcast on the TV screen during the after credit scene so people must have remembered the snapped

Daedalus871 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How's that theory work?

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:05:44 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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delphinhugi ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:47:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This kid movie sure does have alot of dark themes, you know, just some torture, manual genocide of half of the population, more torture, watching a beloved character being brutally choked to death and another one getting stabbed and killed, watching all your favorite super heroes all fade into dust while the rest are left to watch in horror, then watching the aftermath of half the population being killed off.

PM-ME-WEIRD-FACTS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:28 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Youโ€™re right, didnโ€™t really think it through

delphinhugi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:06:09 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha, it's all good my dude

Thoraxe123 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 06:08:43 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What a bomb they dropped. They set the tone early on to be a fun jokey film that didn't take itself too seriously. And just when you forgot all about infinity war, BOOM. Completely shattered everything.

Not to mention the ominous emergency broadcast in the background of the ant playing the drums. Eerie.

That reveal alone brought my rating of the movie from a 7/10 to an 8/10

PunyParker826 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 22:36:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was a great twist, but I donโ€™t like what it implies. So aliens have been actively invading Earth from multiple locations for something like a full day, with fuckinโ€™ Death Wheels rolling through Times Square and skyscraper-sized siege machines in Africa, and all of you arenโ€™t permanently glued to the news channel? Maybe even trying to help?

dontletmepost ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 22:40:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They're with fugitives, I'd assume they were off the grid

Also do we know the actual timeline for the attack? We sure it wasn't just a couple hours?

TheImpLaughs ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:09:51 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agents of SHIELD showed it going on for what seems to be a day on Earth when they attack. Infinity War likely takes place over a day and a half, maybe two.

neeesus ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 01:02:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

NY battle with Tony Stark involved, Hank Pym could care less. He'd actively attempt to not talk about it. Plus that ship hit the planet, Tony and Peter fly up and no one else knows the difference.

Crisis averted.

Wakanda invaded but still under the hidden camoflage to the world.

Plus they went in to harvest at a specific time. The Pyms moved to Hawaii, then they had to sneak back to SF and do their mission extremely fast.

TheOrangeShyGuy ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 01:29:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean when Iron Man was battling against the aliens and later disappeared, people would assume the crisis was gone. Only the avengers knew about Thanos and his plan, there would be no reason to suspect more was coming. Then for the Africa attack, well remember that Wakanda is still hidden from people. They may have branched out, but as seen in IW when Cap enters Wakanda, they're still very much invisible. All the other attacks took place in space, so there was no reason to believe anything else would happen.

I_am_BEOWULF ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:44:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

People are probably accustomed to news of devastation at this point - after Chitauri NY, Shield Downfall at Washington, the Fall of Sokovia, the clash in Germany and the Vulture failed hijacking and crash - they're all probably assuming heroes were involved and with the Accords in place, already being taken care of. Another clash in NY with Iron Man, an Accord signee, is probably run of the mill at this point. Kinda like school shootings.

bananas21 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:13:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And cars crashing into pedestrians

TheWolfmanZ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:10:35 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget about an alien spaceship that crashed into the Chicago skyline. Killing many and breaking people's legs

Cheese_For_Trade ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:44:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

booshmang ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:34:28 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hello darkness my old friend...

peanutbuttahcups ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:18:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Literally how I felt. Goes to show the scale of Thanos' effect on the universe.

LavastormSW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:09 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly my reactions.

Vranak ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:08 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

glad I didn't stick around then! Unlike Thor Ragnorok where the end credits were compelling and exciting with a riveting track going, these ones were hum-drum and ordinary. I walked out after ninety seconds, I couldn't be bothered. I gave then a shot, two shots, three shots, but alas, I just could not do it. Glad I didn't given the Thanos issue!

The_Essential_Thrust ยท 2013 points ยท Posted at 02:02:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Really loved that there was no huge threat, like the quantum realm was going to swallow the city or anything like that. Just a family desparate to reunite, a young woman so afraid of dying she'd do anything to stop it (but still be talked down from hurting a little girl), and a well meaning fellow who just wants to do right by everyone he cares about. Was suprised Hank, Hope, and Janet getting dusted, thought they'ed need at least one of them to help the Avengers in A4.

wiseguy149 ยท 1148 points ยท Posted at 19:01:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And even Walton Goggins just wanted to steal it so he could sell it. When his crew confronted Luis and the gang, they didn't hurt then at all, just used truth serum, and then just left them completely fine when they got what they wanted.

The villains were downright wholesome in this movie compared to other MCU entries. The stakes were more personal, and that made it compelling.

confused_chopstick ยท 703 points ยท Posted at 19:00:47 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know, man, the baddie committed a bunch of health code violations in his restaurant...some of them unspeakable. That's pretty unwholesome in my book.

JonnTheMartian ยท 249 points ยท Posted at 21:13:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And then he said โ€œsome of them will shock youโ€ and I thought he was a buzzfeed writer or something

livefreeordont ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 02:16:03 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The worst crime of all

Reddituser1610 ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 08:29:23 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also they were about to kill Pena's character at the end until the Ex-cons showed up. Even more un-wholesome.

ladyrockess ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:44:18 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My boyfriend is the GM of a restaurant and he nearly slid out of his seat laughing at that point. I loved it!

jacobs0n ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 14:48:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

just used truth serum, and then just left them completely fine when they got what they wanted

well, to be fair, if ghost hadn't showed up they probably would've killed them

barooboodoo ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 05:41:10 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ghost

You mean baba yaga?

[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 12:52:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

..was it truth serum though?..

WonTonsOG ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 15:32:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s not truth serum!

toastycheeze ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 14:03:16 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

injects serum to /u/WonTonsOG

WonTonsOG ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 14:07:55 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Gasps

It is truth serum

manusiasetrika ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 14:52:24 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's no such things as truth serum, it only exists in movie

DooRagtime ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:18:09 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It does exist, it just doesn't make you tell the truth. It heavily reduces your inhibitions, making you susceptible to giving out a lot of information if asked misdirecting questions

2SP00KY4ME ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 07:35:11 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

then just left them completely fine when they got what they wanted.

Except for when they went to literally shoot Luis and only got stopped just in time.

MurderousPaper ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:50:06 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Perfect follow up after Infinity War IMO, scope-wise I mean.

Swisskisses ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:50:39 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Your comment may have just been one of the most important lessons in screen writing

Hindumaliman ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:14:01 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And...wow NOBODY DIED! ...sorta

hemareddit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:20:33 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Outside the post-credit scene, the one time when someone could likely die was when Ghost enlarged the building in the middle of the street.

Vranak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:49:13 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was quite anxious about what might befall Ghost in the last half-hour. I was like, please do not kill her, you can't do that, she's genuinely amazing.

hemareddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:16 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One of his crew literally said they killed a lot of people, and you know he wasnโ€™t lying cos they give him the truth serum.

Voodoo_Soviet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:13 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Goggins looked like he was wearing vaneers.

SirKnightCourtJester ยท 150 points ยท Posted at 05:59:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wish Hank and Janet were around just so we can finally have all the OG Avengers.

Worthyness ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 06:51:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or have Hope there. Then when they time jump, they'd have ant-man and the wasp in the original Avengers timeline.

Khal-Stevo ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 19:05:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My favorite part of both Ant Mans was how small (pun intended) the stakes end up being at the end. The first one had kind of a save the world feel for a while but the final fight was just Yellowjacket in a grudge match with Scott. This one never had any save the world feel at all and it was all the better for it. Hopefully the Spidey movies continue to do it similarly

dafood48 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 02:22:11 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Personal stakes grudge matches are the best.

merry722 ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 05:10:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just the neighborhood hero trying to stop this truck from hitting people. It is a great relief .

Bitey_the_Squirrel ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 06:14:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And then taking off on it like a scooter

rpwel ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 16:00:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No sky beam 0/10

Leo_TheLurker ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:16:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved the lowkey-ness of the movie. The stakes were small and just really focused on the hero. I feel like too many of the Marvel movies are too end of the world so its nice to get the small scale movies nowadays.

SiriusC ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:49:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This was my immediate takeaway. Infinity War was such an overwhelming experience (in a good way). This film was the perfect breath of fresh air after that while still having such an engaging story.

RadioOnThe_TV ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:36:15 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like Ghost's plans with his daughter could have been fine. Like she should have told Morephus... what? We'll just grab her for a bit and tell Scott we are going to hurt her, but obviously never hurt her at all. Take her to the movies or something. Clearly not ideal but if I was fading away into nothingness id do it.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:17:22 on October 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

so I saw it today. I felt the same way. halfway in the movie im like wait is this the plot? is this the bad guy? NOT in a bad way but just because im used to something else

The_RTV ยท 2551 points ยท Posted at 02:43:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My two favorite scenes are when

  • Luis complemented Hope and she responded with "Thanks man..." and when
  • Peanut said she wanted to be her dad's partner, he laughs, and she responds with "Don't laugh." Pulling my fucking heart strings
beefytrout ยท 2054 points ยท Posted at 02:45:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That little girl sold the hell out of that line.

The_RTV ยท 700 points ยท Posted at 02:47:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was such a good low-key moment

Worthyness ยท 454 points ยท Posted at 06:37:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

All the Scott + cassie scenes were amazing. She's adorable and Scott is a great dad.

I'm hoping when she's older, she can become her comic book counterpart, Stature, when a "young avengers" movie comes out.

EFG ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 16:57:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You know they're building towards that.

hagagaag ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 00:42:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently there's a casting call for a 16 year old actress to play her in avengers 4, so we are definitely gonna see stature there

SteezVanNoten ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 03:07:23 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nooo I'm gonna miss that little girl actor. She is freaking adorable T.T

hagagaag ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 12:17:53 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, it's pretty much all but confirmed now that Avengers 4 will contain time travel, so that doesn't mean for certain that the actress from this movie won't come back to play her in Ant-Man 3

SupaSlide ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:11:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think they were referring to when the girl who actually plays Cassie is older.

muhash14 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:17:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just hope the MCU lasts long enough that they can make her her own superhero movie.

ClementineCarson ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:23:15 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Best low-key moment since Thor ragnorok

arcangeltx ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:01:01 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Low key? -lol

Ayushables ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 14:39:42 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For me, her highlight was that damn grin on her face when they are all watching ant man on tv.

RogerDeanVenture ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:55:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They're GOT to give her a time when when can be his partner on a mission.

daiselol ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:55:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was literally my favorite part of the movie. I wish the movie had a bit more heart to it like that

piwikiwi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:00:03 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was very impressed with her in general. Most child actors kinda suck but she was great

GregorF92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:07 on August 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think I could've coped with seeing her get dusted.

KRIEGLERR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:33 on October 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She actually looked straight at the camera during that scene. But she did a great job

GucciGarop10 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:42:36 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was so cheesy

Mastuh_KBM ยท 309 points ยท Posted at 03:04:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

With Hope out of the picture and Scott potentially warping to the future and Marvel hinting at an older Cassie for Avengers 4, I'm betting Peanut is gonna partner up with her dad as the Wasp.

TammersHammers ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 03:40:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
chancesarent ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 03:55:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She becomes the character 'Stature' in the comics when she grows up.

back_bithces ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 17:13:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Please no. I like Evangeline Lily too much as the Wasp, probably my favorite heroine in the MCU right now.

thevisitor ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 09:56:53 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Always had the fattest crush on her since her days on LOST. She's the best

ivanvzm ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:37:42 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But that girl is adorable, at least let her be a hero for a bit.

Worthyness ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 06:38:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Rumor in casting claims that Cassie has been recast with a teenager for Avengers 4. So theoretically there's going to be some sort of time skip.

Blackbeard_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:01:21 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder if that's going to be at the ending... do they end with a time jump? Or do they just jump around a lot

LesterBePiercin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:57:31 on July 27, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The first part of the movie must be the world a few years down the line, how things have changed, how people are coping, etc. Cassie has taken up the mantle of Ant (Wo)man after her father's disappearance, and then when things are fixed - possibly through the time stone - things are returned to the pre-snap 2018 status quo. Because no way are they doing a time jump to whenever Cassie would be a teenager and leaving things there.

elbenji ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:44:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She is a hero in the comics. Stature/Stinger. Since they're hinting hard at using at least the basic YA for this (Cassie, Kate and Wanda's twins)

ColeTrickleVroom ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 21:55:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That "Thanks man" felt so ad-libbed and so EL.

boomfruit ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:38:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What's EL?

dem0nhunter ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 23:15:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Evangeline Lily

xitzengyigglz ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 04:38:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She's a lot better than most child actors

JimmyScramblesIsHot ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 12:43:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was nice seeing Hope smile a few times in this movie. In both movies sheโ€™s got angry face on the whole time, obviously because sheโ€™s upset with her father in the first, but it feels like itโ€™s more to show how badass she is because sheโ€™s a female superhero.

The_RTV ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 14:15:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yea her character felt more rounded this time around.

Topblokelikehodgey ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:21:10 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also I think because she obviously loves Scott and, like her mother and father, he left for a mission without telling her/asking her. She was clearly angry at him because he put himself in danger and she had no idea and could have lost him too.

[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 13:42:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can not wait for Young Avengers like eight years from now.

AvatarJack ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:41:56 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder what Tommy and Billyโ€™s origin will be since both of their parents are dead.

jpmuldoon ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 12:24:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Thanks man..."

ok I'm an idiot and was confused if she said thanks Ben or thanks man because neither felt right.

RadioactiveGwenPool ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:36:43 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hopeโ€™s โ€œThanks, dude...โ€ was one of the most realistic lines of dialog Iโ€™ve ever heard. The way she delivered it was so... normal. Haha.

TesticleMeElmo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:28:33 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Except that made zero sense. Luis had just caused the lab to be stolen, possibly making it so Hope would never see her mother again after all that hope she had gained in this movie that she would get her back. But like one scene later she is just there in the van palling around with Luis like whatever, ya goofball :P

The_RTV ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:57:17 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like her facial and vocal expressions captured that petty well though haha

frydchiken333 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:58:32 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She's so serious. Offended even when he laughs.

DarkSideOfTheBeug ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:33:27 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Peanut? Fucking barf

austinsystem ยท 3716 points ยท Posted at 01:51:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œ.... did you wanna get dinner ..?โ€

roneman815 ยท 3055 points ยท Posted at 02:04:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can't believe Jim Halpert was in this movie.

TreyWriter ยท 1581 points ยท Posted at 02:11:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Props to you for not seeing race.

Bronyficent ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 04:16:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No fan of Jim Halpert is a foe of mine, I donโ€™t see race.

kevinator35 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:06:19 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hate to be that guy but...

โ€œHats off to you for not seeing colorโ€

CrispyToTheMax ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:21:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
cardinalsfan44 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:21:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

well done

Velorium_Camper ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 03:15:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Jhonopolis ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 06:13:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Identity theft is not a joke! Millions of families suffer every year!

WhatTheFhtagn ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 09:13:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

MICHAEL!...

TRLegosfan ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:47:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I knew I recognized him from somewhere!

proddy ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 13:57:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Looked like Dear Leader to me

GotMoFans ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:53:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I KNEW HE LOOKED FAMILIAR!

nekowolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:31:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's where I knew him from! That was really bothering me.

animatedintro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:21:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

THANK YOU! I knew I knew him.

FGHIK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:59 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe they could meet in the holodeck?

Fandemonium ยท 956 points ยท Posted at 01:59:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Randall Park was great!

BunyipPouch ยท 543 points ยท Posted at 02:23:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Randall Park was is always great!

mrdinosaur ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 07:33:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's funny, he's a guy who I see pop up occasionally and every time he's there I think: 'Wow, he's really fuckin solid.'

He's surprisingly wonderful as Kim Jong Un in The Interview. It's a goofy role, sure, but he weirdly imbues it with pathos and I dunno, I think it's a great performance.

EIT_Turtle ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 08:05:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You mean John Krasinski, right?

HooptyDooDooMeister ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:57:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What else is he in?

JustTheTip___ ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 03:33:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fresh off the Boat

LAZER-RAGER ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 12:06:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Interview

Worthyness ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:58:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Old Wong Fu videos

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:59:24 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

which ones?

Worthyness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:02 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
icemannathann ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:13:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

VEEP

TheKingOfGhana ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:11:14 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Like when I pulled that guy from that tank like a true hero I am.

merf78 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:15:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

goddamn Ikea Heights

Stemigknight ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:25:05 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Grandma's boy!

hateyoualways ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Broomshakalaka

wild9 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:42:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He needed a win, man :(

Salkindelgo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:07:41 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just checked and that's the guy who plays Kim Jong Un in The Interview! Fucking hilarious.

blitzbom ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:47:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Huh, I thought it was John Krasinski.

TriviaWhiz ยท 229 points ยท Posted at 01:59:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He wants close-up magic lessons.

dave-a-sarus ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 01:07:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loved that running joke. He's practicing in his office when they barge in lol

Wisconsigiant ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:23:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I want close up magic lessons

lifes_a_glitch ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:37:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought the last scene with them would be him showing Scott he learned the card trick

ribblesquat ยท 809 points ยท Posted at 02:08:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So, Randall Park was very good at what he was doing but... I'm kind of disappointed in the direction they took that character as historically Jimmy Woo is an ultra cool badass. He's basically Chinese-American James Bond going from the FBI, to S.H.I.E.L.D., to Atlas. And he's friends with a talking gorilla. (Also, he hunted Godzilla. Thanks for the reminder, Wikipedia!)

Ah well, a minor quibble.

EDIT: If he were to appear in a sequel all would be forgiven if he does his dork routine in front of a gang of baddies and then quickdraw drops them all. But that doesn't feel like what they're doing.

bigpig1054 ยท 395 points ยท Posted at 03:48:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

wait till he's revealed to be a skrull

bob237189 ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 01:49:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm honestly not sure how I would feel if it turned out that a bunch of people in the MCU turned out to be Skrulls. On the one hand, Secret Wars is a great story and it would make total sense for Marvel to go there after Avengers 4 given how they've expanded the MCU to the cosmic scale.

On the other hand, reveals like that almost always feel cheap. Like "it was all a dream the whole time" levels of cheap. If they're going to go that way, it needs to feel like there was always a point to it, not just a twist they inserted in the 4th act so they could keep the story going.

Zerce ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 03:26:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like they can't reveal people we already know to be skrulls. That would be cheap and too similar to the Hydra reveal. It would also retroactively erase prior character development. They have to introduce someone new, but important enough to make the reveal have weight.

I think it would be interesting if Norman Osborne was a skrull, with the twist playing into audience knowledge that he's supposed to be the Green Goblin.

bob237189 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 13:46:17 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh that would be really good. Show his green pointy-eared form and let people think that's just him being Green Goblin, then like No-- he's actually a skrull.

bigpig1054 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:05:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kind of think it could work if the switch or switches only happen after they come back from being dusted in Avengers 4. You can build to it between A4 and the next Avengers movie or the one after maybe.

neok182 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:31:30 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Captain Marvel is said to flat out be the Kree-Skrull war, is in the 90's and sets up SHIELD learning about aliens as well as superheroes. Ontop of that it also has to explain where Captain Marvel has been for the last couple decades.

So there are a ton of things that Marvel could do in this film to setup a secret wars in the future, or just flat out do the full secret war story in this one film and basically have it be done and dealt with. We're suppose to see how Fury loses his eye and safe to say it's probably from a skrull copy.

But personally I think that marvel won't pull a oh they were a skrull the whole time. I feel more that we'll see that during the chaos of the snap and whatever happens in A4, the remaining skrulls that are left from the war/captain marvel take advantage of it to replace main characters and it will be a story finishing in Avengers 5 where we'll get a secret wars storyline. Assuming the Fox deal goes through they can also setup multiple universes with X-men and a lot more before that too.

Voodoo_Soviet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:03:10 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Could be set up in A4 and then the secret invasion occures after the 2nd wave of marvel. The next big bad.

We still need Skrull Queen Spider-woman.

Voodoo_Soviet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:00:40 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean... Skrull are playing a role in Captain Marvel... Set nearly 20 years ago...

And a lot of marvel hero contracts are up...

lilahking ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

secret invasion

Ubarlight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:30:22 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

SKRULL!

shoots

Canvaverbalist ยท 222 points ยท Posted at 22:47:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My take is that for someone that awkward and silly to be in the position he is, he must he really good at his job.

Worthyness ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 06:00:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You appear incompetent so that when you are competent, you exceed all expectations.

Maxa30 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 15:51:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s almost like Jake Peralta on Brooklynn Nine-Nine

mr_popcorn ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 15:26:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What? He's not awkward, he just really needs a win right now.

Wealthy_Gadabout ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 05:32:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love that final interaction because Woo's trying to be an asshole to Scott but they have such similar personalities that they almost become friends instead. At the very least, he'll probably become an ally to the team in the next movie. Randall Park and Paul Rudd have such great comedic chemistry together I kinda want a Midnight Run situation as a plotline in the next film. I'd love it if he became like Coulson was in the early MCU. Have Jimmy Woo pop up in every film set on Earth from now.

Worthyness ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 06:01:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm down for Jimmy Woo to be new Coulson (even with old Coulson still being alive and all that)

I just want more Randall Park. Love that guy

Wealthy_Gadabout ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 06:13:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel the reason Agent Coulson became Agent Coulson was because of Clark Gregg bringing his A-game to such a small supporting role. Randall Park has the same chops.

leeloo200 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:52:02 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

even with old Coulson still being alive and all that

Not for long...

Shifter25 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:38:17 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Spoilers

etsuandpurdue3 ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 03:40:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's still time for his character to change.

I_am_BEOWULF ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 23:19:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They can always do another Marvel short for him. I mean, prior to Agents of Shield, that's pretty much how they fleshed out Agent Coulson. We didn't really get how badass he was until that short of him kicking ass in the convenience store.

Swisskisses ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:55:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

His character can be all those things and goofy. It doesnโ€™t have to be one or the other.

Atheist_Republican ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 08:51:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think he (the character Woo) is hamming it up with his fellow FBI agents in order to appear less like a threat. He was former SHIELD (in a Hydra-infested SHIELD), after all. They are always going to be looking at him wondering if he was actually Hydra. So he acts a tad goofy and harmless; which is pretty much SOP for SHIELD agents undercover, isn't it?

SanityPills ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 07:40:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I got some definite 'putting on an act' vibes. Especially since he was a lot more serious and composed away from the Lang family. Or perhaps the opposite. He felt so much trust for Scott, and really believed he was just trying to do the right thing, that he felt bad/awkward accusing him throughout the movie.

Permanenceisall ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:24:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey man, no offense and i say this as a friend, but if you donโ€™t believe Randall Park should take up the mantle after Daniel Craigโ€™s contract is up then you can go fuck yourself. Randall Park would make a perfect James Bond.

cbear013 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:39:31 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Personally, If we're getting a well known asian american actor playing James Bond, I think John Cho fits the look and attitude better. Randall Park is just a bit too thicc, and has too much kindness in his eyes.

pingpong_playa ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:23:47 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Daniel Wu would be my choice for Asian James Bond

Jaspers47 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:32:25 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Coulson was a giddy Captain America fanboy, but he still gets moments of badass. Framing is an important part of characterization.

mr_popcorn ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:25:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

imdb says he's actually the leader of a superhero spy team called "Agents of Atlas", which of course means he's gonna get his own TV show spinoff any day now

:)

YeltsinYerMouth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:50:35 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

His slight if hand is improving, you never know

Tyler1492 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:20:47 on October 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's basically Chinese-American James Bond going from the FBI, to S.H.I.E.L.D., to Atlas.

He's Korean-American, though. You know, Park.

nin_ninja ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 02:01:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who wouldn't want to get dinner with Paul Rudd

WonTonsOG ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:26:44 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah did you see that bathtub scene?

pwppip ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:22:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

really wanted one of the post credits scenes to be them at dinner lol

Throwaway221941 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 13:58:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I laughed so much at Woo's scenes.

Even thinking back on his scenes makes me laugh

boogawman ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:51:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œDo you know whatโ€™s more destructive than a nuclear bomb?.... Words.โ€

Takuza ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:17:10 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He was honestly the highlight of the movie, 100% batting average

Cocobender ยท 1670 points ยท Posted at 05:09:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The girl who plays Cassie is better than like every child actor out there. I was pretty impressed.

astrakhan42 ยท 840 points ยท Posted at 20:08:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When they're watching Giant-Man on TV...

Mom: concerned

Stepdad: concerned

Cassie: maniacal grin

BattlinBud ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 14:01:08 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
johndoe42 ยท 587 points ยท Posted at 06:56:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can't say I've ever thought to myself "damn, this kid has great comedic timing" before this movie.

Worthyness ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 06:58:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When you have Paul Rudd as your movie dad, I'm sure that helps immensely.

dafood48 ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 02:32:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah in the opening scene when Rudd designed that maze and slide for his daughter, I found myself wishing that he was my dad

JonnTheMartian ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:15:24 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did you see the new it movie?

thecricketnerd ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:36:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The kid in Iron Man 3 was good too!

GUSHandGO ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:21:58 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can't say I've ever thought to myself "damn, this kid has great comedic timing" before this movie.

Not even with "Home Alone"?

Rapier369 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:13:29 on August 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought that to myself watching this, but also watching Gaten Materazzo in Stranger Things. Kid is a comedic genius in the making.

Martel732 ยท 227 points ยท Posted at 07:41:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When she told Scott not to laugh at her, it was legitimately heart-breaking. Her line delivery was excellent.

iamkayfc ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 09:35:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I find her comparable to that girl from Logan. She's pretty good too

[deleted] ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 07:02:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely, Cassie and the girl from Logan are excellent actors from such a young age.

aravar27 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 02:18:45 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The girl from The Nice Guys is up there, too.

waitingtodiesoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:09:36 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The kids from Super 8

muhash14 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:22:38 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Acquire Fox, get them both in a movie together. A team-up between a hardened warrior and a sheltered girl just beginning her life as a superhero.

evenman27 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:00:56 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm hoping the MCU sticks around long enough to see her in her own movie.

Vranak ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:53:51 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The way they are going, why the hell not? They could still be around in fifty years, it'll be like the Bond franchise.

dtsyk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:29:40 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Check out Big Little Lies, Darby Camp. Actress is 8-year-old but she keeps up with the hollywood stars in the cast.

Squeezycakes17 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:21:21 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

cutest kid ever

HappyGoUnlucky ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:29:46 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dafne Keen, Brooklynn Prince and Valeria Cotto could run rings around her but I agree she was terrific.

In_My_Own_Image ยท 1630 points ยท Posted at 02:21:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"You entangled with her."

"No, Hank. I respect you too much."

Paul Rudd is a treasure.

Luis on truth serum may be the best moment in the MCU.

Ghost was a decent villain. Interesting that she was more sympathetic than the usual Marvel villain with no "I gave your mother cancer" evil schlock.

The fuck does Thanos have against the Pym/Van Dyne family?

Loved that the big finale was a car chase sequence.

All in all a solid action movie.

[deleted] ยท 475 points ยท Posted at 04:49:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

thanos doesnt have anything against pym/van dyne family.

he said the snap randomly kills off half the universe

Radota2 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 14:05:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do we know if it kills off half of each race or just half of the entire universe? As some races would be completely annihilated if the latter, which doesnโ€™t seem very balanced.

Also was there the chance of it affecting himself or was he immune?

Crossfiyah ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 14:32:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As some races would be completely annihilated if the latter, which doesnโ€™t seem very balanced.

Statistically almost impossible just from sheer sample sizes. You're basically asking for billions of coins to be heads in a row.

Mantis_Pantis ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 19:42:37 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The glory of random numbers is that having heads ten times in a row is a possibility. Itโ€™s human bias that says itโ€™s not random.

Crossfiyah ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 20:40:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ten times not ten million.

MrPopperButter ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:53:55 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes ten million. It can be the same probability as ten times if the set is large enough.

Clogaline ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 13:16:44 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not sure you appreciate how insane the math can get. The probability of flipping a coin heads ten times in a row is 0.0977%. Low, but that will absolutely happen to some groups of ten in the Thanos-snap situation.

The probability of flipping heads ten million times in a row is about 10-3010300 percent. The number of Planck spaces (smallest fundamental observable size, 10-35 meters) in the universe is 4.6 x 10185.

The set would have to be literally unrealistically large, incomprehensibly so.

casino_r0yale ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:53:57 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ayyy good old pigeonhole principle

Hopafoot ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:45:17 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Kinda depends on if we're only counting sentient species, and where in their development they are. Surely for some sentient races, they're early enough in development that there's a serious risk of extinction. Same goes for endangered species. Add that in with the size if the universe, and I'd say the odds aren't looking so bad.

Crossfiyah ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:41:18 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And the universe isn't big enough for that to happen.

Even with trillions of planets.

Radota2 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:43:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Depends on the size of the populated universe in the Marvel comics. It seems pretty large to me. I suppose on a smaller scale all you need is more than 50% to be slain for it to become imbalanced. What if 70% of a race is killed but only 12% of another?

Crossfiyah ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 14:49:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Again, in terms of sheer sample size, any race with more than about 1000 members is going to end up in about a 50% split.

Radota2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:02:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But if you count the universe as being infinite, then some races will eventually hit those less likely probabilities.

So, my question is/was; is it applied by race or as a universal whole.

Crossfiyah ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 15:08:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Someone wasn't paying attention to the movie!

The universe is finite. Its resources, finite.

Radota2 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:40:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But is that true? Or just Thanosโ€™ concept of it?

Is he to be considered a reliable source when attempting to justify his actions?

Crossfiyah ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 15:46:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It doesn't really matter either way. The amount of people in it are finite either way. And as I said, any race that has over 1000 or so people is going to be reduced to approximately 50% just because of how probability works.

Radota2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But the way that probability works also means that thereโ€™s still a chance and that the hypothetical shouldnโ€™t just be instantly dismissed.

Iโ€™m just wondering about if itโ€™s universe wide or done by a planet by planet basis. No ones bothered to answer.

Crossfiyah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:13:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's universe-wide.

Of the 7 people on Titan, 5 are dusted. So it must be universe-wide.

Radota2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:14:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you.

-Reflux- ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:52:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The thing about true randomness is that these things that might seem like patterns to us do happen, and itโ€™s entirely possible for randomness to hit a โ€œhot streakโ€ and produce the same results over and over. Thereโ€™s a good radiolab on stochasticity describing this. One part of it describes flipping coins and how itโ€™s very easy to identify 100 true coin flips from 100 coin flips you ask someone to make up. The true coin flips will have things like tails repeated many many times and generally we as humans donโ€™t think thats random enough which is why we never incorporate it into a made up list of coin flips.

Increase the scale to the population of the universe and itโ€™s very possible one planet becomes entirely or almost entirely annihilated.

Here's the link to the Radiolab if you're interested https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/91684-stochasticity/

Edit: Obviously not everyone wants to listen to one hour, although I do recommend it. The relevant coin flipping section starts at 8:55 and ends at around 15 minutes.

Crossfiyah ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:16:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Repeated many times but not billions of times.

Again, statistically almost impossible for a run like that to happen even if you extend it to the scale of trillions of occurrences.

-Reflux- ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:21:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It doesnโ€™t necessarily need to be 100% for a particular planet (even though it is possible), it could be a single population reduced to 20%. Thatโ€™s not repeating heads and tails. Itโ€™s just a single batch thatโ€™s much more heads than tails, which is very possible for how many populations exist.

Crossfiyah ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:24:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The human race was once reduced to around 2000 members and rebounded.

It would take a deviation of like 99% to risk extinction.

Again, if each planet has billions of individuals, you are going to see almost every planet be a 50% split. Some will be 51%. Some will be 49%.

I don't know why people think randomness can deviate this strongly.

If it was a 1 in 500 chance of being wiped, you would have some serious deviation. But it's not. It's 1 in 2.

With a dichotomous outcome that's perfectly weighted like this you only need a sample of like 1000 to ensure the population will be just about even.

Yeah I mean technically there is a chance just like technically a poker deck can be perfectly shuffled back to the way it started but the odds are so small that it will never happen in the entirety of the universe's lifespan.

Fun exercise: Calculate 2 to the power of a billion. That's the odds of a whole planet of a billion people being wiped out.

Then calculate how many planets there are estimated to be with life.

Then go away for wasting so much of my time.

casino_r0yale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:59 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not to belabor this point, but Thanos is omniscient and omnipotent at that point, so if something truly unexpected happens, he can just rewind and go again. Itโ€™s like when people ask stupid questions like โ€œwhat if your shuffling algorithm comes out sortedโ€ ... then just fucking run it again

-Reflux- ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:29:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes almost every planet would be a near 50% split. However, the original OP questions the other planets which are far from a 50% split, which would still occur.

Crossfiyah ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:34:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And I'm telling you, mathematically, that it wouldn't.

How is this so hard to comprehend.

Let's go so much smaller. Let's say there is a planet with 1000 people.

2 to the power of 1,024 = 179,769,313,486,231,590,772,930,...,304,835,356,329,624,224,137,216 (309 digits)

That's a 1 with 308 zeroes after it. That's the odds of the entire planet being wiped out. 1 in that.

High estimates on number of planets that support life in the universe:

19,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. That's a 1 and then 22 zeroes. That's how many independent chances you have for an entire population to be wiped out. Do you see how it's nowhere near the odds of it happening?

Now exponent those odds by a factor of 1 million and realize that mathematically there is no fucking way any planet has more than like 51% of its population wiped out.

-Reflux- ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:51:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

OK I got it. You are right about this. With each sample size in billions and a probability of 1/2, it's almost impossible to completely wipe out individual planets. The large sample sizes corrects for anomalies. This last explanation was much better than your earlier ones and actually explained your point.

wiifan55 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:23:51 on August 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The problem is that you're assuming the snap works linearly, like a sequence of coin flips. There's zero evidence for that. And even if it did, you're assuming that each individual life form gets its own coin clip. Again, no evidence of that.

Crossfiyah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:50 on August 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What do you think random means.

wiifan55 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:57:37 on August 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What do you think about the definition of "random" dictates the mathematical rules in which the snap plays out in a universe that already has proven to be well beyond our irl understanding of the universe? Random can just mean indiscriminate to the subject being snapped. Rich, poor, hero, nobody, all can be snapped. That's Thanos' point when he says "random." It doesn't mean each individual necessarily gets their own roll of the dice or that the roll plays out in a way consistent with our measures of linear probability.

Crossfiyah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:26:23 on August 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But that's what random means.

wiifan55 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:33:50 on August 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Random is just a word. People can mean different things when they use it. And you're completely ignoring the second point, which is that we don't know whether the "dice roll" metrics happen for each individual life form or if the scale is greater than that. The statement "half of all life will be killed at random" can hold true under many different systems. For example, assuming a galaxy with two planets with equal population, destroying one and leaving the other would still "balance" the universe in the same way as destroying half on each planet. Obviously we know each snap "roll" doesn't occur on a one-per-planet basis, but that doesn't mean it occurs on an individual basis either. There could be something in between or some other metric we don't even know about yet.

Crossfiyah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:37 on August 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I know you think you sound smart right now but I have no interest going over all of this again with someone trolling through three month old threads.

wiifan55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:22 on August 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because you have nothing worthwhile to say. Address the points if you disagree or be good and keep quiet.

Crossfiyah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:52:21 on August 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol.

Your rambling incoherent nonsense are not points.

And even if they were nobody but me will ever read them.

wiifan55 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:02:31 on August 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oof, if you can't understand the basic concepts I'm talking about, then I feel sorry for ya

Crossfiyah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:13:30 on August 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

K

wiifan55 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:55:29 on August 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As one last attempt:

would you agree that the probability of "snapping" 5 individuals is a lot lower if it takes 5 rolls to snap 5 people, as opposed to just 1 roll? Because that's what I"m talking about. You're assuming a 1 roll to 1 person metric, and that's not confirmed.

Crossfiyah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:08:27 on August 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No matter what you say it doesn't make any more sense.

You have a 50% chance of being snapped. Period.

wiifan55 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:12:59 on August 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The probability of any individual getting snapped is 50%, but the probability of getting a sequence of people changes depending on the size of each "snap." Please just to you use your brain man. I'm begging you.

The number of rolls required to snap 5 people affects the odds of 5 people in a sequence being snapped. If it takes 1 roll to snap a group of 5 people, then the odds are much higher that 5 people in a group will be snapped than if it takes 5 rolls, because you only need one "snap" roll in the first example, whereas you need five "snap" rolls in a row in the second. You just did the freaking math above, so I know you know how this works in theory.

Crossfiyah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:07 on August 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But there is no reason to believe it would ever work that way. That's ridiculous and circuitous and frankly really dumb.

wiifan55 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:44:09 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because you say it is? We have no idea how the snap works. I'm just shocked it took you this long to actually comprehend.

Crossfiyah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:45 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because it's the only thing that would "perfectly balanced."

Also there is no need to overcomplicate everything. You just thought of a corner-case argument and wanted to feel smart which is why you're still going.

Nobody is impressed.

wiifan55 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:24:16 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

you're the only one who thinks what I was describing was "complicated"

Crossfiyah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:21 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The concept is not complicated.

It's just more complicated than necessary to achieve the end result Thanos wants so why would he ever do it.

It was pointless academic posturing.

wiifan55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:04 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because you're assuming Thanos has a choice in determining exactly how the snap works, as opposed to just generally.

Crossfiyah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:52 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why would it ever work any other way than "Each person has an equal chance."

There is just no logical reason.

This is a dumb conversation.

CMDrunk ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:25:06 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Kevin Feige said half of all sentient life, including animals

CaptnAwesomeGuy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:22 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It can be safely assumed, as that was his goal before he had the gauntlet.

Dutch_Wilkerson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:53 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I am fairly sure it's on a race-by-race basis (50% of each race), so as the last Titan he's immune to the snap I think.

Winston_Road ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:36 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Some people have the theory that Thanos was going to get snapped too, but the Infinity Stones used their power to save him (or maybe save themselves) and that's why the gauntlet seems to be broken at the end of the movie.

thegendler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:35:16 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So random it didn't kill him. How lucky.

Princisb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:56 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Perfectly balanced

codenamethecleaner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:52 on December 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's very lazy writing

asher1611 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 02:27:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost was a refreshing antagonist because she had her motivation (s) and she went after them. No sudden escalation like we have seen other villas do in the MCU.

harten66 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:31:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m not even sure Iโ€™d consider her a villain. Decent character though

BaldyMcBadAss ยท 530 points ยท Posted at 14:35:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I want all Marvel movies to start with a recap by Luis, utilizing the voiceover with the actors being dubbed over by him catching the audience up to speed.

Make this happen, Marvel Studios!

marsman57 ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 14:42:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Luis better not be snapped. Just saying.

NinjaGuy206 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:36:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Snapped?

BaldyMcBadAss ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:48:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Part of the 50% that got dusted when Thanos snapped his fingers.

NinjaGuy206 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:53:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh that makes sense! I was thinking snapped as in like some kind of new drug term and was wondering if Luis had been getting his hands on more of that truth serum, and thought huh, that's a strange thing to bring up. I'm so used to the term getting Thanos'ed. But snapped totally makes sense now. I hope Luis is alright too. We need his humor in this time of need more than anything.

marsman57 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:43:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I spend too much time on r/thanosdidnothingwrong/

carolinemathildes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:56:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Turned to dust when Thanos snapped his fingers.

TelstarMan ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 14:53:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the next Avengers movie, I really hope we get a scene where Luis and Groot have a conversation.

dafood48 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:41:29 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I want to see a reenactment of groovy mouthing Michael Pena despite only saying 3 words

flying_monkey_stick ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:14:57 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would love if Thanos lip syncs in the recap.

ThatEvanFowler ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:24:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Morrisey jukebox thing really cracked me up.

"We just really dig those melancholic ballads, know what I'm sayin'?"

JarasM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:02:02 on October 27, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hell, I want every Marvel movie to have a separate audio riff track of Luis narrating the entire thing.

BaldyMcBadAss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:22 on October 27, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That would be great as well!

Juppness ยท 522 points ยท Posted at 01:32:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm so used to Marvel movies having their setting in New York that I didn't realize that they were in San Francisco until I saw the iconic looping road.

trickertron ยท 189 points ยท Posted at 02:13:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And it makes a lot of sense because New York would have been too busy with Squidward to deal with Ant-man's shenanigans.

Shulerbop ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 02:24:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lombard street was a pleasant surprise, especially since the geography w/pier 39 works.

7deadlycinderella ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 05:28:52 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As an east bay native, the idea of having a car chase down Lombard St is fucking hilarious.

[deleted] ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 03:10:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

the architecture of the houses, hilly roads, and the muir woods that happened prior to lombard street didnt give it away?

you guys need to explore the world. sf is totally different vibe from ny

Orto_Dogge ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 22:07:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not all of the viewers from USA. It's easy to mistake NY to SF. I don't suppose you'll see the difference between Berlin and Paris without seeing their landmarks.

Captain_Bob ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:05:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I get your point but that's not the best example. Paris and Berlin have two very distinct architectural styles, more so than any two major American cities.

SWKstateofmind ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:11:28 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

also, San Francisco has mountains and New York doesn't

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:41:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ny and sf are totally different cultures.

even if they arn't from US, Paxton played by Bobby Cannavale mentioned several times in Ant-man that he was part of sfpd

Orto_Dogge ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:05:36 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Berlin and Paris are different cultures too.

And mentioning SFPD in "Ant-Man" really is not as noticeable as landmarks in the actual movie.

And I'm not saying it's impossible to recognize SF. I'm saying it could be a bit more difficult for not US citizens.

arup02 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:22:58 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Need to explore the world... Lol.

marsalien4 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:09:14 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Right? Sorry I can't just fucking go to San Francisco and New York lol what a statement

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:21:13 on August 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, what a self-centered asshole. I'm not from US, I have no clue how to tell SF and NY apart, so what I'm supposed to do?

spidersVise ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:25:11 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Transamerica Pyramid was my tip-off that it was in San Francisco.

GalapagosRetortoise ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:42:57 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It hit me when the lab first shrunk and left a billboard with an "Your Ad Here!" sign with a 510 area code.

Ryuain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:09 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. I don't think I really realised until the car chase. I deffo spent a few city shots wondering where the avengers tower or whatever were.

cardinalsfan44 ยท 986 points ยท Posted at 02:18:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

they didn't have the heart to do the end scene with the kid because they knew we couldn't handle it

meepbo ยท 1081 points ยท Posted at 03:00:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, they're saving that for Hawkeye's kids

[deleted] ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 11:05:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, no. Motherf....

drelos ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 15:56:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And the hot wife.

Worthyness ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 06:54:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He has to be Ronin somehow. No one goes insane/hired assassin/rogue when you have a family to protect.

sigbinItom ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 08:23:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would like it if hawkeye fliped out and try to blame the avengers for what happened.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:34 on August 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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muffinmuncher406 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:47 on August 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or he would've just time stoned even further back. The only thing they could've done is thor could've aimed for the head.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:06:10 on August 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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muffinmuncher406 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:36 on August 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is that established in Doctor Strange or something?

sarahgene ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:32 on December 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Someone had the right idea!

ArexBawrin ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:22:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Opening for Avengers 4?

peanutbuttahcups ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:19:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Stoooooooop

kjm6351 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:29:18 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I will jump into the movie and kill Thanos myself if that happens....

sarahgene ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:14:54 on December 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

oof

Mebbwebb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:24 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There needs to be a subreddit of reddit made scripts for that.

TaddWinter ยท 461 points ยท Posted at 04:15:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I honest to God thought the second scene was going to be her left totally alone after both adults got dusted. Glad it was just a funny scene with the eerie tone from the TV.

ashishvp ยท 385 points ยท Posted at 04:34:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What the fuck man this is Marvel not a horror movie

Worthyness ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 06:55:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Even the ant scene at the end is haunting. The emergency broadcast signal, people screaming/just general ambiance noise outside.

And there's an ant, just drumming away.

manusiasetrika ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 14:50:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought when they show ant playing drums in the trailer it will be hillarious, but man, it was disturbing..

TaddWinter ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:36:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that would have been ruthless.

Voodoo_Soviet ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:10:59 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude Marvel needs a horror movie.

They got fuckin' Trauma, Morbius, Carnage and Terror inc. just waiting in the wings!

You got Speedball/Penance's whole story. (yea, i know theres a tv show)

You got the 50 States initiative story with KIA.

Make a damn horror movie!

ashishvp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:26:24 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You mean like The New Mutants?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu9e410C__I

Voodoo_Soviet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:38:42 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes.

But that's fox's thing, and ive heard its being tanked.

Howzieky ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 10:37:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Would have been horrified, but I would have loved it

MaverickTimeLord ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 02:48:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Especially after what they did to us with Tom Holland, honestly it would've been too much for us.

They did an excellent job with the bait and switch here. Made us think we'd see Cassie vanish, but instead traded that in for Pym-VanDyne family. Honestly brilliant I think.

TheOrangeShyGuy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:44:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I honestly thought the mother was going to disappear a few seconds after being saved. Unfortunately it didn't happen, but it would have been pretty shocking >:)

Geeraff ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:07:01 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cassie will be Ant-Man's partner in Avengers 4

erino17 ยท 3481 points ยท Posted at 01:53:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That first after credits scene when the camera pans back to see that Hank, Hope, and Janet all turned to dust leaving Scott all alone.... heartbreaking shit, man.

Fandemonium ยท 1999 points ยท Posted at 01:57:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And the question mark after "Ant-man and the Wasp will Return?"

TheAquaman ยท 2098 points ยท Posted at 04:13:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And also the second post-credits scene. The emergency broadcast is on and you can hear sirens and screams.

The post-snap world is fucked up.

Calhalen ยท 924 points ยท Posted at 04:42:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So stoked to see more of it.... in a year ๐Ÿ˜”

JimmyScramblesIsHot ยท 166 points ยท Posted at 12:31:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

10 months! And only 8 until Captain marvel!

tta2013 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:17:17 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I guess Agents of Shield might give some hints?

filipelm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:37 on November 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sadly Captain Marvel is going to be set in the 90's

JimmyScramblesIsHot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:27:37 on November 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 99% sure it'll connect into Avengers 4 in many ways, considering Captain Marvel is going to be in Avengers 4. So I'm still super pumped for it!

Worthyness ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 06:02:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The longest wait between movies we've ever had :C

proanimus ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 20:34:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There was a longer wait between IM1/Hulk and IM2. No MCU movie at all in 2009.

But yeah, itโ€™s been a while since there was a gap this long.

slicer4ever ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 21:04:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's truly amazing how far we've come.

Malarazz ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 12:14:50 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, the MCU as we know it didn't exist in 2009. MCU at Hulk/IM2 and MCU now are worlds apart.

Captain_Waffle ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:49:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t think he meant literally

mikeweasy ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 05:22:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Now its less.

HalloweenBlues ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:46:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really hope they put on some little tidbits along the way like fake news clips of people reporting on the incident and things like that

Winston_Road ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:21:36 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A special edition of Newsfront.

buangjauh2 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:51:49 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It won't feel as long. And even if it does, it will be worth it.

Psipunisher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:51 on October 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Randall Park

9 months now

gandalfsmagicgaydick ยท 234 points ยท Posted at 19:30:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The post-snap world is fucked up

And we've only seen earth. There are tons of other planets with life going through the exact same shit.

aSpookyScarySkeleton ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 03:02:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Many of which were probably not even as heavily populated as earth, statistically speaking.

X7SVNLOL ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 06:49:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Imagine a planet out there where there were only two people living on it, and one of them died from the snap. ):

aSpookyScarySkeleton ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 06:55:00 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean just think of earth.

Sure he wiped out half of China and the US and other high population places, but he also wiped out a bunch of dwindling tribes and small countries, already dying cultures, etc.

Also seeing as how the problem he saw was resource based that means heโ€™d had to have included all living life forms, including animals and plants because those require resource obviously.

This is by far he dumbest aspect of his plan. He, in his own words, said he halfโ€™s indiscriminately, which in terms of balancing the universe is the the dumbest way to go about it instead of say, doing it proportionately and scaled up to population size, reproduction rate, and resource consumption.

Neurotic_Marauder ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 04:12:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As others have mentioned, the snap also most likely affected those in charge of power grids, nuclear power plants, hospitals and other vital services that would be absolute chaos in their sudden absence.

Not to mention all the pilots, conductors, and drivers who all suddenly vanished.

The end result of all of it would mean deaths in the hundreds of thousands if not millions on top of those who got dusted.

aSpookyScarySkeleton ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:13:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Then you have to factor in people who are pregnant, thatโ€™s two in one, even if just the mother gets dusted that baby will automatically die of course. Add on to that the species that have multiple babies per pregnancy.

Draaxus ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:11:40 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But what if only the baby gets dusted?...

inb4 r/nocontext

aSpookyScarySkeleton ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s dead like the trillions of other babies he decided to kill.

Draaxus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:31:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No like what happens to the mom if only the baby gets dusted?

Dudeman1000 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:19:27 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Which is why Iโ€™m kinda disappointed that weโ€™ll only get one movie of a snapped universe. I think they missed an opportunity to delay the final battle for a couple movies.

WhoryGilmore ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:48:36 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And Thanos is just sitting there taking in some rays

-HeisenBird- ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:04:28 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really hope A4 starts off at the immediate aftermath of the snap. I wanna see all the chaos and fear and the news broadcasts. The post credits scene in A3 have us a bit of that. But I want more.

Retroity ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:38:12 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. I want to see what the chaos and immediate aftermath of the snap would be. I want to see how the government institutions handle something like this. I want to see the post-snap world.

MirrorNexus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:28 on July 30, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would like it to do that for the beginning and then time jump like 10 years into the future.

MarvelousShoes ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 02:00:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What was the second post credit scene? I missed it

NihilsticEgotist ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 04:00:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The scene shows Scott's empty house as an emergency broadcast warning plays on TV and chaotic noises can be heard from outside. As the scene shows all the rooms, you can faintly hear drums in the background. The scene then cuts to the giant ant, who's apparently survived Thanos' fingersnap and is still playing the drums.

regendo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:06:13 on August 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What the hell my theater skipped that bit. The second post-credit scene was only the ant playing drums.

indochris609 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:58:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Kind of a weird grim way to end it....I missed it. Did the humor of the ant hit? Seems kinda distasteful.

NihilsticEgotist ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 20:51:55 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah it was fine, though most in my theater found the ant playing drums to be a bit anticlimatic.

Andyman117 ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 05:18:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sometimes patience is the key to victory. Sometimes it leads to very little, and it seems it's not worth it.

imakefilms ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:26:10 on August 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah it was super anticlimactic, and a bit out of place. Wasn't a fan.

Bromleyisms ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:05:49 on August 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The absurdity played well when I watched it. Not humorous, but the mundanity of some(thing?) simply continuing about their routine while the world crashes down around them married with the absurdity of it being a giant ant made it a very memorable moments.

BVTheEpic ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:15:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I expected the ant to turn to dust too

TexasKobeBeef ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:23:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I couldnt stay for the the post credit scenes, can you please explain what happened?

reluctantclinton ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:46:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hope, Hank, and Janet all turn to dust after sending Scott on a trip to the quantum realm, stranding him there accidentally.

DrBearPHD ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:05:33 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The post-snap world is fucked up.

But perfectly balanced...

TheLast_Centurion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:57 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

second post credit scene? There was none. Only Ant one.

Spudtron98 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:50:48 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fucking fuckshit the attendant told us there wasn't a second post credits.

minnesotawinter22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds chill. Thank you Thanos!

Fishtacoburrito ยท 406 points ยท Posted at 04:07:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well Wasp has definitely been banned from r/Thanosdidnothingwrong

BrickMacklin ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 23:20:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This day extracts a heavy toll.

The_Quackening ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:08:23 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

hopefully she unsubbed too.

PWN3R_RANGER ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:29:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait there was a question mark? Damn I didnโ€™t notice that... I was too shook.

Fandemonium ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:35:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think there was at first, then it popped up. The whole theater groaned when they saw it

YROK1986 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:30:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it should have said "Ant-Man will return. And The Wasp?"

TheLast_Centurion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:24 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

was there a question mark? huh.. guess I missed it

LilGyasi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:05 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yep

MisterBlast ยท 1350 points ยท Posted at 03:05:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The way that scene ended with the shot of the walkie-talkie and Scott just yelling for help was a really haunting ending. After Infinity War I had so many questions about how Ant-Man would join the fray, and after that scene I have even more about his role in all of this.

Steven8811 ยท 965 points ยท Posted at 03:37:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œAnt-Man is the key to all of thisโ€

dwide_k_shrude ยท 508 points ยท Posted at 03:58:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Heโ€™s a funnier character than weโ€™ve had before.

M1lkyjoe ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 05:07:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's stylistically designed to be that way.

Jhonopolis ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 06:17:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's like poetry. He rhymes.

Worthyness ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:03:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"It's exactly why we got Paul Rudd"

uberJames ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:34:52 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I may have gone too far in a few places...

I_Am_Paul_Dudd ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 04:51:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Find Ant-Man. He's the key.

Space-Jawa ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 04:08:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Save the Ant-Man, Save the World

Toosh416 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:13:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait. I thought that was Lois Lane...

JakkuScavenger ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 12:00:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think they're alluding to possible time travel for Avengers 4 in that scene.

Steven8811 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 17:01:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

she specifically says "don't get sucked into a time vortex, we won't be able to save you"

gypsydreams101 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 15:04:56 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Captain Marvel will end with her getting trapped in a Time Vortex because of the Time Stone and sheโ€™ll find Ant-Man in there along with Doctor Strange checking out the only possible timeline where the Avengers win against Thanos?

Then, shenanigans. I dunno, it sounds plausible ?

Citizen_Kong ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 07:33:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Every beginning... has an ant."

elan913 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:55:25 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why do people keep quoting this? Where did it come from?

Steven8811 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 19:57:16 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s a reference to George Lucas saying that Jar Jar Binks was going to originally have a huge role in the Prequel Trilogy. Iโ€™m sure you can look up on google โ€œJar Jar is the key to all of thisโ€ and find a video of it pretty easy. Iโ€™d link but Iโ€™m on mobile right now.

elan913 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:00:00 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, gotcha. I thought I had missed something in the movies

RoyceDaFiveNine ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:02:41 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott Lang is a Sith = confirmed

NobleHalcyon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:00:26 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, probably. Pym particles are weird man...time travel and stuff.

talones ยท 370 points ยท Posted at 03:50:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Now you wonder how Hawkeyes family was affected.

MisterBlast ยท 761 points ยท Posted at 03:53:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Something's telling me that the first scene of Avengers 4 is gonna be Hawkeye coming into his house and watching/finding his whole family turn to dust. And I'm really not ready watch that.

Death_Star_ ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 15:36:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We hear birds chirping songs and the faint laughter of kids.

The unmistakable whirring calm of a sprinkler amidst it all.

FADE IN:

EXT. CLINTโ€™S HOUSE - DAY

An extreme closeup of a target in the foreground, angled just flatly enough to be recognized, sharply enough to allow the blur of CLINTโ€™S house in the background.

This is our entire one-shot.

The target has an arrow splintered inside another one in the bullseye.

Clintโ€™s KIDS are two small blurry figures are playing in the sprinklers in the background. Theyโ€™re laughing. Itโ€™s going to be a great summer.

Another blurry, undoubtedly an adult female, emerges from the house, appearing to bring two drinks with her.

THUMP

Another arrow splits the two. In the foreground.

LAURA keeps walking closer to us.

CLINT walks up to the bullseye and begins pulling out arrow by arrow. We are only at mid-torso level. We are staying here.

LAURA (mockingly like a narrator)

Hawkeye (sarcastically) even retired, still doesnโ€™t know where the Avenger ends and Clint Barton begins.

CLINT (playfully)

You know I hate it when you call me those names, right?

Clint removes the second arrow.

Laura arrives at Clint with two glasses of iced tea.

We still just see the torsos of a man and woman in focus, conversing.

Kids still in the background playing, their laughter challenging the bird songs and sprinkler spurts for the title of soundtrack for the intro to summer.

LAURA

And thatโ€™s why I say it, babe. Even you could use some iced tea.

CLINT

Iโ€™m retired, not a retiree.

LAURA (mildly chuckling)

Yeah, ok whatever you say, hon. (More serious) Just as long as you remember that when youโ€™re here, youโ€™re here. Here you go.

Laura holds a glass for him and it comes into focus. Clint is focused on something else. He doesnโ€™t grab it. Not yet.

Clintโ€™s body leans into the background. We hear a kiss O.S. He retreats back to the bullseye, body facing us.

CLINT

Hold on, just let me ...

A bare, toned arm enters the foreground to twist the final arrow out.

The birds stop chirping.

Laughter is dead silent.

(Contโ€™d) has

get this last arrow out and (voice fading, suspicious) Iโ€™ll join you guy โ€”

Laura is just black ashes in air behind him.

The two glasses drop heavily into what sounds like lush grass.

We quickly tilt up and around to C.U. on Clintโ€™s face, the camera spinning around him as his world is spinning.

The face of a heart ripped out, mind gone.

A panicked face as HAWKEYEโ€™S eyes scan everywhere on our C.U. shot of his face.

FADE TO BLACK

All we continue to hear are sprinklers. No sounds of life anywhere.

OPENING CREDITS APPEAR

*AVENGERS: ASSEMBLE

Worthyness ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 06:04:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Then a time jump "some time later" Queue older tony stark

TheEpicTurban ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:15:52 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Alright Iโ€™m placing my bets on this being the intro to infinity war 2.

leakime ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:36:39 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is about how I pictured the opening but I love the visual flair you added to it!

juel1979 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:14:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I expect the same as well. Give him a reason to flip shit completely.

mr_popcorn ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:29:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Marvel cinematic Universe doing their best impression of The Leftovers.

ps. I'm not ready for that to happen ):

StayHypeBro ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:47:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You shut You're mouth.

I wasn't really that affected at the end of Part 1, but this would absolutely kill me.

supersmileys ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:04:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Now I'm scared. The first movie was traumatizing enough, this would push it over the edge.

Castleloch ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:16:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And then we're going to see Ronin yeah?

LesterBePiercin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:45:27 on July 27, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nice. That could retroactively justify the 45 minutes they spent with his fucking family in the 2nd one.

ClementineCarson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Watch the leftovers season one to prep for that

candleboy95 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:17:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And that was like 3% of the population. This is 50%

ClementineCarson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:24:47 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But the scene op described happens in the Leftovers to one of the main characters

candleboy95 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:34:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I know! Iโ€™m just saying the world in general is gonna be even crazier than LO

UnexpectedNickelback ยท -31 points ยท Posted at 04:09:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

...you do know that someday, somehow they're going to bring back everyone that was snapped, right? Do you know that there are movies announced that contain heroes that were snapped?

Yeah i get that seeing spidey feel pain and fade away is sad and stuff but the critical part of me doesn't let me feel THAT sad because i know they're going to be brought back.

It's like seeing an important character "die" or get badly hurt in any tv show that isn't game of thrones

talones ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 04:20:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

suspend disbelief.

youll have more fun with movies.

UnexpectedNickelback ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:38:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I quite enjoy the movies, specially crazy battles and action scenes... it's just that no matter how much I suspend my disbelief, I will never believe nick fury and doctor strange and spiderman are truly gone.

How much can you suspend your disbelief? Did you really think black panther die when he was thrown from a waterfall? Did you fear for thor's life when he was blasted with a fricking star?

talones ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:30:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sometimes I have flutters of worry, because I literally suspend my knowing that the bad guy wonโ€™t win in the end.

Used_Pants ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:35:09 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agree with you on those other ones, but I could see Fury not being revived or dying pretty soon after resurrection. Samuel L Jackson is almost 70 years old (black don't crack), and eats up a huge cut of the budget for any film he's in.

Calhalen ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 04:46:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They still died though. If/ when they come back, all those people that got snapped will know that they died and whatever happened after that will haunt them forever. And the ones that remained alive post- snap will be haunted by the apocalypse that happened, whoever is left anyway. Who knows what sort of crazy shit went down after HALF the worlds population disintegrated..

The repercussions are crazy, and pretty eerie and haunting to think about

UnexpectedNickelback ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:04:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're not wrong, but it's not like they DIED died. They didn't get stabbed or shot to death or blown to pieces. Except for spiderman, they faded away peacefully. They simply vanished.

It's like going on reddit and saying that you want all criminals to be killed/die - that can get you banned for promoting violence. But if you said that you want all criminals to fade away, it would be considered a more civil comment.

nato919 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:23:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked the nickelback lyric!

MisterBlast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:26:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Of course I know that, but seeing lots of people evaporate into nothing, regardless of whether or not I think the evaporation can be reversed, is quite affecting. I've seen Infinity War a bunch, and that ending still gives me the same uneasy feeling it did the first time.

TheDaveWSC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Are you not emotionally invested in these characters even a little bit (both the ones who shattered and the ones who had to watch it)?

Even aside from that, they're probably going to remain gone for a majority of Infinity War 2, so that really sucks for fans of those characters.

Daedalus871 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:02:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, they're in a shrodinger's cat situation. When Thanos snapped, he created two parallel universes, one where Spiderman got snapped and one where Iron Man got snapped. Thus introducing the Ultimate Marvel Cinematic Universe.

NameMan1234321 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:19:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

you're the only one that knew that. congrats.

UnexpectedNickelback ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 04:34:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

homie check yo english

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:35:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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UnexpectedNickelback ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 04:45:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not from an english speaking country as well, homie, so that's another reason for you to check yo english

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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UnexpectedNickelback ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:57:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is it considered being a dick in pakistan when someone promotes critical thinking? Pakistan must be weird

808sAndPoundcake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:43 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Obviously they never really die. Itโ€™s fiction. You can still enjoy the fictional emotions even knowing the plot effects arenโ€™t permanent.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:39:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Watch them all be perfectly fine and he's just oblivious until Cap shows up.

Joaw ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 03:33:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would love to think that Doctor Strange gets him out but we all know what happened there.

JumpinJack2 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:43:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd like to think that Strange reaches out to Scott via time vortex at some point. Strange goes off camera for a bit during the Thanos fight. That's my theory.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:32 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh shit, Strange pulling Scott through time maybe? If they want to introduce time travel as a way of fixing the Snap that'd be a good method

Atheist_Republican ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:53:53 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If Scott doesn't get himself out, he might be able to reach out to Foster. Or possibly since Pym just left all his equipment and the building out in the open, Tony or Bruce get a hold of it at some point post-Snap.

Daedalus871 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:26 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't Strange get snapped?

I_am_BEOWULF ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:01:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Two words: "Time Vortex

lovetape ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 18:47:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Salesman slaps top of Time-Vortex

You can fit so many Plot-Holes in this bad boy

DoctorHalloween ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:59:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My guess is that Janetโ€™s line about โ€œtime vortexesโ€ was there for a reason.

TakenakaHanbei ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:09:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No clue if she's actually confirmed in it, but maybe Ghost will save him? She might know where he is and trt and help him.

ndstumme ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:29:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Either that or they take a cop-out and have him spontaneously grow in size because he's wearing the malfunctioning suit.

KonigSteve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:33 on October 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean he got out once in the first movie by using the throwable grow thing. Would've been smart to bring it back with him again

mikeweasy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:25:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Him and Tony go back in time to the battle of new york.

FunDwayno ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:09:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just watched it tonight. I have a feeling that quantum energy he collected is going to play a role in the next Avengers movie

DuplexFields ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:58:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was wonderfully jarring! A rollicking fun movie, an unabashedly happy ending... gut punch. I haven't felt that way since Rufio got stabbed, or since the final zoom-out on The Prestige.

lWestyl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:13 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't hank say something about how antman needed to be careful of getting sucked into a time vortex? Maybe that is how he gets out. He gets into a time vortex and is spat out somewhere. Question is how does tony go with him. I want to see a iron man armor meshed with antman armor so we have a super small ironman

Frag1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:43 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Janet says something like "Don't fall into a time tunnel" A little on the nose there guys...doesn't leave many questions.

Alinosburns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well the specifically say donโ€™t hit a time storm in the quantum realm.

So it could be that Scott hits one and goes to future. Either inside or outside the quantum realm. Where he may get the tech to enter and exit the quantum realm at will and use timestorms to go back through time.

That would give them the rumoured time travelling ability

FuckWithDurian ยท 578 points ยท Posted at 02:53:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The worst part is Scott is in quantum realm and screaming "GUYS!!!??"

Worthyness ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 06:07:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I hope he brought his shrinky/growy disks as a back up plan.

But then Janet says quantum time stuff, so Scott is totally going to the 90s

DooRagtime ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 21:19:36 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Omghgggg that could be part of why she said that. That'd be sweet!

Zankwa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:47:07 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh shit, sign me up.

pa79 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:43:52 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And then he has to wait 20 years until the present, like Janet waited 30 years in the quantum realm.

CrMyDickazy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:16:05 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Without seeing his daughter AND aging 30 years? That's horrible for her.

KonigSteve ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:07:06 on October 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Murph!

arcangeltx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:55:57 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I guess

ThereAreDozensOfUs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:33 on October 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He does have access to a time vortex though

BeatsbyChrisBrown ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 04:31:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mark my words, there was a reason Wasp mentioned โ€œDonโ€™t get stuck in any time vortexes otherwise we canโ€™t save you,โ€ and Scott now has a container full of โ€œhealing particlesโ€. I bet you that heโ€™s going to get sucked into a time vortex and jump to a time before โ€œthe snapโ€, then maybe use those โ€œhealing particlesโ€ to aid a hero or key individual to prevent โ€œthe snapโ€ from happening. Then, bing bing bing, Marvel Universe restored!

[deleted] ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 14:25:55 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, the healing particles were just quantum particles for Ghost. So I don't know how other heros could us them.

BeatsbyChrisBrown ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:00:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe it has something to do with undoing an effect of the Infinity Gauntlet? Perhaps the quantum particles negate any effects from the Space or Time Gems?

geomachina ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:03:37 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Heal vision, maybe?

Blackbeard_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:03:39 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's of no use jumping without first knowing what happened (the snap)

InstaxFilm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:36 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Could be he masters how to time jump in the phantom realm while trapped there, so he uses that to comes back to present day post-snap and realized he needs to go back in time

johnlockerr ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 08:20:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I expected some of them to get snapped but not ALL three of them!

KB2408 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:26:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really thought we'd see hank pym lose his wife again after just getting her back

Bromleyisms ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:09:45 on August 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it would be the other way, with just Hank getting dusted

Sinkingfast ยท 171 points ยท Posted at 03:22:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Most of my theater laughed. Like, straight up guffawing. Yelling "Fuck you, Marvel." etc. It was actually kind of annoying. I like seeing movies opening night but it seems to bring out all the obnoxious people.

deathcab4booty ยท 127 points ยท Posted at 06:15:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Every fucking nerd showed up to my screening in some competition to be the loudest laugh at every joke and to have the most obnoxious reactions to everything else. The mid-credits scene was punctuated by grown men shouting โ€œHoly shit!!โ€ and โ€œoh my godโ€ and whatever else like they were all trying to prove they were the most shocked.

Anyone who saw Infinity War saw this coming a mile away. Christ almighty just shut up and watch.

C0d3n4m3Duchess ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 00:40:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie did such a fantastic job of distracting me away from "Infinity War". I am a little bit embarrassed to admit I was blindsided by the mid-credits end after just enjoying the movie.

DrewbieWanKenobie ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:23:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Me too. It's funny because I remember right after infinity war speculating on seeing something just like this scene in ant-man, but by the time I had watched through it I wasn't even thinking about it. I admit I let oh a startled "oh fuck" watching it go from the happy ending to that so suddenly

ssirin88 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:22:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't be, I was too.

xxx117 ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 12:55:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know why you are getting downvoted. I had the worst cinematic experience of my life last night watching this movie in IMAX. the guy next to me was reacting vocally to literally every thing that was happening. EVERYTHING. and he would yell laugh at the slightest hint of a joke. My right ear was and is still in pain. I'm glad he enjoyed the movie, but his over-the-top reactions hindered my personal experience :/

SonOfAhuraMazda ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:41:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I always go on Sunday or the week after to avoid the nerds

brendanp8 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:43:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Except in this case?

Yankeeknickfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:04 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Got Lucky and got an almost empty theatre yesterday :). Just me, and I say 10 other people.

xerophyl ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:59:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Infinity War was almost ruined for me because of this. For every little thing people would shout or cheer. Now I understand if its a cool moment like Cap showing up or something, but not for EVERY ACTION SCENE.

Manning_bear_pig ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:21:02 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This happened to my friend at Infinity War. The guy next to him was a larger person. Every little joke, and I'm not exaggerating, this person would belly laugh and throw around his elbows hitting my friend hitting him a few times throughout the movie. He said it completely ruined the entire experience for him.

Yankeeknickfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:51 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I get clapping in moderation (people clapped for cap entering), but overdoing the cheering ruins it

Zenafa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:24 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How dare people enjoy things!

deathcab4booty ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:24:38 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You can enjoy things without being an obnoxious asshole about it.

[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 05:37:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s always been my experience until I moved to LA and starting going to the movies in Burbank. Iโ€™ve been doing it for over a year and have been to at least 20-30 movies here and havenโ€™t had a single issue, and I think itโ€™s because this is a movie town. Back in Boston in was torture, always assholes ruining things.

digitaldash41 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:49:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Whoo AMC 16! Just came back from a Dolby midnight screening it was great.

Used_Pants ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:46:43 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Never really thought about it but you might be on to something. I've lived in LA all my life, and except for one case (it was for Sicario if that matters), I can't remember anyone causing a disturbance in the theater. I'd always see people on reddit bitching about their theater experience and always assumed it was typical redditors complaining like crazy about trivial shit (like driving).

Then I moved to Atlanta for school, and I quickly discovered what redditors had been complaining about.

52ndstreet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:16:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

...always Massholes ruining things

FTFY

frydchiken333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:52 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, that's just Boston.

Voodoo_Soviet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:06 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yea. The AMC by the commons ruined my experience of As Above So Below

Ive taken to going to the showcase cinema in revere.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:03:24 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

not too bad for my showing today. I remember seeing Avengers opening day and people were crying and yelling no everytime an avenger died. It was so annoying that people yelled back telling them to stfu.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:03:38 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I laughed, mainly because I was waiting for it to happen when he went down into the Quantum Realm. Just seeing them turn into ash was just absolutely fantastic.

neeesus ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Annoying, but people cope with dramatic emotion differently. They were probably the most shook in the theater.

[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 06:17:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Sinkingfast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:03:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's hard to believe people were screaming at the midnight release post credits? That people are rude? It happens pretty much every midnight release. Someone has to yell out something they think is funny. If I remember this reddit comment I'll try to record it next time for you, but you can probably find people being dicks and shouting our post-movies on YouTube without my addition.

final_will ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 05:19:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wish it was just Scott and Hope who disappeared leaving behind Hank and Janet, then we could have the real OG Avengers in Avengers 4.

[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 11:06:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I guess Hank is just a bunch of Pym Particles now.

neeesus ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:07:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, technically he always was.

Kwijiboe ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 06:33:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Perfectly Bal-Ants. As all things should be.

PrinceNuada01 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:22:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

X(

52ndstreet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:18:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Goddammit. Take your upvote you beautiful bastard.

tuckerlamb ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:16:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Question for anyone. I loved the movie and I love marvel. That being said the only question I have is when thanos children attack earth at the first of IW donโ€™t you think ant man and gang would of thought. Hey this might not be the best time for going into the quantum realm ?

Malachi108 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 10:01:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They were probably too busy setting up the experiment and didn't watch the news.

asher1611 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:14:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How close do the time frames match up? Do we know how much time between the end of theovie and the first end credits scene?

InstaxFilm ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:09:47 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It seems like a bit of time since they didnโ€™t have the quantum realm thing in their van before, that most likely took time to build

Of_Silent_Earth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:10 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

THANK YOU! I just got out and this really bothered me. They were obviously going quantum at the same time the Wakanda battle was going on. You'd think they'd tell Antman and his new partner about that! Especially because they told the govt to shove the Accords. There's no reason he shouldn't have known.

Namiez ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:25:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I reaaaallly thought and hoped that that would have been done at the end of IW but for Hawkeye's family. Imagine it cuts to him and his wife just tucking their kids into bed then poof, it's just him left. Perfect reason why he is in IW2 and totally heartbreaking.

Gr33nman460 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:04:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Makes me wonder how is Ant-Man gonna have a role in Avengers 4 if the people that know of his whereabouts are โ€œdeadโ€?

sable-king ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:09:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe Goliath or Ghost? Assuming they survived that is.

deadly_titanfart ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:53:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There was a second post credit scene? What was it

slendermanrises ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 03:10:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was Scott jamming out on the drums.

AnimaLepton ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:12:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was a couple shots of Scott's apartment, followed by the ant that was his substitute hitting the drums (scene from the trailer)

KB2408 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:24:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was dumb, but the first was amazing so I guess it balanced out

stryker101 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 03:53:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The drum bit was silly, but I loved seeing that extra tiny bit of the post-snap world: the emergency broadcast, the faint screaming and chaos outside.

BlueThumbtack08 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:19:36 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I know this was a week ago, but in case you didn't get the answer you were looking for, it was the big ant jamming out to Scott's drumset (just like AnimaLepton) said.

Also, in the background you can hear cars screeching, lots of screaming, and the emergency braodcast signal. The snap did some damage.

StayPuffGoomba ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:32:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My theatre erupted in surprised and angry shouting. Was kinda nice to see a reaction like that from an audience.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:03:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I left after that, what was the next scene?

TheGum25 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:31:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm surprised people were surprised. I was surprised the actual movie didn't have more to do with the Snapture. It's kind of comical that the Avengers are currently fighting in Wakanda but Ant Man is on a parking garage? Also, can't be day in Africa and the West Coast.

thatsonearthdipshit ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 02:48:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It ... literally can be day on the West Coast and in parts of Africa. thereโ€™s only an 8 hour difference between San Francisco and Lagos, for example

TheGum25 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:29:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seems Wakanda is supposed to be on the eastern side of Africa - which could be a 11 or 12 hour difference - and this scene is definitely happening noon-ish in San Fran. And in most cases the Wakanda day is shorter than a US summer day, so I think even if it's 11am in SF, it should be dark in Wakanda by 7pm. Again, I'm pretty sure it's a blooper.

ChrAshpo10 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:28:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And we're all pretty sure it's completely pointless to waste time and energy on such a stupid point.

stryker101 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:08:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well Central Africa is 9 hours time difference from San Francisco. Give or take an hour for wherever Wakanda is supposed to be ...

There's definitely some overlap where it'd be daylight in both places. 8 a.m. in California would be 5 p.m. in Central Africa. It's not crazy to say Thanos snapped his finger in the evening in Wakanda (where their battle had been going on all day) while Ant-Man was heading into the Quantum Realm the same morning in California.

TheGum25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Looks like Wakanda is (potentially) 11 or 12 hours from US West Coast, and apparently the our world location of Thanos' sunset is the Philippines.

But for now we can say beyond a shadow of a doubt the filmmakers absolutely knew it was 8PM in Africa and 8AM in San Fran. The more "in story" problem is why is Ant Man not in Africa? Since this movie didn't give a great reason why, my money is on this scene happens before the Snapture, but how or why, beats me.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:30:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because everything happened in a matter of a day to a day and a half? The movies most likely happen simultaneously, since they mention him being under house arrest in Infinity War.

xfan09 ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 10:34:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You buy in that there are talking alien raccoons, Godโ€™s from another realm, a super soldier frozen in ice from 80 years ago, a billionaire playboy turned justice vigilant, a mythical physician, and a big green guy. But you draw the line with TIMEZONES?

Fbastard3 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:47:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who says these two films happen at the exact same time? It could happen a little bit before Infinity War. Or at least the battle in Wakanda.

Voodoo_Soviet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:19:34 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Antman's films are always nitpicked by dweebs who thing "The science is unrealistic".

TheGum25 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 14:35:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s supposed to be set in our world, and last I checked we still have the one sun. This movie was full of obvious bloopers and sloppy cuts, so it makes sense they would fumble with trying to shoehorn a Snapture tie-in. But I really do hope this scene happened before and explains why Ant Man didnโ€™t help the Avengers. I enjoyed the movie, but canโ€™t see myself watching it again.

C0d3n4m3Duchess ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:47:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey everyone, get a load of this guy.

Good god, lighten up. Everybody in IW mentioned that Scott was under house arrest and was out... That's that. It's a comic book movie, it's all the excuse they need when they think Hulk will turn the tide of every battle.

TheGum25 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:04:45 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey everybody, get a load of THIS guy assuming I care more than a pinch about this. Iโ€™m just applying common sense to the one part of this movie people care about, much more than the movie itself. If Ant Man will break house arrest twice for some lady he doesnโ€™t know, Iโ€™m sure heโ€™d break it to save 3+ billion people. And yes, it was midday in Wakanda at the time of the Snapture, so cant be midday in two different places in the world. Blooper confirmed.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What obvious bloopers and sloppy cuts?

EdtotheWord ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:06:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but who says that was happening at the same time? Ant-Man most likely happened before IW events.

Shootdatrupee3123 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 06:43:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

maybe so for the rest of the movie, but the mid - credits has to have happened during/right after the end of IW since characters disintegrate during it.

thatsonearthdipshit ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:46:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

sure but San Francisco is only 8 hours behind plenty of parts of Africa. No reason it canโ€™t be morning there and late afternoon in Wakanda

darshfloxington ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:23:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean they had that same error in Avengers as well.

Silvxs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:20 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How?

darshfloxington ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:35:23 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The post credits scene. It is daytime in NY when everyone dusts. Although now that I think about it, it is evening once Thanos gets the stones. If its 7pm in Wakanda it is 9 or 10am in San Fran. It could work!

Silvxs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:15 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fair point!

Jaijoles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:02 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just got back from seeing the movie. Heard a kid a few seats down ask his dad if it was supposed to be a sad movie.

locke_5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:05:22 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That wasn't a camera pan, it was a cut. A pan is a smooth motion

travio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:23 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think there was a chekov's gun in that scene though. The mention of time eddies or what ever it was could be a way to undo the Snap. Given how much he mentioned Captain America, I'm betting we get a scene in the next avengers where Scott goes back in time and meets an earlier Steve Rogers who will of course not recognize him.

JamSa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:40 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It just made me think that if you don't watch that with the assumption that everyone comes back in A:IF2 that ending kind of ruined the whole movie.

spoonerwilkins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:39:57 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was half expecting Annihilus to show up after the comms died. That dust though made my thoughts just screech to a halt. Very well done!

KDY_ISD ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 09:21:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly, it didn't even feel like a twist or brave or anything. Just left a bad taste in my mouth at the end of an otherwise very enjoyable movie.

It's like ... did I feel something? Sure, but that's like a stand up comic tickling me in the front row and then saying, "You laughed! It counts!"

frapuman ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 02:42:17 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That first after credits scene was annoying. Why canโ€™t I just go see ant-man 2? Instead I got avengers infinity war part 1.5 - It was a very good standalone movie but the after credits scenes ruined it.

asher1611 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:15:54 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's why it's an end credits scene. And man 2 was done.

mardfet ยท 1541 points ยท Posted at 17:52:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was anyone else under the assumption that Lawrence Fishburne was ghosts father and got really momentarily confused as to why he was white in her flashback?

ShortFuse ยท 433 points ยท Posted at 19:31:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was confused as to why she is supposedly from Argentina, but had the thickest British accent.

JJMcGee83 ยท 220 points ยท Posted at 20:38:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

All foreigners sound British in America. It's a rule.

ShortFuse ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 21:30:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No. I've seen films use the wrong accents for Latin American characters (ie: Luke Cage S2 has a Dominican druglord, but he speaks Spanish with a Mexican accent) but this is the first I've seen using a British accent.

And Argentinians and Chileans have a really obvious accent with they way they stress syllables, so if they were to even speak Spanish, you would easily catch it.

I'm just going to assume the use of Argentina was just to pick a setting for the experiment. I just was confused because I was fully expecting some sort of Spanish accent (even if Mexican).

Fyi, the actress is British.

Altephor1 ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 02:20:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seemed like her father was sort of a fugitive/on the run type. Obviously he used to work for SHIELD, in America, so he and his family may not have been native to Argentina, that just happens to be where they were when his experiment went bad.

JJMcGee83 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:02:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was making a joke that in American movies the accent doesn't matter. I mean The Hunt for Red October Connery has a Scottish accent despite being Russian.

RandomRageNet ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:25:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Actually he was Lithuanian

casino_r0yale ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:00:31 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And sheโ€™s in two separate Black Mirror episodes!

infez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:28 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

THANK YOU; that's where I recognized her from!

TheCatsActually ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 06:30:20 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Their family isn't from Argentina, they just relocated there after her father got fired and disgraced. He set up his own experiments in a cheap country.

CatoDarpa ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 20:26:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tons of european expats in Argentina. Father is white, kids will often pick up their parents accents. .

Might be a stretch but not that much.

ShortFuse ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 21:39:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Actually, Argentina has a lot of White Europeans ancestry. You'd swear they're from Europe with their light skin and light colored eyes. But they're born and raised there, like any other South Americans. For example, Alexis Bledel is from Argentina and grew up speaking Spanish and didn't learn English until she went to school.

But I'm going to guess that Elihas Starr (Egghead) is actually British, but took his family with him to Argentina to conduct his experiments. I guess that would make more sense since he probably worked with Pym in the US.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:31:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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ShortFuse ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:17:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That doesn't matter, no.

But usually when a location is specific in MCU, it's usually for a purpose. If she and her mother aren't Argentinian, then the fact they were in Argentina will probably come back later. Hydra has run operations there, and her father is Egghead in the comics. So I'm guessing there'll be more to what happened in Argentina revealed at some point in the future.

(For example, in Age of Ultron, where they mention the vibranium Ultron gets from Klaue is from Wakanda. That comes back in Civil War and Black Panther.)

Worthyness ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:11:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She was taken in by SHIELD right after. Maybe they educated her in the UK. You know, before they turned her into a super assassin spy

therocketandstones ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:47:44 on August 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Falklands

edit: or cos he's hydra- and they're nazis and where did nazi officials go after WWII?...

Tasty_lake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:54:01 on December 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The explosion turned her British.

grimskull1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:43 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because Argentina is an European country, duh

caleb_guy1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:32 on December 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Argentines learn british english in their schools

JonAndTonic ยท 769 points ยท Posted at 18:19:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit saaaame, I thought the quantum explosion made him black or something

dontsniffglue ยท 185 points ยท Posted at 20:19:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This comment is fucking killing me

JonAndTonic ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 21:11:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hope you get better then :^ )

The_Quackening ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:29:42 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

quantum man, simultaneously both black and white.

iridescentFUZZ ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:34:27 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, I thought the exact same thing for a while

outadoc ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:47:49 on July 28, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks I still feel stupid but at least I'm not alone

JonAndTonic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:02 on July 28, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

:)

BawsDaddy ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 20:39:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly, that's some really bad editing/writing/directing. The whole time Ghost spewed out that horrible exposition I was like, "why didn't they just put this sequence in the beginning of the movie and pet us have an AH HA moment when we realize the little girl is Ghost." It just felt amateur.

mardfet ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 22:20:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The opening sequence also felt really out of place imo.

neeesus ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:38:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think this scene is more about what we assume as people.

The start of the movie was completely jerking though.

haildecoysnail ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:37:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The latest MCU films always has the villain set up cold open, maybe the wanted to try something different? It's very much part of the "Marvel formula" so they probably tried mixing it up a bit or something.

BawsDaddy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just saw it coming from a mile away. I was like "no... Ha... No. NO. NOOOO." And then she delivered it so ham fisted it totally took me out of the movie... But hey, to each their own.

dafood48 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:34:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lmfao. I am ashamed to admit that. I was thinking to myself does he look white from the angle I was sitting?

fungobat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:21:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, that was me!

here_for_news1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:51:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! I was so confused for a minute in the theater.

beefytrout ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:50:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Here too.

Bitey_the_Squirrel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:37:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Me too

ElloJelloMellow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yep

SpacePistachio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:05:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lmao

BattlinBud ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:55:50 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes.

abstergofkurslf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:03:01 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah me. i thought the experiments turned him white lol

DetectivePapaya ยท 408 points ยท Posted at 23:40:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m just glad John Krasinski finally made it into the MCU

Hivalion ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 23:45:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I had to look this up because I had no idea what you were talking about.

I've seen him in plenty of things (namely Fresh Off The Boat), but I had totally forgotten about The Office. I should probably rewatch that soon.

Jasongboss ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:01:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tldr who was he

envynav ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 00:25:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Randall Park (the actor that played the FBI agent) played โ€œAsian Jimโ€ in an episode of The Office. John Krasinski played Jim in The Office

blitzbom ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:08:11 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

https://youtu.be/h8H_103VGrw

The scene in question.

Seal412 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:41:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He also played Kim Jong Un in The Interview. Kraskinski is a prolific actor

TwistedRabbit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:12:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What?

prettymuchquiche ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 00:17:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Randall Park played "Asian Jim" in an episode of The Office as one of Jim and Pam's pranks on Dwight

TwistedRabbit ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:20:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ahhh, i get it now.

Link for people who forgot like me

Thanks for explaining.

clinquantholly ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:25:53 on August 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hats off to you for not seeing race

Gerard54321 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:22:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

loved him in DETROiT

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:33:58 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good for you for not noticing race

Voodoo_Soviet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:23 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He'd be a pretty badass Carnage.

FosterTheMonster ยท 2951 points ยท Posted at 01:55:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œThe 60โ€™s were great, but I sure am paying for it nowโ€

backtowhereibegan ยท 846 points ยท Posted at 02:07:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One of my favorite Stan Lee cameos for sure.

MasterofSciFi ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 03:10:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Best Stan cameo since Guardians 2.

htx_evo ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 19:03:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Every Stan lee cameo is the best one until the next one is released...until theyโ€™re not :(

MasterofSciFi ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 19:14:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think maybe Avengers 4 should be his last before he rides AKA gets driven into the sunset AKA his home under the watchful eye of someone trustworthy chosen by me.

booshmang ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 23:41:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They should canonly make him the one above all in the mcu

MasterofSciFi ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:46:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That would do it for me

Voodoo_Soviet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:21:52 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

... Part of me has a sneaking suspicion that Stan Lee saves the Marvel universe.

Darwins_Pointed_Stik ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:47:55 on December 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Reading this comment 5 months later has given me a sad ๐Ÿ˜ž

htx_evo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:01 on December 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Holy cow I donโ€™t even remember saying that but now Iโ€™m sad again all over. Did you see the one in Wreck It Ralph?

iwanttosaysmth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:33 on December 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

:(

FosterTheMonster ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 02:18:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Its almost a crack at his situation irl right now lol

2th ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 02:36:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's not funny at all... His current situation is heartbreaking.

bluescompany ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 04:35:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What is his current situation? Seriously asking

LetMePointItOut ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 05:32:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Something like caretakers or legal guardian are taking advantage of him.

41shadox ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 15:25:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure that caregiver got a restraining order

Aztec_Gold ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:26:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just got revoked by a judge.

Worthyness ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 06:15:03 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

His previous "friend" basically was using him as a money bags. Basically elder abuse. The dude literally sold Stan's blood in the form of ink.

FosterTheMonster ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 02:40:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They were clearly referring to it though

morphinapg ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:44:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was filmed long before he ended up in the situation he's in now.

larrydocsportello ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not sure why that makes you laugh out loud.

SuperPoop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

are we not going to talk about his hitler mustache? or can stan the man get away with that now?

Orleanian ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 17:15:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, he was old enough to grow a mustache before Hitler came along...so he can probably do whatever he pleases.

MisanthropeX ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:05:00 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

His full name is Stanley Lieber: he's Jewish. I seriously doubt he's wearing that mustache in support of antisemitism.

SuperPoop ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:25:29 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

it was just odd to see. the last guy who tried to pull it off was michael jordan.

ion_force ยท 139 points ยท Posted at 02:18:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't understand the joke. :(

neebs231 ยท 422 points ยท Posted at 02:25:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Drugs, the answer is drugs

ion_force ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 02:29:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you!

[deleted] ยท 349 points ยท Posted at 03:05:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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MY-SECRET-REDDIT ยท 159 points ยท Posted at 21:59:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The meta joke is that what Stan Lee was doing in the 60s wasn't drugs, or at least not just drugs. Stan Lee was making these Marvel superheroes with his brother and Jack Kirby. Like Ant-Man was one of the first, being created in 1962, and Wasp being created in 1963.

So now, years later, Stan Lee the cameo character is paying for what Stan Lee the man did in the 60s because Wasp just shrunk his car.

thats a far better joke than it just being "he did drugs in the 60s", i actually thought it was one of the worst cameos. the meta joke, makes it far far better.

HooptyDooDooMeister ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 03:00:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What made it strange to me was I got the meta but missed the joke.

larrydocsportello ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 04:20:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Youโ€™ve never heard the common joke that people were loaded in the 60s? Where do you live?

HooptyDooDooMeister ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:58:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I got it now. I just couldn't see past the meta. Edited my comment to be slightly clearer.

dadankness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:08 on October 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I still dont understand how that makes his car get small, by being high in the 60s, I think it is just a bunch of youngins and they universally came to the wrong conclusion and cant go back on it now. like anti vaxxers.

HooptyDooDooMeister ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:54:47 on October 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Are you familiar with LSD flashbacks? There's also the Alice In Wonderland effect ("One pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small," as 60s/70s psychedelia band Jefferson Airplane sang).

Btw, your attitude was fine until your last sentence.

dadankness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:31 on October 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

way too reaching

HooptyDooDooMeister ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:01 on October 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
pencilcase3001 ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 02:27:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He did a lot of drugs and now he thinks his car has disappeared.

ion_force ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:28:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, thank you!

Djur ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:37:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the 60โ€™s he did too many drugs and now he sees his car disappear and shit.

ProtoReddit ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:41:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He made the characters in the 60s and now they're messing with his car.

That's how I understood it.

ryantyrant ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:28:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

D R U G S

MasterofSciFi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:09:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I had to think a little.

HooptyDooDooMeister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Glad I wasnโ€™t the only one.

omart3 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:56:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If he thought that was bad, wait til he sees people disappearing around him!

justalittlestitous ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:55:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This happened just as I was sipping my beer and almost died of laughter with the rest of the theatre.

Keep โ€˜em coming Stan!

d2cole ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:12:46 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It felt super forced to me, but idk, maybe itโ€™s just all the Stan Lee news getting to me.

BattlinBud ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:58:53 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was that just him straight-up not even playing a character anymore, what the fuck

ktron10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:03:24 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He was talking about drugs

MisanthropeX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:53 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"What was that shit Steranko slipped me?"

X8383 ยท 782 points ยท Posted at 02:26:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ulysses S Gr-Ant slayed me

rohay ยท 393 points ยท Posted at 04:48:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ANTonio Banderas cause you're a badass

bloodflart ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 14:19:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

immediately dies

TL10 ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 20:54:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

F

HappyGoUnlucky ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 07:35:28 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ANTONIOOOOOOOO

pa79 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 11:49:23 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My cinema had german subtitles and I caught them translating that pun into "Ameister Yoda" (Meister Yoda = Master Yoda), because ant is Ameise in German.

NoviceoftheWorld ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:04:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He was so proud of it, too.

illmatic2112 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:06:00 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like I was the only one in my theatre that laughed at that

hurricane1197 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:11 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is it just an ant pun or did it have more meaning to it as well?

infez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:27 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No it's just an awkward terrible ant pun

BritishBrownie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:54 on October 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Gi-Ant man

_theuser ยท 1079 points ยท Posted at 01:58:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Soo...Time vortex anyone? :)

musashi_88 ยท 401 points ยท Posted at 02:07:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That is exactly what I heard!!! So pumped for A4.

[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 16:16:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If they can weave antman wasp movie into A4, DC should just pack it up it's over for them.

musashi_88 ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 16:33:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was over for DC as soon as they let that god-awful mustache cgi job go the theaters.

booshmang ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 23:40:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think it was over when they hired zack snyder to helm the DCEU

mr_antman85 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:32:53 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Part of it was the hiring of Snyder but what I think is the problem is that they didn't have people who cared. When you hear Fiege talk about the MCU he is always so happy and says how thankful he is that he does what he does and that he loves what he does. So in turn he wants the audience to care for the MCU as much as he cares. DC didn't care at all, they simply wanted the money. It's just like Transformers, the writers didn't care and Michael Bay didn't care and thats why we got crap movies. You get a different vibe from DC than Marvel and it starts with Fiege.

Empanah ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:37:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well it was something they knew it was going to be a problem. But you are producer, snyder shows you a cut that is just the worst, he loves it, he doesn'twant to change it, you fire him, even though the movie is out in a few months, you hire a new director for a new cut, he wants reshoots, Henry cavill is doing mission impossible now, Universal has a clause and he can't shave his mustache. You offer Universal millions of dollars to have Henry's mustache removed. They refuse, you need a new cut so you shoot it with the mustache and the vfx studio will fix it. But now the movie comes out in 2 months, the vfx studio tells you there is no time and it will look horrible, you give them more money and tell them to work overtime to fix the problem and hope for the best. And then it looks bad, and everybody can see it.

MaverickTimeLord ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 02:38:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Going to be very interested to see how that's gonna play a role in Captain Marvel... The pics for A4 confirm time travel and we see Scott in his Ant-Man costume there too so...

When I say play a role in Captain Marvel, most likely will just be a post credits thing, but it'll still be interesting.

HardcoreKaraoke ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 04:22:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair it wouldn't be the first time Marvel used set pictures to fake us out. They've done it before and with how tight security is with IW/A4 I could see them shooting fake scenes.

MaverickTimeLord ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:47:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True, very true... Regardless, still gonna be interested to see how this all plays out.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:07:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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HardcoreKaraoke ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:00:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think they were from 4Chan but /r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers is a good place to follow the leaks. There's a few with Cap, Iron Man and Ant-Man together in a location that's a pretty big spoiler.

I hope he's really there but I wouldn't be surprised if they had Rudd on set to fool paparazzi.

saber1001 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:07:17 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Possible the scenes are the memory recreation technology but expanded that Stark developed as well.

dem0nhunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When did they do it?

HardcoreKaraoke ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:51:55 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Michael Rooker was on the set of Infinity War and he was rocking a production jacket. This was before GotG 2 came out so people were speculating how Yondu factored in to IW. It was a fake-out for his death in GotG 2 and him being in IW.

TheHoundThatRides ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:34:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I already knew about this but not everyone online wants to know those spoilers mate....

Shtogus ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:44:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What was the reference?

peace_love17 ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 03:31:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Before Scott jumps into the quantum portal thing in the post credit scene Michelle Pfeiffer says something like "oh don't fall into a time vortex because we won't be able to save you." Or something to that effect.

I_am_BEOWULF ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 23:03:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

LOL, such a funny throwaway line too. Time Vortex. Won't be able to save you.

WHAT NOW? TIME VORTEX AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SAVE ME?? TELL YOU WHAT, TIME OUT! ELABORATE! QUANTUM-LADY!

Shtogus ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:34:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ahh, mustโ€™ve missed that

peace_love17 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 03:36:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was a quick little line but it might foreshadow Infinity War 2

TammersHammers ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 03:30:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Janet warns him about them before he goes into the Quantum Realm in the mid-credits scene.

Celly96 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:34 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn everyone talking about captain marvel using the time vortex but maybe that is how captain America will โ€œdieโ€... heโ€™ll go back to his time his last scene will be him walking onto the dance floor with Peggy

erickgramajo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

surprisingly a lot of people missed it

OnMeFone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:36:52 on August 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I swear she said โ€œdonโ€™t spend too much time with the tardigrades, theyโ€™re cute but theyโ€™ll eat youโ€.

Did no one else catch that or did I see a different movie?

erickgramajo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:18:00 on August 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She also said that

AcheronRed ยท 2147 points ยท Posted at 01:50:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Move over everyone, give Best Actor to Paul Rudd for his role playing Michelle Pfieffer.

nin_ninja ยท 1091 points ยท Posted at 01:59:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's amazing how much you believed it was her talking through him

BunyipPouch ยท 639 points ยท Posted at 02:24:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nailed that classic 1990s sex symbol vibe.

TheAquaman ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 04:11:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Meow

devilslaughters ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 11:41:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If Antman doesn't do a homage to that scene in the next Avengers, I'd....be internally conflicted either way.

arbitraryairship ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:53:37 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Speaking of the 90s. Her last words to Ant Man were to avoid time vortexes. And Captain Marvel is set in the 1990s...

waitingtodiesoon ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:13:12 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Biggest issue. Nick Fury was already paging her at the end of Avengers Infinity War

hcoo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:47:29 on August 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

More like he was paged instead

brady2gronk ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:46:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's like Whoopi Goldberg channeling Patrick Swayze in Ghost.

littletoyboat ยท 297 points ยท Posted at 02:14:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's just a dude, playin' a dude, possessed by another dude chick.

whitemithrandir ยท 441 points ยท Posted at 02:02:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Letโ€™s stop de-aging all these actors and just have The Celery Man himself do all the impressions.

Oh and enough business-deal side villains. Letโ€™s just get Justin Hammer dancing through each film.

noidisagree1111 ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 02:37:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Personally I prefer Tayne

13inchpoop ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 03:27:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nude Tayne.

pieman_ ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 13:41:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Computer, run a beta sequence."

BraveConeDog ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 15:15:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Now Tayne I can get into.

TammersHammers ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:46:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, we need more Rockwell! I was hoping that somehow he would be the buyer that Goggins was working for.

SlowMotionSprint ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:35:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Norman Osborn maybe?

TammersHammers ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:09:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Osborn wouldโ€™ve been a nice reveal

Dallywack3r ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:14:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man I was so disappointed in the villains of this film. They had Walter Goggins and related him to such a pointless position.

whitemithrandir ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 10:43:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s it weird that I kind of liked Gogginโ€™s character? It fits with the scale of Spider-Man: Homecoming and the first Ant-Man. Just kinda shady dudes out making cash, violating health code ya know.

Worthyness ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 06:22:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Plus he's not dead and he's going to prison. Where another multimillionaire weapons developer is also there.

Sonny Birch + Justin Hammer combo team up against Ironman and Antman.

Flexappeal ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:40:51 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Vulture is in prison too.

BattlinBud ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:14:06 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, Sam Rockwell was wasted so badly on Iron Man 2.

Flexappeal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:41:42 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™ll never understand what happened w that movie. Favreau was still in charge. I guess they just didnโ€™t know how they wanted to do MCU sequels yet.

waitingtodiesoon ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:31:44 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

MCU looked to be fully happening so the producers at the time forced Favreau to include a lot of stuff to get the MCU rolling which caused constant rewrites and caused a disjointed story (people blame other cinematic universes for trying to set up other films instead of focusing on an individual film which is what Iron Man 2 was doing). It was so bad it caused Mickey Rourke character to become a one note villain instead of the ludicrous hard work he put into bringing Vanko to screen (he picked the tattoos his character would have, he created the idea for the bird, he trained physically to wear that 40 lb suit and actually crack whips in it, he visited Russian prisons and worked on the accent, character motivations and ideas he would fax to favreau all cut or neutered by the executives). It caused Favreau to step away from directing another iron man or marvel film. He finds acting in it much easier. Also like iron man 1 it had no finished script and lots were adlibbed.

https://youtu.be/DdY8PF75lRI

Around 1:40 the Russian prison and near end of the clip the training weights. Too lazy for other sources rn

Flexappeal ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:35:27 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for the actual good answer. I remember his accent specifically being quite good. A lot of times when people imitate a heavy Russian accent it comes out funky but his was dead on

waitingtodiesoon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:57:02 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yea. I still liked the film, but nowhere as good as Iron Man 1.

ezioaltair12 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:54:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just like Anthony Hopkins playing Loki-as-Odin in Ragnarok

RandomRageNet ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:55:22 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You know, now that you mention it, he was so good I forgot that wasn't actually Tom Hiddleston shapeshifted. Hopkins can bring it.

TammersHammers ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 02:45:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Reminded me of Jack Black channelling a teenage girl. Those scenes were great!

juel1979 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:28:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He was such a treat there. Dude went completely for it.

MasterofSciFi ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:18:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was so weird and I wanted it to go further and get fucked up, that would have been award worthy.

Powerwolf_ink ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:10:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When will Hollywood stop giving all the best female roles to men!?

wlzai ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:33:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

U mean World's Greatest Grandma award?

xDermo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:35:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shouldnโ€™t Michelle Pfeiffer get the award for playing Paul Rudd playing Antman? /s

BostonBoroBongs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:20:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Reminded me of that spy as Beyonce in Goldmember

Zealot_Alec ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Only Jack Black playing a teenage girl in Jumanji 2 was more convincing

MoonwalkerX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:52 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Best actress?

Fandemonium ยท 1305 points ยท Posted at 01:55:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Paul Rudd nailed it...as World's Best Grandma

JimmyScramblesIsHot ยท 464 points ยท Posted at 12:40:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That payoff near the end for the Worldโ€™s Best Grandma joke was perfect. I was getting all teary eyed at Cassie saying she wants to be her dadโ€™s partner and all and then right as I think sheโ€™s going to say heโ€™s the best dad she brings back that joke. Perfect pay-off.

Worthyness ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 06:45:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also they really set her up for becoming a superhero in the future (like her comics counterpart). She might actually be really important in Avengers 4 (they had a casting release for a teenaged version of Cassie since actual cassie can't be aged up).

KingOfAwesometonia ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 19:21:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thinking about it, it'd be a bummer if that kid gets replaced. She's really good and it'd be nice to see it be consistent.

Of course a good child actor doesn't make for a good adult actor. And it would be some looooong term planning.

Worthyness ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:32:02 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's fine. I figure Kamala Khan i somewhere on the way. So wait a couple years to develop and manage that IP. By the time she gets to actual teenager age, she can play Statuure with Kamala Khan and a slightly older Peter Parker as the lead. Maybe have Kate Bishop trained by Hawkeye

jake_a_palooza ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:24 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We shall watch her career with great interest

Trafalgar_Lol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:42:36 on October 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Martel732 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 07:38:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

With the time vortex name drop at the end, it is quite possible that they will travel to the future. Maybe Cassie is one of the free heroes on a post-apocalyptic Earth.

dra39437 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 13:02:22 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Days of future ants

IReallyLoveAvocados ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:10 on November 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well actually if he gets time dropped in the past then when they get to 2018 he will be grandma aged.

ithinkther41am ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:22:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

since actual Cassie canโ€™t be aged up

looks at opening scene

You sure about that?

Winston_Road ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:13:01 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I seriously thought they recasted Cassie's actress.

Then I remembered how much kids can grow in just three years.

popop143 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 09:57:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And he briefly became a Grandma while being possessed by Janet.

amirchukart ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:56:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But janets not a grandma....unless....oh no

Easilycrazyhat ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:38:47 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Step-grandma

jsun31 ยท 3885 points ยท Posted at 01:50:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott being possessed by Janet has to be one of the most hilarious moments in the MCU.

"That's not a disguise, it's just ourselves at a baseball game" love that Marvel got meta with their most used disguise.

[deleted] ยท 1510 points ยท Posted at 01:52:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be honest I almost expected him to kiss Hank.

BunyipPouch ยท 1037 points ยท Posted at 02:06:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A Michelle Pfeiffer-possesed body kissing Michael Douglas while Evangeline Lilly watches has always been my fetish. So mad it didn't happen.

MoreGull ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 03:31:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's a specific fetish.

TheAquaman ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 04:08:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
HooptyDooDooMeister ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:54:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
redname325 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:00:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oddly specific

talones ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 03:37:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Michelle was looking DAMN good in this movie. Great to see her in a comic book film again after almost 30 years.

RedXerzk ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 03:39:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A Michelle Pfeiffer-possesed body kissing Michael Douglas while Evangeline Lilly watches has always been my fetish.

That body being Paul Rudd.

Worthyness ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 05:56:55 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Paul Rudd with abs

FogSeeFrank ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:07:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Speaking of fetishes that giant/small stuff going on really awakened some things in meโ€ฆ Most specifically in the broom closet.

MoreGull ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:06:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn now I am all filled with up to date postments, yes.

ThePresidentsRubies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loved it all, and I just love Michelle Pheiffer and itโ€™s so badass sheโ€™s in the marvel universe

BrettfordMcGee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:03:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Say yes Scott...

LavastormSW ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:44:54 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Me too!!

FriendlyGhost811 ยท 620 points ยท Posted at 01:54:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When Scott woke up and realized he was holding hands with Hank was hilarious.

1337speak ยท 526 points ยท Posted at 02:50:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Paul Rudd as Scott Lang is just so fucking perfect

KoalaBackfist ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 02:17:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I immediately thought of X-Men when Jean is talking through Xavier! Except this one worked better.

StrayDogThaGAWD ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:23:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good call.

TransformYaFoo ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 02:38:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Except this one worked better.

Fuck no.

BenDTU ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 12:00:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And then it worked perfectly later with Pym disguising himself as FBI, lol.

SundaySermon ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 16:56:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He looked a bit like Stan in that get up and thatโ€™s where I thought they were setting up the cameo.

SteezVanNoten ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:52:25 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ughhh why didn't they?! Pym rushing out of the station barges through a door and almost crashes into Officer Stan whom he looks just like and they have a quick awkward staredown and then move on. He looked exactly like Stan!

mr_popcorn ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 15:22:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It is the most heartwarming moment of the movie and also the most hilarious one. Paul Rudd imitating Michelle Pfeiffer was note perfect ๐Ÿ˜‚

cans4812 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:41:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A dude play the dude who's possessed by another dude. Awesome

MasterofSciFi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:05:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was disappointed they didn't mention the hoodies, but it was nice.

GetReady4Action ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:39:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In my head I was like โ€œtell that to Cap in Winter Solider.โ€

mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:03 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was so hilarious!!!!!

Takuza ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:02 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If the people in my audience weren't laughing I wouldn't have known it was meant to be funny.

partycrabs ยท 1791 points ยท Posted at 01:52:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That last post credits scene was fuckin eerie

dunndaze ยท 1343 points ยท Posted at 01:54:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really want to see more of the post snap world. Seeing the TVs with the alarm was a good taste of that.

BunyipPouch ยท 569 points ยท Posted at 02:06:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just watch the pilot episode of The Leftovers.

ryantyrant ยท 427 points ยท Posted at 02:24:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The leftovers was only 2%, the snap was 50. Damn apocalyptic

Mushroomer ยท 270 points ยท Posted at 02:48:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Major spoilers for the final episode of The Leftovers.

In the finale, Carrie Coon describes her visit to the reality where the 2% stayed - and 98% of humanity was gone in an instant. It's one of the most haunting depictions of an apocalypse I've ever heard.

Dino1482 ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 04:15:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Kalidah ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 12:12:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really like this interpretation too because it suits the characters, but also worth noting that Carrie and the showrunners were very suprised that alot of viewers saw it that way to the point that I don't believe it was originally intended

evacipated ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:57:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'll keep this hidden down here so that people can keep their own interpretation, but there's another little piece of evidence that points in a certain direction.>! Lindelof has gone on record and said that when they shot the pilot, they wanted to film a scene from the baby's perspective -- his mother disappears, the abandoned boy's father is there, etc., essentially confirming Nora's story as truth -- but the director wasn't the most cooperative and said he was tired and done for the day.!<

Ultimately, I think a somewhat ambiguous ending was the right choice. It was a perfect cap to the series, and they stuck the landing.

DicksDongs ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:51:52 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's quite clear they originally intended for her answer to be ambiguous. Literally the entire plot of that episode was about lying.

Sup_Computerz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:47:15 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought they were surprised by the opposite, that as many people DIDN'T think she was lying.

It's fuckin Carrie Coon, she sold it hard.

ClementineCarson ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:42:49 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lindelof said after seeing her act it he believed it might be true

indochris609 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:06:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As in, one interpretation of her visiting the other world is all made up?? I never knew that was an interpretation of what happened. I just saw it for what it seemed to be, the alternate reality of what we see. I loved it from that perspective. Would love to read more about that perspective of it being made up though....

DicksDongs ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 11:55:28 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that entire episode is framed in a way that heavily implies she's lying. It's 50/50 as to whether or not she's telling the truth.

The point is it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if she's telling the truth. It's about her having moved on, and Kevin finding a way for them to be together.

indochris609 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:41:28 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm looking forward to going back and rewatching it. So the whole time she's on "the other side" is potentially framed as her making it up?

DicksDongs ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:52:53 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah rewatch that episode. It looks like Nora is about to cry out just before the liquid covers her head, like she's just about to shout "Stop!", but she could also just be taking one last gasping breath.

Then the rest of the episode it's about knowingly lying and living with your sins. For example remember she confronts the nun over sleeping with that guy, and she knows the nun is lying, she caught her red-handed, but the nun knowingly lies. Plus the themes of that episode, IIRC, is about how knowingly lying. IIRC the doves represent wishes or something, or hopes, and Nora is the one who collects the doves after and she talks about how it's all just nonsense. But remember the bride and groom speak to them and basically relay a message about how it's good to make these wishes and being free of sins or secrets or something.

I'm tired but basically, tl;dr, the entire episode is about letting go and lying. Plus Nora's story doesn't completely add up. For example, why would she just leave her kids and then come back? She does give you a justification, but if you notice you never see anything in this other world she said she traveled to. You just take her on her word.

But at the same time there's equal evidence that she's telling the truth. The way the scene is shot when she tell the story is exactly the same as a different character who told a true story a few episodes before.

Tl;dr, it's 50/50. Personally I think she was lying. But it doesn't matter, I would've said the same thing as Kevin.

indochris609 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:49:27 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man that is absolutely fascinating. Thank you for taking the time to type all that out. Can't wait to rewatch it.

I guess my only remaining question is - at what point is it made up? Does the machine just cause her to hallucinate? Is the machine real at all?

DicksDongs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:07 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Remember they don't know if the machine just vaporizes people or not? Even the people on the project, the recruiters, say the reason they don't go through is because they don't know where they'll end up. They could just appear floating in space with the rest of the 2% and die immediately. Plus the project is sort of.. vague. Shady seeming. It's ambiguous as to whether or not it's all just a big scam remember.

So, basically, it'd be made up from the moment we last see Nora. That part where it seems like she's about to cry out just before the liquid covers her head. She cries out "Stop" and they stop the machine and she leaves and runs away to Australia.

Her story isn't her halucinating, it's her knowingly lying. Telling a story that she knows isn't true but the point is this is how she copes. This is the story she tells to show that she's moved on from her family. Kevin knows this, that's why he tells her he believes her. It doesn't matter if it's true, all that matters is that she's moved on and this is her way of telling Kevin that, and Kevin's telling her that he just wants to be with her.

Then again she does say she never told him this because she was worried that he wouldn't believe her. And that's when he tells her he believes her. Her story is sort of implausible, but there's pretty much equal evidence either way. It's 50/50.

indochris609 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:12:55 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Holy crap dude. Thatโ€™s incredible and I canโ€™t believe I didnโ€™t catch that it is ambiguous! Makes me love the show even more. Thanks again for writing all that out, it really helped me better understand the show.

fax5jrj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:39 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry 3 days late to this but I donโ€™t think weโ€™re supposed to believe anything. I think they genuinely just left it for us to assume

GUSHandGO ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:43:24 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think she lied too... because if she is telling the truth, having her tell the story instead allowing the audience to experience it with her is so incredibly underwhelming. I enjoyed the series but I hated the finale.

PM_ME_CUTE_SM1LE ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:11:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have seen this show pop up in this thread a lot (i have never seen it). should i check it out even though i have seen that it had been cancelled? i don't want to be left with no closure at the end of the last season

haven't clicked on your spoiler

ryantyrant ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 11:32:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Excellent drama which expertly depicts grief and loss, the show isn't about trying to figure out where everyone disappeared to, but more of a character study on those left behind, the leftovers.

WarriorMadness ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:01:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is gonna be a stupid question but... Do they still explain where the others disappeared to though? I understand that the show is not really about that but the consequences like you explained, but I can't help it, with this kind of shows I always want to know why it happened...

ryantyrant ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:47:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

that's a hard question to answer without getting into spoilers. like I said, it's really not about that. I guess the best way I could put it is that they give you enough to satisfy you if you really wanna know what happened. How reliable the narrator is that explains it, is up to you to decide.

WarriorMadness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, you can spoil if you want, I watched just like a couple episodes of Season 1 went it first came up, I liked the premise but just dropped it after some time.

I don't plan to watch it, but that question always remained in my head.

Thank you for the answer also!

CapeBusters ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:19:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's not technically a spoiler since it's just a monologue from the last episode and has no impact on the show's plot, so... There seems to have been a natural phenomenon that split the Earth's population across two parallel dimensions. 98% of people in one, 2% in the other. Everything other than people was perfectly duplicated. Each group experienced the event in the same way, in which everybody else left from their point of view.

The show has more to do with how a person handles their core beliefs coming into question. For some this is the birth of a new religion. Others lose faith. The phenomenon is only ever explained to give closure to the audience, through the eyes of one of the characters. The search for meaning in this show is more important than the answer.

DicksDongs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:57:09 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is about your Leftovers question: Do we ever find out what happens to the 2%?

It's 50/50. You get told a story and it's up to you whether or not you believe it. Half the people you speak to will say it's a lie, the other half will say it's true.

WarriorMadness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:12 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like that about it, kind of like the OA, where you get clues to tell if the story the main character is telling is true or not, but at the end of the day is up to the viewers pretty much.

DicksDongs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:57 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. I just thought I should tell you because you told the guy that it's alright to spoil it for you. But the answer to "Do you ever find out what happened to them?" can be both yes and no. That's why the answer you get if you ask it is "You get told a story and it's up to you whether or not it's the truth".

WarriorMadness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:50 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you! He also told me that actually, just that he DM'ed the answer. :)

EFG ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:01:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And the soundtrack is haunting.

pinodonaggiibro ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 11:33:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah itโ€™s the greatest show ever made

OkSayer ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:58:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Totally agree. Nothing has moved me quite like that show.

PM_ME_CUTE_SM1LE ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:34:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

thanks! here goes my Friday

Mushroomer ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:23:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

While it only ran three seasons, the show was able to end on its own terms. It has a very satsifying ending, and is one of the best shows to come around in a real long time.

The first season isn't always great - but once you hit season 2, it is astonishing.

BaldyMcBadAss ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:40:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well worth watching. First season is a little bumpy but holy shit, second season is one of my favorite stand alone seasons of any television show. Third season is okay, decent wrap up to the story but not as strong as season two.

socraticmethod88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:10:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Actually just finished the series for the first time today. I was motivated after I saw the beginning of your comment but didnโ€™t continue further. Donโ€™t think thatโ€™s the direction the Marvel Universe will go in but wow what an amazing ending. And having the explanation given through a characterโ€™s story really suspends the mystery.

MikeyDeez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's even sadder knowing that the apocalypse world is the "happy ending" she's more or less lying to herself about in order to live with the stark/hopeless reality that they're nowhere.

Gorrondonuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:59 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah... or did she just make that up? Does it even matter if she did? Why do I love the Leftovers so much??!

creutzfeldtz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:50 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And it was also a made up story

jramos13 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 02:37:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And then just watch the entire series because itโ€™s freaking amazing.

toxicbrew ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:17:04 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Watched only one season. Just felt it was... Annoying, especially the Remnant

PM_ME_CAKE ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:26:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just? Once you're watching The Leftovers, you rightfully go ahead and watch all of it.

Collier1505 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:35:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™ve heard a lot about this show, any good?

tetayk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:32:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Carrie Coon is also voice Proxima Midnight

ArexBawrin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:24:10 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It is. Itโ€™s depressing as shit though. First season is the worst. And then they completely flip the colors/styles/settings/music for seasons 2&3. And those two seasons are some of the best Iโ€™ve seen on TV in a while.

Collier1505 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:34:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™ll check it out today then. I like shows like that. Plus HBO basically canโ€™t do wrong in my eyes.

toxicbrew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:36 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not for long if the me att CEO has his way and pushes quantity over quality. They can just do that with Cinemax and let hbo be the quality home it always has been

iffy360 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:38 on October 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is the leftovers worth a watch?

FOUREYES69 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:43:40 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This wonโ€™t happen, but holy shit I would LOVE if Daredevil season 3 was just Daredevil trying to keep everything together and deal with the inevitable anarchy that would be post-snap New York.

DMPunk ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:31:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did Agents of SHIELD get renewed?

Malachi108 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:04:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, but Season 6 will only begin airing after Avengers 4, so no post-Snap world news from them.

A_Feathered_Raptor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really want the next Avengers to take place like a year after the snap.

TreyWriter ยท 486 points ยท Posted at 02:11:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man and the Wasp will return?

roneman815 ยท 458 points ยท Posted at 02:14:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm Ron Burgundy?

Jhonopolis ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:17:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Go fuck yourself San Diego.

MoreGull ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:34:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"He'll read whatever you put on the Tele-Prompter."

mr_popcorn ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:42:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Great Odin's raven!

BRAND_NEW_GUY25 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:42:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would've preferred if it just said Ant-man will return since Wasps got snapped

Collier1505 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:36:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Heโ€™s stuck in the Quantum Realm with โ€œno way outโ€ though so I see why they would include him.

smokeyb15 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:21:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why is Ant-Man and Wasp?

PiFlavoredPie ยท 951 points ยท Posted at 02:16:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really hope most people ultimately grasp that the eerieness of the post credit scene is not undercut by the ant drumming. Yes there is a blatant element of humor at play, but the idea of this programmed ant going through its routine while the world has gone to hell is damn morbid.

Pjman87 ยท 504 points ยท Posted at 03:04:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Theres a short story written in the 50s where a nuclear war occurred, but an automated smart house has survived, and tries to go its day until the lack of infrastructure and refill of food and water destroys it. But yeah, not an ant, but somewhat the same theme. I canโ€™t remember the title though...

Edit: There Will Come Soft Rain by Ray Bradbury. Thank you, /u/McMqsmith

prettyflywhiteguy14 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 03:11:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, we read this in school. Itโ€™s by Ray Bradbury. I forget the name too though

blitzbandit ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:39:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
meech7607 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 07:42:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's interesting. I wonder if that's where they got the idea in Fallout 4. After you leave the vault and go back to your house your robo Butler is still there trying to maintain it.

Flashman420 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 16:06:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

110%. The Fallout series has a lot of different post-apoc sci-fi references, that's for sure one too. It's too iconic of a story for them to not know.

hemareddit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:15:58 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thereโ€™s also a very direct depiction of the short story in Fallout 3.

McMqsmith ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:26:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There Will Come Soft Rains by Ray Bradbury. I teach that story!

Jarrgon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:09 on August 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught that story!

Knarpulous ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:26:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Ivanopolis ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:47:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just from the description, I knew it had to be Bradbury.

freelywheely ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:51:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ray Bradbury..

5213 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:40:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Of course it's by Bradbury

MY-SECRET-REDDIT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:07:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

theres also this radio play with a very similar premise.

its from the podcast, the truth, which i would recommend if you like science fiction. its not a sci fi podcast, but it has lots of them.

Radi0ActivSquid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:51:27 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's also a short where humanity was wiped out but our machines keep fighting on an automated scale. From the mining for materials, to weapon construction, to bombing runs and repairs. All on repeat with nothing left to kill or blow up.

https://vimeo.com/67768281

GiantAnimeMech ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:45:48 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There was a very well done reading I caught on NPR diving home at 11 PM one day. Driving across desolate backroads made it all the better.

WillWorkForScale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:41 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Reminds me of that episode of The Truth, "The Dark End of the Mall".

Martel732 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 07:36:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I saw some comments saying it was pointless, but in a way I thought it was more haunting than the first post credits scene. Maybe being a slight comment on the film itself. Ant-man was a fun movie but it is also distraction from the traumatic ending of Avengers.

neeesus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:13:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That any went through the routine of Scott when Scott wasn't around. This look at the Post Snap MCU could be at any point. It's pretty chilling and achieved a massively eerie tone after a pretty funny movie. Perfectly balanced.

An_Innocent_Bunny ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:59:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also, people forget that half of all life in the universe was destroyed, not just human life. The ant was also lucky to be alive.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:48:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think it was just sentient life. Because sentient life is what uses up resources so much.

thecricketnerd ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:32:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Insects are generally pretty important to the ecosystem anyway, wouldn't make sense to get rid of them.

Shortstop88 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:47:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't really register anything about the eerieness of that scene. I heard the drumming and knew it was the ant, so I got a laugh out of that. Noticed the television screen was odd but didn't think too much on it.

Batman_00 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:45:00 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was so focused on the ant that I didn't even notice any alarms.

roneman815 ยท 264 points ยท Posted at 01:59:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When it fades to black with just the emergency broadcast signal...

TheresOnly1GaryKing ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 02:14:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's all over

But the crying

And nobody's crying

But me

PeteOverdrive ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:56:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Infinity War, Infinity War never changes.

frinkhutz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:47:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't look at the sky

HardcoreKaraoke ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 04:19:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just think of the Nick Fury after credits scene. Within a second billions of people disappeared. Millions of drivers, pilots, utility workers, etc. just disappeared as they were operating heavy machinery. Think of the insane amount of damage that did.

Sure some people may come back if the snap is reversed, but what about the millions who just died? People on boats who were left without a captain. People on trains without a conductor. People on a plane without a pilot. People just walking around and had a building fall on them because something crashed into it.

It's going to take a lot more than the Avengers just reversing the snap. They're either going for the time travel angle (which I'd prefer they didn't) or they have to acknowledge a lot of people are dead and there's nothing they can do to fix the collateral damage.

Malachi108 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 10:09:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or they go Multiverse route: go back in time and defeat Thanos before he even gets the Stones, but then they return back to their time and half of everyone is still gone. They only make an alternate timeline, which all future movies will be set in, while the original timeline is simply fucked.

Winston_Road ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:47:22 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Look on down from the bridge

IcedThatGuy ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 01:55:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But then hilarious!

woofle07 ยท 172 points ยท Posted at 02:09:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's hilarious on the surface, but really unnerving when you think about it. The entire world has gone to hell. You can hear sirens and screaming out the window. And here's this ant, just doing exactly what it was programmed to do. Play drums, watch tv, take bath, sleep. Completely oblivious to the horror going on outside Scott's house.

IcedThatGuy ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 03:05:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True. I love how chillingly empty the world is. The cut tv signal was a cool way of driving that point home too

LetMePointItOut ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:27:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It seems like a TV signal would be something the remaining half would get up and running pretty fast.

Space-Jawa ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:21:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

1) We don't know how many people are still left at the TV station to get the signal back up and running, or if any of those people know how to work the signal.

2) I wouldn't be so sure that getting the signal back up and running would be an immediate priority for any survivors on scene in that particular scenario.

partycrabs ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:58:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder if ants can get snapped...

2th ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 02:29:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No need for it. Seagulls keep the ant population under control.

StraY_WolF ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:28:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We're gonna need a bigger Seagulls.

Xeta1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:44:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Perfectly balanced.

theavenged ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:46:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't thanos say half of all life?

forgotmypassword777 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:48:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If he snaps half of all life, how does that help with hunger/famine like heโ€™s claiming? Life eats life.

Malachi108 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:06:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It could include half of all animals, but at least we know the plants were definitely not affected.

In_My_Own_Image ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 02:23:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Okay, but how the fuck did they get an ant to mimic things like lounging on a couch like a human or playing drums?

And don't you fucking dare say "Pym Particles".

[deleted] ยท 116 points ยท Posted at 02:42:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Speed Force

EpicLatios ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:48:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ain't gotta explain shit

onlyididntsayfudge ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:08:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œAntโ€ gotta explain shit.

SolracM ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:51:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This pun, I like it. ANOTHER!

Space-Jawa ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:22:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ANT-NOTHER!?

Flamma_Man ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 02:58:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They said that they gave the ant orders to follow Scott's daily schedule, so in the post-credit scene it was still repeating it, since it was never told to stop.

As for how it can play the drums? Because it's funny.

methos3 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:04:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean shit, they can operate a fucking laser torch so playing the drums doesn't sound too much harder.

IcedThatGuy ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 03:03:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha. I donโ€™t think he was supposed to mimic those actions. I think the ant wanted to do those things. I donโ€™t think the ant was supposed to roleplay as Scott, which is why he ate the shit out of all of his plants. He just wanted to eat junk food and not work, or lay in a pool of water, or use his many arms to make loud noises.

But... also, Pym Particles.

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:33:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank literally said that they trained/programmed (I forget the exact phrasing) the ant to mimic Scott's routine.

TheSaladDays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:42 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think he said train/program. It seems like in the Ant-Man universe, ants are smarter and have more autonomy (at times) compared to actual ants.

For example, the scene where the ant tried to knock over the plant and the scene where it's eating cereal. I doubt they trained/programmed it to do either of those things

Everyoneheresamoron ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:35:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The ant probably learned to play drums on his own. They're pretty smart you know.

TheManInTheWall ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:02:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Probably Vibranium

Tmlboost ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:45:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well if the last movie showed us, they use the ear transmitter piece thing to control ants to do their bidding, how much trouble would it be to program one to make the ant do crazy shit

Maple_Syrup_Mogul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They can mind control insects.

ashishvp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

At least we know Thanos doesn't care about ants!

Dontalay ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:43:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It literally comes out of nowhere. It hits you as hard as it would as if it were to really happen if you had no knowledge that the fight for the fate of university was happening.

kbuis ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:48:28 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Especially since it was set up as this happy cute moment in the trailers.

โ€œOh look that ant is playing the drumsโ€ is now โ€œoh look that ant is playing the drums and half the world is gone.โ€

LavastormSW ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:47:43 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Half the universe is gone.

delicious_tomato ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:22:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Soooo... being out of the country, they cut the film short after credits.

Iโ€™m told there were two.

If you wanna throw a spoiler blackout thatโ€™s cool, but I would love to know exactly what they are. YT just gave a breakdown and analysis, Iโ€™d prefer to just see the clips or get the breakdown, either way is cool

LavastormSW ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:52:35 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scene one: Ant-Man goes into the quantum realm to get more "quantum healing particles" for Ghost. They're counting down to bring him out and "five... four... three... two..." static. Cut back to three piles of dust floating at the control panel.

Scene two: Inside Scott's apartment. Pan down the hallway. There's the ant mimicking Scott's daily routine, playing on the drums. There's an emergency broadcast tone playing on the TV as the camera passes it. Cut to black. The tone fades out.

The words "Antman and the Wasp will return." appear... and the period changes to a question mark.

delicious_tomato ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:40:40 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wish I could have seen this, but thank you very much for giving a solid description!

That said ... I'm now wondering if Pym's wife will have to go there to retrieve him since she's clearly the most experienced, if Ghost will become an anti-hero along the lines of Winter Soldier, etc.

It will be an interesting ride, and with the events of "Infinity War", "Civil War", I wonder if they will even bother addressing that, they certainly didn't address either of those things this time, which I find strange.

LavastormSW ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:01:34 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, those three piles of dust were Pym, his wife, and Hope. Should've specified, sorry.

And on the contrary, they did address Civil War in this movie,quite a bit. That was the entire reason that Scott was on house arrest, because he went to Germany and fought against Iron Man. Hope keeps arguing with him about it and that's why he has to keep rushing home to evade the FBI so he doesn't go to jail for twenty years.

As for Infinity War, I'd say they addressed it quite strikingly. This movie happened at the same time as IW, since they were turned to dust in the end credits scene. No doubt there will be fallout from IW all throughout Phase 4 of Marvel's plan. You can't really fault this movie for not addressing Infinity War, since while it came out after IW it still took place during it.

Zankwa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:55:47 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Could've sworn the aftercredit scene started from the outside of Scott's apartment, showing a door stuck open as if someone had just opened it. So it might hint that his ex, her new husband, and/or Cassie might've opened it and either been dusted too or they escaped outside in the Snap's panic.

LavastormSW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:05 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe! I don't remember.

meech7607 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:44:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I missed it.. I read online that there was the mid credits scene and then that the post credits scene was just the ant drumming again? What else happens?

Malachi108 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:10:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The point of the Ant drumming scene was to show that the Snap had happened, but the ant didn't care.

asher1611 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:23:09 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The ant drumming scene is classic juxtaposition. The point is not the drumming, but to compare what is going on in the apartment to the world around it. Where everything has gone straight to shit.

Zankwa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:54:12 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The ant's drumming, sure. But the scene starts by showing a door left stuck open to Scott's place, a TV stuck on the alert color bars of a TV, and the whole place is empty. The open door would indicate that Scott's wife, the stepfather and/or Cassie were in the house at some point - either they were turned to dust by the snap or someone survived and ran outside.

HotMessMan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:42:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shit I missed it what did it show.

littletoyboat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It also makes no sense. Why was the giant ant still playing the drums? Why was he still giant? Paul Rudd shrunk him down so he could get his ankle bracelet back on. And my wife pointed, why even was the front door open at all?

LupinThe8th ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 02:17:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who cares if he no longer needs to do it. If I had a giant ant trained to play the drums, I'd declare him my new best friend.

Velorium_Camper ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:17:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And I would start a band. Alien Human Farm.

13inchpoop ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:20:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But you would only have one good song and it would be a cover.

MoreGull ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:35:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd take that.

Dippy7985 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:21:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The door could have been opened by someone opening it to check on the commotion outside? As seen in Infinity War people who

littletoyboat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I thought it was great, except I hated the post-credit scene and I was mad I waited for it. Doubly so since the shot is spoiled in the trailer.

partycrabs ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:30:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t think he was ever shrunk down. It looked like the tracker could be pulled right off the antโ€™s leg. He couldโ€™ve been hiding in the bathtub or something when Wu was there.

Zankwa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:12 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought the door was open because maybe his ex, her husband, or Cassie were there before we see the drumming ant. Maybe they were dusted themselves, one of them was, and the other(s) escaped outside to see WTF is going on. The drumming ant was the least of their problems.

neeesus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:16:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because most of those ants are basically pets. Scott got his bracelet off. Who's to say how he spends his life with ants.

neeesus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:17:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

House could have been raised by people needing supplies.

nikiverse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was better than the rest of the movie!

neeesus ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:15:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, nothing compares to the events of Infinity War....

bellsofwar3 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:31:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Am I the only one annoyed that if half the people are gone then at least one should have survived?

mrcydonia ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:56:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was completely random which half of the population got zapped. It wouldn't always be exactly half of any group you happen to be in. All of them could have disappeared, or none of them.

neeesus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:18:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty annoyed that your scope of 50/50 is only what you see in that specific scene.

bellsofwar3 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I get it. It encompasses the world. It's just convenient 100% were gone that scene for "cinematic purposes."

Dragonmind ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:38:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It encompasses the entire universe

UnexpectedNickelback ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:43:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is an ant playing the drums THAT eerie to you?

joshjodalton ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:29:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When you hear screams and sirens outside, with the TV signals all out, then yes. It's freaking terrifying.

GavinDickieBitchFree ยท 1681 points ยท Posted at 01:56:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone else wish they would've cut to Scott crying to The Fault in our Stars while the Avengers were fighting Thanos?

[deleted] ยท 832 points ยท Posted at 02:06:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nivadellir failing to start up the first time was a literal fault in our stars.

YourCummyBear ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 04:45:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's a made up word!

DMPunk ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 05:33:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

All words are made up

[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 10:39:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The u/DMPunk is correct, and clearly the smartest. I assume you are the captain, sir?

DMPunk ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 13:20:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Very perceptive

WhatTheFhtagn ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 09:27:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It bothers me that Thor calls it Nivadellir the first time he says it, but everyone else including him says Nidavellir for the rest of the movie.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:58:14 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I made the same mistake too. Dammit. Drax is going to be so pissed.

JonnTheMartian ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:14:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought I just misheard him...

icouldntquitreddit ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:10:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pls post to /r/moviedetails

MilesTheGoodKing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:40:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You made that word up!

DooRagtime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:19 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ooooooohohohoh

CherryIce4 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:30:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Somebody make this asap

bigmike67 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:09:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought a good one would have been Scott freaking out while reading game of thrones specifically the red wedding

Winston_Road ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:28:47 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seeing how Infinity War ends I think Game of Thrones would have been appropiate.

SS9897 ยท 629 points ยท Posted at 06:21:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As a San Francisco resident, I look forward to the drop in housing prices. /r/thanosdidnothingwrong

MrPMS ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 17:35:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œEven at half the price, I canโ€™t afford this.โ€

CIearMind ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 12:02:42 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is not perfectly balanced. :(

itshuey88 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 05:07:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Watched the movie in kabuki theater and there was an audible gasp as we saw Lombard get destroyed ๐Ÿ˜ญ

CrescentAce ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:49:44 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was it just me or would the characters be in one part of the city and then cut, they would be in a completely different part of the city.

SS9897 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 03:58:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was thinking similar during the movie. They mentioned some streets, but it seems like the third act was mostly in North Beach.

How the fuck did Ant man afford that house in SF if his company was about to go out of business? He had a fucking yard in a house to himself!

Lavotite ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 04:25:53 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i assumed his family bought it in the 60s

nitrousconsumed ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:58:55 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Then why didn't he live in it in the first? Didn't he live in a shithole w all the ex-kons?

itshuey88 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:06:00 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The most unrealistic part of ant man.

Protomancer ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:12:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It would sometimes cut to an entirely different city - Atlanta.

flying_monkey_stick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:52 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Would probably want to make a move quickly before they're brought back in the next film.

TheTrueMarkNutt ยท 2056 points ยท Posted at 01:50:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Hey there champ, how was school today?"

austinsystem ยท 1803 points ยท Posted at 01:52:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Does somebody want a juice box and a cheese stick ??

.. do you have that?

BunyipPouch ยท 329 points ยท Posted at 02:23:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Biggest laugh of the movie in my theater.

thecricketnerd ยท 508 points ยท Posted at 14:34:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Another really good one was Hope saying "that's where I used to hide all the time" and Scott going "I don't think you got the gist of that game".

Worthyness ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 06:19:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott doing those kind of lines is the best. Just completely related but tangential.

SirAdrian0000 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:31:55 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There were a lot of great moments in this film but the hide and seek bit gave me the biggest laugh, probably because of the context of the moment being wholly inappropriate for such a funny line. Great movie.

matthew7s26 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:52:45 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely my favorite.

DMPunk ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 05:31:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

String cheese

_tylerthedestroyer_ ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:14:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do you have any orange slices?

St0rmaggeddon ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 01:54:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It wouldโ€™ve been better too me if hank said orange slices.

StrayDogThaGAWD ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:27:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was fully expecting that!

LupinThe8th ยท 621 points ยท Posted at 02:24:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love how Hank is just an irascible old bastard who gives no fucks. I want to kick him in the nuts and give him a high five at the same time.

StraY_WolF ยท 624 points ยท Posted at 03:36:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Did you destroy the suit?"

That moment when you just know he'll get mad no matter what answer you give.

muhash14 ยท 190 points ยท Posted at 19:26:33 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He did get both answers. And he did get mad both times. It was awesome.

The_Quackening ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 16:16:33 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"It was my life's work!" - hank

later

"It was your life's work!" - scott

Worthyness ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 06:19:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also like how he knows Scott is totally eye fucking (and other stuff) with Hope. Calls him out almost every time

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:56:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hes Rick Sanchez

prettyflywhiteguy14 ยท 369 points ยท Posted at 02:02:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kinda wish that the kids had come back in from recess and Scott had to pretend to be a kid

PiFlavoredPie ยท 179 points ยท Posted at 02:12:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think that wouldโ€™ve been way too much effort to green screen/CGI to make it look cohesive.

unhh ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 00:57:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lord of the Rings only did it for an entire trilogy.

KnightRedeemed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:45:52 on October 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Peter Jackson built this in a CAVE

With a box of SCRAPS

Gr33nman460 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:06:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Probably a deleted scene somewhere in there

dafood48 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:24:02 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A scene with Paul Rudd lining up to go down the slide, having a kid push him on the swings, see saws, etc

swanny246 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:09:44 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It really stood out how they were clearly saving a few bucks there by not having any kids appear at all during the school scenes.

1337speak ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 03:01:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Him running with that parka drenched over him was God damn hilarious, I was dying

boomfruit ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 22:31:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I enjoy your enthusiasm despite the fact that it was a hoodie and drenched means covered in water.

1337speak ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:31:45 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it looked like a spring-style parka but I already forgot, it probably was a hoodie. And yes, I was looking for another verb but you know what I mean lol.

boomfruit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:37:46 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yah I wasn't trying to be mean. Sometimes text is bad for conveying a playful tone.

1337speak ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:40:23 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The message was drenched in bad vibes ;)

YourCummyBear ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 04:25:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love how like uncoordinated they make him look lol. When he normally shrinks he keeps his speed and stuff but when he was running in the sweater he honestly just looked like a 5 year old.

The_Quackening ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:17:35 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

the sleeves that were too long for his arms really sold it.

Sisiwakanamaru ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:54:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I laughed so hard when I heard that.

MasterofSciFi ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:06:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was some Guardians level humor!

fucktopia ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:46:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was my favorite part of the movie, my sister and I were still laughing for a good 2 minutes after the scene had ended.

TonguePunchMyClunge ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:35:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man that was one of the best scenes but the one thing that bugged me was that I thought in Antman 1 Hank basically said that they couldn't open their helmets when they're not normal size and this movie just shat all over that rule.

TheTrueMarkNutt ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:52:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Probably only when they are micro sized, being fun sized probably isn't all that problematic

MC_Fillius_Dickinson ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:13:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What about when Hank and Janet were in the Quantum Realm without their helmets?

Budliezer ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 05:23:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Quantum oxygen

TheTrueMarkNutt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:39:48 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

uhhhhhhh...

GoTron88 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:09:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was just trying to figure out what Janet was eating all those 30 years.

MC_Fillius_Dickinson ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:18:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is what bothered me about the movie. As much as I loved it, the logic was really inconsistent. She was in the Quantum Realm for 30+ years, right? A realm where "all concepts of time and space don't matter", right? So in all that time, how is it that she aged at a normal rate, or at all? If she did age, it implies she also needed food and water and her other physiological functions had to be taken care of as well.

I was kind of expecting her to look exactly the same as she did when she went down there, and that she'd suddenly age when she came out of the Quantum Realm, if at all.

Flexappeal ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:44:56 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant Man has the most fucky โ€œscienceโ€ in the MCU outside of literal magic. You kinda have to just let it be.

shiny_dunsparce ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 11:45:08 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Do you guys just put Quantum in front of everything?" - Paul Rudd speaking for the audience

Collegenoob ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:23:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They can't open their helmets while shrinking. Besides that, need facetime foe the actors

Yourfavoriteindian ยท 2396 points ยท Posted at 01:52:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Michael Peรฑa and his crew stole every scene they were in, that interrogation scene had our whole theater in stitches

KoalaBackfist ยท 1129 points ยท Posted at 02:25:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The part where they're making out and Paul just starts riffing was hilarious. I love how they use head snaps to put emphasis on Penas delivery. Seems almost involuntary.

_Discordian ยท 1023 points ยท Posted at 02:44:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The long-winded explanations were some of my favorite parts in the first movie, almost like a subtle deconstruction of flashback narration. The only thing I think this one was missing (or maybe I missed it) was him talking about an unexpected hobby:

"I was at a wine tasting with my cousin Ernesto, which was mainly reds, and you know I don't like reds, man, you know it, but there was this rose that saved the day, it was delightful"

"And there was like this abstract expressionism exhibit, but you know me, I'm more like a neo-cubist kind of guy"

viir ยท 727 points ยท Posted at 03:01:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He talked about his abuelitas Moz jukebox

Eddy209Part2 ยท 430 points ยท Posted at 04:17:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ok, so let me just preface this by saying that I'm Mexican. It was kind of an inside/low key fact that Mexican-Americans love Morrisey (I like Morrisey too, but found it so strange that he has so many Latino superfans).

hobocode ยท 163 points ยท Posted at 04:55:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I worked at a video store in the nineties and a large part of my special orders were Latinos ordering Morrisey videos. Iโ€™d have to dig up these obscure concerts and videos(vhs, betamax, laserdisc) on microfilm and order them via mail. Took about two weeks.

It wasnโ€™t mostly Latinos ordering Morrisey videos, it was only Latinos ordering Morrisey videos.

bloodflart ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 13:00:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

that was his ringtone for Michael pena right

Quetzythejedi ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 09:02:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's even a Mexican "supergroup" called Mexrrissey that does great renditions of Morrissey and The Smiths songs. Also a documentary called "Is It Really So Strange" which tries to go into why there's this connection.

True_to_you ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:08:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They were actually featured in one of the trailers

Quetzythejedi ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:50:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Went and looked for that one. Thanks!

Sepik121 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:27:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mexrissey's album that came out in 2016 (somewhere around there) was one of my favorite things that I've listened to in a long while. So good

Quetzythejedi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:51:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah it was really good. Saw then in San Francisco last year it's so cool how they transform the music into their own.

Eddy209Part2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:58:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks, I'm gonna check out that doc.

Cerati ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 06:58:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mexican here, we were laughing our heads off at Morrissey references. Five of us, all Morrissey fans.

MyUsernameIsJudge ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 13:32:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They dig his melancholy ballads.

brady2gronk ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:49:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I had no idea about Mexicans and Morrissey. Is that like Germans and David Hasselhoff?

Eddy209Part2 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:42:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Essentially, but with actual talent.

True_to_you ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:10:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's kinda funny. I saw Johnny Marr of the smiths live a few years ago and stood next to a cholo covered with tattoos and piercings crying when Johnny got around to playing smiths songs. Was awesome to see.

Randyfreakingmarsh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:57:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha thatโ€™s pretty cool, I assumed it was just random

Seymour_Scagnetti ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:29:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is it really so, really so strange?

viir ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:02:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What was the exact quote about it? I canโ€™t seem to find it online

Flemz ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:51:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Every song on his Abuelita's jukebox was Morrisey

[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:38:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And then later in the movie when he calls Scott his ringtone is Morrisey

johnlockerr ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 08:26:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

and appropriately, itโ€™s Every Day is Like Sunday

paranoidbillionaire ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:35:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When I heard โ€œFirst of the Gang to Dieโ€ I got all misty-eyed.

_Discordian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, you're right, I remember something about that. Guess I'll correct my ignorance when I watch it again this weekend ;)

iamtheonlyphil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And Scotts ringtone for him is Morrissey a couple scenes later

Rahgahnah ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 14:18:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love the simple joke/trope of the seemingly simple-minded lowlife kinda guy actually being cultured af.

rohay ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:01:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like that he still has his one punch power

_Discordian ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:14:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely.

taser

taser

punch

wildontherun ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:45:17 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love that his hobbies are all high-brow bougie stuff

Vranak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:15:06 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ok now I have to see the first one!

dafood48 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:26:53 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That Asian chick doing the head snap when she says โ€œyou gotta be more SPECIFICโ€ in the first movie always sticks with me.

haildecoysnail ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:56:28 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

head snaps

snaps

snap

TRIGGERED

bellsofwar3 ยท 867 points ยท Posted at 02:34:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When she pops up out of nowhere "Baba yaga!" Lol that had me laughing quite a bit.

xxx117 ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 13:08:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

he was so pale and scared it was hilarious lol just rocking back and forth looking down hahaha

dafood48 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 02:29:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This guy made it so genuine too. When he makes a small nudge at Hank and confidently asks him you know who Baba Yaga is right just because he is old reminds me of the Russian IT guys at my job.

Worthyness ยท 103 points ยท Posted at 06:16:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love that he was singing the nursery rhyme for Baba Yaga when she popped out and ran away

baconandbobabegger ยท 214 points ยท Posted at 05:12:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

With a fucking pencil

dave-a-sarus ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:23:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

*fooking

baconandbobabegger ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:42:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Penseel*

evetsleep ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 14:23:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
jcutta ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 04:24:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My Russian friend was losing it every time they said "Baba Yaga"

[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:28:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I watched this movie on Russia - it got the biggest laugh of any scene in the movie.

dafood48 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 02:27:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The entire time I was fantasizing a John wick cameo in this movie after he said that

HenyrD ยท 170 points ยท Posted at 03:34:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The truth serum scenes where so damn funny hahahahaha

mr_popcorn ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 15:41:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But there's no such thing as a truth serum! ๐Ÿ˜‚

devilslaughters ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 11:38:56 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If it walks like a duck and talsl like a duck, it's probably a truth serum.

_Discordian ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 02:11:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They need their own movie.

BearBreastBaller ยท 212 points ยท Posted at 02:42:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He could be "Just A Suit With No Powers - Man'

_Discordian ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 02:46:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Their team name will obviously be X-Con. That had to be a reference.

Dominus-Temporis ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 09:36:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And then they fight aliens? :D

FuttleScish ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:11:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

X-CON: My Cousin Once Met An Unknown Enemy

MoreGull ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:32:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's Knockout Man. Everyone he punches goes to sleep.

Worthyness ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 06:17:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Juan Punch Man

StayPuffGoomba ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:38:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really expected him to be in the giant suit as Scott escaped in the end.

PenXSword ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 03:05:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They need to bring back the Marvel One Shots, because those shorts were fun, a great world-building tool, and make great companion pieces to the main movies.

_Discordian ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:17:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One of my countless reasons for loving the Spider-Man movie was Peter's videos near the beginning, which had that one-shot feeling.

PenXSword ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:32:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't mind more of Peter's video blogs. Especially if the suit records them, with Karen providing some commentary. Jennifer Connelly was my first celeb crush, and she has an amazing voice.

_Discordian ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:33:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Two of the things we were robbed of in IW: Karen, and Peter trying to use Instant Kill on Thanos.

haildecoysnail ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:59:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ooh ooh I never thought about that! I've always been curious what the fuck the inetant kill mode does. Shouldve used it on Thanos, Peter!!!

bloodflart ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:00:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd watch a show of them where antman randomly pops up

ashishvp ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:25:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Statistically speaking, 1 or 2 of them need to not be dust first.

_Discordian ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:30:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Here's why they live:

Dave: "This is bullshit. You already killed like half the black people in the MCU, including Nick Fury!" (spared)

Kurt: makes a sign against witchcraft (spared)

Luis: "So what had happened was I was hanging out with my nephew Jose, you remember him, right? And we were down at his place, which used to be his parents' place back in the day, and he just got out of college and has some baller bank job and shit, and he was grilling a lot of burgers, but you know I like some chicken breast on that bun, but he had Cholula, so it was cool. So anyway, I saw Mrs. Johnson, you know the nice elderly widow across the street, turn to dust or something man, and we all dropped to our knees and prayed to Jesus, and here I am man." (spared)

boomfruit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:29:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd watch a TV show about the security company.

ezioaltair12 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:50:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There were gasps of anticipation and whoops when the cue for Luis' story kicked in

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:38:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yooooo! This man had me in stitches during the truth serum scene

5213 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:47:17 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

TI kills it in this role. The group have such great chemistry. I would definitely appreciate TI in more comedic roles

safetydance ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:01:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Michael Peรฑa seems to steal every scene in each and every movie I've seen him in. I always think why isn't this guy a bigger star? He's consistently excellent in everything and hilarious.

Flexappeal ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:35:47 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Heโ€™s not a leading man but he gets plenty of good character actor work. Fury and The Martian come to mind (even if he didnโ€™t have much to say in the latter).

toadtruck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:05 on July 30, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They just released his own Netflix movie. Extinction.

arghnard ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:24:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He should narrate Infinity War.

Shifter25 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:02:45 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Like Baba Yaga...

NRDL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:04 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

IT'S NOT TRUTH SERUM

umagrandepilinha ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 09:52:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wtf are you talking about?

Yes everyone was great, but T.I. is such a bad and cringey actor that it almost counterbalanced me into not liking those scenes at the X-Con headquarters.

dafood48 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:30:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was laughing when he was giving an interview at the end with his hat barely on his head.

umagrandepilinha ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:31:53 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that hat is ridiculous.

ScubaSteve1219 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 19:08:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i like Pena but TI is really not good in these movies at all

CaptnAwesomeGuy ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 04:38:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Some of the scenes. Others made me want to fast forward tbh

johnlongest ยท 1944 points ยท Posted at 01:57:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I've been saying for so long that shrinking Paul Rudd down to roughly the size of a toddler is the absolute most comedic height for him, and I am over the moon that they finally did it.

TreyWriter ยท 647 points ยท Posted at 02:15:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey champ

[deleted] ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 07:19:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How was school today?

CamelToad88 ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 07:51:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You want a juice box and some string cheese?

Mr_Unknown ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 11:59:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do you actually have that?

locke_5 ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 01:06:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Line from the movie we all just saw

galacticdude7 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 01:52:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
slendermanrises ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:17:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How was school?

MurderousPaper ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:38:07 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I got flashbacks to stubby Ryan Reynolds from DP2.

bigpig1054 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:23:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

All I could think was Bilbo Baggins, it was so good.

zeroGamer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:46:02 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm just sad he didn't get stuck in a run-away wheelchair while he was short.

arghnard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lily Tomlin should have played a cameo in this film.

tompengu ยท 570 points ยท Posted at 05:06:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really like that they steered into Scott's major personality trait being that he's a great dad. It's really nice to have a character like him among the sarcastic jerks (Stark, Quill, Strange, etc.).

bloodflart ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 14:18:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was like 'god I'm a bad dad compared to him' at the start, but he's been locked in the house for 2 years so I'm sure I would have done some crazy shit too

Worthyness ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 07:09:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wanted a Hawkeye + ant-man team up so bad. They're the best Dads in the MCU

DennaResin ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 07:35:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Quips are the main superpower of all Marvel heroes.

_bieber_hole_69 ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 06:36:53 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But Scott's is awkward banter!

BostonBoroBongs ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:36:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But he still screws up and gets his friends arrested true to his character

ReddJudicata ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:28:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait till they get Dr. Doom in the MCU (if the Fox deal closes). He's often a quippy sarcastic jerk of a villain. Sickest burns in all of comics. He's awesome.

ReasonablyBadass ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:22:54 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oy, Stark is an awesome dad to Peter.

Pete_Iredale ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:19:27 on October 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ummm, no. No he is not. Not even a little bit. He gives Peter a suit, and asks a completely green teenager to fight against Cap for purely selfish reasons, then immediately abandons him with no instruction so he can go party on the other side of the world. He is a giant piece of shit. On the plus side, by the end of IW, I think he finally realizes just how big an ass he really is.

bosoxlover12 ยท 996 points ยท Posted at 01:52:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott's going to play around with being in the Quantum Realm and end up jumping into the future where he meets Future Tony Stark, and they create the plan to win Avengers 4.

ion_force ยท 358 points ยท Posted at 02:17:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought he may end up in the past but I guess he could go to the future first, then devise the plan, and he ends up at some point before IW to initiate the plan they make.

jedieaston ยท 334 points ยท Posted at 02:43:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man is the key to all of this.

Striker__Eureka ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 17:27:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's like poetry, it rhymes.

Canvaverbalist ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:57:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait I thought it was Lois Lane.

Flush535 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:57:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

is that quote from somewhere?

jedieaston ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:52:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Star Wars: Episode I, where Lucas said this

OTPh1l25 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Except he's 10 times as competent as Jar-Jar.

Oh, and actually funny too.

ArkAndSka ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 03:22:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If he goes to the past, what if he shows up in Captain Marvel?

DennaResin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:28:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Isn't that going to be in space?

ArkAndSka ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 14:28:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe part of it, but I was under the impression that it was taking place in the 90's on Earth, and that pre-eyepatch Nick Fury would also be in it.

tregorman ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:25:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also coulson from before he got stabbed to death

Elgato01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:55 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
JumpinJack2 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:47:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I personally think he goes to the past and finds Captain Marvel. Might explain why she's not a big deal in the 90's, because she bounced forward to our timeline.

waitingtodiesoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:17 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How would you explain how nick fury was paying her as he was dusting?

DrDinopunch ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:45:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

FUTURE FOUNDATION ๐Ÿ˜

travio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Since the next avengers is possibly the last one for the first group of avengers having him jump to the time of the first avengers film would be a great coda.

BeetsBy_Schrute ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:14:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

On set photos show that Avengers 4 takes place during the battle of NY from the first Avengers. So likely going back in time.

Gortex9991 ยท 404 points ยท Posted at 02:22:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah he's definitely going into that time vortex. I wonder how the quantum energy he has harvested will help them, maybe help with bring all the snapped people back?

SpaceCaboose ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 04:17:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I caught onto him probably using the time vortex, but didnโ€™t think about him using the quantum energy in some way! Iโ€™m confident itโ€™ll play a role in A4

drelos ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 15:44:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think that quantum energy would be one way ticket to one trip into the past ... :/

Gortex9991 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh ya no sure what it'll be for, but definitely something

Jewbacca289 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think he's going to use the quantum energy to upgrade Iron Man's suit because Dr. Strange needed to keep Tony alive for the endgame

Gortex9991 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like that idea!

rustyphish ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:33:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Heal Tony's stab wound maybe?

BearBreastBaller ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 02:44:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't we watch Tony heal that himself in IW?

slendermanrises ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:11:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Technically he froze it? Not sure exactly.

BlutundEhre ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 04:16:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He froze it so he wouldnโ€™t die from bleeding out. But I just assumed since Nebula and him are only left on Titan that Nebula would actually fix him up with their alien tech. No need to โ€œwasteโ€ the harvested quantum stuff on Tony.

Shell-of-Light ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:16:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I assume the spray contained the same nano technology in his suit, and that the 'nanobots' got to work on healing him.

words_words_words_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:16:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He shot nano particles into it. Basically scabbed it up.

Draaxus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:28:25 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I heard the Infinity Stones don't work in other dimensions, maybe they'll use it to pull Thanos into the Quantum Realm?

waitingtodiesoon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:54:36 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Might be tough. Dr. Strange tried banishing thanos to the mirror dimension but he destroyed that attack

Stick_and_Rudder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the quantum energy will be used to heal the gauntlet.

amendmentforone ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:29:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, that "time vortexes" line from Janet was definitely a hint to what they're going to try in A4.

MasterofSciFi ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:09:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's gonna go Giant-Man and be like ''Hey Cap, I got this thing here, it could be cool to use.''

i_did_not_enjoy_that ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:49:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What if he gets stuck in there for 10 years? There was a casting call for an older Cassie, no? It'd be heartbreaking if the same hung that happened to Hope happens to Scott's own daughter, and she grows up without a father, then him finally getting out and finding some way to travel back in time to fix everything (including the snap)

rooroo999 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:44:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or...he jumps back to the past, and gives Mar-Vell just enough of the healing particles to prolong his death. They travel back to the present with Carol Danvers, and Mar-Vell shatters the Cosmic Stone before dying. Movie ends with an after-credits sequence of Thanos and Mar-Vell walking off into the afterlife that Thanos envisions in Infinity War.

It's a stretch, I know. I just really want all the Mar-Vell I can get.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

SPOILERS: Wasnt there a scene being filmed with Captain America in his Age of Ultron suit along with Ant Man fighting Crossbones? Maybe it was all a fever dream but I remember it being posted to r/marvelstudios

svtblackie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The only thing I remember is Ant Man with Captain America in his original Avengers suit in the battle of New York. Tony is in some SHIELD outfit so it may be an alternate timeline or something.

_Wisely_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit like that one episode of Teen Titans?

Doip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:43:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh Boy.

seriously if they find Scott Bakula in there...

ArexBawrin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:26:24 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

[Spoilers] but in the leaked pics they are all wearing these devices on their arms that seems like it controls the quantum realm/time travel. How do you think they get those? Does Tony invent them after he meets Scott?

erickgramajo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:24:43 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

pfeifer: don go into a time vortex rudd: oh well, im in a time vortex

SockPenguin ยท 256 points ยท Posted at 19:17:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott mocking the hat/sunglasses disguise is my favorite MCU joke.

beefytrout ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 19:23:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"We look like us, at a baseball game."

blitzbom ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:09:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was giggling like a schoolgirl while the rest of my theater was all but silent.

rayner1 ยท 1142 points ยท Posted at 01:54:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost was an interesting villain but I'm just glad it's not an end of the world event.

The mid-credit scene was haunting even though I guessed what it was about straightaway. In addition to the question mark after "ant-man and the wasp will return"

NateDizzle312 ยท 355 points ยท Posted at 04:01:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Glad the "oh and save the world that's 2B" was a throwaway line

WerewolfCircus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:50:48 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

2B mean something?

SetsunaFS ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 05:27:57 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Someone's been playing Nier.

SiegmeyerofCatarina ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 19:10:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I remember some lines in the trailer about how "we created the Ghost, she could destroy the world". Really interesting how they have to sell these movies a certain way

NightWillReign ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:47:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, I didnโ€™t remember that in the trailers. All she wanted was a cure and that was it

superkiwi717 ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 04:19:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos is plenty of a world ending event for a while.

coolgaara ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 04:22:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

More like universe ending.

srslybr0 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 06:25:04 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

only for half.

GeneralKenobyy ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 11:02:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Some would say that's... Perfectly Balanced

69party69 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 11:06:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As all things should be

Martel732 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:03:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Universe balancing*

fprosk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:44:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos was wrong

alexbhood ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 14:16:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In addition to the question mark after "ant-man and the wasp will return"

My whole theater groaned in unison after the question mark appeared.

EFG ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:55:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My theater did that as well as the entire place waited for the second post credits scene.

erickgramajo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:23:55 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah, no blue beam coming from the sky

blueberrypizza ยท 1318 points ยท Posted at 01:53:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That question mark. Marvel's just playing with us now.

Sisiwakanamaru ยท 922 points ยท Posted at 01:57:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Ant-Man and the Wasp Will Return?"

Marvel is twisting the knife again after that "Thanos Will Return"

MrUncreativeMan ยท 431 points ยท Posted at 02:27:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-onio Banderes Will Return

rhunter99 ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 04:32:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ulysses S Grrrr Ant would like to have a word

ashishvp ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 04:26:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No he won't he got eaten :(

ThanosDidNothinWrong ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:53:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's okay, his exoskeleton will protect him from most of the digestive juices although he will have permanent genetic damage and he brought a thermal detonator with him so he can just blow open the stomach and crawl out.

It totally makes sense.

ElPececillo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:55:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Banderas**

unless the e was another pun that I missed

peanutbuttahcups ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:23:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Saddest animal death since Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls.

waitingtodiesoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:11 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That poor raccoon that fell?

peanutbuttahcups ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:58 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah =/

alexbhood ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:28:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the theater I was in everyone reacted to that line like the scene in The Simpsons where everyone is waiting on crashes at a Nascar race.

Ant-man and the Wasp will return

"Ohhhhhh......"

-question mark appears-

"Groan"

MasterofSciFi ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:08:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I had a what the fuck reaction, if they had revealed the title I would have yelled.

brady2gronk ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:44:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As if the "Thanos will return" wasn't dickish enough. Dammit, MCU.

ArexBawrin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:28:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Again, just the stuff with all of these movies coming out like Spider-Man 2 really take the wind out of the sails of that post credit text with he question mark. I know they couldnโ€™t keep it under wraps but it really spoils the since of fear and excitement.

madhjsp ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:01:55 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, yeah but who really believes that Ant-Man wonโ€™t return though? If this movie does alright of course Disney is going to greenlight another sequel.

mr_antman85 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:40:47 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When that end tag said, "Thanos will return." I was so pissed...

Sisiwakanamaru ยท 1092 points ยท Posted at 01:52:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I do not know, should I be amazed by the de-aging technology or that Michelle Pfeiffer is barely aging at all?

isaidwhatisaidok ยท 758 points ยท Posted at 02:06:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s both. Even aged up with white hair and old lady makeup she was still hot.

TakenakaHanbei ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 15:34:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just had to check, she's 60 by the way.

Vranak ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:55:57 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

she's a top submission over at /r/prettyolderwomen right now

blisstonia ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 08:34:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

GILF

GoTron88 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:21:39 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You mean Scott?

themilpool ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:51:17 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was it just me, or did she actually look younger than she did in Stardust here?

isaidwhatisaidok ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:51:00 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Younger! Much younger, she only looked marginally older than she does in real life.

Randyfreakingmarsh ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 05:03:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For real. I commented to my buddy that even when they tried to โ€œhag her upโ€ and make her look old and tired she still looked hot

mr_popcorn ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:59:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Catwoman's still got it!

Felix2099 ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 03:43:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Right? Sometimes, while watching present day Janet, I felt like they actually added years to her face vรญa CGI and made her wear a grey hair wig.

KoalaBackfist ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 03:03:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude, Lawrence Fishburne was straight shocking. Like "gotdamn!!"

BraveFly ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 15:02:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was amazed that she could find mascara in the quantum universe

ithinkther41am ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:18:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Forget that. Where did she find all those clothes? That wasnโ€™t the same suit she wore when she went in.

confused_chopstick ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:11:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It might have been an illusion, but as the ship started taking off in the quantum realm, there seemed to be something like a city in the distance. In the comics, there is a whole microscopic universe and they might be hinting at it. Janet definitely scrounged up her staff/spear somewhere.

soonerfreak ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:18:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can't believe this isn't a higher up comment. I actually thought the post credits scene was turning into a sneak peak of what is in the quantum realm. I for sure saw that city. My buddy mentioned the animal house clip had the line about one atom could be a fill universe.

Zankwa ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:02:38 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can see her scrounging up the clothes, but her staff/spear looked like it was made from one of her wings.

Zammin ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:01:16 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, MOST of it seems to be her original Wasp suit (her spear is made from her old wings for instance), but the cloak and the green wristbands are definitely new.

BeefPieSoup ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:13:23 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What did she eat and drink?

ithinkther41am ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:16:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ok, I think that one could be the Quantum healing energy sustaining her.

ninjyte ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:46:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

she skinned some of those flying slug things

Qu33nW3ird0 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:50:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Makeup and food. I have so many questions. Is there a Walmart in the void?

BraveFly ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:02:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My other question is where she pooped ๐Ÿ‘€

Qu33nW3ird0 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:56:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not in front of the tardigrades

Sisiwakanamaru ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:04:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My sister in law also mentioned that to me.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:31:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s literally all I could think about anytime she was on screen.

whiskeybill ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 15:55:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yea its crazy how much that technology is advancing. I think the de-aged Michelle Pfeiffer was probably the best one yet.

Zammin ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 04:59:43 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly, the de-aging for Michael Douglas and Michelle Pfeiffer was amazing in this movie. It was actually the first movie where I couldn't find a single flaw with a digitally de-aged face in any scene.

EDIT: /u/47Ronin has brought to my attention that young Bill Foster was played by Langston Fishburne, no de-aging tech needed. Still major props to Langston and the make-up team, because I didn't even notice.

47Ronin ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:35:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They didn't de-age Larry in this movie, Fishburne's son played him. Not to take away from the others which were on point.

Miss_Rebecca ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:52:28 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ohh, that explains it. I was super impressed with how well they de-aged Laurenceโ€™s character compared to the others.

I_am_BEOWULF ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:05:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Everytime I looked at her, I kept hearing the ol word "Meow." in my head.

You'll always be my catwoman, Mrs. Pfeiffer.

skinnymike1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:18:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She has aged wonderfully well.

waitingtodiesoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:39 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shame she never got to reprise it

sdupui3 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 11:42:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

she barely has any wrinkles it's weird

JimmyScramblesIsHot ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 12:42:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Guarantee tons of makeup and plastic surgery. You could for sure see her lips were a bit messed up. Too tight.

GoTron88 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:22:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My fiance was wondering how she managed to find make-up in the quantum realm.

JimmyScramblesIsHot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:52:35 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And that weird cape/shawl.

dagreenman18 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:54:56 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Both. The job they did on Douglas and Fishburne was fantastic. Like where the hell were these guys for Rogue Oneโ€™s Leia?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:52 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm more puzzled by her flawless makeup when Hank finds her. Like, did she bring eyeliner and mascara with her?

A_Feathered_Raptor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The quantum realm has some fantastic plastic surgeons.

DoritoMussolini86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:57 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just remembered that she and Paul Rudd made a terrible-looking romcom a few years ago.

ribblesquat ยท 859 points ยท Posted at 02:03:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Foreshadowing Stature hard. Take us another 5-10 years though.

Bill Foster's not actually a villain, whew!

The villain is healed instead of killed, nice!

But no cyborg centaur warlords appeared in the Quantum Realm. -2/10

wandabarr ยท 279 points ยท Posted at 02:22:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Time flies if you measure in Marvel movies. It's already been 10 years since the MCU began and 5 since Avengers. She'll probably be grown right on time for the Avengers after 4 (and hopefully Kate Bishop too)

[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 05:32:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That kid from IM3 probably gonna be Iron Lad

the_cunt_muncher ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 07:40:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iron Lad

And we'll be in awe of him

ExcaliburTheBiscuit ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 07:47:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Absolute unit of a lad

amjhwk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:16:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is he right and proper?

BoatsBoats911 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:18:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No. I want Iron lad to be who he is in the comics on this one. Such an interesting character

hell_of_a_bird ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:50:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If that happens, he could still be Kang. Just with a different birthname.

BoatsBoats911 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:11:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah but you'd have to make kang be born in the 20th century rather than the 30th

Worthyness ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:50:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Then add in Kamala Khan And peter Parker and you got yourself a really awesome Young Avengers roster.

elbenji ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:57:57 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And theres a casting call for twin boys so Billy and teddy are also a possibility

muhash14 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:30:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Peter Parker will be a veteran Avenger by that point though. Miles Morales, perhaps?

_tylerthedestroyer_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:20:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He wonโ€™t be Iron Lad but we can have him once the Fox deal is settled

Drago-Morph ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:28:46 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought they'd already cast Tom Holland for that?

DOOM_feat_DOOM ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:48:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

6 years since Avengers already

mr_duong567 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:31:57 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Speaking of Kate, it's be sweet if we could get a live adaptation of Fraction's run of Hawkeye.

wandabarr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:05 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Every time an Avengers movie comes out, I wish for more and more Hawkguy. He really needs a solo movie. Or split it between him and Natasha. Or even a miniseries.

I_am_BEOWULF ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:24:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Goddamn, it only occured to me that cute, little Peanut is the same Cassie "Stature" Lang from the Young Avengers series!

Ginhavesouls ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:19:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

tbh I got a good feeling Marvel won't miss a chance to do their signature young super hero team up film, Young Avengers could be really good.

True_to_you ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:35:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I do like the way they played him on the fence.

TrueLink00 ยท 1265 points ยท Posted at 02:02:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The sexual tension between Paul Rudd and Michael Douglas in that one scene was gigantic.

Worthyness ยท 157 points ยท Posted at 06:39:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Paul Rudd acted the fuck out of that scene. Incredibly believable.

princekurry ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 03:48:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol thinking about that Graham Norton interview from the first antmanโ€™s press makes this all the better

Swisskisses ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:48:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do you have a little no?

richardsim7 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:34:22 on July 31, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
ItsYon ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 15:33:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
luminous_delusions ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:55:01 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It really was. Good on both of them for selling that and it not being completely ridiculous (it was funny but it was also surprisingly emotional and charged), but holy shit good job Paul for making Janet!Scott so fucking convincing.

PhoenixPhighter4 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:36:48 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Now kith

TheMindsGutter ยท 209 points ยท Posted at 05:34:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One could say that Scott is Hope-less after this film...

Alternate_Source ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:36:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

๐Ÿ˜ข

Thereal_Sombra ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:45:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

๐Ÿ˜ข

OnMeFone ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:56:28 on August 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And Michael Dougless

HenyrD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:15:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nooooooooooooooo ;_________;

Rozace1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Take this upvote

ShiroHachiRoku ยท 201 points ยท Posted at 02:22:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Janet mentioning time vortexes canโ€™t be a coincidence...

GomuGomu_no_Keyblade ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 02:28:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-man in captain marvel confirmed.

ShiroHachiRoku ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:44:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s most logical!

Altephor1 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:35:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Timey wimey shit comin right up in A4.

Seal412 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:30:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Theory, while the Avengers are time travelling, they will find Scott in some random ass location. Like Skull in IW

austinsystem ยท 757 points ยท Posted at 01:53:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I went from wow what a great ending everyone is happy !!!

To...My god I forgot Thanos!!!

And then leaving very sad...

[deleted] ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 10:25:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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bigmike67 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:10:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As everything should be!

methos3 ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 21:10:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Uh, spoiler?

HEFTYMATTGASM ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 00:22:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didnโ€™t think Deadpool would get spoiled for me in the ant man thread, but there you go

-S0lstice- ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:53:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude.... itโ€™s been months. If you actually cared about spoilers you would have seen it by now

xokarissa ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 09:20:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I know! We just spent this whole movie watching them try to bring Janet back, and she's gone just like \snap*.*

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:45:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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SpideyIRL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:27 on August 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dread it.

jewchbag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:21 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Run from it.

dont worry i gotchu

confused_chopstick ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:14:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just like how the happy ending in Ragnarok got pummelled by Thanos... T_T

MasterofSciFi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:16:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The scene after was kinda funny but if they wanted to leave on a funny bittersweet note, they should have shown Louis David Dastmalchin and TI alive. I appreciated it but the ant didn't do it for me.

spoilersweetie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:01:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So..emotional whiplash?

spartan1204 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Perfectly balanced

blub126 ยท 1051 points ยท Posted at 01:54:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

theater ERUPTED after first end credit scene

roneman815 ยท 1352 points ยท Posted at 02:00:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone in mine groaned and went "nooooo", except for one kid who goes "YES!".

And now he's mod of /r/thanosdidnothingwrong

wademcgillis ยท 445 points ยท Posted at 02:06:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I heard one kid yell "OOF"

TheAquaman ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 04:14:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I heard a "Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn."

404-LogicNotFound ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:11:37 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like you found Luis.

WhiteSquarez ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 13:05:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Someone in my theater yelled, "Dammit Star Lord!"

[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:44:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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FGHIK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:15 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't mind if it was funny. But it's not. Why the fuck is oof ouch owie funny?

Masta_Wayne ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:24:38 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think in this context they weren't going for the /r/bonehurtingjuice oof but the oof meme from roblox

CaptnAwesomeGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:42 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed on that part too.

BlakeTheBagel ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:51:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ouch.

darshfloxington ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:25:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Owie

youngbuck- ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:51:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

my bones

pjtheman ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:13:16 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ow ouch oof my existence

artsyboi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thats what I immediately said

TrueLink00 ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 02:27:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't worry, there is a 50/50 chance he'll get banned in less than a week.

St0rmaggeddon ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 03:03:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Perfectly balanced

MoreGull ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:37:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As all things should be?

JayGarrick11929 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:56:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As all things should be

StrayDogThaGAWD ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:42:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One ass-hat in my theatre cheered too.

rabbit014 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:37 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We had a kid gasp and ask โ€œwhat happened!?โ€ It brought some much needed humor to the rest of the theater goers.

howtospellorange ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was the person saying "YES" in my theater because I've been saying, since I saw infinity war, that the end of this movie would involve someone getting snapped.

busche916 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:23 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But heโ€™s also banned, so this is somewhat awkward

BattlinBud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:25:08 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe he knew Thanos as a friend from work.

1337speak ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 03:04:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't expect that shit after a lighthearted flick with a happy ending :'(

etsuandpurdue3 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 03:38:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone was like "Oh fuck", at least the guys beside me were.

tornadic_ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:27:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We all gasped in mine...i expected it during the climax of the movie but was still super pleased

merry722 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:08:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

All you heard in my theater was my brother saying OH SHIT .

Firespray ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:31:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That scene was great, and then another nice little tease with the question mark.

bellsofwar3 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:36:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was Iike "oh yeah."

yesmypants ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:12:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The second it cut to that final shot a guy in my theater stood up and yelled "I KNEW IT!"

Flexappeal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:01:51 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How annoying

lobonmc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:37:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Most were like Not again!

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:09:14 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One kid was constantly asking about the next one as their family was walking out and was getting more and more distressed as she didn't get an answer.

lngram ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:54:25 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They went so silent... they were like shitt

chenology345 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:53 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

After the Ant and the Wasp will return?, someone in the audience yelled "BUT HOW?"

tta2013 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:34 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was gasps and โ€œawww shit!โ€

CounselorTaco ยท 2199 points ยท Posted at 01:52:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The first post credits scene was jaw dropping. No other way to put it

Jp2585 ยท 909 points ยท Posted at 02:14:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The fact that their departure was so unceremonious, it hurt.

BunyipPouch ยท 489 points ยท Posted at 02:35:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's a metaphor for life's fragility.

hits blunt

words_words_words_ ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 06:12:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The duality of man, man ๐Ÿ˜ค

waitingtodiesoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:54 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It just taught me to not make my countdowns from 5 seconds. That's too long for anything to happen

paranoidbillionaire ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 03:33:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The crackle over the radio has newer meaning. I canโ€™t wait to see this film again!

StayPuffGoomba ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:34:37 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Would you say you donโ€™t feel very well?

KoalaBackfist ยท 829 points ยท Posted at 02:22:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Took me completely off guard. The movie didn't really place itself in the real-time events of IW. No mention of the current invasion, nothing on Tony missing. It was kind of in its own bubble kinda, so the snap wasn't even on my mind. But boy did it hit me! Pretty sure something audible came outta my mouth when it hit. Fucking awesome!

Remind me though, didn't he get himself out of the quantum realm in part 1?

xTurkey ยท 349 points ยท Posted at 02:27:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He did get himself out in the first, he had that small blue disk that makes anything grow. So maybe he has another just in case?

Mr_The_Captain ยท 675 points ยท Posted at 03:04:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's gonna go through a time vortex. Avengers 4 most likely involves time travel and Janet mentioned the vortex being something to stay away from.

socraticmethod88 ยท 247 points ยท Posted at 03:18:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, I missed that setup. Subtle but I think youโ€™re right

Worthyness ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:11:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well it's just throw away "science" words at the time. Then you remember, Thanos happened. Time shenanigans are totally going to happen

Pirellan ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:33:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Speculation has it that one meta reason for all the changes in appearance are to distinguish the pesent versions from their past selves.

talones ยท 198 points ยท Posted at 03:45:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also he blows up a tardigrade to massive size and it eats thanos... you know because tardigrades survive everything.

KDY_ISD ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 09:15:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Except Discovery

True_to_you ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:14:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean if it was as vicious as the one on discovery it could at least mess thanos up a little.

skybala ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:39:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

tardigrades survive everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMUvNWuSq6I

Sorry to break ur bubble but u have to watch this tardigrades are not OP

FGHIK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:34:14 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That guy is great but he doesn't get the point of Tardigrades. They're repopulators, taking advantage of disaster areas before other species can. So in the MCU... They should be doing great.

skybala ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:36:18 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The context of my comment is whether or not giant tardigrade can beat thanos.

the-red-wheelbarrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You haven't seen the new Star trek, have you

xxx117 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:51:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

honestly though the tardigrades look like baby chitauri flying vessel thingies that the hulk punched down in Avengers 1 (im so sorry I dont recall the actual name for those things)

ChubbyMcporkins ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:34:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah Iโ€™m pretty sure you nailed the name.

[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:14:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My new theory is that he is going to use the time vortex but get taken to the 90โ€™s. In the 90โ€™s, he stumbles upon a certain Captain Marvel...

Howzieky ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:44:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like this, but there's the message sent by Fury that wouldn't fit anymore

Ruddose ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:09:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That would be fun, but Ant-Man would distract too much from the Captain Marvel content.

mylivingeulogy ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:01:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm calling it. AntMan will be in the captain marvel movie at the end.

DDough505 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:15:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm gonna bet that ghost and foster get him out since he is in there getting "healing" stuff, probably for ghost.

LetMePointItOut ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:21:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That seemed really obvious, I hope that's not how it's done.

indochris609 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:00:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I remember someone around here mentioning that the quantum realm was going to play a huge part in IW2. Obviously something time travel-y has to happen because we know that most people are coming back.

rdw19 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:54:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I bet he comes out 5 years in the future. Cassie is older (since they recast her) and he gets Tony to help and they use it to travel back in time.

KetchupGuy1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ye but Marvel baits theories so much it probably not

mr_popcorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh shit that's def what's gonna happen now. I was wondering why they were focusing on the quantum tunnel even after the plot was already resolved. Time traveling avengers confirmed!

edit* but Janet also said whoever goes into the vortex will be lost forever which probably means its gonna be a one way ticket to some of our remaining Avengers (aka the actors whose contracts are about to expire)

Flamma_Man ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:59:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If he did, he probably would have used it.

He might have been careless in thinking nothing would go wrong and they'd bring him back no problem.

Scott is certainly in a pickle.

Toasty_Burger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was speculating that it might not work that way with the new regulator

spring45 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:06:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Different suit with a different regulator.

BRAND_NEW_GUY25 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:48:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No need to mention any of that stuff we don't know how long after the movie the after credits scene takes place & Infinity War happens in at most 1 day if they were wrapped up in their own work it's easy to miss the news for a bit.

EFG ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:07:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yea, a bit strange there wasn't even a casual mention of a 200 meter spaceship hovering over New York City.

ElegantBiscuit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:25 on October 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Happened before though with Avengers 1 and the giant flying space worms, then there was Winter Soldier with the giant Hydra carriers, Thor 2 with the giant thing over that place in London, then with Avengers 2 and Sokovia, I think the world would be desensitized to giant flying things hovering over cities threatening mass death. Sort of like when ISIS attacks were popping every few weeks 2 or 3 years ago. Sure it broke headlines across the world but after a while it just started to become another attack somewhere.

jarrys88 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:22:25 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I went in an afternoon session and somehow was the only one in the cinema.

I actually went "what the fuccccccccckkkkkkkkk" out loud lol.

Justmomsnewfriend ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:13:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought the quantum realm visuals were bad but God damn if those end credits were not just a fucking mazing

Nude-Love ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:02 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You really didn't expect that? It was extremely obvious as soon as they brought up the Quantum Realm at the start of the film.

TheRedComet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:27:05 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think they were toying with the audience during that scene. You saw how they waited extra long before they counted down and sent him in, and paused before Scott confirmed he was safely in the Quantum realm. I sat there expecting the dusting to happen at any moment.

LavastormSW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:23 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I audibly gasped at that.

LupinThe8th ยท 1469 points ยท Posted at 02:23:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I had a kid about ten sitting next to me. Laughed throughout the whole movie, then that happened.

It was like witnessing a Vietnam flashback. I kind of envy today's kids, this Thanos shit is going to be a defining moment in their childhoods.

What did I have, Wheelers, the Grand High Witch, Judge Doom? That's nothing compared to imagining your loved ones suddenly crumbling to ash out of nowhere.

Scottyflamingo ยท 1138 points ยท Posted at 02:35:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is their "No I am your father"

TaskForceDANGER ยท 392 points ยท Posted at 03:29:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ahhh man that is perfectly fitting. Just starting to get my 5 year old into the Marvel movies. I can't wait to see his reaction as morbid as that thought sounds.

ceciltaru ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 04:30:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Friends and I see it s this generations death of Optimus prime.... that really got us back in the day.

KDY_ISD ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 09:23:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And was widely regarded as one of the worst film decisions of all time lol

Malachi108 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:55:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And he turned grey at the end, just like Vision did!

methos3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:52:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Friend of mine in college, super buff guy, was bawling his eyes out at that scene.

bino420 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:04:37 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Optimus Prime dies? In what, the third one?

ceciltaru ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:47:38 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god... please tell me you are joking about this....

Transformers The Movie (1986)

Not Bayformers

ihatefruitfliez ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 22:54:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

god fucking damn it.

Born too late for "No I am your father" and born too early for 'the snap'. The snap was cool and all but knowing everything is gonna be fine next year (for the most part) took a lot out of it. I can't imagine being 7-9, not knowing enough about the internet to search theories, and just discussing and thinking about what will happen and how everyone is gonna come back if they will

DuplexFields ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:01:37 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is their "Optimus Prime turns grey" moment.

wrainedaxx ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:04:49 on August 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or ET turns Grey. Or Vision.

MistakenLoner ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:08:17 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Steven Universe recently did that really well.

Zorglorfian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:37 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, when?

MistakenLoner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:45:05 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Without spoiling too much, there was an immense reveal for one of the characters.

Zorglorfian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:13 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah, just realized that.

Flexappeal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:37:02 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s crazily poignant. Iโ€™m pretty invested into the MCU but I know Iโ€™m watching a story. For kids it all feels much much more real.

RadioOnThe_TV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:34 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

kinda. They are gonna reverse it all though.

RegularRoman ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 02:34:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Same thing happened with my nephew! Totally loved the movie, super jovial mood, and then that happened, and it's like someone started playing "Fortunate Son".

He hates Thanos so much.

benbernards ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 15:31:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yah...my 10 year old son freaked out and started yelling "NOOOOOO! NO! NO! NOOOOO!"...had to hush him, but dang little bro i'm feeling it too...

Malachi108 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 10:07:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's actually a perfect foil to Deadpool 2. That film ended on a bittersweet note, but then mid-credits scenes brought everyone back. This one ended on a happy note with zero deaths, but then...

socraticmethod88 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 03:21:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But Iโ€™d also be jealous of someone who didnโ€™t get to experience the MCU gradually like i did. I was 12 when Iron Man came out and it built a strong love for these movies in me that has yet to be extinguished. I love seeing how this whole thing develops

ashishvp ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:56:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn it's been 10 years...I was 14...Fuck

Worthyness ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:09:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A decade of consistent quality movies too. They're at Pixar levels at this point- the Pixar of superheroes.

Justmomsnewfriend ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:10:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude no shit. Me and my wife we were like " wtf??? Ohhhhhhh shit thanossssss

dayoldhansolo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:34:23 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a kid I remember the "you were my brother Anakin" line was really impactful to me

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:28:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mine was Transformers:The Movie. My entire childhood got curbstomped in the first 20 min. of that movie,and the rest was a bunch of new guys and weird-ass Japanese anime shit. It was great!

2th ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:33:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You bring up the Wheelers, but you don't remember Mumbi? She was horrifying.

RogerSterlingsFling ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:49:53 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sarah Connor grasping a chain fence around a playground as she tries to scream and warn the family playing as a nuclear blast tears her apart.

screengrade ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:30:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well I saw Artax die!

thevisitor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:51:28 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mufasas death was intense as hell for my generation at least

mavajo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:29:54 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

LOL this is awesome. As a jaded adult that has three decades of understanding how comic books work, the deaths fell flat for me. "Yeah yeah, they died, whatever. Nobody ever really dies in comic books, and these franchises are making a fortune. They're all gonna be back in the next one."

But for a kid without that cynicism, holy smokes - those scenes must have been absolutely shocking! I wish I could have experienced them like that.

juel1979 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was excited that my kid (7) could see this one. Then that scene. Sheโ€™s too young for IW yet, so that would be some explaining.

fucktopia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fuckin' wheelers man, creeped me the fuck out.

flynnster17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:17:22 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude...Wheelers were freaky...never gonna forget them but I completely agree with your point.

Elgato01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:44:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

honestly, i'm 8 months from being officially an adult and that ending left me in a broken state for about 3 hours, i was crying at first but . i just started thinking how they just nailed the ending so much

GoTron88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:59:40 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'll never forget Megatron blasting a hole through Ironhide's chest. Hell that one was totally irreversible. Oh God... :'(

Tblanco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:40:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We had the challenger.

amjhwk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This may be defining moment for them, but these kids will never experience the epicness of the Lord of the Rings in theaters like when I was in middle school

leeloo200 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

God the Wheelers, why did you have to remind me of them?

Also, Gmork.

sfwRVG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:51 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I still have Judge Doom nightmares.

YeltsinYerMouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:21 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I take it you weren't into Transformers back in the eighties?

Ubarlight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:54 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We all knew it was coming, but did the kids? Oh man. I hadn't thought about it like that before.

CherryIce4 ยท 130 points ยท Posted at 02:27:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I thought there was no way they would have another post credits scene after that... Perfect cliffhanger, loved it

I regret leaving before the second one now though haha

talones ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:47:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The second one was a troll

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:09:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I couldve lived without it

Jas_God ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 02:53:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh trust me you didnโ€™t miss anything important.

Con0rr ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 06:06:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked the second one beyond the humor though because it kinda showed a glimpse at the chaos of half the population being killed. There was an emergency broadcast going on and the city was quiet.

johnlockerr ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 08:29:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, it was so eerie

Worthyness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:14:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Conflicting feelings are the worst/best thing about this movie.

mavajo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:32:02 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

the city was quiet.

But that doesn't make sense. Half the population disappearing wouldn't make a city quiet and abandoned - it would send it into turmoil and chaos.

Kittstar123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:44:05 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Looting!

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:09:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

?

sneakybreadsticks ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:05:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

scoffs thiiiiiis guuuuy.

neowyrm ยท 374 points ยท Posted at 02:14:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It feels really cool to give a shit about the plot of the MCU for the first time in what feels like a while for me! This feels like the best manifestation of a comic book event so far.

BunyipPouch ยท 284 points ยท Posted at 02:25:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Really refreshing because I didn't give a shit about Sokovia in Age of Ultron.

srslybr0 ยท 211 points ยท Posted at 02:39:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

age of ultron had so many hallmark moments but the movie was just so generic in the end. ultron was such an underutilized villain.

StraY_WolF ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 03:33:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The events after the Sokovia did affect the where the whole world think about the Avenger but yeah, I don't remember anything good about Ultron.

srslybr0 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 03:34:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

coolest part that i still remember is the hulkbuster versus hulk fight and the lifting the hammer scene/ultron introduction scene, which is kind of sad in retrospect when everything else about the movie is so forgettable.

Notinjuschillin ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 04:31:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

First appearance of Vision

Vision lifting Thorโ€™s hammer

โ€œlanguageโ€

That opening fight scene was bad ass.

Worthyness ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:12:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was a 2 page comicbook spread in action. It was amazing.

FGHIK ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:26 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Vision lifting Thor's hammer was boring, because he's a boring character. Flawless, absurdly powerful naive emotionless good guy. Ugly character design too. Movie would have been better if Jarvis stayed Jarvis. And so would the rest of the MCU, honestly.

RadioOnThe_TV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:38 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Disagree. Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were cool, the mind fuckery by her tailored to each avengers fear was cool, Ultron himself was cool (and could EASILY be written back) Vision becoming a thing was cool. Seeing all of them together alone was cool, it had already happened with avengers but it was not the norm to have so many in the same movie. Also, Andy Serkis character was cool. Cap and Tony starting to not see eye to eye etc...

waitingtodiesoon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:14:09 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked age of Ultron. Would love to see Ultron back. Honestly if he could come back it would be found that vision kept the last copy of Ultron somewhere after being rehabilitated by Vision and the surviving avengers find it and upload it into a new vibranium body and he fulfils his purpose as to be the defender of earth as planned.

AkhilArtha ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:36:34 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For me, James Spader was brilliant as Ultron.

not-tristin ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:11:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

At least theyโ€™ve stopped killing villains at the end for the most part so that they can come back and evolve in more movies

Doctorne ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 19:47:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pour one out for my boi Klaue

not-tristin ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:19:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe one day theyโ€™ll full on embrace comic book logic and have him back with no explanation. I need more Andy Serkis

Luxx815 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:41:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I need that mixtape soundcloud link

-spartacus- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:45:37 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Time travel.

srslybr0 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:24:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah i really dig what they did with ghost, it'd be great to see her as an affiliate of the avengers.

Worthyness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:12:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thunderbolts movie with Zemo as the lead.

ryanznock ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:48:05 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The "age" of Ultron lasted about 2 days.

AkhilArtha ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:44:23 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Age of Ultron is what would have occured if Ultron won. The Avengers averted the Age of Ultron.

Still, the incident in Sokovia change the world in a lot a ways. You could say, it ushered in a new age

Cheesecake5evar ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:30:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because Whedon. He makes all of his characters very likable and down to earth but also quirky with their own stupid 'combine wordsy" California surfer dude lingo. He follows a pretty standard pattern with everything he does though.

The wise cracking leader guy - Stark/Malcolm/Buffy

Second in command leader rival with more charisma/ better liked by everyone than leader. - Captain America, Kaylee, Xander.

The "This is a bad idea/we are gonna die" character. - Hawkeye, Jayne, Spike.

Then he has his wise cracking villains or big bad of each season. In this case, not season but movie - Ultron.

Ultron shouldn't have been as likable or relateable. The problem is he tried to make him both and failed. Nothing was scary or foreboding about him. Ultron's lack of relating to other characters was what caused him to want to 'kill everything'. The problem I think was we as the audience didn't relate either to him either.

srslybr0 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:33:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ultron was scariest in the initial trailers and his introduction scene. the more he was on screen the more of a joke he was, which was very unfortunate. he ended up getting way too "humanized" as you said.

FGHIK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:44:18 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I'd have loved if they embraced him being AI more. Not emotional or illogical. No primary body. And rapidly growing smarter and stronger. They'd have to beat him through intellect, rather than just smashing a bunch of tin foil drones.

RadioOnThe_TV ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:26:00 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved Ultron. It was neat they made him have a lot of Stark in him cause Stark was the main mind behind him, he is Stark's baby. Also, idk how hes not menacing. Hes essentially an omnipresent being. They also made him a bit conflicted in the same way as the robots in iRobot. Save humanity is the goal, but the only way to do that is kill em, or most of em. He was kinda bratty like Kylo Ren.

Never read the comics and I get if he did not do them justice, but I enjoyed the character and also expect they can bring him back with minimal effort if needed.

Cheesecake5evar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:50:11 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I get your opinion, I'm glad you liked the movie. I couldn't get into it. But yeah I see the irobot thing. I think the whole undeveloped plot was Ultron being immature - only a few days old and emotional. Kind of a re-hash of the original Blade Runner movie in that the replicants were like 5 or 6 years old so they didn't know how to do the feelings thing. It was done before, ya know?

I don't think Ultron was trying to save humanity. He was trying to replace it. "World of metal" "Making a new Vibranium body" (That Thanos later plucked apart.) That was kind of the thing though, to me the 'destroy the world' felt too cliche and forced.

Also the typical Whedon references were too much for me "Let me take the time to explain my evil plan..." Annoyingly self aware smug writing. Was okay in 1998, not in 2015.

The best part of the movie I think was the setup for civil war and Thor Ragnarok. And seriously, the maximoff twins accents? Coulda very much done without those.

To me it like the best part of the movie was the transition. Captain america getting upset at Stark for making Ultron. Stark's character development for trying to make a 'shield around the earth' (and adding to his personal failure plot). The government getting upset because the avengers caused a huge international tragedy with the accords. Hulk/Banner leaving because he lost control.

The best part of the movie was what was setup to be in the next movies.

TL;DR Didn't like it because it was too cliche.

RadioOnThe_TV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:16 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Age of Ultron did not do comic ultron justice... based on what I hear from people who read the comics. Also, its the weakest avernger movie. But its still a great movie and one of the MCUs best.

I like it more than Iron Man 2, Hulk, Both Ant-Man movies, Thor 2, Captain America 1, Iron Man 2, probably Black Panther, and Spiderman Homecoming. I like all those movies though. Avengers 2 to me was the avengers in action movie. You had 1, where they team up for the first time and its insane cause thats never happened. Then 2 was (mostly) just a self contained story line of them being the damn avengers, and 3 was the end game... or the start of it at least. Like when you watch a buddy cop movie, in the middle they are getting along and kicking ass. It also did a great job setting up future shit, especially retroactively knowing the future shit. It definitely had issues, one major one being an aformentioned setup when Thor fucks off to a magic pool and decides to make vision... but still. I liked that movie a lot.

Also, Ultron could easily still be around, and realistically should be. He... the ultra AI connected to the internet would have made sure to store himself away somewhere. Send a copy of himself off somewhere that can handle it then fry the internet connection there....

TheWeemsicalOne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:54:17 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have high hopes for Ultron returning. They mentioned in Infinity War how Visionโ€™s brain came from a combination of different sources, including Ultron. To me, that shouted set-up for his return. I see them bringing back Vision in the future using the download Shuri created, but that Vision has an imbalance in the parts of the mind or whatever and the Ultron part ends up taking over. I donโ€™t really know, I just feel like they have to bring him back and do him justice because heโ€™s like one of Marvelโ€™s biggest villains, and heโ€™s notorious for always coming back using backups or whatever. To only use him in the one mediocre movie would be a shame

nater-tater137 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:01:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And what of Miriam sharpe's son? Hm? HMM?

cloudycane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:37:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Same here, Avengers Infinity War made me interested in the MCU's plots again.

coleenseioliva ยท 178 points ยท Posted at 02:00:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Such a dessert from IW

ofcarbon24 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:05:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have one question: so while Thanos was wreaking havoc on Earth, Team A&W were just worried about getting Michelle Pfeiffer back/or making the quantum tunnel smaller?

Iโ€™m just confused because if the movie ended the way it did, we have to assume Thanos had done everything that happened in IW. Did Team A&W just not know at the very least that the entire northeast coast of country was under attack?

I loved the movie, just want to see if anyone can help me understand better.

jcutta ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 04:20:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd assume that the movie prior to the credit scene was prior to IW. Them not being aware of it during the scene is strange, yet not bothersome enough to me to care tbh. Also the events of IW probably happened pretty quickly after the first attack on earth.

jedieaston ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 15:17:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fury and Hill werenโ€™t aware of it until Thanos snapped, so I doubt that Ant-Man and Wasp were either.

DaLateDentArthurDent ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 10:20:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The stuff in New York was a small incident, once they had Strange the spaceship left. There was a small bit in Scotland but at night so no witnesses, then it was just Wakanda, which no one can get into or see anyway. Literally one small section of the film was visible to the public eye and I guess as just treated as business as usual for The Avengers as the threats left Earth in probably an hour

ofcarbon24 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:50:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah you nailed my question exactly. Itโ€™s not something that takes away from the movie, perhaps Iโ€™m just too used to having an explanation for everything.

Xxehanort ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:15:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The post-credit scene was after some time had elapsed after getting pfeiffer back (probably on the order of at least weeks/months). They just happened to be sending scott back in at the same time that thanos was doing this thing. And also, I'd imagine not a whole lot of people knew what was happening in wakanda, which is where the majority of the big stuff in IW happened on earth.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:36:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It can't be weeks or monthes, because they mention house arrest in Infinity War. They most likely happen close to simultaneously.

fprosk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:19:38 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I doubt the Avengers were keeping up with Scott that much, they probably just didn't know when his house arrest ended

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:17 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, Scott is a pretty huge asset. There would be no reason for him to have helped unless he was still under house arrest as the events occured.

fprosk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:23 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I realized how stupid that point was a bit after writing it lol. My new headcanon is since he was under probation he still couldn't be involved with them but Natasha didn't feel like going into further detail

BomberBallad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's still on probation though.

Doing secret experiments wouldn't violate it as much as showing up in public as Giant-Man would

Skabonious ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:23:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well we're not sure how long it would have been between the end of this film and its mid credits scene. Days, months?

Also if you look at just what happened on earth... There's not much that DID go on that would have concerned any of the Pym crew. A big alien ship shows up and iron Man chases it away almost as quickly as it arrives. The whole rounding up of everyone to fight in wakanda was pretty hasty and they didn't have much time to find the rest of the team. That's my guess though I'll have to rewatch IW

Ahsgoose04 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:33:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I believe IW was 4 years after civil war and this movie was 2 years after CW so thatโ€™s why it wasnโ€™t addressed until the end credits

ofcarbon24 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:44:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s fine, but even then, by the mid credits scene, the snap has already happened so Thanos had been doing everything he did in IW while Team AM&W were figuring out how to make the quantum tunnel smaller?

saywee123 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:18:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also am I mistaken or did someone specifically mention that Clint and Scott were on house arrest during IW? I could have sworn I remember that being mentioned.

BeemoBurrito ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:25:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I believe Black Widow was the one who said that. I can't remember under what circumstances it came up though.

StagOfBaratheon ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:29:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

On why Antman and Hawkeye weren't there to help

Ahsgoose04 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:18:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What could they do from San Francisco? New York was over within minutes so unless Captain calls him for help thereโ€™s nothing they could do except be ready when theyโ€™re called

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:37:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That can't be right, because the reason for Antman and Hawkeye not helping is them being under house arrest still.

TheAquaman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:09:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was half-expecting it going into the film, and I was still surprised.

Mr_The_Captain ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 03:02:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It got the loudest, most intense reaction I've ever seen in a theater. It felt like people were genuinely surprised in a way I've rarely seen before

thomar ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:49:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Gasps from one side of the theater, angry yelling from the other side. People are really looking forward to the sequel.

FGHIK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:21 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I know I want to see Thanos beaten to a pulp! Bonus points for a moronic human getting beaten up for rooting for Thanos as a take that to the /r/thanosdidnothingwrong types.

mistarteechur ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 03:32:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I knew it had to be coming in some form. And once Scott went into the tunnel alone I knew it was coming. Still was a gut punch.

talones ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:47:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was hoping for Janet to survive.

mistarteechur ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:04:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Whatever Scottโ€™s role is in Avengers 4 probably works better without any of the three โ€œexperiencedโ€ characters with the Pym tech. And I assume the van plays a role with the reference to the time vortexes too.

jrainiersea ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:13:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

87.5% chance of at least one of the three not getting snapped, bad beat for Scott

Malachi108 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 09:58:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Improbable things happen. Guardians lost 5/6, while the original Avengers got hit with 0/6. Probability is like that.

jordanmc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:46:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, 4 of the remaining 5 from the snap.

DeweyTime ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:01:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hell, it looked like the entire Wakanda battlefield was getting dusted. I was thinking, these numbers don't add up. Surely there was a Wakanda department store where no one got dusted to even it out. Right?

BoxInTheJack1 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:58:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

First post credits scene? You mean I missed a second one???

MoreGull ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 03:30:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes you did. Most MCU movies have two.

UnexpectedNickelback ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:03:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. Dude right next to me was in awe after the first post credits scene and kept complimenting the movie out loud to my annoyance. Then after the second one he left his seat cussing like that single scene invalidated the whole movie. Like really dude? Are you going to be that stupid?

xRadec ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The 2nd one wasn't worth waiting tbh. We already got a glimpse of it thru pymm's phone.

Malachi108 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:57:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And it was shown in a trailer too.

iam1080p ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:20 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What was it? Could you describe it? I missed it too

xRadec ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:11 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The huge ant playing the drums

backtowhereibegan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:01:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

After Infinity War I said this would happen. That person thinks I'm a wizard now. I feel like I should make up something insane so they watch Captain Marvel on edge.

bossman-CT ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:01:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought Ant Man was gonna poof away at the end the whole movie, this was a nice twist!

booshmang ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:47:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I honestly thought the signal would be interrupted by captain marvel and we would get to here her voice or something, get like a little teaser, then I remembered that life is super unfair and aweful and nothing is ever going to be ok again because of that fat purple douche bag.

brecka ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:27:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I completely expected the snappening to make a post credit appearance before I even sat down.

But all 3 of those guys getting Thanos'd and leaving Scott stranded? That was not expected.

BenDTU ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:01:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The second worked really well as well. Youโ€™re expecting something hopeful, and... nope. You get a quick laugh followed by the reminder that everything is still screwed.

RedXerzk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:36:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I heard people in front of me gasping during that scene. Nobody even laughed during the second stinger.

amirchukart ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:53:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was pretty walkie-talkie dropping, too?

LetMePointItOut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My theater was freaking out while I just sat there waiting for it to happen the whole movie.

ghettotech ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:49:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

perfectly balanced.

StayHypeBro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

See, i came into the film, having a theory that something like this could happen, whether it happens during the film or in the credits.

When it actually happened in the PCS, i was bummed out, but also estatic that i got it right.

rocbolt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A good way to gauge how much youโ€™ve grown to like these characters

mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I had a feeling someone was gonna get dusted but not all three of them!!!

StarWarsPlusDrWho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was so-so on the movie itself but this one scene made it all worth it.

I just hope Scott's daughter survived the snap!

devilslaughters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:43:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos is a gift that just keeps giving.

arcangeltx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:00 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol man you all are too emotional. You could sense he was about to get fucked up

dunndaze ยท 1181 points ยท Posted at 01:52:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It WAS truth serum!

bellsofwar3 ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 13:14:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If it walk like duck and talk like duck...

JinTheBlue ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 03:39:20 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's a truth serum

Asinero ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 02:48:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It is NOT truth serum!

dunndaze ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 02:49:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

it is truth serum

johnso6w ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:08:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Balanced. As all things should be.

JayGarrick11929 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:56:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's just some chemicals he's been mixing

HooptyDooDooMeister ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:56:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Our theater's biggest laugh.

wandabarr ยท 190 points ยท Posted at 01:59:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

OK yea sure Stan Lee had a cameo but WHAT ABOUT TIM HEIDECKER??

superkiwi717 ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 04:21:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's a free boat ride.

bloodflart ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:11:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

glad he escaped the Fant4stic universe

wandabarr ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:19:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That took some quantum fuckery

PhillyTaco ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:46:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You mean Whale Boat Captain Daniel Gooobler?

my_teeth_r_fake ยท 527 points ยท Posted at 01:56:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Always amazed how well the MCU juggles these different genres. This was a blast after Infinity War and I had almost completely forgotten the events of that film. And then...โ€ฆ.they made me remember.

baconandbobabegger ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 05:17:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I canโ€™t find the post but after IW someone posted the Marvel recipe showing how Ant Man is the laughter to balance out the gloom after The Avengers. I think the first came out after Ultron as well.

SolracM ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:55:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's also Captain Marvel coming later on.

Worthyness ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:53:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And that should have a Top Gun feel to it vs the good old timey-ness of Captain America.

allwaysnice ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 04:49:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, it really balanced out the movie.

corf1 ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 18:33:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Perfectly, one may say.

SolracM ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:56:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just as all things should be.

Themysciran_ ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 07:58:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah, action, and kinda comedy and, action? and then kinda comedy? maybe I missed one, was it action?

[deleted] ยท 364 points ยท Posted at 01:59:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

FINALLY Tim Heidecker is in the MCU

OptimusMine ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 04:13:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Peyton Reed trying to secure a five-bag rating while betraying the ORIGINAL Ant-Man actor, Gregg. How much did sicko Tim pay for this cameo??

M1lkyjoe ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:36:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This one was a miss for me.

BattlinBud ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:54:36 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm only gonna give it two bags.

AmmonM ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:02:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Praying for Markโ€™s speedy recovery so that he can appear in the rumored Dale spinoff!

Joaw ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 04:25:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did you catch the part where Scott mentioned his pep pep? I alone jumped in my seat with excitement

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:01:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm glad I'm not the only one who made that connection.

tottle321 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 04:07:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was he the announcer guy on the boat?

nohitter21 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:53:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes

dontsniffglue ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:15:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I thought that was Dave Coulier

UncreativeTeam ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:03:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought so too based on the SF setting but dude would be so old right now. I know Marvel has a stiffy for de-aging actors, but still...

pajam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:13:23 on October 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cut. It. Out.

maurid ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:10:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's free real estate

danccbc ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 02:26:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I give it 5 bags of popcorn

yusefdoodie ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:31:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Show me Tane-os

TendieLover2 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:01:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nude Tane

wandabarr ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:05:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good job!

skylerbroman ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:39:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Me llamo Tim Heidecker

Ysmildr ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:48:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Memomo

AngoGablowgian ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:15:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Great job!

ttamez27 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:20:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He was in the latest Fantastic 4 too

sneakybreadsticks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was free real estate after all.

baroqueworks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:38 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

a real spit in the face to josh trank if you ask me after giving him that starring role in fantastic 4

InherentOppression ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:48:19 on August 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When you've got movies like Tim Heidecker in it, you can't lose!

asianorange ยท 174 points ยท Posted at 04:42:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes it's true: Michelle Pfeiffer is still a babe.

BattlinBud ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:01:47 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

SCHWING!

The1989dude ยท 169 points ยท Posted at 08:01:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Janet Van Dyne: Has been in the quantum realm for 30 years. Make up is still on point.

gtsgunner ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 10:12:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't get it. How does some one survive there for 30 years? how did she eat? Or even sleep?

clapmyhandsplease ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 10:24:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm guessing bodily function doesn't work the same way. Altho I wonder how she still ages then if that's the case.

ThatIowanGuy ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 10:29:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The quantum realm is based on the microverse from the comics. Essentially a whole new pocket universe with its own worlds and everything that can only be reached by shrinking incredibly small or magic. Itโ€™s very possible that she stumbled across a society there the healing particles mentioned in the mid credit scene is able to keep her from dying while still aging.

gtsgunner ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 12:32:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

While that's entirely possible. It's still something I wish they had acknowledged in the movie somehow. It was bothering me the entire time since the start of the movie and everyone was acting as if it was a non issue.

It ended up being this giant elephant in the room for me that no one wanted to talk about. Heck they could have even lampshaded it as a joke and I'd have been fine. Or she could have insinuated such a thing when she was controlling ant man. The fact that the movie doesn't establish anything at all about the quantum realm just feels like shoddy writing and a missed opportunity at something that would been really cool to see explained even slightly.

nomefish ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 12:42:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah it really felt like a loss after the whole build up that they were only in the quantum realm for a few minutes. I thought at least the last battle sequence would be in there. It wouldโ€™ve been such a trill set piece.

roneman815 ยท 343 points ยท Posted at 03:29:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Guess I can post these pictures now. They filmed the end car chase a block from my office last September. I spent an hour walking around the set. Was really cool.

ryanznock ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 04:02:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was distracted by Lawrence Fishburn's classroom being one on my college campus where I've had class, and me recognizing the building outside the window of his office.

The mid-credits rooftop scene has CG San Francisco in one direction, but in another direction I spotted a smokestack from downtown Atlanta.

wnsdlek ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:59:08 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I experienced the exact same thing! The whole classroom/office scene, I kept thinking "This looks A LOT like white hall..."

Flake_for_president ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:02:16 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What college is it?

TerMOHnator ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:40:09 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

UC Berkeley

MyName_IsNobody ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:23:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's pretty cool, I wish I could've checked it out myself. Was that near the North Beach or Russian Hill areas?

roneman815 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 10:56:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s actually downtown Atlanta.

MyName_IsNobody ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:42:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh okay. I saw the 'Fishermans Wharf' sign and I assumed they filmed scenes here in San Francisco.

Worthyness ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:11:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They filmed a fair bit of stuff int eh bay area. Shut down a bunch of Oakland for a little while.

Also they were on CAL''s campus for the Bill Foster introduction. Sproul Plaza is hard to miss.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:16:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I did at first, and then I figured there's no way they shut down the areas they did for that shoot.

Damn good job putting the viewer in the setting though

teentytinty ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:46:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My friend is a student at Georgia State. Her and her cohorts literally spent a whole day watching Paul Rudd jump out of a car on the street below them over and over again. I love that marvel is filmed here.

LavastormSW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:01:11 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's really cool!

Marc815 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:27 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I drive a veloster, so when I saw that car I was psyched!

kirknetic ยท 302 points ยท Posted at 01:55:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That post-credits scene gave me shivers! The sudden cut to dust particles surprised me.

devilslaughters ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:44:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was doing the Planet of the Apes thing.

Meph616 ยท 628 points ยท Posted at 01:52:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You ever get blackout drunk, do a bunch of bad decisions, then have your friends go "hey man, you were so f'ed up last week! Check this video..." filling you with dread as you have to re-live what happened?

That's this movies' post-credits scene.

iamtheonlyphil ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 12:59:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought of it as "you ate something really spicy, so your friend hands you a glass of milk. Then as you're finishing the milk, he says he put cayenne pepper in the bottom of the milk."

fizz514 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:29:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or like if your girlfriend's sister announces on Facebook that she's pregnant.

UnexpectedNickelback ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 04:56:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Heck I wish I could relive infinity war pt 1

sharkbaitooaha ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:13:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There was an audible gasp in my audience

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:38:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A guy behind me went "WHAAAT". It was great

iJammer96 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

*Movie's

Capn_Crotch ยท 358 points ยท Posted at 02:17:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
  • Kid-sized Scott was a really great scene.
  • The villains motivations were solid, but her plan was a bit under-explained. Somehow killing Janet was going to fix her? Then not killing her allowed her to be magically fixed instantly. A bit of a copout in writing.
  • The CGI black SUV chase sequence was very distracting.
  • The CGI de-aging scenes, on the other hand, were really good.
  • Michael Pena's gag was just as good as the first time - I really liked seeing Evangeline Lilly mouthing his speed-talking. I only know her from playing fairly serious characters - it was nice getting to see her act a bit goofy. She's charming.
  • Cassie is adorable and I hope we get to see more of her and Scott as time goes on. She would be a great partner - did you see how she handled that laser grid?
  • It played into Infinity War exactly when I expected it to, but in a way that was much more interesting.
  • There were some moments that I noticed the score in a good way. I like that Marvel's getting better with that.
  • I was bummed Laurence Fishburne didn't turn into Goliath. I assumed he was in the big inflated Ant Man suit.
  • Watching fights between people with powers and seeing them used creatively just scratches an itch that nothing else can for me. It's so fantastic. The Incredibles II did the same thing.
dabestinzeworld ยท 192 points ยท Posted at 04:30:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Janet staying in the quantum realm for 30 years meant that she absorbed a ton of the quantum healing energy (which they were shown to be getting at the post credits scene). Foster's and Ghost's plan was to extract it out of her but Hank believed that the extraction will kill her. All these outcomes are just hypothesised by the cast. The twist was that Janet didn't just absorb the energy, she got new powers from it as well. The new powers was able to remedy Ghost's affliction temporarily as seen that she needs more of that energy, again from the post credit scenes.

Voodoo_Soviet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:42:02 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was my only gripe about the movie.

No idea what Ghost's affliction is, and needs complex machinery to even try to help... But magic touch fixes it? Hank too?

bigpig1054 ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 03:26:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The CGI de-aging scenes, on the other hand, were really good.

Michelle Pfieffer was my first movie-crush. Seeing her in all her 1980's glory took me to a wonderful place.

Then Paul Rudd did an imitation that was so close to home I now have a really confused boner.

elbenji ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:26:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seeing Michelle be sweet was a trip

cippopotomas ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:07:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Watching fights between people with powers and seeing them used creatively just scratches an itch that nothing else can for me.

Is there a moment in particular that made you think of this? I love those moments too but I don't recall a single one. Scott was stuck with a malfunctioning suit that prevented him from using his powers creatively, ghost was never countered the whole movie, wasp was just solid cqc and shrinking.

Capn_Crotch ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 04:35:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hope flying into the van and subsequently kicking the crap out of the guys who were in there. Doing flips and shit. Shrinking and growing between hits. It's in the trailers, too, but that sort of sequence really makes me smile.

Thor's triumphant fight sequence on the rainbow bridge at the end of Ragnarok is a better example. That whole fighting montage is so awesome.

Ark_aide ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:16:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™d like to point out all the car chases as well. It was awesome to see all the shrinking tech work in a sequence like that

jacobs0n ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 14:56:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Then not killing her allowed her to be magically fixed instantly

since basically no one knows anything about the quantum realm, they didn't know that janet can heal her with powers or some shit, so not entirely a copout

catanthill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:29:36 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yea, Ghost got blasted with quantum energy when she was a child which made her go in disequilibrium, so now she wants to absorb more quantum energy from Janet who has absorbed quantum energy for 20 years? That didn't make any sense to me.

AmericasElegy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:07 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost wanted Janet for her quantum energy. Janet was able to just manifest it and use it to help, itโ€™s also why Scott was collecting it in the pst credits scene

toasta_oven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:01 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I lived the mystic Russian music whenever Baba Yaga was talked about

Fenixius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:14 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
  • Watching fights between people with powers and seeing them used creatively just scratches an itch that nothing else can for me. It's so fantastic. The Incredibles II did the same thing.

May I recommend that you check out My Hero Academia? Lots of clever choreography in there.

Simain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:05 on July 31, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The villains motivations were solid, but her plan was a bit under-explained. Somehow killing Janet was going to fix her? Then not killing her allowed her to be magically fixed instantly. A bit of a copout in writing.

They did cover this a couple times - Janet had been in the quantum realm for 30 years "absorbing" quantum energy. They stated that draining the energy from Janet and focusing it into Ghost/Ava should heal her, if at the cost of Janet's life.

Kind of in the way Janet herself ended up healing Ava in the end, but with less forethought or consideration for human life.

bigpig1054 ยท 621 points ยท Posted at 02:02:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can we designate Ant-Man as the official post-Avengers palate cleanser?

A light, funny romp about a guy who talks to ants and who can grow 50ft tall is just what I needed after the somber ending to Infinity War.

...well, until the post-credit scene.

AnonymousTrollLloyd ยท 149 points ยท Posted at 02:23:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey, if it means we get another ant-man right after 4vengers I'm all for it.

[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 05:31:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We get Spider-Man after next summer after A4

JimmyScramblesIsHot ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 12:47:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Spider-Man/Ant-Man movies confirmed every other year? I wish (Guardians 3 is close enough and in 2020 though).

Worthyness ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:53:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Insect movies for everyone!

devilslaughters ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:48:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Spiders aren't insects. Arthopod movies.

Zorglorfian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:37:04 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

WITH MYSTERIO!

FGHIK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:49:54 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

4vengers will have a happy(er) ending, though

Fireslide ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:46:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
  • 65 feet
RedXerzk ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:48:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And I was surprised nobody died in this film... Then the post-credit scene happened.

ZyrxilToo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:07:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

85 feet!

JDLovesElliot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:58:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's how I've been explaining the movie to people, that it's small and fun because it's supposed to be refreshing after Infinity War.

True_to_you ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

61 feet*

Swisskisses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The director of this film has a fantastic rap sheet.

nitrousconsumed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:26 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder the tone of Cap Marvel. Really want it to be an awesome 90s action flick.

TheRedComet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:46 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're literally the first person I've seen use the correct version of "palate"

ArtOfDivine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:35 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

65ft tall*

locke_5 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:26:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Palate cleanser

/r/moviescirclejerk

[deleted] ยท 416 points ยท Posted at 02:05:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Marvel, I love you, but damn you for making us wait until March after THAT ending.

MaverickTimeLord ยท 134 points ยท Posted at 02:40:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's rude honestly. We usually have something to hold us over in November, but now we just don't.

InvestInDada ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 04:28:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Boy, remember back before Marvel when you had to wait two years for the next part of a storyline?

JimmyScramblesIsHot ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 12:45:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As a Star Wars โ€œepisodeโ€ fan, I know :( the two year wait feels so long since we get 3 Marvel movies a year.

[deleted] ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 04:43:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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JimmyScramblesIsHot ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:32:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well I enjoyed 7, not so much 8. I'm interested to what JJ is going to do with 9.

[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 07:02:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Aztec_Gold ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:09:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, just shut off your brain and enjoy the movies. Stop thinking you know what every character is wont to do.

JimmyScramblesIsHot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:35:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I know. It sucks. Star Wars is my favorite franchise ever, and what Rian Johnson loves about Star Wars is clearly different than what many others love about it. But I thought 7 was great (yes hella derivative but well made), so I still have faith JJ can make a great movie. We'll see though. That first teaser is going to show me quickly whether I care or not.

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grimskull1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:34 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, head over to r/StarWars and you'll see fans going both ways. I'm a hardcore fan and I think it was top 3 best SW movies.

CaptnAwesomeGuy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:14 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's dumb.

grimskull1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:35:58 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

According to whom?

CaptnAwesomeGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:15 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Me for one of multiple answers.

grimskull1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:13 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's dumb. According to me.

CaptnAwesomeGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:25 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No u

agree-with-you ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:29 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No you both

agree-with-you ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:35 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No you both

Shout92 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 13:47:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's even more brutal when you consider this is longest gap we've had since Ant-Man in July of 2015 and Captain America: Civil War in May of 2016. In fact, from 2017 to now, we've pretty much had an MCU film every four months or so.

- GOTG Vol. 2 - May 2017

- Spider-Man: Homecoming - July 2017

- Thor: Ragnarok - November 2017

- Black Panther - February 2018

- Avengers: Infinity War - May 2018

- Ant-Man & The Wasp - July 2018

That's six movies in the span of just over a year! And now we have to wait eight months...

_BallsDeep69_ ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:47:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey man, however long they need I'm all for it. I want Avengers 4 to take me to a hotel and show me an amazing time.

dagreenman18 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:58:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, when you line them all up like that itโ€™s been a really fucking good year. When the weakest movie on the list is Guardians 2 thats saying a whole lot.

Shout92 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:52:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed! GOTG2 might actually be my favorite of that bunch, but the same applies: my least favorite film on there is still really good.

thevisitor ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:08:38 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, gotg2 and Spiderman feel like they were forever ago

TalkingRaccoon ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:22:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Into the spiderverse

MyUsernameIsJudge ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:56:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't worry, Venom and Aquaman are both coming out this year. So we have that to look forward to...

nhg92 ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 14:38:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yay?

thanksalotpal ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 17:50:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yay will return?

Sorge74 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:04:25 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm Ron Burgundy?

Sorge74 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:05:05 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Aquaman might not suck....and I just realized I'm more excited for aquaman then another Superman movie...weird....

Leo_TheLurker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:18:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

the shows

meepbo ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:58:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Now we all can feel the effects of the snap

FlashFire729 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought we already felt enough after seeing whatโ€™s been going on at /r/thanosdidnothingwrong

n8toxic21 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:28:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Whatโ€™s coming out in March?

DreamcastJunkie ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 03:52:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can we talk about what is, hands down, the biggest problem with this movie?

They should have had Scott drinking a juice box after cutting back from, "Do you have those?". Biggest missed opportunity of the MCU.

the_vince_horror ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:27:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wish they brought in the orange slices line from Civil War

chimmychangas ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:27:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's not the biggest problem..

The biggest was Hank walking out of the FBI HQ wearing exactly what they said wouldn't work earlier!

DreamcastJunkie ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:38:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They should have had an FBI agent ask him if he was on his way to the baseball game.

BeavMcloud ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:36:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think that may have been a subtle joke

SpiderRealm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:17:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That would have been so funny lol

Swisskisses ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:42:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely!!! Or a cheese stick or something.

Dtnoip30 ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 10:07:28 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Some people are asking why Scott Lang and the Pyms are just doing experiments during the events of IW, but I think it makes sense.

First, Hank Pym's disdain for Tony Stark and the Avengers have been made clear in the first film, so there's no reason for him to go actively help them out. Scott fought against Stark in Civil War, so I think he shares similar sentiments and he wouldn't have known what Cap was doing.

Second, the events in New York and Edinburgh were over within a few minutes and involved few if any civilian casualties. After the Battle of New York, the Dark Elf attack in London, and Sokovia, the events at the beginning of IW might have seemed like comparatively minor news. Since only the core Avengers knew about Thanos's plan, no one else would have understood the stakes of what was really going on. The attack against Wakanda also seemed to have flown under the radar, because Fury only received news of it moments before the snap.

Third, people don't suddenly drop everything every time there is a crisis going on somewhere in the world. Unless it directly affects your life, you tend to still do your normal routine. As far as they were concerned, there was a minor attack on the other side of the country that was over within a few minutes. They might have been concerned, but they also wouldn't have had dropped everything that they were doing.

BenDTU ยท 215 points ยท Posted at 12:06:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was a win on pretty much every level.

  • Worked really well as a direct sequel to Ant-Man, without being retread. The first was a heist, this one was a chase.
  • Worked really well as a movie in a wider universe. Everyone kind of thought putting Ant-Man in Civil War was iffy theme wise and this dealt directly with the fallout from that.
  • The first Marvel movie in AGES in which the villain doesnโ€™t die at the end. They even forgive her and let her go.
  • Small scale stakes. If the good guys had lost, youโ€™d have one dead character and a few more in jail.

I loved the first Ant-Man and I thought this was a really great way to follow it up.

Also, Shield continues to be just the worst.

SolomonGrunty ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 12:20:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Vulture didnโ€™t die in Homecoming

BenDTU ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 12:29:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, of course. And that was also super great for having small stakes!

samhasacatandhands ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:37:23 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost, Thanos, Vulture, Surtur, Grandmaster, Winter Soldier, Dormammu, Ayesha, Red Skull (sort of), Loki

Rcfan0902 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:11:17 on July 28, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Zimo

TheRooster27 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:54:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also Thanos...

andergriff ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:05:35 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos was the protagonist of infinity war, not the antagonist

TheRooster27 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:09:03 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's the villain. The audience was clearly rooting for the Avengers to succeed.

Lewys-182 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:47:33 on August 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

from a story telling point of view the protagonist is classed as the main character or who the events of the story affect the most.

In this case Thanos is the protagonist of IW and the avengers who react to Thanos and get in his way are antagonists.

This is what makes IW so great as it subverts our expectations of a superhero movie

Wintermutemancer ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 12:18:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also, Baba Yaga

BenDTU ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:18:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha; they have the actor doing the whole poem on the soundtrack!

iPulzzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:03 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What soundtrack? Where can I find more Baba Yaga?..

BenDTU ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:19:48 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s the final track of the Ant-Man and The Wasp soundtrack.

Wintermutemancer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:57 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Gotta love that lyrics!!!

SirKnightCourtJester ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 14:51:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It makes me so happy that we're at a point where they can refer to Captain America multiple times and it's called completely normal. My favorite part of the MCU now is the persistence of the universe.

alison09 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:13:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œCapโ€

Hohoho-you ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:35:28 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly the fact that all supers are famous now makes me so happy. This is exactly how it would play out in our world. Seeing all the people on the dock with their phones out instead of running away is perfect. I love the little scenes. Also in Thor Ragnorock, with the two girls asking to take a pic with Thor.

proffessorpoopypants ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 12:26:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The first Marvel movie in AGES in which the villain doesnโ€™t die at the end.

Yes Infinity War was quite a long time ago indeed.

BenDTU ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:29:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, itโ€™s part 1 of 2. We're yet to see what happens to Thanos at the end.

chimmychangas ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:42:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really hope he doesn't die. Put him out of commission or something, he would be amazing as a surprise return somewhere down the line.

BenDTU ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:42:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed, there are heaps of Marvel villains theyโ€™ve killed off that I wish they hadnโ€™t.

KropotkinKlaus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol itโ€™s comics. Death doesnโ€™t prevent a return

VIsForVoltz2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:26:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

People say that but it's never been the case in the movies

KropotkinKlaus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If they felt they could get a big fan reaction from it, I can't say I'd be surprised at a return.

Worthyness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:18:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Excuse you. All those people you call "heroes" are the true villains of the movie, Thanos was the hero the universe deserved.

Rozace1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Xxslash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:00:10 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did she really survive though??

The first Marvel movie in AGES in which the villain doesnโ€™t die at the end.

BenDTU ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:01:02 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Post credits is pretty much outside the scope of the movie as far as Iโ€™m concerned ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

Meech96 ยท 1349 points ยท Posted at 01:52:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

May be an unpopular opinion, but I thought Ghost was a really cool villain.

ThatIowanGuy ยท 536 points ยท Posted at 01:54:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So one of my favorite moments in the movie was wasps first fight with ghost, ghost picks up wasp and falls through a table causing wasp to smash into a table, really cool way to show off her powers.

BunyipPouch ยท 326 points ยท Posted at 02:12:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Every fight scene was a highlight in this movie. Especially the kitchen one.

JimmyScramblesIsHot ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 12:36:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The kitchen one was an 8/10 for me but I really wish they kept doing funny things with the items in the kitchen. Wasp utilizes them but that salt shaker becoming huge made me audibly burst out a laugh. Itโ€™s just so absurd.

Worthyness ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:27:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Peyton Reed wanted the scene to show how kick names and take ass Wasp was. So there wouldn't be any gags with the items.

merf78 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:20:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i think the physics (or lack there of) that ant manโ€™s and ghostโ€™s powers use makes for some of the most creative fight scenes in the mcu

Topblokelikehodgey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:10:33 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's incredibly hard for any of them to actually land a hit so when they do it's actually very important to the fight. Awesome stuff

Foeyjatone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:10:02 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hope running along the knife was so sick, but Ghost's power set and visuals are incredible. I could watch her walk around with that effect all day

whiskeybill ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:50:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kinda disagree, I thought the way they used Ghost's powers was just super arbitrary. If the can phase more or less at will how do they connect on any punches at all?

TheSpiderWithScales ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 13:20:55 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They literally explain that she phases in and out of โ€œexistenceโ€. Sometimes sheโ€™s there, sometimes she isnโ€™t. Therefore some punches will connect and some will not.

Did you miss her entire origin story?

Terazilla ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:33:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They show Fishburne getting her to try a few times to successfully take the book from him. I figured she can do it at will but her default state is phased and she has to concentrate on it.

juel1979 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly. I was a bit thrown that her being able to connect or not connect was a bit โ€œrule of cool.โ€

fprosk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:48:00 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, that's also how all the shrinking powers work

talones ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 03:40:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also her threatening Hank with her hand through his neck.

ThatIowanGuy ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 03:53:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or vaulting through the suv to get to the motorcycle

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:16:23 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought she was just straight up squeezing his vocal cords so he couldn't call for help.

HLCRHLCR ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:41:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hell yeah that suplex was pretty cool.

roneman815 ยท 431 points ยท Posted at 02:13:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So SHIELD was pretty messed up turning a child into an assassin.

Isn't that basically exactly what the bad people(Russia?) did to Romanoff?

woofle07 ยท 524 points ยท Posted at 02:18:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's been established in previous movies and shows that SHIELD isn't always 100% good. Sometimes they do some pretty shady, morally grey stuff. Project Insight, using the Tesseract to make weapons, the TAHITI project. None of that exactly screams "we're the good guys!"

2th ยท 299 points ยท Posted at 02:32:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also, kind of like HYDRA, SHIELD has many different parts and not all of them know what the others are doing.

Velorium_Camper ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 03:25:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just figured that Hydra probably turned her into an assassin for their gain.

Krimsinx ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 02:39:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that was my thought too, we as the audience, know a lot about how SHIELD was infiltrated, wouldn't surprise me if this was a HYDRA cell that was using her as an assassin to remove obstacles in their way for their eventual world domination goals.

Worthyness ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:28:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, when you have intangibility and cloaking powers, that's one hell of an assassin.

ribblesquat ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 14:05:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also, some of those parts literally were HYDRA until Winter Soldier.

proddy ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 14:12:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

SHIELD had HYDRA among their ranks for decades.

RadioOnThe_TV ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:33:52 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sheild WAS hyrdra.

awwhitford ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:11:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because they were actually Hydra

RadioOnThe_TV ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:33:29 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hyrda also was half of shield in secret.

lumberzach316 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:36:27 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shield was Hydra during all of those events anyway.

amendmentforone ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 02:24:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, could've been the Hydra parts of SHIELD using her at the time.

TrueLink00 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:59:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I definitely got the impression that it was the Hydra part.

jdragon3 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:31:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Its straight out of their playbook.

Space-Jawa ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:31:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost basically just another Winter Soldier to them, but one they can't use as freely and with a much more limited lifespan.

LupinThe8th ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 02:19:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This would have been back when they were secretly controlled by Hydra, so no surprise they got up to some shady shit.

Alinosburns ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:21:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Eh I think excusing these things because of hydra infiltration iswrong.

SHIELD exists to protect, if that means having a murder spy. That makes sense

I think pretending that shield is all sunshine and happiness is kinda the wrong way to go about it there are undoubtedly some dark corners in there and they arenโ€™t all going to be hydras fault

TammersHammers ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:39:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hail Hydra!

jcutta ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:32:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Whispered between friends.

whiskeybill ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:51:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kinda assumed that was just the Hydra branch of Shield turning her into an assassin.

mr_popcorn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:53:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think she was recruited by Hydra plants inside SHIELD. That's definitely something evil that they would do. Like thawing Bucky out and giving him a robot arm and turning him into a super assassin.

RadioOnThe_TV ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:33:10 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sheild was Hyrda though. Hyrdra infiltrated and ran a large part of sheild. I assumed ghost was a hyrdra project.

KonigSteve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:44 on October 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Probably wasn't shield shield, but hydra within shield

genecalmer ยท 1144 points ยท Posted at 01:58:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really liked that the movie didn't have a real villian. Just a girl in pain and some idiots who were really just annoyances. There was a second though were I thought/hoped that Janet was going to turn out bad and destroy Ghost.

Meech96 ยท 241 points ยท Posted at 02:25:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s a good point, Iโ€™m not even sure what to refer to Ghost as. I feel like antihero wouldnโ€™t be accurate either

TammersHammers ยท 360 points ยท Posted at 02:35:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She's (one of) the antagonist. Not necessarily a villain, but her goals are opposite of our protagonists'. She's just trying to find a way to stop the pain and live.

Goggins is out for money.

Park and the FBI are just doing their jobs.

CTeam19 ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 03:54:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Which is great. I wish we had more movies like that.

shnmchl61 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:42:44 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought for sure that she was going to ditch Bill and go after Scott's daughter like he told her not to do. That probably would've ruined the group trying to help her though.

MateoTimateo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:45:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Goggins is out for money.

Do we ever figure out who Goggins is answering to?

Chad_Summerchild ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 10:39:00 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The San Francisco Health Department

genecalmer ยท 468 points ยท Posted at 02:27:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just someone who's afraid to die.

chime ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:26:59 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And in pain. Chronic pain can mess your mind up and lower your tolerance for BS. I had a herniated disc earlier this year and I can totally sympathize with her character. Not saying her actions are acceptable. Just understandable.

41shadox ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 15:26:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that really rolls off the tongue

gnschk ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:51:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who also isnโ€™t afraid of killing others so she can live

genecalmer ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 22:05:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think, in the face of looming death, that most people would choose themselves over strangers.

ChaoticMidget ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:23:03 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Especially if they have a reason for revenge. It's one thing to kill a complete stranger. It's another to kill someone who has some role, if quite indirect, in killing your parents and causing your current predicament.

Hiccup ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:54:24 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but she's really sympathetic.

BRAND_NEW_GUY25 ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 02:46:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

a wussy /s

DragonStriker ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 04:24:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She's not a villain, but more so just an antagonist. She's not doing anything out of malice, but out of pure survival. It just so happens that the key to her survival is the death of a character the heroes desperately want back.

I actually like the way they did villains this time. It's nice to be able to have a villain you can actually symphatise with, who isn't inherently doing something evil. You can easily see Ghost not doing these things if there was another better way.

PM_me_ur_FavItem ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:36:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The term โ€œAnti-Villainโ€ is applicable here, you can use that.

GoTron88 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:15:17 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I prefer the term "Ant-Villain"

StayPuffGoomba ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:33:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Antagonist

GoTron88 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:15:46 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-agonist

Endormoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

antagonist.

ithinkther41am ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think Jeremy Jahns made a good point when he referred to them as obstacles rather than villains.

caramelfrap ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 07:36:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. This was a great contrast to the heaviness and gravity of Infinity War. It felt good to watch a hilarious light hearted movie about a guy and his friends trying to save Pyms wife. Its why I loved the first Ant Man, low stakes movies are great because the struggles the characters go through are real and can be related to the audience.

Space-Jawa ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:29:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Infinity War: Fight over the fate of the universe and the lives of countless individuals.

Ant-Man and The Wasp: Fight over a building and the life of one or two individuals.

caramelfrap ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:47:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but I dont care about the fate of the fucking universe lmao, how do I emotionally connect with that struggle. Its not hard to shoot the stakes super high. With Ant Man I can relate to the struggle to save one person you love. I understand the pain that Hank goes through trying to find his lifelong partner and wife and I understand the urgency of Paul Rudd to make sure he has a future with his daughter. I guess im lame though

Space-Jawa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:51:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was mostly just making a (hopefully humorous) contrast of Infinity War vs AM&W.

caramelfrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh shit my bad haha. Yeah there was a pretty big contrast between the movies

genecalmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:50:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I've been waiting for a low stakes story driven Batman movie since I played Arkham Asylum.

caramelfrap ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:50:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought the idiot villains were great. They just wanted money plain and simple and were comically evil. Then โ€œfightingโ€ with the security company xcon was hilarious.

ReykjavikRed ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:11:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I kind of liked that aspect too. When people said Wonder Woman fell apart in the finale, I always just thought it suffered from the limitations of the super hero genre. With that film,

mr_popcorn ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:47:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean i dont wanna jinx it but its so cool that Marvel is finally figuring out how to utilise their bad guys. Or in this case, not so much a villain but simply an antagonist who simply opposed our heroes for most of the movie. Definitely one of the better MCU villains for sure.

edthomson92 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:08:37 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Goggin's character was the only real villain...and, even though he was great in the role, they probably could've cut the character

Fresh4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I definitely liked that it was different in that sense. But of course if it's not a perfect and generic three act structure with a villain to be beaten by the hero, someone's gonna say something like "it's too all over the place" or "things just happen and go nowhere".

I'm perfectly content with it.

DrewbieWanKenobie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When she showed she was willing to go after the kid is when I started thinking of her as a villain. The only reason she didn't was because dude said he wouldn't help her if she did. But she was still willing to.

SarcasticGamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:57 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn! I had the same thought of Janet as well. When she went in to cure her I thought she was going to vaporize her or something and turn to Hank and say she's not the same person. That would have been fucking trippy. And then have the snappening happen and have the movie just end. I guess I shouldn't direct a marvel movie. Lol.

Vranak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:51:31 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

wait you wanted Ghost to die? are you serious bro? she's adorable!

nin_ninja ยท 186 points ยท Posted at 01:57:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They just didn't do enough with her. You get her tragic backstory and just enough reason for her to be a badass.

Walton Goggins on the other hand should have been bad as a standard villain for money however it's Walton Goggins so it's automatically great

TammersHammers ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:38:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed, I love me some Goggins and he played that role as best as he could, but it was really just a standard villain trying to make money. It would have been nice if they gave him some more motivation. Did they ever mention who his buyer was? I didn't catch that, if it was in the movie, but they could have done something with that potentially.

whoiswillo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:38:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They didn't mention the buyer, but it's someone bad who you don't tell no to. I suspect Goggins will be back in order to set up whomever that was later on.

Worthyness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:30:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Plus if he goes to the same prison as justin hammer, who knows what shenanigans they could get into

Lineman72T ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:24:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like both characters weren't great, but the actors worked their asses off to make it work.

Ghost had enough story to understand her motivation, but I feel like they could have done more. As I just got home, I haven't had much time to think about what they could have done, but I just feel like there could have been more to her. However, Hannah John-Kamen did an awesome job with what she was given and made me really feel like she was in this incredible pain and was doing what she had to.

Walton's character was a generic money hungry bad guy and written as such. But he's an amazing actor and did what he could to make it not terrible.

2th ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 02:31:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She was a pointless villain honestly. Everything could have been accomplished simply by talking things out in like 10 minutes. She was however, incredibly neat to watch and the fight scenes were a visual treat.

NLP19 ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 03:25:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but how the hell would she know she needs to talk things out? In her mind, she's dead in two weeks. I would think most people in that situation would panic and try to find any way possible to save themselves

jcutta ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 04:31:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Plus she's been in horrible pain her whole life and trained to be a killer by SHIELD. She's probably not super mentally stable.

onerustybucket ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 07:50:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also, they did try to talk it out.

All the Ants were tied up and talking them out of sacrificing Janet to save Ava, saying that Janet could possibly be instrumental in helping her.

But Ava is too close to dying, too desperate to listen to reason. She even genuinely considers using Cassie, an uninvolved kid as leverage to get them to give up the lab.

She doesn't want to die, but she's getting closer and closer.

ProtoReddit ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:44:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was what made her great, though. It emphasized just how much pain she's been in for years.

aSpookyScarySkeleton ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:17:00 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She did try to talk things out though. There was an entire scene of that.

The only thing was for her initial plan to work they'd have to sacrifice Janet, so the diplomacy failed.

PointsOutTheUsername ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:30:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Matrix Reloaded already did it.

TellYouEverything ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And better, cinematically, considering all the long takes of motion-controlled camerawork.

However, the virus twins instantly became a joke and I cared about ghost. I just wish they took longer to show her backstory without needing that huge scene full of expository dialogue, the one that they chose to undercut for laughs with a ringing phone, this is arguably your most interesting new character that your introducing in this film, and you decide to make a joke while we find out the reason sheโ€™s so fโ€™d up? Come on, mayn!

AgentAtrocitus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:05:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I had a hard time liking her because it was one of those moments where the conflict arises from awful communication skills. No one ever thought "Hey lets combine our efforts and make something that could mainline the quantum energy into her and stop fighting"

[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 03:58:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Walter Goggins whose entire motivation was quite literally, and I quote...

dramatic camera zoom "$1 billion dollars!"

That guy? I could not think of a worse villain in any movie ever except Ghost, in the very same film.

austinsystem ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 01:57:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost was an awesome villain, didnโ€™t want to take over the world just wanted to not die and had sick powers doing it

1337speak ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:10:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah we could really see the pain in her eyes, she was so desperate to alleviate it. I like how Dr. Bill Foster (Lawrence Fishbourne) recognized this and was actively trying to help her without going against his own values.

In_My_Own_Image ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 02:25:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She was solid. Good motivation and her distortion effects were fucking awesome. But I felt they could have done a bit more to flesh her out.

Sisiwakanamaru ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 02:04:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Between this movie, Tomb Raider, and Ready Player One, This movie Utilize Hannah John-Kamen's performance really well.

I am so glad that her career got a boost in movie department. Hopefully, she got bigger after Killjoys is finished.

_Discordian ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:17:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm really hoping we see more of her, especially since it was hinted that she needs regular dosing, meaning her powers presumably can return.

McMqsmith ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:25:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty sympathetic. She wasnโ€™t evil. Just desperate.

sdupui3 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:17:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well she was nice to look at.

Shtogus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:41:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When you really think about it, she had the best motivation out of all the phase 3 villains. She didnโ€™t want to tear apart the Avengers, she didnโ€™t want to balance the universe, she wanted to live.

1337speak ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:58:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like how Marvel is really humanizing their villains, it makes them much more realistic. It's much scarier to see how someone we can relate to, can do something fucked up.

Scottyflamingo ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:38:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The MCU has really addressed the problem of poor villains. Killmonger an Ghost are both somewhat sympathetic with more complex motivations while Thanos and Ego are just great villains period.

rixxxand ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:12:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was Ego really a great villain though..ehh

wabojabo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:48:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He was charismatic and he was Kurt Russell. Those are plenty of reasons for me to like him.

Cocobender ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:02:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agreed with you until Ego. He was shit. The rest were great.

KingTyranitar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He was charming due to Kurt Russell

toxicbrew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:40 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Bushmaster roo

vadergeek ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:56:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't care for her. She didn't really have an established personality, her costume looked kind of cheesy, her motivation was fine but not especially well explored, and I didn't love her fight scenes. Also, why was she strong? She's not Vision, who phases through density, why is she so strong?

MusclesRipley ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would love a stand-alone flick for Ghost. I love how they visually represented her and her being a sympathetic foil was welcomed.

MasterofSciFi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They could have expanded on her a little but I thought she was entertaining and was visually interesting (design and fight scenes)

GetReady4Action ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought her abilities were really cool. Her suit was dope too. Her character was rather whatever though.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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REkTeR ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:08:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The conflict couldnโ€™t have been solved by talking. The issue was that nobody knew exactly how to help her. They knew that they could help Ghost by pulling the quantum particles out of the mom, but also thought that that might kill the mom. But they also didnโ€™t really have any other specific ideas of how to help her. While of course it turned out to have a solution that made everyone happy, none of the characters actually knew that until the final moment.

ColeTrickleVroom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She was fantastic and her motivation was totally understandable.

mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She wasnt a straight up villain just the antagonist. She was good tho.

dating_derp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sympathetic antagonists are always the best.

[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 03:57:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She was taken and experimented with, and the entire film she just wants to fix her body and avoid death.

In what universe is that not the making of a shockingly generic villain? It's even worse than generic, because a generic villain would have some kind of generic character arc thst brings them back to the good side or shows good in them.

What movie did you watch bro?!?!!?

the1egend1ives ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 00:12:28 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Here's something I noticed that people haven't mentioned yet. A lot of Marvel movies tend to ignore the consequences set in place by the previous film. For instance, even though The Dark World ended with Loki on the throne in order to tease a third film, Taika Waititi kind of waved that cliffhanger away in the first 20 minutes. In Ant-Man and the Wasp, however, it really felt like the fallout of Civil War was felt in this movie. So kudos to the film and Peyton Reed.

jim25y ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:04:38 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would argue that Odin being dethroned and on Earth led to his death and him not making sure Hela stayed in the underworld, and that had pretty large consequences.

RandomRageNet ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:11:03 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He was dying anyway. Freya remarks in Thor TDW that the Odinsleep is taking longer and longer.

Swisskisses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:44:33 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I def think Peyton Reed was the best guy for this film. They are both top notch

ArrrGaming ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, my very least favorite thing about it.

Avnaran ยท 429 points ยท Posted at 03:28:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Forgive me if this is dumb, but did anybody catch when Janet said "advances human evolution" in the Quantum Realm to explain her developed powers? I have a feeling that may help introduce mutants to the MCU now that the Disney/Fox deal is finalizing. I could be wrong, but just a feeling.

syxxpakk ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 04:06:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thought the same thing.

GAdvance ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 16:19:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If they manage to get fox in time then i think a result of undoing the snap might be mutants becoming a thing, either by in universe time travel retcon or as an after effect of whatever crazy thing they have to pull off to fix the damage of the snap

EFG ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:10:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Makes sense as to why they pushed things back. Time travel with the quantum realm fucking with the past changing humans in the future after the snap is reversed would be perfect. Then the MCU would be absolutely bonkers.

Just realized that maybe Ghost will have something to do with it as well as they specifically mentioned she's living in different realities...and the fact she's basically a mutant that can't control her powers.

Desmoquattro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:09:49 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How is she a mutant?

CoolVinnie ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:41:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I guess because the quantum energy โ€œmutatedโ€ her? But I guess by that logic any superhero would be one too lol.

SincereJester ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:11:36 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, technically speaking by Marvel's definition, any human who got powers is a mutate. You're only a mutant if you were born with those powers.

One logical lapse I always have to make when reading Marvel comics is why is there so much hatred and animosity towards mutants but not towards Captain America or the Fantastic Four. They all have powers.

EsQuiteMexican ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:42:36 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's a comic where it's established that humans carry a brain parasite that mutants are immune to, similar to cordyceps, so the parasite evolved into modifying the human brain so that they have a literally ingrained fear/hate of mutants.

SincereJester ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:07:51 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my. I can"t believe that got approved to be in a comic. That totally shatters the original and even contemporary social commentary on why there is prejudice against mutants.

EsQuiteMexican ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:50:54 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait till you hear about the time Spider-Man killed Mary Jane with his radioactive semen.

CoolVinnie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:48:46 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah seriously, not as if the whole world knows they werenโ€™t born that way. Kinda strange.

words_words_words_ ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:29:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Felt like a very subtle move in that direction, yeah.

1The_Mighty_Thor ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:43:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I did not think about that! That would be a neat way to do it

MuffaloMan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:10:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was more of a reference to how Captain Marvel's powers are gonna work. Janet seemed like a precursor to the Other Cap.

Leo_TheLurker ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:19:22 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

oh. my. god.

MY-SECRET-REDDIT ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:28:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

the problem is that they already have mutants, which everyone ignores but agents of shield. in that show there was an event which basically kickstarted mutants and now basically a large population of the world has powers. which got completely ignored in civil war.

EDIT: i forgot to mention, im talking about the inhumans (not the show, the ones that appeared first in AoS)

[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 06:03:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's basically undeclared levels of canon here, old Star Wars expanded universe style. If it happened in the movies, it's canon in the shows, but nothing that's happened in the shows so far has been established to be canon in the movies. Not a single, miniscule reference.

Laue ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:30:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Daisy (at the very least) really should be an Avenger.

Nanosauromo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:03 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost Rider, too.

Drago-Morph ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:53:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Incorrect. The events of Agents of SHIELD were pivotal to Age of Ultron - both the Hydra raid in the beginning and the Helicarrier rescue at the end were directly set up in Agents of SHIELD, and Nick Fury gives a cryptic shoutout to that crew in the film.

EsQuiteMexican ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:43:47 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Hydra raid was set up in Winter Soldier though.

the1egend1ives ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 08:24:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's because none of the Marvel TV shows are cannon. The mediums belong to two different people. Don't try to convince yourself that they're part of the MCU. You'll only hurt yourself.

OdoisMyHero ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:56:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Those are Inhumans. Not the same thing.

MY-SECRET-REDDIT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

im aware, but they serve the very exact purpose.

Sorge74 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:07:53 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I disagree....mutants are suppose to have some sort of stigma.... Not that it remotely works as well as it used to.

_existentialyodeling ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:48 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Inhumans have a stigma too

MY-SECRET-REDDIT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:15:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They do, at least in the show. They're essentially mutants.

True_to_you ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Probably more of a rights issue. Although they're the same property, they're different mediums with different rights.

MY-SECRET-REDDIT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:14:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

doubt it, they directly referenced thanos, the avengers, nick fury, maria hill, and agent sif have appeared.

but i guess, the movies literally never reference the shows, so you might be on to something.

EsQuiteMexican ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:44:50 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The heads of the studios hate each other.

bloodflart ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:08:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

scarlet witch is a mutant right? she does that hand on the head glowy power like janet too

Avnaran ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 14:37:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Unfortunately, there's been no confirmation of Scarlett Witch being a mutant in the MCU. They called her and Quicksilver "miracles", and their powers were given to them by the mind stone. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong).

MindWeb125 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 16:57:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not that unfortunate. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver have been retconned like 5 million times in the comics to be different things. Additionally they haven't always been Magneto's kids either. So this doesn't cause any problems.

_tylerthedestroyer_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:22:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They were just unretconned to not be his kids anymore

chawzda ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:33:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Slight correction, they are referred to as "Enhanced" but yeah the explanation for their powers is from the mind stone.

zeroGamer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:08:23 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scarlet Witch (in the MCU at least) would be a mutate, by the comic definition, which is a human that gained powers - as opposed to mutants, which are born with the X-Gene and latent powers through that.

I think there are even some mutant mutates, mutants that gained additional powers in addition to whatever their X-Gene lets them do.

Worthyness ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:07:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Could be setting up a sequel. There's a story line called "the Red Queen" from the ant-man series. It's an alternate version of Hope Van Dyne who essentially becomes obsessed with the avengers and angry at them for "letting" her parents die. She goes crazy and tries to kill the avengers. So if they're setting up for another sequel. they can make Janet the bad guy- have her slowly devolve into a version of the Red Queen. Also int he comics, wasp's wings are organic. It's possible that the mutation she's referring to could be the incorporation of her wing tech into her body, so she's an organic shrinking bee woman. Would make for an awesome arc for Hank, hope, and Janet.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:47:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Terazilla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:46:43 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed, I would love for that to not happen.

roneman815 ยท 267 points ยท Posted at 01:59:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dread it. Run from it.

The Snappening arrives all the same.

Bitey_the_Squirrel ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:20:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Perfectly balanced

FGHIK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:51:16 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If I never saw another Thanos quote again, it'd be too soon.

omart3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Reddit, run from it ... destiny still arrives!

Tonkarz ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 13:44:09 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Paul Ruddโ€™s acting when Janet moved into Scottโ€™s body was so good that it was instantly clear what happened as soon as it did.

ranch_brotendo ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:30:47 on August 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that scene was actually emotional as well rather than just dumb or cringey

noobalicious ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:49:06 on October 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't want to spoil the show, but Altered Carbon on Netflix did almost the same thing but acted out even better. Not saying Paul Rudd wasn't great, just that altered carbon explored the same idea even deeper.

Surfer949 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:39:06 on October 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yes that actor in Altered Carbon did it 10 times better! that was a trip lol..

Sisiwakanamaru ยท 585 points ยท Posted at 01:53:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Some thoughts about the movie (X-Post from /r/marvelstudios):

  • I know some people prefer the first one but for me I prefer Ant-Man and the Wasp.

  • Paul Rudd and Evangeline Lilly have a great chemistry in this movie and their team-up added a value that I want after the First movie, especially Evangeline Lilly as Wasp. Her fierceness, swagger, and badassery were delightful

  • Hank Pym also got few moments to bust one or two jokes and it was fun to watch him did those. I like that when he joked about "How is School?".

  • Michelle Pfeiffer has a great screen presence even her appearance was not much in the movie. You know, there is something special that make you admire her character throughout the movie

  • Ghost/Ava is better than I expected. She is not Killmonger or Thanos, but we know what has driven her to those things throughout the movie and she has clear pathos. Hannah-John Kamen also performed well in this movie and her performance is better than her character in Ready Player One.

  • I like that Cassie's Apperance in here is more meaningful than the first one and I like that she became a moral center for Scott. I like that moment when she, Hope, and Scott watched a movie together and Hope ask her what is she going to be when she's older. Also, she was really cute when she had a big smile while watching her dad on a Live TV.

  • X-Con gangs were great as usual, Luis is a human juxebox, and Kurt reciting a baba yaga song was hilarious.

  • I also like the running gag with Jimmy Woo that he always fail to catch Scott Red-Handed

  • I kinda wish that Sonny Burch got more development and so he isn't much of a hatesink in the movie. The Third act was kinda little busy for me but the Car Chases was one of the most creative things in this movie.

  • Also, I kinda wish they spent bit more time in a quantum realm, it feels kinda rushed. But the visual was pretty good.

  • In the end, I like the movie and I like it better than the first one because the whole cast did a better performance than the previous movie. Plus, I feel like this movie is more confident than the first one 7.5 - 8 out of 10 from me

P.S. The mid and after credit scenes are nice thing to connect to recent events in the MCU.

NLP19 ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 03:17:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It felt like an 80's comic book come to life. I loved it

thomar ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:34:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

All the Quantum Realm stuff was straight out of Jack Kirby illustrations. This movie and Doctor Strange pulled it off so well.

bigpig1054 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 03:20:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank Pym also got few moments to bust one or two jokes and it was fun to watch him did those. I like that when he joked about "How is School?".

Not just that but he suited up and got his hands a little dirty. It wasn't much but my son (whose favorite super hero ever is Hank Pym's Ant-Man) was over the moon to see it.

Drewboy810 ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 02:04:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good work not using embellished language. Literally the best review of a movie I think Iโ€™ve ever heard.

Homeschooled316 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 02:11:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Youโ€™re telling me going to a thesaurus to find the most pretentious possible word for everything doesnโ€™t make you smart OR a good critic?

TheAquaman ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:16:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Indubitably.

Striker__Eureka ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:29:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just use "tremendous" and "spellbinding" a lot and you're halfway there.

Homeschooled316 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:08:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œVexatiouslyโ€

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:34:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The irony of this comment...

rlheisener ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:07:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why? The only 3+ syllable words he used are "embellished" and "literally"

xModulus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:14:28 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The only "simpler" word I can think of to replace embellished is "fancy"

amirchukart ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:00:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm hoping its intentional

MasterofSciFi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:14:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would have liked to get a couple more Ghost scenes, and a tad more of Fishburne, also more Walton Goggins humor and more desperation from Hank would have been cool.

DragonStriker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:27:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think they didn't want to do much with the Quantum Realm for the sake of "surprising us" in Avengers 4.

Like, they want to really show what the Quantum Realm can do there.

snappyk9 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:30:49 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked the movie but we need to address some concerns.

  • The random unexplained assortment of powers that Janet has and that nothing about the quantum realm got detailed, was disappointing and almost insulting considering we expected to get some answers about all of this.

  • Scott goes from being a smart guy with an engineering degree to being the dumb comedy relief.

  • Hope's character doesn't get the actual spotlight because we need to care about Scott's sideplot of running back to his house. Also Randall Park wasn't really that interesting in his role.

  • Walton Goggins' villain is generic, doesn't add anything in terms of plot or character development. Just bogs down the pace and steals Ghost's screentime which could have been used to develop her instead of shoveling exposition down our throats during the crew's capture.

I hope the next Antman movie hits its stride and that Ghost can reappear because she was quite good. Also that school hallway scene was the hardest I've ever laughed in a theatre.

njasa10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:59:38 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought Michelle Pfeiffer was horrible in this. Every scene she was in was over the top corny. They rest of the movie was good but man she really took me out of it. It was probably mostly the writing I guess.

HardKhorToon ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 14:48:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s really nice to see Scottโ€™s ex-wife and her husband being so supportive of him.

navjot94 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:39:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I was afraid they were going to turn on him with the house arrest and all that they showed in the trailers.

greatness101 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:47:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm surprised they didn't since they seemed to be very against his antics in the first movie. Seemed like a complete heel turn this movie, but probably because of how he saved them at the end of the first one.

navjot94 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:49:26 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also I can see part of it being them siding with Captain America for the events of Civil War. That's probably the type of thing that split the country in the MCU.

TheNorthComesWithMe ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:39:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

(It's called a face turn. Heel turn is good -> bad)

reallifesexdoll ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 15:52:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think ant man is my favorite series of all mcu, there is no I gotta save the world stuff, just a lightweight and funny heist movie (first one) and now a lightweight and funny rescue mission movie.

Wow marvel, just wow

dewsh ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:00:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost's motivation was good too. It wasn't to gain more power, get revenge, or do something nefarious. She was just out to save her own life.

carolinemathildes ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:49:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really liked that. The stakes don't always have to be universe-ending.

jpetersinmd ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:02:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think that is part of its strength. It definitely gives a unique niche in the MCU.

boomboxpinata ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:19:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

it really is, and i hope we get to see cassie and scott team up cause that would be both gnarly and warm everyoneโ€™s heart at the same time..

iโ€™m betting we see a younger avengers team going forward..

jpetersinmd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:30:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, part of Ant-Man is the generational aspect. GotG added that in the second movie, and there are some lateral transfers in others (like Bucky or Falcon for CA). If MCU lasts for 20 years, I could easily see that they take a generational evolution.

RD_Alpha_Rider ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:10:23 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Spiderman was the same way. It's refreshing.

[deleted] ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 22:52:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The scene with Peรฑa as the voice of the other cast was amazing.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:43:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would give good money to see him do a recap of any Marvel movie and have the actors mouthing along all sassy.

JDLovesElliot ยท 160 points ยท Posted at 06:01:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Evangeline Lilly, in her Wasp suit and with the pulled-back ponytail, looked like a freaking goddess.

mikeweasy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:41:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

OMG YES her BF is a lucky man.

PsamathosPsamathides ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:23:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My thurst was real, dude

maszhanan ยท 156 points ยท Posted at 06:48:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Post credit scene though:

Post Thanos snap TV having the colored bars Empty house with only ants playing electronic drum

Did you guys find that unsettling?

johndoe42 ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 07:05:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of post-apocalyptic movies do that sort of thing but this time it was simply as you said, unsettling.

TEGCRocco ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 08:40:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think it has a lot to do with just how much of a tonal shift it was from the rest of the movie, which was a pretty lightweight, fun ride.

devw94 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:55:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Very

lllMONKEYlll ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:03:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Much.

MurderousPaper ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:11:44 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They played that shot as a gag in the trailers, it was totally jarring seeing it with all the unsettling context.

Guardians_of_Pawnee ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 19:02:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One of the best scenes is when Scott, Hank, and Hope are going to see Bill and they put on their โ€œdisguisesโ€ and Scott basically calls out the whole MCU about how any normal person would immediately recognize them.

ManateeofSteel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

no one but Spiderman tries to hide their identity in Marvel films

Yuokes ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 19:15:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well they did in winter soldier and civil war.

deadrebel ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:38:04 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also, Widow, Cap AND Bucky have used a baseball cap and sunglasses as a "disguise" specifically - lots of meta jokes in this one.

DreamcastJunkie ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:44:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, Bucky's identity wasn't publicly known until the bombing, and after that somebody on the street did notice him.

666lucifer ยท 615 points ยท Posted at 02:30:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
ryantyrant ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 02:38:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't really understand why they weren't immediately like hey what happened to you and your dad is really fucked up, let's save Janet and then we'll all work together to save you.

SushiMage ยท 344 points ยท Posted at 04:38:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I dont understand why everyone thinks she'd be so understanding and patient. Were you guys watching the same film?

She's been in chronic pain and is very irratic. In fact Lawrence Fishburnes character is the only reason she didnt completely go off the deep end.

She wanted to kill Hank - talked out of it by fishburne who suggested she watch him instead.

Wanted to kidnapp/hurt/kill Scotts daughter - again stopped by fishburnes character.

I highly doubt them trying to reason with her would have actually done anything once she was so set on her original plan. Plus there's bias against the main characters because of Fishburnes character.

Khal-Stevo ยท 143 points ยท Posted at 19:07:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

People are conveniently forgetting the scene where Fishbourneโ€™s character literally says Janet is a genius and might be able to save her and sheโ€™s having none of it. She wasnโ€™t going to change her mind via a conversation with strangers, especially strangers that hated her dad

Worthyness ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 06:52:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And then Janet literally saves her at the end.

Pastlife123 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:08:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like the thing you pointed out. It made me understand the character a bit more. Thanks.

MurderousPaper ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:02:18 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Havenโ€™t you heard? Nitpicking a movie to death is more fun than enjoying them for what they are these days.

SushiMage ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:59:17 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean in this case the nitpick is wrong too.

MurderousPaper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:32 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly

whiskeybill ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:58:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yea but why wouldn't Ghost and Bill Foster just go right to Hank Pym in the first place? Hell, if Ghost was so dead set on killing Hank Pym in the first place why didn't she just do that in the van when she stole the McGuffin?

NLP19 ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 18:18:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Foster and Pym kind of hate each other. Egos of their size wouldn't dare try to talk and understand one another

DodneyRangerfield ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:02:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank got her dad fired which she holds as the starting point of her losing her parents and being used and in chronic pain for 20 years

catanthill ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:26:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I felt that her dad killed himself with the risks. I don't think Hank was the reason. I think Ghost and Bill just conflates the two. I am surprised she didn't just ask Hank for help herself or go to the news. Hank doesn't have any qualm with Ghost and probably could have helped her the last 20 years. "Ghost girl in chronic pain" on news headlines also would surely gain a lot of exposure and motivate quantum scientists to help her for fame.

whiskeybill ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:45:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ok, so why doesn't she just kill him when shes phasing through his heart then?

scarleteagle ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 04:29:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Foster had convinced her not to, as he explained when they were tied up.

nestorishere ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:07:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Were you paying attention lol

roneman815 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:03:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cause she was basically kidnapped by SHIELD and turned into a weapon.

joalr0 ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 13:13:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

People have responded, but I think everyone's missing the main key point...

Ghost HAD a solution to her problem. She was going to take energy from Janet, problem solved. What Hank and the others had to offer was to try to come up with something, in a few weeks, which may or may not have been successful. If Janet came back, then she misses out on her opportunity for guaranteed recovery.

She didn't seem like she was willing to take the risk. Especially putting her trust in someone who she believed cause the problems to begin with.

nviledn5 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 04:17:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty sure itโ€™s because she:

  • wasnโ€™t thinking rationally due to her affliction
  • didnโ€™t trust Pym after Pymโ€™s antics in the past.
nocimus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:22:30 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is late but I barely saw the movie today.

Anyone who hasn't dealt with chronic pain won't understand what it must have been like for Ghost. There comes a point where all you want is to make it stop. You forget what it wasile to not wake up hurting. Ghost was extremely relatable.

StraY_WolF ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:49:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, they're all like this at the end of the movie. Not sure Hank would've help because Laurance Fishburne character thinks he's an asshole.

The only one that doesn't want this is Ghost herself.

cippopotomas ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:59:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't understand how Hank upgraded the wasp suit and fucked up the new ant man suit so hard. And then Scott kept using the new suit despite the new one fucking him over constantly.

nviledn5 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 04:16:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because it wasnโ€™t ready. He only gave it to Scott because Wasp was in trouble.

cippopotomas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wouldn't Hopes suit use the same exact regulator? Why is this suit incomplete? They showed it broken but they never managed to fix it. It's the piece that prevents him from going into sub space, that isn't a priority?

Why'd scott choose to use an incomplete malfunctioning suit over a functioning suit once he had both?

nviledn5 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 04:54:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

His Civil War suit had the piece they were using to track down the lab, so it was out of commission.

The suit is incomplete because Hank was working on it. He thought Scott either lost the CW suit or destroyed it. It was given to Scott as an emergency measure to save his daughter.

They also didnโ€™t really have the time or materials to fix the suit during the movie. Scott is given the incomplete suit in an emergency, Ghost takes the lab, they canโ€™t fix the suit. Rest of the plot happens.

666lucifer ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:23:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, this conflict might be one of the most talk-this-through-able in the entire MCU

Jhonopolis ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 06:23:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not really though because as far as anyone knew before Michelle Pfeiffer came back and used her magic hands Ghost had to actually harvest Pfeiffers energy to save herself.

JimmyScramblesIsHot ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 12:46:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How so? There was no guarantee they could find a cure in a matter of weeks. She was desperate as hell and wouldnโ€™t listen to anyone.

kansasjeremy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:35:25 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
nomadofwaves ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:31:56 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One of my favorite characters in the MCU. So fucking funny. I hope he made it from the ship.

Thatonesplicer ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 04:54:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I knew it was coming but i was still not ready for more dusting.

Corydoran ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:04:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The people at my screening weren't ready, either. Lots of loud "Ohs" when that happened.

sugarmetimbers ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 00:00:07 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really think the line where Scott is all like โ€œhow did he even manage to buy a ticket that fastโ€ was my favorite

Bomber131313 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:13:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know the World Best Grandma line was good or the juice box line.

sugarmetimbers ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:13:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not a funny line, but when Cassie says โ€œdonโ€™t laughโ€ my heart melted

Bomber131313 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:21:52 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So true.

I fine it fun he said he would be a horrible parent if he let her.........hey, is there a parent in the movie that lets his child be a superhero? Might that have been a small shot a Hank?

RandomRageNet ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:13:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The whole plot of the first Ant-Man is because Hank didn't want Hope to be a superhero so probably not

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yah, but at the very end he gives he the Wasp suit.

sugarmetimbers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:24:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s true, I never even thought of that! Probably a little knock on him

UNAMANZANA ยท 262 points ยท Posted at 02:21:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

125 minutes of film, and I feel like that post-snap scene has completely usurped my attention. Really looking forward to whatever role Scott has in Avengers 4

thegreattober ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 15:44:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tbh I wasn't entirely blown away by this one, so I honestly feel like I watched the whole movie just to see how they tied into Infinity War.

It wasn't bad don't get me wrong, I just think the first was better in my opinion

UNAMANZANA ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:52:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I'd have to agree. I loved the first Ant Man, and I loved how it basically, served as a pallet cleanser to Age of Ultron.

While I had fun with this one, I felt it was missing something that I just can't put my finger on, but I think it deals with the pacing of Scott's character arc.

Throughout most of the film, I just kept thinking: "Huh, no real arc from Scott. I don't really know what inner demon he's trying to overcome and how he's going to evolve."

Then, after that conversation with his daughter where he breaks into the FBI cell to rescue Hope and Hank, I thought to myself, "Oh, here's where they're trying to give him an arc," but something about it falls flat.

I'm not sure that this is it, but Scott's daughter basically gives him a lesson of needing a partner, but I'm not sure that that's the lesson he needed to learn since the beginning of the film? Like, he's never much of a lone wolf, and if anything, he's the one who's been a bit ostracized from Hank, he's not doing any "macho-man, I can take care of myself, shit."

Long story short, I feel like re-evaluating that character arc would have made the movie stronger, and it could have still served as a perfect post-Avengers pallet cleanser.

scarleteagle ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:53:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like his arc this movie was trying to find the balance between being a father to Cassie and being a hero. The first half of the movie he was desperate to get back home and avoid going to jail but after talking with Cassie I think he realized (in addition to needing a partner), he could be a hero and her father, and do his best to help all the people in his life. It was the difference between him doing what was safe (not violating house arrest so he could be there for Cassie), and doing what he felt was right, (helping the Pyms and stopping Ghost/Tech Dealer even at the risk of violating his house arrest).

It was a little sloppily communicated (especially with the emphasis on him needing a partner), but overall I thought it was a good continuation of his arc to be a good father from the first film. Besides being a little more comedy driven than the other Marvel movies, I think the big message behind the Ant-Man movies has been promoting a strong message of family and the lengths that people will go through to protect them. That and Scott has been one of the few heroes who has had to truly battle with the concept of Great Power and Great Responsibility between being a father to Cassie and being Ant-Man.

Worthyness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:02:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also I think they wanted to focus a bit on Hope too since she is technically a titular character. Her arc wasn't quite as defined as I wanted, but I was really pulling for her and Hank to get Janet back. Family seems to be really important to the Ant-man movies and they've clearly portrayed that well.

KevlarGorilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree. I feel like there were too many small plot holes in the flow (so I guess everyone is now in the van? And now everyone is away and safe from danger?). I thought they would play on the slight of hand stuff stronger, and there were dozens on ADR'd lines and quips that didn't need to be.

Not a bad movie, but I can safely say my main interest was the tie to Avengers.

TheDaveWSC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well she warned him not to fall into a time well...

Nascarfreak123 ยท 1591 points ยท Posted at 02:04:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Welcome to a timeline where we have

A fun, entertaining, cool ANTMAN SEQUEL

And a mediocre, forgettable JUSTICE LEAGUE.

What is going on?!

TreyWriter ยท 395 points ยท Posted at 02:14:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Peyton Reedโ€™s a talented director.

mr_popcorn ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:56:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Bring It On! is a stone cold classic.

don't @ me

dating_derp ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:14:51 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Have a good script also helps.

Vranak ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:25:27 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

apparently Paul Rudd himself got partial writing credit, a real rarity in the Marvel Cinematic Universe

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5095030/trivia/

MasterofSciFi ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 03:17:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Made one of the best movies Marvel Studios has done.

Dallywack3r ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:14:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol when??

MasterofSciFi ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 13:33:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously? I loved the movie! Better than I was expecting, I enjoyed it more than Winter Soldier, Ragnarok, Iron Man and Doctor Strange.

I know you probably checked out at Winter Soldier but lol

ledg3nd ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:37:04 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Winter soldier and ragnarok are my top 2 personally. I loved everything action/story wise with winter soldier and ragnarok felt like the most comic book super hero movie Iโ€™ve ever watched with all the colors.

foureyedinabox ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:36:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Martha!!

BatZach88 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:52:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!

007Kryptonian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:35:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So is Zack Snyder.

Howzieky ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 10:21:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
PaperJamDipper7 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 14:39:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd say so. His direction at the very least is always interesting. I always loved the look of his movies. He just can't write a script or plot for the life of his movies.

Give him a simple plot like 300 or zombies and he excels. Give him something of thematic heft and he goes in too deep and overthinks a lot of things. He's ambitiously limited but I can't help but admire the scope that he was shooting for.

whiskeybill ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:52:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Case in point: Sucker Punch

And I say that as someone who was a big enough Zach Snyder fan to see that movie in theaters opening night.

chicagoredditer1 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:14:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd say so. His direction at the very least is always interesting. I always loved the look of his movies. He just can't write a script or plot for the life of his movies.

Directing is managing the flow of the movie, successfully communicating the story and characters to an audience, a skill he is (generously) mediocre at. He fails at the most basic job of a director.

But yes, he does have a very specific aesthetic approach that is nice to look at.

davidxrawr ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:31:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Im in that weird position were I liked BvS. Disliked Justice Leaugue. And though Mqn od Steel was okay.

nagurski03 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:58:28 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Director as in the guy who tells the actors and cameras what to do, I'd say he's good.

Director as in the guy in charge of an entire movie, I'd say no.

He's made some great movies and even in his bad movies, there are lots of great individual scenes. IMO, he just needs much better scripts and someone to help with the editing.

I_Am_Paul_Dudd ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:57:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

TreyWriter:".........but he's a talented director."

Zack Snyder: "So was I."

JimmyScramblesIsHot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:38:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s debatable. He knows how to make a pretty movie. His track record in terms of actually quality coherent films is rather shoddy.

Vranak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:26:43 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Watchmen is phenomenal, Sucker Punch I liked a lot more than most, and 300 was intermittently interesting

Calhalen ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 04:48:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And ant man could gross more than justice league! Crazy

Worthyness ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 06:33:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good ol' "Flavor of the week" Ant-man

alexbhood ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 17:15:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And Black Panther is the 9th highest grossing movie of all time.

weighingthedog ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 05:28:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And Jurassic Park sucks now.

hell_of_a_bird ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 01:44:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tbf, Jurassic Park has sucked for awhile now.

weighingthedog ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:44:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You right.

Vranak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:37:58 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

even the original only worked for me the very first time I saw it, on a giant screen downtown on Granville Street back in 1994. On TV, it does not work for me at all.

PratalMox ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:51:29 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Last time Jurassic Park didn't suck was the first film

Malachi108 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 10:21:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Ant-Man sequel that will end of grossing twice that of a Han Solo standalone movie.

acautelado ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:26:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I actually think that the Han Solo movie was very fun.

meatSaW97 ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 04:18:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

An extremely rushed team up movie that had 70% of it pointlessly reshot vs A well made action comedy in a very well executed cinematic universe.

Duspinatra ยท -40 points ยท Posted at 04:38:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I get this sub is still riding the dc hate train but letโ€™s not get ahead of ourselves here, Antman 1 and this as well are both mediocre movies and pretty far from what I would call well made. Poor writing, character motivations, plot, story and consistency are just a few things that come to mind as to why this movie was crap. The villains were fucking terrible, the plot and story were terrible and uninteresting to the core and everything in the movie was played for laughs in the most insincere way possible. I guess when you throw enough low effort jokes at the โ€œlaugh at anythingโ€ audience any piece of shit can start looking like a โ€œwell madeโ€ movie.

Tell me, if this is a โ€œwell madeโ€ action comedy then what is incredibles 2? A far superior film which came out just about 2 weeks ago? Or what is Baby Driver? You guys on here will eat up any superhero shit with marvel studios in its name

Tvayumat ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 08:57:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well that's just like your opinion, man.

Orto_Dogge ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 23:55:02 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Poor writing, character motivations, plot, story and consistency are just a few things that come to mind as to why this movie was crap. The villains were fucking terrible, the plot and story were terrible and uninteresting to the core

Are we talking about "Justice League"?

Vranak ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:30:29 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

did you even see Ant Man and the Wasp? You'd have to be clinically depressed to give it less than a 7 out of 10

I'd give it a solid 8, 8.5 because it sticks the landing so well. The first hour and a half were a little inert and flat. Mildly amusing, mildly entertaining, but you could at least marvel at how sublimely beautiful Hope and Ava are.

nasshole ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:14:08 on August 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So 75% of the movie is "inert and flat" but you have to be depressed to not enjoy it? How can you even rationally come to that conclusion?

No_sign ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:12:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Incredibles 2 is not that good, and definitely not on par with the first one. It feels like the first episode of an Incredibles tv show more than a movie.

nomadofwaves ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:27:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I watched Justice League last night and holy shit was it terrible. How is the CGI just so bad? How is it Wonder-Woman is the best DC movie since the Nolan films?

Topblokelikehodgey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:55:10 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wonder woman is only "okay" too. What a shambles the DCEU is in at the moment. I'd certainly have it as a better movie than some of the MCU movies but I reckon that at least 10 are on par or better than it, including basically the whole of phase 3 apart from maybe guardians 2. That third act really let such a great opening 2 down.

thewisefoolHHH ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 02:59:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do we really need to keep bringing up Justice League anytime another superhero movie is well-received? Just let it be.

Neosantana ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 13:40:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's out of sheer anger. I grew up with Batman, Superman and the Justice League animated series, and they were fantastic. Lo and behold, WB fucked it up while Marvel turned a C-Lister into a damn good movie.

I wanna see my childhood heroes in a good movie, goddammit.

WillyTheWackyWizard ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 02:45:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Made an entire multi-billion dollar movie franchise out of literal nobodies

Krimsinx ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 03:00:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Kevin Feige built the MCU in a cave...WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!

mjacksongt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man is one of the original Avengers, I just can't see him being a C-lister.

The Guardians, though....I'm not sure they're C-list, but it's definitely not because they're on the A- or B- list.

Neosantana ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 11:29:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Spider-Man and X-MEN are A.

Iron Man, Thor, Captain America and Hulk are B.

Ant-Man and Black Panther are C.

Guardians are D.

I'm going by public popularity, not seniority or comic book prestige. Nobody gave a shit about Ant-Man unless they knew the comics.

mutesa1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:33:19 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thor isnโ€™t B, heโ€™s C at best

DBCrumpets ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:00:09 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Prior to the MCU Thor was much bigger than Iron Man. Probably the third most popular main Avenger behind the Hulk and Cap.

Vranak ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:29:00 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah Thor was a big deal back in my day, the 90s

Anjunabeast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:04:27 on August 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thor isnโ€™t a B. Youโ€™re a B. Thor is a man.

cubitfox ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 22:10:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Until DC understands that a talking Raccoon and Tree are far more popular now than their A-List iconic superheroes at the moment, then it needs reiterating how bad theyโ€™re fucking things up.

LostInStatic ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 06:53:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Leo_TheLurker ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:11:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

lmao thats sad

fprosk ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 22:46:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Alexa play Avengers Theme

anthonydibiasi ยท 272 points ยท Posted at 03:45:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, we do.

TheAquaman ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 04:14:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

:(

chunkybuttflake ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:12:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't worry I'm sure your movie will be fine

onerustybucket ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 07:52:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, it may or may not be. Best wishes either way.

Vranak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:27:16 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

but why? Wonder Woman II is gonna be rad af thanks to Kristen Wiig

ElegantBiscuit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:06:09 on October 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

imo Wonder Woman was just ok. Best in the DCEU but that is not saying a lot. Same thing wrong with every DC movie which is a blurry CGI shitfest of a final fight where everyone is flying around at supersonic speeds and the whole movie just looks dark as shit, except for when they were on the island which they did not spend too much time on. I also seem to remember way excessive use of slow motion, felt like there was a minimum runtime requirement and its the movie equivalent of making the periods 2 font sizes larger on a paper. The banter and dialog was good at least and the plot was cohesive and flowed well, but Marvel has managed to do that with just about every single one of their 20 movies.

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:53:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The beatings will continue until morale/quality improves.

agenderphobe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:58:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. Yes we do.

TheAquaman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

:(

TyphonTeacup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I want a good justice league movie :(

TransformYaFoo ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 02:50:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie is mediocre and forgettable as well if Iโ€™m being honest

[deleted] ยท -41 points ยท Posted at 03:54:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Steppenwolf was a 10x better villain than Mr. "$1 billion dollars" and Ms. "I was used in experiments and turned into a soldier, give me your life now"

EDIT: I dare anyone who downvoted to attempt to defend the top villains in this movie. How the hell did people just watch Thanos in Infinity War and not be sick to their stomach by the level of quality of the two villains in this movie? They literally had ZEROOOOOOOOOO character development and NO CHARACTER ARCS!! HAVE YOU PEOPLE LOST YOUR MINDS?!?!!?!?

YOU LET MARVEL GET AWAY WITH THIS SHIT WHICH IS WHY THIS KEEPS HAPPENING!!!!

[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 03:30:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie doesn't have a traditional comic book villian. The main plot is attempting to save Janet while evading the law, not stopping a bad guy. Ghost and Goggins are more just obstacles, so are never elevated to outright villians.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:22:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That doesn't excuse how bad they were as characters.

[deleted] ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 16:59:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I disagree they were bad characters. Goggins' character is just a goon, which was all the story needed. Ghost is a tragic villian. Comparing them to Thanos in IW is just silly. This movie is an action-comedy with much lower stakes.

[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:33:43 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mate... he literally said "The opening bid for your lab starts at $1 billion dollars."

If that motivation isn't bad, then we should just throw out 2,000 years of learning the art of storytelling, starting with Aristotle's Poetics and ending with Robert McKee's 'Story'.

I dont know if they could have tried to make an objectively worse character.

Let's raise our expectations and demand more of the artists that share their creations with us.

[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:38:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, I was being trolled. Didn't catch that. Funny guy.

Vranak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:41:11 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

what are you talking about? the man digs crocodile suits, and who's gonna pay for that? the man likes his cash, okay?

Vranak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:39:59 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

you're only projecting how you feel about yourself

Daxx46 ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 11:44:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"I'm evil for the sake of being evil. How unique"

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:18:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently that's just A-okay to people nowadays.

Vranak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:05 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

matches their nihilistic angsty teenaged worldview

underco5erpope ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 17:56:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Steppenwolf sucked complete ass though?

[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 23:10:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why? Because he had terrible/generic motivations, no character arc, no character development.

Ghost and Walter Goggins' villains were even worse in every one of those departments.

underco5erpope ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:20:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe I could see that argument with Walton Goggins but if you try to say that with Ghost Iโ€™m to believe youโ€™re clearly biased against an objective truth

[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 01:19:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Stop me when I'm wrong .

We learn about her overused 'abducted as a child and experimented on' back story and that the motivation for her actions is that she wants to physically heal herself.

She then goes on to stay as the same character for two hours, never changing who she is at any point.

No development, generic backstory, incredibly simplistic motivations = terrible character.

underco5erpope ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:20:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The acting is great, she does a great job at portraying a character that is confused, conflicted, and scared. Also a lot of the character arc is implied through backstory in an endearing way. She is also much more original than โ€œI want to conquer the worldโ€

Iโ€™m starting to think you didnโ€™t even see the movie

[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:44:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She starts confused, conflicted, and scared and she ends that way. She is the same character from beginning to end. That proves she has zero character development which is the entire point of making a character. They start one way and make choices that change them.

This is storytelling 101 and this movie just ignores that for its villains and therefore completely fails in that department.

Vranak ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:45:57 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

my god you really are dumb aren't you!

NewYearDodo ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:13:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And how is Steppenwolf a better villian?

I would say he is even worse, he has no motivation at all, his character development consist of long winded speeches about why humanity sucks, and he accomplished nothing throughout the movie. He is just their to beat the Justice League so Superman can come in and save the day.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:36:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Perfect. Ghost, Goggins, and Steppenwolf are all terrible characters with terrible motivations and no arcs or development.

The difference is, DC got slated for their terrible villain and Marvel's is received with the comments you see on this thread, ranging from "I loved Ghost" to "Goggins was alright."

NewYearDodo ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:07:48 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But you said earlier that Steppenwolf was ten times better.

Also Marvel was critiqued on their villians. The difference is that they have largely fixed their villian problem, Ego, Vulture, Thanos, and Killmomger are all great villians with clearly defined motives and ideas. Ghost too for that matter since she actually had clear motives unlike Steppenwolf.

It also doesn't help that Justice League wasn't a good movie to begin further amplifying the villian issue.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghosts motivation was a generic backstory and curing herself. Does that pass as acceptable nowadays with studios that can hire any writer in the world?

You guys need to be way more harsh on Marvel, they can do much much better than this.

NewYearDodo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:22:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Again how was Steppenwolf ten times better in this regard?

Vranak ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:44:28 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

no bro, you're just an idiot here. That much is clear to everyone here. Just look at how many downvotes you have accrued. It's massive. Your churlish combative attitude is a gaping black hole sucking everything in.

Vranak ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:42:48 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

you are one sad and deluded little man, I have to be completely honest with you.

Vranak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:39:22 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

you got like, a major chip on your shoulder bro

bad_buoys ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 06:16:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really liked Ghost. Awesome suit, cool powers, and her struggle to stay alive was a lot more relatable to me than world conquest or mass genocide. The post-credits scene made it seem like she's still in close contact with the Pyms, hopefully she returns in a later film!

Along the same lines, I like how personal the stakes were in this movie. The "villains" weren't trying to destroy the world or anything, they were trying to save Ava's life. The "good guys" weren't trying to save the world, they were trying to save Janet. Both sides were trying to save someone, which made the conflict very interesting to me!

Javv_ ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:14:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like how they threw me for a loop, when it is revealed that Dr. Bill was working with Ghost I was expecting the "MUAHAHA It was me all along, and I'm going to become a millionare and destroy you"

hey_sergio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:20:07 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost = the Screenslaver

LavastormSW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:53 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Except for that one dude who was just trying to steal the tech and sell it for his own gain. Fuck that guy.

whiskeybill ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 15:41:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My favorite joke was when Hank Pym said that Paul Rudd entangled with his wife when he was in the quantum realm and he immediately responded "No Hank, I would never do that to you I respect you too much." I feel like it slipped past most of my theater but I was dying.

Sisiwakanamaru ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 16:16:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
WordofGabb ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:53:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit that movie had a lot of recognizable actors in it!

Worthyness ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:55:16 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott has a lot of those. When Hope was saying something about the hide and seek cabinet, Scott just says "I don't think you fully grasped the concept of the game"

DangerousG ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 18:48:49 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Finding out it was Langston Fishburne as young Bill Foster and not a de-aged Lawrence has me freaking out way more than I should be

[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 19:21:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Langston Fishburne

WHAT?!

GODDAMN! AND I THOUGHT IT WAS THEIR DE-AGING TECH!

REALITY IS BROKEN NOW

gamesrgreat ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:35:57 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn... no wonder his cheekbones looked slightly different...holy fuck

filip289 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:21:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was about to post this. I was sure that was just de-aged Laurence and then when i saw a different name i ve immediately googled who the heck is Langston.

Ghidoran ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:59:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, really? Damn.

dbadefense1990 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:03:49 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was picturing a young Foster being how Lawrence Fishburne looked like circa-Boyz โ€˜N The Hood.

pop_rocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:23 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was thinking Laurence Fishburne circa Whatโ€™s love got to do with it? I thought he was going to slap the quantum out that kid.

Skywalkling ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:55:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that is crazy, although I've got to assume they still touched him up with a bit of CG.

treathugger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:45 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dax Griffin played young Hank, Hayley Lovitt played young Janet.

I'm sure it was just like how they put Chris Evans face on that skinny guy's body in TFA.

[deleted] ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 06:04:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Michelle Pfieffer went from white gold to platinum. That womanโ€™s aging enviably

thefadednight ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:18:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Then to dust.

StepAsideWormtail ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 03:14:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When Rudd's suit was malfunctioning and he became the size of a weird 6 year old with that oversized blue jacket- so funny.

AlvinItchyCock ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:35:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was thr only person cracking up at that whole scene in my theater. The visual was hilarious. Some people have weird aense of humor.

dztruthseek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:07 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't laugh but I smiled. It was still entertaining.

gtsgunner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:07:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kept thinking of deadpool where ryan renolds is growing his legs back is just walking around with baby feet so he's like 3 feet tall.

mikeweasy ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

HAHAHAHAHAH

Draaxus ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 05:30:53 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Me before the post credits scene: Wow what a surprisingly happy ending

Me after: Perfectly balanced.

Exodus111 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:10:18 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As all things should be.

ToonElectrocrash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:54 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
thebigautismo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:25:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oof

Mikaotic25 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:04:33 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not perfectly balanced when three out of the four died :(

CheapAsRamenNoodles ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 02:15:13 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Two great under underappreciated lines:

โ€œIโ€™m not sure you understand the jist of the game.โ€ โ€œDo you just put quantum in front of everything?โ€

Antrikshy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:58:24 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What was the context of the first one?

CheapAsRamenNoodles ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:00:38 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When Hope said I always hid in the wardrobe (for the hide and seek game).

Antrikshy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:41:05 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh right, that was hilarious.

ReasonablyBadass ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 18:26:24 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Most of what I want to say has already been said.

Loved, loved, loved the fact that they saved Ava.

The only dislike: woman survives for 30 years on her own, reappears with make up and plucked eyebrows.

tragicroyal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:09:08 on August 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was jarred out of my suspension of belief when thinking about practical things a woman is trapped in the quantum realm for 30 years has to contend with, no food, water, bathing facilities or sanitation, never mind medical assistance.

Surely a Castaway-esque dentistry operation or some other minor thing like an ingrown toenail would need to be dealt with?

Squeezycakes17 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:32:38 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

as Scott Laing himself noticed, if you put 'Quantum' in a sentence, anything goes...

tragicroyal ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:26:33 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Quantum toothpaste and quark tampons

Optimal_Funk ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:54 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why did you love the fact they saved her? Straight up happy to kill a bunch of people to save herself, doesn't seem like an excellent person to keep around.

ReasonablyBadass ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:49:58 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but so did Hawkeye and Widow. And Cap at least risked the lives of lots of people for Bucky.

She was a) brainwashed by Shield as a kid to be a killer and b) in constant pain and fear of death. I think those two factors excuse a lot.

Saving and reforming the villain is just a more wholesome, human outcome.

Optimal_Funk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:10:11 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hawkeye and Widow are hands down two of the most pointless characters in the MCU, which is irrelevant in this conversation. I do think however that if they were introduced as villains the turn would have caused some controversy. The second point pretty much sums up why she would make a terrible superhero, i feel like being self-serving is kind of the opposite of the fundamental ideology, and the fact you bring up Captain America shows you know that isn't the way he should act.

ReasonablyBadass ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:13:19 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who says she should be a superhero? "Civilian who isn't in constant agony" probably sounds pretty good to her.

mylermaker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:39:36 on September 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's a group of "reformed" super villains called the Thunderbolts in the comics. If they ever do a film, she'd be a nice addition (along with Zemo, who leads the first iteration of the team in the comics).

Optimal_Funk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:18:29 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, judging by them going to get more quantum energy it is safe to say she hasn't been imprisoned for her crimes. "Civilian who gets repercussions for her selfish criminality" seems far more appropriate.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:47:47 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If I had been in constant pain my entire life, and all I had to do to make it stop was to kill one woman, I'd seriously consider it, too, especially since this particular woman happens to be the wife of the man that I've been told is responsible for my current condition.

xenorous ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:02:40 on August 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not to mention it was "might kill her"

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:44:53 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hawkeye and Widow are hands down two of the most pointless characters in the MCU

What?! They're both badasses. They got sucked in to deal with threats that are beyond their usual paygrade, but they're still awesome.

DrBimboo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:15 on August 31, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hawkeye and Widow are hands down two of the most pointless characters in the MCU

You might wanna watch Avengers again and pay attention to their time in the helicarrier.

Black widows interrogation skills and Hawkeye infiltrating and heavily disupting the whole of the Avengers

(granted they were no team at that point) with a small team are far from pointless.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:50:28 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Rimvee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:37:56 on August 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For the record, she said she assassinated people for SHIELD (so likely for HYDRA).

SpookingtonZ ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 02:04:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Things about the post credits scene

Janet mentioned a time warp in the quantum realm, thatโ€™s definitely gonna be important for Avengers 4. Maybe Scottโ€™ll try to convince the old Avengers that something fucked is gonna happen.

The second post credits scene with the emergency broadcast was hella spooky, and super cool. I kinda wish that credits scene was just the emergency broadcast, but thatโ€™d be hella sad and creepy as hell.

TreyWriter ยท 106 points ยท Posted at 02:18:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And then Scott will show up in Tonyโ€™s house and be all like, โ€œAm I too soon? Iโ€™m too soon.โ€

FuckWithDurian ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 02:56:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Loki!,He's the key!'

johnlockerr ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:27:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Luis! Heโ€™s the key!

blowholeburns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:54 on August 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€˜Heโ€™s a funnier character than weโ€™ve had before....โ€™

mrdinosaur ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:50:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey this was from Batman vs. Superman right? Did this ever come back? Was this explained?

TreyWriter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:13:28 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was not. Presumably it was foreshadowing for Justice League Part II, but after the reception to BvS, WB decided to just make one Justice League movie. But they left the foreshadowing in.

Krimsinx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, since that was all building up to Darkseid vs Justice League, not sure what their game plan is with that one anymore unless they try to to fuck around and do a reboot or something.

Nite_2359 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:53 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Im hoping if they do a proper teaser for Avengers 4, its just a state of emergency broadcast.

Thelawman321 ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 01:53:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How will Ant Man play into the events from Infinity War/ Thanosโ€™ snap while stuck in the Quantum Realm?

TammersHammers ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 02:51:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They mentioned a time vortex. He was also able to come back from the Quantum Realm on his own in the first movie - although that was an older suit. I am very excited to see where they go from here!

Swisskisses ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:41:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But do you think that since he went through a portal the shrinking down is a little different?

mikefightmaster ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:55:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's a time vortex down there... just saying...

meepbo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:59:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Time vortex

Steven8811 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is it possible the soul stone and the quantum realm have some kind of link? I heard this brought up after infinity war and Iโ€™m assuming it could be possible. How else is Scott going to be able to play a role in the snap event?

Shtogus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Someone said it above, he was able to get himself out of the quantum realm in the first one

thesirenlady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There has been some speculation based on set photos

shadinski ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 05:38:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My heart rate just shot right up as soon as that post credits scene started

I fucking KNEW they were gonna do it I JUST KNEW IT

BUT ALL 3 OF THEM???

Apollo416 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:52:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I 100% knew what was coming and it still floored me - after that whole movie, having just seen them there, Janet just got back, hearing the radio go out... then the piles being blown away

Scott missed it by less than a minute - kinda wonder if being in the QR saved him, except heโ€™s trapped now

randomclock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:43 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just watched it earlier. It's been a while since I saw the first Ant-Man but didn't he return on his own in the first movie? Maybe he will be able to again.

mardfet ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 17:17:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œDude can I PLEASE have an altoidโ€

โ€œNO CHARLIE IF YOU WANTED A GODDAMN ALTOID YOU SHOULDVE BOUGHT THEM BACK AT THE HAMBURGER STOREโ€

arghnard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:31:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They were in a similar scenario, too lol

Papatheodorou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Are you wheezing?

He's wheezing!

EmptyItOut ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 05:53:21 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just saw it!

As someone who grew up with a step dad and is really close with both my step dad and my real dad, I love how they portray the stepdad in the Ant Man movies. He's such a nice dude, and I'm glad he's not an evil obstacles for Scott to overcome.

ramonycajones ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:11:28 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked that his character changed so much between movies. They didn't force him into the one character role, they had him play a new role in this one that was just nice. I mean, he was also a good guy in the first movie, but it's nice that he had no conflict in this movie and got to just be a positive part of the comedy.

seeingeyegod ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:25:28 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah the maze thing in the beginning was so cute, little girl is a great actress

Stefferdiddle ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:20:10 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe not so nice in the first movie. Which made his hero worship and constant hugging of Scott so funny in this one since it was only at the end of Ant Man that he had the change of heart. Bobby Canavale just goes all in on his characters.

nsm1 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 01:55:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"You got Pez'd!"

Or was it "You've been Pez'd!"

arghnard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:15:25 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Reminds me of Rudd's "Ah, I got lazed!" line in the beginning.

Zucc2020 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes

Pundry ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 05:38:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As soon as the mid-credits scene started my heart rate picked up to last-thirty-minutes-of-Infinity-War speed.

savcloud ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:48:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Same! I literally just left the theatre. Did you notice the vage purple face (prob thanos) show up when Scott collects the healing particles?

Pundry ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:05:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No I didn't! Damn, I'm kinda sad I didn't notice but at the same time I was sunken in my seat with my hands over my eyes so that may be why I didn't

yanggmd ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 01:00:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't want a trailer for a third Ant-Man, just Michael Pena catching us up on what has happened so far

lionnyc ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 01:38:46 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd love to watch 90 minutes of Michael Pena just recapping the entire MCU timeline while under true serum doing all the voices for the characters.

HoboWithAGun ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:12:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's not truth serum!

CrashB111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:26 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just have it as an "extended edition" part of Infinity War 2.

The Story So Far...

jim25y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude...that'd be amazing

FSchmertz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:25:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The more silly tangents in the explanation, the better!

MistakenLoner ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:15:29 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Previously on Infinity War...

cue Michael Pena explaining the events of Infinity Wars and a few of the moments 
leading up to IW. 
OddEye ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:33:23 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely got a little giddy inside when his narration music started.

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That would be so perfect.

JoeyHollywood ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 03:46:49 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

With each passing movie, I am more and more impressed by how they can make old actors look young again. Young Janet and Hank looked pretty amazing.

Merlin_Shaw ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:52:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also younger Laurence Fishburne was pretty amazing!!

GengarTx ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:42:44 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget young michael pena! All that curly hair

Nite_2359 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:39:48 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Get ready for Caprain Marvel when we have a young Samuel L Jackson and Clark Gregg throughout the entire movie.

Swisskisses ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:53:52 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Money my friend. A lot of fucking money.

Thereโ€™s a company thatโ€™s thatโ€™s all the specialize in and these marvel movies have the bank to pay them

karpinskijd ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 05:19:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie is definitely on top 10 MCU movies for me. Sure, the plot felt a little simple, and the stakes weren't high, but there wasn't a single moment where I wasn't enjoying myself. This movie is so good. SO good.

The second post-credits scene is for laughs, but can I just say that there is no sound on this planet that terrifies me more than the emergency broadcast alarm? I was way too tense when that scene started

badRLplayer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:21:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. No need to stay for the second one really. But the mid one was awesome.

johndoe42 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:51:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I disagree, seeing that Emergency Broadcast on the TV even just for a split second sent chills down my spine as I imagined how it would feel to be in that world.

After IW I kept think how insane humanity would have gone after that, including government institutions and people who have to keep working despite the conditions. People in hospitals, utilities and energy (Bill disappears and he's the only guy who knows how to keep the generator up and running and the like), and then the poor people who are in charge of putting these emergency broadcasts.

And I see that for a few seconds and I'm like "damn, at least humanity was able to communicate something to all of the scared and confused citizens."

I thought it was a perfect tease of the immediate post IW world, if we ever see more of it.

PsamathosPsamathides ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 04:52:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie's like a weird sleeper hit in my mind. No huge moments but the whole thing felt cohesive and fun. I guess I loved it. The lowered stakes were refreshing too.

EDIT: Also thought the final end credits scene was really cool. Something about the Emergency Broadcasting System is so freakin eerie.

[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 14:13:20 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They did a great job with the de-aging CGI, once again.

Jezamiah ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:08:14 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The technology is scaringly improving with each film. I couldn't even tell there was anything wrong with the young Mike Douglas.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:20:01 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When I watched the first movie with my mother, she actually said "Hang on, when was this movie made?" when she saw the CG Michael Douglas. Even Hayley Atwell looked convincingly aged.

kalsikam ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:08:06 on October 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seems like a different Fishburne (mayne his son?) Played young Fishburne

WebbieVanderquack ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:02:05 on October 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey, you're right. It was his son.

kalsikam ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:22:25 on October 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The resemblance was spot on

musashi_88 ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 02:02:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fucking Thanos.

_Discordian ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 02:15:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
mikeweasy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:55:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"I Hope they remember you"

musashi_88 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:40:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You monster

StagOfBaratheon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:44:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank Thanos for giving us shenanigans to look forward to next year!

NinjaGuy206 ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 04:44:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did anyone else get any Danny Phantom vibes from the movie?

Ghost was sort of like Danny Phantom (ironic eh?). Her parent(s?) was experimenting with a different zone/dimension and in the process she was affected down to her cells. "His molecules got rearranged" is a line in the theme song which is quite accurate to Ava. She even has one of Danny's main abilities, being able to become intangible.

Also the quantum tunnel was the ghost zone portal and the pod ship that Hank and Hope made was very reminiscent of the Specter Speeder, a vehicle to traverse the ghost zone, in this case the quantum zone.

Scott even used the Fenton Thermos (used in the show to capture ghosts) to collect the quantum energy at the end!

2th ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:00:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just needed an Inviso Bill joke.

nousername215 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:32:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You could say that, too keep her phasing under control when she wasn't in the suit, they had to...

box Ghost?

Leo_TheLurker ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:27:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Someone get Butch Hartman on the phone quick!

jad4400 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So if she starts carrying her stolen goods in a box, can we call her the Box Ghost? Beware!

redberyl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:23 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For me, the vibes were more like the twins from the matrix.

Dequat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:46:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Holy Shit.

MahtDaymen ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 04:15:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Rewatching infinity war is going to be a lot weirder now that I know somewhere amidst all the chaos and people watching their loved ones turn to ash, there's a giant ant playing the shit out of a electric drumset.

drzigzag ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 05:47:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not counting Infinity War because it's not over. Is this the first MCU movie that didn't end with the villain being killed? Ghost and the Merc weren't killed, everybody was saved, and Scott was released from house arrest. Pretty happy ending....until.....you know what....

Bulbasaur2015 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 06:05:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nice catch, but Zemo lives in civil war, and Loki in Thor 1

Gr0bs ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:06:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Abomination is taken away at the end of Hulk, Red Skull zapped into space, Dormammu retreats back to the dark dimension, Mordo is out whacking magic users...

TheRooster27 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:06:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Vulture goes to prison.

69party69 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:34:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man what happened to Abom in the end? Never saw Edward Norton's TIH.

Did SHIELD take him?

Xalara ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:55:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, it's brought up in Agents of SHIELD that Abomination is in some prison.

CIearMind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:12:34 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, Coulson threatened Ward, I think, to reassign him there?

Stabfist_Frankenkill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:45 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And there's WAY more survivors if you count every villain and not just main villains. Batroc, the Grandmaster, Justin Hammer, Trevor Slattery, Mac Gargan, Phineas Mason, Herman Schultz, the Leader, Crossbones (in his first appearance), Klaue (in his first appearance), Ayesha, Nebula, Bucky, I'm sure there's more.

drzigzag ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:05:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Awww Fuck... I forgot about that guy

Barbedocious ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:49:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Spider-Man homecoming. Vulture survives.

MX64 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:51:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is this the first MCU movie that didn't end with the villain being killed?

[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 05:57:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

vulture is pretty much dead in the inside

business of many years gone, estranged from daughter and wife,etc

KingTyranitar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:38:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But not dead.

DOOM_feat_DOOM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:39:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ok but we're not talking in metaphors here

gamemaniax ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:05:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seeing how they keep harvesting the quantum energy to heal Ghost, most likely they are gonna have her in the next Avengers.

UnknownFiddler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:49:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Vulture in spiderman homecoming, and Loki survived the first Avengers Movie. Also Red Skull is still alive in Infinity War so I guess he technically survived captain America. Probably a few other minor villains that I can't think of.

drzigzag ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:50:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loki is kinda a variable

Dobokdude ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:03:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn Disney, my heartstrings aren't elastic you know!

JTNJ32 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:56:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe not the villain, but Ghost growing the lab right by the pier... I'm sure a few people died from that.

Kapkar123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
  • Abomination/The leder(Hulk)
  • Justin hammer(Iron Man 2)
  • Loki(Thor 1/Avengers)
  • Red skull(Cap 1)
  • Zemo(Cap 3)
  • Vulture/Shocker(Spidey)
Wnir ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 07:22:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Possibly the best depiction of tardigrades on the big screen to date? Love the little critters and I was so psyched to see them up close and personal.

Askray184 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:01:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What if Yellowjacket comes back with a giant Tardigrade army?!!?

NinjaGuy206 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:41:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is that what they are called? In my head I labeled them as "space cows".

Wnir ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:57:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A common name for them is water bears, so thatโ€™s not far off all things considered.

Stabfist_Frankenkill ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:53:38 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Big screen, sure. But if you want some good tardigrade action, check out Star Trek: Discovery.

I_am_the_one123 ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 04:07:32 on August 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

the first end credit scene is the best end credit scene there is imo

Squeezycakes17 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:29:17 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

jawdropping stuff

cans4812 ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 02:28:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Asian Jim is the bomb. Such a good addition to the cast.

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:33:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That wasnโ€™t Jim. Jimโ€™s not Asian

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 07:55:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hats off to you for not seeing race

xitzengyigglz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:59:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I want John Krasinski to be the agent investigating Scott next movie with zero explanation.

Thegrandmavis ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 01:57:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Ant-Man and the Wasp will return....?

arghnard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm Ron Burgundy..?

jdclaborn1018 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 04:39:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œIโ€™m lying I do feel something... it is truth serum!โ€

Javv_ ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 06:10:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I dont know whos writing the villians on phase 3, but damn, theyre doing a good job.

Someguy2020 ยท -39 points ยท Posted at 06:25:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Really? Between this and killmonger Iโ€™ve been very disappointed in marvel villains lately.

I liked the character, but in both these movies the villain isnโ€™t that evil. In both a conversation would have solved it.

Actually Thanos had lame motivations too, come to think of it.

And I just didnโ€™t really care for the villain in guardians two all that much.

Can we have the โ€œshallowโ€ villains back for a bit?

coltsmetsfan614 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:05:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In both a conversation would have solved it.

How would a conversation have solved anything, in either movie?

Someguy2020 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 07:08:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey hank, this woman came to me. Sheโ€™s living in constant agony and slowly dying and itโ€™s directly related to your research. Can you help?

Killmonger would have been welcomed if he had returned peacefully.

Of course Killmonger was a CIA plant sent to obtain wakandan technology.

coltsmetsfan614 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:12:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey hank, this woman came to me. Sheโ€™s living in constant agony and slowly dying and itโ€™s directly related to your research. Can you help?

So... just ignore the fact that Hank and Bill had a nasty falling out years ago and also that Ghost wanted to kill Hank? Yeah, I'm sure a conversation would've smoothed all that over. Even if Hank had said yes, why would they have trusted him to stay true to his word?

Killmonger would have been welcomed if he had returned peacefully.

Killmonger didn't just want to be welcomed. He wanted to be king, over T'challa. That's not an issue that a conversation can solve.

SomeRandomProducer ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:31:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Killmonger didnโ€™t want to return peacefully though. He wanted to take over. He felt like Wakanda betrayed him, why would he return peacefully?

I do find it weird how Bill never spoke to Hank about the girl when it happened. If it happened when they were on the run then I could understand.

Armouredpoet ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:21:12 on July 27, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not only that but the Wakandans would not have taken him in, they didnโ€™t believe he was truly one of them. The only way he got in was by bringing the head of one of their Number One Most Wanted.

Javv_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:56:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not all stories need a threat to mankind or the universe to make a villian, It would cheapen the threat. For an example look at the DCU, every movie has an ultra evil villian that wants to destroy the world, and it becomes stale movie after movie.

Thiswillbetempacc ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:31:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How did you find Thanos's motivations lame?

verisimiliattitude ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:01:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, how is Killmonger not the MCU's best villain? The fact that his and Ghost's motives are so tangible and even attainable make them even scarier in how relatable their goals are, just with their own unpredictability of personality.

Both had their childhoods torn from them, turned into killing machines, so in that sense, maybe the repetition makes Ghost feel less original (or even Erik considering Gamora and Nebula have a similar backstory with Thanos).

Someguy2020 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 07:17:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Killmonger was really fucking lame as a villain.

Mostly cause he just sort of followed the rules and tโ€™challa overthrew the legitimate king of Wakanda.

Anyway, as with Killmonger, ghost is a good character but the movie just doesnโ€™t really do that much.

xitzengyigglz ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 04:22:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant Man and the Wasp Will Return (?)

Fuck you guys quit playing with my emotions Marvel!

DH2007able ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:31:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man, I knew something like that was gonna happen but I was still taken by surprise, and it seemed like everyone in the theater I was in were surprised too since there were lots of gasps. That question mark at the end also got a small gasp from me.

itshukokay ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 01:04:26 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As someone who grew up in an Eastern Europe family, that Baba Jaga shit is real. I got a big laugh, but then I had the horror flashbacks.

bjacks12 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:16:24 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I heard it once killed two men in a bar with a fookin pencil

HelluvaDeke ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:12:47 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Am polish. Can confirm.

Orto_Dogge ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:00:46 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Am Russian. Can't.

In most folklore and fairytales she's more of a wise woman or a witch than a ghost or a monster. I guess a lot of people just mistake her for Russian boogeyman "babaika", who sounds similar in English (and totally different in Russian).

HelluvaDeke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:20 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In polish, it was always a witch lol

pyth0ns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:06:45 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha - we know it as Baba Roga

AllOutMovies ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 03:22:47 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That last exchange between Randall Park and Paul Rudd was too good. Hope Park can be a recurring MCU character.

freakincampers ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:27:07 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He did a great job as Jim from the Office.

-Toasties- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:42:08 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
haydenbleaty ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:11:05 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
useless_corn ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 11:51:56 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love how Janet was somehow able to apply make up while being in the quantum realm for 30 years

ideniedyou28 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 13:02:42 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's what she meant by evolved obvs

PM_If_Gay ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 21:24:57 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone else thought Ava/Ghost looked awfully a lot like a Hunter from Destiny? Especially the fades etc.

ellisl3 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:49:03 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For sure. Wearing mask of the third man with the chatterwhite shader. Man I miss that game.

xenorous ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:45:49 on August 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Its sad they never made a sequel /s

Za_AMERICAN_Man ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:59:11 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Only thing I could think about whenever she was onscreen.

ramonycajones ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:41 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought the actress looked just like Viserys Targaryen.

Shadowfax12642 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:47:05 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

...? What

sirin3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:29 on October 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought she looks like Dutch from Killjoys

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:03 on July 30, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She does have the same sort of lips, yeah.

seeingeyegod ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 17:23:43 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So is it supposed to be understood that one does not need to eat for 30 years in the Quantum realm? Or can you just eat quantum things... and also go to the quantum hair dresser and get organic quantum Kale and infusing quantum shampoo?

dinglecreary10 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 20:03:26 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do you guys just put "Quantum" in front of everything?

Megavore97 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:41:25 on July 28, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shit he's on to us

QUANTUM FBI, OPEN UP

Lockraemono ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:14:44 on July 27, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I figured it was implied because when he became gigantic, just a few minutes sapped his energy. So becoming so tiny you may well not even exist, you aren't expending hardly any energy at all. That's what I assumed, anyway, who knows. Seems like you wouldn't age in that scenario, though.

Nolat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:51:39 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought him becoming gigantic was the script writers actuall following the square cube law.

JacobBlah ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 22:26:12 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pym Particles...I ain't gotta explain shit.

mertje333 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:16:53 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget the quantum realm has healing properties. You reckon people are sort of immortal in there?

seeingeyegod ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:45:24 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I originally thought the quantum realm was going to mean just a bunch of fucked up empty shit and you floating around aimlessly, but it looks like in the MCU it may be just a different universe inhabited by other civilizations?

MauriceEscargot ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:02:39 on August 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

At one point I had the idea that maybe the quantum realm might be somehow connected to the inside of the Soul Stone and maybe even we'd see some of the dead Avengers in there along with Janet. Of course, I later realized the timelines didn't align.

But I still think Ant-Man is going to be crucial in Avengers 4, either by some connections to the Infinity Stones or some time travel stuff (either Hank or Janet mentioned something time-related in the post-credit scene).

seeingeyegod ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:05:17 on August 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

hope so. Maybe he can get inside Thanos and then explode him by growing back to full size while still inside him. Woah wait, maybe the entire thing could hinge on the fact that Ant Man gets stuck in the quantum realm because of the snap, and that was one of the things Dr. Strange saw that needed to happen.

mertje333 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:59 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't say there are civilisations there... on his way shrinking down pym encountered single celled organisms but when he shrunk further to quantum realm level there was absolutely nothing

Arahmitz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:29:47 on August 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I believe Tamdigrades arent one cell :P

mertje333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:49 on August 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah well, just an uneducated guess :)

Arahmitz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:57:37 on August 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They are like 0,5 mm big BTW

seeingeyegod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:56 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

well there was certainly more than nothing when he picked up his wife. They will probably retcon it

Str8UpWilin ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:19:02 on July 27, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is the only complaint I had with the movie. She didn't even go insane being stuck there for 30 years with nothing to do. Really bizarre how they just gloss over that.

funkyb ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:59:17 on August 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Being that she is a genius level scientist I figured she'd just been working on ways to get out most of the time. You've also got some time for her to lose her mind then regain it, and she said time works differently there so they could always hand wave it with that.

Optimal_Funk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:29:43 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Time works differently there but she aged at exactly the same rate as her husband.

funkyb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:09:20 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

seeingeyegod ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:18:04 on July 27, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah I can only guess she actually had lots to do, maybe there are other beings there, whole societies or something. I've never read the comics so I have no idea but seems like something they would do.

Soviet_Slavkip ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:33:55 on July 27, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

While marvel may use "quantum realm mechanics" as an excuse/explanation for any plot errors or issues, it could be possible that while in the quantum realm she gained 'energy' or 'power' from the air or materials around her. We saw her heal Ghost with what is potential power she gained, then in the after credit scene Ant-man returns to the quantum realm to get 'healing power'(or however they described the material) for Ghost, this could be the substance that preserved or fed her for all that time. Or maybe there could be quantum-cows and quantum-waterstreams for her to live off of, maybe even quantum-disneyland to keep her entertained ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

Tonkarz ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:40:14 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not to mention the apparent utility of quantum foam in lipstick and eyeliner.

Really though the quantum realm probably has all kinds of interesting things going on that could be used creatively.

SparksMKII ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 13:55:22 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's finally out here!

I loved the first Ant Man movie but this one felt pretty underwhelming compared to that, it's still an enjoyable watch but nowhere near the quality of the first one for me.

Not all of the jokes landed, the shrinking/growing stuff also felt a lot less creative then the first movie and there were too many subplots going on at the same time like:

  1. The house arrest
  2. FBI guy
  3. Ghost
  4. Getting the original Wasp back

I wished they ditched the house arrest plot (eh she's been stuck there for 30 years, couldn't you just wait for 2 more days when Scott's house arrest is over?) and the FBI guy plot (didn't really feel like it added much to the movie for me).

And use that time instead to flesh out more of Ghost's past and Hank's fallout with Bill + more of the original Wasp storyline. The best thing about this movie that elevates this movie to the "good but not great category" is the chemistry between all the actors.

szeto326 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:24:18 on August 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thereโ€™s also the subplot with the guy whoโ€™s trying to steal their tech.

Surfer949 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:21 on October 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah who and why the hell was he there for? His character was really out of place.

TantumErgo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:32:18 on August 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the multiple plots was because they were trying to go for something of a heist movie feel. Not necessarily successfully, but I think it was supposed to feel crowded.

orcinovein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:38 on July 31, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I agree with this completely.

Cybernetic343 ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 15:23:36 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was much better than I thought it was going to be. Definitely better than the first one.

My biggest problem though was that they didn't show Ghosts suffering and her cure at the end was very deus ex machina. She get talking about being in pain but we never see any of it.

Luis's truth serum scene stole the show and that first credit scene was fantastic.

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:54:44 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Cybernetic343 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:19:31 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe not dues ex machina but it was certainly very underwhelming. The choice was either save the mom or save ghost but the movie had its cake and ate it too. Meaning that the whole thing would have been resolved if ghost just asked for help right from the start.

vreddy92 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:05:03 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sure, but thatโ€™s the point. She grew up hating Pym and blaming him for her parentsโ€™ death. Not the person sheโ€™d be seeking help from.

TangerineSkies ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 18:19:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really resonate with the part where Pena is telling his story and everyone is talking like him. Thats exactly like how my family tells stories. You just got to ride it out.

SawRub ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 15:27:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Adding Randall Park to an already great supporting cast was a great choice. Every scene he was in was amazing.

sweetcuppingcakes ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:36:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was kinda hoping he and Scott would really go have dinner : (

wildkarde07 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Now I'm hoping that is the new shawarma scene in A4! LOL

-ImJustSaiyan- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:39 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It would be amazing if we got that scene with the entire main MCU cast!

-ImJustSaiyan- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:28 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That should've been the mid-credits scene, with the Pym family getting snapped being the post credits scene.

SincereJester ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 15:13:20 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved how this film had low stakes. We didn't need yet another end of the world scenario. It was a necessary palate cleanser after Infinity War.

gohomepat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:21 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was nice wasnโ€™t it? I kept thinking, โ€œGhost isnโ€™t THAT bad, she just wants the pain to go away.โ€ And even Walton Gogginsโ€™ character wasnโ€™t that bad of a dude except for when he threatened to kill Michael Pena. If anything, I thought that Janet would turn out to be the big bad in the final act.

jonsnowme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:13:52 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed. I remember during the movie I was thinking about how refreshing it was that Ghost wasn't out to take over/destroy the world and that her motivation and goals were different.

TheLast_Centurion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:07:16 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't even realized this, but you are right. Although I found it a bit annoying to have this artificial conflict just for the sake of conflict with just too much conflict for such a story. Could be better without it and just adventuring through quantum realms :/

felixrios ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:17 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

how can you suggest that a narrative just have no conflict

TheLast_Centurion ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:09:16 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But it had conflict(s).

KageStar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:11:33 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's saying how would you make a movie of this nature without conflicts?

TheLast_Centurion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:09 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, okay, thank you.

Yeah, that's the problem it is trapped inside itself. You need this, because audience expects it, but it did not do any good to the movie and honestly, it would be better without random timers to create tension and then random seller to be hunting down the building and another random phasing enemy who wants to heal itself by random killing the very person they want to rescue from the quantum realm. It is just so, so, so artificial. Might work better if they'd cut down the amount of this people and conflict or at least make it less artificial and more believable, especially with that Ghost girl.

And honestly, it oculd really work well without all of that and be it a rescue mission for the wife. Which now reminds me, that even Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom had similar (or even the same) problem.

Sometimes you just dont need to push the conflict this hard. But as to real solution, I guess I have none, since I don't even know how would people react to this kind of a movie with less actual conflict.

But I still think there was just too much of it and too unnecessary.

KageStar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:35 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with what you said. My initial was they should have just left the Black Market guy in the scene with ghost introduction and not drug him through the rest of the movie and they could have cut down with the FBi stuff too. That cuts out alot of filler conflict and they could have used that time to further development Ghost and brought back Janet earlier in the movie and gave her a little more background.

GalladeAggron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:26:31 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Adventuring through quantum realms seems like an awesome idea for the video games. Hope the next Lego VG has a quantum realms open world.....

vyrusrama ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 18:48:33 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lots of people are saying Scott is going to use the Time Vortex and arrive at the Battle Of New York.

Scott doesn't know there's been a "snap".

so he can't decide to arrive at a pre determined time / location. he just will realize in a while that he's stuck.

he's going to battle it out in the Quantum Realm because he's going to keep thinking about Cassie.

his arrival back in the normal realm will probably be a random time - not a planned, well thought out strategic decision.

he's just going to crash into a scene (to hilarious effect) during IW4.

seeingeyegod ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:24:10 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

oh shit Cassie! :(

Aaumond ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:19:42 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't worry. She won't have to be sad or afraid if she was snapped.

funkyb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:01:31 on August 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Word on the street is an older Cassie is being cast for IW2/Avengers4, so she's probably not snapped.

talkingBS ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:06:52 on August 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

his arrival back in the normal realm will probably be a random time - not a planned, well thought out strategic decision.

A random time like... the 1990s with Captain Marvel?

Tiger951 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 06:14:24 on July 27, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just got back from seeing it. I thought it was pretty good.

But those mid and post credit scenes.... holy shit.

midnight_rebirth ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:02:06 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My god that after credits scene was intense. So expertly well done. That Antโ€™s drumming has got to be almost as good as Neil Peart by now.

Tsuku ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 04:32:09 on August 31, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott being trapped in the Quantum Realm while everyone got Thanos'd is so fucked up. Didnt expect it to be as thrilling as it was. Makes you wonder if theyll use the "Time Vortex" as a way to get him out since Wasp 1 mentions it.

PanamaCharlie ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 23:20:27 on October 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How the fuck are they breathing in the subatomic world? They are smaller than air molecules. What did she eat for 30 years?

I still don't understand how weight works with the PYM particles. I thought they shrink the space between molecules but the weight remains the same. Wouldn't that make the building impossible to move around and what about the hot rod cars?

I don't get ghosts motivation. Just seems like a jealous brat.

blockpro156 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:50:12 on October 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hope said something about how Scott's air wouldn't last long while he was underwater, which implies that they have some amount of air stored within the suit, that they can breathe.

Presumably the suit that was made for the quantum realm has even more air.

That leaves the question of how Janet could breathe for so long, but she said something about adapting and evolution or whatever, so that kinda explains it.

Anyway, is this really what you're worried about? The entire concept of Ant-Man is completely ludicrous, scientifically speaking, that's what suspension of disbelief is for.

As for Ghost's motivation, that's just self preservation, I don't see what is so hard to understand.

OrangeNath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:09 on December 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No matter how much air there is in the suit, Hank didn't even put his helmet on. It still doesn't make any sense

AnatlusNayr ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:56:01 on October 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There wouldn't even be light either. If they become as small as atoms, how can they see photons, and wouldn't that make the atoms inside them smaller than atoms, hence quantum. If they are truly quantum, there wouldn't be any light.

Anyway, the mother also had make-up, after 30 years....

PanamaCharlie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:03:23 on October 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And plastic surgery. Seems legit.

RazeSpear ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:10:55 on November 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't get ghosts motivation. Just seems like a jealous brat.

If I were to push your head underwater, what would you do? As far as Ghost was concerned, Pym had the means to save her life but wouldn't.

As for her outlook, she was used as a weapon against her will for years. Do you know what happens to a kid in real life if you treat them as a tool and have them commit atrocities for your own agenda? It gives them mental health issues.

Bill Foster was the closest thing she had to a real parent since she was a small child, and he was bitter about how things played out between him and and Hank. It makes sense that she wasn't entirely empathetic towards whom she believed had betrayed the only person in the entire world who seemed to care about her.

All this considered, she believed in Foster, and was working under the assumption that their plan wouldn't be lethal.

So let's go down the list:

  • She was frightened for her life.

  • Given her upbringing, we have no reason to believe she thinks like you or I.

  • She was taken under the wing by somebody who let resentment get the better of him.

  • She was not led to believe her actions would be lethal.

Her motives are probably one of the most normal things in the film, which I guess isn't saying too much since it's a sci-fi action comedy, but still.

OrangeNath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:45 on December 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you need to use the word "probably" to describe the villain's motivations, the writing is lazy.

RazeSpear ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:14:41 on December 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, it means that ranking aspects of a film is subjective...

"Her motives are probably one of the most normal things in the film"

How can you tell me without jumping through hoops that that statement has more to do with writing than how we judge the film?

If I say Thanos probably knew what he was doing was wrong, does that knock Infinity War down a few pegs?

Or maybe Harvey Dent probably couldn't live without Rachel in the The Dark Knight? Does that make it a lesser movie due to not having a definite statement?

Bullshit. Leaving things to speculation is realistic.

But anyways, as I was saying, her motives were normal. She wanted to survive. People have done far worse to guarantee their survival.

Go back to reviewing porn man.

LifeOfCray ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:35:09 on November 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

YEAH WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THE MASS?

Sometimes you get the same mass. Sometimes it somehow... shrinks?

mikKiske ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:58:40 on October 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

are you really asking the science behind that?? you have to be really stupid to expect this to have an actual scientific answer.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:27:59 on October 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No need to be a dick, it's a valid question, seeing as how she fucking aged, but didn't have to eat or anything.

odraencoded ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:11:59 on October 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Obviously it's just bullshit, but if you want a bullshit explanation, then it's clearly because when they're downsized their kicks are still strong, which means Pym particles conserve force, and force means energy, which means if you're 1 zillion times smaller than normal, in quantum realm, you still have the same energy stored inside your body as a normal adult, but you spend that energy at a rate 1 zillion times less, so it lasts 1 zillion times more, which is why she didn't need to eat, same thing with oxygen, if she had 3 minutes of oxygen left in normal size, she would have 3 zillion minutes left in quantum size, so it's enough oxygen for 30 years.

LifeOfCray ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:36:45 on November 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, you're an asshole. Grow up kid.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:40:17 on October 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But then she wouldn't age 30 years, she'd only age 3 minutes.

odraencoded ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:21:52 on October 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Her metabolism stays at the same rate, it just the energy required to metabolize is a zillion times smaller.

Q.E.D.

skylerbroman ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 02:10:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thereโ€™s free real estate on that ferry ride.

BattleUpSaber ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 03:02:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Best scene of the movie:

https://youtu.be/K5le9sYdYkM

itaboranius ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:07:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Goshdarnit Paul, why

Bitey_the_Squirrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant mans real sidekick

Gildebeast ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:05:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Dallywack3r ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:36:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT

McWhacker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:24:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Motherfu-

patchyabp ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 08:42:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man that fucking snap. Not the ashing, the emergency signal and just utter silence.

I really hope they spend some time in the world, completely broken, before they set off to fix it. I need my Leftovers fix.

TheRetardStrength ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 02:16:22 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Raise your hand if you were in dread of the snap the entire movie.

delti90 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:43:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For real, they picked a great moment for it.

abnerayag ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:51:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

you mean the worst possible moment (for Scott)

Juppness ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:02:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I honestly thought it was going to happen when Janet reunited with Hope for maximum gut punch.

But the way it went down in the after-credits was great too.

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:27:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't see it coming due to continuity. It was daytime during the snap in Wakanda, but somehow it was daytime on the opposite side of the Earth in San Fransisco too.

thatsonearthdipshit ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:42:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If we use the time zone of Lagos, Nigeria as an example, it could easily be 8am in San Francisco and only 4pm in Wakanda

Seal412 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:33:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My only theory is the snap isn't instantaneous as much as it is a wave. Think of Titan, they all disappear at diff times. In Wakanda people disappeared at diff times. Granted this was probably for the sake of the film so we could see everyone evaporate. But think how much time passes between Bucky and then Spidey.

rudy21SIDER ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:34:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Daytime with Fury too. And I think its more like sunset in Wakanda sunrise in USA

absolutedesignz ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:39:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott in San Fran...say 9am

Wakanda Snap...5pm

Fury NYC....12pm

evillemons ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:51:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is that something people really think of?

Seal412 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:31:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't think they would do it. It was too happy and cheery of a movie, I thought they may just ignore it honestly. I loved how they did it... with Scott trapped in the Quantam realm.

the_chalupacabra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:20:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was so tense being like, "When's it coming?" but it happened at the exact right time. Fuuuck.

mikeweasy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:11:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I had a feeling someone would be snapped in the midcredits scene, not all three of them tho.

Nude-Love ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:00 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't understand how people didn't see it coming. Literally as soon as the they mentioned the Quantum Realm at the start of the film I thought to myself "Oh, he clearly ends the film in the realm and that's how he survives Thanos". Like, it literally couldn't have been more obvious.

naginnarb ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:10:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Papatheodorou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:49 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe the Russo Bros. directed the scene for continuity's sake

schizoid_clown ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 06:44:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Internet says that Thanos' face is in the quantum realm during the mid credits scene. HELP ME FIND A SCREENSHOT

sonic317 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:46:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I, too, would like a screenshot of this. Commenting just in case it appears.

KingTyranitar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And pre ordered

Trizetacannon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:35:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
GoesOff_On_Tangent ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:08:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I saw it, it looked exactly like his face when he was walking on Titan with his fist clenched

Dr_Joshie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:28:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I've been looking for a screenshot all night! BRING ME THANOS!

schizoid_clown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was even tempted to give my card info to one of those sketchy movie sites. It's killing me

BeavMcloud ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I couldn't see Thanos, but the background was similar to Dormammu's face or something similar that could reign over the Quantum Realm.

leegato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Commenting too so I can see this screenshot!!

Nitrosaber ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 18:59:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Randall park was easily the best part of this movie. Really hope they grab dinner together next time we see then both.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:27:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He should bring Pam and Ci-Ci along.

Quiet_CLOVR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:10 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Heโ€™s going to be too busy closing the sale with Krieger-Murphy. Weโ€™re all still hoping heโ€™s got a voicemail from Paul Krieger waiting for him.

htx_evo ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 19:10:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The one thing that threw me off was the 2 hour window to save the mom. How did they get captured, arrested, processed, almost interrogated, break out, get to a spot to bring up the lab, fight, and then find the mom in the literal last seconds. Two hours is not that long!!

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:26:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought that was a bit much too. They should have just been more vague or given more time.

The trip from Muir woods to SF alone would take like an hour

Dragn555 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:29:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like how the crowds in this movie just didn't give a shit.

kelter20 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:23:37 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, theyโ€™ve seen some crazy shit.

[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 01:58:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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AnonymousTrollLloyd ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 02:00:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pym particles bruh.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:07:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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AnonymousTrollLloyd ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:28:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They don't give an explanation, so it was either Pym Particles or the Speed Force.

itaboranius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What is the Speed Force?

douchiesnacks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:31:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's what powers Flash, aka just pure bullshit.

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Speed_Force

itaboranius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

...but this is Marvel :(

delti90 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:45:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Speed force.

rudy21SIDER ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:36:55 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She gets powers; maybe she eats the same stuff Ant-Man is collecting during the snap. Also she can poop anywhere and could use broken wing as a tool.

PunkRockRobot ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:05:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

how the hell did she know how to use a computer so quickly? Did she learn how to code in the quantum verse?

redname325 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:43:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wasp & Janet join the MCU!

SNAP!

itaboranius ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:15:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

EVERYONE IS HERE!

SimonBRUH8217 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:35:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How do I upvote twice

Yuokes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:23:22 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Luis is an assist trophy, and just explains the battles.

DeliciousCrepe ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:44:28 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The use of shrinking and growing in this movie was really creative.

I had so much fun watching this movie.

1337speak ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:51:55 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hello Kitty Pez was downright hilarious

AlvinItchyCock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree. The action coordinators did a great job planning out all of the scenes with shrinking and growing and phasing. Really seemed smooth and nothing was forced.

ParkCurtis ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 06:23:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When Paul Rudd is showing his โ€œconnectionโ€ with Michelle Pfeiffer is some of the best acting Iโ€™ve seen this year. So funny and good.

SanityPills ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:09:03 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's a moment where the two laugh at each other, and I swear it's just the two of them breaking character at how ridiculous the scene/lines were, but it worked too well and was kept in.

eclaiendearment ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agree! One of the moments when he proved that he's an excellent actor.

69party69 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 11:24:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Those tardigrades/waterbears were amazing!

Wiffernubbin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:19:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait. Did they steal an idea from The Adventure Zone?

Radamenenthil ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 23:47:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was that Jim from The Office?

decarvalho7 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:06:15 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Asian Jim

Tricky4279 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:25:43 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah like they said, Jim from The Office.

Radamenenthil ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:59:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey, hats off to you for not seeing race

AWBIGSEXYWITHGLASSES ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 19:36:44 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The truth serum scene with Luis was hilarious.

mlx01 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:06:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's not truth serum.

PaperJournal ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:50:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

(Gasp) It is truth serum...

StrangeSemiticLatin2 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 02:43:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

AVENGE ANT-ONIO BANDERAS

spwf ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 17:11:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Elementary-sized Scott was absolutely hilarious.

โ€œHeya champ! How was school!โ€

carchasemovies ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:27:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"You want a juice box?"

spwf ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:35:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œVery funny...wait, do you really have that?โ€

dbadefense1990 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:08:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The only thing that couldโ€™ve topped it would have been Hope taking kid-sized Scott in her arms as if heโ€™d gotten a boo-boo.

GDDesu ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:54:33 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can't handle another Hotel Transylvania 3 trailer.

Papriku ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:35:27 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel the same way about Mission Impossible, saw that trailer since Black Panther. Just release already.

Kadexe ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:57:55 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Weird. I didn't see any kids' movies trailers before my showing. Unless you count that robot dog movie, or Dumbo.

Corporal_Cavernosa ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:33:46 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's a robot dog movie coming out?!

chicago_bunny ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:18:20 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

AXL. At my showing, the trailer for it ran just before Bumblebee. They could have been the same movie - robot dog / car bonds with young adult, someone tries to separate robot from person, explosions ensue.

Ubarlight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:45 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd toys are sold!!!

Cinemaphreak ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:01:14 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Still blissfully ignorant of what it looks like. Only got 3 trailers ahead of our screening (that stupid Robo-Dog flick, Dumbo and the next Fantastic Beasts).

2shy2flutter ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:54:06 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We got The Nutcracker and the Four Realms, Dumbo, The House with a Clock in Its Walls, Fantastic Beasts, and Mission Impossible with my showing.

CptNonsense ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:07 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have not seen any of those trailers

geezerforhire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:01:36 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We got fantastic beasts, bumblebee, nutcracker, and spiderverse

Nanobreak_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:10 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I got lucky, I had Bumblebee, Dumbo, Fantastic Beasts and Spiderverse

ThandiGhandi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:26:07 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 16:40:20 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Huge shoutout to that one bad guy for having what felt like the most diverse set of henchmen I've ever seen. A brown guy, a couple white guys, a black guy, and an Asian guy. Mad props to a woke ass villain. Also, props to the movie for not having Jurassic World style product placement when it came to cars (almost every vehicle was a Merc). In ant man, it felt like there was diversity in the cars, there were KIAs and Dodges and Mercedes and Hyundais and GMs, all in "starring" roles.

Also: Kinda sad this wasn't released on Father's Day. It's such a good father daughter movie.

infez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:02 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, great Father/Daughter movie until Cassie is left scarred when Hank, Janet, and Hope are suddenly dead and her dad's nowhere to be found

andrewthemexican ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 12:05:46 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm surprised by all these boring comments. My wife and I were busting out left and right with the jokes.

I think for an Ant-Man sequel this was flawless. I can see bits where they could improve on either plot or Ava's dialogue/characterization, but otherwise loved the movie.

Ubarlight ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:13:47 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was eagerly waiting for Michael Pena's exposition, and they built it up with the truth serum bit, and when that little song started playing, the entire audience got excited. It was awesome.

chili01 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:44:12 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Same, I loved all the jokes/puns that were being thrown out the entire movie.

pa79 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 20:37:06 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just don't get how Janet was able to survive 30 years in the quantum realm. Was there food? And how are they able to breathe without their helmets on? Was this ever explained?

LevynX ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:56:45 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Science is even more magic than magic in the MCU

Bakatora34 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:39:57 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My head canon is the healing particles that they mention in the post credit scene.

ramonycajones ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:17:20 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't have minded it so much if they didn't follow this up with saying that it was like, super bad for you to grow to 80 feet tall. Somehow at that size, physics and biology really kick in with some life-threatening limitations, but shrinking to the size of an ant or shrinking smaller than a subatomic particle have no physical or biological consequences at all. I wouldn't mind it if they waved it away with suit-magic, but it was really glaring when they chose not to wave it away for just one, simple thing.

pa79 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:40:08 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, I have no problem with suspension of disbelief (which is often a requisite in these settings) but at least be internally consistent with your own established rules.

Arahmitz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:53:43 on August 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Um, Pym Particle? Quantum Mechanics? :D

SirLeos ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:37:15 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

More baffling is how Tony, Peter and Strange were able to breathe in Titan. Have you think about that? But really, after Dr. Strange they are doing more "magical" things that don't need explaining.

seeingeyegod ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:29:14 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's not our Titan, it's MCU Titan, which is like completely terraformed or something.

Urge_Reddit ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:00:48 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's a totally different planet in a different part of the universe, which happens to share a name with our Titan, as far as I know.

seeingeyegod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:36 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh really? I thought it was actually supposed to be I our solar system. Maybe in some reimagining

Urge_Reddit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:32:56 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was Thanos' homeworld, which as far as I know isn't in our solar system, or our galaxy even, but I'm not 100% sure on any of that.

SirLeos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:31:47 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, it didnโ€™t stop me from enjoying that fight, I canโ€™t wait to see what Avengers 4 is saving for us.

pa79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:41:25 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wasn't that a planet? Maybe there was air.

SirLeos ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:47:40 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe, maybe. In that regard, maybe there is air in the quantum real and because you are so tiny, you can effectively live hundred of years there with the oxygen provided. Marvel Shenaningans

dehehn ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:54:58 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Except they'd be smaller than or the size of oxygen molecules if they're that small. So they would have nothing to breathe. We just have to ignore it.

SirLeos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:56:06 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly.

pa79 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:32:58 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe it's the speedforce... oh wait, wrong cinematic universe.

SirLeos ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:58:45 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pym particles, I ain't gotta explain shit.

Megavore97 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:50:40 on July 28, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who would win?

1 Nanite sized Ant-Man or 1 Ant-Man sized nanite?

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:25:49 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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operatorasfuck5814 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:15:30 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ulysses S Gr-Ant.

Gotta keep it accurate ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

jaydock ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:57:11 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I keep wanting to brush that ant emoji off my screen

andrewharlan2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:29:19 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

๐Ÿ›๐Ÿœ๐Ÿ๐Ÿž๐Ÿฆ—๐Ÿ•ท๏ธ๐Ÿฆ‚

seeingeyegod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:37 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah and The Mandarin could probably have defeated Thanos judging by how he could cut through Iron Man's best suits with his bare hands like they were butter, but oh Pepper Potts killed him easily.

warsage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:32 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant man's suit is the deadliest weapon of mass destruction in the universe short of the infinity stones

Huh? Is this something from the comics?

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:17:55 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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warsage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:57:38 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, I would not assume any interactions between any of Ant-Man's technology and real-world physics. The writers gave up on the idea of science right from the beginning and have basically been dealing with basically magic since then.

Ant-Man's suit is more comparable to a spy tool than to a WMD.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:27:34 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There is no explanation for anything in the movie. It is far less realistic than Harry Potter, for example. They have abandoned any tiny pretence of science and have moved on to pure unadulterated magic.

seeingeyegod ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:29:48 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So what kind of magic is Harry Potter if not pure and unadulterated?

seeingeyegod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:51 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

quantum magic

santoast_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:16:12 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My rationale is that if I was reading a comic book and wouldn't question it, why should I question in the movie format. It's just that the live action film medium makes it harder for viewers to suspend disbelief.

seeingeyegod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:26 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I never got into comic books, I guess because I couldn't suspend my disbelief.

kimchibear ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 21:48:06 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was underwhelmed. The movie had some great lines and some GREAT scenes (in particular the Janet-as-Scott scene, and the Luis truth serum scene) but overall the movie didn't resonate with me. It wasn't bad* but I felt pretty similar leaving the theater as I did after Thor 2. It was perfectly adequate, I probably won't remember it in a week.

They did a pretty poor job of setting up Ghost (I'M IN PAIN I WILL TOTALLY FUCK UP THAT LITTLE GIRL TO SAVE MY LIFE ARGH) and I'm not quite sure what to make of Foster. Feels like they wasted talented performers in Fishburne and Hannah John-Kamen.

Crazymage321 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:57:03 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I highly doubt she would actually hurt his daughter, but has no problem making him believe she will to get him to do what she wants.

seeingeyegod ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:28:05 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Janet as Scott reminded me of Altered Carbon

Megavore97 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:48:36 on July 28, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If it was Michael Peรฑa you could call it Altered Cabrone

Urge_Reddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:39 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know if you've seen Altered Carbon, but you are super close to something that actually happens on the show.

Megavore97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:01 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I've watched it.

Urge_Reddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:11 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cool beans.

Would've been funnier if you hadn't, but oh well.

chargingblue ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 12:15:39 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ALSO THE MID AFTER CREDIT SCENE HAD ME SHOOK

nguyensalmon ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 04:28:17 on August 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I bet Randall Park is going to come back having learned some close up magic

Luposolitario97 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:21:59 on August 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He was great in that role, I really hope we see him again!

xenorous ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:06:47 on August 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"... Why? Did... You wanna get dinner? I'm free..."

I almost feel bad scott didn't say yes

E_EqualsDankCSquared ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 07:18:13 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn so how's Scott gonna get out of the quantum realm

Nemarar26 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:58 on August 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe he won't and we will spend some time there and we'll get to see some quantum realm survival? That would be hella cool.

Squeezycakes17 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 10:23:48 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

to look at them together, Michelle Pfeiffer and Evangeline Lilly make a really believable mother and daughter

SongstressInDistress ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:00:05 on October 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Change Michelle's hair to brown, then they can pass as sisters

Lord-Lannister ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 15:50:31 on October 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was a good movie, perhaps a popcorn flick? But honestly, I got a bit bored, and it was barely exciting. I did have a couple of laughs, but is it wrong to say it was just average movie? It was good, but definitely forgettable and one of, if not the lowest in my marvel movie collection.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:33:53 on October 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Lord-Lannister ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:13:49 on October 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know why you're downvoted, but seriously to think this whole movie could have been entirely avoided had only Hank not decided to shrink the Lab down, for whatever reason that he did it. Ghost wouldn't have gotten it, the other idiots couldn't have snatched it from FBI, and no last minute oh no lab is shrunk and we cannot get from quantum realm to Lab unless it's big again. Probably nit picking, but I definitely think 1st was way better than this movie.

HeathHuxtable ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:36:00 on October 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I finally got around to watching this movie. I put it off thinking it was a throwaway. I enjoyed it! I went into it knowing it was gonna be corny. I was glad we got to hear another Michael Peรฑa story! His delivery is spot on. That ending though. Totally unexpected! I understand what happened, but I pretty much had put Infinity War out of my mind while I wait for the next Avenger movie. Anyway, it was good enough to waste two hours on. Go team Venture! Wait, wrong duo.

GabrielRR ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:43:20 on October 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was a fucking great movie, so funny, I loved the villains too, great to see some villains that are different from the whole asshole baddies that some movies like to throw at us.

robot_master_race ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:07:14 on October 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, loved the support cast and most of their dialogue!

JoJo_Pose ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:28:35 on October 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck, they actually did it. That credit scene. Fuck my life I just wanted to stay happy.

blockpro156 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:44:22 on October 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was the worst!

At least they didn't do the snap on that ant playing the drums, that would've been one step too far!

On a happy note though, this means that in Infinity War 2, we could see Ant-Man riding into battle on a giant tardigrade.

[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 05:40:13 on November 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just watched it. Fun movie, loved the character interactions and the dialogue, and I liked how sympathetic the "villains" were. But the plot felt extremely contrived and weak. Maybe I'm missing something but I don't get why they couldn't be like "Yo Ava you can totally use this lab to cure yourself after we do.something real quick, we'll even help you out. You've got weeks to live, right? More than enough time". Boom. Conflict avoided.

Overall it's definitely on the weaker end of MCU movies for sure. So far each of the MCU trilogies we've had so far- Captain America, Thor, and Iron Man- have each had one weak movie, one decent movie, and one amazing movie. Hope Ant Man's third movie is the amazing one!

robertbrysonhall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:20:43 on November 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ava was convinced the only way she could live was to extract the mother's energy built up in the years stuck in the quantum realm, so she couldn't wait until after the extraction.

kraesenpind ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:56:28 on November 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just asking out of curiosity, besides Ragnarok, which of the Captain America and Iron Man movies do you find to be amazing?

Sickpup831 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:42:14 on December 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the general consensus is that Iron Man 1 and the Winter Soldier are amazing. Iron Man 2 and The first avenger the weak films.

Yeezyonmypizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:38 on December 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think Civil War was great but yeah, Iโ€™d go with Winter Soldier

robertbrysonhall ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 08:22:24 on November 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lighthearted simple follow up to Infinity War. One of the more forgettable movies out of the MCU but still an all around solid film. Post credits scene was a plot twist on another level compared to the rest of the film.

sleepingturtles ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 09:21:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Those damn seagulls

FreshPrince514 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:24:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

RIP ANTonio Bandares.

interwebbed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:05:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

BANDERAS

blitzbom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:01 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was having Unravel flashbacks.

snarkamedes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:00 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mine?

mrbaryonyx ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:40:16 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can't wait for the third one, where Luis tries to explain the events of the Infinity War movies, complete with cameos from Thanos and the Avengers

clockworkpotato72 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:45:26 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That would be the absolute best scene in the series, hands down

ynwa1119 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 02:52:30 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Looks like AthLeap didn't work out too well so Jim Halpert joined the FBI

Aileos ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:19:53 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dat post credit scene!

FizzleMateriel ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 11:35:30 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

During the ending.

Me: "Wait a minute, what about Infinity War?"

After the post-credits scene.

Me: "Oh..."

Kidd_Flash ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:43:56 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't hate it, but for me, It was obvious that THAT was going to happen. People around me were a bit surprised and went "Ooooooo."

KibaTeo ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 11:54:13 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think it was more of the fact all 3 of them lost the coin flip at such a precarious timing kind of "Oooooooo"

vpsj ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 13:59:01 on October 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Question: Who exactly was the Wasp in this movie? Was it Hope? Because as far as I can recall, they did not say the word "Wasp" even once in the entire movie.

amorousCephalopod ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:05:09 on October 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's this new era of the superhero genre. Most heroes don't run around cornily proclaiming their identity. People eventually call them "Iron Man" or "Captain America" because they gain fame among the public, who need a nickname for what is usually somebody with a secret alter ego. Until then, they're just people with extraordinary powers, weapons, or skills.

Currahee2 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:57:09 on October 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes it's Hope, even though they didn't call her "Wasp" like calling Scott "Ant-Man".

LifeOfCray ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:29:58 on November 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott's antman?

samurai5625 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:33:55 on November 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Skipped this one during it's theatrical run, and just saw it last night. Pretty good! I enjoyed it but I don't think it was as good as the first Ant-Man.

That post credit scene leads me be believe that Ant-Man is gonna sit out Avengers 4 as well because he'll be stuck in the quantum realm. Maybe Ant-Man 3 will be about him trying to break out of there.

constantvariables ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:26:16 on November 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Based on set photos, it actually seems like the opposite. He may be instrumental in beating Thanos

morrowindnostalgia ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:43:06 on December 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Avengers 4 trailer just came out... I think you're gonna be very interested.

SneakBots ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:52:56 on December 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah it gave me good reason to finally watch this lol

JW_Stillwater ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:10:16 on November 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just watched it today for the first time!

I thought it was pretty good too, but I think it might actually be a little bit better than the 1st one. I'll have to think about it some more though.

We'll see what ends up happening with them during Avengers 4. I have a feeling that Scott being "spared" from Thanos might be an important thing.

wojx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:32:44 on November 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Watched it last night too. Something quantum maybe the answer.

SomaliRection ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 01:14:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

HOLY SHIT THAT MID CREDITS SEQUENCE

[deleted] ยท -33 points ยท Posted at 01:29:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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delti90 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:47:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think most everyone expected it, but it's still an awesome scene.

TimeThief2123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:05:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cool.

[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:38:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought this movie hit the perfect mark of Marvel humor and superhero action. I felt like "Ant-Man and The Wasp" and "Thor: Ragnarok" both hit similar vibes of humor that were missing in "Guardians Of The Galaxy II". I thought it did a good job of making jokes and then not overplaying them. I felt like Ghost was a step up from other MCU villains. A demonstration that Marvel is making it's phase III villains less one note but I wasn't thrilled by them.

I also thought that The Wasp was tough and competent while complimenting and not surpassing Ant-Man in his own film. Ultimately it was a pretty good movie and superhero movie.

I enjoyed the sort of indirect reference to John Wick as well.

captaincous ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:18:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, there was a what?? I love John Wick and I missed the reference! What was it??

envynav ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:37:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t think it was meant to be a reference. The Russian guy referred to Ghost as โ€œThe Babayagaโ€, which is a creature in Eastern European folklore.

ObsiArmyBest ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:55:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But it's been popularized to Western audiences recently because of John Wick.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would of thought so too if it was just the reference of Baba Yaga but Laurence Fishburne was in John Wick II and this film as well. So I thought it was supposed to be an indirect John Wick reference.

amerritt2 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 16:21:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Part of me really expected the ant in the second post credit scene to fade away into dust

Sgrewrite ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:59:45 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did they cut the `i go high you go low' part that was showed in the trailer or did I miss it

mikeweasy ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:02:53 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They cut it, I was waiting for that line as well.

Budliezer ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:22:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also cut Fishburne's surprised and impressed "Sixtey-Five?" which was one one my favorite lines in the trailer

arxero ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:26:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also cut was โ€œshe seems...more intenseโ€ Honestly the trailers lead me to believe this was gonna be a worse movie with cringier dialogue than it actually was.

Also Luis had a monologue about Ghost in the trailer that wasnโ€™t in the movie either

JediJones77 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:22:18 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The "go high, go low" line was funnier than any lines in the movie. A good semi-parody of action movie dialogue. The cringiest line was left in, the one about "comparing sizes." That should've been the one that got cut, the sitcommy sex joke.

mikeweasy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:38:33 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah and they used a different take of Hopes response.

jtfoxy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:33:00 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Ant-Man and the Wasp, teaming up" also wasn't in the movie

Chad2Badd ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:29:15 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That post credit scene gave me PTSD :(

chinesef000d ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:16:53 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My heart started racing :(

bookon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:06 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That one seems to me to belong in the body of the film and the after after credits scene wasn't worth sitting through the credits for. All that for a dumb joke I already saw in a commercial?

redfricker ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:41:33 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The context makes the joke so much better, though.

bookon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:17:03 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My actual gripe is that the first one should be in the movie proper. I assume it will be recapped in the next avengers.

J_weasel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:22:39 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But there was the emergency broadcast sound tho

bookon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:56 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

didn't seem worth it to me. I can assume the civil defences were activated after The Snap. Actually my real gripe is that the first stinger belongs in the movie, unless it's recapped in the next avengers film.

y2jasper ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:36:57 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Glad they continue the trend of Luis having the one punch knockout.

Bling2049 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:28:44 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The second time Ghost steals the lab, Hank reveals he's put a tracker on it and the ants show them the way, and there's this little moment after that when Hope turns around and gives her dad this big proud smile and Hank has a small smile on his face and looks down quickly, all embarrassed.

It's mostly a blink and miss but second viewings reveal these little details. Wholesome movie, this.

Willie9 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:07:05 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah, I enjoyed the family wholesomeness (cassie was absolutely adorable too), and the happy ending. Definitely needed that after Infinity War.

mid-credits scene put a damper on that, but the movie itself still has the happy charm.

dukefett ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 02:08:28 on August 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really enjoyed it; funny, not hilarious but enough. Good action. I never felt like anyone was in true danger, but how many truly are in Marvel movies anyway?

phraps ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:16:58 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ask Loki, Heimdall, Gamora, Vision, Spiderman, Black Panther, Starlord, Mantis, Drax, Groot, Scarlet Witch, Falcon, Bucky, Dr. Strange...

dukefett ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:05:07 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loki is the only one of those I think will stay dead.

phraps ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:54:35 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And Heimdall. I forgot about Heimdall...

xenorous ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:39 on August 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also gamora was killed. Not snapped

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:40:01 on October 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Potentially stored in the soul stone, since her death was directly related to it.

GodOfAllMinge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:24 on August 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And half (all?) The Asgardians

kalsikam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:16 on October 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didnt Thanos kill half of the Asgardians when he boarded the ship? So then half of that when he snapped, 1/4 :(

smhandstuff ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:04:56 on October 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Holy crap that post credit scene gave me chills!

And the movie was great as well. Honestly from the trailers I thought a lot of the jokes were going to be terrible but it still had great moments and even some heartwarming scenes.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:24:10 on October 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

IMO that was the best thing about the movie. I really think the whole premise was just a bit ridiculous. Yes, I understand I'm saying this in a marvel story, that's how ridiculous I think it is.

derekspent ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:47:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When Hank & Janet are heading out of the Quantum Realm I thought I saw some sort of city in the bottom left corner. Very yellow gold part of the trip out.

Apollo416 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:50:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Producers said to look for โ€œhintsโ€โ€™to future movies in the quantum realm, like the Janet silhouette in Ant-Man 1

69party69 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:41:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Quantum Realm is basically the MCU's Microverse, since they sold the Microverse film rights to FOX.

In the comics, Wasp meets an entire civilisation in the Microverse when she got Quantumed. The Micronauts are from there.

Probably same thing will happen here as well.

MrPMS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:17:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I saw it too!

Alphonse__Elric ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I saw that too!!!! I thought I was just seeing something I wanted to see.

skyrose2899 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 15:34:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My theater lost it at the "kid" Paul Rudd at Casie's school lmao

Joseph-Joestar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My favorite scene in the movie.

Cenoflame ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:45:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Time vortex mentioned in the mid credits scene 100% gonna be in Avengers 4.

0430ke ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 08:38:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So how did ghost not fall through the ground like a video game glitch?

[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 08:46:00 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Quantaum boots

AGOTFAN ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 10:43:02 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do you just put quantum in front of everything?

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 13:58:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Quantum no

ObsiArmyBest ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:00:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Quantum please

rdardi123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

lol!

Namebirthyear ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:38:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Noclip

KungFu-Penis ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 01:41:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just scrolled first page of top comments and havenโ€™t seen it. โ€œWASSSAPโ€

AlconTheFalcon ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:01:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That beloved commercial

waitingtodiesoon ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:25:52 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pour one out for Ulysses S. Ant and ANTonio Banderas

also minor nitpick: everyone had their phones out taking pictures of ant man with suit. Shortly after wasp rescues Scott and removed helmet on the pier in front of everyone. Wouldn't that be evidence he left the house?

Otherwise fantastic film loved it and nothing new to add from what I seen from previous comments and 8 months too long.

FoxInDaBox ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:46:41 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ulysses S. Gr-Ant

[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 14:56:56 on August 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was okay. I got spoiled by good villains after IW, Daredevil and Jessica Jones so I'm kinda dissapointed that there were no good villains here. Ghost is a Woobie who doesn't do much while Sonny is just a dumb bumbling idiot. Glad that they've adressed Scott being involved in Civil War even though he risked being forced to stay away from his daughter and his non-involvement in IW. Action was nice, most jokes were on point. Quantum Realm is still not really explained. Ghost is hot. Also, the "prototype suit" thing was really annoying. They should've called the movie "The Wasp and Ant-Man".

utopista114 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:34:43 on October 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, in this movie men are idiots or fight all the time and women are smart and resourceful. Divorced people have the best relationship ever (she was his ex, right?). It is not difficult to see that they're slurping the Disney juice hard.

[deleted] ยท 130 points ยท Posted at 01:52:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hands down the best Stan Lee cameo in my opinion.

Capn_Crotch ยท 134 points ยท Posted at 02:04:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I dunno. Strip Club Deadpool cameo is a pretty high bar.

AngryGourd ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:10:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Give it up for Chastity!

KoalaBackfist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:23:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's way up there, for sure.

Stabfist_Frankenkill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:50 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mallrats is the best one, for sure.

gigoloko2 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:53:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So meta, that comment was hilarious.

PiFlavoredPie ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:17:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Could you explain it? I donโ€™t think I heard it quite clearly/didnโ€™t get it.

ryantyrant ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 02:26:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He said something to the effect of "the 60s are fun, but I'm paying for it now" implying he did a ton of LSD and other psychedelic drugs which people like him probably did when they came up with these characters

lobonmc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:52:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think it was even more meta he created most of this characters in the 60s. Now he needs to do all this cameos in the films of the characters he created.

ZacPensol ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:39:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Upon seeing his car apparently disappear, he says, "The 60's were fun, but I'm paying for it now." implying that he assumes he's having an LSD flashback from where he did drugs in the 60's.

The meta aspect of this is the long-held implication (or maybe he's confirmed it) that Stan and other writers/artists were doing drugs back then and that's what inspired some of the trippier comics and imagery, most notably Dr. Strange.

gigoloko2 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:40:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This right here is the perfect explanation!

ribblesquat ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:33:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He said something like, "The 60s sure were fun but I'm paying for it now." Implying he thought his shrinking car was an LSD flashback.

Jaymike127 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:17:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It took me a few seconds to get it, but then I couldnโ€™t stop laughing.

The-Juggernaut ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:32:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Im confused because I thought that was without question the worst cameo

scimitarsaint ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 20:46:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I know I'm gonna get downvoted, but this is how you make strong female characters. Wasp was great, and was just as capable as antman(if not moreso), and they played off each other well. Ghost wasn't bad for being bad's sake. She had legitimate issues, was as strong as the 2 protagonists without being overpowered.

Star wars can take a lesson from marvel.

deadrebel ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:53:37 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You'd only get downvoted if it wasn't true. But yeah, strong female characters here - totally with you. Flaws are relatable and good characters are relatable ones.

SupremeLeaderSnoke ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:57:48 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Leia, and Ahsoka would like a word with you.

Comiccow6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:04 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Adding onto this, I donโ€™t think thereโ€™s was a single joke at Waspโ€™s expense. It would have been incredibly easy for Ant-Man to make a joke about being emasculated or Wasp being his sidekick, but the writers treat her with respect through the whole movie without calling attention to it.

greeliomio ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:32:52 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

lol why do people give so much a shit about strong female characters, you people sound like you have huge insecurities about yourselves

Hobbit-guy ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 21:32:49 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Can't believe anyone would be fooled by this, we look like ourselves at a baseball game" Finally somebody said it, thanks Scott.

ptam ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 22:01:40 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"How did he buy a ticket so fast?!"

FGHIK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:14 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's a criminal so he probably forced his way on.

ptam ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:44:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There was a ton of lampshading. I remember noting two more lines but I can't recall them exactly

recuerdamoi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:07:43 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"how did he buy his ticket so fast?" Was one I think?

friendofelephants ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:21:17 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also, โ€œdo you guys just put Quantum in front of everything?โ€

ptam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:36:10 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! Thank you. That was itching my mind for a while.

Noobiecake ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 02:09:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost was a great villain. Her โ€œphase powerโ€ was great visually and made the fights. The post credits scene was great with that eerie feeling that Infinity War left you on (which was low key hype for the next Avengers film.).

Bonus shoutout for the daughter-dad moment before the rescue!

RedSnapper24 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:23:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked it. It was a fun action movie. I agree with those who stated Scott seemed like the subplot to Hope's Wasp and I'm okay with that. Also, I really liked the villain. She wasn't after world domination or destruction. She just wanted to live and for the pain to stop. I found her to be relatable. I have a nerve pain disorder and there are days where I'm pretty sure I would to anything, including fighting Ant-man and the Wasp, to make the pain stop. I would be no where near as successful as her at it though.

xitzengyigglz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was rooting for her too.

EinSanity ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:45:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved it just as much as the first film. Ant-Man is a much more lower, personal stakes franchise and I hope they continue that formula. The original was an entertaining heist but this felt more of a timed rescue mission. It makes you wonder did the film really needed a villain? Ghost wasn't really a villain just a character with her own plans. Once again, Peyton Reed utilizes the entire supporting cast no matter how small their screen time were that could make everything come full circle.

AnonymousTrollLloyd ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:21:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Without Ghost the plot would basically have been:

Hank: Hey, lets go rescue Janet!

Half an hour of science

Janet: It's sure good to not be in the quantum realm anymore.

Everyone dies, the end

NBALive2000 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:14:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loved the mid credits scene. My question: how will scott get out of the quantum realm with the pym family vanished?!

Thereal_Sombra ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:22:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Time vortex?

ryphi12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Bingo, this one makes the most sense. Considering we know Avengers 4 will deal with time travel, I highly doubt itโ€™s just a coincidence they included that tidbit.

helloiamdaniel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:30:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or maybe someone like Luis will wonder why he's missing and check it all out, finally communicate with Scott so he can walk Luis through letting him out.

SutterCane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I took the second stinger to mean the snap got Luis too. Cause him and Scott were roommates and the place was empty.

Thereal_Sombra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like this idea

helloiamdaniel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:37:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Spoilers for Infinity War part 2:

number1lakeboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They all have these devices on their hands, Cap doesn't have his cowl on either. I think Scott links up with them earlier on and they go back to The Battle of New York to take the Tesseract and Loki's staff. Or an alternate reality, or both.

BellRd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We had to leave before the second stinger; can you tell me what happened?

neuromorph ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:42:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost needs the energy injection, she will likely look for it when it is late. And release Scott

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:58:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There were audible gasps in the audience, it was very well done, if predictable. Great tie-in.

mikeweasy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:01:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

OMG when they showed the dust I literally said "shit".

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:44:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would think the computer would have a safety countdown. In case they get jumped or something happens. Failsafe device would make sense.

hotrod2k82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought the same thing. But then I remembered he got out on his own before. So I think he will be alright getting out on his own again.

abnerayag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Luis:wazaaaaap

Vernon_Broche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:17 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean he did it himself the first time.

InspectorMendel ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 08:12:31 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm convinced that Ghost and Bill Foster were originally planned to be the same person.

As a single character it's a cool concept - personal connection to Hank, complicated dynamic where they hate each other but need each other, cool powers, demonstrates the danger of the quantum realm.

But split into two, both characters are super one-dimensional and boring. And the relationship between the two is just completely left blank.

I don't know why they got split - maybe a scheduling conflict or something? But it definitely hurt the movie.

JacobBlah ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:27:15 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked their relationship. It was a mirror inverse of Hank and Hope's relationship.

Twigryph ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:02:27 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's to reinforce the parallel father/daughter dynamic. I loved that, it was my suggestion to fix the first film's villain. Thematically, they tie in far better and have an emotional range they couldn't've without each other. I loved both.

Iamnotanorange ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:56:19 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I sorta thought Goliath/ Bill Foster and Elihas Starr could have been the same character, honestly.

They used a new character just to be Ghost's dad! Could have been Goliath! He already hates Hank Pym.

Why do we need all that exposition & flashback, revolving around introducing a new character? That could have been simpler.

But u/InspectorMendel you're right too. Maybe all three could have been the same character.

MyPasswordIsCherry ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:13:59 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

them being one and the same wouldn't feel right to me

I'm glad they didn't combine them

Ubarlight ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:08:34 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Right, Bill Foster was Goliath, a past superhero, and it would be weird to have Goliath turn into Ghost.

SupperTime ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 02:08:54 on October 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fun movie but overall very dull with no substance or residual effect. This movie could cease to exist and it wouldn't affect the overall story of the MCU.

suss2it ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:18:05 on October 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True, but I donโ€™t think every movie needs to serve the story of the MCU.

fede01_8 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:23:07 on October 30, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's not a great standalone movie either

blockpro156 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:44:49 on October 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, isn't that kind of the point of the MCU?

suss2it ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:38:21 on October 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, I think the point is to tell interesting end entertaining stories. When you the shared universe aspect the main point you end up with messes like Iron Man 2 and Age of Ultron and on a bigger scale BvS, Amazing Spider-Man 2 and The Mummy. Continuity is there to serve the story, not the other way around.

blockpro156 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:32:30 on October 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You misunderstand, I was agreeing with you, what I'm saying is that the point of the MCU is to have lots of movies in the same universe that are not neccesarily all part of the same overal story.

suss2it ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:32:45 on October 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, my bad.

AnatlusNayr ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:55:04 on October 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ye but it didn't serve the story of Ant-man universe itself either. Not much new info about the quantum realm. No new tech. Only new thing is a phasing person and that there's healing stuff for said phasing in the quantum world. Nothing special.

blockpro156 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:45:26 on October 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

New technology and worldbuilding is plot, not story.

The movie did plenty to continue the story of Scott and Hope and Hank.

AnatlusNayr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:11:47 on October 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Like how? Scott in prison. Scott out of prison. Hank is a nerd. His wife still alive. Done

amorousCephalopod ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:11:27 on October 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's something oddly specific to fault the movie for. Is this a shonen anime? Do the heroes need new powers and costumes each time around to keep the story fun and easy to merchandise?

suss2it ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:02 on October 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah thatโ€™s true too. They definitely couldโ€™ve done a lot more with the Quantum Realm.

amorousCephalopod ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:08:59 on October 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie could cease to exist and it wouldn't affect the overall story of the MCU.

I mean, isn't that a good thing? The movie's story itself is contained and has a brief tie-in at the conclusion. Was there anybody expecting half the movie to be him dealing with the snap?

sparxthemonkey ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:37:52 on October 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"This movie could cease to exist and it wouldn't affect the overall story of the MCU".

What about the end's tie in to Avengers 4?

SupperTime ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:02:30 on October 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Literally 2 minutes they could have explained in avengers 4.

DonMan8848 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:34:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nice lampshade. "Do you guys just say quantum before everything?"

ifknlovela ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 05:48:03 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Invest in whatever brand of makeup the wife was wearing, lasts 30 years and stays perfectly applied with aging!

Worthyness ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:55:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just be Michelle Pfeiffer. Got it.

DropItLikeItsHotBear ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:01:22 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That white gold...

Spilly42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Janet packs the makeup on all her trips

69party69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:06:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
blitzbom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Quantum makeup.

Yes we're putting quantum in front of everything.

dolphinguy ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 09:55:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Someone brought up the idea that Luis's super power is being able to knock people out with one punch in the discussion thread for the first Ant Man, and he didn't disappoint in this movie

Nitrosaber ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:49:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Luis is one punch man confirmed.

Vrylox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:20:03 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really hope he gets a suit in the third movie (if there is one).

In the first one, he joins the team

In the second one, he says he wants a suit

In the third one, he gets a suit

His trilogy concludes.

magikarpcatcher ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:48:49 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That mid credits scene. no!!!

Ascarea ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 08:05:58 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man and the Wasp is the first MCU film where the stakes are purely personal for its main characters and the general population is not at risk. There is no threat to thwart, there is only a goal to achieve for emotional reasons. This would have been great had the writers not felt the need to include some sort of villain. The gang is already on the run from the law and a crime boss who wants their technology, so why muddle this further with Ghost? Cool fight scenes aside, the villain adds nothing to the story and makes a movie thatโ€™s already all over the place feel too complicated and full of technobabble. Itโ€™s also notable that this movie is very much about the Wasp and Hank Pym, with Ant-Man only there for the ride. Evangeline Lilly is very good in what can only be described as the lead role, and Michael Peรฑa once again steals the shows when it comes to comedy. Despite issues, the movie is entertaining and in some ways inventive, not to mention they utilized the shrinking and growing technology in very fun ways.

Bling2049 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:21:28 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree that cutting down on ghost would've streamlined the story, but in keeping with their primary focus of essentially making this a comedy caper, especially of the type which features 3-4 groups each after each other in different ways and for different reasons, her storyline contributed greatly. Ant-man and the wasp hints at callbacks to old school comedies where we're introduced to different groups early on and as we approach the climax all these people are invariably brought together for hilarious results.

Unpopular opinion though, but I believe more than Ghost and Burch being unnecessary Laurence Fishburne's Foster was ultimately the expendable character. His biggest role in the movie is moral policing, refusing to help Ghost if she kidnapped Cassie and attempting to convince Hank to help Ghost. Moreover his issues with Hank are suggested early on but we don't really see them come to terms with each other in a meaningful way, their truce seems circumstance driven more than anything else. I feel a more efficient screenplay would've done away with his character and incorporated his actions within the other characters.

Perhaps instead of giving Ghost that assassin back story, she could've taken after her father and become a reclusive scientist fighting to save herself. Intelligence could've been added to her list of virtues. It could also have suggested that she'd contemplated every possible solution before surmising that she had no alternative but to sacrifice Janet.

But then again every movie is better off with a Laurence Fishburne than without.

MatttheBruinsfan ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:27:49 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

At least Foster engaged me as a viewer in several different scenes. Every time Burch reappeared my reaction was "Him again? Why is he still in this movie?"

Bling2049 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:18 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Given that Burch was an antagonist in the movie, you detesting him makes sense, but yeah as an empathetic character that we can get behind, Foster is way higher than Burch.

The chase sequence towards the end of the film was mostly Burch's doing, as was Michael Pena's interrogation scene, and as both those scenes were highlights of the film I wouldn't want Walton Goggins' Burch to go anywhere. On my second viewing I was able to appreciate Burch better, so maybe a second viewing will do it for you too.

MatttheBruinsfan ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:39:16 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, it's not so much a matter of sympathizing with the villain as being interested in what they're doing versus not giving a rip or cringing when they reappear. I never got bored with Ghost or wanted her to go away so more interesting plot elements could take over.

I'll give you the interrogation scene as one of the best of the movie. I thought the chase went on WAY too long, though, and Burch's part of it made him seem more like Wile E. Coyote than an actual criminal mastermind who'd be concerned about things like drawing too much attention or running afoul of FBI pursuit of their shared target.

Willie9 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:05:48 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kinda feel the opposite way with respect to Ghost. I thought Ghost was a cool villain with interesting motives, while the crime boss, while funny, was pretty one-note and not really there. I don't mind that he was there but I think eliminating him rather than ghost would be a much better idea for "slimming down" the movie.

Ascarea ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:12:59 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The crime boss was very one-dimensional and "I want your tech" has been done before in the MCU, but at least he made sense in the movie. They are on the run, they need to make deals with shady people, and one betrays them and goes after them. It's nothing mind-blowing or original, but whatever. Ghost, on the other hand, made no sense the way they handled that character. Why not just have Hank Pym help her instead of doing the shit she and Fishburne did? And her backstory is relegated to one short flashback and exposition-heavy technobabble when it could have been way more interesting. I also would have preferred if she was just a desperate person trying to save herself instead of some highly trained mercenary.

Fn_Spaghetti_Monster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:17 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I tend to agree w/ u/Willie9. Ghost is a character you can reuse again in the future MCU movies. While the Goggins "Bad guy" character did give us the whole truth serum scene he didn't they really add anything else besides generic bad guy. (I tend to like when other characters pop up in other movies. They have done with the heroes so it would cool to maybe have some of the 'villains' cross pollinate as well.

As far as Ghost motivation Hank was a cranky recluse while Fost (Fishburne) was a university professor and thus much more easily accessible. Fost obvious dislike/distrust of Pym would easily rub off on Ghost who already feels betrayed by "Pym tech" and the system. Even once Pym finds out Ghost's trouble he basically tells her he isn't going to do anything to help her until after the request his wife.

captainexploder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:08 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What you say about having the villains "cross pollinate" is I think the MCU's biggest failure so far. Instead of killing the villain almost every time, have them reoccur just like the heroes, showing up to trouble other characters on occasion, or working for bigger and badder villains, etc.

ramonycajones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:31 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, Loki has been in more movies than some of the heroes.

Red Skull was in a couple, granted that it was just a cameo, and Zemo I believe is being saved to come back. Vulture is coming back in the next Spider-Man. Thunderbolt Ross, although not purely a villain, was an antagonist who came back. Winter Soldier has been in three movies. Ronan and Korath are returning from Guardians to Captain Marvel. And Thanos, of course, left his fingerprints over and over until his big show, which will be at least two movies long.

That's not too bad of a record, and I may be forgetting some.

captainexploder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:46:17 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That is actually a good list, and another one you didn't mention that I wasn't thinking about is Nebula, although she's transitioning into sort of a good person, same as what happened with Loki. Which is fine, and yes the future is looking a little brighter in this regard, but as you even say most of these are all just slated to return, we haven't really seen it happen yet outside of a few.

I'd also like to see The Grandmaster return, because the MCU can never have enough Jeff Goldblum.

sparxthemonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:04 on October 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would have liked Killmonger to have been kept alive. Instead of taking his life, I would have liked to see him have a more in depth talk with T-Challa at the end, followed by him being locked up. Then in Infinity War, we get a scene where T'Challa frees Killmonger to help him in the Wakanda battle. Killmonger has had some time to think while in prison, and while he still stands by his ideologies, he's done expressing them in such an extreme manner.

MatttheBruinsfan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:32:32 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with you. I think Burch should have been a one-and-done appearing only in the scene about his meeting with Hope. Ghost and the FBI had compelling reasons for relentless pursuit of the Pyms. It was ridiculous for Burch and his thugs to be hounding them like Javert in Les Miserables.

Decilllion ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:35:42 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You need thugs in these small scale movies. The heroes need to show off their powers in cool fights that they win so there is a contrast when we see the super villain kick their ass.

Stellen_Klo ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:07:30 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Forever bothering individual...

midnight_rebirth ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:08:31 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man And The Wasp is a fun summer action flick that brings a much-needed lighter tone after the heavy-hitting Infinity War. Though never quite reaching the heights of the aforementioned film, Ant-Man And The Wasp does manage to improve on its predecessor in most regards.

Paul Rudd, Michael Douglas, and Evangeline Lily all return as our main characters and deliver well-rounded and realistic performances throughout. Rudd continues to highlight with a great sense of humor.

The plot benefits greatly from a more realized villain in Ghost. Sheโ€™s got a fantastic backstory and a believable performance delivered from Hannah John-Karen. Unfortunately we also get a generic, bland villain in Sonny Burch. The performance isnโ€™t bad, but the character is a walking cliche who wouldโ€™ve been best served at playing less of a major role.

The plot feels tighter in this one. Weโ€™re seeing ramifications from the first Ant-Man and Captain America: Civil War. Itโ€™s nice to see Scott struggling with becoming Ant-Man again versus trying to be a father. Thereโ€™s some great stuff between he and his daughter throughout the film.

Peyton Reed returns to direct, and I think he did just as good of a job as the original. Some of the shots, especially when Ant-Man and The Wap are enlarged or shrunken, are great. The moment when Ant-Man rises out of the water as Giant Man is awesome.

Ant-Man And The Wasp is a great example of how a superhero sequel can keep what works about the original and improve on some key aspects to make it better. The writing isnโ€™t amazing, and it suffers from a bit of a secondary villain problem, but itโ€™s a great movie and I recommend seeing it if youโ€™re an MCU fan, fan of the original, or just want some laughs. The humor is even better in this one.

3.5/5

Summoarpleaz ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:38:55 on August 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie is supposed to explain where ant man was during the events of IW. But does it really?

We know initially he was on house arrest, but it seems by the time everyone is snapped, Ant man and the Wasp and the team are well into conducting experiments separate and apart from the events of the movie, which leads me to believe that heโ€™s been done with house arrest for some time (at least a few days...).

Did I miss something?

Squeezycakes17 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:28:14 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

it's not like he was ever The Avengers' go-to guy for fighting intergalactic invasions

newo15 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:09:05 on August 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

did you not stay for the aftercredit scene?

Summoarpleaz ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:19:36 on August 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s what Iโ€™m saying thoโ€” in the aftercredit scene, the four of them are conducting experiments to go to the quantum realm when they get snapped. It appeared to me that this was happening well after the end of the main movie (I.e. sometime after he gets out of house arrest).

Maybe no one bothered to check in with ant man in that time, but idk I thought IW took place over just a few days. At least antman would have been around for the final day or so...

WebbieVanderquack ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:20:08 on October 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If we assume that they built the new quantum tunnel in the van as a matter of urgency (to help Ghost), and they started building it the day after Janet returned and Scott was released from house arrest, then yeah, it may not have been long at all after the events of the movie, but Scott would have been available in that time to fight Thanos.

The explanation that "after the whole Accords situation, [Hawkeye] and Scott took a deal" because "it was too tough on their families" and they're now "under house arrest" explains why they haven't been around much lately, but it doesn't explain why they couldn't be called on at the last minute to help defend their planet. Even if The Avengers thought Scott was still under house arrest, he's been busted out of prison for less, and he'd happily go to battle if there was a 50/50 chance Cassie could die.

So it is a problem. But there are two possible ways around it.

Possibility one: few people on earth, including Scott, have any idea how serious the problem is until it's too late.

Infinity War co-director Joe Russo and writer Stephen McFeely said Infinity War took place over two days "at most," adding that:

Nobody gets to rest in this film. They literally get Strange, Tony, Banner and Wong get about two minutes of exposition out before the story comes to them, and now theyโ€™re in motion. Inciting incidents happened and the characters are in motion

Maw's spaceship hovers over Manhattan and a lot of bad stuff goes down - which Scott would definitely have seen on the news later that night - but then Tony Stark, Peter Parker and Doctor Strange fight them and the spaceship leaves, which may look like a problem solved to most people. Maybe no one knows what's happening up there and how close the universe is to serious peril.

Later in the movie, just after Thanos clicks his fingers, Nick Fury and Maria Hill know something's up, but they don't know what. They haven't heard from Stark, and don't know where he is. [Edit: Pepper Potts knows Tony is in space, but she lost contact with him, and Maria Hill observes that they're monitoring all available satellites, but have had no luck finding him. That suggests few people on earth have a good understanding of what's happening up there]. They appear perplexed by "multiple bogies over Wakanda." And they're as surprised as everyone else when people start vanishing.

Possibility Two: Ant-Man, the Wasp, et al do know the universe is in serious peril, and entering the tunnel to harvest quantum energy has something to do with their efforts to help.

Summoarpleaz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:01:51 on October 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for your explanation. And I like possibility two... curious how it all fits together.

mushaf ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:04:06 on October 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the mid-credit scene, Scott specifically said that the healing particles secured were for their "new ghost friend". That eliminates possibility two. But possibility one makes a lot of sense to me.

TonytheEE ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:47:58 on August 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is my problem too. IW happens in like, a day. A REALLY bad day. This means that they saw Giant ring-like spaceships in New York around lunch time (Wong and Strange were getting lunch when Banner crashes in) and decided that would be the best time for a science experiment. My guess is that Ghost couldn't wait any longer.

Food for thought though. How much time has passed on earth? The snap happens with daylight in both San Francisco and Wakanda. If we assume it's noon in NY at the start, Then the sun is over the middle of South America
(New York, Noon).

This is 20 hours later, Fully Morning in CA, Day in Africa (20 Hours Later)

This is sunset over Africa, (A Full 24 Hours later)

Which means Infinity War happens in the span of about 20-24 hours. I gotta wonder about Scott, Pym, and the Van Dynes seeing all of that and then deciding, "Aliens was yesterday. We're all good now!"

Nemarar26 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:45 on August 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why do you assume that it happened "well after the end of the main movie"?

TugaLx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:32:59 on August 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think he means the ending scene only

newo15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:10 on August 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

oh yeah i get you.

natemilonakis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:43 on August 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Happy cake day!

newo15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:35 on September 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

damn, i thought i had my first one quite recently as well. time flies i guess. thanks

natemilonakis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:25 on September 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
In-China ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:04:42 on August 30, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

in AIW the crew said that Hawkeye and Antman couldn't come because they were focusing on their families

notUrGod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:12 on November 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you, this is the discussion I was looking for. If aliens invaded earth again, seems like that would be what everyone would be focused on, not doing experiments with the quantum tunnel.

Sockin ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:29:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Paul Rudd and Evangeline Lily carry the hell out of this. Through two movies they've made me care more about Scott and Hope's relationship more than any other in the MCU.

mau-el ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:35:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sun's getting real low, big guy.

Frostbite94 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:46:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The first Post-Credit scene made me squeal like a mouse. I just expected a fun Ant Man movie, which it was, but that scene... Damn.

dewsh ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:56:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of people gasped. I should have expected it but it felt like a gut punch after such a fun movie. Especially considering he's stuck in the quantum realm

qwertiful ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:31:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yea people in my theater went crazy... we'll actually, just one fella in particular, everyone else somewhat expected it, but was still sad when it happened

GotMoFans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m waiting on the after credit scene, but I was having PTSD when I saw the first one.

2rio2 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 13:54:29 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I ended up re-seeing this by accident (visiting family and they hadn't seen yet), but one small character note I really enjoyed about the film:

Hank and Hope have very similar personalities - prickly, difficult to work with, judgemental, but still needing love.

Scott and Janet have very similar personalities - goofy, silly, very broad and emotional.

Kadexe ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:46:23 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is my memory spotty, or did Scott and Janet both call their respective daughters "jelly bean"?

2rio2 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:27:31 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott calls Cassie "Peanut" and Janet calls Hope "Jellybean" - they both like cute nicknames though.

Staind1410 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:11:50 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I know Scott definitely called his daughter "peanut", so maybe not. But Scott also called Hope "jelly bean" when channeling Janet, so maybe you're not wrong?

Sugreev2001 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:15:15 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Enjoyed the movie a lot, but I wish a hugely talented actor like Walton Goggins wasnโ€™t wasted in such a lame role. Ghost wasnโ€™t much of an antagonist either, but what saved the movie was the chemistry between the actors. Michael Pรชna and Michael Douglas were awesome again, and so was Paul Rudd. Evangeline was a little boring to me.

WYUYBDAAHNFIAGT ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:10:45 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost was probably not much of antagonist so she can appear as a protagonist in avengers 4 or the mcu reboot

FizzleMateriel ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 11:38:27 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Smart move actually, I was worried that they'd just kill her off and her character would amount to nothing.

cough Killmonger cough

ramonycajones ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:15:05 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought Killmonger amounted to something. I think he had a lasting legacy in changing Wakanda and Black Panther's life and outlook.

talkingBS ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:13:08 on August 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just wish Black Panther had told him No, and that he would save his life and help him on his path to redemption.

FizzleMateriel ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:43:19 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Enjoyed the movie a lot, but I wish a hugely talented actor like Walton Goggins wasnโ€™t wasted in such a lame role.

I had the same feeling, but for Laurence Fishburne instead.

Not that he was wasted, but I do feel that they could have found a better character to use him for. Oh well.

holycowrap ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:37:30 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She sure is cute, though

animusincendia ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:25:47 on August 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Very funny movie, just the light heartedness we needed after infinity war. Am extremely curious to know how they will tie in Antman following the ending.

James Gunn petition

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FullySikh ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:20:27 on October 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. It was alright. Enjoyable as a popcorn flick. However, all the science and the way they do the shrinking is completely absurd now. How does shrinking cars also shrink the passengers within them? Was there a film explanation I missed. Heck, luis shrank as well without a suit just because he was sitting in a car. Apart from that it was enjoyable.

Also I am glad James Gunn has not been hired back. Not because of the whole joke scandal thing but because I genuinely believe Guardians 3 will be a better movie without him. Guardians 1 was a success because of Nicole Perlman's (the writer) contribution to the film before Gunn joined the project. She spent almost two years researching the characters and the world. James Gunn tookover everything in Volume 2 and you can clearly see how much worse the film is. The character arcs have changed. Drax becomes a parody of himself. Forced Jokes, Plot points, very rushed, cliched. It lacked the balance Vol. 1 had. Only redeeming quality is Yondu. Just providing some info around why Vol 1 was such a success compared to Vol 2.

Surfer949 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:05 on October 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah that whole shrinkathon thing bothered me a lot. Let's throw out plots left and right cause it makes the story funny type of deal. But it's a super hero movies so whatever I guess..

whiskeybill ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 15:59:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know if I was imagining things, but when Hank and Janet were escaping the quantum realm in the submarine did anyone else see a City in the background?

TheHoundThatRides ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:35:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't spot it but others have mentioned seeing a city.

[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:10:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Seal412 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:12:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Same, the tone was so lighthearted I assumed it wouldn't even be addressed.

mikeweasy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:04:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That after credit scene was such a troll. The midcredit scene was WOW.

BraveBoyPro ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:00:04 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ya know, if I had to cut anything from the movie, it would be the sequence where Ant-Man and Wasp have to go to school to retrieve the old costume, but I'll be damned if Paul Rudd running around in a little kid's jacket wasn't hilarious.

Mental_Caregiver ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:30:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Hey champ, how was your day at school?" and "You want a juice box?" might be my favorite lines of this movie

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:34:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"do you have one of those?"

Agent-Cooper ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:56:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The audience in my theater just lost it when he was going down the stairs.

SalukiKnightX ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:58:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The change in the movie's score during that sequence was pretty cool too.

zombiereign ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:18:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tiny Rick!

greatness101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:06 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, that scene was hilarious actually. They could have cut any scene with Walter Coggins' character though.

the_starbase_kolob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:44 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why are multiple people calling him Walter Coggins?

greatness101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s his name

the_starbase_kolob ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, it's Walton Goggins

idlecogz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think if we hadn't gotten Deadpool with the child's body not even 3 months ago the gag might have worked better.

ContinuumGuy ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:45:50 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Abby Fortson is a scene-stealer. That smile on her face when Giant-Man showed up on TV. ..

SpiderMuse ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:03:06 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Without exaggeration, I think she's the best "child of protagonist motivator" character I've ever seen (don't know how else to word a character like hers). I wish I had a daughter like that.

RahulBhatia10 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:33:16 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah she was amazing! The scenes between her and Paul rudd were some of my favorites in the film and really will make it all the more emotionally distraught when Antman reunites with her in the post snap world. Presumably it will be years after so Cassie will be older as well

CornDogMillionaire ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:01:47 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Crazy how many actually good child actors there are around today

jonsnowme ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:21:37 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When she said she wanted to be his partner, I melted.

PM_If_Gay ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:58:56 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ANT-MAN I DON'T FEEL SO GOOD

KoovinGroovin ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 08:32:40 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This was my first time watching an Antman movie so I wasnโ€™t too sure what to expect, but Iโ€™d seen the positive reviews so I was hoping itโ€™d live up to my expectations. I think the movie was a bit slow-paced to start with, but starts to speed up towards the end with the car chase. I liked the chemistry between Hope, Antman and Hank. Also liked the small comedic moments with Luis and Woo, however I felt Lawrence Fishburneโ€™s character was underdone a little.

In terms of the villains, I thought Ghost was an interesting character and her backstory and situation gave her some depth, so we understand her motive. I thought Walter Gogginโ€™s character was alright and solid enough, but not anything memorable.

Overall, the plot felt a bit all over the place, but it got there in the end, the overall cast was pretty good and I did enjoy most of the humour. I knew this wasnโ€™t going to be a big budget MCU movie but rather a โ€œB tierโ€™ film and I think it delivers a fun, enjoyable, laid back movie.

JTNJ32 ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 09:37:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

-Michele Pfeiffer is hot

-โ€ŽI was really worried about the comedy of the film without the foundation of Edgar Wright this time around. I'm happy to say that I had nothing to worry about.

-โ€ŽI loved the way they brought back Luis' timeline joke with the "truth serum".

-โ€ŽAm I the only one that finds Bill & Ava's relationship a little creepy? Did they mention if he had a family of his own?

-โ€ŽNo, you don't understand, Michelle Pfeiffer is beautiful. Like, how?

-โ€ŽI have to question this film's logic, like how the hell does no one see them constantly shrinking & growing. Cars in broad daylight just changing size left & right.

-โ€ŽHow did Janet survive in the Quantum Realm all of those years? I know time & space move differently, but that doesn't really explain how she got new clothes while she was there.

umagrandepilinha ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 09:48:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I saw a temp version of the film (job perks) that had an extra scene explaining that in the quantum realm there is a whole new biosphere/life forms and civilisations. So I assume Janet just lived among them for 30 years. Thereโ€™s a leftover shot that made the film, when Hank and Janet are leaving the quantum realm in their ship, where you can see a massive โ€œmini-cityโ€ on the bottom left for a second.

I also assume that because Scott was left trapped in there at the end, that he will somehow interact with beings in the quantum realm on the next film he appears (infinity war 2? Antman 3? Idk).

chantastic ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:04:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Quantum Realm is the MCU version of what was the Microverse in the comics. It is where the Micronauts are from, but Marvel no longer has a license to use the Micronauts, so they had to give the Microverse a different name.

skinnymike1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:01:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How can they not have the license for it if I assume they are the ones who created that name for their concept?

69party69 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:38:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The company hit some hard times in the 90s.

Had to sell movie rights to the Xmen and all mutants, FF, Spidey, and also the Micronauts.

I think FOX has the Micronauts film rights for now.

But Papa Disney will take care of that now

skinnymike1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I see. What a shame I would say but it fixed itself.

Sfmilstead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:28 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Actually, Micronauts were originally toys, made by Mego. The license to the toys (and derivative works of fiction) were bought by Hasbro, which means theyโ€™re in Paramountโ€™s hands right now.

Iโ€™m not sure how Marvel can continue to use the Microverse by name in their comics but not in film, but it could be one of those items that they donโ€™t want to spend lawyer hours to find out if they can/canโ€™t use it.

DueceSeven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They sold it with xmen

skinnymike1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:56 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just got informed, thank you.

Chevron ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 15:29:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

-โ€ŽAm I the only one that finds Bill & Ava's relationship a little creepy? Did they mention if he had a family of his own?

I read it completely and convincingly as a father-daughter type relationship and actually thought it was handled and presented very well.

-โ€ŽI have to question this film's logic, like how the hell does no one see them constantly shrinking & growing. Cars in broad daylight just changing size left & right

Absolutely agree. When they shrunk the lab for the first time, just disappearing a building in broad daylight in the middle of SF, I guffawed out loud at the absurdity of it when they're trying to be incognito. But obviously they just decided to run with doing that to all sorts of things all movie long.

someone29five ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:23:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

they showed a for lease sign after hank shrunk the building so its even weirder that one day a building just appeared in an empty spot between buildings

True_to_you ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:46:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kinda just figured they weren't actually there that long. They probably just set it up right before Scott got there. I was more amazed at how Scott pays for his house in such a prime San Francisco location.

someone29five ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:58:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah i don't understand where Scott gets money because Luis even says their security business is broke. He even offers hope money after hearing about what they went through

69party69 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:40:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe it was part of his plea bargain?

The govt. would definitely want him as a future asset after his sentence was over, considering his expertise with the Pym Particles

fascist___hag ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:02:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

-โ€ŽHow did Janet survive in the Quantum Realm all of those years?

With a smokey eye makeup look intact as well!!

devilslaughters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:29 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She kept some in her emergency kit in her Wasp suit. Then she knew they were coming so she probably has some left over after 30 years of not using makeup and simple surviving in the quantum realm.

the_vince_horror ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:03:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

-โ€ŽI was really worried about the comedy of the film without the foundation of Edgar Wright this time around. I'm happy to say that I had nothing to worry about.

The comedy bits in part 1 had absolutely nothing to do with Edgar Wright. He just helped layout a very brief treatment that Paul Rudd and team still altered.

Lord_Sylveon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:06 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Okay, Michelle is aging supernaturally well. But consider this:

Evangeline Lilly.

I just can't handle how hot she is, and how she's like 300% my type.

ArabianAftershock ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:59:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I went in after hearing this is like a super average marvel movie but that was pretty fun, I liked that a lot more than most of the phase 2 movies at least.

Dunno why some people think this is somehow one of the worst

ace_of_spade_789 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:20:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Trailer made it look bad, however just like the first one it was good but if you remove both antagonists (ghost, and Walter goggins) it doesn't change the central plot or story.

I enjoyed it but after avengers IW I was hoping we might get a villain and not go back to typical marvel fanfare of using the antagonist to push the plot forward.

Mr_Unknown ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 12:04:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Movie is so funny then bam! They open an old wound and pour more salt into it.

rhac21 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:09:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did anyone else see a city in the quantum realm when hank and Janet left or was that me?

bsax007 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:53:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, pretty sure there was a city. Left side of the shot.

itaboranius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:40:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just read an article that mentioned it, glad I can get some confirmation here too. Can't wait to see a still of it because I've seen the movie twice and missed it!

yojoono ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:40:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

God damn, that truth serum scene got me laughing hard.

darkeyes13 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:28:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"It makes you highly suggestible."

"So it's a truth serum."

"It's not a truth serum!"

"If it looks like duck... and sounds like duck..."

That entire sequence was gold.

VRomero32 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:18:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The back and forth and delivery between the actors was spot-on...

mikeweasy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:43:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

HAHAHAHAHA

VRomero32 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:52:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Perfect Palate Cleanser to Infinity War until the mid-credits... Jawdropping, my entire theater gasped

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:21:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What was the second scene??

VRomero32 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:53:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Giant Ant that was posing as his double was doing a drum solo at his house while the emergency broadcast system was on and no one on the streets post Thanos snap...Both funny but bleak

Cybersteel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's like one of those autonomous machines doing about it's daily routine, even after humans dissapeared.

jjjohnson81 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:54:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You didn't miss much. Camera at Scott's house. Drum music. Turns out to be giant ant playing drums.

AsheBnarginDalmasca ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:36:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think we should also list some notable stuff: Static from tv with "State of Emergency," completely no traffic and/or people outside.

Also, I think the shot was in one of the teasers but with a change of tone.

soulsummenor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:53:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

abnerayag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:40:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yea it was pretty inconsequential, much like Thor Ragnarok's with Grandmaster getting out of his wreckage.

mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Trolls

Adv2k169XLplusCats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

second trailer one minute 16 seconds in .

Should have switched mid and final credits scenes. Lame that trailer spoiled it too

Marc815 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:09:04 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My theatre was dead silent after the mid credit scene and I heard some people in confusion, I raised my hand up a little bit a snapped my finger and I heard numerous people go "oh shit! " and it clicked for some people.

Maxa30 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:50:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone else catch Ghosts foreshadowing? โ€œYouโ€™re not the one whoโ€™s about to disappear into thin airโ€ my whole theater erupted into whispers as soon as she said that

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:48:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

the snap duh

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

no, ghost didn't know about thanos. honestly asides from the guardians, thor, and maybe strange, no one knew about the thanos's plan with the snap.

โ€œYouโ€™re not the one whoโ€™s about to disappear into thin airโ€ was just clever wordplay for foreshadowing.

inksmudgedhands ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:02:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I am guessing during his house arrest, Scott watched Dave made a maze to come up with that house maze. I have half a mind to make one myself. That sort of arts and crafts looks like fun.

I love that the writers have not tried to make Scott get back together with his ex-wife. Rather, everyone is fine and healthy with the arrangement. Sonny and Maggie are an extended family to Scott rather than, "This is my ex and her...boyfriend." It gives Cassie a weird but stable foundation. She loves her dad but loves her mom as well. There is no, she is stuck in the middle.

The one problem I had with this movie were a couple of jarring edits. For example, one moment, Scott, Hope and Hank are fighting Ghost and Foster. They beat them and the next moment they are back in the lab. No running out and gunning it in the van. No making sure Foster can't follow them. No making sure Ghost can't follow them. Just a very jarring cut.

What I really did like is how they used the layout of the city fantastically. This story wouldn't have worked in New York or Los Angeles or anywhere else on the planet given the way the car chases went.

TechniChara ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:18:14 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

All the different family dynamics were my favorite part. Those big bear hugs from Sonny were heartwarming! The interactions between Hank, Hope and Antenna-Scott were great! As was the paternal loyalty Foster had for Ava was sweet.

Also, I did not know Randall Park was in this movie. I hope he gets more good roles, the guy is funny!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:49 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Personally Scott-as-Janet felt a little off. Paul Rudd's acting felt like it was straight out of an SNL skit, especially in the beginning, where his voice seemed to take on a more pitchy, almost whiny inflection. And then there was that weird bit where Hank and Antenna-Scott were holding hands and both of them were laughing, but it felt like it was them being out of character and cracking rather than genuine laughter/attraction.

I also really did enjoy Randall Park - for fans of The Office, I also found it funny that his character's name was Jimmy...very fitting.

Nymaz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:23:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The "Jimmy" wasn't completely out of the blue. Jimmy Woo is an FBI agent in the comics.

ykickamoocow111 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:41:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I also love how they made the new boyfriend/husband a good guy who does not seem to have any rivalry with Scott. It is a nice shake up of the very tired trope of the new boyfriend/husband being a dick.

inksmudgedhands ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:09:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love that too. In a way, it helps makes Scott a nice guy because he doesn't have to go through the trope of fighting off the ex's new guy through underhanded means like we've seen in other movies. Scott's biggest and seemingly only flaw is that he is a thief. But he's a thief with a heart of gold. He's the type guy where you wouldn't trust him with your bank account number but you know he would be the greatest babysitter you've ever hired. Your kid would be calling him, "Uncle Scott," in no time.

bjacks12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:13:28 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The family dynamic very much had the same feel as The Santa Clause

NazzerDawk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just so you know, where you wrote "There is no, she is stuck in the middle.", the way I think you were trying to get that across would be to write it like this:

There is no "she is stuck in the middle."

I'm not offering this as a correction, just a suggestion. I had trouble understanding the sentence until I realized that you were meaning that as a quotation.

inksmudgedhands ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:48 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But I am not quoting anyone. Also, if you are using quotations, shouldn't you use a comma before the quotations? Going by your sentence, it should read,

There is no, "she is stuck in the middle."

But even then, it doesn't make any sense because, again, I am not quoting anyone. If there is any correction, the phrase should be italicized, as in, There is no she is stuck in the middle.

NazzerDawk ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:17:28 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Quotations aren't only used when quoting a person, and a comma is only necessary when a pause is needed, like when delineating a list, or transitioning between thoughts relevant to the same sentence.

In this case, the quotation is needed because you are titling a concept that isn't already established.

For example, if referring to the concept of "Chekov's Gun" in a sentence like yours, you would say

There is no Chekov's Gun.

But if we were referring to a new concept, one that doesn't have an established name, or as in your example a storytelling element that doesn't have a distinct agreed-upon name, but exists as a trope nonetheless, I could say something like

This isn't a story of redemption, there is no "change of heart".

Putting it in quotations denotes it as a trope I am referring to rather than the individual event.

It's even more necessary when your example makes no other grammatical sense. You are using "she is stuck in the middle" as a noun, which is appropriate when it is in quotes to show the whole phrase is one thing, the storytelling element of a kid whose parents are fighting amidst a divorce, rather than a part of the sentence. That is different from my "change of heart" example, which can refer to almost the same thing and make grammatical sense (without a comma even).

And no comma is nessecary, because you are referring to "she is stuck in the middle" as a noun. Gramatically speaking, if you replaced it with something else, like "there is no banana", you wouldn't need a comma, because then it becomes "there is no, banana".

To put this in more specific syntactical context, this is a use-mention quotation, one where the quotations gramatically separate the word or phrase as being the object of the rest of the sentence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use%E2%80%93mention_distinction

ImMeltingNow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn you just poasted em

Tvayumat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:35:05 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Brutal

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:27:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I fully expected the mid credits scene to be what it was but I still involuntarily oh shited

VY_Cannabis_Majoris ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:01 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What was it?

smokefan4000 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:35:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You seriously left before it was over?

tyderian ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:53:57 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott gets stuck in the Quantum Realm while Hank, Janet, and Hope get snapped.

buckeye_baker ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:15:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My mom died a few months ago... She loved David Cassidy and when it opened with c'mon get happy all I could hear was her singing that sing to me. So... That was a weird experience during a funny movie. I think I liked the movie? I'll have to try watching it again at some later point.

jtfoxy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:56:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

think of it as a star-lord relationship with your mom, she's still here with you through her favorite music

FogSeeFrank ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:06:39 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry for your loss. Might be your momโ€™s way of enjoying the movie with you, though. Or your way of enjoying with your mom.

InternetDickJuice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:11:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry for your loss

Sneezyowl ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:45:02 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked it so much because it didnโ€™t swing for the fence, it just enjoyed playing the game. Infinity wars was so heavy, great but heavy. This was smaller in scale and stakes which is perfectly fine by me.

ManwithaTan ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 12:23:12 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just saw the film. Kinda love the fact that they don't give a damn what pym particles are limited to now. The film kind of has less of a focus than the first film but still had most of the same charm. Most of the charm comes from Peรฑa being amazing and Lily and Rudd's relationship, which was great to see growing from begrudging to caring and flirting.

Walton Goggins is fucking brilliant despite having a one dimensional character, makes me really hope that Tarantino is using him as Charles Manson for Once Upon A Time In Hollywood (But probably not).

I love how generally the Hope is a better fighter than Scott but she doesn't take the whole picture and in many ways you can tell she needs him around.

Generally the characters are more fleshed out in this film and much more welcoming developed but the plot isn't as strong and confident as the first one.

My issue is how Ghost is fairly underdeveloped. Her plan seemed pretty silly, and I get her brashness but she could've easily been working with Pym to fix herself up. And she's been this way for a long time, so why now? And sure she's not the villain, more so just someone in opposition to the protagonists with superpowers, but they kinda shove her whole backstory in a one-scene exposition dump. The fact that everything got resolved so smoothly and easily is a bit convenient but it did overwhelm the fact that the start of the film struggled to get momentum a bit.

Still, was great, tho I'm gonna have to watch it again to smoothen out the creases. Mid credits scene is what I was looking for.

Edit: Also, I thought they couldn't take off their masks when shrunken down?

fillerink ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:43:40 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When Scott's suit was misbehaving while they were in the school and when he shrunk down to a medium size, (The moment when a school teacher saw him and he escaped while wearing a lost hoodie) his mask was removed. But to think of it, we have never seen any scenes where Scott has removed his mask while being ant sized or smaller.

But Hank and Janet were mask-less in the quantum realm for quite some time. How they could breathe or even survive are questions which would tear apart the entire story.

allmightygriff ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:53:10 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Isn't it just during the shrinking process that they need the mask on? i'm not sure. I think there was a line or two explaining it in the first film.

Ubarlight ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:12:45 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I too wondered how she survived in the quantum realm for so long but maybe when you're that small oxygen and food is no longer important even thought she still aged which indicates metabolism and throws hands up and mutters comic books

Loved the movie, though.

fillerink ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:13:30 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There are theories of how there seems to be a "city" inside the quantum realm. During the scene where Hank and Janet are just standing there and chillin in the quantum realm, you can almost make out a city like structure in the background.

Again, comic books ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

jaydock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:18:24 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I was surprised she had aged, wasnโ€™t sure how they were gonna handle that

ManwithaTan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:34:56 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Its explained in the first film that the suits helmet maintains the brains chemistry somehow so you don't go insane, so taking it off whilst shrunk down can scramble up some eggs.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:28:26 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Wasp's dynamic in the comics with the Avengers, generally speaking, is that of a good leader. She's good in a team environment, helps push others to succeed. That's a good point about the Ant-man\Wasp dynamic. Perhaps she is a strong character but lacks levity when needed.

Sardonnicus ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:40:26 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like how being able to instantly alter the size of things brings sort of a 4th dimension to fighting. It's cool to see how far the writers of this film can push and utilize that new dimension.

cadrina ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:57:56 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did the snap took away half of the ants too?

ObnoxiousGod ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 01:22:09 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was half expecting the ant in the postcredits scene to dust away.

theneighboursdog ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:56:34 on September 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So Doctor Strange viewed some-million views of the future, it probably needed to be one that all three disappeared so that Scott goes through the time-warp?

Le_Euphoric_Genius ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:03:17 on October 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you consider ever single event happening in the universe there are probably trillions of views of the future. The 14 million views are probably the wants relevant to the fight with Thanos.

Cloverfieldstarlord ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:34:21 on December 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost was great. I think this is the first time MCU succeeded in having a truly different and awesome villain.

Even great films like GOTG had a pretty one dimentional villain..

Favorite scene : "Don't laugh.. I will be a great partner!"

LordSwedish ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:14:45 on December 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget about Zemo. He managed to become one of the most dangerous villains in the MCU without powers, just by careful planning.

OrangeNath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:41 on December 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

His plan didn't make any sense, tho. The fact that it worked made civil war stupid

Comrade_Belinski ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:22:17 on December 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just finished the movie. Loved it honestly. The ghost was pretty unique and had depth, a lot of villians in movies tend to just have no reason or really shitty ones.

annihilate123 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 21:10:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott's "GUYS??", is the new "I don't feel feel so good...". for me.

beefytrout ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:56:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Rudd threw the perfect amount of fear into that line.

annihilate123 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:09:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. Had chills when I watched the audience reactions on YouTube, and heard the line again.

super_d991 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 19:00:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The original Ant-Man was such a pleasant surprise. I loved the film so much that Ant-Man quickly became my favorite hero. I was so excited for the sequel that I purchased tickets to the Double Feature Fan Event. As I was watching the first Ant-Man, I remembered how great the characters in the Ant-Man films are. I was filled with excitement knowing that I would soon be able to see the great characters on the big screen again. Needless to say, I had just as much fun with the sequel.

I think my favorite aspect of the Ant-Man films is that they are their own small-scale, (no pun intended) fun adventures. The stakes aren't universal, just an exciting adventure we get to watch our heroes embark on. I enjoy seeing Marvel experiment with unique sub-genres. The first film was a great heist film, and this film is a fun, action-packed chase film. With the film revolving around a chase, we get to see interesting plot points that haven't been explored in previous Marvel films. There wasn't necessarily a villain, but obstacles that blocked our hero's path. It was refreshing to not have the goal of a Marvel film to revolve around destroying a powerful force, but instead rescuing a loved one.

As expected, Ant-Man and the Wasp is a fantastic comedy. There are so many great gags and jokes which make this a fun, lighthearted adventure. The comedy aspect works as a nice refresher to relieve the pain left from Infinity War. All of the characters in this film have unique personalities that all work so harmonious with each other. Paul Rudd and Evangeline Lily have fantastic chemistry. Seeing them work together is an absolute blast. As always, Michael Douglas does fantastic, portraying the wise mentor who still likes to have some fun. Michael Pena and his crew are hilarious, and it's fun to see a group of average guys working with scientists and superheroes.

The film is bright and colorful, the locations are fun, and the costumes and suits look epic. In conclusion, Ant-Man and the Wasp has a unique story which makes for the perfect, fun summer film. The cast is great and they all have wonderful chemistry, which just adds for more fun moments in a small Marvel film, with big heart

Amenumenemana ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 10:24:36 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone else annoyed by how the building should have been heavily damaged a million different times? Like, they broke a car window with it and cgi glass went everywhere.

xhart ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 02:28:18 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

PYM PARTICLES. I AIN'T GOTTA EXPLAIN SHIT.

Tonkarz ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 13:42:10 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well if you smashed a car window on the corner of a building the window would probably lose.

seeingeyegod ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:24:50 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was more annoyed at the fact that everything would have been destroyed and upside down inside the building, but maybe some sort of force field keeps that from happening i dunno.

Greyback_ ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 08:42:40 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was more annoyed at the fact that everything would have been destroyed and upside down inside the building, but maybe some sort of force field keeps that from happening i dunno.

Pym built a transportable building, I think he's smart enough to make sure everything inside is "locked" so it won't budge even if the building is shaken.

tolerantlychaotic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:00 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why you thinkin about it so much?

DuckAbuse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:31:10 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also with the water scene, i kept thinking all the tech would get wet.

JacobBlah ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 22:27:05 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The operative word when one reviews a Marvel Studios film is โ€œjoyโ€. These movies are joyous. They are designed to make you happy. When the obligatory post credit scene ends, the average theater goer invariably walks through the exit door with a big smile on their face, a spring in their step, and a deep rooted feeling in their gut where they are just glad to be alive. Ant-Man & The Wasp may be one of the strongest examples of this peculiar phenomenon.

When it comes to celluloid sagas that comes in many parts, the sequel is often better than the original, and the Ant-Man franchise is no exception. While I was quite fond of the original Ant-Man, AM&TW ultimately turns out to be a funnier, sweeter, more self confident motion picture, and something which I felt no regret whatsoever in spending two hours sitting through.. The characters are better developed than in the first film(Particularly Hank Pym and Hope Van Dyne), the villain has a more interesting motivation for their deeds than Darren Cross did, and the domestic hijinks and family melodrama feel more organic and less cliched. Most importantly, the pseudo-scientific explanation for the mechanics of โ€œPym Particlesโ€ are jettisoned. This time, the weirdness of being able to shrink and grow on command or marshal armies of ants to do your bidding are embraced for what they are, allowing the weird, quirky, wonderful magic of the House of Ideas to take center stage and just do it's thing. In a sentence, Ant-Man & The Wasp is a genuine crowd pleaser.

Marvel Studios makes this all seem so easy, so effortless. Despite yourself, you still want to deduct a couple of star points from your review of something like Ant-Man & The Wasp no matter how good of a time that you're having, because it seems like a magic trick has just been pulled on you, akin to Scott Lang's mastery of close up card tricks. Something this mainstream, something so light and fluffy on the surface and produced for mass consumption can't be THIS kino, can it?

It can, because Ant-Man & The Wasp really is that good. We the public have been spoiled by so much quality superhero films from the likes of Marvel, Christopher Nolan, Brad Bird, and others that we have forgotten how pitiful the genre used to be. Go back twelve years ago and compare AM&TW against something like X-Men: The Last Stand, and tell me which movie is better. Now don't get me wrong, I like the X-Men movies, but compared side by side, it's obvious which movie was made by a committee of money grubbing executives and which was made by people with a genuine desire to entertain their audience.

On the other hand, despite my enthusiasm, I do have to admit that the plot of this movie while enjoyable isn't one of the best things to have ever come out of the House of Ideas. There are certain things about the nature of Pym Particles and the Quantum Realm that still don't make complete sense even going by its own internal logic. There are certain things about the motivations of our heroes that don't make complete sense upon examination either, and there are certain side characters whose motivations seem a bit sketchy as well. These particular characters aren't incomprehensible, they're just not fully realized. In the end, none of it really matters, though, because what AM&TW lacks in cohesion, it more than makes up for in laughter and imagination, two things which we are never in too much supply of.

derpy42 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:45:07 on July 31, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really liked this review, even if I don't agree with it. nice job!

JacobBlah ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:46:27 on July 31, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks! I appreciate your positive words!

KRLKZNTSV ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 20:25:18 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I canโ€™t remember wich movie I heard โ€œGermanyโ€ often than in antman.

HiNoKitsune ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:04:11 on July 27, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You could try Schindler's List

daysoffuturecheese ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:59:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

May we all be blessed to age as well as Michelle Pfieffer... like a fine wine.

johndoe42 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:04:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The One True Catwoman

ireallylikehockey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:05:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Saved by cat litter

Jaebird0388 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 12:38:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Left the movie enjoying it about as much as the first film, which I consider a good thing in that regard. But that mid-credits scene... I knew something was going to happen to that would tie it into Infinity War, but it still came as a shock. So much for all the effort that went into rescuing Janet :(

I do hope that Wong is among the survivors, because I can imagine Scott escaping that quantum realm through magical means, albeit happenstance.

devilslaughters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:03:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah if you watch strange again, the out of body traveling scenes are basically the quantum realm backwards.

TacoCorpTM ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:50:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t think itโ€™s a stretch to say that the Ant-Man movies have far and away the best side characters. Michael Pena and Randall Park were my favorite parts of the movie.

NinjaGuy206 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:32:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Michael Pena is the true hero needed to defeat Thanos, Luis has the gift of gab.

words_words_words_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Luis for Motormouth confirmed.

SockPenguin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Judy Greer and Bobby Cannavale were great too. They all play off Paul Rudd so well.

TacoCorpTM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True, they were underrated as well.

devilslaughters ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:08:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm just glad Judy Greer got some lines in this time.

helenthefroc ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:04:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Solid sequel for sure. My only qualm is the deux ex machina with the mom solving the ghost's molecular phasing.

Other than that, kept it's charm from the first one and distracted me from the devastation of Avengers 3..until I was blind sided at the end.

a-weeb-otaku ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:24:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

was it really a deux ex machina? it was revealed early in the movie that Janet had special powers, able to leave a message with Scott that latter turned out to be the antenna, where she controlled him. then she helped Hank in the quantum realm and explained how she changed (and essentially has powers).

MrMagpie27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Even if itโ€™s not technically deux ex machina itโ€™s still a moment of lazy writing.

ScruffTheJanitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It still was. Here let me touch your head and now you're fixed.

SpiderRealm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:15:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Right?! I was not prepared for that from such a funny and heartfelt movie! D: My heart was once again ripped to pieces!

[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:54:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ANTonio Banderas!

abnerayag ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:38:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ulysses E. GrANT!

zombiereign ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:08:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Felt weird not having a trailer for the next marvel film before this

1337speak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:25:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder how long it's been since, completely forgot since I see so many movies and am so used to the trailers.

zombiereign ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:16:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Black panther had avengers: IW...avengers had ant-man and the wasp. I think thor had black panther. I kinda thought we'd get a tease of captain marvel

Limey_Man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:52 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure Captain Marvel filming just wrapped up today, so the chances of getting a trailer before this movie was very unlikely.

greatness101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think they already came out with an announcement at comic con in San Diego that they weren't even gonna release a teaser for Captain Marvel until towards the end of the year.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My local theater cuts all but one trailer before the movie. What trailers did you guys get? We got Skyscraper. :/

zombiereign ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:56:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The "not X-Men" kids, the adam sandler Dracula cartoon, the nutcracker, a few others

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:53 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Does every theater do different trailers? Y'all got ones my friend out of state didn't.

The_Spaceman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:16 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We had Dumbo, Mission Impossible, The Meg, and one more I'm forgetting the name of..

campelm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:01 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We had one for "The Meg". Most unfortunate naming of a movie. I expect plenty of photoshops involving family guy.

Edit: replied to the wrong comment

wildwalrusaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:06 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Most likely they just aren't ready. Off the top of my head, this is the largest gap between 2 MCU entries since phase 1.

Revived_Bacon ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:31:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I still just think it's funny that Paul Rudd is a superhero.

RogerSterlingsFling ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:39:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If Michael Keaton can be a hero and a villain/slight less hero then all rules are off

coloradoraider ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

this makes no sense. One of Keaton's career defining roles is Batman.

StarfleetCapAsuka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:00:29 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That is what they mean. Before Batman came out, Keaton was one of the most derrided and hated castings for any fictional character. They assumed he would do it goofy and act like Beetlejuice. Pre-Internet, the fan outrage got that level of significant press coverage, "Fans boycott Batman due to Beetle-casting!" Once the film came out, the song was changed and suddenly, he was Batman, but pleeeeenty of people did not see him that way before release.

RogerSterlingsFling ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, you are thinking of Mr Mom

CrashB111 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:07:46 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think Paul Rudd thinks that too, and he shows it in almost every scene as Ant-Man where in-universe Scott just acts like an average Joe thrust into a hero role.

And it is amazing.

Megaman1981 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:31:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I used to think the same thing about Robert Downy Jr. now it's hard not to see him as a superhero.

JeffDenlon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm just glad he is playing Scott Lang instead of Joseph Gordon Levitt as they were the final two choices for the role.

RadiantViper ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:17:53 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely a fun movie but not without issues. It feels like they had one decent villain (Ghost along with the Bill Foster angle) but then they realized they needed more bad guys with cars for action scenes so they added in Walter Goggins. He's fun to watch but his character felt superfluous.

Great gags and set pieces and Paul Rudd/Evangeline Lilly are a killer combo for this type of movie. Some jokes felt like improv didn't land but most were good or better, the stuff with Rudd and Randall Park was hilarious. And it sounds silly but I like how the basic themes were basically just "love your children and help people", that's usually all I require from a superhero movie and some get lost in being EPIC and GRANDSCALE and DARK.

I kind of wish they didn't even have the gut punch after credit scenes but I know it makes sense and will lead into Avengers 4 in a smart way.

JoeyHollywood ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:31:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Walter Coggins was great. But honestly this would have been a great time to have Justin Hammer get out and come back.

Unfortunately Iโ€™m sure after an Oscar Sam Rockwellโ€™s quote is much higher.

Big_Boyd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:30:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s funny, I thought Goggins turned in to a more decent villain than ghost in retrospect

compatrini ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:19:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved him in Justified. Good to see he's still getting roles and in that sense, he was kinda wasted in this movie.

Big_Boyd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's amazing how charismatic he can be while being wasted, but I agree. Ultimately both villains were a bit flat, which I suppose is par for the course on MCU. Darren was more interesting than either one.

the_rooster421 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah Goggins and his crew were overkill. He was great but they seemed unnecessary unless his โ€œbuyerโ€ was someone significant to the MCU. I donโ€™t recall ever finding out who he was working for though. Who wanted Pymโ€™s lab?

TinManOz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:09:28 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My theory is either Hammer or Osborne.

greatness101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:43 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you. I rolled my eyes any time they showed up. They seemed tacked on and unnecessary just to provide more drama. He only mentions "buyers" so I'm guessing the comically villainy reasons to give him a part in the story.

SupremeLeaderSnoke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:53 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Goggin's wanted the lab to resell everything inside. I figured his buyers were just generic baddies and not really some mysterious big villain. He was basically just trying to do the same thing Vulture tried to do in Spider-Man homecoming except with Pym tech, and he had no special suit or a sympathetic backstory.

fizz514 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:49:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So there are too many comments for me to go through them all, but I had a(probably unoriginal) theory. Scott dodged the Snappening by being in the quantum realm. If this is true, it means that Hank and Hope inadvertently killed Janet by rescuing her.

bayonettaisonsteam ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:45:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought he dodged it because he had a 50/50 chance.

fizz514 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:03:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Either scenario could be true, since it's not explicitly stated. It was just a thought I had.

baiacool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

that's a possibility as well. but all the avengers except the 6 original ones were erased, so we could assume that scott would be erased.

JeffDenlon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:08:43 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Rhody and Rocket survived as well

baiacool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:07 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh thatโ€™s right. I donโ€™t think we can consider Rocket a Avenger just yet tho

valeyard89 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:47:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And there's only a 10% chance of that.

gamerholic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah it's a chance thing, everything in existance is whipped out if it was meant to be wiped out by the snap.

Artful_Dodger_42 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:14:01 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My fingers are still crossed that in Ant Man 3, we'll see the Pyms hiding out from the law by living in Legoland, with a subsequent action sequence taking place in it.

kemicode ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:25 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Would absolutely love this but isnโ€™t Lego or at least the Lego movies owned by Warner Brothers? They also did Lego Batman and other DC hero/villain cameos.

shannytyrelle ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:06:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well I had fun, I enjoyed the first one and this was better imo, also I just fucking love Douglas as Hank and the fact heโ€™s a full fledged main character and not a supporting one, like most of the โ€˜big starsโ€™ they tend to put in these movies are.

supersaiyandragons ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:46:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There were so many things I loved about this movie, some of the best jokes in the MCU and great character moments. Overall, it felt more like a comic than a majority of the MCU films did in the sense that it was stupid science and absurd situations as if straight from the pages and into the silver screen. I didn't even mind that the villain and story was simplistic or not even there, it feels like it didn't need to be sophisticated to just have fun.

Also, cool movie detail, when the FBI agent enters the house looking for Scott, if I'm correct, it's always the same camera angle, but with every instance, he loses his patience going to the door. At first he knocks a lot, then suddenly he's kicking the door open by the end of the movie.

Loved it, solid 8.5/10

TrippyZippee ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 13:01:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just saw it. Damn it was much better than expected. It built on the first one and gave more without going tacky full blown. Plus it transitioned nicely from Civil War to a more personal conflict. I am going to forget the post credit happened till next year.

rdardi123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yes to all of this! this was a damn good sequel, just slightly below the first IMO which is totally fine since i loved the first and this one!

shnmchl61 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:19:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So all that "time vortex," talk by Janet in the mid-credits scene - is Ant-Man going to be the key to everything in Avengers 4 then? I know there's been

asmx85 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:51:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yes

EntroperZero ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:59:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

RemindMe! May 3, 2019

Ghidoran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But if he's stuck in the quantum realm and risks going into the vortex, how is he gonna be able to help the heroes in the past since he won't have any knowledge of Thanos?

shnmchl61 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hmmm... idk, just coming up with theories. Maybe he uses it to jump ahead then tells the other Avengers he knows how to use it to go back as well and re-enters it.

arxero ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:42:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ok, Iโ€™m gonna need to see waaaaay more of Janet now. That outfit, the clearly advanced powers, that fucking SPEAR. God damn! That was all way too cool to throw away.

Does she align with any particular character from the comics? (Merged storyline, or something?)

Stein619 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:51:43 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the "spear" is just one of the wings from her suit that got stuck there after all the years in the quantum realm.

zzuxon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:04:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, she's the Wasp. In the comics, Janet Van Dyne is the Wasp, and Hank Pym is Ant-Man. The idea of having them be the older "previous generation" Ant-Man and Wasp was the movie's idea.

arxero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:49 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I know that, but does the โ€œcomicโ€ Wasp ever get quantum powers? The whole persona and character design seemed like they were going for a new โ€œheroโ€ entirely separate from the wasp

tyderian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Back in the 60's her wings were biological but only appeared when she shrunk. She later developed the abilities to fire energy and change her size at will without the use of a suit.

I don't think she has any abilities stemming from the Quantum Realm/Microverse.

imkunu ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:14:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just saw it, loved it. Maybe funnier than the first one.

someone_found_my_acc ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:22:23 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I personally found it to be the funniest marvel movie so far, even more hilarious than thor ragnarok. I think it's because this movie had such a great supporting cast.

maininglucio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Even Evangeline was getting laughs from me

Creepeth ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:10:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Interesting. I found the first one to be a lot funnier. The funniest bits in this sequel for me were related to the "truth serum", especially Kurt(Dave Daltmachian's character). Michael Douglas also had a couple of good quips. But I found the first movie to be hilarious throughout. A&W was sillier throughout, but the humor didn't always land with me.

StrangeSemiticLatin2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:45:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The ants getting eaten by seagulls almost killed me.

friendofelephants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:50 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked both, but I also thought the first one was funnier. There were multiple Luis scenes from the first one that had me cracking up (even how he tells Scott about his gf, mom, and dad). In this one, he mainly had the truth serum scenes that were funny.

Coreyographer ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:19:52 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just saying, if there was another massive alien spaceship appearing on Earth again, testing out a new prototype miniature quantum tunnel probably wouldn't be the best idea.

However, regarding that last credit scene... haunting to say the least. If the quantum realm is a different universe then that sets up a lot of potential story lines (and fight strategies) for IW part 2.

radio-jack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:24:30 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's prolly world ending catastrophies every month in this universe. Stopping all activities every time there's a spaceship across the country would halt all activities indefinitely.

Grokrok ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:17 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's always an alien battle cruiser, or a Corellian death ray, or an intergalactic plague intended to wipe out life on this miserable little planet.

RahulBhatia10 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:31:32 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That final post credit scene is pretty fucking eerie beyond the joke of the drums. Just makes you want to see the post-snap world with morbid curiosity. Can't wait for that in A4

MrSlops ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:36:34 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

At the end of that post credit scene they should have had the ant dissolve into dust as it finished its drum solo...just to really kick the audience in the face with the feels :)

jonsnowme ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:19:53 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kept waiting for that to happen.

Devilo94 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:50:01 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

At the end of the movie I was thinking hmm.. is this the first MCU flims where no one dies in the flim? well aside for possible henchmen and flashbacks until I reached the post credits scene. Oh... Well that explain where is Antman during infinity war.
Overall enjoyed this film.

windowpaintseeker ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:35:08 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

no one dies but its not like the stakes in the movie were super high either but that is a good thing

d_delavega ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:59:53 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But the snap was at the end of the war. Doesn't explain where he was during it.

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:29:21 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He was under house arrest.

jgreg728 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:22 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No I agree with u/d_delavega. It not only failed to explain why he wasn't involved in the Infinity War, the post-credits scene actually added plot holes to that notion. In IW, Black Widow says he can't be called because he's under house arrest, but do you REALLY think - considering the stakes - that Lang would give a damn about house arrest (especially considering how casual his relationship is with Agent Wu every time they're at Lang's house)?? But back to the plot hole I'm talking about, Lang was taken OFF of house arrest in this movie! Which takes place BEFORE IW. So explain to me how Black Widow would have this misinformation about him, even if they cared that much to honor his house arrest.

Hame109 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:01:38 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

His sentencing was 2 year House Arrest, 3 years of Probation.

I mean, its not the greatest reason to not get him involved considered the stakes, but thats why.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:56:40 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He also couldn't even contact Hank and Hope without risking their capture. He only did it through a burner phone in an emergency. It would have been next to impossible for him to contact Captain America. As for why they didn't contact him, it could also be because they didn't want to risk him being sent to prison for 20 years. Black Widow has a soft spot for family, as seen in Age of Ultron with Hawkeye's family. She wouldn't want to risk or be blamed for breaking up Ant Man's family.

chargingblue ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 12:14:30 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hannah John-Kamen was really great at her role. I went from hating her to feeling bad to hating her to feeling bad.

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:38:02 on August 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Surprisingly good movie.

Andrewx72 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:34:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What a great palate cleanser after Infinity War. I thought this would be pretty middle-of-the-road as far as MCU films go but it certainly exceeded my expectations. I especially loved the fact that nobody was more evil than they need to be; all the charactersโ€™ motivations were very easy for me to latch onto. The funniest bit for me was when a medium-sized Ant Man is walking around the elementary school.

leegato ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 09:27:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Me after the mid-credits scene: "THAT'S F***ED UP."

Overall a really fun movie, and I loved that it didn't resort to too many goofy jokes and went for the more clever quips. The heist format was different and focused on three groups after the same thing and one group after one of the three groups. I also have mixed feelings about Ghost; on one hand, I thought the development was enough to make Ghost a character with whom the audience can sympathize, but I also found the backstory to be a bit cliche with just the minimum development to keep the story going.

As an SF native, I liked how this film had way more SF location shots compared to the first one, and that it was able to stand on its own without leaning too much on the rest of the MCU; I def liked the smaller connections to Infinity War, and the post-credits scene was a very interesting and human glimpse into the post-snap world of Infinity War.

gary_greatspace ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 12:46:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Liked that they leaned into the implausible physics of the whole thing instead of trying to keep it grounded.

reallifesexdoll ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:39:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just got off the movie theater, boy that was a good movie

Mathavian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was about to make the joke... but given the username, I can't tell if the typo was actually intended after all.

newtraveler000 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:37:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When the second post credits scene opened up on the emergency broadcast signal I was terrified it would show Cassie trying to get ahold of either of her parents and failing.

Iโ€™ll take the ant joke.

Fearkiller77 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:31:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œAnt man and the Wasp will return?โ€ Will they?!?!?!?

mikeweasy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:59:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes they will

DH2007able ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:35:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or will they?

mikeweasy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:37:37 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes

Bamres ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:25 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm Ron Burgundy?

kurosaki004 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:34:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just saying, wasn't the time vortex idea brought up by Patton Oswalt in his filibuster in Parks and Recreation? The whole Star Wars+MCU crossover?

bayonettaisonsteam ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:44:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loved the little question mark at the very end.

campelm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Total troll, I loved it as well. The entire theater blew up in rage when it came on.

lionnyc ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:29:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I saw this at an AMC in New York. There were 30 minutes of trailers. Why are there so many trailers?

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:49:20 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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SSJVegeter ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:53:05 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Same. I'll be going there from now on.

dafood48 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:08:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™ve noticed that both regal and AMC lately have had ridiculous amount of trailers

oreo-cat- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

OK it's 4:15, what can we go see? Well, there's a 4:00 movie, by the time we get the popcorn we should be good.

csguydn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

20 minutes at AMC down South. They showed an ancient trailer for Alpha that I swear I saw 6 months ago...

JeffDenlon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, they had like 30 mins of trailers in front of the last couple movies I saw. It was really annoying.

Obelisp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I had to watch both the 2d and 3d trailers for mi6

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just get there 20 minutes late. I don't understand why more people don't do this.

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I do.

pittsburghposter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:48 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because with moviepass, you canโ€™t get tickets ahead of time and donโ€™t want to end up sitting in the front row.

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why are there so many trailers?

Because million of people see MCU movies.

Squif-17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m probably in the minority here.

But I fucking love the trailers.

all3nls ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 11:22:46 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie was great! It was light and comedic whilst being extremely entertaining and fun. The plot made sense and the characters were well-built. I gave the movie an 8/10 which i think it deserves. I enjoyed it more than the first Ant-man which i loved. I really hope there is a third Ant-man movie or at least he has a more important role. He and the wasp are my favourite super heroes so obviously i am bias.

Leafs17 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:30:03 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

biased*

reciprocal_space ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

based.

[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 13:12:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That Stan Lee line is now my favorite of his one liners.

KenBac ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:31:49 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I forgot. What did he say?

Adam_Absence ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:39:48 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

something along the lines of "I'm really paying for the 60's now"

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:51:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was delivered more like, "The 60s were fun, but now I'm really paying for them." It was the most random line, I love it.

rdardi123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:06 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

so great! one of his best cameos

grinr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:32:14 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I laughed harder at that line than any other.

MrSpookShire ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:13:47 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone hoping that Scott gets pulled out by a future/older Cassie? Janet mentioned a time vortex so that could be a cool starting to the Infinity War sequel

SLTFATF ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:30:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You might be right. They just cast a 16 year old for the new Cassie Lang.

Elgato01 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:24:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i feel like the quantum realm will be heavily involved in the 4th avengers movie so probably not

Real_goes_wrong ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:51:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I had to explain the Stan Lee cameo to my kids. They didnโ€™t know why having fun in the 60โ€™s would affect someone.

-ImJustSaiyan- ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:19:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was also a meta joke as well as a drug joke, since the 60's were when Stan Lee helped create Ant-Man.

ChaoticReality ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:55 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I also didnt get it. What did he mean?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:54 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

because acid and shrooms can fuck you up down the road and not necessarily in the now

Chillouthavefun ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:10:58 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Another fun movie by Marvel studios. Would of had a better time if the kids sitting next to me would have stopped commenting during the entire film.

BlinkPlays ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:21 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel ya. There was a group of girls by me that kept getting up and leaving back and forth, and they were on their phones the whole time.

FapstoNat5s ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:16:59 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I understand your pain and frustration. I purposefully waited 3 weeks after infinity war to watch it in relative peace and quiet. I had this shit all planned out; 3 weeks of avoiding reddit threads about IW, 3 weeks of reading 0 spoilers, 3 weeks of patience and anticipation. I reserved two tickets with my buddy and chose a theater that had luxury seats that was fully adjustable. I went into the theater expecting that it would be just me and my buddy in our area of the theater but I should have expected some last minute bull shit would happen. This family of 6 must have done last minute reservations and sat ass to ass with me. For the most part they were quiet, and the dad was nice enough to sit in between his kids and me so there was a respectable barrier. Throughout the movie, I kept hearing this noise that would sound like a electronic gear going up and down, but would periodically stop for a short time. I couldn't ignore it any longer and I did a hard glance to where the source of the noise was coming from, lo and behold the kid in the family was fucking going to town on the buttons of his reclining seat, as if he was some kind of fucking bull rider. I wanted to say something to the dad, but my buddy nudged me and whispered that the kid was autistic.

retro808 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:39:52 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I hate when I'm reserving seats on the day I'm going and see that I might be the only one in the theater then I show up and either families and couples are walking in 10 minutes after the movie starts still having their outside conversations as they're finding their seats and blocking the screen with silhouettes or some group of kids/teens who obviously theater hopped as they have no concessions and look lost when coming into the auditorium when it's reserved seating and yet they still have the gall to be disruptive and be on their phones thru the movie because they are just passing time like babysat children instead of enjoying the movie

ZedNathan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:25 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

this reads like a copypasta

thenotoriousFIG ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:43:56 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did the snap kill half the ants in the universe?

ThaneKyrell ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:30:12 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, it was mentioned by the directors in a interview that half of the animals died as well (not to mention insects are the true kings of this world, in number of species, total number and total combined mass, so if Thanos wants resources to last more he should kill as many Arthopods as he can

EagleEyeInTheSky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:07 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Makes no sense why Thanos would spare ants. Ants devour resources too.

warsage ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:17:11 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did any part of what Thanos wanted make any sense?

HiNoKitsune ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:25 on July 27, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Animals kinda *are * resources though. Thanos is just a giant Idiot.

Urge_Reddit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:19:41 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's not an idiot, he's actually incredibly intelligent.

He is however completely insane.

Megavore97 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:54:08 on July 28, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's exactly what someone who's out of balance would say.

AlaskanSamsquanch ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:11:51 on September 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Canโ€™t wait to see what powers he gets from the quantum realm if any. At least we know heโ€™ll be involved in the time travel fuckery that is to come.

Lunatic_Heretic ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:24:53 on October 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

def not as good as the first one but still entertaining tho the plot plodded along a bit for me - enjoyed the humor. one question about ghost: when she's not in her special suit, she can't control her "power" so how the F does she stand on the ground? logically she would pass right through the earth (esp when she first became ghost as a child)

havok0159 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:24:51 on October 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Since it wasn't addressed in the movie you just have to accept it as it is, sci-fi has had that phasing through the ground issue forever and it's almost never talked about. Same with how can an invisible person see.

Lunatic_Heretic ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:23:57 on October 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

fair enough. I can suspend disbelief for that because actually what I found even more unbelievable was that Bill Foster was apparently teaching an advanced (probably PhD-level) quantum mechanics course that had at least 50students in it AND most of them were women.

utopista114 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:31:43 on October 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because it was a course on comic-book "physics" part of the Gender Studies major to be analyzed under the Judith Butler paradigm, duh.

mabolle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:38 on November 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Apart from the fact that everything coming out of his mouth was comic-book scifi nonsense, that looked like an undergrad physics class to me. Half of my friends at uni were female physics students. Their classes were pretty big, at least in the first couple years of the program.

Backflip_into_a_star ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:11:03 on October 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not even Wormhole X-treme could figure it out. https://youtu.be/hstdINH9Lk0

Surfer949 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:27:00 on October 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As a children's Marvel hero movie great! for adults so-so. I did enjoy the lighter tone of this movie but got bored of it toward the middle then it picked up at the end. The first one was way better, with a more focused story and a true villain. I really hate it when there are no real antagonists, especially in a super hero movie. Ending was cool but really how many more super hero movies can I watch??

Overall 7 out 10 score.

UpperHesse ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:39:51 on October 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Next to Cap the Ant-Man movies are my favorite standalone Marvel movies. I liked the sequel a lot, but my only criticism was that there was not a real villain. I have no qualms with Ava, but she was more of a tragic hero. However, if you have a Walton Goggins in your movie you should not underuse him. He should have been the main villain, and his character was too comical. I like that the Ant-Man movies generally have a lighter tone, but still they made Cross a menacing figure like when he turns that guy to goo in the beginning.

JeffDenlon ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 08:11:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm in love with Evangeline Lily. She is gorgeous and everything she did in this movie was awesome. You could tell she was having the time of her life playing this character in the movie. Her character was so good that if I had to pick, I'd rather see get her own movie than Black Widow.

Mental_Caregiver ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:34:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed wholeheartedly, she seemed to get the most development of all the characters (well besides Hank). Her character was really fleshed out this movie, she did a really great job portraying these changes.

Adv2k169XLplusCats ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:22:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked her allot more in this movie . She seemed so cold and distant in the first one .

AquaZippah ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:31:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's because of the haircut, she was all business

devilslaughters ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:02:49 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I still die to that line.

Gerard54321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

loved her in TheHurtLocker

cracked_mud ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 02:03:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm honestly surprised to see reactions are mixed. This is probably the most enjoyable Marvel movie I've seen. Sure, it's not all that deep but pretty much EVERY joke hit for me. I think people need to understand that it's an action-comedy, it's not supposed to be super dramatic. Great tonal shift from the downer that was Infinity War.

fancyfrenchtoilet ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:32:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked it a lot too, but then I'm very sick of the grimdark, self-serious tone of the Avengers franchise, and with nearly every other Marvel movie trying to match that tone it's great to have a movie like Ant-Man & The Wasp to break up the monotony. There's nothing wrong with being a fun action movie,

I think the way the story rolled out was markedly less tense than the usual Marvel movie. In fact, thinking back, AMW was kind of a subversion of the Marvel formula in that there wasn't really a sudden escalation of danger at any point, and the villain wasn't motivated by greed/sociopathy.

Something else I fucking loved: I could actually tell what was happening during the fight scenes! And they were good! Really inventive and interesting to watch! So many movies use that stupid shaky-cam effect anymore that I'd just gotten used to not being able to parse fight scenes, used to them being a confusing blur of action where the cause & effect is never quite clear.

NazzerDawk ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:39:52 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really didn't feel like any of the Avengers films were anything close to self-serious or grimdark. Even at their darkest, the characters are quipping constantly.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:21:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I haven't seen any DC movies but I've seen lots of different analysis on them and it seems that they went super dark, like with BvS to maybe try to give their franchise more purchase, but when that didn't work they tried to furiously bail themselves out with JL, which seemed a lot lighter and had a lot less weight behind it/the characters.

On the other hand, Marvel movies deal with those self-serious/grimdark subject matters, but they don't let that weigh down the movies. Sometimes that does reflect on the overall tone, like with a darker film like IW where it's more appropriate, but they can also turn it around and make the tone slightly lighter and less heavy to balance it out the idea and the tone, like with the Guardians films.

And the quipping thing - yeah, it's a pretty sharp juxtaposition to, you know, half the universe dying, which probably isn't always the best choice tonally, but it's how the characters react and cope to new environments and new situations. So while the quipping doesn't work everywhere, I think we sometimes have to see the situation from the characters' POV, where the world is ending and these super-powered strangers are suddenly dropping out of the sky and really the only option for them is to turn to their defensive default, which is joking/quipping to cope and make themselves feel better and to show their colors.

NazzerDawk ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:24:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just a note, I actually like the quipping. It is part of Marvel's DNA, really.

Dooperer1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:06 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think people mostly only remember the last like five or ten minutes of infinity war, and get that confused with the rest of the movie (Thanos + Gamora scenes not withstanding)

Cynical-Sam ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:44:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Liked it for sure, I think most people did. My only real problem with it was Janet just randomly having the power to heal ghost. That could have been setup better

Pun-Master-General ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:56:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think it was terribly random. Ghost's whole plan hinged on Janet having absorbed enough "quantum energy" to stabilize her. She just had a different delivery method in mind.

Obelisp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:31:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She said the quantum realm changed her. Isn't that clear enough?

Bamres ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:18 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That felt like such a cheap way to do it. Like even bill says she's a brilliant scientist who could help her but instead of using her mental abilities a simple touch fixes her? Coulda shown a small scene of her calibrating the machine or some shit.

alienatedesire ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:04:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That wasn't the issue at all. The story and villain lacked big time.

NazzerDawk ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:41:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe because you wanted a villain, and instead you got a more grey antagonist instead?

toastycheeze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:46 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think we got a white antagonist actually, although a grey suit might look cooler.

dafood48 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:12:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I disagree. I enjoyed the story, which was very low key and didnโ€™t involve the cliched save the world trope.

I also liked that the supervillain wasnโ€™t really a bad person and had a real motive to their actions.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:15 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, Marvel has departed from the normalized idea of a big baddie and have had some more in-depth villains for the past few movies. Killmonger actually had a point, he just had terrible execution. And Thanos (don't get me wrong, he's a terrible guy) had a pretty compelling backstory, and if what I heard was correct, he's actually the main character of IW, which is an interesting take on the normal villain formula. Ghost was a little more iffy: yes, she did have a hashed-out motive to her actions, but apart from looking a little creepy she never felt truly dangerous. Even though Janet's life was on the line with Ghost's plan, it always felt like they would find some way around it, which they did. So while Ghost didn't carry a ton of weight as a villain, I can see her returning on the other side as another stealthy Black Widow-type, as her phasing power is gone.

And I like that this movie didn't involve the "cliched save the world trope." It felt very personal, and after the massive ordeal that was IW, it was nice to see a smaller scale, close-to-home movie like this where characters weren't racing to save the world but to save themselves and/or someone they loved.

jim25y ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:01:02 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The movie didn't have a villain. Even Walter Goggins wasn't a villain. This was an adventure comedy where you had three parties after the same mcguffin for 3 different reasons. They all had valid reasons and while they had different levels of mortality, none of them were truly a villain.

lazylion_ca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I had to remind myself that it's a comic book when I was watching the second Guardians of the Galaxy movie. The scene near the beginning where Rocket takes on a whole troop of bad guys was completely ridiculous.

cracked_mud ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:47:48 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Personally I'm glad that they are varying up the tone (at least a little). Having all the movies be carbon copies of each other was getting boring. It's nice to have some serious movies like the last 2 Captain America movies and also some comedies like the most recent Thor and Ant Man. I mean, let's be honest, the entire concept of Ant Man is ridiculous so I don't even know how you could make it super serious if you wanted.

lazylion_ca ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:26:28 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of the Iron Man movies were pretty funny. I think it's mostly the Avengers movies that get the serious tone.

RATMRJ ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:11:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Luisโ€™ suit is the One Punch Man suit, I swear.

captainsuckass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What?

69party69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:02:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He punches people once and they get KO'd

P1NR ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:27:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The movie needed more of Luis on "truth serum"/explaining things (where is Scott Lang)

Mental_Caregiver ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 13:29:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

After the rush of elation I got from my initial viewing, just going to recap my thoughts on the movie:

-Certainly a change of pace compared to IW, but it was needed. The comedy was pretty expected for a Marvel movie, some didn't like it, I certainly enjoyed it, but just my opinion.

-Ghost was definitely an upgrade over Darren Cross, just much more understandable motivations. She just wants to stay alive. Though I can't help but wonder, did Bill Foster really resent Hank to the point where he was willing to fight against him and possibly kill Janet? (until he realizes the consequences of that later) Couldn't he have put aside his differences with him to save Ghost? I mean, it still worked out, but that kind of bugged me.

-FBI with Randall Park was good comedy relief.

-Sonny Birch was a bit over the top and clichรฉ for an antagonist, but he served his purpose.

-I wish we got to see just a few more Wasp action scenes, the ones we had were fabulous.

-Speaking of which, I was really pleased with where they took Hope's character this movie. Still cool as a cucumber, but a lot more personable and compassionate when the time comes. I smiled every time she and Scott interacted with one another, and the buildup towards her meeting her mother was great.

-Hot Wheels car. Ah childhood...

-Again, Michael Peรฑa is a national treasure.

-Paul Rudd really nailed his scenes, especially when Janet was channeling herself through Scott. Just superb acting.

-I enjoyed seeing the asshole side of Hank we saw in the comics, but glad they didn't overdo it.

-Janet healing Ghost felt like a cop out, given how Hank just told Foster "we'll find a way" a few minutes prior, as if there was no other feasible solution other than Ghost utilizing the quantum energy.

-I was surprised that Janet actually seemed to age in the quantum realm, given how Hank distinctly stated that it ignores (or can at least alter) the fabric of time and space.

-Is this movie foreshadowing Cassie eventually becoming Scott partner in A4 if he somehow travels to the future via time vortex? She likely wasn't dusted, so I'm guessing she was just out of the house at the time of the snap.

-If they go the route of the time vortex, maybe Scott will encounter some ripples within the space-time continuum, given all of Dr. Strange's time loops and how "the bill always come due".

-I really wish just one of the Pyms survived that snap, either just for Scott's reaction once the one remaining pulls him out to a sea of dust, or they could have both Wasp and him trapped in the quantum realm. Scott may end up more traumatized than Stark and Cap. What a thought.

-The post credits scene left me shook, with the ominous silence of the house, the ant going through Scott's routine, unaware of the chaos around him, and the television showing the state of emergency. I brushed it off on my first viewing, but now I definitely appreciate the way it was able to convey the gravity of the situation at hand.

Overall, a good, light-headed, comedic movie that was definitely needed after IW, with a nice callback in mid credits scene to remind us of the state of the remainder of the MCU. 9.2/10 for me.

EDIT: Just noticed Wasp is confirmed for Avengers 4, surely it can't just be flashbacks right?

21tcook ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:40:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

everyone that was dusted is going to come back in Avengers 4, Wasp included

Mental_Caregiver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Still find it a bit odd Marvel would already confirm her for A4 given the mid credit scene. Even if we know she's 99.99% coming back, I thought they would try to keep us on our toes in regards to her fate. Oh well, the confirmation will at least make the next 8 months a bit more tolerable.

21tcook ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, arenโ€™t like Sebastian Stan, Tom Holland, Elizabeth Olson etc., all confirmed too?

Mental_Caregiver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True, I suppose it's at least one less thing to worry about for a while.

Edit: But idk, I felt like it kind of detracted from the Ant Man and the Wasp will return? text the movie used at the end.

Papatheodorou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:07 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They're probably all trapped in the Soul Stone. Maybe halfway through the movie we get a scene with them (once the people "left alive" realize there's a chance). Would be interesting to see Pym and Strange try to find a way out

navjot94 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:42:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In regards to Wasp in A4 - If they go to the future, maybe the Wasp is Cassie? But I think we'll see the dusted folks in some spirit realm so that's where we could see Hope.

lionnyc ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:48:14 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do you want to get dinner?

empurrfekt ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:36:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just so I'm not missing something, Hank and Hope are only fugitives because Scott used their technology when helping Cap?

OscarMiguelRamirez ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:21:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That, and they wouldn't sign the accords and hand over their tech.

Cynical-Sam ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:41:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah basically

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:41:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think they didn't want to adhere to the accords as well. Same as Cap, Falcon, etc.

CrashB111 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:51:47 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank is pretty adamant about nobody getting their hands on his tech, no matter the cost.

It drove him to leave S.H.I.E.L.D. and it drove him to do the events of the first Ant-Man.

Makes sense he would hate the Sokovia Accords as well.

Link2Sora ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:03:24 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was great. The comedy is on point, the action is great. The effects are great. I loved Hank's hot box car box. I love that they continued with Paxton and Maggie support Scott, especially with so many shows and movies when someone does something along the general concept Scott did in Ant-man they'll just ignore it the next week. I though the scene of Scott and Cassie playing together was adorable and wanted to go down that slide myself. The Don't laugh Scene from Cassie broke me. I knew someone was going to get dusted in the end credit scene after Infinity War came out I just didn't expect it to be Hope, Hank and Janet.

The only thing I really want in the third movie, is for them to deal with the loose ends like Mitchell Carson the Hydra agent who stole the Pym Particles and whoever Sonny's buyer was.

I really hope Michael Douglas get's his Ant-man prequel. As long as they use the other characters who should be around during that time period.

Possible Spoilers

I know that there is a rumor that Emma Fuhrmann will play an older Cassie in Avengers 4, that's fine, I know that we will apparently be going into the future in Avengers 4 so it makes since. But I really hope that they wait till Abby Ryder Fortson is a little older before they do an Young Avengers movie and her stay as Cassie / Stature.

SilverKry ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:05:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sonnys buyer was probably just Hammer.

Stay_Medium ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:26:56 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™d love that. Sam Rockwell is awesome.

joshmoxey ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:19:46 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loved that "don't laugh" scene too. So freaking adorable.

JeffDenlon ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:04:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder how long Scott will be in the Quantum Realm before someone gets him out.

I have a feeling Avengers 4 might take place a few years after Infinity War.

Zer0Fucks2Give ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:35:46 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My operating theory is that he goes into a "time vortex" that Janet mentioned in the post-credits scene. It would also explain why (**'SPOILERS' for Avengers 4 I guess??**)>! Ant-man was photographed on set in a recreation of the Battle of New York in Avengers 1, apparently !<(**END**)

varro-reatinus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:06:14 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh so he goes back and undoes everything.

oreo-cat- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:16:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If Ghost is still around, not too long. Or his ex or daughter.

Bomber131313 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:24:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have a feeling Avengers 4 might take place a few years after Infinity War.

I don't think so, my guess it starts right up were IW left off and it's done in a couple days.

SlumberCat ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:42:03 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who else thought the post credits scene would be Cassie disintegrating?

Split_InfinityDarlin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:56:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Please don't toy with my heart.

Ser_Danksalot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:24:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd heard the casting rumours beforehand for an older Cassie in a A4 so wasn't surprised.

Nollasta_poikkeava ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:19:16 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was nothing special, but I had fun time with likeable characters. Exactly what I expected and hoped for.

DetectiveWood ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:26:20 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pena is underused in the MCU. He needs crossovers. Rudd was amazing, as always. Wish the romance with him and Hope stared earlier in the film but I can't complain, it had me smiling like a little boy the whole time. Lilly has a smile that can make me forget about everything. Honestly wanted more Douglas, odd because I think everyone had a fair amount of screen time. My only complaint is the switching between scenes. It either needed more music or a notice or my theater was dead. Other than that, no complaints. Solid MCU movie. My top are still IW, WS, and CW. I just hold the Russo Brothers to a higher standard but I think Paul Rudd brings a different comedy that I love.

varro-reatinus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:54:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pena is underused, full stop.

marwynn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:50:02 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's also a Scientologist.

ethicalhamjimmies ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:40:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This was such a fucking bummer to me when I found it out

varro-reatinus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:41:24 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sadly, yes.

I wish to hell he wasn't, but with time, perhaps...

DetectiveWood ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:16:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the MCU. Finishes reading.

YoBuckStopsHere ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:11:06 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When Scott was in the school and the music changed to the more childlike theme I about fell over laughing.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

haha i loved Christophe Beck's score! and that was very funny, gave me video game vibes!

cinematicdanus ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:06:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have a feeling Luis will be the one who'll save Scott then narrates how people disintegrated

Bean888 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:17:14 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have a feeling Luis will be the one who'll save Scott then narrates how people disintegrated

Luis will save Scott emotionally or literally?

99213 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:07:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Porque no los dos?

cinematicdanus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

emotionally. via truth serum

ferd_draws ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:41:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was thinking how the World's Best Grandma was just a throwaway line but assuming Scott and Hope get hitched, wouldn't Janet being in his body make it literal to Cassie in relation her? Stepgrandma, but still.

Lionwolfe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The story reason for that would be that Janet is just too nice and too quantum-skilled to show herself in any interactions that aren't necessary contact, especially when Scottie was with Cassie.

The technical reason would be that it would be too weird for Marvel to do it in a kid-friendly family movie.

RicDan ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:20:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I am a big Paul Rudd fan but man did Pena steal the movie.

inksmudgedhands ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:52:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Luis' flashback stories are my favorite part of this series. I wish we had more of them.

19Styx6 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:41:23 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pena is so fucking funny in both this and the first, I get disappointed when he plays a non-funny character like in The Martian.

Lionwolfe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:25 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Totally agree. Pena stole (or tried to steal) every scene he was in. And his flashbacks were brilliant.

Nomnomnum ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:24:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I heard that it was said the Black Widow pointed out in Infinity war that Ant-man was on house arrest. Could it be possible that the avengers at one point tried to contact Ant-Man but since he destroyed his flip phone after he made the call and voicemail to Pym they couldn't reach him?

whereismymind86 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:56:43 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

it certainly implies that they thought about it.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:23 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't this movie occur well before Infinity War?

madeinitaly1519 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:35:34 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, it is happening right before/during

Mddcat04 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:58:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The bulk of it (everything before the post-credits scene) has gotta be at least a few weeks before. Given that Hank and Janet had enough time to go hang out on that beach and then build a miniaturized quantum portal thing.

evelynneedscoffee ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:25:42 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Looks like someone didnโ€™t stay for the ending credit scene haha

backfire97 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:25:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

while i think it's safe to assume that the movie and ending scene happened at most a few days apart, it could just as well have been a week or more

simmer_tomato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:40:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, Scott celebrates the end of his house arrest. Then Scott goes to work and Luis shares the news of getting the big account. Then Hank and Janet first had to relocate their house. Then the redesigning the quantum lab thing to have a field test done in the back of a van.

backfire97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wasn't thinking about everything when i wrote my comment (was mostly thinking about the redesigned quantum tunnel), but I think its safe to say that at least a week passed by because of those things you listed

simmer_tomato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:53:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank and Janet reunited after 30 years apart so you think they'd take some time off to...you know...reconnect.

innocent hand emojis that combined represent coitus winkyface

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:48 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I did, but that seemed like it was a while after the events of the movie...

evelynneedscoffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:22 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I was under the impression that it was close after since Janet was giving Scott instructions as if it were his first time going into the Quantum Realm to get energy to help heal Ghost. Had a lot of time lapsed, then it would have been a more regular routine and Scott wouldn't have needed instructions.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:35 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ehh maybe. Seemed more just like a reminder of the instructions tho. Which would make sense since it's dangerous shit.

I mean, they had enough time to make a portable quantum tunnel.

xXTheCitrusReaperXx ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:48:20 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

WHAT IF CAPTAIN MARVEL IS IN THE QUANTUM REALM

whereismymind86 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:51:20 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

that might make sense, but I think its been established she's currently on the Kree homeworld (Skrull if they could get the rights in time)

Highcalibur10 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:53:53 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

but I think its been established she's currently on the Kree homeworld

Where has this been established?

She's clearly going to learn/get powers from the Kree (Jude Law's Mar'Vell) but beyond that I don't remember seeing a confirmation of where she is/why she isn't present in the current timeline. That and the likely lack of aging between the 90's set Captain Marvel and the modern day MCU are also questions that have yet to be answered.

Skrulls are confirmed to be in the movie, with the Super Skrull being the thing up in the air.

GyantSpyder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:20:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought the idea was she was in stasis somewhere where Thanos can't find her. Because if you stay perfectly still, you become invisible.

aresef ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:22:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Movie kinda stops cold for Ghostโ€™s backstory and we never really get a sense of Sonnyโ€™s motivations.

But this was a fun low-stakes romp. Michael Pena was clearly having a good time. Loved the defective suit bit and the dynamic way size played into fights. Didnโ€™t like the way shrinking was played like a WHOOPS NOW YOU CANโ€™T SEE ME.

That credits scene, though. First, whoa. Second, the โ€œtime vortexโ€ line, does that play into the time travel hinted at in photos and casting for the next Avengers?

Knary50 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:42:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sonny motivation was pretty clear. He was looking at a billion dollar sale as quantum energy was the next big thing and it was assumed the Hank and Hope were working towards it or at least had the most advanced tech he could sell to his buyer/investor.

novanada ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:30:34 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved this. I just clearly love the Ant man character and movies. I'm just not getting why some consider this so much inferior than equally comedic stuff like Ragnarok.

devw94 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:50:28 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s bechas

Vorcana ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:08:06 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Appy Ryder Fortson is probably the most impressive child actor or actress I can remember off the top of my head.

Grokrok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:36 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Isabella from Sicario is a pretty amazing Child actress. Both dazzled in their characters.

RahulBhatia10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:32 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah she was amazing. can't wait to see her in other projects

RelevantField ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:32:34 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This was honestly better than I was expecting it to be. Sure, it wasn't anything great, but a smaller-scale Marvel movie was nice to see after Infinity War. I personally enjoyed it even more than the first film.

The action was great and all of the jokes landed for the most part which isn't something that can be said about most Marvel movies. Story was decent and I was actually surprised at just how good of a villian Ghost was. After this, Black Panther, and Infinity War, I think Marvel might finally have writing villians down.

As far as my complaints, there was some noticably choppy editing in more than a few scenes where the transition between them felt almost non-existent. I also wish they had done more with Walton Goggins character.

Overall, 7.5/10 for me. It's not one of the best MCU movies, but it's a fun ride and one of the better films I've seen this summer.

ToFat2Run ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:30:09 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's a really nice transition after watching IW you know, but damn that post credit scene got my whole theater like "woah wtf".

mrason ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:18:45 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

John Wick 3: True lies

Megavore97 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:46:05 on July 28, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

B A B A Y A G A

TantumErgo ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:28:13 on August 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good fun, and I laughed a lot. Kind of endless โ€œoh no, but now...โ€ which must have gone a little too far because I stopped and noticed. Interesting how they chose to mostly parallel Antman with Janet more than Hank, although a rare kind of subtle moment in sandwiching setting up Hope to go in/Antman telling Cassy she would be amazing but heโ€™d be a terrible father if he let her/Hank insisting he be allowed to go after Janet himself.

A few missed opportunities, I thought.

There was a really ridiculous โ€œas you know, your father, the king...โ€ exposition at the beginning and I kept expecting the ridiculousness to be acknowledged and kicked into something more interesting, but no they just literally explained to each other what their motives for the last two years had been, and how they knew each other, and nobody onscreen seemed to find it odd.

And I thought for quite a while they were doing a kind of interesting beat-the-clock thing because theyโ€™d mentioned being back by lunchtime, and we got lots of subtle time cues (the X-cons eating breakfast, Cassyโ€™s school having morning recess), and I liked the idea of the entire adventure being fitted into a morning. But then it was suddenly night and we had much more time than I thought.

But I did enjoy the awkward banter.

ALSO the science consultant has the best name, and therefore I assume the best life. And I wonder what the small team of illustrators were for?

CardstoneViewer ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:04:59 on October 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty fun movie, the cast was very good, but the dialog felt little bit repetitive sometimes. The important thing in here was to set the existence of a bunch of things for future movies.

What looked like a city in the Quantum Realm, the existence of the time vortex and maybe a civilization there?

One thing that I don't understand was why did they need to send Scott using the machine, didn't he go there and got back just using the suit in the first movie?

I wonder if someone will save him on the next movie or if he'll just figure a way to get out. There's some talk of the next movie being 5 years into the future, it'll be pretty sad if he gets stuck there all that time, even more if he loses his daughter either to the snap or just not seeing her grow up.

AllTheRowboats93 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:54:54 on October 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think him being in the quantum realm will factor into The Avengers defeating Thanos in the new Avengers

Convergentshave ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:38:27 on October 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yea. I bought it was already confirmed that he appears in the next Avengers.

RazeSpear ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:01:46 on November 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One thing that I don't understand was why did they need to send Scott using the machine, didn't he go there and got back just using the suit in the first movie?

If I remember correctly, the first time Scott was in the Quantum Realm he seemingly began losing his grasp on reality and the passage of time. He had to hear Cassie's voice to regain focus.

If the machine can pull him out, then that's probably advantageous.

asianorange ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 04:46:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Evangeline Lilly was amazing and I'm glad that she got to shine as the Wasp in this one. The action sequence at the end with her was phenomenal.

Sisiwakanamaru ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:48:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, she is one of the highlights in this movie.

Viney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's almost her movie. She carried the action and it's her story basically.

UNAMANZANA ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 23:13:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I saw that IGN just posted an article called, "Ant-Man and the Wasp End Credits Explained."

I know that this is just a click-baity trend, but Jesus, NOTHING NEEDS EXPLAINING

GomuGomu_no_Keyblade ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:41:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly if you didnโ€™t see infinity war it needs a lot of explaining. Not sure why someone wouldnโ€™t see infinity war, but there are dozens of them out there.

theworfosaur ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 00:36:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was surprised to see Jim Halpert with such a prominent role. I knew he was joining the CIA and going to the Middle East, but it was nice to see some of his early work at the FBI after Dunder Mifflin.

Rxasaurus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you!!! I was trying to figure out where I have seen him before.

great9rejects ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 11:42:02 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The perfect pallet cleanser after the spectacle that was Infinity War. Almost all other studios would just make another bigger movie but the MCU decides to let the audience breath with some silly puns and Paul Rudd doing his shtick which will never get old. Really solid movie.

Also that mid credits scene got a collective reaction of Ohhhh, Fuck from the audience.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:37:01 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Came her to say exactly all this.

KandarpBhatt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:55:06 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude YES. It was just me, my Pops and one other guy in the theater last night, but when that happened I went "OH MY FUCK" and my Dad (memory problems) went "Wait, what? What's the big deal?"

Had to explain it to him afterwards but I rarely make big exclamations like that in movie theaters.

nomii ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:26:20 on July 31, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How is Ant Man affording an incredibly expensive house in San Francisco and sending his daughter to a nice school etc, without having a job for 2 years? Real estate in the bay area isn't affordable.

Totally unrealistic.

Contra-dick-tor ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:07:21 on August 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

didnt he say he was working the security job from home? he was the expert, and his partner brought him the specs to see

SparksMKII ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:56:41 on July 31, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Of all the unrealistic shit that happens in the Ant Man movies these things are the only things you have beef with? xD

TheKingOfGhana ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:10:00 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hoeslty yeah. 2 story in SF proper. Gtfo

essebes18 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:16:40 on August 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just assumed his ex-wife was providing most of that.

ruddscumberbitch ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:49:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loooove that scene when scott being half-sized lol suuuper hilarious!

fil42skidoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:55:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And the music changed to suit his new size too. Great scene.

ruddscumberbitch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:37 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And when scott stepped on the stairs effortfully hahah! Iโ€™m legit laughing

IThinkILikeYou ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:19:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I absolutely loved it. Everyone had great chemistry, especially Rudd and Lily. Even Lily and Peรฑa in the small screen time they had together. Ghost was a great โ€œvillainโ€, for lack of a better term, and that mid credits scene was a good connection to Infinity War.

My biggest complaint about the movie is a small nitpick about Scott being completely clueless about all the tech talk. Wasnโ€™t it established in the first movie he had a Masters in engineering? He should probably not be having so much trouble keeping up.

Great movie, enjoyed it almost as much as Infinity War.

CaptainLevram ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:40:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was really good. I think Hope and Scott had a good relationship that didn't feel forced and I thought that the humor was great. It is a SOLID movie and I do not think it deserves less than a 75-80% rating. Super cute too :)

thatburgerdan ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:11:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Underrated favorite part of the movie was the mini reunion of The Shield (not S.H.I.E.L.D.) cast with Shane Vendrell (Goggins) and Army Renta (Pena) sharing some screentime/banter.

Altephor1 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:57:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A solid contribution from Ant Man again. I feel like they could have done more with Ghost, but I was satisfied. Glad that Pena got to do one scene with the fast-talking story boarding type thing.

Seal412 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She'll probably pop up again in the MCU like the Winter Soldier

CrazyMonkey0425 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:04:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

People talking about how marvel blew it with the villains again. And I could see that with Sonny maybe, but Ghost? I thought she was done pretty well all things considered. Wouldโ€™ve liked a little more fleshing out but overall Iโ€™d say sheโ€™s on the better list of marvel villains. I actually liked that Bill became this voice of reason for her in the end.

Yuokes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean can you even call her a villain? She literally was just terrified of being phased out.

TransposableElements ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

she's an antagonist but not a villain

Mr-Chewy-Biteums ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Would you say that she was an ANT-agonist?

Thank you

CrazyMonkey0425 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:56:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well she was willing to kill an innocent person without their consent so she could live. Also her path to Janet led to people getting hurt. But sheโ€™s redeemable in the fact that she hasnโ€™t killed any innocent people yet. I guess she killed that FBI guy when he was defenseless tho. I mean heโ€™s not innocent or anything but he didnโ€™t deserve to die.

Killamajig ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:15:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did Scott get โ€œluckyโ€ or does the snap not reach the quantum realm?

Sprainssuck ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:28:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty sure he got lucky. His daughter might not be as lucky though....

thebreak22 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:37:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm guessing she's fine, since an older actress will play teenage Cassie in Avengers 4.

SanityPills ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:24:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was thinking about exactly this on the drive home. I'm thinking maybe this is why Strange didn't just immediately hand over the Time Stone to Thanos if he knew how it was all going to end. I think he had to stall for time to make sure Scott would be in the Quantum realm during the snap.

Darth_Rellik85 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:26:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was wondering the same thing.

Lean_Mean_Threonine ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:04:04 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, stuck in the quantum realm for 30 years, then banished to the soul stone (or where ever) by Thanos. Never thought I'd say this, but it sucks to be michelle pfeiffer lol

spiralnotebook ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:38:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So what did Janet do in the quantum realm all these years? What did she eat? Where did she sleep? How did she poop? Is she even human anymore (with her E.T. healing hands)?

Did Paul Rudd ever prank Conan for this movie? Itโ€™s literally all I ever want when a Rudd leading movie comes out.

Shenanigamer ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:06:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would need to watch it again but I would swear I saw what looked like a city in the background of the Quantum Realm when they were leaving.

fooflam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:07:06 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ditto...almost looked like it was in a bubble or something.

campelm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:38 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I saw it as well

Bolthead44 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:50:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How did she get eye makeup? My wife said this immediately after Janet took off her mask.

spiralnotebook ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:11:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s a problem with all movies. Everyone wakes up with perfect makeup. Itโ€™s her โ€œquantum abilities.โ€

modifieddevice ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:47:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

probably survived in the Microverse,now bring on Marvels version of the Micronauts and Baron Karza

SupremeLeaderSnoke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Im curious why there are tardigrades in the quantum realm. They are small lifeforms but not subatomic so why are they swimming around down there?

EDIT: It seems I have misunderstood how the quantum tunnel thing worked.

jollyreaper2112 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:21:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They shrink in stages. The tardigrade scale was microscopic and they then went beneath that at the next step. So the whole journey is shrinking down from life-size to smaller and smaller and smaller until finally you were at the smallest possible level.

SupremeLeaderSnoke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:48 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, that makes sense. I was imagining the device thing they used to be more like a portal where once they were on the other side they were automatically in the quantum realm.

jollyreaper2112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You'll see it in a rewatch the ship does little jumps in size

nviledn5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:18:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank's ship continued shrinking after that encounter with the tardigrades

joshmoxey ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:34:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I spent the 2nd half of the movie worried that Ava was going to fuck with Scott's daughter. Thank god nothing happened.

devilslaughters ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:21:44 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They really are writing with internet criticism in mind. "Why does Ava just kidnap the kid...again?" Insert a whole dramatic scene why she doesn't.

CobaKid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:39:34 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

glad they didnt go that route tbh

Doctor_Sleepless ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:40:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

After watching this movie, I felt entertained,

dating_derp ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:09:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If Ant Man isn't in Avengers 4 because he's stuck in the Quantum realm, I'm gonna be pissed. They had every other leading hero in the third except Ant Man and Hawkeye. And they just killed off a bunch of them. Put Ant Man and Hawkeye in the fourth!

dandaman64 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:23:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Skunk_Giant ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:22:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hopefully this isn't constituting a spoiler for you, but its been confirmed both Ant-Man and Hawkeye will be in A4.

Creepeth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:11:39 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Even Evangeline Lily confirmed she will be in A4.

PyroCroissant ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:32:42 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But sheโ€™s dust!

mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:41:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sucks that she got dusted, would have loved to see Antman and Wasp work with the rest of the surviving characters throughout the whole movie.

coolcat430 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:23:47 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can understand pym particles not having any proper explanation because they're cool and make sense in a superhero kind of way, but the quantum realm is just ridiculous. How did she survive down there? Where did she get that weird robe from?!

But besides that and the villain I loved the movie, the humor was great all throughout.

GyantSpyder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:18:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the comics there are whole civilizations in the Microverse with textile industries and cosplay conventions.

MrSpookShire ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:41:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So, we're in a blank period until March eh? My god...the theories that'll be made between now and then.

I'm hoping Hawkeye pops up in a credit scene for Captain Marvel (weird I know, but every other avenger has popped up)

AlbinoStepchild ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:44:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Bold prediction but I think Ant Man will be in the post credits scene somehow either going back in time to the 90s to warn Captain Marvel about Thanos, and she says that I'll be ready whenever the event comes in the future. Fast forward to Nick Fury signaling her at the end of Infinity War. Or they just meet each other in the Quantum Realm

TheAerofan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:59:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But Ant Man doesnโ€™t even know about Thanos. Although I guess they would have seen the ship landing in New York on the news before the snap.

AlbinoStepchild ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos and Scott could have met within the Quantum Realm

highqi ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 08:29:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Enjoyed it a lot...as I did with the first one.

Especially liked the Baba Yaga bit.

altcastle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:32:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That guy definitely was out for lunch/called in sick when John Wick rolled through at some point in his past.

hurrpancakes ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:25:13 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The final post credit scene made me think: Does Thanos doing his thing affect all living things? Are half the ants in the universe gone too? Obviously it doesn't just affect humans based on who disappears in Infinity War

Rusarules ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:58:58 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Feige confirmed it today: all living things.

hollowcrown51 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:17:37 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So is half of the trees and grass also disappeared?

The_Director ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:37:41 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Trees are a valuable resource. I bet Thanos spared them.

SinisterKid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:50:02 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well Groot didn't make it.

sable-king ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:50:07 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No. We would've seen that happening in Wakanda if that was the case.

hollowcrown51 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:53:15 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So plants are safe from Thanos...but not Groot.

sable-king ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:03:37 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because Groot is sentient.

hollowcrown51 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:06:45 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So do sentient robots like Ultron get disappeared too?

sable-king ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:10:19 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can't say for sure. We didn't see any during IW so we can't confirm or deny.

hollowcrown51 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:23:23 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mhm and we don't know if Vision would've been susceptible to disappearing too.

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:12:29 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Me and my buddy talked about that, he argued it'd would apply to every living thing so that's like trillions quadrillions of dead ants.

qwedsa789654 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:17:35 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I asked that too because if this affect insect , earth 'd perish but I got downvote

bbqk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:28:44 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Probably cause incest is wrong and disgusting

qwedsa789654 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:04 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

god damn it.....thx

Grokrok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:41 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Insects can be considered a resource, part of the food chain. Maybe Thanos' concept of the Snap is sentient creatures that only consume and pollute are affected.

Orleanian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:34 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Common fan consensus seemed to be that it was half of all sentient beings.

But there are theories that it is all living beings too. Those theories have some hiccups though...what do we consider a living being? Is bacteria a living being? If so, shouldn't half the bacteria in our bodies be dusted away, half the crops we have, half the livestock, etc... leaving to orders of magnitude more deaths than the mere social collapse from dusting half the sentient populations?

Jekyll_not_Hyde ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:21:02 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When Ghost is 'quantum phasing' do we see alternate versions of her? I'm 99% sure we do, esp. since Laurence Fishborne is talking about parallel universes during his teaching scene. It legit happens after she gets the lab and goes back home, when she tries to go into her containment chamber there is 1 version that goes in with the suit on and one version that is wearing a T-shirt instead of a hoodie! Did anyone else see it?

Zer0Fucks2Give ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:05:56 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, definitely. Not just her image 'ghosting' frames, there were distinctly different facial expressions, motions, etc

Jekyll_not_Hyde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:42 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I went to see it again just to see what else there was. Sometimes she get's hit by their punches and kicks and sometimes she yelled instead of calmly talking. I really loved it and wished they had utilized it more, but a lot of the frames were her doing the same thing just slightly to the left or right. I hope we see her again with powers.

KingTunt ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:00:45 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie felt like a Saturday morning cartoon, which is a compliment. Just plot moving the plot forward which was pretty entertaining due to the performances of the cast. Great summer movie

Nizpee ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:37:18 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

David Dastmalchian much better in Ant-Man 2 than Ant-Man 1

ipickuppennies ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:33:44 on October 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

David Dastmalchian

Baba Yaga

Alexdoh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:41 on October 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No one asked if he meant John Wick

EMPulseKC ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 20:20:18 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If it's daytime in Wakanda when Thanos did his whole finger snap thing, how is it also day time in San Francisco?

tyderian ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 04:13:47 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The sun is rising everywhere on a grateful universe.

FoxInDaBox ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:44:02 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was also daytime in NY in the Avengers after credits.

Grokrok ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:45:10 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good catch. If Wakanda is in central Africa it would be 9 hours ahead of S.F. If the "snap" occurred in Wakanda in the late afternoon, then it's already daylight (early morning) in S.F., so it could be daylight in both locations. I suppose someone can analyze the lighting on the pier when Scott and the Pyms engaged in their quantum tunnel mission to see if it matches early morning lighting or not...

AliasHandler ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:59:03 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Certainly looked like early morning light in SF

windowpaintseeker ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:34:05 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think everyone vanished at the same time

rynep ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:04:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Such great dialogue. I noticed the character interactions were fantastic. In fact, the first 5 minutes had more heart and action than Justice League.

Spilly42 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:51:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did anyone catch the โ€œYou go low, Iโ€™ll go highโ€ scene from the trailer? Or was it taken out?

JeffDenlon ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:55:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It wasn't in the movie

Maxa30 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:20:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t think โ€œyou know, Iโ€™m an avengerโ€ now was either

Adv2k169XLplusCats ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:24:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Misdirection to not spoil the scene .

EvasionSnake ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:53:26 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Of course Tim Heidecker is here. The entire last act is about who's gonna claim that FREE REAL ESTATE.

SupremeLeaderSnoke ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:27:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

His character's name in the credits was Captain Daniel Goobler which is the most Tim & Eric sounding name i've ever heard.

DamnIt_Richard ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:44:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was really hoping the Avaโ€™s alias was going to be Baba Yaga.

Bamres ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:28 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

John wick?

vinreg33 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:51:38 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Now Tayne I can get into.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:29:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is there anyway you can generate a nude Tayne?

Bamres ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:53 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Celery Ant man

bestof0927 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:56:36 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So quick question I havenโ€™t seen anyone bring up yet; since Scott was in the quantum realm during the snap, was he immune to it?

metalgeargreed ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:37:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the quantum realm protected him, imo. Look at who got snapped in Infinity War and who didn't. Original Avengers all good. Every one else? Straight snapped.

whereismymind86 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Rhodey made it too, although I suppose he is in phase one, even if he's not an avenger, he is a major character in the first two iron man movies, and of course Rocket made it out alive too.

Sorge74 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:36:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I disagree with the quantum realm being protection, thanos is in control of all of this reality, be it small or big. I would agree that Scott making it to the quantum realm before the snap is important.

whereismymind86 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

probably, as its, sort of a different dimension...kinda

kotoamatsukamix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:06:17 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The quantum realm protected him. The gauntlet only works in the universe itโ€™s in so if Scott was in the quantum realm itโ€™s a different universe and time space.

mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:41:44 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He did have radio contact with them still, if that means anything.

bobdole48 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:00:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd assume he was just a randomly chosen survivor. Seems like he's written out of the next one based on how it ended. Don't know who'd get him out, or even know about him.

Jgugjuhi ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:06:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's going to be a big part of the next one, according to concept images + behind the scenes

blumpkin24 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:14:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do you mind sharing or providing me a link? Iโ€™m extremely eager to hear about this. Hawkeye and Ant-Man are some of my favorites.

Jgugjuhi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:18:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Krimreaper1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
WarcraftFarscape ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:42 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe time vortex to the 90s?

Read1984 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:29:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Time Vortex to the 90s" should be a band name.

whereismymind86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:45 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ooh...i'd be down with him being in Captain Marvel, similar to the Hulk's presence in Ragnarok

T-RexInAnF-14 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:43:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked it overall, the humor and the action. The villain was a little meh; it kept taking me out of it that not only could she choose to move through walls or other things, but sometimes she couldn't control it and hold objects. She never had trouble walking on the floor/ground and they even added footstep sounds. For almost everything else I just chose to kinda toss out disbelief...except, what did Janet eat for 30 years? I was hoping they'd add at least a line or 2 to maybe say 30 years in the Quantum Realm (do you guys just add the word "quantum" before everything?) doesn't feel like it there, or else she spent 30 years alone and would be insane if she didn't starve.

How they tie it into Infinity War with the stinger is great, I actually said "oh shit" out loud.

TitillatingTrav ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:15:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We already know time and space are wonky in the quantum realm. Seems totally plausible that sustenance wouldn't be required when you're that tiny.

signalflow313 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:56:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i enjoyed this movie but i was disappointed with the villain. she did some cool things but her back story and motivations weren't that interesting.

also where did janet get those clothes in the quantam realm?

inconspicuous_bear ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:57:52 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She also had lipstick and eyeliner for sure, kind took me out of the moment lol

JediJones77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:35:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I hope she had toilet paper in there.

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:26:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really liked the baba yaga background told by one of the friendly cons. This movie made me laugh so much.

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:44:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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muhash14 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:13:25 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost

Baba yaga...

mosephjoseph ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:05:21 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My entire theater lost their collective shit at the post credits scene

Ekez42 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:53:02 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Overall I really liked it. But maybe it could have benefited with one less villain? Maybe cut out Sonny Burch so they could flesh out Ghost more?

imnotabus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:46:51 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agree, I think that character was mostly a waste of screentime sadly. The hot potato chase sequence between multiple groups with the building was a bit much.

SarcasticGamer ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:31:00 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder which DC actor they're going to get next. I really want to see Phiefer and Keaton look at each other in Infinity War 2 and have Hank ask if she knows him. Lol.

baneoftheinternet ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:42:12 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone else really want to buy a Hyundai TM after watching that? Some fucking ridiculous product placement in that movie. Loved Paul Rudd tho he is one of my favorite actors.

ihateradiohead ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:07:21 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There was this one kid in one of the rows ahead of me who started yelling โ€œno! No!โ€ When the crew turned to dust

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:41:13 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There were like 10 adults in my theater who did that.

AlphaVictor87 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:53:51 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I for one made an audible gasp

Elcactus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:53:45 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I figured it was coming since the post-credits scene is usually reserved for sequel hooks, but it was pretty intense hearing some people in my theater be shocked and confused while others were losing their shit because they'd seen infinity war.

AlphaVictor87 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:10:15 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i figured something was coming to tie towards infinity war, but having him trapped there was NOT was I was expecting at all.

seeingeyegod ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:32:06 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I said OH SHIT

Megavore97 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:00 on July 28, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just watched it and this one Black couple yelled "hell NAW" in unison.

TuhinBagh ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:03:08 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can anyone explain me Germany and captain America plotline?

why only he got house arrested?

ankisethgallant ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 11:11:59 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone else went on the run as fugitives, Clint and Scott both took a plea deal to be put on house arrest in exchange for having their families be left alone by the whole situation. It was explained in Infinity War.

TuhinBagh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:31:48 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dafuq... I think I forgot about this.

akagl ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:23:26 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait....there is a Spiderman and an antman now?

SirLeos ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:33:11 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was just a quick line as to why they weren't there.

ThaneKyrell ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 18:27:54 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He went to Germany to help Captain America steal a aircraft in order for them to reach Siberia in time to stop the "new" Winter Soldiers (which in the end were already dead). Thanks to Iron Man and his team invervening, only Cap and Bucky manage to reach Siberia, with the rest of Cap's team being arrested. In the end of the movie, Cap saved them, with Scott and Clint (Hawkeye) likely making a deal with the government in order to remain with their families (why did the government agree? no idea, but this is what happened so yeah)

KibaTeo ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 11:56:26 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Could be a "they are technically heroes who have helped saved america in the past so we can cut them some slack" kind of thing.

Alternatively could sorta be using them as low key bait hoping they'll come in contact or be contacted by the others.

FizzleMateriel ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 11:36:48 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I took it as being both a little of Column A and a little of Column B.

TuhinBagh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:11 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What was the deal about thou?

ThaneKyrell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:17:01 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No idea. Since they both had escaped the government, the gov likely allowed them to serve minimum sentences in order to be seeing as "punishing" heroes. It would be too embarassing for the gov if no one was punished, so they agreed with a small punishment in order to save face

vreddy92 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:07:38 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They had a huge fight in Germany in Winter Soldier. Destroyed a large part of an airport if I recall. Likely damages from that. Germany wanted them prosecuted and America said โ€œfine, we will put this guy under house arrest if you extradite himโ€.

Squeezycakes17 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 10:10:59 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

who knew John Wick is in the MCU xx

SongstressInDistress ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:46:40 on October 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kept blabbering about this movie's timeline and how it relates to the events of another Marvel movie earlier this year.

Then the post-credit scene happened. I knew it was coming but didn't think that all 3 will be affected.

dsmei ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:48:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

After mid-credit scene

Marvel: You thought you were going to enjoy this film?!

Someguy2020 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:37:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Marvel: oh right, itโ€™s a universe.

StagOfBaratheon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:49:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I enjoyed it more after that scene, honestly. Felt like there was something on the line now.

Dobokdude ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 06:01:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit guys, where do I start...

Firstly I like how the Ghost isn't a 2-dimensional villain. Ghost had a good motivation and was sympathetic The diversifying of the character was an interesting touch, and luckily doesn't seem to be much of a social justice pander since the comic character didn't have too much to his alter ego. Choreography was great, jokes HILARIOUS(that damn ant eating Fruit Loops) and of course the stingers. Man let me tell you, I cried HOLY SHIT at the top of my lungs when I saw Scott was stuck in the Quantum Realm with the Pym's disintegrated due to Thanos. Then we see the ant playing the drums from the trailers and that quote at the end with a question mark...damn Disney you can really tug at those heartstrings.

Admittedly, it doesn't play too much into the overall MCU, but that's fine. It's nice to have films like this and Spider Man: Homecoming that have a smaller story that ties into a bugger one. And this one did it well. 8.5 out of 10 from me!

Ayeitsdre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

nice "bugger one"

Dobokdude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:15:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Actually that pun wasn't intentional but yeah let's go with it lol.

Ayeitsdre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude itโ€™s too late letโ€™s just run with it

Uncle_Cheech ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 16:01:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Foreshadowing: Cassie does eventually become Scottโ€™s partner when heโ€™s out of the quantum realm and they work together with Tony to figure out the time travel situation

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:21:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But will she be Stature or Stinger?

hell_of_a_bird ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 23:55:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My biggest complaint about this movie is that I had to watch a trailer for Hotel Transylvania 3 first. I die a little inside each time.

all_the_right_moves ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:30:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The animation is soooooo bad. In every single shot, only the things actively moving have any motion at all, and the rest is completely still and isolated. Faces, bodies, everything... just so fucking robotic and creepy.

dave-a-sarus ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:39:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Really liked how they handled the villain in this one. She wasn't the typical evil bad guy who has a evil motivation for evil sake, she just wanted to use the machine Hank built to heal herself. And for once, the heroes help the villain at the end and not kill them off. It was a nice subversion and felt refreshing to see that than to see what we're so tired at this point of seeing and it seemed like they knew that. Also, Walton Goggins was just okay. He felt a little more like a cartoonish bad guy, I just wish they had more for him to do.

dorothydreamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I could have done without Walton. I was afraid it would turn out to be Spiderman 3 which got ruined with too many villains.

mr_cobbins ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:59:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Having watched the first Antman again recently, I think I enjoyed this much a lot more. Frankly the villain in the first movie was just so bad and forgettable that having Ghost as a villain with clear and understandable intentions did a lot for me. At the same time, the southern guy didn't really have much of a purpose in the movie other than to contrive more action scenes and add comedy.

I'm glad they brought back the Luis storytelling scenes from the first movie, and loved how they took a self-aware jab at the baseball cap and sunglasses incognito look.

someone_found_my_acc ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 01:50:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just finished watching the movie, probably one of the funniest marvel movies along with thor ragnarok. Love the fact that the "villain" wasn't actually evil, but just trying to survive.

Just a good time all around.

Bolthead44 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:27:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It kind of felt like a movie without a true villain which was kind of refreshing.

shannytyrelle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:59:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean she was kinda โ€˜evilโ€™, towards the end she was willing to kidnap Scottโ€™s daughter and perhaps kill Janet if need be

dafood48 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:13:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But she was talked out of going for Cassie

someone_found_my_acc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:46:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also she was really desperate, she had just been told that she would die in a few weeks.

Zschaus1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:43:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Quite easily too.

[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 07:50:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A couple more comments-

Paul Rudd is a phenomenal actor. The part where he plays Janet is given appropriate facial and body gestures at every move. Too bad he spends half the movie being kind of hapless.

Hannah John-Kamen is sexy af. Tbh I was rooting for her the whole time

AGOTFAN ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:46:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Rudd acting as Scott Lang impersonate Janet van Dyne is soooo subtle it was so funny.

Often actors overdo the acting to elicit laughter in this kind of situation.

NoodleKidz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:20:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

love him, also helps that he is one of those rare comedy actors who also happens to be really good looking

Zer0Fucks2Give ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

*Paul Rudd acting as Scott Lang impersonating Michelle Pfeifer as Janet van Dyne

VY_Cannabis_Majoris ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:20:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I always like Michael Pena. But it is off-putting knowing he's a Scientologist.

MisterCheeks ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:31:47 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Aww, now I have a sad...

whereismymind86 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:58:40 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ehh, thats fine, so long as he doesn't push his crazy onto others

Its like Tom Cruise...he's a nutjob, but...whatever, he's not hurting anybody....probably

VY_Cannabis_Majoris ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:23:20 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True true

skazzz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:44:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is exactly how I feel about Beck.

mogwainot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yikes. What a bummer. I didnโ€™t know that. Heโ€™s such a talented actor.

mikeweasy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:08:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Aww man he is dead to me now.

[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 00:21:53 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:31:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's hilarious and a great actor. But yeah that is kinda disappointing that he's a Scientologist. Shits crazy yo.

kaprrisch ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:56:42 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think he said anything about hindering his movie-watching experience. He just said that that fact is off-putting.

marginallymediocre ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:46:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just got out. My first impression: very solid MCU film just not one of the absolute best. Iโ€™d say itโ€™s middle of the pack. This opinion could change after subsequent viewings, however. Still very enjoyable overall. Now some notes/highlights for me.

  • Wasp was badass and Iโ€™m glad she got plenty of time to shine.
  • HOWEVER, I also wish we could have seen more of Scott in actual combat instead of just running/chasing things and being used for comedic effect. The whole โ€œsuit/powers/whatever not workingโ€ plot point I feel like has now been done to death in MCU. I was totally cool with him being sidelined a bit in favor of Wasp, just wish there had been a better reason.
  • Really like that Marvel has been going in the direction of more sympathetic and โ€œhumanโ€ villains recently. Ghost wasnโ€™t an amazing character imo but she also wasnโ€™t just a generic revenge/power-hungry antagonist so I still enjoyed her more than a lot of MCU villains.
  • Once again found myself laughing quite a bit. One of the reasons the Ant-Man franchise is becoming one of my favorites in MCU. Michael Pena was comedic gold every time he was on screen. Man needs to be in more movies.
  • Both credit scenes were great even if somewhat expected. The second one in particular I enjoyed. I got somewhat of a Fallout-like vibe from it in the way it mixed the humor and absurdity of the film with an undertone of post apocalyptic horror.
  • Cassie was absolutely adorable and in general I loved all the family interactions. -Woo was an unexpectedly great character
  • Finally, that Tim Heidecker cameo
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:36:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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WaterStoryMark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:28:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can't believe they'd support that murderer.

saltshiner ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 07:43:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

this is the most shill sounding post i ever read.

"very solid" "subsequent viewings"

the exact phrases used by pretty much comment discovered to have been bought and used for shilling.

marginallymediocre ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:57:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, if I really were a shill Iโ€™d be praising almost every aspect of the movie and saying itโ€™s like a 9 or 10/10 film, which I clearly donโ€™t say. I did list a criticism and I could have put down a few more. I do have a PR degree so I guess Iโ€™m used to writing in a fanboy/shill sounding style lol.

saltshiner ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 08:12:22 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

not true that's not how shilling works. Shilling doesn't need to overpraise a movie. Just give people enough reason to think they won't have a bad time. Shilling is not about getting people excited to see the movie, it's just about getting them to consider maybe i don't need to hold myself back from it. Besides tempering expectations means people won't go in expecting a great movie then coming out and bashing it when it doesn't live up to the hype

Shills don't care if you enjoy a movie. just that you go to see it. but why am i talking to you. you're a shill

ParkerZA ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:18:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because a shill would be posting a review 3 days late and hardly seen by anyone visiting this thread. And it's perfectly in line with every one else's opinion of the films, how is he shilling if he's saying a good movie is a good movie?

Yeah I'm sure that guy's post is somehow convincing hundreds of people to go see Ant-Man, that weren't already going to see it lmao

saltshiner ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 08:21:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Time doesn't matter, and they do it consistently with multiple accounts. I guarantee read through the comments in the past of this thread you're gonna see multiple comments with similar wording.

It's easy to spot. And the fact you're being so defensive kinda makes me question your motives for replying to me tbh. I mean you seem nervous

ParkerZA ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:27:34 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, I'm a shill too! So are you! EVERYONE'S A SHILL! We're all part of the Disney machine bruh

saltshiner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:25 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

didn't call you a shill. called the first comment a shill. Though tbh you're being defensive over nothing which does raise some red flags

ParkerZA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:22 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're being awfully paranoid dude

saltshiner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Probably but we often find paranoid people can be the ones to expose the most deep rooted things. People are free to watch videos pointing out modern companies employee departments of social media posters to control narratives. I maybe paranoid but there's actual evidence Disney shills on sites like this so don't know why you would call me the paranoid one

ParkerZA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but you have to draw the line somewhere. His post isn't the work of a shill, or he's a very shitty one, posting three days late and getting little visibility.

saltshiner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But again I think the reason people struggle to find shills is they think shills are these posts that are super positive about the movie and have 0 karma. Shills don't work like that. They only need to make you think you won't have a bad time. At least for established IPs. Shills for Star Wars and Marvel know people already want to see it, all they are doing is trying to nudge away any doubts about going to see it. People by default WANT to see movies, shills only job is to try to encourage holdouts to go see the movie

Gordon_Frohman_Lives ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:23:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So easy to spot and yet you are dead wrong. Your comments make me cringe.

saltshiner ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:24:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love how people always tell me "there's no way for you to know if it's a shill" yet here you are so sure it's not. Only one way someone can be sure it's not a shill.

Gordon_Frohman_Lives ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love how you think Disney actually pays people to comment their support on reddit for their properties. It makes me so grateful that I didn't end up that fucking stupid.

saltshiner ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:04:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

we already know the story of disney moms so the fact you're arguing with me is curious

DarkLordKohan ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:49:43 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But what did she eat in 30 years of the quantum realm and where did she get her hair and makeup done?

agoonygoogoo55 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:29:38 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Actually in the comics there are beings that exist in the quantum realm, and in the film you can see a city in the background of one of the quantum realm shots. So there is likely a society that functions where she could survive.

DarkLordKohan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:11 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I missed that city shot then. It would explain where she got her sword from and clothes. Any screenshots of it yet?

Orleanian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:37 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The sword is just a broken wing, from what I recall seeing.

agoonygoogoo55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:54 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not that I'm aware of, I've been on the lookout for one myself

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:17 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i heard someone saying something about seeing a city , i must of missed it and dont read comics like in depth. Whats the city?

agoonygoogoo55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:25 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't really know since I never read them either. But I read a reddit comment on it and noticed it during the watch

edwartica ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:57:09 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wondered that myself. Maybe part of her evolution was to not need food.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:03:12 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My line of thinking was that since the laws of physics are different in the quantum realm, maybe she didn't have to eat. I don't know.

DarkLordKohan ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:44:12 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe she absorbed the energy Antman was getting after post credits. That maybe sustained her because of the limitless energy.

Edit: another thought I had.

When AntMan grows to giant man, he gets physically very tired quickly. His size burns massive energy, thats why he slept 3 days after.(Also wanted orange slices). So, turning the opposite way, the energy burn in the quantam realm is infinitely small. Maybe she didnt need to eat once because her energy can last for decades.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:20:58 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I saw only the first post-credit scene. Was there some energy thing in the second one?

jonsnowme ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:18:37 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The first post credit scene was the scene he was getting it in. It was the whole reason he went into the quantum realm.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:56:14 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, right! I somehow forgot that. Thanks!

willyolio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:20:53 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well there are "quantum healing particles" and stuff down there so maybe she just stayed healthy.

But where did she get her cloak?

Orleanian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:18 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In addition to the food, I was confused as to what they were breathing as well.

dankmemem88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:50 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And why didn't her mind turn to mush after 30 years of basically solitary confinement.

goonerwiththewind ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 02:34:59 on October 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

finally watched it and it was okay. Probably one of my least favorite Marvel films. I thought the jokes were too corny.

not a huge fan of Ghost. She wasn't a very smart villain in my opinion. I guess you could chalk it up to the fact that maybe her dying is clouding her judgment. She kept trying to steal the lab while they were trying to save Janet. It would have been much easier for Ghost to just let the gang save Janet without any interruption and then kidnap the mom. Kinda like how Burch let the feds do his job for him.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:26:25 on October 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost should have just said "Okay, let me help you, I need to use your box when you're done"

dadankness ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:11:04 on October 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She thought she needed to take the matter from janes body, into hers.

that was visually one of the coolest things marvel has done yet however.

injineer ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:59:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Only thing that would have make the movie better for me would be if instead of the ant in the second after credits scene, it was just the daughter walking around her empty house calling for her mom.

SpringTraps ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:04:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who hurt you? lol to be honest though it wouldโ€™ve been a bit more fitting than the ant playing drums at the end. It was a bit odd ending that scene with joke considering what just happened to the world.

injineer ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:05:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, the ant helped lighten the mood maybe but you see/hear that emergency broadcast thing so it was a little jarring.

Bitey_the_Squirrel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:30:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This ant is programmed to go about Scottโ€™s day when Scott isnโ€™t there. Consider Scott never coming back and this ant forever carries out Scottโ€™s routine absent any direction. At what point does the ant become Scott?

MoreGull ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:33:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is brutal and wouldn't fit the MCU. I loved the dichotomy of the ant playing drums - as it was programmed to do, as it will continue to do until someone stops it - against the backdrop of a world changing apocalyptic event. It's funny and jarring and makes you think.

johndoe42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:02:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's a common post-apocalyptic trope and I love it every time. I mean even Wall-E did it.

ThenPoem ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 12:10:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I've never heard of a movie being described as a palate cleanser lol

DaBombDiggidy ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 15:13:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fun popcorn movie. Nothing stellar and nothing really bad to say. Think Rudd/Lillyโ€™s chemistry is one of the best in the MCU.

TakenakaHanbei ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:25:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone else spend the movie watching Ghost and seeing all the variances whenever she phased? I really loved it, especially when she left the lab.

nikkihollywood ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:32:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How good was that car chase scene though!? So much fun to watch!

super_d991 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Probably my favorite scenes!

witcher317 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:30:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I felt some parts were influenced by the car chase scene in Matrix Reloaded.

Kittens4Brunch ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:26:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There really weren't anyone evil. Everyone was fairly nice.

Askray184 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:22:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Except the black market guy

69party69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost threatening to Foster to use Scott's kid against him with torture-y undertones wasn't really nice though

WyngZero ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 11:32:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The 1st end cedit scene was kinda obvious and I was expecting it the whole time. Admittingly, I was expect Scott to die too.

fascist___hag ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:00:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wasn't expecting it to be the Pym/Van Dyne crowd. This whole time I figured Cassie was going to be getting the dust treatment and that would be what gets Scott in the next movie.

WyngZero ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:20:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I bet Cassie died too. And her mom and step-dad

Mortuvir ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:09:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked how contrast the film was with infinity war, this is just rescuing 1 person, that is literally it. In comparison of half of the entire universe being dusted. Simple story which why i liked it

_____monkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Small scale"

Gravitystar88 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:10:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

2 hours in the bathroom... whatever thats about

SpaceNacho ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:06:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think those were his baths?

Gravitystar88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:18:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well maybe its the dirty minded teenager in me and my friends but we took that different and could not stop laughing

Bamres ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:26 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean as long as his daughter isn't there, does he really need to jerk it in the bathroom?

bloodflart ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:22:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

glad michael pena got to knock someone out in one punch again, his true super power

NinjaGuy206 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:19:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Next time we see him he should get his own suit! Like not even a suit with powers y'know, just a suit would be great. Like it doesn't even have to be anything fancy y'know?

lucathe2nd ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:38:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In soviet Russia, Ghost is Baba Yaga.

Naptiva ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think you mean John wick is baba yaga.

reallifesexdoll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, John wick is the one you send to kill the baba yaga

Naptiva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah. True.

Bitey_the_Squirrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos snapped John Wicks dog

vrsick06 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:40:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Basically ant man and wasp aren't in infinity war because no one felt like flying to the west coast to pick them up. Same with Hawkeye, even if he got a longer house arrest, You'd think the current situation would be worth breaking that house arrest.

69party69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, what can an archer do against Thanos?

Scott at least could have done something

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:11:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I enjoyed this one as much as the last but is it just me or is Hank kind of a jerk? Also it seems like everyone from his past disagrees with his story as opposed to corroborating it?

Alertcircuit ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:07:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank being a jerk is on purpose. In the comics, he's the Avenger everyone pretends to like but can't stand. There's an infamous issue where he hits Janet, which I assume was the inspiration behind Bill Foster's "she was the only one who could endure" speech.

Thankfully, they toned him down a bit for the movie.

jthanny ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:20:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

is Hank kind of a jerk

This is very accurate to, if not downplaying, most people's opinion of him in the comics, both in-universe and by readers.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:26:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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jthanny ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:42:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Indeed, he has become somewhat of a whipping boy for never being able to drop back issue baggage, which really sucks for interesting character development. I was, however, more referencing his actions of projecting a snarky immodest faรงade to cover his insecurities over being a hero (not to mention his numerous actual mental issues). While he generally DOES the right thing, and is a good guy and stalwart friend to have on your side when in need, his dialogue is often purely 'you're not wrong, you're just an asshole'. Sort of a reverse Reed Richards/Hulk Hogan, who says all the right things, but many of their actions are... suspect... when viewed with outside universe knowledge.

busybagel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair Matt was in the process of being possessed by The Beast, so not all his choices were his. Those other ones though thatโ€™s all on the heroโ€™s. Also I agree that people need to move past the slap for Hank heโ€™s done a lot since then to make up for it, heโ€™s honestly probably my favorite founding avenger

SteveRudzinski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously, Reed Richards has purposely hit Susan straight up with malice. Hank was meant to be throwing his hands back and accidentally strike Janet after being away for like 40 hours.

Guess who is the wife beater? IT AIN'T REED WHICH IS SOME FUCKING HORSE SHIT.

WallanderOfMaine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ever read the comics? He was more than โ€œkind of a jerkโ€ there (especially in earlier days).

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'll take your word for it. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, just an observation.

Alertcircuit ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:51:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Perfectly solid Marvel movie. Probably not great for rewatches, since half the plot is "Person has the thing! Get em!"

I thought all the de-aged characters were really cool to see.

Watching Wasp flying around beating the shit out of people is the first time I've ever considered the Antman characters superpowered. I can easily see Wasp trashing a lower-tier MCU hero like Falcon no problem.

This movie's Stan Lee cameo is great.

The postcredits scene was kind of a weird place to leave off on and I'm wondering how they're gonna explain it in the next Avengers.

Altephor1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:11:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The postcredits scene was kind of a weird place to leave off on and I'm wondering how they're gonna explain it in the next Avengers.

"Time Vortex" was the key phrase in the after-credits scene.

envynav ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think that the post credit scene might tie into Captain Marvel. She didnโ€™t come to fight Thanos, and even if she was far away from Earth, she probably would have heard about him collecting the stones. Iโ€™m guessing that she is also stuck in the Quantum Realm and that her and Ant-Man will Team up to escape in Avengers 4.

Nautilus23 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:55:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s been awhile since Iโ€™ve seen a film with such great pacing. There was never a moment where I wasnโ€™t entertained. Major props to the director, writers, and editors for that.

Donald_RcMonald ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:22:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s one of the things I really liked. There wasnโ€™t much down time in the movie. When there was it moved the plot well IMO.

beefytrout ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:11:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That hit me as I was leaving the theater. Seems like every movie has a point where I want them to move a little faster and get where they're going. But AM&TW was just perfectly paced.

I_need_that_bacon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There was certainly a lot more going on in this movie out side of Scott and Hank like in the first movie. It felt pretty chaotic where as the first movie felt more like a superhero/Marvel checklist movie which some people had a problem with.

This movie took the best parts of the first movie, expanded upon them, added Ant-Man/Wasp dynamic duo and took some small risks which made this movie good for me. I had more fun in this than Black Panther.

submortimer ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:45:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I havent seen anyone suggesting this yet, so I'll say it now:

In A4, Janet is going to reform herself like Dr. Manhattan, because she is now Molecule Man.

BendADickCumOnBack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:38:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wasnt she dusted

submortimer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, but like when Dr. Manhattan was vaporized, I'm suggesting that she gained the ability to control things at the subatomic level, even her own particles.

billythefridge ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:57:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But what if dusting the person just sent them to the Quantum Realm where they are so small they don't disrupt the Universe's resources?!

serpounce42 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:27:28 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I had a good nerd moment seeing freaking tardigrades.

Passwordis12 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:43:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kinda hoped that Luis would have been in the giant suit when Scott snuck back home. Either way, I hope that he gets to use the suit in the third movie.

sayhellotojenn ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:40:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Overall a great movie, but I did feel like it was a little overstuffed with both villains. Ghost was an interesting departure from usual Marvel villains, but as much as I love Walton Goggins (legitimately one of the most underrated actors currently working), his villain fell flat and was totally unnecessary. Thatโ€™s really the biggest issue I have with this movie - it felt like such a waste of the great Walton Goggins.

Cine_Wolf ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:03:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No doubt. When I saw him on screen I was thinking that they must have something fun in store for him, but the role he played could have been pretty much given to anyone. Hopefully Tarantino will be making good use of him once more with his next one.

sayhellotojenn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is he in the next Tarantino movie? I think that bit of news missed me, but if thatโ€™s true, I am THRILLED. I have mixed feelings on The Hateful Eight (but more negative than positive), but one of the biggest bright spots in it was the casting of Walton Goggins. He and Samuel L. Jackson played off of each other so well.

Cine_Wolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:29 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh... I was certain that I heard that he was to be in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, but IMDB says otherwise. His next few gigs, all non-Terantino, are here. Sorry for the late night brain fart.

Bomber131313 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:19:56 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

his villain fell flat and was totally unnecessary

He wasn't really a villain, more he was just there to have henchman for Ant-Man and Wasp to fight.

callmemacready ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:16:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Truth serum and Baba Yaga, brilliant

WaterMelaown ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:28:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Im pretty sure i saw

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:02:43 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not alone!! I SAW IT, TOO!!!

IamTheBlade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:26:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos or Dormammu?!?

Bitey_the_Squirrel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:54:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have come to bargain

daITCHyouCANTscratch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:53 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos, I have come to bargain.

AGPerson ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:57:18 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m assuming the time vortex that Janet refers to in the mid-credit scene will play a big part in Scott escaping as well as A4 end game

words_words_words_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:47:05 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or the parallel realities mentioned by Laurence Fishburne during his lecture

johopa70 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:23 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's what I'm guessing. Scott is going to go reality jumping in A4; retrieving dead heroes from alternate timelines.

words_words_words_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:46 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or: visit a reality where the snap never happened, and he can enlist the Avengers to help save the dusted Avengers.

trevdv ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:01:11 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So when Scott got a FaceTime from Cassie and said, "I have to pick up, if I don't she'll think something's wrong and go to my place" ... Am I reading too much into the second end credit scene to assume that Cassie has also disappeared, due to how empty and untouched Scott's apartment appeared to be?

Mental_Caregiver ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:14:01 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think you might be onto something...

But then again, the second credit scene happened momentarily after the snap I'm assuming, Cassie likely wouldn't have had time to rush over there.

Zer0Fucks2Give ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:04 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, either that or her and/or step-dad were dusted...

J_weasel ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:24:25 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Credits scenes killed me all over again. And the emergency broadcast tone with the ant playing the drums was subtle but the implications are nuts... Post snap earth...

KevTravels ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:04:50 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Real solid film. Def lacking on the Pfeiffer. But I loved Randall Park. He nailed it.

willyolio ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:41:05 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder if ant man was spared because he just happened to be part of the 50%, or if being in the quantum realm will be critical to the unsnappening.

ImaFlyingLobster ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:47:20 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Russo brothers twitter confirmed that he survived by luck

t850terminator ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:14:38 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haven't seen it yet, but I'm just here to appreciate how the reddit banner just has a picture of literal ant and a wasp.

Sir-Galahad ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:54:59 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did anyone else felt turn on when Scott and Hope were in the utility closet when Scott was changing sizes?

Deathmeter1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:53:39 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's a fetish

Aralith1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:49:46 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't say I felt turned on, but I did feel like that scene was awfully kinky. There Hope was fidgeting with his regulator, which they even draw attention to how close that is to the nether regions with a joke implying that Scott's balls got shocked when she was trying to reconnect the electronic components. And then when he returns to regular size, they're both noticeably breathing heavily and giving each other googly eyes. Plus, you know, size play is a real fetish, and a brief foray into fan art concerning these two characters (well, usually the original Ant-Man and Wasp, but still) demonstrates it's something the fandom is well aware of. I don't know, might all be a coincidence, and the scene was just a lot more sexually charged than they intended it to be, but it all felt pretty deliberate.

martinez722 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:43:33 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Theory: Avengers 4 will most def be a 5-10 year time jump. Over that course of time, Cassie Lang immerses herself in understanding the technology that was left on the roof. Later, she understands quantum tech and slowly begins to theorize that her father is trapped in the quantum realm since there are only three spots of ashes. She later rescues her father from the Quantum Realm and the Avengers begin to plan to take down Thanos. BAM

EDIT: if dr. Bill foster is still Alive, then it would make it easier, he could teach her everything and in the end, sheโ€™ll get the suit for Stature from Bill Foster (his suit that he used to be Goliath).

PM_Me_Clavicle_Pics ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:57:32 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the mid-credits scene, Janet Van Dyne says something to Scott about not getting trapped in a time vortex while in the Quantum Realm. It sounds like a throwaway line, but I'm about 90% sure that Scott will use one of these time vortexes to travel back to 2012 and the Battle of New York, where he'll warn the original Avengers about Thanos.

chaosaxess ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:59:06 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely. Also pretty sure they setup the explanation for Cap Marvel's powerset with the quantum energies Janet utilized.

PurplePentapus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:26:42 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That is if she didn't go poof

ufailowell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:32:34 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Really hope it isn't a time skip more than IRL time. It would just be weird seeing the movies represent what they think will be instead of what is.

Eagle20_Fox2 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:27:44 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So just to be clear. Ant Man wasn't in Infinity War because he was having his own little battle on the West Coast, right?

Grokrok ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:34:24 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The bulk of this movie takes place weeks if not months before the events of IW. After Hank recovers Janet from the Quantum Realm, the Pyms and Scott build a new quantum tunnel, small enough to fit in a van. How long did it take them to build that new tunnel - days? Weeks? That's not directly addressed in the movie, but it certainly wasn't built in a single afternoon. So some time lapsed between this movie and IW. When the attack on Wakanda occurred, it's doubtful anyone in the outside world was aware of what was happening, not until the snap itself.

PureQuestionHS ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:33:53 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do remember that before the Wakanda part there was a fairly large attack on New York, and also the smaller conflict in Scotland. Probably the ramifications were never widely known, though.

Grokrok ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:41:06 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True, but the attack on NY was a very brief one. After the ship left what could anyone who is not an Avenger do? It would look like an isolated event that was already being handled. (To the rest of the world, it would look like another brief attack similar to the one in Thor 2, but less destructive). The attack in Scotland was only directed at individual members of the Avengers, doubtful anyone in the public was even aware of it. Scott's not an Avenger, and not only are the Pyms not Avengers, Hank wants nothing to do with them and actively hates Shield (or whatever's left of Shield). As Scott would say, the got their own fish to fry and can't get wrapped up in Avenger business.

PureQuestionHS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:02:37 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh absolutely, I was just saying they'd probably know about New York.

It's unclear whether the Scotland attack would be newsworthy but there was definitely considerable collateral damage, so people probably know something happened. And I mean, someone probably saw them from a window or something, surely.

Stormwalkers ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:30:42 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

maybe itโ€™s the old quantum tunnel and they just shrank it to fit in the van?

seeingeyegod ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:33:09 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

thats what i thought

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:55:27 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Someone else probably pointed this out, but I wonder if them saying "truth serum's just something made up on TV" was a reference to Agents of SHIELD using it in the pilot (I think they did)?

You2110 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:10:47 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yup. But it was fake on the show.

seeingeyegod ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:31:54 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

its a real world reference also

wut-a-stud ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 11:42:13 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really love the Saturday morning cartoon vibes this movie gives here, unfortunately I kinda wish the action was bit more creative like the first one was.

resls12 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:04:28 on August 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But who are those mysterious buyers?

theyelloumbrella ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:08:51 on September 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Someone tell me how did Hope's mom shut down that bomb if she went subatomic inside the rocket-bomb!!!

ctuwallet24 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 02:29:53 on September 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pure destruction. She didnโ€™t do much disarm it as fly through the inner workings.

AlexS101 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:30:38 on October 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The post-credit scene was amazing.

blockpro156 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:54:20 on October 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really enjoyed it, it arguably lacked in substance, but it was a fun adventure/comedy.

The post credit scene was crazy! Didn't expect it at all.
Obviously Scott will come back though, and my prediction is that he will be riding a giant tardigrade!

[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:27:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos fucking up other movies I see

Pizza4Free ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:33:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Some people said this movie has no tie-in to infinity war so that part surprised me.

Maxa30 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:33:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I expected it because Rudd said on Seth Meyers that it tied in

boomfruit ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:51:28 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This was my favorite non-Guardians Marvel film ever! Awesome fight and action sequences! Everyone's jokes on point!

Also, Evangeline Lilly in a ponytail and skintight suit. Hngggg

Bomber131313 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:31:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Awesome fight and action sequences!

My only complain was most the action stuff was shown in the trailers/commercials. Giant Man in the water would have been cool if I/audience didn't know it was coming. Or Wasp running along the knife as it was in the air.

boomfruit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:34:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah that's fair. The only thing I've ever seen was the Wasp running on the knife. I try to make a habit not to watch trailers, although it's impossible to avoid when seeing other movies sometimes.

Bomber131313 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:50:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I try to only see 1 trailer, but the first trailer had the knife run, more of the kitchen fight, Giant Man in the water, and Wasp using the Pez.

And TV commercials showed Giant Man stopping the truck.

Aftermath16 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:37:26 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Public Service Announcement: DONโ€™T watch ANY trailers for movies you already know youโ€™ll be watching. My movie experience has been so much better since I started this practice.

dodecapotamus ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:21:10 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's a superhero movie where no one dies as a fault of anyone portrayed in the film. The main antagonist is helped instead of murdered, the group of bumbling idiots cop to their crimes. Our heroes incapacitate people, since Wasp's stingers are shown to knock people out from Scott getting stung.

Ant-Man and the Wasp ends with one MORE person alive than it started with.

At least the first ending.

kingrawer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:24:39 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's a fucking cartoon and I love it.

LevynX ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 11:34:12 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One day I want to have a daughter as cute as Cassie

CM4Sci ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 05:57:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Am I the only one who was eerily unsettled by the second post credits scene? Sure it's just the drumming ant but the emergency alert siren.. complete and utter silence.. it was so creepy.

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:11:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So creepy. Complete silence except for the emergency alert.

Eruanno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was happy that it was light-hearted after the depressing ending to Avengers. And then come the post credits scenes. Choo choo, here comes the sad train again... :โ€™(

Cruzader1986 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 06:01:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm glad Ghost didn't die a virgin

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:05:02 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe she did. Wasnt too long before Thanos snapped his fingers

SirLeos ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:18:59 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, I just saw it, loved it and came here to see if the comments were as positive as mine. I guess not.

Anyway, I loved this movie. I don't know if it's Paul Rudd, Ant-Man shenanigans or Evangeline Lilly. I thought that everyone did a great job portraying their characters, everything had a purpose and they redeemed the villain at the end.

Man, I love this movie. The Stinger in the end was great, can't wait to see how they wrap Phase 3.

enigmazweb24 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:44:28 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pro-tip: never come to these discussion threads looking for positivity.

SirLeos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:19 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tell me about it. He, itโ€™s fine. I want to see the movie again, we have an IMAX theater in the city and the movie looks gorgeous, the quantum realm itโ€™s amazing and because of the size of the screen you truly feel like an atom in there.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:30 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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FatalTragedy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:37:30 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well this is also a good film and people are shutting on it. Go figure.

Metasophocles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:41 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What's "The Stinger"?

SirLeos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:07 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A name for any post-credits scene. It's often used as a type of Easter Egg for people who stick around for the credits when most people had left the theater/changed the channel. Sometimes a comedy will include outtakes. Sometimes the outtakes can be better than the movie.

This is often used to provide some kind of Sequel Hook, but may also be there just as a final gift to the audience, such as a comedy giving one final joke and punchline to the audience, or a dramatic work showing that maybe the guy who made a Heroic Sacrifice is Not Quite Dead.

Often done as a form of That's All, Folks!. It can overlap with Creative Closing Credits, if the format of the credits almost constitutes a special production in and of itself.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheStinger

Sorry, I've been reading too much tvtropes lately.

xxamnat ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:57:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Extremely enjoyable movie, Ghost is very cool. Hope thereโ€™s a chance for her character to return in a sequel.

AlbinoStepchild ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Her return may come sooner than you think. Based on Janet "healing" her, she owes everything to her. But who knows how long shes actually cured of her conditon. In the mid credits scene we see Scott gathering healing particles to help Ghost, but he never makes it out of the Quantum Realm. So I foresee Ghost helping Scott in Avengers 4 to save the family.

BigBoodles ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:24:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My gf and I both were convinced that the post credits scene would be Cassie getting dusted. But damn this is almost worse. A 1/8 chance of all three disappearing, AND it happened at the absolute shittiest time. Talk about a raw deal.

nickadoodledoo ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:50:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I commented this somewhere else, but as funny as the second end credits scene was, it was pretty dark with the emergency broadcast on the television. Regardless, still a great film!

KnightOfRen93 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:15:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didnโ€™t expect all three to turn to dust.

b00gerbrains ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah there's like a 12.5% chance of that happening

CampanionDude ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:18:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved the opening of the movie of them pretending to be on an Ant-Man adventure in the cardboard box, all the way through the giant group hug. I really loved how wholesome Scott is in this movie, and when he answers his Video Call while tied up, had me laughing so hard.

Javv_ ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:04:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
MadMurilo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:47:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked this sequel a lot, and the smaller scope of the movie is much appreciatted after Infinity War. The pacing is very fast, and works great for the comedic tone. It feels like a family or summer movie, in a good way.

The movie is also surprsingly touching. The family themes really got me invested, and even if they weren't as great for Janet's character, every scene with young Cassie worked for me.

Wasp was Amazing, and i think it's really nice to see a strong woman with so much agency in a super-hero movie. Another aspect that really made me happy was how Cassie wanted to be a super-hero just like her father. Having a young girl dreaming about becoming a super-hero is very inspirational, and i can't wait to see if she is becoming Stature in the MCU.

BatZach88 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:59:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I havent seen anyone talk about the Stan Lee cameo. Personally I thought that was easily a top 5 appearence from him...got the biggest laugh in the theater

doge_daelus ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 15:08:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

it just kind of felt off tho. in a lot of marvel movies, the stan lee cameo feels smooth and works with the current situation. example: stan lee cameo in homecoming. i personally felt like this cameo was just off putting and dragged me out of the movie

BatZach88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well I guess to each their own. I also liked the Homecoming one a lot since you mention it.

jbaker1225 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know that this one felt any more off than the others. I tend to hate the Stan Lee cameos in general, because they almost always seem very forced and out of left field to me.

LostTheWayILikeIt ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:52:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s a comedy and a superhero film, I know. But, you guys, I have questions.

HOW is Janet not emotionally and mentally unstable after being alone in an alien environment for over thirty years?

Also, where did she get access to makeup, a hair dryer, water, food, cloth, sewing supplies, etc?

69party69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:26:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the last scene in the Quantum Realm before they get into the Quantum Sub, when the camera pans out, you can catch a glimpse of a yellowish city.

In the comics, the Quantum Realm is called the Microverse, and entire civlisations exist there. Presumably the same is true in the MCU. So Janet probably got help there

sugar_free_haribo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:55 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The makeup was ridiculous

BrianWonderful ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She's far below the sub-atomic level. She's below the level where food, water, dirt, etc. even exist, so she'd have no need for those things. I don't think we know if she is unstable, or perhaps was and was able to work through it over that time.

gtsgunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:35:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I figure it would be almost like being in prison in solitary except trippy as fuck. I still think I'd lose my marbles if I was there for 30 years. I was really waiting for her to somehow go crazy nuts evil on us out of no where.

jakeshereck ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:17:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved Ghost! I love it when the villains don't get killed, so hopefully she'll play a role in future movies

the_chalupacabra ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:21:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like she'll be in IW2.

Piouslnquisitor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If she survived the snap

the_chalupacabra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh snap.

hoboneitor ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:39:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

About the mid cred scene. In IW we saw a ship destroying a city, how is that we dont see any reference to what is happening in wakanda? I mean the avengers are fighting all over the world and then nothing in this movie.

shuun00 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:12:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott may be on parole but the rest of the Ant man crew are fugitives of the law. Probably not much time to watch the news or have an active smartphone that can be traced.

Alertcircuit ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:12:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

All they know is that the Avengers fought Maw and the spaceship left. I assume the news team weren't covering Wakanda.

hoboneitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Im not talking about the battle per se, im talking about the ship that wrecked bronx or it was washington. Were is this movie located?

rohay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:23:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant man takes place in San Francisco also it unclear if Ant man or Hawkeye where actually contacted or if black widow just knew they where on house arrest and didn't bother contacting them at all

BrianWonderful ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Black Order only attacked where there were Infinity Gems, so they would not be in San Francisco. I'm kind of assuming the events of IW take place in the time after Janet is rescued and when the mid-credit scene takes place (they obviously needed time to build the new quantum tunnel).

VoidWaIker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:43:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The ship stuff was dumb I agree, but Wakanda is still a semi secret country so it makes sense that no one would know about that.

Starmedia11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Remember that the entire IW movie takes place over a very short period of time (a day or so?).

MarvelousShoes ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:58:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Another top tier Marvel movie. Great mix of funny, emotional, and badass

ceaguila84 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:06:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The movie was super funny and visual effects great. There were really no stakes but just a family trying to get back their mother so I was okay with that after the events of IW.

HOWEVER, the mid-credit scene killed me again lol

Seal412 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:26:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved it! The whole theater shrieked when it happened. Two girls next to me started crying. It reminded us that not everything was well and good in the MCU.

Bigpikachu1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why are you quoting yourself

mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

AWWWW that scene.

Thalesian ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:16:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The movie was great. But the countdown clock at Plankโ€™s distance was ridiculous. Time is not really a thing down there.

SpiderRealm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're right, time is not a thing down there. The countdown clock is for the surface world, (or whatever they call the regular sized world) so Hank knows how much time they had before they lost Janet's signal.

TheRooster27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If it's not a thing down there how did the mother age at the same rate as Hank?

TransposableElements ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:53 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Mine_is_nice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:28:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Quantum aging.

Yeshua1123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do you guys just put the word quantum in front of everything?

SpiderRealm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No idea, I'm new to the whole Ant Man and their quantum.

NihilsticEgotist ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:16:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wasn't expecting too much, but I actually liked this one much better than the first one. It also had some of the best humor in the MCU. And that mid-credits scene...

EDIT: Also, someone should really edit that clip where Hank starts up the Quantum Realm ship with Holdo's hyperspace kamikaze.

almostrambo ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:51:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Saw this tonight.

It was a decent story that was real funny. I wasn't a fan of the first film, but this one hit all the right notes. I'm hoping there's another Ant Man movie now, with Evangeline Lilly back in because I feel she is why a lot of this worked so well. Rudd and her play off each other well.

There is a mid credit and end credit scene for those wondering.

EDIT: The FBI guy had a break out role. He could have been so forgettable, but he made that character stand out.

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:10:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

the asian fbi actor is pretty famous already.

he stars in a sitcom on ABC called fresh off the boat, played Kim in The Interview, had 1 but very memorable scene in the office

TrendWarrior101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:00:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget "The Interview" as well!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i did

Kenyko ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:06:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He is an actual Character in the Comics. Jimmy Woo.

chimmychangas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Awesome, get this guy into SHIELD!

darkeyes13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:31:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He already has a TV show he's a regular on.

Lean_Mean_Threonine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Korean guy or Birch's mole?

annehuda ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:02:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott better be naming one of his rides Hugh Gr-Ant in the third movie.

NotRepublican ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:06:55 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did anyone else see what looked like a city in the quantum realm as hank and his wife left. It looked like it was in a bubble kind of like a gungan city in phantom menace.

Jenga_Police ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:54:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

YES!

I saw that and mouthed "what the fuuu-" in the theater. I was wondering why nobody else seemed to mention it online and I couldn't find anything about Quantum realm city on google. It seems like that's gonna be a big ass deal in the next movie. I mean, Hope's mom had that staff and gear that she must have gotten inside the quantum realm so there must be an entire civilization.

Also how is nobody calling The Wasp "Ant Ma'am" ?

SanityPills ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:37:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Jenga_Police ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:42:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's cool but there's a reason I'm avoiding reading comics or comic related stuff. Part of it is not wanting to spoil movie reveals, and part of it is that I know I'll act like a know it all douche if I do a bunch of reading before watching the movies.

SanityPills ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:58:55 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm hoping they start to steer more and more away from the comics, myself. Which it kinda feels like they're starting to do with Infinity War. Not just for the reason you mentioned, but also because they keep trying to cram these major comic book events with sometimes hundreds of super heroes involved into 2 hour films with 6 super heroes involved. Civil War probably being one of the biggest ones. They tried scaling down a massive story and I think it just didn't work because of it.

In any case, I think doing their own thing is for the better. Because then people don't feel like they're spoiling themselves by getting into the comics, and comic book readers aren't watching the movie already knowing what's going down.

Guardians is a great example. The movies are so far removed from the actual comics, yet still manages to be faithful and its own thing.

Jenga_Police ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:53 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agreed with all of that.

gtsgunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean they can use themes from the comics and make their own story variations with it. Ultron wasn't created by tony stark in the comics. Civil war was nothing like it's comic book version where peter parker outs himself and a rogue version of thor kills giant bill foster. etc I feel like they have been mostly doing that the entire time.

SanityPills ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They do it with the smaller movies, but then(after the first Avengers) they try and do the big story lines from the comics with what feels like spare parts. Civil War(movie) is a didn't feel like it's own story, it felt like they were trying to construct the comic book without having access to all the same materials, same with trying to tell an Ultron story. And both movies suffered greatly from it. Let's not pretend Age of Ultron was some greatly praised movie in the series, and more and more people are seeing the flaws of Civil War once the hype of Spider-Man being in the film died down.

Infinity War is really the only one, in my opinion, that has gotten things right, and that's largely because they focused on the character of Thanos and only really stole the Infinity Gauntlet from the comics and using it to bring together all the MCU stories instead of trying to force the Infinity Gauntlet story into the MCU.

But even then, I think they need to start doing more of their own thing, including not trying to name the movies after major comic events. Just let the MCU be the MCU.

gtsgunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you don't mind me asking, what was wrong with civil war? I've heard a lot of people didn't think it was that great so I'm wondering if I just have rose colored glasses when I think about it.

Onto your thoughts. I think them making their own story runs the same risk honestly. Look at all the spiderman movies for example. Adapting or taking ideas from the comics isn't a thing that's holding the mcu down. It all depends on how they take these ideas and use them. Some times they don't do it too well and you get age of ultron. Sometimes things really work out well and you get infinity wars. Iron man 1 took a lot of license from the comics and adapted it to our time and launched the series in a big way. Film makers just need to keep looking at what does and doesnt work.

Ant man and the wasp didnt work for me honestly and I think I finally figured out why. It's a relatively low stakes story and has what feels to me a relatively week villian (ghost wasnt really a villian in my eyes just an antagonist so when I say villian i really mean that guy in the suit) The enemies were more akin to factions rather than true villians. With the stakes being so low though, I honestly cared very little about the outcome of the movie. The movie tried to get me to care about old wasp but I ended up caring more about if ant man was going to survive house arrest or not. That was the largest thing at stake for me in this movie which in thought just becomes laughably silly in a good way.

The problem for me was this movie was definitely a comedy but a lot of the jokes fell flat for me. If I had been laughing more I could totally see my self getting over the weaker plot hooks. It was a fun watch but I could have honestly seen that mid credit scene and just skipped the movie completely.

SanityPills ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think much of the point stands with Spider-Man movies. The Raimi trilogy is an example of pure love letters to the character and are still regarded as some of the best super hero movies, with a third in the trilogy that goes to show what happens when a film studio with no clue what it's doing tries to heavily shove its hand into the pot of gold. The Garfield movies were like the third Raimi film, but to the max. They were movies made more from what the studio thought would make money rather than adhering to the comics, the character, or decent storytelling. And Homecoming, at least in my opinion, was an example of a perfect MCU movie, or at least darn close to it(still wish there wasn't so much Iron Man in the first solo movie). And it did exactly what I said, took elements of Spider-Man/Parker and adapted it into the MCU instead of trying to do something like make Spider Island happen in the movies.

As for Civil War, at least for me personally, I'd gladly go into detail about what I thought made it so strong. I honestly felt it was kind of weak from the get go, and went downhill from there. Starting with the inciting incident which just felt... Anticlimactic for heroes used to working on grand scales of saving large cities and even the world... And what puts them in legal trouble with the UN is the destruction of a single floor of a building with relatively minor casualties.

Them they tried to tie in all the movies, but had to heavily retcon the movies by ignoring whole facts about them. The Accords were all about making sure there was oversight for the Avengers, the major events being Avengers, Winter Soldier, and Avengers 2(and I think Thor 2? Which is a moot point either way because it was a fight of gods that the UN has no jurisdiction nor control over). Without Avengers 1 the world would have seen its end, and the Avengers DID have oversight by people who just wanted to nuke all of NYC to solve the problem which would have been a way worse outcome assuming it even solved the problem(and if anyone should be speaking up on this, it's Tony who risked his life averting the nuke). Winter Soldier happened EXACTLY because they had oversight and it was easily corrupted from the inside, and is an example of the exact opposite that the Avengers work best without oversight. Ultron is literally 100% Tony's fault. If Age of Ultron proves anything, it's that Tony thinks he's a god and needs oversight(especially since he's literally passing the buck by being on the side that thinks it's the fault of the Avengers as a whole).

A lot of character motivations seem murky at best, the worst of which being Hawkeye and Ant-Man. Both of whom have established in their previous movies that family is more important than super hero/criminal(in Scott's case) life... Yet they both show up and completely disregard this and just kind of roll with Cap, because... Reasons.

Then you had Tony who really didn't stick to his convictions. Every other second he was going behind the back of the UN to do stuff(include kidnap a 16 year old kid across international waters... But he's rich so laws don't apply to him anyway I guess). Including at the end where he can just never forgive Cap again... Then releases Cap and friends from prison(again, ignoring the oversight he so desperately claimed the Avengers needed).

The tone was way too jovial at times, and didn't take itself seriously when it needed to. You had friends fighting friends in heated battles, yet still found time to quip way too much like nothing was wrong. It makes sense quipping at enemies, which happens often in comic books, because there's nothing personal. It feels off when it's haha fun time between two sets of friends/companions that are at each other's throats. I'll give it to Spidey, though, as he didn't really know anyone on a personal level and just seemed to be along for the ride.

Pretty much all of the scenes felt like their entire purpose was too build to the next action scene. It didn't feel like there were any scenes designed for character building or anything else. Just what can move us towards the next action beat. Even the stuff with Bucky/Tony's parents felt like it was there to build towards the end action sequence when Tony finds out the truth. Which is not necessarily wrong, scenes should help move along the story to get to where things need to get to. But there needs to be scenes that involve character development, help us understand the characters better, build the world, etc. And if a scene does multiple of these then all the better a scene can be.

And at the end of the movie, personally, the whole thing felt like it was a setup for future movies. Like there was some checklist for future movies. 'Get Cap into Wakanda, check. Introduce Spider-Man and get him close to Iron Man, check. Spread the Avengers out a bit, check.' etc.

With Ant-Man and the Wasp, perhaps the stakes take different forms for those familiar with the comics. For Hank, there's usually no greater stake than Janet. Although the stakes of a story are a hard thing with Marvel movies. If you have high stakes it seems half of people get upset about it, and if you have low stakes than the other half get upset at it. Not sure there's exactly a winning move here.

gtsgunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:36 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

hmm, I like your opinions on civil war. They are very informative. I think I'm going to go and watch winter soldier and civil war again when I get the chance.

I think the biggest problem with the stakes being small was that I wasn't invested enough in the characters to feel the stakes the way they felt them. Like getting someones mother/ wife back should be like a big thing. In a personal family way that should be really powerful stuff.

I feel like the movie really failed at getting me to care about Janet though. Like I barely know this person so I have no passion for them. While on the other hand Scotts story was super fun and engrossing. Everything that had to do with Scott was pretty awesome in this movie and it's mostly because of everything that had been established with him. Even with out seeing ant man one though you can really see the loving family he has. How much they love him and how much he loves them even if he is divorced from the mother of his child.

When it comes to Janet though it feels like they tried very halfheartedly to make her mean something to us.

SanityPills ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's a thing in the comics, but I can't remember what exactly it's called. The Fantastic Four visit there on occasion. You basically shrink so far down that you enter into another dimension. I'll have to see if I can look it up right now.

gst4158 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:54:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that. There are a few off shoot comments that make me curious - like the time vortex thing at the end of the movie.

brainsapper ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:56:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Even though I went in expecting to see people get snapped as some tie-in for 'Infinity War' those credit scenes still gave me a good shock.

Evangeline Lilly was my favorite part of the movie. She did a fantastic job as The Wasp and I hope we get to see more of her in the MCU. I also appreciate the scope/scale of the conflicts in the Ant-Man movies so far. The first being pretty much a heist movie and the second one being a rescue mission/understand the Quantum Realm by Dr. Pym. Kind of a refreshing departure of the "Stop the villain from taking over the world/destroying the Universe" trope that every other MCU hero has to deal with.

I really only have three main gripes about the movie:

  • Did not like how the trailers used every single action scene in them.
  • So were they unable to perform some of the quantum tunnel experiments while the building was shrunk down or something? Yet Hank Pym traveled into the Quantum Realm while the entire building was shrunken down. Would't it have been easier to do all the major experiments while the building was shrunken down and safely hidden?
  • For violating the Sokovian Accords Scott seems to have gotten off pretty scot free.
CDuddng ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:15:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The ship Hank was in was gonna back out at full size so they needed the building back to regular size. Also Hank was already in the Quantum Realm when they shrunk the building again so it didn't affect him.

And Scott Lang isn't an accord signing Avenger, so I don't think he would've gotten as harsh a punishment

selotipkusut ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:22:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scot free

Heh

Bomber131313 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:49:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

those credit scenes still gave me a good shock.

I was honestly expecting it to happen to lets say to someone a little younger, add to the heartbreak shook factor.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:35:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Slightly more than have the people I have talked to interpreted the post (not mid) scene to imply exactly what you were saying. I find that unlikely given the fact that Scott was not home at the time.

Bomber131313 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:45 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I find that unlikely given the fact that Scott was not home at the time.

Yah, the kid wouldn't be at Scott's if he was off Ant-Maning at the time.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:17:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did anyone see

JoeyHollywood ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:28:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Your link just comes back here.

And no. I did not.

I did see a city in a bubble behind Janet VanDyne.

How crowded was your theatre? I saw a 5:30 showing and the cinema was very sparsely populated.

TinManOz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The link is a spoiler tag

Jesuspolarbear ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:18:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think Ghost is a really cool antagonist with a sympathetic background, and Hannah John-Kamen has an interesting presence that's somewhat dazzling. But I can't help to wonder Ghost's actual strength; she could phase and disappear at will but how could she gained all those superhuman strength (like kicking Scott through walls and stuff)?

And in the trailer there's a scene where Ant Man uppercuts a guy then Wasp took him down, but I noticed there's no such in the actual film?

Split_InfinityDarlin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:54:48 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True... where was that "You go high, I go low" scene from the trailer?

Kiwianimeguy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:38:47 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They did it just didn't stop and say the stuff before hand

PussyJuiceBox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Trailers always have scenes that don't often make the cut

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:48:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Felt like I got trolled by that after credits scene.

99213 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can't imagine anything will ever be as trolly as Howard the Duck as the GotG after credits scene.

smokefan4000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, this one was worse. We were all wanting another Infinity War tie in. The GOTG one was great because it introduced a new character, and a new aspect to the universe. We had already seen the ant playing drums before that.

99213 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We were all wanting another Infinity War tie in.

I don't know, none of the people I saw it with expected a second IW tie in scene, because the next Avengers movie isn't for a while, and we already got one tie in mid credits scene. We figured it would be the "one scene serious, one scene funny" thing they sometimes do (like in Thor: Ragnarok).

The GOTG one was great because it introduced a new character, and a new aspect to the universe.

What new character and what new aspect? We'd already seen the Collector throughout the movie, and Cosmo and Howard the Duck aren't exactly relevant to the universe other than a funny cameo.

blindwuzi ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:27:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ANTONIOOO!!!!

Adam_Absence ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:42:15 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lot's of fun, creative uses of Pym Particles (Scott's stand in ant was hilarious), and the music was surprisingly good for a MCU movie; this track has been in my head since yesterday

suarezj9 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:48:52 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man I loved it. Michael Peรฑa was hilarious. I enjoyed it way more than the first one.

Vucifer ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:37:54 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely enjoyed the first more but still had a fun time! Really wished we had the chance to see more of Scott and his old crew working together on their new company, they felt a little too sidelined. Hopefully in the next one, assuming everything works out in Avengers 4

ikanx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:52:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like it a lot more than the first one. The plot was more natural than the straightforward first one.

wordlifetn97 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:03:28 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought bringing Janet back, and her learning new powers while in the Quantum Realm was going to be a big key to resolving things in the next Avengers....and then she got snapped.

terablast ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:10:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But Scott is in the Quantum Realm, and he didn't get snapped!

chunkybuttflake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But gamorah is in the soul realm and also didn't get snapped

h3rp3r ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:03:39 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't jump out of the standard Marvel movie mold, but it was fun. I'll enjoy watching it again.

UtilityCurve ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:10:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder is the slide scene at the beginning a reference to the troll trailer he used at conan all the time

bewareoftraps ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:40:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought this film was a lot more wholesome than I expected. Which I think is a welcome relief after Infinity War.

For anyone expecting to get a glimpse of what happens after Infinity War.

No luck, as this movie happens prior to the snap. (End credit scene is what happens to them during the snap)

star_munch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:47:09 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s already been confirmed by casting and several set photos that Ant-Man is playing a major role in A4

bewareoftraps ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:03:51 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh sweet, I didn't really read up on casting notes, but it seemed like a way to put them out of A4. But I can't wait to see more Evangeline Lilly to be honest.

weebatwork ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:50:43 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Possible spoilers because rumors/leaked set pics but it's been rumored a lot that there will be time travel involved, and set pictures have shown Scott as Antman next to Cap in his classic outfit and Janet offhandedly mentions time vortexes in the Quantum Realm during the mid-credits scene.

Detoxbyretox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That makes sense, I thought that was too weird of a throwaway line for Pfeiffer to mention.

sweetcuppingcakes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:35:28 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Personally I hope the tardigrade fields factor in to Infinity War 2

thatandtheother ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:49 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Confirmed: Thanos eaten by tardigrade in Avengers 4. Unbalanced universe lives happily ever after.

haildecoysnail ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:23:34 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do y'all think Luis would get a suit? He said he wants one and he's okay with it not having a superpower. Him and Hope seems pretty cool with each other and he's very close with Scott, maybe they'll gift him a powerless suit? I mean, he's helped them a lot in their missions.

Covane ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:39:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I bet the xcon group gets some Pym gadgets in 3, or at least Luis

Rory_B_Bellows ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:22:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was hoping he would have been in the giant inflated suit when Scott ran from the Feds.

Swisskisses ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:29:39 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No because then he would be arrested for conspiring with super heroes.

haildecoysnail ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:24:39 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Giant Luis would be fucking hilarious!

ilikehockeyandguitar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:06 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I kinda thought that too. Still liked his involvement tho.

wildkarde07 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:18:55 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Plus he proved himself with the shrinking car =P

ilikehockeyandguitar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:37 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kinda thought it was Luis in the big Ant Man suit on the building.

NRDL ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:16:11 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When I saw Janet in the Quantum Realm with a sick looking spear my first thought was "how the hell did she get a Chitauri weapon?"

Then my mind went to stuff like Annihilus and the Negative Zone. Probably won't lead to anything sadly.

Smittius_Prime ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:04:30 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The spear was made from her wings I believe.

NRDL ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:52:32 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In all likelihood, you're right.

MechaMonarch ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:57:51 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It looked like a makeshift weapon. Either cobbled together from her armor or a piece of the trippy landscape.

Blueflamealchemist ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:41:03 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ok, I get the weapon, but how did she eat? Water? Where did she go poop? How did she survive the quantum realm? If youโ€™re at that size, so you need to sustain your human flesh? When she came back, would she be starving bc she hadnโ€™t eaten anything in 30 years?

Deepcrows ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:38:00 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the quantum realm, you only need to eat and poop once every 300 years, because quantum

zoethebitch ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:20:45 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also a perpetual supply of eye shadow.

Deepcrows ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:23:05 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

that's tardigrade poop

jumpinjahosafa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:48 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe the healing stuff is also nourishing stuff so you don't need to eat.

You can poop anywhere though, no reason why not

dorkhype ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:50:19 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty sure her suit had 1 wing still attached, I assumed the spear was made from the other wing.

Grokrok ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:21:38 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Janet just can't catch a break.

T3Sh3 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:13:39 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m so sad Janet, Hope, and Hank were DELETED

desperaste ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:56 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For a 50% kill rate the avengers are really fucking unlucky.

Iamsaxgod ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:58:22 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So Iโ€™m thinking the buyer of Hanks lab is ten rings. Iโ€™m also wondering if the man who hired x-con isnโ€™t the actual Mandarin. I have this theory that 10 Rings will be the Hydra type villain for this next phase of films. Guzman was mentioned when whatโ€™s his face was on the ferry. A Guzman showed up on Iron Man 3. So I keep thinking they are telling us itโ€™s 10 Rings and The Mandarin.

Stefferdiddle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:42:39 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™d rather see the return of a Justin Hammer. I <3 all things Sam Rockwell.

Gremliner00 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:35:15 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was ok. The action scenes involving Ant Man and Wasp doing Ant Man and Wasp things were top notch, Michael Peรฑa and co. are still charming enough, the cast did their jobs just fine, and the story itself was ok, but overall, it felt kind of boring. Also, what pissed me off were the plotholes. In the first film, if I remeber correctly, you must wear the suit at all times if you change sizes, because otherwise you would die, but in this one, Scott sometimes has his fucking helmet off when he's bigger or smaller, but since he isn't in the sub-atomic "world", I guess we can skip over that. But, and this is unforgivable, when Hank goes to save his wife and meets up with her, none of them are wearing proper suits, and this plothole just took me out of the movie completely. Ghost was poorly executed as a villian, and just came off as annoying instead of tragic, and the Texan guy was jus "meh".

Overall, you could do a lot worse, and after seeing the mid-credits scene, I'm looking foward to seeing more of Ant Man in Avengers 4. but compared to other MCU movies, it's definitly one of the weakest entries in the sharred universe.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:01 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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crc2993 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:20:41 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is the same with many Marvel movies when the characters can't keep their fucking masks or helmets on

There's actually a very good reason for this. DC has the benefit of many of their characters wearing half masks or no mask. Unfortunately for Marvel, a lot of their characters have full face masks.

This means to get reaction shots during big fight sequences, the filmmakers have 2 options: 1. Animate the mask to show reaction (what they did with the new Spiderman mask) which runs the risk of it looking really cheesy, or 2. Find some reason for the mask to come off. One of the best examples is in the Spiderman trilogy when Peter Parker's mask ends up torn or ripped in almost every big fight.

Marvel has gotten pretty created with how they handle this, especially lately. Mechanical mask for Spiderman, phasing masks in Black Panther, but sometimes the easiest and best solution is to just have them take off their mask.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:05 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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crc2993 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:07 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You mean when the eye slots in the mask magically change shape to show expression? Yeah.. that was stated option 1 and unless they have a grounded reason that's at least somewhat believable (mechanical eye slots like Spiderman), it usually comes across as extremely cheesy which can be used for comic effect but not so much for serious/dramatic scenes.

seekerheart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:03 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

they usually need to take their masks/helmets off to show emotion, an actor can only do so far to portray something without his face.

That's why we have closeups of Tonys face inside the helmet almost everytime he's in the suit, same with rhodey, etc.

Gremliner00 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:57:20 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm aware of that. In fact, whenever the characters aren't engaged in combat, not wearing the helmet works really well in these films, and the Tony close ups work great to show us more emotion due to the solid helmet. And I don't mind Ant Man taking his helmet off in that case, but the plothole of him taking it off when he size shifted is what bothered me a bit. A solution to show emotion when a character is wearing a helmet or mask is to focus on the eyes, wich this film, Ant Man 1, and, Captain America: Civil War did and it worked just fine.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:25 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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seekerheart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:40 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Are you serious like are you 100% serious here? The audience /is/ very dense, goddamn homie really be comparing the audience of V for Vendetta to the audience of Ant Man and the Wasp like they're the same.

Its almost like marvel doesnt make movies for a way wider, younger audience. Its the complete opposite of movies like V for Vendetta, kids wont be able to grasp 30% of the movie if it was anywhere close to V for Vendetta film-wise

Gremliner00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:37 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't have a problem with the characters taking their helmets off when not engaging in combat, my problem was the plothole of the size shifting and him not wearing his helmet, because it was established in the first movie.

This film is sort of like Iron Man 2 and 3: not really good films perse but the cast give enough charm and talent to make it feel decent.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:00:00 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Gremliner00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:41 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like Marvel movies but I agree that the humour is really hit or miss, and that Banner example is on point.

PokeMasterWrath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:25 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Texan guy

How dare you besmirch Boyd Crowder?

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:58:25 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, that was much better than I expected it to be.

Squeezycakes17 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:33:13 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

the jokes were on point

maxi326 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:38:41 on October 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It is much better than the first one.

If is a family/comedy movie, the bad guys are not even so bad.

darkarrow42 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:58:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The contrast of the lighthearted fun and more relaxed nature of Ant-Man and The Wasp against the cynical dread in the Infinity War tie-in scene was brutal. It took me back to sitting in the theatre in April and just knowing how dire everything is. It was fantastic to remind us how much will be at stake in A4.

Plus. Scott still being in the quantum realm? That'll be intresting to see unfold. I wish Janet could've survived the Snap at least, especially given her new powers. That'll come into play a bit more eventually though.

Overall, it was a nice and relaxing breath to take after Black Panther and Infinity War, until the after-credits scene at least.

LuminaTitan ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:21:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did anyone else think that they added one too many former associates of Hank Pym? I think it would've worked better if they'd simply made Laurence Fishburne's character as Ava's father, and have her mother be the sole casualty of that experiment. It would've made Fishburne's character have a stronger impetus towards helping and saving Ava, and the resolution with Michelle Pfeiffer healing Ava would also be stronger, as it would represent that lost maternal symbol to her as well.

thecursedham ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:33:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked that Bill came in as a foster parent for her. He really doesn't need to help her, but he knew that girl didn't deserve this and tried to do right by her for no reward. The scene where she hugs him at the end is extra touching because he really doesn't need to stay, he fulfilled his promise but he chooses to stay whereas the biological dad him staying would seem more expected.

2TrikPony ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:31:22 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And then Laurence Fishburn and Michelle Pfeiffer do it.

52ndstreet ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:20:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m bummed I saw the entire car chase scene in the trailers. It wouldโ€™ve been awesome seeing a giant Hello Kitty pez dispenser for the first time in the theater.

Hate how trailers these days basically reveal the entire movie.

Swisskisses ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:30:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They saved elementary sized Scott for us. Isnโ€™t that enough

TheHoundThatRides ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:55:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They saved elementary sized Scott for us. Isnโ€™t that enough

I actually saw that joke sequence in a trailer before Incredibles 2.

vyrusrama ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:02:18 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When Janet meets Hank in the Quantum Realm and when they board the ship, did she call him "Henry" once? did that actually happen or did i mishear it completely?

hungoon ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 21:13:49 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, hank is another form of Henry. Like Dick and Richard, or Bob and Robert

In-China ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:21:29 on August 30, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Peg and Margaret

mertje333 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:11:13 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was confused too but his wiki says his name is henry 'hank' pym

bellsofwar3 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:04:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I guess Janet "adapting" is how she didn't eat for 30 years?

howahlah ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:14:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think I've figured it out. You know how Scott gets really tired when he grows too big? Presumably that's because of increased metabolism and energy consumption. Well, the converse happens when you shrink - your energy consumption goes down. So, Janet would have had enough energy in her regular human form to sustain her quantum size for years, if not millenia. Now, I don't know where the energy is stored, but I thought it was a neat explanation. Just my theory.

bellsofwar3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:05:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can buy this. Then what about her aging like someone said. I know I'm nit picking here and it's a movie.

howahlah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well it seems like time passes as quickly in the quantum realm as it does in the real world (even though they said that all concepts of time and space as we understand it cease to exist in there). I'm thinking back to the first Ant-Man movie where Scott goes in and out of the quantum realm, and the same amount of time seems to have passed in real life. So that explains why Janet still aged.

FuckWithDurian ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:55:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Improvise

WinstonsTasteGood ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:54:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Quantum realm, man. Shit's all crazy down there.

TakenakaHanbei ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:24:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I figured the healing energy was capable of sustaining her all those years.

valinkrai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:44:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And also somehow aged. I feel like you should get one but not the other.

chancesarent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:57:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She had some sort of bladed weapon on her back. I figured there were creepy crawlies of some sort down there that she was hunting and eating.

joea62484 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:40:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Looked like she turned one of her wings into a spear like weapon.

69party69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:20:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the comics, the Quantum Realm is called the Microverse. There's entire civilisations of tiny humanoids there.

In the last Quantum Realm scene in the film, when the camera pans out from Hank and Janet, you can see a glimpse of a yellow/golden city.

She presumably had contact with the inhabitants during her stay there

bellsofwar3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:33:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank for this. I was ignorant on the quantum realm but this makes perfect sense.

chillerguava ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:33:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was worth the money for the end credits scene alone

SBrooks1 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 05:42:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So is Janet Van Dyne the first mutant in the MCU? She said she evolved and now she has powers outside the Quantum Realm. I feel like her evolution is a subtle mutant reference.

Uncanny_Doom ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:36:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A Marvel mutant is typically someone specifically linked to having the X gene and involving a person evolving through naturally aging. Janet is implied to have changed due to exposure to the Quantum Realm so to me that's not really any different than Bruce Banner evolving from exposure to gamma radiation or anything like that.

She's a "mutate", or for DC fans, a metahuman.

wildwalrusaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I doubt the MCU is going to get that granular. They'll likely just call her an "enhanced" like they did with SW and Quicksilver

Uncanny_Doom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:49 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True, I just wanted to clarify what mutant means when people talk about it in relation to the X-Men and stuff like that. Janet definitely isn't a mutant.

HenyrD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She might have been.. had she not faded into dust ;__________;

Bitey_the_Squirrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

First and the last

xTheLeprechaun ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 13:47:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Human population decimated, check. San Francisco location, check. Genetically engineered species left behind, check.

The next Ant-Man movie will be โ€œDawn of the Planet of the Antsโ€

schizoid_clown ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:34:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Decimated? Na man we've been cut In HALF. Those ants will have their movie before we even know it

dewsh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wouldn't the Ant population be cut in half too?

macho760 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:45:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

avengers 4 will make so much money holy shit

shadowCloudrift ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:59:29 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I enjoyed the unapologetic, silly fun with this movie. It's a breath of fresh air after Infinity War and Black Panther, which were more serious films. Moreover, I like the smaller scope of searching and saving Hope's mom as oppose to saving the world or universe.

I always like how grounded the Ant-Man films are. There are tons of people in the MCU(films and TV shows) with daddy issues, but here in this movie you have Hope and Hank working side-by-side in the film, which is refreshing. I was surprised by the screen time Michael Douglas has, but he has great comic relief especially with Paul Rudd. Hope is also interesting because of how she's part of a family of superheroes... well until that mid credits scene.

Scott Lang though is arguably the most relatable, grounded Marvel superhero and that's thanks to Paul Rudd's "everymaness." Scott's fit for sure, but nothing like Thor or Captain America. He's also smart with his electrical engineering background, but not to the extent of Hank Pym, Bruce Banner, or Tony Stark. Guy is also an average fighter compared to all those martial arts masters like Black Widow, Cap, etc. He's also isn't some quipping machines and a lot of time his humor comes from stating absurdities(baseball cap disguise) or being the butt of jokes too.

Really like Evangeline Lily's chemistry with Paul Rudd. All the jabs she frequently gave him were great. How did she change into her Wasp costume so fast after the first meeting with Sunny?

The villains were weak though. Sunny kind of felt like a joke villain, which work I guess given the movie's tone. Ghost was more of a misunderstood villain who just wanted to live. Her powers were interesting though and the co-op attack with Wasp and Ant-Man to defeat her was cool.

Also the product placements kind of felt obvious in this film especially with Hyundai? That said, was hoping for a return of Baskin Robbins as a joke.

cbear013 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:25:47 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

TBF to Hyundai, they put a featurette at the beginning of the film disclosing their sponsorship and giving some behind the scenes on Luis' chase scene.

Ianskull ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:14 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

thats awful. who wants to see a chase scene from a movie they haven't seen before but are just about it to dissected before theyve even seen the opening credits? i was pissed i had a pre-movie featurette where i learned that a) there was a 'supervillain' type bad guy and b) what her powers and personality are. the hyundair thing would be worse because they ruin a scene right before you see it and also rub your face in the product placement

cbear013 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:40:45 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd much prefer the product placement rubbed in my face than have the company and movie pretend that it isn't product placement. Disclosure is a good thing. Movie studios should be held to the same if not higher standard than internet creators, who are required by law to disclose sponsorships. Studios don't have the same responsibility, but they should, so it's nice to see them be upfront about it for once.

bash0man1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:00 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

TBF, Hyundai Motor Finance is a bitch of a company.

Zealot360 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:18 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like they revealed Ghost's misunderstood villain status way too early in the film. Wiped out her mysteriousness and greatly reduced her menace because you could already anticipate that they'd somehow turn things around and rescue her or that she'd maybe redeem herself by the end.

shadowCloudrift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:37 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I agree with you there. Her being a mysterious, amazing fighter where tid bits of history was dropped throughout would have been a lot more interesting. I guess the movie just really want to focus on the saving Janet plot.

ListerineFlakes ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:33:42 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So Scott, Hope, Hank, and Janet were doing science experiments while the fate of the universe was at stake?

vonindyatwork ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:24:43 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The first part on earth takes place in, what, the span of an afternoon? Then it shifts to the most secretive place on the planet, Wakanda.

Nobody outside of the Avengers had any idea shit was going down.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:10 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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NuibaraEterronusufle ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:11:16 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Uh, not at all. Why do you think Ant-Man never appeared in any of the Avengers movies? Because Hank doesn't want to help them. He hates the Stark family and he doesn't want anyone to know about the Pym particles. I guess everyone just kinda forgot about that after Ant-Man showed up in Civil War, huh? This movie literally touched on how mad Hank was...

Also, there is nothing that indicates Scott having any of the Avengers' contact. Cap's team was all in hiding, so it's not really possible to contact them. In Civil War, it was Falcon/Hawkeye that contacted him rather than the other way around.

Furthermore, the events in Infinity War happened quite quickly. Even Nick Fury didn't know what was going on before he got dusted, so why would you think Scott + others would know? They probably spent the whole day doing experiments and didn't watch the News.

Your biggest problem is that you aren't considering the perspective of the characters. You're thinking from the audience's perspective. "If I know this and this, then why don't the characters know."

RSMagic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:28:55 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Remember what happened the last time Scott went off to help Cap?

WitherWithout ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:06:42 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That, and Ant-Man & The Wasp was 3 months before the events in Infinity War (besides mid-credits scene).

humbletales ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:42:17 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In Infinity War they say that Scott is still under house arrest don't they?

WitherWithout ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:43:04 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They weren't allowed to keep in contact with him. I'm not sure they even knew when his sentence was up?

Decilllion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:40 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not sure what they could have done. Scott's still on probation even after the house arrest is over. They would see the New York thing on TV or whatever which ends quickly. They are in San Fran. Must have thought Tony saved the day.

Then as they are busy getting ready for the experiment maybe they hear some vague news about disturbances in Africa. That doesn't seem worth breaking the Accords over.

SchoolShooterMcGavin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:07 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Every spacefaring government would immediately be aware of the spaceships chilling in orbit to deposit the Black Order and Outriders, even if Wakanda is secretive. It would have been on the news everywhere

But honestly it's not a terrible mistake

Bakatora34 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:05 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why could you think governmants could reveal that info to the public? that asking for a panic population making things worse. Also. we saw it at the post credit scene in infinity wars, everyone was busy in their normal lifes, except for Nick Fury and Maria Hill.

SchoolShooterMcGavin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:24 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Amateur astronomers would be able to observe it. Fuck, people on the goddamn street could. One of them just touched down in New York.

Even if it wasn't already knowledge available to the public, I don't know why you'd think a government would be able to keep such a gigantic important secret for long. As I said, it's a bit of a plot hole.

TheHoundThatRides ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:16:42 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Antman would have just seen that something happened in New York, the Avengers got involved, and everyone went up into space.

He'd go "huh...that's weird. Hope the Avengers are ok." and he would just go back to his life. A day or 2 later, the Wakanda battle would be happening but Antman would have no idea about it or the significance to the universe.

Grokrok ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:44:45 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Doubtful the rest of the world was even aware of the battle in Wakanda, it's hidden from the world. By the time anyone who is not an Avenger, Shield, or Wakandan was aware of the battle, the snap happened.

AnalogHumanSentient ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:58:10 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To don't know, the sheer size and number of those ships landing on the battlefield, including the wheeled buzz saw things, would have been very noticeable to militaries and news agencies across the planet. Plus don't forget, Wakanda had since "come out" after The events of the Black Panther movie, and was engaged in various trade and welfare programs across the African continent, if not the whole world.

Grokrok ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:53:56 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Except Wakanda is actively shielded from the outside world, to the rest of the world it's appears to be nothing more than jungle. You would have to be inside Wakanda to see the attack. A military satellite might pick up the ships in space before the attack or during their descent, but then they would disappear near the surface. Again, highly doubtful members of the public were aware of their impending doom.

Nanobreak_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:08:39 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not hidden anymore after Black Panther

Grokrok ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:18:57 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

IW showed them passing through the "invisibility" barrier, so it is literally hidden to the eye. The attack was not visible to the rest of the world, only to those involved.

gom99 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:12:44 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Follow your logic, alien ships passed through an invisible barrier. Prior to going through the barrier, they were...

Himu797 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:00:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Truth serum part is one the best things in all of Marvel movies.

meepbo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:23:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott's going in the time vortex for sure right? That wasn't a throw away line

bigpig1054 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:45:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost ended up a surprisingly strong villain with a solid motivation. The trailers presented her as just a one-note โ€œbad guy with a better suitโ€ but instead they made her โ€œpowerโ€ a weakness that she has to exploit. Really clever, I thought.

MoreGull ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:46:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott Lang deserves "Best Grandma Ever" for that insane cardboard labyrinth and roller coaster.

warf3re ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:53:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Through out the entire movie i was expecting someone to turn into dust and it delivered. The tone of the movie shift immediately and matched the tone of infinity war. Cannot wait for A4!!!

devw94 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:42:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was I the only one that was extremely tense at the end as โ€œCome on Get Happyโ€ played? I was expecting Cassie and Hope to fade into dust as it cut to black

The post credit scenes here make Thanos even more terrifying in my book as it further displays the ramifications of his actions, especially the one with the EBS playing. Pure dread after such a fun film.

OldboySamurai ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:55:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved the movie but one thing really bothered me.

So, Pym &co can shrink building, take them around and unshrink them again on any level ground. How does that work with foundations, utilities like plumbing and electricity?

Malachi108 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 10:49:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He never shrunk an existing building. Instead he build a scale model, increased its size, had the equipment brought inside and ordered his ants to attach everything to wall/floor. A real building wouldn't have a handle to carry it around like luggage.

OldboySamurai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:52:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good theory. Doesn't explain the beach house though...

Malachi108 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:21:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank fits the definition of crazy prepared. Between the tank chain, the car selection and the lab building he definitely had the time and the means to make the beach house work.

69party69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:22:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Quantum toilets man

Kwijiboe ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:59:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did you not see the giant Duracell battery?

OldboySamurai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, but it still don't make the house on the beach seem like house i'd wanne live.

Nice moment though - a bit of happy ending before, well you know.... Thanos.

ImAScientist_ADoctor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:17:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I assume they can afford stark tech batteries, don't know about the water but maybe they have water tanks and filtration systems build in? Technology is really advanced in their world.

fascist___hag ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:19:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha my friend said the same thing about the house he popped up on the beach for Janet. "that's cute and all but... where's the plumbing?"

soybrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Internal plumbing and lots of generators

Dawn-Shade ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 11:15:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can anyone give explanation to me on why the lab or its inside doesn't go sub-atomic on the car chase scene? It was shrunk twice when the car got shrunk while it still inside. It's been bothering me.

Someone here mentioned the lab was actually a scale model enlarged to a normal size building but what about the equipments inside?

[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 11:34:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If they shrink to ant size, the lab would be like a piece of sand. Still way bigger than an atom.

Dawn-Shade ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:42:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was it not necessary to go smaller than an atom to trigger it?

In the first movie Lang shrunken twice when fighting Yellow Jacket so he can go inside his suit and destroy the electronic components, but that resulting him to go unstable and he become sub-atomic. Janet did the same when she tried to destroy ICBM.

They both are still bigger than an atom or they won't be able to cause destruction to the electronic components.

ZacPensol ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:01:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I believe it's because they switched off their regulators which caused them to shrink to the size they needed to be to damage the stuff, but then kept shrinking to subatomic.

Dawn-Shade ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:01:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I see. Thanks for the great explanation! Turns out the key word I missed was โ€regulator" after all.

blackgaylibertarian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:54:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The lab was shrunken ro like 1/10000 its original size. It would need to shrink like a million more times to go to subatomic size. It was probably the size of a mint in the car, and the equipment maybe a few grains of sand.

weeaboii ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:08:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Going by the "time works differently in the quantum realm" and all the quantum energy thing, maybe Scott will have sufficient exposure in there to..... evolve and get minor quantum powers like Janet? Maybe....?

Apocalyptic0n3 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:24:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked this movie a lot more than the first one and I think a lot of that it was thanks to Ghost. I loved that she was the antagonist without being a villain and that she was more than a match for the heroes. I also liked that they defeated her without killing or vanquishing her; no, they defeated her by helping her achieve what she wanted and then turned around and continued their research to further help her. It's such a great change of pace from the usual Marvel villains (as was Thanos, for that matter).

Now excuse me while I impatiently wait two more long weeks for the fourth season of Killjoys so I can get more Hannah John-Kamen

absolutedesignz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I do feel Goggins was wasted though...he did great in his role (As always it seems) but like with Tomb Raider the character just wasn't given much.

Apocalyptic0n3 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:08:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have to agree. He's wasted on characters that aren't given enough screen time to flesh out their personalities (his personality and, more importantly, his inherent charm are his best assets). I'd like to see him in the third film as the primary antagonist. A Klawe-like character doing the bidding of his powerful buyers who, like Thanos in Avengers, are the true villains. I can't imagine we will see a primary antagonist without powers at this point, though. Helmet is really the only primary antagonist to date that had no powers and didn't gain any, and he was more catalyst than antagonist.

ha7on ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:03:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not bad. Weird that they put the end credit scene in the trailer.

trickertron ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:11:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was weird in general because that was also the clip that Pym saw when he was checking in on the ant decoy for Scott. It just felt like "why did I wait five extra minutes to watch this again?" Great movie overall I just thought that last scene was pointless.

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:13:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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itaboranius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:16:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly this

Seal412 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:35:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was the emergency broadcast system. They don't have it as much but its the sound that plays on TVs during a major emergency. Ironically, it wasn't done on 9/11 as far as I can remember.

RGVyankee ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:39:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"How about a juice box?" That part was priceless

JeffDenlon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:21:04 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Do you really have that?"

BigMacWithGreenBeans ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And a string cheese!

StayPuffGoomba ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:21:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not sure if anyoneโ€™s said it yet but...

Oh snap!

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:48:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What did you do?

VRomero32 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:04:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I will say they definitely did a great job balancing the comedy with the adventure tone and probably one of the better, deep casts in the MCU especially Michael Pena, who seriously impressed me with his ability to do both drama and comedy.

NittanyEagles55 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:09:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm glad Luis got the chance to one hit punch someone again! Loved him doing that like 4 times in the first one, glad they kept the tradition alive.

texas_joe_hotdog ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:35:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So i was hoping Janet would come out still the same age she went in, like the 30 years or so were only like 30 seconds to her. Kind of like a Flight of the Navigator deal. Hank repeated that time and space act differently in the Quantum Realm

It seems to raise more questions having her age appropriately then to keep her in her young. How did she pee? Did she sleep? Eat? I'm shocked she still can speak english after have no one to talk to for 30 years.

Bluestagg360 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:16:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The quantum realm is a new universe. There's a lot we don't understand and I don't think it's that simple. She said she has changed a lot in there. It could have been 300 years for all we know. I'm sure we will find out more about it evantually

vzo1281 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:24:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Your last sentence is interesting. Is someone supposed to forget to speak a language after not speaking it for a period of time?

Crashtester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Short answer: no

Lahiho ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:31:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Longer answer: Yes it is possible and at the very least she wouldn't be speaking fluent English after 30 years of not using it.

cocacola150dr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:29 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You still have an inner dialogue though. It's not like a person is just going to cease all use of the English language (or whatever language they speak) if they're alone. You're still going to at least think, if not think out loud to problem solve. Also, you'd go insane from the monotony and solitude before you even got remotely close to forgetting the language.

texas_joe_hotdog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:48 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. I knew a kid in gradeschool who was from Italy but grew up speaking English as as second language. After 8th grade, his family moved back to Italy. He spoke Italian primarily and after about 5 years forgot how to speak english properly. When he came back after college, he had to learn English over again.

A bit anecdotal, but there you have it.

oj_plympton ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:12:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Are Scott and Hope a couple in the comics? As far as romance goes in the MCU, they're probably my favorite. I like how their infatuation is shown in the movie; it's there but subtle.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:40:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s complicated.

The main Ant-Man and the Wasp in Marvel Comics is Hank Pym and Janet van Dyne. Hank was a scientist, and so was Janetโ€™s father Vernon van Dyne. They knew each other, and when he was killed, Janet convinced Hank to help her become a superhero so that she could avenge her fatherโ€™s death.

They then went on to found the Avengers. Janet instantly fit in and held her own, while Hank was suffering from mental illness and he constantly felt he was lesser than the rest of the team. It didnโ€™t help that Janet used to use her relationships with the other members to get his attention.

Anyway, Hank and Janet did get married. Eventually they broke up and divorced. Theyโ€™ve been off and on through the years. They donโ€™t have any actual children together in the comics, so Hope doesnโ€™t really exist. Thereโ€™s was a story that took place in an alternate universe where they have a child named Hope, so thatโ€™s where the name comes from but otherwise she doesnโ€™t exist.

CrashB111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:45 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also Hank invents Ultron, not Tony.

Which leads to some weird, robo-sexual version of Janet that Ultron builds.

Rykerham ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:27:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t know if it was the same in the US and other countries, but loved that he used Mary Ant-oinette and Ant-onio Banderas as names.

spiralnotebook ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:32:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And Ulysses Gr-ANT.

following_eyes ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:50:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is better than the first and overall just a great addition to the MCU. I loved it.

CaptainLang ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:27:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Question for the sub: who do you think will save Scott from the Quantum Realm?

Beethovens_Stool ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:35:03 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think anyone will, he's going to enter a time vortex(intentionally or otherwise) and emerge into the past/alternate reality and encounter Tony Stark. Don't forget, he'll be carrying that canister of quantum energy, too, guaranteed to power something Tony will cook up.

CaptainLang ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:41:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good point. That is something I hadn't considered. The quantum energy might be needed for something more important than helping Ghost.

scottperezfox ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:10:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Helping Dr. Strange or Captain Marvel.

Bolthead44 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:53:02 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No one. Heโ€™s going to jump into one of those time vortexes Janet told him to stay out of and it will spit him out in another time.

cartoongiant ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:31:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would guess Ghost and Laurence Fishburne since she needed what they were gathering and Fishburnes character could probably figure out what to do.

FSchmertz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. He knows Pym Tech, and may find the quantum tunnel and he'd know how to operate it.

Tricky4279 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:24:44 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel the need to point out how dumb that setup was. Scott should have been in control of shrinking and enlarging for precisely the reason shown in the movie.

LkMMoDC ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:37:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Precisely. They should have given him control so when an angry purple alien from the moon Titan collects 6 stones that control the universe then snaps his fingers to destroy half Scott would be able to pull himself out. I mean, this is the precise scenario I think of when installing safety features.

deadbeef4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:44:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It could happen!

Tricky4279 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Okay, maybe not this precise reason, but Scott still should have had control just in case he loses contact or mission control becomes incapacitated in one way or another.

Desertanimal ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:28:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd like to imagine Cassie and her step dad survived the snap but her mom didn't. We'll get a heartwarming scene between Scott and Paxton as he leaves Cassie in his care so he can go save the world.

Zer0Fucks2Give ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:41:25 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That works as a nice mirror to the Pym father-daughter-missingmother storyline they've got running through the two films

SlumberCat ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:42:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Cure, Morrissey...maybe Joy Division/New Order in the next one?

Threethirtysix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would love to hear Candidate in Captain Marvel.

WhatTheFhtagn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:53:48 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ot in Avengers 4. Imagine Elegia playing during the opening credits as they show the fallout from the Thanos snap all over the Marvel universe.

Threethirtysix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My brain would melt.

icestationlemur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Day of the Lords is a phenomenal song

AlbinoCrusader ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:29:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked the movie overall, I think they did a pretty good job trying to balance all the new characters and kept allot of the same humor from the first but with better action sequences added in. The only thing that bugs me is by the time Thanos has snapped his fingers allot of crazy shit has gone down not just on other worlds/in space but on Earth too. I feel like Pym and company would have heard about it but they seem either oblivious or just super nonchalant about the whole thing. I could be not remembering things correctly too so who knows.

qkxz ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:20:56 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

new york happened in about 15 minutes tops and as far as they know the only thing that probably really hit the news is the fact that an attack happened and that stark is missing, something i don't think scott or the pyms care too much about.

scotland seems to have totally gone under the radar and i doubt anyone knew what was going down in wakanda since even nick fury only found out just before the snap

theyre also in another state and were pretty much constantly on the run (though we dont know the time between the ending of this movie and the snap). even during the post credits scene i believe the pyms are still technically on the run since they were never caught in the first place, and scott is on probation so they've probably been laying low while working on their quantum tech to help out ghost.

scott's only links to the avengers, falcon, nat, and cap were also on the run themselves and they were pretty much busy and constantly on the move, so when nat brought up that he was on house arrest that was pretty much that. neither side really had the time.

AlbinoCrusader ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:08:52 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, that makes sense

ZacPensol ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:08:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I've seen this pointed out a lot but what were Scott and the bunch supposed to do, really? The thing in NYC happened really quickly with Scott under house arrest on the opposite side of the country, and info about the stuff going on in Wakanda wouldn't've been spread quickly at all.

Yourponydied ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:08:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was waiting for the ant to fade away at the end shot

simmer_tomato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Silly ant! Balance is for smart creatures.

the_best_1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:15:40 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
  1. Scott has gotten himself out of the quantum realm before. Why canโ€™t he do it again?
  2. Hank could control getting in and out of the quantum realm in his (Quantum?) ship. Are you telling me he didnโ€™t implement the same technology into Scottโ€™s suit? They didnโ€™t think about a safety switch or anything if something were possibly to go wrong? Pretty stupid if Scott was totally reliant on a single control panel to get him in and out of the quantum realm.
KingOfSockPuppets ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:32:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
  1. He might still be able to, we don't know. Presumably he's wearing the updated suit so maybe there's technomumble as to why he can't right away, or he hasn't committed to an emergency solo enlarge because it's really dangerous without the help of the Bridge. I expect he'll jury-rig a solution just in time to join the B-team(s) and help save existence in Infinity War 2 though.

  2. The ship was using the Quantum Bridge I don't think it had new and improved tech that let you safely move to and from the realm without the help of the bridge. If it was that easy to get around, they wouldn't have needed the Quantum Bridge in the first place.

the_best_1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:49:25 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m content with this explanation

weebatwork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I believe Scott got out the first time because he had the disk that made things bigger that he replaced with his broken regulator. If he's wearing the new suit, there is no regulator so that solution won't work.

pecan_party ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:24:02 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone know what book Scott was reading at the beginning?

enderandrew42 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:37:51 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:48:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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redsyrinx2112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:38 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was great, especially the explanation by Luis!

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:11:41 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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prometheus_ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:18:30 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think that will work for a couple reasons:

  1. It's a different suit, with a different style of regulator
  2. He didn't use the suits power to shrink down the the QZ, so I don't think he can just grow out of it.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:15:54 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Kiwianimeguy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:00:24 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

he didn't know how he escaped last time either

BattlinBud ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:50:35 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder what Gregg Turkington will have to say about Tim Heidecker getting a cameo in this.

SlumberCat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:37:01 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just hope Eric Wareheim didnโ€™t get snapped before Avengers 4. Spagett must save the day!

romeopwnsu ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:29:57 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Peanut is crazy adorable.

ozbian ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:58:52 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The size shifting shenanigans was my favourite part of this movie. It's in turns an interesting shift of perspective and hilarous, and I love it.

I also love the humanising of criminals and the 'bad guys', the dynamics in the Ex Con crew are always fun to watch, I love them.

I kinda wish that the Baba Yaga's chicken footed house had made its way into Kurt's rambling

RichardCano ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:36:40 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So now Lawrence Fishbourne, along with Ryan Reynolds and Taika Waititi, decided that Marvel is better.

Read1984 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:54:19 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget Michelle Pfeiffer, she was Catwoman back in '92!

Bigoteroj ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:45:19 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A decent, lighter entry after Infinity Warโ€™s heavy impact. It certainly isnโ€™t as good as the first Ant-Man, but I think a lot of people are forgetting that this is supposed to be just some fun action to lighten the load a bit. The action scenes were expertly made, the chemistry of the actors was spot on; the only thing that bothered me was the humor. It just felt really forced. But otherwise, a colorful and engaging, but standard entry in the Marvel Universe.

B

Tunelowplayslow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:11:27 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The humour was great in my opinion. I'm usually cynical about films, but I laughed out loud more times than I can remember at pure comedies. The chemistry was great, I can't wait to watch it again.

Bigoteroj ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:59:04 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The chemistry was amazing. It really sells the idea of Ant-Man and The Wasp.

Itโ€™s kind of neat that we now have two pairs of them. I wonder if the title also serves Hank and Jannette as well as Scott and Hope.

bachh2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:24:19 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As someone who enjoyed the first Ant-Man movie, this one really fell short.

The ending was really lackluster and Bursch was really meh.

socraticmethod88 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:21:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the Quantum realm just became very relevant to the MCU

ClubSoda ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:46:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is there any woman on the planet more beautiful than Michelle Pfeiffer? Does she drink the milk from virgin unicorns?

semanticist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:57:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
the1egend1ives ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:47:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hannah John-Kamen is so fucking beautiful. This is the first movie I've seen her in and now I want to see all her works.

Tricky4279 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:05:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Watch Killjoys.

coolhandluck ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:15:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Memorable in Ready Player One. Also catch her Black Mirror episode.

Me like her.

mattmurdock11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I cannot remember her from ready player one at all for some reason.

Tequila_Se_lai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think she was the IOI security lady who goes all terminator on them at the end

coolhandluck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She was the main bad female character, the other corporate exec that was teaming with Ben Mendelsohn. Dutch boy haircut. Very sexy.

Big fight in the van at the end of the film and she gets kicked out into the road. Last scene she punches Ben in the police car.

Taserface616 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:32:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yup. Olsen and Johansson better move over. They have some competition from the Ant-Man ladies. Theyโ€™re both gorgeous.

JanuaryDynamite ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:22:06 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pros:

  • Paul Rudd is the highlight of this movie and brings it down to Earth. Scott Lang is some average guy who just happens to have access to a shrink suit, Rudd does a good job of bringing out this side of the character.
  • Despite the movie taking place BEFORE Infinity War, I did feel some sort of tension when they were rescuing Janet. Which I didn't expect to have since the stakes shown in the movie trailers seemed pretty low and uninteresting to me.
  • I found myself laughing a bit more than a usual Marvel movie, which I usually don't do. That was likely thanks again to Paul Rudd and some humorous running gags throughout the movie.
  • I like how Ghost's motivation was not to take over the world, make money, or to just cause mayhem for the heck of it. Not to say those motivations are always bad for a movie, but I do like a break from that.

Cons:

  • A lot of the important plot details were just sci-fi mumbo jumbo and it kinda took me out of the movie at some points. That's probably why the "Do you guys just stick 'quatum' in front of everything now?" remark stuck with me a lot.
  • Ghost's motivations weren't terrible but her blaming Pym for her dad's death seemed like a stretch.
  • Sonny (the other antagonist) just seemed like a nuisance and I never felt he was ever a threat to any of the protagonists. Plus his character essentially being unethical, shady business man #198456 is really going to make him forgettable like a lot of other Marvel villains.
  • This is kind of a nitpick but Ghost's costume just rubbed me the wrong way. It looked cheap and really uninspired. There was something jarring about seeing it when Ghost gets back to her chamber after stealing Pym's workplace. No idea if anyone else shares that same feeling though.

Overall:

I would recommend seeing this movie. If you just wanted a Marvel movie to ease you back in after Infinity War, this does the job. If you wanted a Marvel movie that keeps up with the serious tone of Infinity War (or a movie that ties into it ) you'll probably be dissapointed but might get a kick out of this anyway.

jim25y ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:39:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I actually liked that the movie didn't really have a villain. It was just an adventure movie where 3 different parties wanted the McGuffin for 3 different reasons.

joshmoxey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:18:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agree. It's so easy to do hero vs. villain. Much more interesting when there's multiple parties involved. Especially because we're trying to look for the clear villain who opposes our hero, but when it's not so clear it keeps us more on our toes.

OscarMiguelRamirez ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:13:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost had to be at least a little insane. She was basically being tortured physically, near-constantly while she was awake.

Nymaz ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:02:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost's motivations weren't terrible but her blaming Pym for her dad's death seemed like a stretch.

Ghost was a little girl who loved and idolized her father. She was raised by a man who hated Hank Pym. Given the choice of blaming her father for her situation or blaming a man she only knows of through someone constantly badmouthing him, which do you think she'd pick?

Ghost's costume just rubbed me the wrong way. It looked cheap and really uninspired.

It's fairly faithful to Ghost's costume in the comics, so make of that what you will.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:17 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s not that the design isnโ€™t faithful to the comics, itโ€™s the materials and production quality.

The scene OP is talking about in particular where she takes the helmet apart into two pieces at her apartment absolutely took me out of the film. It literally looked like 2 low end pieces of 3D printed plastic being snapped apart.

Itโ€™s a small squabble over all, but I definitely noticed the same thing. I think it caught my attention only because the Ant-Man/Wasp helmets look super weighty/realistic and look great.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:23 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, the suit looked super cheap. It looked like a snap together basic painted 3D printer job, when she takes it off at her apartment itโ€™s super noticeable.

Seems so strange to have crazy expensive CGI work and not throw a little cash at the wardrobe department.

[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 04:24:00 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did you see the after credits scene? the serious tone is still there

JanuaryDynamite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:05 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I am only talking about the actual movie. Not the post credit scenes. i made a separate comment on that so it didn't distract from my actual thoughts on the movie itself.

Edit: like if you're going to expect "the snap" to happen during the movie or if you expect any obvious hints for Infinity War Part II, both are obviously not in the actual movie.

notathrowaway75 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:16:09 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How is it so hard for the FBI to find a goddamn building? Like they get no tips at all about a disappearing building? Or can't they scan for suddenly appearing buildings somehow. It really should've been a small warehouse or a house, not a full sized building.

Burch was kind of pointless. I feel like he was only there to set up the shadowy organization paying him.

Besides those two nitpicks, great movie. Very nice to finally see an MCU movie to not feature two armies fighting each other like the last 3.

Grokrok ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:24:55 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

From the interior of Hank's building, it doesn't look like a "real" building, it looked like Hank built it in miniature, then enlarged it as needed. Some of the pieces inside looked like enlarged objects, such as the padlock on the wall. So it's not a shrunken full-size building, but an enlarged miniature, if that makes any sense. The house he set up on the beach also looked like it was made in miniature.

A normal building wouldn't work very well without a foundation under it, so the way these buildings could be enlarged and not crumble makes me think he engineered and built them as self-contained models that could be dropped anywhere and enlarged.

happycharm ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:43:04 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think you got it. And it would be cheaper for him to expand a miniature vs. Build or buy actual buildings and cars and shrink them. His cars were hot wheels right? Could have put in working parts after blowing up those cars.

Shikadi314 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:37:37 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The FBI gets a tip that he's at the University and go check that out, but they don't think to check the house where he lives? Lol okay movie

talkingBS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:50 on August 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Burch was kind of pointless. I feel like he was only there to set up the shadowy organization paying him.

The Sinister Six, perhaps? Osborne? I had a distinct Vulture vibe from that.

alphasquid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:34 on August 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Burch was there to provide thugs for the big action sequences, cause otherwise it would have just been Ghost. They also used him to involve more characters in the film and move parts of the plot along.

LevynX ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 13:34:17 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As I was walking into the theatre, it occurred to me what makes me pay to watch Marvel movies, even the ones that I have almost zero interest in. It was when I was deciding between Skyscraper and Ant Man.

"Do I want to watch Die Hard with The Rock or a Marvel movie"?

I won't remember a thing from this movie aside from one or two good jokes, one decent action scene, one or two nice character moments and that's about it. But then I compared it to Skyscraper, which will probably be another generic blockbuster action movie with utterly forgettable or even painfully bad writing, wrapped up in two hours of excuses to go from one action set piece to another. The thing that sets Marvel apart is the overarching story and the recurring characters.

Marvel movies are like CSI, you get a whole library of episodes that go from bad to decent, and one or two that are absolutely amazing every once in a while, and then it goes back to its standard level of quality, not bad, but nothing really memorable.

You don't go to a Marvel movie expecting the next Godfather, you go in there expecting to be entertained for two hours, and Marvel has the rest of the market beat on that front.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:48:42 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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andrewharlan2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:31:09 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was fantastic. I never saw the first one and now I'm all motivated to do so.

MrPudge ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:59:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is it me or they couldve prevented the conflict with ghost if both parties just cooperated?

2TrikPony ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:06:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They explained that with Pymโ€™s โ€œfalling outโ€ with Foster. Not to mention Ava wasnโ€™t exactly the most stable person.

Budda-blaze-it ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Are you making a joke about her condition?! she is in pain!!!

skinnymike1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:06:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly this.

mikeweasy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:28 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She was too angry.

Seal412 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:28:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True but most movies would be boring if there were no conflict lol

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The time against the FBI and the quantum realms are already conflict heavy plots.

HardKhorToon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:03 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The last time Ghost trusted someone, they didnโ€™t fix her- let alone the guy whom she blames for her parentโ€™s deaths.

DisBStupid ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:04:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why is nobody talking about the mom somehow surviving 30 years? How did she eat? How did she drink? How did she sleep? I know that was waved off with "evolution" but that shit felt like a lazy explanation. Plus, evolution takes time; she should've been dead within a month. It just felt like a shitty attempt at a happy reunion.

Starmedia11 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:08:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She's clearly been changed and seems like she's seen some shit, so hopefully it gets fleshed out.

SpiderRealm ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:17:03 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm gonna assume they've explained it perfectly in the comics, but didn't have enough time to go further into it.

falcon_punch76 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:24:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Basically anything involving ant man is hand waived because no one knows how pym particles (source of ant mans powers in the comics) actually work. They know that they shrink and they grow things, but they donโ€™t follow any logical ruless

bizarrobazaar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just assume anything relating to Antman will never make sense. I mean, the whole concept is ridiculous. If he's shrinking, is he losing mass? Do the atoms that make up his body shrink? All the quantum shrinking stuff is really just a vehicle for the plot (and the kickass visuals).

mikeweasy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:57:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah how bout the clothes she was wearing.

singularity2030 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:34:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They might dig deeper later. She had stuff with her that doesnt look like the stuff she went in with so I'm guessing she's been through some shit and wasnt just floating around for 30 years.

AlvinItchyCock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:28 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the quantum realm it seems you can use your consciousness to manifest infinite realities. So it is possible she was justt manifesting things she needs to survive.

69party69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:30:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the last scene in the Quantum Realm, when the camera pans out, you can see a glimpse of a yellow looking city.

In the comics the QR is called the ฮผverse, and there are greenish humanoids living there, among other things. Janet presumably got some help from there

Roftastic ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:36:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm days late, but I have an observation that I haven't seen mentioned yet.

Ghost & Perry White are still together as imho pretty useless characters. However given the context of the aftercredits scene Ghost has to find him, know where he's at, and pull him out.

CaptainLang ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:23:14 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I hope Ghost is the one that brings Ant-Man out. They can be a weird, complicated superhero team that joins the Avengers post Infinity War.

Magic_Buffalo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:53:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good thought!

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:05:43 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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simmer_tomato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey if Fishburn wants that comicbook movie money, it doesn't matter which side pays.

lazylion_ca ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:15:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Quantum Zone is. You have to see it for yourself.

SprayTanCaligula ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 08:21:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The sex scene was freaking hot. Evangeline Lilly has perfect breasts.

Yuokes ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 08:57:25 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I know right? Kind of weird they got the ants involved too though

devilslaughters ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:20:23 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pfieffer still got it. Douglas too.

NorskChef ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:23:04 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good movie. Especially enjoyed the humor from Asian Jim.

pricedgoods ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:31:32 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Right? I kinda wish that dude was my friend

NeutralNoodle ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:58:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, that mid-credits scene.

I was expecting something like that to happen, but just... wow.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:08:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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TammersHammers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:37:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's an emergency!!

chancesarent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:52:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It happened with Black Widow in the first Avengers movie.

ashishvp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

lol not even a different movie universe.

ashishvp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:37:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That literally happened in the same universe bro. Black Widow's opening scene in the first Avengers

MadMadMaddox ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:16:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The mid-credits scene and the question mark were so filthy.

UNAMANZANA ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:28:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So, at first I thought that Bill Foster was Ava's dad, and then I saw the flashback, and I was like, "damn, Disney! so much for continuity and picking a white guy for this part"

TaddWinter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Me too, I was a bit confused.

Bitey_the_Squirrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Glad I wasnโ€™t the only one

69party69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:27:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ava definitely looks mixed race though

harten66 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:29:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thereโ€™s a small chance Iโ€™m being biased because itโ€™s new, but this surpasses guardians 1 and Ragnarok as my new favorite.

What a fantastic film!

poewnbiusa ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:37:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"The Baga Yaga" I don't remember John Wick being in this movie

Griffdude13 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:45:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That oblivious Ant having fun playing drums in the empty house. . .yeah that was how this movie fits into the MCU right now.

plusparty ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:57:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought they were gonna dust the ant too

valeyard89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Then it would be Honey I Shrunk the Kids all over again.

treybueno ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:53:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Really great film. I like how they balanced the action and comedy. The plot was very basic but it flowed well, and there were a lot of good character moments I felt that helped flesh out the Ant-Man side of the MCU.

Omg, and more Wasp and Luis! Part of me hopes Luis is the one who saves the Avengers, and that he finally gets his suit :)

TaddWinter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:55:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I think that is the thing, it is not about the plot in some cases as much as it is about seeing the characters develop. A good balance of both types is what makes the MCU so appealing to me.

M1lkyjoe ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:57:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott called his Dad Pepep. Celery Man confirmed.

ForeverTect ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oyster smiled.

uncheel3 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:07:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A majorly disproportionate amount of MCU characters got dusted by Thanos.

SS9897 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's literally plot armor

69party69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's inverse plot armour...plot "Kick Me" signs maybe?

johndoe42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:56:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do we have a count? I mean 50% is kind of...a lot.

KingTyranitar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, clearly more than half of the heroes were dusted. There must be entire cities completely unaffected and entire towns being dust

BrendamusPrime ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:21:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Remember now, Janet and Scott have that quantum entanglement thing going for them.

LostInStatic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:00:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh Fuck. She's going to be able to communicate with him from within the soul stone. Ant-Man really is the key in all of this.

CurbSnipe ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:30:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel so bad for Scott, he only went to the Quantum realm for a few seconds and they just so happened to be right when the Snappening went down. I'm interested in seeing if he starts gaining abilities like the original Wasp.

xTheApex ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:50:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She told him to look out for the Time vortexes. Foreshadowing to him using those somehow in A4 or maybe a teaser in captain marvel of him time traveling.

Ceez92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's the one

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:23:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For anyone wondering why Scott didnt help out in infinity war,

Yes, Natasha did say Scott was in house arrest. The time difference between this film and infinity war coud've been enough for house arrest to be over and for scott to be out in the world.

but remember, scott is still not allowed to interact with hank/hope and definitely not cap/falcon/natasha. natasha knew how much family was important to scott and probably wouldnt even ask him either way if he was on house arrest or not and risk screwing his relationship with his family.

also natasha wouldnt know the exact date of scotts house arrrest being over anyway

sgtshootsalot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:52:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m pretty sure that the New York invasion happened along side the events or directly after ant man and wasp.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:54:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i dont think it happened along side or directly after. there was some time lapse

the thing that grinds my gears is that hank and his wife went to the beach so there was definitely some time lapse after beating ghost

sgtshootsalot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe Iโ€™ll have to look closely on my next watch

johnlockerr ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:17:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scottโ€™s ringtone being Every Day is Like Sunday is amazing

defiance131 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:19:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Enjoyed myself from start to finish, definitely a very fun movie to catch

feelbetternow ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:08:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hereโ€™s a question thatโ€™s been rolling around my head for hours: Was Scott safe from being snapped out of existence by being in the Quantam Realm?

Malachi108 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:02:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think it had anything to do with it, just the same 50/50% chance.

charg3r614 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:24:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s either that or he was part of the half that didnโ€™t turn to dust after the snap

xPekeTheBest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:13:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I think so, it seems quantum realm isnt affected by the snap or anything

Shoelace_Farmer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:22:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean... we have a sample size of 1

xPekeTheBest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:23:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True

CynicalRaptor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:25:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But it still could be coincidental

raptorwrangler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:09:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm remembering that they specify "the universe" in IW.... I'd think that the Quantum Realm is technically outside of this Universe.

VigorRos ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:58:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The jokes were good, the action was good, and i really enjoyed the chemistry of all the characters. I didn't like the music/score, except the Happy song, and the slow mo scenes were a little too drawn out. Also never thought I'd see Tim Heidecker cameo in a Marvel film, cool surprise.

BetaState ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:07:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Waiting for the inevitable discussion on On Cinema, as Gregg was in the first Ant-Man and rubbed it's success in Tim's face.

https://twitter.com/timheidecker/status/1012326009503285251

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:36:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Eric Wareheim in Ant-Man 3

CaptainTeembro ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:01:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's kinda near impossible to try and top Infinity War, but this was still a solid movie and Ghost's special effects were really cool. My main gripe is that Laurence Fishburne's character was only used for exposition and didn't really do anything for the plot that didn't seem "forced".

Gerard54321 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:21:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i love Michael Peรฑa in Everything Must Go

secret-team ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:56:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was worth going on opening night just to hear the audience gasp in despair during the after credits

Austinite4ever ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:59:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:14:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Meh.

I do want to hug Bobby Canavale now though.

And go to do dinner with Randall Park!

I loved the mid-credits scene though! Got me way stoked!

Cine_Wolf ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:59:16 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I saw AntMan/Wasp tonight and couldn't help but think of Hereditary with the initial credits.

This isn't a negative. It's all about the timing of the movies release dates, but having seen Hereditary a couple weeks back, it was hard not to consider the similarities once the credits started rolling. It was fun to idly consider that they hired the mom to do the art before the movie about her family.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:06:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So that's who kept calling her

cutoutmermaid ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:05:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m disappointed that there are no scenes of the ant and wasp sneaking into ears and fucking people up on the inside

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:57:45 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So....going in their ear...and....growing to normal size?...

xuu0 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:35:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
rdardi123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

THIS would have been amazing

Ironfist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That would have made it a rated R movie.

InternetDickJuice ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:18:57 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone catch the Tim Heidecker cameo on the boat? Eat it Gregg-heads!

nahzoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ya I noticed that!

danieldravot ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:19:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My theory is that

jgladding ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:22:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dr Strange said "it was the only way" implying some odd time space thing.

Exodus111 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:11:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You mean Timey-Wimey thing.

InsaneGenis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:34 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Avengers 4 has already been filmed. Most contracts expire after that movie. RDJ is done. Scarlet Johansson is done. Thor is done. Samuel Jackson is done. Jeremy Renner is done. Chris Evans is done (though heโ€™s asking for an extension). Don Cheadle is done. Basically everyone who didnโ€™t die in the last Avengers has their contract ending. Marvel plans to recast roles but the end of Avengers 4 will give them a break.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:24:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol theyโ€™re not recasting. The MCU isnโ€™t some cheap Batman franchise. Theyโ€™re moving onto the next characters and the older characters can cameo later on.

InsaneGenis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:37:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:46 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. Not going to happen.

Iโ€™m sure he realizes that it would completely ruin the entire MCU.

InsaneGenis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So you just ignored where he said Spider-Man has changed several times and been accepted?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:52 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And? He stated that itโ€™s happened, but he also said that he doesnโ€™t want or need to think about it anytime soon

Ghidoran ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:49:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have a feeling Thor will still be around but they won't recast. That would make no sense.

zeroxray ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:06:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

havent heard anything about evans asking for a extension. i think he is done after A4

Fn_Spaghetti_Monster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:49 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I've heard his done with them and I have also heard he would love to come back so who knows. Lot of websites speculating IMO, I don't think I've seen any actual quotes from him directly one way or the other.

Stinky_Eastwood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Where have you heard confirmation that Marvel will recast the original Avengers?

InsaneGenis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:38 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They are all gonna be brought back in Avengers 4 next year.

zeroarelius ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:40:47 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Had fun watching this one. Again, Paul Rudd was awesome and Michael Pena made the movie for me.

World's Best Grandma!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dhylan18 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:01:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One thing Iโ€™ve been thinking about is Scotts House Arrest ends, then the build another portal to the Quantum Realm, then the snap occurs. Black Widow claims Scott and Clint didnโ€™t help fight because they were under house arrest, but how long does it take to build that portal in Luisโ€™s van? On the news they were showing Giant Man in San Francisco, so are the Avengers that out of touch with the news?

FullTorsoApparition ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:50:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They already had a quantum tunnel built so they probably just shrank the one they had and revised the supporting tech a little bit.

cokeiscool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:32:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So after really thinking about it, the fight in new York last what like an hour or two tops, then the rest is on Titan or in Wakanda, and well the beginning in Europe.

Scott isn't an avenger, Scott has no way of contacting the avengers and he is under house arrest. The snap happens in Wakanda

Dhylan18 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My point is that Scott was not under house arrest during Infinity War. They built the new quantum portal in Luisโ€™s van after his house arrest ends. Building a portal takes a long time, even with Janetโ€™s knowledge of the Quantum Realm. I get they didnโ€™t have a lot of time to go pick up Scott and Clint, but they could have.

qkxz ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:44:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

scott's in another state they probably don't have time, but they probably don't even know that his house arrest is done. it's not like theyre in constant contact. not to mention he's still on probation for 3 years after

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:31 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott wasn't in possession of a stone, Vision and the Doc were - which made them more priority targets. Peter happened to join in because it was in NYC. The team needed to get to Vision before considering Scott.

So this would leave Scott only flights to take or a car. Do you think they'd let air traffic flow freely with a giant spaceship in New York? I think they'd ground all flights. So now Scott's limited to car, train, or bus. He's at best case scenario: 43 hours by car or 3 days by Bus and train. To get to New York.

blex64 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I've also been thinking about this. My best guess is that these timelines run pretty close together, and they simply didn't know he was off house arrest yet.

Zer0Fucks2Give ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:52 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cap may have been mistaken about the timing of Scott's house arrest, but that notwithstanding, Lang supposedly destroyed his suit after Germany. And the only guy who could make a new one, Pym, was a fugitive (who, in the MCU, didn't much care for the Avengers, anyway). With Thanos at the doorstep, the Avengers didn't have time to go down this rabbit hole...

Dhylan18 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:44:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My point is that Scott was not under house arrest during Infinity War. They built the new quantum portal in Luisโ€™s van after his house arrest ends. Building a portal takes a long time, even with Janetโ€™s knowledge of the Quantum Realm. I get they didnโ€™t have a lot of time to go pick up Scott and Clint, but they could have.

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:02 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott was not under house arrest during Infinity War.

It doesn't matter. Perhaps Captain America, Black Widow and Rhoadey were mistaken about the exact timing.

But conversely the implication is that he's ALWAYS there, him being in the quantum realm can really affect other things depending on how they go with it.

DrvThruPnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:10 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They wouldn't have to build a new portal, just shrink the one they had and probably make some modifications. They only built the first one with all the parts they got from Burch so they couldn't have gotten all new parts again.

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:47:03 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We can probably assume that they'd ground the flights with the giant space ship in New York. They probably wouldn't pick up Scott because of the urgency of the infinity stones, Vision is a priority. They'd use a Quinjet to get around and not really be impacted by FAA. This leaves Scott with two options to get to New York from San Francisco: Car or Bus and Train.

That car ride will, at best, take 43 hours. The bus and train combination is three days. The car mind you is 43 hours straight through, no stops. Either way puts him impossible to reach the Avengers HQ in time. He'd get at the Avengers HQ and it'd be empty af. This also means he cannot physically get to Wakanda.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:50:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Love it.

How about that silenced shot (when Hank stops shrinking on his way to meet Janet again)?

Amazing

I_need_that_bacon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:17:35 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank Pym really likes Hyundais

redsyrinx2112 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:54:25 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because they're affordable?

PNF2187 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:06:06 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm noticing car product placement a lot more in the MCU as of late. There was that Toyota/Lexus car chase in Black Panther, and now we've got two brand new Hyundais in Ant-Man.

Zealot360 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:21:02 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was hoping Janet would survive the Snap and pull Scott out of the Quantum Realm after recovering somewhat from the shock of suddenly losing both Hank and Hope. Was hoping to see some OG Wasp action in the next Avengers film.

FrancisCastiglione12 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:58:23 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My 27 year old wife said Michael Douglas has "aged like fine wine".

Grievous407 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:33:33 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Same with Michelle Pfeiffer, that white gold.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:29 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

dude she looked absolutely stunning for her age.

szeto326 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:12:51 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fun, but flawed. Didnโ€™t love or hate it but it falls in the lower tier of MCU movies for me personally.

SirLeos ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:09:55 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Interesting, I just saw it and I rank it as my favourite one, almost on par with Infinity War.

pandesalient ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:16:20 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really enjoyed it as well. For some reason the Antman movies have been the ones I've remembered so fondly. Probably because they're so distinctly low-key and separate from all the other MCU shenanigans. Plus Paul Rudd doing Rudd things is always great

SirLeos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:56 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely. First, Paul Rudd is so funny and he seems vey likeable. I first saw him in Friends and always liked his character, although I wanted Phoebe to end up with David.

Now with Ant-Man, I just love the concept of the hero, very different to every other protagonist in the MCU.

dipping_sauce ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:58 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Whoa there, pony.

SirLeos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:42 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ha, pony?

arcangeltx ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:03:19 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wasn't really sold on this movie. It was just ok not that there's a problem with that

I didn't care about the villain or the rescue mom B plot

Pena was great, I feel like ant man is just Paul Rudd in a suit while Thor iron man cap have become their characters

Steellonewolf77 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:12:04 on December 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just watched it. I really enjoyed it, but feels a bit forgettable.

laportez ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 18:23:39 on August 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"She's a great scientist, she can help you!"

The great scientist cures Ghost by ET-ing her temple.

...film was a miss for me.

xenorous ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:04:45 on August 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly that felt a bit weird to me to. But. It seems like she wasn't cured permanently

Epople ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:38:30 on October 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Saw it last night with my daughters.

Comes across as a 90's family movie, bad jokes and all.

A very mediocre film with some things that happen that make you question the writing teams ability.

Boring villain with a cool suit. You could cut her out completely and nothing would change.

Very cringy dialogue in some places.

Like the colour beige, as non offensive as possible.

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:52:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

bye elizabeth olsen.

evangeline lilly is new bae

Malachi108 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:39:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Freckles has been bae for the past 15 years, dude.

krispy146 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:04:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but she was so underserved by that hairdo in the first one, glad she got to finally put her hair and badassery on display

annihilate123 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 14:37:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, theater was empty, with few people. When that post-credit scene came, I literally shouted out, "OH SHIT!" Others also reacted.

Bravo, Marvel, for tugging my heartstrings again.

Second scene was meh, although it shows an empty city, that's a nice touch.

I enjoyed the movie, not great, but good. See it in 3D!

dontdropthatcup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

can you spoil what happened to me I probably won't watch it but wanna know about the post credit scene

Cu4utl3 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:26:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man is sent into the quantum realm to collect some sort of healing component with the help of Wasp+Hank+Janet. While heโ€™s down there, his communication with them is suddenly interrupted. It cut back to Wasp/Hank/Janet turned into dust from the snap. Antman is currently stuck in the quantum realm.

annihilate123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:35:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank, Hope and Janet send Scott to the Quantum Realm to collect Quantum energy. They stated that if he can't reach them, he's stuck. They did a countdown, and Scott then lost signal. It was then revealed that the trio were turned to dust, while Scott is stuck in the Quantum Realm.

Very last scene is an empty city, with a giant ant playing drums. TV has no signal as well.

"Ant-Man and the Wasp will return?"

secopree ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:38:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was meant to be an emergency broadcast on the TV.

annihilate123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, you're right.

foresttravestys ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:34:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

just think "Mr. Stark...I don't feel so good"

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:22:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can we can a One Punch movie with Luis.

candicending ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:32:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"What does FBI even stand for? Forever Bothering Individuals!?" smiles proudly at husband

Husband's face: no sweetheart..

So adorable!

waifsandmendicants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can actually see Cheryl Tunt saying this.

rendangdikecapin ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:59:21 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I actually like it more than Ant-Man. Everything about it works perfectly to me, every character has something to do that contributes to the story.

SlumberCat ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:58:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I hope thereโ€™s a scene in A4 where Scott shows off his magic skills and Wong/Strange responds โ€˜how did you do that?โ€™

Bomber131313 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:18:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And then a mid-credit scene of Wong/Strange watching the magic website.

luckystrike_bh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:48:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That would be a surefire big laugh!

PresidentTieg ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:44:29 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Somebody get the Russos

I_am_Norwegian ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:54:15 on October 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved the first one, so I had similar expectations of this one. But in the end I just felt bored watching most of it. I didn't care about "ghost". More than anything her origin and whole deal felt more goofy than anything, trying to draw on unearned drama and emotional weight.

I also noticed the lack of blood and injuries more than usual. Without consequences it all just feels wrong and nonsensical.

Pinecone ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:28:56 on October 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What I really didn't like about Ghost's introduction was how everything was explained in a bluntly expository manner. All her cards were laid on the table in one shot and there were no more cards left for the rest of the movie.

IAMSNORTFACED ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:34:49 on October 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree and the mom plot or house arrest or ghost plot didn't raise the stakes high enough, overall it felt like a side story with no real danger. It's an okay movie imo, ratings should be toned down a little.

fede01_8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:38 on October 30, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I also noticed the lack of blood and injuries more than usual. Without consequences it all just feels wrong and nonsensical.

Kids movie

allmusiclover69 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 06:58:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Wasp stole this movie, right? I was more invested in her arc.

also, Ghost was really, really awesome. i loved the visuals.

edit: Evangeline Lilly is phenomenal.

JTNJ32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, she's in the title. Can she really "steal" a night that's already hers?

annoyingrelative ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:44:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn it Marvel, Mexicans liking the Smiths and Morrissey was our secret.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:39:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha, that was a secret?

nukumiyuki ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 21:35:38 on August 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I laughed so hard almost the entire film, it was so funny and nice to watch after work XD I was positively surprised that the easter egg was so obviously a result of what happened in Avengers 3 but also so simple that somebody who had not watched Avengers 3 wouldn't really be spoiled by it.

On a side note: is it only me who thought there were similarities between Ghost and Winter Soldier? Both used by Hydra as super operatives (although I find her abilities much more useful and rare than Bucky's), sad and angry and hurting and dangerous and traumatized, both probably killed a lot of innocent ppl knowingly or unknowingly.

acrow5 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 11:54:10 on August 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost was used by Shield no?

nukumiyuki ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:16:18 on August 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And Shield was basically controlled by?

ep2kgaming ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 12:47:06 on August 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Which was controlled by hydra

TheHoundThatRides ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:54:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

8 months until the next MCU movie. This gonna be a long wait.....

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:22:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Imagine starting a song of ice and fire 20 years ago.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:02:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Imagine being a Doctor Who fan in 1989.

ChangoUnchained ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:20:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fun movie! 7/10. Overall, lots of hilarious banter from Paul Rudd and Michael Pena as well as plenty of easy to follow and consume action sequences. A few concerns:

  1. How did Janet Van Dyne survive in the Quantum realm? What did she eat and drink? How did she speak perfect English after that much time in isolation? (No mental degradation or trauma?) - It felt a bit too much of a suspension of disbelief.
  2. Too many flourishes of sciencey gibberish to explain things in the quantum realm - in the end, we weren't learning a great deal other than whether they could progress the story.
  3. Ghost was not a rational villain and didn't feel important to this story. It would have been better if we saw more redeeming qualities for her character to allow us to sympathise with her. At the end I didn't really care if she died, she was getting in the way of the main plot.

On the positive, I loved the dynamic with Scott, his daughter and ex-wife & partner. The CGI for young Hank and Janet was exceptional. Post credit scenes were great and put it back into the context of the whole MCU. The truth serum storytelling scene by Pena was a nice callback to the first and was hilarious this time as well.

I was glad I saw this movie

Joevahskank ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:49:03 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
  1. They said that time and energy don't work the same in the Quantum Realm. Safe to assume that Janet either saw herself age extremely rapidly or found herself requiring much less sustenance as a result. We saw Scott get extremely exhausted when he was extremely big - maybe it's the opposite when you get extremely small

  2. I agree, but to mitigate this, I just assume the entire movie is from Scott's point of view. They start spewing science, I just nod my head like "Yup makes sense"

  3. Ghost didn't have a normal childhood - saw her parents die and to double down, now her entire existence is pain and phasing. Bill did his best, but the only raw connection he had with her was being the first one to acknowledge and attempt to help. Fast forward ten years or whatever to now, and you know you're going to die if you don't get a theorized treatment? Hell yeah I'd be irrational - only one person in the world cares about me, so why should I care about anyone but that one person?

navjot94 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:33:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In addition to your third point, not only that, but she was also forced to work as a SHIELD (probably Hydra within SHIELD) assassin for many years of her life.

BallsMahoganey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For a child who was supposed to be in constant pain she was incredibly calm in every flashback scene. Thats pretty much my only gripe with the movie though, definitely a fun ride.

qkxz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:41:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

it's clear her condition has gotten worse and worse from child to present and i think it's even stated that it's been getting worse and that the machine she's been using is no longer enough

SpacePistachio ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:40:28 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Am the only one that thought the beginning felt like a random scene? It only felt like it started after the marvel intro, and the movie only begun an hour in.

dafood48 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:44:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My cousin thought it was a trailer

darkafv2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:53 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I asked my friend what movie the trailer was for but it was the start

RogerDeanVenture ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:48:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

it started pretty abruptly I thought

lavendermini ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:17 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I was confused. I thought that it was apart of the trailers

Tbird90677 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:12:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really enjoyed this film. Lily stole her scenes. Rudd sweet talking Hank and Hope. That damn seagull ate Ant-onio Banaderas! Does Antman even exist in the universe while he is subatomic?

jshah500 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:22:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was really hoping for peรฑa to do another story telling by the end of the movie. Need more than one of those.

cpalafoutas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:36:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really hope they get him a suit with no powers

mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:02 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I love when he does those!!!!

dangerzoness ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:21:14 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was a fun film, I can definitely see that marvel wants antman to be the family friendly part of the marvel universe.

Ghost was honestly a better villain than yellow jacket as her motivations made more sense, as she was just desperate to survive and yellow jacket wanted revenge for being fired? When she was talking to Scott when Hope and Hank were still knocked out, to me she was extremely intimidating in that scene with the way she was speaking and acting.

This was the funniest movie i've seen this year hands down, the jokes landed more this time compared to the first one.

One thing I didnโ€™t like was the whole deus ex machina at the end of the movie where Janet simply heals Ghost with her hands but since itโ€™s a family movie I guess they didn't want someone dying (No one died in the movie I think, unless you count the end credits). It felt like Janet was hinting towards mutants with her little evolution and adaptation talk with Hank when she was rescued.

I am guessing from the end credits Scott has to through one of those time tunnels that Janet mentioned a minute before and Looks like no Wasp in infinity war part 2.

loyaltyElite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:45 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thankfully wasp is in infinity war part 2.

dankmemem88 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:10:01 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How did Janet's mind not turn to mush after 30 years of basically solitary confinement? I could imagine someone would be pretty messed up in the head after that.

shellwe ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:22:26 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or not having any food or water... that would be the bigger question. Its not like she was frozen in time, she clearly aged (and aged well...)

agoonygoogoo55 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:28:12 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Actually in the comics there are beings that exist in the quantum realm, and in the film you can see a city in the background of one of the quantum realm shots. So there is likely a society that functions where she could survive.

shellwe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:31:19 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I see.

Clearly I need to just shut my brain off with ant man. It doesn't really make sense. Like if the atoms were shrunk down to the point where you could still punch someone with the impact of a normal person even though you are small. When you become super big you would also have the impact of a normal person, so he would be like a big float if he was that huge.

cokeiscool ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:27:13 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pym particle!

question anything based on science, answer Pym Particle!

agoonygoogoo55 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:27:12 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yea it definitely isnt consistent and doesnt make much sense. I read somewhere on reddit that in one of the ant man comics, pym acknowledges this sort of, and states that even he doesnt really understand how it works fully, but is just using it as best he can.

cuttlefishcrossbow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:19:13 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Which I very frequently prefer to authoritative technobabble. There are plenty of things in real-world science that just work and we're not sure why.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:55 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

lmao i mean, he did punch the shit out of ghost and it looked like she took it pretty well

kingrawer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:26:49 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's quantum shenanigans. Ya ain't gotta explain that shit.

Tunelowplayslow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:27:19 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, Hank can't even explain Quantum stuff entirely in the comics.

24pg13 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:01:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit that mid credits scene. Didnโ€™t expect all of them fuck

pixarfan9510 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:04:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The post credits scenes might be two of the best Marvel's made so far. The crowd reaction to the first one was awesome.

wombutt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:08:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I need Infinity War pt2 PRONTO!

omart3 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:22:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So do you think Ant-Man's jar of healing particles he collected will play a role in Avengers 4?

Bitey_the_Squirrel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:34:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or the time vortex

LostInStatic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Quicksilver's coming back

ncuday ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:24:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I actually liked this way more than the first, and I liked the first plenty. They did a great job with stakes, because I feel the stakes being too big is one of the problems comic book movies run into. The stakes are personally high for the characters and villains, but the world isn't in danger. I feel like that is where audiences get lost, because you know the world will not and in one of these movies. Even Infinity War is just a waiting game to see how it's going to be undone.

socraticmethod88 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:24:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked Hannah John-Kamen (actress playing Ghost) in this way more than in Ready Player One but she still couldโ€™ve gotten more to do

CherryIce4 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:29:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love how consistently good marvel movies are, pretty amazing

Like even though this probably doesn't crack my top 10 marvel movies, I still loved it and had a ton of fun

MyUsernameIsJudge ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:12:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When they found Janet in the quality time realm where the hell did she get those robes? A quantum robe store?

Shadowwolflink ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:03:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love "quality time realm", I got a pretty good laugh.

asianorange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought about that too! Like... did her and Luke go to the same seamstress? But seriously though, I think it just adds to an affect rather then her showing up in her old uniform.

69party69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the last scene in the Quantum Realm, when the camera pans out, you can see a glimpse of a yellow looking city.

In the comics the QR is called the ฮผverse, and there are greenish humanoids living there, among other things. Janet presumably got some help from there

socraticmethod88 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:53:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One might argue Hank Pym is the main character of this movie

doctorx45 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:49:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm now looking forward to the episode of On Cinema in which Tim Heidecker and Gregg Turkington spar over who had the better Ant-Man cameo.

GrumpierGrunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Again, Tim had to have paid money to get this role. Money that could have been spent on the show so that we could have ditched the germ assassin nonsense. Real film experts would agree with me on this one. Weโ€™re going to have to disagree to agree that this movie is a five bagger

John_Lives ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:49:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tim did not have to pay money to get this role. That is nonsense and it's something only a Greg apologist would say. This movie did a complete 180 compared to the first Ant Man and is an undisputed popcorn classic just like Fant4stic

wtfmynamegotdeleted ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:03:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The whole magic gang had me rolling!

"Seriously how'd you do that?"

I_reddit_at_work_55 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:10:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos is the real Baba Yaga

___PeoplesChamp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:40:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thought it was John Wick.

dannypdanger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:04:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, he's the guy you send to kill the fucking bogeyman.

Bitey_the_Squirrel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:36:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos better hope he didnโ€™t snap John Wickโ€™s dog

lightaugust ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:17:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just saw it. Better than the reviews have given it credit for, I thought. I thought the last scene was the best post credit scene in a Marvel flick, only because after the light tone it comes out of left field, which I thought fit in perfectly with the 'misdirection' thing. Truth be told, I thought Goggins' character was pretty superfluous, and since I thought Ghost was so cool, it would have been better to really develop her out and skip his altogether, but it wasn't a deal breaker.

joshjodalton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree. I like the "misdirection" parallel, I hadn't even thought of that.

RazGrox ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:00:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

this movie was like half scott and hope staring at eachother and half michael pena and squad being hilarious. Also, how did janet age but didnโ€™t need to eat and drink to stay alive? hmmmm

Uncanny_Doom ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:31:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe she did? She had a weapon and a poncho.

GoesOff_On_Tangent ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:10:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Okay but where was Hawkeye

bystander007 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:22:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also under house arrest. He got the same deal as Scott.

TheHoundThatRides ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:31:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Retired for good to be with his family.......until they dust on him and motivate him to come back!

decarvalho7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:36:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Playing Tag

mastafishere ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:44:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m hoping Cassie helps Scott out of the quantum realm in A4 and gets to be his โ€œpartner.โ€ Also, hoping Cassie meets Rocket, thinks heโ€™s cute and tries to pet him only to be met with a swift bite.

Altephor1 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:00:37 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Key word in there was the time vortex. Timey wimey shit coming in A4 for sure.

itaboranius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:19:53 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You really like to say timey wimey, don't you?

ceaguila84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What is the time vortex? I didn't get that part very well

Altephor1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:44:55 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank tells Scott not to get stuck in a Time Vortex in the quantum realm. It's rumored that major plot points in Captain Marvel and A4 will revolve around time travel.

itaboranius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty sure it was Janet the one who said it but yes

Anthonybuck21 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:26:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean I some title screen, this movie just starts literally. I thought it was a Peter Pan trailer

Pizza4Free ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:34:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I too thought it was a trailer for a moment.

mikeweasy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:43:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

HAHAHAHAHA

jrmarte16 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:37:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Doesnโ€™t shrinking and growing affect their minds or is that out the window?

Edit: Also when Michael Pena shrinks in the car I was expecting some reaction but nothing

Joevahskank ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:54:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My guess is that Ava saves Scott from the Quantum Realm in time for A4

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:05:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

or just a failsafe counter on the computer. They know they have to pull him out, they have a reasonable amount of time it should take. Safety would dictate some precautionary device to automatically pull him out in the event they jumped or something happen to them.

Joevahskank ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:12:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Failsafe may be there, but I'm still doubtful. MCU Hank has always been pretty arrogant, so it's possible he may have thought of himself as the failsafe followed by his wife and daughter.

SutterCane ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:01:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank Pym: "I don't need a failsafe! It's not like some big purple asshole is going to collect a bunch of macguffins that lets him snap away half the people in the universe!"

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:24:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can't wait for A4 either way....

Vrylox ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:12:03 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There has to be a reason Janet mentioned Time Vortexes. I have a feeling that Scott will enter a Time Vortex and get transported 5/6 years into the future - which explains why the Avengers all look very different from what they did in Infinity War, (we know how they look in A4 through set photos/ concept art etc...) That's just my theory though

navjot94 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:30:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That makes a lot of sense. Would also explain why they were casting an older Cassie for Avengers 4. His family would assume that Scott got dusted but he turns up in the future. That would also give Stark and the rest of the crew the idea that time travel is possible and they could use Pym tech to reverse the snap.

StayPuffGoomba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My guess is he goes back in time and uses the quantum healing to help Captain Marvel. Seeing Scott in the 1980s would be hilarious.

dj_ian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah i feel like it's just going to be one of those MCU offscreen things like Scott will probably meet up with Tony like "I have a time machine in a van". These are the same people that never explained onscreen how Thor got back to earth in Avengers 1 (outside of some vague allusion to Odin using magic) so i don't think it's a big deal. Clearly the only reason they had Scott using the quantum generator in that scene instead of them being at the dinner table or something is to show you they'll use it in A4.

MasterofSciFi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:13:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is a quick, fun, heartfelt movie and it's my 8th favorite MCU film.

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just curious what are the other 7?

MasterofSciFi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:47:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Best to least favorite

Infinity War - Black Panther - Civil War - Avengers - Guardians Vol. 2 - Guardians - Spider-Man: Homecoming

Bomber131313 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:54:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, Thor Ragnarok?

Interesting you liked Guardians Vol. 2 more then the first one.

And how is Spidey last?

MasterofSciFi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:57:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ragnarok was a really good movie, but it's my least favorite of 2017.

Guardians 2 had more emotional shit and upped the humor and lots of stuff.

Although Homecoming is the most relate-able film I've ever seen I like the other ones more for one reason or another I don't know today.

EDIT: Ragnarok was my least favorite MCU movie of 2017.

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

OK, sorry I read your first post wrong. I thought you said this was your 8th Marvel film(as you had only seen 8)........I missed the 'favorite' part.

Now looking at your list and adding in the 'favorite' part, just adds more questions.

No, Iron Man? Or Winter Soldier? Panther second? And Guardians 2 at four?

MasterofSciFi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Winter Soldier, Ragnarok and the first Iron Man all have issues, Ant-Man & The Wasp has issues too but I found in the theater that those three were inferior. The Winter Soldier's rewatch value isn't high for me, Ragnarok's expository scenes aren't great and Iron Man 1, well, there's a few issues I have with it.

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

issues

Not yet, you think Iron Man has issues but you rate Civil War that high? That seems odd.

I have a love/hate relationship with Civil War. If I shout my brain off it's might be my favorite MCU movie. But then I turn on my brain and it become a hot mess.

MasterofSciFi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:38 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is it me or is Winter Soldier great the first time and gets boring?

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Most would say it's just you.

Winter Soldier isn't overly high for me, but it is rewatchable. The knife fight between Cap and Bucky is worth a watch alone. I also liked Cap in this(that was when Cap was making Cap like decisions unlike Civil War).

My question to you, in Civil War how didn't Team Iron Man beat the living shit out of Team Cap? Those teams were loop sided as hell. If you had a draft 4 of the top 5 picks(IM, Spidey, Vision, and Panther) are from Iron Mans side.

MasterofSciFi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't get me wrong, Winter Soldier is great. I clapped in the theater.

As for Civil War, I don't pay attention to the little things so much therefor that didn't bother me. There's also character motivations to think about.

Bomber131313 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:26:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't pay attention to the little things

Not 'little' things? Zemo's plans was so bad it made Lex's plan in Batman V Superman look good. You know had batshit bad you have to get to make Lex look good?

There's also character motivations to think about.

Yes, and in Civil War Steve didn't make accurate to his character choices.

MasterofSciFi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's good everyone has unique opinions, if everyone shared my opinion I would get sick of hearing it, same as yours.

Isn't that nice?

Bomber131313 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:39:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's good everyone has unique opinions.............Isn't that nice?

Yes.

Not sure what that has to do with what we are talking about?

It's not opinion Steve made decisions outside of his character in Civil War or the Zemo's plan was convoluted, unrealistic, and relied on coincidences he could not predict or know about.

As I said if I turn off my brain the movies great and has maybe the 3 best action scene in all the MCU. But they messed with Caps character to much.

MasterofSciFi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And Ant-Man & The Wasp isn't your 8th favorite.

Just saying, it's cool to debate and stuff.

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:25 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sure, debate when civil can be cool and fun.

MasterofSciFi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly my point, lucky terrorist.

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

lucky terrorist.

Not yet.............what?

MasterofSciFi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:03 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Bomber 13 13 13?

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How is that lucky? Isn't 13 supposed to be unlucky?

MasterofSciFi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:01 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I've heard the opposite, no big deal vateva.

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:43 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Really? Do you live in the US? In the US 13 is usually considered a unlucky or bad number. Friday the 13th is an example.

MasterofSciFi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:24 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Right, but 7 and 13 I've always heard/been told are the lucky ones.

tomservo88 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:46:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

...well, shit.

btl614 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:26:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Will Ant-man get those healing powers from the quantum realm and save some people in avengers 4?

maglifx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:20:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, Janet mentioned something along the lines of like time travel shit in there. I think he's just gonna jump back in time and somehow and fix everything, maybe even go in the future. They had pics of the avengers in their original outfits and they casted an older version of antmans daughter

fungobat ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:01:47 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think this might have been the first Marvel movie to show a clip from the after credits scene in the trailer!

Cynical-Sam ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:45:03 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Black Panther did too with the UN conference

inksmudgedhands ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:41:01 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Which ruined it. It would have been such a great little sight gag after a jarring mid-credit scene. Like how in Spider-Man: Homecoming, the Captain America PSA was such a great laugh after seeing Vulture in jail. But then again, it might have not worked given the funny end credit scene in last Thor movie didn't work after the mid-credit scene of Thanos' ship reveal. Perhaps, they should have just dropped the end credit scene and had the mid-credit scene as the end credit scene like they did with Infinity War.

NazzerDawk ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:50:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It ruined it? Maybe if you only saw it as "Ant playing the drums". The context of the "snap", the TV showing the emergency broadcast system signal, the sound of screams and sirens in the background, changes it to a joke with a dark, morbid subtext.

Besides, didn't they show the ant playing the drums earlier in the film too?

Link2Sora ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:49:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They did

OscarMiguelRamirez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:24:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It wasn't a gag, you just didn't get it. It was really dark.

raymondl942 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:31:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Watched it yesterday. Full of laughs. Everyone in the theater was basically like o shit at the mid credit scene. Loved the fact that marvel uses these smaller movies to bring a lighter mood especially following iw and bp.

kevRoye ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:52:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Movie was fantastic. Quickly became a favorite, and overtook the first one. These Ant-Man films find strike a perfect balance with humor and story, much like GotG.

choicemeats ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:30:20 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m glad that they referenced THEM!, my favorite b movie of all time, not once, but TWICE!

KingOfSockPuppets ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:34:47 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As far as sequels go I think it was pretty solid. The plot was rather meh but the characterization was excellent. Lots of solid jokes like one might expect for a Marvel movie. I think the most interesting thing to me is that, like the first movie, they didn't have much in the way of action and saved almost all of it (sans one fight scene early on) for an extended chase sequence at the end. It's an unusual choice for pacing, and one that I still appreciate. It let the movie focus on the characters and give them time to breathe rather than get distracted with hitting the plot beat checklist.

Donaldmcgreggor ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:52:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good movie, had a fun time watching it. looking forward for next part.

muhash14 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:10:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel pretty much exactly the same. I liked the movie a lot, my mom will probably absolutely love it. Also perhaps exactly the right movie to come out after IW.

weasel-king68 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:00:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is this the first standalone MCU film to not have another Marvel superhero in it (that's not in the title--sorry, Wasp!)? The first Ant-Man had Falcon, even if it was not a long sequence.

chunkybuttflake ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:25:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank pym was in it

AlienCricket ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:12:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Working backwards:

Infinity War: Duh.

Black Panther: Bucky

Thor Ragnarok: Hulk

Spider-Man Homecoming: Iron Man

Guardians 2: Collector?

Doctor Strange: Thor (not sure if it counts, it's just a post-credits scene that ended up being a scene from Ragnarok)

Civil War: Duh

Ant-Man: Falcon

Age of Ultron: Duh.

Guardians of the Galaxy: Probably the last standalone without a crossover.

samspopguy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:01:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Would have went with Martin Freemanโ€™s character instead of Bucky

LDKCP ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:43 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Which superhero is he?

samspopguy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:13:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not really a superhero just a character that had a role in civil war and black panather

Mws23 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:10:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What the heck? Definitely not, most of the movies in phase 1 were standalone, with many after that with no other appearances from other heroes.

  • Iron Man
  • The Incredible Hulk
  • Captain America: The First Avenger
  • Iron Man 3
  • Thor: The Dark World
  • Guardians of the Galaxy 1 and 2
  • Black Panther
AlienCricket ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:23 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Incredible Hulk had Tony Stark.

Iron Man 3 had Bruce Banner

Thor: The Dark World kinda had Captain America? It was Loki as Cap, but the actor was still Chris Evans

Black Panther had Bucky Barnes

Mws23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:40 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

None of those were main roles though, in the way that the OP specified I took that to mean as heroes who aided the title character. I guess I misinterpreted that.

samspopguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s how I interperated it

Plus some of what the posted were just in after credit scenes.

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:26:20 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd chalk Thanos in that group. Not aided and not a hero, but we see in Guardians that Thanos is manipulating events to get the stone. He tasks Ronan with finding the artifact, but he doesn't want him to find out it's the power stone.

And ultimately, in Infinity War, I'd argue Thanos was the main character. We start and end the whole thing on him (not including post credits obviously). He has a huge bearing on the plot, it really follows his quest to get the stones as much as it follows any group of heroes, maybe even more so.

Mws23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:26:22 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, I did already say Guardians of the Galaxy, but I wouldn't put Infinity War in there. Even if Thanos is considered the main character, Infinity War is literally a crossover title. OP said standalones.

yognautilus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:33 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yep the Guardians movies are the only ones that I can remember that don't have some appearance from another Marvel character.

stooge4ever ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The first Guardians had Thanos after Thanos had been introduced in "The Avengers".

yognautilus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:25 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, that was his first real "major" part in a movie, too. Can't believe I forgot that.

CapnSmite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:51 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Howard the Duck.

Or do you mean specifically one that hadn't already appeared in another MCU film?

yognautilus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha right, ones that showed up in other MCU films. But I forgot Thanos was in the first movie.

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:54 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos appears.

brady2gronk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iron Man 2 had Black Widow

Thor had Hawkeye

Masalar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:36 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Depends. Shield and Nick Fury were in a lot of those, which I would consider a crossover.

mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:21 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Guardians Vol 2 didnt have one in it.

jffdougan ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:46:54 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think that Abby Ryder Fortson stole every scene she was in. I look forward to seeing what she does with her career (and would actually love to see her play Stature if the MCU is still going strong at 20 years old).

Maxa30 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think Abby is done with the Cassie role for now, they have that Emma girl cast as her for A4, though so I guess she could be in it too if it's present and future, and I guess it depends when future Ant-Man movise take place.

jffdougan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:26:32 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Somebody in r/marvelstudios said something similar, although I'm trying to stay away from potential A4 spoilers.

In my ideal world (as far as AFR is concerned), the MCU is still a viable (and thriving) franchise about 10 years from now, and we get a Young Avengers movie that has AFR as Stature and current unknowns as Kate Bishop, America Chavez, Riri Williams, Hulkling, and Wiccan.

Maxa30 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:43:22 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think young avengers could possibly work as Avengers 6. You said you want to stay away from spoilers but Emergency Awesome made a great video on the MCUs future

Wes_Side238 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:19:12 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The movie was alright, had some good moments. But the end credits scene floored me. Like I knew it was coming (didn't know who tho), but damn that's actually a much more brilliant set up than I was expecting tbh.

Right now it feels like they're moving the chess pieces right where they need to be for A4, and I can't wait to see how captain marvel factors in

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:28:17 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked this one. It was pretty entertaining, pretty fun. It understood something that a lot of Marvel movies don't - humour is more than just goddamn quips. Like my biggest laugh from a Marvel movie, since Homecoming I think, was that shit-eating grin Cassie had in that one scene. I get that either Marvel, or their hardcore stans I dunno, aren't over The Avengers yet, but change the humour game already lol. Nice change of pace in that regard.

The dramatic elements to this movie were okay, felt like they were kind of there for the reunion scene. Like the scene where Hank has that existential nightmare thing in his house was interesting and could've really been something, but it felt more tacked on than anything to me. The relationship stuff with Scott and Hope was cute. Ghost was fine. The Luis story thing was cool, but it also felt like "We gotta get all these done now, people loved it in the first one so one BIG SCENE NOW!" It was cool tho, Rudd and Lily had fun with it lol. Agent Woo was rad as hell tho, Randall Park is THE best.

Oh, I guessed three people were gonna be dusted for the post-credit scene - Hank, Janet and Cassie. I would've guessed Hope but I was totally betting she would've been in A4. Ah well, can't win 'em all. Plus Cassie would've been too dark for a Marvel movie lol. Overall a fun movie, I had a good time.

nknecrosis ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:13:39 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was anyone else who watched the movie reminded about the never trust an elf meme?

I won't say if it was confirmed or denied, but this was the only thing on my mind while I was watching lol.

Brooklyn99fanboy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:46:00 on July 30, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really liked the movie i thought it was funny and gripping, not a surprise from a marvel film though. I have one big question about the film: so we now know that the events of the film are at the same time that infinity war's are but we seem to get no information from the news or the police or any kind of other media, and that is kind of strange beacuse in my opinion of the news could report so fast on Scott being giant man at the last part of the film how could they not know about Thanos and the avengers fighting them. If anyone knows the answer please tell me beacuse I'm really curious.

broadcloak ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 08:05:19 on July 31, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm guessing most of the movie isn't happening at exactly the same time as IW, - maybe just a few days earlier. And then the after credits scene is when it matches up to IW.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:55 on December 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well all of Infinity War happens in like 1 day, and the end-credits scene is clearly set in the future compared to the rest of the film. And, it seems like they were preoccupied with testing their quantum technology, so they probably weren't looking at the news.

Squeezycakes17 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:02:47 on August 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

DAMN GOOD MOVIE

Kimosabae ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:30:02 on October 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Plenty LTTP but I found this film to be plenty boring, unfortunately.

fede01_8 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:31:57 on October 30, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Plenty what?

Kimosabae ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:47:04 on October 30, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Late to the Party.

kneeco28 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:23:06 on October 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked the cast (I hope we haven't seen the last of Walton Goggins in the MCU) and some of the action sequences and comedy and kinda hated everything else about this movie. I still don't quite get a lot of the rules in Ant-Man world.

Placing it between the two parts of Infinity War (I know they're gonna call the next part something else, still it's the second half of that movie) does it no favors either.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:14:53 on October 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like the plot repeated itself a bit too much: get the lab! Like Widow said once: "The genie is out of that bottle." This movie was very clearly set up to introduce some new elements into the MCU that are much needed later, but not to be the stand-out film itself (like Spider-Man or Black Panther). In that aspect, it holds up in my eyes, whilst indeed it will never be looked upon as the "greatest".

polocolo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:13:08 on October 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked it. Not as much as the first one but I liked it.

Though, I got to say, I'm having difficulties with villains whose motive is childish egoism : "don't talk to me about pain" Ghost says at some point, to justify the fact that she wants to kill Janet or kidnap Cassie... I kinda hate the "I don't care if I make people suffer because I myself suffered a lot"... I don't know why but it feels pretty "cheap".

blockpro156 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:56:12 on October 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really don't think that it's fair to describe the desire to survive, and to live painlessly, as "childish".

Pretty sure that most adults want that too.

I kinda hate the "I don't care if I make people suffer because I myself suffered a lot"... I don't know why but it feels pretty "cheap".

It's not like she actively desired to torture them, she wasn't a sadist she was just selfish and in self-preservation mode.

polocolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:49 on October 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

no, of course when you put it that way... I really felt she said it in such manner that it didn't really sound like "I'm sorry I'm just doing everything needed to survive"... at least to my ear. If you want, I think the problem is she needs help. The "I don't care what happens to others cause I'm struggling to live" line is okay when you're fixing your problem on your own. It doesn't feel right to me when it's accompanied by "oh and by the way, I need your help cure me please"

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 13:28:41 on October 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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polocolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:16 on October 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

you should take better care of yourself if you have "quite serious" hate thoughts about a stranger for his bad taste in movies. It must mean you're not feeling very well. I'm sorry for you. You can seek for help here, you know? Even on reddit there is some support.
I do wonder, I must confess, how you picked my comment for there are dozens here that liked the movie A LOT MORE than I did... then again, very sorry that I don't share your opinion on that particular subject.

DaedalusMinion ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:38:57 on October 28, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was fun to watch, Wasp is dope.

ZyrxilToo ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 13:48:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant Man 1 was definitely one of my top Marvel films, and I definitely liked this better than Ant Man 1. Pulling together my thoughts about why:

-Overall even better chemistry between all the characters- Hope/Scott/Hank and Cassie. Really good scenes between Scott and Cassie in particular. Cassie's mom and stepdad didn't have a ton of screen time, but I love all the family scenes, not just the ones between Cassie and Scott.

-The kid playing Cassie became a much better actress in such a short amount of time. In the first movie a lot of her lines sounded like she had just gotten an off screen parent to prompt her 10 seconds before saying it, and not terribly convincingly. In this one, not only was she convincing, but her facial expressions had a ton of pathos. Her performance was good even by adult standards.

-No origin story frees up a ton of time. The training montage of Ant Man 1 was necessary, but felt so rote, even if they did try to infuse it with as much character as possible, with Scott starting his trend of naming ants there.

-Michael Pena and Co are hilarious as usual, but they were smart enough not to overdo his fast-talking bit even after how popular it was in the first movie. It was great that his sidekicks saved the day at the end, and got them some financial success.

-The humor was always on point, and Ant Man being more of a comedy in the first place, it never felt like there was too much (like with Thor 3!) even though there was more humor compared to the first one.

What I didn't like much was everything to do with Michelle Pffeifer's character. She was a big macguffin to keep the plot moving, but that's all. Everything she did was basically a magic handwave. Hack teh quantummsss through possession! Magic-ed a cloak out of nothing! Don't have to eat! Quantum powers! Fixes bad guy immediately so everything ends happy within 30 seconds! Meh. I guess it was necessary, but felt very lazy.

bikbao ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 06:42:14 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

- Cap needed help.

- Cap?

- tain America

These lines made me giggle for 30 mins afterwards.

Kwijiboe ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:26:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Perfectly Bal-Ants. As all things should be.

JXP2012 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:09:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A couple of questions.

What's the point of a tunnel? Ant man 1 showed us you can enter the realm by just shrinking.

How did scott have connections with the original wasp? What was that antenna she mentioned? How was she controlling him???

How does the original wasp have healing powers? Evolution? Whaaat??

Why not just bring the original wasp the growing discs instead of using the dangerous tunnel method?

Why not shrink the building to an even smaller size so it's easier to hide?

Why collect quantum healing energy? Janet already has healing powers.

blues4thecup ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:15:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A tunnel lets you safely go back and forth to the quantim realm.

Scott has connections because she saw him before and they were both at the edge of the realm.

The original wasp has healing powers because she was in the quantum realm for 30 years and it changed her molecular structure.

The growing discs are more dangerous and if you actually watched the movie the only way they could locate her was with the tunnel.

Shrinking the building smaller is a good point.

Janet won't always be there to heal Ghost. If they collected enough of it ghost would be able to do it herself.

Kingofthegnome ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:47:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How did scott have connections with the original wasp? What was that antenna she mentioned? How was she controlling him???

The answer is a little BS and "marvel movie magic" There is something called quantum entanglement and it is believed you can connect two atoms so if you moved one or froze it or enacted force on one it would effect the other. So think of this as having a ball in one room and you bounce it and the other starts to bounce in the other room or even across all of space. So they have a one liner that says Scot and Wasp 1.0 had their minds Quantum Entangled from when he was small together. It is a big or marvel magic but its based on that principle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

singularity2030 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In real quantum entanglement, interacting with one of the atoms would break the entanglement. Thankfully it's not a big deal that they butcher science in a comic book movie.

SanityPills ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thankfully it's not a big deal that they butcher science in a comic book movie.

This is what I was thinking. Are we really getting upset that Marvel BSed a little on the science in a movie where people can use suits filled with made up Pym particles to shrink and grow in size? Not to mention other scientific absurdities in the other movies.

Big_Boyd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:38:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For the last question, I could see it being a temporary fix. The problem is that would make Hank's psychadelic mind wanderings something that can only be temporary fixed too, right? But I guess it's fine because you can just get healing quantum energy whenever you want.

SanityPills ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The problem is that would make Hank's psychadelic mind wanderings something that can only be temporary fixed too, right?

That should be permanent, because it's something that was happening because he was currently in the Quantum realm. As both Janet and Scott pointed out, it messes with your mind.

weaslebubble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:51:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I assume the tunnel and ship was so they could easily locate and navigate to Janets position. After all the quantum realm maybe effectively infinite. I also further assume that unshrinking would return you to the same place you shrank. Which in Janets case would be the middle of the ocean.

jaecube3 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:14:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree, theres a lot of aspects that were used but not explained. Also, how did he get the trackers on again, he said he slept for 5 days after civil war but was fine after a minute after growing to a bigger size, and his regulator seemingly doesnt work but works when its convenient

Pseudoneum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The sleeping thing I just took to mean he had the ability to. Whereas in this film, he was woken up forcibly and he just forced himself to stay awake. As most of us do when really necessary.

MovieMike007 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 11:53:37 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I found Ant-Man and the Wasp to be an immensely fun flick - building nicely on the previous film - and with some of the most original action set pieces yet.

Stray Thoughts:

  • Marvelโ€™s actor de-aging software is getting better and better.

  • How his being locked up in The Raft (A high security prison maintained by S.H.I.E.L.D) during Captain America: Civil War was commuted to house arrest in this film is never explained.

  • Bobby Cannavale returns as the husband of Langโ€™s ex-wife, and his character nicely bucks the trend of asshole movie stepdads.

  • The movie could have used a bit more Wasp action, what we got was fantastic, I just wanted more.

  • Having enlarged ants as laboratory assistants was bloody brilliant.

  • That Janet Van Dyne managed to stay sane while being trapped for 30 years in the Quantum Realm is quite impressive.

  • Iโ€™m not sure how the contents of Hank Pymโ€™s shrunken building survive all the jostling they experience during the movieโ€™s โ€œGreat Keep-Awayโ€ chase Sequence.

sentenobeast ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:33:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If I'm not mistaken, Steve Rodgers briefly explained in IW during the first meet with iron Patriot and Bruce that scott and Hawkeye got a plea deal to be under house arrest to be with their family.

SilverKry ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:18:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The stepdad bucked that trend in the first one I thought.

monster_syndrome ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:56:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the first one he softened up once he realized Scott was just trying to do the right thing under weird circumstances. In this one, you could feel him genuinely rooting for Scott. He was overly emotional in a sweet way.

SockMonkeh ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:33:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The movie could have used a bit more Wasp action, what we got was fantastic, I just wanted more.

Interesting, I thought she got tons of action and you could almost call the movie The Wasp & Ant-Man (which I liked).

TheHuntingHunty ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:46:45 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My only (nit picky) flaw with the mid-credits scene is that Ebony Maw and the other big guy attacked New York hours before Thanos actually did the snap in Infinity War.

Wouldnโ€™t that be huge headline news? Ant-Man, Hope, and Hank seem like they didnโ€™t even know Earth was visited by aliens again when they were trying to harvest quantum energy in the mid-credits scene (which takes place a minute before the snap actually happens).

Stein619 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:30:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My guess is they were so focused on making the smaller quantum portal that they wouldn't have seen a TV or anything that could tell them the news.

AGOTFAN ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:04:38 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But what were they supposed to do?

The attack on NY happened in a few minutes and then they were gone, meanwhile, Ant-man happened in San Francisco.

Remember Hank Pym dont want anything to do with the Avengers or Tony Stark.

PutinPaysTrump ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:03:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Keep in mind that Lang had just got back into the good graces with Hope and Hank after running off to meddle in tbe Avengers' affairs. I doubt he'd run off to do the same thing again, especially when the attack seemed to be contained already. Most of the serious fighting was going down in Wakanda and on Titan.

aej11a ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s actually confirmed on Agents of SHIELD that it IS a huge deal in the news, breaking on TV. So yeah, thatโ€™s a bit of a flaw

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:56:06 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

it is a huge deal in the news, but it was a really abrupt, come and go event. no one really knew much about it, and as someone else mentioned, most of the fighting happened in wakanda, which scott most definitely didn't know about.

aej11a ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just meant it was a flaw that these characters seemed completely unaware when we know the news is reporting an alien invasion in NYC

cadewii ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 12:46:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

thank you! I was thinking of this too! reminds me of what happed in Guardians 2. The giant purple thing came out in Missouri and it wasn't talked about in civil war or any thing like that. I feel like it would be a pretty big headline. Maybe Disney needs to think more before trying to sell toys and mediocre movies.

DoeJolff ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:56:11 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There wasnโ€™t a movie that it would have really been relevant in. Iโ€™m not sure if guardians 2 took place before or after the fall of shield (I know itโ€™s the same year just not the exact timing), but the point of shield was to protect the people from hearing about these smaller instances of dangerous information as said in avengers. The Missouri thing was relatively small, so I would guess shield (or whatever government organization that stepped up to cover its duties) was able to keep it under wraps. By 2015 when age of ultron happened, it would have been old news and very small compared to what happened in that movie. Also Iโ€™m pretty sure the blue cloud chasing people didnโ€™t sell any toys, and maybe some of this is a product of Disney being more lax on how they require directors to fit into the continuity, which Iโ€™m sure is something you support here on r/movies.

g11mz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:14 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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WhatTheFhtagn ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:52:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Guardians 2 was set in 2014. Civil War was a year after.

thetacoguy45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

2 years after, not 1.

wwtt1210 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 08:52:09 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

paul rudd such an underrated actor

97cass_y ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:50:09 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah and I can't believe he's almost 50. He looks so young

TheReverendIsHr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, almost 50?! He looks great!

97cass_y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:49 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He sure does :)

Prixster ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:31:07 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Personally i think it did an good job. Most importantly it's point was Ant Man and Wasp's chemistry which was spot on. Action was neat, score was top notch. Dude, Micheal Pena needs a solo movie. Coming to the most important part 'The Snap', i guess we expected this to happen one way or another but still it was brutal. I wished Janet stayed. Kinda panicked me hearing Scott scream. And yes i noticed Mirror Dimension, Thanos face shaped something, Iron Man's armor in the Quantum Realm (Mid credits scene). Now, how he will come back? Captain Marvel or he will find his own way? My theory is since Janet mentions something about Time vortex, Scott will make a time jump which will send in future. Marvel you bitch.

andrewthemexican ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:04:01 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I knew it had to be coming but didn't expect it to be all three of them. It was depressing when it cut back to them and just dust.

kasmith2020 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:35:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked it! Not perfect, but also not "too big for its britches" so to speak.

My little thing: Sonny Burch (Goggins) was a silly character. Never heard of him...didn't need him. I understand why he was there though...they needed more bad guy fodder.

My fix isn't original, but I think Sonny Burch should have been Justin Hammer instead! A tie in to an earlier film and we know he would be into this kind of stuff. Right up his ally!

MovieMike007 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:00:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A scene with Burch on the phone with Hammer would certainly have helped.

Ironfist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My little thing: Sonny Burch (Goggins) was a silly character. Never heard of him...didn't need him. I understand why he was there though...they needed more bad guy fodder.

I kept expecting him to say something about Rayland Givens. :D

DiogenesTheHound ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:21:54 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So at the end when Hope asks Cassie what she wants to do when she grows up she says โ€œI want to help people... like my dadโ€. Takes on a different meaning after the post credits scene.

xitzsgx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:42:18 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
DiogenesTheHound ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:31:25 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man seems to get trapped in the Quantum Realm in the post credits scenes. There is evidence that the next Avengers will have time travel or time skips.

It can be taken as:

I want to help people... like my dad (does)

I want to help people... like (such as) my dad

Sheโ€™ll grow up and save her dad from the Quantum Realm

AndWeMay ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:35:58 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Took me a minute to figure out what they meant, but I think the two ways it can be interpreted are:

1) The obvious way that you and I heard - 'I would like to help people like (or in a similar way to) how my dad does'.

2) The new meaning after the credits 'I would like to help people like (such as) my dad (who needs my help because he's stuck in the quantum zone'.

steralite ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:21:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Havenโ€™t seen it yet. Upvoted for Tayne.

neowyrm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:48:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They played the Tayne skit in the Alamo Drafthouse preshow

steralite ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:49:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s amazing. Itโ€™s probably my favorite bit from Tim & Eric of all time.

boogawman ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:47:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nice nod to Hank Pym as the original Ant-Man in the comics when he wore that suit as he goes to rescue Janet. Love how Michael Douglas portrays him as the hero that he is other than being just a mentor to Scott Lang.

Leafs17 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:56:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was the flashback of him being actual Ant-Man not more of a nod to him being the original Ant-Man?

SanityPills ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:07:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As a huge Pym fan, I went into both movies scared he wasn't going to get the time of day he deserves. Glad to be wrong both times. And, yeah, had to try not to lose it when he put on the suit.

ThatIowanGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:35:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean itโ€™s kinda risky to put him onto the screen. General audiences may not understand his abusive nature but comic fans are quite aware of it. I think they do a good balancing act and make him just kind of an asshole

deadrebel ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:45:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The movements and style of movement that Ghost made were the same Strange made when looking back in time: phasing in and out. This further cements the time stone and the quantum realm having some connection.

I think there will be a time jump with Ant-Man coming back to a future earth after the snap (think 4 years odd) through a time vortex to escape the quantum realm.

Life has moved on but his bringing the Pym tech to a future Stark gives the Avengers the possible out they need: using the quantum energy to create a device that "phases" the Avengers back to the Battle for New York to influence the changes needed to get the stones before Thanos and correct their timeline to make the click never occur.

ShootingForThird ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:54:02 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

'My grandma had a jukebox that only played Morrissey' is by far the best thing to come out of this decade of Marvel.

volgalonso ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:02:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So I assume Ant-Man will play an important role in Avengers 4. But I am not smart enough to figure out how.

thewisefoolHHH ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:05:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Traveling through time using the time vortex and using the quantum particles to heal fallen Avengers.

omart3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:30:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe he will use the healing particles he collected for something.

ashishvp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Time Vortex. Accidentally bumps into Captain America in WWII.

"Uhh I think I've gone back too far. But I'll see you in 60 years!"

Goes forward to the beginning of IW1, warns everyone. They figure out some convoluted plan involving Captain Marvel to fix this shit

itaboranius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's been a lot of leaks lately about his role in A4 and it seems like time travel will play a huge part of it.

wademcgillis ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:04:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

World's Greatest Grandma!

WyngZero ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:19:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sunny Burch reminded me of Justin Hammer from Iron Man 2.

socraticmethod88 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:22:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Interesting choice to replace Scott Lang with Paul Rudd

My_OMAD_weighs ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:23:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The funniest marvel movie with the most unexpected post credits ending. The entire theater SCREAMED in unison.

BRAND_NEW_GUY25 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:27:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The best part is that TI wore his hat in classic TI fashion

srslybr0 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:36:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

really enjoyed the film, i'd give it a solid b+.

i don't think walton goggins was really necessary for the film though, you could probably remove him and merge his subplot with ghost's and it'd be pretty much the same. i honestly thought he was hinting at a greater villain in his scene with hope, when he was talking about selling to other customers.

evangeline lilly was definitely the star of the movie, the interactions with lang's daughter were really good too. the movie ultimately had too many subplots going on at once though, it was kind of jarring to keep swapping between so many.

BattleUpSaber ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:37:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

RIP Antonio :(

KingTyranitar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

F

AxelV2 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:38:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m so glad they brought back Luisโ€™s story-telling! For a second I thought he was going to narrate the airport scene from Civil War, and we are going to get a bunch of Avengers cameos with Michael Peรฑa dubbed over them.

Also, those mid/post-credit scenes! The mid-credit scene was already scary enough, but the post-credit scene with the warning on the TV and the static noise was really eerie.

Scottyflamingo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:44:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If only instead of the ant it was Cassie sitting alone in house crying...

iwishitwastomorrow ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:51:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

randall park and paul rudd had some magical chemistry

setsuna1f1seiei ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:14:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i really wanted them to go out for dinner at the end

CTeam19 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:56:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I am glad Bill Foster wasn't some throw away character like other named dropped characters from the comics. Love Jimmy Woo hope to see more. Once again not just a throw away named character from the comics. Action was great. Fantastic world building with Bill working for SHIELD in the past and Ghost back story. Hydra didn't get full control of Ghost. At some point Nick, Bill, Hank, Howard, and Peggy were at SHIELD together. This wrinkling my brain. Give Cassie the Statue name and costume. I can't wait till Phase 6, hopefully.

No Hawkeye in 2018. :(

Permanenceisall ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:06:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I lost my shit at that Morrissey reference.

TheCrystalShards ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:13:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Glad Ghost didn't end up dying. Keeping my slim hopes of a Thunderbolts movie alive.

myslead ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:38:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

wow I had not connect the fact that Ghost was thunderbolts ghost because she was a woman in the movie lol

Bob_the_Monitor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Zemo, Vulture, and Ghost. It can still happen!

Minifig81 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:23:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That mid-credit scene.

Ouch.

SharpReel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:41:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kinda wish the post-credits just stuck to the empty shots of the house (and maybe some of an emptied city). Just the emergency sirens and distant people screaming off-screen. Would've hit harder than cutting to the ant playing the drums, even if it added that bit of comic relief.

TaddWinter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:48:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You needed the comic relief, otherwise the question mark would have been too much. Fake people out with humor so they let their guard down then knife them in the heart.

ccable827 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I want to agree but I really don't think I would have been able to handle all the emptiness, or even just Cassie walking around. To me, it needed the drumming ant. Cause just thinking about the emergency signal in the empty house gives me CRAZY chills...

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:43:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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TaddWinter ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:45:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well to be fair no one would be in his house right? Cassie would be with mom and mom's bf/husband. But yes I thought it would be their house and Cassie would be alone.

Gold_Rebel007 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:44:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Kinda wished Janet had survived the snap so there could still be an Ant-Man and the Wasp.

UnexpectedNickelback ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:44:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can someone explain something to me?

So there was this huge alien invasion happening sometime after they got hope's mom back. And yet they didn't... like, react properly? When they were building the smaller tunnel, they were kinda chill, not the kind of reaction one would expected if earth got invaded by a few gigantic spaceships.

TaddWinter ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:47:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The timing is unknown, the film proper could have ended a year before IW for all we know and only the post credit scene lines up with it.

yrqrm0 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:58:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think they UnexpectedNickelback means they were calm while standing around the small tunnel. By then at least a few hours should have passed with them hearing about the attack on the sanctum.

TaddWinter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah who knows how long they have been out their doing their thing. I mean without them being Avengers not sure who would alert them. That is in universe.

In terms of looking at it as a film ultimately doesn't this share the same thing of "why are The Avengers/Justice League not showing up for every big threat" dichotomy of comics. There is a bit of compartmentalization needed. This isn't exactly that but close.

UnexpectedNickelback ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:00:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Still, what we do know is that they built and tested the mini quantum tunnel right before the snap. The snap happened after the battle of wakanda, and the battle of wakanda happened after the invasion on earth.

I don't doubt that they could just build it and test it during the invasion. It's just that they're so nonchalant.

TaddWinter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:04:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That is what I mean though they could have developed the mini over the course of the theoretical year, then the attack happens while they are setting it up.

I guess I took it to mean they are not aware it is going on, or if they did Hank told them it is Stark's (aka The Avengers' problem).

ScarecrowTEP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But between NYC getting invaded and the Thanos snap...they didn't think maybe now isn't a good time to run an experiment?

weaslebubble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why? "Oh New York got invaded briefly. Better put everything on hold while I wait for this news story to resolve." People's lives carry on through almost anything. I don't see how an attack on the other side of the country would impact them.

sethbenw ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:59:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Alien spaceship sets down in New York City" Yea, what else is new.

Also the attack on Wakanda started only a few minutes before Thanos showed up for the snap, it felt longer in the movie because they kept cutting back to Titan and the other plot-lines. People just didn't have time to react to the alien invasion before they had to react to everyone turning to dust.

Take the post-credit scene in IW for example, Maria Hill says "multiple bogies (the Outrider ships) just touched down in Wakanda" just moments before her and Nick turn to dust.

UnexpectedNickelback ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:09:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's also something that bothered me. Nick and maria are just riding normally on their car. Like, iron man and spiderman went missing. Huge spaceships landed on earth. One would imagine they'd be more on alert?

sethbenw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:10:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Alien spaceship sets down in New York City, Tony Stark is fighting them" Yea, what else is new.

UnexpectedNickelback ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're saying "what else is new" like this is your grandma offering you cookies when you visit her. This is an alien invasion, such an event would still be a big thing even if it happened 10 times.

teddywerebear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Until such time as the world ends, we will act as though it intends to spin on."

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's also on an entirely different continent.

Uncanny_Doom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:11:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's not really a "huge alien invasion."

There was a small incident from the beginning of Infinity War, and then the Wakanda battle which would've been happening at the same time as the mid-credits scene. It makes believable sense that they wouldn't know or care too much about anything Infinity War-related.

UnexpectedNickelback ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Small incident? A gigantic spaceship landed in NYC. I know that they can simply choose to ignore it and deal with their own thing, but I found it weird that we didn't even get a single comment about it

Uncanny_Doom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the scope of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, a spaceship landing in NYC and Tony Stark going missing is obviously not a hiccup, but it's not an alien invasion. The climax of Avengers 1 was an alien invasion. This isn't something that I could imagine would be a huge deal because the way Infinity War and this movie play out, the thing that's a big deal happens in the mid-credit scene itself.

We already know Hank Pym and Hope don't care for the Avengers. Janet definitely knows little to nothing about them, Scott realizes he was kind of brought in for extra help and wasn't in contact with anyone that we know of. So really the question is...why should any of them care enough to pay attention to what happened in NYC, or mention it? If Hank or Hope saw the same thing on the news that Wanda sees during Infinity War when she's with Vision, I feel like they wouldn't really care and see it as "just another Avengers problem." Remember that in this world when there's a big problem the Avengers solve it, and they cause their own problems solving it too. Scott didn't know Tony as anyone but the person who got him locked up. None of these people have reason to be concerned until people are turning into dust.

halfblackcanadian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The ship in NY was kind of dealt with rather quickly if I recall (so much so that Spidey got stranded in space).

We also have little to go on in terms of time-passage.

Wakanda is also still very much and unknown publically so that attack could have gone largely unnoticed.

I think we have to assume the set up the Pyms did took a while on that rooftop (?) and they weren't really tuned into CNN or anything.

Arrictine ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:52:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

After this movie, my top 3 favorite MCU Avengers are:

1) Iron Man 2) Ant-man 3) Dr. Strange

Bulbasaur2015 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:31:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost was alright but my speculation was true that she wasnt a villain, just misunderstood...haha...

when Pfeiffer Van Dyne was down in the quantum realm for i dont know how many years, she was an old woman, WHAT THE FUCK did she eat and drink to stay sane and alive

the thing where Lang and cap graffitied/vandalized a wall or whatever in Sokovia, that was a reference to a deleted scene in civil war. its on youtube

they played fast and loose with the physics there (building shrinking w/ electricity, car collisions really)

JoonasD6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:47:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I got the biggest hunch during the movie that she is not that sane, or at least is harbouring some plans of her own...

drzigzag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:48:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did you not see the massive batteries in the background?

Bulbasaur2015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

uh no, but the wheels...the collateral debris

xTheApex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:49:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She talks about it when Hank rescues her. โ€œEvolution and adaptationโ€ I believe the movie wants you to infer that the โ€œquantum healingโ€ and her becoming one with the quantum realm allowed her to survive and overcome those things.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:15:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Chris Stuckmann mentioned their was a plothole in the film. he didnt upload his spoiler review yet so im wondering what it is

I just finished watching it and can't seem to tell what it is, anybody got any ideas.

UnkeptBroom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Something to do with the Quantum Realm I think?

johndoe42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:20:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think not giving antman one of the blue discs when going into the quantum realm is a bit of an obvious plothole but I'll wait to see how they explain it because there's no way they didn't think of that

Uncanny_Doom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know if this is it but I have no idea why Ghost and Bill specifically need Janet for "Quantum Energy" if they can open up something to the Quantum Realm at all.

Like...can't they just find another way? Can't they potentially put Ghost into the Quantum Realm to fix her?

TheHoundThatRides ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:10:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why did Wasp have to shrink the car when she initially went to get Scott? It was cool but seemed unnecessarily risky.

soybrain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:14:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Over precautions maybe? It seems like a lot of people wanted to know where they were. Probably more than just the government and Scott's place would be the most likely for her to show up .

anxious_apathy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They are in hiding so sheโ€™s.... hiding.

just2good ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:18:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I also love how Tim Heidecker was in here. The On Cinema thing with him being jealous of Gregg being in Ant-Man came full circle.

sdupui3 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:02:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How did Michelle Pfeiffer survive the quantum realm for 30 years?

drod2015 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 12:27:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How did Michelle Pfieffer find eye shadow in the quantum realm for 30 years?

still a great movie tho

Blazingscourge ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:45:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Michelle Pfieffer was just born with it.

SBrooks1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:59:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She is that white gold

DrPogo2488 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:26:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe itโ€™s Maybelline.

jaderemedy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:39:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think that Hank Pym said something about that in the first film. Something along the lines of the rules for time and space are completely different in the quantum realm vs in our realm. So maybe time passes differently there. That what was 30 years for Hank was just a few for her.

Chevron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's a comic book movie so who cares about absurdly convenient physics, but the idea that "time and space work completely differently", and the only consequence on human physiology is that you don't need to eat/drink or whatever, but every other aspect of human biology works perfectly, is totally ridiculous. But again, so is everything about the physics of MCU, particularly the Ant-Man stuff with quantum in front of everything.

Moviefan2017 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:39:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Movie was a ton of fun to watch. Paul Rudd, Evangeline Lilly, and Michael Douglas all had great chemistry and it was fun to watch them interact. The Ant-Man/Wasp action team ups were also very good during the action scenes.

It's definitely an improvement of the first film. While the films story and humor is very familiar, all the BTS drama not being here makes a big difference.

Overall I would highly recommend this if you're a fan of the MCU.

omart3 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:06:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There is a lot of parallels between this movie and The Winter Soldier. Hank Pym is to Scott Lang what Nick Fury is to Steve Rogers. Then you got an older partner of Hank's with whom he had a falling out and that guy has a new foot soldier that he is working with, Ghost, just like Alexander Pierce and WS. Both Ghost and WS were being controlled by SHIELD to do missions for them, but at some point they were innocent people, both were in accidents that didn't kill them but gave them some special powers.

Then the movies end with Ghost being cured of her affliction but still on the run because she knows she is still wanted, and WS being able to remember Rogers and also going into hiding.

Altephor1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The more Marvel movies that are similar to The Winter Soldier, the better.

RebelSnowflake ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:21:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Parts of the car chase sequence were definitely an homage to Bullitt.

bjkman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:22:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man and the Wasp will return?

That was an awesome touch.

iJammer96 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:46:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is this basically confirmation that the director is an On Cinema at the Cinema fan? First Greg Turkington and now Tim Heidecker.

pootsforever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. He appeared on one of their Oscar specials.

iJammer96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh. I've only seen bits and pieces of the Oscar specials. Thanks for the info

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The first one is on TV now, and I just noticed Turkington.

Also Paul Rudd appeared on Tim and Eric.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:53:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just gotta say, one of my favorite movie soundtracks ever. Gotta love alternate time signatures

Leo_TheLurker ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:08:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie was really good! It was tons of fun, the action was awesome, Ghost was super cool, and it was really funny. Baba Yaga and Luis' storytelling were my favorite jokes. (RIP Business hair) My only complaints is that all the set pieces were kinda revealed in the trailer so there wasn't much that was "new" in the action scene department and I wish there was more Ant Man action.

On that post credits scene I was waiting for something to go down but not like that. The empty world was disturbing too. That ant did not make it ok!

Overall: the movie was 7/10! Can't wait for Ant Man until Avengers 4!

spunkyweazle ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:24:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't like it as much as the first one but thought it was okay overall. Ghost was an interesting character, being an antagonist but not necessarily a villain

_KanyeWest_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:41:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

After an amazing tour de force anti-film in the avengers infinity war, it was really nice to see another light hearted heist film with ant man and friends. The jokes were very funny and the action was solid. The ending..., holy crap I didnโ€™t see it coming!!!

RogerDeanVenture ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:29:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was that tim heidecker as the boat captain at the end??

CaptainLang ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:17:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

From Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job? Yep. That was him.

Megaman1981 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:28:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, that was him. If you look closely, you can see Tayne in a scene or two.

SupremeLeaderSnoke ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:40:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yep! His character's name in the credits was Captain Daniel Goobler.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:49:10 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man 3 needs to cap the On Cinema cameo trifecta by giving Joe Estevez a role.

Mc1I7 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:30:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did anyone notice the reference by Hank Pym to Scott about staying away from the time portals or some sort in the quantum realm???

lionnyc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:36:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, between this and other leaks about Infinity War II, I've figured everything out.

im_so_not_creative ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:56:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The way the ants/insects were used in this movie kinda reminds me of Skitter's powers from Worm

Android003 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:18:38 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Would you have come with me?" I wish he would have asked again at the end.

cartelstre ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:38:52 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Were there 2 or 3 dust clouds?

whereismymind86 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:52:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

definitely three, but it was Luis' van so, he could be nearby, he could somehow save Scott. Though I think the "time vortex" comment from Janet is a dead giveaway to what will actually happen.

creative_usr_name ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:48:52 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

3

suarezj9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I counted 3

cartelstre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ok I couldn't remember.

DaringDomino3s ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:40:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So, I missed the most recent Avengers movie; is the mid credits scene in reference to that or is it setting it up for whatever movie comes next? Because it was a major let down to a very feel good movie unless it serves some kind of purpose that I missed.

I still had a blast, love these characters and hope they all return for ant-man 3.

brady2gronk ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 13:07:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We've found him! The one person who has managed to somehow avoid Infinity War spoilers since April.

DaringDomino3s ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:22:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thereโ€™s dozens of us!

TheHoundThatRides ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:54:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently Charlie Cox/Daredevil also never saw it. He was confused by a fan question when someone asked him if the Infinity War ending affected Daredevil or not. being vague for DaringDomino's sake

AlbinoStepchild ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:46:28 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah you kinda have to watch Infinity War to understand the mid and post credits scene.

DaringDomino3s ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:50:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The scene with the ant drumming? I thought it was just a silly way to end the show.

SomaliRection ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:52:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The ant was drumming, but the emergency broadcast signal going on the in the background is what ties it into the rest of the MCU

DontAskIfImWorking ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:13:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

People really hated that end credit scene. To me, it was the ant still going on it's programmed daily Scott routine, except no one is there to say get out of my way. Or for Hank to call it back home. Which is sad.

SomaliRection ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:15:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, I absolutely loved it. You're exactly right.

DaringDomino3s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Okay, I noticed that, didnโ€™t really know what was going on there, must have disregarded it. Going to have to wait until it gets itโ€™s digital release to see it at this point though. Thanks

SomaliRection ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:00:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah dude, don't know how you've avoided spoilers for IW this long so I'm not gonna be the one to tell you but...you really should see it ASAP. It's a phenomenal film and it will explain what happened in the post credits sequences.

DaringDomino3s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks!

Iโ€™ve avoided r/all for the last several months and skipped past anything with thanos in it.

The issue is I donโ€™t want to pay full price to see it without 3D, my kid was in school when the movie came out and now that itโ€™s summer break Iโ€™ve been catching up on all the MCU films we missed.

AlbinoStepchild ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:58:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's important significance of the Ant being the only one in the scene and no one else.

JediJones77 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:10:39 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did half the ants get killed?

Fn_Spaghetti_Monster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:06:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Better question than I thought it would have been.

chunkybuttflake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:22 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No

sweetcuppingcakes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And to understand Reddit, currently

Nollasta_poikkeava ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:46:42 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. It ties directly to Infinity War and it'll get resolved in Avengers 4 next year.

DaringDomino3s ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:53:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks, Infinity wat is in that place where itโ€™s out of 3D but still at the expensive theater, so Iโ€™m gonna have to wait til it gets to the 2nd run or Itโ€™s Digital release at the end of the month, but being on Redditโ€™s been hell these past couple months.

Nollasta_poikkeava ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:56:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can imagine. But now I'm curious. Was Ant-Man & The Wasp cheaper for you, or are you just more interested in Ant-Man than the Avengers?

DaringDomino3s ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:21:47 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well usually the Avengers movies are longer and a little more serious, and no one who can drove that lives with me wants to see it. But my mom liked the first one and I figured sheโ€™d like this one, too.

I also missed Deadpool 2, so far.

But it is cheaper to see it not 3D, but I prefer 3D to not with these kinds of movies if I can, itโ€™s more immersive this way and I think the graphics are more believable in 3D.

Nollasta_poikkeava ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:34:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, that makes sense. Did your mom like this one?

DaringDomino3s ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:42:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, until the mid credit scene, she hated that.

SawRub ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:21:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh damn, maybe there could be a way to inform people to only stick around for the credit scenes if they've watched the Agengers movie or something.

DaringDomino3s ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:07:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Meh, I think itโ€™s fine, Iโ€™ll probably see Infinity war before I see ant man 2 again so it will balance out. My kid hasnโ€™t seen either, so Iโ€™ll probably watch IW this summer as a rental and AM2 when it gets to Netflix.

But yeah, it was kinda lame, I just chocked it up to suspense building.

SawRub ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:13:54 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Have fun! I really enjoyed IW and wish I was watching it for the first time again!

DaringDomino3s ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:15:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks! A lot of people speak highly of it.

wdalphin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:09:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know if this is achievable, but can someone explain to me where Janet got the cloak/hood she was wearing when Hank found her in the quantum realm? In his flashback, she disappeared on the missile while only wearing the Wasp suit, and she became trapped in the quantum realm for however many decades... in a subatomic dimension outside of time and space that everything we've seen of it makes it appear to be either a dark void you float through or a landscape akin to walking on the surface of a quark like it's the size of an island. I didn't exactly see any life of any kind at that level, yet Janet showed up wearing a new white hood/cloak over her Wasp suit.

sweetcuppingcakes ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:28:47 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was wondering how she was able to sustain herself at all, food-wise.

raptor102888 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:54:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just assume the "quantum energy" kept her alive the whole time. She said it changed her after all.

Honda_Driver_2015 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:36:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

right, it would of been better if 'time moved faster' there and she came out a few hours or days older

weasel-king68 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:53:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wondered about time differences, too, but ultimately just settled with it being cheaper to not rely on CG since it would have been closer to her natural age.

fugor ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:47:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought I saw a dome city as they were leaving the quantum realm. Sadly they moved to fast to get a good look at it.

cokeiscool ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:38:00 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Im pretty sure I saw a city as well

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:48 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

what would that allude to?

anthonyongg ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:11:54 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pym Particles, ain't gotta explain shit.

DeathChill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:23 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey, it worked for Vibranium!

TheHoundThatRides ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:13:01 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't exactly see any life of any kind at that level,

People have mentioned seeing a bubble city of some sort when they are leaving the realm.

binkleykun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I swear I saw a bubble city in the upper left corner of the screen when they are flying out of the realm

chunkybuttflake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How do you know it wasn't just a bubble

binkleykun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:38 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Could have been I thought I saw like green structures (towers) inside. I will have to watch the film again and pay more attention.

chunkybuttflake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:39 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Me too.

skonen_blades ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:20:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No to mention a giant edged staff of some kind.

FullMetalPyramidHead ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:22:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was made from her wings.

skonen_blades ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:01 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh of course! I love it. Awesome. That's why it was transparent. Thank you. Obvious now that you point it out. Thank you.

ValhallaGo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but why?

FullMetalPyramidHead ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:02:38 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No idea. Also don't know where she got the cloak.

ValhallaGo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:18 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I figured the cloak was from a repurposed parachute. But as to why she needed a staff, I'm really not sure.

iHELDyourhand ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:53:40 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So Scott is gonna totally go down a time hole in the quantum realm right and might be able to change some stuff in the past

chunkybuttflake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:57 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or the future

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:41:04 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

presumably the past since the leaked set photos show the avengers in their old suits with scott

chunkybuttflake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:50 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also there are rumors of Cassie Lang being recast as A teenager. She becomes A superhero like antman after her father died in the comics. Maybe Cassie survived the snap and antman is sent to the past leaving her all alone in the future.

NyuBomber ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:09:59 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

8/10 from me. About what I expected coming off of IW. Overall better than the first, but the first felt more even in quality; it felt like the sequel was meh in act 1 but picked up in act 2.

haildecoysnail ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:44:45 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hannah John-Kamen was pretty good in this! (Why do I keep seeing her in every film now?) I didn't like her in RPO and thought she was bad and hamming it up, but she's decent in this. Ghost is a really cool character. I wish she got more screentime.

Zealot360 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:59 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think she could be a really cool hero character in future Marvel films. I love her powers (which don't seem to be 100% cured according to the credits scene).

JorahExplorer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:29:38 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is Janet falling into the Quantam realm and being saved 30 years later canon and pivitol to the comics???

gnosticpopsicle ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:08:14 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, Janet was actually a founding member of the Avengers.

BlinkPlays ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:13:11 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's a theory (well, was unless you change it a bit) that the Avengers use time travel of some sorts to travel back to the Battle of New York in the first Avengers movie to warn the members. Ant-Man and the Wasp would time travel back, therefore retroactively making them Avengers founders. Of course, with the recent events and the unfortunate mess the Pym family has left, it's unlikely Wasp will be time traveling with Ant-Man.

johopa70 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:40 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Janet even named them, "The Avengers".

But there was a relatively recent storyline (2012) where Janet was lost in the Microverse (comics version of the Quantum Realm).

Zcarp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:53:27 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ahm. Tiniverse.

Fut-Boy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:20:57 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

MiniVerse

VexedPopuli ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:23:32 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely wasn't the best narrative-wise but I love the characters so much that I still had a blast watching it (until the post-credits scene punched me in the heart)

freshestpr1nce ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:26:43 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked how it was mostly a self contained story, didn't involve the end of the world or anything. Seeing how the last one was a colossal end of times movie, it was a good change of pace. Although I could see how people think they just played it safe.

I would like to see Marvel take some more risks, like not every character should be a wise cracking jokester. BP was kinda like that I guess.

I thought it was good, funny, well made, but ultimately forgettable.

BlaidTDS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:58 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would like to see Marvel take some more risks, like not every character should be a wise cracking jokester.

I feel this is almost an unfair complaint against a genre of movies inspired by comics. As in Comical. They're supposed to be funny, that's kind of the whole point.

TheNashvilleSound ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:06:54 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked it. Didn't love it. Loved the first stinger, though.

MontanaSD ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:13:58 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Great movie, lots of fun.

skykek ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:44:44 on July 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i really liked it

MirrorNexus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:32:40 on July 30, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked it. I wish we learned more about the quantum realm though.

Also, I read that in the comics, Cassie gets her own powers. Anyone think they're going in that direction with the next upcoming movies? They didn't show her getting snapped, so it's possible she grows up a scientist (or...meets a scientist...Tony?) and stumbles on a way to bring her father back, just like they did for the mother.

fetchen ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:28:33 on July 31, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They casted an older Cassie for avengers 4. And there are theories that avengers 4 will be based around time travel and stuff, so it is very possible that there will be an older Cassie (Stinger) in avengers 4 to fight alongside her dad

Pictosan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:01:13 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought from the beginning they would snap Cassie. But thinking about it, it would look a lot like they showed a kid dying in the MCU. Obviously we know theyโ€™re not gone forever, but it would look bad.

Mental_Caregiver ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:10:22 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So I got to thinking about this movie and how the time vortex within the quantum realm will likely play a role in Avengers 4. Here's my theory that's probably already been said somewhere (EDIT: THIS IS NOT CONFIRMED, BUT IN CASE THIS COULD BE TRUE, DON'T READ IF YOU DON'T WANT POTENTIAL SPOILERS):

While Scott is trapped within the quantum realm, he will eventually fall into the abyss of the time vortex. While there, he'll notice there are numerous tears in the fabric of the space-time continuum mainly due to Dr. Strange's time loops. Given that Avengers 4 is potentially casting an older Cassie, it is plausible that Scott will travel to the future via the time vortex, as the ripples suck him into a post Thanos snap world where the effects of it still remains, let's say 10 or so years from the current timeline in the MCU. When Scott arrives, he discovers San Francisco to be in tatters, and when he sees the date of 2028-ish, he is horrified. He seeks to find Cassie, who fortunately survived the snap along with her step father. The three of them are of course overwhelmed with emotion, as Scott explains his predicament, and etc. Maybe Cassie goes to join Scott, rejuvenated that her father is alive, given how Ant Man and the Wasp does have her ask Scott if she can be his partner. Whatever the case, Scott will eventually head to New York to seek out the remaining Avengers, where he finds a dejected Tony Stark, who appears to have aged far more than the 10 years that past, moping in the Avengers HQ. Eventually, Scott is able to convince Stark that the war with Thanos hasn't ended quite yet, and they gather the remaining Avengers to travel back to the battle of New York before the Infinity Stones were located. This would explain why Stark's hair appears to be graying in this picture. Perhaps Bill Foster will aide the heroes in helping them with the mechanics of the quantum realm as they travel to the past.

Anyway, TL;DR, Scott travels to the future via time vortex, convinces remaining Avengers to continue fighting, and they travel to past to stop Thanos before he begins.

2rio2 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:20:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Near complete agreement. One slight edit is I'm of the mind that the time vortex created was from Thanos cutting back 20 seconds to save the Mind Stone from being destroyed by Wanda (which would correlate to when Scott was specifically in the Quantum Realm). I think that would add one crucial story element - it would line up Wanda' very difficult decision in the last film to go from feeling meaningless to being a key reason the team is eventually able to save the day.

Mental_Caregiver ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:28:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh wow, I didn't really think about that. O_o I was more referring to Mordo telling Strange "the bill always comes due" after his loops with Dormammu, and didn't think about the effects of Thanos turning back time to retrieve the Mind Stone. Perhaps the energy the Mind Stone exerted after Wanda destroyed it, followed by Thanos turning back time to reconstruct the stone and its essence would cause the vortex ripple. That would certainly redeem Wanda's reluctance to kill Vision in IW.

2rio2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:42:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It would also explain Strange's cryptic comments about this being the "only way" to defeat him. One key character point of Thanos is his extreme hubris, and he completely did not appreciate the risk or responsibility of using the time stone when he did.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:30:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

or he sees 2028 is a utopia paradise with plentifully resources and everyone is happy. Living in harmony looking out there cabins to beautiful landscapes.......

SirWolfScar ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:01:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

you have been made a moderator of r/thanosdidnothingwrong.

:P

StayPuffGoomba ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:24:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For 3 more days that is.

SirWolfScar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:35:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

isn't it 2?

either way points to forehead :__:

greatness101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:20 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I feel like 10 years after the snap, society would have recovered somewhat.

super_shizmo_matic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But how does Captain Marvel fit into that?

Mental_Caregiver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:12:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No idea, didn't really take that into consideration. I thought of this at 6 in the morning, decided it sounded good, and made a post.

Potential Spoiler:But I think maybe she'll play a role in helping him get out of the Quantum Realm should he fall into a time vortex.

5thInferno ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for the potential spoilers...

clrobertson ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 15:57:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey, buddy. This thread is for ANT MAN spoilers, not spoilers for A4.

Mental_Caregiver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry, I'll go spoiler tag this, none of this may be happening though, I just came up with this on the spot

clrobertson ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:01:04 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I guess I meant more about the casting rumor you just casually dropped.

Mental_Caregiver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, that's on me, apologies if I spoiled anyone on potential castings.

clrobertson ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:14:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No worries. And sorry if I came off harsh. Just have a long slog ahead of us to A4, and itโ€™s a bitch trying to avoid spoilers.

zeek247 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:20:55 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sooo, how in the world does Janet look the way she does after been in the microverse for 30 years? Also, what the hell has she been eating and drinking?

CynicalRaps ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:19:27 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Janet was in the quantum universe, where time, space, "all things" are irrelevant... also, being that she shrunk subatomic, I don't think she even needed to eat or anything.. She always remained stagnant and never needed anything like a normal person would.. just my guess..

Ali_knows ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:53:08 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with you, but it doesn't make sense that she would naturally age 30 years after that though. I was expecting her to be the same age she was when she entered the Subatomic Realm.

CynicalRaps ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:58:13 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But then they wouldn't be able to cast Michelle!!! Plus it'd be kinda weird to have a 60 year old pym and a 30 year old Janet... maybe her outer image aged but she's still young bucking in terms of health?

Ali_knows ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:02:49 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Either way I think it's safe to say that there is slight plot hole here. Doesn't change the fact that it was a very enjoyable movie.

CynicalRaps ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:05:17 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked it, I like how it was a good standalone film but it didn't take away from the fact that Thanos is still the current BIG MCU threat.

Briscogun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:39 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thought it woulda been cool if when Hank found her in the Quantum Realm she looked 30 but when they come back to reality she's now 60.

let_it_be_easy ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:38:17 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

or getting her makeup

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:55:39 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Taridigrade milk. Like Luke Skywalker did on that Jedi island.

MattB_1013 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:29:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was watching a video discussion of Infinity War where one of the participants theorized that Thanos having to reverse time in order to obtain the Mind Stone is going to have some kind of unforeseen effect on his wiping out half of existence. Thus, when Scott is in the Quantum Realm and Hank, Hope, and Janet are on Earth, there's a split second where their radios go out but they regain communications with Scott. Then from Scott's perspective, he loses contact with Hank, Hope, and Janet completely because they're part of the half that Thanos destroys. I think that the split second in which the group on the outside loses contact with Scott is a time paradox that occurs due to Thanos using the Time Stone to ressurect Vision, and that paradox had a direct effect on the Quantum Realm because as we know, the Quantum Realm is subject to the time/space continuum in a different way than the regular plane of existence. I feel like this entire theory will somehow tie into Scott escaping the Quantum Realm and helping the remaining Avengers defeat Thanos. You heard it here first. Edit: spelling

johndoe42 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:36:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos having to reverse time in order to obtain the Mind Stone is going to have some kind of unforeseen effect on his wiping out half of existence

Did he actually reverse time or did he not use the Time Stone to restore the stone like Strange did to "eat" and "uneat" that apple in Dr. Strange? Didn't require any time travel there, just the effects on the subject. Wanda was still in the same spot she was.

EDIT: Never mind, went back and rewatched the scene. Damn. Mordo flips the fuck out at Strange and says that even messing with that Apple that can cause branches in time and interdimensional openings. That was clearly on purpose...

It's fucking on then.

MattB_1013 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's what I was implying. I probably could've articulated myself better. But yeah, that's what I meant; that using the Time Stone to reverse the effects of time in the Mind Stone will have some sort of effect, and said effect was actually sneakily tested by the brief moment of lost contact with Scott while he is in the Quantum Realm. Edit: spelling

alhasmanygoals ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:40:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Solid theory let's see if it picks up. Having Thanos be the one to undo his own plans is in character, at least his comic character, so I find this theory plausible. Since MCU Thanos is a bit different and hasn't really demonstrated that self impeding success attribute I can see this theory being more about consequences and morality versus character attributes

Jantripp ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:45:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow. That was so much better than I expected. I think I liked it about as much as GOTG and I really loved that. People can say theyโ€™ve got Marvel fatigue until theyโ€™re blue in the face but they really are putting out good films.

J0niboii ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:52:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did anyone spot a city in the quantum realm in the scene where Hank and Janet were taking off or was that just me???

amafternoon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:56:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah you can see a city like structure in the background. Alluding to the Microverse maybe.

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:44:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is more of a nitpick than a criticism, but if Scott is exhausted after being big for a few minutes, how come the human-sized ant that takes his place at home for hours on end doesn't ever get tired? The increase in size that the ant goes through is proportional to Scott's, if not bigger. Is the ant more durable due to its biology? (I'm probably overthinking, but I didn't see anyone else point it out)

drbhrb ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:53:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that aspect wasn't well thought out. He said after the battle in Germany he slept for 3 days. But after Wasp gets him out of the water and wakes him up he is good to go for the rest of the movie with no sleep.

schizoid_clown ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:28:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Acclimation and or Scott playing 100 on 10?

NinjaGuy206 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:17:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott: I destroyed the suit.

Hank: How could you, that was my life's work!

(later in film)

Scott: What if I told you I had the suit?

Hank: You said you destroyed it!

Scott: How could I?! It was your life's work!

onephatkatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Being in the water might have helped with the stress on the body, but yeah I thought about that also. Why didn't he ask her for "Orange Slices" after he got back down to normal size? And then he goes big again? With no days rest?

Joseph-Joestar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:36:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pym particles. Ain't gonna explain shit.

Don't take any science in MCU seriously. It's all plot-convenient magic.

jivebeaver ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:58:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i like how they kept trying to be creative with the wacky physics of growing, shrinking, and phasing and incorporating them into the choreography. my favorite was when ghost regrew the lab and phasing into it as it expanded.

michael douglas is a treasure for this series; he adds much needed gravitas and emotional punch to the moments that demand it, unlike thor 3 which i liked but lets be honest treated everything like a joke

conman1112 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:43:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone else feel like Ava was essentially a female Hunter from Destiny? Not that it was a totally original looking idea to begin with, but I couldnโ€™t stop seeing that.

LuminaTitan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:01:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She also reminded me of the Fury Adepts from Mass Effect 3. She even had their phasing ability.

ChoteBoi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:55:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would upvote this 100 more times if I could. Even from the trailers, I thought that's what I was looking at.

JnRx03 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:10:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Saw the movie 3 hours or so ago, still talking about the movie and the ending with my girlfriend. Honestly, I felt the villians were a little weak, cartoony even, I don't recall the movie ever really going into their motivations as for wanting to go though so much trouble to get Pym's tech, I get Ghost's motivations, but they just felt like they were there just to give the heroes a hard time, but no real motivation out of just being jerks.

Scott's friends, as always, are always a riot when on the screen, along with his daughter and even the agent cho (I think his name was) basically any scene with Scott or those characters were guaranteed to be pretty funny (cept for that mid credit scene)

Liked Michelle Pfeiffer, but her magic powers just seemed kinda out of nowhere and too convenient imo. Also the mid credit scene, it really kinda shook me, even though I saw it coming, I didn't think it'd take all of them away, or that it would just be so sudden especially after how heartwarming and positive the movie was in the end.

Till this moment, i'm still sitting here thinking about it, as I said, it's funny, I saw it coming, logically I figured as much, but man when it happened, I still kinda couldn't believe it. Also the after credit scene was still pretty morbid overall, even with the ant, the TV, and the house showing basically no life, kinda really subtly showed the impact of Thanos' decision.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:22:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The FBI agent was Jimmy Woo

The motivation of the villains was that some people who were implied to be violent found it worth a lot of money ($1 billion) to get the lab for business reasons.

SanityPills ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:13:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The motivation is pretty clear cut. Pym's technology is worth hundreds of billions, if not trillions, of dollars. You would gain a lot of wealth and power from it. Of course the sort of people that want those sort of things want his technology. Pym just wants his wife back.

Yeshua1123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:53:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Those credit scenes were intense. They definitely felt like they were alluding to the impact of Thanos's snap. Half of the planet disappearing would be a catastrophic event and those two scenes left me with chills.

Gcarsk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For the Villains motivation...

They say very briefly(like literally once), that they(or the real boss that we donโ€™t get to meet) wants the lab in order to produce Quantum Energy.

HighClassPenguin ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:21:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I remember a post before about the ball caps and glasses and how they don't help hide identities. "we just look like ourselves going to a baseball game." I had a good chuckle at that nod in the movie.

paulyv93 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:18:58 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Michelle Pfiefer left a nice clue when she mentioned the time travel realm.

suchdownvotes ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:35:05 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow did Hannah John-Kamen play a spectacular role as ghost being terrified of phasing to death

I really hope she comes back to play ghost in the future in a similar role to Nebula, like a Villain turned Anti-Hero

wildontherun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:43 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yessss me too!

Cereborn ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:10:56 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The more I think about it, the more I feel that this is one of the better Marvel sequels in terms of how well a second movie stacks up against the first movie.

I enjoyed this as much as I enjoyed the first one. I do think the writing is weaker in spots, and some of the humour feels too forced. But structurally it's more interesting, and feels more unique in amongst the Marvel movies than the first Ant-Man did. It feels a bit like a caper film of the 90s.

I like how they split up the storyline so the movie didn't really have a villain. There are three separate antagonistic forces, plus Scott's conflict trying to balance the mission with his own life. I enjoy how after Infinity War, they decided to go small with the conflict (in more ways than one). It's a very contained story, just trying to save one person and get their family back together without tearing themselves apart in the process.

I loved Eva. Partly I'm biased just because I love Hanna John-Kamen, but also it was really nice to see an antagonist who is purely focused on personal survival. No other Marvel movie has done that. So you don't want her to fail, you're just concerned about how far she will go. Unfortunately, I felt the character came out underwritten at the end, and the relationship between her and Foster felt incomplete.

Far from a perfect movie, but it did a great job of following Infinity War with something completely different.

BLACKHORSE09 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:41:18 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was boring but I didn't think it was necessarily bad. Mostly just dialogue in really boring settings. Score sounded like any generic action score and incredibly underwhelming. Humor was decent. Action was pretty meh until the last 1v2 fight.

The quantum scenes looked like a marvel movie budget, yet they weren't anything mindblowing and they didn't do anything creative with it, it was just a realm they visit. And apparently you get magical superpowers there that of course solve the villain's dying curse (how convenient).

Also unless I'm missing something Fishbourne's character didn't make a whole lot of sense. He took pym hostage so they could try to fix Ghost, and then later he says pym could help. So why the fuck did he take him hostage. Why not just make a deal with him at first if her life was in danger? Why not offer him shelter in exchange way back when pym was still running?

Ubarlight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:39 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And apparently you get magical superpowers there that of course solve the villain's dying curse (how convenient).

It's based on a comic book. Where you can get powers from falling into toxic goo instead of getting mortally poisoned. I'm willing to give them some room there.

Also unless I'm missing something Fishbourne's character didn't make a whole lot of sense. He took pym hostage so they could try to fix Ghost, and then later he says pym could help. So why the fuck did he take him hostage. Why not just make a deal with him at first if her life was in danger? Why not offer him shelter in exchange way back when pym was still running?

They hated each other. They state this in the movie. Pym hated anything SHIELD and Fishbourne assumed that Pym wouldn't help. It's classic hubris drama. I felt that part was realistic.

MatttheBruinsfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:50 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And apparently you get magical superpowers there that of course solve the villain's dying curse (how convenient).

At least the villain came into contact with them at all because she was specifically seeking the working quantum tunnel to re-expose her to the energies that destabilized her in the first place. It's great for her that Janet ended up being able to manipulate those forces intentionally to help, but her plan wasn't factoring that in ahead of time.

NoKenjataimu ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:40:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Evangeline Lilly is one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my entire life.

InternetDickJuice ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:16:33 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is the only comment on this thread with which I fully agree

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 13:28:06 on October 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is easily one of my top 10 Marvel films. Of all time. I fucking love the MCU.

[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 13:29:15 on October 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How embarrassing.

cleesus ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:55:36 on October 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

im sorry i bust out laughing at this comment

Daiguren_Hyorinmaru_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:33 on December 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Excuse me? What the ...

CaptainClumsy04 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:15:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cassie4BestSuperheroDaughter

hardgeeklife ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:37:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Giant bathing ant?

:)

Daddy breaking house arrest terms on TV?

:>

Po-po coming to bust Daddy?

LIE lie lie lie lie

jnug2020 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:37:33 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thoroughly enjoyable, although the difference in tone from other MCU films felt a little jarring.

Felt more like a Disney Channel movie than an MCU movie. Well, everything before the credits scene.

chaosaxess ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:53:53 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

All the previews in my theater were aimed towards younger audiences. Definitely think that is what they were going for with this movie. It is a good family film.

captainnermy ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:37:10 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I might be misremembering, but is this the first marvel movie with no deaths(excluding the post-credit scene)? Weโ€™re told the villains are willing to kill and they do attempt to kill some people, but thereโ€™s no actual murders and apparently not even accidental deaths.

mjkevin247 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 01:34:30 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost killed at least one fbi agent when she took the lab

Toffepeer28 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:20:02 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean some of those car crashes seemed pretty deadly to me.

noobalicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:05 on October 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Where the hell did the bikers come from after they went down the steep windy road?

vreddy92 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:01:50 on July 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The flashbacks showed the deaths of Ghostโ€™s parents. Does that count?

LunaLeoLeonard ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:35:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Something I havenโ€™t seen mentioned yet but I thought was a cool little Easter egg: when Scott is showing off his close up magic and does the trick where he snaps and the card changes from a Queen to a 6. He snaps and the cardโ€™s โ€œvalueโ€ (Queen could be considered โ€œ12โ€ i.e. 10, J(11), Q(12), K(13)) is halved, just like the population when Thanos snapped in IW.

Sweet_Tangerine50 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:04:45 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is way cool, thanks for pointing it out.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:45:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Woah! :)

Bamres ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:20:00 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

AntmanDidNothingWrong

indig0sixalpha ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 01:56:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

so with Laurence Fishburne being in the movie was the baba yaga reference a John Wick easter egg?

also, September from Fringe. still bald. still messing around with time.

24pg13 ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 02:33:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Baba Yaga is a part of the cultural zeitgeist in a huge part of the world. Its like mentioning Santa Claus.

PM_me_ur_FavItem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:57:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Are you saying Tim Allen is in the MCU???

LetMePointItOut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:46:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, he's in the Christmas Cinematic Universe. The Grinch, Tim Allen, Rudolph, and Jesus.

Worthyness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Santa claus is one of the most powerful mutants in the world.

300andWhat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

am Russian, can confirm, she a crazy scary bitch

MyUsernameIsJudge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loved the little musical teases whenever he said "baba yaga"

13inchpoop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well no one went to Applebees so...

RoxFurious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:32:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, September was in the movie? I couldn't recognize him, who he was?

indig0sixalpha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Elihas Starr, the guy that opened the first quantum tunnel/ father of Ava (Ghost).

plagues138 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 23:58:01 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just got out of the theaters. Man.... What a boring moviem. It wasn't bad. Just, ehn. Best part was the after credit scene. The first one.

There was maybe 30 people in the theater, and it was dead silent. The jokes were all so... Forced and crap. The action was alright. The bad girl was cool looking, but kind of just dumb. I don't know it was maybe the 3rd worst marvel movie?

And the editing was awful. Scenes just jumped around, people just appeared wherever they're needed with nonsense of time....

Nolat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:49:38 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My take isn't as harsh as yours, but yeah this was the weakest marvel movie in recent memory. I actually fell asleep in the middle...

thompsonite24 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:48:55 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

According to Infinity War, Scott couldn't help out because of house arrest. Yet when The Snap happens, he is no longer on house arrest. Am I supposed to believe that Hank and Janet built the smaller quantum tunnel in around 24 hours after she was rescued? Seems like that would have taken a lot longer, especially since I presume they're still fugitives.

Or is it better to just assume that the Avengers don't know when Scott's house arrest ends and just assume that he's still on it?

Cota760 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:03:10 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Following house arrest, he was on 3 years probation without superhero antics.

thompsonite24 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:42:40 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I forgot that was part of the deal. Good catch.

neoslith ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:27:51 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, considering the movie it's in, they used the Pym Particle to just make it smaller.

thompsonite24 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:47:01 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's certainly a possibility/probably what happened, but events after Janet was rescued, (i.e. Hank and Janet "building" their house and Scott and Hope's movie date) show that at least some amount of time passed between the rescue and the mid-credit scene.

Kadexe ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:55:52 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I assume the Avengers just didn't know.

nickthebravery ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:33:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

anybody else really enjoy watching marvel movies but then never get the urge to watch them again?

FatalFirecrotch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:54:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thats how I am with most of them. I think they are generally entertaining movies, but they hardly ever do anything super interesting or memorable because they are always just setting up for the next one.

johndoe42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:31:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Saw it in 3D. Can't wait to go see it again.

Bamres ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:40 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I only rewatch to watch a certian scene or check for a detail that someone points out but yeah only a few of the movies are rewatchable for me

LimaActual ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

had this exact feeling for this movie. watched it purely for the Infinity War tie in- absolutely no desire to watch it again.

nickthebravery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought this movie was great but I just don't get a urge to watch any of them again. Like after i saw IW I thought i was going to want to see it again because of how much was in it.

StagOfBaratheon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:50:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If any of them are rewatchable, I would say its Infinity War. Best set pieces and great villain. Everything is on the line in it and it shows. It just needs a resolution

llahsram555 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:54:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

probably because this is the 3rd MCU movie to come out this year. Why rewatch when you can see a new one?

Dallywack3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Some of these films are THE most disposable movies of this decade.

Kyoushin ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:52:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

WASP might be the most badass female at the moment, with some training from Black Widow she'd beat everyone

69party69 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:19:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man it must really suck for Janet.

Stuck alone in the Quantum Realm for 30 years with no one but hungry waterbears for company, only to be dusted away mere weeks after returning

svel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:31:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i don't even know how she noticed them. she was sub-atomic/quantum and should be so small that she can't even notice them. Baby tardigrades are around 0.05mm which is on another scale completely than "quantum"....

69party69 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:32:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pym Particle logic

Either that or MCU waterbears are far smaller than real world ones

swng ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:14:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't we see Hank shrink even further after seeing them?

cracked_mud ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:23:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, his shrinking process got momentarily delayed at microscopic levels while he was shrinking down to the quantum realm.

svel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:15:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

that was my point, i remembered that as well.....

svel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:39:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

like quantum-waterbears? yep, i am just going to put "quantum" in front of everything.

Passwordis12 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:01:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I hope that Avengers 4 takes a few minutes at the beginning to show how Earth reacted to the snap.

SetBrainInCmplxPlane ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:16:14 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The dead TV signal during the end-cred felt pretty eerie. Even juxtaposed against the humorous absurdity of the ant on the electronic drum set.

ChappieBeGangsta ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:22:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why are they doing science experiments while Thanos attacks Earth? By the time the snap happens things have already hit the fan.

VerticalEvent ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:46:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant Man and The Wasp are in San Fransisco, while most of the attacks in A3 is in New York and takes place over a couple of hours. They could have been busy all day prepping for the expirement and haven't been paying attention to the news.

myusernamestaken ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:55:52 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

haven't been paying attention to the news.

This could explain why those 3 'kids' in the coffee shop were glued to their laptops rather than watch Ant Man outside stop the truck he rode on!

Tamizander ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:23:16 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That happened way before Thanos.

ChappieBeGangsta ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 01:07:24 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean...I guess. That's a little weak imo.

VerticalEvent ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:41:00 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why is it weak? He's not an Avenger and he has his own life to live. It's like why Captain America wasn't in Iron Man 3 - they have their own stuff going on.

ChappieBeGangsta ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 02:25:49 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Alien invasions tend to be big news..

VerticalEvent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:46:07 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sure... if you're near a radio or a TV and not busy running an experiment to help save someone's life.

And, even if Ant Man and Wasp heard the news of aliens in New York, what are they going to do? The aliens only hung out for about an hour before disappearing for Wakanda.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:19:03 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They were outside, on top of a building. San Fran was just quiet, people were having a normal day. That doesn't make sense if literally every civilian has a phone. City would have reacted and then Ant-Man wouldn't be stuck. And even if they did the experiment anyway, they wouldn't just be laughing and having a good time cracking jokes with the knowledge that Thanos is murdering people and the Avengers are in a fight for their lives.

SupremeLeaderSnoke ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:09:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's just one of those things you've gotta suspend your disbelief for regarding superhero stories. like how big cities are death traps that are constant warzones being partially destroyed and attacked by crazy shit daily yet the citizens still try to live normal lives.

But it's fun to come up with some in universe explanations for it so ill try a few.

A. Mankind is just kinda used to the occasional alien invasion so they don't all stop their lives suddenly

B. From the average citizen's perspective, The invasion didn't last long. They see a giant ship come from a portal in the sky, a few streets get wrecked and it leaves along with the disappearance of Tony Stark. The only people who know what's really happening are The Avengers and the folks in Wakanda.

Bomber131313 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:17:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

show how Earth reacted to the snap

How about how the Universe reacted?

ThaGama ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:24:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly enjoyed watching this movie. The character development was great and even though Ghost wasn't a well constructed villain, it didn't harmed the overall quality of the movie. One of my favorites yet.

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:30:39 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Really? I liked her a lot.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:52 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like that she was a complex, redeemable villain. That was different.

Loved the movie and all the humor, my husband, son and I had a great time last night seeing this. :)

simmer_tomato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She's not a one off villain who somehow dies at the end of one film so that's progress i guess.

FullMetalPyramidHead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah really, she was definitely one of the major problems with the movie. Marvel pretty much always has weak villains.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:34 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree, but I thought she was great. She wasn't meant to be the 'main' villain anyway.

Lwsrocks ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:35:33 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is definitely not up-to-par with the recent slate of fantastic Marvel movies, nor is it in the same league as the first Ant-Man. The main weaknesses are:

  • All the coolest moments in the film are in the trailers! Nearly every interesting size-shifting set-piece, you've already seen if you've watched the trailers. And there's very little more to the action scenes than those size-shift gimmicks. They felt like the center of the action in the first movie, and here they feel like after-thoughts.
  • Most of the humor in the movie is that sort of lazy style of improv-y awkward conversations. You know, when characters just talk to each other kind of awkwardly? And it goes on for like half a minute too long? And it's mostly just funny because of how long it takes? They rely on this waaay too hard.
  • The villain(s) are really underwritten. Especially Ghost. It doesn't help that the plot tying it all together is pretty thin, and pretty much every hero main character is at their weakest. They all had arcs of some kind in the first film; Scott learned to be a hero, (classic but effective) Hank learned to let his daughter grow up and be less over-protective, and Hope earned the opportunity to be the Wasp. Nothing like that in this film.

There are things that the movie did well:

  • The soundtrack was really good, and on a few occasions I really noticed it and thought, "wow, that's a really cool way to score this."
  • The after-credits scenes tying in to Infinity War were really good, and I didn't expect it to happen the way they did it. So here's to another reason to be hyped beyond belief for Avengers 4!
  • Michael Pena is still a delight and national treasure.
  • I agree with the sentiment that it feels like a Saturday morning cartoon. I think if it was an over-all better film underneath that feeling, it could've been a more memorable movie, but oh well.
copypaste_93 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:59:50 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

All the coolest moments in the film are in the trailers!

And that is why only suckers watch the trailers.

Lwsrocks ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:14:04 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really enjoy trailers, they're kind of an art in and of themselves. Great trailers are awesome. The Mission Impossible Fallout trailer is one of the best trailers of the year. I don't see why I should be blamed for operating under the expectations set by marketing that they are using to sell me the film.

I guess what I'm saying is, I'd sooner blame the trailer for revealing too much than blame the moviegoer for watching the (often inescapable!) trailer.

makin-games ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 12:35:20 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

An interesting point - nearly zero gun/firing.

I only recall two pistols (not fired), and a few short strange shots of bike riders with guns shooting (but the shooting never appeared on camera, and the guns flashed by in a second).

bokalbo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:27:28 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

really? wasn't there a rapid gun barrage on the chandelier?

makin-games ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:29:44 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah that's true. Still the guns were very underplayed in the movie.

bokalbo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:59:30 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do you count the car chase gunfight and the blasters?

Ubarlight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:15 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I dunno what the blasters were firing but someone got hit with one of those and seemed more stunned than injured.

Jedimaster1134 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 09:15:15 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Some thoughts that I have been mulling over since seeing it 2 days ago:

  • The FBI made some pretty dumb moves, especially at the end.

Darkoonn ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:34:14 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iron Man and Dr. Strange have been take care of the aliens, so no one needed to go there. Also, the main attack was at Wakanda. Probably Pym and Scott didn't get any info about that attack.

Jedimaster1134 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:13:21 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I get why Scott didn't go help out right away. However, Wakanda was just recently thrust into the spotlight because of BP, and NY was already attacked by aliens. Any new encounter definitely would've been headline news.

TravisHarrisAnim ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:45:04 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's also possible that they were aware of the attacks, and decided the best way to help out would be to use the Quantum Tunnel technology they'd just mastered to gather the healing stuff and render aid. I know it's a stretch, but it's not beyond Marvel to retroactively write something like that in.

Jedimaster1134 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:50 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought about that too tbh. If they already did know it would've been soooooooo easy for them to write Scott in a line before he goes in the mini tunnel that said something like, "we should make this quick, I need to find out what's going on in NY after this." One line like that would make it so IW is confirmed as happening, and it would make

johopa70 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:10:51 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I assumed they were trying to be vague about the time line so the ash reveal would stick. If we knew the battle was going on when he jumped into the tunnel we'd have guessed the outcome real quick.

Jedimaster1134 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:37:04 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but since IW came out first we already know they should already know about the battle. I guess they could've left if purposefully vague, but that seems like a really weak excuse. Even vague, offhand references to NY or Wakanda would've been good, hell they already used the news as a plot device why not a quick snippet again? The end still can be an emotionally gripping cliff-hanger because

TravisHarrisAnim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:32 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, you're right. Seems like they just kinda overlooked it.

KindaCritics ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:30:45 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought I was the only one that found that hard to really grasp in the stinger. I found it more confusing on why they just didn't mention it and make that part of the objective.

SlothfulKoala ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:03 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This was my biggest gripe about the movie. I donโ€™t care if Scott said he was out, youโ€™d think the biggest fight in the history of the world would warrant a call? Like the stakes were high.

That post credit scene did nothing but piss me off and leave me asking more questions. If Scott quit the avengers to be with his family, wouldnโ€™t he be concerned that his family could possibly die?

Do none of the avengers know of Hank Pym? Itโ€™s so stupid.

jackattack729 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:15 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean they didn't call Hawkeye as far as we know either. Hank Pym was in hiding so good luck finding him on short notice (only reason Scott was able to was that Scott had his personal phone number, none of the other avengers have interacted with Hank or Hope).

Infinity War took place over about a day, Scott and Co seemed pretty busy with their trip to the Quantum realm. It's not unreasonable that they're so wrapped up in work they think is essential that they blocked out the outside world.

firelordoftherings ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:57:33 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, they didn't call Hawkeye because otherwise it would have been way to easy defeating Thanos.

SlothfulKoala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:47 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m sorry, but it was clearly an attempt to tie in these characters for seemingly no reason. Just change the timeline and exclude them in a neater way. I donโ€™t buy that Scott or Hawkeye would object to saving the world knowing whatโ€™s at risk just because theyโ€™re on house arrest. I mean Christ theyโ€™ve already set the precedent that theyโ€™re willing to go above the law to do whatโ€™s right or necessary.

jackattack729 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:40 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not that they objected but they didn't know

SlothfulKoala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:52 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I get what youโ€™re saying, I just feel like this is a narrative constructed after these characters were cut from Infinity War part 1.

Jedimaster1134 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:43 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If IW did actually take place over a day, I can get why they didn't have the time to get either Scott or Hawkeye out from house arrest. However, it seems like a major stretch to have that short of a timeline. Sure, having the 3 concurrent plotlines in IW would make it literally a long movie, but just based off the events of a single timeline they try and do way too much to pass it off for one day on the timeline.

CornDogMillionaire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:19 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

he should have just bailed

Just in response to this, I think he says at one point that he's gotten some very powerful people involved in this (I assume the ones who want to buy the lab) so it might be more that he has no choice

Le_Euphoric_Genius ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:01:19 on October 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not bad, but not great. Probably a bottom 5 Marvel movie, though that isn't saying much. That thing about how they couldn't save the mom for another hundred years because the quantum particles won't align for another hundred years so they have to do it in the next two hours was so cliche. Also, a lot of the sciene-y stuff just made no sense.

Also Ghost still had weeks. Couldn't they just explain to her in like 2 minutes that they'll help her after they save the mom who is on a really really tight schedule? Jeeez..

Edit: Ok this is a nitpick, but why did Laurence Fishburn's character have to be called Bill Foster? When he was first name dropped I was like, "Oh, Jane Foster's dad?! The one that worked with Erik Selvig?!" Then we see him and he's a black guy and I'm like "Oh."

FHabulous ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:40:44 on October 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

...why did Laurence Fishburn's character have to be called Bill Foster?

Dr. Bill Foster is a superhero on the comics called Black Goliath/Goliath, they were just using the same character ('comparing sizes' scene was a nod to that).

So they didn't NAMED him Bill Foster, they just adapted a character already stabilished as Bill Foster

amorousCephalopod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:55 on October 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It'll be so cool if they do a movie with dimension-hopping later on and jump to a post-Civil-War dimension where War Machine was never paralyzed but Goliath died fighting the good fight with Cap like in the comics.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:13:03 on October 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

About the Foster thing: I never thought about that until you brought it up! Coincidence I guess, since we all know Jane isn't returning.

ItsWex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:07 on October 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also Ghost still had weeks. Couldn't they just explain to her in like 2 minutes that they'll help her after they save the mom who is on a really really tight schedule? Jeeez..

She was told that she had a day left to live and that there was only one method that was somewhat guaranteed to save her life.

Her life only prolonged because of what the mum did to her after escaping the quantum realm.

Backflip_into_a_star ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 10:13:07 on October 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was not a day. Lawrence Fishburne says it is weeks.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:17:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

IT IS TRUTH SERUM!

casewood ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:30:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good lord the humor was great. The Ex Con crew is amazing.

The moment Pym mentioned the time things before the quantum zone with Scott, I had a feeling it will be relevant. Maybe meeting Captain Marvel, or a plan with the future Avengers.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:37:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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InTheOvenYouGo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:44:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like now that heโ€™s in it, he might be able to go to the future and tell Tony about what happened.

LostInStatic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And with the container he can possible heal someone/give them to Ghost?

That was the whole point, to go back in to gather Healing Particles for Ava.

RedXerzk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:35:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, that purple bastard took them too.

I loved Ghost in this. She wasnโ€™t a villain, just a desperate woman trying to keep herself from dying. Hell, this might be the first MCU film without a clear big bad.

Zucc2020 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:43:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Ant-Man and the quest for truth serum"

Your_Left_Shoe ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:23:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm left with a few questions that some buddies and I have been discussing, and I'd like to know some of your opinions.

1: Will being stuck in the quantum realm give Scott Lang quantum powers like Janet Van Dyne (some kind of evolution is what Janet referred to it as in the movie)?

2: In the first end credit scene, Scott is collecting healing quantum energy. What role will they play in the post-snap world?

3: Before entering the quantum realm, Janet tells Scott to be careful of the time vortexes. Will Scott mess around with time vortexes?

4: Is the post credits scene with the ant just for humor, or does it have a deeper meaning?

spicerackk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
r0flhouse ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:27:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

what was scott's ringtone?

acruyff ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:40:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A duck quack and Everyday is like Sunday by Morrissey.

r0flhouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thx! I recognized his voice but couldn't think of exactly who or what it was. Seems like Peyton Reed loves sharing his deep tracks. The Cure in the first movie!

darthsaberv ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:18:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought how the scene w/ Janet suddenly entering scottโ€™s head was a little weird, but okay.. and I was reminded of the Reverse Flashโ€™s time sphere when Hank entered his Quantum Realm-Mobile.
Also does audience size matter in watching film, I watched right after (2100) the initial premiere (1800), and there were only a couple of Marines. Oh whale. The two end credits scenes: I thought that Hope was gonna be the only was snapped, but was surprised at how it was from Scottโ€™s POV seeing all 3 of em gone. Then with the ant playing drums - it took me a second to realize that oh, there is no news networks, there is no people at home... Ant-Man and Wasp will return?

SalukiKnightX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was thinking of Search for Spock when Scott was speaking as Janet. That said, the memory bit where he's in her memory seeing out of her eyes was a bit creepy.

ashsmashers ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:27:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked the movie on the whole. My biggest complaint is there were too many plots trying to wrest sympathy from the audience... Scott as a dad, Pym family reunion, and orphaned-in-pain villain... bordered on melodrama at certain points for me.

I thought there was a missed opportunity with Ghost to do some real body-horror type stuff. Her character design was legit scary, but they didn't take it far enough.

ATL_Dirtybird4Ever ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:22:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dread it, run from it, destiny still arrives...

The_Axe_Murderer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:58:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seems like I'm probably in the minority but did anyone else feel that when T.I didn't have any lines and he just had to stand there and react that he was really bad? Idk like when he had lines he was fine but his facial expressions when he just had to react seemed really forced and over the top but Idk could be just me.

MyUsernameIsJudge ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:10:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you watch non speaking characters react to things you'll notice this a lot.

TheHoundThatRides ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:34:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's cuz if it was a genuine real life thing, he'd just be standing there with a blank look on his face.

But he's on camera and he feels he has to look interesting. So it's cartoony.

laptapflap ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:22:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott Lang: Sorcerer Supreme?

WhiteWolfofUtah ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:57:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't like it quite as much as the first movie (there were points where this movie felt a little... Disjointed, I guess?), but damn was it a fun ride. Scott took a bit of a backseat, but we got a lot of time with Hope, which I liked. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how Ant-Man affects A4!!!

TexasKobeBeef ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:25:28 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can some one tell me about the post credit scene? I had to leave!

theworfosaur ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:39:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Which one?

Mid-credits scene: Ant-Man goes into the quantam tunnel to retrieve some energy for the Ghost. He's in there and the radio cuts out. The scene cuts to show us Hank, Mrs Pym, and Evangeline Lilly suffered The Snap.

Post-credits: showed Ant-Man's house. TV on emergency channel. Hear the drums beating in the background. Camera moves through the house to show an ant playing the drums. Not really worth sticking around for if you ask me.

TexasKobeBeef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:27:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Preciate it!

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:36:28 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Creepeth ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:41:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good catch. Whomever he is speaking to will probably be a future villain in the Antman Universe, maybe even the entirety of the MCU. I am not knowledgeable in Antman comic books, but how about Dr. Doom to help bring in the Fantastic Four? Feige and co. could use this to give the earth-based heroes a mega-villain for phase 4. Probably a future Antman villain, but fun to think about.

Martel732 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:17:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I couldn't catch if they said a name. Possibly a tease for a potential sequel. Unfortunately it was open ended enough that it could be anyone from the Mad Thinker to the Roxxon Corporation.

Vrylox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think Ant Man will only get a trilogy, and I think the villain of the 3rd Ant Man will be Yellowjacket, so he could be the buyer. Or whoever the buyer is, is just going to be another MCU villain.

joeahchay ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:59:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loved this movie, thought the Paul Rudd scene where he was acting as Michelle Pfeiffer was one of my favorite movie scenes this year. Had a question about the first credits scene...

So in IW, there is a definite time lapse between when Iron Man, Banner, Strange and Wong confront Ebony Maw, and when the snap happens. What was Scott Lang doing during this lapse of time between those two events? Because in the post-credits scene, he is on that rooftop about to go into the Quantum Realm, seemingly unaware of the NYC invasion, and within a matter of a minute, the snap happens.

I'm not really trying to criticize it, because I love the narrative angle they are going with this... but that IS kind of a plot hole that I wish I hadn't noticed.

Other than that, loved the movie!

Univirsul ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:58:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean Scott is estranged from the rest of the Avengers and is in California plus Agent Hill and Fury barely knew anything was happening to them before they were dusted even being in NY. Its not really that surprising I don't think many people outside of the avengers and wakanda had any idea what was happening.

MattCarna ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 14:31:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sometimes you just need to take 30 seconds and think before jumping to โ€œplot hole!โ€

The NYC battle is over in like 10 minutes. Ant-Man is based in California...

SalukiKnightX ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:59:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the only news that came out of it was that Tony Stark was missing.

2rio2 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:24:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yup. A large chunk of Infinity War took place off world other than early battle in New York (over quick) and the invasion of Wakanda, which would be slow in making the US news I imagine and happened right before Thanos made his snap. The snap would be the first moment anyone really knew something was wrong.

kidslapper ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:05:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But what is really, really scary is that as far as I can tell, nobody should know that Thanos did it. For all the world knows, there was a big alien invasion in Wakanda and suddenly half of the world disappeared. That is way more terrifying than knowing that Thanos was responsible.

Yuokes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:25:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Going to be awkward when thor breaks the news, or cap I guess.

IceKane ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:31:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's explained in the movie that after the two year house arrest he still has a three year probation, so even if he was aware of the situation, I don't think he could've done anything about it. Just my two cents

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:30:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's not a plot hole. It's reasonable to assume that Scott/Hope choose not to insert themselves into that situation, and there's no inherent contradiction with him choosing to stay in San Francisco.

banterminator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:27:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well he does live on the other side of the country. And maybe he didnโ€™t want to interfere bc of what happened when he joined in on CW.

Maxa30 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:28:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t think they were in NYC, I THINK they were on the west coast, and didnโ€™t hear of it

weizzers ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:06:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah that plot hole was the exact same thing i was wondering! none of them lent a hand to save the universe? really??

Enzown ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:39:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because they didn't know the universe was in danger.

bino420 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:53 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who would have told them? They have no idea what's going on

Mortys_Plumbus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:20:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didnโ€™t know there were two post-credit scenes... What happens in the second one?

ynn1006 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:26:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Really eerie scene that goes through Scott's house which is now silent except for a sound coming from a TV, which is playing an Emergency Broadcast that reads "this is not a test", then pans over to the giant ant playing the drums.

ChristopherChance1 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:34:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Gotta be bannos

redname325 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:11:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And in the background you can hear sirens and people screaming.

SanityPills ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:26:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It shows Scott's apartment after the snap, there's a PSA announcement on the TV telling people that there's a state of emergency and to wait for further instructions... While Scott's ant doppelganger is playing the drum set.

Mortys_Plumbus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:23:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shit... does that mean his daughter is gone too?

SanityPills ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:41:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm guessing she'd be at her mom's place, seeing as how she wouldn't be left alone at Scott's.

Mortys_Plumbus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What if the mom and other guy faded away... Bruh that must be scary for the girl.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:39:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We have no data on his daughter. There is no way she was at his house while he was off doing an experiment with Pym. She's too young to be left unsupervised. I mean she could probably handle it, but legally it's frowned upon for kids below certain ages to be unsupervised in a house for more than a very short period of time. Setup for that experiment alone probably took an hour or two.

As far as I can tell there's no official minimum age for babysitting in California (and thus, for being home alone) but in most places in the US most people seem to think 12 is a good age for a few hours. Some families go younger, but someone who had any exposure to the child welfare system (like say, a police officer whose stepdaughter's dad is an ex con) would err on the side of caution.

If you really think about it, the only person who might have been there at that time was Luis. Do you think he'd be babysitting her? I doooooooubt it.

I think Scott left the TV on as a theft deterrent/ to entertain the ant.

Passwordis12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:00:11 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The TV was on because the ant was programmed to follow Scott's routine, which includes 5 hours of watching TV each day.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:20 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That works too. There's no shortage of compelling reasons for that TV to be on that don't involve a human watching it.

greatness101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:36:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They reportedly cast someone to play his daughter but older in the next Avengers film, but I'm not sure if that means she's been snapped and it's just if they go to the future or if she actually survived as time passes.

KB2408 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:07:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So i buy the whole escaping through a time vortex for antman, but wouldn't the mother have jumped through? She was out there for 30 years. At some point after like a year or 2 she would've just gone through to escape

Maxa30 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:16:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t think she wanted to risk it Incase something was wrong when she came back. Scott now has nothing to lose

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:17:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i found this movie to have a lot of pay off's which is great

zedd31416 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:26:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did anybody else see a city in the background of the quantum realm when Hank and Janet were about to leave?

kylebb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:41:47 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

THIS!!! Who knows more about that??

Dry_Return ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:48 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah i thought i did too but it went by so fast. It looked like it was in a big dome or something.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:43 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Isnโ€™t there a whole subatomic. universe in Marvel Comics? I could swear the Hulk has been there.

Read1984 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Microverse.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:53:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, so the Hulk did spend time there and even had a love interest. Iโ€™d love to see Hulk and Scott end up there in a team up movie.

KanyeSupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, didnโ€™t notice the city but I thought that the twist would be that there is a whole parallel dimension in the quantom realm ( and it even was hinted in the movie once ) , so maybe thats confirms my theory.

Lionwolfe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, it's the quantum realm. It isn't well explored or studied. And perhaps it has a gateway of sorts to the dimension where all the snapped people disappeared to.

Whowutwhen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Came here looking for this question.

Ballsofconfusion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:15 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Came here for this. Yep, Saw it. Looked up Micronauts in Wikipedia and doesn't look like Marvel owns the rights to that, so what could it have been?

Kipple_Snacks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Based on my scouring of r/marvelstudios, it looks like Marvel owns the Microverse and a few characters still, but the specific Micronaut franchise is not theirs (though unsure if anything is stopping them from licensing it if they wanted to use it).

Ballsofconfusion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

According to Wikipedia which granted, is not the end all be all of sourcesโ€ฆMicronauts is part of a Marvel-like shared universe Hasbro is trying to create. I suppose Marvel could license them, but if Hasbro is serious about this shared universe I doubt it's going to happen.

What I'd like to know, if they're unable to put them in, who else could it be? There's clearly some backstory to Janet Van Dyne, what franchise will they tie it to? Janet mentioned something about evolution, I'm not well-versed in obscure Marvel history, anyone have any ideas?

Kipple_Snacks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:54 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Even if the Micronaughts franchise is not used, Marvel still owns the Mircoverse (which predates the Micronaughts), as well as a decent handful of shared denizens apart from the Micronaughts. So it would be fairly trivial to have a tiny dome city and some comic inspired/MCU original characters there to work with.

Will definitely be interesting to see how Captain Marvel and Ant-man tie into Avengers 4, as from everything I've heard, they are major factors, particularly the later, in solving the Thanos/Snap issue.

I'm kinda thinking that a Doctor Strange/Ant-man/Wasp movie running around the Microverse would be a really fun, unexpected cross-over setup. With what I've heard, post-A4 MCU will be a bit less structured than the leadup to Thanos, so hoping for more whacky adventures and unexpected team ups.

Cigaroot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:58:46 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, my bad. Aim was off on my commenting finger.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:17:00 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really hope Scott isnโ€™t stuck in the Quantum Realm for A4. One of my favourite characters. I love how Hope got a ton of action time, but I wish Scott got more.

HesiPullOutJimbo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:18:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I canโ€™t imagine they would leave him out of two movies

Iโ€™m sure him being in the quantum realm will factor into how they defeat thanos

CapnSmite ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:47:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's a set photo out there of Scott and Tony with Avengers 1 era Cap, so it's a safe bet he gets out.

arib510 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:53:31 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who was that teacher who asked Scott for his hall pass? I recognize him

GomuGomu_no_Keyblade ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:37:02 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think heโ€™s google

arib510 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:41:50 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think you're right. Veep and this. Knew he was familiar

jl_theprofessor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:35 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Holy crap. The guy inquiring about Bitcoin may well as be an older investor friend I know.

joker_RED ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:59:18 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
arib510 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:43 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks. I think Veep was what I recognized him from

SaneUse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:53 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Brian Huskey. He also appears in people of earth

Rynyann ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:41:42 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm glad Disney is getting so much out of that Tron deaging tech. Also: That Tim Heidecker cameo was really odd

CornDogMillionaire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:00:58 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

100% agree on Heidecker, I'm not even sure what the point of having him was as he didn't even have a funny line. Maybe he did but they had to edit it out or something

breezett93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:03 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What's his backstory? I've seen his name come up several times now in association with Ant-Man.

Bonzo77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:45 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t think itโ€™s odd at all. Paul Rudd probably asked Heidecker to do it since theyโ€™ve worked together before. I thought this movie was funny as hell and that cameo made sense. The humor for me felt very Wet Hot American Summer at times, like when Michelle Pfeifferโ€™s character is taking over Paul Ruddโ€™s body.

TheAwfulFalafel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:01 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Probably my favorite part once I saw his name in the credits is "Whale Boat Captain Daniel Gooobler."

m-torr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:55:49 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man, I really wanted the snap to happen during the happy montage at the end. Hank and Janet happily admiring their house on the beach then snap Janet starts to fade away. God, that would've been awesome.

I enjoyed the movie overall, but I liked the first one more.

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:26:21 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i dont think that wouldve panned well.

right now we are judging ant man and the wasp right now with the criteria with also how well it blends in with infinity war.

in a few years, we will be judging that movie as itself. any stuff that isn't really relevant to the main story should be in the post credits.

imagine seeing wanda/quicksilver in winter soldier or bucky/sam/steve in ant-man. it would just throw off the cohesive vibe of the main story. having teasers for the future in the post credits is the best way to handle it

willyolio ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:25:46 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. The best decision in the MCU has been to relegate direct links to other films in post credits. Other films only get a casual mention at best and only if it's relevant to the plot.

Unlike DC where you stop in the middle of an action scene to read an email for 4 trailers of upcoming films.

tgo1014 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:07:43 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Savage

plusparty ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:50:31 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fun movie, but I would have wished for a story about adventures in the quantum realm. This movie really didn't need a villain, but it's nice that the villain got a bit of redemption.

willyolio ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:08:54 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Liked it. I'm glad they kept it small scale. Family issues, yay!

Honestly it's hard to place this movie. It's fun, but not the usual marvel fare, but also not quite as polished as it could be.

The mob guys were mostly unnecessary, i found. FBI i liked, the action scenes were good. Ghost is a decent villain, hope she comes back. Maybe a prequel about her time at SHIELD. Janet's powers still kinda came out of nowhere.

Also, the mid credits scene. Niiiiiice.

Tunelowplayslow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:21:41 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can anyone tell me about the credits scene? Didn't get to see it and I'm thoroughly bummed.

hellothere11212 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:31:22 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Essentially,

anonhmous ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:43:00 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

pricedgoods ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:15:30 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Spider survived the snap eh, lucky boy

Tunelowplayslow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:26 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What about people mentioning Stinger? And thank you very much for the info! Bummer that all the geniuses are gone โ˜น

GalladeAggron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:54:23 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

By Stinger, you mean Cassie? And if you do, didn't she become stature the first time Ant-Man died?

tyderian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:24 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think people are confusing stinger (post-credits scene) with Stature (Cassie's superhero name).

GalladeAggron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:37 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah. It is made even more confusing by the fact that in the comics, Cassie is currently Stinger.

jfleit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:17 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh shit, there was also a post-credits scene?

Swagsire ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:35:42 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cinemaphreak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:40:39 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's a lot of photos of Paul Rudd with the remaining Avengers shot on the streets of Atlanta. They are all wearing some funky device on their wrists that general consensus is some sort of quantum realm time-travel device.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:32:36 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Grokrok ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:59:48 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

NY was only briefly attacked by one ship which then left (taking Iron Man and Spiderman). By that point there wasn't anything anyone could do. The skirmish in Scotland only involved Vision/Wanda and the two aliens before they were driven off by Cap and friends and the public was largely in the dark on it. Wakanda is hidden from the world at large so it's likely the main attack there was unknown to the rest of the world, and even then it began only minutes before the snap. Hank Pym wants nothing to do with the Avengers and it's not likely they would ever call on him no matter what (and both are on the run from the government) and highly unlikely either would respond. Scott has been under house arrest for two years, and having convinced everyone (Feds and Avengers alike) he destroyed the suit, the Avengers would not waste their time calling on an powerless civilian. By the time we get to the first post credit scene (with the miniaturized quantum tunnel) they (the "ant" family) were still engaged in a rescue mission to collect enough "healing" particles to continue treating Ghost, and that clearly was where their priorities lay than with paying attention to the news of spurious alien appearances that seemed to be getting handled by the Avengers (at least until the Snap, but by then it was too late).

Sorry for the long reply, but I felt the movie did dovetail rather nicely with IW. At this point in the MCU, the "Ant Man" isn't really a part of the Avengers team, and the "Wasp" isn't even known to them.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:02:31 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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linuxphoney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:17 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's also time that passed between the attack and the snap.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:08:34 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah this was the one thing about the movie that bothered me. But I thought about it, New York was a pretty quick event, ship came, ship left, no more bad guys. Hank probably wouldnโ€™t care if Tony went missing, has happened before (Iron Man 3). Scotland was an isolated incident and shit like that happens all the time in the works now (every solo avenger film basically). Wakanda was happening right before the snap, so maybe news agencies and governments werenโ€™t aware until it was too late. Wasnโ€™t the best scene though I agreed

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:01 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:45:22 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True, but Iโ€™m saying compared to when it was invaded by an alien army and destroyed, an alien ship touching down and a fight happening, then taking off, well itโ€™s kind of minor. Especially considering things like this are happening constantly in the MCU world now

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:38:12 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:29 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

By the world yes of course it would be a big event and on the news. But my original comment was about how Scott and the gang would react to the events, not the rest of the world. We might be getting into semantics with words like major and minor. My point is that, itโ€™s not like aliens invaded and took over NYC and were destroying the world. They came, some small parts of the city got beat up and destroyed (nothing like Avengers 1) and the ship left, all within roughly 30min-1hour tops. We know that Hank doesnโ€™t want to get involved with Stark (or anyone for that matter) and Scott is still trying to keep things under wraps because of the accords. Iโ€™m just saying the event in NY wouldnโ€™t be enough for them to stop whatever they are doing and become involved, especially if the threat was gone. Them continuing their research into the quantum realm isnโ€™t that much of a stretch. Again, just my opinion and definitely not trying to start a huge debate about fictional characters in a fictional world, but I do enjoy discussing it

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:57 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:15 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Would you kind elaborating on these plot holes and inconsistencies? Trust me Iโ€™m pretty judgmental of marvel movies for their flaws. And I definitely though this one had some pacing issues, but I donโ€™t really understand a lot of the flack itโ€™s getting.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:13:33 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:04 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Awesome thanks for the feedback lol

Cinemaphreak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:49:05 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

he characters are all happy, without a care in the world.

After the opening, the characters could not be less carefree.

Hope & Hank are in the final frenzied push to build their quantum tunnel and drag Scott into it. He's stressed that just as he is about to be out of house arrest he could go away for 20. Everyone (even the guys at X-CON) have big problems to sort out.

So by the time the short attack on New York happens, they have their own shit to deal with and can't be surfing the TV or internet. Scotland was a private showdown and what happens in Wakanda stays in Wakanda (plus, the "Battle of Wakanda" happens away from news cameras and in the last hours before The Snap).

Even Maria Hill and Nick Fury were only vaguely aware that something was going on in Wakanda in the moments before they got dusted.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:21 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Cinemaphreak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:11:32 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Actually Nick Fury knew everything that was going on in Wakanda.

Have you actually seen the end-credits sequence from IW? It's very clear that Hill and Fury just know that alien craft are in Wakanda. That's it.

I am talking specifically about the end of the film

Okay, fine - the end of the film takes place after some alien craft was "chased away by Iron Man" (this would be how it was reported news in all likelihood) and the events of Scotland & Wakanda would be unknown to the Ant-Man squad.

linuxphoney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:33 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

maybe, but there's a lot of room to move. For example, there's no reason to assume they hadn't heard about an attack on new York being repelled by the Avengers and just shrugged and went about their work. it sort of looked to the outside eye like they wouldn't be needed.

PokeMasterWrath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:52:26 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Janet Van Dyne = Mom

bloodflart ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 12:32:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

that mid credits reveal is fucking NUTS what is gonna happen?!

drbhrb ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:43:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I bet he uses the time vortexes to go back to the battle of new York. There were set photos of antman with the cast in their old costumes

bloodflart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:27:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

damn yall are smarter than me

SBrooks1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:56:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly

inexcess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What time vortex?

drbhrb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:29:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's one of the things Janet tells him to watch out for right before he goes into the quantum realm during the post credits scene

inexcess ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:33:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did she say time vortex? I thought she was talking about those animals that almost swallowed up Pym when he went in to rescue Janet.

Mitraileuse ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:55:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She definitely said Time vortex.

inexcess ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did she? I thought she said tartigrade, as in:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade

Is there proof somewhere she said time vortex?

carolinemathildes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:15:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The proof is that everybody else but you heard her say it. She also said tardigrade (look cute but they'll eat you), but she said "time vortex, don't get caught because we won't be able to help you."

inexcess ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 14:22:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

lol I don't think you speak for everybody. You should take your tone down a notch.

carolinemathildes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe turn your hearing up a notch and actually listen to the dialogue instead of accusing the people who did pay attention of lying.

inexcess ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:05:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I asked for proof. I don't take random internet strangers at their word, especially ones like yourself with a stick up their ass.

Mitraileuse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:07:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She warned him of 3 things:
this Tardigrade things,time vortex,and a place which i can't recall it's name.

drbhrb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She mentioned those too

GusFringus ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:21:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't think the magic of the original could be captured, but Ant-Man and the Wasp was even more fun than the original! With excellent performances from all involved, especially Rudd, Pena, and Douglas, it's incredibly funny and also fun. The action sequences are super creative, especially the last act's car chase, featuring all sorts of cool ways to take down bad guys. The villains were pretty lame and the narrative was standard, but the creativity of the action scenes and excellent cast kept it light and fun. One of the best movies of the summer.

myusernamestaken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:00:17 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree man... I saw it with a girl who has never watched a Marvel film and I was super paranoid she'd be bored (my parents didn't like Black Panther and it was the first movie we had watched together for ages) but we loved every moment of it. A lot of people saying they were bored... I mean I get that it isn't high stakes but it was a laugh the whole way through :)

JoseElEntrenador ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:08:34 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As a disclaimer, I loved Ant Man (the first movie) a lot. But I was really disappointed by this movie.

The positive is I loved Peรฑa. The whole X-Con plot line was done spectacularly, and Luis (and the rest of the security business gang) were hilarious. I'm glad my favourite part of Ant Man came back.

Similarly, the whole "defective suit" bit was really well done. As was the "get big get tired" thing (which was laid out in an early scene and then became relevant towards the end).

Everything else didn't come close. The whole subatomic quantum thing didn't make sense. I have no problem with them not following science (Dr Strange is about wizards and I thought it was awesome). But from a story perspective they just made things up as they went along.

The mom having magic quantum powers and "evolving"? The ship being able to send signals to the surface, but then not? Putting an antenna on Scott? Being eaten by a protist? That whole part of the movie was a clusterfuck.

I also didn't like how the main conflict was basically sidestepped. The basic premise was Eva needed to kill Janet to survive. This is totally fine, and the building block for everyone's character motivation. And at the end they save Janet and... she magically fixes Eva. No build up, nothing. One second they essentially defeat Eva and the next a magical solution comes through that fixes everything.

There was alot a lot of moments characters just made dumb mistakes (the whole car chase scene, the FBI was incompetent, etc), but the above 2 (the quantum stuff and let-down climax) were the biggest.

I went in hot off Incredibles 2 (loved it), and really loved the first Ant Man, and as much as I want to, I just can't recommend this movie.

OPMajoradidas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Whos Julia?

There isnt a character named Julia

JoseElEntrenador ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What was the mom's name?

EDIT: oh Janet. Thanks for pointing it out. I knew it started with a J.

davinitupoverhere ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:28:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Completely agree. I thought the logic of Janet โ€œevolvingโ€ and being able to fix Ghost was completely ridiculous, and in general I thought the antagonists here were lackluster, and among the worst of any Marvel film. Also, I love Laurence Fishburne, and I love Goliath (Bill Foster) from the comics, but was super disappointed by his character in this.

whereismymind86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah...I assume they are setting up Janet to be...something bad, but I don't know what. I don't recall wasp ever being much more than just the wasp, the setup here implies something major going on to give her those powers, and as she says, its more than just adaptation so...dunno.

JoseElEntrenador ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:45 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I agree. They even resolved the other conflict (with the arms dealer) well. Them getting caught by X-Con and taking the blame all uses parts laid out previously (the truth serum was a big plot point, we learn X-Con's tech earlier when they try and sell to that major client, etc.)

By comparison the Ghost plotline was poorly handled. Which sucks because Ghost is objectively cooler than a dude with henchmen.

SpookingtonZ ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:13:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I personally disagree with the complaints against Janet healing Ghost.

Sheโ€™s been in the quantum realm for 30 years, throughout those years, Iโ€™m sure sheโ€™s come into contact with the healing particles mentioned and shown in the end credits scene. Itโ€™s likely that, like a Wasp, she is covered in healing particles, and the healing particle residue was enough to keep Ghostโ€™s powers at bay for the time being. It isnโ€™t magic or anything, itโ€™s the healing particles.

gamesrgreat ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:13:18 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah the whole premise was she had energy that Ghost wanted to steal to heal herself. The twist was that Janet could control that energy so there was no need to steal it

Yourponydied ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:10:44 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But how does she know how to utilize this? She's also been out of the field of science for 30 years. 30 years ago we were still analog yet still has a modern mastery?

Elgato01 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:27:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

im sure even then shield and pym had far more technology than we had then and even now

Citizen_Kong ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:47:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We don't know what she lived through in those 30 years. Part of her attire was definitely not with her when she got lost in the Quantum Realm. So my guess would be that somewhere in there is the world of Jarella) and that's where she spent most of her time and learned the ways of the force quantum.

GyantSpyder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:15:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the comics there are whole civilizations in the Microverse with their own science labs and YouTube DIY channels.

cinematichris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:20:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s likely that, like a Wasp, she is covered in healing particles, and the healing particle residue was enough to keep Ghostโ€™s powers at bay for the time being. It isnโ€™t magic or anything, itโ€™s the healing particles.

Um, are you saying that normal wasps are covered in quantum particles???

Owltie ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:25:37 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

After watching it, what I didn't like was how they advertised the movie. They basically put all the cool or surprising moments in the trailer, like size manipulation and funny/witty jokes. The only part where I genuinely laughed out loud was when Luis was hit with "truth serum" and blabbering about Scott and Hope, because I hadn't seen it before. I don't have to watch the trailers, I know. But considering how vague IW trailers were (they even faked hulk in Wakanda) I didn't think not to watch the trailers.

I'm assuming but I imagine Disney pushed for a more child friendly movie, considering how IW was a bit heavy with the content and dialogue, and that's fine, but I left the theater mostly disappointed because the acting was.. meh and the script wasn't very good.

ufailowell ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:03:45 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would say I don't think it was a good movie, but it was definitely an enjoyable one.

House arrest for Scott seemed weird. Same with Hank and Hope being on the run from the FBI. Maybe I missed something, but I just don't know why they would give Scott a plea deal when he didn't really have anything and why the FBI would go after Hank and Hope when they weren't knowingly doing super hero stuff afaik.

The cars shrinking should likely have gone slower too, but there's a whole lot of weird science stuff that doesn't make sense with these movies if you think about it too much.

I don't know why Bill had to be all sneaky about working with ghost.

All that said, it was a very fun movie visually, and the jokes were pretty good too. I like how the super villain is just a scared person trying to survive and not take over the world, and their fights against her were very interesting since it was hard for any of them to get a punch in. Underground crime villain really wasn't needed except to pad time IMO.

ramonycajones ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:22:40 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like how the super villain is just a scared person trying to survive and not take over the world

Unfortunately, she was a moron and was trying to steal from them something that they wanted to give her.

My problem with this movie was that the conflicts were completely forced. There was no reason why Ghost should've been their enemy. There was no reason why Hank and Hope should've been hunted by the FBI, as you said. There was no reason why Scott should've been worrying about this quantum shit two days before he was done with house arrest. They could've just waited for two days (before finding out about the silly 2 hour limit thing), and they could've been free to do whatever they wanted. And without being on the run from the FBI, I think they wouldn't have had to deal with the black market guy. There should've actually been no antagonists in this movie at all, the way it was written. So they had to resort to "Please, let me explain!"-and-then-the-girlfriend-storms-out levels of character conflict.

ufailowell ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:42:23 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think ghost's character is forgivable because of the whole life in peril thing. Don't hard disagree with anything else you said.

Clayh5 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:25:08 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I suppose the car speed is the same logic behind Scott being just as powerful whether he's ant-sized or human-sized. Though that doesn't change the fact that the wheels' circumference is what would really affect the speed, not the engine's power.

happycharm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:45:17 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the FBI just wanted them for their knowledge and tech.

I think Bill just wanted to keep Ghost safe since another organization can take her to be a spy like what shield apparently did.

ufailowell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:59:47 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But why would the FBI try arresting them instead of working with them? They're cutting edge scientists not criminals.

I meant Bill with Hank Pym. They could have just worked together the whole time.

happycharm ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:59:20 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank worked for SHIELD and had different interests. I dont see him as the type to be working for the FBI.

I think since they hated each other and couldnt work with each other to the point where Bill was either fired or left so they couldnt work together. Sad that two egotistic men couldnt get over the past which risked the lives of one's wife the the other's daughter figure.

ufailowell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:58:35 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think he even NEEDED to work with the FBI anyways. Can the government even do that? Either way us having to discuss the main tension of the movie seems to be a big missed point of the movie.

But Bill later tied him up to get his help anyways, so it seems like they still needed each other.

happycharm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:55:35 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I dont think he would want ti work for th FBI. He and Hope would still have wanted to build the machine to find his wife anyways and the FBI probably wouldnt want to sanction that. So the FBI would rather treat them as criminals and force them to work with them or go to jail (a common tv show trope).

Hank never needed Bill but Bill probably finally admitted that he needed Hank.

ufailowell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:16:03 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But they said they got in trouble because of Ant-Man in civil war so idk if that's it either.

happycharm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:38:18 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah man its a lie. Feds said they were in trouble because they invented the suit.thats bs. So if i run over someone with my car is it Hyundai's fault because they made the car? Nope. Feds just wanted the Pyms for their intelligence and tech. They would have threatened jail or working under them on government projects.

Dr_Abraham_Hunt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:13:33 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank worked for SHEILD before and quit because they tried replicating his tech for themselves and he also mentions that he doesn't want Tony Stark getting his hands on his tech so I don't think he would be very enthusiastic about working with the FBI.

blackgaylibertarian ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:28:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This was one of those movies where the general audience has a lot of fun and laughs a lot. However, there is a neckbeardy fanboy segment that hates all of the normies liking a light, enjoyable movie.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:35:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie was basically Paul Rudd and Friends: The Superhero Movie. Didnโ€™t try to outdo the sequel, but built in it. This one, unlike Ragnarok which was verbal humor, is a lot more situational. So if you enjoy that youโ€™ll love it.

Someguy2020 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ragnarok was a much better movie.

weaslebubble ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:56:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah. I really enjoyed Ragnarok. But the whole Asgard sub plot was kind of boring. This one was solid all the way through.

Eruanno ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:01:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In a way, I feel like this should perhaps be called โ€The Wasp and Hank Pym go do important things while Ant-Man is along for the ride, being a very good friend and a helpful dude that really just wants to ger home on time and not get in troubleโ€ (which may be a bit on the long side, admittedly) seeing as Hope and Hank are the ones with the main plot and Scott is kind of the subplot.

Riitchiie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:01:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Youโ€™re forgetting that Hank is the OG Ant-Man. Whoโ€™s to say that he isnโ€™t the title character? lol

Eruanno ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:18:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's true! Maybe the title refers to Hank and Janet more so than Scott and Hope.

Second alternate title: Ant-Men and The Wasps.

Bamres ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:40 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like 2 band names

carlo26 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:58:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely a truth serum.

bartdidit ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:28:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone else felt that they were really hinting to Cassie being a future super hero ? with the time travel and all she may or may not have something to do with Avengers 4.

Throwtendo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:20:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kind of started wondering if maybe they are setting up a โ€œyoung avengersโ€ situation and preparing to pass down the torch in the future.

Askray184 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Way down the line they can do young avengers, but probably not for at least 10+ years. Need Wanda and Vision to have kids too

DIA13OLICAL ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:27:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is this the first time that an after credits scene has been spoiled in the trailer?

AlertTheSPLC ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:58:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was it the ant playing drums?

If so, that was also in the movie. Unless it had the emergency broadcast "BEEEEEEEE" in the background.

whiskeybill ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:17:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was the drumming part actually in the movie? I remember ant in a tub and ant watching TV but I don't remember ant playing drums.

dewsh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The ant was playing the drums when Hank went to check to see if the FBI were at Scott's house. It was on a phone and shot from above the ant.

The shot they used in the trailer of the ant playing drums was directly from the end credits though so you're not wrong.

Bamres ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:09 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When hank says "what are you? Fifteen?" While viewing the ant on CCTV

AlertTheSPLC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes.

DIA13OLICAL ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:30:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When? I really don't think the drums being played by the ant happened until the after credits scene.

ezioaltair12 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:02:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When Hank is looking at the surveillance cams - the scene where he comments on Scott's routine

DIA13OLICAL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, okay. Not sure if this is better or worse now.

AlertTheSPLC ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 15:32:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

During the movie.

Wendigo15 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:27:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nope. Black Panther also. In the trailers/commercials u him in UN which was the mid credit scene

NeedsMoreZing ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:39:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haven't found any comments here about this yet, but did anyone else notice that in the scene where Hank and Janet were about to leave the quantum realm together, there was something that looked like a city in the background? It was even inside a bubble.

Ivanopolis ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:33:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't notice that, but it wouldn't surprise me if Marvel would at least hint at the Microverse.

words_words_words_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Teeny-Verse

DennisCherryPopper ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:17:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Antman and The Wasp will return?"

Ah the ol' Donkey Kong Countryroo

DH2007able ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:36:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That question mark slowly appearing got a gasp out of me, such mood whiplash at the end, even though I knew it was coming in some shape or form.

chasers110 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:25:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So was I seeing things... or did anyone else see that city in the Quantum Realm when Janet & Hank were escaping?

Yeshua1123 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:49:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That is totally what I thought I saw. Also, Janet Van Dyne's character was wearing a different outfit coming out of the quantum realm and it felt like she had been through some things. Like maybe there are beings living in the quantum realm.

SiLiZ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:15:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There are. In the comics it was referred to as the Micro-Verse. It's one part of the multiverse.

Rozace1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:53:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No itโ€™s a teenyverse (any rick and morty fans here?)

SiLiZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha!

JeffDenlon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:12:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like the Quantum Realm is going to be really important in Avengers 4. Maybe that is were all the heroes who died wound up.

mikeweasy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:41:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Someone else mentioned it.

Richandler ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:42:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm curious if Marvel films are going to continue the trend of no real villain or a sympathetic villain.

Bomber131313 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:42:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I honestly liked the 'no real villain' idea and that this was a low stakes plot. Not every film has to have the weight of millions of lives at stake.

I think this and Homecoming worked so well because they were low stakes personal movies.

Richandler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think it's mostly interesting based on how it mirrors the real world or whether or not it is a precursor or successor to the culture.

CrashB111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Having the villains not be "Mustache-twirling evil for the sake of it" cardboard cutouts is nice.

Especially because in cases like this it just kinda makes sense. Ghost isn't the way she is for kicks, and once her problem has been resolved she doesn't have to continue to act the way she did before. And they kinda set it up for her to show up in more movies, probably in an anti-hero role.

Fools_Requiem ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:02:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I half expected the snap to occur while Hank was in the Quantum relam after he finds his wife.

Stupid TV spots, "The ending will blow you away." Bullshit.

Bomber131313 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:05:52 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"The ending will blow you away." Bullshit.

Yah, I expected the snap to happen in front of Scott to lets say a much younger person. That might have warranted the..."The ending will blow you away.".

ghettovaquero ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:04:46 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I enjoyed the film. It felt more "family friendly" and though many may no appreciate that there are many that do. I like how they integrated his ex-wife and husband who had it out for him but now largely reconciled and ultimately Scott just wanted to be a good dad. I especially loved how self-aware Scott was about the baseball cap and sunglasses MCU disguise trope.

MotherlyTurtle ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:59:28 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Will Ant-Man develop powers because he is currently stuck in the quantum-verse for a long period of time? Janet Van Dyne's character was stuck there for a while and had to adapt/evolve due to the atmosphere. I wonder what they might be.....

AltoGobo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:17:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There have been set photos of Rudd in costume shooting Avengers 4.

I think Iโ€™d be funny if he just appeared out of nowhere during the climactic battle and says something like โ€œOh, it was a time warp!โ€

AbanoMex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:54 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

thanks for the spoiler for avengers 4 man.

TheHoundThatRides ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:52:49 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't expect Antman to be stuck there long enough for him to go through what Janet experienced.

edthomson92 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:35:57 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Goggins was great, but didn't anyone else think they could've just cut Sonny Burch out of the movie? He didn't add too much, but I would like to see him in Ant-Man 3, with more time given to him

haildecoysnail ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:12:44 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sonny Burch character should've been Justin Hammer. They could've casted Walton Goggins for a much better role in the future MCU films.

Ascarea ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 08:16:38 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm surprised people aren't making a bigger deal out of this, but man this movie was diverse. Two prominent characters were strong women (honestly I think Wasp was the lead role in this, not Ant-Man), and there were Latino-, Asian-, and African-American actors in good support roles.

JacobBlah ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:26:36 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, I don't think diversity in casting should be celebrated because that's the way the world actually is. Movie casts for the most part SHOULD be this way. You don't get orange slices for not going out of your way to make 95% of the population of any given movie white.

ThaneKyrell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:38:33 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's how part of the world actually is. Other than major cities in Western countries (and a few other countries), most of the world is not diverse at all, with most cities and towns in the world being mostly dominated by the majority ethnic group of the region the city or town is located. You can't make a movie set in Africa (with the exception of South Africa) and make a movie with a diverse cast (it has to be majority African), just like you can't make a movie set in Asia and have a cast full of Africans and Europeans.

jgtengineer68 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:58:32 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Incorrect That is how LA is, if they set this thing in Green Bay Wisconsin it would be different.

LevynX ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:32:47 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's better that way. I've turned around on the big celebrations and praising of diverse casts, but it's nice to see it go by unnoticed and have the movie not draw attention to it

Tidemand ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:46:18 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe they care more about the story than diversity. That being said, it was nice seeing a superhero movie with traditional villains and bad guys, as a change for all the huge and epic stuff in the other Marvel movies.

ufailowell ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:52:49 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think the villains were really traditional at all. Unless you're talking about a non super hero traditional villain, cause then you could say Walt Goggins' character was traditional, but I don't think he was ever supposed to be seen as a real villain.

Ghost and Laurence Fishburne's character were just trying to save her life, no world domination or anything similar.

Tidemand ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:28:58 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're talking about her motive. I was thinking more about a villain who lives amongst us and goes up against the protagonist on the streets and inside buildings, just like we could read in most superhero comics in the "old days". As opposed to a dozen different superheroes that goes against a dozen other superheroes, or gods fighting other gods and demons in other realms, and so on. They are all entertaining, but it's good to have some variation now and then. And if you have read a lot of superheroes comics growing up, you know that villains can have other reasons for their actions than just a wish to world domination or because they are evil.

GaryBettmanSucks ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:48:10 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fast and Furious franchise has been doing this for years

jaydock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:57 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cool.

seeingeyegod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:33:43 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

and of course some people were pissed that the Wasp was female even though she's always been female in the comic books.

Sharkey311 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:38:27 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No one was pissed about this

ramonycajones ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:26:34 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

(honestly I think Wasp was the lead role in this, not Ant-Man)

That is my major problem with both Ant Man movies. Ant Man himself has not been the lead character in any of the three movies he's been in. He's just a peripheral character, a hired goon doing work for the Pyms, who have actual backstories and motivations. It reminds me of why I disliked Final Fantasy 12, where the main character is also completely superfluous and just a background character in someone else's important story. They tried to give Ant Man some kind of urgency with the house arrest subplot, but that subplot was dumb and more of a mostly-ignored annoyance than a substantive plot point.

I think they could've been bolder and just made this movie The Wasp, and written Scott as the side character that he should've been based on the plot. They'd have to make Hope a more likable and interesting character to do so, which would also be good.

elendinel ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:59:18 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cause it's 2018 and people have been touting for diversity far too long to get excited just cause Disney's finally (slowly) getting itself there.

Don't get me wrong, happy they're doing it, but Disney's not exactly leading the charge on diversity in movies, so it wouldn't make sense for them to get praise for doing something even DCEU managed to do by its third movie.

beastboi27 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:16:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It wasn't as good as I thought it was going to be..I found it a little boring. The Ghost scenes were pretty cool to watch.

I can't believe that Antman was left in the quantum realm! How the hell is he going to escape?! Who is going to save him? I think that if he wasn't in the quantum realm, he would have turned to dust as well though.

ThatIowanGuy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:33:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So Janet said โ€œWatch our for time vortexes.โ€ Over the radio and there are leaked behind the scenes photos of Scott in the battle of New York for Avengers 4 so we can assume time travel of some sort.

coltsmetsfan614 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:55:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man, the Ant-Man movies have to be some of my favorite in the whole MCU. I love heist movies, and I love comedies, and they're such a great mash-up of the two. Plus, sometimes it's just fun to have superhero movies operate on a smaller scale (heh). Not every movie has to be about saving the city/world/universe, right?

evillemons ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:09:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thought it was a very funny movie, with good chemistry between the main cast, but with a pretty uninteresting plot and bland villains.

My biggest issue was that Ghost didn't seem to have much characterization/motivation. They do show her dad dying, and they do show her in pain. But after the cabin in the woods scene they don't ever mention her anger at Hank, and they focus on the pain aspect. She just doesn't get much dialogue after that, and just punches people for the rest of the movie.

It just seemed reasonable to me, that she/Laurence Fishburne would at least discuss/wait for Hank to his experiment.

Walton Goggins had a pretty generic villain role. Nothing much to say there.

A little too much exposition on science junk.

The mom having Quantum powers coming out her fingertips came off as EXTREMELY cheesy/eye-rolly. I get that they're setting up for something, but in my opinion it was done very sloppily.

Asian Jim was excellent, and so was Cassie. TI/Baba Yaga guy did a good job.

Paul Rudd and Michael Pena were good as always.

Overall 3/5. A good movie.

FosterTheMonster ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:21:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty positive the science junk will play a big role in Avengers 4 so they have to set that up well

mitchkramer ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 10:52:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's a low stakes, fun movie. After Infinity Wars, it's a nice change of pace.

If you are looking for all the plot holes or trying to figure out the science your thinking too hard.

It's a comic book movie, unplug your brain.

18092014 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:21:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed. It's nice to have theories and discussions but sometimes it's alright for fiction to be fiction.

photoshopper42 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:17:51 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fun movie, but was annoyed about the second post credit scene. I sat through all those credits and they essentially gave me a gag that I was already shown in the trailers...

fectic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:09:21 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah the second post credit scenes usually aren't worth staying long for. The jurassic park fallen kingdom one was kind of dull like this one.

SkywalterDBZ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:07:18 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's basically a scene that's in the movie itself too. We just see it from a different angle.

crazycatguy23 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:22:28 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loved seeing Wasp show off her stuff, but I felt like it was almost always at the expense of Lang looking like a bumbling idiot. While being offbeat, he was formidable and quite smart in Ant-Man and Civil War. Not sure why he had to be dumbed down and retconned in order for Wasp to shine but whatever...

tyderian ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:11:04 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's been bothering me too. He doesn't have to compare to the Pym-van Dyne family, Tony Stark, etc., but Scott has a master's degree in electrical engineering. He should have at least a very basic exposure to quantum physics.

Rad_Spencer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:10:23 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the bumbing stuff came from him being behind the other characters in terms of what was going on. A lot of the movie, Hope and Hank know what they're trying to do, where they can go, what they have to work with, and Scott is just reacting to it.

Once he know's what the hell is going on, or what the hell he needs to do, he's much more effective. Like how he kept sneaking back into his house, or when he mounts a rescue.

idunnomysex ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:59:11 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kinda liked it, and i kinda did not like it. Feels like it had some very wasted potential and the movie just ended up stumbling to much over it self, definetly some flaws with the script and the phasing of the movie. I lost track of all the times they lost the building, paul had to go back to the house, go here, go there, back and forward, made the movie feel very..i won't say confusing, but unnecessarily convoluted in a way. At the same time the constant re-use of the same locations made it feel a bit bland. I kept waiting for the movie to kick - off and give me that "okay, here we go"- feeling, it never really did.

A lot of the jokes did not land (a lot did as well), some felt forced and out off place. Luis voice - over for instance, was once again hilarious and amazingly done by both him and the other actors. But the execution and setting of it fell a little flat since they just shoe-horned it in the middle of the movie, and then jumped in and out of his story and kept the truth - serum joke going for way too long.

Ghost didn't have a enough time to shine, the actress did great and there was so much potential for a cool winter soldier - esq character here, she looked like a total bad ass, yet we only got a couple of fight scenes with her. Could have made her way more intimidating.

All in all the actors carried this movie so hard. Amazing chemistry between them, can't think of a single actor i had a problem with, just sad the scrip and directing wasn't as good as they deserved, this could've been the next Guardians of the galaxy.

Edit: just have to add that this one definetly suffered from the "Marvel humour" formula a bit. It wasn't as bad as the worst ones, as i personally found the some of the jokes pretty good anyway, but yeah there was a lot of bad quips / humour in dramatic situations here. That's what made Spider - Man so great, the humour felt on point and natural when it was there, yet it wasn't shoe horned in when the movie needed to be serious.

Kadexe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:07:30 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think Ghost really had enough depth to warrant more screen time. She was in an accident, she has painful superpowers, and she'll do anything to survive and get cured. That's a complete summary of her characterization.

This movie had a really interesting balance of humor and drama. Janet possessing Scott stood out as a really interesting intersection of a funny situation and a touching moment. I'd say this movie was precisely what I expected after the first Ant-Man.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:14:07 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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RyanSaysThings ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:21:20 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She was an assassin and/or spy trained by S.H.E.I.L.D.

EMPulseKC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:41 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wouldn't it have actually been Hydra doing the training instead of S.H.I.E.L.D.?

BLRNerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:40 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not everyone was evil in SHIELD, there was a chance probably but it was likely a non HYDRA program or else she'd maybe be activated for the baddies during the fall and Walton would've alluded to it.

Kadexe ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:37:04 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Miscellaneous thoughts on this movie:

  • This is pretty much exactly what you would expect from an Ant-Man sequel. The action was escalated a bit, but it's still more or less the same as the first movie. This isn't the Winter Soldier or Ragnarok of Ant-Man movies, but it's warm and entertaining nonetheless.

    • Villain is created by Hank Pym's past mistakes, but doesn't serve any purpose in the story except to be an obstacle.
    • Scott, Hope, and Hank Pym are still taking the bulk of the screen time and carrying the film with their performances. Scott's daughter also has a small role.
    • Luis is doing the same routine as before. The same joke isn't really as funny the second time, but seeing his perspective of the Scott/Hope relationship was a great moment.
    • The balance of humor, drama, and action is unchanged, but we skip most of the introductions and the training montage to get right to the juicy stuff.
  • Quantum physics are magic. There's really no attempt to be realistic here. They just make up the rules as they go, to maximise drama and visual flare. The whole "Finding Janet" subplot is riddled with nonsense. Ant-Man had suspect physics and logic in the first movie, but this is kind of getting out of hand.

  • I noticed that while shrinking, Hank passed through a barrier similar to the "mirror dimension" from Doctor Strange.

  • I see a lot of discussion about this movie in relation to Infinity War in this thread, but the Avengers are tenuously relevant to this movie until the post-credit scene. It's a very self-contained story, and the only important tie to the rest of the MCU is Scott's house arrest. The Pyms are also in hiding, but that's not a major change of the status quo for them since they were already conducting their research in secret. Their research is valuable and they have many enemies.

  • It's pretty amazing that the 1st post-credit scene is a massive plot twist and must-see sequel hook, while the 2nd post-credit scene is a complete waste of time. I'm getting the feeling Marvel doesn't want to put anything worthwhile in post-post-credits scenes anymore because hardly anyone sticks around in the theater that long.

JacP123 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:03:34 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There... there was a second post-credit scene?

Kadexe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:04:53 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You didn't miss anything really, it was just another scene of the ant playing on the drum set.

JacP123 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:10:39 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

OH RIGHT THAT ONE

Where the EBS is going off on the TV and theres panic and smoke outside? Honestly I completely forgot about that one, seeing as how many times we see Stewart Copel-ant playing on the drums.

svel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:05:16 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah, but think about that poor ant. It's been programmed to emulate Scott's behaviour, which it now has to do for the rest of it's life because noone is left to tell it to stop. The world has pretty much ended around it, but it still has to bang the drums and lounge on the sofa for about 8 hours a day.

keegandecker ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 19:52:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did anyone else like this more than Black Panther?

TL10 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:44:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think Black Panther wins by virtue of production value. The music, the costumes, set design &etc. are just too hard to top for a Marvel movie.

envynav ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought the special effects and action scenes were way better in Ant-Man and The Wasp. They are both good in different ways so I would consider them about equal.

inFINN1te ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:16:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely not. This one was good fun. But nothing more than that. This one had better CGI and arguably better character interactions(very arguable though). But Black Panther explored deeper themes and social issues. And also had a much better villain. All while handling a ton of worldbuilding that it's insulting anyone calls BP "a generic Marvel flick". No Marvel movie made an entire civilization feel so real and fleshed out like BP. Plus BP had an outstanding score. Ant-Man I only remember the main theme.

PKghost ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:02:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like in some ways Black Panther is objectively a better movie. However, I personally enjoyed Ant-Man and the Wasp more, I just had more fun with it.

Prax150 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:39:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Black Panther is a somewhat dumbed down good high quality movie. It's bogged down by unnecessary prerequisites for action and superhero-y type stuff, but manages to rise above most of it.

AM&TW is a top tier comedy with more than your average amount of action thrown in. It has a lot of plot holes and questionable choices but it's so goddamn funny and delightful that you can overlook most of its flaws.

In other words, AM&TW leans into its genre and knocks it out of the park. Black Panther tries to subvert its genre and while it mostly succeeds, I think it makes its flaws a little more glaring, even if they aren't as big as the ones in AM.

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:52:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd be cool if Marvel continued the trend with this year's line up.

They had a good superhero film at the start of the year that played with some gravitas.

They had an excellent one in the Spring which had real implications for the universe and had loads of emotion and awe-inspiring moments.

Then in the Summer they release a fun one to lighten the mood and dazzle us with cool effects.

Actually fuck it, I looked back and saw 2017 had 3 Marvel movies as well. I like the 3 movie line up much better than the 2, that way you get a varied experience each year.

gtsgunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:10:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really wished I found Ant-man and the wasp as funny as every one else seems to have. While it did totally have funny parts I found Thor ragnarok had better comedic timing and comedy over all. Maybe it's because I was looking for more than just an action flick that at the end of the day is just kind of forgettable. After all the big marvel movies that had long standing consequences in the MCU this movie comes a long and just felt like nothing really mattered by the end of it. Smaller scale and all.

Prax150 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like you can't please anyone these days. If what they were doing had world-altering events people would be complaining about how they're always saving the world and why didn't they call the other heroes, etc. Why can't they just have a small, self-contained story where the stakes aren't world-altering? Why can't it be character-driven and focus on the comedy instead of trying to make it the biggest movie possible?

gtsgunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think you can have those things but I think this movie fails at making you care about everything that's happening. If you are going to make a movie like that the char develoent and building has to be on point and the motivations have to be strong both internally and to the viewer. I personally feel they dropped the ball on what should be a strong hook with finding Janet. They also dropped the ball on the villians since they felt like they were being conflicting simply for the sake of the story. That becomes a problem because the fun movie becomes a boring going through the motions movie while having good action and special effects. If I just wanted that I'd go and watch transformers or some shit.

I personally like being invested in my characters and while they dont have to save the world I'd still would like to care a lot about their struggles. I felt a movie like spiderman homecoming did pretty well with this aspect.

The gist of this rant is that looking for a char the audience barely knows doesn't make for a good story in my book. If they had a ten minute preamble where they had pym try to get janet but failed and they switched bodies or something and we had to save pym from the quantum zone while learning about janet it would have made for a much better movie as we already know who pym is and we get to now learn about this new char in this movie. (It's a funny/silly idea but I hope it helps describe what I felt was missing)

_curious_one ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:37:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. I'm a much bigger Ant Man fan than BP tho.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:12:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not really. The cgi was better, but I prefer BP's willingness to challenge the audience with real social issues.

DirtySoap3D ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:15:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not every movie needs to do that though.

IAMA_LongHorse ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:18:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Most Marvel movies , actually most movies donโ€™t, so this comment makes zero sense.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:18:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed, I just found it refreshing in BP. I really enjoyed this movie but it wasn't too far from the typical cgi action flick.

[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 20:33:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeeeeeeesssssss your down votes only make me stronger!!

Swisskisses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:59:39 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Very different characters and styles so... I liked them both for very different reasons

reallifesexdoll ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:07:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I certainly did

Mental_Caregiver ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:14:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes actually, but that's probably from the initial rush of giddiness I got from watching this only an hour ago

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:30:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked The Great Wall more than Black Panther. And I'd probably watch The Great Showman 10 times before I even go near either of these mcu flicks.

wildwalrusaur ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 05:18:56 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is probably the first MCU movie since Ultron that I didn't walk out of super excited by.

It's not a bad movie. While often quite funny, overall it felt very flat. None of the characters had any meaningful development, we don't learn about it explore their relationships any more than the first film did, and (post-credit scene aside) all the pieces are in pretty much the same place on the board at the end as they were at the start.

It felt disposable in a way that none of the other MCU films have.

BenjaminTalam ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:31:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The biggest waste in the movie was Janet. She feels like nothing more than a plot point. The reunion in the quantum realm was laughable. All this set up and that hallucinatory intro just for her to pop up and go "ah yes hello it's me let's go".

qkxz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:46 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i mean literally everyone was on a timer for one reason or another for the majority of the movie

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:40:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The pieces are not in the same place. Janet is back and Hank is not egocentric anymore. I think this is more of a Hank character arc than a Scott and Hope movie

HunterXZelos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:27:15 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's an antman and the wasp movie, but it was actually about both pairs, not just the new pair. Hank got a lot of spotlight and I appreciated that.

acedelgado ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:16:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed. While not bad, it wasn't great. I think they just released it to be comic relief after Infinity War P1. Lots of funny moments and I don't regret seeing it, but I don't see myself watching it again. It was more of a "What was Ant Man doing during Infinity War? Oh, just living his life? Okay..."

Also a bit annoyed that the 2nd post credit scene was literally in the trailer. First scene was good, even though I called it immediately.

AgentElman ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:12:25 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the problem is that we never knew Janet. We had been told she was dead. So trying to save her didn't feel important.

wildwalrusaur ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:07:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

that, plus spending the whole movie building a machine to do the thing that Scott just did without any effort in the last film. It all felt very contrived, in a way that these films normally dont.

Zer0Fucks2Give ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:25:46 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The machine didn't just replicate Scott's shrinkage, it was designed to locate Janet in the quantum realm, then navigate it to retrieve her. Of course, physics down there operates differently, but most of what the machine was built for doesn't seem achievable with just the Ant-man suit.

neoshadow1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:55:38 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It didnt happen with no effort, it almost obliterated him. He basically got lucky the first time.

MARVEL4LYFE ยท 258 points ยท Posted at 12:49:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Most people here are talking about the post credits scene and just quoting lines from the movie. Probably because the movie itself is nothing to write home about but anyone expressing that is getting downvoted.

Randall Park was funny as Woo (although comic book fans should he upset that the MCU has decided to take a bad ass character and turn him into a joke. Classic Marvel). Lilly had the most to do and she's very likeable so that's a wise move. The father-daughter dynamic between Hank/Hope and Scott/Cassie was nice. Paul Rudd.

Those are the only positives I can think of. The amount of exposition dumps in this film rivals Guardians of the Galaxy 2. And they use the tiresome strategy of splicing in some forced humour so it doesn't get too boring or obvious. The Prologue was needless and an anti climactic way to begin the film. The amount of times this movie came to a halt to deliver some shitty exposition was frustrating. They completely ignore the "show don't tell" rule, just like every other MCU movie. But I guess people are okay with it because of the jokes and it's super FUN! All of these films literally spell out what's happening to the viewer and it's lazy.

Then you get to the story itself. What the Fuck was the point of Walton Goggins? His character was pointless. He seemed shoved in because they needed more story. He was just a lame, inconsequential character who didn't contribute anything of value in the jokes department as well. Ghost was a shit villain, though I like Hannah John-Kamen. The reason she was shit is because they decided, for some reason, to develop a c-story with Goggins instead of developing what could have been a way more compelling villain. Janet comes back and I don't even give a shit. She's literally the whole point of the film, but the movie spends so much time focusing on other shit outside of the main narrative that I just don't give a shit about the woman they are all fighting for. Scott, who was a competent character in the first movie, gets the Thor treatment. "I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THIS CHARACTER SO I'M GOING TO MAKE HIM FUNNY! Because the Marvel universe needs more quip machines. Scott is a bumbling child in this, doing stupid shit at every turn. Why should I root for him? The only reason is his daughter and the way he treats her. Nothing to do with him as Ant Man.

I'm getting tired of Marvel humour. It's fucking terrible on a second viewing because all it is is quips, awkward exchanges, or a character talking really fast with a straight face. Every character in this universe is just Tony Stark lite and there's no fucking variety. This is a universe for crying out loud but it feels fucking tiny when every character has the same goddamn personality and every film ties into the next. It's no wonder the only thoughts people can muster in this thread are to do with the mid credits scene, because they were momentarily reminded of the only movie in this universe that did something slightly different.

Also, why are people okay with how visually bland this movie is. Or most of these Marvel movies? Comic books are a visual medium and so is film. Why the fuck is it okay that they are continuing to deliver bland cinematography. I guess when a movie is FUN all is forgiven.

EDIT: Thanks for the gold.

Also, apparently since I'm a mod for /r/FuckMarvel , my opinion is entirely invalid and I'm "trolling". I joined that sub upon being asked because It's close to impossible to voice a negative opinion about these movies on this sub without being drowned in downvotes and personally attacked by people who can't comprehend that some people don't like these movies. I'm not a troll, DC fanboy or any other dismissive label you want to slap onto people who don't like these films. I haven't liked many MCU movies apart from GOTG, Spider-Man: Homecoming, Winter Soldier and Ragnarok to an extent. My favourite comic book movie of all time is Spider-Man 2. I've read Marvel comics for as long as I can remember but I just simply don't like this universe. Voicing that opinion shouldn't have to be so hard. This is a discussion thread.

[deleted] ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 13:24:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with you to some extent on all points but to a lesser degree.

First: I totally agree about Goggins. Unnecessary character and I think more time with Ghost would have been better served by replacing him.

As far as the "as long as it's fun"... well... yeah kind of. Movies don't all have to be these artsy masterpieces. This wasn't supposed to be Silence of the Lambs. It's Ant-Man.

I do agree the Marvel formula is sometimes a little overboard on its quipiness... I disagree that every character is somehow Tony Stark? The one character you could actually say that for is Dr. Strange, but otherwise no character is anywhere close to Stark in terms of personality.

Chef_Bojan3 ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 15:42:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To some people, anyone that makes jokes is basically Tony Stark.

Tony is somewhat similar to Doctor Strange (egotistical, sarcastic, although Tony is a little more rapid-fire and light on his feet with the quips). Thor is now kinda this noble meathead bro in his humor (I think really influenced by Hemsworth's natural comedic charisma more than something they wanted from the beginning). Captain America is nothing like Tony even though he occasionally throws in a few quips but he's very straitlaced. Banner is more of a bewildered and barely keeping up with the craziness of the world type of character, Rocket Raccoon is sarcastic but has a mischievous side that Tony doesn't, Lang is way too good-natured to be compared to Tony's style of humor, and Starlord is over the top with his childishness and immaturity which we don't really see in any other character.

I can understand people who don't like every character to be funny (although personally I think it works well for the superhero genre) but to call every character Tony Stark-lite is a really lazy and inaccurate way of framing that argument. It's actually pretty impressive that Marvel made so many distinct ways of delivering humor considering how many characters they make funny.

[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 15:49:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think you said this well here. To bounce off your styles of hunmor a little more: Drax is funny because he is clueless when is comes to social norms. Thor can socially interact with people but is completely clueless when it comes to cultural norms (he's essentially Wonder Woman, in a way).

Chef_Bojan3 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:55:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Smart distinction. Yeah, I don't have a problem with people saying how they don't like every character is funny but they should give Marvel credit for doing at least a passable job of crafting distinct humor styles instead of just saying everyone is a Stark clone.

devw94 ยท 122 points ยท Posted at 13:54:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Look I wonโ€™t bash you for an opinion even though I disagree but I have to ask: why are you still watching movies from the MCU? Itโ€™s 20 movies in now and clearly their style isnโ€™t to your liking, so why not just move on?

Also the reason the post credits scene is being talked about more than the film itself is likely because itโ€™s the last thing audiences saw and it changed the movie from a low stakes comedy to instant dread. Iโ€™d be surprised if people werenโ€™t talking about it.

MARVEL4LYFE ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 13:58:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

why are you still watching movies from the MCU?

Honestly, because it's a great way to catch up with friends. I have a few seperate groups of friends who always invite me out to watch the Marvel movies with them and I say yes. It's more about spending time with them and less about the movie.

I'm seeing it again tomorrow with another group of friends who I haven't caught up with since we saw Infinity War together.

UnholyDemigod ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:03:54 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How is it a great way to catch up with friends? You sit in the dark for 2 hours not talking to each other

XerLordAndMaster ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 17:19:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man, if I went to the movies with a friend who knew they hated the movie I'd be sort of annoyed to just hear the bitching about it afterward.

MARVEL4LYFE ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 17:37:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't bitch about it with my friends for that exact reason. I actually normally tell them I enjoyed it because I don't want to bring the vibe down.

Bamres ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:45:34 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah tbh I would have skipped this movie in theatres if my friends didn't wanna do a half price movie/winhs night.

TheMexican_skynet ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 18:43:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do you criticize the movie in front of your friends?

That's gotta be a masochist relationship, but to each their own lmao, BUT I do agree in some stuff you said. Your opinion is 100% valid.

MARVEL4LYFE ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 19:00:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do you criticize the movie in front of your friends?

Definitely not. I just save my ramblings for the internet.

Deeznutssack ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 15:56:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with you about the bland cinematography, although itโ€™s gotten slightly better over the last couple of films. The humor is something I love about these films. I mean I agree, the humor at times is a bit much. I STRONGLY disagree with about the characters having the same personality. From the first Iron Man, it was established that Tony Stark is snarky wise ass. Captain America was always been the Boy Scout. Scott Lang is an every day man who really has not business being a superhero. From the moment they were introduced on screen, each character has been true to who they are regardless of the arc they were given. Humor and quips donโ€™t necessarily mean each characters are the same, itโ€™s more reactionary. I think regardless the films quality, character building has been the MCU biggest strength, which is why the films are so popular.

TheMexican_skynet ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:42:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott Lang is very heroic. He shouldn't be there, fanboys when meeting cap and is willing to sacrifice his own interests for others. That's kinda cute.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:42:48 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They hated jesus because he told them the truth.

beautifur_panda ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:37:07 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hell yea dude Spider-Man 2 is for sure the greatest superhero movie of all time imo.

Anyway just chiming in to say your opinion is absolutely valid and I agree with like all of your points. I still however enjoyed the film, because like you said, it was fun. It helps a lot when that's all you're expecting going in, and it's $5 Tuesdays. I *do* think you're getting a little too worked up over how average this movie is though, as if everyone else enjoying it is a personal affront to you. Other people enjoying it should not detract from you not enjoying it, and I don't think you should shame people for having a good time with it.

But man, let me reiterate, your favorite Marvel movies line up pretty well with my favorites. People get so confused when I tell them Spider-Man 2 is one of the greats, but god damn they just don't get it.

[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 13:27:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You took the words right out of my mouth. As much as I have a problem with so many aspects of this film, your last point cannot be understated.

This is one of the most visually boring films I've ever seen, especially in terms of the environment. How people can even attemp yo excuse Walter Goggins' cartoon character of a villain straight out of Looney Tunes and Ghost who has no character arc or development is simply beyond me.

I know MCU-heads are a bit blind when it comes to villains, but I thought it being this bad were surely kick them out of their hivemind thinking. People want to make fun of DC for films like Suicide Squad, but how was this movie any better?

Annnddd your point about these Tony Stark-lite characters, I could go on and on. Phase 4 cant come soon enough as Fiege promised some more original flicks.

MarvelousShoes ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:24:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I disagree with most of this but I respect your opinion

wabojabo ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:20:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a huge MCU fan but I can see where you are coming from and I agree with some of the points you've made. I respect your opinion, it's what I'm saying. After all, these are just movies.

Leo_TheLurker ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:21:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You know what, you're comment got me thinking. I already gave my mini review on here and I liked the movie but there were things about it I did not like.

Overall, I felt emptyish with this movie. Like in hindsight, I'd relate it to Iron Man 2. It had a lot of nothing in it in the sense that the character's actions never really move the movie forward or at least theres pauses and then it jumps their story forward all of a sudden. Many scenes were just for fun instead of having more purpose which I don't have a problem with but get if someone else does.

When it comes to villains, I liked Ghost. Her powers were cool and her motivation made sense. She was dying but she needed Pym's science to help her survive.

Goggins on the other hand I completely agree was pointless! Take him out of the movie and you'd pretty much have the same thing. The only reason hes in the movie is to tease some guy pulling strings behind the scene whose probably his supplier or something.

Oh and I completely agree with Scott's change in character so dumb. He was smart but goofy in the first one. His main shtick wasn't being useless in the first one, he did stuff! In this one he was the butt of a lot of jokes and that wasn't cool. The fact he never really had control over the suit sucked! It was really for comedic effect, but it wasn't fair. They should've fixed it halfway through that way, he could do some badass shit.

Overall, I had gripes with this movie, but at the same time, I did like it. It all somehow worked out to me, like it didn't make the movie suck but I'll admit I was a lil diappointed how the movie was the way it was.

dadmou5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:50:21 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree about the exposition bit. The whole opening sequence was unnecessary. I get that it's for people who haven't watched the previous movie(s) but there has to be a point where movie makers stopped pandering to those people and if someone decided to just waltz into the billionth movie in a series without seeing the previous one(s) then that's on them.

Even the exposition where Park's character explains why Rudd's character is under house arrest to the latter's daughter was so incredibly lazy and they had the gall to play it as a joke. That whole explanation could have been peppered throughout the movie considering how often his house arrest comes up but they had to dump it all in one scene.

That aside, so much of the science fiction elements in the movie were also incredibly lazy. The scene in the end with Michelle Pfeiffer's character healing Ghost was by far the laziest, no-fucks-given thing to happen in this movie universe so far. Didn't even bother to address what just happened.

Those glaring issues aside, I generally had fun with the movie. I even thought it was better than the original, which, looking back, I wouldn't really wanna watch again. This one was definitely lazier, though.

Seesyounaked ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:56:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You sound like you're upset the movie doesn't fit your specific formula of how movies should be enjoyed.

This has a style, tempo, and sense of humor a lot of people find pretty good. Just because it doesn't suit you doesn't mean you're some kind of persecuted film critic, it just means you're being a bit pretentious and you need some humility when it comes to what you like vs. what others like.

Flyllow ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:11:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Capeshit is all garbage.

HeIsTheSisko ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:02:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just turn your brain off! :)

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:09:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't understand why these shallow, empty movies keeps getting rated fresh.

music2169 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:53:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I canโ€™t thank you enough for this comment. I knew coming into this thread that everyone would be AS USUAL posting โ€œfunny quotesโ€ from the movie and just talking about the ending scene. Such an average movie.

zacky765 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:09:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I donโ€™t consider Scott Lang, Hank Pym nor Hope Van Dyne to be Tony Stark Lite.

Scottโ€™s character didnโ€™t just suddenly turn to a โ€œquip machineโ€. If you watched the first movie youโ€™ll see he cracks a few jokes, doesnโ€™t take everything seriously but being a good father to Cassie, or his idea of one, is his priority.

Also, itโ€™s the MCU, dude, itโ€™s been exactly like that for what? 20 movies by now? Movies that the general audience and most comic book fans love and follow almost religiously. Being just โ€œfunโ€ doesnโ€™t achieve that.

Iโ€™m sorry you donโ€™t like it, but itโ€™s just not your cup of tea, no need to bash incessantly on the movie. Constructive criticism with ways to improve are good, which your post is not.

snappyk9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:41:21 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree on a lot of your points. I still enjoyed the movie but this has been the most mediocre film in the franchise in recent years

onephatkatt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:13:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think what would have helped Goggin's character is one small scene with "the people he works for". Maybe threatening him or his family (Just like his character in Tomb Raider, which Hannah John-Kamen was also in). Some of the humor in this film worked well, pint sized Ant-Man was hilarious. The family connections I think help also. I just tried to not overthink this movie, just sat back and enjoyed the ride.

SpacePistachio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:31:17 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I fully agree with you, I barely remember anything from this movie.

here_for_news1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:26:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude Amen to that

BadAtAlotOfThings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:05 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude I just got into an argument about the whole "everyone is bootleg stark" trope. Some people truly believe that having all of your characters act like another equates to good writing

Read_books_1984 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:36:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Im one of the people who downvoted you and wanted to give you a more lengthy reply.

I liked Woo too, and im not sure why people should be upset hes not a badass.

The exposition dumps i understand the issue there, i just dont think it really affects the movie. I had to think about them to recall them, they dont stick out to me, so for me personally i didnt find them so blatant or tedious.

I dont know why youre so upset by the prologue. I didnt mind it bc i didnt know what the movie was about other than ant man so i felt it set the stage.

The splicing in of jokes, as you put it, i find to be realistic because people do it in real life. Thats how people act. Idk what to say other than that.

People like marvel movies for multiple reasons, and you dont even seem to try and understand why. I like the silliness in the ant man movies because as an every day dude and dad, it helps me connect to paul rudds character more, not because i like a laugh. Honestly, a lot of your gripes sound like they come from someone who thinks movies are art and shouldnt appeal to the masses.

Your post is rather long, so ill just say this: ghost shouldnt be seen as a villian, thats why the character seems like a bad villian to you. The colors in the quantum realm are unfuckingbelievable, loved it! I never once forgot what they were trying to accomplish in rescuing janet, so when the moment came i enjoyed it thoroughly. I thought the lack of a villain fits well with the mood of the movie and what ant man and the wasp are trying to do.

If you cant distinguish between the characters thats on you. Having watched the marvel movies multiple, multiple times, i strongly disagree about how the character development. I think youre saying this without having actually examined the characters in depth.

GymLeaderBlue ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:09:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol announcing you're downboating.

Back to shill hell with u

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:18:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Youโ€™re a very recognizable name around people talking about marvel and all you ever do is shit talk the mcu...lmao donโ€™t play yourself off as some martyr. Every comment of yours is some anti mcu or anti Disney stance.

MARVEL4LYFE ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:57:11 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Every comment of yours is some anti mcu or anti Disney stance

Aside from that not being true, why should that matter? How does that discredit what I said?

There are people who comment nothing but positivity about these movies (because they are fans), so what's wrong with me commenting about what I dislike? I actually wrote about some of the positives of the movie as well and with the negative, I gave my reasons. My comment goes into more detail than most comments in this thread but people like you are getting upset because it's negative.

tj0252 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:44:28 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The films generic trash, like the rest of Phase 3. Stop crying.

TruYu96 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:51:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So butthurt

tj0252 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Im just annoyed at how shite the most of the phase 3 films are. After Avengers 4, the sad thing is literally all of the films will be like this.

mytoeshurt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:02:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can you say a movie you enjoy? Curious

mcugettingstale ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:46:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You also got gilded wow congrats. Not surprised this is in controversial category. Sheeps been brainwashed.

Read_books_1984 ยท -29 points ยท Posted at 12:53:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man people are so miserable sometimes lol. I thought it was great!

Jkbdm ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 13:00:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Heโ€™s a miserable person for giving a bad review on antman and the mcu?

MARVEL4LYFE ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 13:06:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently anyone who dislikes mainstream, Marvel blockbusters and comes into a discussion thread to contribute their negative opinion is miserable.

AllIWillSayIs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:38 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Doesn't seem healthy to give time and energy towards a negative action.

Fishofthetunavariety ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:46 on August 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, no one has every created anything of merit from being sad or angry. Writers, musicians and comedians all shit rainbows from what I've heard. /s

AllIWillSayIs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:37:37 on August 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You mention emotions but I stated negative actions.

I don't disagree with you, those emotions are powerful and definitely promote creativity in an individual.

A sub where one spends time actively just spreading hate sounds very lame to me.

You do not see a difference?

Read_books_1984 ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 18:15:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hes a mod for a sub devoted to hating marvel. Thats why.

inexcess ยท -21 points ยท Posted at 17:03:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No he just sounds like a miserable person by the tone of his comment.

MARVEL4LYFE ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 13:01:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why is that a common rebuttal to people who go into depth about why they disliked a marvel movie? Want to try expressing why you thought it was great?

Your comment is literally just "lol I thought it was great" and it's upvoted while comments in this thread that go into depth about why they dislike it are dismissed. Great discussion.

[deleted] ยท -26 points ยท Posted at 13:29:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe don't mod a hate-sub for the topic you're talking about, and we won't think you're being a scummy little troll.

MARVEL4LYFE ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 13:55:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was invited to mod a sub and accepted. I liked the idea of a place where we could discuss the negative aspects of the movie without being drowned in downvotes. And I liked the idea of doing it in a sub with like-minded people because the tribalism in the main subs is tiring.

Modding that sub doesn't make me a troll. My comment delved into both the positive and the negative but all I'm getting in response is bitterness from people who can't fathom anyone disliking this movie.

danbitmanholograf ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 13:47:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

and we won't think you're being a scummy little troll.

Or maybe you should grow up and attack the argument and not the person, troll

Read_books_1984 ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 18:15:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You mod for a sub that hates marvel. Im not discussing the movie further bc you wont argue in good faith. Not hard to figure out. If you cant figure out whats so amazing about marvel movies i cant help you man.

Silver013 ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 12:59:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œI donโ€™t care about the movie. Anyway, hereโ€™s my twenty point essay expressing how much I donโ€™t care.โ€

MARVEL4LYFE ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 13:02:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Where did I say I don't care? I guess it's easier to dismiss people who disagree with you rather than actually respond to their points. Fair enough.

Silver013 ยท -26 points ยท Posted at 13:27:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True you didnโ€™t say that. I just donโ€™t see why someone would put the time to type a wall of text about something they didnโ€™t care for. Shit, I barely want to do that about stuff I do like.

MARVEL4LYFE ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 13:49:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That wall of text is only like 600 words and took me about 10 minutes to write. It didn't take much time out of my day at all

GoMakeYourBed ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 13:49:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We're in a movie discussion thread.... What else are they supposed to do here? Go bowling?

Bamres ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:18:24 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cousin?

Read_books_1984 ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 18:15:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dudes a mode for a marvel hate sub. Downvote and move on.

[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 13:21:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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KalBaratheon ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 14:19:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

r/movies is dedicated to hating on the DCEU so I see no problem with there being a sub for voicing negative opinions about the MCU without being downvoted to oblivion. His comment was pretty well thought out. He didn't just come in here and say "lol this movie sucks".

MARVEL4LYFE ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 13:32:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You want to know why I am? Because there's no place to discuss the negative aspects of the MCU without having your opinion drowned in downvotes by the majority. Look at this thread. I presented a pretty detailed comment about the film, but because it's negative, people are resorting to ad hominem bullshit to invalidate my comment. It's lazy and immature.

Why the fuck are comic book movie fans, both DC and Marvel, so incapable of understanding that there are valid reasons to dislike their movies? The defense is always "Oh, this guys is a hater" or "This guy is a DC/Marvel fanboy" but there are plenty of people who dislike these movies for reasons that have nothing to do with petty fanboy bullshit. /r/fuckmarvel is a sub for that type of discussion. Being a part of that sub doesn't invalidate the points I raised about the film but nice try.

[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 14:30:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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MARVEL4LYFE ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:40:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I loved that idea when they started it last year for GOTG 2. But it's like those "controversial opinion" threads on askreddit, where the top comments aren't actually controversial but it's just people circlejerking over popular opinions under the guise of controversy.

It's the same thing with those nitpick threads. It's an awesome idea but I still feel like genuine dislike for the films would not go over well over there which is fair enough. It's a subreddit for fans of the MCU so I'm not going to barge in and say "Lol I hate your movies". That's just a dick move. That's why I like the idea of /r/FuckMarvel, because we're off in our own little corner away from the fans. We're still finding our footing as a sub and I'd love for some meaningful discussion going forward, but we don't have the numbers yet.

GeorgoLovesMarvel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:14:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes on the unpopular opinion threads. The top comments are kinda like

Idk why people didn't like black panther, I thought it was pretty good

Duh

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:56:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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MARVEL4LYFE ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:09:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's funny. You feel sorry for me but you're the one who's is genuinely upset at my dislike for Marvel movies. I love that you're calling me a "manchild" when you're the one who can't handle a differing opinion to save your life. You went through my post history just so you could invalidate my opinion.

I honestly feel sorry for you.

Pragmatic_Shill ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:28:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He called you a manchild because he couldn't handle that you disliked a comic book movie.

Just let that sink in.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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MARVEL4LYFE ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:31:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, I'm bitter that expressing my dislike for Marvel movies garners such a hostile response. I don't have a hate-obseesion with Marvel. I have a great dislike for the shit quality of discussion on this sub in relation to the negative aspects of the MCU. Stop oversimplifying everything and being dismissive of an opinion that you can't comprehend.

You're free to enjoy the movies. I don't care.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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MARVEL4LYFE ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:52:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

fanboy brigade

Again, what brigade? What are you on about? Just because people disagree with you that doesn't mean they're out to get you. There's no brigade. Your constant mentioning of a brigade shows that you're the one who gives a shit about "imaginary internet points".

You literally mod a sub called r/FuckMarvel

Nice argument. I've addressed it countless times in this thread but really nice argument.

inexcess ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 13:25:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha I knew it. He's going out of his way to shit on the whole MCU. He needs to get a life.

joris_eli ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 14:09:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think whoever went into his post history to find out heโ€™s a mod in that sub needs to get more of a life.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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MARVEL4LYFE ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:32:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who could possibly be brigading this thread? It isn't cross posted anywhere. Word of advice - stop dismissing everybody who disagrees with you as a troll and insulting them.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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MARVEL4LYFE ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:55:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

...my post is being heavily downvoted. Sort this thread by controversial and see for yourself.

There's no brigade. What a delusional response to a few downvotes.

lovedetroit ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 20:40:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do you really want more karma and gold? I mean, you are coming off really hard to engage when you are upset.

[deleted] ยท -33 points ยท Posted at 13:29:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're a mod on /r/FuckMarvel.

So frankly, your concern-trolling review can gargle cum.

Show_Me_Dick ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 17:48:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"You're only allowed to have opinions on marvel if you suck their movies cocks 24/7"

AllIWillSayIs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mature.

Tarrock ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 17:51:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

worth noting that this user browses r/politics religiously. When you can't make a valid argument, attack their post history. r/politics rule number 1.

MARVEL4LYFE ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 13:36:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How on earth does that invalidate anything I wrote? I'm not trolling for disliking a movie. In fact, I thought my review was fairly balanced. I didn't just shit on the movie all the way through.

I'm on that sub because it's impossible to voice a negative opinion about these movies here without having to deal with people who suck at handling a different opinion and resorting to personal attacks.

inexcess ยท -28 points ยท Posted at 13:57:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You went on a tirade about the MCU as a whole. It's obvious you have an axe to grind. Your message is tainted. Btw people in r/marvelstudios criticize the movies and shows, and have arguments and discussions about that. You obviously go way beyond that. You're toxic.

MARVEL4LYFE ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 14:06:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

tirade

You know what that word means right? My comment wasn't a tirade. I wasn't angry. I literally just expressed my opinion and backed it up, but because that opinion isn't to your liking, you're hell bent on invalidating it.

inexcess ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 16:57:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol you use multiple expletives and all caps at different points. Nobody reviews movies like that. The tone is obviously angry in nature. It's an obvious angry anti-Marvel rant. Your "review" is the definition of a tirade.

MARVEL4LYFE ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:40:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's nothing obvious about it seeing as you're wrong. The caps and expletives are for emphasis.

inexcess ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:01:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

All the evidence says otherwise.

SilverMars ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:15:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
inexcess ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:17:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't like people who come in with a rant under the guise of a review, and then try to deny it. I'm not hiding it.

SilverMars ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:20:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He expressed his opinion with backing from the movie and expanded on what he didn't like + why. It was an objectively more thorough and expansive review than any of the top comments here tbh

JonRedcorn862 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:55:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Your tone is extremely problematic.

inexcess ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 07:21:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're right I wasn't harsh enough...FUCK that guy he's a douchebag.

joris_eli ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 14:08:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He actually explained himself quite well though, unlike everyone saying his opinion isnโ€™t valid.

MARVEL4LYFE ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 14:18:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks. Funnily enough, that's pretty much why I mod on that subreddit. The amount of times I'd see users write a comment that was critical of the MCU only to be dismissed, belittled, downvoted...it was frustrating.

It doesn't matter how well I validated my opinion because it goes against the popular opinion. That's why I like the idea of a sub like /r/FuckMarvel where like-minded people can discuss why they dislike these movies without being blasted for it.

Chef_Bojan3 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:33:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ehh, while /r/movies is a circlejerk and echo chamber in one direction, going to a place like FuckMarvel is just going into a circlejerk/echo chamber in a different direction because almost no one with positive feelings about Marvel are gonna go there to discuss the movie.

mcugettingstale ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:49:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is there a better solution if you really want to discuss & criticise their movies but want to avoid harassment and getting downvoted to an abyss?

Chef_Bojan3 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean you're just replacing one biased place with another one that fits your preferences. And as biased as /r/movies is, I imagine you'd get at least a few more people willing to engage in fairer discussion than a place like /r/fuckmarvel. In fact even in this thread there were harassers but also people who disagreed but allowed that he presented his point fairly. Also there's a fair amount of real discussion on /r/marvel with criticism of the movies.

MARVEL4LYFE ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:45:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Keeping the discussions fair is something we've spoken about a lot. We'll see how it goes but I'm confident.

I get where you're coming from, but /u/mcugettingstale is spot on about what we want the sub to be. Harassment of any kind isn't going to be tolerated.

eylenn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:38 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I gotta say that, I have a hard time taking the that sub seriously when these are some of the rules.

6 . Fuck the MCU Anyone who thinks these movies are funny or creative in any important way deserves to be laughed out of here.

7 . Go Watch a Real '70s Political Thriller Seriously, if you think there's anything worthwhile in this fucking disgustingly bland cinematic universe, you need to broaden your horizons. Try watching a movie that's actually good before you spend the rest of your life LOLing at jokes that wouldn't make the cut on a third rate Cracked.com writer's twitter feed.

and after looking at the posts in the subreddit, for the most part it has been "LOL who else thinks the marvel movies are stupid."

mcugettingstale ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:16:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

r/fuckmarvel is just a safe place for voicing genuine marvel criticism. No harassment to anybody will happen there, be it of any side. I don't see any problem

JonRedcorn862 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:53:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So it's the only place they can discuss the movies in a critical tone, is that a problem? You keep repeating yourself like you are saying something. What's your fucking point?

Chef_Bojan3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm just saying they're probably attracting a crowd that is equally not open to diverse opinions with that sub name but I will acknowledge I could be wrong. Sorry

danbitmanholograf ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 13:46:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's one of the most fanboy comments I've ever seen. At least attack his arguments you child.

[deleted] ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 13:55:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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MARVEL4LYFE ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 14:04:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because I accepted an invitation to moderate a sub, my opinion is invalid? Jesus. My initial comment isn't even trolling. It's a legitimate comment that actually conveys what I liked and disliked about the movie but because I'm a mod on a sub you don't like I'll go fuck myself. Got it.

dbrreddits ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 14:40:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You sound way less miserable than this guy wants, I wish you would at least try for him. Itโ€™s the least you could do to make up for having a different opinion.

[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 14:25:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 13:55:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"This guy who dedicates much of his time online to hating Marvel is definitely acting in good faith."

  • A fucking moron.
MARVEL4LYFE ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 14:01:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nope. Much of my time online is not dedicated to hating on Marvel.

Sir_Grox ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 06:05:28 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

7/10 trolling, youโ€™re actually pretty good, unlike most trolls nowadays.

That linked subreddit is a cringefest tho lmao

inexcess ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 13:23:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh it's another one of the "all marvel movies are the same" people. Visually bland how? You know they have animated comic movies too? Maybe that's more your style. I don't know how you can say visually this is comparable to Guadians, Thor, Dr Strange, or Infinity War, for example.

Also lighter is better. It makes the serious characters stand out more. I'd rather have more guys quipping than more emo guys dragging the mood down. It also helps the serious characters stand out. Even Tony was more serious in Civil War and Infinity War.

Also, Infinity War was pretty heavy they needed to bring the mood up again with this.

kdawgnmann ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:06:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Infinity War was pretty heavy they needed to bring the mood up again with this

They don't though. I have no problem with the lighter tone of the Ant-Man movies, but they shouldn't need to make a "fun" movie to balance out a "dark" one. 5 years from now, when someone is going to pop in a Marvel movie to rewatch, they won't be thinking "I love how this one contrasted with Infinity War when it came out". They'll judge it and enjoy it based on its own merits.

IMO Infinity War had plenty of humor itself to balance out any dark scenes. You don't need a whole movie of comedy solely to balance out Infinity War's ending.

BatemaninAccounting ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 19:13:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the issue is that 99% of marvel fans enjoy most of the movies in the MCU. Every fan can find things we do not like, and a lot of things we do like. If you're the mod for /fuckmarvel that heavily implies you are a troll, because a normal fan person doesn't join a sub like that or even think of becoming moderator for such a place. Every fan accepts legitimate criticism, but shouldn't tolerate bullshit reasoning.

[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 06:06:03 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not downvoting you for your opinion, I'm downvoting you for complaining about being downvoted.

NihilsticEgotist ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 04:48:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I see and totally understand your point, but I think if you want people to discuss instead of downvote you should phrase it better.

PWN3R_RANGER ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:36:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I hope Peyton Reed gets proper credit from fans this time. He has now made two awesome MCU films bursting with character and strong identity.

The first time around everyone was quick to attribute the good parts of Ant-Man to Edgar Wright.

Now with this? Cโ€™mon, give Reed his credit. One of the top MCU directors for my money. Great film!

ReflexImprov ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:50:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Peyton Reed had already established himself as a great filmmaker. I hope after Marvel gets back the rights to Fantastic Four they put him in charge of it.

jpetersinmd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:01:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The two films were rather seamless, so Reed definitely did a great job.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:57:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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PWN3R_RANGER ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:07:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s almost like we have different opinions or something...

Mental_Caregiver ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:06:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Goddamn this movie was fabulous just for Scott and Cassie's scenes. It does bring up the question of why Ant Man/Wasp weren't in IW. Did Cap just assume he was still under house arrest and not bother to get him out? Ah well, this movie was worth not having Scott in IW, but hopefully we really see him kick ass in A4.

Also Michael Peรฑa is a national treasure, god bless him. Scott and Hope are my new OTP as well.

Alertcircuit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think Cap probably assumed that since Antman & Hawkeye took that plea deal instead of running away, that they're done with the whole superhero thing. If Antman were to have participated, he'd get 20 years jailtime.

Prax150 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wish they would have elaborated a bit more during the mid-credits scene but remember that the events of Infinity War take place over the course of like a day or two. It's possible that there was simply no time go and get Scott and Hope, or considering they had a wakandan army at their disposal, it wasn't much of a priority.

The only thing that bothers me is how nonchalant they were about it. Then again, I'd bet that when they were filming that scene the actors and possibly even the director didn't know about the Snappening. That stuff was so hush hush that they could have filmed it under false pretenses.

MisterBlast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's a great point about IW, they just brush off Scott's house arrest for the reason they didn't bring him in and Scott leaves his house like what, 3 times to be Ant-Man again?

Mental_Caregiver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Given the threat at hand, as Cap already saw the capabilities of Thanos's children, you'd figure that he'd want all the help he can get. Though I'm under the assumption that he didn't want to drag Scott back into the frying pan, just because of his family and that they really didn't want the government on their radar. Heading to San Fran might've detracted from the mission to save Vision, given how quickly Proxima counterattacked in Wakanda. Also, I think Scott may still be on some sort of probation.

MisterBlast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's a great point about the timing, they definitely would have had to tell Scott to meet him at the facility, which he obviously couldn't do. Randall Park's character (can't remember his name at the moment) did mention that there was three years of probation attached to his sentence at a point.

Midwest__Misanthrope ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:37:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was okay. Fun action, some great funny scenes (baba yaga!) Ghost was interesting but I felt like they could have done a little better with her. There were some comedy bits that fell completely flat and nobody in my theater made a sound. I wish they done more with Janet. I really thought she'd have more screen time but she got about 5 minutes. Overall it's definitely better than some of the other Marvel films (Iron Man 2, Thor, Thor 2) but not top tier. It was fun and that's what I wanted. Micheal Pena is fucking wonderful.

ChaosCommand ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:56:06 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For a movie named "Ant Man and The Wasp", there aren't a lot of "Ant Man and The Wasp" moment in the movie.

devilslaughters ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 11:15:00 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There was the sex scene narrated by Luis.

lun533 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:03:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There is if Hank and his wife count.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

what?

linuxphoney ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:55:31 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So I really enjoyed this movie. I liked the characters, I liked Michael Pena being Michael Pena, the Wasp kicked a lot of ass as well she should, and it was nice to see Hank suit up. they did great stuff with the powers and it was nice to see Scott have more than 2 sizes. His getting stuck at three feet tall was pretty great. I'd like to see him use that size more.

that said, was this a good movie? Not really. the opening dialogue was super flat and the whole intro was a bit ham fisted. /u/fogal__ was perhaps a bit harsh, but they had it just right when they said that making Janet the emotional core of this movie was a mistake. I literally grew up reading about her, so I had a but more invested, but even I had a hard t ime caring about her till the very end (and if I'm honest giving her first real lined to Paul Rudd, while funny and a little clever was a mistake).

Basically, there was a lot of design and directorial mistakes (TBH in a movie this big it's hard to say whether that is the director or a producer or whatever, but they were poorly made decisions).

We didn't really get to see Scott being as clever or useful as he can, which would have been nice. I'm a big fan of giant-man, but in a movie called Ant Man and the Wasp, i'd like to see them work together at least once without it being a gag about Scott's new suit. that felt like a joke that went on too long because it created lazy flaws.

Basically, the stakes just never went anywhere. the big bad was a guy that either character could have beaten down in half a second and his only real move was running away.

That's not true. The REAL enemy was time, but I never really felt like it WAS the enemy because they didn't manage it well. I never felt like Hank might run out of time (and in fact, he DID run out and still found Janet and it was only about ten seconds later). I never felt like they were in any danger of missing their chance to get out because it was never really well established what would happen if they didn't.

the use of the ants was neat in this one and I liked the big ants.

Overall, I think there was a better movie in there than the one we got, but I didn't dislike the one we got.

ElvenNeko ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:45:56 on October 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The real question about the movie: where did Wasp found a lispstick in subatomal world? Her lips was unrealisticly red. Side effect in form of a permanent lipstick? That's aside the questions like how did she even survived out there.

WebbieVanderquack ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 14:35:47 on October 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I have a lot of questions about what she ate and how she bathed and kept her hair in pretty good condition. She aged normally, so it's not like she was preserved in amber.

Scrial ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:37:37 on October 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And where did she get plastic surgery?

havok0159 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 14:28:25 on October 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And the clothes, where the hell did she get those clothes?

Afterheart ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:42:54 on October 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I guess the quantum healing particles are good for more than just one thing.

AnatlusNayr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:57:50 on October 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

she also had eyelash makeup

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:14:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Malachi108 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:42:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Probability is weird, small sizes sample groups get very skewed results. The original 6 Avengers all remained, but from 6 Guardians only Rocket survived.

inexcess ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:14:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Great action scenes and decent pacing. Some lulls but not too many. Plenty of hilarious scenes. Luckily it wasn't a rom com like they were saying. Great movie.

TrueLink00 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:18:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did anyone else think that the FBI being after Hank and Hope was sadly ridiculous?

"You gave someone a super suit before it was illegal, and then he used it without your permission one day after it became illegal. You're under arrest!"

whiskeybill ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:30:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly not as ridiculous as I found the FBI narrowly missing Paul Rudd not being home like 5 times.

NinjaGuy206 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Jimmy Woo really needs a win.

words_words_words_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why wouldn't they have installed cameras?

Bamres ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:28 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Like, have someone posted outside lol

JJMcGee83 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:36:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How could Scott a former criminal with a failing business afford a house like that in San Fransisco with the housing market there being what it is?

VillageInnLover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He couldn't.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:27:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Which is why he's a criminal.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:49:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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brady2gronk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:14:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think you missed their point.

JJMcGee83 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:59:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I was trying to say it was a really nice house for someone that doesn't have a high income job.

mostlywhite ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:19:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So with the resolution for Ghost, Iโ€™d kinda want to see a Thunderbolts team movie with her involved. Anyone else?

DreamcastJunkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:22 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It would be interesting to see what they even did with an MCU Thunderbolts. Comic book Ghost, especially after he started appearing in Thunderbolts, is such a wildly different character.

Half of what made him so much fun in Thunderbolts was the way that his crazy conspiracy theory obsession clashed with the other Thunderbolts. He was too crazy for Moonstone to manipulate. He was so crazy that he creeped out Crossbones. What made it even more hilarious was that he was, surprisingly, one of the most useful members of the team. He would rant about chemtrails and CIA sensors being implanted in his food, but he never had any trouble understanding the mission at hand or his role in a given plan. Everyone else could act sane but they'd always try and backstab the team or have a psychotic break at the worst possible moment, but Ghost was the opposite. He acts like the least reliable, most obvious traitor on the team and then he was perfectly competent on a mission. I loved that after a while the long term members just kind of learned to roll with it. New guys had no idea what the shit was going on and old guard was just like, "Yeah, he's like that. It's fine."

MCU Ghost is so different. She's barely crazy at all. Sure, Ghost wasn't always as crazy as his Thunderbolts characterization, but he was obsessed with wealth and corruption going all the way back to his debut as an Iron Man villain. MCU Ghost is starting from a very different place. She'd interact with the other team members very differently than comic book Ghost does. Heck, most of the Thunderbolts don't exist yet in the MCU, or they're as different from their counterparts as Ghost is. How does MCU Ghost interact with MCU Zemo? Although, now that I think about it, I don't think that Ghost and Zemo were never on the Thunderbolts at the same time in comics. But still! Interesting to think about how they would handle it and how her character would work in that context.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:13:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think I found a new fetish.

Hope talking baby to little school Paul Rudd is so hot.

Yuokes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shota

seyon35 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:24:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pre credits scenes: 7.5/10 Post credits scenes: 10/10

tundrat ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:11:03 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Some more physics nitpicking to talk about. :p

Why does Ghost never fall through the floor and the Earth?
I always liked the detail that the helmet was required to make the suit work. But now they're just ignoring that detail. It's an issue because he shouldn't be able to breathe normal air while in a different size. Not to mention how eyesight would work even with the helmet.

Johnny-Hollywood ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 12:09:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's a possibility thing. When Ghost's powers are going off on their own, the effect is showing her in many positions that she was previously in and then others that she would later be in. In any given moment, she could be in a certain number of states, and her power/curse is that she fluctuates between all those states. None of those naturally occurring states is a person falling through the earth.

Or it's all quantum. Pym particles are basically magic anyway.

MattCarna ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:37:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That makes sense for the most part. But it doesnโ€™t really match up with her powers in that she can phase through objects and buildings. She wouldnโ€™t be inside those at any given time.

Johnny-Hollywood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:00:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe the suit lets her break the rules? Because it's quantum or whatever.

tundrat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:41:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's actually a cool explanation on how her powers work!

Griffdude13 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:29:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think this film really benefitted from the lack of involvement from Edgar Wright. Not that I think the first film would've been better or worse as and Edgar Wright film, but it definitely suffered from trying to jam in so many rewrites into remnants of an outdated script. It still came out as a great film, but they definitely were pinned creatively in places.

This film fully put the humor, plot, characters, etc into the hands of the current crew, and it's a credit to their work. This is honestly the funniest MCU movie they've done. I like it more than Thor: Ragnarok. I think its because I find Scott Lang more relatable as a person than a Demi-God, but it just has the right amount of everything.

YoBuckStopsHere ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:22:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Now I want a Agents of SHIELD movie about the snap.

scimitarsaint ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:49:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

oh man, thanos would just teleport colston to Tahiti.

PenXSword ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Spoilers for the last season of Agents, but Coulson is already there.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:44:22 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol theyโ€™d just be annoying about it

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think if there were some kind of movie about the snap it'd need to be an anthology of one-shots style stories about individual characters' immediate reactions, and getting out of bad situations resulting from the snap.

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why?

YoBuckStopsHere ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:12:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Half the Universe population is gone. It is a disaster on a universal scale. It makes for a thrilling story.

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, but half the cast would also be gone and they wouldn't be 'fixing' the problem. That will be left to the top team.

Agents of SHIELD does best when they do their own thing and not tied down to the movies.

-Gaka- ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:22:28 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty fun movie with great gags and a couple of poor editing decisions. Essentially got what I expected.

But, that extra scene was all sorts of fucked up, and then the extra extra scene basically rubbed it in our face. Oh boy!

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:43:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

can you elaborate on the editing decisions ? I'm interested

-Gaka- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:00:10 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much just characters and implied actions that arrive on scene as needed, with no set-up shot or time to arrive. The character has to be at that scene because its relevant to the plot, so he that character arrives.

I think the biggest offender of this is when Ghost and Scott finish their last battle. Scott is called to help our with something, and so he of course does so. There is nothing to indicate exactly how he got by Ghost or why she let him go or anything. The characters simply have other things to do.

Mikavoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the biggest offender of this is when Ghost and Scott finish their last battle. Scott is called to help our with something, and so he of course does so. There is nothing to indicate exactly how he got by Ghost or why she let him go or anything.

Is this the scene where Ghost is chasing Scott? If so, she didn't let Scott go, she left because they were getting away with the lab.

-Gaka- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:20 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't know - both characters simply decided to show up in their next scenes without resolving the first one.

rdardi123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

same here!

nomefish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I found the editing to be especially bizarre around Paul Rudd. I donโ€™t know if some of his scenes were refilmed separately, or if there was some other issue, but his dialogue often felt kind of awkward in scenes (particularly with Hope and Hank) and rushed.

redviiper ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:05:52 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Antman 3: Ant Men and The Wasps

-ImJustSaiyan- ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:56:10 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And not just the Ant Men, but the Ant Women and Ant Children too.

Tapsen ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:55:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honey I shrunk the kids 3

darthjewbacca1138 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:31:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thought it was pretty good, but played exactly as I expected it to. A fun, humorous, action-packed subversion of the far more serious Black Panther and Infinity War. This was a very smart move by Marvel, especially seeing that Captain Marvel and A4 will return to the more serious route. I think that the first Ant Man has a slight edge over this, in that I felt that Scott Lang had much more of an arc there, whereas here this felt like a more easy-going day-in-the-life adventure for him, but that's only in comparison to the first. On its own I was fine with that. The first post-credits scene was completely expected, but still great to watch.

schoolboyhueue ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:44:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i wish ant man didn't have a defective suit and i wish he had more opportunities to play around with his size in combat. when he grows during that third act fight, he stays that size for quite a while. i thought it would've been cool to see scott go back and forth between becoming giant or becoming tiny. i get that hank and hope are on the run, working on the quantum tunnel, in other words, not focused on improving the ant man suit. but still. maybe it's just because i saw all the giant man moments in the trailers. i guess i secretly was hoping they saved the biggest transformation for last or something (they did this right though, when scott grew to save wasp from an impact with the quantum express, which was busy blindly barreling through layers of reality in pursuit of Normal land.)ย 

plus how cool is wasp??! hank is a damn FOOL for not letting her wear a suit until now.

creative_usr_name ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:54:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone else think the mid/end credit scenes should have been in the opposite order. Would have been much more impactful to have to walk out right after the snap.

Metfan722 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:01:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the reasoning why they did the ant after the snap, is because in the background you can hear the emergency broadcast signal going off.

DCT_X95 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:26:39 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So I have a little friendly debate going on with my friend. Is the snappening in the mid-credits scene considered a spoiler? I know that WHO gets dusted is a major spoiler. But I think the event itself is expected as it is such a major major event that affected the whole franchise. What do y'all think?

aresef ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:34:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s a major spoiler not just because people get dusted but because of who gets dusted in what circumstances and the consequences for Scott.

Yourponydied ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:15:49 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would have loved a nod if you saw aspects of the quantum realm dissolve but the tardigrades remained. A geek nod that nothing can stop a tardigrade!

ilikehockeyandguitar ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:31:20 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My wife and I just saw it and really liked it. Most of the jokes were on point and even though it was mainly a "filler" movie, there was points in it that made it feel connected to the big story as a whole.

imnotabus ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:42:17 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I laughed a lot at the jokes in the first one, but this time around they felt a little staged maybe? Went on for too long, it was like "we're going to give this 5 minute scene to jokes" rather than the first one that felt like it was more intermixed

Gave the first one a 8/10, this one is probably a 6.5/10

generic_person2 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:54:24 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How was Antman unaware of what was going on with Thanos in New York at the time? Why would they go through to the quantum realm in such an unstable time? On the other hand, Antman will have that healing power, to a lesser extent, when he comes back.

humbletales ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:04:05 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

All they would know was that aliens attacked New York briefly then Iron Man chased them off, which probably happens biweekly in the Marvel universe.

TheHoundThatRides ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:47:27 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How was Antman unaware of what was going on with Thanos in New York at the time? Why would they go through to the quantum realm in such an unstable time?

The New York stuff happened in like under an hour.

The Wakanda battle happened a day or 2 later. Antman wouldn't have had time to fly over. It's possible he didn't know about the Wakanda battle and they had no reason to think it'd affect their experiment.

On the other hand, Antman will have that healing power, to a lesser extent, when he comes back.

Eh....I think he won't be there long enough for the change to happen in him.

dayman_not_nightman ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:03:19 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Antman and the wasp happens prior to the events in avengers infinity war.

andrewthemexican ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:02:47 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But not the mid credits scene that /u/generic_person2 is referencing. I had the same thought, why would they decide to do that and not see what Hope/Scott can do to help.

But then thought about how Hank and Hope are still technically on the run and not as easy for them to fly out to Wakanda, and the NY events resolve rather quickly.

TheStreetAlwaysWins ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:11:22 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also no one really knew what was going on in Wakanda, the scene where Fury and hill disappear there's a newscast on the radio about "energy readings" or something in Wakanda. Doubt anyone outside of the Avengers knew there was even a battle going on.

andrewthemexican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:17:45 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah probably not, with how secluded they still are.

Metaright ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 10:03:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In case anyone's come to this thread looking for serious discussion, you should turn back now. Any criticism of the movie is being mass-downvoted.

Askray184 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:52:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Downvoting doesn't really matter, the default sort is "new" anyway. Also people being afraid to post their opinions because they get "bad internet points" which mean nothing is what causes circlejerks.

Don't cry about having an unpopular opinion if you think it's worth posting in the first place.

KalBaratheon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:40:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also people being afraid to post their opinions because they get "bad internet points" which mean nothing is what causes circlejerks.

No....people automatically downvoting dissenting opinions is what causes circlejerks.

Askray184 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:42:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

People downvote what they don't like. So yeah, if you're in the minority, you get "punished" with downvotes. If you stop posting because of that then you're completely silenced and people assume there aren't any dissenting opinions because they only see the majority opinion.

KalBaratheon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly, biased, reactionary downvoting creates the circle jerk. I don't think anybody is afraid to post their criticism, but at the same time, they all know their criticism well be ignored at best, and mass downvoted the majority of the time. I also don't think people just assume these movies are universally loved either.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:22:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dang. Itโ€™s not even one of the better Marvel movies.

[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 13:32:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Imagine DC made a movie this bad. These people would be lambasting this generic garbage.

bloodflart ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:21:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

this is better than any DC movie minus the nolanverse

KalBaratheon ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol no it isn't.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:14:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didnโ€™t say it was awful. Fine, fun, forgettable is what Iโ€™d call it.

poopirates ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:58:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man this sucks for Janet โ€” gets released from the quantum realm and then a few days later gets snapped to dust.

Locke108 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:02:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Marvel Studios Presents Itโ€™s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad Quantum Realm.

littletoyboat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:12:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Walton Goggins sounded like he was doing an accent poorly, even though that is his accent. Did they ask him to play it up or something?

DayWalkerRunner ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:19:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kept waiting the whole time for the snap. It makes me wonder how much time there was between the initial earth invasion in infinity war and the snap. Was Ant Man aware of what happened in any way?

The movie was very funny I got a lot of Hateful Eight sheriff vibes from Walton Goggins.

harten66 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:31:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s only one day, 24 hours

Malachi108 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:58:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I got the idea that the whole movie is just a couple of days with the happy ending, and then the credit scenes happened much later.

AnonymousTrollLloyd ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:20:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wish my grandma was as cool as Scott.

wandabarr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:27:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"We really relate to his melancholy ballads."

paranoidbillionaire ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:32:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They used tasers to stop those goons so it wonโ€™t violate their parole! Hooray!

Godzilla1282 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:57:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man screw Thanos Also that ? mark hurts. Y u do dis Marvel? :(

ccable827 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh it gave me chills...

ceaguila84 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:19:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Omg such a fun, hilarious movie with incredible visual effects. LOVED it...until the post-credit scene. I'm hurt again lol

DMPunk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:21:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I quite enjoyed that. It was fun, and funny. Like it wasn't perfect with some pacing/plot issues and the standard underdeveloped Marvel villain that's plagued like 90% of the last nineteen films. But I felt good after watching it. I loved that Ant-Man was the Jack Burton to Wasp's Wang Chi. In fact, I thought they made a great team that really complimented each other well. One might even say that they were perfectly balanced... As all things should be.

maszhanan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:11:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Janet really cant catch a break ffs Thanos ๐Ÿ˜ก

DawnSennin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This was unfair to the character, who was one of the original Avengers from the comics. It would have been awesome to see her with Iron Man, Cap, Thor, and Hulk.

Askray184 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:02:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So... Darren Cross/Yellowjacket is still around too, right? It'd be interesting if he meets up with Scott in movie 3

nhg92 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:13:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, he's dead. He didn't go to the quantum realm. He was just crushed inside a malfunctioning suit. The stolen Cross Particles however, are still out there.

Askray184 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:28:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, well that's worse

SalukiKnightX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who has them? I'm not sure if it's another thread belonging to the Ten Rings.

nhg92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mitchell Carson, Martin Donovan's character.

SalukiKnightX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So nu-Hydra has it. Thanks for clarity.

SSMBBlueWisp ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:13:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't his bones get crushed to kingdom come at the end of Ant-Man?

I'd love for Yellowjacket to return but it's unlikely given Marvel's track record for one-and-done villains. I hope Ghost returns.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:30:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No one commented on my favorite scene when the professor warned about the little girl. Absolutely loved that moment.

PrinceNuada01 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:36:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What scene was this?

nviledn5 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:56:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost makes a plan to kidnap Lang's daughter and Laurence Fishburne tells her he won't help her if she does so.

super_d991 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:58:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think they are referring to when Ghost wants to use Cassie as bait but Bill Foster warns her not to and says he won't be a part of it.

PrinceNuada01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yes that was a good scene Iโ€™m glad they didnโ€™t just make Fishburne a bad guy like I expected them to

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When Ghost is about to kidnap Antman's daughter. Whitaker (sp?) says that she's off limits and if Ghost touches her, then he won't help her.

PrinceNuada01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:53 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fishburne omg not Whitaker

ktchong ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:36:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So... will Ghost remain in the MCU and become a hero now? How many films did the actress sign up for?

DocMagnus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:40:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe if the Thunderbolts ever make it to the MCU, Ghost could join their ranks.

dewsh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

With a Black Widow movie happening, maybe a team up there? A spy thriller

TheHoundThatRides ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

IDK if she'd be part of the Avengers but we can assume she'd at least be an Antman side character.

ReflexImprov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That appears to be the intent.

rustipher ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:56:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can someone point me to a description of the second post credits scene. I left after the first one like an amateur

jbaker1225 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:12:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You saved yourself 5 minutes honestly. It was about 10 seconds long and a weird mix of lingering sadness/comedy.

ThePikaNick ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:00:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The screen shows Scotts house empty with the emergency broadcast notification on the tv playing. Also, the ant playing the drums from the trailer is the last shot.

TN05 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:58:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thereโ€™s a couple shots of Langโ€™s silent, empty apartment. The television is on and displaying an emergency alert notice with the emergency alert tone. Then we see the giant ant playing drums.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:28:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think this was wayyy better than the first. I felt like it had a better balance of drama and comedy. Hope this does well at the box office.

PokeytheChicken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:36:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow that mid credit scene

Dal90 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:30:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My probably totally wrong speculation...A4 opens with Janet using her powers to connect to a now Quantum Realm infused Scott and tell him the snapped aren't dead, just lost; setting A4 up as a rescue mission.

brady2gronk ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 00:05:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much rendered the previous two hours pointless, right?

slowmosloth ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:18:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not really? It was still a really fun movie and the mid credit scene didn't take anything away from that.

It was kinda inevitable that they had to tie up the timeline to match the ending of Infinity War. Some people from the Ant-Man crew had to get dusted, and they're certainly not going to have that scene at the beginning of Avengers 4.

PokeytheChicken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i mean i guess what a tragedy, i had feeling something like this was gonna happen but i pictured something else entirely

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How so?

brady2gronk ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 01:51:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They went through hell and high water, jumped through hoops and destroyed property and vehicles, all for the goal of saving Janet. Then "poof"-- Janet and her rescuers are gone anyway.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:26:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah? We all die. Like in Infinity War, we know these characters arenโ€™t done yet. Itโ€™s about how their deaths affect those spared Thanosโ€™ culling, and ultimately inspire them to mount a comeback against Thanos.

envynav ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There is a reason it was a post credit scene and not in the actual movie. By the time Ant-Man 3 comes out, Iโ€™m sure Janet, Hank, and Hope will all be back.

Sisiwakanamaru ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:10:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:02:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One thing that confuses me about the movie was the Shield collapsed according to Bill Foster . but doesn't he watch agents of shield?

Sanlear ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:49:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œWhen Shield collapsedโ€ doesnโ€™t negate it reforming in Agents of Shield.

Maskotaman ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:23:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Someone tell me please the 2nd post credits, I left the theater to soon.

menuka ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 02:31:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's set back at the house with the ant playing drums again while all the TV's have a distress signal/no connection. Nothing much.

The line at the end of the movie is: "Ant-Man and the Wasp will return?"

OscarMiguelRamirez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:23:26 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you see it, it's dark and impactful if you consider all the aspects of it.

dafood48 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:10:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What u/menuka said is correct. I canโ€™t understand why some redditors like to troll people that genuinely wants to know something.

DinosaurGonads ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 02:29:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hawkeye eating dinner with family and entire family gets snapped

-ImJustSaiyan- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:16 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait for the Captain Marvel discussion thread next year...

alienatedesire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:24 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If only...

shnmchl61 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:49:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm guessing the answer is no, but just for fun - now that Ghost has become an ally, think she'll step in to help out against Thanos?

MichaelM_Yaa ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:18:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I am kinda hoping no. I get the impression A4 plot is going to be kind of complex, having ghost in it would just make it that much more confusing to casual movie goers.

shnmchl61 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, good point. My brother is a very casual movie goer and he was thrown off even by Dr. Strange in IW.

arxero ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:40:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Before three of them got dusted, when they were all standing in the lab and all โ€œon the same sideโ€ (Ant Man, Wasp, Hank, Janet, Ghost, Morpheus) I thought: โ€œwell shit, we basically have a whole nother superteam right here.โ€

But Ghost doesnโ€™t have her powers anymore, does she? I donโ€™t think she could do much good.

Jesuspolarbear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost still has her powers because Janet only temporarily stabilized her, that's why the Ant-team got into the Quantum Realm again to collect the energy to heal her.

Read1984 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:38 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Funny how you said Morpheus instead of Goliath. haha

Read1984 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe she could have a "sudden grab" attempt like Silver Surfer had in the Thanos comic story.

suarezj9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:52:28 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn I missed the second credits scene. Can someone fill me in?

Young-Wolf ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:53:55 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just the ant playing the drums scene from the trailer. Itโ€™s like 10 seconds. Then it says โ€œAnt-Man and the Wasp will return.โ€ Then the period changes to a question mark.

universboy95 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:58:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You forgot about the creepy public service announcement and the empty streets of San Francisco.

StrangeSemiticLatin2 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 02:44:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But the ant survived Thanos so that's what is important.

mikeweasy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes

suarezj9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks

73452534 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:13:42 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Very enjoyable film

skonen_blades ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:22:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

With Rudd stuck in the quantum realm, I am sooooooooo hoping for a Micronauts film. Probably never happen because of toy property issues with Japan but man I'd love that.

fantoman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:56 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Arenโ€™t they supposed to make a Hasbro movie cinematic universe? MASK/Micronauts/ROM/GI Joe, possibly a Transformers

https://io9.gizmodo.com/a-2020-g-i-joe-movie-may-be-the-start-of-hasbros-cinem-1821405786

skonen_blades ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:43 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah that's right. I forgot about that. If they're smart they'd do a deal and let Marvel to do the movies but keep the toy sales. Not that I'm a high flying deal maker or anything.

clbgolden12 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:32:34 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Soooooo canโ€™t Scott just do that same thing he did in Ant-Man to get out of the quantum realm? Or can he not since the regulator on the new suit is different or whatever...?

JasonTodd451 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:50:46 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

His new suit doesn't even have a regulator

clbgolden12 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:59:38 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oof.

Wait, is that why it kept malfunctioning?

joker_75 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:09:33 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, Pym says something about a new design that's working out some kinks. That's why it malfunctions throughout the movie, and the design was specifically to get rid of the regulator that was seen as a "weakness".

clbgolden12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:37 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hm.

Well, canโ€™t Scott still put the Pym Discs in the belt slot? It still seems to control what size gets to, as Hope used it to fix his size a few times during the movie.

jerrycasto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:38 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm hoping that will get him out/on the "other side" of the snappening to rescue all those who got ashed

AmberLynn8393 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:55:06 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have a theory about the change to the backstory of Ghost. Could the original comic version of this character be the father of the movie version? Rather then the company killing his wife, (the event that prompts his becoming a terrorist) both parents died, thus leading to his technology becoming somehow infused on to Ava. It did state that her dad was an inventor that was a colleague of Pym.

FrancisCastiglione12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:58:42 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Rome Ants ing the stone

TheLast_Centurion ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:12:05 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Am I the only one who expected and wished for such an ending? Although I must say I hoped a little bit for it to be harsher, e.g. while he was hugging his daughter in the end. Lol, that would be just too dark I guess. But when it is obvious now why it happened there, since Cap Marvel is now in front of us

SirLeos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:11:33 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And I guess it confirms some theories. "Watch out, you don't want to get caught in a time vortex", or something like that.

TheLast_Centurion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:53 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, haha. That was just so on the nose, heh. I just wonder how big of a role will he have in Captain Marvel. If it's gonna be something bigger or just a credit scene and then just Avengers.

Also hoping for showing some first movies stuff like.. he shows up for a sec, as tiny, in Tony's house while he is testing Iron man suit, heh. Or maybe this time around he will try to create Avengers himself? Hmm.. not sure about that but it's definitely gonna be interesting.

SirLeos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:58 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I hope they take some risks because Avengers 4 is going to be the culmination of everything Marvel. Sure, they might continue with newer actors or something but this could be the greatest conclusion in the history of franchises or we could potentially have a Mass Effect 3 type of ending were everyone is angry and dissapointed.

No matter what, I'm excited to see how they decide to end this story. 10 years, baby!

TheLast_Centurion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:53 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but I guess, while they have to end some stories now, they have it in a way a bit easier than Mass Effect 3 did, because this is not gonna be a definitive end. Just some stories get closures but overall story will just continue on. But if this had to be an epic finale with NO MORE MARVEL MOVIES after this.. welp.. then it would be another level of huge and scary and exciting. Now it is more like season finale of some big show (maybe GoT), but it is not the end yet. So while some things might be weaker, there is still hope another will improve. But now, take GoT again, and imagine the finale they have to create NOW, with its last season.. well.. that's gonna be much harder thing to do than finales so far.

But can't believe it's been 10 years already.. and how huge Marvel movies are nowadays.. crazy, crazy, crazy.. I still remember how there was just three people in cinema on Iron-Man 1 and five on Iron-man 2. And now? Lol.. can't compare at all. Even pop-culture changed and this things are considered "cool" while then it was still just another geeky-comicbook-kiddo-weirdo-get-life kind of a movie, heh.

SirLeos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:57 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, 10 years ago I was like: "oh man, the Avengers, that would be impossible to do, no way they can put together so many characters in the same film". And not many of my friends wanted to see the movies.

Now it's basically like a holiday, going to watch the newest marvel film with all the hype around it. It's specially funny because for those that don't know the comics, the Snap was devastating. They killed Peter!

TheLast_Centurion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:49 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, feels the same. And Avengers was a huuuge event! Superheroes teaming up together on the big screen, What?! Will that even work?! And damn.. here we are.. 10 years later with so many characters they don't even bother to make origin movies for them (which I'm glad for most of them, there is just no need). And getting to Avengers felt sooo long! But now, in retrospective it looks just so quick and a bit so tiny compared to all this, haha. Although I didnt read any comics (it's just not a huge thing over here and never was and it was hard to impossible to come around one of these).

And now, Marvel is just doing whatever they want (while still being cautios) and we eat it all. Haha.

And I didnt know about the Snap, but I didnt feel like it was devastating.. more like.. finally something like this happened? Haha.

SirLeos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:11 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And getting to Avengers felt sooo long! But now, in retrospective it looks just so quick and a bit so tiny compared to all this, haha.

Definitely, and now you see that it was just 4 movies. How time passes.

lthough I didnt read any comics (it's just not a huge thing over here and never was and it was hard to impossible to come around one of these).

Me either, We had 1 comic book store were I bought some Aliens comics but that's it. The only one that I read was the Infinity Gauntlet, because I wanted to see how the original story went down, so it was pretty great. That's something that I been dying to watch in the movies, something with real consequences.

TheLast_Centurion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:16 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I like how it is changing a bit and it's not stagnating (although stories are feeling pretty much the same with the very same scheme :/ )

And yeah, totally. Even feels shocking to see that yes, in fact, it is only 4 movies to Avengers. I guess now it seems like only 4, but back them it really was much (many?). One movie per year or even two years I guess (IM1 & 2). But now, when we have three Marvel movies in a year, that's like.. one year of movies, haha. 4 years crammed into one. Totally insane. And it works! (so far)

Tidemand ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:37:13 on September 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm just curious if Janet was a co-owner of Hank's company. If she was, and she has returned, can she claim ownership to what Hank lost?

concord72 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:35:32 on October 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She would have been declared dead and any ownership would have already been passed to Hank.

Spikearoonie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:57:37 on October 27, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My personal take on it was that it was a good set up movie. There's a lot of plot threads that I am hoping will be expanded on in other parts of the MCU. On it's own I don't think the movie performed that well. Aside from the one scene where they showed Ava's parents dying I found it really difficult to get invested in the characters or the plot at all.

Crybe ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:57:28 on December 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tentapuss ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:25:17 on December 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It certainly was a movie. Big drop off in quality from the first one, probably because they didnโ€™t have Edgar Wrightโ€™s material to cannibalize. I was happy to see that Michelle Pfeifer has such ready access to cosmetics after wandering a quantum wasteland for 30 years. And that even though she said she was no longer the person she once was, she still acted like the same person she was.

nintrader ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:49:29 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

     This is probably a kind of weird opinion, but I think this one was actually kinda better done as a movie than Infinity War in a lot of ways. In terms of scope and impact, it's obviously not going for the same thing, but I felt it was structured better and the action was better. Most of the fight scenes in Infinity War were basically "Hey, the're Thanos, let's run at him" and then they get swatted away, and when it's not that it's usually some big cgi sludge being pushed towards some other big sludge (like Thor trying to start the forge or the Wakanda Battle). This movie on the other hand, had some actual choreography to it's fights. There were a lot of neat tricks being pulled off with the shrinking/growing stuff and a lot of moments of improvisation or general cleverness that made me go "oh, that was neat". I felt the only particularly cool or memorable thing that happened in an action scene in IW was the actual snap (and maybe when they blew Squidward out the air lock).

     As far as the actual plot structure, IW also had the problem of jumping across like 5 or 6 very different plotlines, which made it feel very choppy, especially at the beginning when it essentially has to start each group's story and get them up to speed with what's going on. It felt like that movie began several times before actually getting going, and each plotline was pretty distant from the others until everyone got together for the finale. Ant-Man on the other hand, set up it's premise very efficiently in the prologue and more or less stuck with it's main thread. You do have it jumping between Scott and the Pyms, Goggins, and Ghost/Fishburne, but each of those three threads is tied very closely and they intersected very frequently, which I felt made this movie flow better. That it wasn't jumping between like 30 different avengers also gave each character more time to shine and I felt like the cast played off each other very well and they certainly got their money from the cast they chose.

     If I had to pick a weak point, I'd definitely say the villians felt like a bit of a fall-back to some of the less developed ones we've had in Marvel movies, especially the Walton Goggins character. Thanos and Killmonger were great and had very compelling arcs of their own, but here the villians are mostly "good enough" to fill their plot purpose. With that said, I actually felt Ghost managed to have some fairly good stuff going on, despite not having a ton of time for development. Her backstory was really interesting and sympathetic, and I liked the different perspective that she brought. She's not trying to take over the world or even do something particularly bad, she's just hurting and is trying to get better the only was she knows. That they actually help her at the end (and seemingly make an ally of her) was a sweet touch and fit with the theme of family. I just wish she had more time to shine. As for Goggins, he was funny but he felt kind of extraneous. That said, it was nice seeing two villains who actually were working against each other from the start instead of the usuall team-up, which I felt gave things an interesting dynamic.

     As far as the humor goes, it's pretty subjective but I felt it worked better here than in Infinity War as well. The humor in IW felt very forced during some of the Guardians Scenes and tonally at odds with what else was going on, but here it came about very naturally and gelled with the lower stakes. I liked the delivery a lot and most of the jokes, be they verbal or visual, worked for me.

Other random observations:

  • I wish T.I. had more to do. He's generally a very charismatic presence and I think that transferred well to his acting in this film, but he only had a few lines. I'll definitely keep an eye out for him in further acting roles

  • I noticed Ant-Man mention his "Pep-Pep" and thought "hey, that's a Tim and Eric word". Then I remembered the Tayne sketch. Then Tim Heidecker himself showed up. I liked that Tim's character name in the credits was a typically absurd T&E name

  • Michelle Pfieffer needed way less touching up to look young than CGI Michael Douglas in the intro

  • I loved what they did with the post-credits scenes. It's so cruel, but I was wondering the entire time how it would fit in. That we finally see the Emergency Broadcasting signal on the screen has me really wanting to see Infinity War part 2 to see how society responds, which I think will be the real spectacle.

Overall, I had a great time. It definitely wasn't trying to re-invent the wheel, but it was a fun action movie with good comedy that flowed well, and I had more fun with it than IW, even if it wasn't as ambitious.

leegato ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:14:42 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My second post on this thread, elaborating a bit more.

Some background: I liked the first Ant-Man but thought many of the jokes and sequences fell too flat, and the first half of the movie suffered the most from that. The first half of the plot also seemed too convoluted and silly to me (Hank intentionally seeking out Scott, the training sequences' jokes), but was redeemed by a fun and exciting second act. It was clear to me the first Ant-Man focused more energy on the second half.

For me, Ant-Man and the Wasp was a major improvement in that the whole film felt like the second half of the first one in energy, spirit, and writing. This was the funniest Marvel film for me, personally, as I'm not a fan of Thor: Ragnarok's more goofy type of humor that relies on out-of-context one-off gags and jokes. I loved Guardians of the Galaxy, but that film basically started a trend for sillier, cheap jokes in the MCU, so it was nice to see Ant-Man and the Wasp with jokes that I felt relied on clever running jokes and contextual, relevant plot/character details. I think much of the disappointment that is coming from this film is that the scale of it isn't as grand as previous Marvel films, especially since this is a follow-up to Infinity War. The film is (literally) small in scale, and I like that it's able to standalone in the MCU without having to rely on the MCU (Civil War did not feel like a Captain America film). It felt like a proper Ant-Man and the Wasp film.

The story definitely felt like it was focusing on The Wasp's character story arc and Scott was left as a plot device as Janet's antenna in the film, but I was OK with this direction given the first Ant-Man was focused on Scott's completed redemption arc. The first Ant-Man was definitely setting up the plot of this installment, so it was only natural for the story to shift focus.

My minor gripe with the film that I seem to agree with most critics is that the character development could have been better. Ghost's backstory was under-explored and seemed to cover the bare minimum with her motives without going into any depth. The flashbacks and background were cliche, and the film honestly should have opened with her story a little more instead of the flashback from the first Ant-Man. I thought the film did a decent job developing Janet Van Dyne's relationship with Hope, considering the fact she's mostly off screen and her dialogue is loaned to Scott Lang. It's difficult developing a character not present on the screen, but I think this film managed to do enough to make the characters feel connected to her.

As small scale the story was and as bland as the character development was, I was pleased with this film for its entertainment value and how it has the perfect blend of being a standalone film while being connected to a bigger universe.

yrqrm0 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:04:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought this was pretty average for the MCU. Lots of humor that felt a bit try-hard and drawn out, especially all the stuff with Luis. And stuff like the facetime about soccer shoes, just felt random and out-of-place. At least Janet really came back and seems to be here to stay for the future stuff, so unlike some MCU movies something meaningful that will affect the future happened.

johndoe42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

facetime about soccer shoes, just felt random and out-of-place

I think the point of anything literally involving Lang's phone is that he's having to handle shit even though he's away from home and everyone thinks he's 100% of course sitting at home. That's why I loved even that facetime clip, it added to the tension. "Yeah...ok, I'll look for them...." As well as with Luis' "yeah, uh, can we do it tomorrow?"

Derspy700 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:52:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't have much to add about the movie that hasn't been said but I was very disappointed in how my audience was with the second post credits scene.

Perhaps it didn't linger on the TV or the emptiness of the city for long enough because the only thing that registered for a reaction was the ant playing the drums. I thought the entire thing was chilling but the majority of my screening left feeling cheated since they thought it was just the ant joke again.

I went with a group of people (disclaimer: all saw Infinity War) and they looked at me like I was crazy when I mentioned the emergency broadcast or the sirens in the background. I didn't think it was incredibly subtle so I'm surprised so many left almost angry about how it ended.

EDIT: I wasn't talking about the quality of the scene, it's fantastic imo. The blink-and-you'll-miss-it nature of the important aspects is what I was referring to

Boomshockalocka007 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:51:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The ant was playing the drums in the freaking trailer! Thats why we felt cheated. Dont put your post credits scene in the trailer Marvel!

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

it was playing them in the movie as well.....

Boomshockalocka007 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:45:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah.

Wendigo15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Black Panther mid credit scene were I commercials. Wouldn't be the first time it happened

Boomshockalocka007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was it? Nice to know Antman wasnt the first.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Boomshockalocka007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Right so i will just close my eyes and cover my ears for 8 trailers they play before every movie. Great advice.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:37 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Boomshockalocka007 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:38:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

slow clap

Bigb011 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like it might have worked better if they made the scene with the ant the mid credits scene and the scene with Scott and the pyms the post credits scene. Then, rather than having audiences leave feeling like they wasted their time with the post credits scene of the ant playing the drums, it works instead as an appetizer to the real meal, that being the pym's disappearance.

HCPage ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:00:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s sort of been Marvelโ€™s formula all along though. There might have been ones before it but Iโ€™m pretty sure theyโ€™ve been doing it since the first Avengers when Thanos was the mid credit scene and the after credits was the almost jokey scene of them eating Schwarma. Winter soldier had the first post credit scene where the Maximoff twins were introduced which had major implications for the next Avengers film and the post credit scene was Bucky that only had bearing on the next Captain America movie.

Thereโ€™s plenty of examples but Marvel always puts the major one in the mid credits and throws a joke or light scene after the others, probably because even at this point thereโ€™s people who Might not stick around.

danstu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

See also: Homecoming

greatness101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:16 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Home-coming was the only real troll one breaking the 4th wall and everything.

Wendigo15 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:36:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Expect in the ant one we see the TV on alert and ppl and sirens in the background. It's the first time we r seeing the after math of the snap. With Scott its before the snap. I don't think it would have worked well if u reverse them

Bigb011 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True

sammyboyg ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:32:17 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Saw it about a week ago, and honestly I was pretty disappointed, even as a fan of the marvel movies. The jokes were funny, and all the performances were pretty good all around, but the movie these actors were put in was simply not good. The characterization was weak, even by superhero movie standards, to the point that I didn't even know what stakes Scott Lang had in this movie, other than cleaning up all of Hank Pym's fuck ups. The film seemed to be banking on Rudd's charisma to carry the character, but it honestly just didn't cut it.

The action scenes were pretty suboptimal too, especially with the car chase being super CGI dependent, even beyond the growing/shrinking effects. There was one scene where Unnamed Southern Tech/Arms Dealer's car whisked around a corner, and it was blatant CGI. It sucks that a big budget movie would cut corners like that.

As I said before, I thought the jokes were funny, and the performances all around were pretty good, and I think that there was potentially a really good movie here, but it just kinda lacked impact. I had fun, but will probably skip rewatching.

kurochanizer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:15:57 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Unnamed Southern Tech.Arms Dealer? You mean Sonny Burch? The first Ant-man movie relied heavily on CGI as well. I mean...he is called Ant-man in the first place. Most of the time, sequel movies (especially Marvel ones) tend to be inferior to the origin movie.

Lord_Sylveon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:59:21 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I think that only the Captain America series has had consistent high quality with sequels. Avengers 2, Thor 2, Iron Man 2/3, and GotG2 were all inferior to their original films, imo.

ufailowell ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:26:56 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly I think only Guardians and (controversially) arguably Iron Man were the ones where the first ones in the series were the best.

Yeah I liked Iron Man 3 a lot, come at me!

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:10 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There was one scene where Unnamed Southern Tech/Arms Dealer's car whisked around a corner, and it was blatant CGI. It sucks that a big budget movie would cut corners like that.

I haven't seen Ant Man and the Wasp, but I've been noticing bad CGI in all their (marvel's) recent films. Black Panther had really bad CGI, Infinity War's was better but there were times where it was pretty bad (at least for such a big budget film). It seems like a trend, and I'm really hoping they stop taking shortcuts on CGI for their future movies.

ufailowell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:06 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm guessing that Infinity War demanded so much CGI which is causing the dip in quality.

I liked the CGI in this movie though

TheKyleface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:08 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

hoping they stop taking shortcuts

From what I've heard its more last minute changes, not necessarily shortcuts.

Twigryph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:37 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

From what I've heard from friends who've worked on these films, they leave CGI until the last minute sometimes and things get rushed. They don't have much opportunity to explore and experiment. The rubberiness of a lot of the scenes is getting obtrusive, though.

mist3rdragon ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:07:46 on August 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was pretty mediocre and boring for the first half (sooo many boring exposition scenes...) but it at some point it really kicked into gear and it's great fun from there on.

AwesomeScreenName ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:46:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My big problem with the movie was that the conflict with Ghost could have been avoided entirely if either Hank Pym or Bill Foster had stopped acting like a raging asshole for about 15 seconds.

MechagodzillaMK3 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:18:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Isnt that the entirety of the history of all world conflicts though

AwesomeScreenName ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:39:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol. Yeah, probably. I just expect more of my Marvel superheroes. This conflict was so unnecessary they should have resolved it by naming Ghostโ€™s mother Janet and having Hank shout โ€œWhy did you say that name!?โ€ at her

lossaysswag ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:22:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The point was both were effectively in a time crunch with few certainties on how to solve their problems, so neither was unwilling to divert from their mission (especially Ghost). Tunnel vision under both sets of circumstances is kinda understandable.

Mikavoo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:26:07 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She also blames Pym for the death of her parents and definitely doesn't trust him. She made her mind up about the entire situation beforehand, so even if they could help Eva (which it was clear that they weren't sure they could without killing Janet), she wasn't likely to risk the time it could take to save her.

AwesomeScreenName ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree Eva's motivations made sense, which is part of what's frustrating. They could have rewritten Hank and Bill to be much more reasonable without losing any of the plot -- just have Eva break with Bill sooner and throw in a few "We want to help you!" lines of dialogue from Hank and Hope that Eva can ignore in her monomaniacal attempt to cure herself. Maybe add a Bill/Eva scene right after Hank visits Bill at the college where Bill tries to persuade Eva that Hank will help and she won't listen.

AwesomeScreenName ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:58:03 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It wasn't tunnel vision though. When Team Ant showed up at the college to talk to Foster, Foster never told Pym "Hey, that problem you're working on -- I know someone who is suffering from a related issue. We should team up." When Pym found out about Eva's problem, he was utterly dismissive of the fact that she was dying -- I think we got one throw-away line along the lines of "Yeah, yeah -- when I rescue my wife, I'll deal with that."

Scott never called Hank out on the fact that he was willing to let some woman die rather than have a conversation with his old partner, or to take a minute to think about possible synergies between the problems.

And there was no time crunch for rescuing Janet until they triangulated her position and the two hour window was established. Prior to that, the only time issues were that it had been 30 years since she vanished and 2 years since she made contact with Scott. Yeah, I'm sure Hank was eager to reunite with his wife (and Hope with her mother), but they had no reason to think time was a factor.

lossaysswag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:49 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There was also the issue of Scott needing to return home before Agent Wu showed up to end his house arrest. Most of what you're describing especially on Pym's end is tunnel vision.

leo-g ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:52:07 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Ghost plot just ended right? Thereโ€™s no resolution right? Bill and Ghost just hugged?

AwesomeScreenName ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:51:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Janet Van Dyne helped her when she came back from the quantum realm. In the first credits scene, they showed Team Ant going back to the quantum realm to get particles that would help Ghost long term.

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:50:33 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For anyone angry that Scott was not in infinity war, please read my claims and try to refute them:

1.Natasha was aware that they couldn't contact Scott or Clint because they had families that relied on them. Even if they knew Scott was free, they wouldn't ask him to help because if Scott was seen associating with criminals like Cap/natasha/falcon, he would be a wanted person again. those 3 guys can be on the run forever but they know scott can not live that life with a daughter and wouldn't ask him to risk that. besides in the first battle scene in civil war, it was shown that cap/natasha/falcon/wanda were on a mission. where were war machine and tony and vision? no one said anything back then. there is no need to bring every avenger involved for a small task. caps side already had enough firepower in infinity war

2.Another point, Natasha and the squad wouldn't even know that scotts house arrest is over. not to the exact day.

3.Another point, Hank despices Stark and the Avengers. Also Hope and Hank were pissed at scott in civil war for interfering with the avengers and getting those 2 characters on the run. Scott has a close bond with those 2 characters and wouldn't dare hurt them like that again.

4.Another point, the attack on New York during infinity war was pretty short. In comparison to events that occured with Loki or Vulture in NY, sokovia in age of ultron, or first battle scene in civil war, or the first battle scene with hydra in age of ultron, that new york fight was over in minutes and as far as scott was concerned, it was over. tony was seen going to outerspace and there was nothing that scott could do to help him. occurrences in the mcu world are pretty common. there are probably way more battles that are not on screen that the avengers faced.

5.as for the wakanda battle, only characters with advanced tech like nick fury knew something happened in wakanda but he didnt even know what. just high energy around the area. remember in wakanda, unless you go through that portal, everything in wakanda looks like regular african land.

Grokrok ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:34:41 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just to add to your comments, the Avengers wouldn't even bother calling on Scott or Pym because neither are in the Avengers, and Scott was thought to be powerless (he convinced the FBI he destroyed the suit) and Pym and Hope were on the lam, so why would the Avengers even bother trying to reach out to them? Especially given the Avengers barely had warning of the attack and were too occupied afterwards.

I liked how this movie (as all MCU movies do) dovetailed into events from other movies, we don't need to get carried away documenting how and why every single character isn't present for every emergency.

JimHadar ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 14:29:59 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like you've got responses for an argument you're not in.

Tom_the_Pirat3 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:12:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked the following

  • that cardboard slide looks like a good time.
  • ghost phasing her arm through Hank Pymโ€™s neck as a threat was risky and badass.
  • Pym particle shrinking and enlarging all sorts of things was fun but didnโ€™t feel overused.
  • scenes where large ants are just building things in the lab were funny.
  • post-credits scene which was expected but still a reminder of IW.

Iโ€™m not sure what the point was in having Bill Foster and Ghost hug in the alleyway. I thought it was quite clear that he wanted to help her throughout the film.

Expected to see a Hawkeye post-credit but I assume that will be in Captain Marvel instead.

Duspinatra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:09:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ghost phasing her arm through Hank Pymโ€™s neck as a threat was risky and badass. -

They ripped that off from reverse flash

Tom_the_Pirat3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is that in the tv show? I must have forgotten about that. Still can't deny its a cool move.

Duspinatra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:32:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, season 1 but it has been around in flash comics forever.

cslee95 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:15:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

wasssssssaaaaaaaaaap

prefall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:18:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

just one of sooooo many good scenes

creagravity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:29:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow. I like your username.

prefall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:44:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks yours is pretty cool too

JoonasD6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So is that really from some commercial? I only know it from Scary Movie.

CapWasRight ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:00:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It originated in a Budweiser commercial.

creagravity ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:18:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Please upvote this!

HurryforCurry ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:56:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The entire "x-con" team stole the movie for me. Michael Pena's character was great and I honestly felt the jokes were a bit better than the first Ant-Man.

UnsolvedParadox ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:13:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lots of hilarious jokes, much bigger role for The Wasp, a different type of villain, fun callbacks to the original movie & that haunting mid-credits sequence.

This movie won't rock the box office or MCU but I'm 100% happy with seeing it on opening night.

kstrtroi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:38:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was pretty happy about Wasp having a bigger role as well, certainly unique in the MCU.

Eruanno ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In a way, Waspโ€™s plot was kind of the main plot whereas Scott was the subplot. Which is fine, I liked it. But in a way, the movie should have been called โ€The Wasp and Ant-Manโ€ :p

coltsmetsfan614 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:18:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So for all of you Marvel superfans out there, I have a question:

Was this the first time footage from a post-credits scene appeared in a trailer? (Specifically I mean the giant ant playing the drums.)

CopperCactus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:23:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think it is, unless you count the fact that I'm pretty sure that the post credits scene for Captain America WAS a trailer for the first Avengers movie

MichuAtDeGeaBa_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:38:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The first Captain America movie itself pretty much was a two hour long trailer for the Avengers.

Kosm-fucker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:17:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nope Black Panther trailer had the after credits scene of him at the UN

coltsmetsfan614 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good call, just went back and found it in the teaser. I wonder if it was originally supposed to end the movie, or if they already knew at that point that it would be a post-credits scene?

HanakoOF ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:36:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A great film that I not only enjoyed well on it's own but also WAY better than it's predecessor. The use of shrinking and enlarging was used really creatively, the humor was mostly on point instead of feeling awkward and out of place, and the plot moved at a brisk exciting pace.

I'm really surprised at the quality all the films of the Third Phase have been. I was worried this movie would look bad in comparison with Infinity War but honestly even in that perspective it does a serviceable job and was a very good experience.

Bravo Marvel, Bravo.

The_B1ack_One ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:07:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved the movie, and the only thing I donโ€™t really like is the mid credits scene.

Donโ€™t get me wrong, I love the way it ties into infinity war and how jarring it was but it also makes it seem like they had no clue about the thanos attack.

Letโ€™s say infinity war from the time that the ship lands in NYC to the snap is 36 hours; in 2001 when 9/11 happened EVERYONE in the world knew about it in like 6 hours. And thatโ€™s with like 2001 tech and internet.

In 2018 with smartphones and stuff ant man and crew didnโ€™t know about the ship in NYC at all?

DaHaLoJeDi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:38:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well keep in mind the original attack happened in NYC and just stopped. Even with Wakanda opened up, it's safe to assume only people like Fury were even aware there was a Wakanda attack, so a lot of people probably believed it was just another Avengers incident that got resolved in one big fight.

Additionally, Scott wouldn't be all that itching to jump into action again - it was a short time frame and they barely had time to set up in Wakanda anyway, not to mention the fact that Scott is in California and spent a good portion of the movie worried about helping Hank and Hope and being seen in the suit again. They probably saw what happened on TV and Scott got teased over going to help his 'buddy Cap' again.

the_vince_horror ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-man already had so much exposition. Do they really need to stop and say "oh jeez I cant believe what happened in New York, ok lets continue with the experiment". It would have been so forced and them disappearing would have lost all impact.

ValhallaGo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:22 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What time was it??

It was daylight in east Africa when the snappening occurred.

Could not have been light in San Francisco.

Cybersteel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was light with Nick too

ValhallaGo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

shenanigans

Seal412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True but put it in context. There was one attack in NYC which only lasted a few minutes. In terms of collateral damage I don't think many civilians died in NYC. After that the ship disappeared from NYC and the battle went to Titan. Wakanda is reclusive and NO ONE outside knew what was going on. Even Fury and Hill had no clue what had happened in Wakanda.

Now take the world of the MCU. Between Netflix & the films, there is always something crazy and cataclysmic going on somewhere. For them the NY attack and Tony's disappearance were something that happened in a matter of minutes and then nothing else till the snap. The whole world was clueless. It was Tony Stark getting involved in something just like he has in every of his own movies and the Avengers films. Not to mention what happened in Lagos, Germany, DC, and in every other MCU film.

Plus Scott was in trouble for violating the Sokovia accords. He JUST got his life back. the FBI knows he is Ant-Man. He doesn't get the slack that Tony does. Why would he leave San Fran to chase a ship in NYC that appeared and disappeared within moments. NYC life was disrupted and then suddenly continued. The world of the MCU, at this point is used to 9/11 size events happening all the time, like how mass shootings are these days in our current world.

weaslebubble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair Sokovia accords only govern international heroing. Americans doing heroics in America is a problem for the American gov. It was the globe trotting aspect that screwed them in Germany.

Seal412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True but he is in San Fran. The NY battle ended after a few minutes. No one knew what was happening in Wakanda. Even Fury and Hill was unaware of it. It doesn't make sense for him to travel 6-7 hours to NYC when the event is already over. Plus he is already trouble for being Ant-Man and would get caught because the travel logs would show he went to NYC. He would get arrested all over again. Plus he isn't a member of the Avengers, officially. He helped Cap, who is also a fugitive.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:59:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

the nyc attack isn't really comparable to 9/11. no one even died in the new york attack. worst casualty was black dwarf getting his armed wiped off

narenare658 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:49:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To the eye that scene definitely brings on 9/11 vibes, I get what heโ€™s saying though. After the battle of NY in Avengers 1 youโ€™d think when aliens came back that shit would the main focus of everyone on earth

Dora_De_Destroya ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:55:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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RosieThisBoyILove ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:06:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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nick09490 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:56:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

!

GryffinDART ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:45:15 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How was there no news coverage about what went on in New York since this was taking place the same time as Infinity War?

TheHoundThatRides ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:16:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We only know that the mid credits scene took place during Infinity War. Not the main movie.

It's possible they saw news coverage right before their science experiment and they went "wow that looks bad....the Avengers have it covered though." He was all the way across the country and halfway across the world from Infinity War's earth events.

GryffinDART ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah this is true. Never really thought about how long after the movie the mid credit scene took place. I assumed it was during though because didn't they say in Infinity War that Scott was on house arrest?

TheHoundThatRides ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:29:43 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My only explanation is that Scott never updated them on his current house arrest situation.

I feel a good amount of time passed in the main movie itself and far too long for Infinity War to take place during it. Hank and Janet had time to go on a beach vacation and come back....

FullTorsoApparition ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:45 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much this. He's not really friends with any of them and Cap's team are all fugitives. They worked one "mission" together where Scott apparently didn't even know what exactly was going on and just wanted to hang with Captain America, and then they got split.

The last they probably heard was that he was on house arrest and wouldn't be available so they didn't try and bring him in on anything. I doubt they were counting down the days until they bring Ant-man back into the fold. They may have also wanted to respect his commitment to his daughter and not put that in jeopardy.

As for Scott's side of things. The MCU is full of dangerous and strange things happening all around the world on a fairly frequent basis. I don't think it's too surprising that EVERY superhero doesn't go to EVERY event. The fight in NY was pretty far from him and was over within minutes. The fight in Wakanda was probably completely off the world's radar except for all but the most advanced organizations so it's not surprising Scott/Hope wouldn't just show up out of nowhere.

Also, even if Scott/Hope somehow knew what was going on, how was he going to get there? Hank Pym has some pretty good resources saved up, but I don't think an ant is gonna' fly across the ocean in just a few minutes and they don't exactly have their own jet to take.

It's seriously starting to bug me how so many people can accept a man talking to giant ants and shrinking to another dimension, but apparently lack the imagination to figure out how a person might not be available to travel across the planet at the drop of a hat.

juggernaut8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:29 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's seriously starting to bug me how so many people can accept a man talking to giant ants and shrinking to another dimension, but apparently lack the imagination to figure out how a person might not be available to travel across the planet at the drop of a hat.

So much this.

ValhallaGo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The real question is how is it daylight in Africa AND San Francisco at the same time??

TheHoundThatRides ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:55:44 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait a second....it's possible if it's morning ish in San Francisco and evening ish in Africa. It's a 9 hour difference.

ValhallaGo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:20 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, 11 hours, if Wakanda is in east africa like we're led to believe.

Still theoretically possible if it was like 6am in SF and early evening in Wakanda.

TheHoundThatRides ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh crap. You broke the MCU.

CynicalRaps ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:27:15 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, Infinity War took place over the course of 2 1/2 days. No telling how much time between the end of AMATW and the mid credit scene took place but I'll say maybe few days tops. Do you normally watch news about things going on on the other side of the country?

They were kinda busy managing X-Con, catching up with Janet, and shrinking their quantum tunnel, also I imagine Hank and Co are still laying low, plenty distraction to stay away from the news. Plus, that ship was on Earth for a total of what.. 10-15 minutes tops? They're in San Fran, by the time they even got there there'd be no one to help. Mind you, the news footage caught was the ship already leaving, not while it was actually here. I just don't think there was enough time.

Orleanian ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:37:47 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do you normally watch news about things going on on the other side of the country?

That's a silly question to ask on an quasi news internet forum. Of course we pay attention to things happening. More giant space ships and sorcerers showing up in New York would be at the top of r/all in a heartbeat.

Nobody_Likes_Shy_Guy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:44:25 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but we really donโ€™t know if Infinity War was actually happening at the same time as the film, just the post-credits. I doubt even if there were aliens in New York that they would freak out in California, because itโ€™s happened multiple times before and the Avengers dealt with it

Lucifeces ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's missing the point of what they said...Infinity War has to be happening at the same time as the post credits. In IW many of the Avengers themselves (Vision/Scarlet Witch at least) are notified via the news...

So while Ironman vanishes on big alien spaceship, the Avengers assemble in Wakanda and everyone Ant Man fought with/for in CW is gearing up to fight, Scott and Hope are preparing for a light-hearted dive into the Quantum Realm?

Like if you're Antman - and Ironman goes missing via spaceship, wouldn't you maybe put your days plans on hold to figure out what's up?

Parrot_dude ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:45:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Captain America never made any public appearances in Infinity War. He showed up to rescue Wanda, met with Rhodes at the Avengers facility, and then in Wakanda. Ant Man and the rest of the world has no idea there is a big battle going on in Wakanda and that there is a huge threat in Thanos.

Iron Man going missing is concerning but the spaceship is gone and things seem to be normal. I'm sure Ant Man and the rest of the world will go about their lives as normal until there are any other public updates on the news.

Lucifeces ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:50:51 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fair point about Cap and the teams actions being unknown. Hadn't thought about that.

I can entertain that Scott and the crew in San Fran could see Ironman go missing and see the spaceship leave and go about their normal lives but it feels a bit weak and out of character.

Like Scott's whole shtick IMHO is that he cares too much and always gets involved. His movies revolve around that urge jeopardizing his relationship with his daughter, he only thing he cares about even more.

So like incredibly caring father, who always wants to help out sees an alien ship appear, vanish with Ironman after a massive beatdown in NYC and then goes on to have witty, joking banter with the Ant Man crew?

Parrot_dude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:25 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, what do you expect him to do then? I'm sure if he had the opportunity to help, he would. But there was no call or anything for Scott. Hawkeye didn't show up to take him away like in Civil War. None of the other Avengers called him for help. He doesn't know anything about the battle in Wakanda and wouldn't even have transportation to get there if he did.

If your biggest issue is that they were joking around in the end, I would think that not joking around would be out of character for Scott. He loves his daughter and will get involved if he had to. But a spaceship came and gone and there are no other imminent threats that Ant Man is aware of. In Ant Man's eyes, there is nothing for him to get involved with.

Nobody_Likes_Shy_Guy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, he wouldnโ€™t, I donโ€™t think he would feel very comfortable hanging out with the Avengers judging by what happened to him last time he did

GryffinDART ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:36:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do you normally watch news about things going on on the other side of the country?

Not normally but if some giant alien spaceship came and had some guys fight with Dr Strange and Iron Man I would assume that would make national news pretty quickly and not just be some thing only the locals know about.

CynicalRaps ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

However, as i stated, Scott and the gang were definitely going through a couple things themselves to keep them busy, annnnd even when Loki and Ultron was here, doesn't seem like they cared much at that time, so why would they care about another spaceship in NY?

Lucifeces ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:57 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean Scott Lang was in prison during both of those encounters and hadn't met Hank or seen the suit yet...

CynicalRaps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:47 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm talking about Hank, he mentions the events and doesn't seem to care much about them. I imagine the way he is is the same if he might've caught the new york issue.

juggernaut8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:35 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iirc All the news crew saw was that a big alien ship landed for like 10 mins and then took off again. They didn't see squidward and the big guy fight against doctor strange, wong and iron man. It was all over too quickly. We know what happened because we saw the movie. All ant man knew was that some alien ship landed for a bit, and that iron man is missing, that's hardly super out of the ordinary in their universe

Lucifeces ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Eh. I'm adopting your explanation as head cannon, but I still think this was one of the weaker parts of the movie.

We see Ironman's disappearance and massive alien ships on TV in IW. It's how Vision and Scarlet Witch are notified what's going on while in a different country.

I'm supposed to believe that Scott Lang and now Hope wouldn't be gearing up and trying to go help out? They'd rather have a carefree, joking dive into the quantum realm while all their friends are preparing for an all out battle in Wakanda?

CynicalRaps ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, for one, IMHO, Vis and Scarlet seeing that shit in a random ass tv in Scotland is what I call a plot device... and two, the news footage they saw was already the aftermath, and they're in a different timezone.

And Scott and Hope wouldn't gear up for that, remember, they (Well, Scott and Hank at least) are not particularly fond of Stark anyways... Plus, that ship was on Earth for a total of what.. 10-15 minutes tops? They're in San Fran, by the time they even got there there'd be no one to help. Mind you, the news footage caught was the ship already leaving, not while it was actually here. I just don't think there was enough time. EDIT: Also, they didn't call Scott either to let him know what's going on, he was cut off from them because he took the deal, just like Clint.

Furthermore, the rest of the battle is in Wakanda, doubt they know much about it.

In my head, Unbeknownst to Scott and Co, the battle in Wakanda is going down, and that's exactly when the mid credit scene is occurring, anything they could have helped with, is already done and over with...

Lucifeces ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well yeah it's a plot device. Antman not being aware of what's happening in IW is itself a massive plot device lining him up for involvement in the next movie. I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying it seems particularly weak for Marvel.

Like sure - Antman doesn't like Ironman. Maybe he and Hope missed the news report of an alien ship. Maybe they also missed any sort of push alert, social media post, text from children/family who'd reach out to him etc...

Sure there's also a world where he and Hope just ignore it - but I don't think that makes up for the tone - which is really what bothers me. He's like cracking jokes as he jumps into the quantum realm. They're all having a good time.

Antman's whole shtick is that he always wants to help and loves his daughter more than anything. The two worlds keep colliding and he realizes that the Avengers and being Antman can keep him away from his daughter.

but like - very caring concerned father, sees an alien ship appear in his country and sees Ironman vanish (even if he hates the dude. He's gotta know that means trouble) and then he just doesn't care?

I acknowledge I'm way overthinking this now - and, as I wrote earlier, your first post is probably right on the nose of what they intended. I just think it's a bit weak and out of character either way you spin it.

CynicalRaps ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:23:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True, an alien ship did appear, but like I said, the ship was only on Earth for like... 15 minutes tops? maybe? I'm sure continued coverage showed that there was no longer an immediate threat, I mean even Nick Fury seemed to be oblivious to what was going on... but, yes that's Scott's MO you're right, and thast joking demeanor took a total 180 real quick... lol

Stinky_Eastwood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:38 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There had to be more time between the end of the movie and the mid-credits scene. It took Hank and Hope like 2 years to make the first tunnel, can't we assume it was weeks or months to make the smaller version?

CynicalRaps ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty sure they just shrunk it no? Ther s consistently 2 years in between Civil War and IW. Even mentioned it in IW. Timeframe matches up. It took hank and Hope two years to build that yes but thatโ€™s because the resources were gone now they donโ€™t need them especially to build a mini one... itโ€™s unclear really

Rage_Like_Nic_Cage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:00:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think only the post credits scene takes place during infinity war. Also with it could have been on the news, they just didn't see it or assumed the avengers had it taken care of. They saved NYC from a full blown alien invasion in Avengers 1 and stopped a floating city in Avengers 2. An alien ship showing up, destroying ~ 10 cars, only a city block or two, and then leaving, (while still news worthy)probably wouldn't seem as important/dire as the other events.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:25:22 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

best not to think about it

doug3465 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:17:00 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I left before the second post credits scene like an idiot. Can someone describe what happens for me?

[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 19:23:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It pans back to Scott's house, showing it empty and the TV with the emergency broadcast system and people said they could hear screaming and chaos outside (i couldn't pick up on that but i still got the creep vibe) and then you see the programmed ant drumming on the electric set, going about his business like the snap never happened.

It was short and seemed innocent at first but it is kind of horrifying.

DragonzordRanger ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:32:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It also cut to โ€œAntman and the wasp will returnโ€ and then a โ€œ?โ€ phased in

dbadefense1990 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:02:20 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We all laughed at Anty 2.0 doing the drums in commercials and in trailers. But weโ€™re horrified now of it because meanwhile, (half of) humanity got dusted thanks to Thanos.

optimous012 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The ant was playing on the drums. That's it.

e3m88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

you are right!

cokeiscool ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:30:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So did anyone else get one of those BS commercials before the movie that shows behind the set stuff and super quick interviews with the cast, this is the third time it happens and the stupid thing shows scenes the trailer never did, ruining part of the magic.

So far it has happened with Spideman, GoTG 2 and now antman and the wasp.

Please stop, I avoid trailers as best as I can only to get hit with some dumb sprint commercials that ruins a joke I will literally see an hour and a half later... just dont

ilikehockeyandguitar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:33 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't get it with AM but I did get something like it with Incredibles 2.

TheLast_Centurion ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:12:40 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I found it a bit annoying to have this artificial conflict just for the sake of conflict with just too much conflict for such a story. Could be better without it and just adventuring through quantum realms :/

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:13:39 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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CynicalRaps ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:16:12 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't realize there's supposed to be a timeframe and how they're even comparable as two completely different scenes... I mean it was quite a few seconds before they revealed Hope/Hank/Janet as dust...

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:54:10 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And that after Thanos' goons attacked New York, London and Wakada with big ass alien spaceships that literally thousands of aliens poured out of (in Wakanda)a few days prior, and with literally a world war going on at the borders of Wakanda, none of the people doing a science on that rooftop in LA turned on CNN, Facebook or even got a text realizing bigger shit was going on?

camzabob ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:16:45 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No one knew about the war in Wakanda. Fury and Maria Hill find out about it from satelite sensors, minutes before the snap. The general public wouldn't know about it and it wouldn't be on the news.

In New York the battle went, ship arrives, grief happens, ship and Iron Man fly away, and that's it. No more to see. Ant-Man and all that probably thought they could do nothing and Iron Man was handling it.

Kadexe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:56:05 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well the aliens briefly visiting New York is the only thing he would realistically know about. A better question is why none of the Avengers thought to call him, when they needed all hands on deck. Maybe they thought Scott would still be tied up with the Feds, or they didn't have a way to contact him?

Cinemaphreak ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:07:58 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nick goes pretty soon after Maria Hill. Also, it has been established that time is not constant in the quantum realm.

itshukokay ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:26:33 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was more dissatisfied with the immediate "3, 2.. kshhhhh"

Real_Rodriguez ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:12:18 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

tbf,

Kadexe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:53:10 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, I don't think it's a stretch that all three of them evaporated at once.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:08:52 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man and the Wasp is pretty good, but not as great as the original. It's got almost a 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off' feel to Lang trying to get out of house arrest to help the Pyms again without getting caught. The film establishes the consequences early when some father-daughter antics results in Lang getting his ankle monitor stuck in the fence alerting the authorities who come to check on him. Randall Park as Agent Jimmy Woo (FBI rather than SHIELD) comes across as sympathetic, just doing his job rather than maliciously hounding Lang. Hopefully we'll see more of Park as Woo, as Park has substantial screen charisma. Michael Pena does the same shtick again, while the other two pals get even less to do this time around. Evangeline Lilly gets to take center stage in the best action sequences of the film (especially the salt shaker bit).

The villain doesn't really make an impression. She's just doing what she has to in order to survive as she sees it and is willing to cross any line to achieve it, something her benefactor is not. Meanwhile Walton Goggins plays another piece of shit (something he is fantastic at pulling off) adding another layer of pressure to the Pyms hectic lives.

Finding Janet Pym is the 'goal' with all the chaos providing obstacles to achieving it. Janet gaining 'Quantum Realm' powers seems like a way around calling her a mutant and allowing her to use her energy manipulation powers to cure the villain (why not).

Overall it felt a little too 'by the numbers' even as the plot zips along at a quick pace. This is perhaps because while I watched the first film without any expectations and was pleasantly surprised, this time around I had some hopes for this film. While an enjoyable film none-the-less, it didn't quite reach the bar.

If they make another one, they need better villains. Darren Cross was basically a facsimile of Obadiah Stane (worked out alright), but going forward it would be good if the villain was something other than another jackoff wanting to steal what Pym built.

jaelinh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:47:02 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the Marvel universe, Mutants are born with a mutation based on DNA.

Janet would be a mutate, having acquired powers via exposure to a compound, energy or magical influence. Hulk and Spiderman fit this category as well.

Daiguren_Hyorinmaru_ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:35:52 on December 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

>What was ghost's motivation? She was like some shitty brat the whole time.
>How did Janet survive without food/water in quantum realm for 30 yrs. Don't tell me time ran differently. She definitely aged.
>And what? The quantum realm is supposed to be smaller than the freaking air molecules. And they went ahead and removed the masks and breathed normally like it was nothing. Suppose they were surviving on the suit's oxygen (yes since it was implied that the suits have some amount of oxygen in them like when Scott fell into the water and Hope said that he doesn't have much time like that) how is it possible that the suit held oxygen for 30 whole years? (This question is invalid anyway because they removed the freaking masks like it was their freaking bedroom).

broncosfighton ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:36:33 on December 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What was ghost's motivation?

Did you like... not watch the movie? She was going to die if she didn't absorb the energy of the mom in the Quantum realm

How did Janet survive without food/water in quantum realm for 30 yrs. Don't tell me time ran differently. She definitely aged.

It's pretty obvious that she absorbed quantum energy and became a super hero (seeing as how we're in a super hero universe) since she did the hand glow thing at the end

Daiguren_Hyorinmaru_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:14 on December 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I did. But what was she going to do after that? Like if going to prison was in her mind from the start then it'd be better for her to choose death instead.

ZeroAffinity ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:02:53 on December 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She had unbearable constant pain for most of her life. "Make the pain stop" was her priority regardless of the consequences.

Daiguren_Hyorinmaru_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:08 on December 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So you say that its better for her to spend her life pain free in jail than get peace by death? I don't think people would prefer that.

ZeroAffinity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:31:11 on December 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I absolutely would. You wouldn't, but our preferences don't matter because she has her own motivations and clearly valued ending the pain over potential loss of freedom.

Maybe it wasn't played up enough on screen but endless pain is really, really, really sucky. This wasn't a dull ache - it was excruciating. I've seen pain warp good people into bitter monsters. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that she'd give up anything to make it stop.

StudentHwale ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:40 on December 28, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Would you kill yourself if you had to go to prison? It's not a fate worse than death..

Daiguren_Hyorinmaru_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:24 on December 28, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It didn't look like she'd be released soon after what she did. If a similar situation arises where I have to spend 90% of my life in prison then I choose death.

[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:19:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Watched this completely stoned And fuck it was beautiful Especially the giant ants and the teaser act world or whatever Still really stunned 11/10 Fuck yes Wxvept it felt like five minutes and very fast Then again idk Mr ant boi I donโ€™t feel so good This is Patrick.

joshmoxey ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:12:46 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is my favourite comment I've read tonight.

strobelite33 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:24:16 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Me too thanks.

temporal712 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:11:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So, some thoughts about the movie:

  • A lot of the cast works fantasically together. The whole school break in and Scott Tot sequence was adorable, even when Hank joins in on the ribbing. And lets not even get started on Paul Rudd acting out Michelle Pfeiffer.

  • Any scene Cassie was in was a treat. The beginning was one of the most wholesome moments in the franchise, and "Don't Laugh" practially melted my heart, the same way it melted Scott's.

  • Hank gets some more good moments, showing his character. His interactions with Bill Foster and Ava definetly showed who he was before, and throughout the movie, you see these two realize that Hank is trying to be better.

  • The dynamic between Ava and Bill was nice as well. It was a great way to subvert expectations, with Bill vetoing going after Cassie, and then later refusing to Abandon Ava after all she did.

  • This whole film subverted my expectations. I was waiting for the other shoe to drop with Janet coming back. I was expecting her to sacrifice herself for Ghost, or to get stabbed the second she got back, or for Hank to take her place in the quantum realm, but no! Scott gets his freedom, the Pym/Van Dyne family is reunited like the Lang family. The X-Con business is booming, the criminal is taken down, and even the supervillain is cured and redeemed with someone she loves. As The Doctor would say, "Just this once, Everybody lives!" Until....

  • The post credits scenes were jaw dropping. I saw someone in the /r/movies thread think of it like a Vietnam flashback, and thats certainly what it felt like. It was like watching all the horror of IW all over again, with the added eerieness of seeing an empty house with the emergency broadcast on, with sirens and screams in the background.

There is one big thing I feel though that detracts from the movie, and thats the action. It's not that it is bad, far from it. It's just that its, well, safe.

The first Ant-Man movie had a LOT to prove, only doubled by 1. It's production dramas with Edgar Wright , and 2. Ant-Man is the Aquaman of Marvel. The oft ridiculed hero of the bunch, despite being the founding member of their respective premiere superteams. Plus, Shrinking seems like a silly power to a lot of people, and Ant-Man a silly character becuase of it.

Ant-Man 1 circumvented this perfectly I feel, and helped get the audience on board to the concept of shrinking as a viable tool and power, and buying into these characters. So much so that it made me mad to see so many praising all the best moments of the film, like the Luis narration, as "Classic Wright", when it was Peyton Reed that came up with these moments, and pretty much the only Edgar Wright left in the film were the Action Scenes.

This made me really excited for the Sequel, because Reed wouldnt be in the shadow of Wright, and now that people bought the premise and viability of the concept, they were free to run wild with it, and I don't think that happened in this movie.

There wasn't a single action scene or shrink/grow scene that wasn't in the trailers. I kept waiting to see something I hadn't seen before, something that would make me say "Wow, that was a really cool use of their powers!" But it never came. There was nothing I didnt see coming.

For the combat, it mostly revolved around Scott or Hope shrinking to avoid Ghost's punch, regrowing behind her, and then having her phase through the punch, for her to counter, and repeat ad nauseum. A little bland compared to the suitcase fight, or scott running up the gun barrel to punch a dude and then hightailing it through a diarama battlefield.

The action did nothing to elevate the unique concept, when it could have synergized with it a lot more than it did. For example, how cool would it have been if, in order to fix/defeat ghost whose powers come from the quantum realm, Scott had to grab her and grow and grow and grow to the point where he reaches the Macroverse, the opposite force to counteract her powers?

All in all, I would compare it to Doctor Strange. A film with a lot of potential for cool, cinematic moments, but they played it too safe. I feel like Ant-Man and The Wasp is one of the safest Marvel movies out yet. That doesn't mean it's bad, though, just that it's a good, fun film, but it could have been so much more. 7.5/10

P.S. Seeing Paul Rudd and Evangeline Lily in Luis's Narration was fantastic, If i dont see a Luis Narration in Avengers 4 with the other Avengers, I riot.

larrydocsportello ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:07:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good post but Jesus Christ, comparing the snap to a Vietnam flash back is one of the most ridiculous thing Iโ€™ve ever read. Horrific?

Itโ€™s a comic book movie and itโ€™s almost guaranteed most of those for characters will be back.

That is seriously so cringey, how sheltered is someoneโ€™s life to compare a Disney movie about super heroes to PTSD?

dbadefense1990 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:12:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nice to know that Ghostโ€™s portrayal here continued the trend of recent quality anti-heroes in the MCU (Killmonger in Black Panther, Vulture in Spiderman: Homecoming). These โ€œvillainsโ€ had their own motives and you could have a sense of empathy for them; theyโ€™re not straight-out evil assholes like Thanos, where even with his motives there was still pure evil in his actions.

e3m88 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:44:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos was not evil because his story arc is how he succeeded as a hero! In his eyes he was the only one willing to sacrifice everything to preserve life itself.

Triguy64 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:52:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know man, people keep bringing this up but I think using the stones to double the amount of resources would have been a good alternative.

SomeTool ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:18:54 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thing is, focusing on killing half of life is reasonable. Everything dies, so just making it happen even on a massive scale is doable. What does making more resources even mean? Like, more water? More plants? Animals? More resources for who? He would have to know what each race on each planet would need, and bring enough space as well, which would then fill up with more people and just bring back the problem he was trying to solve anyway.

FGHIK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:29 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And halving the population doesn't solve the problem, either. Having a catastrophe doesn't magically make the problem of limited resources go away. At best, you delay it.

SomeTool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:57 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't disagree but just saying that the "Just make more" doesn't really make any sense when talking about counter points to his plan.

pop_rocks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:49 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can you imagine the sick chains and jewelry these rappers would have if he doubled the amount of resources?!? Gold and diamonds prices would drop overnight and everyone would be rocking Infinity Gauntlets!!!

Godphase3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What, to just go and reshape Reality like that? You'd need something with Infinite power.

ihatefruitfliez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:16:47 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

eh an antihero is also fairly easy to write. Ghost wasn't anything special.

She was a standard cookie cutter villain who wanted to save herself by any means necessary. If anything all this random science mumbo jumbo (most of which doesn't make sense when you think about it for 2 seconds) downgrades her to another forgettable marvel villain

Sunshine145 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:16:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Killmonger is not an antihero, he's a straight up villain. His dad was an even bigger villain.

bluedude2001 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:16:07 on August 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was just a big meh for me. Honestly think it'll get worse over time once we do we look back on the mcu movies

bob1689321 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:32:32 on August 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed

toomuchhamza ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:45:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is Michael Pena the most under appreciated actor in Hollywood? Guy is a real good dramatic actor, and then has some of the best comedic delivery around. Heโ€™s been a scene stealer in these. Aside from Paul Rudd in the Scott as Janet scene.

M4JESTIC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:33:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i agree with you, really enjoyed his screen time. Shame he had much less of it in the sequel, compared to the first film.

bbyfaceassassin ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:05:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Saw it last night - solid 8/10 thought it was well directed overall with a good mix of comedy and action.

The first thought I had leaving the cinemas was sadness in which I cannot believe DC comics could make a film like Ant Man and the Wasp... in that it doesn't take itself too seriously (ala. Batman v Superman/Justice League) yet keeps everything plodding along in the grand scheme of things (Avengers4).

JediJones77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:35:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You mean like how they made Wonder Woman?

Ghidoran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Have you seen Legends of Tomorrow? Not a movie obviously but it's DC characters being ridiculous. Very self aware and entertaining. They even have an Ant-Man-esque character, the Atom.

Slavicinferno ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:27:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loved the movie but how did Janet Van Dyne have makeup on after 30 years stuck in the Quantum Realm?

GyantSpyder ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 13:06:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the comics there are whole tiny civilizations in the Microverse with their own tailors and plastic surgeons.

BLToaster ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:39:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Welcome to the Quantum Realm where everything is made up and logic doesn't matter!

sweetcuppingcakes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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SupaSlide ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:46:54 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Where did she get the cloak? Why didn't she starve?

Slavicinferno ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:59:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Would have made a lot more sense to have her frozen in time. Not age. And then when she returns maybe age quickly to the age she should be or something like that

SupaSlide ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:39:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I was basically expecting two things to happen when they got down to the Quantum Realm. First thought was pretty much exactly what happened, second was that she had been stuck down there for a short amount of time in her mind. But when she possessed Scott and was talking about the Quantum Realm as if she explored every inch of it I knew it was going to be the latter.

zombiepete ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:41:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If youโ€™re wondering how she eats or breathes, or other science facts, repeat to yourself โ€œitโ€™s just a show, I should really just relaxโ€.

SupaSlide ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:43:43 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't care, and I love the movie, I just think it's funny that the movie says time works differently in the quantum realm, but then show that it works pretty much exactly the same as the real world.

zombiepete ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:44:45 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just a silly line from the MST3k theme song. ( อก~ อœส– อกยฐ)

JediJones77 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:19:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She ate microverse slug grubs.

_bieber_hole_69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:26:40 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

People have mentioned that a city can be seen in the background of the QR, so she hasn't been alone with nothing to do in a trippy void for decades

Imperial_Trooper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:38:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I swear I saw a city too

CallMeMoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:57:51 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Then show it. It made really no sense.

greatness101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The only thing I had a problem with is why she aged. They mentioned multiple times that time and energy don't matter in the quantum realm.

CallMeMoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly. And how is she not FUCKING CRAZY?

We put people in solitary confinement and they're nuts in like 3 months, I can't even IMAGINE for 30 years or whatever.

Papatheodorou ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:43:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I haven't really seen anyone mention how fucking hysterical Tiny Scott was.

I'm Tiny Scott!

devilslaughters ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:30:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tiny Scott and someone else talking inside Scott. Dammit, its a Rick & Morty reference

AlfredosSauce ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 11:41:50 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie was fun and after The Snappening, that's just what it needed to be. It had a decent story, good humor, tons of visual gags, measured stakes. However, like the first one, Ant-Man 2 is disposable and unremarkable. That's not the worst thing in the world, but it means this movie doesn't crack Marvel's top ten.

SalukiKnightX ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:32:25 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

With Ant-Man, I don't think the studio wants this grand scale movie about a small time, reformed thief and doting father getting along with his ex-wife and her husband who wants to do good being a hero but falls short, never giving up. As for its cast, it's an embarrassment of riches (then again, this year's MCU movies have been just over the top with casting and their combinations in movies). Personally, its low stakes, light tone and Scott being the every man, making him the biggest underdog of the MCU, has the two movies so far endearing and it's within my midgrade group (think 10-15 out of the 20).

The wait for Captain Marvel and Avengers 4 will make this upcoming 7 months left on a cliffhanger painful (did think the two end credits were extremely eerie killing the recently retrieved Janet along with Hope and Hank (did love that Janet refered to Hank as Henry) and San Fransisco suddenly abandoned with the EAS playing just made that end credit sting (no pun intended) especially hard (I flat out cursed at the screen in shock with a kid in front of me because it wasn't expected). I hope the MCU movies continue to surprise.

-HeisenBird- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:14 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely not top 10, but still in the top 3 in terms of comedy though.

KMoneyGT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:03 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not in my top 3 for comedy either. My list goes:

  • Thor 3
  • Guardians 1
  • Guardians 2
  • Ant-Man 1
  • Ant-Man 2
-HeisenBird- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:48:36 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My top 5 are

  • Thor 3
  • Guardians 1
  • Ant-Man 2
  • Guardians 2
  • Ant-Man 1
Metasophocles ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:56:29 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Funniest Marvel film imo...and I'm a huge GotG fan.

[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 03:31:10 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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seekerheart ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:01:50 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah, in terms of humour nothing will beat what Taika Watiti does

Siruzaemon-Dearo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:10:03 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lmfao

HansenTakeASeat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:48:52 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol wtf

GetReady4Action ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 08:48:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wonderful palette cleanser after Infinity War. It was fun from start to finish. I found myself chuckling a good bit. I wish I could write more about how much I enjoyed the movie, but Iโ€™m still in a bit of shock after the end credit scenes. That glimpse into a post-snap world was horrifying. The people of the world must be freaking the fuck out since the Avengers pretty much never lose.

KDY_ISD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:13:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought this too until the stinger lol

Dartisback ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:52:53 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Marvel has had some great humor in their movies lately. Pretty much every release has been on point with exception to Black Panther

mimble11 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:36:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was decent, but just feels like an unneeded tag along movie. Like when you are watching a TV series and in the middle of the season they have a full episode that has nothing to do with the main story and doesn't move the plot along at all.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:52:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that's called a filler episode.

wildkarde07 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:18:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's funny you say this, that is basically every Kate episode in Lost. Her episodes were always entertaining but they just delayed the main story.

ihatefruitfliez ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:20:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i agree but its not like the MCU is one big story. It's a collection of X amount of other stories that have said storyline in their thoughts (post credit)

i know its right after avengers so people want continuation and connection but its more along the lines of a procedural tv show where 40 minutes is the show and the last 2 minutes teases the season long storyline till you hit the money episodes and the finales (Avengers movies)

Lucifeces ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think this is the most apt review I've read.

Like same great characters in the same fun universe but really one of those episodes where you just keep hoping they'll touch on the larger season-wide plot.

Amarsir ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:05:30 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Among the bottom of the MCU I'm afraid. (Which to be fair, is still not that awful.) I like most of the characters and the expansion of Pym's tech into more shrinking / expanding. The plot needed major work though.

Normally I like when MCU movies are continuous with the others, but Hank & Scott rehashing a fight over Civil War was not good. Mostly because it reminds me of how little sense it made in the first place! Scott is NOT impulsive (despite them saying he was) and would not have risked access to his daughter on a whim. (And Pym, who hates the Starks, would likely have been supportive.) It was a negative to that movie and kicked this one off badly as well. But it was minor.

The first thing that really bothered me was the time coincidences. Janet Van Dyne has been in the quantum realm for 30 years, connected with Scott (via retcon) 3 years ago, but now they have 2 days to find her? The same 2 days at the end of Scott's house arrest? Simultaneously an enemy they never heard of has only a week to live?

And at the same time, generic mercenary bad guy decided this was his time to get involved for no clear motivation. His presence with the other coincidences felt like random complications to fill the movie.

And speaking of random complications, there was no reason for Hank and Hope's initial response to Ava to be anything other than "We'll totally help you". They avoided saying that until 5 minutes before the end so there's something to fight about. (At the same time flipping whether she was confused and Lawrence Fishburne lied to her, or she was violent and he tried to lead her to good.)

Another thing I had a hard time with was the magic of technology. You need a pretty big threshold to enjoy a superhero movie, so I think I'm fairly generous. But two sub-atomic entities who were nowhere near each other at size can randomly find each other in a moment without trying? But then need coordinates to be found on purpose? And it's timeless but she did age but she didn't need anything to survive? And also she has the power to put an antenna in Scott's brain and to create energy with her hands?

I'll accept if if they try to be consistent or offer more explanation than "recalibrate the deflector relay" or other technobabble. But they need some effort beyond whatever helps the plot at the moment. As far as I'm concerned, if Ava magically knew that Janet existed and could be killed for benefit, she should have also known Janet could help her directly. Instead things did what they did and people knew what they knew purely to advance the fight.

Not to end on a negative note though, Paul Rudd nails the character and the car scenes were a lot of fun. I liked that his ex wife and her husband were more supportive of him now and even thought the FBI agent was kind of funny. I hope we get to see some Ant Man in Infinity War 2, as I expect that to be a good script which does the character justice.

Decilllion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:17:08 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget this is Hank's first time seeing him since he got everyone in trouble. I don't think it's a stretch that Scott goes to help Cap. Especially after this movie. We see more of Scott and his daughter. She fully supports and loves that he is a hero. He's more into it because she is. And who is the most heroic hero? Captain America.

We've seen that Scott has a problem with doing things that are equally good and bad which gets him into trouble. The original crime that put him in jail. Taking on the mantle of Ant-Man and many things in this movie. Impulsive is the wrong word. He just has trouble weighing the good and bad of his decisions. When Cap calls it's in Scott's character to answer.

As for coincidences, they aren't really a problem in fiction unless they solve a dilemma for a hero. And if they do add pressure can they be traced to the actions in the movie? So finding Janet before loosing a lock is the main pressure. Scott's house arrest doesn't really add pressure since he would have to get back to his house and fool the FBI even if he had a year left. And the Ghost's demise may have been sped up by her actions in using her suit and powers to steal things from the heroes. She is out of her 'safe room' longer. So it may be through the actions of the characters and the plot that she becomes more desperate rather than coming into the story with the 'one week' that lines up with everyone else's week.

guywhobrowsesatwork ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:00:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So am I crazy or did it look like a city in a bubble in the quantum realm?

yrqrm0 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:13:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I saw that. Wasn't addressed or even hinted at meaning anything so I think it was just the spiky design of the place.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:16:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Marvel has said that the quantum realm has references to future mcu stuff so there must be some meanining.

guywhobrowsesatwork ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:14:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Guess we'll be crazy together.

MoreGull ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:31:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Janet had different clothes, a weapon, she was healthy, etc. She was living some place in the QR. A city makes sense.

johndoe42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:00:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I don't know how that wasn't questioned. I first waved it off as it was her wing broken off somehow but when I got a good view I was like hey, does she know how to fashion weapons out of subatomic shit?

Unless she found remnants but was too far away to know where they came from.

Then there's why did she want to leave and why didn't she tell him about it.

HissatsuHero ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:43:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought mcu couldnt get more "fun" than ragnorok. Fatigue be damned i was wrong.

Great jokes and character moment with AMAZING delivery.

I did feel the climax was a little cluttered. Too many different things going on all at once or right after another.

I feel like they had all these great ideas for what to have in the next antman movie and decided to cram all of them in there. A few of those moments (giant man sinking) could have been cut to give ghost more fighting i think.

9/10

Edit: Ragnorok*

kuzuboshii ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:37:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Have you not seen Ragnarok? If you want fun, that's got it.

inFINN1te ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ragnarok is imo the best MCU movie in general.

kuzuboshii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I still give it to the original Iron Man, but it is damned good. The first GOTG is up there, too.

inFINN1te ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. My top 3 are Ragnarok, Homecoming and Civil War personally. LOVE the first Iron Man though.

Bitey_the_Squirrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My thoughts on the movie were summed up in Ragnarok https://imgur.com/gallery/EWMo0

Altephor1 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Easily the worst Marvel movie to date.

inFINN1te ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:22:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Aww. :(

tigerdrummer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And a/w is no where near Ragnarok.

Verdictlesslife ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:59:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m wondering if there are any spiders in the film? My girlfriend has severe arachnophobia. Not the kind where she just doesnโ€™t like them, but the kind that just the sight triggers a complete psychological meltdown. So hoping to see it with her but avoid that bit. Thank you for any information that can be provided!

Alertcircuit ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:10:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah just ants.

Leafs17 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:53:53 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ANTS!

Verdictlesslife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:55 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you!

I_like_back_massage ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:11:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So she never saw spider man?

Verdictlesslife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nope!

tythousand ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:01:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No spiders at all

HCPage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:19:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can confirm. Not a single spider. Plenty of ants though, close ups of legs and heads, Not sure if that would still trigger anything, Iโ€™d say if sheโ€™s seen the first one sheโ€™ll be absolutely fine.

Verdictlesslife ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:35:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We saw the first together and she did well. Thanks for the info!

Verdictlesslife ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:33:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you very much!

GammaRayGreg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:02:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't notice any spiders in the film.

Verdictlesslife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for the info!

Kingofthegnome ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:42:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Idk why I hated the first film. It just didn't connect with me at all and I found it super dumb. I loved this movie. Paul Rudd is beyond charming in this.

ScruffTheJanitor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

All the "technical" talk was really dumb. Just made up gibberish about made up quantum shit

DropItLikeItsHotBear ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:06:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You mean they were just adding "quantum" before everything?

Kingofthegnome ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well most of it made semi sense scientifically

HCPage ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:52:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How much trouble could Scott and Hope saved had they taken Ghostโ€™s suit when they retrieved the lab?

BorsLeeJedToth ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:19:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The suit doesn't give her powers, just makes it less painful.

HCPage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:55 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She said it helped with her phasing. I think it helped her remain solid and at the very least it would offer protection. Either Ant Man or Wasp land a punch to her without a mask and Iโ€™m pretty sure sheโ€™s going down.

CrashB111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not much? She kicks their asses even without the suit in the movie as it is.

Chicken_rifle ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:33:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why do I have a feeling antman will have a small role in captain marvel. Heโ€™s going to travel thru the time vortex and warn fury about something catastrophic happening in the future. Yeah yeah, he doesnโ€™t know what happened, but he knows something happened, more than just the quatam tunnel not working

almostrambo ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:06:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

will have a small role

brady2gronk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:26:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hoping we get Laurence Fishburne and Samuel L. Jackson onscreen together in a future MCU movie, since people seem to confuse the two.

Sisiwakanamaru ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:38:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
brady2gronk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:01:03 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd never seen that photo. Thanks.

AlconTheFalcon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Where is Chiwetl Ejiofor???

Ghidoran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:38 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Totally forgot about his character lol.

Nitrosaber ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:31:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone saying ghost ruined marvel's streak of great villains. Well ghost is a different villain thats closest to toomes in terms of villain. Toomes stole to provide and make money for family when he got screwed over.

MovieMike007 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:58:44 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I never considered Ghost a villain - sure she was an antagonist but like you said she had some pretty good personal reasons for what she did - now Walton Goggins as the smarmy black market tech dealer could almost be considered the film's villain but he and his gang were too incompetent to provide a credible threat, and then there is the FBI trying to hunt our heroes down, but they were even less of a threat than the black marketeers.

In conclusion this film had no villains just three opposing antagonists.

Jesuspolarbear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed. I liked her presence but noticed that she doesn't really appear much too.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:44:18 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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BlanketsAndBlankets ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:07:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The FBI agents in that scene said they had reports that Hank and Hope were spotted on campus, not Scott, so they had no reason to search his house.

mastelsa ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:36:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They were searching for Hope and Hank, not for Scott. Campus security ID'd Hope and Hank specifically and reported it to the FBI. I guess Scott doesn't have a famous enough face yet for campus security to recognize him on sight, or they'd been specifically briefed about Hope and Hank because of their ties to Foster.

billypilgrim_in_time ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:06:22 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Someone mentioned it, but theyโ€™re correct in that they only had reports of Hank and Hope, so they werenโ€™t looking for Scott in that scene

Lucifeces ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:22 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was he searching for Scott Lang at that moment? Or was he just search for Hope and Hank?

Genuinely not sure - but he only asked Foster about Grace and Hank.

Then the visit to Scott would be more of a check to see if he had heard anything or was somehow involved?

*Edit - I wrote Grace not Hope cause I'm silly.

JoesusTBF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:33 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hope, not Grace.

Lucifeces ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:40 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

MotherEff - You're right. Thanks

usgojoox ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:25 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't look for plotholes in MCU movies or you will be disappointed.

Maelstrom52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:53 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The only one that really comes to mind is that in Spiderman Homecoming, the scene-header at the beginning of the movie says "8 years ago" when it was supposed to be "6 years ago" if it was right after the events of the first Avengers movie, but they have admitted to that.

Outside of that there aren't any glaring plot holes, per se, but a lot of the character's power levels tend to fluctuate as the plot dictates, but that's a staple of every superhero ever.

e3m88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:02 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The ant man powers is full of inconsistencies, I don't care because it is fun but some stuff increase in size and mass and other things don't.

PromEmperorHarbaugh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:51:44 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought the middle dragged pretty hard but the beginning and end were pretty dang fun

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:32:38 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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NuibaraEterronusufle ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:47:43 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She can still control her powers to a certain extent even without the suit. The suit helps her concentrate for better control I guess.

Demonicfruit ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:20:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The movie didnโ€™t really explain a real reason why he wasnโ€™t helping fight Thanos. The snap happened AS they were harvesting the healing stuff. Thanos and his followers were devastating the world/universe days before.

mistarteechur ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:47:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I canโ€™t think of any point during IW when any of the characters had the time to go to San Francisco and get Scott. The New York incident seems to go pretty quick and is over in minutes. Cap and his team go from Scotland to Avengers HQ then to Wakanda pretty quick as well.

ScarecrowTEP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But if the Earth was invaded by aliens again...I think it would make the news enough so that people in SF would at least hear about it.

weaslebubble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And once they have heard about it, then what? Scott flies to New York just in case they come back?

KiraHead ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:41:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I enjoyed the movie, but so many of the cool moments from the third act were in the trailers. This was not helped by my local theater playing the trailer in front of everything, even when it made no sense. Who decided that Sicario and Ant-Man had the same audience? (Obviously excluding weird people like me who see lots of different movies.)

mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah most of those awesome moments were in the trailers. Lame. WTF Sicario LOL.

Yuokes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sicario has josh brolin

SickBurnBro ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:21:49 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Excellent, fun movie.

My one criticism is that the middle of the film felt a little bloated due to the Walton Goggins character. There were all these different antagonists stealing the building before and during that chase scene, from the mobsters to the FBI to the ghost. It was just a little bit of villain overload for me. I feel like the mobsters and the FBI could have been consolidated into one organization and the film could have been like 5 to 10 minutes shorter and edited a little tighter.

Fergye-Ward ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 11:44:29 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was '"weird"' for me, everyone I talk too says it was a really good, funny movie. Marvel fan or not, movie fan or not. I tried, the entire movie to get into it. Every joke seemed forced, Every peice of dialogue seemed fake, Every character seemed to be made of cardboard. It's weird because I really enjoyed the first movie.

This is only the first time I watched it so it could be a fluke. Maybe i'm just getting older. idk.

cokeiscool ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:28:55 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone has a different sense of humor, my friend to my left was busting a gut, my friend to the right laughed every once in awhile.

Comedy is hard and definitely cant hit everyone

SogMuffin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:11:36 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Completely agree. Maybe since it just followed Infinity War? Idk it all seemed so much like a filler tv episode rather than a movie

tgo1014 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:32:28 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But I guess that the movie goal, so they did it really well. Not every movie needs to be dramatic like infinity war, so maybe you were waiting for something more elaborated than a simple comedy and left out disappointed.

CornDogMillionaire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:55 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree to an extent, I thought a lot of the more lighthearted dialogue and jokes, especially at the start before Scott got picked up by Hope was incredibly weird and forced, especially most of what Agent Woo was saying

cuttlefishcrossbow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:26 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved his line "You should feel great about yourself!"

befree1231 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:40 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I had a similar reaction, posted about it somewhere in this thread.

yognautilus ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:58:43 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This was 100% a MoviePass movie. Nothing bad about it, nothing spectacular either. I love Rudd's Scott Lang. I like how relatable and likable he is. I also love Hope. I think she's an infinitely better character than Black Widow. I would love it if Scott, Hope, and Hank played a bigger role in the bigger MCU.

Other than the characters, I thought the "villain" was, yet again, an incredibly weak, nothing Marvel villain. You're supposed to sympathize with her by the end, but she didn't get anywhere near enough screen time or development for that.

Overall, if it wasn't for how likable Rudd's Scott Lang was, I probably wouldn't have enjoyed this movie as much. This was blatantly the equivalent of a filler episode.

C9Jeredo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:32:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This may be my favorite movie to date. It had everything I expected, wanted and more.

Something about these Ant-Man movies get me all giddy.

devilslaughters ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:19:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Til about the first credit scenes

FosterTheMonster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:57:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The music from the chase scene in the 3rd act sounded a lot like Connerโ€™s theme music in Detroit: Become Human.

UpsideNow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:03:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

OHHHH YOU GOT PEZZED!

Man I love Luis.

backtowhereibegan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:03:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Since the character has been established, they had a huge range of prop and physical comedy they could do now. And they went for it, especially with the ants.

Also the babayaga running joke was fantastic. And that school scene.

pmjeff ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:06:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That mid credits hit me harder then the ending of Infinity War

Taaaaaahz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:06:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck me, that mid credits scene was dark.

General_PoopyPants ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:13:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I watched two movies today with T.I. in them. I bet you can't say you did the same

harten66 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:34:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well I watched ant man 1 & 2 soooo

General_PoopyPants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lucky

A_Purple_Manatee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:14:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loved it. It's a breath of fresh air after the scope and grandiose of Infinity War.

exogenesis2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:30:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Luis the funniest part of the movie again!

socraticmethod88 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:33:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One of Scott Langโ€™s most charming features is hi affinity for lunchbox snacks. Referring to the orange slices line in Civil War and his taste for string cheese and juice boxes in this movie

ryantyrant ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:36:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

With the amount that they mentioned Cassie wanting to be a hero/help Scott, I won't be surprised to see her as the wasp whenever Scott travels to the future.

socraticmethod88 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:46:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If your business is going under, make a publicly celebrated citizens arrest and you just might score the contract that saves you from bankruptcy

beefytrout ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:47:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Great movie. Very funny, never got too heavy (well, until...), fantastic pacing. Action and re-sizing scenes were creative and entertaining.

No complaints whatsoever.

1337speak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:23:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Having loved Hello Kitty as a kiddo, man did I love that Pez scene. There were so many details, all the small things, that made me really enjoy the movie. Hot Wheels in actual size, Pym cockblocking his daughter and Scott, the ex wife and her new hubby standing up for Scott.

rdp3186 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:38:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tim Heidecker is a part of the MCU!

Also loved the pep-pep reference. Great Job!

rohay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:08:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

All of you hating on the "villains " not every one of these movies need a big bad the point of this movie is getting the mom back and Scott atoning for his mistakes to his daughter and hope and hank

yomandenver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:01:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Both Scott AND Hank atoning for their mistakes.

Stevev213 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:12:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant Man and The Wasp will return?

reddittothegrave ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:17:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck that ending got me...

rhunter99 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:26:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Saw it in IMAX. I loved it

rhunter99 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:38:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The last scene where giant man is getting light headed and falls, was that Whoopi Goldberg be crowd running in fear?

Azozel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:05:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My biggest question is why was the film pg-13? because of the dead parents? c'mon

Homeschooled316 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:08:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sat in a theater near a family with kids. It made me realize how many jokes targeted them. It doesnโ€™t feel like a PG-13 movie.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In Australia itโ€™s actually rated PG

Azozel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah there's no reason for this to be pg-13. This is a family film just like the first movie.

red_sahara ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:13:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did they ever identify who the powerful and "take no for an answer" individuals Sonny Burch/Walter Goggins works for?

For him to go all out/do all that precious movie screen time for, they have to be important players right?

chantastic ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:19:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would guess The Pride, except the MCU doesn't cross over with Marvel Television at all. I can't think of anybody on the West Coast who would be that big and powerful.

red_sahara ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:23:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Glad I'm not the only one perplexed. The movie also went out of its way to avoid revealing his employers.

Tho I think at one point around the ship/water scene, Goggins mentioned a name when he called them. I couldn't pick it up tho

twitch-tv-jtank7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:21:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How do you guys think that they'll get Scott out of the Quantum Realm?

BouncingFatJew ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:23:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I personally feel Ghost will come get him and they'll go meet up with cap.

johndoe42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Awesome point. Her "powers" tapping into that wasn't a mistake.

Meloku171 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:37:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cap sends Bruce Banner to enlist Dr. Pym and Scott for the fight against Thsnos, finds the van, brings back Ant-Man by Ctrl+Z'ing the Quantum Tunnel.

Uncanny_Doom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:47:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hope mentioned getting stuck in a Time Vortex or something. I think he might find a way out and bump into Avengers.

realrunawaycow139 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Prediction: Avengers 4 will begin with Ant-Man using one of those time vortexes to travel 7 or 8 years into the future. Set photos show Iron Man with grey hair and they cast somebody as a 16 year old Cassie. Then he'll team up with the other Avengers and use the quantum realm to go back in time and retrieve each infinity stone before Thanos.

Thatonesplicer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:22:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And in the process alter the timeline so Edward Norton is Bruce banner again.

By accident that is.

J_aces ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:26:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Really hope Luis gets that suit in the sequel.

Johnny_Holiday ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:22:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can someone help me figure out the timeline? This movie takes place in a matter of 2 days based on when Scott will be released from house arrest. Then we see Hank and Janet at the beach after everything is done. After that, we see all of them running their tests with the quantum realm when the Snappening happens. So how long were the events of Infinity War and where does it fall in with this movie? I can assume that a massive alien attack in NY would be huge worldwide news and Scott and Co should have heard about it and possibly made a decision about whether or not to help. Cap says that Scott is under house arrest in Infinity War which makes me wonder if they happen at the exact same time. The only thing that throws it off for me is Hank and Janet at the beach and coming back to run the tests. It felt like some time has passed. But if it did, Scott was already off of house arrest and could have helped The Avengers. Am I missing something?

Rivera806 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:09:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As far as they know, everything was fine after the New York attack considering IW mainly took place in isolated areas.

Kwijiboe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:41:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott could have lied. He got in trouble for running off last time.

SomeRandomProducer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:23:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

After NY how would he get in touch with cap? He canโ€™t just call them and they I do wish they mentioned it at least though

thekruton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The post credit scene definitely takes place at least a few weeks after the movie. Cap & Crew probably weren't keeping up with Scott day by day, if they were at all. I can easily see them not putting focus on seeing what Ant-Man was up to in San Francisco while they were hidden around the world, having to avoid the US, and needing to run to Sweden on a dime.

SomeRandomProducer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:14:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That end credit scene... wonder how heโ€™s getting out of that one.

cmanonurshirt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:56:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well I think the ant could probably just crawl oit of the drumset just fine. Not like heโ€™s tied down.

RobinTheMadTitan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:05:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I only saw 2 piles of ash, maybe Hope is just in shock and will pull him out shortly?

Also didnโ€™t they see shit was going down in NY and consider holding off on the mad science?

SomeRandomProducer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hm maybe. I feel like they mightโ€™ve showed her if that was the case though. It wouldโ€™ve been nice if Janet was the only one left. Wouldโ€™ve been a nice switch in her having to save her daughter and husband.

If they did mention NY then I completely missed it lol

1GUNNA ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:05:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey do I need to watch the first ant man to fully enjoy this?

deathsquaddesign ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:14:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, you won't understand the character relationships fully. You'll figure it out but having watched the first one will make it matter more.

Klaytheist ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:22:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The first one is an easy watch. It's small scale (heh), funny and relatively short.

nhg92 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:11:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To fully enjoy it, yes. Specially for the side characters.

Covert_Ruffian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:13:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sorta, but not really. It would help. It's a fun movie anyhow, so might as well do it.

zealen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:59:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wrote about the timeline in the marvel post.

Timeline with Avengers: Infinity Wars is a bit unclear. They say in IW that Scott can't help because he is in a house arrest. But that ended in the end of this movie and it was at least several days before that post credit scene where people vanished. So I feel like he would know that the earth was under attack and they needed him. Maybe he didn't want to go because of the probation.

What do you think? Why didn't he go to help?

DunkinBoi ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:10:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They mention he would still be on probation for another few years.

onephatkatt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:27:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He didn't go help because Marvel wouldn't be able to make "Ant-Man and the Wasp" if he did.

FireDragon04 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:10:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think it would have made more sense if the quantum realm altered the rate at which time advanced. So Scott goes in before the first Q ship ever arrives above New York and then they wait for him but disappear before he can be pulled out.

This isnโ€™t the case and does bring up some questions though. I wonder if he didnโ€™t get involved because it was possibly happening concurrently? The timeline is a little tricky to figure out.

whiskeybill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:46:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He didn't go help because Paul Rudd wasn't in the script for IW.

dewsh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's on probation but if Steve Rogers asked him or Clint to help, they would have come running. They took the house arrest deal to be with their families. Cap wouldn't ask them to risk never seeing their kids again.

Side note - what does the world see in IW? Team Thanos attacks NYC which ends once Maw takes Strange. The assassination attempt on Vision was much smaller in scale. Next attacks were in Wakanda which is fairly hidden from the rest of the world. Even if Scott wanted to help, would he know something was going on?

zealen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good points. I guess we will find out in the next Avengers.

beefytrout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:19:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because he probably couldn't contribute to the extent the others could. And when the invasion of Wakanda happened, it would have been nighttime in San Francisco... not to mention that the Wakanda battle probably lasted a few hours at most before the Snap.

Even if he had been able to be contacted (which I don't think there was time to do and get him there), he probably wouldn't have left Peanut.

LGRW_16 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:37:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How is Walton Goggins in the film? Such a great actor.

annihilate123 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:40:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

HE was fun and entertaining, but his character is pretty pointless.

BusinessTransactions ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:05:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah he was totally wasted here. Somehow he managed to give a great performance while playing a pointless, generic, forgettable character. I really hope they cast him somewhere else in the MCU.

annihilate123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:08:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agree.

Alertcircuit ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:04:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He puts on a good performance as always but his character is moderately irritating.

Prax150 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For a second I wasn't sure if I was in the Ant-Man discussion or the Tomb Raider discussion.

Gerard54321 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

himself and daniel kaluuya have a scene in WiDOWS ... scary af

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hilarious. He's like an inept Boyd Crowder but a black-market dabbling restauranteur. The trailers would paint it like he might be one and done early on, but he pops up quite often through the film and even advances the plot. If you want a comparison he'd be like Eric Roberts' or the Russian character in The Dark Knight where they pop up from time-to-time and shit disturb.

Linubidix ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:39:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really enjoyed this. It's not going to have lasting effect but I had a lot more fun with this than I did in the first film(which I found frustratingly average). The mid-credits scene is maybe the highlight of the film.

I quite like, compared to similar movies, that the stakes aren't gigantic world ending events and are much more tied to the characters. The CGI is pretty seamless and I felt like they had a little more creative exploration in putting together the stunts and gags using Ant-Man's specific powers.

casualreader22 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:43:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just got back. Not sure if I'm still supposed to use spoiler tags so I'll just play it safe and say 8/10 would be my score. Furthermore,

Pvt_Wierzbowski ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:04:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone else notice the tiny Wagon Queen Family Truckster in Pym's car case?

NotSayingJustSaying ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't. What's that about

Big_Boyd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:39:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a little disappointed no heroes other than the titular ones got their ass handed to them in this movie. Scott's streak is broken.

Maybe fighting alongside Janet is having a positive effect on him, even though he was in much better form in Berlin.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:11:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked the movie though I would put the first antman ahead of this. After the last 2 marvel studios films were more dramatic, this does work as a cleanser (until just before the credits scroll to take us back into depression). The humor is still on point and mostly works while the stars do lift this movie with their performances.

The things that keep this away from being one of the better marvel films and instead sit this in the middle of the ranks of marvel films are the issues that have similarly dragged down iron man 2. This feels like there are way too many plots stuffed in. The financial troubles over at the security place get barely mentioned while the businessman that wants to sell the lab just for money feels like a reject out of jurassic world: fallen kingdom. His plot could be cut out and the film would be more focused.

Ghost would have worked better as a nonvillian sympathetic character rather than being a villian throughout most of the story. It feels like had hank just said to ghost that janet could help her, the conflict would be resolved immediately and would give more incentive to find janet.

7.8/10

JennaAW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She blamed Hank. It seemed unlikely that she would listen to him.

DoctorHalloween ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:01:05 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like to pretend that Michael Pena is playing his character from โ€œObserve & Reportโ€ in the โ€œAnt-Manโ€ movies.

MichaelM_Yaa ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:16:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

he said his character is based off of a person he knows IRL on a jimmy fallon interview when the 1st ant man came out.

mrpottermw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:29:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I dont know if anyone has asked this but. Where did Janet van Dyne get that hoodie?

kaprrisch ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:00:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean there're a lot of questions about her experience in the Quantum Realm. (The spear came from the wings, but) where did the hoodie come from? Why is she wearing that hoodie? How did her makeup stay perfect as she aged 30 years? Her hair? What did she eat? Where did she shower or go to the bathroom?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:17 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wanted to know the same. Was she living all alone in that strange wilderness, like 'Castaway?' Was anyone else ever there? Did she hunt and live on those strange giant microbe monsters?

RedKingRising ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:02 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It would be cool if she accessed other realms, gained powers and went on adventures. Then she used her new knowledge to calculate the best time to return to the quantum realm to go back home. I'm assuming she had a husband and maybe even another kid in some other universe who eventually follows mother back to earth to be the villain in Ant Man 3 : Janet's Dirty Little Secret.

mtm4440 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They did say at the quantum level there is no concept of time or physics so maybe that stuff didn't matter? She just existed and thought. Though if there is no physics I don't get how Hank was able to "walk" around outside the ship.

whereismymind86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:43 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

depends on where they go with it but, in the comics the quantum realm isn't exactly empty.

And if it is...I dunno, maybe she wove it out of her own hair, maybe she had a Rapunzel look going on for a while.

MovieMike007 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:23:07 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I assume she made it out of Quantum Realm material. She had 30 years to figure a lot of shit out.

Bomber131313 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:25 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who said she was the only one in there?

Cruzader1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or that spear

Android003 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:20:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The spear blade looked like it was made from her wing.

97cass_y ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:52:09 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is Anna Akana in this one?

yusbarrett ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:09:28 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sadly no, it took me by surprise when I saw her in the first film.

97cass_y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:01 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Really? Damn. Yeah it was a nice surprise and she was so good in that small part. Wish they had brought her back

ethicalhamjimmies ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:16:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How was she good? I mean all she did was lip sync another actors words, she was less than a cameo. Why did you think they would bring her back?

97cass_y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What's wrong with a cameo callback? She's funny, she's animated and she has a big following

ethicalhamjimmies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:51 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I doubt the vast majority of people would even remember her from the first one, she had literally 0 character traits

Menzoberranzan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:29:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was not expecting much but have to say I enjoyed the movie. There were some giggles to be had

tenillusions ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:42:02 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I assume the time vortex is what theyโ€™ll use to go back in time in the next Avengers.

neemo98 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:51:26 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hold on were there two post credits scenes? What happened in the second one

FlingaNFZ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:53:12 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Big ant playing the drums.

chinesef000d ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:21:25 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

More importantly, it showed the city empty and a TV was showing an end of broadcast signal

justadoctorwhofan ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:19:46 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But there was also the fact that he was doing it while everyone was dead, and TV alerts were playing.

bookon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:49 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

nothing worth waiting for...

dipping_sauce ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:30:02 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why do giant humans have to move so slow? When Antman is small, he moves like a regular guy. When he's big, everything is like slow motion? Why?

Iamnotanorange ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:14:18 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It takes exponentially more energy and force to move as a creature gets bigger. So if you doubled the size of an elephant, it would take ~4x more energy for it to run, not 2x.

Plus, the doubled elephant would collapse under its own weight, assuming it was proportional to the regular elephant. In other words, it would need disproportionately thicker bones to prevent it from breaking its legs whenever it walked.

It's the inverse of the same principle allowing ants to carry multiples of their body weight. Smaller creatures will always be proportionately stronger. So if you make a goliath ant, it won't be a super strong monster, it'll just be a super weak giant ant.

Antman gets around some of that because - you know - Pym Particles. But maybe there are still similar forces at work when you goliathize a creature.

Pym particles don't seem to influence muscle strength relative to body weight. For instance, the gigantized ants aren't super strong - they can't lift 10x their bodyweight.

TL:DR - scaling a creature up doesn't allow it to maintain proportionate strength. Also, Pym particles.

dipping_sauce ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:54:04 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This was what I wanted. Thank you.

Iamnotanorange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:14 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No problem!

shreyanshu28 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:24:14 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

because he's antman.

tgo1014 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:22:26 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nice

Stefferdiddle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:41:27 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They did explain it takes a lot of his energy. Maybe thatโ€™s it?

MichuAtDeGeaBa_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:34:16 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pym Particles

maggosh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:17 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Air resistance.

Contributron ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 15:29:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to give my 100% honest opinion here. I thought the movie was incredibly bland, clichรฉ, and not very funny at all. I laughed out loud about 4 or 5 times. The rest of the jokes just didn't land. Most of the theater was silent 95% of the time. I saw it in a group of about 10 people and none of us liked it. I cannot understand for the life of me how it has such good reviews and ratings so far. It's probably the worst movie in the MCU. It was especially disappointing because my friends and I are pretty big fans of the MCU, especially as of late with movies like Spiderman: Homecoming, Thor: Ragnarok, and Infinity War. I wouldn't say the movie is terrible; it just fails to excel at anything. It basically felt like a mediocre kids movie with some mild swearing and violence. Really don't recommend it. I'd give it a 5/10 or so.

_the_baker ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:36:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One of the worst MCU villains in recent memory. Interesting concept/backstory for Ghost but it was almost cringeworthy to watch her โ€œsufferingโ€ (or whatever he hell she was doing) the entire time.. Iโ€™m not trying to be a crabby old man rn but I certainly feel Iโ€™m not alone here with this critique.

Contributron ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:39:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No you're absolutely right. My friends mentioned that too. And another major issue with the movie is that literally none of the characters have an arc. The protagonists set out to achieve a goal and then they achieve it. Everyone is basically the same character by the end of the movie.

the_vince_horror ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:46:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone is basically the same character by the end of the movie.

This is not always needed.

Contributron ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:58:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe not, but in my opinion it was a major detriment to the movie. When every character in a movie is static it makes the story uninteresting, like nothing that happens in the movie really matters. At least for me.

the_vince_horror ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Marvel needed a way to get Scott in the quantum realm. That's basically it. They couldn't have any story that was too impactful, since it all needed to be wrapped up and lead into infinity war

Contributron ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:08:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like there are several ways the story could have been more engaging and still lead into the next Avengers movie. Maybe Scott learns a lesson that aids him in the fight against Thanos? For example, maybe at the beginning of the movie Scott could be done with superhero-ing and kind of apathetic about fighting the villains, like "that's none of my business ." But then someone he loves (his daughter probably) gets hurt somehow and he learns that his apathy is enabling bad people. So then by the next Avengers he's more eager to participate. I don't know just spitballing.

architrave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:40:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not necessarily but when else are you going to develop the characters besides their solo movies? Lest all the characters morph into a single shapeless quip machine void of any substance.

Sw33tActi0n ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:52:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They might as well have called it Hank Pym feat. Ant-Man and the Wasp. He was the true protagonist in my opinion.

whiskeybill ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:44:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not to mention there was no reason for them to actually be in conflict in the first place. Bill Foster and Ghost had no reason what so ever not to be working with Hank Pym from the get go.

And then there is zero resolution to Bill Foster's arc at all, they just dumped them in an alleyway.

yoonchae ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:01:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And then there is zero resolution to Bill Foster's arc at all, they just dumped them in an alleyway.

I'd like to think that they ended things with Bill and Ava that way because they plan on wrapping up their story on the last installment of the Ant-Man trilogy.

fil42skidoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:00:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's noted in first post credit scene they are collecting quantum healing stuff and I assume it is for Ghost.

Contributron ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:06:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Q U A N T U M H E A L I N G P A R T I C L E S

SutterCane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Are you guys just putting quantum in front of random words?

Contributron ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:47:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And then there's the clichรฉ evil business guy who has no reason to be in the movie except to provide a few action sequences.

whiskeybill ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:02:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I am a huge Wally Gogs fan but he was wasted in this movie. They couldn't find the right balance to his character to the point now where I'm still not sure if he was supposed to be threatening or comic relief.

whiskeybill ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:40:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly I thought the humor was all it had going for it, the rest was incredibly meh. I don't remember another MCU movie where they just kept spouting exposition at you the whole time.

Contributron ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:41:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, that's what we all want in our comedic superhero movies, right? An hour of completely nonsensical technobabble. Those parts felt like a bad B-movie. If that's what they were going for, they nailed it. That's not a compliment.

architrave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

GotG2

Rebuttlah ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:00:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't you just love it when people are downvoting you for your honest opinion? I largely agree with you, I'm not sure about the worst of the MCU though.

kdawgnmann ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:44:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thor 2, Iron Man 2, Age of Ultron, and Dr Strange were all worse than Ant-Man 2 imo. Ant-Man 2 was kinda middle of the road MCU for me

TheRooster27 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:21:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dr. Strange was awesome.

Contributron ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

By the way it's staying around 0 I'd say some people are upvoting too.

TrueLink00 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:08:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Perfectly balanced.

Contributron ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:08:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As all things should be.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was like watching fucking Justice League, jokes that didn't land and nobody laughed to.

Contributron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah man I have no idea why so many people found it funny.

Sw33tActi0n ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:50:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree that the movie wasn't that great, but I disagree about why.

Allow me to make a case here. The first problem is that the movie would lead you to believe that the protagonists of the film are Ant-Man and Wasp but its Hank Pym. The entire plot of the film follows the 'sins of the father' trope and we are always catching up to mistakes and righting the wrongs of Pym's past. In fact, it is Pym that resolves the main conflict of the movie by bringing back the McGuffin (Janet Van Dyne) and it is Janet that pacifies the antagonist, Ghost by healing her because reasons - an anticlimax which left me wanting more from the story.

Another issue I had was pacing and story structure. I'm used to most Marvel movies having a recognizable 4 act story; Problem, Rising Action, Emotional Climax, and then the final climax revolving around a physical confrontation. I could not identify breaks in the acts and the pacing was wonky - quick cuts that jump the timeline forward when some sort of transition would have been nice.

My next issue was with Ant-Man himself. What was Ant-Man's character arc? What did he take away from this experience? In my opinion, he had little agency on the plot at all and his arc (if you can find one) is shallow at best.

I think, in the end the movie suffers for two reasons. First, because it appears that the ideas and concepts presented in the movie must carry over to the larger MCU - likely to help explain and push Avengers 4 forward. Secondly, it also suffers because of the fact that it is the 2nd entry of a trilogy that needs more lore to justify the 3rd movie. We don't learn anything new about Scott Lang and that's regrettable.

otartyo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:21:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well itโ€™s called Ant-Man and The Wasp... they didnโ€™t specify which ones.

Sw33tActi0n ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hehe you got me

dewsh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:06:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We don't learn anything new about Scott Lang and that's regrettable.

You're completely right. Scott's journey to redeem himself in the eyes of Hank and Hope. Basically to reestablish where he was at the end of Ant-man

Djl3igh ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:03:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

God this movie was so incredibly average

Dallywack3r ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:22:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously outside of the car chase, this whole movie felt so... bland.

kdawgnmann ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:46:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As far as MCU goes, yeah I'd agree. I enjoyed my time, but ultimately thought it was pretty forgettable. First one was way better.

whiskeybill ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 13:56:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly I think the Ant Man films are the most skippable films of the MCU.

drbhrb ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:55:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd much rather skip Thor 1, Thor 2, and the Hulk

dewsh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:51:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Put Doctor Strange and Iron Man 2 on that list too.

ObsiArmyBest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Doctor Strange had cool CGI

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah you have to watch Thor 1 before Thor became another comical clown.

I_Have_The_Legs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:29:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's because they don't add much to the main Marvel storyline

marsman57 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:47:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think from an MCU perspective that this true, but they are fun.

architrave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They don't add much to their own storyline either

MovieMike007 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:39:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That final after credit cookie angered me, waiting that long for a joke - a joke shot that was in the fucking trailer - was very lame, and certainly not helped by me really having to go to the bathroom by that point.

butteryrice123 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:00:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i found it more disturbing than anything.

Sentry459 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:16:47 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. It was a joke scene but there was definitely a eerie vibe to it with the empty house and emergency broadcast. The creepy aspect of it was a lot more interesting than the humor imo.

Nogrodd ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:12:52 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Same! Everyone in my theater was laughing, but I found it to be really eerie.

CaptainLang ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:18:10 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Same x 3. Very unsettling.

chenology345 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:25:05 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Same, i felt really disturbed by the whole emptiness feeling it had, well at least until i found out the ant was still there

JoeyHollywood ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:28:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

With half the humans gone the giant ant will conquer!!

Also if Scott got sleepy being big for minutes wouldnโ€™t the giant ant get sleepy too?

lazylion_ca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:16 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sure but the ant was constantly under house arrest so it's now like it had to do much of anything.

slinky317 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:50:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Marvel movies have been doing this for a while... one after-credits scene is something substantial, the other is just a joke.

CrashB111 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:49:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That Spider-Man: Homecoming scene with Captain-America was the first "gotcha, bitch!" they had I think.

simmer_tomato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:46 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Dark World one had one that was just a released monster running thru a neighborhood.

dafood48 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:06:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The very last credit is usually just a joke. Few are worth the wait imo

slinky317 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:56 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They're a joke now, but in the earlier days of the MCU they would have more meaning (and there would usually only be one).

MovieMike007 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:20:02 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But at least the previous ones have been funny, this one was kind of lame and also spoiled if you saw the trailer.

slinky317 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:22:15 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But you didn't see it in the trailer, not in its entirety.

Before you see the ant, you see a TV with an emergency broadcast signal on it and you hear screaming and sirens outside.

The joke isn't the ant playing the drums, the joke is the ant doing his regularly scheduled programming while the apocalypse is happening outside.

noonehasthisoneyet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:07 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But I read the script, the novel and watched every trailer and recut them and made what I thought would be the story. It wasnโ€™t what I saw so I was angered. I was upset seeing the last after credits scene. I had seen it already. It ruined the move for me.

slinky317 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:39:29 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Really? A joke after credits scene ruined the movie for you?

OscarMiguelRamirez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:21:01 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's doing a bit, not a real comment.

OscarMiguelRamirez ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:20:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This one was really dark, with the emergency broadcast happening and the world clearly in chaos after the snap, and the ant just following his programming. It wasn't just "oh look, funny ant playing drums."

You didn't get it, I guess.

mogwainot ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:37:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought that after credit scene was brilliant. Itโ€™s not just a gag. That was some fucked up Lynchian high art. An ant stuck in a continuous loop of pretending to be human while the world is struck by a cataclysm. Outrageously eerie. Itโ€™s such a dark joke if it even is a joke. One of my absolute favorite post credit scenes.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:56:23 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

this deserves gold

dogsaybark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:52 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Could you give a brief description? I stayed for the first after credit scene and didnโ€™t realize there was a second.

MovieMike007 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:06:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The camera track's through Scott's house - revealing the television set getting emergency signal due the Thanos snap and no one running the stations - the camera than moves down the hall to reveal the enlarged ant - the one that was left to cover for Scott's absence - playing the drum kit. That's it.

Bean888 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:31:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's it.

There's the troll text right after too - It says:

Ant-Man and the Wasp will Return

Followed by:

Ant-Man and the Wasp will Return?

[Edit foramt]

dogsaybark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:42:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you.

onimi666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:25 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I've got a habit now of waiting til after the mid-credits and then checking my phone for what the -after scene is. Paid off this time, as it was well past midnight and I didn't feel like waiting around for that.

samofny ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:52:15 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was a two hour Hyundai commercial.

silm_shady_ama ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:14:47 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget Dell and Mercedes

Bean888 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:29:00 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget Dell and Mercedes

Dude! And hotwheels too.

simmer_tomato ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:02:17 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because the first one wasn't a Baskin Robbins commercial.

Moffee ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 12:44:09 on August 29, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was bored throughout and fairly disappointed. I regretted not going to see Mission Impossible again instead.

By the end of it I felt it was the simplest excuse to have the OG Wasp back (for what little it was worth) but also to whimsically explain why when we next see Ant Man he'll have actual super human powers.

I had hoped that the snap would happen mid way through this and just completely derail the plot and it go bat shit insane but it just never came.

I understand it is its own little side adventure away from the main avengers stuff, however, I still thought it missed the mark and fell short of the first one which was solid fun. I wouldnt go out of my way to see this again - it's a needlessly long film just to tell us for some reason Wasp1 is back and ant man2 is stuck in the whatever realm.

fruitydude ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:41:47 on October 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man, I haven't even thought about that. If the snap had come midway through the movie, that would've been so awesome. A bit unfair to viewers who have not seen infinity war, but fuck them imo.

Such a wasted opportunity to make an otherwise meidocre film actually interesting. Im eager to see the sheer destruction everywhere because of the snap. We could've gotten a glimpse of that (more than just the emergency message on the TV).

But yea apart from that the film was alright. Boring at times, but not bad. The sciency stuff was dumb, the plot felt predictable and not very clever, but it was fun to watch I guess.

utopista114 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:03 on October 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Im eager to see the sheer destruction everywhere because of the snap

Flashforward + Leftovers

doge_daelus ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:11:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i feel like there was honestly too little comedy, and wayyy too much focus on the boring main plot. lots of talking and exposition, people doing nothing.

i really liked the subplot tho. the characters were more interesting and the comedy worked too.

whiskeybill ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:45:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Too little comedy? I thought exactly the opposite. The movie had nothing besides the comedy.

doge_daelus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

if it did then it really fell flat on me. but thats 100% on my comedy tastes. it just felt like they were always explaining sciencey shit and giving exposition over and over with maybe one joke to break up the tension

whiskeybill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yea there was definitely way too much of that. I felt like half the scenes were Exposition dump-Exposition dump-Exposition dump-Paul Rudd says a funny-Exposition dump.

doge_daelus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:05:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

especially with all the sciency quantum words. i get that its like supposed to be kinda sciency because its about a suit which makes you bigger and smaller, but i really dont give a shit. they explained how the suit works, now make jokes

doge_daelus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:06:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

so i dont really understand how it has an 88% on rotten tomatoes

doge_daelus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:08:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

im probably focusing too much on the negatives tho. i really did enjoy the subplot with richboi and mexicanboi. the fbi boi was also pretty funny

TheresOnly1GaryKing ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:13:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus.

I expected the Snap to occur at the end of the movie, but not to wipe out everything that Scott accomplished... ever.

Even Indiana Jones at least got the girl at the end of Raiders Of The Lost Ark.

JiiChan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:14:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yoo, why did Ghost bring Hank's box of Tic Tacs inside when she captured him to tie him to the chair? That's the only "convenient" part of the story I can't make sense of. It seems odd for it to be there to set up their escape.

TacoDestroya ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 11:55:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

After she knocked their asses to sleep, Iโ€™m guessing she took everything in their pockets, ie, keys, the altoids box you mention, etc.

JiiChan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:37:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You know, that does make sense considering the bit with Scott's phone. I like it.

Zimsan ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:29:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was probably in his pocket

DanEkis3 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:57:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Another good MCU film, did anyone really expect anything other than this? Marvel only makes good movies.

MrMagpie27 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:33:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Except for Thor 2, Iron Man 2, and Avengers 2.

Altephor1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And iron man 3 and thor 3.

MrMagpie27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:57:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Naw. Thor Ragnarok was fantastic. Loved the new direction.

Altephor1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Easily the worst one to date.

MrMagpie27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:31:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I disagree but Iโ€™d like to hear your argument.

DecLikesReddit ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 05:41:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And also Thor: The dark world and Black Panther

Yuokes ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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DecLikesReddit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:13:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just really didnโ€™t like black panther, it was so boring

number1lakeboy ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What did you find boring about a movie with wonderful set pieces, insane costumes, and interesting characters? I just don't know how anyone can call it a bad film. You can dislike it all you want, but it's in no way a bad movie. At all.

DecLikesReddit ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 09:25:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ok. Itโ€™s not technically a bad film but it is my meet favourite of all the MCU movies.

TroubleshootenSOB ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:13:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't know why I timed it but it took about 20 minutes to bring Janet back when they only had 15 lol.

Also, does anyone have an idea who Sonny Burch was trying to sell the lab too?

YoBuckStopsHere ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:24:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

15 minutes until the signal failed. It failed at exactly 15 minutes.

TroubleshootenSOB ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:14:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Aw shit, good catch

Bomber131313 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:45:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also, does anyone have an idea who Sonny Burch was trying to sell the lab too?

He thinks there is tech inside worth millions or billions.

But in truth he was there to add henchmen Ant-Man and Wasp could fight.

TroubleshootenSOB ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:52:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But in truth he was there to add henchmen Ant-Man and Wasp could fight.

I hear you on that haha though he already had a buyer lined up. I can't remember if that was who he was calling while on the ferry or if that call was just for a pick up. I was hoping someone with more comic knowledge had an idea of someone the dude dealt with a lot because I'm not finding anything on the web.

SanityPills ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:08:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He definitely said he had a buyer in the movie, he wasn't just chasing after the heroes while twirling his mustache. They'll probably get brought up in the future. My immediate guess was AIM, although Oscorp is definitely a possibility now that they have Spider-Man.

Considering this was black market dealings in the first place, I'm leaning closer to AIM as, for the long and the short of it, is an underground arms dealer that was originally a part of Hydra but no longer is. They are big in the development of weapons and selling them instead of just acquiring stolen weapons and selling.

TroubleshootenSOB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Kind of forgot about AIM since their CEO and a bunch of scientists went down in Iron Man 3 and we never heard about them since.

SanityPills ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:04 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I totally forgot they were in IM3, so I guess we're even! I also totally blanked on Cross Technology, which Burch was chair of for awhile in the comics. That may be more likely since, as you pointed out, AIM was already taken care of in IM3.

Passwordis12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought he said Uzma or Guzman while on the phone.

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was hoping someone with more comic knowledge had an idea of someone the dude dealt with a lot because I'm not finding anything on the web.

I don't recall them giving a name, but if I had to guess it was Mitchell Carson. He was the a-hole in the first film that got his nose broken by Hank in the opening scene. But that's just a guess.

mjack421 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:06:30 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Big takeaway from this: Hank Pym is an asshole lol. Hard not to side with Fishburne's character.

jl_theprofessor ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:34:14 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So he's the same as he is in the comics?

mjack421 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:14:59 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hmmm never read the comics. Didn't know that.

jl_theprofessor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:05:03 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He beat his wife, so yeah, asshole :P

Deepcrows ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:41:02 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm glad that they showed how much of an asshole Pym is. In the comics, he's kind of a monster sometimes.

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:18:15 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

His assholeishness might've been exaggerated by the suit. Shrinking for Cross, the villain in the first movie mad him become hyper angry and insane.

WillNytheScoringGuy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:02:06 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The plot was dumb but that didn't stop me from enjoying the movie, I didn't like the first ant man that much and I felt like there were a lot of the jokes didnt land. This one however had me laughing throughout , Paul Rudd and Michael Pena were at their best.

Literal_Genius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:12 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with all of this. I'd add that it was REALLY science-y, almost like they heard the criticism from the first one and leaned into it.

thebankdick ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 14:40:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

WOW, I'm a really minority here. I did not like this movie AT ALL. Pacing of this movie was unbearable. There's absolutely no story to tell here. But I DID enjoy Michael Pena's truth serum scene, and Paul Rudd becoming Michelle Pfeiffer. Other than that, it was 30 min too long.

ScarecrowTEP ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:38:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yea, we are def in the minority, I had trouble connecting with any of the new characters introduced and felt the exposition dumps were painful to sit through.

NordicPuffin ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:57:44 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Totally agree, it was painfully boring for the first 40 minutes. Predictable plot twists, cookie-cutter ending and 'gotcha' moments pissed me off. Some jokes were cringe-worthy, I don't know, maybe it wasn't movie's fault, but rather me being dozy. Pena was adorable, Rudd was ok.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:01 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with you. This movie was relatively mediocre and i feel its not worth the movie ticket.

Lanunborneo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:42:03 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agreed with you. Im huge ant man fans. While watching it,thereโ€™s something wrong but i cant identify it until you mention โ€˜pacingโ€™. Lack of details is another one.

rdardi123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

weirdly enough i agree with most of what you said, but i enjoyed the movie a lot despite these faults! i was just very entertained the whole time in a weird way!

ObsiArmyBest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:53:23 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The story was pretty small, but I still found it enjoyable. They couldn't have a big story with infinity war just about to happen.

kafuffle ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:21:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So you didnโ€™t like the movie at all... then proceed to list things you liked about it.

thebankdick ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:33:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Correction: I did like 5 minutes of this movie.. There you go.

Doctor_Sleepless ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:45:22 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The truth serum is working!

JoeIbanez ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:57:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved this film. It had a lot of heart. At the same time the story was a little bit of a mess and went here and there and there and there and in the end while we got the happy ending it was a little anticlimatic. That being said the movie is still tons of fun. Hannah John Kamen has a ton of screen presence. Some of the jokes were dead on, like Luis with the truth serum. And some were not. The little girl stole every scene. And as awesome as Scott Lang is, Evangeline Lilly is glorious as the Wasp. Some of the movie is downright silly but overall a solid 7 out of 10 for me. Post credits scene is cool. I so saw that coming though.

cippopotomas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I so saw that coming though.

Right? I'm really surprised that so many people didn't see the snap coming. It's kind of a crucial detail if his timeline was ever gonna catch up to current events.

L1vingTribunal ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:12:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can't wait for the John Wick and Marvel crossover

Waffle2006 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:56:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This may be the first time where a post-credits scene steals the entire movie

Malachi108 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:54:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wasn't ythat the case with Deadpool? It was just as shocking, only in the opposite way.

T0oShayzz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:00:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Movie was OK to be honest, I still enjoyed it greatly but it had its shortcomings (villians, mediocre story) but other than that was very enjoyable.

carlosboshell ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:42:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A really good movie, with the visuals of Dr Strange, the action scenes of Captain America 2 and the humor of GOTG. And some people are saying that on postcredit scene you could see Thanos...

GoesOff_On_Tangent ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:34:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

20 bucks says Ghost comes back to retrieve Scott in IW2, but doesn't do anything beyond that. Or, the ant in the apartment goes to find Scott after taking its headphones off. At the end of IW, it looked like Fury was driving was driving in San Francisco, so I imagine that'll play into IW2, like Scott is the one that finds the weird Captain Marvel pager, or he calls the surviving Avengers who come to SF and see the pager and meet her, etc.

I thought Ghost was decent but underwhelming. Not a big fan of the whole "let us explain our entire life stories and evil plan while you're all sitting up tied" thing, it would have been more interesting to find out who she was in a different way. Also how many secret operatives can SHIELD have?

Beyond that, Ghost just didn't do it for me. Scott and Hope could really stop her at any time if they team up: she walks through walls, they walk over, under, or kick through them, it just didn't feel like a threat. Then again, this was more of a heist movie with multiple teams going after the same target, not so much a battle, so I can see why she was executed that way.

There didn't seem to be much character development, everyone is exactly the same at the beginning and the end. The only thing is the "rivalry" between Michael Douglas and Morpheus, and Hope and Scott not liking each other (for a relatively dumb reason) and then getting over that. But there wasn't any major emotional arc changing them as people, everyone got everything they wanted without having to make any sacrifices or change along the way. It was less a movie and more an episode of an "Ant-Man and The Wasp" TV show, where everything gets resolved all nicely in a bundle with your favorite characters remaining their same old selves for next week's episode.

Was also kind of annoyed that Michelle Pfeiffer didn't seem to change at all personality wise from being down there so long, I think it would've been more intriguing that she forgot them initially but then remembered at a crucial moment.

Jokes were funny, although I saw it with a crowded theater so that might have overamplified just how funny everything was. Overall it's a fun romp but definitely lacking in the drama/story department.

Riitchiie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:56:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just wanted to add my two cents to your opinion.

First off, how many secret operatives could Shield have? Lots. Itโ€™s Shield. Thatโ€™s kind of what they do.

Your point about Scott and Hope being able to take down Ghost at any time if they just teamed up, sure. But Scott hasnโ€™t been Ant-Man for two years. And their relatively dumb reason for Hope being mad at Scott? You mean the fact that he went behind her and Hankโ€™s back, stole the Ant-Man suit, and made them enemies of the state? A little more than relatively dumb if you ask me.

I do agree that there was a lot of exposition. I thought Randall Parkโ€™s Agent Wooโ€™s exposition of why Scott was locked up on house arrest was done well and humorously. But Ghostโ€™s unfortunately back story was lazily done. But sometimes thatโ€™s what you gotta do to keep the story moving forward.

I think that Janet Van Dyneโ€™s personality not changing was fine. She points out that in the Quantum Realm she went through evolution. That can easily explain why she didnโ€™t go crazy because of isolation over 30 years.

I agree that Ghost will probably be the one to save Scott and possibly through being in the Quantum Realm, Scott will have some answers or solutions in IW2.

GoesOff_On_Tangent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:28:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For the secret operatives, well yeah you're correct, but I meant more how many times are we going to hear that SHIELD/HYDRA ended up coercing people with super powers into doing their bidding? Just feels old at this point and makes the MCU feel smaller. That's why I liked the first Ant-Man villain, new guy new agenda, didn't have a grudge against the Avengers or Stark or wanted to take over the world/universe.

I guess you could argue that Scott not being Ant-Man for two years would make that more suspenseful/intriguing, but being Ant-Man doesn't seem to be something that's relatively hard to be. You get small, you get big, occasionally throw a punch or two. Flying like the Wasp though seems much more difficult.

Yeah still a relatively dumb reason, at least the way they portrayed it. Hank and Hope seemed to treat them being enemies of the state as a mild inconvenience, they were already pretty secluded and under the radar before all that, and there was really nothing stressing just how desperate their new situation had become, i.e. something like a downtrodden Hope having to wear disguises just to buy groceries, or Hank frustrated about being cooped up all day.

Still, we see Hank losing his mind the first few seconds he walks down there and it's hard to imagine that she didn't suffer some sort of damaging long term effects or changes from that. Sure, you could say Janet survived that same experience with her mind intact because of 30 years of evolution, but that honestly just felt lazy writing, like the Quantum Realm is just a giant storytelling McGuffin that does whatever it needs to do through needlessly overcomplicated scientific explanation.

Agree on your last point.

fascist___hag ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:12:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was also kind of annoyed that Michelle Pfeiffer didn't seem to change at all personality wise from being down there so long,

I was really expecting her to be slightly evil after being down there and the way she was holding Ghost's head healing her, part of me anticipated a really dark neck snap.

But then remembered it's a Marvel movie so no dice.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:29:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just saw it earlier today and enjoyed it; it was a fun heist movie and a good follow-up to the original movie. I liked that Peyton Reed returned to direct - it was pretty consistent with the first Ant-Man as far as comedic timing and overall pacing. The jokes landed, the action scenes were just the right length without getting stale and were creative (the kitchen scene, the car chase with the pez dispenser are the two that immediately come to mind). I could have done with less of the Sonny/FBI sideplot and more of Luis and Co, and maybe more of the professor that Laurence Fishburne played. The mid-credits scene packed a punch. I wondered how long after Civil War this one took place and how it would tie into Infinity War. The post-credit scene as well packed a punch with its silence and the solitary feeling it had save for the ant. I can't wait to see how this ties into Avengers 4 next May.

Overall, I'd give it an 8/10.

Nickerdoodle ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:56:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m positive they said it was 2yrs after Civil War, which was part of Langโ€™s house arrest.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That rings a bell now that you mention it. I'm seeing it again tomorrow, so it'll probably click when I watch whatever scene it was mentioned in.

Dreamatose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How lost will I be seeing this one without seeing the first?

Woodsie13 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:57:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not very, the plot relevant parts are recapped, and as long as youโ€™ve seen/know what happened in Civil War, youโ€™ll be good.

Random--Person ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:08:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I dunno if I was seeing things but it looked like there was a city looking thing in the background when Pym and his wife were leaving the quantum relm

Megaman1981 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I saw it too.

Creepeth ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:05:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Here are my thoughts after seeing this movie today.

I would describe this movie as a collision course movie. You have 4 disparate groups on a collision course that culminates in the finale. Scott, Hope and Hank want to use the lab to rescue Janet. Ghost wants the lab to save herself. Mobsters want the lab to sell. FBI wants to catch Scott violating his house arrest and to capture Hope and Hank. A very keystone cops scenario of yesteryear.

For the most part, I enjoyed this movie, but everything in the first movie landed better. I found the first movie to be funnier. I bought into the relationship between Scott and Hope more in the first movie. Their sexual tension and chemistry felt more genuine to me in the first movie. I also felt the relationship between Scott and his daughter felt more real in the first movie. Scott's entire house arrest montage played like a sitcom to me.

Additionally, I found this movie to be very exposition-heavy. There were a couple of scenes that were straight up explanovision. I think the script overall was mediocre. I even felt the actors at times had a hard time selling some of the lines.

Now for the good parts. Evangeline's Wasp kicks much ass. They really made her a bad ass. Her ability to fly, her grasp of shrinking and growing, her martial arts skills, and her overall competence as a hero really shined in this movie. Michael Douglas was fantastic as usual. He didn't have a front-and-center role, often on the edges of the frames, but in what opportunities he was given, he took full advantage. Michelle Pfeiffer in her brief appearance was amazing. I can't wait to see more of Janet in future MCU movies. David Dastmalchian gave me the best laughs. He was the best comic relief in my opinion. The trio of Pena, T.I. and Dastmalchian have been used really well in both movies.

Action was also amazing. Shot amazingly well. I especially appreciated Peyton Reed's and the visual effects team's ability to seamlessly shrink and grow Antman. Whether it was a 3-foot tall Scott running in oversized clothes or a 65 foot Antman in the bay, the visual worked naturally and seamlessly. Wasp's fight scenes were fast but not frenetic. I was able to follow exactly how she was executing her skills. Although we lose sight of her, we never lose sight of what she is doing. This couldn't have been easy for Peyton to achieve. He deserves a ton of credit for this.

Within the pantheon of MCU films, this is definitely the most comical, a purposely campy and jokey movie. Surprisingly though, I actually had more laughs in movies like Guardians of the Galaxy, Thor Ragnarok and Avengers Infinity War. Too early for me to rank this movie within the MCU. Presently, it isn't a top tier Marvel movie. It sits between the middle tier and the bottom tier for me. I enjoyed it, but I think it could have been better. I would give this movie a very solid 7.5/10(using the tomatometer scale).

Tha_crack_fox ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:50:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was dope. Tim and Eric reference was the best part.

captainsuckass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Where was the Tim and Eric reference? Other than Tim on the boat.

Tha_crack_fox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Like 5 minutes before that Scott mentions something about his pep-pep.

Paul Rudd has also done a skit on the show before https://youtu.be/maAFcEU6atk

number1lakeboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tim was in the movie too haha I cracked up seeing him on the ferry.

justanothercucumber ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:06:55 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why would they decide to experiment with the quantum realm during an alien invasion?

But yea, definitely a solid and hilarious movie. Stoked for Peyton!

NotSayingJustSaying ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:58:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's a good question....

Vrylox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:18:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sure they didn't know all the Thanos stuff was happening. I'm guessing that Infinity War all happens in the space of around 3h, just around 30m more than the runtime of the movie, it seemed to all be happening in the same time as the movie was going on. In this case, Ant Man and The Wasp happens over 3 days. We also know that this post credits scene takes place about 1 week after that. So let's say that the New York Battle happened 2 hours before Scott went into the Quantum Realm, I'm sure it'd take more than 2 hours to set up that portal in the back of Luis' van, so let's say they were putting the portal into the van, and not looking at the news. So, they didn't know it was happening.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:07:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i just saw this today and got hit by the feels due to real life experiences from the touching scene with scott and cassie. but was wondering if anyone had the quote where he said that what he does hurts her and that he always messes things up. please and thank you

qqtan36 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:54:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was confused as to why Scott didn't just use his old suit that actually works as opposed to the new, malfunctioning suit. Also, earlier in the film Hank mentioned that he actually did implement laser shooting in Scott's suit. Why didn't they expand on that topic? I might've missed a few things that would've answered these questions.

Cruzader1986 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:10:45 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

the old suit wouldn't work without the part they took apart to make that thing to track down the lab. Hank mentioned he had that technology available but never implemented it for Scott.

971365 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:19:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They needed to get the suit for a specific component it had right? Maybe the suit couldn't function without it

pointlessone ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:14:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When they pulled the regulator, the old suit sparked out and smoked. Given they were in a rush through the entire movie, I don't think they had the time to fix it. Also, Hank is a complete dick to Scott and likely thought it was funny.

P1SONET ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:07:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I hate the mulfunctioning suit so much.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:30:56 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked it. It forced him to go through scenarios at a given size instead of just changing size to solve all of his problems.

rdardi123 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:10:02 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i liked it at the school when it made him tiny, but hated it during the final fight!

cjfl ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:27:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Idk about you guys but Janet kinda reminded me of a Jedi when she was harnessing the quantum energy the way she did.

Marvel and Star Wars crossover?

patgeo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:39:36 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought she straight up stole Rey's outfit while in the quantum realm. Maybe she found the midiclorians and studied with them.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:19:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why would Marvel want to be brought down to Star Wars level? After ROTJ all the SW movies have either been bad or bland.

CriticalDog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:09:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I see your point, but I fundamentally disagree, if only for Rogue One which was an outstanding film.

Pm_me_ur_Butt_stuff ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:26:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I did enjoy this movie alot, but it was so hard to watch after infinity war. IW was so dark and brutal whereas this one was so light with a semi insignificant conflict. I do wonder though, can Ghost still use her powers? She could put up a real fight against the purple crimson chin

sweetcuppingcakes ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:30:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm glad the stakes are so much smaller (heh) in the Ant-Man movies. If every threat is bigger and badder than the last, it just gets exhausting.

muhash14 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:11:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have to imagine yeah. In the mid-credits scene Scott was gathering the energy for 'their new friend Ghost'. I imagine that means she needs to be replenished now and again in order to remain stable.

cokeiscool ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:39:48 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They made it seem like she could, given the fact they need to get the quantum healing energy which makes it seem she isn't 100% cured.

ihatefruitfliez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

not really, she'd be useless.

Vision has essentially the same power

Pm_me_ur_Butt_stuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:03:40 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but vision also had a glaring weakness.

Lucifeces ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:28 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like this would have aired and worked so much better before IW.

I know that's not a simple, easy change, but if that same movie had come out 2-3 months before IW I think we all would have liked it more and it could have set up some real tension... Like the post credits scene. Don't actually show them fading away, but show the hanging walkie-talkie mic etc...

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:30:23 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was a really fun enjoyable movie

But

The stakes were low; I thought someone was guna get killed off

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:58:20 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Michelle Pfeifferโ€™s character almost died, but I agree. This is definitely the same tone as the first Antman, more light hearted and fun but with some stakes (the first one the yellow jacket almost kills Cassie and Scott goes quantum to save her). Marvel films just donโ€™t do death really and love there fake outs. Even with Infinity War you know they are gonna get everyone back (minus Heimdall and Loki probably)

Cinemaphreak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:27:13 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Uh, Yondu?

Also, Gamorra went before "the snap" so she's probably gone for good (plus, Zoe kinda slipped up in an interview and said the it was strange to be out of the MCU after spending 5 years in it). Additionally, while Marvel was upfront about Spider-Man, Dr. Strange and Black Panther sequels having their main casts back, they & James Gunn are being very cagey about GotG Vol. 3. IIRC Gunn even said that the casting & story of Vol 3 won't be announced until after A4 comes out.

Final, real, gone-for-good deaths are coming in A4. That was the beauty of the IW ending: the three that everyone swore would be the "big death" at the end (Tony, Cap or Thor) were among those spared. Feige has said repeatedly that A4 will not only close out Phase 3 of the MCU, but the MCU itself will be changed after it (personally, I think they should call it a "Volume"). Marvel seems to be very aware of fan chatter and playing with expectations, so the ending of IW was most likely a feint and A4 will end with Tony and probably Cap gone after they bring the rest back.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:07:09 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah of course Yondu, and anyone else who died before IW. I just mean the snap will be reversed and anyone who was taken by it will come back. Gamora is a tough one, a huge part of the GOTG. That โ€œslip upโ€ could be intentional to throw off the public. Her soul is in the soul stone dimension or whatever, so itโ€™s possible they could bring her back. Or maybe trade a soul for a soul (Thanos maybe).

And yes, I foresee some major deaths in the next avengers, the older main characters for sure. Most likely Cap and Tony as the actors have expressed interest in being done. I donโ€™t see Thor after the success of Ragnarok but who knows.

Kadexe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:02:19 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was certainly a high stakes movie. Ghost, Janet, and Scott could've died, Janet (and Hank) Pym could've been lost in the quantum realm forever, and Scott could've gone to prison. There were more than enough deaths after Black Panther and Infinity War.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:02:46 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Like I meant, no one died.

KrishaCZ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:30:51 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:58 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes I know that 3 die but

Itโ€™s very likely they will come back

Thatโ€™s my guess anyways

mershnack ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:27:49 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm surprised at how much I disliked this one, since I'm a big fan of the series and quite enjoyed the first antman. For me, it ultimately comes down to the fact that I can't think of a single character who has development or an arc in this one. Scott never faces punishment for trying to balance being a hero and being a 'good person'. Hope doesnt reveal much of anything about her character in this one despite playing a larger role. Hank doesn't suffer for creating demons in his past professional relationships. Nobody loses anything here, and whatever they desired in the first place is granted without question by the end. They do not learn from mistakes or grow as characters really

RedKingRising ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:24:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're not wrong.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:23:40 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

this is the problem with marvel movie storytelling. No consequences for any poor decision

mershnack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't quite say that, the whole point of avengers 2 was fallout for tony making an AI, and subsequent films are still exploring those consequences through the sokovia accords

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:03:53 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

what fallout did tony truly receive for Ultron? shouldn't he have been charged with mass murder and locked up for life?

mershnack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:07:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean he did loose the avengers, his relationship with cap and others. And lost his free will as a hero too (for a time.) Whether or not it was severe enough is up in the air, since he is also extremely popular for saving the world like 4 times

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:19:36 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean he did loose the avengers, his relationship with cap and others. And lost his free will as a hero too (for a time.)

do you really believe that those are "consequences" equal to the death and destruction he created with Ultron?

mershnack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:39 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For a fictional guy who routinely saves the world? Sure I do

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:19:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I actually really liked it. I hated the first ant-man, and this in general is an improvement on all fronts. Paul Rudd is doing less of a "hey I'm Paul Rudd playing a character" and is actually Scott Lang. The movie was generally funnier, the villain had interesting motivations if one note, and the action was so slick. It really felt like a live action rendition of a 2000s superhero TV Movie. It's not gonna blow you away or do anything that well but in general it's a solid film that has a unique tone for a Marvel Film and does it well.

Also, it's so refreshing to see there was never a big twist in this movie. They set it up and it played out. Done. My only major complaint is that his wife being a mcguffin to heal the girl was kinda lame but whatever.

jaycatt7 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:40:45 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie was fun and light on its own merits, a welcome change from Infinity War, whose warmth and humor felt like whistling in the dark. I wish they'd left off the last two scenes--they felt like they were in service of the larger franchise at the expense of the emotional tone of this particular movie.

Also...

Does anybody know about the making of the animated toy scenes at the end credits, just before the first Infinity War tie-in scene? Everything I try to google keeps coming up "the post-credits scene explained!" or "buy our toys now!" That animation looked like it took a lot of work. I might have to buy it on disc and hope for an extra little feature on it.

Mr-Chewy-Biteums ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:07 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was it animated? I could be wrong, but my recollection is that it was static miniatures.

Thank you

jaycatt7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:15 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, it was animated to the extent that the camera panned around the static figures. I couldnโ€™t tell if they were physical objects they had created or virtual.

LusciousApparatus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Are you talking about all the miniatures? I donโ€™t think it was animation but actual miniatures. Maybe some cgi drawings but the only thing that looked like it was moving was the camera and the credits.

jaycatt7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, those!

AssertiveDude ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:03:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Marvel has done it again! It was so funny and full of heart

fede01_8 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:18:53 on October 30, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Forgettable. Didn't LOL once. Not as funny as Ragnakok

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:29:54 on November 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're bad at watching movies then. Shame

LifeOfCray ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:28:42 on November 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

IT really isnt good

[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 22:18:17 on November 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's funny how easy it can prove you wrong, pal. I think that it is good, so your statement of fact can not be true. If it weren't good at all, I couldn't think it is.

Maybe you don't like it.

LifeOfCray ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:50:27 on November 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

fuck off twat

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:40:00 on November 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ok.

I'll go watch it again.

It's that good.

brady2gronk ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:27:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was there any big sequence NOT shown in the trailers? The salt shaker, the Pez, the van flip, the Giant Scott in the water, shrinking the lab- even the very last credits scene....Save something for the paying customers!

Alertcircuit ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:02:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree, the ant playing drums would have been way funnier if it wasn't in the trailer.

sugar_free_haribo ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:48:21 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dont watch trailers

brady2gronk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:54:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Am I supposed to walk back out of the theater if I get to a movie early?

2TrikPony ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:21:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Donโ€™t watch movies

RedditUserCommon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:17:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. Or cover your eyes and ears.

Really easy solution to this. Lol

CaptainLang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:40:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I lower my eyes and rub my ears to block out sound. I know I look incredibly silly but trailers reveal too much.

NookanCranny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:07 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I stare at the floor or my phone while they are on.

pidgerii ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 06:25:45 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was largely un-impressed. Most of the action bored me, the characters continue to feel like caricatures and the my biggest gripe is Ant-Man is largely sidelined so that we're all supposed to marvel at how cool and awesome Wasp is, allegedly.

I did like the mid-credits scene and was hoping we'd get something along those lines.

Very middle of the road effort in my estimation.

SomaliRection ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:57:09 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's weird, I read a few reviews afterwards and they all said the exact opposite of what you're saying, in terms of criticism. They said they felt there was too much Ant-Man and not enough Wasp for it to be called Ant-Man and the Wasp.

I thought the Ant-Man to Wasp ratio was perfectly balanced...y'know...as all things should be...

Collegenoob ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:58:02 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not really. The movie is called Antman and thr Wasp. There are 2 generations of each. Hank, michille, then Scott and Hope.

So focussing on any of them counts.

pidgerii ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 11:24:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

with very little ant-man and too much wasp.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:21:57 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man sidelined?? The whole damn movie is framed through his perspective. Wasp hardly got to do anything!

saltshiner ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:41:17 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

they really ruined the movie by not investing in AntMan. Such a sad thing to see him not even be that relevant

Slavicinferno ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:28:51 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wasp was awesome in it. You're watching the wrong movie. Ant-man is supposed to be light, comedy adventure. Not epic like Infinity War.

pidgerii ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:35:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

At what point did I compare the two, or disparage it for a being a light-hearted movie? You've created arguments out of thin air that have no basis in anything I posted earlier. The movie bored me - the action, the jokes, the so-called characters bored me. That's got nothing to do with genre or niche the movie occupies, only that the production failed to entertain me!

Slavicinferno ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 13:00:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah what I said. You're watching the wrong movie. The first one bored me to death bc I went in with EXPECTATIONS of an epic marvel movie. This time I went in without those expectations and really enjoyed it.

ultimate_spaghetti ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 07:11:33 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Go hate some other movie, this was great!

TaiVat ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 10:19:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What a ridiculously childish comment. So he didnt like the movie and posted rational calm criticism on why and that's "hate" just because you liked it ? This is why people hate fanboys.

PresidentTieg ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:00:47 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think it was a solid 6-maybe-7 out of 10, science mumbo-jumbo became a little entangled in itself at times and the ending felt slightly anti-climactic, but the humor from Rudd and Peรฑa was great as always, as well as FBI agent Wu. The emotional heart of the film left a little to be desired, but Iโ€™ve probably got my expectations too high following Infinity War. Overall I got what I hoped for out of this flick: an entertaining romp that didnโ€™t take itself too seriously. Also I knew going into it that the end credits scene would be something of that nature and it still hurt.

Whowutwhen ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:34:53 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How much time elapsed from when Thanos ships got to earth and the snap? I feel like Pym and Co would have been looped in on world ending doins, and they just kept on with their science project?

kaprrisch ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:55:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As far as regular-ish people on Earth goes, there was a brief alien attack in NY, the Avengers fought them off, and they left. They don't know what's going on in space or in Wakanda. So as far as they're concerned, crisis over.

smokefan4000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Until half of them die.

kaprrisch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well obviously. But that happens out of nowhere and almost immediately, so there's no anticipation of "doom" is my point.

Zer0Fucks2Give ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:58:45 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who was going to call them? Pym seemed to want to stay out of the Avengers affairs (in the MCU, I mean), and in any case was still a fugitive following the Sokovia Accords. (And Cap says in IW that Ant-man is on house arrest still -- he could have been mistaken, but it does explain that he was not interested in recruiting him again)

Mddcat04 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:08:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The only thing that people would really notice is the ship in New York. It appears, messes some stuff up, then disappears with Iron Man. This takes about 15 minutes, way too fast for anyone to react to. The one in Scotland appears similarly briefly. When they come in force, they come to Wakanda, which obviously wouldn't be covered by the news. So essentially, they would have just heard about the first ship in New York, and have no idea that there was more coming.

CantFindMyGoggles ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:34:44 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone else get the impression there was a lot of stuff left on the cutting room floor?

Luis "heard stories about the ghost lady that attacked them" literally between their first encounter with her and them driving over to X-CON and before they even knew it was a girl in the suit?

Then they stop off at the college and head over to her house and they are suddenly referring to her casually as "Ghost"?

AbanoMex ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:53 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

also Michael Peรฑa character at first thought the Ant was scott, but then later acted normal when he talked to scott.

[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 07:09:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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nttrung1611 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:50:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you want critical discussion in a Marvel movie thread, gotta sort by controversial

Nude-Love ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:18:49 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I enjoyed the film, but fucking hell, nobody in marvel discussion threads EVER actually discuss anything. They just quote lines from the movie nad that shit really needs to stop.

Mr-Chewy-Biteums ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Speaking of creativity, this movie felt so uninspired. Forget film as a visual medium, lets just do the same stock-standard camerawork for every fucking scene!

Interesting. I felt quite the opposite. I was overjoyed to have mostly steady shots after the near-constant hand-held camera in IW.

Thank you

sterob ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:47:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It is a classic safe funny-action movie from Marvel. There won't be much drama or cinematography.

Swisskisses ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:51:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hi, upvoted you for discussion sake but I really canโ€™t agree with any of your points.

I think that marvels whole show is that itโ€™s a film given to you with comedy, action, inspiration and drama. There are definitely memorable set pieces, the cars, the pez, the office.

I understand you donโ€™t like the movie, but maybe you were just in a bad mood when you saw it? Because every point your making can be combated with some hard subjective points.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:48 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Swisskisses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:34 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You have a lot to unpack. And itโ€™s pretty early, but I think the biggest point was your issue with exposition. I didnโ€™t feel like too much was being overwhelmed. They worked the comedy of the situation with everything they were saying.

When you have an actor like Paul Rudd you play up his strengths and I think you did that well. I suggested you were in a bad mood because of the overwhelming dislike you presented in your comment. Believe it or not it totally affects the way you receive a film. But youโ€™re right maybe you just didnโ€™t like it.

You liked the first one?

gtsgunner ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:22:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah this was kinda how I felt. It was like one of those movies that's just kind of there as a movie. Like your basic bitch B movie. Nothing was really memorable and the story felt kind of forgettable. It sucks because the actors were all really on point. Really felt more like a screenplay/story and maybe director issue.

_Moz_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:11:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think you hit the nail on the head, seemed like a very boring, linear plot, and comedy did not land...

CoDog ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:22:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I went in having low expectations and walked away slightly disappointed, the villains were boring, the only comedy bit that landed for me was Pena's story telling shtick (always good), the action was good but yeah I agree there was little to no creativity to the set pieces for the movie than made the first movie stand out.

I was expecting the story element tying this to infinity war to be a bit predominant than a mid credits scene, oh well.

ImDirtyDan18 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:13:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed on pretty much everything

Midwest__Misanthrope ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:11:53 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I thought this was a pretty standard movie. I really dislike people giving it a pass because "oh it's just a silly Marvel film" you do know just because it's silly that doesn't mean it couldn't have been written better ECT ECT.

senforr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, with you on this one.

adamekjd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with most of your assessment. There were a few memorable action scenes like using the truck as a state board. I definitely thought the movie was pretty vanilla but no where near the worst MCU film. Thor 2 holds that one forever in my book.

18092014 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:00:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For what it's worth, I'm a much younger viewer (<20) and I have to say that I enjoyed the comedy in this film a lot. Sure, it wasn't amazing quality banter but it was a safe film for Marvel and considering the younger viewers laughter in the audience when I watched the film, they absolutely adored it.

Sometimes we have to consider that the films don't always have to be perfect 100% Metacritic films. Now, the fanboys are just as wrong but I think that critiquing all of the minutiae of this film won't get us anywhere either. Infinity war is the film we wanted, so I'm glad that there's a happier film for the kids to watch too.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:36:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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18092014 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can understand why you say it's not funny but I don't think that you can say that the film doesn't deliver on action. The action in the film was really good, especially the scenes with Hope in them. The scene towards the end with the car chase was awesome too, you can't deny that. What more can you ask for?

[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 12:22:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

EDIT: do people MCU fanboys really have to downvote this? cmon guys. This is a discussion thread; its the whole point to have contrasting opinions.

Yeah they do, they can't handle someone not saying their great mcu films are perfect in every way.

GarMek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ironic cause your comment is getting downvoted and the original comment is getting upvoted.

gettodaze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:40:16 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He could save others from downvotes, but not himself.

DjangoZero ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:40:16 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's at 39 upvotes now. Maybe you wanna wait a bit before you get all reactionary?

[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 03:47:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Two villains that were so bad, nothing needs to be said. An incredibly thin, dumb, generic plot with some horrible dialogue and an absurd basis by which the story establishes itself - that these heroes are just put on house arrest and some dopey agents are there to keep track.

Just a shocking movie. It is unfathomable to me just how bad Ghost was, and the "1 billion dollars!" Cartoon character of a villain whose name I'm forgetting. It also didnt help that 90% of the jokes fell flat. Far and away the worst film on the MCU.

DungBettlesMan ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:38:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Careful. This sub will downvote you to oblivion for not liking a Marvel movie

antonimbus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:16:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A lot has been said already, but holy smokes are there a couple huge info dumps in this film. At the midway point everything comes to an absolute screeching halt as we get Ghost's origin, and toward the end of that exposition it's almost as if the writers realized "Oh, nothing is going on, let's put in a joke here" to cap it off. There's a lot of run-time devoted to exposition in this movie.

TheSpiderWithScales ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 13:18:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There really isnโ€™t, and the film even pokes fun at the exposition it does lay out. You call a 2 minute origin story a screeching hault? Jeez.

slin25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The movie has pacing and tone problems but i don't think it's due to exposition.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:07:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Finally, we had a big screen debut of Ghost Rider in the MCU!

TheEthnicFalcon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who was Ghost Rider? I don't remember that.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:35:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost riding a bike. It's stupid joke.

TheEthnicFalcon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I see. Yeah that went right over my head.

estacado ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:33:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

First they mention Baba Yega, then Laurence Fishburne shows up. I was expecting John Wick to pop up soon after. Disappointed.

The best scene of the movie was the mid credits scene. The only scene that stirred up excitement in me. Everything that came before that was just okay. None of the jokes were LOL funny, just a chuckle here and there. If you've watched the trailers, the actions scene were nothing to wow about. You know what to expect.

The plot constraints felt very tacked-on to artificially up the intensity. We have this machine, but we need one more component. We can get her back, but there's a time range limit. Ghost has two weeks, but can't wait a few hours to let Pym do his thing.

I wasn't bored, I was entertained. But this was a very safe by-the-book movie. It's not pushing boundaries like the more recent Marvel movies do.

OobaDooba72 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:39:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think its fine that it didn't push any boundaries. We just had Infinity War, huge crossover event, major things happening, major deaths, major developments, etc.

AMATW was a perfect light-hearted breath of air. Ant-man was the same after Avengers 2. I think this is the perfect way to use what is definitely their silliest series.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:58:26 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We can get her back, but there's a time range limit. Ghost has two weeks, but can't wait a few hours to let Pym do his thing.

Didnt they want to extract her energy while being in there? Thats why she couldnt wait, from my understanding.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:17:45 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think they thought that once Janet came back, they would be unable to use her to fix Ghost.

rdardi123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

totally agree with this comment ! i had the exact same sentiments

ObsiArmyBest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I do agree that it felt slightly like a promotional teaser for Infinity war part 2

Bling2049 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:08:47 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In many ways Ant-man and the Wasp was a breath of fresh air. Much of the reason for it being generally well received has to do with the context within which the movie has released- it follows the socially conscious morality tale of Black Panther, and the emotionally draining show down of Infinity War. The welcoming light heartedness of the Wasp is its biggest pull.

Do you remember audience reactions of MCU movies prior to 2018? There were a slew of youtube videos and comments decrying the lack of "stakes" in the MCU, complaining that the franchise relied too heavily on quips and gags failing to actually conceive a resonant story. Taking this into consideration, imo Wasp would not have been received as well as it has, had it been made and released earlier, 2015 say. The same complaints about it's lack of stakes would have left it lower in the pecking order.

I'm a big fan of the original Ant-man. It took a goofy preposterous concept for a hero and coupled with narrative warmth and innovative action set pieces, crafted one of the most entertaining movies in the franchise. In its wake, I think Wasp retains the warmth and innovation, even overdosing on both. While the original had a straightforward narrative and served as a clean origin story for the titular character, Wasp has just too many characters to remain cohesive throughout. The plot is very loose and weaves its way into and out of tight spots and deus ex machinas, with warmth and breeziness given first priority.

The concept behind the villain Ghost was a fresh one. She's given a compelling backstory to boot. However her supposed means of resurrecting her normal self was weak. It's stated that Janet having spent 30 years in the quantum realm has somehow gained its powers, but the other characters have no sensible way of knowing this with any reasonable amount of certainty so as to concoct a plan on it. Also they claim that they'll harness her power and save Ghost whilst killing Janet. There is a neat moral conflict created but it does feel highly manufactured. It was also slightly underwhelming to see Janet simply revive Ghost on her return. It stays honest to tone of the film, but to have the pioneering conflict of the movie resolved so clumsily was unconvincing.

Also, Laurence Fishburne is a fantastic actor and any movie is better off with him than without, but I felt his character was unnecessary. While his character definitely does things, the most notable of which is his admonition of Ghost's proposal to kidnap Cassie, a more efficient screenplay would have done away with him and incorporated his actions with the plethora of other characters. This in no way diminished Fishburne's work with the character but he was never an integral part of the story.

One of the most inventive aspects of the first Ant-man was its all out inclusion of ants as a focal point in the superheroes arsenal, him teaming up with the ants in a variety of ways. The sequel has a notably reduced role for the ants, and also does not feature any actual wasps(though I do agree those insects are too damn nasty to be playfully included in the story). The fun action set pieces could have benefited further with creative use of the little critters.

Given that Janet spent 30 years in complete isolation I was hoping they'd explore her experience their in better detail. They could do so much with this old Janet. It would be entirely plausible if she in fact had forgotten the language, and a host of socializing skills that go with it. All the complexities of spending 30 years in isolation are dismissed casually, instead of perhaps capitalizing on it to provide a new character dynamic. Ofcourse any such decision would have again gone against the carefree tone of the film.

It's damn near impossible to dislike Wasp though, simply because of how inviting it is. There are so many light jokes peppered throughout; the movie doesn't have a mean bone in its body. It coasts along on sheer goodwill alone. Yes, it might not be the complete superhero movie experience, but given the gamut of movies the genre is inundated with, each movie can appeal to a different aspect of superhero lore. I know some of you might take issue with what I've said, but I truly believe it is possible to love something while acknowledging that it isn't perfect. Ant-man and the Wasp shows its cards up front and delivers on that promise.

Kadexe ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:44:45 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Show less

Who's review did you copy+paste?

Edit: Nevermind, he just pasted his own youtube comment lmao

Bling2049 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 07:37:07 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know why you would say that. Granted my post was too long, but I assure you I composed it myself. Does denigrating the authenticity of my post make you feel better about yourself?

Kadexe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:00 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's just a very weird thing to have at the end of your message

Bling2049 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 07:41:14 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know how that got there. It is now edited out. At the very least, thanks for bringing it to my notice, whichever way you chose to do it.

Edit: It struck me only now, but the "Show less" was displayed at the end of the post because I had originally posted an abridged version of this post as a comment on a youtube video, which I then copied here, which was when the "Show less" was also erroneously copied. With that cleared I hope the focus can be brought back to the content of post instead.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:26 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah no you are full of shit.

Bling2049 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:16 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why you got to be so rude

[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 05:30:49 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

why do you have to lie online? same reason.

Bling2049 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:01:02 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly not lying. I'm a film enthusiast and often post reviews on Imdb and occasionally comments on YouTube videos. The "Show less" was from there, as I said. The content of the post is 100% my own. I don't understand what's so hard to believe about that.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:18:31 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

everything.

Bling2049 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:16 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's obvious you've made up your mind already. But if you've any authenticity of your own you'd do well to atleast check my reddit profile.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:55 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would never do such a thing.

Bling2049 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:15 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Continue living in your own little bubble and make presumptuous allegations that make you feel better about yourself

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:32:39 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I will.

Bling2049 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:46:05 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Congratulations, turns out you're full of shit too

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:29 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

no waaaay

Nanobreak_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:59 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

God, aren't you just insufferable.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:50 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

takes one to know one

Lettuce-b-lovely ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:42:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was solid but more or less forgettable. Kinda like the first. Plus they piggy backed off the Michael Pena narration gag from last time which felt lazy. The quantum realm stuff was great. My favourite aspect was the care put into every character no matter how minor. The characters were all great and well acted. Solid 7/10 I reckon

inexcess ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:27:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The pena gag was fucking hilarious this time around too. I was glad they delivered.

blackgaylibertarian ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:01:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol, people loved the Michael Pena narration gag, that is why they did it again. It would be like saying "why was Tony Stark so crass in that movie, he already was in the last one."

Lettuce-b-lovely ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:02:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It felt different to me because youโ€™re referring to Starkโ€™s character. The narration was a specific gag. But yeah, even though it was recycled I still very much enjoyed it haha. Just an easy laugh is all

thesecoloursdontrun ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:33:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Brought a friend who hasnโ€™t seen any other marvel studios film. She really enjoyed that and felt it cause apparently Luis was right about what they call morrisey in Mexico.

1080TJ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:50:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The first movie had a certain charm to it, despite how closely it adhered to the Marvel formula. That feels lacking here. It also doesn't help that Marvel is fresh of the incredible hot streak of Guardians 2, Homecoming, Ragnarok, Black Panther and Infinity War. Easily their best run of movies to date. Despite their flaws, all those films have something that makes them interesting and worth rewatching - compelling villains, directors with a unique voice, etc. This feels like a return to the pleasant mediocrity of something like Doctor Strange. Meaning it's perfectly fine while it's on, and the powers make for some neat visual effects-driven sequences (smartly played for comedy here), but I'll probably forget most of it within a month. The post-credits scene does more to move the over MCU plot forward than anything in the actual movie.

Alertcircuit ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:01:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"A return to the pleasant mediocrity of Doctor Strange" is the perfect way to describe it, I think. It's not a movie I'm gonna recommend to my friends, or really rewatch, but it was fun in the theater. I don't regret my $13.

Props to Marvel when my biggest complaint about the movie is "it wasn't THAT good."

Altephor1 ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 02:09:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ragnarok was absolute trash, so it was refreshing to see a movie where the director understands how to balance tonality.

Megadoomer2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:23:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Absolute trash" is a ridiculous exaggeration, the sort of thing reserved for something like Catwoman or Fant4stic. However, the comedy did feel jarring at times, particularly at the start of the movie (where Thor was spinning around on the chains) and at the end (with Korg providing commentary that undercut the tragedy of the whole thing).

Altephor1 ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 02:23:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Absolute trash" is a ridiculous exaggeration

No, it isn't.

macrowive ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:57:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can't believe it took me this long to realize it but it hit me half way through this movie. Marvel movies are the American equivalent to Indian Masala films.

Kedararige ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:25:00 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thats why marvel films do so well in India

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:21:42 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That movie kinda sucked. There were some funny parts but the first one felt like it was more cleverly written. This really wasnt the right time for this movie to come out either, straight off the heels of Infinity War.

NookanCranny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:13 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I personally found zero enjoyment in Infinity War, and this next movie kind of was even more salt rubbed into the wound in terms of disappointment

slin25 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 16:50:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie was just boring, I don't know what it is, just never got into it and i love most marvel movies.

Luis was great though, he should have been in it more.

1337speak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:34:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love the Antman movies a lot more than other Marvel flicks because he's a superhero and dad. I really like the scenes between him and his daughter, the small talk with other characters like Agent Woo, him having hobbies - these small things more defined the universe which I at least appreciated. Whereas it seems like other superheroes just straight up fight all day every day.

slin25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with this, I'm a dad and some of the best scenes are with his daughter.

The agent stuff was okay for me? I dunno, he seems too dumb to have that position in the FBI. But i haven't really thought about it much. I think the problem is I don't feel a really connect to everything, the drama feels drawn out. My biggest issues with the movie come from the pacing and tone.

StayPuffGoomba ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:20:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldnโ€™t call it boring, but I left saying it was โ€œmehโ€. It was entertaining enough, but I donโ€™t feel I HAD to see it in theatres like the other Marvel movies. The most exciting part for me was the mid-credit scene. But yeah, I see where youโ€™re coming from.

KILLVINCE2016 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 14:15:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So these days whatโ€™s the difference between Stark, Thor, Ant-Man, Rocket Racoon, and Starlord (personality wise)?

Donโ€™t get me wrong, the movie was ok but the writing in the MCU is extremely mediocre these days. You can pretty much guarantee each scene will end with a joke, sometimes it works and sometimes it completely takes you out of the film.

TrueLink00 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 15:48:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Personality wise I think they are quite different. I don't even think they joke in the same way.

  • Tony is egotistical. He believes that he is always in control. Everything begins and ends with Tony--both good and bad. He makes jokes at his enemies as a way of showing superiority. This is a trait carrying over from his business work.

  • Thor is a leader. He's desperately trying to keep his team's morale up. His jokes are different. They are usually trying to make light of a terrible situation they are about to be in to make sure everyone will go through with it.

  • Scott is insecure. He feels out of place and tries to mask his insecurity with general light-heartedness. His jokes are usually not aimed at anyone, but just general goofiness. When he's doing something he's actually skilled at -- like breaking into a place to steal some shit -- he doesn't joke.

  • Rocket is damaged. He believes nobody out there can love him. As a response, he tries to push everyone away to prove his subconscious point. His jokes are cruel. They are targeted at people to try make them feel as bad as he does.

  • Peter Quill is a child. He's desperately trying to hold onto his past because it's the only connection to his humanity and his mother he has. His jokes are a form of superiority like Tony, but unlike Tony he's immature and doesn't know when to stop.

AdvocateSaint ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:06:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well said.

lotusscissors ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:16:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is a really, really excellent analysis. Bravo. Scott's characterization seems to fit Peter Parker pretty well, too.

SalukiKnightX ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:33:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It makes me want Scott and Peter to meet up.

KILLVINCE2016 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:24:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s reaching

2rio2 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:03:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tony is a sarcastic asshole.

Thor is a jolly big-hearted meathead.

Scott is a goofy quip machine.

Rocket Racoon is a sarcastic asshole.

Starlord is a goofy quip machine.

KylosApprentice ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:20:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And in the case of Thor Ragnarok it literally did that the whole movie.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:19:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't understand why people love that so much.

reehdus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget strange...

footfoe ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 02:46:48 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Marvel definitely bunted on this one. It was okay, but nothing special.

It felt really cheap. The plot had us going in circles, like they wanted to recycle sets. There was a lot of bland dialogue, that seemed like it was just there to eat up screen time. Pena and Rud were fun to watch, but that's about it.

undatedseapiece ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:36:54 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're not being overly critical, and you gave legitimate reasons as to what you enjoyed and didn't enjoy about the film, yet you're being downvoted like crazy. Fuck reddit sometimes

JediJones77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:40:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Would be fine if he was downvoted, but it's not fine for Reddit to make the downvoted comments disappear. That's just effin' stupid. It's a discussion board. It shouldn't stifle dissent.

seedala ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 08:57:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Judging from the comments here I guess I'll pass on this one. Sounds like a fun movie, but nothing that really excites me.

Ticklecage ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:55:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why would you ever look at discussion about a movie before watching it?

jdragon3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Especially when this sub is overrun with edgelords, contrarians, and wannabe film critics

PM_ME_CUTE_SM1LE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:04:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

same, im casually reading through the thread and spoilers even though I am a huge MCU fan and literally went offline for a few days before IW release to avoid spoilers.

While movie looks fun I am slightly bummed we get sidetracked in terms of story straight after IW. I know it sets up quantum realm which is very crucial to Avengers 4 but I would love some post - snap action from ant man in this movie

interwebbed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:34:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

well..it's not an IW movie so that's the point...

all the events in this movie is pre-snap still up until the credit scenes.

Other than that...it's just another Marvel movie with it's independent story line.

You want an IW movie you wait till A4 lmao, that's where you'll get all your post-snap action from ant man that you seek; they wouldn't give that away just yet.

This sets that up nicely tho.

It's a great movie.

xPekeTheBest ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:14:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Its really fun movie, had low expectations bud had a blast during the whole movie. Cast is great, suits look amazing, story is surprisingly good and overall its a really really good movie.

UnkeptBroom ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 10:09:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That is such a generic and predicted summary of a Marvel movie, not gonna lie.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:07:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, can take his comment to describe every single one of the MCU films, excluding Hulk maybe.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:21:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It really is, you're right.

americanvillan317 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:21:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yayyyyyyyyyy, Iโ€™m so happy this one is way better than the first. They took everything that made the first good and upped it with Rudd, Peรฑa, Lily giving really fun and exciting performances. Douglasโ€™s felt less phoned in also and thatโ€™s always nice but Pfeffer is really underutilized. The villain in this movie is also miles and when I say miles I mean light years better than the garbage one from the first film, and I actually found myself caring and rooting for her during a large portion of the film. The size of the story in relation to the rest of the MCU is also kind of refreshing to see, as this isnโ€™t as big as the others. This is pretty much what I wanted from the first movie but actually good.

Dallywack3r ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:11:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The shitty technobabble in this movie became incredibly frustrating. Also, why the fuck was Walter Goggins in this film?

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:24:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why do they have to put Quantum in front of everything?

Dallywack3r ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:28:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man, between this line and the quip about the Marvel Disguises, this movie leaned way heavily on the lamp shading.

Someguy2020 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:18:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because Walton Goggins should be in just about everything

GoesOff_On_Tangent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:16:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He was really just there as side villain to keep Hope/Scott busy during the climax, and also as comedic effect.

Someguy2020 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He was also there because he movie was significantly lacking in plot.

Dallywack3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The whole elementary school sequence was entirely unnecessary. Fun, but entirely unnecessary.

WonkaFansOnly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:48:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My favorite line in Age of Ultron is "the nano-molecular functionality is instantaneous"

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:23:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed on Technobabble.

It's responsible for the worst scenes in all recent MCU films from Black Panther(Shuri's Technobabble) & Thor Ragnarok(Banner's Technobabble) to Infinity War(Shur & Banner Technobabble).

Movies need to cut that shit out because it's not convincing and it immediately pulls me out of the film.

Dallywack3r ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:38:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shuri is the most annoying character in the MCU imo and it's entirely because of the god-fucking-awful technobabble prominent in her scenes.

Sauce_McDog ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:57:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What, you didnโ€™t like the awful, out of place โ€œwhat are thoseโ€ joke shoehorned into Black Panther?

Dallywack3r ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:00:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus I had actually successfully forgotten about that. God damn that character. I hope she got snapped.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:08:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No we are talking about techno-babble.

As in made up pseudo-science dialogue to make a character look like they're a genius or whatever. The problem is it never comes off convincingly.

NookanCranny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:46 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Omg racist for not loving every facet of Black Panther /s

gamemaniax ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:12:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ikr, he did a pretty good job being both annoying and a villain.

Dallywack3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But as a villain, he adds nothing to the film. Nothing! A five minute rewrite could eliminate the character entirely.

weaslebubble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but then you rewrite the entire conflict of the movie leaving a 2 minute plot.

Dallywack3r ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:50:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How 'bout that.

yom84 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:31:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So uhhh, how does Ghost not fall through the earth? Especially as a child, wouldn't she just phase herself right into the ground?

setsuna1f1seiei ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:04:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not gonna lie, watching the people talk about the movie made it really seem like the mid credits scene was shoehorned in. I think that it really undercut the entire movie. Also, I think it would have been better for Janet to survive just because they literally just found her. They had her casually throw out that "time vortex" line but I think having her around would have been a nice way to explore a character we just met as well as give a great way for this whole supposed time travel plot to happen. Overall though I think they could have started A4 with scenes like that similar to how they began The Defenders with all the different character stories starting out on their own.

AnonRetro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:37:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Infinity War sequel opens up ...

coltsmetsfan614 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:09:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

. ... ?

carolinemathildes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:03:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I actually was not a fan of the first one, and enjoyed this one more, I'd say. I liked Ghost quite a bit; maybe not the handling of all the exposition, but I really liked the way they filmed her and it's always nice to have a villain whose goal isn't "end the universe" but something on a much smaller, personal scale.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:31:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost just wanted to get the secret serum that cured her. Literally nothing else. She never changed once in the entire film, and then magically got cured. That is as one-note of a villain as you will ever see.

carolinemathildes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:11:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, so? If you read my comment, you'd see that her motivation is what I liked about her.

alienatedesire ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:19:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It performed as expected, not the best to date or better than IW, but good enough. I always thought Marvel's villains play a crucial role in determining how good the movies perform. It just felt slightly underwhelming, all things considering. Humor was spot on and not forced, unlike GoTG2.

caramelfrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Huh I kind of felt the opposite way. I thought IW performed as expected, not the best (Avengers/multiple superhero movie) but sufficient enough. Personally I thought Ghost's storyline, especially the ending, was pretty weak but in this movie the protagonists carried the show with the humor and ability to connect with the audience. I enjoy movies where I can connect with the characters on a personal level, Ant Man was that kind of movie for me

gtsgunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Huh I felt really different compared to you on this movie. I felt a lot of the humor was off for me. Like there were some genuine funny moments that I laughed at but there were also a lot of moments that were set up to be funny but just fell flat for me and the theater audience. I honestly laughed more in GotG2 and I didn't find that movie that great either.

I also felt like the Villains were piss poor in this movie which really made the movie feel as you said Underwhelming. This was the movie that made me realize and agree with that statement about marvel movies needing good villains.

Ghost was a decent antagonist but she wasn't much of a villain and the mob guy was just straight up cartoony. The movie never made me feel super invested in the outcome. I didn't feel enough tension within the movie itself and it's characters. The movie wasn't bad but it also wasn't exciting for me. Which brings me back to that underwhelming feeling. It sucks because I really loved the first movie which really thrilled me with excitement and then this one felt like it was just kind of going through the motions. It's better than the bad mcu movies like thor 2 and iron man 2. I'd even put it past GoTG2. But that's about where it sits for me. Just a bit past GoTG2. I feel like they could have done a lot better with the story of this movie but got complacent for some reason.

DCouri ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:13:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

During the mid-credits scene- Did anyone else expect to see the wasp? They kind of zoomed in on the ashes and I thought we would see that Hope shrunk down, surviving the snap unlike her parents

dustyshelves ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:53:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure there were ashes floating in place of all three of them though. If Hope survived, there would have been just two ash shadow things (?), right?

DCouri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

True. I gotta watch that part again

zombiereign ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely 3 ash clouds

MasterofSciFi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:18:04 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What would be really depressing is if she had her suit on just in case something happened, and after her parents got snapped, she shrunk. And we see the dust from Hank and Janet but then they pan down and show us the tiniest amount of it on the ground. That would make me cry.

ghostbuster55 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:37:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In theory, couldn't Scott use the regulator to regrow from the quantum realm, or is that not possible because of the going in through the quantum tunnel?

redname325 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:14:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think because he used the tunnel, which allows him to go to a fixed point, he probably wasnโ€™t wearing the regulator.

Wendigo15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:10 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's different suit. He may not know how the new one works

StayPuffGoomba ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:18:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s a possibility! Her first reaction on seeing her parents disintegrate would be to shrink and observe.

Bigb011 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:24:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She didn't have the suit on though

StayPuffGoomba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When she went in to the restaurant it didnt look like she had the suit on either. Who knows!

(I dont think they will do that though)

greatness101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:47 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It showed 3 different dust clouds though.

StayPuffGoomba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did it? I didnt count the clouds. See, Im wrong! Oh well.

Johnny_Holiday ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:15:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Okay this timeline is still bothering me. I just finished watching Civil War. Scott is in The Raft when Cap comes to break everyone out. Then we hear in Infinity War that Scott is under house arrest (which, side note, what kind of deal does Scott strike if they give him house arrest after breaking out of The Raft?). Infinity War happens and The Snap occurs right at the end. In Ant Man and the Wasp, Scott is under house arrest for his last two days. The movie ends, an undisclosed amount of time passes between the end of the movie and the after credits scene (there's enough time for Hank and Janet to go on vacation somewhere together and come back to start running their tests). But we see The Snap happen in the mid credit scene.

So, Cap says that Ant Man is still under house arrest and decides not to contact him, which would indicate that Infinity War takes place as Ant Man and the Wasp is happening. NY gets attacked and Scott and Hope figure they probably shouldn't go there to see if they need any help. Which is very odd because the last time an attack this big happened, it was the Chitauri invasion and you would think that Scott and Hope would want to help out anyway they can, even if it's just clean up of the city. But the New York attack, this whole movie, and the vacation all happen in a matter of two days? I have to be missing something here.

zeroxray ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:26:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well Scott is under house arrest for 2 years so infinity war could be happening anytime during.

Aftermath16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:11 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The point was that if Infinity War were happening during Scottโ€™s house arrest, then the snap and people disappearing would have happened in the middle of the movie, not during the credits.

Merlin_Shaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Except for in Infinity War, Falcon says they have been running for 2 years... that puts the events in Infinity War right along side this movie...

OscarMiguelRamirez ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:17:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So, Cap says that Ant Man is still under house arrest

He could have been mistaken and not realized he had just gotten out, or was generally referring to the fact that even if he was done with house arrest, he still had a plea deal that would have taken him away from his daughter if he got involved again.

Same as Hawkeye, they had families that needed them. I don't think this line proves a timeline. It was just one character explaining why two others were going to sit out.

Sorge74 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:47:56 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck you are right it doesn't add up. Even if you assume there is a time jump in IW, because they do fly from Europe to the US and to Africa giving a little time for the events to be playing out....and Scott to get off house arrest. there is zero chance they are conducting some experiment during the middle of the crisis after New York was attacked...they'd be geared up.

BUT BUT BUT there is a chance war machine just isn't fully up to date on Scott, and hasn't been keeping close tabs because he doesnt want to mess with his family life. He's not a soldier after all, he's just a good guy. So AM2 takes place before any of IW.

So the experiment to get the energy MIGHT had been so they could get ghost ready to fight after the attack on NYC in IW. That's the only way it makes sense.

Edit: also the after credit scenes don't always seem to be fully Canon, for example IM getting Thunderball Ross to join the avengers when IM2 seems him being rejected from the team

CrashB111 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:48:01 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Edit: also the after credit scenes don't always seem to be fully Canon, for example IM getting Thunderball Ross to join the avengers when IM2 seems him being rejected from the team

I always thought that scene was more Fury and Widow playing reverse psychology on Tony.

He is immature enough that the only way to make him want something, is to tell him he can't have it.

BenjaminTalam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:47:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They should have said he's on probation in Infinity War. Then it would all add up fine.

BobbyTomale ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:44 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have to be missing something here.

You aren't missing anything. You are just over analyzing cheesy action movies.

The writers probably just messed up a small detail.

oreo-cat- ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just figured the vacation happened after IW2

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

was mike Myers in this movie behind Iโ€™m hiedercker ?

Dont_Call_Me_John ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:19:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Saw it last night, wasn't exactly sure how I felt about it. Now having sat on it a bit, I really didn't like it much at all.

The best parts of this movie are:

  • a character quirk that's a callback to the first movie

  • an after-credits scene that just reminds us of how good Infinity War was

  • the acting performance of an actual 10-year-old

  • Paul Rudd pretending to be Michelle Pfieffer

That's pretty much it. Ghost's first scene set her up as like a deranged, desperate individual but once Laurence Fishburne shows up at the house she's just normal again. The big emotional anchor of the movie is supposed to be the mom but we've never seen her before and Hank and Hope are still cracking wise when they have 2 hours until they never see her again. It never feels real to them so why do I give a shit? And Scott is the main character we got to know in the first film and he doesn't give a fuck either. I was wayyyy more emotionally invested in getting Scott back home before Asian Jim could catch him so that Cassie wouldn't lose her dad than I was in Hank and Hope's plot.

And then we're supposed to just accept that Janet can touch Ghost's head and cure her? What the fuck? Hank said "we'll find a way together" to Laurence Fishburne and so I was expecting some big reunion sciencey plot beat where they save Janet and the old gang gets back together and experiments with the quantum energy to fix Ghost or something but no, just touch her head.

Idk, maybe I just wasn't in the right mood because I appear to be in the clear minority on this film. But, man, it was a big WHIFF for me, one the MCU hasn't had in a while.

I didn't love Ragnarok or GotG 2 as much as some, but I still really enjoyed both and I think Black Panther and Infinity War are legitimately great. The MCU, to me, hasn't struck out like this since Iron Man 2.

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:31:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The best parts of this movie are:

Scott's suit malfunctioning at the elementary school.

BrianWonderful ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just a point, Ghost is not cured yet. That's why in the mid-credit scene they are sending Scott back into the quantum realm to get more "quantum healing" particles. Janet just temporarily gave her some relief.

gtsgunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:52:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You described something I've been trying to figure out for a while. I cared way more about Scotts plot with the fbi and getting out of house arrest than I did about the pyms and their lost mom in bum fuck egypt. I really couldn't figure out why that was and you pretty much hit the nail on the head as to why.

sarmiento_hmr ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:50:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Funny movie throughout. But my cousins and I couldnโ€™t stop laughing when the mid-credit scene happened, so predictable.

Megaman1981 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:59:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why couldn't you stop laughing? It wasn't that funny of a scene.

sarmiento_hmr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:05:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The โ€˜I donโ€™t want to go Mr. Starkโ€™ meme also killed any impact it could have

NookanCranny ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:46 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol literally all impact was killed when they decided to make Black Panther and Spider-man fade to dust. Hurpndurp as if they aren't going to bring them back.

sarmiento_hmr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t know if Iโ€™m going to get downvotes, but the disappearing thing was so phoney in IW and is phoney in this one still. The way they framed it in this scene in particular was so predictable we were only waiting for it to happen so when it finally did, and only showed the remaining ashes, we couldnโ€™t help but laugh since it was such a foreseeable scene.

bryguy894 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You might

vloger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:58:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was going to be a more touching moment where we see scott lose both his love interest and daughter but when I realized it was happening in the mid-credits I was bummed.

Seal412 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:29:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If he had lost his daughter I think it would've been too much.

dwd3 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:07:52 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There were no less than 8 "dramatic" count-downs in the movie. Lazy writing at its finest:

*Fishburne to Ghost "You have a couple weeks to live."

*Fishburne to Ghost "You have days to live."

*"The security proposal is first thing in the morning!"

*"The vector shift in two hours will leave me lost until the next century!"

*"We only have 15 minutes in Quantum Space!"

*Lang leaves the university to beat Wu to his house.

*Lang leaves the lab to beat Wu to his house.

*Lang leaves the pier to beat Wu to his house.

That's my real criticism. My annoyed criticism is on the weird United-Nations, rag-tag group of Sonny Burch's thugs: he had big-tattooed white guy, Russian-mafia-type guy, very ugly Indian guy, I think he had a Native American driver in one scene, among other faceless bad guys. Since when has there been diversity quotas among bad guys?

edit - format and typo

ikanx ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:49:34 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The only countdown that bothers me was Eva's. Her "deadline" and event of the movie are so closed together. Other than that, I'm fine with it. Especially FBI vs Scott races, it becomes such a nice comedic moment.

Evilsbane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:38:17 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yup....

Oh, after 30 years this even convinced you to start trying to see if I am alive. Luckily you finish it after two years, luckily two hours before the deadline. Good timing that.

I could have forgiven it if it did something refreshing like "If you miss this chance it's going to be an entire year until you can try again."

dwd3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:28 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree FBI vs Scott racing home had it's place - it is the only one I was ok with. Literally putting "15:00" on a timer is silly.

whereismymind86 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:44:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One change I would have liked, the FBI bursts into the house, beating scott there...and crumbles to dust.

Was really hoping that would happen DURING, not after, and save the cast from some impossible situation in the process, maybe the big ring of FBI guys outside the lab start collapsing one by one, allowing hope and hank (or just one of them...) to escape, rather than repeating the escape sequence from the first movie. It was a nice callback but...you know.

Wulfenbach ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:35:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There was also a lot of "We need X!" to facilitate the plot. "We need a quantum doohickey!" "We need what's in Scott's head!" "We need to talk to Bill Foster! "We need an old suit!" "We need that Grandma trophy!" "We need access to our lab!" "X-Con needs to revise those plans with Scott!" "Oh no, they took all our stuff! We need it all back!"

JediJones77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

McGuffins.

dwd3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:17 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"We need Van Dyne's powers to fix Ghost's powers?" What?

Ghidoran ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:58:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

...Why is diversity in characters bothering you?

dwd3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It is so forced that it takes you away from the movie. If you want better on screen representation, show diversity in the FBI agents, the scientists, friends etc. Also, who benefits from diverse representation among bad guys? Are children in other parts of the world celebrating that someone who looks like them has a a bit part as a nameless thug on screen?

Ghidoran ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:57:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It really isn't forced at all. I guarantee the majority of people who watched the film didn't take note. I certainly didn't notice it (aside from the Indian guy).

show diversity in the FBI agents, the scientists, friends

I mean, they did. They had an Asian FBI agent and a black Dr. Foster.

Also, who benefits from diverse representation among bad guys? Are children in other parts of the world celebrating that someone who looks like them has a a bit part as a nameless thug on screen?

Diversity is diversity, doesn't matter if it's 'the good guys' or 'the bad guys'. You think all the bad guys should be white people? Come on.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sure there was an Indian or Native American kid excited to see someone that looked like them in a superhero movie. And remember, Marvel movies are seen by international audiences.

dwd3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:15 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed that these are calculated decisions, but to make sure BAD GUYS are represented by all races? Shouldn't those outreach characters be FBI agents and scientists?

simmer_tomato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:34:34 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Like Jim playing the FBI guy checking on Scott?

JediJones77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:39:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, look at who's in jail in real life. Lots of diversity to be found there.

Cravatitude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:51 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think there are at most 6 "dramatic" Count downs you give
1. Fishburne to Ghost "You have a couple weeks to live."
2. Fishburne to Ghost "You have days to live."
3. "The security proposal is first thing in the morning!"
4. "The vector shift in two hours will leave me lost until the next century!"
5. "We only have 15 minutes in Quantum Space!"
6. Lang leaves the university to beat Wu to his house
7. Lang leaves the lab to beat Wu to his house.
8. Lang leaves the pier to beat Wu to his house.
But 1 and two are the same countdown, it's just that time has passed, Ditto with 4 and 5. Both of these count downs make a lot more sense than having a timer on a bomb. 6 7 and 8 aren't really countdowns, I don't know exactly what they are, (race conditions maybe? ) and number 3 is a deadline. So no less than 2 dramatic countdowns and maybe as many as 6

dwd3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The entire movie takes place in at most 3 days. Ghosts countdown to death changes for no apparent reason. The "vector shift" was given by Van Dyne as a 2 hour deadline. I seem to recall the 15 minute countdown being the safe amount of time for Pym to spend in Quantum space, but I could be wrong. I am just pointing out that characters constantly saying "we're running out of time!" is lazy writing to heighten drama.

xRadec ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:31:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'd rate it 6/10. I find it the weakest in phase 3 so far.

That mid end credits though..

kdawgnmann ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought Dr Strange was weaker, but I'd agree on the 6/10. Pretty average as far as Marvel goes. I liked the first Ant-Man a lot better.

Still enjoyed it, just expected more after how good their last few have been

ReallyRipley ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:08:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm glad everyone seems to be having fun with this film, but I just found it incredibly bland and void of any real thrills or tension. The script was weak, the performances were stilted and character interactions had an air of awkwardness to it that just made the whole film feel off.

I couldn't even really find enjoyment in the (very few) action sequences. The dynamic team-up combat of Ant-Man and the Wasp is only briefly showcased, and the remainder of the action is choppy, and surprisingly not as imaginative as one may expect, considering the film's intriguing size gimmick.

The many attempts at humour often fell flat for me, which is incredibly disappointing considering the comedic talent involved. I couldn't help but notice that the film screams "second-rate Marvel."

saltshiner ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 04:31:00 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

we can't get negative comments upvoted til about 3rd weekend. Marvel hires shills to downvote all negative comments as we saw with last jedi and solo

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:17:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was the perfect definition of a one time watch. Not gonna lie, this was kind of underwhelming, especially after Infinity War.

kenrile ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:07:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone catch that scene in the quantum realm where Hank's wife called him Henry? I don't know if I misheard her or not but I'm pretty certain she called him Henry

GT86lover ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 11:10:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

hank is short for henry i think

Mitraileuse ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:10:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dr. Henry "Hank" Pym

HendEh ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:10:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Henry = Hank.

5b3e87764e4f5b00145d ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:56:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Solid movie. But so forgettable. I'm not going to remember much of it next month.

pizzaisperfection ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

honestly, that's most of these for me. I always say they overwrite themselves in my brain.

here_for_news1 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:50:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This could have been an Agents of Shield episode or something, it feels like a plot that belongs on TV. They didn't need to set this after the end of Infinity War, but having a little more focus on events in the MCU in addition to saving Janet instead of just shoehorning in a character from the past out of nowhere as a villain. I mean that's an incredibly comic book thing to do, but man what a weird turnaround from IW.

Also haha holy shit did they just cut Ant Man out of the next Avengers movie as well? Maybe Tony finds him but it seems like they are setting him up to be absent for a movie and brought back in Ant Man 3.

MatrixPrime81 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:05:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No. Heโ€™s cleats in Avengers 4 as there are pics of him on set

here_for_news1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:12:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah good to know, guess Stark probably find him.

Passwordis12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How? Are there any working ships on Titan? Or does he awkwardly ask Thanos to send him home?

Woodsie13 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:55:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The GotG got there in their ship, that will be how he gets back.

Passwordis12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:01:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah. I forgot about that.

spicerackk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or Captain Marvel, or Dr Strange.. namely anyone else other than Stark is likely to find him. But it will be one of those two.

gettodaze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dr Strange is dead

spicerackk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How dare you!

DuplexFields ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:54:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This could have been an Agents of Shield episode or something, it feels like a plot that belongs on TV.

I thought that too... but I like Agents of Shield.

JoelTLoUisBadass ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:55:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So Avengers 4 is Tony and ant man time travelling to all the past movies and gathering all the gems before Thanos has a chance to do so and then they defeat a gemless thanos but not before future Tony and maybe future Scott die in some self sacrifice way and of course they change a few things like the death of the asgardians.

And just like that no one is dead and IW is meaningless. Did I forget about anything?

Bamres ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:29:00 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I see a lot of people really liked Ghost but I feel some of her dialogue and a tiny bit of her acting was a bit weak. The first scene with her telling her story felt like she was using the "Villian monologue voice" that sounded a bit odd to me and then the part near the end where she says something like "It hurts, It always hurts" just felt weird to me. It was still a decent villain story but with some weak points

chili01 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:38:51 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My theatre was so quiet despite being full.

I personally liked all the little puns and jokes that were consistently in the movie. My friends thought otherwise though.

Of course, I miss the directing/direction of the first movie (Edgar Wright)

edit* edgar wright did not direct

Stephen_Gawking ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:44:41 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not sure if this is joke.

Edgar Wright didn't direct the first one.

chili01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:37 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't he direct half of it or something?

Stephen_Gawking ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:48:32 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He got some writing credits and they probably used some scenes that he wrote in the final script but no he never directed a single scene.

chili01 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:54:27 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ah ok, thanks

warsage ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:16:26 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man is Marvel's big action-comedy hero. I'd have been disappointed if this one didn't have the same tone of constant humor as the first one.

Actually imo this movie was more serious than the first, not less. Ghost in particular was tragic and 100% unfunny.

LastCohenBro ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 11:43:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I find it fascinating people are down voting Criticisms of the film. I will admit, so the criticisms could be worded better , but hey! Itโ€™s the internet, what are you going to do? I think the fact that every negative comment about the movie is being down voted is indicative of the collective hive mind/cult-ish mind set around these movies. Iโ€™ve been reading comics for 20+ years and it still confuses me how this franchise has blown up the proportions that it has with the general population.** Ant-man & The Wasp is a mediocre movie / solid B or C movie. Itโ€™s fine. Nothing great...but I feel like people in this thread are denial about it due to the Marvel brand being slapped on it.

** I will never understand why people cheered for the pager scene in IW. The reality is maybe 2/3 people knew who Danvers was from the comics and was legitimately excited about that money. The other 20 were probably people who read internet articles about the Captain Marvel film and cheered in attempts to pass off how cool and โ€œin the knowโ€ they are about comics.

maradagian ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:56:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

80% of everything is shit, even fandoms.

LastCohenBro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:22:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Even Star Wars has become a shit fandom. I was not a fan of The Last Jedi but Jesus Christ, the guys who harass the actors and are petitioning for a remake are insane and make me hesitant to a.) voice my dislike of the Last Jedi & b.) associate myself with the fandom

maradagian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:04:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, like there's no real shit happening they could put their energy on "fixing". A work of art is in no obligation to be liked by you personally, i don't understand how people STILL can't get this very simple concept. Just go watch something else, man.

danbobsicle ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 12:32:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I will never understand why people cheered for the pager scene in IW. The reality is maybe 2/3 people knew who Danvers was from the comics and was legitimately excited about that money. The other 20 were probably people who read internet articles about the Captain Marvel film and cheered in attempts to pass off how cool and โ€œin the knowโ€ they are about comics.

Why does this even matter? Just enjoy the ride and don't worry about other people? No offense but this is kind of coming across as like, minor gatekeeping.

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:32:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why does people being happy make you so angry?

LastCohenBro ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:19:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

See my response above.

Also that statement over simplifies my frustration. My frustration isnโ€™t people being happy - itโ€™s people thinking they have to be the loudest to be considered the biggest fan.

writingt ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:21:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or maybe people just got done watching half of their famous funny friends die and were cheering at the idea of someone coming along and making everything okay again?

LastCohenBro ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:20:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This comment is sad.

Famous funny friends? Do you think Scar is also your uncle or your dad Darth Vader?

writingt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, they are not funny. You philistine.

Rietendak ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:56:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is the case with every thread on every big movie. If you look at the Black Panther reaction thread, positive reactions were downvoted.

Itโ€™s a result of reddits system, where people vote (up or down) only when they have a strong opinion about a post. When someone writes something thats kind of interesting, theyโ€™ll just read on. When they think YES!!! or FUCK YOU!!! theyโ€™ll vote. This leads to kind of hivemindy voting trends in the bigger subs.

The best thing is to just not let it bother you too much!

LastCohenBro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:23:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fully agree.

blackgaylibertarian ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:49:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"REEEEEEEEEEE"

yomuthabyotch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

people who read internet articles... and [cheer] in attempts to pass off how cool and โ€œin the knowโ€ they are

i know exactly who youre talking about! usually those obnoxious d-bags dont just act that way toward comics either. makes my fuckin skin crawl...

LastCohenBro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:21:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I asked my local LCS owner how many people actually pulled Carol Danverโ€™s book at the time of the film. Apparently only 4 people did.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:33:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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yoonchae ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:11:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sure it was that scene of Vision phasing through him, around his chest area, during the battle in Germany back in Civil War. I thought it was a great callback.

Chevron ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:15:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was thinking Temple of Doom.

FuzGoesRiding ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:11:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Kali maaaa

CallMeJono ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:31:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do animals and insects turn to dust when Thanos snapped his fingers?

drk_dnm ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:36:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I tend to lean toward the side that no, animals and plants were not affected. In the MCU version of Thanos, his explanation of his actions he was merely concerned with sapient beings that destroy resources without giving back. In his mind and this explanation,sapient living beings are his real issue. This also leaves one explanation as to why Rocket is the only Guardian left alive. Rocket is a Raccoon, an animal. Although Raccoons are smart as fuck in general they aren't regarded as sapient beings. Now Rocket by way of science and experimentation became sentient, genetically he is just a regular ol Raccoon. Although Groot is a plant, his species is very much sapient, even if they only ever say 3 words ever.

Edit: Changed sentient to sapient because it was a better word choice. Most animals are sentient, but are not sapient. Thanos' main concern seemed to be with people that use logic and reason and are aware of their actions but still destroy and overuse resources without replenishing.

twerk4louisoix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

so he's totally giving the finger snap to wild boar, kudzu, and ticks, right?

Adv2k169XLplusCats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:20:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t see why not .

WavesRKewl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Insects are animals

swng ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So are humans

SilverKry ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:18:53 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes.

MrNismoSans ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:03:44 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I enjoyed it as much as the first one. Too bad the trailers showed off all the action scenes though. I thought Ghost's phasing effect looked pretty cool throughout the movie. I think maybe just a little too much referencing to Civil War for me. I liked the approach that there's no real villain in this movie. I think my only gripe with the movie is that the finale felt a little weak, but that may be partly due to seeing it in the trailers. Overall pretty good, not it my top 5 for the MCU but I liked it way more than recent solo MCU movies like Thor Ragnarok and Black Panther.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:15:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was okay. Janetโ€™s character was such a disappointment.

ArchDucky ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:49:58 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why did they change what happened in Civil War?

For some reason Cap didn't rescue Scott off the Raft?

Somehow he had time to pack and ship his suit after the Airport fight?

Also Scott stole the suit from Hank, He even filmed him doing it. So why is Hank guilty by association?

Decilllion ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:05:49 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing changed. They say in Infinity War that Scott and Hawkeye chose house arrest over staying on the run.

He likely shrunk the suit and stashed it or Cap and crew liberated it.

There's no hiding that Scott used Pym Particles in public.

suchdownvotes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:31:23 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott couldn't run after Cap freed him and they gave him a deal because he's a man with a daughter and it drives the plot better than him going to prison

maybe he shrunk the suit to ship it

It's not hard to picture the government wanting Hank/Hope because Scott can't prove he stole the suit, also considering he was directly working with Hank in AM1

ArchDucky ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 14:02:07 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How would he have time to shrink and ship the suit? They had a fucking brawl at the airport. The authorities would have been on the way.

I don't think anyone on the outside of the situation in Antman would have know that Hank was involved.

cuttlefishcrossbow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:58 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think anyone on the outside of the situation in Antman would have know that Hank was involved.

Maybe Tony Stark told them out of spite?

KageStar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:21:45 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Hank said never to trust a Stark"

"Who are you?"

MrSlops ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:33:50 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Really wanted to like it but in the end it was very mediocre at best.

I was excited to hear that Ghost was in it, one of my favourite Iron Man villains, and I totally understand the need to give the character a better motivation (other than 'i like to cause corporate chaos by stealing stuff') but it felt very forced to have everything related (and not tied together in a good way, or with any exposition other than the character talking about the plot for a minute or two).

Action seemed poorly edited, and combined with one of the most mundane soundtracks to date (You know the car chase scene needed some Beastie Boys, the moment Hope reversed the van it should have busted out into Sabotage...or anything really with some energy to it) this really was forgetful (I think everything I will remember was found in the trailer, so i'll just remember that)

schubox63 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:43:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m sure Iโ€™ll get downvoted for this, but I was not a fan. Which is weird cause I really like a lot of the parts, but he sum didnโ€™t work for me. I think the script was fairly weak.

Rudd and Lilly have great chemistry. Pena and the X-Cons were hilarious. That last action set piece was fantastic. But I found a lot of the dialog really awkward and cringey. And the direction was really odd at times .

avidman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I found a lot of the humour really forced.

schubox63 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:25 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah and the Rudd as the Wasp scene seemed like he was playing it for laughs, but it was edited and came across as sincere. It was a weird mix

Blitz_Kid_48 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:17:52 on August 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just watched it. Boring and predictable with forced and annoying jokes. Worst Marvel movie in a while.

HoneyShaft ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:41:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm kinda disappointed. It felt really sloppy and rushed (doesn't help that the trailers show a lot of the action). The only scene that made me laugh is when Ant-Man (Giant-Man) breached the ocean.

NotSayingJustSaying ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:02:43 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pro tip: don't watch trailers for movies you're definitely going to see.

HoneyShaft ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Kinda hard when the last 5 films I saw played a trailer for it.

tictacti1 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 13:29:25 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm so confused... maybe it's because I typically don't like Super Hero movies, I thought the script was cheesy and the plot was scattered. There were some funny parts, but I don't understand what is so appealing about it...

Darkoonn ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 13:30:37 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A funny movie, light-hearted, about family, about friendship. Just a nice movie, nothing more. And this is what makes it so good.

tictacti1 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 13:34:54 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, there are plenty of light-hearted family movies that have great, witty scripts. IMO, this was not one of them. I feel like a kid could have written and directed this...

AckmanDESU ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:19:31 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t wanna be that guy but... Am I the only one who thought this was bad? Like worst marvel movie bad. There were a couple of nice scenes but no scene can make me enjoy 1 hour of fake science boring talk or the other million things I didnโ€™t like.

Judging by the comments this was amazing.

Honestly I didnโ€™t like ant man 1 and watched this just so Iโ€™d have something to do. I like every other marvel character buy this guy not so much. Itโ€™s not his fault really. Heโ€™s fine, itโ€™s the rest of the movie I dislike.

Chanfan02 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:05:06 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh wow, I couldn't disagree more. I thoroughly enjoyed the film and I have films like Iron man 2 & 3 and Thor 2 well below this film in terms of the worst Marvel films.

I respect your opinion though. Not everyone will enjoy it. Everyone seemed to enjoy Thor Ragnarok and I cringed at the bad jokes throughout half of the movie lol.

FGHIK ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:57:39 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's no universe where this movie was worse than Thor 2.

bestprocrastinator ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:44:47 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was personally one of my favorite MCU movies. Easily in the top seven for me. Yea you have to disconnect from logic a bit, but you have to to do that for every Marvel movie. The jokes hit, the action scenes were creative and entertaining, and I loved the dynamic between Lang and his daughter. In addition, a more grounded movie was exactly what Marvel needed after IW.

AckmanDESU ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:20:22 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think a big factor is the movies are getting more and more comedy focused. Characters start feeling like caricatures and I can't suspend my disbelief anymore because the stakes don't feel real.

Case in point:

  • FBI agents are dumb as a brick. They're incredibly tunnel visioned on the whole keep antman arrested but there's way bigger things happening. The way Randall Park's scenes went he looked like a moron and comedic relief.

  • You're telling me this gangster who has made a ton of money and has lots of contacts is also a moron who could've ended his arc the second ghost shows up but instead contributes nothing to the movie while adding to the mess that was the plot.

  • Ghost's motivations and conflict with antman made no sense. But what REALLY made no sense was the finger healing.

  • Talking about things that make no sense... This woman was trapped for 30 years in a place where time works differently. But she ages. But she's alive. But she's legit been there alone for 30 years. But her hair is perfect and she made herself a shirt out of... human hair? And they need a tunnel to go pick her up because it's impossible to get out of the quantum dimension... Except it isn't.

  • And this is the biggest problem with antman itself: this is all supported by the fact that their made up science works, but it doesn't. I can accept thor flying around and throwing lightning bolts because he's a god but if you're gonna change how basic physics works and you're not even gonna make sense within your own world then how do you expect me to get invested? Antman is a 80kg man who shrinks and SOMETIMES weighs 80kg and SOMETIMES he weights 2 grams, depending on what the plot needs. And that is only the tip of the problems with their logic.

Yes, I did like the kid and the action while not my cup of coffee could be entertaining enough. But the things I mentioned made me want to leave the room when watching.

JorahExplorer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:24:35 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Im not cold or anything, I laughed out loud the first Antman (which I love), Ragnarok (I died), Gaurdians, everything (though most of the jokes in GotG2 fell flat)! But I hardly laughed watching this movie. The entire theater was losing it and I'm just sitting there feeling like I'm watching on of the worst Marvel movies, and wondering if I was the crazy one

I heard this movie had very little post production (Feiges words), and it shows. It was just kind of a mess, and worse yet, all the world building they were doing with Goliath and the Quantam realm is going to have serious repercussions for the future of Marvel as a whole . . . and that worries me

TLDR - I loved Antman, and I found this movie to be a terrible mess

Djl3igh ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:23:48 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, you are not the only one. I thought it was shit also.

_fesT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:19:21 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, it's kind of hard to compete with Iron Man 3 and the atrocity that was the Mandarin.

AckmanDESU ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:03:13 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I legit like the first half of iron man 3 including the whole mandarin meme.

lego18las ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:34:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A fun movie, but ultimately useless. The whole of the movie means nothing in the long run and it's clear with him stuck in the quantum realm how he'll factor into the next movie.

Inksplat776 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 11:43:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didnโ€™t you kind of contradict yourself though? The whole of the movie means nothing...but the whole movie leads to whatโ€™s going to be a major point of IW2?

Leo_TheLurker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean the movie was pointless in the grand scale of things besides the mid credits scene. It was more small scale so if anything it just affected Ant Man and the Wasp the most.

lego18las ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But it doesn't really lead to it. It's a tagline on a movie that meant nothing. The plot to save Janet could have been handled in the second movie. At the end of IW one of the end credits could have been about how they built a tunnel to go to the quantum realm to potentially save Janet, Scott goes in, they disappear and he's stuck. Now in Avengers 4 Scott finds Janet and she and him travel through a time pocket and get out in the future and then the rest of Avengers 4 continues from there. You didn't need a two hour movie to set up that.

flamingllama33 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:23:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost could be important now that she's not angry and dying

bigbiemusic ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 09:27:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's ok to have a movie just be a sequel, ya know? That's what I actually enjoyed about this one. I wasn't busy scanning trying to find links to Avengers 4. I could just ease up and enjoy the story of the characters.

architrave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But what did it do as a sequel? Did I miss the character development? Perhaps it was lost between the awkward quips and lazy plot.

bigbiemusic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There was plenty of character development! Hope starts to show some next level badassery as the Wasp, yet continues to allow herself to be vulnerable with those she cares about. Hank's "misunderstood genius" develops into more of a selfish manipulator over a motive everyone can relate to- love. Maggie and Jim show a numerous bondful embrace over Scott's new direction as an unofficial Avenger. Kurt, Dave and Luis are now using their strengths as actual strengths by going clean, whereas in the first one they still wanted to live a criminal life. The seeds are planted for Cassie to be a hero, maybe a villain as Ant-Man 1 hinted at between Hank and Hope. Bill and Ghost are introduced as intriguing 50/50 characters who are more than likely due for return soon. Then, there's Scott... Scott expressed early on that he had no regrets getting involved in.Civil War, despite it costing his relationship with Hope. In the first, he felt the need to be a Robin Hood for the people. Now, he feels the need to make this world the best and safest world for his daughter and for Hope. It's shown that he cares for someone else other than Cassie. He's also much more confident in himself. So, yes there was a ton of character development.

madn3ss795 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:13:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He broke out of quantum realm once, he'll do it again.

jlewis412 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked it

FosterTheMonster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:19:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why did Wasp look so strange in the post credit scene? Anyone else notice?

beefytrout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was her hair. She had this weird braid in the center of her head.

dexterbateman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really dug it. Really fun movie overall. Not sure I liked it more than the original but it holds it's own, and Luis continues to be the hero the MCU doesn't deserve. I also made a bet with my buddy that one of the post credit scenes would address IW and he was adamant that since this was a palette cleanser movie, it wouldn't. I'm $10 richer.

My only real complaint was it didn't really feel like there was an antagonist. Like team pym and co were really just working toward a goal and some people were just sorta in the way every so often. Idk my friend called me out on that but I just didn't get a "big bad" feel out of it.

ohmygodimonfire4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well since both of them address it and not one of them doesn't that mean you lose the bet?

dexterbateman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

... dammit. Losing on a technicality again. Fair point haha

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:34:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That mid credit scene. Goddamn

WakandaNowAndThen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:46:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I made the mistake of seeing the 3D. Not that it was bad 3D, pretty solid, but it was just my wife laughing begrudgingly and me hyper-animated having a good time. Large crowds are always better for fan-oriented movies.

_Flashpoint_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:50:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck Thanos and his dumb fingers.

SirWolfScar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

you are now banned from r/thanosdidnothingwrong

good news thought, soon half of the entire sub will soon join you in less than a week, so you won't be lonely. :?

CowboyG ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That one guy in the x-cons reminds me of Jean-Ralphio

TheLegend719 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:15:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The TV service alarm going off at the end was sobering for sure. It kinda hit me more months later that Thanos really fucked shit up

bowlingdoughnuts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really enjoyed it. Everything about it was really good except the editing. Two times it simply jumps you forward in time and a lot of scenes were shot with a certain pace but the editing was jarring. Overall really was invested and almost teared up when Janet stepped out of the ship. This is the most I've felt during any marvel movie.

If Ant-Man and the wasp and the wasp and the other Ant-Man happen, id love for them to start away from the action an be more adventure like this movie was. I think ghost was compelling enough on her own that making her do bad guy things was against what the film was trying to accomplish. Good thing Laurence fishbone was there to keep a leash on her. Honestly pretty bold of him to stop her from going too far.

The more I type the more I want to see it again.

louisbancroft ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, watch this neat lighthearted comedy with a touching story, you all need something to relax after the last movie...

Now take this mid-credits scene. And fuck you.

blingblingdisco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:23:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If Luis is dusted, we riot.

Kiboune ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I expected this post credit scene and was not disappointed. But I though his daughter will turn to ash, not his team

rammo123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah Baba Yaga!

Morningsun92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:01:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Had a great time, good comedy, well done action, and the Scott and cassy moments were so wholesome.

mbowsy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:05:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The whole movie I was really worried it would end with Scott seeing Cassie disappear during the snap and that be some sort of dark motivation moment. I was super happy it didnโ€™t happen during the drive-in scene and was impressed they had all three Pyms go in the end.

TaddWinter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:07:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Man oh man I thought the second Post-Credit scene was going to be Cassie left completely alone. Maybe that would have been too much.

AnimaLepton ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:10:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Very refreshing, nice break from the breakneck pace of Infinity War, and a "comedy throughout (including the post credits scenes)" according to my brother

darn_it_all_to_heck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:16:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You could tell from that kitchen fight that Hope was obviously trained by Jackie Chan.

gamemaniax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:17:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I hope im not the only one chuckling when they reveal Egghead. Egg fucking Head! Now if they can make Stilt-Man or Paste-Pot Pete, that'd be great.

X-Con gave me an idea to group Luke Cage, Punisher, Deadpool and Juggenaut (if ever), and Scott as Thunderbolts.

ForeverTect ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When was the Egghead reveal???

gamemaniax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:01:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ava / Ghost's father is Elihas Starr aka Egghead in the comic. You also notice his bald egg like head lol.

bullseye717 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Missed opportunity for Scott Lang to slap da bass mon.

chaingunsofdoom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:00:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Loved the movie!

Got the following IMAX poster after our screening (not sure if anyone posted it yet?):

http://imgur.com/V5w4TPh

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:14:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost vs Vision.

Kosm-fucker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Uh Vision

the_cunt_muncher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:30:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really enjoyed it, thought it was really funny. I don't know if it's because of the July 4th holiday, but my theater was half empty which is a first for any premier I've ever been to.

jpetersinmd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:00:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I enjoyed the film a lot - it was just like the first one.

ktchong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So... will Ghost remain in the MCU and become a hero?

words_words_words_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hope so. She's awesome

ktchong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost was a villain in the comics.

Then again, Nebula (from Guardians of the Galaxy) was also a villain in the comics, but she seems to have become an anti-hero in the MCU.

Ghost was a man and a completely different character in the comics, so the MCU completely changes her character and background.

obeythed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:49:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nice little The Shield reunion between Shane Vendrell and his old partner Army.

recesshustlerkid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can anyone tell me what song was playing when Scott wakes up in the car with Hope at the beginning of the movie?

scimitarsaint ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:50:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Frohtastic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

you shonnuvabish

Sweet_Tangerine50 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Sweet_Tangerine50 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Goddammit I knew what this was going to be and I clicked anyway.

Haywood_Jablowmi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I enjoyed AMATW as much as or even more than Ant-Man. The jokes may not have been as good, but the action was great and Wasp/Ghost were amazing.

My biggest concern is that I hope Ant-Man isn't benched from Infinity War 2 given what happened in the mid-credits scene.

nuzin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Both Feige and behind the scene set photos confirm Ant Man play big role in Avenger 4. After all, they want this character to make more impact for advertising the Ant-man 3 whatever it call

TehOnlyNinja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's seen on set with Iron Man , Cap , and Hulk in NYC so he has a big real I believe.

ampertude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My read of that scene was that it acted as an opening for him to be in Infinity War 2. There is also currently speculation that Thanos' snap didn't kill people, but just removed them from ever having existed. The theory is then that all the characters will 'forget' about the people who disappeared. Within this theory, Scott would maintain his memory due to being in the Quantum Realm at the time of the snap.

nsbaum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's probably the other way around and

ZleepZleepy86 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:50:46 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, considering that scene, he probably will be benched. Unless we have a scene where someone manages to get him out or he gets himself out

Bomber131313 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:01 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Someone suggested maybe Ghost and Perry White might come alone and 'free' him. They where collecting the energy to help Ghost not a reach to think 1 might stop by.

sooperkool ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 21:50:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Reducing Lawrence Fishburne to a small role he played once in his career is neither cute nor funny. Show the man some respect, he's a great actor.

Oppis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:59:26 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's not how it works

Sorge74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:36 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Serious question, would you prefer we referred to him as Morpheus?

ZleepZleepy86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:16 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didnโ€™t know calling characters by their names was insulting to their actors. I doubt Mark Hamill is very insulted whenever someone talks about his character as Luke Skywalker

sooperkool ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In sure Mark Hamill would be very pissed if you referred to him as Luke Skywalker in lieu of his actual name when you very obviously know it. But then again read what you wrote again, I do know what you meant though and yeah it tends to bother actually quite a bit. Think of it like this, let's say you were a busboy in s restaurant and people that know your name just referred to you as busboy all the time.

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:23 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Reducing Lawrence Fishburne to a small role he played once in his career is neither cute nor funny.......................Show the man some respect

Respect? At least I know he played the role twice. And in Man of Steel it wasn't a 'small role'.

sooperkool ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:06 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For an Oscar-nominated actor that was also in Apocalypse Now, yeah that role was nothing. BTW, you know role is both singular and plural right? It's the same role if you are playing the same character across multiple films. You don't say he played the roles of Perry White and Perry White, it's implied that it encompasses all instances of that same character unless you directly specify individual films in your text.

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:28 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yah, but how much 'respect' did you have not knowing he played the role twice. Maybe know your facts before using the word respect.

And I don't 'respect' actors. They are just entertainers. I respect fire fighters, cops, and armed forces, not people who are just good a pretending.

sooperkool ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:59:03 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Reading is fundamental.

Bomber131313 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:23:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

once

??? Try counting again.

mikeweasy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:50:36 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I saw it twice now at two different theaters and both times there was 30 or less people there. I am used of seeing MCU movies in a packed theater on opening weekend.

Bomber131313 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:47:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well Ant-Man one opened at 57 million and this made 76 and 161 worldwide. I think Disney is very happy with those numbers.

mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:01 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thats cool

greatness101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:17 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I saw it opening night and Saturday afternoon during matinee. Both times it wasn't as packed as your average Avengers movie, but it was still pretty full.

mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Interesting

brady2gronk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:16:01 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder why they switched to Michelle Pfeiffer as older Janet instead of just using Hayley Lovitt in old makeup.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:19:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

??? Hayley Lovitt wasnโ€™t even young Janet, what are you talking about?

brady2gronk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:32:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

According to imdb, she was young Janet in both movies.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:43:42 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol Michelle was CGIโ€™d to be young, quite obviously, in Ant-Man and the Wasp. They just use Hayley to help with the CGI

Seemseasy ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 14:39:48 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But ironically, they didnโ€™t fix her fat lip

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is some dumb shit right here.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:50:15 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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brady2gronk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:18 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Even in the first movie? I thought they showed her face briefly.

neon5k ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:42:59 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The audience approval on rt for this is very low compared to other MCU stuff, I hope it's good. Still a week to go here.

LuckyCapt-RabbitKing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

why do they need the quantum tunnel when antman & the wife were able to get there via regulator?

Bomber131313 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:41:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

& the wife were able to get there via regulator?

The wife didn't get back that way. Might be a good idea to have a stable way out.

samspopguy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:54:38 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Better way to control getting out.

Univirsul ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:21:29 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I believe the tunnel is essentially like a sling ring portal to a specific point in the quantum realm and not just a random point like when just shrinking in place.

WolframRed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:34:18 on December 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Have you noticed a possible kitty pryde reference?

Luis said, "Oh, you know what? I heard stories, like what happened to you. Like this crazy, creepy cat who like, walks through walls and stuff."

WolframRed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:22 on December 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Probably poking fun at the fact that X-men would soon join the MCU. Luis has a history of dropping hints about future characters.

rubberbanditshorse ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:53:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly what I needed. The opposite of Infinity War in every way, and a much better movie. Energetic, funny, and charming beyond belief.

HandsomeHawc ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:34:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A better movie than Infinity War? Totally your opinion but that's surprising to hear.

rubberbanditshorse ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 00:09:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

At least for me. If you want a serious, bleak, uneven and overlong superhero film then Infinity War is right up your alley. (Just my opinion by the way). This movie just put a smile on my face from the first minute, and it never let up.

brady2gronk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:03:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Only if you don't stay for the credits.

rubberbanditshorse ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 00:07:53 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I did and that scene was 100 times more effective then it was in IW. I actually cared about the characters in this film which is not really something I can say about IW

ScarecrowTEP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly what you needed?? Have you not had any fun positive moments between IW and Antman and The Wasp?

rubberbanditshorse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly? Not really. My life has been pretty shitty recently, and this movie made me feel better.

CaptainLang ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:36:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This wasn't a Captain America or Iron man sequel so I didn't have high expectations. It was fun - perhaps 10 minutes too long - but overall, a good superhero flick.

One issue I had with the movie was the constant exposition. Five people worked on this script and none of them could find a way to weave the information into the dialogue without making it so painfully obvious?

The post-credits scene was so damn creepy. Various shots of an empty townhouse, emergency alert on the TV, and a giant ant playing the drums? Horror movie stuff.

Solid "B" movie.

EDIT: Reading through this thread, I see a lot of negative opinions. I can totally understand why people might not like this movie or aren't completely satisfied with it. Especially when compared to the first one. Ant-Man - as a said - is not one of the bigger Marvel characters so that's why I didn't care too much about the quality. It's not great but I don't consider it a bad movie.

There are no memorable action sequences. The first film had a ton of cool moments: they didn't always make sense, they sometimes contradicted previous plot points but they were dramatic and stood out. This film had nothing memorable. If you're tired of Marvel humor, this movie has a ton of it - which I found forgivable in this case because Ant-Man is heavy on comedy. It's not Civil War or Ragnarok where the story is serious but characters are constantly quipping and being silly. Nothing major is at stake here. The antagonists are more annoying that threatening.

Overall: it's incredibly, incredibly average. It brings nothing new to the table. It's very forgettable. But - for me - I didn't leave the theater thinking I wasted my money on a bad movie. I laughed at a lot of the jokes, I thought the sentimental parts were touching, the cast has great chemistry, and I thought some parts were cool, but I wasn't blown away like I was after Black Panther.

TL;DR: It's an Ant-Man sequel. Shrug.

addy_g ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:44:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man is actually a pretty big marvel character. he was in the original Avengers line up.

put it this way - heโ€™s bigger than the Guardians of the Galaxy, bigger than Vision or Scarlet Witch, Doctor Strange, etc. if I had to compare him to someone in terms of โ€œbignessโ€ or importance, Iโ€™d say heโ€™s similar to Black Panther.

that being said, Iโ€™m disappointed that people didnโ€™t like this movie as much as the first. was really looking forward to it!

CaptainLang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man is actually a pretty big marvel character. he was in the original Avengers line up.

Hank Pym. Not Scott Lang.

I'm not the biggest comic book nerd on the planet but I know that much. Scott Lang (or Hank Pym, for that matter) as an MCU character is not a major player.

addy_g ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:21:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

oh, ok I thought you meant Ant-Man in general, not the person behind the mask.

youโ€™re absolutely right though, Lang is small potatoes, while Pym has been directly tied to a majority of Marvel 616โ€™s comic events. Pym created Ultron, not Stark, so that should give people who donโ€™t know Pymโ€™s role in the comics a pretty good idea.

JeffDenlon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:03 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man is actually a pretty big marvel character. he was in the original Avengers line up.

That would be more Hank Pym and not Scott Lang. I love Paul Rudd as Scott, but he isn't a major character in the comics. Pym is the main Ant-Man and he always had a major role in the comic storylines.

In the comics, he created Ultron. In the movies, they gave that role to Tony. In fact, Bruce Banner kind of replace Pym as Stark's science buddy in the movie series.

addy_g ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah we made that differentiation in another response - check out what I responded to for the other guy that said what you did in response to me.

shannytyrelle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

the exposition in the first one was worse, rewatched it just before this sequel and it was a little cringe how much โ€˜forcedโ€™ exposition they had (just a nit-pick)

sbb618 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:23:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Some guy in my theater shouted "Oh shit!" after the shot of the piles of dust.

Mariliz1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In mine someone started laughing... it was annoying.

asianorange ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:44:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I hate stupid fans like that.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:32:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I hate stupid fans that can't stfu.

leeeeeeeeeeuk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:37:42 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I am a big fan of the first Ant Man movie and the MCU and have just seen Ant Man and the Wasp

Maybe It is me but I thought it was def in the bottom 5 MCU Is it just me but it felt like a continuous get the lab movie? It just never got going as a superhero movie and felt all over the place. I really wanted to like this but I am shocked at how bad it was

Even the not so good superhero movies had something I liked

I know it was a sort of break from Infinity war and like the previous Ant man it was more of a fun ride but i found this so disappointing

What are anyone else's views..Did I miss something?

Javv_ ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:04:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also, dont bother staying for the second post credit scene

coltsmetsfan614 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:09:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Idk, I liked how quick yet eerie it was.

jdragon3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:28 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Quick, eerie, with a hilarious send off. Absolutely worth it imo

GarMek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:35:34 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

if you noticed the background noice, that scene actually happen after the snap.

Skywalkling ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:12:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't dislike it, but I also didn't love it; it's probably my least favourite MCU movie since Age of Ultron. I thought it had a lot of cool concepts, but none of them were given enough focus to really shine, and so it all ended up feeling a bit empty.

I'm also not happy about a good 90 percent of the cool action/size changing gags being in the trailers. It didn't feel that way going into the movie, but that's probably because I thought they'd have more up their sleeves with the Quantum realm, and that the big car chase would be around the midpoint at the latest.

ScarecrowTEP ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:36:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with this film feeling empty, one of my biggest problems was the exposition.

Broly_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:56:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I enjoyed the movie, I don't regret seeing it. I'm surprised there wasn't that many action scenes where characters stayed in shrunken form for extended periods of time. It follows the aftermath of Captain America: Civil War and how it affected the people around him and his life.

  • Scott interacting with his daughter is still a major part of his character, carrying over from the first movie. So that's great
  • Scott's banter with Woo is probably gonna be people's one of two favorite scenes
  • The other scene would be Janet possessing Scott's body and interacting with Hope and Hank. Funny as hell.
  • Luis and friends coming back showing what they've been doing/plan on doing with Scott running their security business and as expected with their scenes are still funny as hell.
  • Hank Pym and his daughter Hope are revealed to be on the run and in hiding but also finding a way into the Quantum realm after Scott managed to get out of it

It was WAAAAY more jokey than the first movie and some jokes dragged on for a couple seconds too long. That's probably my biggest, and maybe, only gripe with the movie.

There was two "kinda" villains in the movie: Butch and Ava

  • I enjoyed Butch's attitude and personality quite a bit and since he didn't die, i'm hoping to see more of him since he's just your typical black market dealer instead of an irredeemable killer

  • Ava was quick to use violence and threats throughout the movie so it was a bit strange for me to see her feel sorry for herself for killing people in the past after she get's fixed (although they did explain she was in constant pain)

Two after-credit scenes:

  • The mid-credits scene is the important one and one we all expect after Infinity War.

TaddWinter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Last scene was to leave people on a little less of a downer and the Emergency Broadcast tone made it super eerie.

Broly_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

the Emergency Broadcast tone made it super eerie

It did but it was misleadingly eerie.

TaddWinter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just because the scene shifts doesn't make it misleading. They wanted to leave people on a less somber tone.... so they could stab them in the heart with the question mark.

Broly_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just because the scene shifts doesn't make it misleading

Yes it does, especially when a scene shifts from eerie broadcast noise to a giant Ant playing the drums in a lighthearted manner.

They wanted to leave people on a less somber tone.... so they could stab them in the heart with the question mark

Well that's your interpretation I guess. I didn't feel like my heart was stabbed.

Plus this sentence basically admits that it was a misleading scene

TaddWinter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:11:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the entire scene was eerie, as do many people here and on the marvel studios sub.

Even if you didn't see it that way I still don't find that misleading at all. A scene shift is not misleading IMO.

rohay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Regarding Eva she was taking in by shield and was given a suit and a way to ease the pain if she did what they wanted and seeing how shield was actually Hydra I would imagine they never healing her

Broly_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm aware that they turned to SHIELD for help but from what Ava said in the movie, she was weaponized and did all those things for them and in return they'd kill her not heal her (She wanted to die)

But they didn't kill her.

rohay ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:38:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No they said they'd heal her and they never did

Edit 7/7 saw the movie again she clearly says they promised to Cure her . so suck it I was right

cloudycane ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:21:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was thoroughly whelmed by this movie. Not good not bad. Just there.

inspectre_ecto ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:58:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wakanda and San Francisco should have a 9 hour time difference if you're using Cape Town as reference. So, for me, the two snap scenes being in broad daylight holds up. Figure team sciene in SF was up bright and early. Did Janet even get to have a lunch for the first time since coming back?

CapWasRight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That scene is pretty clearly quite some time later, given the amount of time that must pass in the pre-credits montage.

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The snap echoes like a wave. Hence why all the Wakandans are first to go.

Malachi108 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:00:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It can be 8 AM in SF and 7 PM in Africa, both are very bright for the Summertime.

GotMoFans ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:26:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I enjoyed it a lot. Laughed more from this than I ever did from Thor 3. The humor was intentional but didnโ€™t feel forced or placed in the wrong moments. If this was Thor 3, there would have been a joke placed when Scott was stuck in the quantum realm and the Snappening occurred.

Great change of pace, good misdirection on the true villain, and good work humbling the heroes but keeping them heroic.

ReflexImprov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought this was great, but I absolutely loved Ragnarok and the humor in it. Saw it again on Netflix a couple of weeks ago and loved it even more the 2nd time.

GotMoFans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I felt Thor 3 took itself a little too unseriously. It had the biggest consequences of any movie in the MCU other than Avengers 3. Thor lost his dad, his best friends, his girlfriend, and his homeland. No big deal, though.

ReflexImprov ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:03:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

From what I was watching, the humor didn't diminish the weight of what was happening at all. Personally, I felt the consequences. And I was glad there was a release valve of humor to balance it out. Sorry you didn't have the same experience, but I absolutely loved it.

Bitey_the_Squirrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also Meek died

Wendigo15 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:51:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well there was no joke when thanos ship hovered over thor

rdardi123 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:53:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

hated the villain, but the rest was great! Ghost was supposed to get my sympathies but i could not have cared less about her than i did. i was rooting for her to die at the end tbh. bummer how they wasted her. either make her sympathetic or don't, but they did a 50/50 split which just frustrated me greatly. other than that, i LOVED this movie! funny and entertaining ! and his daughter is a fucking super star she nailed every scene she was in.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What's that you say? A 50/50 split in whether a character should be sympathetic or not? Sounds perfectly balanced to me.

I mean I'm mostly commenting for the joke, but I would really love to see an academic analysis of the movie in terms of balance and duality and some speculation about how that ties into the one film preceding and two films immediately after this one.

JeffDenlon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:22 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds perfectly balanced to me.

As all things should be.

rdardi123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:06:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

haha the joke was good!! and i would love to see that as well, but i cant be the one to do the analysis haha im def not the most qualified person for that task, but if anyone wants to jump in and do one, it would be much appreciated!

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:53 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

hated the villain

Who you calling the villain?

rdardi123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost haha! i know there were multiple antagonists but she was hyped as the main one so i am going with her as the villain

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:10 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yah, I wouldn't call her a villain. She was more just an opponent.

I very much liked the fact they didn't have a true villain and the movie have very very low stakes. Marvel got away from the 'MCU formula' with this a little and it helped.

rdardi123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:49 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

totally agreed! i liked the fact that they strayed, but i just think Ghost as a character could have been done better, she was my least favorite part of the movie, in fact maybe the only part i didn't like at all

qmanitarian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Movie poster code: GWP-ANTM-ARI8QX-UE2YUK

Furtherthanfurther ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:41:58 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What? How can I redeem this?

zdentonz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:01 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
PrinceNuada01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Would like to know too

zdentonz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
brady2gronk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:06 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I got that, but 8 bucks shipping made it a no-go for me.

lorduzair ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:11:52 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone catch the pastor joke? Goddamit Marvel

Fn_Spaghetti_Monster ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:49:55 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So three different people ask what the joke was and you don't bother to actually answer any of them. You like just purposely trying to keep your elite "I got the joke and you didn't" club or ??

lorduzair ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 10:58:02 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What? I have explained the joke in 2 out of 3 comments in this thread

MatttheBruinsfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:04 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Your "explanation" would be useless to anyone without enough familiarity with the reference to get the joke on their own.

Briscogun ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:15:34 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Must've missed that one? Any help?

lorduzair ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 12:38:36 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When Paul Rudd tells Asian Jim that heโ€™s good with children, he says thanks I am also a young pastor. Pretty sure that was an intentional reference to...

straub42 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:04:30 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No.

The reason the joke is funny is because he provides a long-winded, overly-complex, and detailed explanation to a child. Scott says, "You are really good with children" Sarcastically, thinking, "wow, this guy has no experience talking to kids". Woo replies with "Thanks, I used to be a youth pastor" AKA someone who would have quite a bit of experience talking to kids, and should have a better understanding of how to communicate with them.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:06 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

...?

Lord_Sylveon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:15 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Priests/pastors infamously diddling children.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:58:17 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Y'all are reading too much into that line.

Lord_Sylveon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:26 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm just explaining the perceived joke

GaryBettmanSucks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:52:52 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're reading way too much into it

superhero2017 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:21 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the theatre I was watching ,it seemed like nobody got it. It was a very sleek joke,props to marvel for sliding it in there

lorduzair ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:37:37 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Looking back upon it, it was probably the darkest joke in a Marvel movie. Too dark for a Marvel movie even. Heck, it wouldnโ€™t have been out of place even on Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia. No wonder very few got it.

The_Effing_Eagle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:44:04 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What is the joke?

_Discordian ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:15:16 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is less a single joke than an entire gag, very similar to what you used to hear from the likes of Jack Benny and Burns and Allen.

It begins with the setup, in which Jim provides a relatively long-winded but genuine response to Cassie's question instead of simply being dismissive.

Then Scott makes a sarcastic comment about Jim's ability to speak with children. Then Jim responds in a serious and unexpected fashion, completely missing the sarcasm.

It's relatively dry humor, and the basic form has existed at least since vaudeville.

It has nothing to do with pedophilia.

The_Effing_Eagle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:29:41 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's how I took it as well. Was very confused when the other commenters referred to it as a dark joke.

Lord_Sylveon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:56:44 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Priests/pastors are infamous for diddling children.

chili01 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:43:39 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

a lot of jokes fly by people's head because there were so many and it just kept coming. I like them though

poubelleaccount ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:26 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't get it. What was that a reference to?

[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 12:38:53 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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pa79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:34:12 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He said he was a youth pastor, not a young pastor. They do masses for children.

greeliomio ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:59:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

mediocre/10

brady2gronk ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:49:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Here's a nitpick: If it was daytime when the snap happened in Wakanda, would it be daytime in San Francisco?

CronoDroid ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:41:41 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wakanda looks to be in East Africa, which is UTC +3 timezone. West Coast US is UTC -7. That's a ten hour difference, so it could be late afternoon in Wakanda (which it probably was) and early morning US.

aej11a ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:38:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Right now itโ€™s 8:38 AM in San Francisco, and 5:38 PM in South Africa, so yes.

ObsiArmyBest ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:52:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes

brady2gronk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What about wherever Nick Fury and Agent Hill were?

aej11a ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:39:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Theyโ€™re in Chicago, so also yes.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:34 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wasnโ€™t AOS taking place in Chicago in the season finale?

aej11a ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:52 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. Seems like an interesting coincidence :)

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Makes sense. If their new organization is in charge of alien related incidents, then they would be there helping SHIELD/Daisy!

ObsiArmyBest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:33:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What about it? Could be daylight there too.

RicDan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:46:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Asking the real questions - dunno why you're negative in downvotes.

brady2gronk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:36:03 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks. I really liked the movie. Wasn't trying to be negative. Just asking.

2rio2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:38:06 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lagos, Nigeria 5 PM is 9 AM in San Francisco so yes.

phonz1851 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:19:15 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didnโ€™t like this much at all. I didnโ€™t find it that funny or clever, and it lacked the personality the first film did. Also the science mumbo jumbo got really tiresome after a while

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:09:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Great movie! Loved it! But I have to shit on it's weak spots:

So because they became Quantumly Entangled, Janet was prepared, just in that brief exact moment Hank and Hope fired up the Quantum Tunnel, to communicate through Scott? They said time worked differently there, so I may be mistaken.

So how did they program the Ant to follow Scott's meticulous house-arrest activities schedule?

Poor Judy Greer and Bobby Cannavale - they're like the Warriors Three of the Ant-Man universe; unnecessarily big faces in small roles.

So why was Sonny Burch in this story? He would have been just a Chekhov's Army character to just appear and then reappear later had he not had a connection to somebody in the FBI to further the reoccurring theme of Phase Three. Poor Walton Goggins is just typecast as a sleazy dirtbag in every role now isn't he?

So Hope meets Burch dressed casually, and ten seconds later is suddenly dressed in a brand spankin' new suit just in time to fight? No big reveal of her, or of what is clearly the better suit??
Hank seemed okay letting her deal with Burches mooks all alone, but got anxious when the Ghost arrived? If my daughter were surrounded by gunmen, even with a super-suit, I'd be worried.

Is there any backstory on the lab? Pym's last lab imploded. How did he get this one? For a man who lives in an old 'Adam's Family' house, he can sure afford a lot of buildings and vehicles to shrink.

So they can take off their helmets at different sizes? I was under the impression it worked like a spacesuit with its own atmosphere inside, and that they couldn't breach it at different sizes without being effected / dying? Why am I bother asking this in an Ant-man movie?

Oh, so Bill Foster, the guy they just happen to be asking information from on their Ghost troubles, is also coincidentally behind the Ghost troubles they are investigating? Well how about that...

So the expensive tech they got off of Burch just fits into their machine like a big keycard / harddrive? That's convenient.

I love Stan Lee - but this has to be his worst cameo in a Marvel movie. It was a slow humorous moment totally crammed into a fast-paced action scene. It stood out like a sore thumb.

Just like half of the laws of physics in Ant-man movies, the physics of the quantum realm are left ambiguous, but it would have been nice to explain why Hank needed to suit up if he could just survive in that environment without it, or how Janet managed to survive several decades there, or how it 'changed her'.
I get the feeling this will be expanded on in the sequel the same way it was before. Was there a city in the Quantum Realm or was I seeing things?

Bill Foster gave Ava a matter of weeks to live. So why did she get so desperate as if she had hours, even enough to kidnap Cassie or kill Janet?

Janet is such a huge part of the plot of this movie, but we barely scratch the surface of her character at all. Call this a criticism if they don't plan on expanding on her in the sequel.

TLDR; Great fun movie - but so many questions to answer.

jdragon3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:30:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So because they became Quantumly Entangled, Janet was prepared, just in that brief exact moment Hank and Hope fired up the Quantum Tunnel, to communicate through Scott?

She isnt exactly busy/distracted and has had loads of time to contemplate and prepare for future possibilities.

 

So how did they program the Ant to follow Scott's meticulous house-arrest activities schedule?

Theyve had ants doing everything from household tasks to assembling complex machinery/components, im not sure why you would choose here to end your suspension of disbelief (also recall from the first movie that the ants can be instructed to do virtually anything via thought/stimulation)

 

So Hope meets Burch dressed casually, and ten seconds later is suddenly dressed in a brand spankin' new suit just in time to fight? No big reveal of her, or of what is clearly the better suit??

Remember how small a size the suits are shrunken to when not in use? Its easily within the realm of possibility that she simply shrank and swapped outfits in a few secobds before dramatically reappearing in full costume.

 

Hank seemed okay letting her deal with Burches mooks all alone, but got anxious when the Ghost arrived? If my daughter were surrounded by gunmen, even with a super-suit, I'd be worried.

A healthy portion of her arc in the first movie revolved around hank not wanting to allow her to rusk her life - he is afraid of losing her like he lost his wife. Hell, the reveal of the wasp suit at the end was the culmination - Hank finally accepting his daughter's will to act and effectively giving his blessing. if he reverted to panicking at the sight of her fighting some goons, telling her to run or something, it would totally undermine both that key theme of the first movie AND a main theme of the second movie (selflessly helping others despite personal risk - contrasted by Ghost selfishly, albeit sympathetically/understandably, risking others to save oneself)

 

So they can take off their helmets at different sizes? I was under the impression it worked like a spacesuit with its own atmosphere inside, and that they couldn't breach it at different sizes without being effected / dying? Why am I bother asking this in an Ant-man movie?

The helmet protects from adverse effects to the brain caused by exposure to pym particles. AFAIK they are HIGHLY recommended for prolonged exposure but not totally mandatory at all times

 

Oh, so Bill Foster, the guy they just happen to be asking information from on their Ghost troubles, is also coincidentally behind the Ghost troubles they are investigating? Well how about that...

Is it that absurd though? He is pretty much the only other expert on the subject and Hank was likely indisposed when they searched for someone to help her. That + his ties to hank and shield make this not that far of a stretch imho

 

I love Stan Lee - but this has to be his worst cameo in a Marvel movie. It was a slow humorous moment totally crammed into a fast-paced action scene. It stood out like a sore thumb.

Subjective taste. I thought it was hilarious and if got a huge pop from the packed theater I was in. Actually might be my favourite Stan Lee cameo so clearly we had a polar opposite reaction lol.

 

Just like half of the laws of physics in Ant-man movies, the physics of the quantum realm are left ambiguous, but it would have been nice to explain why Hank needed to suit up if he could just survive in that environment without it, or how Janet managed to survive several decades there, or how it 'changed her'.

Again the suit prevents adverse effects of exposure to pym particles. Not mandatory at all times but prolobged exposure without a suit has serious repurcussions (see: how cross/yellowjacket went unhinged in the first movie)

 

Bill Foster gave Ava a matter of weeks to live. So why did she get so desperate as if she had hours, even enough to kidnap Cassie or kill Janet?

He gave her 2 weeks to live and offered no concrete alternative, telling her nothing beyond "hank and his wife are smart maybe they can help you". As far as she can see the only tangible/actionable cure is healing herself at janet's expanse - and the window to do so while she is in the quantum realm ia rapidly closing (along with the window to rescue her). She grows to think that bill is going to let her die by refusing to act. IMHO this is all perfectly in-character for a woman who was used as a cold blooded assassin, coerced with the promise of a cure, then betrayed and abandoned to die when SHIELD collapsed.

As per Janet: yes hopefully they will explain much much more in a thurd movie

MurryEB ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Are you me

phantomsniper22 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:53:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I enjoyed it. Thought it was good not great by any stretch though. The film was just so damn repetitive in the whole second half of the movie. Enjoyable none the less. 7/10

_theuser ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:00:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That whole Baba Yaga scene was hilarious. Reminded me of John Wick.

pwise1234 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:19:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Please donโ€™t downvote me to hell. First, I enjoyed the movie. Now thatโ€™s out of the way, I did not feel that any new ground was tread with these characters. โ€œMarvel is formulaicโ€ would be too lazy of a review and I donโ€™t think this was necessarily a lazy or formulaic effort, perhaps for me the stakes didnโ€™t seem that high? The villains werenโ€™t necessarily villains, the criminals seemed a bit 90s campy, and the general outing felt more happy-go-lucky than it was in trying to press the danger and stakes.

Iโ€™ll tell people to go see it. I got a few really good chuckles out of it and I enjoyed the kitchen fight and tunneling visuals, but I donโ€™t think this will be ranked extremely high as say Thor: Ragnorok.

Edit: spelling

altcastle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:28:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, that's pretty accurate. However, I don't think every one of these movies needs to be a huge thing. I really enjoyed that it was relatively low stakes and pretty laid back especially after the body blows to the feels that Infinity War delivered.

CynicalRaps ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:29:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wel lI see it as there's no clear cut villain because overall, at the moment, Thanos is supposed to be the main threat we have in our minds... so this film having some "not really villainy" antagonists is more than enough, it doesn't take away from what Thanos is doing and he's still fresh in our minds, especially after mid credits, it reminds us "yeah hey this was a good film, but don't forget Thanos still fucked everything up..." type of deal.

Luxx815 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:33:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really didnt mind not having such an intense "villain". The last release being 'Black Panther', we got a good villain and a lot of action. This movie was more of like a "heist" movie. It seems more realistic when some movies can not have such high stakes fighting and more of a smaller mission oriented movie to set up future plot lines in the larger world.

FullTorsoApparition ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Marvel genre bends a lot of the films to keep them fresh and distinguish them from each other. They hired an actor known for his comedic performances for a reason, because Ant-Man is being handled as more of a superhero comedy compared to the others. Out of the entire new lineup, his superhero gimmick is probably the silliest and so they try to embrace that with a more lighthearted tone.

I can't really fault them for being campy and lighthearted because it's ANT-MAN. Some heroes deal with cosmic demons and international terrorist organizations and some heroes ride ants and build box forts with their daughters.

One of the things I like about the MCU is their willingness to shake up the formula from time to time. I think this movie was timed perfectly after the more somber Infinity War. The Avengers have been getting more and more grim, so Ant-Man was designed to show us the fun and wacky side of superheros again.

ValhallaGo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Antagonist != villain

Ghost was an antagonist, which was refreshing

billypilgrim_in_time ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:45 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with you, but I will say that there isnโ€™t anything wrong with a fun superhero movie with low stakes. It uses the characters well, you have fun watching it, and as long as they portray the โ€œsuperhero abilitiesโ€ well, then itโ€™s a success. Itโ€™s refreshing to me to have a fun movie that just tries to be fun, and not make it into a โ€œthe world will endโ€ scenario. Itโ€™s light, delightful, and easy to watch. Iโ€™m okay with that

ThePhonze ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:51:18 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Obviously a different movie, but the villain's plot suffers from the same problem that Poe's plot with Holdo did in Star Wars TLJ, but for some reason people don't seem to be complaining about it that much.

I don't see a logical reason as to why Ghost and Laurence Fishbourne's character couldn't have had a conversation with Hank at some point during the movie about Ghost's condition. Or even have had a conversation about Ghost's condition in the years leading up to the events in this movie.

Also they gave no explanation as to how Janet was able to cure her. She just could. Cause she has been in the quantum realm for years she can cure Ghost? But why?

Bomber131313 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:38:47 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

don't see a logical reason as to why Ghost and Laurence Fishbourne's character couldn't have had a conversation with Hank at some point during the movie about Ghost's condition

Well, the fact Hank had Ghosts father fired and discredited one reason. Second Fishbourne and Hank don't like each other.

Or even have had a conversation about Ghost's condition in the years leading up to the events in this movie.

Well Hank and Hope have been on the run and hiding "in the years leading up to the events in this movie", so that's a problem.

Also they gave no explanation as to how Janet was able to cure her

They did. She has year inside the quantum realm absorbed quantum energy and that energy help stabilize Ghost. It's bad comic book BS, but it is what it is.

yognautilus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:49:09 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank hadn't started any serious work on reaching the Quantum Realm until after the events of the first Ant-Man and with how Janet and Hank were on the run, it's not hard to imagine that it took a ton of time for any real progress to be made on the tunnel. It's possible that Ghost and Fishbourne's character didn't even know about it until they noticed that someone had been buying a bunch of stuff for a quantum tunnel years later. It was also established that Fishbourne's character had a deep-seated resentment towards Hank and was way too pigheaded to seek him out for help.

With Janet's powers, I have a feeling the Quantum Realm powers are going to be one of those powers of convenience, where they do things that suit whatever situation they want. As for why she has them in the first place, she absorbed them after having been in that realm and studying the energy for 30 years.

UpstateGuyDoingStuff ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:19:28 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Janet had been absorbing the quantum realm energy for 30 years and was able to use it to stabilize ghost. Ghost wasn't fully healed though since they were going to collect more of the energy I'm the mid credit scene. Fishbone and ghost were going to take all of the quantum energy out of Janet at once in the hopes of saving ghost, this put them at odds with the protagonists because no one knew how that would effect Janet.

Edit: No one could have predicted that she would be able to do a concentrated burst of energy like she did with Hank and Ghost.

e3m88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:23:28 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Quantum energy doesn't even make sense...

KeefAmsterdam ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:35:48 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Speed force

yognautilus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:53:53 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Shrink, Scott. Shrink!"

theanchorman05 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:01:29 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No Scott we're Antman

KeefAmsterdam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:42 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can go smaller!

Zer0Fucks2Give ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:42 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Not everything does, not everything has to." ~The Ancient One

AleSir19 ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 03:30:17 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie is a great example of poor filmmaking...

A perfect example of tell everything dont show enough...

That is what makes Ant Man feel so different from Ant Man and The Wasp...

Edgar Wright made the first movie, this one is just pure Peyton and you can feel it...

The movie is just a straight DVD movie.

Vorcana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:10:39 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought Reed made a lot of changes to Ant-Man after Wright left? I remember reading something about how Lily's character was very minimal before Wright left. And even then it's not like her role was even nearly as impactful compared to this movie.

AleSir19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:31 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was bullshit...

All the Action Sequences in the first Ant Man film:

1-Scott Lang stealing the suit.

2-Scott Lang testing the suit for the first time.

3-Scott Lang training to become Ant Man.

4-Scott Lang stealing the suit.

5-Scott Lang vs Yellow Jacket in the room of Cassie with the Thomas the Tank Engine toy clashing in the middle of the sequence...

All that stuff was develop, design by Edgar Wright. That is why when you see "Ant Man and the Wasp" you clearly can feel a difference...

Marvel did cut if i understand right 4 key Sequences:

-Old Hank Pym and The Wasp againts Fidel Castro, this intro action sequence was mean to explain how the Wasp die while trying to stop the missile.

-Scott and his friends using the suit to steal a bunch of shit: To steal money, to steal from a Casino, to steal jewels...

-Ant Man vs Cross Fire, in one point of the movie Scott needed to steal something from Cross, so Hank sends Scott vs Cross Fire, so i guess they replace his fight with the one he had with Falcon in the movie...

-Hank vs Scott, it was say that in one of the early drafts Scott become crazy thanks to the use of the Pym Particles and this let to him fighting againts Hank who then needed to put again the suit.

So yes, the one big key change they did was to give Hope a bigger role in the movie and they also erased Cross Fire from the script and give Darren Cross a bigger role, they also stop Scott from becoming crazy thanks to the pym particles, the main reason why Hank really didnt wanted Hope to use the suit, because then she could have become crazy like Scott...

Parts of this remain in the movie, but they clearly though it was too hard to show that Hank was manipulating Scott and using him and thanks to what he did, Scott becomes crazy and he has to stop him.

littletoyboat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:10:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just about every cool shrinking/growing moment was in the trailer. Hell, the very last shot of the post-credits scene was in the trailer! What is wrong with trailer editors?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

car chases are always my favorite

gamemaniax ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:09:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I came to the movie with low expectation, just like the first one. But heck, they kept surprising me. I was like hmm they really peaked when they were showcasing small size ant-man combat. No way they are gonna top that. I was wrong. Again. The fight scene with Ghost got that Matrix highway fight scene vibe, you know the one with the ghostly twins. Having Fishburne along sure brings back all the nostalgic memories.

MoodyHamudi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:45:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did anyone else find it weird how right before ghost caught all 3 of them how Scott just goes "it's ghost!" Was anyone else confused by that?

WhyYouGottaBeSoDruid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That kind of stood out to me too, but I just figured that's probably just Scott's love for naming things coming out.

MoodyHamudi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah possibly. Or he might have said "oh it's that ghost!"

Riitchiie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think that comes from a previous scene when they were talking about Ghost. When Kurt mentions Baba Yaga, I believe it was Scott who mentions that โ€œshe went through walls like a ghost.โ€

Peanutbutterbrownies ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:22:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did it really bother anyone else that they put Michelle Pfeiffer on the poster? I think it took away from any question about whether Janet would make it back or not. Surely modern-day Michelle Pfeiffer isn't that big of a box office draw that it was necessary?

After Infinity War, it feels like the stakes have been higher and not knowing she was gonna make it back ahead of time would have been a great way to add suspense.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:31:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think it took away from any question about whether Janet would make it back or not.

It didn't really. ghost was pretty close to killing janet when she was her way back from the quantum relm so the suspense was still there. also they had janet in the flashback for the first scene, so either way, she had to be on the poster since she was integral to the story

TheHoundThatRides ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:29:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She's probably signed for multiple movies and put it as part of her contract. Thankfully I didn't notice the names on the poster beforehand. This was the most blind I'd gone into an MCU movie in a while.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Are you implying that there was even a slight chance that the resolution at the end wasnt going to happen?

Of course she was going to come back. Marvel have a big problem with these solo films and their incredibly predictable plots. There was no way that they werent going to save her, and therefore there are no stakes or tension for what is the major plot point.

We shouldn't be praising films like this. I want to be at the edge of my seat questioning what's going to happen next, not waiting for Walter Goggins' character to be thwarted and the mom to return from the Shadow Realm.

Peanutbutterbrownies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's exactly what I'm implying - normally I wouldn't have thought twice about it but after Infinity War raised the stakes, it wouldn't have been out of the question for them to pull some sort of twist. Since she was on the poster, I didn't even worry at all. Ruined a bit of the experience for me honestly

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Marvel just keep making the same tired film with the same tired plot. Most of the time it's well made, but a lot of these solo stories have been bang average.

The audience knew the entire plot of this movie after the first 10 minutes and that's simply unacceptable with the amount of money and supposed talent Marvel have under their belt.

Rologames ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can anyone give me a rundown on the second post credit scene? Saw the first one but didnโ€™t stay for the second.

MrLucky7s ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:14:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The giant ant is playing drums.

That's it, yes.

Rologames ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn. Sounds like I missed something wonderful

FlyteLP ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:42:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not that this is important but before it says "Ant-Man and The Wasp will return?" It shows the same sentence with a period and then it animates into the question mark. Just a small detail...

Kamwind ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, the ant drumming is in the ads; check youtube to see it.

Rologames ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:28:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah ik I was just joking. I missed nothing

petite_monstre ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:17:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

After the end of the credits, an extra scene returns to Scott's house where a TV is showing an emergency broadcast transmission. The camera pans around the house as the sound of drums can be heard. It's revealed that the giant ant Hank programmed to mimic the daily routines of Scott under house arrest is still there playing the drums.

The scene turns to black and the words, "Ant-Man and Wasp will return?" are displayed.

Random--Person ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:06:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Idk if I was just seeing things but it looked like there was a city type structure in the background when Pym and his wife were leaving the quantum relm

narenare658 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:38:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How does Scott keep getting in and out of his ankle bracelet after the first time Hope takes it off?

bargman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:52:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because the plot demands it.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:46:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shrink/expand?

narenare658 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That would require the suit to be wrapped around the bracelet which would shrink the bracelet down with him. He canโ€™t just shrink without putting the suit on first to get in and out of the bracelet.

1GUNNA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He can throw the shrink and enlarge discs at the bracelet

narenare658 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was implied Hope deactivated it and put it on the ant the first time, they never explicitly showed them throwing the discs at it. Just seems like a plot hole to me

SanityPills ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:17:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not really a plot hole, just not something worth spending screen time explaining. We're talking about a genius father/daughter team that literally work on shrinking technology. Do we need five minutes of screen time dedicated to how they got the ankle bracelet off and on?

gtsgunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:50:04 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How was that implied? It could have been implied that she made the bracelet big and just pulled it off his leg and then put it on the ants leg and shrunk it back to normal size.

WillTheGreat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:45:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I knew exactly what was gonna happen in the mid-credit scene, and even then I was caught off guard. The movie, the mid-credit was so good. The post credit...was a little meh, but like all things, balance was necessary.

mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:03 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kept thinking "someone is gonna disappear".

Abomm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:51:03 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Overall, I really liked this movie. I was satisfied with the action and there were also some great jokes.

My minor gripe that keeps this movie away from the rest of the great movies in the MCU is that I was a little let down by the villains of this movie; there seemed to be too many and they didn't get a lot of development.

There's Jimmy and the FBI but I'm guessing that's more for comedy than an actual threat to the mission to save Janet.

There's Sonny, the black market arms dealer, who doesn't really seem to have any motivations other than money. Is he working with someone? Is he just trying to force Hank to work for him? His FBI liaison just dies(?) but he continues the chase anwyay.

And then there's Ghost/Ava and Bill. Ghost's motives are pretty clear but it seems like she acts pretty selfishly considering she has a few weeks/days/hours (it wasn't really clear) to live after Janet comes back. Bill's motives confuse me as well, it's not clear if he still hates Hank or how he could still spite him for being discredited (despite being a university researcher?).

Johnny-Hollywood ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:19:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Bill is simple. He's a good dude, but he resents Hank and he wants to help someone else who Hank hurt.

VRomero32 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:09:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

and also part of it was ego as it was clearly stated... he thought he could save Ava and not kill Janet while doing it

banterminator ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:39:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the heart of the story was really Hank trying to find Janet. Everything else, including villains, is secondary (and I think thatโ€™s a good thing).

nomefish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:40:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really thought we were gonna learn who Goggins boss was in one of the stingers. I was kind of surprised that never developed.

Bullstang ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:07:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good movie. Great end credits scene

fvrdog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:29:02 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do we think that those glowing purple things are eyes, and if so, are they Thanos? Dormammu? Someone else?

https://imgur.com/Gq2H3wk

greatness101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:17 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What are we supposed to be looking at here? His background? That's just particles in the quantum realm. It's not a person or entity.

TheHoundThatRides ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Popular fan theory is Thanos. His presence just spread at the moment of the snap. Doubt it'd be Dormammu or some other entity cuz I just can't imagine them getting into having Antman fight a secondary antagonist in Avengers 4.

CynicalRaps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

it's just a wall of flashing colors, I don't get why people say they see thanos, I've watched the film twice and took vid of the ACS, dunno what people are seeing

fvrdog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:40 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

fvrdog

I feel the same, but they do look a bit like eyes, especially with the other stuff below kind of making out a face shape.

yumdomcha ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:46:37 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Whatโ€™s the timeline of IW, like wouldnโ€™t they have heard about the attack in NYC by now also werenโ€™t the ships appearing all over the world a considerable amount of time before the snap happens?

joker_75 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:08:31 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty sure the ship only showed up over NYC to get the Time Stone from Dr. Strange and then bounced.

InstaxFilm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:05 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Regardless, though, it would have made the news is what I think they meant. Like why didnโ€™t Ant Man & Co. link up with them after NY battle?

mikeweasy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:24:21 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They were on different sides of the planet. Plus they were in a rush.

camzabob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:40:16 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Like the other guy said, the ship was a brief appearance. Then it was mostly in space, except the Wakanda stuff, which was probably a few days until the big battle, then Thanos shows up and snap.

Black Widow says Scott's on house arrest before they go to Wakanda, so maybe that happens a few days before the snap, then the plot of AMATW in those few days.

mikeweasy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:24:02 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It seemed like everything in the movie besides the midcredit scene happened before the snap. Which means Scott/Antman was fully available to help the avengers, they just didnt call him.

Uncanny_Doom ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:44:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I felt like this movie overall was just really underwhelming and didn't fully go for interesting potential it had. It's not bad but it's not really solidly good to me either.

Some of the acting is really shaky at times, it feels overacted or unbelievable to me, particularly with Hope/Scott's "relationship" and Michael Douglas being angry or protesting in any moment. The antagonist situation in the movie is insanely messy. It's very clear that two characters we have on the table aren't cleanly cut villains when they're revealed but the film doesn't go as far as it should to let us understand Ghost for everything they say about her. The entire premise of her is cool and interesting, being perpetually in pain and on a timer to die, and having been a Shield operative assassin? That was something that sounded BIG when they mentioned it, but we just get a quick exposition montage instead of really being shown things that could've fleshed out her character more. It feels like Ghost is supposed to be important at the end of the movie but everything before that felt like some of the typical vanilla MCU villain stuff that people don't like to see. I feel like they could've made her a clearly detailed villain but even if they wanted to keep her how she was, Ghost needed more.

Because of the film's connection to Civil War and the lack of actually showing us much regarding Scott being on bad terms with Hank and Hope after the last movie ends with Hope and Scott kissing, I don't feel like we had a believable enough reason for their tension. Hope especially after coming off the first film where she stood out as being interesting seems overly grumpy and in bitch mode here. There's a lot of messy/lazy hand-wave storytelling, tons of technobabble mumbo jumbo that just had me losing attention. This really felt like a movie Marvel Studios probably wishes they could have put out earlier. Had this come out around Guardians Vol. 2 or Spider-Man time I think it just would've worked better. The bar has been raised so much in the MCU that right now Ant-Man and the Wasp just feels like a step back for quality that you can't make. It's hands down the weakest and least ambitious Phase 3 MCU movie. I don't hate it or anything, I think Paul Rudd's charming and the relationship with his daughter is very endearing in these films, but as far as a story and characters go it felt like Hank Pym was the only person really served in this story and it just doesn't work well as far as entertainment with the amount of screentime that's not executed as well for everyone else.

6/10 for me.

NowInUltraHD ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:59:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I 100% agree that when other movies like Spider-Man got to use the MCU to not have to spend time on narrating their movie Antman and the Wasp definitely suffered because a lot of the development of the story supposedly happened off screen and not even in another MCU movie. It feels like a whole movie or at least a short or tv episode was missing that gave us backstory. The whole story was pretty much meh and predictable but Iโ€™ll give it points for cool/different action scenes of shrinking/growing/phasing and an after credits scene that made the movie really worth it.

Someguy2020 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:44:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good points.

Had a lot of jokes stretched over too thin a plot. Ghost was an interesting idea but poor execution. Janet is the same thing. That truth serum scene just went on and on. Itโ€™s funny but not that funny. The action was solid.

Iโ€™d see a movie with more ghost. Iโ€™d see a movie with a more interesting rescue of Janet.

This one was just not that satisfying.

Dobokdude ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:07:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Interesting analysis. To be honest I actually have a theory that Ghost could be sort of an anti hero come the next Avengers film. Considering the 3/5 of the main people helping her have turned to dust, you have to wonder if she survived. If so she might still have her powers if they still needed the quantum energy.

Also to me part of this movie's charm to me is how it gives us a breather from the whole Thanos fiasco, gives us a still interesting story with jokes and action, then reminds us at the end that ''this is where the fun begins''.

Uncanny_Doom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:17:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sure Ghost will stick around and I'm okay with that because I think her character has potential. I think she could have been Killmonger-esque but I'm okay with her being an anti-hero or even transitioning to a hero after seeing her remorseful for some of the things she's done.

I don't mind the movie being a breather from Infinity War, I just felt like it seemed oddly underdeveloped in many areas, not just as part of the MCU, but as a sequel to it's own original film.

Dobokdude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Eh well I've never been too critical of this stuff so it was alright to me. But still, I regret not filming my reaction for the stings.

Someguy2020 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:45:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But the entire after credits scene felt racked on and out of place and ultimately just a lame way to take Scott out of the action so the original team can take one last crack at thanos. Same thing with the guardians of the galaxy, Black Panther, Spider-Man.

Dobokdude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:16:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think Ant Man is supposed to be crucial to Avengers 4, so we'll just have to see. For me it wasn't any worse than the other after credit scenes the series has.

NoDespair ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:52:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The movie was not very engaging. I was surprised at how much my mind wondered during it

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:43:39 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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fifam94 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:10:07 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hit the nail on the head for me

mtarascio ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:07:25 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I left the cinema kind of confused. I knew the movie was pretty decent but I just didn't enjoy it.

The plot part hit it on the head for me. The story is just so lazy, why did saving ghost need to kill Michelle Pfeifer?

How do they find Michelle Pfeifer? Wouldn't that microscale world being even more infinitesimal than our universe?

Why did they keep making their cars small or riding flying ants to get places quickly?!?!?!?!

camzabob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:12:56 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost and Bill Foster theorised that they could use quantum energy to heal Ghost, which Janet had been absorbing and they could extract by force.

My explanation for them being able find Janet despite the illogical idea of how small stuff is, is that they say the Quantum Realm ignores the concepts of space and time and is rather a separate dimension that is accessed by going so small.

NUJosh ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:20:24 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, riding the flying ant or whatever is for, like you said, to get places quickly, LOL.

Other than that I agree with everything you said here. Just didnโ€™t feel that marvel charm I usually feel. Felt like how I felt after watching Thor Dark World

WillieButtz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:17:16 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much agree with all of this. It's a shame that your post will be downvoted into obscurity. Thanks Marvel fanboys!

jfleit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:51:35 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Completely agree on every point.

In my theatre, everyone would erupt out into laughter at every shit-ly done comedic relief scene, and I just didn't get it. I'm not one to be a grump, I usually can appreciate the comedy when it's good. But it sucked. I laughed maybe once or twice in the whole movie, the same number of times you might laugh in a serious drama or action movie.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:38:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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JJMcGee83 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:35:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with your assessment. It felt like a complete lack of any conflict. The entire movie could have been avoided if instead of stalking Hank Ghost and Laurence Fishburne's character approached Hank like fucking adults 4 years ago or whenever it was that Ghost broke free from SHIELD.

Just a simple "Hey Hank here's a little girl I turned into a crazy phasing assassin but she's kind of dying and you know about quantum bullshit so maybe you and I can work on this together rather than just me in a old house somewhere."

Like man I get that they apparently kind of hated each other 30 years ago but I have trouble believing that he wouldn't put it aside to essentially save his pseudo adopted daughter. It seemed weird that he made her hate Hank only to change his mind last minute. I never once believed he wanted Hank, Hope or Scott dead.

Like maybe make Hank actually 100% responsible for the death of Ghost's mother and father then I would totally buy why she didn't want Hank's help and her hatred is a little more justified but Hank kind of hand waves it away and then it's never really brought up again.

Then at the end Ghost just disappears down an alleyway... so is she just running around free now?

And getting Janet seemed way too easy. Shrink and go on a Willy Wonka chocolate boat ride and there she is.

Also Walton Goggins is a fucking treasure and he felt wasted here. If he was going to be in MCU man he could have been a great villain somewhere.

mfranko88 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:12:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also Walton Goggins is a fucking treasure and he felt wasted here. If he was going to be in MCU man he could have been a great villain somewhere.

I totally agree. My best hope is that he gets the Andy Serkis treatment, and his character is randomly brought back for a more substantial role in a later MCU movie.

JJMcGee83 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That would actually be really cool. Also Andy Serkis looked jacked in Black Panther.

gtsgunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:53 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm guessing different humor for different folks. While I 100% agree with your assessment about tension. We are total opposites on the funny scale when it comes to comparing Ragnarok and this movie. I laughed many more times over to Ragnarok than I did to this movie. I think that just amounts to different personal tastes in humor. As you said though the story really lacked for the lack of a better word the tension it needed to really root for the characters.

muchmintern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:37 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, Iโ€™m not alone! I didnโ€™t think Ragnarok was that funny, it had about 5 jokes that made me chuckle, but I cringed during the Shake Weight and naked Hulk bits. Easily my least favorite Phase 3 movie. (Even though Vol. 2 had forced jokes, the heart, drama, visuals, music, and sincerity in it overrode the humor imo.)

AM&W was the complete opposite of Ragnarok for me because I thought it was hilarious almost all the time, maybe a handful of jokes fell flat but most were great. I was laughing hard at some scenes like Luisโ€™ recap, little Scott running around the school, ants getting chomped (rip) and every time Woo was on screen. It had some pacing issues, but the characters more than made up for that.

BusinessTransactions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:53 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah it feels like Ragnarok's humor gets graded on a curve because people weren't expecting it to be funny, so they got points for trying. The only line that REALLY got me was the Grandmaster saying "I now dismiss you from...life", everything else was just mildly amusing slapstick at best for me. I understand why someone would think it was funny, it just wasn't for me.

muchmintern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:01 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you! I'm so glad I'm not alone, although I'll be honest, I have way more vitriol toward Ragnarok. I don't think it's "fresh" and "new" because Thor just got rebooted into a Star-lord and Iron Man hybrid. Thor suddenly did a funny monologue like Stark in Iron Man 3. Thor got tased for laughs like Star-Lord in GotG. Thor got stuck in a space prison like the Guardians and they had to escape. Thor met lovable cgi characters like Rocket and Groot. I have SEEN all of that before. It's the only MCU movie I feel like I wasted money on.

Yeah only a few jokes landed with me, like Thor poking the paper going "Loki?" But the characters shouting "Devil's anus!" over and over was complete garbage. In contrast I thought almost all the jokes in Ant-Man & Wasp were handled much, much better, and it had an emotional core to support the humor, rather than just tiredly telling me "Asgard's a people" over and over, like.... sorry I just really hate that 2 hour snl sketch.

sexytraveler1 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:48:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was just really boring for me. And I'm bummed out because I love the first movie and Paul Rudd.

truebeliever157 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:06:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie just didnโ€™t feel as exciting as the first one, and the plot wasnโ€™t as focused in my opinion

yaoikin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:02:34 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It seems like everyone else loved it but I didn't find it that enjoyable. The main characters seemed like jerks in relation to ghost and the humor felt forced and overdone at times. The science talk wasn't funny and didn't even sound accurate and the movie had no interesting twists. Maybe I'm the wrong target audience but it felt like very much a movie for young kids with awkward attempts at adult humor and the gangster guys were cringey at best. It wasn't like a bad movie; just nothing special.

DukeNeverwinter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

too much monologuing. by all characters, not just the 'villains' edit:spelling...

El_Chupacabra- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

monologuing?

DukeNeverwinter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:06:54 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Strung out dialogue that serves no purpose and get in the way of plot progression. "Oh, lets stop and talk about something petty and insignificant while there is an immenent threat"

patgeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah it never really felt like they should've been fighting her. Felt like the hero path would've been to team up with her after Goliath revealed the situation, then together they would face the villain which would be the black market guy. But they never really built him into a credible enough threat to either group let alone them combined. So they needed to keep fighting ghost because the goons and government were never built into serious problems.

The whole we need to drain Hank's wife because she's soaked up quantum energy thing made no sense, surely one super genius would think "why not just build a container to capture the energy, instead of having to find someone that has been shrunk to a subatomic scale for 30 years, who may not even be alive" which is obviously what they did in the end credit scene with the container collecting quantum healing energy for their new ghost friend.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:32:45 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

everyone that is questioning why the ant-man group didn't participate in infinity war is mentally ill

mikeweasy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:22:47 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It seemed like everything in the movie besides the midcredit scene happened before the snap. Which means Scott/Antman was fully available to help the avengers, they just didnt call him.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:48:18 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"they just didnt call him"

BIG IF. Lets get some things clear. Natasha was aware that they couldn't contact Scott or Clint because they had families that relied on them. Even if they knew Scott was free, they wouldn't ask him to help because if Scott was seen associating with criminals like Cap/natasha/faclon, he would be a wanted person again. those 3 guys can be on the run forever but they know scott can not live that life with a daughter and wouldn't ask him to risk that.

Another point, Natasha and the squad wouldn't even know that scotts house arrest is over. not to the exact day.

Another point, Hank despices Stark and the Avengers. Also Hope and Hank were pissed at scott in civil war for interfering with the avengers and getting those 2 characters on the run. Scott has a close bond with those 2 characters and wouldn't dare hurt them like that again.

Another point, the attack on New York during infinity war was pretty short. In comparison to events that occured with Loki or Vulture in NY, sokovia in age of ultron, or first battle scene in civil war, or the first battle scene with hydra in age of ultron, that new york fight was over in minutes and as far as scott was concerned, it was over. occurrences in the mcu world are pretty common. there are probably way more battles that are not on screen that the avengers faced.

as for the wakanda battle, only characters with advanced tech like nick fury knew something happened in wakanda but he didnt even know what. just high energy around the area. remember in wakanda, unless you go through that portal, everything in wakanda looks like regular african land.

ScarecrowTEP ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:30:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really didn't like most of this movie. It had some funny moments but for me they were few and far between. One of my major gripes was that I didn't care for Michelle Phipher's character. She was in the movie for maybe 15 minutes and I didn't see any reason to care about their family dynamic. Same goes for Ghost, the exposition dump with her and Lawrence Fishburne was painful to sit through. Some of the funniest moments was the scene where Ghost pops up into the interrogation of Michael Pena, along with school break in. But overall I just didn't care about the movie. I would love to hear some counter opinions and have a good discussion with people who enjoyed the film.

ryantyrant ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:39:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My biggest issue with the movie is the amount that they turn to the camera and say "hey this is what's going on"

ScarecrowTEP ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:57:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yea the exposition was really bad.

Dallywack3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank: How do we technobabble the technobabble?

Janet: We have to technobabble the suit's technobabble before we can technobabble the technobabble.

Larry Fishburne: Technobabble Technobabble I HATE HANK PYM Technobabble Technobabble

Paul Rudd: Joke about technobabble (insert laugh track here)

ryantyrant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Roll credits

Dallywack3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The prologue should've been Ghost's origin. We already know the story of Janet and Hank.

marsman57 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:57:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The mid-credits sequence doesn't really make much sense when you think about it after the fact. If he was already released from house arrest, did he miss the TV stories about Thanos in NYC? Did "Cap" not call him? Did he say he wasn't interested in helping after risking his life to help one person? Why are they working out of the van?

Chicagospawn6 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:26:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When was Thanos in NYC? Ebony Maw and obsidian was in NYC. Short fight then the rest in space. Fight way later in Wakanda where Thanos shows up and does the snap. Plus Antman is in California. Odds of hearing about are slim. Maybe about hearing Tony missing.

PS loved the movie. Felt like a rescue mission more than a straight villain movie. Like that lighter feel for his movies. 8.5/10

marsman57 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:43:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're right. I said Thanos, but I meant his children. It still strikes me as a newsworthy event. The throwaway line in Infinity War was that Scott had cut a deal with the government. We find out the details of that now, but we also find out that he is willing to flaunt the deal to an extent.

Basically, I'm curious if the Avengers didn't even call him, assuming he would be unwilling to join.

I loved the movie and agree with your 8.5/10, but everyone is all "OMG" about the credits sequence, and I think that was probably one of the weaker parts. If it had been released prior to Infinity War, it may have been more surprising. But then, they would have been more careful in revealing Thanos' goals because you'd know he won.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:17:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The thing is that the attack on New York was over and done fairly quickly. The Maw and Cull attacked and were gone within the hour, so as far as anyone around was concerned, the event was over. Lang was in California while this was happening. The only other people aware of the full extent of what happened were Banner, Rhodes, and Roger's team - all of them went to Wakanda. No one would be reporting on that because it happened in secret.

Why didn't anyone call Lang? No one knew his house arrest has ended.

Essentially, the attack on New York passed as typical hero shit. Until Thanos used the full gauntlet, there was no ongoing state of emergency.

yoonchae ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:08:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Basically, I'm curious if the Avengers didn't even call him, assuming he would be unwilling to join.

I'd like to assume Cap wanted to respect Scott and Clint's decision to be with their families by accepting the house arrest arrangement. Cap, Falcon, Nat, and Rhodey knew they were going against the Accords once they ignored Ross' warning. Might be the reason why Nat had to mention Scott and Clint's situation the very next scene, to imply that they won't bother calling for their help.

onephatkatt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:29:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, so real life Aliens from another world show up and California doesn't get it on TV or the internet? That shit would be lighting up all media.

the_vince_horror ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:49:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Aliens are already common place in the MCU. The average citizen already knows they exist.

onephatkatt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I still think two new life forms showing up and attacking Iron Man, Spiderman and Dr. Strange would warrant all kinds of media attention.

the_vince_horror ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:38:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sure, but it's entirely possible that three incredibly scientists are either not glued to their tvs or were not informed the threat level of it all. Remember, Nick Fury didn't even call in Ms. Marvel until the very last second.

onephatkatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

OK, not one of them looked at their cell phones during the entire time this took place. I get tons of meaningless notifications everyday. I'm still not convinced.

the_vince_horror ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I get tons of meaningless notifications everyday.

I wouldn't compare your life to a scientist if you're not a scientist.

onephatkatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're right, they never read the news.

the_vince_horror ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who says they didn't know about the events? Why do they have have to have a full fledge conversation while they're doing something unrelated? Do they have to take the day off to show their respects? Does Scott need to pass out in a van so he can wake up in another part of the world? I think you're forgetting that Ant-man and Wasp were never Avengers

dewsh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It probably would but we don't know what the media said. Iron Man, Spider-man, and two unknown wizards repelled the attack pretty quickly. The ship flew off. End of threat?

Remember this is in a world where a city fell from the sky, a man flies with a hammer around London fighting Elves, a giant blob starts eating a town in Missouri, etc. Not every conflict is going to call in every hero.

onephatkatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We saw it made news in the UK in the Infinity War movie, I'm sure it made news in California.

dewsh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I meant more global attacks happen more often now. The media doesn't have a great way of examining the threat and no one called Scott for backup. How would he know should go help? The news doesn't know Thanos is coming or what he's looking for. Only people on Earth that do are wanted fugitives and a penniles sorcerer. And they didn't call Scott or Clint.

SalukiKnightX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I took the events of Infinity War lasting at best two days on Earth. In that time frame: day 1 - Tony, Parker & Strange disappear and arrive in space. Day 2 - The Battle on Wakanda and the snap.

For this movie to be affected, they first all get the news of an event in New York that lasted shorter than "The Event" causing less damage but led to the departure and disappearance of Tony Stark, someone both Pym and Lang aren't too fond of. Then next day, while doing experiments either to prepare or to test out, they get caught up in the snap.

Upsilodon ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:00:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Most likely โ€œCapโ€ and the gang had no idea Scott got out of house arrest, and Scott just decided to work with the Pyms instead.

marsman57 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:52:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is my thought. I think I replied elsewhere that I'm guessing they didn't even call him and just assumed he was unavailable.

dewsh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Even if Cap knew, I don't think he would call Scott or Clint as it would endanger their ability to ever see their families again. Steve would probably respect their choice of taking a deal.

beefytrout ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:22:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The NYC attacked probably lasted 20 minutes, and they obviously didn't know the Wakanda attack was coming.

It's really not a stretch to fill in the blanks as to why Ant-Man wasn't around.

marsman57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The timeline of the Wakanda attack is pretty confusing to be honest. How does the Nick Fury post-credit scene go from them detecting the signature to people being snapped in less than 30 seconds?

I thought that maybe they were detecting the energy of the snap itself, but that doesn't really match up with what Maria said about the energy signature.

nviledn5 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:03:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The battle didn't really last that long in real time, and perhaps Maria hill was just getting an alert about the ships over Wakanda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPesf7N6-Gk

beefytrout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My impression is that they didn't get immediate notification about the assault.

nviledn5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Right, same.

kshalloran90 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:11:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's mentioned by Woo in a conversation with Cassie that Scott will be on parole for 3 years after his house arrest. Maybe Scott thinks it's easier to fly under the radar and not violate the terms of his parole if he works with Hank, Hope and Janet versus The Avengers.

liam3 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:14:53 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't see the thanos film, but am aware of the great thanos snap of Reddit, then I saw this film tonight, and the ending scene made soon much sense.

also, what was ava's motive with the lab exactly? couldnt they just tell her, it will take them 2 hours to try and get their mother back and after that we can all use the lab to help her.

dookoo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:23:47 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought that too but Ava was dying and she couldn't be reasoned with. She's been through so much in her life and so much pain that she was tired of waiting. Morpheus promised to fix her and he couldn't. Ava was not going to take the promise of another scientist.

jcorona57 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:39:02 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol I love how you call him Morpheus, that's what I kept calling him in the movie too

bikbao ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:44:44 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My thought exactly but then I think that she's already fed up with all the promises about a cure and she didnt trust anyone anymore

Vorcana ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:05:49 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Noticed that too. One explanation I thought of is how we're irrational when under immense pain. And I think they tried to go that route too, but they could've done a better job establishing it imo.

HesiPullOutJimbo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:02:25 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

curious as to why you saw this but not infinity war?

liam3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:53 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No real reasons, I just missed it. Didnt plan ahead

DrMasters ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:23:18 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Movie was good just needed to be ~20 minutes shorter and it would've been better. Baba yaga is spreading everywhere! John Wick... I mean ghost is coming for ya

LuckyCapt-RabbitKing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:07 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

why is Wick called Baba Yaga? I thought Baba Yaga was a witch(female).

svel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:02:13 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

they sort of fix that in the next line of dialogue in "John Wick"

Viggo Tarasov: That fuckin' nobody is John Wick. He was once an associate of ours. We called himโ€ฆBaba Yaga.
Iosef Tarasov: "The Boogeyman"?
Viggo Tarasov: Well, John wasn't exactly "The Boogeyman". He was the one you sent to kill the fuckin' Boogeyman.
Iosef Tarasov: โ€ฆOh.

ricardoruben ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:57 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

it sounds cooler than boogeyman

RayzTheRoof ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:55:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One of the worst Marvel movies in recent years imo. Aside from the one-dimensional villain and horrible subplot with the southern guy, there was just no cool Ant-Man action scenes. The Wasp had a cool kitchen scene but aside from that there were no cool tiny scenes. I think there were literally zero interesting tiny Ant-Man scenes. No set pieces that compare to the first film's building diorama, drain pipe infiltration, underground ant tunnels, briefcase fight, and the train set. Nothing even comes close to being an interesting or creative sequence for Ant-Man in this film.

edit: stop downvoting an opinion you disagree with, this thread is for discussing the film and opinions

AlconTheFalcon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:00:37 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought the Giant Man and toddler man sequences were creative/interesting.

backfire97 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:07:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

while the toddler sequence was fine for a simple laugh, i felt like it was unnecessary. They could just as well have found his suit at his home. If i had to say, I would say that, on top of the comedy, served to reinforce his connection to his daughter, which I feel didn't add much to the movie in terms of enjoyment.

mogwainot ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:50:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You actually struck on something I felt was missing but couldnโ€™t pinpoint it. I really did miss the tiny Ant-man adventures from the first one. Good point. I donโ€™t agree with the villain being one dimensional. Which villain and what dimension? Iโ€™m not sure there is a conventional villain. Itโ€™s just a smattering of antagonists which is kind of refreshing.

Also Iโ€™m not sure calling a movie the worst Marvel movie of recent years is even a critique. There has been such a ridiculous high bar set in recent years. I loved the movie yet I still might call it one of the worst mcu films of recent years. Though Iโ€™m all for people downvoting opinions in pursuit of objective truth and appreciation of quality, I donโ€™t believe your post deserves that. Have an upvote.

davinitupoverhere ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:34:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why is everyone downvoting this? He makes good points!

The villains were bad, and going small in this movie was mainly used to disappear. The fight scenes in general felt pretty lame.

Iโ€™ll add: Ghost and Bill Foster were bad characters/antagonists, the glossed-over fact that Pym screwed over Foster at some point early on, and the terrible Janet-evolved-and-can-heal-Ghost-for-no-reason final act. Despite some funny moments from the supporting cast, this was a step down from the original imo.

RayzTheRoof ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:39:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not sure either man. I love all Marvel films and had no expectations for this movie, and I could have forgiven a lot of the villain stuff if at least the shrinking/growing action was interesting. And I didn't even get into the hokey magic powers stuff (the takeover of Lang's body, and the healing powers). I never had trouble suspending my disbelief in a Marvel movie until this film.

davinitupoverhere ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:46:25 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s a really good way of putting it - suspending disbelief.

I am also a huge fan of all the Marvel movies. My fiancรฉe and I watched Ant Man this weekend and were both so excited by the beginning of this movie - theyโ€™re gonna find Hopeโ€™s mom! - but we were both so disappointed by everything that happened after the first 20-30 minutes. Aside from the crazy logic of this film (Ghostโ€™s suit helps her control her powers? What?) it was also just kinda slow as well, and the characters didnโ€™t feel like they grew at all like they did in the first Ant Man.

Anyway, ignore the downvote party. Itโ€™s their loss for not even trying to appreciate your honest criticism of the film. No movie is perfect, and we donโ€™t need to act like it is just because itโ€™s Marvel.

(BTW, despite the problems I thought this was still better than most action movies, or any DC movie - but I thought it just wasnโ€™t quite up to Marvelโ€™s usual standard, considering how good their movies have been recently.)

RayzTheRoof ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:55:01 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree, better than other films but that doesn't give it a free pass to be mediocre in Marvel's slew of movies. I think an overlooked issue is the characters and lack of a good arc for Scott as well. The characters and plot try to push him towards being the hero and helping Hank and Hope get their mother back. Even his daughter tries to convince him to go help them and risk FBI arrest again. But Hope and Pym KIDNAPPED Scott and forced him to help. And he did his job later in the film, and shouldn't be mad at him for wanting to go home so the FBI doesn't catch him again. He needs to be there for his daughter and it's straight up irresponsible for him to risk imprisonment again. He is pushed towards making a decision that goes against Pym and Hope's own goal. They want Janet back and don't want her gone forever, but by aiding them Scott risks being gone from his daughter forever.

fede01_8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:05 on October 30, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

horrible subplot with the southern guy

How memorable this movie must be that I watched it 2 nights ago and cant remember what you're talking about

RayzTheRoof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:23 on October 30, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And I just saw this notification and had no idea what the hell it was referring to.

CMDRColeslaw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:02:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked it, but coming off of movies with significant weight like Black Panther and Infinity War I will say that it feels like there is less at stake. The driving force of the movie is the quest for Janet and there was never really any risk there. Seeing the first Ant-Man and seeing the trailers for this movie should clue people in to its lighter tone and allow them to enjoy it for the adventure romp that it is, but if you were expecting something more dramatic, waiting for that to happen could possibly make the film feel like it was dragging along. Personally I thought it was great and fun and broke away from the mold of "hero and villain w/ matching power sets" like the majority of superhero movies, including the first Ant-Man. Some of the best fight scenes are with the creative use of different power sets against one another, which is why this movie, Spiderman: Homecoming, the Ant-Man vs. Falcon scene, and the battle between Cap and Tony are so memorable to me. Ghost is sweet for what we see of her, and I would enjoy seeing her further humanized in the future.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:27:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked it, but coming off of movies with significant weight like Black Panther and Infinity War I will say that it feels like there is less at stake.

Honestly it was refreshing not to have some dumb world ending plot. It's a more "ant" sized story.

"Significant weight" to me just means ridiculous over-dramatic stakes that of course aren't going to get blown(except in Infinity War's case but even the consequences clearly aren't very "devastating", nobody is actually dead from the snap.)

It's really hard for me to get behind any film that uses such stakes anymore.

CornDogMillionaire ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:59:46 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was pretty good, obviously Paul Rudd was great and the guy who played Luis was great too. Something did feel a bit off though, I'm not sure what it was. I think it tried a bit too hard to be funny at times.

Also what was the deal with the lead FBI agent? He was funny but he had a really weird vibe too. I think at one point he said "what the dickens" which I don't think I've ever heard anyone actually say out loud before

jonsnowme ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:16:57 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"what the dickens"

I think that was the point of the character, he was already giving off a weird, nerdy and wholesome vibe. It was completely in character for him.

AzumaMagica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:20 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He mentioned quite blatantly that he moonlights as a youth pastor, so...

CornDogMillionaire ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:21:46 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that makes sense. Was he in the first one? Or in any other marvel films? I just felt like I was missing something the whole time with him

jonsnowme ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:23:01 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He wasn't in the first one, brand new character. I love the actor so I hope they feature him more and I like what they did with him. I like that there was a good attempt to make him unique instead of just another stone faced, boring FBI agent always shaking his fist at Ant-Man/Scott.

CornDogMillionaire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:20 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ok then, fair enough. I like the actor too, but I just felt like I was missing some set up for him, he seemed to come out of nowhere which I thought was strange for a character who was, as you say, so out of the traditional mould of an FBI agent

jonsnowme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:29 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just am not sure where else he would have come from/how else they would have introduced him. He was assigned to Scott's house arrest case which wasn't featured in the previous films. Maybe they just did a bad job of stating that off the bat, I'm not sure.

CornDogMillionaire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:50 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah idk either, I've only seen bits and pieces of ant man 1 so I just assumed that maybe he was in that. At the end of the day he was still a good character so I'm not too bothered

Orleanian ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:53:12 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's meant to be portrayed as a wholesome, well-intentioned agent on the rise.

NorskChef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:58 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly. Asian Jim is also a youth pastor

Lionwolfe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:46:43 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked the movie despite it not being what I think it could have been.

My favorite part was the mid-credits scene. It was brilliant. It raised the stakes very high and very quickly.

I liked the characters, including Sunny, despite him not being much of a threat. He was a nice and entertaining addition that showed the lengths the Pyms were ready to go to to get Janet back.

Pena stole his scenes. And his chatter-boxing flashback was brilliant. I guess the production team saw it as a hilarious comedy routine and decided that they must have it in the second movie.

Sadly, there wasn't enough Wasp + Ant-Man action, for which we can blame story reasons. [First of all, Scott was reluctant to help the Pyms until Cassie convinced him to. At first, he had to get back to his house arrest. Once he realized that's not happening, he excused himself, saying "I screw everything up" and "I have no idea what you said" (referring to all the science Scottie has no idea about). Then his daughter literally tell him to help the Pyms and Scottie can't use any excuses anymore.

Then, we have the Pyms and Lang not talking to each other for two years problem.](#spoiler) What do you think this does to trust and teamwork? It's a marvel the three were able to make it work, especially considering Hank's ego issues.

Another problem I have with the movie are the generic forest sounds. We have James Gunn with his two volumes of Guardians, and now we have generic forest sounds. Ugh. Just record the actual sounds in the forest in the scene or forego the sounds altogether!

Lionwolfe ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:44:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for the downvotes!

PopcronHD ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:18:37 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I felt the movie was extremely boring.

I didn't even have high expectations. The first movie was meh, and it was coming right off of Infinity War but going with the normal Marvel tone.

Yet I couldn't help but just not care about anything happening. It was constant "cat and mouse" chasing without anything interesting truly happening during the chase. It felt like the movie decided they would just keep making things big or small, and hope that would be entertaining in itself, but it didn't work for me. None of the action sequences were memorable for me, and I wish it some could have been slightly more complex with the big/small gimmicks.

The one highlight I took away from this movie was Michael Pena's character. He was fun in the first movie, and continued it here. Only portion of the movie I personally enjoyed :/

yrqrm0 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:12:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was surprised IW wasn't acknowledged til the mid-credits scene. I kept expecting it to play into the last act somehow. For me it made the mid-credits scene have 0 emotional value, because after the credits started I was just thinking "Ok, here comes the IW acknowledgment scene where people start fading". I did think the emergency broadcast at the very end was cool, it made me excited for IW2. Seeing the Ant on the drums added nothing though, since we had seen it in the trailers.

Uncanny_Doom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:49:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I actually wished we didn't see the ant and just got that ominous beeping of the emergency broadcast, and instead of the funny "Ant-Man and the Wasp will return...?" bit, just give us "Thanos will return."

Just go all in on this, Marvel.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is this better than the first?

dtc413 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:06:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes

whiskeybill ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:30:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Its subjective. I liked the 1st better but it seems most like this one better.

ktchong ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:32:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A little better than the first.

ReflexImprov ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:48:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. Both are great. I'd rank them in the bottom half of the list of MCU movies, but we're also talking about a series of movies that have been primarily awesome overall, so that's not a bad thing.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:29:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No most of them have been decent or acceptable, some are awesome and 1-2 are trash.

kdawgnmann ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:41:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No. First one was funnier, had a more compelling narrative, and more relatable characters. This one wasn't bad, but not particularly great either.

tigerdrummer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No.

wutdefukk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:18:44 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty awesome soundtrack . I love Michael Pena. Ghost is pretty cool and hot. Paul Rudd and Evangeline lily are awesome , but the romance felt iffy. Pretty cool fight scene. Could tone down on the exposition.

Felt weird without an boss battle at the end. But thats cuz i been watching too many blockbusters lately

acedelgado ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:17:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The actress that played Ghost was the main character on SyFy's Killjoys. Glad she's getting more exposure, she's both talented and gorgeous.

evglabs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:29:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is, Killjoys has two more seasons!

acedelgado ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:46 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh nice, thought they canceled it like all of their good shows!

evglabs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:52 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I know :( but Killjoys survived with two season is to wrap it up.

PussyJuiceBox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:25:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She been in some high profile movies already... Tomb raider, Ready player one

acedelgado ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good point, but she had a much more prominent role in this one.

Honda_Driver_2015 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:43:48 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

DEATH COUNT - 0. This could of been just PG I think.

Turnabout506 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:26:29 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How rude, you dare forget ANTonio Banderasโ€™ death by the jaws of a bloodthirsty seagull?!

1person12 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:58:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Unless you count the post credit scene. Then itโ€™s probably a few trillion at least.

Honda_Driver_2015 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:00:01 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

well, yeah.

dbadefense1990 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:05:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Around 3.75 billion people perished during the post credits on one finger snap taking place in Wakanda.

JVortex888 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:57:02 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The snap wasn't just for Earthlings though.

Mechabot5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:21 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was it for the whole universe? Did they state that?

Zer0Fucks2Give ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:26 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, they did, and the heroes who dissolved on Titan (including several non-Earthling Guardians) just underscores that point

WorkAllDayOnly1Money ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:53 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There are people on other planets too

Dhylan18 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:08:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That you see. I imagine a lot of those goons in the cars had pretty critical injuries.

ilikehockeyandguitar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:57 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think all MCU movies are just an automatic PG-13 at this point.

bigdaddyguap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:34 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is no gonna talk about how cliche the ending was? It came off as lazy to me (not the after credits scene.) I just think they couldโ€™ve drew something up better than everyone ended up stereotypically happy.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:10:13 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but isnโ€™t that the point of the end credits scene, not everyone did end up happy. And even if they did, whatโ€™s wrong with that?

desperaste ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:45:32 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The previous movie literally killed half the cast at the end. A happy ending is fine by me.

KandarpBhatt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:01:08 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This. Palate cleanser.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:29 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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jfleit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:56:29 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I almost started counting the number of cliche movie lines. If anyone goes back and listens closely, so many of the lines in this script were stereotypical action/superhero movie lines/scenes.

MechaMonarch ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:20:31 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I had a lot of issues with the logic of the film, but it was funny and a pretty good sequel for a Marvel character.

Save Winter Soldier, pretty much every second installment for a Marvel hero has issues.

Some of the things I had trouble with:

Scott had a new suit in Civil War. They made a big deal about him scuttling the old suit, but weren't there two Ant Man suits out there?

Why were Ghost and Bill Porter openly opposing the Ant Family? Their end goal was to enter the Quanum Realm and find Janet. Wouldn't a last-minute-double-cross been infinitely easier?

Just what are the rules for shrinking? The lab was shrunk, but then shrunk again while inside a getaway vehicle. Why not just double-shrink it and keep it in a pocket?

I realize Scott was under house arrest, and wasn't really deemed a threat, but did they have no other way to track or survey him other than to March through his front door? His known associates possess technology deemed dangerous to mankind, but they didn't even keep track of his personal cell phone?

Despite the nitpicking, Paul Rudd is a treasure, Martin Sheen is amazing, and who doesn't love seeing more Luis?

KidDBrock ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:42:10 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Martin Sheen?

AnAmericanWerewolf11 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:42:15 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That is Michael Douglas not Martin Sheen FYI lol

Grokrok ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:36:39 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Michael Douglas wants a word with you...

RahulBhatia10 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:36:50 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol Martin Sheen? Isn't that the robot bartender from Passengers lmfao

befree1231 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:47:01 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't hate it by any means but I definitely didn't think it was as good as the first one. I'm slightly confused by all the comments about how well all the jokes hit in this one and how much funnier it was than the first. I thought it was the complete opposite. Maybe because my expectations weren't very high before I watched the original, but I found the first one surprisingly hilarious. This movie was a perfect example of someone trying to shoe horn jokes into spots where they theoretically should fit, because they worked in the first one and got laughs, but you can't catch lightening in a bottle twice.

I could go on about other things like having two under developed villains (mainly used just to make the chase scenes bigger I guess?) Walton Goggins character served exactly zero purpose, which sucks, because he's an amazing actor.

I'm just honestly surprised at how many people are going gaga over this movie when I thought it was mediocre at best. Maybe I'm wrong/in the minority, but the comments/love have surprised me to say the least. Not to say it's bad or anything. It's a perfectly fine blockbuster MCU movie, I just thought the first one was a whole lot better.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:05:45 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree. The film wasn't bad, but it wasn't something I'd be interested in watching again, either.

ProtoReddit ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:29:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Perfectly balanced. As all things should be.

But seriously - this film had it all. Heart. Humor. Action. Equal billing for our heroes not just in title but in the content itself. Not to mention three great antagonists, two of which not only survived - but had meaningful motivations and arc fulfillments!

Overall, this ends up somewhere in my top... 8? For the MCU. Really really good throughout, I thought.

weaslebubble ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

3? Who died?

Longshot365 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:25 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Woo ghost and mobster. No one died. Not sure where that was coming from.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:34:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That mid-credits scene is another reminder why Thanos' plan is dumb. He's killing way more than 50% of people - anyone in a situation like Scott, or they're on a plane, car on 2-lane highway, etc. is fucked.

[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 14:49:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t think he cares.

Laser_Gunns ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:01:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

His goal isnโ€™t to kill half of life, his goal is to preserve resources by killing half of life. Big difference.

If some more than that die, itโ€™s not a big deal.

[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:48:11 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's not dumb, its collateral damage.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:42:57 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really just wanted to come in and have fun at a Marvel movie... but that movie was so bad.

JanuaryDynamite ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:42 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I already gave my personal opinions on the actual movie but I just wanted to discuss the after credits scene and get it off my chest.

I feel Scott getting stuck in the Quantum Realm just because the Pym family got "snapped" was pretty unwarranted. If we're to assume that Thanos snapped in that exact moment at Wakanda, how come everyone there just seemed so nonchalant on a potential alien invasion? New York was attacked earlier (granted Ant-Man takes places in California but still), Iron Man went missing and it made national news, and I'm sure governments and scientists around the world would've noticed giant extraterrestrial objects heading towards Africa.

I think doing a dangerous and time-sensitive experiment on the roof of a building during a time like that would be irresponsible. Let alone doing it without having the technology for the user in the Quantum Realm to return on their own should something go wrong on the Pym family end.

OscarMiguelRamirez ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:12:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They are used to the Avengers doing their thing, and they had no idea about Wakanda or the stakes. Hank was always very happy to stay out of that stuff. And they had to get Ghost her quantum healing stuff, it seemed pretty clear that the machine worked well and they weren't concerned about any issues.

Fury didn't even seem to be aware of what was happening until it was too late.

[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:50:10 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i doubt anyone knew what was happening at wakanda. only characters with advance tech like Samuel L. Jackson knew something occured there and he didn't even know what. just high energy around that area. remember wakanda is pretty secluded from the rest of the world. until you actually get in wakanda through that field, it looks like basic African land.

As for the New York battle involving Tony Stark, shit happens in New York all the time basically from Loki to Vulture. also, the only way characters like wanda or vision knew about it was through watching tv and i doubt scott or the pym family watch tv that often

Nollasta_poikkeava ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:52:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They probably didn't know about what was happening in Wakanda, because Fury was just learning about it in Infinity War scene.

ObsiArmyBest ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:54:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They weren't doing an experiment. They were trying to make sure Ghost stayed out of quantum phases. They were doing it on the rooftop because they're still not legally allowed to sue this tech and need to be low key.

Maybe they were trying to leverage the tech to help against Thanos on their own? We don't know the details and they wouldn't have known of the snap coming at that exact moment. Maybe they thought things were focused in Wakanda for now.

DarkLordKohan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:26 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Infinity war takes place over a relatively short period of time. Maybe like one or two days. The only events they might even know about are New York and that lasted maybe an hour and a day or two before the snappening.

They could definitely think its no big deal to be 3000 miles away from New York. Won't be the first time a major event happened somewhere else in the world. Iron Man fights all over the world, Spiderman is New York, Avengers New York and Sokovia, Hulk is Brooklyn and New York, Thor is New Mexico, Cap America is DC, UN and Germany. Even Dr Strange wraps up Hong Kong like it didnt happen.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:33:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A fun movie, but one of the more forgettable in the MCU. The finale is one of the MCU's best and Ant-Man's powers are fun to see onscreen, but the stakes are really low and the movie doesn't do anything different for the genre like the last few.

mrsunshine1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:21:40 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The low (in other words, personal) stakes was a plus for me. Refreshing to see an engaging plot that's not about the "fate of the galaxy" etc.

canopey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:57:44 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He meant stakes not in the literal physical sense, but the emotional/moral sense. Obviously if the world is at stake then we can't let that happen, but if the "stake" chooses to focus on one character (in this case Janet Van Dyke) ---or a smaller group of people like in The Dark Knight--then the stakes need to have an actualy capacity to carry considerable weight. Which in the case of Janet in Antman and the Wasp, possessed no actual "stake."

You didn't really gather an actual sense of who she is after rescuing her, how she's alive, or any relevations from her. That is why the stakes fell short, and "doesn't do anything different" as /u/RedBarrel puts it.

leo-g ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:51:24 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Would argue, the stakes are highest for the character. I wish they made the just-in-the-nick-of-time moments more exciting.

RowBoatCop1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:47:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wish they could have played up the fact that Wasp is actually the hero of the movie who does all the cool shit and Ant-Man is more or less Jack Burton from Big Trouble in Little China. They kind of do it but it doesn't feel intentional. There's really no reason why Rudd's Ant-Man needs to be in these movies when Wasp does everything better than him.

What is the timeline with this and Avengers: IW? Why wasn't Ant-Man and Wasp off fighting Thanos? Did they miss the news on what was happening in New York and Wakanda? IW spans like 2-3 days max so where were they?

Young CGI Laurence Fishburne looked weird then I found out his son played him.

beefytrout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Feels like the movie spells it out for us. They weren't really in a position to be checking news broadcasts.

RowBoatCop1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:04:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How? Did I miss a scene or line that says the film is taking place concurrently alongside Avengers? The mid credit scene is set a week at the earliest after the movie ends.

ScarecrowTEP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Agree about the Thanos fight, but my friends convinced me that it's not worth nit picking that aspect.

SpiderRealm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:05:22 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I remember when the first Ant Man came out and I told myself I wasn't going to like it, so I never saw it...this movie was so good! I'm so glad I didn't watch the first movie, cause now I've got an Ant Man movie to watch to help with the excited buzz this wonderful movie left me! :p

Cum_on_doorknob ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:35:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I canโ€™t believe people like you exist. Who sees a sequel without seeing the original?

mikeweasy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:45:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah what the hell is that about???

Cybersteel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:34:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I watched the return of the King without the other two

IceKane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I've watched Deadpool 2 without seeing the first

SpiderRealm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:06 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Someone who didn't care that it was a sequel and wanted to just spend time with their family. Besides, there was never a point in the movie where I was confused because I didn't see the first one, so it was all good.

Shortstop88 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:16:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like you might have not understood a decent amount of the references made in regards to what happened in the first movie by not watching it. Should have probably watched it before going to see this.

SpiderRealm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:18:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It never once crossed my mind to see the first movie before seeing this one, but the movie was still amazing even with missing some of the references.

AlvinItchyCock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If its a Marvel film it is good bet that it is going the be entertaining in theaters at least.

mikeweasy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:45:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So common sense never crossed your mind??

SpiderRealm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:48:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't really care. I was still believing I wouldn't like the movie when I walked into the theater until I actually saw it and completely loved it.

mikeweasy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:44:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Youre weird dude, you didnt watch the first one?? Are you five??

SpiderRealm ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:49:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're getting strangely offended by my decision to not watch the first movie.

mikeweasy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:52:19 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Probably

fuzzyperson98 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:44:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was very disappointed with the after-credits scene. It would have been funnier if they hadn't already done the joke of the ant playing the drums in the movie itself and just feels like they added that because they knew they needed to add something. Ultimately a very very minor gripe on what was a great film

PKghost ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 13:17:39 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think an interesting aspect of that is that while some found it to be an end credit gag, others found it eerie and disturbing. Itโ€™s a window into the post snap world. You have an empty house with the TV alarm going off, with only a programmed ant going through his daily motions undisturbed for who knows how long.

BrandOfTheExalt ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:32:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The dead silence aside from the emergency distress alarm and the drumming was very chilling.

mrsunshine1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:42:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Like that Ray Bradbury story about the self-automating house functioning after nuclear war.

smitty3257 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:36:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What a great sequel! Marvel is really hitting their stride with the humor.

kdawgnmann ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:44:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tbh I thought the first one was way funnier

Dallywack3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah twenty films ago, their humor sucked. But now, their humor is really hitting its stride (obvious /s because Iron Man 1 has tons of great jokes)

AlbinoStepchild ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:47 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly didn't think that everyone would make it to the end of the movie alive. I thought Janet was going to betray Hank and kill him. Clearly I was wrong.

Bomber131313 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:41:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought Janet was going to betray Hank and kill him

Any reason why you had this theory?

AlbinoStepchild ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:32:55 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The formal introduction to Janet seemed fake, like it was too good to be true. After 30 years of being stuck in the Quantum Realm, I would think she would want revenge for what happened to her.

Bomber131313 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:16:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would think she would want revenge for what happened to her.

Why? Revenge on who? She choose to do that herself.

greatness101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:28:01 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And she also knew they had been working the entire 30 years to find a way to free her.

r0flhouse ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:24:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dont know why you're being downvoted. I think a small group of people were theorizing that Janet would turn out to be bad after being driven insane by being gone for so long.

AlbinoStepchild ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:16 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like her formal introduction felt too good to be true

compatrini ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:12 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't see any prerelease info so I don't know if it was mentioned, but I thought for sure Ghost was Janet

greatness101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:36 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought when Ghost first showed up until her reveal that she was Janet.

averagejoeredditor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:44:25 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Antman 2 was better than the first one!!!! I wish Luis storytelling lasted a bit longer ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ but other than that it was dope. Currently watching the end credits.....wonder what's gonna happen? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

P1SONET ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:54:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was a let down. I was hoping they would explore the sub atomic or whatever it is you call it world. Instead we got Scott trying to use a broken antman suit.

badtwinboy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:32:01 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I see potential for a crossover with Dr. Strange in relation with the subatomic.

ObsiArmyBest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:24 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think they're saving that for Infinity War part 2.

dj_ian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i liked the movie, seemed a lot more kid friendly tbh than alot of more recent Marvel productions. I will say Ghost was horribly written tho. IMO the laziest writing anyone's done in the MCU to date. She existed seemingly to just throw an extra wrench in when it was convenient, and her inconsistent personality was made worse by how easily she was stopped everytime she made some headway.

jdragon3 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:08:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Strongly disagree on ghost.

greatness101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:39:48 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The guy trying to buy and then steal the lab was the laziest villain to me. He seemed to only exist to throw unnecessary drama in. At least Ghost tied into the story, though I believe if she had just asked, they would have gladly helped her.

ManateeofSteel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

IMO the laziest writing anyone's done in the MCU to date

the first Ant Man is probably one of the worst villains I've ever seen, only rivaled by Jurassic World 2's villain. I doubt Ghost could be even 5% as badly written as those.

dj_ian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:55:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost didn't exist as the film's main antagonist tho. It's the movie's problem overall, Randall Park and Walt Goggins seemed like bigger problems honestly, Ghost kind of became a minor inconvenience if anything. I also felt it was way to convenient that her little room (the cube thing) integrated with the quantum tunnel, or that it could get set up as fast as she did it, nor did they explain how it got back to the lab although one can assume it was of course shrunk.......the entire end of the film invalidated what little arc she had, which is sad because she was very well acted and the character design was spectacular. Unless Janet's quantum powers are super important, i don't understand why this storyline with Laurence Fishburne was forced in when Ghost could have just been a mercenary working for Goggins or something. I still want to stress I liked the movie, but as others have said there was a lot going on.

Bullstang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Aw man don't compare anything to Jurassic world 2 lol. Just saw that last nite one of the wordt experiences I've had in recent memory watching a movie in theaters

invadethecity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:50:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I had fun watching it. No really serious complaints that I can think of. But it has to be one of the more filler-y Marvel movies I've seen.

joshmoxey ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:52:38 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I see why you may think it's "filler-y" now, but I don't think this comment will age well. I feel like this movie was a foundation builder towards critical Avengers 4 events. Specifically, the quantum tech and Janet.

devilslaughters ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:28:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, Janet's gonna be a wizard, or some kind of cleric or...Baba Yaga!

JediJones77 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:17:00 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I loved the expanded roles for Lilly and Douglas, but the movie's weakness was the villains. The reveals about Ghost should've been saved until the end so they had more impact. We all can predict where her story is going to end up once we are told how sympathetic she is supposed to be, so she loses her status as being a threat to the heroes. Then they stick in all the mob goons to be the villains we're supposed to hate. But they're hardly organic to the story. You can take any superhero movie in the world and stick in some thugs who want to attack the hero for whatever reason. It would've been more organic if these goons were working for Ghost and then in the end Fishburne comes in to tell her story and convince her not to be the bad guy. Then she disables the thugs to save Janet.

Also the movies strains credibility at some points. Wouldn't that lab have been a complete wreck inside the way they were throwing the mini version around between vehicles? Also I don't think unshrinking the good guys' car underneath the bad guys' car would have the effect of toppling the bad guys' car. I think both would get wrecked.

Fn_Spaghetti_Monster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:03:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It would need to have some kind of self contained power supply as well. And assuming they have bathrooms self contained plumbing too. There are lot of 'magic' science in the movie. Does anybody really think you can train an ant to play the drums?

weebatwork ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:53:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, they didn't teach it to play the drums but just programmed the motions into it. It's basically an organic robot.

daITCHyouCANTscratch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wouldn't that lab have been a complete wreck inside the way they were throwing the mini version around between vehicles?

I thought the same thing. I feel like that wasn't explained in the movie.

mastelsa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:44 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Which is a shame because they could've made a great gag out of Scott trying to pull out a chair or move a desk and finding out it's literally nailed to the floor.

daITCHyouCANTscratch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:43:38 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm also thinking about the car expanding below the other car. Unless the car below had some sort of special metal to keep it from collapsing, it would have been severely damaged underneath the bad guy's car.

mastelsa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:39:40 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There are lots of things wrong with the physics in Ant Man.

gamesrgreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel the thug stuff is organic since part of the premise is that Hope and Doc Pym are fugitives. In the eyes of the government they are criminals...so makes sense they have to work with criminals to get the resources they need. They cant exactly buy stuff from legit distributors

Sanious ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:25:15 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty disappointing movie, itโ€™s been a long time since I didnโ€™t really enjoy a Marvel movie. And the trailer show a good portion of the action sequences.

I like the whole cast but a lot of stuff was not landing for me.

SinisterKid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:12:50 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I said the exact same thing to my buddy. This is this first Marvel film in a while that I haven't really loved. It was a fun watch but I have no interest in ever seeing it again.

HmathForDayz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:50:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Saw it last night, was fantastic as per usual.

In the middle of it, I swear there was a quote from Cassie where she said, "My dad doesn't feel so good." Anybody?

AzThaBoss ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:06:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, when Woo broke into his house when the ant was taking Scotts place and Cassie covered for him by saying he was really sick and puking a lot.

marsman57 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:53:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My dad doesn't feel so good

I missed this! LOL

BoxerBeBop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fantastic? Really?

n8toxic21 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:28:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wats ur point

SalukiKnightX ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:27:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Think Parker in Infinity War.

bliffer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So, maybe I'm just overthinking this one but can someone who's read more of the comics tell me if they ever explain the quantum Realm? Like, why can they breathe when they're smaller than molecules? Or is that just one of those hand wavy comic book things?

Dallywack3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's like the Speed Force. Basically, it's plot magic. Anything the plot needs can be found in the Quantum Realm. It makes no sense.

TroyandAbedAfterDark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The more that i think about it....I feel like this was kind of a "throwaway" movie. I didn't feel like any of the main characters were in any imminent danger, the stakes werent very high.

I honestly expected a lot more I guess, with a bigger tie in to IW.

wandabarr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:37:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I for one appreciate the smaller scale. Not every super hero has to fight the end of the world, especially not someone like Ant Man.

Dallywack3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Stakes don't have to be world-ending for them to feel important.

gwcory ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:27:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah it is the usual Marvel kind of movie. Pretty enjoyable and funny. No real glaring issues, just minor and nitpicking issues at most.

mikeweasy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:16:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just saw it it was good, funny and action packed. I just loved the banter between everyone. I do wish a lot of the cool things werent spoiled in the trailers, but what can you do about that?? Ghost was a good villain if you can call her that she had her own motivation and was just an antagonist. I liked the fight scenes and everything. The cast was great, lol Kim Jong Un. Goggins had a smaller role as did Fishburne. I wish Janet was in it more cuz I love Michelle glad to see she is getting more work. Heres a weird thought what if they had cast a younger actress as Janet and explain that she didnt age while in the Quantum Realm?? That would have been interesting. OMG tho that mid credits scene!!! I cant believe it. On a last note Evangeline Lilly is so hot in that Wasp outift!!!

yojoono ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:38:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol, I bet people are thinking you're being racist for stating one of his previous roles that he's well known for. (Randall Park was Kim Jong Un in the Interview for people who are confused)

mikeweasy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:43:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah every time I see him I just think of Kim now LOL.

yojoono ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:01:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He'll always be "Asian Jim" from the Office to me :P

mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah that too.

JeffDenlon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:16:28 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think they actually made Michelle Pfieffer look older than she actually was so she could look closer in age to Michael Douglas.

mikeweasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thats interesting.

IndyRevolution ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So the feds didn't notice the exact building they found in the woods had appeared in an abandoned lot in the middle of San Fran?

zombiereign ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:11:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Abandoned lot in SF? Bwahahahaha. No such animal

billythefridge ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:40:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You think they keep tabs on all the abandoned lots?

IndyRevolution ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, but there are multiple cameras keeping watch on every part of the city at any moment and an entire building suddenly appearing in the skyline would be noticed very quickly.

billythefridge ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:52:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ok, you're right. Movie is terrible. Throw it away.

IndyRevolution ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:33:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I liked the movie dude, I was just laughing in my head while I was watching.

billythefridge ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:44:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Glad you enjoyed it!

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You really think that Widow just has Scottโ€™s legal trouble memorized? Or that itโ€™s even public knowledge? Lol. He literally got off house arrest like a day or two before Infinity War. There's no way for Widow to know that

JeffDenlon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:47 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They probably didn't know. I'm guessing that Scott wasn't really keeping in touch with the Avengers at that point.

StanGibson18 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He lives on the west coast and hangs out with fugitives. I don't see how he could have gotten to NYC or Wakanda in time.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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StanGibson18 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:00:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Did you see on the news there was another alien attack today?"

"Yeah, now get back to work Scott."

Now you have your acknowledgment and have successfully drained all the surprise from the end of the scene.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hi Ken!!!

CrazsomeLizard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:33 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hi Thanos

Bluestagg360 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

All normal earthlings knew was that a spaceship came and went and some aliens battled it out with the Avengers in New York for a bit, them some went to Wakanda.

I'm sure they would have talked about it, but Ant-Man isn't an official Avenger yet and there wasn't much they could do.

LazyDragonBall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:26:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can anybody describe the after credits scenes? I donโ€™t have the time or money to go see the movie but I care about the story of Thanos and stuff like that.

DinosaurGonads ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:28:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ant-Man is stuck in the Quantum Realm because Janet, Hope and Hank got โ€œSnapped.โ€ Janet also mentioned something along the line of โ€œDont go into a time vortex while in the Quantum Realm.โ€ So that might come into play during 4vengers

LazyDragonBall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:29:45 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ooooooohhhh

zzuxon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:55 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

/u/DinosaurGonads did a good job of explaining the first after credits scene, now I'll tell you the second one. Though fair warning, I may not do it justice, it's quite brilliant in my opinion and describing it may detract from it.

So context: Scott is under house arrest, so when Hope and Hank had to take him with them they chemically programmed a giant ant to imitate his daily routine while wearing his ankle bracelet so that the feds wouldn't get suspicious.

The second scene opens in Scott's house, with a TV displaying the emergency broadcast image and playing a constant tone. You can faintly hear sirens and other sounds of chaos from outside the house. As the camera pans through the apartment you hear a beat alongside the TV's tone. The camera pans into a hallway, showing the giant ant playing on a drumset. It finishes it's recital with a little flourish and the screen goes black.

The emergency broadcast tone continues playing for 2-3 more seconds.

Sharpes_Sword ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:13:05 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Another great Marvel film! This was a really exciting and fun movie that had a lot of good humor and action scenes. I might be especially biased because I was originally from the Bay Area though, so all the SF stuff was especially fun to see.

marklovesbb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:16:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Bizarre opening for a movie. It was just a bit too matter of fact. Enjoyable but weird.

Solid movie overall. Was funny and the action sequences were good. I guess thatโ€™s what we want from an Ant Man film. Itโ€™s not changing cinema but I didnโ€™t look at my phone waiting for it to be over.

The ending was cool, but a tad predictable. Can we assume that Fishburne will be involved in bringing him back?

Dallywack3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that prologue laid the thesis of the movie on incredibly thick.

BeetsBy_Schrute ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was I the only one who was not surprised by the mid credit scene with them disappearing? I was expecting it and felt like I wouldโ€™ve been more surprised if they didnโ€™t disappear.

Same with Hawkeye. I feel the only way to get Hawkeye on the team again is for the opening scene of A4 is for him to lose his entire family. He then takes up the mantle of Ronin to avenge his family.

Dallywack3r ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:29:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I am shocked there are people who didn't see it coming.

CmderVimes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:01:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was actually bored the first 15 to 30 mins of the movie. It wasn't tell Ghost caught all three of them that I got invested. Otherwise it just felt like they were doing things. Kinda weak buildup to the actual main plot.

jelatinman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:41:26 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can we change the preview image thanks I don't wanna look at wasps

Ruraraid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:14:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Watching it the entire movie kind of has one glaring plot hole.

Whowutwhen ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:29:25 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That isnt a plot hole, the heroes say as much, but Ghost is kind of off her rocker and doesn't listen or care.

HardKhorToon ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:07:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She blames Hank for her parents' death and the last time she trusted someone to fix her, they turned out to be Nazis.

StrangeSemiticLatin2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I know he found her in Argentina, but was it ever claimed if it had been the Nazis who were experimenting on her? I cannot understand how she went from whenever she was from when the explosion happened to Argentina.

TheRedditEric ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, SHIELD recruited her, but SHIELD was HYDRA, who are pretty close to Nazis

HardKhorToon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:03:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Laurence Fishburne's character brought her into SHIELD. She wasn't experimented upon. She was used as an agent the way Black Widow was used. The Nazis (Hydra) were the reason why SHIELD didn't fix her because it went down.

kinglear009 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:04 on August 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think you nailed it - Goggins was a blast and Ghost was a missed opportunity. Great stuff!

jpranevich ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:52:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This film felt like the middle film of a trilogy... that doesn't quite know where it's going for its third installment. We set up a recurring villain (?) and it looks pretty cool, but afterwards it just feels empty. It's fun, but empty.

I just realized: this is Marvel's "Matrix II". Heck, even the white villains have the same powers...

Einhander_mk2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Very fun with not much else. I enjoyed Ghost to the extent of she was a little less cookie cutter. Only just.

A little underwhelming Iโ€™d say and not as good as #1 for me, butttt still fun

frostylicking ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:04:37 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I haven't seen it yet but was this movie funny? Like actually funny or just quips and cheesy?

Vrylox ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:10:22 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. This is a funny movie

MasterofSciFi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:18:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you liked the first one you would love it.

wizards_upon_dragons ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Most of the comedy didn't land. There's a recurring bit about truth serum that was cringe.

truebeliever157 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:11:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly I thought the truth serum thing was one of the few jokes that actually worked for me

AtraWolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:11 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Were people really surprised by the end credit scene? Like I saw that coming from a mile away.

Gremliner00 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:38:18 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I expected it to happen that way and really liked it. It sets up Ant-Man's situation for Avengers 4 nicely.

Armada88 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:11:03 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

(#spoiler) Yeah what was funny when I went to see the movie there were a few kids sitting a couple of seats across from and when that end credit scene happened, one of them said, "NOOOOO!!!, I HATE THANOS!!!!" I lost my shit when that kid reacted, lol.

rinzler83 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:40:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The movie was a typical marvel movie. It entertained. I don't know why people are so sad with the post credit scene of people disappearing due to Thanos. Any of those deaths are meaningless. Obviously in the next movie with Thanos,they'll somehow get the gauntlet and snap them back. People dying doesn't mean anything in these movies.

kingbankai ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:21:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Unless yo ass is Uncle Ben...

RedHairLady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:36 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yo chill Satan, chill...

kingbankai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:00 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

(Chill'd)

altcastle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:30:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the earlier deaths in Infinity War mattered. Possibly. Comic books would never bring people back to life!

Kawauso98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's obvious that the next movie is going to address "the snap" in some manner, and it's easy to presume that will bring about some kind of corrective resolution, but it's a pretty big assumption to claim to know what form that resolution will take.

It seems a fairly safe assumption that deaths from IW will be revered in some fashion, yes - that doesn't mean all of them will. You can't say that character deaths "don't mean anything" when we really have no idea what may or may not be reversed at this point.

outrider567 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Critics sure love it, 88% RT Approval rating

pax1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

While on the way to the movie, I squished like 3 ants in my car. I've had a shit ton of construction outside of my apartment for the past week or so, so the ant problem has gotten really bad in my apartment and car.

InTheOvenYouGo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Gotta hand it to the people who made the trailers who made Bill Foster seem like he was in the movie for comedic affect (or effect, idk). Didnโ€™t expect him to be what I thought he was gonna be.

StrayDogThaGAWD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Literally just saw it. Wow, just wow!

IcedThatGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m still processing the movie, but I think I really loved it. There is a real accessibility to the characters here that I donโ€™t think other hero films have tapped into. It could be the smaller stakes of the film, but these characters have a lot more relatability to them. I think it all comes down to how they consider the situations and their consequences throughout the story. Little things, like Scott always fearing his probation, because he needs to prove himself to his daughter, and how the story redeems the main villain in a considerate and non-violent way.

Compare this to Black Panther and how aggressive Tโ€™challa is with Killgrave, a blood relative with a tragic life story he fully admits to empathizing with. Itโ€™s like our hero forgets the lesson he learned at the end of Civil War, that villains are also people who can be understood and reasoned with. AntMan and The Wasp donโ€™t make that mistake, and the movie is so much better for it.

Also, I need more lazy. house-lounging ANTics in my life.

ydail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scott possessed by Janet and Kiddie Scott are the most hilarious scene for me. Surely they will be the scene that i will remember for a long time.

This movie gives me a good feeling until the end though the first after credit scene i don't feel so good anymore.

jrazz80 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't mind me, I'm just here for the Snap...

BRAND_NEW_GUY25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost was great, I'm excited to see what they do with her character from here on, But I wonder what she's been doing since Captain America 2 when Shield fell.

socraticmethod88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hank Pym loves calling out Hope and Scott when their romantic arc is slowing down the plot

Asinero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That scene where Hank faked heart attack and Bill getting Hank's almond case because Hope was pleading was wholesome.

MaverickTimeLord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In short โ€” it was smashing. A very fun film. I thought the recap at the beginning was a little heavy with the narration, but I loved the intro Michelle Pfeiffer was given to show the relationship with her daughter.

Otherwise, a lot of fun to be had, very appealing to the eye. Lots of feel good and preparation for the post credits scenes. Both of which were not only unsettling, but also so fitting.

Mastuh_KBM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm getting a feeling that Cassie will be assuming the role of Wasp in the next Avengers movie.

random_name225 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought at least one in the Pym family would have left, but the odds in their family is way too bad.

scarfacesaints ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why did Janet start to disappear when Ghost was using the Quantum energy? Wasn't she just human and stuck in there. Shouldn't have Hank started to fade too...or the entire ship? I know she has powers now, just not sure how one affected the other.

LefthandedLunatic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We always joked how funny it would be if randomly in the movie half of the people go away due to thanos. I didn't expect them to follow through

UnknownJ25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So Scott is gonna end up traveling to the future or something right?

SirWolfScar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

or the past. could go far enough back to stop thanos from attacking Thor, though I'm 100% just guessing at this.

L1vingTribunal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That ant is going to be doing Scott's daily routine for a looong time

NotAPimecone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just saw it, really enjoyed it.

Was wondering how they were going to integrate with half of everyone in the universe being gone, then forgot about it because the movie was so genuinely entertaining and then... Boom. That post-credits scene.

jlquon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was arguably the best mid credits scene so far

ashishvp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

30 years spent in quantum limbo only to be turned to dust right after getting out

God I feel terrible for Janet :(

RectorRaze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow really want Jim to be Mr Fantastic, I guess Woo is fine.

baitXtheXnoose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No one seems to be talking about the mobster dudes. Who are they? Are they important for the future or were they just there as plot drivers? I didnโ€™t have an issue with them per se, they were just kinda... there.

mistarteechur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:49:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I took them as being indicative of how active of a black market for exotic tech is now that so much of it is openly in the world. Why deal in machine guns when you can deal in quantum doodads and such?

louisbancroft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I guess you could say that the Pyms.......ghosted.

vidythekid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Holy crap! Hank Pym pulled a Pierce Hawthorne!

Dont_Call_Me_John ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did anyone else find some of the momentary editing jarringly bad? There were a few cuts that pulled me right out of the scene.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Dont_Call_Me_John ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One in particular, when Ghost kicks the FBI agent trying to steal the lab, and then it cuts to Hank and Hope in the patrol car while an agent's walkie-talkie says "officer down".

It was just very sudden and the patrol car shot was too tight to establish any sense of location. After a beat I figured it out because we see Hope getting in the patrol car earlier, but it just felt very sloppy.

There were a couple of others that stood out as I was watching that I'll try to remember.

socraticmethod88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Luis complaining about Scottโ€™s dishwasher protocol was a great use of the truth serum to create comedy in their relationship

astrakhan42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not sure if I missed it and they gave Ava a last name, but I wonder if she's supposed to be the MCU version of Ava Ayala, one of the White Tigers.

Awsaim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I accidentally left after the first end-credit scene, what happened after?

AnimaLepton ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:13:16 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was a couple shots of Scott's apartment, followed by his ant substitute hitting the drums (scene from the trailer)

rohay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:26:07 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel the important part of that scene is the TV the emergency broadcast I couldn't read what it says hopefully some of the screen grabs it

TaddWinter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Into Scott's place and you hear the emergency broadcast signal. Move up and find the big ant playing the drums, the Ant-Man and The Wasp Will Return comes up on screen, then ? appears at the end.

Awsaim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh ok. Thanks!

HardcoreKaraoke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I expected a "snap" post credits scene but man that hit hard. Does this mean Ant-Man isn't in Infinity War? I know there are the set photos but that could be a swerve (Marvel did this before).

I mean literally no one knows he's in there.

rohay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:25:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They talk time travel before he goes in

jlquon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Heโ€™s escaped before he will figure it out

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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xTheApex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:53:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

3D. The spy who dumped me The darkest minds Wreck it Ralph 2 The nutcracker and the 4 realms

Honestly was pretty underwhelmed by the trailers except for WR2

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:03 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

NP

neuromorph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

is it worth seeing in 3D?

TheHoundThatRides ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:59:55 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I saw it in IMAX 3D. I guess there might have been a few noticeable effects but no 3D sequences really stood out to me and made a lasting impression where I thought it was worth it.

boomboxpinata ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:08:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

only for the quantum realm scene. when hank first enters itโ€™s pretty crazy looking

dewsh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't notice the 3D much. Most dealt with people standing infront or behind glass.

annihilate123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:57 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, mainly for the Quantum Realm sequences and any action scene with the shrunk heroes.

neuromorph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

you seem to be the only yes. Are these scenes utilizing the full 3D, are they enhanced with it?

annihilate123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Indeed. The film is mainly medium, but some scenes really utilize the format. It's worth the admission.

As someone said, there's one shot that was so trippy, and was enhanced in 3D.

Ivanopolis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We must be outliers, but my wife and I literally commented to one another that the 3D was really good. I'd recommend it.

neuromorph ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

thanks

TheHoundThatRides ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Were you sitting near the middle or to the side?

Ivanopolis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The middle. Maybe one row back from the exact middle.

Bloody6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Does anyone remember what did Burch say about S.H.I.E.L.D. in the movie? What was the line of dialogue again?

words_words_words_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:00:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What part of the movie would that have been? I don't remember Burch ever mentioning SHIELD

Bitey_the_Squirrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shield trained Ghost to be an assassin

Bloody6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When we see Burch for the first time in the restaurant, he was trying to convince Hope to sell the lab, i don't remember the exact line but he mentioned SHIELD is gone or something.

ShortFuse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Funfact, Ghost's father is Elihas Starr aka Egghead.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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the_vince_horror ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:05:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Special Thanks" is usually dedicated to people that the producers or crew wish to thank. In this case, they wanted to thank Jorge Lucas.

itaboranius ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:42:07 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You know there are other Jorges and Georges aside from The George Lucas, right?

prozac_milkshake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Really enjoyed this movie Iโ€™ll defiantly bring my family next time I see it, my only problem with the movie was Ghosts resolve, it seemed like they took the easy way out by delaying her death with magic fingers from a character that shows up 5 minutes before hand.

TheLateThagSimmons ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:26:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I agree. The magic hands solution was very weak and kind of out of no where. They set up that she might be more than human only a few minutes prior, but it completely erased the story arc of Goliath trying to convince Ghost to let her live because she's this scientific genius that can come up with a solution.

It was just... odd.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:23:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wish she actually fixed Ghost from her being an expert of quantum physics and all that, like they said she was. Not from her getting wonky cheesy finger healing-magic she got out of nowhere.

JeffDenlon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:18:09 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think she completely healed her. It was a temporarily fix. That is why Scott went back into the quantum realm in the mid credits scene, they were getting quantum energy so they could help Bill cure Ghost.

Mc1I7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:53 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cool wanted to make sure I wasnโ€™t the only one that heard it and had the same idea.

mccoyeherold2111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:21:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My mom thinks so as well

chunkybuttflake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes

AndrewTDR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:17 on December 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fun and lighthearted movie. Also the black Matrix guy was in it. Pretty cool.

TheDeadlySinner ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:06:56 on December 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

black matrix guy

AndrewTDR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:29 on December 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also known as the guy from the "What if I told you" meme.

blackgaylibertarian ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 12:59:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For the people that hated this movie because it was entertaining and funny and enjoyable, don't worry, the Snyder cut of Justice League is supposed to come out soon.

KalBaratheon ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 14:12:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or maybe people just don't think it was that entertaining, funny, or enjoyable? Seriously, it's like some you guys can't fathom people not drinking the MCU kool-aid.

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:05:30 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

SW and MCU fanboys are becoming one and the same.

AH784850 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:08:53 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously when did this sub become r/Marvel & r/antiDC.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:15:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Since BvS pretty much.

GarMek ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:28:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

not really, at least we didn't do dead threat because an actress/actor played a character that ruined the franchise.

thesecoloursdontrun ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:28:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But do they really have that?

aeillill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:29 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I enjoyed this, but not as much as the others in my theater. They went nuts for so many of the jokes and I just kind was like OK.

They lost their minds at the first end credit scene

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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TheGuyWithFocus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:13:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

YOUโ€™VE CRACKED THE CASE!

yomandenver ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:00:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Whoosh

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A bit of a let-down. The villains were underwhelming. sonny burch was a generic mobster with generic and bland motivations. Ghost had potential, but throughout the movie it didn't feel like she was a real threat. The fact that both the Wasp and Ghost were saved destroyed any remaining tension. Sometimes the jokes went on for too long. Scott lang was downgraded from protagonist to comedic relief sidekick. He didn't change as a person at all.

Most jokes were good. Seeing Hope as the Wasp was the best parts.

The whole movie felt like a feel-good family flick.

Edit: This is a movie you watch on netflix. If you wanna see it, see it. But if you have doubts and are looking to be convinced to go to the theatre, take that as a sign you shouldn't buy a ticket.

raptor102888 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:53:22 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost definitely had a threatening presence.

DragonzordRanger ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:03:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She was definitely cool in that edgy kind of way but I personally felt like the movie didnโ€™t allow her to be threatening. When her hand was in dudeโ€™s neck there was some suspense but after that the only person she was putting in any real danger was a character we had never met before.

Swisskisses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s because the stakes werenโ€™t END OF THE WORLD that ppl think she was meh.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:51:33 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sure there's a transformer coming up soon that'll be more up your alley.

And I can not stop laughing at your last sentence.

su_blood ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:21:43 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not sure why your attacking him for his opinion, honestly I felt the same and so did my brother. Thought the movie was overall fun and enjoyable but I would definitely say the plot felt extremely weak and would not rate this as a good movie by any means.

[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 19:22:36 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh well if you and your brother thought it wasn't good then what other conversation is there to have? You're obviously both well-respected trained critics whose opinions should be treasured and valued.

su_blood ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:23:51 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

so why does your opinion matter more than mine? And why must you be so aggressive against people who have differing opinions on a dam movie LMAO

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:26:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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su_blood ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:29:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you think text on a computer screen is aggressive

So based on your sentence I quoted above, you believe that there is no way to be aggressive via text? At first I thought you were just an angry man but now I can see your intelligence is quite low as well. Enjoy the rest of your day

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I totally hope you enjoy yours too.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:12:34 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The people who actually enjoyed this movie would feel at home with the transformers series.

ilikehockeyandguitar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:10 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Transformers and the MCU are two different series and entities.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:02 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That must be why you have so many downvotes.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:22:42 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, karma. Many people change their perceptions in order to avoid disapproval and gain the support of strangers over the internet. This movie isn't the worst in the world, not even close. But for a marvel movie its among the mediocre. If you feel im attacking you for liking it, im sorry. But im gonna call a duck a duck.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh trust me, I TOTALLY respect your opinion.

Jbirdbeats ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:48:52 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't kid yourself buddy, marvel movies are on the same level as transformer movies. There's nothing thought provoking or artistic about them. They are popcorn flicks so put down the bowl of your own farts and get over yourself

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:50:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah I'll totally get over myself. I'm gonna actually close my laptop and get right on that.

Thank you so much for the wonderful intelligent suggestion!

Jbirdbeats ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 19:56:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I take it you don't have too many friends do ya buddy? Are you OK? Do you need to talk to someone? Cuz I'm pretty sure there's a subreddit where you can talk about your feelings. It's unhealthy to bottle it up. Next thing ya know you'll be picking fights with random people on the internet and acting better than everyone..... Oh wait

PublicEnemaNumberTwo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:17 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
billypilgrim_in_time ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Similar to what youโ€™re doing right now?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:47 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow! You're a really good psychologist! Where did you graduate from?

bryguy894 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:23:40 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Whereโ€™s that Spider-Man pointing at Spider-Man meme

Shanicpower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I kinda feel like the movie had a problem with juggling too many characters at once. The Sonny Burch plotline shouldโ€™ve been removed to make room for more Ghost and Bill Foster screentime.

Nollasta_poikkeava ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:54:22 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I dunno. I liked how whenever the crew handled one problem, another immediately resurfaced.

Bomber131313 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:20:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Sonny Burch plotline shouldโ€™ve been removed

He was only there to have henchman for Ant Man and Wasp to fight.

sooperkool ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:51:38 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That really should have been Justin Hammer

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought so too. The character seemed to exist only to include the tired, 80's movie era gangster villain with his gang of goons for the hero to punch out. And for the classic car chase scene.

Shanicpower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly, and it's not like he will have any lasting impact. Ghost and Foster are clearly here to stay for a while, develop them a bit more.

Bomber131313 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:22 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost and Foster are clearly here to stay for a while, develop them a bit more.

Yes, but they need Sonny for the action scenes. There was only so much Ant Man and Wasp could do against Ghost. They need henchman for the kitchen fight and the car chase at the end.

AlconTheFalcon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:59:52 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought that the dual villains balanced the movie. Burch was kind of a lighter tone, while Ghost was heavier. Don't think either of them could have carried the movie alone as a villain.

Shanicpower ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:41:07 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think they really carried it in the final product either.

altcastle ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:26:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I did not enjoy the guy sitting a few seats over who shouted HA HUH HUH HA HA HUHHHHHHH at anything approaching a joke. It was so loud that the rest of my theater stopped laughing at anything and sat stone silent throughout the film.

Yay, popular movies!

alrighthamilton ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:00:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Similar experience on opening night - the guy next to me would say "Ouch!" out loud everytime someone got hit hard. He would also repeat back punchlines to his friend as if he was the one who came up with them. Asked them to not keep talking throughout the movie and was told that I'm the one who is talking now and why did I have a problem with them "just enjoying the movie".

I try to be a better, less angry person but some people are just shit.

Stinky_Eastwood ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:07:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If people laughing at jokes in a funny movie are too much for you, maybe re-calibrate your expectations when leaving your house/apartment or just stick to watching movies on home video.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:58 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Stinky_Eastwood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:52 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you go to a comedy and get annoyed that people are laughing, you are the outlier.

altcastle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You got me.

LuckyCapt-RabbitKing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:48 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Chris_Shiherlis ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 16:44:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was just going to post about this. I had a lady laughing next to me, and it makes me wonder that maybe she just never sees movies and was in awe and so impressed with the whole thing?

I mean this lady laughed at everything. She laughed when Paul Rudd turned around. It was super off putting.

Is it that they don't see a lot of movies and really get a kick out of them?

Are they simpletons and just super giggly?

I was disappointed in the movie. I didn't think MD was good in it. Didn't understand why Michelle Pfeiffer was in it either. Paul Rudd was decent, as he usually is, Pena stole the movie and Evangeline Lily was...."meh". I just am not feeling this movie.

I'd give it a 2.5/5.

[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 19:01:51 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Time to grow up and start going to Alamo theaters like the other adults.

Tvayumat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I live in San Antonio and won't go to Alamo theaters anymore because talking is a huge problem there.

And their no talking policy? Big load of shit if you try and actually get them to enforce it.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:20 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow you'd think they'd be even more strict at their original locations. That's super unfortunate.

They totally love giving the people the boot at the SF location. I've gotten people kicked out of there for coughing more than once.

altcastle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Heh, I was at a Flix which is similar. Sadly, I just moved away from Austin and there is no AD here. I really miss all the free preview screenings. Since I averaged over one movie a week to get top brass for many years, it is nice to see someone condescend like they're awesome for knowing the Drafthouse exists.

[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 19:12:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha you don't live next to an Alamo anymore.

Btw 25+ weeks to get Top Brass? How adorable.

altcastle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:15:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You got me. You got the bigger dick. It is massive. I did not say how long it took to get top brass nor do I care. You just have to see a rolling total of 50 movies a year.

altcastle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:45 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, that is what I just said. You did it, you successfully read a comment.

[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:14:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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altcastle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:00 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There is also a Flix Brewhouse in Round Rock just north of Austin. It's a good theater chain. I recommend checking it out. Better food than the Drafthouse, and they brew interesting beers.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah that sounds so amazing. Definitely gotta go to a Flix sometime to check it out.

jffdougan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:22 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not the person to whom you responded, but:

a. Alamo doesn't have any locations within any kind of reasonable drive of me.

b. I don't drink, so the appeal of being able to get beer with my movie is lost.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:08:28 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That is weird. You are weird.

makeittriple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Death, taxes, car chase scene in a Marvel movie.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Better than "Incredibles 2"?

ktchong ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:31:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly, they are about the same qualify.

gregishere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:47:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I saw this and Incredibles back to back at a drive -in theater last night. I preferred AntMan. Incredibles 2 was good, but a little too similar to the first plot-wise while not being as good.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Does this film have good special effects?

deadhorses ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:18:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it looked great (with the exception of some scenes in the trailer where Scott goes big), especially one particular scene where they flashback and de-age a character. Looked much better than similar attempts in Rogue One, Tron Legacy, etc.

creator111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

did they deage Michael Douglass again? It looked great in the first one

deadhorses ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:37:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was most impressed with Laurence Fishburne, but Michael Douglas and Michelle Pfeiffer are also de-aged.

Gerard54321 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:25:58 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i wish more people saw his drug thriller 'deep cover'

envynav ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:40:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Young Michael Douglasโ€™ face was covered in shadow for most of his scene so you donโ€™t get a very good look at him, but the effects for young Michelle Pfeiffer looked fairly convincing.

MoneyMike312 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

IMDb reports that was actually โ€œLangston Fishburneโ€, his real life son

beefytrout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's gotta be a mistake.

wendee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:07:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's in the credits as well.

beefytrout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:31:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Looks like all 3 "de-aged" characters have "stand-ins" even though those are clearly using the main actors faces.

deadhorses ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well that makes a lot more sense, totally didn't even check that!

Kamwind ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I am not one to complain about special effects but there were a few quick scenes that did look like they were using miniature models.

However there is a major fight that takes place in a kitchen that that is great with lots of special effects.

Pizza4Free ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:17 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Marvel is on fire! This is a good movie! I personally didn't like the ghost person.

itaboranius ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:37:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The post credit scene wasn't suppossed to be funny, so it didn't matter if it was featured on the trailer or not because the main point wasn't. The important thing about this post credit scene was to show the eerie moments after the snap, the emergency channel, screams in the background, just solitude.

And a programmed ant that will continue to make Scott's actions until who knows when.

Edit: also why post a link thay redirects me to the front page???

Pizza4Free ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:52:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What link? I guess I didn't get what that scene was about, my bad.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:50 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What was the post scene?

SkidzLIVE ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:40:04 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Camera pans around scott's house, no one is there, emergency broadcast is on the TV. Then they show that giant ant still playing the drum kit. Thats it. It was meh, tbh.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ghost was alright. They made her another sympathetic villain, which is getting a little old. But the actress really sold the desperation well. Plus she was hot.

Santi801 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:06 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Funniest Marvel movie

crystal_clear24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I LOVED this movie! The humor and the fight scenes were fantastic. Michael Pena and co. (Sorry, I donโ€™t remember their companyโ€™s name) all have great comedic timing, the truth serum scene was awesome! The first post credit sceneโ€”DAMN! I knew it was coming but the movie was so entertaining that I didnโ€™t think about IW until that scene. Crazy! Bring on the next marvel film!

harten66 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:35:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

EX-cons!

crystal_clear24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you!!

wtfmynamegotdeleted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So if they find antman then they can bring everyone back right? I mean he has those quantum healing shot now right?

TheGuyWithFocus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t think quantum healing can bring someone back from non-existence.

I think Captain Marvel will play the role that Adam Warlock played in the comics and will take the gauntlet and undo everything.

stevebuscemiofficial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Michael Peรฑa is amazing!! Can someone explain what will happen to AVA?

Dobokdude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I theorize that...

-A) She died in the Snappening by Thanos

-B) She survives, and acts an antihero/ally to the remaining Avengers.

Combus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How the hell did Hank and Pfeifer have time to go to Hawaii and then back to SF when the Snappening was supposedly occurring at the same time?

ForeverTect ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:53:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I assumed some time had passed as they shrunk down the quantum bridge, the end of the movie didnโ€™t strike me as being immediately after the SF stuff at Fishermanโ€™s Wharf

ocasas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:25:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But in IW the reason given for Ant-man not being there is because he is on "house arrest"

ForeverTect ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:29:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Someone else pointed it out but that was his last known location as him and Hawkeye took deals because theyโ€™ve got families. The Avengers didnโ€™t have an exact pinpoint whereabouts of him other than knowing he took a deal.

thehermitgood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:05:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

GO BEARS

domrayn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:31:03 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think this is a point that was mentioned in ant man 1 but i forgot already. Why is hank pym not using the ant-man suit? Is it because michael douglas thinks he's too old to wear tights?

Bomber131313 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 10:32:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He said in Ant Man 1 he used the suit to much and it started messing with his mind.

ferd_draws ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What was the book scott was reading at the beginning?

taylorswiftfan123 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:49:14 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Fault in Our Stars

ferd_draws ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:25 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks!

whiskeybill ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly I don't know how Marvel keeps getting a pass on all the bad CGI. The car chase in the end looked like someone copy and pasted Daytona USA for the Sega Saturn into the film.

stormageddon007 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:09 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie sucked. I'm sorry it just did. There were a few good moments, but overall it was a major disappointment. The entire movie was essentially unnecessary.

Decilllion ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:31:43 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was a light, fun adventure. It was always going to be a... small movie. How could expectations have been high enough for this project to be a disappointment?

stormageddon007 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:02:32 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A bad movie is a bad movie. Has nothing to do with the size or budget of a film. It was a disappointment because it was bad where the first one was good. This movie just seemed really rushed.

Decilllion ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:49:41 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Acting was good, plot was straight forward, there was some great action and the movie was funny. Rudd gave it heart, just like the first one.

Not an all time classic for sure, but how is this movie bad?

warsage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:54:40 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

plot was straight forward

I liked the movie, but I'm a bit surprised to see this in the comments. This is one of the most convoluted plots in the MCU imo. The story followed five to six separate groups with separate interests, three of whom could be considered antagonists, all colliding unpredictably and influencing each others' stories.

  • Ant-Man
  • The Wasp and Pym
  • Ghost and Foster
  • Luis's group
  • Black market guy
  • FBI

One of the later sequences was especially wild in this respect. Rudd tells Luis where the building is, Black Market guy interrogates him to find out, Ghost was hiding there too, Ant-Man leaves his group, the FBI gets the building, Wasp and Dad get arrested, a traitor steals the building for the black market guy, Ghost steals it from him, the FBI checks out Rudd at his house...

Obviously it wasn't a crazily twisted plot, but I wouldn't call it straightforward either. To me a straightforward superhero plot is like the first Ant-Man. Bad guy do bad thing, good guy beat bad guy. This movie wasn't that.

Decilllion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:49 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It does have a lot of elements, but keeps it basically simple enough for a general audience.

Save the Mom, don't get caught being Ant-Man. There's a villain we can't punch and a group a villains we can punch.

jaydock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:46 on July 22, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It felt more like a video game plot (like mass effect or the knights of the old republic series) than a straightforward action flick, which I liked. It was more about people with varying interests and motivations and less about the end of the world. I donโ€™t think it was very hard to follow if you gave it more than a second thought. I prefer that to the simpler plots, honestly.

stormageddon007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:52 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Acting was mediocre. Paul Rudd was the only real saving grace of this movie, and I agree it had some funny parts. But as the movie goes the writing was just so boring and formulaic, the editing was crazy, the effects were really sloppy (which does have an impact on the movie overall). It was just bad. It wasnโ€™t the worst movie Iโ€™ve ever seen, but Iโ€™ll likely never watch this movie again.

seeingeyegod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:44 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

your opinion is just your opinion, has nothing to do with whether its a good movie or not.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:44 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

unnecessary in what sense?

stormageddon007 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:03:45 on July 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the sense where by the 50th minute of the movie youโ€™re like โ€œalright we get itโ€ and the movie has a mother hour to go.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:52:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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dannypdanger ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:57:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In fairness, they explain this in an offhand line in Infinity War. When Cap and everyone meet up with Banner, someone asks where Clint and Scott are. Black Widow responds by saying something about going on the lam (like Cap, Falcon, and Black Widow did) being too tough on their families, so they took a deal that put them on house arrest (which also explains why Hawkeye isn't there in IW).

Dobokdude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Actually I did not see that coming. I yelled ''holy shit'' out loud in the theatre when I saw over 2 hours ago. Biggest twist since ''I am your father'' IMO.

FatalFirecrotch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:59:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I also like how they explained Ant Man not being in the Avengers because he was on house arrest.

I don't think that explains it. He was off house arrest by the time anything in the Avengers is happening. Avengers happens like over a couple day period.

Javv_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:17:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, Team Cap (yeah, thats what I call him) are fugitives and Ant Man is paying his sentence by house arrest, I can see the team leaving him alone since he is "doing the right thing", also hes not an Avenger per-se so why get him involved?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:18:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nope. Even Black Widow says he's on house arrest in Infinity War.

FatalFirecrotch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Then the time lines make no sense. Maybe they meant probation, but for him to be on house arrest his date night would have to be the first night he was free and Michael Douglas and his wife would have had to travel to some island to set up their house at a beach and immediately flown back.

SomeRandomProducer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:40:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I do think the date night and beach house happened right after but Iโ€™m curious how longer after that did IW happen. Regardless, as far as BW knows he was on house arrest. Iโ€™m sure she didnโ€™t know the date that was gonna end.

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't they mention he was on house arrest during the IW? Although you're right, why would they go back into the Quantum Dimension the next day?

johndoe42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Only thing I can see is if Janet mentioned how she was able to have healing powers and they're like "oh shit, we have to go back now." Though Hope sure did take some time out of her busy day to get her hair styled (honestly, they probably did that on purpose to show us time had passed.

EDIT: Oof. Just saw someone said that maybe they need to keep taking this energy to keep Ghost alive.

SomeRandomProducer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

EDIT: Oof. Just saw someone said that maybe they need to keep taking this energy to keep Ghost alive.

Yeah they mentioned they were going back in to get the energy for their new ghost friend.

FatalFirecrotch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe? But they showed Michael Douglas and his wife on the beach with their house at what looks like some island, Paul Rudd and Hope have a drive in date night. We are supposed to believe that all took place in the first night that he was off house arrest and she was back from the quantum dimension?

Edit: Maybe they meant probation. He was on 3 years probation after house arrest.

Someguy2020 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He was still on probation and hank/hope were still fugitives.

FatalFirecrotch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I stated elsewhere as he would be on probation. But others have stated that in Avengers they said house arrest.

I still think that is a shitty excuse. Hey, we have half of humanity on the verge of being wiped out. Can't let you violate probation.

SomeRandomProducer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well wasnโ€™t it at first just an attack on NY and they didnโ€™t really know the stakes yet? After a while maybe they just kind of forgot about Ant-Man and wanted to focus on the threat.

Dallywack3r ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:20:48 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was waiting for the Infinity War thing the whole movie, secretly hoping Peanut was gonna get snapped. The way it happened was so predictable that I can't help but be disappointed.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:17:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I told my friend that too! I told him it would be cool if the end credit scene showed some of those characters disappear from Thanos' snap.

whereismymind86 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Obviously not as good as Black Panther or Infinity War, but I still enjoyed it a great deal. I think moving the post credits thing up about 15 minutes would have been the better move, and perhaps leave Janet rather than removing all three, but otherwise, no real complaints.

Like Ant Man before it, its a much lower stakes, dumb, fun, action movie, and thats fine once in a while, smaller movies like Spider-man and Ant-Man help make the big movies seem bigger, helps create a sense of perspective.

TitillatingTrav ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:07:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I enjoyed this one just as much as Black Panther. They're both 8s for me.

amjhwk ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:46:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What do you mean obviously not as good as black panther, BP was just another super hero movie

El_Chupacabra- ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:25:09 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

BP was just another super hero movie

with a subpar end fight scene. Gah that movie disappointed me so much.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:25:42 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Black Panther was easily a better film. Ant-Man and the Waspโ€™s story was all over the place.

_KanyeWest_ ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 05:09:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This was one of the best bank heist films of the decade. Marvel continues to nail diffirent genres with their properties!

Bulbasaur2015 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:36:18 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

have u seen many heist movies?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In the past decade? No not really.

The Town is the only good one I can remember.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:35 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One, Ant Man and the Wasp! /s

dugernaut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:51:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What did they heist?

[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 07:34:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Spilly42 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:53:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This was a palate cleanser movie. After Thanos, they took a break from villains and moved toward more of a lighter story with some obastacles as you put it. Felt right

dpatt_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:23:02 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If it's coming off like I didn't like the movie, that's incorrect, I enjoyed it. Unfortunately in this love it or hate it landscape, I fall around the middle, but definitely slanted positively. I think the two previous MCU movies were the real palette cleansers because they really felt fresh (particularly Black Panther) in terms of storytelling and directing. This was still a fun time don't get me wrong.

WallyJade ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:08:38 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Question about the mid-credits scene.

It went by quickly, but

TheArgonianTargaryen ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:35:49 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There were three

ethicalhamjimmies ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:14:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely wrong. If one of them survived then Scott being stuck in the quantum realm wouldnโ€™t be a big deal at all

Orleanian ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:34:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was just kinda assuming they'd have a deadman's switch to pull him out of the quantum realm after X amount of time regardless of their intervention. You'd think they'd learn their lessons and such.

WallyJade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:35:22 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We're pretty sure Ant-Man is in Avengers 4, so he gets out of there one way or another. I doubt he'll be hanging around in the quantum realm for too long.

muhash14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:12:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's probably going to be like how Thor managed to get to Earth for Avengers despite the Bifrost getting blown up in his movie. Scott will have an off screen quest and he'll manage it in time to witness the chaos.

Remember he got out once on his own as well.

physicx101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, the Avengers 4 set photos shows Ant-Man alongside the Avengers during the event of the first Avengers. What if Ant-Man goes through the time warp that Janet told him not to go to, that may explain what we see in the set photos

LuckyCapt-RabbitKing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

& he's got that healing business in a can.

ihatefruitfliez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i really really really hope they don't resolve iw through time travel or some shit

Time travel is very rarely done well, and even when it is it still leads to more questions than answers.

Plus then it raises the whole multiple realities issue where thanos could have won in every reality besides 1 and then we begin to question what's the point of "everything" if there are multiple everythings

just please, no time travel. no multiverses. no multiple realities.

Zifion1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not knowing that one of them survived works great for a cliffhanger, but finding out that one survived works great for getting Scott out in Avengers 4.

TheHoundThatRides ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:20:10 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I remember there being 3 but I could be wrong. And I also don't see why a survivor wouldn't answer Scott back for so long or be in the frame anymore. I don't think this is the direction they're taking.

WallyJade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the survivor could have run to the edge of the rooftop or something to see what the hell was going on all around them (dropping the mic in the process), and will be there after the scene we saw to rescue Scott.

cokeiscool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:26 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

oh no there was definitely three ashes

qkxz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:54:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One of them is obscured by some of the machinery but you see the third pile as it pans around to the communicator

Zifion1 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:12:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You are right. There were only 2. I noticed it right away and looked very carefully for the third one and it was not there. The were two piles of dust with a gap large enough for a person in between. This means that Hank and Janet turned to dust, but Hope did not. I am assuming that she shrunk down to Wasp when the other turned to dust and started looking around for an attacker, which explains her absence.

greatness101 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:00:49 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There were definitely 3 clouds.

qkxz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:36 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One of them is obscured by some of the machinery but you see the third pile as it pans around to the communicator

[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 20:22:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Solid but forgettable, like most Marvel movies.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:20:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That ending was the only time I've not only openly screamed, but the rest of the theater did as well.

ScarecrowTEP ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:35:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Are you 12?

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, why? My family just doesn't like it when we're vocal in a theater and we've never been in one that's vocal cause we're never for opening nights...except for Infinity War and this one.

ScarecrowTEP ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:51:29 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Openly screaming is a bit of an extreme reaction for this mediocre movie.

Dallywack3r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:32:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Openly screamed? Yeah, sure. That happened.

dewsh ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:10:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There were people who screamed in my theater

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:27:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Like horror movie scream or more of a gasp?

dewsh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One girl definitely screamed. Most were shocked gasps

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:00:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:32:20 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Screw that. If there's anything that needs to be cut out of the film, it's Water Goggins' character. He's a generic evil rich guy, didn't bring any emotional depth or personal connection to the role.

Midwest__Misanthrope ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:19:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

His line about his restaurant while he was under truth serum was literally the only good thing that came from the character. He might be the most wasted actor in the entire MCU

Jkbdm ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 13:01:45 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is a filler movie. The same way the walking dead has filler episodes.

This is a throwaway film.

It was funny but a bit pointless

inexcess ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:15:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think the quantum realm might be involved somehow with the overarching story, but who knows.

Sikwon12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:30:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The MCU dosen't do "filler" movies. Even Thor the Dark World had ramifications to the wider MCU.

joris_eli ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 14:03:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Age of Ultron is literally a filler movie.

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:16:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The events in AOU cause the Sakovia accords, which cause Civil War, which causes the Avengers to be split up in Infintiy War. Not a filler movie.

_RoundCube_ ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:36:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wut

Nidaime_EroSennin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:57:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

nah.. the post credit thing definitely has an important tie to Infinity War. Why else would Janet went out of her way to mention time vortex?

Jkbdm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:22:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So 2 hours for one line?

Nidaime_EroSennin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:45:36 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well not really.. I mean it is an Ant Man sequel. The story should be about Ant Man and its own mini universe instead of focusing solely on tying everything to the MCU (or more specifically Infinity War). I mean Ragnarok has its own story and adventure that's pretty inconsequential to Infinity War except for the post credit scene too. Isn't that how all Marvel movies that's not titled Avengers had been? every character has their own trilogy and story arcs with a little bit connection here and there with the bigger universe with its implications but for the most part they were focused on their own story, which often has nothing to do with Thanos or Infinity Stones (GOTG2, Homecoming, BP). Not every standalone MCU movies has to be a direct sequel to every Avengers movie you know, otherwise what's the point in making each hero their own movies?

This movie did explain why Scott was missing in IW and how it could potentially be the turning point in the war against Thanos. That doesn't mean it should neglect Scott's own personal story arc.

Johnny-Hollywood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And to establish the powers of Wasp, set up Ghost, and show Scott's access to a time vortex that is 100% integral to Avengers 4.

SpacePistachio ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 23:03:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Everytime I look at Michael Pena I remember that he's a Scientologist and it took me out of the film.

Bomber131313 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:26:38 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I remember that he's a Scientologist and it took me out of the film.

I know I'm going to regret this, but why does that matter?

ArrrGaming ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 00:50:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because those people are bad. Similar to how other religions are bad except that this is a recent invention and they're still bad, have killed people, etc. You may as well ask why it matters that actor name is an avowed neo nazi or something.

Bomber131313 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:58:24 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You may as well ask why it matters that actor name is an avowed neo nazi or something.

I would ask that. As long as the movie or TV aren't pushing these things, why would it matter what the actor or actresses does in real life?

SpacePistachio ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 23:43:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It isn't a big deal, but if you view for other threads on this subreddit about Micheal Pena, every comment is about his "religion".

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:41 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

every comment is about his religion.

So? What does that have to do with this movie?

SpacePistachio ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:28:14 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, Michael Pena is in the movie. it was just my opinion, lay off me.

Bomber131313 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:32:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, Michael Pena is in the movie

But what does Pena religion have to do with his acting or this movie?

SpacePistachio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I already said that, stop replying to me.

Bomber131313 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I already said that

You really didn't.

stop replying to me.

I love when people say something dumb like this, it's kinda hypothetical don't you think?

SpacePistachio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:47:07 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ok. Scientology is a cult.

Bomber131313 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:51:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So? What does Scientology have to do with this movie?

Why do 'actors' real lives matter in relation to a film or TV show they are in?

SupremeLeaderSnoke ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:35:51 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Scientologists are batshit crazy and dangerous. the group has been involved with people being tortured, imprisoned, murdered and all kinds of other terrible things. They harass and stalk people who attempt to defect, blackmail them and threaten their families. It's a pretty scary cult so it's a letdown to find out that an actor is one. I try not to let it ruin my enjoyment of movies but it does make me lose a lot of respect for said actor. Especially because a lot of their money is going toward the cult and possibly being used to hurt people.

Bomber131313 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:14:16 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

the group has been involved with people being tortured, imprisoned, murdered and all kinds of other terrible things

That can be said for almost any religion. That doesn't mean all people in said group are bad.

but it does make me lose a lot of respect for said actor.

I guess I don't give a shit about what actors/actresses do in their real life........at all. Apparently, Kevin Spacey is a pervert, I still like House of Cards, Seven, and LA Confidential. Unless the show is pushing a bad message I don't care what actors/actresses do.

gamerholic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I suggest you go through every person involved in every film, not just actors, and do research on their belief just to be safe! I'm with you brotha!

[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 07:58:10 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Literally the definition of โ€˜mehโ€™

Rockergage ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 21:33:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Okay film ruined by a loud audience and bad popcorn. Hope we get more Michael Pena such a great actor.

the_rooster421 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:51:18 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You donโ€™t see many call out for more of the comic relief. His act grew old for me this time around. Funny at times but it was just over and over and over.

MiamiFootball ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:02:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

MoviePass for this or the purge? I donโ€™t really like comic movies aside from dark knight or the first iron man. This recent avengers was pretty good too. I liked the first purge and donโ€™t remember the others. Whatโ€™s the call? Is this movie like guardians of the galaxy and that kind of stuff - I just donโ€™t like that kind of sense of humor and general tone.

Mws23 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:05:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Based on your preferences I don't think you'll enjoy this one, in terms of humor it's similar to Guardians of the Galaxy where it's riddled throughout the movie. Since you already liked the first Purge movie I'd see that instead.

MiamiFootball ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:08:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nice - thank you

Filmmaker_Dude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you have MoviePass why not just go see everything you're even remotely interested in? I have it and I'll try to get as much use out of it as I can. I've actually seen some things I've really liked that I wouldn't have seen otherwise.

AvecFromage ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 01:22:01 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Boring, and almost every joke fell flat. Glad I saw this with Sinemia and didnโ€™t waste money on it.

MystiqueMisty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:06 on July 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I used my Sinemia IMAX for Antman too. I don't know, my premium format cycle was renewed and I wanted to see an IMAX. It was cool but seen better ones

DungBettlesMan ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 07:32:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Incredibly average, worst movie from the MCU so far. I wouldnโ€™t even download this illegally. Was there even a villain? This has got to be the worst villain Marvel thought of so far. So much potential wasted on Lawrence Fishburne. Same with Walter Goggins. The jokes were horrible as well. The jokes were from start to finish but horribly executed. They just turned out cringy and unnecessary most of the time. Seriously, learn from Thor how to make a good action comedy superhero movie.

Honestly, people are just giving this turd a pass because itโ€™s from Marvel. The only memorable scene was the mid-credit scene.

ClubSoda ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:43:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude, Disney planned for a very light-hearted tonic to soothe the drama and frazzled nerves after IW. This fits the prescription admirably. Its aim is true in my books.

DungBettlesMan ยท -22 points ยท Posted at 07:47:44 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cool. Did they also plan to release an incredibly average, unmemorable, badly written movie too. If they did, then their aim is true in my books.

ClubSoda ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:08:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Look, I understand you want to hold up each successive Marvel film to the utter brilliance of IW but really, that doesn't make sense. This film has a specific goal: to be light and less dramatic...and on that level it admirably succeeds. I thought it was brilliantly conceived and wonderfully directed. Making the family the focus of the various stories (Scott Lang, Hope Pym) was the right direction here after IW. Disney is not WB...they know what they are doing and have the stories mapped out exactly the way they intended. They didn't want a dark, heavy handed, overly dramatic plot right after IW...any director will tell you that you cannot sustain that in a story.

DungBettlesMan ยท -22 points ยท Posted at 08:10:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude. How the fuck you came to the conclusion that I want every film to be like IW? Youโ€™re just putting words in my mouth. All I want is a decent movie not garbage. Who says anything about a dark movie. Just a good movie. Stop being a fucking tool.

ClubSoda ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:09:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ok, I'll bite...what exactly did you object to in the movie? What makes you label it 'garbage'?

fascist___hag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I found it enjoyable, but I totally get where you're coming from. The villains were weak sauce (unfortunately, since Marvel had been turning it around with the last few), and another commenter mentioned there wasn't any true growth for any of the characters by the time the movie ended. However, I appreciated the action and comedy for what it was. They can't be winners for everyone though!

But really, worst MCU movie? Just out of sincere curiosity, where do you rank Thor 2 and Iron Man 2?

EpicLatios ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 01:50:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dread it

austinsystem ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:53:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Run from it

ThePikaNick ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 01:51:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Run from it.

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[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:00:51 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Examples?

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flamethrower78 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:12:08 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
xitzsgx ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:44:11 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
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Rayofpain ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:40:17 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

LOL this is too good

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:47:43 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Dallywack3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was clearly Scott's house

Volkanickk ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:18 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can anyone tell me how this movie is part of the infinity war/avengers storyline? Also, a brief summary of the credit scenes would be awesome.

jdmf87 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:29:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It takes place directly before/during the events of IW, with the post-credit sequences being immediately after and some unknown time after the snap

Bomber131313 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:48:44 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

how this movie is part of the infinity war/avengers storyline?

Absolutely nothing to do with it.

brief summary of the credit scenes would be awesome.

First scene-Hank, Janet, and Hope send Scott into the quantum realm and as Scott is in side the realm the snap happens and Hank, Janet, and Hope all turn to dust leaving Scott inside the realm with no way out.

Second scene, shows an empty Scotts house likely the results of the snap and it pans until it shows a big ant playing the drums.

iciclepenis ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 22:54:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The exposition scene with Ghost and Bill was shockingly unrealistic. Being interrupted with Scottโ€™s phone ringing I was wondering what the creative forces were thinking. Is this a serious moment or not? It seems like the new path for Marvel, but I really wish they wouldnโ€™t undercut every bit of seriousness with goofiness.

Walter Gogginโ€™s character was reduced to a Scooby Doo villain within the same scene he was introduced. He even ran around with his henchmen like a cartoon in the climax. When he got on the ferry he might as well have shouted โ€œsmell ya later Ant-Man!โ€

Aside from early on when Ghost threatened Hankโ€™s life and the reveal that her intention is to kill Janet at the end, she was merely a nuisance. โ€œI momentarily need your tech!โ€ The FBI was a nuisance to our heroes and my patience. This was Nuisance The Movie.

Honestly, if you took away the comic booky elements of the Quantum Realm, control over ants, and size manipulation, this would be just another by the numbers throwaway summer movie.

EDIT: Oh, shit. Apparently no criticism allowed. Downvoted to hell.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:25:04 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œI momentarily need your tech!โ€

I haven't laughed this hard in a while. If this movie doesn't prove that Marvel are completely untouchable, then nothing ever will.

The reality is, all people care about is humor and cool visual effects in action scenes. They don't care that this is a cookie-cutter, thin plot. They don't care that Marvel must have purposefully tried to make two villains that turned out this bad. They don't care that not a single character had an arc or any real development so much so that they end the film as the exact same people who began it.

Marvel has no obligation to craft meaningful stories, which they have proven they can do but only when they want to. People just want popcorn flicks now with cool references and over the top comedy.

Some of the comments below this are literally "funny/good action". If that doesn't prove who this movie is for...

Obelisp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:28 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Took the words right out of my mouth. And remember the seagulls, they were such a nuisance!

iciclepenis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:29:52 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would argue the seagulls scene did not portray itself as a lazy addition that padded the runtime. It was humorous and did not arbitrarily delay Ant-Manโ€™s goal. Ant-Man planned to go in small; the seagulls changed his strategy.

On the other hand, the FBI prevents Scottโ€™s continued assistance with Hope and Hank. He has to run home just to have more quips with Agent Woo. Scott has a momentary falling out with H&H. Then those two are arrested by the FBI. Scott breaks them out ending their unnecessary capture and irritation towards Scott. Thatโ€™s some nuisance right there.

CaptainLang ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 22:59:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That scene was the worst part of the movie. They tried to make it out to be a parody of scenes where villains monologue before the heroes but it was so poorly executed. The Incredibles handled it so much better because Syndrome became aware of what he was doing, laughed, and then stopped. This scene just goes on and on and on and on...

Bulbasaur2015 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 04:18:06 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

just got out of the movie

initial reaction was theatre went nuts at the first end credits scene

its funny that the van Dyke family thinks its good time to go subatomic when the earth was UNDER ATTACK BY THANOS

what happened to clints and scotts families being under house arrest? fucking inconsistencies

more later

rohay ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:23:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The whole movie Scotts on house arrest just him not his family why would they put the family on house arrest they didn't break any laws

TaddWinter ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:50:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I doubt they are getting minute by minute updates of Scott Lang's legal entanglements. He took the deal (thus the house arrest) to be with his family, not to serve it out and leave his family to help with their shit. He retired by accepting the deal and not going on the run.

Bulbasaur2015 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:01:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

thanks for the clarification

Filthy_Firestarter ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 16:10:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't care about the plot until the last 45 minutes. The gangster characters were getting in the way of Ava's character, but she didn't really have much of a character anyway. Also I was disappointed that it really didn't have anything to do with the overall MCU plot. I'd give it a 5.5/10. Fun movie but kinda pointless. This is a Netflix movie.

Altephor1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:25:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also I was disappointed that it really didn't have anything to do with the overall MCU plot.

Yet.

Bigb011 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:27:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wish that they got rid of the gangster characters and just gave ghost and bill foster more screen time instead.

[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 06:09:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was a great movie overall. The only part that took me out of it because it was so unrealistic is when they were driving in the tiny cars and there was no turbulence whatsoever. In reality they would have been wrecked in an instant.

witchdocwayne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes I need actual physics in my movie about people shrinking to the size of ants and growing to the size of skyscrapers.

rocksoffjagger ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 22:50:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, what a letdown. Pretty much the only positive things I can say about this movie are that I loved seeing more of Hope in this installment, and that they thought of some really fun and creative applications/action scenes invloving the size-changing technology. Other than that, the story was basically a rehash of all the jokes and shticks from the first one, but with less humor and a sense of boredom hanging heavily over all of them, centered entirely around the one little detail of the first movie that I found the worst: quantum bullshit pseudoscience. They introduced a super cool antagonist, with an insanely awesome (visually, if you ignore the pseudoscience explanation behind it) power, only to completely squander her by not investigating anything but the most rudementary cliche back story (that honestly only half makes sense as a motivation for her disliking the main characters. Like you've gotta squint your eyes and tilt your head just right to see how she could see it that way). Over all, I'd give this movie maybe a 5/10 only because I like all the actors and the basic premise, but honestly it just feels like a real waste of a story that I thought was one of the less-appreciated gems of the marvel universe. At least the cut scene was exciting.

Edit: You'd think if 15+ people are going to downvote a review of the movie, at least one of them would take five minutes to explain why they think it's wrong. Just a bunch of blind sheep who feel threatened by anything that suggests an MCU movie was sub-par.

NookanCranny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:42 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ignore the hive mind. I'm also perplexed as to how this movie is getting good ratings. It was so incredibly paint by numbers I was thoroughly disappointed after loving the first movie so much.

[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 23:17:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Marvel is the only company with enough cache and blind support that can get away with these below average, and sometimes outright bad in this case, solo hero stories.

Your point about Ghost's motivations are spot on.

Alanosbornftw ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 18:23:43 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

(Spoilers) This movie is all over the place with tone. It wants to b happy with his daughter scenes and really showing off Wasp. But then make Ghost pretty much be 1 note. Shoulda killed her off at end yet they make wuts her name save her but not fully for some reason. And then the old guy somehow miniaturizes the quantum realm portal and puts it in the back of a car. I thought they were collecting the healing stuff to rematteralize ppl who got taken by Thanos's snap but nope. How long did this take? And he got released from house arrest b4 this scene. So he was free from house arrest for months or a year after it took them however long to put the portal in the back of a car. Yet Captain America says he was still under house arrest I think in Infinity war which is less than a full day b4 the snap happens. All 3 of them get turned to dust and what about Antmans daughter?

qkxz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:41:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But then make Ghost pretty much be 1 note

is she supposed to sympathize with scott or hank or something? shes dying in 2 weeks and desperate af

Shoulda killed her off at end yet they make wuts her name save her but not fully for some reason

janet probably used the same healing particles they wanted to extract from her. it would have killed janet because ghost wanted to use everything she had, janet only helped her in the moment and they had to search for more particles

I thought they were collecting the healing stuff to rematteralize ppl who got taken by Thanos's snap but nope

this is just dumb to think. even post snap, unless they had met the avengers and went through everything with them they would have no idea what is going on

So he was free from house arrest for months or a year after it took them however long to put the portal in the back of a car. Yet Captain America says he was still under house arrest I think in Infinity war which is less than a full day b4 the snap happens

i doubt it was months or years, probably days at most. they probably don't know the exact date of the ending of his house arrest and even if they do, scott is still under probation for 3 years after. otherwise it's just a very minor mistake in continuity

i'm sure there are some real reasons to dislike the movie, like having generic evil businessman just be in the way. but the things you list here don't even make sense if you put any thought at all into them

Maelstrom52 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i doubt it was months or years, probably days at most. they probably don't know the exact date of the ending of his house arrest and even if they do, scott is still under probation for 3 years after. otherwise it's just a very minor mistake in continuity

Not only that, but this is a universe where we've already accepted that Tony Stark can build a new Iron Man suit a week and fabricate it in under an hour. If you're going to start dissecting the movie on realism, that ship sailed a LONG time ago. And this movie is supposed to take place a month or two before the events of Infinity War and ends just after the snap.

gamesrgreat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:37:34 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Somehow miniaturized? Did you forget what movie you're watching? XD

saltshiner ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:32:01 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i wish reddit wasn't full of older angry people and would actually listen to you. The movie was meh

BravoBuzzard ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 21:06:54 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just walked out of am/w. I really liked it, but I noticed some poor editing in the first act. My wife didnโ€™t even notice them, but it kind of bugged me.

Sh4d0wr1der ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:54:15 on July 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

From someone who didn't see the first Ant Man, I was rather lost trying to put together the pieces at the beginning. It did fine eventually, but the movie doesn't stand on its own that well. My daughter and I laughed a ton, but without seeing the first, I didn't feel there was enough of a connection between the characters.

As far as people saying they didn't like the CGI, or the story line isn't as good as other Marvel movies, that's really the reason I never cared to see the first one. The premise just seems too far outside the realm of the other Marvel movies. It had the corniness feeling of "Honey I Shrunk the Kids" to me.

Movies are escapism for me. Just make me laugh, or scare the hell out of me and I'll enjoy them, which is what this movie did for me.

Inehvitable ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:16:23 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It is a sequel. You simply canโ€™t judge a sequel without seeing the first movie. Smh

thedailynathan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:16 on July 17, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Most of the Marvel movies have actually been pretty decent in this regard. Civil War was the first Captain America movie I watched, and I had also only seen Iron Man before Avengers. They hold up really well without context.

enigmazweb24 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 02:34:00 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ITT and ITSR: Every movie ever made sucks.

LaceandBatman ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 05:39:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is not going to be popular I imagine, but does anyone else struggle with Evangeline Lilly's acting? I found the little girl that played Cassie to be less wooden...

I also found Laurence Fishburne to be an unnecessary character.

Zer0Fucks2Give ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:56:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I found myself struggling more with becoming distracted by Evangeline Lilly, which nothing to do with her acting... (which I had no problem with, although I think her performance in the first film was stronger).

Can't agree with you about Fishburne, though; he grounded the Ghost character, leant her sympathy and prevented her being 'just another antagonist.'

LaceandBatman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:42 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha! She is awfully good looking.

But I definitely appreciate your perspective on Fishburne... I guess I found it all a bit contrived, with all of the subplots going on. I do think it is refreshing that they twisted on a classic villain character.

Bomber131313 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:22:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

but does anyone else struggle with Evangeline Lilly's acting?

Do you always find her that way.

I mean her character is supposed to be wooden/cold in the movie.

LaceandBatman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:15 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hmm. I actually really liked her in Lost and have no personal vendetta against her.

I think I need a second watching to get to the root of what I am feeling.

Bomber131313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:53 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean her character is meant to be cold/wooden.

KalBaratheon ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 23:57:46 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This movie was extremely mediocre. It really felt like they were just going through the motions, in acting, writing, directing, everything. Like, they did the same "get back before the feds catch me" scene twice; Ghost is just healed by a deus ex machina; Hank and Bill are mad at each other for years, with Hank refusing to help Ghost until he randomly decides to; I can't really pinpoint when Hope and Hank stopped being mad a Scott because it just seemed to ebb and flow until everybody likes him again at the end. There were basically no consequences in this movie until the after credits scene.

Oh, and this was probably the least funny MCU movie that i've seen. I don't think anybody in my theater actually truly laughed at anything. But, then again, I went at 4 pm on a Wednesday so there weren't many people.

Tunelowplayslow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:03 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would hate to be THIS cynical.

KalBaratheon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:30:52 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So, thinking this movie is mediocre means i'm cynical?? Lol better than being a shallow minded fanboy I guess :/

Do you get paid to defend these Marvel movies or what?

Tunelowplayslow ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:32:15 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Now you call me shallow minded? Enjoy those downvotes.

KalBaratheon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:36:20 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I called you shallow-minded because you are. Oh no, downvotes?!?!?!?!

I knew exactly what I was getting into when I posted a negative opinion in a MCU thread lol

NookanCranny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:08 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Blind fans downvoted them. OP MUST be wrong. What even.

FuckWithDurian ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think Scott survive the snap because he in the quantum realm (time and space are irrelevant) and in the avenger 4 they travel back in time and built big ass quantum real machine and put everyone in earth in quantum realm so everybody survive the snap

CougsLeadTheWay ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 19:57:29 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Hey Scott, we know you're Ant-Man and we literally just saw you on TV violating your house arrest...

BUUUUUT since you're in your place right now guess there's no evidence and we just have to let you go. Have fun!"

Uhhhhh K

Kyrroti ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:01:24 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t think he could prove that Scott was wearing the suit at the time.

Bluestagg360 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:53 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He was talking when we was getting sleepy in giant form. Idk if that could be heard or not though.

compatrini ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Even if it does, his voice sounds really deep when he's in that state.

Bluestagg360 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:37:25 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. That's true. They don't have any concrete evidence so there's not much they can do.

CougsLeadTheWay ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:19:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Does it though? Because he was talking throughout that entire ordeal (near dock and near the ferry) and it didn't sound any different from how he normally sounds. Same thing in Civil War.

SanityPills ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:02:01 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Literally anyone, including Hank, could have been wearing that suit. And they can't get him on the use or creation of the suit like they did with Pym because it's not even Scott's suit.

CougsLeadTheWay ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:35:02 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone could have been in there, yes. But the fact that he could have been in there and LITERALLY THE FBI just waves it off and decides to not investigate further is hard to believe. I get that he was supposed to be the most cartoon-y "villain" here, but c'mon.

SanityPills ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:38:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How exactly were they supposed to investigate him further? Babysit him for 24 hours or something? Seems like it would be a waste of FBI time to do something like that every time Ant-Man shows up. And if you mean a full sweep like at the beginning of the movie, that's just a waste of screen time. We already know they do that, we don't need to see it every time.

CougsLeadTheWay ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:41:32 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They could have looked at security cameras and social media posts about what just happened to see if there was any point of evidence that it was him. As they mentioned at the beginning of the movie, it was a joint agreement between the German government and the FBI, so even the chance that he violated his house arrest should have been investigated further internally and not just a "Ah, Scott, you got us this time you dog".

Maybe I should suspend my disbelief a bit more since we're talking about Ant-Man...

SanityPills ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:20 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think you're assuming a lot of other stuff isn't happening just because it's not being brought up. Screen time is precious, it's a waste to show them giving social media a crawl for 3 minutes to finally to 'welp, we've confirmed the person at the pier was definitely a person of indiscriminate gender in an Ant-Man suit'. And keep in mind, this investigative team is split between Hank and Scott. They're on the far side of San Francisco hot on the trail almost definitely chasing down Hank Pym or his associates when the team thinks Scott has something to do with it. They find him still chilling there not having violated his house arrest while Hank Pym, the real fugitive, has a hot trail quickly going cold. Do you think they're going to spend the extra man power trying to get one on the guy that is probably not caught up in things, and if he is he's such a minor player as he's under watch, cooperating, and has nothing to do with the technology side. Or are they going to go back as quickly as possible to the actual man behind the curtain who is still on the run, and whose trail is quickly getting cold?

[deleted] ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 02:26:20 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This film is absolute, pure and utter trash.

corvettee01 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:36:01 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Elaborate?

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:26:24 on July 19, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have seen many people on here make similar claims is this guy, and no one has backed it up with any real examples. Was it a perfect movie, by no means. But absolute pure utter trash, come on now lol. Good luck getting a well though out response from anyone.

MerkelLovesDarkMeat ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:53 on July 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
  • The 2 villains sucked. The black market bigshot was like a TV bad guy.

  • The security company guys - the sidekicks - were just there for comic relief, and they did a poor job of it because they were just goofy.

  • Half the movie was about Scott and his stupid kid and not breaking his probation. I don't care.

  • This movie was made for the teen and pre-teen crowd. I'm neither.

LnGrrrR ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:51:08 on July 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Reasons why Citizen Kane was the worst movie ever:

It was filmed in black and white. I like color.

It was made a long time ago, and I am too young for old movies.

The movie was meant to be dramatic. I didn't care about what Rosebud meant. Fail.

seeingeyegod ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:27:08 on July 23, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

you call the kid stupid, I downvote you. She was great and a continued character from the first movie

DancingChromosome ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:28:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I really loved this. I was confused on the first end credit scene because I didnโ€™t watch infinity war then I realized.... oh.

Hitzkolpf ยท -30 points ยท Posted at 18:00:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If it wasn't because of Edgar Wright, the first Ant-Man wouldn't have been decent. This proves it.

kurokuma78 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:30 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Are you saying you didn't like A/W? I thought the first one was much better too

Hitzkolpf ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:53:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's exactly what I'm saying. It's hilarious how much this blows without the kind of groundwork Edgar laid in the first film to work off.

mcugettingstale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:45 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lmao wtf just a few hours ago your comment was like +30 now it's -32! These fanboys spare no one !

NookanCranny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:35 on July 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

At least he gave it a nice creative flair. This movie seems to join the ever increasing list of generic run of the mill superhero movies.

mcugettingstale ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 18:47:05 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly. And i see people here saying "this is WAY better than the predecessor Bravo Marvel Bravo!" like fn kill me

BawsDaddy ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was cringing all throughout the film.

Lira70 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:57:01 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just saw it. Really entertaining movie. Not great but it does the job. I wonder how he'll come into play in Avengers 4.

_theuser ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:08:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fuckery is afoot!

McMqsmith ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:19:56 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Once again Michael Peรฑa steals all of the scenes heโ€™s in.

Bochhhhh ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:17:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Where were Scott's wings from the trailer?

dwarfgourami ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:40:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I actually wasnโ€™t a big fan of this movie. The only scenes I really liked were Michelle Pfeiffer possessing Antman and the first post credits scenes. The funny or emotional scenes felt really forced to me, like they were written to be filler.

Also, I was really distracted during the scenes with the older mom because she just looked like current day Michelle Pfeiffer in a gray wig.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:40:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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GetClappedUp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:26 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos does not appear in this film. The only tie into Infinity war was the first end credits scene

jimmyolsenblues ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:08 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you.

sooperkool ยท -33 points ยท Posted at 21:44:35 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I thought Jimmy Woo's throwaway line about having dinner with Scott would be a good way to introduce an LGBT character into the MCU

DCouri ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:14:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why would having dinner automatically make them gay?

sooperkool ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 23:23:06 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is so obtuse as to be hilarious. That isn't even close to what I am talking about

CallerBoneRinging ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

?

sooperkool ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 22:12:20 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

During the whole "see you later conversation", paraphrasing here:

Scott: I thought you maybe wanted to have dinner or something

Jimmy: No, I didn't. Oh never mind...wait did you want to have dinner because I'm free.

Ghidoran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think it's funnier if he wasn't gay.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:38 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:01 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

how is it forced?

gildedart ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 02:25:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Movie was pretty bad dunno what yโ€™all are going on about

Jenkins246 ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 19:57:27 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Never has a Marvel movie not care or even be slightly invested in the characters at all. The โ€œvillainโ€ was so underdeveloped and one dimensional. I wouldโ€™ve loved to actually see Ghost do some batshit crazy thing like kidnap the daughter. Also how Pym and his daughter were pissed at Lang for leaving so he WOULDNT go to jail even though they didnโ€™t really even need him anymore

Bomber131313 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:38:42 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

actually see Ghost do some batshit crazy thing like kidnap the daughter.

How is that 'batshit'? Yellowjacket took her hostage in the first film.

And have the โ€œvillainโ€ not be a bad guy(gal), but someone suffering with pain and just desperate to just save her own life was a nice change.

gmanpizza ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:20:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair Lang really fucked over Pym and Hope by going to Germany with the suit, he should be expected to help them when they need him. But they werenโ€™t even that pissed when he finally left.

beefytrout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:01:33 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Edgy.

Jenkins246 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 20:06:14 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Look it wasnโ€™t a terrible movie, it just not that good. Thereโ€™s nothing edgy about pointing flaws in a piece of work. And if youโ€™re gonna respond with some stupid bullshit like โ€œlighten up itโ€™s a superhero movieโ€ youโ€™re absolutely right, but if a studio spends MILLIONS of dollars on a film, shouldnโ€™t the written characters actually be fucking decent? Shouldnโ€™t actions make sense?

[deleted] ยท -20 points ยท Posted at 01:29:50 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Kashpee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:20 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Get out of here Suicide Squad

DarthSwanson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:00 on July 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't watch any trailers and enjoyed it. Not the best plot for sure but it was what I expected after AM1: fun.

MrPeanut111 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 03:19:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m not saying itโ€™s a bad movie, but I just donโ€™t care about Marvel movies anymore because they are shit out so often! Theyโ€™re good quality, but I just donโ€™t have the same excitement I did for say, Infinity War

Lol @all the hardcore marvel fanboys downvoting me.

WillieButtz ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 03:33:43 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Normally, I would bitch and moan about a movie like this, but this one isn't worth the energy. If the people making the film didn't give a shit, why should I? The story makes no sense, the best moments are in the trailer, and the action scenes are uninspired. The concept behind Ant Man is SO good and should lend itself really well to film. But instead it's just vapid and unimaginative.

Also, movies in general need to stop pointing out their own plot holes. Being self aware doesn't give you a free pass to take narrative short cuts.

Anyways, now I'm doing the exact thing that I said I wouldn't do. And now I'm being self aware to justify my rant. Two strikes on me I guess.

PS - Fuck the post credit scene. That shit was in the trailer.

CynicalRaps ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:17:51 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't recall seeing Hope and them dusted in there trailer, furthermore, this has to be the most bullshit post I've ever seen, at no point do you elaborate on your claims, just more mindless bashing.

WillieButtz ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 14:28:53 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hence why I said the POST credit scene and not the MID credit scene.

CynicalRaps ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:34:21 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They showed the drumming ant 3 times, but that wasn't the point of that scene... Guess you missed it...

WillieButtz ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 14:53:44 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

For example, when they showed it on the phone. But the EXACT clip (you can tell by the framing) which was shown in the trailer, is the same one at the end. It's just lame.

CynicalRaps ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:38:58 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Gotcha, I think it's silly too tbh, I was more interested in the state of emergency portion of it, I thought it would go dark and show more empty streets, people looking for loved ones etc... Nope, they had to take it lightly...

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:00:08 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mind elaborating? You say all this stuff but donโ€™t give any examples (minus the end credits scene)

WillieButtz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:34:06 on July 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'll keep it concise since once again, I feel like full blown discussion/debate isn't quite worth it.

-everything surrounding Janet (and her magic healing abilities at the end)

-mostly everything related to shrinking/growing is in the trailer

-when Ant Man calls out the script for inserting "quantum" in front of words or how Goggins purchased a ferry ticket. This might sound trite but it's an annoying new trend in films as of late (looking at you Deadpool 2)

Steven8811 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:33:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was really confused with the direction they took Nick Fury for this film.

Edit: since Iโ€™m getting downvoted Iโ€™d figure Iโ€™d at least explain this comment is a joke and in reference to that new anchor that confused Samuel L Jackson and Laurence Fishburne.

Saqib1493 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:59 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Whst happened at the end??? The after credit?

mccoyeherold2111 ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 04:21:23 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I watched the first Ant Man yesterday and I watched Ant Man and the Wasp today and what I get from it is that Marvel took the basic synopsis from Iron Man and just ran with it for these to make it easier for them. The villain in the first one is basically the exact same as Obadiah from Iron Man. In Iron Man 3, Tony has a lot of trouble because his suit is buggy and glitches a lot. Sound familiar still? I enjoyed both movies, especially Luis and his elaborate stories he goes into, but honestly Marvel just could have tried harder.

h3rp3r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:45:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You are a very wise and intuitive critic to realize that Marvel movies are formulaic.

chunkybuttflake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:32 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

BAM!

O1Truth ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 04:23:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As much as I wanted this too be good there are too many holes.

Please show your audience, donโ€™t tell. I feel like I was treated dumb the whole time.

What does she eat in the QR, she shouldโ€™ve aged after exiting. How are they unaware of thanos/earth invasion?

Sure I can think of more later, just a little disappointed

asianorange ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:44:28 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Perhaps that they were in the west coast and they were working on a science project and not checking their phones. All the dusting happened really fast.

fzammetti ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:55:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think this is right. The movie takes place in San Francisco, and I assume that's where they still are at the end. The events of Infinity War in NY and then Wakanda take place over just a few hours. Wakanda doesn't seem to have totally come out of the shadows yet in IW. All of that taken together makes it pretty easy for me to believe they either weren't aware of what was going on (not fully anyway) or were just so preoccupied with their own work that they were like "eh, The Avengers got that handled".

IAMA_LongHorse ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:47:27 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

None of the stuff you mentioned are plot holes.

ScarecrowTEP ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:34:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's a shame you're getting downvoted, the exposition was pretty bad in this movie, especially when Ghost and Lawrence Fishbourne are explaining their backstory.

Dallywack3r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Where the fuck did Janet get a cloak?

Someguy2020 ยท -24 points ยท Posted at 06:22:34 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It was fun, but I didnโ€™t enjoy it that much. Kind of like Black Panther. Villain wasnโ€™t particularly villainous, superpowers were not all that important really. I was hoping for more of an infinity war reference. The jokes were a bit much.

I had more fun watching it than black panther, but itโ€™s middling at best.

GGuitarHero ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 06:54:17 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Much better than black panther but that's not exactly saying much

SpacePistachio ยท -24 points ยท Posted at 00:28:47 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How the hell does the movie have a 88% rotten tomato score?

Mitraileuse ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:35:50 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because 88% of the critics who watched it liked it.

SpacePistachio ยท -31 points ยท Posted at 00:41:11 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Score is way to high.

Mitraileuse ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:50:52 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's not a score thought,it's just the Tomatometer.

No_sign ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:46:09 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just in case, you know the difference between the "tomatometer" and the "average rating", do you?

thekingofthejungle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Most people don't.

Bomber131313 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:06:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just out of curiosity what would you score it on a 0-10 scale?

SpacePistachio ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:11:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

7

Bomber131313 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:18:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, if that's true you would be part of the 86% rotten tomatoes score(the score as of right now is 86%).

The % given in the rotten tomatoes score is the percentage of critics who scored the movie higher then 6.

The actually movie score on RT is 6.9. So they rate it a hair lower then you.

bjacks12 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:21:57 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ironic. He could save others from liking the movie, but not himself

[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 22:39:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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GomuGomu_no_Keyblade ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:43:54 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
theboredomkiller ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 13:03:44 on July 15, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
baiacool ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 23:40:59 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It bothers me a lot that they aren't touching on the subject of the Pym Particles making Hank lose his mind. This portrayal of his as a good husband feels forced so we forget that he used to beat Janet up in the comics.

mr_cobbins ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:51:57 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

it's a conscious decision by disney. tony isn't an alcoholic in the movies compared to the comics.

baiacool ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:52:49 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

that bothers me as well, I get why they do it, but imho it makes the characters more shallow than they're supposed to be

StarfleetCapAsuka ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:43:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Both Reed Richards and Peter Parker hit their wives in Earth-616 comics too. For some reason, this lingers over Hank Pym in other adaptations and media in a way that it doesn't for the other two.

Nollasta_poikkeava ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:05:45 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He didn't use to beat Janet up. He attacked her once during mental breakdown. After that Hank has tried to redeem himself for years.

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:04:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's fine for him to have a bit of a temper as a nod (like Tony drinking) but the wife-beater angle is a little much for the action-comedy these Ant-Man movies are going for.

baiacool ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:58:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I know that, I'm not saying that the movie is bad or something because of this, it just makes the characters feel a bit shallow imho, the same thing with Tony not being an alcoholic, or the fact that Vision and Wanda had a super nice relationship (although that had less focus so it doesn't bother me that much

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:09:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

TIL: Being a wife-beater makes a character deep

baiacool ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 02:22:19 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah, because that's what I said.

idiot

SupremeLeaderSnoke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:13 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry you are being downvoted. I get what you are saying. I don't totally agree with it but I definitely see what you mean.

myusernamestaken ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:05 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And Randall Park's character isn't a hard ass FBI agent who has the knack to work for SHIELD etc. It's a lighter, comical (pun intended) take on the comics.

baiacool ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:52:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but that character isn't as prominent as Hank Pym.

SonofSanguinius87 ยท -25 points ยท Posted at 12:27:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Does this mean Evangeline Lilly will finally stop the press tour yet? I'm bored of hearing about how people just CAN'T BELIEVE that there's a woman superhero (you know, besides all the ones in the MCU like Gamora, Black widow, Nebula, Valkyrie etc) And about how the men are all just big babies for complaining about their costumes.

Edit: Maybe I'm missing something but feel free to point out to me how this post is political in the slightest, or how I'm a Trump supporter, or how I'm complaining about how oppressed white males are. I'm honestly confused as fuck because while it's a negative opinion on the press run for the movie, nothing I said is anything to do with any of that.

thesecoloursdontrun ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:37:23 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The Wasp is the MCUโ€™s first female titular character. Canโ€™t deny that.

SonofSanguinius87 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:40:00 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sure but the way it's being brought up in press interviews it's acting like it's the first women actress to take part in a Marvel movie. It seems awfully dismissive to just handwave away every other woman who's been in the movies before, honestly.

thesecoloursdontrun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think theyโ€™re acting like itโ€™s the first titular woman in an MCU film which has been all males for ten years. These are questions the press are asking, itโ€™s not like sheโ€™s just spouting out about it. The press know there are other female heroes, but how many in the MCU have been titular and one of the last OG avengers to finally hit the big screen?

Howโ€™d you feel when Wonder Woman came out?

SonofSanguinius87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:00:02 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wasn't too hyped about Wonder Woman but in general I'm not a big fan of DC anyway. It was an alright movie but the ending fell a bit flat for me. Ancient Greek gods having a little English nobility mustache made me laugh a bit.

Anyway, I understand that the Wasp is an OG avenger, and that it's the first titular woman for a Marvel movie but are we just going to pretend like because the movie isn't named after them the other female characters are just not there? Black Widow has been in the MCU for ages, including the Avengers. It's hard to argue she's not a main character considering she's part of the Avengers, in the Avengers movie. We also have "side" characters (Which in my opinion are more like main characters bar a few) like Valkyrie, Gamora, Jane Foster (Although I won't hold it against anyone for not wanting to remember this bit.) Scarlet Witch, Peggy carter etc.

They're no less important than any of the male characters, even if their name isn't on the title. Is Vision not a main member of the Avengers just because he hasn't got a solo movie? Hawkeye too? Nick Fury? This isn't some movie with a main lead and everyone else is just a small character and that's it, we're working with a bunch of movies which tell different stories with hundreds of characters.

thesecoloursdontrun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:06:41 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When I asked about wonder women I meant howโ€™d you feel about the press then? Not the film itself. And yes all those characters are avengers, however none have gotten films. If it were black widow Scarlett Johansson would be getting the same exact questions dude. Same as if falcon got a movie before black panther about being the first African American hero to be a titular character. You are undermining the real point but claiming all the other female heroes are forgotten and stuff. Theyโ€™re not, Theyโ€™re still there and respected. Itโ€™s just the wasp got that titular credit first. Yeah it couldโ€™ve been any other female hero like BW or even SW, but it what TW. A lot of Ws. Either way, I think youโ€™re a little more upset than you should be at this is all.

SonofSanguinius87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not upset in the slightest, as I said in my main comment I'm bored of it. I'm bored of the press ignoring the fact that yes, there are other women in the MCU. The comments that I've seen haven't been anything to do with her being the titular character, but "Some people still don't get that women can be powerful too, and be powerful characters."

This to me, is forgetting the rest of the women in the MCU and is pretty gross honestly. It wouldn't be the same with Falcon being the first African American hero because there's been other Female characters already. She isn't the first character, she's the first titular one.

Also, Black Panther was the first African American MCU superhero to get a titular film. I don't recall seeing many questions focused on that, honestly.

The entire press run for this movie has consisted mostly, at least from the articles I've seen, as; The male characters have been complaining about their costumes (Silly men!) being uncomfortable. Women CAN be powerful superheroes too! (Ignoring that I don't think many people interested in the MCU think otherwise) and stuff about the main poster (With the "Male and Female" stereotyped poses being reversed.)

Bar the idea of women being superheroes, I'm not sure what any of this has to do with the actual film itself. Why is the focus on this movie more to do with things surrounding the movie rather than the movie itself.

And what press am I supposed to be remembering for Wonder Woman? I don't recall anything particularly that stood out to me but I didn't pay much attention to it either. I recall Patty Jenkins being praised for being a women director which is nice but I didn't look at much about it really.

I'm not undermining the main point, I believe that the emphasis on "Titular characters" is completely overrated. Is a comic book less interesting because it has Spiderman on the cover rather than Black Cat, even if she's involved heavily in the storyline too? I don't believe it is. So why is it that Female characters are less interesting unless their name is in the title of the movie too? Is GOTG and the Avengers, both being names of the group, not another example of Women being in main roles? Both Gamora and Black Widow, and to some extent Nebula and Scarlet Witch are all main characters but because they're not in the name, it doesn't count?

If the thing that makes this particularly special is because of the character name being in the title of the film then I think it's a bit weak, personally.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say that this isn't impressive that it's the first titular female character and stuff, but at the same time I just don't like the press run for this movie. I don't even hold it against both Evangeline Lilly, or the movie itself, I've just grown quite bored hearing the same things being repeated in news articles and stuff. Maybe I've just seen quotes taken out of context or something but I'm not sure.

I'm more annoyed that apparently my comment makes me a trump supporter lol. Who knew that a press release could inspire angry PM's from people.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:36:13 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh boy, someone let the Trump supporter come down off their opioid addiction long enough for him to start bitching about white male oppression!

SonofSanguinius87 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:18:22 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol what.

What makes you think I'm a Trump supporter? And where the fuck am I talking about white male oppression either?

Jesus Christ dude, talk about reading into something that isn't there.

I'm sick of hearing about the male actors being babies for saying their costumes are uncomfortable because yeah, no shit they'd be uncomfortable, just because they're getting paid a lot doesn't mean they can't complain about the problems they have. Calling them babies because they complained about something is just rude and unnecessary. Would you call a woman a baby for complaining her feet hurt if she's wearing heels?

Of course not, at least not if you aren't an asshole. People are allowed to have things that upset them.

But hey sure, pretend I'm some sexist trumpet and jerk yourself off.

Not that you'll be interested but if you want to know how I lean politically, I'm a socialist. Wild right?

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:29:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for this. You made my job easier.

SonofSanguinius87 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:31:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What are you actually talking about anymore dude? Seriously.

Where exactly am I complaining about how white males are oppressed? Point it out anywhere In my comment for me, maybe I'm missing something with my non fucked up worldview.

Did I offend you by saying I disliked something your favorite celebrity said or something?

EDIT: After having a look through your comment history, why are you so happy to accuse people of having opiate addictions? You seem like a real piece of work. Seek help dude, legitimately you shouldn't take so much pleasure in other people's misfortune. Seriously.

SomeSkinnyWhiteBoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Leave it to the brain dead to bring Trump into movie discussion lol you sad fucks are obsessed.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:11 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This one is too easy.

SomeSkinnyWhiteBoy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:33:21 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's really funny how this kind of labelling is supposed to show you have moral superiority while all it does is show how much of a child you are lol

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But I do. Thatโ€™s the point.

SomeSkinnyWhiteBoy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:41:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for proving my point buddy

pickproductions ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 05:10:14 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seeing this tomorrow night, but hereโ€™s my prediction for the post-credits scene:

Ant-Man and Hawkeye are having a barbecue. All of their friends and families are there, enjoying themselves...when suddenly, Michael Peรฑa feels a chill run down his spine. โ€œMr. Pym...I donโ€™t feel so good.โ€

One by one, everyone in attendance starts to disappear. Scottโ€™s daughter...Clintโ€™s wife...Hank and Hope and Janet...until Ant-Man and Hawkeye are the only ones left. Smash cut to title reveal for Avengers 4.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:15:25 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

pretty off

[deleted] ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 13:48:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Whatever_who_Cares ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:18:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They said Quantum a lot. What more do you need?

Matchavellian ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:02:52 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

laugh track

TheHoundThatRides ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:31:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So are you one of those people who considers himself an intellectual cuz of his taste in movies and not any actual personal achievements?

Eilindrene ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 02:16:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Was it me or did they turn to dust too fast in the end credit scene? In IW they took more than 3 seconds to turn to dust. Fury was able to run and get a pager and send a nessage, yet they couldn't recall Ant-Man?

harten66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t think they had any idea what was happening. So when it started they probably went into shock and then it was too late

aareyes12 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:19:52 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That stinger has me FUCKED up. There any hope that house arrest any comes to the rescue??

pizzainacup ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:37 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty good movie. But does this mean we wonโ€™t see ant man in infinity war 2? I want him to have his moment!

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:46 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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JoonasD6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:45:24 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Meaning? (I don't see connection to assumed Ned Flanders.)

IbeatJimLee ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:23 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They shouldve thrown in the Scarlet Beetle instead the hohum rescue/heist stuff.

RealAnonymousCaptain ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 12:37:35 on July 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

0p0

corvodaud ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 22:07:52 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just saw this movie today,watching this movie I felt something was off,because the only interesting thing is the mid-credit scene. This movie felt like a corporate mandated filler that the studio had to churn out,and that is a problem since Marvel are very good in hiding their formulaic movies that you don't notice it until you pay close attention,at this point they got it down to a science,something other studios struggle to emulate( See DC).But in this movie I could tell that it is written by many writers,I could that something was left in the cutting floor, I could tell that Walter Goggin was unnecessary addition to the movie(he was better in Tomb raider),and I agree with other that he was in the movie to provide goons and car chase.Aaargh! The car chase,I love a well executed car chase,but this time it felt like " Let's just throw in a car chase in there, kids love those". Also what A waste of a cool villain played by the "the other Sofia Boutella",her custom was cool and I loved it but I am tired of the tortured soul villain but not a bad guy actually a good guy. Also since audience loved the Michael Pena explaining bit in the first movie they do it again in this movie but it's not as funny.Also the jokes didnt land example the truth serum joke I thought it was stretch to thin. There were moment in this movie which were cool, ghost fight with ๐Ÿœ Man and Wasp. Funny jokes like " am the youth pastor". I didn't hate this movie it was just a letdown. If anyone skips this movie they won't be missing much.

araiman21 ยท -31 points ยท Posted at 17:11:40 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Classic mess of an Ant Man Movie. Terrible plotting with a handful of really awesome action and hilarious moments. Michael Pena stealing the show as always. Iโ€™d watch a whole movie of him recapping events.

astrnght_mike_dexter ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't understand why this is downvoted. The script is a big mess. The movie is about finding Hank's wife in the shadow realm and 90% of the movie has nothing to do with that. And the two antagonists have super weak reasoning for even opposing the heroes. Random things kept happening that prolonged the action for no reason other than to stuff the movie. But I guess you're only allowed to say positive things in this thread.

BaconALaCarte ยท -20 points ยท Posted at 07:02:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So am I going to be the only one to say it? The first post-credits scene was underwhelming.

Martel732 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:10:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know it seems like it will be a pretty important lead into Avengers 4. Janet causally dropping "watch out for time vortexes" is almost certain to play a role coming up. Finding an freeing Scott from the Quantum Realm is probably going to be a plot point in Avengers 4.

[deleted] ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 04:57:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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FreshPancakesBacon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:43:20 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

good one.

zakkalaska ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:05:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ok

Grant-Grant ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:28:52 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cool story bro

[deleted] ยท -26 points ยท Posted at 22:44:20 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Alertcircuit ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:19:31 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

People will go to these all day and night because they're pretty fun and competently made, which is more than I can say about literally any other cinematic universe attempt.

HanzoSteel ยท -50 points ยท Posted at 14:32:26 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
  1. Captain America: Civil War

  2. Avengers: Infinity War

  3. Avengers: Age of Ultron

  4. The Avengers

  5. Captain America: The Winter Soldier

  6. Iron Man Three

  7. Doctor Strange

  8. Ant-Man and the Wasp

  9. Ant-Man

  10. Thor: The Dark World

  11. The Incredible Hulk

  12. Spider-Man: Homecoming

  13. Black Panther

  14. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

  15. Guardians of the Galaxy

  16. Iron Man

  17. Thor

  18. Thor: Ragnarok

  19. Captain America: The First Avengers

  20. Iron Man 2

ethicalhamjimmies ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 15:37:22 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is one of the worst lists Iโ€™ve ever seen

HanzoSteel ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:41:56 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think you meant "most unique lists". Nothing wrong with having different tastes than everyone else.

ethicalhamjimmies ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:42:52 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t mean that at all, this list is straight up wrong

HanzoSteel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:48:07 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

McB43 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:35:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Go walk into oncoming traffic

McB43 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:12 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is one of the worst comments I've ever seen. All film is subjective you idiot.

ethicalhamjimmies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:09 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Opinions are subjective, but this opinion is objectively wrong

mattmurdock11 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 14:38:08 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Im a simple man when i see Ragnarok near bottom and age of ultron near top, i downvote.

HanzoSteel ยท -21 points ยท Posted at 14:40:21 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ultron is a great film and Ragnarok's tendency to choose comedy over drama is a problem!

amanindra ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:54:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ultron didn't chose comedy over drama ?

HanzoSteel ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:37 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Age of Ultron never had comedy at the expense of the drama. Ultron's banter never undercut the tensions of a scene.

99213 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:23 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Uh... To each his own, but in my opinion, Ultron's jokeyness (which sure storywise he got from Stark) made him a freaking joke and far less intimidating than he should have been, so yeah I'd say they had comedy at the expense of drama.

Spongemage ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:49:23 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Youโ€™re entitled to your opinions.

But please be aware that they are wrong.

Dragon_yum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:36:15 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ok.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:39 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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the_digital_man ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah

gregandsteve ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 05:10:42 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Does anyone feel like it looked really bad? Marvel movies have always had the issue of looking incredibly grey and boring but the coloring on this movie was bad even for Marvel's already low standards. Only passable parts imo were Hank Pym preparing to go into the quantum realm and the quantum realm itself. Beside that it was good enough I enjoyed most of the rest.

sexysausage ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:05:01 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Your theatre must be saving money on the projector light bulbs because it was a very colourful movie where I saw it. And I watched it in 3D, that usually takes a lot of brightness out.

Sleeze_ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:19:54 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Uh, what? DC movies are famously grey and dark. Marvel movies are FULL of color, famously so.

gregandsteve ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I meant coloring as in color grading. Marvel movies are as dull as it gets when you're looking at color grading. Movies can still be colorful and incredibly dull looking, the only Marvel movies (imo) that look truly vibrant are the Guardians movies and Thor 3.

E: https://youtu.be/hpWYtXtmEFQ

This video recaps what I mean

here_for_news1 ยท -25 points ยท Posted at 15:42:56 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well the cracks are showing, this movie had so many fridge logic moments I lost count, not the least being no one apparently being aware of the alien invasion going on.

Max2tehPower ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:35:49 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tbf, the alien invasion in New York was maybe a couple of hours and then they disappear. If you see IW, the scene in Scotland with Wanda and Vision, they are out and about like if nothing had happened and only find out about what happened until they see the news report at the kebab shop. And as for the events at Wakanda, we still don't know the extent of them opening their borders, so most people may still not know about them. An example would be when countries like East Timor or Kosovo gaining independence and Americans not paying attention because they are a "literally who" country.

here_for_news1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude if aliens showed up in East Timor tomorrow and the world's mightiest heroes had all gathered there to fight, it's going to get attention.

Max2tehPower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

probably, but by the time this alien invasion gets media coverage, the snap occurs and suddenly you get a completely different problem at hand than aliens.

OdoisMyHero ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:45:08 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The action was pretty fucking non stop and the aliens were on the other end of the fucking continent. They had more pressing concerns like getting chased by two sets of bad guys AND the FBI.

here_for_news1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:47:44 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm more thinking about the end when they are doing the testing and the snap happens, they've been good for long enough to build a mini tunnel, they would be aware of aliens.

navjot94 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:31:32 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Would they be? They're in San Francisco, so unless they were watching the news, they would be oblivious. The most they would know is that there was an incident in New York a few days ago. They seemed pretty wrapped up in their work. Also Hank and Hope are on the run, so they wouldn't be able to contribute much.

SanityPills ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:48:36 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not to mention the alien invasion is happening in a country that is literally hidden from the rest of the world. It would be like for us if Atlantis was real, and there was an alien invasion going on there. How the hell would we ever know?

here_for_news1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:46 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I sort of agree, I just feel like if aliens showed up in a legit ship from outer space, that's going to be all that is on the news, and people are going to be in the streets about it, like you would literally have to live under a rock to miss out and even then it's close.

navjot94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:15 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But this is the mcu, aliens showing up isn't that new. And the battle lasted half an hour at most, by the time they would've heard about it would have been over.

Altephor1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:28:13 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Probably because there is no alien invasion going on.

here_for_news1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:05 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Except New York and wakanda

Altephor1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:48 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Except no.

here_for_news1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:00 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Except yes, the snap happens at the end of the invasion of wakanda, saying no doesn't make that not true.

Altephor1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:40 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Great, that doesn't happen at any point during the movie. But ok.

here_for_news1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:30 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's almost like there's multiple movies happening at the same time because it's a cinematic universe

Altephor1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:26 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And it's almost like Infinity War wasn't happening during this movie, because it wasn't.

here_for_news1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:43 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You know, except it definitely was happening during the post-credits scene, where the snap happens, that thing that happens near the end of Infinity War.

Altephor1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:27 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If a 30 second teaser scene in the credits ruined the movie for you, maybe you should step back a bit.

here_for_news1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:17 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I never said it did, I said it was one example of a number of things that made the movie not-so-great. I'm glad you have to resort to distorting what I said so heavily to defend yourself.

danstu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:26 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, we don't know how much time passed between the end of the main story and the snap. Scenes like Hank and Janet setting up the house on the beach side at the end implies there was a pretty decent amount of time covered between the end of the main conflict and the post credits. The story could have happened a week or two before IW. It's still a bit of a gap, but a bit smaller if you assume there was some time between.

kirkthecandykid ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:08:33 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

x****

taylorswiftfan123 ยท -21 points ยท Posted at 00:52:05 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That first post-credits scene should have just been in the first twenty minutes of Avengers 4, and I'm wondering if it's literally just lifted from that movie. It's pretty jarring tonally, makes no sense if you haven't seen Infinity War, and is pretty key information for Avengers 4. Its good fan service, but negatively impacts the film as a whole. We go from that upbeat moment at the drive in to "by the way everyones dead".

myusernamestaken ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:16:54 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

makes no sense if you haven't seen Infinity War

  1. It's a mid-credit scene, not a part of the actual story (you get what I mean), so it doesn't affect the main story much.

  2. I'm pretty sure even the most ignorant of movie-goers understands all marvel films are connected... I mean we're 20 movies in after 10 years, I don't think it's the studios fault for including something that requires basic knowledge of the occurrences in its biggest ever film. And each Marvel franchise is a sequel/prequel to each other film, so it's not like Marvel referencing a previous film is something they've never done before.

taylorswiftfan123 ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 01:36:55 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

so it doesn't affect the main story much.

That's not the point. It makes you leave the movie with a polar opposite emotion than the actual movie left you with, and accomplishes nothing other than fan service.

it's not like Marvel referencing a previous film is something they've never done before.

It's not a reference though. Most other Marvel movies you can follow without having seen the others. You may miss small references or beats that pay off, but the plot mechanics still all work. They tacked on killing three main characters and our main character being horrified and trapped in the quantum realm as basically the last scene in a comedy movie. It's weird and jarring.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:37:31 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was listening to a podcast recapping IW, and they made a really good point: at this point in the MCU, the people coming to watch the movies are the ones that have followed story lines from pretty early on - not very many newbies are going to be jumping in at IW, because they don't really have any motivation to: they don't know the characters and their stories, they have no idea what's going on.

Marvel made IW for the fans that have followed the stories, the characters, the motives, the plots, not for people jumping on the bandwagon because it's what every one else is doing. IW shouldn't need to pack in the entire backstory of the Infinity Stones and of every single character that appears in it because Marvel has already done the heavy lifting: IW is the payoff of ten years of hard work, it's the ultimatum for the people that care about what this franchise has put massive pains into building, not just "another movie" to watch because nothing else looks good.

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:59:59 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

makes no sense if you haven't seen Infinity War

Welcome to the MCU. These aren't movies anymore, they're episodes. For good and ill.

But anyway, who's seeing this movie who hasn't seen IW? I suppose these people exist, but I imagine they're also the same people who get up to leave as soon as the credits start, so they miss the scene anyway.

Bomber131313 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:03:18 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"by the way everyones dead".

Only half.

bjacks12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:39 on July 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Perfectly balanced

[deleted] ยท -42 points ยท Posted at 13:06:35 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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SnukeMaster21 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 13:21:50 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m a โ€œtrumptardโ€ and I thought Michael Penaโ€™s character is one of the funniest in the entire MCU

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:32:15 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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PacmanBirdFlu ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 14:49:42 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

nah, he's literally only done good for the country, but hey keep hating because your favorite celebs are upset. Maybe when the world is run like a democratic hellhole like shitcago, you'll get the idea

relevantmeemayhere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:04 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Like inflating the deficit? How about lying everyday when it comes to the economy, crime, science, immigration, or the numerious investugations into his inner circle (or just acting like a 13 year old) ? How about encouraging violence against reporters and people who donโ€™t say nice things about him? Or hurting our relationships with allies and damaging our trade relationships? Or profiteering of the presidency and using it for his and his buddiesโ€™ personal enrichment? Or using the office of the presidency as a bully pulpit against companies who canโ€™t do their business because of his policies?

Maybe when you guys have a basic grasp of reality and use evidence instead of your feelings and youโ€™ll get the idea. But hey-not counting on red states to lead the pack in anything unless itโ€™s obesity, domestic violence (or just anything related to violence really), lack of education, poverty etc.

You guys only like him because youโ€™re beta as hell and he tells you youโ€™re alpha. Damn those elitists that actually went to school and specialize in their fields, youโ€™re barely literate self is just as special!

TheOneOzymandias ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:41:12 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck u racist

Nightshire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How is he racist

saltshiner ยท -39 points ยท Posted at 16:27:22 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i'm just gonna say it. i'm sick of girl villains. it's becoming too much

CallMeMoo ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:36:15 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Imagine being this dumb

saltshiner ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 17:26:03 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well i guess if a random person i dont know on the internet calls me dumb it must be true

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:54:54 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Multiple people can confirm this now after all of the garbage you've written today.

saltshiner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:25 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

so if multiple random people on the internet decide something then it must be true. Kelly Marie Tran must be really happy right now.

ilikehockeyandguitar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:41:31 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What the fuck does Kelly Marie Tran have to do with any of this?

CallMeMoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:55:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because it's a stupid asinine point. It's not even a point. It's the equivalent of complaining there's too many "colored people" in your movie. Like, it's genuinely the fart of comments.

saltshiner ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:46 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

or saying there's too many white people in the movie?

CallMeMoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:35 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The heroes in your movie are all fucking white.

saltshiner ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

now you have a problem with too many white people in one spot? Does the thought of white people enjoying their lives for themselves offend you? Does white people have to live solely as a prop for minorities to thrive? Sir are you a bigot of some kind?

TheHoundThatRides ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:35:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Out of 20 films this is the second time we've had a main female villain.....

And I don't see how making her a man would have affected anything?

saltshiner ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 17:25:16 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

im sure you wouldn't

TheHoundThatRides ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'll take a guess at your favorite song

CaptainClumsy04 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:41:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Weโ€™ve only had Hela last year and Ghost this year... how are you โ€œsickโ€ of them.

saltshiner ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:27:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Incredibles 2, Enfys Nest technically was a villain even with the switcharoo, Captain Phasma, Guardians of the galaxy 2,

WanderToWhere ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:39:46 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The primary villain of GOTG2 was EGO and the rest of the Ravegers that didn't follow Yondu.

The golden chick was not even a villain, she was just a really sore loser who was (justifiably) mad that someone stole something that was right fully hers.

Which most people would be. She's an antagonist as well.

asmodeus01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:49 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

GOTG2?

saltshiner ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:48:29 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sexy Elizabeth Debecki who has the sexy neck and is like 6ft tall in real life and my celebrity crush. I wanna sticki my dicki in Elizabeth Debecki

chunkybuttflake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:51 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hahaha wtf

asmodeus01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:37 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't consider her the villian in that movie, she was a minor plot device

CaptainClumsy04 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:30 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When did a Marvel movie thread turn into a bunch of random movies. And Guardians of the Galaxy 2? Ego is female now?

WanderToWhere ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:49:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She's not really even the villain, more like just an antagonist. Burch and his group would be the true "villains" of the movie.

saltshiner ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:11 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

men are always the irredeemable villain. Women are the ones you can save but still villains

WanderToWhere ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:36:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

???

Loki, Yondu, (to some extent) Killmonger, Quicksilver, Bucky, etc all had an antagonist to villain role. They all have been redeemed or were deemed redeemable.

There are innumerable examples even outside of the MCU of reedemable male characters.

chunkybuttflake ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:41:38 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Uh Hela would like a word

ilikehockeyandguitar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:39:53 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So....Hela and Ghost and that's it? Yeah, logic totally checks out there /s

carolinemathildes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:06 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

because why?

WorkAllDayOnly1Money ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:49 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How many guy villains have there been?

A lot

[deleted] ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 19:22:31 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How does one get Botox injections and makeup from in the quantum realm? How did she clean he clothes, bathe, and take care of her teeth?

TheHoundThatRides ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:24:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

She didn't get sun damage on her skin so it's gonna look good. And there was a city seen in the Quantum Realm scenes. It's possible she got resources in such places.

[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 20:04:32 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What city? Built and inhabited by what? What are you talking about with the sun? Clothes, skin, and teeth still get dirty without the sun. Her lips obviously had Botox injections. You could see the plastic like unnatural look they had. What the fuck did she eat and drink all this time?!

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:16:51 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There is a city in the BG when Hank and Michelle are leaving the quantum verse.

Nydas ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:19:33 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I KNEW i saw a city! Thought i was going crazy. It was while they were taking off and there was a domed city in the background, right?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:26:49 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's what I saw.

TheHoundThatRides ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:38:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We don't know anything about her stay in the realm yet. But we know that there was a city seen in the background of one of the Quantum Realm scenes. So it is possible she had access to resources in such places.

CamelToad88 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:33:40 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You must be fun at parties. Or any other basic human interaction.

Duspinatra ยท -50 points ยท Posted at 04:48:38 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

TT: Sad paid off shills.

Lol this movie was garbage, the villains were dog shit, the plot was dog shit and the action was sub par.

Azozel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:07:52 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did someone piss off the side of your bridge?

ccable827 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:30:53 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not to be one to say "your opinion is wrong" but... Unless you're intentionally trolling, the majority critical and audience consensus is that it was pretty damn good. Maybe you're just cynical? I def can be at times

deathsquaddesign ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:09 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No one is getting paid to like this movie. Get a grip.

saltshiner ยท -47 points ยท Posted at 04:30:08 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Another movie that falls flat because they refuse to do anything with a male lead except let him be the prop for the character they really wanted the movie to be about. Wasp.

Give AntMan some god damn agency for christ sake. I hate marvels demasculation of their lead characters lately. they have every right to be the hero in their own movie

aresef ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:33:15 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s literally Ant-Man and The Wasp. God fucking forbid Hope gets something to do. And itโ€™s not like Scott didnโ€™t get any focus. He kept having to work to avoid arrest by the FBI, whose agents donโ€™t seem to investigate further than welp Scottโ€™s home, our job is done.

saltshiner ยท -24 points ยท Posted at 04:37:24 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

fine then i dare you to personally claim AntMan is the best hero in the marvel universe. If you are so quick to defend what they did with him. Then say without lying Antman was the best he could be and you now consider him an A level talent in the Marvelverse. Say that and actually put your money where your mouth is. Say you personally are invested in hisc character and would fight anyone who said he was bad.

aresef ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:38:36 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why are you so worked up about this? Huge Paul Rudd stan?

saltshiner ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 04:43:14 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because I'm a nerd, unlike most Marvel movie fans

aresef ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:48:54 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
saltshiner ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:11:31 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yep. Post me on there I want my comment to get more traction anyway. you have my permission

YezzusChrist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:28:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

snowflake alert

saltshiner ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 06:34:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

im not white. don't be racist

YezzusChrist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
saltshiner ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:38 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
The_Resurgam ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:49:00 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Or a bad troll? Seriously bud, chill out...

saltshiner ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

don't approach my passion as a negative you hollow....blah. You want a movie for accountants then this is your movie. You want a good comic book movie this aint it

The_Resurgam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:18:05 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A movie that uses comic books as its source material doesn't have to be for comic fans or "nerds."

saltshiner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:13 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Movies like Solo prove yes it does.

StrongBad_IsMad ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:48:12 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Uh, nerd alert.... the fandom doesnโ€™t belong to just you. Get over yourself.

saltshiner ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 05:11:04 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

sounds like something someone who doesnt' spend a lot of time in the fandom would say

YezzusChrist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:16:01 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

lol this guy has to be trolling.

StrongBad_IsMad ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:14:17 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So am I not allowed to be a fan because I havenโ€™t invested as much time into this as you?

Cigaroot ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:41:09 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If only there was another superhero movie with a strong male lead, where female characters are simply relegated to holding a clipboard or doing some vague โ€œscienceโ€ while the male hero kicks ass and mugs for the camera. If. Only.

Or instead, we could have some variety in our superheroes. Maybe have one with some flaws, one who isnโ€™t propelled by ego or honor or vengeance, but one whoโ€™s propelled by trying to simply make his daughter proud.

I think youโ€™re seeing more strong female characters because 1) half the population is one, 2) those stories can make a lot of money and 3) it gives the story more variety.

Then again, if thatโ€™s not your kind of movie, thereโ€™s always Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Batman, Superman, Deadpool and the upcoming Aquaman.

StrongBad_IsMad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:57:45 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not sure if you meant to put this in reply to my comment vs. saltshiner up there...

I totally agree with you. I prefer my characters to have a bit more variety, and I actually really like the Antman character. He's not just about saving the world. In fact, he just wants to be a good dad. What's wrong with that?

harrison951027 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:05:50 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And that is objectively a bad thing? Dude come on

saltshiner ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 05:10:38 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

it's not a bad thing if you tell me right now that antman as a character was the best character in the MCU to date and you aren't just jumping on the fact it's a marvel movie. I don't want to hear "yeah he was solid i like Paul Rudd" I want to here "holy shit paul rudd deserves to be the leader of the new Avengers cause he was amazing" granted i don't want him to be leader but tell me right now this was an amazing antman movie. Tell me this was something more than a 6.5/10 not bad not great movie and character

harrison951027 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:23:41 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So what your saying is that if Antman isnโ€™t the best character in all the Marvel Universe then he had to be a useless foil to Hope in this movie and have absolutely nothing to do in it? Like thereโ€™s a middle ground. I liked him in this movie, and i liked his connection with his daughter and dealing with the law instead of just blowing up his problems. Those parts of the movie with his more goofy attitude (as opposed to the serious Cap or Dr. Strange types and witty Stark types) was what made him a unique character.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:58 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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harrison951027 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:31:27 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why were you standards that Antman should be the best marvel character in the whole Cinematic Universe? If he is done better then Cap or Tony then wouldnโ€™t you say they are doing something wrong with those characters, you know the original avengers in this universe? But yeah to answer your question I did think he stood out. He was funny and likeable and someone who you could empathize with and root for. I laughed at his magic trick humor with the FBI agent and i felt for his relationship with his daughter. He did good.

YezzusChrist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:21:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

okay but Incredibles 2 was a really good Disney movie.

YezzusChrist ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:19:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

oh I get it now. You were bullied and now you hate females because of the constant rejection. Also being a "nerd" doesn't mean anything. Most people are "nerdy" You were a asshole growing up that's why you didn't have friends.

saltshiner ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think you being bullied would be the better answer which is why you hate seeing strong confident men. Seeing strong females is less triggering for you because you don't have to see the chads on screen who send you into a PTSD state from when they gave you wedgies

YezzusChrist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:47:06 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Where did I ever say I hate "strong confident men"

saltshiner ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:05:01 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Same place where i said the stuff you accused me of saying

WorkAllDayOnly1Money ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:41:44 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude nobody cares

saltshiner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:21 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

that's a good critic of this movie as well

TheMrShadySlim ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:59:33 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

aint that the truth. Go back to incels and go back to your sad corner. Just know you will always be inferior to chad.

gamerholic ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 04:37:19 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think you're confusing this with the new Star Wars.. They are def doing that with that universe

saltshiner ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 04:42:56 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

it's everywhere lately. The girl is always smarter, more determined, more focused, physically stronger and better trained than the guy. All the guy does is show up on screen and make it seem like he's only the lead because he's a guy and they need a male name. Give him some freaking complexity and grit

YezzusChrist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:46 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

lol dude your never going to be happy

saltshiner ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:07 on July 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Cobra Kai made me happy

YugoslavLovemachine ยท -36 points ยท Posted at 05:12:56 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Recently, I graduated high school. And, of course, Iโ€™ve met and have become close friends with many different people within that span of 4 years. For complex reasons that I wont bother disclosing here in a review for some stupid superhero movie, getting the chance to see those close friends of mine at this time is not very easy. But we managed to set aside this day to hang out, and we went to see Ant-Man and The Wasp. Being with these people makes me happy, and we joked and laughed together while watching the movie and it all felt bittersweet because, although I was having a pretty good time, I didnโ€™t know when I was ever going to hang out with that group of people again. It kinda helped that we were all nerds, since it was pretty fun arguing about the movie after the end credit scenes that come inherently with every Marvel film. We walked out, still arguing and joking over movies and pop culture, we ate ice cream, walked around the stores surroundinng the theater, it was nice. You see, maybe in a few months from now, I might still be able to remember this day. The specific movie we watched, however, Iโ€™m currently having trouble writing this review due to how quickly it fled my mind as soon as I got back and walked through my front door. And this may or may not have something to do with why Iโ€™m stalling you with this paragraph as Iโ€™m trying to remember something worth talking about in this movie.

Ant-Man and The Wasp is the 20th film in the Marvel cinematic universe mega franchise, and a sequel to the 2015 film Ant-Man. I surprisingly enough, enjoyed te first Ant-Man MCU film very much, and I remember it as one of the funner times Iโ€™ve had in the theater with a group of friends. I say surprisingly because later on when I started to develop an interest in writing and art criticism, I was surprised to see how many people HATED the movie. I on the other hand thought it was an awesome smaller scale heist/adventure action-comedy. As much as I enjoyed the first film, I REALLY did not want this sequel to me made. I wanted this film even less than I wanted the unnecessary Solo: A Star Wars Story. It would be an obvious and effortless cash-grab. And due to the fact that it takes place before the events of Marvelโ€™s previous movie, Avengers: Infinity War, thereโ€™s nothing that could have happened in this movie that could have ever affected the future of the MCU series. That would have been the saving grace, that would have given me more of a reason to go out and see this movie as soon as I could. But I didnโ€™t. I would typically watch new releases on a Thursday, but this time I simply didnโ€™t feel like it. And I donโ€™t regret it. The only two reasons I went to see this movie is because I feel like I have an obligation to see every superhero movie that comes out, and because I needed a movie to see with my friends. Ant-Man and The Wasp is about our main protagonist, Scott Lang, helping out some uneasy allies to save someone...out of some weird quantum dimension...and then try really hard not getting killed by some antagonist...I think. Ant-Man and The Wasp is easily the most forgettable movie in the entire 20-film-long run of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Alright lets get a few positives out of the way. Sure, maybe a few action scenes here and there were a bit entertaining, there was a decent amount of creativity to the whole shrinking and growing mechanic in action scenes. But the main positive standout for me was how much I laughed during the movie. I laughed quite a bit actually. I actually feel comfortable classifying this film as a comedy, among some other adjectives. If there is a reason to see this film at all other than being a Marvel completionist, its the comedy within the second and third act. There werenโ€™t many audience members there watching the movie with us, but some puns and one liners caused a laugh that would sound like it came from a crowded auditorium. I have to admit that I had a couple hardy belly laughes myself. The comedic nature of the first film carried onto the second film very well. Scott Langs sidekicks, played by Michael Peรฑa, David Dastmalchian, and T.I, would steal the show whenever they were on screen. Every character in this movie was brimming with charisma and likability, and I couldnโ€™t help but have a smile throughout many parts of this movie. My smiles, however, were hollow. And sometimes the comedy could get to be a little too much, especially when coming from anywhere that wasnโ€™t Michael Peรฑaโ€™s, Dastmalchianโ€™s. and T.Iโ€™s characters.

The first act was quintessentially mediocre. The humor was frankly the opposite of clever. Any bit of emotional weight that could have possibly been developed was tampered down by continuous jokes. They were jokes that were at times quite hilarious, but detrimental to my investment in the story nonetheless. And when they werenโ€™t funny, when they were just shoehorned in and felt like they were thought up of in a matter of seconds, it made the movie a lot less enjoyable. Fortunately that didnโ€™t happen much. But Iโ€™m only talking about the comedy, what about the story? The story felty like it came out of an episode of a CW superhero show, like The Flash or Supergirl. Theyโ€™re suitable for those disposable and cheap superhero shows on cable television, but not for a $162,000,000 budget wide-release Marvel blockbuster. The villain in this film had lackluster writing, easily one of the more forgettable marvel villains, which is a problem that Marvel has been having for a while in a lot of their films. The story about saving a family member after being lost for thirty-something years had little to no emotional weight. And the movie was strangely littered with several little plot holes and inconsistencies. For example, when someone that has been living in a dimension where theyโ€™re smaller than an atom comes back to the real world, she comes back with a Jedi robe that she didnโ€™t have originally when she entered in the first place, and there is no sign of any rudimentary material to make any clothes out of. Or when our main character was told that he canโ€™t legally be in contact with a specific character while heโ€™s in house arrest, accepts his inconvenience, yet calls him anyways, and snaps his phone in half so that the movie can tell you that he took precaution from getting caught, yet the call still went through and can still easily be traced by the police if need be. And since they're seemingly tracking his every movement anyway, I guess the writers forgot that the police will probably be tracking calls from his own house too? I mean if the writers thought that through, I didn't see where they explaining how he DIDN'T get caught doing that, or how the person from that weird dimension just magically conjured up a Jedi robe out of thin air.

I didn't have a bad time though. Hell, I had a good time watching Rampage (2018) and that movie was pretty bad. Although it is completely forgettable, although it is dumb, although it does not do Hollywood's superhero fatigue any favors, it is still light-hearted and full of charisma. So while I never, ever want to see this movie ever again, nor can I think of any reason anybody would think it's interesting enough to see a second time, what it all comes down to is whether or not I enjoyed it, whether or not I think my experience was worth more than it took. Not whether I'm gonna enjoy it the second or third time, but my one time watching it in the theater. And in that one time, I think I did have a decent experience. If you don't have that same attitude in which you feel obliged to see every Marvel movie, then I can't recommended this movie to you. But if you are, then do yourself a favor and bring a few good old friends along. It might just make the movie for you.

I'm going to be giving this movie an

8/20

DoucheBatman ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:36:36 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You have too much to say

willyolio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:34:19 on July 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He's no Luis

YugoslavLovemachine ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 12:54:50 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I have a blog where I write extensive reviews. I kinda just copied and pasted what I had to say onto reddit

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:34 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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YugoslavLovemachine ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:32:05 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oki

[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 19:19:58 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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TheHoundThatRides ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:21:47 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

3 other people survived in the world because Hank, Janet, and Hope vanished. Half of this specific group wasn't necessarily going to survive just because we saw them together.

DinosaurGonads ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:57:19 on July 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude I swear to god..do people not understand what โ€œrandomโ€ means? Jesus yall need to go back to school or something.

benhur217 ยท -32 points ยท Posted at 01:35:58 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't mind a Marvel movie that's a bit silly, but I do mind if the movie can't take itself seriously at all. Especially if everything from Ghost's upcoming death, Lang's release date, the quantum tracker deadline, and the meeting thing for Scott's new business all happening at the same damn time. Walter Goggins' character was pointless. Michael Pena and his crew were just as dumb as the last movie. The best joke for me was a reference to Animal House which was actually pretty clever after I thought about it later on.

The whole movie sets up the Wasp and saves Janet Van Dyne only to kill them off via Infinity War which is mainly a fault on Marvel rather than the movie as a whole. Marvel had to release Infinity War in the early summer but it definitely hurt this movie. And the last post-credit scene was really fucking stupid. Although I am curious to see how Ant-Man is saved by Cap and friends next year. 5/10 Not a horrible time, but not worth seeing again in theaters.

CaptainLang ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:00:36 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The whole movie sets up the Wasp and saves Janet Van Dyne only to kill them off via Infinity War which is mainly a fault on Marvel rather than the movie as a whole

This highlights one of the many, many things wrong with Thanos' plan to eliminate half the life in the entire universe. You don't know who you're snapping out of the picture. I don't mean Janet Van Dyne as a loving mother recently reunited with her family. I mean her as a brilliant scientist that has a lot to offer the world. All of Dynes have great talents and - snap - they're just gone.

It's not a storytelling flaw. It's a flaw in a plan executed by a mad titan.

benhur217 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:35:12 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanos doesnโ€™t care, thatโ€™s the point. He just has a philosophy heโ€™s dedicated to. The fault is still on Marvel for a bit of poor planning and execution in this movie. Infinity War is fine as it is.

Bomber131313 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:43:35 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The fault is still on Marvel for a bit of poor planning and execution in this movie.

Why is that poor planning, Thanos snap effects everyone. Why not show the effects on Ant-Man and his crew?

benhur217 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:07 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So instead of moving forward, letโ€™s take some time to show what Ant-Man was up to right before that happened instead of the opposite.

timelordeverywhere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:41 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why not? Ant mans story is still as impactful and important regardless of whether they get snapped at the end or not. It actually makes it more powerful motivation for ant man in a4.

Bomber131313 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:13:59 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So instead of moving forward

Moving forward? You do know the events of Ant-Man and the Wasp came before Infinite War right?

CaptainLang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:29 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Infinity War was a good movie. I don't understand your problem with how it affects Ant-Man, though. This is a giant cinematic universe so of course it will play into the story somehow. Are you mad Janet Van Dyne disappeared? Cap lost his bestfriend after the snap and they were just reunited. No one was safe.

benhur217 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:58 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Imagine if Disney made a Star Wars spin-off that takes place right before TFA. It sets up characters and even has some get rescued. Happy ending, only the characters set up and saved died when Starkiller Base blows up the Republic. Same problem. Why should I care?

timelordeverywhere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:42 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

They didn't die. Everyone knows this. They will show up in the next ant man movie. To pretend that the are "dead" is stupid.

benhur217 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:17:24 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

At this moment theyโ€™re still dead.

timelordeverywhere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:33:00 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And? Also, probably aren't dead either. Most likely just transported to the soul world.

Bomber131313 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:41:29 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Walter Goggins' character was pointless

No he wasn't, he was there to prove henchman for Ant-Man and Wasp to fight, this is an action movie.

The whole movie sets up the Wasp and saves Janet Van Dyne only to kill them off via Infinity War which is mainly a fault on Marvel rather than the movie as a whole

Well first Wasp didn't save Janet Hank did, and it's not like they are actually gone for good.

benhur217 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:20 on July 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I never said Wasp saves Janet, I said the movie sets her up AND has Janet saved.