MrPMS · 1574 points · Posted at 05:26:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Pena should do all mission briefings in Marvel movies from now on.

Tom38 · 622 points · Posted at 06:08:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thor would have a field day listening to him.

arghnard · 544 points · Posted at 09:40:28 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I need to speak to this cousin of yours. Hail him!

TurnPunchKick · 121 points · Posted at 21:34:57 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yo, whose this white dude?

Oh, he like a god or something. Ay you a God right, holmes.

DatPiff916 · 29 points · Posted at 04:41:05 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Dope so your like Hova the god aka Jay Z matter fact do you know Jay Z because I got a cousin who gave me his mixtape and it's pretty cool because he does a fusion of hip hop and mariachi but without those annoying horn sounds that blast all over the place because they sound horrible when you are listening to them with sub-woofer speakers especially the JBL brand one it comes off as really high pitch...

proddy · -9 points · Posted at 11:24:16 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Heil!

spate42 · 35 points · Posted at 14:46:57 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Imagine Drax listening to him

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 06:21:01 on July 28, 2015 · (Permalink)

Drax too

Frankfusion · 3 points · Posted at 16:37:43 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was a Spider-Man reference at the end right?

MightyGreenPanda · 527 points · Posted at 13:25:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fuck, let's make him the new Coulson. I don't care if it's just a cameo, he needs to appear on every movie from now on. Then we'll get Marvel's Agents of Baskin Robbins and everyone will be happy.

orphenshadow · 41 points · Posted at 15:56:55 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ha,

On a more serious note, he would fit in pretty well in Agents of Shield, he could fill a similar role to Patton Oswalt.

MightyGreenPanda · 17 points · Posted at 16:01:45 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't really know how they could introduce him on AoS, but it would definetely work. I mean, Patton Oswald only appears like 2 or 3 times per season, but he's hilarious on every scene he appears on, so having Michael Peña on a similar role would be awesome.

Ninjaboi333 · 25 points · Posted at 17:25:53 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

One Punch Man

2ero · 6 points · Posted at 06:47:54 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

He will destroy Thanos.

MightyGreenPanda · 3 points · Posted at 17:29:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

lol I really hope that becomes a recurring joke, specially on bigger events like Civil War.

dwadley · 1 points · Posted at 23:37:43 on January 7, 2016 · (Permalink)

That's just squirrel girl's alias

2ero · 4 points · Posted at 06:47:33 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can you imagine T.I. as an Agent of Shield?

Version_1 · 21 points · Posted at 22:41:11 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

If Baskin Robbins is the end credit scene of Infinity War II I'll lose my head

chickenfinger303 · 5 points · Posted at 02:58:18 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Baskin Robbins is run by the watcher, mind=blown

checkandmated · 6 points · Posted at 02:16:52 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

That'd be perfect!.. cause "Baskin Robbins always finds out" bro

rentonwong · 4 points · Posted at 16:25:55 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

But Thanos will smoke him...if they follow the Coulson route.

MightyGreenPanda · 6 points · Posted at 16:28:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Bali is a magical place, man! You get all the free drinks you want and the girls are super hot!

[deleted] · 14 points · Posted at 00:21:36 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Season 5 of AoS focuses on Luis' quest to find out what really happens. Spoiler: Baskin Robin's has been behind the entire thing.

MightyGreenPanda · 7 points · Posted at 08:10:59 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

http://i.imgur.com/ItzHcJP.gif

xXGriffin300Xx · 29 points · Posted at 08:41:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That implies he would have to be brief.

Intensity_IV · 28 points · Posted at 20:54:09 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He should do voice overs of every character in the avengers

ContinuumGuy · 24 points · Posted at 19:04:25 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Okay, so some crazy raccoon come down from space with this tree, and I'm like, what the hell man, the Raccoon is talking, and then the raccoon is like 'there's this guy named Thanos and he's bad news...'"

ITGuyAZ · 8 points · Posted at 06:29:26 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

The parts where Michael Pena would do all the voice overs of all the actors as he elaborated on his stories actually had me grinning ear to ear. It was well done and freaking hilarious.

rentonwong · 6 points · Posted at 16:25:30 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes have him voice all missions on Marvel Future Fight, give colour commentary on Contest of Champions, and future Marvel Alliance games.

LittleInfidel · 7 points · Posted at 15:54:41 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

He was so damn cute.

I love that criminals got the spotlight as heroes. They really had no reason to help, but they chose to anyway. Sometimes going way, WAY above and beyond the call of duty. Dave(?) risked his neck jacking that cop car. That's ballsy as fuck.

I'm glad they didn't do the boring "criminals betray the main characters" crap.

Flatrock · 4 points · Posted at 03:46:23 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

He's signed up for three movies!

itstheshirt · 3 points · Posted at 13:01:04 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved the drunk history-esque scenes that accompanied his briefings too

orangedrink888 · 2 points · Posted at 21:23:34 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Put him in the system!

ShelfDiver · 2 points · Posted at 20:50:07 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

I need to see all the Avengers mouthing his words.

bluthscottgeorge · 1 points · Posted at 11:19:57 on November 9, 2015 · (Permalink)

Reminded me of Lock, Stock and Snatch, and Sexy Beast. Exactly the same way they usually explained about their heists.

mastyrwerk · 2178 points · Posted at 03:37:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anybody notice Luis' superpower?

He has a one punch knockout.

He said early on he was the only guy to knock out the guy in prison, and every time he punched somebody: instant knockout.

thaworldhaswarpedme · 579 points · Posted at 04:42:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Searched the thread for this before I asked. I wondered the same thing. He was laying everyone the fuck out!! Is that alluding to a character in the MCU?

mastyrwerk · 722 points · Posted at 05:12:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wouldn't be surprised if he was a character created by Wright. It's really clever writing where the trope of the one punch knockout is regulated to one character and established as a trait. One "powerless" character, that is.

This is something I noticed about the "human" heroes. Hawkeye "never" misses. Fury "always" has a secret up his sleeve. Widow can get "anybody" to talk. Coulson's just awesome.

These traits make them invaluable to the "powered" heroes without having "powers".

blacbear · 556 points · Posted at 09:45:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Onepunchman

ddac · 49 points · Posted at 21:11:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, 100 squats, and 10 kilometers per day.

cole1114 · 60 points · Posted at 10:58:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Caped baldy!

JimBobDuffMan · 50 points · Posted at 10:22:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Juanpunchman

untrustableskeptic · 16 points · Posted at 20:46:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really hope the show does the book justice.

HooMu · 13 points · Posted at 01:42:54 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

They have it somewhat easy. They don't even need a storyboard. The action scenes in the manga is drawn so well they can just trace over it and add the filler frames between each panel.

Shurtugil · 8 points · Posted at 00:08:58 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Saitama confirmed an Avenger.

Minifig81 · 4 points · Posted at 19:05:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Punchy Wombat.

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 04:29:15 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Now he just needs a robot sidekick that's an S class superhero.

Jezamiah · 2 points · Posted at 17:11:31 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Isn't that an anime coming soon?

Ninjaboi333 · 2 points · Posted at 17:24:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fall

7SevenEleven11 · 2 points · Posted at 19:35:36 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fisterman

letsgetcool · 1 points · Posted at 09:30:11 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Onebangman surely?

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:25:50 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Whose weakness is monologu'ing

ThePotatoKing · 1 points · Posted at 04:27:00 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yo wasn't my idea 'cus!

AM0_xD · 1 points · Posted at 14:48:38 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

K.O.

... Almost sounds like a villain.

paranoidbillionaire · 1 points · Posted at 18:34:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Singlehitdude

CrystlBluePersuasion · 6 points · Posted at 15:12:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Brad Pitt in Snatch?

'sfer me Ma

ActuallyMike · 1 points · Posted at 15:37:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ye like dags?

mastyrwerk · 3 points · Posted at 15:52:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

What's a dag?

EDIT: Oh. A dog.

briella819 · 19 points · Posted at 08:09:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well to be fair I'd scratch black widow off that list. If I'm not mistaken (which is possible as I was always more into xmen than the avengers as a kid )she has a Russian knockoff of Cap's super serum.

SToddB33 · 31 points · Posted at 08:48:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I believe you're mistaken. That may exist in the comics somewhere, as there are some strange ones out there, but in the MCU Black Widow is simply Natasha Romanoff who was taken into the program at a young age and trained to be an assassin.

Galactic · 3 points · Posted at 19:40:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

But in the MCU knockoffs of Cap's serum exists. Hell that's how the Hulk was created in the first place, trying to re-create the Super Serum. Emil Blonsky turned into the Abomination in The Incredible Hulk using too much of another version of the serum, and that's officially part of the MCU. And that's just Americans trying to make a new serum, who's to say the Russians haven't tried to make their own version?

Black Widow's past and abilities at this point in the MCU is still pretty murky, there's nothing that confirms nor denies that she has any superhuman abilities, but we know for a fact that the serum exists and people have been trying to re-create it. Logically, it makes sense to think it's possible the powerful, clandestine Russian group that trained super assassins might have put a little something extra in their borscht, and it falls in line with the source material of the comics, so it makes even more sense.

SToddB33 · 2 points · Posted at 20:10:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

You don't think some superhuman abilities that Black Widow had would've come to light in the 4 films she has been in now?

Galactic · 1 points · Posted at 20:40:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

None of the movies she's been in so far have been about her. She's just been a background character or part of an ensemble. Only one of those films gave her any sort of backstory and it left it pretty murky. If she gets her own movie (which looks like could happen) then we'll know for sure, I'm not willing to definitively say either way until then.

SToddB33 · 2 points · Posted at 20:47:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't think a Black Widow movie is coming anytime soon as Marvel is pretty booked through 2019. Besides background characters get plenty of backstory. War Machine has never had a solo film but we know everything we need to know about him. Hawkeye has never had a solo movie but we know about him. We learned all that we need to about Black Widow in Age of Ultron. She was taken into the program at a young age and trained to be a killer until she left. That's all we are gonna know about her for the foreseeable future. And no where in there does it hint that she has any super serum knockoff flowing through her veins.

Hell to go even further, they showed a different Black Widow on Agent Carter who went through the same process. Much more backstory into what the Black Widow program entails and there is zero mention of any serum.

MrLaughter · 0 points · Posted at 03:19:53 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

if anything, Bucky would have some serum-ski in his blood-ski.

cole1114 · 2 points · Posted at 11:00:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Correct, but Nick Fury has a knockoff of the formula.

SToddB33 · 6 points · Posted at 15:26:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Has it ever been said in the MCU that he does? I know in the comics he does as it allows him to live from the 40s to the current timeline but in the movies I thought he was just a really good spy.

cole1114 · -1 points · Posted at 15:35:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

There's a fan theory he's one of the commando guys that Steve fights alongside in the first Captain America movie.

randdomusername · 10 points · Posted at 17:10:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

So no, its not confirmed. Fan theories dont matter

cole1114 · -1 points · Posted at 17:45:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not confirmed, but it's how it is in the comics and there's only one black guy with the howling commandos in Cap 1.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 07:21:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Said black guys son is in Agents of shield. Fury was never a howling commando in the movies

BZenMojo · 1 points · Posted at 13:53:05 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

You two talking about Gabe Jones, famous black Howling Commando and future love interest of Peggy Carter? Nope, that's not Nick Fury and according to the picture in AoS that's not Tripp's granddad either. Anyway, Agent Carter already established that there's ANOTHER black guy in the MCU Howling Commandos.

huntergreenhoodie · 1 points · Posted at 13:22:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I just read the Black Widow Deadly Origins comic and she takes a serum during the Cold War that essentially makes her immortal/ages a lot slower than a normal human.

SToddB33 · 2 points · Posted at 15:28:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah see in the comics it exists but in the MCU she is just a normal human with exceptional killing skills.

huntergreenhoodie · 1 points · Posted at 15:41:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's all I was going for.
Her difference from comic to movie abilities.

There is a scene in that book where she saves Mockingbird and Hawkeye by kissing Bobbi which I'm sure would translate to screen pretty well though...

mastyrwerk · 2 points · Posted at 11:47:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

In the comics, maybe. They haven't established the Infinity Serum yet in the MCU.

BZenMojo · 4 points · Posted at 13:55:55 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

They needed it for the comics to explain why Nick Fury, Jimmy Woo, and Natasha Romanoff were still alive after so many years. The movies won't need it.

feels_good_donut · 5 points · Posted at 23:32:59 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Coulson is the ultimate diplomat. I consider that his superpower. No matter what the situation, he can diffuse and resolve.

Kiram · 3 points · Posted at 08:13:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Good eye, and I think it definitely works in their favor. Superheroes are awesome, but human characters kind of have to be there to bring the audience into it, and they have to be valuable.

Giving them a special ability that isn't "Super" but is clearly out of the ordinary is a good way to go with it.

myslead · 2 points · Posted at 14:18:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

coulson has ONE hand

mastyrwerk · 5 points · Posted at 15:57:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

One AWESOME hand.

Soon he'll have one awesome ROBOT hand as well.

ldnk · 2 points · Posted at 03:04:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

So what you are saying is Luis is the one who will take Thanos down!

TurnPunchKick · 1 points · Posted at 21:43:02 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Luis steals the Infinity Guatlet but his cousins can't find a buyer. Ends up just punch Thanos when he comes looking for it. And eventually just give it to his Grandma.

gandalfsmagicgaydick · 2 points · Posted at 18:51:57 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Coulson's just awesome.

Best non-superpower power ever.

tide_reflects_sky · 4 points · Posted at 05:16:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I like the way you think

svrtngr · 2 points · Posted at 23:38:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He was the most Wright-ish of everything left and by far the best character.

entertainman · 3 points · Posted at 05:56:31 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

variety says

But some of Ant-Man’s best moments—a fight-scene cameo from Anthony Mackie’s Falcon, a series of hilariously rambling montages narrated by Michael Peña’s petty crook, a trippy visit to the “quantum realm”—are Reed’s.

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/07/ant-man-michael-douglas-young

your_mind_aches · 1 points · Posted at 18:00:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Most characters in the film were created by Wright.

Still, Peyton Reed is the one who actually made the film, so be should be given a bit more credit!

mastyrwerk · 1 points · Posted at 18:14:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ok?

What a weird comment. Nobody is bad mouthing Reed. The guy did a bang up job. If he didn't create the characters, though, he's not really part of this conversation.

your_mind_aches · 1 points · Posted at 18:25:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think there's quite a bit of praise for Wright where there should be praise for Reed. I mistook your comment for that. My apologies.

mastyrwerk · 1 points · Posted at 18:37:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, I'm not dissing on Reed. I'm grateful he stepped up.

That being said, though, if it was Wright that laid this out, he should definitely be recognized for it.

your_mind_aches · 1 points · Posted at 19:54:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think Wright has more than enough recognition as it is. Reed needs some more love, I think!

mastyrwerk · 2 points · Posted at 20:04:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't think it's really a competition. I'm impressed with the final product, and props to all the people that worked on it.

your_mind_aches · 1 points · Posted at 20:19:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

You're right, but look at all the critics and tell me Reed doesn't get enough credit for this movie...

mastyrwerk · 2 points · Posted at 20:27:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't care. I'm happy with his directing, and when the topic comes to it, I will praise him. But right now, we're talking about the characters, and your interjecting Reed has nothing to do with it.

How about you post at the top of the page all your favorite things about Reed's work on the movie, and I will contribute to the conversation.

your_mind_aches · 1 points · Posted at 20:42:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Sorry?

mastyrwerk · 1 points · Posted at 20:56:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

No, I'm sorry to jump down your throat. I just don't see how it is relevant to the conversation you were joining.

And then I answered you, respectfully, and you wouldn't leave it alone. I do like Reed's direction. I like a lot of his other films. I liked this one.

But we are talking about a thing he did not create. It's almost a disservice to Wright now by forcibly bringing Reed into it. The guy worked on it for almost a decade after all.

turtelini · 1 points · Posted at 19:05:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

God, it was really too apparent which parts were written by Wright and which parts were Marvel universe filler scenes.

mastyrwerk · 2 points · Posted at 19:14:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Let's see...

Flashbacks and Falcon: Marvel

Baskin Robbins and Luis' explanations of Intel: Wright.

turtelini · 1 points · Posted at 19:39:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I would really have loved to see the final product had Wright been kept on the project. The first twenty or so minutes of the movie were very obviously written by him, and it shows. It's just works on so many levels. Perfect example being when Luis monologues at Scott about his entire life history. I almost felt it was creeping into cheesy territory but of course it's shown to be on purpose with "I get that, but why are you telling me my whole life story?"

ochooconnell · 1 points · Posted at 05:57:23 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

He was created by Wright. Michael Pena was recently interviewed by Grantland and said Wright wrote the role specifically for him and how he was surprised it stayed relatively the same throughout even after Wright left the project.

Fallcious · 1 points · Posted at 04:42:32 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

He has the equivalent of Spock's Nerve Pinch located at the apex of his knuckles.

entertainman · 1 points · Posted at 05:55:44 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

according to variety, Reed came up with that characters rambling.

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/07/ant-man-michael-douglas-young

mastyrwerk · 1 points · Posted at 12:08:31 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)*

That's great! I loved every part Reed contributed!

Does it say he came up with his one punch knockout?

thedolaon · 3 points · Posted at 05:09:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't think so. I think it was just nice consistency with the character.

arlanTLDR · 3 points · Posted at 06:07:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They set it up at the start when he said he was the only one to knock out that other prisoner.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 12:34:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Peaches.

dimsumx · 1 points · Posted at 04:53:43 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-dWr3aoot4

Transfinite_Entropy · 1 points · Posted at 20:23:21 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nah, he just has really strong arms, he lifted a lot in prison.

EarthExile · 1 points · Posted at 23:22:57 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'd call myself Haymaker. Or Concussion.

BeardyMcTratorson · 24 points · Posted at 05:04:54 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well now we know how they beat Thanos

sugar_free_haribo · 53 points · Posted at 18:36:09 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Luis = Iron Fist

Huge black guy in prison = Luke Cage

mastyrwerk · 9 points · Posted at 18:44:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nailed it.

Try_Another_Please · 10 points · Posted at 23:26:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

There is a manga with this premise

mastyrwerk · 3 points · Posted at 23:31:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fist of the Northstar?

Try_Another_Please · 15 points · Posted at 00:16:41 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nope. One Punch Man. It's a web series that now has a manga. It's getting an anime as well. It's about a guy who's so powerful that he can't fight anyone without winning right away

mastyrwerk · 1 points · Posted at 00:20:11 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fist of the Northstar was kinda like that. He could touch you and your head would explode.

One Punch Man sounds fun!

Try_Another_Please · 2 points · Posted at 00:21:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know. I was clearing up what I was referring to

nordlund63 · 7 points · Posted at 12:47:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

One-Punch Man

MoonKingKyle · 5 points · Posted at 05:08:27 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Saitama confirmed for MCU?

katakatakara · 4 points · Posted at 06:24:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

He needs to train harder and lose all his hair

[deleted] · 11 points · Posted at 12:33:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They established it early when he said he was the only person to knock out Peaches.

SIMULATIONTERMINATED · 1 points · Posted at 06:09:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The one punch machine gun

CallMeJono · 1 points · Posted at 12:38:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's awesome! Good job on spotting that.

confused_chopstick · 1 points · Posted at 19:18:12 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I agree. Love the reddit posts that takes something you've seen/known and put a fresh perspective to it.

jeremycase00 · 1 points · Posted at 04:00:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

To be fair though he did say he was the only one to knock out that big black dude in prison.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:35:45 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Iron Fist

JEDZBUDYNIE · 1 points · Posted at 19:35:27 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

holy fuck.

tbh i'd like to see him as a superhero

snarkamedes · 1 points · Posted at 01:30:31 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anybody notice Luis' superpower?
He has a one punch knockout.

Presumably learnt that from Peachy at the prison we saw in the goodbye party scene. Luis did say he knocked him out - might have been the closest he came to telling the truth (and so succinctly) in the whole film.

AstralFinish · 1 points · Posted at 02:08:40 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

The one-hitter-quitter.

feyrband · 1 points · Posted at 14:56:47 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I did think it was odd for Michael Pena, who seems to be on the rise, to be in that kind of role. This may be further explanation for that.

12nuskek · 1 points · Posted at 23:59:38 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

He's inHuman...

roastbeeftacohat · 1 points · Posted at 21:26:48 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Blackbolt verified.

Marundo · 1 points · Posted at 13:16:33 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

I enjoyed this when I seen the film on release, but thinking today, what if they keep going with Luis' character and in Civil War he one punch knocks out Cap?!

mastyrwerk · 1 points · Posted at 14:29:03 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

He could be the only person to take out the Hulk!

Marundo · 1 points · Posted at 15:10:36 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah that was my initial thought, but I thought it was too far so I dialed it back to Cap, but it would be great though, Falcon has to fly him at Hulks face to get that punch in there.

mastyrwerk · 1 points · Posted at 15:14:46 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

How about they shrink him and fire at him with Hawkeye's arrow?!

Marundo · 1 points · Posted at 17:23:54 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

Even better yet!

mastyrwerk · 1 points · Posted at 18:09:09 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

I bet he could one punch ko Banner before he hulks out.

Rage monsters and Asgardians might take a little more.

Marundo · 2 points · Posted at 18:44:59 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

Avengers 3.2 ends with him holding a microphone and punching Thanos out cold, drops mic.

snappydo · 285 points · Posted at 06:06:53 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

When Ant-Man went into that 4th demension thing, all I could think of was "Don't let me leave Murph!"

[deleted] · 43 points · Posted at 15:38:23 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

MURRRRRPH

wosh · 13 points · Posted at 13:38:09 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure that's not the fourth dimension...

[deleted] · 34 points · Posted at 00:57:01 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

THE FIFTH DIMENSION IS LOVE!

ustarizg · 2215 points · Posted at 12:12:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"My girl left me...my mom died...my dad got deported....BUT I GOT THE VAN THOUGH!"

[deleted] · 841 points · Posted at 16:51:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

We could all learn something from Luis's optimism.

Frankocean2 · 939 points · Posted at 01:10:31 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

You know what I loved about this movie, how human it was. When Luis goes the extra mile to save the life of the body guard he had knocked out, that made me smile.

JimmyMcShiv · 296 points · Posted at 00:08:31 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

"We're the good guys right?"

2x2hands0f00f · 16 points · Posted at 13:27:49 on August 15, 2015 · (Permalink)

'back it up... just back it up...back it up... back it up..'

Tortoise_Crusher · 35 points · Posted at 02:59:25 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

While totally leaving the others he knocked out (the guys who were shooting the building model) to die, but whatever

Aprils-Fool · 60 points · Posted at 21:21:18 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, those were the bad guys. The guy he pulled out was just a random guy, presumably innocent.

[deleted] · 14 points · Posted at 02:52:22 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

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WadeK · 37 points · Posted at 13:24:48 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

If you tell an ordinary security guard, "Hey, kill everything that comes out of that room." they will probably refuse and call the cops. Because security guards are generally more deterrents and police-contactors rather than badass heroes.

Aprils-Fool · 9 points · Posted at 10:46:11 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Tortoise_Crusher mention the guys who were shooting up the white building model trying to get Scott. I think those were the guys close to Darren, so more like henchmen. I'd assume the ones working closely with him were part of the evil.

[deleted] · 80 points · Posted at 06:52:56 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought those were Hydra guys though

[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 01:44:59 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

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Tortoise_Crusher · 0 points · Posted at 02:52:09 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

Exactly. They dead

truthgoblin · 12 points · Posted at 12:52:24 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I like rudds brand of comedy but I wish there was a bit more of Louis' sincerity in his character. It can be tough when the main character is sarcastic and cynical the whole time

orphenshadow · 38 points · Posted at 15:41:37 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't know. I think the fact that they are so different helps both characters work well together.

truthgoblin · 2 points · Posted at 15:54:17 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

In their scenes together of course. I mean Paul rudd's Scott as a whole

MeridianKnight · 46 points · Posted at 00:33:39 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

His over the top sarcasm cynicism made his character becoming a thief, screw-up and failure as a husband and father more believable, I thought. His talk with Hope acknowledging the reason he was picked and why Hank didn't want her to go in with the suit came across as sincere to me as well.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 14:07:27 on August 2, 2015 · (Permalink)

I assumed it was part of the plan to help Hank.

rentonwong · -29 points · Posted at 16:09:30 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's something people in the MCU try to do unlike the DCCU where Superman just goes along and creates mini-9/11s while fighting (also angering Batfleck in the process).

Taasden · 79 points · Posted at 21:44:30 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Sigh There's been one movie in the DCCU so far, and it was Superman having his hands utterly full with Zod. The next movie is all about the repercussions of that event, and highlights Bruce actively going TOWARDS the scene of the accident to help people out. Even in Man of Steel, Perry is shown trying to protect his employees.

Yet people are still parroting these same broken arguments.

rentonwong · 37 points · Posted at 04:12:39 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes and I hope Batman wins the civil suit against Superman in the upcoming legal thriller

brutalcumpowder · 3 points · Posted at 00:26:16 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

lol savage

chlomyster · 22 points · Posted at 23:13:17 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I still personally think they were caught off guard by people being horrified and changed the entire plot of the next film to try and cover their own asses. If they always planned on showing repercussions I doubt MoS would have ended with a comment about Superman being cute.

Taasden · 7 points · Posted at 23:43:43 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I find it hard to believe that the driving plot element of Batman vs Superman was conceived of after Man of Steel's release, especially when DC's establishing their expanded universe. Superman returning the rocket to the general seemed to just be a light-hearted moment after the movie's conclusion.

Edit: I'm wrong about the story being nailed down before MoS's release. See below.

Note: This doesn't mean that they were "caught off guard" by the reaction, but it does show they finalized everything later than I would've guessed.

mrdrofficer · 16 points · Posted at 13:37:26 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Sorry to tell you, but they did. In the BvS issue of Entertainment Weekly that just came out, Zach Snyder says he and the other producers were discussing the next film weeks after MoS when he said, what about Batman and then, "once it was out there, there was no way to avoid it." - approximate quote because I don't have the issue right now.

TLDR - BvS' plot was decided weeks AFTER the release of MoS

Taasden · 3 points · Posted at 17:03:44 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Looks like you're right. Here is an article where Snyder states that the concept of introducing Batman came after Man of Steel's release.

I don't feel like this invalidates the fact that DC chose to focus on the human toll for BvS. These themes have been prevelant in DC comics for ages.

Man of Steel still depicts a novice Superman that was already stretching the limits of his abilities by dealing with Zod. I feel like Perry's actions during the assault, as well as Clark breaking cover to save the kids from the drowning bus earlier in the film (despite the his adopted father's trepidation over it later), invalidates any argument that DC doesn't care about their characters helping people.

mrdrofficer · 3 points · Posted at 17:35:59 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I have no qualms about DC having its characters care about its citizens. That's totally true. Thanks for the response.

scottmill · 4 points · Posted at 08:36:25 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

When are we getting that Man of Steel 2 movie that got bumped for BVS:DOJ-TJLP?

Everything WB has done with their "DCCU" projects has been a clusterfuck, from revamping the MOS sequel to be a Batman/Superman movie to a Justice League intro to asking stars to just pick a character they'd like to play in their slate of 20 never-to-be-made movies.

chlomyster · 2 points · Posted at 23:47:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I dont think theres anything at the end of the movie that leads into a world where people are angry at or scared of Superman. They definitely had more than enough time to change their plans.

mrdrofficer · -1 points · Posted at 13:38:31 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

You are right. Proof below. Downvotes should stop.

[deleted] · -4 points · Posted at 08:16:27 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

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Frankocean2 · 9 points · Posted at 09:08:30 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, Yeah they were trying to.kill his homie, fuck those guys

VIsForVoltz2 · 6 points · Posted at 08:58:32 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The security guard didn't try to kill Scott.

SUPERsharpcheddar · 421 points · Posted at 19:53:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That guy was perfectly cast. I've always wondered about that job as a casting person, seems like such an unreliable role to have.

Wowbagger1 · 44 points · Posted at 21:50:40 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

You have to watch him in End of Watch. Its much better than it looks from the trailers.

SUPERsharpcheddar · 24 points · Posted at 22:02:31 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

lol. I saw that. I didn't realize this was the same dude. More like his little dopey brother.

[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 20:07:50 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Watch "30 minutes or less" HES FUCKING HILARIOUS IN THAT MOVIE

Dr_Midnight · 92 points · Posted at 02:14:29 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)*

As soon as I saw Michael Peña, I knew I was going to be laughing throughout this movie. By the way, I liked the Spider-Man reference he dropped. "We've got one that jumps, we've got one that swings, we've got one that crawls up the walls."

Edit: Can't forget his One-Punch Knockout Power.

SandmanAlcatraz · 11 points · Posted at 02:22:43 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Are the people who jump and swing references to other superheroes?

Dr_Midnight · 24 points · Posted at 02:45:17 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was all one singular reference to Spider-Man.

datSkillz · 14 points · Posted at 05:14:58 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Are you sure? The way she says "We've got one that..." seems to imply that they are different heroes, but I agree that they all seem to be a reference to Spiderman, just sounds odd to say it that way which makes me believe she meant other heroes.

twitchedawake · 20 points · Posted at 22:10:09 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Its second hand knowledge from a terrible story teller.

[deleted] · 13 points · Posted at 15:01:41 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The theater erupted at that. It was hilarious. I love how the movie does it again when Hope and Hank were having a heart to heart, and Scott just breaks the moment.

TravT0uchdwn · 1814 points · Posted at 02:11:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Was anyone else impressed by the de-aging job they did on Michael Douglas?

homeboi808 · 893 points · Posted at 02:27:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes. As well as with the aging of Peggy and Hoawrd (glad they used the original actor too).

LuluVonLuvenburg · 323 points · Posted at 09:56:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

But I'm still having trouble finding the decade in which Dominique copper turns into John slattery. In iron man 2, those scenes with him looked like they took place in the late 70's and the scene in the beginning of ant-man took place in 89. He looked as though he aged 30 years in the span of ten. I'm also confused as to why in TWS they used Dominic Coopers picture instead of Slattery's when talking about Howard's death.

AmazingMarv · 125 points · Posted at 21:49:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Weird. I had the opposite thought. I thought the Expo from Iron Man 2 was in the 60s whereas Howard Stark seemed to only age about 10 years. But I just checked IM2 and the expo was in 74 and he did look noticeably younger.

I think the best way to explain it away is that in IM2, we only see Howard Stark from the video Tony plays at the expo, and the quality isn't great and likely hides some wrinkles.

I can accept it:

http://i.imgur.com/koiFrDr.jpg

meme-com-poop · 36 points · Posted at 08:32:47 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Could be all the stress from running SHIELD. Look how much presidents age in just 8 years. Here's Obama at his first inauguration and here's a more recent one...and he's aged pretty well.

[deleted] · 14 points · Posted at 14:37:16 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Or maybe it's just that people don't visibly age on a linear scale.

mrshock13 · 28 points · Posted at 21:14:42 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The reason for using Dominic Cooper was that THAT face of Stark was the one that Cap knew, not the older one. His connection to SHIELD was through Peggy and Stark. Therefore, our connection to SHIELD in that film should be through a lens of Cap's, the faces that he knows.

Solid question you asked.

LuluVonLuvenburg · 6 points · Posted at 21:37:18 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thanks. I have another question. Do we know when Howard and Maria stark died in the MCU? I know in the beginning of iron man 1 there is that ceremony to honor tony and they quickly went through his history and mentioned their death but I don't remember if they specified a date.

mrshock13 · 11 points · Posted at 21:55:52 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

In the newspaper clipping from Iron Man 1 (http://i.stack.imgur.com/3EniH.jpg) they give the date being in 1991. Tony being 17 at that time.

It's never mentioned out loud, but Marvel did put dates together for all of these little bits to appear properly in their films.

Cheers!

LuluVonLuvenburg · 8 points · Posted at 22:49:10 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

You think Disney is going to pull a Lucas and digitally alter this clipping to turn that guy into Slattery? I hope they do that for the 10 year anniversary.

mrshock13 · 2 points · Posted at 23:41:50 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hahahaha, that would be funny

Slap-Happy · 31 points · Posted at 10:18:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Howard Stark kind of seems like the type that would go for cosmetic surgery.

gandalfsmagicgaydick · 2 points · Posted at 19:00:12 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It also helped change his wit.

mixquill · 15 points · Posted at 12:31:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

More important than going from looking like Cooper to Slattery, when did Howard Stark lose his old-timey accent?!

your_mind_aches · 27 points · Posted at 17:58:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

This one is probably easier to explain. He probably lost it in the 60s

GotMoFans · 13 points · Posted at 20:05:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

1974 to 1989....

John Slattery grayed in his forties so I'm guessing Howard Stark could have grayed in 15. Plus, maybe the senior stark dyed for the public image. Could be vain like his kid.

orphenshadow · 6 points · Posted at 15:35:26 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's possible to appear to age 30 years in 10. Just look at any two term U.S. Presidents before and after photos.

LuluVonLuvenburg · -3 points · Posted at 15:53:54 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think that's more due to stress. What does Howard stark have to stress about?

gandalfsmagicgaydick · 14 points · Posted at 18:58:47 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I mean, other than running a global spy agency and a multi-billion dollar weapons manufacturing company?

ExultantSandwich · 6 points · Posted at 03:19:12 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Plus Prom was tommorow

orphenshadow · 8 points · Posted at 16:09:13 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't know. ha. I guess dealing with a teenage Tony would probably add a few gray hairs.

no_this_is_God · 9 points · Posted at 14:25:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Holy shit I hadn't realized that Slattery was supposed to be Stark. I just thought he was a one off executive type. Especially because I don't think of an old man when I see him.

spiderpigface · 16 points · Posted at 19:31:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hank Pym referred to him by name and later said he wouldn't let the Pym particles fall into the hands of another Stark. They were pretty quick lines, easy to miss.

versusgorilla · 8 points · Posted at 16:50:27 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I missed them because I was so excited to get an Agent Carter cameo that I didn't realize that we were also getting a Howard Stark cameo.

spiderpigface · 5 points · Posted at 22:21:17 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was actually the exact opposite! I was so excited about seeing Howard that I totally missed Peggy.

versusgorilla · 5 points · Posted at 22:28:18 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think we can all agree that the scene was distracting because it was loaded full of short cameos. Haha

[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 00:22:38 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Agree with the first part but for TWS they probably just used Cooper's photo since he portrayed Stark in the first Captain America film - helping to link it back for the audiences.

jordanrhys · 3 points · Posted at 06:22:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

picture from the year Howard created SHIELD.

SutterCane · 3 points · Posted at 19:17:01 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm also confused as to why in TWS they used Dominic Coopers picture instead of Slaterry's when talking about Howard's death.

It's to cover that people may have seen the first Captain America but not watched Iron Man 2.

dbobaunchained · 3 points · Posted at 21:02:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Only difference was the grey. It's very possible to go totally grey over a ten year period.

Try_Another_Please · 1 points · Posted at 23:25:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Somebody looked at newspaper clippings of his death in TWS and in Iron Man. Turned out they were different papers and one just used a young picture, the other an old one.

mastafishere · 1 points · Posted at 06:40:00 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

They probably used Dominic's picture because it was technically a sequel to the first captain America.

Level3Kobold · 1 points · Posted at 04:09:50 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

He looked as though he aged 30 years in the span of ten.

It happens.

mefford_howell · 4 points · Posted at 07:58:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Where was Peggy? I think I missed that.

LouisIV · 10 points · Posted at 09:31:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The first scene, when the Shield HQ was still being built, there were two guys and one girl, the one girl was Peggy.

mefford_howell · 1 points · Posted at 16:19:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wow, I didn't realize that was her. I fact, at first I thought it was her and then dismissed it.

LouisIV · 1 points · Posted at 18:38:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah! I thought it was her, dismissed it, but then heard her voice and knew it had to be her.

mr_popcorn · 4 points · Posted at 12:04:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I did find it a little bit odd that they used old makeup for Peggy and then used John Slattery for old Howard Stark. I guess Dominic Cooper wasn't available?

dipiddy · 7 points · Posted at 14:10:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

John Slattery

They already used him in Iron Man http://i.imgur.com/4aZ1poZ.png

no_this_is_God · 4 points · Posted at 14:26:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

THAT WAS SLATTERY TOO? Goddamn I never realized that

sugar_free_haribo · 6 points · Posted at 03:05:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Lol they didn't age Dominic Cooper. That was John Slattery.

homeboi808 · 28 points · Posted at 03:50:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, the first guy to play Howard.

DoneHam56 · 2 points · Posted at 19:04:45 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wouldn't the first guy that played him be the guy that was in those photos at the beginning of Iron Man?

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 19:09:33 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

You mean Gerard Sanders?

deadlast · 7 points · Posted at 03:32:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They aged him from Iron Man 1, though.

Slickrickkk · 1 points · Posted at 04:54:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Dominic Cooper wasn't in Iron Man 1.

gatsby365 · 11 points · Posted at 04:57:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

BUT WHO'S THE GUY ON FIRST?

Slickrickkk · 3 points · Posted at 05:13:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm asking YOU who's on first.

gatsby365 · 3 points · Posted at 05:18:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's the guy's name.

Slickrickkk · 3 points · Posted at 05:21:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Who?

gatsby365 · 2 points · Posted at 05:25:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What?

Slickrickkk · 2 points · Posted at 05:27:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Your line was "Yes."

gatsby365 · 1 points · Posted at 05:33:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

shit man, i fucked it all up.

ActuallyMike · 1 points · Posted at 10:44:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Third base?

The_R3medy · 1 points · Posted at 14:25:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think the original Howard actor is just old lol

homeboi808 · 3 points · Posted at 14:28:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

https://pmctvline2.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/slattery-blog1.jpg

The_R3medy · 1 points · Posted at 14:38:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I mean, it has been like five years since then

frinkhutz · 1 points · Posted at 19:05:47 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Devil's advocate: that wasn't the original Howard Stark. The actor in Iron Man was different. I like this guy, but he didn't show up until iron man 2

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 19:09:50 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

You mean Gerard Sanders?

frinkhutz · 1 points · Posted at 19:16:41 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes exactly

QuickestSilver · 1 points · Posted at 22:26:59 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did they use the same character though? To me it looked like Howard was one of the characters from Mad Men. Brb while I look

Edit: For Ant Man and Iron Man 2 they used John Slattery. In Cap America and Agent Carter they used Dominic Cooper.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 13:03:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wait.... That version of Howard was the same actor as young Howard? They made it blatantly obvious with Peggy but holy shit props to whoever aged Howard!

EDIT: Nevermind it's not Dominic Cooper they used the Iron Man 1 guy. My bad...

CHINEY8 · 277 points · Posted at 02:43:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yea that was incredible. Miles ahead of what they did to Jeff Bridges in Tron.

your_mind_aches · 22 points · Posted at 17:59:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

TONY STARK BUILT THIS IN A CAVE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!!!!

Yeah_Okay_Sure · 268 points · Posted at 06:02:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think you mean streets ahead, but that's okay. /s

[deleted] · 110 points · Posted at 09:34:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If he has to ask, he's streets behind.

NeilPoonHandler · 5 points · Posted at 02:25:12 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Coined and minted.

BeardyMcTratorson · 2 points · Posted at 05:03:42 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Stop trying to coin the term streets ahead.

GnarlsD · 4 points · Posted at 13:30:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If you have to ask, you're streets behind.

JavaNewie · 2 points · Posted at 00:32:18 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Streets is too far back. For 1989, the age regression would have to be more Basic.

awesomeman462 · 2 points · Posted at 15:54:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If you have to ask, you're streets behind.

valeyard89 · 1 points · Posted at 18:07:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He was so fetch

I_am_the_bunny · 0 points · Posted at 05:17:21 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why the fuck did u put the moronic "/s" tag? This has gotten out of control, my god.

KingOfAwesometonia · 4 points · Posted at 07:00:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah well they didn't have to do it for half the movie. Though I'd be down for that prequel.

And man CLU is supposed to look creepy and fake. Or that's my reasoning.

mfranko88 · 4 points · Posted at 06:33:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Yes. But to be fair that movie is 7.5 years older. Which is a millennia in CGI technology.

Edit: Am wrong. 4.5 years ago. Still been a while.

Fenghoang · 2 points · Posted at 07:07:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

movie is 7.5 years older.

By that, do you mean 4.5 years older?

Tron:Legacy was released on December 17, 2010.

mfranko88 · 1 points · Posted at 07:26:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Totally thought it came out in 07 or 08. My bad.

I'm usually on point when it comes to movie release years. Can't believe I was so far off here :-(

Nulono · 0 points · Posted at 05:43:59 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

*a millennium

adamantium3 · 2 points · Posted at 07:10:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

You reminded me of the nightmares.

Turok1134 · 2 points · Posted at 08:44:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Was it a complete CG recreation of Douglas' head?

mhallgren5 · 1 points · Posted at 02:54:59 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Miles ahead because they had an extra 5 years to perfect it.

brangel22 · 23 points · Posted at 06:56:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

At first I was like, "Michael Douglas has aged good as fuck!"

KidDBrock · 9 points · Posted at 07:23:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was astonishing. I thought I was watching Wall Street. Didn't look fake at all. Made me wonder if they used a brand new kind of motion capture or something.

topdeck55 · 5 points · Posted at 05:30:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

For reference, this is actual 1989 Michael Douglas.

CaptainChewbacca · 5 points · Posted at 08:43:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was insanely good vfx.

GotMoFans · 4 points · Posted at 22:09:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It looked great. Especially remembering how bad it looked on Jeff Bridges on Tron 2 and Patrick Stewart on X-Men 3.

TravT0uchdwn · 2 points · Posted at 22:46:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think Jeff Bridges looked worse than Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart

msmouse05 · 4 points · Posted at 01:57:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The de-aging blew me away, there were a couple little imperfections but it was very good.

edwartica · 5 points · Posted at 22:42:58 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

As someone who was a kid in the 80s, I'm still shocked at how old Micheal Douglas is today.

But perfect casting though - especially for the 80s scene. Micheal Douglas totally would have played 1980s ant man / Hank Pym.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 06:04:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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ColinAllCarz · 2 points · Posted at 12:14:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, I think I know which one you're talking about. It was a close up and his lips didn't look right when he spoke.

entertainman · 2 points · Posted at 05:59:28 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeap, they had everything down great except the lip movements. Pretty astonishing.

bmacnz · 3 points · Posted at 16:50:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Exactly what I told my wife. The last couple of years, movies have gotten really good at this. It's remarkable.

leumas19 · 2 points · Posted at 14:02:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I actually missed the opening scene. Can you tell me what happened?

prophetofgreed · 7 points · Posted at 05:16:11 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

1989, Triskelion is being built and Hank steps in, it's Micheal Douglas looking straight out of Wall Street and he confronts the evil weapons guy you see later, Peggy Carter and Howard Stark, about them trying to recreate his Pym Particle formula.

This ends with Hank vowing to hide the formula and resigning from Shield.

GolgaGrimnaar · 2 points · Posted at 16:14:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I missed the year flash up for whatever reason, and I commented to my friend that Douglas looked really damn good for such an old guy. D'oh!

blankedboy · 2 points · Posted at 04:18:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

That scene was amazing. And reminded me of how much I'd missed Michael Douglas as an actor. He is so good.

Foreveralone42875 · 1 points · Posted at 05:07:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was amazing! It didn't look fake at all, too bad TRON Legacy wasn't made with this technology!

mattcuz83 · 1 points · Posted at 19:41:14 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'd imagine it's a similair method as the beginning of X3 with Xavier and Magneto.

Eab213 · 1 points · Posted at 00:00:38 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

My first thought was we came a long way since Xmen origin:wolverine.

pomaruchan · 1 points · Posted at 02:57:26 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

For sure. My wife didn't want to believe it was him at first, it was just very well done.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 10:04:30 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I actually thought that was how he looked until I realised it was a flashback

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:35:15 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes, it didn't quite make it out of the uncanny valley for me, but I think it's made it to the slope going up on the opposite side.

tobephair · 1 points · Posted at 23:40:02 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It felt like Gekko had returned for a moment.

GrassyNol · 1 points · Posted at 23:43:22 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah he looked like Marty McFly.

Celebrimbors_Revenge · 1 points · Posted at 00:03:45 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes! And they did a great job aging what appeared to be Chael Sonnen!

drakeprimeone · 1 points · Posted at 01:06:10 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was Michael Douglas ala Romancing the Stone

bagofbeef74 · 1 points · Posted at 02:10:32 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It floored me. I kept thinking that they must have gone back to the '90s and pulled some shots from something else he was in. Very impressive job on the de-aging.

benscookie · 1 points · Posted at 10:14:35 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was wondering why he looked that young! Must be the neutron cream.

Flatrock · 1 points · Posted at 03:25:06 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah! It was amazing!

cadrina · 1 points · Posted at 04:10:30 on July 28, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was very impressed, especially with an actor that we all know so well from his works at that age.

BIG_PY · -1 points · Posted at 12:04:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was really distracted about it. It seemed as if his mouth and nose were moving as if detached from one another.

AstroZombie95 · 1728 points · Posted at 02:22:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That scene where Cross tries to shrink the guy in the bathroom and the guy just turns into a small puddle of bloody goop was fucking horrifying.

IAmTheWaller67 · 1194 points · Posted at 06:02:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Goodbye, Frank."

Flush

Daaaaaamn, that was the most unceremonious death in all of MCU

baribigbird06 · 1033 points · Posted at 07:40:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Peter Russo got his revenge!

your_mind_aches · 70 points · Posted at 17:53:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

When this comes out on Blu-Ray I really have to edit a scene where Russo shrinks Frank.

CybranM · 3 points · Posted at 00:57:22 on August 3, 2015 · (Permalink)

Tagged "Will give Russo his revenge"

your_mind_aches · 2 points · Posted at 01:06:01 on August 3, 2015 · (Permalink)

U wanna tussle, m8?

bluthscottgeorge · 3 points · Posted at 11:37:09 on November 9, 2015 · (Permalink)

Is it out on DVD yet?

your_mind_aches · 2 points · Posted at 12:25:32 on November 9, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not yet. Can't remember the exact release date though.

beltleatherbelt · 1 points · Posted at 08:29:40 on December 13, 2015 · (Permalink)

your_mind_aches · 1 points · Posted at 15:47:48 on December 13, 2015 · (Permalink)

What

beltleatherbelt · 1 points · Posted at 16:17:26 on December 13, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's out on DVD

your_mind_aches · 1 points · Posted at 16:34:33 on December 13, 2015 · (Permalink)

Makes sense.

beltleatherbelt · 1 points · Posted at 16:42:27 on December 13, 2015 · (Permalink)

Check the context! You said you would edit the scene in Ant-Man where Russo shrinks Frank.

your_mind_aches · 1 points · Posted at 17:07:54 on December 13, 2015 · (Permalink)

OH RIGHT. THAT! YES.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:08:17 on January 5, 2016 · (Permalink)

Stiiiill waiting...

your_mind_aches · 2 points · Posted at 02:10:40 on January 5, 2016 · (Permalink)

Probably ain't gonna happen. Hah.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:41:45 on January 5, 2016 · (Permalink)

you're fired, johnson!

your_mind_aches · 2 points · Posted at 04:33:46 on January 6, 2016 · (Permalink)

:((((((((((((((((

Sockin · 251 points · Posted at 14:27:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Holy shit, I didn't even catch that. I realllly hope that was intentional.

elkab0ng · 8 points · Posted at 04:18:52 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I just was watching House of Cards (again) with one of the kids last week. Same one I took to the movie tonight. You can tell the adoption rate of Netflix by the fact that 50% of the audience did the exact same double-take when they first saw "Russo".

Netwinn · 4 points · Posted at 04:10:42 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

That, was a subtle dig. Loved it.

apocalypsenowandthen · 18 points · Posted at 09:22:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I understood that reference.

kiaha · 11 points · Posted at 07:07:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't, remind me?

boringwritingchic · 22 points · Posted at 14:22:59 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

House of Cards. Frank presses the button to kill Russo. In Ant-Man, he kills Frank.

falconbox · 6 points · Posted at 05:38:02 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Frank presses the button to kill Russo.

Button? He left him to get suffocated in a running car in the garage.

ninjasoldat · 14 points · Posted at 07:18:30 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

His car ignition was button press.

tehrand0mz · 3 points · Posted at 20:25:20 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

The button press of closing the garage door works too.

steelbeamsdankmemes · 3 points · Posted at 20:12:22 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

To clarify more, Russo is a character from House of Cards played by Corey Stoll, who plays Darren Cross/Yellowjacket.

kiaha · 1 points · Posted at 20:24:10 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ooooooohhhh ok gotcha. I haven't seen that show yet :/

katiethered · 3 points · Posted at 00:31:14 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Unfortunately, you just got spoiled for a big event in season 1 (I think...) but it's still an amazing show!

kiaha · 2 points · Posted at 00:45:11 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'll probably forget it by the time I see it so it's all good!

runujhkj · 2 points · Posted at 04:21:22 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Talk about useless pain.

nathanzo · 1 points · Posted at 15:11:33 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

ELI5?

baribigbird06 · 4 points · Posted at 19:18:50 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

House of Cards reference. Corey Stoll plays a congressman whose life is ruined by a ruthless politician named Frank Underwood played by Kevin Spacey.

KingOfAwesometonia · 18 points · Posted at 06:56:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah and might be the worst. Though two people in two different Captain America movies have been thrown into blades.

Crossing my fingers for a third guy in Civil War.

Invisachubbs · 5 points · Posted at 17:48:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thought the exact same thing when I first saw WS. Like a weird little easter egg, similar to how every film in the Marvel Phase has an appendage being cut off as an homage to Empire Strikes Back.

coldermilk · 4 points · Posted at 01:56:03 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

oh god, just how he wiped the guy's remains up so unceremoniously with toilet paper was one of the most unsettling deaths in a Marvel film

argusromblei · 2 points · Posted at 15:03:38 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

No one ever remembered he existed after that

theuserwithoutaname · 307 points · Posted at 11:52:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Definitely thought that was a tazer

...Definitely wasn't a tazer

SutterCane · 40 points · Posted at 19:20:35 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

"So what the hell is he going to do to that guy after he tasers him? Drag him through the halls without anyon- ..... oh..... ooohhhh. Ah. Shit. What the fuck."

theuserwithoutaname · 6 points · Posted at 19:36:26 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Exactly.

Ratava · 9 points · Posted at 23:47:03 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved Ant-Man getting tazed just after Yellowjacket gets bug-zapped.

blake_brown · 482 points · Posted at 02:37:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

that was fucked up, then he did it again to a poor lamb because... bad guy.

adamantium3 · 468 points · Posted at 07:10:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did you figure out who the bad guy is yet? No? Here. We'll have him kill a lamb just to really make it clear

[deleted] · 603 points · Posted at 16:44:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"I thought we were using rats."

"What's the difference?"

He brings up a good point... we pretty much say that the life of a lamb is more valuable than that of a mouse. Brings up interesting ethical dilemmas and that sure as hell was not the point of the scene.

D-Speak · 160 points · Posted at 14:14:41 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved Stoll's performance in this. He didn't play the character as a one note bad guy. Cross felt believable to me, and lines like "What's the difference?" felt genuine, rather than cackling villainy talk.

ButchTheKitty · 16 points · Posted at 20:37:19 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Only downside to him for me was the delivery of some of his lines about Hank not believing in him or being there for him, they felt a little stiff. Otherwise I thought he was enjoyable, will be interesting to see if he is dead dead or just shrunk to the quantum zone.

not_vichyssoise · 32 points · Posted at 01:15:57 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think the movies suffers a bit from lack of "show, not tell." We never see Pym and Cross have a mentor/mentee relationship. We only see them after they've had their falling out, so it's hard to see their emotional connection.

Contrast that to Thor/Loki, who are shown being brotherly before they start trying to beat each other up later in the film.

Logiteck77 · 8 points · Posted at 06:04:02 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Agreed, this movie had far too much verbal exposition. More flash backs would have kept it from really slowing down in the middle.

ButchTheKitty · 7 points · Posted at 01:41:40 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think that would have been a great scene to see. Could have put it right near the start around the Shield or Scott Intro.

[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 08:52:12 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

yeah he felt like a genuine psycho, and having someone batshit crazy as Yellowjacket jived well with the original comics.

Flexappeal · 3 points · Posted at 02:07:01 on August 5, 2015 · (Permalink)

hi i'm late

I was so hoping for this to be true and it was. Finally, FINALLY an emphatic, charismatic, unique villain in a Marvel movie that's more than just "because im evil". He had tiny quirks in his character, even his fucking facial expressions were precise and terrifying. Little tics even between words. I'm so pleased. Kind of the only reason I saw this movie (obviously as late as I did) was because I was hoping he'd knock it out of the park.

mistahtogether · 0 points · Posted at 14:03:09 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

I completely disagree.

metal_sensei · 52 points · Posted at 19:56:22 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Rats are easier to breed, mature quickly, are in higher supply, and are easier to maintain. Using a lamb is just inefficient.

[deleted] · 10 points · Posted at 20:16:27 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah that's true from a financial standpoint. But an ethical one?

metal_sensei · 7 points · Posted at 22:52:43 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

From an ethical standpoint, people will feel less bad about testing on rats than they will lambs. Personally, I still feel bad for the rats, but using rodents means getting results easier and cheaper, and with certain types of research that can make all the difference in the lives of humans. Since there really isn't any difference beyond being cost effective with money and time, it just makes the guy look more evil.

[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 22:47:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

lambs are food. rats are not.

[deleted] · 13 points · Posted at 05:55:27 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

So the problem was he was wasting food?

People just didn't like that because lambs are cuter than rats.

twitchedawake · 0 points · Posted at 22:40:44 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Also it was to kinda show his insane behavior. Lack of empathy is a symptom of psychopathy.

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 23:39:44 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's my issue. They used it to show how he was even more of a bad guy, like they needed that after he coldly killed a man. In this instance he was just being rational and Hope was being illogical. If it really is immoral to kill a lamb, then they shouldn't be killing mice either.

twitchedawake · 0 points · Posted at 23:46:41 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Really, man? Youre gonna downvote me because i said its normal for someone to find a baby lamb cuter than a rat? Fine. We arent friends anymore.

And he wasnt trying to kill the goat. He was trying to shrink it.

And its not about logic, you empatheticless ninny, it WAS about the audience thinking the goat was cuter.

WednesdayWolf · 1 points · Posted at 09:21:45 on November 9, 2015 · (Permalink)

I've eaten rat. It wasn't terrible.

Redblud · 1 points · Posted at 21:31:51 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I mean, I have pet sheep that know their name and can recognize me versus someone else they see. I never met a mouse like that. Intelligence is the factor that makes it ethical.

Hemingway92 · 1 points · Posted at 17:32:44 on July 30, 2015 · (Permalink)

Mice are actually pretty intelligent. That's one of the reasons they're used in a lot of maze experiments.

bluthscottgeorge · 1 points · Posted at 11:40:44 on November 9, 2015 · (Permalink)

Erm, loads of people have mice as pets and they are quite smart. On other note, pigs are also just as intelligent as dogs.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:44:09 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

People weren't going "awww" in the theater when they brought in the lamb because they were thinking about all the wasted resources.

dsiluiel · 1 points · Posted at 22:42:37 on August 15, 2015 · (Permalink)

Plus lamb meat.

rentonwong · 26 points · Posted at 16:06:54 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Disney didn't like the idea of killing mice.

Emmash · 7 points · Posted at 00:51:24 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Disney hires professionals to kill mice: http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/stories/disneyland-feral-cats-rule (Okay, not hires. But they do have a team with a special skill set.)

rentonwong · 2 points · Posted at 04:09:56 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Theme park different from movies

your_mind_aches · 33 points · Posted at 17:54:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

We say that and yet still we eat them just the same.

[deleted] · 47 points · Posted at 06:48:16 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

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your_mind_aches · 8 points · Posted at 06:51:46 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Same... And i do eat lamb. What

archrun · 2 points · Posted at 05:50:47 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

I heard rat tastes like a more tender chicken. Not willing to try though.

[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 17:56:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hey man, I feel bad for the animals but I don't feel that bad.

I'll still enjoy my lamb chops.

your_mind_aches · 2 points · Posted at 18:24:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hey I enjoy my lamb chops too

Fallcious · 1 points · Posted at 04:49:57 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

My girlfriend was sad at the loss of so many chops.

your_mind_aches · 3 points · Posted at 04:58:15 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Sounds like she'd make a good assistant for Darren Cross.

Radulno · 6 points · Posted at 09:01:16 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well they will not say the same after the Rat-Man movie... Come on you know you'll go see it. Because Marvel can do what even they want.

FriedMattato · 6 points · Posted at 15:23:35 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I felt the same. They're both animals, the only difference is the size and arbitrary preconceived notions of "cuteness". If anything, I would personally be more upset with a rat death than a lamb death, but that's just me.

dragonduelistman · 3 points · Posted at 09:42:49 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The carbon footprint of raising a lamb is bigger?

-OrangeLightning4 · 3 points · Posted at 02:41:49 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

These two replies remind me of CinemaSins.

RHFilm · 3 points · Posted at 10:55:31 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I straight-up said "THANK YOU!" out loud after Darren made that comment. I'm sick of people placing arbitrary value on certain animal's lives over others. Obviously domesticated animals are a different matter.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:46:13 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

I CAN'T BELIEVE CHINESE PEOPLE EAT CATS!!!!1!

bites into their bacon beef sandwich

scrantonic1ty · 2 points · Posted at 19:19:13 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

that sure as hell was not the point of the scene.

Actually it wouldn't surprise me if these little subtextual things are often intentional. Good writers (like Edgar Wright, if this scene was his) generally pride themselves on things like this, and have a good understanding of literary devices and tropes.

feyrband · 2 points · Posted at 15:00:56 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I figured it'd be easier to see and work with a shrunken lamb than a shrunken mouse too. Then I thought maybe they'd use pigs instead of a lamb, but whatever.

le_snikelfritz · 1 points · Posted at 09:14:43 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I didn't get why, if they were trying to shrink organic matter, they didn't just use apples or something. Would've been a nice reference to honey I shrunk the kids as well

Redblud · 1 points · Posted at 21:29:37 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

We say that because of intelligence. That's how we tend to rank things. Mice and rats aren't even considered animals in the US from a research or FDA standpoint, so we can do whatever we want to them but you start messing with farm animals and that is the domain of the USDA and you have to keep better track.

source: I work and pharma and also raise sheep.

FalconLorenzo · 1 points · Posted at 22:38:01 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

But also wouldn't a bunch of lambs be way more expensive than a bunch of rats? Terrible business acumen, this guy.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:51:33 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Having a larger animal makes it easier to check results after shrinking.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 22:42:45 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah... it wasn't meant to be logical. It was meant to be a 'Kick the Dog' moment. I let it slide.

WadeK · 1 points · Posted at 13:34:38 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why use living animals at all? If you're just looking for organic material to shrink, wouldn't it make more sense to first try it on plants, then dead rats, then living rats, then human trials if you're REALLY that into it?

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 13:51:33 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

They at least explained that. They didn't have the time, they needed to see results immediately.

WadeK · 0 points · Posted at 14:30:22 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Right. But a lamb is terribly inefficient, expensive and raises ethical questions. If you're using live mice, then keep doing that until it works. The organic composition of a lamb isn't going to tell you a thing that the composition of a mouse wouldn't.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 14:31:37 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was just a Kick The Dog trope. People need to let this go.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 23:49:29 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's not that they used the trope, it's that they used it illogically. If he was killing animals and everyone else was saying "how horrible that he uses live animals for his test" it would make sense, but for some reason a mouse is arbitrarily morally better to kill than a lamb because a lamb is cuter.

This is like having the bad guy actually kick the dog and then having an assistant get mad because he was supposed to kick a cat instead, and thus the movie implies that the guy was bad because of that.

MrGligleglog · 1 points · Posted at 07:38:02 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

Actually Rats are wayyy more closely related to humans in the fact they have similar physiology and reactions to drugs and medicine, where other animals have varying reactions to certian chemicals that wouldn't effect us (dogs and chocolate for example). Rats are used as test subjects usually for this fact, and the fact that while they are smart, they aren't as self aware as chimpanzees or other animals similar to us.

LetsGoChuckTaylor · 1 points · Posted at 04:14:12 on July 31, 2015 · (Permalink)

Because rats are genetically and, for lack of a better word, mechanically, much closer to humans than lambs are. That's why we use rats in most tests, because a rat surviving makes it much more likely for a human to survive.

twitchedawake · 0 points · Posted at 22:38:16 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think it was meant to help push the particles effect on his brain. Lack of empathy is a sign of psychopathy.

tobephair · 3 points · Posted at 23:43:10 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Bring in the next lamb too! Until this bizarre science starts yielding results inexplicably.

Kosko · 2 points · Posted at 15:47:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Evildoers gonna evildo. I agree with your point though, but I'd say the antagonist role is obviously defined is most movies.

MyUshanka · 2 points · Posted at 06:21:34 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wasn't it obvious in his first speech though? The whole "military is fucking awesome, this shit's gonna kill a bunch of people and topple governments" spiel isn't usually the good-guy type of monologue.

adamantium3 · 1 points · Posted at 06:30:31 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thats exactly my point. They hit you over the head with it.

-spartacus- · 1 points · Posted at 00:05:41 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, talk about a sacrificial lamb...

MichaeltheMagician · 1 points · Posted at 05:26:33 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't think they did that to prove he was the bad guy. They did that to show how close they were to finishing the project. We already knew he was the bad guy when he liquified that one guy.

tralilulelo · 26 points · Posted at 03:29:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

And when he succeeded, he flicked it!

blake_brown · 19 points · Posted at 05:06:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, fuck that guy. Seems like his death was very unpleasant though so that's good.

STD-fense · 4 points · Posted at 01:18:10 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The lamb thing made him a baaaaahhhhd guy.

namesrhardtothinkof · 3 points · Posted at 07:59:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was like... They were probably gonna kill and eat that lamb anyways.

crimsomreaper · 3 points · Posted at 12:14:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

*ding

Venomous_Dingo · 3 points · Posted at 13:53:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

For some reason I couldn't stop giggling when they were doing that. And they zoomed in really close on the lamb right before they did it.... As a whole, the movie was awesome and I think a large part of it had to do with how they did the whole thing.

See the adorable lamb? Yeah, you know shit's gonna go south. We're gonna rub your nose in it too! See how adorable his face is! He looks so soft and zap goopy......

Scout_022 · 3 points · Posted at 20:49:27 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was under the impression that he thought that lamb would have gotten shrunk, but the experiment failed.

he used what he knew was a faulty prototype on the guy in the bathroom because he's a murderous psycho and that guy was getting in his way; but I think he legitimately thought the lamb would have been shrunk by that version of the prototype.

Man_Without_Fear · 2 points · Posted at 19:16:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Guess Marvel didn't like the Ant-Lamb Shaun the sheep poster.

rentonwong · 2 points · Posted at 16:06:26 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

serial killers usually start their habits by killing fluffy animals.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 00:36:27 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought the lamb part was retarded as fuck. Evangeline Lily was just "whoa whoa I thought we were going to do this on some ugly ass rats. It's so fucked up that you're going to do it to a cute little lamb instead."

lolroflqwerty · 3 points · Posted at 03:49:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I felt worse for the lamb :(

makkuwata · 1 points · Posted at 18:20:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I am astonished they never made the joke with the lamb. I guess I respect that.

NormalNormalNormal · 1 points · Posted at 06:48:50 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

If you have ever eaten meat it's kind of hard to hate him for killing a lamb.

quarknugget · 1 points · Posted at 08:38:50 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Subject 34c. It was a lamb genocide.

Celebrimbors_Revenge · 1 points · Posted at 00:05:21 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I love how he just had a seemingly unlimited supply of adorable lambs for his test subjects. Nothing has ever been so ludicrously wicked.

blake_brown · 2 points · Posted at 00:17:17 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Haha yeah! Darren Cross seems like a guy who'd be very concerned with the bottom line, yet somehow it's cheaper to experiment on a never-ending stream of lambs rather than mice or something?

rickyphatts · 1 points · Posted at 16:39:46 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

What's the matter kid never had lamb chops?

Sparkvoltage · 89 points · Posted at 03:49:24 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

What made that scene so horrifying was not the fact that the dude was reduced to a small goop of slimey meat but the way Cross cleaned up the mess. Motherfucker nonchalantly used a paper towel and wiped up that poor dude like you and I would clean up a kitchen spill goddamn.

ferrarisnowday · 13 points · Posted at 04:13:43 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

The worst part for me was that the goop was throbbing. The man was still alive in some sense.

CinnaSol · 1 points · Posted at 23:49:55 on July 31, 2015 · (Permalink)

"When I died, they washed me out with a hose"

Reminds me of this poem "The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner"

bluthscottgeorge · 1 points · Posted at 11:45:17 on November 9, 2015 · (Permalink)

The only thing about that scene, was that I wanted a kind of progression to murderer. I mean I guess we, the audience got into the movie late, when shit had already happened, but I would have liked to see Cross become a killer.

Like Green Goblin in Spiderman, The Riddler, etc, all those villains. While I did love him as the villain in this, it just seemed like, "oh this tech guy is suddenly killing people, because greed i guess", the fuck?

It's like if Mark Zuckerberg started killing people who got in his way.

[deleted] · 61 points · Posted at 19:38:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He didn't try to shrink him. He knew the guy would turn to goop. That's the entire reason he focused so much on the tissue in that scene ahead of killing the guy.

namesrhardtothinkof · 30 points · Posted at 08:00:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was the most cold-blooded murder I've seen onscreen in a very, very long time.

bigbluemofo · 17 points · Posted at 07:16:42 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, that was a murder and it added a chilly dimension to the movie. That is a frightening weapon. I'm not sure what's scarier an army of regular sized soldiers with shrink guns or a Yellowjacket army.

aznprd · 10 points · Posted at 00:20:36 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought the exact same thing. The only reason the yellowjacket army is desirable is the infiltration aspect that they have. Otherwise the failed shrink gun would be a horrible weapon to use against anyone.

papabattaglia · 16 points · Posted at 22:52:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The cute little lamb scene traumatized some little kids at the showing I went to. Definitely some heavy handed "he's the bad guy in case you weren't paying attention" shots, but I enjoyed them.

ForeverAgamer91 · 5 points · Posted at 01:16:41 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I mean, in the UK it's rated 12 so if a child under that age gets upset it's really the parents fault lol.

dehehn · 1 points · Posted at 21:44:02 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, not sure who didn't know he was the villain after his first line of dialogue in the movie...

TheGeekVault · 12 points · Posted at 13:19:55 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

As I was watching the movie I realized Yellowjacket did more harm than Ultron and had a way cooler voice in the suit.

argusromblei · 5 points · Posted at 15:10:17 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Because ultron was a fucking let down

dehehn · 5 points · Posted at 21:45:18 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

How did he do more harm than Ultron? All the lambs he killed?

lord_coppler · 3 points · Posted at 00:54:19 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wait what, he did more harm than Ultron in the movie? Or are you talking about the potential harm Yellowjacket could have done?

Echo_of_Snac · 4 points · Posted at 10:37:58 on August 16, 2015 · (Permalink)

No! The Battle of the Play Table was far more harmful than picking up an entire city and almost dropping it on the earth!

JakkuScavenger · 20 points · Posted at 21:39:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Some people in my theater laughed. I was like what the fuck? Why are you laughing? That guy just died! What's wrong with you, people?

ZeroCitizen · 10 points · Posted at 18:31:10 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I laughed because it was so completely put of left field. "Goodbye Frank." flushes Frank down the toilet

It's kind of like one of the only DBZ episodes I've ever watched, where Super Buu kills Chi-Chi: "Do you like eggs?"

rebooked · 1 points · Posted at 07:58:27 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

I laughed because it's just such a stupid scene. So the CEO (or whatever he is) of a huge corporation just goes around murdering people where there are lots of witnesses seeing him go into a room with the victim, and then come out alone? And this is someone who is apparently important enough to be invited to an exclusive unveiling at the company, he's definitely going to be missed. And yet the incident just never gets mentioned again?

It wouldn't be a big deal if the world had been established as a crapsack place where powerful businessmen can go around murdering people in broad daylight and get away with it, but there's no indication in Ant-Man that this is the case.

9me123 · 0 points · Posted at 01:56:52 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

People in theaters laugh at the worst things.

SeanCanary · 5 points · Posted at 21:39:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was bad, but I felt worse for the lambs.

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 10:00:52 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

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twitchedawake · 10 points · Posted at 22:49:39 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thats what kinda bugged me. Lang shrinks in the tub, and when he falls cracks the floor panel and the drywall on the floor below, but can ride on a record player.

blitzbom · 2 points · Posted at 19:21:59 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was an extra absorbent paper towel.

HardcoreHazza · 12 points · Posted at 03:21:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

When Cross when in Hym's house, I was expecting him to successfully shrink Hym instead of turning anyone or any failed experiment to a bloody goop.

KingOfAwesometonia · 9 points · Posted at 06:58:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hym is a weird auto correct for Pym. I assume auto correct because you did it twice.

HardcoreHazza · 7 points · Posted at 08:11:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Actually I typed that on a computer. I must of combined the character's name Hank and Pym lol.

KingOfAwesometonia · 3 points · Posted at 08:31:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Meh easy mistake. Just pointing it out because writing it twice was funny to me.

coolgaara · 2 points · Posted at 19:04:35 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

He learned from the best.

rentonwong · 2 points · Posted at 16:05:56 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Killing the cute and fluffy lamb was more horrifying.

soulbreaker1418 · 1 points · Posted at 16:07:32 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

shocking to se that so out of nowhere

ShadonxFC · 1 points · Posted at 21:08:27 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's actually a plothole, how is it that his family and co workers didn't notice that he suddenly disappeared after a day or two? I guess literally nobody cares about Frank. Poor Frank.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:13:09 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Didn't he work for SHIELD?

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:55:05 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Knowing the MCU, that guy isn't really dead

shmameron · 3 points · Posted at 17:08:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I laughed so hard, that shit was fucking hilarious!

FalconLorenzo · 1 points · Posted at 22:36:07 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

There was an extraordinarily loud father and son behind me today in the theatre. Kid was LOUDLY asking real dumb questions the entire time (like, the very first scene he's yelling "but what about ant man!?!!"). That happened and the kid was like "what was that?!" And his dad, also very loudly, just said "it was poop."

Then the kid exclaimed "it was poOOOOP?!?!?!?" And then kept saying "poop poop poop" for like a solid minute.

So rude and obnoxious but I almost lost it.

For those wondering, the dad sounded like he was sifting through a box of Legos trying to eat his popcorn, and he kid kept on slurping out of an empty cup for, no exaggeration, the entire second half of the movie.

Will have to go see it again, I guess.

_Insert_Name_ · 2 points · Posted at 07:35:27 on December 4, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know this thread is very old but I feel like I need to acknowledge how crazy frustrating that would be.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 01:54:40 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

That scene where Cross tries to shrink the guy in the bathroom and the guy just turns into a small puddle of bloody goop was fucking horrifying.

I don't understand this comment? The marvel comics were never very child oriented, pretty bloody and adult. Did you want more of a kids movie or something?

RATMRJ · 1282 points · Posted at 16:44:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

" Scotty needs us! Ain't nothing gonna stop us! Ain't nothing!"

police everywhere*

" ... Back it up. Just back up it. Yup. Back it up"

joeyvesh13 · 324 points · Posted at 21:53:28 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Peña really did steal this movie.

MrLaughter · 31 points · Posted at 02:24:44 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Maybe so good that he'll steal two movies!

itstheshirt · 6 points · Posted at 13:00:01 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

i was thinking the same thing on my way out of the theater! it's nice to know that guy's got some solid comedic chops

bluthscottgeorge · 2 points · Posted at 11:32:36 on November 9, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wood Harris was underused and tbh so was Bobby Cannavale.

thosearecoolbeans · 654 points · Posted at 05:50:19 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Lingering an extra 5 seconds made that scene go from good to great

WaveBird · 21 points · Posted at 04:01:00 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Obviously a lot agree but I actually thought it lasted to long. I love the scene I just thought it would be funnier if it was said once or twice.

BakingBatman · 11 points · Posted at 18:47:00 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

A lot of jokes are really sensitive if you drag it long it will suck. I think it made it better, but it is really on a thin line. For some its good, for some, not that much.

[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 05:33:58 on August 16, 2015 · (Permalink)

Imho, it was the contrast from the fast cuts of the action scenes that really made this scene hilarious

vandamage2112 · 11 points · Posted at 13:47:01 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Please someone find the quote's from Michael Pena .....Something about he didn't like Red's (wine) but thankfully they had Rose and thankfully that helped him out...God trying to remember all the quotes from him. He really stole the show!

Tangocan · 12 points · Posted at 19:06:01 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

The line about attending an expressionist museum but being more of a neo-cubist guy... loved it

vandamage2112 · 2 points · Posted at 13:16:26 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yea that was just perfect LoL

iamjohnmalkovich · 1863 points · Posted at 04:18:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

BASKIN-ROBBINS ALWAYS FINDS OUT

PM_ME_RED_LIPS · 307 points · Posted at 17:42:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I absolutely fell apart at both of the stories Luis told.

NeverShoutEugene · 904 points · Posted at 13:54:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Back it up

Just keep backing it up

Yep back it up

ThePotatoKing · 154 points · Posted at 04:29:56 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Peña was absolutely the funniest character in the movie, he was the perfect amount of comedic relief.

spate42 · 6 points · Posted at 14:42:46 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I haven't laughed like I did during that scene in awhile

[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 06:49:13 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

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rentonwong · -7 points · Posted at 16:07:39 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

That sounds like an Edgar Wright line

NormalNormalNormal · 2 points · Posted at 00:52:46 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was referencing the security guard reddit idolized a few years ago.

rentonwong · -5 points · Posted at 04:10:47 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes and those lines sound like something Edgar Wright would write for ant man

accioteacup · 2 points · Posted at 21:59:30 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Probably my favorite scene.

starlorde · 135 points · Posted at 15:43:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

BASKIN-ROBBINS DON'T PLAY

shotterken · 166 points · Posted at 14:53:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'll take whatever is hot and fresh!

Tkn412tor · 40 points · Posted at 00:35:30 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Dude

EarnestQuestion · 2 points · Posted at 02:40:42 on July 28, 2015 · (Permalink)

This guy was hilarious. His little scene actually reminded me a lot of this tiny scene Jonah Hill had in the 40 Year Old Virgin. Wouldn't be surprised if he's an upcoming comedian we'll be seeing more of

Maninhartsford · 26 points · Posted at 20:27:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The most "Edgar Wright wrote that" line in the whole film

packersSB50champs · 1 points · Posted at 07:26:02 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought he left antman? Didn't someone else take over?

Maninhartsford · 3 points · Posted at 15:16:49 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes, but they didn't torpedo his script. Adam McCay came in and, in his own words, "beefed up" the action scenes, but there's a ton of lines and moments that are very recognizable as something Edgar Wright wrote

Mutch · 1 points · Posted at 03:23:47 on August 16, 2015 · (Permalink)

The scene was added after Wright left. It was originally chipotle as well but they backed out after reading the script.

karpenterskids · 21 points · Posted at 21:09:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I checked Baskin-Robbins' Facebook page right after the movie came out. Yup, the "Baskin Robbins always finds out" comments are already flooding in.

CallRespiratory · 42 points · Posted at 14:38:21 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

This is the best marketing Baskin-Robbins has had in years.

mdk_777 · 29 points · Posted at 04:27:04 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know that it was just advertising, but the line was so funny I didn't even care.

[deleted] · 20 points · Posted at 05:57:01 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I like this kind of marketing. I knew it was marketing but I didn't care because they made it work with the movie and it was funny as shit.

dabumtsss · 7 points · Posted at 05:53:56 on August 3, 2015 · (Permalink)

Same with the iPhone in the helicopter scene. I feel like the song could've been better, but it was really clever nonetheless.

SandmanAlcatraz · 6 points · Posted at 02:30:45 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I kind of wanted a call-back to this at the end. Like a bunch of guys in suits show up, and we think it's SHIELD, but then it turns out to be Baskin-Robbins.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 03:56:17 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Baskin-Robbins don't play

ContinuumGuy · 2 points · Posted at 19:03:16 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Baskin-Robbins is like the NSA, Santa Claus and Superman combined.

[deleted] · -37 points · Posted at 16:51:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I hated this. The opening scenes were so exposition heavy, to have one scene sponsored by an ice cream brand seemed really poor form when the storytelling was at a critical point. To see people repeating it is really sad. EDIT: It genuinely saddens me that corporations are winning this fight so easily. Imagine Stanley Kubrick allowing Pillsbury to sponsor a scene in The Shining.

DokomoS · 11 points · Posted at 18:44:52 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Apparently they wanted to go with Chipotle initially but Chipotle thought it showed them in a bad light. Jamba Juice was another contender, but they chose BR because the pastel blue and pink is such a huge contrast to the rest of the film's color palette.

[deleted] · 38 points · Posted at 19:49:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did you simply want a made up store? The scene itself was great - funny as hell and established some back story AND future motivation (felons really can't get jobs).

[deleted] · -14 points · Posted at 15:20:28 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

If the scene was better for it, yes. The way Marvel works now, that scene would have been written specifically with sponsorship in mind. Personally, I would prefer the inspiration to be artistic, or practical. Not sponsorship based. Why do you guys think Edgar Wright left the project? You think he'd have fought for Baskin Robbins!?

[deleted] · 19 points · Posted at 16:22:18 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

You mean the same Edgar Wright that has an entire trilogy named after a brand of ice cream?

[deleted] · -10 points · Posted at 19:05:11 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ah touché. Very valid point. I would guess in that case the joke came naturally in the writing of the script - it's actually something he would say - but the latter was far more cynical and perhaps even an attempt to recreate it.

twitchedawake · -2 points · Posted at 22:32:36 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ugh, You're like that kid who wrote a poem in highschool and insisted he understood literature and wanted to be called a poet. I bet you haveplans to write a novel, but its all only in your head right now.

Don't be that guy. Nobody likes that guy.

Youre better than that.

[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 23:20:42 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I suspect you enjoy reading your own comments back to yourself. That one certainly says a lot more about you than it does about me.

twitchedawake · -2 points · Posted at 23:49:01 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yea, i enjoy reading them.

Whats it say about me? Or were you just saying that because it sounded like a clever retort?

[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 06:33:50 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thought so.

Well, you can't possibly know anything about a complete stranger based on a couple of throwaway opinion posts, so that kind of put down is a waste of time. But we do know you like to be unpleasant to total strangers for no reason behind your own self gratification. Which means you come across as a bit of a cunt.

ScaredycatMatt · 10 points · Posted at 22:37:42 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not sure how the scene would've been better if it was Pop's Iced Cream

owiseone23 · 15 points · Posted at 23:23:55 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, if anything, the scene would've been worse. The established corporate entity actually adds to the joke IMO.

Kernath · 10 points · Posted at 00:38:00 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Seriously, I hate bad product placement, and it can kill a movie for me. But that scene? That just gave me a good belly laugh, especially when it cut to him after and he had taken the drink he was offered as severance. I don't think a movie should avoid product placement entirely because, lets face it, you dont go into New York and not see a McDonalds, so why would there not be a single McDonalds in the background of a huge alien invasion in New York?

[deleted] · -10 points · Posted at 01:50:12 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's not the point at all. You're being sold corporate bullshit and more than that, you're lapping it up and repeating the company name. The marketing suits are laughing at you.

[deleted] · -10 points · Posted at 00:34:13 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

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TheGamerTribune · 11 points · Posted at 09:43:47 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Yeah, a line about a brand of ice cream. Totally out of the realm of Edgar Wright's previous work.

Babushka5 · 1633 points · Posted at 01:31:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The eyes and that smirk from Thomas the tank engine were amazing

ribblesquat · 774 points · Posted at 01:50:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm shocked Bobby Cannavale is OK with Cassie keeping a pet giant ant in the house.

wingzero00 · 500 points · Posted at 01:52:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I dont get why the kid isnt traumatised by seeing the ant.

ribblesquat · 1175 points · Posted at 02:02:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Y'know, I don't know if it was intentional but they kind of presage that character trait by showing how much Cassie loves Scott's ugly-ass talking vampire *rabbit doll.

the-great-radsby · 703 points · Posted at 02:35:09 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Cassie is the cutest plot device in the world.

elbenji · 157 points · Posted at 06:46:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well she's gonna be a superhero in her own right

Digshorticulture · 111 points · Posted at 08:22:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Young Avengers confirmed!

ClintonHarvey · 11 points · Posted at 07:46:53 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Avengers: first class

AUGUST_BURNS_REDDIT · 27 points · Posted at 05:01:38 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

It'd be the opposite. Avengers: Kinder-Guardians.

ClintonHarvey · 3 points · Posted at 05:09:09 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

GAWTDAYUM

LittleInfidel · 8 points · Posted at 15:43:42 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

Marvel plans so far ahead that it might even be played by the same actress.

mrshock13 · 5 points · Posted at 21:22:07 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hell, make her an Inhuman so she appears on Shield and can be a Secret Warrior. That'll get her being a hero even sooner!

k8track · 3 points · Posted at 14:21:25 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Power Pack!

WaveBird · 2 points · Posted at 04:11:30 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'd rather Marvel get some Fantastic Four back under their control real soon. Solo movie where they do fantastic things out in space and just have fun? Group movie where Ben is hanging with the Avengers and Reed and Val pop in to help Tony and Bruce with something. Future Franklin cameo? I'd love to see this happening instead of the thing that's about to show up in theaters.

ParadoxWarrior · 1 points · Posted at 01:13:59 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

Look, I got into Power Pack via those young Marvel imprints they put out a few years ago; Marvel Adventures or something like that. So while I'm not a hardcore PP fan, it would be cool to see that on screen. I mean, they're not big-name, they're a group of siblings with powers, and they're able to fit into the MCU, whether it be their traditional origin or the Inhumans way (though I'd prefer traditional).

demosthenes718 · 11 points · Posted at 04:09:25 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Really hope the MCU lasts long enough that we can get Stature.

WadeK · 8 points · Posted at 13:35:41 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

You kidding? They're going to be milking this cow until the world ends - it's making too much money for them to even consider stopping now.

reerg · 3 points · Posted at 22:20:10 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

They can just age the character up, although I kind of want to see that girl kick some ass in 15 years.

SUPERsharpcheddar · 11 points · Posted at 19:49:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I agree. I never realized there was a divide in child actors when they get just a bit too old to be cute. It's like when you become just slightly too self aware or aware of the world around you, then you turn into Anakin from Episode I.

jared555 · 7 points · Posted at 07:39:13 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

During the battle in her room I was half expecting a foot to come down randomly followed by "leave my daddy alone" or similar... Even if it wasn't the actual death it would have been entertaining.

WadeK · 2 points · Posted at 13:36:11 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Do you want a dead child? Because that's how you get a dead child.

jared555 · 3 points · Posted at 13:40:00 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

He tried killing her anyway. Just make it disable the bad guy temporarily, have a touching moment between the dad and daughter when they think he is dead and then start the battle back up.

[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 15:08:38 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wouldn't call her a plot device necessarily. A plot device gas little function except being there, and has no role outside of that specific story. I think she was placed, for a future Marvel film. In the comics, Cassie grows up to be a superhero too. It seems they had cast her and wrote her character with that in mind, so that if they do bring a grown up Cassie in a future Marvel film, the seed is already there for the audience. She's got the attitude, and the tolerance for weirdness - the family connection helps, but even without that she could believably be the child version of a full fledged hero.

[deleted] · 152 points · Posted at 03:34:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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darkd3f3nd3r · 7 points · Posted at 03:18:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can you feel it Mr. Lang?

misplaced_my_pants · 6 points · Posted at 06:01:16 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Link for the lazy.

Didn't know who he was.

your_mind_aches · 3 points · Posted at 17:51:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Haha yeah! I noticed that! It was right after Stan Lee. It was hilarious.

2009-237 · 2 points · Posted at 07:46:36 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Tom Kenny

According to IMDB The doll's name is the Hideous Rabbit

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 21:57:08 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Cassie was pretty nonplussed by the whole final act. Bad ass little girl.

ribblesquat · 3 points · Posted at 04:08:43 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nonplussed means you're taken by surprise and unsure what to do. Not sure that's what you meant.

[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 04:25:01 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)*

No, it is. I guess i shouldn't be surprised that someone that uses the word 'presage' wouldn't be familiar with the informal definition of nonplussed.

Edit: I hope that did not come off like I was being defensive. My point was that someone who uses a word like presage probably doesn't use a whole lot of informal language.

Slickrickkk · 2 points · Posted at 04:51:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was intentional. This is film.

RubberDong · 1 points · Posted at 22:36:04 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why was that doll so ugly? Did he make it in jail out of turds or something?

botched_rest_hold · 549 points · Posted at 02:43:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The kid loving that creepy as fuck toy from her dad established her as a weird kid.

I was honestly surprised by her acting. It was the most genuine child acting I've seen in a very long time.

PraisedBeHelix · 153 points · Posted at 11:29:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, she was one of the best parts of the movie, surprisingly. And I really liked the rest of the movie.

elbenji · 19 points · Posted at 13:22:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I mean. The kid's gonna turn into a superhero too so makes sense

AkaBBaka · 15 points · Posted at 05:20:21 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was actually thinking that: "Yep, that kid's definitely got the chops to become a superhero when she's older".

From my vague memories from early 90s comics young (before she was aged up) Cassie was always a bit unphased by weirdness.

elbenji · 20 points · Posted at 12:56:35 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yup. Her whole deal is that she already grew up so much into the weird shit that she basically wants her hand in it too. She was basically raised by the Avengers, whether they liked to think so or not.

elbenji · 5 points · Posted at 13:22:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I mean. The kid's gonna turn into a superhero too so makes sense

foolsgold64 · 6 points · Posted at 17:51:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

She's great on The Whispers too.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 15:04:12 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, she was surprisingly good! Like at first she seemed to just be a plot device (so who cares what kid plays her right?), but now I want more Cassie!

AstralFinish · 3 points · Posted at 02:10:42 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think it established the kind of close bond he has with her. He knows what she likes. Where you get those, though..

Ratava · 3 points · Posted at 23:50:21 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

She's also on The Whispers, a surprisingly fun summer show that airs its finale tonight. She's alternately super-adorable, and when she needs to be, fucking horrifyingly creepy.

Abby Ryder Fortson. I bet we see a lot more from her.

botched_rest_hold · -5 points · Posted at 23:51:14 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fuck off.

Ratava · 4 points · Posted at 10:24:24 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

...sorry?

Hylian49 · 2 points · Posted at 21:42:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

She was adorable! Loved her.

Flexappeal · 2 points · Posted at 02:07:46 on August 5, 2015 · (Permalink)

yeah I agree, like perfect kid acting but really really funny in a genuine way.

botched_rest_hold · -5 points · Posted at 02:13:40 on August 5, 2015 · (Permalink)

Are you fucking serious?

Look at the date my comment was posted.

Flexappeal · 4 points · Posted at 02:28:43 on August 5, 2015 · (Permalink)

lol why are you fucking mad

sorry I just saw the film now and am reading about it now

fucking lmfao

GoorillaInTheRing · 0 points · Posted at 06:13:53 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

She's awesome in The Whispers too, if you get a chance to watch it.

I wonder how many times you've gotten this comment?

soulbreaker1418 · -1 points · Posted at 16:06:52 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

that´s a good point, why is it so hard to direct kids well? not only is if they know how to act or not, but when they don´t do it well are annoying as hell

botched_rest_hold · 1 points · Posted at 16:11:46 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

` != '

LiteraryBoner · 136 points · Posted at 02:07:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Or traumatized by watching a grown man get crushed to death by his insect suit in her bedroom.

shounenwrath · 23 points · Posted at 07:33:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know I'd have nightmares for weeks if someone like the yellowjacket invaded my room in the middle of the night.

humanbeingarobot · 27 points · Posted at 08:40:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Weeks? Seeing what she saw will probably strongly affect her for the rest of her life. Her Dad (eventually) becoming an Avenger and the giant ant for a pet will just solidify those issues even further.

elbenji · 15 points · Posted at 13:22:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Look up Cassie Lang. You have a point

AstralFinish · 1 points · Posted at 02:12:22 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'd be more confused. lol

legendariusss · 130 points · Posted at 02:08:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

She seemed to like weird ass things. Like her B'day present. Clearly her dad knows her well

FalconLorenzo · 4 points · Posted at 22:31:18 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

There was one scene where her room was filled with some creepy ass toys…

[deleted] · 13 points · Posted at 05:52:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Between the alien invasions, magic Nazi insurrections, sentient robot uprisings, more alien invasions, and general super villainy I think it's safe to say that people have thicker skins

karpenterskids · 8 points · Posted at 21:08:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

IT'S SO UGLY!!! I loveeeee it!

Scout_022 · 2 points · Posted at 20:51:24 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't get how the ant can exist. I was under the impression that an ant that size would collapse under it's own weight. something about the law of squares, or something.

twitchedawake · 3 points · Posted at 23:08:08 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

The same way that the humans can exist is the shrunk down/subatomic form. The pym particles are in effect. The whole thing about ants not functioning that big are based around our current concept of physics, and the pym particles said they decrease density and the spaces between atoms, so it makes sense that the ant that size would actually be less dense that an normal ant size, so then that whole, what, 1X4X8 rule thing might not hold true.

tinyweinr · 2 points · Posted at 20:56:14 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

She apparently enjoys creepy, ugly things.

HardcoreHazza · 1 points · Posted at 03:11:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Szalinskis & Thompsons kids are ok with riding an ride.

lonesomerhodes · 1 points · Posted at 03:34:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

All these damn kids aint never seen a Honey movie. Smdh.

botanyisfun · 1 points · Posted at 22:59:01 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

After the whole Yelowjacket thing and her dad being able to change his size practically at will the big ant may be a blip on the radar of potential causes for therapy.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:57:33 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's almost a 90's movie thing, I appreciated the hell out of it. Kids for some reason in all those old movies would either be afraid of things at first and adjust, or immediately adopt them as pets. Ant-Man sort of made me think of the 90's adventure flicks for some reason.

Biff_Tannenator · 1 points · Posted at 03:35:25 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

Dude... most kids are fearless. Unless an adult "tips them off" that a spider is not something to poke with your fingers, they'll go all day long looking for the brightest colored [poisonous] incest to trap in a cup.

LittleInfidel · 1 points · Posted at 15:42:54 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

She's a little weirdo. That's pretty much established when she calls the birthday gift ugly and then says "I LOVE him!!!"

rentonwong · 2 points · Posted at 15:56:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's a reference to "Honey I Shrunk the Kids" when the kids adopted a pet ant?

superfastgrizzle · 1 points · Posted at 03:37:06 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Them! (1954)

Amarite?

xDRxJoKeRx · 1 points · Posted at 06:15:38 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's not a giant pet ant it's just an ugly ass dog

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:14:30 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well Gyp is pretty goddamn crazy.

McMqsmith · 219 points · Posted at 02:10:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

VFX Production confirmed as Skyrim modders

TheHandyman1 · 39 points · Posted at 06:53:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Speaking of effects, is it just me or did Yellowjacket's lasers sound like Star Wars blasters?

McMqsmith · 23 points · Posted at 16:15:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

My friend actually leaned over and asked me that. Disney knows what we want.

TheHandyman1 · 3 points · Posted at 16:17:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I didn't want that :/

stellardrv · 10 points · Posted at 10:55:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

yes! I thought I was going insane because no one else noticed it in my family

AkaBBaka · 5 points · Posted at 05:22:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, there was one shot especially in the bedroom where it was really noticeably similar in sound

orphenshadow · 5 points · Posted at 15:37:13 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Every shot was using blaster sound effects. It was beyond obvious.

tehrand0mz · 2 points · Posted at 20:22:40 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

IIRC from the credits, ILM did do the effects. Then again ILM does effects for a ton of movies.

ZeroCitizen · 1 points · Posted at 18:26:55 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes, I definitely heard that too.

TheTroglodite · 1 points · Posted at 13:35:14 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

They were probably the same sound. Disney does own both.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:30:41 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I can't see how that wasn't intentional.

BlackFireXSamin · 55 points · Posted at 01:54:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

And what was with that dog? Freaky-looking and whatnot, running around the scene.

helgh4st · 5 points · Posted at 02:33:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Me and my gf laughed at that part cuz it reminded us of this..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yNaTZV8qS1I

wingzero00 · 31 points · Posted at 01:47:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I dont what it was about that scene, but i couldnt stop laughing.

TheGogginator · 61 points · Posted at 01:49:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think it is fairly obvious what it was about that scene that kept you laughing.

Babushka5 · 46 points · Posted at 01:56:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fucking Thomas knew what he was doing and he still wrecked that car. Smug bitch

Minifig81 · 8 points · Posted at 02:02:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh he knew alright.. he knew.

readingsteinerZ · 3 points · Posted at 06:35:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKER!!!

raofblow290 · 2 points · Posted at 21:53:25 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

the whole movie was amazing

Hammerosu · 4 points · Posted at 12:59:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If Ant-man's mass stays constant as he shrinks wouldn't Thomas be constrained to the same laws? If this is the case wouldn't huge Thomas have been the same mass as it was initially? Then how did he fall through the house?

Basically what I'm saying is huge Thomas the tank engines can't melt steel beams.

Ollin1 · 11 points · Posted at 00:23:32 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

When you try to apply logic to Antman.

AkaBBaka · 1 points · Posted at 05:25:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, the comic book explanation is that extra mass is shunted from another dimension when you start growing beyond your regular size. That's how the Giant Man/Goliath/Atlas characters pym-related growing powers are dealt with.

salazario · 1 points · Posted at 05:37:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

🌝

mutually_awkward · 1 points · Posted at 07:19:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Choo Choo motherfucker.

spoilersweetie · 1 points · Posted at 11:58:15 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

But ... if Antman's atoms are compressed / the distance between them reduced, and he maintains the force of a 200 lb man's punch when small is he like super dense?

In that case what about Thomas the tank engine. That can't have weighed much and it got expanded to ...well, the size of a real train. How could it have smashed a hole through the wall?

darthgallion · 1 points · Posted at 13:27:57 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I love Thomas the tank engine lol

the-great-radsby · 1031 points · Posted at 03:01:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

As tiresome as some people may find fakeout deaths in the MCU, I'm actually really glad that Michael Douglas survived

"Hey Scott?"

"Yeah?"

"You're full of shit."

REALLY hope we get to see more of him in future films.

sugar_free_haribo · 492 points · Posted at 18:31:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

How's retirement?

How's your face?

igotopotsdam · 413 points · Posted at 13:25:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I want to see him and Tony go at it in a battle of wits.

the-great-radsby · 404 points · Posted at 17:11:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That ends with him breaking Tony's nose

lumberzach316 · 256 points · Posted at 21:19:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I just want Pym punching people in the face for 2 hours for Ant-man 2.

Arkadii · 43 points · Posted at 17:57:52 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, if they bring back Janet, then they definitely will.

RobaBobaLoba · 15 points · Posted at 00:32:47 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ha-ha abuse

elkab0ng · 5 points · Posted at 04:14:05 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Two tickets, please. Punching.

Bromleyisms · 5 points · Posted at 05:51:00 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm so happy they let Michael Douglas let out the Gekko at some points. The menace in the few tense moments where he let the animal loose was a good reference to Hank Pym's comic book portrayal without making him an indefensible asshole.

igotopotsdam · 5 points · Posted at 18:50:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Would be amazing

[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 20:13:16 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

So THAT'S what happened to RDJ on the set of Civil War...

heyman0 · 0 points · Posted at 19:55:14 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Good thing Janet wasn't still with Hank. He would've broken her nose too. (comic book reference)

Elementium · 8 points · Posted at 03:55:00 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Definitely and I think he's probably smarter than Tony.. Now that Ironman is put into perspective.. it is just a suit of armor that shoots lasers, GotG have nanotech.. I think Starks world is going to come crashing down on him at some point.

AkaBBaka · 23 points · Posted at 05:33:59 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's really the power supply (its size to power output ratio, specifically) that's revolutionary rather than the weaponry of Stark's designs.

Clayh5 · 4 points · Posted at 02:05:24 on August 4, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well obviously Cross was able to come up with something similar cause that Yellowjacket suit was crazy powerful

cubenori · 2 points · Posted at 14:49:34 on November 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know it's like 3 months late, but I just watched the movie I'm reading through this thread.

Cross literally has a device that shrinks shit. I don't think making small power supplies was a problem for him.

UVladBro · 13 points · Posted at 07:59:40 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure that happened at one point in the comics. Guardians show up and Rocket starts laughing at how pathetic Stark's tech is.

I think one of the things that blew Stark's mind was a universal translator. Stark was amazed and Rocket was like, "Oh you mean those old things?"

PartiesLikeIts1999 · 4 points · Posted at 01:03:28 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure they'll be anti-reg, I know in the comics Hank was pro-reg, but it just doesn't fit his or Scott's character to go along with it.

It'll be a nice change up if so, not sure if we'll see Giant-man/Goliath though, but that'd be cool, we haven't had a chance to see a character of that scale. The largest living being we've seen so far are the Leviathans, but I think Scott's giant form would be taller than their length.

anyways, the point of my comment is that Hank would be against Tony.

twitchedawake · 3 points · Posted at 00:29:54 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Well the end-credits confirms Ant Man will be in the Civil War, the fact that Falcon and Capt. were the ones who thought of him probably indicate hes on Cap's side, and the whole ending scene with the Rebigulator being added to the Regulator so he could grow from the subatomic world makes it seem pretty cromulant that Scott can grow now and will be on the anti-reg sode

PartiesLikeIts1999 · 2 points · Posted at 00:40:10 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know this sounds a bit rude, but "I know a guy" doesn't really confirm anything. Although it's most likely who they're referring to, we don't 100% know that for sure.

Shaxys · 4 points · Posted at 14:51:41 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

"I know a guy" and then immediately "Ant-man will be back"

PartiesLikeIts1999 · 0 points · Posted at 16:14:16 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Howard the duck shows up at the end of Guardians and it's followed by The Guardians will be back blah blah blah. Are you saying Howard the Duck is confirmed to be one in the next movie?

Shaxys · 5 points · Posted at 16:29:34 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

It doesn't say "Howard the Duck will be back", does it?

Besides, who else is it plausible that Falcon "knows"?

Spiderman isn't even introduced yet to the MCU, but he had a fight with Ant-man.

PartiesLikeIts1999 · 1 points · Posted at 16:52:56 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

It doesn't say that, but he's the one in the scene, so according to your logic, he's directly involved.

The scene at the end implies it, but it doesn't confirm anything. That was my point, but you're approaching this like I said you were wrong.

Shaxys · 1 points · Posted at 17:09:13 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

I didn't say anything that implied someone being in a scene would mean he/she would be in the next movie. I said that since Falcon says "I know a guy" and it then immediately phases out to "Ant-man will be back", it's pretty much confirmed. Howard the Duck is not even remotely the same, he's in a scene, sure, but nobody says "I know a guy" or "Howard the Duck will be back".

PartiesLikeIts1999 · 2 points · Posted at 17:12:54 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

We've reached that point where we're just going to repeat ourselves.

It's only heavily implied that he'll be back

If you wanna think that's a confirmation, go for it.

But I'd rather not go through this loop over and over

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:26:30 on August 9, 2015 · (Permalink)

Rebigulator cromulant

2 Simpsons references in one go, noice.

twitchedawake · 2 points · Posted at 03:44:39 on August 9, 2015 · (Permalink)

I like to think that those size-changing shuriken are actually called rebigulators and debigulators, from that tree house of horrors episode

ITGuyAZ · 3 points · Posted at 06:21:18 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

That is the first thing I thought of when they officially cast Paul Rudd. He's such a great smart ass, and quick. It should be quite entertaining having him and RDJ going back in forth in several movies I hope to come.

batguano1 · 119 points · Posted at 21:59:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I didn't really see that as a fakeout death, they made sure to show that he was shot near his arm/shoulder

twitchedawake · 6 points · Posted at 00:30:24 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought it was in the neck during the struggle.

ShelfDiver · 1 points · Posted at 21:03:41 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah I wasn't sure if he was shot in the chest and he even did the head down death thing for a sec. Then they showed it was more right shouldery area.

Collier1505 · 27 points · Posted at 13:16:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"You're full of shit."

"Yup."

PraisedBeHelix · 12 points · Posted at 11:59:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, Michael Douglas as Hank Pym was great

[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 01:04:58 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really liked the fact that they didn't go with the solemn death. Instead Hank Pym was like, "Fuck that, Tank keychain." And they blew away the trope before it happened. Love it.

brintnall12 · 2 points · Posted at 08:31:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

^{^{^{^I}}} ^{^{^{^know}}}

JavaNewie · 5 points · Posted at 00:47:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm actually really glad that Michael Douglas survived

He was shot in the shoulder. Unless he was in the building explosion, he was going to survive.

the-great-radsby · 22 points · Posted at 04:06:16 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Speaking of that explosion and people who didn't die, Carson, the guy who was the ex-head of shield and was working with Hydra, got away with a vial of Cross' yellowjacket particles.

DUN DUN DUUUNNNN

AkaBBaka · 6 points · Posted at 05:36:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, I wonder if that's a setup for Goliath/Atlas (as he's the only villain besides Yellowjacket that I know of who uses Pym Particles) or if it's for something else.

If it is for Goliath/Atlas, I wonder if they're laying the seeds for a Thunderbolts film in a later phase.

twitchedawake · 3 points · Posted at 00:31:17 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

I hope so, Zemo has already been established and is planned to be a villain later on.

dehehn · 2 points · Posted at 21:55:38 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

I definitely want to see some Ant-Man-Giant Man action. I was thinking that they might take him that route after he altered the suit at the end. Makes sense that they'd hold off on that power though.

jellytrack · 4 points · Posted at 20:20:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Is "shit" the new "bitch"? It seems to be tossed around a lot more on TV and PG-13 movies nowadays.

DokomoS · 6 points · Posted at 18:59:01 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Scott did say asshat. So he kept it toned down for the kids.

[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 18:34:11 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

No he said hat

D-Speak · 4 points · Posted at 05:57:17 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

They were so setting him up for "one last ride." He can't use the suit anymore because of sustained effects? He flat out says no one gets the Pym Particle while he lives? He fucking begged for death in this film.

Honestly, the only reason that he didn't die in this film is so that when they kill him in the sequel, they can spit on him too for being a parent/mentor/father figure in a superhero story and having the audacity to survive the origin story.

However, I hope this opens some interesting scenes between him and Tony, Banner, Fury, and Selvig (who mentioned Hank somewhat in the first Thor).

sorril · 2 points · Posted at 00:50:27 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

yeah he is a great Hank, can't wait for him to do that to Tony and Bruce lol.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 17:43:47 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think one of the things that the movie did best was to set the characters up for future films. By the end, I wasn't all that jazzed about the idea of an Ant Man sequel, but pretty eager to see Scott, Pym, and Hope appear in other movies.

Jusdoc · 2 points · Posted at 03:04:58 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

WOW! I mean, I saw the punch coming a mile away, but WOW!

electron-shock · 1 points · Posted at 23:15:05 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Have they said anything about him in Civil War?

Flexappeal · 1 points · Posted at 02:11:25 on August 5, 2015 · (Permalink)

I usually find Michael Douglas kind of...idk. His very distinguishable voice and relatively consistent mannerisms make him stick out instead of becoming his character. But I liked him in this. Very good comedic timing.

Ijustwantahotpocket · 2512 points · Posted at 01:33:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

RIP Antony :"(

BournGamer · 822 points · Posted at 01:45:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If they didn't show him die he ain't dead. We know he lost a wing but what's a wing to an ant amirite?

fuckitiamhonest · 1109 points · Posted at 01:47:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Antony better be in the next season of Agents of SHIELD.

BournGamer · 366 points · Posted at 01:50:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The six million dollar ant

Minifig81 · 257 points · Posted at 02:00:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

We can rebuild him... ~~Stark~~ Pym has the technology.

Expired_Bacon · 16 points · Posted at 02:02:27 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Antony will return in Marvel's Agants of Pym!

NanoGeek · 4 points · Posted at 02:26:16 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ant-gents of Pym?

Agants of Pym?

NanoGeek · 69 points · Posted at 02:03:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The cameras aren't high enough resolution to prove he isn't!

#AntonyLives

MavericksFan41 · 5 points · Posted at 04:52:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Secret Warriors are gonna need new recruits after all

Rebound · 5 points · Posted at 08:21:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Welcome to level ANT

SeanCanary · 4 points · Posted at 21:38:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Antony better be in the next season of ~~Agents of SHIELD~~ Game of Thrones

Radulno · 3 points · Posted at 08:51:17 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Antony better be in Avengers Infinity War as the team captain. I'm sure it would be more efficient, no Civil War nonsense with ants.

Tkn412tor · 2 points · Posted at 00:27:31 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Tahiti is a magical place

reece1495 · -2 points · Posted at 04:06:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

whos antony

nagurski03 · 6 points · Posted at 07:44:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The ant that he was always riding.

reece1495 · -11 points · Posted at 08:05:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

JohnnyRoss · 6 points · Posted at 14:57:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

yes

rbarton812 · 5 points · Posted at 14:59:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He named his main flying ant 'Antony'. He says it multiple times.

Ijustwantahotpocket · 147 points · Posted at 01:54:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'd be pretty damn excited if he got a miniature set of falcon's wings

mattcuz83 · 4 points · Posted at 20:52:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Carpenter anys live about 10 weeks. Also he was confirmed dead by Reed on Vulture.

Equeon · 10 points · Posted at 18:04:32 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Some species of carpenter ant workers and soldiers can live as long as 7 years. Antony wasn't a worker, though: he (actually she) was a winged queen, and carpenter ant queens can live longer than 20 years. (Source)

That's a longer life than most dogs. Antony would've gone on to live a long life, producing thousands of children and being responsible for an entire colony, all the while bonding with Scott.

But not any more.

elkab0ng · 3 points · Posted at 04:15:12 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

After beating up and pantsing falcon in front of Stark.

topherthepest · 317 points · Posted at 03:50:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Baskin Robins will find out!

yosayoran · 160 points · Posted at 13:58:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Baskin Robins always finds out

ClintonHarvey · 6 points · Posted at 07:48:04 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Baskin-Robbins don't play

ThisHappenedAgain · 27 points · Posted at 06:26:43 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Baskin Robins will find out!

I like this approach to product placement. Incorporate it into the story and make it funny. Instead of the usually just blatant BAM Coke signs, Coke signs everywhere.

I also liked how I saw a commercial the other night for Yakult with Antman in it and thought it very random. And then the detective who notices Scott isn't in his cell anymore drops his finished bottle of nutritious Yakult on the ground. I thought that was really funny for some reason.

DokomoS · 4 points · Posted at 18:35:57 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's a risky move too. BR gets portrayed as a heartless (yet terrifyingly efficient) corporation that refuses to give felons a second chance.

rageaholic55 · 2 points · Posted at 03:21:11 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wouldn't be surprised if that was an actual company policy. It's actually kind of scary how hard it is for felons to find suitable work. After paying your debt to society you keep paying by getting turned away from employment due to your record. I honestly don't know how more of them don't turn back to criminal activity.

Seymour_Scagnetti · 8 points · Posted at 02:57:16 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Baskin Robbins don't play

tadaoverlord · 3 points · Posted at 04:22:46 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

They always find out

sorril · 3 points · Posted at 08:35:07 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fo real?

edwartica · 3 points · Posted at 22:34:02 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

This is how great this movie is. I totally forgot about that scene - and yet it was such a great scene. The entire movie was full of great scenes.

Elementlegen · 4 points · Posted at 05:34:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

With him losing the wing, he completes the Phase 2 trend of characters losing a hand

iamthegraham · 3 points · Posted at 21:29:10 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

what's a wing to an ant

What's an ant to a god?

What's a god to a hulk?

What's a hulk to an iron monster?

Slickrickkk · 2 points · Posted at 04:50:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Every film/show in face two has someone lose an arm. Yellowjacket lost his arm at the end if that counts, but maybe it's Antony's wing that counts.

PeteOverdrive · 2 points · Posted at 13:45:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ant-Man: The Winter Soldier Ant

upgrade769 · 3 points · Posted at 03:36:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

a bullet hit antony the wing just got knocked off too hes dead :'( sorry

biglineman · 1 points · Posted at 04:16:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He's going to be the villian in Ant-Man 2: Antony's Revenge.

Antony: You could've helped me!! I was merely wounded, but you left me to DIE Lang! The colony abandoned me. With only one winh, I couldn't do my duty to the queen so they banned me from my home. You made me lose my family, and now, I'm gonna make you lose yours!

mattcuz83 · 1 points · Posted at 20:51:47 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Carpenter ants live about 10 weeks.

fullmaltalchemist · 1 points · Posted at 22:27:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

They'll repair his wing and bring him back like Toothless.

tobephair · 1 points · Posted at 23:44:24 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Pym can totally build him a new wing. Cyber ant for the win.

bluthscottgeorge · 1 points · Posted at 11:50:19 on November 9, 2015 · (Permalink)

What's an ant to a bee, what's a bee to a unbee-liever.

Who don't bee-lieve in anything.

We can make it out alive, alright alright.

No Church in the Wild.

Narutofloss · 1 points · Posted at 19:47:36 on November 14, 2015 · (Permalink)

I read this like you're Michael Pena. ...are you Michael Pena?

mr_popcorn · -1 points · Posted at 11:42:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What's a wing to an ant? What's a king to a god? What's a god to a non-believer who don't believe in anything?

Foreveralone42875 · -2 points · Posted at 05:02:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, nothing dies in the Marvel Universe!

[deleted] · 421 points · Posted at 01:57:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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blankedboy · 69 points · Posted at 01:51:24 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think he named all of them (in his head), he calls one Phil and another Lenny later in the movie. That's what makes him different to Hank, they aren't just numbers to him.

[deleted] · 11 points · Posted at 02:02:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

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blankedboy · 10 points · Posted at 04:13:04 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

He definitely named some of the others. I think how he treated the ants was one of the things that made me like the character so much

GoldandBlue · 16 points · Posted at 06:13:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Take an animal or object. Give it a name and humanize it. Kill it and watch kids cry in the theater.

rbarton812 · 12 points · Posted at 15:00:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm 30, and almost cried at that and the sheep that were being shrunk/vaporized.

Minia15 · 1 points · Posted at 03:14:19 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z906aLyP5fg

tetsuo9000 · 4 points · Posted at 06:27:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah that was way too obvious. Kinda made the emotional punch feel awkward.

bagofbeef74 · 3 points · Posted at 02:06:30 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

You named it?! As soon as you name it, you begin to get attached to it!

the-great-radsby · 652 points · Posted at 02:15:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

You're going to regret that

I thought I was worried about Hank when he got shot, but that all went away soon as they showed he wasn't dead and I remembered that almost no one ever dies in Marvel films, least of all Michael Douglas.

AND THEN RIGHT AFTER THAT. FREAKING ANTONY UGH.

Say what you will about the film, but Marvel officially made me get on board with a hero whose motivation going into the final fight was to avenge a pet ant.

apocalypsenowandthen · 430 points · Posted at 09:16:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I mean there was the whole saving his daughter thing but whatevs.

tehawesomedragon · 49 points · Posted at 22:36:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

At least she now has a pet giant ant, I mean dog.

CTID16 · 11 points · Posted at 02:34:57 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can someone explain why the bad guy went to Ant-Man's daughter's room? I must've missed something...

ldnk · 45 points · Posted at 02:58:29 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

To draw him out. He knew who he was and where he lived. Ant-Man/Pym just destroyed all of his research and all he has left is the suit. He was written as a deranged villain who was looking solely for revenge and wanted to kill Lang. The easiest way to draw him out was to go after his daughter.

CTID16 · 6 points · Posted at 03:08:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

That makes sense. Thanks!

ShelfDiver · 3 points · Posted at 21:08:35 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was wondering during the movie why he did it in such a loud boisterous way with all the cops and everyone knowing when he had the perfect stealth suit. This is the correct response. He wanted a showdown and made it abundantly clear what the stakes were.

the_ebb_and_flow_ · 4 points · Posted at 02:08:18 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Tomato tomato

Radulno · -1 points · Posted at 08:52:48 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Who cares about a daughter though ? The ant is obviously way more important.

your_mind_aches · 23 points · Posted at 17:55:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Marvel made me cry over an ant dying.

An ANT.

To be honest, I'm not so surprised considering what they've accomplished before.

rentonwong · 4 points · Posted at 15:42:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Quicksilver kicked the bucket

Thor_2099 · 0 points · Posted at 03:44:28 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

There a lot of deaths id argue in marvel movies. Just not the major deaths which personally im thankful for. I like seeing heroes I like have adventures without worrying "well who do I like that is going to die?" I don't want them to go Pixar on me

katiethered · 1 points · Posted at 00:34:13 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Coulson wasn't a major death? :(

LiteraryBoner · 198 points · Posted at 02:06:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The second he named him I was like that's the casualty. Poor Antony.

FedaykinII · 17 points · Posted at 03:20:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Was he a black ant though?

fuckitiamhonest · 27 points · Posted at 01:45:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was almost as feels inducing as Wilson in Cast Away... :'(

[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 15:15:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

No. I'm sorry but nothing measures up to the feels of Wilson in cast away. Which is fuckin ridiculous because it's a volley ball. But I cry like a bitch every time.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 21:32:09 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not even close.

dehehn · 0 points · Posted at 21:59:00 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, not at all. Honestly I wished the spent a little more time getting you attached to Antony. He did a good job as a steed, but I didn't really feel like there was enough of a bond.

ribblesquat · 5 points · Posted at 03:11:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I am an ant on the wind, watch how I soar!

tISKA · 4 points · Posted at 11:26:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Interesting.

In French the flying Ant is a female and is called Antoinette.

Megaman1981 · 4 points · Posted at 00:38:52 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

That dude had some pretty good aim to be able to hit the one ant that was carrying the dude you were trying to hit.

mr_popcorn · 2 points · Posted at 11:40:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I never thought in my lifetime that I would care for an ant dying. Bravo Marvel.

SilentFilmScreenplay · 2 points · Posted at 12:28:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What is this?! A gravestone for ants?! Yes... Yes, it is... http://imgur.com/jXW6h4B

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 04:14:51 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was a really good shot.

Thrug · 2 points · Posted at 11:48:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ant man needs to be riding an ant with 1 mechanical wing in Civil War.

Mr_bananasham · 1 points · Posted at 04:59:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Maybe she just went to ant-agony, I hear she gives good benefits.

razzeldazle · 1 points · Posted at 07:17:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

This is Marvel, no one really dies

wowy-lied · 1 points · Posted at 08:51:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

For your information : In the French version, the ant was named "Antoinette".

Jaebird0388 · 1 points · Posted at 18:45:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not since Honey I Shrunk the Kids have I felt so sad to see an ant die on screen like that.

SomeRandomGuy305 · 1 points · Posted at 00:28:37 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I've never been angry/sad about the death of an insect until this movie

HandsomeManVoice · 1 points · Posted at 17:10:36 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The subtitles in my cinema had it spelled "Ant-tony".

PondShark · 1 points · Posted at 00:55:13 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

No doubt Antony under the table!!!

Morty_And_Rick · 1 points · Posted at 00:57:42 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's impressive how an ant's death was more relevant to the audience than the main villain's death.

argusromblei · 1 points · Posted at 14:55:39 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

There was a reason Pym numbered them, didn't want to get attached. plus there are millions

PartiesLikeIts1999 · 1 points · Posted at 00:57:14 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

could've sworn he said Antsy

k8track · 1 points · Posted at 14:22:21 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Tip a .00040.

smiles134 · 1 points · Posted at 03:08:48 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Someone in my theatre laughed when the wing landed. Like, what?

bebert · 1 points · Posted at 01:23:52 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

In the French version, its name is "Antoinette", which is a horrible name. Antony is way better!

lllMONKEYlll · 1 points · Posted at 08:24:50 on July 30, 2015 · (Permalink)

:'-(

natonio95 · 986 points · Posted at 04:32:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

"This is the work of gypsies"

black-ra1n54 · 690 points · Posted at 06:53:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Old women survived. threw jewels in the ocean anyway."

rohay · 190 points · Posted at 09:27:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Problem Solved "

Sithsaber · 56 points · Posted at 18:56:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Scarlet Witch already confirmed

Futuramafryday · 84 points · Posted at 06:33:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It took me until the drive home from the theater to realize that dude was the guy two face almost kills when he's trying to get info on Joker

SutterCane · 47 points · Posted at 19:54:07 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

He's got to be the weirdest two company guy. "Oh, he was a crazy henchman in Dark Knight and one of the crew in Ant-man."

parallelTom · 17 points · Posted at 21:55:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

And a a psycho in Prisoners. Surprising to see him play a comedic role.

Denim_cutoffs · 11 points · Posted at 00:59:32 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Is he the maze dude with the snakes?

danubian1 · 4 points · Posted at 09:03:21 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes! Was trying to remember who he was. That's him

kcstrike · 2 points · Posted at 07:24:40 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

wow saw ant man yesterday and prisoners today

ZeroCitizen · 34 points · Posted at 18:39:50 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

OH HOLY SHIT. The Joker decoy in the military parade scene?

mrbrownie · 5 points · Posted at 17:14:53 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yup.

ZeroCitizen · 3 points · Posted at 17:36:33 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's so awesome.

DaTigerMan · 37 points · Posted at 01:57:21 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

"That was some David Copperfield shit!"

BigPappyOO7 · 9 points · Posted at 14:06:43 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

This was my favorite line of the movie. He was genuinely afraid. Ha ha damn this movie was good.

TyPiper93 · 7 points · Posted at 02:37:18 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Am I the only one who thought that guy's Russian accent was a little exaggerated?

[deleted] · 34 points · Posted at 14:07:19 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought he was Romanian :/

AndyPhoenix · 20 points · Posted at 21:26:19 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

When he mentioned gypsies it is almost confirmed he is from the Balkans.

TyPiper93 · 9 points · Posted at 15:05:33 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Eastern European, whatever. I just felt that the accent was forced.

AlekRivard · 5 points · Posted at 09:31:26 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Almost like it wasn't his real accent?

TyPiper93 · -2 points · Posted at 10:48:57 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Of course it wasn't his real accent. And that's not the problem. The problem was that it was so cheesy sounding of an accent. I've met many people from eastern Europe and their accents were similar to that but didn't sound as sharp and stereotypical.

EDIT: Eastern, not Western Europe. -.-

[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 10:50:42 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Better than Queeeekseeeelver in AoU.

pezzshnitsol · 5 points · Posted at 02:17:07 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was expecting Luis to say "It's the work of el diablo" which is something a Mexican would say in that scenario.

But since it wasn't Luis you would expect "It's the work of the devil" but when he said gypsies I lost my freakin mind.

Babushka5 · 972 points · Posted at 01:39:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Tales to astonish reference was a nice Easter egg

Minifig81 · 171 points · Posted at 01:56:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved that line.

HaloBreastz · 136 points · Posted at 03:01:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Comic noob here. What was the reference?

Naly_D · 558 points · Posted at 03:12:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Darren talks about rumours of Ant-Man doing missions in the Cold War era, calling them propaganda and "tales to astonish". Tales to Astonish was the name of the comic where Ant-Man debuted.

Flexappeal · 8 points · Posted at 02:10:28 on August 5, 2015 · (Permalink)

the fuckin writing in this movie i swear

[deleted] · 105 points · Posted at 03:21:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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Kiram · 167 points · Posted at 08:11:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Specifically, for anyone wondering and not terribly familiar with comics history, the big name comic companies back in the day used to put out what were essentially anthology books. These included things like Tales to Astonish, Adventure Comics, Detective Comics, Amazing Fantasy, etc.

These books served to let them try out new things, and if something proved unpopular, they would just drop it. Each comic was maybe 5-6 pages long, and there would be 2-3 comics per issue. When they hit on a particularly popular idea, they would run with it, often having that become the main focus of the title, with B-stories running at the back of the book. Most of the time, these started out as sci-fi, horror or fantasy books, and then slowly turned into superhero books.

Take Journey into Mystery, for example. It started as a horror/fantasy anthology, telling small stories that would run issue to issue. With issue #83, they introduced a feature called "THE MIGHTY THOR". This was, of course, a smash hit, and the smaller sci-fi/fantasy stuff that was running along side it was eventually replaced with "Tales from Asgard" with issue #93. By issue #126, 4 years after they debuted Thor, they dropped the anthology aspect altogether, and it became a straight-up superhero book titled "The Mighty Thor".

Tales to Astonish took a similar route, introducing Hank Pym in the 60s during a 1-shot anthology story, where he shrinks down, and is basically terrorized by ants and bees. A few months later, they went and brought him back as a full-fledged Super Hero. After another 2 years of Ant-Man + Anthology stories, it became a "Split Book", a comic where it's basically 2 different series sharing one book. Ant-Man in one, and another Hank Pym superhero "Giant Man" in the other.

After a while, Ant-Man kind of spectacularly failed to take off, so they turned it into a Hulk/Submariner book, before finally just becoming The Incredible Hulk solo-title a few years later.

Okay, that got a little out of hand with the explanations, but have some comic-book history, on the house.

darth_elevator · 55 points · Posted at 15:06:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Doesn't surprise me that Ant-man would debut in an ant-hology book.

Kiram · 25 points · Posted at 16:52:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ugh. Just... take your upvote and get out of my office.

Mange-Tout · 8 points · Posted at 14:41:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone who wants to learn how the comics industry began should read The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay It may be fictional, but it's a massively entertaining book that tells a factually accurate story of two poor immigrant artists who are obsessed with Houdini and creating comics in the 1930's.

WadeK · 3 points · Posted at 14:03:32 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Probably my favourite book. It'll make you laugh like an idiot, then hide in the corner to ugly-cry. Also it's amazingly accurate about comic book history.

Mange-Tout · 3 points · Posted at 14:07:30 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Basically, it's a fictionalized account of the guys who created Superman. It might as well have been called The Amazing Adventures Of Siegal and Shuster.

Kiram · 1 points · Posted at 17:18:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Huh. Somehow I managed to completely miss this book, despite it being about my favorite thing, and winning a Pulitzer prize. New audiobook for the month, hurrah!

OptimusMine · 1 points · Posted at 18:48:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ah yes that's such a great book. Chabon is a fine writer. Good stuff, very entertaining.

Aardvark218 · 2 points · Posted at 18:35:21 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nerd.

Kiram · 3 points · Posted at 20:59:06 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yep

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 03:32:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

One of the original Marvel comic series was called 'Tales to Astonish' which is the series where Ant-Man first appeared.

argusromblei · 3 points · Posted at 15:41:48 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

this

mastyrwerk · 1 points · Posted at 03:25:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

'Twas the comic Ant-Man first appeared in.

AntManFan · 1 points · Posted at 13:46:31 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Made me smile :-)

coolgaara · 1 points · Posted at 19:06:38 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

May I ask what this is a reference too?

itstheshirt · 2 points · Posted at 13:48:27 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ant-Man debuted in one of the original comic series called Tales to Astonish

shunna75 · 1 points · Posted at 06:19:11 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

So awesome.

Tkn412tor · 0 points · Posted at 00:34:45 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was the only one to get it in my group of friends, so then I was like I'm a nerd, then I was like wait I'm awesome for getting that

SIMULATIONTERMINATED · 291 points · Posted at 06:25:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

20 bucks says Dr Strange can communicate with/bring back Pym's wife.

bledtobefree · 280 points · Posted at 21:17:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Probably why they never showed her face even in the family portrait because they haven't cast the actress yet

RubberDong · 46 points · Posted at 22:44:29 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Probably some milf...I am fine with Zeta Jones.

j_gut57 · 6 points · Posted at 01:49:40 on August 7, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well she is married to Michael Douglas

Asiriya · 16 points · Posted at 14:32:14 on August 16, 2015 · (Permalink)

THATS THE... whatever.

VIsForVoltz2 · 8 points · Posted at 23:16:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Would the pym particles continue to mess with your mind in one state, or is it the transforming that causes it? I think this is an important question, because one ends up with an insane Wasp, the other makes a normal one.

[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 15:27:48 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's shrinking without a helmet on, I thought.

VIsForVoltz2 · 5 points · Posted at 16:32:26 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

The helmet slows it iirc.

tigerslices · 5 points · Posted at 02:48:49 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

but why would they bother to bring her back? hank needs no motivation, as he no longer has a story. his Entire purpose was to keep pym particles out of the hands of badguys. end of story.

to see the wasp? we Have our wasp. except it's van dyne's Daughter. and she looks Great! so our cinematic ant-man and wasp aren't the relics who formed the avengers in the 60s. totally fine.

2x2hands0f00f · 2 points · Posted at 13:40:20 on August 15, 2015 · (Permalink)

If they don't plan to bring her back then it was one hell of an easter egg.

ffffound · 1 points · Posted at 22:05:15 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just in case, she was played by someone, but yeah they'll probably go with another actress. http://www.comicbookmovie.com/ant-man/news/?a=122971

IIGe0II · -21 points · Posted at 23:18:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Uhh, they showed Hank looking at a picture of a middle aged woman.

bledtobefree · 28 points · Posted at 23:36:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Her face was partially obscured

IIGe0II · -26 points · Posted at 09:51:13 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It absolutely was not.

[deleted] · 16 points · Posted at 16:28:54 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

She was wearing a hat over it, it was obscured.

IIGe0II · -15 points · Posted at 16:40:09 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Near the end of the movie Hank was in his study or whatever, holding a framed photo. Speaking to himself, saying it is possible she's alive. It clearly showed the photo as he places it back on the shelf.

partypanda3000 · 21 points · Posted at 06:18:45 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Darren Cross picks up a picture of Hope with longer hair while talking to Hank in his study. Maybe that is what you are thinking of?

[deleted] · 20 points · Posted at 17:53:22 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

They clearly show Pym with Janet and Hope but Janet has a hat over her face.

Lyger101 · 7 points · Posted at 03:01:02 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

I swear that while Scott is shrinking to the subatomic universe there is the shadowy outline of her in the suit. And when Scott is going big again you see it again flash over his helmet.

GoldfishAvenger · 4 points · Posted at 07:19:52 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well she is trapped in a quantum realm and quantum mechanics are how they're going to be describing the magic side of things in the MCU.

Luckygunslinger · 3 points · Posted at 09:57:25 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Pym's wife being played by Tilda Swinton in Dr. Strange would be a huge connection, probably too huge. Wasp getting pulled into the sub-atomic verse and sort of transcending reality makes some sense since Scott sort of had no memory of it. Who knows what prolonged time will bring?

TheMexicanRobot · 1 points · Posted at 21:58:46 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yuuuup

biglineman · 528 points · Posted at 04:17:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The CGI used to make Michael Douglas look 26 years younger was spectacular! For a second I thought that that was his real face!

[deleted] · 67 points · Posted at 13:47:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

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biglineman · 21 points · Posted at 14:07:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was much better than when Tron Legacy tried it.

[deleted] · 38 points · Posted at 14:11:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

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biglineman · 7 points · Posted at 14:27:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

A fair, point. We've already seen how well it works on aging actors. It's amazing how far we've come in such little time.

Thespus · 20 points · Posted at 03:39:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

A fair, point. ^A ^fair, ^point. ^{^A} ^{^fair,} ^{^point.} ^{^{^{^A}}} ^{^{^{^fair,}}} ^{^{^{^point.}}}

This will haunt my dreams...

[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 11:34:09 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's the way redditors seem to say "I agree, but would like to add..." it's a very popular phrase on this site.

rhodetolove · 10 points · Posted at 22:03:45 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Pretty sure he's referring to the comma

RiverTam · 2 points · Posted at 03:51:01 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

TiberiCorneli · 1 points · Posted at 03:49:39 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Imagine what they could do with this and the way they spliced Brando in Superman Returns & Olivier in Sky Captain.

EarnestQuestion · 1 points · Posted at 03:24:55 on July 28, 2015 · (Permalink)

I felt like even X3 did the de-aging better than Tron though

SutterCane · 21 points · Posted at 19:14:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Honestly. I enjoyed Tron Legacy, but this is the first time I've seen CGI de-aging actually work and look like the person used to and not some robot that had the person's skin stretched across its face.

Impeesa_ · 7 points · Posted at 23:58:34 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

some robot that had the person's skin stretched across its face.

So the new Terminator uses the technique to good effect too?

SutterCane · 6 points · Posted at 00:00:18 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hah. That's a good one. But no, I haven't checked out the new Terminator yet. That one is definitely a cable watch movie.

WadeK · 4 points · Posted at 14:24:57 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I dunno if I'd recommend seeing it in theaters, but I found it kind of enjoyable. Definitely more fun if you love Terminator 1 and 2 though.

But yeah, the CGI to make Arnie look younger (and then older) are PHENOMENAL. Absolutely out of this fucking world.

Quad9363 · 2 points · Posted at 03:37:05 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah I've heard it said it's like a Terminator Fan-fiction, so it makes sense that most of the die-hard terminator fans really like it (they might even read terminator fan-fictions), and more casual fans find it meh.

pegbiter · 2 points · Posted at 08:50:14 on August 6, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's just like fan-fiction in that it endlessly references stuff you remember and love, and then proceeds to shit all over it with its own terrible dialogue and awful plot.

Megaman1981 · 2 points · Posted at 00:31:07 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

They made a young Arnold in Terminator Salvation, and it was more like Tron's Jeff Bridges. In Terminator Genisys, it was improved a lot, and actually looked like young Arnold.

biglineman · 8 points · Posted at 21:33:23 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I didn't say that I didn't like Tron: Legacy. I was bummed when Disney killed Tron 3.

SutterCane · 4 points · Posted at 22:06:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wasn't saying you didn't. I was just saying that I did enjoy Tron Legacy but can admit that the de-aging CGi was nowhere near as great as the kind in Ant-man.

Steellonewolf77 · 9 points · Posted at 23:16:29 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was CGI? I thought it was just really good make-up work.

ShelfDiver · 1 points · Posted at 21:10:26 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yup, they prolly touched up here and there but for the most part in the closeups that had to be just really good makeup.

rentonwong · 11 points · Posted at 16:32:27 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

They had remastered footage of his days making movies such as "Wall Street" and those "Romancing the Stone" series of films.

So it is less complicated to de-age him to his late 80s self when compared to Jeff Bridges. Also helped that the VFX improved since Tron 2 and Michael Douglas' bone structure and appearance didn't change too much.

snarkamedes · 2 points · Posted at 15:00:13 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Another Jack T. Colton/Joan Wiiiiilder movie when?

idiotdidntdoit · 2 points · Posted at 17:13:41 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

i was excited to see young michael douglas again. was kind of incredible. looked TOTALLY like him! I want to see an Ant-Man movie, with young michael douglas now!

Buttagood4you · 1 points · Posted at 06:11:06 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wait it wasn't?! You talking about the scene in the beginning

dtsyk · 1 points · Posted at 09:33:40 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

Damn. That was CGI?

NomNomVerse · 1 points · Posted at 04:55:47 on November 8, 2015 · (Permalink)

If Marvel's CGI folks can shrink Chris Evans into a little 12-year-old boy's body, they can do ANYTHING. Though the aging didn't look as good as the de-aging.

Babushka5 · 1453 points · Posted at 01:31:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Pym is almost as obsessed with the formula as Mr Krabs

ribblesquat · 865 points · Posted at 02:18:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved that Michael Douglas was a crucial, driving element in the film. When I heard Ant-Man would be Scott Lang I thought Hank Pym might be a tacked on afterthought. Nope he was integral and had great one-liners. "Not those three wombats!" "It's not a keychain."

LiteraryBoner · 396 points · Posted at 03:06:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was having a lot of fun imagining young Michael Douglas in his own Avengers movie. Kicking ass during Vietnam as Ant Man. He would be a cool as fuck super hero. Maybe him and Fury can dance the Tango while the young bucks do Civil War.

ChewbaccalypseNow · 159 points · Posted at 03:42:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

SUPER KICK PARTY!

E_FOGEY · 17 points · Posted at 05:19:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Dear god it never stops

ChewbaccalypseNow · 13 points · Posted at 05:27:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

This better make the r/squaredcircle crossover bestof thread.

NefariousNeezy · 4 points · Posted at 20:24:24 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

We're leaking again.

[deleted] · 12 points · Posted at 18:54:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Young Bucks confirmed for Civil War?

ChewbaccalypseNow · 6 points · Posted at 19:18:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They should name the WWE x NJPW crossover event: Civil War

blueskidoowecantoo · 4 points · Posted at 06:15:38 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

How did the Young Bucks get in this mix?

ChewbaccalypseNow · 7 points · Posted at 06:30:57 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

They didn't wait for opportunity to knock. They superkicked the door in.

ZeframCochrane- · 2 points · Posted at 01:53:39 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK!

adunn13 · 18 points · Posted at 05:10:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

ABC's Ant-Man and Wasp?

PraisedBeHelix · 5 points · Posted at 11:33:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That would be amazing.

mr_popcorn · 8 points · Posted at 11:51:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's what I was thinking the whole time. Hank and Janet as OG Ant-Man and The Wasp kicking ass in the 70s and 80s. They set it up perfectly, a stand alone prequel or a limited series could work.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 05:02:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I want to see him like, grow up a chainsaw and get into more crazy Pym Particle shenanigans.

I want a lot more of this movie's action.

rentonwong · 3 points · Posted at 16:05:22 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Kicking ass during Vietnam as Ant Man.

I wished they had a Punisher movie about that but it looks like the MCU Punisher is going to be a Gulf War or War of Terror veteran.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:08:50 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

War of Terror

It's technically war ON terror, but this basically works too.

rentonwong · 3 points · Posted at 03:08:57 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes, that is technically correct, but the average Iraqi citizen will strongly dispute your point.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:07:52 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah honestly in most parts of the world that aren't republican conventions that works better. The only problem is wouldn't every war fundamentally be a war of terror? Like there's no "as opposed to the war of the roses, which was actually a series of very civil chess games." But as it is we've got wars of terror going back to tribe days, ten thousand year old children's skulls with bite marks all over them, and drones are basically a lateral move.

rentonwong · 2 points · Posted at 04:10:30 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

drones are basically a lateral move.

The Pakistanis, Yemenis and some Afghans can tell you all about them drones.

kkehoe5 · 2 points · Posted at 13:38:48 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

What did Pym mean by saying he can't wear the suit anymore because years of wearing it took a toll on his body?

twitchedawake · 4 points · Posted at 23:12:56 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, he was the one who founded and experimentaled with pym particles. Makes sense he didn't learn about that helmet the first few times.

And in the comics, Pym eventually inhaled the gas so much that he could shrink without it

Cloudy_mood · 2 points · Posted at 11:38:31 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fun Fact: I was REALLY little when I saw Romancing the Stone for the first time. I think my folks thought it would be like Raiders of the Lost Ark. A bunch of jokes/material went over my head, but not Douglas' character. I thought he was the ULTIMATE bad ass. Great sense of humor, and a true adventurer.

But that character also taught me to curse. A lot. In fact I was cursing so much my brother heard me and threaten to tell our parents if I didn't stop.

And there's a small dancing scene in Stone too.

James_LeFleur · 1 points · Posted at 04:35:23 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

That cgi looked so good they could make a young Michael Douglas movie right now. In 20 years we probably won't even have real actors anymore.

Twitch92 · 1 points · Posted at 02:35:35 on August 2, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know this was a few weeks ago when you commented but that would be the most amazing thing to have Douglas in a movie like that. How perfect would that be? If only we could ever get that movie.

w41twh4t · 1 points · Posted at 15:51:02 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Along with Catherine Zeta-Jones as the Wasp.

And as an added bonus we'd be sure to get the clueless SJW complaints about her trying to decide what outfit to wear.

twitchedawake · 1 points · Posted at 23:13:49 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

It works cause they never show Janet's face. Photos, flashbacks, etc, Janets face was always hidden.

Mange-Tout · 8 points · Posted at 14:47:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"It's not a keychain."

The second time I saw the keychain onscreen I turned to my friend and said, "Plot point. It's a real tank."

TSparklez · 6 points · Posted at 16:06:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wouldn't it weigh as much as a real tank then? Since everything shrunk keeps its mass.

Mange-Tout · 10 points · Posted at 16:13:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I noticed they played very fast and loose with that rule. For example, the fight on the toy train. They throw toy train cars and blocks at each other. Wouldn't those just bounce off with no harm? The ants attack the bad guy and he is almost overwhelmed. Wouldn't he just be able to flick away the ants as easily as I can flick away an ant? Also, if they take something small like a Thomas Tank Engine and grow it to real size, shouldn't it have the same mass as the toy and not a real train? Really, a lot of it didn't make sense, but it was fun.

the1egend1ives · 5 points · Posted at 04:28:29 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, he rides ants with no problem, so I'm guessing it's not a rule.

TDenverFan · 1 points · Posted at 04:07:00 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was probably my favoite scene in the whole movie

D-Speak · 6 points · Posted at 05:15:56 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Until the climax, the story almost felt more about Pym than Scott, which I liked. Scott almost felt like Nick Carroway to Pym's Gatsby. It's Ant-Man, and it's about Ant-Man I and his successor both. Loved it.

imbignate · 2 points · Posted at 14:56:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"How's your face?"

wordlifetn97 · 2 points · Posted at 23:05:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"You're full of shit!"

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 00:59:16 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

My god, the 'It's Not a Keychain' scene blew my theater away. The laughs were so real, people were so shocked. This movie was so full of surprises!

argusromblei · 1 points · Posted at 15:11:41 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Tank You"

LittleInfidel · 1 points · Posted at 15:47:19 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

I read an interesting article that explained why they skipped Hank Pym as Ant-Man.

The long-and-short of it is that Pym has a history of being angry and in some cases physically abusive. He flip flops sides and has a serious inferiority complex. He's a much harder sell as a hero than everyman Scott Lang and much better suited to the role of mellowed-out former hero.

LiteraryBoner · 120 points · Posted at 02:05:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Douglas doesn't fuck around. You don't just get that voice for being light hearted all the time.

yagi-san · 46 points · Posted at 10:39:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

No, you get that voice from throat cancer caused by oral sex on Catherine Zeta-Jones.

elbenji · 5 points · Posted at 13:19:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

No you get it from years of cunnilingus that caused cancer

TheGogginator · 212 points · Posted at 01:59:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm hoping I'm not the only one who said to myself "Ravioli Ravioli, give me the formuoli."

sw33n3y · 5 points · Posted at 11:19:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Don't worry I got you covered.

BogusSoup · 3 points · Posted at 02:24:06 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Definitely not, said it right away to my friend, who I'm not sure got the reference

the-great-radsby · 29 points · Posted at 02:36:09 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I know there's a Plankton joke here somewhere... I just can't put my finger on it.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 17:14:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If Mr. Krabs screws up his formula, does he shrink to the planck-ton length?

I tried.

Ijustwantahotpocket · 9 points · Posted at 02:36:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That reminds me how cool it was when Scott turned his regulator to Wombo mode

twitchedawake · 2 points · Posted at 23:18:48 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

So does that mean MCU Lang can now grow like in the comics?

apgearhart1 · 3 points · Posted at 02:13:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Haha I noticed that he even said "formuler" like Mr. Krabs himself!

The_Naked_Snake · 3 points · Posted at 06:04:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's hilarious you say that because in the theater right after the part where Pym argues with the board members in the 80's, my little sister leans over and whispers "Ravioli ravioli, give me the formuoli"

Morningsun92 · 2 points · Posted at 07:50:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

plankton*

nameless88 · 2 points · Posted at 04:35:15 on July 30, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can ya feel it now, Dr. Pym?
^{Can ya feel it now Dr. Pym?}
^{^can} ^{^ya} ^{^feel} ^{^it} ^{^now,} ^{^Dr.} ^{^Pym?}

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:12:05 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

FUN FACT: the toy rabbit is voiced by Tom Kenny, who voices Spongebob Squarepants (source: this and then I googled it)

LordOfTheRingo · 244 points · Posted at 06:05:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought the way they did the romance fit really well with the movie. There was no touching scene and then they kiss, it was Hank catching Scott and Hope making out. Perfect.

Coffee-Anon · 62 points · Posted at 21:59:08 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved that, great example of how this movie tried to avoid the common beats we've come to expect from Marvel movies, and often did so hilariously

Lairdom · 26 points · Posted at 18:46:54 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

"When did this happen?"

bluthscottgeorge · 1 points · Posted at 11:46:16 on November 9, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yep, just because you have an adventure with the opposite sex, where people's lives in danger, doesn't necessarily mean you will at one point, fall in love.

MiketheIKE0 · 1106 points · Posted at 01:36:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"I know a Guy"

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!

the-great-radsby · 912 points · Posted at 02:41:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

For me, what made that scene was the reveal that CAP AND FALCON ACTUALLY FOUND BUCKY

Like, Louis' hilarious narration (with a cameo from Anna Akana lol?) already confirmed that Scott was gonna be recruited, but SEEING BUCKY, CAP, AND FALCON IN THE SAME ROOM UGH.

CIVIL WAR HYPE

Waltonruler5 · 656 points · Posted at 06:18:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

3 Captain Americas in the same room

Totallydiscreetname · 331 points · Posted at 10:19:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

3 Caps teasing Cap 3?

legochemgrad · 318 points · Posted at 14:46:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Civil War was just a front, it's really Captain America 3: the Captaining

CollumMcJingleballs · 189 points · Posted at 02:28:23 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Captain America 3: Too Many Captains, Not Enough America

snakeybasher · 24 points · Posted at 07:26:13 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It takes a lot to make a cap! Too many caps! Too many caps!

[deleted] · 14 points · Posted at 03:48:09 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

NEVER ENOUGH AMERICA.

tehrand0mz · 3 points · Posted at 20:37:37 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

We can fix this: promote them to majors!

The_Prince1513 · 3 points · Posted at 16:00:18 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

.....TIME TO MAKE MORE AMERICA!

THE CAPTAINS ARE COMING FOR YOU, CANADA!

antitheist666 · 1 points · Posted at 03:33:19 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

Capception

PartiesLikeIts1999 · 5 points · Posted at 01:05:42 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

3 Cap 3 Threerious

EarthExile · 3 points · Posted at 23:25:16 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Captain America 3: Red White and Bluegaloo

ThePotatoKing · 2 points · Posted at 04:31:04 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Cap Life 3 confirmed?

Heelincal · 2 points · Posted at 07:44:38 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

EVERYBODY GETS A SHIELD

Flexappeal · 2 points · Posted at 02:10:00 on August 5, 2015 · (Permalink)

Closed Captains available.

CanadianDave · 13 points · Posted at 02:58:06 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Cap-Life 3 Confirmed!!!

rentonwong · 1 points · Posted at 16:10:39 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I see what you did there

yugimotta · 1 points · Posted at 14:19:20 on August 11, 2015 · (Permalink)

Half Life 3 Confirmed

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:09:24 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Half life 3 confirmed.

Kosko · 6 points · Posted at 16:20:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Holy shit, I forgot about Bucky as Cap as well. Good call!

randdomusername · 1 points · Posted at 17:09:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Captain America 3 confirmed???

nvrendr · 3 points · Posted at 15:46:48 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Is Civil War not Capt America 3?

gatsby365 · 178 points · Posted at 04:52:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Don't forget the russia connection in the 1980s. God I want Pym to hate the Winter Soldier.

LuluVonLuvenburg · 41 points · Posted at 09:50:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I want them to have actually crossed paths before in a past scene.

gatsby365 · 26 points · Posted at 15:01:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

My dream is Cap/Falcon go to Pym for help with Winter Soldier's arm, and Pym starts wailing on him.

matthew7s26 · 10 points · Posted at 23:06:02 on July 28, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really love that Pym's temper was totally there in this movie. Two or three times he just hammers a dude.

WednesdayWolf · 7 points · Posted at 09:28:10 on November 9, 2015 · (Permalink)

Phrasing.

confused_chopstick · 6 points · Posted at 22:26:27 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

They very well might have. It would be awesome to recreate some of his old adventures. Make Ant Man 2 a prequel - the adventures of Ant Man and the Wasp.

LuluVonLuvenburg · 9 points · Posted at 03:27:37 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Sounds like the next marvel one shot.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:57:04 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

oh shit man that's going to be dope

Rebound · 29 points · Posted at 08:23:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

CAP AND FALCON?

CAP 'N' FALCON?

CAPTAIN FALCON CONFIRMED FOR CIVIL WAR

Echo_of_Snac · 1 points · Posted at 11:13:04 on August 16, 2015 · (Permalink)

Show me your moves!

iwrestledabeartwiceq · 21 points · Posted at 04:55:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anna Akana showing up threw me off completely, I had to IMDB it to make sure it was really her.

AwesomePocket · 2 points · Posted at 18:59:09 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah. I'm not really a fan, but I recognized her immediately. Good to know she's going places outside of YouTube.

KingOfAwesometonia · 10 points · Posted at 07:06:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh didn't realize Anna Akana is a popular YouTube personality. Makes her IMDB page with things I've never heard of have more context.

I looked at her name in the credits because I thought she looked cute. I'm a pig, I know.

CallRespiratory · 6 points · Posted at 14:40:41 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

No shame in that.

entertainman · 1 points · Posted at 06:05:48 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

you should check out her video, how not to get raped

KingOfAwesometonia · 1 points · Posted at 06:17:48 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I honestly really should. Some of the noteable videos on her Wikipedia page sounded really interesting. YouTube video blogs are always hard for me to get into though.

And I do hope you're suggesting that because it's interesting/informative and not because you think I'm a pig. Though again, I probably wouldn't blame you.

entertainman · 1 points · Posted at 06:56:23 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

You'll either find her more or less attractive after.

Damasticator · 5 points · Posted at 12:19:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

CIVIL. FUCKING. WAR.

NeverShoutEugene · 9 points · Posted at 14:03:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fuck fuck fuck there was a second ending scene after the credits?

prophetofgreed · 8 points · Posted at 05:32:27 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes, it's Cap and Falcon finding Bucky. It ends with Falcon saying, "I know a guy"

Then the classic writing comes up, "Ant-Man will return"

AwesomePocket · 1 points · Posted at 19:00:23 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why did you not stay?

NeverShoutEugene · 3 points · Posted at 19:01:17 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought the scene with the Wasp was the final ending.

AwesomePocket · 2 points · Posted at 19:52:06 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I see. Never underestimate Marvel.

DatPiff916 · 6 points · Posted at 05:30:21 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Most people left the theater, Avengers 2 had people thinking they were wasting their time.

avericks · 2 points · Posted at 05:36:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

CAP AND FALCON ACTUALLY FOUND BUCKY

Damn I must have missed that. When did it happen

HuruHara · 9 points · Posted at 06:48:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Post-credit scene.

Mid-credit was Hope's suit. Post-credit was Cap and Falcon finding Bucky.

Mantis05 · 8 points · Posted at 09:47:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not just finding. Sounded like they had already found him and were keeping him out of sight. Falcon said something like, "This would've been easier a week ago." I bet Bucky relapsed, did something terrible, and Cap's covering because it's his friend... Hence Civil War.

[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 12:31:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

My money is on Hydra contingency on the arm. It was in a vice and they were deciding between two scientists.

SockPenguin · 2 points · Posted at 06:49:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was after the credits, so if you didn't stick around you would have missed it.

avericks · 5 points · Posted at 06:53:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Damn I pulled a rookie ass mistake of not staying. I saw a link to it though so I'm all caught up now

SockPenguin · 3 points · Posted at 07:12:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I almost didn't stay since Ultron didn't have anything after the credits but I was kinda curious to see if they'd do something with Pym's wife.

shotterken · 2 points · Posted at 15:03:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Pym's wife might have been there during the microverse scene when Scott is there. Reed said in a video with Collider to pay attention and look for something/someone. He said it like it was definitely a someone. So either Janet or maybe Darren Cross.

twitchedawake · 1 points · Posted at 23:36:39 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Makes sense it would be cross. No way Janet wouldve been miles and miles away.

2x2hands0f00f · 1 points · Posted at 13:43:27 on August 15, 2015 · (Permalink)

'something something you'll enter a realm where time and space become irrelevant', so maybe not.

acerackham · 2 points · Posted at 20:46:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did Ultron not have the Thanos and infinity gauntlet thing?

SockPenguin · 3 points · Posted at 22:31:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was mid credits. Unless my theater screwed me over there wasn't anything after the credits.

acerackham · 2 points · Posted at 22:59:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ohhh yeah, you're right!

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:55:16 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

[deleted]

avericks · 1 points · Posted at 04:01:11 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Youtube link below in the comments

black-ra1n54 · 1 points · Posted at 05:49:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I didn't see buck and cap. I must of blinked or something....

spoilersweetie · 1 points · Posted at 06:22:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The end credits scene?

black-ra1n54 · 0 points · Posted at 07:03:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I didn't stay for the second one. Saw someone post it. that's awesome.

space_montaine · 1 points · Posted at 17:55:30 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Who was the Asian girl?

the-great-radsby · 1 points · Posted at 19:58:09 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anna Akana, a youtuber I'd occasionally seen in videos by some youtubers I follow. I think she has her own channel too, but I've never seen much of her original content, and afaik, she definitely hasn't been in anything the size of a Marvel film before.

dating_derp · 1 points · Posted at 20:31:10 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I missed a name in that dialogue between Cap and Falcon. They were talking about asking Stark for help and then they said "We don't know if ___ will let him." Did anyone catch that name?

the-great-radsby · 2 points · Posted at 21:04:50 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The word you missed was "accords".

Falcon says that even if Tony were willing to help Cap, the accords might not let him. I'm guessing Cap has gone underground, and Stark is somehow being prevented from using his suits (or that he's the face of a version of the superhero registration act, and is therefore has to refrain from helping Cap).

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:29:20 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

when was this the after credits scene was the bee suit right?

DoctorConiMac · 1 points · Posted at 08:45:25 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh Anna, we went to intermediate school in Hawaii together. I gave her a gold ring with an emerald on it.

-_- Teenage hormones.

IceVest · 1 points · Posted at 08:21:11 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

CAP AND FALCON ACTUALLY FOUND BUCKY

Ok so I could understand Louis for the rest of the movie and follow his stories but this scene confused me. I only caught on to the Spiderman reference, how do you know they found Bucky? What did Falcon say?

B0B4xF3TT · 1 points · Posted at 02:06:56 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Who is Anna Akana?

benscookie · 1 points · Posted at 10:18:14 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was trying hard to contain myself in front of my friend and 2 other people who waited for the after after credit.

wingzero00 · 401 points · Posted at 01:55:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Antman is confirmed for civil war, wasnt expecting that. Way more hyped now.

[deleted] · 157 points · Posted at 02:21:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

There have been set photos of Rudd shooting Civil War for some quite time now.

mfranko88 · 210 points · Posted at 05:56:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Some people (myself included) don't follow the news that closely. I like being surprised.

8va · 40 points · Posted at 13:26:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Surprise!

paranoidbillionaire · 5 points · Posted at 18:35:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I do follow the news closely and hadn't heard this information yet. The world is a magical place. What a time to be alive!

ytsejamajesty · 5 points · Posted at 17:17:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I often wish I didn't follow it so closely...

mfranko88 · 6 points · Posted at 17:35:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Dude all you gotta do is drop Comingsoon and AICN from your news watch. Or whatever you kids these days use to hype up. It's that easy

ytsejamajesty · 3 points · Posted at 17:38:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nah, it's the self control that's the hard part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA1mbZ_MMh8

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 19:04:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm really going to try to go into Civil War as underexposed as possible. I'm going to try to not watch trailers, see set photos or official images, read or hear interviews, nothing.

mfranko88 · 5 points · Posted at 19:19:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

It's really refreshing, I promise. I've done it for other movies I highly anticipated and I think it really helped me enjoy the experience more. I can't possibly be disappointed that "they didn't use this character like I thought they would" because I didn't know that this character was going to be in it in the first place!

acerackham · 4 points · Posted at 20:49:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I've been doing it for the last year or so, I didn't even know Evangeline Lily was in this film. In fact, the only people I knew were in the film were Rudd and Douglas. Pretty much every aspect was a nice surprise! Nor did I watch anything for Age of Ultron, highly recommend it!!

mfranko88 · 3 points · Posted at 20:57:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Yeah apparently the Hulkbuster was way amped up in ads and buzz for AoU. I had no idea. So IM vs Hulk was fucking awesome because I had no idea it was going to happen.

absparekh · 1 points · Posted at 19:18:19 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm also in this boat. I didn't watch any trailers or any preview material for The Avengers, and it ended up being my favorite movie of all-time.

Later that summer, I hyped myself up for The Dark Knight Rises and ended up being disappointed because of my expectations.

Ever since, I don't watch trailers for anything. Makes the movies that much better every time.

blitzbom · 2 points · Posted at 19:25:53 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Me too, other than what I've seen in other films (like Ant Man) I want to know as little as possible.

I'm doing it with Star Wars too. The trailer came on and I closed my eyes, covered my ears and started humming. My girlfriend said it looked good though.

w41twh4t · 3 points · Posted at 15:58:31 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Plus some people actively avoid news. I was glad I didn't know Falcon was in Ant-man for example. Very nice surprise.

itstheshirt · 2 points · Posted at 13:56:12 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

yeah, and Paul Rudd mentions being on set with them on his Nerdist podcast

TheHandyman1 · 3 points · Posted at 06:57:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not everyone is such a nerd man!

onlyforthisair · 1 points · Posted at 00:30:26 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

Link?

the-great-radsby · 22 points · Posted at 02:12:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

And so is WASP! (probably, hopefully)

It's about damn time

shotterken · 3 points · Posted at 15:06:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

She could be in it. They definitely wouldn't have Evangeline Lilly on a (somewhat) public set. It would've spoiled the whole Wasp scene (although it was to be expected).

MightyGreenPanda · 7 points · Posted at 12:27:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Civil War spoilers

2ero · 3 points · Posted at 06:45:55 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I mean he did go SUB ATOMIC!

twitchedawake · 3 points · Posted at 23:39:12 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, he did finally learn to grow.

TheGogginator · 5 points · Posted at 03:33:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Marvel announced he would be in the film when they said the rest of the cast a couple months ago for Civil War. Source

LittleInfidel · 1 points · Posted at 15:55:52 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wasn't he a major plot point for Civil War?

wingzero00 · 2 points · Posted at 21:10:37 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think he was, I haven't read the comics but, he reveals his identity to the public in civil war.

[deleted] · -3 points · Posted at 02:02:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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--Petrichor-- · 9 points · Posted at 02:51:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

... did you seriously expect them to kill the main character?

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 02:54:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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BritishHobo · 3 points · Posted at 16:12:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I love that people are downvoting you for expecting some kind of genuine dramatic tension from a story.

Course, in Marvel, nobody ever actually dies, they just inexplicably find a way back from whatever should have killed them. Star power over story, yo.

IanMazgelis · 3 points · Posted at 16:24:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think a big part of it is that everyone is acting like Ant-Man, as a movie, is an underdog which everyone was going in to hate... Forgetting that it's a Marvel movie and it's popular by default.

Of course negative opinions are going to get down voted. The fans think they're the minority.

BritishHobo · 2 points · Posted at 16:53:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, I was baffled by how many prominent positive comments in this post are saying things like 'Fuck the haters - I loved this and I don't care who knows it!' Who on earth are they rebelling against?

Wombat_H · 4 points · Posted at 02:41:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Even if they didn't announce it, were you really expecting Scott to die?

LiteraryBoner · 90 points · Posted at 02:12:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can someone tell me who the tied up guy was and what that scene meant beyond seeing Ant Man in Civil War? What was the context?

[deleted] · 261 points · Posted at 02:20:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It looked like Bucky (winter soldier) with his arm caught in a steel press.

becauseican95 · 73 points · Posted at 02:59:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did you catch what the situation was? People were cheering and I couldn't hear why they needed Scott.

BenjaminTalam · 207 points · Posted at 04:01:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They needed to secure Bucky but not bring anyone else in on it, Tony Stark needed to be kept out of it (perhaps he has some serious beef with Bucky).

I'm assuming they want Ant Man to smuggle him or something.

tastybabysoup · 252 points · Posted at 04:20:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wouldn't you have beef with the assassin that killed your dad? Zola heavily implies that is the case in Winter Soldier

Jacobjs93 · 22 points · Posted at 05:01:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wow that means it was after the beginning part of the movie that they show in ant man when they kill Howard. That means it was after 1986... How old would Bucky be??

Tunundary · 37 points · Posted at 05:19:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well he fought in World War II, so about as old as Captain America, give or take a few years.

Jacobjs93 · 7 points · Posted at 05:29:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Then how old was Howard? Because he lived past 1986 according to this movie. What year did he die?

Tunundary · 26 points · Posted at 05:35:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

According to the newspaper headlines in 1991.

Jacobjs93 · 2 points · Posted at 05:37:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ah! You're the man! (Woman, whatever) so how old is tony? It said in the movie he takes control of the company when he is 21.

Tunundary · 1 points · Posted at 05:45:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well assuming he took over the company the year his father died, that would put him born in 1970. So he'd be 45 now. There is a fake Forbes magazine where it talks about him taking the reins at 21, but I can't find a copy of it in high enough quality to see the year. So he is somewhere between 21 and 45.

Jacobjs93 · 1 points · Posted at 05:51:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

At the beginning of iron man 1 they state he took over at 21 after the passing of a Titan. BUT Obadiah could have been running it for a little while. And 40s seem kind of old for iron man. (Just saying)

Tunundary · 2 points · Posted at 06:04:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ok, so I just rewatched the opening for Iron Man. It said he graduated from MIT at age 17, "then the passing of a titan," showing the death of Howard Stark. It said Obadiah stepped in for a while until Tony took the reigns at 21. So that would still put him in his early 40s, but he would have been in his late 30's for the first movie.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 22:03:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

This entire tree of responses just blew my mind.

Tunundary · 2 points · Posted at 00:08:21 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, there is a lot to be gleamed from the little details they throw into the story. I'm just glad I don't have to keep the entire continuity in order over the 12 movies that are already out in the MCU.

mmmasian · 2 points · Posted at 13:03:58 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

We know from Tony's SHIELD File that he was born on May 29th, 1970. That makes present day Tony 45, and 40 during Iron Man.

JavaNewie · 1 points · Posted at 01:43:28 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I graduated college in 1991. That's make Iron Man my age.

Fuck, what have I done with my life?

Tunundary · 2 points · Posted at 02:59:59 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well if you aren't a billionaire/playboy/inventor/super-hero then I'm afraid to say, not much.

JavaNewie · 1 points · Posted at 01:34:22 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Genius, ~~Billionaire~~, ~~Playboy~~, ~~Philanthropist~~.

One out of four?

Tunundary · 2 points · Posted at 01:39:56 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Totally counts. There is even a subreddit dedicated just to you.

JavaNewie · 1 points · Posted at 01:46:34 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I also own a stack of playboys. And I once dumped my change to the Ronald McDonald Charities bucket at the drive-through.

So...

Genius, ~~Billionaire~~, Playboy, Philanthropist

Tunundary · 8 points · Posted at 07:19:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

So it appears that Tony's DOB was on his SHIELD file as 05/29/1970. That would mean he was 21 at the time of his father's death and 45 today. That still means that Obadiah could have run the company for a few months while Tony mourned.

rentonwong · 3 points · Posted at 16:13:39 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Imagine if Obadiah was a Hydra stooge...

Tunundary · 3 points · Posted at 16:20:23 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

That could be interesting, but if he was, I doubt he'd have outsourced Tony's assassination.

twitchedawake · 2 points · Posted at 23:43:12 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Makes sense. Iron man 1 showed a magazine front page that said 21 year old Tony inherited the company.

prophetofgreed · 8 points · Posted at 05:34:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Bucky like Cap has his aging stalled by him getting frozen for years and then thawed for missions by Hydra for a limited time and then frozen again.

Him being a super soldier like Cap also helps him not age.

D-Speak · 5 points · Posted at 14:19:17 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Physically or technically? Because he would just be brought out for high profile jobs and then refrozen, so I doubt he's physically out of his twenties even.

Rogerss93 · 2 points · Posted at 22:35:55 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

The start of Ant Man takes place in 1989

twitchedawake · 1 points · Posted at 23:42:07 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did you not see Captain America 2?

mr_popcorn · 8 points · Posted at 12:12:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ooh, that makes sense. It might just be one of the main reasons the rift happens between Stark and Rogers in Civil War. Tony wants to imprison him, but Steve wants to save him.

BenjaminTalam · 3 points · Posted at 04:31:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not if he were brain washed and not in control of himself. I'd have beef with the scientists who made him.

Definitely wouldn't want him reminiscing about it at the dinner table though.

concerned_thirdparty · 1 points · Posted at 12:56:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

When is this implied

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 14:45:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Winter Soldier movie, the scene with Zola.

poondi · 6 points · Posted at 21:01:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think it refers to the fact that by having a kickass suit, Antman has to have technical knowledge (which he does, thanks to that Masters in electricity, plus he knows Pym.) I think it seemed like the mechanical arm was hurting Bucky/was messed up, and Scott could help with that.

BenjaminTalam · 2 points · Posted at 21:48:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ahhhh that makes a lot of sense

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:04:21 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

*masters in electrical engineering

poondi · 2 points · Posted at 04:07:08 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

oh gosh thanks for pointing that out. I promise I know that Masters in electricity is not a thing.

cayal3 · 7 points · Posted at 15:17:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They said stark couldn't be brought in because of the accords (or along that line).

Odin043 · 5 points · Posted at 04:40:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He also said this would have been easier a week ago. Maybe Bucky did something a week ago that week split the team

TJButler · 3 points · Posted at 04:06:09 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I assumed the "a week ago" was reference to "Civil War" and the beef between Cap and Tony.

axcairns · 3 points · Posted at 04:44:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Didn't Bucky kill Howard Stark?

BenjaminTalam · 2 points · Posted at 05:03:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I guess it was implied, yes. I need to rewatch Winter Soldier.

alheezy · 2 points · Posted at 02:25:05 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just got out of the movie. Cap says he can't bring Stark in "because of the accords." Definitely a Civil War build up.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 07:31:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

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BenjaminTalam · 2 points · Posted at 09:04:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

None of us know exactly what it's about. I'm sure it's going to be vastly different than the comics.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 14:46:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I dont think this is it, I heard it was from the CivilWar movie, so maybe theyre on shitty terms at that point in the movie?

mrshock13 · 1 points · Posted at 21:26:37 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It looked more like Bucky was stuck and they needed help getting him out of there.

That being said, it is also 100% possible you are entirely correct. Either way, it got us all even more psyched for Civil War.

electron-shock · 1 points · Posted at 23:12:28 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Could Pym possibly set up "The big house". Basically they shrink villains and put them in a tiny prison.

unwanted_puppy · 1 points · Posted at 05:46:24 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought maybe they wanted Antman to go inside Bucky's brain. I have to see again how he got brainwashed.

cyvaris · 2 points · Posted at 12:53:13 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Falcon says it took a lot of effort to find Bucky, to which Cap replies it would have been better if he'd done it a week before because the "accords" will make things difficult now. To me, it sounds like the Registration Act is in full effect.

argusromblei · 1 points · Posted at 15:14:53 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought he was trying to remove his arm, and got stuck in the press doing it

fillmont · 93 points · Posted at 02:19:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Winter Soldier! It almost looked like an actual scene from civil war

tundra8 · 25 points · Posted at 02:25:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Feige said it was from a daily of the Cap 3 shoots.

gatsby365 · 7 points · Posted at 04:52:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's fucking awesome.

BlakBanana · 7 points · Posted at 17:50:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wait, I'm out of the loop. Is Civil War the same thing as Cap 3?

tundra8 · 8 points · Posted at 18:01:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yea, Think the title tagline is Civil war

Con0rr · 10 points · Posted at 17:56:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yep. It was directed by the Russo brothers.

I really like how dark it looked. Really sets the tone for Civil War perfectly

jprofetto · 7 points · Posted at 05:14:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought the same thing. Had to have been a scene from the film itself.

sneakybreadsticks · 5 points · Posted at 09:37:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

From what I heard, that scene takes place in the middle of civil war.

blex64 · 6 points · Posted at 15:06:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It is, according to i09. They said Feige was watching dailies from Civil War and when he saw that scene immediately decided to throw it in the post credits scene

wagellanofspain · 2 points · Posted at 13:18:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It is a scene from civil war. It was directed by the russos rather than by Peyton reed

elfeyesseetoomuch · 2 points · Posted at 03:49:41 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

From what I have read it either is an actual scene from Civil War or at the very least a tweaked scene from Civil War to tie in Ant Man. Either way its from the set of Civil War.

Protectpoultry · 2 points · Posted at 06:07:47 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was. They were recording dailies for Civil War and Feige decided that would work as a stinger. Normally they stick to a cheap(ish) gag for the final stinger, like the dialogue-free shawarma scene, or in the case of guardians of the Galaxy, literally just some leftover footage of Benicio that they could add Howard the Duck to.

twodamnpi · 1 points · Posted at 17:03:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I assumed that's the case just by the different ratio it was shot in.

spawnkilled · 1 points · Posted at 03:30:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was thinking the same thing. It was almost like they cut a scene directly from the movie.

bagofbeef74 · 1 points · Posted at 02:15:56 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I read somewhere that it IS. It'll appear in CW, but cut differently.

ITGuyAZ · 0 points · Posted at 06:34:54 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

If you actually do some general googling about the scene, it was confirmed by I believe Feige that the scene was in fact from the upcoming Civil War movie. It will be an actual scene, they may change around the actual script in what they say a bit but it's literally from the movie! Super excited!

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/How-Ant-Man-Post-Credits-Scene-Connects-Captain-America-Civil-War-72641.html

walla_walla_rhubarb · 2 points · Posted at 04:30:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wait huh? When was this?

LiteraryBoner · 4 points · Posted at 04:36:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

There were two scenes during the credits. One in the middle with the Wasp reveal and another after the credits with Cap and Falcon and apparently Bucky.

walla_walla_rhubarb · 3 points · Posted at 04:46:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Damn I only stayed for the wasp one. Big thanks to the guy that recorded it though. You da real mvp

scooterpie1878 · 1 points · Posted at 12:44:03 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Got a link to the recorded scene?

walla_walla_rhubarb · 1 points · Posted at 04:47:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Damn I only stayed for the wasp one. Big thanks to the guy that recorded it though. You da real mvp

AmazingMarv · 1 points · Posted at 22:10:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

It was Bucky Barnes / Winter Soldier; Captain's pal in the first Captain movie and nemesis in the second.

I didn't perfectly understand the situation either. They had him trapped either intentionally or on purpose and need Stark for something - either to get him out and/or for Stark's technological knowledge.

soulbreaker1418 · 1 points · Posted at 16:15:15 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Cap and Falcon have been seeking Bucky(the guy trapped) since the end of Winter Soldier, now they have him but can´t tell Iron Man for some reason and they call Ant-Man for an unspecified mission

Nurfy · 5 points · Posted at 01:52:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Explain sorry? EDIT: nvm only just realized there was an after credits scene. God damn it.

wingzero00 · 13 points · Posted at 01:57:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

After credits scene, falcon referenced antman to join them.

[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 02:07:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

to join cap and not stark

Juxtaposn · 4 points · Posted at 08:01:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That one went over my head. Who's the guy?

Proxify · 5 points · Posted at 10:58:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

any idea who that is? I'm assuming Scott, but can't figure out why

halftone84 · 2 points · Posted at 18:16:49 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Walked out an hour ago, my mate said "who's the guy he knows?" ... I was like dude, what film did you just watch ?

Big_h3aD · 2 points · Posted at 22:56:28 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fucking what?! Was there another post credit scene?

victionicious · 2 points · Posted at 18:36:40 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

I did the same fucking thing. Fuck.

RustyDetective · 3 points · Posted at 03:15:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm interested in how they got Bucky in the position to trap his arm? Especially when he can detach it and control it.

samsaBEAR · 2 points · Posted at 23:30:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Remember at the end of TWS he was sort of coming around, at least enough to pull Cap out of the river. Maybe they managed to confuse him long enough for Falcon to trap him.

RustyDetective · 1 points · Posted at 00:09:02 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Who's Bucky!

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:55:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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RustyDetective · 1 points · Posted at 15:13:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Indeed, and he can control it as if it were an RC car.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:17:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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RustyDetective · 1 points · Posted at 15:29:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, comic stuff. But it doesn't mean they couldn't use it, since the MCU is inspired not based off the comics.

bkauf7 · 1 points · Posted at 04:33:00 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

who is the guy he knows?

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:05:54 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can you explain the scene? I'm a little confused.

GoldfishAvenger · 1 points · Posted at 07:15:26 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think Bucky might have killed Howard Stark. One reason Tony can't help.

riddledivan · 223 points · Posted at 11:11:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I like how maturely and nuanced they handled the stepfather. I was thinking he'd be some fodder guy who ends up as a minor villain or dead in the end (ala 2012)

But no, the movie defied my expectations.

PenXSword · 126 points · Posted at 03:50:26 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

He seemed very organic, and a bit of an odd fit. He seems like he's in a different movie, playing the concerned step-father who is worried about his wife's creep ex-con ex. He could definitely be a strong supporting character in a Lifetime movie of the week, but thankfully Scott is a rather down to earth kinda guy and a hero at heart rather than the villain the step-father thinks he potentially is.

Glad to see they didn't make him an ass-hat just to have that father/step-father conflict.

confused_chopstick · 31 points · Posted at 23:28:53 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Agree, having the fiancé not fall into the trope was good. Really nice seeing them enjoying a meal together at the end.

ClintonHarvey · 4 points · Posted at 08:21:56 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

2012?

You mean San Andreas? Or did 2012 do that too?

riddledivan · 11 points · Posted at 08:31:28 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

2012 the disaster film. Yeah. The lead character's ex-wife got remarried and the guy piloted them to safety -only to die midway.

Surprise, surprise, the lead hooks up with the ex-wife and reunites with his kids. People said that it was a director-insert

the-great-radsby · 740 points · Posted at 02:03:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

There's something to be said about a film that can make you anxious and sad over the death of a flying pet ant named 'Antony' just after Michael Douglas has been shot.

rbarton812 · 173 points · Posted at 15:12:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oscar winning actor shot = Who cares?

Pet ant shot = YOU BASTARDS!

NefariousNeezy · 5 points · Posted at 20:26:12 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's like the dog in film logic. Bad guy kills good guy's family member? That's expected. He kills the dog?!!

[deleted] · -12 points · Posted at 09:39:38 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

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feyrband · 3 points · Posted at 15:08:59 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Really, the writing was on the wall as soon as he named it.

[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 03:29:23 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

as much as it would have sucked, Michael Douglas dying would have made sense in this movie since its about a "passing of the mantle"

But when Antony died? How dare you, sir, how DARE you...

itstheshirt · 5 points · Posted at 18:16:28 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I agree, but how ridiculous was that scene!? was it dumb luck or was Corey Stall just a great shot!?

twitchedawake · 6 points · Posted at 00:35:18 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Dumb luck. He was shooting into a cloud of ants.

mishiesings · 2 points · Posted at 02:40:12 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

/r/nocontext

bingbong_sempai · -3 points · Posted at 09:04:09 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Didn't really care about the ant tbh

BubblestheKhan · 9 points · Posted at 06:12:06 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

You're dead to me.

AntonyLives

bingbong_sempai · 6 points · Posted at 07:28:59 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

I feel like people care about Antony because the movie tells us we should care about it, instead of actually making us care about it. Does that make sense?

BubblestheKhan · 3 points · Posted at 17:33:03 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes.

dehehn · 2 points · Posted at 22:01:30 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

Agreed. I'm usually the first to get sad about animal sidekick deaths in movies, but they didn't really communicate that bond well enough for me. Part of it might be that Antony is controlled by AntMan, so it's harder to see him as a loyal companion than a mind controlled robot.

TheDankestMofo · 1 points · Posted at 21:47:31 on August 1, 2015 · (Permalink)

Plus, how long do ants live? He probably would have had to get a new Antony pretty soon anyway.

Megasus · 637 points · Posted at 03:20:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Glad we got a post credits scene with some context instead of Thanos jacking off with the damn glove

[deleted] · 326 points · Posted at 23:13:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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Trumanandthemachine · 29 points · Posted at 05:26:40 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Sounds just about right, except he doesn't have a car, he has the Thanos-Copter, which, tbh, I'm more excited to see its debut than anything else in Infinity War.

The_Prince1513 · 21 points · Posted at 16:03:22 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thanos-Copter

You mean the best vehicle in the entire marvel universe?

[deleted] · 20 points · Posted at 16:05:47 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)*

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ksaid1 · 9 points · Posted at 08:14:18 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh my god, that would be amazing. Once Scott joins the Avengers, Luis's stories are going to be absolutely incredible to watch. I loved it when Falcon was talking in his voice, can't wait for "yo I was talking to Black Widow who was talking to Hulk who was talking to Thor...."

madhare09 · 5 points · Posted at 23:50:23 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I believe you mean before getting into the Thanos Copter

Vrael22 · 2 points · Posted at 12:09:29 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'd love that Thor 3 post credits scene though to be honest

RubberDong · 1 points · Posted at 22:45:13 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Or a teaser for a movie that will never happen...such as the Howard the Duck incident.

ThePrinceofBelAir · 1 points · Posted at 01:23:00 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Pena is Thanos??

ksaid1 · 93 points · Posted at 00:50:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

yeah i'm sick of watching thanos put infinity stones up his butt after every marvel movie

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 01:54:44 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thanos needs to learn of the great hero, Kevin Bacon.

TWK128 · 8 points · Posted at 06:00:41 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Great. Now I'm imagining a scene where they can't get the Gauntlet off, and Thanos says, "It's permanently stuck on to my hand. I spent years making sure it'd never come off."

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:45:07 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well nobody else would do it for him so he had to uhh do it himself.

TylerOrtega1500 · 783 points · Posted at 01:48:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was excited the second the movie was announced and as bummed as I was that Edgar Wright left, the movie still made me laugh no matter what. I loved this film so much.

P.S. The Siri voice recognition and The Cure song was awesome as hell.

[deleted] · 280 points · Posted at 02:24:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I noticed he was still credited as an executive producer with Stan Lee

untrustableskeptic · 154 points · Posted at 03:59:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

And for the screenplay.

AdmiralValdemar · 14 points · Posted at 22:52:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's customary to credit all writers who worked on a screenplay from inception to final draft, even if the original work from the first writer/s is lost in subsequent revisions.

But I think we all saw Edgar and Joe's influences with the humour.

prophetofgreed · 9 points · Posted at 05:40:38 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Especially with that Baskin Robbins lines, that was very Edgar Wright humor.

AkaBBaka · 4 points · Posted at 06:55:49 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

There's more than custom behind it, though. As I understand it the WGA (Writers Guild) act as an arbiter for US made films when there's disputes over who should get credit for writing screenplays and they do have rules set up on how much a writer does to be credited. According to some reports James Gunn was trying to get sole credit for writing Guardians of the Galaxy but the WGA knocked him back (source, among others - http://www.ibtimes.com/welcome-gunn-show-how-nicole-perlman-being-written-out-guardians-galaxy-1659036 ).

johncosta · 1 points · Posted at 19:02:39 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's actually not customary. There are some weird WGA union regulations that say a writer only gets credited if they make a "substantial contribution" as decided by WGA arbiters. This means that a writer can potentially write a majority of the words in a screenplay and not get credited.

Additionally, studios hire writers all the time to do tiny passes on movies and those writers almost never see credit.

There's some good information here.

dating_derp · 1 points · Posted at 21:20:21 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

And for the story.

rlovelock · 1 points · Posted at 05:21:13 on August 9, 2015 · (Permalink)

And the story

banecancer · 6 points · Posted at 04:17:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Also credited as a writer.

Thirdyearfreshmen · 5 points · Posted at 06:19:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He's credited for cowriting the screenplay as well.

kplo · 2 points · Posted at 13:29:32 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

You know what this means right? He was in pre production and worked to have the film going. They have to rcognize him for that in the credits, as well as giving him a portion of the movie's income.

hanburgundy · 30 points · Posted at 05:47:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Watching this movie, I could totally see what Edgar Wright was going to do with it... I think it still has a lot of his fingerprints in it. Just imagine mostly the same movie with better shot composition (Peyton Reed uses zoomed in close-ups more than Kenneth Branagh used dutch angles) and a little more quirkiness/stylistic flair. I'm absolutely happy with what we got, but I think Wright's version probably would have blown our willies off.

Kiram · 24 points · Posted at 08:16:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It definitely had bits and pieces of Wright's style littered about the place. The visual gags alone felt very much like his style, with the 1-2 punch of the miniature train wreck and the gigantic train wreck. Inappropriately sized things are funny, apparently.

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 13:05:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wright's version wouldn't have had all the Avengers moments tacked on either.

navjot94 · 13 points · Posted at 13:19:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That Falcon/Ant-man fight was one of my favorite scenes too.

PINIPF · 8 points · Posted at 14:05:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"It's ok he can't see me" "Oh I can se you"

Damn

TheWhinoceros · 6 points · Posted at 02:12:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I liked it. But, thinking about it after the movie, it felt unnecessary. I wonder if Wright had a different infiltration scene planned to steal something, and Marvel scrapped it for a Falcon fight. After all, the entire sequence (breaking in to steal some gadget) felt completely unnecessary to the entire plot. It was only there to have one Avenger make a cameo. I could imagine Wright had a more elaborate fight sequence against unnamed guards (like what we saw in the test footage) that was just thrown away for an "Avenger" to show up on screen.

And the bit where Falcon said "Don't tell Capt about this" also felt out of place. Somebody just infiltrated the Avenger's facility. Falcon is a soldier first. He should have made sure the higher officers knew ASAP what happened. I also think if they did keep it in, he should have said, "Don't tell Steve about this." It puts it at a more personal level.

Also, Falcon is a terrible Avenger match-up, because he is clearly the weakest one of all of them. Black Widow could definitely kick Falcon's ass, and Hawkeye would end him before he ever got within 50 feet.

But I suppose for Civil War, it had to be Falcon on screen. Based on the end-credit scene, it looks like Capt and Falcon go their separate ways from The Avengers. This explains why he can't call Stark... it's not that he can't call Stark, but he can't communicate with any of the Avengers. That leads Falcon to recruit Scott.

notdeadyet01 · 19 points · Posted at 07:34:17 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

To be fair, I thought it set up the idea that Scott would need to shrink to destroy the suit from the inside.

TheWhinoceros · 1 points · Posted at 06:49:05 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Iron Man suit?

notdeadyet01 · 5 points · Posted at 06:55:21 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

What does that have to do with anything?

I'm talking about the Yellowjacket

[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 14:15:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved it as a scene but when fitting it in with the whole movie it felt so out of place and wrong to me. I really wanted to see Edgar Wright's vision of Ant-Man just being Ant-Man and not being bound to a greater universe and the movie felt like it almost did that except for when moments like that scene happened.

I did really like how it carried into the 2nd post-credit scene though. "I know a guy".

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 13:28:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did he quit the movie over the falcon fight? Supposedly he quit because they did a script rewrite without telling him because he was resisting the movie being made more a part of the greater MCU ( which seems just dumb)

ZerozakiIshiki · 4 points · Posted at 13:33:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was definitely the hardest fight to follow, so I'm guessing they didn't have his storyboards to work off of.

backtackback · 2 points · Posted at 21:20:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He had been developing the film since before the MCU was a thing, some seven years. They did a rewrite, he didn't like it, and walked. And it was fairly late leading up to production, like a month or two prior to shooting. Wright is notoriously meticulous and probably had his shoot scheduled just how he wanted it. I was happy with the finished product, but was very much looking forward to his visual flair and dynamic editing style.

vilkav · 2 points · Posted at 21:41:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

No, the falcon was Peyton Reed's idea. Edgar Wright didn't want Peggy/Howard in it. Also Janet's arc.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 22:06:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He quit over the cameo at the beginning? That's even dumber

vilkav · 4 points · Posted at 22:12:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm sure that that wasn't all, but it may have been the last straw. I also read somewhere that he wanted to make Pym a bit more of a villain than a hero.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:17:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

isn't he a wife beater in the comic?

vilkav · 3 points · Posted at 23:21:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

yeah, but he's got something akin to schizophrenia. He has his own anti-hero stories as, well, Yellow Jacket, but he is generally a good guy.

the-great-radsby · 2 points · Posted at 02:49:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That scene, and the scene with Louis getting into the bathtub and Scott running while yelling, "I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS" totally screamed Edgar Wright :D

zipzipzap · 1 points · Posted at 18:57:13 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm still bummed that Edgar Wright left, but this movie was great. Exceeded my expectations.

I do think that the Luis fast-cut-scenes seemed Edgar-Wright-inspired, but not quite hitting the mark. Overall, though, the movie was great. Great, inventive action and well-paced humor.

Iridium777 · 1 points · Posted at 22:54:12 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Cure

What was the song that was playing in the briefcase?

TylerOrtega1500 · 1 points · Posted at 23:11:14 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's called "Plainsong"

your_mind_aches · 1 points · Posted at 18:09:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I prefer it that Edgar Wright left. If not for him, we wouldn't have had the Janet Van Dyne storyline or the MCU connections.

filledwithwin · 1906 points · Posted at 01:34:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Man this movie was fun. They got the tone just right.

Also,

We got a guy who swings, we got a guy who climbs up the wall.

fuckitiamhonest · 726 points · Posted at 01:46:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I feel like a lot of people missed that one in my theater; I was so hyped!

LiteraryBoner · 752 points · Posted at 02:07:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They were probably busy laughing at Pena's hilarious narration.

Poonchow · 862 points · Posted at 04:44:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

So I was at the art gallery with my 'cus....

I love how both times they were settings where you would never expect a waffle-eating criminal to be "hanging out."

Kiram · 701 points · Posted at 08:21:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

And how he has a deep and abiding interest in what they were doing there. His lines about, "And you know I don't usually like reds, but there was one Rose there that totally saved it" and his knowledge of modern art made it that much funnier.

Poonchow · 462 points · Posted at 10:55:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's a great example of characterization. There's not a lot of time to convey this particular character, but he's important to getting the main characters where they need to go, so this situation has to be handled in an interesting manner. The character spews information to get the plot going, but does it in a way that's funny and tangible, so it doesn't actually feel like it's just a plot device. It's a really effective way of combining plot conveyance with humor with characterization, so much so that once all these elements are in play it doesn't really feel like a story telling mechanic.

Man, I'm just really impressed by the Marvel team of storytellers, because these particular situations come up over and over when you examine these films on paper but are conveyed in a way on screen such that everything still seems really entertaining.

Kiram · 172 points · Posted at 11:23:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That is pretty solidly in Edgar Wright's style. Which is actually I think one of the strengths of Marvel's approach. Pulling in directors with a unique style like Kenneth Branagh, James Gunn, and Joss Whedon really brings a lot to the table.

It remains to be seen how some of the sequels will play out, with the properties changing creative hands, but so far, the strong foundation has proved a massive boon to the series.

And even with Edgar Wright leaving the production, his fingerprints are all over the script, and it definitely turned up the charm. That's a good thing, since this movie was decidedly smaller (heh) in scope, and I think may have helped to reign in the spectacle creep that had started to set in.

scarleteagle · 42 points · Posted at 05:12:50 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Interestingly enough the tip scenes were not Wright's.

Poonchow · 10 points · Posted at 11:48:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's undeniably beneficial, and Disney / Marvel has found, in my eyes, a setting in which the collaborative process of film making actually benefits the experience rather than detracts. By filtering the unique style and creative efforts of the individual teams on these projects through the collective vision the Marvel team has, the films adopt a sense of "sameness" but reveal quirks each their own. It's really refreshing, and probably the only way such a massive project could really be accomplished. It's insane how a contiguous franchise can span so many different directors, writers, project managers, sets, and time-spans while still feeling like the same story progressing across a universe to be enjoyed by its fans. It's literally unprecedented, and I think some of the flaws of collaborative story design actually make this process work really well, despite the fact that I would say it's almost always a terrible mark on artistic film making as a storytelling element.

Imagine in the years to come sitting down and watching all these films and TV shows as one long story to be told. It's mesmerizing seeing the scope, and inspiring seeing it actually pulled off in real time.

Kiram · 8 points · Posted at 17:04:09 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think this movie is probably the biggest testament to that, from a behind-the-scenes perspective. Very few movies can change hands, go through 4(?!) different script writers, 2 directors (Wright wasn't ever on-set, but he did a bunch of story-boarding and had a big hand in casting, apparently, amoungst other things) and still come out as good as it has.

The focus of whatever team they have put together to run the Marvel Universe seems to be acting as a great focusing lens for this talent, bringing disparate views and styles into a unique whole.

It's doubly interesting, I think, because that is basically what the editors did in the earlier days of comics, and to a certain extent, still do today - taking crazy styles and genres and helping to forge them into a cohesive universe, or a single character's timeline. It's really pretty fascinating.

JavaNewie · 6 points · Posted at 01:05:47 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

and still come out as good as it has.

And it makes me wonder why Wright left. Obviously Disney was able to get in the creative elements that they wanted after he left, so what was his qualms about what they wanted to change? The only thing I can think of is integrating in The Avengers into the story, but it worked pretty well to tie this character into the larger universe.

SelfDeprecating · 2 points · Posted at 03:50:50 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's insane how a contiguous franchise can span so many different directors, writers, project managers, sets, and time-spans while still feeling like the same story progressing across a universe to be enjoyed by its fans. It's literally unprecedented

I could be wrong since I haven't watched many of them, but aren't the James Bond movies like this?

omgitsfletch · 4 points · Posted at 06:37:29 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

When you put the Daniel Craig Bond movies aside, the rest of them are one continuous universe in basic form only. I've felt that the bits used in older Bond movies to tie consecutive films together was always tenuous at best. The MCU feels like one cohesive unit, whereas the Bond universe has always been more of "here's the same general character doing the same general thing, but we've just tweaked the players, plot, and locales a bit. It's repetitive more than anything.

Now, this all doesn't apply to the Craig movies. They are in my opinion excellent and a total reboot of the franchise. They feel like a single piece like the MCU does, and you can see how some of the things Bond encounters as a young agent in Casino Royale in particular would harden him mentally very quickly and cause some of the development of that classic Bond attitude and demeanor. I can't wait to see what they do with SPECTRE.

[deleted] · 10 points · Posted at 07:57:11 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)*

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Poonchow · 3 points · Posted at 08:02:53 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh man, I hardly realized! Yeah, the guy just drops every person like he's been waiting to bust out those moves the whole time.

He's in the system!

I really hope Michael Peña gets a bit in Civil War. His character really tied that movie together.

wagellanofspain · 4 points · Posted at 12:54:57 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I love how Guardians does this as well. The scene where they're all being booked is like a minute and a half straight of character backstory but you don't really notice it cause it feels natural

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:42:18 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

bruh i need to read this again this is a great tip

dexter30 · 1 points · Posted at 22:23:42 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just the footnotes, man

kickshaw · 7 points · Posted at 16:33:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I feel like Luis and Pepper Potts would have deep and thoughtful conversations about modern art, and the world would be better for it.

Mange-Tout · 13 points · Posted at 14:49:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"You know how I like Rothko."

That line absolutely slayed me.

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 17:18:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

At the art gallery, he's holding a glass of rosé too haha

Seymour_Scagnetti · 3 points · Posted at 03:41:02 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

He's partial to neo-cubism

coozgoblin · 4 points · Posted at 14:39:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I feel so dumb for missing that aspect of the joke (wine tasting and art gallery).

TheGeordie · 4 points · Posted at 13:09:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I lol'ed when he said "I don't like that picture because I'm more of a neo-cubist kind of guy". :D

Scout_022 · 2 points · Posted at 20:54:00 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

that Rothko was pretty sweet though.

waunakonor · 3 points · Posted at 04:15:58 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Was that art gallery the one Vanessa owns in Daredevil?

suss2it · 2 points · Posted at 03:37:55 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure Ant-Man didn't take place in New York.

dabumtsss · 1 points · Posted at 05:52:38 on August 3, 2015 · (Permalink)

No, it looked much larger and with a different layout. Not to mention they live in SF, where the gallery Luis visited probably was, whereas Vanessa's gallery is in NYC.

RageKnify · 2 points · Posted at 21:18:36 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I found it hilarious you could see his accent in the people's mouths as they spoke.

TheRedComet · 2 points · Posted at 20:34:58 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

I fucking lost it when he started talking about how the Rothko was sublime. I've had so many discussions about whether Rothko is worthwhile art or not.

gazow · 2 points · Posted at 02:27:44 on August 2, 2015 · (Permalink)

speaking of... any idea what the black and white painting was?

smileyman · 1 points · Posted at 05:46:54 on August 11, 2015 · (Permalink)

It might be Rothko's "The Black and the White", but if it is they're hanging it upside down . . .

gazow · 1 points · Posted at 21:53:06 on August 11, 2015 · (Permalink)

no no, the one right before that, it looked similar to picasso's guernica but it wasnt quite the same

smileyman · 1 points · Posted at 23:02:46 on August 11, 2015 · (Permalink)

Looks more like a Jackson Pollock to me. I don't think it is a Pollock, but that's what it kind of reminds me of.

GhostfaceNoah · 3 points · Posted at 15:46:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Luis really stole the entire movie.

HoliestDonut · 2 points · Posted at 03:50:21 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It seemed like a scene Edgar Wright made and they didn't cut it out.

RepublicofTim · 1 points · Posted at 04:37:22 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Actually those two "tips" scenes weren't in Wright's original script. They do seem like something he would make though.

SIMULATIONTERMINATED · 6 points · Posted at 05:35:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just got out of a showing at the Drafthouse. My theater went fucking nuts for that. It was amazing. First mention of Spidey in the MCU.

falconbox · 4 points · Posted at 05:35:43 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Feige actually stated that that line wasn't even referencing Spider-Man, and that it was in the movie before they even made the deal to bring Spidey into the universe.

kiaha · 3 points · Posted at 06:59:54 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

There were silent gasps when I saw it. We knew. We knew.

edwartica · 3 points · Posted at 22:37:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

My girlfriend told me to calm down because I was so excited to hear that. I was like "but that's spiderman!!!!"

rodblt2221 · 148 points · Posted at 02:16:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What did he say before he said that? Because I'm pretty sure he mentioned 3 things: we got a guy who ____, a guy who swings, a guy who crawls. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[deleted] · 198 points · Posted at 02:24:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Jumps. Which could still be referring to spider-man.

Slickrickkk · 294 points · Posted at 04:56:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Saying "a guy" each time makes it sound as they have 3 different guys. Could've been worded better.

Mushroomer · 51 points · Posted at 06:45:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Maybe they don't realize they're all the same guy. Maybe Parker went through a few variations of specialized suits, and SHIELD got fooled into thinking there were three Spidermen.

Or maybe Marvel wasn't positive about the Sony deal, so they insisted on the vaguest possible tease that they could write around if things went sour.

Slickrickkk · 11 points · Posted at 06:47:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Or maybe Marvel wasn't positive about the Sony deal, so they insisted on the vaguest possible tease that they could write around if things went sour.

I don't think it works like that. Especially when they already announced it and everything. Marvel would not allow them to be able to pull out because "things went sour".

Mushroomer · 13 points · Posted at 07:20:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

You have to think about the timing of Ant-Man - when the film had wrapped filming, the deal with Sony hadn't been finalized yet. So a clear-cut Spiderman reference could be problematic.

idlestone · 8 points · Posted at 08:09:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If that was the case, they wouldn't have said "a guy that swings" at all. Unless Swingman decided to make an appearance on Civil War.

KingofCraigland · 1 points · Posted at 18:02:50 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

Maybe he shares his partner with other men?

smokeyzulu · 1 points · Posted at 20:30:03 on August 31, 2015 · (Permalink)

Daredevil's only noticeable thing is that he swings with his billy-clubs. It's a stretch but they could have made it work.

EDIT: Yes, I know I;m late to the party. I just had to answer that.

Slickrickkk · 3 points · Posted at 08:27:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I believe they went back and did reshoots, unless I'm mistaken. Not to mention, there's absolutely no way they'd put in a reference as obvious as a guy who "swings, jumps, and crawls on walls" unless Spider-Man was definitely going to make an appearance someday.

Alinosburns · 1 points · Posted at 08:57:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Which is why you know you film a couple of different variations, In one you drop spiderman. In another a different random hero.

KingOfAwesometonia · 76 points · Posted at 07:07:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't know if you caught this but Luis is a bad storyteller.

Slickrickkk · 3 points · Posted at 08:28:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I did. That's why he could have worded it better...

[deleted] · 12 points · Posted at 11:59:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That also implies that Spider-Man is SO NEW in this world, that they think it's 3 guys! Story hasn't gotten around yet, and Pete's just starting out with maybe a few variations of his costume, making it seem like 3 different guys

Smalz22 · 10 points · Posted at 15:07:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They all characterize Spider-man, but they could also all characterize other people individually. I think it was a shout-out to Spidey while not specifically saying spider. But also Luis filled his stories with excess information, so it could be him just getting excited

Slickrickkk · -5 points · Posted at 20:04:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I already know. Check my other comments.

apocalypsenowandthen · 6 points · Posted at 09:18:09 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Identity Crisis confirmed.

Mijder · 2 points · Posted at 02:30:28 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I remember that storyline being more fun than it was...or I'm missing some issues.

frinkhutz · 3 points · Posted at 19:13:27 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I definitely interpreted it as 3 different guys

shotterken · 2 points · Posted at 14:59:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Couldn't a guy who swings be Thor who swings his hammer? Although the journalist probably would know who the guy is and just say his name then.

AkaBBaka · 5 points · Posted at 05:56:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I haven't watched the Netflix series yet, but I know that comic-book Daredevil also swings around - maybe they're referencing him (even if he hasn't done it in the series)

Slickrickkk · 2 points · Posted at 20:05:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

And she would know Falcon already knows him.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 03:06:47 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

What I was thinking was that Spidey doesn't have a suit yet so it's different point of views of him getting around New York.

What they think is 3 different guys is just a kid with what I hope isn't organic web shooters, trying to avoid public transport.

dalr3th1n · 2 points · Posted at 03:12:24 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I've also seen speculation that it could be Hulk who jumps, Thor who swings (his hammer), and Spiderman who climbs walls.

Slickrickkk · 2 points · Posted at 03:14:15 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hulk who jumps, Thor who swings (his hammer)

I'm not wragging on you, but that speculation is kinda dumb. Jumping is not what you'd use to describe Hulk nor would "swings" be what you use to describe Thor.

dalr3th1n · 1 points · Posted at 04:05:04 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Perhaps not. However, this is coming down filtered through several voices, including Luis's. We may not be hearing the original phrasing.

Slickrickkk · 1 points · Posted at 08:36:26 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes, but I think that it is worded to seem as though it's three different people is just because Luis is a bad storyteller, which was intentional.

boner_jamz_69 · 1 points · Posted at 11:32:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's what i was thinking! I asked my friends afterwards who was the guy who climes up walls cause obviously the guy who swings is spiderman.

soulbreaker1418 · 1 points · Posted at 16:22:11 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

i do think she was reffering to 3 different guys... Daredevil and Moon Knight maybe?

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 14:28:52 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Or it could be three different guys. These are pretty generic powers. Daredevil swings in the comics.

Slickrickkk · 0 points · Posted at 18:22:25 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Daredevil swings in the comics.

Sorry, we're talking about the MCU though.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 18:30:30 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

We don't know what he's been up to since he got his new duds.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 18:43:20 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

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[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 18:58:29 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Literally talking about a character not currently in the MCU being hinted at at the end of the movie and you're saying this? Top kek.

TheRealExBattousai · 0 points · Posted at 04:08:09 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, those are things that a spider does. And he actually does whatever a spider can.

IntendoPrinceps · 3 points · Posted at 05:28:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Batroc the Leaper returns as a good guy?

RuffRhyno · 2 points · Posted at 19:03:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought the guy who jumps was the Hulk. But maybe he's the guy who swings? Or they all can be applied to Spider-man lol

Jimmyg100 · 2 points · Posted at 05:43:58 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Or the Grasshopper ...possibly hinting at the Great Lakes Avengers?

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:08:29 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Or Jump Man! Super Mario confirmed for Avengers 3

Dominiking · 1 points · Posted at 15:01:35 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Daredevil?

RubberDong · 1 points · Posted at 22:39:08 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

the hulk jumped his way to Africa or something...

TouchdownJesus_ · 1 points · Posted at 00:00:26 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Could be Black Panther?

filledwithwin · 1 points · Posted at 02:34:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah I think he did but I can't remember either.

ThatMarkGuy · 1 points · Posted at 02:52:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Im pretty sure they said "jumps"

wingzero00 · 252 points · Posted at 01:49:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Is spiderman confirmed for civil war?

filledwithwin · 348 points · Posted at 01:57:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think he has been for a while now.

wingzero00 · 56 points · Posted at 01:58:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Is it a cameo or an actual role?

NanoGeek · 120 points · Posted at 02:05:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He apparently does have scenes with Stark and Rodgers. At least I presume so. They did screen tests with both actors.

Buck1286 · 4 points · Posted at 02:44:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

*Rogers

TheHandyman1 · 2 points · Posted at 06:51:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It all depends on your definition of a cameo is my guess. More time than Liam Neeson in Entourage, but nothing too significant.

MondayAssasin · 1 points · Posted at 02:24:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I totally expect Spidey to be geeking out at both of them. Stark because Parker's a science geek and Rodgers because he's basically what all heroes strive to be.

neosporify · 1 points · Posted at 19:08:02 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

In the comics, Spidey sees Tony Stark as his hero. So I'm sure they'll portay that in the movie.

MondayAssasin · 3 points · Posted at 20:26:06 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yep, and he also looks up to Cap. Peter looks at Stark as his Science hero while he looks at Rodgers as his superhero.

CochMaestro · -3 points · Posted at 03:58:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

~~Did you stay after the credits? I think he was the one Cap and Falcon are taking too...~~

Edit: it was bucky :/

Korten12 · 9 points · Posted at 01:58:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes. Played by Tom Holland.

BlackFireXSamin · 10 points · Posted at 02:19:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

For anyone who's feeling like this right now, it's the guy on the left, Tom Holland as Peter Parker with bonus Joe Bernthal as Punisher

Wombat_H · 6 points · Posted at 02:38:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did you intentionally pick a picture where we can barely see him?

BlackFireXSamin · 9 points · Posted at 02:43:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

:( just picked one that was relevant to the MCU

Here's a better one

DaLateDentArthurDent · 1 points · Posted at 08:11:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Also before anyone gets hyped. This ain't Marvel filming. They're shooting an indie film together at the moment

prophetofgreed · 6 points · Posted at 05:28:00 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

They state that Spider-Man will appear before his solo movie in the MCU.

The only movies that are before that movie is Ant-Man, Doctor Strange and Civil War. Ant-Man it was too late for, Doctor Strange is not a fit, so that leaves only Civil War, an event Spidey is a big part of in the comics, makes sense he'd appear there.

Con0rr · 4 points · Posted at 17:49:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

My buddy is a set photographer for both Ant-Man, Civil War, and is signed on for Guardians 2. (We're based in Atlanta).

He told me about Anthony Mackie in Ant Man awhile back, so he knows what he's talking about. He said he's done some work with Holland this past week. So he's pretty much confirmed.

DK3141 · 1 points · Posted at 12:47:25 on July 28, 2015 · (Permalink)

I would be pretty mad if a friend had spoilered me that scene with falcon before.

Pandagames · 2 points · Posted at 02:00:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure he has been for like months

CrystalElyse · 2 points · Posted at 02:21:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Confirmed to be in it for months, but the official casting announcement was very recent (somewhere in the last 8 weeks).

RubberDong · 1 points · Posted at 22:40:42 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes. Sadly, no Amazing Spiderman 3 though! Which makes me sad because I honestly believe the Amazing Spiderman is the best Spiderman we have ever gotten,

and I honestly believe that Marvel will not do a good job with Spiderman.

Marvel movies are ok, but DC and Fox superhero movies are great. Except from a few of them of course. Some are great.

wingzero00 · 2 points · Posted at 01:54:44 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Heh, the old spiderman was great, one of the best superhero movies ever. But the new one was mediocre and ASM 2 was a clusterfuck. Marvel generally have been producing good films, just that they are getting stale after following the same formula. I wouldnt write Marvel off yet.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:23:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's old news.

RustyDetective · -1 points · Posted at 03:19:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If they want to do it right, Spiderman had to be a central figure.

seniorkite · 1 points · Posted at 13:57:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They could do Civil War right without Spider-man being in it at all. You could literally replace him with any hero and it wouldn't affect the story much. It would be absolutely ridiculous for Marvel to reveal Spider-man's secret identity in the MCU on his FIRST appearance.

RustyDetective · 1 points · Posted at 15:12:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was just curious, because all other heroes have their identities revealed. Unless they're going to fight over Wakanda?

seniorkite · 1 points · Posted at 15:34:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

My guess: World is pissed at the Avengers for the Sokovia/Ultron debacle. Government pushes for registration act to keep tabs on heroes - make them more like world police opposed to vigilantes.

Wakanda/Black Panther is super pissed that tons of Vibranium was stolen from Wakanda to fuel Ultron's army, so Panther gets involved (it's been reported that he stays neutral).

Spider-man, or some other hero.. Steps up as the first hero to publicly support the registration act WITHOUT revealing their secret identity. And if they do, it would be to the government only.

Keep in mind, we still have Daredevil and Bucky who aren't known to the public. I think we'll start seeing more secret identities as a result of whatever happens in Civil War.

RustyDetective · 1 points · Posted at 16:00:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That is true. Hopefully Bucky becomes Capt. America haha.

seniorkite · 2 points · Posted at 17:06:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yep, that'd be awesome.

JavaNewie · 1 points · Posted at 01:19:06 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Civil War would include two heroes with IDs not known to the government: Ant-Man & Spider-Man. Although, if Cross was able to find out Ant-Man was Scott Lang, there's probably a good chance he revealed that to Hydra and/or Shield figures it out as well. Plus, based on the events of the film, clearly Pym knows so they could go through him. As well, clearly Falcon figures it out (or at least can contact him) by Civil War.

Not to mention the range of other super-powered individuals who existed in the universe: Iron Monger, Abomination, Winter Soldier, Maleketh, etc.

RustyDetective · 1 points · Posted at 02:07:29 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Based off the whole Hydra buying Yellow Jacket, and then taking serum, they probably know Land. But, yes, fair point. Daredevil would be my biggest hope.

JavaNewie · 0 points · Posted at 01:35:42 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh yeah, forget about Daredevil. Only seen about 1/3 of those episodes. I think there are a couple in Shield as well, aren't there (but none are in the movie that I am aware of). Although the MCU and MTU are one in the same, there's not a lot of cross over.

reece1495 · 3 points · Posted at 04:06:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

arnt both of those spiderman

Intensity_IV · 3 points · Posted at 20:14:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Who was that woman in the first place? Was she from AoS or just some random new character?

ThatMarkGuy · 5 points · Posted at 01:44:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

SPIDER-MAN HYPE

DaCodster · 2 points · Posted at 00:26:36 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I grinned like an idiot when that was dropped. I'm so excited.

DydoDeChamp · 1 points · Posted at 04:40:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Must've missed that when did they say that?

gatsby365 · 1 points · Posted at 04:50:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

IN FEIGE WE TRUST.

mr_popcorn · 1 points · Posted at 11:47:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm all aboard the Thomas the Tank Engine hype train. Man, I can't wait for Civil War!

Samablam · 1 points · Posted at 03:23:36 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone got a link to a video of that? I saw the movie but I guess I missed that part 😢😢😢

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:07:24 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

That scene, what was the question being asked that Falcon responded "yes" to? I couldn't understand.

2ero · 1 points · Posted at 06:33:17 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

The giant tangent at the end about Falcon was hilarious.

[deleted] · -14 points · Posted at 04:56:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What is with /r/movies recent obsession with saying movies are fun?!?! It is so recent and it confuses me.

Movies are enjoyable. Movies are entertaining. Hell, movies are awesome!

But fun? That's...such a strange word to describe sitting there watching a movie.

I actually knew with 100% certainty that when I opened this thread that the top comment would be calling this movie "fun". And I was right!

SgtPowerWeiner · 2 points · Posted at 03:00:24 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

You dont have fun watching movies? I have fun playing video games too and my fat ass is just sitting there

[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 06:56:11 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

You're actually controlling and interacting with everything going on in the video game.

Movies are being presented to you. It's just a weird word to describe movies that reddit now recently has a strange obsession with using.

If there was a drinking game on how many top comments use the word "fun" to describe a new movie, I would get drunk after one discussion thread on reddit.

"Just turn your brain off! It's a super fun popcorn movie!"

[deleted] · 896 points · Posted at 01:35:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

This movie actually surpassed my expectations, honestly I laughed really hard at some points. You should go watch it

casos92 · 452 points · Posted at 05:08:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Every Michael Peña line was outstanding

BPsandman84 · 250 points · Posted at 06:54:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Dude needs to be in more movies. Supremely underrated actor.

ramblersrambling · 19 points · Posted at 03:37:48 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't if he can be in more movies, I feel like he's in everything. He starred in a whopping SIX movies in 2011, one in 2012, a few in 2013 and 2014 and is going star in five this year alone.

isrly_eder · 17 points · Posted at 05:37:05 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

he is great in End of Watch, superb performance in one of my all-time favourite films

narcolepsyinc · 10 points · Posted at 14:45:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He was my favorite part about Observe and Report.

bdong002 · 16 points · Posted at 03:52:22 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really liked him in Fury.

tigerdrummer · 4 points · Posted at 22:21:04 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Peña

He'll be playing an important character in The Martian.

rentonwong · 2 points · Posted at 16:17:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

He did a good job in "Sniper". Check it out

ButchTheKitty · 8 points · Posted at 21:17:17 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Do you mean Shooter?

rentonwong · 1 points · Posted at 04:11:07 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes that one

soulbreaker1418 · 2 points · Posted at 16:16:59 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

it is beyond me why he isn´t a star, at least as a supporting actor

ClintonHarvey · 2 points · Posted at 07:54:22 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

What? He's all over the place. I first got hit by his comedic talents in "30 minutes or less"

proddy · 1 points · Posted at 11:38:51 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

He's so goddamn positive

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:23:57 on July 28, 2015 · (Permalink)

His range is incredible. I feel like he's noticeably different in Crash, End of Watch, and Ant Man. 30 Minutes or Less also had him play Luis amped up to 11 haha

Foamie · 14 points · Posted at 13:17:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The flashback stories he told were probably my favorite parts of the movie.

Sparkvoltage · 6 points · Posted at 03:57:10 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Peña is the funniest person in the movie imo which is an achievement considering Paul Rudd's the main character.

karpenterskids · 7 points · Posted at 21:15:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Walking into this movie, I was certain I wasn't going to like him. I couldn't have been more wrong. The dude absolutely stole every scene he was in.

Jannarious · 4 points · Posted at 01:13:51 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Two smoothie machines.

chris2webby · 457 points · Posted at 02:48:09 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

giant Thomas the Tank laying in the street with it's eyes rolling back and forth was hilarious

EDIT: I guess I either meant "Thomas the TRAIN" or "Thomas the TANK ENGINE", not "Thomas the TANK"!!!

gatsby365 · 367 points · Posted at 04:56:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was sitting there during the train fight thinking "I really wish they hadn't given the best parts away during the trailer..."

Then bam, giant ant dog and a fucking massive toy train on the lawn. Jesus, Marvel.

black-ra1n54 · 195 points · Posted at 05:47:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought they had too, but that fight with Falcon was awesome, the reference to spider-man was cool, and the actor who played Luis was great.

rbarton812 · 3 points · Posted at 15:04:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What was the reference to Spiderman?

Kosko · 16 points · Posted at 16:15:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"We got a guy who swings, we got a guy that climbs walls"

Mordby · 7 points · Posted at 18:55:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"You gotta be more specific."

WadeK · 2 points · Posted at 14:06:14 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

So I wonder... does this mean the Spiderman movie will be a flashback, or will it not be an origin story?

Valdrbjorn · 1 points · Posted at 20:06:34 on August 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's for sure NOT going to be an origin story.

OfficerMurphy · 1 points · Posted at 00:27:10 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Pena crushes it in all his roles

black-ra1n54 · 3 points · Posted at 00:33:06 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

So fantastic. I imagined he only had a couple lines (probably just the story scenes) but he did so well they wrote his character in more.

[deleted] · 13 points · Posted at 03:13:53 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

not to mention a tank exploding out of the Pym tech building

"this isnt just a key chain"

gatsby365 · 2 points · Posted at 03:21:36 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wanted that to be a real tank, so very much, when he went into the building the first time.

TWK128 · 9 points · Posted at 05:52:47 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Don't forget the tank launching out of the building. That would've been easy trailer fodder in weaker hands.

suss2it · 5 points · Posted at 03:40:25 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not to mention the not a keychain tank keychain.

morphinapg · 1 points · Posted at 07:31:46 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Glad I didn't watch the trailers as that whole scene was hilariously unexpected for me

shotterken · 5 points · Posted at 14:56:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I just wish they kept that sad sound the train makes when it crashes. It was at the end of the 2nd trailer but not in the movie.

HeirOfTheSurvivor · 1 points · Posted at 10:06:06 on August 2, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, I noticed that. Was gutted in the cinema :P

mythmaniac · 5 points · Posted at 14:15:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, there was a tank rofl.

ShasOFish · 3 points · Posted at 05:25:52 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was half expecting that the fact that it was a T-34 tank (I.e., a Russian tank) to have held more significance, rather than simply being a tank.

...Although, now that I think about it, how would he have gotten a Russian tank in the first place? Methinks a prequel is needed.

snarkamedes · 3 points · Posted at 15:06:02 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

In the prequel comic he ran a mission into east Berlin for SHIELD to steal some tech back off the Stasi. If he'd been doing that for a while he'd have had opportunity to pinch a tank at some point.

theReluctantHipster · 1 points · Posted at 21:53:23 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

No, Thomas the Tank is better than Thomas the Train. At least it's close.

Gguga12 · 1 points · Posted at 03:04:37 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

THOMAS THE DANK ENGINE

ldnk · 1 points · Posted at 03:06:45 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was like watching the Skyrim mod when the train came out through the house and crashed into the ground.

HeirOfTheSurvivor · 0 points · Posted at 10:06:24 on August 2, 2015 · (Permalink)

This is genuinely what I thought at the time.

untrustableskeptic · 124 points · Posted at 03:55:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The trailers tone was so off. I really didn't have high expectations for this film, but I really was invested.

Kosko · 8 points · Posted at 16:19:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I kept wanting Cap to show up and say "Language."

rad0909 · 7 points · Posted at 03:48:35 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah the trailer did nothing for me. Went to go it anyways cause you know...marvel. Turned out to be an awesome surprise. I loved the comedic tone they created to play around Paul rudd's style

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 01:03:08 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

This movie was betrayed by its trailers. They made it feel like 'just another superhero movie' but it actually became something entirely unique in the superhero genre. To me, at least. It had heart, humor, and you could feel that Edgar Wright humor and timing even though he wasn't Directing.

I_am_BEOWULF · 595 points · Posted at 02:10:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Avon Barksdale screeching about the "messed up dog" had me choking on my coke.

humanbeingarobot · 56 points · Posted at 08:56:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ha, Barksdale.

McMqsmith · 27 points · Posted at 16:23:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Glad to see he's doing well after playing football for Denzel.

tobephair · 23 points · Posted at 23:53:49 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Guy in my screening shouted "Where's Wallace?" when Avon Barksdale showed up. I laughed hard.

Akindofcheese · 7 points · Posted at 11:32:39 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Notice how it was Avon Barksdale and Gyp Rossetti as the detectives? That was good

Used_Pants · 2 points · Posted at 04:59:33 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's so nice to see that you were so happy to see Paul Rudd!

8nate · 2 points · Posted at 02:45:51 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

Avon really turned it around after his stint in prison.

ChickenPlunger · -21 points · Posted at 04:57:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why would you do drugs at a theater? /s

[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 17:59:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"No. Whistling." Whistles 'It's a small world' while infiltrating the evil base of evilness.

denizenKRIM · 3 points · Posted at 04:30:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I was convinced this was going to be Marvel's first misstep (box office wise). But as someone who had low expectations and ended up LOVING it, this is going to have great word of mouth.

I typically don't like when Marvel forces humor, but it's clear Reed at the helm made it feel natural. They nailed the tone. Kudos to everyone, especially on such short notice.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 07:50:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah Ant-Man is going to pull an Edge of Tomorrow and slow burn into massive box office I think. Theres no way that it dowsn't have fantastic word of mouth advertising.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 15:17:22 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think it's because they went with a comedic heist kind of movie, that just happens to involve a superhero. It works. Pena was in a previous heist movie - Tower Heist.

mikeweasy · 2 points · Posted at 06:13:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

me too although I was hoping it would be good and it didnt dissapoint!!!!!

Dr_Disaster · 1 points · Posted at 18:40:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Same here. I expected to just maybe like this movie and I ended up loving it. Though somewhat of a typical Marvel movie, it has a lot of heart and just the right tone. This may be one of my favorite Marvel movies now, right behind Avengers, Winter Soldier, and Iron Man.

stadlerman · 644 points · Posted at 06:53:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ant-man had his suit set to "M" for "Mini"... to get out of the subatomic level, he just had to set it to "W" for "Wumbo".

spectrem · 43 points · Posted at 02:15:48 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wumbo, you wumbo, he she me wumbo?? Wumboing, wumbology, the study of wumbo?

AllforOne1forAll · 28 points · Posted at 04:32:27 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's first grade Scott.

twitchedawake · 20 points · Posted at 00:51:49 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

He replaced the Regulator with the Rebigulator.

LetMeHearAStory · 7 points · Posted at 05:16:00 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

WUMBOLOGY, THE STUDY OF WUMBO

Dookie_boy · -21 points · Posted at 15:17:14 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

To go big, set to "J" for Jumbo

Yurichi · 8 points · Posted at 07:07:30 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

IT'S FIRST GRADE SPONGEBOB!

[deleted] · 560 points · Posted at 08:22:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Hi, my name's Scott."

rohay · 447 points · Posted at 09:21:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Did he just say My name's Scott."

flamingeyebrows · 168 points · Posted at 13:29:24 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

That and 'Did I just ruin the moment?' was my two favourite Scott lines.

TwelfthCycle · 87 points · Posted at 22:11:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

"No, no no, I'm not stealing anything, I was just returning something that... I stole..."

The expression on his face was awesome.

Shup · 16 points · Posted at 14:45:03 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I could hear the comedic "I dun fucked up" track from every comedy show ever play at that moment. Hilarious!

Tkn412tor · 50 points · Posted at 00:38:20 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't know if I was just oblivious to casting announcements or if they hid it that well but I was so surprised and pumped to see the Falcon in this movie

[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 02:07:12 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

They actually showed falcon in a commercial last week, so...not as well hidden as it could have been.

NefariousNeezy · 3 points · Posted at 20:28:48 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

I love Paul Rudd. Most of his comedic lines were stereotypical Paul Rudd. His wave goodbye to his daughter reminded me of his character in I Love You, Man.

chris2webby · 341 points · Posted at 13:58:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

just remembered another funny scene that I didn't see anyone mention yet:

when Antman hit Yellowjacket with the ping pong paddle!

svrtngr · 256 points · Posted at 00:05:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know it was anticlimactic, but that would have been hysterical if it killed him.

onlyforthisair · 16 points · Posted at 00:39:37 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought it did, but then he got defibrillated by it back to life in the bug zapper.

dismal626 · 16 points · Posted at 05:37:02 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I was convinced it was legit, considering how Avengers 1 Spoiler in the first Avengers in such ridiculous and hasty fashion.

[deleted] · 18 points · Posted at 01:13:29 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

My god, from the time they get sealed in the briefcase until that point was just pure insanity, my theater was roaring. ROARING. And when he jumps out of the pool with a little DOIIIP sound, I lost it.

Krusiv · 4 points · Posted at 00:48:01 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wish my theater experiences were like that. Can you believe that my entire theater was silent during all of Mad Max Fury Road?

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:38:24 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

I can. They did at mine, too. I think it was too weird for them.

Lostredshoe · 6 points · Posted at 11:30:00 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh you mean the scene where the super villain in the army destroying super suit got taken out by a ping ping paddle?

jagfanjosh3252 · 948 points · Posted at 02:44:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

FUCKING FINALLY HAD A SPIDER-MAN DROP!!

All aboard the big ass Thomas the Tank engine hype train!!

CHOO-CHOO MOTHER FUCKERS

your_mind_aches · 296 points · Posted at 18:01:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Spider-Man drop was a complete coincidence. Feige said the line was written and filmed before Marvel made the deal with Sony! Haha!

morphinapg · 44 points · Posted at 07:27:22 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's a clear reference to spidey whether they admit it or not. There's nothing else it could mean.

your_mind_aches · 81 points · Posted at 07:34:55 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm not denying that. I'm saying that it went from being a cheeky lawyer-safe reference to Spidey to foreshadowing his appearance in the MCU.

Mordby · 20 points · Posted at 19:01:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's funny.

Willie9 · 51 points · Posted at 21:16:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thomas the Dank Engine

[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 01:56:32 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

/r/thomasthedankengine

Corrupt_Individual · 10 points · Posted at 11:38:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Spidey!

CyKoToaster · 9 points · Posted at 19:07:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

So at the time of Ant Man Peter Parker is like 15

FerrisWheeling · 7 points · Posted at 08:20:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They did? I missed it.

Screamline · 41 points · Posted at 08:38:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

When he tells the story of the super fine hot report chick, she says we got a guy who climbs , a guy who swings...

FerrisWheeling · 23 points · Posted at 08:54:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ah yes, see, I was too excited to listen because I recognized her as Anna Akana and my buddies didn't know who she is.

Nanosauromo · 14 points · Posted at 21:34:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wait, that was Anna Akana? She played Batista in Wrestling Isn't Wrestling, and Batista is Drax... That means.... something, I'm tired.

(Go watch that Wrestling short, it's awesome.)

jellytrack · 7 points · Posted at 20:16:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I had no idea, but I thought she looked familiar. While I'm not into YouTube personalities, I do remember her from =3

dvidsilva · 2 points · Posted at 20:42:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Same, I got all excited and my friend didn't know why. She's super cute :P

Estivenrex18 · 0 points · Posted at 20:47:59 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Her critic videos are shitty,she seems too full of herself.

dvidsilva · 2 points · Posted at 20:59:49 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yep. Agree but she's cute :p

Estivenrex18 · 1 points · Posted at 21:07:53 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

10/10 would bang

TheKobraKid · 6 points · Posted at 06:38:54 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I decided to see it in 3D on a recommendation (trust me: the movie is superb in 3D) so I knew that there would be less people there, but when they were name-dropping people, the Wasp scene, and the Civil War thing, no one but me was freaking the fuck out. It felt weird, because during Age Of Ultron opening day (packed theater, 2D) everyone was freaking out.

ClarkZuckerberg · 3 points · Posted at 05:54:49 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wait what? I missed something Spider-Man related??? What was it?

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 08:36:37 on July 30, 2015 · (Permalink)

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ClarkZuckerberg · 3 points · Posted at 10:43:16 on July 30, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know now it was when the Asian girl that was the "super fine" girl near the end was talking to Falcon she said something like "we got a guy who swings on webs, we got a guy who climbs up walls".

Biff_Tannenator · 2 points · Posted at 03:42:27 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

Choo-Choo-Choose sides mother fuckers!

Hylian49 · 1 points · Posted at 07:30:39 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

choo-choo bitches!

johncosta · 1 points · Posted at 18:57:13 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can someone explain this to me?

irbian · 1 points · Posted at 22:01:17 on August 7, 2015 · (Permalink)

I need a gif of this

DSC_ · 392 points · Posted at 02:58:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

For anyone wanting to rewatch that sweet, sweet, Civil War tease.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlRMEny3Nys&feature=youtu.be

AmusedDragon · 135 points · Posted at 04:09:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What did falcon say during the line "Who knows if the (i miss this word) will let him help?

I keep missing that word, can't make it out.

Fildo28 · 143 points · Posted at 04:32:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I want to say "courts" or "accords"

I was having a hard time too.

MrLuquinhas · 40 points · Posted at 04:44:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just watched the movie, it was "accords". As a comic noob I got no idea what that meant. If someone can help :P

Awoawesome · 55 points · Posted at 06:34:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Going out on a limb here… perhaps some kind of peace keep accords or talks that could lead to the official introduction of the Superhero Registration Act in Civil War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registration_acts_(comics)#2006_Superhuman_Registration_Act

EurbadGeneric · 8 points · Posted at 20:59:33 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Accords.

Source: Dutch subtitles said "Akkoorden"

Deathsuxdontdie · 24 points · Posted at 06:34:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's accords. It's a reference to the Civil War storyline. :)

Fildo28 · 6 points · Posted at 06:41:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What does it mean! What does it mean!

KingOfAwesometonia · 11 points · Posted at 07:12:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

accords

So an accord, I believe, can be applied to multiple types of legal agreements between two parties. In this case it might be the government and someone like Tony Stark agreeing to register and regulate the superhero community.

My definition of accord could be way off. It's one of the words you hear a lot but never bother to look up in detail.

Rogers doesn't like this, then civil war.

BoomBabyDaggers · 13 points · Posted at 01:52:47 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I drive one

AkaBBaka · 2 points · Posted at 07:05:45 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

So... that means you're on Stark's side, then?

dating_derp · 1 points · Posted at 22:06:14 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It sounds like it is but it's weird if court sessions already happened without being shown anywhere. That's a lot to gloss over and say already happened.

Deathsuxdontdie · 3 points · Posted at 04:51:21 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think the post-credit scene will be after the events of the beginning of the Civil War movie. It has more to do with Ant Man than the civil war situation itself.

metallicabmc · 3 points · Posted at 10:29:43 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

I heard that the post credits scene was just an actual clip from the Civil War movie.

freefoodisgood · 6 points · Posted at 02:16:57 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I watched it outside the U.S. with Spanish subtitles and it was translated as accords

mrshock13 · 2 points · Posted at 21:27:54 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yep, it's accords.

Zeirokhan · 2 points · Posted at 21:56:14 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm pretty positive it was accords. Maybe Tony is answering to Fury's old bosses now?

DarthMaul27 · 2 points · Posted at 06:01:40 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Accords" according to EW

TalkinFicusMonkey · 1 points · Posted at 01:04:57 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure it's accords. I'm guessing the civil war movie won't be about registration like in the comic but instead be a body that controls what the superheroes can do. So even if they wanted tony there he couldn't.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:43:45 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought it was accords but what are they talking about? TINFOIL: that end-credit scene is from Civil War and I bet there were some sort of superhero peace agreement that took place before that scene, and Cap doesn't want Tony to know because they are on opposite sides of the superhero registration act.

brooklahn · 1 points · Posted at 22:44:48 on August 2, 2015 · (Permalink)

Accords. As in "Sokovia Accords" - the MCU equivalent to the superhuman registration act.

My guess is Bucky does SOMETHING in Sokovia (assassination?) at the beginning of Civil War that is misunderstood and Cap finds him & gets him out under his own protection.

Don't think Bucky was captured in that mid-credits scene... I think they were working on his arm. Maybe trying to change something in it so he can't be tracked? Maybe they wanted Lang (who they went out of their way to frame as an electrical engineer) for his more normal skills as much as his shrinkadoo?

Swords_Not_Words · 18 points · Posted at 05:27:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was definitely "accords." Seems like it takes place mid-Civil War

johncosta · 1 points · Posted at 19:04:18 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think Feige confirmed this scene in one way or another (recut or otherwise) is in Civil War, so yeah.

WOWOWIWOW · 6 points · Posted at 07:08:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Sounded to me like "accord", as in an agreement of some sort. Like even if Stark was willing to help, the Superhero Registration Act might prevent him from doing so, since him and cap are on opposite sides.

deathsquaddesign · 3 points · Posted at 06:05:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The accords? That's what I hear.

FuckAthiesmPolitics · 2 points · Posted at 17:45:09 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I heard Akoras...whatever that means

mermaidsdream · 1 points · Posted at 04:25:34 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Accords. It's THE Civil War reference.

raysweater · 1 points · Posted at 04:40:13 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Accords.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 13:04:17 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's accords, from the Civil War storyline. This teasing tweet from the Russo Brothers seems to hint to "The Sokovia Accords".

that_guy2010 · -16 points · Posted at 05:20:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It sounds like Akuran's. But I've been playing inFamous Second Son lately, so that may be why.

qwertySQuirty179 · 1 points · Posted at 23:13:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

lol really?

that_guy2010 · -5 points · Posted at 00:47:45 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Really. But apparently that's enough to earn downvotes.

qwertySQuirty179 · 4 points · Posted at 01:13:04 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

You're probably getting downvoted because inFamous Second Son has NOTHING to do with Ant-Man.

that_guy2010 · -7 points · Posted at 01:35:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I obviously know that. But I'm saying that I hear him saying Akurans and tell why. I'm pretty sure that's not what he's saying, but it's just what I hear.

qwertySQuirty179 · 2 points · Posted at 01:46:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

metalninjacake2 · 0 points · Posted at 22:28:29 on November 8, 2015 · (Permalink)

haha

TajesMahoney · -9 points · Posted at 07:44:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Pretty sure it's "the other cores", shorthand for the Main Avengers (Thor, Hulk, etc).

black-ra1n54 · 53 points · Posted at 05:53:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

DAMNIT!!! TWO CREDIT SCENES!!!

I knew I shouldn't have left...

Used_Pants · 12 points · Posted at 05:14:09 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Always stay until the end for Marvel movies (except avengers 2 gosh darn it!).

black-ra1n54 · 1 points · Posted at 15:13:03 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Was there not one at the end of Avengers: AoU? I couldn't stay because the rest of my family wanted to leave...

Thanatos_Rex · 3 points · Posted at 19:05:26 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thanos grabs the Infinity Gauntlet from a container, and says, "Fine, I'll do it myself.".

This implies he had a hand in Ultron's creation, when the AI suddenly came alive.

black-ra1n54 · 1 points · Posted at 19:15:08 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Noice..

mothabomba · 2 points · Posted at 01:31:47 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

You fucking idiot

go4Ds · 43 points · Posted at 20:49:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

And here's a mirror in case that one goes down.

gatsby365 · 9 points · Posted at 00:26:37 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

oh god dammit

bythewar · 5 points · Posted at 00:01:22 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The CGI is incredible in this.

jellythenutella · 8 points · Posted at 05:33:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thank you so much! I had to walk out of the theater after mid-credits scene because I couldn't hold my pee.

brintnall12 · 7 points · Posted at 08:29:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fucking thank you, was so bummed to come to reddit and see that I missed this scene. Am happy though that there was this sort of teaser! Thanks.

bigbluemofo · 3 points · Posted at 07:58:29 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thanks a lot. Saw it just a bit ago and was bummed to hear I missed it and figured I'd have to wait until the dvd is released. Being able to watch it on a big screen TV is a good trade off. Damn, I love modern TV.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:30:33 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I didn't stay bc I didnt think there would be something AFTER credit. Bc of ultron not having it. Man, thank you for posting this. I went last night and am so glad I could see this after a friend asked me if I did. So pumped.

FontFanatic · 2 points · Posted at 04:52:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Who knows if the what? will let him help?

thelastcurrybender · 3 points · Posted at 06:47:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The accords, some type of agreement thing that im assuming tonys dealing with to protect all the heroes hiding in the world

gatsby365 · 1 points · Posted at 05:01:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"The Accord"

I couldn't quite grab it live, thank you for this!

SIMULATIONTERMINATED · 1 points · Posted at 06:15:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What does Falcon say there? "Who knows if the ________ will let him help". I couldn't quite make it out

NaggingNavigator · 1 points · Posted at 02:48:49 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Accords. Probably referencing the superhero registration act.

samsaBEAR · 1 points · Posted at 23:36:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

So do we think it's fair to assume Ant-Man will take Cap's side in the Civil War?

GigaRebyc · 1 points · Posted at 22:18:43 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

So my totally incorrect interpretation of that scene was:

Bucky had his hand/arm stuck in some giant machine and they needed someone who could help him get unstuck. Ant-Man would have fit the bill just fine. I thought it was a comedic bit. Whoops.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:11:01 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

No, I like this interpretation. Less pain. :D

Sn1pe · 1 points · Posted at 02:09:43 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thank YOU!!! I was about to search for this after leaving the thread, but just like with the Terminator movie (which I did not expect to have an after credits scene and which I saw and loved maybe more than most), mistakenly went out after the mid credits scene, stupidly forgetting that Marvel films time and time again are known to have after credits scene.

dantemp · 1 points · Posted at 12:43:47 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Replying for when not on mobile data.

transfusion · 1 points · Posted at 16:01:41 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thanks man, completely forgot about the end credits and left after the mid. Been trying to find a video of what I missed

tigerdrummer · 1 points · Posted at 22:18:00 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thanks!!!!!!

Occams_Lazor_ · 1 points · Posted at 02:24:14 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

I left the theater before this, though there was no other credits scene.

From the bottom of my heart, thank you.

dkl415 · 1 points · Posted at 04:33:02 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thank you SO much for posting this. I saw the mid-credits scene, and asked an employee who was cleaning if there was a post-credits scene. He said no, so I left.

SteamBoatMickey · 0 points · Posted at 08:35:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I fucking love the chemistry between Anthony Mackie and Chris Evans. I'll take Mackie as our new Cap when that day comes. Seeing the MCU bloom is so awesome, what a time to be alive!

TheSpeakerIsTheEnemy · 247 points · Posted at 01:42:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone care to explain the second tag scene? I caught the civil war reference with cap distrusting tony, but what was the deal with Bucky?

chris2webby · 325 points · Posted at 02:43:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I noticed they mention that "if this happened last week, we would be fine". I'm assuming this scene takes place in the midst of the Civil War, which is why they can't call Stark.

SIMULATIONTERMINATED · 59 points · Posted at 06:17:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What does Falcon say there? "Who knows if the ________ will let him help". I couldn't quite make it out

[deleted] · 64 points · Posted at 07:45:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

the "accord".

As in "the agreement". They don't know if a prior agreement Tony made will let him help. It's possibly a reference to the Superhuman Registration Act that Civil War is centred around.

TacticusPrime · 10 points · Posted at 06:59:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Accords. One of the benefits of watching movies overseas is the subtitles.

mrshock13 · 4 points · Posted at 21:27:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Accords.

Something in relation to whatever the MCU is using for the Registration Act.

I_am_the_bunny · -10 points · Posted at 05:22:01 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Accords, with a capital A, we don't know yet, don't listen to the other guy.

[deleted] · 89 points · Posted at 05:03:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was freakin awesome. The fact that Tony can't, or maybe even won't, help Cap out makes me so hyped for Civil War.

Prax150 · 19 points · Posted at 14:53:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Someone in another comment mentioned that it's a scene they shot while filming Cap 3. So maybe they pulled it straight from the film.

theMTNdewd · 7 points · Posted at 19:56:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, all of the scenes in the movie filled the imax screen except that one

dating_derp · 3 points · Posted at 22:08:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

But what the hell! Are we glossing over the start of the Civil War? Or will the beginning of Cap 3 take place before Ant-man?

chris2webby · 6 points · Posted at 22:39:19 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

no, they have said that that end scene with Cap, Falcon and Bucky is an actual scene from the Civil War movie. It was put at the end of Ant-Man as a "tease" or "preview" for Civil War. We'll still get to see the start of the Civil War.

samsaBEAR · 2 points · Posted at 23:39:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wonder if this will be a scene IN Civil War then, and not just a teaser for it

Crash_Bandicool · 1 points · Posted at 06:38:24 on July 30, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was pulled straight from civil war!

DarthMaul27 · 1 points · Posted at 06:01:05 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I believe Kevin Feige confirmed this to be the case

JavaNewie · 0 points · Posted at 01:32:29 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

My understanding is that what we see in the end-credit scene, we will see again part way through Civil War. But it will be from a different perspective in some way. So it is not the exact same thing.

Maybe Scott is already in the room. When Falcon says he knows a guy and Steve wants to know more, Scott reveals himself to be present the entire time.

MonsieurAK · 359 points · Posted at 02:21:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They've found Bucky. It's implied in Winter Soldier that he murdered Howard and Maria Stark. Cap is probably aware of this.

black-ra1n54 · 64 points · Posted at 05:58:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Where is that implied? That is interesting...

Oogity_Boogity_Boo · 127 points · Posted at 06:37:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

When Arnim Zola is talking them through the history of Hydra being inside SHIELD, it cuts to newspapers of Howard and Maria dying in a car crash.

LouisIV · 82 points · Posted at 09:38:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

On top of that, Zola says something along the lines of "when someone came too close to uncovering the truth, accidents happened" implying that Hydra caused the car crash, and then earlier in the movie Natasha talks about the Winter Solider showing up at random points in the last 80 years (they froze/unfroze him when they needed him).

dialMARK4acti0n · 41 points · Posted at 20:17:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Now I want a Hank Pym movie with him kicking ass in the 80s with Wasp with a fight between him and the Winter Soldier... That'd be so dope

Pvt_Hudson_ · 11 points · Posted at 03:56:16 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

My thoughts exactly. Give me a prequel Ant Man movie.

rockytheboxer · 3 points · Posted at 22:47:18 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It would confuse the audience. You can't have two Ant Men.

[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 02:51:24 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Young Michel Douglas was on point though.

neosporify · 11 points · Posted at 19:04:22 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Pretty sure that's what happened to Peter Parker's parents. They worked for S.H.I.E.L.D and dug around a little too much. Peter was told they "died in a car crash".

scrantonic1ty · 23 points · Posted at 19:25:10 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's kinda what happened in ASM (Peter's dad discovers that Oscorp is selling their work to terrorists), but reading Kevin Feige's leaked emails about those movies indicates that he doesn't like the whole conspiracy background to Peter Parker and that the whole point is that he's just an ordinary kid thrust into extraordinary circumstances.

CinnaSol · 5 points · Posted at 23:59:42 on July 31, 2015 · (Permalink)

Plane crash actually.

But definitely Peter's parents were S.HI.E.D. agents who were framed as terrorists in the comics and killed off in a plane crash.

Fun Fact: Wolverine was actually the first person to congratulate Peter's parents on being pregnant because he was on a mission with them when they found out.

LouisIV · 1 points · Posted at 19:09:40 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Right, except they never had the power or influence to expose hydra I'm sure

colemetzler · 5 points · Posted at 21:42:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

When was this? We stayed for one scene after the credits that showed hope getting her own suit but didn't see another if that's the case.

Oogity_Boogity_Boo · 4 points · Posted at 21:53:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Although there were two credits scenes for Ant-Man.

colemetzler · 1 points · Posted at 23:24:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What was the second scene?

Try_Another_Please · 10 points · Posted at 23:29:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Cap and Falcon with Bucky. Falcon referenced Scott

colemetzler · 1 points · Posted at 23:30:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fuuuuuuuuck, I need to see this

BaconIsFrance · 2 points · Posted at 19:44:23 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Here you go

tralilulelo · 6 points · Posted at 03:33:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Holy shit, I didn't think of that!

LuluVonLuvenburg · 2 points · Posted at 10:27:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah because Armin Zola basically told him.

Ysmildr · 1 points · Posted at 13:39:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Cap was the one that was shown

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:28:43 on July 28, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wait, where is that implied? I thought the reason they couldnt tell Tony is its likely Bucky would then have to be registered, and there's no way the government would let a war criminal run free

ErikWithNoC · 136 points · Posted at 02:14:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

At the end of Winter Solider Bucky ran off. We see him visiting the old WWII memorial of Steve Rodgers and the Howling Commandos during a post credit scene, but that's basically all we knew about his whereabouts. Steve says something about looking for him at the end and I think Falcon mentions searching for him in Avengers 2 (not sure) as well.

This post-credit scene is showing that Falcon finally found him, thus he'll be playing a role in Civil War.

walker10837 · 13 points · Posted at 02:23:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Would you care to elaborate on the scene? My mind wasn't pocessing fast enough. It appeared that Bucky had is arm caught in something? In turn temporarily disabling him and also rendering him vulnerable to a certain ant-sized man to get inside the arm?

ErikWithNoC · 28 points · Posted at 02:36:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think Bucky was just chained to a sizeable object to prevent him from escaping. He was still pretty messed up in the head from experimentation (Captain America: Winter Solider) and probably needs a loooot of work to become who he was before.

The reference to Ant-Man, "I know a guy", looks to be setting up which side Ant-Man will be falling on in Civil War. In Civil War, there is going to be a conflict between Tony and Steve that divides a lot of the heroes.

hypocaffeinemia · 37 points · Posted at 02:47:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

After seeing the movie, it's only natural Scott would side with Cap given Hank's distrust of Stark and company. Some of that would have rubbed off on him I'd imagine.

scrantonic1ty · 10 points · Posted at 19:30:27 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Pym would be 100% against Scott being registered (or whatever the Government want from superheroes in the MCU) because it'd mean his tech and formulas being requisitioned by the Government.

There could be some conflict here though, if Stark's side use Cassie as leverage against Scott.

Coinshot_Kvothe · 4 points · Posted at 02:39:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought he was trying to cut his arm with a bandsaw and got stuck

toxicbrew · 3 points · Posted at 19:14:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought someone was supposed to lose an arm in every phase 2 movie

w41twh4t · 5 points · Posted at 16:34:58 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I believe Yellowjacket loses an arm just before he fully goes subatomic.

ledzepp44 · 1 points · Posted at 23:37:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wait what? Can you list them?

Cu4utl3 · 2 points · Posted at 23:53:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

http://www.polygon.com/2015/4/22/8471331/star-wars-marvel-easter-egg

Age of Ultron: Ultron cuts off Ulysses Klaw's arm after reminds him of Tony Stark. Also, the Hulkbuser loses an arm.

Goronron · 6 points · Posted at 00:36:23 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Could Antony's loss of a wing count?

Cu4utl3 · 6 points · Posted at 01:24:45 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It wasn't just a loss of a wing :(

AkaBBaka · 1 points · Posted at 05:49:09 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Comic rule #14: if they didn't show the body, then they're not dead.

PenXSword · 1 points · Posted at 00:02:02 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Does having it shrink before the rest of your body does count as "losing" it?

walker10837 · 1 points · Posted at 04:10:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

yeah I gathered the CW set up but just wasn't clear on what Bucky was stuck to or chained to.

cayal3 · 2 points · Posted at 00:09:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Falcon did mention looking for him in Avengers 2.

Hammerosu · 2 points · Posted at 12:47:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

My theater cut this out half way through so I'm not sure what happened. People were not happy.

TheSpeakerIsTheEnemy · 2 points · Posted at 13:13:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wow, that is a load of crap! Our theatre started playing Terminator at first. It was really confusing as to why there was an Ant-Man trailer playing right before Ant-Man. Got sorted quickly, though.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:54:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I would love to know what the ideas are of what they are trying to get inside.

Staxeon · 1 points · Posted at 04:40:53 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Several sites keep saying "Cap captures the Winter Soldier", but to me he looks to be there willingly, I mean his human arm is still free. From TWC we know he's a damn good fighter, if you had him "captured" would you let him keep and arm free? They're all in plain clothes so they're being incognito. I think Bucky's arm needs repair (it used to take an entire Hydra team to maintain him), Cap can't do it, Civil War events already started (hence the "last week" comment) so Stark is not an option. Falcon knows someone who's good enough with tech to make a shrink suit, and they established that Hank Pym hates the Starks, so he's the most fitting choice.

tigerslices · 1 points · Posted at 02:51:18 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

it wasn't that cap distrusted tony... he Suggested they call him, it was falcon who said "he won't believe us." am i wrong?

BigLebowskiBot · 2 points · Posted at 02:56:48 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

You're not wrong, Walter, you're just an asshole.

Brometheus-Pound · 2 points · Posted at 02:20:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think his mind is still messed up from Hydra. I assume Ant-Man will go subatomic to fix that somehow.

tharghtor · 84 points · Posted at 17:29:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure ants pushing a sugar cube around is the cutest damn thing in the world

chris2webby · 78 points · Posted at 17:48:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

lol especially when they were pushing the cubes towards Scott, then he goes "nevermind", and they turn around and push them back

tharghtor · 18 points · Posted at 18:06:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know! That poor ant was like "now i gotta push this damn thing all the way back make up your mind"

coffeeblack1203 · 5 points · Posted at 06:10:55 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

When the crazy ant walks up to Scott and starts acting like a puppy was probably one of the cutest things I've ever seen.

SutterCane · 3 points · Posted at 23:08:58 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Someone went "awwwww" in the theater when Scott declined the sugar.

NefariousNeezy · 1 points · Posted at 21:07:12 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

First raccoons, now ants.

BlackFireXSamin · 669 points · Posted at 01:49:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just back it up... No worries, just back it up, baaaack it up...

Loved Michael Peña. I cackled with "My name Jeff" level intensity for most of his screen presence.

chris2webby · 322 points · Posted at 02:41:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

my fave part with him was during his first story, when the big tattooed guy said "the safe is just sittin' there, chillin'!"

EpicureanHorn · 258 points · Posted at 14:39:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I just about died at Falcon talking in his voice...

2ero · 8 points · Posted at 06:52:01 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

He needs to narrate all the stories now...

EpicureanHorn · 7 points · Posted at 17:50:23 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wish that could be a special feature on the Antman bluray release

[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 06:05:15 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

About that end scene, what was he on about? Something about someone telling falcon to tell the reporter to ask someone a question, and falcon says yes? What was the question?

epsiblivion · 14 points · Posted at 06:34:23 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

do you know someone who can shrink?

Flexappeal · 3 points · Posted at 02:16:27 on August 5, 2015 · (Permalink)

Falcon asks the reporter if she knows someone who can shrink. She asks the other guy. That guy asks Pena. Pena says yes, which inevitably gets back to Falcon. it becomes confusing if you try to work it out in your head.

[deleted] · 91 points · Posted at 17:20:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I liked the classy hot reporter mouthing his lines with that intense Latino-gangster-guy expression the most

Kiram · 50 points · Posted at 08:17:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Both of his story sequences were hilarious.

asphaltstretcher · 9 points · Posted at 02:28:42 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Reminded me of Drunk History. Very funny show, parts have actors dressed in period costume, lip syncing to a drunk person's recap of some piece of history. Very funny. I enjoyed myself at Ant-Man, pretty much what I expected. Was worried about the ants, but it wasn't over done.

ZeroCitizen · 2 points · Posted at 18:37:03 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Dude looked like Action Bronson straight up

mancubuss · 23 points · Posted at 07:10:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That scene went on for the perfect amount of time

svrtngr · 11 points · Posted at 23:42:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just back it up. No worries.

DiabeticGorilla · 80 points · Posted at 03:35:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really enjoyed how Yellow Jacket's lasers made the same sound as Star Wars blasters. I'm glad that Disney is really putting their ownership of both Marvel and Star Wars to good use!

rockchalk88 · 11 points · Posted at 06:23:00 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

Saw in the credits they used LucasFilm for post production sound effects.

50_shades_of_clay · 9 points · Posted at 06:23:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

These blasters have the noise

Star trek has the noise

I believe ant man has that noise too.

Honestly, I heard it also.

entertainman · 1 points · Posted at 06:31:44 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Iron Man?

RickeyB · 587 points · Posted at 02:49:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Honestly, if baskin Robbins doesn't get an Ant-Man flavor they are seriously missing out

Fishmongers · 359 points · Posted at 04:03:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

With actual ants mixed in

SmokeyPeanutRic · 11 points · Posted at 10:36:56 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hi I'm Ants in Your Ice Cream Johnson!

noalarmplanet · 5 points · Posted at 00:37:28 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

I can't even see the savings!

boomer98 · 2 points · Posted at 23:54:11 on August 9, 2015 · (Permalink)

Actually I can't see anything because I have all these ants in my eyes.

jordanrhys · 2 points · Posted at 06:28:39 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

chocolate ants

Douche_Kayak · 2 points · Posted at 19:32:06 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Ant Man on a Log"

coolgaara · 1 points · Posted at 19:13:29 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'll take the bullet ants flavor please.

DokomoS · 3 points · Posted at 19:03:27 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

They didn't so bullet ants justice really. The sting hurts for 24 hours. Everyone in the testing room should have been left on the floor writhing in pain.

TiberiCorneli · 1 points · Posted at 04:08:20 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

They are supposed to be good for you...

chris2webby · 188 points · Posted at 02:50:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Baskin Robbins don't play

dra39437 · 16 points · Posted at 16:54:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They make great burgers

karpenterskids · 7 points · Posted at 21:21:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They might not know how to perfect an Ant Man flavor yet...but Baskin Robbins always finds out.

homeboi808 · 3 points · Posted at 02:51:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What would it be, some black flavor and a red flavor mixed?

Kiram · 5 points · Posted at 17:34:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Chocolate-Covered Cherry/Strawberry/something flavored? I'd probably buy that. Or it could be like a fudge/red velvet type thing. I'd definitely buy that.

homeboi808 · 6 points · Posted at 18:06:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'd be all over that fudge/red velvet flavor.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 05:10:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not sure how great it would sell...

TheWhinoceros · 2 points · Posted at 02:38:59 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Shit god damnit. I do have a hankering for some B&R right now

Morningsun92 · 2 points · Posted at 02:16:05 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

mm crunchy, tastes like antony

toxicbrew · 1 points · Posted at 19:23:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They did have a captain America flavor

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:09:16 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

It could be called Crazy Ants.

simba-claus · 66 points · Posted at 02:47:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Holy hell, the fight with Falcon was badass.

GlobalVagabond · 9 points · Posted at 02:03:20 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)*

It was but he needs to find a way to not get his wings ripped off/destroyed for once.

[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 06:12:27 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think they're saving that for a big moment.

Thanatos_Rex · 3 points · Posted at 19:12:13 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

He'll just pull out a second pair of wings.

GlobalVagabond · 1 points · Posted at 06:33:43 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Is there something from the comics that solves this problem?

LiteraryBoner · 200 points · Posted at 02:13:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why can't Michael Pena be in every movie. Great line delivery.

arghnard · 8 points · Posted at 18:18:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

He was great in End Of Watch.

ArcherInPosition · 1 points · Posted at 04:39:30 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

And Sniper and 30 minutes or less

arghnard · 1 points · Posted at 07:40:30 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah he showed his true comedic colors in 30 Minutes..

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 04:34:15 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

He is going to be Martinez in the film adaptation of "The Martian".

YellowTorpedo · 2 points · Posted at 05:12:36 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

The book is so good. I hope the film lives up to it.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 05:13:50 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

The book is amazing. It looks like they got Watney down with Damon.

YellowTorpedo · 1 points · Posted at 05:29:01 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Agreed, very happy with that casting choice. Especially after his appearance in Interstellar.

[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 05:29:22 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Never trust space Damon.

dtsyk · 1 points · Posted at 09:40:12 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

I feel like he's in every movie. Not that it's an issue.

TheSneakySeal · 449 points · Posted at 02:09:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

First 30 minutes were alright but the movie really picks up when he fights Falcon.

adunn13 · 287 points · Posted at 05:19:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

More like dat bathtub club scene.

D-Speak · 44 points · Posted at 06:01:58 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Agreed. It takes off once the Ant-Man suit is activated. The concept really carries.

blankedboy · 23 points · Posted at 04:26:16 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Got to agree. For the first 15 minutes I really wasn't t feeling it. Started thinking maybe Marvel had really blown it getting rid of Edgar Wright. Then Scott gets the suit and the movie just absolutely clicks from that point on.

[deleted] · -7 points · Posted at 00:49:41 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

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Used_Pants · 1 points · Posted at 05:12:39 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

lol wut?

kingofping4 · 24 points · Posted at 21:29:25 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Don't worry, he can't see me."

"I can see you."

"He can see me."

Lost it.

tigerdrummer · 17 points · Posted at 22:22:49 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was thinking "why does upstate New York ring a bell?" Then the Avengers logo... AWESOME!

RubberDong · 3 points · Posted at 22:43:27 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

"He cant see me"

"I can see you".

prophetofgreed · 5 points · Posted at 05:41:54 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm a huge Marvel fan and I agree. It just was a little too slow there and not very compelling. The moment the first heist happened was when I started to fall in love with the movie.

TheSneakySeal · -7 points · Posted at 06:19:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I totally agree. Was almost falling asleep.

Gverreiro · -41 points · Posted at 02:19:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes but the movie suffer's from bad pacing overall.

BritishHobo · -43 points · Posted at 16:27:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can the people downvoting this dude fuck off, please

Kosko · 29 points · Posted at 16:30:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think it's people giving him the same effort as he put into his statement. If he provides some form of reasoning for it, I'm sure people would be friendlier.

BritishHobo · -33 points · Posted at 16:49:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fuck that - I knew someone would say that, even though this thread is full of people being equally short and vague but with positivity. He replied to guy who got thirty upvotes for literally saying 'it was ok then it got better'. Let's not pretend the downvotes are for lack of detail.

Darbabolical · 15 points · Posted at 02:39:32 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

When somebody just flippantly counters another person's opinion with just a personal criticism with no context or facts to back it up, that's gonna draw some downvotes.

I imagine the majority of the downvotes are for the fact he/she is coming across like they are correcting the poster, rather than sharing a counter-point.

BritishHobo · -4 points · Posted at 13:20:56 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

No, they aren't. This gets pulled out every time, and it isn't the case. Empty positive comments will get upvotes for doing exactly the same thing.

Darbabolical · 7 points · Posted at 13:30:47 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

If you liked or didn't like a movie, you don't really need to defend your stance. But if you are implying somebody is wrong for their opinion, you better bring an actual argument to the table (and not a drive-by shitting).

BritishHobo · -7 points · Posted at 13:44:27 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

That happens all the time in this subreddit and gets upvoted because other people agree with it. You're right that that's how it should be, but that is not why people are voting the way that they are.

RadiantViper · 829 points · Posted at 01:39:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I had a blast. I won't fault anyone for disliking, the movie isn't perfect but I had a smile on my face the whole time.

Effects were great, loved all the different types of environments that were used while in shrink mode. Suit design and powers were cool, definitely a nice addition to the franchise. Paul Rudd was just perfect - if nothing else, this movie makes him a part of the MCU so it's worth it for that.

But honestly? I enjoyed this more than Age of Ultron. That movie was too goofy when it should have been serious. This movie was appropriately goofy, there was a threat but it wasn't global extinction level so the laughs weren't out of place.

Pros:

Pym and Hope were both played well, and set up for Wasp! Can't wait to see her in action.
Michael Pena's character was hilarious, I loved how everyone is his flashbacks talked like him.
Ants were very cute and I liked the variation in abilities. RIP Ant-tony.
Falcon cameo was great, totally wasn't expecting that. Fun fight scene as well.
I see a lot of people mentioning Star Wars sound effects used for Yellowjacket's lasers. I also noticed that Pena's character whistles "It's a Small World After All" when he's first infiltrating Pym Tech.

Cons:

Another meh villain. Par for the course for Marvel. I mean, he had a pretty solid reasoning for his actions but they didn't really flesh them out enough (some scenes of being snubbed by Pym might have helped). At least his suit was badass.
Some stilted dialogue/pacing, mostly during the beginning. Movie seemed a little too "quick" on the whole.
I wish the Peggy and Howard cameo was longer! The aging/de-aging effects in that scene were great though.

I_am_BEOWULF · 220 points · Posted at 02:25:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

But honestly? I enjoyed this more than Age of Ultron. That movie was too goofy when it should have been serious. This movie was appropriately goofy, there was a threat but it wasn't global extinction level so the laughs weren't out of place.

I agree. I feel like a lot of the side-jokes that were made in AoU somehow took away from the gravity of the situation and diffused a lot of the needed tension for the audience to be afraid of Ultron.

The jokes felt more at home in Ant-Man though. The premise was grave enough but the heist film set-up along with the odd crew made the humor feel more of an organic part of the film.

And Michael Douglas. That scene where he finally revealed what really happened to Hope's mom during the ballistic missile mission and she never hesitated going sub-atomic to save the day... CHILLS.

LuluVonLuvenburg · 38 points · Posted at 10:15:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

AOU suffered from the side effects of whedonism. He had to write little jokes to these characters to lighten a mood when the mood didn't need to be lightened. They faced a global extinction event with no positive outcome and yet they had a joke about Cap saying bitch and what part of Hawkeyes house he was gonna demolish next. All the character development that was built up in the previous movies were lost when whedon was back in control. I loved what Markus and McFeely did with TWS and am excited to see their take on the other avengers in civil war and infinity war. Kinda glad Whedon isn't directly involved with the MCU anymore. Those movies are trying to evolve the genre past the tropes and cliches (ie, TWS) and Whedon seemed to embrace those tropes and it felt out of place.

BritishHobo · 8 points · Posted at 16:17:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wait, how do jokes in the downtime of the movie affect dramatic tension?

darwinzinn · -14 points · Posted at 20:50:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If you have to ask.......

BritishHobo · 24 points · Posted at 20:52:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's not really an answer, it's just a smug way of making out like the original point is still infallible.

Jokes made when the Avengers are sitting around post-battle, or when they're peacefully at Hawkeye's house recuperating, have no bearing on the dramatic tension.

bilyl · 13 points · Posted at 03:54:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

No, the problem with AoU was that there was no tension and long scenes that did literally nothing to advance the plot. Joss Whedon was trying to cram too many things in there as if it was a TV show with multiple episodes. None of the main characters in the franchise were going to die and Ultron was always going to be defeated. Normally movies make up for that by having really compelling characters but Joss Whedon turned it into a fast talking and quick takes movie.

Alinosburns · 15 points · Posted at 09:16:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I also think that is the fault of choosing Ultron as well though.

I mean his main power in that movie is basically, Internet Mutherfucker you can't kill me. Which they then go with look at this plot convenience we just cooked up to fuck it off.

I'd even argue that Scarlett Witch did more damage early stage villain wise than Ultron did. Sure at the end he fucked up a small nation. But he never really felt like a significant threat, because his plan was all or nothing. It wasn't like he started out small and went big.

Which I think is part of the problem as well with the movies being localized to earth. You don't exactly want to say, well Ultron blew up half of San Diego look how bad he is. Because that means the hero's failed. So we end up with collateral damage like destroying a building seconds after Stark buys it.

I think it's where something like Guardians of the Galaxy or Thor should have a better time with. Because they can have the villian do fucked up shit to planets and races we don't give a shit about.

D-Speak · 3 points · Posted at 14:23:43 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can't destroy the Earth until Infinity War.

Murasasme · 9 points · Posted at 04:05:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I completely agree. Remember in the first avengers movie how Black Widow is totally scared just by Banner (not Hulk) being pissed, in that scene in India. And then compare to Tony Stark joking around as a completely berserk Hulk is trying to kill him, it just made no sense to me.

Alinosburns · 17 points · Posted at 09:19:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The argument could be made that at that point in time Banner was an unknown variable, It wasn't established how well his control over the hulk was. Whether hulk was an arsehole because of banner etc.

The Tony we see joking around with a Beserk hulk is one who knows the extent of his abilities. Who has talked with the human side, who has contingencies to fight him. And is a wise arse regardless of the threat most of the time.

Try_Another_Please · 13 points · Posted at 23:33:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That could be chalked up to the fact that they have been working with Hulk much longer now and Widow and Stark are very different. Stark cracks jokes when he's afraid. Remember when he freaked out and apologized after he punched Hulk? That was fear

Jusdoc · 1 points · Posted at 03:00:51 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

while I found the scene of revealing what happened to the original Wasp to be chilling as well, I thought it happened too soon. he could have promised to tell her after the heist and then reveal the new suit during the scene to add to the punch.

but that was one of the only criticisms I had for the movie - the pacing wasn't as perfect as some of Marvel's other movies. which, given that movies like GoG had perfect pacing, still means this was a fan-fucking-tastic movie.

Leockard · 345 points · Posted at 02:06:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Scott's main criminal friend (forget his name) was hilarious, I loved how everyone is his flashbacks talked like him.

I totally saw Wright's writing style in this guy's character.

tenillusions · 73 points · Posted at 11:26:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Apparently Peyton Reed added the tip montages

silvershadow881 · 67 points · Posted at 02:11:58 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Respect for that man.

It takes balls to take on a project that will only surround you with controversy. Plus, lets be honest, most of the good of the movie will be credited to Wright, and the bad to Reed. It's just natural.

We may never know exactly how much Ant-man was Wright's, Reed's or even McKay's, but Peyton Reed deservers recognition for accepting the challenge/burden.

EDIT: Apparently we owe Reed some of the best parts

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-07-17/ant-man-director-explains-the-differences-from-edgar-wright-version

[deleted] · 22 points · Posted at 19:07:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I want to know who wrote the suit-case fight, where The Cure was accidentally turned on and there was a fight set to the music. Seemed like something similar in Shaun of the Dead when Queen played during the bar fight.

CouchRadish · 10 points · Posted at 20:27:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved the cut to outside the briefcase where its just spinning with tiny lasers shooting out of it.

KingOfAwesometonia · 6 points · Posted at 06:32:17 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Peyton Reed is a big Cure fan apparently.

http://filmschoolrejects.com/features/thomas-tank-engine-ant-man.php

There's also a video interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=185&v=-eBcYVFQdc4 Three minutes in. Reed might not be the greatest director but dude sure shows real passion for the stuff he loves.

But who knows everyone will probably credit Wright for anything they like and Reed for anything they don't.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 06:56:06 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Peyton Reed is fucking awesome.

tenillusions · 10 points · Posted at 22:56:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That seemed like an Edgar wright piece definitely

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 00:34:09 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Source?

Alchemist_92 · 137 points · Posted at 02:54:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yup. I was nervous when Wright left the project, but I'm glad they stuck with a lot of his flavor. This had a feel that I can only compare to the first Iron Man, as far as the MCU goes.

The whole thing felt like Shaun of the Dead and Iron Man made sweet, sweet love, and I was lucky enough to get to see it.

Albireookami · 5 points · Posted at 23:15:52 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well he was stil credited a ton for the movie so seems they kept a good bit of his material

AskRexBosworth · 5 points · Posted at 13:06:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

High praise

killzonev2 · 11 points · Posted at 06:50:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Dude, Michael Peña! He stole all of his scenes

[deleted] · 12 points · Posted at 15:20:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thats what I thought too, but I guess those parts were added by after he left the project.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-07-17/ant-man-director-explains-the-differences-from-edgar-wright-version

sophoclesantigone · 6 points · Posted at 15:15:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The tips were Peyton Reed/McKay&Rudd

Family_Booty_Honor · 1 points · Posted at 20:36:14 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

There were scenes where I could tell we would have seen Wrights famous fast-cutting had he directed the movie. Still a great movie regardless

Flexappeal · 1 points · Posted at 02:14:16 on August 5, 2015 · (Permalink)

everything about those scenes was done Wright.

[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 04:14:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

yup, that's what I love with Wright's movies. God, why didn't he direct this :(

botched_rest_hold · 247 points · Posted at 02:54:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Take Marvel and Ant-Man out of it.

It's a legitimately good heist movie.

Another meh villain. Par for the course for Marvel.

The issue they have is how little screen time they get to develop the bad guy. Kingpin, in Daredevil, had hours of development and became an actual character, and not just "Bad Guyerson."

Phase 3 is going to have a huge change in bad guy, so hopefully they'll be able to really get some development.

silverrabbit · 33 points · Posted at 05:00:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Isn't that the fault of the writers though? I mean, you can clearly develop a villain in one movie if you want to, Marvel has just not gone that route.

mfranko88 · 30 points · Posted at 06:32:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

When writing and developing the story, I think all of the writers and producers prioritize fleshing out the protagonists- the audience must become invested in the hero's reason to fight. Most of the movie is spent doing this. Following this priority, the writers' secondary goal are one of two things: either be flesh out the villains, or immerse the movie into the MCU.

For example, the 5-10 minute fight scene with Falcon could have been cut, and in its place we could have a scene or two spent with the bad guy and exploring his character.

I don't think they made the wrong choice, as the immersion into the MCU are some of the biggest selling points for these movies.

IMO of course.

Alinosburns · 16 points · Posted at 09:09:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The problem is that while fleshing out the characters can be a valid argument. It doesn't justify the meh villians we have seen in some of the sequel movies.

Like Falcon's fight is basically there as a proving ground of sorts for Ant-Man. Like a well he took on someone who was given Avenger status.

It also gave them the ability to flesh out falcon as well in comparison to what he's been given in other movies.

mfranko88 · 5 points · Posted at 09:29:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Like Falcon's fight is basically there as a proving ground of sorts for Ant-Man. Like a well he took on someone who was given Avenger status.

Fair point, but I think that could have been done in a more creative way if the producers really wanted to.

It also gave them the ability to flesh out falcon as well in comparison to what he's been given in other movies.

That's kind of my point though isn't it? Like, instead of building on this movie's primary villain, they decided to build an MCU secondary hero. They built the universe (and built into the universe) instead of building the world. They lost the trees for the forest. They are thinking too big picture.

Which, again, isn't necessarily a mark against the movie. However, that decision will impose certain limitations and implications on the type of movie Ant-Man can be.

Alinosburns · 8 points · Posted at 10:04:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well I think though you have to think in the context of Cross as a villain as well. Odd's are he isn't coming bank, the way he died didn't exactly look pretty.

Now if we were talking an actual mainstay villian who could arguably resurface like Red Skull, Or a Bucky esque character you might have more of an argument.

I also think the plot kind of confused things a bit. They made allusion's to the shrinking of the brain potentially sending someone crazy. And that they needed to wear a helmet. But Cross is already who he is long before his brain has been shrunk.

If they wanted to develop that angle, and instead make the play that Cross was a bit more tragic. I think what they could have done is.

Have a flashback to before Pym has been ousted where Cross is working on minaturization techniques. But while he has the basic's groundwork laid, he is only really able to make a human shrink down to the size of a 10 year old. And when he tries to shrink them more you run into the issue of liquification or deformities.

Then the argument could be made that while his passion was to follow the rumors of his mentors work. His early experiments which he may have performed on himself(Since he may have been doing this work in secret at that point) were the start of the downfall of his brain. The changes to his chemicals were what threw his mistrust of Pym and anger towards him into overdrive. Combined with now knowing it's possible to shrink on some level, He essentially has seen the forbidden fruit and is driven further made trying to achieve that goal.

It would tie into the idea that being shrunk down was bad for your brain.

Heck the parallel could even be drawn to Pym within the movie or the future. Suggesting that when Pym was developing his particle he ran into much the same hurdles. But without any outside channel to vent his anger at or purely out of his extra capabilities, he perfected his formula faster and/or noticed the brain issues after the first attempt.

It would also explain Pym's propensity for anger, while also tying in with the idea that he saw too much of himself in Cross. That after he made that first shrink Pym saw the same sort of degredation that he originally did after his own exposure to the Pym particle. And that either out of being too late to help him or too worried about the particle getting out into the wild he instead chose to push cross away hoping that maybe that anger was a natural manifestation not one that was the result of Cross's work on a Pym Particle.

D-Speak · 6 points · Posted at 05:46:35 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The problem with the bad guys is that, for most of them, we're introduced in the final act of their personal story. The villain drives the plot more often than not, which means that he has to be actively pursuing something in opposition to the protagonist right from the get-go, otherwise the plot doesn't go anywhere. Getting right to this point skips the events leading to the villain's villainy. We can only hear about Cross's Xehanort-Ansem the Wise apprenticeship to Pym and the resulting fall out because to dwell on it too much would hurt the pace of the film and, as you said, pull away from the hero, who is the one walking into the sequel at the end of the day.

I think this is kind of why Loki is a bit more popular and prevalent; the first Thor film, while driven by him, spent a good deal focusing on his personal anguish, so he feels like a fuller character.

Personally, I was a big fan of Cross, particularly his scene with Hank at Hank's house. He was legitimately threatening, and I could see the journey of his character through the acting. I'm a big fan of Corey Stoll, though, so I may be biased. Nonetheless, I wouldn't call Cross underutilization of a very talented actor like I would with Ronan or Malekith.

Stangstag · 1 points · Posted at 00:10:55 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Falcon fight was the best scene in the whole movie IMO

botched_rest_hold · -4 points · Posted at 14:57:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

No, it's the fault of the movie having to be under 3 hours.

silverrabbit · 9 points · Posted at 15:30:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Because no film has ever had a compelling villain and managed to stay under 3 hours?

botched_rest_hold · -13 points · Posted at 15:32:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ah, you're trolling.

silverrabbit · 9 points · Posted at 15:36:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

How am I trolling? The biggest thing Marvel gets attacked for is not having compelling villains in their film. They are clearly going in another direction, you can't blame it on a time constraint when other films have made villains and kept their films under 3 hours.

botched_rest_hold · -14 points · Posted at 15:43:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

How am I trolling?

By doing this.

HTH; HAND

NormalNormalNormal · 4 points · Posted at 06:51:39 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The first 20 minutes or so felt like a great comedy. I forgot I was watching a super hero movie.

_tylerthedestroyer_ · 4 points · Posted at 20:14:08 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Phase 3 should fix their villain problem since Kevin Feige said they're done doing origin stories so they'll have more time to flesh out the villains

FalconLorenzo · 3 points · Posted at 23:41:46 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, I think that's a conscious decision. Heroes in MCU are not defined by their villains and so the production managers don't allow for much screen time. In, for example, The Dark Knight trilogy, the villains were fundamentally intertwined with who Batman is as a person and as a hero. As such, they needed to have more screen time and a bigger role because through their role the character that is Batman is developed more and more.

In marvel movies it's all about the heroes. The villains don't matter because they will always lose. Literally they made up a faceless and practically nameless race of villains for the first Avengers movie.

Arguably, Avengers 2 switched it up but I don't think that, from a story telling perspective, Ultron was anywhere close to being as successful as any of the villains in The Dark Knight trilogy of films.

TL;DR - in the MCU the villains will never win so why bother developing them? In DC's nolanverse, even though the villains will never win their story and personality help to define the batman and they take on an expanded role to shed light onto who the hero is.

BritishHobo · 5 points · Posted at 16:17:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm not sure it is a good heist movie, precisely because it has to give so much time over to filling the stock 'supervillain' role. Barely any time is given to the heist itself, we're only really shown the water pressure going down and the security thing being switched off above the Yellowjacket suit.

Not even really a heist, in the end. Just Paul Rudd breaking in to a building, seguing into a superhero movie climax elsewhere.

myslead · 1 points · Posted at 14:20:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

what's going to change in phase 3?

svrtngr · 5 points · Posted at 23:51:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They're building up Thanos, Crossbones is returning, and we have Baron Zemo who is one of the big Marvel villains.

myslead · 1 points · Posted at 00:21:24 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

ahhh okok

twitchedawake · 1 points · Posted at 00:12:21 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh man, A Thunderbolts movie would be pretty awesome.

But with Suicide Squad coming out next year, it would be dead in the water.

_tylerthedestroyer_ · 1 points · Posted at 20:16:41 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Also a huge push from the "Big 3," Iron Man, Cap and Thor. The respective twos trilogies will be over and they're introducing TONS of new heroes

DoctorandDaleks · 1 points · Posted at 10:20:11 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

How are they going to change the bad guys in phase 3? I'm curious, since I'd like to see some more fleshed out villains from the MCU.

botched_rest_hold · 1 points · Posted at 14:46:53 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thanos.

pjtheman · 1 points · Posted at 12:12:35 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think DC has pretty well developed bad guys.

svrtngr · -1 points · Posted at 23:49:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The only issue with this villain is he's basically the villain of Iron Man.

botched_rest_hold · 4 points · Posted at 01:23:06 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not really.

If you pay attention, the guy in Ant-Man actually has a reason to dislike his former mentor.

He got near the particle research and was shut out, instead of being redirected towards something else. And in his research to recreate what Pym had done he, without knowing it, causes severe damage to his own brain.

If Pym had just helped him, or brought him in on the secret, he never would have been a bad guy.

Radulno · 0 points · Posted at 09:08:35 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

What do you mean by huge change in Phase 3 bad guys ? Except Thanos set up on multiple films (though he's not really developped at that point) and eventually Stark (if we consider him a villain for Civil War). Why would the others be better ? I hope so but I don't see why.

dating_derp · 0 points · Posted at 20:40:37 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

But Daredevil wasn't the only character who got a good villain. Other movies had better villains: Loki, The Red Skull, Iron Monger, the leader of the 9 rings, Bucky.

botched_rest_hold · 0 points · Posted at 20:42:38 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Loki has had multiple movies for development. He was only good in Thor because him being a bad guy was a twist.

Red Skull was a fucking terrible villain.

Iron Monger was a terrible villain.

The 9 Rings was dumb.

Bucky wasn't a villain, he was a weapon.

2ero · -1 points · Posted at 06:50:52 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Kingpin, in Daredevil, had hours of development and became an actual character, and not just "Bad Guyerson."

But that was on T.V.

botched_rest_hold · 2 points · Posted at 13:41:19 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ding ding ding!

You got my point!

smilbandit · 23 points · Posted at 02:02:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Marvel villains are pretty bad but in a movie with an origin story they're just lame.

slicky803 · 6 points · Posted at 08:22:50 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Another meh villain.

That was my only big gripe too. He ended up very Iron Monger/Obadiah Stane-ish.

Works at the same company with the protagonist (or in this case, the protagonist's mentor)
Snubbed somehow by the good guys
Inherently already evil for one reason or another
Takes/replicates already-existing technology that was invented and used by one of the good guys
Intends to militarize and monetize said technology
Uses said technology in an expert fashion on the first try, despite it taking a relatively long period of time for the main protagonist to use the same technology effectively
Threatens main protagonist's loved one
Neutralized by forcing the protagonist to make a self-sacrificial move

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 06:00:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Another meh villain.

I disagree. It was nice to see a villain just go full balls-to-the-wall insane and evil. Every other one has done it for the money or something. But this dude was just fucking nuts.

"Are you a monster?"

"Do I look like a monster?"

BritishHobo · 1 points · Posted at 16:18:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He was doing it for the money.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 16:22:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

No he wasn't. He was clearly doing it for love and acceptance of his mentor.

He spoke highly of Pym, even though he was distant. He still cared about his opinion, which is why he asked what Pym saw in him. He was on the verge of tears when speaking with Hope, almost crying about why Hank still didn't respect him and his work.

Money pushed him a bit, sure. But that was clearly not the primary motivation. It was for his work and for the mentor he saw as a father.

BritishHobo · 1 points · Posted at 16:51:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He was selling a hugely dangerous piece of technology to Nazis, and only keeping the serum so he could make more money by forcing them to rely on him for it. He only used the suit itself to try and kill a man's daughter for threatening that financial opportunity. The 'let down by mentor' thing can only stretch so far.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 17:02:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I could be really petty and explain Hydra isn't Nazis. But then I realized how stupid I'd sound.

He was keeping the serum to make money, sure. He wanted to stay in power after all, money was a motive. But he definitely didn't try to kill little Cassie because it threatened his financial opportunity. That was straight up revenge and being an evil dick. Remember: his brain was already messed up due to his unstable formula. Combine that with the fact that he died with a bug zapper and it brought back. I'm assuming he was just crazy at that point.

So three motivations. Money, crazy, and acceptance of his mentor. Not exactly groundbreaking character traits but hey, better than being just one (like most of Iron Man's villains). I thought it worked fine, certainly better than Guy Pierce's character or the way Maliketh was handled.

dukefan2227 · 3 points · Posted at 07:27:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Falcon cameo was definitely great and unexpected. It also made me glad I saw the movie tonight, because I saw a commercial after I got home that had him in it. Really glad it wasn't spoiled for me.

Mictlantecuhtli · 3 points · Posted at 04:55:24 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I have to agree with you on enjoying it more than Age of Ultron. I loved the dynamic between Rudd and Douglas.

pezzshnitsol · 3 points · Posted at 02:13:26 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh these guys, yeah they're with Hydra. They're cool though.

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 04:33:09 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

He may have been another meh villain compared to the likes of Loki, but goddamn did that bathroom scene send chills down my spine.

mr_popcorn · 3 points · Posted at 12:15:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Pym and Hope were both played well, and set up for Wasp! Can't wait to see her in action.

About damn time!

TyPiper93 · 3 points · Posted at 20:04:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm so glad you mentioned the pacing. Seemed too rushed to me. Especially in areas that, in my opinion, would've made a bigger impact if they were explained better.

Morningsun92 · 2 points · Posted at 08:22:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

beginning felt a little slow and wonky

Camakazi · 2 points · Posted at 11:01:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

u/NorthConor AH HA! I knew there was a reason why I was reminded of starwars.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 12:04:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Haha yeah they sounded hell familiar

famoustran · 2 points · Posted at 03:02:27 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Eh I thought Corey Stoll did a sick job as Yellow Jacket. He really nailed the sinister voice down.

2ero · 2 points · Posted at 06:50:17 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was not expecting the Wasp to be set up for future films. What I am wondering was what was that about the suit taking a toll on Hank's body...

twitchedawake · 1 points · Posted at 00:24:36 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Makes sense that he learned about Pym Particles messing with your head before he developed a helmet to prevent Pym Particles messing with your head.

Could be used to touch on Pym hitting Janet.

Also in the comic, Pym inhaled the gas so often that he was able to change sizes without it.

2ero · 1 points · Posted at 00:33:27 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Probably did it to avoid the subject of alcoholism... like they did with Iron Man.

KingofCraigland · 2 points · Posted at 18:26:44 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

Scott: "He can't see me." Falcon responds, "I can see you."

Loved it.

grangach · 2 points · Posted at 08:00:53 on August 2, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wish marvel would stop killing their villians. One of the reasons loki is so well received is because he's been in multiple movies so his character has had time to develop. They keep killing villians when they should be using them for things like team ups.

julia-sets · 3 points · Posted at 02:12:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think my feelings are pretty in line with yours. It was a fun movie, but it probably could've used another layer of polish on the script and a director better at getting a good performance out of people saying ridiculous comic book-y lines. Paul Rudd carried the movie.

I'd also add to your points against it that I'm really conflicted about Hope. I'm glad she finally got a suit, but the conflict between her and Hank just never seemed real. Couldn't tell if it was the script or the actors, but you never really got a feeling that the main trio actually cared about each other. Probably just rushed.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 02:09:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Don't know why they didn't go for more realistic looking ants. They look very CG

lolroflqwerty · 6 points · Posted at 03:44:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought the CG ants fit the aesthetic of the movie pretty well

twitchedawake · 1 points · Posted at 00:20:00 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Realistic ones couldnt be personified into puppies.

I like the way the did it. Antony was a bro.

janiqua · 3 points · Posted at 02:26:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Agreed. Much much better than Age of Ultron, I'm so glad it was because I was beginning to tire of Marvel movies but this one was great, so enjoyable. I'm not sure about Scott's main criminal friend. The voiceover bits were hilarious but sometimes he overdid it during his scenes with the others and I can see a lot of people finding him annoying. He was funny but maybe he needed toning down

Alinosburns · 1 points · Posted at 09:07:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Another meh villain. Par for the course for Marvel. I mean, he had a pretty solid reasoning for his actions but they didn't really flesh them out enough (some scenes of being snubbed by Pym might have helped). At least his suit was badass.

It was also weird, because they kept claiming.

"Oh he doesn't know that shrinking makes you go crazy if you don't have a helmet on"

But up to that point he hadn't shrunk himself, and there were plenty of other characters exposed in the same way he was without going crazy.

And then when he did shrink he had a helmet on anyway.(Maybe it wasn't insulated properly, But he'd already been pretty insane anyway)

mr_popcorn · 2 points · Posted at 12:19:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Maybe he was injecting the Yellowjacket serum on himself out of frustration? I dunno… but that was definitely weird though.

FurLinedKettle · 1 points · Posted at 02:36:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The sound design was done by Skywalker Sound (Marvel and Star Wars both owned by Disney now) which explains the laser effects

kenlubin · 1 points · Posted at 08:04:35 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I actually felt like Yellowjacket was one of the best villains we've had recently in a Marvel movie. He may not have had much 3-dimensional character development, but he had a good amount of screen time and oozed evil throughout.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 02:14:32 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Pena's character was hilarious, I loved how everyone is his flashbacks talked like him.

dantemp · 0 points · Posted at 12:59:15 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Basically, all your cons were shit that had to happen in order keep it a two hour movie. Shame that we either get character development and shitty effects in a show or the opposite in a movie.

McMqsmith · 298 points · Posted at 02:04:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That Falcon fight was amazing.

CatsInCasts · 45 points · Posted at 09:42:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Hey something triggered the roof alarm." An ant?? Is this a reoccurring problem for the avengers?

hypocaffeinemia · 60 points · Posted at 11:12:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

In my headcanon, I suspect they have sophisticated electromagnetic monitoring and stuff like the radio waves used for communication between Scott and team would be detected even if not decrypted.

[deleted] · 30 points · Posted at 02:49:31 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Actually makes sense since Falcon responded directly to Scott when he thought he was only speaking to Hank.

Albireookami · 8 points · Posted at 03:22:09 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

He has the same mass and but not the weight? He can land with small force like a bullet amount enough to trip a sensor. I explain it with "pym particle"

snarkamedes · 13 points · Posted at 01:12:00 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Pym Particles are made out of fudge (secret recipe) because you can fudge as much detail with them as Flash does with the Speedforce.

the_1ceman · 5 points · Posted at 00:34:48 on July 30, 2015 · (Permalink)

So what you're really saying is Pym Particles are made of Pymforce?

snarkamedes · 1 points · Posted at 01:28:06 on July 30, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nope, chocolate fudge. Including any speedforce in the recipe would make it curdle and not taste very nice.

the_1ceman · 1 points · Posted at 01:57:21 on July 30, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's a good point. Curdled chocolate fudge just really isn't my vibe.

confused_chopstick · 5 points · Posted at 22:58:23 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm guessing he can control his weight by bleeding some of the mass to a separate dimension (the quantum thing referred to by Pym). That would help explain where the Hulk's mass comes from during the transformation from Banner. Maybe Pym doesn't fully realize how his particles work, because simply decreasing the distance between atoms would not allow them to shrink to subatomic size (you would run out of free space well before you got to subatomic).

Same thing as the Hulk transformation would explain the ant and the train that are expanded - no way the train could have crashed through the wall and crushed the car if it had the same mass but only bigger.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:02:39 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

Also I'm pretty sure the ant's exoskeleton couldn't hold itself in a size of a german shepard.

MeanAmbrose · 12 points · Posted at 05:15:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was great, but there's that part of me where I was peeved that Scott got the upper hand and won. In a superhero fight you should always have it end in a draw so neither guy looks weak.

Leockard · 50 points · Posted at 12:24:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Although he lost, Falcon didn't look week by any means. He just looked confused. I would like to see round two, though.

ykurashi · 3 points · Posted at 12:48:27 on November 30, 2015 · (Permalink)

If we're going by Marvel's comic standards, Falcon is a sub-avenger where Ant-Man is one of the Main Avengers, only reason the fight lasted that long was due to Falcon's experience. Round 2 would have Lang halting Falcon in seconds. Not that Falcon isn't a bad ass, he really is.

Sparkvoltage · 29 points · Posted at 04:06:16 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm okay with Falcon losing. My dude relies on his power of flight and firearms to take down opponents, neither of which are effective against Antman. Antman with his abilities is on a whole different league from Falcon, completely understandable though.

Dart06 · 51 points · Posted at 05:38:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

To be fair Falcon is essentially a B-tier superhero in the movie universe while Ant-Man is A-tier. I wouldn't expect Ant-Man to beat Iron Man, Thor etc.

roguepawn · 60 points · Posted at 06:16:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I mean, the guy did pull out submachine guns to shoot at a guy who was, what, an inch tall? Falcon's not the smartest in the MCU. The wing flap was effective, keep doing that. Spam low kick and make your player two rage quit.

Sparkvoltage · 19 points · Posted at 04:03:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yea that smg spray was kinda dumb and offputting considering his opponent's minuscule but then Antony did get shot so...

dtg108 · 33 points · Posted at 04:46:37 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Too soon

ykurashi · 1 points · Posted at 12:51:06 on November 30, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'd like to see any of the Avengers deal with Ant-Man once his Giant mode is shown on film, then let's re-visit this discussion.

Aitloian · 11 points · Posted at 23:27:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I kinda feel like it was a draw? Scott figured out how to destroy Falcons equipment before Falcon could destroy Ant-mans equipment? They both rely on gadgets for their powers.

MeanAmbrose · 3 points · Posted at 02:12:37 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah I guess that's true. I guess I'll have to see it again for further analysis.

[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 06:32:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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lumberzach316 · 59 points · Posted at 06:51:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It is a heist movie not an action movie.

ComebackShane · 23 points · Posted at 05:58:57 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

"It was never just a heist movie."

BritishHobo · -6 points · Posted at 16:27:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Gotta beg to differ. There was far more fighting than any sort of heist action. The big third act heist was over so quick so that they could get to an Ant-Man/Yellowjacket showdown.

lumberzach316 · 18 points · Posted at 21:01:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The whole movie was heist planning though. Like any heist movie it is 90% prep and only a little bit of it is the actual heist.

BritishHobo · -1 points · Posted at 21:45:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, but the heist is still fairly substantial. There really wasn't much of a heist here. They had the stuff with the water pressure, then they disabled an alarm so he could get in, and then it was straight back to the third act of a superhero movie.

ksaid1 · 9 points · Posted at 00:47:30 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

because the heist went wrong. which is classic heist

BritishHobo · 0 points · Posted at 00:56:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

But it usually stays a heist. The stakes are in them finding solutions to new problems that crop up, and ultimately pulling off the heist. The heist didn't go wrong, it ended, and then the film went back to being about a superhero fighting a supervillain.

GlobalVagabond · 2 points · Posted at 01:03:04 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm tired of Falcon getting his wings ripped off/destroyed all the time though. Maybe he could win a fight for once.

[deleted] · 204 points · Posted at 02:07:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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sugar_free_haribo · 120 points · Posted at 03:04:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Didn't really like that line...made it sound like those are three different heroes.

thedolaon · 9 points · Posted at 05:08:09 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wonder when that scene was shot.

[deleted] · 12 points · Posted at 06:05:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hero that runs - Could be anyone

Hero that swings - Could be Daredevil

Hero that climb up walls - Definitely Spidey

[deleted] · 30 points · Posted at 09:56:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

hero that runs - quicksilver

Hawkings_WheelChair · 4 points · Posted at 10:11:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hulk climbed up walks through both avenged films in those action scenes. Could have been him too

shotterken · 4 points · Posted at 15:35:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thor swings his hammer.

theMTNdewd · 3 points · Posted at 19:58:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Naw man its nightcrawler!

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 02:19:54 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hero that swings-could be tony ;)

Woolfus · 1 points · Posted at 15:31:16 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Also, Michael Pena was a bumbling storyteller so that could be why.

explosivo85 · 3 points · Posted at 01:59:45 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Clone Saga confirmed!

SannyK02 · 1 points · Posted at 13:48:18 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't remeber the line

bon_bons · 1 points · Posted at 19:46:21 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

it was in one of those "flashback" stories where everybody has that one dudes voice. he actually says "we got a guy that jumps, we got a guy that swings, we got a guy that climbs walls, you're gonna have to be more specific". might not be the exact phrasing but its more accurate than this dudes account

SannyK02 · 1 points · Posted at 00:16:19 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh ok

blaknwhitejungl · 1 points · Posted at 17:25:48 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

To be fair we were hearing it second- or third-hand

Coffee-Anon · 2 points · Posted at 21:55:22 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

she said "we've got a guy that jumps, a guy that swings, a guy that climbs walls"

Sounds like they could all be spider-man, and this could all be chalked up to Luis's strange and possibly inaccurate story telling, but I would like to know if there's a Marvel hero known particularly for something like jumping, does anyone know? And it wouldn't be anyone like Hulk or Thor bc Falcon knows who they are, it needs to be someone relatively unknown in the MCU

sbobsbobson · 1 points · Posted at 16:28:57 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought that the"jumps"could be referencing daredevil

Shazaamism327 · 237 points · Posted at 01:40:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Am I crazy or did anyone else see what looked like a silhouette of dr strange during the sub atomic sequence?

spacekristy · 292 points · Posted at 01:50:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought I saw a silhouette, but guessed maybe it was the original Wasp.

the-great-radsby · 192 points · Posted at 02:10:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yup. I definitely saw what looked like the silhouette of a woman, although that might've been because I was specifically looking for Janet.

SkywayTraffic · 58 points · Posted at 02:00:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Definitely looked like Wasp to me too. Unless there was more than one

Shazaamism327 · 10 points · Posted at 02:09:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I definitely feel like part of the silhouette was a cape

mermaidsdream · 3 points · Posted at 04:27:32 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought I saw a glimpse of something, too. My thought was when Scott went sub-atomic, he was going to (randomly) find her & bring her back with him - but that's likely another movie ;)

Minifig81 · 47 points · Posted at 01:42:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Welp, gunna have to go back for a second viewing now.

gatsby365 · 15 points · Posted at 04:58:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

like you weren't already going to...

Minifig81 · 1 points · Posted at 05:00:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ha. Guilty as charged. :)

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:01:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Don't be coy, you already made that decision when you walked out of the theater!

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:23:20 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

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djnicko · 83 points · Posted at 01:47:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That must be it. The director said he threw in a weird easter egg there, but I didn't read that til after the film. Thanks for answering the question! Can't wait to see picture proof.

walker10837 · 54 points · Posted at 04:15:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Def going to watch again and look more closely, when Pym started talking about shrinking into a dimension where time and space have no meaning, I was like "come on Strange, come on Strange."

Kiram · 3 points · Posted at 08:20:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was actually expecting an altogether weirder name-check, honestly. I thought one of the after-credits scenes was going to drop hints at the Microverse, but I guess Marvel is writing that out of their history entirely.

Probably for the best, but I kept wanting it to happen anyway. :(

stratus_x · 8 points · Posted at 00:54:08 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

IIRC, Peyton Reed said the subatomic space is the MCU version of the Microverse.

thomar · 2 points · Posted at 06:33:38 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

At the end Pym muses about this, so it's not out of the realm of possibility.

Sanjispride · 3 points · Posted at 08:20:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was expecting a hint at another infinity stone, tbh.

ErikWithNoC · 10 points · Posted at 02:06:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I definitely thought I saw a silhouette of some kind during that scene. Figured either it was vaguely Dr. Strange or I was just too excited about it

AkaBBaka · 7 points · Posted at 07:08:28 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm hoping to eventually see a screenshot of this silhouette everyone's talking about, because I was keeping my eyes out for a glimpse of Jan during that scene due to the whole flag they set that she'd shrunk rather than been killed, but I didn't notice anything. Must have been focusing on the wrong thing.

esd07004 · 7 points · Posted at 02:06:25 on December 10, 2015 · (Permalink)

http://i.imgur.com/StooSKG.jpg

AkaBBaka · 1 points · Posted at 09:02:55 on December 10, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thanks for that

Zyner · 5 points · Posted at 05:21:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Some say it was Wasp but I am really hoping it was Dr Strange, the whole idea of being in a new realm links to the mysticism that's supposed to be brought in with Dr Strange. Perhaps Dr Strange felt/saw Ant-Man enter his realm and before he could reach out to him Ant-Man left (since being so small gives kind of a time difference I assume Dr Strange didn't even have seconds to react)

wingzero00 · 3 points · Posted at 01:43:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What!?

Really, i missed it, time for a rewatch then.

shotterken · 3 points · Posted at 15:16:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdT89v2xASw

Peyton Reed says there is an easter egg in the Microverse and you can see someone. You might be right!

SIMULATIONTERMINATED · 5 points · Posted at 05:41:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Calling it right now. Dr Strange brings back Hank Pym's wife.

SockPenguin · 6 points · Posted at 06:59:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I feel like Janet coming back in Ant Man 2 is almost definitely going to happen (no reason to avoid showing her face in that picture and her speaking in that flashback unless you wanted to avoid casting someone right now) one way or another. Dr. Strange being the one to do it would be a cool crossover.

Worthyness · 1 points · Posted at 06:57:30 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Making her the Red Queen after spending decades in the Quantum Realm would be awesome.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 04:15:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was the microverse right?

prophetofgreed · 1 points · Posted at 06:06:43 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes

edtehgar · 2 points · Posted at 22:25:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Uh i didnt see anything and i was loking for janet. Just molecular shapes.

esd07004 · 2 points · Posted at 02:02:21 on December 10, 2015 · (Permalink)

Best I could do frame-by-frame. Looks more clear in motion. When he's falling through space, the figure appears just after a bright flash fills the screen. After the appearance, the reflection can be blurrily seen in Ant-Man's helmet.

http://i.imgur.com/StooSKG.jpg

TheMexicanRobot · 2 points · Posted at 21:54:18 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

As soon as hank referenced another reality from going sub atomic I was like, DR STRWNGE! Also is it possible DR,S help hanks wife out of the sub atomic space?

three_hands_man · 2 points · Posted at 03:01:07 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm betting it was Tilda Swinton's Ancient One.

samsaBEAR · 1 points · Posted at 23:38:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

When Hank was telling them what happened to Janet, I was really hoping he'd mention Doctor Strange, just as a passing reference. As the next new character, it would have been cool to tie him in like that.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:37:37 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I didn't catch it. Got source?

confused_chopstick · 1 points · Posted at 22:41:39 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really didn't understand the whole subatomic thing. I get that there is danger in shrinking too much/fast that you'll enter the quantum realm or whatever. What I don't understand is how Wasp or Scott could actually do any damage once they were subatomic sized to "slip between the molecules" - when we see Scott inside Yellow jacket's armor, he is clearly not remotely close to subatomic, as he zooms in and tears everything up. They should have created a different scenario that would require them to shrink too much, not to slip between the molecules of titanium (twice!)

Anaron · 2 points · Posted at 23:32:11 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

He tore everything up while he was shrinking. The size that he shrunk to is so small that it took awhile to get to that size. Also, the smaller he gets the more dense he becomes. And higher density means higher strength.

freelancespy87 · 1 points · Posted at 05:59:18 on August 5, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was actually probably Eternity (which was a word being echoed at the time). Basically an omnipotent figure in the marvel universe.

LiteraryBoner · 0 points · Posted at 02:08:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was too busy wondering what it'd be like to see that scene on hallucinogens. Prior experience says probably pretty mind blowing.

[deleted] · 382 points · Posted at 04:14:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

So, am I wrong... or did they introduce the Microverse with this movie?

Also I loved it. I mean Marvel keeps its streak of not making BAD movies.

And that kid was adorable. Best. Child. Actor. Ever.

[deleted] · 197 points · Posted at 09:01:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I hope she stays a good actor over the course of ten years because they'll need her for the eventual Young Avengers movie!

SutterCane · 109 points · Posted at 19:57:49 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can't even drive yet and she's signed up for a thirty picture deal with Marvel.

dexter30 · 19 points · Posted at 22:36:42 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ah yes, the Disney "my lil star" contract

Impeesa_ · 8 points · Posted at 08:26:31 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Kid from Iron Man 3 signed one of those, Young Avengers roster shaping up!

zoethebitch · 4 points · Posted at 20:00:13 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Seriously though:

Sebastian Stan was quoted in an interview saying MCU actors have to sign a NINE PICTURE contract before even doing a screen test.

SutterCane · 2 points · Posted at 20:53:29 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wonder if that's just because his was an important part. Like Nick Fury or Hulk.

twitchedawake · 7 points · Posted at 00:54:47 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Probably dont want a Hulk type situation where you have 3 people playing him in a decade, or RDJ situation where they use up his contract before they finish with the character

InvalidZod · 2 points · Posted at 00:37:57 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I just wanna see her go toe to toe with O'Grady

lalicornetimide · 1 points · Posted at 19:30:29 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Exactly what I said to my friend.

giggles288 · 54 points · Posted at 13:50:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I kept thinking that this micro-verse is where people will be sent in Civil War, instead of the Negative Zone and Reed Richards.

Probably not, but it'd be cool.

JZA1 · 7 points · Posted at 23:35:45 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

They need to recreate the MCU version of the "Big House", which was a miniaturized prison where the Avengers would send incarcerated supervillains.

adunn13 · 41 points · Posted at 05:20:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ant-Man 2: The Microverse

dialMARK4acti0n · 25 points · Posted at 20:23:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'd dig a hunt for Janet movie with the Microverse setting and a return for Corey Stohl.

under_lord · 3 points · Posted at 04:47:05 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm hoping for Ant-Man 2: Giant-Man

mistahtogether · 3 points · Posted at 14:45:07 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Or just Giant-man. That would be cool.

misplaced_my_pants · 1 points · Posted at 06:13:07 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ant-Man 2: The Microverse: Electric Bugaloo

thepenguinpablo · 26 points · Posted at 04:56:50 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Apparently, 20th Century Fox owns the right to the word "Microverse", so Marvel swapped it out for the "Quantum Zone"

Blackbeard_ · 11 points · Posted at 06:08:23 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Realm.

prophetofgreed · 13 points · Posted at 06:16:23 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

They did, but Fox has the rights to the name, hence the Quantum Zone. (sad that has to be the case, but the sequence in the Microverse was amazing!)

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 06:34:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

How does Fox have the microverse too?

prophetofgreed · 24 points · Posted at 06:50:55 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fantastic Four probably.

Honestly, if Marvel manages to get their rights back it would be a bigger deal to the overall MCU than Spidey coming back because of the huge amount of stuff that the Fantastic Four rights carry. (The Watcher, Galactus, Doctor Doom, The Maker, Skrulls, the Badoon, Kang the Conquer, Negative Zone, Annihilus and the Silver Surfer)

edwartica · 7 points · Posted at 23:05:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

They have the rights to the watcher? Ugg. come on Fox, play nice already! Sony is!

suss2it · 8 points · Posted at 03:44:19 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah but only because Sony's in a position where they have to. Fox has been knocking it out of the park with their X-Men movies so they're not desperate like Sony was.

spinney · 2 points · Posted at 03:26:51 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I have a feeling Fantastic Four won't do well though so we'll see. Maybe (and that's a big maybe) if the new F4 doesn't do well Fox would be willing to listen to offers from Marvel.

suss2it · 2 points · Posted at 05:11:34 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Even if it fails I wonder if Fox would be willing to give back the rights so soon. They might try something like X-Men vs Fantastic Four as a last ditch effort.

spinney · 2 points · Posted at 06:12:14 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yea that's likely what I think would happen. Maybe Marvel would make a crazy offer or something. (I just really wish Marvel Studios had Doom.)

suss2it · 1 points · Posted at 06:20:12 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Marvel hasn't exactly blown me away with the villains they do have, so I'm in no hurry to see them get Doctor Doom.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 16:05:24 on November 6, 2015 · (Permalink)

It didn't so well....

Kiram · 7 points · Posted at 17:27:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was really expecting some sort of mircoverse reveal in the after-credits scene. Apparently, the directors were refering to the place he went when he super-shrunk as "the microverse", so maybe they have plans (or at least ideas) for exploring that whole universe more in the future.

serefina · 2 points · Posted at 04:02:41 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's so ugly! I love it!

XxL3THALxX · 2 points · Posted at 21:27:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Holy crap! I think you may be right. Will we be getting a Micronauts film?

skonen_blades · 1 points · Posted at 09:39:51 on August 2, 2015 · (Permalink)

That would blow my mind.

rbevans · 2 points · Posted at 15:36:58 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

They sure did! However just not called the Microverse. I think it's Sony who owns the rights to Microverse so Marvel is changing terms like mutants are now called enhancements.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:56:18 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well The Wasp is in the micronauts comics.

slayerje1 · 1 points · Posted at 08:31:34 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, her and the little boy in Looper were way too adorable in their roles

RubberDong · 1 points · Posted at 22:43:57 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

what is the microverse?

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:40:25 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

A Microverse is a dimension that can be reached from the Earth dimension by shrinking with Pym Particles that compress a persons matter to a certain to a certain point, thereby forcing it through an artificially created nexus into the other universe.

Bizcotti · 1 points · Posted at 23:18:50 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was really hoping to see a couple Micronauts before he came out of it

nechneb · 1 points · Posted at 03:02:10 on July 31, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was pretty disappointed with age of ultron.

jetpack_operation · 1 points · Posted at 23:38:24 on July 31, 2015 · (Permalink)

You know, a couple of years ago, a Micronauts movie would have been completely out of the question, but here we are a year or so out from a Guardians of the Galaxy film...

The_Squiv · 0 points · Posted at 18:56:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was thinking the exact same thing about the Microverse and started dreaming about be possibility of a Micronauts movie. Then, I started dreaming about Bug being in a future Guardians of the Galaxy movie. Ah well... Wishful thinking.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:38:42 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

iron man 2 and the thor movies kinda suck. Not too crazy about iron man 3. AoU was meh. That said, Ant man was awesome.

homeboi808 · -13 points · Posted at 12:57:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Best. Child. Actor. Ever.

Ain't got nothing on Henry Thomas trying out for E.T. or Haley Joel Osment in movies like Pay it Forward, or Mackenzie Foy in Interstellar, though she's a little older than them.

The girl was only 6 during the filming of Ant-Man so I got to giver her props, but definitely not the best child actor.

[deleted] · 25 points · Posted at 14:39:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I dunno. She seemed more like an actual little girl. Some of the others you felt were actors playing children.

This one felt like a real girl, who happened to act.

[deleted] · 340 points · Posted at 02:04:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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ActuallyMike · 68 points · Posted at 13:13:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I love the idea of Hank just walking around with a cold war era tank that he took from the Russians in his pocket.

sirbauman · 66 points · Posted at 04:37:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's not a keychain was the best part. And there were ALOT of great parts.

nicolauz · 2 points · Posted at 03:35:14 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Half way through I asked my friend 'what if that Keychain tank could be a mini real one?' and boom!

freelancespy87 · -2 points · Posted at 05:57:42 on August 5, 2015 · (Permalink)

Alot...

This is for you.

Estivenrex18 · 11 points · Posted at 20:54:12 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Luis:What? What?? I cant hear you there's a tank!

Kosko · 8 points · Posted at 16:26:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I agree, but how many films are actually revolutionary?

svrtngr · 18 points · Posted at 23:42:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Iron Man and The Avengers are probably the only two.

mr3inches · 3 points · Posted at 08:02:49 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Spiderman?!

twitchedawake · 1 points · Posted at 00:57:19 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

What would be revolutionary about it?

mr3inches · 3 points · Posted at 01:17:11 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well I'm no movie expert, but all I can say is when I saw the original 2002 Spider-Man I was completely blown away. I think it's what put Marvel films on the map.

twitchedawake · -1 points · Posted at 01:57:34 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Iron-Man is definitely what got people to realize that Super Hero films could be good and profitable.

mr3inches · 1 points · Posted at 03:30:10 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

How is an 89% on Rotten Tomatoes and making 820,000,000 million worldwide not a good and profitable Super Hero film?

twitchedawake · 1 points · Posted at 03:34:23 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

I didnt say it wasnt.

mr3inches · 1 points · Posted at 03:47:21 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

So what's your Iron Man argument then?

twitchedawake · 1 points · Posted at 04:06:06 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)*

That it kick started the over saturation of hero movies we have.

Spider-man 2 and 3, X3 and that Hulk movie pretty much killed the franchise. Iron came along, showed that it could be done well, and now we're getting 5 or 6 hero movies a year.

Im not saying Spider-man was bad, hell Spider-man 2 is one of my favourites, but it was not revolutionary in the same way Ironman and The Avengers was.

mbrochh · 13 points · Posted at 16:23:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Isn't it supposed to retain it's mass when shrunk? So by the rules of the movie it should have been impossible to carry this in a pocket.

Was funny, though.

silvershadow881 · 53 points · Posted at 00:52:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Pym particles.

Ain't got to explain shit.

For further references, see Speed Force.

jwjmaster · 5 points · Posted at 16:20:13 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's the DC version of speed force?

JManoclay · 26 points · Posted at 22:14:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It retains density and energy, but somehow not mass. Otherwise everyone would have collapsed under Scott's weight when he was standing on their shoulders or climbing their bodies.

cdawgtv2 · 9 points · Posted at 23:15:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Doesn't it increase density?

JManoclay · 6 points · Posted at 23:18:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oops, yeah you're right. Whatever it does I guess he doesn't weigh the same amount.

Hitech_hillbilly · 12 points · Posted at 17:49:39 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, I doubt an ant could fly with a 200lb person on it's back... so yeah, defintely doesn't retain the weight somehow.

AkaBBaka · 6 points · Posted at 07:12:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Mass is shunted to a 'pym particle' dimension, I believe from my old memories of the comic. Much like mass is taken from that dimension when they grow bigger than their original size.

MimeGod · 3 points · Posted at 00:33:07 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's a weird mix. it's like he keeps his force when striking something, but his mass is still at the lower level.

letdown105 · 3 points · Posted at 02:50:49 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

RIP

MaximumAbsorbency · 3 points · Posted at 13:46:50 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

"WHAT I CAN'T HEAR YOU THERE'S A TANK"

TWK128 · 2 points · Posted at 05:57:07 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Figured it was gonna come into play when Scott grabbed it at the house.

Perfect payoff.

ivan4ik · 1 points · Posted at 08:11:17 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Keychain is the worst plothole - even if he shrunk the tank, his mass stayed the same.

jetpack_operation · 1 points · Posted at 23:43:19 on July 31, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nope. How would Scott ride an ant if he retained his mass?

ivan4ik · 1 points · Posted at 06:53:41 on August 3, 2015 · (Permalink)

How could he land those punches if he didn't?

ferrarisnowday · 1 points · Posted at 04:30:01 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

I completely agree. They are capturing the comic book feel perfectly. At this point a new marvel movie really is just like reading a new comic book issue in an ongoing story. They don't have to stand on their own; the strength of the series carries them through in context.

Antman on it's own is maybe a 6/10. But as part of the MCU it's a solid 8 or 9.

jwjmaster · -1 points · Posted at 16:19:29 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Getting seriously disappointed at the one dimensional villains. Some of the forced jokes fell a bit flat for me as well. Can't complain about anything else, good movie.

ram-a-gin-satan · 125 points · Posted at 19:06:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The lack of Mac and Me in the film was disappointing

Dasnap · 10 points · Posted at 13:49:29 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, it would have been great if they had it playing on a TV in the background or something.

SillyNonsense · 3 points · Posted at 22:58:11 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

Someone later needs to make a fan-edit of this movie and the only singular change is adding this into the movie.

ClintonHarvey · 4 points · Posted at 08:08:04 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was thinking about it the entire time.

As long as it's in your heart, it's on the screen❤️

PeteOverdrive · 436 points · Posted at 01:40:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Love WAS the fifth dimension!

The action scenes were incredibly creative, and some of the comedy (like the Baskin Robbins bit) were top notch. But I feel like a lot of the scenes between Pym and his daughter took themselves a bit too seriously, and were pretty jarring given the tone of the rest of the movie. Also some pretty awkward exposition. But shit like the Anthony Mackie fight scene totally made up for it.

Also, killing the sheep is WAY more manipulative than killing the dog.

the-great-radsby · 629 points · Posted at 02:47:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I got SO hyped when Scott flew through the clouds and BAM

NEW AVENGERS BASE

I love how these films are finally beginning to feel like a crisscrossing world!

mastyrwerk · 397 points · Posted at 03:32:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They handled the references really well.

This movie can stand alone as a fun scifi heist flick, yet it also cemented itself strongly in the universe.

I love how they explained not getting the Avengers involved. It worked for the story. By having Howard Stark oppose him, it made him reticent to ask Tony Stark for help.

Also the line about lifting cities up was perfect.

[deleted] · 91 points · Posted at 13:16:09 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I liked that when Pym references the Avengers fight against Ultron negatively, the whole city in the sky thing, it shows us that not everyone in the MCU is exactly happy about the Avengers presence after that fight. It just helped make a whole lot of sense as to why this fight was Pym's. Although you'd think the main villain wouldn't be as silly in parts, it's not like he'd know that if anyone found out the Avengers wouldn't be called. The yellow jacket suit is pretty powerful.

ShasOFish · 43 points · Posted at 05:51:31 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Plus, this is after all the SHIELD/HYDRA stuff went public, so of course Pym is going to feel betrayed by them; he had been unintentionally helping the bad guys the entire time.

rentonwong · 25 points · Posted at 16:28:01 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Especially when it turned out the guy he punched really did work for HYDRA.

akong_supern00b · 13 points · Posted at 19:01:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Makes sense too, since HYDRA was really into snatching up as much interesting tech as they could, like senator Sterns in IM2.

DeadeyeDuncan · 3 points · Posted at 16:44:28 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Seriously though, how had that guy not been investigated/found out after Winter Soldier? He was pretty high up in SHIELD so it doesn't really make any sense that he wasn't under investigation.

rentonwong · 2 points · Posted at 07:18:39 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Maybe records got destroyed when all sleeper agents were activated...

Or he decided not to reveal his ties immediately when all that madness was happening

rentonwong · -3 points · Posted at 07:19:47 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

The yellow jacket suit is pretty powerful.

Yes it shoots Star Wars laser beams

gatsby365 · 23 points · Posted at 00:24:42 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Also the line about lifting cities up was perfect.

There was also a headline on a newspaper when Scott was flying the first time - "Who's responsible for Sokovia?"

InvalidZod · 6 points · Posted at 00:36:34 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think this is the first movies to handle being in the universe well while still being relatively separate. We see the universe, the universe effects our story and at the same time we have a really good reason for avoiding the parts we can(and interacting with the parts we do).

imbignate · 13 points · Posted at 15:07:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"The first thing we should do is... Call the Avengers"

your_mind_aches · 4 points · Posted at 18:11:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

With less and less installments of the big 3 franchises (Iron Man franchise is already done, Captain America franchise will be finished next year, and Thor a year after that), I think we'll begin to feel those connections a lot more.

LittleInfidel · 5 points · Posted at 16:13:11 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

It cracks me up that Stark basically haunts every film.

It makes the ego make more sense. Everyone really IS talking about Tony Stark.

samcuu · 1 points · Posted at 10:42:43 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved that as soon as the Avengers logo revealed, there's a small bit of the Avengers theme being played.

[deleted] · 119 points · Posted at 02:34:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think the film acknowledged the seriousness of the Pym/Hope relationship by offsetting with Lang's humorous interjection about getting tea.

PeteOverdrive · 11 points · Posted at 02:46:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

True, that got one of the biggest laughs out of me.

NormalNormalNormal · 6 points · Posted at 06:56:27 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The subatomic shrink scene definitely reminded me of Interstellar.

twitchedawake · 3 points · Posted at 00:45:07 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Made me think of that 2001 scene.

Thought it was REALLY well done, especially with him smashing the circuitry as he falls.

NormalNormalNormal · 2 points · Posted at 02:55:03 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

The only thing I didn't like about that was the scale seemed off. He had to go between the molecules to reach the circuitry, but he seemed to be much larger than molecular size when he was tearing it apart.

twitchedawake · 1 points · Posted at 03:19:45 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well it would make sense that the suit would use advanced nano circuitry that evolved from Starktech or something to make it function. He didnt really need to go subatomic, he just needed to fit through the crack in the armour, which to him was maybe the width/length of a cellphone. He couldn't shrink small enough safely, so when he removed the Regulator he could, but he had now way of stopping his shrinking when he did. So he just kinda smashed what he could on he way down.

ribblesquat · 3 points · Posted at 03:04:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Love will steer the stars!

under_lord · 3 points · Posted at 05:09:09 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

More like the 5th Element! (I just watched The Fifth Element )

ksaid1 · 2 points · Posted at 11:58:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

When that lamb was being lead to the slaughter, it was almost as if... it was like... I dunno, I'm sure there's some expression for it.

pngwn · 0 points · Posted at 04:43:58 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Probably in a foreign language.

kekekefear · 2 points · Posted at 15:49:38 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Also some pretty awkward exposition.

Dude, remember when they jaild you for 3 years for stealing money from evil company, because you are so good as Robin Hood?

trafficrush · 81 points · Posted at 01:58:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Just got out! It's fun, funny, and aware of how silly the idea if it all is, and plays off of that fact well.

Michael Pena stole every scene he was in and was one of my favorite parts of the entire film.

I will definitely be giving this another watch!

BlackFireXSamin · 217 points · Posted at 01:47:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone else catch the "we got a guy who swings, a guy who can crawl up walls," reference? Hella excited if he's already in existence by the time CivIl War releases.

tyler422 · 159 points · Posted at 03:32:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He is. Kevin Fiege said in an interview that he's already swinging around New York fighting crime.

RiPont · 20 points · Posted at 06:21:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

No origin story is the official word.

Maybe he'll get a cameo on Daredevil or AoS before showing up in a full length movie.

prophetofgreed · 10 points · Posted at 06:13:40 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I doubt it since Sony wants to keep him in the movies. If anything having Spidey villains and side characters featured in other stuff could be great.

Guys like Hammerhead, Tombstone, and Silver Mane would be perfect for Daredevil to fight. That or Dewolff being featured as a New York cop.

Kosko · 1 points · Posted at 16:32:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing an origin in a different property. Or if there was an actual need in the plot to explore his past.

grangach · 1 points · Posted at 08:06:19 on August 2, 2015 · (Permalink)

hopefully he gets a cameo in one of the netflix shows.

gatsby365 · 13 points · Posted at 05:00:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Feige has said for a while that Spiderman is an active "hero" well before Civil War.

RadiantViper · 8 points · Posted at 02:50:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I believe they've stated that Spider-Man already exists in the MCU. Just somewhere in the background. I expect the references and/or cameos to increase up til the MCU Spider-Man film.

BlackFireXSamin · 3 points · Posted at 02:58:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well he's confirmed to be in Civil War, isn't he? That'd mean he's been active and ready to go. Color me excited.

Liam4242 · 1 points · Posted at 06:34:50 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

No origin story again :D

WNMLP · 72 points · Posted at 20:26:31 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Quick fact I caught in the credits: The voice of Cassie's ugly bunny is none other than Tom Kenny, voice of SpongeBob!

Great movie though really enjoyable.

[deleted] · 11 points · Posted at 01:02:39 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Arr they after me Pymmie Particle Formuler!

Cenoflame · 98 points · Posted at 01:48:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Awesome easter eggs. Anyone else catch the Ten Rings tattoo?

architrave · 143 points · Posted at 03:29:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Pena was whistling "It's a Small World" in Pym Tech while trying to blend in.

[deleted] · 20 points · Posted at 06:14:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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architrave · 3 points · Posted at 08:14:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

As a non-American who has never been to or heard much about Disneyland I was pretty happy I picked up on it

aadmiralackbar · 3 points · Posted at 22:32:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I caught that. What's the significance behind it?

gatsby365 · 28 points · Posted at 00:30:26 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Disney movie about a guy who shrinks.

aadmiralackbar · 9 points · Posted at 00:38:06 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Top kek.

thomar · 3 points · Posted at 06:36:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's a children's song from a ride at Disney Land. About 50% of the lines start with "It's a small world," which is the punchline.

shadow_of_octavian · 2 points · Posted at 23:38:10 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Man first ultron singing No strings on me and now this.

ClarkZuckerberg · 2 points · Posted at 10:26:37 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah I noticed that too. Thank God Disney bought Marvel or we'd never have gotten that ;)

axcairns · 33 points · Posted at 05:22:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ten Rings

One of my secret dreams is that the Mandarin is more than just a drunk english actor with a love for football but is actually an extremely good actor and completely fooled Stark and Rhodey into thinking he was just a front for Killian. Ben Kingsley can pull it off.

Zeus_Wayne · 43 points · Posted at 05:56:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If you haven't seen the Marvel one shot All Hail the King you should definitely check it out.

IAmTheWaller67 · 10 points · Posted at 06:43:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Trevor's prison best friend is Terry Tate, Office Linebacker!

Gaaargh · 6 points · Posted at 02:52:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

You kill the joe, you make some mo'!

IAmTheWaller67 · 3 points · Posted at 03:22:05 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

THE PAIN TRAINS COMIN! WOO WOO! WOO WOO!

Pvt_Hudson_ · 2 points · Posted at 04:22:28 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hi Janice!

axcairns · 6 points · Posted at 06:30:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was awesome!

Shaxys · 1 points · Posted at 19:23:41 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Do they use their "One-shots"?

Because the Ten Rings seem super hype.

samsaBEAR · 5 points · Posted at 23:51:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

At the reveal of Trevor I really hoped that he was simply a normal guy, but when he put the Rings on he became the Mandarin because of the beings that inhabit the Rings. They could easily do this after introducing Doctor Strange and more magic/supernatural elements into the MCU.

homeboi808 · 16 points · Posted at 01:57:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

On who?

Cenoflame · 31 points · Posted at 02:03:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

On one of the guys when bald guy was showing the suit.

Cenoflame · 16 points · Posted at 02:08:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

One of the business suit guys, might have been bidders for the suit.

[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 21:18:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

WHO HAD THE 10 RINGS TAT?!

thomar · 5 points · Posted at 06:36:57 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

One of the Hydra guy's bodyguards.

blankedboy · 4 points · Posted at 04:28:55 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Milgrom Hotel was cool as well

BlackFireXSamin · 2 points · Posted at 02:07:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

When?

Cenoflame · 3 points · Posted at 02:23:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Forget which part exactly. But it was either near the beginning when Hank Pym showed up to Cross's unveiling of the suit, or the part at the end when The hydra guy was buying the suit.

Dead-Eric · 2 points · Posted at 18:09:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Who had that? One of the goons looking to buy the yellowjacket?

Cenoflame · 3 points · Posted at 18:29:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yep, I believe so. I'll double check on sunday when I see it again.

wingzero00 · 1 points · Posted at 02:00:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Where?

ScreechingEels · 1 points · Posted at 23:04:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Who had the tattoo?

cyvaris · 1 points · Posted at 14:21:25 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

When did that happen? I missed it.

Cenoflame · 2 points · Posted at 16:27:17 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's easy to miss. He was the hydra guy with the beard and mustache.

aquaman54 · 1 points · Posted at 20:28:51 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Tales to astonish"

EdtotheWord · 1 points · Posted at 06:27:11 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Whoooaa. Who had the tattoo?

Cenoflame · 1 points · Posted at 15:00:48 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's not easy to see, because it's quick. It was the hydra guy with the facial hair.

JPOV · 259 points · Posted at 01:33:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm in the system?! I fucking love this movie.

LiteraryBoner · 177 points · Posted at 02:09:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Baskin Robbins always finds out.

botanyisfun · 3 points · Posted at 22:59:51 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Baskin Robbins knows all bro

BlackFireXSamin · 8 points · Posted at 01:55:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

You're in the system!

the-great-radsby · 5 points · Posted at 02:52:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

^{^{^The}} ^{^{^system?!}}

ZamrosX · 4 points · Posted at 11:32:10 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm in the syzem.

j00rbuddy · 64 points · Posted at 04:45:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Finally, a legit super heroine given at the end. I love the Black Widow, but being 'comfortable with everything' is not a super power. I've been wanting Wasp in the Avengers since IM1. Civil War will do.

[deleted] · 36 points · Posted at 05:26:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I love that they even addressed that with her comment being something like "its about time"

[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 22:00:01 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

The problem with Black Widow is that she can't fully show off her range of skills without some kind of spy plot. Winter Soldier got some of that but as you said, there's a major difference between a top soldier (like Widow and Hawkeye) and legitimate super powers (like Cap and Iron Man).

And they do have Scarlet Witch now too.

w41twh4t · 8 points · Posted at 17:03:24 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

After the Thanos story we could see not only an Avengers movie with Ant-man, Wasp, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Falcon, War Machine, and Spider-man and not a single original Avenger.

Wealthy_Gadabout · 6 points · Posted at 22:02:52 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I like the idea too of an obstinate and paranoid Hank Pym backing his own cadre of heroes that could rival the Avengers. This movie, which on the surface seems very small and self contained could form the backbone of the conflict in Civil War.

Firefly007 · 1 points · Posted at 02:44:19 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wasp isn't going to be in Civil War unfortunately

[deleted] · 31 points · Posted at 00:36:14 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)*

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BigTaker · 9 points · Posted at 01:01:49 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Much Later: Ends up joining the Avengers.

[deleted] · 59 points · Posted at 02:29:00 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

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Netwinn · 31 points · Posted at 04:35:16 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Also Zoolander...it was a building for ants!!

Leockard · 124 points · Posted at 02:21:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

OK, I'm the stupid fellow who left the theater after the mid-credits scene and didn't stay for the end-credits scene. Anyone want to write it up? Thanks.

homeboi808 · 164 points · Posted at 02:24:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Cap, Falcon, and Bucky are in a room. Bucky's metal arm looks to be broken .Cap says he doesn't want to tell Tony about Bucky. Falcon says he knows a guy.

Leockard · 106 points · Posted at 02:28:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Holy crap that is huge. Was Bucky alright? Did it seem like Cap and Falcon had just found him? (They went looking after him after TWS, yes?) What does Cap not want to tell Tony?

Oh my god why did I leave the theater?

homeboi808 · 34 points · Posted at 02:32:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It took place in a warehouse type looking room. Bucky was sitting in a chair with his metal arm in some contraption (nothing high tech, looked like regular equipment). It wasn't like they were buddy-buddy, but there wasn't any animosity.

Dr_Disaster · 11 points · Posted at 20:10:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, it kinda looked like maybe Bucky and Cap got into a scuffle and Cap was able to pin Bucky's arm in some sort of hydraulic press. It was pretty tense.

TrueKNite · 4 points · Posted at 04:32:39 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I didnt think of that, my initial thought was Bucky was trying to take the arm of himself for some reason, but that makes much more sense.

epsiblivion · 3 points · Posted at 06:39:45 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

pro tip: I always google "mediastinger moviename" as soon as credits roll to see how many scenes there are

MulciberTenebras · 7 points · Posted at 02:31:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He doesn't want to tell Tony because he's being a fucking douche and is trying to forcibly register superhumans as weapons for the US govt... pardoning supervillains and recruiting them to hunt down those that oppose him!

deadlast · 34 points · Posted at 03:31:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Or, you know, bringing democratic oversight to the whole superhumans business.

keyree · 20 points · Posted at 22:14:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think you're the first person I've ever seen on the pro-Tony side of Civil War.

Version_1 · 5 points · Posted at 22:53:54 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I can understand his point. Still hope they don't go the route Mulciber describes but amore reasonable Tony Stark.

Korten12 · 7 points · Posted at 09:19:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Or that Bucky killed his parents... As we were told in TWS.

cayal3 · 6 points · Posted at 00:11:05 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Has nothing to do with Bucky killing his parents.

Cap specifically mentions something to do with the accords and Tony.

PabloNueve · 1 points · Posted at 20:52:46 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Bucky likely killed Tony's parent.s

DevinJKing · 2 points · Posted at 13:20:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes they just found Bucky. It's implied Bucky killed Tony's parents, and considering they say, "This would have been fine if this was a week ago" means that they're in the middle of Civil War already. Because in Civil War, Tony leads heroes that kill villains and Cap leads heroes that don't kill.

Who's the guy that falcon knows? Not quite sure. Someone with mind abilities, my guess is Dr. strange, the movie after civil war.

cayal3 · 26 points · Posted at 00:11:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Who's the guy that falcon knows?

Ant Man.

[deleted] · 17 points · Posted at 03:04:26 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The very last scene in the movie was about Falcon looking for who Ant Man was. Then in the final credits scene he says he knows a guy. Then it says "ant man will return."

I think its safe to assume he's talking about Ant Man.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 17:52:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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BagdadSuperior · 2 points · Posted at 06:03:27 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

And it's like his movie or something...

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 14:38:12 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Holy shit. I'm so psyched for Civil War.

cayal3 · 2 points · Posted at 00:10:08 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh my god why did I leave the theater?

There's a potato quality video out on the web somewhere.

ScreechingEels · 1 points · Posted at 23:08:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Cap and Falcon looked tired and sweaty and Bucky's arm was clamped down in a punch press. Cap probably didn't want Tony to know they found Bucky (seeing how Winter Soldier killed Howard), and the Civil War is coming.

mrshock13 · 1 points · Posted at 21:35:49 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not to worry, r/Leockard. The scene is a daily taken from Cap: Civil War, so while you did miss it this weekend, you will see the exact scene in a broader context come next spring.

TheMexicanRobot · 1 points · Posted at 21:55:37 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Buckey looks beat up, they're in some solid concrete room. If this is happening during CA:CW then cap and tony aren't very buddy buddy at this time.

PewterCityGymLdr · 1 points · Posted at 02:07:59 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fear not, my friend.

Here's a clip of it so you can get excited just like all of us. http://youtu.be/GlRMEny3Nys Someone made a good guess in saying maybe this clip is already after the Civil War has begun (Falcon says a line saying "if this happened last week, it would have been easy")

ClarkZuckerberg · 1 points · Posted at 10:21:06 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Bucky was alright but he was handcuffed to a pole or something and sitting on the ground (this looked to be in some sort of warehouse). The way they talked it didn't seem like they had him very long but for a bit at least. Can't remember exactly why he doesn't want Tony involved I think it's just because of how tense Age of Ultron was he doesn't want to get in a big huge mess with Tony again so Falcon wants to bring in Ant-Man. Basically it's the culmination of that scene at the end where Michel Pena is doing his fast talking story telling thing and then Falcon was looking for Ant-Man.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 03:03:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Bucky was trying to rip his metal arm off.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 03:22:16 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Better watch it again

Conjugal_Burns · 3 points · Posted at 05:59:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What's he mean by "I know a guy"? I feel stupid asking that. Everyone else seems excited about it.

Ballistica · 5 points · Posted at 10:38:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He means he knows ant-man

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 14:05:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

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homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 14:09:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's the mid-credit. The Civil War scene (yes it's an actual clip from Cap 3) was after all the credits.

There are many sites which will tell you whether there are mid/after credits, some will even spoil them for you. I always check when going to a Marvel movie.

spleck · 1 points · Posted at 14:19:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I assumed they had Bucky's arm caught in some kind of press to hold him there.

SannyK02 · 1 points · Posted at 13:51:04 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

What the hell, I left the theatre after he showed his the wasp suit . I never would have thought there would have been more after the second rolling of credits.

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 14:24:04 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Most marvel movies have mid and after credit scenes. This site will let you know if there are mid/after credits for upcoming movies, you can look up the past Marvel movies and it will spoil them for you, for example in Iron Man (2008) Nick Fury appeared in Stark's home and talked to him about the Avenger's initiative, for Thor (2011) Fury show's Dr. Selvig the Tesseract and we see Loki mind control Selvig.

orphenshadow · 1 points · Posted at 16:02:23 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Is he referring to Hank or Scott? I mean Hank has no love for the Starks and both Hank and Scott have the skills. Would make sense to me.

dugpdcv · 1 points · Posted at 21:00:05 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Who is the guy he's talking about ? Pym ?

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 21:08:35 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

No, Scott, he never met Pym.

dugpdcv · 1 points · Posted at 21:11:48 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

You're right ! Thanks for the heads up !

lolroflqwerty · 30 points · Posted at 04:01:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Here's a recording if you want watch the actual thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlRMEny3Nys&feature=youtu.be

le_snikelfritz · 1 points · Posted at 17:29:13 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Was expecting Mac & Me. I am disappoint.

Sanjispride · 17 points · Posted at 05:34:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Never leave mid credits. Have you learned nothing since Iron Man 1?

natedoggcata · 4 points · Posted at 04:26:23 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Most people are probably leaving cause there was nothing after the credits of Ultron

Sanjispride · 2 points · Posted at 05:48:54 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's just because Joss Whedon is a Jimmy.

Collier1505 · 3 points · Posted at 13:14:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I did this too. They turned lights on after the Wasp scene, so everyone figured it was time to go.

Sanjispride · 2 points · Posted at 16:32:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Never leave.

toxicbrew · 1 points · Posted at 19:31:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hang your head in shame.

transfusion · 1 points · Posted at 17:31:53 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did the same thing. Someone posted a link to that bit in this thread somewhere.

dtg108 · 1 points · Posted at 01:58:21 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

There was also a spiderman small reference in there.

JavaNewie · 1 points · Posted at 01:53:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hah. I went to see an 11:20am showing. There were three other people in the theater besides me.

I got up and left after the mid-credit sequence. I wasn't actually leaving, but wanted to hang out by the exit, catch the second scene, and leave. I saw the other three were leaving and I'm like "You know there's 2 end-credit scenes." And they ended up going back to their seats to watch it.

But fuck were those end-credits long. It felt like a three or four minute wait at least.

mancubuss · -1 points · Posted at 13:32:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I always wonder about people like you (no offense). You've seen marvel movies before, right? Were you dragged out by friends? Did you have to crap real bad? The guy next to me bolted after the mid credits scene and I was shocked.

Leockard · 4 points · Posted at 13:37:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, Ultron didn't have a post-credits scene and also the theater crew were literally staring at us to leave so they could clean the place.

Babushka5 · 141 points · Posted at 01:34:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The entire movie was, I felt, very well done. The story was obviously very simple, but the heist element was great and the fight scenes were beautiful, novel, and funny.

I really hope the success of the movie is attributed to Reed and people don't just credit Wright

ksaid1 · 11 points · Posted at 12:02:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It looks like there is a lot of crediting Wright. I've seen people talking about how the Michael Pena story scenes (where the people are mouthing his dialogue) seem like something straight out of Shaun of the Dead.

prophetofgreed · 13 points · Posted at 06:57:36 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Funny thing is, Reed revealed that was an idea between him and Adam McKay (director of Step Brothers and The Other Guys who helped rewrite the script with Paul Rudd)

Wright created a lot of the main story outline, and some features in the fight scenes.

tonybyatt · 74 points · Posted at 18:35:37 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

OK, I'll be honest...Ant-Man is better than Age of Ultron...there, I said it...

And that Spiderman reference was so casually dropped in there. You'd have to really be paying attention to that dialogue to catch it...

[deleted] · 23 points · Posted at 19:39:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

You're 100%. Age of Ultron was pretty good..Ant-Man was better.

[deleted] · 13 points · Posted at 22:07:11 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ant-Man is better than Age of Ultron...there, I said it...

Totally agree. I think it's because I knew and expected and accepted the tone Ant-Man was giving. Age of Ultron tried to be two different things, with the depressing personal defeats of all the characters along with the fast-paced quips and jokes of everyone. Even the evil cold hearted unfeeling robot.

You think your statement is controversial? I'll go ahead and say this: Most, if not all, the problems with Age of Ultron are due to Joss Whedon.

PartiesLikeIts1999 · 6 points · Posted at 01:39:10 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Winter Soldier, Ant-man, Guardians of the Galaxy.

That's my top 3 Marvel movies

Age of Ultron was just one of those films that said: "Hey, if you really wanna know what's going on go buy and watch ALLLLL OF OUR OTHER MOVIES ^{^{^and}} ^{^{^watch}} ^{^{^agents}} ^{^{^of}} ^{^{^SHIELD."}}

Not so great on it's own, at least with the first Avengers film you didn't necessarily HAVE to go watch all of the movies that released before it.

SillyNonsense · 2 points · Posted at 22:59:18 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

.Ant-Man is better than Age of Ultron

Yes it was. Clearly. Ultron was a mess.

freelancespy87 · 2 points · Posted at 06:05:05 on August 5, 2015 · (Permalink)

I disagree, but I definitely see where you are coming from.

I loved Ultron more because of how awesome Hawkeye was.

coffeeblack1203 · 1 points · Posted at 06:13:20 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

I caught it, but it didn't register as anything special in my mind until I started reading comments on this thread. I'm an idiot.

MrKapowy · 93 points · Posted at 02:59:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

When Michael Pena's character starts whistling "its a small world after all" when he enters the security room was a nice little easter egg in the movie

Koala_Guru · 7 points · Posted at 15:07:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can someone explain this to me? Is it because Ant Man can shrink or is there some larger connection?

novanleon · 19 points · Posted at 20:42:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's mostly just because Disney owns Marvel and it's a Marvel movie, hence the "It's a Small World After All" Disney-ride theme song. Also, Ant-Man shrinks, so "it's a small world" is like a double entendre.

xCHRISTIANx · 3 points · Posted at 06:08:26 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I also thought that the Marvel world is small. All these huge comic book heroes all operating under the same small world.

darklord2517 · 5 points · Posted at 00:46:41 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

also, he was specifically told not to whistle

djnicko · 494 points · Posted at 01:33:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Alright, three main points.

1) Fucking Michael Pena. He was the star of this film. He was the funniest he has ever been and he stole every scene he was in. Basically everything he said made me giggle. I’m so happy he was put in the MCU, but I know he won’t have any major roles outside of future Ant-Man films, so that is sad. Baskin-Robbins always finds out.

2) I know the popular thing to say about this film is that the villain is not well written, which is a common Marvel issue. That was my main problem with Guardians of the Galaxy, and same with Age of Ultron. I think Yellowjacket blew them both out of the way. He totally made sense to me and all of his actions. Darren Cross had been shit on by Hank Pym for decades. But before that, Hank was basically a mentor to Darren and most likely a friend. But fear of letting the Pym Particles get out, caused him to push everyone away and his daughter.

So it makes sense for Cross to feel betrayed, like the one man he trusted who knew this amazing secret would refuse to help out his student. Over years of testing he would of course resent Hank and get more and more angry. Add in the mind altering effects of all the testing, which is a bit more of a cop out, then yeah, all of his actions end of the movie make sense. Especially when Hank, after all this time, trusted his secret with what Darren could only see to be a criminal. Darren is a smart man and an almost equal with Hank, but Hank picked a thug over him.

So of course Darren would flip his shit over all this. It makes even more sense for Darren to attempt to kill Cassie, Scott’s daughter. Hank was like a father to Darren, and Hank replaced Darren with another son. So much like Scott helped ruin his family, Darren wanted to ruin Scott’s family. I think it was brilliant, and Corey Stoll did an excellent job there. Also, you know, the armor and lasers. They were cool too.

3) And finally, Evangeline Lilly was awkward in this movie. I know she was supposed to be pissed around her dad, but whenever they interacted, it didn’t feel that good. Chemistry or something was off, and since Douglas is a pretty damn seasoned actor, I want to assume she was the fault?

Either way, I fucking loved Ant-Man, and I don’t care who knows it. I was worried like everyone else about Wright’s departure, but it still succeeded my expectations. My full review on my website is here, because I am a self-promoter and some people just can’t help clicking those blue links.

the-great-radsby · 431 points · Posted at 02:34:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Michael Peña was freaking gold.

"You're in the system"

"The system?!"

"You in the SYSTEM"

^{^{^"THE}} ^{^{^SYSTEM!"}}

and T.I. was on point as well!

"I let you in."

"One could say I LET you let me in."

LiteraryBoner · 274 points · Posted at 03:08:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was mostly red wines, but you know I don't drink red wines, but there was this Rozay that saved the day!

the-great-radsby · 72 points · Posted at 03:31:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

LOUIS. FACTS.

[deleted] · 155 points · Posted at 06:10:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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Captain_Bob · 4 points · Posted at 16:34:29 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I feel like his accent in the movie definitely warrants the alternative spelling

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:55:16 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Raza

TheBoyWonder13 · 20 points · Posted at 05:49:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Let's not forget the hacker with the ridiculous Russian accent. His deadpan was on point.

the-great-radsby · 16 points · Posted at 09:43:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fun fact: That deadpan guy was in TDK, and he played Thomas Schiff, the neurotic crazy guy that Harvey Dent interrogates.

protomenfan200x · 5 points · Posted at 17:30:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

THAT'S where I knew him from! I kept thinking about it for the whole movie!

colourofinfinity · 17 points · Posted at 05:43:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The scenes where he was narrating his stories of his tips were fucking dynamite, he was hilarious throughout

"Daddy don't get scared"

wordlifetn97 · 8 points · Posted at 19:05:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Just back it up. Just keep backing it up."

Sparkvoltage · 3 points · Posted at 03:59:19 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wanted more TI scenes cause I loved his charm in Get Hard (all criticisms about that movie aside). His two or three lines were great but I definitely wanted more from him.

soulbreaker1418 · 3 points · Posted at 16:40:09 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

T.I was suprising as well, it really felt like a real character and not the person

IcedThatGuy · 210 points · Posted at 02:54:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I agree and disagree on Evangeline Lilly. I disliked her at the beginning and felt she was extremely out of place, and she just looked weird to me (and I loved Kate on LOST, so my bias is off) But, as the movie progressed, I understood her more and she came to fit in place with everyone else.

I think what I hated about her was that she was the typical aggressive, spiteful daughter, with seemingly no reason to be. Also that she was too good at using the tech. It just seemed like cheap writing. As did the "my father wasn't there" bit.

But the tipping point is the reveal of her mother's loss. That felt real. Her reaction, her pent up frustration let loose, and the reasoning behind her father never having been there. It all worked.

I'm okay with her now. The wig needs to go. It looks terrible on her, and that may have been the tipping point for me initially disliking her. But it was still a superb performance.

[deleted] · 33 points · Posted at 04:27:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

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IcedThatGuy · 5 points · Posted at 11:30:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Haha! "I didn't literally grow the wig on my head."

Very nice.

She wasn't bad. It was just the trope usage that bothered me. The movie had a ton of typical tropes at the outset that seemed typical, but then it exploded into uniqueness with their explanations.

gatsby365 · 13 points · Posted at 04:54:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The wig/bob was bothering me, until I remembered it is a pretty distinctive character trait.

If you're gonna have a Wasp, she's prolly gonna have a bob.

IcedThatGuy · 8 points · Posted at 11:25:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I get that! I figured that from the trailers. Its the classic Wasp look. It could have been shorter or something to make it look a little better on Evangeline lilly, ya know. It just didn't suit that actress, as good of a job as she did

gatsby365 · 6 points · Posted at 15:01:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was too thick, in my opinion.

Ajax-Rex · 5 points · Posted at 19:21:52 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was like she was wearing a furry helmet through most of the movie.

lovellama · 1 points · Posted at 17:10:21 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I agree, the bangs could have been wider so more of her face showed. But maybe they went the face hiding route as she was a double agent.

Alinosburns · 7 points · Posted at 09:22:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

. Also that she was too good at using the tech.

I think the idea though is that if you grew up in the house with a person who has that tech, Odd's are you knicked it a couple of times and played around with it.

IcedThatGuy · 1 points · Posted at 11:31:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Sure. That made sense.

I guess it was the 'angry, spiteful daughter' trope that bothered me. They fleshed it out and made all the pieces fit by the end. My gut, initial reaction was one of dislike, that's all I'm saying. I loved Ber by the end

InvalidZod · 5 points · Posted at 00:32:59 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

There is nothing wrong with hating her initially. For what we saw initially she WAS just the(probably intentional) whiny "my daddy didnt love me trope." Once we get to fleshing out(which was a scene she fucking NAILED) it makes her unique. Just because she started somewhere stupid, lame, and annoying doesnt mean she cant get somewhere acceptable.

IcedThatGuy · 2 points · Posted at 13:20:40 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I never said she couldn't go anywhere acceptable. It was the character's first impression that skewed the perceptions of her for me.

It's like how you meet a jackass at work, who's first impression on you is that of a jackass, and you look at the person through that filter during the subsequent interactions that follow. It is only when you push past that impression you experience and get to know the person behind it that you see the reasoning for the jackassery before. Then that person has far more capability to expand in your viewpoint and you are then allowed to get to know them in a more in-depth context. Does that make sense?

She was used, with intention, as the 'jealous, angry daughter' character, and, as with most exposition, the movie clearly and impressively defined the reasonings that caused those initial impressions, and after which her character became impressive as she progressed further.

My comments were always only to describe my experience as I passed through the movie from start to finish.

WadeK · 1 points · Posted at 14:22:09 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

The line, "It's bad enough you won't tell me how she died, but do you really have to keep telling that lie?" was where it hit me. Suddenly it's like... oh. That's why she's a bitch. Because she knows something is fishy about how her mother died, and knows that her father is lying and probably has called him out on it before. All she knows is that he's a liar and a terrible father and maybe she even suspects he had a hand in her mother's death - she doesn't know! Heck, she's been watching Cross torture animals for who knows how long, I wonder if she's ever looked at the glob of organic tissue and imagined her mother ending up like that as her father looks on, angry about some failed experiment.

It completely made sense why she resented Pym and why she couldn't trust Lang. She hasn't known anyone who's been interested in this technology who wasn't a sociopath.

djnicko · 24 points · Posted at 02:56:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I too really hated the wig. But I already felt weird calling out the one main actress in the film for being less than stellar, so I didn't want to also say I didn't like the way she looked, or else, you know, get labeled. /cough.

But the daughter was cute and awesome, so there is that!

Poonchow · 18 points · Posted at 04:53:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Cassie was adorable! I fell in love with that little girl when she looked at the birthday present and said, "It's so ugly... I LOVE IT!" and she sold it, man. That little gap tooth smile warmed my heart.

confused_chopstick · 2 points · Posted at 23:03:04 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh, that little girl was the best. Reminded me of Drew Barrymore in ET.

poondi · 4 points · Posted at 21:05:09 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The wig bothered the crap out of me. I know the bob makes sense, but theres a way to achieve the length without it being so blunt and clunky.

Vermilion · 7 points · Posted at 04:46:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think what I hated about her was that she was the typical aggressive, spiteful daughter, with seemingly no reason to be.

Bitter spiteful daughters don't need logical reasons. Any more than basement-dwelling nerds need to have abusive fathers. Freedom can lead to weird problems. There are plenty of examples in the real world.

This is described in many myth stories, such as the North American Iroquois where a perfectly fine pretty daughter becomes spiteful because she thinks she deserves better than average.

IcedThatGuy · 4 points · Posted at 11:27:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It wasn't the fact that she was that trope that bothered me, it was its use in the film as a tension builder, with no adequate reasoning, or barring that, a more unique take on the overused trope itself.

Thanks for the history lesson though.

pikeamus · 6 points · Posted at 09:08:02 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It bothered me a bit that she was great with the tech and was a complete bad ass martial artist. It didn't feel like there was a strong enough reason for her to be at professional fighter level skills.

Also, I hated the bit where she punched Scott in the face to demo pouncing technique. It's not funny, it doesn't prove you're a bad ass and it doesn't help anyone. It's dangerous abusive behavior and it feels like movies expect us to give it a pass because a woman is doing it. I felt similarly about Peggy shooting at Cap in his first film.

Jeanpuetz · 0 points · Posted at 23:41:17 on September 15, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know this is kind of an old thread, but I still want to comment.

It sounds like you, just like me, are also getting tired of this "badass woman warrior" trope, right? It's everywhere in the MCU. Off the top of my head, I can't recall a single movie or show in the MCU where we don't get it.

I mean, in general I'm all for female fighters. It's why I love the show Agent Carter so much. It's different from many super hero stories, where we most of the time have nothing but a white, good-looking male lead as the hero. It's nice to see badass female heroes, female fighters.

But it feels so overdone now because Marvel handles the situations the same way every single time. A man and a woman are either fighting and training and the movie wants you to believe that the man can easily beat her ass because, well - he's a man and she's a woman. But then, suddenly, the woman kicks his ass, either suckerpunch style (like here, in Ant-Man) or through intense Martial Arts training (Agent May in Agents of SHIELD, or Black Widow in Iron Man 2). By now, who actually expects the man to win in those scenarios anymore? When I see a scene like we had in Ant-Man just now (and in pretty much every other MCU movie), I immediatly know that the girl will kick the guys ass, and sometimes it just feels shoe-horned in for comedic effect. At least switch it up from time to time. Or make it a fair fight. Or make it somewhat realistic.

w41twh4t · 2 points · Posted at 16:20:50 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Also that she was too good at using the tech. It just seemed like cheap writing. As did the "my father wasn't there" bit.

She said the key was to focus and it is easy to believe she could project a determined will. I'd say it made perfect sense and was less forced than her being a great fighter who was going to teach Scott anything worthwhile in the short time they had to train.

IcedThatGuy · 3 points · Posted at 13:12:14 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

You are right. Her action scenes were.... a little 'out of nowhere'. I guess it is supposed to build her up for her next appearance in this series. But that didn't bother me as much as her out-right bitchiness in her initial scenes. But it works, in hindsight, as she as a deservedly large chip on her shoulder for anything pertaining to her father.

Babushka5 · 143 points · Posted at 01:38:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Corey stoll absolutely acted great. I hope he is somehow able to fight his way out of subatomic levels. He was so good at being slightly unhinged, but not joker crazy

djnicko · 74 points · Posted at 01:42:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I agree. And if they ever try to bring back mama-Wasp, then there is hope.

mastyrwerk · 100 points · Posted at 03:13:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

then there is hope

I saw what you did there.

Frankocean2 · 2 points · Posted at 22:31:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

You know, there's a reason that big ass hat hide her face.

mastyrwerk · 2 points · Posted at 22:39:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know, right? Who the hell keeps a picture of someone that you can't see their face in?

I mean, he picked it out of all the pictures of them, printed it, framed it, and put it up on the shelf so that when he looks at it, it reminds him of them, right? Who does that?

"My fondest memories are when I wasn't looking at her."

Frankocean2 · 4 points · Posted at 22:45:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"I love this picture of your mom".- "But, you can't see her face, dad".

"I know".

ksaid1 · 6 points · Posted at 11:56:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I saw someone in the /r/marvelstudios thread suggest that the reason they never showed Janet's face was because they might want her on Agent Carter some time.

Although I guess she wouldn't be Wasp, back then... hmm.

RedditIsAShitehole · 2 points · Posted at 14:13:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They deliberately left it open to bring back mama-Wasp when they showed the pic of Hank, her and child Hope. Most of her face was obscured by a big sun hat so any actress could be used at a later date.

I mean what kind of useless photographer takes a pic with half of someone's face obscured.

Taaaaaahz · 60 points · Posted at 03:11:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He went to subatomic levels? I was under the impression Scott messed with his helmet during his trip to the subatomic and that's why instead of just shrinking and shrinking, he became unstable without whatever the helmet did and why his limbs were twisting and he was screaming unlike Scott.

Deathsuxdontdie · 71 points · Posted at 06:40:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think all of him went to subatomic levels but not at the same time...

...he dead.

InvalidZod · 2 points · Posted at 00:29:03 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I am no expert on Pym particles or the Ant-Man suit but I assume there is dosage requirements for different sizes. I figured Scott just knocked out Yellowjacket's regulator causing him to go all wonky sizes in different limbs. Imagine if your arm suddenly shrunk, probably hurts like a motherfucker.

housethatjacobbuilt · 7 points · Posted at 04:03:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah I walked in expecting to really enjoy the movie but hate the villain. I guess I've always loved Corey Stoll but Cross was a surprise for me. I bought him the whole way through and his motivation was understandable and sympathetic. Also the two fight scenes between Yellow Jacket and Ant-Man were so well-filmed and fun to watch. I thought Darren was on the level of say Obadiah in the first Iron Man film or Red Skull in Cap the First Avenger, just a fun villain to watch.

krissyjump · 2 points · Posted at 03:14:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Honestly I've never been impressed by Corey Stoll in anything I've seen before but I thought he gave a surprisingly strong performance despite his character's relatively poor writing.

navjot94 · 1 points · Posted at 13:46:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He played an interesting character in House of Cards season 1.

zoethebitch · 1 points · Posted at 20:07:39 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

He plays Ernest Hemingway in Midnight In Paris. I don't know if a lot of his dialogue is lifted from Hemingway's writing, but he was absolutely the best part of the movie.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:08:15 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't think he went subatomic. I think he got crushed into a mess. Didn't you see the way his body shrank in different pieces? The guy is a bunch of hamburger in a suit now.

legendarybreed · 1 points · Posted at 04:16:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm not sure if he went to the quantum zone or w/e just like Scott, but they sure didn't close the book on the character by making him evaporate. Who knows maybe Thanos will bring him back in Infinity War along with the Red Skull.

sivirbot · 1 points · Posted at 20:22:58 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Didn't he burn to a crisp?

legendariusss · 59 points · Posted at 02:10:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

For me, part of why Yellow Jacket was so good as a villain, was because Id seen how Corey acted in house of cards and it almost felt like Cross and Russo were the same person. Quite unhinged

interp21 · 22 points · Posted at 03:45:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes! I found it funny when he zapped that guy named Frank and wiped his goo off the counter... Pete finally got his revenge on Frank.

angleeeat · 2 points · Posted at 12:36:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Corey you a busta

GreedE · 75 points · Posted at 02:06:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Michael Pena was the movie's MVP. Shame he was relegated to purely comic relief, the man has acting chops.

FedaykinII · 142 points · Posted at 02:55:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why is that a shame? No reason he needs to have a serious role in every movie he's in. He was hilarious

djnicko · 30 points · Posted at 03:03:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think the only shame in it (like I mentioned) is that we probably won't see him pop up in future Marvel movies until we get an Ant-Man 2 or something. I can't see them devoting enough just Ant-Man screen time in an ensemble flick to give his thieving crew a glance as well.

However, with the two part Infinity Wars movies, maybe!

SockPenguin · 10 points · Posted at 22:04:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I now desperately want to see Louis explaining how he got a tip about stealing an Infinity Stone.

VIsForVoltz2 · 15 points · Posted at 22:55:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

With him voicing Thanos? Fuckin' A.

svrtngr · 7 points · Posted at 13:25:33 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

So like, my cousin, right? We were at this modern dance recital and one of the fine women there works for this crazy blue guy. Anyway, this crazy blue guy...

TwelfthCycle · 10 points · Posted at 22:30:19 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

No man you have to sell it hard.

"So like my cousin and I, not not Juan, the one with the art gallery, ya the guy who works for the brother of Edward's father. Anyway we're at this opera, the good Italian kind with that classic flavor that really sells the performance for me, and even though the orchestra was off a bit the dancers were smokin. And I looked at my cousin and was like, "Man, that redhead is hot." and he was like, "ya dawg, you should talk me up to her." And you know I got my man's back like that if he ever needs help, so I go up to this girl and I'm like, "Hey girl you got those great legs, I'm tight with the Ant Man." And she was like, "Damn really? That dude who steals stuff?" And I was like, "Hell ya, what you got a good tip?" And she was all like, "Ya I know this stuff about this blue guy, I mean he's loaded and all but he's down to get this glove." And I was like "What?" And she was like, "Ya man, a glove with all these fine gems in it."

mr_popcorn · 5 points · Posted at 12:48:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If he becomes a fan favorite and there's demand for it, he could cross over to other properties like the TV shows or maybe his own one-shot even. I really hope Ant Man 2 happens though. Paul Rudd as Scott is just too damn fun.

prophetofgreed · 3 points · Posted at 06:43:38 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

To be fair Ant-Man's budget was only 130 million to produce with less advertising compared to Avengers so the chances of it flopping is particularly low.

And featuring Scott Lang in Civil War will only help Ant-Man's overall popularity.

rentonwong · 2 points · Posted at 16:23:00 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

They could make him work as a consultant or information broker for the Avengers staff or something. Same with TI and the other guy in the team.

cbnyc · 3 points · Posted at 05:43:50 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

He will show up! He knocks everyone out with one punch! new hero!

.... i can dream.

2th · 3 points · Posted at 05:41:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Purely comic relief? Guy was a fucking hero knocking people put and then saving that one dude. I loved Luiz.

BPsandman84 · 2 points · Posted at 07:07:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I've always been a fan of his. Dude needs some real starring roles where he really gets to show his chops. He's almost always the best part of the movie he's in.

LittleInfidel · 1 points · Posted at 16:11:29 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really hope these guys come back as SHIELD agents.

BournGamer · 38 points · Posted at 01:48:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

As someone who knew nothing about antman before the movie I just want to know where all the nonsense about it affecting his mind came from. It seemed made up when she mentioned it to him

deadlast · 81 points · Posted at 02:02:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's the reason Hank Pym couldn't wear the suit. He was too exposed to Pym particles and he'd go crazy. It was implied to be mind-affecting at some point earlier in the movie too.

Honestly, it was a (positive) twist for me that Hank Pym wasn't the villain. When he went crazy in the comic books for a while, his alias was Yellowjacket.

djnicko · 35 points · Posted at 02:06:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was happy to find that Wasp's disappearance wasn't due to just leaving him for (or dying from?) spousal abuse.

deadlast · 25 points · Posted at 02:13:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, Wasp getting lost in sub-atoma has a storied comic book background too

gatsby365 · 6 points · Posted at 04:55:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

o rly?

AgentDonut · 7 points · Posted at 05:52:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Spoilers --> Here.

InvalidZod · 3 points · Posted at 00:33:48 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Shit like this needs a rabbit hole warning

gatsby365 · 5 points · Posted at 04:55:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think there were some conclusions you could draw from Hank's temper.

randomsnark · 3 points · Posted at 05:33:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The movie definitely established that too much pym particles affects the brain, but I wonder if there was more to it than that in Pym's case. All he said was that he used to wear the suit and it took a toll on him. I think the last time he wore the suit was when he lost his wife.

TheGogginator · 2 points · Posted at 03:30:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did you not see the trailers? I'm a pretty big comic book guy, but Ant-Man is one of the characters I know little about. The first trailer they showed made it very clear Cross was the villain, and I was honestly a little disappointed that the movie didn't make it a little bit more convoluted than the trailer did. I guess it isn't that bad since one of the first scenes in the movie is in regards to Cross having the Yellow Jacket suit in possession, but I'd be lying if I said that the trailer didn't give anything away.

deadlast · -1 points · Posted at 03:35:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

One of the trailers really made it seem like Pym was the villain.

rentonwong · 1 points · Posted at 16:24:45 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

There were scenes showing Pym with medication and having strong emotions to a variety of things (when talking to Hope). Pym doesn't want to do it because it affected his mind and the loss of Wasp took him closer to the edge.

djnicko · 2 points · Posted at 01:51:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Honestly, I think it is made up for this movie. Definitely the weakest aspect of the bad guy character, and not as necessary to add on given the other bad things that has happened to him.

I just assume Pym used different chemicals, or he figured out the correct way much sooner so didn't have to spend many years testing duds.

deadlast · 6 points · Posted at 02:04:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, he's a genius scientist. But notice how he said, grimacing, that he couldn't wear the suit? Notice when he said the villain reminded him of himself too much?

FortuneCookie313 · 3 points · Posted at 02:49:10 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think he lied to hope. Hank beat Janet to death.

djnicko · 1 points · Posted at 02:57:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't remember that line, watched it a week and a half ago. But yeah, you're right!

Willop23 · 1 points · Posted at 17:40:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Maybe he couldn't wear the suit because it made him think too much about when Janet died?

AkaBBaka · 4 points · Posted at 08:15:55 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

In the comics the constant growing/shrinking definitely had an adverse affect on Pym. There was a while in the 90s when he was on the West Coast Avengers where he couldn't grow/shrink himself (but could still do it to objects) due to the damage it had done to his body (he played more of a scientific adventurer during that plot).

djnicko · 1 points · Posted at 10:10:49 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thanks for the information, AkaBBaka!

Alinosburns · 2 points · Posted at 09:25:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The problem of course with all that when Pym Mentioned it. It was that shrinking the brain caused changes to brain chemestry if you didn't have a helmet.

Of course Cross was already loco long before he shrunk his brain for the first time. And when he did, it was technically in a helmet as well. Argument could be made that it wasn't insulated correctly for shrinking. But he'd already sold the Yellowjacket to Hyrda at that point.

hubbledog · 1 points · Posted at 06:54:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh no, hank is a fucking nutjob

dens421 · 1 points · Posted at 07:53:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

In the comics Hank develops psych issues that are discovered to be linked to his use of the particules ... and in the 90's he had to stop using them on himself instead using an arsenal of shrunken weapons and he had on himself (to me the keychain was a callback to that too)

Damasticator · 1 points · Posted at 12:25:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

There was a scene where Hank Pym was talking about the Ant-Man helment being designed to shield from the effects of the particle, something that Darren Cross had not figured out yet.

prophetofgreed · 1 points · Posted at 06:42:11 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

In the comics too much exposure to Pym Particles does make someone go crazy. In fact it makes Hank go crazy in the comics, which makes him put on the Yellowjacket costume. (where he infamously smacks Janet)

It was a nice parallel nod to the comics with Cross becoming Yellowjacket.

Liam4242 · 1 points · Posted at 06:32:30 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

In the comics Pym goes insane from too much exposure to the particles which is why he said he couldn't wear the suit. Same thing was happening to Cross I guess

dannzo_29 · 18 points · Posted at 02:47:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, early reviews said it had the same Marvel villain problems, but I didn't agree at all. Great acting, and lot's of motivation.

chris2webby · 2 points · Posted at 02:50:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Baskin Robbins don't play

GoldandBlue · 2 points · Posted at 06:18:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I agree with a lot of what you said. Honestly, the story was pretty mediocre. But Pena, Rudd, Lilly, and Still really elevated what could have been a bad or forgettable movie into a pretty fun time.

I think Yellow Jackets look was great. The final fight was a lot of fun and he just looked so bad ass. To me it is a renter but Rudd and co are just so charming it is hard not to be sucked in.

blacbear · 2 points · Posted at 09:47:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I've been a fan of Michael Pena ever since he did end of watch.

djnicko · 1 points · Posted at 10:05:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Terrible trailer, amazing film. Seen it three times and cried each time.

relevant_mh_quote · 2 points · Posted at 15:43:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

In response to Evangeline Lilly, she's just a godawful actress, period. You ever seen LOST?

"Jack?! JACK!" "Kate? KATE!" Season after goddamn season

djnicko · 1 points · Posted at 16:01:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, I watched all of Lost. I think it was a lot more bearable there. And I don't know if she was terrible in The Hobbits, or her character was terrible. Well, yes her character was terrible, so I didn't know if I could blame her. And her character in Real Steel didn't have that much going on either.

relevant_mh_quote · 1 points · Posted at 16:24:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Personally I can't stand her. Absolutely atrocious actress, very non-believable acting.

daybreaker · 2 points · Posted at 04:05:23 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

And finally, Evangeline Lilly was awkward in this movie.

I've been rewatching Lost over the last few weeks, and am midway through season 5 already... I had forgotten how much I thought she was the worst part of that show.

FalconLorenzo · 2 points · Posted at 23:59:16 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Per your point #2, I understand and appreciate your points there. However, the problem I have is that we were simply told that all of this was the in case, instead of showing us. Felt cheap.

But, no, yeah. Way more important to have a fight scene with a B-list Avenger to establish that this really does exist in the MCU instead of making one perfectly self-contained super hero movie. If they swapped that scene out with some real character building for Cross I think this could have been my favorite superhero film ever.

Still, great movie and I admitted do like how Falcon, and then Cap/Falcon, set up Antman's presence in Civil War.

djnicko · 1 points · Posted at 00:08:32 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I didn't like to think about the fight as setting him up in the MCU (but you're right, that was probably the main reason). Instead I looked at it as giving Falcon some more screen time/love. After all, we have him as a super side character in 2 movies and probably won't ever play a huge role. Throwing him this bone makes him a more well known character and can hopefully increase his merchandise and film presence and yadda yadda.

This probably makes no sense, I've been up for a really long time. Sorry about typing mindlessly.

FalconLorenzo · 2 points · Posted at 09:03:38 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I genuinely appreciate your comment and the discourse! However, I (respectfully) fundamentally disagree with your opinion.

From where I'm sitting it's pretty obvious that they wanted to really make sure the audience knew this was an MCU film, since Rudd will be in at least Civil War. Apparently, the verbal references (a la Daredevil) weren't enough.

Marvel knew the scope and expectations of Ant Man, so they weren't trying to break the bank with the cameo. Anthony Mackie has to have one of the lowest rates out of the Avengers' actors. RDJ, SLJ, Evans, Hemsworth, ScarJo, Renner, Ruffalo all quite clear command a higher rate than Mackie.

Marvel was left with Falcon, Scarlet Witch, and Vision. Scarlet Witch very clearly wouldn't jive well with the tone of Ant Man. I'm not sure Vision does either, but it's less obvious. I guess they could have made that work, but I genuinely think Falcon hit the sweet spot between Salary and Fit (in order of importance).

I'm still at a loss as to why that scene was needed at all. They could have made one of the best superhero movies ever without that scene and including some more justification/time spent on Cross.

They already had subtly established that this took place in the MCU, along side Howard Stark, Peggy Carter, HYDRA, tongue-in-cheek references to the Avengers. This was a weirdly in-your-face "Look this is the Avengers' Mansion!" reference. Even the justification for it ( a weird device they, for some unexplained reasons "needed") and a brief scene of Wasp "inserting the device" could have been entirely removed without affecting the plot whatsoever.

It was a cool enough scene but it was super weird and the movie would have been better off without it. It was a cool enough movie on its own without that scene, and had some fundamental flaws with time available to be spent on the bad guy.

djnicko · 2 points · Posted at 15:15:42 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hey man, you are totally right though. Just to get that little bit more of a connection.

Although I think as strange as it was, it was at least still a cool fight. It let us see how he could go against someone else who has "powers" instead of just henchmen and the main bad guy.

Also you forgot about War Machine in your line up! D:

namesrhardtothinkof · 1 points · Posted at 08:04:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved how in this movie, all the thinly veiled hatred and threats were actually thinly veiled. Like they have a tense conversation in the house, then Russo calls Evangeline Lily and says "He still has nothing but contempt for me."

People were mostly low-key dicks, and when they were total assholes Michael Douglas just punched them in the face. I loved it.

versusgorilla · 1 points · Posted at 18:02:47 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Totally agree about the villain. People are really banging the "undeveloped villain" drum, but it seemed so obvious to me. They were partners and then Pym decided to trust no one with his discovery, even his most trusted associate and daughter weren't able to be trusted with the responsibility.

That hurts and drove him to create it for himself and obviously over the decades drove him to become greedy. Made sense to me.

PartiesLikeIts1999 · 1 points · Posted at 01:33:12 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

1

I can definitely agree with that, what really made me love this movie was how easily they could go from serious to funny and straight back into serious, things like this could NOT have been done without Michael Pena and the scale of the fighting grounds. Another thing that helped out pretty well was showing off how intelligent Scott Lang actually is, without that it would've felt like another 'Lovable Idiot' role, but instead we got a nice balance of the two.

2

I have to agree to this as well, I think it was Corey Stoll's performance that really made up for the lack of writing though. They had just enough backstory for him to take over and put in that instability into Darren Cross, just watching him go from on the edge to over the cliff was pretty good. I think a good example that he didn't hold back was during the conflict on the train tracks when he's about to be hit by Thomas, he lets out this really frightened yell as if he really believes he's about to die, only for Thomas to fall over and off the tracks. I feel like if any other actor had to tackle that part, if wouldn't have felt as authentic.

3

I may have to just go view it again, because I seemed to be paying more attention to everybody BUT Evangeline Lilly. I say this because the instead of what you saw, I saw that it came off as intentionally awkward. When Hope is interacting with Hank, it's gonna be awkward, it's supposed to be, Hank has shut her out for years, and she's resented him for it, she only came to him because Darren was so close to replicating the Pym Particle. They need to work together and she knows that, but she can't help but feel like she's been pushed away. The reason it comes off even more relatable from Hank is because Scott relates to Pym in the manner that he's a father, we're supposed to get more insight from how Hank feels than we get from Hope, so that we know what he's trying to tell Scott throughout the movie.

smiles134 · 1 points · Posted at 03:22:26 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes! Lily's character seemed really off, but none of my friends thought so.

djnicko · 1 points · Posted at 10:35:03 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Don't worry smiles134, we're friends now.

LittleInfidel · 1 points · Posted at 16:08:43 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really wish they had elaborated more on the effect the particles had on Cross. I would've sat through a longer movie to see the betrayal, and eventual distortion Cross experienced.

Betrayal is a really, really rough sell if you don't have time to develop the villain. It means nothing if the audience doesn't first like the two characters and their relationship. Those factors help the audience feel the sting of betrayal just as keenly as the villain and raises the stakes and tension for the audience. I mean, that's basically the driving force behind Civil War. For all its faults, it did betrayal well.

Betrayal can either make a relatable, great villain or a really cheap, crap one. Very little in-between.

Nurfy · 1 points · Posted at 01:52:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Perfect analysts. Agree with all your points.

djnicko · 3 points · Posted at 01:52:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thanks Nurfy. I don't care what other people say, you're a swell guy.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:06:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The training section dragged a bit, pacing slowed too much, almost fell asleep.

the-great-radsby · 3 points · Posted at 02:45:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's funny, I actually thought this was one of the fastest paced Marvel films I've seen. Heck,my only complaints in some parts were that certain scenes and developments felt a little rushed because the film was so fast-paced. Definitely didn't feel the two hour runtime.

Bigmethod · 0 points · Posted at 02:35:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Glad you enjoyed it. I didn't enjoy it too much. I like your points about the villain because i am one of those stupid people who hated the villain and just added him to the catalog of "every other edgy marvel villain that isn't loki or ultron, cause those two were just quip-filled stupid comedy villains".

I see what you mean, but the most we got from the backstory of cross and Pym was some pretty cliche "I was like your son! Why didn't you pick me!" "Cause i didn't like what you were turning out to be!" Etc etc... It was just cliche in my eyes, no? I mean we got a full blown flashback to that really oddly paced "mother dying" scene why couldn't we flesh out the villain a bit more?

Also, this movie felt extremely disjointed in placing characters in certain locations. Like that generic dad who's a cop guy? How come he was literally everywhere he needed to be every time he needed to be there? How did Cross know everything about Paul Rudd's daughter and his family, including where they live when it was implied paul rudd hasn't lived with them for AGES?

Also, the whole issue with mass. Why does him falling break the tile floor implying he's still as heavy as a human, but in other parts of the movie him standing on plastic tank engines and having a tank keychain be something that can shrink and grow bigger? Same with the goat?

Also how can he even hear stuff when he's that small? That isn't how sound waves work at all.

I felt like a lot of the dialogue was just based on occasion. Like, saying very vague shit instead of actually explaining stuff, which makes these scenes feel unbelievably stilted. "I was trying to protect you." Hank Pym tells his daughter after revealing how her mother died. FROM WHAT?! WHY?! HUH?! How would being honest with your daughter protect her when it was OBVIOUS she already knew you were lying?!

Again, i didn't like the movie due to its cliches and innumerable amount of nonsense logic that kind of took me out of it. Can you explain some of it as a fan, because maybe i just didn't pay attention enough?

djnicko · 6 points · Posted at 02:55:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, I most certainly cannot explain a lot of that. Bad science is bad science. But I would say all of the Marvel movies kind of throw science to the way side and exploit the shit out of it. Captain America frozen in ice and being fine? Everything about the Hulk? Crazy tech stuff in Iron Man? So, I would say minor science things would never get on my nerve, such as the sound wave point.

I would agree that parts of the film had pacing issues, especially early on. For example, the very first scene set in 1989 was kind of very awkward and almost cheesy. Like an old television show flash back. So the last thing this movie needed was /more/ flashbacks of him just being a dick to Darren if they can imply it enough, which I felt they did.

But yes. I mentioned the awkwardness between father and daughter. They were the worst scenes, including the strange death of the mom flash back. I just liked the other positives more than that one main negative.

As for Bobby Cannavale, who is in everything this year it feels like. When he arrested Lang for breaking in, it was because Hope called the police on them, so it makes sense for him to be there to arrest him. If you are a cop and know someone, you will probably have a keen interest on the case. I think your main complaint about him was being on the scene at the Pym labs party?

My main explanation was that he knew the big event was happening and that Pym had to be there. No warrant for Pym's arrest or anything, just vaguely knowing that he was involved maybe with Lang's disappearance, so he had to find him at a more public place. That's why they ran to catch up to him before he made it inside. Outside of that, Pym was a shut in that never left his place, so who knows where he would be.

Those are the best I got, and I did watch it about a week and a half ago so my memory is a bit fuzzy. Out of curiosity, how do you feel about other recent Marvel movies?

Bigmethod · -4 points · Posted at 03:46:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not only the arresting scene, how did he move from the blown up lab to finding Rudd and Villain fighting in some random house? Like, how did he go there so fast and locate them?

He was one of those severely oblivious characters. Nothing he did made logical sense. YOU JUST SAW A BUILDING BLOW UP AND THEN GET ABSORBED INTO THIN AIR, WHY DO YOU STILL GIVE A SHIT ABOUT RUDD STEALING STUFF. There are CLEARLY bigger stakes here and arresting him when he clearly saw a dude in a yellow suit destroying shit made no sense.

Honestly, there is no denying it, i'm not a Marvel fan for the same reason i'm not a Call of Duty fan. They're putting out the same game, or movie, in a slightly different package out MULTIPLE times a year. Characters seem to blend in, love interests seem to blend in, villains seem to blend in. Like, as much as i LOVE Paul Rudd, he could've easily been replaced. Chris pratt could've done that role the same exact way and i wouldn't have anything against it either.

I feel like they're really doing bottom of the barrel fan service with these movies now that their fanbase is big enough to give them billions. I mean they made this movie cost 120 million dollars less than the previous marvel flick just because they didn't have any massive names attached to it or didn't have reliable info backing it up.

The reason i'm against marvel as a franchise, even though its single hand-idly keeping the movie industry afloat (an industry i'm going to college to be a part of) is because they don't take risks. If something seems remotely not money-grubbing then they'll slash the budget and fire the people working on it.

I mean, just read why they sacked edgar wright who obviously would've made the movie better in countless ways, and instead hired a safe director i've never even heard of.

The reason i'm coming down on this movie harder than i usually do at marvels mediocrity is because we just got a big released R rated action film that turned out to a blockbuster hit (Mad Max). It was more expensive, a MUUUUUUUCH bigger risk, and it payed off!

I just wish marvel had the guts to do something even remotely as interesting. Here's hoping for deadpool...

As for recent marvel flicks. My favorite marvel movie has to be guardians of the galaxy or the second Captain America. GotG strayed away from marvels famous "quips per minute" joke style and actually worked well as a comedy movie. Captain America strived to tell a more interesting story apart from "Character thrust into X situation and succeeds at the end with no one except the villain being hurt".

I'll also admit that i'm hella immature when it comes to this kinda shit. I know i have to bite and do and LIVE nonsense like this if i ever make it into the film industry, as much as i don't want to. As much as i want to be the next Wes Anderson, Edgar Wright, etc. Sucking the audiences dick when it comes to pandering is the only thing keeping the film industry alive at the moment...

Thats also why i love Television way more. :p

SockPenguin · 2 points · Posted at 22:30:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The reason i'm against marvel as a franchise, even though its single hand-idly keeping the movie industry afloat (an industry i'm going to college to be a part of) is because they don't take risks

In the past 12 months we've had $100 million budget movies for Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant Man. Neither of these are big names to non-comic fans (and I don't think Guardians was even that popular among comic readers) and Chris Pratt and Paul Rudd aren't exactly huge box office draws. Even ignoring that everything Marvel attempted setting up Avengers/the MCU was a pretty big risk, two of their last three movies were by no means surefire bets. And there is definitely some risk to trying to run with yet another Spidey reboot so soon after the Amazing movies and characters like Dr. Strange that don't really fit with anything else that's happened in the MCU so far. Marvel has taken plenty of risks, they've just mostly paid off to this point.

Bigmethod · 1 points · Posted at 22:56:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If running a spiderman reboot is a risk in your eyes, then i don't know what to say man. Marvels name is a big enough draw at this point.

Also, Guardians had 70 million of its budget dedicated to advertising in general. Antman cost 130 million with around 50 going to adverts. that budget is NOTICEABLY smaller than every other comic book movie that's been released by them from the past 6 years.

The biggest risk they've taken was giving 110 mill to that first ironman movie. That is it. This is just talking about the cost of the movies too, lets not even get into the story elements.

All the movies are pretty much the same thing over and over again, with the same story beats and the same writing elements with the same characters that get 0 developments apart from a fucking love interest that is "always" interesting.

I'd like to see Marvel kill off one of its main characters, or do something unique with one of them that isn't "they like each other now" or "OH NO ARE THEY GONNA MAKE IT?! Well yes... we gotta sell those toys somehow".

djnicko · 0 points · Posted at 03:51:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm on phone now, so just a quick note.

That wasn't a random house. That was the cops actual house, where his wife (fiance?) and step daughter were living. The same one we were at two other times in the movie. He was running in to not arrest Scott, but to protect Cassie.

Cap2 is probably my favorite Marvel Film to this date as well.

Bigmethod · 1 points · Posted at 03:58:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The house with the black family is not a random house?

djnicko · 1 points · Posted at 10:10:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I honestly don't remember Cannavale at that house? I thought it was a quick pool fight thing, the briefcase destroyed, so Yellow Jacket flipped his shit, and then went to the cop's house to kill the daughter.

Bigmethod · 1 points · Posted at 16:21:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

No Antman was arrested and the only reason he ended up at his daughters house is because the police radio reported someone breaking in.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:02:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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SockPenguin · 3 points · Posted at 22:21:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

And the cops had been following the helicopter in their car, so them finding the house where an object falling from said copter landed is pretty easy to figure out/handwave away.

djnicko · 1 points · Posted at 10:15:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Again, I saw it a week and a half ago or so. But sure, the pool scene happened. But after the briefcase was destroyed and Scott supposedly won, Yellow Jacket left the house to go kill Scott's daughter? I don't remember Cannavale in the pool scene at all. :/

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 12:08:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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djnicko · 1 points · Posted at 12:12:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thank you for the response TheMeatball.

TacticalFox88 · 1265 points · Posted at 01:42:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Okay, I have to say, I did NOT see that after-credits scene coming.

My whole theater went wild when "The Winter Soldier" OST started to play and then that cut to Bucky....

Bruh.

Call the MCU stale and formulaic, but goddamn, you really can't replicate these kinds of moments. EVERYONE knew what was coming as soon as they heard the music.

I heard a kid say to his mom walking out of the theater "Mommy, can I dress as Ant-Man for Halloween?" Ant-Man. ANT-MAN for fucks sake. Kids these days are growing up with the superheroes I loved as a kid, but they were niche, but now Marvel has brought them to the mainstream.

What a time to be alive.

Fuck all you cynical assholes. Bring me more comic book goodness. It doesn't get much better than this.

danstu · 746 points · Posted at 02:25:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If you had told me ten years ago that Marvel would put out a movie that would turn Groot into a household name, I would have responded "Who the fuck is Groot?"

BlackFireXSamin · 686 points · Posted at 03:47:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I am Groot.

that_guy2010 · 51 points · Posted at 05:22:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

We are Groot.

StackLeeAdams · 13 points · Posted at 06:13:36 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I am Crying

pauljamez · 2 points · Posted at 02:34:51 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hodor

AkaBBaka · 3 points · Posted at 07:32:02 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I am Spartacus.

rentonwong · 2 points · Posted at 16:03:36 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

We are Groot!

Danton87 · 2 points · Posted at 18:52:45 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

We. Are. Groot.

transfusion · 2 points · Posted at 17:34:48 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

No, I am Groot.

obiwanspicoli · 2 points · Posted at 20:04:58 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

We are Groot.

andlight91 · 2 points · Posted at 00:29:47 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

U/iamgroot

the-greater-fool · 2 points · Posted at 21:46:15 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

We. Are. Groot.

HollandJim · 2 points · Posted at 22:35:04 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

+1. Well played.

TheWistfulWanderer · 2 points · Posted at 20:56:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh. Thanks for clearing that up. Hey Groot, would you be willing to do an AMA?

BlackFireXSamin · 2 points · Posted at 22:09:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I. Am. Groot.

BeardyMcTratorson · 2 points · Posted at 05:06:48 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

We are Groot

jpina33 · 2 points · Posted at 08:22:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

We are groot

samsaBEAR · 3 points · Posted at 23:27:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I've always loved him, but ten years ago people were kinda wary of Iron Man getting a film. I remember people being very upset that he got a film before Cap or Thor, let alone any of the less mainstream characters.

MrTittyFingers · 1 points · Posted at 04:40:40 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

WE are groot

SutterCane · 0 points · Posted at 20:00:48 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

If you told me the years ago that Marvel would make Ant-man and make me bummed out that an ant died, I would have said "What?"

Minifig81 · 349 points · Posted at 01:55:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I heard a kid say to his mom walking out of the theater "Mommy, can I dress as Ant-Man for Halloween?" Ant-Man. ANT-MAN for fucks sake. Kids these days are growing up with the superheroes I loved as a kid, but they were niche, but now Marvel has brought them to the mainstream. What a time to be alive.

Ain't that the truth.

I heard two REALLY cute ladies discussing who was better, Ant-Man or Captain, and the one I thought was cuter was like "Antman, he's smarter.." I was like "Shut up and fucking marry me."

TheGogginator · 46 points · Posted at 03:36:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I heard two REALLY cute ladies discussing who was better, Ant-Man or Captain, and the one I thought was cuter was like "Antman, he's smarter.." I was like "Shut up and fucking marry me."

I mean come on ladies, I look like The Blob and he's been associated with X-men before! /s

your_mind_aches · 24 points · Posted at 18:18:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's funny. Majority of guys I know are into this stuff but I know more girls that are as into MCU as I am than guys.

Elementium · 25 points · Posted at 03:46:36 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The MCU can't not do a movie that doesn't have aaaaabbbbbbs which is fine with me. Everyone deserves some eye candy. It's comics, perfect people are required.

your_mind_aches · -10 points · Posted at 05:17:02 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

what does that have to do with anything

Worthyness · 7 points · Posted at 06:33:56 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

It also helps that the MCU is pretty equal opportunity when it comes to eye candy. That and the super soldier training program that they get for their actors.

your_mind_aches · 1 points · Posted at 06:36:56 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't think them being into the MCU has anything to do with eye candy. I meant they certainly enjoy the eye candy but that's not why they're there...

elbenji · -5 points · Posted at 21:25:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'll give you about 24? Guesses

your_mind_aches · 1 points · Posted at 22:10:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What?

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 04:21:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Go on...

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 14:01:20 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Whad did she say after you proposed?

dannzo_29 · 135 points · Posted at 02:50:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Seriously man, some people rip on Marvel in this sub, but like you said, not only is this stuff good, it's the ONLY type of this stuff in the world, it's quite an achievement in the world of entertainment.

TheHandyman1 · 11 points · Posted at 06:56:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was never a comic book reader growing up,I'm still not, but it was the connectedness with the other movies and TV that has me catching every minute of MCU material I can get.

ForeverAgamer91 · 10 points · Posted at 01:23:26 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I remember getting excited when I first watched Thor and someone said "is that one of Starks?" about the giant sentinel just because they referenced a completely seperate film which was pretty unheard of, now everything's connected and even DC are doing it too now and I love it. I mean god damn pretty soon the Guardians of the galaxy will be meeting the Avengers and I absolutely can't wait to see how that goes down.

TheHandyman1 · 3 points · Posted at 01:45:32 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

See I didn't get into it til late 2013, watching Iron Man 3 on DVD and then rewatching The Avengers on DVD. I was like hey now I get it, checked out Agent of Shield, got caught up on all the movies and it's like I got aboard the train just in time!

ForeverAgamer91 · 1 points · Posted at 02:24:59 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fuuck Iron man 3 was in 2013, it doesn't feel anywhere near that long ago.

TheHandyman1 · 1 points · Posted at 02:43:41 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Time flies when Blink 182 has broken up twice and the first time was 10 years ago. Just wish I didn't have to wait 'til September 30th for more MCU stuff, but can't complain when so much is coming out.

raginwriter · 9 points · Posted at 08:18:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

We rip on people who say marvel films are amazing. They are fun no one denies them that.

elbenji · 10 points · Posted at 13:21:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Amazing is subjective though. For some, fight club was. Others thing Godard is. Others find movies that have them squeeing to be amazing.

So who cares?

raginwriter · -3 points · Posted at 17:00:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

let me bash marvel in peace.

breaking3po · 1 points · Posted at 13:04:11 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

They might not be amazin b movies, but some of them are amazing to see. It is amazing, that i saw ant man last night.

BritishHobo · -1 points · Posted at 16:08:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Let me stomp in all over your fun here and say I found Ant-Man dull as all hell.

bros_pm_me_ur_asspix · -1 points · Posted at 10:11:06 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

these movies are so extremely popular and mainstream though that ive decided to not watch any of them and wait until any of my extremely nerdy friends has them all on video and holds a marathon to watch all of them, its basically how i watched harry potter. also paying to watch 12 dollars for a movie sucks, i cant even count how many MCU movies are out there now so I guess its going to be a long marathon weekend when it finally happens

WadeK · 3 points · Posted at 13:45:36 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nothing wrong with wanting to marathon, or wait until the DVDs are out. But I will say that you're missing out on a LOT of stuff. Both because of time, as it's coming up on a decade since the first movie was released, and because the majority of these movies are an experience on the big screen. Guardians of the Galaxy is amazing no matter where you see it, but up on a movie theater screen where you can really appreciate the cinematography? Fucking perfection. Twelve bucks every six months isn't so bad.

Irishman318 · -2 points · Posted at 03:11:47 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Eh. It's the nature of our culture. We build things up only to tear them down when we're bored of them or otherwise spot flaws.

symon_says · -3 points · Posted at 02:52:33 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Uh, no, it's more like a bunch of people will like pretty much anything mediocre and some people aren't like that.

Irishman318 · 4 points · Posted at 02:59:34 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Then why was everyone singing Marvel's praises a few years back?

symon_says · -2 points · Posted at 03:11:30 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

People are still singing their praises! That's almost all I ever see on this subreddit, and then anyone who says they're bad movies with bad writing gets lambasted for caring too much or taking life too seriously. The movies are more popular than ever among even semi-critical people who would think they were shitty movies if it weren't for them appealing to nerdiness and having endless super hero battles.

I am so nauseated by generic super hero battles that I don't even care anymore. Watching them does nothing for me at this point, it's so overdone.

Irishman318 · 2 points · Posted at 03:24:36 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Bullshit!

The Anti-Marvel circlejerk has reached the level of the Pro-Marvel circlejerk at this point. It seems just as cool now to badmouth them as it is to praise them.

symon_says · -1 points · Posted at 04:46:09 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

lol, you must be on a different website.

My friend's immediate response to me reading this comment was "What anti-Marvel circlejerk?!"

Anaron · 0 points · Posted at 23:18:51 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

It seems to me that you're biased. You said yourself that you're "nauseated by generic super hero battles". I love the Marvel movies but I can say that not all of them are good. The Thor movies are really bad, for example.

symon_says · 1 points · Posted at 03:01:06 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

...biased? The movies have made me biased by making me literally tired of seeing super hero battles. It used to be cool, now it's just so overdone that I barely care.

Occams_Lazor_ · 3 points · Posted at 02:18:10 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Alternatively, some people get off on being critical to pretty much anything.

symon_says · -1 points · Posted at 02:41:21 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes, being critical towards the world around us is how we improve and strive for excellence as human beings. If something does not stand up to critical scrutiny, its failures merit discussion at the very least.

Occams_Lazor_ · 3 points · Posted at 03:17:11 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

At the oversight of what it did right?

symon_says · -2 points · Posted at 03:28:21 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not at all. I always compliment things for what they get right, but that doesn't overrule anything they may have done abysmally wrong. Compared to the larger context of films (or even greater of "storytelling" or "art" or whatever), there's very little good about the Marvel films aside from them looking pretty and having neat fight scenes.

Occams_Lazor_ · 4 points · Posted at 03:46:26 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well first of all, two of the major focuses of these types of films are looking awesome and having great fight scenes, which Ant-Man has in spades.

I would flat out disagree with the fact that the stories aren't attention grabbing. I feel captivated whenever I watch a Marvel movie, with very few exceptions, Iron Man 2 and Thor 2 being examples. They do lots of things right. The humor is always top notch, I've been to many comedies with less theater-wide laughs than standard Marvel movies. The acting is almost always good with exceptions being limited to the Thor line IMO, they have some good thought provoming themes (Cap 2's commentary on surveillance juxtaposed with Tony Stark's value of security, Banner's inner monster and his struggles with that, ), they have some touching, almost tear jerking scenes (Guardians of the Galaxy Scene with Peter's mother dying, then the callback at the climax, Rocket on his existence as a lab freak, We Are Groot).

But beside that, the movie isn't being made to stand up next to Citizen Kane. I believe some people just go into a movie trying to beat it instead of accepting it for what it is and what it was made to do and experiencing it more than analyzing it.

symon_says · -1 points · Posted at 04:39:06 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Almost everything they're trying to do they could do better. I'll agree the comedy is on point, but I find nothing about these "plots" captivating in any way. The villains are one note, the conflict is obvious, the solution is "punch/explode everything in sight," and the stories being told are stale and barely change from film to film. Even when dramatic things happen, I barely am sold on the emotions the characters are meant to be experiencing, and the drama is condensed into as few lines as possible to leave more room for more punches and explosions.

I'm fine with enjoying them for what they are, my problem is people often vastly overstating what they are. Granted, I fully recognize that if they tried to be more interesting films they wouldn't sell nearly as well, and that that's a problem with society and culture more than Marvel.

Gverreiro · 39 points · Posted at 02:27:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wait what ? I only saw Hope getting the suit

the-great-radsby · 87 points · Posted at 02:51:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

There was a second one at the very end of the credits with Cap, Falcon, and Bucky!

thatguyinconverse · 11 points · Posted at 04:48:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fuck. I left too early. Is it online somewhere?

mfranko88 · 29 points · Posted at 05:54:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If you want a recap:

Camera pans into a small room, loons like an unfinished basement somewhere. Falcon walks past the camera, says something to (cut to) Captain America. We also see Bucky sitting in a chair. Cap and Falcon have a brief conversation. The gist of the convo:

Falcon: We need somebody else in on this.

Cap: Who else could we get? We can't get Stark in on this.

Falcon: No not Stark. But I know a guy.

Cut to black. "Ant Man will return"

I'm sure the clip will surface soon.

idlestone · 23 points · Posted at 08:15:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Bucky's actually got his arm stuck on an industrial-sized clamp and he mouths "Help me". It kinda changes the whole dynamic instead of him just being sat on a chair with Cap and Falcon in a room.

xion385 · 8 points · Posted at 12:39:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did he mouth help me? I didn't notice. I thought he was just mean mugging Steve.

idlestone · 4 points · Posted at 12:55:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I saw some gifs subtitled with "Help me" and it kinda looked like he was saying it but then I rewatched the scene on Youtube and it kinda didn't so I'm actually not sure. :v

mr_popcorn · 5 points · Posted at 12:00:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

So I assume they captured TWS to reverse the brainwash yeah? Two questions: why didn't they wanna involve Tony and I'm assuming Falcon was alluding to Scott, what role is he going to have in getting Bucky back to normal?

[deleted] · 13 points · Posted at 12:28:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The brainwash was pretty much already gone from TWS. The fact that the arm was in a vice and they were deciding between two scientists tells me Hydra put some contingencies in the arm.

idlestone · 3 points · Posted at 12:58:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's actually quite an interesting theory. They didn't seem to be in an aggressive mood so I guess they weren't fighting (at least against each other, maybe against the arm).

Frankocean2 · 2 points · Posted at 00:57:50 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Cap looked dirty though.

ldnk · 3 points · Posted at 03:03:04 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

They didn't want to involve Tony because this is alluding to the Civil War where Cap and Stark are on opposing sides. I'm assuming that it might actually have something to do with the biotic arm and Lang showed himself to be adept with technology and Falcon would only really know him in the context of their fight at that point.

Zarocks136 · 1 points · Posted at 03:14:36 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Maybe Cap has gone underground because of Civil War?

naalty · 3 points · Posted at 09:02:35 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think its worth noting that cap says "this would have been much easier a week ago" which alludes to something like you suggested.

PabloNueve · 1 points · Posted at 20:24:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I believe Bucky was the one who assassinated Tony's parents.

idlestone · 4 points · Posted at 08:11:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Shame. Shame. Shame.

bigbluemofo · 3 points · Posted at 18:40:16 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

You may have seen it by now, but in case you haven't, here it is.

Thordane · 3 points · Posted at 16:31:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Captain Falcon movie confirmed!

mojomagic66 · 1 points · Posted at 03:36:09 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

What happened?

--Petrichor-- · 13 points · Posted at 02:52:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

There was a mid-credits scene (her getting the suit) and a post-credits scene.

Sn1pe · 1 points · Posted at 01:57:46 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

God fuck I missed it, too, and I know Marvel has made itself known to have mid/after credits scenes in their movies. I remember for other films, I've been lucky to have people who work at the theater to tell me if there is a scene or not. I'm now kicking myself underestimating this film to have an after one. Saw the mid, too, but now I've got to search for a vid or read comments like the replied to you.

colourofinfinity · 7 points · Posted at 05:44:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I can't believe I saw the day where the climatic fight scene of a movie took place in a seven year old girl's room for goodness sake, what a time to be alive indeed!

spoilersweetie · 2 points · Posted at 06:20:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Everyone except me and another couple had left by the time the second trailer played. 1/4 had left before the mid credits trailer then everyone else got up and left after that. :(

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 03:16:04 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I still can't get over the fact fucking GROOT is known by millions of people now. It's so awesome.

shaneo632 · 3 points · Posted at 13:44:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wish I was so easily pleased :(

BritishHobo · 1 points · Posted at 16:09:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

You and me both, pal.

hmhmh6532 · 1 points · Posted at 03:47:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I didn't catch that was Bucky there until now. Makes me feel stupid. :P

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 07:25:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

You are wonderful.

patssle · 1 points · Posted at 14:11:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

but now Marvel has brought them to the mainstream.

Just be cautious. Sci-fi in general use to be niche and back in the '90s and early to mid 2000s saw so many amazing sci-fi shows on television. Now sci-fi has gone mainstream and on television is mostly dead whereas it flourishes in the theatre where it can appeal to the mass audiences through action instead of story.

What I would give to return to a time when only "losers" watched Star Trek. But we had so much Star Trek and it was wonderful.

ObviouslySteve · 1 points · Posted at 17:15:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh wait, shit, I thought there'd only be one so I left after the scene in the middle. Guess I'll just have to see the movie again.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:26:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I peed after the movie and there was a herd of tumblr teen girls in the bathroom shrieking and crying literal tears over getting to see Bucky lol

your_mind_aches · 1 points · Posted at 18:17:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

You didn't see that coming?

invaderark12 · 1 points · Posted at 00:14:57 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I just looked up the list of upcoming hero movies. So many, and it makes me happy I was born in this time period.

And yeah, one time I was at the Disney store (yes I am a Disney geek) and they had an Ant-Man section. Oh thats not the big part. The big part is the little kid who came in with his mom and he started pulling her towards the Marvel section saying "Ant-Man! Look mommy, Ant-Man!"

I literally had to stop for a second and realize what I just heard.

Pvt_Hudson_ · 1 points · Posted at 04:23:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

My 6 year old kid made the same costume comment while we were walking out of the afternoon show today.

DC_Gooner · 1 points · Posted at 04:47:45 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's like the rest of the world is finally being exposed to the awesome (and sometimes niche) characters and stories that we've all enjoyed for years in the comics for decades.

They did an Ant-Man movie, and not only did they do it, but it kicked ass. People are learning about cosmic Marvel and goddamn ANT-MAN, and those characters are becoming mainstream.

prophetofgreed · 1 points · Posted at 06:35:04 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Microverse got featured in a movie before Wonder Woman or Flash. That to me is just mindblowing.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:54:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

it's seriously such a fucking dope experience every time and you just described it perfectly

ButchTheKitty · 1 points · Posted at 19:19:54 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Holy fuck, I consider myself a huge MCU fan and somehow my brain completely did not see that as Bucky... I knew I should know who he was, and I knew he was important but Holy fuck

namtrix · 1 points · Posted at 19:41:09 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wait there was an extra scene after the new wasp suit was unveiled?

ucancallmevicky · 1 points · Posted at 20:40:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

we are living in the golden age, enjoy

Turok1134 · 1 points · Posted at 21:27:36 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It is stale and formulaic, has been since Iron Man 1, but it's still entertaining enough.

thrillhouse3671 · 1 points · Posted at 22:00:23 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

What was so exciting about it?

I don't understand why it was so hype

samehsameh · 1 points · Posted at 22:16:56 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

WomAnt.

Thor_2099 · 1 points · Posted at 03:54:56 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Here here! Ten years ago an ant man movie was a pipe dream. Hell 5 years ago it was no guarantee. Yet here we are, it was good, fits this connected universe, and im stoked for the next film. I love seeing these characters and love where it is going.

Ollin1 · 1 points · Posted at 07:22:43 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

There was elderly couple behind me in the theater and when Hank says something about his Shield days the woman goes "Oh he used to work for shield" to her husband. All I can think was general audiences are talking about continuity at a comicbook level. I know it's been going on but it just blew my mind seeing an older couple doing it.

ihatetimetravel · 1 points · Posted at 12:44:14 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Little kid sitting behind me at the theater was so excited to watch the movie he would repeat some of the lines out loud (which did get mildly annoying after a while) but the one that had me cracking up was when the Wasp's suit was revealed in the mid credits and he yelled out "ANT-WOMAN!"

IronMan64 · 1 points · Posted at 23:47:10 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

What was the after credits scene? The one you're describing seems different to the one I saw.

Jblunt15 · 1 points · Posted at 02:12:07 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh man I missed the after credits scene! What happened?

shaneo632 · 1 points · Posted at 15:46:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

/r/cringe

BritishHobo · 1 points · Posted at 16:08:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fuck all you cynical assholes.

Steady on mate

MrRedorBlue · 0 points · Posted at 16:08:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Even when a Marvel movie isn't great, it's still pretty good.

WieblesRambles · 47 points · Posted at 02:17:24 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone else notice Michael Pena drinking white wine in his second "tip montage" - a direct callback to not liking red in the first one. Those two montages have kept me laughing too myself all day.

TeleAmeriCorp · 51 points · Posted at 03:28:21 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

the fact that he was such a wine and art snob was hilarious to me

rubyanjel · 7 points · Posted at 13:49:33 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

A waffle-munching wine and art snob at its finest

SovietBatman64 · 6 points · Posted at 13:33:37 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

They showed the direct influence of Edgar Wrights writing, and while great I think they would have been better if he did them

chlomyster · 6 points · Posted at 19:23:39 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

He didnt write those sections.

SovietBatman64 · 2 points · Posted at 20:20:37 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Really? That's surprising, they seem exactly like his fast paced small montage scenes in his previous films.

CollinsCouldveDucked · 1 points · Posted at 02:05:59 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

How would you know that? is the original script floating around?

chlomyster · 1 points · Posted at 03:40:58 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

There's a link to an interview about it in about ten different places on this thread.

CMVenom · 25 points · Posted at 07:06:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That digital de-aging on Michael Douglas is the best I've ever seen in a film.

Portgas · 5 points · Posted at 15:13:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yep, it was amazing. I didn't even think it was digital when I saw it.

ribblesquat · 22 points · Posted at 01:49:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I learned way too much about this movie ahead of time (couldn't help it) and still enjoyed the hell out of it. That says great things about its rewatchability.

zoethebitch · 1 points · Posted at 20:13:46 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

I had determined I wasn't going to see the movie and started reading this thread because I wasn't worried about spoilers. There were so many positive comments that I went and saw it this afternoon. So....... "I learned way too much about this movie ahead of time", but I enjoyed it very much nevertheless.

Also, JUDY GREER.

rbarton812 · 47 points · Posted at 15:21:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Maybe I'm reaching, but the computer graphic that Pym drew up showing AntMan having to drop into the chamber looked JUST like the graphic of the attack of the Death Star from Episode 4.

PenXSword · 10 points · Posted at 04:00:05 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

They also used the blaster sounds from Star Wars in the train battle. It was definitely intentional!

kenlubin · 3 points · Posted at 08:23:42 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I had the same impression.

DatPiff916 · 4 points · Posted at 06:21:45 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Damn I thought Scott was gonna reference that in some way, like I thought we were trying to infiltrate a base, not destroy the Death Star

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:56:27 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

You might not be too far off. Every film in Phase 2 (Iron Man 3 through Ant-Man) have had someone losing a hand to reference Empire Strikes Back. TV shows as well.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 06:13:31 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Where did someone lose a hand in Antman?

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 06:20:04 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

When Cross was shrinking at the end, the first thing to go was one of his arms. Blink and you miss it.

ghostingreality1001 · 42 points · Posted at 10:23:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Marvel Cinematic Universe film number 12. To date this is the most personal/(small) story in the MCU. Going to be seeing Ant Man at least two more times.

Yellowjacket probably is not dead just stuck in the Quantum realm or microverse. The tiny glimpse of the microverse was more incredible than I could have imagined. I am very curious to see how much interaction Dr. Strange will have with reality at the Quantum level. Among the other bizarre places he will explore.

Loved seeing an older Peggy Carter and Howard Stark. Also I was amazed by the younger Hank Pym.

Darren Cross selling stuff to Hydra made me chuckle. I thought of course he would contact them just to upset Hank Pym even more.

The Ants. Not being a comic book reader I had no clue how awesome the ants in this film would be. Plus was anyone else horrified when the one Ant got super big? Imagine that happening to thousands or hundreds of thousands of ants. Kind of cool how cassie kept the one as a pet.

The prototype Wasp suit looked really cool. I wonder how long it will be before we get to see Hope wear it and work alongside Scott in the Ant Man suit. Civil War seems already full to the brim with characters so I am not holding my breath for a Wasp appearance in the main body of the film. A mid or post credit scene where she suddenly gets big, maybe.

I could write more but overall I was very impressed with the film and additional scenes. Got to love the way Marvel continues building their cinematic universe. Next up Phase Three begins with Captain America: Civil War in May of 2016 and then Dr. Strange in November 2016. In the meantime let's enjoy season 3 of Agents Of Shield, Jessica Jones on Netflix, season 2 of Agent Carter, and Daredevil season 2.

[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 20:32:31 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I would count Yellowjack as super fuckin' dead. The way his body shifted seemed to me as if the suit was shrinking, and not his actual body. Along with his horrific screams it looked like he was crushed, which might be the most brutal death in the MCU movies to date

ghostingreality1001 · 5 points · Posted at 20:51:20 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Upon watching Ant-Man a third time I agree that Yellowjacket is dead. I think the guy Darren Cross kills in the bathroom is the most brutal MCU death so far.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 21:13:29 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was pretty fucked up too. Well, he got something at least sufficiently brutal as payback.

ghostingreality1001 · 2 points · Posted at 09:10:46 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

True. Though I would have liked to see Darren get the treatment he gave to the first successful sheep he shrunk. Being flicked over and over.

Anaron · 1 points · Posted at 23:42:45 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

Definitely. I've never cringed at a movie death before. His death had my squirming in my seat like a fucking human-sized earthworm.

homeboi808 · 93 points · Posted at 01:33:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Saw it in IMAX 3D, the 3D post-conversion was really well done, I can't vouch for regular 3D.

Love that Rudd's character never let things get overly cheesy.
Loved the tank.
Loved the enlarged Thomas the Train and ant.
Michael Peña's character was great, and his stories!
Darren Cross' character was well written and well acted.
Good opening flashback, and the others too.
Great cameos.
Well done product placement, except for the Lifesavers.
RIP Antony 😭.
Nice little Spider-Man reference (Anna Akana's character saying "We got a guy that climbs walls").

It's more of a great movie that is about superpower/superheroes, rather than a "superhero movie" like GotG (which Inloced also).

BlackFireXSamin · 6 points · Posted at 02:01:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I thought this movie handled product placement really well. It gave a really good feel for reference and measure for what might've gotten dizzying or unsatisfying during the action scenes.

Edit: Better wording.

black-ra1n54 · 2 points · Posted at 06:33:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I showed up late (the beginning of the scene where pym punches cross in the face and they're like, "You're suppose to be in russia.") What did I miss?

homeboi808 · 3 points · Posted at 12:27:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Instead of being in Russia, he found out that they had his formula, which pissed him off. The guy also talked about Pym's dead wife.

black-ra1n54 · 2 points · Posted at 14:17:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I meant the flashback. I think I totally missed that part.

homeboi808 · 3 points · Posted at 14:26:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

You mean the very beginning of the movie where he assaults the SHIELD guy, or when he punches Cross, which is like 60% into the movie?

black-ra1n54 · 3 points · Posted at 20:25:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think I caught it all if it starts off with the same scene of when pym punching the guy in the face for mentioning his dead wife

homeboi808 · 3 points · Posted at 21:53:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, he was supposed to be in Russia, but he found out SHIELD was trying to use his formula.

jrhop364 · 2 points · Posted at 13:59:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

When were life savers in this movie?

homeboi808 · 2 points · Posted at 14:01:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

In the briefcase, along with of course the iPhone.

jrhop364 · 2 points · Posted at 14:15:09 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I recogonized the smart phone, but i don't even remember the Lifesavers haha.

prophetofgreed · 1 points · Posted at 07:00:46 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

lol, you can see a green lifesaver get blown up by Yellowjacket's lazer.

Dr_Disaster · 2 points · Posted at 20:13:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I saw it in standard 3D and anything involving Scott in the suit looked great. The last act was especially good looking.

blackwhitetiger · 1 points · Posted at 02:36:20 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Imax 3D was honestly amazing.

SillyNonsense · 1 points · Posted at 23:01:59 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

Regular 3d looked good, too. Lately I dont spring for 3d often but I thought with all the strange perspective changes in this movie it would be neat. Totally worth it.

SpurBandit · 219 points · Posted at 01:37:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I've never been on shrooms, but damn I'm tempted to start now just to go subatomic and trip hella balls

Also, this is the first movie since Gravity I would say that seeing it 3D actually added to the experience. Not a must, but if you can I would recommend seeing it that way.

[deleted] · 15 points · Posted at 06:07:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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Carnivorous_C-3PO · 23 points · Posted at 11:24:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I got that feeling too; That scene lasted longer than expected, so I was pleasantly surprised. I was so pulled into that and hypnotised like in 2001, if it lasted as long as the wormhole scene i would have been very satisfied.

On a sidenote: I'm a Bit disappointed to not see much discussion of the subatomic scene in here, but maybe most people here are just more superhero fans than sci-fi, to each their own, because as soon as "going subatomic" was said when Scott was fiddling with the button I was greatly hoping we would see that visualized. To me that was one of the best, if not THE best scene (Literally jaw-dropping).

prophetofgreed · 3 points · Posted at 06:19:31 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm shocked that it even happened. THE MICROVERSE IN A MOVIE! (sadly Fox has the rights to the name 'Microverse' )

HauschkasFoot · 2 points · Posted at 04:56:24 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was my favorite scene too. Super cool.

paranoidbillionaire · 4 points · Posted at 19:11:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Completely agree! We drove an hour east to see it in an IMAX and the 3D really leant itself to the miniaturization effects. When he first shrank down into the bathtub and the axis shifted around him, it was mind blowing. Totally worth seeing it in 3D and I do not say that lightly.

alexaledger · 6 points · Posted at 03:57:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I agree, I thought it was one of the best 3D movies I've seen. I was also high when I watched it, so it took a little time for my brain to adjust... But once I got used to it, it was fun times all round.

AnyHoleIsTheGoal · 3 points · Posted at 04:53:32 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just saw it on acid, i would definitely recommend it.

AtomicShane · 3 points · Posted at 14:55:07 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

*DMT

mfranko88 · 2 points · Posted at 06:38:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was surprised by how much was added by 3D.

In retrospect it shouldn't have been that surprising, since so much of the movie deals with scale and relative location.

your_mind_aches · 2 points · Posted at 18:13:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I feel the exact same way. 3D really added to the experience.

sirmeowmix · 2 points · Posted at 15:09:52 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wouldn't say mushrooms. You get a different vibe and trip.

If anything, it reminded me of a DMT trip.

edwartica · 1 points · Posted at 23:02:31 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, I wasn't planning on seeing it in 3D, but I just happened to be only able to go at a time that it was in 3D - and I'm kind of glad I did.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:31:50 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

Damn, you're right.. Watched it in 2D T_T

jwjmaster · -5 points · Posted at 17:59:30 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Both of those movies are post 3D. See a real 3D movie if want to be impressed

SpurBandit · 3 points · Posted at 19:46:07 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know 3D conversion in post has a stigma, but I was just saying that the experience was enhanced for me personally by the 3D this time around. I wouldn't say its required viewing by any means, but its what I would recommend to those usually apprehensive to the format.

jwjmaster · -3 points · Posted at 01:04:25 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I just wish they wouldn't bill it as the same. I don't want to pay the extra 3.50 for fake 3d.

entertainman · 2 points · Posted at 06:33:26 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

the people who make 3D movies on reddit are constantly saying the fake stuff looks better. the 3d camera technology isnt there and is too finicky to get right. half the time "real" 3d movies end up getting thrown out and the just use one of the lenses and post-convert

aandkh · 2 points · Posted at 19:23:56 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not to mention a fair amount of the movie takes place in vibrant, trippy animated viewpoints that flourish in 3D. Guy is being pretentious.

entertainman · 1 points · Posted at 22:23:57 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Right? All the best parts are synthetic anyway.

aandkh · 1 points · Posted at 19:20:38 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

You do realize that a lot of the action sets in the movie are done on computers, right? I can assure you, that was all real 3D. The ant-sized view of the world is one of the best reasons TO see a 3D movie. Most worth it since Gravity, I agree.

jwjmaster · 1 points · Posted at 20:35:57 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Of course. I don't care for the randomly this is 3d this is not from scene to scene. I much prefer it all 3d. Not to mention the last 3d movie I've seen the screens weren't even right so it looked blurry with or without the glasses. Not worth $4 if it's only 3d a quarter of the time in my opinion.

aandkh · 1 points · Posted at 22:19:52 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, it is 3D all the time. Just converted in post in the non cg scenes. I know you already know this, but it is 3D. You couldn't take your glasses off and watch it regularly. But you pay for the whole 3D experience, which the cg fight scenes are the clear highlight of. We don't demand to pay 30% ticket price at an amusement park just because we spent 30% of the time at attractions.

jwjmaster · 1 points · Posted at 01:08:56 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

I admit it's been a while since I've seen a post 3D movie.

But, there have been times of 30 minutes or more where I could have taken my glasses off because they didn't do anything with the second camera. I don't want to pay for that. The gimmick of having things jump at you gets old after the second time.

AH_BLUEFACE · 117 points · Posted at 02:02:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Spider-man references at the end were great. My entire theater cheered after that.

chris2webby · 8 points · Posted at 02:39:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I honestly didn't catch on to it. I don't think my theatre did either!

[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 04:19:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

How did you not catch the

"We got a guy who jumps, a guy who swings and crawls on walls"

chris2webby · 3 points · Posted at 13:03:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

oh, I heard that part! But I just didn't connect it to Spiderman for some reason!

black-ra1n54 · 4 points · Posted at 06:08:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

My favorite parts was his stories, the fight with falcon, the cool Stan Lee cameo, and that spider-man reference. that was awesome.

[deleted] · 129 points · Posted at 02:16:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really, really liked this movie. I know many are burnt out on MCU comedy but I thought it was done really well here. It was consistently funny but there weren't really any scenes that should have been tense that were ruined by a snarky one-liner, they left room for some drama.

Loved Michael Douglas as Pym. I was worried the movie would be all about Scott and he'd be more of a background character. Not the case.

The villain was probably the weakest part but I still liked him okay. Not the best but nowhere close to Malekith-tier.

Definitely would recommend. Fun little heist movie with arguably the most creative action scenes in the MCU. They really made the most of Ant-Man's unique powers.

black-ra1n54 · 10 points · Posted at 06:02:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah. They kind of made you assume he tested the suit on himself.

"The suit messes with your brain matter". and then later in the movie he's crazy...er I guess...

If they would've had a scene where it works and he's flying it around, and another scene where Hope busts into the house to say he has been wearing the suit and practicing constantly day and night., it would've made it a little better.

ScaredycatMatt · 5 points · Posted at 22:39:46 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know many are burnt out on MCU comedy but I thought it was done really well here.

I wouldn't say I'm burnt out on the comedy, just the Joss Whedon style of comedy. I love it in Ant-Man, GOTG, Iron Man, etc.

Whedon's is just terrible.

Pollonius · 5 points · Posted at 03:54:15 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Whedon's comedy isn't terrible, just passe.

snafu26 · 3 points · Posted at 22:33:37 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The vilian reminded me of Lex Luther.

Sponge34 · 52 points · Posted at 09:11:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That opening scene had some of the most impressive makeup I've ever seen - not only did they make a 70-year-old man look 45, they made a 33-year-old woman look late 60's. So a guy who's actually 37 years older than a woman looked twenty years younger than her.

IIGe0II · 10 points · Posted at 23:18:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

CGI, my friend.

Transfinite_Entropy · 4 points · Posted at 20:38:40 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was actually $20,000 a minute CGI!

your_mind_aches · 3 points · Posted at 18:22:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The makeup was just freaking amazing. Now to just wait 30 years and see if Hayley really looks like that at that age!

sliktuc · 5 points · Posted at 17:10:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Being in the opening scene, these make-up jobs (especially Pym's) had the chance to make or break the believability of the movie from the outset, but they really did nail it.

Makes you wonder if they could pull an andy serkis, and make that work for a whole prequel Hank Pym film. [And really, beyond that, it makes you wonder if the age of an actor will stop mattering altogether].

Danton87 · 1 points · Posted at 17:36:46 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Some of that fine, expensive CG!

thedolaon · 17 points · Posted at 04:17:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Damn fucking good!! Especially the Falcon vs AntMan scenes and the final battle!!! Loved it!! Hope to see Hope in action very soon!!

This was a good addtition to the canon!! I loved the immediate tie in to the previous movie!!

They mentioned Spiderman it seemed with 'swinger' mention.

So good!!

If Scott remembers then we'll see him go big in the next film or so!!

mid and end credit scenes were sick!

Yellow5StuffInDrinks · 18 points · Posted at 04:36:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Holy shit did this movie exceed my expectations! Seriously one of the most fun MCU films next to Guardians.

blackwhitetiger · 1 points · Posted at 02:35:30 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's funny, I loved this but hated Guardians.

jasonppp · 17 points · Posted at 21:00:28 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The battles are epic then look like nothing when the camera zooms out. Hilarious.

neoblackdragon · 8 points · Posted at 22:13:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really enjoyed that and went with the whole theme of not saving the world but saving those close to you. After Age of Ultron, it's easy to forget the little things.

GamingTatertot · 8 points · Posted at 21:44:43 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The suitcase was probably my favorite.

jasonppp · 1 points · Posted at 21:51:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Same here.

apocalypsenowandthen · 65 points · Posted at 09:26:09 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Scott: "I'm going to disintegrate you."

Siri: "Playing Disintegration by The Cure".

Goddamn, that briefcase scene killed me.

VIsForVoltz2 · 26 points · Posted at 09:02:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not scott, yellowjacket.

nonprehension · 3 points · Posted at 06:10:30 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, that was fantastic.

DigitalMocking · 18 points · Posted at 05:45:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm not an ant-man fan, I've never liked the character.

That aside, this movie was fantastic. I'd put it right up with Guardians of the Galaxy.

Yes, there were a few flaws, but the tone and humor were fantastic, the fight scenes were amazingly well done and Paul Rudd has some fantastic 'one liner' timing.

I was amazed at how much I enjoyed the movie, I'm honestly amazed the rottentomatoes and metacritic scores are so low. I think this is a blockbuster.

[deleted] · 97 points · Posted at 01:56:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I thought it was okay, but that final act was amazing. When Scott went subatomic that was just amazing to experience in 3D. I can't imagine it in IMAX.

homeboi808 · 34 points · Posted at 02:30:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Saw it in IMAX 3D, it was really cool!

wheels29 · 3 points · Posted at 07:15:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

While I was watching it, my only thought was "Oh fuck, what's in this soda".

deathcab4booty · 2 points · Posted at 04:45:59 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I saw it in IMAX. It was unreal.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:05:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Better. Marvel weighs in on string theory. CONFIRMED

wbright92 · 1 points · Posted at 21:13:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was pretty fucking trippy in IMAX. I loved it.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:06:07 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hi, I watched it in iMax.

Does the phrase "tripping balls" give you an idea?

sugar_free_haribo · 162 points · Posted at 02:07:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Never expected a perfectly executed 2001 homage at the climax of freaking Ant-Man

mastyrwerk · 12 points · Posted at 03:38:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Seriously! It looked great in 3D!

misplaced_my_pants · 8 points · Posted at 06:15:23 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't think it was an homage.

I think it's just the visual effect you're going to always see when you shrink someone down for a long time.

sugar_free_haribo · 3 points · Posted at 07:37:59 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Eh im sure it was on their mind when they createdthat scene even if it was inevitable

misplaced_my_pants · -2 points · Posted at 09:07:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't see why it would be other than the coincidental resemblance.

It's a completely different form of travel.

sugar_free_haribo · 7 points · Posted at 14:11:19 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Peyton Reed explicitly says he drew inspiration from 2001:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/ant-man-director-talks-the-quantum-realm-avengers-cameos-sequel-potential

misplaced_my_pants · 1 points · Posted at 19:53:48 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Huh. Weird.

sugar_free_haribo · -2 points · Posted at 19:56:27 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not weird at all. Obvious. You almost can't have a more overt reference to a classic film than that.

misplaced_my_pants · -2 points · Posted at 20:23:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

But it is weird. It's a completely different form of travel. There's really no need to reference that movie.

A more obvious reference was in Interstellar.

bobloblaws_lawbomb · 3 points · Posted at 04:37:45 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

The form of travel doesn't matter. It's how change is interpreted visually. It was a pretty obvious 2001 homage.

misplaced_my_pants · -3 points · Posted at 21:39:54 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Except it's a form of travel that always looks like this. The change always looks like this.

And he only said he borrowed "a little" from 2001 as inspiration. An homage is a more intentional thing that's often more explicit. It's not like Interstellar, which you could more convincingly argue was an homage.

wtfsystem · -2 points · Posted at 03:15:24 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Calm down girls, you're both pretty.

SIMULATIONTERMINATED · 3 points · Posted at 06:20:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Are you referring to when Lang went sub atomic? Gah that was awesome.

prophetofgreed · 7 points · Posted at 06:21:21 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Still can't believe that the Microverse was featured in a movie before Wonder Woman or Flash...

S_Goodman · 4 points · Posted at 18:08:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can you explain please what the homage was?

sugar_free_haribo · 15 points · Posted at 18:20:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Ant-man going subatomic mirrors one of the most famous scenes in movie history from 2001: A Space Odyssey where the protagonist is shown the infinity of the cosmic (rather than the quantum) universe through a bombardment of intense colors and patterns.

StackLeeAdams · 2 points · Posted at 06:22:46 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

here's a portion of the scene from 2001. It does get weirder.

ClarkZuckerberg · 2 points · Posted at 10:16:31 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

They definitely went full 2001/Interstellar there at the end

gwydapllew · 1 points · Posted at 06:57:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I said the same thing.

BrennanBr · 1 points · Posted at 02:24:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I noticed that too! It was so damn trippy

theReluctantHipster · 1 points · Posted at 18:23:44 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Right? It went from Hot Fuzz to 2001 in a matter of minutes.

Elementlegen · 14 points · Posted at 06:52:36 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

When Scott is working for Baskin-Robbins, his name tag says 'Jack' and he asks 'Darby' to take over for this idiot. Jack and Darby are the names of Paul Rudd's children, nice Easter egg :)

iamthegraham · 15 points · Posted at 21:35:19 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I would watch another movie that's just Luis telling stories.

sydnboy · 16 points · Posted at 00:31:51 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I like it. It was humorous and entertaining. I thought it's better than Avengers 2..

raofblow290 · 5 points · Posted at 21:57:39 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Avengers 2? It was also better than the first Avengers in my opinion

should not have posted my opinion though, people just downvote opinions around here

tgjm27 · 430 points · Posted at 02:33:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Glad to see another "emotionally unavailable career woman" haircut in a summer blockbuster.

EquityDiversity · 247 points · Posted at 06:49:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Wasp was totally rocking the bob-cut around Civil War in the comics. I find it kind of fitting.

[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 11:31:54 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Wasp's costume even in the kid's cartoon was a huge 80's throwback. It makes sense to have her with a hair style that was popular then, too.

deathsquaddesign · 43 points · Posted at 06:07:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

No muss, no fuss, just ice cold career oriented bangs.

topherthepest · 176 points · Posted at 04:15:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

At least she wasn't running in high heels.

MurderousPaper · 13 points · Posted at 06:35:41 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

At least she wasn't running away from a T-Rex in high heels.

FTFY

[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 21:20:57 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

And at least she wasn't Bryce Dallas Howard

[deleted] · 34 points · Posted at 13:37:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I just call that haircut "boner inducing"

Sadsharks · -11 points · Posted at 00:12:39 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

"boner reducing"

FTFY

pm_your_tatas_please · 20 points · Posted at 02:52:48 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Different strokes for different folks.

SmokeyTheBear420 · 27 points · Posted at 06:14:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

why is this shit being upvoted? It's literally the exact haircut wasp has in the comics

Alinosburns · 31 points · Posted at 09:36:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well the problem with your argument here is that the Bob is a character identifier of The Wasp.

The point isn't meant to be "emotionally Unavailable Career Woman"

Wiffernubbin · 4 points · Posted at 15:55:41 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm incredibly attracted to that haircut.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 06:58:47 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

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chlomyster · 24 points · Posted at 23:24:29 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

You may have face blindness and color blindness

NormalNormalNormal · 1 points · Posted at 00:53:57 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

They look pretty similar and I'm not too familiar with either (only knew Bryce Dallas Howard from Jurassic World and didn't know the actress in Ant-Man).

domdunc · 2 points · Posted at 16:04:25 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

i did too! take away the hair and their faces are damn similar.

LittleInfidel · 1 points · Posted at 16:13:47 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

To be fair, that's always been her look.

PixelMagic · -2 points · Posted at 13:25:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What is with that haircut? Why has it become a thing? It's awful.

legochemgrad · 44 points · Posted at 15:00:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's the haircut for the original Wasp.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 01:10:24 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, at least this time she was emotionally believable.

Mercpool87 · 28 points · Posted at 03:40:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Loved Paul Rudd as Ant-man. He brought a whole new dynamic to a hero in the MCU. Most of the heroes are, uhh, hero material "save the world n'at," but Rudd brings an everyman ex-con becoming a hero and how it is from his perspective.

Micheal Pena was pretty great and I was shocked by T.I. appearing and he actually exceeded my expectations when I first saw him.

Loved all of Thomas the Tank Engine's scenes. Glad to see a HUGE portion of my childhood on the big screen especially in a Marvel movie.

FUCKING WINTER SOLDIER IS FOUND!!! YES!!!! CIVIL WAR HYPE!!!

8.5/10; 9.5 with WS post credit scene.

black-ra1n54 · 3 points · Posted at 06:40:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

When the first trailer dropped, I shrugged and said it doesn't look that good. The second one came out and I said ok, it's marvel, I gotta see it because it will help.

But man, Rudd really did do a good job. Can't wait for some quick witt stuff with him, the new spidey, and Iron Man. Looks like it will be fun

BVTheEpic · 3 points · Posted at 04:07:30 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

8.5/10; 9.5 with WS post credit scene.

10/10 with ~~Wright~~ rice.

Flexappeal · 2 points · Posted at 02:26:32 on August 5, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was shocked by T.I. appearing and he actually exceeded my expectations when I first saw him.

TI is like low key really fucking funny, he gets bit parts in a lot of 'ok' flicks but he's like..really good. has such a funny voice and good timing

ChrisJTW97 · 15 points · Posted at 12:39:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Man I lost it when Thomas burst through the side of the house

I need that in GIF form

OutspokenHindude · 13 points · Posted at 04:16:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Paul Rudd was phenomenal in the movie. He saved it in a bunch of places where it could've gotten formulaic and sappy.

Like the scene where Hope and Pym were getting emotional, and Scott bursts in with "That, was awesome."

That being said, I was skeptical at first about the movie but it was way better than I expected.

So fucking hyped for Civil War now.

TopHatSasquatch · 47 points · Posted at 01:39:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

This movie was so well balanced. I liked Age of Ultron but this ways so much more fun. Also, first Spider-man reference in the MCU!

natzo · 3 points · Posted at 06:23:58 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

"And besides, they are probably busy dropping cities out of the sky."

PraisedBeHelix · 11 points · Posted at 11:28:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

This definitely felt like 'Iron Man', and I mean that in the best possible way. There were a lot of things I thought were great about this movie, but Michael Douglas as Hank Pym was so awesome. Hank Pym is probably my favorite character in the Marvel universe, and Douglas did such a great job.

GizmosArrow · 12 points · Posted at 16:15:58 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I had a lot of fun, but can anyone explain one thing to me. I didn't even catch it. It was my younger brother. When Ant-Man was riding the ants through the water pipe, and he came to the point where he was supposed to get off, how the hell did the ants get in there to form a rope for him to climb up to? My brother's like, "Hey, if those ants can get in there no problem to help him in, can't he just get in the way they came?"

Lazerkatz · 10 points · Posted at 20:48:56 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Could have just separated from the group and crawled up into the pipe by going up the walls of the pipe.

GizmosArrow · 2 points · Posted at 23:58:01 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Good call. I could believe that.

reebee7 · 2 points · Posted at 04:34:35 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

If you can accept he's controlling ants with his mind, you can believe anything, I say.

lenkellui · 3 points · Posted at 19:11:20 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought the idea was that the security systems would scan for humans at every entrance except the water main, meaning the ants could get in however they wanted but Ant Man had to go through the pipe

FFTorres · 2 points · Posted at 08:04:17 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's... A really good point.

protomenfan200x · 44 points · Posted at 02:49:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Never in my life did I think I would ever say the words, "Thomas the Tank Engine was the best part of the movie!"

Furoan · 2 points · Posted at 14:04:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why do you find Thomas surprising? Thomas is awesome!(if a dark and creepy series...)

Ninjaboi333 · 50 points · Posted at 15:25:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Saw this last night - I'd consider this in the upper half of all MCU movies so far.

Random thoughts

I like how this is a movie about parenthood, specifically about fathers and daughters, with the parallel between Scott and Cassie, and Hank and Hope. I think it added a sense of humanity and relatability to these characters. Very similar to what was done with Hawkeye in Age of Ultron. The big hitters of the Avengers fight because they have the training and they are essentially superhuman (even Stark who is super intelligent). Scott is an every-man (granted an every-man with a masters in Electrical Engineering) who happens upon this world, but stays around for his daughter.
I like the cinematography tricks used to go between the ant and human sized sequences - notably the bathroom scene when he first shrinks, and the briefcase scene. The editing of Luis's narration was also excellent and a real highlight.
Pursuant to the above, the comedic timing of the epic fights taking place on the small scale, juxtaposed against how quiet they really were on the human scale (as we saw in the trailer) really worked for me. Same goes for blowing things up later on (especially the tank - good use of Chekov's gun there - also it apparently showed up during the footage)
Speaking of Luis/Michael Pena - I'm kinda sad that we won't likely see him in another non Ant-man film, because he's a real treat. Goofy sidekick friend, but he has loads more to him - he enjoys fine art and fine wine, and he apparently is semi-super human - if he's the guy who can always OHKO someone, maybe that's a power? Fingers crossed.
I don't think the action in this movie (with the exception of the Falcon fight) was particularly exceptional - not that it was bad. Just that the heist elements (especially utilizing many kinds of ants, the planning with the three wombats, etc) were so much stronger. If Guardians was a space opera, Cap1 was a historical war piece, Cap2 was a spy thriller, Thor was a fantasy epic, this was a heist. Makes me excited for what other genres Marvel takes on.
If there was a weak point I think it was Hope and Hank's acting - there wasn't much chemistry between the two in my eyes. That said, I'm still super pumped to see the Wasp join the Avengers - did not see that coming at all. Maybe Cassandra Lang will become Stature at some point?
Again, not the strongest hero. But I'd argue that aside from Loki he's probably the second strongest villain - he has a clear motivation (get Hank's approval) that maybe wasn't as strongly shown as much as it was told us.
Pacing wise, Overall I think that it did a good job. Laughs throughout, but not that they would overpower you (similar to Guardians). The action and fighting wasn't pointless or drawn out. There were weak spots such as the training montage, and with how quickly Hope/Hank make up or how Hope and Scott fall for each other.

Other small things (mostly Easter Eggs)

Was kinda cool seeing Anna Akana in a Marvel movie - I was like whoa did not expect to see you in here. Also first Spiderman reference!
Cool seeing the original actors for Howard and Peggy in the first scene.
Disney continues to show how they are spreading their arms, with Luis whistling "It's a Small World" and Yellowjacket's suit making Star Wars noises
The Phase 2 homage to Star Wars continues with a character losing an arm. Here it was Yellowjacket
The Microverse scene was hella trippy. Kinda deus ex for him to come back like that, but I guess it works within the film's themes. Chance we'll see reference to this in the Doctor Strange movie, and maybe a return of the original Wasp then, if that's where she's been all this ime?
The Tales to Astonish reference got a laugh out of me
Hail Hydra! Also apparently in the footage of Hank as Ant-Man you see a clip with the Ten Rings logo, and one of the buyers has a Ten Rings tattoo on his neck. Ten Rings to appear in Doctor Strange would be my guess.

VIsForVoltz2 · 14 points · Posted at 23:25:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

How was getting out of the microverse a deus ex? They established what the grow discs did earlier on in the movie and right before he shrunk, established Scott knew how the stabilizer worked with him messing with it before learning about the microverse, established he was an electrical engineer (a really good one) a bunch, I'm not seeing the deus ex here.

Ninjaboi333 · 7 points · Posted at 17:24:11 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

More of Deus Ex in a Iron Man "let me synthesize a new element in under 24 hours that we've established to probably save me, but seems like a long shot if anything" way

micahc · 3 points · Posted at 23:02:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Antony lost an appendage as well. His wing.

sum1rand0m · 3 points · Posted at 21:04:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

This might be a stretch but you sound like you're from the bay area. One thing I was proud of the Ant-Man movie was it took place in the bay area. My random thought lol.

Ninjaboi333 · 1 points · Posted at 17:24:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wish I was from the bay

Netwinn · 1 points · Posted at 04:28:14 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't think the action in this movie (with the exception of the Falcon fight) was particularly exceptional - not that it was bad. Just that the heist elements (especially utilizing many kinds of ants, the planning with the three wombats, etc) were so much stronger. If Guardians was a space opera, Cap1 was a historical war piece, Cap2 was a spy thriller, Thor was a fantasy epic, this was a heist. Makes me excited for what other genres Marvel takes on.

I agree with this 100%, very well put!

jrf_1973 · 1 points · Posted at 11:46:28 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ten Rings

Well, they appeared in Iron Man, but the Mandarin storyline was kind of messed up.

homeboi808 · 0 points · Posted at 15:50:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Was surprised with Akana's cameo as well, like KassemG in Transformers: AoE.

BenjaminTalam · 50 points · Posted at 02:45:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

This is the most comic booky Marvel movie yet. Love it.

GruffMcScruff · 2 points · Posted at 21:45:33 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Even moreso than Guardians?

chewapchich · 11 points · Posted at 06:54:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

"That's a messed-up looking dog!"

Also, I like how they managed to make creatures as terrifying as ants look so cute! I was so sad when one of them died, RIP Anthony :(

[deleted] · 22 points · Posted at 23:42:29 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I honestly think that this movie deserves higher ratings, it was really good

raofblow290 · 2 points · Posted at 21:59:33 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

this x a million. If you look at its rotten tomatoes score, it got an 80%, I feel this movie is definitely a 90% movie, and at least you can see that with the audience score on rotten tomatoes. I definitely go by audience score now as opposed to the official tomato meter rating

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 22:41:28 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's REALLY good - there were a few kind of weird scenes, like when Hope controlled the ants and they came down from the chandelier (there were a few really quick jumps camera-wise or something to that effect, it seemed pretty awkward in the moment) or when Hank gets shot and it's kind of like "Oh no I'm hurt aaaah" but the humor was damn on point, the action shots were great, Corey Stoll is phenomenal as Darren Cross, the ending was solved really smartly IMO, it was just all around a great film

lllMONKEYlll · 1 points · Posted at 09:31:33 on July 30, 2015 · (Permalink)

Mee too.

I_am_BEOWULF · 20 points · Posted at 02:17:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did anybody else interpret those moving psychedelic shapes while Scott was in the sub-atomic universe as probably tesseracts? Not the MCU cosmic cube Tesseract, but their interpretation of a 4D tesseract.

Dallywack3r · 7 points · Posted at 06:28:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

We all saw Interstellar too.

namesrhardtothinkof · 2 points · Posted at 08:16:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

OH SHIIIT ASGARD IS POWERED BY REVERSE PYM PARTICLE AFFLICTED UNIVERSE BUILDING BLOCK SQUARE THINGS

kangawu · 1 points · Posted at 00:13:15 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Time gem?

[deleted] · 10 points · Posted at 23:36:45 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm a little late to the party, but I have to say that I really liked Darren Cross as a villain.

Sure, you could see him as just a crazy guy with too much power, but the performance was subtle and the triangular relationship between him, Pym, and Lang was really well executed.

I honestly preferred him to the over-acting of both Loki and Ultron in the Avengers films.

dacalpha · 7 points · Posted at 05:51:30 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I honestly preferred him to the over-acting of both Loki and Ultron in the Avengers films.

I think Thunderbolt Ross in the Edward Norton Hulk really did it for me as far as villains go. You're right that Loki and Ultron were overacted and generally just over-the-top, but I felt that Cross wasn't evil for any tangible reason. Like, I get his motivation to sell the Yellow Jacket, but why was he such a dick? I wish he had had more of a personal connection to Lang, though him seizing Cassie was good too.

Vlinux · 2 points · Posted at 03:23:03 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Part of Cross being a jerk was that he'd been working with the Pym particle stuff without protection. Pym mentioned that if you used the suit and messed with the juice stuff without the protective helmet, it would start affecting your brain.

abnerayag · 2 points · Posted at 14:41:51 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

i thought he wouldve made an equally badass menacing lex luthor

abbaecedarian · 1 points · Posted at 00:28:27 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

You can see Stoll just seize his chance to make an impression with the role.

GamingTatertot · 20 points · Posted at 01:32:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Completely forgot it's Thursday. Can't wait to see this tomorrow.

Question: Did anyone here see it in 3D? If so, how was it? Because I'm being forced to see it in 3D and judging from the previews it seems like it might be quite a spectacle in 3D.

homeboi808 · 18 points · Posted at 01:34:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Saw it in IMAX 3D, the 3D was really well done, I can't vouch for regular 3D as they are different.

TravT0uchdwn · 2 points · Posted at 02:41:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I just saw it in IMAX and I'm going to see it 3d tomorrow Edit: Just watched the 3d version, it still looks pretty good.

GamingTatertot · 1 points · Posted at 01:35:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I honestly don't know which I'm seeing but I think it might be IMAX.

homeboi808 · 2 points · Posted at 01:38:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Since he gets tiny in the movie, seeing it in IMAX would be better.

GamingTatertot · 1 points · Posted at 01:41:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I assumed so

I_am_BEOWULF · 0 points · Posted at 02:14:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Saw it in regular 3D. Meh.

SpurBandit · 9 points · Posted at 01:41:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The 3D was really well done! I would actually recommend it in that format. Without spoiling anything there are some key moments in the movie that definitely are enhanced by it.

homeboi808 · 3 points · Posted at 01:43:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did you see it in regular 3D or IMAX 3D? I saw it in IMAX 3D and it was great too. I'm just wondering so that I can recommend to my friends who don't want to pay for IMAX whether to see it in 2D or 3D.

SpurBandit · 3 points · Posted at 01:47:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Regular 3D. I generally hate the standard stuff but I was surprised how well done it was!

homeboi808 · 2 points · Posted at 01:49:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thanks.

TheFancyPenguin · 2 points · Posted at 02:12:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I saw it in IMAX 3D and i agree. The 3D was really well done in this movie

GamingTatertot · 2 points · Posted at 01:42:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm assuming these key moments involve when Scott is shrunk down?

SpurBandit · 5 points · Posted at 01:50:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Definitely, some other stuff along the way too but you get a real sense of depth and space.

GamingTatertot · 2 points · Posted at 01:52:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Awesome to hear!

Misinglink15 · 1 points · Posted at 03:08:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

3d was great, seeing Scot flying around on the ants was really entertaining.

ZeGoldMedal · 1 points · Posted at 04:42:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I've been forced to see a lot of movies in 3d recently (well, I work at a movie theater, and get free movies, and those are the emptier showings). A lot of movies have very lackluster 3d, but it definitely added something in Antman. I recommend it

chewapchich · 17 points · Posted at 06:47:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Am I the only one who noticed a tardigrade for a brief moment during the subatomic sequence?

fanboytl28 · 3 points · Posted at 16:08:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nah I saw that too!! I like cheered a little when I saw it! I love them!! :3

Mijder · 3 points · Posted at 03:44:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nope, a woman sitting next to me squeed over it.

9me123 · 2 points · Posted at 02:33:56 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nope.

nicholas_cage_mage · 9 points · Posted at 12:17:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really liked how the story of Scott was relatively small (hehe) scale. No billionaire, genius, playboy philanthropist. No huge godly grandeur. No threats of global devastation. The movie seemed like a much more personal affair. I really cared about Scott's story, and the Pym family backstory was awesome too. All in all, a great stand alone marvel film. Thoroughly enjoyed every second of it. 8.5/10

cayal3 · 8 points · Posted at 00:03:50 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone else think, despite the character being a bit weak, Corey Stoll had a presence as Darren Cross?

Fooliomcskippy · 6 points · Posted at 08:57:38 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

He's absolutely one of Marvel's better villains. He was acted very well, and also had one of the more brutal deaths of all them that I can remember.

And for the people thinking he could return, he didn't get shrunken to subatomic sizes, he was sucked into his suits' reactor micro-implosion, which is kind of like having your whole body sucked through an inch wide hole.

rocky1003 · 4 points · Posted at 14:00:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm still traumatized after that Bathroom scene. It happened so quick and out of know where...I thought it was a tazer at first!

neoblackdragon · 2 points · Posted at 22:27:47 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hey if they want they could say he wasn't. Right now I consider him dead but if they want him to return, I won't complain.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:18:17 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

He's in that same ambiguous realm as Red Skull and Ultron.

[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 03:16:57 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The key chain tank was deep fried gold.

Also, I can't believe I felt compassion for a flying ant. You done did good, Marvel. You done did good.

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 03:29:05 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ant-Tony!!!! Nooooooooooooo

Mastercheese274 · 9 points · Posted at 15:04:27 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Throughout the movie you could kind of feel the bones of Edgar Wright's stuff but that scene with the baskin robbins manager really came off as his style of writing. The dialogue was so dry and snappy, I loved it. I knew I was going to like the movie after that.

GamingTatertot · 7 points · Posted at 15:30:10 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Pena's narration also came off as Wright's style.

locke_5 · 5 points · Posted at 23:21:58 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

IIRC those narrations were not in Wright's original script.

GamingTatertot · 3 points · Posted at 00:09:39 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

They weren't. Which leads me to believe that McKay and them, knowing that people were upset over Wright leaving, wrote in some stuff in his style...or maybe that's just a dumb theory.

neoblackdragon · 1 points · Posted at 01:10:22 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well you got this script written in a certain style. You are going to try to maintain it.

scrognog_gutentag · 1 points · Posted at 17:36:10 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why does it seem that a large number of people in this thread claim to know what was in Wright's original script and what wasn't? Was it released/leaked??

Mastercheese274 · 3 points · Posted at 16:42:10 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I agree is was the perfect mix of dialogue that pushed the plot along while still giving us characterization

ChillWilliam · 10 points · Posted at 20:56:09 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't know about anyone else, but I was pretty glad to see Avon Barksdale got out of jail, moved to San Francisco and turned his life around.

neoblackdragon · 10 points · Posted at 22:30:35 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

This felt like Iron Man one but on the other spectrum(a good thing). Scott isn't a rich man. He's got normal people problems.

Loved intro. When Fury was talking about superheroes in Iron Man. We all assumed you know Hulk and Captain America. Who knows how many heroes were active between TFA(hell maybe even prior) and Iron Man. The Avengers as we know it may have even been the D Roster when Fury couldn't get Ant man and others.

Also love Falcons bit. Was pissed at his lack of role in AOU.

[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 02:16:49 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I want to give some love to that quantum realm sequence that totally blew my mind. Some Interstellar level shit right there. I hope stuff happens there in future films

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:26:14 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Some ~~Interstellar~~ 2001 A Space Odyssey level shit right there.

FTFY

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:28:03 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I've actually yet to see this so I couldn't make that connection!

[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 22:34:51 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Fair enough. That final scene of Interstellar was heavily inspired by Kubrick's film. Or ripped-off depending on who you ask.

Edit: And whoever downvoted me probably falls in the former camp.

DeeBased · 1 points · Posted at 23:36:14 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ant-Man 2: The Search for ~~Spock~~ Janet Van Dyne

MrHeavySilence · 9 points · Posted at 09:15:07 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was waiting for Ant Man to pull the fucking Giant Man card out when he was fighting Yellow Jacket.

BigTaker · 4 points · Posted at 00:52:27 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Saving that for Infinity War.

scrognog_gutentag · 3 points · Posted at 17:15:46 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

There was an interesting point Yellow Jacket/Cross made about how much easier Scott would have been to hit if he were bigger. I think that's one of the neat benefits of being small is that you disorient your enemy and prevent them from being able to hit you even if they do see you. They also made a point about how the Yellow Jacket suit was outfitted with lasers to increase accuracy, which I'm sure is necessary in micro-combat.

Lambchops_Legion · 30 points · Posted at 01:36:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Bobby Cannavale is wasted as a side character. He should've been a main villain in a marvel movie.

molemon · 7 points · Posted at 01:49:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I always loved him on Boardwalk Empire

Blaculahunter · 3 points · Posted at 10:01:00 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I liked that he wasn't really a cliche. He wasn't particularly a douche or anything. He was doing his job, and Scott was a con. Being a cop he has seen this hard luck cases ruin their family's lives and so on.

LexLuthor2012 · 3 points · Posted at 02:10:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

~~Didn't he get away with the fuel? Seems like they want to bring him back~~

becauseican95 · 3 points · Posted at 03:04:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He's talking about the stepdad, not the evil flashback dude

GamingTatertot · 1 points · Posted at 01:39:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Which would've suited him well because I don't think I've ever seen a movie where Cannavale isn't an asshole or villain.

Lambchops_Legion · 10 points · Posted at 02:18:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Go watch The Station Agent

QuickAgISTheFlash · 2 points · Posted at 04:37:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved him on Will & Grace.

[deleted] · 14 points · Posted at 09:03:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

So how many people were in everyones showings? My theater was practically dead. Really disheartening, hope this makes money because it really was fantastic. Hope we get an Ant-Man 2!

aces08 · 7 points · Posted at 14:50:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Mine was about 80% full. Hopefully word of mouth will get people to go watch it. Vast majority of people seem to have enjoyed it.

homeboi808 · 5 points · Posted at 12:36:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I went to a large IMAX 3D theater at a popular theater in the Tampa Bay Area, I got there a 1/2 hour early and the ticket guy said only 1/4 of the tickets were bought so far, but when the movie started, the theater was packed.

blackwhitetiger · 1 points · Posted at 02:37:13 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Which theatre did you go to?

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 02:58:40 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

AMC Veterans 24.

blackwhitetiger · 1 points · Posted at 03:04:13 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ok, that's where I went tonight. I would say it was maybe 1/4th to a 1/3rd full. On a different note, even though it was a Digital IMAX I thought that was an amazing auditorium. It was a very immersive experience.

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 03:10:11 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

When I went to the Thur. 7pm showing, it was ~80%-90% full, it's probably not packed tonight due to the large amounts of showings.

The IMAX screen is about 35ft tall and is more curved, so it does offer more immersion. However, it has nothing on MOSI. I saw Interstellar on opening Thur. night (it actually opened Wed. night but I couldn't make it), the theater is 10,500 sq ft (one of the largest in the world), I sat in the same row and 3 seats away from the projector (in the center of the seating), it literally filled 95% of my vision. When looking dead center, I could only make out a few inches past the screen.

blackwhitetiger · 1 points · Posted at 03:16:00 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I saw Avatar in the MOSI IMAX, so I definitely agree with you that the MOSI IMAX offers the best immersion hands down. My only issue with the MOSI IMAX is that for full length movies, I tend to completely miss characters on the screen sometimes, so I become confused with what is happening. I have a place in my heart for the MOSI IMAX though, I love the absolute feeling of motion that it gives.

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 03:24:45 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)*

The issue with Avatar was that it was just a normal 2K (wide 1080p) IMAX movie. While Interstellar is on 70mm IMAX. If you don't know, 70mm IMAX is ~14K digital equivalent, over 135 megapixels!

Avatar was filmed like a normal movie, where ~10% of the edges don't contain important info.

Nolan filmed both Interstellar and the Batman/Dark Knight trilogy in 70mm IMAX, where the cameramen knew how to work the scene.

In the making of The Dark Knight, he talked about how they had to set-up shots so that it took full advantage of the 70mm IMAX format, while not requiring the audience to break their necks.

FYI- only ~100 theaters in the world showed Interstellar in 70mm IMAX, and ~50 of them were in the U.S., California and New York had the most, but in all of Florida only MOSI and one other theater in Ft. Lauderdale had it in 70mm IMAX.

Interstellar at MOSI was my best movie immersion hands down.

I bought the Collector's Edition Blu-Ray of Interstellar, in which it comes with a 70mm IMAX frame of the movie, I scanned it at 1,200 DPI (~4K) because that's the highest my printer could go, and it was nowhere near the full quality.

blackwhitetiger · 1 points · Posted at 03:27:58 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Huh, I would have figured that Avatar used IMAX tech. That's really interesting, and I'll have to make a point of seeing a 70mm film. Is there a major one upcoming? Also, while obviously the dome isn't 3D, can 70mm films be in 3D in non-domes?

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 03:41:41 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499549/technical?mode=desktop

Avatar is only 2K.

Interstellar is the last movie in the 70mm IMAX format. Both Star Wars: Ep VII and Batman v Superman were filmed in 70mm IMAX, but is too expensive, $250,000 to develop the main film, and $60,000 for each individual copy that gets sent to theaters, so for Interstellar which played at 100 theaters in 70mm IMAX, that's $850,000 in film.

Pretty much every 70mm IMAX theater (including MOSI) is getting "upgraded". Instead of a single 70mm IMAX film projector, they will be using dual (3D) 4K laser IMAX projection. This is the newest format.

Comparing it to 3D Digital IMAX theaters like AMC Veterans, it will be 4K instead of 2K (yes, no digital IMAX movie has ever been 4K yet), will be laser instead of regular projection (offering better colors, darker blacks, brighter whites, and anti-aliasing), and will go all the way up to 1.44:1 aspect ratio (70mm IMAX ratio).

Most movies are 2K 2.35:1, which is technically 1080p and ~21x9. 2K Digital IMAX is either 1.78:1 (regular 16x9) or 1.90:1 (~17x9). 70mm IMAX is 1.44:1 (~14x10).

For Interstellar, the only way to see the full picture was to go to MOSI. If you saw it at any other theater, it was cropped. For watching it at home, only Blu-ray will fill the screen, all other formats (iTunes, Netflix, etc.) will have it cropped to 2.35:1.

blackwhitetiger · 1 points · Posted at 03:49:12 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

So they are just getting rid of the 70mm projector at MOSI? That sucks, as it's replacement is vastly inferior, at least on paper. I notice that you said that it can have the same aspect ratio, and presumably take up the same screen size. While I'm disappointed to see the film go, I will at least be interested to see how the new one looks. Even though the current digital projectors are inferior on paper, the actual movie experience is better as it's not shaky, no dirt spots etc.

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 04:04:16 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

The famous Chinese TLC theater in Hollywood just had a huge overhaul to make it 70mm IMAX, and then like 1 year later it was converted into 3D 4K laser IMAX, and people said they didn't notice a difference in resolution (which is a good thing).

To be honest, even 4K is a bit overkill in almost all situations.

I saw Ant-Man in 3D IMAX (2K), and the text in the stuff before the movie happened looked tack sharp even on that ~35ft tall screen, which in part due to the Digital IMAX projectors having 2 overlayed images.

Most movies are 2K, and they will continue to be so for likely 5 more years.

Even at home, you need a gigantic tv and need to sit close to benefit from 4K. If you have a 4K 60" tv, you need to sit 6ft away to get the full benefit, 8ft away to even see a tiny, tiny difference above 1080p.

The main thing in video quality is bitrate, when comparing 1080p and higher is. Which is why 4K UHD on Netflix and YouTube are a joke, they are only 20-22 Mbps (Netldix is like 15.6Mbps, but they use H.265 which is like 40% better than regular H.264). 1080p Blu-ray is 24-36 Mbps, so better than 4K UHD Netflix. The new 4K UHD Blu-rays coming out in December will be around 80 Mbps H.265, so like 112Mbps H.264 equivalent.

blackwhitetiger · 1 points · Posted at 04:14:21 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's good. I wasn't sure if people were actually upset that IMAX was using digital, or that IMAX digital theatre's tended to be much smaller than film IMAXs. I was going to mention, I thought that the movie tonight looked incredibly sharp, to the point that I really didn't see a possible improvement that could be made. At home I have a 100" projector, based on those viewing charts I think I'm just at the distance where I could notice a difference between 1080p and 4K, but honestly I don't care. IMO IMAX is doing it's job if it looks sharp and I feel like I'm moving. Obviously the bigger the better, in terms of both screen size and resolution, but I was very impressed with Ant-Man, even though I saw it on a digital IMAX in fake 3D, and fake IMAX. I do find that impressive, how immersive something completely fake can be. What is the difference sound wise between the digital and normal? Is the sound anything more than a normal surround sound with more speakers?

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 03:51:07 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

To answer your other question, no, there haven't been any 70mm IMAX movies that were also post-converted into 3D for digital theaters.

For Star Wars: Ep VII, because they are just going to transfer the 70mm IMAX footage to the new 4K IMAX format, they can convert it into 3D, where the order of theater quality will be 4K laser IMAX>Digtial IMAX>Premium Large Format Theater (an argument could be made that they are better than Digtial IMAX, 60ft tall theater and Dolby Atmos, I saw Guardians of the Galaxy in this format at the theater in Pinelas Park, and it was really good)>4K>2K.

blackwhitetiger · 1 points · Posted at 03:54:28 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Would you recommend RPX over IMAX then? Also, how does IMAX's surround sound compare to Dolby Atmos?

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 04:22:57 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Most movies are 5.1 or 7.1. You know when you go to a normal theater and they have like 4-6 speakers along the sides, those are not individual feeds, some play the same audio as their neighbor.

Movies made in Dolby Atmos have up to 128 audio tracks and up to 64 unique speakers. Meaning you get much more precise sound awareness (a gunshot is no longer heard in front of, 90^o to the side, or behind you, it can be heard at like 43^o, or whatever). Dolby Atmos also offers height channels, yes, speakers above you, son when a helicopter is positioned above scene's viewpoint, you will actually hear it above you, instead of at your sides.

I am optimistically waiting for IMAX and Dolby to be buddy-buddy and merge their tech.

blackwhitetiger · 1 points · Posted at 04:32:47 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

According to this, IMAX has precise sound. How does this compare to Atmos?

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 04:47:00 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

What the means is that, while being a regular surround format, they use higher quality speakers, uses lasers to position the speakers so that they are located and angled at the best possible locations/angles, and they fine-tune them for audio delay and whatnot.

blackwhitetiger · 1 points · Posted at 04:48:30 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ah, ok. Why do you think most theatre's don't have Atmos?

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 04:53:27 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

No real idea. I'm unsure of for theaters, but Blu-ray's usually uses DTS in favor of Dolby because DTS allows for more audio bitrate, meaning higher quality. Tv broadcast and things like Netflix and iTunes use Dolby because it is of less bitrate, which makes it slightly cheaper on their end.

It may be a deal they have with RPX and similar Premium Large Format theaters as a drawing point for crowds.

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 04:29:24 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

For which theater is better, if a movie is playing in both, I look at IMDb for the aspect ratio specs, if it has an IMAX only aspect ratio, I will go to IMAX. If there is no special aspect ratio, I will go to RPX. Dolby Atmos is not a deciding factor for me, I would much rather see the whole picture with IMAX surround than a cropped picture with Atmos.

blackwhitetiger · 1 points · Posted at 04:31:50 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

What is an IMAX aspect ratio?

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 04:44:11 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

For Digital IMAX, usually 1.78:1 or 1.90:1, some movies, like Ant-Man, don't have IMAX-only aspect ratios.

If you were to buy a movie like Interstellar or Teon:Legacy on Blu-ray, you will easily see the aspect ratio shifts.

blackwhitetiger · 1 points · Posted at 04:46:44 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Was Skyfall shot in partial IMAX? I think I saw this at MOSI and noticed a change during certain scenes. For movies like Ant-Man, how exactly do they fill the whole screen? Is there more content, or is it just stretched out?

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 04:58:31 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Skyfall did have aspect ratio shifts in IMAX-only theaters, from the regular 2.35:1 to 1.90:1. For Ant-Man, every theater gets the same aspect ratio, there will be no difference aspect ratio/content wise if you see Ant-Man in IMAX, RPX, or regular, every theater is 1.85:1 (16.65x9).

So no, the IMAX/RPX theaters just show Ant-Man on a larger screen.

chris2webby · 3 points · Posted at 13:55:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

my theatre was packed full for Avengers 2, but probably around 20 people total for Ant-Man. Everyone loved the movie though.

rohay · 3 points · Posted at 09:20:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

there was about 20 in my showing but we went at 11pm 2d and they had showings starting at 7pm in imax 3d and 2d so hard to tell i think it will probably be word of mouth movie

tymaster50 · 3 points · Posted at 11:30:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

mine was nearly full

dvidsilva · 2 points · Posted at 20:56:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I went to a pre screening and half the theater was empty. Which is weird because they usually turn people away :( Even terminator was full.

Foxhack · 1 points · Posted at 02:28:46 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Three people. A couple and myself.

Then again this was the 10:30 AM showing, so, heh.

natedoggcata · 1 points · Posted at 04:27:07 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Only people in the one I went to were me, my sister, a fellow employee and his girlfriend. Basically no one since we all get in free

prophetofgreed · 1 points · Posted at 07:07:01 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well it was budgeted well in making this. Only 130 million.

So that alone will make it easier to make a profit.

Smart by Marvel, lessen the risk to making the movie.

PabloNueve · 1 points · Posted at 20:59:06 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just got out of a 10 AM showing and it was about 80% full.

Dookie_boy · 1 points · Posted at 15:35:03 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Mine was like 60-70% full but we had like 5 screens showing the movie between 7 - 10 pm.

Cocobender · 8 points · Posted at 06:19:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was my 3rd favorite Marvel film but it was missing one line:

"No ants were harmed in the making of this film."

y2jasper · 4 points · Posted at 13:01:46 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well I saw during the credits it mentions the humane society, and says no animals were harmed

TheDarkWayne · 7 points · Posted at 07:36:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The civil war tease was actual footage from Russo's civil war.

greenapplejellybean · 8 points · Posted at 13:14:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not sure if his is an appropriate place to ask, but does anyone know what glasses Dr Hank Pym was wearing? I really like it.

TKtheknight · 7 points · Posted at 15:43:42 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The film was absolutely fANTastic! It exceeded my expectations and really enjoyed the cast and story. Everyone played their parts perfectly. Also love the hidden easter eggs throughout the film as well. The credit scenes made me even hyped up more for Civil War next year! Ah 2016 is gonna be a huge year!

[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 21:14:07 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

This year marvel villains learn bullets are extremely effective against beloved characters

zosorose · 9 points · Posted at 01:45:57 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

This movie was excellent. Bravo to Marvel for making a movie called Ant Man that rocked

CommanderPaprika · 26 points · Posted at 02:56:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm not going to lie, I fanboyed a lot when I saw the Avengers building and even more when he fought Falcon.

Infernalism · 16 points · Posted at 01:37:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Do we get hints as to the post-movie credits scenes?

djnicko · 3 points · Posted at 01:37:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What do you want to know?

Infernalism · 3 points · Posted at 01:40:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

EVERYTHING.

Or, at the least, what movies do the credits relate to?

wingzero00 · 20 points · Posted at 01:45:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Mid credits scene, related to the wasp.

After credits scene, related to civil war.

igotopotsdam · 9 points · Posted at 02:00:09 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

ALL ABOARD THE CIVIL WAR HYPE TRAIN

djnicko · 5 points · Posted at 01:45:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It features three characters who appeared in Captain America: The Winter Soldier and takes place before or during the events of Captain America: Civil War. :)

chris2webby · 5 points · Posted at 02:47:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think it's during the Civil War. Falcon says "if this happened last week, we would be fine", which is why they probably couldn't call Stark.

igotopotsdam · 2 points · Posted at 02:29:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I feel like instead of the original story from Civil War, Bucky will be the catalyst behind rift between Tony and Cap. From the dialogue in the scene Bucky did something and crated a sceneries where heroes have to choose sides

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 01:46:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The mid-credit scene sets up the new Wasp and the after-credit (3 cameos) sets up Civil War.

SIMULATIONTERMINATED · 1 points · Posted at 06:22:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I mean you just wait there and watch them.

[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 20:05:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The second post credit scene was absolutely not worth waiting for. The end credits take like five minutes, and all that we get are Capt & Falcon talking about needing to get a job done, and Falcon saying "I know a guy."

[deleted] · 16 points · Posted at 15:18:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"So I was in the art gallery with my cuz..." I totally thought that was going to be a DareDevil reference or tie in. Disappointed but also satisfied because the scene was hilarious.

kangawu · 4 points · Posted at 00:12:39 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Having a blind guy stumble behind them would be hilarious

[deleted] · 35 points · Posted at 06:53:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

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VIsForVoltz2 · 8 points · Posted at 23:15:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Disaster? Starring Thanos's glove wiping out 1/2 of the life in the universe?

prophetofgreed · 11 points · Posted at 07:03:29 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Bryan Singer has said that he'd like to make X-Men: Apocalypse feel like a disaster movie.

VIsForVoltz2 · 7 points · Posted at 07:15:00 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well that's checked, have they had a mystery yet? With the right character, that'd be awesome.

prophetofgreed · 4 points · Posted at 07:29:57 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'd love a mystery with Batman or The Question as the main hero

VIsForVoltz2 · 1 points · Posted at 07:37:00 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

No...batman is too iconic, most people can guess who the villain is because he has like 10 villains that aren't terrible, and are cycled regularly.

prophetofgreed · 4 points · Posted at 07:46:52 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

lol, Batman probably has the best rogue gallery in comics, only Spider-Man can match his villains.

Batman is considered the world's greatest detective in DC's world, it just doesn't get featured much in the movies. The Question on the other hand is much different since he's a conspiracy theorist.

svrtngr · 5 points · Posted at 00:01:23 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

A rom-com.

SlowMotionSprint · 5 points · Posted at 04:32:58 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I've said a true spy film revolving around Black Widow directed by Tomas Alfredson(Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy) and written by Purvis and Wade(Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace, Skyfall) is what I want to see. Bring in Eva Green as the main villain, either as La Contessa Valentina Allegra de la Fontaine(as a former HYDRA mole in SHIELD) or as Sunset Bane.

MrHeavySilence · 5 points · Posted at 09:37:25 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Dr Strange could potentially take over the Fantasy genre void that was left behind when the Harry Potter movies ended!

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 22:02:58 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm actually hoping Doctor Strange takes on a horror theme, with crazy visuals straight out of Geiger's and Lovecraft's nightmares.

SteveBob316 · 1 points · Posted at 20:59:43 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think Dr. Strange could tell a really strong Noir-style detective story, with the added bonus of trippy visuals and magic zappy bolts.

BeesPhD · 2 points · Posted at 17:29:39 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Daredevil is already fairly close to that genre. I'd like to see a high fantasy from Dr. Strange. Especially if he has to deal with mephisto.

SteveBob316 · 1 points · Posted at 18:00:28 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'd like that too, but we already get that with Thor. Strange is the best chance to pull off a style of movie nobody does anymore, aside from that awful Harry Dresden TV series.

And you could still use Mephisto.

chris2webby · 13 points · Posted at 02:37:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

AWESOME MOVIE, I loved it!! Funniest part was definitely the giant Thomas the Tank, laying in the street, with it's eyes moving back and forth!

And I also noticed that the song "Antmusic" by Adam and The Ants was listed in the credits. I'm a huge Adam Ant fan, but don't remember hearing the song. Did anyone else catch it?

EDIT: meant to say "Thomas the Train"

zrobusa · 3 points · Posted at 20:51:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Its in the Baskin Robbins

chris2webby · 1 points · Posted at 21:02:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

thanks! I just missed it I guess. and I don't know why, but I keep saying "Thomas the Tank", instead of "Train" or "Tank Engine"!

molemon · 8 points · Posted at 01:40:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think I enjoyed this more than Age of Ultron which I wasn't expecting. Want to see both of them again before deciding, but I enjoyed the smaller scale of this film. Michael Pena is hilarious and I loved every scene he was in.

black-ra1n54 · 2 points · Posted at 06:48:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Definitely stole the show with the stories and "Back it up, just back it up".

I feel like he was only going to have a couple lines in a scene, but he was too good so they wrote him in more.

IcedThatGuy · 7 points · Posted at 02:41:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Excellent movie. Much better than I thought it would be, and surprisingly balanced.

I loved it.

Every character had depth and understandable motive

VeryFatISee · 7 points · Posted at 02:48:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I went into this movie cautiously optimistic, despite all the negativity during pre-production. I walked out pleasantly surprised, definitely a solid entry. It's not entirely without its faults, and I mostly agree with most of the cons (weak villain, which is a shame, since Corey Stoll is a great actor) here, but I personally enjoyed it more than Age of Ultron.

8/10.

But WHY, ANTONY, WHY?!

glassjaw9 · 8 points · Posted at 06:42:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

With so many behind-the-scenes problems leading up to the start of production, I thought this was going to be an absolute mess.

Instead, it's one of the most enjoyable Marvel films yet - I would probably put it somewhere between IRON MAN and GOTG just for sheer fun factor.

Lots of humor, plenty of heart, and some fucking brilliant action scenes. Highly recommended.

bluepanda5 · 7 points · Posted at 22:10:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm surprised how much they characterized the ants.

scrognog_gutentag · 1 points · Posted at 21:45:22 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

They can be cute!

Thessair · 7 points · Posted at 00:42:31 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I, personally, enjoyed the ever loving heck out of the film. It was just plain fun. I never felt the need to check my watch and I thought a lot of the performances were very well done. The anti-aging effect on Douglas was darned impressive, too. Cross may have been a weak villain, but he was charismatic as heck. I'm also quite glad there was more to the Falcon and Thomas the Tank Engine scenes then the trailer gave away. And, as many others have mentioned, based on what happens to poor Antony, I can only hope this is the sequel.

neoblackdragon · 3 points · Posted at 00:59:37 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah that effect was really good. Sometimes it goes into uncanny valley or plastic surgery. Here it was pretty damn good.

suss2it · 9 points · Posted at 03:50:19 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

When Wright left I wasn't planning to watch this in theaters since I lost all hype for it, but my sister convinced me to go to watch it tonight, and I'm glad I did because it's one of my favourite MCU movies now.

booch12 · 7 points · Posted at 04:22:52 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved the way they played with scale in this movie. The way Ant-Man and Yellow Jacket bounced around from large to small was really entertaining.

falconbox · 7 points · Posted at 05:34:54 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can someone explain why Darren Cross was so evil? I mean, he came off as an ass, but the first guy who disagreed with him he simply liquefied.

There was some half-assed explanation about Pym and Yellow Jacket going mad because of the Pym Particle, but Cross had never even worn the suit before if I understand correctly. How could he go insane if the first time he wore it was in the helicopter.

And if that's the reason, does this mean Scott Lang will go crazy in the near future too if he keeps being Ant Man?

Kengluh · 4 points · Posted at 17:06:39 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think Cross needed more reasoning/development. It would have been nice to see the negative impact of the particles in important characters, especially since they kept teasing it.

BigTaker · 3 points · Posted at 00:55:11 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, the Pym Particle thing was odd since there's no scene showing him getting exposed or anything.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 11:25:54 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think it was because of the tests he had done, for example, when we see the lamb being tested on. He had no safety gear on for either of the tests we know he completed there. Also, it was like 20 something C. We don't know how many were previous, or how many made up the A and B categories.

Also, Pym sort of shrugged him off at one point.

AbanoMex · 1 points · Posted at 18:54:54 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

He required protection like a helmet to work on the particles, but he never did, when he tested the second lamb, he was exposed.

falconbox · 1 points · Posted at 19:47:52 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't remember any of the other scientists wearing helmets either.

[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 10:50:55 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did anyone else find the tonal shift between the movie and the Civil War post-credit scene jarring? (Not necessarily in a bad way) Just something about the cinematography and music made it stick out as so much more mature and dark than the lighter toned movie.

So pumped for Civil War.

zetraex · 4 points · Posted at 14:53:40 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Probably the handiwork of the Russo brothers.

neoblackdragon · 3 points · Posted at 00:53:23 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well it's a scene from Civil War and was not shot by the crew of Antman. So it's jarring because it's a different artist hand.

shaneo632 · 2 points · Posted at 20:42:25 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It also had a totally different screen ratio. In my screening at least the Civil War scene had black bars at the top and bottom.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:05:33 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah same here, I think that probably contributed the different feel.

spate42 · 7 points · Posted at 14:50:45 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

That subatomic level was TRIPPY

MrHeavySilence · 2 points · Posted at 07:22:43 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Reminded me of those Kaleidoscope toys

lllMONKEYlll · 2 points · Posted at 09:51:22 on July 30, 2015 · (Permalink)

And I fucking love it.

botanyisfun · 6 points · Posted at 23:08:21 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Very fun movie, possibly could have had more energy if Wright stayed on but it's still a blast.

Rudd, Lily, Douglas and Pena killed it in their roles and Stoll did fine with a very underwritten villain, the collective charm of this cast added a lot of laughs and quality to the film.

Reed's direction was competent, but he also wowed with the fight scenes as well as the shrinking scenes, good work by him on short notice.

The script made it feel like two movies in the first act, but when Pym and Lang finally met they really got a stew going.

Set pieces and CGI were awesome, I really hoped that tank wasn't a keychain and happily got my faith rewarded, also Thomas the Tank Engine was comedy gold for the movie, and I was really happy they utilized that piece more than just what was seen in the trailer.

I also liked how they fit the whole "Why can't they call The Avengers" detail in there with Pym's distrust of Starks and their actions in Age of Ultron, also good work from Anthony Mackie with the fight scenes.

Overall a good movie that survived the controversy to be a strong effort, good for the Marvel canon and can't wait for Civil War!

reebee7 · 3 points · Posted at 04:31:43 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Loved the tank thing. Should have picked up on that sooner.

FFTorres · 2 points · Posted at 07:58:11 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

When Scott picked up the keyring when he was first busting into Pym's house, I immediately thought how that tank was a shrunken real tank. I even told my friend sitting next to me my thoughts and he agreed. Then it happened, and it was so freaking cool.

NiceSasquatch · 8 points · Posted at 14:51:54 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

checkov's tank.

dacalpha · 3 points · Posted at 05:49:12 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I also liked how they fit the whole "Why can't they call The Avengers" detail

I loved this part to death. I hated it so much in Iron Man 3 when Tony never once called in Cap or Thor.

DeeBased · 6 points · Posted at 23:50:37 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Was very pleasantly pleased. I loved the way it was about two men and their relationship with their daughters. Seemed like a well-thought out, well-told story. I think Edgar Wright was best in the capacity he served - envision the film, set it up, and then let some other people do re-writes and add some funny bits. Peyton Reed's direction was decent, I felt some of the comedic scenes could have been even funnier, but overall a good job, especially on a tight timetable and probably under a lot of pressure.

Does 3D add a lot to this movie? I'm going back to see it Tuesday and although I'm not usually a 3D fan, am thinking this might be cool in that format.

ANTELOGI · 3 points · Posted at 19:18:55 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I missed the non-3D showing I had intended to watch, as I've loathed every 3D movie I've seen (which admittedly isn't many) with the exception of Gravity, and ended up being very grateful that I was forced to watch this in IMAX 3D. Absolutely gorgeous. Not overdone, no shit flying in my face, just made some beautiful scenes immersive and incredible to look at.

I don't think I'd want to watch this again unless it was 3D.

Data_Error · 2 points · Posted at 19:17:26 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I personally didn't see it in 3D, either, but I've repeatedly heard that the shrinking and near-ending spoilers scenes are fantastic in 3D.

Kweeg10 · 6 points · Posted at 15:24:47 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

They pulled it off, I can't believe it, they made Antman awesome!

I am a Marvel Fanboy but even I believed this movie was there just to introduce a major character for future Avengers Stories. I made sure I did not get excited and I agreed with the general consensus that GotG was a fluke, not all their movies are going to be successful etc but boy were we wrong. They are good.

heyman0 · 21 points · Posted at 15:35:54 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)*

What was strange is that Scott claimed he had a masters degree in electrical engineering and he had difficulty understanding simple high school particle science that Hank spoke to him with.

neoblackdragon · 7 points · Posted at 00:50:41 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why Pym was talking about was no remotely what Scott studied. I also assume he's more confused about all of this.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 10:55:58 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

He was talking about the quantum realm, it's very feasible that Scott had no understanding. Even Pym himself didn't fully understand the realm.

[deleted] · 11 points · Posted at 01:58:30 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Was it me, or was there very little product placement in the movie? Besides obviously Baskin Robbins.

It was pretty tame compared to other movies, which I am happy about.

MrHeavySilence · 5 points · Posted at 07:15:52 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, there was also Siri and Lifesavers and other products, but they used the products in a really cool way. The physics and sense of wonder behind seeing the world at a miniature scale was so cool that nobody cared about the product placements involved.

SToddB33 · 6 points · Posted at 04:01:45 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Don't forget Lego too.

rockchalk88 · 1 points · Posted at 23:55:04 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

and Thomas the Tank Engine :)

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 12:06:15 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was too busy looking at Ant-Man to notice it. First time I didn't get pissed at a movie for all the product placement.

fwambo42 · 3 points · Posted at 08:19:26 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

There was a pretty obvious spot for Yakult, too.

reebee7 · 4 points · Posted at 04:30:05 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Baskin Robins always finds out."

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 10:38:54 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why make 31 flavors when you cant get vanilla right?

Ijustwantahotpocket · 145 points · Posted at 01:32:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Iron man 3 should have taken notes from this movie on how to keep it funny and interesting

Edit: I liked iron man 3, just too cheesy of comedy from what I expected in contrast to the previous 2

Babushka5 · 128 points · Posted at 01:39:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Iron man 3 was pretty popular with audiences and critics so I think it was fine in its own right

GamingTatertot · 68 points · Posted at 01:45:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was? Man I hated it. I guess I can see why people liked it though.

wingzero00 · 100 points · Posted at 01:48:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I liked it too, it was more of a tony stark movie than an iron man movie. Heck i liked the twist too.

djnicko · 29 points · Posted at 01:51:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was a very good movie twist, but at the same time, I slightly felt betrayed. A very conflicting plot point, but one I have grown to accept over time.

ldnk · 4 points · Posted at 03:14:12 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I still dislike the twist because for a realism take on the Mandarin I thought it was a pretty fantastic character. To lose it in a silly twist was disappointing because I could totally get behind a subsequent Mandarin vs. Stark battle that takes on more of the magical rings element.

I do somewhat understand why they wouldn't want to get into the rings given that they are building to Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet and they probably don't want to create too many magical items for the average movie-goer.

[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 00:58:43 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I suggest you watch this.

samcuu · 1 points · Posted at 10:48:31 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought it was a pretty fantastic character.

I was actually glad the twist happened because before that I thought Mandarin was totally disappointing. Generic "I'm gonna bomb the shit out of America" terrorist, seemed more like a job for Jack Bauer than Tony Stark.

ztfreeman · 2 points · Posted at 05:03:08 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Marvel One-Shot spoilers

Widan · 2 points · Posted at 02:58:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really liked the Mandarin as a villain in that movie. His mannerisms in the videos were great and his voice was really cool and honestly pretty menacing.

I hated that twist.

xXGriffin300Xx · 2 points · Posted at 08:34:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

But, Ole?

TrevorSlattery · 1 points · Posted at 20:12:00 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Olé.

Simplyforsaken · 4 points · Posted at 01:53:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Man i hated 3, the fucked the villain up so bad. It was just so fucking disappointing how the just threw away someone interesting for another random rich white dude.

Ikouze · 4 points · Posted at 02:33:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't see why people are downvoting you. I felt the same way. The totally wasted the Mandarin for some generic villain who got mad that Tony Stark stood him up on a roof. not to mention the humor was kinda all over the place. Probably my least favorite Phase 2 movie so far.

darth_static · 5 points · Posted at 05:03:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Have you seen the Marvel One-shot retconning that? It's really good. Complete spoiler of the short.

NachosPR · 2 points · Posted at 05:27:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

****SPOILER ALERT***

The Mandarin is alive. For the sake of people ignoring my spoiler alert, i'll leave it at that. If you're interested google should be all you need

mastyrwerk · -1 points · Posted at 03:26:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Tony Stark is Iron Man.

filthysize · 2 points · Posted at 03:30:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yup. It's my favorite of the three by a wide margin. Found it funnier and smarter than the first two.

thatguyinconverse · 5 points · Posted at 04:56:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I went in wanting a Marvel movie through the eyes of Shane Black, and that's exactly what I got. I loved how the goons were humanized, I loved the Mandarin twist. But even more, I loved the butthurt fans complaining that the movie did not do justice to a green racist stereotype with magic rings. Oh, and the half-out of the suit fight scenes were imaginative as fuck.

BritishHobo · 3 points · Posted at 16:25:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, when your biggest complaint is that the villain wasn't a magic wizard, you're on shaky ground.

AbanoMex · 2 points · Posted at 14:25:01 on July 29, 2015 · (Permalink)

People didnt complain that much that the mandarin wasnt magic, people were on board of making him a modern terrorist, it was the twist and the generic villain that was a bummer(killian), also the movie tried to be serious and then it was like nah bruh, this is a comedy.

Thats why i liked antman, the pacing of the humor was well executed and it wasnt all over the place like IM3

secretreddname · 0 points · Posted at 15:48:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I recently re watched iron man 3 on a flight and it was much better than I remembered.

Steellonewolf77 · 0 points · Posted at 23:50:27 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I recently rewatched it and it was way better than I remember it being.

ilovezam · 2 points · Posted at 12:09:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Didn't comic readers hate it?

BelovedApple · 1 points · Posted at 22:50:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I honestly think Iron Man 3 is one of the worst super hero movies to come this side of the millennium. It's down there with X Men Origins, The Last Stand, Daredevil 2003, Electra. Iron Man 2 was pants too.

BigGreekMike · 0 points · Posted at 07:03:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Best film of the MCU in my opinion. Not saying it's my favorite, but such a well-made, well-written movie.

nofx1978 · 0 points · Posted at 10:42:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

The critics were lukewarm to average at best. The audience was postive of course, because it is a cartoon come to life.

RiseOfEnoch · 0 points · Posted at 21:09:43 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

"People liked it, therefore it was good"

mentho-lyptus · 5 points · Posted at 03:05:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It should have taken notes from a movie that didn't exist yet? Talk about setting unrealistic expectations.

[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 02:23:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I would say the same for Avengers 2. It tried too hard for comedy and it showed.

nofx1978 · 0 points · Posted at 10:45:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well it was written by Whedon, so you know it's going to be cheesy.

grangach · 2 points · Posted at 08:08:11 on August 2, 2015 · (Permalink)

iron man 3 was a massive disappointment for me.

GreedE · 6 points · Posted at 01:56:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I liked Iron Man 3

tompengu · 5 points · Posted at 02:56:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I liked Iron Man 3 more than any of the other Iron Man movies. There, I said it.

zackmanze · 3 points · Posted at 03:49:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

There are DOZENS of us!

tompengu · 2 points · Posted at 04:11:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

DOZENS!

mfranko88 · 4 points · Posted at 06:36:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really never understood why people didn't like it. Great action, great characters, amazing Stark banter. What's not to like?

tompengu · 1 points · Posted at 16:01:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really think it had amazing character development. I think it was the same reason people didn't like "The Dark Knight Rises": too much Tony/Bruce, not enough Iron Man/Batman.

mfranko88 · 3 points · Posted at 17:39:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really hope that isn't the reason. Because that is a bad reason.

blackwhitetiger · 1 points · Posted at 02:39:53 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

**This comment written on a FiOS device.

nechneb · 1 points · Posted at 03:08:39 on July 31, 2015 · (Permalink)

If ironman3 needs to take notes then age of ultron just flunked out of the school.

newuser13 · -1 points · Posted at 02:45:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Iron Man 3 is by far Marvel's best film.

BigGreekMike · 1 points · Posted at 07:04:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

You get it

thewisefoolHHH · 1 points · Posted at 05:26:28 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's Marvel's version of Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang. I really don't get what's not to like. The real Mandarin is still out there, it'll make for interesting story development when he is finally revealed. The twist was fine and hilarious.

Danton87 · 0 points · Posted at 06:17:54 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, they should have taken notes all those years ago - before Ant-Man successfully changed the formula a bit.

Not being shitty, but it came out so long ago that it would be more fair to say Ant-Man took notes from Iron Man 3 and fixed the problem.

McMqsmith · 12 points · Posted at 02:08:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The first time I watched it I thought Paul Rudd wasn't that funny, but after a second viewing I realized that he is funny, but Michael Peña just steals the show. Every word that came out of his mouth was hilarious.

OnECenTX · 11 points · Posted at 08:26:09 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Quick takeaways:

Michael freaking Pena!
Ant-Man v Falcon!
The shrinking visuals!
Pratt's abs and now Rudd's abs!? Who's next.... Ty Burrell?! Is it too late to cast him as Doctor Strange???
Scott's little girl ^{_^}
"Baskin-Robbins knows everything....."
Did Ant-Man out-interstellar Interstellar???
Hank's wife.... DoA???
Also, did anyone else think he had her in the tank key chain?
Judy Greer!? Weren't you just in Jurassic World!?!..... The link to Pratt's abs and Rudd's abs..... Now I see!
Adam McKay's rewrite!
An overall fun heist comedy superhero action movie!

nhg92 · 2 points · Posted at 14:52:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ty Burell is already part of the MCU. He's Doc Samsno in The Incredible Hulk.

OnECenTX · 2 points · Posted at 16:14:13 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Shhhhhhh.... That didn't happen ;)

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 13:15:58 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Eric Stonestreet as Black Bolt

[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 02:41:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Honestly, might be one of my favorite marvel movies.

It was quippy but still funny, unlike Age of Ultron, and the story was contained so it didn't get too cluttered.

I liked the characters and the backstory to all the characters was pretty well done in general. Michael Pena was the fucking bomb.

The cameos and in-universe references were plentiful but clever and they made sense.

Also, the soundtrack was actually pretty good this time around! Too many marvel movies have had horribly shitty forgettable soundtracks. I was humming the soundtrack on the way out the theater. Reminded me a lot of Mission Impossible, which I'm sure is not a coincidence.

I_am_Drexel · 6 points · Posted at 02:48:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I left the theatre after the mid-credits scene thinking that was it and it hurts so bad.

homeboi808 · 3 points · Posted at 02:49:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I can tell you what it is.

Bucky, Falcon, and Cap are in a room together. Bucky's metal arm seems to be broken. Cap doesn't want to tell Tony, Falcon says that he knows a guy.

SlowMotionSprint · -1 points · Posted at 04:43:05 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was the only one in a half full theater that stayed till the end. I was surprised.

Noctrune · 6 points · Posted at 05:46:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Way better than expected. The fights were really well done and were great at showcasing Ant-Man's powers.

Kheten · 6 points · Posted at 05:59:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think to me, the funniest thing about this is the subtle (if on purpose) meta joke about the film industry. Before CGI, everything that was supposed to be this huge explosion was shot in miniature. So to see the up-close loud KABOOM into an edit to a shot of this inconspicuously small nudge was great.

The_Naked_Snake · 6 points · Posted at 06:10:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Baskin Robbins was hilarious. Everything about it's involvement was perfect. The idiot customer, the kiss ass manager, the veiled threat of Baskin Robbins investigation, everything was too funny.

SlowMotionSprint · 3 points · Posted at 04:45:32 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I can honestly say, going into this movie...Baskin Robbins being painted as a nefarious big brother type organization was something I wasn't expecting.

[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 06:20:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anybody have a picture of Janet's suit??? It was only like 30 seconds long and I want to see it again!

a_rabid_fuzzle · 7 points · Posted at 07:45:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

How about that tank on the keychain!? That shit was bananas. I thought it was hilarious and totally off-the-wall

Dropkickjon · 6 points · Posted at 12:32:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Never go full subatomic.

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 13:01:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Since RDJ said that, I guess it works.

Prax150 · 5 points · Posted at 14:56:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I love the way the film connects to the MCU. There really was no need to, it's small enough that they can get away without mentioning the Avengers, but it shows the effect that they have on this world. And they could have just said, nope, I don't want to call Tony Stark, but they actually give him a legitimate reason to distrust him and SHIELD, AND they still bring in Falcon for maybe the best scene of the movie, AND Hydra as part of the villainry, AND mention Spider-Man AND mention what happened in Ultron.

If the rumors are true and Wright was fired for not wanting to include all that, I ain't even mad.

TLKv3 · 5 points · Posted at 17:39:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Cross "shrink-ooze"ing the one guy that didn't agree with him in the bathroom is going to haunt me for so fucking long...

chris2webby · 7 points · Posted at 17:47:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

it really was horrifying

MiguelGusto · 7 points · Posted at 18:05:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, he erased the guy from existence and flushed the little miscarriage of what was left down the toilet like he was a piece of shit. Probably one of the oddest and most fucked up murders in the MCU.

chris2webby · 5 points · Posted at 18:51:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I agree with it being the most fucked up murder, with Cap knocking a HYDRA soldier into the helicopter blades in a close 2nd

Fooliomcskippy · 3 points · Posted at 09:05:02 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I personally would put Yellowjacket himself's death up there as a pretty brutal murder. Lots of people think that he was sucked into the subatomic dimension, but what really happened is that he was sucked into his suits' reactor micro-implosion. That's basically like getting your body forced through an inch-wide hole.

chris2webby · 1 points · Posted at 18:43:07 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

yea, that was pretty brutal. It looked like he was being turned inside-out.

prophetofgreed · 1 points · Posted at 18:19:48 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was Winter Soldier that kicked a man into those blades.

chris2webby · 2 points · Posted at 18:42:11 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm talking about the first Captain America, when he's trying to stop Red Skull at the end. He jumps on a helicopter/jet type thing, and is hanging on, and fighting a HYDRA guy. The HYDRA guy gets knocked off, and falls into the blades and is chopped into smithereens.

TLKv3 · 6 points · Posted at 17:49:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

And he does it so nonchalantly. "Sorry, Frank-" Bang "Goodbye, Frank." Wipes ... Flush

Foxhack · 1 points · Posted at 02:14:10 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

WHAT ABOUT THAT POOR LAMB :(

hotcarl7379 · 7 points · Posted at 10:14:43 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Can we talk about how I just fought an Avenger, and didn't die!"

I was hoping the mid or post-credit scene would be him turning into Giant Man, but I was still not disappointed...

GamingTatertot · 7 points · Posted at 12:20:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I have a feeling Giant-Man is coming soon. Possibly in Civil War

wosh · 2 points · Posted at 13:36:29 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I figured they would save that for the sequel or at least the next film he's in

SandmanAlcatraz · 1 points · Posted at 02:29:06 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought Giant Man was going to be a big reveal at the end of the movie, before the credits. Especially when Scott was tinkering with the regulator earlier in the movie.

hotcarl7379 · 1 points · Posted at 19:52:22 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

My original thought was that it would be the mid credit reveal, but I like what they did much more. I shared your thoughts when I saw him messing with the regulator at the end... Was hoping he was going to burst through the roof, but it'll be fine to keep that for when he has to fight hulk in civil war

Edit: A word

BigTaker · 1 points · Posted at 01:11:12 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Saving Giant-Man for Infinity War, I'm guessing.

Hylian49 · 6 points · Posted at 21:44:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think I found the second half more entertaining than the first; that being said, this was a great movie- a very nice break from the "OSHITSHITSHITTHEWORLDSGONNAENDFUCK" movies Marvel's been putting out for a while.

Not that I dislike those movies, but it's nice to see that they can make movies with lighter tones as well.

scrognog_gutentag · 4 points · Posted at 17:28:17 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I guess you could say the problems were much smaller XD

[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 03:21:21 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure Catherine Zeta Jones could play Janet.

They kept mentioning how time and space isn't a thing in that zone.. So she wouldn't age. She'd be around 25-30 years younger than him. Just seems like a perfect set up for her to come in and take that role.

I'm sure Michael Douglas wouldn't have any objection to this and no one would ever have any objections with him because he likes to punch people in the face.

scrognog_gutentag · 6 points · Posted at 17:22:06 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

You just made me geek out. Thinking about how Hope may have adopted her mom's style could lead to the return of Catherine Zeta-Jones's bob haircut a la Chicago. Like this

BigTaker · 1 points · Posted at 00:56:59 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure Catherine Zeta Jones could play Janet.

Great idea, man.

[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 10:51:11 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did you know michael douglas got throat cancer from eating catherine zeta jones' pussy too much? Maybe they can work that into the story somehow, because obviously disney is gonna avoid the whole domestically abusive hank pym.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 16:03:59 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Douglas: 10/10 would eat there again.

Cenoflame · 5 points · Posted at 16:42:20 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wondering if that disk that made him bigger will have anything to do with him becoming Giant Man, if they go down that road at all.

MrHeavySilence · 6 points · Posted at 19:58:57 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm waiting for a clutch moment in the Civil War battle where Ant Man needs to buy some time for Captain America and goes skyscraper size!

2litersam · 7 points · Posted at 01:56:49 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

They'll probably save that for Infinity War.

BigTaker · 2 points · Posted at 00:50:31 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh yeah, definitely.

turtlefucker472 · 10 points · Posted at 01:32:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's not comming to my country for another two weeks :(

BlackFireXSamin · 6 points · Posted at 01:56:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It'll be worth the wait. Go in knowing it wasn't what all the naysayers were warning us about when it was announced.

Bieber_hole_69 · 2 points · Posted at 01:48:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I just had ear surgery yesterday, so I won't be able to see any movies for a month. First MCU movie I haven't seen on opening night. Hoping to be able to see it at a drive-in this weekend to at least tide moe over to seeing it in a real theatre.

Kytescall · 1 points · Posted at 02:30:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not coming to mine for another two months...

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:19:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Stay out of this thread! You want to be surprised!

TheWinterSoldier_ · 14 points · Posted at 03:27:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

FALCONNNNN!!!!!! Always awesome seeing him!

Had that spoiled for me though... wish it wasn't in the TV Spots :(

tundra8 · 6 points · Posted at 02:27:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm going to bet a lot of ants never escaped the explosion of that building. :(

MavericksFan41 · 7 points · Posted at 04:25:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Pour one out for those poor bastards

Taaaaaahz · 4 points · Posted at 02:55:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Peña's character was fucking hilarious.

Also, you could totally tell this started as Edgar Wright's project.

Misinglink15 · 5 points · Posted at 03:13:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

For once, I did not CARE about if the "villian" was good or not. It didn't matter, for me it was about making Ant-man the character and its dynamic work, and it succeded.

[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 05:27:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

The movie surprisingly had a lot of emotional scenes. Mostly between Scott and his daughter. Really teared up when he went subatomic to save her from Yellowjacket :(

LRedditor15 · 5 points · Posted at 22:29:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Loved how Luis was whistling "It's a Small, Small World".

scrognog_gutentag · 2 points · Posted at 17:48:56 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

And his van's horn plays La Cucaracha

Conkeldurr · 7 points · Posted at 00:21:00 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I am so glad "steal some stuff" turned out to be "steal some shit"

chris2webby · 5 points · Posted at 00:26:28 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

funny line from the computer hacker, when seeing Scott shrink down for the first time:

"This is the work of gypsies!!"

Also, when they mentioned the Titanic and he said "not everyone died, the old woman lived and threw the jewels in the ocean"

lupuscapabilis · 1 points · Posted at 05:57:22 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

That gypsies line got a big laugh from the crowd I was in. The biggest laugh? That one about the dog.

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 06:38:04 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

ANTHONYYYYYYYYYYY^{YYYYY^{YYYyy^{yyyy^y!!}}}

[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 08:14:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I haven't felt sympathy for an ant since anty in Honey i shrunk the kids. I think it's top 3 marvel movies, for me.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:09:50 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

https://twitter.com/HeatherNguyen88/status/622422900495155200

Paper-Dragon · 5 points · Posted at 22:41:01 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I would really have liked to see more of Pym as the Antman action. It's like seeing the original master at work. The sequence with the ICBM was awesome! Got my heart pounding watching him desperately laser-saw at the titanium.

nonnonsequitur · 7 points · Posted at 08:52:07 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved how this movies subtly played with cliches. The final lead man and lead woman kiss was kept from us until Michael Douglas opens a door and then it was funny. Normally there's a huge stupid build up that feels forced because audiences expect it. This one played with our expectations, which I loved.

Especially because the dialogue felt corny around Hope's mom's death. That didn't need the secrecy (or if it did it needed a better reveal). I understand they needed it to set up the subatomic suspense at the end, though.

Other than that, I went in with low expectations and came out super surprised. Michael Pena for the win (as others have noticed) and I liked the nod to the Avengers and set up for future movies.

HollandGW215 · 5 points · Posted at 14:15:35 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

A lot better than I expected. A lot more action than I expected. A lot funnier than I expected. Can't wait for the sequel.

Hope Michael Pena's character appears again in more movies.

Only thing that sucked was Yellow Jacket. I would like to see the original script by Edger Wright. Maybe we will get a documentary 10 years from now narrated by Kevin Smith about it. Just curious to see what the creative differences are and if that movie would have been better, worse or the same.

FalconLorenzo · 1 points · Posted at 06:46:14 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I agree on all counts. I just hope there will be a true sequel in addition to the Avengers crossovers! Saw it won the weekend but was the second lowest grossing marvel film in the MCU.

This was really a breath of fresh air for a stagnating MCU. It will take some rewatches to make sure but this and GotG were probably my two favorite MCU films to date.

Top 5 are probably GotG, Ant Man, Avengers, Cap 2, Iron Man 1.

RickeyB · 15 points · Posted at 02:53:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That transition from Hope training Scott to her and Hank having a sentimental moment was one of the worst transitions...

black-ra1n54 · 7 points · Posted at 06:44:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They also needed like, two or three more scenes for cross.

One where he shrinks with the suit,

another where hope comes in the house and says he has been practicing day and night in it, where pym responds with the thing about his mind being turned to pudding,

and a third showing him being crazy/ turning crazy wanting/needing more time with the suit.

wilsonw · 2 points · Posted at 14:26:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah. I don't know if it was clearly explained as to why he went so crazy so fast.

thedolaon · 2 points · Posted at 05:11:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

haha yea that was....odd.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 15:21:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I liked it because that seemed realistic. Awkward Dad who has been dealing with this tragedy alone forever, just comes out and says the truth because he can't wait another second.

homeboi808 · -2 points · Posted at 02:58:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I did feel rushed, probably ~5-10 minutes extra overall in the director's cut.

TheWinterSoldier_ · 8 points · Posted at 03:29:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Hi I'm Scott"

Paul Rudd as Ant-Man is a national treasure

black-ra1n54 · 5 points · Posted at 06:57:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

One of the greatest scenes. I hope some of that stuff was ad-lib. That whole fight scene with the references were great. First MCU movie to really hit you in the face multiple times with references from previous movies.

Most of the time it's just the one-liners thrown in there and brushed away.

[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 11:33:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Pena stole the show for me!

He was Ant Man's equivalent of Kat Dennings in Thor. But he was infinitely better. If Dennings came back a second time, then they certainly should bring back Pena in the MCU.

Horseclover_Phat · 9 points · Posted at 14:08:27 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did anyone else think Hope's 'About damn time' line in the postcredits scene was Marvel talking directly to the fans? Sort of saying, "yeah, we're maybe ready to have a female be the main superhero." Be interesting to see if they do anything with it, though.

GamingTatertot · 10 points · Posted at 19:53:50 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I took it more as a way of saying "You finally got to see Ant-Man, now here's Wasp finally!" since those two were original Avengers in the comics.

prophetofgreed · 3 points · Posted at 15:07:44 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah it was a clear meta joke to the fans since the extra scenes are for the fans.

neoblackdragon · 1 points · Posted at 00:52:38 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Wasp is not a main superhero. So that surely wasn't it. Besides Captain Marvel will be Carol Danvers.

lupuscapabilis · 2 points · Posted at 05:37:40 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Wasp was a huge part of the creation of the Avengers and one of its leaders in the comics.

[deleted] · 10 points · Posted at 17:38:50 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Paul Rudd's friend Luis stole the show for me. He was hilarious!!!

Zach223 · 4 points · Posted at 03:48:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

My one burning question from the movie. If Cross has the tech to make that gun that turned the dude into the bloody snot bubble, why not just make a crap load of those?

PM_Me_Annie_Drawings · -2 points · Posted at 03:50:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The answer to your question: https://soundcloud.com/soundhippo/unfinished-journey thank me later

Zach223 · 1 points · Posted at 04:32:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Is there supposed to be sound?

MavericksFan41 · 4 points · Posted at 04:22:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Oh man this was great. It basically played out the same as the current ongoing. Scott was funny, clever, and endearing. The after credit scenes... Holy shit Bucky is back, and Wasp is officially a part of the MCU. Falcon was great in his little role. All the little references were nice like Cross saying "Tales to Astonish" aka Pym's first appearance. Cross also wasn't a horrible villain imo, and probably still alive. It also looks like Scott will side with Cap during Civil War, which will be cool to see bc I'm pretty sure he was dead during that event. All in all, definitely not a bust, and probably better than AoU

Edit: Spider-fucking-Man

sum1rand0m · 3 points · Posted at 05:20:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I remember when everyone thought a guy that shrinks was going to be a dumb movie. But I always knew this was going to be a good movie and surprise everyone, and damn was I right. New favorite MCU movie.

bagon · 3 points · Posted at 06:28:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Maybe I was hoping for more since the last unexpected (for lack of a better word) MCU movie, Guardians of the Galaxy, knocked it out of park but I left a little disappointed with the movie as a whole and thought it was a bit flat at times.

However, that second credits scene got me insanely hyped up for Civil War.

Morningsun92 · 4 points · Posted at 07:39:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

First the lambs, then Antony? Q__Q

dens421 · 4 points · Posted at 07:59:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

http://www.puffchrissy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Hank-Pym-and-his-Magically-Giant-Skateboard.jpg

sliktuc · 1 points · Posted at 17:17:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

This is the prequel we deserve.

dens421 · 2 points · Posted at 21:39:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

but NO ORIGINS!

Bonanza86 · 3 points · Posted at 12:24:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Pena was a damn scene stealer for sure. I'm glad he was in this movie.

HowieGaming · 3 points · Posted at 13:16:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just gotta say that the score for the movie is fantastic.

navjot94 · 1 points · Posted at 16:08:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I liked how they integrated the Avengers theme when he went to New York. Also, on a sidenote, right when that second after-credits scene came on and they started the Winter Soldier scene...holy shit, so exciting.

cayal3 · 4 points · Posted at 15:20:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Saw this yesterday. I didn't have any expectations about it but thoroughly enjoyed it. It started slow and the jokes didn't work at the beginning but it really picked up and kept going. I think all of the characters worked too. Even Darren, while not an interesting bad guy, suited the role and the movie.

My big question is how did Darren get into the yellow jacket suit???

Fooliomcskippy · 1 points · Posted at 09:08:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

what's not established in the movie is that everyone in marvel universe has the ability to get into superhero costumes in under 4 seconds. Even if they're ridiculously clunky, it's just how it works.

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 23:43:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Avon Barksdale was great

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 08:22:40 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's one messed up looking dog

zetraex · 1 points · Posted at 15:13:01 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

And they kept it too, HA.

Foxhack · 3 points · Posted at 02:07:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

So uh, was anyone else expecting Catherine Zeta-Jones to be Janet Van Dyne? No? Because that would've been pretty cool.

Also, I think Ant-Man and Pym accidentally killed a few flunkies. When Ant-Man knocks the goons out where the model building is, after Pym gets shot? They're knocked out, and while the other guy dragged out the mook he knocked out... those others were left behind.

And the building imploded with them inside...

RandomGuy3934 · 5 points · Posted at 02:35:36 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Okay, something really 'bugs' me. (I'll show myself out right now...)

But seriously, my mom noticed that in the subatomic scene she saw Janet van Dyne, which I found really interesting, since I missed it. Does anyone have video of the OG Wasp's alleged appearance? Thank you!

wingzero00 · 2 points · Posted at 03:36:24 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I dunno, people here think its dr.strange

BigTaker · 1 points · Posted at 01:14:00 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why, I wonder?

prophetofgreed · 2 points · Posted at 07:32:46 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

People have mentioned that you can see a silhouette in the Microverse sequence. Could be Janet, or Yellowjacket.

I hope if there's a sequel they delve into it more.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:30:22 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I didn't see her and I was looking for her.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 04:03:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

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lupuscapabilis · 1 points · Posted at 05:55:28 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Also, to the guy who kept texting in front of me. He has no idea how close I came to kicking him in the base of his cranium.

bub2000 · 4 points · Posted at 04:50:43 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

No one is talking about the Garrett Morris cameo??

He was the original Ant-Man!

prophetofgreed · 4 points · Posted at 06:22:06 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just realized... the Microverse has been featured in a movie before Wonder Woman or Flash.

That sequence was AMAZING!

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:31:21 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Something something talking racoon and Wonder Woman

TheKobraKid · 4 points · Posted at 06:36:23 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved this movie. Scratch that: ADORED it. I saw it in 3D, so the fight scenes really popped out. Great humor, grade-A action scenes. You could tell some Edgar Wright shit had been put in there. I mean, the tank and Thomas the Train? Also, the giant ant. I'm just happy they gave him a screenplay credit.

Should you go see this: OH GOD YES.

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 14:57:56 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Was anyome else just freaked out that they showed the remnants of that guy's body on screen? Like I expected an off-screen "splooch" sound and then Croas wiping it off the floor, but it was SO much more gruesome to actually see what happened and then actually watch Cross wipe it. Seriously messed up. Right now I love tjat they did it, but at the time I was close to losing my lunch and I kept closing my eyes everytime they were doing it to the lamb.

gandalfsmagicgaydick · 4 points · Posted at 18:50:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Peña stole this movie I thought. Dude was hilarious.

deltadal · 2 points · Posted at 19:52:58 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

No kidding, his performance was sublime.

Miles_Prower1 · 4 points · Posted at 23:25:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Big comic/ Marvel fan here. Never cared much about Antman in the past. Was kinda puzzled when they talked about making a movie after this less popular character.

I have to say, I loved the movie. It was an exceedingly fun movie to watch.

marreco_marrento · 5 points · Posted at 23:54:09 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

While watching it, the only thing I could think of was a scene with Scott, Tony, Rocket, Starlord and Dr. Pym talking with each other in a room.

neoblackdragon · 1 points · Posted at 01:02:01 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I kinda feel like Tony and Pym would actually get along. They both had a technology they didn't want getting out.

Murder_Boners · 3 points · Posted at 08:57:04 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, but Pym seems to not be a fan of the Starks :)

GamingTatertot · 2 points · Posted at 20:03:10 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I liked how Pym told off Howard and yet Howard still fully respects him.

Murder_Boners · 2 points · Posted at 20:14:18 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I am psyched to see what they do with that in the coming movies.

neoblackdragon · 1 points · Posted at 00:59:35 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well of course from reputation but remove that and I think they would get along.

Murder_Boners · 2 points · Posted at 01:07:31 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Maybe, although I get the sneaking suspicion that one can only deal with Tony Stark in small bursts of time. If you had to spend all the time with him he might get obnoxious

Kengluh · 4 points · Posted at 00:18:44 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did anyone notice Cross's tendency to linger his hand on the shoulder of the people he was planning to "kill"? Kind of hilariously out of place. He did this to the goo-guy and to Pym, both characters oddly acknowledging the action, yet no further explanation was given. It was as if they almost had him plant tiny cameras on the shoulder (which may have made more sense?) yet scrapped that part of the script.

interp21 · 2 points · Posted at 19:47:14 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah I noticed that too, but I guess I forgot about it because they didn't do anything with it

Weigard · 3 points · Posted at 00:58:28 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I had a lot of trouble getting into this movie. There was a lot of glaring MCU stuff shoehorned in, culminating in the Falcon fight. I felt the Ant-Man part really got rolling after.

I'm not familiar with Scott Lang, but I kind of wonder why we couldn't just see Hank Pym: either back in time in the Wasp storyline, or as an old guy looking to redeem himself. It would alleviate the problem of telegraphing what was going to happen to Scott by hearing it told by Hank first. Plus it would have given Hope a meatier role in the story.

The parts that still had Edgar Wright's stink on it were good, and really wish he had stayed on.

Best performance: Michael Pena
Worst performance: John Slattery's moustache

aaronsherman · 4 points · Posted at 22:15:07 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Went in not expecting much. Got so much more! This movie arguably had more heart than any MCU movie to date, and to boot it was absolutely hilarious! The training montage was a little be predictable, but even then there were elements that I loved (wish the punch hadn't been in the ads, though...)

Anubiska · 4 points · Posted at 13:37:16 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Off Topic but, Corey Stoll for Lex Luthor, it is allI can think of now. Get rid of Jesse Eisenberg.

The kid might do a good psychopath but Stoll carries the intimidating factor and the Idon't give a shit about the world and I'll do what it takes to bring down superman attitude.

dtsyk · 2 points · Posted at 09:43:54 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's what I was thinking during every scene with Stoll. Guy would kill it as Lex. It also made me think that Tom Hardy would also be a great Lex Luthor.

_PM_ME_YOUR_SECRETS_ · 4 points · Posted at 15:36:47 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Star wars blaster sounds coming from yellow jacket? Am I crazy or did that happen

Kholdie · 1 points · Posted at 22:24:52 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah! It happened

rockchalk88 · 1 points · Posted at 23:53:13 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

LucasFilm did post-production sound effects. Saw it in the credits.

djc6535 · 3 points · Posted at 16:27:59 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

So, everybody calls this a heist movie, but I think that's not entirely accurate.

Oh sure, it has a heist in it, but part of the fun of the heist movie is watching the plan come together on the fly. The formula typically is "Here's a place we need to get into, here are the things that protect the thing we want to steal, assemble a team, montage of the team preparing without explaining everything they're doing. Watch the heist unfold with a few fun surprises that were hinted at by the preparation montage.

For reference, consider the Oceans 11 movies, or Sneakers.

This one pretty much said "Here's the problem, here's what we need to do to overcome it. Now let's watch Ant-Man do exactly that". Oh wait, we need to assemble a team. Okay, grab the 3 extras with only briefly hinted at skills earlier to sit in a van and... well... be people we can talk to to explain what we're doing as we do it.

I don't know... I thought there was a lot of missed opportunity here.

novacolumbia · 3 points · Posted at 17:19:24 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Random question, but it kinda bothered me. Why doesn't the Ant-Man suit have wings? If the suits are capable (Yellowjacket / Wasp), why would he not equip a pair on himself instead of relying on the ants?

jennyCKC · 4 points · Posted at 11:13:33 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

RIP antony

TheMasterNoob · 10 points · Posted at 00:17:37 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Have you guys seen those shitty articles talking about how Ant Man is a "message" to Marvel that they need to up the ante be cause it ONLY made 58 million? It is some of the most stupidest things I've ever read and I regret ever giving them a click.

reebee7 · 6 points · Posted at 04:32:24 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's fucking Ant Man, I can't believe it made 20 bucks. Ten years ago I'd've told you to fuck off, they can't make Ant-Man a movie.

[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 02:22:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was dope as hell.

[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 04:58:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved the Stark/Pym rivalry

heyman0 · 7 points · Posted at 20:17:24 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I love how scott's like: "this is very touching" "Did I just ruin the moment?...I'm gonna make some tea".

I like his personality and how he's a very aware person. It's like he's part of the audience. I hope the deadpool movie ends up like this.

GamingTatertot · 5 points · Posted at 21:45:21 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not to mention Paul Rudd is the perfect person to play Scott.

rohay · 5 points · Posted at 09:03:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That semi spoiler and his response "Did he just say Hi I'm Scott " this movie was so much better then i thought it was going to be

also Antarangs hope he goes big in civil war

[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 07:48:38 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

"He said yes." End credits

Great/unique ending.

SkywayTraffic · 3 points · Posted at 02:10:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

someone please explain the last scene with falcon and also the credit scene with falcon. They went way too fast and something went over my head because it made no sense. I assume falcon was looking for Scott? But why? And then as the after credit scene taking place during civil war? Didn't catch the reference to tony. Why would it "have been easier a week ago" and who is the guy falcon knows? Scott? I feel like I missed 1 or 2 very crucial lines in that ending haha

BenjaminTalam · 1 points · Posted at 04:17:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The very last scene was actually a scene from Civil War, so any confusion will be cleared up in the actual movie. Essentially, they found Bucky and need to move him, but have to be hush hush about it and don't want Tony to know because Tony is up to some shenanigans and part of it probably involves hunting Winter Soldier himself. So Falcon says he knows a guy who might help in the moving deparment, Ant Man.

The end of the movie with Falcon is probably after the scene from Civil War where Falcon is looking for Ant Man to get his help.

Time-Space-Anomaly · 1 points · Posted at 09:14:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The scenes weren't directly connected.

The end of the movie has the friend telling Scott that someone's been looking for him--namely, Falcon. We don't know exactly why. Maybe he wants info on the guy who broke into an Avengers facility, maybe he wants a rematch.

The post-credit scene looks like it's taking place during Cap 3 Civil War. Cap and Falcon are discussing how they need to do something about Bucky/Winter Soldier, but they can't ask Tony for some reason, so Falcon goes, hey, I know a guy (implied to be Ant Man).

I don't think these are taking place at the same time, because Ant Man had "days" to learn how to use his suit and try and steal Yellowjacket. I can't see all the legal debates and finding Bucky and everything else in Cap 3 also taking place in a matter of days, so I'm guessing Falcon and Ant Man meet up at some point after the movie, and then, later, when Cap 3 is going on, at that point Falcon is already acquainted with Ant Man (hence, I know a guy).

Brometheus-Pound · 3 points · Posted at 02:11:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They're trying to hype Captain Falcon up so much, but I don't think getting owned by Ant-Man will help lol.

[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 02:57:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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claus7777 · 1 points · Posted at 18:01:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

2nd hit nair

FTFY, fair is the knee, only one hit (or maybe you meant soft knee?) :p

Gverreiro · 6 points · Posted at 02:18:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

It was the first time he faced him and he realized quickly that Scott could shrink

RadiantViper · 5 points · Posted at 02:54:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He did pretty good for someone fighting a brand new type of enemy. I don't think Falcon in the MCU is supposed to be a "fighting super heroes 1 on 1" type of guy anyways.

theninjataco5000 · 3 points · Posted at 02:32:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What was that very last scene (before the mid/after credits scenes) about? It was Louise describing something about falcon but I wasn't paying attention.

chris2webby · 4 points · Posted at 02:34:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

he was saying that Falcon was interested in Antman joining the Avengers. Then Scott said "what did he say?!" and the guy goes "YES!!"

theninjataco5000 · 1 points · Posted at 03:20:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thank ya

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 02:33:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Falcon was just trying to find Scott. Also, I loved that Anna Akana was in it (YouTuber and ex-girlfriend of Ray William Johnson).

NateDizzle312 · 3 points · Posted at 02:39:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can anyone explain the last scene before the credits for me please, the one with Anna Akana. I was too busy laughing and catching that Spider-Man easter egg :(

homeboi808 · 3 points · Posted at 02:47:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Basically, Falcon was asking if Akana's character knew Scott.

architrave · 3 points · Posted at 03:31:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can anyone confirm what Michael Pena was saying at the end of the movie? I got lost in the story he was telling, the one with Falcon and the reporter.

walker10837 · 5 points · Posted at 04:29:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Falcon went to the reporter to ask if she knows about any special people, she says yes and drops a HUGE Spidey reference. Falcon says "No, I'm looking for a guy that shrinks" meaning the Avengers are looking for Lang

The_Essential_Thrust · 3 points · Posted at 05:28:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What happened to that one Hydra guy who took the yellow Pym particles? Did he get in the helicopter and die as well?

RadiantViper · 6 points · Posted at 07:06:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

No, I think he ran off and we don't see him again. Bit of a sequel hook.

The_Essential_Thrust · 3 points · Posted at 07:36:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ah thank you. It was bothering me afterwards that i couldn't remember what happened to him.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 07:38:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Paul Rudd is in maximum Paul Rudd-mode for this movie. and it's perfect. he carries the tone of the movie so well.

i loved it... there's a small part of me though that wonders what this movie would have been like if edgar wright had ended up making it.

SunflowerSamurai_ · 3 points · Posted at 08:00:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought it was great. I don't wanna say that every good part of the movie was thanks to Edgar Wright, but some of those visual shots/gags were definitely his style, or at least his influence.

Justanothercrow421 · 3 points · Posted at 08:10:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Definitely my favorite Marvel film released so far. It had character, and story and fun thrills. This was an unexpected surprise from a film with a troubled development. I can't wait to see Ant-Man's next adventure.

MrRedorBlue · 3 points · Posted at 09:34:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was a fun movie. Right amount of comedy. Really cool action. Interesting use of shrinking and growing. Love the cameos and after credits scene. Overall not a great movie but a good, fun movie

MartelFirst · 3 points · Posted at 10:46:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Since a device was used to make things bigger, I was almost certain that in some sort of unexpected twist Ant-Man would defeat Yellowjacket somehow by making himself bigger.

But the subatomic scene was awesome. Really a highlight.

Enjoyable film, however like for most Marvel films, I thought it was oddly paced and somewhat stale.

sliktuc · 2 points · Posted at 16:59:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

You're referring to when Ant-Man from the comics becomes Giant-Man. This is definitely going to happen in the MCU in the future, so strap in and get patient.

RedditIsAShitehole · 3 points · Posted at 13:45:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wait, I'm just out from seeing it. A few of us were waiting for the end of the credits when the cinema workers came in and said there were none. Are you saying there was? I may go back and murder the workers if this was the case.

(Just to note I saw the mid-credits scene)

rbarton812 · 10 points · Posted at 15:20:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Absolutely a scene at the very end after the credits... whoever told you to leave is an asshole.

chris2webby · 7 points · Posted at 13:50:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

yep, there was 1 more scene after the credits. Go demand your money back!

Furoan · 3 points · Posted at 14:08:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just saw this earlier this afternoon. A very fun movie. I think Scott's friend (Luis?) was the best part of it. He was hilarious.

The one thing I did like was the Villain's knowing who Scott was. IT was logical.

I do think that while the Villain made sense, there wasn't enough scenes on the movie to establish WHY he was evil other than 'the particle gets to your mind'.

I wans't really happy with bringing Hydra back but I guess it kind of makes sense, especially in the lead-up to Civil War.

I wish there was more focus (other than one or two scenes) that focused on Scott's masters of Engineering. I felt that was kind of under utilized other than to talk about the regulator.

Z1NCsauc1er · 3 points · Posted at 15:24:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Peña was was my favourite part of that movie......Back it up.....

Jam-Master-Jay · 3 points · Posted at 17:37:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really enjoyed this. Had some genuinely funny moments and none of the humour felt forced.

The switches between the small-and-normal-sized worlds during the action sequences was brilliantly done. The briefcase and bedroom scenes were particular highlights.

Anthony! :(

your_mind_aches · 3 points · Posted at 17:49:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Absolutely loved it. It was such an amazing movie. Going to see it again today!

TommyGunn76 · 3 points · Posted at 18:03:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Really enjoyed it. The appearance from Falcon and the post credits sequence on top of the Spider-Man reference have got me real excited for the future movies.

I think this movie is going to do well, just not blockbuster numbers like GOTG did.

bionix90 · 3 points · Posted at 20:06:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I liked the movie a quite a bit. It was half a superhero movie, half a heist movie. One thing that bugged me(get it?) though was that Scott was already an agile and fit thief and it still took him a while to get used to the suit with some help from Hank and Hope.

Darren Cross on the other hand is a scientist and a businessman and even if he personally designed the Yellowjacket suit, why is he so good at operating it, especially with the new rules a smaller size imposes that you can't possibly train for unless you can shrink?

PenXSword · 1 points · Posted at 04:12:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

My guess? Like the Iron Monger, he had it tricked out with computer assist for targeting and flight, and probably has an auto-regulator to better control the size changes and adapt them to combat. It's one serious piece of tech, and we would probably have gotten a better look at it if not for the production troubles of the movie. If they had a few more months, we probably would have seen Cross using the prototype at full size. Technology he could shrink down no problem, but without getting the formula right he couldn't shrink organics. And nobody would be interested in a weaker version of Iron Man.

chardeemac · 1 points · Posted at 08:15:41 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Could have trained in it while it was full size perhaps

Meerel · 3 points · Posted at 22:03:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

this movie is AWESOME

svrtngr · 3 points · Posted at 23:44:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Outside of the Easter Eggs, my favorite detail was when Scott was like "So, let's just call the Avengers" and Hank shuts him down.

chris2webby · 1 points · Posted at 00:22:35 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wonder how Pym will feel about Scott joining The Avengers then in future films?

HurryforCurry · 3 points · Posted at 02:53:01 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Peña was hilarious, and that spider man reference got me very hyped.

GamingTatertot · 3 points · Posted at 03:43:36 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Apparently the reference wasn't even intentional since it was written before the deal. I call bullshit on the non-intentional part though.

Durbstep123 · 3 points · Posted at 05:20:43 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I need Michael Peña's last lines word for word. That was so great.

GamingTatertot · 4 points · Posted at 12:22:41 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I just need all of Michael Pena's dialogue word for word. Dude was hilarious

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 08:20:49 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

When I was young, I read Ant-Man because he could shrink and grow and it looked pretty cool and I was riding that "Honey I Shrunk the Kids" phase in my youth. Then I reread these stories as an adult with a change of heart in how I understood its canon. My newfound opinions at the time were that while it was Ant-Man who changed physically, it was Hank Pym who changed on an emotional level. Scott Lang was cool and all, but Hank's stories blew my mind.

My perfect Ant-Man on screen production would be a 6-season-long Netflix saga dedicating two seasons to each Ant-Man, everything from their highs and lows to who they eventually become as heroes and individuals.

I saw this film last night and I'm glad a new generation gets to see this character. It turned out great and I like that they kept a lot of Edgar Wright's humor in tact. it was a fun ride and I enjoyed every second of it. I felt like I was young again as I flipped through the comics to find just one more tale to astonish!

Volcarite · 3 points · Posted at 09:11:54 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved this movie! Anna Akana and Stan Lee surprised me at the end. I should have expected a Stan Lee cameo, though.

LuminaTitan · 3 points · Posted at 12:03:39 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

3rd movie in recent memory (Interstellar, Big Hero 6, Ant-Man) that has this recurring yet interesting sub-plot of attempting to reach out or connect to a daughter (between the spaces) through hyperspace.

I thought Ant-Man portrayed it exceptionally well though, with Douglass's character struggling to reconnect a severed relationship with his daughter--the inner workings of the unseeable conflict in his mind, reflected and externalized through the visual drama of Paul Rudd's character traveling between the spaces in order to save his daughter. The supposed impossibility of visualizing the mysterious and invisible workings of the inner mind manifested in an externalized or reflected metaphor of outer reality.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 14:24:43 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Am i the only one who thinks Hope might go for the affirmative universe villain route? She was so insistent on everything the entire movie being her, and when she was eventually shown the suit at the end her facial expression seemed just a little too excited and almost sinister...

[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 14:36:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Most comic versions of her are villains actually.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:32:49 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wouldn't mind. She would definitely make for an interesting villain.

I'm just sad we won't see happy, preppy, peppy optimistic Janet with the Avengers.

deadlykeyboard · 3 points · Posted at 16:12:43 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can someone post the last exchange between Luis and Scott? The one where Luis talks about how he got the tip about the Avengers wanting him to join?

I was laughing too hard to actually catch what he was saying.

coolgaara · 3 points · Posted at 19:16:55 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was not that super excited for Antman, especially after watching Avengers 2 (which I loved!). I was like it's probably not that big and it's supposed to close out Phase 2, it'll probably a nice break. But no, it was better. I started to have more expectations for it when all the early reviews seem to praise it. So I was like or this must be like the Guardians of the Galaxy. And I love how everything is really connecting piece by piece. It just keeps getting better and better.

mister_jarvis · 3 points · Posted at 22:20:18 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really enjoyed it, surprisingly so. I figured it would be good, but I didn't expect it to hit the feels as hard as it did. There was something about the Scott/Cassie-dynamic that just tugged at my heartstrings. I liked what someone else said below about how this was less "save the world" and more "to rebuild my life with my daughter."

TravT0uchdwn · 3 points · Posted at 22:55:00 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Does anyone have a screenshot of the sub atomic scene where there may or may not be a doctor strange easter egg

BigTaker · 1 points · Posted at 01:02:55 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

What's the Doctor Strange easter egg?

TravT0uchdwn · 1 points · Posted at 05:35:22 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's what I'm wondering. I've seen it brought up once or twice in this thread.

BigTaker · 1 points · Posted at 05:37:13 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I read through and I saw mention that people had seen something during the Microverse segment, a silhouette of someone.

Kii_and_lock · 3 points · Posted at 00:29:11 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

This was a very fun movie. I went in not expecting much. I left grinning like a loon. Especially loved Pym. Douglas had real fun. Hell they all did.

Morningsun92 · 3 points · Posted at 02:12:55 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

the dc and marvel universe cross over!Dude from dark knight who wears rachel's name tag is the tech dude.

DoIsoundlikeahorse · 3 points · Posted at 02:31:22 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did anyone else notice Yellow Jacket's suit making Star Wars sounds?

3/5 would watch one more time.

Raesong · 1 points · Posted at 04:39:17 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I did too, not sure if I was the only one at the screening I was at who did though.

DoIsoundlikeahorse · 1 points · Posted at 05:11:15 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

You are not alone!

BigTaker · 1 points · Posted at 01:00:04 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, those laser blasts.

jacobg500 · 3 points · Posted at 02:47:38 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't know if anyone asked this or not, but how would he still be able to hear his daughter's voice if he was a subatomic partical? Wouldn't the sound be too incredible or the waves too elongated for his ears to properly translate it? Loved the movie!

zetraex · 5 points · Posted at 14:57:00 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Because love. Just like in Interstellar.

BigTaker · 3 points · Posted at 00:59:42 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Seems like the laws of reality change at that level. It could very well be that his mind was influencing it in a "quantum observance."

May very well be that he was touching into the magic/mysticism side of the MCU.

prophetofgreed · 1 points · Posted at 11:50:27 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I saw it as what his mind was thinking when he was getting overwhelmed by what he was seeing becoming sub atomic.

Like it was said after, Scott didn't remember his time in the sub atomic realm when he returned.

kingdw · -4 points · Posted at 03:23:00 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Lol why are you thinking this way it's just a movie??

jacobg500 · 3 points · Posted at 04:19:13 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Because I love movies and I love the science behind things. Especially time travel. The microverse has interested me as well. Watch it again and notice how the rat sounds. If he can hear a booming monster rat voice, why is the daughter's normal?

kingdw · -1 points · Posted at 10:43:24 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Two different scenarios and if you're being so precise you would know that. :-/

suss2it · 3 points · Posted at 04:58:37 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

If Darren Cross new Hope was at Pym's house when he went to kill him, why did he call her and tell her about the security updates after that? Or am I misremembering that sequence of events?

zetraex · 3 points · Posted at 14:54:54 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

To ensure they go ahead with their plan, leading to Ant-Man's capture.

suss2it · 1 points · Posted at 00:14:58 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Since that's where the Yellowjacket suit was the whole time wouldn't have Scott ended up in their anyway?

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 11:28:43 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Because that led to Scott being trapped

suss2it · 1 points · Posted at 14:13:56 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why did he need Scott to know he increased security to trap him tho?

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 14:16:15 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Making him go in that one way

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 11:51:26 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's more like, before that he was questioning the ant man suit and after that it confirmed that he needed to double down so that wouldn't stand any chance. It went from 40% success to 0% success.

under_lord · 3 points · Posted at 05:18:08 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Favorite Stan Lee cameo yet

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 07:01:14 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

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DeeBased · 1 points · Posted at 23:27:59 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Haha. Every time I hear or see Paul Rudd I think of that scene! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W3NERMKIBM

Luckygunslinger · 3 points · Posted at 09:53:37 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Scott what's wrong?"

"It's the falcon!"

Calhalen · 3 points · Posted at 21:19:24 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did not expect Michael pena to be so fucking funny. Laughed at nearly everything he said. "Im sorry I can't hear you, there's a tank!" Or whatever the line was; too good

Vlinux · 3 points · Posted at 03:52:02 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Favorite lines:

"That's a messed up looking dog!"

and

"It's not a keychain..."

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 05:11:19 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

"We got a ... Tank"

whoami4546 · 3 points · Posted at 04:37:59 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

Someone please tell me why they fried the servers if they were only going to blow up the building afterwards?"

rockchalk88 · 1 points · Posted at 23:49:56 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

Good question but perhaps they were concerned about Cross trying to steal the data before evacuating/knowing that Ant-Man was there.

Also, is it possible that it fried data stored "in the cloud"?

whoami4546 · 1 points · Posted at 23:59:55 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

given how they set the bomb to go on a countdown. Do you think they were concerned about the bad guys leaving the building alive?

Were they concerned about any causalities?

rockchalk88 · 1 points · Posted at 08:22:26 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

Good question. I'm not sure. They never really discussed the explosives in the movie, did they? I thought it was all about just destroying the research/data more than anything.

Michael Pena's character seems concerned about getting that one security guard out alive, so he appears to have a moral compass that doesn't include killing people. But I'm assuming the security guard wasn't really a bad guy.

mutually_awkward · 3 points · Posted at 01:09:09 on July 27, 2015 · (Permalink)

This movie was such a good time. ~ Antony forever ~

EarnestQuestion · 3 points · Posted at 03:35:23 on July 28, 2015 · (Permalink)

I had a question I haven't seen addressed here, hopefully someone can help.

Scott told Hank that he didn't remember being subatomic or what happened. Was he lying? It seemed like he was, but I couldn't figure out why he would. Just to keep Hank from longing over his wife?

bryguy894 · 1 points · Posted at 21:22:47 on July 31, 2015 · (Permalink)

Right? I justified it as exiting the sub atomic phase did a memory wipe of the timeless "time" spent there. It'd be funny if it comes into play next time we see ant man

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 12:29:06 on November 7, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Pena is One Punch Man

gatsby365 · 9 points · Posted at 04:49:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

SPOILER HEAVY

I can't be the only one hoping that when Pym meets the Winter Soldier (to fix his arm) - PYM STARTS WAILING ON HIM FOR LAUNCHING THE NUKE THAT KILLED HIS WIFE

I refuse to be the only one who needs this to happen.

I also need a Giant Michael Douglas in my life. When they made a Giant Ant I realized some day we will see someone embiggened for a noble cause.

Griffdude13 · 8 points · Posted at 20:19:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ant-Man has a higher rating than Age of Ultron on rottentomatoes. Didn't see that one coming...

RadiantViper · 10 points · Posted at 22:33:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I can believe that, I honestly had more fun with Ant-Man. Plus it's a case of Avengers 2 being hyped to high hell so it was harder for it to deliver, whereas Ant-Man had some people dissing it before it was out so it managed to be a pleasant surprise.

NeilPoonHandler · 4 points · Posted at 02:34:39 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Ant-Man is soooo much more fun than Age of Ultron (which I liked)- this movie is on a whole other level. The amount of laughter in my theater was unlike anything I have seen before for a Marvel movie, so I think word-of-mouth will be superb.

intothemidwest · 12 points · Posted at 18:31:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I feel like I'm in the serious minority here, but here goes.

I wanted to be pleasantly surprised by it, I really did. And in the first 15 minutes when there wasn't much narrative, it was genuinely super funny. Paul Rudd is incredible at improv and it showed. But man the movie really fell apart after that for me. Seeing Edgar Wright's hands all over this movie but without his directorial voice was a huge bummer. The rewrites felt like they just had every character narrate their thoughts to the audience. "I have a daughter..." repeatedly/"I'm done! I'm out of the game..." repeatedly, or "I have to shrink between the molecules" during the climax. Him physically writing out "377 days till I get to see Cassie." "Become the hero your daughter deserves (etc) (etc)." I felt like I was constantly being talked at to make sure I understood. It felt so...clunky.

Characters were a mess. Scott Lang was cool and believable, but beyond that it really went south. Worst of all was Darren Cross. He was a psychopath with no note other than "conniving and evil." He was so entirely void of compassion of any kind, even some warped kind that many of the best villains have, that I didn't care at all about him.

He brings me to the narrative lapses...He murdered a co-worker! No one is going to investigate this at all? Really? Then Hank Pym used the suit in actual combat, and there is documented footage of soldiers being taken out by a tiny man, and somehow all of this was kept under wraps, even by the soldiers that he took out? Hank was willing to blow up all his life's work? And how did Cross have such a strong grasp on using and fighting in the yellowjacket suit? He had never been shrunk down before until the climactic fight. It was just really sloppy and distracting, which was uncharacteristic for Marvel, for the most part.

Then the direction: sure, Thomas getting huge and the subatomic verse were cool and really inventive, but they were already in the script. I just feel like Peyton Reed knew how to make energetic scenes but there was nothing stand-out about anything he did. The punch outs from the ant-sized fights to show how inconsequential they were were funny, but he just kept banking on them and never was building or changing anything. Edgar Wright is incredible with repeated jokes that keep getting funnier and this was severely missed here.

So I dunno, it was sort of entertaining, but it just had so many issues that I could never really get into it. Paul Rudd's casting was excellent though, so I hope he's given a better movie to work with in the future.

TL;DR - Funny improv when it happened, and it was nice not seeing buildings get toppled again, but the direction was pretty generic, the characters besides Lang and Pym were pretty weak (especially the villain), and there were a ton of plot holes/logic gaps that got in the way of things.

yungtatha · 6 points · Posted at 02:21:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

How good is Greg Turkington in it? This is literally all I care about.

homeboi808 · 5 points · Posted at 02:26:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Really good. He's in it for <5 minutes, but he made my whole theater laugh, not a huge burst out type laugher, but good enough.

yungtatha · 2 points · Posted at 02:29:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thank you that's more than enough for me to go see it.

MrPublicDomain · 4 points · Posted at 03:08:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think he's going to be getting a call from Oscar

colin_creevey · 2 points · Posted at 08:31:49 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oscer

Widan · 5 points · Posted at 02:52:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's kind of fucked up that Hank knew the consequences of the constant shrinking, even after they affected him, but he still encourages Scott to use the suit. I know the motive was important, but it's weird that he almost neglects the negative effects and is going to continue letting Scott use the suit after.

hypocaffeinemia · 7 points · Posted at 11:18:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What I inferred is that the years of experimenting with the Pym particles directly led to problems and not the use of the suit itself. It was pretty far down the R&D process that he had the bright idea that constant exposure to them might be a cause of concern.

I'd say that's really stupid for someone supposedly so smart, but real life is full of brilliant scientists doing dumb things (see: Demon core).

deadlast · 3 points · Posted at 03:34:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, he's got a few years of superhero in him before crazy. Why not?

Widan · 3 points · Posted at 03:50:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wonder how long it took Darren to go crazy.

axcairns · 5 points · Posted at 05:54:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Darren's formula was not quite right until very late. Possibly his formula was more damaging mentally? Of course it could also be that he was starting from a not so stable start point.

roguepawn · 4 points · Posted at 06:18:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They also mentioned that Pym's helmet was specifically designed to counter/delay the effects on the brain, IIRC.

Dart06 · 2 points · Posted at 05:57:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I kind of felt like Hank was trying to imply he stayed in the suit for a very long period of time. Hank only does it for minutes at a time or less.

SteveBob316 · 1 points · Posted at 21:23:02 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't think he was talking about physical consequences. Hank Pym is an extremely flawed person, the loss of Janet could only exacerbate this, and in his age he knows himself well enough to know that using the suit would lead him down a path he doesn't want to go down. I think the exact words were "it took a toll."

Edit: Sorry for replying days later, I only just got to see it.

HardcoreHazza · 5 points · Posted at 03:16:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I notice a fare bit of Edgar Wright's part in the writing which was nice.

E.g. "I know a guy...."

Reminded me of: "...Go to the Winchester, have a pint & wait for this whole thing to blow over".

aces08 · 6 points · Posted at 04:36:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Movie gets an A from me. From Michael Pena to "That's not a key" chain, the movie was fun all the way through. It reminded me of Guardians with just a little less 'love' from the creators. Just a little bit.

ajh6288 · 6 points · Posted at 05:46:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can someone describe the second post credit sequence, including the dialog. I saw it, but I had trouble hearing the dialog.

Please and thank you.

RadiantViper · 11 points · Posted at 07:24:09 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Falcon: Hey Cap!

(Falcon and Captain America walk into a room where Bucky "The Winter Soldier" Barnes is sitting with his arm caught in some sort of vice)

Falcon: This would have been a lot easier a week ago.

Cap: If we call Tony ...

Falcon: He won't believe us.

Cap: Even if he did -

Falcon: Who knows if the accords will let him help.

Cap: We're on our own.

Falcon: Maybe not. (pause) I know a guy.

(ANTMAN WILL RETURN appears on screen)

Dookie_boy · 2 points · Posted at 15:50:38 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Aw yiss

Thank you !

ajh6288 · 2 points · Posted at 20:40:19 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

my sincerest thank you

I guess there's at least some context needed from the movie (I've read the comic so I get the gist.)

Alpacallama · 4 points · Posted at 06:26:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think Ant-Man is one of the most innovative and fresh movies Marvel has put out. The action and overall execution of this movie is great with many funny, exciting, and electrifying parts, Jumping from the tiny moments to the big with very much ease, and even both crossing paths. I actually really bought a lot of the relationships and they felt real to me.

Even though some dialogue and jokes don’t land right and the villain is typically Marvel character-less, This movie is a ton of fun and overall a blast.

Honestly, as someone who hasn't been that big a fan of most Marvel movies, Ant-Man does more than fill the shoes left by those bigger than him, he steals them and buys bigger shoes.

KidDBrock · 5 points · Posted at 07:21:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Immediate post credit sequence was great just to get official confirmation that there will be an Ant-Man and Wasp in the MCU. But the real stinger? There was a lot going on in that scene! Civil War setup baby! That movie is going to be insane!

Homeschooled316 · 5 points · Posted at 08:38:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Best scene in the movie

sw33n3y · 5 points · Posted at 11:29:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Despite how one-dimensional Darren Cross was, Corey Stoll played him pretty damn well.

Edit: Also, that Garden Gnome wants to be painted like your french girls.

Frozen_Canadian · 6 points · Posted at 19:14:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

/r/thomasthedankengine must be really happy

NeilPoonHandler · 4 points · Posted at 02:30:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

This movie is fucking awesome and HILARIOUS. It's definitely one of my top three favorite Marvel movies now (behind Captain America: The Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy). The cast is fantastic, the action/heist sequences are loads of fun, and there is so much great dialogue and funny moments. It's so much goddamn fun. I have not seen a theater audience this engaged in a movie (or laughing this hard) in ages.

I can't wait to see it for a second (and possibly third) time at the theater in the coming weeks - it's that fucking good.

slates-R-us · 5 points · Posted at 13:32:05 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was talking to a friend about this film with a friend and he said that Edgar Wright is in a great position because if the film is bad, everyone is going to say Wright's film would have been better and if the film's good everyone'll say it's because of Wright's influence.
I really enjoyed the film but there were some bits in it where I could see what they were trying to go for, but it didn't do anything for me, like some of the banter between Scott's crime buddies (except from Michael Pena).
Still don't know what to think of the Falcon sequence. I like any reference to a bigger universe and it's something that would totally happen in a comic book but it felt a bit like 'who's the cheapest guy we can get'. Don't get me wrong, it's still a great sequence.
The film was probably pitched as a heist movie and while we see some (and they were great) it didn't feel like a heist movie. In my opinion they were trying to get too many comic book movie tropes in there: the evil scientist who's working on evil technology and eventually fights the hero.
Which brings me to the villain: if it wasn't enough to show a 'we have absolutely terrifying evil technology' commercial we see him liquidize a guy in the toilet, and if that's not enough let's make him kill a little lamb. I get that he was 'affected' by the Pym particles and driven crazy but he was a bit too over the top evil. Why did he suddenly have such a grudge with Scott that he went to threaten his daughter? Is it because she was the only connection to Scott he knew off? (Did anyone else think he resembled Keegan-Michael Key?)
That said the whole new world opened by shrinking technology is awesome. That fight scene in the toy room was amazing and any scene where he's taking out guys by shrinking/becoming bigger was really cool.
On the one picture with Janet her face was obviously obscured by her hat, I guess they don't want to commit to anyone yet. It's said that the quantum world doesn't have normal time, so she might come out looking like she did in the 80s (which would be very par for the course of Hollywood not wanting to cast women over 40).
And that post credits scene made me psyched for Civil War!

7piecechicken · 5 points · Posted at 15:59:27 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really enjoyed the movie. But I believe I found a bit of a plot hole. The tech behind the suit is described as reducing the space between atoms. The atoms themselves don't shrink. If that's the case, how could they go subatomic or smaller than atoms? According to the science in this universe, there would be a limit to how small they could get. That limit would be the atomic level.

scrognog_gutentag · 3 points · Posted at 17:35:03 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

There is a panel of one of the Ant-Man comics (I can't seem to find at the moment), where Ant-Man is sitting on an atom and someone he's with looks at him and asks "If we're smaller than oxygen atoms, how are we even breathing right now?" and Ant-Man just sort of shrugs it off, basically answering questions like yours with a big "Ummm, idk?"

prophetofgreed · 2 points · Posted at 17:53:37 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Maybe once the shrinking happens it starts a chain reaction to the process and cannot be stopped.

Your right though, the mechanics of the microverse has always been flimsy.

7piecechicken · 2 points · Posted at 20:06:24 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

But since the cause for shrinking is just reducing the space between the atoms, then the chain reaction would only continue until there was no space between the atoms. I assume at that point they would just like implode the entire universe and cause another Big Bang or something.

Did I just prove the multiverse theory?

DudeWynaut · 3 points · Posted at 16:55:24 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's a movie based on a comic book

7piecechicken · 7 points · Posted at 17:21:19 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Of course. And I did enjoy it. But it's still a plot hole based on the rules they set in that universe.

neoblackdragon · -1 points · Posted at 01:09:23 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

The universe of giant green rage monsters and gods with hammers that can only be picked up by the worthy?

You could also chalk it up to the limits of human science. Remember much of it is theory.

7piecechicken · 3 points · Posted at 01:48:19 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I get that. What makes it a plot hole is that they broke rules that they set in their universe. In this universe, miniaturization is possible because they have figured out how to shrink the space between atoms. That means they can't get smaller than atoms. If they said that miniaturization is possible because they have learned how to shrink atoms it wouldn't be a plot hole.

SteveBob316 · 2 points · Posted at 21:28:53 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

If it helps, that whole explanation was given to someone who, while educated, isn't at the cutting edge of theoretical physics. It's like teaching a model, like when we all learned about atoms in school - the models are all profoundly wrong, but they're still useful so we use them.

It's entirely possible that whatever the tech actually does mimics or actually produces the effect of what he said, and for 99.762% of all cases what he said is true enough to work.

DudeWynaut · -1 points · Posted at 06:42:02 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

You don't have to like it if you don't want to.

PapaBrice · 6 points · Posted at 13:05:04 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really liked it, thought the action scenes were great. However I hated the pacing. The whole movie felt rushed and nothing developed with any flow. They could have had a 5 min scene to Pym taking on and rejecting Cross as an apprentice to develop him more (Instead of: Oh here is the bad guy randomly). They could have shown Hope being sent to off to school. And they could have just let scenes rest for a second. Even the dialogue was about rushing the scenes. Pym and Hope make up...Scott has a joke that kills the moment, but only after the moment lasted a second.

young__sandwich · 2 points · Posted at 13:46:03 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Huh I actually thought the exact opposite. Especially after the rushed and sloppy movie that was AoU I thought antman was a much better over all film with good pacing and humor to match.

PapaBrice · 1 points · Posted at 14:14:53 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well again I really like the movie, just think they could gave taken a moment to develop the scenes more. Every scene felt a minute or two short/rushed. Or complete scenes were missing from the plot.

FOEGames · 6 points · Posted at 14:05:41 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

baskinrobbinsalwaysfindsout

Powertrippin22 · 24 points · Posted at 03:32:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well looks like I'm gonna stick out like a sore thumb, I thought this movie was a solid "meh". So many pointless, carbon-copy trope-y cliches really bogged it down. I mean, it's not a BAD movie...just really cookie cutter.

Stuff like "I didn't tell you about your mother to protect you". Protect her from what? I rolled my eyes so hard they almost fell outta my head. And why were they kissing at the end? I'm not great with my movie review lingo, but "meh" is the only thought and emotion that comes to mind when I think about Ant Man.

But Paul Rudd was great and I really enjoyed his friends. All of them were the highlight of the movie. Some of the action was cool, a lot of the best stuff was already seen in the trailers, but still some cool scenes.

At this point it doesn't seem like Marvel can do a compelling villain. This is the 12th film in the MCU and not one absolute thrilling antagonist. And any chance of there being one is ruined because they keep on dying.

Anyway, cool movie if you're into the MCU and you'll probably wanna check it out. I'm sure there will be plenty of praise for it and that doesn't bother me, different strokes, but I found it flat and boring for majority of the time. It's only saved by sporadic humor from Rudd and his buddies and some neat action shots.

I give it 6 Antony's out of 10. Unique premise with lots of imaginative potential but plays it way too safe for majority of the movie, only really shining during the final act.

kekekefear · 9 points · Posted at 16:16:06 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Totally agree with you. I quite enjoyed it, but everything except humor and few action scenes was as safe and generic as posible. And i think with Writght this could be one of the best superhero films ever, but instead we get same thing as usual.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 02:01:42 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I totally agree with you. The entire time I was either chuckling at the jokes that were actually good, rolling my eyes, or bored because I knew everything that was going to happen.

That said most everyone here seemed to have had a good time watching it and I don't want to rain on that. That's cool. I'm just glad I'm not the one insane person who was underwhelmed by the whole thing.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:40:02 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Protect her from what?

Didn't want to inspire his daughter to do crazy dangerous science stuff by putting on the suit.

And why were they kissing at the end?

Mostly tropes, you're right. But also adrenaline and sexual repression. Also they're both hot.

At this point it doesn't seem like Marvel can do a compelling villain

Yeah... they don't have access to a lot of their good ones because of film rights. But you're right, that's no excuse.

not one absolute thrilling antagonist

I can't think of too many 'thrilling antagonists'. Joker in the Dark Knight... Maybe Doctor Octopus in Spider-Man 2. But even all the other villains like Ra's and Bane and Zod are above average. So you're not wrong.

but I found it flat and boring for majority of the time

: /

Powertrippin22 · 6 points · Posted at 01:21:16 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah good point, I guess the phrase "I did it to protect you" is just so vague and overdone. Would have been nice to get something a bit more raw and real than that line.

suss2it · 1 points · Posted at 04:27:45 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't think a villain dying at the end has any bearing on how thrilling he is. Bane and Zod are an example of that. Hell so is Joker in TDK because even tho he didn't die he never appeared again.

Powertrippin22 · 3 points · Posted at 11:47:42 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not really my point. What I mean is that any chance of them developing into nuanced characters is null and void because they usually end up biting the dust.

suss2it · 1 points · Posted at 14:16:25 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

My point is they shouldn't need a sequel for that.

PhilConnorsRemembers · -2 points · Posted at 07:39:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'd argue Loki is quite the compelling villain. And is still alive.

Powertrippin22 · 5 points · Posted at 08:19:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, good point but one out of twelve still isn't that great of a track record. I'm not a huge fan of Loki myself, but at least they're treating one villain with some respect so I can dig it.

PabloNueve · 2 points · Posted at 20:57:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Part of that is because the "best" Marvel villains are currently held by Fox and Sony. Meaning outside of Loki and Thanos, Marvel doesn't have a lot of big name characters to work with. It'd be great if they could have Magneto, Doom, Doc Ock, and Norman Osbourn.

suss2it · 1 points · Posted at 04:26:44 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

They actually do have the latter two now tho. That being said they still had Red Skull, Malekith and Ronan who are all more complex and darker characters in the comics and the movies didn't even scratch the surface with any of them.

PabloNueve · 2 points · Posted at 04:43:28 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Red Skull fit within the style and tone of CA:TFA. It's not necessarily an excuse, but that was much more about pure good vs. pure evil.

Had Loki not been in Thor 2, I think the expectations for Malekith as a more developed bad guy would have been more reasonable.

I do wish that Ronan hadn't been portrayed that way only because he's a such a great lawful neutral character in the comics. Making him the clear bad guy took away a lot of his appeal.

[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 15:58:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well abomination is still alive and if you were to believe fan theories, Red Skull was send into space, ultron was defeated by an infinity gem and so were Ronan and Malakeith (not sure about Malakeith tho, don't remember the film that much), so when Thanos get ahold of all the gems maybe he will resurrect them.

monkeyjoe70 · 4 points · Posted at 10:10:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was some Interstellar shit at the end...

cudder17 · 5 points · Posted at 14:31:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Right?? Me and my friend went in high as fuck watching it and we're NOT expecting all that micro verse interstellar shit lol.

Cocobender · 6 points · Posted at 17:24:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Scott and Antony is still a better love story than Twilight.

NewdAccount · 7 points · Posted at 04:35:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

This movie will be either hated by critics and loved by fans or loved by critics and hated by fans or hated by critics and hated by fans or loved by critics or loved by fans. It will most likely be a blockbuster worldwide or barely make its money back from production and marketing costs. Either way it's most likely a movie and not an interactive theater dinner. I'm no Nostradamus but I'm probably right.

interp21 · 4 points · Posted at 13:25:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

wat

ribblesquat · 9 points · Posted at 02:00:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Between this and Terminator: Genysis I declare 2015 "The Year of Miraculously De-aged 80s Stars." Fortunately Ant-Man remembered to include awesome movie alongside that trick, which Terminator most definitely failed at.

black-ra1n54 · 2 points · Posted at 06:47:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I haven't seen Terminator. Is it that bad?

ribblesquat · 2 points · Posted at 12:21:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I say yes. This other guy says no.

silverpixiefly · 1 points · Posted at 02:03:57 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought it was awesome.

namesrhardtothinkof · 3 points · Posted at 08:11:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Genysis is way better than people give it credit for. Yea it weren't no classic of modern cinema, but people will look back at it in a few years and say "... Yeah, that's a pretty good movie. I'd give it like a 6/10."

Come on guys, Skynet played by Matt Smith, an actual indication that anything that happens in the movies matter, badass fight scenes everywhere. Yeah, I hated the ending, there were lots of stupid things, and 70% of Arnold's lines felt forced to the max, but that doesn't detract much from the movie. The other Terminators (including the good ones) weren't lacking in stupid shit, either.

ribblesquat · 1 points · Posted at 12:17:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I didn't like it at all. No, it's not, "Oh, they're soiling the franchise, blah, blah, blah." It was just completely lacking in tension for me. The characters were thinner than paper and the stunts/VFX were cartoonish... helicopters bounce around on the wind like they have the weight of dandelion seeds. For me, nothing that happened in the movie mattered. As much as I tried I couldn't care about anything that happened on screen. During the "badass fight scenes" I found my mind wandering to the point I asked, "How'd they get the bad guy in the trap again? Aw, who cares!"

In a word, it was boring.

VIsForVoltz2 · 2 points · Posted at 09:05:28 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

How do they bounce? HOW DO THEY BOUNCE?

Also, 5th movie, still wondering WHY DON'T THEY SEND MORE THAN 1 TERMINATOR BACK IN TIME.

idiotdidntdoit · 1 points · Posted at 17:30:01 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, young Arnold was PURELY CGI, where younger Michael D. was de-aged with CGI.

GreedE · 36 points · Posted at 01:54:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I didn't really like the movie. The first half of the movie was remarkably bland for a movie about a guy who can shrink, with a bunch of unremarkable characters. Paul Rudd, funny as he may be, is probably the least interesting protagonist of the MCU. I feel like trying to make him into leading man material you lose a lot of what makes Rudd such a presence in his comedic films. Evangeline Lily is on the sidelines for the whole movie and only purpose is to teach Ant-Man everything she can already do until he is better and then work in a forced romance at the end. The villain is perhaps the worst to date. Outside of the action scenes, the movie looks and feels generic. The story was cliche, and followed all the cliche beats (hero sacrifices himself, comes back because of his daughter's cries, etc). I was surprised at how bored I was at some stages of the movie.

What saved the movie for me however is the final action scene. They really used their imagination for the shrinking capabilities both with the action and the gags. Playing Disintegration by The Cure while fighting in a briefcase? Genius. Tank keyring? Awesome. Pet Ant? Sure, why not. It's a shame the rest of the movie wasn't as imaginative with it's story and characters as it was with it's action set pieces, or I would have enjoyed the film a lot more.

Draffut2012 · 24 points · Posted at 03:16:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The villain is perhaps the worst to date.

I thought he was pretty well done. His character made sense, unlike the complete joke that was Ultron.

black-ra1n54 · 4 points · Posted at 06:59:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah. Ulron really didn't.

I'm going to destroy the avengers!!....By wiping out innocent people and not expanding much on how this will hurt the Avengers....

Flexappeal · 1 points · Posted at 02:27:37 on August 5, 2015 · (Permalink)

yeah he's high. corey stoll knocked it out tha fuckin park

CigaretteBurn12 · 4 points · Posted at 08:50:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Agreed. I couldn't help but wonder in every scene how Edgar Wright would have handled it. So many jokes fell flat but almost felt like they had potential. Really sad he left the project.

I left the theater disappointed, really surprised at all the positive reception (kinda jealous, wish I enjoyed it).

BritishHobo · 7 points · Posted at 16:38:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

remarkably bland

Sums it up for me. Even for Marvel it was a fuckin' dry experience. Everyone's trying to hype it as an awesome hype movie, but it just hit the same beats as every Marvel movie, without anything particularly new or interesting.

The train sequence was the only inventive thing in it, and it was both completely ruined by the trailer, and over almost immediately.

CigaretteBurn12 · 5 points · Posted at 08:52:45 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The train sequence and the sequence involving Scott running through the tiny model were the only two scenes I really enjoyed. Creative and fun. The rest...bland and predictable.

vidiyan2857 · 2 points · Posted at 15:09:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The briefcase scene?

SannyK02 · 3 points · Posted at 14:07:01 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think if you're really into the MCU, you'll love this movie.I didn't catch alot of the references (I somehow missed the spiderman one, I didn't realize who Hope is irl). I found it meh, thought the pacing was pretty bad and the sub atomic part was cool but it felt way less climatic than it should have been. Also what movie has credits then a scene followed by more credits then a scene? I missed the Bucky and Falcon part because of this. Left right after the wasp suit. It also didn't help the people behind me on the theatre laughed at everything. I mean everything. Yes there were some funny parts but it wasn't THAT funny.

Widan · 6 points · Posted at 03:01:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Agreed. The main characters were fairly bland, but it was he side characters that really stood out. Scott made me grin a few times, but his friends stole the show.

Irishstyle · 3 points · Posted at 03:13:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I did like the movie, but I gotta agree with you that the first part of the movie wasn't as drawn out and that a lot felt either rushed or just lazy. (however they did somewhat address this with the "why are you telling me my life story?" when meeting the other heist buddys) I thought as the movie went along it got better and better and really shined once they got the origin story out of the way which makes me really hopeful for Ant-man along with the avengers. and Lilly and Rudd had good chemistry and will be a fun Dynamic Duo for the Avengers I can't wait to see.

--Petrichor-- · 2 points · Posted at 02:54:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved the movie, but I definitely agree that it got off to a slow start.

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 04:07:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought the villain was refreshingly real. A guy who has been "betrayed" by Pym and has had to live in Pym's shadow is out for revenge. It didn't start out as a psychotic murder plan to team up with Hydra, just a way to stick it to Pym and make a few million. But he became obsessed with being more powerful than Pym and with mind altering affects of working with Pym particles he went insane and acted as such. Better than Ronan or Malekith who were just war hungry racists basically.

BritishHobo · 2 points · Posted at 16:40:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He's selling dangerous technology to Nazis. I think people are giving too much credit to his mentor relationship with Pym - there's only so far that can stretch, and it was barely applies on-screen.

suss2it · 2 points · Posted at 03:53:11 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Especially since he killed that one exec who questioned the tech, super early into the movie.

seniorkite · 1 points · Posted at 04:16:04 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I might have to see this just for the Cure song. I cannot picture Disintegration, of all songs, playing during a superhero movie fight scene.

Sebs82 · 1 points · Posted at 07:02:15 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wow, I agree with everything you just said. Mind you I fell asleep half way for about 20min.

zackmanze · 1 points · Posted at 03:45:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Unfortunately the cure song they actually played was "Plainsong."

But yeah, pretty much.

wizards_upon_dragons · 7 points · Posted at 02:56:22 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Which is Track 1 of the album Disintegration.

zackmanze · 1 points · Posted at 09:14:31 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

: O

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Nice catch, dude! Thanks!

CigaretteBurn12 · 1 points · Posted at 08:50:42 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Agreed. I couldn't help but wonder in every scene how Edgar Wright would have handled it. So many jokes fell flat but almost felt like they had potential. Really sad he left the project.

I left the theater disappointed, really surprised at all the positive reception (kinda jealous, wish I enjoyed it).

gatsby365 · -3 points · Posted at 05:08:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

You probably work at Baskin Robbins.

mathewl832 · 13 points · Posted at 02:38:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I liked the part where he made the witty quip during the intense action scene

AlbertHummus · 1 points · Posted at 04:40:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh yeah that part

Ghidoran · 1 points · Posted at 02:52:54 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

At least it was consistent with the tone of the movie, unlike Age of Ultron...

legendariusss · 4 points · Posted at 02:05:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm a huge Marvel Fan so that might be why I get a bit frustrated with how long it took to get the intro out of the way and for the fight scenes to start. Other than that though I really enjoyed the comedy and action scenes when they occurred. Evangeline Lily didn't really hit the button for me in terms of acting, but I think that she could be a great Wasp in future Marvel Films

RustyDetective · 4 points · Posted at 04:14:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I enjoyed the Yellow Jacket pulsar beam Star Wars ATAT Walker sound effects.

EdBenner · 3 points · Posted at 04:36:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just got home from seeing it and I absolutely loved it! Great action, humor, and story everything I have come to expect from a marvel movie (with a few minor exceptions)

starcream5000 · 4 points · Posted at 04:13:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Honestly and I understand if I get some hate but man i thought this was the weakest marvel movie and a weak superhero movie in general ...

GamingTatertot · 3 points · Posted at 04:26:41 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just curious, why? I think it's one of only 5 good films Marvel has put out.

starcream5000 · -2 points · Posted at 04:54:31 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well villain was bad and didn't appear in full villain gear till the end and nothing exciting really happens until the end and the special effects did not impress me and a lot of it felt rushed and force and even the whole heist that was supposed the be the thing the movie built up to was done and went by so quickly without any real suspense ......I wanna see ant man in other marvel movies but man stand alone is just no good for him

009reloaded · 0 points · Posted at 22:23:36 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's called buildup.

starcream5000 · 2 points · Posted at 22:50:14 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yea but what it built up to/wasn't worth it...I wanted to like it

jivebeaver · 3 points · Posted at 16:59:18 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

a cute little movie, but nowhere near the quality of guardians of the galaxy in terms of no-name character movies. michael douglas carries this film like usual, but theres a few too many superhero origins tropes to stand out

Steellonewolf77 · 4 points · Posted at 23:44:59 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was kind of weird that John Slattery played Howard and not Dominic Cooper.

BigTaker · 7 points · Posted at 00:49:23 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

John Slattery played the older Stark in Iron Man 2, so they're just continuing that here.

Steellonewolf77 · 1 points · Posted at 01:38:19 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yea, but Dominic Cooper has played him in more stuff. He was in Captain America: The First Avenger, Agent Carter and a picture of him appeared in The Winter Soldier.

BigTaker · 7 points · Posted at 01:41:04 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

John Slattery is a much better fit for a 71-year old Howard Stark than Cooper is.

walkswithdeath1 · 5 points · Posted at 06:12:12 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

This is my 2nd favorite marvel movie

raofblow290 · 1 points · Posted at 21:55:54 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

this is my favorite, with guardians of the galaxy being second

TIXXER · 8 points · Posted at 01:57:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can someone explain to me why they had to screw around with the water pressure? Couldn't they just have snuck in the front door in ant mode?

Loved the movie! Guardians of the Galaxy humor plus great action and plot. MCU's still got it.

RadiantViper · 22 points · Posted at 02:51:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Scott had to use a shit ton of ants to pull off everything, with triple security someone would have noticed a bunch of bugs crawling in.

mastyrwerk · 9 points · Posted at 03:41:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They amped up security and were scanning people at the door. Cross was expecting an ant sized infiltration, what with the micro meshing on the vents and everything. They would have seen a flood of ants pouring in through the front door and would have scanned them if someone tried to carry them in.

saber1001 · 4 points · Posted at 03:17:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They mentioned scanners on every entrance, including vents

lolroflqwerty · 3 points · Posted at 04:05:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Assuming Cross knew about the whole plan, I'm guessing his security detail was told to be on the lookout for ants and other tiny objects. Plus if he was spotted, it would've drawn too much attention which is not the best thing during a heist

ChickenPlunger · 3 points · Posted at 05:07:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Heat sensors for bodies I think, kinda like how Falcon found him. Water pipes are thick and full of water so they wouldn't find him there.

TajesMahoney · 3 points · Posted at 07:48:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Believe they said there were scanners on all the doors to detect human life. Assumed that meant ant-sized humans as well.

C3L3STIALB3ING · 2 points · Posted at 05:23:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wasn't because he set up some machine that would give Scott away as soon as he tried to walk through?

PrestoMovie · 2 points · Posted at 08:38:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Body scanners at all the entrances. They would've caught that.

Swaggsandwich · 2 points · Posted at 09:02:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They couldn't sneak in because of the "added security", body scans, mesh over the vents...etc. So they decide to go through the plumbing system because "you can't put security on water"...but normally the pressure is too high to ride in smoothly and make their exit. Lowering the pressure allowed Ant Man to cruise in on the ant raft and get in safely.

Also loved the movie!

Justwantsomelove25 · 8 points · Posted at 18:42:49 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Here's a meme I made from Michael Peña's character after watching the film http://www.livememe.com/3izajk1

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 22:28:35 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nice meme

raofblow290 · 0 points · Posted at 22:01:15 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

*dank meme you mean? I mean mene

junkifan · 6 points · Posted at 01:55:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

The after credits scene kicked ass

hMJem · 7 points · Posted at 05:34:39 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)*

76% and 65/100 ratings?

Am I crazy? I easily enjoyed Ant Man more than Avengers 2. I thought it was a great movie. Some serious moments, a lot of funny moments that weren't as forced as the Avengers 2 comedic lines. I enjoyed the three guys who were incorporated back into the movie because they were funny, especially the Mexican friend. Just an overall really good movie to me. In my world, 76% is a C and 65/100 is a D. I can easily go B+/A- for Ant Man.

aces08 · 4 points · Posted at 06:15:07 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Critics butt hurt about Wright situation. The movie was in fact a good movie despite this.

shaneo632 · 3 points · Posted at 20:46:10 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

TIL 76% is a bad rating.

Wolfhoof · 2 points · Posted at 01:34:52 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

People trust ratings way too much.If it isn't 100% it's shit. People are retarded.

hMJem · 0 points · Posted at 23:02:11 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm not a movie buff, but 76 out of 100 when I went to school would be a C. As in, mediocre. I don't think Ant Man was mediocre. Out of 100, I could give it a 89-93

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 00:24:09 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)*

A test in school is testing your overall knowledge of the material. If you're trying to learn algebra and only have a decent grasp of 70% of the material, that is pretty awful (or at least mediocre). A review of a movie is something totally different. A 5 should be considered totally, unremarkably average and go from there. A 7.6/10 or a 76/100 should be well above average. Unfortunately, reviews nowadays are so oversaturated with good ones that if a movie doesn't get at least an 8 or 9/10 it gets dismissed as awful.

shaneo632 · 1 points · Posted at 23:14:12 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

American schools have weird grading systems though.

76/100 is a very solid score.

taylorswiftfan123 · 0 points · Posted at 00:56:25 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's almost like movies are subjective and some people might like something more or less than you do! Wow, amazing!

taylorswiftfan123 · 6 points · Posted at 00:58:47 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

DAE critics are all part of a huge conspiracy because they don't like the same film as much as I do? DAE all critics are so weak and petty they dislike a movie just cause of the director, as opposed to all the perfectly valid criticisms they present in their professionally written articles?

d4rkwing · -1 points · Posted at 18:50:10 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was a great movie. I don't understand why so many think it could have been better with more Wright.

aces08 · 0 points · Posted at 19:06:17 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's the critics world for you.

JTNJ32 · 6 points · Posted at 01:56:31 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

How the hell did they keep Anthony Mackie a secret this whole time? That was so great.

chris2webby · 2 points · Posted at 02:09:27 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

he was shown in some of the TV commercials

JTNJ32 · 2 points · Posted at 02:19:21 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thank God I didn't watch them.

suss2it · 1 points · Posted at 04:51:38 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Marvel even posted it on their YouTube channel.

T4Gx · 4 points · Posted at 14:28:32 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not from America but I found it to be a bitch move that the mom was still asking for child support when they look to be very capable and she's about to re-marry. Is that really how it works in America?

Foxhack · 11 points · Posted at 15:38:03 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes, that's how it is over there and some other countries.

Just because the parent taking care of the child is going to get remarried doesn't mean the other parent is exempt from his or her duties as a parent (either financially or otherwise.) They have to help out with money; though sometimes, child support payments can be reduced, depending on the case.

goldbergenstein · 3 points · Posted at 15:27:03 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I dunno, I think a lot of that was about making sure he was responsible enough to not go back to crime.

CaptainDawn · 10 points · Posted at 02:23:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

No spoilers

Ant Man is a victim of it's troubled production, it plays out like a superhero film from 10 years ago because it is a superhero film from 10 years ago. Remember how in the original Iron Man, Tony spent the entire film building and mastering his suit so he can become Iron Man in the last 30 mins and fight a villain who dons his outfit in the last 10 mins? Yeah that happens here and it's unacceptable by today's standards for comic book films. Ant Man is exposition up until the last 40 mins where they pull off the big heist. People from the industry have been praising Edgar Wright's original script but it would have been better to toss it out and start from scratch because it's obviously dated.

Darren Cross/Yellowjacket is another generic forgettable Marvel villain with little screen time. The film is littered with so many plot holes, gaps in logic, and PIS, that Cinemasins is going to have a field day with it. I suspect this film may have a low budget too because a good portion of the movie is spent inside Hank Pym's house. You'd think with a character like Ant Man, the film would be creative with his powerset but it's pretty uninspired. All the shrinking scenes are in unconvincing CG and a better director would have played around more with filming something like this.

On the positive side in typical Marvel fashion, Ant Man is filled with fun jokes and gags that will leave you laughing. The script is obviously punched up a bit with MCU cameos and comic book references and they're a treat to see. I'm actually surprised to see there is a lot of diversity and minorities in this movie. While a bit stereotypical they have a role and don't feel token at all. It's refreshing to see a movie set in a big city(San Francisco) where everyone isn't white.

Overall I give the film a 6.5/10

BritishHobo · 2 points · Posted at 16:35:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Cinemasins is going to have a field day with it

I think this makes me angrier than anything else.

Bigmethod · 17 points · Posted at 02:26:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Is it terrible? No. But is it good? No.

Eh... Honestly, is anyone really still blown away by this stuff? I LOVE the shrinking trope, but the director was really only sometimes using it to his advantage. I mean why didn't the character grow bigger when he wanted to? Why was the size he shrinked so specified? Why was mass never involved? He cracked the bathroom floor but he can be picked up easily? How did the tanks mass increase as it grew bigger?

But all logic aside, why the FUCK were there so many jump-cuts in completely CG scenes?! It really fucking bugs me. (Pun intended) I mean its FULLY cg'd so why use so many distracting and BAD jump cuts whenever you could've shown something small on an epic scale? Come ON.

I feel like this movie was just some mediocre "lets cash this in for yet another franchise fans will eat up and make a few billion more bucks." I didn't even learn the villains name, that is how forgettable he was. It was more mediocre than Jurassic world, and that's saying something.

Call me a hipster or whatever you want, but having the same exact movie reboxed into a slightly different concept shouldn't be praised. I mean why not have chris pratt as Paul rudd? They both are the SAME character. They are "witty" quip-filled "they didn't actually do anything wrong" heroes that redeem themselves by the end of the movie. What is the difference here?!

This really bugged me...

Tl;DR - Marvel shlock entertainment value that will cause many fans to say "JUST TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF!" Is it terrible? No. But is it good? No.

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 14:38:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If I had a dollar for every time I heard the "turn off your brain" nonsense.

autisticface · 2 points · Posted at 02:52:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

To each his/her own I guess. The movie was enjoyable and fun and I doubt it is a turn off your brain kind of movie. Was it a GREAT movie? no, was it a GOOD movie? absolutely. I have a feeling we are getting a little too spoiled with movies these days(jaded) that people can't recognize and give credit to a well executed movie.

[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 02:54:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Kept my brain on, still enjoyed it. Scott is not witty. His jokes often come from him being awkward. For that matter, Star-Lord is a dimwit who is just quick to retort.

For one, Scott is smart. He is a skilled thief and electrical engineer. Peter is an idiot who wishes he was a great outlaw. Scott is fighting to help his relationship with his daughter. Peter has to overcome his inability to make emotional connections with people. Scott fights because of his daughter. Peter fights for himself, and then because it's the right thing to do. Scott is trying to kid his adult life together, Peter is really immature. The thefts, redemptions, and the fact that they say funny things sometimes is all they have in common.

suss2it · 1 points · Posted at 03:57:49 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Chris Pratt and Paul Rudd were pretty different. Pratt was way more energetic and outwardly fun and was into music and all that. Rudd was way more subdued in comparison, yeah he told a few jokes here and there but he wasn't nearly as affable as Pratt was. And I highly doubt this movie is gonna make a couple extra billion. It's still Ant-Man at the end of the day.

smilbandit · 2 points · Posted at 01:58:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I watched standard, how was it in 3d?

homeboi808 · 4 points · Posted at 02:29:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Saw it in IMAX 3D, it was surprisingly really well done and it was utilized throughout the movie.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:21:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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chris2webby · 2 points · Posted at 02:36:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I assumed he got shrunken down in the quantum world too (or whatever it was called). But I guess you can say he might as well be dead.

UnknownJ25 · 1 points · Posted at 03:54:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Might as well

BenjaminTalam · 1 points · Posted at 04:17:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's really getting old only having Loki as a recurring villain that's as entertaining as the heroes.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:40:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I love the dramatic change of tone when it shifted to Cap in the after credits scene. I really want to know the context. Neither of them were in costume and it looked like they've been through some crap.

Wildinferno · 1 points · Posted at 13:55:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It didn't look like a set up scene, more like a clip straight out of Cap 3 dealing with civil war.

apgearhart1 · 2 points · Posted at 02:43:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Does anyone know of a source to the After Credits Scene? Forgot there was one, only saw the mid-credit scene

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 03:03:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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apgearhart1 · 2 points · Posted at 03:45:09 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Omg thanks!

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 02:46:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I can tell you what it is.

Bucky, Falcon, and Cap are in a room together. Bucky's metal arm seems to be broken. Cap doesn't want to tell Tony, Falcon says that he knows a guy.

chris2webby · 1 points · Posted at 02:54:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

go to /r/marvel , there was a link to a video there earlier today

FaramirFeanor · 2 points · Posted at 02:54:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Defied expectations.

Misinglink15 · 2 points · Posted at 03:02:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The first third of the movie was a mixture of a good scene then a "meh it's ok" scene. As soon as Scot woke up in pyms' house that is when the laughs came and all the ant stuff was awesome. I recommend a 3d showing, Scott flying on or traveling with the Ants was so rewarding.

dannzo_29 · 2 points · Posted at 03:09:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

One of the best Marvel films hands down.

Damasticator · 2 points · Posted at 03:13:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

My favorite Marvel movie so far. I'm a sucker for heist movies.

Du_V · 2 points · Posted at 03:28:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Scott's three buddies was one of the highlights for sure of this film. The guy telling him the gig at the beginning and very end was such a funny character.

Along with large Thomas the Tank Engine, this was a very fun ride. It created its own tone, and I had a good time watching it.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 03:28:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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LivingDeadPunk · 2 points · Posted at 05:50:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Been produced by David Banner. Rubberband Man is obviously a reference to Reed Richards. He's a natural for the MCU.

hmhmh6532 · 2 points · Posted at 03:43:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

So can anyone explain the ending to me? Luis was talking too fast and I was kinda zoning out.

NCFishGuy · 2 points · Posted at 04:32:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Falcon was looking for him

RadiantViper · 1 points · Posted at 07:11:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Falcon (Sam Wilson) is looking for Ant-Man. So set up for Scott working with the other heroes in later movies.

jagfanjosh3252 · 2 points · Posted at 03:47:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did anyone catch Flacon say Tony can't help because of the Accords!???

interp21 · 1 points · Posted at 13:23:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What are the Accords?

jagfanjosh3252 · 1 points · Posted at 14:06:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Guessing the movie universe version of Registration Act

Iwant_some_taquitos · 2 points · Posted at 05:41:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

So I went for a 9pm CST showing and there was a surprisingly pitiful crowd. I'm talkin like a hand full of people. I hope no one else experienced this because I actually really enjoyed the film and hope it does well this weekend.

homeboi808 · 2 points · Posted at 12:44:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I saw it in IMAX, I reserved my tickets a few hours in advance and got there a 1/2 hour early, and the ticket guy said only 1/4 of the tickets were sold, compared to when I went to see Avengers: AoU a whole 1 hour early and the IMAX at 7pm & 10pm were sold out. However, by the time the movie started, the theater was packed, and it was a very large theater.

AgentDonut · 1 points · Posted at 07:43:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I saw it the 7PM showing in IMAX. Our theater was surprising only half full. Which is a pretty huge contrast to the packed house that AoU premiere had. I was hoping that Marvel's name was going to make people see this movie, but it looks like we're going to have to leave it to word of mouth.

mikeweasy · 2 points · Posted at 06:13:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

so funny one of Marvels best!!!!!!!

gohomepat · 2 points · Posted at 06:50:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Missed opportunity by not making 1989 Michael Douglas look like Gordon Gekko.

MarriottPlayer · 2 points · Posted at 06:53:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

My favorite part about this movie was its emphasis on comedy, not just in jokes but in tone, directorial decisions, dialogue, and humor.

Supremacy_- · 2 points · Posted at 07:05:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Peña was fucking hilarious in this movie.

funinfuneral · 2 points · Posted at 07:41:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm never going to look at ants the same way after this movie haha

ryry1573 · 2 points · Posted at 12:32:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He said...yes!

shaneo632 · 2 points · Posted at 13:46:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone else find it weird that all the lines mocking the Ant-Man name were removed?

RadiantViper · 2 points · Posted at 22:40:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I just read an article about that actually.

http://filmschoolrejects.com/features/ant-man-name-change-joke.php

Basically, they cut it because there was similar joke elsewhere, and they didn't want to go overboard on the self-deprecation because you have to believe in the world you create if you want the audience to.

homeboi808 · 0 points · Posted at 15:53:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Lots of comedy movie do this, they show alternate takes instead of the actual one's.

shaneo632 · 1 points · Posted at 16:41:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought they did it because they didn't want to actually mock the character but wanted to assure casual viewers it was going to be self-aware.

ethanradd · 2 points · Posted at 13:57:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was better than expected, by the third act everything was in full gear, the action, the comedy, the drama, it had charm and Pena's narration sequences were just golden

relevant_mh_quote · 2 points · Posted at 15:44:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved how you saw this little guy when he went subatomic https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/19/50/e0/1950e0084e79f74fd0412418e06f9767.jpg

sofieyah · 2 points · Posted at 16:03:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did anyone else find the scene where Scott swatted him away the funniest scene in the entire movie? I would rewatch it just for that scene alone!

http://sofieyah.com/2015/07/17/movie-review-ant-man/

badblankets3 · 2 points · Posted at 17:04:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Do I have to see Age of Ultron to see Ant-Man?

chris2webby · 3 points · Posted at 17:48:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

just one quick reference to Age Of Ultron/Iron Man, but you don't have to see it

EDIT: also, a new Avengers base that was established in Age Of Ultron is present in Ant-Man

asianorange · 1 points · Posted at 17:08:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

No.

BuckNekkid18 · 1 points · Posted at 17:15:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nah.

itsnotmeitsyo · 2 points · Posted at 18:27:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Such a refreshingly fun and funny heist movie with awesome visuals, they really nailed the tone.

Jaebird0388 · 2 points · Posted at 18:50:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just came back from seeing it, and I enjoyed the movie. A bit slow to start, but it ramps up to a nice pace. For as much as I disliked the lack of Janet van Dyne, I am happy to see that she was not officially fridged. There is a way out of the hole that was dug for her character, which was not out of character in how she sacrificed herself.

Still sucked that there was no actual actress to embody Janet, but I suppose Hope will have to suffice until they decide to revisit that thread.

ngwego · 2 points · Posted at 20:23:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wish they played with Lang in the Quantum Realm more about how "time and space mean nothing". He could have totally come back in the middle of the Civil War or something. Though they'll probably explore this in Dr. Strange.

jellytrack · 2 points · Posted at 21:20:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

While it's not Wayne's World, Disintegration by the Cure from Siri was some good product placement.

theroitsmith · 2 points · Posted at 21:28:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was so fucking funny. I have never seen people laugh as much in a cinema.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:34:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

THEY REFERENCED SPIDER-MAN HOLY SHIT

i_love_Cheekzz · 2 points · Posted at 22:24:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone else notice Marvel has been using the laser sounds from Star Wars lately.

bluepanda5 · 2 points · Posted at 22:30:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure if Scott's in another movie, and still uses the ants, he'll have named every ant he uses, will recognize each of them, and know them all on a personal level.

erikasue · 2 points · Posted at 00:19:12 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The tone of this movie was perfect. I felt it was a little slow to start, but it payed of in a big way. The daughter was adorable, Pena's role was hilarious and there was so many laughs. I love that the Marvel movies aren't afraid to add some comedy. The Thomas the tank engine bits killed me.

RIP Antony and baby lamb.

Comment-Leaver · 2 points · Posted at 00:23:17 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

From now on I want all marvel films to be in the form of Luis' stories

Stkbayfield · 2 points · Posted at 02:30:28 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

So was that "super hot smoking damn-fine gal with the mad journalistic Avengers hook-ups" girl Sally Floyd? Because I will have a better chance at not hating her on sight with an intro that light-hearted and playful.

Foxhack · 2 points · Posted at 17:22:07 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't think so, she didn't say anything about MySpace.

FriedPenguins · 2 points · Posted at 03:04:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I would think that a child would be traumatized after seeing a guy get crushed to a subatomic size.

scrognog_gutentag · 1 points · Posted at 17:44:25 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Chances are she would have been traumatized already by being nearly executed in front of her step-dad by a bug robot monster man with lasers.

Tomsnook · 2 points · Posted at 03:06:12 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Am I the only one that heard the AT-AT canon sound when yellow jacket was shooting at Antman in the Thomas the Train scene?

I'm kind of a big Star Wars nut so i cannot just unhear that sound.

DrBallz444 · 3 points · Posted at 06:43:56 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I totally heard that as well, plenty of Star Wars references.

kansasct · 2 points · Posted at 03:31:49 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I always wondered why people thought Evangeline Lilly was regarded as a bad actress during Lost, but after seeing her attempt at crying when she found out the truth about her mom I understood. she's really hot short haired though, so there's that.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:26:38 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought she was great in that scene, as was Douglas. I was kinda pissed they had Rudd ruin the moment. Thought it was a great moment that would have impacted more without the joke.

chardeemac · 2 points · Posted at 08:00:37 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah I think they should have just let us have that moment, they overdo the comic relief a little bit

but they needn't worry, I think we caould have handled it without the comic relief at the end of the scene and the film would have benefitted from it

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 03:35:17 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The fight scenes for this movie are amazing! Had a hell of a time and I will see it again! Maybe in 3D!

prophetofgreed · 1 points · Posted at 07:26:02 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Saw it in IMAX 3D, one of the few times it enhanced the experience especially with the visual stuff with the shrunken perspective.

soundwave145 · 2 points · Posted at 03:56:18 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

it was more comedy than I expected, so much so that I thought it was a little over bearing and stupid, I did like the movie however...just maybe not as much if it was a little more serious..

dingding91234 · 2 points · Posted at 05:06:40 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I haven't seen anyone on this thread mention it, but I thought the fight scenes were dope! I thought it they were really creative and original.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 05:12:18 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

What I loved most about this movie was how they poked fun at the idea of AntMan fighting. The fight scenes were awesome and hilarious at the same time, on purpose. The zoom in and out views of the fights were perfect.

dscraw01 · 2 points · Posted at 11:13:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Peyton Reed mentioned a newspaper easter egg but i missed it. Did anyone else notice what it was?

GamingTatertot · 3 points · Posted at 12:20:24 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

A newspaper that said "Who's responsible for Sokovia" or something along those lines referencing the fact that Ultron and the Avengers battled it out in Sokovia.

TWK128 · 1 points · Posted at 21:42:40 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

And trying to get to who should be held responsible could directly lead to Civil War.

But that doesn't seem all that...Easter-Egg-y, really.

1337speak · 2 points · Posted at 18:35:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

What a fun and entertaining movie. I loved the tone. Come to think of it, this is now my favorite Marvel flick. Paul Rudd, Corey Stoll, and Michael Pena were fantastic. I am going to see this movie again, well worth the money and time.

TWK128 · 2 points · Posted at 21:39:12 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Agreed. I think this was one of the more three dimensional villains in a while.

He was human, had legitimate feeling and emotions and that drove him to do what he did, just like with Hope.

Felt a lot like Iron Man 3 in how much it humanized the "bad guys"

1337speak · 2 points · Posted at 04:31:11 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Absolutely. The over-the-top suits (e.g. The Avengers 2's Ultron) do not make a villain scary. Corey Stoll (almost typed Peter Russo) was plain scary. When having dinner with Hope and then bumping into her when she walks out of the lab, I almost shat my pants. And as mentioned by other Redditors, when he shrinks that guy in the bathroom... Holy shit. His demeanor was perfect.

Rancid_Bear_Meat · 2 points · Posted at 22:02:40 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Loved it and so did the audience. They were out of control-laughing at some parts.. was really great!

I now rank this directly above the Captain America and Thor stand-alone's.

Can't wait to see it again.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 00:24:01 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Dumb question... Does that Hydra guy have the pym particle copies?

neoblackdragon · 3 points · Posted at 01:00:50 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well he may not be Hydra but yeah he has Pym Particles or at least Cross particles(assuming there is still a difference given it being yellow).

Vlinux · 1 points · Posted at 03:59:31 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought he got on the helicopter with Cross?

gurupro · 2 points · Posted at 03:38:36 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone remember what the cop (Scott's ex's fiance) said about letting Scott off the hook? Couldn't register the entire conversation. He said like, there was a system glitch and he was not in the police system anymore so he was free to go or something?

flmike1185 · 3 points · Posted at 16:13:18 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

The ants were covering the camera during booking making the processing illegal.

fer_sure · 2 points · Posted at 03:13:52 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

He covered up Scott's escape, making up paperwork to indicate he was processed and released properly.

BlinkDaggerOP · 2 points · Posted at 04:09:05 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Were there...two after credits scenes? I stayed for the one with the Wasp but thought that was it and left.

haunthorror · 1 points · Posted at 04:16:03 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yep two was a scene directly from Civil War.

haunthorror · 1 points · Posted at 04:19:36 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Never assume with Marvel.

sam_hudson · 2 points · Posted at 06:22:42 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Was anyone else surprised that the MCU dropped the P word?

goldbergenstein · 1 points · Posted at 15:30:22 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

No, considering Tony Stark called an 8 year old kid a pushy in Iron Man 3.

xGhostCat · 1 points · Posted at 22:32:36 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

P word?

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 06:37:17 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's a long wait now for the next MCU film...

SutterCane · 2 points · Posted at 21:34:55 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

If we're lucky, Daredevil should be coming out on bluray soon enough and the month after Age of Ultron hits bluray and SHIELD comes back to television.

neoblackdragon · 2 points · Posted at 00:55:16 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well if you have Netflix, Daredevil isn't exactly going anywhere.

SutterCane · 3 points · Posted at 00:56:22 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't. I refuse to accept the future.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 10:37:18 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Do you accept the present? Because it's here now.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 07:16:15 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

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BigTaker · 2 points · Posted at 00:53:59 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Microverse, my man.

It would be interesting if Hank Pym, a man of science, had to get help from Dr Strange, a man of magic.

MrHeavySilence · 2 points · Posted at 09:08:21 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was fucking awesome. One thing I was dying to see was Ant Man turning GIANT- like skyscraper size! But hey, maybe they're saving up for a big Civil War moment.

GamingTatertot · 5 points · Posted at 19:54:57 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

They're definitely saving Giant-Man for the future.

BigTaker · 1 points · Posted at 00:52:40 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Infinity War, just you wait.

BryanDowling93 · 2 points · Posted at 20:18:52 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)*

That was way more fun than I thought it was going to be. I laughed a lot (especially during the Michael Pena scenes), and I was very entertained by the unique shrinkage action scenes. Paul Rudd made a great Scott Lang/Ant-Man, and was very funny in a self aware/quirky way. Michael Douglas brought gravitas and charm to the film as Hank Pym. I loved the scene with him telling Hope about Janet. He didn't phone it in, as you felt emotion during that scene, and it is a credit to Rudd/McKay (who rewrote the script) that the joke after that didn't fall flat after such a serious scene, as it worked having Scott break the tension, and it didn't disrespect the scene. I was also really impressed by the make up job on young Hank Pym, as It felt like I was watching 80s Gordon Gecko Michael Douglas. Cross/Yellowjacket I thought was an over the top generic bad guy, but he was really the only thing I didn't like about the film, as while I didn't love the subplot between Lang and his daughter, I understood why it needed to be there, and it didn't bother me, but with Cross/Yellowjacket I wished he had a bit more personality, and Stoll did best with what he was given, but I suppose Marvel aren't great with villains other than Loki. I loved the mid credit scene with Hank showing Hope the Wasp suit, and I'm looking forward to see how Marvel utilize Wasp in either Civil War or Avengers: Infinity War or maybe Ant-Man 2. I'm looking forward to seeing more of Paul Rudd as Ant-Man in Civil War, Avengers: Infinity War and any other Marvel Studios film he's in. It was also awesome seeing Falcon make a cameo in the film, and I thought his fight with Ant-Man was awesome. And the post credit scene, Civil War hype starts now.

Pollonius · 1 points · Posted at 22:45:25 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Im think they could have made the villain something more than a businessman in a suit with daddy issues. Classic heist movies leave the villain alive but humiliated and penniless. Or the villain doesnt even know he has been scammed like in "the Sting".

earthbendinglemur · 2 points · Posted at 22:14:26 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't fully understand how Scott came back from the subatomic level. Can someone explain?

xGhostCat · 3 points · Posted at 22:25:06 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Going subatomic required breaking the suits power supply regulator meaning the suit is broke and continuously shrinks.The disks are a one use pym blast to grow or shrnk things, he basically used the disc to jump start his suit!

2litersam · 2 points · Posted at 01:55:10 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

But wouldn't it also make him grow exponentially?

xGhostCat · 6 points · Posted at 02:00:05 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)*

The suit regulated it!

In detail the left button on the suit changes the user to "default" whilst the right button shrinks the User as much as possible but the regulator on his belt has the minimum set as Ant size.

2litersam · 3 points · Posted at 02:16:46 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh ok.

FighTheFoo · 2 points · Posted at 05:03:51 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

This was good fun and, honestly, a bit of a beautiful mess. You could see the seams bursting from what Edgar Wright wanted to bring, what got added and what got cut (e.g., there was clearly more to Yellowjacket's mental state being affected by the particles, but, alas, we'll never really know more, other than what Hank Pym mentioned in one scene.) But the strength of the performances, the clever and lively action sequences and the humor helped it shine. For me, the movie took a little while to find it's groove (though I appreciated the film's slower pace), and it was ultimately better as a whole than in its parts, methinks. Except for Luis. His parts were all exceptional.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:03:50 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

So what happened to the other Hydra guy who took the Pym Particle away with him? The one who Michael Douglas punched.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 10:52:52 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

We're not told. I think it's to set up a sequel.

RubberDong · 2 points · Posted at 22:48:27 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

so anyone can guess what hydra is going to do now that they actually stole the Pym juice?

Vlinux · 1 points · Posted at 03:17:45 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Didn't they ride away in the helicopter with Darren?

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 10:52:39 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

No. After Darren got bit with the bullet ants, he got the suitcase with his Yellowjacket suit and ran away. Before that, remember how he gave the particle to one of his guards? The guard died and the Hydra guy who was interested in buying took it from his dead body and ran away- I think it's a potential set-up for a sequel.

PREDXENO426 · 2 points · Posted at 05:43:37 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

I just realized Yellow jacket is from the strain

dyingfetus907 · 2 points · Posted at 07:44:15 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Had a lot more fun than I thought I would that's for sure!

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 14:02:21 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did anyone else notice the fact that it mirrors Iron Man 1? Like villian etc, and they hang a lantern on it by saying, "It's not just a cute suit like Stark's"?

Vlinux · 2 points · Posted at 03:16:57 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

In a way, it's also like Cap 1. Inventor creates something powerful, gives it to the good guy, and the bad guy (who stole a flawed version) goes a little crazy, but gains the same kind of power.

[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 03:19:19 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Maybe it's just the marvel origin story for non mutants?

[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 05:29:33 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thlight it was more post Avengers because he says a line like "maybe we should call the avengers" and from there we see a lot of avengers refrences even get to see falcon .

greenstreet18 · 2 points · Posted at 18:10:52 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Is anyone else annoyed that Yellowjacket died? I thought compared to other Marvel villains he was fairly decent as he had a believable reason to be evil rather than "I hate everything!" and could become even better in future films! Would have preferred to see just one Earth villain put in prison instead of just killed off, it worked with Loki! The best thing about Thor 2 was Loki returning because he was in prison, now I can't see what they're gonna do with Antman 2 (if they do it) because I'm not really interested in getting another onetime villain no ones heard of.

And yeah I know that it's Marvel and anyone can comeback but even if they do unbelievably bring back Darren Cross that would be so fucking boring, could have just saved the time and have this character in a cell/insane asylum (coz of the over exposure to the particles) as he delves deeper into maddness to the point where he slowly looses his humanity and all he can think of is fucking Scott Lang & Hank Pyms dying a painful death for "what they did to him". Then he could break out and be a villain who's hiding from the law and maybe even trying to create his intended yellowjacket army or something (better than just having another expendable nobody villain who will predictably loose and die).

I did really enjoy this film but fuck me did him dying bother me and bring down the film, unfortunately now I can't see a future for Antman other than him being in other peoples films...which is really disappointing :/

JupitersClock · 1 points · Posted at 22:02:55 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

They can't really get a villain right though. I would have preferred Cross getting away in the end because I hated how quick he went from Cross to Yellow Jacket to dead.

First they set it up that Cross was pushed away by Pym then they throw in the technology messes with your head. We didn't need the 2nd part, its okay if Cross is legitimately a bad guy because of what Pym failed to do. Him losing his company was a good out to be a true villain and survive after a epic showdown with Ant-Man hell maybe Hydra sees his potential and intervenes.

If only...

QCognition · 2 points · Posted at 11:00:48 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Loved the "that 70's show" voice over style from Michael Pena.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 04:50:04 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Scott ? Yeah? Youre full of shit! Oh yeah.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 05:00:09 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Shout out to stan lee

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 13:09:44 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not even a big fan of superhero movies, but Ant-Man was a solid film. Also talk about a perfect ending delivery by Michael Pena.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:36:56 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Stan lee in the end was awesome

DLun203 · 2 points · Posted at 14:04:06 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

If this thread isn't dead yet then can someone clear something up for me? I was under the impression that the suit decreases the space between atoms in your body, making you shrink to an ant's size.

If that's the case then why isn't Scott the same weight when he's shrunk into ant man? And if the space between atoms is decreased then how is it possible for him to go "sub-atomic?"

SunnyChow · 2 points · Posted at 10:42:21 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

he does keep the same weight in movie ... sometimes, like when punching people or falling on a car. Oh come on don't take it too serious

yesindeedio79 · 1 points · Posted at 14:02:06 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

All this can be explained by dodgy sci-fi plotholes.

Smarkysmarkwahlberg · 2 points · Posted at 02:06:23 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

Growing up reading comics, I wanted Hank Pym. After watching the flick though I'm really happy they went with Lang.

Fun, fun movie. Plus Pena was killer

8nate · 2 points · Posted at 04:05:44 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

Loved this movie. Thought the humor was great and the action was fun and creative. Michael Douglas, Paul Rudd, and Michael Pena were incredible. Let's just say I won't be stepping on any ants any time soon.

IdleJamerican1 · 2 points · Posted at 05:38:56 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

T.I was awesome as well even though he did very little!

currentlylurking-brb · 2 points · Posted at 01:30:57 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

Something I really liked was how the action was innovative. Shrinking allowed for the fights and action I've never seen in other movies.

HopelessMann · 2 points · Posted at 22:37:14 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

This movie had a lot of comedy for an action movie, I really liked it

skonen_blades · 2 points · Posted at 09:34:22 on August 2, 2015 · (Permalink)

Shoot. I thought that Evangeline Lily getting the Wasp suit WAS the after-credits stinger. There was another one at the very, very end with Bucky or something? Can someone tell me what it was?

vowthy · 2 points · Posted at 08:43:15 on August 6, 2015 · (Permalink)

Here http://youtu.be/jSNCRQvuwDY

skonen_blades · 1 points · Posted at 16:51:27 on August 7, 2015 · (Permalink)

Right on. Thank you.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 05:50:24 on August 8, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know I'm late to the party on this, but I was a little annoyed with how inconsistent Scott's intelligence was in this film. He said he has a master's in electrical engineering (they don't give those out easy) and yet he was puzzled when Hank explained to him what a subatomic particle was? Dafuq?

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:06:56 on August 8, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah I was thrown off by that as well. Anybody in any scientific field should understand what they mean when they talk about decreasing interatomic distances thereby increasing atomic density.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:34:54 on August 8, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's the most basic college chemistry, which in my uni at least every engineering has to take the first general chemistry course.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:42:15 on August 8, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, at least at my university, anybody in physical or biological sciences must take a full year in general chemistry and physics.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 19:10:17 on August 8, 2015 · (Permalink)

2 weird things I noticed about this movie.

In the prologue when the one guy gets his head smashed into the table, he gets a nosebleed. A second later, there is zero blood under his nose and there is zero blood on his handkerchief.
When our Ant Man hero meets his Mexican buddy's friends, the computer whiz is wearing glasses. A moment later, he is no longer wearing any glasses and we did not see him take them off.

Did they screw up the consistency on these two scenes or am I missing something? Not a big deal but I found it a bit odd.

KingreX32 · 2 points · Posted at 02:09:06 on October 5, 2015 · (Permalink)

I had alot of fun watching Ant-Man. So many great moments.

"Thats one messed up lookin dog"

That had me on the floor.

[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 03:33:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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lulushortcake · 7 points · Posted at 04:02:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Scott had equipment Janet didn't. Hank made the shrink/grow discs specifically for Scott. Janet never had those. When Scott opened his regulator he released some parts into subatomic space and replaced them with a grow disc. It's very likely Janet's going to pick up the parts he left behind and engineer her own way out of subatomic space. They even gave themselves a pass to use a young actress by having Hank say time works differently/no longer applies in subatomic space. I doubt she'll be there for Civil War, but it's likely she'll be around for Infinity Gauntlet.

It looks like the whole subatomic thing was a set up to bring Janet into the continuity later down the road without having to have her sit out due to her continuity age.

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 10:03:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

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suss2it · 2 points · Posted at 04:48:37 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, I had a feeling the best parts of the movies would be attributed to Wright and the worst parts to Reed regardless of who was actually responsible for what.

kvdragonslayer · 1 points · Posted at 23:30:10 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I remember also thinking disposable, but for me, it also meant re-watchable. I could toss this dvd in whenever and come back to something fun, without it trying to draw me into an epic it hasn't earned

Swindle4587 · 5 points · Posted at 02:21:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"He jumps, he swings, and he climbs on walls"

S O H Y P E

JW_Stillwater · 5 points · Posted at 01:53:30 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone get an Interstellar vibe during the ending?

Babushka5 · 7 points · Posted at 01:30:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The tank was so over the top

GreedE · 37 points · Posted at 01:41:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The shrinking and growing gags were the best part of the movie though. Thomas The Tank Engine destroying the house killed in my cinema.

Babushka5 · 5 points · Posted at 01:44:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh Thomas was hilarious, but that tank came out of absolutely nowhere. I also liked that this was the first movie I've seen where the good guys are blowing shit up and using countdowns

deadlast · 28 points · Posted at 02:09:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They focused on the highly-detailed tank keychain at least twice before the reveal.

jvrdrckt · 9 points · Posted at 02:57:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yup. I even thought to myself when he grabbed the tank keychain out of the tray after security that it was foreshadowing.

Zthe27th · 5 points · Posted at 03:07:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It is also the same tank in one of the old Ant-Man videos

C3L3STIALB3ING · 4 points · Posted at 05:22:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I honestly thought he was hiding the Wasp costume in the keychain, and he was going to die and Hope would make it out.

Bigmethod · 1 points · Posted at 02:38:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I just don't get how he could hold a fucking tank in his pocket since we learned before the mass of the object doesn't change? Right? It was kinda iffy throughout the movie. When Rudd fell from the bathtub he cracked the floor, if an ant fell from the bathtub it wouldn't crack the floor. So... Does the mass change, or doesn't it?

jinyx1 · 3 points · Posted at 03:03:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes... otherwise literally everything else in the movie wouldn't work.

Bigmethod · 0 points · Posted at 03:31:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yes to what?

thedolaon · -1 points · Posted at 05:11:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's a plot hole lol

BritishHobo · 3 points · Posted at 16:34:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

But then he fell from the roof down onto a record and did absolutely no damage whatsoever, so just chalk it up to total lack of consistency on that point.

homeboi808 · 2 points · Posted at 01:42:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Mine too.

ribblesquat · 8 points · Posted at 01:56:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

But how was Hank Pym carrying around 60 tons of steel in his pocket? Strong for his age!

RufusROFLpunch · 9 points · Posted at 02:58:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Michael Douglas is a beast.

VIsForVoltz2 · 4 points · Posted at 09:12:21 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well it's not like they retain mass, if they did all scott would have to do is stand on people to crush them.

ArcticSpaceman · 1 points · Posted at 04:56:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

lol I know this is stereotypical /r/thatHappened joke but the tank exploding through the wall had everyone laughing and a bunch of people clapping for whatever reason

The audience really liked the movie at my showing

Hitzkolpf · 13 points · Posted at 02:00:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Pros:

Paul Rudd as Ant-Man. Rudd brings another dimension as Scott Lang, basically embodying the everyman thrust into a position of power. It's more or less a breath of fresh air after a series of movies headlined by tall, muscular white guys, with light-colored hair and eyes, three of whom are named Chris.
Michael Pena as the lead white character's non-white sidekick. Every line out of his mouth is gold, but I cant really accept him going from Fury and End of Watch to essentially a jokey, Latino caricature.
Michael Douglas as Hank Pymp
Evangeline Lilly as Hope is probably like what... one of the three female characters in the MCU with any semblance of complexity? The only female love interest with depth? I hope they don't squander the chance to use Lilly and the character well in the future.
The action set pieces. Great use of depth perception, depth-of-field, space, distance, and humor in the inventive sequences.
Much more smaller and contained compared to Age of Ultron; this helped it to have identity for itself as opposed to being too much of a plug for future sequels.

Cons:

It was obvious which parts were included by Rudd and McKay's rewrites, since it clashed with everything else and made little sense i.e. the SHIELD prologue, Falcon melee, and Hydra being shoehorned in because it wouldn't be a Marvel movie without fucking Hydra.
Dun-dun-dun, another one-dimensional Marvel villain bites the dust
The usual, bland made-for-TV cinematography in non-action scenes despite having Russell Carpenter as the DOP.
The usual dullard, barely there score

It's better than Age of Spectacle, but that's probably not saying much.

--Petrichor-- · 21 points · Posted at 02:57:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Dun-dun-dun, another one-dimensional Marvel villain bites the dust

I actually think he was one of Marvel's better villains. He genuinely seemed to feel betrayed by Hank Pym, to a point of near insanity. To me, he seemed like a mix of Iron Monger and Loki from the first Thor.

Hitzkolpf · 1 points · Posted at 03:03:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

All of the villains are insane and seek to kill a character/a group of characters/the planet for some binary reason; that's their defining trait in the movies they appear in.

--Petrichor-- · 6 points · Posted at 03:05:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What do you mean by 'binary reason'?

All of the villains are insane

I disagree with that. In fact, I wouldn't say any of the Marvel villains have really seemed insane until Yellowjacket.

Hitzkolpf · 0 points · Posted at 04:20:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Binary as in simplistic, without depth i.e. I want to kill you to take over the company/city/planet/universe.

And they were all insane. Obadiah concocted the plan to kill Stark, fuel wars and even kill Pepper. Laufey was a crazy Frost Giant leading an army of crazy Frost Giants. Loki is clearly insane. Red Skull was a crazy Nazi that lead his own Reich. Malekith was a crazy Dark Elf that wanted to plunge the universe back into darkness. Alexander Pierce was a former war nut with a crazy plan to weaponize the SHIELD Helicarriers to kill as many people on EARTH who are a threat to Hydra as possible.

And recently, Ultron was a crazy sentient A.I. with violent, childish mood swings - chopping Klaw's arm off at one moment and joking the next - that planned to weaponize a city into a meteor to destroy the planet. And in the third act, pilots a jet and turns nto a Saturday morning cartoon crazy villain, humming like a loony bin after killing Pietro.

Unless your definition of insanity and craziness is as black-and-white rambling mad men who poop in their own hands, the MCU villains were all insane in their own unique, one-dimensional way.

--Petrichor-- · 2 points · Posted at 05:36:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Okay, I'll concede that Ultron was insane. The rest though? You just named the villains and used the adjective 'crazy' without supporting it. What you are describing is villainy, not insanity.

Hitzkolpf · 1 points · Posted at 05:56:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

TIL consciously wanting to kill even a single person without having a moral dilemma about it isn't in the least bit insane. But yeah, you're right; those psychopathic, genocidal villains were just bad people with their sanity being as normal as a sane person.

suss2it · 0 points · Posted at 04:08:48 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

In that case crazy is a very broad term and pretty much every single villain is crazy by your definition to the point where it'd be ridiculous to call it a cliche.

darth_static · 0 points · Posted at 05:29:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

In fact, I wouldn't say any of the Marvel villains have really seemed insane until Yellowjacket.

I agree. Let's see, you've got Iron Monger, Red Skull, The Mandarin (both Slattery and the other guy), Whiplash, Loki, Abomination, Malekith, Bucky, Ultron, and Ronan. About the only one that I could consider remotely insane is Bucky, and that's due to Nazi manipulation.

Bigmethod · 7 points · Posted at 02:40:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The cinematography really bothered me. I'm not one of those "edgar wright could have done it better!" fanboys, although he really could have, that's not my issue. The director did like 30% of the scenes in this cool sweeping one shot,and the other 70% were these super fast cuts. I get it, none of the actors actually know how to fight, but why do those super fast stupid cuts during fully CG'd scenes?! I mean give us epic panning camera movements when its completely animated for fucks sake. It was making me dizzy.

deadlast · -2 points · Posted at 03:30:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm not one of those "edgar wright could have done it better!" fanboys

You sure about that?

Bigmethod · 5 points · Posted at 03:31:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

No, because going into this movie i didn't go in thinking of ways he could've made it better.

CigaretteBurn12 · 0 points · Posted at 08:58:29 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well it's true. He could have done it better.

reece1495 · 2 points · Posted at 04:12:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hank Pymp

dannzo_29 · 5 points · Posted at 02:54:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Avengers/SHEILD scenes definitely worked in it's own way though, I would much rather have them in than out. Also, it's only the third movie with Hydra in it, and 2/3 of those films were just Hydra "cameos".

blex64 · 2 points · Posted at 07:05:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Eh, 4th movie with hydra. Cap 1, Cap 2, Avengers 2, Ant-Man.

There's at least a little bit of Hydra still around in Civil War as well. Zemo and Crossbones are both in. I imagine that'll be the end of it though. They're not very relevant in Agents of Shield anymore either.

Wombat_H · 2 points · Posted at 07:08:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fourth movie with Hydra actually.

dannzo_29 · 1 points · Posted at 15:07:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

You're right, I was thinking post revival. Anyways, outside of the Cap franchise, it's only been two cameos.

IanMazgelis · 4 points · Posted at 02:42:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Should have been Oscorp buying the suit. Would be much more exciting and just as surprising.

blake_brown · 3 points · Posted at 02:44:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Completely agree with your points.

It's really a shame that Marvel doesn't give a rat's ass about the scores to their films, they're all bland and forgettable. People can talk as much shit as they want about Man of Steel but that score is fucking amazing and immediately recognizable, at least to me.

wizards_upon_dragons · 1 points · Posted at 03:02:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not just you.. Silvestri's Cap 1 and Avengers scores are decent. GotG has one nice theme. Craig Armstrong's Incredible Hulk is their only great score. The worst ones are all by Brian Tyler (IM 3, Thor 2, most of AoU), they all sound like his Ninja Turtles score.

Minifig81 · 2 points · Posted at 02:07:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Dun-dun-dun, another one-dimensional Marvel villain bites the dust

We don't know if he's dead or not...

Hitzkolpf · 6 points · Posted at 02:43:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Are we really ignoring how a majority of the Marvel villains since Obadiah have been throwaway, expendable punching bags?

blake_brown · 2 points · Posted at 02:40:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was trying to figure out what in the hell even happened to him, it certainly seemed like he died regardless. Marvel doesn't care enough about their villains to bring them back. Loki being the exception that proves the rule.

saber1001 · 1 points · Posted at 03:15:21 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I've seen a theory that lots of villians could come back, mostly connected to "dying" around the infinity gems. Ultron was killed offscreen by a gem, red skull could come back because of the blue gem, ronan with the purple gem. If anything this movie hinted at wasp not being truly gone so yellowjacket can as well.

gatsby365 · 3 points · Posted at 05:04:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

OH GOD PLEASE LET THANOS UNLEASH A MASTERS OF EVIL SUPERGROUP.

gatsby365 · 1 points · Posted at 05:03:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Shield shoehorn was one of my favorite parts, and com'on. This is the MCU, if you're not in space, you're in shield.

tetsuo9000 · 1 points · Posted at 06:38:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The cinematography and editing in general was really poor which has me worried because Capt. America 3 is shooting at the same studio down here in Georgia. Winter Soldier was my favorite film and I'm really not looking forward to more MCU disappointment, especially a Capt. sequel. I think Marvel needs to slow down their production ramp and focus on quality. Thor 2 and AoU looked rushed in comparison to WS and GotG.

jrhop364 · 1 points · Posted at 14:08:49 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'd really argue only this and AoU have dull scores, the rest I can easily call up in my mind as clear themes.

BritishHobo · 1 points · Posted at 16:32:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The HYDRA thing was pointlessly contrived. 'Oh hey, I'm selling this tech to Nazis!' Right, brilliant, because it was necessary for him to be even more cartoonishly-evil than he already was?

suss2it · 1 points · Posted at 04:05:11 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was obvious which parts were included by Rudd and McKay's rewrites, since it clashed with everything else and made little sense i.e. the SHIELD prologue, Falcon melee, and Hydra being shoehorned in because it wouldn't be a Marvel movie without fucking Hydra.

Did you know they were the ones that also added in Pena's tip summary scenes?

deadlast · 2 points · Posted at 02:07:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was obvious which parts were included by Rudd and McKay's rewrites, since it clashed with everything else and made little sense i.e. the SHIELD prologue, Falcon melee, and Hydra being shoehorned in because it wouldn't be a Marvel movie without fucking Hydra.

Also, Hope's entire character....

Hitzkolpf · 5 points · Posted at 02:41:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hope was in Wright and Cornish's screenplay.

deadlast · 5 points · Posted at 03:17:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

She has a bit part in Wright and Cornish's screenplay.

[deleted] · -3 points · Posted at 05:06:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Bro, all of your pros are back-handed compliments and your cons are more against Marvel than this movie. Not cool.

CaptainDawn · 10 points · Posted at 02:42:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

This movie looked like it was shot as a TV/Direct to DVD film. It bugged the hell out of me and it became even more glaring when the crisp cinematic look of Civil War came on screen in the post credits scene.

Edit: Who is going through and downvoting all posts not praising the film?

CigaretteBurn12 · 3 points · Posted at 08:54:58 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Definitely agree. What an odd decision to have the aspect ratio like that. Definitely didn't feel like a "big" screen movie to me.

[deleted] · -5 points · Posted at 03:00:14 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What was the difference? The Civil War scene had one moving camera angle establishing shot and some close ups. Didn't stand out as being any better to me.

CaptainDawn · 3 points · Posted at 03:08:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The aspect ratio and just the overall look. The Civil War scene just looked more crisp and sharp compared to Ant Man.

Ant Man clip vs.Winter Soldier clip

[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 01:55:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

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DudeWynaut · 1 points · Posted at 07:05:52 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

And Michael Bay levels of racist supporting characters: Mexican dude is super Mexican with extra la cucaracha, black dude is super black, bad accent Russian is super bad accenting.

Was it though?

I'm trying to convince myself that it was, and it was a "culturally diverse" group of heist dudes, but I'm not particularly offended as a Hispanic dude from south Texas. We don't dress like that here, but maybe they do in Cali? Maybe it's a Cali thing. Or maybe it's an Edgar Wright thing! I need to watch more of his movies. Is it accurate? I don't know. But he was there as Paul Rudd's Hispanic friend, no doubt.

La Cucaracha was pushing it, as there was no real reason for the van to have that song other than to exemplify that it was a Hispanic dude's van, but then again, I hear that song coming down the street from the ice cream truck every other day.

But what would have pissed me off is if he were useless and talked about food, like tacos, burritos, rice, and beans, like that was his complete diet.

VIsForVoltz2 · 2 points · Posted at 09:23:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I can't recall a single moment where the mexican guy acted stereotypical.

suss2it · 2 points · Posted at 04:01:43 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, I don't think going to wine-tastings and art galleries for fun are mexican stereotypes. But I guess he means his accent is more pronounced just like T.I. and the russian guy.

walla_walla_rhubarb · 5 points · Posted at 04:25:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Aight so there's one part of the movie that I feel they really set up and then missed an opportunity for a really nice moment. So let me lay it down for you straight. Spoilers

Aight so you know when my boy Scott gets sent to that quantum hood place where time n space is all whack? Yeah Yeah so he can't get back cuz he's all out if that sweet Pym sauce. So he's floating around all chill right, when he runs into Pym's ol lady. She's all like, "Bae? Is that you?" and Scott's all like, "nah mama I'm Hank's homie Scott. Just got done saving the world n shit." He lays it down that he's gotta get back to his daughter and Hank's been caught up on her ever since she disappeared. Then Mrs. Pym's all like, "my shits busted but don't even trip, I gotchyu!" then she gives Scott the last of her Pym sauce so he can dip out. Then before he leaves, she's all like, "yo tell Hank he's still my #1 boo!" Then we coulda had a nice touching moment n shit and momma Pym coulda saved the day again, ya dig?

But nah, instead who gets to save the day? Muthafuckin blue Frisbee thingy!

Still a dope movie tho...

NCFishGuy · 2 points · Posted at 04:29:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They didn't do that since obviously hank is going to find her in the next ant man movie

walla_walla_rhubarb · 3 points · Posted at 04:34:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They still could have done that and hint to hank that she's still alive.

broiamsohigh · 4 points · Posted at 02:54:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I dont know if its just me but Marvels casting decisions have always been on point (RDJ as Iron Man, Chris Pratt as Star-Lord, Hemsworth as Hulk (EDIT: I meant Thor)) but I cant really quite put my finger on it but even though Paul Rudd was quite charming as a character, he did not feel like much of a character at all.

I dont know if the fact that Michael Peña stole the show is good or bad. I really dont know if hes going to be in future marvel films but I really think this is the best secondary character in the whole franchise (really him and his buddies).

homeboi808 · 7 points · Posted at 02:57:55 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hemsworth as Hulk

😐

PenXSword · 1 points · Posted at 02:00:53 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think it's because, like Captain America, Scott doesn't have much of a character arc. He becomes Ant-Man because he was, basically, conned into it, but he's also seeking redemption. He isn't arrogant like Tony Stark or Thor, and throughout the movie he's only ever trying to do the right thing. Much like Cap. He's pretty much the straight man for the other characters to reflect off of.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 04:51:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Damn, I was so blown away. I can't breathe because of how freaking hilarious it was. I NEVER liked Ant-Man, but wow this movie was actually a lot better than AOU. I never ever thought I'd say that that. This is definitely on the same level as GotG, or maybe just under.

MrLuquinhas · 4 points · Posted at 04:53:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Awesome movie, and a great way to start the way to Civil War.

Anybody else catch the keychain still tied to the tank when they made it bigger, that whole scene got me laughing hard.

I found it more enjoyable than Avengers 2, hope I'm not the only one.

RadiantViper · 1 points · Posted at 07:07:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I definitely had more fun with this than Avengers 2.

topheruknow · 3 points · Posted at 05:37:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Critically, this movie was nothing special. Very predictable, formulaic, unoriginal, etc. But does that mean I didn't enjoy it? HELL NO. Seriously this is one of the most fun movies I've seen in a while. The mixture between comedy and action was almost perfect. Some of the expected science mumbo jumbo was a little obnoxious but overall they did a respectable job of staying within the rules they created in that universe. I would give it a 7/10 after one watch, but this is a movie I would recommend watching because while it won't have you asking any existential questions at the end, hopefully you'll enjoy yourself like I did. : )

ZeroWil · 3 points · Posted at 05:41:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

So did anyone else think that Yellowjacket's lasers sound just like the speeder bike blasters from Star Wars when they're being fired? The credits even had Skywalker Sound/Lucasarts listed for providing sounds/sound mixing.

byPlatosBeard · 2 points · Posted at 06:59:54 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The last scene before the credits, the chick knew a guy who swings and crawls up walls. Wonder what red and blue spandex wearing and arachnid themed hero that could be referring to...

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 12:39:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Side note, that was Anna Akana, a Youtuber, I'm glad that they are getting jobs in mainstream movies, like KassemG in Transformers:AoE.

underthegod · 2 points · Posted at 09:45:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Loved the movie, but was anyone else a little disappointed we didn't get a taste of giant man? I know it's early and it can still happen, but when Scott escapes from sub atomic levels I was sure he was going to get too big. Maybe they're saving it for Civil War.

Pdecker · 3 points · Posted at 12:24:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think they hinted at it when his costume had blue instead of the red. I think that they showed that Pym had been working on it so I think it is very likely we will see it in civil war or at the latest Infinity War.

That_one_cool_dude · 4 points · Posted at 18:52:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Man Marvel just keeps hitting them out of the park. This was a fun movie and was really good keeping it on the home front which the Scott ant man is all about. Also the little easter eggs and nods to the comics were amazing and Luis is one of the best non superheroic characters in the entire MCU. This is tied with my number one movie of the year which now has 3 movies competing for the spot.

MuddySocks · 4 points · Posted at 19:10:29 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The Dad Cop annoyed me until the end when he realized Scott was a badass. I enjoyed the movie especially seeing Scott beat up the guards and the Falcon.

Foxhack · 5 points · Posted at 02:11:17 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I saw him and said "Oh, he's an asshole cop. Again. Dude gets typecast a lot." But I like that he turned around and respected Scott, and accepted him as part of the family.

GamingTatertot · 3 points · Posted at 03:45:02 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Thank you! Cannavale is always casted as an asshole! It was a pleasant surprise to see him turn around by the end

rubyanjel · 2 points · Posted at 14:07:53 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Him showing the video of Cassy's cartwheel to Scott made my heart swell.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 20:00:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

So this movie is literally Iron Man. Had the same tone. Same style of the three acts. Both incarcerated. Both escape using suits. Both end up fighting the villain in a similar suit. Training montage. And the same one liner at the end. I loved it though

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 05:32:22 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Didn't Iron Man end with "I am the Iron Man"? This one ended with "yea!"

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:37:28 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Different words but had the same feeling to me

Sadsharks · 3 points · Posted at 00:05:24 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

This movie was almost ruined by Evangeline Lilly's haircut.

AtillaTheHung · 2 points · Posted at 02:12:13 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I mean, it's The Wasp's signature haircut, so I can see why they'd give her that haircut.

Portgas · 1 points · Posted at 12:25:13 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought it looked great

Fooliomcskippy · 1 points · Posted at 08:53:17 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

In your opinion. I have a thing for women with that style of hair so it really only added to it for me.

HYDRAtedathlete · 2 points · Posted at 08:06:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really liked the way they showed how Ant-Man can stand with the Avengers through the use of the Falcon fight scenes, it wasn't forced in there just for an MCU connection, it was to show that he deserved to be an avenger.

Keiichi81 · 3 points · Posted at 17:01:44 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

So the shrinking tech is explained by Pym as operating by reducing the empty space between atoms. This is supported by the fact that objects supposedly retain their mass no matter their size, which explains why Scott "hits like a 200 lbs man" even when shrunken, with all that force concentrated into something the size of a pinhead. That's why Hope explains that if he hits someone too hard it'll be like shooting them with a bullet.

Why then does Scott appear to weigh less when shrunken? He can stand on someone's shoulder without them knowing. Why was that tank able to be carried on Hank's keychain when it should weigh several tonnes? Furthermore, how can something which operates by reducing empty space between atoms ever reach a sub-atomic level? Scott is still composed of atoms - the space between them is all that's shrinking - so he could never reach the size of an atom himself, let alone go smaller than that.

Vlinux · 1 points · Posted at 03:18:57 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wasn't there some kind of density control as part of it as well?

shaneo632 · 8 points · Posted at 13:36:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

It was just OK really. I thought it was super generic given the insane premise. Kinda reflects my feelings on Jurassic World - "functional, but should've tried much, much harder"

The action was fun but everything else was just pure template, the family story, all the soap opera stuff, the generic villain, the romance, TV-style cinematography etc.

Surprised the reviews have been so kind to it. I thought it was pretty dull in parts, climax was fun though.

EDIT: Also, BASKIN ROBBINS, BASKIN ROBBINS, BASKIN ROBBINS. /r/cringe

BritishHobo · 7 points · Posted at 16:47:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Is Kevin Feige a hypnotist, or something? I know, subjectivity and all that, but Marvel films seem to get credit far above what they're actually doing. Other films get torn apart for exactly the bland, formulaic lack of imagination pretty much all of these films exhibit, and yet somehow everyone just keeps saying that each new Marvel film is brilliant.

CigaretteBurn12 · 4 points · Posted at 08:59:54 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yep, no idea. I was bored for for about an hour and fifteen minutes. The only real fun moments happened about 30 minutes left into the movie.

alomtegenwoordig · 4 points · Posted at 02:33:08 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Maybe because they're so... mint and shiny?

I'm still salty about getting downvoted for saying anything negative about the MCU movies in this sub.

vidiyan2857 · 0 points · Posted at 15:12:55 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Don't fucking bullshit. MCU hate has been the latest flavour of the month on this sub.

alomtegenwoordig · 5 points · Posted at 23:02:39 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

No bullshitting here. This thread is a perfect example. The MCU fanatics still outweigh the MCU critics. Just look at how low the comment (a day ago) is about pointing out the film was merely okay/average. And look how high the comment is about calling out the critics as cynical and the film was the greatest thing ever.

The only time an MCU critic can not get buried in the main movie sub is if they actually make a dedicated thread about it. That's the flavor of the month but I'm sure later on there will be another thread about how critics are wrong and they don't know how to have fun.

Fooliomcskippy · 0 points · Posted at 09:19:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Throughout the history of the MCU they've successfully established very likable and interesting hero characters that the audiences love, and also simultaneously established a very interesting universe with a lot to offer. People really like this universe and these characters. So when another film in this long series comes out with the potential to introduce another interesting character or give another glimpse at an interesting part of the universe, people flock to it and praise it. The marvel films are fun movies with very linear and predictable storylines, I think what you all need to realize is when people talk about a marvel film as being brilliant or amazing, they're saying this as a comparison to other marvel films, not to the wide scope of film. Ant-Man is a cut above the rest in terms of stand-alone marvel superhero movies, it's much better than say, Thor or Captain America.

Also, if you don't like them, don't see them.

Sad_King_Billy · 8 points · Posted at 16:23:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wow, I'm really surprised at all the love this is getting. I thought it was a real letdown. Boring action, lame humor, and a clichéd villian. Definitely not worth the ticket price.

CigaretteBurn12 · 12 points · Posted at 09:02:09 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Sucks anything negative about the movie is getting downvoted. Totally agree with you.

yesindeedio79 · 2 points · Posted at 14:17:29 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

I could take the downvotes if people actually responded to my comment to open a discussion, but that hasnt been the case.

[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 02:32:55 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

If any MCU movie didn't blow you away your opinion is WRONG

zackmanze · 5 points · Posted at 03:45:47 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Kinda mediocre. I don't totally regret spending my money, but part of me does.

5-6/10

[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 02:15:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

While I really enjoyed the movie, a lot of jokes missed and missed really really bad.

50_shades_of_clay · 2 points · Posted at 06:34:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I agree. I had the same problem with Guardians of the galaxy. The jokes are forced. In IRON MAN the humor is from Starks personality. These more recent movies the humor is coming from jokes... that fall flat.

Dart06 · 1 points · Posted at 06:09:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Depends on your humor. I laughed at just about everything in it.

_that_oneguy_ · 10 points · Posted at 04:09:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I feel like they could've had Scott see a spider when he was small and ask Hank if he could control it and Hank replies with "No, you're not called spider man"

[deleted] · 110 points · Posted at 12:57:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

This is why movies aren't written by committee on the Internet. No offense...but that's terrible.

Mordby · -12 points · Posted at 19:12:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yea guys he's a movie veteran, we should listen to him.

mfranko88 · 14 points · Posted at 06:54:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

This is the biggest travesty in cinema history.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 17:57:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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mfranko88 · 1 points · Posted at 18:40:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

A missed opportunity in a good movie is more unfortunate than a bad thing in a bad movie.

Like....TPM is a bad movie. Of course it has bad things. What would you expect out of it? That's just the nature of the beast!

ksaid1 · 24 points · Posted at 17:31:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

yeah man and they could have had him see a black panther, or he could have said to hank "you're a really strange doctor", or he could have looked directly into the camera and screamed CAPTAIN MARVEL

giggles288 · -5 points · Posted at 13:50:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"You're not the Spider-man, that one is taken."

[deleted] · 12 points · Posted at 17:57:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

because fuck subtlety

giggles288 · -4 points · Posted at 18:07:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought it would be a fun nod to Spider-man 2 when JJ says for Doc Ock his villain name should be Doctor Strange, but he realizes it's taken.

ldnk · 3 points · Posted at 01:54:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I always find Metacritic seems to end up slightly harsh on their average rating. This was a downright fun movie. Not a great movie, but an extremely fun and enjoyable movie throughout.

Gverreiro · 2 points · Posted at 02:25:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeh its more of a 75% for me.

SheWasEighteen · 3 points · Posted at 04:51:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

This was almost as fun as Guardians of the Galaxy, the fight scenes were some of the best and most creative I have ever seen. All the performances were spectacular minus a few awkward scenes with Evangeline Lilly. The film was fantastically funny (Michael Pena was the highlight of this film) with clever dialogue. This is a must watch.

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 05:29:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"We've got people that fly, We've got people that SWING, we've got people that CLIMB WALLS"

that was when it hit me, MCU SPIDEY IS HAPPENING HOLY SHIT

ifknlovela · 3 points · Posted at 06:15:00 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Favorite Marvel Movie Yet!

1.) Ant-Man 2.) GoTG 3.) Winter Soldier

sum1rand0m · 2 points · Posted at 06:20:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I agree on your first 2 rankings, not much of a fan of winter soldier. But I loved Ant-Man and it was a great film to end phase 2.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 07:22:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wasn't Ant-Man supposed to be the start of Phase 3 though?

sum1rand0m · 3 points · Posted at 07:25:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nope Ant-Man is still phase 2. Phase 3 starts with Captain America Civil War in 2016.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 07:53:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ahh well that kind if makes sense but I feel like it would work better as the start of Phase 3, although honestly the differentiation of the phases always seemed silly outside of the business side of it to me.

Antrix32 · 4 points · Posted at 02:11:23 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Definately held up by its comedy and Paul Rudds performance. Otherwise the story was pretty cliche and a especially boring antagonist. Still ended up enjoying it.

Never would have thought id end up enjoying Ant Man more than Avengers 2.

Gimmeyourfingernails · 4 points · Posted at 19:41:29 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

So, I liked the film but it's probably going to be the most forgettable Marvel movie so far.

It was interesting to play 'spot the Edgar Wright parts', his finger prints are all over this movie - which is also a failure for it since Edgar really knows how to direct a movie.

Lastly, I don't know why they didn't skip ahead a year or so when he went subatomic. They echoed the phrase 'space and time' about 15 times but then he comes back the very same moment. He should have appeared in a rebuilt bedroom and had a moment with his daughter who thought he was gone forever. Also since this is a new 'phase' for marvel they could have fast-forwarded any plot baggage they have for Civil War by a year and have Hank find his wife in a later film and her be the same age ala Cap. A missed opportunity I think.

BigTaker · 1 points · Posted at 01:08:28 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

What point would the time jump have served?

BigTaker · 1 points · Posted at 03:01:36 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Downvoting me doesn't answer: what (dramatic/thematic) purpose would the time jump have served?

krissyjump · 4 points · Posted at 04:01:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I thought Ant-Man was slightly above average with flashes of brilliance. When the movie shined it's hard not to fall completely in love with it, but what doesn't work really doesn't work.

The humor was really good and I liked the tone of it overall while the cast in general was fantastic. Michael Pena totally stole the show and strangely enough I thought Evangeline Lilly was pretty stiff early on. Falcon's cameo was terrific and one of the best scenes of the film. I didn't really care for the step-father and thought the time spent on him could have been put to better use. I was impressed by Corey Stoll's performance, and while I wouldn't say he was great I think he really commanded the screen even if I think Darren Cross is one of the weaker villains in the MCU.

The fact that the Particles are having an effect on his mind has no actual impact or weight within the film. It's actually pretty meaningless since we never got to see what Cross was like previously, he was just too antagonistic and evil right from the get go. It was all tell no show, and that's actually where many of my complaints with Ant-Man come from. We're told so much but the movie actually shows very little of what its talking about, for example we're frequently told about how close Hope is to Darren but the film barely shows it. The pacing was surprisingly fast, too much for its own good. There was a lot that the film could have expanded up but really fails to explore.

I don't think Ant-Man was the best Phase 2 film but it wasn't the worst either. It was better than Thor: The Dark World but comes up just short behind Iron Man 3.

chardeemac · 1 points · Posted at 23:18:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Very weird to me that someone could think the Falcon cameo was one of the best parts of the film, but oh well.

It felt like it was shot separately by a different film crew in an afternoon with the production values of a Subway advert, or a silly dvd extra that somehow was added into the actual film

For me it was the worst scene by far and was really out of place

krissyjump · 3 points · Posted at 06:20:47 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

You know what, I'll agree that it wasn't the best scene and that production value seemed lower. After thinking about it I was just sort of geeking out at that scene because I'd had a fair bit of the movie spoiled for me but somehow hadn't heard about that, it was a nice surprise. My favorite scenes, or at least the ones that stand out in my mind the most, are probably Michael Pena's and the more comedic bits in general.

sum1rand0m · 1 points · Posted at 05:35:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Harsh, Ant-Man has made it in my top 3 MCU movies of all time. This movie was way better than Iron Man 3, Avengers 2, and even Winter Soldier to me. Ant-Man was a great stand alone film.

krissyjump · 3 points · Posted at 05:46:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

As unpopular as my opinion may be, I think Age of Ultron was easily the best Marvel film so far. The amount of hate it gets is seriously disheartening and I just really can't grasp most of the complaints.

I may have sounded a bit harsh on Ant-Man but I really did love it! The movie fully embraced what it was unrepentantly and when it's good, it's so good that it's easy to overlook its flaws! I just happened to have loved all of Phase 2 so far (with the exception of Thor the Dark World). I'm a big Shane Black fan so I really hold Iron Man 3 in higher esteem than most , so when I say that Ant-Man is just short of it, that's a compliment!

My Marvel film ranking so far is...

Age of Ultron
Guardians of the Galaxy
The Avengers
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Iron Man 3
Iron Man
Ant-Man
Captain America: The First Avenger
Thor
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor The Dark World

sum1rand0m · 1 points · Posted at 06:14:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nice list, I actually agree with 8-12 in that exact order. It is your 1-7 that I don't agree on. But it's all personal opinion. But Ant-Man was a great ending to phase 2. Can't wait for phase 3 :D

krissyjump · 2 points · Posted at 16:19:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

But Ant-Man was a great ending to phase 2. Can't wait for phase 3 :D

I can't agree more! I thought Age of Ultron was pretty heavy at times so Ant-Man is a really refreshing reprieve before jumping into Civil War!

PvtJebbers · 1 points · Posted at 05:22:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Might be an unpopular opinion, but did anyone else not really care for the Falcon fight? Just seemed really unnecessary.

Loved the movie though. The cast especially Michael Douglas and Michael Pena were great.

ManateeofSteel · 2 points · Posted at 16:13:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

At first, I wasn't excited, but I got carried away by the comments of this subreddit and the reviews, so I watched it with only 2 friends because no one else wanted to watch it, and all I got was disappointment. The movie is funny, yes. But I can't think of anything else that was good about the movie, other than the digital effects which are always great. Take Guardians of the Galaxy (my favorite Marvel movie of Phase 2): it's funny, can get serious from time to time, has a surprisingly amazing soundtrack and the action scenes are great. AntMan has nothing other than very funny characters. GoG had a weak villain, but this movie had the weakest amd most generic villain so far. Thomas the Engine was the best cameo, but it was spoiled in the trailers. Honestly, I can't recommend the movie, comparing it to Iron Man 1 and GoG is not fair. This movie is really not up to par with those

CrepuscularMoondance · 3 points · Posted at 01:00:05 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can we just talk about how awesome it is that last month Cheryl/Carol from Archer was in Jurassic World, playing a mum, and now she's in Ant-man...also playing a mum?

zosorose · 4 points · Posted at 01:46:18 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I can't believe that's Cheryl

scarletcrawford · 2 points · Posted at 07:09:25 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not really awesome for her though. :-( She always gets the small mum roles. Even her autobiography was called 'I don't know what you know me from'.

neoblackdragon · 1 points · Posted at 00:58:46 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Better to be generally recognized then well known for that one role way back when.

shaneo632 · 2 points · Posted at 20:50:02 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

You mean Judy Greer? She's a pretty well known actress outside of a niche cartoon.

Minifig81 · 3 points · Posted at 01:41:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved this. So much fun. :D

monetized_account · 4 points · Posted at 04:03:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Every Marvel™ movie I've seen has been life-changing and I'm sure this will be just more of the same!

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 02:41:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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suss2it · 2 points · Posted at 03:59:41 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

You can't bring up downvotes and "but whatever" in the same sentence. Bringing it up in the first place already shows you care, so it's too late to be dismissive about it later. That being said I'd love to see that flowchart because I agree that MCU movies are all similarly structured and it'd be cool to see a visual representation of that. Hopefully DC will force them to up their game and move away from that.

kwoddle · 2 points · Posted at 11:34:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I tried so hard to like this movie. I mean, on paper it sounds great. It's a cool premise, the hero has an actually interesting power, and it seems like the perfect setup for the usual Marvel blend of light humour and action. But it just... didn't work. At all. The action set pieces were boring, and not a single joke landed. I saw it in a packed 400+ seat theatre, and nothing got more than a mild chuckle from the audience.

I can't figure out how they screwed it up. I mean, the big final fight scene took place on a Thomas the Tank Engine playset, and a giant Thomas burst out of a house and crushed a cop car... That sounds fucking amazing! And yet, somehow the execution made it boring as fuck. HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT BORING?

suss2it · 6 points · Posted at 04:28:42 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

The fact that this got downvoted shows how insecure Marvel fans are.

BritishHobo · 3 points · Posted at 16:45:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, my cinema was dead quiet for pretty much the entire film aside from the Thomas the Tank Engine gag.

homeboi808 · 3 points · Posted at 12:31:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

My whole theatre (very large IMAX 3D theater) was cracking up throughout the movie, starting with Peña's character talking about what happened since they met, his girl left, his mom died, his dad got deported, but he got the van though.

Irreversible_Rape · 2 points · Posted at 06:41:55 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

switch to 'controversial' to get some real, non nuthugging opinions. Its typical of Reddit to circle jerk over anything that have the Marvel brand on it, switch to get some real opinions

Pollonius · 1 points · Posted at 22:58:47 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I enjoyed but my wife loved it. She couldnt stop talking about it driving home. So i understand your point. Her favorite movie is the Goonies, so she really likes bloodless funny action adventures. (Nearly bloodless I guess in Antman)

Murder_Boners · -1 points · Posted at 08:43:35 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Oh. I wasn't aware that opinions you don't agree with aren't real.

SutterCane · 0 points · Posted at 21:33:07 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

You don't get it, do you? This is the new r/movies mandate, people who like the MCU are idiot liars that don't enjoy real movies. /s

Murder_Boners · -1 points · Posted at 23:17:33 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Damn, I didn't get the memo that I was supposed to enjoy those movies. I guess I'll have to go back to painfully enduring those Meryl Strep cancer movies about sadness and the futility of life.

BigTaker · 0 points · Posted at 00:54:22 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wise up.

fantoman · 2 points · Posted at 01:58:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone else think they didn't evacuate that building thoroughly? There wasn't much time and there were a lot of people in there. People totally could have died.

sugar_free_haribo · 4 points · Posted at 03:04:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Pena knocks two guys out cold, starts to leave, and then remembers to drag out the hogtied head of security from a locked room. But what happened to the other two guys?

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:10:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Presumably Hydra? Eh, can't save everyone.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 05:11:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Don't worry about it.

the-great-radsby · 2 points · Posted at 02:09:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If there's one thing I learned from this film, it's that people need to learn to close their doors.

autisticface · 2 points · Posted at 02:31:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think my favorite part was Micheal Pena telling his stories, also I was pleasantly surprised when Anna Akana showed up in this. I think "FUN" is the prefect adjective to describe this movie. I will watch it again.

oakleysds · 2 points · Posted at 02:39:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

So a bit of theory crafting but could the subatomic realm be related to the Infinity Stones in anyway?

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:52:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It didn't not feel like that. Until the whole...love will find a way part.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:57:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

My friend said he expected to see Scott trapped in the reality stone, like the whole universe is inside it and it contains itself. But in actuality, the reality stone was in the Collector's place last we saw it and all that's left is Time and Soul.

br7anjc · 2 points · Posted at 03:23:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Baskin Robbins always finds out

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 04:21:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

One of the best Marvel movies to date in my opinion. I was nearly crying it was so funny.

warioguy · 2 points · Posted at 04:22:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Loved this movie that part where Scott kept shifting out of the dirt had me rolling, when he went super atomic was really trippy and when he fought The Falcon was really well done The falcon never had a chance

58592825866 · 2 points · Posted at 04:26:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

How was the post credits scene?

RadiantViper · 1 points · Posted at 07:08:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

There's 2, and they were both very nice set ups.

58592825866 · 1 points · Posted at 08:35:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Any thanos?

RadiantViper · 1 points · Posted at 08:49:35 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

No Thanos. Civil War set up.

mrwelchman · 2 points · Posted at 05:45:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

was anyone else a little surprised at how easy ant-man got one over on falcon? like, shit. ant-man beat falcon, who managed to capture the winter soldier.

RadiantViper · 3 points · Posted at 07:05:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Scott had the element of surprise, Sam had never fought anything like him before. Winter Soldier is just that - a soldier, just a very advanced one, soldiers are what Sam is used to fighting.

GlenCoco701 · 2 points · Posted at 07:45:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

this is my favourite Marvel movie to come out in a while, it strays away from the standard marvel formula which is refreshing. It's the funniest one by far and Paul Rudd absolutely nails it. The last time I enjoyed a Marvel movie that much was The Avengers. It's also nice that the Avengers are not the heroes and in one way the enemy. I think that 65/100 is pretty insulting. It's a fun action comedy, will definitely be watching this one again

namesrhardtothinkof · 2 points · Posted at 08:07:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Is it just me, or was that subatomic bit pretty much Marvel does the ending of Interstellar?

alexdinhogaucho · 2 points · Posted at 15:37:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Soooo, Evangeline Lilly is great!

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:21:52 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I popped huge when mustachioed John Slattery appeared in the opening.

Gamewolf66 · 2 points · Posted at 01:00:55 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

So glad the child actor didn't suck

Cough WaroftheWorlds

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:31:00 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone notice that Paxton's cop partner was Julius from Remember The Titans?

Dr-DuB · 9 points · Posted at 10:28:15 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I believe you mean notorious gangster Avon Barksdale.

Whiplash0409 · 2 points · Posted at 02:04:19 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

114 million dollars first weekend (world wide), good work Ant Man!

ExtraDip · 2 points · Posted at 03:58:28 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

This movie was so fun and exciting to watch. I loved watching Luis explain how he got the jobs

SexyLionTamer · 2 points · Posted at 04:27:55 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Had been waiting for this movie for a long time. Wasn't disappointed! My only complaint is the villain! The scene where he was about to kidnap Scotts daughter, he was so eerie and creepy, it was cool! He really seemed EVIL, otherwise he just came off as generic "bad guy".

Saviero88 · 2 points · Posted at 06:02:15 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

What's up with the Ex Shield guy leaving with the Yellow jacket formula? Is it leading into something for future Ant Man movies or something deeper in the MCU?

SToddB33 · 5 points · Posted at 04:00:42 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Setting up sequels as the guy was a member of HYDRA.

ltalix · 3 points · Posted at 08:12:53 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

My bet would be Agents of SHIELD tie-in.

Vlinux · 1 points · Posted at 03:25:20 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

YES! I was really excited to see that AoS tie-in with the Hydra guys.

sav86 · 2 points · Posted at 08:58:41 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Marvel is good at doing individual character movies and great at setting/selling up hype with future projects. That being said I loved the movie and thought Pena was a godsend for the comedic moments. Paul Rudd was great and I'm a huge fan of Evangeline and her acting was good, but I feel she was miscast'd for this movie and I'm not sold on her role as Wasp. I do agree with the "meh" opinion on the villain and it really should be something to consider for future Marvel movies because this movie was fairly cookie cutter in terms of plot. Considering how much I disliked Avengers 2, I'm glad Marvel had another decent movie in it's pocket to drop.

young__sandwich · 2 points · Posted at 13:49:24 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Marvel once again killed off a villain. How disappointing. I really enjoyed Yellow Jacket and thought Corey Stoll killed it as a villain. Wish they would have kept him around.

JupitersClock · 1 points · Posted at 22:03:41 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Same. I was hoping Hydra would intervene seeing how important Cross was.

SToddB33 · 0 points · Posted at 03:59:25 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's based off comic books, no one is truly dead.

iskrenstrumf · 2 points · Posted at 23:47:46 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ok I'm here to mess up the party and to gather some downvotes but I'm starting to get bored by the Marvel movies. The villain is always lacking, his motives are shit and the jokes aren't that good. Some action sequels were amazing but the plot was terrible. They have to try a bit harder cause this is not amusing as it use to be.

BladeRush48 · 1 points · Posted at 09:16:06 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

You shouldn't be getting downvoted. I thought a lot of the jokes were predictable.

topherthepest · 2 points · Posted at 03:55:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

If you could only see one movie in 3D this year, it should be Antman. The scene where he'd flying through the servers. Awesome!!!

southernknight · 3 points · Posted at 04:03:40 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Do you want ants!? Because that's how you get ants!

trippymickey · 3 points · Posted at 04:04:22 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did anyone else notice Yellowjackets gun noises were the same as those from the blaster a in Star Wars?

PMme_JonahHill_nudes · 2 points · Posted at 21:49:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

They did their best with what they had, but in the end all I could do was wonder how glorious it would have been had Edgar Wright finished it.

gatorpower · 2 points · Posted at 03:51:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I just came back from this movie and loved it.

Pros:

Didn't have the typical "oh crap, if we don't win, the world is going to end feeling" that has been gnawing on me with other Marvel movies lately.

Very light-hearted and "cute" for long periods. And I don't mean "cute" in the campy, good, but not great kind of way. I mean, it genuinely feels like it's targeted towards your inner kid.

The movie picks up steam as it goes along. It feels like a lot of comic book movies has a great opening, but then it gets really predictable. This felt like the characters were being developed in an interesting, but not really exciting way at first, but the pay off steam rolls as you feel invested in them at the end.

Speaking of the end, it had a good pace and felt understandable/natural. I have been hating how the end of comic book movies have 100 things happening at once and you have to pay attention. It played well.

Paul Rudd's Scott Lang is easily one of the most likable book characters in the Marvel universe now. It's just a very genuine, down-to-earth characterization. He doesn't need humanizing moments that a Tony Stark would. He already feels human and 3-dimensional.

Very well cast. I was scared that some of the characters wouldn't play well with each other, but the entire cast had great chemistry.

Cons:

Didn't feel "epic" or "grand" the way Iron Man or the Avengers felt. At times, felt like a really good "set up" movie without delivering the 'holy crap!" feeling.

Although I felt the casting was good, some of the characters were very one-dimensional. Take, for instance, Scott Lang's criminal friends. Zero development, zero believability. Same goes for his ex wife's new cop husband. I felt the character tried too hard to be jerk.

Felt it tired a bit too hard to tie itself in with the Marvel universe. There was a lot of background name dropping.

Overall, an 83/100 an exceeding all my expectations.

sum1rand0m · 2 points · Posted at 05:38:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Sometimes the best heroes are the little guys fighting for the ones they love. It didn't have to be "grand" to show real heroism. Personally I felt nothing was forced, it tied in well with the MCU. And was still a good stand alone film. Ant-Man has made it in my top 3 MCU movies.

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 12:17:50 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Pros:

Utterly unique stylistic choices unlike any other Marvel film. I'm talking about the shrinking scenes of course. When Scott first goes small (particularly in the club), the falling briefcase fight, and the shrinking to a subatomic dimension scenes were all fucking AMAZING and a really bold use of style for Marvel.
Funniest Marvel movie to date. <3 u Edgar Wright.
Hank Pym was an interesting character with a dark past that still stayed rather hidden. Pym was also more important to the story than I thought he would have been.
I actually enjoyed the villain. His motives made sense to me.

Cons:

Comic relief characters took a little bit away from the tension at times.
Hated the one dimensional step father/cop character.
Hope Pym felt a little out of place at times, and the forced chemistry between her and Scott wasn't needed.
Some cheesy/tropey dialogue and plot

Overall I liked it a bunch. 7.5/10

My other MCU film ratings:

Captain America: The Winter Soldier 9/10

Iron Man 8.5/10

Captain America 8/10

Thor 8/10

Guardians of the Galaxy 7.5/10

The Incredible Hulk 7.5/10 (I liked it)

Avengers 7/10

Thor: The Dark World 7/10

Avengers: Age of Ultron 6/10

Iron Man 2 5/10

Iron Man 3 5/10

yumdomcha · 2 points · Posted at 04:13:16 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone else feel like they shoehorned in the whole Falcon and Avengers scene? It honestly didn't feel natural to me.

prophetofgreed · 3 points · Posted at 07:23:18 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I felt it worked because like all heist movies there's always the test run before the big heist for the climax.

chardeemac · 0 points · Posted at 07:49:02 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Yup it was weird. Also on another level I was a bit weirded out he went straight to live ammo, I think if they kept it hand to hand would have been better . The gun bit where he did the signature dual guns move and pose in the air definitely felt unnecessarily shoehorned in

suss2it · 2 points · Posted at 04:42:07 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It reminded me of the Avengers Assemble cartoon where they constantly force shots from the movies into the cartoon.

GamingTatertot · 1 points · Posted at 04:27:05 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought it worked well. Also the fight scene between Falcon and Ant Man was pretty cool.

yumdomcha · 2 points · Posted at 12:33:40 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah I definitely enjoyed it, I just didn't seem right though. Probably because it's never happened in another origin movie where it's happened so quick to being tied into the universe (or has it?)

GamingTatertot · 1 points · Posted at 12:38:24 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

You could argue it happened quick in Captain America considering we meet Howard Stark...but eh that might be pushing it.

wingzero00 · 3 points · Posted at 01:38:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

The movie was really good, and funny at times but it follows the same marvel formula such as a villian. It was good however and the credits scene got me so hyped up for civil war. I would expect the same or greater level from other new marvel movies eg. dr.strange and black panther. I didnt like Evangeline's role in the film, it felt forced to say the least. Found this better than age of ultron.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:45:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It had some very creative action scenes, good comedy that wasn't forced or annoying, they explain why the bad guy is transparently evil, and they made Ant-Man cool.

humptydumptyfall · 1 points · Posted at 02:46:57 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The young Michael Douglas makes me really miss young Michael Douglas. Also I kept thinking of this Scott.

RickeyB · 1 points · Posted at 02:47:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

For the second after credits scene I had a hard time hearing what falcon walls saying... Can anyone clear it up for me?

chris2webby · 2 points · Posted at 02:53:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

he said "if this happened last week, we'd be fine" and "can't call Stark, they probably won't let him come", something along those lines, probably meaning that he's in trouble for the events of Age Of Ultron

homeboi808 · 1 points · Posted at 02:50:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He knows a guy.

dmtry · 1 points · Posted at 03:10:15 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

First off I really enjoyed the movie. I am a sucker for heist films, and I think it pulled it off well. However did anyone else feel it was pretty poorly edited? I feel like there were lots of scenes cut, and there were times I don't think things were explained well.

PenXSword · 1 points · Posted at 02:03:44 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Definitely a consequence of Edgar Wright leaving. To be honest, I feel if they had delayed the movie a few months they might have been able to tighten it up, but that probably would have shaken up confidence in the project. Considering the rocky road it was on, it's pretty phenomenal it came out as well as it had.

RustyDetective · 1 points · Posted at 03:13:37 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was surprised by how awesome Ant-Man was! My fourth favorite MCU film behind GotG, Winter Soldier, and The Avengers. Michael Peña blew it out if the park and I can't wait for Star-Lord and Ant-Man to be in a scene together.

Quickee review

MrPudge · 1 points · Posted at 03:19:04 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not the best, not the worst but certainly the best cgi used movie of Marvel to date

fry9guy · 1 points · Posted at 03:37:11 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

The biggest Ant-Man development: String and Avon are both in the MCU now.

Us, man, us.

Tom38 · 1 points · Posted at 06:17:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Who?

axcairns · 1 points · Posted at 05:56:33 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Loved the movie but, as an IT guy, have they never heard of off-site backups? I remember thinking the same thing in Terminator 2 long ago

razzeldazle · 1 points · Posted at 07:27:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone else feel like it was just a little short? Maybe needed 1 more good set piece.

sum1rand0m · 1 points · Posted at 07:31:28 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone else feel like it was just a little short?

Pun intended? Lol. But seriously, I didn't think it ran short. I thought it was a bit longer than I expected.

razzeldazle · 1 points · Posted at 16:11:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Lol I didn't even think of that. It just felt quick to me, good, but quick

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 10:38:44 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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Gverreiro · 1 points · Posted at 13:53:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Seems that DC has the chance to make it better , especially on the eventual Justice League movie

nofx1978 · 1 points · Posted at 10:59:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I am a passive follower of the MCU, in that I have seen all the movies, but do not understand all the references. I have read there are several hints towards Spider-Man in this film. Can anyone break it down and point to who says what? So far I have read three different opinons on the "One guy who swings, one guy who crawls," qoute. This is a direct reference to Spider-Man correct?

tymaster50 · 1 points · Posted at 11:15:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

who else swings and crawls lol

nofx1978 · 1 points · Posted at 11:25:56 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I get the "swinging" hero as Spidey, but some people in this thread have interpreted it to mean that there are three different guys. I haven't seen Ant-Man yet and probably will not see it in theaters. I just needed the quote in context.

tymaster50 · 1 points · Posted at 11:36:31 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

it's Michael Pena doing his recall of a conversation a woman had with some guy(might have been Falcon himself actually), who was reporting to Falcon(if it wasn't Falcon)

I think this is how it went (i'm 85% sure of it) "I need a guy" "We have a guy who swings, a guy who crawls, a guy who flies(? not sure if i got the last one right) blah blah blah "I need a guy... who shrinks" "cut to it Luis" "They said yes" then it ends.

nofx1978 · 1 points · Posted at 11:42:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Got it. Thank you sir. Makes a lot more sense now.

jamespcoyle · 1 points · Posted at 12:38:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

More fun stuff about Ant-Man in the latest Grown Ass Men podcast: http://adambernsteinbass.podomatic.com/entry/2015-07-08T18_51_16-07_00

Hammerosu · 1 points · Posted at 12:45:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Was falcon the only person working at the avengers facility? I mean who was he talking to on the radio?

Inspace96 · 3 points · Posted at 13:02:10 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

He was the only member on base, probably because Cap sent the rest of the team on a training mission or it was a misssion that didn't need Falcon.

Invanof · 1 points · Posted at 13:01:17 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Am I the only who no noticed the line

" We got a guy who swings, we got a guy who climbs wall"?!?!

Spidey is already in MCU kicking ass!

deltadal · 1 points · Posted at 13:31:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

yup. Awesome.

bargman · 1 points · Posted at 13:06:12 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It doesn't come out in Korea till September:(

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:00:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wow, that's awful. Just keep rewatching AoU 'til then!

drag0nfl · 1 points · Posted at 13:13:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did anyone actually see what we were supposed to see in the quantum realm?

"Absolutely. If you watch the movie again, and when Scott [Lang] enters the Quantum Realm (or the Microverse), keep a keen eye out [because] there might be some clues in that sequence."

chris2webby · 3 points · Posted at 13:51:13 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

some say you see a silhouette of Dr. Strange, others say you see some "Pym particles" forming the shape of a woman (possibly Janet)

drag0nfl · 1 points · Posted at 14:02:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

i guess i wasn't keen enough, totally missed it.

chris2webby · 1 points · Posted at 14:06:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

yep I missed it too. But that whole sequence was amazing.

bobbeamon · 1 points · Posted at 13:56:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Someone knows which song is played at the begin of the credits (band-/songname) ?

JayLeg · 1 points · Posted at 14:18:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Am I the only one who didn't know whether to laugh or tear up as Anttony's broken wing slowly floated to the ground? Such an emotional moment but at the same time ridiculously humorous. Only Marvel can stir me up with these emotions over a freaking ant.

DrSnuggs · 1 points · Posted at 14:19:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Can some one explain the drinking mental instability thing. I must have missed something in the movie explaining it. ;(

Edit I ment shrinking/ particles

chris2webby · 1 points · Posted at 15:51:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

when was this? I don't recall.

DrSnuggs · 1 points · Posted at 00:52:53 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I ment shrinking/particles. Hank says he has used the suit to much and can put it on. And they say it once more to cross when they are at gunpoint.

chris2webby · 1 points · Posted at 00:59:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

He doesn't specifically say why he can't put the suit on any more. He just says "I've used it so much, it's taken a toll on me". Probably meaning he's too old to be running around and jumping, and also the guilt of Janet dying.

DrSnuggs · 1 points · Posted at 01:05:05 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Maybe some thing in the future then.

The_Crow · 1 points · Posted at 14:41:58 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was too slow to catch the complete context of Luis' (Michael Peña) final narration, and therefore got lost on the punchline. Can someone help out?

chris2webby · 2 points · Posted at 15:50:20 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

his cousin had heard that there was a guy looking for "a superhero who could shrink", and that guy was Falcon. Falcon was asking around if anyone knew Antman, possibly wanting him to join The Avengers. The end-credits scene goes along with this.

chardeemac · 1 points · Posted at 08:23:38 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Hm If he came to mind but they can't get near to talk to him, What are the odds that they need antman to sneak in and steal some tech from Tony, and if so what might it be

Maybe a memory thing,if antman can get a sample of extremis it might bring bucks memory back

homeboi808 · 2 points · Posted at 15:52:23 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Falcon was asking Anna Akana's character if she new a guy (Scott), she then said there's lots of guys, and threw out a Spider-Man reference.

MrChipelo · 1 points · Posted at 14:51:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Question: When Antman meets Falcon, does his theme play from the Winter Soldier? With an electric guitar and horns?

Cenoflame · 1 points · Posted at 14:55:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Didn't Hope tell him that his punches could do a lot of damage if he wanted? Everyone he fought got back up pretty fast.

chris2webby · 3 points · Posted at 15:48:26 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

she said he had to be careful with his punches. Too strong a punch would kill someone, too weak a punch would just feel like a light tap.

ObviouslySteve · 1 points · Posted at 17:10:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really enjoyed it. Paul Rudd's character was annoyingly meta at time's and Hope was an annoying and useless character, but other then that it was really funny and had some great action scenes.

poondi · 1 points · Posted at 21:07:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really like the movie, but I wish more time was spent on the ants. Especially Antony. Like, controlling all these ants is kinda crazy but is sort of handwaved away. Also, when he freaked out in the tunnels and grew, doesn't he kill them all?

mastyrwerk · 1 points · Posted at 21:45:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anybody find it strange that they didn't cast Janet Van Dyne?

Is this because they might bring her back in later phases, and so chose not to cast her yet?

If they did bring her back, would she be young? She went subatomic and they mentioned "time" so could she be brought back decades later and have no time pass for her?

Would we have two Wasps?

RadiantViper · 2 points · Posted at 22:31:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not really, they want to keep it ambiguous if she'll return or not. You cast someone, then people will ask if she has a contract, pay attention if she talks about upcoming Marvel films, etc.

mastyrwerk · 1 points · Posted at 22:48:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Exactly, they have no difinitive plans at this time; I'm sure.

But they left the seeds there. She isn't "dead" dead, you know? She's not Coulson dead. She's Red Skull dead.

speedy621 · 1 points · Posted at 21:57:01 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can someone explain the second after credits scene? I feel like it was just a filler and they were hoping for a Spider-Man appearance.

Cu4utl3 · 2 points · Posted at 22:42:18 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

After looking for Bucky (Winter Soldier), Cap and Falcon finally manages to find and capture him. They don't really tell us what is going on other than they cannot go to Tony and/or tell him about Bucky because of the "Accords" (no idea who they/it is). Also, it was implied (in Captain America 2) that Bucky killed Tony Stark's parents. Falcon mention that he knows someone that could them - Ant man. That is why Falcon was looking for Ant man at the end of the film.

RadiantViper · 1 points · Posted at 22:29:53 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's set up for Civil War. Cap and Falcon find Bucky (the Winter Soldier) but hint at problems with Tony.

REACH_ME_DAT_MILK · 1 points · Posted at 23:45:59 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Even though I wanted a Hank Pym Ant-Man movie, this one totally delivered. The humor was great and the cast was phenomenal.

cayal3 · 1 points · Posted at 00:07:24 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Also, the ONLY person at the Avengers base is Falcon?

There was no one else to help?

chris2webby · 2 points · Posted at 00:21:56 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

probably away on a side mission. And the person he was talking to was probably Maria Hill

wosh · 1 points · Posted at 13:42:28 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why would they need to be at the base? They would be out doing stuff which is the explanation for why they aren't in each others movies every time.

cayal3 · 1 points · Posted at 18:08:38 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I figured they would have more than juat the avengers members.

009reloaded · 2 points · Posted at 22:48:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

He was talking to somebody. I'm sure they figured Falcon could handle it alone.

neoblackdragon · 1 points · Posted at 22:27:00 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well if the others are busy Avenging then that's why. For all we know they are dealing with Civil War shenanigans right now.

cayal3 · 1 points · Posted at 23:01:57 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm talking your generic security-type guards.

cayal3 · 1 points · Posted at 00:14:02 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can we get one thing straight regarding the post-credit spoiler:

Capturing Bucky and not telling Stark has nothing to do with WS killing his parents.

Cap specifically mentions it has something to do with Accords (or something along those lines).

Guessing here but if Stark is part of the good guys who kill group, Stark will want to kill Bucky because he's a villain.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:33:01 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The "accords" is more than likely the new laws put into place to govern heros.

chardeemac · 1 points · Posted at 08:10:02 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Is good guys who kill a thing? Falcon was with captain America and he shot at unarmed ant man with live ammo like straight away

cayal3 · 1 points · Posted at 10:36:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

depends how it plays out.

009reloaded · 1 points · Posted at 22:47:41 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

So this scene is from Civil War, but the contents may change since the movie is still in production. Stark agrees that powers should report to the government, and should be held accountable. Cap does not. They either find Bucky like this, or trap him like this. Falcon is referring to Ant-Man.

cayal3 · 1 points · Posted at 23:02:26 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know.

DaCodster · 1 points · Posted at 00:29:55 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I give it a solid 7.5/10. Really enjoyed Ant-Man I hope to see more of Michael Douglas in the future and Louis as well.

BigTaker · 2 points · Posted at 01:15:24 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Netflix series called 'Pym', starring Michael Douglas, Evangeline Lilly, and Michael Peña.

DaCodster · 2 points · Posted at 03:32:27 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

That would be really cool!

thatguy52 · 1 points · Posted at 00:44:23 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Was anybody else surprised at how quickly ant man and Yellowjacket could get into their suits?

Overall loved the movie.

basswalker93 · 3 points · Posted at 06:09:09 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Four seconds... Four! But yeah, the movie was more than entertaining enough to make me overlook something so miniscule.

thatguy52 · 1 points · Posted at 06:36:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Totally agreed. When YEllowjacket changed in the helicopter my bs detector instantly went off, but I totally overlook it cause of how fun the movie was.

neoblackdragon · 2 points · Posted at 22:24:32 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well the Antman suit is basically a jump suit. So easy enough to slide into in I guess 10 seconds.

YellowJacket might be more like Iron Mans suit from Avengers.

deathbymoshpit · 1 points · Posted at 00:45:14 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved the effect used when shrinking. It was very comic book like where you could see quick ghost images of the character getting smaller and smaller - such a great touch

I never expected them to use Sub-Atomica or the Microverse in this film! Also, like otheres, prettty sure there were flashes of the original Wasp when Lang was on his decent getting smaller and smaller. Put that together with Hank musing in the chair at the end, I'm sure shes alive and could be rescued from this realm.

MrSnorfat · 1 points · Posted at 01:38:10 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can anyone explain to me what exactly Scott did that got him thrown in jail? From what I understand, it seems he worked for a company that was apparently stealing a bunch of money. He discovered this, tried to whistle blow, got fired, and THEN decided to give back to the people what was rightfully theirs.

If this was the case, why did everyone freaking treat him like a dirty criminal? The stepdad, his exwife, even Hank Pym all criticize him for his "criminal ways." Did he also commit a bunch of OTHER burglaries as well?

Foxhack · 3 points · Posted at 02:01:29 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

He hacked into their security system and took money from them to give back. Yep, that's a crime, regardless of intentions.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 08:21:00 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

and he put his Bentley in a swimming pool

elbenji · 2 points · Posted at 02:12:48 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ask any other whistleblower. But that was the initial charge. He does more theft after

[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 15:08:35 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nope, that is it. It is simply a sad (but played for laughs) case of art imitating life.

If you are a felon your life is over, plain and simple. Doesn't matter if it was nonviolent (drugs, etc) or an accident (duI or careless manslaughter) or Robin Hood (Scott's case); you have no idea how accurate that treatment and his life is until you've experienced it.

GamingTatertot · 1 points · Posted at 03:55:31 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ant-Man is one of my favorite superheroes and I have to say, they did him justice with this movie. The visuals, Rudd, Douglas, the fight scenes, and the comedy made this a good and enjoyable movie. 2nd funniest Marvel film behind GOTG and 3rd most enjoyable behind Avengers and GOTG.

This is also now one of 5 Marvel Studio films that I think is actually good: others being Winter Soldier, Avengers, GOTG, and Iron Man.

Jaebird0388 · 1 points · Posted at 04:34:32 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Quick question: Did that guy who was the middle man for Hydra run off with Cross's formula? I honestly can't seem to remember because of how hectic that scene went.

DrBallz444 · 2 points · Posted at 06:41:14 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah he was able to get the formula. Hydra has the formula!!

Jaebird0388 · 2 points · Posted at 14:50:49 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It would have been neat if it was AIM instead of Hydra. I mean, if Hydra can constantly come back, why not have AIM survive Iron Man 3?

DrBallz444 · 1 points · Posted at 15:14:18 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah that would have been cool, but if I remember correctly AIM in the MCU was really for Killian to develop Extremis

Jaebird0388 · 2 points · Posted at 17:32:26 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm just getting tired of Hydra. AIM is a more fun punching bag, and I just want to see MODOK in the MCU.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:35:52 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone catch what Scott's note said?

Something about 377 days till X or something? It was after it saying something about $60 for child support.

basswalker93 · 4 points · Posted at 06:03:07 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

He was counting how many days until he could see his daughter again if he went through the proper procedure of getting a job and paying child support.

SonnyWane · 1 points · Posted at 04:55:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

These are comic book movies, they don't kill of comic book characters...Ant-Man 2: Antony's Revenge

garrett1999o3 · 1 points · Posted at 05:08:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

In honor of the film I made a subreddit titled /r/ThingsHankPymKnows.

greenmask · 1 points · Posted at 06:54:31 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Quick question, how did pym's wife disable the missile if she was small enough to fit through the molecules of the metal? By that time, she should be way to small to be able to do anything?

prophetofgreed · 3 points · Posted at 07:16:17 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Probably the same deal with how Scott disabled Yellowjacket, small but still big enough to damage the machinery for a limited time.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 10:55:33 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

What was up with Hank Pym's pill bottle he put through the metal detector before the last scene? Please explain.

prophetofgreed · 4 points · Posted at 13:31:23 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Could be meds for mental issues from too much exposure to the Pym particles like what happened to Cross.

My guess anyways.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:26:52 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Good point. Thanks.

TWK128 · 1 points · Posted at 21:43:08 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Maybe it was a few of those shrink/grow discs?

neoblackdragon · 1 points · Posted at 01:12:45 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well he is pretty damn old.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 12:05:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

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lileyedmonster · 2 points · Posted at 13:46:49 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought it was the guy sitting in the foyer of the apartment building as he first walks in.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 14:28:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Had a lot of fun with it. Great conclusion to Phase 2.

Malik-Myers_ · 1 points · Posted at 14:57:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved the little Spider-Man reference they had at the end of the movie

getitgetithuh · 1 points · Posted at 15:41:09 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think Luis made this movie...well the magic between Luis and Scott. I hope his part is expanded in the sequel

r0Lf · 1 points · Posted at 16:00:58 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Saw it in 4D and it wasn't worth it. Better go with IMAX

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:05:18 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

4D?

DudeWynaut · 2 points · Posted at 18:36:56 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Nintendo's rumble pak is installed in your chair, which adds a "4th dimension" of experience to the movie.

r0Lf · 1 points · Posted at 18:30:13 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Okay, 4dx*

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:40:43 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

4DX

neoblackdragon · 1 points · Posted at 01:07:58 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It will always depend on your theater when it comes to 3D. With IMAX they typically work much harder on picture quality.

r0Lf · 1 points · Posted at 06:19:44 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

But... I am saying that the 4DX was not worth it. The shaking, wind, etc. Half of the movie was talking and the rest of it was vigorous shaking without putting any thoughts into it

MexicanMidget · 1 points · Posted at 18:58:14 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

When they said "we got someone who jumps, someone who swings, someone who crawls walls." it all sounds like seperate people, even though they are all things spiderman do?

SandmanAlcatraz · 1 points · Posted at 02:27:42 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought "jumps" could be someone who teleports, like Gordon on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., but I don't know who the "swinger" would be. Someone with a very sexy superpower?

frinkhutz · 1 points · Posted at 19:15:21 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Didn't Kevin Feige say that this was supposed to be in Phase 2? Because this was clearly Phase 3

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 19:38:38 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

This is the end of Phase 2.

frinkhutz · 2 points · Posted at 19:49:22 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah, that's what the Feige said, but: -Falcon had joined the Avengers -the floating Ultron city has already been dropped

kvdragonslayer · 1 points · Posted at 20:59:11 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think you are under the assumption that Age of Ultron wasn't also phase two

frinkhutz · 2 points · Posted at 21:02:07 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was under the assumption that Avengers 2 completed Phase 2. That was the original plan. Each Avengers would complete that Phase

GamingTatertot · 2 points · Posted at 21:46:37 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Seems like they ditched that plan. Especially considering Inhumans is part of Phase 3 and I'm pretty sure it comes after Infinity War Part II

frinkhutz · 1 points · Posted at 22:11:35 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Sounds like it. They had a good plan in the beginning. Hopefully they don't screw it up

neoblackdragon · 1 points · Posted at 22:17:16 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Quite a bit of this movie is fallout for AOU as opposed to setup for Phase 3.

neoblackdragon · 3 points · Posted at 22:16:33 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's a phase two film that follows the aftermath of Ultron and creates a lead in for phase 3. I mean I get it. Avengers provided a conclusion of sorts. This though is about exposing the new heroes. It makes more sense when you pull in Agents of Shield and Daredevil.

frinkhutz · 1 points · Posted at 23:28:50 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Daredevil was only loosely connected to the mcu, though. Anyway, it all makes sense if you end phase 2 with ant man instead of avengers 2, but that's less climactic

neoblackdragon · 1 points · Posted at 01:06:57 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well I include DD just in the sense that is after the Battle of NYC and is pretty low on the Avengers radar.

They had to make a call and they put Ant Man on the end to stay on schedule. Remember this thing was supposed to be much earlier(maybe even Phase 1 early).

frinkhutz · 1 points · Posted at 01:26:53 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

No I agree about daredevil. I just mean that the whole season was connected very loosely. It'll get wedged in somewhere, I'm sure

DustAndSound · 1 points · Posted at 21:21:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just saw it and I liked it a lot. Very fun movie.

nancy_ballosky · 1 points · Posted at 21:55:58 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Definitely loved the heist crew the best. I was so hyped to know that the rubber band man is in the Marvel universe now.

scienceandstuff_ · 1 points · Posted at 22:15:15 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

So after the movie we were kinda confused with the physics in Ant-Man (I know that it's comic book world, but still). So we know the Pym particle basically transports mass to another dimension by decreasing space between atoms. Does this mean Ant-Man has the same density? When he fell unto the car when he first transformed, there was a noticeable dent in the car. So, I guess, how much does he weigh?

mathemon · 4 points · Posted at 08:18:46 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't think it transports mass anywhere. It just shrank the space between particles.

However, that would mean that even small, he'd way 200 lbs. It was actually inconsistent.

scienceandstuff_ · 2 points · Posted at 07:55:32 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I guess the MCU wiki is what confused me about mass being transported or the space between atoms being reduced: "Pym Particles are subatomic particles of an extra dimensional nature that are capable of shunting or adding mass and reducing or increasing scale of any form of matter, distorting physical forces around such objects or organisms that they are applied to. Human users of technologies that harness the particles are able to shrink themselves to the size of an insect, while still possessing the physical resilience, as well as effort and force exertion capabilities of an average-sized human, which can be amplified in their reduced scale."

neoblackdragon · 2 points · Posted at 01:04:40 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah sorta....

Still pretty damn cool though right?

scienceandstuff_ · 1 points · Posted at 07:43:58 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ah, okay! It was really cool though!

BigTaker · 2 points · Posted at 01:05:21 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

There's no mass being removed, it shrinks the space between atoms.

brbafkdnd · 2 points · Posted at 07:55:23 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

and here we have a 200 pound man riding an ant like it's no problem

BigTaker · 1 points · Posted at 07:58:01 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, you see mumble mumble science mumble particle mumble mumble science mumble momentum, and mumble.

darkd3f3nd3r · 1 points · Posted at 22:28:47 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why didn't Scott keep growing when he put the disc in his regulator?

neoblackdragon · 2 points · Posted at 01:03:29 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I assume the regulator just functioned properly. Like it lost it's power in that verse but the disc didn't. So it enlarged him until his max size. Then again it also put Yellowjacket back to his proper size. Maybe the regulators always function.

SandmanAlcatraz · 2 points · Posted at 02:24:26 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought for sure we were going to see Giant Man. Especially when Scott was tinkering with the regulator earlier in the movie.

BigTaker · 1 points · Posted at 01:03:31 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I can see them saving Giant Man for Infinity War.

CrepuscularMoondance · 1 points · Posted at 01:44:49 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just a thought, maybe Michael Pena can come back as White Tiger if they ever decide to throw White Tiger out into the MCU. Yeah, he's got claws and stuff, but it'd be funny if they paid homage to his Ant-man super powers by punching someone at some point in his movie. #YEAH!

prophetofgreed · 1 points · Posted at 15:03:43 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Him becoming Grizzly would be a better choice.

xGENERALxMiLLZx · 1 points · Posted at 03:30:52 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Dammit I didn't know there was gonna be more than one scene during/after the credits... Is there a video of it anywhere? I can't find one.

Edit: Found one.

ShinShinGogetsuko · 1 points · Posted at 03:54:43 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Can someone tell me when the bad guy got his powers? I don't know if it was implied, or if I just missed it. Was he using the serum on himself? How'd he get into the suit?

One second they're fighting in the helicopter and the next Peter Russo is in the tiny Yellowjacket suit.

Murder_Boners · 2 points · Posted at 08:53:22 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I assume he climbed in the Yellowjacket suit. It probably has some high tech, Iron Man suit system that enables people to put it on quickly.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 11:30:11 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Scott was also able to put his on in like 4 seconds.

GamingTatertot · 2 points · Posted at 19:59:00 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I called so much bullshit on that scene.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:46:47 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It almost threw me off.

I realized I was watching 'Ant-Man' though.

GamingTatertot · 3 points · Posted at 20:49:22 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm inclined to believe that the ants took like a 2 minute smoke break in between the numbers 6 and 5 or something.

neoblackdragon · 1 points · Posted at 00:56:27 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Scott's is a jump suit. Yellow Jacket seems more Iron Man.

lupuscapabilis · 1 points · Posted at 05:40:44 on July 22, 2015 · (Permalink)

Funny part of Paul Rudd's Howard Stern interview: "It took 3 guys and 20 minutes to put the suit on."

Hollywoodcolt23 · 1 points · Posted at 05:16:12 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

What was the safe companies name that he froze the door of?

Xeta1 · 1 points · Posted at 06:14:48 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Carbondale

borngud · 1 points · Posted at 08:01:51 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

This was as funny as the first Iron man movie.. i never laugh so much on anyother MCU movie

PIDomain · 1 points · Posted at 09:03:52 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone know how I can see the cap and falcon after credits scene? I missed it.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 11:47:13 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Same. Really upset I did

Kamehameha23 · 1 points · Posted at 15:48:03 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

The what...😭

Elzam · 1 points · Posted at 18:12:14 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

While the last few Marvel movies only had "stingers" at the mid-credits, Ant-Man has one mid-credits and then another one after the technical credits.

I was about to walk out but got on my phone to make sure I needed to stay.

Cenoflame · 1 points · Posted at 16:40:13 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Will probably be on YouTube at some point. Or just see it again.

STinG666 · 1 points · Posted at 06:29:50 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just so I spaced out halfway through the movie, what was that device Scott got from the Avengers headquarters?

MrHeavySilence · 5 points · Posted at 07:11:02 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Its basically some kind of signal decoy that they soldered into one of the computers.

It helped them disable some security measures to get Ant Man into the Pym Tech building.

STinG666 · 1 points · Posted at 07:12:22 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ahhhh.... I thought it was that, but the explosion at Pym-Tech and how it just absolutely dissipated made me think it was some sort of tesserect based technology.

[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 15:34:17 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

A convenient plot device.

TylerKent68 · 1 points · Posted at 04:35:22 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Does anyone know what kind of wrist watch Bobby Cannavale is wearing in the movie?

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:40:06 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

My eyes lit up when i seen Avengers headquaters. Then seeing Falcon . Not "The" Falcon as i catch myself saying. His suit look way sick. Go paul rudd!

Quas_E_modo · 1 points · Posted at 14:15:22 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

I enjoyed the heck out of this movie but one thing everyone keeps commenting how they really felt for Antony's death (One going as far as to say more of a connection than Wilson). I felt absolutely nothing towards Antony, once when Scott gave that specific ant a name I knew it was going to die.

Also I felt the movie became extremely rushed right after Scott and the Ant-Man persona was introduced which partially took me out of the movie. I wanted the movie to kind of spend more time on the Falcon feature as well as when he went subatomic. But other than those two nitpick's I overall enjoyed the movie.

PotatoUnite · 1 points · Posted at 21:17:55 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

This was a crapton better than Pixels.

AHMilling · 1 points · Posted at 21:43:26 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Man this movie was amazing!

So sad that in my town only around 15 people showed up. Probably because of the name.

AmalSP · 1 points · Posted at 04:42:04 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

So the movie is a real good one eh? Am in Bangalore for 3 weeks and want to go for this one soon..

abnerayag · 1 points · Posted at 09:16:05 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

just saw it today, great movie. saw on another review it was called Iron Man meets Honey I Shrunk the Kids, but I would add Mission Impossible to that mashup.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 13:00:54 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

Totally outdid my estimiations. The struggle was much more personal; diluting all 'THE WORLD IS GOING TO END!!!' stories Marvel often ends up like. Pena & TIP was very very funny and likeable, as was Michael Douglas at times. The 'back it back it up' scene was especially hilarious, as were Pena's flashback stories where he does the voices for all characters. I was totally not expecting the Sam Wilson cameo and loved it from start to finish.

Paul Rudd excelled in his fairly comedic superhero role, I found it very very funny when he 'ruined the moment' between Pym and Hope and then went to make tea. I wasn't overly fond of the villain, nor was I too fond of general aesthetic design of YellowJacket, but it was fine.

I wonder how much money Judy Greer has made this year playing the same character?

FaysOne · 1 points · Posted at 15:23:45 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

I really liked this movie. I personally did not mind Yellowjacket as a villain...just thought this movie needs to start small and not introduce a game-changing villain in the face of Ant-Man. Other than that, the comedy was all in the right place, the plot was interesting. On a scale of 1 to 5, this is 4.25 for me.

However....Ant-Man spoilers came as quite the surprise to me...and so did the other post-credits scene.

End of my review here. ;-)

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:25:07 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did he seriously not remember anything while subatomic??? WHY???

ALSO WTF IT'S FUCKING ANNA AKANA

GarbledReverie · 1 points · Posted at 05:44:09 on August 1, 2015 · (Permalink)

I loved it.

But maybe someone could explain some things to me.

SPOILERS!

The bad guy seemed to just be extremely evil for little to no reason. He went from someone Pyme trusted to over-the-top evil because... what? Pym didn't share his special shrinking formula with him? Well join the club, he didn't share it with anybody.
Speaking of which, what exactly did Pym Co. do to become so successful? Granted, shrinking things and talking to ants are each extraordinary scientific accomplishments. But apparently Hank Pym chose not to share either of them with anybody. So what did his company actually do? Did he just keep telling the shareholders "Invest in us another quarter and maaaaaybe we'll share that break through shrinking particle I may or may not have invented."? At least Stark built his fortune on weapons. Pym is successful for alleged breakthroughs that never got used?
And how did Pym keep producing his Pym Particles? It apparently took decades of research in a mega facility to produce a weak copy of his original formula. But Pym kept on making plenty of it from either his kitchen or that old vault in his Victorian basement.
And that lesser yellow-version of the shrinking particles apparently is way more dangerous. Because when Hope tells Cross the particles are affecting his mind, there's no evidence that he's been shrinking with them yet. Is vaguely close proximity to the stuff enough to cause evil crazy-pants time? And wasn't her broadcasting that being shrunk causes mental illness a dead giveaway that she knew more than she was supposed to?
But I guess that didn't matter because Evil-Bald-Man knew she was a good-guy all along. Which raises all kinds of questions about why he wouldn't reduce her access to security, or reveal increases to security at all.
The bit at the end where they shrink/implode the whole building was really cool. But it also makes much of their other efforts completely unnecessary. Why bother finding and frying the hard-drives or even trying to find and destroy the prototype when you're just going to collapse the whole complex in on itself anyway. Subatomic hard-drives and prototypes are equally useless whether they are functional or not.
The ultra-protective parents are just okay with their daughter/stepdaughter having a giant ant for a pet?
What exactly is Pym doing to help Scott Lang for all of this? Scott's ex's husband is now all cool with him cause he proved himself. And his "job" is... apparently still working with the gang of thieves he swore off before?
That whole ending sequence was a lot of schene-jumping to go nowhere. Is it Scott's "job" now to... listen do (former?) thieves gossip 5th hand rumors that throw last minute cameos in the mix but don't ultimately tell you anything but an awkwardly presented "Yes!" (so... the climax is Falkon is looking for him?) What a strange place to end the movie.

The film was fun and worked despite all the red-tape and drama. But walking out of there I thought the silliness of the premise was the least of this film's problems.

skonen_blades · 1 points · Posted at 09:34:47 on August 2, 2015 · (Permalink)

DAE think that the subatomic world could be a lead-in to the Micronauts?

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:42:11 on August 3, 2015 · (Permalink)

This movie was fANTastic !

Biscornus · 1 points · Posted at 00:04:39 on August 6, 2015 · (Permalink)

Just saw it tonight. I enjoyed it but to be really honest, i think Marvel is lucky that the Luis character steals the show that much.

I begabmn to have this conversation with my friends but they don't have the same relationship we have with the MCU so here it goes.

To me, Marvel movies that succeed are genre movies that plays with its code to entertain the audience better. Cap 1 was WW2 movie Cap 2, a spy movie Guardians a space opera / star wars movie.. Etc. In each of those, they use the characters to explore themes that you typically see in those genre. Patriotism and sacrifice in WW2, freedom and government in spies, exploration and good vs evil in space opera.

Cap2 was great because the message was really interesting. "what would a guy who fought against the nazi tyranny think about the kind of society we have today where government spy on by their citizens"?

Guardians was awesome because it made fun of every code of the genre. The guy is a scavenger and not an Explorer, he doesn't have a real motive to save the day (he's just "not 100% dick"!) and the bad guy is just a parody of himself who doesn't win because he wants his opponent's "attention". Even / especially the music is an awesome farce. Not a single classical tune where you'll find some John Williams look alike in Gravity, interstellar and, I'm pretty sure, The Martian. Hell, even Avengers 1 is a super hero satyre but we can talk about that later.

Well, for Antmant, they wanted to build a heist movie. There are ocean's eleven reference all over the place (music, character's introduction voiced over by one guy from the team) and the structure is : characters, motivation, target, plan, préparation, execution. Ocean's eleven!

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a fantastic idea but it's really a shame they didn't go all the way. Why the fight with the yellow suit? The guy is already a vilain. Like Andy Garcia is the bad guy from the ocean's movie. He doesn't need to be violent to be bad. He's just the guy the team is going to rob. Why is the training not related to the heist? Why this half hour about the tough father daughter relationship? We don't care about characters we've been introduced like 5 minutes ago. Besides Hope doesn't do much expect looking pissed / disappointed the whole movie. And finally why is the infiltration plan so badly explained? Why everything goes smoothly except the laser thing? It's the sole purpose of the story!

The sad thing is that when the movie doesn't go full retards / usual super hero bullshit, it works so so well. They have the awesome heist team who is really under used. They have Pim's character who is super funny when he makes fun of Scott and they have the heist itself who can have dramatic consequences if it goes wrong. Viewers can be invested in its success.

At a time where DC takes some risk to bruise the image of their characters, it's a shame that Marvel doesn't do much more than their usual average recipe. It's okay to eat it I guess but you won't be able to serve it another time.

TL.DR. Antman is a very average movie because of its lack of ambition, such a waste of a great and unique character.

What do you guys think?

Yellow-5-Son · 1 points · Posted at 07:59:03 on August 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Unfair to ants.

MarvelGam · 1 points · Posted at 23:33:20 on September 3, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think ant man is one of the best marvel movies I've seen in a while not only does it have great special effects but it's really funny, all the charecters are memorable and likable, and the action is awesome, I very highly recommend this movie and if you haven't see this movie go see it or buy it on blue-ray

MarvelGam · 1 points · Posted at 23:55:49 on September 3, 2015 · (Permalink)

rottentomatoes lies

The_Best_01 · 1 points · Posted at 05:39:24 on October 15, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was amazing!

Reggga · 1 points · Posted at 22:30:33 on December 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Please read Halved by Daniel Crowbridge, available on Amazon.com. Screenplay co-writtn and directed by Adam McKay?

DreddDurst · -1 points · Posted at 02:34:07 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

1) Cassie set the bar for all child actors from now on. Easily the cutest kid I've seen in a movie.

2)THEY HAVE A GUY THAT SWINGS!!!!!

3) That was a good movie. Funny, well written, good plot, moves the universe forward and had great action.

homeboi808 · 2 points · Posted at 02:36:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

She was good, but she didn't set a bar, at least not in my opinion. The fact that she was 6 during the filming is a big plus for her though.

jordanlund · 0 points · Posted at 05:15:46 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I enjoyed it but the ending ruined it for me.

They imploded the building, which was really cool, but it meant that everything else they did was pointless. They didn't need to break in, fry a bunch of servers or try to steal the Yellowjacket suit... all they had to do was implode the building. Done!

009reloaded · 1 points · Posted at 22:21:22 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

... And kill everyone in it?

jordanlund · 4 points · Posted at 23:10:50 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Have the crazy ants set off the fire suppression systems. That would get everyone out.

PabloNueve · 1 points · Posted at 03:11:25 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

They needed to ensure that the servers were fried though. And the Yellow Jacket suit was in a protected case inside a closed vault. They needed to ensure the suit and the research was destroyed.

jordanlund · 3 points · Posted at 03:42:28 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Imploding the building would have destroyed the servers and the suit.

PabloNueve · 1 points · Posted at 04:05:50 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not necessarily. The electronics of the servers would actually have to be fried. Otherwise, damaged computers can still be recovered.

Also, there's no guarantee that the imploding building would have destroyed the room, let alone the protective case, let alone the suit itself.

jordanlund · 3 points · Posted at 04:15:01 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did you actually see the movie? They reduced the entire building to a ball the size of a basketball.

[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 00:31:47 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was just so average in every way. Ugh really I'm so let down by Marvel. Every movie by them except Avengers 1, the first Iron Man and GoTG have just been completely forgettable. They're so formulaic and just seems like a money grab.

huntergreenhoodie · 0 points · Posted at 04:02:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was like if Honey I Shrunk the Kids joined the Marvel universe.
Loved it.

Joe_Tzu · 1 points · Posted at 02:06:38 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Some guy said on here this is in his top 5 favorite marvel films. Buddy, I'm with you.

crocodilejimreborn · 1 points · Posted at 01:44:21 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Would this movie be better with edgar wright as director, sure, but not that better. Maybe funnier/more subtle jokes, maybe better action sequences but i think peyton reed did a pretty good job.

Whiplash0409 · 1 points · Posted at 02:31:02 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

You could really see at some points Edgar Wright leaking into the movie and it made me kind of sad. I really, really liked it but I can't help but imagine what could've been. The whole Baskin & Robins thing was SO Edgar Wright and it was hilarious! Anyway at least we still got a great movie with all that happened it could've turned out much worse.

Edit: Spelling mistake

shaneo632 · 4 points · Posted at 20:48:07 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought the B-R product placement was horrible.

Ars-Nocendi · 2 points · Posted at 17:18:51 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

You don't want to say that. Baskin Robbins always finds out.

thefablemuncher · 1 points · Posted at 15:54:21 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fun movie. Charming, with lots of great humour. I'm excited to see Ant-Man team up with the Avengers.

Except for the last 20 minutes the movie was pretty forgettable. At least it ended on a high note. I loved it every time they cut to the normal-sized perspective of the little girl and how insignificant both Ant-Man and Yellowjacket looked in their epic battle.

Too bad Yellowjacket only popped up in the ending. I was hoping the suit would corrupt him a la Doc Ock. That certainly would've been a lot better than the villain popping up at the end because "oh right we need a fight scene to end the movie." Sucks that we never got to see what Edgar Wright wanted to do, because there was definitely a better movie in here somewhere. The final product was fun and all, but this could've been amazing and mindblowing. Instead it's a perfectly serviceable crowd-pleaser that I have no desire to watch ever again.

xGhostCat · 1 points · Posted at 22:29:06 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Cross was already mentally fucked from over exposure to the particles, finally putting on the suit made him lose it even more!

HollandGW215 · 1 points · Posted at 00:49:36 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Too bad about that BO numbers

reebee7 · 1 points · Posted at 04:31:00 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I bet it will have legs, though.

Gverreiro · 1 points · Posted at 02:17:32 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Great movie overall. Cheesy one liners as usual , some cringe worthy dialogue but solid performances by everyone, the movie has a different vibe from the other one kinda like Guardians but the comedy here has a little too much for me taste there's only one serious moment in the movie really. I was expecting a bad villain based on the critics but it was very solid perfomance better than the forgetable ones like in Thor 2 or the Iron-Man.

That Falcon fight was pretty cool !

The_Original_Gronkie · 1 points · Posted at 03:11:34 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Paul Rudd said that when he told his son he was going to be Ant-Man, his son replied "I can't wait to see how stupid that's going to be."

chardeemac · 1 points · Posted at 14:47:41 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Fantastic stuff, really exciting to see the pym particles and the scope of cool things they can do with it on screen as well.

There was two bum notes that stood out to me, the mentioning of calling the avengers only to explain why not to.,,when they didn't need to mention them in the first place , and falcons cameo

The cameo was pretty darn bad. When they first meet and talk on the roof, it was like a part from an advert was inserted into the movie. The acting and angles everything just felt so different and stiff compared to the main film and it felt like an advert, like it was going to turn into a subway tie in advert or something.

And the second credits scene was just weird, that's a big moment and they just did it in a little ten second scene like that

The backup crew were great. Loved them. Main cast were on point as well, really good stuff.

shaneo632 · 1 points · Posted at 15:29:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well, it's better than Thor 2...

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:58:51 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

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SlowMotionSprint · 1 points · Posted at 03:06:42 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but shrinking to a subatomic scale, in this instance, the laws of physics break down and would be akin to falling into a black hole for the observer. So, if Janet Van Dyne were to be found, she theoretically hasn't aged a day in 26 years and would appear just the same as when she went in.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:27:53 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

That was my impression too. They made a big deal about the whole "space and time cease to exist" thing. So I imagine she's stuck in every way possible.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 08:18:00 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought he we were gonna get to see a glimpse of her in the subatomic sequence, but hank had a spark in his eye when he said it was possible to return. i think she'll pop up later.

mrbill317 · 1 points · Posted at 19:08:07 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Someone in another group said they could have sworn that she was slightly visible when Rudd went subatomic.

009reloaded · 1 points · Posted at 22:25:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

You can briefly see what seems to be her silhouette/shadow

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:18:08 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

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wosh · 5 points · Posted at 13:38:54 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I sure it'll show up in agents of shield this season

natedoggcata · 1 points · Posted at 04:21:41 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I absolutely loved this movie, however the only other movies in the MCU I have seen are Thor and Guardians of the Galaxy.

I could tell that there were so many things thrown in here that die hard fans would know about. Me, I knew about none of these things and it was incredibly confusing at times to follow. I had no idea who Falcon was (I assume hes an Avenger), no idea who that guy was in the post credits scene (He looked like Quicksilver to me), and I thought when he said "I know a guy" he was referring to AntMan.

As someone that isnt really a big Marvel fan to begin with, I honestly felt like this movie was punishing me because I havent watched all the other movies in the MCU.

prophetofgreed · 2 points · Posted at 07:22:02 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

That sucks but I guess that's the bad with an interconnected universe to these films. I'm glad you liked the movie regardless even if there was some confusion :)

FYI, that was Winter Soldier at the end there being confronted by Cap and Falcon. This was a scene hyping up Cap's next movie, Civil War, probably one of Marvel's most famous events in the comics.

PabloNueve · 0 points · Posted at 03:14:21 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Each Marvel Studio movie is a semi-contained episode that connects to movie universe overall. So, it's not required to watch everything, but it makes the experience better if you do watch all of the movies.

GamingTatertot · -2 points · Posted at 04:29:03 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Watch Iron Man, Captain America 1 and 2, and The Avengers. Then you're good (although I suppose Age of Ultron might be good too but it's a mediocre movie then again so is Cap 1)

prophetofgreed · 1 points · Posted at 05:11:19 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

So I looked up the budget for this movie expecting 170+ million and holy hell, it only cost 130 million to produce.

To do that with a CGI reliant character like Ant-Man. Bravo Marvel on the budgeting.

chan1217 · 1 points · Posted at 03:02:37 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Will the Wasp be in Civil War or saved for GoTG2?

neoblackdragon · 2 points · Posted at 00:57:08 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why would she have anything to do with GOTG2? They are in another part of the Galaxy.

RighteousRaccoon · 1 points · Posted at 06:59:21 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

So I only stayed for the first scene after credits, can anyone find a link for the second or fill me in on what happened. Can't seem to find a video myself but maybe the reddit detective agency can.

Murder_Boners · 4 points · Posted at 08:49:50 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was a clip from Civil War with Steve and Sam having had apparently captured Winter Soldier. Sam says they should call Tony and Steve adamantly says no. But they apparently have to find some tech genius. Sam nods and says, "I know a guy." then it immediately cuts to a black screen that reads "Ant-Man will return."

KingDick12 · 1 points · Posted at 01:04:59 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yellowjacket had the best death ever.

Zekthros · 1 points · Posted at 03:35:57 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I missed a line during the after credit scene. When they're talking about calling Tony, Falcon says "Who knows if the ____ would let him help." What was he talking about?

BobbyDavros · 4 points · Posted at 03:45:56 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think he said 'accord', as in the thing that's going to be the centre of Civil War. I think it's like a government initiative that decides when the Avengers can and can't be involved in things.

uggri · 1 points · Posted at 07:06:56 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anna Akana cameo :D

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:30:06 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wait , i didnt see haley atwell or howard stark..

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 10:51:22 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

They were literally the first two people on screen, apart from Hank Pym and the guy whose face he smashed.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:35:24 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Im literallygonna go see it again just because i missed it. I didnt kniw that it started and missed the begining.

LittleInfidel · 1 points · Posted at 15:39:23 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

Bullets. To kill bugs.

I loved the movie, but that was Heels-In-Jurassic-Park annoying.

[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:02:03 on August 1, 2015 · (Permalink)

The way the reporter in the post post credits phrased, "we have a guy who jumps, we have a guy who swings, and a guy who climbs walls", makes it seem like she's referencing multiple characters, not just Spider-Man. If this is true could she also be referencing Iron Fist as the one who "swings"? As in swinging like punches?

doublestandardss · 1 points · Posted at 09:05:04 on October 4, 2015 · (Permalink)

This movie highlights how retarded Child Support laws are. No wonder men go postal over them. Women have it made in the USA.

Dontfrown · -4 points · Posted at 01:35:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ok, lets get it out of the way. Really liked it, obviously it has its flaws, the mexican stereotype and such, weaky villian but I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Minifig81 · -2 points · Posted at 01:43:08 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

What... the .. fuck?

homeboi808 · 4 points · Posted at 01:49:19 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

You don't get the reference? Any time Rudd is promoting a movie, he shows this clip instead of the real one every time he's on Conan.

CatsInCasts · -3 points · Posted at 09:46:27 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Sorry fanboys. This movie was whatever. Time to admit that the Marvel formula has gotten stale.

homeboi808 · 0 points · Posted at 12:33:36 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah sure, this was one of their best films yet, top 5 for certain.

00Anarchy00 · -3 points · Posted at 22:20:36 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Wow, this movie was cheesy as fuck, and felt like a typical Hollywood bullshit story whipped together.

Seriously the evil villain is seen killing lambs in this movie, cause marvel spells Subtle with ALL CAPS!

I mean there was even a montage for a solid 5 minutes and suddenly our not a-typical hero breaks into the avengers HQ, WHILE MIND YOU, Pym can see everything Paul's character can through the suit, and yet by some magic, he misses that whole 5-30 minutes where he steals the blue reactor thingy....

They're so many holes in this movie it literally hurt watching it.

Fgge · 2 points · Posted at 23:38:50 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

There may be holes but the only one you've mentioned is explained pretty clearly, Falcon has the facility locked down and Pym says he can't see through the security.

Darkimus-prime · 1 points · Posted at 20:35:01 on July 24, 2015 · (Permalink)

Haters gonna hate, hate, hate,hate

JupitersClock · -1 points · Posted at 21:56:39 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Cheesy and superhero movie go hand in hand. It was a fun movie I wasn't expecting anything groundbreaking just 2 hours of turning my brain off.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 14:22:07 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

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spate42 · 10 points · Posted at 14:37:15 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was an introduction for The Wasp. She'll play a role in future avengers movies.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 00:38:46 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't get how he came back from sub-atomic world. Was that just some Deus Ex Machina shit? I don't remember seeing any explanation for it?

neoblackdragon · 4 points · Posted at 00:49:03 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

So you know those discs that can shrink and enlarge a target? He used one of them to enlarge himself from the microverse.

[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 00:53:21 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It can't be that simple right? They made such a big deal about the subatomic world. If it's that easy going subatomic is pretty much a feature of the suit.

[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 03:07:22 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

The problem is that one would have to fuck up their suit in order to shrink that small, rendering themselves unable to come back. Scott had one of those new weapons Hank Pym had developed, though, and used it to make himself larger again.

BigTaker · 1 points · Posted at 01:44:50 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Still a whole bunch of unknowns.

sydnboy · 1 points · Posted at 12:49:30 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was a big deal at that time because when you go subatomic, you can't go back. But lucky Scott had the enlarge disk to go back to original size. However it was weird when Hank explained he couldn't figure it out how to do it, yet he made the same device to enlarge it. My only guess was Hank was too afraid to tweak the regulator. As he told Scott. In the future, he can use that enlarge disk to make him into a giant.

Cheehu · 6 points · Posted at 00:49:17 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

He used one of the disc things that enlarged him.

BigTaker · 3 points · Posted at 00:47:52 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did he not place one of those enlarging discs in his regulator and activate it?

reebee7 · 2 points · Posted at 04:33:26 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was hoping he would send Yellow Jacket there. Like they'd be small, fighting, Scott breaks YJ's regulator, and slams the shrinker into his mouth.

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 22:07:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I was pleasantly surprised by it, still wish Edgar Wright directed it though.

mccalli · 0 points · Posted at 17:03:21 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Went to see it with three kids - I'm 43, they're a 13 year-old daughter and then 11 and 9-year old sons.

Loved it. Absolutely loved it. No criticism at all - I loved it, and the kids were either on the edge of their seat or in total hysterics. The Thomas scenes had them shaking uncontrollably.

Perfectly pitched as a munch-your-popcorn-and-have-a-good-time film, which is exactly what we did. I'm not versed in the Marvel Universe so can't comment on references etc., but as a summer diversion it was great.

Danton87 · 0 points · Posted at 17:36:16 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

ANT-MAN IS BAD FUCKING ASSSSS!!!!

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 22:15:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

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BigTaker · 1 points · Posted at 01:07:03 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Fury isn't in it.

lhman97 · 1 points · Posted at 01:31:56 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Is that confirmed? Or just not in credits?

BigTaker · 1 points · Posted at 01:37:49 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I don't recall seeing him and he isn't on the film's IMDB page.

lhman97 · 1 points · Posted at 02:01:01 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah i wasnt sure if i saw him or not but i thought it was. Ill be seeing it again soon so i can check again

BigTaker · 1 points · Posted at 02:01:44 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Definitely wasn't him, friend.

lhman97 · 2 points · Posted at 02:35:20 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

I guess not :)

owiseone23 · 0 points · Posted at 23:20:04 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think it was really fun, it deserved better reviews. It was funny and just plain fun. It had a sense of freshness that a lot of superhero movies lacked. Rather than just being a bunch of super strong flying people punching each other, it was creative and used the shrinking very well.

moldy912 · 0 points · Posted at 05:09:50 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Hope was hoping for the ant D the whole movie.

WolfVamp826 · 0 points · Posted at 08:12:25 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was okay. Thought it would be better. But it was okay.

MscImba · -4 points · Posted at 19:50:11 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Unimpressive and messy action sequences, cringy and not funny. Was not worth the time and money for me.

dismal626 · -1 points · Posted at 05:40:49 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone have a name for the cute asian girl in Michael Pena's last story-telling spiel? I need it... for science.

Ze12thDoctor · 3 points · Posted at 12:45:03 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anna Akana. She has a relatively big following on YouTube.

Edit: big not bug

AtillaTheHung · -1 points · Posted at 15:39:52 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Baskin Robbins always finds out.

cpcwrites · -1 points · Posted at 20:18:06 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I wrote a mostly spoiler-free review for a site called The Allspark.

TL;DR - I really, really liked it.

mrtangelo · -1 points · Posted at 05:25:00 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

man hope was an insufferable little shit. that being said it was a fun movie. nothing spectacular

Megaman1981 · -1 points · Posted at 00:49:07 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

I'm just wondering how long until they announce a Honey I shrunk the Kids remake. With how this movie showed the world as a tiny person, I could easily see them doing that. They're both Disney movies, so it'll probably happen.

spwf · 0 points · Posted at 05:22:02 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Corey Stoll and Paul Rudd have the same fucking face.

JavaNewie · 0 points · Posted at 00:20:25 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

Ok, the scene where the journalist is talking to Falcon, she says something like...

"We got ... and ... and a guy who crawls up walls. You have to be more specific."

What were the first two? I only caught the spider-man reference.

Also, Scott seemed so proud of himself that he defeated an Avenger. But am I the only one thinking Falcon is such a weak Avenger? He's basically a human who can fly. BFD. Although against Thor, Capt, and Hulk he'd probably have just been able to run away and hide. Iron Man, however, would probably re-calibrate a missile to be heat-sensitive and blown him to kingdom come.

chris2webby · 1 points · Posted at 00:20:58 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

guys who swing, guys who jump, guys who crawl up walls

JavaNewie · 0 points · Posted at 02:03:24 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Ok, same guy. Being it's hearsay of hearsay, I get that it would come off as three different people.

neoblackdragon · 1 points · Posted at 22:25:54 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well Falcon is an Avenger nonetheless. He was taking what he could get in terms of props. Point is he had an unanticipated engagement and won.

haunthorror · 0 points · Posted at 01:53:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

This was a great marvel movie. They hit another homerun in my eyes. Right there with GOTG as the funniest Marvel film as well. Think this will be highly rewatchable.

DC_Gooner · 0 points · Posted at 04:36:42 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Such a brilliant flick. Geeked out over the entire film, especially the Wasp suit at the end, and the awesome action sequences. Marvel has done it again.

SonnyWane · 0 points · Posted at 04:53:34 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why did he care that Antony died but their were a bunch of Ants left and right that were dying.

basswalker93 · 3 points · Posted at 06:02:14 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Antony was the only one he named, I think.

Dyzon10 · 2 points · Posted at 07:43:20 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

As soon as he named him, I was like "awwww...noooo!"

mrz5000 · 0 points · Posted at 05:40:59 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Movie Menu Reviews Ant-Man

farzadviper · 0 points · Posted at 06:57:28 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was so fucking funny and entertaining. Was it a great movie? No it was good. I'm not a fan of Marvel's cheesy jokes and too much comedy in their movies, but the trailers for this movie at least showed us that its going to be a very funny movie. Not like AOU's trailers. I knew what I was getting into and I really liked it.

9me123 · 0 points · Posted at 23:39:59 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Does Cassy tell everyone that she has two daddies?

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 00:30:24 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I just saw Antman...Michael Pena stole all the scenes...and yellow jacket is a good villain.. hes in a different universe...the small one. The MCU is growing and now we are in space. Ant man is in another direction but not insulting in our face. Lets adapt. Civil War will be epic... alll this rant as a Marvel Connoisseur.

robinkak · 0 points · Posted at 10:09:10 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

pena was the only thing funny about the movie.

Sunshine145 · 0 points · Posted at 05:54:25 on July 26, 2015 · (Permalink)

Why does Michael Pena always play the stereotypical mexican?

[deleted] · -8 points · Posted at 05:08:18 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

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FFTorres · 2 points · Posted at 08:00:46 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Well I mean, they're superheros. Of course they pander to children. They want kids to get a favorite superhero and to buy merchandise associated with that hero. You could say that the movies should be more adult since a big part of the audience is comprised of adults like you and I, but the whole reason we enjoy the movies is because at some point, that pandering hooked us and we now love those characters.

Foxhack · -1 points · Posted at 05:13:13 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Guess you're a Man of Steel fan? :p

greetingsfromcanada · -2 points · Posted at 05:42:20 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

No, I don't have a side in the Marvel vs DC debate.

Foxhack · 1 points · Posted at 12:35:00 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's not my fault DC comics are so goddamn grimdarkedgygritty these days. At least Marvel tries to keep things fun. Sometimes.

cries at all his favorite funny DC Comics storylines and characters being whisked out of existing by the idiots in charge

IAmTheWaller67 · -2 points · Posted at 18:18:25 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Between Tomorrowland and this movie, Disney seriously needs to cool it with reusing all of the Star Wars sound effects. It's just distracting.

[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 17:17:28 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

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suss2it · 1 points · Posted at 04:45:28 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

Every single hero that line referenced was about Spider-Man. It went something like "we have one that jumps, one that climbs up walls and one that swings".

Rogan_McFlubbin · -3 points · Posted at 07:00:33 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did anybody else laugh at the Edgar Wright type scenes but not really like the movie overall?

chardeemac · 2 points · Posted at 07:40:46 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

Not sure, for the uninitiated which particular scenes were the most Edgar -like?

Rogan_McFlubbin · 1 points · Posted at 15:33:06 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

The storytelling chains and Thomas the Tank Engine are what come to mind.

Man_Without_Fear · 1 points · Posted at 04:40:06 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think the Luis montages were from Peyton Reed not Wright.

Lostredshoe · -6 points · Posted at 11:38:56 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It was the MCU formula, the humor wasn't humorous, the characters were two dimensional. The dialogue was atrocious. The Pena voice overs were ok. The love interest was just a wtf, why Pym selected the Rudd character to be Ant Man was such a wtf.

Over all this was a paint by numbers MCU garbage.

Darkimus-prime · -4 points · Posted at 22:36:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Avengers: Age of Ultron
Ant-Man
Iron Man
Guardians of the Galaxy
Avengers Assemble
Captain America: The winter soldier
Iron man 2
Captain America: the first avenger
Thor
Iron man 3
Thor: the dark world

[deleted] · -10 points · Posted at 02:46:55 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)*

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kingdw · 1 points · Posted at 03:23:28 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

You hateful ungrateful ho

[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 03:25:33 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

What's the best thing you've ever seen?

thatmovieperson · -1 points · Posted at 15:53:43 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

anyone hear the Spider-Man reference?

Jam-Master-Jay · 2 points · Posted at 17:35:16 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

Yeah. Right at the end with Luis recounting what Falcon had said.

Luy22 · -1 points · Posted at 19:27:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I've heard spiderman was somewhere?

[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 21:22:48 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

"Hitter, Jumper, Wall-Climber"

I may be misquoting just a little bit, but these seem to be clues to some mysterious heroes that may be introduced soon. Wall-Climber is undoubtedly Spider-Man. Speculation on the Hitter and Jumper?

chris2webby · 1 points · Posted at 00:24:51 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

I thought she said "swinger, jumper, wall climber", all referencing Spider-Man

butterfrog · -1 points · Posted at 05:44:08 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

Did anyone catch the Tron reference from Kurt saying you are in like flynn during the heist scene?

RexRaider · 6 points · Posted at 08:20:16 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

It's not a Tron reference. It's a Errol Flynn reference.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_like_Flynn

dcnassau · -1 points · Posted at 23:57:15 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

Anyone catch the Bond reference? Some of them (Roger Moore era comes to mind) would end with "James Bond will return".

Vlinux · 5 points · Posted at 03:12:37 on July 23, 2015 · (Permalink)

Some of the other Marvel movies have done that. I think Captain America: The First Avenger had something at the end saying "Captain America will return in The Avengers".

dcnassau · -1 points · Posted at 22:07:01 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

True. Still a Bond reference though.

MulderD · -6 points · Posted at 01:56:30 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

SPOILER - He gets little.

yesindeedio79 · -4 points · Posted at 14:18:10 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

Possibly the worst MCU movie to date, which doesn't make it a 'bad film', just that I can't remember enjoying a Marvel movie less. There is a good chance that this is because I didn't find it very funny, and comedy is incredibly subjective so I can't really argue with anyone else over why it was or wasn't a funny movie, but when the movie is almost being billed as a Paul Rudd comedy vehicle one would hope that it would be funnier that any Iron Man, Thor, or if you're being particularly optimistic, Guardians of the Galaxy. Sadly Ant Man raised fewer laughs than any of these other movies.

Another reason for my dissatisfaction with this film is that I've grown weary of super hero origin stories. I don't want to go through a long sequence of the film where our hero is 'comically' baffled/scared by his new-found abilities and gets into all sorts of scrapes as he learns how to wield them. For this reason, I thought Ant Man felt about ten years out of date: I was reminded more of Fantastic Four or Green Lantern than any recent, better, Marvel offering.

Finally Yellowjacket is possibly Marvel's least imaginative villain. Essentially lifting the modus operandi of Iron Man's Obadiah Stane (until now, a decent contender for most boring villain) and simply taking the power of our hero, but swapping the much more interesting ant-controlling schtick for lasers made for a truly disappointing final battle with little-to-no spectacle (save for the giant Thomas the Tank Engine, which raised a much-needed laugh, I will admit). On top of this, the villain never feels like a serious threat, which is perhaps less the fault of Ant Man and more of the MCU as a whole.

Some highlights were the unexpected appearance of Falcon, and the resulting action sequence. Also this may be the only MCU film that delivers two post credits sequences which offer decent fan-service and hints at what the future of the MCU has in store.

Still the film was underwhelming. When it's shown on Saturday evenings on satellite TV in 5-6 years time I'll give it another watch, and that's probably the fate this forgettable film deserves.

Fateninja · -2 points · Posted at 13:35:03 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I can't tell if they did this on purpose but did anyone else notice the potential Zoolander easter egg? When Cross paused at the scaled down model of the Pym building. All I could think about is, "what is this a building for ants?"

shaneo632 · 3 points · Posted at 14:04:24 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I think that's a huge reach

BritishHobo · 1 points · Posted at 16:48:05 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I had exactly the same thought, while Lang was running through it. Genuinely expected a reference.

UpsetViking · -2 points · Posted at 12:08:22 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

"That's a messed-up-looking dog!"

Sorry Chris Pratt but Michael Peña is way more hilarious than you.

dtsyk · 10 points · Posted at 18:11:34 on July 25, 2015 · (Permalink)

But Michael Pena didn't deliver that line.

[deleted] · -4 points · Posted at 20:15:46 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

So I don't get it. In the end Ant-Man died, right? I mean nobody could survive that explosion.

chris2webby · 6 points · Posted at 21:21:42 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

what explosion?

[deleted] · -3 points · Posted at 23:01:27 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

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[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 04:35:18 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

What the fuck are you talking about

dacalpha · 2 points · Posted at 08:23:04 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

That's...cool, but a bit unrelated to Ant-Man the movie specifically.

[deleted] · -11 points · Posted at 21:13:47 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

We walked out. It was awful. Not only was it really paint-by-the-numbers, but it had shitty lazy racial stereotypes as the only two people of color in the movie

Chelsea93 · 8 points · Posted at 21:33:32 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

You must be fun to see movies with...

ineededanameagain · 5 points · Posted at 21:32:27 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

What are you talking about?? Penas and T.I's character weren't racial stereotypes in the slightest. I'm Mexican and at no point in the movie did I say say wow that's such a stereotype.

[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 22:40:53 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

They were certainly stereotypes. But they weren't offensive stereotypes in the least. I mean, to be black and Latino ex cons, they were really inoffensive stereotypes. Don't see why he's bitching.

aces08 · -2 points · Posted at 23:03:35 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

They were definitely stereotypes. Look up Latino bafffoon. It was a funny part of the movie, and it fit well with the overall movie. But it was definitely a stereotype.

[deleted] · -5 points · Posted at 09:50:38 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)*

I have such a far better idea about "Antman" I wrote down several years ago. There is a man who are an engineer, he constructs small robots or "robot ants" as he calls them. Real ants work together to find food or to build. They are laying chemical traces behind to give signals of where the source of food is and the way back to the stack. The "robot ants" he constructs can connect to each other and communicate between themselves due to idea of the "chemical trace". Real ants can build bridge to cross water, or a barge to go down a river, that by physical connect to each other. That is also what these robot ants can do, and their puppet master is the engineer, the Ant-Man.

009reloaded · 3 points · Posted at 22:19:14 on July 18, 2015 · (Permalink)

You know that Ant-Man is a comic book character, right? They're not gonna do something different then comics in the MCU.

[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 12:24:29 on July 19, 2015 · (Permalink)

I know, I just think it sucks ;-)

Jehstix · -6 points · Posted at 22:44:46 on July 20, 2015 · (Permalink)

This movie was genuinely bad. I'm over the marvel comedy route, not everything needs to be a joke. The fight scene was meh as a whole, it was left until the last minute, I didn't feel like anyone was in danger and then he just randomly decides to go subatomic for no reason at all.

That being said I'm still excited for future iterations, Evangeline is an amazing actress.

raofblow290 · -2 points · Posted at 21:54:37 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

fuck you and fuck your movie taste, seriously I feel bad for you if you genuinely think that.

Jehstix · 6 points · Posted at 22:45:00 on July 21, 2015 · (Permalink)

No one is in danger better go kill myself.

anewaccountagain · -10 points · Posted at 16:12:45 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

I have only one complaint:

Why couldn't the "pussy" joke hit the cutting room floor? I mean, it wasn't funny enough in my opinion to be left in. This is especially true when Marvel knows (even though it's PG-13) that tons of kids are going to be with their parents at the film.

Mewling Quim and "Jackson Pollock painting" will easily go over their heads. Someone being called a pussy might not.

I dunno, I was just uncomfortable with it when my 8 year old watched it with me. (I know, typically American: watching a guy be reduced to goo isn't a problem, but being called a pussy is.)

chris2webby · -1 points · Posted at 17:50:39 on July 17, 2015 · (Permalink)

yep, the "pussy" line and Luis saying "first pair of boobs I touched" got NO reaction in my theatre. Probably everyone was shocked they said it.

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