Hoppers change texture when locked via redstone

LeoPlats · 12 points · Posted at 03:30:22 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

Omg that would be amazing.

Verizer · 12 points · Posted at 05:17:13 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

I have nothing to say except "Yes."

IceMetalPunk · 11 points · Posted at 05:24:52 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)*

I agree with this suggestion, though I don't particularly like that specific texture example; bedrock is too close to the same color as hoppers, making it hard to see the difference at a quick glance. Maybe a red band, instead? I'll play around with resource packs and see what I can come up with.

But, yeah, upvoted for the idea, as it's sometimes hard to notice when a hopper is locked.

EDIT Here's a quick mock-up of an idea for the texture: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11662651/Graphics/Minecraft/DisabledHopperTexture.png

Related side note: while making that texture, I was very sad to find that you can't reference the "enabled" block state property of hoppers in the model files. It's a known and reported bug, which the devs say they've postponed working on for awhile. Sad :(

papertowel_com · 7 points · Posted at 08:07:26 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

I like the bedrock more because it's similar to when you lock a repeater.

IceMetalPunk · 7 points · Posted at 08:43:23 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

I understand why bedrock was chosen, but this is a functional change. Why change the texture of a hopper when it's locked? To make it easy to see which hoppers are locked. The bedrock is a very similar color and texture to hoppers, so in a chain of these, it wouldn't be easy to see which are bedrock and which aren't at a quick glance.

ziggurism · 2 points · Posted at 16:49:07 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

Your obsidian hopper also looks fairly hard to distinguish though

Edit: nm when I jacked the brightness on my monitor, I see that it's not obsidian, it's just hopper with red band. Still I think needs to be more distinct.

IceMetalPunk · 1 points · Posted at 16:53:44 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

I was about to say, "what obsidian hopper?" XD

Milo359 · 5 points · Posted at 12:37:25 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

Your texture is actually even harder to see than OP's, which is actually pretty easy to see.

IceMetalPunk · 3 points · Posted at 16:40:02 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

Red-on-gray is harder to see than gray-on-gray? O_O

Nilonaut · 3 points · Posted at 17:13:57 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

Yes, the bedrock is light on dark, whilst your texture is dark on dark. If you'd use a lighter red it might work. I find it hard to distinguish the dark red from dark grey, especially in less bright spaces.

IceMetalPunk · 2 points · Posted at 17:30:56 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

Perhaps the band could be lightened. As I said, this was just a quick mock-up for the concept, not a suggestion for the final texture itself.

Milo359 · 1 points · Posted at 19:45:09 on January 28, 2017 · (Permalink)

What he said.

Koala_eiO · 3 points · Posted at 10:57:28 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

Your texture looks great.

IceMetalPunk · 2 points · Posted at 16:42:41 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

Thanks. It was just a quick mock-up example, not at all a suggestion for what should actually be implemented; just trying to show a design that would be immediately visually different from a regular hopper.

Snakivolff · 5 points · Posted at 07:18:48 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

/u/jeb_ minor polish?

JochCool · 2 points · Posted at 06:55:00 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

Yeah. Just to stop us from staring at the debug screen all the time.

(In the link, almost at the bottom of the post)

Edit: oh wait a second, do hoppers even show that they're locked? I'm not sure.

PaintTheFuture · 2 points · Posted at 14:40:22 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

Yes please!

zombiej12 · 1 points · Posted at 15:38:21 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

Maybe the inside would light up a subtle red, like the observer output response?

Nilonaut · 2 points · Posted at 17:16:40 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

Not to subtle though. You'd still want it to be easily distinguishable.

Nyodex · 1 points · Posted at 16:42:21 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

Upvoted

five_hammers_hamming · 1 points · Posted at 17:15:24 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

Right now, the vanilla texture for hoppers has some vertical lines on it. A good, subtle, but noticeable way to mark powered hoppers and indicate that stuff won't go through would be to make the powered texture have corrsponding subtle horizontal lines instead.

Sort of like putting a jungle log in place of an oak log.

Nilonaut · 1 points · Posted at 17:18:43 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

I think it should be visible from the top as well.

Gravitysilence · 1 points · Posted at 05:22:48 on January 28, 2017 · (Permalink)

Amazing idea. +1

ValiantVole · 1 points · Posted at 12:09:39 on January 28, 2017 · (Permalink)

~~Can I have the resource pack please? :P~~

EDIT: Just realised that it's not possible.

haroldyancha · 1 points · Posted at 02:50:12 on January 30, 2017 · (Permalink)

This would be awesome!, because sometimes i can't tell if the hopper is powered or not, this would help a lot of redstoners in the community! 1+ For you :D

bastolbunin · 1 points · Posted at 06:31:29 on February 11, 2017 · (Permalink)

THUMBS UP! perhaps also a way to see which way hopper is facing when you are above it!! (instead of a square hole drain . one that is triangular pointing in the direction of flow if its nto straight down (it would also be nice tu use middle button to rotate its facing direction if you sneak at same time (to reorient it in tight spaces ) and that feature could be useful for all redstone bits!!!

Pandametal · 1 points · Posted at 12:50:43 on February 17, 2017 · (Permalink)

yes please

AlexDAM · 1 points · Posted at 19:59:20 on February 18, 2017 · (Permalink)

this would make things a little bit easyer since you can't use a texture pack to replace locked hoppers with another texture

Leolol_ · 1 points · Posted at 10:35:07 on February 28, 2017 · (Permalink)

That's an awesome idea! Why no developers noticed it yet?

misoloo64 · 1 points · Posted at 06:47:16 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

How good it would be, this would cause extra block updates and hoppers and block updates don't go well together.

🎙️ tryashtar · 6 points · Posted at 07:09:06 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

It wouldn't cause any more block update than the blockstate changing to indicate that it's locked, i.e. exactly what it already does. How the client chooses to render such a hopper doesn't affect that.

JochCool · 1 points · Posted at 06:51:31 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

Does it really have to be changed to a locked_hopper? Mob heads can also display different textures depending on one NBT tag.

IceMetalPunk · 1 points · Posted at 08:45:33 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)*

Hoppers already have a property of their block state called "enabled" which changes when the locked state does. Currently, you can't reference that in model files due to a bug, but the block state does in fact update. So no new updates would need to occur for this to work.

EDIT If you want to prove to yourself that hoppers do create block updates when they lock and unlock, simply face an observer at a hopper and then power/unpower the hopper through a block adjacent to it. The observer will trigger on every change.

THEGamingninja12 · 1 points · Posted at 05:25:43 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

No other works but i agree

super-meme-maker · -2 points · Posted at 03:37:53 on January 27, 2017 · (Permalink)

/u/Vazkii

Hoppers change texture when locked via redstone

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