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His chess moves have chess moves.

Nick Fury is 10 step ahead of us and we don’t even know what game he’s playing yet

But how can he see all the boards?

Learned that from Tony, I guess

But all the games are on his left side

Fury is playing 12-D inverse Korean Starcraft while everyone else is playing 1-D checkers.

He's been playing so many games that he even had skrulls in mind

Thats what you think. Hes really playing 10 different games of checkers.

Bitch, please. He's playing Space Chess.

His secrets have secrets

You thought. Then you find out it's Robert Downey Jr. playing a dude who's playing a dude playing as Nick Fury.

He's got his eye on everything

Fury is playing chess so well the people he's playing with don't realise they're playing each other and not him.

You think we’re playing Chess, motherfucker? Bitch, this is Boggle!

In every universe apparently

Motherfucker, Nick Fury is playing Checkers while everyone else is playing Chess.

With one eye!

Nick Fury vs Lord Loss

I agree, yes

I heard this in his voice

Fury is eleven steps ahead, and we don’t even know what game he is playing

Adrian Chase would be jelly

Nick fury is playing 10 different games of auto chess.

Alright calm down there Demonata

Nick Fury is Bobby Fisher headcanon confirmed

How does he see them all?

10 different 8D chess games is impressive.

Fury playing 11D underwater backgammon

Nick Fury is 10 steps ahead, and Mysterio doesn't even know what game they're playing.

Chess960, Bughouse, etc.

How many chess games did he play? 14,000,605 And how many did he win? All of them

Well I'm playing checkers. I don't know what the fuck they're playing.

His secrets have secrets.

Yo dawg

And it calls him Fury.

I’m on an entirely different level of mindfuckery bitch. I’m Nick Fury mothafuckah.

Say it witcha chess!

Fury plays chess while playing another tiny chess game on the top of every one of his chess pieces. At the same time.

I'm Nick Fury, AND I'm Samuel L. Jackson. At this point, what are you even arguing about?

Bitch, I'm Groot.

MotherF***er

I'm Batman.

This is probably right and fury probably knows he’s a bad guy, he just probably wildly underestimated mysterio.

Does he look like a bitch?

God I wish Geoff Johns and Zack Snyder farmed reddit for ideas when making the DC movies

If yes plz tell us the correct pronunciation of your surname 🙏

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That’s how we will know

Toast

Ding. Didn't put that into Captain Marvel for nothing.

Toast, he said toast, not sandwiches.

(in extremely Oprah voice) YOU A SKRULL YOU A SKRULL u/HALORYDER A SKRULL

Iron Man is alive, it was just a skrull that died

That's why I was scared of them adding skrulls tbh.

Tony was a Skrull

Have you read the comics? Youre probably a Skrull...

Skills are no black and white. For each Ben Mendelsohn there is one evil Ben Mendelsohn

That or a progression into becoming the villian. He has a line about sacrifices being necessary, Spiderman isn't big on sacrifices in general. Segways towards an ending of the movie, post credit scene or follow up movie where mysterio emphasizes more of a villian role (for possibly his "greater good")

oh...

Wtf I love Hydra now?

What if their Hydra was the heroes infiltrating the evil Shield?

*Hail Hydra

Wait America's ass is owned by Hydra?

Forget Aquafina, Hail Hydra! The purest water you can drink, straight from the hot springs of Tønsberg!

Thank you, now I will save enough money to start a water refilling business, and I shall call it Hydra.

If we're doing multiverse you could bring in evil Skrulls from another dimension. Disney has Kl'rt now...

There's always a different faction. Talos skrulls could have reformed the empire in 20 years and a radical faction of skrulls, still angry at the destruction of their race, decide to fuck the rest of the galaxy and create an empire. They dethrone Talos and his government and turn into the warmongers they were meant to be

Some of them are yes, back in the 90s. Not all of them.

A couple of them, yeah. I bet there's some angry Skrulls too

90s tho right? Who the fuck knows what they are up to at this point? It's 30? Years later I think or theteabouts

There are good skrulls and bad skrulls I think the director said. Captain Marvel met the good ones

That is similar to the plot one of the mobile games....

Even better would be Secret Invasion without Skrulls. Just go the Fringe route and have an entire other Earth/Universe infiltrate the mainline MCU Earth because the MCU Earth threatens the existence of the other Earth for some reason.

Edit: fixed a typo

I've been saying this since before CM came out haha. I 100% think that some of the snapped will be Skrulls. Would bet my first born on Thunderbolt Ross being a Skrull.

There is someone in the background when Peter goes back to school that looks like whats-his-name the Skrull from Captain Marvel.

How do you fill about this comment now?

I mean he could make 2 illusions I guess

Man, what if Mysterio isn't even a bad guy in this movie but it's instead Chameleon. Spider-man kills him setting up Mysterio for a future revenge plot.

Chameleon is Kraven's brother.

Maybe this version is actually a good guy? That would be more of a twist than him turning out to be evil, at least for people who know him from the comics.

alright that’s interesting i didn’t about that :’)

No. They swap trailers every once in a while.

Luckily I have watched Endgame just a few hours ago before I watched the trailer, so I was safe.

F

Awkward, I still haven't made it to the end of The Dark Tower VII by skipping or reading...kind of ADHD'd out of that series after a certain death and never managed to start back in.

I like reading/watching things to find out how that spoiled thing happened. It can get me more invested sometimes. That study totally made sense to me.

No worries! I can see the confusion

Oh ok, that's why. Well I can tell you that Tobey Maguire hasn't been Spider-Man for more than a decade, Andrew Garfield's second movie was a major flop that killed The Amazing Spider-Man series and that Tom Holland is the perfect Spider-Man in my opinion though Spider-Man 2 remains the best live action Spider-Man movie for now.

Also if you like Spider-Man I would suggest watching Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse. It's an animated movie but it's really good.

Well, I'm assuming Black Panther will be busy running Wakanda, Captain Marvel be busy saving everywhere except Earth, and Strange will just roll on his own.

They're not going to be in the next Avengers movie, they're going to be in "Illuminati"

I am dying for more Dr. Strange considering how strong he is.

Yup.

And that plus Spider-Man is a Trinity I can freaking get behind!

No one will ever, EVER replace Tony for me--he's been my favorite Avenger since well before the MCU, ever since Demon in a Bottle--but I love those three so much. I really can't wait either.

That feels crazy overpowered, but then again the next round of villains to show up will require a bigger amount of support.

BP for sure, but I’m not sure Marvel and Strange will be a part. Think about how the Ancient One didn’t step in and help in Avengers 1 (we obv saw in Endgame she was right there in NY and not busy at all) and Wong’s comments how while the Avengers protect from physical threats, we protect from mystical ones. Marvel as we’ve seen is constantly busy protecting planets across multiple galaxies that don’t have Avengers. Plus any movie she’s a part of will struggle with presenting a threat where the other heroes matter at all given how powerful she is. She sliced through Thanos mega warship like butter and is impervious to damage. It actually cheapened the all female scene from Endgame because in my head all I could think of was “lol like she actually needs the help when she can blast through those minions”

I really don’t know how they’ll write in Captain Marvel for an Avengers movie that isn’t on the level of Infinity War or Endgame simply cause she’s just way too strong for any of the threats that they face tbh. It’ll be Marvels biggest obstacle this phase to include her with the other heroes while also having a villain that’s worthwhile for all of them together.

Captain Marvel's gonna be a hard one to handle though. At this point Carol Danvers is basically an unstoppable god. They're either going to do a whole bunch of "otherwise engaged" or bring her down a peg or two.

But they might structure the coming iteration of the MCU somewhat differently. Maybe, for example, the neo-Avengers (or whatever the next team is) will be mostly the second-string heroes and Spider-Man, while T'Challa, Strange, and Carol operate solo.

Hopefully not, two of those three are some of the most underwhelming in the MCU

Well he was in Endgame :3

Yeah, but Cap gave Sam his shield. Pretty sure it means Sam will be the new Captain America.

I think Marvel would be insane to not try to find a way to get the X-Men into the MCU ASAP

It also wouldn't be too hard to write in. The snap deals with ungodly powers that we really don't understand and having two snaps on Earth probably caused some weird ripples in space, time and even people's DNA. Having mutations spring up because of the snap would immediately set up the next stage in MCU movies and explain why there weren't mutants before.

Nice.

Really though I’m excited for Sam to take up Caps mantle! It’ll be one hell of a journey seeing him really grow into Caps shoes though, so much to live up to

Captain Falcon damn it.

Not at all, but I reckon he's rolling with the Asguardians of the Galaxy now.

I agree. She has the intellect and the tech to be Ironheart or an equivalent to that.

I've been calling her being ironheart since Black Panther. I want that so fucking bad.

A Shang-Chi movie is planned. It'd be cool to see Luke, Danny and Colleen/Misty in some part of it.

Everybody was kung-fu fighting!

Don Cheadle is amazing.

I agree with the middle parts.

And World Breaker Hulk- He's got one movie left on his contract. Banner swung too far to other side of the pendulum for Endgame, he went from a combat multiplier to basically large Banner- I think in the next one, he's reeling from losing Nat - something pushes him over the edge and he finally embraces the angry side, allowing him to go full WB.

Captain Marvel? Black Panther?

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Hulk can heal he doesn't need a robot arm

it would be pretty embarrassing/devastating for marvel to force out an avengers movies without RDJ, johansson, evans, maybe hemsworth and then the movie pulls a Solo at the box office

Because Star Wars

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was longer than that. The Avengers are already established as a concept, so I would think there won’t be full on Avengers movie until closer to the showdown with the next Big Bad.

The Guardians of the Galaxy movie will be like a mini avengers with Thor there now and them being well established with the main cast

This is my prediction as well.

The big bad coming forward has to be roughly:

Dr. Doom - recurrent threat in multiple films with a face that we can bond to ala Loki.

Galactus - Major level threat that threatens all of the earth's existence.

With a Celestial's movie in the works and (I'm pretty sure) the FF rights now gained by Marvel Studios, they can do a proper FF just when the MCU needs the FF (since there's no longer a notable tech genius in Tony Stark, Reed Richards can step into that role) and that means building to a threat that could possibly be on the level of Thanos and that means something like Galactus.

Keeping Dr. Doom of course, as a major recurrent villain who is likely to get in a lot of people's business and amplify whatever cosmic threat is headed toward's earth, as well as taking advantage of the political situation of the snap's effects on earth.

Link?

To infinity and beyond, then

The Asguardians of the Galaxy.

We have enough billions now. Leave some for everyone else.

they figured now was a perfect time for them to stop making money; it’s for the best

The MCU timeline is pretty substantial from here out. I realize this is just a plan and plans change, but at this point, why through away billions and not just let Marvel do it's thing, rigth?

I meant Disney+ but he’s getting one about passing on the mantle

That's what I said when I found out. They're not publicizing it too much, probably for Disney's stock's sake.

While this is true, Names such as The X-Men (solo movies?), F4 (Solo movies to change it up from the previous attempts? Obviously not origin)?

I suppose so. Star Wars made it to episode 9. Guess Avengers can too.

🔥

I'm the only one who's sad Loki had to skip reality?

idk if mackie will be able to handle the mantle honestly

Yea, I know. I was just hoping MCU would be more like the comics. :)

Likely, but with a multiverse who knows. Anything is still possible, though I am sure RDJ is fine w moving on or at least taking a break from marvel

No resurrections this time.

I just wonder if 'a soul for a soul' goes both ways. When Tony returns the soul stone, does he get to bring someone back to life?

My gut tells me that this is Disney's plan B. If the MCU doesn't work as well without Iron Man, they can bring him back in an amazing adventure film featuring Cap returning all the stones.

Multiverse means this is almost certainly not going to be true in the long run. They could just throw anyone in an iron man suit if they go anywhere away from the 616. I dont think they will for a while. I'm hoping for more Rescue and possibly Iron Heart in the future.

Oh, i dunno. We might get a multiverse cameo. I mean, Gamora is "alive"right?

It's possible he could come back as an AI right? I feel like that could be a thing...

I see you've never read a Marvel Comic. NO ONE STAYS DEAD. Even Uncle Ben came back eventually!

Umm Nick Fury just told us about the multiverse in this trailer. Anything can come back in a multiverse.

Unless they pull a different iron Man from one of the multi-verses....

M is for Multiverse!

no resurrections this time :(

Well nothing is stopping them. He didnt die by soulstone so they could have just brought him back when they still had the time stone. It hurts like death in dragonball its not quite a consequence but i'm on board the emotional train anyway.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong/insufficient but basically Peter was kinda like a son to him. If you watch Spiderman Homecoming you Stark saw massive potential in Parker. Before they met, Parker was already saving a few people with his own webshooters. Tony saw this and took away what hindered him from being a full, all-out hero (i.e. providing him a legitimate suit).

Despite claiming Parker as just a kid and trying to make himself detached from him & staying just his mentor, it's kinda conveyed that he sees him as a son by being overprotective towards Parker's actions. Obviously, all the investment he puts into Parker would create a bond between the two, and the age gap helps make it more of a father/son bond rather than just a friendship.

1) In Homecoming Tony says to Peter " If something were to ever happen to you, It'd be my fault"

2) In infinity war on the Ship going to save Dr Strange

Peter "It's your fault why I'm here with the suit and all"

Tony *Glares*

End of infinity war: He dies in his arms...

Spiderman is a kid, and was in space just because of Stark where he died so he blamed himself for it all the time. Also it's assumed they bonded a bit off-screen between the movies.

Just playing it safe

THANK YOU!

That's a fair complaint actually. I suppose that's one of the drawbacks of having such a connected universe, but it's likely that after this film and once Phase 4 kicks off, Spider-Man will be more independent and less reliant on other heroes for guidance. He'll probably be more of a leader going forward

Isn't uncle Ben's death implied to already happen?

That speech when in civil war where Tony recruited Peter.

Some people move on, but not us.

And we gotta do something with it. Or Thanos should have killed us all

I was thinking the fact that they keep bringing up Budapest and brought it up one more time in Endgame makes me think it will almost certainly be a prequel.

I think either Banner succeeded with his snap resurrections or the soul stone is gonna have a way out.

For Viz I reckon Shuri has enough Vision to bring him back

Well, Spiderman is going into the SPIDERVERSE, and if there's one thing we know about alternate universes, dead people tend to be alive in them

Dude if black widow has a movie from beyond the grave/soul stone pit or wtv i would be so hype

I think those movies/shows are origin stories, or pre-Thanos similar to Cap Marvel

I'm hoping that multiverse travel = black widow returns.

I'm not convinced Thor isn't jumping on board with the GotG in order to hitch a ride and beat some unrevealed knowledge out of Red Skull that can bring her back. Especially given the scene where Hawkeye tells him what "the red guy" said about it being permanent, and Thor should go take it up with him. Thor just may, and Peter Quill might want to bring back HIS Gamora, so their goals align.

GotG 3: The Search for Spock Black Widow & Gamora.

I want Captain American movies of him returning the stones/getting progressively older with Peggy doing Old Man Cap Shit. Prolly won’t get it but that’s what I want.

I think that her coming back may have something to do with Adam Warlock.

Yeah. the Russo's said famously after Infinity War: "Theyre dead."

Well guess what: they're not.

I honestly think it comes down to making the movie not go beyond its 3 hour run time and a good bye for the characters. I think we are done with Steve and Tony, but will still get to see Vision and Natasha one more time.

Brushed off? We had a scene with all the heroes mourning her

I have a feeling her movie is going to be her story before joining shield

That’s her best story

If Cap took back the Soul Stone, maybe he traded it for her.

Bringing her back would invalidate all of the permanent deaths that took place during the last two movies. She's staying dead I think.

My greatest hope moving forward is that Black Widow returns in some capacity. I’m not ready for her to be gone permanently! I expect her movie to be a prequel, but I’m hoping that the post-credits scene indicates that she could be back.

Maybe this is a crazy idea, but what if the Black Widow movie uses her death/funeral as a framing narrative, where all these other spies she's know come out of the woodwork to reminisce about the Black Widow, meanwhile their stories and flash backs start building another story, the final twist of which only comes out once all these spies get to see things from the point of view of others.

I dunno, I think that'd be pretty cool if done well.

She’s dead, they really hammered that home. I think a prequel works for her though.

Scarlet Witch/Vision will definitely be a sequel though. I could see it involving the resurrection of Vision.

they confirmed that the movie is a prequel, pretty sure she's dead

Ghostbusters!

They could have, at the very least, given the hulk a spotlight in the last battle to show his rage at losing Nat. Movie is 3 flippin hours, what's another 30 seconds for closure?

THREE!

Paul Bettany is a goddamn treasure. And poor Vision went out like a punk.

That bench was already dedicated to Black Widow's memory, like a lot of benches in public parks dedicated to people's memory, oops

I'm just gonna tag this as a spoiler just in case.

Did that scene not bother anyone else because you never hear the bench land? It was just thrown into the air and you never hear it hit the trees or land in the water.

"So you're probably wondering how I got to this point."

The world knew Tony Stark is Iron Man, but Black Widow worked more quietly. I hope they will have some tribute to her but I don’t think a big funeral would fit her character.

Especially since we already have a scene with her family reacting to her death, going through different stages of grief, coming to terms with her passing.

guess what happened to the soul stone

Does she go into the same soul stone or the soul stone from the timeline they got it from?

How about how the whole point of Scott going to the Quantum realm was to get particles to help cure Ghost and that was just left by the wayside?

I can't tell if everyone not knowing this reference is a joke or if I'm being whooshed.

guess what happened to the soul stone

"Lost my second good eye."

She's still a core Avenger that's been there since the beginning, and an extremely popular character. In-universe, she was closer to Steve, Clint and Bruce as a friend than Tony. The Avengers don't win - period - without her getting the Stone for them. A big public funeral doesn't necessarily fit, but for her to only be briefly mentioned in passing for the entire third act is insufficient.

i'm sorry.... i can only afford to lose one friend today...

Yes but I think RDJ doesn't want to commit so much time to playing IM. I guess what I'm saying is that any future appearances of RDJ will all be CGI so the AI Tony making an appearance after real Tony's death will exactly mimic what happened in the comics.

I don't understand. If Spider-Man isn't a bitch, then why is Mysterio undoubtedly going to try to fuck him like a bitch?