Today TILL told me that Canadians have a Constitutional right to vape.

Go on...

Get real, IANAL all the time, so I should know you don't.

Pitcher or catcher?

I have tagged you a non anal virgin

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said the boy in the bubble... Time to go to school Johnny..don't be late!

I don't want my tax dollars going to vapists!

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whatever the fuck those are, even the SCC isn't sure

What the hell are you talking about? There's a long legal tradition on "fundamental justice" in Canada and the UK (it is called "natural justice" there), where we inherited our system of law from.

The Americans call it "due process," it's almost the same concept, but we call it "fundamental justice."

From the article on fundamental justice on Wikipedia:

In Canadian and New Zealand law, fundamental justice is the fairness underlying the administration of justice and its operation. The principles of fundamental justice are specific legal principles that command "significant societal consensus" as "fundamental to the way in which the legal system ought fairly to operate", per R v Malmo-Levine. These principles may stipulate basic procedural rights afforded to anyone facing an adjudicative process or procedure that affects fundamental rights and freedoms, and certain substantive standards related to the rule of law that regulate the actions of the state (e.g., the rule against unclear or vague laws). The degree of protection dictated by these standards and procedural rights vary in accordance with the precise context, involving a contextual analysis of the affected person's interests. In other words, the more a person's rights or interests are adversely affected, the more procedural or substantive protections must be afforded to that person in order to respect the principles of fundamental justice. A legislative or administrative framework that respects the principles of fundamental justice, as such, must be fundamentally fair to the person affected, but does not necessarily have to strike the "right balance" between individual and societal interests in general.

And in some case more VG and PG.

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What's VG?

Do you mean hygroscopic?

hygroscopic*

Hydroscopic? So it has the properties of a hydroscope?

We get it, you vape.

there is also the flavorings that people might have a reaction to

Not to mention, the water you are blowing out is your own water.

As in - your spit.

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there are many things that are extremely rude.

The mayor banning rudeness is moralistic bullshit, what's next? ban farting?

There are many things that are extremely rude.

The mayor banning rudeness is moralistic bullshit, what's next? a ban on farting?

I am an avid vaper and have been for about 2-3 years. Here in Scotland it is illegal to smoke in pubs, or any other public building. I still go outside the pub to use my vape and people outside smoking are sometimes like "you don't need to come out here in the rain with that you can just use it in the pub". I really hate the idea of blowing it in people's faces indoors and for strangers to have to smell and inhale my addiction. I don't get it

But there are no laws against wearing Axe body spray but I find it incredibly rude to have to share a bus seat with someone who blasts half a can of that before heading to work.

Let's also ban perfume and those who smell like curry from public areas.

My cousin, who own an e-liquid business, actually recently found out he, as well as his brother, are allergic to the PG in the juice. They break out in rashes when they vape so they have to make custom liquids without it. So this is fair to say.

Edit: my cousin is apparently not a mountain range

In all fairness, perfume is probably more of an irritant than PG is.

Aside from possibly being physically irritating, it's just plain obnoxious. Even if it were perfectly healthy in every way, I don't much like having a cloud of sickly sweet bullshit blown into my face while I'm trying to go about my day.

Not to mention dickhead cloud chasers fogging up an entire room. That's never okay.

Another one rides the bus

Another one rides the bus

Another comes on and another comes on

Another one rides the bus

Hey, who's gonna sit by you

Another one rides the bus

I know I get irritated when people near me are vaping.

Well I hope those people don't go to hospital or travel on planes where it is pumped into the air as a germicide.

PG is harmless, unless you're a germ.

And if you Vape on a bus you are a douche. Vape at home or in the open air away from people (especially children) and everything will be okay.

it's the same stuff that'[s in smoke machines on music concerts, pg is used in many medicines too. Its effects are well known.

Same goes with perfume, but they aren't ban in public spaces.

You can eat peanuts in public, despite many people being very allergic to them.

WiFi could be irritating to some individuals

Then why don't you ban trees and flowers, pollen irritate more than some people.

My brother spent this summer vaping in the room under my bedroom, because it was the only place in the house where our parents couldn't smell it. I have asthma and every morning I'd wake up feeling like I was about to get bronchitis or pneumonia. I used my inhaler more last summer than the rest of my life combined. I don't know what it was like people still smoked cigarettes everywhere, but anything in the air that isn't oxygen is going to make people sick.

It's also a key ingredient in a lot of those "water enhancers" that you can use to add flavor/vitamins to your water. It's "generally recognized as safe" for food use by the FDA; the health concerns about vaping are about the effects of inhalation.

PG is a food grade "antifreeze" that also carries flavor well. It's commonly found in things that need to be kept cold or frozen but aren't meant to be frozen solid, among other things. Most cough syrups have PG as well as toothpaste.

The antifreeze properties (because it's freezing point is lower than water) are the cause of the misinformation spread commonly about ejuice claiming that it has antifreeze in it, which just makes everyone think of the stuff you put in a car, which is grossly inaccurate.

Yeah their is definitely different grades of pg. It's often used in cosmetics, as a food additive, in medications and as antifreeze in water for livestock. I think it's also used for de-icing planes, but I'm not entirely sure.

I know it has a farm use as well, we sold it in our farm supply store and 16 year olds would come in looking for it, look at the gallon for a while, and leave without making eye contact

PG is very common, and yes used as a flavor carrier, and in many foods. there's food-grade and pharma grade nicotine, vapers use pharma-grade, which has less contaminations.

but are they different types of propylene glycol?

No but yes: Same chemical, different purity grades. There's industrial grade which is used as e.g. anti-freeze (it's just a liquid that has a low freezing point), there's food-grade (used as carrier for flavours etc), and then there's pharmaceutical grade, which is used e.g. in inhalers.

Vaping liquid generally uses the latter, at least over here in Germany. It's a mass-produced bulk item (you can buy it by the train wagon) and as it's already quite an achievement to go through half a litre of liquid in a month and the price difference between a litre of food and industrial grade is mere cents, it's really easy to splurge on quality, here.

Ethylene glycol is the nasty component of antifreeze.

Food‐grade propylene glycol is (probably) harmless.

Not all liquids are created equally. I vape, hate the cream flavors, hate when anyone vapes it. Shit can be really fucking annoying.

Also, maybe you should stop followig smokers.

What solution do you propose for "cracking down" on people walking and smoking? Where would you rather they go?

Agreed. A while back when e-cigs were just becoming popular a bunch of idiots got on my bus and vaped up a storm. I got off at the next stop but I still got a migraine because it was the most scented fragranced chemical peach smell on the planet. It does affect other people.

But what is exactly in that stuff. Everyone is saying that it's all toxic but noone's bothered to come up with the sauce.

on the plus side, instead of bad texts being full of misspelled words they're full of perfectly spelled nonsense.

There is a great novel which uses this phenomenon as a premise! The Word Exchange by Alena Graedon

your life sounds terrible

I'm struggling now-a-days too.. I question myself constantly. You know what helps? Crosswords. I learn the most random words & I have to learn how to spell everything. I probably sound like I'm 90, but it really helps! Try calling someone hirsute & see how many ppl under 70 know wtf you're talking about.

I am very glad my phone asks me to double check spelling before adding a word to my dictionary. It's like a fail-safe.

damn, I feel the same way. I feel like my spelling ability went down a lot... I thought I'm just getting older (still 20s) but maybe it's because of autocorrect.

Then you never know wich one is the corect speeling! Its frustrting.

I turned off autocorrect because I got sick of it fucking up all the time. I was shocked to see how bad and lazy my spelling/typing had gotten as a result of using it. I've gotten used to typing properly again now, but man.

You see the same affect with other noun/verb combos. Some people can't get it right and it really effects my opinion of them.

What.

Holy shit.

My life is a lie.

Does the pronunciation change between those?

It's EXTREMELY difficult to see why people are mixing them up.

Motherfuckers need to read more.

No. If you've ever read a book, it's really not that hard.

/r/MandelaEffect

More specifically, the /r/BerensteinConspiracy

Because they haven't been taught the difference, perhaps.

I honestly didn't know that at all. I'm pretty baffled.

Background: I'm was born in America and moved to Germany at a young age. Still was fluent in English.

English spelling is so stupid

your a noun

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The only reason I can remember how to spell it is because I remember it has the word "finite" in it. If it weren't for that I'd never get it.

Boners always make me feel better.

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He has other ways to make you feel less alone...

I used to use that one as a litmus test for stupid, but almost everyone seems to get it wrong, including close family and friends. :{

In my experience people speaking english as their second language are better at these sort of things. Maybe because they learned the words from text and not from speech.

Same with chose and choose

Affect and effect is the opposite I've found, first languagers mess it up all the time

So a maniac can be on the lose while he is apprehended quickly due to the sound of loose change in his pocket jingling down the street? Is that correct?

Don't take it personally, homie

Like the word like being used as a filler word.

Which doesn't make sense because I never see people confuse men and man.

"She's a really smart women!"

Drives me fucking bonkers. Ugh

Ahgreed.

More than sometimes.

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Are you in America? I've rarely ever seen these words used outside of books. Definitely no enough to consider them often misused.

What's your problem with crocodiles?

Your/you're and their/there/they're are so common that people expect to see the wrong use multiple times in a day.

But... you don't say the e. The <e> makes up the second part of the split digraph <ee>. The first e is the first e in the word brEathe, and the second is the second - breathE. They combine to make ee, and are split by <ath>.

No.

It's also confusing since the capital of Ontario IS Toronto, but Canada's capital is Ottawa

Also, I messed up that question as a young babby

Forget Canadian, every young Ottawan screws up that question at least once.

Source: my grade 1 quiz 9/10 still remember that lost point

Me too. Only because I want a lot of Mixed Martial Arts and those are the only 3 cities ever mentioned. Otherwise I barely know anything about Canada

Since they are the top 3 cities in Canada by population (and similar in size to some large US metropolitan areas) that makes a lot of sense. There's a bit of a drop-off to Ottawa, Calgary and Edmonton (all around 1.2M) which is why they aren't quite so well known.

amberlamps*

it is. most people who vape try not to bother people with it. I always go outside or away from people. the problem is the minority of assholes who think they look cool.

Thing is you don't even notice the regular vapers who are discrete. Most of us don't want anyone to know we vape

So "I saw a group of really shitty people vaping" = "vaping is only for shitty people"?

This is the logic that has led to people hating vaping.

My co-worker who's already teetering on the edge of getting fired is a vaper and has gotten caught vaping in our building twice against company policy. He straight up denies that's what he was doing even when he has his pen out. It's infuriating.

You get shit that's been in their lungs and mouth regardless of whether they smoke or not though...

I agree with your point, but do you get mad when people breathe near you too?

This. I make it a point to try and avoid bothering people when vaping. I know the jury is still out on the effects but personally its changed my life. I hate the stigma it gets not from the act itself but some obnoxious inconsiderate people.

I don't want some shit that's been in your lungs and mouth around my mouth.

You already do. Everyday.

I get your point, but don't be a priss about it. There are shit particles floating around in the air at all times, not to mention other people's general exhale.

I do vape

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I don't vape, and neither I nor anyone else have had a problem with vaping

Mainly because it smells really nice :/

Lol but it smellz good tho! Just water vapor ne way

Edit: Just a heads up, i was kidding. didn't think the /s was necessary but real people actually do say this bullshit so that's on me.

Waiting for some Australians or some other people to chime in telling us that their constitution specifically allows "farting on the bus."

And be proud of it.

Hold it until you get off, please.

I'm happy that you distinguished axe from cologne.

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I smoke, and have vaped as well, for me it's more the fact that it's my bad habit, and of course it shouldn't in any affect other people. In this case it means going outside to smoke/vape. It's really not that big of a deal. My choice, and I will suffer the consequences, not the people around me.

Whatever is in that shit dries my throat out. I had to ride in a van with a guy doing it the whole time. "It's only water vapor." Whatever cool guy, it's giving me a sore throat knock that sissy shit off.

Just more opportunities to whine.

As if vaping is not harmful? We thought tobacco was fine for decades. Thirty years from now it will be common knowledge that vaping causes some terrible disease, and we'll all look back and be amazed at how stupid people were to think that it was fine.

1) Its not as harmful but yes it is still harmful

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28723-vaping-really-isnt-as-harmful-for-your-cells-as-smoking/

2) The exhale still contains trace amounts of the original chemicals present in the vape liquid, this chemical being nicotine, which does have harmfull side effects to the heart specifically, so why should somebody be forced against their will to "consume" nicotine in public places.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4363846/

Driving is an essential function for society, both on a social and economic level. There are numerous pressures - socially, economically, and legally - for cars to be made with higher standards.

Farting is a biological function that is literally impossible to stop completely. Vaping is 100% voluntary. What we can do is enact social pressure on those who fart in public and make it a social taboo. The same can be said for wearing too much bad cologne or perfume.

There is great power in social taboo.

If you are close enough to me that I can smell the rest of your breath that comes along with it, then yes, absolutely.

Well shit, now I feel like r/iamverysmart

More like he was using the kids spelling as a guide of his own.

I doubt it.

I feel like dropping breathe* with the asterisk sufficiently sends the message

If he was, why didn't he spell it correctly and mark it with an asterisk or something like: "If you can breathe* water"

Doubt it.

No! Quotes are for "emphasis only"!

Did you see the game?

drinks harder

We're closer than the other pleb Canadian teams.

Ottawa hasn't been eliminated. Toronto has.

Bytown is acceptable if you want to call it that

The ones that have strong smells do. In my small classroom a kid was vaping and I got a pretty bad headache.

perfume store

I think they go by "Abercrombie"

The First Amendment protects you from government censorship. Someone telling you to stop being a racist dickhole isn't a First Amendment case.

It's hilarious to me that so many people think the First Amendment somehow gives you license to say whatever you want, free of punishment. And by 'hilarious', I mean 'fucking atrocious'.

They typically completely disregard private property rights at the same time.

Yes, and blowing smoke is probably better than blowing rat poison into peoples faces, doesn't mean it's good.

Take a few deep breathes

2meta2fast

Just breathe

The second is just him messing with the kid. The tweet wasn't worthy of a serious response.

Classic home grown content for the sub.

i almost want to take a screenshot of OPs comment and submit it to the sub.

#rekt

Goddamn that's embarrassing. A Canadian who doesn't know we have a Constitution.

We've always had a Constitution, no federal state can exist without one, otherwise by default you'd be a unitary state.

The Charter of Rights and Freedoms is Part I of the Constitution Act, 1982.

He might be referring to the city charter.

But the bit that defines our rights is the Charter. Also, it's an Americanism to refer to "the constitution" instead of "the charter of rights and freedoms", and "freedom of speech" instead of "freedom of expression", etc.

The kid just watches too much American TV.

Part of the Constitution Act, 1982. Its not just a constitution, its part of an act called the Constitution Act.

Because nobody ever cites the Constitution in everyday parlance. If "rights" are ever mentioned, it's usually in relation to the Charter.

Other countries don't really give a shit about their constitution. Australia has one too and nobody pays any attention to it. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot down here don't know we have one, and those that do have no idea what it says

fun fact: the Charter is actually a schedule appeneded to our constitution because during the patriation, the British Parliament, only operating in English obviously, couldn't pass an Act that was bilingual so they had to pass a law that said "this appendix is part of the constitution" (slightly different wording, but you get the gist).

The Canadian constitution is nowhere near as important s the american one, enough to not be comparable. Plus, it's always been pretty sketchy, with the provinces voicing opposition and in the case of Québec, never endorsing it.

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Maybe it slipped his mind because it's dead. I'm glad the US constitution is still a living, breathing document.

http://www.theonion.com/article/perky-canada-has-own-government-laws-19927

Holy shit, so many people have no idea about constitutions...

I hate vapers like this. I vape, but in public I go for cigarette-size clouds and usually stick to alleys or whatever. I see other people vaping in trains and in bars (it's banned here) and it's infuriating to see that they have no concept of being modest. It's not that hard people--don't vape where you wouldn't smoke. Respect the people around you.

Although my preferred flavor is a bowl of milky fruit loops, I still get that other people might not want the scent of cereal facefucking their nostrils.

Breathe*

Breathes*

Yeah but it's a weird thing to ban. It doesn't pose a health risk.

It would be a stretch to argue that as an extension of that one has the right to vape in enclosed public spaces.

Besides, Québec never endorsed the Canadian constitution so you're right, we don't really have one.

You do know that Quebec is still bound by the Constitution even though it didn't sign it, right?

The Supreme Court of Canada ruled before patriation that the federal government could unilaterally patriate the Constitution without provincial consent, and ruled after patriation that even though Quebec was not a signatory to the Constitution, it was still bound by it.

so you're right, we don't really have one.

/r/iamverysmart

Well nicotine for one. Vapes have fewer chemicals than regular cigs but they still have chemical compunds in them. Google it.

LRT is nice but it's draining our funding right now, but Jim is still trying to spend as if it's not which I find irritating.

Lansdowne is never going to be okay.

Are we all not realizing the kid spelled it incorrectly first?

Wish you had said, "I think he did it on porpoise", 'cuz aquarium/mispelling joke.

Shit, I mean verb! I’m sorry!

I met the guy downtown but his place was by Billings Bridge

there is more than that which is released.

the vaporization of those PG/VG/nicotine/flavorings creates all sorts of dare i say it, toxins, just very negligible levels. No where close to a cigarette being combusted

Amen...

Where did either of them say that?

How? I don't see any thesaurus abuse, arrogance, or condescension. He just didn't agree with the law.

It's really more a /r/dadjokes type post.

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Well only if there was a lot of it. 2 oxygen atoms would probably be ok.