New Hunter Legendary Weapon!! Rhok'delar

Time to tech in Weasel Tunneller guys.

Ah, I was wondering what weapon I was going to get for free.

I'm really looking forward to opening this and playing it at ranks 15, 10 and 5.

They really did it...

Now the question we are all thinking is... why??

No minions ✔

Random card generation ✔

Keep up the great work blizz

Hunter died for this..

Laughs in Stampede

I know it may not look like much, but I really like the idea of the deck and will play it, because if you put your heart into your deck, and are rank 20, all decks can be viable

*Release date of the new expansion

-wow, blizz gave us a free legendary weapon

*it's hunter's weapon

*uninstall hearthstone

why

Everybody complained Hunter didn't have identity. Blizzard finally gives them full meme power, and people will still be complaining... /s

Forced Control Hunter with no removal minions. No doomsayer no ooze no Alex no lich king

I REALLY hope this wont be my free legendary weapon.......

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

calling it now, one of the worst meme decks in quite a while

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The problem with this card was so evident in the stream when half the cards that were produced needed minions on the field to even be usable. Absolute dog shit tier

Priests are laughing at how powerful Purify is compared to this.

I love how some meme about the legendary weapon were almost right

Now you can play control hunter full of shitty control hunter spells to get more shitty control hunter spells.

I'm ready for the memes

What if we gave it lifesteal and poison too used it with deathstalker

You won´t reach 7 mana in a normal game with no minions in a hunter deck. Also you need the turn afterwards to play all your spells. Bad.

Okay, now you can probably get mad...

Battlecry: If your deck is full of garbage cards, fill your hand with garbage cards

inb4 high minded Mike Donais ad hominem comment about evaluating cards

Oh boy! I can't wait to get a hand full of Infest, Stampede, Bestial Wrath, Smuggler's Crate, Play Dead, Dinomancy, and Hidden Cache. This card is an epic fail.

I know it probably won't be a good deck but I love the fantasy behind a no minion hunter deck. Hunting alone, laying traps and controlling the battlefield (kiting).

So, you're playing a bunch of reactive cards meaning you can't dump your hand out. Then you draw a few more reactive cards for 7 mana randomly?

Why the fuck are they giving a meme archetype to the worst class in the game.

This isn't fucking complicated blizzard. You give the good cards to the classes that are struggling, you give the joke meme cards to the classes that are strong.

Why did you do it backwards? Why is priest getting amazing standalone cards while hunter gets memed on?

"You know 95% of the cards? You can't play them. "

What a dumbass theme.

the art is insane.

I didn't see the stream, was this when Day9 turned to bbrode and said "wtf are you doing"?

This is kind of upsetting lol. This weapon is only playable in a completely counter intuitive archetype in a class with the worst spells in the game :|

I didn't hate this weapon until Day9 and Brode started shitting on the people who hated To My Side with "look how good this is!!!" At this point it feels arrogant and leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

This still feels like a shitty joke. Hunters arent spell casters...none of this makes any sense.

Way to add salt to the injury lmao

How are people justifying buying this expansion lmao.

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On one hand this seems to be built around using Recruit to drag all the minions out of your deck, not just literally never using any minions ever.

On the other hand, that still sucks.

So sad... I wanted to play Hunter this expansion (I won't)

At this point I'm not even mad or disappointed anymore. This card shows that Blizzard gave absolutely zero shits about Hunter this expansion, and I think the best thing we're able to do against is just laugh in disbelief.

DUST

Im speechless.

I mean I'm interested in trying to make this work with spell summons like snake trap and the other snake trap and cat snake trap. Not to mention DK rexar.

But i can't believe hunter of all classes is the class they are chosing to give this mechanic to

Trolden is rubbing his hands at the meme potential

Why .... just why ?

So this is just a thought, but I think there is a chance this might actually turn out to be playable. It’s like getting the dream Lock and Load turn, except you only need to spend one card. People initially made fun of Lyra because “lol random priest spells, what are you going to do with those”, but it turns out that generating a LOT of random spells at once is insane value. Having options that the opponent has no way of playing around can be powerful, and what hunter needs most in the late game are options. Especially if they’re playing... ahem, a no-minions deck.

Most likely I’ll eat my words, but I wouldn’t write this card off just yet. If this crazy deck actually works then this weapon will be a big reason why.

This actually looks really fun. The deck will probably suck, but the effect on this is pretty cool (and might be pretty strong).

Looking foward to getting my face smashed in by Rogue and Priest.

I FUCKING LOVE THIS. I CANNOT WAIT TO PLAY IT.

I know this card isn't meant for everyone but it's definitely meant for me.

I swear if I get this as my free legendary weapon I will make this deck work. I kinda want to try even if I have to craft it myself.

I'll go on the record now.

Minion-less hunter goes at least tier 2 in the new meta.

If you can stabilize to turn 8 AND play rexxar and this on curve then no minion control hunter might work. Then you would have a big spell hand to play with and can start building minions. I don't think hunter has enough early removal to reliably keep their life total high in the early game, they have no healing to stabilize past the 5 armor from rexxar, and only 1 card draw spell. Furthermore, I'm not sure that spells and build a beasts will be able to rush down exodia mage and velen razakus before they draw into their finishing combos.

Edit: if you play this on curve then you'll burn your next draw, right?

I think some people may be missing the point. One of hunter's greatest problems is that they've run out of steam in the late game. The wording of the card doesn't prevent you from running minions, it just prevents you from having minions. With cards like Hemet or recruit cards, you could potentially clear your deck and use this as a late game refresher into otherwise lost control matchups. Although every card isn't valuable in a deck, I'd be willing to cut one random card in order to put this in as a late game power card.

So, what, they're trying to shoehorn the Marksman spec into hearthstone now? Seems really weird that a class with so much beast synergy is getting "no minion" synergy now.

Could work. Hunter has some sick spells like feign death or infestation...

What’s crazy is with this forced confusing archetype, Hunter shouldn’t use any neutral cards.

You shouldn’t use [[Cloaked Huntress]] or [[Professor Putricide]], two cards that heavily synergize with secrets.

Hunter has no turn 1 play other than tracking. I guess [[arcane shot]], or [[On the Hunt!]] but why would you do that?

If we look at the spells that Hunter will randomly fill their hand with, [[Infest]] has little value, [[Stampede]] is a dead card unless you have DK Rexxar. [[Dinomancy]] would let you hero power on your 3/3 wolves or two leokks, but then you’d be stuck with it the whole game. [[Play Dead]] is literally uncastable unless you stitched a deathrattle beast.

Hunter also has very poor control spells, [[Grevious Bite]] is usually useless, [[Multi-Shot]] is a joke, [[Explosive Shot]] is hard to land successfully, and [[Deadly Shot]] leaves many games down to pure chance.

Why would we even try this archetype? No minions Hunter is probably the least fun you can have with this game.

Not gonna lie, this card is just insulting lmao. What an awful card

Okay , guys , do you remember worst hearthstone decks? I think we need need pool. Discard Warlock>Freeze shaman >no minions hunters!!

This ... Could be worse

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Bwahahahha. My god, this is bad.

oh my fucking god i thought it was just memes....

Not incredible, but not trash tier? Maybe here in an expansion or two no minion hunter might not be too bad

Thank you blizzard, you just confirmed this is trow-away expansion and saved me 50$

Just remember how many spells Hunter has that finish the game against other control decks.

This is my favorite card of the set. Makes my want to build a hunter deck, and I've never seen a hunter deck I've wanted to build before.

I’m not even gonna lie, this looks fun to play.

I wonder where exactly blizzard went wrong and started making these shit cards. They know full well everyone will hate them, won't play them, and just make fun of blizzard and the team 5 designers. So why do they do it?

Looks terrible but i dont know. This no minions shit might actually work.

Wow pay 7 mana. If you last that long. Get 7 crushing walls. Wow team 5 great design space. Lol

Lol a nerf to my boi millhouse manastorm Why bilzz....

Whoever was in charge of making hunter cards this expansion should be fucking fired, its actually a disgrace.

Are people perhaps making too big a deal about this no-creatures hunter thing? What if the idea is not to play no creatures, but to get rid of all your creatures by pulling them onto the battlefield with Recruit?

This is just too expensive for how bad hunter spells are (especially when you don't have minions!). Crushing walls, play dead, dinomancy, smuggler's crate, bestial wrath, hidden cache, on the hunt...

I love how they are completely shitting on Hunters since Call of the Wild nerf, which was uncalled for.

Are you fucking kidding?

I can't wait to get a hand full of stampedes using this

I feel like Spell Hunter could actually kind of work. It runs secrets for defense, Animal Companion, To My Side, The Spellstone, Eagehorn Bow, Flanking Strike, this, and probably Grand Archivist is too greedy (but sweet, since it hits defensive secrets a lot).

The current meta's pretty slow, and this set is full of super-good AOE spells to slow it down further. I'm not saying spell hunter is gonna be Tier 1, but I think its odds of making it into tier 3 are actually kind of reasonable, and the sub's furious angry rage might be overblown

This sucks. Was really excited for Hunter this set, and we get memefuel. Ugh.

Nice meme.

shoutout to /u/SpectraQWERTY for totally calling this 10 days ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/7fewck/im_gonna_call_it_now_the_legendary_hunter_weapon/

i'm just impressed.

Play dead, smugglers crate, hidden cache, infest, bestial wraith, dinomancy, and stampede will be sick to fill your hand with in a no miniom deck.

Because quest paladin was sooo good.

These cards aren’t even meme worthy, there’s absolutely no way you can live to 7 mana without minions in a hunter deck. And even if you do, hunter spells are garbage AND barf, this shitty weapon fills your hand with garbage and barf!

How are you going to survive until turn 7?

And how are you going to survive after turn 7?

Someone who plays for fun will spend dust trying to make this deck work, meanwhile some dumbass priest tryhard will play psychic scream and BM the hunter for the rest of the game.

This, I think, is the most aggravating thing. Fun decks directly countered by OP ones. Not even in terms of power level, but in terms of mechanics. Like team 5 deliberately wants this to be that way.

Marvelous!

You have to build a whole deck of spells, none of which are healing, none of which are good AoE, with very limited draw (basically only Tracking) and survive somehow to turn 7 to equip this weapon. Your glorious reward is then a hand full of random spells (which again offer no healing or great AoE)...

Let's now imagine for a second that this very peculiar strategy doesn't work out. Then, well the main thing of this expansion is simply unavailable and you then must continue to run a normal Midrange Hunter which uses basically the same cards it did in 2014.

10/10 design Blizzard, you really outdid yourselves

First grade garbage. Showcased by Ben "Fake Laugh" Brode in a staged game together with Day9, who was frankly really embarrassed this time.

crafting "lone wolf" hunter day 1. I belong in rank 15 and this will get me there...

Even if it didn't have the condition it still wouldn't be so good. Mainly because hunter spells are filled with a lot of crap

Yogg meta

I just don't get it. There's no way Hunter board removal is on the level of any other classes. People are just going to go the highest tier control deck like Priest or Warlock or Warrior. Hunter's card draw is inconstient and relies on combos.

Hopefully the one card they make per expac for face and midrange is good.

Kinda disappointed... I was expecting the weapon to say “battlecry: recruit two 6 mana or less minions from your deck if you have no minions in your deck”

The funny thing is that you could kinda try to pull spell hunter off with a secret package.

Except you'd be running secret synergy.

How is a no aoe, no healing, poor removal class, no card draw going to deal with not having minions. Like. For real?

Better give Priest mroe stuff tho!

Played on curve it comes with a very handy FREE CARD MILL. The value is amazing

Just going to point this out, as no-one else has:

[Rhok'delar, Longbow of the Ancient Keepers] was the best hunter weapon from vanilla WoW. It was obtained through a difficult quest that required beating 4 demons without help from allies or pets. So the flavor is real, although it doesn't excuse the shitty design.

Lol at hunter... What are the devs doing...

Well uh, I mean it's alright, which means it won't see play

And here I was hoping theyd release an awesome card like Thor'idal for the weapon expansion. Nope cant have nice things

What hunter deck is not going to have minions?

Nice Brann synergy, at least. /s

Dude it's grinder hunter.

Or dust fodder.

I thought this was a customhearthstone joke.

Don’t worry everyone, most of the time you’ll have lost way before you have a chance to play this!

You know what’s crazy? With slightly better payoffs this deck could’ve worked, maybe by recruiting a bunch of minions and then playing some busted “no minion” spells.

Too bad the payoffs aren’t good, and Hunter’s only recruit is an 8-drop.

Obviously you’d play this if it didn’t have the deckbuilding clause, but hunter just does not have the density of good spells.

Savage.

7 mana 4/2

nice

Hmm..hopefully there are more then just 2 "no minion" cards. On the plus side, their Death Knight gives infinite value if you draw it.

I was secretly hoping you could choose your animal companions, even twice, so you could double Huffer their face

Unplayable trash. As useless as the warlock weapon.

I'm going to make a spell hunter decks, and I'm going to make it work, and when I make rank 5 with it it's going to be glorious. Hunter has some anzijg spells

I actually like this card, but there aren’t enough tools to incentivize playing a minion less hunter deck. If we get good hunter spells this deck could be really cool.

This is ridiculous.

whats this “no minions” bullshit, ffs blizz

If they unnerfed Yogg this could be pretty sweet

PRAISE YOGG!

FOR NOW THE TIME HAS COME TO BECOME A TRUE SERVANT OF THE GOD OF DEATH!

Seriously I'll build a Yogg-no-minion-hunter with that.

Looks really fun and I'm glad it seems like there is more deck building dynamics, but it still seems kinda bad plus once again Hearthstone embraces the clown fiesta when people have been asking for less rng.

Actually I would love those cards if it was allowing like 4 minions, you could play Yogg, you could play Barnes + Y'Shaarj, it would be quite fun but with litterally no minion, nope.

Aaaaay, the quest for this weapon is one of my favorite from vanilla, and I never even played hunter. I just liked helping hunters get it.

Complaints aside. The "no minions"-deck could be realised by Yogg-and-Load Hunter with Barnes and Yshaarj (and maybe Yogg). Would be a highroll deck like big priest with an option to refill the hand if the opponent has removal for Yshaarj.

Man they're really trying to push Yogg and load.

So you spend your mana to fill your hand with crap, only to be forced to mill a potentially good card next turn. Unless of course, you wait even longer than turn 7 to cast it.

my only thought here is that it looks like aggro hunter will not be pushed as hard in the next few sets and no minion hunter will be pushed harder. I'm not sure if that will be that good thing unless non-minion neutral cards become a thing.

TBH, I think this card should cost 4 so at worst it is a shitty trusilver and at best it is a trusilver that makes no minion hunter a thing

No minion decks should have been mage.

OwO? What's this ^garbage?

Seems that control hunter will be a deck with no minions and instead spells that generate minions along with the hunter DK. This design basically forces them to out of the "play minions on curve" gameplay that is so strong in hunter.

Calling it now: next expansion we'll get a 1-mana spell "If your deck has no minions, destroy a random enemy minion.", a 2-mana spell "If your deck has no minions, draw 3 cards", a 3-mana spell "Deal 2 damage to all minions, 4 damage if your deck has no minions.", and a 4-mana 2/3 weapon that reads "Has +3 attack if your deck has no minions."

Ben Brode will then laugh at us for talking so much shit about Rexxar.

Because what hunter has minions in their deck?

I actually kinda like it. People were talking about hoping for more "bow-like" Hunter spells. I feel like this may be a step in the right direction.

A problem with good Hunter cards is that Hunter's core aggressive cards are really good. Highmane, Kill Command, Unleash the Hounds, etc. are all very good. It's tough to push strong Hunter minions because of this.

So I like the idea of having a "Lone Wolf" build, and I hope it gets more support in the future.

... Shouldn't [By my side] have been like the Death Knight spells to you know not suck?

Man, I'd rather play Gladiator's Longbow and now I won't even be able to do that because everyone is going to be oozing.

This is gonna be the next meta netdeck that everyone will be playing.

Time for Yogg Hunter!!!

This is the same wording as "If your deck has no duplicates" and "If your deck has no 2-mana cards". You can put minions in the deck, but the cards won't activate until you draw the minions.

Another great archetype like discardlock, so much fun!

Jesus Christ, Blizzard

This card is so bad it wouldn’t be played even without the condition

No way lol, they’re really pushing this archetype

They actually did it. RIP Hunter

I cant believe you've done this.

A bow has idk a quiver too to store arrows. Why the does this have 2 charges?

Downvote me to oblivion, but after seeing the deck in action (granted, it was only once in a controlled, basically preset environment), I don't think this no minion hunter thing is that bad. I know this weapon shoehorns you into that one specific deck, but, as it's a battlecry weapon with attack, it doesn't get completely destroyed by weapon removal and it makes To My Side at least decent. Also, I keep seeing people say, "well, in the weapon expansion, hunters now can't run weapon removal in no minon decks lolololololol." I mean, you can still run minions in your deck, but you just need to draw them to activate these no minion cards. You could run a light minion hunter deck and use cards like To My Side and this weapon as later game options with spells. Or, you could run the new hunter legendary and only big beasts - the legendary pulls out your minions, opening up these "no minion" options. I don't feel like this is as bad as people are acting.

This would actually be really good if it didn't have the "No minions in your deck" requirement :(

Guys I figured it out! They’re adding support for the hunter challenge against the Lich King, how could be so short sighted in not seeing the new class identity /s

this is one of those cards that don't really feel legendary.

Oh look Legendary pack filler.

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Would be tier 1 if priest hadn't become psychic scream this expansion.

Fuck in the actual what?

not gonna say this card is shit but this card is shit.

waiting for the hand full of randomly generated kill commands without a beast to activate them.

Would hemet jungle Hunter work well to remove early game minions and leave you with no minions left for these cards?

I honestly think this will end up being better than most people think, but still not good. Hunter is just too hard to balance honestly. Either it goes face and is no fun and can win a decent amount with that or it is just bad.

Remember the last time two legendaries synergized with each other? (discard quest plus the beast lady) What a waste of cards

r/madlads

I like it. I'm not sure if the type of deck this is for will be very good in this expansion, but I'm all for another type of Hunter deck thats not just full on aggro with non-stop small-mid beasts.

Yes BB you did it!

Another card we can use to defeat the lich king, so cooooooooool Kappa

I hope I open this weapon in my free legendary. I will accept my fate as the meme hunter on ladder. You will see me and know I am the lone hunter. Ex druid here, mark my words.

Lmao and people told me the weapon would make no minion hunter viable

I can't wait to rope every turn I get to cast To My Side on 6 and this on 7.

Oh my god, I have that bow in WoW! That's super cool! It was one of the big fancy bows back in vanilla which an long and invoved quest for it.

It has a sweet animation where different kinds of plants and fungi bloom along the bow's length in sequence.

Would 10 free spells really be so bad? What if there's more spells that aren't shown yet that synergize with this.

This is discardlock all over again

So hunter, the only class (apart from warlock) with 'minions' in WoW, is getting a no minions ij deck theme. Cant wait to open this as my first legendary to go with my Putricide

My god... the memes came to life. This is like a nightmarish Pinocchio

Day 9 is such a pro he almost seemed believable when praising spell hunter. This weapon would be average without the requirement, just like To My Side.

THEY WENT AND FUCKING DID IT, CAUSE HUNTER DIDN'T NEED A GOOD MIDRANGE CARD DID IT.

so how the hell do you win with this deck? Arcane Shot face?

12 months from now: omg could we please get some cards to buff priest and make it viable, anything to get away from this Hunter meta..

And the cycle continues...

JK but I think this sub is seriously overreacting without seeing how the brand-new meta shakes out

if minionless hunter somehow becomes a thing, can we agree to call it Oops All Spells!

I guess you mistaked the flair, it is currently "competitive"

Probably add the immune tag to this, spell hunter will be playable. Hunter cannot survive face roll.

Watch this become stupid op

Now all hunter needs is a minion that reduces cost of spells and some carddraw to make this deck viable. Oh wait, you cant play minions. ...

I’m honestly pretty fucking mad right now.

Pack it up boys, another expansion without Hunter.

I think there is more support for minionless hunter decks then people may think. Including the DK, which can generate infinite minions, I can think of 18 decent cards offhand (if 2 of each) that generate minions as spells.

Probably still a bad deck, but I think it has enough support to at least be fun.

Really want go make this deck...

But god damn glorious dusts...

So Priest uses their new epic removal and your whole deck that was already bad is now worthless. Wow thx Blizz

More RNG yay.... more antilogic

To my sides should of been 5 mana and this legendary weapon 6 mana. Then we may have something decent brewing here, but as of now I can’t see this deck being effective. Maybe in the future if we have a card that says reduce cost of all spells in your hand and deck by 1 if you have no minions in your deck, then that’s a game changer and a very exciting deck here.

At best these cards will be in a lock and load deck in wild

nice.. so I can still play Yogg in the deck.

Having this as a finisher in some sort of hunter deck built around recruiting or just blasting our your minions quickly would be kinda cool

Why is this not a 4 mana 4/2? It'd at least see play then.

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Just wow.. Blizzard is scared as fuck of giving Hunter decent cards. Hunter must shit on new players..

Is this the card they were hinting at that would make To My Side viable? Because if so I would say massive face palms are deserved all around,

That's so fucking bad. Blizzard, why ?

Although the cards for No Minion Hunter are pretty subpar so far the concept of an archetype where you have no minions in your deck is very interesting and I hope it leads to Hunter getting better spells to support it in the future.

IMO i think it's actually pretty good!

I can totally see this with To My Side/Emerald Spellstone in the Barnes/Y'Shaarj deck

I honestly think people are sleeping on this, there are still many more unreleased Hunter cards, maybe there will be more support for that archetype

What in the fuck... So they're intentionally trying to make Hunter play decks where they don't use half the cards they print?? This is such a polarizing concept, how can these cards be good for diversity or Hunter in the long run??

Jesus fucking christ why

At least i can disenchant it for dust...

Ugh, I need a new class...

Ok - seriously - what would this decklist look like?

Obviously, this weapon, 2x Animal Companion, 2x To My Side and 2x Call of the Wild.

Then what? Secrets? Weapons? No taunt, silence, ooze?

Am I the only one excited for a new Hunter archtype

They could have made litterally ANYTHING else, like:

-Battlecry: adapt your beasts ( i thought about that in 1 second)

-Anything related to deathrattle minions

OMG are we serious? Mage can draw 3 cards per round, while all we get is a shit weapon with shit stats and a bunch of spells that suck because they are Hunter's.

In the meanwhile priest gets a board clear on turn 4 and blizzard will allow him to shit on our faces for 2 years straight, like they don't know how broken is DK priest

Since blizzard wants to kill definitively hunter, i'm just gonna play jade druid like any other kid in this game.

Blizz really went all in on the meme hunter.

This should have read " If your deck has no minions, fill your hand with hunter spells, they cost zero (0)."

Oh my God, Hunter spells are NOT good enough for this garbage.

Blizzard wanted to implement discard lock, it freakin sucked Blizzard wanted freeze sharman, never see play Blizzard wants no minion hunter, it.................

If the Hunter class had cards that you'd expect to see in a "Ranger class," no minion support would be better. But Hunter has been built as a beast minion only class. The spells are inefficient and generally bad.

This card is embarrassing and Blizzard should feel bad about trying this new archetype with no spell support.

So instead of shit on a stick we get a pile of shit that was picked up In a plastic baggy.

lmao

So you sacrifice your entire deck for one weapon that gets oozed straight away

Hunter went from THEE midrange deck, composed of mostly minions.

To no minions, wtf.

Sooo, uhh, along with the request to not see "To My Side" in arena, can we request to not see this card as our free weapon reward?

Other than obviously just being odd, this seems really the opposite of what it should be in order to be useful...

If you've made an ENTIRE DECK OF SPELLS, do you really need a weapon that gives you (up to) 10 MORE SPELLS?

Wouldn't this be exponentially more powerful if is filled your hand with Beasts, or at least just Hunter Minions? It still wouldn't impact the "No Minions in You Deck" requirement, and would give you something other than what your deck is already filled with..

This has to be a joke, right? The real hunter weapon is comming at the end of the stream or something, right? There's no way this piece of shit card is real, no fucking say.

Honestly.. who runs minions in a hunter deck anyway??

Man, this is the only expansion Ive seen with such useless legendaries.

This needs to cost 4 mana and have an immune affect. And even then the deck will still be horrible.

unnerf yogg pls

lmao, nice job with the To My Side memes guys, keep it up; but seriously, I wonder what's the REAL hunter Legendary Weapon gonna look like, am I right?

No synergy like forced synergy!

Is this a joke? Please tell me it's a joke... :/

please dear lord all mighty god. don't give me this weapon please i swear to fucking god if i get this weapon i'm fucking killing you. just don't do it please I don't want this at all

I FUCKING CALLED IT! https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/7fewck/im_gonna_call_it_now_the_legendary_hunter_weapon/

Please down vote this garbage. Bad weapon.

The weapon is good if conditions are met, but just adding spells in your hand is not impactful enough to make the archetype viable.

Highlander decks have extreme conditions, but the rewards are useful and impactful enough to compensate. Also, adding only one copy of each minion is not hard compared to not playing any minions.

At least they could have given a less harsh condition. Something like a 12-mana "Costs (1) less for each spell you have played this game". It would give incentive to play a lot of spells while giving the deck a chance to play some minions, albeit only a few.

This is absurd. Complete failure to understand the game, and the state of the hunter class. I mean, as a mage weapon this might have worked, but hunter does not have enough good spells for this, nor is the pay-off good enough.

This is a Truesilver Champion bundled with way better Arcane Intellect and still /r/hearthstone does nothing but bitch.

I don't think that will be a thing this expansion, but maybe next one with slightly more support it can be decent

This archetype will 100% be a meta deck before the next expansion, GUARANTEED

Dafuq is this?! I can’t even commit sudoku with this!

Why not "If your deck has no minions, fill your hand with minions"? We already have enough spells in our minionless deck.

Blizzard... why are you pushing a “no minions” archetype on the one class that absolutely requires minions.

Just the card I needed for my midrange hunter deck that runs 24 minions.

at least let us take putricide

RNG heavy high roll card mostly for the memes. Not a consistent effect I was looking for.

Oh boy here we go

Fuck

God dammit, Blizzard.

The hunter will be shitty yet again. Sigh.

I'm skeptical of the viability of the archetype this is building, but I am also a little frustrated by people who so confidently and immediately dismiss it. I don't know how many times we have to be embarrassingly wrong about cards or archetypes before we gain some humility. And this doesn't mean Blizzard is perfect, it just means we aren't perfect, either, so let's just wait and see what happens.

Wow, at 6 mana this is unplayable. At 5 it's palatable. At 7 it's time to riot.

The real question with this weapon and the no-minion gimmick....why in hunter?

I actually have no problem with the idea of a new hunter condition for cards and not having any minions was interesting, but why are those cards this awfully costed? This is build your deck a certain way, wait till turn 7 (or until you will have drawn all minions, which will take a while, because Hunters have no draw) then equip a 4 attack weapon and better have an empty hand to gain random hunter spells. It is a legendary weapon with a huge deckbuilding restriction, but it won't actually win you the game, because Hunter spells right now are very risky. It could have been this exact card, without the deckbuilding restriction, it could have been a different effect like "Whenever your hero attacks fill your hand will hunter spells". Random Hunter spells wouldn't break Hunter right now. This feels very underwhelming for a legendary weapon. This isn't feeling powerful, this is measly, it isn't even actually meme-y.

There are some spells which will be straight up useless, like any handbuff spell, Infest, Stampede,Bestial Wrath, Dinomancy (especially because your hero power will be your win condition), some spells with mediocre uses like most of the shots and some secrets (just not the handbuff one, snake trap or Venomstrike) and some of the spells will at least give you some board presence like the Spellstone or Animal Companion.

I might test it a bit in wild, if I get the misfortune of opening it, in some lock and load builds. Lock and Load without Yogg isn't all that fun, though.

Gonna be funny when your cards you draw all require friendly minions to target and your call of the mildbois don't stick.

Well, another 4 months without playing hunter.

400 dust never looked so good

You know what, fuck it, I'm gonna go all in on this. Hunter is my favourite class because I love dropping minions, buffing them, trading, getting dinosaurs. I already decided not to preorder so might as well craft this forced archetype deck to finally kill this game for me.

Rok'delar in vanilla WoW: Iconic Hunter weapon. One of the best bows at the time.

Rok'delar in Hearthstone: Meme card.

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Okay, I'll say it. I like this card. i think filling your hand up with 10 spells could be very powerful in a casual setting. My main grip is that you can't also use Yogg reliably

7 MANA COST!

Hear me out. Only use minions 3 cost or less. Hemet on curve to turn on this and To my Side

oh my fucking god just...why blizzard...

When this was revealed on stream, twitch chat just screamed

D U S T !

For like 2 minutes.

I don't know what's a meme and what's real anymore :(

Now hold up for just a second

t1: on the hunt

t2: wandering monster

t3: animal companion

t4: flanking strike

t5: emerald spellstone

t6: to my side

t7: Rhok'delar

WE WERE SO BLIND, THE ANSWER WAS IN FRONT OF US FROM THE BEGGINING

SHIT HUNTER NO MINIONS IS GOING TO BE AN ARCHTYPE. CRAP! I WANTED ANOTHER SECRET SYNERGY BOW

Okay, I like the idea that this is a non-competitive gimmick deck not to be taken seriously. (But can be lots of fun regardless)

But the dust cost is not in line with its non-competitive status. Especially when all of the quests and ladder rewards you specifically for winning.

That's fine to have these off-meta fun decks, it's not fine to make them so insanely expensive as to price them out of the market. Are they really expecting people to craft 1 legendary, 2 epics, and other very specific non-flexible cards just to try out a deck which may ultimately fail them?

At least hunter us still a cheapish deck.

At least hunter us still a cheapish deck.

At least hunter us still a cheapish deck.

So, everyone is still shitting on spell hunter... Alright. I'm sure the community will act like this week didn't happen when it's a T2+ deck

B-b-but, you're and is already filled with spells if you have no minions.