Karazhan Updated Secret Cheat Sheet
๐๏ธ DaVirus ยท 272 points ยท Posted at 18:34:14 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people requested me to do this again, I deliver.
The wild secrets are marked with the appropriate symbol, but saw no need in marking the standard ones, seeing that the symbol will change in time.
Anyway, here it is
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Tylanos ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 19:23:28 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Beautiful and useless discovery :
Mage : 2 epic, 3 rares
Hunter : 1 epic, 2 rares
Paladin : 0 epic, 1 rare
Patatokeftes ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:56:53 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
formula:
R=secretcost
E=secretcost-1
L=secretcost-2? Mage will get a legendary secret confirmed
SquareOfHealing ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:53:13 on August 31, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or:
3 classes with secrets, 3 mage rare secrets, that cost 3 mana, 3 non-common hunter secrets, 3 vowels in PALADIN = secret HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED.
fusselchen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:41:31 on September 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bear Trap summons a 3/3. Spellbender has 3 HP. Avenge grants +3 attack. Noble Sacrifice has a total of 3 stat points. Snake Trap summons 3 1/1s. Sacred Trial triggers when 3 minions are on the board.
Fucking confirmed!
FliccC ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 01:09:11 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
3 Mana, when an enemy plays the minion with highest cost in the deck, transform it into a sheep.
KrabbyEUW ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:01:09 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what about:
Arcanify:
Attack: 1
Mana: 3
Class: mage
card sort : spell
Description:
Every time the enemy plays a minion give this secret 1 attack (only visible to the mage) if the enemy plays a spell this secret triggers, summoning a 2 drop for each attack this spell has.
79rettuc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:45 on September 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Maybe if it started at 0 or just played 1 drops
EDIT: Actually what if it played x number of x cost minions where x started at 0? e.g. zoolock plays 3 one drops and then overwhelming power. You get 3 random 3 cost minions
IfIRepliedYouAreDumb ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 19:17:19 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Speaking of secrets in Wild, I wanted to share a tip about secret tech.
I know Wild and Secret in the same sentence immediately brings up flashbacks of Secret Paladin, which is why I see so many people running Eater of Secrets.
However, in Wild, Kezan is the much better secret tech. Why?
3 classes use secrets, Mage, Hunter, and Paladin.
Against Tempo Mage, stealing a secret is a tempo swing that is game-winning by itself, because not only did they lose their secret, they still have to play around it.
The same goes for Hunter, having to play around Explosive Trap/Freezing Trap/Snipe ruins Hunter's gameplan and basically buys you 1-3 turns of uncontrolled aggression.
Freeze Mage is the same, not only do you remove their block, now they have to pop your block once before they can lethal you.
Against all these classes, a 4 mana 4/3 + a secret is much better than a 4 mana 3/5.
The only case where Eater is better is against Secret Paladin, but even so, Kezan sniping one of the Paladin's secrets ruins the combo, and gives you a fair chance at contesting the board post MC.
Not to mention, Eater doesn't even kill Shredder's first body, which is a huge downside in Wild.
I also see a lot more Tempo + Freeze + Hunter than I see of Secret Paladin, so I think that Kezan is the better tech in Wild.
Sorry for wall of text; TL DR: Use Kezan instead of Eater
Patatokeftes ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:53:14 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eater is better in slower decks, because enemy faces/mages will stockpile a bunch of secrets you won't pop. Plus the swing it provides against Cancerdin is sooooo much bigger, and MC will stomp you if you play Kezan and hope fort it being enough.
Vezachs ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:41:08 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You could also decide to play n'zoth priest, that way you wont even need to Tech In such cards.
IfIRepliedYouAreDumb ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:53:17 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tempo Mage, Freeze Mage, and Midrange Hunter are all favoured against N'Zoth Priest though...
buddyfellah ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:10:13 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, no need for techs because you are going to lose anyways. /s
winter477 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:40:46 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Priest is probably the strongest class in wild IMO since they have tons of good removal and ways of surviving...doesn't help that nzoth is pretty much an instant win if your opponent cant clear the board
Patatokeftes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:54:51 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YOU FACE JARAXXUS, EREDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION!
winter477 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:25:14 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If a priest were to face JARAXXUS, EREDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION, they had a combo with auchenai soul priest + flash heal + flash heal+ upgraded hero power + anything that deals 1 damage
Either way, renolock/handlock isnt a deck I see often in rank 5+, mostly zoo if it's a warlock
Patatokeftes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:21:09 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and what exactly does priest have that deals 1 damage and can consistantly get that way? Not to mention that is a 4-5 card combo to begin with, 2 of which are the same card. The chances you get the combo and I live+the chances you dont have that combo are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay higher than you having the full thing with an elver archer
AfraidOfBricks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:10:31 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
priest is good in wild but no where near the best. Paladin, warrior and hunter are all quite stronger while having more types of decks.
diphling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:59 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rank 5 and above is basically tempo hunters for days.
ArmySash ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:35:37 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plot Twist: You play secret Paladin in wild!
CreepyMosquitoEater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:03 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People tried kezan vs secret palladin meta though, and it didnt really yield results
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:04 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SlipperyRoo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:02:42 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spectacular!
Billybob47 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:10:36 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
By the Holy Light!
Scrimshank22 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:23:41 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your cheat sheets not much of a secret if you post it in reddit.
deviouskat89 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:22:24 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cool! This needs some love; putting it on the header.
MrDestructoid1 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:54:37 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
deviouskat89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:28 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fixed XD
๐๏ธ DaVirus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:28:12 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm moved :') I always do this after secrets are released, but it's the first time making an header :D
00gogo00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:15 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you fix the name?
deviouskat89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:27 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, oops.
racalavaca ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:30:10 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Been using hearthstone deck tracker, and the other day I got fucked because it still hasn't updated with cat trick so I forgot it existed, lol.
The worst part is I totally remembered it when game started, but using hdt to figure out secrets is just so ingrained in me right now that I instantly forgot it was a possibility when it didn't show up.
Darkbloomy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:55:37 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was playing the Hunter class challenge today and I saw Cat Trick and thought it was some special adventure card... lol
A-NI-MAL ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:40:38 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I miss Duplicate :(
Poroner ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:16:30 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
play... wild...? :D
blobblet ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:33:22 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For your next version, consider sorting them by activation condition (e.g. Explosive Trap net to Misdirection; maybe even across classes, like Repentance in the same column as Mirror Entity), or any other useful order instead of alphabetically.
Beatsters ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:56:14 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My thoughts as well. Knowing the triggers is especially important with Yogg, as it's not uncommon to face multiple secrets from different classes now. The categories as I see them:
Attack Face
Attack Anything
Attack Minion
Play Minion
Play Spell
Kill Enemy Minion
Misc
shentoza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:35 on September 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well... attack anything triggers Freezing only if you attack with a minion.
maxakusu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:42:26 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't realize only 2 secrets rotated out.
We'll lose Effigy, Bear Trap and Competitive Spirit during next rotation.
The secret meta isn't really going to get meaningfully different.
otterguy12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:55:19 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus Dart Trap and Sacred Trial. No one remembers Dart Trap :,(
maxakusu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:18:47 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh that's right. I keep forgetting that LoE will be rotating too. Doesn't change the conclusion though :P
Darkbloomy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:47 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want Secret Mage to be viable :(
mildlyfunnycommenter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:40 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is the point of this formatting?
AchedTeacher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:03:52 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone made a secret cheat sheet that shows you the actions of playing into cards? Like a flowchart?
borodean ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:42:35 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Here is one I've made for myself: https://redd.it/501puc
Clean and printer-friendly.
ColgateInUntap ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:04:33 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Overlining makes reading duplicate and avenge more difficult, perhaps bolding or underlining would be better effect to make distinction.
borodean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:52 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right. Made them lighter instead of overlining.
Darkbloomy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:19 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I miss duplicate. Control/Reno mage was so much fun to play.
Cubity_First ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:31 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you move the wild ones to the front or the back? It'll make it clear when reading and it won't be so messy having them randomly placed.
๐๏ธ DaVirus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:18 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I placed everything alphabetically. A lot of suggestions were given that I'll take in account next time around.
Cubity_First ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:11 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I didn't notice that. I guess it makes sense.
_Peavey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:41 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very nice, only one thing to point out:
Instead of pressing alphabetical order, you could put Wild secrets to the end of the row.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:51 on September 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't it weird that Uther says that he will fight with honor but he's one of the few classes that's not above using secrets?
Mapasm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:41 on September 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll just leave this here
BreastUsername ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:01 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks I need this.
Exceed_SC2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:47:02 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mods can someone fix the Notice at the top of the sub, it say "cheat cheat" instead of "cheat sheet"