Tired of playing against Zoolock? Maybe this clip will bring you a tiny bit of joy...

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ deakMatta ยท 3985 points ยท Posted at 14:42:12 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)


Zoo Retribution

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Tired of playing against zoolock in CASUAL mode, this felt reallllllllly good.

tafovov ยท 381 points ยท Posted at 16:17:36 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was a high apm concede right there.

Tavalus ยท 248 points ยท Posted at 20:17:09 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The rare time when the spinning wheel doesnt stop on Worthy Opponent but Starctaft Pro

Cogwork ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:44:59 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apm?

Cvein ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:00:45 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actions per minute.

Cogwork ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:12:39 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks

DNAwithin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:51 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha. Spot on.

[deleted] ยท 874 points ยท Posted at 15:47:55 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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DUCKSES ยท 228 points ยท Posted at 16:24:19 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

"[Do something] to [cards] in your deck" is actually applied when the card is drawn, not when it's in your deck. If you e.g. play a Mistcaller followed by a "fake-draw" effect like Varian Wrynn, King's Elekk or Tracking the card will be unaffected, i.e. they don't get Mistcaller's buff or the cost reduction from Renounce Darkness.

Joust effects likewise use the base cost of the card. Molten Giant wins all jousts (except against another Molten Giant) even if you're at 1hp and that Mysterious Challenger you got from Renounce Darkness will cost 6 instead of 5 until you draw it.

Blizzard ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

R3D1AL ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 17:18:27 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It kinda makes sense to do it that way for programming. No sense of emulating all the cards sitting in the deck - It's probably just an array with card ids and an RNG to "draw" the cards.

If they wanted to make joust cards reflect their cost then they could just run them through the same thing they do to convert them to your have before comparing them, but it seems they want joust to work off of base stats.

DUCKSES ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 17:49:07 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

It'd be consistent with your deck being "shuffled" every time a card is added into it. The simple approach is sensible and intuitive but has a glaring problem with pseudodraw effects, although it could be argued the pseudodraw effects are the actual problem. Tracking is a basic card but unless I'm mistaken on-draw effects weren't introduced until GvG (Flame Leviathan + Tracking) so obviously this isn't something the devs originally considered.

I guess rule of the thumb is "(pending) effects are applied only if the card is put straight into your hand". It's consistent with Flame Leviathan not triggering with a full hand and whatnot.

Khanstant ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:10:24 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is it weird to be bothered by a constantly shuffled deck. Obviously since you don't know what's coming next, you'd never be able to tell, and there aren't any effects to let you read what order your deck is in like in Magic. Still, how can one believe in the heart of the cards if the order of cards is always shifting?

Whooshless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:22 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Devs have confirmed that your deck is only shuffled when cards are inserted. Entomb, Gang Up, etc. If you play Novice Engineer and draw X, you would have gotten X next turn anyway without the NE.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:36:39 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It'd be quite easy to keep track of everything, really. Seems they just hadn't thought of all the strange effects they would later implement when they chose the data structure for the deck.

Murzac ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:46:35 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well really when you look at it all from the point where things were when HS came out, you really did not need to know anything more than the ID of the card that was drawn. Would make sense to simply have an array of card IDs. It's lighter on the memory and super fast to handle.

Mile_s ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:52:57 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Keeping a little state (attack, hp, mana cost) for less than 30 cards is completely negligible, both in terms of memory requirements and processing time.

They just made a design choice which forced them into workarounds for certain card effects.

program_the_world ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:32:24 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even if your deck was 4000 cards. Unless they were doing some really nasty stuff, an iteration through all cards a couple of times a turn will not be noticeable.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:31 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or they could have just handled the deck as an invisble hand of cards, so that things they do to the hand could apply to the deck as well when needed.

jrr6415sun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:35 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They have said they have the cards in order, but they most likely don't have a way to change the cards until it is drawn.

Sakuyalzayoi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:37:03 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hex actually does emulate all the cards in the deck. Because they've got entire archetypes that interact with the cards in your deck (i.e., next creature you draw gets "draw a card", and if you shuffle it back into your deck it'll still have it). Obviously hindsight is 20/20 here but it's probably better to design each card so that it's actually emulated as a card in your deck instead of the way it is now

Jelliefysh ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:02:19 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Adding to the obscure interactions, I was playing a rogue deck against a warlock and Burgled a Renounce Darkness. I thought for funsies I'd play it in hopes of getting a new hero power, but I rolled rogue. Oh well got to use my hero power twice in one turn, I guess that's good. To my surprise, next turn I drew fan of knives, but it only cost 2, so it's not drawing the changed cards, but drawing the class cards of your new class that triggers the reduction.

DUCKSES ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:51:09 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, Disguised Toast covered it here. I can't watch the clip now but IIRC he explains (or guesses at least) why this happens. It only occurs if you roll your current class, and probably if you Entomb or Gang Up a class card and then roll that class.

crazyjenius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:35 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Does a jousted C'thun always show up as 10 mana 6/6 regardless of your buffs for it?

Runefall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:58:17 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, because the buff is instantly applied to him

pldl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:42 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty sure they fixed Varian Wrynn, at least with Renounce Darkness.

themootilatr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:33 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cool...he was making a joke lol

Terakahn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:37 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Evolve works that way too right?

DUCKSES ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:50 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you mean using the base cost instead of one reduced by e.g. Thaurissan yes. Nerubian Prophet has a base cost of 6 so even if you play it for free Evolve will still turn it into a 7-mana minion. This applies for all transformation effects that use the minion's mana cost.

Summoning Stone behaves similarly but it uses the spell's current cost instead of base cost. If Thaurissan or Millhouse lowers your Pyroblast to 0 mana Summoning Stone will poop out a Wisp or Tinyfin.

kynlais ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:48 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Molten Giant wins all jousts (except against another Molten Giant)

In which case Molten Giant then wins.

asdfghjkl92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:56 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

so can the 'fake draw' effects still give you warlock cards?

DUCKSES ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:11:04 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Short answer: no, Renounce Darkness is the exception and changes the cards while they're still in your deck. The changed cards however only contain the ID of the card and the discount is applied elsewhere, fake-draws skip this discount. I originally wrote an excessively technical and detailed reply on why Renounce Darkness being an exception makes sense from a programming point of view but uh, you just have to trust me that it does.

Apart from the fact Mistcaller, Renounce Darkness etc. didn't exist in Classic the one thing that doesn't make sense is why exactly fake-draws behave this way. My guess? Tracking was originally jury-rigged in a bizarre but working (this is woefully common in programming) way and all the other stuff just reuses its code.

Perago_Wex ยท 386 points ยท Posted at 15:57:29 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

vintage mm watcha say still gets me

fuck

ashanev ยท 185 points ยท Posted at 18:57:22 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That one SNL skit always did it for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmd1qMN5Yo0

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absolutezero132 ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 19:59:40 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 21:29:23 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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420shibe ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 22:58:45 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the reason its been parodied extensively

[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:06:51 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not even ashamed. I loved that show. Mainly for Seth and his dad though.

MrBaz ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:21:19 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sandy's eyebrows were my favourite character.

unkind_throwaway ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:48:46 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I realize asking you might be weird....but was the music really that loud in the original? Like, it wasn't a subtle background gap filler, but an in your face music chorus as loud or louder than the actual dialogue in the show people were watching?

Because if so, that's pretty terrible :-\

d2cole ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:01:44 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A big part of the OC was its music, so it got the focus of a bunch of scenes.

absolutezero132 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:50:11 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I honestly don't know, I didn't watch the show. Just linked it because it's the only relevant scene and the guy said he didn't understand.

Kitchenfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:20 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So that's how Jim Gordon left the OC and came to Gotham.

Xaevier ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:40:17 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't even know there was OC and I still always thought the SNL skit was hilarious (even though it made no real sense)

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:56:53 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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mileylols ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:32:30 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So what you are saying is.. the OC is the OC?

icepickjones ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:47:37 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, that's what set the "mmmwhatyasay" meme off.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:33:49 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha, after hearing that song I had to watch this video.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:57 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

fuckin agreed. I forgot how much I loved this cause I haven't seen it in so long

Canukian84 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:46 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Love dat song in vids

[deleted] ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 15:28:27 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tears of joy.

echolog ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 15:42:57 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL

[deleted] ยท -28 points ยท Posted at 18:07:08 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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professorx12 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:36:42 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How do you know he isn't the one playing renounce darkness?

fuck_the_haters_ ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:40:35 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cause if he was a renounced warlock his flair would be anything but warlock.

professorx12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:19 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

touche

echolog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:10 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey man I got my ranks with Malylock before Standard started. I should probably update my flair tho I don't play much Warlock anymore.

gronmin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:03 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

idk that would be like me changing my flair even though I have been playing mid range shaman since day 1 of hearthstone. Even if I played very little of it after gvg.

hpgriezy ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 16:23:20 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Magiclad ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:23:05 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nosferobots ยท 250 points ยท Posted at 15:43:03 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That song somehow made it even better.

banebot ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 16:55:26 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was so appropriate

Tarnwyn ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:35:41 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha the song and the slow mo were epic af. Best part of the clip. And the deal-with-it-glasses on the mage card. 8/8

GlassedSilver ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:59:10 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, made me start playing it in iTunes. :D

AngryBeaverEU ยท -137 points ยท Posted at 16:10:04 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Disagree - i found it really annoying. I definitely would have preferred to hear what the guy was saying over this generic, overused meme of a song...

nosferobots ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 17:03:38 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

maybe it's nostalgia. haven't heard that song since high school like 10 years ago

tombradyislord ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:16:48 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not even in the SNL sketch they did a few years back?

Teddy_Treebark ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 17:28:22 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was about 10 years ago, was it not?

Edit Just checked. Aired in April of 2007. So almost 10 years but not quite.

nosferobots ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:48:42 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The song "Hide and Seek" by Imogen Heap (that "Whatcha Say" was based on) was released in 2005. This is the version I was referring to. Didn't know they remixed it!

froggerk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:43 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait fuck 2007 is already almost 10 years ago

Where has the time gone?

cwagz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:09 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty sure that sketch is almost 10 years old.

nosferobots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:33 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How had I never seen this?! Shame on me.

pixelTirpitz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:38 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

8 years not 10, but close enough.

SexualPie ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:31:49 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hear it a lot in youtube videos these days. And i've never heard it once on the radio or anything. i agree its overplayed these days.

that said i'm not as angry as that beaver.

MQ2000 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:27:21 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I didn't like the editing so much, especially with the repeating song. Otherwise a good clip though.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:11:32 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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AngryBeaverEU ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:54 on May 30, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Funny thing is - i can't even remember to ever have so many downvotes on a comment. And that just because i said that i don't like this song and it is overused? Whoa, Reddit, calm down with the pitchforks...

(... and no, i don't delete the comment just because it has so many downvotes. It is my honest opinion and if people feel that they need to downvote it - well, so be it...)

Still a little bit sad that the average racist comment doesn't get as many downvotes as a honest opinion about a song in a youtube clip... well, talking about setting priorities i guess...

1ceydefeat ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 17:34:05 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must be a lot of fun at parties

xipheon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:32:09 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must be the guy who has so much fun at parties he pukes on everyone and yells they aren't having enough fun.

1ceydefeat ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 18:36:25 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well I don't drink much so no

xipheon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:40:15 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pointing out how stupid that phrase is. Pointing out how annoying something is, something that ruins fun, is the opposite of not being fun at parties.

This song and people who use that phrase remind me of the guys at parties who are so annoying and loud and having fun at other people's expense, then get mad when someone calls them out.

harrywise64 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:18 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This song does? In what way?

xipheon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:00:26 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

After the SNL sketch, it became overused and as annoying (to me) as the John Cena meme.

But you're right, I have no idea why I added "This song" to the beginning of that sentence. It had nothing to do with the "fun at parties" rant.

1ceydefeat ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 18:47:23 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some people just are tools you know?

karossii ยท -42 points ยท Posted at 19:58:20 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, no. Had to mute it when that popped up.

nosferobots ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:29:26 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cool story

FustyDavorite ยท 210 points ยท Posted at 15:36:15 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

If that was on NA casuals then I was that zoolock! I was pretty salty afterwards but ultimately I just wanted a quest for an arena run and I did not care to see that through.

EDIT: Myself and the uninspired Zoo list in question. http://imgur.com/RK3eAnn

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ deakMatta ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 15:47:11 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

holy shit Fusty right?! Sorry to put you on reddit man!

FustyDavorite ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 15:48:36 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's me! Don't mind, it's actually pretty cool to myself here. I'll get some proof up in a second.

Greensburg ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 17:18:55 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not that big of a deal, we believe you man xD.

Redemolf ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 16:07:22 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Naxx cardback?

FustyDavorite ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:09:10 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, do you want to see that I have it for further proof?

NotClever ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:43:59 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was gonna say, I've had my forbidden tentacles cleared loads of times. It does suck, but that's the primary weakness of the deck (1 and 2 damage sweeps kill your dudes). It's also built so you can come back from that.

sanglar03 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 15:47:32 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's also built so you can come back from that.

That is the real nightmare of zoolocks ... cleaning the board, once, twice, and they can still manage to beat you.

[deleted] ยท 187 points ยท Posted at 16:19:27 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sometimes I wipe, and I wipe and wipe. Still board, still board.

Gamestoreguy ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 17:32:58 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's like I'm wiping with a 0 DMG wrath or something.

butt_fun ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:46:48 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Arfbark ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:16:57 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This never gets old

sanglar03 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:23:40 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Touchรฉ.

NotClever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:50 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I admit I feel a bit dirty when someone clears and I drop councilman and more tentacles, they kill the councilman, I drop an alpha wolf and a 3 mana sea giant, maybe trade my new 2/1 tentacles into any threats, maybe use an Argus to put up two taunts, knowing I have 2 POs to get lethal with any minion left on the board next turn.

sanglar03 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:46:50 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And yet, I can't objectively find a card so OP in zoolock it would need a nerf ... except the hero power, since ever.

NotClever ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:07:32 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I enjoy playing zoo because it's just a bunch of well synergized options. There's no one OP win condition, but instead several synergistic combos. That does make it a bit depressing to play against, when you feel like no matter what you kill everything else is just as much a threat.

Synaptics ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:56:00 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really? 'Cause Councilman is some fucking primo OP bullshit.

BeefPorkChicken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:43 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The only deck I hate is patron because it feels like they have infinite whirlwinds.

MAXSR388 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:51:31 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Forbidden Tentacles are what wins Zoo so many games. When your opponent AoEs that one card, you are in great position.

Fehyt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:54 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you believe me if i tell you that i win a match as zoolock after 2 flamestrike

NotClever ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:22:52 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely. By turn 6 (if he had coin) I've usually done plenty of damage to face. Possibly even enough that a charge (doomguard or leeroy) with one or two power overwhelmings could finish the job.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:31 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It wasn't you. Stop trying to low road some reddit celebrity status. Anyone can throw up a pic of a basic zoo deck and change their battle.net name to whatever.

Alejandro_404 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:26:48 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would have destroyed my computer on the spot.

Monandobo ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 17:04:04 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

By far the best part of this video is watching his expressions in the corner while everything goes down and the music is playing.

idonot ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:02:45 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He even got fooled by the 3 cost you can see it for a split second!

utterscrub ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 16:53:04 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pass me me the mmmmwhatyasaaay

fechan ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:25:23 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pass me the Arclight Spanner! - Can I light your fire?

It fits. This is so poetic. I love it.

cooldown- ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:16:09 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really good editing! It is just right. Not overdone.

archontruth ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 17:14:44 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the one hand, I usually lose to the zoolocks with my dragon priest.

On the other hand, when the stars line up and I survive long enough to crush the little fucker? Best feeling in the world. "Yeah, that's my Ysera hitting the board. Go ahead, remove it. I'm sure a power overwhelming on that Possessed Villager is totally going to get the job done. Bitch."

drketchup ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:53:12 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. Just won with one yesterday cleared with holy nova (a second time) at 1 hp and got board control, he couldn't finish me. Must've been pretty salty.

lopegbg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:59 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why do you run holy Nova over ee?

Lemondovsky ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:32:25 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I assume because dragon priest is a proactive deck and nova is much better when you have board + doesn't give them a clear for later + synergistic with azure drake too

drketchup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:35 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Idk I just find it more versatile. EE nukes your own minions too so it's not nearly as good if you have a board, plus I like the healing from nova and it can draw cards if you have cleric up. And it doesn't give your opponent a free removal.

EE is certainly better in some situations but whenever I've used it I often found myself wishing I had nova instead.

Im-in-line ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:47 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Try putting in a ton of AoE in exchange for some of the greedier aspects of the deck. I'm running the Trump's dragon N'Zoth priest with less minions for Nova, Horror, double evil, and an infested tauren. It isn't as strong in some control matchups, but aggro can never make it through, since you no longer need to save your AoE.

Zeidiz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:45:07 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a filthy zoo lock player for this season and yesterday I faced a priest that had used an excavated evil and a holy nova. I thought I had this in the bag. At most he'd have one more holy nova, but its all good most my minions on board are above 2 health. The guy thought steals and gets excavated evil out of my deck. I couldn't even be mad at that point.

Yapshoo ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:19:12 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's why i play alchemist in my list ;)

archontruth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:30:27 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They usually use it on one of my doomsayers long before Ysera becomes a possibility.

Yapshoo ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:04:43 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I usually have board vs priest to just kill the doomsayer, but i will admit i have alchemist my fair share too.

IAmA_Zeus_AMA ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 19:13:02 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whaitiri ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:41:18 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

WhatYaSay

JackRabbit- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:07:23 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

new twitch emote

MatterStorm ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:12:29 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was an emotional rollercoaster but the payoff was worth everything and much more

suleszilard ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:09:28 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i'm already tilted when queuing up against zoo. felt good to watch

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:29:39 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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buttcheeksontoast ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:58:41 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Turn 3; "huhuhuhu"

triggers a couple deathrattles, oh look a turn 3 4/5

Rnorman3 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:44:44 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The Imogen heap really put it over the top.

killerfrikis ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:34:44 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

FeelsGoodMan

ikefalcon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:25:53 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is why I play Dark Iron Skulker.

LoompaOompa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:41 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Skulker is one of my favorite rogue cards. I feel like it's really underrated. Doesn't show up in many decks.

kolderbol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:03:15 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a really strong card but it doesn't vibe well in the miracle rogue variant win condition and playstyle. Usually the N'Zoth rogues run this card.

1ceydefeat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:28:00 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's games like this where the world seems alright.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:26:26 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am so erect right now

PYJX ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:53:04 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck Zoo.

Good job man

DeithWX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:54 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:24:05 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Can i light your fire?"

Thurwell ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:44:46 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be honest...no, I'm not. I don't think zoolock is that common right now. Strifecro commented in a vod last week he assumes high rank/legend warlocks are renolock and mulligans accordingly, because he doesn't think zoolock is as good.

Shaman however, if you want to complain about agro...

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:34:05 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

eh I'm in high legend and always play against zoolock.

Thurwell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:59 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I zoolocked to rank 5, but then I started fucking around and dropped to 7. While I was climbing I ran into mirrors, which are stupid. Game's decided on turn 3 or 4 when someone loses the board. But I haven't seen any in the last few days at 4-5.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:40 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've been playing fatigue warrior solely for all the shaman and zoo. had 70% WR from rank 5 to legend with it, the lack of death rattles is nice.

Thurwell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:43 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, zoo's sticky minions are basically possessed villager and imp gang boss now. I felt like every game was a gamble, if he draws a board clear I lose. Darkshire councilman is also a little bit of an exception because 5 health for 3 mana is hard to clear.

It's hard to say what my win rate was vs warrior. There's a lot of viable warrior decks which have a lot of overlap, so I often wasn't sure what I'd just faced.

Malphos101 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:09:27 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this is reddit, where everyone else is playing cancer and your deck is the only one that requires skill.

LetoFeydThufirSiona ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:06:31 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

your deck is the only one that requires skill.

Especially that one where you put in a bunch of class cards and then hope for all them to replaced with random ones from another class to be played at discount.

DrNerfarious ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:36 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Rank 18 (but decent player, just doesn't ladder) friend said I only got legend because I played zoo. I said go play zoo and show me how easy it is, first game he plays DWA on the left of his only other minion with ritual in hand :3

PaxSicarius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:08:33 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The last dozen or so decks I've played against were some sort of aggro, either shaman or zoolock. I guess I understand the anecdotal evidence, but I'm experiencing the exact opposite.

HockeyFightsMumps ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:16 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That brought me way more than a tiny bit of joy

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:40:31 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Double finger point. On cue.

Rhacius_Ulairi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:44:43 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am jus tired of losing to mage

somabokforlag ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:38:25 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This song always makes me think of the SNL-classic Dear Sister

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmd1qMN5Yo0

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:57:58 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ou whatcha sayyy

RiceeHero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:02:25 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

gotta love renounce clips

henryauron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:36:02 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Amazing video. 10/10 - would show to kids before bed

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:36:08 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dank memes.

Juicebox008 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:14 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow...

SuspiciousDreams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:16 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That felt so good to watch. I have tingles.

preposterousdingle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:30 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can I light your fire?

ShiromeArtiste ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:21 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is the best feeling in the world. I just played a lock earlier who had 7 minions on the board by turn 4, and then I topdecked Lightning Storm

PM_ME_YOUR_GOATS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:45 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like renounce the darkness. It's a silly card, but it's pretty fun.

JackalRipper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:22 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Makes me smile every time.

Anknownlolz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:30 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was hoping for a legit deck against zoo with 100% win rate

DPSOnly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:31 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You see him almost having an orgasm. Perfect.

n4styn8or ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:50 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was a very dank clip, I thank you.

TheCleaverguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:55 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Realistically: Leeroy => power overwhelming => Power overwhelming => dead

cokeman5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:31 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I played renounce against a face hunter and got paladin. I healed for 32 hp that match but still lost. :(

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:43 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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foodRus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:16 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also I love in the beginning how you said you go straight to the catapult... so true. Do you stream or something? Between your commentary and facial expressions you seem awesome.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ deakMatta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:35 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh right to the catapult every damn time. I don't stream but was thinking about checking it out, at least to record games.

mdbellott ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:12 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What is the sound clip that plays when renounce darkness is drawn? I know it but can't put my finger on it :(

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jakemoney3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:56 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you so much.

noKeepo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:45 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
notcam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:02 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What does he say in the beginning? About the catapult

knaves ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:50 on May 30, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He doesn't look at any of the other scenery/manipulable stuff on the board but instead goes straight for the catapult.

notcam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:13 on May 30, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you. It was muffled up when I listened to it on the speakers..

nandihg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:06 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

While we're at it, this happened to me two days ago. I never even play zoo, I was just doing it for the dailies.

ShoutsWillEcho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:06 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was so wrong for so long...

Corpit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:19 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TOO LATE! YOUR TURN IS OVER!

AsterXks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:03 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate zoo. You made my day bro :)

Penzare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:58 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The music makes it so good.

odetowoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:49 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

casual, LOL

dougtulane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:30 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm tired of playing midrange Hunter, honestly.

SeamusD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:52 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think I felt a flutter in my chest watching this. 10/10

jenkomoot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:45 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Does anyone now which remix of Hide and seek that is? Losing my mind trying to find it...

leatyZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:03 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think I gotta watch this again, this is too good.

sirkaracho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:25 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

His face right before the focus goes on the card. :D

stephangb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:33 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Should've hero powered before renouncing.

AstroLord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:31 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You win...

This Time

thatguy2366 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:01 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm tired of playing C'thun decks.

ogmikewonder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:06 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MichaelDeucalion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:24 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I came

Khanstant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:35 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Man, that OC song still gets me every time.

phillipwei ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:06 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The editing on this put a banana grin on my face. Well done.

ooo_shiny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:00 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've recently been playing a combination zoo/renounce deck so (as in all the low cost warlock minions and spells with a few neutral buff/draw cards plus renounce), so I really love this clip as I've been on both sides of it.

Sbtl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:02 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did anyone notice how his clap lines up perfectly with the clap in the song at 1:03?

LastDance- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:24 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like chicken soup for the soul.

LastDance- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:26 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like chicken soup for the soul.

Fhskd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:12:00 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This just made my day.

PeterKush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:35 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was funny

Calphurnious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:00 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I play a priest deck when ever I am facing a zoolock. I've lost one out of 19 matches. It really destroys the Warlocks soul every time unless you have that one turn where you drew all the cards you didn't need. Like that one time I did out of 19 times.

Joemanji84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:32 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This made me really happy.

Ghenn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:19 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Looks like proof that the game is heavily rigged to me. Top decked the exact card he needed for that specific situation. The odds of what happening in that video must be staggering and yet stuff exactly like this happens daily for everyone.

Why would a benevolent company do such a thing? To force 'exciting' moments and exploit that dopamine release. The alternative is he gets sick of boring games and uninstalls.

/tinfoilhat

Jelleyicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:51 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll take zoo any day over patron warrior at it's peak, or face hunter. Despite what many people think, zoo actually requires a high amount of skill to play properly. Many small choices dictate the games outcome, and board control actually does matter.

Terroristy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:54 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nice, now do something with Shamans.

wx3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:06 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck the Colts?

I like the clip though, so u coo

guimontag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:13 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i have yet to play against zoolock this season, oh well

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:14 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not too thrilled with this. Just some real scummy RNG. The game is getting far too RNG focused with cards like Yogg who, in my opinion, completely break the game.

TTTrisss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:44 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, hey, look. That thing that happens to me every time I decide to play Zoo.

But I guess I deserve it for choosing a good deck, right?

makeswordcloudsagain ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:47:45 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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TheSuperWig ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:42:57 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Perfect song choice.

1ceydefeat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:18:19 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you stream? You remind me of Noxious.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ deakMatta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:17 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

it's the beard isn't it?

1ceydefeat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:55 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's certainly not the Colts banner

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ deakMatta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:32 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hey as long as we're not patriots fans amirite?

1ceydefeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:40 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

~J~

Lvl100Glurak ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:38:47 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this clip makes me salty. zoolock got cards that synergise with his gameplan..... meanwhile priest was left dying in a ditch

Ganan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:22:42 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Decklist?

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ deakMatta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:56 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

http://i.imgur.com/1i3tTuf.png

Cheap spells and class minions, card draw, and a bit of fun with Yogg and Elise.

Ganan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:31 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks!

bondkevin347 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:48:59 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yessss!! I was the 3000th up vote! Do I win an award?

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:32:22 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Stop upvoting this shameless self-promoting clickbait. This needs to be removed. Garbage content that happens all the fucking time.

DrNothing1 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:35 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This video has to be faked. The enemy didn't have knife juggler on the board before ritual.

Alejandro_404 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:17 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hearthstone: %100 Skill.

binky779 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 01:15:15 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have to be of sub-human intelligence to play Zoolock in casual. The games mean nothing and the deck requires no thought. Intellectually, its a half step above watching a flame.

Lanztar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:49 on May 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can I light your fire?

iuppi ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:15 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow Hearthstone is pretty RNG

SleeplessinOslo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:31 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like all card games, you need luck to draw the right cards. It's a fun game, but out of this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_eSports_games

It's easily the dumbest, least skill based game.

iuppi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:39 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was trolling on purpose, because unlinke most popular card games the amount of RNG in this game is yuuge. A lucky combo like this could be possible in let's say magic, but then usually it's already part of a strategy when the deck was planned. This is not planned, it's playing roulette and hoping to hit your number.

eletrix ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:34:51 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Music made me remember a sad O.C episode and now iยดm sad =( Screw you.

karossii ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:59 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That would have been awesome. If it weren't for the craptastic audio choice.

PM_ME_TRAP_NSFW ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 20:19:05 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

was that cancerous music actually necessary?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:19:53 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

mmmmm whatcha saaayy

PresidentSnow ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 18:39:34 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To the enemy warlock--I'm sure you will find this thread.

You are a cancer on this game. I am sorry your parents abused you and pushed you to play Zoolock.

VlermuisVermeulen ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 17:50:33 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What's the significance? Day in and day out ravaging ghoul has been doing the same thing to zoolock.

distilledwill ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:58:24 on May 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Perhaps the fact that he used renounce darkness, had to draw and then had just enough mana to play this one card. The significance is that series of events is reasonably unlikely